2008 Point & Laugh at the skins thread

Munson · January 09, 2008, 07:29:21 PM

Quote from: ice grillin you on January 09, 2008, 02:39:35 PM
he led the league in interceptions at the time of his death and was having a HOF type year...i dont see anything wrong with saying he was the third or fourth best safety in the nfl this past year...he certainly would have ended up one of the best had he not been died...

plus its not like theres lots of good safetys running around the nfl...hell dawkins made FIRST team last year and he only showed up for about a quarter of the season

Wow.

Father Demon · January 09, 2008, 07:42:05 PM

Quote from: ice grillin you on January 09, 2008, 02:39:35 PM
he led the league in interceptions at the time of his death and was having a HOF type year...i dont see anything wrong with saying he was the third or fourth best safety in the nfl this past year...he certainly would have ended up one of the best had he not been died...

plus its not like theres lots of good safetys running around the nfl...hell dawkins made FIRST team last year and he only showed up for about a quarter of the season

Well, he certainly intercepted that bullet.

Rome · January 09, 2008, 07:47:21 PM

Quote from: Father Demon on January 09, 2008, 07:42:05 PM
Well, he certainly intercepted that bullet.

You could say he dropped the ball in the end, though.

QB Eagles · January 09, 2008, 08:00:00 PM

There is exactly one safety in the Hall of Fame that has played since 1980. Sean Taylor was nowhere close to achieving, nor was he on track to achieve, what he would have needed to achieve to join Ronnie Lott.

rjs246 · January 09, 2008, 08:50:47 PM

But he was tall and liked to hit! Athletic! Stupid as a stump! Everything you look for in a hall of famer. Did I mention tall?

Zanshin · January 10, 2008, 02:01:48 PM

Tall, like Jon Harris tall?

Sgt PSN · January 10, 2008, 02:33:19 PM

No, like Ed "Too Tall" Jones tall. But more taller.

Butchers Bill · January 10, 2008, 06:01:17 PM

Quote from: ice grillin you on January 09, 2008, 02:39:35 PM
he led the league in interceptions at the time of his death and was having a HOF type year...

There is no such thing as a HOF type year. Otherwise, guys like Kurt Warner, Ickey Woods, and Jeff George would be headed for the hall.

Munson · January 10, 2008, 06:50:01 PM

Quote from: Butchers Bill on January 10, 2008, 06:01:17 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on January 09, 2008, 02:39:35 PM
he led the league in interceptions at the time of his death and was having a HOF type year...

There is no such thing as a HOF type year. Otherwise, guys like Kurt Warner, Ickey Woods, and Jeff George would be headed for the hall.

Or anyone who has a career year basically.
Like Jeremy Shockey.
Or Kevin Curtis.

Sgt PSN · January 11, 2008, 09:03:46 AM

Wrong again dumbass. A 1000 yard recieving year is not a "HOF type" year. That's not even a pro bowl type year. Just because it's a career best for Curtis does not mean that it's the type of production you'd expect out of a HOF'er from his position. And Curtis could have the next 10 seasons exactly like this one and it wouldn't get him any closer to the hall than he is now.

reese125 · January 11, 2008, 09:19:30 AM

QuoteAnd Curtis could have the next 10 seasons exactly like this one and it wouldn't get him any closer to the hall than he is now.

Steve Largent would disagree whole-heartedly

ice grillin you · January 11, 2008, 09:22:41 AM

steve largent had over 100 td's thats what got him in the hall of fame not 70 catches and 1100 yards

ice grillin you · January 11, 2008, 09:24:16 AM

not to mention 70 and 1100 meant a hell of a lot more back then than it does in todays nfl which is a pass happy offense first league

reese125 · January 11, 2008, 09:44:24 AM

Quotesteve largent had over 100 td's thats what got him in the hall of fame not 70 catches and 1100 yards

read what Sarge said again. He said over 10 more seasons. Who the hell cares what it meant back then or now..numbers are numbers regardless to any ballot

having over 80TD's and over 10,000+ yards is a hell of an achievement for any receiver and should get into the Hall with ease....and to to say otherwise is just being igy-ish

Sgt PSN · January 11, 2008, 09:45:29 AM

Steve Largent also played in a different era when teams didn't pass anywhere near as much as they do today. When you compare Largent's stats to other recievers during his time, yes, he was among the best in the game. Largent finished in the top 10 in receptions 9 times during his career and never once had more than 80 catches in a single season. 8 times during his career he ranked in the top 10 in recieving yards and never got more than 1300. 7 Pro bowl selections and 8 All Pro selections.

To compare, Kevin Curtis this year ranked 23rd in receptions with 77, 17th in yards with 1110, and 27th in TD receptions with 6. 0 Pro bowls and 0 All Pro selections.

When you're looking at HOF type #s, it's not soley about how they compare to previous greats, but how do they compare against their peers. Largent was clearly one of the best recievers in his time. Curtis is not.