2011 Philadelphia Phillies Season Thread (choking awful pos team, DIAF)

[ice grillin you]

but it'd be stupid to say that's the only option while dealing for a hitter would be useless.

are people actually saying this?

[PoopyfaceMcGee]

Rollins and Utley combined for 0-8. They're done.

[Dillen]

a bat would be nice but they certainly dont need one and they def dont need one as much as they need a lock down bullpen arm

adams would be a much bigger improvement over stutes or perez than a francouer would be over brown/mayberry...not to mention playoff pitching is much more likely to neutralize offense than playoff offense is likely to hit much vs playoff pitching

in the end the major players are going to have to come thru with clutch hits or they are going to lose anyway and jeff francouer josh willingham or melky cabrera arent going to change that

Don't take everything so literally, you're clearly saying a bullpen guy would be much more helpful than a hitter. I don't know why I even bothered

[PhillyPhreak54]

I agree with Dillen that only Beltran or Pence would be worth going after. However, if they get Pence then it could affect them re-signing Jimmy and they have to re-sign him. One of the writers was saying that this morning, about Pence getting an extension that would hurt the chances of bringing Rollins back.

I do not want to give up HOF. They have to find a way to get a deal done without letting him go.

[BigEd76]

In a span of 3 pitches, Martinez bunted one into the Padres dugout trying to sacrifice, a wild pitch goes past him anyway, then he crushed one a few rows back in right.

for J and Todd

[PhillyPhreak54]

Motherfargin Mike Mike!

[ice grillin you]

a bat would be nice but they certainly dont need one and they def dont need one as much as they need a lock down bullpen arm

adams would be a much bigger improvement over stutes or perez than a francouer would be over brown/mayberry...not to mention playoff pitching is much more likely to neutralize offense than playoff offense is likely to hit much vs playoff pitching

in the end the major players are going to have to come thru with clutch hits or they are going to lose anyway and jeff francouer josh willingham or melky cabrera arent going to change that

Don't take everything so literally, you're clearly saying a bullpen guy would be much more helpful than a hitter. I don't know why I even bothered

yeah i clearly did say that...but better option and "only" option are so far apart its not even funny...and for good measure you threw in the word useless

but it'd be stupid to say that's the only option while dealing for a hitter would be useless.

are people actually saying this?

[Dillen]

I'll make sure my posts can only be interpreted one way from here on out

[ice grillin you]

thanks chief

[MDS]

I agree with Dillen that only Beltran or Pence would be worth going after. However, if they get Pence then it could affect them re-signing Jimmy and they have to re-sign him. One of the writers was saying that this morning, about Pence getting an extension that would hurt the chances of bringing Rollins back.

I do not want to give up HOF. They have to find a way to get a deal done without letting him go.

pence can take over for ibanez's money. you also have lidge coming off the books.

rollins i cant imagine is going to get an increase, here or anywhere.

[Rome]

The Phillies have more than enough to get a legit bat & a good bullpen arm.  Would they have to raid the system to do it?  Yeah, probably.  But aren't you guys always the ones who insist the window is just about shut for this team?  If it's just about over for the "core" why not say farg it and just go for it balls to the wall?

[SD]

I was just listening to 97.5 on the way to pick up my pizza and they were saying the Mets want HOF AND Cosart for Beltran. OUT. I'd consider it for Pence.

[Rome]

That's hilarious if true.  Jesus Christ - what the farg are the Mets smoking?

[PoopyfaceMcGee]

Exactly what I said a few pages ago.. The Mets will charge the Phillies too much for Beltran, especially if they pay his salary. No way a deal that benefits the Phils can be made.

[Eagles_Legendz]

I don't do that for Pence and I laugh before the Mets even finish the sentence if they're asking for that for Beltran.  I don't believe it though.  There is 0 way I trade Brown for 3 months of Beltran let alone Brown AND Cosart.  I don't even trade Cosart in a deal for Beltran.  Worley + a third tier prospect, for 2 second tier guys like Colvin/May is where I'd go and I don't think the Mets get better than that.