in which I intend to mock god worship in all it's flavors, from Zeus to Scientology
lets begin with this distillation of theological thought:
http://www.youtube.com/watch/v/JJxCFa8YmbQ
do you think mary liked anal?
Hey I'm all for the pantheon. At least their stories were cool.
Perseus, Theseus, Jason, Heracles.
Why? What's the value in mocking others' beliefs?
until I see physical proof that this man God is real, I will continue to believe otherwise..and the closest Ive come so far is Kevin Curtis..so the journey continues
I consider myself a Christian, you'll never see me trying to convert anyone and I avoid Church like the plague but when you seperate the cultural bullshtein that's become Christianity and get down to the reason humans are on Earth I haven't found a better explanation than the one I've found in the New Testament. I've studied the rise of Christianity from the time it was practiced underground to Constantine to Martin Luther. I think Martin Luther got it right with the Protestant Reformation. In my opinion religion should have no place in politics. I think more people should practice what Jesus actually taught than they should the other supersticious nonsense.
I realize I just left myself open to being mocked and dridicule so I'll throw this out there: Why does a planet like Earth that's full of life exist in the middle of nowhere? Why are we here? How did we get here? If you don't believe in a religous reason that's more than fine, but I'm curious to what other people believe. I'm a believer in the Big Bang. At some point comets struck the Earth, water was formed, life came from water, we evolved. So I guess there's a start.
I'd be lying if I said I wasn't on the edge of my seat waiting for Dio's answer.
SD, that pretty much sums up my thoughts. I really could care less about the way others believe. I am not mocing them, they don't need to mock me. There is plenty of other stuff to mock me about. People like Dio mock fundamentalists and zealots with a fervor showing that anti-religion is actually their religion.
I do not deny the possibility of a God. If anything the more you study science and how things relate to everything the design just brings more questions. I do however think that most organized religion is based on stories some based on historical fact and some grand superstitious mumbo jumbo. I have no more proof of anything then anyone else and my thoughts on the subject work for me and are not meant to discredit what anyone else thinks or believes.
Do I think someone died for our sins? No. If they did it's not really gotten us anywhere. We're the same messed up collection of misfits we were 2000 years ago.
God hates the Eagles.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0kHhc67GopM (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0kHhc67GopM)
Religion has ruined faith.
That is all.
I respect people's right to believe what they want, but most religions I know are completely illogical and stupid to me.
i dont understand geometry but i also dont think god invented it...why because something cant be explained does it mean some made up mysterious force has to be brought into the equation...some things just are
I don't believe any of this was just an accident...I think some sort of higher power had a hand in it. But I believe religion has made a mockery of whatever God there is.
Anybody who really believes that God cares how much sex someone has before they get married is not only ignorant, but arrogant. God is presumably a supreme being with an entire universe to work with and create humans and whatever such creatures he wants on any planet he wants....What really makes you think he gives a damn about you outside being part of his life experiment?
The ones that say that people don't believe in THEIR religion, are "going to hell", really get me going. God created us with a higher level of thinking, an ability to question and wonder....and he's going to send the majority of us to eternal damnation because we USED that gift? Hah. Nice.
Of course, when I bring that point up, I get the classic "That's just what I beleive, what I was taught."
Sweet. White people in the South were taught to hate black people and believed they were lower level human beings. Doesn't make it true, OR okay to believe.
I believe in an after life...I am not sure, however, if I believe in heaven or hell.
Us vs. them, boogeyman centric religion is bad. Using faith in place of (or in spit of) logic and reason is bad. Still, there is a place for community oriented spirituality in this world.
Quote"We, the member congregations of the Unitarian Universalist Association, covenant to affirm and promote
* The inherent worth and dignity of every person;
* Justice, equity and compassion in human relations;
* Acceptance of one another and encouragement to spiritual growth in our congregations;
* A free and responsible search for truth and meaning;
* The right of conscience and the use of the democratic process within our congregations and in society at large;
* The goal of world community with peace, liberty and justice for all;
* Respect for the interdependent web of all existence of which we are a part."
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v101/ananumuss/md_4DinoGod.jpg)
I love Jesus.
Jesus saves sinners and redeems them for valuable cash prizes.
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on January 18, 2009, 09:16:31 PM
God hates the Eagles.
That's because they're owned by a Jew & run by a Mormon.
DOUBLE FAIL.
Mormons worship God, but I think they also worship that Joe guy.
Quote from: FastFreddie on January 25, 2009, 05:47:51 PM
Mormons worship God, but I think they also worship that Joe guy.
Banner?
Yeah well who doesn't?
Religion is fascinating in theory. As something to study, it is the height of intellectual pursuit. Its possibilities endless.
In the real world it's simultaneously boring and infuriating.
Similar to politics, actually.
Quote from: rjs246 on January 25, 2009, 09:56:35 PMAs something to study, it is the height of intellectual pursuit.
No. Mathematics, Physics, Biology, I can think of a host of things that surpass religion.
From a psychological study on its effects on people and what it aims to accomplish I think it is all those things but that is more from the outside looking in.
Quote from: Diomedes on January 25, 2009, 10:04:26 PM
Quote from: rjs246 on January 25, 2009, 09:56:35 PMAs something to study, it is the height of intellectual pursuit.
No. Mathematics, Physics, Biology, I can think of a host of things that surpass religion.
Yeah, there's no way I could possibly disagree with this more. These things are all finite. Religion offers the possiblity of the infinite. It's no comparison.
It's no more lofty than philosophy, and that's only good for a couple years before you move on to grown up subjects.
Philosophy is essentially religion, without the mystical voodoo hocus pocus. More courage and faith is required for religion. Philosophy is for people who think they're too smart for religion and are actually too dumb to see that they are essentially the same thing.
Essentially!
Quote from: rjs246 on January 25, 2009, 10:31:21 PM
Philosophy is essentially religion, without the mystical voodoo hocus pocus. More courage and faith is required for religion. Philosophy is for people who think they're too smart for religion and are actually too dumb to see that they are essentially the same thing.
mind blown
More courage? Ha.
They both amount to mental masturbation if you keep at them longer than a couple years in your youth. Nothing terribly high brow about spending decades diddling yourself with books about god worship or the nature of being.
religion is intellectual?
thats funniest thing ive ever heard
religion is no more intellectual than reading a harry potter book
the only difference is its taken more seriously...where as potter is seen as pure entertainment
I'm talking about the study of religion smart stuff, not the act of being religious.
vigy is onto something there. What's the difference between Harry Potter fantasy tales and god worship fantasy tales?
Not farging much.
Let the Potterites have some time to study it, create a library of theories and essays on it, gain a bunch of converts and presto...Harry Potter joins the ranks of the highest intellectual pursuits.
It's all bullshtein. Potter, Odin, the great Spirit, the Bible. Utter bullshtein, propped up by ages of habit and so called academia.
Look at Star Wars. Some crazy apes created a religion around it already.
Give 'em a few hundred years and rjs will consider people who study it to be engaged in the highest form of intellectual endeavor.
Settle down, monkeys. Religion has defined the majority of human experience for thousands of years. But you're right. Studying that type of phenomenon is just like reading Harry Potter.
Glad you came around.
also...defined human experience...ha. What does that even mean? Religion defines the experience humans have of birth? Of death? Of farging a hot bitch? Religion defines taste, pain? Religion defines colors, motion?
Come on.
weather has defined the human experience for thousnds of years but i wouldnt call it intellectual...then again mother nature might be one deep and thoughful bitch for all i know
the study of weather is far more intellectually challenging than the study of god worship, that's for farg sure.
weather is some complicated, fact based shtein. religion is simple mumbo jumbo made to seem complicated by "people of faith" twisting their dick brains into pretzels to explain and understand imaginary shtein.
Historically speaking and from an anthropological perspective it is very intellectual. Don't worry sodomites. Your not validating it by admiting that it is a facinating study of the human condition.
Well it's academic. I don't know how intellectual it is. And yes, it's fascinating in a "see how they run" kind of way. But I don't consider it anything like the highest form of intellectual pursuit.
Yeah, I think RJS is thinking more of sociology than religion, although the two are closely tied.
Playing devil's advocate, what makes a religion bad? (hows that for irony?)
- Bogey-man god figure?
- Scripture?
- Rituals?
- Moral guidance?
- Evangelism?
- Social community?
Therefore, by extension, can you eliminate what is "bad" about religion, yet still have religion?
The only bad thing about religion is those who want to cram it down your throat and think your evil and blastphamist if you don't conform to their way of balling like a baby with your hands in the air and throwing yourself down rolling across the floor every Sunday. I luv the way people who go to church on Sunday make them think it gives them the right to look down their noses at you because you want to drink beer and smoke cigars. My ex in-laws were holy rollers like that.
Otherwise it's harmless.
Social community is easily the thing on that list that pops out to me as the principle benefit to believers and society generally, so long as we define it as social and not military or political. Insofar as reglious groups involve themselves in military and political concerns, the result is universally bad.
But as a social community, I'm not as critical. Church communities do a hell of a lot of good, that I don't deny. The soup kitchen I volunteer with is full of them. I rather enjoy it when we all introduce ourselves, most of these people telling me they go so such and such parish or synagogue. I tell them I'm there as an atheist from a community of one, and I enjoy the puzzled looks I get. They literally feed 500 to 800 homeless and working poor every day, straight out of churches in the area. It's a community thing for them. They enjoy giving some help to people and it's an excuse for them to get together. Nothing wrong with that.
Unfortunately it has to be said that without church, without believing in magic, these people would not likely be enjoying community companionship, or helping anyone.
People suck.
http://www.youtube.com/watch/v/DQ4WOOceGis
Marjoe...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KxfThlCcfHI&feature=related
Watched 'Friends of God: A Road Trip with Alexandra Pelosi' this afternoon. They wrapped up 90% of what I hate about religion in an hour and a half.
Right wing nazi corksuckers are torching that movie so it must be good.
In.
Don't let God disappear...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pkCuc34hvD4&feature=email
Dio, tell the truth... you snuck in that hall before the revival and spiked the punch with a bunch of shrooms didn't you?
An atheist meets God....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=urlTBBKTO68&feature=channel
Quote from: ATV on March 03, 2009, 02:16:58 PM
Don't let God disappear...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pkCuc34hvD4&feature=email
Quote from: ATV on March 04, 2009, 09:05:43 PM
An atheist meets God....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=urlTBBKTO68&feature=channel
good stuff...the shot of the guy taking shots in the first one is funny
More good stuff....
http://www.funnyordie.com/videos/ca861703b8/religion-from-danny
Religulous was really good and you atheist will love it.
The concept of that movie puzzles me. Who is it meant for? I haven't seen it and won't because I already figured all that shtein out years ago. Don't need Maher to preach to me what I know, and don't care to spend two hours laughing at religous idiocy.
I don't know that it's meant for any specific group, although at the end he makes a plea for those on the fence to come to his side and for Atheists to speak their minds. It's basically him going around to the different religous sects, interviewing them, and mocking them. I eat that shtein up.
Quote from: ATV on March 04, 2009, 09:05:43 PM
An atheist meets God....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=urlTBBKTO68&feature=channel
Dio, i couldn't help but crack up at 1:15 in. " I worked at a homeless shelter for like 10 years" :-D Holy ish, I couldn't help but think of you standing there saying that line. Not being a fleshpop, just thought it was funny. The entire video is funny too.
Quote from: SD_Eagle on March 13, 2009, 07:35:36 PM
I don't know that it's meant for any specific group, although at the end he makes a plea for those on the fence to come to his side and for Atheists to speak their minds. It's basically him going around to the different religous sects, interviewing them, and mocking them. I eat that shtein up.
I like the idea of telling atheists they ought to speak up. It would be great fun for the Super Bowl winning QB to say, "thanks to my team and my awesome arm for winning this game, God had nothing to do with it, we won it ourselves." Of course, he'd be censored and lynched by the so-called liberal media, and then possibly lynched in real life by the religious zealots. And of course, it's not gonna happen.
I too like to mock superstitious people. That's what this thread is all about. But I stop short of paying to see someone do it. I wouldn't pay to see someone shoot fish in a barrel.
I'm going to heaven. Wanna come along?
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-1323610787293242744
Quote from: shorebird on January 26, 2009, 10:01:56 PM
The only bad thing about religion is those who want to cram it down your throat and think your evil and blastphamist if you don't conform to their way of balling like a baby with your hands in the air and throwing yourself down rolling across the floor every Sunday. I luv the way people who go to church on Sunday make them think it gives them the right to look down their noses at you because you want to drink beer and smoke cigars. My ex in-laws were holy rollers like that.
Otherwise it's harmless.
don't forget that nearly every major injustice throughout human history was done so in the name of one religion or another.
but if there is any single reason that i despise religion, it's because it tells women not to be sluts.
Christianity on the downturn in the United States. (http://www.newsweek.com/id/192583)
Quote from: rjs246 on April 08, 2009, 08:45:54 AM
Christianity on the downturn in the United States. (http://www.newsweek.com/id/192583)
The Gods don't like being ignored. REPENT!!
Maybe later. I'm busy watching pornography and mixing dairy with pork.
jeebus love in new england has been on the decline since rusty moved in. coincidence?
If I were religious, and he moved in to my neighborhood, I'd probably start thinking there was no God too.
I am all powerful.
Which is why you get soap on a rope every year for Christmas.
Too bad he doesn't take the hint.
Please Jesus, save us from the pinko gays...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mI261VU0AZA&feature=player_embedded
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0PgjcgqFYP4
this is an ad that was being aired in cali before the elections and regardless of what side of the fence you stand on, it's hard to argue that this isn't one of most rediculous pieces of propaganda ever.
personally, i don't give a crap if gay people want to get married or not as long as they are eligible for the same tax breaks and benefits that married couples recieve.
they will teach your son to be gay. this will happen. lol, whats scary is the people that believe that.
One of these people is completely full of shtein and stopped paying attention to genuine history after leaving High School...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ISylK4g6UM&feature=player_embedded
surprise surprise, it's the black guy!!
we have constant door-to-door solicitations in my neighborhood. everything from encyclopedias to grass seed. i just happened to have 2 show up at the same time. some white lady and her daughter trying to sell me jesus and a mexican trying to sell me fertilizer.
ironic, ain't it?
Did you make them mud wrestle for your money?
he doused them all in fertilizer and then showered them with holy water
it burns, burns
Ring of Fire?
That would be burns, burns, burns. It was probably Montezuma's Revenge.
Happy Easter heathens
infidel swine
Deviled eggs are delicious.
Quote from: Sgt PSN on April 11, 2009, 01:55:04 PM
we have constant door-to-door solicitations in my neighborhood. everything from encyclopedias to grass seed. i just happened to have 2 show up at the same time. some white lady and her daughter trying to sell me jesus and a mexican trying to sell me fertilizer.
ironic, ain't it?
Last Saturday two of the hottest hispanic chicks I've ever laid eyes on knocked on my door to see if I wanted to listen to some sermon in Spanish. I took the flier then fantasized about banging them for the rest of the day.
opportunity quite literally came knocking and all you got from it was a farging pamphlet and carpal tunnel?
Want to see even more people pretending to be a straight person hurt by gay marriage? Fast forward to 3:05.....
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/22425001/vp/30145786#30145786
Christopher Hitchens pwning Fox "News" tool....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4eBmyABeAa4
In all fairness, not a fair fight.
Quote from: rjs246 on April 12, 2009, 01:28:19 PM
Deviled eggs are delicious.
It's amazing too me how after eating about half a dozen, that my farts smell like rotten ones.
(http://i289.photobucket.com/albums/ll213/dahawkfords/misc/IMG_5424.jpg)
Christ, churches are as bad as Bush was in fear mongering
Catholicism, by comparison, is an incredibly liberal faith. (http://www.latimes.com/news/opinion/commentary/la-oe-rutten25-2009apr25,0,2222655.story) Putting a top priority on helping the less fortunate is what differentiates Catholicism from other forms of Christianity. This country's obsession with abortion threatens to change that.
why cant all zealouts be this practical....
"A physician acting in good faith to save a pregnant woman's life, and using his or her best medical judgment, should not be subject to later criminal prosecution," said Sebelius, explaining why she vetoed the bill. She is a practicing Catholic who personally opposes abortion. She argues, however, that such opposition does not relieve her of a legal obligation to veto legislation she thinks is unconstitutional."
Quote from: ice grillin you on April 28, 2009, 11:07:48 AM
why cant all zealouts be this practical....
"A physician acting in good faith to save a pregnant woman's life, and using his or her best medical judgment, should not be subject to later criminal prosecution," said Sebelius, explaining why she vetoed the bill. She is a practicing Catholic who personally opposes abortion. She argues, however, that such opposition does not relieve her of a legal obligation to veto legislation she thinks is unconstitutional."
separation of church and state at it's finest.
Quote from: rjs246 on April 12, 2009, 01:28:19 PM
Deviled eggs are delicious.
This reminds me of an awesome TOOL song, where the title alone caused a huge stir awhile ago about it's Satanic messages with the zealots:
http://www.youtube.com/v/VATb8PwzbDk&hl=en&fs=1&rel=0
Translated into English:
Quote
The Eggs of Satan
Half a cup of powdered sugar
One quarter teaspoon of salt
One pinch Turkish hashish
One half pound of butter
One teaspoon of vanilla sugar
One half pound of flour
150 grams ground nuts
A little extra powdered sugar
... and no eggs
Place in a bowl
Stir in butters
Mix in ground nuts and
Knead the dough
Mold into Eye Ball sized balls
Roll in the powdered sugar and
Say the magic word
Abracadabra
Put on a greased griddle and
Bake for fifteen minutes at two hundred degrees
and NO EGGS
Bake for fifteen minutes at two hundred degrees
and no eggs..
Church goers more likely to be ok with torture. (http://www.cnn.com/2009/US/04/30/religion.torture/index.html)
Well no shtein. The bible is the most violent book this side of Blood Meridian. Oh and anything the Right does is ok by many church goers. farging people. I swear.
That's an easy one. The Christian Right is scared to death of the "Muzzies". As far as they (they being mainly Walmart shopping, trailer living, fag hating, and stillupfront whispering) are concerned, Muslims are savages (see torture thread).
Quote from: PPinDC on April 28, 2009, 01:02:50 PM
This reminds me of an awesome TOOL song, where the title alone caused a huge stir awhile ago about it's Satanic messages with the zealots:
ever try this recipe?
are you kidding? hash is harder to find in the U.S. than mushrooms
wasn't hard to find when I lived in San Diego...sure you can figure out why
Churchgoers more likely to back torture, survey finds...
http://cnnwire.blogs.cnn.com/2009/04/30/churchgoers-more-likely-to-back-torture-survey-finds/
why am I not surprised
Dear Idiot-
I already posted that.
Kill yourself.
Love,
rjs246
Oops. Sorry, Sir.
thou shalt not kill
Did anybody kiss Hank's ass yesterday? I think I remember hearing that he likes it best when you do that on Sundays...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vdCA5xAsw8I&feature=related
Jesus saves sinners and redeems them for valuable cash prizes.
Today, Rep. Randy Forbes of Virginia, the Founder and Chairman of the Congressional Prayer Caucus, and twenty-four other members of the House of Representatives, co-sponsored a resolution in Congress that would "affirm the rich spiritual and religious history of our Nation's founding and subsequent history and express support for designation of the first week in May as America's Spiritual Heritage Week for the appreciation of and education on America's history of religious faith."
The resolution, H.RES. 397, would put Congress on record as "recognize[ing] the religious foundations of faith on which America was built are critical underpinnings of our Nation's most valuable institutions and form the inseparable foundation for America's representative processes, legal systems, and societal structures."
In addition, the resolution "rejects, in the strongest possible terms, any effort to remove, obscure, or purposely omit such history from our Nation's public buildings and educational resources" and justifies the need to keep "under God" in the pledge.
Who farging cares?
I like 'under allah' better
I'd vote for "under cover."
(http://photos-a.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc1/hs115.snc1/4841_91831148203_552258203_2006128_5202575_n.jpg)
Fact: ATV's friends and family do everything they can to avoid spending time with him.
Untrue. I just don't have many friends.
Shocking.
That's not very nice.
You're implying I don't prefer it that way, though.
Enough about me. Religion is awesome.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V5rF_X-8LiI
Watch until at least 1:08...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eaeJ60Zazvk
Praise Jesus.
awful
awful can't even describe it, you need a new word invented to describe that.
I'm going to go shoot myself
possessed by the devil
Hahaha. I haven't actually laughed at a clip in a while but that brought a good chuckle.
I don't think that song rhymed.
sweet fancy moses
I liked it
I love Jesus more than anyone else.
and Jesus loves you.
(http://pictures.mastermarf.com/blog/2009/090511-religious-logic.jpg)
Don't forget to "pray over" your next candybar before you eat it...
http://www.koco.com/cnn-news/21234392/detail.html#
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cVjuO5v5Cts&feature=player_embedded
its really, really scary people think like this
Wow, Brit Hume is a fargstick, who knew?
Surprise surprise. Maybe he can sneak onto the Eagles flight home, so I can kill him too.
today's game was enough proof for me to believe that there is a god. and he hates the eagles. and me. and you.
Quote from: MDS on January 03, 2010, 05:43:53 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cVjuO5v5Cts&feature=player_embedded
its really, really scary people think like this
that is beyond belief
it's not beyond belief at all. it's hysterically funny and complete bullshtein but it's hardly unbelievable. that's how fargtards like brit hume think the universe works. that way they can sin all they want and as long as they're true to their retarded superstitious beliefs, they'll somehow be forgiven.
good for them.
the simplistic ignorance of religious people amazes me. i honestly dont know if its better to turn off my brain and join in or sit on the sidelines and mock them.
Quote from: Sgt PSN on January 03, 2010, 08:50:45 PM
today's game was enough proof for me to believe that there is a god. and he hates the eagles. and me. and you.
Not me, I'm awesome.
he hates you most of all for creating this website. repent now and save yourself!
That's too much work.
Quote from: Rome on January 03, 2010, 09:34:51 PM
it's not beyond belief at all. it's hysterically funny and complete bullshtein but it's hardly unbelievable. that's how fargtards like brit hume think the universe works. that way they can sin all they want and as long as they're true to their retarded superstitious beliefs, they'll somehow be forgiven.
good for them.
its beyond belief that that is being said on major network television
Quote from: General_Failure on January 03, 2010, 10:36:31 PM
That's too much work.
You're not Buddhist are you? Because I don't think people of that faith like to work very much.
Quote from: ice grillin you on January 03, 2010, 10:37:44 PM
Quote from: Rome on January 03, 2010, 09:34:51 PM
it's not beyond belief at all. it's hysterically funny and complete bullshtein but it's hardly unbelievable. that's how fargtards like brit hume think the universe works. that way they can sin all they want and as long as they're true to their retarded superstitious beliefs, they'll somehow be forgiven.
good for them.
its beyond belief that that is being said on major network television
Who is network television for, if not crazy people?
saw this nut while driving around in the desert. HELL IS REAL!! lol
(http://lh3.ggpht.com/_Eo8q18IVFm8/S4B9JtHU_LI/AAAAAAAAEHg/zhfBWbVac_M/s640/fear%20god.jpg)
also meant to post these a few weeks ago but completely forgot. saw them on the shelves at wal mart.
(http://lh3.ggpht.com/_Eo8q18IVFm8/SwS6yS6dpOI/AAAAAAAACv8/W13SKgTi2uE/s800/Photo0004%20%282%29.jpg)
(http://lh3.ggpht.com/_Eo8q18IVFm8/SwS6zB8u_wI/AAAAAAAACwA/Frq9ss9tdFA/s800/Photo0005%20%282%29.jpg)
Oh, so that's God's son!
yes. available for only $14.97 + tax + your soul
But I already gave my soul at the office.
then you can't have one.
Quote from: Sgt PSN on February 20, 2010, 07:31:02 PM
saw this nut while driving around in the desert. HELL IS REAL!! lol
(http://lh3.ggpht.com/_Eo8q18IVFm8/S4B9JtHU_LI/AAAAAAAAEHg/zhfBWbVac_M/s640/fear%20god.jpg)
I remember seeing a similarly decorated vehicle around the Joshua Tree area a few years ago (I know for a fact that the guy has since departed this plane). Must be something in the air.
All people who drive Neons deserve to go to hell
I was listening to WIP the other day and they were discussing on whether or not professional athletes are/shouls be role models. Some guy called up and said athletes are not role models and that the only true role model of this world is Jesus. He said the world wouldn't be where it is today if everyone worshipped him.
Quote from: King Cole on February 21, 2010, 04:25:32 PM
He said the world wouldn't be where it is today if everyone worshipped him.
he's right. it would be a completely different world. we'd be a sober, sexually repressed society with long hippie hair and berkenstocks and the pope would be the richest man in the world, dictating to each of us how to live our lives. so if that's your eutopia then good on you. but for me, i'll gladly deal with the morons, idiots and nuts in this world in exchange for a glass of bourbon, shagging my g/f in the pooper, smoking a cig and going to sleep. .
Quote from: Sgt PSN on February 21, 2010, 05:01:41 PM
Quote from: King Cole on February 21, 2010, 04:25:32 PM
He said the world wouldn't be where it is today if everyone worshipped him.
he's right. it would be a completely different world. we'd be a sober, sexually repressed society with long hippie hair and berkenstocks and the pope would be the richest man in the world, dictating to each of us how to live our lives. so if that's your eutopia then good on you. but for me, i'll gladly deal with the morons, idiots and nuts in this world in exchange for a glass of bourbon, shagging my g/f in the pooper, smoking a cig and going to sleep. .
yup
Quote from: Drunkmasterflex on February 21, 2010, 05:54:01 PM
Quote from: Sgt PSN on February 21, 2010, 05:01:41 PM
Quote from: King Cole on February 21, 2010, 04:25:32 PM
He said the world wouldn't be where it is today if everyone worshipped him.
he's right. it would be a completely different world. we'd be a sober, sexually repressed society with long hippie hair and berkenstocks and the pope would be the richest man in the world, dictating to each of us how to live our lives. so if that's your eutopia then good on you. but for me, i'll gladly deal with the morons, idiots and nuts in this world in exchange for a glass of bourbon, shagging my g/f in the pooper, smoking a cig and going to sleep. .
yup
Nah, you guys got it all wrong. The problem isn't with Jesus, it's with the people that came after him. Jesus performed a miracle by turning water into wine at a wedding when the vino ran dry and before people were too blitzed to walk. I don't think it would be too much of a stretch to do the same thing with Makers Mark, so tell me you wouldn't want him at the next tailgate.
If you believe the Da Vinci code, he knocked up Mary Magdalene. He also reformed the money chislers and pompus clerical hiearchy.
Probably right about the Birkenstocks, but that's a pretty small price to pay for a world religion that rightfully has drinking and hookers as its basis.
i guess that's all true if you believe the da vinci code.....which i don't, other than the part about the catholic church being nothing more than the mafia hiding behind a cross. i don't know if the whole mary magdalene thing is true or not.
what i do think is that jesus was the world's first great magician/con man. maybe he pulled some david copperfield type shtein with the whole water to wine trick or something like that. and people just bought into it. i dunno. but one thing is for certain and it's that nearly every story about jesus is nothing more than a tall tale that spun out of control for years and years until someone actually put it in writing.
sorry bible thumpers, but the story of your jesus is no more true than paul bunyan or santa claus.
If Desean Jackson gets hit by lightening in the home opener, I'm holding you responsible.
that's cool. i'm just going to blame it on his bling.
Desean would probably outrun the lightening and pointing upward do an in yo face dance about it
does he dance before or after crossing the goal line?
awesome Jesus is my friend song (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7-NOZU2iPA8)
http://www.27bslash6.com/easter.html (http://www.27bslash6.com/easter.html)
QuoteAtheists, agnostics most knowledgeable about religion, survey says
If you want to know about God, you might want to talk to an atheist.
Heresy? Perhaps. But a survey that measured Americans' knowledge of religion found that atheists and agnostics knew more, on average, than followers of most major faiths. In fact, the gaps in knowledge among some of the faithful may give new meaning to the term "blind faith."
http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/nation/wire/sns-religion-survey,0,7375137.story
christine odonnel doubting evolution because she doesnt see any monkeys turning into people supports that survey
Quote from: Diomedes on September 28, 2010, 07:59:59 AM
QuoteAtheists, agnostics most knowledgeable about religion, survey says
If you want to know about God, you might want to talk to an atheist.
Heresy? Perhaps. But a survey that measured Americans' knowledge of religion found that atheists and agnostics knew more, on average, than followers of most major faiths. In fact, the gaps in knowledge among some of the faithful may give new meaning to the term "blind faith."
http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/nation/wire/sns-religion-survey,0,7375137.story
Knowing myself the way I do, I don't find this to be surprising at all. Pretty cool none the less.
QUIZ (http://features.pewforum.org/quiz/us-religious-knowledge/)
I got a 14/15.
I got the same. Knew as soon as I clicked that I got the Sabbath question wrong, and it annoyed me a little.
I didn't even check to see which one I got wrong. Whatever.
10 of 15. farg religion.
12. Apparently I don't know shtein about Judaism.
I only got an 8. Not surprising though because even when I was a "practicing" christian, I was never really interested in actually learning about any of it. I just wanted to go through the motions so I could get into heaven. And that's probably why agnostics/atheists know more about religion....I think there's a hell of a lot of people who claim to be religious but really aren't. They just go through the motions as well out of fear of going to hell. And they pray whenever they play the lotto. But whatever, I don't need to know everything about religion to know that it's not for me.
Quote from: Sgt PSN on September 30, 2010, 09:11:47 PM
I only got an 8. Not surprising though because even when I was a "practicing" christian, I was never really interested in actually learning about any of it. I just wanted to go through the motions so I could get into heaven. And that's probably why agnostics/atheists know more about religion....I think there's a hell of a lot of people who claim to be religious but really aren't. They just go through the motions as well out of fear of going to hell. And they pray whenever they play the lotto. But whatever, I don't need to know everything about religion to know that it's not for me.
that quiz has very little to do with religion in terms of needing to practice it or care about it to know the answers...its mostly just common knowledge...you dont need to practice any religion to know that pakistan is a muslim country moses parted the red sea and you cant have a prayer service in public schools
i got 9
you wont believe me but i got 15.
granted about 4/5 of the questions i wouldnt know without the multiple choice making it blatantly obvious. also i guess the 1-2 things about the juden helped.
Quote from: ice grillin you on September 30, 2010, 09:26:12 PM
Quote from: Sgt PSN on September 30, 2010, 09:11:47 PM
I only got an 8. Not surprising though because even when I was a "practicing" christian, I was never really interested in actually learning about any of it. I just wanted to go through the motions so I could get into heaven. And that's probably why agnostics/atheists know more about religion....I think there's a hell of a lot of people who claim to be religious but really aren't. They just go through the motions as well out of fear of going to hell. And they pray whenever they play the lotto. But whatever, I don't need to know everything about religion to know that it's not for me.
that quiz has very little to do with religion in terms of needing to practice it or care about it to know the answers...its mostly just common knowledge...you dont need to practice any religion to know that pakistan is a muslim country moses parted the red sea and you cant have a prayer service in public schools
i got 9
And yet based on the results most people don't even possess the common knowledge that you're talking about. So... not all that common.
12/15
Got 2 that I should have known wrong (The first great awakening, Mother Teresa's religion) and one that I honestly wasn't sure on (can a teacher read from the bible as an example of literature)
Quote from: rjs246 on September 30, 2010, 09:30:05 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on September 30, 2010, 09:26:12 PM
Quote from: Sgt PSN on September 30, 2010, 09:11:47 PM
I only got an 8. Not surprising though because even when I was a "practicing" christian, I was never really interested in actually learning about any of it. I just wanted to go through the motions so I could get into heaven. And that's probably why agnostics/atheists know more about religion....I think there's a hell of a lot of people who claim to be religious but really aren't. They just go through the motions as well out of fear of going to hell. And they pray whenever they play the lotto. But whatever, I don't need to know everything about religion to know that it's not for me.
that quiz has very little to do with religion in terms of needing to practice it or care about it to know the answers...its mostly just common knowledge...you dont need to practice any religion to know that pakistan is a muslim country moses parted the red sea and you cant have a prayer service in public schools
i got 9
And yet based on the results most people don't even possess the common knowledge that you're talking about. So... not all that common.
"mostly"
and most people are stupid
Oh right. I forgot how you hedge all of your proclamations just in case someone points out a glaring flaw in your logic. Carry on...
wow you really dont think most of those questions are common knowledge
im a dope...so 9 of them def are and i got a few of them wrong that most people would know...id say 11 to 12 are definitely common knowledge questions...which would...hold on for this....equal "most" of them
You are neato.
maybe russ is secretly stupid and we just didnt know it
fat and stupid is no way to go thru life
Quote from: MDS on September 30, 2010, 09:50:10 PM
maybe russ is secretly stupid and we just didnt know it
This is a secret?
you give off the impression that you believe you are intelligent
i generally agree because of your manly physique, but now im not so sure
I go to church with these guys...
(http://www.amoeba.com/dynamic-images/blog/Sarah/Black-Sabbath.jpg)
Sometimes they make me a bit paranoid, but they have good sweet leaf. It was so good after having some, I saw a bunch of fairies wearing boots.
the last question got me, otherwise it was a cakewalk
Quote from: FastFreddie on September 30, 2010, 08:48:27 PM
QUIZ (http://features.pewforum.org/quiz/us-religious-knowledge/)
I got a 14/15.
15/15 Catholic School with World Religion course paid off. Thanks Sister Barbara Ann
you're an idiot if you go to church
Quote from: MDS on October 01, 2010, 01:59:38 PM
you're an idiot if you go to temple.......either of them.
haaa, i see what you did there.
2 or 1
I went back to check which one I got wrong and was surprised to find out that the bible can be used at all in a public school.
(http://palmgoon.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/05/the_more_you_know2.jpg)
why couldnt a piece of a fiction be taught as fiction?
Quote from: FastFreddie on September 30, 2010, 08:48:27 PM
QUIZ (http://features.pewforum.org/quiz/us-religious-knowledge/)
I got a 14/15.
Same, I got the last one wrong. I chose Billy Graham because he was the only option of the 3 I've heard of.
Ssame problem I had, but I chose one of the other guys, figuring no way it was Billy Graham.
Quote from: MDS on October 01, 2010, 01:59:38 PM
you're an idiot if you go to church
Barrak Obama
barry is an idiot for pretending to be religious
Yeah, but if he didn't go to Christian church, then even more of MA would think he was a Muslim.
of course politically its not just smart is essential for the presidency and thats for people who arent perceived as a muslim....but in general it incenses me
Martin Luther King was a Reverend
Quote from: shorebird on October 02, 2010, 06:22:38 AM
Quote from: MDS on October 01, 2010, 01:59:38 PM
you're an idiot if you go to church
Barrak Obama
you know its barrack and hes too intelligent to believe in these fairy tales
whoopsies
Quote from: MDS on October 02, 2010, 01:25:23 PM
Quote from: shorebird on October 02, 2010, 06:22:38 AM
Quote from: MDS on October 01, 2010, 01:59:38 PM
you're an idiot if you go to church
Barrak Obama
you know its barrack and hes too intelligent to believe in these fairy tales
whoopsies
Uh, it's Barack. Whoopsie?
Quote from: SD on October 02, 2010, 09:19:15 AM
Martin Luther King was a Reverend
All the Kennedys
Albert Einstien
All the founding fathers, say what you want about their lifestyles, they were anything but idiots.
A lot of Jewish people, like 90% of the people who run Hollywood
Quite possibly the better part of Jew boys entire family tree.
The real idocy here is to generalize in such a manner that you group people together of which anyone with half a brain knows that a lot of them aren't anyones idiots.
All of the founding fathers? A not inconsiderable percentage of the founding fathers were atheist. If you are not educated about something, why talk about it at all?
"Religions are all alike – founded upon fables and mythologies." ~ Thomas Jefferson
To claim to believe in some theology, whether it be to ge elected or laid, is not idiotic; however to actually believe the theology is
Quote from: mpmcgraw on October 04, 2010, 04:27:23 PM
All of the founding fathers? A not inconsiderable percentage of the founding fathers were atheist. If you are not educated about something, why talk about it at all?
"Religions are all alike – founded upon fables and mythologies." ~ Thomas Jefferson
Not the point of my post, but anyway....
link (http://wiki.answers.com/Q/Were_any_of_the_founding_fathers_atheists)
QuoteNone of them were atheists, they were however all secualrists (meaning they believed that church and state should be seperate, to each his own.) but the personal beliefs of the founding fathers fell into three religious categories: first, the smallest group, founders who had left their Judeo-Christian heritages and become advocates of the enlightenment religion of nature and reason called "Deism" like Thomas Paine and Ethan Allen who believed in a supreme being who laid the foundations of the universe but doesn't intervene to break its' laws (meaning in the Deist' point of view it is unreasonable to believe in a personal god or believe in the existence of miracles which defy natural laws) The second largest group consisted of the founders who remained practicing Christians. They retained a supernaturalist worldview, a belief in the divinity of Jesus Christ, and an adherence to the teachings of their denomination. These founders included Patrick Henry, John Jay, and Samuel Adams. The largest group , consisted of founders who retained Christian loyalties and practice but were influenced by Deism. Like John Adams, George Washington, James Monroe and Benjamin Franklin.
BUT, that TJ quote was one I've nver heard of, so I ask you about your crack of not talking about something. If I'd never have brought it up, how would I have ever know about that quote?(even if I can't find it and you know usually when posting something like that a link would do well to back it up.)
you just linked and quoted wikianswers as proof.
do you see the absurbidity of what you just did?
shorebird, do you believe in unicorns?
I would call the founding fathers who did not go in for religion as Deists. Thomas Jefferson chief among them.
Quote from: mpmcgraw on October 04, 2010, 04:45:33 PM
you just linked and quoted wikianswers as proof.
do you see the absurbidity of what you just did?
Uh...theres plenty more of 'em out there, that was on the top. Only one I couldn't link was your TJ quote.
This seems to be a good read on the one thing you seemed to have gotten' from a post of mine that had a completely different meaning. But hey, why let the chance to throw a insult get in the way of staying on topic?
Link (http://books.google.com/books?id=BMzIavSRNdEC&dq=thomas+jefferson+religion&printsec=frontcover&source=in&hl=en&ei=4T-qTOCNC8OBlAeHkoXeDQ&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=12&ved=0CEwQ6AEwCw#v=onepage&q=thomas%20jefferson%20religion&f=false)
QuoteOver the years, Jefferson's religious ideas and character have been subject to much misunderstanding and misinterpretation.
I always thought he was Episcopalian. Seems that might not be so. One thing I always thought that none of them ever were was Atheist.
OK, so for everyone who got most/all right on the NY Times religion quiz, you can try this harder one. Spoiler alert: answers are at the bottom. Also, it was a little unfair, two questions have "all of the above" as the answer, though it isn't clear anywhere that's an option. Anyway, see if you can get into heaven (and maybe cop 72 virgins - which really isn't that many if you're thinking in terms of eternity)
QuoteTest Your Savvy on Religion
By NICHOLAS D. KRISTOF
Time for a pop quiz.
The New York Times reported recently on a Pew Research Center poll in which religious people turned out to be remarkably uninformed about religion. Almost half of Catholics didn't understand Communion. Most Protestants didn't know that Martin Luther started the Reformation. Almost half of Jews didn't realize Maimonides was Jewish. And atheists were among the best informed about religion.
So let me give everybody another chance. And given the uproar about Islam, I'll focus on extremism and fundamentalism and, as you'll see, there's a larger point to this quiz. Note that some questions have more than one correct choice; answers are at the end.
1. Which holy book stipulates that a girl who does not bleed on her wedding night should be stoned to death?
a. Koran
b. Old Testament
c. (Hindu) Upanishads
2. Which holy text declares: "Let there be no compulsion in religion"?
a. Koran
b. Gospel of Matthew
c. Letter of Paul to the Romans
3. The terrorists who pioneered the suicide vest in modern times, and the use of women in terror attacks, were affiliated with which major religion?
a. Islam
b. Christianity
c. Hinduism
4. "Every child is touched by the devil as soon as he is born and this contact makes him cry. Excepted are Mary and her Son." This verse is from:
a. Letters of Paul to the Corinthians
b. The Book of Revelation
c. An Islamic hadith, or religious tale
5. Which holy text is sympathetic to slavery?
a. Old Testament
b. New Testament
c. Koran
6. In the New Testament, Jesus' views of homosexuality are:
a. strongly condemnatory
b. forgiving
c. never mentioned
7. Which holy text urges responding to evil with kindness, saying: "repel the evil deed with one which is better."
a. Gospel of Luke
b. Book of Isaiah
c. Koran
8. Which religious figure preaches tolerance by suggesting that God looks after all peoples and leads them all to their promised lands?
a. Muhammad
b. Amos
c. Jesus
9. Which of these religious leaders was a polygamist?
a. Jacob
b. King David
c. Muhammad
10. What characterizes Muhammad's behavior toward the Jews of his time?
a. He killed them.
b. He married one.
c. He praised them as a chosen people.
11. Which holy scripture urges that the "little ones" of the enemy be dashed against the stones?
a. Book of Psalms
b. Koran
c. Leviticus
12. Which holy scripture suggests beating wives who misbehave?
a. Koran
b. Letters of Paul to the Corinthians
c. Book of Judges
13. Which religious leader is quoted as commanding women to be silent during services?
a. The first Dalai Lama
b. St. Paul
c. Muhammad
Answers:
1. b. Deuteronomy 22:21.
2. a. Koran, 2:256. But other sections of the Koran do describe coercion.
3. c. Most early suicide bombings were by Tamil Hindus (some secular) in Sri Lanka and India.
4. c. Hadith. Islam teaches that Jesus was a prophet to be revered.
5. All of the above.
6. c. Other parts of the New and Old Testaments object to homosexuality, but there's no indication of Jesus' views.
7. c. Koran, 41:34. Jesus says much the same thing in different words.
8. b. Amos 9:7
9. all of them
10. all of these. Muhammad's Jewish wife was seized in battle, which undermines the spirit of the gesture. By some accounts he had a second Jewish wife as well.
11. a. Psalm 137
12. a. Koran 4:34
13. b. St. Paul, both in 1 Corinthians 14 and 1 Timothy 2, but many scholars believe that neither section was actually written by Paul.
two right not counting the all of the above questions
The HS i attended will most likely shut down as a result of a priest diddling a 17 year old kid in the 60's for 2 years. Guy won a 30million dollar suit most from the parish, and 3 mill from the highschool specifically. The priest was a sick farg though, would drive a corvette around, and pick up the highschool boys from practices and games, and woudl put too many in the car so they had to sit on his lap.
Quote from: Seabiscuit36 on December 08, 2010, 02:30:14 PM
The HS i attended will most likely shut down as a result of a priest diddling a 17 year old kid in the 60's for 2 years. Guy won a 30million dollar suit most from the parish, and 3 mill from the highschool specifically. The priest was a sick farg though, would drive a corvette around, and pick up the highschool boys from practices and games, and woudl put too many in the car so they had to sit on his lap.
That's not very safe...seat belts save lives
Yeah not too sure how you fit a high schooler on your lap driving a vet.
Damn I wish a priest in my school tried to touch my shtein back in the day. Actually, now that I....
I saw a church van with a bumper sticker on it that said "If money is the root of all evil, Why do Churches beg for it?"
Found that to be on point....yet ironic.
I'll have to use that one at my work.
preacher got my old earth puttin money in the pan....for the rest of the week now im eatin out a soup can while he has a home and drives his caddy through town...has my old earth believin hes comin out the ground
Ill have to use that one at my work.
lol
I worked with one of these "quiver full" guys the other day.
wow
Quote from: ice grillin you on December 09, 2010, 08:52:04 AM
preacher got my old earth puttin money in the pan....for the rest of the week now im eatin out a soup can while he has a home and drives his caddy through town...has my old earth believin hes comin out the ground
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Martin_Luther
So I'm going to hell if for no other reason than not believing in God. Apparently I have to spend an eternity in indescribable pain for 70 years worth of living. That doesn't seem quite fair, but I think I'd rather take the pain than hang out with such a vindictive douchebag.
Quote from: Tomahawk on January 19, 2011, 11:11:14 PM
So I'm going to hell if for no other reason than not believing in God. Apparently I have to spend an eternity in indescribable pain for 70 years worth of living. That doesn't seem quite fair, but I think I'd rather take the pain than hang out with such a vindictive douchebag.
just think, the child molesting priests still get in.
Quote from: Tomahawk on January 19, 2011, 11:11:14 PM
So I'm going to hell if for no other reason than not believing in God.
Bible thumpers tell me all the time that I'm going to hell and I tell them I don't believe in that either. Heaven and Hell aren't places, just high and low points in your life.
Heaven = shagging a super hot chick.
Hell = pissing hot lava because you didn't wear a condom.
Pissing cold lava is no joyride either. Much chunkier.
also keep in mind with the standards this heaven place has itll be the most boring place on earth
frankly if there is a hell id prefer to go there. all the jews will be there, too. and who doesnt love jews?
mel gibson ?
Everyone?
Hitler's there too, remember. It'll continue to be awkward for a while.
If Hitler is in hell and all Jews go to hell and are presumably burning there, wouldn't that actually make it Hitler's heaven?
you never struck me a particularly smart person, but you may be on to something with that.
Quote from: Sgt PSN on January 20, 2011, 01:20:36 PMHell = pissing hot lava because you didn't wear a condom.
Quote from: rjs246 on January 20, 2011, 01:23:41 PM
Pissing cold lava is no joyride either. Much chunkier.
But pissing warm lava feels just right. Unfortunately for goldilocks, the three bears came back home from the free clinic a tad early, saw her in their bathroom, mauled her, and ate her.
Quote from: MDS on January 20, 2011, 01:26:43 PM
also keep in mind with the standards this heaven place has itll be the most boring place on earth
frankly if there is a hell id prefer to go there. all the jews will be there, too. and who doesnt love jews?
Hey a lot of Jews are huge in the entertainment business. Sounds like the sentertainment will be great. All those great old comedians I guess will ne there. Henny Youngman, Buddy Hackett, Jack Benny. And even though they arent Jews, I am sure Belushi and Kinison will be there.
QuoteFalling ice injures several outside Cowboys Stadium
Posted by Mike Florio on February 4, 2011, 4:02 PM EST
Several people were injured (or worse) during the construction of Cowboys Stadium. Two days before the venue hosts its first Super Bowl, several people were injured by ice falling from the roof.
According to the Dallas Morning News, up to seven were struck by ice sliding from the roof and falling onto the ground below. Five have been hospitalized, and one of the victims is in critical condition.
NFL spokesman Brian McCarthy has confirmed to the Dallas Morning News that injuries have occurred.
"The ice and snow melting off of the Cowboys Stadium roof has caused several sliding snow falls onto the plazas," McCarthy said via e-mail.
Darren Rovell of CNBC reports that helicopters are being used to catch some of the falling ice.
Are you trying to say that hell froze over?
No, but that's a good thought.
Maybe there is a god who has a laissez faire policy, but he'll make exceptions on occasion just to farg with jerruh and the cowboys.
LOL @ my Jeezus fearing friends on FB. About a dozen of them have posted this in the last 24 hours:
QuoteSept 11th- New York, January 11th- Haiti and March 11th- Japan. Luke 21:10-11 Then Jesus said to his disciples: "Nation will rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom. There will be great earthquakes', famines and pestilences in various places, and fearful events and great signs from heaven. 'Jesus says for behold I come quickly' so ask yourself, are you ready? Many wont repost this...I did...will you?
3 tragedies happened on the 11th day of 3 separate months. Wow, I'm really scared. I wonder what the Jeezus has to say about the Kennedy/Lincoln coincidences.
kennedy was a dirty catholic so technically jesus was happy
:-D
Quote from: Sgt PSN on March 15, 2011, 01:48:46 PM
LOL @ my Jeezus fearing friends on FB. About a dozen of them have posted this in the last 24 hours:
QuoteSept 11th- New York, January 11th- Haiti and March 11th- Japan. Luke 21:10-11 Then Jesus said to his disciples: "Nation will rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom. There will be great earthquakes', famines and pestilences in various places, and fearful events and great signs from heaven. 'Jesus says for behold I come quickly' so ask yourself, are you ready? Many wont repost this...I did...will you?
3 tragedies happened on the 11th day of 3 separate months. Wow, I'm really scared. I wonder what the Jeezus has to say about the Kennedy/Lincoln coincidences.
yeah thats running through my group of FB friends. pretty sure freddie posted it. :paranoid
this is a serious question from a non religious person stemming from a discussion a bunch of people had at the bar this afternoon
what is the difference btwn christians and jews as far as jesus goes....they both believe in him i think...but where they differ is whether he rose up in the air and went to heaven...is this accurate??
Quote from: ice grillin you on June 11, 2011, 07:03:48 PM
this is a serious question from a non religious person stemming from a discussion a bunch of people had at the bar this afternoon
what is the difference btwn christians and jews as far as jesus goes....they both believe in him i think...but where they differ is whether he rose up in the air and went to heaven...is this accurate??
Christians believe that Christ is God incarnate, come to earth to save humanity from its sin.
Most modern Jews believe either that Christ was a teacher and a "good man," but not God, or don't believe he existed at all, or don't give a rip either way.
Ancient Jewish leaders (the Pharisees according to the bible) believe him to be a political nuisance and a threat to their power - hence the execution.
And well get rid of the next one, too
thanks geo...i guess i was way off because i was sayin that jews were all in on jesus...except for the fact that he rose
but in reality jews hate jesus?
Simple explanation: Jesus proclaimed himself as the son of god and king of the jews. The jews that believed him formed christianity. The ones that didn't had him crucified.
Quote from: ice grillin you on June 11, 2011, 08:06:25 PM
but in reality jews hate jesus?
No. They just don't recognize him as anything more than a man.
Quote from: Sgt PSN on June 11, 2011, 08:15:42 PM
Simple explanation: Jesus proclaimed himself as the son of god and king of the jews. The jews that believed him formed christianity. The ones that didn't had him crucified.
Good simple explanation. The Jews that believed him also got some of the Gentiles (read: non-Jews) to believe.
so was jesus a jew?
Yes.
Quote from: Sgt PSN on June 11, 2011, 08:15:42 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on June 11, 2011, 08:06:25 PM
but in reality jews hate jesus?
No. They just don't recognize him as anything more than a man.
That wasn't really a strongly worded answer.
At the time, I'm sure there was much resentment and hatred towards him, otherwise they wouldn't have murderdeathkilled him. At the same time, I don't really think Jews are carrying a lot of hatred towards him today. He's not in their teachings and I don't think they sit around the dinner table saying things like "Hey....remember that time we killed Jesus?" Todd could answer this better, but I don't even think there's really any mention of him is there? Jews pretty much stop with the old testament and Jesus wasn't introduced until the new testament, right?
Fun fact: Jesus' crucifixion was the site of the world's first t shirt stand.
my girls christian friends swear he wasnt a jew...but thats like common knowledge right?
Quote from: ice grillin you on June 11, 2011, 08:25:59 PM
so was jesus a jew?
Yes, he was addressed as rabbi or rabonni, a term for one who is a distinguished theologian and religious leader.
QuoteAt the time, I'm sure there was much resentment and hatred towards him, otherwise they wouldn't have murderdeathkilled him.
I think it would be more correct to say he was loved by the Jews a charismatic teacher. It was because of this Rome saw him as a threat for insurrection and the Jewish religious orthodoxy saw him as a threat to their political control and hypocrisy, and arranged to have him tried and killed.
Today I don't think there is much hate toward Jesus by Jews, but I don't know if the same can be said necessarily about Christians, particularly evangelicals who see it as their duty to convert Jews (and everyone else for that matter) 'for their own good.' It's an interesting dynamic though because there are many of the Christian right who are a driving force behind the financial and military support of Israel as a free state.
Quote from: ice grillin you on June 11, 2011, 10:28:01 PM
my girls christian friends swear he wasnt a jew...but thats like common knowledge right?
He was a direct descendant from the "House of David," who was the king of the Jews. Don't get much more Jewish than that.
King David btw, was the father of Solomon.
Quote from: Eagaholic on June 11, 2011, 10:38:15 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on June 11, 2011, 10:28:01 PM
my girls christian friends swear he wasnt a jew...but thats like common knowledge right?
He was a direct decendant from the "House of David," who was the king of the Jews. Don't get much more Jewish than that.
right thats what i thought....chalk one up for the heathen
didnt jews get really upset about mel gibsons movie...if they truly hated jesus they woudnt have cared about being portrayed as killing him right?
Quote from: ice grillin you on June 11, 2011, 10:41:04 PM
Quote from: Eagaholic on June 11, 2011, 10:38:15 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on June 11, 2011, 10:28:01 PM
my girls christian friends swear he wasnt a jew...but thats like common knowledge right?
He was a direct decendant from the "House of David," who was the king of the Jews. Don't get much more Jewish than that.
right thats what i thought....chalk one up for the heathen
didnt jews get really upset about mel gibsons movie...if they truly hated jesus they woudnt have cared about being portrayed as killing him right?
Interesting thought, I don't know. If history went down such that the Jews got to Hitler and brutally killed him, I doubt they would have much objection to its graphic depiction (like a lot of Americans would love to see the pics of Bin Laden). Of course that's on it's own unique level. On the other hand, Hitler is almost universally reviled where as Jesus gets a lot of love, even from Muslims, Buddhists etc.
jews get sensative about 2 issues:
1. the killing jesus thing
2. israel
everything else we make fun of ourselves more for than anyone else could even try to.
also when the next pretend son of god comes along hes getting the same result: a big fat DEAD. you cant try to take over our money and power so dont even bother. thats all ill say. it goes too deep, diehard knows what i mean.
so someone explain "jews for jesus"
explain scientology. explain christianity. explain islam. explain any religion.
there are idiots out there and people desparate for some kind of meaning or point to their life. for some people jews for jesus works.
if you want to specifically know what the cult is then farging google it you lazy twat.
no seriously what is it
Saw one of those RVs from the end of the world freaks yesterday.
Still had all of this "He's coming for you" crap all over it, but they had whitewashed over all of the 5/21/11 end of the world shtein.
theres like 10 of them in downtown DC at any time
got massive pictures of dead fetuses all on the outside of the vehicle
its pretty cool
Yeah, I've seen one of those dead fetus versions before. Something is seriously loose in these people.
It's like a defense mechanism for overcoming the fact that they themselves should have been aborted...and saved us all from their nonsense.
Instead of whitewashing 5/21/11 they should just have had a changeable number plate. Didn't that guy say he made another miscalculation and would have a new date coming out later? He raised several million to spread the word about the last prediction.
several million a couple suicides and one murder
Quote from: ice grillin you on June 11, 2011, 10:57:17 PM
so someone explain "jews for jesus"
Messianic Jews - or, more simply, Jews that accept the divinity of Christ. Ethnic Jews who continue to practice Jewish customs while embracing the Christian religion.
Quote from: Eagaholic on June 11, 2011, 11:10:21 PM
Instead of whitewashing 5/21/11 they should just have had a changeable number plate. Didn't that guy say he made another miscalculation and would have a new date coming out later? He raised several million to spread the word about the last prediction.
Digital board would make it easy.
That would be convenient, we'd always know how many shopping days til the end of the world.
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sweet
At a bar the other night, some girl told me the bible says don't eat red meat. After calling bullshtein, she either pulled a passage from the bible she has downloaded on her phone or googled the shtein on yahoo, but whatever the source, that's a pretty farging loose interpretation of something like "don't spill blood on the altar".
I still didn't quit talking to her until she said she's been celibate for 8 months
There's bible apps for iphone, and I assume other smartphones as well.
Quote from: Tomahawk on August 12, 2011, 11:03:03 AM
At a bar the other night, some girl told me the bible says don't eat red meat. After calling bullshtein, she either pulled a passage from the bible she has downloaded on her phone or googled the shtein on yahoo, but whatever the source, that's a pretty farging loose interpretation of something like "don't spill blood on the altar".
I still didn't quit talking to her until she said she's been celibate for 8 months
The Essenes (Dead Sea Scrolls) were vegans. Many believed Jesus was an Essene because they both hold the same beliefs. There are some ancient texts that point to Jesus possibly being an Essene.
Quote from: SD on August 12, 2011, 09:05:49 PM
Quote from: Tomahawk on August 12, 2011, 11:03:03 AM
At a bar the other night, some girl told me the bible says don't eat red meat. After calling bullshtein, she either pulled a passage from the bible she has downloaded on her phone or googled the shtein on yahoo, but whatever the source, that's a pretty farging loose interpretation of something like "don't spill blood on the altar".
I still didn't quit talking to her until she said she's been celibate for 8 months
The Essenes (Dead Sea Scrolls) were vegans. Many believed Jesus was an Essene because they both hold the same beliefs. There are some ancient texts that point to Jesus possibly being an Essene.
I'm beginning to think there might be something to this being vegan, as I remember the story of God raining down manna from heaven to feed the people. He could of just as easily rained down cheese steaks upon them, which would have been awesome, but He didn't and there must be a reason for this.
Btw Tomahawk, maybe that chick was an Adventist, they are Christians whose preferred diet is vegetarian.
What you need to find is the sect of Christians whose preferred diet is modest middle american cock.
So, fundamentalists who run gay deprogramming camps?
Quote from: Diomedes on August 12, 2011, 11:32:46 PM
What you need to find is the sect of Christians whose preferred diet is modest middle american cock.
http://www.gaychristian.net/
Bam
QuoteWONDER WHAT WOULD HAPPEN IF WE TREATED OUR BIBLE LIKE OUR CELL PHONE? WE CARRY IT EVERYWHERE WE GO, WE FLIP THROUGH IT THROUGH OUT THE DAY. WE WENT HOME TO GET IT IF WE FORGOT IT. WE RECIEVE MESSAGES FROM THE TEXT WE COULD'NT LIVE WITHOUT. WE GIVE IT TO OUR KIDS AS GIFTS. WE USE IN CASE OF EMERGENCY. ONE MORE THING, IT WOULD NEVER BE DISCONNECTED. JESUS HAS ALREADY PAID THE BILL. PASS THIS ON
When the bible lets me play angry birds, check sports scores and take pictures of my g/f's snatch, then maybe I'll start carrying one around with me.
If the bible was anything like my cell phone, I would have burned it a long time ago.
I've been reading the bible a bit lately because I'm reading something that refers to it often. I had forgotten how awful it is.
My Bible also is stuck in all caps mode. Anyone know how to fix that?
I will resist the overwhelming urge to post a Bible pun here.
Jew wouldn't dare.
yeah, really. this place has been flooded with puns lately.
Quote from: Rome on August 23, 2011, 08:19:17 PM
I will resist the overwhelming urge to post a Bible pun here.
That is a testament to your good character.
My cellphone has a bible app. So that guy's statement doesn't apply to me.
Mine doesn't have a Bible app, but it is running a dual-Koran processor.
I only have a psalm pilot.
Ezekiel what you did right there.
Can you get one of those on Virgin Mobile?
Quote from: General_Failure on August 23, 2011, 09:32:53 PM
Can you get one of those on Virgin Mobile?
Only with divine intervention.
so is the bible app good for cross referencing?
I think bible apps are funny because I'm fairly certain Jesus doesn't approve of cell phones.
Sinners.
Quote from: Eagaholic on August 23, 2011, 09:54:48 PM
so is the bible app good for cross referencing?
:-D :-D :-D
Ex-Bishop makes a lot of sense in regards to religion.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=SF6I5VSZVqc
Quote from: SD on August 27, 2011, 10:56:50 AM
Ex-Bishop makes a lot of sense in regards to religion.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=SF6I5VSZVqc
how hilarious is it when the interviewer quizzically asks:
paraphrasing - "WAIT A MINUTE you crazy ex bishop!!....you mean hell this fiery place somewhere below the earth where people burn in damnation for eternity was actually made up?" - paraphrasing
lolol
lol
This guy is great. Here's 27 minutes on his philosophy of Christianity. He breaks down why the virgin birth of Jesus is most likely untrue and how the texts were misinterpreted. He wrote a book called 'Christianity for the non-religous'
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6AfFcAmx-Ro&feature=related
is his explanantion that a virgin birth isnt medically possible
no, he explains how the translation of the texts were misinterpreted by Matthew. The last few minutes he goes into peoples understanding of God and how ridiculous it is to say you're going to be punished because I understand the bible this way and if you don't then you're wrong...and how could you possibly understand God if you're not God. He also goes into how the country pulled back from religion during Clinton/Gore years and how prosperous we all were during that time because we didn't have to deal with religion tied into politics. His explanation of why people are so anti-religion is also spot on. It's like this guy is reading my mind.
you just feed into the religious people when you try to debunk their retarded history with more history...no one has any clue what happened back then...if jesus even existed at all for example....
but when you try to outreason them in that way its a back door way of saying that a vigin birth could exist but that it just didnt happen in this case....to me thats being as nuts as the zelouts...instead of saying this is why the vigin birth didnt happen you should say its physically and medically impossible for a virgin birth to happen nd if you think it did you are a friggin lunatic
people have been called crazy for far less
Even if you don't believe Jesus is the son of God and all the other stuff the historical Jesus is pretty well documented. Saying "I don't believe Jesus existed" is pretty much the same as saying "I don't think Alexander the Great existed" by your reasoning.
Quote from: SD on August 27, 2011, 11:41:44 AM
Even if you don't believe Jesus is the son of God and all the other stuff the historical Jesus is pretty well documented. Saying "I don't believe Jesus existed" is pretty much the same as saying "I don't think Alexander the Great existed" by your reasoning.
well im sure there was a person named jesus...in fact im sure there were dozens....after that i dont believe anything those people say...its hard to reason with people who believe in virgin births....thats why its wrong of that guy to do it....when you dont believe in things like science you are pretty much impossible to even talk to much less reason with
Quote from: ice grillin you on August 27, 2011, 11:45:35 AM
well im sure there was a person named jesus...in fact im sure there were dozens....after that i dont believe anything those people say...its hard to reason with people who believe in virgin births....thats why its wrong of that guy to do it....when you dont believe in things like science you are pretty much impossible to even talk to much less reason with
IGY for the mother farging win!
His name was Joshua, actually, but nevermind.
The Earth is 6,000 years old. No, really.
Quote from: ice grillin you on August 27, 2011, 11:45:35 AM
Quote from: SD on August 27, 2011, 11:41:44 AM
Even if you don't believe Jesus is the son of God and all the other stuff the historical Jesus is pretty well documented. Saying "I don't believe Jesus existed" is pretty much the same as saying "I don't think Alexander the Great existed" by your reasoning.
well im sure there was a person named jesus...in fact im sure there were dozens....after that i dont believe anything those people say...its hard to reason with people who believe in virgin births....thats why its wrong of that guy to do it....when you dont believe in things like science you are pretty much impossible to even talk to much less reason with
Jesus was an extremely common name 2000 years ago so that is absolutely correct.
Here's a bit about the historical Jesus:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Historical_Jesus
I work with a guy who thinks the Earth is only 6000 years old. What's funny is if you talked to him for 10 minutes there's no way you'd think he believed all of that nonsense.
Quote from: SD on August 27, 2011, 12:48:08 PM
I work with a guy who thinks the Earth is only 6000 years old. What's funny is if you talked to him for 10 minutes there's no way you'd think he believed all of that nonsense.
if it wasnt for the news and the internet i wouldnt even know these people exist...i know a few fairly religious people but i have never met a crazy in my life when it comes to religion
He's a Puerto Rican guy who likes rock music, used to drink and be a womanizer, but one day found religion and changed his life. He has a bunch of tattoo's and crap. We always farg with him but he takes it in stride. Deep down I think he knows it's a bunch of bullshtein but puts up a front because he's brainwashed into thinking he needs to believe certain things. We always farg with him about dinosaurs and stuff.
jesus hes already puerto rican.
you dont need to pile it on.
QuoteThis will give you the chills.........
GOOD chills.
A young man had been to Wednesday Night Bible Study.
T he Pastor had shared about listening to God and obeying the Lord's voice
The young man couldn't help but wonder, 'Does God still speak to people?'
After service, he went out with some friends for coffee and pie and they discussed the message. Several different ones talked about how God had led themin different ways.
It was about ten o'clock when the young man started driving home. Sitting in his car, he just began to pray, 'God...If you still speak to people, speak to me. I will listen. I will do my best to obey.'
As he drove down the main street of his town, he had the strangest thought to stop and buy a gallon of milk.
He shook his head and said out loud, 'God is that you?' He didn't get a reply and started on toward home.
But again, the thought, buy a gallon of milk.
The young man thought about Samuel and how he didn't recognize the voice of God, and how little Samuel ran to Eli.
'Okay, God, in case that is you, I will buy the milk.' It didn't seem like too hard a test of obedience. He could always use the milk. He stopped and purchased the gallon of milk and started off toward home.
As he passed Seventh Street , he again felt the urge, 'Turn Down that street.'
This is crazy he thought, and drove on past the intersection.
Again, he felt that he should turn down Seventh Street ...
At the next intersection, he turned back and headed down Seventh.
Half jokingly, he said out loud,
'Okay, God, I will.'
He drove several blocks, when suddenly, he felt like he should stop He pulled over to the curb and looked around. He was in a semi- commercial area of town.. It wasn't the best but it wasn't the worst of neighborhoods either. The businesses were closed and most of the houses looked dark like the people were already in bed.
Again, he sensed something, 'Go and give the milk to the people in the house across the street.' The young man looked at the house. It was dark and it looked like the people were either gone or they were already asleep. He started to open the door and then sat back in the car seat.
'Lord, this is insane. Those people are asleep and if I wake them up, they are going to be mad and I will look stupid.' Again, he felt like he should go and give the milk.
Finally, he opened the door, 'Okay God, if this is you, I will go to the door and I will give them the milk If you want me to look like a crazy person, okay. I want to be obedient. I guess that will count for some thing, but if they don't answer right away, I am out of here.'
He walked across the street and rang the bell. He could hear some noise inside. A man's voice yelled out, 'Who is it? What do you want?' Then the door opened before the young man could get away.
The man was standing there in his jeans and T-shirt.... He looked like he just got out of bed. He had a strange look on his face and he didn't seem too happy to have some stranger standing on his doorstep. 'What is it?'
The young man thrust out the gallon of milk, 'Here, I brought this to you.' The man took the milk and rushed down a hallway..
Then from down the hall came a woman carrying the milk toward the kitchen. The man was following her holding a baby. The baby was crying.. The man had tears streaming down his face.
The man began speaking and half crying, 'We were just praying .. We had
some big bills this month and we ran out of money.. We didn't have any milk for our baby. I was just praying and asking God to show me how to get some milk.'
His wife in the kitchen yelled out, 'I ask him to send an Angel with some.. Are you an Angel?'
The young man reached into his wallet and pulled out all the money he had on him and put in the man's hand. He turned and walked back toward his car and the tears were streaming down his face.
He knew that God still answers prayers.
THIS IS A SIMPLE TEST....... If you believe that God is alive and well, send this to at least ten people and the person that sent it to you!!!!
This is so true. Sometimes it's the simplest things that God asks us to do that cause us, if we are obedient to what He's asking, to be able to hear His voice more clear than ever. Please listen, and obey! It will bless you (and the world)... Phil 4:13
This is an easy test - you score 100 or zero. It's your choice.
If you aren't ashamed to do this, please follow the directions... Jesus said, 'If you are ashamed of me, I will be ashamed of you before my Father.'
Not ashamed...Pass this on.
Is posting this here your way of passing it on? Because 10 people don't read this site, so the joke's on you sucka.
Got milk?
No. I'm waiting for a sucker to bring a gallon to my doorstep.
cute story
i love how its all inauspicious
the man. main street. seventh street. the house.
nothing concrete. cant prove it happened but cant prove it didnt.
like religion
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SD, you're cool and all, but you should die of sniper fire to your neck for posting that.
I hate that shtein...but its fun when you edit it, make the story interesting and forward it to everyone to the person's mailing list they sent it to. Makes for some good responses. It's even more fun with missing children. >:D
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That little schtick has been going around in email for years. I'm guessing someone turned it into a little picture so they could put it on their facebook.
SD wants God in school so the kids will learn that dinosaur bones were planted by Him to test our faith, evolution and climate change are global liberal elitist conspiracies, and God Bless America.
I'm for freedom of religion. I think God should be taken out of everything including school, the courts, the Government etc.
Freedom of religion is kind of a consolation prize for me. I'd just as soon see everyone be free from religion. But that ain't happening anytime soon so the best I can hope for is that all of these zealots develope a tolerance for each other and understand that they need to keep their preaching confined to the inner 4 walls of their church.
Of course, that ain't happening either so I guess I'm farged.
The religion in our government which ought to be of real concern is not a morning prayer in school. It's the money flow from church to government, it's people, the people who leave government in order to lobby on behalf of relgion, etc.
Why have there been no serious criminal investigations of priests who have allowed rapists to play with their parishioners' children? We seem to have a hard on for nailing the mormon child rapists, why not the catholics?
If mega churches want to influence politics, how about they pay taxes?
I agree with that completely. I don't care if schools offer a "moment of silence" so to speak, so kids can say a prayer if they want to and the ones who don't pray can daydream about the hot chick/dude sitting next to them. I just don't want them calling it "prayer time" though.
I also don't want politicians referring to their bible when it comes to passing, preventing or proposing laws in this country. I want them referring to the Constitution and Bill of Rights. It's laughable that politicians still try and point to their religion as a source for their morals.....as if they actually have morals.
I don't give a farg if politicians point to religion as a basis for their 'morality', just keep it out of the government.
how about keep it out of life period
why cant people just base their morality on the mantra "because its just the right thing to do"
when you start basing it on religion you start hearing things like the bible says gays are amoral are going to hell...all it is a cult...and cults are no place to base your morality
Not arguing with that but people I don't give a farg how they come to their ideas of morality so long as they aren't pushing it on me and it stays out of the govt. People can say the flying spaghetti monster gives them their moral compass so long as they act within the law. Doesnt matter at all to me. It isn't my place to tell them they can't believe just like it isn't their place to tell me I have to. When they start doing that its crossed just believing what they want to believe.
I like the Flying Spaghetti Monster because he's always sauced.
Quotehttp://Twas the Month before Christmas
Twas the month before Christmas
When all through our land,
Not a Christian was praying
Nor taking a stand.
See the PC Police had taken away
The reason for Christmas - no one could say.
The children were told by their schools not to sing
About Shepherds and Wise Men and Angels and things.
It might hurt people's feelings, the teachers would say
December 25th is just a ' Holiday'.
Yet the shoppers were ready with cash, checks and credit
Pushing folks down to the floor just to get it!
CDs from Madonna, an X BOX, an I-Pod
Something was changing, something quite odd!
Retailers promoted Ramadan and Kwanzaa
In hopes to sell books by Franken & Fonda.
As Targets were hanging their trees upside down
At Lowe's the word Christmas - was no where to be found.
At K-Mart and Staples and Penny's and Sears
You won't hear the word Christmas; it won't touch your ears.
Inclusive, sensitive, Di-ver-si-ty
Are words that were used to intimidate me.
Now Daschle, Now Darden, Now Sharpton, Wolf Blitzen
On Boxer, on Rather, on Kerry, on Clinton!
At the top of the Senate, there arose such a clatter
To eliminate Jesus, in all public matter.
And we spoke not a word, as they took away our faith
Forbidden to speak of salvation and grace
The true Gift of Christmas was exchanged and discarded
The reason for the season, stopped before it started.
So as you celebrate 'Winter Break' under your 'Dream Tree'
Sipping your Starbucks, listen to me.
Choose your words carefully, choose what you say
Shout MERRY CHRISTMAS,
not Happy Holiday!
Please, all Christians join together and
wish everyone you meet
MERRY CHRISTMAS
Christ is The Reason' for the Christ-mas Season!
If you agree please forward, if not, simply delete.
I feel more stupid than normal after reading that, and that ain't a easy thing to do.
How old is that, SD? Who still buys CDs? Of Madonna no less
http://blog.chron.com/believeitornot/2011/12/lowe%E2%80%99s-others-pull-ads-from-tlc%E2%80%99s-%E2%80%98all-american-muslim%E2%80%99/
Sickening.
if you feel that strongly about it, tell 'em as much
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thanks Dio, just did.
PG is a BIG fan of Tebow's pastor.
Just to make sure we've beaten this into the ground, here's a really excellent take on Tebow/faith (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news?slug=dw-wetzel_tim_tebow_pastor_faith_121211).
i love the irony of the muslim show being on the learning channel....as if MA has or ever would open up and be progressive
It hasn't been The Learning Channel in a long time, just TLC. Like most niche networks, they've given up pretending they're about something unique and just fill hours with cheap reality television.
shows how much i know about tv
This might be the only time you'll ever be told this, but you're a better person for it.
TLC is 99% shows about children anymore
I don't know why you all are so down on religion. And the problem certainly isn't with what the original founders taught.
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Quote(Reuters) - Enraged Chinese shoppers pelted Apple Inc's flagship Beijing store with eggs and shoving matches with police broke out when customers were told the store would not begin sales of the popular iPhone 4S as scheduled.
Apple said later Friday after the botched launch at its store in Beijing's trendy Sanlitun district that it would halt all retail sales of the latest iPhone in China for the time being, but said the phones would be available online, through its partner China Unicom or at official Apple resellers.
Scuffles broke out before daybreak between security staff and shoppers, many of whom had waited in line overnight in sub-freezing weather, after an announcer with a bullhorn told the restless crowd around 7 a.m. that the phones would not go on sale as planned and that they should go home.
Police dragged some people away and photos appeared on the Chinese blogosphere of a man who had brought raw eggs in a plastic bag handing them out before people heaved them at the store's tall glass windows.
"We're suffering from cold and hunger," a man in his 20s shouted to Reuters Television. "They said they're not going to sell to us. Why? Why?"
(for some reason I imagine the man saying that last line in English with a thick Chinese accent)
QuoteHave you ever been just sitting there and all of a sudden you feel like doing something nice for someone you care for? THAT'S GOD talking to you through the Holy Spirit.
Have you ever been down and out and nobody seems to be around for you to talk to?
THAT'S GOD wanting you to talk to Him.
Have you ever been thinking about somebody that you haven't seen in a long time and then next thing you know you see them or receive a phone call from them? THAT'S GOD.
There is no such thing as coincidence.
Have you ever received something wonderful that you didn't even ask for, like money in the mail, a debt that had mysteriously been cleared, or a coupon to a department store where you had just seen something you needed, but couldn't afford? THAT'S GOD knowing the desires of your heart.
Have you ever been in a situation and you had no clue how it was going to get better, how the hurting would stop, how the pain would ease, but now you look back on it . THAT'S GOD passing us through tribulation to see a brighter day.
Do you think that this e-mail was accidentally sent to you?
NO! I was thinking of you! !
Please pass this along and share the Power of God.
In all that we do, we should totally give thanks and our blessings will continue to multiply. Keep this going. You have no idea which one of your e-mail buddies could use a little hope today
I GOD telling me to punch this baby right now? Because I'm really enjoying it.
I've got like 800 songs on my iGod so far
Quote from: SD on February 02, 2012, 06:03:08 PMTHAT'S GOD knowing the desires of your heart.
I feel obligated to thank god for satisfying the carnal desires of my heart. I didn't realize the almighty was such a dirty mofo
Wasn't aware he changed his stance on gays. Carry on.
QuoteSometimes you are delayed where you are because GOD knows there's a storm where you're headed. Be Grateful!
QuoteAnother beautiful sunset in winter God is good all the time.
Opened up FB and this was the first post on my news feed.
Quote
Me: God, can I ask You a question?
God: Sure ...
Me: Promise You won't get mad ... ...
God: I promise
Me: Why did You let so much stuff happen to me today?
God: What do u mean?
Me: Well, I woke up late
God: Yes
Me: My car took forever to start
God: Okay
Me: at lunch they made my sandwich wrong & I had to wait
God: Huummm
Me: On the way home, my phone went DEAD, just as I picked up a call
God: All right
Me: And on top of it all off, when I got home ~I just want to soak my feet in my new foot massager & relax. BUT it wouldn't work! Nothing went right today! Why did You do that?
God: Let me see, the death angel was at your bed this morning & I had to send one of My Angels to battle him for your life. I let you sleep through that
Me (humbled): OH
GOD: I didn't let your car start because there was a drunk driver on your route that would have hit you if you were on the road.
Me: (ashamed)
God: The first person who made your sandwich today was sick & I didn't want you to catch what they have, I knew you couldn't afford to miss work.
Me (embarrassed):Okay
God: Your phone went dead bcuz the person that was calling was going to give false witness about what you said on that call, I didn't even let you talk to them so you would be covered.
Me (softly): I see God
God: Oh and that foot massager, it had a shortage that was going to throw out all of the power in your house tonight. I didn't think you wanted to be in the dark.
Me: I'm Sorry God
God: Don't be sorry, just learn to Trust Me.... in All things , the Good & the bad.
Me: I will trust You.
God: And don't doubt that My plan for your day is Always Better than your plan.
Me: I won't God. And let me just tell you God, Thank You for Everything today.
God: You're welcome child. It was just another day being your God and I Love looking after My Children
farging puke.
Holy shtein and I thought the quotes I posted from fb were farging retarded. I am humbled
Maybe God can explain Geo's lousy day to him. I'm looking forward to the transcript on that one.
Quote from: Diomedes on February 02, 2012, 09:06:00 PM
Maybe God can explain Geo's lousy day to him. I'm looking forward to the transcript on that one.
Lol gold as usual from dio
Quote from: Tomahawk on February 02, 2012, 08:51:33 PM
Holy shtein and I thought the quotes I posted from fb were farging retarded. I am humbled
Don't know about you, but I find that most of the people I know on FB who post lots of religious crap like this on there aren't really all that religious. Meanwhile, the few friends I have who I would consider devout christians (actually go to church, say grace, shtein like that) don't do their preaching on the interwebs.
Smells Like Teen (Holy) Spirit (http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/sideshow/pope-benedict-orders-own-personal-fragrance-184228715.html)
QuoteAdam Schefter
On Easter Sunday, about 30,000 people are expected to attend the Celebration Church in Austin, Tx., and hear Jets QB Tim Tebow preach
its passover
remember it was there before zombie jesus
Right. And it got passed over for chocolate egg laying bunnies.
maybe that jew shouldnt have died
nm
I always get cautiously excited when I see that there's a new post here and that someone's actually going to post a thought or a perspective on religion and we are all going to go into deep discussion and further expand our personal views on life...but then I read 'zombie jesus'...and that fantasy blows up like an atom bomb.
I love CF. :nyuk
Quote from: MDS on April 06, 2012, 11:58:26 PM
maybe that jew shouldnt have died
He didn't die on purpose asswipe, your people crucified his ass.
Quote from: shorebird on April 20, 2012, 07:34:07 AM
Quote from: MDS on April 06, 2012, 11:58:26 PM
maybe that jew shouldnt have died
He didn't die on purpose asswipe, your people crucified his ass.
If he even existed.
mel gibson told me he did
Did he call you a funhole?
Quote from: shorebird on April 20, 2012, 07:34:07 AM
Quote from: MDS on April 06, 2012, 11:58:26 PM
maybe that jew shouldnt have died
He didn't die on purpose asswipe, your people crucified his ass.
he deserved what he had coming and if we could do it all over again, nothing would change
ps i think hes actually serious
As serious as the heart attack you're hoping that I have.
Today's conservatives would do the same thing to him again. Preaching love for all and rich people can't get into heaven...that's a waterboarding for you.
I don't understand, the Jews back then were todays conservatives? Ha! Oh well, all I want is fish on friday.
(http://i.imgur.com/DtsIO.jpg)
And if he were around today he'd be doing what?.... Running a 7-Eleven?
According to Foxnews Jesus has already been resurrected as Ronald Reagan
if he were around today it would signal the beginning of the zombie apocalypse, which would be awesome
(jesus was a zombie. he died. then he came back to life. zombie. shotgun to the head.)
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/47248389/ns/technology_and_science-science/t/atheists-more-motivated-compassion-faithful/#.T6cFPtSKLFh
Okay mister free thinker. How could you possibly give more credence to the scientists who report these findings than to those who report man made climate change?
It makes no sense.
its americanism/white person syndrome
"Everything I think is right."
Quote from: MDS on May 06, 2012, 09:28:40 PM
its americanism/white person syndrome
"Everything I think is right."
On CF we call this phenomenon mdsism
i am a cultural jew who is at heart a half black/half mexican
on what planet am i not oppressed
Planet Hollywood.
:-D :-D :-D
Quote
I HOPE I GET AT LEAST THREE BACK
When we get 100,000,000, that's one hundred million willing Christians to BOND together, voice their concerns and vote, we can take back America with God's help, Become one of the One hundred million, then lets get 200 million. It can be done by sending this email to your friends. Do the math. It only takes a willing heart and a
fed up soul. God Bless America and Shine your light on Her..
In
1952
President Truman
established one day a year as
a
"National Day of
Prayer."
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In
1988
President
Reagan
designated the
First
Thursday in May of each year as
the
National Day of Prayer.
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In
June
2007
(then)
Presidential
Candidate
Barack Obama
declared
that the USA
"Was no longer a
Christian
nation."
---------------------------------------------------------------
In 2009
President Obama
canceled
the
21st
annual National Day
of Prayer
ceremony
at
the White
House under the ruse
Of
"not wanting to offend anyone"
------------------------------------------------------------------------
BUT...
on September 25, 2009
from
4 AM until 7 PM,
a
National Day of Prayer
FOR THE MUSLIM
RELIGION
was Held on Capitol
Hill,
Beside the White House.
There
were over 50,000 Muslims
in D.C. that day.
HE
PRAYS WITH THE MUSLIMS!
I
guess it Doesn't matter
if "Christians"
Are offended by this event -
We obviously don't count as
"anyone" anymore.
The
direction this country is headed
should
strike fear in the heart of every
Christian,
especially knowing that
the
Muslim
religion believes that if Christians cannot
be
converted, they should be
annihilated.
This is not a Rumor -
Go to the website
To confirm this info:
http://www.islamoncapitolhill.com <http://www.islamoncapitolhill..com/>
Send
this to ten people
and the
person who
sent
it to you!...
to let them know that
indeed,
it was sent
out
to many
more
Please stop.
can anyone give me one good reason why the farging world shouldn't be nuked?
Quote
Religion has run out of justifications. Thanks to the telescope and the microscope, it no longer offers an explanation of anything important. Where once it used to be able, by its total command of a worldview, to prevent the emergence of rivals, it can now only impede and retard—or try to turn back—the measurable advances that we have made.
Sometimes, true, it will artfully concede them. But this is to offer itself the choice between irrelevance and obstruction, impotence or outright reaction, and, given this choice, it is programmed to select the worse of the two.
Meanwhile, confronted with undreamed-of vistas inside our own evolving cortex, in the farthest reaches of the known universe, and in proteins and acids which constitute our nature, religion offers either annihilation in the name of god, or else the false promise that if we take a knife to our foreskins, or pray in the right direction, or ingest pieces of wafer, we shall be "saved."
I recently got that Obama cancelled Nat'l Prayer Day email too. I've decided that instead of ignoring them, I'm going to reply to all and give everyone the truth instead. Why go through the hassle? Hopefully at least one of my nimrod relatives or friends who reads and believes some of this crap will actually learn something and be a little bit smarter because of it.
http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/prayerday.asp
Quote from: SunMo on May 23, 2012, 08:44:44 AM
can anyone give me one good reason why the farging world shouldn't be nuked?
Tits.
are christians stupider than the people of other religions?
Quote from: MDS on May 23, 2012, 01:06:53 PM
are christians stupider than the people of other religions?
Exhibit A (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/05/21/north-carolina-pastor-gay-rant-starvation_n_1533463.html?ref=fb&src=sp&comm_ref=false)
Quote from: MDS on May 23, 2012, 01:06:53 PM
are christians stupider than the people of other religions?
no....they are just more full of themselves
Just a little more proof that people like to pick and choose from the bible what things they will and will not "obey."
(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-AB1eEFWPg8s/T7_pMH3G5OI/AAAAAAAAE24/RojM2QDomFI/s700/dumb+tat.jpg)
Leviticus 18:22 is the scripture du jour that seems to be really popular these days. Between the POTUS repealing DADT and now coming out and saying he supports gay marriage, I really don't know how many times I've seen/heard people refer to this scripture to try and support their claim that being gay is a sin. And considering that I couldn't quote a single bible scripture, I had to look up what Leviticus 19:28 is. Pretty funny.
QuoteYe shall not make any cuttings in your flesh for the dead, nor print any marks upon you: I am the Lord
lol at the end being I am the Lord
is that his sign off? like secreast out!
was i supposed to forget who he was in this story? thanks for the reminder you farging egomaniac.
:-D
http://news.yahoo.com/serpent-handling-west-virginia-pastor-dies-snake-bite-173406645--abc-news-topstories.html
good riddance to bad rubbish
http://www.philly.com/philly/news/religion/20120727_Evangelicals_plan__America_for_Jesus__rally_in_Philadelphia.html
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/07/15/jesus-quotes_n_898695.html#s308815&title=Luke_62021
http://i.imgur.com/YVOwZ.png
:-D
I don't get it. How can that letter be from god if god admits that he doesn't exist?
You gave up on the cop dream too soon.
if hes still alive....i believe he will be 92....the pope is coming to philly in 2015
So I loosely follow religion, I don't think Jesus's teachings are the problem, but the people who hide behind the bible to promote their own beliefs. To me Jesus's teachings in their purest form are good lessons to live by, but the idiots who follow his teachings have distorted them to a disgraceful level. I believe Jesus spent time in India where he learned or maybe taught Buddhism [some say he was called St. Issa due to some scripts which have never been recovered, maybe he was maybe he wasn't] Something I'll never understand is how Republicans align themselves with religion and the wealthy when it's apparent Jesus was for the poor and the sick. I read the NT and I come away with the impression that Jesus was a liberal.
Anyway, here are 10 quotes from Jesus which support my beliefs:
QuoteLuke 6:20-21 Then he looked up at his disciples and said: 'Blessed are you who are poor, for yours is the kingdom of God.
'Blessed are you who are hungry now, for you will be filled. 'Blessed are you who weep now, for you will laugh.
Luke 4:16-19 When he came to Nazareth, where he had been brought up, he went to the synagogue on the sabbath day, as was his custom. He stood up to read, and the scroll of the prophet Isaiah was given to him. He unrolled the scroll and found the place where it was written:
'The Spirit of the Lord is upon me, because he has anointed me to bring good news to the poor. He has sent me to proclaim release to the captives and recovery of sight to the blind, to let the oppressed go free, to proclaim the year of the Lord's favour.'
Matthew 25:34-36 Then the king will say to those at his right hand, "Come, you that are blessed by my Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world; for I was hungry and you gave me food, I was thirsty and you gave me something to drink, I was a stranger and you welcomed me, I was naked and you gave me clothing, I was sick and you took care of me, I was in prison and you visited me."
Mark 10:21-22 Jesus, looking at him, loved him and said, "You lack one thing; go, sell what you own, and give the money to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven; then come, follow me." When he heard this, he was shocked and went away grieving, for he had many possessions.
Mark 12:41-44 He sat down opposite the treasury, and watched the crowd putting money into the treasury. Many rich people put in large sums. 42 A poor widow came and put in two small copper coins, which are worth a penny. 43 Then he called his disciples and said to them, "Truly I tell you, this poor widow has put in more than all those who are contributing to the treasury. 44 For all of them have contributed out of their abundance; but she out of her poverty has put in everything she had, all she had to live on."
Luke 14:12-14 He said also to the one who had invited him, "When you give a luncheon or a dinner, do not invite your friends or your brothers or your relatives or rich neighbors, in case they may invite you in return, and you would be repaid. But when you give a banquet, invite the poor, the crippled, the lame, and the blind. And you will be blessed, because they cannot repay you, for you will be repaid at the resurrection of the righteous."
Luke 16:19-25 "There was a rich man who was dressed in purple and fine linen and who feasted sumptuously every day. And at his gate lay a poor man named Lazarus, covered with sores, who longed to satisfy his hunger with what fell from the rich man's table; even the dogs would come and lick his sores. The poor man died and was carried away by the angels to be with Abraham. The rich man also died and was buried.
In Hades, where he was being tormented, he looked up and saw Abraham far away with Lazarus by his side. He called out, 'Father Abraham, have mercy on me, and send Lazarus to dip the tip of his finger in water and cool my tongue; for I am in agony in these flames.' But Abraham said, 'Child, remember that during your lifetime you received your good things, and Lazarus in like manner evil things; but now he is comforted here, and you are in agony.
Luke 11:39-42 Then the Lord said to him, "Now you Pharisees clean the outside of the cup and of the dish, but inside you are full of greed and wickedness. You fools! Did not the one who made the outside make the inside also? So give for alms those things that are within; and see, everything will be clean for you. "But woe to you Pharisees! For you tithe mint and rue and herbs of all kinds, and neglect justice and the love of God
Luke 12:16-21 Then he told them a parable: "The land of a rich man produced abundantly. And he thought to himself, 'What should I do, for I have no place to store my crops?' Then he said, 'I will do this: I will pull down my barns and build larger ones, and there I will store all my grain and my goods. And I will say to my soul, 'Soul, you have ample goods laid up for many years; relax, eat, drink, be merry.' But God said to him, 'You fool! This very night your life is being demanded of you. And the things you have prepared, whose will they be?' So it is with those who store up treasures for themselves but are not rich toward God."
Matthew 19:24 Again I tell you, it is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to enter the kingdom of God."
Whether you're anti-religion or not is not the question here, the question is how does someone who is religious read these quotes then votes Republican? I've asked this question and have never received a straight answer from a Republican. They mix in some distorted quotes about Jesus not wanting people to get handouts or something similar even though the 10 quotes above are 100% in favor of the poor.
Some good points there, SD.
It's no secret here that I am the one with religious faith (not Mormon, as the board idiots like to proclaim). My wife and I recently pulled our family out of the church we had attended since the birth of my daughter, partially because it was becoming increasingly conservative and outspoken about political issues under a new pastor that I was not comfortable with supporting with my tithes, or having my children indoctrinated with these beliefs.
Over the past two years I was involved with a heavy-duty bible study (would probably be equal to a workload of a seminary class). One of the funny things that happened was, every other person in the study became more and more unified in their opinions on the issues, while I became more and more convinced of nearly the opposite while doing the same study.
One example: We studied the Second Chapter of the book of Ruth (http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Ruth+2&version=NASB) where Ruth is invited to glean the fields of Boaz to feed her and her mother-in-law. The pastor was trying to tie this example into welfare, going as far as to say that the Christian solution would be to eliminate welfare assistance altogether and allow generous Americans to allow the poor to collect scraps from our factories and fields to attain a living.
I asked him if an reformed welfare program, one that emphasized (and required) education and/or training wouldn't be, on a societal level, much the same as the allowing someone to glean - and allow them to possibly climb themselves out of the necessity for such assistance. He said no, it was government-run and would be counter to Christianity. Then I asked if the earliest Christians did not band together to care for widows and orphans on a societal level (within the Christian communities of the Roman Empire, and between those communities as needs were expressed, as referenced in the Pauline Letters). He said it wasn't the same thing, and went on to a new topic.
I usually consider myself a political moderate. I can vote Democrat or Republican (I go for "best for the position," not that I am always right). I seemed pretty damn liberal in this church towards the end of our attendance there. The church's position towards Christianity was also trending hard towards the conservative – not fundamentalist, but closer to it than I want to raise my children under.
We started attending a United Methodist church in town. I grew up in that church, and though it has more of the trappings that make me chuckle than the old church (the standing up for the reading of the Gospel, the ritualistic sayings after hymns and prayers and such), it is much more open and inviting to differing viewpoints than my old church had become.
they named a book after babe ruth?
Yes. I beleive the opening line from the Book of Ruth reads "Pitch unto me thine fastball and I shall crusheth it with my wooden staff."
does the book of gehrig just suddenly end without explanation, like it had some kind of....disease
It ends mid sentence, just like The Sopranos.
The book of Bonds has large headings, is surly in tone but lacks potency.
The Book of Todd reads like it was written by a 12 year old Mexican girl. It's often largely forgotten and deemed unimportant.
Quote from: Geowhizzer on August 18, 2012, 11:55:18 AM... One of the funny things that happened was, every other person in the study became more and more unified in their opinions on the issues, while I became more and more convinced of nearly the opposite while doing the same study....
Sounds to me like you're doing it right.
Quote from: SD on August 18, 2012, 10:20:07 AM
So I loosely follow religion, I don't think Jesus's teachings are the problem, but the people who hide behind the bible to promote their own beliefs. To me Jesus's teachings in their purest form are good lessons to live by, but the idiots who follow his teachings have distorted them to a disgraceful level. I believe Jesus spent time in India where he learned or maybe taught Buddhism [some say he was called St. Issa due to some scripts which have never been recovered, maybe he was maybe he wasn't] Something I'll never understand is how Republicans align themselves with religion and the wealthy when it's apparent Jesus was for the poor and the sick. I read the NT and I come away with the impression that Jesus was a liberal.
Anyway, here are 10 quotes from Jesus which support my beliefs:
QuoteLuke 6:20-21 Then he looked up at his disciples and said: 'Blessed are you who are poor, for yours is the kingdom of God.
'Blessed are you who are hungry now, for you will be filled. 'Blessed are you who weep now, for you will laugh.
Luke 4:16-19 When he came to Nazareth, where he had been brought up, he went to the synagogue on the sabbath day, as was his custom. He stood up to read, and the scroll of the prophet Isaiah was given to him. He unrolled the scroll and found the place where it was written:
'The Spirit of the Lord is upon me, because he has anointed me to bring good news to the poor. He has sent me to proclaim release to the captives and recovery of sight to the blind, to let the oppressed go free, to proclaim the year of the Lord's favour.'
Matthew 25:34-36 Then the king will say to those at his right hand, "Come, you that are blessed by my Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world; for I was hungry and you gave me food, I was thirsty and you gave me something to drink, I was a stranger and you welcomed me, I was naked and you gave me clothing, I was sick and you took care of me, I was in prison and you visited me."
Mark 10:21-22 Jesus, looking at him, loved him and said, "You lack one thing; go, sell what you own, and give the money to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven; then come, follow me." When he heard this, he was shocked and went away grieving, for he had many possessions.
Mark 12:41-44 He sat down opposite the treasury, and watched the crowd putting money into the treasury. Many rich people put in large sums. 42 A poor widow came and put in two small copper coins, which are worth a penny. 43 Then he called his disciples and said to them, "Truly I tell you, this poor widow has put in more than all those who are contributing to the treasury. 44 For all of them have contributed out of their abundance; but she out of her poverty has put in everything she had, all she had to live on."
Luke 14:12-14 He said also to the one who had invited him, "When you give a luncheon or a dinner, do not invite your friends or your brothers or your relatives or rich neighbors, in case they may invite you in return, and you would be repaid. But when you give a banquet, invite the poor, the crippled, the lame, and the blind. And you will be blessed, because they cannot repay you, for you will be repaid at the resurrection of the righteous."
Luke 16:19-25 "There was a rich man who was dressed in purple and fine linen and who feasted sumptuously every day. And at his gate lay a poor man named Lazarus, covered with sores, who longed to satisfy his hunger with what fell from the rich man's table; even the dogs would come and lick his sores. The poor man died and was carried away by the angels to be with Abraham. The rich man also died and was buried.
In Hades, where he was being tormented, he looked up and saw Abraham far away with Lazarus by his side. He called out, 'Father Abraham, have mercy on me, and send Lazarus to dip the tip of his finger in water and cool my tongue; for I am in agony in these flames.' But Abraham said, 'Child, remember that during your lifetime you received your good things, and Lazarus in like manner evil things; but now he is comforted here, and you are in agony.
Luke 11:39-42 Then the Lord said to him, "Now you Pharisees clean the outside of the cup and of the dish, but inside you are full of greed and wickedness. You fools! Did not the one who made the outside make the inside also? So give for alms those things that are within; and see, everything will be clean for you. "But woe to you Pharisees! For you tithe mint and rue and herbs of all kinds, and neglect justice and the love of God
Luke 12:16-21 Then he told them a parable: "The land of a rich man produced abundantly. And he thought to himself, 'What should I do, for I have no place to store my crops?' Then he said, 'I will do this: I will pull down my barns and build larger ones, and there I will store all my grain and my goods. And I will say to my soul, 'Soul, you have ample goods laid up for many years; relax, eat, drink, be merry.' But God said to him, 'You fool! This very night your life is being demanded of you. And the things you have prepared, whose will they be?' So it is with those who store up treasures for themselves but are not rich toward God."
Matthew 19:24 Again I tell you, it is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to enter the kingdom of God."
Whether you're anti-religion or not is not the question here, the question is how does someone who is religious read these quotes then votes Republican? I've asked this question and have never received a straight answer from a Republican. They mix in some distorted quotes about Jesus not wanting people to get handouts or something similar even though the 10 quotes above are 100% in favor of the poor.
I think that one answer to your question SD is that people have a tendency to interpret things such as scripture to fit their own world view. People can generally find things in religious writings to, in their interpretation, support their point of view.
In the case of your examples, a religious conservative Republican could site numerous other verses (versus?) to justify their beliefs and put the above quote in a limited context. It is usually fruitless to use scripture to argue a point because one can always argue a counterpoint. At least in their own mind.
But it is a great question you bring up, and is at the root of the original divide between Protestantism and the pre-existing Catholicism. With the burgeoning new faith of Protestantism they rejected the prevailing view of "blessed are the poor." They said screw that, our new church is never going to get rich that way. They sacrificed the control of keeping people poor, primarily occupied in surviving and getting by, for a new world view that extolled the virtues of hard work, productivity and achievement as a means of salvation.
The cynical view holds that the idea was it being a lot easier for your church to get rich if your people work hard and get rich and tithe to you, than if your people are poor and tithe 10% of nothing to you. Especially if you don't have huge armies and political partners at your disposal to go forth and do you bidding.
So the Protestant (Puritan) work ethic - working for God - was introduced as a means to salvation, and sloth and laziness were reviled. 'Doing good works' such as feeding the poor took a back seat to building Cathedrals and infrastructure.
e.g.
2 Thessalonians 3:10
"For even when we were with you, we would give you this command: If anyone is not willing to work, let him not eat," and numerous other examples, even if not by Jesus, equating work and success with godliness and the poor, unproductive, always on IR loser with not making the best of their own means. - And probably here lies the antecedents of today's liberal vs conservative arguments, with a Republican view that in this land of opportunity the poor are leaches on society.
The cynical view would also hold that these quintessential teachings of Jesus (the Sermon on the Mount including the beatitudes - blessed are the poor, the meek, humble and such, and turn the other cheek) were also manipulated as a means of The Man (or The Woman if she happened to be the presiding pope) keeping the people down and maintaining control. The ideal being if they are meek, docile and obedient they are saintly.
However, much of this was, as I said a manipulation. One difficulty is that the original teachings have been altered through so many translations (Aramaic, Greek, Latin, Ye Olde English) that by either necessity or intention the original meanings have often been changed or misunderstood.
For example, many have heard the quote "It is easier for a camel to fit through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to enter the gates of heaven." This seems to support the idea it is good to be poor and implies wealth leads to damnation.
However others contend this is a reference to a common metaphor of the time. Jerusalem was surrounded by a wall (as it is now) and there were large gates to enter. At night these gates were closed to protect against invaders and only a small door was left open for late travelers. That small door was called "the eye of the needle." So to enter, a merchant's camel had to kneel to crawl through, the idea simply being one had to be humble to enter the kingdom in wealth, not that the rich were damned. Others or course refute this saying there is no proof of such a gate.
So the point being, there is a large enough body of scripture and enough ambiguity of meaning and translation, and even enough of conflicting verses, that people can put their own spin and build a case around its interpretation, whether liberal or conservative, and it will generally suit their own predispositions.
I appreciate the rare people who pursue truth rather affirmation. Apparently Reggie White was such a person. At a later point in his life he learned Hebrew to better understand the Bible and was disillusioned with what he found - that there was a gulf between what he then came to understand as original teachings and an apparent bill of goods he was sold by the 'experts' who had previously taught him, and his views accordingly became less rigid.
In the end though conscience > scripture, which was only meant as a compass to point in a direction, not take over one's sensibilities.
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/08/12/fashion/weddings/angela-sclafani-and-michael-olexa-vows.html?_r=1&pagewanted=all
"its in gods hands now"
2 days later hes dead
go god go
religion is so groovy
http://videocafe.crooksandliars.com/david/pastor-apologizes-praying-alongside-muslims-
Feel good story of the year.
pointless without FF here to defend god
28 pages in and you guys haven't worked all of this out yet? Slackers.
Pope Benny the 16th says.. Peace Out
Quote from: Seabiscuit36 on February 11, 2013, 09:38:42 AM
Pope Benny the 16th says.. Peace Out
The story basically is as trite as the changing out of the national christmas tree. "The head of an organization with zero relevancy to the world has stepped down."
My HOA elected a new president last week. Now here's bob with the weather.
(http://www.geenstijl.nl/archives/images/pausadiosamigos.jpg)
i wonder how theyre going to top hiring a former member of the hitler youth
sandusky?
I nominate you.
A jew pope who gambles and drinks.
thats the second nomination today for me
i would burn the vatican down and disband catholicism. that is my platform.
Imagine putting eagle wings on the side of the pope mobile
instead of crackers and wine, wire dvds and yin
And breakfast burritos. Gotta have some texican flavor in there
http://www.barstoolsports.com/nyc/super-page/just-your-friendly-annual-reminder-that-if-you-walk-around-with-ashes-smeared-on-your-face-today-youre-an-icehole/
Don't ask God to find you a boyfriend if you're not going to like what he sends you. God hates rejection. (http://abcnews.go.com/US/christianmingle-date-rape-victims-sought-california-cops/story?id=18531150)
Bad Religion (not the band) (http://theoatmeal.com/comics/religion)
http://blogs.suntimes.com/ebert/bill-moyers-on-creeping-creati.html
does the white smoke means there is a new pope or is it a signal for the cops from an alter boy?
its nomdi getting burned again
Who gives a shtein? Can anyone on here tell me one thing the last one did (other than collect dust)?
He had a Twitter account. He never used it, but he had it.
this whole process is beyond insulting to humanity
in 50000 years when they read about this in the history books people are going to laugh
serious question - why cant their be young popes
just saw that this new cat is 76.....didnt the other guy quit because hes too old?
i dont know but that dude has a sweet yamaka
Quote from: MDS on March 13, 2013, 02:11:01 PM
does the white smoke means there is a new pope or is it a signal for the cops from an alter boy?
lol!
what up Pope Frank
so the new pope is huge fan of the homos
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/03/13/pope-francis-gay-marriage-anti_n_2869221.html
NOT
New Pope against gay marriage, gay adoption, gay driving; for gay dancing, gay fashion.
i cant wait to hear what he thinks about abortion
and on the news right when he get picked by his child touching brothers they called him a reformer. what is that. is that like a maverick or something?
why does religion have to exist
Quote from: General_Failure on March 14, 2013, 02:24:35 AM
New Pope against gay marriage, gay adoption, gay driving; for gay dancing, gay fashion.
Yeah, I don't see how he could be against gay fashion [/anypopepicture]
He'll probably will say condoms are worse than aids, that mentally abusing children with stories of perpetual torture, horror, and sadness AFTER they die is okay, and that science is wrong, and sometimes right. The good thing is that more and more people treat this acts for what they are, a cult that believes in a fairy tale.
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lol
north carolina republicans want to start a state religion
Quote from: MDS on March 31, 2013, 06:21:34 PM
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lol
Do my eyes deceive me? Is that Bill Maher?
I doubt it. He's never had a bad thing to say about religion or religious people.
he is also repulsed by black women
And for some not only has he never had sex with Ann Coulter, but he can't stand her.
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kansas is awesome
Speaking of awesome
http://bigstory.ap.org/article/2nd-child-pa-couple-dies-after-only-praying
Quote from: rjs246 on April 23, 2013, 08:47:04 AM
Speaking of awesome
http://bigstory.ap.org/article/2nd-child-pa-couple-dies-after-only-praying
Jeez that's awful. That child should have been removed from the home after the first incident.
Hopefully they're sent to jail.
lets face it a kid coming from those 2 wasnt going to amount to anything more than a gibbering lunatic religious zealot. so...whatever.
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on April 23, 2013, 08:57:46 AM
Quote from: rjs246 on April 23, 2013, 08:47:04 AM
Speaking of awesome
http://bigstory.ap.org/article/2nd-child-pa-couple-dies-after-only-praying
Jeez that's awful. That child should have been removed from the home after the first incident.
Hopefully they're sent to jail.
My understanding is that they broke the terms of probation for the first child's death, so they should be in jail immediately.
Granted, I'm no lawyer, so who knows how the system will work.
The old testament with hilarious illustrations of actual bible verses. (http://www.bricktestament.com/home.html)
I highly recommend going to the Law section and then looking up bestiality.
(http://www.thebricktestament.com/the_law/beastiality/lv18_23a.jpg)
QuoteLeviticus 18:23
'Do not have sex with any kind of animal. You would become unclean by doing so.'
disgusting on multiple levels
http://www.salon.com/2013/05/28/tennessee_republican_uses_bible_as_weapon_against_poor_partner/
to be fair to the holier than thou dio carbon copy hipster liberal author and the disgusting bible thumping jesus freak from appalachia, SOME people are simply doing nothing and enjoying government handouts
Quote from: MDS on May 30, 2013, 01:30:02 PM
SOME people are simply doing nothing and enjoying government handouts
worst argument ever......for anything....in fact its the rights go to argument for everything from saying all muslims are terrorists to everyone needs a gun no matter where they go...its basically saying well see X happens sometimes so lets
never do Y
it was more of a reaction to the piece stating the food stamps are this perfect little program that everyone is using until the economy turns around because the big mean wall street executives are greedy
aspects of that are true just like aspects of right wing propaganda about lazy negros waiting for the welfare checks are true. in short try not to read soap box liberal talking points because they accomplish as much as what hannity does.
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http://www.buzzfeed.com/andrewkaczynski/is-this-the-most-embarrassing-interview-fox-news-has-ever-do
Saw that. I'm interested in reading the guy's book to see what he has to say. Even for those that reject the faith, Christ has been a major historical figure.
EDIT: Oh, and the media sucks. Fox, CNN, MSNBC, the networks they all suck.
please dont lump those others in with fox....its not even the same galaxy
that particular interview was truly one of the worst ever and something youd never see from a major news organization other than fox
That wasn't even an interview. It was strictly Fox News pandering to the lowest common denominator (again) by saying a Muslim can't be objective about other religious, especially when it comes to Hey Zeus. Cletus in Alabama was watching that segment while yelling "Jesus rocks!" and high fiving and crucifix.
I coincidentally bought that book like two weeks ago because it seemed interesting, but since this interview went viral it's went to #1 on Amazon. Well done Fox.
it wasnt even on fox..it was fox online
im guessing thats somehow even less restrictive to objectivity
So I'm at the car wash and this guy starts talking to me about washing cars, he tells me to watch this video called 23 minutes in hell
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VJrAZlkYPtQ
wow...these people are unreal. It's always these conservative nuts who have these supposed dreams/visions. Yes you're special because you're old and white and need attention.
thats 47 minutes. pass.
in hell a minute is 120 seconds
all the cool people will be in hell
heaven = lame
Quote from: ice grillin you on July 30, 2013, 02:58:55 PM
in hell a minute is 120 seconds
Is that why Eagles games feel like they last an eternity?
i'm not watching that idiocy.
as for the fox news interview, his response regarding his expertise in religion was so good, i think i actually tinkled a little laughing at it. it's one thing to knock it out of the park with those hypocritical jerkoffs but it's another think to destroy them entirely. holy shtein that was delicious.
A friend recently posted on facebook that her daughter was having problems with a bully at school and was seeking advice on how to best handle it. One of the replies reads "Sound like that kid has some issues. pray for her. But Kick her ass first."
I think most people are aware when they are being hypocritical at times, except when religion is involved. They just don't have a clue. It's kind of fascinating to me.
good stuff
http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/tue-december-3-2013/world-war-c?xrs=share_copy
http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/tue-december-3-2013/world-war-c---happy-holidays?xrs=share_copy
I love that Palin was the first to target the new pope, now he's got Rush saying that the Pope is Marxist.
I read a couple of days ago that the pope was saying before he was a priest that among other things he worked as a bar bouncer in Argentina. Thought that was funny.
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two jesus freaks came up to me today at the park. i made one of them cry. basically, my science-based, reason-based responses made her so overwhelmed she started to tear up. it was weird.
everyone needs to watch the new vice.....its beyond infuriating
http://abcnews.go.com/News/this-is-the-pregnant-woman-sudan-wants-to-hang-for-marrying-a-christian/blogEntry?id=23749356&ref=http%3A%2F%2Ft.co%2Fc7SG1CqRP9
God also hates skateboarders (http://firebrandprogressives.org/elementary-school-teacher-says-lord-grabbed-made-attack-kid-skateboard-video/)
United Church of Christ Sues North Carolina to Allow Gay Marriage (http://time.com/79734/united-church-of-christ-sues-north-carolina-to-allow-gay-marriage/)
No, read it again.
Iran gettin it done, yo
QuoteCapital Punishment: Iran Billionaire Executed Over $2.6B Bank Fraud
TEHRAN, Iran — A billionaire businessman at the heart of a $2.6 billion state bank scam in Iran, the largest fraud case since the country's 1979 Islamic Revolution, was executed Saturday, state television reported.
Authorities put Mahafarid Amir Khosravi, also known as Amir Mansour Aria, to death at Evin prison, just north of the capital, Tehran, the TV reported. The report said the execution came after Iran's Supreme Court upheld his death sentence.
Khosravi's lawyer, Gholam Ali Riahi, was quoted by news website khabaronline.ir as saying that the death sentence was carried out without him being given any notice. Death sentences in Iran are usually carried out by hanging.
"I had not been informed about the execution of my client," Riahi said. "All the assets of my client are at the disposal of the prosecutor's office."
State officials did not immediately comment on Riahi's claim.
The fraud involved using forged documents to get credit at one of Iran's top financial institutions, Bank Saderat, to purchase assets including state-owned companies like major steel producer Khuzestan Steel Co.
Khosravi's business empire included more than 35 companies from mineral water production to a football club and meat imports from Brazil. According to Iranian media reports, the bank fraud began in 2007.
A total of 39 defendants were convicted in the case. Four received death sentences, two got life sentences and the rest received sentences of up to 25 years in prison.
The trials raised questions about corruption at senior levels in Iran's tightly controlled economy during the administration of former President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad.
Damn.
Here they get raises and pats on the back
if you want to know why i hate religion....especially ultra orthodox jews....read this
http://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2014/11/10/outcast-3
Quote from: MDS on November 03, 2014, 01:26:18 PM
if you want to know why i hate religion....especially ultra orthodox jews....read this
http://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2014/11/10/outcast-3
this has been a huge story around me for the past couple weeks
http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2014/10/15/d-c-rabbi-charged-with-voyeurism-took-cross-country-trip-with-a-woman-other-than-his-wife.html
http://www.washingtonpost.com/local/crime/police-arrest-georgetown-rabbi-on-voyeurism-charge/2014/10/14/15a73206-53cc-11e4-809b-8cc0a295c773_story.html
Just go online and watch some porn dude. wtf.
actually that dude is cool
at least hes putting those cult rituals to some kind of tangible use
Pastor busted for fondling mentally challenged niece, 15, in church
http://www.philly.com/philly/news/20141103_Pastor_busted_for_fondling_mentally_challenged_niece__15__in_church.html#KTDwBjQ6XCJ0yzpw.99
haha this is incredible
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bntfUA6TmLs
Jesus, that's awful. Who's buying ten packs of zesty energy drinks?
anyone catholic here?
i was at my first mass today....and holy shtein is this religion a trainwreck. i thought judiasm was farged up but jesus christ this was torture.
-everyone was bowing before going up the stage...or alter...or whatever its called. are they japanese?
-the thing in the back that holds the jesus cookies looks like r2d2 from star wars. i swear. it was cool.
-there was this weird kneeling part that i refused to participate in. even so, thats pretty farged up. nobody should have to kneel for anyone, this isnt 16th century europe.
-it took like an hour, but evidently this was a "fast" mass. a jewish wedding takes like 20 minutes, in and out. maybe the rabbi has a longer spiel...otherwise its a few prayers and OUT. also the glass smashing thing is not a part of the ceremony, which is awful because its the only good part of any religion. everyone should adopt it.
-the priest, who i assume either molested kids or looked the other way when someone else did, essentially said jesus believed in catholicism. he was a farging jew who other people made out to be god. right? am i wrong? what the hell.
-he also said jesus will be resurrected. didnt that already happen? so now its going to happen again? the farg.
all in all an enjoyable experience.
:-D
My favorite part is shaking hands with the hotties so it is important you sit in the right place. Choose your seat wisely.
You should go to a mass in a predominate Mexican neighborhood, and just sit back. It's a thing to see.
Damn right bionic! Choose your seats wisely. The chick to whom I lost my virginity - that's how I met her. Catholic Church and Sunday school .
The wedding I attended tonight in Lima was catholic but this priest was more game show host and carnie barker. He was singing and yelling and conversing. Total different atmosphere than what I'm used to. Even the Peruvians thought he was a bit off the wall.
This is all you need to know about Catholicism: It is an article of faith--meaning if you don't believe it, Rome says you're not Catholic-that the wine and host actually become the body and blood of Christ, and then you eat and drink it. For Catholics, this is explicitely NOT a symbolic thing, they believe (or are supposed to) that they are EATING the body of Christ and DRINKING his blood every Sunday.
That is no more ludicrous than Scientology, Mormonism, or any other wacked out cult crap you can dig up.
http://www.salon.com/2014/11/14/why_the_internet_is_slowly_strangling_religion_partner/
Pope Frank is coming to Philly next September
Early copy of the Qur'an discovered (http://www.medievalists.net/2014/11/17/early-copy-quran-discovered/)
QuoteResearchers in Germany have discovered that a manuscript of Qur'an written between 20 and 40 years after the Prophet Muhammad's death, making it one of the earliest copies of the Islamic holy book known to be in existence.
Scholars at the Coranica Project, part of the University of Tübingen, examined a manuscript written in Kufic script, one of the oldest forms of Arabic writing. Using carbon-14 dating on three samples of the manuscript parchment, the researchers concluded that it was more than 95 percent likely to have originated in the period 649-675 AD.
The manuscript is one of more than 20 fragments of Kufic script held by the Tübingen University Library. This particular item was donated to the university in the 19th century.
The entire manuscript has already been digitized and can be viewed here (http://idb.ub.uni-tuebingen.de/diglit/MaVI165).
i thought that link was going to go to a cartoony muhammad comic strip or something. disappointed.
They had nice hand writing back then but their spelling was atroscious.
How cool would it be if they realized the stuff like stoning women who got raped was mistranslated from women who got raped should be allowed to get stoned.
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Je$u$ Love$ You (http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2014/11/houston-pastor-refuses-to-bury-93-year-old-women-who-didnt-tithe-enough-while-in-a-coma/#.VHZqEOEgoMI.facebook)
texas j
another example of tolerant christians
http://jezebel.com/trans-teen-dies-by-suicide-leaves-tumblr-note-theres-1676351625
http://www.cnn.com/2015/03/13/living/creflo-dollar-jet-feat/index.html
bwahahaha... wonder how close he was before someone asked, "what the farg is this bullshtein...?"
another solid job by religion
https://www.washingtonpost.com/national/a-pregnant-woman-wanted-her-tubes-tied-her-catholic-hospital-said-no/2015/09/13/bd2038ca-57ef-11e5-8bb1-b488d231bba2_story.html
so with the pope in town over the weekend my Jehovah neighbor made sure to voice his opinion on all the other phoney religions and how witnesses are the only true Christians. he really dug into catholics over the molestation cover ups and what not, which I have no problem with but hearing him go on & on about how pure his cult is led me to google rape/molestation by JW's and this came up for me to show him on the spot.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2678038/Jehovahs-Witness-elder-jailed-14-years-sexually-abusing-young-female-members-congregation-raped-one-woman-leaving-pregnant.html (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2678038/Jehovahs-Witness-elder-jailed-14-years-sexually-abusing-young-female-members-congregation-raped-one-woman-leaving-pregnant.html)
he actually went on & on about how its true that if a woman doesn't scream or fight against her attacker she is considered a whore. I asked him who determines if she resisted her attacker and he said the elders do. I asked based on what if they weren't there ? he said they form an opinion on the woman and make their decision from that.
I told him you cant agree with that, what if it was your wife or daughter. he actually said he would side with the elders and shun either one of them.
what an awesome thing to say about your family.
Yeah, I'd go ahead and shun that icehole.
And by shun I mean punch him in the face.
guy was a really great friend, but little by little I have distanced myself from him ever since he turned to that cult. his kids both left the religion (well his son was actually kicked out because he had pre-marital sex) and while he hasn't shunned them he def treats them as if they did wrong. the rest of his cult has shunned them and wont even step foot in his house. he used to be pretty high up but now is pretty much just an errand boy at this point so he is only useful to them for cutting the grass at the hall and moving things around with his pickup.
2 Brothers Were Beaten for Hours at Secretive New York Church, Police Say (http://www.nytimes.com/2015/10/15/nyregion/lucas-leonard-beating-death-at-upstate-new-york-church.html?smid=pl-share)
QuoteNEW HARTFORD, N.Y. — After services on Sunday, the two brothers were called into a counseling session in the sanctuary of a secretive upstate church here called the Word of Life.
The session was supposed to be a chance for church members "to discuss their spiritual state," the authorities said on Wednesday. The brothers, ages 19 and 17, were met by their parents and an older sister, as well as other congregants.
Then the counseling turned violent.
"Both brothers were subjected to physical punishment in the hopes that each would confess to prior sins and ask for forgiveness," Chief Michael S. Inserra of the New Hartford Police Department said at a news conference on Wednesday.
For several hours punches and kicks landed all over the teenagers' bodies, he said — on their stomachs, genitals, backs and thighs.
The older brother, Lucas Leonard, was found unresponsive and not breathing the next morning by church members, Chief Inserra said. He was taken to a hospital, where he was pronounced dead from blunt force trauma.
So one less religious nut on the planet then?
Cool.
QuoteMichele Bachmann said that there should be a bigger effort to convert Jews to Christianity ahead of the arrival of Jesus Christ. "We recognize the shortness of the hour," Bachmann said on Tony Perkins' radio program during a tour of Israel of last week. "And that's why we as a remnant want to be faithful in these days and do what it is that the Holy Spirit is speaking to each one of us, to be faithful in the Kingdom and to help bring in as many as we can — even among the Jews — share Jesus Christ with everyone that we possibly can because, again, He's coming soon."
I've been laughing at this livestream I found via a FB site. It's basically a Croatian dude who just stares at you for a while. There is a whole bunch of "supporting" nonsense from people who sound completely brainwashed. Damn...people are just crazy stupid.
http://braco-tv.me/livestream.jsp
Wiki page about the dude. (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Braco_%28faith_healer%29)
He has triangular eyes
MA
http://wtop.com/charles-county/2016/01/md-parents-file-suit-federal-court-charles-county-schools-high-school-staff/
how liberal is the Netherlands?....this cat murders his sister then is found to have murdered the countries former health minister because god told him to and yet they have privacy laws that prevent his name from being released
http://www.phillyvoice.com/man-admits-killing-dutch-ex-minister-over-euthanas/
That doesn't surprise me. We can accuse somebody of multiple murders - and even have them openly confess their crime - but for heaven's sake, don't you dare use their real name, because it might embarrass them.
The whole EU privacy thing is a complete pain in the ass, and you'd have a hard time designing any system that does a better job at preventing things from getting done.
(Side note: On my previous job, I was tasked with going over historical records and consolidating purchases of things like metal raw material and industrial chemicals. I needed to find out who was responsible for what activity at a number of plants, and it was like running into a brick wall. You couldn't look people up in the company directory, and even if you could find a name, their title and/or working group would be completely invisible. And nobody would help me sort through it all - the best I got was a bunch of finger pointing.)
I like it.
yeah I don't really see the problem....even with criminals...the obvious important thing that this cat is put away...does his name even matter
Exactly. The practice of public shaming is part of why the justice system is completely farged in this country. The whole idea behind jail sentences is that you pay your debt to society and then, you know, the debt is paid and you're supposed to be able to go on with your life. That doesn't work in a world where everyone knows that you committed a crime once. In fact, for most people who spend time in prison, you might as well just put them behind bars for life because their chances of returning to society and contributing are pretty farging small.
This dude is a murderer and probably mentally ill. So, get him into prison or a hospital, get him treatment and get him medication if he can be helped. Do whatever civilized societies do with people like this in situations like this. If he can't be helped, let him rot. But releasing his name does nothing to further the cause of justice.
Sells ads though don't it.
I really don't care one way or the other when it comes to releasing a criminal's name, but if I had to choose, I'd probably lean towards it being public info. If nothing else, it exposes your white collar wall st criminal types who need to be publicly shamed as much as possible.
On the other hand, it gives your white trash kid with grandpa's guns the recognition he wanted.
Quote from: General_Failure on February 05, 2016, 02:05:24 PM
On the other hand, it gives your white trash kid with grandpa's guns the recognition he wanted.
Most times after a bullet's in their head
https://projects.tampabay.com/projects/2019/investigations/scientology-clearwater-real-estate/
This story is crazy.
Great link.
https://twitter.com/rightwingwatch/status/1227657884395327489 21
Wasn't sure where to put this at first, then remembered we had an old religion thread. Seems like the best place.
My church made the local news under the larger umbrella of the impending split of the United Methodist denomination over LGBTQ+ issues.
Naples church takes progressive stance pending Methodist split (https://www.fox4now.com/news/local-news/naples-church-takes-progressive-stance-pending-methodist-split?fbclid=IwAR0Ibp0bhPSEakN7a70WOULie8q6xVGYCYfZRi6VxBx9AMTPf3octLpIVV0)
In this case progressive means, treated like humans/children of God rather than as animals/the spawn of Satan
Quote from: Diomedes on February 24, 2021, 08:36:15 PM
In this case progressive means, treated like humans/children of God rather than as animals/the spawn of Satan
Pretty much.
Seems like it's been a while since a Christian sect had a good schism.
Quote from: General_Failure on February 24, 2021, 08:42:23 PM
Seems like it's been a while since a Christian sect had a good schism.
Is that what a priest shoots when the 8 year old is pulling his junk?
No, you're thinking of the Holy Seemen.
can someone explain to me how churches are not taxed
https://twitter.com/rightwingwatch/status/1421886805427867654 21
Well you see, if you tax the churches then you start down the slippery slope of churches becoming involved in politics. Could you imagine?
Quote from: ice grillin you on August 01, 2021, 09:48:21 PM
can someone explain to me how churches are not taxed
https://twitter.com/rightwingwatch/status/1421886805427867654 21
He needs his ass whipped.
Churches should absolutely be taxed. Joel Osteen's joint rakes in the cash. He rolls around in a Ferrari and when it came time to open his doors to help Harvey victims he didn't do it until he was shamed. And even when he did they had workers passing around a collection plate.
Sometimes we will get churches call in to buy some lumber and plywood and they'll want to have the taxes waived. Which we can do - provided they fill the paperwork out. But there's a few instances where they seem to think they don't have to. Had one dude arguing with me over $13 once.
so I've largely become numb to the far right zealotrous white supremacist wild ass craziness but this thread has me legitimately scared for the first time in a while....tell me I'm overreacting
https://twitter.com/tlecaque/status/1533807193874739200 21&t=YYLPNg2FtzjTXGGzEF7VYA
We didn't treat it as call to terrorism when someone made Obama paper targets, and for the same reason; the people in charge like that sort of thing.