Ever have a job you just hate? I mean HATE? Well I hate my job. Up at 3AM to be at work by 4am. Work all day, come home to have 3 hours (if I'm lucky) to do what needs to be done then in bed by 7 (or 9 if I have to do something else) so I can get enough sleep to be up by 3AM the next day. I have these HUGE bags under my eyes all the time now and I'm constantly drained and/or tired from these ridiculous hours. Having a social life is almost non-existent right now since when I'm not working there I'm working on computer stuff to try and get *some* use out of these degrees I have that are useless here in SA where there's no positions for what I learned how to do.
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Ok, I feel better... gotta run after a trip around the board... time's in short supply. :'(
My time schedule is different--I work 9 to 5, in reality 8 to 8--but I'm living the same miserable lifestyle. The only reason I can keep it up without killing someone is that I know I'm quitting in March '07. So I don't have the oppressive sense that this will continue forever.
If you're seeing no light at the end of the tunnel, it's time to update your resume and start looking. If it's really dire, quit. You'll be alright.
Quote from: Diomedes on March 12, 2006, 02:21:24 PM
If you're seeing no light at the end of the tunnel, it's time to update your resume and start looking. If it's really dire, quit. You'll be alright.
Working on it... planning a move to FL but not for a few more months (not before the fall I'm certain unless I hit the lotto that I don't play) so have to tough it out until then. Things should rapidly improve once I'm out of Texas since there's just no opportunity in San Antonio for me to do anything. Hate this damn state...
Well if you've already got a plan to scram, hunker down and focus on making preparations for going..it will make the days pass easier.
Might as well come up with a new screen name while you're at it. Don't be lame and change it to FloridaEagle. ;)
Quote from: TexasEagle on March 12, 2006, 02:45:11 PM
Quote from: Diomedes on March 12, 2006, 02:21:24 PM
If you're seeing no light at the end of the tunnel, it's time to update your resume and start looking. If it's really dire, quit. You'll be alright.
Working on it... planning a move to FL but not for a few more months (not before the fall I'm certain unless I hit the lotto that I don't play) so have to tough it out until then. Things should rapidly improve once I'm out of Texas since there's just no opportunity in San Antonio for me to do anything. Hate this damn state...
TE, what part of Florida?
Do you think Spadaro hates his job right now?
I think he loves it.
Quote from: TexasEagle on March 12, 2006, 02:17:23 PM
Ever have a job you just hate? I mean HATE? Well I hate my job. Up at 3AM to be at work by 4am. Work all day, come home to have 3 hours (if I'm lucky) to do what needs to be done then in bed by 7 (or 9 if I have to do something else) so I can get enough sleep to be up by 3AM the next day. I have these HUGE bags under my eyes all the time now and I'm constantly drained and/or tired from these ridiculous hours. Having a social life is almost non-existent right now since when I'm not working there I'm working on computer stuff to try and get *some* use out of these degrees I have that are useless here in SA where there's no positions for what I learned how to do.
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Ok, I feel better... gotta run after a trip around the board... time's in short supply. :'(
Now you know how I felt when I was in the Navy. Congrats on that.
Quote from: SD_Eagle on March 12, 2006, 05:23:34 PM
Now you know how I felt when I was in the Navy. Congrats on that.
I'm not sure how you came up with that one. No where in his post did TE mention anything about getting his mud nickle polished by the first mate.
Quote from: TexasEagle on March 12, 2006, 02:17:23 PM
Ever have a job you just hate? I mean HATE? Well I hate my job. Up at 3AM to be at work by 4am. Work all day, come home to have 3 hours (if I'm lucky) to do what needs to be done then in bed by 7 (or 9 if I have to do something else) so I can get enough sleep to be up by 3AM the next day. I have these HUGE bags under my eyes all the time now and I'm constantly drained and/or tired from these ridiculous hours. Having a social life is almost non-existent right now since when I'm not working there I'm working on computer stuff to try and get *some* use out of these degrees I have that are useless here in SA where there's no positions for what I learned how to do.
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Ok, I feel better... gotta run after a trip around the board... time's in short supply. :'(
what is your job? what are your Degrees in?
If you're looking for a job, RIGHT NOW, I think FA analyzer for the Eagles is available :P
Rumor has it Trenton Times Beat writer will be available shortly as well.
Quote from: SD_Eagle on March 12, 2006, 06:15:37 PM
Rumor has it Trenton Times Beat writer will be available shortly as well.
I cant wait until he has a guest spot on WIP. he will get ROASTED >:D
Quote from: Geowhizzer on March 12, 2006, 05:22:08 PM
TE, what part of Florida?
Don't have time for a big reply, need to get some sleep, but will be around Ft. Laud area... anyway, night all, hopefully I can get back on the boards before another month passes. ::)
Everyone hates their job. That's why it's called 'work' and not 'play time'.
Of course, I like my job, but you know, most people hate theirs. And I've always hated my previous jobs.
Quote from: rjs246 on March 12, 2006, 10:38:54 PM
Everyone hates their job. That's why it's called 'work' and not 'play time'.
Of course, I like my job, but you know, most people hate theirs. And I've always hated my previous jobs.
I love my job yet I hate going to work. For some reason, I'd rather debaucherize all day than actually contribute to society.
Quote from: rjs246 on March 12, 2006, 10:38:54 PMOf course, I like my job, but you know, most people hate theirs. And I've always hated my previous jobs.
i'm finally at a place that i can honestly say i love to show up to daily.
I like my job. I'm self-employed, get to make my own hours, and have only myself to answer to.
The bad thing about that is, I'm a fleshpophead, and I'm terribly critical of myself during annual review time.
Quote from: Jerome99RIP on March 13, 2006, 08:03:02 AM
I like my job. I'm self-employed, get to make my own hours, and have only myself to answer to.
The bad thing about that is, I'm a fleshpophead, and I'm terribly critical of myself during annual review time.
your company holiday party must be a real hoot
He has sex with himself on the xerox machine.
I hate my job. The people I work with are great, my boss is real nice too but I just do not feel like I fit in the company. The place I work at is not a place I see myself 5 years down the line. I am actively searching for a new job.
Thanks for the info, DavidElSexo! Check out the Asian porn!
I love my job. I can work out of home and rub one out while I'm on the phone with clients. Yay real estate! :yay
And then later you go rub one out on your clients.
I love my job. 10 blissful hours away from my wife. Heaven.
Quote from: MadMarchHare on March 13, 2006, 11:48:57 PM
I love my job. 10 blissful hours away from my wife. Heaven.
Your wife loves your job too. 10 blissful hours with the pool boy, mail man, gardener, pizza delivery guy, and the retarded kid next door.
i'm not retarded.
If you're banging my wife, you must be.
drinking as much as i have to to go through with, it could appear that way.
this has turned into the best thread ever. you guys farging crack me up!
I enjoy being out of werk a 3 and gettin paid in the summers
Quote from: Westy on March 17, 2006, 08:02:22 AM
I enjoy being out of werk a 3 and gettin paid in the summers
What the hell did you just say?
Teacher, I think. Pretty scary isn't it?
Quote from: MadMarchHare on March 17, 2006, 08:28:08 AM
Teacher, I think. Pretty scary isn't it?
i woulda guessed short bus driver...same schedule
Quote from: Wingspan on March 17, 2006, 08:56:08 AMi woulda guessed short bus rider...same schedule
i try not to do this type of stuff, but "fixed"
I have to work until 6 today. Luckily my office has three fridges stocked with beer. I should be well on my way by the time I get out of here.
how the farg are you allowed to have beer at work. farg.
My company rules. Hard.
i never knew you could become so attached to a work release program
Ha. Well everyone I farging work with is an Ivy League supergenius, so I think they try to lure the young smarties in by offering us beer and foosball. Of course I don't play foosball, so extra beer for me. It's in my contract.
i can see trying to lure supergeniuses, but janitors are a dime a dozen, why kiss your ass?
Quote from: Sun_Mo on March 17, 2006, 11:45:35 AM
how the farg are you allowed to have beer at work. farg.
It is 10 minutes to home time and I am currently drinking a glass of champagne. Nice.
C-
Pretty weak effort, Sun.
i immediately felt the same way after i posted it.
but i'm leaving in a half hour to get drunk, play poker, and watch basketball, so farg you.
Booze, poker and sports in the middle of a weekday? I hate you.
no you don't
die
my office is having hawaiian shirt day next week. i didn't know places actually did this, i thought it was just in bad movies.
Quote from: phattymatty on March 30, 2006, 03:17:08 PM
my office is having hawaiian shirt day next week. i didn't know places actually did this, i thought it was just in bad movies.
If you just called "Office Space" a bad movie, you deserve a kick to the manjunk.
(http://www.undergroundhumor.com/books/images/101usesdeadcat_large.gif)
I should have a reasonably good job. It's not far from home, the hours aren't hideous, I manage a fairly decent team of folks, I make decent money by No. NJ standards, so my wife can be home with the kid....
The thing is, I can't bring myself to give a rat's ass about the work I do. I mean, I do a good job because I don't want to be a guy who does a bad job...but at the end of the day, I really don't care. I wish I could figure out a way to care even a little bit beyond just getting paid.
I keep hearing about these people who pop up in the morning and can't wait to get to work....but I've never met these people in real life. Wish I was one of them, though.
i dont look forward to going to my job and i would retire tomorrow if i could but i love my job if that makes sense
Quote from: ice grillin you on March 31, 2006, 08:48:33 AM
i dont look forward to going to my job and i would retire tomorrow if i could but i love my job if that makes sense
I can dig it.
Zanshin - those people you hear about don't exist. They're an urban legend.
What do you guys do?
property manager for the federal government
Account manager for Aramark, love what I do, don't love the people I work with.
while i dont pop up in the morning singing the praises of work. i do enjoy my work. and i like where i work. i'm pretty much doing what i want to be doing, and i consider myself lucky for that because i didnt have to stray too far from my goals.
basically, once i am at work in the mornings, for the time being, i love where i am right now. the big three in a job are all good. the work, the people, the money.
I teach middle school (8th grade) American History, and I love it! :D
They're probably sending the paddy wagon for me right now. :crazy
Drug discovery in the field of cancer.
Drug discovery in the field of recreation.
Engineer
Technical Director, CBS 46 in Atlanta (http://www.cbs46.com).
I like what I do... and more often than not, the people I work with. This is what I went to school to do so it's cool that I'm still in this field. I've got the boss from Hell though and that shtein takes a toll.
Combat Engineer United States Army, this was something I've always wanted to do. As of right now (6 months in) I really enjoy what I am doing. Right now it is kind of jacked up because I am in a brand new unit we don't even have a motorpool or weapons yet. So my day is extremely easy and I can't complain. I won't get deployed for probably over a year and a half from now. The benefits are awesome I got $20000 to sign up I am an E-4 and my student loans will be repaid. I also am going to sign up for free lasic surgery and work on my MBA also at no expense. If it wasn't for the fact that I have one of the most dangerous jobs in the Army this would be the perfect job for me. Personally I can't think of anything better than getting to detonate explosives, drink lots of beer, and see the world.
I work for the IRS. I can't complain, they won't let me. However, I haven't worked a full week all year and I don't feel bad about that one bit.
Quote from: phillymic2000 on March 31, 2006, 10:22:55 AM
Account manager for Aramark, love what I do, don't love the people I work with.
I know thats a huge company, but they control all the food stuff here at my school. It sucks horribly. Its like $16 a meal for bad cheeseburgers and salads.
But anyway. I sued to work for this small construction company. Three office employees. My office was in the basement, no windows, damp and dark. I would rarely see anyone, could not get radio reception, and no internet. My boss had ADD, ADHD, a lazy eye and a humped back. He would scream and curse at me, and everyone else in the world. Worst job ever, thank god im not there anymore.
Quote from: thrillhouse on April 01, 2006, 12:25:51 AM
Quote from: phillymic2000 on March 31, 2006, 10:22:55 AM
Account manager for Aramark, love what I do, don't love the people I work with.
I know thats a huge company, but they control all the food stuff here at my school. It sucks horribly. Its like $16 a meal for bad cheeseburgers and salads.
But anyway. I sued to work for this small construction company. Three office employees. My office was in the basement, no windows, damp and dark. I would rarely see anyone, could not get radio reception, and no internet. My boss had ADD, ADHD, a lazy eye and a humped back. He would scream and curse at me, and everyone else in the world. Worst job ever, thank god im not there anymore.
You should join the Army! :D Seriously though the one thing that I forgot to mention about the military is that in this profession you will find that 89% are just complete retards. I have never met more IGYs, I mean idiots in my life.
Quote from: Drunkmasterflex on April 01, 2006, 03:05:24 AM
You should join the Army! :D Seriously though the one thing that I forgot to mention about the military is that in this profession you will find that 89% are just complete retards. I have never met more IGYs, I mean idiots in my life.
I know exactly what you mean. Sad, but true.
I've done a lot of different "jobs" since I've been in the Marines. I've been a grunt, been in security forces/anti-terrorism, worked in operations and training, logistics, contracting, transportation management and now recruiting. I've even held a few collateral duties such as substance abuse counselor (don't know why they call it that.....I never counselled anyone, I simply organized piss tests), been an ammo tech, range coach and CQB (Close Quarters Battle instructor). Each job had it's pros and cons but overall I've had a lot of great experiences and have learned a lot of different things and for the most part, worked with a lot of great people.
I work for the IRS. I can't complain, they won't let me. However, I haven't worked a full week all year and I don't feel bad about that one bit.
my girl is a computer programmer for the irs
neither of us has worked a five day this year either...war aws
Quote from: ice grillin you on April 01, 2006, 08:51:42 AM
I work for the IRS. I can't complain, they won't let me. However, I haven't worked a full week all year and I don't feel bad about that one bit.
my girl is a computer programmer for the irs
neither of us has worked a five day this year either...war aws
I'm not even on AWS, I'm just using up my time since I won't be back after this season.
I'm a lousy iconoclast.
I am a government contractor. I work in computer forensics. It is not nearly like what people think, like CSI or something like it. I normally only do my job when some tard does something on a computer he shouldn't have, and then says it wasn't him, or it never happened. Occasionally I get my hands on something interesting, but it is rare. When the Forensics work slacks off, I kill time by doubling as a system admin.
I only hate my job mildly at times. I work with a bunch of pretty cool guys. All former military, so there is nothing "PC" about my work environment. We play poker on the weekends, head to happy hours, and play Halo 2 online on the weekends. Could get more money in D.C, but the commute would suck donkey balls.
My job gets even better for eight weeks following May 27th. ;D
i just got a 13% raise and i've done 4 minutes of actual work this week.
in celebration i'm taking off at 12:30 and getting drunk with friends.
congrates corksucker
Quote from: phattymatty on April 21, 2006, 11:21:12 AM
in celebration i'm taking off at 12:30 and getting drunk with friends.
I'm already drunk, and, thus, I automatically win.
what do i get for working four minutes a month?
Quote from: ice grillin you on April 21, 2006, 11:27:12 AM
what do i get for working four minutes a month?
That's approximately 3 more minutes than most people.
Quote from: FFatPatt on April 21, 2006, 11:26:14 AM
I'm already drunk, and, thus, I automatically win.
if this is true, well done.
a D in the mouth
ewww?
Quote from: phattymatty on April 21, 2006, 11:30:07 AM
if this is true, well done.
Thank you sir. I was surprised how much 7 was still in that bottle. I thought it was enough for only one drink, but it was more like a double. You can't argue with a head start like that.
i'll be drunk tomorrow night, yes, that doesn't apply to my job, but unlike you cocks, i actually have shtein to get done, but also wanted to be in the drunk = cool club, therefore i am telling you about it. eat me.
Quote from: Sun_Mo on April 21, 2006, 11:34:43 AM
i'll be drunk tomorrow night, yes, that doesn't apply to my job, but unlike you cocks, i actually have shtein to get done, but also wanted to be in the drunk = cool club, therefore i am telling you about it. eat me.
You're not in any "= cool" club. Frowny. Face.
Really getting bored at work. Some of my suggestions for improvements work, but many require change which the dinosaurs I work with at the State disdain. A good example is that it wasn't until last year that our controller got e-mail. What???? Yes, I didn't make a typo.
I have resigned myself that people around here don't want to change and want to do the job the same way they have always done it. I will continue to surf the net for seven hours and put in an actual 1 hour of work a day. God, I hope I get the new full-time job with the Guard.
Quote from: Philly_Crew on May 10, 2006, 09:37:15 AMI have resigned myself that people around here don't want to change and want to do the job the same way they have always done it.
I totally understand what you're saying. If it helps, know that it's human nature for people to be that way, and you're not alone in your frustration.
Quote from: Susquehanna Birder on May 10, 2006, 10:31:42 AM
Quote from: Philly_Crew on May 10, 2006, 09:37:15 AMI have resigned myself that people around here don't want to change and want to do the job the same way they have always done it.
I totally understand what you're saying. If it helps, know that it's human nature for people to be that way, and you're not alone in your frustration.
Thanks. I do think the nice thing about profit motive is that it may motivate individuals to try to improve. The Gubment is one inefficient piece of crap. I am close to my numbing (for all you Dilbert fans).
For what it's worth, I'm in the heart of corporate hell, where the profit motive drives the company to do deeply immoral things, and they still can't manage to be halfway intelligent. Big government, big business..it's all the same.
Quote from: Diomedes on May 10, 2006, 11:34:19 AM
For what it's worth, I'm in the heart of corporate hell, where the profit motive drives the company to do deeply immoral things, and they still can't manage to be halfway intelligent. Big government, big business..it's all the same.
I dig what you and Sus are saying. Still, I made the following quote in huge letters as my wallpaper and screensaver:
"In any moment of decision, the best thing you can
do is the right thing. The worst thing you can do is
nothing. "-- Theodore Roosevelt
Maybe you should put up one like this:
(http://www.susbirder.com/demotivators/humiliation.jpg)
Quote from: Susquehanna Birder on May 10, 2006, 12:55:39 PM
Maybe you should put up one like this:
(http://www.susbirder.com/demotivators/humiliation.jpg)
Like it :yay :yay
This is mine:
(http://images.despair.com/products/demotivators/meetings.jpg)
Quote from: MadMarchHare on May 10, 2006, 02:56:54 PM
This is mine:
(http://images.despair.com/products/demotivators/meetings.jpg)
I just printed this and tacked it up outside our conference rooms. I then took an hour walk out in the city. No one noticed.
That one reminds me of this one:
(http://images.despair.com/products/demotivators/teamwork.jpg)
I love that site.
Quote from: Philly_Crew on May 10, 2006, 03:02:47 PMI just printed this and tacked it up outside our conference rooms. I then took an hour walk out in the city. No one noticed.
No one noticed the new wall hangings, or no one noticed your absence? Or both?
Quote from: Diomedes on May 10, 2006, 06:26:16 PM
Quote from: Philly_Crew on May 10, 2006, 03:02:47 PMI just printed this and tacked it up outside our conference rooms. I then took an hour walk out in the city. No one noticed.
No one noticed the new wall hangings, or no one noticed your absence? Or both?
My absence. Surprisingly, the wall hangings are still there. One guy who saw me put them up came and asked me what they meant because he didn't get it. Sadly, sometimes reality is more of a joke than any form of fictional entertainment.
Quote from: Philly_Crew on May 11, 2006, 07:20:02 AMOne guy who saw me put them up came and asked me what they meant because he didn't get it.
That's priceless. What did you tell him?
Quote from: Diomedes on May 11, 2006, 07:31:25 AM
Quote from: Philly_Crew on May 11, 2006, 07:20:02 AMOne guy who saw me put them up came and asked me what they meant because he didn't get it.
That's priceless. What did you tell him?
Nothing really. I just looked at him and he started laughing and said he has been working here too long. We then started talking about how you would get the same job rating here if you were in coma or if you had discovered the secret to world peace and alternative energy. I have a meeting at 10AM and I'm interested to see if I get any comments.
Did you guys go out after work for drinks and bitch? Maybe snuggle at a motel 6 afterwards? Hmmmmm?
Quote from: mussa on May 11, 2006, 08:43:10 AM
Did you guys go out after work for drinks and bitch? Maybe snuggle at a motel 6 afterwards? Hmmmmm?
No, just stood around and pulled each others puds then off to the bathroom for a quickie. You know, the usual.
Hey, it all pays the same, anyway.
Saw a guest reading this thread. Thought I'd say that I'm down to 85 work days left before I resign. I've been counting down since 232.
March 15, 07 my bonus pays and I give my notice. End of that March, or possibly end of April, I move to Baltimore.
Can't wait to quit this place.
You started looking for jobs yet? Given the area that you're moving to I'm sure you could gain employment on one of the many government/military facilities in the surrounding area. I think it'd be a good fit for you.
i thought you were going to spain?
i was just looking at my govt AWS schedule for 07 and from jan 2 to feb 27 i work only two mondays
i love my job
dio have you looked closer at any neighborhhods
and why are you quitting and stone cold moving to baltimore....i thought you were getting transferred...no one willingly moves to baltimore
Gubment work is the best, son. Fo rizzle.
ya heard?!
The IRS sent me my last evaluation in the mail. It was blank and unsigned.
In November I've got 2 four day weekends (Veterans Day, Turkey Day).
In December 4 days off for Xmas.
In January 4 days off for New Year's and 4 days off for MLK.
And Feb is another 4 day weekend for President's day.
That's a total of 24 days off over the next 4 months not including regular weekends off. This is the greatest time of the year to be a gubment employee.
someone has the 2nd friday off
I won't look for work until just before I leave because I can't really afford for news to worm it's way back to my company that I'm looking. The only reason I'm still at my current job is that I need to be on payroll on March 15 to be paid a bonus for my '06 performance. It's enough cash to hang on for, and it pays at about the same time my hot nurse girlfriend starts her first job..at Johns Hopkins Hospital.
I'm not worried about finding work. SAP guys have plenty of work. I've got three implementations under my belt, plenty of contacts and great recommendations. I've also got other options if I decide not to continue down the SAP path to hell.
I'm moving to Baltimore because I like it, igy. What's so hard to understand about that? I like the bay, I like the weather (except for some of those summer days...but NYC is hardly better). I like the neighborhoods. I like the country roads. It is perfectly located close to DC/PHI/NYC/BOS. It has great hospitals and medical schools for the old lady. I won't have trouble finding work. I can buy a house within a couple years, without working 70 hour weeks and signing up for a 75 year mortgage that guarantees I continue working 70 hour weeks. Etc.
re: Spain
I can't move out of the U.S. just yet. Need to kill the last of my debts, build my savings, gain more experience that I can market in another country. Then I can move to spain. Nice place, Spain. Not many Americans there.
I'm moving to Baltimore because I like it, igy. What's so hard to understand about that? I like the bay, I like the weather (except for some of those summer days...but NYC is hardly better). I like the neighborhoods. I like the country roads. It is perfectly located close to DC/PHI/NYC/BOS. It has great hospitals and medical schools for the old lady. I won't have trouble finding work. I can buy a house within a couple years, without working 70 hour weeks and signing up for a 75 year mortgage that guarantees I continue working 70 hour weeks. Etc.
translation: im moving to baltimore because my girl got a job there
i was just wondering
Baltimore is a pretty dope town and it's been rumored that I may possibly be getting orders up there in the near future...which is fine with me because I hate just about everything about where I'm at right now. And I'm not surprised Dio is moving there at all because he's mentioned his desire to live there on several other occassions (before his hot nurse ladyfriend got a job there).
Personally, I think he's moving there just to be closer to me. And I can't say that I blame him.
Baltimore is a hole. Stay in the Bronx.
baltimore is a 3rd rate version of philly....theres no reason to EVER move there
i have to go to Baltimore alot for work...i'm glad that i can leave at the end of the day
There are some pretty nice areas to live that are maybe a 30-45 minute drive away from the city. But the property values are horrendous.
Quote from: ice grillin you on October 26, 2006, 12:21:39 PMtranslation: im moving to baltimore because my girl got a job there
i was just wondering
I picked Baltimore; she's following if anyone is. I lived in MD for 7 years and I like the place. The old lady would rather go back to California, where she's from. But she was willing to do Baltimore because it has great hospitals. Working for JHH and getting a free masters from JHU is good stuff.
Also, you weren't just wondering. You were being an insulting prick. It's your thing.
Quote from: Susquehanna Birder on October 26, 2006, 12:44:28 PM
There are some pretty nice areas to live that are maybe a 30-45 minute drive away from the city. But the property values are horrendous.
I'm gonna live in the city proper and eventually buy there. There are plenty of neighborhoods in the city that I could be happy in.
Quote from: Diomedes on October 26, 2006, 02:07:49 PMWorking for JHH and getting a free masters from JHU is good stuff.
My niece did pretty much that exact same thing, but she kept going to the doctorate (in audiology). I kind of wish I had an opportunity like that. Go for it.
Its a nice town, traffic gets crazy at times but nothing like NY or Atl. Just stay out of certain area's and you'll be fine. Plus as you said, your near the bay. The Ocean City isnt far away if you guys like the beach, and your closer to philly.
and your closer to philly
or he could just move to philly and we could have north korea nuke balmer
anyway i could be wrong but i dont believe he has any connection whatsover to philly
oh and i really was just wondering.....wondering why anyone would want to move TO that city
stop being a prick...geez!
farg!
magerks is a cool eagle bar there
Wow, I forgot I even started this thread. Man that was a suckass month right there... Not that the present's much better. :'(
baltimore has some of the best syphilis i've ever seen.
baltimore has some of the best syphilis i've ever seen tasted
Did I ever tell you guys about the time Bill Brasky forced me to wear a woman's bikini around the office?
Brasky tears off my clothes and makes me wear this skimpy bikini. For the next three months I had to conduct my business wearing a woman's bathing suit.
I would cry from shame and question my manhood daily. But at the end of the quarter, I'll be damned if my sales hadn't tripled.
69 work days left before I resign
That sounds pretty sweet. A guy I work with said "no mas" a few weeks ago...now I'm stuck with managing all of his people and work in addition to mine. Awesome for him...but it sucks to be me. I don't know why it's taking so damn long to hit the Megamillions.
this monday will be the only home game monday of the season that ill have worked
i love my job
announced today that the federal govt in DC gets off tuesday for fords funeral
i LOVE my job
You decided whether you're going to wear the black suit, or the gray suit to the funeral?
Im working today...forced.. I went to bed a 5am, its now 715 and im hammerd at work :evil
If all goes to plan, I have only 39 work days left before I resign.
But there's a kink: I caught wind of an opportunity in the Baltimore area that fits like a glove, and got an interview. Today at 2 p.m. As part of the interview, I have to make a 15 minute presentation (on a topic of my choice) so they can evaluate my presentation skills. (The role is an SAP trainer position.) I'm hella nervous.
If this interview works out, I could be looking at bailing on the job sooner than 39 work days, which would make me just about the happiest cracker in town. I'd have to leave a bonus of about ten grand on the table to jet, but in the long run, that won't matter.
I hate my job--more the company than the work. The prospect of composing a letter of resignation in the next few days, rather than in a couple months, makes me pee myself a little.
I can see not hanging around for $10k if you're talking a matter of months... but weeks? Wow.
Then again, Uncle Sam and the great state of New York will take about half of it anyway.
Good luck. You might want to steer away from presenting the standard "Dio's a Misanthrope" stuff, though. The Suits might not eat that up.
Seriously, good luck. What would be better is getting them to give you a signing bonus to make up for the lost $10k. Things like that happen all the time, and it never hurts to ask.
Quote from: FFatPatt on January 19, 2007, 08:41:17 AMI can see not hanging around for $10k if you're talking a matter of months... but weeks? Wow.
Then again, Uncle Sam and the great state of New York will take about half of it anyway.
Yeah, it nets to around 5k. People who think taxes are high in a social democracy like Sweden don't live in NYC. They're awful close. If I'm not employed by my current company on March 15, then I can't get the bonus (even though it's a payout for 2006 performance). That's just part of the contract. If I have to choose between hanging out for the bonus and taking the new job, it's a no brainer. In the long run, it would be better to have a good job in the new locale than to show up jobless with some change in the bank account.
Quote from: Zanshin on January 19, 2007, 08:41:53 AM
Good luck. You might want to steer away from presenting the standard "Dio's a Misantrope" stuff, though. The Suits might not eat that up.
Seriously, good luck. What would be better is getting them to give you a signing bonus to make up for the lost $10k. Things like that happen all the time, and it never hurts to ask.
The subject of my presentation is
"Mormons, Scientologists, and Children: Scourge of Earth."Yeah, I'm going to play that angle if an offer is made. I got an SB for my current job, so i know it's possible.
Quote from: Diomedes on January 19, 2007, 08:48:47 AM
The subject of my presentation is "Mormons, Scientologists, and Children: Scourge of Earth."
Good choice. You never want to talk about controversial subject matters when applying for a job.
I like my job. I work in radio. Holla. Shoutout to all the CF homies.
Interview and presentation went very well. We'll see what happens next week.
Couple things about the job that I'm not liking, so even if they do offer, I may not take it.
Well, when you find that job where you like everything, let me know. I'll get my resume in.
Quote from: Diomedes on January 20, 2007, 10:17:58 AM
Interview and presentation went very well. We'll see what happens next week.
Couple things about the job that I'm not liking, so even if they do offer, I may not take it.
They don't allow drinking on the job or weed naps?
I get to spend time with 150 13- and 14-year olds every day, and try to teach them American History.
I love my job.
I'm freaking nuts. :paranoid
Do any of them need a date for the prom?
Quote from: Sgt PSN on January 20, 2007, 06:12:58 PM
Do any of them need a date for the prom?
Sorry, no outside guests are invited to the 8th grade celebration. ;)
What a bunch of commies!
Quote from: Zanshin on January 20, 2007, 05:00:52 PMWell, when you find that job where you like everything...
Ya, that's fine and dandy, but I'm gonna die someday, probably sooner than later, and I'm not looking to take something that makes me unhappy between now and then. Further, I don't have a child, so I'm not in the "compromise anything for the sake of the kid" mode.
They're saying 35% travel, which I think is an optimistic estimate given how aggressive their project plan is, so I'm guessing more like 50%. I'm not looking to be away from home that much.
I don't have an offer, so it's all conjecture right now.
Quote from: Diomedes on January 22, 2007, 12:00:05 PM
Quote from: Zanshin on January 20, 2007, 05:00:52 PMWell, when you find that job where you like everything...
Ya, that's fine and dandy, but I'm gonna die someday, probably sooner than later, and I'm not looking to take something that makes me unhappy between now and then. Further, I don't have a child, so I'm not in the "compromise anything for the sake of the kid" mode.
They're saying 35% travel, which I think is an optimistic estimate given how aggressive their project plan is, so I'm guessing more like 50%. I'm not looking to be away from home that much.
I don't have an offer, so it's all conjecture right now.
I was breaking your stones. I wouldn't take a job with more than 10% travel for any amount of money. Well, that's a lie. I'd take it if I could retire after a year.
Quote from: Zanshin on January 22, 2007, 01:53:38 PMI was breaking your stones.
If I weren't so touchy on the subject, I would have picked up on that. I'm pretty conflicted about the job.
Well, the only advice I can offer is to not make a decision based on money alone. I did that once, and it was a horrible decision. No job is perfect, but the trick is to make sure those inperfections aren't things of great importance to you.
All work sucks. I think the best you can do is find a balance between pay and a company full of employees that you actually enjoy being around.
I love my job. I am a farmer.
That sounds like something I could handle. I'm hating all these goddamned people, all these corporate scumbags who think their shtein don't stink. At this point, I'm willing to dig ditches just to get away from this "culture."
I travel about 25% a month, and it's usually great. Sure I have to put up with airport security, weather, delays, hotel rooms, crappy food, and wasted time.
But I don't have to spend that time with my wife.
So it works out in my favor.
Quote from: Zanshin on January 22, 2007, 02:13:36 PM
Well, the only advice I can offer is to not make a decision based on money alone. I did that once, and it was a horrible decision.
Hear, hear. I also tried this once, quit after 2 months to travel around Spain. Best decision I ever made. Over a minimum threshold, money don't mean shtein. You just spend more.
Quote from: Father Demon on January 22, 2007, 03:27:06 PM
I travel about 25% a month, and it's usually great. Sure I have to put up with airport security, weather, delays, hotel rooms, crappy food, and wasted time.
But I don't have to spend that time with my wife.
So it works out in my favor.
It works well for me too. :P
Quote from: Diomedes on January 22, 2007, 02:33:41 PM
That sounds like something I could handle. I'm hating all these goddamned people, all these corporate scumbags who think their shtein don't stink. At this point, I'm willing to dig ditches just to get away from this "culture."
Have you watched Office Space recently?
Started the new "job" today. Of course it's not a job, it's an internship and I don't get paid anything. It's at a small newspaper in South Philly, I do little things like transcribe letters and write a small blurb about the food recipe of the month.
One thing interesting is the grammar in these letters. Just amazing how uneducated some people are. I mean, I'm an idiot. But there are people out there who send in these illeterate letters. I should foward them to rjs so he can get the grammar police on their asses.
Quote from: MDS on January 23, 2007, 01:17:17 AM
Started the new "job" today. Of course it's not a job, it's an internship and I don't get paid anything. It's at a small newspaper in South Philly, I do little things like transcribe letters and write a small blurb about the food recipe of the month.
One thing interesting is the grammar in these letters. Just amazing how uneducated some people are. I mean, I'm an idiot. But there are people out there who send in these illeterate letters. I should foward them to rjs so he can get the grammar police on their asses.
"Food recipie" of the month? You're a college student. What are you going to write about? 1,000 ways of cooking Spaghettios and Ramen noodles?
Quote from: MDS on January 23, 2007, 01:17:17 AM
Just amazing how uneducated some people are. But there are people out there who send in these illeterate letters.
Awesome.
Geo- Readers send in recipes, I combine that with one from some website and right up a 100ish word intro. Nothing big.
Sassy- Well done.
How exactly does it surprise you that the kind of person who is submitting recipes to this dinky paper happens to be illiterate? Plain as day to me....they're submitting farging recipes to a stupid newspaper!!
no actually its the people writing letters that cant actually write.
its like a little community paper, people do those types of things.
when you're submerged in this kind of crap all day, is it any wonder you might hate your job?
QuoteHello Future Trend Setters!
As [the new CEO] mentioned at the re-organization meeting, part of the new structure will consist of a committee called C-Trends. I'm absolutely thrilled to have the opportunity to develop a creative, productive and insightful team. Since something like this doesn't currently exist at [the company], we really have an opportunity to do something unique.
Some of you have expressed interest already and I thank you very much for your enthusiasm! Ideally, this committee will consist of at least one person from each region coupled with 6 or 7 additional "experts". I will be asking things of you that may or may not fall outside of your normal job. We will have a great deal of fun, but there will be work to do as well. Therefore, please join if you truly have something to add and the time to dedicate to meeting our objectives.
I'd like to schedule our first meeting quickly, so we can begin to take shape and start on our journey. Please review the attached information and contact me as soon as possible. Additionally, please let me know what you're passionate about and what your area of expertise is . Are you a world traveller, a fashionista or a techie? Perhaps you're a film buff, a foodie or a voracious reader? Maybe you're obsessed with art or music and you get invited to every club opening? Or you're just tapped in somehow and you have ideas to share.
The final C-Trend Committee roster will be sent out on completion.
I look forward to hearing from you and building an innovative, exciting, creative team!
The count is down to 31 work days left before I resign. Can't happen soon enough.
Quote from: Diomedes on January 31, 2007, 11:48:56 AM
QuoteHello Future Trend Setters!
As [the new CEO] mentioned at the re-organization meeting, part of the new structure will consist of a committee called C-Trends. I'm absolutely thrilled to have the opportunity to develop a creative, productive and insightful team. Since something like this doesn't currently exist at [the company], we really have an opportunity to do something unique.
Some of you have expressed interest already and I thank you very much for your enthusiasm! Ideally, this committee will consist of at least one person from each region coupled with 6 or 7 additional "experts". I will be asking things of you that may or may not fall outside of your normal job. We will have a great deal of fun, but there will be work to do as well. Therefore, please join if you truly have something to add and the time to dedicate to meeting our objectives.
I'd like to schedule our first meeting quickly, so we can begin to take shape and start on our journey. Please review the attached information and contact me as soon as possible. Additionally, please let me know what you're passionate about and what your area of expertise is . Are you a world traveller, a fashionista or a techie? Perhaps you're a film buff, a foodie or a voracious reader? Maybe you're obsessed with art or music and you get invited to every club opening? Or you're just tapped in somehow and you have ideas to share.
The final C-Trend Committee roster will be sent out on completion.
I look forward to hearing from you and building an innovative, exciting, creative team!
The exclamation points alone make me want to hit someone with projectile vomit.
QuoteI will be asking things of you that may or may not fall outside of your normal job.
Sounds like something that involves kneepads.
That's essentially what this bitch is up to, but she's doing it by email to the whole company rather than with the CEO behind closed doors, like a discreet corporate whore ought.
Ya, so you read the email above about the spiffy new committee? Well, here's a reply she got today. The idiot copied all.
QuoteHi [Jane Doe]
This sounds like a tremendous committee. I was born and raised in DC, lived out west in San Francisco and Scottsdale and now call Chicago home. I have been in the restaurant business for 16 years, I am a sommelier and love to travel. I have too many hobbies to mention. What I have that may be must prudent are fabulous contacts all over the world. Let me know how I can help.
Anxiously, Excitedly and Triumphantly Yours,
[John Doe]
Yes, the guy with the long-winded phone messages
I couldn't make this shtein up.
23 work days until I resign. 10 more after that. If I can manage not to punch someone in the face.
The "John" Doe that wrote that note sounds to be an expert sperm sommelier.
On the one hand, playing Warfish against you people makes me feeling like the dumbest motherfarger in the world.
On the other hand, this guy somehow holds down a job. What a goddamned moron. Look up prudent, dickface. Learn how not to copy the whole company on your reply. farg.
So I guess I'll be alright, even if I am still damn near the dumbest motherfarger in the world.
So I got promoted which means at least I'll make more money taking it from the man.
I'm excited to start a new C-Trend comittee!
On Friday our entire department (25 people) was rushed into the board room first thing. HR came around and got each of us and told us we were wanted in the board room. People weren't allowed to finish emails or even phone calls. HR told us we had to get up and go into the board room. We got there to find only each other..no management.
This room is glass walled on two sides with expensive curtains. Each time a new person was brought into the room, the HR girls pulled the curtains past the door so we couldn't see out. We asked what was up and they told us they didn't know, were asked to bring us in and have us wait until our bosses came with some kind of announcement.
30 minutes pass. I'm making jokes about being gassed like Jews in the holocaust, and HR is appalled that I could be so cynical, but the people are with me, not them. It's creepy, being held in a room with no info and all..of course they think I make more sense than the HR bitches. At one point, on woman got up and pulled the curtain to look out and was told to let go the curtain and take a seat. We weren't allowed to leave the room.
It was farging bizarre.
Eventually, in comes the CEO with the VPs and Directors. He announces that our boss--the COO--has stepped down to work directly with the executive team and this new guy will be guiding the IT/Operations/Pricing/Master Data groups. The outgoing COO is not present, though we all know he showed up for work that morning.
They must have walked him out of the building or something, because when they finally let us out, he's gone, and hasn't been back since.
I hate these people.
maybe he was walked out in cuffs Dio, if thats the case, it will be in the paper i would think.
He wasn't arrested. He was a corporate snake who got eaten by a bigger corporate snake.
oh the drama!! what a shtein place to work and be treated. corporate scum written all over it.
So basically, you and everyone else had their work day interrupted without explanation so that some overpaid corporate pole smoker could gather his shtein and leave without the embarrassment of being seen by the worker bees.
Yeah, with the added benefit of intimidating the workers by putting them all in a room from which they couldn't leave or see anything.
You should gather everyone else that was held captive with you and sue for mental anguish or something. Try claiming that a hostile working environment was created and you were subjected to sever mental trauma. If you want the big bucks, try claiming Stockholm Syndrome and say that life outside of the glass box is scary and hard to cope with.
I should have walked out of the room, the office, and the whole place is what I should have done. If I had any dignity. But I'm hanging on for the bonus, so I cracked snide jokes about how well managed the company is instead, and cried myself to sleep about what a weak piece of trash I am.
You know, a normal day.
:-D
Today my boss sent out an announcement that he's retiring the middle of next month. Crap. He's one of the few people that made me want to stay in this semi-dead-end job. I was forced away from here quite a few years back, and we both schemed and planned on how to get me back here.
I'm sure that some self-important butthole will start running the department, and I won't have anywhere near the freedom that I have now...and I'll be ready to leave.
:boom
I have back to back days of all day training, from my home office. 8 hours of steaming video from the HQ, complete with 13 topics and speakers. Today is a 116 page powerpoint deck, with probably the same type thing tomorrow.
Oh yeah. Each day is followed by a test, in which passing is required or else you get put "on plan".
I have a difficult enough time with my job due to my ADD as it is. This might just kill me.
Quote from: Susquehanna Birder on March 05, 2007, 12:19:20 PM
Today my boss sent out an announcement that he's retiring the middle of next month. Crap. He's one of the few people that made me want to stay in this semi-dead-end job. I was forced away from here quite a few years back, and we both schemed and planned on how to get me back here.
I'm sure that some self-important butthole will start running the department, and I won't have anywhere near the freedom that I have now...and I'll be ready to leave.
:boom
You should put in for his job, Sus.
Maybe he doesn't want to be the boss? I'd want nothing to do with having my boss' job.
Could be. In some jobs I wouldn't want to be the HMFIC either. But money is the equalizer of all...pay me enough and I'll deal with anything.
Not me. I make enough money. I'm never gonna get rich off a salary, so I really don't care about getting the bigger title, crazy hours, huge stress, for another lousy 20 grand.
My bosses' hours and stress aren't any worse than mine, and they both probably make roughly twice what I make.
I'd take it, but money only motivates for so long. I really need a complete change of pace.
Time is what I care most about. I'm not gonna be laying there on my deathbed thinking...I'm glad I worked late all those years.
Quote from: Diomedes on March 05, 2007, 12:54:51 PM
Time is what I care most about. I'm not gonna be laying there on my deathbed thinking...I'm glad I worked late all those years.
Bingo.
Frankly, his job is two levels above mine, so I can't get there from here. Part of the PITA with him leaving is that we had an understanding that I "officially" report to one of the supervisors, but I actually work for him (the department manager). It was cool because he wouldn't question what I was doing, and in return, I would come up with nifty-cool stuff that made him (and the whole group) look good.
But like you said, Dio, I would have no desire for the job, even if it were possible. I'm content with doing my thing and not having to deal with all the sniveling numbskulls that parade in and out of his office on a daily basis.
I log on my computer this morning and see an email titled "STD Jeopardy." Looks like it's time for my annual AIDS training. w00t!
QuoteGood morning ladies and gentlemen,
No need to adjust your computer screen as the subject line does in fact read "STD Jeopardy". In order to complete the annual training requirement as set forth in MCO P1700.29, S-3 will be facilitating information in regards to STDs including HIV/AIDS, using a game show style format. As usual, the scheduled times for this PME will be 0900 and 1300 on March 8th and 9th and yours truly will be doing his best to keep up with Alex Trebek. Marines from HQ Co will square off against Marines from SVC Co in a stunning battle of wit. S-3 will have some prizes to give away to those who distinguish themselves during the PME. We invite you to come refresh your knowledge or maybe learn something new in regards to STDs.
ha!
Not counting today, only three more work days until I resign. The movers come tomorrow and drop off at my new place in Baltimore on Friday, so I've got both of those days off.
I'll still be in the job through March, staying with friends while my old lady gets the house together in Mob Town. But I won't have to pretend I give a damn about it anymore.
thats great Dio, you dont have to deal with setting up the place. Hopefully the walls arent pink when you show up, but that probably saves you from a couple of fights.
You have anything new lined up, or will you play it by ear for a bit? (that's my vote).
In other news, I was not the winner from New Jersey for the $370 million. Understandably, I'm both shocked and depressed about it.
I can work immediately as a laborer/apprentice carpenter with either of a couple friends who have already offered, and will probably do that at first. In fact, I may do that for permanent, and leave the office behind. I hate these people with a dangerous passion. They are for the most part a bunch of worthless scumbags. The line workers are normal folks, but with each level up the hierarchy you go, the people get worse and worse. I don't want to be around them or answer to them anymore. It's one thing to opt out of consumerist corporate culture in your life, but so long as you work for one of those places, you're still part of the problem. I'm ashamed to tell my friends what I do and who I work for, and that's not good for mental health.
My old lady is a Nurse..between her salary and whatever I make on my own we'll be fine. But no, I don't really know what I'm going to do. Eventually, I'll have my own business again...I was once the proprietor of a small service company that did very well until I got bored of it and sold. Never realized what I had going or how much I loved it. So maybe after a few years learning an actual trade, I can set myself up again.
I'm practically quivering in anticipation of getting out of this office. I remember the countdown number being 232. Today, it's 3.
That has to feel amazing. Good luck. I'm jealous, but not in a sinister way.
good stuff Dio, do what you love man. :yay :yay
Dio = (http://www.insidepulse.com/columnImages/image13147.jpg)
i was thinking more along the lines of = (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v101/ananumuss/preview14.jpg)
So, Dio...how'd the resignation go? Was it everything you'd hoped it would be?
Haven't made it yet. Bonus deposit has been made, but I'm waiting until it's fully cleared...as I understand it, Direct Depositors have a window during which they can pull back an deposit. The money is mine by rights, but these motherfargers are capable of anything. So I'm waiting a day or two.
The waiting is killing me...
I did however write the letter. Very simple, not trying to make some kind of point. The timing says enough.
Dio, once the money's in there they cant take it back. Hell get the cash or transfer it into another checking. Either way congrats for making it to this point
Call it paranoia then, but I've been told they have the ability to reverse a deposit within a certain time period. Until I see it has fully cleared into my account, and is no longer in "pending" status, I'm sitting tight.
Thanks. It's a miracle on the order of virgin birth I haven't blown up so far.
Just yesterday we had our yearly reviews. I got a "meets expectations," which modifies my bonus payout by -4%. That's right...I met expectations, and was rewarded for that by getting only 96% of my bonus. It's not a material amount, and I don't really care because I'm leaving, but it's still insulting. I busted my balls last year implementing SAP, working all kinds of late nights and weekends, etc. Scumbags.
Sounds like a charming group.
And you are right about reversing the direct deposit. The window is 5 banking days. Probably the best thing to do is to stash the money in another account (if you can). Then if they try to do the reversal, it won't be there...and they'll have to try and get their money through other legal measures.
Quote from: Diomedes on March 15, 2007, 10:26:59 AM
Thanks. It's a miracle on the order of virgin birth I haven't blown up so far.
Ha! That actually made me LOL.
I know exactly how you feel. I did what you are about to do 6 weeks ago and loved every second of it. I hope you do to!
Quote from: Diomedes on March 15, 2007, 10:26:59 AM
Call it paranoia then, but I've been told they have the ability to reverse a deposit within a certain time period. Until I see it has fully cleared into my account, and is no longer in "pending" status, I'm sitting tight.
Thanks. It's a miracle on the order of virgin birth I haven't blown up so far.
Just yesterday we had our yearly reviews. I got a "meets expectations," which modifies my bonus payout by -4%. That's right...I met expectations, and was rewarded for that by getting only 96% of my bonus. It's not a material amount, and I don't really care because I'm leaving, but it's still insulting. I busted my balls last year implementing SAP, working all kinds of late nights and weekends, posting on this message board and playing online chess. Scumbags.
Meanwhile.........my parade just got pissed on and I was told that I am
not going to be moving back up to Philly. Civilian life sounds a little better and better with each passing day. The job security may not be there and the benefits may not be as great to start out but at least it puts me back in control of my life again.
Don't kid yourself. There is no control of your own life as long as long as you need to work.
I think I'm gonna quit today. Others have done so as well...there is no way they can get away with taking my money..no way they actually reverse the withdrawal.
Quote from: Diomedes on March 15, 2007, 12:30:13 PM
I think I'm gonna quit today. Others have done so as well...there is no way they can get away with taking my money..no way they actually reverse the withdrawal.
Enjoy yourself.
I've been waiting long enough..I don't think I can bear two more days.
just do stuff that Jim does to Dwight in the Office. Phone in jello is a good start.
Quote from: MURP on March 15, 2007, 12:58:14 PM
just do stuff that Jim does to Dwight in the Office. Phone in jello is a good start.
My favorite was sending him faxes from "future Dwight".
Quote from: Father Demon on March 15, 2007, 12:27:53 PM
Don't kid yourself. There is no control of your own life as long as long as you need to work.
Wise words, indeed.
Quote from: Father Demon on March 15, 2007, 12:27:53 PM
Don't kid yourself. There is no control of your own life as long as long as you need to work.
True. But at least I'm free to apply for work anywhere I want. And whenever I get sick of one job I can always apply for another.
Quote from: Diomedes on March 15, 2007, 12:30:13 PM
I think I'm gonna quit today. Others have done so as well...there is no way they can get away with taking my money..no way they actually reverse the withdrawal.
If it'll help any, you can transfer the $$ into my account and I'll, uh, hold it for you.
Dio should take a mini-camcorder into his boss's office when he quits.
A buddy of mine did that so there would be no disputing the circumstances of his resignation. His boss went apeshtein and threatened him even though he was standing there with a video camera in his hand.
I envy you, Dio. I'd love to quit my job. I'm sick to death of the real estate business not to mention the assorted shteinbags I have to deal with on a daily basis.
Have fun, man. :yay
I'm still waffling about when to do it. I can't believe they'd withdraw the money...I've got a contract that says in plain english that it's my money...and they put it into the account. And other people have quit since the bonus paid / in the last 24 hours...
make em sweat it out dio, then hit them when it hurts
Well I've got to give them two weeks notice at the minimum. So that means no later than first thing monday morning.
Which is still within 5 banking days window for withdrawing the direct deposit.
So I suppose I might as well drop the bomb now as later.
So I quit. And it went fine. No drama, nothing special. Tomorrow will be interesting, as word gets around that I resigned, and as I can stop pretending I give a shtein.
Congrats. Hardest part is over with.
Thanks. Now I take a victory lap.
Cool. Enjoy.
I hope you're a few gin & tonics deep by now.
Congrats, man. I just did the same thing a little more than a month ago and it still brings a smile to my face to think about when I said those two beautiful words, "I'm resigning."
I said "I quit!" with a shtein eating grin on my face.
Congrats, Dio. I've only quit one job because I hated it so much. Hated my boss with a passion.
During an arguement, he told me "Maybe I'll make this easy, and just fire you." I answered "I've been fired from better that this. I'll save you the trouble -- I quit."
Then I complained to HR about his unfair tactics, and they paid me two weeks pay in lieu to help me go away quiet.
Gary Zimmerman can kiss my fat ass.
Quote from: Father Demon on March 15, 2007, 09:29:27 PM
Gary Zimmerman can kiss my fat ass.
All Pro lineman that played for the Broncos and Vikings? That guy?
It must be quite an empowering feeling, Dio. Congrats. I'm jealous, dammit.
I don't feel empowered. Just sort of freed. Don't know how the hell I'm gonna support myself, but I'm glad to hell to be done with these people.
Quote from: Father Demon on March 15, 2007, 09:29:27 PM
Congrats, Dio. I've only quit one job because I hated it so much. Hated my boss with a passion.
During an arguement, he told me "Maybe I'll make this easy, and just fire you." I answered "I've been fired from better that this. I'll save you the trouble -- I quit."
Then I complained to HR about his unfair tactics, and they paid me two weeks pay in lieu to help me go away quiet.
Gary Zimmerman can kiss my fat ass.
I remember that prick!
Quote from: Father Demon on March 15, 2007, 09:29:27 PM
During an arguement, he told me "Maybe I'll make this easy, and just fire you." I answered "I've been fired from better that this. I'll save you the trouble -- I quit."
And that's when you crawled out from under his desk?
Quote from: Diomedes on March 15, 2007, 10:03:59 PM
Don't know how the hell I'm gonna support myself
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Congrats Dio :yay
Quote from: Diomedes on March 15, 2007, 10:03:59 PM
Don't know how the hell I'm gonna support myself...
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Fred Garvin Judas Diomedes, male prostitute.
QuoteDon't know how the hell I'm gonna support myself
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or
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with whatever SAP experience you have, it should be a good "in" for whatever company you decide to hook up with next....just don't be looking for my SAP (crap) job.
ps: congrats for having the cahones to pull the "i quit" trigger.
Nobody in their right mind should look for a SAP job.
^^^
true talk
When you have an "I Hate My Job" day, try this. On your way home from work, stop at your pharmacy and go to the thermometer section and purchase a rectal thermometer made by Johnson &Johnson.?? Be very sure you get this brand.
When you get home, lock your doors, draw the curtains and disconnect the phone so you will not be disturbed. Change into nice comfortable clothing and sit in your favorite chair. Open the package and remove the thermometer.
Now, carefully place it on a table or a surface so that it will not become chipped or broken. Now the fun part begins. Take out the literature and read it carefully. You will notice in small print there is a statement, "Every Rectal Thermometer made by Johnson & Johnson is personally tested". Now, close your eyes and repeat out loud five times, "I am so glad I do not work in the Thermometer quality control at Johnson & Johnson
THERE IS ALWAYS SOMEONE ELSE WITH A JOB THAT IS MORE OF A PAIN IN THE ASS THAN YOURS.
Quote from: General_Failure on March 16, 2007, 10:03:55 AM
Nobody in their right mind should look for a SAP job.
that's why we are called SAPs, duh.
Quote from: Eagles 3x on March 16, 2007, 11:49:09 AM
When you have an "I Hate My Job" day, try this. On your way home from work, stop at your pharmacy and go to the thermometer section and purchase a rectal thermometer made by Johnson &Johnson.?? Be very sure you get this brand.
When you get home, lock your doors, draw the curtains and disconnect the phone so you will not be disturbed. Change into nice comfortable clothing and sit in your favorite chair. Open the package and remove the thermometer.
Now, carefully place it on a table or a surface so that it will not become chipped or broken. Now the fun part begins. Take out the literature and read it carefully. You will notice in small print there is a statement, "Every Rectal Thermometer made by Johnson & Johnson is personally tested". Now, close your eyes and repeat out loud five times, "I am so glad I do not work in the Thermometer quality control at Johnson & Johnson
THERE IS ALWAYS SOMEONE ELSE WITH A JOB THAT IS MORE OF A PAIN IN THE ASS THAN YOURS.
Thanks for posting your e-mail forwards on this board.
Quote from: Diomedes on March 15, 2007, 10:03:59 PM
I don't feel empowered. Just sort of freed. Don't know how the hell I'm gonna support myself, but I'm glad to hell to be done with these people.
I assume you are just watching ESPN, NFL channel, etc and drinking 24/7...at least for a few more days...till the bonus $ runs out.
Dio freakin out at his last day on the job...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z45sAYCObjk
I just submitted to take a week of vacation and on the request forms we have to sign this "statement of understanding" before our leave request can be approved:
QuoteI recognize the contribution I make to my fellow Marines, Sailors, and Civilian Marines of my unit, my brothers and sisters throughout the Marine Corps, and the Marines and Sailors deployed in defense of freedom around the world. Essential to our mission, I pledge to maintain my commitment with a constant display of honor and professionalism. I will plan ahead, minimize risks to my safety and return from leave prepared to continue "the fight."
Awesome.
haha...thats great
Translation:
QuoteI recognize that herpes is preferable to the AIDS and that therefore, after traipsing around the world and sleeping with barskanks, the contribution I make to my fellow Marines, Sailors, and Civilian Marines of my unit, my brothers and sisters throughout the Marine Corps, and the Marines and Sailors deployed in defense of freedom around the world should be one of dull herpes itch, rather than emaciating AIDS death. I'll pick my skanks carefully. Essential to our mission, I pledge to maintain my commitment with a constant display of honor, alcoholism, bar-fighting prowess and headbutting. I will plan ahead, until I am too drunk to do so. I will minimize risks to my safety, although this is not a concern since I am a Marine and impervious to the physical ramifications of my actions while on leave. And finally, I will return from leave prepared to continue "the fight" and face any and all paternity proceedings like a man.
I'm stuck in Milan all week for a meeting I have next to no role at. I've been out of my room since 6:30 am, and I just got back from a four-hour dinner with a bunch of drunk corporate dudes at 11:30 pm. I'm beat, and I miss my family. Milan, by the way, is sort of a dirtier New York, but with more graffiti and beggers. Of course, I'll get back over the weekend, try to recover from the jet lag...and I'll get back to the office and have to catch up on everything I missed this week. And everyone back at the office will think I had some sort of awesome vacation abroad, and be relentless in wanting even more crap.
Road trip to La Salle this weekend. Exciting.
I have two more days to show up at work. Then I'm free.
Quote from: Diomedes on March 28, 2007, 06:14:36 PM
I have two more days to show up at work. Then I'm free.
why not take each day with an 8-hour lunch. just make sure the last paycheck will clear.
I drank four or five glasses of champagne and a nice snifter of Grand Marnier at lunch today, returned to the office for a shot of palenka, and then promplty left.
yesterday I was taken to lunch. today, literally breakfast lunch and dinner (for which I'm preparing with a nice toke as I type) and tomorrow for lunch, after which I will be drunk and quit early on my last day.
farg work.
Quote from: Diomedes on March 29, 2007, 05:05:54 PM
I drank four or five glasses of champagne and a nice snifter of Grand Marnier at lunch today, returned to the office for a shot of palenka, and then promplty left.
yesterday I was taken to lunch. today, literally breakfast lunch and dinner (for which I'm preparing with a nice toke as I type) and tomorrow for lunch, after which I will be drunk and quit early on my last day.
farg work.
sounds like a great place, with caring co-workers....can't figure out why you wanna leave?? :-D
Congrats Dio. You farging jerk.
Last day Holla!!
Try to not get a DUI on the way home.
Quote from: Susquehanna Birder on March 30, 2007, 09:56:24 AM
Try to not get a DUI on the way home.
Getting a DUI on the subway would be awesome.
I am tired of having people gunning for my job and trying to make me look bad.
Quote from: Seabiscuit36 on April 02, 2007, 11:49:43 AM
I am tired of having people gunning for my job and trying to make me look bad.
Then your only option is to get a job that no one else wants. There are plenty of jobs out there that require long hours and pay minimum wage with crappy/no benefits and/or no bump for overtime.
I hear ya, i was out of the office friday and found today some of the crap going on, it just annoys the hell out of me
I found out last week that office is for certain being shut down.....likely nlt June/July. Decision time is rapidly approaching as to whether I stay or get out.
Quote from: Sgt PSN on April 02, 2007, 12:24:27 PM
I found out last week that office is for certain being shut down.....likely nlt June/July. Decision time is rapidly approaching as to whether I stay or get out.
Out.
Move near Seabiscuit, steal his job, bang his wife, and continually park yourself in front of his TV in the basement.
Sold.
ha,,, you can keep the dog while your at it
Yeah, we already said I can have your wife dude. Try and keep up.
C-
Quote from: Sgt PSN on April 02, 2007, 05:42:11 PM
Yeah, we already said I can have your wife dude. Try and keep up.
More like a D+...By the way she has the Aids, have fun with that
We're going to throw a couples only Swingers AIDS party.
Quote from: Sgt PSN on April 02, 2007, 08:07:41 PM
My bloodwork came back positive for AIDS today. I completely skipped the HIV stage.
Dio?? (http://www.snopes.com/embarrass/email/leaving.asp)
Quote from: Father Demon on April 07, 2007, 11:37:11 PM
Dio?? (http://www.snopes.com/embarrass/email/leaving.asp)
Couldn't be. Dio would never lower himself to apologizing for anything.
Well, I got my (un)official notice today that I have lost my job. I got a heads-up from my meatciclehead boss, even though they are still working out the details in HR and such.
A company in Denver bought the company I worked for late 2006. I was one of the ones that got to keep my job, even though they shut down the St. Louis office. But that really has nothing to do with why I lost my job.
I'm a sales engineer, which means I work with pre-sales opportunities, and get paid on closed deals. Because my group was an overlay group, there was never a real place to put us in the SE organization so I bounced around through 4 groups and 4 bosses in the past year. During my stay with my most recent boss, the company finally got us on a real target plan that paid me on my deals, rather than paying me for the overall revenue company wide. What happened was, they had to re-classify existing revenue into my revenue bucket, so I could get paid on it. But, because they took the revenue from other groups, they had their commission withdrawn to give it to me. Sucks for them, but they were getting paid on my work and my deals so it was never a fair policy from the get-go. It hit my boss' wallet, and he didn't like that. So, he started making waves about me and where I belonged, which led to me being RIF'd.
There is still about a 5% chance I get a job elsewhere in the company, but I'm not interested in it. They've farged me enough over the last year, that I'm not freaking moving for them. I might move for someone else, but not for a lateral move within this damned place.
It should be official next week that my last day is August 3rd. It's a decent severance package (about 6 months pay), and I've been looking over my shoulder for over a year, so this is really a big relief. Not that it doesn't suck, but a relief anyway. Feels like a huge weight off my shoulders.
Looking for a new job sucks ass.
Oh, and, I'm going to be adding to my beer list this weekend. No doubt.
Sorry to hear that. Or not. Depending on how it pans out.
Sorry to hear that, Demon. I start a new job Monday. It took quite a while to find a new/better gig, but I was working full-time during my search. It might be easier if you have more time to dedicate to a job search... especially if you're still getting paid for 6 months.
Quote from: Zanshin on July 13, 2007, 03:46:44 PM
Sorry to hear that. Or not. Depending on how it pans out.
very true
getting laid off is a horrible feeling...and scary...i was laid off by 3Com a few years back when the tech boom started dying off...but it led to me getting a fed govt job which is pretty much the greatest thing thats ever happened in my life
Demon, this should have been posted in the "My job hates me!" thread.
Quote from: ice grillin you on July 13, 2007, 04:12:49 PM
i was laid off by 3Com a few years back
Heh. A good friend of mine JUST got laid off from them a few months back. I remember when I first met her about 4 years ago, I was surprised to find out 3Com was still in business. They got totally kicked to shtein by other networking companies.
Good luck, Demon. Just make sure to wear your KISS makeup and Zubaz to all job interviews, and you'll be employed in no time.
One thing I forgot to mention, and I'm looking for smart people to help me out. On July 2nd, I was part of a company wide "reclassification" which in effect cut my total compensation by $8K a year. That cut affects my severance package by about $2K.
There has to be something in the law that protects an employee from getting a pay cut immeidately before a RIF. I mean, why not just make me a janitor making $14K a year and pay my severance based on that?
I'm digging through Google, but if any one is bored.........
Quote from: Father Demon on July 13, 2007, 05:05:59 PM
One thing I forgot to mention, and I'm looking for smart people to help me out. On July 2nd, I was part of a company wide "reclassification" which in effect cut my total compensation by $8K a year. That cut affects my severance package by about $2K.
There has to be something in the law that protects an employee from getting a pay cut immeidately before a RIF. I mean, why not just make me a janitor making $14K a year and pay my severance based on that?
I'm digging through Google, but if any one is bored.........
You probably aren't part of a union. Any employment contract or completely at-will? I got promoted at work and it is starting to seem much better around here. I hope everything works out for you Demon but it sounds like you have enough skills to bounce back quickly.
Sarge-what's the latest?
Fast Freddie-what's the new job?
Well, here's a new twist. My present company offered me a new job, doing the same exact thing for a different business market, and it's located in St. Louis at the same pay. And it's with a former boss I had that I really like working for.
The down side is that I will still work for the same VP that was willing to toss my career aside to win a political pissing contest, and now I have to pretend I'm so gracious for him saving my job. I had mentally already accepted that I was gone, and it was a huge relief. Now, if I turn down the new job they just offered me, it's a resignation, and I am not eligible for a severance package.
Good news - I have a job with an OK company.
Bad news - I wanted to start fresh somewhere else, and use that package as a nice little investment.
Life sure is funny, isn't it?
well you could always say farg it and become an apprentice cabinetmaker
My new job blocks AIM and monitors internet access fairly strictly, from what I've heard.
Thusly, I will be indirectly complying with Dio's repeated requests for me to post less. I'll expect others to carry the torch to annoy the ____ out of him.
Quote from: FastFreddie on July 18, 2007, 01:49:32 PM
Thusly, I will be indirectly complying with Dio's repeated requests for me to post less. I'll expect others to carry the torch to annoy the baby jesus out of him.
Quote from: Philly Crew on July 18, 2007, 12:40:07 PM
Sarge-what's the latest?
I was supposed to officially detach from my unit in NC this passed Monday but something got screwed up with my reenlistment paperwork so I'm still part of recruiting for a few more days. It actually worked out in my favor because my original plan was to detach on 16 Jul and be on leave for 2 weeks before showing up to KC. But now that I have to wait, I'm saving up those vacation days but I don't have a job to do here. Actually, I havent' had any actual work to do in over a month. And for the last 2 weeks I've been calling in in the morning to check in and that's it. It's basically like I've been on vacation for the last few weeks.
Quote from: FastFreddie on July 18, 2007, 01:49:32 PM
My new job blocks AIM and monitors internet access fairly strictly, from what I've heard.
Thusly, I will be indirectly complying with Dio's repeated requests for me to post less. I'll expect others to carry the torch to annoy the ____ out of him.
sweet jesus, there is a GOD!!!
Quote from: Sgt PSN on July 18, 2007, 03:43:47 PM
Quote from: Philly Crew on July 18, 2007, 12:40:07 PM
Sarge-what's the latest?
I was supposed to officially detach from my unit in NC this passed Monday but something got screwed up with my reenlistment paperwork so I'm still part of recruiting for a few more days. It actually worked out in my favor because my original plan was to detach on 16 Jul and be on leave for 2 weeks before showing up to KC. But now that I have to wait, I'm saving up those vacation days but I don't have a job to do here. Actually, I havent' had any actual work to do in over a month. And for the last 2 weeks I've been calling in in the morning to check in and that's it. It's basically like I've been on vacation for the last few weeks.
So you're heading back to KC with the corps or did I miss something?
Quote from: FastFreddie on July 18, 2007, 01:49:32 PM
My new job blocks AIM and monitors internet access fairly strictly, from what I've heard.
Thusly, I will be indirectly complying with Dio's repeated requests for me to post less. I'll expect others to carry the torch to annoy the ____ out of him.
Good luck. Shall I start the thread on the merits of the Catholic church or the honor of serving your country in the armed forces?
The latter would probably work out best.
Agreed.
If I had to be Christian, I'd be Catholic.
Quote from: Philly Crew on July 18, 2007, 04:44:40 PM
Quote from: Sgt PSN on July 18, 2007, 03:43:47 PM
Quote from: Philly Crew on July 18, 2007, 12:40:07 PM
Sarge-what's the latest?
I was supposed to officially detach from my unit in NC this passed Monday but something got screwed up with my reenlistment paperwork so I'm still part of recruiting for a few more days. It actually worked out in my favor because my original plan was to detach on 16 Jul and be on leave for 2 weeks before showing up to KC. But now that I have to wait, I'm saving up those vacation days but I don't have a job to do here. Actually, I havent' had any actual work to do in over a month. And for the last 2 weeks I've been calling in in the morning to check in and that's it. It's basically like I've been on vacation for the last few weeks.
So you're heading back to KC with the corps or did I miss something?
Nope, you didn't miss anything. I was supposed to reenlist last week but the paperwork got screwed up. Should get done either this Friday or Monday.
Your job still sending you out to KC each year?
Quote from: Sgt PSN on July 19, 2007, 12:17:26 AM
Quote from: Philly Crew on July 18, 2007, 04:44:40 PM
Quote from: Sgt PSN on July 18, 2007, 03:43:47 PM
Quote from: Philly Crew on July 18, 2007, 12:40:07 PM
Sarge-what's the latest?
I was supposed to officially detach from my unit in NC this passed Monday but something got screwed up with my reenlistment paperwork so I'm still part of recruiting for a few more days. It actually worked out in my favor because my original plan was to detach on 16 Jul and be on leave for 2 weeks before showing up to KC. But now that I have to wait, I'm saving up those vacation days but I don't have a job to do here. Actually, I havent' had any actual work to do in over a month. And for the last 2 weeks I've been calling in in the morning to check in and that's it. It's basically like I've been on vacation for the last few weeks.
So you're heading back to KC with the corps or did I miss something?
Nope, you didn't miss anything. I was supposed to reenlist last week but the paperwork got screwed up. Should get done either this Friday or Monday.
Your job still sending you out to KC each year?
No, with my promotion, they won't send me out. I am trying to get a director position in KC so we will see. I miss KC for some reason.
It's a great place to live sans the occasional tornado threat. If you end up getting a job out there then you'll be able to hook me up with some employment in 3 years when my next contract runs out.
I just got my commanders approval for OCS yesterday, while that is an important step in the application process I still have a long way to go. It should be a couple of months before I actually find out. Who knows it may actually keep me from going to Iraq if I get selected.
Until then I am slated to go to the E-5 promotion board next month, though I can see paper work holding me back and not allowing me to go until September. Either way I should make SGT in just around or under 2 years of service.
i came in the office at 11 AM this morning, and a bunch of us are leaving for an early happy hour around 2. not a bad work day.
if any of you are engineers and need a job, let me know. i get a mad referral bonus.
monday is my scheduled govt day off and veterans day observed which means i have monday and tuesday off...its gonna be a long drunk four day weekend
i love my job
Quote from: ice grillin you on November 09, 2007, 08:17:18 AM
monday is my scheduled govt day off and veterans day observed which means i have monday and tuesday off...its gonna be a long drunk four day weekend
i love my job
Cant beat that, other than you work for the man
I'm off monday for Veterans day, i plan on playing videogames and going to shoot my 9, good times
Quote from: phattymatty on July 20, 2007, 12:20:02 PM
if any of you are engineers and need a job, let me know. i get a mad referral bonus.
What kind of engineer?
Quote from: Seabiscuit36 on November 09, 2007, 08:29:59 AM
Quote from: ice grillin you on November 09, 2007, 08:17:18 AM
monday is my scheduled govt day off and veterans day observed which means i have monday and tuesday off...its gonna be a long drunk four day weekend
i love my job
Cant beat that, other than you work for the man
I'm off monday for Veterans day, i plan on playing videogames and going to shoot my 9, good times
what about your chrome plated mic and an amstel light
Thats my sunday :D
I havent been shooting in 9 months, going to hit up targetmaster.
Quote from: phattymatty on July 20, 2007, 12:20:02 PM
i came in the office at 11 AM this morning, and a bunch of us are leaving for an early happy hour around 2. not a bad work day.
if any of you are engineers and need a job, let me know. i get a mad referral bonus.
what kind?
3 day weekend coming up and I just picked up my free cases of Mich and Mich light.... Life's good...
Quote from: Phanatic on November 09, 2007, 01:06:41 PM
3 day weekend coming up and I just picked up my free cases of Mich and Mich light.... Life's good...
I was going to rip you a new one if you were in here bitching about your job. You know, since you get free beer and all.
BTW, it's starting to get pretty cool at night now so you might want to throw a thermal blanket or something in your car........just incase.
I've been holding out on posting this hoping for a possible change in orders but none will be coming......
Right after New Years I came into work, checked my email and had orders to go back to recruiting duty. I'm not leaving KC, so that's a good thing and I'll be working quite literally right down the street from where I'm at now so it's not like I've got to worry about a new commute either. I'm really farging pissed about it though because looking back at what it took for me to get back to Kansas City, I think it was higher up's intentions to put me back in recruiting from day 1......they just never told me.
Long story short (yes, this is the "short" version)......
April of 06 I found out that my recruiting office would be closing. Talked with my monitor (guy who tells me where I can move to) and he said he had a spot in KC at the recruiting headquarters but that i wouldn't be recruiting. So I accepted it.
A couple weeks later he called me up and told me that the recruiter in KC wanted to stay for an extra year and that he was going to move the recruiter into the job that I was supposed to fill and I would take the recruiter's spot. I didn't want to do that and neither did the recruiter. The sick farger actually just wanted to recruit for another year. So the monitor said fine and left the recruiter where he was and said I would be doing the original job I was told.
2 weeks before I actually left North Crapolina my orders were modified and instead of reporting into the recruiting district headquarters as originally discussed I was directed to report to the same unit I was with in KC before......to do the exact same job. Fine.
That was in August. The recruiter down the street is now nearing the end of his 1 year extension and I'm his replacement. This fargers set me up from the get go and had no intention of not making me this guy's replacement. Because if the didn't intend on sending me back to recruitiing then they would have found someone during the last 9 farging months to take over that recruiting office.
It's not even the recruiting thing that pisses me off. I really don't care about recruiting. It's an easy job and I get paid an extra $450 (tax free) a month to do it. But my concern is that a 2nd tour on recruiting duty would really hurt me for promotion purposes. I've already spent close to 3 years out of my actual job field when I recruited the first time and now I'm looking at possibly another 3 years out of my job field to recruit again. So we're talking about 5-6 years not doing my actual job. So when I'm getting looked at for promotion within my job field and I'm being compared to my peers, I won't stand a chance because I've got no farging job credibility. And even if I do get promoted, I'll be a farging recruiter and won't be learning dick about what I'm supposed to be doing in my job field.
The only bright spot is that I've been speaking with the commanding officer of the recruiting district that I'm going to and he's in complete agreement with me on everything. He doesn't understand why I'm being sent back to recruiting. Typically a 2nd tour on recruiting duty is voluntary. But he's going to work on keeping me there for no more than a year and then moving me into the district headquarters to do the job that I was originally supposed to go do. So if that happens then I guess it's all good. Either way I'm still getting farged though.
They Navy has a lifetime shore duty recruiter billet, basically they convert you to NC (Career Counselor) and you make rank accordingly. Some of the biggest dipshteins I've ever known made E-7 that way.
There's the same option for the Marines too called Career Recruiter. The funny thing about it is there's a buddy of mine who I've known for about 8 years now and he finished up his tour on recruiting duty about the same time I did and we're both here in KC now at the same unit. He wants to be a career recruiter but you need to be a Gunny (E-7) to apply and he's currently an E-6. But he is requesting to go over and fill the same spot I'm being sent to and hoping that he gets promoted to Gunny in the next couple years (which he will) so he can then apply to be a career recruiter. His request has already been denied twice by the monitor section.
It's farging rediculous.
hey man, some hero has to recruit more heroes to die for lies...might as well be you
Quote from: Sgt PSN on November 09, 2007, 05:54:04 PM
Quote from: Phanatic on November 09, 2007, 01:06:41 PM
3 day weekend coming up and I just picked up my free cases of Mich and Mich light.... Life's good...
I was going to rip you a new one if you were in here bitching about your job. You know, since you get free beer and all.
BTW, it's starting to get pretty cool at night now so you might want to throw a thermal blanket or something in your car........just incase.
I missed this somehow... awesome!
IGY in trouble? (http://www.wtopnews.com/?nid=25&sid=1331641)
thats been the #1 story here for the last 24 hours or so. I don't see the big outrage. 9 whole people out of 1000s were fired for looking at porn. big whoop.
Didn't you (FF) promise us that you wouldn't be posting anymore on account of a new job or some shtein?
Quote from: Diomedes on January 24, 2008, 02:56:43 PM
Didn't you (FF) promise us that you wouldn't be posting anymore on account of a new job or some shtein?
Yeah, it turns out that cutting out AIM and other work-at-home distractions allowed me to be significantly more productive without sacrificing :CF. Thanks for remembering, though.
BTW, glad I don't work here anymore (http://www.informationweek.com/news/showArticle.jhtml?articleID=205917177).
Yeah, that's some shaddy shtein they're doing. And so is this:
QuoteIBM also plans to lobby state and federal officials for changes to employment legislation that would allow high-tech companies to escape current overtime thresholds, according to the documents. "IBM believes aspects of the wage and hour laws have not kept pace with the realities of the modern workforce.
My guess is what it really comes down to is employees not effectively utilizing their time at work, not that there's so much work to do it can't be done in a 40 hour week. People spend more time farging off at work on the internet (self included) and taking smoke breaks (self included) then they actually do working (self sometimes included).
On days that I work late, it's hardly ever because I've got too much work to get done. Usually it's because I didn't manage my time properly during working hours (ie: I spent too much time farging off on the internet and outside in the smoking area).
Of course, I'm salary so it really doesn't matter whether I work all day or not. 1st and 15th of every month I'm getting paid regardless. Hourly wages are for suckas.
IBM uses utilization targets, which aren't directly visible to employees, as a primary way to grade their people. In technology, the target is usually over 100%, and the top workers usually come in around 110% or more. This means you have to average that much time every week, including IBM-designated holidays and personal vacation. And even if you come in at, say, 104%... you're not guaranteed anything as others in your pay band and organization might have done better.
Bums.
Oh, and tying in with Sarge's post, that is true... and clearly was somewhat true of me when I was working there. They encourage people to work more hours but offer little motivation to actually do anything productive during them... so you get a lot of people that do very little work per hour. Now, it's only going to be worse.
Quote from: FastFreddie on January 24, 2008, 04:33:10 PM
Oh, and tying in with Sarge's post, that is true... and clearly was somewhat true of me when I was working there. They encourage people to work more hours but offer little motivation to actually do anything productive during them... so you get a lot of people that do very little work per hour. Now, it's only going to be worse.
Or, managers could effectively manage their sections and make sure that their people are actually working instead of farging off. That way all the work gets done in 8 hours and the overtime is saved for when it's actually needed.
I'm basically in a management position right now. I've got 5 Marines working under me and there's very little "work" for me to do during the day. I go to meetings, takes notes and pass that onto my section. I handle problems that my Marines can't and I make sure that they (my Marines) are taken care of. And of course, I make sure that everything we need to get done during the day is done before 4:30.
I'm sure that if manager type people were more involved in the day to day running of their offices, productivity would go up and the amount of overtime required/given out would go down.
It's tough to manage like that when the company won't foot the bill for colocation.
I am so happy I left the corporate world behind, it's hard to explain. So I won't try.
All you bastiches stuck in it, I pity you.
Quit your jobs and take up landscaping. You'll learn spanish, get rock hard glutes, and sleep easy knowing you're doing honest work.
Is that what you're doing these days? Did you give up the cabinet making?
Folks 'round these parts (CF...no one in Baltimore knows what to call someone who actually works for a living) have called what I do landscaping, so that's my story and I'm sticking to it.
Quote from: Diomedes on January 24, 2008, 05:34:18 PM
Quit your jobs and take up landscaping. You'll learn spanish, get rock hard glutes, and sleep easy knowing you're doing honest work.
Dio?:
(http://www.tvguide.com/movies/dbpix/images/40944a.jpg)
Your statement reminded me immediately of this scene:
QuotePeter Gibbons: This isn't so bad, huh? Makin' bucks, gettin' exercise, workin' outside.
Lawrence: fargin' A.
Peter Gibbons: [nods] fargin' A.
Quote from: FastFreddie on January 24, 2008, 02:39:28 PM
IGY in trouble? (http://www.wtopnews.com/?nid=25&sid=1331641)
those are scummy city workers....im an upstanding fed
Gotcha.
Just don't call him uppity.
Angry Employee Deletes All of Company's Data (http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,325285,00.html)
Quote
When Marie Lupe Cooley, 41, of Jacksonville, Fla., saw a help-wanted ad in the newspaper for a position that looked suspiciously like her current job — and with her boss's phone number listed — she assumed she was about to be fired.
So, police say, she went to the architectural office where she works late Sunday night and erased 7 years' worth of drawings and blueprints, estimated to be worth $2.5 million.
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As for the job, Cooley originally wasn't in danger of losing it. The ad was for Hutchins' wife's company.
The firm told FOXNews.com that Cooley no longer is employed there.
Dumb bitch.
lol...aside from the idiot worker, what company doesn't invest in some sort of computer back-up contingency process that doesn't revolve around data recovery?
Quote from: Zanshin on January 28, 2008, 01:36:33 PM
lol...aside from the idiot worker, what company doesn't invest in some sort of computer back-up contingency process that doesn't revolve around data recovery?
QuoteHutchins told one TV station he'd managed to recover all the files using an expensive data-recovery service.
An expensive data recovery service isn't an inexpensive back-up system.
well he's obviously an idiot for giving this lady access to anything.
I was supposed to detach from my current command on Monday and report into the recruiting district on Tuesday. Found out a few hours ago that I'm not going to recruit anymore and am staying at my current command. Fargin eh!
I feel like one of those dumb-ass greedy contestants on Deal or No Deal. You know the ones - they just got a great offer, and they preach about how they just want enough to help their family, finish college, save the crippled puppies, etc. Then, as soon as they get a taste for a good deal of money, they risk it to open two or three more briefcases, only to watch their quarter-of-a-million dollar offer go down the crapper.
I received an offer for a job this week, and have seriously considered it. Exciting young company, high-profile position, and the ability to take a new division to great success through my contributions. And yes, a good sum of money included (not a quarter-mill like up above, but good nonetheless). What do I do? I turned them down this afternoon, hoping for something bigger and better in St. Louis. The downfall to this position was I would have to move to Houston, and it was just too much of a transition for me -- having to uproot the kids, leaving the extended family, and knowing I'd be more than 300 miles away from Sarge.
Now, I have rejection-remorse, convinced that it will be months before another offer lands in my inbox.
Dammit.
I knew you couldn't live without me.
I wish I knew how to quit you
Which one of you is the dead guy?
Houston is supposedly a hole in the face of the earth.
Quote from: Father Demon on February 07, 2008, 03:02:26 PM
I feel like one of those dumb-ass greedy contestants on Deal or No Deal. You know the ones - they just got a great offer, and they preach about how they just want enough to help their family, finish college, save the crippled puppies, etc. Then, as soon as they get a taste for a good deal of money, they risk it to open two or three more briefcases, only to watch their quarter-of-a-million dollar offer go down the crapper.
I received an offer for a job this week, and have seriously considered it. Exciting young company, high-profile position, and the ability to take a new division to great success through my contributions. And yes, a good sum of money included (not a quarter-mill like up above, but good nonetheless). What do I do? I turned them down this afternoon, hoping for something bigger and better in St. Louis. The downfall to this position was I would have to move to Houston, and it was just too much of a transition for me -- having to uproot the kids, leaving the extended family, and knowing I'd be more than 300 miles away from Sarge.
Now, I have rejection-remorse, convinced that it will be months before another offer lands in my inbox.
Dammit.
as much as you hate to leave Sarge's behind :D, consider everything else. From what my co-workers have said, Houston isn't so bad, semi-reasonable housing prices, but weather can suck (floods/heat/etc). Hey, at least it's not Dall-ass.
Quote from: Father Demon on February 07, 2008, 03:02:26 PM
The downfall to this position was I would have to move to Houston, and it was just too much of a transition for me --
There's not enough money in the world to get me to move to Texas...you did the right thing.
Jay didn't even do it for money...just some peruvian Hoyda
Quote from: SunMo on February 07, 2008, 05:33:12 PM
Jay didn't even do it for money...just some peruvian Hoyda
and that he heard Selma lives there.
Houston is awful. You made the right call.
Quote from: SunMo on February 07, 2008, 05:33:12 PM
Jay didn't even do it for money...just some peruvian Hoyda
she must have a snapper
In an effort to break routine and do something a little different, my section decided that instead of doing normal pt that we'd go to the local community center and take a spin class. If you don't know, a spin class is 45 minutes of hell on a stationary bike and the class was led by a person who was way too happy, way too energetic and listened to way too much techno.
:-D :-D
Demon, if you need any info on Houston and the surrounding area shoot me a PM.
I moved here for the money and the girl. A win/win deal. :yay
Houston is a spread out city with about the shteintiest traffic on this planet. I would rather drive in NYC traffic all day versus this junk here. Hell, I'd rather drive in NYC traffic with MDS in the passenger seat yammering on about the greatness of the World Cup than deal with this shtein every day.
But I have to drive for my job, so its unavoidable. I relish the days when I leave the city and go to Galveston and places like that.
I live on the NW side of town and its not too bad here. If I had to just go to and from the office each day it'd be cake because I am only 5 miles away.
It rains every goddamn day here. Bad traffic. No zoning laws...shtein like that.
But if you live outside the city, its not too shabby. Katy is really nice.
listen...you sound like you're enjoying yourself and all..
but when you get to the point where you relish the days you get to go to Galveston...i would be looking into suicide method is least painful
Yeah. It gets even worse.
I not only like going to Galveston, but I like going to El Campo because its like 70 miles away and no traffic. A shtein hole of a town.
Goddamn, I'm going to go chug Draino.
Leave your girl's # on the counter.
Done.
I left it next to your pic where you were licking the parking lot. She'll like that.
Chicks dig my tongue.
You ever go to Moody Gardens Phreak? Pretty cool place down there in Galveston.
Not yet, I'm going to wait until t warms up a bit and I can go down there and relax and not have to work.
Looking up for me now. I got a temporary gig (all but signed - should sign tomorrow or Monday) doing a consulting deal for a small company that needs me to tear apart their NOC and rebuild it. When I told them my real goal was a career, and I didn't want to leave them high and dry if something comes up, we agreed to take a four month project, and break it down into four phases. I can leave at the end of any phase, no harm, no foul. Essentially a perfect deal for me.. make good money while looking for a job, and when I find one, I can leave and pocket the cash I brought down.
Also, I interviewed for a job yesterday with who would be my hiring manager. She had the biggest knockers I've seen in an office environment in years and years. :yay
Looks like my days in KC are numbered. Got orders yesterday to leave in Sep and head out to Edwards AFB in Cali.about 2 hrs east of Chuggie. When I leave, I'll have only been on station here for 13 months. Kind of sucks. I am looking forward to the unit I'm going to though. It's a CH-46 Squadron (CH-46 pictured below) and I haven't had an opportunity to work on the air side of things. So that'll be a great new experience. I'll most likely be deploying sometime in 2009 for Iraq (probably Al Asad) but if you're going to deploy, going with the Air Wing is the way to go since they tend to have the best facilities available and I'll probably go on a few flights with them while we're over there as well.
The only thing I'm not really excited about is that I'm leaving KC after only a year (really just settled in) and this base is basically in the middle of the desert. 2 hours from LA, maybe 3 or 4 from Vegas.
This may actually be better for me in the long run though because it will give me an opportunity to try and get back to KC in 3 or 4 years and finish my career out here and retire. Had I stayed here for 3 years right now, I'd have to leave and go somewhere else for another 3 or 4 years before I could retire
..and then move back to KC. So it might not be such a bad thing for the long term. For the short term, it still sucks though.
(http://aviationtrivia.homestead.com/files/ch46_2.jpg)
I've been to edwards, and yes, it sucks. Smack in the middle of no where. But, you are a short drive from plenty of things (LA, Vegas, not to mention Chuggie), so there is stuff to do when you aren't beating up airmen.
And to think I turned down Houston for you.
I left my firm today. I had it out with my fellow senior partner and decided that the best thing for me to do is leave the firm and start over on my own.
16 years at the firm and today was it for me.
I need a hug.
Or a Jager Bomb the size of an oil drum.
Whatever.
Quote from: Father Demon on February 14, 2008, 11:21:13 AM
I've been to edwards, and yes, it sucks. Smack in the middle of no where. But, you are a short drive from plenty of things (LA, Vegas, not to mention Chuggie), so there is stuff to do when you aren't beating up airmen.
And to think I turned down Houston for you.
If I had the option to say no, I would have. Chuggie's the only one that's really excited about this whole thing.
Quote from: Sgt PSN on February 14, 2008, 11:15:25 AM
Looks like my days in KC are numbered. Got orders yesterday to leave in Sep and head out to Edwards AFB in Cali.about 2 hrs east of Chuggie. When I leave, I'll have only been on station here for 13 months. Kind of sucks. I am looking forward to the unit I'm going to though. It's a CH-46 Squadron (CH-46 pictured below) and I haven't had an opportunity to work on the air side of things. So that'll be a great new experience. I'll most likely be deploying sometime in 2009 for Iraq (probably Al Asad) but if you're going to deploy, going with the Air Wing is the way to go since they tend to have the best facilities available and I'll probably go on a few flights with them while we're over there as well.
The only thing I'm not really excited about is that I'm leaving KC after only a year (really just settled in) and this base is basically in the middle of the desert. 2 hours from LA, maybe 3 or 4 from Vegas.
This may actually be better for me in the long run though because it will give me an opportunity to try and get back to KC in 3 or 4 years and finish my career out here and retire. Had I stayed here for 3 years right now, I'd have to leave and go somewhere else for another 3 or 4 years before I could retire.....and then move back to KC. So it might not be such a bad thing for the long term. For the short term, it still sucks though.
(http://aviationtrivia.homestead.com/files/ch46_2.jpg)
I was station next to a Navy squadron of CH-46's. Took a few rides in them. Would be a Cool beast to work on.
Quote from: Jerome99RIP on February 14, 2008, 11:55:15 AM
I need a hug.
Or a Jager Bomb the size of an oil drum.
Here at :CF, you buy your own damn drinks. But I know SunMo wants to hug it out with you.
Quote from: Phanatic on February 14, 2008, 12:05:13 PM
I was station next to a Navy squadron of CH-46's. Took a few rides in them. Would be a Cool beast to work on.
I flew in them a lot when I was a grunt. They're ok. Given a choice, I'd love to go to a CH-53 squadron.
(http://www.tricitymarines.com/images/ch53ett.jpg)
:drool
You're still a grunt to us.
Of course I am. I show up to tailgates with MRE's, get wasted, make bombs and lick stuff off the ground. That's basically the day-to-day life of a grunt.
Quote from: Sgt PSN on February 14, 2008, 12:15:43 PM
Quote from: Phanatic on February 14, 2008, 12:05:13 PM
I was station next to a Navy squadron of CH-46's. Took a few rides in them. Would be a Cool beast to work on.
I flew in them a lot when I was a grunt. They're ok. Given a choice, I'd love to go to a CH-53 squadron.
I saw one of those beasts on the ground in Bahrain once. What a monster.
I ended up spending 4 years in the back of one of these pigs. Fun to work on for sure though.
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Quote from: FastFreddie on February 14, 2008, 12:06:47 PM
Quote from: Jerome99RIP on February 14, 2008, 11:55:15 AM
I need a hug.
Or a Jager Bomb the size of an oil drum.
Here at :CF, you buy your own damn drinks. But I know SunMo wants to hug it out with you.
here here lil Romey
(http://www.bestgayblogs.net/img/eHug.jpg)
Quote from: Jerome99RIP on February 14, 2008, 11:55:15 AM... and start over on my own.
You're not as dumb as you post after all.
Quote from: Jerome99RIP on February 14, 2008, 11:55:15 AM
I left my firm today. I had it out with my fellow senior partner and decided that the best thing for me to do is leave the firm and start over on my own.
16 years at the firm and today was it for me.
I need a hug.
Or a Jager Bomb the size of an oil drum.
Whatever.
Did you get to keep the tape measure though?
Or at least get a good kidney punch on the guy who you had it out with?
Quote from: Sgt PSN on February 14, 2008, 11:15:25 AM
Looks like my days in KC are numbered. Got orders yesterday to leave in Sep and head out to Edwards AFB in Cali.about 2 hrs east of Chuggie. When I leave, I'll have only been on station here for 13 months. Kind of sucks. I am looking forward to the unit I'm going to though. It's a CH-46 Squadron (CH-46 pictured below) and I haven't had an opportunity to work on the air side of things. So that'll be a great new experience. I'll most likely be deploying sometime in 2009 for Iraq (probably Al Asad) but if you're going to deploy, going with the Air Wing is the way to go since they tend to have the best facilities available and I'll probably go on a few flights with them while we're over there as well.
The only thing I'm not really excited about is that I'm leaving KC after only a year (really just settled in) and this base is basically in the middle of the desert. 2 hours from LA, maybe 3 or 4 from Vegas.
This may actually be better for me in the long run though because it will give me an opportunity to try and get back to KC in 3 or 4 years and finish my career out here and retire. Had I stayed here for 3 years right now, I'd have to leave and go somewhere else for another 3 or 4 years before I could retire.....and then move back to KC. So it might not be such a bad thing for the long term. For the short term, it still sucks though.
(http://aviationtrivia.homestead.com/files/ch46_2.jpg)
That sucks. I haven't been able to make it back out to KC in awhile but really miss it. Good luck at Edwards. You know life is better on an Air Force base!
why on earth would you want to live in kansas city?
he really likes barbecue
Quote from: MDS on February 15, 2008, 02:31:39 PM
why on earth would you want to live in kansas city?
Why on earth would you want to go to Temple? Or be jewish?
Quote from: Philly Crew on February 15, 2008, 08:24:35 AM
That sucks. I haven't been able to make it back out to KC in awhile but really miss it. Good luck at Edwards. You know life is better on an Air Force base!
The only reason I'm not entirely pissed about it is because I know there's a good chance I'll be able to come back out here in a few years, finish up my career and retire here. If I stayed here for a few years right now, I'd have to do my last few years somewhere else, retire and then move back here and settle back in. If it all works out the way I'm hoping and I get to come back here for my last couple years, I'll be able to basically use the last year or so as a giant transition period and find a house, start networking for a job, etc, etc.
And I am looking forward to being on an Air Force base. From what I understand, Edwards is some sort of test facility for the space program so the facilities on station should be top notch. Not to mention that the AF has some fine ass women and it's the only branch of service that I haven't shagged a lady from......yet.
Quote from: Sgt PSN on February 14, 2008, 12:15:43 PM
Quote from: Phanatic on February 14, 2008, 12:05:13 PM
I was station next to a Navy squadron of CH-46's. Took a few rides in them. Would be a Cool beast to work on.
I flew in them a lot when I was a grunt. They're ok. Given a choice, I'd love to go to a CH-53 squadron.
(http://www.tricitymarines.com/images/ch53ett.jpg)
:drool
my cousin flys those for the navy. He's based in Pensacola, and a flight instructor.
Got to spend my day in CACO (Casulty Assistance Calls Officer) training today. Basically a CACO is a person designated to go to mom and dad's house and tell them that their kid just got dead. We've all seen it done in the movies and the manner it's done is very much the same.
What I didn't know though is that when you are assigned as a CACO to a family it basically becomes your primary job for as long as the family needs you around (or until you die). I always knew there was more to the job than just going to someone's house, telling them their loved one was killed and then leaving. I figured it was something along the lines of staying with them and greiving with them, giving them an "info packet" or something that lets them know everything they should expect and what they need to do to handle all of the affairs that come with a person's death and that maybe the whole thing was wrapped up within a week or so.
Not true.
You are basically at the family's beck and call from the minute you show up at their doorstep until all issues with the deceased have been settled. This includes filling out mountains of paperwork so that life insurance can be paid out, veteran's benefits get started, making funeral arrangements, recovering the body, transporting the body to it's final place of rest, etc, etc, etc.
We had a few guys in my group who had done it before and they had all seen everything on the emotional spectrum from the families they delivered the news to. Mostly they just dealt with the what you would expect....lots of crying, sadness, denial, etc, etc. But some have been slapped by an angry mom or punched by a brother or husband. One guy said a father set his gov't vehicle on fire.
And now this is something that I get to go do should a Marine whose family resides in my geographical area kicks the bucket. This is one job I honestly hope I never ever have to do.
Quote from: Sgt PSN on March 04, 2008, 08:20:16 PM
Got to spend my day in CACO (Casulty Assistance Calls Officer) training today. Basically a CACO is a person designated to go to mom and dad's house and tell them that their kid just got dead. We've all seen it done in the movies and the manner it's done is very much the same.
What I didn't know though is that when you are assigned as a CACO to a family it basically becomes your primary job for as long as the family needs you around (or until you die). I always knew there was more to the job than just going to someone's house, telling them their loved one was killed and then leaving. I figured it was something along the lines of staying with them and greiving with them, giving them an "info packet" or something that lets them know everything they should expect and what they need to do to handle all of the affairs that come with a person's death and that maybe the whole thing was wrapped up within a week or so.
Not true.
You are basically at the family's beckoned call from the minute you show up at their doorstep until all issues with the deceased have been settled. This includes filling out mountains of paperwork so that life insurance can be paid out, veteran's benefits get started, making funeral arrangements, recovering the body, transporting the body to it's final place of rest, etc, etc, etc.
We had a few guys in my group who had done it before and they had all seen everything on the emotional spectrum from the families they delivered the news to. Mostly they just dealt with the what you would expect....lots of crying, sadness, denial, etc, etc. But some have been slapped by an angry mom or punched by a brother or husband. One guy said a father set his gov't vehicle on fire.
And now this is something that I get to go do should a Marine whose family resides in my geographical area kicks the bucket. This is one job I honestly hope I never ever have to do.
Wow, that's tough. Good luck and I hope you never have to make that visit.
That's a zesty job, but I am impressed that it is done to that level.
My imporession of the treatment of dad and wounded given these days is to bury them under the rug asap.
That's the Bush White House treatment, not the way the Services themselves do it.
and the VA?
well, the VA is obviously all kinds of farged up. and that's not really a surprise...the government claims to support the troops but they send them to fight unneccesary wars, without the necessary planning troops or even equipment for the ones they do send, and once they do return home, they are neglected and forgotten except for campaign stops and photo ops/bench seats behind the chimp in chief
but I digress.
the troops themselves likely bend over backwards for the families of KIA soldiers...
Unfortunately, I completely agree with Dio here. This administration has totally farged up.
The VA is a complete mess. The people who work for the VA are great and do what they can but at the same time, there is so much red tape wrapped around everything that it makes it extremely difficult for veterans to recieve treatment for things that are 'out of the ordinary', especially if the condition's origin can be traced/linked to their time in the service but didn't manifest until after discharge.
Was the discharge oozy?
As a vet, I agree 100% with Dio. What the administration does for for the military is horrible. Not just this administration, but every administration in decades.
Wouldn't it just be simpler to kill service personnel after the government is done using them?
I mean, really.
The Bush flavor of republicans are so pro military until service to the country is actually over. They all got exceptions and never had to see the real shtein a day in their life. Then 40 farging years later they're politicos trashing real vets service because it suits their purpose.
"It ain't me, I aint no senators son, no"
Just speaking from my experience I've been treated 100x better as a Vet then I ever was while on Active Duty. College is paid for, I get a monthly payment for my disability, the VA hospital is there at my disposal. I was assigned a counselor for the vocational rehabilitation program I just enrolled into. Can't really complain on my end.
Quote from: SD_Eagle on March 06, 2008, 10:28:12 PM
Just speaking from my experience I've been treated 100x better as a Vet then I ever was while on Active Duty. College is paid for, I get a monthly payment for my disability, the VA hospital is there at my disposal. I was assigned a counselor for the vocational rehabilitation program I just enrolled into. Can't really complain on my end.
That's because you don't have any out of the ordinary needs. Let's say that 10 years from now you get cancer and it's determined that the source/cause is because of something you were exposed to while serving on ship.........good luck getting treatment for it.
Of course, the more likely scenerio would be that you get aids from all the ghey buttsecks you guys have together so maybe that would have been a better example.
Quote from: Sgt PSN on March 07, 2008, 08:01:33 AM
Of course, the more likely scenerio would be that you get aids from all the ghey buttsecks you guys have together so maybe that would have been a better example.
My cornhole is still sore
Quote from: Sgt PSN on March 07, 2008, 08:01:33 AM
Quote from: SD_Eagle on March 06, 2008, 10:28:12 PM
Just speaking from my experience I've been treated 100x better as a Vet then I ever was while on Active Duty. College is paid for, I get a monthly payment for my disability, the VA hospital is there at my disposal. I was assigned a counselor for the vocational rehabilitation program I just enrolled into. Can't really complain on my end.
That's because you don't have any out of the ordinary needs. Let's say that 10 years from now you get cancer and it's determined that the source/cause is because of something you were exposed to while serving on ship.........good luck getting treatment for it.
Of course, the more likely scenerio would be that you get aids from all the ghey buttsecks you guys have together so maybe that would have been a better example.
If we did a poll how many members of :CF are in the military or were in the military and how many of those people felt it was a good decision for them?
I do feel it was a good decision for me. I wasn't exactly college material financially or otherwise.
That CACO thing sounds like a pretty crappy deal there Sgt. I also saw from a previous post that you will likely end up over here next year. Don't worry its not too bad. I am in the worst part and have one of the most dangerous jobs(route clearance team) and it still isn't that bad. Of course the no booze and not gettting laid part is pretty terrible, but other than that..... Oh yeah getting shot at and blown up kind of sucks too.
I actually love the Army, you have to put up with a lot of bullshtein but other than that it is the easiest job there is. It is doubtful that I will make a career out of it but we will see. A lot depends on the election for me, I don't really want to work for Hillary. As long as she isn't in office, there is a good chance that I will do a term as an officer. If not that I am looking at switching to EOD or Civil Affairs. I doubt I will do the Civil Affairs thing because it is pogue as hell, but it is useful for when you get out. The only thing about staying enlisted is I can't get promoted for at least 2 more years and the money kind of sucks. I am an E-5 with just over two years of service so I don't make that much.
Joining the USAF was the best decision I ever made. I did 10 years, and then decided that we were growing apart. I got great training, saw half the world, and made great friends.
Getting out was the second best decision I ever made. I had done a good job in there, but it was time to move on.
I have zero regrets about getting in.
Obviously I'm still in and I still have days where I hate it and days where I love it. The big thing with me right now is that I'm starting to feel like I'm not being challenged enough in my day to day routine. Of course, that will change when I go out to Cali because I'll be doing something out there that I've never done before, which is work on the air side of things, so I think it will keep me interested for 6 mo to a year before I have it mastered and then I'll be bored again. I've already got nearly 14 years in though so it would almost be a complete waste at this point if I didn't finish out my 20....especially when you consider that I've got 3 more years left on my current contract. So the next time I'm even eligible to get out will be when I'm only about 3 years and some change away from retirement. Too much time invested to throw it all away.
In some ways though I do wish that I would have at least explored my options when I was sitting around 8-10 years in. Just to see what was available to me in the civilian sector. I don't regret staying in at all but I do regret not looking at what else I could have done.
Greatest decision I ever made was joining the Navy. Second greatest decision I ever made was getting out.
Quote from: SD_Eagle on March 07, 2008, 11:28:41 AM
Greatest decision I ever made was joining the Navy. Second greatest decision I ever made was getting out.
Well said SD. Truer words have never been spoken.
Quote from: Father Demon on March 07, 2008, 10:21:20 AM
Joining the USAF was the best decision I ever made. Getting out was the second best decision I ever made.
Not joining the military was the best decision I ever made, and as a bonus, it's better for our national defense not to have had me as part of it.
Then again, maybe I could be like Neil Patrick Harris in "Starship Troopers". Only, less gay, I'd hope, but from what I hear that kind of stuff is difficult for you boys to avoid.
Speaking of which... Sarge, was Rob Riggle a kind lover?
Let's just say that after our "encounter" I prefer to call him Rob Wiggle.
So, possible good news on the job search. I've interviewed about 5 times (serious interviews, that is,plus a bunch of phone screens). I've had two job offers, both of which I turned down. The one was in Houston, but decided I didn't want to move there for a lateral job. The second was here in St. Louis, but they expected me to do two full time jobs for a nice, fat pay cut from what I was making before. No thanks.
About two weeks ago, I had a phone interview with Google for a position I had applied for. It was an hour of pain, humility, and frustration. I got off the phone, went to my wife and said "Well, that was fun. Just bombed the shtein out of it. At least I can say I made it to the phone interview." After that, I pretty much forgot about it.
Yesterday, Google calls me and asks if it's a good time to talk. I figure it's the official brush-off, and asked if I could call them back in 15 minutes after I dropped my son off somewhere. I call back, and the recruiter says "Have you ever visited our head quarters?" My answer was "Nope.. never made it out there. It's a place I would love to see, but haven't had the opportunity." He then says "We'd like to fly you out here for a couple days to meet with members of the team. We'll make sure you get to experience our four-star meals in our cafeterias, see the magic of Google, and spend a day with 5 or 6 team members." SWEET!
So, it looks like I'll be visiting Cali in the next couple weeks. I've done some research, and I know I can expect more humiliating and humbling conversations as they put me through the wringer, but I am psyched about it. All I'm considering this right now is a fun little project, and I worry about the "What the hell do I do now??" questions if I actually get an offer.
Cons: Moving from a place where cost of living is 32% below the national average, to a place where it's more than double. Moving away from family, but it's beginning to look as that might be the right move for me anyway, no matter where I find a job. All the good things I've been finding have NOT been in St. Louis.
Pros: Google on the resume. Being able to learn a TON more stuff about my industry. Hoping the move to Cali lasts only 3 to 5 years before I move on somewhere else. As I told my wife, in my industry, this is the equivalent to playing semi-pro ball, and getting called up to the majors.
But for now, I'm just looking forward to seeing everything out there I've always heard about.
Good luck, Demon.
That is frickin awesome. Google only takes the best of the best - getting a second interview is almost something you can put on your resume. Envy.
Quote from: Father Demon on March 22, 2008, 11:33:37 PM
So, possible good news on the job search. I've interviewed about 5 times (serious interviews, that is,plus a bunch of phone screens). I've had two job offers, both of which I turned down. The one was in Houston, but decided I didn't want to move there for a lateral job. The second was here in St. Louis, but they expected me to do two full time jobs for a nice, fat pay cut from what I was making before. No thanks.
About two weeks ago, I had a phone interview with Google for a position I had applied for. It was an hour of pain, humility, and frustration. I got off the phone, went to my wife and said "Well, that was fun. Just bombed the shtein out of it. At least I can say I made it to the phone interview." After that, I pretty much forgot about it.
Yesterday, Google calls me and asks if it's a good time to talk. I figure it's the official brush-off, and asked if I could call them back in 15 minutes after I dropped my son off somewhere. I call back, and the recruiter says "Have you ever visited our head quarters?" My answer was "Nope.. never made it out there. It's a place I would love to see, but haven't had the opportunity." He then says "We'd like to fly you out here for a couple days to meet with members of the team. We'll make sure you get to experience our four-star meals in our cafeterias, see the magic of Google, and spend a day with 5 or 6 team members." SWEET!
So, it looks like I'll be visiting Cali in the next couple weeks. I've done some research, and I know I can expect more humiliating and humbling conversations as they put me through the wringer, but I am psyched about it. All I'm considering this right now is a fun little project, and I worry about the "What the hell do I do now??" questions if I actually get an offer.
Cons: Moving from a place where cost of living is 32% below the national average, to a place where it's more than double. Moving away from family, but it's beginning to look as that might be the right move for me anyway, no matter where I find a job. All the good things I've been finding have NOT been in St. Louis.
Pros: Google on the resume. Being able to learn a TON more stuff about my industry. Hoping the move to Cali lasts only 3 to 5 years before I move on somewhere else. As I told my wife, in my industry, this is the equivalent to playing semi-pro ball, and getting called up to the majors.
But for now, I'm just looking forward to seeing everything out there I've always heard about.
First Demon turns down the job in Houston because it would send him too far away from me. Now that I've got orders to Cali, Demon "magically" gets a job interview out there and could possibly be moving.
The beauty of message boards is that the evidence is readily available for when I file my restraining order.
Google's headquarters are nowhere close to San Diego. Nice try.
I won't be either.
Nicer try.
You are carrying Chuggie's love child.
Nicest try.
Not anymore. I had it aborted and sold the parts to stem cell research labs.
Utero-Rooter*?
*TM by Diomedes, MMVIII
sarge wont be satisfied with his proximity to philly until he reaches indonesia
Quote from: ice grillin you on March 25, 2008, 01:14:55 PM
sarge wont be satisfied with his proximity to philly until he reaches indonesia
Not true at all. I really don't want to live on the left coast and I definitely don't want to permanently relocate anywhere outside the US. Although it would be nice to live in Europe for a couple of years, but definitely wouldn't want to do it permanently. KC, Dallas or Austin are all potential retirement places for me 7.5 years from now.
Quote from: Sgt PSN on March 25, 2008, 08:13:36 AM
First Demon turns down the job in Houston because it would send him too far away from me. Now that I've got orders to Cali, Demon "magically" gets a job interview out there and could possibly be moving.
The beauty of message boards is that the evidence is readily available for when I file my restraining order.
With an ambiguously worded letter from a lawyer, I'm willing to edit posts, remove them completely, or even garble the entire database. For a fee, of course. $0.25 per character. I think this is a fair deal.
I've already printed what I need so your mercinary tactics will not affect me. I would like to point out though that I don't believe that Demon is actually stalking me. He's a straight dude from what I can tell. His wife, on the other hand, won't leave me the farg alone.
Since I'm trying to avoid reality anyway, I'll throw this out there.
I feel trapped.
I'm in a management position in a department in a huge company. I have a pretty good reputation, but I'm really, really sick of the corporate runaround. It really makes me feel physically ill, and I'm losing sleep over it. I think the work that I do gets a lot of lip service, but I don't think people actually care about it. And I really can't take the political bullshtein anymore...it's getting harder to pretend that I care.
So, I've started taking a look around to see what else is out there. And, the more I talk to recruiters, the more I realize that I really just don't want to do this anymore. I just don't believe in the work anymore, I'm bored and I'm jaded. That said, I've built up over 10 years of quality experience doing what I do, and I need to support my family.
Anyone here ever figure their way out of a situation like that?
Killing homeless people always works for me Zanshin
Yeah, I thought about that...but the pay isn't what you think it should be.
Z- The Navy - It's not just a job, it's $96.78 a week!
Is your job involving math or science? You could pretty easily get into teaching, depending on the state (in Florida, you can get a temporary certificate if you pass the state tests, then take courses to get permanent certification).
To tell you the truth, you could get into teaching in any subject - the odds are just a lot better in math and science.
It just depends on how much money is needed to support your family. In most states you'd start around $40-50K.
40 or 50 grand to get treated like shtein by everyone, yay!
Quote from: SD_Eagle on March 27, 2008, 09:45:42 AM
Z- The Navy - It's not just a job, it's $96.78 a week!
One of the best SNL commercial parodies ever.
Quote from: Diomedes on March 27, 2008, 07:35:30 PM
40 or 50 grand to get treated like shtein by everyone, yay!
Who's shteinting on it? I'm doing just fine with it. But in his management position, it could be a decrease in income.
Quote from: Rome on March 27, 2008, 07:45:08 PM
Quote from: SD_Eagle on March 27, 2008, 09:45:42 AM
Z- The Navy - It's not just a job, it's $96.78 a week!
One of the best SNL commercial parodies ever.
I tried finding it on the net but no such luck.
who shteins on teachers?
who doesn't?
the kids treat the teachers like shtein, the parents treat them like shtein, the principals treat them like shtein, the board treats them like shtein....everything sucks for teachers
best I can tell
Quote from: Diomedes on March 27, 2008, 08:22:43 PM
who shteins on teachers?
who doesn't?
the kids treat the teachers like shtein, the parents treat them like shtein, the principals treat them like shtein, the board treats them like shtein....everything sucks for teachers
best I can tell
Kids are kids. They're learning how to act around people. Most of my kids, while needing a verbal kick in the pants one in awhile, are pretty good kids.
I've had only the occasional run-in with parents. Usually when they're upset, it's a misunderstanding on either their part or my part. Usually I try to include in all calls, even discipline ones, something positive about the kid - something real, not trite. I also try to send all sorts of communication home to show what we're doing. Heck, in 8th grade I don't even have too much contact with parents, but when I do, there's rarely a problem. I just try to remain professional.
My principal, and his two assistants, have been fantastic. Best group of admins I've ever worked for - include the teachers in everything, and let us know we're appreciated. Not monitarily, of course (we're going to bare bones budget), but they try to do lots of little things.
The board? They're the typical disconnected non-educational professionals who are trying their best, but are over their head. In a lot of things, their hands are tied by state laws and state budget cuts. In day-to-day things, they're pretty much hands off and a non-entity. Most problems are from over their heads - state mandates and such (the testing and the class size laws - NONFUNDED, are two examples. Ask Romey about the F-CAT).
Now, if you want to talk about shteinting on the teachers, look no further than the local media... tabloid journalism at its worst.
you work in some kind of public teacher heaven
or your weird mormon religion has you seeing the world through rosy-faith-colored glasses
I'll give you the benefit of the doubt and say the former
Quote from: Diomedes on March 27, 2008, 09:35:34 PM
you work in some kind of public teacher heaven
or your weird mormon religion has you seeing the world through rosy-faith-colored glasses
I'll give you the benefit of the doubt and say the former
I have a great school. No, it's not perfect, but it's much better than most. I've been there 14 years, and I drive 30 miles each way.
Oh, one thing I do hate: The projected budget cuts are now estimated at $30 million for our district.
Yeah, that "huge" property tax cut was a really good idea, idiots. Charlie Crist - he and the freaking Florida legislature are the ones treating teachers (and kids) like shtein. Freaking Jeb Bush Jr.
Just got back from Load Planner [insert jokes here] School in Ft Worth. Course was 10 days long but was actually one of the better training courses I've gone to. It dealt with learning how to properly load various aircraft with cargo/vehicles/troops/etc so that the plane is properly balanced and won't turn into a lawn dart immediately after take off. It's relatively easy work but requires a rediculous amount of attention to detail because of all the math that's involved. Should come in very handy when I go out to the air wing in September and it will also look really good on my resume should I ever decide to work for Fed Ex.
My cousin went from flying P3's in the navy to flying for Fedex, best decision he ever made.
Well yeah. When's the last time a Fed Ex plane was involved in a dog fight?
Quote from: Sgt PSN on March 31, 2008, 01:22:03 PM
...requires a rediculous amount of attention to detail because of all the math that's involved.
Rediculous, indeed. Good thing they're relying on you for math.
Quote from: Sgt PSN on March 31, 2008, 01:35:41 PM
Well yeah. When's the last time a Fed Ex plane was involved in a dog fight?
:-D
Ain't no P-3 in no dog fight niether... The things practically a cargo plain already! Perfect move really.
Quote from: Zanshin on March 27, 2008, 09:10:07 AM
Since I'm trying to avoid reality anyway, I'll throw this out there.
I feel trapped.
I'm in a management position in a department in a huge company. I have a pretty good reputation, but I'm really, really sick of the corporate runaround. It really makes me feel physically ill, and I'm losing sleep over it. I think the work that I do gets a lot of lip service, but I don't think people actually care about it. And I really can't take the political bullshtein anymore...it's getting harder to pretend that I care.
So, I've started taking a look around to see what else is out there. And, the more I talk to recruiters, the more I realize that I really just don't want to do this anymore. I just don't believe in the work anymore, I'm bored and I'm jaded. That said, I've built up over 10 years of quality experience doing what I do, and I need to support my family.
Anyone here ever figure their way out of a situation like that?
I get this trapped feeling from time to time. Luckily I've managed to avoid management and get the same promotions on the technical track. I really enjoy the actual work part of the job when I can get through the political crap to do it. Luckily my company plies me with free alcohol to numb the pain....
Well, I'm in Mountain View today. I got to my hotel room at 2:00 AM Pacific time this morning, and had a breakfast scheduled with an old friend who now works at Google this morning at 8:30. After that, six -- yes SIX -- interviews starting at 10:30 and ending at 4:30. One was a lunch interview, and the food was (as advertised) out of this world. I've been told several times about the Google-15 from the weight you gain the first year hear.
As expected, the interviews were fairly brutal. Ranging from technical questions to relationship questions to brain-teaser-type thought questions to negotiation scenarios (including one role-playing exercise) from four of my possible co-workers, the hiring manager, and a director of another organization that interfaces directly with the group I am interviewing for. Most opened with about 2-3 minutes of small talk (always initiated by me, because that's how I role yo) followed by an intense 50 to 60 minutes. I got to ask a few questions, but most of the interviews were interviewer-directed with little time for me to dig in deep. But, when I had the opportunity, I dug in as hard and thorough as I could, asking questions about the team, position visibility, and co-workers. I didn't see the need to ask questions like "what's it like to work at Google?" or "What's the culture here like?" as anyone that wants to know can find it in an instant on the Internet. I wanted to know who I would be working with, what are the team's challenges, and how would I fit in.
I think it went reasonably well, considering. I think I blew one interview after lunch when my brain just wouldn't function and I was forgetting terms and names of things. Food comas suck. I just hope that the other five went as well as I think, and they outweigh the one bad one.
I should know in a week. Yea....
QuoteI didn't see the need to ask questions like "what's it like to work at Google?" or "What's the culture here like?"
Employers are always impressed when you show up to an interview and you've already taken the initiative of researching their company. You should have opened by telling them you looked up a bunch of info about them in a matter of minutes by doing a quick Yahoo! search.
Would've made you a shoe in.
lol
Quote from: Father Demon on April 07, 2008, 09:43:41 PM
Well, I'm in Mountain View today.
Mountain View's nice, but Alviso's where it's at, yo.
BTW, watch out for cougars in Los Gatos.
Deadly cats in a town called Los Gatos? What are the odds?
I hate my job right now. I'm at St. Michael's Yacht Club. What a bunch of snooty iceholes. The appointed overseer of construction* asked me to park my truck at the back of the lot, away from the work site, becuase a ladder rack full of scaffolding and ladders is, as the Commodore put it, "unsightly." I told him sure, if he wants to help me haul all the tools and such across the parking lot, no problem.
Dick.
I can't wait 'till the dumpster gets delivered.
* a meaningless title for a want to be know it all.
tell him that parking across town just means Commodore Cockface will be paying for more time getting tools than if you could park close
tell 'em to put the can next to his office window
Quote from: Diomedes on April 08, 2008, 07:52:49 PM
tell 'em to put the can next to his office window
....as well as the job john.
Quote from: FastFreddie on April 08, 2008, 07:33:52 AM
BTW, watch out for cougars in Los Gatos.
Nice reference.
We started the process to recall approximately 1700 Marines back on active duty today. Probably around 1000 of them will clear the screening and will actually get recalled. Of that 1000, about 700 of them will go to Iraq/Afghanistan. The remainder will be lucky in that they will still spend a year+ back on active duty, but they won't be required to deploy.
Needless to say, there's about 1700 people out there who are going to be extremely pissed off with me tomorrow when they recieve a letter from me saying that they'll be coming back. I expect the next 2 months of my life to really suck.
at least be thankful your life is better than the stories about your life
And, the Google dream is dead.
That sucks man
Quote from: Father Demon on April 18, 2008, 01:32:37 PM
And, the Google dream is dead.
You probably would not have been paid enough to make up for the big move and the cost of living increase anyway.
I hope you have other avenues with good companies still open to you.
Quote from: FastFreddie on April 18, 2008, 01:43:59 PM
Quote from: Father Demon on April 18, 2008, 01:32:37 PM
And, the Google dream is dead.
You probably would not have been paid enough to make up for the big move and the cost of living increase anyway.
I hope you have other avenues with good companies still open to you.
Agree. I wanted an offer letter just to show it off, even if I didn't take the job.
Still in advanced interviews with a great company, neighbor.
Quote from: Father Demon on April 18, 2008, 01:46:49 PM
Still in advanced interviews with a great company, neighbor.
Don't expect me to do the things Sarge does for you, weirdo.
the market's reaction to the decision not to hire Demon (http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=newsarchive&sid=aZqCo3SBFi1g)
(http://ichart.finance.yahoo.com/w%20GOOG)
One of Google's perks for their employees is that they allow each employee to use 20% of their work time to think about, collaborate on, and attempt to create a new venture or new product that Google can use. Gmail, Google Maps, Google Docs & Spreadsheets all came from this 20% time.
During my interview, my hiring-manager-to-be asked what I would do with my 20% time. Knowing that question would be asked, I had given it some thought. I answered that I would work on a social networking site geared towards older people, with all kinds of music and video content online. The key would be the content, and I even addressed how Google would need to work within the parameters of the copyright laws for both, and work in concert with the recording and movie owners. He asked a couple of clarifying questions, and that part of the conversation was over in about 2 minutes.
Today, I see this (http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20080423/wr_nm/getback_dc_2).
At least it wasn't Google that came out with it.
It is widely reported that 20% time is a myth, especially when projects are on deadline.
the hiring manager dude told me that 20% time really equates to 120% time, since they are all very busy.
Quote from: Father Demon on April 23, 2008, 09:38:30 AM
One of Google's perks for their employees is that they allow each employee to use 20% of their work time to think about, collaborate on, and attempt to create a new venture or new product that Google can use. Gmail, Google Maps, Google Docs & Spreadsheets all came from this 20% time.
During my interview, my hiring-manager-to-be asked what I would do with my 20% time. Knowing that question would be asked, I had given it some thought. I answered that I would work on a social networking site geared towards older people, with all kinds of music and video content online. The key would be the content, and I even addressed how Google would need to work within the parameters of the copyright laws for both, and work in concert with the recording and movie owners. He asked a couple of clarifying questions, and that part of the conversation was over in about 2 minutes.
Today, I see this (http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20080423/wr_nm/getback_dc_2).
At least it wasn't Google that came out with it.
QuoteNew social network targets older music fans
...GetBack Media, a social network targeted at people over age 35, is set to launch Wednesday stocked with music and TV content.
I'm not dead yet!
I got a new job today. Gubment appraiser. Decent pay, crazy excellent benefits. I sold my soul and I'm happier about it than a taterskin fan at a NAMBLA convention.
I love my job but I'm thinking about leaving because Boston is the armpit of the planet. I updated my resume on Monster and now my phone won't stop ringing. I know it's my own damn fault but can't these clowns call after business hours? I mean, I've got a job here people.
Quote from: rjs246 on May 07, 2008, 02:25:17 PM
I love my job but I'm thinking about leaving because Boston is the armpit of the planet. I updated my resume on Monster and now my phone won't stop ringing. I know it's my own damn fault but can't these clowns call after business hours? I mean, I've got a job here people.
I can get you a job at BAC :)
Does it involve dismantling the entire company and launching their employees and share-holders into space?
Quote from: rjs246 on May 07, 2008, 02:30:24 PM
Does it involve dismantling the entire company and launching their employees and share-holders into space?
Speaking of NASA...
Quote from: Rome on May 07, 2008, 02:20:55 PM
I got a new job today. Gubment appraiser. Decent pay, crazy excellent benefits. I sold my soul and I'm happier about it than a taterskin fan at a NAMBLA convention.
hope the new job doesn't interfere with your CF time. Oh wait, it a govt job...never mind.
i told them that i'd need at least four hours out of each work day to dazzle you clowns with my linguistic virtuosity.
they told me to stop using unnecessarily big words and to shut the farg up otherwise.
in other words, it's just like here!
Got stuck working late tonight trying to upgrade my system. Unix sucks sometimes.... kill -9!
The first two days of my new job went well. I found out that I'm a "probie" though which basically means for the next six months I won't actually be doing much except gofer work. Whatever. A paycheck's a paycheck and getting six months worth of paychecks will allow for two things. First, the market can improve which would mean that I'd probably be able to restart my business. Second, even if the market doesn't improve I can still keep looking for another job while getting paid to do this one.
I had a call from a company in the private sector for an interview but I blew it off because it wasn't that much better than this gig plus getting a gubment job all but ensures you that you'll keep it unless you're a total retard. Ironic, I know, considering most of my posts.
Quote from: Rome on May 28, 2008, 06:29:10 PM
The first two days of my new job went well. I found out that I'm a "probie" though which basically means for the next six months I won't actually be doing much except gofer work. Whatever. A paycheck's a paycheck and getting six months worth of paychecks will allow for two things. First, the market can improve which would mean that I'd probably be able to restart my business. Second, even if the market doesn't improve I can still keep looking for another job while getting paid to do this one.
I had a call from a company in the private sector for an interview but I blew it off because it wasn't that much better than this gig plus getting a gubment job all but ensures you that you'll keep it unless you're a total retard. Ironic, I know, considering most of my posts.
I threw in an application for a government job. I like how all the salary ranges are public. Plus, government is good, I was told somewhere by someone.
My current job's fine. It doesn't hurt to poke around.
Total Retard
Demon's last day in the office (http://www.breitbart.tv/html/108653.html)
fail
Got an awesome job opportunity today!
QuoteGood Day,
We offer a part time job on your computer.
Job Description:
We will provide you with the texts and you will correct the texts as an english speaking person and send them back to us. Just correct grammar and spell mistakes, nothing else.
Salary:
We don't have a fixed salary for this vacancy. We will pay you $7.00 for every 1Kb of the corrected text. You will get paid at the END of each month. Every month your salary will be different as it depends on your activity.
Example: If you correct about 5Kb of texts per day you will get over $1000.00 at the end of the month.
Requirements:
- Location: USA
- Age: 24+
- Home computer, e-mail address and Microsoft Word
- Responsibility
__________
FULL NAME:
HOME ADDRESS:
CITY, STATE, ZIP CODE:
Phone number (home or cell, but SHOULD BE available any day time):
E-MAIL:
AGE:
OCCUPATION:
EDUCATION:
AVAILABLE HOUR TO WORK WITH US:
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As soon as we revise your aplication we will contact you within 24 hours.
If you have any additional questions, feel free to ask.
Awaiting for your application.
With respect
Dating Union
I figure I could start by correcting all the texts in this email to prove my worth, and start getting CASH MONEY right after that!
With respect,
Dating Union.
Just to let you all know, I go back to work on August 11. 8)
Quote from: Father Demon on June 30, 2008, 10:50:08 AMstart getting CASH MONEY right after that!
Better hurry up. They only pay at the END of each month.
QuoteAs soon as we revise your aplication...
ah, so they're going to change the mailing address anyway. No checks for us. :(
Alright, so I just graduated from Wake a few months ago and I'm self-employed as a sales rep for manufacturing and electronic companies--my mother has been running the company for the past 25 years. The flexibility is good and the pay is borderline incredible for my age (will be 6 figures shortly), but the problem is I'm not sure I like it (and my mother is my boss.....). Conversely, I actually have a degree in education/history, and spent the last 6 months student teaching in a HS, something that I actually enjoy. I don't know whether this is more of a question or a rant, but I'm sort of torn here between putting up with this because of its benefits, or doing something I like where I make substantially less money.
Tough call...
If possible, perhaps you can stick it out for a year doing this all the while saving money up? That way you'll have a nice chunk to fall back on while you do the teaching thing.
Do not underestimate the value of being in a job you like. When waking up for work becomes a grind and you look for ways to avoid it...you've got to move on and find something you love to do.
Teaching history? Nothing better. 8)
Quote from: Eagles_Legendz on July 28, 2008, 11:32:44 PM
Alright, so I just graduated from Wake a few months ago and I'm self-employed as a sales rep for manufacturing and electronic companies--my mother has been running the company for the past 25 years. The flexibility is good and the pay is borderline incredible for my age (will be 6 figures shortly), but the problem is I'm not sure I like it (and my mother is my boss.....). Conversely, I actually have a degree in education/history, and spent the last 6 months student teaching in a HS, something that I actually enjoy. I don't know whether this is more of a question or a rant, but I'm sort of torn here between putting up with this because of its benefits, or doing something I like where I make substantially less money.
Working for parents or in-laws FTL.
Get out. Do something else.
I'll trade jobs with you E_L
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on July 28, 2008, 11:38:28 PM
Tough call...
If possible, perhaps you can stick it out for a year doing this all the while saving money up? That way you'll have a nice chunk to fall back on while you do the teaching thing.
Do not underestimate the value of being in a job you like. When waking up for work becomes a grind and you look for ways to avoid it...you've got to move on and find something you love to do.
That's the current plan right now. I think I'm going to be doing this for the next year and seeing if it grows on me at all, while hopefully saving up some money to fall back on. Potentially passing on such a substantial salary though -- not easy to do. The good news is within a year or two my mother plans on retiring, so I would literally be running it myself then.
Don't forget the experience you get from working there a year to two. Then, if you like sales but not the atmosphere ("Billy.. Did you make that sale? Did you clean your room?"), you can take the experience and the connections you will make (never ever underestimate the value of connections), and find a job that is something more in line with what you can get excited about. Make some bank, bank some bank, and then keep your experience and find a job elsewhere - My two cents.
Also - while teaching is noble and honor worthy, it pays for shtein, you put up with smart-mouth kids, and you'll have bureaucracy out the ass. Plus, you'll be lumped in with people like Geo {Shiver}.
At least I have a job, slacker! :D
I'm doing just fine sucking off the teat of Show-Me State's Free Money program!
:)
This motherfarger sitting next to me smells so farging bad today I want to hurl myself out of a window.
Better yet, hurl him out the window.
I had the most unprofessional and bizarre interview ever last week. I had already interviewed with two of my peers-to-be if I was hired, and an RVP that used to oversee the group I was interviewing to join. My friend is a director there, but he told me I was up against a guy who was friends with all three people currently in the group (the two peers and the hiring manager). I knew it was long odds, but what the hell.
After doing very well on the first two interviews (my friend got the feedback), I had to interview with the hiring manager. He really threw me with a couple of questions. Not technical or experience questions, but strange questions. Questions that threw me (I'm paraphrasing):
1) I need to make sure you'll fit in here. My group is very close, and we tend to go way past HR guidelines a lot of times. We're not sleeping together or anything like that, but pretty much nothing is out of the question. We don't really follow the HR rules. How do you feel about that?
- How the hell do I answer that question? Something like "Not sleeping together?? Well, then forget this job!!" or maybe "I love to skirt HR rules. You can expect a big giant lawsuit from SOMEBODY if I'm working there!!" or maybe "That won't fly. And if that continues if I'm there, I'll be filing complaints left and right!!"
2) I see you were military for 10 years. We're not a real militant organization, and not real structured. Someone with that background may not like how we operate. When it comes to rules and regulations, certain ones can be broken. Does this sound like you would fit in?"
- Again, a double edged sword for an answer. What the hell?
3) How many accounts do you think you can effectively manage?
- My answer was "Well, that's a tricky question since I don't the details about how an account is managed, what the time constraints are, the level of engagement with a vendor based on their importance, and other important pieces of information. I will tell you that as a sales engineer, I was involved in the management and care-and-feeding of anywhere from 5 at a time to upwards of 20.:
-- His follow up question: "That's not what I meant. I meant, what is a realistic number of accounts you should be able to manage at one time? I am looking for a specific number, and you gave me a range. But that's OK, I think your answer tells me enough."
- WTF???
I then ask if a face-to-face interview was still on the table, as discussed with the RVP. His answer was that he would only bring someone down for F2F interviews if he was going to offer him the position, and FOR RIGHT NOW don't save any time on your calendar for a trip on my account". The way he said it, I couldn't tell if he meant a) you're not getting the job, or b) if I make a decision to hire you, I'll let you know then.
He also told me that I should expect to hear from him in about two weeks, no matter what his decision. My feeling was that he had already decided to make an offer to the friend of the group, and needed another interview to complete his due diligence with his bosses. If for some reason the other guy turned down the offer, I was Plan B. I heard from my buddy today that they are indeed offering the position to the other guy, just as I suspected. The feedback he got from the hiring manager was that I was "an awesome candidate, but the timing was all wrong" - meaning the timing of his friend wanting a new job, too.
To make matters worse, my friend took my feedback of the interview to the CEO (it's a company about 50 people big) and asked if this is the type of questions they should be asking on an interview. So now, the manager is going to call me this week for being unprofessional. Yeah, this isn't awkward.
I hear the Republican VP nomination gig might be opening up again soon, Demon. There's an opportunity for you!
No one in my family is pregnant, so I may qualify.
Call you for being unprofessional? Gotta hear how that goes down. You don't owe him anything and you don't work for him but at the same time no need top burn bridges. I guess I'd attempt to take the high ground no matter what. No way of knowing what his tone will be.
How did you answer the first two questions? Sometimes questions like that are asked as a test. Psych 101 bullshtein.
Quote3) How many accounts do you think you can effectively manage?
- My answer was "Well, that's a tricky question since I don't the details about how an account is managed, what the time constraints are, the level of engagement with a vendor based on their importance, and other important pieces of information. I will tell you that as a sales engineer, I was involved in the management and care-and-feeding of anywhere from 5 at a time to upwards of 20.:
-- His follow up question: "That's not what I meant. I meant, what is a realistic number of accounts you should be able to manage at one time? I am looking for a specific number, and you gave me a range. But that's OK, I think your answer tells me enough."
- WTF???
I dont think you could have answered that question any more correct/professionally. If you gave him a number, he would of asked you how you managed that number...and you would of said based on the logistics of these accounts I had to....
His answer to you there was farging garbage....and Im a little pissed. Give me his number on his business card right now
yeah its probably better off you don't work with a douche like this. although the no rules, bone everyone in the office atmosphere sounds awesome.
As I think more about this you didn't want that job. As a job candidate you got caught up in politics. If someone who doesn't even work there gets caught up in an office pissing contest it can't be a healthy place to work.
Quite frankly, I would have accepted the offer for a paycheck and health insurance. But I wouldn't have scaled back my search at all.
As to the first questions, I talked mostly about how I enjoy small companies and work groups because it affords the opportunity to get to know people more personally than in a large environment. I also mentioned that I understood policies and procedures should be living documents, so changing the way a business or group operates is never a bad thing, as long as some diligence is performed. I stood the hell away from even mentioning HR in my answer.
Great answers!
DEMON FOR PREZ!
We've already got an old man republican running, no need for another.
In my second interview for the shtein job I have now I was asked what my biggest weakness was. At that point I didn't give a damn if I got the job or not so rather than give a faggy answer like "I tend to work too many hours" I said, "You mean other than single malt scotch?" A few days after I started working, my district director and I were shooting the shtein and he told me it was the best answer he'd ever heard at an interview. He did say that the two women in the interview didn't think it was funny but the three guys all loved it.
Meh. I should have said "scat porn".
women suck at funny
Quote from: SunMo on September 02, 2008, 09:18:14 PM
women suck at funny (http://www.concretefield.com/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=4)
I'll need some more evidence to come to a definitive conclusion on that.
Quote from: FastFreddie on September 02, 2008, 09:21:08 PM
Quote from: SunMo on September 02, 2008, 09:18:14 PM
women suck at funny (http://www.concretefield.com/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=4)
I'll need some more evidence to come to a definitive conclusion on that.
what do you expect from a 6 yearold
went on an interview last week for a job i saw online. wasn't even actively looking but it seemed like a really good opportunity so i said farg it why not. i've basically been bored with my current job for a couple months anyway. anyway, late yesterday afternoon they offered me the job. it comes with a good five figure raise but i won't be travelling at all, which is actually a downer for me. but i'm gonna be running the shop in this place.
the funniest part is that i didn't bother to even show up to my actual job yesterday. i was playing mario kart in my underwear at 5PM as I talked to them over the phone.
this story gets funnier if you had your Mario Kart undies on...and alot sexier
who plays mario kart without mario kart undies on? i thought that was a given.
Unemployment funds drying up in some states (http://www.cnn.com/2008/US/10/08/jobless.claims/index.html?eref=rss_topstories)
QuoteThe demand for unemployment benefits across the country has put a strain on state unemployment funds, with such funds in at least 10 states facing insolvency in 2009, according to a policy group.
I wish I had a job to hate. I have a little project that I'm going to have to do this weekend at a place of business, other than that, I've been home all week and it looks like I'll be home all next week.
And the goddamn gubment is giving the people that caused this billions of dollars.
Web-cam interviews (http://www.forbes.com/2008/11/18/interview-internet-webcam-lead-cx_tw_1118bizbasics.html?partner=yahootix)
It sounds horrible.
Quote
The job candidate then logs into a server to get the interview questions, which appear on the computer screen. You've got 30 seconds to read the question and a set amount of time (usually up to three minutes) to answer on camera.
Once the interview starts, there's no turning back. You can't edit your answers, and the questions--usually about seven questions--just keep coming, like them or not.
I was driving home from the office today and realized that I'm a middle-aged man working in a sort of dead-end job making shtein wages and dealing with iceholes I can't stand, and I'll be doing that for at least the next 20 years. If I'm lucky.
You made your bed now stfu and sleep in it.
Quote from: Rome on November 18, 2008, 09:50:50 PM
I was driving home from the office today and realized that I'm a middle-aged man working in a sort of dead-end job making shtein wages and dealing with iceholes I can't stand, and I'll be doing that for at least the next 20 years. If I'm lucky.
excellent! now
my middle-aged life doesn't seem so bad.
Quote from: Rome on November 18, 2008, 09:50:50 PM
I was driving home from the office today and realized that I'm a middle-aged man working in a sort of dead-end job making shtein wages and dealing with iceholes I can't stand, and I'll be doing that for at least the next 20 years. If I'm lucky.
Of course, Demon would
kill for that job right now. Just be happy you're employed at all.
I have to lay off four of my employees next week. Right before the holidays, at at time of the year when people don't hire under the best of circumstances, in the worst economy since the great depression. I then have to figure out how to do the same work with four fewer people. While all of that is depressing enough, it's really depressing to hope against all hopes that I don't lose this job that I really don't like in the first place. Awful.
We should tyler durden this thread and post what each of us would rather be doing if money wasn't such a necessity.
We can then embrace the large ball of regret that will explode in our faces after we realize we didn't follow our dreams.
keeping my family fed, clothed and housed is among my many dreams.
i'd like to own a liquor store down at the beach. Steady money, and the beach all year
If money wasn't a necessity, I'm pretty sure I wouldn't work.
i'd also love to be a porn producer. its my backup plan if banking doesnt work
Sail around the world...
Travel, read, exercise, bone, drink, go back to school to study something interesting rather than something practical.
I'd like to learn how to sail ocean yachts. I think being a captain of say an America's Cup team would be frigging awesome. I'd also like to open up a bookstore/cafe/bar in Dublin.
Dublin, or Upper Dublin?
Sure
I've sailed 50ft sailboats, its very challenging, but a great time. Nothing like the Chesapeake Bay in September
Being in the middle of the country I'd just take learning to sail at this point..
Get good enough at golf to get to the Nike tour. Pros are too complicated. Nike tour doesn't pay shtein, but you get to play golf for a living, change towns on a weekly basis, and eat out every night. Sounds pretty good to me.
Quote from: rjs246 on November 26, 2008, 03:01:03 PM
Travel, read, exercise, bone, drink, go back to school to study something interesting rather than something practical.
I'm realizing that this post was stupid.
Travel: I've already done a ton of that.
Read: I continue to do a ton of this.
Bone: I have sex.
Drink: Hahaha. Yes.
So really, I would just go back to school. Maybe I should just do that anyway.
i've done a tone of reading as well...cheers
I already have my degree. Therefore, I'm donne going to school.
Quote from: SunMo on November 26, 2008, 08:09:01 PM
i've done a tone of reading as well...cheers
You're super.
Quote from: Rome on November 18, 2008, 09:50:50 PM
I was driving home from the office today and realized that I'm a middle-aged man working in a sort of dead-end job making shtein wages and dealing with iceholes I can't stand, and I'll be doing that for at least the next 20 years. If I'm lucky.
I'm with ya there. Maybe not shtein wages, but not stellar. I know I should feel lucky to be in a relatively good situation, but I find myself wondering what life would be like away from the grind. I've calculated what severance I'd get if they laid me off, and what I'd do with the cash (no, not hookers and blow). I certainly won't quit, but if I could get cut loose with even a mediocre parachute...well, I wouldn't cry about it.
I'd really like to go to culinary school and learn how to cook like a chef. I luv eating, and I luv cooking. I like the looks on my kids faces when some recipe off of the internet makes them get that face like when your eating the first bite of your favorite dish. I'd never want to work in a restaraunt, or do it for a living, but there are days when I can spend most of my time in the kitchen, like when your cooking a pot of chili and you keep adding this and adding that, and stirring it while it simmers.
Today will be somewhat one of those days, when I get to deep frying the 22 lb. turkey.
Quote from: shorebird on November 27, 2008, 11:35:17 AM
I'd really like to go to culinary school and learn how to cook like a chef. I luv eating, and I luv cooking. I like the looks on my kids faces when some recipe off of the internet makes them get that face like when your eating the first bite of your favorite dish. I'd never want to work in a restaraunt, or do it for a living, but there are days when I can spend most of my time in the kitchen, like when your cooking a pot of chili and you keep adding this and adding that, and stirring it while it simmers.
Today will be somewhat one of those days, when I get to deep frying the 22 lb. turkey.
So you want to be somebody's bitch.
Happy Thanksgiving!
Quote from: Philly Crew on November 27, 2008, 12:27:52 PM
So you want to be somebody's bitch.
Happy Thanksgiving!
Ha! Yeah, as long as I was the bitch to a female counterpart.
Quote from: shorebird on November 27, 2008, 01:46:59 PM
Quote from: Philly Crew on November 27, 2008, 12:27:52 PM
So you want to be somebody's bitch.
Happy Thanksgiving!
Ha! Yeah, as long as I was the bitch to a female counterpart.
Yep. I hear Madonna is looking for a new young thing.....
Quote from: Philly Crew on November 28, 2008, 08:21:29 AM
Yep. I hear Madonna is looking for a new young thing.....
I don't think I'm quite as young as she would want.
Quote from: FastFreddie on November 26, 2008, 08:01:13 PM
Quote from: MadMarchHare on November 26, 2008, 07:40:50 PM
eat out every night
Be more specific.
HA. I meant at restaurants, where the worst you can get is the shteins or stomach flu.
... but the best you can get is fat.
I'll take the alternative please.
I love my job. Ditch digging is good.
I like my job and I'm still contemplating quitting and going back to school. Work is for the gays.
Quote from: rjs246 on November 26, 2008, 03:01:03 PM
Travel, read, exercise, bone, drink, go back to school to study something interesting rather than something practical.
Wow. I decided to quit my job and do all of this about 18 months ago.
Finishing my first semester next week and leaving directly afterwords for Oaxaca, Mexico on the schools dime.
Quote from: rjs246 on November 29, 2008, 06:18:41 PM
I like my job and I'm still contemplating quitting and going back to school. Work is for the gays.
Welcome to my world.
Well they announced job cuts today. They're cutting the department in half. 1800 people total on the street.
Tough times to be job hunting.
Looks like I'll be sponging off of the government almost immediatly as I head to the unemployment line. Yay big government programs!
Sat at a bar with my bosses this afternoon and I'm already pretty well F'd up. farg it! For who for what!
fargers!
10 days off the one-year anniversary of when I got cut.
Welcome to the Societal Sponge Organization!
Merry Christmas!
A couple thousand (worldwide) coming off the payroll in my company this week. Strange as it sounds, I wish I was one of them, as I would get a 6 months pay as severance, and that would go a long way toward starting my own business.
Maybe you could take one for the corporation and tactfully volunteer to be laid off?
my biggest worry right now is whether the president is going to give the feds the day after xmas off
if it doesnt happen i blame all you people...the more scabs that get laid off the worse it looks for us to be getting a free paid day...thanks a lot
Getting lots of interest in the job market anyway. There's also no way my bosses (what's left of them) Don't know I'm looking. I'll be hitting them up for a recomendation this afternoon.
I had to let three people go last week, another one in a few weeks. And I get to worry about it myself. Tough times, no doubt about it.
Quote from: Diomedes on December 09, 2008, 09:21:17 AM
Maybe you could take one for the corporation and tactfully volunteer to be laid off?
I tried that a couple of years ago, and freaked out my boss. A long time ago, I vowed to make myself indispensable...and it appears as though I've done it too well.
From our CEO today:
Quote....It is incumbent of the management to position the company to weather the storm. As a result, my senior management team has been working diligently over the past few weeks identifying cost cutting measures and realigning their departments, which could lead to downsizing or eliminating certain positions in early 2009. So in lieu of my usual year-end holiday message, I thought it more prudent to notify you ahead of time of what will be forthcoming in 2009.
Despite the uncertain future, I want to take this opportunity to thank each of you for your contributions over the past year. Best wishes for a happy holiday season.
Merry Christmas. You won't have a job in 3 months. :-D
lol, he might as well say the two bobs have arrived
wait is anyone hiring? im gonna need a real job soon.
It sucks everywhere (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news?slug=ap-nfllayoffs&prov=ap&type=lgns)
QuoteNEW YORK (AP)—The recession has hit the NFL.
The league said Tuesday it is cutting more than 10 percent of its headquarters staff in response to the downturn in the nation's economy.
Commissioner Roger Goodell announced the cuts in a memo to league employees. The NFL is eliminating about 150 of its staff of 1,100 in New York, NFL Films in New Jersey and television and Internet production facilities in Los Angeles.
MLB.com too. They laid off Ken Mandel, the Phillies writer....
He was nearly Spadaro awful.
Dave got a raise
All these companies laying off do realize that they're laying off consumers who would buy their products right? Right?
Isn't it the government's job to give people money, so that they can buy stuff and keep their employers in business? Maybe not. Now they goverment is skipping the middleman and giving money directly to the companies.
BTW...being a pseudo-systems person in my company, I get internal e-mail lists of people being let go, so that I can update user access levels and such. I got a 200-name list on Monday, and another 100 yesterday. Supposedly this might extend into the next several months. Fun!
We all got an email today telling us not to come in Monday till our allotted 10 minute meeting to determine our fate.
Lovely...
By Executive Order dated Friday, December 12, 2008 (click on the link below), the Executive Departments and Agencies of the Federal Government are closed on Friday, December 26, 2008.
As soon as the information is available, the Human Resources Branch will be addressing "policy" and procedures concerning leave, alternative work schedules and electronically transferred salary deposits.
what a relief, I'm sooooo happy for you!
Quote from: ice grillin you on December 12, 2008, 01:15:35 PM
By Executive Order dated Friday, December 12, 2008 (click on the link below), the Executive Departments and Agencies of the Federal Government are closed on Friday, December 26, 2008.
.....off with pay?
like a motherfarger
in all honesty i do think its an outrage that with hundreds of thousands of people being laid off that the entire federal govt is getting a free paid day just because
put up a website saying so and encourage people to donate a day's pay by setting the example and donating yours
or stfu
nope
now excuse me while i go tear up the leave slip that i had put in for the 26th
thats it
im working for the govt
Quote from: ice grillin you on December 12, 2008, 02:05:19 PM
like a motherfarger
in all honesty i do think its an outrage that with hundreds of thousands of people being laid off that the entire federal govt is getting a free paid day just because
I'll be more than happy to take a piece of that pie when the Eagles whip up on the friggen' taterskins.
I dont work for the govt but I have off the 26th and its paid.
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on December 12, 2008, 03:22:31 PM
I dont work for the govt but I have off the 26th and its paid.
Same
Have to be at worki Monday at 7:15 AM to find out if I still have a job. I'll know within 10 minutes.
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on December 12, 2008, 03:22:31 PM
and its paid.
it has to be....how else are you gonna pay me for my day off
Quote from: MDS on December 12, 2008, 02:11:30 PM
thats it
im working for the govt
you do know that you dont get off the day after thanksgiving
Thats what vacation days are for.
Gimme a govt job, Havas.
after next week i get about 4 weeks in a row of 4 day weekends.
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on December 12, 2008, 04:03:15 PM
Thats what vacation days are for.
Gimme a govt job, Havas.
take a number
http://www.usajobs.gov/
i wish i could get govt jobs for people...id sell them like blagoyovich hotcakes and would have retired long ago
nonsense, dont need that.
newspapers are hiring tons of people
HALLA-fargING-JUHA!!
I have, in my inbox, two - count 'em, two - job offers that let me stay in St. Louis, and stay in my field (more or less). The two offers was partly by design. I knew for the past several weeks that I was getting an offer from one of them, and as soon as I did I called the other company to let them know I had it, but I wanted to keep talking to them because I was excited about what we were talking about. They did exactly that, telling me they wanted to bring me on, and they were going to speed up the process. So, they put me an offer together without having my final interview that was scheduled.
I'm leaning heavily towards one over the other, but I have to try to negotiate a couple of things. I have until the end of this week to accept one or the other, and the start date for both is the second week of January. If I start on the one I am leaning towards, I will start Jan 5th - which is one year and one day after my last paid date with my past company. Thankfully I've had some contract and consulting work here and there, but this feels really good to have two companies vying for my affection.
:yay
Good deal, Demon. Glad you're making headway in this economy.
Quote from: Father Demon on December 13, 2008, 12:22:50 PM
HALLA-fargING-JUHA!!
I have, in my inbox, two - count 'em, two - job offers that let me stay in St. Louis, and stay in my field (more or less). The two offers was partly by design. I knew for the past several weeks that I was getting an offer from one of them, and as soon as I did I called the other company to let them know I had it, but I wanted to keep talking to them because I was excited about what we were talking about. They did exactly that, telling me they wanted to bring me on, and they were going to speed up the process. So, they put me an offer together without having my final interview that was scheduled.
I'm leaning heavily towards one over the other, but I have to try to negotiate a couple of things. I have until the end of this week to accept one or the other, and the start date for both is the second week of January. If I start on the one I am leaning towards, I will start Jan 5th - which is one year and one day after my last paid date with my past company. Thankfully I've had some contract and consulting work here and there, but this feels really good to have two companies vying for my affection.
:yay
:yay
I'll gladly take the sloppy seconds job, Demon.
St. Louis would be an improvement for you...
Quote from: Father Demon on December 13, 2008, 12:22:50 PM
HALLA-fargING-JUHA!!
I have, in my inbox, two - count 'em, two - job offers that let me stay in St. Louis, and stay in my field (more or less). The two offers was partly by design. I knew for the past several weeks that I was getting an offer from one of them, and as soon as I did I called the other company to let them know I had it, but I wanted to keep talking to them because I was excited about what we were talking about. They did exactly that, telling me they wanted to bring me on, and they were going to speed up the process. So, they put me an offer together without having my final interview that was scheduled.
I'm leaning heavily towards one over the other, but I have to try to negotiate a couple of things. I have until the end of this week to accept one or the other, and the start date for both is the second week of January. If I start on the one I am leaning towards, I will start Jan 5th - which is one year and one day after my last paid date with my past company. Thankfully I've had some contract and consulting work here and there, but this feels really good to have two companies vying for my affection.
:yay
Congratulations, "sir."
movin' on up...
Quote from: Diomedes on December 13, 2008, 04:22:20 PM
St. Louis would be an improvement for you...
Says the guy who lives in farging Baltimore.
Great news, Demon. Congrats.
Went into work to find out my fate this morning. There was a conference room with about 20 of us in it. Turns out all 20 of us are whats the new Network Operations department. So I have a position in the new company and they're not cutting salary or benefits for at least a year that they know of. Except the pension. Everyone knows that is gone, or at least it won't get anymore paid into it.
Kind of sad to see so many folks I've worked with the last 10 years get laid off 2 weeks before the holidays. It doesn't leave a nice positive happy feeling about the company I work for that's for sure. At least I can take my time and look for a descent job and not feel rushed about it.
Quote from: Phanatic on December 15, 2008, 01:21:04 PM
I can take my time and look for a descent job
Mining? Spelunking?
Well I won't be working as an editor anytime soon.
Well, it's official. I just accepted a position with a company based out of S. Carolina, but get to work out of my house. It will be pretty heavy on travel - probably 60-70% for 6 months as I get myself introduced and ingrained into all the sales offices, then will settle down to about 30-40%, which is a lot easier to handle.
I start on Jan 5th - one year and one day after my last paid day at the other job.
Good news, not least because you'll be posting less.
Oh no we actually post more from work then from home I'm sure.
Congrats!
And some people even post mobile style
likewise those people should kill themselves
Dude, if this job is in Charleston, I would be on the first bus out of St. Louis. Very nice city.
Greenville, not Charleston. It wouldn't matter anyway - the travel is all over the eastern half of the US, not to SC.
Greenville is nice. It has an airport to service the 20-30 people who live there.
Interviewed for a job this morning that and I'm pretty confident that I'll get an offer. I'm just worried about the pay. They like to pay less on base salary and offer quarterly bonuses based company and personal performance. From what I understand they've never really had a problem with not getting bonuses and in 'hard' times the bonus was just below 15% of your base. On average the bonus ranges from 15% - 21% of base. Might be kind of cool to live off the base and use the bonuses for extra and cushion and shtuff. Anyone else work with this type of thing?
nm
Quote from: Phanatic on December 22, 2008, 01:18:06 PM
Interviewed for a job this morning that and I'm pretty confident that I'll get an offer. I'm just worried about the pay. They like to pay less on base salary and offer quarterly bonuses based company and personal performance. From what I understand they've never really had a problem with not getting bonuses and in 'hard' times the bonus was just below 15% of your base. On average the bonus ranges from 15% - 21% of base. Might be kind of cool to live off the base and use the bonuses for extra and cushion and shtuff. Anyone else work with this type of thing?
My bonus target is 25%, so yes.
Times don't get much tougher than they are right now, and I still got over 18.5% this year.
That's comforting. They kept stressing that they pay less base salary because of the bonuses which scares me. I'm willing to come down about 10k on my salary with the bonuses (which would put me ahead possibly) and that's about it. Though I know through the experience of others that there's a threshold there that they won't cross and that 10k puts it there. I won't talk about any of that stuff until they say they're interested though which they have not said yet. I have an IT customer service assessment test to take yet.
It really depends on the place. My last company set "targets" at about 12%, then reduced that number by about 3% based on business performance (amazing, the last quarter before bonuses was always bad!), then only gave that target amount (now 9% or so) to about 5% of the people. The rest got maybe 5%.
So, the best thing to do is to ask people who already work there, if you can. Or check glassdoor.com.
The place was 16th on computer worlds best places to work in IT but thanks for the site link. I'll check that out too.
Company was not on that site. Hmmm...
I will be leaving the beer business officially. I've taken another job and I'll be giving my notice Monday. Guess I have to write some sort of resignation letter.
Keep it short. No one cares.
More gin!
Never liked Gin. Though Gin and Squirt is very good.
I'm a fan of Vodka for the hard stuff I think.
im starting fulltime as a writer at an email marketing software company on monday. i get a yearly salary, paid vacation, benefits, etc. what the farg happened to me. is this life? is this what people do? im scared.
What will you be writing?
phone messages
"Mr. Smith, here is your coffee. Your messages are on your desk and the croissants are on the way!"
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on September 15, 2009, 04:28:04 PM
"Mr. Havas, here is your coffee. Your messages are on your desk and the croissants are on the way!"
:-D
lol working for havas would be great
but i think its writing blogs and ebook stuff and advertising/marketing stuff for companies. i dont know. it all happened very quickly.
Quote from: MDS on September 15, 2009, 05:07:30 PM
lol working for havas would be great
but i think its writing blogs and ebook stuff and advertising/marketing stuff for companies. i dont know. it all happened very quickly.
GSI Commerce?
i dont know what that is
its a company out in KOP, sounds like the same line of work. I have a few buddies that work there, doing advertising/marketing for the NFL/NHL/NBA
Quote from: MDS on September 15, 2009, 05:07:30 PMbut i think its writing blogs and ebook stuff and advertising/marketing stuff for companies. i dont know. it all happened very quickly.
sucking satan's cock for money, congrats
Quote from: MDS on September 15, 2009, 05:07:30 PM
lol working for havas would be great
but i think its writing blogs and ebook stuff and advertising/marketing stuff for companies. i dont know. it all happened very quickly.
lol at anyone who applies for a job and has no idea what the job actually is. what's worse, is that you went on an interview and didn't ask any questions about the job......or at least have them clearly answered.
i'm setting the over/under at 3 months until todd's back on the street.
bwhaha--aint that the truth
thanks....
Good luck, Todd. You have my support.
:yay
its not support i want, its hugs and kisses
Quote from: MDS on September 15, 2009, 05:07:30 PM
lol working for havas would be great
sippin vsop and doing lines of yay off my desk = friday happy hour
you bringing them to me = priceless
Congrats Todd. Welcome to the hell of corporate life!
So it sounds like you'll be writing stuff that gets sent to a spam "consumer-directed marketing" list and is deleted when it shows up in an inbox.....?
Quote from: BigEd76 on September 16, 2009, 11:31:28 AM
So it sounds like you'll be writing stuff that gets sent to a spam "consumer-directed marketing" list and is deleted when it shows up in an inbox.....?
so it'll be no different than when he posts something here and munson will be the only person to reply.
basically
though im pretty sure the stuff only goes to people in companies who's bosses pay for the stuff, so its not quite spam
you are an inherently angry human being. but i love it.
lol that didnt last long
fired already?
not really fired
i was still in training and had no clue what i was doing. they didnt really ever tell me i was wrong, just watched me answer things incorrectly for a week then say its not working out
so kind of like being fired, but i never actually got to what i was supposed to do, so....
now's a good time to grab your druggie roommate and start doing some rippers
you failed out of spam school?
LMAO
I'm proud of you son.
lol at "not really like i was fired"
um, you were fired
ha
is it normal to get fired after a week and a half? i didnt actually do any work. i was just training.
yes, misfits are regularly fired that quickly
what it means is you sat on your new blackberry all week, and didnt ask enough questions. Congrats
so should i just off myself?
wait until your mom is dead, no need to shtein all over her best efforts despite their obviously poor results
there's always crack
imma get you high today. cause it's friday. and you aint got no job. and you aint got shtein to do!
i just figured that movie out. it's top five in a category I call:
it can be funny to quote, not so much to watch
Quote from: Diomedes on September 30, 2009, 06:49:09 PM
wait until your mom is dead, no need to shtein all over her best efforts despite their obviously poor results
well then im six years too late
:sad face:
Quote from: Diomedes on September 30, 2009, 08:10:49 PM
i just figured that movie out. it's top five in a category I call:
it can be funny to quote, not so much to watch
i thought it was great to watch the first few times.....maybe 3 or 4. after that, it kind of loses it's luster. but that happens to a lot of movies that produce a lot of great quotes/lines.
the more movies chris tucker does that arent friday the better friday gets....its as good or better today than it was when it came out
its my number one all time comedy altho fletch is close and maybe seems like old times
chevy is the only comedic actor that can come close to matching what tucker did in friday
That last sentence literally made my farging eyes bleed out.
Sorry to hear about you getting shteincanned, Todd.
I don't know what's worse: gettin canned, my fantasy baseball team collapsing, or igy sharing his disastrous opinions on comedy with the world.
Thanks jay. I have one fan
FFL choke isn't really a choke because you were a 5-seed.
But losing your gig sucks. Even if they didn't really give you a fair shake. You got anything else lined up?
its a collapse when the red sox keel over and die and let roy halladay sleepwalk his way to a cg shutout. bad managing on my part.
im continuing to freelance for the delco times and hopefully another paper or two. next big thing will be the entertainment weekly internship in nyc in january. that i know i can do, but it could bankrupt/kill me. so well see.
EW internship, eh?
That's good stuff. Judging by the bankrupt thing, I assume it's an unpaid gig and you'll be footing the whole bill in expensive-ass NYC? Do they even give you any kind of stipend?
Delco Times...what are you writing, prep stuff? Any way you can work your way into the pro scene?
dude, internship in NYC?
i really hope you do have jew gold hidden somewhere on your person because I can't imagine you having enough money to stay for more than a month and a half up there.
its farging crazy.
as far as i know its $10 an hour for 35 hours a week. id have to commute from philly which would be a pain but affordable. magazines are still in decent shape, its newspapers that are finished. theyre not great, but they are surviving. though, they will be dead within a few decades. so right now its a slow death.
and yes, the ironic nature of my grandmother dieing is that ill get a little bit of money from her, so i should be able to keep my head above water. go jews.
the delco times thing is just freelancing for high school football games. i know someone over at the northeast times too so im gonna try and do some work there. not great $ but its something.
so why didnt you go to college for something worthwhile
because i literally cant do anything else
some would argue your not the best of writers.
i dont understand what dave murphy and andy martino have that you dont have. is the newspaper industry racist?
yea, theyre are like no jews in the media
lol
hotmovies.com wants someone to write reviews of movies and edit content on the site. they must work from the cc philly offices.
did i just...find my calling?
Quote from: MDS on October 05, 2009, 05:18:01 PM
hotmovies.com wants someone to write reviews of movies and edit content on the site. they must work from the cc philly offices.
did i just...find my calling?
No. You found my calling.
Quote from: MDS on October 05, 2009, 05:18:01 PM
hotmovies.com wants someone to write reviews of movies and edit content on the site. they must work from the cc philly offices.
did i just...find my calling?
if you're reviewing fag porn, then yes, you've found your calling.
There might be some gay stuff involved yes. Not that I'm averse to it already
I manage...well, managed...a communications team for a huge IT department in a company of about 130,000 people. The powers that be decided to merge all of IT around the world into one group, and is undergoing a HUGE reorg. A couple of weeks ago, quite a number of senior people were shown the door, and there's more to come.
Worse, the communications team is splitting into two groups and I've been allocated to the "other" team that's largely staying intact. So, after years of having significant management responsibility, I've been reduced to an individual contributor reporting to a junior guy...because he was already part of that team. Feels like a serious step back for someone who's been a documented high-performer every year.
I'm trying to figure out whether I care enough to be a squeaky wheel about it, because these are supposed to be wholly "new" teams...not people appended to existing teams.
I think the answer is to get a new job...except for two minor details-- 1) nobody is hiring, and 2) I don't want to do this shtein anywhere anymore.
farg!
I'm feeling worse about it as the day wears on. I need an escape hatch, but can't seem to find one.
Go back to school and make your wife support you. I seem to remember that you have a wife, right? Whatever. It's her turn now.
Good plan, but she doesn't make enough to support us. Like the idea, though.
So, start a business or buy a business? Discuss.
Move to the hills, get satellite television, buy guns, live off the land, watch the world destroy itself from the best seats in the house.
The government's always hiring.
i hear an email marketing software company is looking for a writer/content creator
Reduce your cost of living by adjusting your attitude about what you want/think you need.
Get a job doing something you like, even if it doesn't cover the cost of the above adjustment.
Bid your time, bust your ass, pinch pennies, do without. You'll be fine, so will the wife and son. Better than fine, actually.
all of that sounds horrible
open an Aikido training place
Quote from: jihadist monk on October 08, 2009, 07:49:57 PMall of that sounds horrible
i'm liking it much better than the hefty income which I "earned" sucking satan's cock for a living in my corporate pod, being held constantly responsible for things over which I had no control, suffering the ever constant reorgs and team training gimmicks, being forced to navigate the petty politics of people who do what they do solely for money, etc. etc.
that is hell
i was born and raised dirt poor...lack of money doesn't scare me. sugar tastes better when you can only have a teaspoon of it a day.
the list of ways to drop your high cost lifestyle and be happier is endless
the only reason you don't give up the soul killing job is fear of not having money, and that's a bad bad reason to spend your life doing something. either that or you're a slave to material wealth and the attention of others who worship it, which makes you human garbage and you should off yourself
what were you doing drowning babies for a living?
no joke, you make whatever you do sound like hell.
I'm with MURP
get out, take a chance on yourself, you'll do well
one thing is for sure: you're not gonna be lying on your death bed thinking "gee, I'm glad I spent all those irreplaceable hours days and months at the desk serving the corporate will, it was really worth it."
Quote from: jihadist monk on October 08, 2009, 09:50:26 PM
what were you doing drowning babies for a living?
no joke, you make whatever you do sound like hell.
ha, close. I was slowly drowning myself every day I spent with those people in those organizations. It was soul killing. No sun, no wind, no truth, no sweat, no integrity, no satisfaction...nothing worth having. Just money and lots and lots of scumbags.
When you're bullshtein job review requires you to evaluate how well you're progressing against your Main Effort to improve your Followership skills....run for your goddamn life.
Quote from: Diomedes on October 08, 2009, 09:47:26 PM
Quote from: jihadist monk on October 08, 2009, 07:49:57 PMall of that sounds horrible
i'm liking it much better than the hefty income which I "earned" sucking satan's cock for a living in my corporate pod, being held constantly responsible for things over which I had no control, suffering the ever constant reorgs and team training gimmicks, being forced to navigate the petty politics of people who do what they do solely for money, etc. etc.
that is hell
i was born and raised dirt poor...lack of money doesn't scare me. sugar tastes better when you can only have a teaspoon of it a day.
the list of ways to drop your high cost lifestyle and be happier is endless
the only reason you don't give up the soul killing job is fear of not having money, and that's a bad bad reason to spend your life doing something. either that or you're a slave to material wealth and the attention of others who worship it, which makes you human garbage and you should off yourself
I was born and raised without money too. But that has driven me to not want to live my adult life like that or whenI have kids for them to experience what I did. I want to be able to live nicely and provide them with things I didn't have. More importantly I don't want to not be able to pay my bills, which I saw a lot of growing up.
I do not live a life of extravagance though. I'm comfortable and don't waste my money.
But I do agree with working for "the man". I am easily angered these days with the life of being a company man. I got the shaft on something awhile back, something I felt I earned but was overlooked for in favor of a hired gun.
if the govt is the "man"....then i love the "man"
Yeah, I think I've gone from "I don't want to do this anymore" to "I can't do this anymore," which is a different beast. I've given a lot of thought to the dojo thing, but the financial model sort of sucks. I mean, the most you can get from a student is $100 a month, and by the time you factor in rent and insurance...there's not much left. That would have to be a side thing, because as a main source of income, I don't think it would work.
My tai chi instructor makes his living by using other people's facilities, doing senior centers during the day, and community rec programs in the evenings. I'm sure he doesn't make a ton, but at least he doesn't have to worry about property.
(I know it's a lot different from Aikido, what with teaching all the old folks and all...but I'm sure the model can be adapted.)
Quote from: Diomedes on October 08, 2009, 09:47:26 PM
the only reason you don't give up the soul killing job is fear of not having money, and that's a bad bad reason to spend your life doing something. either that or you're a slave to material wealth and the attention of others who worship it, which makes you human garbage and you should off yourself
Well, in my case, there is the rest of the family to consider. When I bring up dropping out, I get looks like I'm going to abandon them in the street or something.
I totally understand what you're saying, though.
"we want to bring you in for an interview" = can you write a story a week for $45?
farg NEWSPAPERS
Quote from: Susquehanna Birder on October 09, 2009, 10:25:45 AM
Quote from: Diomedes on October 08, 2009, 09:47:26 PM
the only reason you don't give up the soul killing job is fear of not having money, and that's a bad bad reason to spend your life doing something. either that or you're a slave to material wealth and the attention of others who worship it, which makes you human garbage and you should off yourself
Well, in my case, there is the rest of the family to consider. When I bring up dropping out, I get looks like I'm going to abandon them in the street or something.
I totally understand what you're saying, though.
You live in one of the richest countries in the world, in by far the richest time the world has ever seen.
Just by being who you are, you are richer than 98% of the people on this planet and 99.9999% of people who have ever lived.
Why spend your life trying to be a little higher or lower on that scale?
Your wife will get over it, and your kids will love you or hate you no matter what toys you buy them.
Quote from: methdeez on October 12, 2009, 05:55:42 PM
Quote from: Susquehanna Birder on October 09, 2009, 10:25:45 AM
Quote from: Diomedes on October 08, 2009, 09:47:26 PM
the only reason you don't give up the soul killing job is fear of not having money, and that's a bad bad reason to spend your life doing something. either that or you're a slave to material wealth and the attention of others who worship it, which makes you human garbage and you should off yourself
Well, in my case, there is the rest of the family to consider. When I bring up dropping out, I get looks like I'm going to abandon them in the street or something.
I totally understand what you're saying, though.
You live in one of the richest countries in the world, in by far the richest time the world has ever seen.
Just by being who you are, you are richer than 98% of the people on this planet and 99.9999% of people who have ever lived.
Why spend your life trying to be a little higher or lower on that scale?
Your wife will get over it, and your kids will love you or hate you no matter what toys you buy them.
It's not about trying to be higher or lower; it's about being able to pay the bills. With a steady income comes financial responsibility, and abandoning that without a sound plan of action is not very smart. The wife will support me, but not if I just chuck it all. And my kids are old enough that toys aren't the issue.
Anyway, I've been thinking on it, and I decided to sign up for a couple of SCORE seminars (starting a business, and making a business plan). Anybody ever been to one?
Never been to one, but I'd be interested to know what you think of them if you go.
so if the interview stipulates that dress is 'professional' and i show up w/out a sport jacket (but with the tie, shirt, slacks, shoes, etc.), is that basically a done deal right there? cause i dont own a sport jacket, theyre gay and uncomfortable.
buy a suit MDS, go to Boscovs if you want to save a few bucks, but if you want a job, dress up for it.
If you show up wearing a tie but no jacket, you look like a HS kid trying to get a job at a pharmacy
yea thats what i figured. i did that for the previous job i got, but spam companies arent real.
but they're pink slips are
well of course
and it wasnt no slip. it was just an awkward GTFO chat. i still get emails from them, too. my replacement is woman. i googled her. she is on facebook. exciting.
Quote from: ice grillin you on September 30, 2009, 09:13:59 PM
the more movies chris tucker does that arent friday the better friday gets....its as good or better today than it was when it came out
its my number one all time comedy altho fletch is close and maybe seems like old times
chevy is the only comedic actor that can come close to matching what tucker did in friday
This is why people love to take internet shteins on your internet face. Sorry IGY Smalls...Friday? Spaceballs was better than that.
if you don't wear a suit to a job interview, you're wasting your time and theirs
so lets the set the record straight: a suit is not a suit without a sport coat.
a suit is matching jacket and slacks
a sports coat is what guys like Dan Dierdorf pair with khakis
what dio says. Get a suit, and you have infinitely better chances at getting the job.
...and probably a hand job. :-X
Tonight I attended a SCORE workshop on starting a small business. In two weeks, I'll be going to another one on building a business plan.
your civilian jargin does not compute. what's a score workshop? i'm assuming score is some sort of acronym for something?
Sell Crack On Random Evenings
suck cawk or rape ewoks. GO SCORE
Quote from: Sgt PSN on November 04, 2009, 11:28:18 PM
your civilian jargin does not compute. what's a score workshop? i'm assuming score is some sort of acronym for something?
http://www.lmgtfy.com/?q=SCORE
...something something Of Retired Executives.
I've been to one a long time ago.
Quote from: Sgt PSN on November 04, 2009, 11:28:18 PM
your civilian jargin does not compute. what's a score workshop? i'm assuming score is some sort of acronym for something?
Score is a porno mag featuring women with big juggs
who the hell buys porno magazines?
I don't. :paranoid
i used to love buying them from the chinese lady at 7-11. Nothing like paying for a slurpee, and asking her to get you a Swank and a High Society
ok so going back in on monday to shadow things for a day
i have no idea if its because they liked me or if theyre doing it to everyone who didnt bomb. i know you dont care about that. what i need to know is if i can wear more or less the exact same thing but with a different tie. or do i need to run out and get a full on new suit and spend more money on something i probably wont wear more than once a year cause i highly doubt im gonna get this.
if your suit wasnt flashy, then your fine, switch up the tie. Maybe even shirt color.
yeah, same suit should be fine as long as you mix it up with the shirt and tie.
what's the skinny on this job? i have to assume it's higher up on the writing ladder than composing spam mail.
kind of the same thing
its a sports and entertainment marketing firm. the sixers are one of their clients. im pretty sure this isnt my thing but have nothing to lose by going. plus free lunch on monday.
a former co-worker that was fired in April finally returned his laptop to the company.....trashed and covered in "used" toilet paper
LOL, well played.
You could wear the exact same outfit to the walk through and they aren't going to notice or care, so long as you show enough respect and wits to appear on time and dressed appropriately.
what if i whip out my cork and slap in the boss' face?
It'll go better for you if you let him whip his out.
Offer to rape his wife
How do you guys know the boss is a dude? Sexists
Good point. Regardless, prepare for an oral presentation.
my lips are already chapped
I just got handed a thick document - a printout of 51 PowerPoint slides - poorly describing how to modify my highly-functional, well-designed internal website to fit The Corporate Sharepoint Template. Kill me now.
SharePoint = Satan
It is the bane of my farging existence.
I use SharePoint for all of the reports that i make, it sucks
I have a site that I custom made with perl, PHP, and lots of cool, active content. I need to move it to a MicroSnatch environment, and they have the balls to tell me that SharePoint will do what I want.
I'm tempted to hand it all up to the boss, and tell him to hire a consultant to do it.
I spent the day installing clamshell and shoe molding. Nice day.
Quote from: Diomedes on November 12, 2009, 05:31:11 PM
I spent the day installing clamshell
Is that what the kids are calling it these days?
So uh I've got a meeting coming up about possibly becoming a cop. Kind of a cop out but oddly enough the classes I have taken for political science match up well with criminal justice.
criminal justice has got to be one of the most irrelevent degrees out there. stick with pol sci.
I want to, but I have to find out if the board will specifically want criminal justice or if they just want their new cops to be educated and have a college degree.
skip them both and go for psychology. criminal justice is exceptionally worthless when it comes to persuing a career in law enforcement. it's like taking the medical transcription course at itt tech with hopes of being a doctor.
Quote from: jihadist monk on November 12, 2009, 08:39:48 PM
I want to, but I have to find out if the board will specifically want criminal justice or if they just want their new cops to be educated and have a college degree.
a criminal justice degree is the least useful degree you can get to become an officer. They'll tell you this, but it serves absolutely no purpose to you.
so they want you to get criminal justice, but its totally useless or its totally useless and they tell you its totally useless?
ideally, they'd like for you to major in icehole with a minor in bully
Quote from: jihadist monk on November 12, 2009, 10:04:14 PM
so they want you to get criminal justice, but its totally useless or its totally useless and they tell you its totally useless?
you learn that crap on the job anyway, so your're better off getting a niche type of degree if you want to advance. Business may make you a canidate for white collar crimes/fraud/robery. Psychology/Sociology help with any detective like work. Plus its a sterotype that a recruit has a CJ Degree.
Quote from: Diomedes on November 12, 2009, 10:44:12 PM
ideally, they'd like for you to major in icehole with a minor in bully
boing!
I'm officially no longer in the Sharepoint game. Unfortunately, I'm also no longer in any kind of IT support game. My new responsibilities will be basically doing the clerical grunt work that is below the interest level of other people in my department.
I'm not sure if I should be relieved or pissed off.
The latter. Definitely the way to go. Only good things can come of it.
Quote from: Susquehanna Birder on November 18, 2009, 10:15:20 AM
I'm not sure if I should be relieved or pissed off.
try relieving yourself on all of that new paperwork and pissing your co-workers off instead.
Todd, check this out. Cover a major league team and hang out with igy....
the Washington Post needs a new Nats beat writer (http://voices.washingtonpost.com/nationalsjournal/2009/11/the_status_of_the_nats_beat_go.html)
heard about it, ill throw them my stuff but im not even remotely qualified
a spot on the copy desk in york is much more reasonable...and thats what im in talks with now.
Dude, write a puff piece on Elijah Dukes, what a great guy he is, and how great Rigglemann is and send that with your stuff - guaranteed hire.
im pretty sure everyone wants the writer to rip of the nats for being a complete and total joke. im not even sure what the point in sending an email is, so many good and qualified writers are out of work and will jump at this. im 6 months out of college.
Or better yet write a story about how you're the only Philly guy on Earth who cried when Sean Taylor died.
I'm telling you... it's money.
in other words, have hahafunnyhaha write it for you.
Quote from: MDS on November 20, 2009, 12:31:31 PM
im pretty sure everyone wants the writer to rip of the nats for being a complete and total joke. im not even sure what the point in sending an email is, so many good and qualified writers are out of work and will jump at this. im 6 months out of college.
Good and qualified = high salary demands
Young e-mail spam writer fresh outta Temple = cheap
I will list you as a reference. Make sure you tell them about the $50 I'm gonna ass rape you out of.
Okay...now the boss has decided to change my title, take away all the creative tasks I was involved in, and give me all kinds of mindless, menial work that nobody else wants to do. I suggested that he lay me off...but he refused. So basically my choice is to take it or leave it. Do the job or quit. I certainly can't get immediate work elsewhere, so I'm forced to stick around and eat shtein while I look for an acceptable way out.
Go find a new job with solid opportunity, then return the favor by telling him at 4:45 on a Friday that you just worked your last day. When he asks about two-weeks notice, tell him that you asking to be laid off should have provided plenty of advance notice.
Quote from: Father Demon on November 24, 2009, 01:49:34 PM
Go find a new job with solid opportunity, then return the favor by telling him at 4:45 on a Friday that you just worked your last day. When he asks about two-weeks notice, tell him that you asking to be laid off should have provided plenty of advance notice.
:yay
I'll definitely work on that. Of course, the "new job with solid opportunity" thing is kind of like chasing unicorns these days.
Good luck sus, Sharepoint sucks
on a selfish sidenote, i finally got a promotion i've been waiting on for a year today. yay me
Quote from: Susquehanna Birder on November 24, 2009, 01:28:51 PM
Okay...now the boss has decided to change my title, take away all the creative tasks I was involved in, and give me all kinds of mindless, menial work that nobody else wants to do. I suggested that he lay me off...but he refused. So basically my choice is to take it or leave it. Do the job or quit. I certainly can't get immediate work elsewhere, so I'm forced to stick around and eat shtein while I look for an acceptable way out.
I find that strippers help put life in perspective in these situations. Yep, strippers and vodka.
Quote from: Seabiscuit36 on November 24, 2009, 03:16:40 PM
Good luck sus, Sharepoint sucks
on a selfish sidenote, i finally got a promotion i've been waiting on for a year today. yay me
Even sharepoint would be a step up from what I'll be doing: going through spreadsheets and verifying part numbers. All IT activities will end, and I will become a glorified clerical worker.
Congrats on the promotion!
Quote from: phillycrew on November 24, 2009, 03:54:47 PM
Quote from: Susquehanna Birder on November 24, 2009, 01:28:51 PM
Okay...now the boss has decided to change my title, take away all the creative tasks I was involved in, and give me all kinds of mindless, menial work that nobody else wants to do. I suggested that he lay me off...but he refused. So basically my choice is to take it or leave it. Do the job or quit. I certainly can't get immediate work elsewhere, so I'm forced to stick around and eat shtein while I look for an acceptable way out.
I find that strippers help put life in perspective in these situations. Yep, strippers and vodka.
Well, I can do the vodka immediately.
Weren't you talking about starting your own business? Or was that Demon? I can't remember.
I think it's a great idea to strike out on your own, even if you end up failing at first. If you keep trying eventually it will work and you'll never look back.
I've always wanted to start my own thing. In fact, I have tried it. Failed miserably once. But, I still have an idea for another.
America. The land of opportunity.
Quote from: Diomedes on November 24, 2009, 05:53:34 PM
Weren't you talking about starting your own business? Or was that Demon? I can't remember.
I think it's a great idea to strike out on your own, even if you end up failing at first. If you keep trying eventually it will work and you'll never look back.
I'm definitely doing it, but I'm starting it as a part-time venture while I get everything in place.
Sus,
Sorry to hear about your situation, man. I wish you the best. Hopefully you can find another opportunity and give those clowns the finger on the way out the door.
How long have you worked there?
They're probably phasing you out because you're old, which means expensive. Your salary is too high, your health care costs are too high, etc. They'll make life uncomfortable for you and when you leave in six months giving them the finger out the door, they'll be laughing the harder for having traded up for a young cheap inexpensive replacement.
Quote from: Diomedes on November 24, 2009, 11:30:16 PM
They're probably phasing you out because you're old, which means expensive. Your salary is too high, your health care costs are too high, etc. They'll make life uncomfortable for you and when you leave in six months giving them the finger out the door, they'll be laughing the harder for having traded up for a young cheap inexpensive replacement.
Wouldn't surprise me in the long run, but right now they aren't hiring
anybody. My previous boss - the guy who brought me into the department to do what I was doing - retired a year or so ago, and the clown who replaced him is screwing up more people than just me. I've heard that several people have gone to him, asking to be laid off. When people start volunteering for that kind of thing, it should be a sign that you're not managing your people very well.
It should be, but his superiors probably see that he's cutting costs. the corporate world sucks
Time to go the Cousin Eddie / Frank Shirley route.
send some emails to al queda and then shoot up your office. i want to see if the media labels you a terrorist or not. and i'm also curious as to what your middle name is.
I'd rather send e-mails to my office and then shoot up al queda.
Quote from: Sgt PSN on November 25, 2009, 02:30:24 PMsend some emails to al queda and then shoot up your office. ...and i'm also curious as to what your middle name is.
lol
there could be an awesome inquiry into whether we are all complicit, how we can prevent this kind of thing in the future, etc.
think of the ad money
Big Brother!
You gotta take one for the team,
Sus. Do it.
Book deals for everybody!
Except MDS because of his awful writing ability
working toys for tots all weekend. 7am-8pm today, 630am-8pm tomorrow and probably similar hours on sunday. today's an easy day for me because i'm just driving from store to store collecting toys in the donation bins. tomorrow i get to throw on my dress blues and stand next to a box for about 8 hours. same on sunday.
these poor little trashy munson kids better love their farging presents. better yet, they should go find rich parents who can afford toys for xmas.
if i lived near you id come buy and give you the finger
just a finger or shocker?
Quote from: BigEd76 on November 20, 2009, 10:20:53 AM
Todd, check this out. Cover a major league team and hang out with igy....
the Washington Post needs a new Nats beat writer (http://voices.washingtonpost.com/nationalsjournal/2009/11/the_status_of_the_nats_beat_go.html)
QuoteDear Todd,
I've received your resume and clips. We are still sorting through things here regarding the Nationals opening but will be back in touch with you. Thanks for expressing interest.
Regards,
So...auto-mated response to anyone who applied or serious? Cause how much sense could it make that the freakin Post would like me and shteinhole papers in NY state and york wont even get back to me? My cover letter was me swinging for the fences with random references to my 13 year old escapades and talking about how ill accept low 20's pay. maybe that did the trick.
the thought of you writing for the washington post is so hysterical that im having trouble even composing myself to type this out
i know, really.
theres no way it happens but even an interview would be great.
on the plus side, if i go down there for a chat, GUESS WHO GETS TO MEET ME FOR A DRINK? YOU. CAUSE I MISS YOU.
i actually work about 500 yards from the washington post
well then, if this happens, WE'RE GOIN OUT ON THE TOWN
yeah, the whole black guy, jewish friend thing has already been done. terribly i might add.
(http://www.impawards.com/2005/posters/man.jpg)
Did you really offer to work for low 20's? A baseball beat? Wow. I thought by pricing yourself cheap would be in the low 40's.
lol @ offering to work for low 20's. the one thing you had going for you was the fact that you're a jew applying for a job in the media. but with that salary offer, you've lost what remaining shred of kosher cred you had left. oy!
you guys do know that low 20s is the going rate for entry level journalism jobs
Jeez...really?
And what's the average salary?
probably 30-40ish range.
its not a good job by any stretch of the imagination. but i enjoy it. so much so that im probably going to grad school next fall or winter if i cant hit on something. and there is something brewing, with mlb.com doing phils stuff, which i will speak on if it works out.
Quote from: MDS on December 10, 2009, 11:24:23 PM
you guys do know that low 20s is the going rate for entry level journalism jobs
no way the nationls beat job at the post pays in the 20's
Print media outlets pay crap. And as of the past few years, they are all having financial problems, and job security is terrible.
what is this 1990? Id rather sell pretzels on the bridge than work for a low 20K job with a college degree. step it up son.
the last nats beat writer was openly not a baseball fan so you have that going for you.
i dont want low 20s but whatever helps me get in the door/closer to havas
that's the one thing about the media, especially the print side that sucks rectum. it's a bitch just to even get in the door and when you do, you get table scraps for wages. but as long as they throw a great company christmas party, you should be ok.
if youre in my spot and the post says 'hey loser jew college kid, heres 19k to be our nats beat write, take it or leave it'
you say yes. so that.
A few years ago I got laid off and was collecting unemployment. I don't remember the exact amount of the checks but I'm pretty sure they equated to about 19k/year. Just for the sake of comparison...
yea, but ill get to watch the nats play baseball. cant put a price tag on that.
I could have watched baseball until my farging face turned green. I was unemployed.
at what point during baseball watching does your face turn green?
Very early on, in my case.
Quote from: phattymatty on December 11, 2009, 01:14:14 PM
at what point during baseball watching does your face turn green?
A lot faster with the Nats than with any other team.
i think mds should stop posting in this thread until he actually has a job to hate. you and thawk canstart an unemployment thread together.
I deliver sushi, work for a textbook company and freelance.
Unemployment by black ass
all I want to know is do you ride a schwinn with a wicker basket when you deliver fish?
don't forget the bell. or does he have a few baseball cards in the spokes instead?
im the only non jap there and get free dumplings WIN
probably the ones they drop on the floor. stupid round eye.
my girls dad is retired on a fat govt pension and until recently worked as a chinese food delivery guy...and now he just applied to be a waiter in the dining car of the amtrak lorton va to orlando fla train
the government sector sounds promising.
Quote from: Sgt PSN on December 11, 2009, 02:36:47 PM
i think mds should stop posting in this thread until he actually has a job to hate. you and thawk canstart an unemployment thread together.
That thread already exists - the booze thread
carry on then.
One great thing about digging ditches: you can't read :CF all day long while pretending to work
plus, you'll probably find a body or something too. not to mention it's probably a good skill to possess if you ever need to hide your stash.
And it's all you can eat.
another update
did a phoner with a paper down in brownsville, texas. its near corpus christi. might be promising.
phreak. lay it on me. can i last there for a couple years?
ha, you'll be in hell there buddy. But you can check out Schlitterbahn
Quote from: MDS on January 04, 2010, 11:25:09 PM
another update
did a phoner with a paper down in brownsville, texas. its near corpus christi. might be promising.
phreak. lay it on me. can i last there for a couple years?
Oh man...that is tough. I suppose you could grind it out, but Brownsville is a shtein hole and might as well just be in Mexico. I mean, you are right on the border.
Your only saving grave is that South Padre Island is close.
Here's a hint if you do take the job MDS, dont write about Los Zetas
Here's another hint, if you actually want to be a journalist you take whatever the farg is offered to you and work your way up.
basically, yea.
i believe its between me and like 4 or 5 other people. so, well see. ill probably have to take it if offered. id be doing the high school football beat, so 1-2 years on that breaking a few stories, i could be moving on to....corpus christi?
Maybe work your way up to covering University of Houston football
Here's another tip. Don't be a sports journalist. Ever. You'll forget everything you learned about the english language within 6 months and you'll never be able to find a job again.
if i do that then its off to grad school. do you have 80k for me?
On the other hand, covering high school football in Texas is probably better than most sports journalism jobs.
Yeah, its crazy down here. You'll get to deal with the super idiotic football parents who will threaten your life because you haven't written about their zesty son or you blasted poor Johnny McFumbles too hard.
if i respond by making fun of jesus or george bush, will that be it? ill be dead.
Quote from: rjs246 on January 05, 2010, 01:56:37 PM
Here's another tip. Don't be a sports journalist. Ever. You'll forget everything you learned about the english language within 6 months and you'll never be able to find a job again.
have you never read a single post from the jewnalist before?
Quote from: MDS on January 05, 2010, 05:22:04 PM
if i respond by making fun of jesus or george bush, will that be it? ill be dead.
Maybe not down that far because the mexicans don't like W. Jesus...yeah, they love Jesus.
well thats not half bad. mexicans are good people.
chuggie notwithstanding
chuggie is like the best mexican ever because pays taxes and isn't on welfare. i doubt he'll ever be able to get rid of that smell, but nobody's perfect.
so did the last interview with the managing editor of the paper
but she didnt really ask me any questions, off the bat she said she just wanted to check in and see if i had any questions
is this a blow off (like they already have their guy and are just playing out the string), or a check up (im the guy and she just wants to have a quick convo to make sure im not a rapist)?
im not sure. either way, she told me ill get word in a few days.
If she seemed half interested you have a shot. If it was a generic conversation and her mind was elsewhere...you should go rape her.
Interviewer to MDS: Do you have any questions about this job in a foreign country you're applying to?
MDS: No.
Interviewer: Okay then, we'll get word to you in a few days.
MDS: Okay, byebye.
Interviewer: Goodbye.
Interviewer to self: ¡Qué un perdedor!
sad thing is thats exactly how it went
If that's how it went, you aren't getting the job. Always have questions about the job and/or company to show a) knowledge of the company, b) interest in the job, c) you have half a brain, and d) you're inquisitive (especially for a reporter).
To say "I don't have any questions" tells her you don't care enough to get the job.
ok thats not at all how i went but for the sake of dio's lame attempt at humor i had to go along with it
you people have been of no help as usual
We assume from your outstanding prose here that you have no shot of ever landing any kind of journalism job. Can you blame us?
of course not
but then again i dont blame osama bin laden
Quote from: Father Demon on January 19, 2010, 07:29:03 PM
If that's how it went, you aren't getting the job. Always have questions about the job and/or company to show a) knowledge of the company, b) interest in the job, c) you have half a brain, and d) you're inquisitive (especially for a reporter).
To say "I don't have any questions" tells her you don't care enough to get the job.
as Demon said, with any job, always have questions even if you know the answers. Make sure they're not retarded, but someone who calls you for a final interview wants to feel like you are interested in the job.
Quote from: KDS on January 19, 2010, 06:19:01 PM
so did the last interview with the managing editor of the paper
but she didnt really ask me any questions, off the bat she said she just wanted to check in and see if i had any questions
is this a blow off (like they already have their guy and are just playing out the string), or a check up (im the guy and she just wants to have a quick convo to make sure im not a rapist)?
im not sure. either way, she told me ill get word in a few days.
She gonna send you a Western Union Telegram?
"We'll send word along in a few days!"
Questions you should have asked:
1. Ask her if she's hot
2. Married
3. Boyfriend
4. Shaved
5. Wants you to be a drug mule
6. Or steal trucks from Houston to transport illegals and write about it
7. Are there any temples located in Brownsville?
8. How will the locals feel when I wear my yam aka?
lol
#6 ftw
phreak its not yam aka
its yamaka. come on.
also nothing back yet. no news is good news but im figuring this is gonna as close ill ever come. just short. like always. cheer me up rusty.
The first letter of every sentence should be capitalized. You're welcome.
and when you're trying to get a job, the phrase "no news is good news" is not applicable. no news is certainly not good news.
stop ruining my fun you fat jew
Yea, no news pretty much means they made their decision and they're either not professional enough or care too little about you to let you know.
Or you're second or third choice, and they are waiting for the b=people they like better to decide whether or not to accept the offer.
Either way, no news is bad news when looking for a job.
so i got the job
anyone got $1000 to help me with moving costs?
I'm sure IGY can hook you up with a good train ticket.
Dude. You're a farging journalist in the middle of nowhere. What could you possibly be packing? A suitcase full of clothes and a pillow. Buy a blanket when you get there. Time to start learning how to live below the poverty line.
well im going down there sometime next week to check things out, get a place, etc. then 2 or so weeks later moving for good. i have an old, beat up car that might blow up on that long of a trip. so...some financial decisions to make.
where is this job?
calling it bumblefarg would be giving it too much credit
they never saw a east coast jew down der
Congrats man, but here's to hoping your car catches on fire as you cross the TX state line
Quote from: KDS on January 28, 2010, 08:11:44 PM
well im going down there sometime next week to check things out, get a place, etc. then 2 or so weeks later moving for good. i have an old, beat up car that might blow up on that long of a trip. so...some financial decisions to make.
sell your car and minimize the amount of personal belongings that you take with you. pack your clothes, computer and yamaka. box everything else up and put it in your parents garage. you probably don't plan on being there any longer than you have to, so why take everything you own? if nothing else, wait until you get settled in out there and if you want the rest of your stuff, it's already boxed up and ready to be shipped.
when you get there, buy a gun. don't look people in the eye. in fact, stay inside as much as possible. try and conduct interviews for your articles over the phone. i don't say this because i think you're moving to a dangerous place. i say this because chances are, no one in the city of brownsville, tx has ever met someone from philly and i'd really hate for you to be their first and only impression.
seriously? Brownsville?
i havent "accepted" it but im going down there fairly soon to get things in order and see the town.
this could easily blow up in my face or i could deal with it and be out in 1-2 years and on to a better spot. so well see. might as roll the dice.
you ain't gonna step right into the WaPo.
gotta learn your trade now
Brownsville, lol
essentially. the town isnt that bad, as far as i know.
and theres a halfway decent shot im gonna go ahead and live on south padre island. so lets slow our rolls.
Congrats, dork. Chase your dream.
I'm sure there are some bumblefarg towns in PA, DE, Jersey, and maryland that could use a writer and wouldn't require you moving halfway across the country to the land of illegals and lynchers. But good luck down there.
Quote from: KDS on January 28, 2010, 10:24:54 PM
i havent "accepted" it but im going down there fairly soon to get things in order and see the town.
this could easily blow up in my face or i could deal with it and be out in 1-2 years and on to a better spot. so well see. might as roll the dice.
unless you've been holding out on us, it doesn't sound like you've got a lot of job offers. and when you add in the fact that you need to cut your teeth somewhere and start getting any relevant experience along with the fact that this isn't a booming job market to begin with, you should probably accept the job and just suck it up no matter how bad it is. write some hs football articles, polish your skills a little more and hopefully in 2 or 3 years you'll be writing in toledo. a few years after that, it's off to billings, mt. from there, you go to charleston, sc where it's discovered that you're not quite ready for a city on the coast and you take a couple steps backwards and find yourself in scranton. then one of the big boys come calling. it's dallas. they want you to cover the cowboys and you commit suicide during the webcam interview. meanwhile, back in brownsville, your obituary is written by a young cub who just graduated from st. joes. the end.
That's probably the best outcome you could hope for.
Quote from: Sgt PSN on January 29, 2010, 01:20:41 AM
Quote from: KDS on January 28, 2010, 10:24:54 PM
i havent "accepted" it but im going down there fairly soon to get things in order and see the town.
this could easily blow up in my face or i could deal with it and be out in 1-2 years and on to a better spot. so well see. might as roll the dice.
unless you've been holding out on us, it doesn't sound like you've got a lot of job offers. and when you add in the fact that you need to cut your teeth somewhere and start getting any relevant experience along with the fact that this isn't a booming job market to begin with, you should probably accept the job and just suck it up no matter how bad it is. write some hs football articles, polish your skills a little more and hopefully in 2 or 3 years you'll be writing in toledo. a few years after that, it's off to billings, mt. from there, you go to charleston, sc where it's discovered that you're not quite ready for a city on the coast and you take a couple steps backwards and find yourself in scranton. then one of the big boys come calling. it's dallas. they want you to cover the cowboys and you commit suicide during the webcam interview. meanwhile, back in brownsville, your obituary is written by a young cub who just graduated from st. joes. the end.
holy shtein, sassy.
:-D
Congrats on the job (provided you actually get there). Keep your eyes open, because the print media types are constantly looking for ways to screw the people who provide their content (well, everybody except the advertisers). Get some experience, enough to put on your resume, then get the farg out of there.
Tell Spewdaro that you're gunning for his job.
dude brownsville is only a few miles from the beach so it can't be that bad. you can do some undercover work fletch style. plus being that close to the border there will probably be some really cheap drugs and whores. i think it sounds fun.
Quote from: Seabiscuit36 on January 28, 2010, 09:23:24 PM
they never saw a east coast jew down der
at least he doesnt look jewish
btw all you are getting okie doked...no chance the lil guy actually does this
explain in english
and lol @ sassy's story. funny stuff for a change.
Quote from: Sgt PSN on January 29, 2010, 01:20:41 AM
unless you've been holding out on us, it doesn't sound like you've got a lot of job offers. and when you add in the fact that you need to cut your teeth somewhere and start getting any relevant experience along with the fact that this isn't a booming job market to begin with, you should probably accept the job and just suck it up no matter how bad it is. write some hs football articles, polish your skills a little more and hopefully in 2 or 3 years you'll be writing in toledo. a few years after that, it's off to billings, mt. from there, you go to charleston, sc where it's discovered that you're not quite ready for a city on the coast and you take a couple steps backwards and find yourself in scranton. then one of the big boys come calling. it's dallas. they want you to cover the cowboys and you commit suicide during the webcam interview. meanwhile, back in brownsville, your obituary is written by a young cub who just graduated from st. joes. the end.
:-D That may be the funniest thing Sarge has ever written. Granted, the bar isn't very high, but this was classic!
Congrats, Todd.
Are those bastiches going to cover your expenses to move down there? You should at least ask for that.
im getting about 500
going down there tuesday - friday. i will probably be in the houston airport for a bit so come and keep me company big guy.
edit its tuesday to thursday and im stopping in dallas. so...maybe ill see tony romo or something and kill him.
Damn....I was looking forward to coming to the airport to heckle you.
The Dallas airport is pretty nice.
do they have free high speed? cause i know a lame internet message board than needs 2 hours of posts.
http://www.dfwairport.com/shops/finder.php?type=services So, yes.
After 7 months, my old company just called me back. While it will be nice to say good-bye to Obamadollars and earn a paycheck, I'm going to miss sleeping in until 10 or 11 or sometimes noon
good news
$$ for car parts
and hookers
Tomorrow's the last day of our company. Wednesday we're taken over by a Tampa company whose HQ is 5 minutes away from the St. Pete Times Forum...
Movin to Tampa easy?
Looks like we're safe for another 3 years until the lease is up on our building. This new company is big on working from home or meeting up with team members at satellite sites (and our original HQ is only 10 minutes away and still active)...
easy working from home = minute by minute draft news and updates???
I wfh 4out of 5 days a week usually now. They're big on it, and they pay for my interwebs.
Quote from: Die-Hard on February 02, 2010, 03:45:01 PM
easy working from home = minute by minute draft news and updates???
he definitely has people working for him so it probably wouldnt effect how much 411 we receive
however the quality of information may be higher if he is more hands on
Quote from: Seabiscuit36 on February 02, 2010, 03:52:44 PM
I wfh 4out of 5 days a week usually now. They're big on it, and they pay for my interwebs.
why are they big on it? i know i would be about 75% less efficient if i worked from home. i wonder what the upside for the company is.
I am way more productive when I work from home. Which sucks since I work from home exclusively.
Quote from: SunMo on February 02, 2010, 03:56:28 PM
Quote from: Seabiscuit36 on February 02, 2010, 03:52:44 PM
I wfh 4out of 5 days a week usually now. They're big on it, and they pay for my interwebs.
why are they big on it? i know i would be about 75% less efficient if i worked from home. i wonder what the upside for the company is.
yeah i definitely couldnt (nor would i want to) work at home...i literally would do nothing
the upside for the company i suppose is space reduction...office space is unbelievably expensive
yeah, for people who do it exclusively, but for those who do a partial office and partial home deal, i'm not sure what the companies gaining.
I'd love to work from home. My boy does it and he always talks shtein to me because its cake
Quote from: SunMo on February 02, 2010, 04:02:53 PM
yeah, for people who do it exclusively, but for those who do a partial office and partial home deal, i'm not sure what the companies gaining.
they write you off the books, and we have "Shared Office Space" which i share with other people who are in the same program. Like RJS said, you're more productive when you're used to the environment, and i find i spend far less time bullshteinting and going down to smoke or the cafeteria.
i love the bullshteinting part of working...i need that human contact every day...id go batshtein crazy if i was in my house all day alone
to be fair tho i have the advantage of working right in the middle of major us city which is so awesome having all kinds of shtein going on around me...great restaurants to grab lunch if you want...going out in the warm weather and just watching stuff bounce
i love the hustle and bustle of my commute
the people watching
the smells
just everything about it
def not for everyone and i know lots of people that hate it but personally i cant imagine not having that and i could never go back to working in the burbs or especially at home
I work out of the house...yeah...I like the human contact...I spend most days in my car or alone in front of the computer...not a big real estate company....but the pluses of working with others daily is the eye candy and borderline sexual harrassment comments. Male or female.
i agree with havas. the only times i work from home is when i know i have absolutely nothing to do. and even then i sometimes come in just to shoot the shtein all day long with people. and to hit happy hour.
Well its either go to work at a scheduled time every day and work the mandatory hours, or just roll out of bed whenever you want, start your day, hit the golf course, work some more, end your day when you want. Oh its Friday--yeah lets get down the shore and have a long weekend every weekend.
Get involved.
Quote from: phattymatty on February 02, 2010, 04:44:17 PM
i agree with havas. the only times i work from home is when i know i have absolutely nothing to do. and even then i sometimes come in just to shoot the shtein all day long with people. and to hit happy hour.
whats the deal with the nats phils opener...you have an in on tickets again or are you gonna just try and get them when single games go on sale
if you work in the city, then going to the office probably makes sense as there are things to see and enjoy during the commute on your lunch break and then after work.
working in some corporate cubicle farm in the suburbs with people who live in suburban housing developments where all the houses look the same (kind of like cubicles) and during lunch you can find all of your stupid suburbanite coworkers at the applebee's across the street or running to the strip mall next door because they need to refill their prozac prescription at rite aid would be a farging horrible way to live and i'd gladly take the work from home option if only to prevent me from hearing everyone talk about american idol and how awesome they think their stupid kids are at soccer.
why do you hate America?
because it's fun?
Little boxes, made of ticky-tack...
shtein I was literally just typing that...
that sounds secksay
Quote from: rjs246 on February 02, 2010, 05:09:15 PM
shtein I was literally just typing that...
what's the reference?
Song lyrics.
Dick.
I feel satisfied.
It's a song dedicated to mocking the same-ness of the American upper-middle class. It was also the theme song to the first two or three seasons of Weeds.
You really are a sorry son of a bitch if pissing me off satisfies you.
I make no claims to the contrary.
Quote from: ice grillin you on February 02, 2010, 04:32:26 PMi love the bullshteinting part of working...i need that human contact every day...id go batshtein crazy if i was in my house all day alone
That's the way most of us feel. Yeah, if there's a foot of snow or you're sick, you can just log in and not worry about driving, but with TV and all the other ish around, most of us have trouble concentrating, plus I'm not sure we could get a lot of crap done with nonstop back-and-forth emails, conference calls or Skype. This new company has a huge tower on the waterfront and they said it's barely 25% full because everyone just logs in remotely. No office space bills to worry about and supposedly it makes everyone happier. I dunno....we'll see. Like I said we still have a center 10 minutes away that used to be our HQ, so we might just meet up there instead so we don't go crazy. But that's down the line since they can't break the lease deal here...
Quote from: Die-Hard on February 02, 2010, 03:45:01 PM
easy working from home = minute by minute draft news and updates???
ha....I could probably do that now if these damn clients went away
love the Weeds reference
The full song:
http://www.youtube.com/watch/v/KmNSEbgt1Dg
Quote from: Susquehanna Birder on February 02, 2010, 06:12:41 PM
The full song:
http://www.youtube.com/watch/v/KmNSEbgt1Dg
Quote from: Susquehanna Birder on February 02, 2010, 05:08:38 PM
Little boxes, made of ticky-tack...
Crazy. For an unrelated reason...I was looking up and listening to that song today.
This proves that the universe hears me...time to dream up some crazy shtein and have it become reality.
im brownsville
its brownsville
lots of mexicans
you are brownsville
a 5 mile, 15 minute drive from the airport to the hotel cost me $30. thank goodness i won $150 in ac last friday.
i cant figure out why cabs are so expensive. i could probably pay a mexican 5 bucks to carry me 300 miles and hed do it.
what happened to the M? and why a K?
Quote from: Diomedes on February 01, 2010, 04:49:06 PM
good news
$$ for car parts
Begrudgingly, dollars are going to house first. What's sad is after almost 8 months I don't remember for sure what I used to make, but I'm fairly certain I'm getting $2,000/yr raise
one of my collateral duties is being the substance abuse control officer, which basically means that i deal with marines who have substance abuse problems. and one aspect of that job is doing random command urinalysis testing, which my commanding officer decided he wanted to do today. so between 4pm and 8pm, i had to test 138 people. which means that right now there are 138 bottles of piss in my office.
good times.
And you had to stare at about138 penises.
Chuggie's jealous.
nah, i don't have to be a pecker checker. i just hand out/collect the bottles, do the paperwork, etc, etc. i use sgt's for the wang watching.
either way, chuggie is most definitely jealous
So you're LT PSN now?
Quote from: Sgt PSN on February 05, 2010, 11:30:40 PM
one of my collateral duties is being the substance abuse control officer, which basically means that i deal with marines who have substance abuse problems. and one aspect of that job is doing random command urinalysis testing, which my commanding officer decided he wanted to do today. so between 4pm and 8pm, i had to test 138 people. which means that right now there are 138 bottles of piss in my office.
good times.
you should see if you can guess which samples came from which marines by smell, that would be fun.
Quote from: Seabiscuit36 on February 06, 2010, 11:04:49 AM
So you're LT PSN now?
nah, ssgt (staff sergeant) psn. i actually changed my name briefly when i got promoted but it drew heavy criticism from dio and he started calling me sassy. so i changed it back.
Well, start a new job Monday, if I can make it to the other side of the ditch, meaning the Chesapeake. Yup, I'm going union, carpentry union. Six months and I'll have all the bells and whistles. Insurance, profit sharing, company truck and gas card, and it starts with union scale salary, which is supposedly $26 per hr. It'll will be tough, but I've been guaranteed 40 hrs. a week, so it's better than the two, three days a week I've been doing. So... it's all because of stimulus money that Obama provided, that is finally been freed up once all the bureaucrats decided how to spend it. I'll be working on and providing maintenance for homeland security buildings starting off. I also could be working at the Naval Academy and the Bethesda Naval hospital. Should be easy work compared to what I've been doing. I've been critical of how Obama's spent money, but will have to eat crow if this works out, because I will be a direct recipient of the stimulus package.
Almost forgot, this job will also include paid holidays and vacation time. Something I've never had.
A stimulus job AND a union job? Christ man you're practically a socialist!
magic negro doin his thang
Quote from: mpmcgraw on February 06, 2010, 02:39:36 PM
A stimulus job AND a union job? Christ man you're practically a socialist!
Whatever pays the bills, man. I've been dreaming about getting a job like this.
What happens when we're done being stimulated?
smoke a cigarette and go to sleep.
Most of my work is down Annapolis. House we're on now is just across the Severn from the Naval Acadamy. We'll have to have a beer and surprise secks.
you just ruined the surprise.
Pshaw. That's the kind of surprise you can be warned of beforehand but when it happens, it's still surprising.
Quote from: Diomedes on February 06, 2010, 08:03:26 PM
Most of my work is down Annapolis. House we're on now is just across the Severn from the Naval Acadamy. We'll have to have a beer and surprise secks.
I did a lot of work in and around Annapolis years ago. Anywere on the Severn mostly means the people have big money. I did a lot of work in Downs on the Severn when it was a new development. Friggen' houses were huge. Made me wonder were all that money came from.
Dio, you ever hit Rams Head on generals highway?
Sure, and also when it was Rudy's before that.
Yeah!? You've been around those parts a while then. I used to got there just about every day when I worked in the Downs. They had some killer pizza there. I've only been there twice since it became Ram's Head.
Anywayz, new job is on hold as the gubment is closed down in Md. today. Fargin' Hoydas. But, lucky for all the people here at CF, I can post all day. Ha!
if the govt is shut down tomorrow which i doubt then im calling in on friday which bring me into presidents day weekend where i get off monday and tuesday which will mean i will have not worked in 11 days and only had to take 8 hours of leave
thank god you make 90k a year. you deserve it.
govt be closed tomorrow.....holla
Quote from: ice grillin you on February 10, 2010, 04:41:16 PM
if the govt is shut down tomorrow which i doubt then im calling in on friday which bring me into presidents day weekend where i get off monday and tuesday which will mean i will have not worked in 11 days and only had to take 8 hours of leave
it's like the xmas/new year period where there's only like 3 work days between the 2 holidays so if you just take the time off, you're out of work for about 12 days and only getting charged 3 days vacation. not sure how you get paid (hourly v salary) but for me, i'm getting paid whether i'm at work or not so that's an exceptionally awesome time of the year for me.
im salary...and mos def i try and always do the same thing around xmas if i have the leave...
often tho ive used my leave up....i refuse to go below the 240
Quote from: ice grillin you on February 10, 2010, 08:39:37 PM
i refuse to go below the 240
i don't know what that means.
but what i do know is that i hardly ever take leave days because i get so many days off during the year thanks damn near every month having 1 or 2 fed observed holidays with each one netting me a 4 day weekend. nov and dec is the farging shtein because i get 4 days off for veteran's day, turkey day, xmas and new years. during those 2 months, i only have something like 31 actual working days. nice.
not to mention that if i need a day off to take care of something, i just take the day off. the only real need for me to use vacation days is if i plan on being out of work for 3 or more consecutive days.
i earn 30 days of vacation each year and right now i have a balance of 52 days. i'm going to have to take a few days here and there over the next few months because i need to be under 60 days come oct 1 of every year otherwise i lose those excess days. i have no idea why, but the military doesn't want anyone to have more than 2 months saved up at the start of the fiscal year.
wow you get six weeks of vacay a year...thats great
i currently get four weeks
the 240 is the amount of hrs you cant go above...similar to your 60 days...which is 480 or double what i can carry
5 days per week x 6 weeks = 30 days
math is fundemental
2.5 days per month x 12 months = 30 days
and 30 days = six weeks
or do you work seven days a week
depends......we actually worked a lot in january didn't have a single weekend off during the entire month with the exception of new years. at one point, i worked 26 straight days. was supposed to be 27 but our co decided we had enough.
but now this month we're getting it made up to us and have every friday and monday off for the entire month. i farging love it.
in actuality though, m-f is a normal work week for the majority of the military. and the 2.5 days/month is actually how we earn our leave. so if i have 52 days right now and don't take leave this month, then as of march 1 i'd have 54.5 days on the books.
So now they are looking at 5 furlough days for state employees. I am starting to wonder about taking some of the federal or military positions I have been offered. These state jobs are too political.
I still hate my job. Just an update.
because of snow holidays and my AWS day today was my first day back at work since feb 5
i just took a red eye back from vegas and realized that i haven't been in the office since feb. 4.
phreak i will be in the houston airport for roughly 2 hours on saturday. if youre not there wearing a 5 jersey with a bouquet of flowers im never talking to you again
Quote from: KDS on February 18, 2010, 04:39:21 PM
phreak i will be in the houston airport for roughly 2 hours on saturday. if youre not there wearing a 5 jersey with a bouquet of flowers im never talking to you again
i wish you'd give all of us that ultimatum.
Quote from: KDS on February 18, 2010, 04:39:21 PM
phreak i will be in the houston airport for roughly 2 hours on saturday. if youre not there wearing a 5 jersey with a bouquet of flowers im never talking to you again
lol...sorry, I'm gonna be outta town on Saturday. If it was during the week, I'd be there to buy you a beer and a Mcnabb jersey.
my office is having an 11AM party in the conference room to watch the tiger presser.
Quote from: phattymatty on February 19, 2010, 10:53:24 AM
my office is having an 11AM party in the conference room to watch the tiger presser.
Drinks?
An entire office is getting time out to watch the press conference of a golfer who cheated on his wife? What the farg?
this statement definitely calls for a rager
and hookers
it definitely doesn't seem like a reason to hate one's job
yeah it wasn't a company sanctioned thing, although it might as well have been because more people showed up than for real meetings.
+1 job perk pts
i got a sprint mobile thing and now dont have to pay for internet. win.
So I was checking out the Brownsville Herald today...
Atta boy Toddy!
my one fan! an atta boy! yay!
How many "you're not from around here are ya" looks and questions have you gotten so far?
everyday
ill be out of here in no and time and off to tyler or waco or something. texas4life son
Just promise that once you get to Waco, you'll fall into a social group with a guy named David who seems slightly off.
Quote from: KDS on March 21, 2010, 04:57:42 PM
everyday
ill be out of here in no and time and off to tyler or waco or something. texas4life son
Waco could be OK if you somehow can wedge your way onto a Baylor beat.
id take that. college beats are great. the fans are nuts. they act like the school is a child of theirs. im guessing its worse in texas. sign me up.
My cuz went to Baylor said it as great. If you have a chance Todd, fly out to Tempe, its a few states over, but check out Mill Ave for the nightlife and the ladies. The sports isnt bad either, but Tempe is a great farging town, and i've never seen so many beautiful ladies in one area, it was like heaven, with booze
Quote from: Seabiscuit36 on March 21, 2010, 09:03:04 PM
My cuz went to Baylor said it as great. If you have a chance Todd, fly out to Tempe, its a few states over, but check out Mill Ave for the nightlife and the ladies. The sports isnt bad either, but Tempe is a great farging town, and i've never seen so many beautiful ladies in one area, it was like heaven, with booze
did a moving job to Austin, holy crap. Amazing all around..
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on March 21, 2010, 03:43:20 PM
So I was checking out the Brownsville Herald today...
Atta boy Toddy!
http://www.brownsvilleherald.com/sections/our-staff/
where the farg is jew boy?
also.....theresa, carla and jazmine can all make out with my wang.
I'm gonna take a stab at it...
(http://www.brownsvilleherald.com/pictures/kixm18-travis.jpg)
why do you guys do these things
lol at 'speedy' he isnt to stereotypical is he
all thats missing is his sombrero and donkey
(http://www.brownsvilleherald.com/pictures/kj53cm-20090430heraldstaffmugsgdl6852.jpg)
Ildefonso Ortiz
Police & Crime/ Court Reporter
Oh...I get it...because of the hat and....
(http://www.brownsvilleherald.com/pictures/kwgivc-kwgiopcarlasmall.jpg)
smack it.
flip it.
aaaaaaaaaaaand for the first time ever, im uncomfortable
doubt it. no way this beats finding out you have an un-circumsised penis
Quote from: Rome on March 22, 2010, 07:32:39 PM
(http://www.brownsvilleherald.com/pictures/kwgivc-kwgiopcarlasmall.jpg)
smack it.
No way is her skin that smooth. Photoshop FTL.
be careful todd, there are definitely several pedophiles on your staff.
Quote from: Sgt PSN on March 22, 2010, 06:44:39 PM
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on March 21, 2010, 03:43:20 PM
So I was checking out the Brownsville Herald today...
Atta boy Toddy!
http://www.brownsvilleherald.com/sections/our-staff/
where the farg is jew boy?
also.....theresa, carla and jazmine can all make out with my wang.
(http://cdn.bleacherreport.com/images_root/users/photos/000/110/402/but_it_s_for_work_profile_page.jpg?1260307388)
i prefer
(http://www.brownsvilleherald.com/pictures/kj525i-20090429theresamuggdl6702.jpg) get on that KDS... Literally
:-D
Todd got uncomfortable? All the raunchy gay thins he's said and this makes him feel weird...
Quote from: Seabiscuit36 on March 22, 2010, 08:38:26 PM
i prefer
(http://www.brownsvilleherald.com/pictures/kj525i-20090429theresamuggdl6702.jpg) get on that KDS... Literally
same.
aside from like 2 or 3 women, the majority of the staff is pretty hideous looking. so todd should fit in quite nicely.
anyone else notice that even the white looking people have mexican names? give it about 6mo and todd's last name is going to be rodriguezowitz or lopezberg or something.
Quote from: Seabiscuit36 on March 22, 2010, 08:38:26 PM
i prefer
(http://www.brownsvilleherald.com/pictures/kj525i-20090429theresamuggdl6702.jpg) get on that KDS... Literally
that pic screams 3 input.
Quote from: Sgt PSN on March 22, 2010, 06:44:39 PM
(http://cdn.bleacherreport.com/images_root/users/photos/000/110/402/but_it_s_for_work_profile_page.jpg?1260307388)
(http://assets.espn.go.com/media/motion/2009/0307/DM_090307_uconn_pitt_analysis.jpg)
god damn, white people look alike.
thank you, mike
speaking of people who look alike, how about retarded people? ive literally since this exact guy every time i come across one
(http://www.wesleyjsmith.com/blog/uploaded_images/Martin-Ryan-794465.jpg)
they all look the same.
i will say, there was a period of my life when i was 12-13 where i had no clue why no matter what downs kids looked the same. Once i volunteered at a special olympics i had read enough to figure out why, but yes, they all look the same.
i dont need a why i just need an ok
Brownsville....the rest stop for sexual predators (http://www.ultimatefortbend.com/2010/03/suspect-sex-assault-turns-self)
Quote from: KDS on March 24, 2010, 01:20:04 AM
i dont need a why i just need an ok
ok
there ya go. carry on.
Okay...so the ongoing tale from my workplace. I've been told that we can only have 1 "IT" person in the department, and I'm not it. Apparently we have a corporate need for more Six Sigma Black Belts, so I'm also being pushed in that direction, with training to commence in September. In the meantime, I'm being handed a bunch of eco-regulatory compliance stuff to do. Frankly, I have less interest in doing this stuff than I have knowledge of what it all is. And that's precious little.
From what I can tell, the Six Sigma thing is "hot" (career wise) right now, but the thought of doing all that custerfarg stuff is making my stomach turn.
i hate Six Sigma, farging dumb
Six Sigma Black Belt, lol
I do not miss the corporate world at all.
Get out as soon as you can.
Pretty much my thoughts. I can't stand that shtein, and the thought of it being my only career direction here is stressing me out.
Stress will shorten your career as a human with the quickness.
True. I'm a (barely) living example of that.
How much longer is it worth it then? Quit.
Set yourself up consulting. Or get a different job. I don't know.
Life is short, I know that. And I don't think people lay dying, thinking to themselves, "I'm glad I stayed five years too long in that awful job."
Quote from: Diomedes on April 12, 2010, 09:29:34 PM
And I don't think people lay dying, thinking to themselves, "I'm glad I stayed five years too long in that awful job."
that's probably going to be me. i've got 5 yrs left until i retire. my body hurts every day and is probably only going to keep getting worse. i still enjoy the technical side of my job, which is logistics. i enjoy working with other marines and mentoring the young guys coming up through the ranks. but i literally hate the physical aspect of it now. but farg me if i'm walking away from this shtein now without a pension. only way i'm not sticking around until i get to 20 yrs of service is if they medically separate/retire me.
well so much for that idea
Quote from: Diomedes on April 12, 2010, 09:29:34 PM
How much longer is it worth it then? Quit.
Set yourself up consulting. Or get a different job. I don't know.
Life is short, I know that. And I don't think people lay dying, thinking to themselves, "I'm glad I stayed five years too long in that awful job."
Pretty much how I think. My expression is "I don't think anybody, on their death bed, wishes they had one more day to spend at work."
I'm definitely working on a way out. And maybe more than one way.
Quote from: Susquehanna Birder on April 13, 2010, 09:14:26 AM
I'm definitely working on a way out. And maybe more than one way.
anyone else get the feeling that we might end uptalking about sus in the mass shootings thread?
Nah...nobody on this world (or elsewhere) is worth doing that. And I'm not offing myself, either, so don't break out the party gear just yet.
so what's the plan? are you digging a tunnel or something? maybe escaping through the air vents?
Quote from: Susquehanna Birder on April 13, 2010, 11:33:42 AM
Nah...nobody on this world (or elsewhere) is worth doing that. And I'm not offing myself, either, so don't break out the party gear just yet.
KILLYOURSELF!
Quote from: Sgt PSN on April 13, 2010, 11:35:55 AM
so what's the plan? are you digging a tunnel or something? maybe escaping through the air vents?
I plan on changing my state to pure liquid, and seeping out of the cracks in the floor.
Quote from: Susquehanna Birder on April 13, 2010, 12:36:39 PM
Quote from: Sgt PSN on April 13, 2010, 11:35:55 AM
so what's the plan? are you digging a tunnel or something? maybe escaping through the air vents?
I plan on changing my state to pure liquid, and seeping out of the cracks in the floor.
Chan Ho Park tried that and failed
Been interviewing at the US Army's athletic dept for the last month and got a call this weekend that I got the gig. Moving up to West Point at the end of the month...anyone know of any spots up there to call home?
Gonna be a bitch driving from there to the Linc every week, but whatever..
Congrats! What are you doing for the athletic department?
ive been up there twice
campus is old but nice, especially for a football game. the town isnt exactly amazing but youll obviously be surrounded by army peoples, so im sure youre already cool with that. not a terrible drive to philly. 1.5 - 2 hours tops.
congrats on the job, youll be the only jew there.
its easily over two hrs depending on traffic...probably like 2.5 - 3 on the average....and less with absolutely no traffic
i remember making the trip in like 2 hours
maybe im remembering wrong
well done, Die-Hard, congrats.
don't know the area, so I know this much: it's a 2 hour drive
How the farg can anyone make that drive in 2 hours? It's at least two hours to NY and then West Point is another hour north of the city.
Quote from: Rome on June 07, 2010, 05:55:37 PM
How the farg can anyone make that drive in 2 hours? It's at least two hours to NY and then West Point is another hour north of the city.
meth
Congrats DH, i'll take your season tickets off your hands
Ha, thanks guys. Gonna be leading a team selling all of Armys sports properties. Mostly football, obviously but their hockey and lacrosse programs are kinda big too. The area is sweet - I was only up there for the interview process, but I got a tour and its hard not to get charged up while youre up there.
And theres no way WP to Philly can be done in 2 hours. Its easily 3 - and I have a heavy foot.
3 hours sounds about right. And yeah, it's a pretty nice area up there. About an hour away (give or take) is a town called Newburgh which has the bar from Super Troopers. So if you had any reservations about moving up there, you can pretty much eliminate all doubt now.
Congrats on the new gig, btw.
newburgh is much closer than that...its the next town up the hudson i believe and is half hour tops away
im semi familiar with that area as i have a house farther upstate ny that i go to all the time
the foilage on the hudson up there in the fall is absolutely gorgeous..one of the cooler things ive done is having gone to a couple army football games in october...being right there on the river with all the trees is awesome
not sure id wanna live there tho dh...but if you are just there for a few years like i suspect your plan is it could be ok..something different to do
also about a half hour away is the woodbury common outlets...the best outlets in the entire world...if nothing else your girl will LOVE them
His girl will love what he tells her to love.
Congrats on the gig. I've been up there a few times, and it's nice...particularly in the fall. And it's certainly more toward 3 hours than 2. Good luck with it.
Pretty cool gig - congratulations!
So, I don't really hate my job but I still might be out of one as early as January thanks to a laundry list of medical ailments I've accumulated over the years that have finally caught up to me. So, since I'm new to this whole civilian job hunting thing I have questions. Lots of them. But I'll start with 3:
1. Any of yous skilled in the art of resume writing? Know any good websites that can assist? Any of you have a kick ass resume to email to me (for template purposes of course)?
2. Interview do's and don'ts - I know the basics like research the company before interviewing and make sure you wear pants and shtein like that. I'm looking for info that some of you more.....uh, seasoned professional types might have to offer.
3. Since there's a pretty diverse collection of nitwits here who work in various occupational fields, do you know anyone who is hiring (or who may be hiring) someone with the following skills:
Logistics Management/Supervision
Substance Abuse Control Officer (piss checker)
Recruiting/Sales/Communication/Public Speaking
Physical Security/Anti-Terrorism/Operational Security
I can get into specifics in regards to detailed experience, qualifications, accomplishments, etc if need be.
Doesn't the Corp have people who help you transition out and help you with resumes and such? We had to attend stuff for that when getting out of the Army. Do you have any college degrees? If not I would recommend using your GI Bill.
Yeah, they have the Transition Assistance Program.....same as what you went through. It's a good program and there's a lot of good info and assistance but I'm also looking for knowledge from people actively working in the civilian job market, not some guy who got a gov't job 20 years ago and has been telling people how to write a resume ever since.
Got the GI Bill to and definitely plan on using it, but I'm more interested in working full time than going to school full time.
usajobs.gov
http://www.southtexasjobs.com/monster/
you. are. a. stalker.
Quote from: KDS on August 28, 2010, 07:43:45 PM
usajobs.gov
Already registered and have an online resume, but I'm not limiting my job search to just them.
whatever you do make sure you highlight the military stuff
send it out to enough people youre gonna find some republican nut who will eat it up....play him along....CASH MONEY SON
no question, go to school.
Quote from: KDS on August 28, 2010, 07:54:39 PM
you. are. a. stalker.
that. is. the. most. punctuation. you've. ever. used.
not counting commas
Sgt:
The payout on the chapter 33 G.I. Bill is based off the bah of your area...it's also tax free. Factor in what you'll get from disability and add in a part time job and you're not far from what you were making on active duty. Use the VA for any medical needs you may have. The above plan is what I did, I even had a kid along the way and have made out fine. Graduating this fall and will be working full time by January. As for the other stuff (resume's/interviews do's and don'ts) I have a ton of good stuff but I've had a long day and don't feel like getting into it. I'll post it when I get the chance.
Quote from: Diomedes on August 28, 2010, 08:23:41 PM
no question, go to school.
I will, just not sure if I want to go full time to finish up.
SD, is Chapter 33 the new 9/11 GI Bill? I haven't looked into it much yet because I didn't think I'd be needing it quite so soon but I heard it's a major upgrade from Montgomery.
Quote from: KDS on August 28, 2010, 08:11:45 PM
whatever you do make sure you highlight the military stuff
You mean I should tell prospective employers what I've been doing for the last 16 years? You're in Browntown for a reason, ya know?
Quote from: Sgt PSN on August 28, 2010, 09:29:41 PM
Quote from: KDS on August 28, 2010, 08:11:45 PM
whatever you do make sure you highlight the military stuff
You mean I should tell prospective employers what I've been doing for the last 16 years? You're in Browntown for a reason, ya know?
that one was a bit of a reach, sassy
Quote from: Sgt PSN on August 28, 2010, 09:28:37 PM
Quote from: Diomedes on August 28, 2010, 08:23:41 PM
no question, go to school.
I will, just not sure if I want to go full time to finish up.
SD, is Chapter 33 the new 9/11 GI Bill? I haven't looked into it much yet because I didn't think I'd be needing it quite so soon but I heard it's a major upgrade from Montgomery.
Yes. It covers full tuition, books (buy online and pocket the rest) and bah for your area. Going back to school sounds like a big deal but it's a piece of cake next to the shtein you've put yourself through for the last 16 years.
And you probably know this already but make sure EVERYTHING is documented in your medical record and file a claim asap since you'll get back pay on your claim from the date you filed. It takes about 6 months to get a %.
Quote from: Sgt PSN on August 28, 2010, 09:28:37 PMI will, just not sure if I want to go full time to finish up.
go back full time
finish it.
start your own a-team. farg some shtein up.
Quote from: Sgt PSN on August 28, 2010, 06:11:05 PM
I know the basics like research the company before interviewing and make sure you wear pants and shtein like that.
LOL
Use your GI Bill and what you get from disability and you might not even need a part time job depending on what you are rated at by the VA.
I'm hoping for 40-50% so it will basically be like I'm retiring a couple years early. My spine is curving, my right hip is out of whack, arthritis in both knees and nerve damage in my left leg and left forearm. Yay me!
R u getting medically retired?
Quote from: Sgt PSN on August 29, 2010, 08:52:28 PM
I'm hoping for 40-50% so it will basically be like I'm retiring a couple years early. My spine is curving, my right hip is out of whack, arthritis in both knees and nerve damage in my left leg and left forearm. Yay me!
Plus there's the whole "homo" thing...
Quote from: Rome on August 29, 2010, 09:33:47 PM
Quote from: Sgt PSN on August 29, 2010, 08:52:28 PM
I'm hoping for 40-50% so it will basically be like I'm retiring a couple years early. My spine is curving, my right hip is out of whack, arthritis in both knees and nerve damage in my left leg and left forearm. Yay me!
Plus there's the whole "homo" thing...
Yeah, but the pain that comes with that is pleasure.
Quote from: Drunkmasterflex on August 29, 2010, 09:21:38 PM
R u getting medically retired?
Can't say for certain. Anything above 30% from the military is considered medically retired I beleive. But it's too early to tell. And truth be told, I doubt I'll be getting out in January because I'd have to go through the med board process which will likely take longer than that, but my contract is up in Jan and I'm just rolling with that for now and planning as though I could be out that soon. Regardless, I think I've got a year left at the most so I still need to start getting ready.
One thing I'd like to do is get my resume out there and even go on a few interviews just so I can get some practice.
Yeah, you and at least 10% of the country.
Funny shtein (http://www.lettersofnote.com/2010/08/tiger-oil-memos.html)
series of memos from the CEO of a now-defunct oil company - he really values his people!
Quote from: FastFreddie on August 30, 2010, 12:49:18 PM
Funny shtein (http://www.lettersofnote.com/2010/08/tiger-oil-memos.html)
series of memos from the CEO of a now-defunct oil company - he really values his people!
Hard to imagine his company went under.
Quote from: FastFreddie on August 30, 2010, 12:49:18 PM
Funny shtein (http://www.lettersofnote.com/2010/08/tiger-oil-memos.html)
series of memos from the CEO of a now-defunct oil company - he really values his people!
Nice.
For some reason as I was reading them my mind was doing so in Gunnery Sgt Hartmann's voice. So when I got to the part where he said he was not fond of hippies, long-hairs, dope fiends or alcoholics I cracked up.
Quote from: Sgt PSN on August 29, 2010, 08:52:28 PM
I'm hoping for 40-50% so it will basically be like I'm retiring a couple years early. My spine is curving, my right hip is out of whack, arthritis in both knees and nerve damage in my left leg and left forearm. Yay me!
You get an automatic 10% for tinnitus (guy from the VFW told me this at taps). In my case I have an annoying ringing in my ears from working on the flight deck amongst other things. It's so bad I can't think straight when there's too much silence...I usually throw the radio on low volume when I'm studying.
Overall I'm rated at 50%. I'd trade every cent of it for a healthy back but such is life.
Quote from: SD on August 31, 2010, 10:48:37 PM
I'd trade every cent of it for a healthy back but such is life.
You and me both.
One of my not so glorious duties is being in charge of our squadron's supplies.....cleaning gear, pens, paper, staples, etc, etc. This new dude just walked in and asked for a box of printer paper. I told him I only had copier paper and wouldn't be able to order any printer paper until next quarter. He said "Thanks, I'll be back in October" and walked out of my office.
You Coast Guard fellas are funny.
thanks everyone
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You need permission to leave early? Weak.
Yeah....I've been off yesterday and today. Your gov't job sucks.
LOL..."customers."
so a paper with a much smaller circulation than mine has their Northern Illinois football beat position open
hour outside of chicago, yes it MA and crappy MAC football but its a D1 beat
this is much better than what i have now even though its a smaller town, right?
you never responded to the PM I sent you about that job, swickhole
my feelings were hurted
Quote from: MDS on November 22, 2010, 05:49:14 PM
so a paper with a much smaller circulation than mine has their Northern Illinois football beat position open
hour outside of chicago, yes it MA and crappy MAC football but its a D1 beat
this is much better than what i have now even though its a smaller town, right?
What town is it exactly? Is it an hour outside Chicago or an hour from the closest suburb of Chicago?
dekalb, where the school is
google says 1 and change
Quote from: MDS on November 22, 2010, 05:49:14 PM
so a paper with a much smaller circulation than mine has their Northern Illinois football beat position open
hour outside of chicago, yes it MA and crappy MAC football but its a D1 beat
this is much better than what i have now even though its a smaller town, right?
Definitely. Chicago is a cool city. Get the hell out of Texas if you can't get to Austin.
Quote from: phillycrew on November 23, 2010, 09:08:01 AM
Quote from: MDS on November 22, 2010, 05:49:14 PM
so a paper with a much smaller circulation than mine has their Northern Illinois football beat position open
hour outside of chicago, yes it MA and crappy MAC football but its a D1 beat
this is much better than what i have now even though its a smaller town, right?
Definitely. Chicago is a cool city. Get the hell out of Texas if you can't get to Austin.
This x 100000000
Quote from: MDS on November 22, 2010, 07:27:53 PM
dekalb, where the school is
google says 1 and change
DeKalb, where Northern Illinois is located, is an alright college town I guess. But it's definitely close enough to Chicago to make it worth the move
yea, plus if you make the move this week, you guys can hang out at the bears game.
Quote from: Die-Hard on November 23, 2010, 10:54:55 AM
yea, plus if you make the move this week, you guys can hang out at the bears game.
false
So Jew boy is looking at moving from the oven to the freezer so he can cover a D1 debate team. Whatever.
Quote from: Die-Hard on November 23, 2010, 10:54:55 AM
yea, plus if you make the move this week, you guys can hang out at the bears game.
I'm not even sure Tomahawk is going to the game this weekend. I haven't heard anything about it.
on a scale of philly to davenport, iowa, how MA is this town? just so im prepared in the rare case that they hire me.
You really need to kill yourself.
Just completed week 4 (of 5) of "Lean Design for Six Sigma." I don't think I'll be going to full certification, though. Maybe.
If nothing else, the company is taking the whole class out for a good meal (and an open bar) during the last week. That alone should get me into trouble that no amount of statistical bullshtein can get me out of.
Quote from: MDS on November 23, 2010, 12:36:50 PM
on a scale of philly to davenport, iowa, how MA is this town? just so im prepared in the rare case that they hire me.
its a college town so it has to be fairly liberal and progressive...just dont leave the campus grounds or else risk running into this (http://www.philaflava.com/forum/images/smiles/dcracistemo0mp.gif)
fwiw my brother who is a text book case of a liberal elitist just moved to iowa city to attend univ of iowa and he doesnt despise it
04
47% kerry
52% bush
08
58% barry
41% mac
at least its not staunchly conservative.
other than maybe the town that bob jones university is in and liberty you arent gonna find too many staunchly conservative college towns
Quote from: Susquehanna Birder on November 23, 2010, 12:57:35 PM
Just completed week 4 (of 5) of "Lean Design for Six Sigma." I don't think I'll be going to full certification, though. Maybe.
If nothing else, the company is taking the whole class out for a good meal (and an open bar) during the last week. That alone should get me into trouble that no amount of statistical bullshtein can get me out of.
Getting a Green Belt or Black Belt? Either way, if you decide to complete the training, you should wear the belt and a gi to the office the next day
Quote from: rjs246 on November 23, 2010, 11:42:32 AM
Quote from: Die-Hard on November 23, 2010, 10:54:55 AM
yea, plus if you make the move this week, you guys can hang out at the bears game.
I'm not even sure Tomahawk is going to the game this weekend. I haven't heard anything about it.
Really? Wasnt he talking about how he was gonna be louder there then we all were in Fedex? I cant keep you idiots straight anymore.
There's a game this week?
MMH can't wait to go.
Quote from: Tomahawk on November 23, 2010, 01:55:40 PM
Getting a Green Belt or Black Belt? Either way, if you decide to complete the training, you should wear the belt and a gi to the office the next day
Black. Maybe I should bring in my small collection of Chinese weapons.
theres a jackie chang joke in there somewhere
I don't really hate my job, but I hate some of the things that come with it. Some icehole projectile vomited on one of the ATM's yesterday. Note to self, don't ever power wash puke with hot water, makes the stench unbearable.
Quote from: shorebird on November 24, 2010, 10:07:31 AM
Some icehole projectile vomited on one of the ATM's yesterday.
That's so awesome.
I definitely would watch the security video from the ATM
One guy, one ATM.
i'm taking a 13 day vacation for absolutely no reason.
merry christmas.
I was up for a promotion, went in for my final interview yesterday and found out the position was down to me & a guy who's been with the govt. for six years longer than me.
I just found out he got the job after the chief deputy & district director argued over it for two hours this morning.
The chief told me it was the hardest decision she's made since taking the job and that I shouldn't feel discouraged. I feel zesty mostly because I have the worst cold I've ever had, but honestly, I don't feel bad about not getting the job because I really didn't want it to begin with. I had handprints on my back from people pushing me towards it for the last month.
Whatever, though. My life sucks. The end.
Keep the positivity Rome.
farg you and your positivity
I'm almost done at my POS job. Tech work is great except when you have to deal with stupid fargs that don't know shtein about technology but keep buying electronics anyway just to keep up with the Jones's. 6 more weeks and I'm out of this zesty job and this zesty state! Woohoo!
how long after you apply for a Government job do they usually contact you? I applied for one this morning.
It's the government, give it 6 months to a year
Quote from: Rome on December 23, 2010, 01:38:17 PM
I was up for a promotion, went in for my final interview yesterday and found out the position was down to me & a guy who's been with the govt. for six years longer than me.
I just found out he got the job after the chief deputy & district director argued over it for two hours this morning.
The chief told me it was the hardest decision she's made since taking the job and that I shouldn't feel discouraged. I feel zesty mostly because I have the worst cold I've ever had, but honestly, I don't feel bad about not getting the job because I really didn't want it to begin with. I had handprints on my back from people pushing me towards it for the last month.
Whatever, though. My life sucks. The end.
Wow. I feel depressed for reading that now. It is sunny today...but it's like a dark cloud now looms blocking any ray of hope into my life.
Rome, I'm going to go have sex with your wife. If you are not married, then your mother. And you are going to find us having sex. And I'm not going to care because I'm pretty sure your reaction would be very similar to that. So make sure there's beer in the fridge. If there's not, she's getting it in the butt.
haaaaa
Awesome.
Don't pretend that you're not going to PIITB regardless.
I have a job interview next week with the VA. Instead of boring you with the details lets just say it's counseling veterans on rights and determining eligibility for certain programs. So I ask, what should I expect. Keep in mind I've never had a job interview.
You should probably expect to not get the job then. Seriously....try and cram a couple interviews for jobs you don't care about in between now and then just so you get some interview experience under your belt.
Also, since it's a VA job, you should probably show up in a wheel chair or something.
Thanks for the encouragement.
I've been reading up on probable questions from people who have interviewed with them before. I forgot that I interviewed for a similar position 2-3 years ago...although it was a part time gig for students...it was more of an assistants job. I got that one but had to decline because the hours didn't work with my schedule.
sd isnt this the job from a few years ago me and you talked about?
Quote from: ice grillin you on February 25, 2011, 09:44:50 PM
sd isnt this the job from a few years ago me and you talked about?
Quote from: SD on February 25, 2011, 09:22:43 PM
I interviewed for a similar position 2-3 years ago
Quote from: SD on February 25, 2011, 09:22:43 PM
Thanks for the encouragement.
Go get 'em, tiger!
Quote from: ice grillin you on February 25, 2011, 09:44:50 PM
sd isnt this the job from a few years ago me and you talked about?
yeah...I couldn't accept it at the time because the hours were 6-10 PM and I had nobody to watch my daughter. That one was only part time because I was a full time student. Any advice?
i mean theres not much i can give if you are on the cusp of your interview...i could have helped with the rsume and application process....govt jobs are mostly resume driven...interviews count but because its by the book its hard to blow anyone away in a govt interview like you can in the public sector
I get 10 point veteran's preference so I have a big advantage. zanshin actually helped me out a bit...his resume is intimidating.
Quote from: SD on February 26, 2011, 12:15:45 AM
I get 10 point veteran's preference so I have a big advantage.
definitely...this is what im talking about when i say interviews dont matter that much in the govt....its who they should and who they are required to hire not who they would like to
So how did you get a gov't job? Affirmative action?
i got laid off when the tech boom went boom...not a good feeling...so i was like where can i go to get the best job security possible so that this never happens again....girl i was diggin out at the time was in the govt and she was like do this!...why not right?...nothing to lose....took over a 100% paycut to get in...mad over qualified for my position...but thats how you gotta do when you are coming cold turkey from the private sector...
not that theres a lot of competition for the title but it was the best move ive ever made in my life
Just out of curiosity, but did you have any connections other than your girl? My squaw's been applying for jobs on base for the last 2 years and can't even get an interview.....just a generic email stating that they filled the position from within. Gov't jobs tend to be a good ol' boy network and because she's not prior military or a military dependent, her resume goes to the very bottom of the pile and the job is always filled before they even get to her. She's even applied for positions with the DOD Police on base and can't get her foot in the door for an interview, even though she was a cop for 8 years. Yet every day when I drive through the gate to get on base, I see a few women checking id cards and you can tell that they had absolutely no prior experience and would probably shtein themselves if shtein hit the fan. But their spouses are active duty military, so they get some preference for that. Pisses me off sometimes.
You'd better marry her, then.
i had no connections period...theres no such thing as connections in the govt....she helped with curbin my resume the way it needed to go...but as far as hiring people its goes by the book.....the only reason i got a job is like i said i was ridiculously over qualified for the position...in fact during the interview i was asked why are you taking this...and i told them straight up because im unemployed and just want my foot in the door...10 years later im makin over 100k...ive said it a million times on this board and me and sd have talked at tailgate...there is no better job than a govt job...unless of course you have a masters in some shtein like accounting or engineering or some specialized field
Quote from: General_Failure on February 26, 2011, 01:37:12 AM
You'd better marry her, then.
Yeah, that ain't happening. We're committed to each other, that's good enough.
Quote from: ice grillin you on February 26, 2011, 01:42:44 AM
i had no connections period...theres no such thing as connections in the govt....she helped with curbin my resume the way it needed to go...but as far as hiring people its goes by the book.....the only reason i got a job is like i said i was ridiculously over qualified for the position...in fact during the interview i was asked why are you taking this...and i told them straight up because im unemployed and just want my foot in the door...10 years later im makin over 100k...ive said it a million times on this board and me and sd have talked at tailgate...there is no better job than a govt job...unless of course you have a masters in some shtein like accounting or engineering or some specialized field
Guess not all gov't jobs have a network, but on military bases they definitely do.
I may be facing a medical retirement by the end of this year. If that's the case, I'll def be hitting you guys up for some resume tips because I'm getting ready to hit 17 yrs service and if I'm not able to stick it out until 20, then I'm def going to look at gov't jobs first.
yeah i cant speak on how dod jobs work.....but if you need any hand holdin on gettin a reg govt job just let me know...id be glad to help
Sarge, if you know you might be getting out soon save your fitreps and make sure you keep your medical records handy. The day you're out or even before file with the VA for disability. If I were you I'd get a disability settlement, use the new GI Bill, and work part time. I know your situation and all but you'll be surprised how much you can make utilizing those three things.
I did my own Government resume so if you need tips let me know. I've been fine tuning mine, it's an ongoing process thought because you tailor it to fit job descriptions. Also, Veteran's have a program called VECS which helps you do your resume and find a job.
Interview went well, there were 2 people conducting the interview. They asked 5 PBI questions then a couple of questions about my resume. Feel pretty good about getting the position but we'll see.
2 things about my job pissing me off today.
1. Got orders to go to Miramar in San Diego in August. SD is great but I want to get the farg out of Cali. This state is broke, the economy sucks and it's not going to get any better any time soon. Hell, gas prices will hit $4.00/gal by the end of the week most likely. Living in the high desert area is expensive enough and my cost of living will more than double with this move.
2. 2 Marines stood NJP for adultery. A male Sgt and female Cpl were both reduced in rank (which also results in a loss of pay), restricted to the barracks for 45 days and also got 45 days of extra duty (which is basically 2 hours a day of cleaning, painting, etc). I hate the fact that in the military adultery is a crime. Adultery is a religious sin and shouldn't even be part of military law imo. I don't have a problem with the fact that the military holds us to higher personal standards than the civilian world and that our off duty actions can carry significant weight on our careers, but I think this is over the top and out of date.
In all my years in the Navy I never saw anyone go to mass for adultery. That must be a jarhead thing cause every person I know in the Navy cheated on their spouses on deployment. Everyone.
Quote from: SD on March 01, 2011, 10:50:17 AM
Interview went well, there were 2 people conducting the interview. They asked 5 PBI questions then a couple of questions about my resume. Feel pretty good about getting the position but we'll see.
Good luck, it sounds like the kind of work (if bureaucracy doesn't get in the way) you can feel good about doing, which is a big plus in life.
Quote from: SD on March 01, 2011, 03:33:45 PM
In all my years in the Navy I never saw anyone go to mass for adultery. That must be a jarhead thing cause every person I know in the Navy cheated on their spouses on deployment. Everyone.
On deployment is one thing and there's that "unwritten rule" about it. These were 2 Marines (both married) who were having a relationship with each other. In a nutshell, what happened was the guy's wife found text messages and took it to the command and the command charged them with adultery. I don't feel too bad for these specific individuals because it's been suspected for quite some time because they were spending so much time together and both Marines were counseled and told that they need to stop sending time together, so they were both given an opportunity to end their relationship (or at the very least, do a better job of covering their tracks) but they both opted not to. So shame on them in that regard for being stupid. I just think it's ridiculous that adultery is still a punishable offense.
Not for nothing, Sassy, but couldn't you catch shtein for blasting the military in a public forum like this?
I mean, I completely agree with everything you posted, but Jesus, dude...
:paranoid
Quote from: Sgt PSN on March 01, 2011, 04:06:44 PM
Quote from: SD on March 01, 2011, 03:33:45 PM
In all my years in the Navy I never saw anyone go to mass for adultery. That must be a jarhead thing cause every person I know in the Navy cheated on their spouses on deployment. Everyone.
On deployment is one thing and there's that "unwritten rule" about it. These were 2 Marines (both married) who were having a relationship with each other. In a nutshell, what happened was the guy's wife found text messages and took it to the command and the command charged them with adultery. I don't feel too bad for these specific individuals because it's been suspected for quite some time because they were spending so much time together and both Marines were counseled and told that they need to stop sending time together, so they were both given an opportunity to end their relationship (or at the very least, do a better job of covering their tracks) but they both opted not to. So shame on them in that regard for being stupid. I just think it's ridiculous that adultery is still a punishable offense.
On my first ship, the Captain (his name was Steve Miller, biggest icehole to ever walk on the face of the Earth) was having an affair with the CHENG's (Chief Engineer) wife. The Captain was also married. Know what his punishment was? The CHENG got removed from the ship and the Captain made 0-6.
Quote from: Rome on March 01, 2011, 05:17:11 PM
Not for nothing, Sassy, but couldn't you catch shtein for blasting the military in a public forum like this?
I mean, I completely agree with everything you posted, but Jesus, dude...
:paranoid
In some cases, yes. But I don't think it really applies here because I'm not complaining about a specific person in my command like the Commanding Officer and I'm not complaining about the way my squadron handled this event. Just complaining about a single article of military law. And its not like I'm just blasting away on it, just saying that i think the law is outdated.
I've got almost 17 years of service.. So if someone wants to.come at me over something this petty, then let them.
Short answer: I have a medical discharge in the works.
That's my last resort. I don't want to take a medical separation although I'm not sure if the thought of staying in California until I retire is really the motivation I'm looking for to stay in either.
Sarge, I know you told me this but aren't you in San Diego now? My niece is getting married and her fiance is currently stationed at Kaneohe. He is going to Fallon, NV in May or June. What do you know about it? He loved Kaneohe. Best beach in the state is on the base.
I'm about 90 min northeast of LA and 4 hours north of SD. Dont know anything about Fallon though.
So I start on Monday with the VA. Got the job. farg yeah.
did you notify facebook or cf first? these are questions that must be answered.
Quote from: SD on March 07, 2011, 03:23:29 PM
So I start on Monday with the VA. Got the job. farg yeah.
Congrats. Now I know who to send my claim to.
80%, right? RIGHT?!?!?
Congrats, SD. I'm sure it was your kick-ass resume that nailed it down.
Quote from: DH on March 07, 2011, 03:25:04 PM
did you notify facebook or cf first? these are questions that must be answered.
Facebook because I know my entire family is on there and posting it there is easier then sending out 20 text messages.
Quote from: Zanshin on March 07, 2011, 04:06:09 PM
Congrats, SD. I'm sure it was your kick-ass resume that nailed it down.
hell yeah. Thanks again for you help.
what about this job is so great
please be specific including detailed pay scale and any hot co-workers
is this the VA in roxborough? i used to deliver there when i was a pizza boy (the job before the sushi one for those scoring at home)
No the one on Wissahickon ave.
Quote from: Zanshin on March 07, 2011, 04:06:09 PM
Congrats, SD. I'm sure it was your kick-ass resume that nailed it down.
If I don't get this next gig I have on the horizon, I'd like to enlist your services. I will gladly pay you in American dollars and/or brownie points.
Quote from: FastFreddie on March 07, 2011, 06:35:13 PM
Quote from: Zanshin on March 07, 2011, 04:06:09 PM
Congrats, SD. I'm sure it was your kick-ass resume that nailed it down.
If I don't get this next gig I have on the horizon, I'd like to enlist your services. I will gladly pay you in American dollars and/or brownie points.
I just helped out by sharing my resume because he was interested in the same field. That said, I'd be happy to take a look if/when you want another set of eyes and/or opinion. Neither dollars nor brownie points are necessary. I take souls.
Quote from: SD on March 07, 2011, 05:29:15 PM
No the one on Wissahickon ave.
wait a minute...thats the one i was talking about.
and im not remembering my philly neighborhoods correctly. and kill me.
Apply to be Charlie Sheen's summer intern (http://cs.internships.com/charlie-sheen-internship/?adly_id=1373351728)
Quote from: FastFreddie on March 07, 2011, 06:35:13 PM
Quote from: Zanshin on March 07, 2011, 04:06:09 PM
Congrats, SD. I'm sure it was your kick-ass resume that nailed it down.
If I don't get this next gig I have on the horizon, I'd like to enlist your services. I will gladly pay you in American dollars and/or brownie points.
zanshin's resume is intimidating.
Anyone do a Government background check recently? I had one done when I was in the Navy but that was '98. I have nothing to hide but have some minor questions.
Quote from: SD on March 07, 2011, 07:55:11 PM
Quote from: FastFreddie on March 07, 2011, 06:35:13 PM
Quote from: Zanshin on March 07, 2011, 04:06:09 PM
Congrats, SD. I'm sure it was your kick-ass resume that nailed it down.
If I don't get this next gig I have on the horizon, I'd like to enlist your services. I will gladly pay you in American dollars and/or brownie points.
zanshin's resume is intimidating.
^^^^^^^^^
This guy looks up to him.
(http://purplejesus.files.wordpress.com/2009/07/dosequisman.jpg)
Congrats on the job, SD.
I do, actually, hate my job. For the second time in three years, powers-that-be eliminated every position on my team and then told everyone they can re-interview for the fewer jobs they decided they want/need. It's like obnoxious musical chairs, survivor-style. Should really ramp up teamwork and productivity, I'm sure.
That's corporate life for you.
If only those union elitists weren't farging things up for everyone.
Quote from: SD on March 07, 2011, 07:56:14 PM
Anyone do a Government background check recently? I had one done when I was in the Navy but that was '98. I have nothing to hide but have some minor questions.
I had to recertify last year. Go ahead and PM any question. I've come to be numb to my job, it just sucks that we haven't seen a pay raise in three years. I have to hope my boss retires at some point so I can get ahead.
Quote from: phillycrew on March 10, 2011, 11:10:32 AM
Quote from: SD on March 07, 2011, 07:56:14 PM
Anyone do a Government background check recently? I had one done when I was in the Navy but that was '98. I have nothing to hide but have some minor questions.
I had to recertify last year. Go ahead and PM any question. I've come to be numb to my job, it just sucks that we haven't seen a pay raise in three years. I have to hope my boss retires at some point so I can get ahead.
Check your pms and thanks.
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Federal employees' job security is so great that workers in many agencies are more likely to die of natural causes than get laid off or fired, a USA Today analysis finds.
Death — rather than poor performance, misconduct or layoffs — is the primary threat to job security at the Environmental Protection Agency, the Small Business Administration, the Department of Housing and Urban Development, the Office of Management and Budget and a dozen other federal operations.
The federal government fired 0.55 percent of its workers in the budget year that ended Sept. 30 — 11,668 employees in its 2.1 million workforce. Research shows that the private sector fires about 3 percent of workers annually for poor performance, says John Palguta, former research chief at the federal Merit Systems Protection Board, which handles federal firing disputes.
The 1,800-employee Federal Communications Commission and the 1,200-employee Federal Trade Commission didn't lay off or fire a single employee last year. The SBA had no layoffs, six firings and 17 deaths in its 4,000-employee workforce.
When job security is at a premium, the federal government remains the place to work for those who want to avoid losing a job. The job security rate for all federal workers was 99.43 percent last year and nearly 100 percent for those on the job more than a few years.
HUD spokesman Jerry Brown says his department's low dismissal rate — providing a 99.85 percent job security rate for employees — shows a skilled and committed workforce. "We've never focused on firing people, and we don't intend to start now. We're more focused on hiring the right people," he says.
San Francisco State University management professor John Sullivan, an expert on employee turnover, says the low departure rates show a failure to release poor performers and those with obsolete skills. "Rather than indicating something positive, rates below 1 percent in the firing and layoff components would indicate a serious management problem," he says.
The government laid off 385 people in reorganizations last year — a 0.02 percent rate, or one in every 6,000 employees. No comparable private sector layoff rate is available.
USA Today analyzed the Office of Personnel Management's database to examine job security in the federal workforce. Firings are for all reasons, including poor performance, stealing and sexual harassment. The Postal Service and uniformed military personnel are not included in the data. Departures from seasonal jobs, such as Census taker, are not counted.
"The notion that you can't fire federal workers is a myth because we do it. But it doesn't happen frequently," says Palguta, vice president of the Partnership for Public Service, which advocates for a high-quality government workforce.
Palguta says some federal workers quit before they are fired, so the data underestimate how many poor performers are weeded out. Efforts to streamline the government cause few layoffs because federal law gives preference to certain workers, such as military veterans, making it hard to match protected workers with the skills needed, he says.
USA Today found that nearly 60 percent of firings occur in the first two years of employment, mostly workers on probation and outside the federal job protection system. Blue-collar workers are twice as likely to be fired as white-collar employees. The federal government's 12,700 food preparation workers had the highest rate of getting fired last year — 2.5 percent.
White-collar federal workers have almost total job security after a few years on the job. Last year, the government fired none of its 3,000 meteorologists, 2,500 health insurance administrators, 1,000 optometrists, 800 historians or 500 industrial property managers.
The nearly half-million federal employees earning $100,000 or more enjoyed a 99.82 percent job security rate in 2010. Only 27 of 35,000 federal attorneys were fired last year. None was laid off. Death claimed 33.
Other findings:
• Secure location: The 168,000 federal workers in Washington had the safest jobs — 99.74 percent job security in 2010. Least secure: Indiana — 98.35 percent.
• Salary: Two-thirds of those fired or laid off earned less than $50,000 a year.
• Total turnover: NASA, the space agency, had the government's lowest total turnover rate in 2010 — just 4 percent of its 18,700 employees quit, died, retired or were dismissed.
I was going to post this. Time for shakeups. First thing I'd do is take away IGY's every other monday off.
id be one of those people who quit and sway the numbers if that happened
one of the principal complaints Republicans make to the press with the new consumer protection bureau is that it's just another big government agency and a bunch of new bureaucrats getting jobs for life.
so what do they demand? installing a board of directors rather than an individual director.
more headcount & bosses will:
a.) be more efficient
b.) be less wasteful
c.) reduce bureaucracy
d.) cost less
e.) all of the above
if you are a republican, you choose E
im at work today acting as an escort for some contractors that are doing work in the building and im about lose it...been in a 15 story office building with no one in it posting on this board since 6am
How many people in there normally post here?
If you're a shade shy of hammered, do you answer work e-mails from the homebase when an astute person might realize you're responding at 2 in the AM?
I vote yes.
farg work.
Done...internet advice is worth its weight in gold. I also agree I should drink the 2 Tsing Taos and 2 Heinikens in the fridge
My orders to San Diego got canceled yesterday.....as I was loading a Uhaul truck.
My reenlistment also got denied thanks to a new policy that came out a couple of weeks ago stating that any Staff Sergeant (me) who has been passed for promotion to the next rank (Gunnery Sgt) is not guaranteed reenlistment. So instead, they canceled my orders and extended my contract until April, which will allow me to be looked at for promotion in January. If I get promoted, then I reenlist with no problems. If I don't get promoted (and I doubt I will) then people much higher rank than me will have to make the determination as to whether or not I can continue service.
The writing is on the wall....I'm 4 years away from retirement and the Marine Corps has been cutting their manpower like crazy over the last year. So I guess April is the end of my time.
Best part though is that since they waited so long to tell me all of this, I had already given notice to my landlady that I'd be out by Oct 1 and she has already found a renter to move into my place. Luckily for me, she owns a house down the street that I can move into (it was offered to the tenant scheduled to take my place but she didn't want it.) So now I get to move all of my shtein a whopping 75yds to the new house, which isn't quite ready for a tenant yet as it still needs to be cleaned and touch up work done from the previous tenant but I guess I just gotta role with the punches on this one.
So yeah, really had the rug pulled out from under me in the last 24 hours. Farg everything. Except the Phils.
Middle management sucks no matter where you work.
Sorry Sassy.
Yeah, that's pretty much it. Funny thing is that had I submitted my reenlistment paperwork a week or 2 sooner, this wouldn't have been an issue. But I couldn't submit sooner because I was on a limited duty status for a bulging disk in my back (along with a couple other medical issues) and you can't reenlist unless you are on full duty. When I was re-examined in Auguest, I was told that even though my back wasn't complelely fixed, it wasn't bad enough to require surgery so I could not remain on limited duty. My options were either go back on full duty, suck it up and hope the condition doesn't get worse or take a medical separation. I opted for full duty and submitted my reenlistment as soon as I was cleared, but that new policy had just been approved.
So I guess I'll have to see if I can get into the Army or something so I can get my 20. I don't know if they'll take me because I'm so senior but I guess it's worth a shot.
I'm sorry too. That being said, be a marine and go to war.
Sorry to hear that dude
Quote from: Tomahawk on September 29, 2011, 02:47:08 PM
I'm sorry too. That being said, be a marine and go to war.
Good advice. A little known secret is that every Marine gets the firing code to 1 nuclear missile. I'm aiming mine towards China.
ok i just remembered this happened
2 weeks or so ago i get an email from an editor out in cali for a gig i applied for. asked if i could live on the proposed ballpark salary in this area (in between sf/la). said get back to me within a few days. i said yea i can do that the next morning.
thats been it.
so was i a finalist or something, then they just went in another direction and didnt bother telling me? or was this sent to everyone who applied and its bs for me.
my guess is the first...they are just being unprofessional and not letting me know the job is filled.
You were looking in Bakersfield, weren't you?
hahahaha@unprofessional. Be surprised they contacted you to begin with; don't expect them to let you know when you lose
Quote from: Sgt PSN on September 29, 2011, 02:58:08 PM
Quote from: Tomahawk on September 29, 2011, 02:47:08 PM
I'm sorry too. That being said, be a marine and go to war.
Good advice. A little known secret is that every Marine gets the firing code to 1 nuclear missile. I'm aiming mine towards China.
Matthew Broderick advises against such shenanigans
Quote from: Sgt PSN on September 29, 2011, 03:00:29 PM
You were looking in Bakersfield, weren't you?
san luis opispo...or whatever its called...where cal poly is
and i didnt even interview or anything. so how can i lose when all i do is say yes i can live there on that salary. maybe i should have said no?
You lose because you obviously didn't get the job and San Luis Obispo is almost an alternate route of the PCH
You lose because you are still in texas and didn't bother googling some apartments on the web and doing the math. You deserve Texas as much as Texas deserves you. (if you are still in Texas, I haven't been following).
Damn Sarge, what the F? That is a major buttfarg courtesy of the military.
Did they say anything about your bulging package?
Actually the little guy is right. That's completely unprofessional but all too common behavior these days.
its one thing to never get back to me....generally you like to a mass email sent to everyone saying we have our finalists, thanks for applying. but you rarely get that.
to get to what i think was the next level and then for 2 weeks to go by without a peep....eh...not good. if they found someone, if its on hold, too busy to touch it, whatever. something should have been sent.
i just emailed the dude...its been 2 weeks since the email he sent to me, so well see. im not expecting anything out of this but i did drive through this part of the country and its off the charts. plus there are loads of smart asians in this town.
Quote from: MDS on September 29, 2011, 03:35:38 PM
its one thing to never get back to me....generally you like to a mass email sent to everyone saying we have our finalists, thanks for applying. but you rarely get that.
to get to what i think was the next level and then for 2 weeks to go by without a peep....eh...not good. if they found someone, if its on hold, too busy to touch it, whatever. something should have been sent.
i just emailed the dude...its been 2 weeks since the email he sent to me, so well see. im not expecting anything out of this but i did drive through this part of the country and its off the charts. plus there are loads of smart asians in this town.
Call them as a follow up.
still cant find the i love my job thread
so i got off three hours early today for columbus day holiday weekend....and now i am off till the 17th and only have to take three days of leave because monday is the holiday and my regular every other monday off day slides to tuesday....phillies tonight then off the the outer banks tomorrow for a week....liver destruction has commenced
i haven't been to my office since two wednesdays ago. dc is where its at people.
matty we got hit this spot one night...beats oysters and rob roys....say word
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Blackbyrd Warehouse
2005 14th St. NW. No phone.
twitter.com/blackbyrd_dc. Oyster happy hour: from 5:30 to 7 p.m. and from 11:30 p.m. to 1 a.m. daily.
If there's another place where you can start your night with a dozen oysters and a Rob Roy before heading upstairs for grooving to a DJ and watching old movies, well, I haven't heard of it. But that's what awaits most nights at Blackbyrd Warehouse.
Blackbyrd is the newest U Street hangout from bar magnates Eric and Ian Hilton. It takes its name from the Blackbyrds, a '70s jazz/funk group led by trumpeter (and Howard professor) Donald Byrd whose hit "Rock Creek Park" is one of Washington's unofficial anthems.
Downstairs has that easy/casual industrial vibe: One wall is shared with the bar Marvin and covered with graffiti and posters, while the rest of the space feels like a warehouse conversion.
The raw bar sends out a steady stream of oysters and clams perched atop platters of ice, plus lobster rolls, half-pound plates of peel-and-eat steamed shrimp (which could use a little more Old Bay) and cheesy crab dip.
There's a surprisingly good wine list (most glasses $8) with crisp whites to complement the seafood. The draft beer selection includes Murphy's Stout and the pilsner from locals Lost Rhino ($6 each, though the former is $4 during happy hour). And then there are the classic drinks ($11 each): Rob Roys, Old Fashioneds and fizzing French 75s, because nothing says "I'm off work" like oysters and champagne cocktails.
If the first floor is industrial, the upstairs is anything but: It's essentially a big shoe box with walls two-stories high. The front is filled with a long bar counter, while tables, banquettes and comfortable chairs run the length of the room. At night, flickering candles line the walls and a chandelier glows overhead. A huge movie screen is high on the back wall, and black-and-white classics show silently while top-notch DJs drop funk, old-school hip-hop, soul and yacht rock.
If you dig the vibe in Marvin's homey upstairs lounge but find the place too claustrophobic, then this is the place to go.
Speaking of Marvin, the big disappointment at Blackbyrd is the large back patio. It's been appropriated by the sister space, so it's not possible for Blackbyrd's customers to spend time outside. You'll have to leave and go to Marvin for that — but between the tunes, the drinks and the laid-back vibe, you might not want to.
Gotta' love getting paid for not working all because some italian guy discovered America. I'm taking a week of my vaca after the Sunday night Dallas game, my b-day is that friday, the game is a present. Won't be as old as dirt but I think I'm catching up.
the great thing is that columbus never set foot in america
I'm not complaining because it's a day off but one has to wonder how long Columbus day will be a holiday. It's easily the dumbest of all national holidays...and this is coming from a wop.
I took the Monday after the Dallas game off. No way I can go to that game at night and function normally at work the next day.
I'll be lucky to get home by 2am. I won't be going to sleep, I'll be passing out.
my last month of work has consisted of approximately 90% retreats, massages, dinners and three hundred dollar bottles of wine and maybe 10% real work. i love the private sector.
just got back from a 4 day offsite meeting in charleston, sc. cool little city. too sleepy for a place to live but i would definitely visit again. really good restaurants and lots of cute girls.
Moving the conversation here since it's topic appropriate.
Quote from: Sgt PSN on January 11, 2012, 01:15:29 PM
Quote from: Diomedes on January 10, 2012, 09:12:48 PM
They don't want you to make retirement, huh?
Not me specifically, but in a round about way, yes. I think I posted about this somewhere else, but about a month or so before I tried reenlisting, new policy came out that said that Staff Sergeants who have been passed over twice for promotion were no longer guaranteed reenlistment. I've been twice passed for promotion, mostly because my job field has only promoted 3 people in the last 4 years. I've got about 50 or so guys I'm competing with for promotion and the ones who have been promoted have all had seniority on me. So I didn't get passed due to poor performance, I'm just not as experienced as the more senior guys. Anyway, the Marine Corps added nearly 40k troops during the last 7 years to fight in Iraq. Now that it's over, it's time to cut numbers and that always starts at the top and works it's way down. I'll most likely be out in April.....which really sucks because I'll be at 16.5 years of active service and the 18 year mark is considered sanctuary which means that anyone with 18 years has to be retained until they hit 20 to retire. So I'll be 18 months short. So close, yet so far...
Quote from: Diomedes on January 11, 2012, 01:54:49 PM
That just makes no goddamn sense. So now you'll get kicked to the curb, with no f'n jobs available, and you won't get dick all for the years you served.
Yay military.
It sucks, but I suspect I'm getting the same treatment that would take place in a similar situation in the civilian world. The 2 notable differences though is that in the civilian world, I would have been paying into a 401k plan which I could take with me to my new job. I don't have to pay into a retirement plan in the military, so there's no money lost but at the same time I'm now about 17 years behind a civilian who has been paying into one. The other difference is insurance. Military retirement would give me full medical from the day I retire until I die and for my kids until they graduate college. Now I'll have to pay (a lot) for my coverage along with the coverage for my kids. I can still go to the VA for nothing to get looked at for anything military related such as my knees or back, but anything that occurs after I get out will come out of my pocket.
But truth be told, I'm kind of ready to move on. I've grown tired of the military over the last 5 or 6 years. The last time I reenlisted (2007) I was strongly considering getting out and very well may have had it not been for the job market and economy starting to head down the crapper. I love it but at the same time, I'm ready for something new. Of course, since I feel like I've invested so much of my life towards retiring before I turn 40, I'll still probably look into the Army or Air Force to see if I can eek out my last few years and get to 20. If either branch will take me, then I'll probably jump on it. That is of course, unless Matty can get me a job in his company. His post above sounds like a great line of work to be in.
Sarge, what is your MOS? I work for a pretty large government contractor, we love hiring prior military. If you are interested let me know and I can see what we have.
definitely apply for any and all government jobs on usa jobs as well....military heads obviously get priority
USAJobs can be a bitch to navigate. If you have a local CAO (Civilian Affairs Rep) talk to them. They can explain how to use the site and adjust your resume for positions. ClrearanceJobs is another good one. Take a SEPS class too.
Quote from: PhillyPhanInDC on January 11, 2012, 03:11:59 PM
Sarge, what is your MOS? I work for a pretty large government contractor, we love hiring prior military. If you are interested let me know and I can see what we have.
0431 - Embark specialist. I've been the Log Chief for the last 3 years though so I've been running the entire Logistics shop for my squadron....Embark, Supply, Fiscal, GSA fleet management, Facilities, etc, etc.
Already have a profile/resume on USAJobs, although I def need to fine tune the resume. Already been to SEPS/TAPS too. I'll have to check out that other job site though. Is it actually ClrearanceJobs or is that a typo and it's ClearanceJobs?
its to bad the timing isnt quite right because we are about to post a job for a facilities/property guy in our branch
Quote from: ice grillin you on January 11, 2012, 03:38:26 PM
its to bad the timing isnt quite right because we are about to post a job for a facilities/property guy in our branch
That's assuming they want the position filled prior to my availability. As it stands right now, I separate on Apr 24. Ideally, I'd like to start a new job around June 1 so that I have plenty of time to get settled into where ever the hell I'm moving to while also enjoying a little time off for myself but I'd make myself available as early as May 15th if need be. I have almost 50 vacation days saved up that I could use starting around March 10th, so technically I could start a new job as early as maybe April 1st. But I think I'm going to work until the 24th and sell back my unused leave days for nearly 2 months worth of pay. They tax the crap out of it, but whatever. I'd prefer to put as much money in the bank as possible in case the jobs aren't there right away.
ill send you the link when it posts
I can't wait to carpool to work with you. Then I'll be able to check off #3 on my bucket list.
We've got some stuff for logistics....shoot me an updated resume. If you have a clearance make sure it is noted towards the top.
It is Clearancejobs.com.....sorry.
Will do.
I'm guessing that clearancejobs.com are all jobs that require some level of security clearance? I don't carry any clearance right now, as there is no current need. But I did recently have my screening updated and remain eligible for a certain level that I'll not comment on here.
I'd check with your S2. A lot of times you will have one and not know it. They generally keep them active, because when you need one, it's already too late as it can take up to a year to get a Secret one through the process. Also, if you have any kind of hook-up in the S-2, now is the time to use it. If you don't have one but can get one it's a game changer. Can't emphasize that enough.
IGY, where do you work? I'm looking to move on potentially. Work in the DC area - Alexandria currently. Have clearance, etc., and do project management currently.
nlrb - 14th and L
clearance really isnt an issue at my work...its whatever the minimum is i think....its basically a law firm
the job is gonna post as an 11/12
Anyone here work for Accenture or any company that Accenture has purchased?
Anyone work in insurance software or use enterprise level insurance software?
Zanshin is your only hope.
Is he the only gainfully employed person who frequents this site? Actually, he might be. farging gthistle.
speaking of Accenture
Ive been using the code ACC when booking Marriott hotels for 6+ years and it works like a charm. $60-$100 off the cost of rooms. Nobody has ever said a word to me when I check in. Peep it if youre a traveler and marriott member.
Nice. I mean Marriott is for peasants, but good tip regardless.
Id love to hear why marriott is for peasants...this ought to be good.
Starwood. Boom.
I "worked" with a bunch of Accenture people for years, before I got blue collar religion and picked up a shovel.
But we didn't have shtein to do with insurance and as you can probably guess, I don't have anything useful to contribute.
The truth is that there is little reason for me to switch employers as I would literally be doing the same thing for more or less the same compensation, but I'm bored and I hate my clients and I keep trying to convince myself that I don't need to go back to school to stop hating my career while still being able to pay my mortgage. Ugh.
But seriously, Starwood. Boom.
Do not go to work for Accenture.
I've worked with some folks from Accenture, and they seemed pretty tightly wound. It wouldn't be the place I'd look to make a change for the betterment of quality of life. But, like most things, it depends on the people and the situation. I seriously considered making a switch to Novartis a couple of months ago, but didn't for a few reasons...and now they're laying off another 1500 that the position might have been part of.
That said, I still don't like my current situation, other than the whole supporting my family thing, which I do enjoy.
So, since I clearly do not have it all figured out, feel free to ignore anything I say that you don't like. But when you figure it all out, please let me know.
Z, don't worry about it. I figured it all out. I just have to win the lotto. And I have to remember to give you half.
I've been waiting patiently for my check.
Where Z says "tightly-wound" I would say "stressed to the point of burn-out." From my perspective, it looked like a machine that chewed people up. The ones who I worked with were mostly competent and some of them were actually talented, but none of them seemed even remotely happy. Lots of bags under eyes and tired-of-travelling/working 70 hour week faces.
Agreed.
Awesome.
If I'm going to travel that much and work that hard, it's to build something I've created. I've pretty much come to the conclusion that you have to either give up on money or start your own business to truly take control. I might do some of both.
I want to do neither. In fact what I want to do is quit this farging rat race. Being a responsible adult with a mortgage is like a goddamned jail sentence.
its a hard world to catch a break in.....all the good things have been taken....
Hip hop quotesSong* lyrics aside, that's not my problem. I've caught just about every break a guy can catch. My life is pretty amazing, actually. And I do really like my house. It's just the nature of things now. A mortgage, student loans, car payments... we live in an economy predicated on perpetual debt which locks us into a certain range of salary that we have to make to maintain the ability to pay. It's remarkably limiting. If I want to quit my soul sucking job and start at the bottom somewhere or go back to school I am only in a position to incur more debt. And my mortgage is totally reasonable, not a bank-breaker at all (yay Richmond). I could probably make it work even at a significantly lower salary but the stress and bullshtein would simply be coming from a different angle. Instead of originating from my job, it would originate from my finances. I can't imagine being someone who has a massive mortgage and can't stand their rat-race job. Totally, absolutely locked in. No escape. Anyway, farg adulthood.
*I actually have no idea if those are hip hop lyrics. Just made an assumption...
i'm doing a series of subway stations in Pittsburgh and the last one downtown, the centerpiece of the project is supposed to be finished by late March. that should be fine except for the contractor finally released me to order a product with a 6-8 week lead time. So, it might get there in time, it might not. Top that off with there is a non-movable opening ceremony in which the Vice President is going to attend.
So, between now and the end of the March I will be having sleepless nights and an ulcer. Yay!
Quote from: rjs246 on January 17, 2012, 10:24:09 AM
*I actually have no idea if those are hip hop lyrics. Just made an assumption...
its actually the animals
Quote from: SunMo on January 17, 2012, 10:30:50 AM
i'm doing a series of subway stations in Pittsburgh and the last one downtown, the centerpiece of the project is supposed to be finished by late March. that should be fine except for the contractor finally released me to order a product with a 6-8 week lead time. So, it might get there in time, it might not. Top that off with there is a non-movable opening ceremony in which the Vice President is going to attend.
So, between now and the end of the March I will be having sleepless nights and an ulcer. Yay!
Why stress? I understand you take your job seriously and more than likely do it well, but you've done what you can.
I love my job, but I got busted earlier this morning...Last Friday, I had a morning meeting in NYC, followed by a quick lunch meeting, followed by what I looked forward to as a short day, leading into a 3 day weekend. So, I told my manager that after the two meetings, I was meeting with "made up company 1" at 2 and "made up company 2" at 4, so I could just turn my phone off and get home by mid-day.
I got called on it this morning - worst part is, I was asked how each meeting went, bullshtein about each for a few minutes, then he dropped the hammer on me that he knew all along...talk about feeling like shtein.
Oh...SNAP!
How did it end or how did it leave off? Is your manager cool with you or was it a true ass reaming?
Quote from: Tomahawk on January 17, 2012, 12:47:46 PM
Quote from: SunMo on January 17, 2012, 10:30:50 AM
i'm doing a series of subway stations in Pittsburgh and the last one downtown, the centerpiece of the project is supposed to be finished by late March. that should be fine except for the contractor finally released me to order a product with a 6-8 week lead time. So, it might get there in time, it might not. Top that off with there is a non-movable opening ceremony in which the Vice President is going to attend.
So, between now and the end of the March I will be having sleepless nights and an ulcer. Yay!
Why stress? I understand you take your job seriously and more than likely do it well, but you've done what you can.
because it's one of the situations where it doesn't matter who's fault or what happened, that shtein needs to be done or heads will roll
As someone who has had stress from owning my own business and making great money to working for the man and making almost none, I can say without a moment's hesitation that the former owns the latter like you wouldn't believe.
I don't care how bad your work life is... if you're making a ton of dough, stick it out. It's better than the alternative.
well that's the next point i will bring up. if i was doing just my job as a project manager I am probably $10k underpaid annually. I make good money, but not industry standard from the research I've done. Combine that with the fact that over the past 6 months I've been given additional responsibilities that are above and beyond and my pay hasn't gone up at all. that will have to change soon.
I would demand additional pay simply due to the fact that your job seems to require at least semi-regular trips to Pittsburgh.
And that's probably been my biggest beef with the military....I get a bunch of additional jobs and responsibilities thrown at me but no pay compensation for the extra work. Farging bullshtein.
Quote from: SunMo on January 17, 2012, 01:47:27 PMthat will have to change soon.
who do you think you are? keep talking like that and you'll be branded a malcontent and moved out
well after march that should thankfully be done.
of course it means my trips to blacksburg, va pick up, so not sure that's a better thing
Quote from: Diomedes on January 17, 2012, 01:53:07 PM
Quote from: SunMo on January 17, 2012, 01:47:27 PMthat will have to change soon.
who do you think you are? keep talking like that and you'll be branded a malcontent and moved out
i'm a shooting star, son. my owner tells me continuously that he wishes he had 10 of me.
all owners wish they had ten people who got paid 60% of what they're worth.
no owners want people who get paid 100% of what they are worth.
How did it end or how did it leave off? Is your manager cool with you or was it a true ass reaming?
Little bit of both - he made it real clear to me that I farged up, but at the same time told me we will keep it between us, nothing will be done - basically, don't even try to think about doing it again....which was funny because he admitted to me that he has done the same thing on more than a few occassions throughout his career.
I hadn't had that kind of sinking feeling in my stomach since an old college gf called me out for cheating on her. The feeling of knowing they know, but the stupid thought that if I stick to my story strong enough, I'll be able to get away with it.
He handled it exactly the right way. If I were your boss I would have chewed you out for not inviting me.
Quote from: SunMo on January 17, 2012, 10:30:50 AM
i'm doing a series of subway stations in Pittsburgh and the last one downtown, the centerpiece of the project is supposed to be finished by late March. that should be fine except for the contractor finally released me to order a product with a 6-8 week lead time. So, it might get there in time, it might not. Top that off with there is a non-movable opening ceremony in which the Vice President is going to attend.
So, between now and the end of the March I will be having sleepless nights and an ulcer. Yay!
Is the 6-8 weeks from the day they get the order? Are they the only contractor that can provide the product?
Quote from: SunMo on January 17, 2012, 01:53:55 PM
Quote from: Diomedes on January 17, 2012, 01:53:07 PM
Quote from: SunMo on January 17, 2012, 01:47:27 PMthat will have to change soon.
who do you think you are? keep talking like that and you'll be branded a malcontent and moved out
i'm a shooting star, son. my owner tells me continuously that he wishes he had 10 of me.
He's your dad, right?
You're not getting a raise.
no, my dad is the president, the owner is an asian gentleman
That little vignette makes me cringe, DH. You're lucky to still have work.
Quote from: SunMo on January 17, 2012, 02:07:37 PM
no, my dad is the president, the owner is an asian gentleman
I suddenly care much much less about your troubles. F'n richie rich.
Quote from: Diomedes on January 17, 2012, 02:09:57 PM
Quote from: SunMo on January 17, 2012, 02:07:37 PM
no, my dad is the president, the owner is an asian gentleman
I suddenly care much much less about your troubles. F'n richie rich.
LOL.
Quote from: DH on January 17, 2012, 02:00:34 PM
How did it end or how did it leave off? Is your manager cool with you or was it a true ass reaming?
Little bit of both - he made it real clear to me that I farged up, but at the same time told me we will keep it between us, nothing will be done - basically, don't even try to think about doing it again....which was funny because he admitted to me that he has done the same thing on more than a few occassions throughout his career.
I hadn't had that kind of sinking feeling in my stomach since an old college gf called me out for cheating on her. The feeling of knowing they know, but the stupid thought that if I stick to my story strong enough, I'll be able to get away with it.
You sound like a poker player. Good to hear you're still employed.
That little vignette makes me cringe, DH. You're lucky to still have work.
I just reread it and I cringed again - it was a horrible feeling.
I fully deserved getting my shtein handed to me, and truthfully, I know of one old boss for certain who would have fired me for it.
You sound like a poker player. Good to hear you're still employed.
Worse, a recovering gambling addict
Well, sounds like that one ended as well as it could have, all things considered.
Quote from: DH on January 17, 2012, 02:46:07 PM
You sound like a poker player. Good to hear you're still employed.
Worse, a recovering gambling addict
Hoo boy.
DH should now start an "I love my job!" thread?
lol @ recovering.
i'll bet you 100 bucks that never happens, dh...
odds?
:-D
Has anybody done the Clifton StrengthsFinder®? The choices can be stupid and often too similar, but the results are somehow amazingly accurate.
Nope. Sounds like a fancy fortune teller. Amirite?
Quote from: Diomedes on January 17, 2012, 08:43:02 PM
Nope. Sounds like a fancy fortune teller. Amirite?
Not really...it reports what they call your Top 5 Strengths which are more like your dominant personality traits.
Same difference. F them.
I'm the type they all wish they were.
so ive got a ethics question for everyone
i get information from 2 sources that Mr. Coach is being moved from school A to school B. this would be massive news for my little side of the world.
i call Mr. Coach, who has been a terrific source for me and always upfront and honest, and he tells me its not true. categorical denial. granted, hes drunk, as he is every night by 800, but a full on denial i havent heard anything its not true.
my sources double down on what they heard, i again call said coach, and he again goes on about how its not true, among other drunken ramblings.
so, with nothing on the record and a denial from the person involved, i let it be. its just a rumor, nothing official, nothing even sourced. nothing i can do for now.
i know one of the tv guys is getting the same type of info as me. i choose not to write about rumors that might or might not be true. he leads off his newscast with it, reiterating that its a rumor, but explaining the rumor and giving the coach's denial.
so what you would guys want to see in this spot...do you want to hear about every single rumor that gets thrown out there, true or not true. or do you want to just wait until something concrete comes out and get that. because said rumor could very well be total bullshtein. or it could be something that its in the works. no one knows. thats the thing.
Write that Mr. Coach is being moved from school A to school B because he drinks to much and likes to dress up like a chick.
:-D that would be awesome funny Todd, do it.
A tough position to be in - but I think you've got to play the game.
I'd write about it but make it iron-clad that it's not been confirmed. I'd say that two sources close to the situation have passed this information on. Then perhaps you can say that a source within the district or school has denied the reports.
In the twitter/know right away age you have to be out front. It's not like you're throwing shtein against the wall - you have two independent sources telling you this. The drunkard may be sworn to secrecy in order to protect his job.
How solid are your two original sources?
It's all in the game, son.
very much so
but i 100% believe the coach in this that he hasnt been told shtein
also i cant really use anonymous sources, so me saying sources said this sources said that isnt really possible. its more of do you guys want to hear possibly made up things or not. and if a reporter throws enough made up rumors at what point do you start discounting everything he says, even if hes upfront that its a rumor.
ESPN does that bullshtein all the time.
If journalistic integrity counts for anything...wait for concrete evidence. If the margins have now been blurred and concrete equals two solid sources...then...go with it as long as it does not affect your reputation. This is one of those fields where reputation counts for everything. At least it seems like it.
Quote from: MDS on January 20, 2012, 12:33:00 AM
very much so
but i 100% believe the coach in this that he hasnt been told shtein
also i cant really use anonymous sources, so me saying sources said this sources said that isnt really possible. its more of do you guys want to hear possibly made up things or not. and if a reporter throws enough made up rumors at what point do you start discounting everything he says, even if hes upfront that its a rumor.
Call the AD and have him go on record - even if its a no comment.
If you have a blog - where things are a bit more informal rather than going with a story - perhaps you can say you've been tipped off about a major shake-up and you're working to get someone on the record to confirm or deny.
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on January 20, 2012, 12:23:05 AM
In the twitter/know right away age you have to be out front. It's not like you're throwing shtein against the wall - you have two independent sources telling you this.
How true! Did the TV guy run with the story? You said "being moved". Is this something that he has no say in? The national sports anchors constantly use the "according to sources" but I realize you are obviously communicating to a smaller, captive audience where sports is a huge part of their world and the impact something like this might have is huge. If this coach has been a wealth of information and you think writing about it would jeopardize your relationship with him let it break on it's own. I don't know squat about journalism or the pressure you are under to break stories but I would hold off.
without getting too bogged down in background of the situation here, the rumor is hes a successful coach essentially going from a terrible situation to a much better one. so its something hes told me hed be up for, its just not happening yet and might not even happen.
since everything came down after hours, i couldnt really get anything from school officials. the AD, by the way, is powerless. this school district is especially farged up where principals control their schools, answer to the human resources director and where the school board is full of incompetent loons.
id rather just stick to the facts of what is true. right now the coach has not been told anything so its something that has to be let be.
this will likely sound very white to you but...do not report it until you have more than a rumor
doing otherwise would be lousy reportage and would likely hurt your relationship with the coach, who is a good source in his own right. do some more footwork to see if you can get hard news otherwise sit on it
Quote from: MDS on January 20, 2012, 12:04:40 AM
i get information from 2 sources
my sources double down on what they heard
so, with nothing on the record and a denial from the person involved, i let it be. its just a rumor, nothing official, nothing even sourced. nothing i can do for now.
so do you have sources or not
if you have multiple sources that you deem credible...and not just credible in that they have given you correct info in the past but credible about this particular information...like do they have a connection to the school district or somewhere where this info might eminate from...then there is nothing wrong with reporting it....
your job is not always to 100% verify or not verify something its about the method you used to obtain and vet the information....at some point you have to trust your methodology and go with it
^Listen to your big brother. Half of journalism these days is going with your instincts and reporting rumors. Hell PFT turned that into a million dollar website. Whether it's true or not is not what you're reporting, you're just putting the information out there and informing the reader there's a possibility this could happen according to your sources.
A totally uninteresting journalistic ethics question, one to which the ultimate resolution NO ONE actually cares about, just garnered over a page of responses.
This isn't a WikiLeaks level issue, mind you. This is high school football in south Texas. Die.
if coach a is about to be named next dc of the eagles, you have the obligation to break the story here first. farg everyone else.
Quote from: rjs246 on January 20, 2012, 08:41:29 AM
A totally uninteresting journalistic ethics question, one to which the ultimate resolution NO ONE actually cares about, just garnered over a page of responses.
This isn't a WikiLeaks level issue, mind you. This is high school football in south Texas. Die.
seeing someone who majored in journalism and is aspiring to be some sort of reporter seeking advice on something as basic as this is more fascinating than anything having to do with wikileaks
its more fscinating and pathetic hes asking CF for advice.
well he cant exactly ask his boss
Quote from: ice grillin you on January 20, 2012, 10:05:53 AM
Quote from: rjs246 on January 20, 2012, 08:41:29 AM
A totally uninteresting journalistic ethics question, one to which the ultimate resolution NO ONE actually cares about, just garnered over a page of responses.
This isn't a WikiLeaks level issue, mind you. This is high school football in south Texas. Die.
seeing someone who majored in journalism and is aspiring to be some sort of reporter seeking advice on something as basic as this is more fascinating than anything having to do with wikileaks
So, really, what is it like to walk around with your head shoved that far up your ass?
smells like victory
Quote from: reese125 on January 20, 2012, 10:11:39 AM
its more fscinating and pathetic hes asking CF for advice.
I'm a little hurt by that response.
Quote from: hbionic on January 20, 2012, 10:46:53 AM
Quote from: reese125 on January 20, 2012, 10:11:39 AM
its more fscinating and pathetic hes asking CF for advice.
I'm a little hurt by that response.
but the good kind of hurt, right?
Quote from: hbionic on January 20, 2012, 10:46:53 AM
Quote from: reese125 on January 20, 2012, 10:11:39 AM
its more fscinating and pathetic hes asking CF for advice.
I'm a little hurt by that response.
Why--have you been asking career advice here at Dear Cf?
its not really advice of what do i do. its more of what do you as general fat slobs want to see.
do you want every rumor that comes down the pipe and will you still trust me even if a number of said rumors turn out to be horseshtein. because rumors are just rumors. some are true, some are not.
or do you just want to hear what the facts and not concern yourself with watercooler chatter?
p.s. i should have conformation on this fairly soon. you know, a fact.
have you been drinking straight sonce last night?
i wish
Quote from: MDS on January 20, 2012, 01:10:56 PM
will you still trust me
I think we found the problem.
i got it confirmed and i was first
in my business thats a motherfarging win
Quote from: MDS on January 20, 2012, 03:14:57 PM
i got it confirmed and i was first
in my business thats a motherfarging win
No, the guy who led off the news with it was first. You are an also ran.
I hated my job too.
And I farging did something about it. I'm now officially a business owner. Same thing I've been doing, except now my long ass work days will be worth something. For too long I've been making other people a shtein ton of money. Something along the lines of I make $60k in profit for the company in a month and I see 8% or so of it. And on top of it, have to deal with slimy, completely inept douchebags trying to tell me what to do when they have no idea what they are talking about.
I was done with it and now when I make that kind of profit, it goes to my company, not lining some other person's pockets. I'm the majority owner, with a friend and co-worker coming on as my partner. :)
we officially launch 3/1 after I give my 2 weeks notice to my current job. But everything is already in place. Super excited.\
And yeah, I'm CEO, bitch.
What do you do...again?
If you're smart you already stole the clients from your current jobs contact information before you put your 2 weeks in.
Anyways good luck.
I do online advertising. So, for example, if you go onto cnn.com and you see a Bose banner ad on the side of the page, that was one of my clients. On your phone, when you go to a mobile site and see a banner ad....I Might have had it placed there.
After being in the biz for so long, this company could not make me sign an NDA or non-compete. I brought with me too many contacts and relationships. So any clients or contacts I have, I already had and don't need to take them from here :)
Thanks Mike. :D
Dear PG...
Stop putting NewsMax ads in my farging internet content.
Thanks in advance.
Rome
Can you stop Philly.com from playing videos when I open up an article? That would be swell.
Well done PG.
What's the o/u on how long before she turns Republican? I say three tax cycles after she starts to make good money, which will take a couple years so I'll peg it at 5 years and take the under.
Wow. Really Dio?
Quote from: Diomedes on January 29, 2012, 08:55:25 AM
Well done PG.
What's the o/u on how long before she turns Republican? I say three tax cycles after she starts to make good money, which will take a couple years so I'll peg it at 5 years and take the under.
lol
Quote from: SD on January 29, 2012, 08:33:03 AM
Can you stop Philly.com from playing videos when I open up an article? That would be swell.
those are so farging annoying...especially when im at work listening to wip and trying to read the paper at the same time...double voices running rampant...sounds like three of charlie browns teachers called you at the same time
Yeah the Philly.com ads make me want to fight whoever put them there.
Good luck, PG. :yay
Ok, so I've taken a couple of resume writing classes in the past and I've updated my resume over the years as I've aquired new skills, responsibilities, etc so I think it's a pretty solid resume. Then last week I took a class on gaining federal employment (specifically applying on USA Jobs) and the instructor said that we should get rid of all the bullet points on our resume and write paragraphs about our experience and expertise. Said that a quality resume for federal employment should be at least 5 pages long. I know a few of you have fed jobs....any truth to this?
Wow. That's the complete opposite of the private sector. I had a hard time getting mine down to 2 pages, but anything more than that is frowned upon in general for most jobs.
mine is all bullet points....but i havent applied for a govt job since the emphasis has gone away from KSA's and perhaps in the absence of those they want resumes in more essay form now as opposed to bullets
ill ask my supervisor this afternoon what he thinks
Quote from: Sgt PSN on February 01, 2012, 01:18:57 PM
Ok, so I've taken a couple of resume writing classes in the past and I've updated my resume over the years as I've aquired new skills, responsibilities, etc so I think it's a pretty solid resume. Then last week I took a class on gaining federal employment (specifically applying on USA Jobs) and the instructor said that we should get rid of all the bullet points on our resume and write paragraphs about our experience and expertise. Said that a quality resume for federal employment should be at least 5 pages long. I know a few of you have fed jobs....any truth to this?
Yes...this is correct. Ditch the bullet points and write paragraphs. My federal resume is 6-8 pages long. Remember to tell your story, don't just write mundane details about what you did. I spent 10 hours writing my federal resume and got call backs from all 8 jobs I applied for.
Good guideline to use: http://www.taonline.com/ticpages/ticfederal.asp#Veterans_preference
They still use KSA's
You can contact a counselor who assists veterans with finding federal employment...they'll go over your resume too. The guy who helped me even called the VA to see if I was hired. I can't access my email from this computer but when I get home I'll shoot you a pm with his email address.
Quote from: Zanshin on February 01, 2012, 01:31:04 PM
Wow. That's the complete opposite of the private sector. I had a hard time getting mine down to 2 pages, but anything more than that is frowned upon in general for most jobs.
Yeah, my "civilian" resume was difficult to start writing because it's pretty damn hard cramming 15+ years of experience into less than 2 full pages. But I've been conditioned over the years to do that because everything I've been told says that's the way they want it in the civilian world. Now I'm finding it equally difficult to take my bullet points and expand them into full paragraphs. I've got 2 full pages just on my most recent duty assignment and I was being frugal with my wording just to keep it to 2 pages. I want to cover at least my 3 most recent duty assignments and if I start getting a little too wordy, I'll be upwards of 10 pages before I know it....and that would probably be bad.
Here's another question for fed employees.....
I'm looking at multiple job postings on USA Jobs, but the one I'm most interested in has this under qualifications:
QuoteApplicants must possess at least one year of specialized experience equivalent to the GS-11 grade level that equipped the applicant with the particular knowledge, skills, and abilities to perform successfully the duties of a ......
The job I currently hold is probably on par with a GS-9. However, when looking at the duties and responsibilities of the job, I've not only done what they require but I've actually done more. Is this something I should worry about or should I just submit an application anyway?
Quoteexperience equivalent to
You're probably okay just submitting it.
Big Brother, can we add 'CEO Bitch' to PG's avatar?
GOOD LUCK PG...farg that, you don't need it....you already smart enough to break away. I'm proud of you and wish you nothing but prosperity and success.
Three cheers for CEO Bitch! ;)
The important thing to remember with resumes is that you want the most pertinent shtein up front. Forget about how long it is. If I see what I need in the first page, I might look at the rest. If it's in the back somewhere, it's getting tossed. I'd also suggest having different resumes writing for different positions. Sounds like a lot, but it can really make a difference.
Quote from: Sgt PSN on February 01, 2012, 02:17:09 PM
Here's another question for fed employees.....
I'm looking at multiple job postings on USA Jobs, but the one I'm most interested in has this under qualifications:
QuoteApplicants must possess at least one year of specialized experience equivalent to the GS-11 grade level that equipped the applicant with the particular knowledge, skills, and abilities to perform successfully the duties of a ......
The job I currently hold is probably on par with a GS-9. However, when looking at the duties and responsibilities of the job, I've not only done what they require but I've actually done more. Is this something I should worry about or should I just submit an application anyway?
I can tell you from experience, when you say on par with a GS-9, you are undervaluing you experience. You're a SNCO in the Marine Corps, which easily puts you into 12-13 territory in a similar field. If you feel qualified for the position, apply for it. Let them sort it out. A lot of employers will put things in like "10 years experience, college degree, specialized certification, etc., required" when really they may only need one or two of those things.
Quote from: SD on February 01, 2012, 01:48:40 PM
Quote from: Sgt PSN on February 01, 2012, 01:18:57 PM
Ok, so I've taken a couple of resume writing classes in the past and I've updated my resume over the years as I've aquired new skills, responsibilities, etc so I think it's a pretty solid resume. Then last week I took a class on gaining federal employment (specifically applying on USA Jobs) and the instructor said that we should get rid of all the bullet points on our resume and write paragraphs about our experience and expertise. Said that a quality resume for federal employment should be at least 5 pages long. I know a few of you have fed jobs....any truth to this?
Yes...this is correct. Ditch the bullet points and write paragraphs. My federal resume is 6-8 pages long. Remember to tell your story, don't just write mundane details about what you did. I spent 10 hours writing my federal resume and got call backs from all 8 jobs I applied for.
that must be a DOD thing...because KSA's are essentially gone everywhere else...what they have now are "occupational assesment" questions
and i just talked to my boss and he said he damn sure doesnt wanna see 6-8 pages of paragraphs about someone...he would prefer bullets...
on usajobs sarge there should be a resume builder type thing where you input the info and it builds the resume for you...then you save it and fire it off whenever you see a position you wanna try for
from what sd is describing it sounds like you may need to do two resumes...one for when applying for DOD positions and one for all others
Quote from: Zanshin on February 01, 2012, 01:31:04 PM
Wow. That's the complete opposite of the private sector. I had a hard time getting mine down to 2 pages, but anything more than that is frowned upon in general for most jobs.
THIS xINFINITY
Quote from: PhillyPhanInDC on February 01, 2012, 03:09:50 PM
The important thing to remember with resumes is that you want the most pertinent shtein up front. Forget about how long it is. If I see what I need in the first page, I might look at the rest. If it's in the back somewhere, it's getting tossed. I'd also suggest having different resumes writing for different positions. Sounds like a lot, but it can really make a difference.
Quote from: Sgt PSN on February 01, 2012, 02:17:09 PM
Here's another question for fed employees.....
I'm looking at multiple job postings on USA Jobs, but the one I'm most interested in has this under qualifications:
QuoteApplicants must possess at least one year of specialized experience equivalent to the GS-11 grade level that equipped the applicant with the particular knowledge, skills, and abilities to perform successfully the duties of a ......
The job I currently hold is probably on par with a GS-9. However, when looking at the duties and responsibilities of the job, I've not only done what they require but I've actually done more. Is this something I should worry about or should I just submit an application anyway?
I can tell you from experience, when you say on par with a GS-9, you are undervaluing you experience. You're a SNCO in the Marine Corps, which easily puts you into 12-13 territory in a similar field. If you feel qualified for the position, apply for it. Let them sort it out. A lot of employers will put things in like "10 years experience, college degree, specialized certification, etc., required" when really they may only need one or two of those things.
Wow, I'm kind of surprised by this. Guess I was getting caught up in the payscale comparisons and figured that a GS worker making roughly the same amount of money as me would have roughly the same work load and level of responsibility. Now that I think about it though, I see some serious fault in making that comparison. Seems like civilians get paid more and do less work in the process.
Quote from: Sgt PSN on February 01, 2012, 04:05:51 PM
Seems like civilians get paid more and do less work in the process.
Um... DUH.
Quote from: Sgt PSN on February 01, 2012, 04:05:51 PM
Quote from: PhillyPhanInDC on February 01, 2012, 03:09:50 PM
The important thing to remember with resumes is that you want the most pertinent shtein up front. Forget about how long it is. If I see what I need in the first page, I might look at the rest. If it's in the back somewhere, it's getting tossed. I'd also suggest having different resumes writing for different positions. Sounds like a lot, but it can really make a difference.
Quote from: Sgt PSN on February 01, 2012, 02:17:09 PM
Here's another question for fed employees.....
I'm looking at multiple job postings on USA Jobs, but the one I'm most interested in has this under qualifications:
QuoteApplicants must possess at least one year of specialized experience equivalent to the GS-11 grade level that equipped the applicant with the particular knowledge, skills, and abilities to perform successfully the duties of a ......
The job I currently hold is probably on par with a GS-9. However, when looking at the duties and responsibilities of the job, I've not only done what they require but I've actually done more. Is this something I should worry about or should I just submit an application anyway?
I can tell you from experience, when you say on par with a GS-9, you are undervaluing you experience. You're a SNCO in the Marine Corps, which easily puts you into 12-13 territory in a similar field. If you feel qualified for the position, apply for it. Let them sort it out. A lot of employers will put things in like "10 years experience, college degree, specialized certification, etc., required" when really they may only need one or two of those things.
Wow, I'm kind of surprised by this. Guess I was getting caught up in the payscale comparisons and figured that a GS worker making roughly the same amount of money as me would have roughly the same work load and level of responsibility. Now that I think about it though, I see some serious fault in making that comparison. Seems like civilians get paid more and do less work in the process.
think of a private sector worker trying to get in the government...obviously they have no experience at any gs level so they have to be graded on their prior experience in the field they are applying for as opposed to time spent at a particular gs level
Quote from: PhillyPhanInDC on February 01, 2012, 03:09:50 PM
The important thing to remember with resumes is that you want the most pertinent shtein up front. Forget about how long it is. If I see what I need in the first page, I might look at the rest. If it's in the back somewhere, it's getting tossed. I'd also suggest having different resumes writing for different positions. Sounds like a lot, but it can really make a difference.
Quote from: Sgt PSN on February 01, 2012, 02:17:09 PM
Here's another question for fed employees.....
I'm looking at multiple job postings on USA Jobs, but the one I'm most interested in has this under qualifications:
QuoteApplicants must possess at least one year of specialized experience equivalent to the GS-11 grade level that equipped the applicant with the particular knowledge, skills, and abilities to perform successfully the duties of a ......
The job I currently hold is probably on par with a GS-9. However, when looking at the duties and responsibilities of the job, I've not only done what they require but I've actually done more. Is this something I should worry about or should I just submit an application anyway?
I can tell you from experience, when you say on par with a GS-9, you are undervaluing you experience. You're a SNCO in the Marine Corps, which easily puts you into 12-13 territory in a similar field. If you feel qualified for the position, apply for it. Let them sort it out. A lot of employers will put things in like "10 years experience, college degree, specialized certification, etc., required" when really they may only need one or two of those things.
He's the same rank as I was when I got out and I have a Bachelor's degree...I was only eligible to start out at a 7 but will make 9 in March once my one year probation period is up. You can't even apply for a 12-13 without 1 year as an 11.
Quote from: ice grillin you on February 01, 2012, 03:20:30 PM
Quote from: SD on February 01, 2012, 01:48:40 PM
Quote from: Sgt PSN on February 01, 2012, 01:18:57 PM
Ok, so I've taken a couple of resume writing classes in the past and I've updated my resume over the years as I've aquired new skills, responsibilities, etc so I think it's a pretty solid resume. Then last week I took a class on gaining federal employment (specifically applying on USA Jobs) and the instructor said that we should get rid of all the bullet points on our resume and write paragraphs about our experience and expertise. Said that a quality resume for federal employment should be at least 5 pages long. I know a few of you have fed jobs....any truth to this?
Yes...this is correct. Ditch the bullet points and write paragraphs. My federal resume is 6-8 pages long. Remember to tell your story, don't just write mundane details about what you did. I spent 10 hours writing my federal resume and got call backs from all 8 jobs I applied for.
that must be a DOD thing...because KSA's are essentially gone everywhere else...what they have now are "occupational assesment" questions
and i just talked to my boss and he said he damn sure doesnt wanna see 6-8 pages of paragraphs about someone...he would prefer bullets...
on usajobs sarge there should be a resume builder type thing where you input the info and it builds the resume for you...then you save it and fire it off whenever you see a position you wanna try for
from what sd is describing it sounds like you may need to do two resumes...one for when applying for DOD positions and one for all others
I don't work for the DOD, I work for the VA. They're completely different. I applied for 8 jobs (4 with the VA, 2 with the DOD, and 2 with GSA) and they all required the standard long ass resume and KSA's.
Quote from: SD on February 01, 2012, 06:07:43 PM
You can't even apply for a 12-13 without 1 year as an 11.
this isnt true for most government jobs now
nor is this...
Quote from: SD on February 01, 2012, 06:10:04 PM
they all required the standard long ass resume and KSA's.
heres an example of what has replaced the old ksa's from a GSA job posting...its basically a bunch of multiple choice questions
https://jobs.mgsapps.monster.com/gsa/vacancy/previewVacancyQuestions.hms?orgId=1&jnum=71030
Quote from: hbionic on February 01, 2012, 02:53:52 PM
Big Brother, can we add 'CEO Bitch' to PG's avatar?
GOOD LUCK PG...farg that, you don't need it....you already smart enough to break away. I'm proud of you and wish you nothing but prosperity and success.
Three cheers for CEO Bitch! ;)
Thanks bionic. I'm super excited. And many thanks to the really (yes, really) talented Mussa. He made a KICKASS company logo for us. :)
Quote from: ice grillin you on February 01, 2012, 07:03:22 PM
Quote from: SD on February 01, 2012, 06:07:43 PM
You can't even apply for a 12-13 without 1 year as an 11.
this isnt true for most government jobs now
nor is this...
Quote from: SD on February 01, 2012, 06:10:04 PM
they all required the standard long ass resume and KSA's.
heres an example of what has replaced the old ksa's from a GSA job posting...its basically a bunch of multiple choice questions
https://jobs.mgsapps.monster.com/gsa/vacancy/previewVacancyQuestions.hms?orgId=1&jnum=71030
I applied for two 11 jobs and both turned me down because I didn't have time as a 9 or 10 in the field I was applying for. I did have similar skills from my time in the Navy and it still wasn't enough. I work with retired military officers who are pay grades below me. Don't overestimate military experience, it's good for gov't jobs and whatnot but they're not just going to hand someone an 11/12/13 because they were in the military. I supervised 23 people while I was in the Navy and had leadership school to boot but unless you have expertise in the field you're applying for it means shtein.
I just went through this process 1 year ago. And yes, they do ask the 100 questions and take the top scores to see who they want to interview...they also use KSA's for some positions as well. My girl just applied for a 10 position and she had to submit KSA's.
Your girl?
Haven't you been down this road before?
A million times. Been with this one since October. She hasn't showed any psycho tendencies...yet. Her kid is only a year younger than mine, she doesn't get mad when I don't feel like seeing her, and she's not overly sensitive about bullshtein. I can only take so much.
Get your sister something nice as well as something you'd like so she can re-gift it to you for your wedding present
I just got diognosed with sleep apnea. The obvious down side is I have to get a CPAP mask (MOCK!). The positive is that sleep apnea alone is a 50% disability rating from the VA. I was already looking at 40-50% disability to begin with so I'm thinking that all together I should be looking at about 70% total, which will make my disability income just a couple hundred bucks less per month than what my retirement pension would be if I were able to reenlist and stay in to hit 20 years of service.
So it looks like I'll get similar financial compensation for my service and won't have to put up with the same day to day bullshtein for the next 3 years. Choke on that Uncle Sam.
Only fat people have sleep apnea, Sgt Reid
farging sleep apnea gets a 50% disability rating? Give me a goddamned break.
I said you could mock, not hate. Hater.
Quote from: rjs246 on February 17, 2012, 01:56:49 PM
farging sleep apnea gets a 50% disability rating? Give me a goddamned break.
Not always...and as far as your rating goes remember it's not the total of the %'s they grant you, here's how they explain it on our index:
QuoteCombined Evaluation Calculated (Mandatory)
We don't add your individual disability percentages to determine your combined percentage. We use a table from our regulations. This table is based on the "whole person theory." This means that an individual with no disabilities is 100 percent able. The table reduces this total ability by the percentage of your most disabling or highest rated condition, then by the next, and the next, etc. Let me give you an example:
Let's say you have a 70% disability and a separate 10% disability. We first consider your 70% disability because it is the highest rated condition. For VA purposes, you are then considered 30% healthy. Then we include your 10% disability by calculating 10% of 30%, which is 3% (10% of 30 is 3). We then add 70 and 3, which is 73% and round down to 70%.
If your second disability were 20% instead of 10%, we would add 6% (20% of 30 is 6). We would then add 70 and 6, which is 76% and round up to 80%.
Remember, tinitus is an automatic 10%.
According to the table from my regulations that shtein is 100% retarded.
Untreated sleep apnea sounds like a disability. The treatment (CPAP) is easy and relatively inexpensive...and it totally mitigates the problem (and the disability).
Quote from: Susquehanna Birder on February 19, 2012, 04:42:35 PM
Untreated sleep apnea sounds like a disability. The treatment (CPAP) is easy and relatively inexpensive...and it totally mitigates the problem (and the disability).
True as this may be, the "disability" is having the machine/mask in the first place.
It's also a joke if that's the case.
The joke is your tax dollars going into my wallet.
Quote from: Sgt PSN on March 02, 2012, 09:24:28 PM
I have no doubt that my mostly unfounded Jersey hating is going to end with me ultimately finding a job in and moving to the Garden State. Maybe I should have been hating on Hawaii all these years instead. On the other hand, good thing I haven't been bad mouthing Alabama
I should be a farging profit.
Update on the job front: The Marine Corps has seriously been yanking my chain over the last year. First I was going to San Diego, then I was denied reenlistment and told I have to separate. Then last week I found out that I am being granted reenlistment and that I would find out my next duty assignment today. I just got off the phone with my monitor (he's the guy who controls where everyone goes in my job field) and he told me that I'm going to McGwire AFB in New farging Jersey.
All in all, I'm excited about it. Going to get my 20 and retire after all and while I'm not thrilled about the idea of living so close to Trenton, the pros far outweigh the cons. Steady paycheck, retirement, close to Philly and I don't have to pump my own gas for the next 3 years. I'll take it. And I move in Sept so I'll be there just in time for football season. You bitches better have tix for me.
Hopefully there will be a nuclear war and we'll all die before September.
That's an acceptable alternative.
Quote from: Sgt PSN on March 19, 2012, 11:53:33 AM
Quote from: Sgt PSN on March 02, 2012, 09:24:28 PM
I have no doubt that my mostly unfounded Jersey hating is going to end with me ultimately finding a job in and moving to the Garden State. Maybe I should have been hating on Hawaii all these years instead. On the other hand, good thing I haven't been bad mouthing Alabama
I should be a farging profit.
Update on the job front: The Marine Corps has seriously been yanking my chain over the last year. First I was going to San Diego, then I was denied reenlistment and told I have to separate. Then last week I found out that I am being granted reenlistment and that I would find out my next duty assignment today. I just got off the phone with my monitor (he's the guy who controls where everyone goes in my job field) and he told me that I'm going to McGwire AFB in New farging Jersey.
All in all, I'm excited about it. Going to get my 20 and retire after all and while I'm not thrilled about the idea of living so close to Trenton, the pros far outweigh the cons. Steady paycheck, retirement, close to Philly and I don't have to pump my own gas for the next 3 years. I'll take it. And I move in Sept so I'll be there just in time for football season. You bitches better have tix for me.
Before rjs gets an erection I'll let you know first that you shouldn't be a "profit"-you should be a prophet
Thanks Hitler. I've got so much shtein going through my mind right now. I'm still a little jittery and amped from the dramatic turn. Really, over the last 2 years I've thought my career was ending. Once was for medical reasons and most recently because of manpower cutbacks. I need to calm myself down a bit until I swear in again, because until I do that then I really shouldn't be taking anything for granted.
And it's too late anyway. Erection formed and worked.
Like that wasn't going to happen anyway.
Quote from: Sgt PSN on March 19, 2012, 11:53:33 AM
Quote from: Sgt PSN on March 02, 2012, 09:24:28 PM
I have no doubt that my mostly unfounded Jersey hating is going to end with me ultimately finding a job in and moving to the Garden State. Maybe I should have been hating on Hawaii all these years instead. On the other hand, good thing I haven't been bad mouthing Alabama
I should be a farging profit.
Update on the job front: The Marine Corps has seriously been yanking my chain over the last year. First I was going to San Diego, then I was denied reenlistment and told I have to separate. Then last week I found out that I am being granted reenlistment and that I would find out my next duty assignment today. I just got off the phone with my monitor (he's the guy who controls where everyone goes in my job field) and he told me that I'm going to McGwire AFB in New farging Jersey.
All in all, I'm excited about it. Going to get my 20 and retire after all and while I'm not thrilled about the idea of living so close to Trenton, the pros far outweigh the cons. Steady paycheck, retirement, close to Philly and I don't have to pump my own gas for the next 3 years. I'll take it. And I move in Sept so I'll be there just in time for football season. You bitches better have tix for me.
Congrats. If it works out that way, it sounds like a great resolution. And you'll be close enough for the next swinger party.
I'm going to miss you and your gargantuan penis. :'(
You're coming with me bro. Spent much of the morning looking at properties online and it looks like there's plenty of listings in my price range that sit on 1+ acre of land and, well, that grass ain't gonna mow itself burrito boy.
What's the squaw going to be doing?
Laundry
Landry?
I guess if she gets a job with the Jets.
You never know unless you try.
http://www.newyorkjets.com/footer/careers.html
Sweet. She can be the next Jen Sterger.
Getting your 20 and retirement is huge. Good news.
Yeah, the only "downer" right now is that I've spent the last several months focusing on getting ready for civilian life that I've dedicated absolutely no time at all to maintaining any level of physical fitness. I'm not 28 anymore, can't go 3 or 4 months without working out and still be in shape. So yeah, I got the news on Thursday last week that I'll be reenlisting. I went for a run Thursday afternoon and wanted to die. Ran a 1.5 mile obstacle course on Friday and I think, for about 30 seconds, I actually did die. So back to the gym I go. Gotta put a lot of work in over the next couple of weeks to get myself back up to par.
All I read was wah wah wah. Just go get some exercise, fat boy.
Meh, I wouldn't worry about it. What are they gonna do, test you on it?
Have a burrito.
Or have another smoke? :paranoid
Don't forget the makers.
i worked my normal day yesterday of 8am to 6pm and then we had a project kickoff with our detailing shop in Manila from 6:30 to midnight. i definitely hated my job last night
My buddy works for some lobbying firm and last week they had "session", whatever the farg that is, and he was at work from 830am to 7am. I continuously make fun of him for wanting to work there the rest of his life.
Quote from: Sgt PSN on March 19, 2012, 08:30:13 PM
Quote from: Susquehanna Birder on March 19, 2012, 08:17:09 PM
Don't forget the makers.
Never.
Liar! There's three-quarters bottle full in my cabinet that you left from my B-day two years ago.
I just got some info about a department policy that may be the proverbial straw for me.
If what I think is about to happen I'll be gone and onto something else. This shtein, if it happens, will be awful on a biblical scale and I'm too fargin old to fight this fight anymore.
You should be more cryptic about it
Quote from: hbionic on March 20, 2012, 01:27:22 PM
Quote from: Sgt PSN on March 19, 2012, 08:30:13 PM
Quote from: Susquehanna Birder on March 19, 2012, 08:17:09 PM
Don't forget the makers.
Never.
Liar! There's three-quarters bottle full in my cabinet that you left from my B-day two years ago.
I probably had 2 more bottles at home waiting for me.
My job is starting to wear thin, I'm looking for alternatives. Was out last night with a girl I know from College and she said she can get me a job doing what she's doing. Same pay as what I'm making now but she works from home for the most part. Here's the company she works for:
http://www.rpsweb.com/
why the hell would you ever leave the government....its the greatest place ever
Quote from: ice grillin you on April 13, 2012, 10:55:57 AM
why the hell would you ever leave the government....its the greatest place ever
Maybe your job is, not mine. People only last a year or two where I'm at. They're up our ass with a microscope now.
Tell the truth.....shtein finally went south with one of your female coworkers, didn't it?
Quote from: SD on April 13, 2012, 12:23:58 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on April 13, 2012, 10:55:57 AM
why the hell would you ever leave the government....its the greatest place ever
Maybe your job is, not mine. People only last a year or two where I'm at. They're up our ass with a microscope now.
there are more govt jobs than just mine and yours....go get one of them...you already hold the golden ticket by being in the govt.....youd be crazy to give that up by leaving
granted you have military on your resume so it make sit easier to get back in than if i left but i still wouldnt do it
Quote from: Sgt PSN on April 13, 2012, 12:26:51 PM
Tell the truth.....shtein finally went south with one of your female coworkers, didn't it?
We're still good friends...no problem there.
Quote from: ice grillin you on April 13, 2012, 12:31:59 PM
Quote from: SD on April 13, 2012, 12:23:58 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on April 13, 2012, 10:55:57 AM
why the hell would you ever leave the government....its the greatest place ever
Maybe your job is, not mine. People only last a year or two where I'm at. They're up our ass with a microscope now.
there are more govt jobs than just mine and yours....go get one of them...you already hold the golden ticket by being in the govt.....youd be crazy to give that up by leaving
granted you have military on your resume so it make sit easier to get back in than if i left but i still wouldnt do it
I'm not leaving that option out of the equation. I just can't do what I'm doing much longer. I don't feel like going into detail but it's tedious and getting old. The point I'm at right now is that I'm the number 1 person out of 70 people as far as production and standards goes and I just got promoted to a 9, meaning I can't move up from this point. So there's no room to improve so what motivation do I have to maintain my production? I feel like I'm too smart for this job. Not trying to sound conceided but it's the truth and my co-workers agree. I originally took the first thing that came my way because I have a daughter to take care of, now that I'm in a decent situation I'd like to move on. Might throw a resume out there to something similar to what you're doing. I planned on doing that in March but circumstances beyond my control [moving, fighting over custody with baby's momma] put that pursuit on hold. Once April is up I'm back on the hunt.
I'm pretty sure you'd have to spell conceited correctly before you could actually be conceited, so don't sweat it. ;-). Should I be on the lookout for reference calls?
Oh, and while I'm in this thread...I still hate my job. As you were.
Quote from: SD on April 13, 2012, 12:46:40 PM
Quote from: Sgt PSN on April 13, 2012, 12:26:51 PM
Tell the truth.....shtein finally went south with one of your female coworkers, didn't it?
We're still good friends...no problem there.
Ok. Then something went south with one of your male coworkers, didn't it, semen?
Quote from: Zanshin on April 13, 2012, 12:50:42 PM
I'm pretty sure you'd have to spell conceited correctly before you could actually be conceited, so don't sweat it. ;-). Should I be on the lookout for reference calls?
haha...I'll let you know. Probably not going to take action on this for another few weeks.
Quote from: Sgt PSN on April 13, 2012, 12:52:05 PM
Quote from: SD on April 13, 2012, 12:46:40 PM
Quote from: Sgt PSN on April 13, 2012, 12:26:51 PM
Tell the truth.....shtein finally went south with one of your female coworkers, didn't it?
We're still good friends...no problem there.
Ok. Then something went south with one of your male coworkers, didn't it, semen?
To tell you the truth the only thing I would miss about this place is my co-workers. Great group of hardworking people working here with a nice variety of personalities.
Quote from: SD on April 13, 2012, 12:46:40 PM
I'm not leaving that option out of the equation. I just can't do what I'm doing much longer. I don't feel like going into detail but it's tedious and getting old. The point I'm at right now is that I'm the number 1 person out of 70 people as far as production and standards goes and I just got promoted to a 9, meaning I can't move up from this point. So there's no room to improve so what motivation do I have to maintain my production? I feel like I'm too smart for this job. Not trying to sound conceided but it's the truth and my co-workers agree. I originally took the first thing that came my way because I have a daughter to take care of, now that I'm in a decent situation I'd like to move on. Might throw a resume out there to something similar to what you're doing. I planned on doing that in March but circumstances beyond my control [moving, fighting over custody with baby's momma] put that pursuit on hold. Once April is up I'm back on the hunt.
to get a promotion now you have to do a year at a 9....no matter how much you hate it id put my year in then just start flooding resumes out and get your 11 with another agency or office
did you get a strong year end review?....thats the key to moving elsewhere....
if you decide to stay there another year and tough it out whatever you do no matter how much you hate it dont piss anyone off during that time that might effect the kind of review you get next year
or you can make a lateral move right away
I might do the lateral move. I was rated as exceptional in all phases during my last year end review. My bosses are great and I couldn't ask for better people to work for. They're not the problem and I wouldn't burn any bridges. They've already told me if I'd like to move somewhere else that I'd get a solid recommendation from them.
Quote from: SD on April 13, 2012, 01:10:27 PMI was rated as exceptional in all phases during my last year end review....
lol, f'n reviews. what torture. glad I left all that shtein behind
I'm at work for the 3rd straight weekend. Do you have any idea how pointless it is to have Logistics people working on the weekends? Everything we deal with is closed until Monday. So when people come in looking for support, we just tell them to come back on Monday. Pretty sure a sign on my door could do the same thing.
But yeah, I'm going to do this for 4 more years. Got myself completely back within regs and my CO signed off on my paperwork yesterday. So hopefully I'll be swearing back in by the end of next week.
I found a nice surprise on my paycheck stub this week. I had gotten a promotion a few months ago and it came with a 15% raise. Or so I thought. Turns out they were supposed to give me a 20% raise. The administrative manager was reviewing the budget and she noticed the mistake. They ended up giving me the back pay I should have gotten from that point on as well.
Yay me.
Quote from: Sgt PSN on April 14, 2012, 12:02:41 PM
I'm at work for the 3rd straight weekend. Do you have any idea how pointless it is to have Logistics people working on the weekends? Everything we deal with is closed until Monday. So when people come in looking for support, we just tell them to come back on Monday. Pretty sure a sign on my door could do the same thing.
But yeah, I'm going to do this for 4 more years. Got myself completely back within regs and my CO signed off on my paperwork yesterday. So hopefully I'll be swearing back in by the end of next week.
Good to have you back soldier.
:fire
Quote from: Rome on April 14, 2012, 07:57:54 PM
I found a nice surprise on my paycheck stub this week. I had gotten a promotion a few months ago and it came with a 15% raise. Or so I thought. Turns out they were supposed to give me a 20% raise. The administrative manager was reviewing the budget and she noticed the mistake. They ended up giving me the back pay I should have gotten from that point on as well.
Yay me.
How much was the back pay? So we can make the calculation of how much you make. Thanks.
5%
lol
So I've been a real, actual business owner for almost 3 months now. Been pretty awesome, for the most part. The cool novelty part of it has worn off and now we're dealing with the daily stresses of owning a business, but for the first time in my life, I'm 100% happy with my job and I'd much rather be dealing with these stresses than the stresses of a job where my boss was taking home 80% of my commissions.
Just wanted to update :)
My name is Samantha and I no longer hate my job.
Then get out of this thread, job lover.
Also, tomorrow is the last day on my contract and I'm still waiting for my reenlistment to get approved. It's at the last level of approval and I'm not worried about it getting denied, but holy farg, quit taking your sweet ass time and approve this shtein. I submitted the paperwork almost 2 weeks ago. Farging gov't workers busy farging off instead of doing their jobs.
PS....Me and a few guys from my office locked the doors at 9am on Friday and spent the day golfing.
Yeah, so 6 weeks ago the Marine Corps told me to submit for reenlistment and gave me orders to McGuire for Sept. Today they decided to go back to plan A and send me packing. Reenlisment denied because apparently I'm "not compatible with the needs of the Marine Corps." Gave me a 4 month extension to get my shtein ready. Wow. Just wow.
I'm running this shtein up the farging flagpole, starting with a letter to my Congressman.
Quote from: Sgt PSN on April 24, 2012, 05:24:46 PM
Yeah, so 6 weeks ago the Marine Corps told me to submit for reenlistment and gave me orders to McGuire for Sept. Today they decided to go back to plan A and send me packing. Reenlisment denied because apparently I'm "not compatible with the needs of the Marine Corps." Gave me a 4 month extension to get my shtein ready. Wow. Just wow.
I'm running this shtein up the farging flagpole, starting with a letter to my Congressman.
Motherfarger, I typed this long ass response, got a connection error and have to start over.
You'll have a new appreciation for life when you get away from all that bullshtein. When people would say to me "the grass ain't always greener on the other side" when I was contemplating getting out...they were dead wrong. It's a million times better.
Starting with your Congressman is a great idea. They get results for crap like this. We deal with Congressional bullshtein at my job and although 3/4 of the people who contact Congress don't need to [not to mention it clogs up the system] some of them get results. If the issue of why you were in trouble in the first place has been resolved they can't go back and farg you over again for it. What punishment did you receive?
When I was in deck we had a guy who submitted a chit to go to 'A' school every day until it was approved. The Divo told him not to submit it anymore and that he would keep on denying, but it's his right to submit one every day. Eventually he had a meeting with the Captain and 3 months later he was off to school. Persistence pays off. I'd resubmit your request to let them know you want to stay in.
Yeah, I'm working on an Adminstrative Action form right now. The thing that pisses me off most is this:
I was denied reenlistment in Sept because I had been passed twice for promotion. I was extended until April so I could get looked at again in Jan. I was passed again in Jan and was told in Feb to file for separation. Then in March I got an email from my monitor that said I was approved for continued service, but that I would be re-evaluated each year should I get passed for promotion again. So basically I was told to reenlist for 3 years but could potentially be forced out next year if I don't get promoted.
But it turns out that submitting my reenlistment again was just a "formality" that had to be done and it doesn't seem like there was ever any actual intent to keep me around long enough to make the move to NJ. So now I'm really pissed because it would have been nice if someone told me in March that it was still unlikely that I'd be retained. Had I known that, I probably wouldn't have turned down job interviews or set my resume to private on the job sites I posted one on.
And to add insult to injury here, on Apr 12 the gov't approved early retirement for people with at least 15 years of service. That sounds good.....I'll just do that. Oh, wait.....the criteria to be eligible for early retirement says that there has to be "viability for advancement." Guess that doesn't apply to someone who has been passed for promotion 3 times and denied reenlistment twice now.
Yeah, so the only difference between now and last Sept is that I'll be 1 year closer to retirement when I separate later this year. Thanks for dangling that carrot infront of me a little longer. Dicks.
They're farging with you. I'd let Congress know. The military pulls shtein like this and thinks they can get away with farging with peoples lives. "We'll show you". Regardless of the outcome be thankful you'll be done with all the bullshtein. I had some worries about working in the real world again but really it's one million times better than putting up with the Navy's bullshtein.
It's not one million times better when they drop your ass days before you qualify for lifetime retirement support. I'd raise holy hell, Sassy. You've served too long to be treated like that and the money is f'n important. You ought to be able to leave the service with some retirement security, for farg sake.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6TeTowu5gCg
thats farged up sarge, Raise hell man
Get after their asses, Sarge. That's a kick in the balls and I hope you're able to get it reversed.
Just do nothing. All of these other recommendations sound exhausting.
Give 'em hell, Sarge.
I'd rather give them aids.
I know that it's doesn't change the circumstances one way or another, but is it that it's just bureaucratic BS in which you happened to get caught up, or is someone actively farging with you?
So the latest thing here is the use of Microsoft Lync. It's kind of a marriage between LiveMeeting and AIM. You log onto your computer, and people can see that you're there, so they can IM you, as well as engage you in collaborative meetings with screen sharing and the like.
I don't mind the meetings if they're planned and scheduled, but there's no way in hell that I'm going to have random people pester me with IMs all day. It's just too intrusive, and I don't need the interruptions. I'm just fine with e-mail and phone calls, thank you. So I have my Lync status set to off-line as much as possible. People have asked me about it, but I usually change the subject.
We have something very similar called Office Communicator and I love it. whats the difference if you get an email and ignore it or get an IM and ignore it? It's great to just IM someone in Europe or California from my couch and get an immediate response.
Quote from: phattymatty on April 26, 2012, 11:45:11 AM
We have something very similar called Office Communicator and I love it. whats the difference if you get an email and ignore it or get an IM and ignore it? It's great to just IM someone in Europe or California from my couch and get an immediate response.
The blackberry app for office communicator is money.
We've used Lotus Sametime for years, and we're switching over to link. People have been expected to use it for a long time, but I do feel a little tethered to my computer. The upside, though, is fewer phone calls, which I do like.
Quote from: Susquehanna Birder on April 26, 2012, 11:34:29 AM
So the latest thing here is the use of Microsoft Lync. It's kind of a marriage between LiveMeeting and AIM. You log onto your computer, and people can see that you're there, so they can IM you, as well as engage you in collaborative meetings with screen sharing and the like.
I don't mind the meetings if they're planned and scheduled, but there's no way in hell that I'm going to have random people pester me with IMs all day. It's just too intrusive, and I don't need the interruptions. I'm just fine with e-mail and phone calls, thank you. So I have my Lync status set to off-line as much as possible. People have asked me about it, but I usually change the subject.
Agreed...I'd hate that too. Its bad enough that they put in a new phone system at my place where anyone in any office around the country can buzz in and intercom me.
so since none of you exist or count i can put this here
i will be having lunch on friday with some editors from the paper in mcallen. its about 45 minutes to the west of where i am now. bigger paper, different schools to cover (with some utpa hoops mixed in...yes they are for some reason d1) and more pay. but its the same company.
anyway, farg you
Good luck.
Movin on up to the deluxe apartment in the sky.
you should try to cover rice football...nd kalu is their color guy on their radio broadcasts, so that's kind of cool
Quote from: MDS on May 29, 2012, 10:53:11 PM
so since none of you exist or count i can put this here
i will be having lunch on friday with some editors from the paper in mcallen. its about 45 minutes to the west of where i am now. bigger paper, different schools to cover (with some utpa hoops mixed in...yes they are for some reason d1) and more pay. but its the same company.
anyway, farg you
Out of curiousity are you in Texas by choice or is that the only place you can find a job? Ever think about going away from the newspaper industry and into something similar?
Quote from: DH on May 30, 2012, 08:52:30 AM
you should try to cover rice football...nd kalu is their color guy on their radio broadcasts, so that's kind of cool
only if you get him to come to yom kippur break the fast dinner
Quote from: SD on May 30, 2012, 09:56:51 AMOut of curiousity are you in Texas by choice or is that the only place you can find a job? Ever think about going away from the newspaper industry and into something similar?
brownsville was the first job i hit on after getting out of school and i just said farg it and did it. for some reason i am still here 2 years later, but i guess its all worth it now because i might be getting a modest raise and moving 45 minutes west.
anyway, of course i think about leaving newspapers all the time, but i dont know what for. im not a 9-5 office guy, i already did that and it was awful. obviously the goal at some point is to work for a website, but i like doing the beat stuff (i.e. not column writing or feature reporting) and i do like doing high schools. you dont have to deal with press conferences or PR people breathing down your neck. its good. and in texas, its very fun.
with that said i am and jew and a whore, so if something came along that paid well i would take it.
I'm applying to be a cop in Bozeman, Montana. Why? Farg it, why not? Squaw is applying too since she already has like 8 years experience as a pig professional law enforcement officer.
Writen and physical testing is June 29th and interviews start up the following week so we're going to spend about 2.5 weeks up there. If nothing else, it should be an ok vacation and at least we'll get a good look at the town and will have a better idea if we'd actually like to live there.
Do you have a pair of mirror aviators already, or will they have to issue those? Either way, good luck.
Quote from: Sgt PSN on May 30, 2012, 05:01:42 PM
Writen and physical testing is June 29th...
Good luck with that.
OH NOEZ! Rome founded a typo.
Quote from: Sgt PSN on May 30, 2012, 05:01:42 PM
I'm applying to be a cop in Bozeman, Montana. Why? Farg it, why not? Squaw is applying too since she already has like 8 years experience as a pig professional law enforcement officer.
Writen and physical testing is June 29th and interviews start up the following week so we're going to spend about 2.5 weeks up there. If nothing else, it should be an ok vacation and at least we'll get a good look at the town and will have a better idea if we'd actually like to live there.
http://deadspin.com/tuesday-night-fights/
these are your peeps
I look forward to arresting them. Except the lone black dude. We're cool.
For the record though, I am applying for a lot of non-pig jobs in KC and in the north east corridor.
Bozeman is close to my kids though and it'd be cool to spend more time with them.
And later, be ashamed when you arrest them.
Quote from: DH on May 30, 2012, 08:52:30 AM
you should try to cover rice football...nd kalu is their color guy on their radio broadcasts, so that's kind of cool
Yeah he does local sports talk too - good radio guy.
And if Todd moved to Houston we could hang out and get drunk and curse the Phillies!
I can't imagine living in a place like Montana or North Dakota or Wyoming or anything vast and desolate like that. But that's probably due to growing up in an area less than 3 hours away from 4 metropolitan areas, beaches, and AC.
If you get there, make tons of babies and make them all vote Democrat, you'll probably sway it blue after the 6th kid or so.
texas is bad enough but im not sure if i could do a republican cesspool of a city
at least my amigos down here vote democrat
Quote from: Munson on May 30, 2012, 10:09:11 PM
I can't imagine living in a place like Montana or North Dakota or Wyoming or anything vast and desolate like that. But that's probably due to growing up in an area less than 3 hours away from 4 metropolitan areas, beaches, and AC.
If you get there, make tons of babies and make them all vote Democrat, you'll probably sway it blue after the 6th kid or so.
When I was in my early 20s I couldn't imagine it either. But now that I'm in my mid30s and don't really like people, Bozeman seems kind of cool. 40k in town, pretty big tourism industry in the summer, nothing but snowmobiling and skiing in the winter. And I hear that the town is surprisingly liberal. Not sure if that's in comparison to the rest of the state or if it's truly liberal, but I'll go check the place out and see what it's like.
There are very few truly liberal places in all of America. farging Bozeman is not one of them.
Quote from: Sgt PSN on May 30, 2012, 06:32:12 PM
OH NOEZ! Rome founded a typo.
Sorry, but when you are talking about taking a "writen" exam, the irony is way too thick to ignore.
Quote from: Diomedes on May 31, 2012, 06:13:32 AM
There are very few truly liberal places in all of America. farging Bozeman is not one of them.
its liberal in that its a college town...and for montana its probably berkely....but no in the true sense of the word its not liberal
Spent a lot of time in Bozeman, you two?
Quote from: Diomedes on May 31, 2012, 06:13:32 AM
There are very few truly liberal places in all of America. farging Bozeman is not one of them.
Yeah, I'm not expecting Berkley or anything, just hoping for some level headed people.
Quote from: rjs246 on June 01, 2012, 09:19:39 AM
Spent a lot of time in Bozeman, you two?
Solid chuckle achievement badge unlocked!
Quote from: rjs246 on June 01, 2012, 09:19:39 AM
Spent a lot of time in Bozeman, you two?
my girls fathers girls whole family is from montana and she actually graduated from montana state (bozeman)
but you dont need to have second hand knowledge of the state like i do to figure out what its like
So, what you're saying is that you actually have an informed opinion about Bozeman, Montana... but if you didn't have information about Bozeman, Montana; it wouldn't stop you from having an "informed" opinion about Bozeman, Montana?
Quote from: FastFreddie on June 01, 2012, 09:43:28 AM
So, what you're saying is that you actually have an informed opinion about Bozeman, Montana... but if you didn't have information about Bozeman, Montana; it wouldn't stop you from having an "informed" opinion about Bozeman, Montana?
Lol
Quote from: FastFreddie on June 01, 2012, 09:43:28 AM
So, what you're saying is that you actually have an informed opinion about Bozeman, Montana... but if you didn't have information about Bozeman, Montana; it wouldn't stop you from having an "informed" opinion about Bozeman, Montana?
precisely
its not exactly like trying to describe california
its effing montana for christ sake
its like gee i wonder what antartica is like?...have you ever been there?
It's very liberal. All science and no Jesus. The summers are a bit chilly though.
Don't forget its crowded with Eurotrash
And pit bulls.
the weather in montana is right in my wheelhouse...but other than that i cant think of a single thing about living there that wouldnt give me suicidal thoughts
Quote from: ice grillin you on June 01, 2012, 09:53:25 AM
the weather in montana is right in my wheelhouse...but other than that i cant think of a single thing about living there that wouldnt give me suicidal thoughts
Montana:
(http://www.sewildlife.com/Nature/North-American-landscapes/MountSentine7453A/689678477_4URzC-L-2.jpg)
Laurel, MD:
(http://www.totsandtravel.com/images/hotels/us_MD/super_8_laurel_maryland-main.jpg)
sorry couldnt do it...visit....farg yeah....live there tho and i eat a gun within six months
but to each his own...this is why we have two americas...so theres one for everyone
fyi this is my back yard
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I am legitimately shocked that you have any knowledge, second hand or otherwise, of Bozeman. I take back my mocking post. Well, I take back part of it. Until Dio astounds me with his Bozeman links, the mockery still applies to him.
its not something im especially proud of
Your ducks have too much white on them.
But yeah...summer temps up there are very appealing. But it's a short season. I was looking at their real time temp the other night and it was still dropping into the 30s at night.
So its essentially Maine.
Quote from: Seabiscuit36 on June 01, 2012, 10:17:05 AM
So its essentially Maine.
More than likely with a lot less fog and rain.
Probably. With less trees and coast line.
Quote from: Sgt PSN on June 01, 2012, 10:16:16 AM
But yeah...summer temps up there are very appealing. But it's a short season. I was looking at their real time temp the other night and it was still dropping into the 30s at night.
bozeman averages
july/aug - 83 & 50
jan/feb - 38 &15
Here's what you can find in my backyard:
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Yeah, I know the averages. Looked the town up on city data. But I did a double take when I saw the temp in the 30s over Memorial Day weekend.
We're going to be up there for about 2.5 weeks so we should get a good look enough look at it to know if it's a place we'd want to live or not.
Apparently Geo is shacked up with Steve Irwin's widow.
LOL geo. My buddy lives in Port St Lucie and he's dealing with Rattlesnakes, coral snakes, gators, and Recluses. He's about ready to head back north.
I think the most dangerous thing I have here is deer ticks right now. Maybe mosquitos, but luckily the county just sent our a sprayer Wednesday night. Considering our location i love the spraying.
MA!
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I don't see them (alligators and bears) nearly as often as you'd think. There was some drunk idiot swimming in one of the canals about 3 miles away from my house that no longer has a left arm. And I saw my first bear out here driving to work a few weeks ago about a mile from my house, right next to the road. Just about hit the damn thing - that would have killed my Kia.
My house isn't next to a canal, so my chances of actually seeing an alligator in my yard is pretty slim. Lots of dear, though. The woods isn't nearly as pretty down here as it was in Chesco, though.
The Widows and Recluses are all over the damn place. One of my major projects is cleaning up the garage and getting rid of all the toddler bikes and toys. You'd better believe I'll be wearing gloves. I've seen mostly black snakes in my yard (somehow one got into a box on a shelf in my garage), but there have been a few pygmies and corals as well.
Near my school in Ft. Myers, the major issue they're having is coyotes. People can't leave their dogs out unattended at all.
And, if the life and economic situation would let me, I'd be on the first plane out of this state and heading back north myself.
For those that care, this a good picture of the area where I live. We're less than five minutes away.
Picayune Strand State Forest (http://www.floridaforestservice.com/state_forests/picayune_strand.html)
Florida sucks![/Dio]
The new performance standards at my job take effect today, there's not one person out of the 70 in my office who are even close to making it. I've been rated in the top 5 since I've been here and I'm still way off. The whole thing is a ridiculous joke. Can't wait to get another job.
My sister lived in Bozeman for a few years. I've never been there myself.
Quote from: SD on June 01, 2012, 02:43:37 PM
The new performance standards at my job take effect today, there's not one person out of the 70 in my office who are even close to making it. I've been rated in the top 5 since I've been here and I'm still way off. The whole thing is a ridiculous joke. Can't wait to get another job.
Welcome to the corporate world of Create Incentive...People strive to reach that incentive, then the carrot gets moved further away.
You mean like busting your ass for 17 years hoping for a pension at 20 and then getting kicked to the curb?
I seriously can't get over how farged up that is. Jesus.
pretty much..
Eh, I'm already over it. At least for now. In a few years when I'm not getting a pension I'll probably be pissed again but for now, I'm shifting gears and moving on.
Good for you. That shtein would stick with me. farging horseshtein.
Quote from: rjs246 on June 01, 2012, 04:30:41 PM
I seriously can't get over how farged up that is. Jesus.
You haven't seen as bad at work?
Frankly, no. A pension is something that is basically extinct right now in private industry so the problems I see are different. If I had put in 85% of the requirements for a full pension and was told that the other party wasn't holding up their end of the deal I'd farging lose it. I mean, the whole reason you stick with the army is to get a pension. Not because you love the farging army. (Sure there are people who love it and would stick with it, but I'm talking about normal human beings here.)
The corporate world is cutthroat and values loyalty about as much as it values union memberships. That lack of loyalty shouldn't be expected in the armed forces.
We vest in our meager pensions after 7 years but the cockface governor we have moved that to 10 for new hires. That's being challenged in court but considering the nazi judges we've had appointed for the last 20 years I doubt the newbies will see any relief.
Honestly, though, if I was Sarge I'd farging go ballistic on someone especially if I didn't have anything to lose otherwise.
It shouldn't be expected anywhere is my hippy point. Yet, it's the rule everywhere.
What does Sassy have to lose that we don't know about?
Fair point.
Sassy could always contact his congressman, that shtein not only works but it will also piss the Marines off. Double win.
I think he's already writen him, SD.
update:
if this job works out i was told i will probably be covering a ton of girls high school basketball.
YOU DECIDE: 25% raise, bigger audience, bigger city, a college beat OR no hs girls hoops OR death
I haven't yet but am strongly considering doing so. Obviously I want my pension but at the same time, I've pretty much hated coming to work every day for the last 3 or 4 years so I'm not entirely butt hurt about getting out. The only thing I'm really pissed about is the manner in which this is all going down. It's a long story that I doubt I'll ever fill everyone in on. Lucky you.
Quote from: MDS on June 01, 2012, 07:04:51 PM
update:
if this job works out i was told i will probably be covering a ton of girls high school basketball.
YOU DECIDE: 25% raise, bigger audience, bigger city, a college beat OR no hs girls hoops OR death
Take the money and bigger audience.
May was a record month for a sales team at my company. $868,000 sold by me and my sales partner. We normally do about $700k.
Quote from: Sgt PSN on June 01, 2012, 07:05:32 PM
I haven't yet but am strongly considering doing so. Obviously I want my pension but at the same time, I've pretty much hated coming to work every day for the last 3 or 4 years so I'm not entirely butt hurt about getting out. The only thing I'm really pissed about is the manner in which this is all going down. It's a long story that I doubt I'll ever fill everyone in on. Lucky you.
I'm pretty sure you already filled us all in on it. Something about telling you "hey you're back in! get your fat ass in shape!" and then a couple months later they stuffed a big black dildo up your ass and said get out. I remember thinking the same thing Rusty said about how farged up that was.
Quote from: Munson on June 01, 2012, 09:27:33 PM
Quote from: Sgt PSN on June 01, 2012, 07:05:32 PM
I haven't yet but am strongly considering doing so. Obviously I want my pension but at the same time, I've pretty much hated coming to work every day for the last 3 or 4 years so I'm not entirely butt hurt about getting out. The only thing I'm really pissed about is the manner in which this is all going down. It's a long story that I doubt I'll ever fill everyone in on. Lucky you.
I'm pretty sure you already filled us all in on it. Something about telling you "hey you're back in! get your fat ass in shape!" and then a couple months later they stuffed a big black dildo up your ass and said get out. I remember thinking the same thing Rusty said about how farged up that was.
Didn't see this until now, but yes Munson, that's pretty much the gist of it. Good times.
So I'm in Helena, MT right now. Took the MT police exam today. Scored 100% on the wri
tten test which should give you an idea of how easy it was. Sadly, I was the only person to score perfectly in all categories which also gives you an idea of how dumb some of the people were who took the test today. There was about 55 people and I think 5 or 6 failures. Simple math, spelling and reading comprehension. This was seriously like 5th grade level shtein. And apparently perfect scores don't happen too often. So I had representatives coming up to me from every police department in the state asking me if I was interested in applying with them. So that was cool.
The physical agility test was a little harder than I thought it would be, but I think that's mostly attributed to the change in altitude. I'm a good 2500 feet higher up here than I am in Cali. Still, it wasn't incredibly difficult and I finished with one of the faster times in the group so as long as I don't make an ass out of myself during interviews, I think I'll be one of the first applicants to get hired.
Going to visit my kids this week and then next week starting on the 9th are interviews. Luckily I've done a couple of interviews in Cali with jobs I wasn't even interested in just to get some interviewing experience under my belt and hopefully got rid of all the jitters too. I haven't been on a job interview since 1998.
Idiot. By passing the written test you've proven you're not cop material.
So pretty soon everyone on CF will know someone that lives in Montana. Weird.
I just found out recently one of my girls college friends lives in Wyoming now, doubling the state's population.
I can't wait until we get to hear about Sassy raiding Tim Hauck's meth lab.
speaking of questionable moves, my last day in browntown is tomorrow
i already moved everything into a new apartment in mcallen, so from now on i will still be near the border but will be around slightly more white people.
Quote from: General_Failure on June 30, 2012, 10:50:42 PM
I can't wait until we get to hear about Sassy raiding Tim Hauck's meth lab.
Lol. Isn't Ryan Leaf living/incarerated in Montana now? I'm sure I'll get to arrest him some day.
http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/7765279/ryan-leaf-arrested-montana-again-gps-implicates-ex-nfl-qb-crime
Hahahaha....yes he is.
I still consider his "win" against the Eagles to be one of the biggest blemishes in their franchise history.
Well, Bozeman PD is out. Got an email from them today saying I didn't "make the cut" to get called in for an interview. Not sure how because of my test scores. Squaw applied too and she didn't receive a rejection letter today so maybe she's still in the running. I've still got applications in with Billings and Helena but Bozeman was my preference. Oh well.
Quote from: Sgt PSN on July 04, 2012, 12:21:14 AM
Well, Bozeman PD is out. Got an email from them today saying I didn't "make the cut" to get called in for an interview. Not sure how because of my test scores.
Quote from: General_Failure on June 30, 2012, 10:20:17 PM
Idiot. By passing the written test you've proven you're not cop material.
Maybe you should have followed up and sent me your resume so I could get it into the right hands before you cowboyed into town thinking everyone wants a brokedown Marine castaway as their next Barney Fife.
Your loss bucko.
Um, I sent that like 2 weeks ago. I meant to follow up with you right before I got on the road to see if you got it. Apparently not.
Also, Billings emailed me today. Interview next Friday.
I don't remember you asking me for permission to leave me! When did you decide your future was in Montucky?
I blame that broad of yours...what's her name with the pretty face, that can kick my ass? Yeah, her! She's taking you away from me. I hate her!
Ok, that just means we're gonna have to move 3 hours away from you so that we don't see each other as we do now. :yay
Quote from: Sgt PSN on July 05, 2012, 12:28:50 AM
Um, I sent that like 2 weeks ago. I meant to follow up with you right before I got on the road to see if you got it. Apparently not.
You never sent nothing, glad I could help.
Quote from: hbionic on July 05, 2012, 03:34:39 AM
I don't remember you asking me for permission to leave me! When did you decide your future was in Montucky?
I blame that broad of yours...what's her name with the pretty face, that can kick my ass? Yeah, her! She's taking you away from me. I hate her!
Ok, that just means we're gonna have to move 3 hours away from you so that we don't see each other as we do now. :yay
If its any consolation, MT is likely out now. We have interviews in Billings but that's an 8 hour drive to see my kids so it's not going to let me see them much more than I do now.
But I did just apply for a recruiting job with the Corps....Peace Corps that is. This one is in Spokane, which is kind of a shteinhole town, but I'd probabably live in Coeur D' Alene so I could pretty much see my kids every day if I want.
I also applied for a job with the Army Corps of Engineers in Seattle. Wouldn't mind living over there again either.
Quote from: Diomedes on July 05, 2012, 05:52:43 AM
Quote from: Sgt PSN on July 05, 2012, 12:28:50 AM
Um, I sent that like 2 weeks ago. I meant to follow up with you right before I got on the road to see if you got it. Apparently not.
You never sent nothing, glad I could help.
I did, but I checked the other day and it's stuck in my outbox and won't send. Tried hitting send/receive over and over and it wont budge. Can't delete it or open it. Scanned for viruses and that's coming back negative as well. And the attachment size is well within regs too. Farging Outlook. I should have bought a MacBook instead of the desktop so I could travel with it.
How zesty is it out there? My office is hiring 15 new agents. They interviewed 70 people for those 15 position, 10 of the applicants have a Masters Degree and 2 have a Doctorate. The position they're applying for has a probationary period of one year at the GS 7 level which pays about $40k a year.
its more of a cultural problem than anything. growing middle class, easily available resources to move up, but the upper class has gamed the system and made it so almost nobody can make it through but them.
also, for some reason everyone bought the dog and pony show that you need to go to college and get a masters and all that. so there are too many people who have too many years of higher education but there are not enough jobs to support that.
fact is some of those people should be working at wal mart or serving drunk morons at chiles. like we just had a guy who turned down a job here because the salary wasnt high enough. he doesnt have a job. he thinks hes worth 40-45. my editor doesnt even make that.
people believe they are farging awesome and farging worth something theyre not. everyone is worth what the market says they are. just because you spend $100k on some degree doesnt mean dick. maybe instead of going to school for 3 years you should have been doing grunt work for XXXX company, and then after those 3 years are up, you get a better job there.
Those types of jobs are few and far between anymore...companies want people with college degrees, they don't just hire scrubs off the street and promote them within the company like they used to
Quote from: Munson on July 26, 2012, 08:09:13 PM
Those types of jobs are few and far between anymore...companies want people with college degrees, they don't just hire scrubs off the street and promote them within the company like they used to
Used to be you could show up to a job with a college degree and have a fighting chance, those days are over. Now everyone applying for a semi-decent position has a college degree. I've applied for 5 jobs over the past 2 months and haven't had a call back as of yet.
once you have been in the job market for a significant amount of time a degree means little....its primarily based on your resume - experience...last review...reccommendations....ect - in other words your skill set experience and past performance
a degree only really matters when you are 21 or 22...at that point it would certainly give you an advantage over a person who doesnt have a degree
Quote from: ice grillin you on July 27, 2012, 07:23:41 AM
once you have been in the job market for a significant amount of time a degree means little....its primarily based on your resume - experience...last review...reccommendations....ect - in other words your skill set experience and past performance
a degree only really matters when you are 21 or 22...at that point it would certainly give you an advantage over a person who doesnt have a degree
This is all true but if you were competing against someone with a similar resume and they had a degree and you didn't they'd most likely hire the person with the degree.
Quote from: SD on July 27, 2012, 07:49:48 AM
Quote from: ice grillin you on July 27, 2012, 07:23:41 AM
once you have been in the job market for a significant amount of time a degree means little....its primarily based on your resume - experience...last review...reccommendations....ect - in other words your skill set experience and past performance
a degree only really matters when you are 21 or 22...at that point it would certainly give you an advantage over a person who doesnt have a degree
This is all true but if you were competing against someone with a similar resume and they had a degree and you didn't they'd most likely hire the person with the degree.
this certainly happens but even in an example like this an interview would carry more weight than a degree...in jobs where a degree isnt required a degree is way down the list
obviously where the degree really helps you is if the job is listed as "must have degree"
Quote from: SD on July 26, 2012, 08:35:09 PM
Quote from: Munson on July 26, 2012, 08:09:13 PM
Those types of jobs are few and far between anymore...companies want people with college degrees, they don't just hire scrubs off the street and promote them within the company like they used to
Used to be you could show up to a job with a college degree and have a fighting chance, those days are over. Now everyone applying for a semi-decent position has a college degree. I've applied for 5 jobs over the past 2 months and haven't had a call back as of yet.
5 jobs in two months is not really much at all. Last time I was unemployed I think I applied for 200 jobs the first week and 50 a week after that.
I'm not desperate freeloader
Quote from: ice grillin you on July 27, 2012, 08:12:42 AM
Quote from: SD on July 27, 2012, 07:49:48 AM
Quote from: ice grillin you on July 27, 2012, 07:23:41 AM
once you have been in the job market for a significant amount of time a degree means little....its primarily based on your resume - experience...last review...reccommendations....ect - in other words your skill set experience and past performance
a degree only really matters when you are 21 or 22...at that point it would certainly give you an advantage over a person who doesnt have a degree
This is all true but if you were competing against someone with a similar resume and they had a degree and you didn't they'd most likely hire the person with the degree.
this certainly happens but even in an example like this an interview would carry more weight than a degree...in jobs where a degree isnt required a degree is way down the list
obviously where the degree really helps you is if the job is listed as "must have degree"
That's why I went to the University of Making Money
Got an email about one of the fed jobs I applied for today.....recruiter job with the Peace Corps. Didn't get it. Another email I received a couple days ago said that my application has been forwarded to the hiring official. I assume that there's still several (maybe even dozens) of candidates being looked at by this individual, but this would be a legit job if I get hired. The application tracker says that I've been qualified as a GS-9 and tentatively passed quals for 11. Not sure how it works on the gubment side, but I kind of hope that I don't qual as an 11. I wonder if they wouldn't hire a 7 or 9 in order to save money.
From a job posting I read today:
QuoteStarting with job offers dated February 1, 2012 and after, XXX Hospital will no longer hire applicants who use tobacco products, including cigarettes, cigars and chewing or smokeless tobacco. Applicants will be screened for nicotine as part of the pre-employment physical process. Nicotine will be part of the urine drug screen. Applicants who test positive for nicotine will not be offered employment. Applicants who test positive may re-apply for jobs with XXX Hospital in six months.
How is that even legal?
probably not, though i guess they could argue "cigarette stench" cant help but makes its way into the work place and that is something they obviously want, which might make it OK
in the least its a good way to weed out white trash
It is legal I think, you have no legal right to smoke and I know that employers have to make no allowances for smokers at all. I read about 1 place that didn't allow smoking on the premises, even though they were some kind of resort that took a 15 minute short-bus ride to get in and out of.
I used to work for a company in DC that had as a policy no smoking by employees. Not like, no smoking in the building, but "we are a non-smoking company". I actually smoked at the time and just ignored the rule totally.
It's one thing to not allow smoking on the property. If a business doesn't want to provide a designated smoking area, that's fine. Or even if they don't want to allow smoke breaks during the day and limit all employee breaks to a common area break room or something. That's cool too. I know when I come back in from smoking I probably stink up the office. But I do have a legal right to smoke at home. Smoking is not illegal. Just like eating at McDonald's isn't illegal. We know that both are unhealthy for you, but I don't see any companies not hiring people because they test positive for Big Macs and McNuggets.
The sheriff's dept. doesn't hire smokers here either. It's absurd.
It is perfectly legal--ours is an "at will" employment system--and a rapidly growing trend. The anti-smoker witch hunt has been one of the most wildly successful public policy campaigns in modern history.
It is an unbearable stench though, you have to admit smoke stack.
I love the smell. But then again, I smoked for 26 years, so yeah..
Quote from: Diomedes on August 09, 2012, 05:44:17 PM
It is perfectly legal--ours is an "at will" employment system--and a rapidly growing trend. The anti-smoker witch hunt has been one of the most wildly successful public policy campaigns in modern history.
I get it that people hate smokers. It's disgusting, smells, bad for your health, etc, etc. I even get it if companies don't want to hire smokers. We probably drive the insurance rates up.
The thing that really gets me is the nicotine tests. I used that e-cigarette for about 4 or 5 months a couple years back. It was working well up until I deployed to South America and didn't have enough refills with me, so I started smoking cigs again and I never bothered ordering any refills when I got back. Maybe someday. Anyway, it's putting nicotine in my system but that's it. No smell, no residue, no negative health impacts. And I imagine if I were on the patch or chewing Nicorette gum or something that nicotine would also be put into my system. So you're telling me that I'm not eligible for a job if I'm using a product with 0 tobacco in it? That's bullshtein.
Your desire for liberty is bullshtein.
Yeah, it's a lost concept on the American public.
Correction. Personal liberty is dead. But financial liberty (also known as the liberty to evade taxes and horde money from your less fortunate countrymen) is alive and well.
Only for illegals
its not that hard to not smoke
just dont be a white trash pos and stick cancer in your mouth.
I smoke in order to compliment my colorful tattoos.
every other monday off does not suck
imagine having memorial day weekend twice a month
now you are me
I pretty much stopped going to work about 2 months ago. I call in every morning just to let them know I'm alive, but other than that I'd say I've spent maybe a combined total of 30 hours at work since June 1. Of course, that well runs dry in 2 weeks so....yeah....
live the life bro
Got approved for full severance today. Gross is about 12k more than what I make in a year. But after they tax the shtein out of it I get about 10k less than my annual salary. I'm also selling back 45 vacation days which after taxes will come out to about 1 month salary. And I'm doing a DITY move instead of having the govt pay for it. Once you take off the cost of renting a UHaul truck and trailer, I'll get a check equal to approx 2-3 months of my salary.
Also, farg work. I'm heading east and staying in the apartment Ma Dukes has on the back of her farm house up near Bloomsburg. Rent free. Gonna farg around until after the holidays, maybe start working on that Willies finally, and collect unemployment. So yeah, I'll def be looking to hit up a couple of Birds games this year, may even throw my hat into the New Orleans ring.
What about the Squaw?
Quote from: Sgt PSN on August 14, 2012, 11:39:22 PM
Got approved for full severance today.
File your VA claim immediately as well. But remember the VA won't pay you a dime until equal to your severance pay is paid back. So if the VA approves you for $500 per month compensation and you got $30k as severance you aren't getting a comp check for 60 months.
Quote from: Sgt PSN on August 14, 2012, 11:39:22 PM
Got approved for full severance today. Gross is about 12k more than what I make in a year. But after they tax the shtein out of it I get about 10k less than my annual salary. I'm also selling back 45 vacation days which after taxes will come out to about 1 month salary. And I'm doing a DITY move instead of having the govt pay for it. Once you take off the cost of renting a UHaul truck and trailer, I'll get a check equal to approx 2-3 months of my salary.
Also, farg work. I'm heading east and staying in the apartment Ma Dukes has on the back of her farm house up near Bloomsburg. Rent free. Gonna farg around until after the holidays, maybe start working on that Willies finally, and collect unemployment. So yeah, I'll def be looking to hit up a couple of Birds games this year, may even throw my hat into the New Orleans ring.
What's the T in DITY? You should mos def go to NOLA
Quote from: SD on August 15, 2012, 05:46:11 AM
Quote from: Sgt PSN on August 14, 2012, 11:39:22 PM
Got approved for full severance today.
File your VA claim immediately as well. But remember the VA won't pay you a dime until equal to your severance pay is paid back. So if the VA approves you for $500 per month compensation and you got $30k as severance you aren't getting a comp check for 60 months.
My understanding is that severance doesn't impact disability because I'm not getting medically separated.
Quote from: Tomahawk on August 15, 2012, 09:12:03 AM
Quote from: Sgt PSN on August 14, 2012, 11:39:22 PM
Got approved for full severance today. Gross is about 12k more than what I make in a year. But after they tax the shtein out of it I get about 10k less than my annual salary. I'm also selling back 45 vacation days which after taxes will come out to about 1 month salary. And I'm doing a DITY move instead of having the govt pay for it. Once you take off the cost of renting a UHaul truck and trailer, I'll get a check equal to approx 2-3 months of my salary.
Also, farg work. I'm heading east and staying in the apartment Ma Dukes has on the back of her farm house up near Bloomsburg. Rent free. Gonna farg around until after the holidays, maybe start working on that Willies finally, and collect unemployment. So yeah, I'll def be looking to hit up a couple of Birds games this year, may even throw my hat into the New Orleans ring.
What's the T in DITY? You should mos def go to NOLA
Do IT Yourself.
Believe it or not I like the "job" I have. It's actually quite challenging and stimulating from an intellectual standpoint. There isn't a day that goes by that I don't learn something new and that's really cool considering I've been doing this for a long time.
I don't like everything other than the job, though. It's extremely difficult for me to bite my tongue and I've had to do that continually for what seems like the last six months or so. I actually got "spoken to" by my supervisor today for questioning the wisdom of his decision even though he asked my opinion on the subject beforehand. He's a short-timer with less than four months til he's out for good, but honestly, if you can't honestly respond to a question without fear of being chastised for doing so, I don't see the point of bothering to offer an answer. My reply was fairly curt after being "spoken to." I just said, no problem, sorry if you took it the wrong way, to which he replied, "it was very disrespectful".
Up the chain I go, I guess.
Yay meaningless government functionary bullshtein!
Quote from: Sgt PSN on August 15, 2012, 10:21:57 AM
Quote from: SD on August 15, 2012, 05:46:11 AM
Quote from: Sgt PSN on August 14, 2012, 11:39:22 PM
Got approved for full severance today.
File your VA claim immediately as well. But remember the VA won't pay you a dime until equal to your severance pay is paid back. So if the VA approves you for $500 per month compensation and you got $30k as severance you aren't getting a comp check for 60 months.
Pretty sure it doesn't matter what kind of severance you get, they won't allow you to double dip.
My understanding is that severance doesn't impact disability because I'm not getting medically separated.
I asked about this today actually. The way it explained to me is if you are getting medically separated and elect to take a "severance" then you are essentially borrowing against your disability (the money is paid by the VA and not the military) and you won't receive VA checks until you've paid back the amount that you were paid.
My severance isn't medically related because I was denied reenlistment, so the money I'm paid is coming direct from Uncle Sam, not from the VA.
Guess I'll find out for certain when I file my claim.
You could be right, I don't work with comp much although I did just apply for a VSR job in comp.
Quote from: Rome on August 16, 2012, 06:04:20 PM
Believe it or not I like the "job" I have. It's actually quite challenging and stimulating from an intellectual standpoint. There isn't a day that goes by that I don't learn something new and that's really cool considering I've been doing this for a long time.
I don't like everything other than the job, though. It's extremely difficult for me to bite my tongue and I've had to do that continually for what seems like the last six months or so. I actually got "spoken to" by my supervisor today for questioning the wisdom of his decision even though he asked my opinion on the subject beforehand. He's a short-timer with less than four months til he's out for good, but honestly, if you can't honestly respond to a question without fear of being chastised for doing so, I don't see the point of bothering to offer an answer. My reply was fairly curt after being "spoken to." I just said, no problem, sorry if you took it the wrong way, to which he replied, "it was very disrespectful".
Up the chain I go, I guess.
Yay meaningless government functionary bullshtein!
I thought you were an appraiser. Wrong person?
i was doing next years work calendar and figured out i have 31 three day weekends in 2013
farg you! You need to become a surfer.
DD 214 in hand so I'm now officially a civilian. Because of the way everything went down and my general bitterness right now towards the Marine Corps, and my CO specifically, I didn't wear my uniform for my final check out. Went into the CO's office for him to give me my "out brief" and he started giving me shtein about my lack of uniform. Told him that dressing up like a Marine for 17 years didnt work out well for me and that I figured I'd try something new. Then he says that I'm on the verge of getting written up so I stood up, told him to write himself up, and walked out. I'm sure he probably had some admin clerk write up a Page 11 which is the equivilant to a Letter of Reprimand and carries no weight in the grand scheme of things. Doesn't change the character of my discharge (honorable) and it doesn't impact my severance. So yeah, farg him.
BTW...how do I go about buying some weed?
Quote from: Sgt PSN on August 24, 2012, 03:35:33 PM
DD 214 in hand so I'm now officially a civilian. Because of the way everything went down and my general bitterness right now towards the Marine Corps, and my CO specifically, I didn't wear my uniform for my final check out. Went into the CO's office for him to give me my "out brief" and he started giving me shtein about my lack of uniform. Told him that dressing up like a Marine for 17 years didnt work out well for me and that I figured I'd try something new. Then he says that I'm on the verge of getting written up so I stood up, told him to write himself up, and walked out. I'm sure he probably had some admin clerk write up a Page 11 which is the equivilant to a Letter of Reprimand and carries no weight in the grand scheme of things. Doesn't change the character of my discharge (honorable) and it doesn't impact my severance. So yeah, farg him.
I'm calling bs but if you did tell him that bravo zulu. They try to punk you right up until the day you walk out the door. It's their little controlling tendencies that rub people the wrong way. They sent me to Beachdet while the ship was out to sea my last month. 2 days left and my Chief tells me one of the officers on Beachdet threw me under the bus because I had a "I don't give a shtein" attitude. I told my Chief straight up "he's right I don't give a shtein".
Be happy, you're free. The grass is greener on the other side.
"Tomorrow will be the most beautiful day of Anthony Miller's life. His breakfast will taste better than any meal you and I have ever tasted."
No bs at all. The day my reenlistment got denied back in April, I sat in the guys office for about an hour and told him how farged up this unit is and that it reflects a lot more on him than it does me. I didn't give a shtein then so I def didn't give a shtein today. I've got my severance and I've got my DD214. There's not a damn thing he can do to me at this point. If anything, I'm mad at myself for being as "tactful" as I was.
Quote from: Sgt PSN on August 24, 2012, 05:58:43 PM
No bs at all. The day my reenlistment got denied back in April, I sat in the guys office for about an hour and told him how farged up this unit is and that it reflects a lot more on him than it does me. I didn't give a shtein then so I def didn't give a shtein today. I've got my severance and I've got my DD214. There's not a damn thing he can do to me at this point. If anything, I'm mad at myself for being as "tactful" as I was.
Down the line you'll be happy you stayed tactful. I hated my Chief but the day I got out I walked up to him and wished him luck in his future endeavors. He's still an icehole and last I heard he got booted and was in jail for beating his wife. So I win.
Difference though is you got out on your own free will and were just saying good bye to another enlisted douche. My CO played an integral role in my reenlistment getting denied when I'm 3 years away from retirement.
So I start getting settled in on this Monday morning, when one of the supervisors comes through the office, asking everybody to gather. Situations like that are usually not good, tensions were high.
She starts - in a pretty shaky, upset voice - saying that she got an e-mail early this morning, telling her that the boss' boss' sister, who was sick in the hospital, had passed away. After suggesting some sort of group charitable donation, we were dismissed to go back to our desks.
Normally, when a spouse or parent of one of our coworkers passes, we get an e-mail, a request to sign a bereavement card, or something like this (I had two parents, two parents-in-law, and a couple of siblings-in-law pass away, and there wasn't so much as an mention). But this is a guy that maybe half of our group never even worked with. And I'm not sure that any of us knew him enough to know that he even HAD a sister.
I don't deny that it sucks losing a sibling, and it's great when a close-knit office is there to offer consolation to a bereaved coworker...but this crap is too damned sycophantic.
get well get well soon, we want you to get well
I got hit with a retirement begfest when I first started. Like on my first day. I chipped in five bucks but I didn't sign the card.
skip the phony mourning and go drink beer
Quote from: Susquehanna Birder on August 27, 2012, 08:05:55 AM
So I start getting settled in on this Monday morning, when one of the supervisors comes through the office, asking everybody to gather. Situations like that are usually not good, tensions were high.
She starts - in a pretty shaky, upset voice - saying that she got an e-mail early this morning, telling her that the boss' boss' sister, who was sick in the hospital, had passed away. After suggesting some sort of group charitable donation, we were dismissed to go back to our desks.
Normally, when a spouse or parent of one of our coworkers passes, we get an e-mail, a request to sign a bereavement card, or something like this (I had two parents, two parents-in-law, and a couple of siblings-in-law pass away, and there wasn't so much as an mention). But this is a guy that maybe half of our group never even worked with. And I'm not sure that any of us knew him enough to know that he even HAD a sister.
I don't deny that it sucks losing a sibling, and it's great when a close-knit office is there to offer consolation to a bereaved coworker...but this crap is too damned sycophantic.
You should have punched her in the mouth for making you think it was something important.
Is the office large enough that you can just decline to participate and avoid notice?
Or go the opposite direction with an impromptu speech about what a tragic senseless loss of life and how dearly s/he will be missed. And that everyone has the rest of the day off for if they need to meet with grief counselors.
I should say thanks to you also, Sus for reminding me why I left that world. I dug a drywell today for the purge cycle of a water treatment system we are having installed at a client's home. The system is for the irrigation. The water reads at 17 ppm iron, which is so high it will stain the house and any plants the water is sprayed onto. As Sarge would say, anywho....it was tough hot work and I am hurting a bit right now, but you have helped me to recall what utter hell I left, and how good it is to bust your ass and not have to suck so much dick.
If this wasn't a man's world, the alternate ending to your post would have been:
"...and how good it is to bust your ass and not have to eat so much Hoyda"
One year at my old job, a woman chased her dog unto the tracks at the closest station to our company on the r5. I heard she got decapitated/dismembered. Needless to say, a bunch of people at work had to get grief counseling.
They knew her?
Quote from: hbionic on August 27, 2012, 07:16:43 PM
They knew her?
No, I think just the fact that it was the train port for our company with shuttle service. I guess because they witnessed a horrific death.
I know...I was trying to be funny.
I guess I'll go try somewhere else. :'(
Quote from: hbionic on August 27, 2012, 07:19:00 PM
I know...I was trying to be funny.
I guess I'll go try somewhere else. :'(
Oh my bad....
I was actually taking the train that week too because my car was getting inspected and in the shop. I got my car back a couples day before.
You see some scary shtein riding public transportation. I saw an older guy fall down on the Metro track, on the platform opposite me, but the people on that side sprung to action and got him up without incident. It's amazing that more stuff doesn't happen.
I still can't believe that guy in New York a few years ago jumped on the guy who was having a seizure. Not many people would be willing to bet their life on a couple inches to save a stranger.
I haven't seen that one...new york subway seizure are the key words I guess?
Quote from: Diomedes on August 27, 2012, 05:18:31 PM
Is the office large enough that you can just decline to participate and avoid notice?
Unfortunately, no. Maybe 10 people, and the supervisor specifically asked us to attend.
Quote from: hbionic on August 27, 2012, 07:26:58 PM
I haven't seen that one...new york subway seizure are the key words I guess?
Wow check this close call...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cqokLKn-tx4
Here's the video of the story of the seizure guy.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YWRENrhA11k
Wow.
I can't say that I would have done the same.
Amazing.
If there are 70 virgins to be had in our afterlife, I hope his deeds just got him 5 whores and a jacuzzi. Man deserves it.
Quote from: hbionic on August 27, 2012, 08:27:06 PM
Wow.
I can't say that I would have done the same.
Amazing.
If there are 70 virgins to be had in our afterlife, I hope his deeds just got him 5 whores and a jacuzzi. Man deserves it.
During rush hour in the morning, I'm usually too tired to have any idea what's going on. As for rush hour after work, I'm so antsy to get home I totally zone out the train and everyone around me.
I don't think there's anyway I could do what he did, especially with my two kids standing right there like in the story.
Interviewed for a new job with the VA on Friday, was told today I was selected. I start on the 24th. I'l be adjudicating claims for compensation. In a year I'll go from a GS 9 to a 10. Slowly making my way up to igy level.
My co-worker's fiancee has about 150% rating from all his disabilities but isn't 100% disabled (he's rated at 90%).
Any chance you could fix that type of retardation so people who get blown the farg up in active war will stop getting dicked around by the VA?
Can he still work? If not he can file for individual unemployability. His % might not be 100 but he'd be paid at the same rate. And don't tally the individual %s up to figure the %. The VA goes by the whole person theory.
Can't work. He's 30 years old and he might as well be farging 80. The VA keeps dicking him around and Social Security is worse.
Quote from: SD on September 11, 2012, 06:47:22 PM
Interviewed for a new job with the VA on Friday, was told today I was selected. I start on the 24th. I'l be adjudicating claims for compensation. In a year I'll go from a GS 9 to a 10. Slowly making my way up to igy level.
I'd like to schedule an appt with you for the 25th.
i just called in like a mother farger
I just found out that the budget having been underestimated so badly in combination with extravagent expenditures (eg ~50 mil for air freighting transmissions to India) means we're going to have rolling layoffs where all management and salaried employees must take a week off in October, and possibly another week, or even two, by year end. Why couldn't they have waited a week to decide this so I'd have the option of being laid off the first full week of November and not have to burn vacation time for th NOLA game? dicks
Unemployment is the shtein.
Shirley you mean FUnemployment
Correct. I filed for compensation but I don't think I'll get it since I received a severance. Still, not having a job is awesome. I'm in Tennessee right now visiting family I haven't seen in nearly 20 years and when I go back to PA next week I'm going to spend the rest of the year organizing and selling all of the stuff my mom has piled up in her garage that she's been trying to get rid of for years. So I'll basically be making a little money through eBay and Craigslist. And hopefully i can start working on my Willys as well So maybe I'll look for work after the new year.
When I was last unemployed during the Great Recession, I was given severance and was still able to collect unemployment to help subsidize my FUnemployment binge drinking. Even though I still have a job, I collect unemployment for the week I'm laid off.
What kind of shtein are you going to sell?
Typical yard sale stuff....just a lot more of it than what most people have. Somehow she managed to become the dumping ground for my entire family's unwanted stuff. Furniture, electronics, movies, knick knacks...all that shtein. I'm just going to list it all online for my mom to help move it quicker. She sells quite a bit when she has yard sales but her house is kind of remote so she doesn't always get a lot of people coming buy. It's an impressive setup she's got though. Her garage basically looks like a 2nd hand store only more organized.
That shtein has to go though because now that I have access to my grandfathers old shop tools (drill press, grinders, blow torch, etc), I want to use the garage for a shop and start building shtein. Don't know what I want to build, but I'm gonna build something.
So I hate my job, and I have an offer (verbal at the moment should have the letter in the next couple of days) and am planning on putting my notice in once I have it. The issue is the two guys I work for are fantastic, as is most of the people on the contract. I am not leaving for money so much as I am for growth/opportunity, and because the contract I work on is in a customer site where the relationship is becoming quite caustic.
I feel like I am going to be letting my bosses and counterparts, who are also friends, down. I've worked at this place since getting out of the service ten years ago, and have never actually quit anywhere. Anyone with advice on how to do it?
Burn bridges. Blaze of glory. Flinging feces.
Just the usual internet recommendations.
Quote from: rjs246 on October 17, 2012, 01:00:39 PM
Burn bridges. Blaze of glory. Flinging feces.
Just the usual internet recommendations.
The opposite of this of course, since the grass is not always quite as green when you get there.
Explain why you are leaving, give more than two weeks notice if they need it, offer to continue to help out on the side if needed, make sure you create a guide/manual of all of the institutional knowledge that you have, etc.
One of my perhaps most successful friends has twice left a company for an upward move, and then leveraged back into the old company a year or two later with a better position, better pay, etc. He did this by just being unfailingly nice and upfront about what he was doing, and never, ever telling the old company what he truly thought about them.
govt just announced they are closed tomorrow
yippee!!!
Quote from: ice grillin you on October 28, 2012, 06:08:21 PM
govt just announced they are closed tomorrow
yippee!
They told us Friday as long as the lights come on we better be there working. Just called the hotline and they're closed. Hell yeah.
The fargers in Germany and England with whom I have conference calls tomorrow aren't likely to care about our weather. Arrogant fargers. I should just pretend my power is out.
So my company (at least locally) was shut down on Monday and Tuesday. Last winter, they announced that during inclement-weather closures, employees must either use vacation days or take the time as an unpaid (excused) absence. That's a pain, but I can deal with it. What really bugs me, though, is when my coworkers (not salaried workers) feel the need to bring their laptops home and do work during a shutdown. Why do they feel obligated to donate their time to the company?
(Me? I drank and played board games and watched movies with the family. F the man.)
People are farging idiots. Earlier this month, all the employees of my division had to choose a week to take for a temporary layoff. Some mouthbreathers were more upset the company was adamant about not doing any work whatsoever including checking e-mails or even talking to a co-worker about a project than they were about missing a week's worth of pay.
Maybe your co-workers don't have to burn vacation time if they work from home?
Yeah, no way in hell I'd take my work home with me if I'm not getting paid for it. The only way I'd even consider it is if I'm working on a project that has a promotion and/or significant pay raise riding on it. And even then, the deadline would have to be rapidly approaching for me to give up days off.
Quote from: Tomahawk on October 31, 2012, 09:03:49 AM
Maybe your co-workers don't have to burn vacation time if they work from home?
Nope, it was made clear to us last winter. Unpaid or vacation/personal time.
I might be okay with taking work home IF there was an important client or impending deadline. But I know what these people are doing, and there is plenty of wiggle room for our projects.
I left my old position mid September, it was honestly the worst job I ever had. I dreaded waking up in the morning. They enacted new standards then acted like the employees should just shut up and take it and be gracious they had a job. 19 people left the same week I left, the office had 65 agents. As of today an additional 11 people left. Meaning since they decided to strong arm their employees and act like iceholes almost half their work force has gotten new employment in a zesty economy. People took lesser positions some making as much as 15k less just to get out of there. I started putting applications in hardcore in May. I'm grateful for the opportunity I received at my new position, that I can move up within 2 years makes it that much better.
Long story short the same philosophy I had when I got out of the Navy is the same one I have now: if the grass looks greener on the other side it probably is.
When I see this thread, I have the same burning desire to chime in that I still hate my job. It would be great to pop in here to see that I figured out a solution. I look forward to opening that thread. I'm a fortunate farger, no doubt about it... But I'd really like to solve that missing piece.
Quote from: Tomahawk on October 03, 2012, 12:12:44 PM
When I was last unemployed during the Great Recession, I was given severance and was still able to collect unemployment to help subsidize led bulb (http://www.niceledlights.com) my FUnemployment binge drinking. Even though I still have a job, I collect unemployment for the week I'm laid off.
What kind of shtein are you going to sell?
Dont hate your job it is much better then unemployment.
Quote from: Enthvor on December 28, 2012, 12:59:42 AM
Quote from: Tomahawk on October 03, 2012, 12:12:44 PM
When I was last unemployed during the Great Recession, I was given severance and was still able to collect unemployment to help subsidize my FUnemployment binge drinking. Even though I still have a job, I collect unemployment for the week I'm laid off.
What kind of shtein are you going to sell?
Dont hate your job it is much better then unemployment.
I appreciate the insight. You should change your name to Dear Abby then advise yourself to shut the farg up.
Boom goes the dynamite.
I want to quit and move to Vegas and be a bookie/tout/sports bettor.
Someone wanna go half in with me?
You are far too emotional to make any money betting. Stick with the prison guard thing, it's working out well so far.
I haven't done that in over five years.
I've been selling lumber and plywood since 07.
Good point about emotions but I can learn to calm down. Or not and end up living under a bridge. But I'd be free of corporate America.
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on December 28, 2012, 09:33:37 AM
Good point about emotions but I can learn to calm down.
Lolz
It's true!
I'm at Philly airport and missed my first flight out because of a ridiculous line/mob scene at the Southwest counter.
I never ever fly SW but my boy had miles he wanted to burn before he moves to another airline. I take him up on free ticket and arrive at 0500 for an 0715 flight. Stood in line for 2.5 hours to check my bag. Now sitting standby hoping to get a flight out.
Calm, cool and collected.
Never leaving United/Continental again though. Or should I say never flying Southwest again.
that's why you only bring carry ons son
You got that right.
However twofold reason I did not.
1. I was coming home for 3wks plus (turned into 5wks) and despite being an efficient packer I couldn't cram enough in a carry on for that amount of time.
2. Being that I've never flown SW I'm used to being elite on United. And united has bag drops where you don't need a person for anything but to take the bag and toss it on the belt.
Either way...no mas Southwest Airlines para mi.
Just show them your prison guard ID and tell them you have to get back for an execution.
I just spent 15 minutes helping someone with something totally unrelated to my job. As she was shuffling her enormous ass out the door she made an offhand insult about government workers.
I chatted with the guy reading the water meters this morning. Nice guy, not a lot of teeth, big smile. He showed me how he reads the meters. He was using homemade tools to pull the covers and brush off muddy dials so the numbers were visible. He also showed me the handheld computer device that he uses to log the readings.
There's been a big problem with water billing in town lately, with a lot of people being issued inflated bills, so he's been getting a lot of shtein from people on the street. I told him that I thought I was one of the people getting raped, until I compared my bills and usage with the calendar...sure enough it coincided with the inauguration of my campaign to save the earth by populating it with my DNA.
He told me we're getting new meters that will allow us to see our usage in, effectively, real time. He did not mention that they'll be able to take readings without guys like him.
Happy New Year.
They read our meters once every three months. If they're off in terms of usage they refund you the difference. The only problem with that occurs if you or they have a leak. They had one on their side of the meter and theoretically it shouldn't have affected my bill. Well, I got a $700 water bill one month and needless to say it piqued my interest. Surprisingly enough they took care of it immediately, especially after the water department guys arrived at my house to see a three by three foot hole surrounding their meter with me standing above it pointing to their busted pipe.
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on December 28, 2012, 09:41:41 AM
It's true!
I'm at Philly airport and missed my first flight out because of a ridiculous line/mob scene at the Southwest counter.
I never ever fly SW but my boy had miles he wanted to burn before he moves to another airline. I take him up on free ticket and arrive at 0500 for an 0715 flight. Stood in line for 2.5 hours to check my bag. Now sitting standby hoping to get a flight out.
Calm, cool and collected.
Never leaving United/Continental again though. Or should I say never flying Southwest again.
To follow up on this crap from yesterday...I ended up waiting at the airport until 4 in the afternoon on standby. I did not get a flight out so I took the train home and then went back this morning for the 8am nonstop to Houston.
We were delayed until 1pm. Why?
First excuse for the first 90min was the aircraft was at another part of the airport and needed clearance to be towed into the gate.
Then it was they could not tow it because the tow bar was broken. (like there aren't more tow bars at an airport with hundreds of planes).
Then they had to fly a mechanic in from Orlando to fix something on this plane.
Mechanic arrives at 11am and they start boarding at 1145 and we end up sitting on the plane for an hour while this guy fixes something in the nosecone. Why board us when it wasn't fixed? farging dopes.
Then we had to get de-iced. So we took off 5 hours late. farg Southwest Airlines.
The baggage handlers are dopes too - they had all the bags on the tarmac waiting to load and it started snowing like hell - they left the bags sit outside for a half hour and got soaked. Not mine though because mine went out yesterday on a plane even though I did not.
tl;dr Philadelphia's airport is the worst.
i guess because i only fly US Air Express for my work trips, but I have literally never had a problem with a flight at PHL. leave on time, arrive home on time.
I never had a problem either when I flew United/Continental.
Bottom line - Southwest is the devil.
A million inexperienced fliers and a buncha screaming kids too.
And the open seating sucks
ive flown twice in the last 25 years...both southwest and both wonderful
Twice in 25 years? Both times to NOLA?
correct
Third time to Vegas in fall of '13....lets do it
What's in fall of '13 in Vegas?
I am 100% down for a CF gambling/shennanigan spree in Vegas. Can someone turn on the Matty spotlight and point it towards D.C.?
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on December 30, 2012, 01:46:49 AM
Third time to Vegas in fall of '13....lets do it
its on...my brother and me were talking about it at xmas....hes gonna fly out with me and hold my hand...he will table it up with you too...i dont do cards but he will
OUT
Quote from: MDS on December 30, 2012, 02:23:08 AM
OUT
was never a thought....this will be big boy shtein
i dont forsee myself being in a situation next year where i could get away for a fall weekend
if i could...i would...but probably with people i know not J, igy and igy's rapist brother*
*this is a lie
probably not with anyone probably not ever
ill probably tag along when i probably move into your basement when i probably flame out of sports writing but probably not
ha
Quote from: hbionic on December 30, 2012, 01:48:36 AM
What's in fall of '13 in Vegas?
I am 100% down for a CF gambling/shennanigan spree in Vegas. Can someone turn on the Matty spotlight and point it towards D.C.?
I am pretty sure we can get Matty to go...he's a Vegas nut too.
Havas - I only really play cards after an exceptionally brutal craps session to try to recover some losses or on a quick hit a run (drop down 200 to try to double or more and then bolt).
Craps and sports betting. And you gotta play dice when we go...nothing better than a hot table. Especially when drunk and the waitresses are coming every three seconds.
MDS - it will be an extended weekend so maybe you come out Sunday night
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on December 30, 2012, 02:31:28 AM
And you gotta play dice when we go...nothing better than a hot table. Especially when drunk and the waitresses are coming every three seconds.
do you lose a lot of money in a short period of time at craps....im a rich bitch but i still hate losing a 100 bucks in four minutes....with sports you at least get to watch a three hour game or a half if you do in games....
Yeah you can...but you control your bets...you can low roll it (pass line/odds/one place bet) and just guzzle drinks.
I have gone through $200 in 10 minutes a time or two when I am betting aggressive but then again I have turned $60 into $1300 in 45min.
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on December 30, 2012, 02:31:28 AMMDS - it will be an extended weekend so maybe you come out Sunday night
as long as im still covering txhsfb (which i do enjoy doing...but hopefully get to do it outside of north mexico), its not possible. if i suddenly become a big shot next year and start selling lumber in houston, im IN
or just go in december and ill be there. but there wont be much cfb so i guess that defeats the purpose.
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on December 30, 2012, 02:40:06 AM
Yeah you can...but you control your bets...you can low roll it (pass line/odds/one place bet) and just guzzle drinks.
I have gone through $200 in 10 minutes a time or two when I am betting aggressive but then again I have turned $60 into $1300 in 45min.
meet me at the sports book when you are done
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on December 30, 2012, 02:40:06 AM
Yeah you can...but you control your bets...you can low roll it (pass line/odds/one place bet) and just guzzle drinks.
I have gone through $200 in 10 minutes a time or two when I am betting aggressive but then again I have turned $60 into $1300 in 45min.
That's pretty much what I was doing when I was learning to do play. Pass line/odds then usually one or two of the numbers
Quote from: MDS on December 30, 2012, 02:41:07 AM
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on December 30, 2012, 02:31:28 AMMDS - it will be an extended weekend so maybe you come out Sunday night
as long as im still covering txhsfb (which i do enjoy doing...but hopefully get to do it outside of north mexico), its not possible. if i suddenly become a big shot next year and start selling lumber in houston, im IN
or just go in december and ill be there. but there wont be much cfb so i guess that defeats the purpose.
lol...so you're still locked in during the Sun/Mon/Tues time? We're hiring...come on.
Havas...ain't no sports 24/7...so after we get sloppy on NFL/college then we can go to a low roll joint Casino Royale where they have $5 tables and you can buy in a hundred bucks and be safe
Quote from: Munson on December 30, 2012, 02:42:12 AM
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on December 30, 2012, 02:40:06 AM
Yeah you can...but you control your bets...you can low roll it (pass line/odds/one place bet) and just guzzle drinks.
I have gone through $200 in 10 minutes a time or two when I am betting aggressive but then again I have turned $60 into $1300 in 45min.
That's pretty much what I was doing when I was learning to do play. Pass line/odds then usually one or two of the numbers
Same. Pass + 3-4-5x odds and place 6/8.
Now I will place three numbers and take full odds...and when I shoot I go $81 across and cover them all
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on December 30, 2012, 02:49:04 AMlol...so you're still locked in during the Sun/Mon/Tues time? We're hiring...come on.
1. how much does it pay
2. do i have to know anything about lumber
3. do i have to live in houston
4. can i instead live with igy's rich republican friends in sugar land
i will probably sleep when games end....or go get more loaded and farg something...but i can guarantee i wont be laying money on a table somewhere....i might follow you guys and watch but im tellin you that aint my shtein
1. Depends...six figures is reachable after a few years
2. yes...but i didn't when i started
3. no
4. yes
i sort of want to go now just to needle havas until he throws down 100 bucks on a hand of bj
quit being a jew and have fun you cheap jew
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on December 30, 2012, 02:59:19 AM
1. Depends...six figures is reachable after a few years
2. yes...but i didn't when i started
3. no
4. yes
Lumber (also known as timber) is wood in any of its stages from felling to readiness for use as structural material for construction, or wood pulp for paper production.
am i in?
Quote from: MDS on December 30, 2012, 03:00:08 AM
i sort of want to go now just to needle havas until he throws down 100 bucks on a hand of bj
quit being a jew and have fun you cheap jew
whatever table im jewing will be unjewed on a ball game
Quote from: MDS on December 30, 2012, 03:00:08 AM
i sort of want to go now just to needle havas until he throws down 100 bucks on a hand of bj
quit being a jew and have fun you cheap jew
lol...see we need you.
Imagine a CF reserved table in a sports book? Jesus...i might die that trip
Quote from: MDS on December 30, 2012, 03:01:31 AM
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on December 30, 2012, 02:59:19 AM
1. Depends...six figures is reachable after a few years
2. yes...but i didn't when i started
3. no
4. yes
Lumber (also known as timber) is wood in any of its stages from felling to readiness for use as structural material for construction, or wood pulp for paper production.
am i in?
hired...see you monday
someone needs to be broken out of their gambling shell
a grind it out session at a table can easily be more fun than sitting through a 3 hour game. of course you could go down 200 in 10 seconds. of course you could win 200 in 10 seconds. but most likely youll win some, lose some, drink, yell, curse and a few rolls or hands here or there will decide your fate.
yeah sorry buddy that aint me....im a sports cat.....i dont do cards i do pucks and balls....sports is my life
whats good to know tho is that you will never do either
no youre right i will never do balls
in your defense you are broke.....but it doest change the fact that you have never placed a real bet in your life
Fact: Havas will bet a k on the Skins
Fact: I will bet against the Skins on the same game
Fun times!
Quote from: ice grillin you on December 30, 2012, 03:20:36 AM
in your defense you are broke.....but it doest change the fact that you have never placed a real bet in your life
lol you are the best
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on December 30, 2012, 03:23:20 AM
Fact: Havas will bet a k on the Skins
Fact: I will bet against the Skins on the same game
Fun times!
i have a skins "problem" but dont tell me tomorrow they arent the most free money youve seen in a while
Ya know...I think you're right...over to the betting thread I go to continue this thought
I wish my profession entailed murdering people because you iceholes would be 1, 2 & 3 on the list.
:)
Surely you are dreaming of murdering one of the hippos twice, because the prison guard just doesn't deserve that kind of treatment.
TBF he'd be #3, but you're right, I'd probably just maim him a little for those last three pages.
i thought we all decided to make a trip to vegas for march madness. someone take charge and i'm in.
March Madness seems even better.
Rome, I'm glad to hear I'm not in your top 3. I'm pretty sure I'm not in your top 5. Because you love me so much?
Quote from: phattymatty on December 30, 2012, 12:16:25 PM
i thought we all decided to make a trip to vegas for march madness. someone take charge and i'm in.
cbb sucks.....we are all going for a cfb weekend in the fall
Quote from: phattymatty on December 30, 2012, 12:16:25 PM
i thought we all decided to make a trip to vegas for march madness. someone take charge and i'm in.
I'm 50/50...will know more in Feb
never mind, march madness is the worst. must be a coincidence that it's the best weekend of the year in vegas.
lol...yeah those four days of MM are the best IMO.
Super Bowl weekend is cool but March Madness is king.
cbb is hideous to bet on....there is no better betting sport than cfb...and lol at betting on the superbowl...i cant even remember the last time i did anything on it other than the box pool
in fact i bet i havent even watched five of the last ten superbowls
its truly amazing how cool you are
cause im not going to vegas to bet on cbb?
if i knew thats all it took
just everything...your whole persona
not betting on cbb...blowing cfb...super bowl squares bowl....not watching the super bowl....drinking a lot...
you are so cool man. so cool!
So I interviewed for a full time Air Force gig (AGR). As a newly promoted major with over 12 years it looks like the base pay is $82 grand and with BAH around $99. It would probably be a 5 year tour in Richmond. The state job has to be kept during that time and I come back to it at the same pay and level. This would be a pretty significant increase in pay for me. In the mean time, I am hoping my boss will retire since I can't get promoted until he leaves. Any thoughts?
The state job is safe and secure and no stress. I am definitely in line for promotion as I have been told by all of upper management. Pro-more money and change of duties. Con - possible increased stress and being viewed negatively by current management.
Move on.
I agree. Just because upper management says you're in line for a promotion doesn't mean you're first in line or you're even in the right line. If added stress is the only con, move on because every job should have stress...that's why they call it work and not happy fun time.
Rusty lives in Richmond.
Best friends forever possibilities?
Thanks. It confirms my current thoughts.
Quote from: phillycrew on January 02, 2013, 03:04:40 PM
So I interviewed for a full time Air Force gig (AGR). As a newly promoted major with over 12 years it looks like the base pay is $82 grand and with BAH around $99. It would probably be a 5 year tour in Richmond. The state job has to be kept during that time and I come back to it at the same pay and level. This would be a pretty significant increase in pay for me. In the mean time, I am hoping my boss will retire since I can't get promoted until he leaves. Any thoughts?
The state job is safe and secure and no stress. I am definitely in line for promotion as I have been told by all of upper management. Pro-more money and change of duties. Con - possible increased stress and being viewed negatively by current management.
If you can get an AGR gig, then go for it. I've looked at that as a means of finishing my 20 but every state I've looked at has the same policy that basically says you can't have more than 15 yrs ACDU time accumulated. I've got 17 yrs. I'm sure it's waiverable so if I can find the right position in the right location, I still may throw an application together.
id rather be unemployed than live in richmond
I'm unemployed and don't live in Richmond. Double win.
Quote from: Sgt PSN on January 02, 2013, 05:07:47 PM
Quote from: phillycrew on January 02, 2013, 03:04:40 PM
So I interviewed for a full time Air Force gig (AGR). As a newly promoted major with over 12 years it looks like the base pay is $82 grand and with BAH around $99. It would probably be a 5 year tour in Richmond. The state job has to be kept during that time and I come back to it at the same pay and level. This would be a pretty significant increase in pay for me. In the mean time, I am hoping my boss will retire since I can't get promoted until he leaves. Any thoughts?
The state job is safe and secure and no stress. I am definitely in line for promotion as I have been told by all of upper management. Pro-more money and change of duties. Con - possible increased stress and being viewed negatively by current management.
If you can get an AGR gig, then go for it. I've looked at that as a means of finishing my 20 but every state I've looked at has the same policy that basically says you can't have more than 15 yrs ACDU time accumulated. I've got 17 yrs. I'm sure it's waiverable so if I can find the right position in the right location, I still may throw an application together.
Definitely. There are a bunch of them out there but you may have to consider the Army. Shudder. And IGY, please stay in Maryland.
gladly will
btw have fun in the south
http://wtvr.com/2013/01/08/kkk-rises-in-virginia/
Sometimes my job sucks. In fact a lot of the time it's tedious and just plain awful. There are rare occasions that it's pretty cool and tomorrow is one of those days. We've having our annual "diversity" day, and basically what that means is we prepare traditional fare and have a pot luck brunch during the day. My boss is from Denver so he's bringing Colorado Spare Ribs, another co-worker is from the Eastern Shore, so she's bringing crab cakes, and so on. I made Irish Shepherd's Pie with Yuengling Porter tonight and it is farging spectacular tasting. Seriously, I wish you idiots could taste it because it's that good.
Oh, and we get to wear our football jerseys to work too. Last chance to wear Mike Vick and I'm totally wearing that bitch.
I've clocked between 65-75hrs a week for the last three weeks.
I'm fried.
I am going to get spectacularly drunk tomorrow night.
I have off on Monday (Super Bowl hangovers suck) then I have off next Monday & Tuesday (Flogging Molly Green 17 FTW).
YAY GUBMENT JOBZ!
My job is cool right now because I'm in the middle of the biggest job I've ever taken solo: replacing a 475 square foot pool deck. I'm busted up tired from digging lately, but you jocks might appreciate that it's a good soreness and a good exhaustion. It's nice to work, to be strong and to do things. I'm not always going to be able to do hard labor, or tolerate the elements. It's actually a good time every day lately. I brought my Rottweiler to work with me today. She stayed off the pool cover, which was nice. Smart dogs, Rottweilers.
For the first time in my long life, I get to operate one of our machines today. It will probably be a medium wheel loader and I'm definitely going to dig a ditch with it.
we fired a guy about 3 months who was our in house IT support, safety manager, and document control manager because he did none of those jobs. i inherited his responsibilities and have been rocking that shtein since. i plan on asking for 25% of his salary as a raise because they eliminated a salary, the production in those areas picked up without replacing it. seems fair to me.
did they at least give you a bump when you took over the responsibilties?
negative. they said they would look at it in a few months (which is around now) to see how i handled it. obviously i'm kicking ass.
i also saved the company 1.2M in work that i sub-contracted to other firms because we were so busy last year. nada trickle down on that.
Just quit.
Yep, total horseshtein. My company does the same thing as a matter of standard practice. They dump extra responsibility on you with promises of riches to come. farg that.
Why do you guys act so surprised?
I was thinking the same thing, Chuggie.
Companies have been royally farging over workers since time began. Let me know if you ever find a company that doesn't farg you over because I'll apply for a job there in a heartbeat.
I'm not surprised. Just announcing the plain fact that it is horseshtein.
job open in daytona beach
whether or not i send an application will be based on rome's recommendation
they want someone from the area so no matter what i wont be considered, i just want to throw gramps a bone here
In two weeks, I get to go to Active Shooter Training. Since nobody has guns at work, I bet the training will be concise, stating only, "Call a friend with a gun and pray he gets here in time".
I think it's time for me to legitimize my business....get licensed, form an LLC, etc.
What should I name the company?
Rainbow Construction
Dio's Ditch Diggers, obviously.
ziggys ditchy diggy
and have the symbol be a duck with a collar and leash...people who get it will love it and people who dont will not forget it...automatic name in the streets
also it worked for aflac
Errands Reign Supreme, LLC.
I had an interview for a huge step up in the organization today but didn't get the gig. It came down to me and another guy who, frankly, should have been given a similar position a couple of years ago, but was passed over and he got this job.
I'm disappointed but not nearly as much as I ever expected I would be. This is actually only the second time in my life I was up for a job or promotion and didn't get it.
The second-in-charge called me personally and broke the news. She apologized for not giving me the job and told me not to be discouraged because I'd be at the front of the line for the next one.
Oh, well. Too bad so sad for Romey. :'(
At least it went to someone who you feel at least deserved it (other than yourself) versus some schmuck who brown nosed their way up. It sounds like a good work place where they higher up takes a moment to call you personally.
Tough break, hopefully your fortunes turn in the next opportunity.
Quote from: Sgt PSN on February 23, 2013, 09:45:17 AM
Dio's Ditch Diggers, obviously.
If you're going for obvious, it's gotta be Ditch Bitch.
Quote from: Rome on February 28, 2013, 07:15:42 PM
I had an interview for a huge step up in the organization today but didn't get the gig. It came down to me and another guy who, frankly, should have been given a similar position a couple of years ago, but was passed over and he got this job.
I'm disappointed but not nearly as much as I ever expected I would be. This is actually only the second time in my life I was up for a job or promotion and didn't get it.
The second-in-charge called me personally and broke the news. She apologized for not giving me the job and told me not to be discouraged because I'd be at the front of the line for the next one.
Oh, well. Too bad so sad for Romey. :'(
I'm with you Rome. I thought for sure that I got the AGR position with the Air Force since I was the inside candidate. It went to a lady in Nevada who already does the job. I was able to make peace with it that she already had the experience but I can't hide the disappointment. Oh well, keep working hard and things will open up.
Quote from: SunMo on February 01, 2013, 08:57:01 AM
we fired a guy about 3 months who was our in house IT support, safety manager, and document control manager because he did none of those jobs. i inherited his responsibilities and have been rocking that shtein since. i plan on asking for 25% of his salary as a raise because they eliminated a salary, the production in those areas picked up without replacing it. seems fair to me.
for those that have been waiting for an update on this (no one)...
2 weeks ago I had the weirdest promotion ever. I am told that because of my extra duties and additional responsibilities I am getting a $5k raise. Then, I'm told that the owner of the company wants to put a tracking program on my computer to see what I do online. To me, that is a mixed message. The raise says that I am doing well and am being trusted with additional responsibilities...the computer thing says I don't trust you and I think you are wasting time.
Either way, I'm happy with the increase. I obviously don't go online at work anymore, except for work activities, but with my extra workload I'm not sure I would have had time to screw around, tracker or no tracker.
5k is like a dollar an hour
so hes gonna insult you with a raise that doesnt come close to showing appreciation for the extra work you are doing....and on top of that hes calling you shady and taking away the internet for eight hours of your day
farg him
Don't take the raise...CF is way more more important. I'm serious.
Browse the net from your phone. That's what I do.
Work for yourself. That's what I do.
If Sunny is working the normal 40 hours a week with two weeks off, it's actually an extra $2.50 per hour.
That's not great but it's nothing to get insulted over especially if your wages aren't like IGYbags'.
He gets touchy about how hard he works at the company where Daddy is President, so I'm guessing it's more than 40 hours a week. I'd guess 55 or so.
I'm surprised the company bother to tell him they are tracking his computer activity. Most just do it without telling you.
As is their right, btw.
Hence, I don't work for folks like that.
Quote from: Diomedes on March 12, 2013, 06:16:44 PM
I'm surprised the company bother to tell him they are tracking his computer activity. Most just do it without telling you.
which would be fine....but instead this guy is saying i dont trust YOU and i aint giving you shtein unless we can keep an eye on you...what a fleshpop
Quote from: Rome on March 12, 2013, 06:11:43 PM
If Sunny is working the normal 40 hours a week with two weeks off, it's actually an extra $2.50 per hour.
That's not great but it's nothing to get insulted over especially if your wages aren't like IGYbags'.
its 2.40 and thats before taxes...and i believe sunny has said before he often works more thn 40 hours a week and that was before he got the extra duties
$2.40/hour is definitely something to get insulted over whereas $2.50/hour isn't.
People aren't giving out raises these days, so actually getting one is a fairly big deal. Again, not for everyone, but for a lot of us an extra $5,000/year would be fantastic.
I don't believe I've gotten $5K in raises in the last decade.
The only way for us to get raises is to be promoted. We had a 3% COLA two years ago and that was it since 2007. We also had money taken from us by Rick Scott for his feeble-minded retirement scheme and then the 2% SSI break expired. So basically unless you've gotten a promotion you're actually making less now than 2007. Which is nice.
Quote from: Rome on March 12, 2013, 07:52:08 PM
The only way for us to get raises is to be promoted. We had a 3% COLA two years ago and that was it since 2007. We also had money taken from us by Rick Scott for his feeble-minded retirement scheme and then the 2% SSI break expired. So basically unless you've gotten a promotion you're actually making less now than 2007. Which is nice.
I may be right there with you. I was hit by Scott's COLA as well, and with the State Supreme Court upholding it, I wouldn't be surprised if they go for an addition hit on our pay.
I encourage you Florida people to quit your jobs and go on the dole. Stop paying your mortgages, convert all of your assets to cash, and when they finally kick you out for not paying...move back north to Civilization again.
LOL at "feeble-minded," perfect phrasing for that man.
Corbett is going after state pensions in PA now too
Well if you don't get settle for MD...skip PA and NJ until you get further north.
Quote from: Rome on March 12, 2013, 07:08:53 PM
$2.40/hour is definitely something to get insulted over whereas $2.50/hour isn't.
People aren't giving out raises these days, so actually getting one is a fairly big deal. Again, not for everyone, but for a lot of us an extra $5,000/year would be fantastic.
after taxes its like a tank of gas a week...certainly a nice little get....but for someone who works his ass off for more than 40 hrs a week doesnt get overtime took the responsibilities of another full time position which was never filled opening up a salaries worth of payroll its a complete and utter insult to get offered that and only get it offered if its attached to an accusation of being untrustworthy as a person and an employee
First, does the computer they want to install this software on belong to the computer? If so, I'm surprised they don't already do it, it's not abnormal.
That being said, if they only apply the monitoring to you, you may have an HR complaint.
So...things have gotten pretty intolerable at my job. I'm now trying to "manage projects," rather than doing anything creative or interesting. I have several activities that would otherwise BE a full-time job, and I'm having trouble getting it all done. To top it off, the new management in my group is putting pressure on top of pressure, and if I don't get fired soon, I might just voluntarily walk after 25 years on the job.
A this point, I don't care if I have to work 2 or 3 part time gigs to pay the bills. If I stay where I am, I will need to check into either a mental ward or a morgue.
Farg the man.
Quit. Tell them they can hire you back as a contractor/consultant, set your rate high enough to make it worth your while, and enjoy some time off before they come crawling back to you.
Thanks...that does sound like a nice idea, but they can't pay me enough to deal with the shtein they're handing me.
Christ, that's bad. 25 years and this...sorry man.
Yeah sorry to hear that man. I assume you've voiced your concerns only to be stonewalled by middle management?
That's what happens to me. I've begged for help and I'm clocking 65-80hrs a week and its going to kill me.
I haven't yelled up the org chart at this point, but I know that management 1 and 2 levels above my boss are pretty much all on the same page. I tried to meet with my HR rep, but he hasn't responded yet. From what I hear, he's pretty tight with management, as well, so I don't know how much it would help.
Good luck man. If you do run it up the chain hopefully you'll have someone who genuinely listens to your concerns. 25yrs is a lot of time and equity in a place and I'd hate to see that to away
Passed my six sigma black belt exam today, so I'm officially certifiable.
The plan is to call off sick tomorrow, takes a week vacation, and turn in my notice on the Monday I return.
Farg them all.
Nice.
this sus job stuff may be better suited for the mass shootings thread....seems headed that way
Nah...those fargers aren't worth the effort.
I completely feel that particular pain, Sus. Not that it helps.
I remember about 3 or 4 weeks before I got out, my unit was conducting a pistol range. I wanted to go shoot for the simple fact that I enjoy shooting and it was going to be my last opportunity to get on a military range. The morning of I was told to leave because the CO was out there and he didn't feel comfortable with me handling live rounds. Farging puss.
Quote from: Susquehanna Birder on March 21, 2013, 01:19:19 PMPassed my six sigma black belt exam today, so I'm officially certifiable.
The plan is to call off sick tomorrow, takes a week vacation, and turn in my notice on the Monday I return.
Congrats on both counts and good luck.
Quote from: Susquehanna Birder on March 21, 2013, 01:19:19 PM
Passed my six sigma black belt exam today, so I'm officially certifiable.
The plan is to call off sick tomorrow, takes a week vacation, and turn in my notice on the Monday I return.
Farg them all.
Good luck man.
I'd love to hear your account of how it goes when you give notice.
I'll definitely report in.
I think the boss is bipolar. Some days she is a total pain, and other days she is really nice. Today was a nice day, because I told her that I passed my exam (a week ahead of the deadline). I almost feel bad that I'm going to disappoint her.
Almost.
I just went and looked up six sigma; Very disappointed to learn that it's a business management scheme and not an obscure oriental fighting discipline.
Quote from: Diomedes on March 22, 2013, 05:46:47 AM
I just went and looked up six sigma; Very disappointed to learn that it's a business management scheme and not an obscure oriental fighting discipline.
Haha....I thought the same thing until his last post when he said his boss was happy about him passing ahead of schedule. I was really hoping that Sus was turning into some sort of ninja and that he was going to murderdeathkill everyone at work with his bare hands. And maybe a sword or something.
Actually, I do now hold a teaching certification for tai chi. And I have practiced with sword and spear, as well as several bare hand forms.
Quote from: Susquehanna Birder on March 21, 2013, 01:19:19 PM
Passed my six sigma black belt exam today, so I'm officially certifiable.
The plan is to call off sick tomorrow, takes a week vacation, and turn in my notice on the Monday I return.
Farg them all.
Do you have something else lined up? If not, why not just stay and put in minimal effort while you job search? I guess it must be a pretty bad situation.
That's pretty much what I've been doing. I've been hoping that they see me as dead wood and decide to lay me off. That way I'd get some severance pay at least.
But it hasn't worked. I just get lots more pressure, with threats and continual progress reports and workload status meetings. The whole thing is a pile of stressful crap, and I just want to get off the merry-go-round. And when I leave, I can go on my wife's health insurance, so that's not a problem.
I do have some things lining up right now. And if it all falls through, I'd be happily self employed, using my photography to help pay the bills.
Quote from: Susquehanna Birder on March 22, 2013, 01:01:03 PM
That's pretty much what I've been doing. I've been hoping that they see me as dead wood and decide to lay me off. That way I'd get some severance pay at least.
But it hasn't worked. I just get lots more pressure, with threats and continual progress reports and workload status meetings. The whole thing is a pile of stressful crap, and I just want to get off the merry-go-round. And when I leave, I can go on my wife's health insurance, so that's not a problem.
I do have some things lining up right now. And if it all falls through, I'd be happily self employed, using my photography to help pay the bills.
Good for you. Good luck.
Quote from: Sgt PSN on March 22, 2013, 07:58:49 AMI was really hoping that Sus was turning into some sort of ninja and that he was going to murderdeathkill everyone at :CF with his bare hands. And maybe a sword or something.
I am also disappointed.
Something is seriously wrong with this country when a successful, intelligent & productive worker gets royally farged up the ass after a quarter of a century in the same company.
Nuke 'em all to hell, I say.
Health care premiums on his old ass are too damn high, cutting into profits for shareholders and multi-millionaire execs...gotta make the place so lousy he won't stay. Happens every day.
Hence the nuke em all comment.
It's a sign when the "HR rep" is now called "HR Business Partner." It pretty much confirms who their primary concern is.
so apparently its unethical for me to take tickets, air fare and hotel from csn houston in exchange for a story on their terrible network nobody has.
maybe. sure. i dont know. all i know is im out a night on the town on someone elses dime and that doesnt sit well with a jew
background: the offer was a knee jerk reaction to this -- http://blog.chron.com/sportsmedia/2013/03/mayor-parker-says-csn-houston-carriage-dispute-intolerable-for-fans-taxpayers/
so to recap, companies would rather wine and dine media than service consumers.
Ha..Gotta love Comcast.
Well, I gave my two weeks notice on Monday. She seemed surprised that I was leaving so quickly, but I don't think she was surprised that I was leaving. She seemed like she was happy for me. There was not even a hint of how things could change to retain me (I probably wouldn't stay anyway, but the thought would have been nice).
My main task now is to organize my activities so that they can be handed off to some other poor schmuck(s). I'm fine with that, but somehow I feel like I'm abandoning my coworkers. I suppose I'll get over it once I see this farging place in my rear-view mirror for the last time.
I'm close to getting a short term contract job, so that's a positive. If it doesn't happen, I'll just have to double my efforts to find something to cover the bills for a while. Thankfully I can go on the wife's health insurance, so I can even work a couple of part-time gigs if necessary. At least I'll be struggling on my own terms, rather than having to take the daily ration of crap from my "superior."
I heard from the job recruiter. I got the job, and I start on the 15th. :evil
Congrats and enjoy your two weeks of FUnemployment
Awesome, Sus. I'll enjoy that vicariously.
Quote from: Susquehanna Birder on April 03, 2013, 12:22:51 PM
I heard from the job recruiter. I got the job, and I start on the 15th. :evil
Fanfargingtastic. Glad to hear it.
Now try not to think about why you took so long to get out.
Quote from: Susquehanna Birder on April 03, 2013, 12:22:51 PM
I heard from the job recruiter. I got the job, and I start on the 15th. :evil
Congrats man!
When you win, we all win. Good job. Pun?
Quote from: Diomedes on April 03, 2013, 05:20:23 PM
Now try not to think about why you took so long to get out.
(http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/cultureshock/flashpoints/theater/images/clockwork_big.jpg)
Good luck, you'll probably be a lot happier not to mention healthier. Long term job stress can bring people down, especially as you get older. Good to get out of it.
Congrats, Sus. :yay
So I finally got my raise today. It took several months of negotiation and back and forth but after doing almost two million in sales the last two months that was my hammer to nail this down. My sales partner and I handle the biggest account in the company and we've not only maintained the account but grown it.
I get paid a percentage of the gross profit sold each month. And the bump in commission percentage comes out to about $22k more a year.
I may hate Houston but this helps make the decision to stay worth it.
Big ups to phreak tonight for getting his! (Standing-O)
Thanks man.
I planted the seed of a raise in October and really started pushing in February. I began to think about looking elsewhere in the field, perhaps as a vendor so I could live wherever in Texas (would have picked San Antonio) and travel a lot. But glad I didn't have to pursue other routes as I really dig this company.
My buddy started a new job in West Chester about a month ago. He just told me he works with a chick named Vanilla Dong.
does he work for vivid video?
Nah, why, is there another Vanilla Dong in southeast PA?
There's one in my pants. Does that count?
if you go on bing.com today their background picture is my company's NJ 9/11 memorial. pretty cool
that is the first time I've ever looked at bing.com
try duck duck go
it has full privacy...no one tracks your searches.....no ads...no bullshtein
and its philly born and raised
Quote from: SunMo on September 11, 2013, 09:59:18 AM
if you go on bing.com today their background picture is my company's NJ 9/11 memorial. pretty cool
Nice....what material is that made from?
1/4" stainless steel sheet
Think about that for a moment. Quarter inch stainless. That is a lot of stainless. Panels are what size? Weigh how much each? That material isn't exactly easy to work, either.
a standard sheet on there was 4' x 8'
so that's about 375# each
we built them in assemblies in the shop the full height of the wall and set them with a crane in the field.
https://www.dropbox.com/sh/wrb5sybedqxc55g/knv8PcTN2k
here is an album we submitted to NOMA (National Ornamental and Misc Metals Association) and won 2nd place for top job of 2011. it shows the process of how we did the job.
How much does three hundred seventy five pounds of stainless cost? I practically have to take out a loan to buy stainless nails for fencing jobs. I can't imagine.
Pic #40 is pretty god damned awesome.
Quote from: SunMo on September 11, 2013, 09:59:18 AM
if you go on bing.com today their background picture is my company's NJ 9/11 memorial. pretty cool
Nice job Sunny. Looks good.
Quote from: Diomedes on September 11, 2013, 12:51:49 PM
How much does three hundred seventy five pounds of stainless cost? I practically have to take out a loan to buy stainless nails for fencing jobs. I can't imagine.
i think it's about $3.50 per lb or so. so figure $1300 per panel on the wall. not including polish (which had to be invented) and the etching on the panels with names
that's cool shtein...total cost for that job?
i'm not sure....i know we made a little money when it was all said and done so that was a plus
I've been offered a management job with a shipping/trucking company. Salary is pretty good (it's literally my bottom line for a salary I'd accept) and the benefits package seems to be pretty standard....so not great, but not terrible either. Is it pretty normal for people to try and negotiate for a higher salary or improved benefits before accepting a position or would I run the risk of having the offer pulled completely?
Yeah, it's normal to negotiate before signing on. There's always a possibility that they could pull the offer, but unless you make unreasonable demands I don't think you should worry about it. Prospective employees have the most leverage before they accept - I've seen too many people accept a job with the company's promise that they'll review pay within 6 months or a year or whatever, and it never happens. If they really want you, they'll play along as long as you're not making some ridiculous demands.
Cool. I told them I'd call back today with my answer so I'll see if I can get them to bump the salary up a little bit, or at a minimum, guarantee a pay raise after 6 months.
Thanks.
Just got off the phone with them and didn't make any progress in negotiating for better pay because they said that the salary they've offered me is the absolute ceiling for starting salary with this position. But they also said that they offered me the max salary right off the bat because they really do want me to get my foot in the door and gain some inside experience so that I can move up quickly. No idea if they're blowing smoke up my ass or not, but I met with 3 different people during the interview process and all seemed to be very impressed with me and I didn't get the feeling that I was being hoodwinked. Then again, I haven't worked in the civilian world since 1998 so wtf do I know?
I'd have liked a little more money but it's not the be all, end all. I think the opportunity for advancement will be there for me once I get some experience working with DOT regs and unions. Not to mention that there are very few jobs in my area that are going to pay me what these guys are offering, so it's not like they're paying me scraps. I'll be making more money most dual income families in my area.
So yeah....I took the job and start Nov 1. All in all, I'm looking forward to it. It's been a great 14 months on funemployment - learned how to do a lot of home repair, put almost 4k miles on my bike this summer, got to spend a lot of time with family that I haven't seen much of over the last 18 years, and got pretty good at X-box, but I guess it's time to rejoin the work force and let someone else have my Obama bucks.
local shipping or nationwide?
You going to give back your ObamaPhone?
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on October 23, 2013, 01:49:22 PM
local shipping or nationwide?
They do both, but the hub I'll be working out of doesn't have overnight routes.
Quote from: Seabiscuit36 on October 23, 2013, 01:52:53 PM
You going to give back your ObamaPhone?
Nope. It came with Barry's number programmed on speed dial so I'm keeping that one all for myself.
Quote from: phillycrew
is it a kenyan area code?
Quote from: Sgt PSN on October 23, 2013, 02:08:51 PM
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on October 23, 2013, 01:49:22 PM
local shipping or nationwide?
They do both, but the hub I'll be working out of doesn't have overnight routes.
Quote from: Seabiscuit36 on October 23, 2013, 01:52:53 PM
You going to give back your ObamaPhone?
Nope. It came with Barry's number programmed on speed dial so I'm keeping that one all for myself.
Welcome back to Satan's knob. Start polishing and start working so they can make Obamacare work.
Quote from: ice grillin you on October 23, 2013, 02:11:55 PM
Quote from: phillycrew
is it a kenyan area code?
I've been lol'ing about this for 20min
How many weeks of vacation do you get? Instead of asking for more money like a greedy motherfarger maybe you could have gotten another week of vacay
Or instead of asking for cliche things demand the bosses parking spot. It's an alpha male thing. Goes a long way toward establishing yourself.
Just be thankful you got a job where a hair net wasn't a part of the required uniform.
Maybe he wants to wear a hair net whilst dispatching Large Marge to pick up a load of blow up dolls?
Quote from: Tomahawk on October 23, 2013, 10:06:19 PM
How many weeks of vacation do you get? Instead of asking for more money like a greedy motherfarger maybe you could have gotten another week of vacay
I start out with a week (40 hrs), but don't get that until I've been with them for 1 year. I thought about negotiating for more vacation time but I figured that if I'm still with them in 1 year and haven't been promoted and don't get the feeling that a promotion is coming, then I'll be looking for a new job anyway so it wouldn't really be worth the trouble to negotiate for something that I may not even use. Guess I could have tried to get the vacation time to kick in after 6mo or something, but I didn't think of it at the time. Oh well.....learning has occurred.
Quote from: Sgt PSN on October 24, 2013, 07:07:33 AM
Quote from: Tomahawk on October 23, 2013, 10:06:19 PM
How many weeks of vacation do you get? Instead of asking for more money like a greedy motherfarger maybe you could have gotten another week of vacay
I start out with a week (40 hrs), but don't get that until I've been with them for 1 year.
holy shtein is that awful.....is that sop in the private sector?
Seems to be fairly standard in comparison to other jobs I interviewed for. It definitely sucks, especially coming from the military where I had 30 days every year plus unlimited sick days. The time off with this company is called Paid Time Off (PTO) which means that I'm using it for any reason.....vacation, sick day, taking an hour off for a Dr appt, whatever. It's in line with what most other jobs around here are offering.
I'm not crazy about it, but it's the best offer/opportunity I've got so far and I'm really just ready to get back to work. I more or less milked the system for a year, so I'm good.
if im doing the math right that means any new employee will have one week of vacation over the next two years?
that seems ridiculous
Exactly, and yeah....it's ridiculous but I guess I gotta start somewhere. And the civilian world sucks balls in comparison to the feds or even state gov't when it comes to benefits. Any time I take off during the 1st year is considered unpaid time off, so if I've got a Dr appt or something, they just won't pay me for the time that I'm not at work. And this particular company only matches 10% of what you put into a 401K. Luckily, that's not an issue for me because I've been sinking a shteinload of money over the last 10 years into retirement accounts on my own, but that's awful for Joe Schmoe who is relying on a 401K for retirement.
im not comparing it to the govt....thats obviously not fair
i even understand a probationary period before you accrue any leave but one week in two years seems agregious
It is. But we're talking about an industry/company that primarily makes it's money on truck drivers, who, let's face it, aren't exactly the most intelligent people out there. And when you consider that I'm starting out in a managment position and get pretty crappy vacation benefits, I can't even imagine how awful the benefits are for the drivers, who are paid also hourly wages instead of salary.
yeah for real if thats what management gets the drivers have to basically be modern day slaves
how many years do you have to work until you get two weeks a year......and can you carry over weeks?
My company is sort of the same except they didn't make us wait a year to get our 1wk vacation.
I just hit my 6yrs and got 3 weeks.
However they also try to pull the PTO scheme where if we need a sick day it should come from our vacation. Luckily I have a boss who doesn't hit us for that. Need a day or two - take a day or two and vacation stays intact.
I forget exactly how the progression goes, but for the position I've been hired for I can earn a max of 3 weeks/120 hrs per year within 4 years. If I get promoted (to the position I actually applied for), there's additional time off that comes with it and I'll get 4 weeks/160 hrs per year within 4 years. Had I been hired for the position I applied for, I'd have 1 week available to me after 6mo and a 2nd week after 1 year.
No sick time until the first year is up is laughable.
Keep looking Sassy.
my vacation is capped at 3 weeks, but all new hires are being capped at 2 weeks which sucks. in fact, the owner wanted to take a week from people who had 3 but thankfully he was talked out of it
Quote from: SunMo on October 24, 2013, 09:45:16 AM
my vacation is capped at 3 weeks, but all new hires are being capped at 2 weeks which sucks. in fact, the owner wanted to take a week from people who had 3 but thankfully he was talked out of it
Isn't your dad the owner? Or does he hold some other high ranking position?
That's nutty.
I had a conversation with the cornerstore clerk this morning. He's from India and we were talking about how the US leads the world in people working for long periods without vacation. Other countries believe in vacations and not murdering their workers.
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on October 24, 2013, 10:10:47 AM
I had a conversation with the cornerstore clerk this morning. He's from India and we were talking about how the US leads the world in people working for long periods without vacation. Other countries believe in vacations and not murdering their workers.
lol...im pretty sure india shouldnt be held up as some beacon of workers rights....a factory collapses or burns to the ground every other month over there.....and theres a reason we farm out thousands of job to them....and its not because of the superior working conditions
Quote from: Sgt PSN on October 24, 2013, 10:06:26 AM
Quote from: SunMo on October 24, 2013, 09:45:16 AM
my vacation is capped at 3 weeks, but all new hires are being capped at 2 weeks which sucks. in fact, the owner wanted to take a week from people who had 3 but thankfully he was talked out of it
Isn't your dad the owner? Or does he hold some other high ranking position?
he's president. he's one of the ones that helped talk the owner out of it
Got it. Good on him because I'm pretty sure that if the owner started taking away vacation from people, he'd have either been looking to replace half of his workforce or would have had a major lawsuit on his hands.
Quote from: ice grillin you on October 24, 2013, 10:17:30 AM
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on October 24, 2013, 10:10:47 AM
I had a conversation with the cornerstore clerk this morning. He's from India and we were talking about how the US leads the world in people working for long periods without vacation. Other countries believe in vacations and not murdering their workers.
lol...im pretty sure india shouldnt be held up as some beacon of workers rights....a factory collapses or burns to the ground every other month over there.....and theres a reason we farm out thousands of job to them....and its not because of the superior working conditions
Yeah pretty sure he wasn't talking about the sweatshop people.
Just like in Peru - they get 4wks off the bat and then they have a shtein load of holidays.
I sat next to an American chick on a flight once and she married a British dude. She moved to London and they own a McDonald's there. Brits working in Mickey D's get 4 weeks when they start.
that's insane
i wonder what japan gets. not anything close to that, i'm sure.
Japanese workers do it for the honor.
western europe does it right.....the rest of the world not so much
you can say that again...my colleagues in Gosselies work 35 hours a week and have at least a month and a half of vacation.
Quote from: Sgt PSN on October 24, 2013, 10:21:50 AM
Got it. Good on him because I'm pretty sure that if the owner started taking away vacation from people, he'd have either been looking to replace half of his workforce or would have had a major lawsuit on his hands.
Or there would be some message board outrage. Outrage I say.
what are these vacation days everyone is talking about?
They're those multi-week periods of time throughout the year that you don't remember.
Quote from: phattymatty on October 24, 2013, 01:36:22 PM
what are these vacation days everyone is talking about?
they're called work days, matt.
1 month into my new job and I don't hate it yet, so I guess that's good. But my immediate supervisor is pretty incompetant and a total spaz. He used to do my job and whenever I ask him questions, he tells me he doesn't know and that he never had to do it when he was in my position. So I spend a lot of time on the phone with one of our other offices getting the answers I need because he's such a tool. On the plus side, I found out that I was drastically misinformed about vacation time. I get 2 weeks, not 1, and I can start using vacation after 90 days instead of 1 year.
The company itself seems like its good to its employees because I've met/talked with a lot of people who have been with them 10+ years, but the site I'm at is definitely a bit of a shteinehole. No biggie though since I'm only using this job to get the DOT knowledge I need before applying to higher positions...either with this company or another. Sassy don't give a shtein either way. It's all about the Benjamins baby.
One of my responsibilities is to make sure our drivers are aware of their schedule for the next day, so I send them their schedules via text message. Been doing it that way since I started because it's much quicker and easier than calling them. My boss just found out about it the other day and told me that since I'm using my personal cell for work, the company is going to throw me an extra $50/month to pay the bill. Nice.
Last week we had a driver get injured in Quakertown and had to go to the ER, so we had to get another driver down there to get in the truck and finish the route. I volunteered to drive someone down and got reimbursed 50 cents per mile + $50 for fuel + $25 for tolls and food. $215 total for 5 hrs of driving. Not too shabby.
My buddy's Dad is a driver for a large car dealership chain here in Florida. Say someone needs a Honda Accord in Clearwater. That dealership will call the local one here and the driver will take that car to Clearwater and bring another back in return to Daytona. He gets paid $100 each way and gets per diem for meals. If he has to stay overnight they pay his hotel and ancillary expenses. All he does is drive brand new cars all over the state. Talk about a great gig for a single guy.
Been offered a job out in KC and I am waiting to hear from a job in Northern VA by the end of the week. I am looking forward to the change in both job and city. Richmond is a good place for a family but I am ready for a change.
ETA: Accepted the job in NOVA. Looking to move to Winchester if anyone knows anything about that area.
My company is kind of stingy when it comes to travel pay. I'm in KC (go figure) for 2 weeks because the previous project manager basically ran this place into the ground. They need the most help on their overnight shift from 8pm-6am, which is fine, but I figured that such crappy hours would be worth a few extra greenbacks. Nope. The pay is a 10% increase while I'm out here +$45/day for food.... which is what they give everyone while traveling. An extra 10% hardly seems worth it, but I'm also being looked at for a promotion right now, so if I get that, then maybe I'll stop bitching about the travel pay.
They're sending all the employees (about 75% from my office...not me) who can't make their numbers to a remedial class down in West Virginia. It's at some compound, every one I've spoken to says it blows. $0 for per diem, they serve your food cafeteria style, the rooms are like dorms, and there ain't shtein to do...plus they had issues with bed bugs.
I can't believe middle and upper management in a government agency is treating their employees like shtein.
Welcome to the real world
yeah in general you are teflon in the govt......im in a union which protects me even more than a non bargaining unit employee but if my work tried to send me on a trip like sd is talking about id say farg off im not going and they wouldn't do a damn thing about it
you might not always make as much in the govt.....but the benefits job security and workplace conditions are untouchable
Our union is utterly useless...I won't give them a dime. People who can't make their points are being sent so our agency can cover their ass when the same people can't make production.., that way they can say "we offered you help" when they firs them. A bunch of us had to go to a meeting today...they're pulling the highest producers from each team and making a super team to end the backlog. It's effective immediately. Really not thrilled with the change but tough shtein.
Good. Maybe my claim will finally be processed.
What is it that makes people-especially women-think that being cheerful masks incompetence? Since you're really nice and use a Disney voice in your phone calls, it's okay that you suck?
When this one called last night I answered, not knowing it was her. Lady, you're interrupting my dinner. Me angry work man now. We'll talk about your farged up project tomorrow, when I'm getting paid to listen to your shtein.
Quote from: Diomedes on June 10, 2014, 06:29:32 AM
What is it that makes people-especially women-think that being cheerful masks incompetence? Since you're really nice and use a Disney voice in your phone calls, it's okay that you suck?
This x infinity. I'm in KC right now because our operation out here is a disaster and the operations manager (female) literally doesn't have a clue what is going on. Practically every question I ask her is answered with "I don't know." I think the only reason she hasn't been fired yet is because the project manager out here was even worse.
I really shouldn't single her out because no one out here wants to take ownership of anything to try and fix it, but she's the boss (for now) and attitude reflects leadership. If "I don't know" is good enough for her, then it's going to be good enough for everyone else. I'd love to stay longer to help right this ship, but this is probably a 6mo rebuilding project and I just can't give up that kind of time right now... Not unless there's a major promotion or bonus in it for me.
Quote from: Diomedes on June 10, 2014, 06:29:32 AM
What is it that makes people-especially women-think that being cheerful masks incompetence? Since you're really nice and use a Disney voice in your phone calls, it's okay that you suck?
When this one called last night I answered, not knowing it was her. Lady, you're interrupting my dinner. Me angry work man now. We'll talk about your farged up project tomorrow, when I'm getting paid to listen to your shtein.
Because they know if they act bitchy then you'll dismiss them even quicker. Catch more flies with honey theory, I 'spose.
I'm anxiously awaiting SD's input before I decide where I fall on this.
Met with her this morning. Nice lady, yadda yadda ya. shtein's farged up, she' not able to answer my questions. Has to take it to a committee of other know-nothings (no, not them Geo,) and bat it around for a while. Me? Oh right, guy with truck, tools muscles and brains...yeah, farg you. You're done for the day. 2 hours, feed your family on that.
But hey, everyone is being really nice to each other. Maybe my bank will take that in lieu of the mortgage.
lol salty Dio is funny.
Quote from: Sgt PSN on June 03, 2014, 05:04:13 AM
Good. Maybe my claim will finally be processed.
So here's the lowdown. The undersecretary of the va came to our office a few weeks ago. The week before she shows they discover 5000 claims that were past due and never worked. In other words someone in the front office farged up. So the undersecretary goes through the inventory and tells them "fix this, I don't care his you do it"...so they took thd top producers from each team to fix the problem. They tried lying to us bug thd truth finally leaked. Hope your claim gets finished soon. If its been pending longer than a year you can throw a fit and they'll bend over backwards to get it done st this point.
I got promoted and transferred to my local district office a while back and it's been absolutely glorious. My boss and colleagues are amazing, my commute went from 35-45 minutes each way to 10 each way, and the autonomy I have in this office is 180 degrees better than the last district. My new director is roughly the same age as me, but started 4 years before I did, hence the advancement he had thru the department. He basically gave me an entire area to do and said hit it, no questions asked. Amazing. He even made a point to say "thank you" to me in a department meeting after I came in early from the other district to help out.
When you add the raise and gas savings each week my raise was about 20 percent too. I know it's easier to bitch about your job, and trust me, I hated mine for a long time, but I'm a lucky son of a bitch right now. I hope it lasts...
In a week you'll be transferred to some shteinhole. See what being happy gets you pal?!
I seriously doubt it. But yeah, I'll probably get shipped off across the county and given cows to count.
I left my past job in May. Today my old boss contacted me, realizing that payroll messed up and over the past year I was shorted a lot of money. A check is now on the way.
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You put her ass to sleep?
Good on your ex-boss for letting you know. I am shocked that the company didn't just keep it. If it was run by Republicans then you know damn well they'd keep it.
Congress made a 'surprise' visit last week. They were talking to all of us. Some shtein is about to go down.
What did you do now, SD
Quote from: SD on July 07, 2014, 08:39:06 PM
Congress made a 'surprise' visit last week. They were talking to all of us. Some shtein is about to go down.
And here it is:
http://mobile.philly.com/news/?wss=/philly/news/homepage/&id=266958401#4xhvdL73GZE7q8rc.01
QuoteRuell said the practice of doctoring claim dates stems from staff being rated on performance through a point system and expected to process claims "perfect and fast."
"It's like a system designed to fail," she said. "So it breeds a lot of issues where people are trying to play tricks to look good for Washington."
Read more at http://www.philly.com/philly/news/20140714_Report__Philly_VA_benefits_center_is_in_stunning_disarray.html#Abdok62GSCJcj0B5.99
shtein hit the fan at my office this past week, the Congressional visit I mentioned earlier turned into a huge fiasco. Our Director who took over last Friday has already been shtein canned.
Here's the 5 hour hearing before the congressional VA committee
http://www.c-span.org/video/?c4503593/va-hearing
Here's the high lights of what went down on my floor
http://www.philly.com/philly/news/20140716_Congressman__Philly_VA_leaders_wanted_to_bug__ignore_his_staff_on_an_unannounced_visit.html
QuoteAs they waited in a conference room for an administrator to greet them, one staffer got up to use the restroom, Miller said. Near the bathroom's sinks, the staffer found a yellow spiral notebook with the words "ask ignore Rory" - referencing the committee's staff director, Rory Riley - scribbled half way down the page.
Miller said the notebook belonged to Filipov, now the center's assistant director, who met with the congressional staff moments later. Filipov wrote the notes during an earlier conversation that morning with Rubens, who at the time was the Veterans Benefits Administration undersecretary for field operations.
Miller believes Rubens instructed Filipov to ignore his team's requests for information.
"The acting director was in possession of a note upon which was written ignore my staff. Am I surprised? No. Actually I'm shocked," Miller said at Monday's hearing.
The note also included two comments beside Riley's name: "arrogance" and "stick up her ass."
At the top of the paper were written and circled the last names of two whistle-blowers from the Philadelphia office, Ryan Cease and Kristen Ruell.
QuoteCongressional staff on an unannounced visit to the Philadelphia Veterans Affairs regional office July 2 were given work space in a room wired with an active microphone and camera, according to the chairman of the House Committee on Veterans Affairs.
Holy shtein how does that get so screwed up? What is the fix? How do they do it?
My disability claim was finally processed. Got the notification 2 weeks ago....90% disabled, which is going to pay me a very comparable amount each month to what my pension would have been had I been able to put in the full 20 yrs.
I was also offered a promotion last week and accepted the offer on Monday, so now I'm the Transportation & Operations Manager. Decent bump in pay, not a lot of additional responsibility, but most importantly, I'm moving from nights to days.
Oh, and the feds dorked up on my tax return and I finally got my refund a few days ago. These last 2 weeks have been excellent for my wallet.
just got work at home approved for fridays....its so on
yay unions!
:flipoff
Quote from: ice grillin you on August 11, 2014, 11:13:30 AM
just got work at home approved for fridays....its so on
yay unions!
I'm on my way...too. Gf already works mwf from home.
you're trying to work from home with your gf? calm down bro.
three days at home you obviously have to actually work....fridays at home means i will average approx. 15 minutes of work
Quote from: phattymatty on August 11, 2014, 12:35:30 PM
you're trying to work from home with your gf? calm down bro.
lol
I've been on my employers wfh program for years. Internet and phone gets paid as part of my office expenses. I hate part time WFH's because they take the same viewpoint you're already gearing up for. I was the same way when i first got the opportunity to work a day here and a day there. Corporate wise, most are pulling away from it now despite the # of studies showing how well it works, the problems that arise from people abusing it ruin it for the masses.
The most productive women in my office works 4 days out of the week from home. She is a total outlier. Responds to emails in heart beat, always ahead of her work. Clients love her, 90% of them have no clue she isn't in the office everyday. She had a baby 3 years ago and has been doing the work from home thing ever since then.
I dated a girl that was working from home once and I wouldn't say that was a good deal for the company she was working for. The girl had the most dexterous little hands I have ever encountered. Great at typing insanely fast/playing the piano and doing other stuff.
Congrats on working from home IGGY. I am sure you will be equally as productive there.
yep, ZERO chance gov. workers will ever milk the system much less announce they will on CF.
I used to be outside sales which allowed some work from home days...I farging miss those days. Now unless they send me to a mill or different city's branch its all about the cubicle life.
If I wasn't so indifferent to the opinions of you shteinheads I might take offense at some of the anti-goverment wisecracks here.
I'm on vacation again today and I only have three more weeks of it left until the end of the year, so I'll just say bite me and move on.
spend my money well romey.
jerk.
As usual I'll spend 90% of it on women and Irish whiskey and the rest I'll waste.
Quote from: Rome on August 11, 2014, 04:23:11 PM
I'm on vacation again today and I only have three more weeks of it left until the end of the year, so I'll just say bite me and move on.
same here....ive only taken two days of annual the whole year....got 18 days left to use before jan 1
LOL, Holy shtein guys. You're the exact reason the tea party shteinheads go wild about government spending. Enjoy it while you can.
Quote from: phattymatty on August 11, 2014, 12:35:30 PM
you're trying to work from home with your gf? calm down bro.
I requested Tuesday and Thursday...obviously
I haven't had a paid day off in what, 7 years, 8 years?
It's the way to go. No work, no pay. But the flip side is, I don't owe anyone shtein. You want me to do something, pay me, and we'll do it on my schedule. Stay late? Not for free, thank you. Work weekends.? It's gonna cost you a lot.
Fair and square.
First day back from my 72-day weekend.
Nice.
72 days off...then 72 hour weeks for ten months. Lucky you.
Also, we need a history thread. And maybe a Civil War thread of its own too.
I'll get right on that.
Quote from: Seabiscuit36 on August 11, 2014, 05:22:49 PM
LOL, Holy shtein guys. You're the exact reason the tea party shteinheads go wild about government spending. Enjoy it while you can.
You realize the government is open for business whether I'm there or not, right? We have roughly 240 operational days in my department and I get 10% of them off. I don't have to take the time and I can allow it to accrue up to roughly 100 days before I start losing it. And any time someone wants to try doing what I do or dealing with ignorant ass motherfargers who've never taken a civics class in their life, please, be my guest. I guarantee you'll be singing a different tune once you've sat in my seat.
PS: Not ripping you here, dude. Just dropping some knowledge for everyone's benefit.
People who bitch about our government employees and programs have never been to a country where corruption and incompetence are truly an issue.
People who tout our government employees and programs have never been to Northern Europe.
Quote from: Diomedes on August 11, 2014, 07:50:15 PM
72 days off...then 72 hour weeks for ten months. Lucky you.
Also, we need a history thread. And maybe a Civil War thread of its own too.
I'll get right on that.
Eh... it's what I do. This week sucks (meetings and meetings about meetings). The kids come back next week. That's when the fun starts.
I haven't even begun full time teaching yet and I can say with 100% confidence that a summer long vacation is needed. Just one day with the little kids has me about ready to collapse and/or scream. Really hoping I can find a SS teaching job in the upper grades next year. Sadly it'll probably be in a Charter school since public school SS jobs are impossible to find, but at least charter school teachers are still part of the state pension fund.
Quote from: rjs246 on August 11, 2014, 09:03:38 PM
People who bitch about our government employees and programs have never been to a country where corruption and incompetence are truly an issue.
People who tout our government employees and programs have never been to Northern Europe.
FUC5 this argument. Let's tolerate corruption because other parts of the world are more corrupt. Lets accept lack of freedom because the rest of the world is less free. SHUT THE farg UP!!!!
I can tolerate morons sucking on nipples. I can't tolerate people arguing an evil is acceptable because there are greater evils in the world. This thought process is significantly more insidious than idiots sucking on tits.
No joke, iggy sucking money out of the government's dick doesn't do all that much to hurt society. The thought process saying that our lack of freedom is acceptable because others are less free/nominal corruption is acceptable because other states are more corrupt is the poison that is slowly, but surely dismantling this country.
lolz, I close concrete faster than a .25 .50 6max table on bovada. Run bitches.
Somebody's been hitting the pipe tonight. Crack kills.
Quote from: rjs246 on August 11, 2014, 09:03:38 PM
People who bitch about our government employees and programs have never been to a country where corruption and incompetence are truly an issue.
People who tout our government employees and programs have never been to Northern Europe.
Well, look at the big brain on brad.
I have chameleon on ignore because he's a right wing troll who thinks all government equals oppression but I'm guessing he has some really insightful and well articulated things to say.
Quote from: Rome on August 11, 2014, 04:36:41 PM
As usual I'll spend 90% of it on women and Irish whiskey and the rest I'll waste.
priortities are in order.
carry on sir.
Quote from: rjs246 on August 12, 2014, 08:37:33 AMI have chameleon on ignore because he's a right wing troll who thinks all government equals oppression but I'm guessing he has some really insightful and well articulated things to say.
I am rained out today, so I'll read up and let you know.
Okay then, all caught up. Here's the gist:
We are enslaved by Massa Obama and his cracker goon IGY.
Neat.
Can we get a screenplay out of that material?
Quote from: rjs246 on August 12, 2014, 08:37:33 AM
but I'm guessing he has some really insightful and well articulated things to say.
ive never noticed him to be a right wing nutcase....certainly not like some people who have come thru here....hes harmless to me...more annoying than rage inducing
Quote from: Seabiscuit36 on August 12, 2014, 10:00:03 AM
Can we get a screenplay out of that material?
Just rewatch Falling Down.
this is one of my jobsites. We got an email early this morning that it was shut down indefinitely until further notice, and now I know why
http://www.post-gazette.com/news/state/2014/08/24/Penn-State-University-student-found-dead-at-construction-site/stories/201408240236
poor guy. i'm attracted to cranes when walking around drunk also.
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First-year student Jack Crean, from Boalsburg, was discovered by police between 10:36 and 11 a.m.
lol...i love MA newspapers
Are they sure it wasn't between 10:37 and 10:59.
So I'll probably be out of a job in about 3 weeks. Long story short (it'll probably end up being long).... I just got royally farged by my project manager. I was promoted to Operations Manager back in July but haven't gotten a lot of training on certain things that I didn't even know I was supposed to be trained on....mostly financial stuff. She's never in the office and is terrible about responding to emails or returning phone calls. Just over a month ago she gave me a "process improvement plan" which highlighted a few areas that I needed to perform better in. I didn't think it was a huge deal because we did that crap all the time in the military and there weren't any negative attachments to it unless performance in those areas didn't improve. And the things that she wanted me to improve on were fairly minor things, all of which I've gotten better at and been complimented on. Seemed like a job coaching tool. Well, she's moving on to another operation and we're getting a new project manager (the guy who replaced me at night). This dude has a bunch of exp and knowledge and I've learned more from him over the last couple of months than I've learned from my previous project manager in the 15 or so months I've been with this company.
So our regional director shows up yesterday and we went out to lunch. He tells me that the improvement plan that was written up on me is basically a death sentence and is the final step before termination. I was farging floored. He made me an offer to go back on the night shift with the same pay and benefits I got with the promotion and that he would throw the improvement plan in the trash and wipe the slate clean. If I don't, he says that I may or may not be fired at the end of that review period, which is 3 weeks from now.
I'm at a farging loss for words here. We give our drivers a verbal, followed up by 2 written warnings before HR even lets us think about termination. Not to mention that I didn't even know that I was doing a bad job and I definitely didn't know that this improvement plan I was given was basically a final termination warning. It was presented to me very casually and she made no indication that this was a pretty big farging deal. Had I known that, I most definitely would have refused to sign or contacted HR immediately.
I was half tempted to tell them to farg off and walk out, but that's just an all around lose/lose situation for me. I'm super ignorant when it comes to civilian employment and employee rights and all that. This is basically the 1st civilian job I've ever had. I'm supposed to talk with the director again tomorrow morning. Should I call HR first and find out if all of this is actually legit? Should I contact a lawyer? Tell them to farg off? Go back to the night shift? Or stay in my current position and make them decide if they want to fire me or not?
Thoughts?
Take the night shift and look for something else on their dime. farging disgusting, though. Sorry, Sassy.
Wow...damn man, sorry for all that bullshtein. Because that is what it is - bullshtein. How big is your company?
The first part of your post where you mention that you haven't received training on certain things because you didn't know? Well you're not a mind reader so you cannot know about them if someone doesn't tell you. I would hold onto that as part of your defense.
I would also hammer home that the lady was pretty much a ghost.
Each company is different but this one sounds way more corporate and buttoned up than I am used to. If I were you I would wait it out...but keep a shteinload of notes detailing what is said and or done to you. If you have an employee handbook or rules that you were given and made to sign when hired find that and read if it says anything about the process improvement plans and if they're a precursor to being terminated.
if it doesn't mention it then you have something to stand on - especially since they said they'd throw it away if you just went back to your old spot. That doesn't sound like you're a bad employee because if you were they'd fire you and not offer you another option.
If they do let you go and you feel that it is without merit or cause (is PA an at will state? I don't remember) I would chat with an attorney. To my eyes it seems like the disciplinary structure is not uniform (the drivers are on a different demerit platform) and the whole "this is the death knell but if you want your old spot back you can go and I will throw this away" is weird.
Talk to the director and highlight what you have done and be open about what concerns you have with this process. Especially since your immediate supervisor never made mention of this being some sort of "fix it or else, pal" thing.
This situation reeks of corporate shtein and I hate that. Good luck man.
Yeah, it's definitely a big corporate joint (one of the larger logistics/distribution companies in the country), but our account is a small/medium sized account and our daily work environment doesn't have a corporate feel to it at all. It's a pretty relaxed place to work and I've enjoyed learning all this new shtein. I also know this isn't an industry (or company) I want to work in forever, but I've been fairly content with the job until now.
I guess I'll start with a call to HR in a few min when they open up and go from there. Worst comes to worst, I'll probably take the night position and immediately start job hunting. Unless pride gets in the way. Given the way I've been treated over the last 48 hours, I still have to wonder if I even want to keep working here. Who's to say that I'll be treated better than I am now? If I accept their terms, I may just come off looking like a push over. I've got my dignity, you know?
why cant your regional director override the stupid bitch who is trying to fire you...he seems like he likes you and he out ranks her
good point by igy - why would he take her word on it?
If you do go back to night shift then I'd agree with what you and Rome said - start hunting for something else. To be blindsided like that is bullshtein.
We have improvement plans too and they are not necessarily a death sentence but they are required before you are fired. You will probably not be promoted again. It is nothing like the military. Don't let the pride put you in a bad situation. The suggestion to stick it out while looking for another job is a good one.
I have never heard of throwing a performance plan in the trash. It sounds like he wants somebody in your job and is leveraging the plan to move you back to night shift, albeit at the same pay and benefits. Question is whether you think you can find employment somewhere else that you like quickly. If you can't, I would consider going back to night shift. That leaves the daytime to interview elsewhere.
BTW, the whole may or may not fire you in three weeks is bullshtein. What is going to change in three weeks? It is either a threat to make you move or he is giving you a heads-up that the firing is going to occur.
Yep solid post PC...definitely sounds like they're angling to get someone else in there.
Go back to nights and find a new gig and then tell em to farg off
Got some more info. They aren't putting anyone else in my day time position. We currently have 5 people in the office. The project manager, me, 2 daytime coordinators, and 1 overnight. The plan is to eliminate 1 position because 5 is kind of overkill....which I actually agree with. Also, PA is a right to work state, so you can be fired at any time for any reason with or without documentation. The reason our drivers have a longer leash is because there is a nationwide shortage of drivers. So if we're going to fire a driver, we have to prove to hr that the driver is truly worth firing.
Eventually the plan is to move the operations manager position to something like a noon-9 pm shift, since that is when we have most of our drivers on the road. The guy who is going to take over as the new pm also says he wants to address me getting a pay raise in 3 months because I'm also going to have new responsibilities thrown on me.
I'm still not thrilled about this at all but I'll give it a shot. I like the new project manager and I like the director. The noon-9 shift isn't great but it's def better than overnight. I'll give them the 3 months to make this all work. If not, I'm out.
The nationwide shortage on drivers is real...as evidenced by the outrageous rates the OTR guys are charging to ship loads. And it trickles down to getting temp drivers to cover shifts for us.
So if anyone out there wants a job - go drive a truck and you'll be in good shape.
Good luck, Sarge!
Our drivers have it easy and are paid quite well. The company negotiated ridiculously excellent rates for our drivers. We have the highest paying acct in our company and 10 of the 15 highest paid drivers in our company work for me. And we don't do any OTR. Richmond Va and Pittsburgh is as far as we go. Our drivers are home every night...with the rare eexception of them running out if hours and we have to put then in a hotel. Drivers in our area are chomping at the bit to get on with us. We haven't had to hire anyone since June, but have probably had 3-4 dozen applications dropped off and countless phone calls to see if we're hiring.
Even with the nationwide shortage, I could have a driver walk out on me right now and have a replacement hired by the end of the day and on the road by Friday.
If that job fargs ya and you wanna move to Houston...we need a ops guy
My sister has been trying to get me to move to Austin fir like 5 years. Great city, but unless they move it outside of Texas, I ain't moving there. Thanks though.
lol all good, man.
You're missing out on an opportunity to continue to not see J despite his relative proximity.
Haha nice.
Living here sucks btw - tonight's episode was it taking me AN HOUR AND FORTY fargING MINUTES TO GO FIVE MILES.
Traffic light out? Makes sense that it would cause that much of a backup between my office and home.
Goddamn shteinbag city
Is Houston really that bad? Ladyfriend wants to go anywhere w/ lots of tertiaries and I'm open to going anywhere to get the hell out of the NYC area. Houston is one of the landing zones we've thought about
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Quote from: Dillen on January 08, 2015, 10:53:37 PM
Is Houston really that bad? Ladyfriend wants to go anywhere w/ lots of tertiaries and I'm open to going anywhere to get the hell out of the NYC area. Houston is one of the landing zones we've thought about
Yeah it can be. I'm five miles from the office and this is the longest it's taken me. Most of the time it's 20min but if anything goes awry then it'll double or triple. I'm on the northwest side and by my place a ton of office buildings have popped up recently. GE Oil and Gas has a huge complex down the street and they have cops out blocking traffic so those fargs can exit the lot. That is what adds time to the commute.
But the rest of the city isn't much better. Adding in feeder roads the Katy freeway (I-10) is 12 lanes wide in spots and that shtein is at a standstill during rush hours.
Galleria area where 610 and 59 intersect is routinely one of the worst traffic areas in the country.
One reason I haven't bought a house is because getting outside of the city will cost your ass hours of commuting time. My buddy built a place in Cypress which is about 20 miles from our office. He's mainly an outside guy so he doesn't have to come in all the time but when he does he's looking at 60-90 minutes depending on the day. His wife works downtown which is worse. They're already looking to sell to get closer and avoid the insanity.
The economy is great here and the cost of living is pretty good (high compared to the rest of the state but peanuts compared to the east coast).
Come down here for a week and drive around and see if you like it before making that move.
On a side note getting in and out of Minute Maid is easy bc it's always empty lol
nyc to houston is....
Quote from: rjs246 on January 08, 2015, 11:02:37 PM
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It's not like we're even close to committing. Houston is on the list but takes a back seat to Charlotte, Philly, Chicago, DC, whatever. It's an idea that was backed up by zero research other than "there's big hospitals there". Good thing I have my CF brethren to knock some sense into me.
Igy did you live around NYC once? Feel like you did. I work on Long Island mostly but we also have an office in midtown a block from Central Park. Even in a nicer part of the city, I'd go insane if I had to go there frequently.
Yeah there are several excellent hospitals here. The medicine is second biggest field in the city I think behind oil and gas
Houston is all the ugly sprawl of LA, none of the culture and no beach. Oh, and you are in Texas, heartland of the American Taliban.
Yeah I agree. And even though we have Galveston I don't consider it a beach because it sucks
LA has culture?
Yeah. Mexicans.
and the Kardashians
Quote from: Dillen on January 09, 2015, 08:38:54 AM
It's not like we're even close to committing. Houston is on the list but takes a back seat to Charlotte, Philly, Chicago, DC, whatever. It's an idea that was backed up by zero research other than "there's big hospitals there". Good thing I have my CF brethren to knock some sense into me.
Igy did you live around NYC once? Feel like you did. I work on Long Island mostly but we also have an office in midtown a block from Central Park. Even in a nicer part of the city, I'd go insane if I had to go there frequently.
never lived there....my brother used to live in the village....i couldnt live there because of new york sports and its fans.....but take that out of it and just look at the city and its the best place ever and I could easily live in a place like that forever....im guessing you aren't a city person or at least a place as hustle and bustle as there?...I mean that's the only reason ive ever heard anyone say they don't like it
If I could afford NYC, I'd be there.
I'd take a city like NY, Philly, Boston or DC over Houston. Those places are congested but you don't have to farging drive everywhere
No one can afford to live in Manhattan unless you've lived there since the early 80's. The cost of living, especially renting, is astronomical. Hell, even Harlem is expensive now.
Quote from: ice grillin you on January 09, 2015, 04:52:00 PM
i couldnt live there because of new york sports and its fans.
There is something seriously wrong with you.
Are you new here?
I just feel bad for the guy. I've met him and spent time talking to him and his people and he seems function and human but if this is how he thinks for real then there is some farged up wiring in his head. Not living in one of the greatest cities on earth because of their sports fans? For fargs sake. Seek help.
I'd rather live near NY fans over DC fans but that's just me
meh as someone who loves dc, the shtein you see online is nothing like the people in real life. i mean yeah skins fans are horrible people but it is not a hard core sports city at all. the actual city is so transient that there are as many eagles cowboys and giants fans at bars as skins. the hardcore skins people that are the people we all hate all live in bumblefarg va or md.
Quote from: rjs246 on January 09, 2015, 09:04:20 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on January 09, 2015, 04:52:00 PM
i couldnt live there because of new york sports and its fans.
There is something seriously wrong with you.
you just figured this out?
Do we were supposed to take out state-mandated writing test today.
And, of course, the state has also mandated that these tests move to computers.
And, of course, the infrastructure that the state underfunded for the schools failed to handle the testing.
So, the test had to be postponed until Thursday.
After that, only tests for reading and math to go. And science. And algebra. And (7th grade) civics.
And then the district (still mandated by the state) "common course exams" for every class. Even those already tested above.
Motherfargers. :boom
I'll be holding my kids out on testing days. Idiocy.
This is what happens when you put douchebags like Rick Scott, who luv 'Murrrca, but don't feel the need to, you know, actually adequately fund their governments they run, in charge.
We have to take a 120 question cert test every year courtesy of one Mr. Jon Runyan. Test takes 6 hours. You pass you don't have to take it the next year, you fail you do. There's no reward for passing or consequence for failing.
Regulatory tests are the funnest...
Haven't seen this thread in awhile. I'm so sick of my job and the corporate bullshtein nonsense that goes with it, that it's ridiculous. I would LOVE to find something completely different to do, even as a change of pace. But we're tethered to the area by my wife's work and family and I don't want to uproot the kid from school, so I'm feeling pretty locked in. Still holding out hope that something different, but viable, rears it's head. That's likely, right?
working from home tues-thurs every week now.
bascially a $3k raise.
Quit your job and play poker. Easy game >:D
I'm working from home just about every day. There are great things about it, and there are downsides...more than I would have initially thought, actually.
Downsides?
Working at home sucks....I do it Friday's because it lets me get prepared for the weekend but I could work at home up to four days a week and choose not to...I love going into the city everyday and having the human interaction of both the commute and the office
I've worked from home for years, love every second of it, but I do enjoy the occasional day in the office. I've said it before on here, people who are full time WFH employees have a system. The once a week folks use it as a day off, see above post.
I did a little bit of working from home when I was an outside sales guy and when I went back to PA when my mom was sick.
I liked it sometimes but it is hard to get into that "work" mode for me when I have a million other things to do at the house.
Been working from home for 11 years. Before I did I never understood how people did it. Took awhile to get it down. shtein loads of distractions BUT it allows you the flexability to attend kids events at school and sporting events in the early afternoon, coach, family matters. I have the freedom to workout in the AM or lunch. Yes, sneak in a noon surf session. Not all fun and games, you pay later. I coach high school soccer so afternoons are shot from Halloween until mid February. Often up until 1-2 AM "catching up". I can't complain but at times I do miss some of the office vibe. I do get some shtein from the Mrs. A lot of "You're home all day why didn't you fix this or that or why didn't you do the laundry?"
I've worked from home forever now, and I usually don't know what day of the week it is. I'm depressed most of the week unless it's poker night. If I lose my ass, I get even more depressed. I don't see anyone else most of the time. The most social interaction I get is when my girlfriend's niece and nephew come over but I soon lose interest in our conversation when I realize they still think that Bismarck is the capital of South Dakota, not North Dakota (idiots). I spend most of my day daydreaming of different ways that I don't want to die including falling into the mouths of sharks and being cut in half. I masturbate to pictures of my girlfriend wearing jeans & sunglasses, and I eat cereal three times a day. Oh, and I get all of my sports updates on concrete field.info
I'm gonna go now.
I've been reading how fed up with corporate life Zanshin is for 11 years now. Before, I thought there was a chance he might shed the golden shackles and assume the mantle of freedom and independence that was his birthright, but I have since come to understand that even the brave and beautiful, cowed long enough by the threat of unemployment and discomfort, will grow to accept the lash and chain.
Pour one out for a brother.
I just had a week's worth of work flushed because the analysts in our dept made changes to const rate values that were supposed to be done last week.
I was pissed for about 2 seconds but then I remembered I'm nothing but a petty gubmint functionary, and my work is unimportant to 99.99999999999999% of the population, so...
Quote from: Seabiscuit36 on March 04, 2015, 05:07:34 PM
I've worked from home for years, love every second of it, but I do enjoy the occasional day in the office. I've said it before on here, people who are full time WFH employees have a system. The once a week folks use it as a day off, see above post.
not sure i could do it 5 days a week but so far so good. especially this week when i avoided a 2 1/2hr ride home and todays weather.
speaking of, right now im looking at the snow fall as i sit at my desk warm a cozy knowing i dont have to deal with the iceholes on the turnpike.
im getting paid to wear sweatpants and watch tv today
say what you will about mindless soul crushing office work that is both unfulfilling and maddening and bureaucratically insulting to the common man....but damn this is nice.
I applied for wfh...Im next in line for approval. Since I didn't get it I have today off since our buildings closed. If you have wfh and there's a snow day you still have to work even if the buildings closed.
yes you do but between the peace of mind of not dealing with the iceholes on the road and the $17.50 per day savings it's worth it.
We found out today (via e-mail, ironically enough) that our county-wide personnel database files were hacked a few days ago by unknown parties. As a result, we've all been given complimentary subscriptions to Lifelock for a year just in case.
Finishing up my student teaching tomorrow...well, today. Been with these 2nd graders every day since January 5th. Am really gonna miss them. Couldn't see my self teaching any grade younger though...2nd's definitely the lowest I could go.
Graduate on Sunday and then begins the process of applying for teaching jobs. Praying for a high school social studies job.
Good luck! Are you set in staying near home or willing to move? Second graders! I give you credit man. I coach high school soccer and after two hours I'm ready to strangle 3/4 of them or beat them silly with a clipboard.
Quote from: Munson on May 14, 2015, 12:18:53 AM
Finishing up my student teaching tomorrow...well, today. Been with these 2nd graders every day since January 5th. Am really gonna miss them. Couldn't see my self teaching any grade younger though...2nd's definitely the lowest I could go.
Graduate on Sunday and then begins the process of applying for teaching jobs. Praying for a high school social studies job.
It's funny how people feel about different levels. I've had many people (mostly jokingly) question my sanity over teaching middle schoolers. But I'm at the point where I couldn't see myself teaching any other level. 8th grade is a lot of fun.
Good luck finding a job.
Congrats Munson, sounds like you enjoyed this past gig, hope you find a good landing spot.
He's spent the last 15 yrs posting on various Eagles message boards. I'd say he's ideally suited for teaching 2nd graders.
Probably worth a bullet on the resume.
or in the temple
Nice.
took a new job in late dec after being at my prev job for almost 13 years...took a paycut but i would've had a heart attack at the old job...high stress/long hours/working for & with aholes. also went from a 30 min commute to a 30 second commute...no exaggeration. i could walk to work if i weren't so lazy. much less stressful job...no long hours or taking work home with me. much better work/life balance. life is good. 8)
Quote from: hunt on May 14, 2015, 08:53:53 AM
took a new job in late dec after being at my prev job for almost 13 years...took a paycut but i would've had a heart attack at the old job...high stress/long hours/working for & with aholes. also went from a 30 min commute to a 30 second commute...no exaggeration. i could walk to work if i weren't so lazy. much less stressful job...no long hours or taking work home with me. much better work/life balance. life is good. 8)
Same sort of job? I need that.
Quote from: Zanshin on May 14, 2015, 08:56:19 AM
Quote from: hunt on May 14, 2015, 08:53:53 AM
took a new job in late dec after being at my prev job for almost 13 years...took a paycut but i would've had a heart attack at the old job...high stress/long hours/working for & with aholes. also went from a 30 min commute to a 30 second commute...no exaggeration. i could walk to work if i weren't so lazy. much less stressful job...no long hours or taking work home with me. much better work/life balance. life is good. 8)
Same sort of job? I need that.
govt is taking applications
Quote from: Zanshin on May 14, 2015, 08:56:19 AM
Quote from: hunt on May 14, 2015, 08:53:53 AM
took a new job in late dec after being at my prev job for almost 13 years...took a paycut but i would've had a heart attack at the old job...high stress/long hours/working for & with aholes. also went from a 30 min commute to a 30 second commute...no exaggeration. i could walk to work if i weren't so lazy. much less stressful job...no long hours or taking work home with me. much better work/life balance. life is good. 8)
Same sort of job? I need that.
very similar...went from plant controller to accountant/office mgr/prod scheduler. just fell into a better situation with an experienced staff in place who actually do their own jobs with little supervision needed...and corporate mgmt that doesn't constantly bust balls & play the blame game. and the place happened to be right down the street from my house. got really lucky. :yay
i hate my commute now. real tough walking to our spare room.
Quote from: smeags on May 14, 2015, 09:25:52 AM
i hate my commute now. real tough walking to our spare room.
haha! nice!
yeah, i read back in this thread a bit. i'm worried i'd fall into the category of treating a wfh day as a day off. going to the office forces me to stay on task & actually do some work in between posting on mb's.
i still like going in on mondays and fridays. def helps keep me focused and in a grove workwise. i just like that i got 8hrs of my life back a week by not traveling the turnpike 3days a week.
Nice. I'm so sick of the shtein I have to do and the people I have to do it for. I've been at my place for 15 years, and I've seen a lot of good people shown the door. It's high-stress,low fulfilling. But it pays the bills. Still, I'd like to be happier as I pay the bills.
i was at that point myself. i needed something to get me out of the funk. i took the WFH deal as a personal challenge to push myself to not be distracted while still putting up numbers at the top.
so far so good. the real challenge will be when my lil guy gets out of school for the summer next month.
My job will get much easier three weeks from tomorrow. 8)
Quote from: Seabiscuit36 on May 14, 2015, 08:32:30 AM
or in the temple
Come on, man. He's in teaching, the kids will take care of that for him.
Quote from: Zanshin on May 14, 2015, 09:56:43 AM
Nice. I'm so sick of the shtein I have to do and the people I have to do it for. I've been at my place for 15 years, and I've seen a lot of good people shown the door. It's high-stress,low fulfilling. But it pays the bills. Still, I'd like to be happier as I pay the bills.
Similar boat with the talent simply not being retained over the past 10 years. The bills and future bills is what keeps me motivated at this point. My company is taking the Yahoo stance on telecommuting, so it'll be very interesting to see how things shake out with individuals who stayed solely for the flexibility.
I have three more years. After that all bets are off. I like my job, and my colleagues, especially here, are really cool, but my daughter is out of here in 2018, and my (our) options go from one to infinite when that day comes.
Thinking Fiji, actually. Or Kauai...
I need a night warehouse manager if anyone wants to move to Houston?!
Night shift at a warehouse in Houston, 9.80 per hour?
Sounds fun.
True but you get to wear your Eagles jersey to work and have the pleasure of yelling, PLEASE FIGHT ME every time you see the boss.
You can't put a price of that, Dio.
Quote from: Don Ho on May 14, 2015, 03:13:19 AM
Good luck! Are you set in staying near home or willing to move? Second graders! I give you credit man. I coach high school soccer and after two hours I'm ready to strangle 3/4 of them or beat them silly with a clipboard.
I love the area I live in and am pretty set on staying here for life. If I didn't have any sort of obligations, and could guarentee myself a job when I came back, I'd totally consider taking a job for a year or two out in the middle of no where Montana or Wyoming or somewhere like that.
2nd graders are definitely a challenge, and I couldn't see myself going any younger than that. Any time I've subbed for Kindergarten, I've been exhausted at the end of the day. Can't imagine doing that every day.
Quote from: Eagaholic on May 14, 2015, 06:29:18 AM
Congrats Munson, sounds like you enjoyed this past gig, hope you find a good landing spot.
Yeah, I got lucky, had a great group of kids to work with. Praying I get a job in the same district if I can.
Quote from: Geowhizzer on May 14, 2015, 05:57:43 AM
It's funny how people feel about different levels. I've had many people (mostly jokingly) question my sanity over teaching middle schoolers. But I'm at the point where I couldn't see myself teaching any other level. 8th grade is a lot of fun.
Good luck finding a job.
When I first started my degree, I thought I'd love middle school. Substitute teaching has kind of challenged that, but I also gotta remember I'm a substitute and subs just don't get the same respect. I am definitely willing to teach middle school social studies. 8th graders would probably be my preferred grade in middle school...6th and 7th graders are annoying.
Quote from: Rome on May 14, 2015, 07:20:02 AM
He's spent the last 15 yrs posting on various Eagles message boards. I'd say he's ideally suited for teaching 2nd graders.
Quote from: Zanshin on May 14, 2015, 08:22:56 AM
Probably worth a bullet on the resume.
Quote from: Seabiscuit36 on May 14, 2015, 08:32:30 AM
or in the temple
:-D :-D
Holy shtein, it really has been about 15 years :paranoid
Quote from: Rome on May 14, 2015, 06:47:40 PM
True but you get to wear your Eagles jersey to work and have the pleasure of yelling, PLEASE FIGHT ME every time you see the boss.
You can't put a price of that, Dio.
This guy gets it!
And it would pay like $15 so there!
Quote from: Rome on May 14, 2015, 01:21:15 PM
I have three more years. After that all bets are off. I like my job, and my colleagues, especially here, are really cool, but my daughter is out of here in 2018, and my (our) options go from one to infinite when that day comes.
Thinking Fiji, actually. Or Kauai...
I got relatives...........
Love where I work, never a dull moment
http://www.philly.com/philly/news/20150529_Probe_faultsVA_official_s__Angel_Whisperer__party.html
Quote from: SD on May 28, 2015, 01:22:26 PM
Love where I work, never a dull moment
http://www.philly.com/philly/news/20150529_Probe_faultsVA_official_s__Angel_Whisperer__party.html
So which dead person did you communicate with? And did you make a clay pot with them?
So when the inspector general came for their surprise visit, she left a notepad in the lady's room calling one of the inspectors arrogant and a stuck up bitch which they got a hold of. So now they really have it out for her.
http://articles.philly.com/2014-07-17/news/51607883_1_house-committee-veterans-affairs-staffer
Is she the lady in the pic? If so, fat and ugly leaves no room for arrogance and stuck uppery
Quote from: Tomahawk on May 28, 2015, 02:37:01 PM
Is she the lady in the pic? If so, fat and ugly leaves no room for arrogance and stuck uppery
No that lady is a whole different story. She's the reason we're in the news so much. She's a whistleblower who constantly complains to congress that we're mistreated as employees here. She didn't pass the bar but she practices law so she uses that to her advantage. There's something seriously wrong with her.
This is an extremely high pressure job where we're expected to perform and make numbers, but nobody is being forced to work here. You can't hack it then leave. Half the problem with this place is employees who can't make their numbers and refuse to learn how to do the job right.
6 more school days. I think I can make it...
My heart bleeds for you.
I have never been more convinced of the need for a summer vacation. Students are insane. The education field would be barren without summer breaks combined with zesty salary.
If you don't think teachers earn their money and their vacations, we don't have anything to talk about.
School should go year round with regular breaks. Teachers should be paid more and given more robust support (staff, infrastructure, resources, respect).
This isn't complicated.
My wife got totally farged over on a promotion today. She just said, "farg 'em" and she's going to find another one. She's been on the computer since she got home getting her shtein in order. I told her I would be totally fine if she walked in there tomorrow, picked up her shtein, and walked the farg out, but she said she'll just bide her time until she finds something else. I am still seething over them farging her over right now, but I've never been more proud of her for being the coolest chick ever.
Quote from: rjs246 on May 28, 2015, 07:47:32 PM
School should go year round with regular breaks.
I agree with this. It would be better for the kids, and will keep teachers fresher longer.
Of course, a lot of teachers get jobs during that summer break to earn more money.
Quote from: rjs246 on May 28, 2015, 07:47:32 PM
School should go year round with regular breaks. Teachers should be paid more and given more robust support (staff, infrastructure, resources, respect).
This isn't complicated.
That would certainly cut into our budget for the military, you communist prick
Quote from: Rome on May 28, 2015, 08:32:01 PM
My wife got totally farged over on a promotion today. She just said, "farg 'em" and she's going to find another one. She's been on the computer since she got home getting her shtein in order. I told her I would be totally fine if she walked in there tomorrow, picked up her shtein, and walked the farg out, but she said she'll just bide her time until she finds something else. I am still seething over them farging her over right now, but I've never been more proud of her for being the coolest chick ever.
So, the takeaway from this is that you got cuckolded by your wife's boss.
Quote from: Zanshin on May 29, 2015, 03:48:44 PM
Quote from: Rome on May 28, 2015, 08:32:01 PM
My wife got totally farged over on a promotion today. She just said, "farg 'em" and she's going to find another one. She's been on the computer since she got home getting her shtein in order. I told her I would be totally fine if she walked in there tomorrow, picked up her shtein, and walked the farg out, but she said she'll just bide her time until she finds something else. I am still seething over them farging her over right now, but I've never been more proud of her for being the coolest chick ever.
So, the takeaway from this is that you got cuckolded by your wife's boss.
:-D the zinger rate on here lately has definitely been on the rise.
Just got home from the 8th grade dance. Good Lord, dance music sucks.
Quote from: Zanshin on May 29, 2015, 03:48:44 PM
Quote from: Rome on May 28, 2015, 08:32:01 PM
My wife got totally farged over on a promotion today. She just said, "farg 'em" and she's going to find another one. She's been on the computer since she got home getting her shtein in order. I told her I would be totally fine if she walked in there tomorrow, picked up her shtein, and walked the farg out, but she said she'll just bide her time until she finds something else. I am still seething over them farging her over right now, but I've never been more proud of her for being the coolest chick ever.
So, the takeaway from this is that you got cuckolded by your wife's boss.
Hahaha nice
outfitted my new workstation today
yes im working on a saturday
in the government
(https://scontent.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xtf1/t31.0-8/887578_10207450883970724_5847884923171128191_o.jpg)
Saturday working = quadruple time and six Monday's off as compensation?
lol...i wish....just straight comp time on top of leave i already have too much of....i aint mad about it but its nothing special
I wish I had more time off - just get three weeks right now and technically that is for sick or vacation but my boss will look the other way and not hit me for single days here and there
Only have to work one Saturday a year tho so that's cool
I recognize something in that picture.
I mean, other than the grown up version of an 11 year old boy's bedroom.
I quit my job as a nuclear physicist for ten years. Leaving behind my fat salary, my fargload of vacation, my masters degree, my clearance, and Pittsburgh. I'm done working for this field, the military, and the government in general. It's not who I am, and I don't want to do it anymore.
Headed out west with only what can fit in my Mustang. No job lined up, no real plan. I'll figure something out.
Seriously? I forgot you were a nuke guy...ballsy decision and I hope it works out for you. Maybe you can shack up with HBionic for a bit
What year mustang?
sweet, midlife crisis
have fun dude. stop in vegas.
2010. It's nothing all that special, but it loves the open road.
I'll end up in Oregon about a month from now. I spend a lot of time out there, might as well make it my home. Got friends who can help me out.
The way I see it, what I was doing wasn't working out for me. Maybe the next job won't, either. I'll just keep trying until I get it right. No more settling. I'm lucky enough to be a guy who can do a lot of different things pretty well.
Oregon and versatility in your careers? Chipbot!
Seriously good luck. You're doing what many would like to do. I was talking to a buddy the other day about liking and loving going to work and where you work and how important it is to ones mental health. People that hate their jobs but can't quit are miserable.
So you're doing what those would love to do.
You say you're giving up your clearance so because you quit you have to give that up and you'd never be able to work in that field again?
I would be able to return, but I'm not going to. In fact they'd love to have me, with the whole OPM hacking disaster, security clearances are basically frozen, they can't hire anyone.
I don't talk a lot of politics on here, but I'll open up a little. I don't think I did anything morally objectionable in my career (I keep reactors operating efficiently and safely), but I'm a hardcore peacenik, I don't want this nexus to the military-industrial complex anymore. I don't want to hold a clearance or be a part of that system. It's been against my values for a very long time. So this is why I don't foresee making use of my clearance again.
Plus I can smoke legal weed out there, I've been pissing in cups for a decade.
You fool, you could have been using empty soda bottles the entire time!
Quote from: General_Failure on August 26, 2015, 12:04:15 AM
You fool, you could have been using empty soda bottles the entire time!
In an emergency empty soda bottles can be used for smoking the legal weed as well.
I've always been fascinated with nuclear plants and bombs since we lived close to Limerick when I was a kid. I used to get spooked out when the test sirens went off thinking it was melting down.
As for the bomb part since I love history the Hiroshima and Nagasaki bombings have been something I've read just about everything I can get my hands on. I read an article on Longform about one of the last living scientists who participated in The Manhattan Project and it was
fascinating.
What would you like to do out there? Play it by ear and whatever comes up you'll consider it or is there something you're interested in but never thought you'd have the opportunity to do?
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on August 26, 2015, 12:11:54 AM
I've always been fascinated with nuclear plants and bombs
Welcome to the watchlist, buddy.
Lists? I love lists!
If I get taken to a back room on my flight home Saturday do you know any good lawyers in Philly?
I'll probably end up doing something in IT. I'm a computer geek more than a nuke geek. I also have an old Electrical and Computer Engineering degree gathering dust. But I'm going to have to start rather low on the ladder and work my way up, just to gain the skills and certifications.
Still very much a believer in nuclear energy, but I recognize that it will never have the political acceptance it needs to reach its potential. The industry is probably dying. It's the cure for global warming, but people see it as somehow unnatural and inherently unsafe. What I would say is that even if you're someone who believes that the current plants are too unsafe (a position I don't hold), there's no reason other than a religious belief in the evil of that particular technology to think that there's no way it CAN be made safe. It's just a technology and can always be improved and brought into the service of humanity. So I think the field has gotten a bad rap and will never be able to flourish. At least until fusion comes around and makes energy ridiculously cheap, but I'm not holding my breath for that.
The atomic bomb was a disgusting scourge and I consider Truman to be a mass murderer of old men, women and children. The one good result of all that bomb research is that they unnaturally brought the 21st-22nd century technology of nuclear energy into the mid 20th century. But we've pissed that away somewhat. A lot of non-scientists can't discuss nuclear technology soberly, ultimately because of the way it was born into this world and the decades of fear those bombs brought about.
Long story short, it would be a much more exciting field if it wasn't so stringently handcuffed (imagine needing a bureaucrat to sign off on every single thing you do at work 15 years in advance), but I accept that's the way the world is. With the current rules of the game, the field is doomed.
Zanshin you're next up. Quit the awful job. There's room for everyone in the ditches.
I am legitimately happy for you and oh so envious as well.
Good luck in whatever you pursue.
Quote from: QB Eagles on August 26, 2015, 12:36:10 AM
I'll probably end up doing something in IT. I'm a computer geek more than a nuke geek. I also have an old Electrical and Computer Engineering degree gathering dust. But I'm going to have to start rather low on the ladder and work my way up, just to gain the skills and certifications.
Still very much a believer in nuclear energy, but I recognize that it will never have the political acceptance it needs to reach its potential. The industry is probably dying. It's the cure for global warming, but people see it as somehow unnatural and inherently unsafe. What I would say is that even if you're someone who believes that the current plants are too unsafe (a position I don't hold), there's no reason other than a religious belief in the evil of that particular technology to think that there's no way it CAN be made safe. It's just a technology and can always be improved and brought into the service of humanity. So I think the field has gotten a bad rap and will never be able to flourish. At least until fusion comes around and makes energy ridiculously cheap, but I'm not holding my breath for that.
The atomic bomb was a disgusting scourge and I consider Truman to be a mass murderer of old men, women and children. The one good result of all that bomb research is that they unnaturally brought the 21st-22nd century technology of nuclear energy into the mid 20th century. But we've pissed that away somewhat. A lot of non-scientists can't discuss nuclear technology soberly, ultimately because of the way it was born into this world and the decades of fear those bombs brought about.
Long story short, it would be a much more exciting field if it wasn't so stringently handcuffed (imagine needing a bureaucrat to sign off on every single thing you do at work 15 years in advance), but I accept that's the way the world is. With the current rules of the game, the field is doomed.
Agreed on the energy and the bombs.
If I recall the general in charge of the project was supposed to travel to Washington to warn Truman to not drop them because of how nasty they were. He never went and relayed the message.
I need to read more on the pacific portion of the war specifically the planned ground invasion.
Anyhow - good luck and enjoy the liberating cross country drive. Take your time and move at a leisurely pace and soak up areas and places you've always wanted to see.
Quote from: ice grillin you on July 11, 2015, 11:45:35 AM
outfitted my new workstation today
yes im working on a saturday
in the government
I have work at home two days a week. Have the exact same laptop and set up. If you told me that pic was taken in my office I'd have believed you.
Quote from: QB Eagles on August 25, 2015, 11:34:03 PM
I quit my job as a nuclear physicist for ten years. Leaving behind my fat salary, my fargload of vacation, my masters degree, my clearance, and Pittsburgh. I'm done working for this field, the military, and the government in general. It's not who I am, and I don't want to do it anymore.
Headed out west with only what can fit in my Mustang. No job lined up, no real plan. I'll figure something out.
This is awesome and I applaud your decision. Good luck to whatever you decide to do from here. If it weren't for my daughter I'd have moved and quit by now. Enjoy your new found freedom.
Quote from: Diomedes on August 26, 2015, 07:33:51 AM
Zanshin you're next up. Quit the awful job. There's room for everyone in the ditches.
I could dig that. Pun intended. I've been interviewing...but, man, I'd love to do something totally different. But the wife, kid and dog wouldn't fit neatly into a Mustang and road trip with no income on the horizon.
Quote from: Zanshin on August 26, 2015, 10:31:57 AM
Quote from: Diomedes on August 26, 2015, 07:33:51 AM
Zanshin you're next up. Quit the awful job. There's room for everyone in the ditches.
I could dig that. Pun intended. I've been interviewing...but, man, I'd love to do something totally different. But the wife, kid and dog wouldn't fit neatly into a Mustang and road trip with no income on the horizon.
Book some gigs for the kiddo along the way and you'll be ok!
Quote from: QB Eagles on August 25, 2015, 11:34:03 PM
I quit my job as a nuclear physicist for ten years. Leaving behind my fat salary, my fargload of vacation, my masters degree, my clearance, and Pittsburgh. I'm done working for this field, the military, and the government in general. It's not who I am, and I don't want to do it anymore.
Headed out west with only what can fit in my Mustang. No job lined up, no real plan. I'll figure something out.
Excellent, and I did something similar. Except the move. Wish I could, but Id have to leave the family.
Let us know if you find something great. Maybe I can figure out how to pull up stakes.
Thanks for the good wishes, everyone. In a couple months I'll update you about what's next. Hopefully not sucking dick on the roadside. I'm looking for more than a lateral move.
Don't do that on the roadside. Get set up with a nice hotel room and somebody to check up on you.
Quote from: General_Failure on August 26, 2015, 06:38:02 PM
Don't do that on the roadside. Get set up with a nice hotel room and somebody to check up on you.
Again, the outpouring of good thoughts from you all is really appreciated.
Quote from: QB Eagles on August 26, 2015, 06:34:37 PM
Thanks for the good wishes, everyone. In a couple months I'll update you about what's next. Hopefully not sucking dick on the roadside. I'm looking for more than a lateral move.
i pay $25 a pop for mine....you can make good money
lol
Phreak, the sole reason the bomb was dropped was NOT to get Japan to surrender (japan was negotiating with the US on a face saving manner for Japan's emperor. Sadly, it was done for reasons of a post WWII world: to let the Soviet Union know that the US was 1)atomic capable 2)willing to drop the bomb 3)Needed a serious showing because of the influence USSR would have after the war. US's muscle needed to be respected. In fact, CHURCHILL convinced FDR to delay attacking Germany and create two fronts so Germany could wipe out as many soviets as possible because of how strong USSR would be postwar. One of the reasons Stalin felt betrayed by the 'allies'. See 20 million dead soviet troops.
:-D history nerd
[runningawayintears]I hate you![/runningawayintears]
Looks like Hbionic watched the Oliver Stone Untold History of the United States
Good stuff Hb!
I'd read that they wanted to use it because the invasion was predicted to cause something like 1.4M allied casualties because of the way the country is situated.
But I'd never considered the Soviet angle and it makes sense. The nugget about two fronts and letting the Nazi's take out as many Soviets is interesting too.
WWII is fascinating to me
Quote from: Seabiscuit36 on August 27, 2015, 08:51:25 AM
Looks like Hbionic watched the Oliver Stone Untold History of the United States
lol
Quote from: Seabiscuit36 on August 27, 2015, 08:51:25 AM
Looks like Hbionic watched the Oliver Stone Untold History of the United States
Is that a real thing? I had a pretty good history teacher in college.
I'm amazed a guy name Hyman (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hyman_G._Rickover) could give birth to nuclear power...I thought hymen's were just supposed to be knocked out.
Today is the employee picnic for my local workplace. And being a contractor, I'm not considered an employee. so I can't participate.
I can't say that I won't enjoy the peace and quiet in the office...but it sucks to be reminded that I'm a second class worker to a legion of people whose biggest concern is when they can finally retire on the federal dole.
you cant get mad at federal retirement then want to use tax payer money to pay you to go to their picnic....to be honest i am kind of surprised a federal agency is even having a picnic....unless they are making everyone take leave to go to it
one of the worst things a govt employee can do is pay a contractor to do anything but their work....not only are they being paid with taxpayer money they make way more than their govt counterparts...at least every one ive ever seen does...so im not really sure where the woe is me second class citizen stuff is coming from...govt contractors in general do really really well
Oh, I'm fully aware of the business separation between employees and contractors. But I can tell you that I'm certainly not doing as well as my counterparts. Maybe my company is doing well, but the employees are no better or worse off than the average. The only positive I have is that I can actually get paid for showing up on a daily basis.
This is military (in essence), so there is plenty of Stupid Money available. And more and more, things are moving to project-based work, which lends itself to the temporary nature of contracting. It's certainly not cost effective in the long run, and I've seen so many built in inefficiencies in this system. Stuff that would never fly in the private sector.
The reason I even posted was to say that it sucks to work side by side with people, to share their struggles and help them do their jobs...and then when it comes time for the organization to show its appreciation, contractors are persona non grata. Yeah, I knew this going in, but it still sucks to be reminded of it.
military must be different then cause i have never heard of a contractor not making more than their civilian agency equal counterparts
i totally get the human nature aspect of it as it pertains to the people you work with and see everyday...but at the same time that pretty much is known and comes with the terrority of contracting in the govt
Yep, I know the nature of the beast. But it's not like I had much of a choice. Gotta pay the mortgage.
For what it's worth, my salary is probably in the bottom third (or less) of the range for others who do my job, with my level of experience. The big positive is that my employer (the company holding the contract) offer 100% paid healthcare insurance. But even if you factor that in, I'm still at or below the average.
Permanent, non-entry-level work in this area is pretty tough to find, especially for somebody as...well...seasoned as I am. I'm still trying to find a gig, but for now, what I have is close to home, it's regular, and because it's basically government work, the stress level is pretty low.
No longer have a job to hate, which is good and bad. Good because the office environment was farging toxic and I don't think working for a major corporation is for me....I have a hard time motivating myself to make rich people even more rich. Bad because, well, no paycheck now. Not going to lose much sleep over it though because I really didn't have any intentions of staying there much beyond Jan 1. Oh well. At least now I'll have my Sundays off again. Hopefully the Eagles get their shtein together and are at least worth watching. I feel like I haven't missed much the 1st 2 weeks of the season.
I just had to fill out an 'emotional intelligence' evaluation for one of my co-workers. The word 'turdtastic' may have been used in the free response section.
What the farg is an emotional intelligence evaluation?!
It's the kind of thing people with smart friends have to fill out, so never you mind.
Can you fill one out for me please?
Dude, I'm shoveling gravel all day tomorrow. Not your guy.
I got called into our division HQ by the big guy today and found out I was transferred and promoted. Start Monday. Yay Romey.
What's the homeless situation at your new location? Random drifters or full blown shanty town?
Zero homeless. This is Richie Rich territory.
Thanks for caring though. ❤️
I'm going to pay homeless to camp at your new door step
But if you start paying them they might not be homeless anymore.
Just enough so they're homeless and stay camped out
Will you be handing out Trotter jerseys for them to wear?
Quote from: Sgt PSN on April 01, 2016, 05:48:52 PM
What's the homeless situation at your new location? Random drifters or full blown shanty town?
lol
:CF forever
Quote from: Rome on April 01, 2016, 08:20:03 PM
Will you be handing out Trotter jerseys for them to wear?
And McNabb
You gonna give him a lift to the shanty town? I don't think he's allowed to drive himself anymore.
A whole slew of coworkers just got reorged including my boss. Goddammit I really don't feel like looking for a new job. BOOOOOORRRRRRIIIIINNNNNGGGGG.
You're welcome to pick up a shovel. You'd fit right in with my crew.
Quote from: rjs246 on May 02, 2016, 03:27:13 PM
A whole slew of coworkers just got reorged including my boss. Goddammit I really don't feel like looking for a new job. BOOOOOORRRRRRIIIIINNNNNGGGGG.
I read that as re-orgied
Was wondering why we didn't hear about the first orgy
me too
i was also moved to a pilot program today to work on vertical websites. guys you should buy them, theyre vertical.
Quote from: Diomedes on May 02, 2016, 03:37:54 PM
You're welcome to pick up a shovel. You'd fit right in with my crew.
This is so tempting.
But sadly and somewhat amazingly I find myself in a situation where I am not the only one making these decisions anymore. While this agreement almost always works in my favor times like this, where I want to tell the adult world to eat curried shtein and die, seem to always work against me.
My buddy had several pallets of sod delivered to his house on Saturday. I helped him lay the entire yard and it took us a few hours to do it. Haven't done manual labor like that in quite a while.
I didn't miss it.
At all.
My advice: Stay in your cushy "using your brain thingy" employment field.
Quote from: Rome on May 03, 2016, 05:22:13 AM
My advice: Stay in your cushy "using your brain thingy" employment field.
For sure. It's all good on nice days, but when it's 38 degrees and raining, I tell myself that it's a good thing that I'm working inside.
Quote from: Susquehanna Birder on May 03, 2016, 08:58:09 AM
Quote from: Rome on May 03, 2016, 05:22:13 AM
My advice: Stay in your cushy "using your brain thingy" employment field.
For sure. It's all good on nice days, but when it's 98 degrees and raining, I tell myself that it's a good thing that I'm working inside.
Corrected for Florida.
My company just laid off a shtein ton of people...I'm guessing 500 out of 3,000 in my division alone. Somebody just told me they needed something immediately because it's urgent. I told her to sing me the Foreigner song or I will not be able to comply.
Damn dude, you are cold as ice. I bet that made her so hot blooded that she had double vision.
such a dirty white boy.
I know we've made awful jokes like this a million times before, but it still feels like the first time.
Layoffs. Man, that will give you a blue morning. A blue day even.
If layoffs make you blue, then you've had too rosy an opinion of the security afforded by employment.
There is no such thing. Might as well work for yourself, it's no less reliable.
I started working for myself last year. Showed up to work drunk on the first day. Had to let myself go. No biggie though. Boss seemed like a douchebag anyway.
Quote from: Diomedes on September 02, 2016, 04:36:18 PM
If layoffs make you blue, then you've had too rosy an opinion of the security afforded by employment.
There is no such thing. Might as well work for yourself, it's no less reliable.
I don't get it when people say shtein like, "So much for loyalty from the company." Has that really been a thing since the 70's?
Some of the oldtimers at my military job were butthurt when I walked away from that career without having other work lined up. They saw it as a negative judgement of what they had dedicated their lives to. And they were right about that.
Best decision of my life, by the way.
I got a check in the mail last week from my former employer along with a letter claiming that they were audited by the Dept of Labor and owed me additional wages for overtime. I was salaried, but had to work 50hrs/week. Got a check for $2100 after taxes, but there was no pay sheet included with the check that showed how they came up with that number. The letter said that cashing the check was acknowledgement on my part that all wages are up to date and to call the head of HR with questions, so I didn't cash the check and called the HR lady. I asked if she could email me a breakdown and she said she couldn't because all she had was this massive spreadsheet with pay info for everyone else that they had to compensate. Asked her if she could c&p my info into a new spreadsheet and send it to me and she said that she would have to check with legal, but probably not.
So then I asked her to explain to me how they came up with that amount. She said that I was paid 1/2 time for 10 hours of o/t for each week that I worked there. I was there just under 2 years. I started around $21/hr and by the time I left was making $26/hr (based on a 40hr work week). Even at my lowest pay rate, that would have been $10.50/hr x 10hrs x # of weeks I worked there, right? I was there 23 months, so approximatey 100 weeks. Take out say 4 weeks for vacation/sick days and that's 96 weeks.
So $10.50 x 10 x 96 = $10,080. And that's just using my entry level pay and not accounting for raises/promotions. Am I figuring this correctly, because there is a HUGE difference between that and the amount they actually paid me.
I've put in a call to the DOL because I think it's bull that they won't provide me with a breakdown of my pay and if I was understanding her explanation correctly, then they're also massively underpaying me. Any of you guys ever deal with something like this?
Yes.
We were bought out by a competitor and they gave everyone severance pay.
Then later on, something similar...they issues 3-week's pay...but by cashing, we acknowledged we couldn't go after them legally.
I was broke so I cashed it...but that's what they're doing, they're trying to avoid you going after them for the proper amount.
farg them.
I guess it was too late in the day to get a call back from DOL, so I'll try again in the morning. Always thought it was shady as hell that I was working 10hr shifts, 5 days a week and getting no additional compensation. But wtf do I know about this shtein after a career in the military, right? Plus I was new and didn't want to rock the boat and PA is a right to work state, so employers can fire you for no reason at all. So I wasn't trying to make a big stink about things.
But I literally have nothing better to do with my time now other than make phone calls to the feds and sit on hold for hours at a time. And luckily for me, I get a fat check from Uncle Sam every month so it's not hurting me to hold onto that check. Sucks that you weren't able to hold out on that one Chugster.
I was young, stupid, naive, and had my head up my ass. Now, I'm just older.
Interesting.
Chuggie is right - they're trying to soothe you with a little when they owe a lot more.
Since you have the time to investigate it further I would keep doing it.
If they don't have a count and are averaging it out then they need to pay you based off of that. Otherwise they need a spreadsheet breakdown itemizing everything.
Now I am curious...my company does the same. They require us to work 7-5. We're salaried.
Then I guess you better hope they get audited by DOL. lol
HR Lady said that they got my work schedule/hours worked from my former boss. I guess possible he gave them inaccurate info since any money owed to me would probably come out of his operating budget, which would impact his annual bonus.
I would hate my job if I still had one. I take solace in the fact that Cat stock dropped immediately after I was laid off.
That sucks. How long were you with them? Did you get any kind of severance?
Quote from: Sgt PSN on October 24, 2016, 05:01:39 PM
I got a check in the mail last week from my former employer along with a letter claiming that they were audited by the Dept of Labor and owed me additional wages for overtime. I was salaried, but had to work 50hrs/week. Got a check for $2100 after taxes, but there was no pay sheet included with the check that showed how they came up with that number. The letter said that cashing the check was acknowledgement on my part that all wages are up to date and to call the head of HR with questions, so I didn't cash the check and called the HR lady. I asked if she could email me a breakdown and she said she couldn't because all she had was this massive spreadsheet with pay info for everyone else that they had to compensate. Asked her if she could c&p my info into a new spreadsheet and send it to me and she said that she would have to check with legal, but probably not.
So then I asked her to explain to me how they came up with that amount. She said that I was paid 1/2 time for 10 hours of o/t for each week that I worked there. I was there just under 2 years. I started around $21/hr and by the time I left was making $26/hr (based on a 40hr work week). Even at my lowest pay rate, that would have been $10.50/hr x 10hrs x # of weeks I worked there, right? I was there 23 months, so approximatey 100 weeks. Take out say 4 weeks for vacation/sick days and that's 96 weeks.
So $10.50 x 10 x 96 = $10,080. And that's just using my entry level pay and not accounting for raises/promotions. Am I figuring this correctly, because there is a HUGE difference between that and the amount they actually paid me.
I've put in a call to the DOL because I think it's bull that they won't provide me with a breakdown of my pay and if I was understanding her explanation correctly, then they're also massively underpaying me. Any of you guys ever deal with something like this?
Realized I never followed up on this and I'm sure yous guys were all holding your breath.
I got in touch with the guy who did the audit and long story short is that I was paid correctly.
1. Salaried employees are only paid 1/2 time for overtime instead of time and a half.
2. The auditor determined that my first position with the company was eligible for overtime, but after I got promoted, that new position did not rate OT pay.
So the amount they paid me was based on 10hrs of OT each week for roughly the first 9 months I worked there. I definitely put in more than 50 hours each week....probably like 55....but we weren't required to clock in/out and the only way I could really prove that I worked those extra hours would be if I still had access to my work email because I could show emails that I was sending out after my normal shift ended. Only would have been a couple hundred extra though so I'm not really sweating it.
im convinced I work for the dumbest of the stupid. one upper management decision after another one blowing up in our faces for year end.
now its 12pm and because of our inept OPS, that's it. month and year are over.
now I get to sit here for till 4:30 because numbers are bad and they wont let anyone leave early, but nobody can submit anything to the system after 12.
oh and upper management is all leaving at 1.
^ Self-employment does have its drawbacks. ^
Quote from: Rome on December 30, 2016, 03:04:57 PM
^ Self-employment does have its drawbacks. ^
:fire :bash
hahaha
I love my job... until Jan. 9.
Quote from: Sgt PSN on December 20, 2016, 01:47:20 PM
That sucks. How long were you with them? Did you get any kind of severance?
Only my position was eliminated. As such, I am still an employee, but am not allowed to perform any work related tasks. If I do not find another position within the company by the end of February, then my employment will also be terminated and the severance package will be presented. I'm essentially getting paid my normal salary to look for a new job for two months. I'll have the assistance from Human Resources in identifying positions internally, and they procured the services of an outside agency to assist in placement externally. Other than the fact that I actually loved my role, this isn't a bad gig.
Through the internal Priority Candidate Placement Process, my name has been submitted for a position in Tucson, AZ. Has anybody spent enough time in Tucson to be able to comment on what kind of town it is?
Sorry I've never been to Arizona except to connect on flights
What kind of work do you do?
I almost got my boss to change my title to Badassador for a month, but the process is apparently too much of a PITA. My title was Engineering Team Lead, but it was more project management than anything.
That would've been funny
It's cool they're being so proactive in helping locate something else for ya
Agreed...some of the co-workers who where also laid off are basically saying "farg this company", but I have no complaints about how they're handling it. Why try to make something personal when it's just business.
good luck hawk.
I have a buddy who moved from Denver to Tucson. I know it's really cheap to live there. It's a small city but the weather is nice (high desert climate) and the people aren't bad plus the food is good. I was only there for a few days but I liked it. I'd rather live in Flagstaff personally but you could do worse. Good luck, dude.
Cars don't rust out there.
That sounds like a pretty amazing parachute they're giving you. Not many companies would do something like that these days.
(In my case, I was being targeted by my funhole boss for eventual firing. I was hoping for a layoff, knowing that a decent severance would have helped my transition to another career. But rather than pay me, they just laid so much crap work on me that I couldn't perform to "expectations." I left before she could bring the axe down, but a friend of mine stayed until he was fired. And they've since laid everybody else off and disbanded the entire department.)
Have you thought about government work? The way things are going with DoD related activities, there is a real need for competent project managers in the civilian employee ranks. I'm half thinking of shoring up my PM training and see if I can get into something like that.
I don't know about Tuscon, but Phoenix is a pretty good area. I can't imagine that Tuscon is awful. In fact, I think it was noted a while back as a good place to retire, so the cost of living can't be ungodly bad.
if you are thinking government it pretty much has to be something in dod or homeland/national security because theres going to be a four year hiring freeze across the rest of the govt....of course if that happens it will make getting jobs that are allowed to be filed even harder...probably have better luck going the contractor route
Quote from: Susquehanna Birder on January 13, 2017, 11:00:10 AM
That sounds like a pretty amazing parachute they're giving you. Not many companies would do something like that these days.
Not only that, but if I do get the job in Tucson, my company will pay for relocation which includes buying my current house if it doesn't sell quickly enough.
I haven't considered government work, but wouldn't be opposed to it.
A few different people I used to work with have scheduled interviews with me next week for open positions at their respective companies so at worst, I'll only be Funemployed through the end of February.
I haven't had the need for a job in over a year. Maybe once my squaw is recovered from surgery I'll go find a part time gig at Lowe's or Best Buy so I can get a sweet employee discount, but other than that farg jobs.
Quote from: Sgt PSN on January 13, 2017, 03:12:11 PM
I haven't had the need for a job in over a year. Maybe once my squaw is recovered from surgery I'll go find a part time gig at Lowe's or Best Buy so I can get a sweet employee discount, but other than that farg jobs.
liberals. ::)
I think the word you're looking for is retiree.
Quote from: Sgt PSN on January 13, 2017, 03:26:03 PM
I think the word you're looking for is retiree.
:yay
After spending last year as a LTS for a Spec Ed teacher and then getting hired part way through the year as a Spec Ed teacher, I'm moving on to a Spec Ed Social Studies position at a different school. Bummed to be leaving the school I was at, but happy to finally be teaching the subject matter I want to teach.
Quote from: Munson on August 31, 2017, 05:27:49 PM
After spending last year as a LTS for a Spec Ed teacher and then getting hired part way through the year as a Spec Ed teacher, I'm moving on to a Spec Ed Social Studies position at a different school. Bummed to be leaving the school I was at, but happy to finally be teaching the subject matter I want to teach.
Make sure you tell everyone on CVON since they're so interested in your life.
As a side note I am officially done with that place. I hope somebody takes over the Trump countdown in my place
lol I'm sure it'll come up in discussion again soon. They do love my life over there.
Place really is a cesspool. When I first started posting there there was at least some decent policy discussions, but now...yeesh.
That's because the people who "moderate" it are Trump lovers. The worst decision they ever made was reinstating that board and permitting neo-nazis to run wild.
I'm still a mod although I have no idea why I haven't logged in in over a year. No idea who the others are except for Ed, PFFB, pargo and Paco
Munson when are you and paco going out for drinks
CVON?
Quote from: SD on August 31, 2017, 07:43:30 PM
I'm still a mod although I have no idea why I haven't logged in in over a year. No idea who the others are except for Ed, PFFB, pargo and Paco
Munson when are you and paco going out for drinks
:-D
Whenever he invites me. Dude could have banned me by now if he actually thought what I said was that egregious.
I actually liked him a lot from back in the day but then he revealed he voted for Trump/cheered when Hillary lost just because it was Hillary.....those types of people piss me off more than the inbred white racist types. At least the inbred racists voted for Trump for a legit reason, instead of the "lol it'll piss off all those pompous democraps!" bs.
FYI posting laughing smiling faces doesnt make you any less of a douche
Just to be clear, the inbred racists did not vote for Trump for a legit reason
Quote from: Tomahawk on September 01, 2017, 12:06:36 AM
Just to be clear, the inbred racists did not vote for Trump for a legit reason
True...but voting for one guy just to piss the other side off, even though you know well enough to know you're voting for a monster is on another level of awful. The racists at least have an excuse of being dumb horrible excuses of human beings who actually believe in what they're voting for. Other people should know better.
Almost 7 years with the VA, love my job. Have received an exceptional review every month, quarter, and year. Received letters from the undersecretary, given awards etc. We're given errors by our quality team. They gave me two critical errors last month, both were clearly mistakes on their part, so I submitted a rebuttal. They're slow getting answers back, so my monthly review says "performance not met"...first time in 7 years. So since I have to wait on them I'm refusing to sign my negative monthly performance review. Don't really see how it's fair I have to sign something saying I wasn't successful when it's going to be refuted and overturned. Anyway, now I'm being contacted by everyone so I emailed the director with a statement. This should be fun.
Sounds like the scene in Band Of Brothers where Dick Winters tells Ross from Friends to cram it.
oh man i hope your hr rep isnt a woman
Quote from: MDS on December 19, 2017, 02:47:28 PM
oh man i hope your hr rep isnt a woman
She is, and we're friends. I see her at Parx from time to time. She's awesome. Director is female too, been in the news quite a bit. She's actually a great Director and very personable. Anyway, she emailed me back saying she understands my concerns, don't sign it, and yes I can submit a statement saying why I refuse to sign it. She also told me they had a town hall meeting today and 90% of the questions were about the quality review teams so it's an issue they're addressing immediately.
Now they're threatening us with performance letters and termination for mistakes that are pending review and we can do nothing about. #MAGA.
Quote from: AO1 on December 20, 2017, 11:37:09 AM
Now they're threatening us with performance letters and termination for mistakes that are pending review and we can do nothing about. #MAGA.
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He was mentioned during our meeting. The new VA accountability law, which is from horrible service at VA hospitals and upper management at Regional Offices is now rolling downhill. 50% of the VA doesn't make their points or quality, so I guess they're firing half their work force and starting over. 25% of people who do my job don't last past one year. Good luck finding quality people who want to deal with this mess.
somehow, when the shtein hits the fan there, i feel he will blame the black guy who proceeded him.
Okay y'all, I need a little help. I'm going further out on my own. Been technically self-employed for a long time, but got most of my work subbing as carpenter and project manager to a G.C. who drives a truck and sells jobs but never picks up a tool. He was the money man that found clients, paid bills, etc. As such, he was the keeper of all the numbers, maker of bills and contracts, check on material prices, etc....I went very little into all that because I had my hands full with site management, subcontractor scheduling and management, and then of course, actual labor building shtein.
I billled my guy an hourly rate, got a 1099, etc. He kept me pretty busy so I rarely did my own jobs.
That relationship is waning and now I'm taking more jobs of my own. I'm licensed, incorporated (sole owner LLC), insured, etc. All the work I'm talking about here is residential in the Baltimore Annapolis corridor.
Here's my question: what's a fair rate for what I do? What is the rate for a good (but not master Jedi) carpenter where you live?
I'm chewing on a spreadsheet, trying to figure out what my overhead is, and that's easy enough I guess.
Ultimately, I have to just decide what my labor is worth, my knees, my shoulders, my experience, but it would be helpful if I had some ideas of what people think is a fair rate.
Appreciate any help you can offer
Congrats on stepping out a little further.
I will talk to some of my guys and see what they charge for their rates and let you know.
$50-$75/hour sounds right for your professional level.
Texas is gonna be a very different market, but I look forward to whatever you learn.
I know I've been billed out at $65/hour, but I'm curious about how close that is to what other's are doing.
My buddy does work in Philly, his brother is an LLC carpenter, does most of his work in the city or Bucks County. He says he usually charges $25-40 an hour. He said he has nightmare projects (my door frames needed to be adjusted because the house was built in 1976 and had the original doors and they no longer manufacture doors that fit...custom built doors were too expensive). For stuff like that he says he charges the $40 hour rate. He also takes travel time and equipment into consideration. Everyone I know who's a contractor has more work than they can handle. I don't know if you're in that situation but look at ways to get the word out. Stuff like facebook is free to make your own business page.
Most of the guys I deal with don't charge hourly, they'll usually give an overall price for the project.
Holy crap, that's inexpensive. How do they pay for insurance, licensing, a truck, taxes, health care, tools, etc?
I've learned to be wary of flat rate bids in renovation. If I"m going to build someone a fence, or a garden shed or something, then I can figure an accurate cost and time, because it's all under my control and there are only so many surprises that coulf farg me. But when dealing with existing structures and other peoples' prior work, I won't do anything but time and materials plus a percentage for profit. Too much room for surprises, etc.
I'll shoot him a text to see if that's his sub contract rate or regular hourly rate. He might not be doing much work on his own at this point. Every project I've had done was a general overall cost.
Quote from: AO1 on February 12, 2018, 10:37:44 AMif that's his sub contract rate or regular hourly rate.
I'm realizing that I need to have a few rates. A rate as a sub, for just me to show up with tools and work. Another, as the principal and contract holder. Another for friends/family/non-profits.
At the bottom of all this what I really don't know is how much my work is worth....I know for a fact I've gotten a certain amount but have I been the beneficiary of my guy finding really good work, or is the work I've done on par...I literally don't know.
Most people I've talked to about this are confirming that $60 per hour is not outrageous...and I know my plumber is $100 per hour, my electrician $125, our HVAC guys bill out around $100...painters at like $35, etc. So I'm starting to feel comfortable thinking in the $60 range...but holy farg that strikes me as a lot of money. As in, even if I were getting paid that rate, I couldn't afford myself.
How the farg does anyone make a living?
Quote from: Diomedes on February 12, 2018, 10:43:56 AM
Quote from: AO1 on February 12, 2018, 10:37:44 AMif that's his sub contract rate or regular hourly rate.
How the farg does anyone make a living?
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Quote from: Diomedes on February 12, 2018, 10:43:56 AM
How the farg does anyone make a living?
Here's his response word for word: "Gotcha. I guess it who ya find. I pay him 25 to 30 an hour cash. He is union so reg rate is high cause of total package probably 80 an hour but that's insurance and pension and all. Cash most guys I would think 200 to 300 a day"
just got my first leave and earnings statement since my 15 year anniversary in the govt. and im officially up to 8 hrs vacation leave per check now
of course i might not have a job by the time the trump presidency is over
Quote from: ice grillin you on February 13, 2018, 07:33:23 AM
just got my first leave and earnings statement since my 15 year anniversary in the govt. and im officially up to 8 hrs vacation leave per check now
of course i might not have a job by the time the trump presidency is over
I hit mine last year because my 9 years military service counts. Greatest thing ever.
Quote from: Diomedes on February 12, 2018, 10:43:56 AM
Quote from: AO1 on February 12, 2018, 10:37:44 AMif that's his sub contract rate or regular hourly rate.
I'm realizing that I need to have a few rates. A rate as a sub, for just me to show up with tools and work. Another, as the principal and contract holder. Another for friends/family/non-profits.
At the bottom of all this what I really don't know is how much my work is worth....I know for a fact I've gotten a certain amount but have I been the beneficiary of my guy finding really good work, or is the work I've done on par...I literally don't know.
Most people I've talked to about this are confirming that $60 per hour is not outrageous...and I know my plumber is $100 per hour, my electrician $125, our HVAC guys bill out around $100...painters at like $35, etc. So I'm starting to feel comfortable thinking in the $60 range...but holy farg that strikes me as a lot of money. As in, even if I were getting paid that rate, I couldn't afford myself.
How the farg does anyone make a living?
Plumbers and electricians get to charge more than carpenters but if you were getting billed out at 65, you should charge at least 85 if not a little higher. Making trick shtein like that sweet screen/fence should let you charge more than stupid framing
And if you're making cabinets, tailor the rate to the suckers buying them
Sent an email to my supervisor and front office today telling them about my agencies deficiencies and ways I think they can improve. It was 2 pages long, extremely detailed, and I took feedback from my fellow employees. I'm a gs 12 now and next step would be a supervisor role which I'm not interested in...I'm the top performer at my station so not really worried about blowback. They passed the PACT act and life has been a nightmare. We had a townhall today where they kept patting themselves on the back and that just didn't sit well with a lot of employees.