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QuoteDan Snyder said Tuesday that he's matured as an owner, acknowledged he has made personnel mistakes and said that although he pays the players, ultimately the Washington taterskins are "the fans' team."

Snyder was speaking at a summit for owners of Washington-area sports teams, hosted by The Washington Post.
Snyder, who bought the team at age 34 and is now 46, said he has learned to put his trust in the right people.

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taterskins owner Dan Snyder seeks dismissal of City Paper writer

By Paul Farhi
Washington Post Staff Writer
Tuesday, February 1, 2011; 9:47 PM

There's no question taterskins owner Dan Snyder had a few problems with a cover story about him in Washington's City Paper in November.

At the moment, in fact, Snyder is fighting mad.

Snyder has objected to the article that detailed some of his controversial actions as team owner and other reports about him in the weekly publication, and has threatened legal action against the newspaper. He also is seeking the dismissal of the article's author, staff writer Dave McKenna.

Snyder took his complaints about the Nov. 19 article to Creative Loafing Inc., the Tampa-based company that owns City Paper and five other "alternative" papers around the country, and to CLI's parent, Atalaya Capital Management, a New York-based hedge fund. Atalaya bought CLI for $5 million in a bankruptcy proceeding in August 2009.

In a letter sent to City Paper's owners after the article's publication, taterskins chief operating officer David Donovan alleged that Snyder had been defamed by the publication and that legal action was an option. To date, however, no lawsuit has been filed.

The article, entitled "The Cranky taterskins Fan's Guide to Dan Snyder," detailed dozens of Snyder's actions as team owner and businessman. It recounted such episodes as the controversy surrounding the removal of trees on land adjacent to Snyder's home near the Potomac River and his raising of parking and ticket prices at FedEx Field, the taterskins' home.

The article was accompanied by a clearly doctored photo of Snyder with horns and facial hair. It drew hundreds of comments on City Paper's Web site, almost all of them praising McKenna and condemning Snyder.

McKenna has written critically about Snyder's ownership of the team for years, and has broken a number of stories that have painted Snyder in unflattering terms. McKenna has also freelanced music reviews and other stories to The Post's Style section for several years.

He had no comment when contacted Tuesday; he referred calls to Amy Austin, City Paper's publisher.

Austin, in an interview, stood by McKenna's work, calling his Nov. 19 story "very, very solid. . . . If there was something to correct, we would have corrected it." She added, "Dave is a stellar reporter. He provides original and well-reported content for us every week."

Austin said she couldn't comment on Snyder's objections because the team owner hasn't spoken with anyone at her publication. She referred questions to Marty Petty, chief executive of Creative Loafing. Petty did not return calls seeking comment.

Snyder has never sued a media organization for something aired or printed, according to Patty Glaser, one of his lawyers. But Glaser said Tuesday that a lawsuit is being prepared. Defending such a suit can be an expensive proposition for a media organization.

"We have been pushed in this direction, in our view," said Glaser, a well-known litigator based in Los Angeles who represented Conan O'Brien in his negotiations to leave NBC last year. "It's something we tried to avoid. We feel they have published untruths" about Snyder. She declined to describe Snyder's objections or to detail factual errors allegedly published by City Paper.

According to several people with direct knowledge of the situation, Snyder's attorneys contacted The Post last week and asked the newspaper to preserve e-mails between Post sports blogger Dan Steinberg and McKenna.

The attorneys said they intend to explore whether there was any agreement between McKenna and Steinberg to cross-promote McKenna's pieces on Snyder. Steinberg routinely links to sports content across the Web.

McKenna and Steinberg are former neighbors and longtime friends, a fact disclosed by Steinberg when he linked to McKenna's City Paper article on Steinberg's D.C. Sports Bog blog in November. At the time, Steinberg called McKenna's article "an encyclopedic takedown of Snyder's decade of taterskins ownership, with just about all the horror stories gathered in one place."

McKenna, in turn, occasionally mentions Steinberg's work in his City Paper columns and blog postings, referring to him as "the Great Dan Steinberg."

Steinberg declined to comment Tuesday, as did The Post.

Quote from: Seabiscuit36 on February 02, 2011, 01:27:28 PM
For a guy who was so successful at a young age, its crazy how stupid he is handling this shtein. 

Quote from: ice grillin you on February 02, 2011, 01:33:15 PM
btw here is the fan guide for those who havent seen it...its pure gold


http://www.washingtoncitypaper.com/articles/40063/the-cranky-taterskins-fans-guide-to-dan-snyder/

QuoteIn an initial public offering for SNC in September 1996, Daniel Snyder became the youngest ever CEO of a New York Stock Exchange listed company at the age of 32.

He expanded the company aggressively through a string of acquisitions, and in April 2000, Snyder Communications was sold to the French advertising and marketing services group Havas in an all-stock transaction valued at in excess of US$2 billion, the largest transaction in the history of the advertising/market industry.

Quote from: ice grillin you on February 02, 2011, 01:33:15 PM
btw here is the fan guide for those who havent seen it...its pure gold


http://www.washingtoncitypaper.com/articles/40063/the-cranky-taterskins-fans-guide-to-dan-snyder/

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NEW YORK -- Washington taterskins owner Daniel Snyder has sued Washington City Paper over a column he says defamed him and had anti-Semitic references.

Snyder filed the lawsuit against the weekly paper and its parent company, Atalaya Capital management LP, in New York State Supreme Court on Wednesday. The suit seeks at least $1 million in damages for each of the two causes of action, plus punitive damages.

The cover story entitled "The Crazy taterskins Fan's Guide to Dan Snyder," has an altered photo of the owner with horns and a beard drawn in pen. The suit claims the weekly newspaper used "lies, half-truths, innuendo and anti-Semitic imagery to smear, malign, defame and slander" Snyder.

The suit also says the newspaper reported Snyder engaged in criminal conduct by "forging names."

Telephone calls to the paper Wednesday night were not immediately returned, but publisher Amy Austin, in a letter to readers posted earlier Wednesday said, "We believe we have the facts right."

In a post on the City Paper's website Wednesday, managing editor Mike Madden asserted the image "is meant to resemble the type of scribbling that teenagers everywhere have been using to deface photos for years," he wrote. "The image of Snyder doesn't look like an 'anti-Semitic caricature' -- it looks like a devil."

Snyder will contribute any monetary damages received to groups that assist the homeless, the lawsuit said."

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By unkindly focusing only on the negative aspect of your ownership, the author, Dave McKenna, is suggesting that you are an avaricious, imperious, conscienceless plutocrat with callous contempt for the fans; a man whose Napoleonic, pouter-pigeon swagger conceals a doofus-like understanding of the game and whose pernicious, autocratic meddling has consigned the team to perpetual mediocrity and its players and coaches to a perennial state of harrowing anxiety, all of this starting virtually from the moment you arrived and continuing to this very minute.

QuoteMemo to Dan Snyder: Thank you for your stewardship of the taterskins
 
   
By Gene Weingarten
Thursday, February 3, 2011; 12:00 AM

To: Daniel Snyder, owner, Washington taterskins



I just want you to know you have my full support in this matter, as I support everything you have done during your stewardship of the taterskins. You rock. I wish you good health and long life and hope you run the franchise for many, many years to come. I say this with utmost sincerity as a lifelong fan of the New York Giants.

.......The point I want to make - and I think I can speak not only for myself but for all Giants fans - is that you have been very, very good to us, and we appreciate it. It's not easy being an ardent supporter of a football team. In this sport, the cliche is mostly true: On any given Sunday, any team can defeat any other team. Such is the nature of this game, which is so often influenced by injuries and so often subject to the effects of intangibles like momentum. This keeps the devoted fan in a constant state of stress. You can't take any win for granted.

But thanks to you, twice a season we can. Nothing is certain, of course, but when a taterskins game approaches, we at least know that we will be facing a team in spiritual disarray, whose players have been assembled largely by whim and impulse and ego, coached by a person as insecure as a teenage girl at a prom, with a nose zit.

It helps. It helps a lot.

After another losing season in which your recently acquired $78 million over-the-hill quarterback got benched and your corpulent $100 million defensive lineman simply refused to play, it is heartening to see you focusing your resources on trying to punish a newspaper.

Yes, it may be a dreadfully arrogant and stupid thing to do. But the point is, you seem to want to do it. And believe me, what makes you happy makes me happy.

Quote from: Sgt PSN on February 03, 2011, 03:34:05 PM
Those are hard to get, right?  

Quote from: FastFreddie on February 03, 2011, 03:52:59 PM
Yes, a two-time Pulitzer winner is hanging out with us here on :CF. That's the ticket.

Quote from: Sgt PSN on February 03, 2011, 04:03:51 PM

Quote from: FastFreddie on February 03, 2011, 03:52:59 PM
Yes, a two-time Pulitzer winner is hanging out with us here on :CF. That's the ticket.

I'm a believer in balance and that in it's own way, the universe delivers a lot of the balance in our lives. 

For every Dio, we get a Butcher's Bill
For every GF, we get a Munson
For every IGY, we get a stillupfront

So the only way to explain Todd's presence on this board is that there must also be a writer of the highest caliber on board to help maintain that universal balance. 

QuotePosted by Gregg Rosenthal on March 15, 2011, 2:36 PM EDT
NFL Owners Meet To Discuss Status Of Contract Negotiations

The professional football organization in Washington continues to focus on the important things.

When they aren't suing a tiny local paper, the team is ordering the Washington Post to change the name of their popular football blog.  Dan Steinberg of DC Sports Bog points out an article in the Post on Tuesday that explains why.

"The taterskins, who have been at the forefront in creating their own multimedia operations, have been aggressive in policing the use and misuse of their 'brand' by others," Paul Farhi writes.

To that end, they no longer allow local sports highlight shows on television or radio to use the team name unless its authorized.   Recently, they took that one step further.

"The taterskins recently asked the Washington Post to rename the newspaper's video webcast and blog about the team, which was called 'taterskins Insider,'" Fahri notes.  (The blog has since been retitled "Football Insider.")

After consulting with our legal team, we've determined that we will only mention the team's name from now on when quoting from other sources.

Otherwise, we will refer to the team as the Washington Indigenous Americans.  Or perhaps the Washington Free Agent Mistakes.

QuoteWe passed along an article last week in Minnesota that tried to tie Donovan McNabb to the Vikings.

Many of you didn't take it seriously because the information came from Charley Walters' notes column, which tends to throw a few things against the wall to see what sticks.

Well, a more reliable source connected McNabb to Minnesota on Saturday.   ESPN's Adam Schefter wrote on Twitter Saturday he believes Donovan McNabb "would like to" play for the Vikings next year.

It's unclear if the interest is mutual.  McNabb would have made more sense while Brad Childress was around, but new offensive coordinator Bill Musgrave is expected to transition away from the team's West Coast offense.

McNabb has been a somewhat forgotten man this offseason with Kevin Kolb, Carson Palmer, and even Marc Bulger connected to more teams. But McNabb is almost certainly not going to be in Washington next year and should be available.

He could work as a "bridge" quarterback for a team like Minnesota that also selects a quarterback in the draft.

QuoteLarry Weisman Goes From "Unfiltered" to Unemployed
Posted by Dave McKenna on Apr. 25, 2011 at 2:11 pm
Larry Weisman lost both his job and his Twitter handle on Friday.

In July 2009, Weisman became what to me looked like the smartest hire Dan Snyder ever made. Snyder never got along with the press; Weisman was the press, a longtime and respected NFL writer for USAToday and frequent guest on local sportsradio who was liked by pretty much everybody.

When he signed on with "taterskins Unfiltered," the team's p.r. machine's attempt to write news stories about the team itself, Weisman said his job was to keep doing what he'd always been doing as a newspaperman, only for a new boss.

In a statement from the team when Weisman was hired, Senior Vice President/Executive Producer-Media Larry Michael said, "Larry's credibility and experience will give taterskins fans something new and compelling to look forward to this season and beyond."

Weisman gave the team's faux news operation its greatest, and really only, credibility. ESPN would treat Weisman's releases like real news stories in regular news round-ups.

And though he was no longer a journalist, Weisman played one on TV, and played one well, during appearances on the infomercials produced by the team-owned taterskins Broadcast Network that aired on WRC-TV.

Bringing Weisman to taterskins Park made Snyder look big, too, since during his years with USA Today Weisman had taken tons of shots at the taterskins owner.

Like this one, from a USA Today chat in March 2006:

Ashburn, VA: Does Dan Snider have a clue? You think he would learn from his past mistakes. I wonder if looked at the number of catches El had last year or just the big pass in the Super Bowl. Even more funny is his pickup of T.O. lite from San Fran. 30 mil for a saftey that has taken one too many blows to the head? I give each player no more than two years before Dan cuts them.

Larry Weisman: Look at the bright side. He passes the costs on to season ticket holders and those who park cars at FedUpField. Ever heard that expression about people who know the price of everything and the value of nothing? Remember that Dan Snyder isn't so much playing with house money as with your money.

"FedUpField" is brutal! Yet here was Snyder hiring the guy who coined the phrase.

There was also this, which appeared on the Sporting News site about two weeks AFTER Weisman was brought into the taterskins' employ, with Weisman's byline and the headline "Mediocre Returns on Big Investments":

Since Daniel Snyder bought the franchise in 1999, it has one division title and two playoff victories, accolades hardly worth the megamillions Washington has burned through trying to get the best players of the day... The offensive line is past ripe, the quarterback has not matured and the receivers are in transition. They rely too heavily on Portis on offense, and on defense, they'll bank on Haynesworth to elevate everyone's level...

Bottom line: The taterskins are a mediocre team.

But maybe those words weren't ever really forgotten. On Friday, Weisman began spreading the word that he was out of work. "Kind of a shocker this AM," he tweeted. "So it goes. I guess free agents signed by the taterskins eventually get cut." Also: "Blindsided."

Weisman's tweets came on a new account, @MrLarryWeisman. His old handle, @LarryWeisman, was canceled when he got canned. (So far, Washington City Paper hasn't been able to get a hold of Weisman directly, but we'll update when we do.)

Asked about Weisman's departure, taterskins spokesperson Tony Wyllie says via email: "We don't comment publicly on personnel decisions and wish him the best of luck."

As for the cancellation of Weisman's Twitter account, Wyllie says, "We own the Twitter accounts that we publicize on our site/that our employees use to communicate with fans as part of their jobs."

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Why I am suing Washington City Paper
By Dan Snyder, Monday, April 26
On Tuesday I am refiling my lawsuit against Washington City Paper, a tabloid paper that published false and reckless charges about me in November 2010. The case needed to be refiled in Washington, not New York, for legal reasons; the rest of the complaint is essentially the same.

I expect to be criticized once again for pursuing this lawsuit. I originally filed it for one reason: The paper refused to issue an apology and retract false and damaging attacks on my integrity. If it had done so, there would have been no lawsuit.

For more than eight months, the same writer at this tabloid blogged or wrote about me. In producing more than 55 pieces, only three times did this particular writer bother to call my staff to check facts. The reporters of The Post and other papers know that my communications adviser, Tony Wyllie, is available 24-7 to respond to questions about me and the Washington taterskins. This writer, however, chose not to call to check the facts before he wrote an article last November that contained so many false assertions. 

I am the son of a University of Missouri School of Journalism graduate whose professional pedigree includes working at United Press International and National Geographic. I am proud of that legacy from my dad and understand the journalist's perspective and challenges.

I am not thin-skinned about personal criticism. I consider myself very fortunate to own the taterskins. Criticism comes with the territory and I respect it. I have never sued people who publish critical opinions of me, nor have I previously sued any news organization.

I understand the anger people feel toward me when the taterskins have a losing season or when we sign a veteran player who does not meet expectations. I have been a taterskins fan all my life, and I get angry, too, including at myself. I am the first to admit that I've made mistakes as an owner. I hope I've learned from them. All I want is for the taterskins to win!

But I also hope that people understand why sometimes, especially in the age of the Internet, when an unretracted lie can live forever, you have to draw the line. I honor vigorous free expression in the media. But even a public figure can sue for defamation when a tabloid paper publishes a harmful assertion of a fact, not an opinion, that it knows to be false or recklessly disregards the truth.

That is exactly what this writer and City Paper did. Among many examples in the November 2010 article, the most egregious was when the article stated: This is "the same Dan Snyder who got caught forging names as a telemarketer for Snyder Communications." That is a clear factual assertion that I am guilty of forgery, a serious crime that goes directly to the heart of my reputation — as a businessman, marketer and entrepreneur. It is false.   

Remarkably, several weeks after I filed the lawsuit, the publisher wrote in Washington City Paper that she was "baffled" that anyone could read the article and believe that I had been accused of personally engaging in forgery. "In fact," she wrote, "we have no reason to believe he personally did any such thing — and our story never says he did."   

Well, I am baffled, too, since personally engaging in forgery is precisely what the paper explicitly said I had been "caught" doing. If the publisher has "no reason to believe" that "Dan Snyder got caught forging names," then why not retract the words that explicitly said I was a forger and simply apologize?   

Let's be clear what this lawsuit is not about. It is not about money. I have already publicly committed to donate any financial damages I win to help the homeless. Nor did I or any of my representatives ask for the tabloid writer to be fired, despite published reports to the contrary.

The large for-profit corporation that owns Washington City Paper could have checked the public facts and done the right thing: required its paper to retract the false charges and apologize. Had they done so when I filed the lawsuit, I would have immediately withdrawn the case. If City Paper in the next several days retracts the false statements cited in my lawsuit and apologizes, I am still willing to withdraw the case.

Simply put, this lawsuit is about the truth — and the need to correct the record, even when you are a public figure, when your character and integrity are falsely and recklessly attacked. This is the case whether you are a public figure or a private citizen.  Nothing more and nothing less.   

Enough is enough. 

The writer is owner of the Washington taterskins.

Quote from: FastFreddie on May 06, 2011, 02:53:35 PM
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Quote from: ice grillin you on May 06, 2011, 08:58:21 PMif new england makes this signing everyone is applauding it

QuoteHopkins, in Philadelphia for his May 21 fight against Jean Pascal, invited reporters to watch him train Tuesday and decided to take additional verbal jabs at McNabb and even implied that the Washington taterskins quarterback wasn't black enough.

"Forget this," Hopkins said, according to the Philadelphia Daily News, and pointed to his own skin. "He's got a suntan. That's all."

Quote from: ice grillin you on May 11, 2011, 01:18:13 PM
his obsession with mcnabb went beyond pathological a long time ago

Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on May 11, 2011, 02:38:46 PM
You'd think Donvan farged his woman of something.

Hopkins, Havas and Todd are all hardcore McNabb haters

Quote from: ice grillin you on May 11, 2011, 02:43:31 PM
if i could pull it off id have him trade places with tractor traylor

QuoteBeck said he likes McNabb but he is glad the quarterback situation played out like it did in Washington late last season.

"I have to say I'm glad it happened," Beck said of McNabb's demotion. "If I want my opportunity, I have to have stuff like this happen so I can get an opportunity. If McNabb stays as starter of the Washington taterskins, I remain a backup, and I want to be a starter. So, I have to hope for things like this to happen."

QuoteWASHINGTON -- Donovan McNabb has figured out one way to stay in the nation's capital.

"Maybe I'll play for the Nationals," he said.

Graziano: Is Shanahan Serious?

Graziano Mike Shanahan is saying he's comfortable with John Beck as his starting quarterback. ESPN.com's Dan Graziano is reserving the right to remain skeptical. Blog

The Washington taterskins do quarterback controversies like no one else, even during a lockout. Wednesday was about as busy as it gets, especially considering the next official team practice is on indefinite hold.

McNabb was the showcase guest at the opening of a local health center and joked about playing baseball as he discussed his latest bizarre offseason. Rex Grossman appeared on the radio and said he "definitely" feels he'll be the starter next season, even though he's a free agent. Both were asked about John Beck, who has been on a media blitz of sorts lately, saying he sees himself as the No. 1 -- even though he hasn't played in a regular-season game since 2007.

"For someone who's so quiet and really just tries to be the best at what I do -- and to be a part of the firestorm every offseason -- it's amazing," McNabb said.

Beck said Monday, in an appearance on SiriusXM NFL Radio, that he likes McNabb but he is glad the quarterback situation played out like it did in Washington late last season, giving him the opportunity to start.

On Wednesday, McNabb said he didn't take offense to Beck's comments.

"John is a great guy. He does a great job preparing himself," McNabb said, according to The Washington Post. "I've known him since he was about 16 years old. I've trained with him in Arizona, he went to BYU. He's done a great job, and I'm sure he's taking on that role because he's kind of been given the position, so to speak. He'll do a good job if that was to happen. But whatever the situation is -- if I'm here, if I'm elsewhere -- I'm gonna be ready to go."

McNabb is still under contract, basically a taterskins quarterback in name only. But his year with Washington was troublesome. He was benched twice in a 6-10 season, and there were testy exchanges involving his agent and the team. Washington is expected to trade or release him after the lockout ends.

"No one else outside can control what happens at taterskins Park," McNabb said. "They'll make their decision and whatever decision it is, I'll keep on moving. ... It really doesn't matter to me. If I'm here, or if I'm elsewhere, I'll be fine. ... Everything that happened at the end of the year just made me stronger mentally."

Among the recent stories to add to the McNabb pile: A report by 106.7 The Fan radio alleged he refused to wear a wristband during games to help him with the plays. McNabb declined to address the issue Wednesday, but Grossman contributed a nugget or two to the intrigue in his appearance on ESPN980 radio.

"I personally don't like wearing a wristband. Some teams do it, some people like it, some quarterbacks like it, and obviously Donovan didn't like it, so he didn't want to do that," Grossman said. "I'm not sure that was a major issue. I don't think that was a big problem between him and the coaching staff."

Grossman said McNabb had a tough transition after 11 years in one system with the Philadelphia Eagles and that "it got a little bit strained" between McNabb and the coach staff by the end of the year.

"I think he's ready to move on, and they are too," Grossman said.

As for his own future, Grossman said he'll be back in the area next week when the taterskins hold their second players-own minicamp at a Virginia high school. He started the final three games last season, but his contract expired when the lockout began.

However, he agreed his chances to re-sign and be the starter increase the longer the lockout goes on because he's more comfortable with the offense than McNabb, Beck or anyone else the team might sign.

"I definitely feel like I'm the starter, but I'm not even signed yet, so I'm assuming a lot of things here," Grossman said. "The coaches have to set the playing field and let us know what the situation is. I feel I'm coming into the prime of my experience and I know exactly what I can do well and what my weaknesses and strengths are, and how it relates to this offense. I've been in crucial situations. I've played in the Super Bowl. I feel I'm so much better than I was then that I'd like to have the opportunity to have a full season with this offense and have a whole season to feel like this is my team. That's my goal. That's what I want to happen."

But he'll have to beat out Beck, who received effusive praise from coach Mike Shanahan after the taterskins opted not to take a quarterback in last month's draft. Beck is under contract but hasn't played since he was a rookie with the Miami Dolphins four years ago. He's made at least four radio appearances in recent weeks, speaking with all the confidence of someone who will be taking the first snap in the season opener in September.

"Every single player in the NFL, if you don't feel you're a starter, you shouldn't be in the business," Grossman said. "I think he's leaving no stone unturned. He's doing everything he can to put himself out there. You're not going to be perceived as the starter unless you say it, I guess. If he doesn't say it, no one else is going to say it."

Beck said in Monday's radio interview with SiriusXM NFL Radio that he has been calling teammates to organize workouts.

"I basically say, 'Screw the awkwardness.' 'I'm trying to be the starting quarterback," he said in the interview. "I'll call whoever, try to set whatever up. If you don't think like a starter and act like a starter, your teammates probably aren't gonna believe you're the starter. So I'm thinking I'm the starter."

The taterskins signed Beck to a three-year contract worth $3.35 million last season that keeps him under contract through the 2012 season.

In April, Shanahan said he had Beck rated as the best quarterback available in the 2007 draft. JaMarcus Russell, Brady Quinn, Kevin Kolb, Trent Edwards, Drew Stanton and Troy Smith are some of the other quarterbacks who were drafted that year.

"I had a lot of confidence in John Beck when he came out in 2007," Shanahan said, according to The Washington Post. "I evaluate the quarterbacks every year, and I do have confidence in John Beck. He was by far my No. 1 guy. I think the world of him."

Quote from: ice grillin you on May 19, 2011, 10:15:41 AM
how is he not a kicker

Quote from: reese125 on May 19, 2011, 11:16:54 AM
That face screams I'm your leader.

Quote from: Rome on May 19, 2011, 02:01:28 PM

Quote from: reese125 on May 19, 2011, 11:16:54 AM
That face screams I'm your leader.

Yeah if you're at ComicCon.

Quotetaterskins coaches stand with NFL owners
May, 26, 2011
May 26
3:56
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By Dan Graziano
No individual coaches were named Wednesday when the NFL Coaches' Association filed a brief in support of the players in the 8th Circuit Court. But at least one group of coaches wants to make sure nobody thinks they're connected with it. In a statement released Thursday, the Washington taterskins' coaching staff distanced itself from the Wednesday brief and made it clear that it supports the position of the owners in their labor dispute against the players.

   "The Washington taterskins' coaching staff has not given its backing to the brief filed with the 8th Circuit Court of Appeals on behalf of the National Football League Coaches Association," the statement reads. "Our former representative, Kirk Olivadotti, is no longer with the organization and no member of our coaching staff was consulted prior to this action being taken.

   "We stand united with our ownership and the brief does not reflect our thoughts on the matter. We, like everyone else, are hopeful that we can return to playing football. We look forward to a new CBA and welcoming back our players as soon as possible."


The statement is hand-signed by every member of the taterskins' coaching staff except head coach Mike Shanahan. A taterskins team spokesman told me the reason Shanahan didn't sign the document is because his title is Executive Vice President, and as such he represents team management (which I guess doesn't have to explain which side of the dispute it's on). Shanahan's son, offensive coordinator Kyle Shanahan, did sign the document, as did defensive coordinator Jim Haslett and the rest of the staff.

The brief the NFLCA filed Wednesday specifically pointed out the damage it believes the lockout is doing to the staffs of the eight teams that have new head coaches this year and the "three additional coaches who have only spent one season with their teams." Shanahan and the taterskins' coaches fall into that latter category, but clearly, they don't want anybody to think they had anything to do with Wednesday's brief.

It'll be interesting to see if any other coaching staffs make a point of saying whether they do or don't support the NFLCA brief. Coaches have, after all, been caught in the middle of this whole thing.

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taterskins installing standing room party decks at FedEx
By Mike Jones
Updated: 6:22 p.m.

The removal of thousands of seats at FedEx field is part of a multi-million dollar renovation project ordered by taterskins owner Daniel Snyder that will include two "party decks" and is designed to alter the game-day experience for Washington fans.

As you've seen on the D.C. Sports Bog, the first stages of the project are underway. Several thousand seats have been removed from the 400 level at one end of the stadium. Another couple thousand seats will be removed from the opposite end.

In those areas, two party decks will be erected where fans will be able to participate in pre- and post-game festivities and buy standing room viewing tickets, according to sources who spoke on the condition of anonymity because plans are still being finalized.

"It's keeping up with the Joneses," one source said. "The modifications, and the party decks, are keeping with a trend of what Jerry Jones did in Dallas, and what Tampa Bay has. [The decks] are affordable, fun areas where people like to hang out before, during and after games."

The renovation project isn't expected to be completed until just in time for the start of the 2012 season. At taterskins games this season, spectators will notice the elimination of those 400-level seats, and that the stadium is more open at each end.

Cranes arrived at FedEx Field Monday to begin removing the concrete areas that had served as a foundation for those upper-level end zone seats. According to a "commercial interior permit" issued by the Prince George's County Department of Environmental Resources, the taterskins requested to "install club level platform structure." The supports for the party deck will be above the club level, the sources said.

The exact capacity reduction is not yet known, the sources said, because architects are still finalizing details of the stadium's new look. But FedEx Field, with a capacity of 91,704, still is expected to be one of the largest stadiums in the NFL. (Dallas's new stadium seats 80,000 fans during the regular season, but has the ability to expand to 111,000.)

The sources said the taterskins are still expected to fit sellout crowds of roughly 85,000 fans into the stadium this season.

Jones opened the new Cowboys Stadium in 2009. It features a total of six party decks located in the end zone areas. The Cowboys' party deck area holds between 15,000 and 35,000 fans at a price of $29 a head. In addition to concessions and television monitors, the decks provide an overlooking view of the field, but no seats.

The taterskins are expected to offer a similarly-priced, standing view package for their party decks.

Rumblings about the removal of seats sparked concern among fans who had to renew their tickets for the coming season months ago. The sources said the taterskins have moved fans with seats in those areas using their annual relocation process.

When ticket holders with better seats do not renew season tickets, fans with seats in the 400-level end zone areas are moved into better seats – closer to the field, or closer to the 50-yard-line, depending on the fan's preference. Fans on the season ticket waiting list are then given seats in the upper level end zone areas.

The taterskins have long maintained that the team has a season ticket waiting list comprised of tens of thousands of fans and that it takes years for new season tickets to become available. The party deck construction project means those fans will not get off the waiting list this year.

One source said that taterskins officials knew the decision to rip out thousands of seats rather than offer them to waiting list fans could create a backlash. But the team also faced the uncertainty that the NFL lockout has cast on the 2011 season.

"The concern was that fans that had been on the waiting list for 16 seasons were suddenly up, but were being asked to pay for a season that might not happen," the source said. "The feeling was that it would be unfair."

Ultimately, the source said, Snyder and team officials elected not to aggressively pursue sales to fans on the waiting list, and to begin the renovation project. Next offseason, however, waiting list sales will resume and fans will remain in the same spots on the list.

The party decks are part of a renovation project that actually began last year. The taterskins in 2010 installed two 30-foot-tall by 100-foot-wide high-definition video screens in each end zone. Team officials and designers also are planning several new wrinkles to enhance FedEx Field's lower levels this season and next.

"[The taterskins] are trying to make the stadium more attractive," one source said. "In addition to making the experience better for their fans, it also will help attract more non-football events."

FedEx Field hosted a Kenny Chesney concert Saturday that drew 52,000 fans. In July, the stadium will host European soccer powers FC Barcelona vs. Manchester United.

Quote"The concern was that fans that had been on the waiting list for 16 seasons were suddenly up, but were being asked to pay for a season that might not happen," the source said. "The feeling was that it would be unfair."

Quote
Evesham , N.J. – A familiar face joined the Eagles for their voluntary workouts in the suburbs on Wednesday.

Among the half-dozen or so Eagles practicing on the artificial turf field at the Memorial Sports Complex in Marlton, N.J. was Donovan McNabb.

No. 5 is in town for a few days because he'll be at the dedication of The McNabb Family Neonatal Intensive Care Unit at the Voorhees Replacement Hospital, to which McNabb has given a six-figure donation.

So while in town, McNabb decided to work out with some of his former teammates with the trainers from Power Train in Cherry Hill, N.J.

He spent the early morning at the Power Train facility and went to the Memorial Sports Complex in the late-morning hours with Jamaal Jackson, Austin Howard, Trevor Laws, Juqua Parker. They did agility drills with cones and weight training with medicine balls on the artificial turf field for about 45 minutes.

"I'm just focused on working out, it's what I do in the off-season," McNabb said. "So, working with a great group of guys."

Quote from: Sgt PSN on June 22, 2011, 03:02:58 PM
Wow....McNabb looks like he's 50 in that video.

Quote from: Sgt PSN on June 23, 2011, 10:51:30 AM
I don't know if I'd read that much into it.  He was already in town for an event and decided to get together with a few buddies who happen to be former teammates and work out for a couple hours.  I don't look at the Eagles players and think that they are dissin Mike Vick because they worked out with McNabb and not him, so I gotta be consistant and give McNabb the same benefit.

QuoteExtremeSkins Fan View: Cap Hell Rocks!
By Arthur Mills
ExtremeSkins.com
March 16, 2006




Don't hate us because we're beautiful.

No more blank, wondering stares, confused head scratching, frothing emotional outbursts, conspiracy theories or embarrassing, dismissive references to 2000. The Washington taterskins are the central theme of every NFL team message board out there. Here's a message to you all from all ExtremeSkins fans everywhere.

It's time to embrace the reality of it all. Simply, we're better than you.  :-D

That's it. Look no further. We are better than you. We're more fun. It feels better to be us. We've got flair. We're audacious, capricious, bodacious, supercalifragilisticxpalidocious.

Are you finally getting it?

Yes, yes, I know cap hell was supposed to be upon us. I know that's what you've been told. I feel for you, I really do. As you come to realize we're better than you, a second bit of stark reality must also penetrate. We're smarter than them.

Repeat after me.

The Washington taterskins are managed, coached and owned by highly professional people who know more about running a football franchise than ALL the unnamed, anonymous sources any reporter has yanked from the broom closet and quoted.

Don't take my word for it. Take the following words for it.

Brandon Lloyd, Antwaan Randle El, Adam Archuleta, Andre Carter, Todd Collins, Christian Fauria.   :-D

The question you all should be asking isn't, "How is all this possible?" No. The question should be, "How didn't we know this was all possible?"

Six years of assurances cap hell was on the way and you still allowed yourself to believe the tripe. Perhaps busting the cap hell myth as it relates to the Washington taterskins is just too painful a thing for media and fans of other teams to do.

Like a child coming to the harsh knowledge Santa doesn't exist, the media and opposing teams' fans are struggling desperately to hang on to the fiction that cap hell is on the way for the taterskins despite--literally--YEARS of demonstrated contrary evidence.

Here's the best part.

You don't have to hate us for what we're doing. You can do it, too.

"The thing I want to emphasize is this: We haven't done one thing that anybody else can't do," Joe Gibbs said after the introductory press conference for Andre Carter. "We have certain rules in the league. Here's the cap, here's the numbers, here's what you can spend, so everybody in the league can do what we're doing, it's just that they choose not to, many of them."

Deep down, this is really the issue, isn't it? You can do it too and you know it, but, your team doesn't do it, so, you have a hard choice. Hate your team, or hate us.

Say you're a fan of the Philadelphia Eagles. You always have all those many millions available, which somehow never seem to get spent. All week you're hearing how you have LeCharles Bentley locked up as your free agent masterstroke to solidify your offensive line.

You are giddy. You're thrilled. You know this is the guy you need. He fills a need and makes it a strength. You're excited about the prospects of adding such a substantial piece. Then, the Cleveland Browns call, offer a few more bucks to Bentley and Bentley winds up in Cleveland leaving you with nothing more than whimpering excuses that Bentley is from Cleveland and always wanted to play there.

Oh, hush.

Antwaan Randle El is from Chicago. He's always wanted to play there. Yet he's playing in D.C. Adam Archuleta  :-D admits he adores Lovie Smith after years playing for him with St. Louis and wanted to play with him in Chicago. Yet he's playing in D.C. Andre Carter just had to meet the Broncos because his father played there 12 years and he envisioned being the second generation of his family with the team. Yet he's playing in D.C.

And it's driving you crazy because you were so excited and thrilled about the prospects of adding a good player your management and owner can't figure out how to land while we get EVERY single player we shoot at.

We get to actually live the thrill and giddiness you only get to brush up against. And it's killing you.

Did we pay a premium for generally young players entering their prime with years left to play in the NFL? You bet we did. Kind of like when the Eagles lock up their own young players for a premium before they really emerge on the scene and everyone calls that genius. Think of it like that, only, with the component of actually being smart because an expensive 24-year-old promising receiver suddenly becomes a very cheap 26-year-old receiver when he grabs 80 balls.

See, we already had good players under contract. Now we have more.

As you struggle to find words to describe the coming cap doom heading our way, try to process one final thought. When you have that free agent you need all lined up and you don't get him, well, isn't that really what cap hell feels like?

I wouldn't know, because I don't ever have to feel that way.

Quote from: SD on July 25, 2011, 07:34:11 PM
With free agency on the horizon it's time once again to break out this gem:

QuoteExtremeSkins Fan View: Cap Hell Rocks!
By Arthur Mills
ExtremeSkins.com
March 16, 2006








Don't hate us because we're beautiful.

No more blank, wondering stares, confused head scratching, frothing emotional outbursts, conspiracy theories or embarrassing, dismissive references to 2000. The Washington taterskins are the central theme of every NFL team message board out there. Here's a message to you all from all ExtremeSkins fans everywhere.

It's time to embrace the reality of it all. Simply, we're better than you.  :-D

That's it. Look no further. We are better than you. We're more fun. It feels better to be us. We've got flair. We're audacious, capricious, bodacious, supercalifragilisticxpalidocious.

Are you finally getting it?

Yes, yes, I know cap hell was supposed to be upon us. I know that's what you've been told. I feel for you, I really do. As you come to realize we're better than you, a second bit of stark reality must also penetrate. We're smarter than them.

Repeat after me.

The Washington taterskins are managed, coached and owned by highly professional people who know more about running a football franchise than ALL the unnamed, anonymous sources any reporter has yanked from the broom closet and quoted.

Don't take my word for it. Take the following words for it.

Brandon Lloyd, Antwaan Randle El, Adam Archuleta, Andre Carter, Todd Collins, Christian Fauria.   :-D

The question you all should be asking isn't, "How is all this possible?" No. The question should be, "How didn't we know this was all possible?"

Six years of assurances cap hell was on the way and you still allowed yourself to believe the tripe. Perhaps busting the cap hell myth as it relates to the Washington taterskins is just too painful a thing for media and fans of other teams to do.

Like a child coming to the harsh knowledge Santa doesn't exist, the media and opposing teams' fans are struggling desperately to hang on to the fiction that cap hell is on the way for the taterskins despite--literally--YEARS of demonstrated contrary evidence.

Here's the best part.

You don't have to hate us for what we're doing. You can do it, too.

"The thing I want to emphasize is this: We haven't done one thing that anybody else can't do," Joe Gibbs said after the introductory press conference for Andre Carter. "We have certain rules in the league. Here's the cap, here's the numbers, here's what you can spend, so everybody in the league can do what we're doing, it's just that they choose not to, many of them."

Deep down, this is really the issue, isn't it? You can do it too and you know it, but, your team doesn't do it, so, you have a hard choice. Hate your team, or hate us.

Say you're a fan of the Philadelphia Eagles. You always have all those many millions available, which somehow never seem to get spent. All week you're hearing how you have LeCharles Bentley locked up as your free agent masterstroke to solidify your offensive line.

You are giddy. You're thrilled. You know this is the guy you need. He fills a need and makes it a strength. You're excited about the prospects of adding such a substantial piece. Then, the Cleveland Browns call, offer a few more bucks to Bentley and Bentley winds up in Cleveland leaving you with nothing more than whimpering excuses that Bentley is from Cleveland and always wanted to play there.

Oh, hush.

Antwaan Randle El is from Chicago. He's always wanted to play there. Yet he's playing in D.C. Adam Archuleta  :-D admits he adores Lovie Smith after years playing for him with St. Louis and wanted to play with him in Chicago. Yet he's playing in D.C. Andre Carter just had to meet the Broncos because his father played there 12 years and he envisioned being the second generation of his family with the team. Yet he's playing in D.C.

And it's driving you crazy because you were so excited and thrilled about the prospects of adding a good player your management and owner can't figure out how to land while we get EVERY single player we shoot at.

We get to actually live the thrill and giddiness you only get to brush up against. And it's killing you.

Did we pay a premium for generally young players entering their prime with years left to play in the NFL? You bet we did. Kind of like when the Eagles lock up their own young players for a premium before they really emerge on the scene and everyone calls that genius. Think of it like that, only, with the component of actually being smart because an expensive 24-year-old promising receiver suddenly becomes a very cheap 26-year-old receiver when he grabs 80 balls.

See, we already had good players under contract. Now we have more.

As you struggle to find words to describe the coming cap doom heading our way, try to process one final thought. When you have that free agent you need all lined up and you don't get him, well, isn't that really what cap hell feels like?

I wouldn't know, because I don't ever have to feel that way.

Quote from: MDS on July 27, 2011, 12:14:08 AM
oh dear god its even worse

you doin ok, big guy? ill be at IAH for a few hours on aug 4 if you want to talk about it

Quote from: BigEd76 on July 27, 2011, 12:32:17 AM
Barry Cofield to the Skins.  cmon, release Albert....you know you wanna...

Quote from: ice grillin you on July 27, 2011, 09:51:19 AM
donte stallworth

Quote from: BigEd76 on July 27, 2011, 05:02:56 PM
Brandon Stokley

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Brandon Stokley thinks twice about heading to Washington
Posted by Mike Florio on July 28, 2011, 10:27 AM EDT

With an unprecedented 80-hour gap between the opening of the market and the signing of contracts, we were expecting one or two (or more) guys to renege on non-binding verbal agreements.

And we now have our first one.

On Wednesday, agent Rick Smith declared on his Twitter page that receiver Brandon Stokley had agreed to terms with the taterskins.  "Congratulations to Brandon Stokley a Washington taterskin," Smith said.

We then pointed out that Stokley's arrival gives the taterskins a crowded house at receiver.

Apparently, Stokley and/or Smith read PFT.

"Spoke to soon. Brandon Stokley won't sign with taterskins.  Too many WR's signed," Rick Smith tweeted on Thursday, via ESPN.com.

Stokley — and every other free agent who has agreed to terms — have every right to back away from any agreement that has been reached.  As we wrote on Tuesday night, "An executive with an NFC team speculated that some teams may be concerned about doing an agreement in principle and having the agent or the player shop that offer to someone else, since a deal isn't binding until it's signed."

In Stokley's case, it's possible that he realized after the fact that the taterskins have too many receivers.  It's also possible that some other team has offered Stokley a better deal, and that Smith is hiding behind that excuse.

Either way, it's safe to say that the taterskins aren't happy about this one.

Quote from: PhillyPhanInDC on July 28, 2011, 10:32:24 AM
Jenkins is a 3-4 end. He eats up space. Doesn't exactly equate.....

Although I would have been stoked to have him play as a DT.

Quote from: PhillyPhanInDC on July 28, 2011, 10:32:24 AM
Jenkins is a 3-4 end. He eats up space. Doesn't exactly equate to the Babin signing.

Although I would have been happy as hell to have him play as a DT.

Quote from: BigEd76 on July 28, 2011, 01:47:32 PM
and that's worth $27M?  He barely started half of Dallas' games...

Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on July 28, 2011, 01:52:04 PM
Football is in the air...

Igy's gettin' fired up about his Skins.

Skins and Braves!

Lemme hear your war cry!

QuoteJenkins-to-taterskins deal dead
Posted by Mike Florio on July 28, 2011, 2:59 PM EDT
Cullen+Jenkins+kMaLZ0vmG1bm Getty Images

When word broke that the taterskins have signed defensive end Stephen Bowen, some fans were intrigued about the possibility that Bowen would be joined by Cullen Jenkins.

Instead, we're now told the Jenkins talks are dead.

As we understand it, a handshake deal was close if not done.  Something happened to prompt the taterskins to go for Bowen instead.

Since Bowen played for the Cowboys, Jenkins can now perhaps sign there.  But he may have to take even less than what the taterskins were prepared to pay.

Quote from: FastFreddie on July 28, 2011, 03:19:29 PM
While you're imagining, could you throw in some linebackers and a nice deal for DeSean?

Quote from: SD on July 28, 2011, 03:33:33 PM
Just heard a Skins/Cullen Jenkins deal is 'DEAD'

Quote from: FastFreddie on July 28, 2011, 03:35:28 PM

Quote from: SD on July 28, 2011, 03:33:33 PM
Just heard a Skins/Cullen Jenkins deal is 'DEAD'

Do you have a Twitter feed coming to a radio on a 20 minute delay?

Quote from: rjs246 on July 28, 2011, 04:42:56 PM
All of you people badmouthing Miller Lite need to check yourselves.

Miller Lite is the second greatest thing ever created. You filthy whoremouthed wangticklers.

Quote from: FastFreddie on July 28, 2011, 06:45:30 PM
I'm 3 Miller Lites deep myself. Starting to consider trip to Parx tonight.

Quote from: ice grillin you on July 28, 2011, 06:52:53 PM
if theres a difference btwn bud light and miller light (and 95% of big brewery domestic light beers) ive never tasted it

cant believe people still argue over these types of brews

Quote from: SD on July 28, 2011, 06:49:44 PM

Quote from: FastFreddie on July 28, 2011, 06:45:30 PM
I'm 3 Miller Lites deep myself. Starting to consider trip to Parx tonight.

You're in my nape of the woods, neck of the wape.

Quote from: SD on July 28, 2011, 06:56:20 PM

Quote from: ice grillin you on July 28, 2011, 06:52:53 PM
if theres a difference btwn bud light and miller light (and 95% of big brewery domestic light beers) ive never tasted it

cant believe people still argue over these types of brews

Someone challenged me a few years back to a taste test between Bud Light, Miller Light, Coors Light. I was already buzzed and passed with flying colors.

My room mate and I were out with some friends who ordered Miller Lite, waitress gave me their drinks by accident and first sip I knew it wasn't Bud Light. I tasted Bud Light at the brewery in St. Louis before they throw the beachwood into the distillery, it tastes very similar to Miller Lite. Flat and zesty.

Quote from: rjs246 on July 28, 2011, 06:45:14 PM
Bid light gives me and everyone I know the shteins. I guess you're into that sort of thing.

Quote from: ice grillin you on July 28, 2011, 07:13:15 PM
i mean you wouldnt actually be at a party find out the keg is miller lite and get pissed or make a comment would you?

Quote from: SD on July 28, 2011, 07:47:01 PM
I usually drink a 6 pack of Bud Light before going over to their house, that way it lessens the blow.

Quote from: Rome on July 28, 2011, 07:57:04 PM

Quote from: SD on July 28, 2011, 07:47:01 PM
I usually drink a 6 pack of Bud Light before going over to their house, that way it lessens the blow.

WOWSA

Quote
Someone challenged me a few years back to a taste test between Bud Light, Miller Light, Coors Light. I was already buzzed and passed with flying colors.

QuoteJason Reid says the trade of Albert Haynesworth to the Patriots was Mike Shanahan's finest hour so far as the taterskins' coach. I mean, I know Jason wanted Big Al out, but ... sheesh. If he's right in his assessment, it's a good thing for Shanahan he has four more years on his contract to come up with a better "finest moment."

QuotePosted at 12:15 PM ET, 07/29/2011

Romanowski: 'McNabb was lazy'

By Dan Steinberg
I'm not sure just how often Bill Romanowski talks to Mike Shanahan nowadays, but he sure seems to think he has a read on his former coach. The ex-NFL linebacker made a bunch of radio appearances this week, and in one of them — with ESPN Boston — he attempted to clear up just what went wrong last year in Washington.

"Mike was not a difficult guy to get along with," Romanowski said of Shanahan. "You had to be a pro. He wanted you to work hard every day. He wanted you to get there early and leave late and do not be a problem in the locker room. That's who and what he is....

"If you get under his skin, I'll tell you what, he will make it miserable for you. That's the way Mike is....


"You have to be able to make the tough decisions. Look what he did with Donovan McNabb. Do you know why he had issues with Donovan McNabb? He had issues because Donovan McNabb was LAZY. He wasn't prepared. It is a real bad thing. But guess what, Mike tried to save face, and he got caught in some situations where he should have just come out and said you know what....

"But he thought he would lose the locker room. He didn't have to worry about losing the locker room with Albert Haynesworth. But with Donovan McNabb, he could have completely lost the locker room, so he got caught up with some issues there, kind of skating around. We all heard it last year when they benched Donovan at the end of a game and they brought Rex Grossman in and said he wasn't ready to handle [the two-minute offense]....

"I was looking at it and I was like 'Mike, what are you doing? Why are you doing this?' And it was pretty clear to me. I know Mike. I've played for him. When you kick butt for him, you work your butt off, he will give you ultimate respect. When you don't, he won't."

This does, in fact, track with much of what Jason Reid wrote this week:

People in the organization say McNabb deserves much of the blame for his disastrous partnership with the Shanahans.
They say Mike Shanahan felt betrayed by McNabb. He believed McNabb would embrace new ideas, and work harder, after being dumped by the Philadelphia Eagles. That's why Shanahan ignored his son's strong objections and traded second- and fourth-round draft picks for McNabb.

They say once McNabb arrived, Shanahan quickly determined his son was right. McNabb moved too slowly during practice and in games to operate their offense.

Except for the whole "lazy" word.

Quote from: Drunkmasterflex on July 29, 2011, 03:59:19 PM
Its funny just a year ago everybody in the national media was saying how we as fans didn't understand what we would miss with McNabb being gone. 

Quote from: Drunkmasterflex on July 29, 2011, 03:59:19 PM
Its funny just a year ago everybody in the national media was saying how we as fans didn't understand what we would miss with McNabb being gone. 

Quote from: SD on August 05, 2011, 06:22:56 PM
Said every American Indian he knows thinks it's absurd.

Quote from: SunMo on August 05, 2011, 06:35:07 PM

Quote from: SD on August 05, 2011, 06:22:56 PM
Said every American Indian he knows thinks it's absurd.

so like 5 people then?

Quote from: ice grillin you on August 05, 2011, 06:48:28 PM

Quote from: SunMo on August 05, 2011, 06:35:07 PM

Quote from: SD on August 05, 2011, 06:22:56 PM
Said every American Indian he knows thinks it's absurd.

so like 5 people then?

theres about five sober ones

Quote from: ice grillin you on August 05, 2011, 09:56:57 PM
a mimosa is heating pad water

Quote from: Sgt PSN on August 05, 2011, 10:37:38 PM
Oh yeah....but it'll still hit you fairly hard, especially if it's the good stuff.  I don't know champagne, couldn't tell you what's good and what isn't but I can tell you that her aunt and uncle don't do cheap, especially when it comes to booze.  I didn't drink this morning because I had to drive back up north to the desert but I've gone through a few bottles of the stuff with them before and it's some good shtein and it'll give even an accomplished drinker like myself a very solid buzz, so just imagine what it does to a 130lb injun lady.  The report I got from my girl was that she passed out around 11 and woke back up at 4 and picked up where she left off.

Quote from: SD on August 09, 2011, 10:07:34 PM
wow

The only thing they might win is Andrew Luck

QuoteDragon: Unleashed.

Engage erection.

Quotetaterskins running back James Davis has abruptly left training camp, without telling anyone where he was going.

Coach Mike Shanahan is asking anyone who knows where Davis is to let the taterskins know.

"If you see him, let me know because I'm wondering where he was at, too," Shanahan said. "Missing in action."

ESPN 980 reported that Davis left after getting into an argument with a coach about playing time. Davis did not get on the field for the team's preseason opener against the Steelers.

Davis probably wasn't going to make the team anyway, as he was fifth on the depth chart at running back.

A sixth-round draft pick of the Browns in 2009, Davis played in six games over two seasons for the Browns, then played in three games for the taterskins after the Browns cut him during the 2010 season.

Quote from: ice grillin you on August 31, 2011, 07:14:50 AM
taterskins have a good chance of winning eight....and theres zero chance they lose less than five....bedwetter was worse last year than any qb on their roster right now...dont underestimate the importance of not having him on the team anymore

Quote from: ice grillin you on August 31, 2011, 07:46:54 AM
double or nothing on the twenty i owe you

i get skins 6-16 wins
you get skins 1-5 wins

Quote
taterskins owner Dan Snyder drops lawsuit against City Paper
By Mike Jones

The Washington taterskins announced Saturday evening that owner Daniel M. Snyder has dropped his lawsuit against the Washington City Paper.

Snyder in April filed a lawsuit against the City Paper and reporter Dave McKenna on the grounds that an article that ran in November 2010 defamed the owner's character.

Snyder said that he did so upon the urging of senior vice president Tony Wyllie. This week Snyder in an interview with the New York Times Magazine said that he actually never read the article.

The team released the following statement:

"The lawsuit was pursued as a means to correct the public record following several critical factual misstatements in the Washington City Paper article," Wyllie said. "In the course of the defendants' recently filed pleadings and statements in this matter, the Washington City Paper and its writer have admitted that certain assertions contained in the article that are the subject of the lawsuit were, in fact, unintended by the defendants to be read literally as true. Therefore, we see nothing further to be gained at this time through continuing the lawsuit. We prefer to focus on the coming football season and the business at hand. We remain committed to assisting with responsible reportage of the Team and the many people involved in our organization, including Dan Snyder, and the principle that the truth and the facts matter in responsible journalism has been vindicated."

The taterskins sent out the release at 8:20 p.m. Saturday, roughly 20 hours before the team kicks off the 2011 season at home against the New York Giants.

Quote from: shorebird on September 01, 2011, 06:02:03 AM

Quote from: ice grillin you on August 31, 2011, 07:46:54 AM
double or nothing on the twenty i owe you

i get skins 6-16 wins
you get skins 1-5 wins

Thats a bet.

Quote from: ice grillin you on September 18, 2011, 01:50:00 PM
announcer exchange after rex grossman led the team down the field only to throw a horrible pick in the red zone

pbp guy: well youve seen the good rex and the bad rex
color guy: that was a train rex

Quote from: ice grillin you on September 12, 2011, 07:42:48 AM

Quote from: shorebird on September 01, 2011, 06:02:03 AM

Quote from: ice grillin you on August 31, 2011, 07:46:54 AM
double or nothing on the twenty i owe you

i get skins 6-16 wins
you get skins 1-5 wins

Thats a bet.

2 down 4 to go

Quote from: ice grillin you on August 31, 2011, 07:46:54 AM
double or nothing on the twenty i owe you

i get skins 6-16 wins
you get skins 1-5 wins

Quote from: Feva on August 21, 2011, 08:49:27 AM
taterskins >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Steelers >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Eagles

Quote from: ice grillin you on October 02, 2011, 06:56:35 PM

Quote from: ice grillin you on August 31, 2011, 07:46:54 AM
double or nothing on the twenty i owe you

i get skins 6-16 wins
you get skins 1-5 wins

three down three to go

Quote from: PhillyPhanInDC on October 24, 2011, 10:12:37 AM
This team is a train wreck. ARE YOU NOT ENTERTAINED?

Quote from: ice grillin you on October 02, 2011, 06:56:35 PM

Quote from: ice grillin you on August 31, 2011, 07:46:54 AM
double or nothing on the twenty i owe you

i get skins 6-16 wins
you get skins 1-5 wins

three down three to go

Not looking to good for IGs.

Quote
Brian Mitchell: taterskins were out-coached
By Dan Steinberg


b]Late in the taterskins broadcast on Sunday, Fox ran a graphic on the record of recent Washington coaches through 22 games. Here are the updated standings.

Jim Zorn 10-13

Joe Gibbs 10-13

Steve Spurrier 10-13

Mike Shanahan 9-14

* Marty Schottenheimer 8-8[/b]

Now, when the broadcast network points that out, you know the local sports media folks will raise the decibel level by a few points. So, here are a few of the comments I've heard about Shanahan over the past 24 hours.

Brian Mitchell on CSN: "Whether or not guys or trying or not, we can't answer that question, but on the football field, they seem outmanned, outgunned. I was asked the question last week, who I thought had the best coaches, the taterskins staff or the Buffalo Bills. I said the Buffalo Bills. You look at this game today, who was outcoached, the taterskins or the Bills? The taterskins were outcoached."

John Riggins on MASN: "They've got still games to play, and they still can exonerate themselves if you will, but boy I'm gonna tell you something, it is going to be tough. It is going to be tough. And I can't stress this enough: SO much of this is on Mike Shanahan. SO much of it, whether they can turn things around. I mean, they've done enough damage to the perceived progress that they've [made] right now with these last three games, and particularly this game today. They've gone so far backwards now."

Steve Czaban on ESPN 980: "He's making $7 million a year, and now we have three games where they've been flat, flatter and dead, in succession....It's trending the wrong way."

Mitchell: "It comes down to whether or not they're prepared. Offensively we looked anemic, we looked like a college, like a high school football team. Defensively we started off on fire, now we seem to be a laughing stock. Guys can run the ball when they feel like it. Special teams, nothing is happening. Something is going wrong. The guys either shut off the coaches or the coaches can't get 'em to go do what they want 'em to do."

Riggins: "I mean, if they keep losing, if they lose every game from here on — and there's a possibility they could, they honestly could lose every game from here on out — they finish 3-13, what do you do with Mike Shanahan? I know it's early. It's early."

Mitchell: "We're in week 7 of a season. Now I hear a coach say I'm trying to see what guys can do. Didn't he go through preseason and training camp? And say he chose the best 53 players for this team? You shouldn't still have to see what guys can do; you should know what guys can do....Did Mike Shanahan make the right decisions on the people he kept? That's the question that needs to start popping up."

Riggins: "Mike Shanahan has a full platter in front of him right now. He is overloaded with things he's going to have to do. There are so many things going on, so many problems that need to be addressed. It's going to be overwhelming. But it will really truly test him to see if he comes out on the other side. I think he's got his work seriously cut out for him."

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Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on January 02, 2012, 01:42:25 PM
Rocky McIntosh broke curfew Saturday night and tried to get away with it by stuffing his bed with pillows and blankets to make it look like he was asleep.

Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on January 02, 2012, 02:23:15 PM
All teams have curfews and stay in hotels, even in home cities, the night before games.

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Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on January 02, 2012, 01:42:25 PM
Rocky McIntosh broke curfew Saturday night and tried to get away with it by stuffing his bed with pillows and blankets to make it look like he was asleep.

That is awesome.  He's been in the league for six years, lol. 

 

Quote from: Sgt PSN on January 13, 2012, 02:17:22 PM
http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news?slug=nfp-20120112_graham_gano_broke_his_back_in_two_places

BABIN!

QuoteMunson 22 hours ago how can u play with a broken back? the nfl needs to share its drugs with the rest of the world lol

QuoteRAYMOND B. Thu Jan 12, 2012 08:41 am PST Report Abuse

    It was a dirty hit. Get better soon GANO. Sorry for my team being so crappy.

Quote from: Diomedes on January 13, 2012, 02:36:58 PM

Quote from: Sgt PSN on January 13, 2012, 02:17:22 PM
http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news?slug=nfp-20120112_graham_gano_broke_his_back_in_two_places

BABIN!

second comment down:

QuoteMunson 22 hours ago how can u play with a broken back? the nfl needs to share its drugs with the rest of the world lol

Quote from: Sgt PSN on January 13, 2012, 02:17:22 PM
http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news?slug=nfp-20120112_graham_gano_broke_his_back_in_two_places

BABIN!

Quote from: Eagaholic on January 27, 2012, 02:02:29 PM
Manning is smarter than that.

Quote from: ice grillin you on January 27, 2012, 02:32:08 PM
those rumors have floated since the colts were in the race for luck and have everything to do with danni and nothing to do with peyton manning

it been happening since like 2001 and will happen as long as danni owns the team...and that is that the skins will be "rumored" to want (fill in past his prime big name available veteran player)

Quote from: FastFreddie on January 27, 2012, 02:09:16 PM
I cannot imagine Manning signing anywhere he felt he couldn't actually take the team over the top to win something significant, and based on the offensive "weapons" in Washington... I just can't imagine:

Fred Davis
Santana Moss
Jabar Gaffney
Roy Helu
Ryan Torain
Evan Royster
Chris Cooley (might be legit dead)

But hey, good luck to him if that's what he wants.

Quote from: phattymatty on January 27, 2012, 07:47:56 PM

i agree with all of this, but every single one of those guys becomes a much better player with manning throwing to them.
also, fred davis is legit.

Quote from: Don Ho on January 28, 2012, 10:06:28 PM
At the Turtle Bay Resort for an industry function and I just saw Rob Ryan in the lobby.  Didn't know wether to flip him off for being a Cowboy or fall at his feet and start crying "Why, why you SOB?.  You could have made papa so proud.  Birds man, birds!"