its about time the best tv show ever got its own thread...
the following story from todays baltimore sun talks about how they pick out the clothes for the characters....****BE WARNED**** it contains some spoilers albeit very minor ones about casting....
article mentions that the new season should air this winter.....thats pretty big news
for all you people that have been sleeping on this show i implore you to start netflixing from season one so youre ready to roll this winter for season 5
http://www.baltimoresun.com/entertainment/tv/bal-to.wire30apr30,0,7133281.story
I was disappointed last year. My brothers boy was supposed to be on the show as Carcetti's Aid but his scenes never made the Cut. Another guy i worked with was on the show 2 years ago as one of Carcetti's boys when Tommy was out drinking at the bar and his wife left, and he ended up banging that broad.
What's the wire?
A show about black people
i've seen boyz in da hood at least 5 times so i'm good.
but thanks.
worst thread ever
best scene ever
http://youtube.com/watch?v=1wmgghlEagA&mode=related&search=
n/m
good lookin igy.
guesses are season 5 rolls with curb in january.
That was the first and last 4 minutes of that show I'll ever watch. I've seen better acting in a high school play.
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typical response coming from a star trek nerd.
michael k. williams not getting an emmy nomination is highway robbery.
???
judge the wire on one scene that igy likes. well done.
seriously, start with season 1 episode 1. its leaps and bounds better than the sopranos, lost, whatever.
Ive given up on Lost, it just lost me. I have the past 5 epi's on tivo but i have no desire to watch them. To MDS's credit i do have 19 episodes of FNL's ready to get viewed
seriously, start with season 1 episode 1. its leaps and bounds better than the sopranos, lost, whatever.
you do realize youre speaking to a guy from lycoming county and telling him to be comfortable watching a show about the inner working of the baltimore city ghetto
yeah...up here in lycoming county, we don't watch teevee shows about the blacks. that's just not how lycoming county rolls...same with union county & all the other counties igy says i live in.
and i don't care enough about any tv show to go back & watch 4 seasons worth of programming so i can "catch up"...who the hell has that much free time? besides mds?
Quote from: Seabiscuit36 on May 01, 2007, 03:46:44 PM
Ive given up on Lost, it just lost me. I have the past 5 epi's on tivo but i have no desire to watch them. To MDS's credit i do have 19 episodes of FNL's ready to get viewed
ok well lost is good still. you shouldnt give up on it. fnl is money, second to the wire in terms of quality.
good lord you all should get teh aids for watching anything over the wire. if you watch one show, it should be the wire. igy is right in that regard, but wrong on everything else.
Would you just shut up already?
good lord you all should get teh aids for watching anything over the wire. if you watch one show, it should be the wire
shtein watch the wire over the movies youll watch...now its certainly not better than a good movie but its the closest a tv show has even been to quality cinema..plus once you start the wire you wont be able to come off it...
the problem is getting people on it...its a problem that exists amongst all races...they are all to often unwilling to give something they deem to be of or about an opposite race a chance simply because they cant relate to it...trust me tho...black white magenta cyan perriwinkle...doesnt matter youll love the wire
stringer's at 930 club this weekend. dj driis fools. dude is a jack of all trades.
it's not that i don't want to watch a show about black people, i used to love The Cosby show, it's that i don't want to watch a show about Baltimore.
is not about baltimore it takes place in baltimore...it could just as easily be taking place in overbrook olney or francisville
dj driis fools
holla
I resent SD being referred to as a Star Trek nerd. He's a Star Wars geek.
Get is straight, fargheads.
The prose on "The Wire" is breathtaking.
Quote from: FastFreddie on May 01, 2007, 04:47:41 PM
The prose on "The Wire" is breathtaking.
So's my johnson.
Quote from: SunMo on May 01, 2007, 04:15:21 PM
it's not that i don't want to watch a show about black people, i used to love The Cosby show, it's that i don't want to watch a show about Baltimore.
Homicide: Life on the Street
Adina Watson, werd.
I stopped watching it in the first season, probably the first episode. They were checking out a crime scene, conversing only with "farg, farg, farg farg, farg. farg." Great writing.
lemme guess you love the sopranos writing tho
I stopped watching that, too. It never went anywhere. How people can love everything just because HBO airs it?
i love (loved in the case of the sopranos) both shows....i was just wondering if the cursing in the sopranos which is just as extensive as the wire bothered you as well
and im far from an hbo fan....in fact im not sure ive even liked any of their original series besides sopranos the wire (i also love real sports and bill maher)...i wouldnt even have hbo right now were it not for the fact that when i tried to cancel it after the last wire season comcast told me my cable rate would actually go up as the hbo/showtime pachage is part of their triple play
Cursing itself doesn't bother me. When one scene that's 4 or 5 minutes long only uses farg from both the people in it, that's not good writing. It's lazy and pandering.
Series & miniseries produced by HBO:
Dramas:
* The Sopranos
* Big Love
* Six Feet Under
* Oz
* The Wire
* Carnivàle
* Deadwood
* The Hitchhiker
* Tales from the Crypt
* Band of Brothers (produced in collaboration with the BBC)
* Rome (produced in collaboration with the BBC)
* From the Earth to the Moon (Miniseries)
Comedies:
* Sex and the City
* Curb Your Enthusiasm
* Tracey Takes On...
* Entourage
* The Larry Sanders Show
* Mr. Show
* Da Ali G Show
* Extras (produced in collaboration with the BBC)
* Arli$$
* Fraggle Rock
* Dream On
* First and Ten
The ones in bold I likely saw nearly every episode. The rest I either rarely saw or flat-out thought they sucked. As for IGY's love for The Wire, I don't get it and never have. It's a good show, I suppose, but I personally don't enjoy it.
BTW: I think Band of Brothers was one of the finest series (or miniseries) ever produced. I have the box set and I still routinely watch it. Everything in it is top notch. Acting, directing, writing... it's all excellent.
You forgot Perversions of Science.
I got that list from wikipedia.
I also omitted x-rated sex series from the list since this is a PG rated message board.
But those are the best ones! And Dream On was practically all sex all the time.
LOL - wasn't it though? He got more tail than anyone in prime time history including a pre-JAG Catherine Bell.
i have from the earth to the moon on dvd...its great
As for IGY's love for The Wire, I don't get it and never have. It's a good show, I suppose, but I personally don't enjoy it.
if you watched it from the start youre the only person ive ever heard from that has watched more than a couple episodes that didnt completely love it
Just not my thing, IGY.
Oz was a good show too but the violence and language wore me down after a while. I get sick of shows pretty easily for the most part.
but the wire actually doesn't really have that much violence. yeah you'll have a show where a people people get killed but it's more about the characters than anything.
the point of this thread was for everyone to bask in the glory of the wire, not say its not that good or that they dont watch it.
you all can go to hell.
commissioner was on svu tonight. i swear everyone on the wire had been in an episode before.
yea it hit me in his last scene.
If they havent been on SVU, then they've been on one of the CSI's or other Law and Orders, and then on Without A Trace and Cold Case.
Quote from: MDS on May 01, 2007, 11:10:20 PM
the point of this thread was for everyone to bask in the glory of the wire, not say its not that good or that they dont watch it.
you all can go to hell.
The point of you is to kill yourself. Shut up.
The Wire is the best show on TV period, no matter what aversions anyone has towards MDS/IGY if you sit down and watch you cant help but be captivated by the show. Heck its my dads favorite show and he's going on 50
tell em kid
tell em
farg Baltimore
http://www.baltimoresun.com/entertainment/tv/bal-to.people02may02,0,6928688.column?coll=bal-artslife-tv
Edgar Award for writing. Whatever that is. Holla.
Whatever that is
most cuss words in one screenplay??
It's some dorky writing award, I guess.
I'm actually hoping The Wire gets shut out from the Emmys, just to prove how racist they are. But most likely they'll get thrown a nomination bone and then everyone will tickle David Chase's balls and send The Sopranos off happy after yet another subpar season.
i dunno, i read some things what were classified as spoilers for the end of the Sopranos, if what i read happens, it's going to be a terrific ending
http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/1559660/20070515/id_0.jhtml
Snoop Dogg wants to be on this show on HBO called The Wire. Never heard of it.
that would be terrible
one of the best things about the wire is that they are all no name actors
it gives you the sense that they are real people from baltimore
like youre watching real life (which you really are)
when you see snoop you only see snoop not a real life charcter
Quote from: ice grillin you on May 16, 2007, 03:39:25 PM
that would be terrible
one of the best things about the wire is that they are all no name actors
it gives you the sense that they are real people from baltimore
like youre watching real life (which you really are)
when you see snoop you only see snoop not a real life charcter
100% agree. this horrible idea.
i would watch it then
Snoop + The Wire = Best Series Emmy, fo shizzle.
adding Snoop would immediately give that show an image of legitimacy
His acting in "Starsky & Hutch" was breathtaking.
Quote from: Jerome99RIP on May 16, 2007, 04:22:45 PM
His acting in "Starsky & Hutch" was breathtaking.
Cormac is heading to you right now with a hatchet.
Quote from: ice grillin you on May 16, 2007, 03:39:25 PM
that would be terrible
one of the best things about the wire is that they are all no name actors
it gives you the sense that they are real people from baltimore
like youre watching real life (which you really are)
when you see snoop you only see snoop not a real life charcter
Cheese aka Method Man did it well, but they did a great job of not focusing on his character. Snoop would be out of place unless they were going the west coast supplier route
Snoop would be okay playing himself. But Ignoramus is right, it would deflect from the show to have a man such as D-o Double G on the show. Besides being the coolest motherfarger on the planet, you can't take anything he does seriously or see him for anything else besides Snoop. So it wouldn't work.
But Ignoramus is right
twice in two days
lather me with wiz mds im on a roll
Got season one disc one on deck on dvdavenue.com
holla
and the best part...after you watch it you can peruse the various locales of bodymore, murderland
fayette and fulton is a good starting point
I've already got plans to start a tour bus route, called Stop Snitchin', See the Real Life Wire.
'Melo is gonna be in the ads and the guests will all get polyurethane crack pipe souvenirs to go with thier size XXXXXXXXXL white tees
Not a bad idea Dio, you just need to find a way to collect food stamps
some wire info from the washington post:
Coming to HBO: 'The Wire' at The Post
Making a rare screen appearance as itself: The Washington Post. A crew from HBO's "The Wire" spent more than six hours filming in our very own offices Sunday, the first time in anyone's recent memory that a movie or TV show has been allowed to shoot here. (Even "All the President's Men" had to re-create the newsroom on a sound stage, and that one was all about us. Word is that some bosses here are big fans of the gritty Baltimore crime drama.)
The plot of the fifth season (set to air early next year) focuses on the media, with some scenes filmed at the Baltimore Sun; Sunday's shoot involved a reporter interviewing for a job at The Post. Style chief Deb Heard's office played the office of a fictional Post Metro editor. (Note to hard-core fans: Apparently it was all new characters, so, no -- McNulty, Avon and Omar weren't here.)
Quote from: ice grillin you on June 05, 2007, 08:44:03 AM
Apparently it was all new characters, so, no -- McNulty, Avon and Omar weren't here.)[/b]
so avon or omar weren't interviewing for a job with the Post? unbelievable.
At first i didnt want them to pursue the Media angle, but considering how i felt about the direction last season took, i cant wait for anything they put together
chase hasnt come off his inittial arc since the series started...it was always meant to be five seasons and each season has been made how it was orignally intended...chase has said that if they had more good ideas they would push hbo for more seasons...but they want it to play out the way they set forth from the start
chevy chase are smurt
btw anyone that wants to read an amazing book should check out david simons "homocide"....its indescribably dope...the opening scene from the wires first ever episode is pulled word for word from it
also here is simon and chases iraq mini series....
http://www.variety.com/article/VR1117960260.html?categoryid=14&cs=1
david chase created the sopranos
david simon and ed burns created the wire
igs.....
gotta read E! magazine a little closer, hon.
ed burns x 2 larry david david chase simon david
all the same person
the important thing is that everyone knows that the wire is the greatest piece of art ever brought to the little screen
oh
READ THE BOOK!!
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Whats that, down in the woods target practice?
yeah when they were on the wire and kima and lester couldnt figure out what they were doing
From the Kansas City Star:
To me, what allows "The Wire" to surpass "The Sopranos" in the pantheon of greatest American TV shows is its ambition and its anger.
Newsday:
A critic for this paper once declared "The Wire" "the greatest dramatic series ever produced for television" and as the fourth season gets under way Sunday night, there's no reason to quibble with that assessment.
San Francisco Chronicle:
The breadth and ambition of "The Wire" are unrivaled and that taken cumulatively over the course of a season -- any season -- it's an astonishing display of writing, acting and storytelling that must be considered alongside the best literature and filmmaking in the modern era.
Chicago Tribune:
If you have only one hour a week for television, give it to "The Wire."
Philadelphia Daily News:
The best show on television.
Seattle Post-Intelligencer:
If there ever was a series that makes HBO a necessity, "The Wire" is it.
Entertainment Weekly:
The best series on TV, period.
New York Post:
One of the finest TV shows ever made.
San Jose Mercury News:
If you stick with it, you will be rewarded with some of the most compelling, provocative drama ever produced for television.
Washington Post:
So is "The Wire" as good as ever? Perhaps even better.
LA Weekly:
A vibrant, masterful work of art, HBO's novelistic urban saga The Wire is the best show on television.
But how do YOU feel, IGY? Do you like this show, or something?
This is the truth.
San Jose Mercury News:
If you stick with it, you will be rewarded with some of the most compelling, provocative drama ever produced for television.
Sun's a bitch
From what I hear (I kind of have one contact) and have read, The Wire isn't even on the radar for Best Drama in the Emmy's. I say good. farg the Hollywood Jews.
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this weeks entertainment magazine on who they think should win emmys this year....
Best Drama
HBO's The Wire dredges the mucky working's of big-city Baltimore: drug dealers who are savvier than politicians, politcos with the cynicism of street-corner pushers, and, in last season's particularly gutting plotline, four inner-city schoolkids who stumble into very different destinies. Additctive, thrilling, crushing, buoyant, dirty, utterly genuine - The Wire is television at it's finest.
Best Supporting Actor/Drama
We like Maestro Harrell. Seeing as The Wire boasts an ensemble of 30-plus pitch perfect actors, it's hard to find a stand out. But Harrell dominated the 2006 season with his performance as 14 year old Randy - a wiseass, hustling, joyful kid whose life goes off the rails. Give this young actor some more work. Now.
QuoteBest Supporting Actor/Drama
We like Maestro Harrell. Seeing as The Wire boasts an ensemble of 30-plus pitch perfect actors, it's hard to find a stand out. But Harrell dominated the 2006 season with his performance as 14 year old Randy - a wiseass, hustling, joyful kid whose life goes off the rails. Give this young actor some more work. Now.
He has to get something, his characters demise was gut wrenching.
Alrighty then. I'm sure it will make you all sad, but since I have plans to watch this project from the first episode through the last (or whatever is currently available in DVD), I'm done reading this thread.
I'd rather not read the spoilers.
dio i would def recommend reading david simons book 'homocide' before watching the wire....it will give you tons of background especially in terms of police dept and street slang that will help in watching the show...in fact the opening scene from the wires first season is pulled word for word from the text of the book....by itself tho the book is an amazing read...especially so for someone living in baltimore such as yourself...im sure you can find the book at any bmore library
also the show is very complex and detailed.....its not a show like the sopranos that you can watch while flipping thru a magazine or cooking something to eat...i watch every wire episode at least twice before i see the next one...it rewards viewers who watch all the episodes and who rewatch episodes
haha, homocide
I liked the Wire the first time I saw it, when it was called Homocide.
Quote from: ice grillin you on June 18, 2007, 11:24:25 AM
this weeks entertainment magazine on who they think should win emmys this year....
Best Drama
HBO's The Wire dredges the mucky working's of big-city Baltimore: drug dealers who are savvier than politicians, politcos with the cynicism of street-corner pushers, and, in last season's particularly gutting plotline, four inner-city schoolkids who stumble into very different destinies. Additctive, thrilling, crushing, buoyant, dirty, utterly genuine - The Wire is television at it's finest.
Best Supporting Actor/Drama
We like Maestro Harrell. Seeing as The Wire boasts an ensemble of 30-plus pitch perfect actors, it's hard to find a stand out. But Harrell dominated the 2006 season with his performance as 14 year old Randy - a wiseass, hustling, joyful kid whose life goes off the rails. Give this young actor some more work. Now.
good calls about harrell didnt even submit for emmy consideration. only bunk and bubs did.
the wire is so much better and different than homocide that you probably should be banned for that post
i didnt even like homocide while the wire is more important than air
only bunk and bubs did.
bunk is so good
not that bubs was weak or anyhting but he did much better work in earlier seasons
bodie is the man and arguably the best in the entire show
none of that matters. the yuppy jews liberals who vote on this shtein dont watch the wire and dont give two craps about it. because the tv critics went ape shtein over the show, they might throw the wire a best writing nomination or it can sneak in best drama nominations but has no shot to win.
its also tough to specifically single out someone from the wire's cast. everyone is so good in it, and its truly an ensemble piece, that saying 1 person was better than the other is tough.
Ummm... isn't David Simon Jewish?
saying 1 person was better than the other is tough
im saying bodie is better than the others
he didnt get enough face time this year tho
Everytime i see Bodie, i see Kenny from OZ stealing sneakers.
Quote from: Jerome99RIP on June 18, 2007, 01:29:08 PM
Ummm... isn't David Simon Jewish?
yea i think so. but he doesnt vote. and the show is anti-hollywood. not shot there, he uses random writers who dont write for tv, uses actors he pulls off the streets of bodymore, shtein like that. the industry dont like the show, thats why it doesnt go any love. plus its about scary black people.
Quote from: MDS on June 18, 2007, 01:43:23 PM
Quote from: Jerome99RIP on June 18, 2007, 01:29:08 PM
Ummm... isn't David Simon Jewish?
yea i think so. but he doesnt vote. and the show is anti-hollywood. not shot there, he uses random writers who dont write for tv, uses actors he pulls off the streets of bodymore, shtein like that. the industry dont like the show, thats why it doesnt go any love. plus its about scary black people.
He uses mostly actors in the area, i said it before. My brothers friend is doing a little acting, he was in a few episodes but they cut him out. He said it was amazing being on set in the real B More, where there were shots fired for real 2 blocks over.
bodymore, murderland
harm city yo
hampsterdam
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Bunny Colvin is joining the cast of Prison Break. I assume this is after The Wire films it's season (they are doing so now, PB starts filming in a month or so)
QuoteI spoke to Andre Royo at the Entourage premiere and after some friendly needling, he coughed up this spoiler about The Wire's fifth and final season, now shooting in Baltimore: "It's not the last you'll see of the Barksdale family."
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Word.
a barksdale stanfield war would be incredible
wonder what slim charles would do
i also hope wee bey gets a lot of run this year...hes my man
oh on the a&e re runs of the sopranos the other ngiht they had the episode where jackie jr gets killed and the guy hes hiding out in the pj's with is omar
omar is the coolest motherfarger in the history of television. i swear if he winds up dead im gonna kill david simon myself.
Quote from: ice grillin you on June 20, 2007, 12:26:31 PM
oh on the a&e re runs of the sopranos the other ngiht they had the episode where jackie jr gets killed and the guy hes hiding out in the pj's with is omar
yep. bodie played a small role too. might even have been season one, before christopher was even made, him and his buddy rob some tractor trailer and bodie was the guy who gets shot.
omar is the coolest motherfarger in the history of television. i swear if he winds up dead im gonna kill david simon myself.
me too...hes insanely good
omar and bodie are the goats of that show
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=20G17K_0ghU
brother mouzone gotta comeback. he hasnt been seen since he and omar took out stringer.
Quote from: MDS on June 20, 2007, 01:18:26 PM
brother mouzone gotta comeback. he hasnt been seen since he and omar took out stringer.
yeah he does, i was just reading about he Black Mafia and he was the first person to come to mind
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Snoop has a penis.
i live ten minutes from that soundstage...i shoulda went
that cake is awesome
Tickets ran $150 a piece, but getting to meet the cast and bid on some memorabilia and what not would probably make it worth it. Also the fact that all the money went to charity helps.
yeah me and my girl def would have done it for the charity aspect...we also both love the show...but we didnt hear anything about it until after it happened
theyve been running that shtein every year as far as i know.
when the hell is january?
finally got season one disc one in the mail. gonna watch some tomorrow with my woman
I also took the plunge, found season 1 new on Amazon for $29...now I wait.
Good stuff.
Quote from: MDS on June 20, 2007, 12:17:39 PM
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Word.
Isn't that the guy from Remember the Titans? I couldn't tell watching the Saprano rerun. I might have to rent a few disks from blockbuster.
watched disc 1 lastnight, its like New Jack City meets Law & Order. Anyway, I woke up this morning and wanted to watch more, meaning I'm most likely hooked.
you watched the set up...which is great but around episode 6 is when the show really gets in a groove leading up to episode 10 and 11 which is as good as tv has ever gotten
So far (3 episodes) I like the Avon Barksdale character the most. He comes at you from a lot of different angles, he's a big time drug dealer and the nephew of the king pin. He's intelligent but prone to mistakes, yet he has a soft side which was exploited when he wrote that letter to who he thought was Gants kids.
Best scene of the first 3 episodes was when the cops were getting pelted with bottles and TV sets when they decided to go to the Terrace drunk at 2 AM.
I'm gonna try to finish season 1 off by Monday, I already have season 2 in my bb queue.
you mean deangelo...and yes his character is so good...the torn soul thing is pulled off beautifully by the creator david simon
Yeah Deangelo, I couldn't figure out where the Avon nickname came from. I thought maybe from his days as a golden gloves.
Quote from: SD_Eagle on July 13, 2007, 09:34:17 AM
Yeah Deangelo, I couldn't figure out where the Avon nickname came from. I thought maybe from his days as a golden gloves.
Avon is his uncle the Kingpin.
Quote from: Seabiscuit36 on July 13, 2007, 09:38:14 AM
Quote from: SD_Eagle on July 13, 2007, 09:34:17 AM
Yeah Deangelo, I couldn't figure out where the Avon nickname came from. I thought maybe from his days as a golden gloves.
Avon is his uncle the Kingpin.
I'm an idiot.
season 5 of the wire in "early" 2008. meaning some point in january. hbo doesnt give a shtein about it, but whatever, 10 episodes to go.
Quote from: SD_Eagle on July 13, 2007, 09:26:04 AM
So far (3 episodes) I like the Avon Barksdale character the most. He comes at you from a lot of different angles, he's a big time drug dealer and the nephew of the king pin. He's intelligent but prone to mistakes, yet he has a soft side which was exploited when he wrote that letter to who he thought was Gants kids.
Best scene of the first 3 episodes was when the cops were getting pelted with bottles and TV sets when they decided to go to the Terrace drunk at 2 AM.
I'm gonna try to finish season 1 off by Monday, I already have season 2 in my bb queue.
as everyone has said, its just getting going. you really havent met omar yet, who is the best character ever in the history of tv.
not to spoil sd, but what is everyones favorite episode (to the 4 people who watch it)? common answer is end of season 3 where
stringer dies. mine might be the 3rd episode of season 4, where it ends with the one girl cutting the other girls face in the classroom. just insane.
Quote from: SD_Eagle on July 13, 2007, 09:26:04 AMbla bla bla
We are on exactly the same pace. I'm about to watch the third episode tonight. I like it very much, agree with others who have said that it's the best thing I've ever seen on television. I look forward to following it through, but it's really just a high class soap opera, which benefits by weak competition. It's worth my time in a field of shtein that isn't worth my time....to be the best that television has to offer doesn't mean it's the greatest shtein ever.
I'm up to episode 8, had little to do today besides laying by the pool and drinking beer so I got caught up.
Quote from: MDS on July 13, 2007, 07:00:07 PM
as everyone has said, its just getting going. you really havent met omar yet, who is the best character ever in the history of tv.
You mean Omar the pyschotic queer/snitch? Didn't see that coming. I can't believe he lasts that long.
he was supposed to die but his character is so farging awesome simon couldnt kill him.
stop snitchin mds...let these people watch it
well done
Quote from: ice grillin you on July 13, 2007, 08:02:43 PM
stop snitchin mds...let these people watch it
what, omar doesnt die? massive spoiler.
speaking of stop snitchin
baltimore murder witness gunned down
http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/local/baltimore_county/bal-te.co.witness14jul14,0,1091530.story?coll=bal-home-headlines
Randy is a Snitch.
MDS i'm with you on that one being my favorite episode muthafarga
i'll have to agree that omar is one of the best characters ever.
I have now seen first three episodes, and re-watched the first one with commentary. Now I'm going to watch episode two and three with commentary, then get this disc back in the mail so I can see the next three.
I vaguely understand that Omar is the dude in the third episode who knocks over the Barksdale stash house in the low rises, and that his character turns into something more like a super hero of sorts later on..I seem to remember my brother telling me somthing about "they kill his gay lover, he goes nuts and walks around wearing a long black coat and carrying guns openly, killing dealers and generally being a bad motherfarger."
I wish I hadn't heard all that now.
Oh well. Good show.
Correction. Superb show that is in a league of its own.
I stand corrected..it's so much better than all it's zesty peers, you can actually say it's teevee and it's not shtein
but its not really tv...its like watching a 13 hour movie
i also have watched all the episodes with commentary..they are excellent but i wish every episode came with them
Quote from: ice grillin you on July 16, 2007, 10:58:20 PMi also have watched all the episodes with commentary..they are excellent but i wish every episode came with them
I thought they did when I posted yesterday...unfortunately only the pilot and the second episode had comments. The third episode did not.
Emmy nominations:
According to Jim- 1
The Wire- 0
http://blogs.guardian.co.uk/tv/2007/07/the_wire_is_unmissable_televis.html
some really good writer waxes poetic about the top 9 reasons to watch the wire. the first 8 are terrific, then 9 is a bigger letdown than finding out igy was just some fat white dude.
9. The Wire is a guaranteed way to win friends and influence people. Evangelistically recommend it to complete strangers and it's a cast-iron guarantee they'll become your lifelong disciples. Just don't go lending out your DVD box sets. Anyone who borrows it will want to hang on to it as much as you'll be longing for its return.
i lent season 1 box to sun and not only did he not keep it he gave it back to me without watching it...yet hes on a mission for a random episode of something called dexter...go figure
btw is unmissable a word??
dexter is a great show, igy. certainly not as good as the wire, but still one of the better things out there.
Finished up season 1, the last 2 episodes were really well done. Some of the things I like about this show is the setting and characters are as believable as you could hope for. No character is too over the top. The show does a great job of subtle foreshadowing. First 3 discs of season 2 came in the mail the other day so I'll be checking them out as soon as I get the time.
season 2 of the wire is the worst. igy loves it because it has the most white people in it out of all the seasons.
still, season 2 of the wire > season 1 of the sopranos
I'm on a slower track..season one episodes four and five just arrived today. Now I know what I'm doing tonight.
Quote from: MDS on July 24, 2007, 05:41:31 PM
season 2 of the wire is the worst. igy loves it because it has the most white people in it out of all the seasons.
still, season 2 of the wire > season 1 of the sopranos
So far its really boring, I had to force myself to stay awake during the first episode...second one wasn't much better. The whole Port Authority thing is crap compared to any time a Barksdale is on the screen.
That's part of the problem. Season 1 is so incredible and you become so attached to these characters, that the completely different story line in season 2 is a huge downer. The story does pick up steam, and eventually everything comes full circle with the other characters and they get involved. Just hang with it, it turns out to be great.
you guys are all Romes and i might never watch it just to spite you
it pains me that you, some idiot i talk to on a message board, will not watch a tv show that i enjoy. pain.
how much does it bother you that you meant to type that as sarcasm but it rang true to your core?
i immediately put on "let my love open the door" by pete townshed on itunes and sat and thought about what you meant to me, realizing that without your acceptance and validation, i am nothing.
Quote from: SunMo on July 24, 2007, 07:08:36 PM...just to spite you
ha. I would never do or not do anything on account of you.
that's already not true
because I respond to your posts?
I respond to a lot of you idiots.
go on, spite me.
season 2 of the wire is the worst. igy loves it because it has the most white people in it out of all the seasons.
it can be the worst (im not sure it is...it goes 4-1-2-3 or 4-1-3-2) and still be amazing...which it is...you just dont like levy gettin mad face time in 2...stereotypical corrupt jew lawyer setting your tribe back a 1000 years
Quotestill, season 2 of the wire > season 1 of the sopranos
i know, son, i know.
mo levy is actually rather annoying. one of my favorite lines is season 4 when dragon lady sees namond not in school and asks "is it one of them jew holidays again." i just lost it,
omg i know that was so hilarious
nice try, jimmy.
remember that one time...when the suburban family was going the ball game and they made the wrong turn and they got carjacked and then the gang of afrojew hoodlums ran a train on the mom in front of the horrified kids? that was sweet.
mo levy is actually rather annoying
levy is a perfect example of why the show is so farging good...hes not in it a ton but he is perfectly cast and just hits every single one of his scenes out of the park...its amazing how many actors are like that in the show...how the wire hasnt won any casting emmys is unfathomable
you cant cast so many black people and expect to win. white people are racist.
Quote from: MDS on July 24, 2007, 09:04:06 PM
white people all people are racist.
there you go
you cant cast so many black people and expect to win. white people are racist.
somehow you always say what im thinking
Quote from: SunMo on July 24, 2007, 09:07:11 PM
Quote from: MDS on July 24, 2007, 09:04:06 PM
white people all people are racist.
there you go
irrelevant. they have the power, so it's their racism which counts. when the scales tip, I'll bitch about the stillupfronts
power is relative
blacks can be racist. theyve been shtein on since white people came to africa and forced them into slavery.
hispanics and asians have difficult socioeconomic boundries to overcome to make in society, and still have to deal with white people stereotyping them.
white people have no business being racist. they just are because they suck.
Quote from: SD_Eagle on July 24, 2007, 07:00:12 PM
So far its really boring, I had to force myself to stay awake during the first episode...second one wasn't much better. The whole Port Authority thing is crap compared to any time a Barksdale is on the screen.
I felt that way too after the first disc but it gets a lot better.
i dont think its boring i just think people arent used to the way simon writes which is to spend much more time on character and plot development than 99% of tv shows
you may not think its interesting but its great how much time he spends the way the ports work and the way cargo gets processed thru them...also the behind the scenes political battles that go on in the city...great stuff imo but def not for everyone
Quote from: MDS on July 24, 2007, 09:24:02 PM
blacks can be racist. theyve been shtein on since white people came to africa and forced them into slavery.
hispanics and asians have difficult socioeconomic boundries to overcome to make in society, and still have to deal with white people stereotyping them.
white people have no business being racist. they just are because they suck.
I guess MLK's dream truly died with him, eh?
After a slow start season 2 really picked up. Stringer is filthy. Sucks they killed off one of the best characters on the show.
not reading not reading not reading
Quote from: Diomedes on July 31, 2007, 08:50:29 PM
not reading not reading not reading
I'm courteous unlike the jew
I've still only got through the first five episodes. My old lady has been out of town a week and I can't send them back until she watches, which means I can't get the next disc until she watches, etc.
god youre a bitch
if being considerate means bitch then yeah, I'm a bitch.
it does, and you are
so be it.
I'm doing the 3 disc plan until I get caught up. As mentioned earlier (but I'll reiterate) the first 5 to 6 episodes is mostly the setup for the show. Last two episodes are really well done. I'm in the middle of season 2 right now and its just as good if not better than season 1 (so far).
Done with season 2, not quite as good as the first season but still enjoyable. I noticed 2 was in 2003 and 4 was in 2006, so I guess they took a year off? BBonline is saying its a long wait for season 3 so I might take my chances going into the store. Anyone know when season 4 is due out on DVD and when does season 5 start?
edit: just checked my queue and season 3 is in the mail
season 4 dvd should be out a lil before season 5, so like thanksgving/christmas time
Bunk sums it up
QuoteI think the Emmy voters are all about voting for their show and not others. I just think what those kids did last season was some of the best acting and writing I've ever seen. We're not in Hollywood and there's also the politics of competition. I think the Emmy voter says, "Boy, that was a great episode of "The Wire," now let me vote for "House." Then the racial makeup of the show proves that actors of color are not given the same credence. They look at characters like Omar, and they don't see the humanity. I tell poeple that this issue is at the core of whether or not we are going to grow as a society. It's not overt racism, but the fact that you can look at a character like Omar, make a passing judgment, and not see his humanity is sad.
like ice cube said 16 years ago "the kkk has got three piece suits"
and lol @ I think the Emmy voter says, "Boy, that was a great episode of "The Wire," now let me vote for "House."
i doubt they even watch it. white america rules.
I'm starting to see where all the Omar love comes from. Omar > Brother Mouzone (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m5Pb8MHIy2s)
Belzer character Munches more scenery
Richard Belzer made a little TV history when he filmed an episode of HBO's The Wire as Detective John Munch. His guest appearance on the gritty drama marks the 10th series to include the Munch character, who was created for NBC's Homicide: Life on the Street in 1993, and reunites him with David Simon, who is behind both series. Munch, the wisecracking, oft-married curmudgeon, was "transferred" to NBC's Law & Order: Special Victims Unit and has appeared on the original Law & Order and Law & Order: Trial By Jury, as well as episodes of The Simpsons, Arrested Development, The Beat, The X-Files and even Sesame Street. Belzer will be back as Munch on SVU's ninth season this fall. The Wire returns for Season 5 in early 2008.
Homicide >>>> The Wire
watch one episode of the wire and you will realize the ridiculousness of that statement
thats pretty cool that Belzer takes his character to taht many different shows
i actually hope its just a cameo and hes playing himself...like hes gonna be richard belzer from the show homocide...not the character munch
to me the best thing about the wire is that it plays like a documentary with the unknown cast being seemingly real people from baltimore....to introduce a well known pop culture fictional character plays against everything the wire is about imo..and frankly doesnt seem like a simonesque move
i think since Simon seems to be boys with Belzer and Belzer may have approached Simon thats the reason. Either way Belzer/Munch never take over scenes on any shows i've seen. He's a very good secondary or further character.
oh no, by including such an incredibly popular actor like richard belzer, the wire has gone too hollywood for the likes of igy. boooooo.
not to hollywood....just anti wire...it doesnt fit the show at all...the show was built off of characters played by actors that were unknown and so good that your belief that there were actually playing a role was suspended
Quote from: ice grillin you on August 08, 2007, 01:45:16 PM
not to hollywood....just anti wire...it doesnt fit the show at all...the show was built off of characters played by actors that were unknown and so good that your belief that there were actually playing a role was suspended
Except for the fact that they were tiny people inside an electrical box.
pretty cool stuff...
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/08/09/us/09baltimore.html?ex=1187323200&en=6ff91cea148c50cf&ei=5070&emc=eta1
Quote from: ice grillin you on August 10, 2007, 10:22:11 AM
pretty cool stuff...
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/08/09/us/09baltimore.html?ex=1187323200&en=6ff91cea148c50cf&ei=5070&emc=eta1
Thats pretty cool. The Corner was definitely treated the same as the Wire.
Never new Omar was based (even loosely) off a real person.
read the book homocide and/or watch the wire episodes that come with commentary and youll find out most of the characters and many of the scenes from the show are based on true people and events
will you stop spelling it like that
i need to read homocide. uncle igy give it to me.
tonyromocide
my co worker has it now...when hes done ill send it to you if you want...better come back the way i give it out or we will be getting rid of two dead jews
i promise gem mint ten condition.
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Predictions are that The Wire Season 5 will begin in February 2008. Most likely the week after the superbowl, which is Feb. 10.
Also, DVD box art for Season 4, which will probably come out around Hannukah and Kwanza:
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dirsty ass triflin dookie
QuoteSimon stated at the Night at the Wire event on June 9, 2007 that Detective Sydnor is the only character who remains morally clean at the end of the show, but not perfectly since "after all, this is The Wire". Simon also made references towards a possible run by Mayor Carcetti for governor, continuing to mirror current Maryland Governor and former Baltimore Mayor Martin O'Malley. On that night, fans were allowed to tour the Baltimore Sun newsroom the show had constructed, as a main setting for Season 5 will be the media, and a main theme will be homelessness. It has been rumored that in Season 5 of The Wire, Homicide stars Richard Belzer[30] and Clark Johnson[31] will guest star. Johnson specifically is rumored to play the city editor of Baltimore's daily newspaper.
Quote from: MDS on August 19, 2007, 02:51:33 PM
Predictions are that The Wire Season 5 will begin in February 2008. Most likely the week after the superbowl, which is Feb. 10.
Also, DVD box art for Season 4, which will probably come out around Hannukah and Kwanza:
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Nice. I'm roughly 2/3 through season 3. I don't want to see any spoilers but its to my understanding that season 4 revolves around 4 teenagers. Are they new characters or part of Marlo's group or from the Barksdale side?
All 4 are connected to the major gang story lines in one way or another. That's all I'll say.
its basically a year in the life of four "random" kids growing up on the meanstreets of inner city usa...and how their enviroment effects them in very different ways...its utter brilliance and not a stretch at all to say the single best season of any show ever
Now you guys know what to get me for Christmas
mds doesnt celebrate that heathen holiday
Hanakkuh present from him Kwanza from you
thats better
my gramps
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I laughed a little.
This Hamsterdam shtein is great. WMD
Just finished the episode where Stringer tells Avon he had D killed. - one of the best up to this point. Not that season 2 with the Greek/Sobotka angle was bad but season 3 gets back to what made season 1 so great.
now that you know the wire characters you're going to start noticing them in every drama tv show or movie for the rest of your life. they are everywhere. commissioner rawls is in a ton of shtein, and omar is popping up other places too.
now:
daniels is on lost
colvin is on prison break
Quote from: MDS on August 22, 2007, 02:04:18 PM
now:
daniels is on lost
He is?
Ha at Rawls being a polesmoker
Yea he's playing some "intimidating corporate-recruiter."
The Rawls thing was terrific how they just dropped that. John Doman is really quite good in that role.
how do i not remember this.
because you creamed your pants at the very thought of a seemingly regular guy being a fag, which almost triggered some kind of memory loss due to your years of sucking dick?
ha^^^^
Damn disk was farged for the second to last episode - so I had to rewind and forward it 4 or 5 times to see what happened to Stringer once Omar and Brother Mazoun chased him through the building. It skipped to him being shot and kept skipping over Omar saying "your boy gave you up".
seriously, i don't remember rawls being a homo. what happened?
Quote from: phattymatty on August 22, 2007, 03:56:47 PM
seriously, i don't remember rawls being a homo. what happened?
He was in a gay bar, kind of in the Vito sense
Quote from: phattymatty on August 22, 2007, 03:56:47 PM
seriously, i don't remember rawls being a homo. what happened?
Season 3 Brother Mazoun sends his guy into a gay bar looking for Omar, he shoves and says something to some gay guy and walks out, as the gay dude goes forward you see Rawls sitting at a table taking a sip from his drink. It was quick and I hit rewind just to make sure I saw what I did.
Quote from: MDS on August 22, 2007, 03:41:06 PM
The Rawls thing was terrific how they just dropped that. John Doman is really quite good in that role.
you probably missed it matty cause it literally lasted about five seconds and they never went back to it
doman is better than quite good...he farging fantastic...his scenes in season one where hes going off on mcnulty for farging up all the time are as good as it gets...as is the scene after greggs gets shot and mcnulty is blaming himself and no matter how much rawls hates mcnulty he still goes and tells him that its not his fault and he needs to buck up
ah, i do remember now. it's been a while since i saw season 3.
Any reason why every crappy show on HBO is on demand except the wire?
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I randomly have Showtime on demand, not HBO on demand. farg you all.
Quote from: ice grillin you on August 22, 2007, 10:26:11 PM
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ha, what I figured.
they even have jfc on demand and that shows been cancelled
'We're Tired of Seeing the Yellow Tape'
After Brother's Slaying in Northwest, 'The Wire' Actor Makes Plea Against Retaliation
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/08/24/AR2007082402132.html
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stop snitchin slim
Bubbles on season 5: http://tv.ign.com/articles/815/815634p1.html
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dont hit the above link if you havent seen the first four seasons....spoilers aplenty
heart wrenching article on the ending of the greatest show there ever was
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/09/02/AR2007090201454.html?nav=hcmodule
spoilers?
answer my question if you want me to click the link bitch
I didn't notice any, Dio.
Although to be fair even if there were spoilers I'd probably say there aren't just to be an icehole.
in that case I'll skip the heart wrenching tear jerker
Quote from: Diomedes on September 03, 2007, 09:30:08 AM
spoilers?
None that I saw. Sucks its coming to an end just when I started to become a fan.
if there were spoilers i would have noted it bitch
forgive me if I don't count on you for anything
fair enough
and i forgive you for ignoring the 100 times in this thread that ive warned people about spoilers
deal?
well I read it now and i wept like a vigy
yea that is a tough article. what a great farging show.
it said that season 5 begins in early jan, but the peoples before said it was early feb. so who knows.
she gave an exact date...jan 6...as opposed to "early january"...and since she was on set for that last taping im sure she got the date direct from simon or one of the directors....i suppose hbo could push it back tho
jan 6 makes more sense. itll air through the football playoffs, superbowl, grammys and oscars. its essentially a burnoff of a show they never gave a shtein about.
I bought season 1...haven't started watching it yet.
you're in for a real treat.
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on September 03, 2007, 06:43:54 PM
I bought season 1...haven't started watching it yet.
Way down in the hole (http://youtube.com/watch?v=ou30NabS_uM) - best version of this song and opening of the 3 seasons I watched
Just got season one dvd set for my birthday from my old lady, making this only the fifth DVD title I own. Which is to say, props to The Wire for making something worth owning.
Quote from: SD_Eagle on September 04, 2007, 12:52:03 PM
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on September 03, 2007, 06:43:54 PM
I bought season 1...haven't started watching it yet.
Way down in the hole (http://youtube.com/watch?v=ou30NabS_uM) - best version of this song and opening of the 3 seasons I watched
1, 3, 4, 2.
99% sure season 5 is in early january. say it aint so.
HBO's website says they're re-airing season 4 sometime this month - only they don't give an exact time and I can't find it on the program guide.
Season 5 will be On Demand a week before it airs on HBO, just like last year.
Any word on if season 4 is gonna be ondemand any time soon? I checked the website and there's nothing.
Probably before season 5 airs. DVD will be out round then, too. You can always download season 4 on the torrent sites.
doesnt hbo always replay the previous season leading up to the new one
http://www.citypaper.com/bob/story.asp?id=14532
David Simon is god.
Quote from: SD_Eagle on September 22, 2007, 09:26:13 AM
Quote from: Diomedes on September 22, 2007, 09:17:08 AM
Also watched like ten episodes of The Wire, but this thread isn't for television shows which are better than movies. It's for movies.
Are you still on season 1?
Nope, five episodes into season two now. I got both season one and two for my birthday, we watched a bunch on our honeymoon. What a great show. The fat white sargeant--I forget his name--cracks me up to no end. What a great actor.
jay landsman....he is superb but i like rawls even better...i said this before but his back and forth with mcnulty in season one is as good as it gets in tv
its what makes the wire the goat....every single person in an ensemble of about 15 is 100% on point
it's rare to get one good actor playing a good character...here you've got 'em by the handful, like it's nothing
Jay Landsman is the name of a real cop/detective that Simon met while doing research, and that spawned this character.
The real-life Jay Landsman played a few small roles and now has a recurring role as Detective Dennis Mello.
This dude = the real Jay Landsman:
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Jay Landsman is the name of a real cop/detective that Simon met while doing research, and that spawned this character.
he met him back in the 80's when he was the police beat writer for the baltimore sun...landsman is all over simons homocide book
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QFQVSvG5x54 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QFQVSvG5x54)
Gettin' wet just thinkin' about it.
holy shtein that promo is money
and mcnulty is drinking again...ha
once again its on
I love how HBO is burying this show against the NFL Playoffs/Superbowl.
why do you care....i like that no one knows about it...the real tv critics know its the best show of all time....thats good enough for me
Cause I'll be focused on an Eagles playoff run and getting immersed in the brilliance of The Wire will be second priority. Go team!
good point...i should have known a simpleton like you would be unable to focus on two things at once
Yea I know, it's always been my dream to grow and be a government worker.
I saw 300 in the theater prior to ever watching one episode of the Wire, I'm rewatching it on DVD and can't place the actor when it hits me its Dominic West aka Mcnulty. Funny as shtein seeing him in this role as opposed to the drunken cop he nails flawlessly on the Wire.
Season 1 is OnDemand
sun has been demanding it from me for months
season one has been on my ondemand for a while. i need season 4. when the f is it coming to either ondemand or dvd?
dvd first week in december, on demand around that time too
QuoteA lot of those who did were major fans of "The Wire," including the brother of Wendell Pierce who plays "Bunk" on the series. I got to joke about how Pierce once called me at the Chronicle to say thanks for all the support and I got to tell other "Wire" fans at the Chronicle, "Dude, check it out, it's Bunk." Can't mistake that voice. Also, reliable sources at HBO who have seen the next season, coming in January, say it's phenomenal. And that's not smoke - because the show doesn't need to be hyped anymore (this is the last season, the legacy is finished) but also because they've told me before quite honestly when something on the channel really stinks. As an aside, there's a good core at HBO. I know a lot of people want to count out the channel (and it certainly has had some missteps) but don't be surprised if, come January, HBO makes a huge comeback.
From Tim Goodman of the SF Chronicle, one of the best TV critics out there.
season 1 on demand in HD?
they didnt even shoot season 4 in hd, so no.
not interested then
farging elitist
I can see how you would need HD for a character and plot driven show.
just finished season two. gonna order three shortly. echoing what some of you other stillupfront's moms have said, second season wasn't as good as first but still better than anything else ever made for television
the greek from season two is in michael clayton...playing the same type character but not russian
just a heads up...
melvin williams aka the deacon on the show and also the inspiration for avon barksdale is the subject of this show tonight at 10pm on bet....
preview....
MELVIN WILLIAMS
Rap Sheet
Reign: 1960s and 70s.
Business: Heroin
Region: Baltimore, MD
Claim to Fame: He's part of the inspiration for "The Wire."
Downfall: framed by police.
Sentence: 26.5 years
Status: served his time, lives in Baltimore
Lesson: Keep your enemies close, but not close enough to drop drugs in your pocket.
Case File
Before he was old enough to shave, "Little Melvin" Williams possessed a genius I.Q. and was a prodigy in the gambling haunts and alleyways along glittering Pennsylvania Avenue. When heroin addiction exploded in the 1960's, Mafia drug traffickers sought out connections in big cities that were accustomed to dealing in large sums of cash and were smart enough to keep their mouths shut. In Baltimore - home to more heroin users than any other big American town – they needed to look no further than to Melvin, known in street lore today as "the man who brought heroin to Baltimore." For three decades Melvin ruled as the uncrowned king of West Baltimore. Frustrated with their inability to penetrate his operation, Baltimore police framed him - planting a hand full of pills in his pocket during an orchestrated bust. Five years later, Melvin emerged from prison a bitter man out for revenge. He accomplished his mission – accumulating untold millions in narco-profits – but ultimately paid the price by serving 26.5 years in prison. His exploits helped inspire the hit series "The Wire." On this episode of 'American Gangster' he tells his story, his way.
american gangster last night was so cheesy
this is not....
a must read
however its from a grown up magazine and is VERY long so if youre not a strong reader dont click
http://www.newyorker.com/reporting/2007/10/22/071022fa_fact_talbot
omar is in gone baby gone. not a main character buts gets about 10 min. of face time.
its gonna be great to see all the people from that show who literally were pulled off the street get actual careers from it....
Quote from: ice grillin you on October 18, 2007, 08:45:24 AM
however its from a grown up magazine and is VERY long so if youre not a strong reader dont click
http://www.newyorker.com/reporting/2007/10/22/071022fa_fact_talbot
that is printed and ready for my next bathroom break.
yea ive been meaning to print that out, but i dont have a printer with ink. poor jews, never can catch a break.
Quote from: phattymatty on October 18, 2007, 08:58:16 AM
Quote from: ice grillin you on October 18, 2007, 08:45:24 AM
however its from a grown up magazine and is VERY long so if youre not a strong reader dont click
http://www.newyorker.com/reporting/2007/10/22/071022fa_fact_talbot
that is printed and ready for my next bathroom break.
exactly what i did with it yesterday
Quote from: ice grillin you on October 18, 2007, 08:45:24 AM
american gangster last night was so cheesy
this is not....
a must read
however its from a grown up magazine and is VERY long so if youre not a strong reader dont click
http://www.newyorker.com/reporting/2007/10/22/071022fa_fact_talbot
It's also got spoilers
--Prez becomes a teacher!?!--so farg you for the no warning link, dickbreath.
its a 13 page new yorker essay and you didnt think it might have a spoiler or two?
whiny white people need to stop the talk talk
small season 5 preview
http://youtube.com/watch?v=q24T3-GRIsQ
oooo look at all the scary black people
Quote from: ice grillin you on October 30, 2007, 10:18:19 AM
small season 5 preview
http://youtube.com/watch?v=q24T3-GRIsQ
Nice.
Season 2 is now ondemand
Season 4 DVD special features:
An exclusive two-part documentary – "It's All Connected: The Wire," featuring candid interviews with cast and crew discussing life in the city of Baltimore as depicted on the series, and "The Game is Real: The Wire," a retrospective on the issues explored in past seasons
Six audio commentaries with cast and crew:
– Episode 1: David Simon (Creator/Executive Producer) and Ed Burns (Producer)
– Episode 4: Actor Jim True-Frost (Prez), Karen Thorson (Producer) and Kate Sanford (Editor)
– Episode 6: Dan Attias (Director) and William F. Zorzi (Writer)
– Episode 11: Actors Robert Chew (Proposition Joe), Julito McCullum (Namond Brice), Jermaine Crawford (Dukie Weems), Maestro Harrell (Randy Wagstaff) and Tristan Wilds (Michael Lee)
– Episode 12: Joe Chappelle (Co-executive Producer) and George Pelecanos (Writer)
– Episode 13: David Simon (Creator/Executive Producer) and Nina Noble (Executive Producer)
it's a shame i have all the episodes on my computer, otherwise id be all over that for jewish christmas.
they are releasing a cd with all the music from the wire
word.
http://journal.nonesuch.com/journal/2007/11/nonesuch-to-rel.html
thats awesome, there was some song back on season 2 that i've never heard anywhere else. I could never find the credits for it. This is a must buy now.
nonesuch is a good label
slim charles was on svu last night and he jumped into a garbage truck and died.
Officially set for a January 7 at 9 return. Will be followed by igy's other favorite show, Def Poetry Jam. HBO schedules it's two black people shows back to back. Hmmmm.
That means the first episode will pop up On Demand on the 31st and midnight. Which means that's when I'll watch it.
I thought you had all the episodes on your computer already?
way to spend New Years nerd
That means the first episode will pop up On Demand on the 31st and midnight. Which means that's when I'll watch it.
why does hbo only do this with the wire
They want to increase traffic to HBO on Demand. They did it with Tell me you Love me, too.
oh so they do it with other shows on the network
3 prequels:
http://www.amazon.com/Wire-Complete-Fourth-Season/dp/B000QXDJLI
add for docupromos airing soon
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EdjiGyV5-L0
Quote from: MDS on December 04, 2007, 10:15:44 AM
They want to increase traffic to HBO on Demand. They did it with Tell me you Love me, too.
Any set date when Season 4 will come ondemand? Right now it has season 3 till Dec. 10th so I'm figurinng around then.
Yes right after that would be a good guess
(http://img409.imageshack.us/img409/2803/wireseason5oi6.jpg)
http://youtube.com/watch?v=gPflEzVBSq0 - its all about the crown
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zIsYWcHbwLU - give the people...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EwhryZsvU6E - play or get played
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WVB-d7tWIII - let mcnulty be mcnulty
is there any doubt that this is the greatest show ever?
rhetorical questions are so cool
Quote from: MDS on December 06, 2007, 06:08:28 PM
is there any doubt that this is the greatest show ever?
the marlo snippet >>>>> any other tv show
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6uMd2HCcQ_c - bubbles one step at a time
hbo sent the first seven episodes of the new season out to critics....the baltimore sun has a review out....it contains very minor spoilers...
http://www.baltimoresun.com/entertainment/tv/bal-to.wire06dec06,0,3266640.story
wire soundtrack tracklisting...
1. "This America, man." (0:24)
2. WAY DOWN IN THE HOLE – The Blind Boys of Alabama (2:54)
3. "Why would anyone ever wanna leave Baltimore?" (0:21)
4. OH MY GOD – Michael Franti & Spearhead (5:05)
5. DANCE MY PAIN AWAY – Rod Lee (2:07)
6. MY LIFE EXTRA - DJ Technics (1:17)
7. "The king stay the king." (0:48)
8. WAY DOWN IN THE HOLE – The Neville Brothers (1:36)
9. "We used to make **** in this country." (0:15)
10. SIXTEEN TONS – The Nighthawks (3:36)
11. ASSUME THE POSITION – Lafayette Gilchrist (2:42)
12. "What the **** did I do?" (0:12)
13. STEP BY STEP – Jesse Winchester (2:56)
14. I WALK ON GILDED SPLINTERS – Paul Weller (4:58)
15. FAST TRAIN – Solomon Burke (5:37)
16. THE BODY OF AN AMERICAN – The Pogues (4:45)
17. "All the pieces matter." (0:08)
18. EFUGE EFUGE – Stelios Kazantzidis (3:32)
19. "Omar comin'!" (0:40)
20. WAY DOWN IN THE HOLE - Domaje (1:43)
21. "If it's a lie, then we fight on that lie" (0:22)
22. PROJECTS – Tyree Colion (3:26)
23. "Later for that gangsta ********." (0:38)
24. AYO - Bossman (3:20)
25. ANALYZE - Sharpshooters (2:44)
26. "Wars end." (0:20)
27. UNFRIENDLY GAME – Masta Ace Feat. Stricklin (3:52)
28. WHAT YOU KNOW ABOUT BALTIMORE – Ogun Feat. Phathead (3:16)
29. JAIL FLICK - Diablo (3:38)
30. THE LIFE, THE HOOD, THE STREETZ - Mullyman (3:47)
31. "An act of daily journalism." (0:07)
32. I FEEL ALRIGHT – Steve Earle (2:58)
33. WAY DOWN IN THE HOLE – Tom Waits (1:45)
34. "You remember that one day summer past?" (0:41)
35. THE FALL – Blake Leyh (1:24)
Quote from: ice grillin you on December 07, 2007, 08:33:36 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6uMd2HCcQ_c - bubbles one step at a time
Such a great character.
I thought he was the guy that played Ozone in Breakin 2 when I first saw him
Season 4 is now ondemand until Jan 7.
some people still need to watch season one
you know who you are
what what
wire prequels
young omar - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w4ufKCHG0KI
when bunk met mcnulty - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQ-V0W1zsAs&NR=1
young prop joe - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b3nzDngAMXQ&NR=1
Quoteomg.......... my stillupfront's moms!
just started season 4 yesterday. i can already tell it's going to be good.
it's The Wire. of course it's going to be good
i just hope mcnulty isn't a bitch all season like he is so far in the first episode.
Quote from: phattymatty on December 13, 2007, 10:38:55 AM
i just hope mcnulty isn't a bitch all season like he is so far in the first episode.
I'm up to episode 7 and my only complaint thus far is there isn't enough McNulty.
Prez the teacher > Prez the cop
Carcetti reminds me of this icehole Lieutenant I worked for in the navy.
I like Brodie's character more in season 4 then I did the prior 3
brodie = bodie....him or omar have been my favorites since day one but i agree hes off the hook in season four
and mcnulty is not mcnulty for pretty much all of four...which is why one of the previews for the final season is this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WVB-d7tWIII
Quote from: ice grillin you on December 13, 2007, 05:14:19 PM
brodie = bodie....him or omar have been my favorites since day one but i agree hes off the hook in season four
and mcnulty is not mcnulty for pretty much all of four...which is why one of the previews for the final season is this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WVB-d7tWIII
bodie...yeah that's what I meant. I saw that Mcnulty preview and thank god he's not domesticated and Hoyda whipped in season 5.
ha...yeah def
Ever watch the Corner? Is it comparable to the wire or worth watching?
It's very good, but not as amazing of storylines. The Corner is more a sad drama about druggies.
the corner is pretty good if you have never seen the wire but it becomes unwatchable if you have
btw i just saw a promo for two wire specials on hbo...dec 20 and 21st i think...one is a look back at all the seasons via cast and crew interviews...didnt catch was the second one was
time magazines top 100 shows of all time
http://www.time.com/time/specials/2007/article/0,28804,1651341_1659202_1652752,00.html
Jacob Weinberg wrote: "No other program has ever done anything remotely like what this one does, namely to portray the social, political and economic life an American city with scope, observational precision and moral vision of great literature."
agreed until the "great literature" part. as great television as it is, it's still just teevee; no television is comparable to great literature
bah, they killed off
Bodie. Season 4 was as good as the prior seasons but when you get 3/4 the way through you slowly realize it's a big setup for season 5.
Quote from: ice grillin you on December 13, 2007, 08:20:38 PM
btw i just saw a promo for two wire specials on hbo...dec 20 and 21st i think...one is a look back at all the seasons via cast and crew interviews...didnt catch was the second one was
There are two behind the scenes episodes on demand. Any specific reason why season 5 is the last season?
simon had it all planned out from the beginning...it was never gonna be more than five seasons
i wont say easily because i dont wanna in any way denegrate the first three seasons but i think four is the goat season
im pissed that the new season is only ten episodes
hbo only wanted to pay for 10.
That blows, they should be making more episodes not less. Think I might be done with HBO once season 5 is over.
i like how namond is rockin the throwback 99 jersey in a lot of episodes. i'm loving season 4 so far, about halfway ythrough it.
I'm with you SD, HBO has done nothing but disappoint me with not renewing Deadwood, Rome, and now shortcutting The Wire. farg the brits
Flight of the Conchords is terrific. And Curb is still money. But that's 30 minutes every now and then. I wouldn't pay for unless you have igy money.
igy tried to cancel hbo after seaon four of the wire and comcast told igy that his cable bill would go UP if he did this
went to the home in the jewhood today and watched both wire promodocs on demand (they are the ones with 2007 as the year, igy, both like 28 mins long).
the first was a preview for season 5, showed some short scenes and stuff, but didnt give away all too much. kind of long and drawn out.
the second was a recap of the 4 seasons, complete with the actors talking about their favorite episodes and scenes and characters. this was mindless fun.
oh those are ondemand right now?...ill def watch the recap one tonight
i dont want even a the smallest of a spoiler for season 5 so ill probably skip that one
yea they are. they are produced by hbo and really dont give anything way, but do what you want.
Season 5 longer trailer: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O7HoWd7mY8E
Boner.
and now im fun havin baby...i need some one on one baby....
DONT DO IT!
Quote from: MDS on December 18, 2007, 01:18:51 PM
yea they are. they are produced by hbo and really dont give anything way, but do what you want.
Season 5 longer trailer: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O7HoWd7mY8E
Boner.
0:50 - I knew I saw Avon
yea thats him. i heard about that a ways back, no way they couldnt have a final season and not at least catch up with him in the pokey.
Sheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeit (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HrfCixsd2N8)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v630/brilljt/clayton-1.gif)
My new Avatar^^^^^^^
great avatar SD
the wire four season recap thing was really good
the one thing i noticed from the season 5 preview was that clark johnson appears to have knocked his character out of the park. but yet again they got a bunch of normal looking people to play these media parts instead of model-looking hollywood types.
just watched the premiere, its on hbo on demand.
setting things up obviously for the season, but its quite refreshing to watch an episode of the wire, seeing that its the goat.
the opening scene is farging great. they do an amazing job of introducing the paper storyline and picking up the major crimes, city hall and street and re-introducing us to all the characters (cept for Omar, he always comes a few episodes in)
i wont give anything else away as to what storylines are sort of dropped and which characters are out of main cast (im certain we'll see everyone who aint dead), but of course, this is the best show ever.
I been avoiding this thread because I love this show and can't stand even the tiniest spoiler.
Got season three for Christmas. Watched the first seven episodes in the last two days..I'm on a Wire binge.
What a great goddamned piece of work.
wait until you see season four dio...ive watched it three times and i still cant believe how good it is...definitely the best season
Quote from: MDS on December 31, 2007, 01:10:59 AM
just watched the premiere, its on hbo on demand.
No shtein? I checked at midnight figuring it might be on but no luck. Wound up watching the Bunk/McNulty - Prop Joe - and Omar prequel which were all incredible. Going to check it out now.
yeah i noticed last night that the premiere is available on my box too. popped a boner.
well watch it already you silly gooses,i cant keep these thoughts bottled up for much longer.
Quote from: MDS on December 31, 2007, 12:48:29 PM
well watch it already you silly gooses,i cant keep these thoughts bottled up for much longer.
Just finished, farging fantastic. I love the way they tie things from the last 4 seasons into this season. The Marlo/Prop Joe foreshadowing was brillant. I waited for that to develop in season 4.
i just finished season 4 yesterday. probably the best so far. i would rank them 4-1-2-3. 2 and 1 could probably flip flop though.
sucks that 5 is only 10 episodes though, what a rip.
Quote from: phattymatty on December 31, 2007, 01:49:45 PM
i just finished season 4 yesterday. probably the best so far. i would rank them 4-1-2-3. 2 and 1 could probably flip flop though.
sucks that 5 is only 10 episodes though, what a rip.
That does suck but not nearly as bad as this being the last season. I'd rank them 4-1-3-2
you didn't like 2? i think it took a little longer than normal to get good but by the end of it i thought it was great. easily better than 3 for me.
Quote from: phattymatty on December 31, 2007, 02:00:49 PM
you didn't like 2? i think it took a little longer than normal to get good but by the end of it i thought it was great. easily better than 3 for me.
I loved season 2 although it did start off slow and I hate that they killed off D, but the way season 3 ended and how it was the pivotal season where there was a turnover in power from
Barksdale/Bell to Marlo did it for me.
3 > 2 simply because of the 2nd to last episode where ___ and ___ shoot ____. unreal scene.
"Well ya gonna shoot me?" cap cap cap
Wow I watched the season 5 premiere this morning and it's farging great. You can already see everything coming full circle, I think this might be the best yet.
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My only complaint is that the new theme song is beat. Worst one by far.
farg, i have to wait until it comes out, no on demand on DTV.
Quote from: phattymatty on January 01, 2008, 02:18:14 PM
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My only complaint is that the new theme song is beat. Worst one by far.
They should have stuck with the original song from season 1 for all 5 seasons, the rock version of down in the hole is quite awful.
Anyone (mds?) know when the next episode comes on demand? Is there a schedule or some shtein, I just check periodically.
QuoteBeginning Dec. 31 with the season premiere, weekly episodes of THE WIRE will be available on HBO On Demand the Monday prior to its Sunday debut on the main HBO channel.
nice
Stringer Bell plays an Army General in 28 weeks later. You all care.
full version of season 5 theme:
http://undercoverblackman.vox.com/library/audio/6a00cd970f81104cd500e398acf7710005.html
it's done by steve earle, but clearly this is mediocre.
excellent mark bowden (philly inquirer, blackhawk down) article on simon and the show
http://www.theatlantic.com/doc/200801/bowden-wire
episode 2
http://www.gigasize.com/get.php?d=8qg211z6shf
do you have to register to get that? figures the 7 episodes given to critics would leak.
One last case to solve for detective on "The Wire" By Lewis Krauskopf
Tue Jan 1, 3:41 PM ET
Television critics have lavished praise on HBO's urban drama "The Wire," and the show has earned the prestigious Peabody Award. But one endorsement stands out above all for co-star Wendell Pierce.
Actual police detectives wiretapping telephone conversations on a real drug case noticed the chatter went dead during the show's hour-long broadcast, an officer once told the actor.
"The highest compliment came when a police officer told me on the set, 'They talk about you guys on the real wire,"' Pierce said in a recent Reuters interview.
Such rapt attention from the show's subjects underscores the authenticity of "The Wire," which melds crime drama with social commentary and returns on Sunday January 6 for its fifth and final season.
The series is far from a ratings hit, averaging roughly a fifth of the 8 million viewers who tuned in each Sunday for HBO's celebrated mob drama "The Sopranos" last season. But "The Wire" has consistently drawn critical raves, and its fans rank among U.S. television's most loyal and enthusiastic audience.
The Baltimore-based series will focus on the media this season, building on critical examinations in past years of the criminal justice system, politics and education.
"That same impact of the individual being lost in the institution and the moral ambiguity, all those same themes are placed in the newsroom," said Pierce, who plays Detective William "Bunk" Moreland, one of many signature characters in the sprawling, mostly black ensemble cast.
Pierce's cigar-chomping homicide detective provides regular comic relief to a show that can be bleak and heart wrenching.
Despite Bunk's personal flaws -- he is often a sloppy drunk chasing women -- no one questions his dedication to the job.
"For me, Bunk represents a real sense of steadfastness, pride in his work," Pierce said. "While everything else may be in turmoil around him, there's one thing that he knows: he's a good policeman."
AUTHENTIC BALTIMORE
Pierce, 44, who has acted for more than 20 years in theater, movies and television, researched his role by talking to Baltimore police officers and residents of neighborhoods the show is filmed in.
Their anecdotes about their communities helped shape his portrayal of Bunk, whose character is loosely based on a respected retired Baltimore detective of the same nickname.
"He represents metaphorically all those African-American police officers who became police because what was happening in their neighborhoods is not a reflection of their neighborhood," said Pierce, a New Orleans native.
"Those small few who have brought disproportionate amount of crime to those neighborhoods are the ones they're after. That's the reason they became police."
Series creator David Simon, who covered crime as a reporter for The Baltimore Sun newspaper, and collaborator Ed Burns, a former Baltimore detective and teacher, have drawn from their experiences to develop story lines and ensure authenticity.
The cast combines longtime performers like Pierce with novice actors who bring their real-world Baltimore experiences to the show. They range from a cameo by former Baltimore Mayor Kurt Schmoke as a city health commissioner to real-life ex-con Felicia "Snoop" Pearson, who plays a chilling assassin known as Snoop.
"I have never been on a show where it works," Pierce said. "The authenticity of the show kind of brought all those elements together, where you have actors being as authentic as possible, people who are of the world who have been there stepping up to the acting game."
Pierce has worked with film directors like Woody Allen, Spike Lee and Sidney Lumet but calls "The Wire" the "high-water mark of my career" and has been recognized as Bunk by fans as far away as Johannesburg, South Africa.
He just finished performing in a New Orleans run of "Waiting for Godot," is appearing next in a USA cable network series "In Plain Sight" and will narrate the Kings of the Crescent City jazz concert at Lincoln Center in January.
Pierce also said that he and "Wire" co-star Sonja Sohn approached HBO and Simon about a prequel movie to "The Wire," which would chart the rise of the fictional Barksdale crime family depicted in the first three seasons.
He said "The Wire" has demonstrated "the power of the artistry that television can have." But Pierce hopes the show has impact beyond television.
"I hope mainly that no one will see some black kid standing on a corner in some long, white tee and baggy pants and not just go to some immediate two-dimensional stereotype," he said. "At least they know that there's some humanity there."
http://thepiratebay.org/tor/3956182/The_Wire_season_5_episode_2
torrent file to the episode.
im gonna see what kind of quality this is, but 8 9 and 10 wont be leaked. im guessing the first 7 will at some point, so its gonna either be a long break in between episodes, or im gonna have to show some real self-restraint and simply not watch the episodes all at once. doubtful that happens.
i know two four and five are out there.....but havent seen three
i dont watch any of them on computer tho...not only is it ultra nerdy but why would you watch it on the computer when you can watch it on a 60 inch hi def tv?
is it in high def this year?
torrent to episode 2 seems legit. ill give it a watch in a few.
1,2,5,6,7 have been leaked. 3 and 4 are coming. 2 is legit and i assume the rest are as well. 8 9 and 10 arent coming.
episode 2 is really good. ending is sick, and there is something else that happens that i wont give away but its awesome.
no one cares that youve seen it...anyone here that wants to see already would have...so theres no need to say ANYTHING about any episode that hasnt been on regular hbo yet
I'm waiting until its out, more fun that way. And is this in HD this year? It had never been before?
yeah i have no desire to watch any of them online. i will watch them a week early on ondemand, but i wanna space it out and make it last longer.
Quote from: Seabiscuit36 on January 03, 2008, 09:10:20 AM
I'm waiting until its out, more fun that way. And is this in HD this year? It had never been before?
Same and I'm pretty sure it's not in HD this year. It's definitely not ondemand in HD
Quote from: phattymatty on January 03, 2008, 09:55:31 AM
yeah i have no desire to watch any of them online. i will watch them a week early on ondemand, but i wanna space it out and make it last longer.
yep...that and i like to watch every episode twice (at least)...once on demand and then the first run on regular hbo...that way to i feel like im enjoying the event with lots of people who havent seen it...makes it feel different somehow...plus why woudl you weatch it on computer when you can watch it on a big screen tv...btw its not in hd sb
what i wont do is utter a single word about any episode until the sunday nite hbo telecast...just in case someone doesnt have ondemand or chooses not to watch it on there
calm down, dookie. i didnt spoil anything. saying they were good and "things happen" isnt really much.
you Romes are farging ridiculous about this show...everybody calm the farg down
it's not as cool as online video games but it's still pretty cool.
Quote from: SunMo on January 03, 2008, 01:03:48 PM
you Romes are farging ridiculous about this show...everybody calm the farg down
Omar would totally pwn you in COD4
is it as cool as swinging a joystick and pretending to play tennis?
Quote from: Seabiscuit36 on January 03, 2008, 01:08:00 PM
Quote from: SunMo on January 03, 2008, 01:03:48 PM
you Romes are farging ridiculous about this show...everybody calm the farg down
Omar would totally pwn you in COD4
Mans gotta have a code
Quote from: MDS on January 03, 2008, 12:58:45 PM
calm down, dookie. i didnt spoil anything. saying they were good and "things happen" isnt really much.
i dont need to know that the "ending is sick"...i dont need to know anything about it...how bout in the future you just zip it until sunday at 10
Quote from: phattymatty on January 03, 2008, 09:55:31 AM
yeah i have no desire to watch any of them online. i will watch them a week early on ondemand, but i wanna space it out and make it last longer.
I think about baseball while watching it.
Quote from: ice grillin you on January 03, 2008, 01:21:26 PM
Quote from: MDS on January 03, 2008, 12:58:45 PM
calm down, dookie. i didnt spoil anything. saying they were good and "things happen" isnt really much.
i dont need to know that the "ending is sick"...i dont need to know anything about it...how bout in the future you just zip it until sunday at 10
then you are taking a television show entirely too seriously. and thats coming from me. so long as i dont say "such and such happens," it really doesnt matter. the ending is sick could be interpreted 1000 different ways.
apparently the leaks got shut down, so i guess ill be watching it the rest of the episodes in real time with you mongoloids.
Quote from: MDS on January 03, 2008, 01:24:48 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on January 03, 2008, 01:21:26 PM
Quote from: MDS on January 03, 2008, 12:58:45 PM
calm down, dookie. i didnt spoil anything. saying they were good and "things happen" isnt really much.
i dont need to know that the "ending is sick"...i dont need to know anything about it...how bout in the future you just zip it until sunday at 10
then you are taking a television show entirely too seriously.
theres no question i do....and feel free to rip me for it...just dont talk about what youve seen before ive seen it
alright, whatever you say, chief. but for the next 2 weeks i have ammo to kill your little wire boner, so you best not mess with the king.
you come at the king you best not miss
If and when I start watching this show it had better be the best farging thing I've ever seen. And possibly provide some unexpected sexual release.
i got my dad to watch it and he started with season 4 and said it is "neck and neck" with the sopranos in terms of quality. ban?
Quote from: rjs246 on January 03, 2008, 10:22:58 PM
If and when I start watching this show it had better be the best farging thing I've ever seen. And possibly provide some unexpected sexual release.
I wanted to hate it mostly because igy and mds were bustin nuts over it, but it really is one of the best shows ever on television.
Quote from: SD_Eagle on January 03, 2008, 11:44:32 PM
Quote from: rjs246 on January 03, 2008, 10:22:58 PM
If and when I start watching this show it had better be the best farging thing I've ever seen. And possibly provide some unexpected sexual release.
I wanted to hate it mostly because igy and mds were bustin nuts over it, but it really is one of the best shows ever on television.
:yay
black guys committing crimes...revolutionary
Quote from: SunMo on January 03, 2008, 11:51:38 PM
black guys committing crimes...revolutionary
It goes deeper than that, at first it seems like Law & Order meets New Jack City but the more you get into it the more you realize it's not your average cops and robbers show. The characters are as believable as any show ever made and you get a real sense of the problems of an inner city. Every season deals with a new angle and the plot is always fresh.
Quote from: MDS on January 03, 2008, 11:43:07 PM
i got my dad to watch it and he started with season 4 and said it is "neck and neck" with the sopranos in terms of quality. ban?
I never had HBO until recently but always wanted to watch the Sopranos since there was so much hype about it. I bb'd season 1 and was dissappointed. It wasn't horrible but I got bored with it. Season 2 came and I sent it back, I'm done.
The Wire >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The Sopranos
By a long shot
it's true, it's not even close.
lol @ comparing the sopranos to the wire....thats insulting
thats why i brought it up, mikey. the wire is so far away better than the sopranos, that calling them "neck and neck" should hypothetically result in a "banning."
Your erections are showing.
Mines bigger.
yeah but mine is circumsized
after the game ended tonight they went to the 11pm news teaser and the lead story was how the wire season premiere was in bmore tonight and "how it changed the city"...sean taylor type hyperbole but still good stuff since the worst episode of the wire is better than sean taylors whole life
i thought you didnt make jokes about dead people, mr. self-righteous hypocrite
i didnt and i still dont....i state facts...i dont make fun of people cept for the jews...
well you have good reason, jews are awful
lchaim
so under the code of mr. havas, it is safe to snitch about episode 1?
absolutely.....its sunday after 10 right?
however i dont wanna talk about any episode until my boy sun watches ep 1 season 1
white dudes from souderton watching a show about black people? ummmmmm
Quote from: MDS on January 07, 2008, 01:59:02 AM
white dudes from souderton watching a show about black people? ummmmmm
lolol
pretty much
i watched season 5 ep1 ...terrible
die. now.
David Simon truthin'
Quote"We have more working black actors in key roles than pretty much all the other shows on the air. And yet you still hear people claim they can't find good African-American actors. That's why race-neutral shows and movies turn out lily-white."
Quote"I don't give a f--- if we ever win one of their little trinkets [emmy's]," the creator of the acclaimed HBO drama tells Newsweek. "I don't care if they ever figure out we're here in Baltimore. Secretly, we all know we get more ink for being shut out. So at this point, we wanna be shut out. We wanna go down in flames together, holding hands all the way. It's fun. And it's a good way to go out—throwing them the finger from 3,000 miles away.
Good read: http://www.newsweek.com/id/84555
Also:
Wee Bay: http://www.sohh.com/articles/article.php/13366
Dookie: http://allhiphop.com/stories/lifestylefilm/archive/2008/01/06/19092151.aspx#TheWireHBO
Quote from: MDS on January 03, 2008, 12:00:45 AM
episode 2 is really good. ending is sick, and there is something else that happens that i wont give away but its awesome.
I didn't really like the ending except for Bunk's reaction, McNulty comes off like too much of a lunatic, clearly he's boozing too much and losing it, but doing what he did seemed out of character to me, best part of the episode is when Marlo visits Avon and when Michael has a reality check when they're going to knock off June bug.
simon = honorary brother gawd
*****MINIMAL SPOILER WARNING******
entertainment weeklys season review....
The Wire (The Wire (Season 5))
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BALTIMORE CRAVEN The less-than-honorable Mayor Tommy Carcetti (Aidan Gillen) in the fifth and final season of HBO's masterpiece The Wire
By Gillian Flynn
About the only good news in Baltimore is that test scores for third graders are up 15 points. This being The Wire, even that good news is tainted — last season's brutal foray into the city's school system made clear that those numbers are mere props for politicians. Everywhere else it's worse, especially among the underfunded police force: Overtime pay has vanished, cops take buses to crime scenes, the investigation into those 22 bodies sealed up in West Side houses last season has been suspended. Tommy Carcetti (Aidan Gillen) is dangerously close to being branded as ''just a weak-ass mayor of a broke-ass city.''
The fifth and final season of David Simon's peerlessly acted, stunningly scripted, revolutionary drama of 1,000 moving parts kicks off Jan. 6, and Baltimore is undergoing a changing of the guard — with the new generation even more unworthy than the last. Carcetti makes decisions not as a dutiful mayor, but as a gubernatorial hopeful. Drug dealer Marlo Stanfield (Jamie Hector) — the guy responsible for those 22 bodies — is consolidating power ruthlessly and without discipline. ''Marlo's an a--hole,'' snarls Det. Jimmy McNulty (Dominic West). ''He does not get to win, we get to win.'' McNulty's worthy adversary, semi-legit gangster Stringer Bell, has been killed, and here's the detective — back in Homicide, back on the sauce, trying to scrape up pocket change to nail punks like Marlo. He reeks of anger and disdain. And Jameson.
Bubs, Bunk, Omar — they all resurface too. If there's one problem with The Wire, it's that, five seasons in, too many beautifully realized characters fight for too little room — a gem of a complaint to have. Simon, a former Baltimore Sun reporter, has chosen to (dis)favor the media this round, and he's replicated a newsroom as desperately faulty as any of The Wire's other institutions. The Sun is also suffering from entitled upstarts: A budget crisis has management winnowing those with decent salaries — smarter, veteran reporters. Old-school city editor Gus (Homicide's Clark Johnson) finds himself saddled with the paper's callow new golden boy Scott Templeton (Year of the Dog's Tom McCarthy), a flimsy reporter as hollowly ambitious and shortsighted as Marlo.
From the police station to city hall to the newspapers to the street, it's clear nobody will get a ''New Day in Baltimore.'' Everyone seems only more stuck in his or her own intertwined, culpable role. Episode 7 ends with cop Kima (Sonja Sohn) holding her son at a windowsill, as they say goodnight to the moon — and the ''po-po...hoppers...hustlers...scammers'' of Baltimore. The triumph of The Wire is that, as Kima whispers these words, they don't sound cynical. They sound like a benediction for this yelping creation of David Simon, and a good wish for the hard struggle of cities. A
that one highlited line is so true....every character and theres been a ton that has shown up on this show has been perfect in every way...whether its mcnulty...or orlando...frank or ziggy sobotka...brother mouzone or the kids in season four...everyone nails their part to a tee every time..
finally caught up with the first episode. Love the start with the lie detector. Great ep.
thats actually a true story too...its from simons homocide book
The Wire in 4:35: http://youtube.com/watch?v=IWjLquLREJU
Entertaining if you've seen the show, but it has to be incredibly confusing if you haven't.
Also 1.2 million watched the season 5 premiere, the lowest ever. Good.
Quote from: MDS on January 09, 2008, 04:27:40 PM
The Wire in 4:35: http://youtube.com/watch?v=IWjLquLREJU
Entertaining if you've seen the show, but it has to be incredibly confusing if you haven't.
Also 1.2 million watched the season 5 premiere, the lowest ever. Good.
thats awesome. Less people watch the wire than watch hockey. Pretty much proves the entire country is full of idiots
So...Avon returned and there is a fake serial killer because McNulty is crazy. Not really a jump the shark moment when you put it in context, but we'll see how it plays out.
yeah i dont like the serial killer angle at all...its ridiculous and the first thing in five seasons of the show that isnt 100% believable much less incredibly realistic
in theory, yes. but i rewatched the episode knowing what happened, and if you get inside mcnultys head, youll see how it makes sense to him. not saying i love the angle, but im willing to give david simon the benefit of the doubt and play this thing out.
there no problem with mcnulty thinking of it...i mean hes clearly losing it...but for lester to agree with it and help him or for it to even remotely work is ludicrous...the only way to really save it would be for mcnulty to realize his idiocy and give it up or for him to get caught before it goes any further...
if this is a story line thruout this season and actually catches on with the dept/media/public then it will be a major mistake imo
(http://www.esquire.com/cm/esquire/images/uC/david-simon-0308-lg.jpg)
http://www.esquire.com/print-this/essay/david-simon-0308
Its Tuesday and EP 3 is still not up ondemand. Comcast is a bunch of slackers.
yeah ant and steve have been talking about that all day on wip
but i watched it last night on mine
must be the philly area only
im going through wire withdrawl. dont have hbo and wont get to see ep. 3 until it comes on the torrent sites on sunday night. farg you all.
So now you're posting here to talk about how you DIDN'T watch the wire? jesus christ. Get a grip.
Me not watching The Wire is still much more interesting than anything pertaining to Penn State University Athletics.
Wow. That was really weak. I'm actually sort of embarrassed for you.
be a lot embarrassed
wire > pennsyltucky
Can we just have an orgy and stop the charades?
i just watched episode 2 tonight and was very excited to see avon. you know he's planning something.
Quote from: ice grillin you on January 15, 2008, 03:25:00 PM
yeah ant and steve have been talking about that all day on wip
but i watched it last night on mine
must be the philly area only
What happened to the excitement of watching it when it airs? still not ondemand here.
episode 3 is on the torrent sites for those that do that. go nerds.
Quote from: SD_Eagle on January 15, 2008, 11:10:33 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on January 15, 2008, 03:25:00 PM
yeah ant and steve have been talking about that all day on wip
but i watched it last night on mine
must be the philly area only
What happened to the excitement of watching it when it airs? still not ondemand here.
it did air
on hbo ondemand
i never said i would wait till its regular hbo airing
i said i wouldnt talk about it till its regular airing
for those people who dont have hbo and/or ondemand
i also said id never watch it online
episode 3 was on my ondemand yesterday, i just didn't have time to watch it yet.
Still not on here, I wrote an email to Comcast philly customer support but I highly doubt I see any results.
you should burn down their office.
I was gonna crack a joke about planes and the comcast building but I fear the nsa
after watching episode 3, the wire > breathing.
episode 3 is finally up in my area. It was okay, the next episode looks like it's going to be a good one.
agreed, 3 was ok. episode 4 is gonna be the shtein.
one thing that bothers me is that mcnulty's british accent is coming out big time this season.
I didn't even realize he had the accent in the first couple of seasons, this season it's really obvious.
Please shut up.
no
episode 3 was ridiculous. those who say it was "okay" suck at life.
Just finished the 4th episode, Marlo is the devil
Quote from: SD_Eagle on January 21, 2008, 01:47:51 AM
Just finished the 4th episode, Marlo is the devil
How could he do that? Boy's got to go.
Just a prediction but Omar starts his revenge next week by dropping snoop. Marlo gets it in the last episode. The press angle is pretty boring so far.
Saw 5 and 6. Things just get better, I'll leave it at that.
from bill simmons article today
"Speaking of "The Wire," old friend Jason Whitlock and I were exchanging e-mails about the greatest scene in "Wire" history last weekend. I always thought it was the Stringer/Avon balcony scene in the third season when it became clear that (A) one of them was going to kill the other, and (B) each of them was thinking this, only they were pretending it wasn't the case. Just an amazing piece of writing and acting. Whitlock argues for the first Marlo/Avon jail scene (from this season's second episode) and made such a convincing case that I went back to the episode "On Demand" and watched it three straight times ... and he's right, that's an incredible scene. Now I'm torn. I want to see how Season 5 plays out before I make a final verdict. If you have any thoughts, send them along."
Haha, so I assume that MDS will play Simmons and IGY will be Whitlock for their next 'date night'.
id have to lose about 50 lbs
the ending of episode 4 is holy shtein.
If you have not seen all of Season 4, DO NOT READ this question.
All this time I thought it was Michael that killed Bodie, but other people are telling me it was that dude O-Dog. anyone else think it was Michael? why would they bother bringing in basically a brand new character to take out once of the longest standing ones?
Quote from: phattymatty on January 24, 2008, 03:56:05 PM
If you have not seen all of Season 4, DO NOT READ this question.
All this time I thought it was Michael that killed Bodie, but other people are telling me it was that dude O-Dog. anyone else think it was Michael? why would they bother bringing in basically a brand new character to take out once of the longest standing ones?
It definitely wasn't Michael. He drops some other random dealer at the end of the season finale. Maybe it was O-dog but I'm not sure since he's such a minor character. Bodie's character really didn't fit with how the story was going so I think they just killed him off for the sake of getting rid of his character.
Quote from: SD_Eagle on January 24, 2008, 06:39:44 PM
Quote from: phattymatty on January 24, 2008, 03:56:05 PM
If you have not seen all of Season 4, DO NOT READ this question.
All this time I thought it was Michael that killed Bodie, but other people are telling me it was that dude O-Dog. anyone else think it was Michael? why would they bother bringing in basically a brand new character to take out once of the longest standing ones?
It definitely wasn't Michael. He drops some other random dealer at the end of the season finale. Maybe it was O-dog but I'm not sure since he's such a minor character. Bodie's character really didn't fit with how the story was going so I think they just killed him off for the sake of getting rid of his character.
It was O-Dog. I'm not sure who he is these days, but he's described as an up and coming member of the Stanfield clan. Anyway, remember Chris said that Michaels' first kill shouldn't be with someone he knows (worked for Bodie, knew him threw Namond), so instead he dropped some random dude.
Having O-Dog kill Bodie showed how insignificant he was to Marlo. I don't even think Marlo went up to him to tell him that he either takes on Marlo's package or dies, it was either Chris/Snoop or Monk. It was that simple. So when they found out Bodie was talking to police, he was a dead man. And since offing him wasn't a big deal, O-Dog did it. You've seen that Chris handles all majors deaths, but for minor ones, he sends out others to get the job done.
Just finished Season 3. Going to buy Season 4 with my next paycheck.
In the meantime, I'm going to watch all the episodes with commentary.
ok so after thinking about this since yesterday i believe this to be the best scene ever from the wire and also the best scene in the history of tv...however i open to suggestions that may change my mind
(from season 1 so no spoilers)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YrSy9r0-lMg
that's probably a spoiler for me
not if you dont ever actually watch the show it isnt
i probably will someday...so don't ruin anything
I've phatty'd Season 1: Disc 1 three times now.
It's sitting on my dvd player. I am probably going to send it back again without watching it.
i just gave my season one set to my cousin to watch
everytime i get a new person into the show i feel like ive made the world a better place
There's a scene coming up in episode 7 that rivals that, igylicious. Speaking of which, there is now a month between when I will see the next new episode. So all you little fargtards better be on your best behavior, or else I'll start spoiling shtein.
I'm just kidding, I would never do that. Well, unless igy stops putting out. Then I would. I have very, very little patience when my boy-toy doesn't put out.
Quote from: MDS on January 25, 2008, 04:32:34 PM
There's a scene coming up in episode 7 that rivals that, igylicious. Speaking of which, there is now a month between when I will see the next new episode. So all you little fargtards better be on your best behavior, or else I'll start spoiling shtein.
I'm just kidding, I would never do that. Well, unless igy stops putting out. Then I would. I have very, very little patience when my boy-toy doesn't put out.
Just kill yourself already.
What happens if I already tried and the gun didn't go off?
Try harder.
Episode 5 is up ondemand. Not really a spoiler but there's a funny scene between McNulty and the reporter who's lying.
Anyone else feel really depressed when Prop Joe died? Like they just lost a father...who is really, really, really fat?
i know i did...that was some cold shtein
you hate black people and don't watch the show. go away.
Quote from: MDS on January 28, 2008, 01:24:20 PM
Anyone else feel really depressed when Prop Joe died? Like they just lost a father...who is really, really, really fat?
yeah, I can admit it. You don't realize how great of a character he was till he was gone. The way he was taken out helped influence that.
no, but that shtein was crazy...like the one dude went into the house and was like, "you won't be needing that" and the fat dude was like, "i treated you like a son" and the other dude was like, "i wasn't meant to play the son, son" and the fat dude was like, "i'll just go away, you won't ever hear from me again..." and the other dude was like, "nah, you'll be causing ruckus in no time, just close your eyes, it won't hurt" ....then BANG!
crazy yo!
shtein go down in Souderton like that, son.
it do when i say it do
Surprisingly mediocre season so far. I hope the last 5 episodes make up for it.
i agree...they probably should have stopped this after four years...this season is weaksauce
It was pretty much impossible to top season 4, especially considering they added a new element and only have 10 episodes to get through that and wrap everything up. All things considered, I'd say it's the on pace to be the 4th or 5th greatest season ever for a TV show.
This conversation is on pace to be greatest ever too! Exclamation point!
Sorry. I meant the fourth or fifth greatest conversation ever.
the first episode of this season looked like it was going to really tie everything together from all of the seasons. that just isn't even close to happening yet. i agree it's probably one of the worst yet.
you can kind of see where the newspaper angle is going but it's just so friggin boring so far. and you don't really like any of the characters except for gus, and even he is meh.
I agree. The newspaper angle is really boring so far. They are doing well of showing it realistically, but it just isn't really entertaining.
Also McNulty's little plan seems really far-fetched, but then again, legalizing drugs back in season 3 was unrealistic too.
Quote from: MDS on January 28, 2008, 09:27:49 PM
It was pretty much impossible to top season 4, especially considering they added a new element and only have 10 episodes to get through that and wrap everything up. All things considered, I'd say it's the on pace to be the 4th or 5th greatest season ever for a TV show.
yeah i mean right now its still better than any show ever but its closer to say the sopranos best season rather than being from another world like the first four years were
and i like the newspaper angle the best right now...granted im into that kind of stuff....but the rest of it is more far fetched and is trying to touch an entertainment angle rather than a realism one...it feels more like an episode of homocide than the shakespearean tragedy that the first four seasons were...its still wonderful its just not the wire
Also McNulty's little plan seems really far-fetched, but then again, legalizing drugs back in season 3 was unrealistic too.first of all drugs were not legalized...only lawmakers can do that...secondly it was not unrealistic as hampsterdam essentially happened in baltimore in the 80's as a way of comnbating drug violence...it wasnt done exactly as the show showed but it was very close...i would bet it has happened in most major cities at one time or another...usually the cops themselves stop the program tho as opposed to it reaching the media as it did on the show
I know the drugs weren't officially legalized, but they just turned a blind eye. Essentially the same thing.
Didn't know a variation has been done before.
igy things start making more sense as the next two episodes (or three if you havent seen 5) air. the reality of the situation sets in and the fact that something like this is happening is covered from all angles. no, its not the greatest story line ever, but the show still takes place in a real place, not in a magical fantasy universe like most tv shows.
things make sense now
Quote from: King Cole on January 29, 2008, 05:30:42 PM
I know the drugs weren't officially legalized, but they just turned a blind eye. Essentially the same thing.
Didn't know a variation has been done before.
yeah they did it in the 80's in bmore...but it was a few city blocks versus an abandoned lot like they did on the show...it was done during the crack wars back then as a way to slow down violent crime when there was a string of drug murders in a short peoriod of time
Quote from: ice grillin you on January 29, 2008, 07:59:04 PM
things make sense now
if thats a veiled criticism of me, i wont hear it and i wont respond to it.
im saying my critiscim of the show is not that i dont understand anything or that its not making sense its that this year is dumbed down to me and has lost some of its realism...its intelligence and its message sending and is more geared towards typical television entertainment
I still find it as entertaining as ever. Obviously not as good as season 4, but nothing will ever be better than that.
its not nearly as good as 1-4...now its more like a real television show but better...like homocide on crack
ive watched seasons 1-4 a total of three times each and i have yet to find a single thing wrong about any of them...they were utter perfection and as good as most movies...this season is not like that...its truly a television show now
I like it better than 2 so far. But this season will essentially be judged on how they wrap the entire series up.
the same way they should wrap Baltimore up...nuclear bomb
Quote from: SunMo on January 30, 2008, 02:01:03 PM
the same way they should wrap Baltimore up...nuclear bomb
can we wait for the show to be over and also try to not include the eagles bar?
no guarentees
this is why i love my boo..."working" from home today and just sent me this
From:"Lew Michelle D" <Michelle.Lew@irs.gov>
[Add to Address Book]
To:<havas22@comcast.net>
Subject:RE: BOX
Date:Wednesday, January 30, 2008 3:41:52 PM
[View Source]
Bunk is on law and order right now
you probably want to get rid of her email address and last name
not her real address...and i could care less about her last name since it will soon be mine
ummmm what?
that point aside...FF is a pretty serious cyber stalker and any scrap of info he can get his hands on is not good. ask RJS
Quote from: ice grillin you on January 30, 2008, 03:54:11 PM
not her real address...and i could care less about her last name since it will soon be mine
your name is going to be mike lew? nice.
Quote from: SunMo on January 30, 2008, 04:01:51 PM
that point aside...FF is a pretty serious cyber stalker and any scrap of info he can get his hands on is not good. ask RJS
Truth.
ive already sent ff a check with mine and her name on it...anyway hes definitely stalking me before her
should have married a goldstein or a cohen, havas. tisk, tisk.
article on the 'fall" of the wire...i think its a little harsh and it certainly hasnt "jumped the shark" but theres a lot of this i was speaking on yesterday in this thread that i agree with
http://www.washingtoncitypaper.com/display.php?id=34511
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But it's thudding to a close, stuck in a stereotypically TV-like world it's heroically avoided until now.
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Season 5's mistakes—clunky plotting, false parallels, confused motivations—are violations of the realism the show promised. And without a solid rooting in truth, The Wire doesn't just have a bad season—it betrays its own intentions. David Simon broke a contract, changed the rules without warning. In his world, that's something only the Wire-bad are supposed to do.
This season has been disappointing but I won't call it a flat out bust until I see the final 5 episodes.
The final episode, originally listed under the title "The Life of Kings", is officially titled "-30-".
"-30- is something typed at the bottom of telegraphs to mean finished. It replaced XXX which is 30 in roman numerals. It goes on press releases to this day and is probably used a lot in the newpaper world from when wire services meant literally using a telegraph operator to distribute news quickly. It means the end."
Also, the final episode has a running time of 93 minutes (http://static.arsenal-now.com/forum/images/avatars/205194907743b4d5d1c8b3a.gif)
Quote from: ice grillin you on January 31, 2008, 03:18:46 PM
Also, the final episode has a running time of 93 minutes
omg. 93 = 9 + 3 = 12, which backwards is 21. coincidence?
http://weblogs.baltimoresun.com/entertainment/critics/blog/2008/01/the_wire_auction_benefits_char.html
wire auction includes kick ass sweatshirts. bidding starts at a hundy, money goes to the ella fund. looks sweet.
So, I have heard from everyone, including you doods, how good this show is.
Unfortunatley, I'm kind of a weirdo when it comes to movies or serial shows, in that I hate coming into something in the middle.
If a movie that I want to watch is on TV, if I miss more than like the first ten minutes, I will just skip it and watch it another time.
I never got to watch this show, but I always wanted to.
So I bought the first 3 seasons, packaged, on DVD for like $99 including shipping last week.
I should have been suspiscious from the jump b/c the only DVD's for sale I saw were two seasons together, and for more than $100. Each season doesn't really get much cheaper than $60 anywhere else.
When it showed up last week, i knew why it was so cheap. It came straight from China and it is total bootleg. The front of the package says 'Sensons 1-3' and when you unwrap the (suprisingly good) outer packing to get to the dvd's, the are just in those crappy plastic cd sleeves that you get for like $4.99.
Not that I really care about pirating, but I email them saying it is obviously bootleg, they need to refund me at least 75% of the purchase price or I will cancel my credit card payment and report them to HBO and the online piracy thing.
I had a similar situation where I bought the Rosetta Stone series from the cheapest bidder, saw that it was fake, and wound up having the reimburse me 60% off the already cheap price, basically getting a $350 product for like $75. They havn't replied yet and it is the last day of the three days i gave them to, so i guess I will just fight the charge and get it for free.
There is one downside to this, in that I am about to start watching season one, episodes 6-8, and the disk is scratched and fargked up. Episodes 6 and 7 totally do not work. I tried playing them in my CPU, I tried copying them to my Hard Drive and then playing them from there, nothing. they just don't work.
So I guess I will just skip to episode 8, which get's my OCD all worked up, unless someone has better solution.
how can i overcome these damn scratches?
Quick update, I just checked my bank account and they refunded me the entire purchase price, didn't even reply to my email.
Report them anyway. Just for fun.
Quote from: methdeez on February 01, 2008, 02:26:37 PM
Quick update, I just checked my bank account and they refunded me the entire purchase price, didn't even reply to my email.
You could have just got the 3 disk plan on blockbusteronline for $18 a month and got caught up that way. That's pretty much what I did.
I already pay enough for the damn Satellite, NFL package and DVR. More than enough entertainment bills, and more than enough watching TV for me already.
The wire was an impulse buy, that turned out to be free.
yay for the lowest bidder.
stop destroying this thread with heartland tales of being ripped off on the internet...do you farging live in des moines or something and just discovered the internets?
go to farging walmart or online at amazon and buy the box sets
(http://www.philaflava.com/forum/images/smiles/claydavis.gif)
Quote from: ice grillin you on February 02, 2008, 12:24:11 AM
stop destroying this thread with heartland tales of being ripped off on the internet...do you farging live in des moines or something and just discovered the internets?
go to farging walmart or online at amazon and buy the box sets
(http://www.philaflava.com/forum/images/smiles/claydavis.gif)
Hey a big old Farg you from small town america buddy :flipoff
Episode 6 is up. Booorrrrring.
for real? that's disappointing. i'm curious as to what happened to omar after his little fall.
wow i dont know how you could ever say the wire is boring...maybe not as good as the first four years but still magical...i thought it was a very good episode...the serial killer storyline is still a little far fetched imo but everything else is coming together nicely
Best episode of the season last night by far. Omar is about to go wild.
Quote from: ice grillin you on February 04, 2008, 03:36:29 PM
wow i dont know how you could ever say the wire is boring...maybe not as good as the first four years but still magical...i thought it was a very good episode...the serial killer storyline is still a little far fetched imo but everything else is coming together nicely
I watched it at midnight and granted I was tanked but I fell asleep twice and had to rewind to see what I missed. The serial killer storyline is absolutely ridiculous and extremely far fetched. From the previews McNulty dug himself in a hole and now wants out, how predictable. McNulty's character is awful, I miss the redundant drunkiness and banging ho's he meets at bars. The press angle puts me to sleep whenever its on and aside from Gus the rest of the reporters are boring. Redeeming qualities of the last episode were:
Omar of course
Marlo raising the price of the brick
Carcetti and Daniels speech on the homeless killings was money
Quote from: SD_Eagle on February 04, 2008, 08:41:36 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on February 04, 2008, 03:36:29 PM
wow i dont know how you could ever say the wire is boring...maybe not as good as the first four years but still magical...i thought it was a very good episode...the serial killer storyline is still a little far fetched imo but everything else is coming together nicely
McNulty's character is awful, I miss the redundant drunkiness and banging ho's he meets at bars. The press angle puts me to sleep whenever its on and aside from Gus the rest of the reporters are boring. Redeeming qualities of the last episode were:
theres been what six episode this year and in probably five of them mcnultys been drunk or womanizing...so i dont understand what you mena by you miss it
the press storyline i could see people not liking...i personally love it as im interested in newsrooms and the newspaper business...but its def not for everyone...seems sd like you want episodes of omar running around like john mcclain and mcnulty having sex all show...ie more action....fair enough but thats not what the wire is nor has it ever been
Am I really the only one that's going to make fun of IGY for calling a TV show 'magical'? farging weirdos.
Quote from: ice grillin you on February 05, 2008, 06:38:06 AM
...seems sd like you want episodes of omar running around like john mcclain and mcnulty having sex all show...ie more action....fair enough but thats not what the wire is nor has it ever been
Not exactly but more of that would definitely be better. The more I can hear McNulty's accent the worse his character is, for some reason I don't think that's a coincedence. Instead of concentrating so much of the show on the boring press angle they could of focused more on the Clay Davis indictment, what's going on with Marlo and the co-op, what's been happening with Randy (seeing his character was refreshing). I know every season has an angle and the press one would have been fine if it were in smaller doses.
Look, I love the show, probably my all time favorite show along with Lost, I'm willing to give it the full season before I label it a bust.
the problem with the serial killer storyline is that its there to expose the ills of inner city goverment...something that is already being done by showing the financial shortfalls of the police department...you can show budget shortfalls without concocting what is at best a semi believable storyline...
the lack of creative liberties that simon took in the first four years is what made the show so incredibly realistic to the point that you felt as if you were watching a documentary not a tv show...this year the serial killer thing while not awful or anything makes the wire a tv show instead of a something much more
the show is definitely a victim of its own success...like how do you top perfection...even tho they did it for four years i guess five was asking for too much...this year it will just have to settle for best tv show of all time as opposed to being better than everything else in tv history combined (or something like that)
Quote from: ice grillin you on February 05, 2008, 09:16:58 AM
the show is definitely a victim of its own success...
I can agree with that, this season is entertaining and I'm eagerly awaiting to see how they wrap it up.
Shut up. All of you. Watch Arrested Development.
or king of queens
and Dexter
and Americas Funnies Home Videos...
snoop: you think you all that cuz you hasslin men who make me cross the street and check for my wallet and bitches
bunk: i KNOW im all that...im thinking about pussssy
snoop: yeah me too
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That be a lezzie if I's ever seen one.
Interesting, even if I don't agree with all of it...
http://www.washingtoncitypaper.com/display.php?id=34511 (http://www.washingtoncitypaper.com/display.php?id=34511)
i posted a similar article last week
Quote56. 5- 6 506 10 Feb 08 The Dickensian Aspect
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Daniels has been on Lost the past 2 weeks...also saw him in a Cadillac Escalade commercial
also saw Clay Davis in a Southwest Airlines commercial
namond and omar were both on svu last night....omar got got at the end of the episode....hopefully thats not a sign
was it the one where omar takes the young girl into the warehouse at the end?
also, i was flickin through channels last night and i stopped when i saw bunk. he was doing a love scene with some broad in waiting to exhale.
yeah thats it and he gets shot trying to run the cop over at the very end
IMO this latest episode took a step back from episode 6.
Quote from: King Cole on February 11, 2008, 01:19:34 AM
IMO this latest episode took a step back from episode 6.
In terms of quality or the storyline? I thought it took a step forward in both.
sweet. everyone is caught up to me.
Quote from: SD_Eagle on February 11, 2008, 07:37:44 AM
Quote from: King Cole on February 11, 2008, 01:19:34 AM
IMO this latest episode took a step back from episode 6.
In terms of quality or the storyline? I thought it took a step forward in both.
I thought 6 was easily the best of the season. I liked the first half of episode 7, but I thought the second half was pretty boring. I want more Omar. His storyline is by far the best IMO. Him vs Marlo.
Since they kept the final 3 episodes tightly wrapped I'm pretty sure they're saving the Marlo/Omar showdown for them, more specificly I'm thinking the final episode is when Marlo drops. I don't like Omar on the crutch, takes away from his character. The Clay Davis case was far fetched but funny.
Clay Davis scene was an all time classic. I remember a tv critic saying Simon assured them that the final 3 episodes would be sent to them. So perhaps those will leak.
*****Major Spoiler***** Probably the biggest Wire spoiler ever. I wish I wouldn't have seen this. I'm hoping Simon just put this out there to farg with people. No way they can have Kenard kill off Omar. This has got to be a diversion: Link (http://www.zshare.net/video/70894426ceb610/)
I didn't read it, but does it have to do with Omar?
If so, I read that accidentally somewhere else and I hope it is fake, but it would be funny.
Yes, and that link is the clip. That wouldn't be funny, it would be awful.
haha, i hope that happens
I think it would be funny, because it is completely and totally fitting. Omar's fate is death. He flirts with it too often. How fitting would it be for him to get capped by some underaged kid after he sized up dudes 5 times his age all his life?
Quote from: King Cole on February 12, 2008, 04:26:55 PM
I think it would be funny, because it is completely and totally fitting. Omar's fate is death. He flirts with it too often. How fitting would it be for him to get capped by some underaged kid after he sized up dudes 5 times his age all his life?
It would be awful. Everyone's fate is death so that point is ridiculous. I'd rather the final scene be him walking with his shotgun whistling farmer in the del. Not being capped by some 8 year old kid in a convenience store. If that happens it will go down as one of the all time worst things ever to happen on television. I notice in the clip he's not walking with a limp so who knows what is really going on.
Quote from: SD_Eagle on February 12, 2008, 05:09:06 PM
Quote from: King Cole on February 12, 2008, 04:26:55 PM
I think it would be funny, because it is completely and totally fitting. Omar's fate is death. He flirts with it too often. How fitting would it be for him to get capped by some underaged kid after he sized up dudes 5 times his age all his life?
It would be awful. Everyone's fate is death so that point is ridiculous. I'd rather the final scene be him walking with his shotgun whistling farmer in the del. Not being capped by some 8 year old kid in a convenience store. If that happens it will go down as one of the all time worst things ever to happen on television. I notice in the clip he's not walking with a limp so who knows what is really going on.
Of course everyone's fate is death in real life. I meant in this particular show. Your ending would be cool too, but I really wouldn't have a huge issue with that ending. Other than the fact that I already saw it and it is ruined. I noticed he had a cane in the scene, so maybe his leg is still messed up, it just wasn't as evident.
Quote from: King Cole on February 12, 2008, 05:27:48 PM
Quote from: SD_Eagle on February 12, 2008, 05:09:06 PM
Quote from: King Cole on February 12, 2008, 04:26:55 PM
I think it would be funny, because it is completely and totally fitting. Omar's fate is death. He flirts with it too often. How fitting would it be for him to get capped by some underaged kid after he sized up dudes 5 times his age all his life?
It would be awful. Everyone's fate is death so that point is ridiculous. I'd rather the final scene be him walking with his shotgun whistling farmer in the del. Not being capped by some 8 year old kid in a convenience store. If that happens it will go down as one of the all time worst things ever to happen on television. I notice in the clip he's not walking with a limp so who knows what is really going on.
Of course everyone's fate is death in real life. I meant in this particular show. Your ending would be cool too, but I really wouldn't have a huge issue with that ending. Other than the fact that I already saw it and it is ruined. I noticed he had a cane in the scene, so maybe his leg is still messed up, it just wasn't as evident.
worst conversation ever
Quote from: King Cole on February 12, 2008, 05:27:48 PM
Quote from: SD_Eagle on February 12, 2008, 05:09:06 PM
Quote from: King Cole on February 12, 2008, 04:26:55 PM
I think it would be funny, because it is completely and totally fitting. Omar's fate is death. He flirts with it too often. How fitting would it be for him to get capped by some underaged kid after he sized up dudes 5 times his age all his life?
It would be awful. Everyone's fate is death so that point is ridiculous. I'd rather the final scene be him walking with his shotgun whistling farmer in the del. Not being capped by some 8 year old kid in a convenience store. If that happens it will go down as one of the all time worst things ever to happen on television. I notice in the clip he's not walking with a limp so who knows what is really going on.
Of course everyone's fate is death in real life. I meant in this particular show. Your ending would be cool too, but I really wouldn't have a huge issue with that ending. Other than the fact that I already saw it and it is ruined. I noticed he had a cane in the scene, so maybe his leg is still messed up, it just wasn't as evident.
(http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f98/SD_Eagle5/omar-1.jpg)
re-watched episode 6 just now.
the randy scene with bunk = most painful moment in the show since wallace died.
MDS knows if the spoiler is real or not and he hasn't even seen the rest yet. He just knows.
They've done a phenominal job of keeping the last 3 episodes under wraps, which lends me to believe that scene was a diversion. Out of all the scenes to leak why leak that one? I did some looking around lastnight on some boards and some fans who swore they saw the last 3 said: McNulty either commits suicide because his life is down the tubes (no girlfriend, alcoholic, he leaves the police) or he gets relieved, he takes the wrap for the fake homeless deaths and leaves Lester out of it. Chris fesses up to the murders in the empty houses after Bunk finds DNA off of Michaels dad. Omar kills Snoop. Marlo puts a huge ransom on Omars head, Kenard takes out Omar, then Chris and Snoop take out Kenard. Dukie becomes a crack head. Namon and Bunny make an appearance at a funeral, but I have no idea whose funeral. Freemon cracks Marlo's watch code and Marlo gets locked up, last scene you see is him in jail and Avon and the Russian near him, not sure if its good or bad for Marlo.
No idea if any of the above is true, just what I read and wish I hadn't.
I just started watching this show last week, I am almost done with the first season. So far I really like it, the only thing that kind of sucks about it is some of the acting.
http://www.worldstarhiphop.com/videos/video.php?v=wshhGr737VnmpU3EwIY6
Quote from: SD_Eagle on February 12, 2008, 12:27:39 AM
*****Major Spoiler***** Probably the biggest Wire spoiler ever. I wish I wouldn't have seen this. I'm hoping Simon just put this out there to farg with people. No way they can have Kenard kill off Omar. This has got to be a diversion: Link (http://www.zshare.net/video/70894426ceb610/)
Worst episode ever. Worst season ever.
I'm gonna watch the last two episodes then pretend season 5 never existed.
I'm on board with you now. The clip made it look ironic, but it was just so totally uneventful when it plays out in full. Really lame and it completely killed it.
One of the best characters in TV history gone like nothing.
is that spoiler in reference to what just went down episode 8?
Quote from: MDS on February 18, 2008, 07:57:32 PM
is that spoiler in reference to what just went down episode 8?
Yeah. I really thought they threw it out there to throw people off. I wish I was right.
The death was fitting. It made sense. It would have been a complete cop out to have Omar gets the heroes ending or an over-dramatic, contrived send-off. He went into buy a pack of smokes, and some little thug hopper offed him. Just like that. That's what happens. Say what you want about the phony serial killer story line, but this was a painfully realistic way to send off Omar. The character certainly deserved better, but this isn't a typical TV show.
Quote from: MDS on February 18, 2008, 10:29:15 PM
The death was fitting. It made sense. It would have been a complete cop out to have Omar gets the heroes ending or an over-dramatic, contrived send-off. He went into buy a pack of smokes, and some little thug hopper offed him. Just like that. That's what happens. Say what you want about the phony serial killer story line, but this was a painfully realistic way to send off Omar. The character certainly deserved better, but this isn't a typical TV show.
They didn't have to kill him off...and letting Kenard some random 10 year old hopper kill him was beyond stupid. He didn't need a heroes ending, I would have rather of seen his character go into exile then have him killed off in such a manner. If I were the writers I'd be more concerned about giving the fans what they want. Its like the writers just threw that in there because like you said 'this isn't your typical show so this is how we are different'. We already get it, this isn't the Soprano's or some other crappy show.
That scene would have been like Clint Eastwood in High Plains Drifter going after the outlaws who whipped him then getting shot by the midget when he went into the saloon to grab a beer.
The best part of the serial killer angle was lastnight when the psychologist was describing the killers characteristics and McNulty's face when he realized he was describing him Like I said, after these last two episodes season 5 is dead to me.
I thought it was fitting at the time, but Omar is way too street smart to go out like that. He wouldn't be walking the streets like that either. He hides in the shadows and comes out when necessary.
Quote from: King Cole on February 18, 2008, 11:26:37 PM
I thought it was fitting at the time, but Omar is way too street smart to go out like that. He wouldn't be walking the streets like that either. He hides in the shadows and comes out when necessary.
not when he's telling anyone who will listen to tell Marlo to meet him in the streets...anytime...anywhere
Quote from: SD_Eagle on February 18, 2008, 11:32:41 PM
Quote from: King Cole on February 18, 2008, 11:26:37 PM
I thought it was fitting at the time, but Omar is way too street smart to go out like that. He wouldn't be walking the streets like that either. He hides in the shadows and comes out when necessary.
not when he's telling anyone who will listen to tell Marlo to meet him in the streets...anytime...anywhere
He took one look at Kenard and didn't view him as a threat. That was the point. When someone else came in the store he looked over to see who it was. If it was Chris or Snoop or someone like that, he would've drawn his gun. But it was a little kid, so he didn't bother. And now he's dead. He was done in by a little thug. Fitting end.
So I got the first disc of season 1 from netflix. I watched all three episodes.
It's ok. And i will eventually get to disc 2, but I am not in any hurry.
No.
http://www.newsweek.com/id/114438/output/print
Simon defends the season.
Episode 9 was by far the best episode of the season.
Jesus farging christ Omar is dead. I'm still in mourning.
I agree about episode 9 SD.
haha, they actually had a kid kill a major plot character...awesome
Quote from: MDS on February 13, 2008, 12:05:37 AM
re-watched episode 6 just now.
the randy scene with bunk = most painful moment in the show since wallace died.
not even top 10
i have refused to read this thread for the last three episodes...but they have been phenominal....right up there with the first four years...next week is gonna be redonkulous
you are a crazy kid, igy.
but episode 9 was one of the best yet. series finale should be total closure, so its gonna be something else. i dont think itll be up on demand, either.
it wont be?
wow thats horrible...we gotta wait two weeks
yea im pretty sure it wont. they are trying to make the finale into an event like many series finales are, but the problem is only 1 million people or so watch this show, so it wont be much.
i do hope im wrong, but at least this might give me some time re-watch the entire 5th season before the finale.
Quote from: ice grillin you on February 25, 2008, 09:01:50 PM
Quote from: MDS on February 13, 2008, 12:05:37 AM
re-watched episode 6 just now.
the randy scene with bunk = most painful moment in the show since wallace died.
not even top 10
i have refused to read this thread for the last three episodes...but they have been phenominal....right up there with the first four years...next week is gonna be redonkulous
smokin crack
Quote from: MDS on February 25, 2008, 09:31:35 PM
yea im pretty sure it wont. they are trying to make the finale into an event like many series finales are, but the problem is only 1 million people or so watch this show, so it wont be much.
thats pathetic and sickening...the fact that hbo farged simon by only giving him ten episodes then trying to make the finale into an 'event'...the wires so great because of its slow meticulate realistic character and plot development...so the notion of one episode being any better than another is so funny and just shows that execs are dummies and david simon is better than all our lives put together
i watched ep 9 again last night as i was going to bed and damn was it even better than on first watch
particularly brilliant was the connection btwn bubs and dook...both reminiscing about more innocent times...bubs in the park watching the sun go down and dook with the piss balloons...and then showing the vicious never ending cycle that is the inner city drug game...while one man might just be getting clean you have another kid on his way to hell...which was what that camp dook was walking into literally was...hell...with the fires blazing
i feel as tho simon didnt have bubs crying for sherrod but crying for kids like dook who are going to end up like sherrod
just incredible tv
most definitely. another thing that stood out was the chilling performance of jamie hector when he found out that omar was calling him a bitch. just the look on his face, the way his eyes barely blinked...damn. i normally thing of the wire as an ensemble piece where its impossible to pick one amazing performance of another, but this guy has really stood out over the past few years, and especially this season.
Marlo has a soulless look in his eyes that is just plain scary. I thought they overdramatized that scene a bit but regardless his character reads perfectly like a Greek tragedy. The look on Chris's face when he was flippin out said it all.
Kenard on a Balmore radio show--- http://youtube.com/watch?v=kHXpgbQrsEo
Interview with Omar--- http://nymag.com/daily/entertainment/2008/02/michael_k_williams_of_the_wire.html
Scene from season 3 where Kenard plays Omar in the streets--- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ksUNm6TZ1rQ
has there ever been a more beloved homosexual in the history of the world
john ritter in 3's company.
also if you didnt know, snoop is a carpet muncher.
snoop is not even in omars league and jack tripper wasnt gay
Quote from: ice grillin you on February 26, 2008, 06:59:37 PM
has there ever been a more beloved homosexual in the history of the world
Ted Haggard
Quote from: ice grillin you on February 26, 2008, 08:18:16 PM
snoop is not even in omars league and jack tripper wasnt gay
hows my hair look?
you look good girl
snoops the girl right?
in the few episodes i've seen she has to be one of the worst actors i've ever seen.
shes not really acting, shes playing herself.
the guy who died in the omar shootout in episode 4 or 5 was the guy the omar character was based on, donnie andrews.
and also sun mo is as cuddly as a tweddy bear but in reality is a dirty cracker that has no place in this thread.
if she's playing herself than she's a certified retard
shes ridiculously good on the show...if you think her acting sucks (and acting might be a stretch as mds said) then you definitely shouldnt ever watch the show...she labia lickin good
she's an embarrassment to humans..watch the scene when marlo tells them that omar got capped...
when she says "who?" it makes me want to throw up
youre lame attempts to stir up tomfoolery is high-larey-ous.
it's not an attempt, she seriously ruins that scene...along with that dude's stupid blank stare...they don't belong on the screen with marlo
does the arcane term 'goat' mean anything to you?
Quote from: SunMo on February 26, 2008, 08:44:36 PM
she's an embarrassment to humans..watch the scene when marlo tells them that omar got capped...
when she says "who?" it makes me want to throw up
thats a classic scene and without having the context of her character thruout the show you might not notice it but its so good because despite knowing that omar was out to kill her at the first chance he got she is not relieved by the news of his death but pissed that not only did she not do it but some no name random hopper did it
meet the parents is on and scott templeton is in it
i was watching spin city last month and he played a priest the ladies mistook as a stripper. farging hack journalist.
lol @ spin city
http://weblogs.baltimoresun.com/entertainment/critics/blog/2008/02/ondemand_fans_of_the_wire_will.html
officially no wire on demand for series finale. gonna have to watch it march 9 on hbo. its the fault on all the snitches who spoke to omar and snoop dieing.
btw spin city > everything else at 130 in the afternoon.
http://www.philly.com/philly/hp/news_update/Nutter_to_screen_The_Wire_finale_in_City_Hall_.html
This would be sweet to go to.
If you go ondemand right now it says episode 60 but its actually just a preview for the finale...here it is: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oGXWUniLCZc
shiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiit
Alright well this was bound to happen. The finale leaked onto the interwebs. So anyone who can't wait...it's there. I'm gonna watch it this afternoon and won't post in this thread until Sunday night. As to not even hint at spoiling it. Good day.
I'm gonna wait since its the last ever episode, but you can give the old thumbs up or thumbs down I suppose
:yay
is there such thing as a thumbs down when talking about the wire?
anyway i meant to post this the other day...
so lately ive been rewatching the series again and im currently in season three...
cant recall the episode but i wanna say 33...theres a scene in hampsterdam where this chick from the suburbs is seen buying drugs from a car....i notcie its dee dee the chick from this season who gives a speech at a NA meeting about recovering from her addiction...so i look into it and find she is in one other episode from season 4 where she walks into old faced andres shop to buy something....she is clearly working as a prostitute for drug money....
to see the whole connection is so cool....you have a glimpse at the genius and beauty of the wire....an entire character arc completed using just 3 scenes thruout three seasons...and they do it with such subtlety and without fanfare...i swear to god im gonna be watching this show for years to look for stuff like this
I'm waiting till Sunday night but here it is, the final episode. (http://www.surfthechannel.com/show/television/The_Wire.html)
Quote from: ice grillin you on March 07, 2008, 02:08:43 PM
is there such thing as a thumbs down when talking about the wire?
anyway i meant to post this the other day...
so lately ive been rewatching the series again and im currently in season three...
cant recall the episode but i wanna say 33...theres a scene in hampsterdam where this chick from the suburbs is seen buying drugs from a car....i notcie its dee dee the chick from this season who gives a speech at a NA meeting about recovering from her addiction...so i look into it and find she is in one other episode from season 4 where she walks into old faced andres shop to buy something....she is clearly working as a prostitute for drug money....
to see the whole connection is so cool....you have a glimpse at the genius and beauty of the wire....an entire character arc completed using just 3 scenes thruout three seasons...and they do it with such subtlety and without fanfare...i swear to god im gonna be watching this show for years to look for stuff like this
whitlock mentioned this in his talk with simmons in his podcast about the show. it was a good listen as a prelude to seeing the finale. which i wont speak on.
i heard about that but i heard it sucked...isnt simmons on it too
they talked about the show for 45 minutes. wasnt amazing talk, but ill listen to bush and hillary clinton talk about the wire.
what is a podcast
do you have a link?
it better be worth it or im sending your phillies ticket back
espn.com and its there. i luv u lots
so excited
same here, I cant wait for this, and hope that it doesnt disappoint, which im sure wont happen.
boners all around
i hope they eat onion rings at the end
Quote from: SunMo on March 09, 2008, 08:06:15 PM
i hope they eat onion rings at the end
Onion Rings are to die for
best in the state
I hope all the white characters get killed.
burger king onion ring dippin sauce FTW
Quote from: Rome on March 09, 2008, 08:13:38 PM
I hope all the white characters get killed.
white characters? i'm not familiar
Amazing
McNulty was in "300". Now I know why IGY hates that movie as much as he does.
:-D :-D :-D :-D :-D
I'd consider it a borderline flawless ending. Everything came full circle and stayed true to the characters and stayed true to how it would play out in real life. The only thing I've read some different takes on is how Marlo turned out. It was my understanding that he took over that corner at the end after giving up the crown, kind of running thing quietly and behind the scene like Joe did.
I loved the Sydnor/Judge Phelan scene that was right out of the first episode.
Also that cut of Dookie shooting up = pain. It went by so fast that you didn't really have time to tear up, but man, you saw it coming and it still killed.
farging brilliant.
Michael = new Omar. :-D
The legend lives on. Marlo already forgotten.
Quote from: Seabiscuit36 on March 09, 2008, 10:25:45 PM
Amazing
yup
This wasn't my favorite season but the last 2 episodes were as good as any. The ending montage with the original theme song was perfect.
i like how michael turned out.
i liked slim gettin cheese.
good ending with marlo.
poor dookie.
Quote from: MDS on March 09, 2008, 10:40:31 PM
I'd consider it a borderline flawless ending. Everything came full circle and stayed true to the characters and stayed true to how it would play out in real life. The only thing I've read some different takes on is how Marlo turned out. It was my understanding that he took over that corner at the end after giving up the crown, kind of running thing quietly and behind the scene like Joe did.
I loved the Sydnor/Judge Phelan scene that was right out of the first episode.
Also that cut of Dookie shooting up = pain. It went by so fast that you didn't really have time to tear up, but man, you saw it coming and it still killed.
I cant remember a better ending to a show. They covered everything, and Dook shooting up, becoming Bubs was tough to see. Michael becoming Omar was amazing. Carver becoming Daniels. Sydnor becoming McNulty. Just amazing to see in an episode. This is one of the shows that 10 years from now will be looked at with astonishment
I was dealing with a screaming infant during the Herc/Levy scene, did Levy tell Herc to give Marlo's number up? I only caught of that scene when he was thanking him.
My favorite scene was when Bunk and McNulty had the homeless guy they were framing for the murder in the interrogation room. It was great to hear the homeless guy explain what McNulty was, and why he did the things he did. I thought that was unbelievably good.
Quote from: SD_Eagle on March 09, 2008, 10:45:10 PM
I was dealing with a screaming infant during the Herc/Levy scene, did Levy tell Herc to give Marlo's number up? I only caught of that scene when he was thanking him.
Herc played both sides. He tipped Levy to the wiretap and got rewarded for it.
Quote from: SD_Eagle on March 09, 2008, 10:45:10 PM
I was dealing with a screaming infant during the Herc/Levy scene, did Levy tell Herc to give Marlo's number up? I only caught of that scene when he was thanking him.
no, he thanked him and told him to come to dinner at his house.
Quote from: phattymatty on March 09, 2008, 10:43:53 PM
i like how michael turned out.
i liked slim gettin cheese.
good ending with marlo.
poor dookie.
Cheese needed to drop
Worst thing really is that there is no ammo for a movie. What's to tell? Everything is closed.
Except for maybe the Marlo angle, you could still get some play out of him and Slim Charles running the Greeks' package. I guess you could also follow Carcetti as governor, but it would just be a repeat of his bullshtein as mayor.
Show is done. Maybe a prequel?
I think its best if they just let it lie. Why mess with something so masterfully done?
Quote from: MDS on March 09, 2008, 10:48:34 PM
Show is done.
I think so. Although the thing I want to see play out the most is what happens with Michael. I figured he went into hiding but now that he's the new Omar I'd love to see a spinoff show of his life on the street.
i liked watching marlo take that corner. and i don't think a movie would work at all. as much as i'll miss the show, i don't think a two-hour movie could do it justice.
i still feel like overall, this last season was a bit rushed. but with only 10 episodes to work with, you can't ask for much more of an ending.
Michael is going to be a less talented version of Omar. We saw how the life of stick-up boy goes down. You can hide in the dark, but eventually you're gonna get got. It may during a heist, it may be in the corner store buying a soft pack of Newports, but you ain't gonna live long. And Michael knows nothing but Baltimore, so it's not like he's gonna run away.
Remember when Bodie said he was never out of Baltimore? When Michael didn't know where Fairfax was? That's the point. Omar dies, someone else takes over. Bubbles gets clean, someone other teenager starts shootin' up. It's and endless cycle of bullshtein, as seen with Royce to Carcetti to Narece and even Burrell to Daniels to Valcheck (great way to close his character).
speaking of narece, she was only on for a minute tonight but god damn did she look good.
Quote from: MDS on March 09, 2008, 10:40:31 PM
The only thing I've read some different takes on is how Marlo turned out. It was my understanding that he took over that corner at the end after giving up the crown, kind of running thing quietly and behind the scene like Joe did.
I think Marlo becomes the new Stringer. He said he wanted to become a business man just like Stringer did, and that scene where Levy was introducing him to everyone couldn't have been by accident.
Was Marlo walking up to the corner planned or not? I didn't get why he left that whole party and why he even walked up to those kids to begin with.
Quote from: MDS on March 09, 2008, 10:40:31 PM
I'd consider it a borderline flawless ending. Everything came full circle and stayed true to the characters and stayed true to how it would play out in real life. The only thing I've read some different takes on is how Marlo turned out. It was my understanding that he took over that corner at the end after giving up the crown, kind of running thing quietly and behind the scene like Joe did.
I loved the Sydnor/Judge Phelan scene that was right out of the first episode.
Also that cut of Dookie shooting up = pain. It went by so fast that you didn't really have time to tear up, but man, you saw it coming and it still killed.
i dont think marlo took over the corner i think he stays retired...however before he went into that other world where he clearly doesnt belong he wanted to do two things...see if he still had it...as far as on the corner...after all the omar talk about how he wouldnt come in the streets...and he wanted one last taste of that life...hence the metaphor of him literally tasting blood...
one could argue that he lives for blood and no matter what he cant get the taste out of his mouth and that he was going back to the streets but i dont lean that way
as for the dookie scene you knew he was a fiend from two episodes ago when he went into the camp
i like the fact that herc who for the entire show was basically a knucklehead neanderthal finally learns how to play the game
other than that tho it was a pretty perfect way to end an amazing visual novel...pretty sure ill never watch tv again
i thought the michael/omar stuff was a little forced and he was way awful as a new omar in that scene
http://featuresblogs.chicagotribune.com/entertainment_tv/2008/03/the-wire-comes.html
QuoteOriginally posted: March 9, 2008
'The Wire' comes full circle in its gripping finale
The following piece discusses the series finale of "The Wire" (which aired Sunday on HBO). If you're a "Wire" fan, I recommend watching the finale before reading what's below.
An image has been in my mind since I watched the series finale of "The Wire." It's a scene of a character named Dukie preparing to shoot up drugs.
It's only a brief glimpse at Dukie's fate, but it's heartbreaking.
We met Dukie (Jermaine Crawford) and three other eighth-grade boys two years ago, in Season 4 of "The Wire." He was a shy, smart, gawky youth who didn't quite fit in on the tough streets of West Baltimore.
He blossomed when his teacher, a former cop, started giving Dukie clean clothes and soap and showing him how to use a computer. As he gained confidence and shed some of his reticence, it was impossible not to care about Dukie, whose rare smiles were heart piercing.
Dukie's home was shared with drug addicts who resided in a nightmarish row house with no running water. He moved in with Michael (Tristan Wilds), a classmate whose boss was the ruthless drug lord Marlo (Jamie Hector).
As "The Wire's" fifth and final season progressed, I naively hoped that Dukie, who'd dropped out of high school to look after Michael's brother, would make his way out of that grim world. I hoped someone would help him, or that this bright, kind young man would find a way to overcome his severely limited options.
But it wasn't meant to be. Perhaps Dukie never had a choice. And over the series' five unforgettable seasons, "The Wire" has made us look hard at the lives of people who have few choices.
Eventually Dukie was cast out by Michael, who had to cut all ties with friends and family to survive. Dukie wasn't good at selling drugs, so he scratched out a living by scavenging metal and junk from the crumbling buildings of Baltimore.
And as "The Wire's" resident addict, Bubbles (Andre Royo) did back in the day, Dukie started using drugs to numb the pain.
In Dukie's last scene, the camera remained distant. The viewer didn't see the needle piercing Dukie's skin — the wordless scene ended just before that moment. It's almost as if the filmmakers couldn't bring themselves to show the full extent of Dukie's downfall. We only see him preparing the syringe and bringing it up to his arm, but through "The Wire's" unsparing depiction of Bubbles' life, we have a pretty good idea of what Dukie's existence will be from now on: misery.
Dukie may not be real, Bubbles may not be real, but thanks to the show's masterful writing and acting, I won't soon forget them.
"The Wire " illuminated ways of life I've never experienced, and though I wept for Dukie, I thank the show for creating him and dozens of other memorable characters.
We also won't forget Randy (Maestro Harrell), Dukie's classmate, who lived with a foster mom in Season 4 and who demonstrated an entrepreneurial flair (he made pocket money selling snacks to classmates). As we saw earlier on "The Wire," a terrible chain of events left him an angry, perhaps even vicious young man. By Season 5, the sweet, enterprising eighth-grader had been replaced by a menacing thug. And thanks to "The Wire's" meticulous storytelling, we know exactly why.
We won't forget Michael, who supplied the most memorable line of "The Wire's" second-to-last episode. As he was being cast aside by Michael, Dukie tried to get him to recall some silly caper that they'd both been part of only a year or two ago. Didn't he remember? Dukie asked.
"I don't," Michael almost whispered. Was his meager childhood so far away that he truly couldn't remember anything enjoyable? Or was he making himself forget those rare instances of happiness, as a way of armoring himself? Just as Dukie's only choice was to numb the pain, Michael had only one option: To shed any sentiment and become tougher than those who would kill him.
To survive, these young men had to lose what made them human.
And that's what was heartbreaking. Thanks to the show's incisive writing and the brilliant work of the young actors who played Dukie, Randy and Michael, we knew what they were like when they were human, when they were just kids. We knew their quirks and flaws and slender dreams. To see each of them crushed by circumstances outside their control was terrible, but I couldn't look away. This is the stuff that wrenching drama is made of.
Over five seasons, "The Wire" has expanded the possibilities of what television drama can achieve. The finale was as good as the show gets: Tightly plotted and masterfully directed, it was viscerally affecting on a number of levels. And as we saw the fates of various characters unfold in Sunday's 90-minute closer, I kept thinking of a line from "King Lear": "As flies to wanton boys are we to the gods, they kill us for their sport."
That's what Dukie, Randy, Michael and Bubbles were to the gods of Baltimore: Nobodies. Dropouts with only no realistic chances of betterment. All along the way, individuals in positions of power had chances to make altruistic choices that would help people like them, just the powerful had opportunities to improve the police department, make the schools better, govern wisely, etc.
The show doesn't preach or grandstand, but over five seasons, anger at the fate of the Dukies of the world has been the driving force of "The Wire." It has used a meticulously created, fascinating universe to hammer home this point: The powerful, even those who start out with ideals, end up leaving the powerless to their narrow, almost unavoidable fates. Those in power try hard to ignore that fact (if their culpability occurs to them at all) and continue to choose the short-term, selfish path.
Not everyone in "The Wire" was without options. The finale showed various characters taking stands, drawing lines in the sand and refusing to cross them.
Yet most of them paid for their stands. Rebels may evade their ultimate fate for a time, and they're celebrated within the mythology of the show. (Didn't the solo gangster Omar start to seem like a superhero this season? And the show has always had a soft spot for the renegade cop Jimmy McNulty.) But in "The Wire's" Baltimore, nobody escapes the consequences of rebelling. It's only a matter of time before the gods get around to killing the peskiest flies.
Thank goodness the show allowed Bubbles to get clean. I don't know if I could have dealt with him falling "down in the hole" again. He was able to change himself, even if nothing about the streets ever really changes. But he survived, and he's even found a sliver of peace, and that's more than I thought he'd get as the series came to a close. Bubbles' speech before other recovering addicts in the March 2 episode was one of the most emotionally intense moments "The Wire" has ever created (Royo is only one of many amazing actors in this enormously talented cast).
Surprisingly, Det. Kima Greggs (Sonja Sohn) didn't appear to pay a price for exercising her free will and speaking out. She told her bosses that Jimmy McNulty's serial killer was an invention, but by the end of the episode, she was still a "murder police," or a homicide detective.
Then again, maybe she is being punished – she's stuck in the Baltimore version of "Groundhog Day." On "The Wire," it's a place where senseless murders and revenge killings are almost unbearably repetitive. Kima may not have paid a price for telling the bosses about McNulty's illegal scheme, but will her competence at her job change anything in Baltimore? Not likely.
Most everyone else who made a stand was crushed or exiled, as is usually the case on "The Wire." Cedric Daniels (Lance Reddick) finally got the top job at the Baltimore police department, but he refused to prettify the crime statistics for the city's ambitious mayor, Tommy Carcetti (Aiden Gillen). By the end of the final episode, Daniels was gone from the department.
Of course, Bill Rawls (John Doman) landed on his feet. Despite the scandal over McNulty's scheme, Rawls, Daniels' eternal enemy within the police department, was promised a promotion by a mayoral aide if he "did what he was told." He had no problems with that.
QuoteDaniels, on the other hand, was told that his problem was that he failed to do what was told, the same assessment that Michael received from his fellow enforcer, Snoop, in the March 2 episode. Thinking for oneself is frequently punished on "The Wire": Those in power are shown to consistently frown on it.
Michael was always "asking why when you should be doing what you're told," Snoop said – just before Michael shot her.
In the end, Michael's need to think for himself meant that he had to go solo – unless he was willing to fall in line, he'd be the enemy of Marlo's organization. Just as Daniels had become an irritant that the police bureaucracy had to eventually expel.
The fact that brave choices are usually punished within the world of "The Wire" fits with creator David Simon's worldview, which holds that individuals are capable of change, but institutions are not. On "The Wire," the powerful institutions and the individuals who hold the levers of power crush those who don't toe the line.
According to the show, change from within isn't possible — for gangsters, teachers, politicians or anyone else inside a big organization. When it comes to the Baltimore police, the eventual ascension of the political hack Stan Valcheck as commissioner, which was shown in the finale's closing minutes, surely undid anything good that Daniels or his protégés ever accomplished.
In some cases, I disagreed with the withering finality of that assessment — that institutions aren't ever capable of change — but I must credit the show with never wavering from its central assumption: Whatever their original intentions, all power structures or bureaucracies morph into entities that exist to reward the powerful and punish the independent.
Though the series as a whole is a towering achievement, I wasn't a fan of this season's newspaper story line, which wasn't executed with "The Wire's" typical subtlety and understated realism. The show has done a brilliant job of depicting, with savage honesty, what makes big institutions dysfunctional, and nobody can argue with the idea that newspapers are in crisis. But the main cause of that crisis is not reporters who make things up, as Scott Templeton did at the fictional Baltimore Sun. Still, there's been so much media coverage of "The Wire's" journalism angle that it would feel like overkill to dwell on it here.
I wouldn't blame the newspaper story line, however, for the show's low Nielsen ratings this season. If online forums are anything to go by, many hard-core "Wire" fans have been gobbling up the final episodes as they appeared one week early via HBO on Demand. And besides, the show's ratings have always been on the low side. TV viewers are used to happy endings, or at least progress of some kind as a program moves to its end point.
But what's the old saying? "The more things change, the more they remain the same." That was certainly "The Wire's" opinion.
Though the change felt somewhat abrupt, but it was clear "The Wire" was turning Michael into Baltimore's new Omar. The legendary Omar (Michael K. Williams) was a street legend in West Baltimore; he robbed drug dealers but was smart enough not to get caught or killed. In the end, though, he was just as powerless as Dukie. In the show's most shocking moment, he was killed a couple of episodes ago by a corner kid who'd grown up in Marlo's cold, unforgiving world.
Omar's budding superhero status obviously couldn't last. That his life ended so senselessly made sense within the world of "The Wire." As Snoop (Felicia Pearson) said in the finale, "Deserve got nothing to do with it."
Did Namond (Julito McCullum), another eighth-grader in Season 4, "deserve" to end up in a stable, loving home, after being removed from the drug world and adopted by a former top cop, Bunny Colvin? No more than Randy deserved to end up in a brutal group home; no more than Dukie deserved live on the streets.
Perhaps Namond will be the next Bunny Colvin (Robert Wisdom), a smart, eloquent reformer (though Colvin was spit out by the system when his unorthodox views proved troublesome). Dukie sure seems like the next Bubbles. Perhaps the recently promoted Ellis Carver (Seth Gilliam) is the next Cedric Daniels – a smart, honorable man constrained by a system that rewards unquestioning loyalty. And though Marlo's out of the drug game, for now, the mysterious Greek and his minions are still putting heroin and crack on the streets of Baltimore.
ln its closing montage, "The Wire" seemed to say that nothing changes. Those who leave the streets, for whatever reasons, will be replaced by a new generation of dealers, users and cops. But that grim conclusion doesn't begin to convey the depth and compassion of "The Wire."
The show never held back from bearing witness to "the suffering of the world," as the finale's quote from Kafka put it. "The Wire" found humane and empathic and funny ways to tell interesting stories about life, and its creators loved Baltimore, as the finale's many montages made clear.
The dry humor of the people who inhabited that world never failed to make me laugh out loud. I can't quite believe I'll never see my favorite character, Bunk (Wendell Pierce), deliver some hilariously cynical comeback. I'll never see Daniels' glare or Omar's swagger.
From the mayor's office to the police department to the grungiest back alley, "The Wire" showed us people so richly nuanced and detailed and real we wouldn't be surprised to meet them in the street. After five seasons, it's exceedingly hard to let them go.
Jay Landsman (Delaney Williams) gave the eulogy at a mock wake for Jimmy McNulty, who ended up leaving the police force. But Landsman could have been talking about the show itself.
"He learned no lessons, acknowledged no mistakes ... [but] brother, when you were good, you were the best of us."
After all that, I still have a few more favorite quotes and observations to share:
In that closing montage, which I've watched three times now, we saw where many of the show's memorable characters ended up. And there was a big lump in my throat as Bubbles climbed the stairs in his sister's house – his exile in her basement was finally over, even as the song on the soundtrack wailed about those who are "way down in the hole." Dukie may have fallen down into the hole, but at least Bubbs found his way out of it. Oh Herc, you idiot. He did give Marlo's cell number to the Carver (and thus it made its way to Lester Freamon), but he also told Marlo's lawyer that he was pretty sure the police had an illegal wiretap on the number. "I'm just doing what I do," he said when the lawyer praised Herc's ability to get information. Yes, and doing what you do consists of acting like a knucklehead sometimes, Herc. Did you notice "Wire" creator David Simon in a brief shot of the Sun newsroom? I think that was his second cameo (he's also briefly shown as a reporter in Season 2). Jimmy McNulty: "The lie's so big people can't live with it, I guess." This echoes a line from the season premiere – something along the lines of "The bigger the lie, the more people believe it." "The Wire's" given us many memorable lines over the years – but this is not one of them. Bunk to McNulty: "You played with fire, didn't you, and now we're all getting burned." Thud. A show that allows clunkers like that should not be taking potshots at "Dexter," as "The Wire" did last week. Marlo's life away from the drug game didn't last long, did it? He felt uncomfortable at the cocktail party for developers – all he knows is intimidating others and selling drugs. Perhaps his worldview is the most limited of all – despite all the money he has, he has no idea what to do with it and how to live away from the streets. Nobody did the angry glare better than Daniels. And his silent. elevator ride with Jimmy McNulty was a classic "Wire" moment. While remaining perfectly still, Daniels radiated waves of rage. And his parting look at McNulty, along with the words "to be continued..." It's a wonder that McNulty didn't need a stiff drink after that. McNulty to Jay Landsman: "I can't just make [stuff] up, can I?" as Bunk shot McNulty a look of pure irritation. Norman Wilson: "Everyone's getting what they need behind some make-believe." Lester Freamon: "It's a sad business, but at least we know the truth. An incredulous Rhonda Pearlman retorts, "The truth, you say?" Some "Wire" links:
An interview I did with David Simon before the start of Season 5 is here. The minute the finale is over, I'll be heading to Alan Sepinwall's site to read his thoughts and join the discussion. He'll also have a long interview with Simon. Here's a piece on David Simon's remarks about the show at a recent event in LA. Of the many pieces that were written about "The Wire" in recent months, this New Yorker article and CJR piece are among the most informative and interesting. David Simon wrote an essay for Esquire about his years at the Baltimore Sun. Simon and the show's other writers also penned a piece for Time about the war on drugs, which they call "America's most profound and enduring policy failure."
Anyone else a little surprised they didn't have Cutty anywhere in the ending montage? He didn't really have a story to tell so cutting him out of the past couple of episodes was a given, but him training some kids at his gym would have been a good fit.
I rewatched the finale when it aired at 11:30, I love the scene where McNulty gets into the elevator with Daniels.
yeah that was cool...i liked it cause it was a direct homage to the first episode where they had the elevator scene shown via the closed circuit camera
The homage they showed towards the first season were well done, like the kids throwing rocks at the community watch camera box.
Found this quoted on the HBO boards but I'm not sure of its source:
QuoteMarlo's is obviously uncomfortable with the suits at the party and excuses himself to the "bathroom." Of course he
just leaves entirely. Marlo stumbles out onto the streets on to some hoppers. He's having a little identity crisis here and asks the little ****s if they know who he is? They try and jack Marlo up and without even thinking Marlo's instinct has him react and he jacks up the two kids. Then he proceeds to taste his own blood and realizes that the game is truly "in his blood" pardon the punn. Marlo was not made to be a suit, he's a gangster for life. That's all this scene was saying. We can assume that Marlo returns to the streets where he belongs.
i never saw any seasons before this one and that's exactly what i thought that scene was all about
thats what i said above was one way of looking at it...but i disagree...he wouldnt have went to a random corner if he wasnt getting back in...he would went and got the connect back...
i think he goes to the corner to show that he still can go on the streets and handle himself...that what omar said about him wasnt true...remember the jailhouse blow up when he heard about omar calling him a bitch...i think one last time before he went into the suit and tie world he wanted to prove he still had it
Quote from: SD_Eagle on March 10, 2008, 10:01:38 AM
The homage they showed towards the first season were well done, like the kids throwing rocks at the community watch camera box.
definitely. i don't know if anyone else noticed this but the part with sydnor and the judge (forget his name) is basically mcnulty sitting there in from season 1. kind of alluding that this whole thing is just going to be a cycle with different people.
Quote from: phattymatty on March 10, 2008, 10:39:14 AM
Quote from: SD_Eagle on March 10, 2008, 10:01:38 AM
The homage they showed towards the first season were well done, like the kids throwing rocks at the community watch camera box.
definitely. i don't know if anyone else noticed this but the part with sydnor and the judge (forget his name) is basically mcnulty sitting there in from season 1. kind of alluding that this whole thing is just going to be a cycle with different people.
I think mds alluded to that a few pages ago but that connection/scene was great.
snoop is on wip
you always was a smart motherfarger
you look good girl.
Quote from: ice grillin you on March 10, 2008, 10:15:36 AM
thats what i said above was one way of looking at it...but i disagree...he wouldnt have went to a random corner if he wasnt getting back in...he would went and got the connect back...
i think he goes to the corner to show that he still can go on the streets and handle himself...that what omar said about him wasnt true...remember the jailhouse blow up when he heard about omar calling him a bitch...i think one last time before he went into the suit and tie world he wanted to prove he still had it
the first thing they showed in the montage was a corner with spider on it. i believe that is the same corner marlo took over, his corner, and he is building himself back up. but even if he is the next stringer or the next joe, his fate is already sealed. his isolated, alone and will undoubtedly die the same way those cats went out.
BTW, i loved Slim poppin Cheese midsentence. Classic TV. And Slim and the big dude as the next guys taking the product from the Greeks was great.
The ending montage with Chris in the yard chilling with Wee-Bey was a good part. The only thing i wanted to see was what was happening with Avon?
yeah i'm def. a little disappointed that avon wasn't a bigger part of this year. the teasers early on made me think he was going to be on a lot. but with only 10 episodes i guess there's not a whole lot of reason to have him back.
Quote from: MDS on March 10, 2008, 12:04:53 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on March 10, 2008, 10:15:36 AM
thats what i said above was one way of looking at it...but i disagree...he wouldnt have went to a random corner if he wasnt getting back in...he would went and got the connect back...
i think he goes to the corner to show that he still can go on the streets and handle himself...that what omar said about him wasnt true...remember the jailhouse blow up when he heard about omar calling him a bitch...i think one last time before he went into the suit and tie world he wanted to prove he still had it
the first thing they showed in the montage was a corner with spider on it. i believe that is the same corner marlo took over, his corner, and he is building himself back up. but even if he is the next stringer or the next joe, his fate is already sealed. his isolated, alone and will undoubtedly die the same way those cats went out.
the same doods are gonna have the same corners with or without marlo..same tale different head essentially...im just not buying him going down to take over a meaningless westside corner in his suit and tie if hes getting back in the game...if that were the case the montage would have showed marlo meeting with the greeks not slim...cause thats how he would have come back...not messing with some no name corner boys...hes way above that
Quote from: ice grillin you on March 10, 2008, 12:13:19 PM
Quote from: MDS on March 10, 2008, 12:04:53 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on March 10, 2008, 10:15:36 AM
thats what i said above was one way of looking at it...but i disagree...he wouldnt have went to a random corner if he wasnt getting back in...he would went and got the connect back...
i think he goes to the corner to show that he still can go on the streets and handle himself...that what omar said about him wasnt true...remember the jailhouse blow up when he heard about omar calling him a bitch...i think one last time before he went into the suit and tie world he wanted to prove he still had it
the first thing they showed in the montage was a corner with spider on it. i believe that is the same corner marlo took over, his corner, and he is building himself back up. but even if he is the next stringer or the next joe, his fate is already sealed. his isolated, alone and will undoubtedly die the same way those cats went out.
the same doods are gonna have the same corners with or without marlo..same tale different head essentially...im just not buying him going down to take over a meaningless westside corner in his suit and tie if hes getting back in the game...if that were the case the montage would have showed marlo meeting with the greeks not slim...cause thats how he would have come back...not messing with some no name corner boys...hes way above that
I just think it was him trying to prove that he comes down to the street, and to see if people respect him. Obviously things changed quick when he was gone, and he took it as a lesson that even though he's street, he'll move on.
damn...i missed the finale.
did ricky get the 700 on his sat's so he could play at usc???
i think there's a lot that's going on in the marlo street corner scene. you guys hit on a lot of it but also, he's been on the show for over two and half seasons and yet you never saw him do anything physical. sometimes you wondered why everyone took orders and was so scared of him. his tough side has only come out in the last few episodes and even then, just glimpses.
Quote from: hunt on March 10, 2008, 12:21:01 PM
damn...i missed the finale.
did ricky get the 700 on his sat's so he could play at usc???
Took me a second and then. . .
:-D
tvtattle.com has a large collection of wire articles about the finale, including some top 10 lists about moments from the series. which is impossible to do considering the show is one giant top 10 lists (i.e. the farg scene > where wallace or how far we done fell > stringers death doesnt compute).
you cant have a top ten without the jailhouse scene bwtn ziggy and his dad...in fact that might be number 1
simon love letter to the fans.....
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A last thank you to those HBO sunscirbers who took the time and care to accompany us on this journey. The Wire arrived, six years ago, to little fanfare and modest expectation. It demanded from viewers a delicate, patient consideration and a ridiculous degree of attention to detail.
It wasn't for everyone. We proved that rather quickly.
But episode to episode, you began to understand that we were committed to creating something careful and ornate, something that might resonate. You took Lester Freamon at his word: That we were building something here and all the pieces matter.
When we took a chainsaw to the first season, choosing to begin the second-story arc with an entirely different theme and different characters, you followed us to the port and our elegy for America's working class. When we shifted again, taking up the political culture of our mythical city in season three, you remained loyal. And when we ended the Barksdale arc and began an exploration of public education, you were, by that time, we hope, elated to understand that whatever else might happen, The Wire would not waste your time telling the same story twice.
This year, our drama asked its last thematic question: Why, if there is any truth to anything presented in The Wire over the last four seasons, does that truth go unaddressed by our political culture, by most of our mass media, and by our society in general?
We've given our answer:
We are a culture without the will to seriously examine our own problems. We eschew that which is complex, contradictory or confusing. As a culture, we seek simple solutions. We enjoy being provoked and titillated, but resist the rigorous, painstaking examination of issues that might, in the end, bring us to the point of recognizing our problems, which is the essential first step to solving any of them.
The Wire is fiction. Many of the events depicted over the last five seasons did not, to our knowledge, happen. Fewer happened in the exact manner described. Fiction is fiction, and it should in no way be confused with journalism.
But it is also fair to note that the problems themselves — politicians cooking crime stats for higher office, school administrators teaching test questions to vindicate No Child Left Behind, sensitive prosecutions and investigations being undercut for political motives, brutal drug wars fought amid a police department's ignorance of and indifference to the forces involved -- were indeed problems in the recent history of the actual Baltimore, Maryland.
Few of these matters received the serious attention — or, in some cases — any attention from the media. These problems exist in plain sight, ready to be addressed by anyone seriously committed to doing so. For those of us writing The Wire, a television drama, story research involved dragging the right police lieutenants or school teachers, prosecutors and political functionaries to neighborhood diners and bars and taking story notes down on cocktail napkins and paper placemats. To be more precise with their tales? To record it and relay it in a manner that can stand as non-fiction truthtelling? Yes, that's harder to do. But there was a time when journalism regarded that kind of coverage as its highest mission. The true stories that The Wire traded in are out there, waiting for anyone willing to take the time. And it is, of course, vaguely disturbing to us that our unlikely little television drama is making arguments that were once the prerogative of more serious mediums.
We tried to be entertaining, but in no way did we want to be mistaken for entertainment. We tried to provoke, to critique and debate and rant a bit. We wanted an argument. We think a few good arguments are needed still, that there is much more to be said and it is entirely likely that there are better ideas than the ones we offered. But nothing happens unless the shtein is stirred. That, for us, was job one.
If you followed us for sixty hours, and you find yourself caring about these issues more than you thought you would, then perhaps the next step is to engage and to demand, where possible, a more sophisticated and meaningful response from authority when it comes to such things as the drug war, educational reform or responsible political leadership. The Wire is about the America we pay for and tolerate. Perhaps it is possible to pay for, and demand, something more.
Again, accept our sincere thanks for making the commitment to watch a show as improbable and problematic as ours and for considering the arguments and issues seriously. We are surprised as you are to be here at the end, on our own terms, still standing. As a cast and crew, we're proud. But the credit is not all ours. It's yours as well for believing, year after year, in this story.
David Simon
Baltimore, Md.
March 10, 2008
he's from Baltimore? i had no idea.
the following is entertainment weeklys top 15 wire moments....i tried to find youtubes for them all but couldnt...
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Season 1 Episode 3- Chess scene between D'Angelo, Wallace and Bodie. All truly pawns in the end.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1PAOKCQghX4
Season 1 Episode 4- The "f*ck" scene where Bunk and McNulty investigate a crime scene using variations on only one word.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KQbsnSVM1zM
Season 1 Episode 12- Poot and Bodie kill Wallace. IF you weren't sold on this show after this moment, you were never going to.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hor_gOBU_GU
Season 2 Episode 11- Frank Sobotka walking to his death. Awesome music in the scene, which appears on the soundtrack.
Season 2 Episode 12- The final montage from this season might have been the best of all of them. Steve Earle's I Feel Alright is the music.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iOmx9y4GHgg
Season 3 Episode 11- Omar and Brother Mouzone's wild-west style showdown in an alley.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=20G17K_0ghU
Season 3 Episode 11- Stringer and Avon's balcony farewell, each knowing that they were setting the other one up to fall.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E80qYE2u_7w
Season 3 Episode 11- Omar and Brother Mouzone kill Stringer.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TqbxZG6FMeI
Season 4 Episode 8- Snoop and Chris talking about Baltimore club music, as they try to scare off NY dealers down in Baltimore.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g_VS3aj2zXg
Season 4 Episode 9- Bunny takes Namond and company to Ruth's Chris.
Season 4 Episode 11- Randy yelling down the hall at Sgt. Carver.
Season 4 Episode 12- Dukie giving Mr. Prezbo a gift.
Season 4 Episode 12- Bodie and McNulty's garden lunch/ Bodie's death.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y0PMyOBF4Ps
Season 5 Episode 9- Michael kills Snoop.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w0cEv_C8JAw
Season 5 Episode 9- Bubbles' anniversary speech at his NA meeting.
theres some id take off and a few id add...the following three must be on the list...
kima getting shot is an all time television moment
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KB6joCuaJDQ
nick and prissy reminicing about ziggy
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CqxSJJqgnBk
as i mentioned previously the ziggy frank jailhouse scene is as tough as it gets...when frank sees his scared to death pusssie ass 110 lb weekling son going into prison for the rest of his life...wow real shtein....unfortunately i cant find a youtube for it
We wanted an argument i now know why Havas loved Simon so much
if you dont debate you dont think....say word
I always love the scene where Omar goes to prision, and the guy who looks like a Goomba from Mario Brothers walks up to Omar and gives him a phonebook and a bunch of books to protect himself from shanks.
Quote from: Seabiscuit36 on March 11, 2008, 10:10:52 AM
I always love the scene where Omar goes to prision, and the guy who looks like a Goomba from Mario Brothers walks up to Omar and gives him a phonebook and a bunch of books to protect himself from shanks.
yeah thats a great scene....its not a youtube but here it is.....
(http://www.philaflava.com/forum/images/smiles/omar.gif) (http://www.philaflava.com/forum/images/smiles/johnnycakes010rc.gif)
Quote from: ice grillin you on March 11, 2008, 10:26:53 AM
Quote from: Seabiscuit36 on March 11, 2008, 10:10:52 AM
I always love the scene where Omar goes to prision, and the guy who looks like a Goomba from Mario Brothers walks up to Omar and gives him a phonebook and a bunch of books to protect himself from shanks.
yeah thats a great scene....its not a youtube but here it is.....
(http://www.philaflava.com/forum/images/smiles/omar.gif) (http://www.philaflava.com/forum/images/smiles/johnnycakes010rc.gif)
lol... It was one of those scenes where i never thought that you could protect yourself from gettin shanked. Whats your Philaflava name?
clark bent
alan sepinwall of the star ledger lists his top wire moments
http://blog.nj.com/alltv/2008/03/sepinwall_on_tv_the_wire_unplu.html
Sepinwall is the shtein.
I just got on Philaflava, got some great cd's i have to download now.
i dont post much on there cause i hate new hip-hop and everything that needs to be said about the golden age already has but its a great board
Quote from: ice grillin you on March 11, 2008, 10:41:40 AM
i dont post much on there cause i hate new hip-hop and everything that needs to be said about the golden age already has but its a great board
yeah, i went into the Slept on album and put up some that i like, and found some great ones on there, i have like 15 cd's i have waiting to DL when i get home
Quote from: Seabiscuit36 on March 11, 2008, 10:10:52 AM
I always love the scene where Omar goes to prision, and the guy who looks like a Goomba from Mario Brothers walks up to Omar and gives him a phonebook and a bunch of books to protect himself from shanks.
That was a great scene and one I forgot all about.
Two great scenes from this past season were when McNulty got into the elevator with Daniels in the finale. Also when the psychologist is explaining the characteristics of the serial killer and he's describing McNulty. There are so many subtle smaller scenes that get overlooked that its almost impossible to pick just 10.
Quote from: Seabiscuit36 on March 11, 2008, 10:46:13 AM
Quote from: ice grillin you on March 11, 2008, 10:41:40 AM
i dont post much on there cause i hate new hip-hop and everything that needs to be said about the golden age already has but its a great board
yeah, i went into the Slept on album and put up some that i like, and found some great ones on there, i have like 15 cd's i have waiting to DL when i get home
oh shtein it will be incredible for you then...go on the troy board...they post some amazing shtein on there
Quote from: SD_Eagle on March 11, 2008, 10:47:28 AM
Quote from: Seabiscuit36 on March 11, 2008, 10:10:52 AM
I always love the scene where Omar goes to prision, and the guy who looks like a Goomba from Mario Brothers walks up to Omar and gives him a phonebook and a bunch of books to protect himself from shanks.
That was a great scene and one I forgot all about.
Two great scenes from this past season were when McNulty got into the elevator with Daniels in the finale. Also when the psychologist is explaining the characteristics of the serial killer and he's describing McNulty. There are so many subtle smaller scenes that get overlooked that its almost impossible to pick just 10.
so true...one of the great things about the show was how funny it was for being so miserable...murder...drugs...corruption...unemployment...ect...yet it was hilarious
some of my favorites
herc asking Spider where he gets the hats that go sideways....really anything with herc carver and fuzzy
bodie riding up to philly and making the comment that he didn't know they have different radio stations once you leave baltimore.....so funny and so poingnant at the same time....classic
obviously not funny but namonds mom calling him a bitch for not going to baby booking was a great as well
how about the first scene ever for the series? "you got to, this america man" pretty much summed up the entire show.
also i didnt notice at first but the scene bunk and kima investigate at the end (bunk repeats "givin a farg when it aint your turn to give a farg") is the same place gant got shot in the pilot, the guy who fingered d'angelo in the murder.
Quote from: MDS on March 11, 2008, 01:11:46 PM
how about the first scene ever for the series? "you got to, this america man" pretty much summed up the entire show.
its a true story from the homocide book and its done much better in there
My all time favorite scene was when those 3 teenage kids busted down dooks door and shot him in the groin.
Quote from: SD_Eagle on March 11, 2008, 01:28:28 PM
My all time favorite scene was when those 3 teenage kids busted down dooks door and shot him in the groin.
was that the one where Pookie was?
Quote from: Seabiscuit36 on March 11, 2008, 01:43:14 PM
Quote from: SD_Eagle on March 11, 2008, 01:28:28 PM
My all time favorite scene was when those 3 teenage kids busted down dooks door and shot him in the groin.
was that the one where Pookie was?
Did pookie wear #21?
lol....I was thinking of when Omar robbed one of the reup houses and pook was on the phone
how bout the very sight of namond in the throwback rome jersey.
1.8 mil watched the finale. really mediocre numbers but who cares.
bunk and kima apparently "secured financing" to do a movie, but simon isnt on board. yet. he said hell do if theres an idea for one, and right now he doesnt have an idea. would probably have to be a prequel, not sure whats left to do now.
slate chimes in with their favorite wire scenes http://www.slate.com/id/2181449/entry/2186238/
1) Omar testifying in Season 2, and making a fool of Maury Levy. "I got the shotgun; you got the briefcase."
2) Bunny Colvin taking Namond and the other kids out to a fancy restaurant, in Season 4.
3) Cutty telling Avon he wants out: "The game ain't in me no more. None of it."
4) Kima's ghetto version of Goodnight Moon at the end of Episode 7 a few weeks ago.
5) Omar and crew's fabulous heist near the end of Season 4, followed by Omar's selling the drugs back to Prop Joe.
6) Bodie and Jimmy's meet in the garden at the end of Season 4, just before Bodie's murder, when Bodie gives his "This game is rigged" speech. Bodie says, "I feel like the little bitches on the chessboard," and Jimmy murmurs, "Pawns."
7) Snoop buying the nail gun in the opening scene of Season 4.
8) Stringer Bell's funeral-home meetings in Season 3, particularly his efforts to enforce Robert's Rules of Order. "Do the chair know we gonna look like some punk-ass bitches out there?"
9) Bunny persuading Wee-Bey to let him adopt Namond at the end of Season 4.
10) All of Hamsterdam.
11) Stringer and Avon looking over the Baltimore skyline, reminiscing about their good old days, each knowing that he just had betrayed the other.
12) Carver sitting in his car, punching his steering wheel, after dropping Randy at the group home.
13) Bunk and Jimmy solving a murder with just the word farg.
where's wallace?
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB120546175981035727.html
WSJ ruminates on the Wire, Baltimore city failure, etc.
Worth the read even if you disagree
I've seen Goodfellas at least 100x but haven't seen it since I've been watching the Wire. It was on this afternoon. In the scene when Henry is coked up and goes to pick up his brother in the wheelchair from the hospital the Doc that checks him out is Clay Davis.
An actor on the Baltimore-based HBO series "The Wire" was stabbed in the chest and buttocks during a melee early yesterday at a social hall in Overlea.
About 2 a.m., Baltimore County police rushed to Overlea Caterers Inc., in the 6800 block of Belair Road, and used pepper spray to disperse a crowd of about 30 people, several of whom were fighting, a police spokesman said.
After the fight was over, police officers discovered that Christopher J. Clanton, 22, had been stabbed. Clanton, who played a recurring character on "The Wire," was taken to Johns Hopkins Bayview Medical Center by ambulance, authorities said.
Clanton played Savino Bratton, a recurring character in "The Wire" who appeared in nine episodes in the first and fifth seasons.
didnt omar kill sevino in the episode before he died
yeah...life imitating art or some shtein
Quote from: MDS on March 24, 2008, 10:20:11 PM
didnt omar kill sevino in the episode before he died
yup
it was cool how savino was in season one and then not again until late in season five
top 25 wire characters
http://blogcritics.org/archives/2008/04/14/214419.php#TheWireHBO
25. Jay Landsman
24. Frank Sobotka
23. Dennis "Cutty" Wise
22. Nick Sobotka
21. Clay Davis
20. Wallace
19. Randy Wagstaff
18. Tommy Carcetti
17. Felicia "Snoop" Pearson
16. Avon Barksdale
15. D'Angelo Barksdale
14. Marlo Stanfield
13. Ellis Carver
12. Preston "Bodie" Broadus
11. Roland "Prez" Presbylewski
10. Reginald "Bubbles" Cousins
9. Cedric Daniels
8. Shakima "Kima" Greggs
7. Michael Lee
6. Duquan "Dukie" Weems
5. William "Bunk" Moreland
4. Jimmy McNulty
3. Russell "Stringer" Bell
2. Lester Freamon
1. Omar Little
Quote from: ice grillin you on March 12, 2008, 08:15:04 AM
13) Bunk and Jimmy solving a murder with just the word farg.
The one reason why I never bothered watching a second episode.
Michael is going to be on the new 90210 spinoff. I believe he is playing the Jason Priestly role.
Quote from: MDS on May 03, 2008, 01:24:06 PM
Michael is going to be on the new 90210 spinoff. I believe he is playing the Jason Priestly role.
this is the stillupfront remake of 90210 on BET right?
no its the cracker remake on the cw.
I just got season 4
54.99 at Best Buy.
I foresee a weekend of gorging on my favorite on screen characters ever..
you should have been abkle to find that on the net for easily under 40 bucks...anyway...
i got a 14 hr train ride tomorrow 8-9 hrs of which will be watching the wire
it was an impulse buy...I've been holding out so long, today I just snapped and went consumer crazee
5 season dvd planned for winter
plus the wire is on the top 10 emmy list for best drama
watch its worst year win
doubtful it will win, but making it this far is a complete shock
david simon is hoping to do a movie about the real life omar and how he got married to the main woman from the corner.
also generation kill starts sunday.
and simon turned in a revised pilot script to his show about new orleans. that could make it to series.
and he was working a miniseries with bill zorzi about desegregation efforts.
holla.
we should all aspire to one day be david simon
or at least Omar
such a good blog if youre a hardcore wire fan....this entry is particularly good...
http://blogs.suntimes.com/scanners/2008/07/walking_into_the_wire.html
5-0 went to Snoop's crib to get her to snitch about a body bein dropped and found some chronic and arrested her.
so michael is one of the main characters on the new 90210 show. it's depressing.
there's a few of these guys on heroes
black people?
the guy who sang the theme song for season 5 is the guy who played bubbles' NA sponsor. just learned that.
you've never heard of Steve Earle?
Quote from: phattymatty on December 10, 2008, 01:23:47 PM
the guy who sang the theme song for season 5 is the guy who played bubbles' NA sponsor. just learned that.
Every version of 'Down in the hole' after season 1 was pretty awful. Season 5's being the worst.
Quote from: SD_Eagle on December 11, 2008, 07:04:35 AM
Quote from: phattymatty on December 10, 2008, 01:23:47 PM
the guy who sang the theme song for season 5 is the guy who played bubbles' NA sponsor. just learned that.
Every version of 'Down in the hole' after season 1 was pretty awful. Season 5's being the worst.
real talk
agreed.
and no, never heard of that guy.
Huh. I knew it was him the first time I saw him on screen, well before season 5 had his version.
ive heard of him because he worships bruce springsteen but i couldnt pick him out of lineup with the supremes
I doubt you'd like his work. Outlaw/alt country folk rock stuff. He's been making very good to great albums for decades. Mega drug addict for years. I mean, this guy did more drugs than everyone on this board combined probably five times over. In his prime, he made Keith Richards look like an amateur.
You would love his politics.
yeah i remember he came out with a post 911 album around the same time as the rising...he had some controversial song about john walker lindh i remember...sounded interesting but i was always to lazy or not motivated enough to actually make the effort to listen to his stuff
I'll let you know when he makes a hip hop album
i dont listen to new hip-hop....lemme know when he makes a hip-hop album in 1993
sure thing yo boy
stop
aww, so cute
this is so awesome....sick video montage of all 5 wire seasons backed by dope ass rhymes from madd skillz
im sure no one is but if by chance you still plan on ever watching this show then DO NOT watch this video as they basically reveal everything
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZExR3mpv6_k
I finished season five two nights ago.
One question I have: Why do they bother to take the time to show Rawls at the gay bar (season three or four, I forget which), and then never develop that story line at all?
Quote from: Diomedes on January 09, 2009, 05:03:47 PM
I finished season five two nights ago.
One question I have: Why do they bother to take the time to show Rawls at the gay bar (season three or four, I forget which), and then never develop that story line at all?
Not sure, but he was such a fleshpop that showing him in some trashy gay bar was an easy way to feel justification over hating his character from a fans perspective.
I honestly didn't hate any character through the whole series. I can't even say I disliked any of them. They just were. Rawls for example made me laugh just about every time he opened his acidic mouth. He was great as the ballbuster, I enjoyed just about every scene he was in.
imo for two reasons....to break stereotypes and a little bit of irony
rawls is the nastiest hardest commanding officer on the show and by showing that he is gay it breaks the all gays are feminine stereotype
and if you notice rawls thruout the show used lots of gay references when berating subordinates
Quote from: Diomedes on January 09, 2009, 05:09:19 PM
I honestly didn't hate any character through the whole series. I can't even say I disliked any of them. They just were. Rawls for example made me laugh just about every time he opened his acidic mouth. He was great as the ballbuster, I enjoyed just about every scene he was in.
totally agree...its what made the wire the GOAT...the line btwn who was good and who was bad was very thin and as a viewer you found yourself crossing the line all the time and rooting for the bad guys and hating the good guys...rawls was one of my favorite characters...some of the best scenes in the whole show is him going off on mcnulty...shtein it started in season 1 ep 1 when he got on him for going to phelan
also i can off the top of my head recall what episode it was but there one scene in a bathroom in the homocide office where they show some grafitti on the wall and it says "rawls sucks cock" and i think its mcnulty who just starts laughing...so you kinda know everyone else kinda knows
Quote from: ice grillin you on January 09, 2009, 05:10:12 PM
imo for two reasons....to break stereotypes and a little bit of irony
rawls is the nastiest hardest commanding officer on the show and by showing that he is gay it breaks the all gays are feminine stereotype
and if you notice rawls thruout the show used lots of gay references when berating subordinates
I get all that, but it came off to me like it was a story line that got cut out of later episodes. I was fully expecting Carcetti's white guy assistant--I never got his name--to tell Rawls that his secret would be outed if he did not agree to keep quiet about the serial killer sham. Instead, he offered him the head of the State Police job when/if Carcetti gets elected governor.
basically all of that
and to revisit the gay thing would be cheap and television like. they already did the whole gay discussion with kima and omar, would have just re-hashed the same shtein if everyone knew rawls was a flamer.
but on top of that john doman was in the top 3 for actors for that show. his "this isnt on you" speech to mcnulty in season one was unreal.
Quote from: ice grillin you on January 09, 2009, 05:14:37 PMalso i can off the top of my head recall what episode it was but there one scene in a bathroom in the homocide office where they show some grafitti on the wall and it says "rawls sucks cock" and i think its mcnulty who just starts laughing...so you kinda know everyone else kinda knows
I remember that too. But I find it hard to believe that the Deputy Ops could be gay...no way in real life a homo makes it that high in such a machismo obsessed culture, regardless how much of a hardass he is.
a signature of simons storytelling during the wire was to abruptly stop...not finish...or in the case of rawls sexuality not even starting story lines...that way its more real life like and like mds said less like a cliched tv show...sometimes things just are and dont need to be spoken on or overly explained
Quote from: Diomedes on January 09, 2009, 05:17:29 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on January 09, 2009, 05:14:37 PMalso i can off the top of my head recall what episode it was but there one scene in a bathroom in the homocide office where they show some grafitti on the wall and it says "rawls sucks cock" and i think its mcnulty who just starts laughing...so you kinda know everyone else kinda knows
I remember that too. But I find it hard to believe that the Deputy Ops could be gay...no way in real life a homo makes it that high in such a machismo obsessed culture, regardless how much of a hardass he is.
i disagree and i think simon does as well...and him showing rawls is another way to break that sterotype...imo during the years he spent inside the bmore homocide division he came a across a higher up who he confirmed or at least highly suspected was gay and thats why it was included in the show
most likely
really the only thing simon kept in the mix for pure entertainment factor was omar. in real life, omar did his thing then was in jail. when he got out he cleaned up and wound up in the show. he easily could have died in season one, too, but the character was just unbelievable that they had to keep him around.
the thing that made it work was omar routinely didnt show up into a few episodes into the season, which basically amounted to him spending a lot of time laying low which could help him stay alive for all that time.
Sheila Dixon was indicted on 12 counts of corruption today.
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she aint got nothin on nareese
get yours stringer
Idris Elba has been cast on "The Office" as a new rival to Dunder Mifflin regional manager Michael Scott (Steve Carell).
Elba, most recently seen in Guy Ritchie's "Rocknrolla," will appear in six episodes later this season. Details are slim on his plot line, other than he'll play a no-nonsense hire at Dunder Mifflin's corporate office who will throw Michael Scott into turmoil.
they kick off beadie and bring on stringer.
He's one of those actors I'll always have trouble seperating from Stringer, he was just too good in that role. Larry Gillard Jr. aka D is in that new series the Beast with Patrick Swayze.
that show was the textbook definition of mediocre
also got the 5 season dvd box set. now my most prized possession.
sorry if this is a re post
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k8E8xBXFLKE
Simon speaking at USC, an hour and twenty minutes or so.
I had on Baltimore Fox 45 and Ed Norris (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ed_Norris) was on there this morning talking about a lawsuit against the police. It still amazes me how Simon was able to cast people so easily for the parts.
Would that lawsuit be the case of the special attack police force that randomly stopped and conducted a rectal search of an innocent man in full view of dozens of witnesses in the middle of the street?
Or a different case in which the cops acted like Colicchio on a steroid fueled beserk?
the rectal search. sounds like a good day if your Hbionic
how good was the wire....its almost sickening when you really sit down and think about it
I started watching this finally.
I am 3 episodes into Season One and already hooked.
envious
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on February 10, 2009, 11:37:55 AM
I started watching this finally.
I am 3 episodes into Season One and already hooked.
I watched the first two episodes at night, then woke up early the next morning to watch the next two. crack.
i would take 20 years off my life to be phreak for the next two weeks
yea aint nothin like jumpin into this show. goat 4 a reason.
Some douche on FP swears The Shield is better than The Wire... Cracker from TN
Quote from: ice grillin you on February 10, 2009, 01:08:13 PM
i would take 20 years off my life to be phreak for the next two weeks
I'm tellin ya...I just got done episode 4. The cat who builds the mini-furniture is smoooooth. Lester sits back and lets everyone else bullshtein and he goes and gets answers.
he's the Wire's version of MURP
but he doesnt go for your nuts on first greeting
Episode 5 may have been the best so far....man, this show is addicting.
wait until you get to 'come at the king you best not miss' ep (8 i believe) and ep's 10 & 11 which are just staggeringly good
just watched ep 1 last nite. my journey has begun.
i hate both of you
savor this time dont take it for granted and dont forget the feelings you will have over the next couple weeks because you will never experience it again watching a tv show
it can be a real pleasure to gorge on three or four new episodes in a row, but once you've seen 'em, you've seen 'em. the show stands up to re-watching better than any I've ever watched, but nothing is like the first time through
pace yourself as much as possible and you'll be rewarded for the delayed gratification with a long passionate love affair instead of an aggressive farg one night stand
its an absolute must to re watch it at least three or four times minimum...ive watched the first four seasons in full over 10 times and i still see new stuff
to late for phreak but sun if i were you id watch each episode twice before you move to the next one...and i also would watch them all as fast as possible...dont take a weekend or week off bwtn eps...those are two things i wish i could have done when i first watched the show and if i had to do it over i would have waited until all seasons were out on dvd before watching any of it
i'm not going to watch each episode twice...but i'm going to try to bang out at least one a night...probably do a bunch of saturday.
People catchin feelings over a TV show. Relish these moments. SunMo, you'll never feel this way again.
Kill yourselves.
philistine
I'm doing one a night.
I like how Simon used some of the names of the real detectives from his book. Must be a thrill for those guys to be immortalized like that in a TV show.
Add in the fact that its a great series to my love for following book characters and this is heaven.
a few of them are actually in the show as well
one thing youll realize after watching is that the show is not about the wire or drugs or police or politics or schools...the show is about baltimore...thats the central character
it's even larger than that
Well shtein...I finished off Season One last night. I was up until 5am...no joke whoever said the show was like crack. I could not go to bed because it kept getting better and better with each episode.
I won't get too much into specifics since Sun and SD haven't seen it all the way through yet, but this series was put together great.
I noticed that George Pelecanos helped with the show too; he's a pretty good crime author out of DC.
Richard Price also wrote for the show from time to time.
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on February 15, 2009, 01:58:15 PM
I won't get too much into specifics since Sun and SD haven't seen it all the way through yet, but this series was put together great.
I've seen every episode and have watched season 1 twice. Sun on the other hand is a cherry.
That dude Sydnor looks like Igoudala.
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got done episode 5 last night...mcnulty and griggs talking to omar for the first time, the pager clone, and possibly cracking the code...not sure if that was for real or not...good shtein so far
Cherish these moments, Sun.
i rubbed my balls all last night
Quote from: rjs246 on February 17, 2009, 12:07:18 PM
Cherish these moments, Sun.
Indeed. When they're gone, they're gone man.
i was actually watching women's bowling with the wire on in my picture-in-picture
so, i finished the 12 episodes that HBO has on demand for season 1, and it didn't feel complete...i just checked and realized that there are 13 eps in season 1...WTF
complaining on an internet message board will solve that problem
you could post that sarcastic remark after every post on this board
but i love you and want to single you out
johnny boy dont you see?
if you love me...send me episode 13
Yeah, you got shafted there...13 is the lock down sew everything up one.
I started Season Two the other day. I've watched the first two and I thought it started slow. But then again, I am so used to seeing the same people from the first season in their roles and to have it switched up and new people introduced its takin me a minute to get used to it.
yeah i was a little skeptical through the first 2 or 3 episodes of season 2 but it gets really good once they're done setting up characters.
Matty on point...
I finished up 3-4-5 the past two days and it's awesome. The characters are set and I'm hooked like usual. I love that they got the crew back together.
every season starts slow in the wire...its why a lot of people dont like it....its more like a great novel than a great tv show as it takes it time in setting up its stories...not a ton of character development in the show but its plot development is incredibly detailed
season two imo is the one that gets better with time...its my second favorite season right behind four
Season four is the pinnacle, agreed. But after that I have a hard time sorting which of the remainders I prefer. Season five would probably lead a fan poll as the worst, but I think it's sublime.
the way ill never watch another tv drama again because of the wires greatness is the same way ill never watch season 5 again because of 1-4's greatness
its still better than any other tv show but its so inferiror to 1-4 that i cant do it
1-4 are all on the same level and you can make an argument for them being in any order but i put them like this
4, 2, 1, 3
5
oh boy I disagree
did you watch the Simon presentation at USC that I linked a while back? def. put season 5 in a different light for me
yeah i watched it...his views on the newspaper industry have been well known for years going all the way back to the mid 90's stemming from his baltimore sun blow out...that actually was one of my problems with season 5...his personal agenda and bitterness drove too much of the show and the result of that was the often ludicrous over the top serial killer plot line just to prove a point
oh, it was ludicrous, no question. that was the point, though...it was ludicrous because the system being described is unbelievable
for four years he depicted big city institutions in an incredibly realistic and honest way and then season five he starts hyperbolizing to the point of being unrealistic...i hated it...it wasnt simon it wasnt the wire....because all he wanted to do was slam the sun and he did it at the expenses of the show imo
yeah, I get what you're saying
I disagree
4, 1, 3, 2,
5
5 isnt as good but its not on the level of awfulness igy describes.
nm
Quote from: MDS on February 23, 2009, 11:58:28 AM
4, 1, 3, 2,
5
5 isnt as good but its not on the level of awfulness igy describes.
Agreed on your order, disagree on 5, it was awful and igy is spot on.
to clarify season 5 is awful only compared to seasons 1-4 of the wire
season 5 wire >>> any season of any other tv show ever
because the wire is so good i could never watch another tv drama for the rest of time...but in the same manner because season 5 is so far below the first four seasons id have a hard time watching it again
Quote from: ice grillin you on February 23, 2009, 01:52:32 PM
to clarify season 5 is awful only compared to seasons 1-4 of the wire
season 5 wire >>> any season of any other tv show ever
I swear to Dio's God I was gonna go back and edit my last post because I knew this post was coming. Yes, 5 was better than 99.9% of anything else that's on television but by Wire standards it blew.
I'm still amazed when i watch the Balitmore news, its the Wire and i dont mean the streets only. The political structure is exactly identical by design, except Simon predicted the current spots
My girl, after ripping it early on, is now into it as well. She was put off by the slow starts, but she's hooked too. I'm going to knock out 2 more episodes tonight
I actually ended up finishing three episodes last night and I am through #7. The dissent in the Barksdale gang is going to be fun to watch and see how it plays out. And how stupid is Bodie? Nice bag drop, dumbass.
Agreed on the GOAT and I'm only 1.5 seasons in.
I love Bodie.
So do dog owners, apparently. Three dogs at the park where I run my dogs are named Bodie, all owners admitting they took the name from the Wire.
He was funny in the first season when he was gettin' roughed up by Herc and the other dude whose name I forget at the moment.
That Ziggy dude is annoying...I hope his little plan to branch out on his own backfires.
ziggy is on the short list of greatest television characters ever
bodie is my favorite wire character
I have a dozen favorites. Landsman, Rawls, Wee-bey, Slim Charles, Donut to name a few..love 'em all
Quote from: ice grillin you on February 24, 2009, 12:15:40 PM
ziggy is on the short list of greatest television characters ever
bodie is my favorite wire character
I didn't get the whole duck thing after Maui whupped him. I thought he was going to buy it and put in in dude's car and let it shtein all over the place.
I like McNulty...his excuse after bangin' the two whores "what?! You got here too late!" in the last episode was funny.
I capped off the second season last night.
Wow on Ziggy...I thought he would farg up, but nothing like that.
Now I've got to go buy 3.
Stringer Bell...my guess is that he's not long for the game anymore.
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on February 24, 2009, 12:34:34 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on February 24, 2009, 12:15:40 PM
ziggy is on the short list of greatest television characters ever
bodie is my favorite wire character
I didn't get the whole duck thing after Maui whupped him. I thought he was going to buy it and put in in dude's car and let it shtein all over the place.
imo getting the duck served no purpose other than to use it to speak on ziggys personality
getting the duck was to show ziggys complete lack of impulse control...even when the guy tried to talk him out of a duck and that there were better and easier birds to get he still said no and had to get the duck...stubborn no thinking no debating just get the duck on a whim
i guess i need to stop reading this thread
we could just PM the spoilers directly to you if you prefer
ziggy pops back up again in generation kill. his name is different but its more or less the same character
Quote from: SunMo on February 25, 2009, 08:48:00 AM
i guess i need to stop reading this thread
hahahah...i swear to gawd i was gonna tell phreak this morning to watch out for spoilers cause you were watching it too (notice i havent given any)...but hes been doing it for like a week now and i figured you stopped coming here
Yeah, he was definitely thrown off in the head...dude is hurtin for cash yet he flames a hundred and chunks a wad o' cash out of Nicky's window.
The show is like crack. I try to pace myself because I don't want it to end, but I can't watch just one a night.
Quote from: SunMo on February 25, 2009, 08:48:00 AM
i guess i need to stop reading this thread
Sorry man. I figured you weren't reading it either. I will keep the discussion to the bottom part of the posts with an alert.
Quote from: MDS on February 25, 2009, 08:54:45 AM
ziggy pops back up again in generation kill. his name is different but its more or less the same character
I knew the ripped fuel guy from Generation Kill looked familiar but I could never put my finger on it.
Favorite Ziggy scene (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=onbKtOAXM6M)
BAD ADVICE....YOU GAVE ME BAD ADVIIIIIICE!!!
my favorite is the ziggy frank jailhouse talk....doesnt matter how many times i watch that it gets to me...definitely a top 5 or 10 wire scene
nothing beats wheres wallace at
check your pm's jew
SPOILER***
Omar cracks me up. The way he goes about business blastin' fools and his testimony/wardrobe at Byrd's trial was great.
i got the shotgun, you got the briefcase
lol phreaks first spoiler alert isnt a spoiler
I'm walking on needles here trying to avoid giving anything away to SunnyMo.
even though the wire is the goat and no one should have the experience ruined, sunmo has proven himself to be a disastrous human being and he really doesnt even count in this instance
haha
netflix sent me the last disc yesterday so i was able to watch the season 1 finale...next up season 2
If you have FIOS the entire season 1 is ondemand. I'm watching the pilot right now.
pilot as in, first episode of the first season? or as in, an episode I have never seen?
Quote from: Diomedes on March 02, 2009, 12:28:10 PM
pilot as in, first episode of the first season? or as in, an episode I have never seen?
First episode of the first season.
damn...my hopes are dashed again
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/02/27/AR2009022703591.html
QuoteIn Baltimore, No One Left to Press the Police
By David Simon
Sunday, March 1, 2009; B01
BALTIMORE In the halcyon days when American newspapers were feared rather than pitied, I had the pleasure of reporting on crime in the prodigiously criminal environs of Baltimore. The city was a wonderland of chaos, dirt and miscalculation, and loyal adversaries were many. Among them, I could count police commanders who felt it was their duty to demonstrate that crime never occurred in their precincts, desk sergeants who believed that they had a right to arrest and detain citizens without reporting it and, of course, homicide detectives and patrolmen who, when it suited them, argued convincingly that to provide the basic details of any incident might lead to the escape of some heinous felon. Everyone had very good reasons for why nearly every fact about a crime should go unreported.
In response to such flummery, I had in my wallet, next to my Baltimore Sun press pass, a business card for Chief Judge Robert F. Sweeney of the Maryland District Court, with his home phone number on the back. When confronted with a desk sergeant or police spokesman convinced that the public had no right to know who had shot whom in the 1400 block of North Bentalou Street, I would dial the judge.
And then I would stand, secretly delighted, as yet another police officer learned not only the fundamentals of Maryland's public information law, but the fact that as custodian of public records, he needed to kick out the face sheet of any incident report and open his arrest log to immediate inspection. There are civil penalties for refusing to do so, the judge would assure him. And as chief judge of the District Court, he would declare, I may well invoke said penalties if you go further down this path.
Delays of even 24 hours? Nope, not acceptable. Requiring written notification from the newspaper? No, the judge would explain. Even ordinary citizens have a right to those reports. And woe to any fool who tried to suggest to His Honor that he would need a 30-day state Public Information Act request for something as basic as a face sheet or an arrest log.
"What do you need the thirty days for?" the judge once asked a police spokesman on speakerphone.
"We may need to redact sensitive information," the spokesman offered.
"You can't redact anything. Do you hear me? Everything in an initial incident report is public. If the report has been filed by the officer, then give it to the reporter tonight or face contempt charges tomorrow."
The late Judge Sweeney, who'd been named to his post in the early 1970s, when newspapers were challenging the Nixonian model of imperial governance, kept this up until 1996, when he retired. I have few heroes left, but he still qualifies.
To be a police reporter in such a climate was to be a prince of the city, and to be a citizen of such a city was to know that you were not residing in a police state. But no longer -- not in Baltimore and, I am guessing, not in any city where print journalism spent the 1980s and '90s taking profits and then, in the decade that followed, impaling itself on the Internet.
In January, a new Baltimore police spokesman -- a refugee from the Bush administration -- came to the incredible conclusion that the city department could decide not to identify those police officers who shot or even killed someone. (Similar policies have been established by several other police departments in the United States as well as by the FBI.)
Anthony Guglielmi, the department's director of public affairs, informed Baltimoreans that, henceforth, Police Commissioner Frederick Bealefeld would decide unilaterally whether citizens would know the names of those who had used their weapons on civilians. If they did something illegal or unwarranted -- in the commissioner's judgment -- they would be named. Otherwise, the Baltimore department would no longer regard the decision to shoot someone as the sort of responsibility for which officers might be required to stand before the public.
As justification for this change, Bealefeld, in a letter to the City Council, cited 23 threats in 2008 against his officers. Police union officials further wheeled out the example of the only Baltimore police officer killed as an act of revenge for a police-involved shooting -- a 2001 case in which the officer was seen by happenstance in a Dundalk bar, then stalked and murdered.
Bealefeld didn't mention that not one of the 23 threats against officers came in response to any use of lethal force. Nor did he acknowledge that 23 threats against a 3,000-officer force in a year is an entirely routine number; that the number of such threats hasn't grown over the past several years, according to sources within the department.
And union officials were comfortable raising the 2001 case without being forced to acknowledge that the officer in that instance most probably would have been killed had no newspaper ever printed his name; he had testified in open court against the relatives of those who later encountered him at the bar and killed him. So the case has scant relevance to the change in policy.
The commissioner was allowed to stand on half-truths. Why? Because the Baltimore Sun's cadre of police reporters -- the crime beat used to carry four and five different bylines -- has been thinned to the point where no one was checking Bealefeld's statements or those of his surrogates.
On Feb. 17, when a 29-year-old officer responded to a domestic dispute in East Baltimore, ended up fighting for her gun and ultimately shot an unarmed 61-year-old man named Joseph Alfonso Forrest, the Sun reported the incident, during which Forrest died, as a brief item. It did not name the officer, Traci McKissick, or a police sergeant who later arrived at the scene to aid her and who also shot the man.
It didn't identify the pair the next day, either, because the Sun ran no full story on the shooting, as if officers battling for their weapons and unarmed 61-year-old citizens dying by police gunfire are no longer the grist of city journalism. At which point, one old police reporter lost his mind and began making calls.
No, the police spokesman would not identify the officers, and for more than 24 hours he would provide no information on whether either one of them had ever been involved in similar incidents. And that's the rub, of course. Without a name, there's no way for anyone to evaluate an officer's performance independently, to gauge his or her effectiveness and competence, to know whether he or she has shot one person or 10.
It turns out that McKissick -- who is described as physically diminutive -- had had her gun taken from her once before. In 2005, police sources said, she was in the passenger seat of a suspect's car as the suspect, who had not been properly secured, began driving away from the scene. McKissick pulled her gun, the suspect grabbed for it and a shot was fired into the rear seat. Eventually, the suspect got the weapon and threw it out of the car; it was never recovered. Charges were dropped on the suspect, according to his defense attorney, Warren Brown, after Brown alleged in court that McKissick's supervisors had rewritten reports, tailoring and sanitizing her performance.
And so on Feb. 17, the same officer may have again drawn her weapon only to find herself again at risk of losing the gun. The shooting may be good and legally justified, and perhaps McKissick has sufficient training and is a capable street officer. But in the new world of Baltimore, where officers who take life are no longer named or subject to public scrutiny, who can know?
Quote
In this instance, the Sun caught up on the story somewhat; I called the editor and vented everything I'd learned about the earlier incident. But had it relied on the unilateral utterances of Baltimore's police officials, the Sun would have been told that McKissick had been involved "in one earlier shooting. She was dragged behind a car by a suspect and she fired one shot, which did not strike anyone. The shooting was ruled justified."
That's the sanitized take that Guglielmi, the police spokesman, offered on the 2005 incident. When I asked him for the date of that event, with paperwork in front of him, he missed it by exactly six months. An honest mistake? Or did he just want to prevent a reporter from looking up public documents at the courthouse? (Attempts to reach McKissick, who remains on administrative leave, were unsuccessful.)
Half-truths, obfuscations and apparent deceit -- these are the wages of a world in which newspapers, their staffs eviscerated, no longer battle at the frontiers of public information. And in a city where officials routinely plead with citizens to trust the police, where witnesses have for years been vulnerable to retaliatory violence, we now have a once-proud department's officers hiding behind anonymity that is not only arguably illegal under existing public information laws, but hypocritical as well.
There is a lot of talk nowadays about what will replace the dinosaur that is the daily newspaper. So-called citizen journalists and bloggers and media pundits have lined up to tell us that newspapers are dying but that the news business will endure, that this moment is less tragic than it is transformational.
Well, sorry, but I didn't trip over any blogger trying to find out McKissick's identity and performance history. Nor were any citizen journalists at the City Council hearing in January when police officials inflated the nature and severity of the threats against officers. And there wasn't anyone working sources in the police department to counterbalance all of the spin or omission.
I didn't trip over a herd of hungry Sun reporters either, but that's the point. In an American city, a police officer with the authority to take human life can now do so in the shadows, while his higher-ups can claim that this is necessary not to avoid public accountability, but to mitigate against a nonexistent wave of threats. And the last remaining daily newspaper in town no longer has the manpower, the expertise or the institutional memory to challenge any of it.
At one point last week, after the department spokesman denied me the face sheet of the shooting report, I tried doing what I used to do: I went to the Southeastern District and demanded the copy on file there.
When the desk officer refused to give it to me, I tried calling the chief judge of the District Court. But Sweeney's replacement no longer handles such business. It's been a while since any reporter asked, apparently. So I tried to explain the Maryland statutes to the shift commander, but so long had it been since a reporter had demanded a public document that he stared at me as if I were an emissary from some lost and utterly alien world.
Which is, sadly enough, exactly true.
DGunn reminds me of Bunk
Dawkins talking reminds me of Bubs
Anyone know the site that has the full episodes for free? Fios ondemand only has 12 of the 13 episodes of season 1 up.
shame on anyone that doesnt have the dvd's
I've got seasons 1-2 and will buy 3 this weekend.
I got all five, making me good with vigy. What a relief.
good with god not vigy
id also think that everyone would wanna be a great american
well that's me to a T, great american
Quote from: ice grillin you on March 06, 2009, 09:52:32 PM
shame on anyone that doesnt have the dvd's
Lent them to my buddy. He finally watched it last week and text'd me how he should have watched it sooner blah blah blah.
When it was on HBO i got my dad into it halfway into the first season. He was hooked after the first episode. Nothing better than my dad trying to figure out what the hell they were saying.
episode 13 of season 1 and season 2 are up on Fios
watched silence of the lambs and mississippi burning this week back to back (two of my top 5) and frankie faison is in both...hes barney in silence and the preacher in burning
also
Tristan Wilds, who plays Dixon Wilson in the CW's 90210, has been cast in the war drama Red Tails, according to The Hollywood Reporter. The motion picture was written by John Ridley and chronicles the true story of the 332nd Fighter Group, an elite, all African-American unit of escort pilots. George Lucas is an exective producer. Wilds also starred in HBO's critically-acclaimed drama The Wire.
Omar identifying Byrd in court with "Wat up Byrd?" was one of the funniest things i've seen...i'm almost through season 2
Quote from: ice grillin you on March 20, 2009, 12:04:01 PM
watched silence of the lambs and mississippi burning this week back to back (two of my top 5) and frankie faison is in both...hes barney in silence and the preacher in burning
also
Tristan Wilds, who plays Dixon Wilson in the CW's 90210, has been cast in the war drama Red Tails, according to The Hollywood Reporter. The motion picture was written by John Ridley and chronicles the true story of the 332nd Fighter Group, an elite, all African-American unit of escort pilots. George Lucas is an exective producer. Wilds also starred in HBO's critically-acclaimed drama The Wire.
Or you could go to Blockbuster and rent this instead. (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0114745/)
tuskegee airmen was a horrible movie and i cant imagine this one wont be better
not that im really interested in it anyway
stringer bell on the office. yes.
Quote from: SunMo on March 20, 2009, 12:11:02 PM
Omar identifying Byrd in court with "Wat up Byrd?" was one of the funniest things i've seen...i'm almost through season 2
I'm rewatching season 2 myself since it's ondemand. On episode 10 right now. Seeing alliances and how characters set up for future episodes is giving me a new appreciation for the series.
i'm not rewatching son, im watching
Prop Jon
I've gotta get Season Three...I'm going through withdrawal.
finished season 2 over the weekend...farging great shtein. the end of episode 11, the long shot of Frank walking down to meet with The Greek and you know he's farged, what a great moment.
i thought the guy in the FBI helping The Greek was a leak, but he was a real agent and The Greek was a terrorist informant? is that right? that part happened quick.
i think the part i loved most is that they got away, it wasn't a nicely tied up storyline like the first season.
Quote from: SunMo on March 23, 2009, 10:08:36 AM
i thought the guy in the FBI helping The Greek was a leak, but he was a real agent and The Greek was a terrorist informant? is that right? that part happened quick.
The FBI guy helping the Greek would get alerts when a name of interest related to the Greek would pop up. McNulty's FBI buddy figured it out but not until it was too late, that's why he called San Diego to find the guy but they said he had been transferred to DC as part of Homeland Security. The Greek gave him that huge crack shipment which was the Columbians because he was pissed at them for not living up to their end of the bargin regarding the chemicals. "Columbians, they have no honor". He also did it as a favor for alerting him to the raid.
Season 2 is really underrated.
Yeah, I got all that. But, I thought it was an infiltration of the FBI by The Greek, not a working relationship between the two.
the greek is not an on the books official fbi informant...he has a quid pro quo relationship with koutrios...its not entirely told how their relationship began but i suspect it was from when glekas got bagged by the feds in san diego...perhaps because koutris is greek he was approached by the "greeks" and made an offer he couldnt refuse...theres no way to know for sure
Quote from: SunMo on March 23, 2009, 10:08:36 AM
finished season 2 over the weekend...farging great shtein. the end of episode 11, the long shot of Frank walking down to meet with The Greek and you know he's farged, what a great moment.
i thought the guy in the FBI helping The Greek was a leak, but he was a real agent and The Greek was a terrorist informant? is that right? that part happened quick.
i think the part i loved most is that they got away, it wasn't a nicely tied up storyline like the first season.
No doubt...he took that walk knowing he was doomed. Unless he was dumb enough to think that he could talk his way out of that mess.
It always trips me out to see guys from other shows take on these roles you're not accustom to seeing them in. Frank played on Third Watch as the chick cops husband and was a Hoyda. Koutrios was an old ass thrown off inmate in Oz.
It took me a minute to catch what was goin down at the end too...at first I thought that Koutrios was not even a FBI guy, that he had some hook up and was fronting as an FBI guy out of the SD office.
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on March 24, 2009, 04:34:50 PM
No doubt...he took that walk knowing he was doomed. Unless he was dumb enough to think that he could talk his way out of that mess.
the greeks didnt even know they were gonna kill him when he began that walk so how was he to know...and frank didnt need to talk his way out of anything...he was going to listen to them on their offer to help zig out
The Greek wasn't Greek
im not even going to bother with Netflix for season 3...just wait until its OnDemand...this farging 2 episodes per disc shtein is bullshtein
Quote from: SunMo on March 24, 2009, 07:10:51 PM
im not even going to bother with Netflix for season 3...just wait until its OnDemand...this farging 2 episodes per disc shtein is bullshtein
if you didnt basically spit on my season 1 offer i might lend my season 3 to you
Quote from: SD_Eagle on March 24, 2009, 06:00:39 PM
The Greek wasn't Greek
:o
Quote from: ice grillin you on March 24, 2009, 04:51:56 PM
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on March 24, 2009, 04:34:50 PM
No doubt...he took that walk knowing he was doomed. Unless he was dumb enough to think that he could talk his way out of that mess.
the greeks didnt even know they were gonna kill him when he began that walk so how was he to know...and frank didnt need to talk his way out of anything...he was going to listen to them on their offer to help zig out
I thought he knew he was gonna get offed...thats how I saw it. At least that wa sthe impression I got.
not until koutris called the greek as frank was walking towards them...before that they were going to tell him how they could get his son out of jail in exchange for his silence
Right...yeah, I forgot about the call....
I didn't get 3 this weekend...I've been slacking. I should just come off the 180 and buy all of them
yeah you should because youre going to need to rewatch each season at least 3-4 times to get everything...in fact i would saying the third rewatching is better than the first...im constantly watching them and i still see new stuff
Quote from: ice grillin you on March 24, 2009, 07:32:36 PM
Quote from: SunMo on March 24, 2009, 07:10:51 PM
im not even going to bother with Netflix for season 3...just wait until its OnDemand...this farging 2 episodes per disc shtein is bullshtein
if you didnt basically spit on my season 1 offer i might lend my season 3 to you
i didn't spit on it, i actually borrowed it, just never watched it. now, i've seen the errors of my ways. gimmie.
ill think about it
I'm thinking they'll put season 3 up in the beginning of April. Lots of Omar, Hamsterdam, lots of story lines get tied up, and others spring up. It's the pay off season from 1 and 2 and the pivotal set up season for 4 and 5.
I got that WMD
season three is all about my nucka rawls and the comstat meetings....he is legendary in those
****SEASON 4****
I'm embarrassed I didn't catch this the first time, but is Randy Cheese's son?
nothing to be embarrassed about because it wasnt actually ever told in the show but yes he is his son per david simon lectures since the show ended
I'd have to watch season 4 over but I don't think they ever said 100% Randy was Cheese's son. I think they share the same last name (wagstaff or some shtein) so viewers put the connection together.
(http://smokingsection.uproxx.com/TSS/wp-content/uploads/2008/03/thewire_cast.jpg)
Talk about The Wire and get quick responses, I like.
Also, Narisse (sp?) is hot as hell. I really want to lick her.
is there a cooler person on the planet than the guy who plays slim charles? hes basically himself except a drug dealer. dude plays in a jazz band in dc. i love him.
case that mimics the wire just went on trial in bodymore...
http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/local/baltimore_city/bal-md.byers25mar25,0,3788772.story
we are doing an ncaa style wire character tourney...
results so far from round one
Western District region
1 Omar Little def. 16 Shardene Innis (101-9)
8 Chris Partlow def. 9 Clarence Royce (84-18)
New Day Co-op region
3 Cedric Daniels def. 14 Scott Templeton (94-5)
4 D'Angelo Barksdale def. 13 Theresa D'Agostino (88-10)
5 Roland "Prez" Pryzbylewski def. 12 Rhonda Pearlman (79-20)
11 Maurice "Maury" Levy def. 6 Nick Sobotka (60-47)
Stevedores Local #1514 region
2 Lester Freamon def. 15 De' londa Brice (89-16)
7 Wallace def. 10 Chester Karol "Ziggy" Sobotka (62-55)
who is 'we'
Turned on Starship Troopers today, i forgot Carver was a Ruffneck
http://docs.google.com/Doc?id=dgs2mbj2_0ckg7b4gg
(http://img4.imageshack.us/img4/4742/bracketd.jpg)
Awful.
agreed...fanboy fagfest at its worst
its literally the coolest funnest thing ive ever done on the internet
Your mom is having way more fun with the internet than you are.
my mama even loved the wire...thats how good it is
I cannot get over how gay that is.
theres nothing gay about 63 threads of hardcore wire talk
and i leave you corksuckers with perhaps the greatest speech in the history of televison courtesy of The Baltimore Police Departments Deputy Comissioner of Pperations - Major William J Rawls
But in the Western, what do I get from a veteran commander? Ha ha ha ha. You're just having a laugh, aren't you Bunny? You got the real stats and projections somewhere else. Someone's just outside the door with them right? A stripper, maybe that would be nice. She comes in, flashes a little tit, gives us a whiff of that muff, and delivers my fargin' stat sheets with a reduction that matches just what we promised the mayor. That would be beautiful! That would be creme fargin' brulee.
But what I got instead is some half-assed, "I wish we were doing better" platitude that's uh, meant to fool maybe a six year old girl into thinking you're doing your job? Well she's left the room, Major Colvin. She's out there right now asking the stripper if she can have her job when she grows up, because she sure as shtein doesn't want yours! You know why? Because there isn't gonna be a god damn Western District in 20 years if this shtein keeps up!
lolol
"you mcnulty are a gaping icehole"..."the motherfarger saying this hates your guts"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gtaf9Hp04yY
medium rare lotta horseradish
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0qBPK4wpZpw&feature=related
slightly on subject from that
these are the episode ilene nathan has been in:
"The Wire" (6 episodes)
1. The Hunt (18 August 2002) - Asst. State's Atty. Ilene Nathan
2. Sentencing (8 September 2002) - Asst. State's Atty. Ilene Nathan
3. Undertow (29 June 2003) - State's Atty. Ilene Nathan
4. All Prologue (6 July 2003) - State's Atty. Ilene Nathan
5. Unto Others (29 October 2006) - Asst. State's Atty. Ilene Nathan
6. Corner Boys (5 November 2006) - State's Atty. Ilene Nathan (uncredited)
how amazing is it to have a semi important character that has appeared in season 1,2 and 4 basically due to one murder that took place in the first episode. could this work on any other show?
State's Atty. Ilene Nathan: Mr. Little, how does a man rob drug dealers for eight or nine years and live to tell about it?
Omar: Day at a time I suppose?
(http://www.hbo.com/thewire/img/episodeguide/season01/ep01_dangelo_dealers.jpg)
Article on Treme as it wraps production on the pilot: http://blog.nola.com/davewalker/2009/04/on_the_treme_trail_david_simon.html
If it gets picked it up it wont air until earliest fall 2010.
cast includes: the bunk, lestor, the girl who played tosha mitchell (she was four episodes, 2 in both 3 and 4...any idea who she was?), fran from the corner, joanie from deadwood, steve zahn.
david simon has done: homicide, the corner, the wire, generation kill. thats it, thats the list.
home. farging. run.
the corner was horrible (good book tho) and i didnt think generation kill was anything special
never seen homocide
tosha mitchell was the girl who caught one in the middle of the street after omar and his crew tried to rob the stash house
I just watched last weeks Law and Order SVU. Gotta love an Epi with Bunny and Chris Partlow.
Quote from: ice grillin you on April 06, 2009, 02:47:19 PM
the corner was horrible (good book tho) and i didnt think generation kill was anything special
never seen homocide
tosha mitchell was the girl who caught one in the middle of the street after omar and his crew tried to rob the stash house
corner was superb. g kill was also great. obviously nothing close to the wire as if anything ever will, but still pretty damn good.
i wish i had seen the corner before the wire...it might have been ok then...it was unwatchable having seen the wire...i didnt even finish it....generation kill wasnt horrible or anything just very boring
holy shtein, it just hit me that ziggy was the annoying cvnt in generation kill
Gen Kill was supposed to be boring. Just about how pointless the shtein was. The cast was great, and i think thats what sets Simon apart from all other writer/director/producers out there, he find actors or real people and doesnt let them ruin scenes.
Quote from: SunMo on April 07, 2009, 08:51:33 AM
holy shtein, it just hit me that ziggy was the annoying cvnt in generation kill
wow
Quote from: Seabiscuit36 on April 07, 2009, 08:52:07 AM
Gen Kill was supposed to be boring. Just about how pointless the shtein was.
lol awesome...but keep that shtein in real life where it belongs...dont make a 12 hour mini series about boredom
Quote from: ice grillin you on April 07, 2009, 08:55:26 AM
Quote from: SunMo on April 07, 2009, 08:51:33 AM
holy shtein, it just hit me that ziggy was the annoying cvnt in generation kill
wow
well, i just got done season 2. it's not like i had seen it and then seen Gen Kill
yeah but he played the same character (minus the self hate).....its no wonder simon cast him in that role...what im saying is i cant believe you watched season two and didnt immediately upon seeing zig say "thats the guy from generation kill"
its another thing i didnt like about gen kill...i was seeing ziggy the whole time
no, i just watched season two, and said..."where have i seen this mother farger from"
gen kill didn't really rock me. i watched a few but didn't care that much about it.
Familiar convrsation
Quote from: SD_Eagle on February 25, 2009, 11:09:27 AM
Quote from: MDS on February 25, 2009, 08:54:45 AM
ziggy pops back up again in generation kill. his name is different but its more or less the same character
I knew the ripped fuel guy from Generation Kill looked familiar but I could never put my finger on it.
Favorite Ziggy scene (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=onbKtOAXM6M)
ghosts of late feb past
because i know you care
sweet 16 matchups today and monday
Western District region:
1 Omar Little vs. 4 Michael Lee
2 Marlo Stanfield vs. 3 Ellis Carver
New Day Co-op region:
1 Frank Sobotka vs. 4 D'Angelo Barksdale
2 William "Bunk" Moreland vs. 3 Cedric Daniels
Edward J. Tilghman Middle School region:
1 James "Jimmy" McNulty vs. 5 Dennis "Cutty" Wise
2 Reginald "Bubbles" Cousins vs. 3 Avon Barksdale
Stevedores Local #1514 region:
1 Russell "Stringer" Bell vs. 4 "Proposition" Joe Stewart
2 Lester Freamon vs. 3 Preston "Bodie" Broadus
omar won this before it even started.
probably but i give stringer a shot at an upset
i like bodie better than either of them
how the farg is 1 season character in sobatka a 1 seed and where the farg is slim charles.
big g da ghetto prince
Quote from: MDS on April 10, 2009, 11:28:42 AM
how the farg is 1 season character in sobatka a 1 seed
easily deserves it...he has more powerhouse scenes than maybe anyone in the history of the show...and its ironic that you make that dumb comment then ask where slim charles is...frank had way more screen time than slim did...
for the record i love slim but saying frank didnt deserve a one is flat wrong...could you find four or five others as deserving im sure you could...but frank more than earned it
slim was the farging coolest character in the show. easily my favorite.
yes sobotka had great scenes but the 1's are easily omar, lestor, daniels and the bunk. hanging around for 5 seasons must count for something.
lol @ lester
i cant even discuss this with you
wire elitist
its called common sense not elitism
its common sense that a dude who was in 11 episodes for 1 story arc is better than a guy who was in just about every episode and played a pivotal role in numerous story lines? how flippin awesome was the lester character. the way they brought him along and slowly revealed how skilled he was? how he would school mcnulty and his interaction with the bunk?
perhaps his most memorable scene is this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7EeFa8QOq_Y but never the less he is a great character. if sobotoka hadnt been killed off (yes that was an amazing scene to end the episode), he would be a solid choice.
cracker
die
The thread or the two freaks talking about a defunct television show?
Quote from: phattymatty on April 10, 2009, 09:33:41 AM
omar won this before it even started.
like when Alba won the MB competition
Quote from: Rome on April 10, 2009, 05:55:08 PM
The thread or the two freaks talking about a defunct television show?
Can't it be both?
Quote from: MDS on April 10, 2009, 05:39:20 PM
its common sense that a dude who was in 11 episodes for 1 story arc is better than a guy who was in just about every episode and played a pivotal role in numerous story lines? how flippin awesome was the lester character. the way they brought him along and slowly revealed how skilled he was? how he would school mcnulty and his interaction with the bunk?
perhaps his most memorable scene is this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7EeFa8QOq_Y but never the less he is a great character. if sobotoka hadnt been killed off (yes that was an amazing scene to end the episode), he would be a solid choice.
cracker
im not even saying there isnt someone who could replace him as a one and there not be an argument...im saying he is definitely worthy of it...its not even a question...but mostly what i was saying is youre insane for thinking lester smoov would be on that line much less is better than frank...frank carried an entire season like no one else on the show has...he pretty much owned everyone scene he was ever in and he has more great scenes than i can count...it was almost like he was to consistent...he was top notch whenever he appeared vs other guys being incredible here or there but coasting other times
Quote from: Rome on April 10, 2009, 05:55:08 PM
The thread or the two freaks talking about a defunct television show?
the wire like the 700 level lives
well i guess im in the minority if a character who was in 11 episodes is so popular.
website lets you download david simons pitch to hbo on the wire (features original character outlines that they changed) and a few scripts
can anyone tell me how to get this shtein to work, this might be the greatest thing ever
http://www.kottke.org/09/04/the-wire-bible
season 3 is ondemand now
lester freamon to play nelson mandela
http://entertainment.timesonline.co.uk/tol/arts_and_entertainment/film/article6193200.ece
Quote from: ice grillin you on April 30, 2009, 12:31:16 PM
lester freamon to play nelson mandela
http://entertainment.timesonline.co.uk/tol/arts_and_entertainment/film/article6193200.ece
i thought the obvious choice would have been robert downey jr.
treme gets picked up for nine episodes (im guessing thats in addition to the already completed pilot). hbo says they want to air it in the fall, but because of hurricane season in new orleans, they can't really start shooting until november. so...who knows. but the wire: nawlins will air. nice.
David Simon is on Bill Maher this week
I finished season 3 over the weekend and started season 4.
Season 3 was incredible. The last two episodes especially.
My initial reaction was that season 3 was my favorite. Story wise it wasn't the best but action wise and how pivotal it was to the entire series did it for me. I'm still waiting for 4 to come Ondemand (maybe it already is but I think I saw June 8th) but memory tells me it was the best season. I could go 1 or 3 as tied for second. 2 is the most underrated. 5 is a distant 5th, I won't spoil anything for you but the more I watch earlier episodes the worse that season looks. (igy will be along shortly to remind everyone season 5 of the wire >>>>>>>>>> everythng else on tv)
actually after seeing five another three times and just started my fourth go round its gotten a lot better...its especially better when you can go right into it after season four as opposed to the two year wait or whatever it was when season four originally ended...its still the 'worst' season but it gets better with age and is ridiculously good
its useless to try and rank the first four seasons because the minute you do you watch them again and completely change your opinion...they are all equally good in their own special way...gun to my head today id go
2
1
4
3
5
i just watched 1 and 2 for the 2nd time and am in the midst of doing 3 for the 2nd time. i already did 4 and 5 twice, but i stick at:
4, 1, 2, 3, 5
but yea, they are equally good in their own special way. the problem is they are so good it sucks that it ends. like with 1 the story was terrific then you have a letdown going to the port story. but then that turns into something incredible, but it then it ends. the politics/hampsterdam story and newspaper thing dont come anywhere close to the initial barksdale investigation, schools or port story. they are still great in their own right, but on different levels of greatness.
I just got HBO again and they show only the second half of season 3 on demand.
I've said it before, but I'll just buy the thing because I want to own them all. I'm going through withdrawal and hopefully I will be able to find time to sit down and start watching again.
its unbelievable how the show is much better the more you watch it and you never stop catching new things you missed on prior viewings....at least i havent yet
yea season 1 judge to pearlman: "you keep this up, maybe in 10 years you'll be in a robe."
even the first episode of season 4 the look royce gives his secretary and the next episode opens with her blowing him. you dont even notice it first viewing up second or third you catch that they kind of smirk at each other.
I got my dad watching The Wire by the 2nd orig episode, he was hooked.
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on May 28, 2009, 09:15:36 PM
I just got HBO again and they show only the second half of season 3 on demand.
The entire season was up but they took the first half off within the past week. Hopefully they put the first half of season 4 up since there's space. The last 6 episodes of season 3 expire June 8th.
4, 3, 1 or 2.........5
4, 2, 1, 3,.....5
4 was pretty much the most amazing season of a tv series i've ever seen. 2 to me was damn good. 1 the first introduction to the characters and it all was really a setup for great things to come. Season 3 was another beyond solid season. Then there was the final season, still good, but a little off from the previous seasons
How many farging times can you people have the exact same conversation? farg.
the wire dont die it multiplies
The Wire is not Bebe's Kids.
Quote from: MDS on May 28, 2009, 09:25:41 PM
even the first episode of season 4 the look royce gives his secretary and the next episode opens with her blowing him. you dont even notice it first viewing up second or third you catch that they kind of smirk at each other.
i noticed it right away, and even said to girl "they're farging"
i guess i'm just a little better at watching the wire than you are
yeah he really couldnt have picked a worse example
its something that just came to my mind you filthy jews
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Quote from: rjs246 on May 29, 2009, 06:25:23 AM
How many farging times can you people have the exact same conversation? farg.
we're waiting for you to watch it so you can join in. [funny grade school analogy would go here]
im gonna take my wire and go home?
I plan on watching it.
I am certain that I will enjoy it.
I will NEVER post about it here.
I was going more for all the other kids have one so the kid without one bashes it without reason. It's an infantile response to acceptance.
I'm not bashing the show. I've heard universally great things about it. I'm bashing the fact that you buttholes keep saying the exact same things about it over and over and over again for 49 pages. No one has said anything new for at least 30 pages.
It's hard to post something new when there are no new episodes. For those of us that have seen it, we like to read commentary from people that are just getting to experience the show (in this case phreak and sun).
david simon wasnt on bill maher 30 pages ago
His new show is about the music scene in New Orleans post Katrina.
it'll blow you away.
alan sepinwall has started doing his weekly summer reviews of the wire again....this summer is season two....he didnt start doing weekly reviews of the show until season 4 so last summer he went through season 1 like it was new again and posted reviews...as well as pointing out things that would be significant later in the show that you wouldnt have realized the first time around.....its really cool stuff...theres also a spoiler free link inside the blog for people who may have not seen the whole series
season 2 - http://sepinwall.blogspot.com/2009/05/wire-season-2-episode-1-ebb-tide.html
season 1 (veterans) - http://sepinwall.blogspot.com/search/label/The%20Wire%20season%201%20%28Veterans%29
season 1 (nubs) - http://sepinwall.blogspot.com/search/label/The%20Wire%20season%201%20%28Newbies%29
it took them 6 months to film season four. this is what i learn from dvd commentary.
First 6 episodes of season 4 are ondemand
omar is going to play the mayor of the black section of atlantic city in boardwalk empire, a new show that has a roughly 100% chance of getting picked up by hbo.
its 1920's ac, kinda like mad men meets sopranos. terrance winter is writing, scorscese directing the pilot, so its a win.
I'm gonna sound like igy here but I can't think of a better season of tv than season 4 of the wire.
really? i'm having trouble getting into it. not saying it's bad or i don't like it. but it hasn't grabbed me like 1 thru 3 did. i just finished ep 7 last nite
of course sunmo cant get into it. of course he cant. of course.
Quote from: SunMo on June 13, 2009, 01:22:07 PM
really? i'm having trouble getting into it. not saying it's bad or i don't like it. but it hasn't grabbed me like 1 thru 3 did. i just finished ep 7 last nite
maybe you're not close enough to the tv
Quote from: SD_Eagle on June 13, 2009, 01:03:55 PM
I'm gonna sound like igy here but I can't think of a better season of tv than season 4 of the wire.
its mind blowing how much he developed the characters in one short season...watch the first episode of season four then the last and theres no way youd beileve they are from the same season of a tv show...most shows would take like five seasons to do what simon did in one...its phenominal
bought homicide this weekend
homocide was pretty good before i saw the wire...now i have problems finishing an episode because i cant stop myself from wanting to just put on the wire instead
i mean Simon's book
oh the book is insane...its like reading a non fiction version of the show...i think i read it in less than two days and its not short and i am not a good reader
Spain is the best, and I don't travel much, so I know.
i bought the corner and homocide. both will take me about 3 years to read.
JAMIE HECTOR, who played drug kingpin Marlo Stanfield on "The Wire," just wrapped shooting a film called "The Gift" in town. He stars as an aspiring rapper who runs a credit-card scam to raise money for a surgery necessary for his son, played by Tyire Johnson. Nicole "Hoopz" Alexander, of VH1's "Flavor of Love," plays his wife.
i had a dream last night that i graduated from college and slim charles was sitting at a table with my dad and grandmother.
finished season 4...it was very good.
i haven't seen 5 yet...so i would rate them as follows:
2
3
1
4
First 4 seasons are basically interchangeable as far as favorites go. I could honestly call anyone of them my favorite and feel justified.
I would just like to say that all of you are my favorites. I could never choose between you.
by comparison season 5 would be like reese/munson/cole
its not that bad, more along the lines of fast freddie or sarge
speaking of
where has the zealout been....
The crowd thins. Wingpsan and Sus have both been pretty absent as well.
Good times.
They're missing all the offseason excitement.
I wrapped up season 3 in about 4 days.
Damn that was a good season.
Seeing Rawls in the homo-bar was funny and what happened to Stringer shocked the hell outta me. Never expected that, but seeing him and Avon start turning on each other was inevitable.
He rainmade you Stringer (http://www.boxxet.com/The_Wire/video:levy-tells-stringer-the-truth-about-clay-davis/). Probably the best setup and fall of a character was Stringers downfall.
Excellent Bill Moyers interview of the David Simon, the creator of The Wire. He's a smart guy and I believe he's absolutely correct...
http://www.pbs.org/moyers/journal/04172009/watch.html
51 pages of talk about the wire.
Freaks.
Really though, watch the interview.
simon = gawd
Saw Herc on the big screen today...in Public Enemies.
We could not finish the flick because my girl got sick, but he's got a part connected somehow with the Chicago crime syndicate it looks like.
(http://behance.vo.llnwd.net/profiles3/111050/projects/252777/1110501245946833.jpg)
http://www.behance.net/Gallery/Wire-Illustrations/252777
macnow and r diddy were talking wire during the mid day show and specifically glen was telling r diddy who has never seen it that he must watch it....so out of the blue horseface pakusa calls into the show and offers to mail ray a copy of season two
hott
I should have Horseface mail me 4 & 5.
no hyperbole this is the single best youtube video ever
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Sgj78QG9Bg&feature=player_embedded
IGY, what scene was this song in
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ctxYCFFHGDU
I looked for this crap forever, could never find out who the band was.
love that clip.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PyQvE_VqU84
well yea that video was amazing. i dont know, just, yea.
you are a genius. First time i saw that scene i was looking everywhere for the artist, and never found it until Matty showed the Wire soundtrack.
If I could smash one thread in the face with something heavy it would be this one.
:-D
Picked up Season 4 today at Barnes & Noble. 20% off sale + 25% coupon = win.
Wee-Bay's kid was rockin the Jerome 99 throwback. :yay
(http://www.bet.com/Assets/BET/Published/image/jpeg/2b6220bd-3e08-ef4d-026c-b6e77fcd14c1-ontv_fb_thewire_ep39_05.jpg)
Donut!!
Wrapped up 4 on Saturday.
Awesome.
I was surprised to see Namon turn out to be bitchmade. Great season.
On to 5...gonna scoop it up this weekend.
i dont even know if its my favorite wire season cause that changes all the time as i rewatch
but theres no doubt season four is the best made season in the history of TV
The music dubbed over the final episode...I couldnt catch what happened to Herc in his disciplinary hearing. Did he lose his stripes? He's not the brightest bulb.
I felt bad for Randy too. He's gonna carry that label until he gets killed or moves out of Baltimore.
youll find out what happens to herc in five
the scene with randy going in the group home is devastating
I think what I love the most about this series, and any series really (Sopranos, some of the books I read) is how intricate and day to day they go. No real small details are left out and I love that.
Bodie getting capped was sad too. He turned into one of my favorites.
Also - Marlo, I hope he goes down. When he had that security guard offed...it pissed me off.
You want it one way, but its the other way
http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/obituaries/bal-md.ob.ci.epps29nov29,0,7217286.story
Season 5 in hand today from Barnes and Noble for $29.00.
having now watched the first four season would you agree its the greatest television show youve ever seen phreak?
the best part is once youre done you can immediately start watching them again and start picking up hundreds of things you missed the first go around
you dont need him to agree
its a fact
its a done deal
go home
Quote from: ice grillin you on December 01, 2009, 08:46:01 PM
having now watched the first four season would you agree its the greatest television show youve ever seen phreak?
the best part is once youre done you can immediately start watching them again and start picking up hundreds of things you missed the first go around
Absolutely. It is the king of TV. I told my girl today that I was going to go back and re-watch so I can pick up on missed things and understand everything more plus I can watch the commentaries and bonus stuff.
I want to burn through 5, but I also wanna take it slow and cherish the last season because I know there is no more after this.
Why did Simon end it after 5? Was it his or HBO's call?
simons
he was lucky to get 5
Why was he lucky?
I'm not up on the history behind the show.
no one watched it
it was one of the worst watched shows in HBO history, but they believed in it. I'm getting the Complete Box set for christmas
you have to give credit to HBO not just for keeping the wire on that long but for not messing with it...to my knowledge they only dipped their corny stick into it once in five seasons and that was in making simon include the gant testify flashback scene at the end of the first episode
It's still funny to me since HBO killed so many other shows that were good, Lucky Louie, Carnivale, by not giving them a chance. Whoever the higherups were at HBO that loved the Wire really got something right for once.
while those shows may have been good the fact that pretty much every person that has ever seen the wire thinks its the GOAT tv show kept it on
its not like the wire was just good or even great and they left it on...it was the BEST...i think the suits at HBO even recognized that and were like theres no way we can take this show off
not disagreeing, but i've been very disappointed in how HBO has handled other shows, and wish some got The Wire treatment.
and if they were in the same stratosphere as the wire they may have
no viewers good show = death
no viewers best show ever = five seasons
first off lucky louie sucked. louis ck is perhaps the funniest man alive but the show was awful.
second is the reason the wire hung around was because of the reviews. the fact that simon could run the show on a small budget and kept things within line helped (thats what helped kill deadwood), but hbo is all about perception. the perception of quality. the wire gave that to them. people might not have watched it, but when hearing about it the buzz was 100% this is the greatest thing ever. that gave off the impression that hbo lived in a different stratosphere of existence than everyone else, which is exactly how they sell themselves.
shows like carnivale and the like were solid across the board. ultimately solid doesnt cut it. also they came around 10 years too late. with on demand and dvr, which hbo counts as legit, only really crappy shows are gonna get got. middling stuff like hung and bored to death can pick so many extra viewers outside of the original airing that they overall do well enough to stay on.
also every time someone likes a show that gets got they whine about hows its handled. maybe it wasnt that good. maybe not enough people watched it. how about that you stupid mexican.
It was JFC that hunted mexicans
And has anyone ever watched Epiphatos? I always saw it on the HBO Spanish channel, but ive been seeing it on the regular broadcast lately
http://www.concretefield.info/forum/index.php?topic=18462.0
Quote from: Seabiscuit36 on December 02, 2009, 12:25:59 PM
It was JFC that hunted mexicans
And has anyone ever watched Epiphatos? I always saw it on the HBO Spanish channel, but ive been seeing it on the regular broadcast lately
that show was terrible, too.
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1168599/episodes
What is this? I was digging around on IMDB and saw "The Wire: The Chronicles" and it says it has three episodes.
John Doman (Rawls) is from Philly, by the way.
those are flashback snippets
omar - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wtvgw4xbRqo
prop joe - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g9eVsUgKczE&feature=related
mcnulty and bunk meet - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0uzbmCWGHF8
Quote from: ice grillin you on December 02, 2009, 08:54:26 AM
while those shows may have been good the fact that pretty much every person that has ever seen the wire thinks its the GOAT tv show kept it on
its not like the wire was just good or even great and they left it on...it was the BEST...i think the suits at HBO even recognized that and were like theres no way we can take this show off
I don't know if I would call it the GOAT, then again I would be hard pressed to name one better.
:'(
It's over for me. I finished the final 3 episodes last night. Now I am going to start back at season 1 and watch all the episodes with the commentaries and bonus features.
What a great farging show. Without a doubt the best ever on TV.
A few things about Season Five:
1. I liked how he ended the show. He let us know what went down with everyone and how they progressed or regressed in some cases.
2. How sad was it that Dukie went to the needle with the junk man? I thought that he'd end up back in school after Mike went his own way. When he showed up at the school to ask Prez for help, I thought for sure he'd come back. His job search was admirable and he tried to go right but damn. His discussion with Prez...you could tell he wasn't going for his GED.
3. Omar's death shocked me. A true "oh shtein!" moment. I swear, not 2 minutes before he got capped I told my girl "I hope he tracks Marlo's bitch ass down"...and then he caught one.
4. Speaking of Omar - I liked how Mike seemed to be the "new" Omar. And him capping Snoop "how's my hair look?" was great.
5. Templeton...what an annoying bitch.
6. McNulty's game was good but even when it got too deep I hoped he'd get away with it. I was surprised to see Kima snitch him off. But his effort was what unraveled everything.
7. Slim Charles popping Cheese in the head. Good. He deserved it for having Prop Joe done in.
I could type all night about this show.
One question though...
What was the deal with Marlo at the end? When he walked out of the social event with Levy and went to the street. Was that supposed to mean that the business world wasn't for him and he'd always be in the game on the streets?
people came to both conclusions. im pretty sure simon never said what he meant. whatever you think, basically.
4. Speaking of Omar - I liked how Mike seemed to be the "new" Omar. And him capping Snoop "how's my hair look?" was great.
youll notice when you rewatch season the first time you see omar (episode 3?) he shoots dook in the stashhouse in the knee just as michael deos at the end of the show
as for marlo i think that was his last hurrah on the corner...making one last visit before he knew it was all over forever...simon has said that the great irony in the ending was that marlo got what stringer always wanted and stringer ended up dead a fate that marlo always thought would happen to him at a young age
Wow...that's true, I didn't even think of Stringer/Marlo.
Now I can read Sepinwall's blog , the veteran version, so I won't have any spoilers.
I'm getting the Complete dvd set for christmas, my wife was trying to go cheaper than Amazon's 99 bucks thats up right now. She found some site DVDsets.com or some shtein, and they were charging 45 bucks. farging Chinese website, the entire thing is copies. If i wanted copies, i would just DL it.
best buy i think has it for like 89 right now
and if you wait till after christmas it will be in the 70's if last january repeats itself
I picked up Homicide, seasons 1-2, at Barnes and Noble today for $13.00
Never saw this show before. Any good?
ive seen like two episodes...im sure in its time it was a fine show but its unwatchable if youve seen the wire...same thing is true about 'the corner'
i kinda wish i had wtached both of them before ever seeing the wire
FALSE
the corner is terrific. actually its great to see how several wire characters have bit parts in it, since we never ever see them in anything else.
actually the corner isnt even that good if the wire didnt exist
actually it is. the dude that played gary or whatever his name is was sensational. the chick who played franny who is going to be in simons new show was also great. the kid, eh, but god damn if the junkies were not 1000x more harrowing than anything we saw from bubs. those scenes in the crack house were brutal to watch.
well you saw it before the wire so il give you a pass...but again even taking the fact that i saw the wire first its still really boring with lots of over acting
Quote from: MDS on December 17, 2009, 02:57:51 PM
actually it is. the dude that played gary or whatever his name is was sensational. the chick who played franny who is going to be in simons new show was also great. the kid, eh, but god damn if the junkies were not 1000x more harrowing than anything we saw from bubs. those scenes in the crack house were brutal to watch.
i watched the Corner before the Wire came out, like MDS was saying it was brutal to see the family shtein on the Corner. I havent seen it in what 10 years now so i dont know how it'll compare. Either way i want to watch Homicide, just to see how it was.
i watched the corner in the middle of s4 and s5 of the wire. still great. obviously not on the same planet as the wire but then again what is.
Just started watching the box set last night. BONER
Also, got the wifey watching with me since she's tired of me talking about it, about 20 mins in she was hooked. She likes it since she knows so many of the actors from different shows
wow ive never heard of someone being hooked 20 minutes in...because of the slow build up and the intracacy of the storyline even most of the biggest wire fans i know took a full episode or two
i think my constant talking bout it, plus knowing characters from all the Law and Order shows, and CSI's, she liked it. Again, she's still confused about what happened in Traffic 8 years ago, it was too much for her to keep up. The early character development for me is clutch, its like as each scene goes on, you can see how its growing into something much bigger. Having not watched from the start in like 9 years, or whatever its been since the first showings of it, its better than i had thought. I was a bit worried that looking the second time, that it would disappoint me, but so far 2 epi's in, its what i was hoping for again.
i was hooked 7 seconds in, so there
6 Second Abs
ive watched the entire series more than ten times and i would say it wasnt until maybe the 7th or 8th viewing where it wasnt still getting better with each watch and the second time was infintely better than the first
its really hard to "get" the first time thru which makes for a less satisfying watch
My girl bought me this:
http://www.celebritywonder.com/wp/Dominic_West_in_The_Wire_TV_Wallpaper_2_1024.jpg
and had it framed.
I put it up in my computer room.
TVGuide.com: Would The Wire have happened without HBO doing The Corner as a miniseries first?
David Simon: The Corner gave them confidence that I knew what I was doing, that I had some ability to execute. So no, the first season of The Wire couldn't have happened without The Corner. Maybe it could have, but I think it probably would not have been as easy. It would've been a harder sell. The Corner was a nice step for them in the beginning to trust me.
TVGuide.com: How did you develop the character of Jimmy McNulty?
Simon: {Executive producer] Ed Burns was a [cop] who was nominally assigned to homicide, but he would often pull himself out of the rotation and go to wiretap cases. He had a hard time convincing the department that the methodology was not only sound, but that it should be replicated. I watched him during the last half of his career hit his head against the wall trying to get the police brass to have a little bit of ambition. There's a lot of Burns in McNulty. Ed would laugh at that, because he thinks there's a lot of me in McNulty. We gave him an ex-wife and there were some personal things, but that's writing. You cannibalize everything you have in front of you. I grafted on a lot of stories from hard-drinking cops. There's a lot of oral history in the show. We got to write a lot stories down on cocktail napkins and put them in the show. I think that's what made the show idiosyncratic and, for lack of a better word, real.
TVGuide.com: Why did you choose to have The Wire's story shift so dramatically between seasons?
Simon: I had no interest in doing another cop show. Good and evil and catching the bad guy had not only lost any point to me as narrative, but they were problematic. Even for a well-done police show, when [catching the bad guy by the end of the hour] is the defining issue, you can be pretty much assured that saying anything meaningful about society is going to be marginalized. The Wire was about not doing a cop show, but doing it in the milieu that people recognized.
What we really wanted to do was construct a city and to say these are our problems as a people. [We didn't want to] leave it at the feet of some abstract bad guys in Baltimore. We wanted to say the opposite — that, it's not about good and evil. It's about money and how money and power root themselves in our society. To do that, we had to build a city. Now did I say that to HBO when I first pitched it? Nope, because they'd laugh me out of the room. In the beginning, we basically said we'll undercut the cop show. People will start by thinking they're trying to catch the bad guy. If we do this right, by the end of the first season we'll be wondering what a bad guy is anymore and what a good guy is.
TVGuide.com: The show was known for its complete absence of exposition. Was that a risk?
Simon: If you're trying to be hyper-realistic about your universe as a writer, the one thing you have to get away from is the notion that you're going to explain everything for the reader or the viewer at the moment that all of them might require explanation. Not only does that burden storytelling, and make it false, it's also not the way real life works. [That kind of writing] allows for a different kind of storytelling ambition. TV has never discovered it to any great degree because for most of its history, every 12 minutes they had to stop, sell you some s--t, and worry that you were going to take a leak. Premium cable and the banishment of advertisement created a situation where you could be a lot more sophisticated about your storytelling and not worry about leaving people behind.
TVGuide.com: You killed a bunch of characters. Who was the hardest?
Simon: They were all hard. There was nobody that I wanted to kill off, but the story requires it. This was a tragedy we were writing, and these things have to happen. The hardest one was probably the first, because it was Wallace .The crew was mad. The Baltimore crew had worked on Homicide, and they were used to a certain amount of darkness, but the way in which we killed Wallace bothered everybody on-set. It was the first time we had confronted just where the show was going. I knew there was more to come, but that was the first bite of the apple really.
TVGuide.com: Did you ever wonder if the message was too bleak?
Simon: The parting message is we are no longer a culture than can recognize our own problems, much less begin to solve them. We will accept the short-term solution, the juked statistics, the jerry-rigged profit over actual substance every time. This is the America we've built and paid for, and it's all we deserve. We have not paid the real cost of being a first-rate society. As long as we buy into the notion that you can build a just society with capitalism alone, it's not going to get any better. It was a critique. I am not anti-capitalist, but if you think that's the prescription for building a just society, you're just naïve. It was a real, angry critique of the last 30 or 40 years.
What can you tell us about your new show, Treme?
Simon: [It] is about a particular place that lives in the American imagination. What came out of New Orleans has informed not only American culture over the last century, but it's also informed world culture. You can't go anywhere on the face of earth and walk into a bar and not find Michael Jackson or Otis Redding or John Coltrane on a jukebox. African-American music is the singular greatest creation of our culture. And it only happened because European instrumentation and musical form met up with African rhythm and pentatonic scale. It could only happen because of the American city. With The Wire, I'm afraid some people thought we were denigrating the idea of the city — that we were saying the city was not only unsaveable, but also not worth saving. It may prove unsaveable, but it's definitely worth saving.
TVGuide.com: How has television changed in the past decade?
Simon: For me, the point of origin was Oz. Tom Fontana wrote a story that couldn't have existed on TV prior to premium cable, and he demonstrated for the first time what the potentialities were. In order for television to become a grown-up medium and say grown-up things, you had to get rid of the advertising. There's a premium — you're going to have to pay admission, but we're not going to try to sell you anything other than story itself. The first 50 or 60 years of television was really the infancy. There was a reason it was an inferior medium to film. Film didn't have to leave you every 12 minutes so that you would buy Lincoln Continentals and iPods and blue jeans and feminine hygiene products. The advent of premium cable and the banishment of advertising has created the possibility of TV as a medium having real ambition as an art form.
TVGuide.com: How do you hope it will change over the next 10 years?
Simon: I would like to see more and more outlets for this kind of storytelling. Anywhere where a writer is given the room to tell a story as a story ought to be told is a good thing. Places like HBO and Showtime [give] the showrunner a lot of room — you can either hang yourself or you can create something worthwhile. In book publishing, the editor never steps in and says, this should be a medical novel, and we'd like a love story right up front — a little push me, pull me. Can you imagine telling that to any novelist worth his salt? Publishing never got away from the notion that this about writing and storytelling. Television is about filmmaking and storytelling, and for most of television, the storytellers have been an afterthought. The story was [what] went in-between the advertising. So if there are more places for writers to be left alone to see if they can execute, better stuff is going to happen.
destilupfrontating lol
Great read though. I'm so enjoying watching this thing over again, and watching my wife come home and ask to watch it every night is a thing of beauty
simon is a gawd
fwiw mcnulty said treme is better than the wire. not sure how thats possible, but it bodes well.
http://www.karmaloop.com/search/search.aspx?keywords=the%20wire&msid=
wow
finished season 5 the other day.
agreed, best show on TV.
never saw a show before where every actor was spot on. felt like they were all real people. actually didnt like Method Man being casted because every time I saw him it reminded me the show was fiction and not a documentary. ha.
Rawls chewing people out was some of the best stuff on the show.
Quote from: MURP on January 08, 2010, 10:00:21 PM
finished season 5 the other day.
agreed, best show on TV.
never saw a show before where every actor was spot on. felt like they were all real people. actually didnt like Method Man being casted because every time I saw him it reminded me the show was fiction and not a documentary. ha.
Rawls chewing people out was some of the best stuff on the show.
wow....i have posted in this thread and/or have spoken every one of those opinions verbatim at least 5000 times in my life
Agreed.
That is what made it the best. The people were relative unknowns and this was the only role I knew them as (for the most part) so it felt real.
dude wakes up and starts to walk to the bagel shop at 11:15 in the morning, runs into Omar on the sidewalk and brings him inside to take shots of Patron.
http://sablesma.tumblr.com/post/317850589 (http://sablesma.tumblr.com/post/317850589)
The white guy with the beard looks just like my cousin, farging hipsters
promo for treme
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4jH_KkUyZsw
dont you dare turn this into a treme thread...take that shtein into the tv johnson
its david simon who is god so it goes
its also basically the wire in new orleans with music
that iraq war thing he did was average at best...youre acting like hes made ten classics since the wire
pump your brakes homie in calling anything the wire
i even stopped calling actual wires by that word out of respect for The Wire
I am watching this show from the begining and out of disdain for all of you I will not expound on it in this thread. Idiots.
Quote from: ice grillin you on January 12, 2010, 08:14:27 PM
that iraq war thing he did was average at best...youre acting like hes made ten classics since the wire
pump your brakes homie in calling anything the wire
youre average at best
homocide was a solid series, the corner was great, the wire was godly, gen kill was solid
RESPECT THE LEGEND YOU CHRISTIAN
I haven't read any of this thread in order to avoid spoilers. I'm off today so I've been more or less binging on the show.
I'm assuming everyone who has read up to this point in the thread is aware past where I am but just in case I'll say what I'm going to say next is spoilerific.
Stringer just got killed by Brother Mouzone and Omar. He was one farging smart dude. Honestly if everyone ran the drug trade like he did there wouldn't be nearly as many drug related issues. It's a shame he got taken out before Avon.
he was business smart, but he wasn't street smart, that was the play between him Avon. they needed each other to be successful and when they tried to do their own thing it led to their downfall.
stringer was so smart he let clay davis take him for suitcases full of cash
i cant believe someone from souderton sat through a show about black people
im proud of you, jonathan
Quote from: SunMo on January 13, 2010, 07:47:39 PM
he was business smart, but he wasn't street smart, that was the play between him Avon. they needed each other to be successful and when they tried to do their own thing it led to their downfall.
stringer was so smart he let clay davis take him for suitcases full of cash
True about Clay, but I feel like that was Stringer having an overall lack of experience in the business world. And I get the give and take between him and Avon, I just think if Avon hadn't gotten out of jail and farged things up, Stringer could have kept things running smoothly.
Stringer was keeping violence to a minimum when he was in charge. It brings together part of the irony in the show. McNulty et al wanted Stringer at all costs, but if Stringer goes, someone who has a greater tendency towards "drug wars" ala Marlo or Avon comes to power and all hell breaks lose. I really think taking Stringer out of the equation is an overall negative for the police but I guess part of that can be answered in seasons 4/5.
i would contend that no one was more street smart than stringer in that he knew the best way to go was to take shtein away from the corners (much like prop joe)...stringer came up as hard and did as much dirt as anyone in baltimore...he could have been wee bey if he wanted but he choose a different path
and clay davis got over on people a hell of a lot smarter than stringer bell...i wouldnt say that him stinging stringer makes a statement either way on stringers "smarts"
Wee Bey is probably my favorite character in the whole show.
i love weebay but hes way to one dimensional to be the best on a show like the wire...plus he doesnt get enough airtime
bodie is the GOAT
mind you i'm starting over again, still on season 1 disk 5 now. I just love wee bey's smarts when it comes to dealing with situations and shootouts. No hesitation
d'angelo barksdale was in friday night lights a couple weeks ago. i gave him a one minute ovation. im not kidding. i literally clapped for a while when he popped up on screen. and this show already has wallace in it.
i think i shouted where the boy at string like 15 times. im a massive dork.
Herc appeared on 24 as a *gasp* aggressive cop who started kicking the shtein out of Jack Bauer because he thought he was a cop killer
Just finished season 4. Season 3 was my favorite but season 4 was pretty awesome. I have to agree with IGY that Bodie is the farging man. There are so many good characters on the show though. Season 2 was my least favorite because I could give a farg about the docks. The Greeks were pretty sweet but the union bored me.
altho it switches pretty regularly i deem season 4 as the best year (nothing like four has ever been done in television history) but season 2 is my favorite
i cant fathom how the docks could bore anyone...chris bauer and pablo schrieber give arguably the two best performances in the history of the show and they both are dock workers
Nico was great, wife and i are one episode 3 of season 2.
Yeah he was. I just found Ziggy to be mind numbingly annoying and basically the only character on the show to be a caricature. I dunno I just was never as interested in the dock as Avon's organization, the school system, Carcetti, or now Marlo.
i thought i was going to hate season 2 also, because after learning so much about the characters in season one it seemed like it would only be a letdown learning these new guys, but after a few episodes i really liked it. it's up there as one of the two best seasons for me also.
For my $$ best scene so far :
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oYj7q_by_2E&feature=related
just came across this...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FTe9LHtVp14&feature=player_embedded#
Quote from: Eagles_Legendz on January 28, 2010, 09:45:44 AM
For my $$ best scene so far :
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oYj7q_by_2E&feature=related
i dont think i would put that in even my top 10 scenes but that is how great the show is and nothing at all against the courtroom scene which is an amazing 7-8 minutes
one of the most underrated lines in the shows history is early in that scene....where omar walks in strutting like the cock of the walk as mcnutty and some of the barksdale people look on
omar walks by the barksdale crew and points at them casually...smiling the whole time...and stringer mutters out the most venomous and frustrated piece of unintentional comedy ever...
"fa***ot..."
that looks horrible
Maybe its the horrible acting, music, and clips, but they should leave that crap to American Gangster, and Simon
that looks unwatchable
treme in like 3 months. there.
Watched the Avon/Marlo scene from season 5 and that scene rivaled one of the best scenes ever.
My favorite scenes in the show (probably forgetting many)
-Omar testifying
-Avon/Stringer on the roof
-Chess scene with D
-Wallace's death/D going nuts about it
-Brother Mouzone/Omar conversation in the alley
-Both of them v. Stringer
-Cutty talking shtein to the drug dealer when he's trying to talk to Michael before getting shot in the leg (I know it's a minor scene but he's still badass in it)
Ok so I have no life tonight and I've been binging on the wire. ARE YOU fargING SERIOUS ABOUT KILLING OMAR OFF LIKE THAT? Jesus farging christ. I know the show doesn't like to dramatize things but that's just wrong. Worst death ever. I understand the irony of it and maybe I just wanted him glorified more, but give me a break. Every other major character went out better (besides maybe D). Compare his death scene to Stringer and Bodie's or Prop Joe. You can't tell me that he deserves that.
I thought it was pitch perfect. It's a succinct commentary on the game. All it takes to erase the king is that when you come at the him you best not miss. Even if you don't know he's the king.
Quote from: Diomedes on January 30, 2010, 07:50:26 AM
I thought it was pitch perfect. It's a succinct commentary on the game. All it takes to erase the king is that when you come at the him you best not miss. Even if you don't know he's the king.
couldnt agree more...killing off the gamest cat out there in such a simple unhyped way is what its all about...anyone can get got...especially if youre slippin at all...omar was clearly losing his edge...all the blood on his hands took its toll and boiled over when butchie got killed...once he went back to bmore you knew it was over...he became reckless and uncaring and lost his edge
plus i like the added touch of kenard doing him as he was one of the little kids imitating omar after tosh got killed in the stashhouse robbery gone bad...btw its little stuff like that you pick up after watching the series for a 3rd 4th 5th....time
Quote from: ice grillin you on January 30, 2010, 08:18:48 AMplus i like the added touch of kenard doing him as he was one of the little kids imitating omar after tosh got killed in the stashhouse robbery gone bad...btw its little stuff like that you pick up after watching the series for a 3rd 4th 5th....time
or if you pay attention, the first time
theres no chance anyone has ever gotten that the first time...or if you somehow did youre the only one ive ever heard of...
congrats
I miss nothing
did you know that Omar is homosexual? it's true. pay attention the next time you watch and you'll pick it up
i didnt even know he had a scar until season four
so i heard the wire is pretty good.
can anyone tell me why?
you wouldn't get it
stick to Lost
i wouldn't get it because i'm a white guy from the suburbs of philly who has no fargin clue what it's like to live in a crime-infested inner city hell hole.
and i have no interest in finding out either.
The Wire is probably the best made show that I've seen. The secondary characters like Slim Charles, Bodie, Colvin, Cutty, Wee-Bay, etc are better than the major characters on most shows.
I still like Lost the most but I have no problem admitting to being completely obsessed with that show, bordering on IGY with The Wire.
I finished the series. Ep 9 and 10 were very strong in what was a mediocre 5th season in my opinion.
I know I'm in the minority but I'd rank the seasons:
3
4, 1, 2
5
I liked Stringer and Avon's story so much I just didn't feel the show was the same without them on screen. I didn't like season 5 as much just because I didn't like the journalism side story that much and I thought the homeless "killings" got a little ridiculous. It did do a lot to push Joe and Charles pretty high up on my favorite characters list.
Quote from: Rome on January 30, 2010, 10:22:42 AM
i wouldn't get it because i'm a white guy from the suburbs of philly who has no fargin clue what it's like to live in a crime-infested inner city hell hole.
and i have no interest in finding out either.
that plus being old, ignorant and stupid
I saw that The Corner is onDemand...I'm gonna check it out.
back in 07 when igy made the wire thread season 5 was coming out. I never had the desire to watch the thing, nor did I ever once click into the thread as I thought it was just another 21 jumpstreet type of cop beats bad guy thing... but on HBO.
it wasnt until one day 2 weeks ago I was in the airport and saw all of the seasons sitting there for $60/piece. I bought season 1 for the hell of it to see if I would like it.
I have to say this was one of the most addicting series/tv shows I have ever watched in my life. luckily my boy had the other 4 seasons and the rest was history. fascinating story I know...but just wanted to say appreciate it for leading me on to it
lol OLD MAN REESE, LADIES AND GENTLEMAN
OLD MAN REESE
to a 22 yr old sure...but to the majority of heads in here not even close
you'll figure it out one day
Welcome aboard reese
stringer didnt watch the wire
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/film/starsandstories/7512657/Idris-Elba-Man-on-a-mission.html
DEAD TO ME
He's from Britain?
I did not know that.
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on March 31, 2010, 09:10:59 PM
He's from Britain?
I did not know that.
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:-D
I've just never heard him drop an accent. I knew McNulty hailed from the land of fish 'n chips and bad teeth, but not Stringer.
Watch RockNRolla for the limey Stringer lip.
isnt he also english on the office
http://weblogs.baltimoresun.com/entertainment/zontv/
no, he had an american accent in the Office
He was awesome in the Prom Night remake...
David Simon is on with Colbert right now if anything cares...which is doubtful.
id care if he was there promoting a new wire box set and not treme
Quote from: ice grillin you on April 08, 2010, 07:38:44 AM
id care if he was there promoting a new wire box set and not treme
2 days ago HBO was running a 20% off all Wire merchandise promo. I picked up a t-shirt. Box sets were included.
doesnt hbo just jack up the prices then put them on 20% off...like 20% off there isnt the same as 20% off on amazon for example
Box set was $249.99 regulary, so it would have been $200 with the 20% off code. You could probably find all 5 seasons on amazon for $100-$150.
http://store.hbo.com/?v=hbo_shows_the-wire
or you can get the box set for $129.99 on amazon
id like to have the box set but i cant validate dropping the cash when i have all five seasons already
if someone wants to buy them from me for 50 ill put that towards a box set tho
one thing idont like about the box set is each disc goes into a paper sleeve. The set itself is nice, i just worry about the discs getting scratched sliding on the paper
Quote from: SunMo on April 08, 2010, 09:00:11 AM
or you can get the box set for $129.99 on amazon
The ladyfriend got it for me for like half that at Costco.
Costco has most of the HBO series for about $20 a pop.
Quote from: ice grillin you on April 08, 2010, 09:03:05 AM
id like to have the box set but i cant validate dropping the cash when i have all five seasons already
if someone wants to buy them from me for 50 ill put that towards a box set tho
If you're serious then yeah I'll buy them from you for that price. You going to the Phils game on Thursday by any chance?
thursday today?
my first home game isnt until may 1
they are yours....make it 60 and ill ship them to you...otherwise next time i see you
No next thursday
PM me your address and I'll send you a check
Quote from: Seabiscuit36 on April 08, 2010, 09:16:07 AM
one thing idont like about the box set is each disc goes into a paper sleeve. The set itself is nice, i just worry about the discs getting scratched sliding on the paper
you mean like cardboard how some cd's come right...not like a paper sleeve a computer disk would go in
i need the box set because i watch the whole series at least once a year and its always on the train to florida....and its such a bitch having to bring five different sets
yeah, its that cardboard sleeve setup, its really nice, and nice to have it all in one small condensed set, i just get worried about scratching them
lol @ such a bitch
im sure its the most difficult thing ever.
IGY, if your traveling, i'd just get a DVD travel bag/cd thing, they're like 3 bucks, and it'll be smaller than the box set. I know how you are with CD's so you probably just want the Box set, its pretty nice.
Just finished up Season 3 last night. Wifey was so happy when Stringer met his maker. Avon going down still bothers me. Great finish to the season, and i cant wait to see season 4 again.
only a female could be happy about string dying
she hated his backstabbing, and banging D's girl.
at the very least hes a top 5 character
easily, and to see him gone and Avon back in jail
just finished this book...it was suprisingly good and a must read for any wire crazies
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I'm clicking, but it wont let me look
click the hammer on one of your thousand guns and place on temple
too messy
for real...the bay is right there, full of crabs (60% more than last year, if you believe the State) to clean you up nice
Speaking of crabs, they really must be up, because we just got 2 dozen last sunday from down Chestertown, really full crabs for this time of year.
Quote from: ice grillin you on April 15, 2010, 11:40:40 AM
just finished this book...it was suprisingly good and a must read for any wire crazies
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How'd you finish it?
I went to B & N last week and they said it would not be released until this week.
They just called and said it was in - gonna go scoop it up tomorrow
i got it from amazon like a month ago
wasnt it written after season 2
maybe?
i never heard of it till i got it...i thought it was new
i remember looking into it a while ago and it came out either in between 1 and 2 or 2 and 3
you read it you dont know
did it mention marlo
The people at B & N made it sound like it was new
yeah it has all the seasons...it has like episode guides and stuff...maybe they released it after seaosn 1 or 2 with just those seasons and this is a new edition that includes all
ah then give it me now that you are dones with it
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on April 23, 2010, 11:03:06 PM
The people at B & N made it sound like it was new
It came out last fall, if not earlier...
the paperback is coming out next week.
I scooped it up yesterday and will delve into it this weekend. :yay
if you only read simons prologue and never picked up the book again it would be worth the purchase
Funny stuff from the Onion:
http://www.theonion.com/articles/new-david-simon-project-to-investigate-happy-upper,17426/
QuoteNew David Simon Project To Investigate Happy, Upper-Middle-Class Streets Of Wilmette, IL
May 15, 2010 | ISSUE 46•19
06.05.02 NEW YORK—Speaking at an HBO press junket Monday, acclaimed writer-producer David Simon, creator of the gritty urban dramas The Wire and Treme, announced that his next project will be an epic, multilayered examination of the contented and comfortable streets of suburban Wilmette, IL.
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Critics have praised the show's true-to-life depiction of Wilmette's occasional recycling-pickup problem.
According to Simon, the sprawling new series, tentatively titled The Township, will offer a searing and unsentimental glimpse into the happy social fabric of modern-day Wilmette, an area known for its deeply untroubled history and well-functioning political structure.
"As a writer, my mission is to tell a story that makes viewers think about how conditions in American cities are created," Simon told reporters. "We can't just turn our back on the staggering levels of happiness occurring in a place like Wilmette and say, 'Well, that's not my life.' We have to confront this tranquility head-on and shine a light on the institutions that are responsible for it."
Added Simon, "I want this show to be an unflinching dissection of how the system has in no way failed the people of this town."
According to HBO sources, the novelistic series will chronicle the interconnected web of police officers, politicians, tradespeople, teachers, and ordinary families who are "all complicit" in perpetuating the cycle of institutional effectiveness that makes Wilmette the seventh best place in the country to raise children.
Using these disparate strands, Simon hopes to weave a narrative of civil ease and affluence that extends all the way from Wilmette's happy schoolchildren to the competent, fairly elected trustees of its Village Board.
"Each episode will explore, in unsparing detail, many different facets of Wilmette," Simon said. "One might begin by depicting the productive bureaucracy lurking behind the Wilmette PTA, and then suddenly shift its focus to the struggles of a Wilmette policewoman desperately trying to settle on the right color scheme for a new addition to her home."
"It's a panorama," Simon continued. "A panorama that asks, 'What are the inherent niceties that bind these characters together?'"
The Township will feature an ensemble cast, including actors Wendell Pierce and Dominic West from The Wire as a pair of successful, well-adjusted real estate agents who occasionally grab one quick drink after work before returning home to the families they love.
Simon also confirmed that he had hired a number of his usual writing collaborators, including hard-edged urban-crime author Richard Price, to help realistically capture the pleasant, grammatically impeccable vernacular used on the nice streets of Wilmette. Real-life citizens of the town will also be cast in various small roles to lend the show an intense, you-are-there quality.
"It's crucial to the veracity of the series that we depict Wilmette as it really is, frills and all," said Simon, who claimed that shooting at the actual promenades and well-maintained public spaces of Wilmette will provide a powerful sense of authenticity. "The tree-lined avenues, the manicured lawns, the quaint but state-of-the-art school buildings—we're going to take all these things, put them on the screen, and say, 'See? This, this, is the real Wilmette.'"
Simon concluded his announcement by stressing that, even under pressure from the network, he would not shy away from portraying some of the tougher elements of Wilmette life that take place each and every day.
"The truth is that some pretty unpleasant things happen in Wilmette," Simon said. "Sometimes it rains. Sometimes a kid accidentally leaves his backpack at school. Our goal is to show how these problems develop."
Added Simon, "And to show how they are quickly resolved, too."
from david murphys blog today...
But numbers are numbers, and right now, the Mariners couldn't buy a hit if they played their home games in Hamsterdam.
lol
Got yo WMDs!
I really need to rewatch this series.
murphy is a douche. damn fonzi picture. i dont want him talking about the wire.
Shut up.
men should act like men, russell. like men.
http://popwatch.ew.com/2010/06/01/100-greatest-characters-of-last-20-years-full-list/
Entertainment Weekly top 100 characters over the last 20 years:
Quote
100. Tim Riggins from Friday Night Lights
99. The Bride from Kill Bill
98. Lisbeth Salander from The Girl With the Dragon Tattoo and its sequels
97. Violet Weston from August: Osage County
96. Bernie Mac from The Bernie Mac Show
95. Wilhelmina from Ugly Betty
94. Truman from The Truman Show
93. Game Boys: Nathan Drake from the Uncharted series; Kratos from the God of War series; and Niko Bellic from Grand Theft Auto IV
92. Christopher Boone from The Curious Incident of the Dog in Night-Time
91. Hancock from Hancock
90. Marge Gunderson from Fargo
89. Wikus van de Merwe from District 9
88. Napoleon Dynamite from Napoleon Dynamite
87. Tony Stark from the Iron Man series
86. Karen Walker and Jack McFarland from Will & Grace
85. Daniel Plainview from There Will Be Blood
84. Dr. Gregory House from House, M.D.
83. Jen Yu from Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon
82. Tracy Flick from Election
81. Amanda Woodward from Melrose Place
80. Gorillaz, the animated rock band
79. Elphaba from Wicked
78. Patty Hewes from Damages
77. Mimi Marquez from Rent
76. Tyler Durden from Fight Club
75. David Brent from The Office (original version)
74. Don Draper from Mad Men
73. Catherine Trammell from Basic Instinct
72. Kara "Starbuck" Thrace from Battlestar Galactica
71. Det. Alonzo Harris from Training Day
70. Mary Katherine Gallagher from Saturday Night Live
69. Miranda Priestly from The Devil Wears Prada
68. Effie White from Dreamgirls
67. Borat from Borat: Cultural Learnings of America for Make Benefit Glorious Nation of Kazakhstan
66. Allie and Noah from The Notebook
65. Lorelai and Rory Gilmore from Gilmore Girls
64. Maximus from Gladiator
63. John Locke from Lost
62. Jimmy Corrigan from Jimmy Corrigan: The Smartest Kid on Earth
61. Vic Mackey from The Shield
60. Mary Jones from Precious: Based on the Novel Push by Saphhire
59. Master Chief from the Halo series
58. Thelma and Louise from Thelma & Louise
57. Clayton Bigsby from Chappelle's Show
56. Barney Stinson from How I Met Your Mother
55. Tracy Jordan from 30 Rock
54. Juno from Juno
53. Edward Cullen from the Twilight saga
52. Annie Wilkes from Misery
51. Omar Little from The Wire
50. Pearl the Landlord from FunnyorDie.com
49. Vivian Ward from Pretty Woman
48. Red from The Shawshank Redemption
47. Corky St. Clair Waiting for Guffman
46. Jerry Maguire from Jerry Maguire
45. Stewie Griffin from Family Guy
44. Jack Bauer from 24
43. Cal Stephanides from Middlesex
42. Sydney Bristow from Alias
41. Harold and Kumar from the Harold & Kumar series
40. Ron Burgundy from Anchorman: The Legend of Ron Burgundy
39. Gob Bluth from Arrested Development
38. Elmo from Sesame Street
37. Keyser Söze from The Usual Suspects
36. Gollum from The Lord of the Rings
35. Dexter Morgan from Dexter
34. Cher from Clueless
33. Sarah Connor from Terminator 2: Judgment Day
32. Beavis and Butt-Head from Beavis and Butt-Head
31. Forrest Gump from Forrest Gump
30. "Stephen Colbert" from The Colbert Report
29. Vincent Vega and Jules Winnfield from Pulp Fiction
28. Madea from several Tyler Perry films and plays
27. Frasier from Frasier
26. Kavalier and Clay from The Amazing Adventures of Kavalier & Clay
25. Woody from the Toy Story series
24. Felicity Porter from Felicity
23. Austin Powers from the Austin Powers series
22. Eric Cartman from South Park
21. Roseanne Conner from Roseanne
20. Ally McBeal from Ally McBeal
19. Morpheus from The Matrix series
18. Sue Sylvester from Glee
17. Lara Croft from the Tomb Raider franchise
16. Bridget Jones from the Bridget Jones series
15. Shrek from the Shrek series
14. Jeff "The Dude" Lebowski from The Big Lebowski
13. Jack Sparrow from the Pirates of the Caribbean series
12. Fox Mulder and Dana Scully from The X-Files
11. Cosmo Kramer from Seinfeld
10. SpongeBob SquarePants from SpongeBob SquarePants
9. Carrie Bradshaw from Sex and the City
8. Hannibal Lecter from The Silence of the Lambs and its sequels
7. Edward Scissorhands from Edward Scissorhands
6. Rachel Green from Friends
5. The Joker from The Dark Knight
4. Tony Soprano from The Sopranos
3. Buffy from Buffy the Vampire Slayer
2. Harry Potter from the Harry Potter series
1. Homer Simpson from The Simpsons
What a stupid farging list.
Maximus from Gladiator? Really?
RIP Bernie Mac
gotta love bernie mac being on the list for playing bernie mac
dude was talented
weekly mags like taking holiday weekends off
this is the kind of silly fluff that gets published to make that possible
also i just locked myself in for 2+ more years of ew. its great shteinter read.
full box set is 89.99 today only on amazon
http://www.amazon.com/gp/goldbox/ref=cs_top_nav_gb27
anyone wanna buy the set igy sold me?
i got it for 80 2 years ago
Quote from: SD on June 03, 2010, 01:48:45 PM
anyone wanna buy the set igy sold me?
be glad you got them...if i had to do it over i wouldnt have sold the individual seasons...sb told me how the discs didnt have cases in the box set but i didnt really understand what he was saying until i got it...its awful
but if you wanna trade them back to me for the box set ill do it
btw you can almost always get the box set on ebay for 50-60 bucks...thats what i did when i made our deal
http://cgi.ebay.com/New-Wire-Complete-Series-Seasons-1-5-Boxset-DVD-/230482933377?cmd=ViewItem&pt=US_DVD_HD_DVD_Blu_ray&hash=item35a9da7681
whats the difference between the amazon link you posted and that ebay one?
nothing....i just dont normally post ebay links because its not "official" and i dont want someone getting ripped off on a link i posted...errr magazine subscriptions.....and some people get shook in general when dealing on ebay
but i got my set off ebay a couple months ago for that price...different seller tho
ha, yeah that magazine thing was whack. that's the only time in my life i've ever got ripped from there though.
Quote from: ice grillin you on June 03, 2010, 02:29:54 PM
Quote from: SD on June 03, 2010, 01:48:45 PM
anyone wanna buy the set igy sold me?
be glad you got them...if i had to do it over i wouldnt have sold the individual seasons...sb told me how the discs didnt have cases in the box set but i didnt really understand what he was saying until i got it...its awful
but if you wanna trade them back to me for the box set ill do it
btw you can almost always get the box set on ebay for 50-60 bucks...thats what i did when i made our deal
I was being facetious but thank you again for your generosity
not that i care all that much but i was being serious if you want the box set ill trade you it for the indy seasons
I'd do that trade but they're loaned out. Sucks to be you.
paintball
http://movingmountainsnyc.org/paintball2010.php
Poot
http://www.washingtonian.com/articles/people/15889.html (http://www.washingtonian.com/articles/people/15889.html)
'double g' glekas is on espn
i lent my wire box set to a friend and just got this in an email from her...
Just finished season 1. At first I was like "what is going on, this isn't bad, but it's not SUPER FANTABULOUS AMAZING". Then at about episode 5 or 6 it got really awesome and now it's the best season of any tv show Ive seen". I think the problem was at first it took me a while to keep track of everyone. Now I can't wait for season two.
on Directv, the 101 will start showing The Wire every thursday starting July 15th
paley media center says omar dying is the no. 11 biggest tv shocker ever
oprah getting everyone a car was no. 1
how was omar dying even close to a shocker
at best it was 50/50 whether he was gonna die...in fact that was the number one talking point suring season five...would omar live or not
probably how it happened?
i think it was voted on by the general public, so blame america.
oh how that little twat just came out of nowhere
i can live with that
On Sunday, there was a trailer for the new hbo show about atlantic city with steve buschemi and I thought I saw Omar in a scene.
yea hes in it
yeah hes in it...not sure how big a part tho...that show has incredibly potential but for some reason i feel like its gonna disappoint
that show looks great.
I would think so IGY, i never saw him going out like that, it was so damn quick and unexpected
Quote from: ice grillin you on June 17, 2010, 01:14:36 PM
yeah hes in it...not sure how big a part tho...that show has incredibly potential but for some reason i feel like its gonna disappoint
Quote from: KDS on June 17, 2010, 01:14:20 PM
yea hes in it
why dont we just get married
Quote from: ice grillin you on June 17, 2010, 01:14:36 PM
yeah hes in it...not sure how big a part tho...that show has incredibly potential but for some reason i feel like its gonna disappoint
i have the same feeling. it's buschemi, scorsesse, mobster shtein...all of which should make for a great show, but i have this feeling it's going to miss
I hope its good. I forgot all about that. WHen is it due to come out?
I was pissed that Omar got capped that way. But the fact that it shows that even the baddest sonofabitch in the game can be had at anytime is great.
as nasty as omar was being soft is what ultimately killed him...someone like marlo never would have gotten all emotional to the point of slippin like omar did
Quote from: ice grillin you on June 17, 2010, 07:55:30 AM
i lent my wire box set to a friend and just got this in an email from her...
Just finished season 1. At first I was like "what is going on, this isn't bad, but it's not SUPER FANTABULOUS AMAZING". Then at about episode 5 or 6 it got really awesome and now it's the best season of any tv show Ive seen". I think the problem was at first it took me a while to keep track of everyone. Now I can't wait for season two.
^riveting info there^
stick to seinfeld old man
i wonder what is his old man nickname is for blacks. if he were jewish it would schvatas. i figure he doesnt use stillupfronts unless really mad. what do old racist white men call blacks in a casual format while at the lodge?
spooks
is that because their chocolate faces "spook" them
Quote from: KDS on June 19, 2010, 01:09:48 PMwhat do old racist white men call blacks in a casual format while at the lodge?
stillupfront
boy
^^^
ha
best answer
Never really got into Seinfeld. But if I did it would be more interesting than anything you post about your freinds opinion of the wire.
Sitcoms in general don't interest me, they seem fake. People never really act like that. I know it's entertaining to a lot of people, I just ain't one of 'em.
Quote from: shorebird on June 19, 2010, 11:00:21 PM
Never really got into Seinfeld. But if I did it would be more interesting than anything you post about your freinds opinion of the wire.
Sitcoms in general don't interest me, they seem fake. People never really act like that. I know it's entertaining to a lot of people, I just ain't one of 'em.
And your point is? Besides the one on your jew boy head?
i honestly cant tell if hes serious or joking
he dont joke
well its good he reminded me, i have to clean my horn at least once a week. it gets dirty having it hide it all the time.
good thing your foreskin was cut, you'd forget to clean that too
Quote from: KDS on June 20, 2010, 03:09:20 AM
i honestly cant tell if hes serious or joking
Geez, I didn't know you cared so much. I'll try to do better next time. I mean, you set such a good example and all...
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holy crap ive never seen more ghostly people in my life
the wire can make even the whitest wedding black...is there nothing it cant do
wire = goat tv show
That's some snazzy ass attire. Their shoes probably cost more than my entire wardrobe. Eagle jersey's and all.
Bub's shoes = i want
No doubt. Those are dope.
He's got em on special for fo niney nine at Bub's Depot
Quote from: SD on June 28, 2010, 10:58:30 PM
He's got em on special for fo niney nine at Bub'sDepot
just burned through season 1 again
would be in 2 but its out on loan. perfect that im holed in the bachelor pad for 2 days now.
the wire on multiple rewatches > anything on tv ever
I'm starting my third time through tonight, figure I'll watch an episode every night until I finished.
Is there a better quotable show out there than the Wire?
watch the mcnulty you are a gaping icehole scene again and tell me john doman isnt a god
its all in the eyes. look at this eyes.
I'm gonna start Season One this weekend. :yay
I SWEAR TO CHRIST WE WILL BEAT YOU LONGER AND HARDER THAN YOU BEAT YOUR OWN fargING DICK!
http://www.myfoxdetroit.com/dpps/news/comedian-jon-gnarr-elected-mayor-of-reykjavik-iceland-dpgoh-20100628-fc_8366037
lol
be a much better world if more people did things like this
this pic will change tomorrow but what does it remind you of, minus the dope?
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every drug/weapon bust photo op ever taken
we just had one here a week or so ago, table cloth, photo in paper, etc.
Quote from: ice grillin you on July 17, 2010, 01:42:39 PM
every drug/weapon bust photo op ever taken
IM TRYING TO TALK ABOUT THE GREATNESS OF THE WIRE HERE
End of season 3 when Avon gets busted?
Did I win?
Quote from: KDS on July 17, 2010, 01:53:28 PMIM TRYING TO TALK ABOUT THE GREATNESS OF THE WIRE HERE
sad little man be quiet
What's "The Wire?"
My zombie room
Starts on DirecTV tonight in HD uncut and without commercial interruption? Is there enough room on the bandwagon?
you can sit on the lil guys lap
Season 4 is on Comcast ondemand. I couldn't sleep the other night so I watched the first episode, now I'm hooked back in. Greatest show ever. The more I watch it the more I appreciate the greatness of Lester Freeman.
Quote from: ice grillin you on July 18, 2010, 07:31:05 PM
you can sit on the lil guys lap
I would crush him to death. Is that OK with you?
its all in the game
Time to start watching again. I'm checkin in out on DTV 101....I'm excited for my second time through.
Quote from: hunt on May 01, 2007, 03:44:05 PM
"when i was your age, we used to fight with our fists...not with guns...blah, blah, blah."
i've seen that scene a million times in a million different tv shows and movies. it's boring, it's played out, & it's crap.
Quote from: FastFreddie on July 18, 2010, 07:39:42 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on July 18, 2010, 07:31:05 PM
you can sit on the lil guys lap
I would crush him to death. Is that OK with you?
theres no way youre fat
you are a lot of terrible things, and a lot of confusingly good things, but fat you are not.
gay-yes.
stupid-yes.
creepy-most def.
Hooked again.
You guys were spot on about catching the little shtein the second time around. Now that I can look deeper into the show knowing what went down already and find the intricate things.
GOAT.
watching it the second time makes you wonder even more how so many people can say they couldnt get into it until like the 6-7-8th episode of season one
i was hooked half way thru ep 1
I liked it from the beginning of season 1. The only time I felt less than enthusiastic about the show was the beginning of season 2. I thought the first two episodes were slow, probably because I liked the characters from season 1 so much that I wasn't expecting an entire new crew that I didn't know to get a majority of the air time in the new season.
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what
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Chris Partlow in season 1
I'm on disk three of season three and I have to say, Wendell Pierce is one of the best actors I've seen.
He's fantastic in that role. Pitch perfect.
tv just doesnt get any better than this
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1wmgghlEagA
ya happy now ya bitch
In terms of acting performances for the entire series he is 1-2 with john doman
Quote from: ice grillin you on August 22, 2010, 05:15:57 PM
tv just doesnt get any better than this
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1wmgghlEagA
I agree. Funny how almost right after posting about Pierce, I watched the disk with that very scene. Just fortified my opinion.
I liked how Bunk's words struck a cord with Omar and he couldn't shake it. At least Bunk ended up getting the gun back.
Chord. You strike a chord. You play a progression of chords.
Cord. You cut a cord. You wrap a cord around the neck of the guy who points out your mistakes.
HOW CAN YOU HAVE ANY PUDDING IF YOU DON'T EAT YOUR MEAT?!?!
shore is IN
romey you next!
mike schur is on the sepinwall podcast making a pitch at how the sopranos is 1b to the wires 1a.
how someone can think like this after claiming to see the wire twice is beyond me. staggering munsion level stupidity. even shore is in and im 99% sure hes a klan member.
i dont think its close but i have no problem with that....the sopranos first whatever years were awesome...in fact i dont have a problem with people who say sopranos is better...its not like saying lost is 1b...shtein i think its great that someone thinks the wire is better
kevin finnerty
Quote from: ice grillin you on August 23, 2010, 06:52:21 PM
i dont think its close but i have no problem with that....the sopranos first whatever years were awesome...in fact i dont have a problem with people who say sopranos is better...its not like saying lost is 1b...shtein i think its great that someone thinks the wire is better
I just finished season 3 of the Soprano's about an hour ago (Omar makes an appearance). I didn't care for season 1, season 2 got better, and season 3 was pretty good. It has it's moments but overall I don't see how any one can watch it and compare it to the Wire. Soprano's takes a concept and tailors a story around it. I thought the writing in the early seasons was a little shallow, they used it to pump up a single character then mixed in some psychology to make the show seem deeper than it was...although eason 3 did a little better job. I always felt the Wire delved deeper into it's own world and made all the pieces fit like no other show has. Even the secondary characters in the Wire are far and away better than the decent characters in the Soprano's.
As far as crime/drugs shows go that I watch I'd rank them:
The Wire
Breaking Bad
The Soprano's
the wire is one trillion times better than sopranos and breaking bad combined...im just saying the wire isnt for everyone (hence its viewership and emmy totals) and those people could do a lot worse than saying the sopranos is ...thats all im saying
its not for everyone, youre right
but someone who has seen both twice and claims to worship both puts them essentially equal
thats just wrong is what im saying
thats true....i dont see how you could have watched and loved the wire and think anything approaches it
especially a show that spent half of the time between the 3rd season the end in horrendously boring dream sequences
omg dont remind me...that was soooo painful
how anyone can sit through that then say its equal to frank sobtaka and edward tillman middle is beyond me
in fact this person ceases to exist
Quote from: ice grillin you on August 23, 2010, 06:52:21 PM
i dont think its close but i have no problem with that....the sopranos first whatever years were awesome...in fact i dont have a problem with people who say sopranos is better...its not like saying lost is 1b...shtein i think its great that someone thinks the wire is better
*Lost is 1a.
you should not have taken the bait
Just stating the facts. Through the Looking Glass = greatest television episode of all time.
its not bait its just a popular show that isnt any good but has tons of fanboys so its a perfect example of lunacy when comparing something to the wire...i couldnt really come up with another example
ill argue with someone all night about sopranos vs wire...and have
i dont have the interest to even argue lost being a bad vs a good show much less it being better than the wire...people who think that are hopeless and unamerican
Quote from: Eagles_Legendz on August 23, 2010, 09:28:56 PM
Just stating the facts. Through the Looking Glass = greatest television episode of all time.
QFT.
Seriously though, I love The Wire and think the show is amazing and has production values that probably aren't paralleled anywhere in TV. I'll argue to the end of the earth that Lost is a legitimately good show, but there's no point in this thread.
lost is awful but theres an argument to be made for it being a good show...its just not my cup of tea...but to put it anywhere near the wire....well....just no
if you seriously think that lost is as good as the wire, youre hopless
even lindelof and cuse would tell you how off base you are
'Good' is a useless term.
Do I think any show on network TV could do what The Wire or the Sopranos or even Mad Men has done in terms of the pure show quality/production? Probably not.
I can say I got more into Lost and was more interested/entertained by it than any show I've ever seen, which has to be considered when discussing favorites, no?
if its your favorite, thats cool. nobody will kill you or care.
but the question was best. and lost is a 3rd grade play compared to the wire.
and i liked lost, i saw every ep. but it was extremely flawed and they admitted to stalling, going off in silly directions, etc.
Quote from: KDS on August 23, 2010, 09:50:48 PM
they admitted to stalling, going off in silly directions, etc.
because it was a cash cow for abc and they had to do anything possible to extend it as long as they could
compare that to simon who had to write a manifesto to hbo just to get his pilot aired and then more or less got cancelled after almost every season...he stayed hungry till the end and had a message that he thought to be uber important and that message was going to be put forth in the highest quality tv had ever seen so matter what it took
I actually thought one of the strengths of Lost versus other network tv shows was that they announced an end date half way through the show. The beginning of season 3 is when they stalled for various reasons, but there was always a sense of momentum from the end of season 3 on because you knew it was building to a conclusion instead of other shows which just proceed indefinitely.
I've been DVR'ing the episodes on DirecTV's 101 each Sunday night and prior to starting they have a little 30 second or so clip with Simon talking about various things.
This past week he talked about how he met with the Mayor prior to him turning in the pilot to HBO and said "this is a dark show and if you don't want it in Baltimore, let me know". So the Mayor says no problem.
After season one the Mayor was pissed off and actually withdrew the filming permits for season two. He then had a 45-minute conversation with him saying he would move the show. But the mayor asked if it would still be about Baltimore, to which Simon replied yes. So once the Mayor realized that Philly or Wilmington would get the cash and the series would still be about Baltimore, he relented and hung up in Simon's face.
heard that story before, its a good one
also noticed that the dude from the "thanks for being you" scene early in season 4 is later getting high with sherrod in the car before sherrod all bugged out tries to beat up namond outside cuttys spot.
Wilmington actually would have been a good spot to shoot based on architecture of the buildings for season 2, mainly a dying port, and the zesty houses around it
Port of Wilmington...good times.
Almost a s fancy as Marcus Hook woo hoo
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i heard that snoop is going to be a guest on anthony bourdain's 100th episode this month. i have no idea how someone would know that but that's the word.
Quote from: phattymatty on September 03, 2010, 09:57:38 AM
i heard that snoop is going to be a guest on anthony bourdain's 100th episode this month. i have no idea how someone would know that but that's the word.
I think she was already on an episode.
yeah when he did his rust belt series she was on the baltimore episode
and the show is monday nite after the annual labor day NR marathon so im sure its been seen by critics
what the farg are you douches talking about
There's a character named Snoop on this show called The Wire. Maybe you've heard of it. The actress who portrays Snoop made an appearance on this other show, about food and travel, hosted by a smug douchebag and former Baltimore heroin addict Anthony Bourdain. The rest of the banter is irrelevant.
Need any more help?
Weak, she looks a little like a dude.
I will say i love Bourdain, his hate for Rachel Ray and other sellouts warms my heart.
Sure. Don't me he ain't a smug douchebag.
i see you found the Gin already
Quote from: Diomedes on September 03, 2010, 03:07:13 PM
Sure. Don't me he ain't a smug douchebag.
altho i can kind of see people seeing that in him he is one of the more self depreciating people around...its just that hes very forward and in your face at times...also hes not from baltimore...just worked there for a couple months and left because he said it was the worst most depressing place hes ever been...and thats saying something coming from someone who was on crack when he lived there
bourdain in a nutshell is one of my heros
pathetic
If my life is like his when I'm his age I will have done something right. Traveling the world to eat good food and get drunk constantly? In.
You want the be a hero to the likes of vigy?
Pass.
Actually Havas doesn't regularly enter my mind when I'm making judgements about things, but otherwise, quality post.
Bourdain has been doing what he loves for years and years, including a lot of recreational drugs (but who's counting?). He is really living the dream. And I love shteinting all over the WIRE thread.
You can live the dream and be a snob. Happens all the time.
Right, and?
He is 100000 times more tolerable than every other food personality in the world. Any food/travel snobishness is instantly forgiven when he makes fun of himself for being a smoking, drinking, former crackhead who happens to be the luckiest SOB on Earth. He knows what he is and he's fine with it. Don't see much of that in the spotlight.
To be honest I hated him at first too. Probably for the reasons Dio dislikes him still. But now he's the only food show host that I'll watch.
And Bourdain is both.
vigy is only the latter.
Quote from: rjs246 on September 03, 2010, 05:00:05 PMHe is 100000 times more tolerable than every other food personality in the world.
I call this damnation by faint praise.
Perhaps. I certainly wouldn't argue.
hes cultured...intelligent...as liberal as one can get...loves good food and drinks like a fish....what more could you want
so hes a little abrasive and not always the nicest person in the world...welcome to the northeast...if you dont like it i suggest moving to utah or pleasantville
and when did crack and heroin become recreational drugs...i want in on what ff is doing
Every once in a while, my dog drops a turd that isn't nearly as zesty as the usual turds. Easy to see, deposited in one place, easy to scoop up, doesn't smell too bad, etc.
Bourdain is a good shtein.
p.s.
Sassy meant deprecating. Not depreciating. There is a difference. Thanks.
Quote from: ice grillin you on September 03, 2010, 05:09:36 PMhes cultured...intelligent...as liberal as one can get...loves good food and drinks like a fish....what more could you want
I know a hundred of those. Only difference this guy has is he's on teevee.
farg teevee.
i didnt say he was the only one...in fact i said the most densely populated area of the country is filled with people like that
id have an old fashioned with tony any day
I care.
I love No Reservations, I have nothing to contribute.
at least your pee doesnt burn
I'm almost finished Season One again. I banged out three episodes tonight and them knocking Wallace off was cold shtein. It seemed worse the second time around.
But I have picked up a lot that I missed the first time.
David Simon is officially a genius
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/09/27/AR2010092706331.html
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on September 26, 2010, 02:58:17 AM
I'm almost finished Season One again. I banged out three episodes tonight and them knocking Wallace off was cold shtein. It seemed worse the second time around.
But I have picked up a lot that I missed the first time.
Isn't it better watching shows on DVD? I have no problem watching three, four in a row of a great show like The Wire.
http://www.thepoke.co.uk/index.php/2010/10/07/the-wire-monopoly-game-2/
i need to buy this
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Amy K. Nelson says this is the best show ever made.
IGY's new #1?
who is she and where did she say it
i love smart women
She looks exactly like a cowoker of mine, instead she's Feva's
She Kanin the Jim rome show this week on espn. Definitely hittable.
shes like a less hot jamie lynn seigler
Where do you think she said it? Twitter.
http://moby.to/umhjfp
i dont know who that is but i want to marry her
Amy K. Nelson. And she loves chubby guys who work for the government.
Quotewatching The Wire is the key to understanding life.
from whitlock
racist
Well...Rome was right. I'm on disk three of season four. It's as real a show as I've ever seen. Thats about as high a compliment as I can give it. Real, great writing, and acting. A lot of those kids have got to be Bmore natives. I worked there years back, hung out after work, would visit on weekends, and the actors have it down pat as to what they are like and how they act. Mannerism's, language, attitude, just all of it is Bmore down pat. The school system, the police, everything. I can't for the life of me see how this show ever was canceled.
it wasnt
it ended on its own terms
and im not even gonna get at your post cause im not in the position in my life to do anything other than black power salute people who rep the wire
Get at? What is there to Get at?
like i said im not starting
the wire is above that
Whatever....by the way, any white person who wants to look like a idiotic fool can go ahead and black power salute something. It'd be like me walking around saying, "Shalom" to everyone.
pretty sure he agreed with me that the wire is a great show and you ass leakers constantly talking about it actually makes it less enjoyable.
i thought youve never seen it
and if theres anything in your life that makes the wire less enjoyable then you dont deserve one
it's a great show.
close thread.
Quote from: ice grillin you on October 21, 2010, 07:41:12 PM
Quote from: shorebird on October 21, 2010, 05:53:48 PM
Well...Rome was right.
what does this mean?
After watching season two, which I thought was a little let down after season one, I commented on it and Rome said to "get back to me after season four", which I'm now watching, and he's 100% right.
I'm hooked, and it's a bitch knowing theres only one season after this one. Theres got to be a "Bring Back the Wire" web page out there somewere. I'm signing on.
on many days season two is the goat season...lol @ letdown
The Wire's newest fan? Jon Favreau
Is the show going to pull a "Family Guy" and get resurrected because of DVD/iTunes sales?
is that a serious question
Do you write about sports for a living?
He just said he got sick of everyone telling him how good it was, so he downloaded and started watching season 1. Got hooked after 2-3 episodes.
Why is that worth posting about, exactly?
Quote from: rjs246 on October 26, 2010, 02:56:38 PM
Why is that worth posting about, exactly?
If there has to be a thread dedicated to this TV program, then I owe it to :CF to post absolutely anything I see about it. Also, it is where my interests in the show end, because I've never actually watched it.
Quote from: rjs246 on October 26, 2010, 02:56:38 PM
Why is that worth posting about, exactly?
Quote from: FastFreddie on October 26, 2010, 03:04:22 PM
Quote from: rjs246 on October 26, 2010, 02:56:38 PM
Why is that worth posting about, exactly?
If there has to be a thread dedicated to this TV program, then I owe it to :CF to post absolutely anything I see about it. Also, it is where my interests in the show end, because I've never actually watched it.
you tell em son!
Quote from: FastFreddie on October 26, 2010, 02:25:54 PM
Do you write about sports for a living?
is that a serious question?
Here is my understanding of The Wire:
It's an excellent show about cops and bad guys in Baltimore.
It's very well-acted, including multiple lesser-known minority actors.
It is no longer on the air (it has been indefinitely cancelled).
So, yes... My comment was serious. If enough DVD's sell, would HBO consider bringing it back?
hbo has no say in it...it only comes back if simon wants it to and hes said that it isnt going to happen
season 5 while better than any other shows best season was a fall off big time for the wire and showed that they stopped at exactly the right time
Quote from: ice grillin you on October 26, 2010, 03:25:18 PM
season 5 while better than any other shows best season was a fall off big time for the wire and showed that they stopped at exactly the right time
Couldn't agree more. The show was a masterpiece, it has tremendous replay value, there's zero reason to mess with it or extend it.
Quote from: FastFreddie on October 26, 2010, 03:22:35 PM
Here is my understanding of The Wire:
It's an excellent show about cops and bad guys in Baltimore.
It's very well-acted, including multiple lesser-known minority actors.
It is no longer on the air (it has been indefinitely cancelled).
So, yes... My comment was serious. If enough DVD's sell, would HBO consider bringing it back?
it wasnt canceled weirdo, it ended on its own terms.
no its never coming back
the dvd sales arent even strong enough to remotely consider it.
Make a movie!
"@sportsguy33: Whoa. RT @amazondeals Deal of the Day: $74.99 - The Wire: The Complete Series http://amzn.to/GoldboxDeals"
QuoteYour life is complete, u r an intelligent, evolved human being. I can't help u. RT @tstock7: what about those of us who already own the Wire
whitlock speaks the truth yet again
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f9VspqcwtJQ
yes or no on clay davis making meta jokes about the wire
didnt land for me
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FD0Wwd8l6-w
Quote from: ice grillin you on January 20, 2011, 09:39:45 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FD0Wwd8l6-w
Damn, he's bitter. They could have filmed the Wire in a bunch of different urban settings and produced the same show. He's real glass half empty with his rant because the Wire is a story of cops and crime so of course you're going to get the negative aspect of the city. And lol at his Miami/NY/LA crime show comparisons, those shows suck ass and despite what he says they're not all peaches and cream.
basically hes saying the wire would have been awesome if it wasnt so realistic
or maybe the rawls bar scene hit a little too close to home
simons response:
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"Publicly, let me state that The Wire owes no apologies—at least not for its depiction of those portions of Baltimore where we set our story, for its address of economic and political priorities and urban poverty, for its discussion of the drug war and the damage done from that misguided prohibition, or for its attention to the cover-your-ass institutional dynamic that leads, say, big-city police commissioners to perceive a fictional narrative, rather than actual, complex urban problems as a cause for righteous concern. As citizens using a fictional narrative as a means of arguing different priorities or policies, those who created and worked on The Wire have dissented.
Commissioner Bealefeld may not be comfortable with public dissent, or even a public critique of his agency. He may even believe that the recent decline in crime entitles him to denigrate as "stupid" or "slander" all prior dissent, as if the previous two decades of mismanagement in the Baltimore department had not happened and should not have been addressed by any act of storytelling, given that Baltimore is no longer among the most violent American cities, but merely a very violent one.
Others might reasonably argue, however that it is not sixty hours of The Wire that will require decades for our city to overcome, as the commissioner claims. A more lingering problem might be two decades of bad performance by a police agency more obsessed with statistics than substance, with appeasing political leadership rather than seriously addressing the roots of city violence, with shifting blame rather than taking responsibility. That is the police department we depicted in The Wire, give or take our depiction of some conscientious officers and supervisors. And that is an accurate depiction of the Baltimore department for much of the last twenty years, from the late 1980s, when cocaine hit and the drug corners blossomed, until recently, when Mr. O'Malley became governor and the pressure to clear those corners without regard to legality and to make crime disappear on paper finally gave way to some normalcy and, perhaps, some police work. Commissioner Bealefeld, who was present for much of that history, knows it as well as anyone associated with The Wire."
destilupfrontate
lol
Simon embellishes the narrative but who cares, at the end of the day it's a fictional story loosely based off real people. My friend is a cop in South West Philly, he said the Wire is on point with a lot of its portrayals and opinions.
i can't watch that video, says it's private
Quote from: SD on January 20, 2011, 10:23:30 AM
South West Philly,
talk about a shteinhole
bmore has nothing on that place
Simon's response was excellent. The fact that someone points at a tv show and affixes blame to it is fairly awesome though. Perfect example of just how farged up this society is right now.
The one thing I'll say that the police commish makes a valid point about is that the "glamor" cities like NY, LA and Miami are always put up on a pedastool in tv and in movies. The cops are all model quality, drive fancy cars, live in the best parts of town, etc, etc. Even the criminals aren't very scumbaggy and they always confess.....which is basically saying that even their criminals have some sort of integrity or something.
Still, it is just television and no one should take any of it seriously. But if you tell a lie enough times it becomes truth and I think that's kind what he's getting at.
there are plenty of unfavorable depictions of ny and la, its just they got lost in fluffy sunny happy times of entourage, sex and the city, etc.
all bodymores got is the wire and that horrendous shes just not that into you movie
its not that those cities are treated any differently it just that the shows that are based in those cities are horrible "safe" television programs...the wire is the only tv show ever made that depicted ANY city in a honest and realistic light...it just happened to be baltimore since the creator is from there
rawls was michelle williams father in blue valentine
oh and check this greatness...
1:57 - 2:12
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zJqFUWbITug
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Quote from: MDS on January 13, 2011, 02:52:45 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f9VspqcwtJQ
yes or no on clay davis making meta jokes about the wire
didnt land for me
Quote from: ice grillin you on January 26, 2011, 11:51:53 PM
rawls was michelle williams father in blue valentine
oh and check this greatness...
1:57 - 2:12
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zJqFUWbITug
play ga rism
http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/maryland/baltimore-city/bs-md-ci-drug-raids-20110310,0,5092225.story
Quote
More than 30 people, including the actress known as "Snoop" from the Baltimore-based HBO series "The Wire," were arrested Thursday morning across the city and its surrounding counties in connection with a large-scale heroin and marijuana operation.
also i was watching goodfellas this weekend and clay davis is in it
I mentioned that about Clay Davis a few pages back. It's pretty funny seeing him as a Doctor.
classic perp walk
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well, her hair look good
the lady coming out the door in the first pic could pass for an older version of Kima
me thinks shes elbow deep in some pusssay right now
Pearson held without bail.
unbelievable
Is that sarcasm?
this was probably mentioned already but carcetti is playing the main character in the new hbo series game of thrones
I'll be so happy when police and feds put an end to all drug rings and operations across the country in a few years. They're doing a great job.
I hear they've done wonderful things in New Orleans and Los Angeles, I can't wait till they clean up Baltimore.
This place will be a farging paradise without all the black people.
Paradise indeed. How awesome is it going to be when all illegal drugs (marijuana will be legal) are off the streets for good? I'm getting excited.
It's going to be great. We won't have to lock our cars or houses anymore. Our children can go outside for the first time in their lives. We'll be able to ask for directions without fear of getting raped.
Can not wait.
so im trying to figure out a way to see the book of mormon on broadway when i come to philly in june or may or whatever.
and it turns out brother is in this show.
i want to stop the show and demand he reenact his alley scene with omar
http://weblogs.baltimoresun.com/news/crime/blog/2011/04/snoop_freed_from_city_jail.html
she got busted on a wire, lol
Sonja Sohn (Kima Greggs) was at CVP tonight. I have too much pride and respect to say anything to celebrities, so that's it. I let her be.
FWIW, she's as pretty in person as she is on screen, perhaps even moreso.
that scene in season 3 oh my god little fishies hello
Dude I work with said he saw Snoop in Philly. Turns out they're fliming a movie here called "Must be the music"
http://www.philly.com/philly/news/20110421_Film_shoot_shuts_N__Philly_street.html
wow how bad is this gonna be...
The cast includes The Roots frontman Tariq Trotter, known as Black Thought, Felicia Pearson, also known as "Snoop," who had a major role on "The Wire," Lisa-Wu, from "The Real Housewives of Atlanta" and R&B singer Pleasure P, production manager Nicci Freeman said Thursday night.
Quote from: SD on April 27, 2011, 10:14:59 AM
Dude I work with said he saw Snoop in Philly. Turns out they're fliming a movie here called "Must be the music"
http://www.philly.com/philly/news/20110421_Film_shoot_shuts_N__Philly_street.html
she got released because of the film...she was able to show the court that she's got legitimate work, so they let her go..it was in the news here a couple weeks ago
http://hoodedutilitarian.com/2011/03/when-its-not-your-turn-the-quintessentially-victorian-vision-of-ogdens-the-wire/
Quote
The genius of The Wire lies in its sheer size and scope, its slow layering of complexity which could not have been achieved in any other way but the serial format. Dickens is often praised for his portrayal not merely of a set of characters and their lives, but of the setting as a character: the city itself an antagonist. Yet in The Wire, Bodymore is a far more intricate and compelling character than London in Dickens' hands; The Wire portrays society to such a degree of realism and intricacy that A Tale of Two Cities—or any other story—can hardly compare.
Well, it is a Tale of Two Cities. One of them would have been shortchanged if he'd put all his effort into the other.
okay for farg sake, let's not get carried away. The Wire is great television, but no television compares to great literature like A Tale of Two Cities.
i have never read it but i gotta believe tale of two cities is pretty much unreadable where as the wire couldnt be more watchable
advantage: wire
nor will you ever read it. or most any great books.
yay ignorance
I guess IGY's got far, far better things to do than you've ever done.
Thanks to HBO GO I've started watching The Wire. Thanks to you fargers, I feel dirty for watching it.
Embrace it.
I will say to you what IGY said to me when I first started - I would give anything to go back and be able to watch it again for the first time.
so jealous
cherish these moments
Get your heads examined.
Stop ripping off the Oresident you filthy hippie.
So far it seems an awful lot like a pretty good HBO TV series. I've yet to experience the ridiculous religious experience as described on here. But, hey, I like good TV shows.
Quote from: Zanshin on May 09, 2011, 11:27:14 AM
So far it seems an awful lot like a pretty good HBO TV series. I've yet to experience the ridiculous religious experience as described on here. But, hey, I like good TV shows.
I don't think you understand the dynamic at play here, Z.
The Wire is the greatest thing ever created and anything short of frenzied hyperbolic praise for it is not to be tolerated.
pretty much
in fact if you watch an dont think its that good it should be a punishable crime
It very well may be the greatest show in the history of television, which places it slightly above Miley Cyrus' tattoos on the list of things that grown men should care about.
but is it more important than novels or coen brothers movies?
Do I spend pages upon pages fawning over a novel or a movie? More importantly do I spend years and years talking about the same goddamned book/movie/whatever? This thread is farging 97 pages long. Get a grip.
by this time next year it should be 197 pages long
the wire is life, son.
Exactly. Kill yourself.
Quote from: MDS on May 09, 2011, 11:52:40 AM
pretty much
in fact if you watch an dont think its that good it should be a punishable crime
i dont know about that but at the very least youd be unamerican
altho i would be my house that zanshin could have an outerbody experience watching it and still wouldnt admit it...and in fact i could see him wtching it only to say how not awesome it is
Not true. If it's awesome, I'll say it's awesome...but I probably won't dwell on it, because that's not my way. I'm on the third one, and so far it's good.
I'm not going for the counter opinion, but all of the slathering of love does make it harder to watch. Still, enough people have said it's good to make me want to see what the fuss is about.
If I have an out-of-body experience while watching it, I promise to admit it.
If I could delete one thread...
Quote from: Zanshin on May 09, 2011, 01:05:40 PM
Not true. If it's awesome, I'll say it's awesome...but I probably won't dwell on it, because that's not my way. I'm on the third one, and so far it's good.
third episode?
btw youll have to watch it a minimum of three times to take it all in.....theres so much you miss the first several times thru
Once is enough to see that it's superior to all other television. But after that, studying and proselytizing the damn thing is for fanboys.
But you already know this.
This is a level of pretentiousness that I aspire to.
Quote from: Diomedes on May 09, 2011, 08:53:24 PM
Once is enough to see that it's superior to all other television. But after that, studying and proselytizing the damn thing is for fanboys.
it may be but you cant properly digest the show with a single viewing...its just not possible
Quote from: ice grillin you on May 09, 2011, 08:47:58 PM
Quote from: Zanshin on May 09, 2011, 01:05:40 PM
Not true. If it's awesome, I'll say it's awesome...but I probably won't dwell on it, because that's not my way. I'm on the third one, and so far it's good.
third episode?
btw youll have to watch it a minimum of three times to take it all in.....theres so much you miss the first several times thru
Pfft. I'm watching a TV show, not writing a dissertation on it.
I properly digested that shtein as I saw it the first time. Then I passed it and moved on to the next meal.
Who wants to re-hash the same crap over and over again?
Oh...wait, I'm being a hypocrite. I like to re-read books like Moby Dick or anything Graham Green wrote. nevermind.
i actually feel bad for you then and am not jealous anymore
all viewers should give the wire the attention is deserves or dont watch it at all
this isnt nypd blue
no, it's what NYPD Blue should have been
and nothing more
Just because it'll make igy's eyes bleed:
http://nymag.com/daily/entertainment/2011/05/lion_king_the_wire.html
jesus i realize everyone worships the show but make it stop
i saw that earlier this morning and it was the single worst thing associated with the show since the stringer bell thor picture
Quote from: MDS on May 10, 2011, 08:25:02 PM
I saw that earlier this morning and it was the single worst thing associated with the show since the show's fans.
Australian weirdos should not even be in this thread let alone be allowed to talk about the wire.
most of them wish so bad that idris elba was an aussie
I don't know who that is, and I don't care.
Quote from: Eagles_Legendz on May 10, 2011, 07:02:30 PM
Just because it'll make igy's eyes bleed:
http://nymag.com/daily/entertainment/2011/05/lion_king_the_wire.html
What the farg is that? Who in the farg decided that would be good? Who sits down and says "ya know, I think I will make a Lion King/Wire video". I mean how do those two even become associated in ones mind?
I watched six seconds of it.
Anyone can make a zesty video. It takes a special person to feel like the quality of that was high enough to put on a website.
Okay. Wrapped up season one and started season two. It's a good show and I'm going to keep watching it. To this point, I haven't seen the transcendence that warrants 100 pages about it on a football message board...but it's certainly entertaining.
This is a football mb? As in, American Football?
No wonder most of the people here are born idiots.
worked down at our crackamore office today
traffic was a nightmare trying to get out from downtown so i was like wtf lets rock n roll thru mecca...so i cut up 83 to north ave and went thru ground zero thru pennsy fulton monroe ect
definitely got hard
did you make a pit stop at Hamsterdam
are slim, rick and the rest of them still running the connect?
up. you worked up here.
north is up. south is down.
this is simple stuff
down means downtown
the liquor store is south of my cribbo but i dont say im going down the liquor store...i say im gonna go up to it
down is like florida and up is like maine...but when we are talking about a couple mile trips those directives lose all meaning
got it?
wrong.
north is up. south is down. if you want to conflate the two, don't bother using them at all. instead of saying 'I'm going up to the package store' which is in fact south/down from you, why not just say, I'm going to the package store
the answer in your case is, because you are teevee dumb
Wouldn't this all be relative to the direction you are facing at the beginning of your journey? If you are facing south at the starting point, then heading south would actually be going up, right?
What if you are in South America? It's all backwards there, isn't it? Or if you are on the South Pole, any direction you walk in is technically on a downward slope, no?
Let's spend at least 10 pages talking about this.
North is up. South is down. Nothing relative about it.
if I'm going East or West, would I use up or down?
hipster
Quote from: Sgt PSN on May 21, 2011, 03:48:37 PM
Wouldn't this all be relative to the direction you are facing at the beginning of your journey? If you are facing south at the starting point, then heading south would actually be going up, right?
What if you are in South America? It's all backwards there, isn't it? Or if you are on the South Pole, any direction you walk in is technically on a downward slope, no?
Let's spend at least 10 pages talking about this.
next time you are goin out to grab a new pair of birkenstocks tell you wife which direction you are headin and then plug your ears so you dont have to hear her hyena laugh
"be back soon baby. I'm heading northwest to purchase a lovely new pair of burks"
Quote from: SD on May 21, 2011, 04:09:18 PM
if I'm going East or West, would I use up or down?
If it's directly east or west, you're going "over to"
If it's north-east/west or south-east/west, you use "down" or "up" accordingly.
Also this entire conversation reminds me of City Slickers 2
An abortion that never should have happened, and can be blamed on a Jew?
lol
QuoteGlen: All right, now the sun sets in the East, right?
Mitch: No! The sun sets in the West.
Glen: That's if your *in* the East, but we are way out West now, so we are past where the sun sets.
Mitch: You can't be *passed* where the sun sets, and if you think you can, then I am directly South of an idiot!
Phil: Which is down!
Mitch: Right!
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on May 21, 2011, 09:17:54 PM
"be back soon baby. I'm heading northwest to purchase a lovely new pair of burks"
lol
characters saying the opening quotes:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QqNNpGlUKHw
i posted that a while back but definitely worthy of another....so goosebumpy
for some reason a bunch of wire castmembers are going to be at the whitehouse next week
an obama/wire pic would be...wet undies doesnt even begin to describe it
Quote from: MDS on May 28, 2011, 05:12:56 PM
for some reason a bunch of wire castmembers are going to be at the whitehouse next week
an obama/wire pic would be...wet undies doesnt even begin to describe it
has Foxnews gotten ahold of this yet?
black people in the white house, oh my god!
the people who had my Wire set on loan returned it today...with the first season of Treme as a thank you gift
I guess I'll give it a try now that I have it
you'll probably like it since you're the jazzy hipster type
treme is great but next to the wire it looks like seinfeld
to be different 100% shot dio says its better
if treme played in bodymore dio would be all over it.....fact that its NO means he will hate
no matter what he does hell be doing so while wearing birkenstocks and eating something from whole foods
And toasted. Nicely toasted.
Quote from: MDS on May 28, 2011, 09:33:18 PM
no matter what he does hell be doing so while wearing birkenstocks and eating something from whole foods
oh no doubt...and probably be having more kids
Quote from: MDS on May 28, 2011, 09:33:18 PM
no matter what he does hell be doing so while wearing birkenstocks and eating something from whole foods
The 'whole foods' part made me chuckle.
def. having more kids asap
QuoteAttorney General Eric Holder has something to say to the creators of HBO's Baltimore crime drama "The Wire": Bring it back.
Holder gushed about the show, which went off the air after its fifth season in 2008, as he spoke alongside several of the show's cast members Tuesday at the Justice Department. "Having looked at those clips again, I'm reminded how great that series was," he said. "I want to speak directly to Mr. Burns and Mr. Simon, do another season of 'The Wire.' ... I want another season, or a movie," he implored, hoping his instructions would make their way back to creators Ed Burns and David Simon. "I have a lot of power," he chuckled.
Holder and other government officials are touting the show because of how accurately it depicts the plight of kids who are exposed to the use, manufacture or trafficking of drugs in their homes. Last year, DOJ established an intra-agency task force to help these children, who often become victims of violence.
National Drug Control Policy czar Gil Kerlikowske (after asking the actors to sign his boxed sets of the series, naturally) explained that episodes of the show are used to educate people, including lawmakers, on these sensitive issues.
While actor Jim True-Frost, who played the cop-turned-schoolteacher character Roland "Prez" Pryzbylewski, showed some of the relevant clips, including one in which he discovers that one of his student's parents sold the child's clothes for drugs.
"The kid has been taught not to feel. It's not just living in the environment, he can't express or share or trust enough to seek help," True-Frost explained. "It's amazing writing and it's beautifully shot, but as everybody in here knows, it's the real deal."
True-Frost was joined by fellow cast members Wendell Pierce and Sonja Sohn. For Sohn, who now leads a Baltimore-based program for underserved youth called ReWired for Change, the show's themes hit very close to home. Not only is she active in the issue now, she has lived through it. "I was afraid to reach out because I was scared my babies would be taken away from me," she said. "I was a drug-using mother."
is there any show in recorded history that has gotten more and more popular and prevalent after its gone off the air than the wire? the love doesnt stop and its been off the air for 3 years.
of course there isnt because its the best show ever made
also of course roger ailes or sean hannity would say its more along the lines of twilight and nothing more than a fairytale
btw has a pub ever gave the wire props?....thats not being facetious i just wanna know if its ever happened
Quote from: ice grillin you on June 01, 2011, 01:44:51 AM
btw has a pub ever gave the wire props watched the wire?....thats not being facetious i just wanna know if its ever happened
Wendell Pierce, Sonja Sohn and Jim True-Frost (aka Bunk, Kima and Prez) participated in a Justice Department panel Tuesday on drug abuse, families and at-risk children. It is part of an initiative launched by Attorney General Eric Holder and announced Tuesday in the release that follows.
Holder, who identified himself as a big fan of the series, jokingly ordered David Simon and Ed Burns, executive producers of the show, to do another season or at least make a movie, according to Reuters "Front Row Washington" blog.
"Having looked at those clips again, I'm reminded how great that series was. I want to speak directly to Mr. Burns and Mr. Simon, I want another season, or a movie. I have a lot of power...," Holder said, according to the Reuters account.
Quote from: MDS on June 01, 2011, 01:35:16 AM
QuoteAttorney General Eric Holder has something to say to the creators of HBO's Baltimore crime drama "The Wire": Bring it back.
Holder gushed about the show, which went off the air after its fifth season in 2008, as he spoke alongside several of the show's cast members Tuesday at the Justice Department. "Having looked at those clips again, I'm reminded how great that series was," he said. "I want to speak directly to Mr. Burns and Mr. Simon, do another season of 'The Wire.' ... I want another season, or a movie," he implored, hoping his instructions would make their way back to creators Ed Burns and David Simon. "I have a lot of power," he chuckled.
Holder and other government officials are touting the show because of how accurately it depicts the plight of kids who are exposed to the use, manufacture or trafficking of drugs in their homes. Last year, DOJ established an intra-agency task force to help these children, who often become victims of violence.
National Drug Control Policy czar Gil Kerlikowske (after asking the actors to sign his boxed sets of the series, naturally) explained that episodes of the show are used to educate people, including lawmakers, on these sensitive issues.
While actor Jim True-Frost, who played the cop-turned-schoolteacher character Roland "Prez" Pryzbylewski, showed some of the relevant clips, including one in which he discovers that one of his student's parents sold the child's clothes for drugs.
"The kid has been taught not to feel. It's not just living in the environment, he can't express or share or trust enough to seek help," True-Frost explained. "It's amazing writing and it's beautifully shot, but as everybody in here knows, it's the real deal."
True-Frost was joined by fellow cast members Wendell Pierce and Sonja Sohn. For Sohn, who now leads a Baltimore-based program for underserved youth called ReWired for Change, the show's themes hit very close to home. Not only is she active in the issue now, she has lived through it. "I was afraid to reach out because I was scared my babies would be taken away from me," she said. "I was a drug-using mother."
is there any show in recorded history that has gotten more and more popular and prevalent after its gone off the air than the wire? the love doesnt stop and its been off the air for 3 years.
Yes, Family Guy.
Technically, true. Difference is that Family Guy was cancelled because of terrible ratings and didn't develop a strong fan base until CN picked it up and aired reruns on Adult Swim. Next thing you know, DVD sales skyrocket and Fox brings the show back.
The Wire had a devoted fan base from the get go.
oh my god shut the farg up about family guy. do not ruin this thread with bullshtein unfunny cartoons.
QuoteResponding publicly to Holder's request later in the week, Simon said restarting "The Wire" for a sixth season would come with conditions.
"The Attorney General's kind remarks are noted and appreciated," wrote Simon in an email to The Times of London. "I've spoken to Ed Burns and we are prepared to go to work on season six of 'The Wire' if the Department of Justice is equally ready to reconsider and address its continuing prosecution of our misguided, destructive and dehumanising drug prohibition."
America's War on Drugs, Simon continued, is "nothing more or less than a war on our underclass, succeeding only in transforming our democracy into the jailingest nation on the planet. This is 'The Wire's' argument. So if we are being urged by the nation's leading law enforcement officer to write more of the same, it seems appropriate to make some mention of the fact."
seriously he is just off the charts
simon would easily be the best president in the last 50 years were he to run and get elected
tim colishaw ftw with the clay davis wire reference on around the horn
Quote from: lurking wierdo on June 02, 2011, 01:35:25 PM
Quote from: MDS on June 01, 2011, 01:35:16 AM
QuoteAttorney General Eric Holder has something to say to the creators of HBO's Baltimore crime drama "The Wire": Bring it back.
Holder gushed about the show, which went off the air after its fifth season in 2008, as he spoke alongside several of the show's cast members Tuesday at the Justice Department. "Having looked at those clips again, I'm reminded how great that series was," he said. "I want to speak directly to Mr. Burns and Mr. Simon, do another season of 'The Wire.' ... I want another season, or a movie," he implored, hoping his instructions would make their way back to creators Ed Burns and David Simon. "I have a lot of power," he chuckled.
Holder and other government officials are touting the show because of how accurately it depicts the plight of kids who are exposed to the use, manufacture or trafficking of drugs in their homes. Last year, DOJ established an intra-agency task force to help these children, who often become victims of violence.
National Drug Control Policy czar Gil Kerlikowske (after asking the actors to sign his boxed sets of the series, naturally) explained that episodes of the show are used to educate people, including lawmakers, on these sensitive issues.
While actor Jim True-Frost, who played the cop-turned-schoolteacher character Roland "Prez" Pryzbylewski, showed some of the relevant clips, including one in which he discovers that one of his student's parents sold the child's clothes for drugs.
"The kid has been taught not to feel. It's not just living in the environment, he can't express or share or trust enough to seek help," True-Frost explained. "It's amazing writing and it's beautifully shot, but as everybody in here knows, it's the real deal."
True-Frost was joined by fellow cast members Wendell Pierce and Sonja Sohn. For Sohn, who now leads a Baltimore-based program for underserved youth called ReWired for Change, the show's themes hit very close to home. Not only is she active in the issue now, she has lived through it. "I was afraid to reach out because I was scared my babies would be taken away from me," she said. "I was a drug-using mother."
is there any show in recorded history that has gotten more and more popular and prevalent after its gone off the air than the wire? the love doesnt stop and its been off the air for 3 years.
Yes, Family Guy.
Arrested Development.
Obviously not the same category as the wire, but its popularity has skyrocketed since the show was canceled.
way funnier than the Wire
lol
(http://www.paulsizer.com/images/wire_animated_series_sizer.jpg)
More to be found here (http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=9919&page=2).
haha... holy shtein. now that i would watch.
http://www.slashfilm.com/david-simon-agrees-sixth-season-the-wire-agrees-war-drugs/
if the u.s. ended the so-called war on drugs, Simon would have nothing to write about
n/m
just saw johnny weeks in "serendipity"
thanks to HBO Go and my dual monitor setup, i blased through season 1,2, and 3 the past two weeks. i'm on 4 now. it's insane how good this show is.
Quote from: SunMo on June 19, 2011, 08:24:16 PM
it's insane how good this show is.
guess you havent heard that its overrated
those are people who either
a) hate black people
or
b) need to be contrarian
im doing my summer re watch and am on 1 now
its honestly better than 8th time than any show is the 1st time
I just finished up episode 7 of season 3. Just trying to fill in time before Breaking Bad starts in July.
Stringer's fall in season 3 is spotlighted, but Avon's fall is just as impressive.
ive watched the entire arc on dvd more times than i can count but lately my thing is to youtube particular scenes
its amazing how may great ones there are...most shows youd be like "remember that scene where _____________________ (fill in the blank)" and that would be it...it literally would be one off the charts scene for the entire run of the series...ok maybe not one maybe a few...but with the wire theres like 10 or more "wow" scenes per season
this round its dawned on me more than ever how big of a fleshpop rawls is
and holy farg is john doman cash money
bunk and omar in season 3 when bunk has to restrain himself from going after omar is farging great
Quote from: SunMo on June 19, 2011, 09:20:33 PM
bunk and omar in season 3 when bunk has to restrain himself from going after omar is farging great
yeah probably the single best scene of the show...
'ole bruiser be blind behind that fortified'....lol...and it hits you in the chest when omar hocks up a lunger at the end
if thats not the best then this is...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7d0leuz-WrA&feature=related
or this...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YrSy9r0-lMg
or this...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lvTTt_VvffQ&feature=related
or this...
or this...
or this....
Bunny Colvin is money in season 3. One of my favorite scenes is when all the Majors are in the elevator after getting their ass chewed by Rawls and Burrell. They're all cracking jokes about what they're going to do to fix the problems in their districts, Bunny says "I'm going to legalize drugs" and everyone laughs as the elevator door closes (can't find this scene).
Some other noteworthy Bunny Colvin scenes:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AxEKRI5oxOk
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GV9MamysCfQ
And this scene with Stringer and the 40 degree days is hilarious and money:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ttbQTz8tAE
Quote from: ice grillin you on June 19, 2011, 08:29:39 PM
Quote from: SunMo on June 19, 2011, 08:24:16 PM
it's insane how good this show is.
guess you havent heard that its overrated
In case that was directed my way, I think it's a great show. I'm on season 4, and I'm really enjoying it. The writing and acting are outstanding, and it's probably one of my favorite shows of all time. I also do not think that it's overrated, in general.
I do, however, think it's overrated by some on this board...which speaks much more to the hyperbole here than it does the show itself. There's a difference. I'm on board that it's a great show, though.
its much bigger than this board...crtitically its as beloved as any show ever...ive never read a single thing about it that wasnt over the top positive...thats why you have critics compring it to the best 19th century literature like dickens
Hey, it's a good TV show. I don't get all worked up about Dickens, either. Steinbeck or even Dos Passos would probably be a better comparison.
Dickens makes Simon look like Mother Goose.
dickens was a fag and simon would eat his lunch
I rest my case.
is there anything better than some old school dickens books after a fresh herbal meal at some out of the way counter-culture restaurant?
god damn hipster.
Knowing you're out in 110 degree heat catching a donkey show on your way to cover a JV field hockey game.
we dont cover jv events and its never hit 110
but good try, personwhorunsasportsmessageboardwhobarelyevenlikessports
Hemingway was the man.
Season 3 ending montage when Avon is in court and Marlo and Chris walk in. Great segue scene.
that's one of the great skills of the show. carcetti is gradually introduced, just like marlo. they don't just start a season and it's a total gear change.
well except maybe season 2. so many whites.
Polishing off the series. Seasons 1-4 were great. Season 5 was pretty weak; the circles in which the characters moved got a little too incestuous, and the whole cooked-up serial killer angle seemed to really go against the reality feel that made the show stand out from the pack.
The serial killer stuff took McNultey pretty much out of the picture far as I was concerned. I watched the paths taken by the 4 youngsters, especially Michael who eventually kills cold blooded and brutal enforcer Snoops. It was amazing the man he became when he was more or less just trying to do the right thing and take care of his little brother. I liked the war between Marlo and Omar, and was shocked when Omar was taken out by a kid. I also liked seeing Simons take on how the economy effects journalism, more so newspapers, and the world of the homeless in Baltimore.
Quote from: SunMo on June 23, 2011, 05:36:39 PM
that's one of the great skills of the show. carcetti is gradually introduced, just like marlo. they don't just start a season and it's a total gear change.
well except maybe season 2. so many whites.
Couldn't agree more. One of the things I didn't like about the Sopranos was how they'd suddenly throw a prominent character into the story. Like when they started season 4 off with adding Buscemi into the mix. The whole thing just felt too forced.
Here's a great scene from season 3, when Bodie introduces himself to Marlo. The awkwardness Bodie shows when he approaches Marlo and Marlo's reaction are incredible:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=beGNXVt1WpY
I'm watching season 5, it's the episode when lester goes with McNulty to the homeless community under the bridge to talk to some of the guys. mcnulty goes to some guys around a fire and asks a guy if his dog bites. I'm pretty damn sure that the guy he is talking to was one of the dockworkers in season 2. i think they were trying to show how far some of those guys fell because of the union being busted.
Reach.
so im doing my normal summer re-watch and i cried last night at the ziggy/frank jailhouse scene.
ive seen that scene like 20 times and this is the first time i teared up at it.
this show is of a very high quality, just to let anyone know.
Nancy.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZmUQj8kCZso
begins at 749. as perfectly executed, written and acted as a scene can be.
also keep in mind ts the 3rd time these two characters had an extended conversation in the entire show. and they work together and just happen to be father and son. i mean...god damnit i farging love the wire.
Brownsville is turning you into soft serve
i am harder than hard and the wire is the truth
if that show dont get to you then quit life
http://www.nola.com/tv/index.ssf/2011/07/dominic_west_of_the_wire_goes.html
(http://media.nola.com/tv_impact/photo/9840512-large.jpg)
lol
Kapadia:
QuoteI picture Ruben Amaro Jr. and Howie Roseman smoking cigars on a rooftop in Center City tonight like Avon and Stringer.
Hey Howie, what time is that meet with the building inspectors tomorrow?
well they blew up the chicken man in philly last night...
http://nymag.com/daily/entertainment/2011/07/the_wire_star_michael_k_willia.html
question of the day:
who did miss anna vote for in the primary? my thinking is gray.
Sopranos, Season 3, finale = Omar
minka is now dating renaldo
well i guess since omar is dead....i mean i guess he changed teams.
(http://extratv.warnerbros.com/images/news/0829/rodriguez-kelly.jpg)
i read that omar's going to be a science teacher on that show community this year.
(http://img2.timeinc.net/people/i/2011/cbb/blog/110912/jim-true-frost-440.jpg)
is that christine brennan
her name is cora
and you know its a slow news day when my tv blog is linking mr. prezbo's baby news
One thing I missed on my first watch that I just noticed while watching on DirecTV ch101...
Freamon's chick at the end when Landsman is eulogizing McNulty is the stripper.
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on September 04, 2011, 09:36:34 PM
One thing I missed on my first watch that I just noticed while watching on DirecTV ch101...
Freamon's chick at the end when Landsman is eulogizing McNulty is the stripper.
I picked that up first viewing
You shall be rewarded with a burrito.
I'd rather have my balls scratched
how did you not notice that?
she had a scene with kima in s2 and lester referenced her numerous times after s1
come on J
Yeah man I don't know how I missed it.
I'm sure there are a few other things too.
Time to do a re-watch.
hey phreak, the gay black guy with scar on his face in season 3 is the same one as season 1
lol farg you
Bodie is adorable in the FedEx boardroom/recycling ad.
poot was on capitol hill yesterday lobbying for the legalization of weed
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/09/23/the-wire-actors-where-are-they-now_n_978234.html
The Wire Actors: Where are they now?
The Wire Monopoly
http://www.buzzfeed.com/jpmoore/the-wire-monopoly-board
(http://s3-ec.buzzfed.com/static/imagebuzz/terminal01/2011/11/30/13/the-wire-monopoly-23465-1322679014-4.jpg)
holy crap if that was real id have an extra something under the tree this year
check out the pittsburgh header
(http://desmond.yfrog.com/Himg741/scaled.php?tn=0&server=741&filename=m25aef.jpg&xsize=640&ysize=640)
also imagine if easy had access to the ap wire
Saw Clarke Peters (Lester Freaman) having brunch outside at Donna's on 31st and St. Paul today.
Was that Wallace in the preview for the movie Chronicle?
Where's Wallace, String?! Where's Wallace!?
That's the most memorable scene of the series, I think.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l1dnqKGuezo&feature=player_embedded
mean to post this past weekend....article from the sunday waspo magazine
http://www.washingtonpost.com/lifestyle/magazine/after-the-wire-ended-actress-sonja-sohn-couldnt-leave-baltimores-troubled-streets-behind/2012/01/05/gIQAevmKVQ_story.html
Obama calls Omar best Wire character of all time
http://gawker.com/5889672/barack-obama-says-omar-was-the-best-wire-character-of-all-time
of all time...lol
that phrase makes some sense when you're saying, who is your favorite basketball player of all time, or your favorite book of all time...
but your favorite wire character of all time? idiotic
and for the record, my favorite is Bodie and my favorite minor character is Donut
my favorite minor character is Namond's mom
lol, she's fantastic
agreed on Bodie. By season 4 he was my favorite character on the show.
yeah bodie is the goat.....rawls 2 string 3 omar 4
its hard to call him the overall best because it was just one season but frankie sobotka probably was the best single performance in the shows history...jesus chris bauer was a monster that season
are we talking characters or performances?
omar is probably the best CHARACTER, wendell pierce or john doman gave the best PERFORMANCE
http://www.grantland.com/story/_/id/7646862/smacketology-#8212-tournament-determine-wire-greatest-character
frank got a zesty seed
we did that a couple years ago and it was awesome...this one could be the worst thing ever
boris getting a higer seed than bubbs is a complete joke
and serge is in the field but not slim charles
and lololololol @ carver not in the field
whitenerdsdoingdumbthings
The whole idea that Spiros and the Greek aren't in but Serge gets a spot is mindnumbing.
serge should be in over the greek...but yeah vondas has to be in
hah...I forgot Omar was in Trapped in the Closet
close thread??
Quote
Echoing that handful of commenters who balk at every Wire-related story on the Internet, David Simon has let it be known: He's pretty sick of all the public displays of affection for The Wire, and he finds the whole endless discussion and dissection of the show—particularly among those who only got into it after the series was already over—"wearying," to quote David Simon's most frequent complaint. In a typically contentious New York Times interview, the guy who would probably appreciate it if we didn't refer to him as "Wire creator" waxed crotchety over his exhaustion with all the too-late love for the show, which could have used that sort of attention when it was still on the air. Because, like the scrappy punk band that only sold a handful of records in its heyday, but now everyone is so into it, you just weren't there, man:
I do have a certain amused contempt for the number of people who walk sideways into the thing and act like they were there all along. It's selling more DVDs now than when it was on the air. But I'm indifferent to who thinks Omar is really cool now, or that this is the best scene or this is the best season. It was conceived of as a whole, and we did it as a whole. For people to be picking it apart now like it's a deck of cards or like they were there the whole time or they understood it the whole time—it's wearying. Because no one was there in the beginning, or the middle, or even at the end. Our numbers continued to decline from Season 2 on.
So yeah, thanks for nothing! Please show your character brackets to someone who gives a damn. Anyway, while Simon's "amused contempt" can definitely be read as some understandable bitterness about the way The Wire struggled, only to be appreciated long after it was dead like so many brilliant, starving artists, the complaints don't stop there. Above all, Simon is pretty sure you know nothing of his work, even—or rather, especially—if you were there as it was happening, and that goes double for the critics:
The number of people blogging television online — it's ridiculous. They don't know what we're building. And by the way, that's true for the people who say we're great. They don't know. It doesn't matter whether they love it or they hate it. It doesn't mean anything until there's a beginning, middle and an end. If you want television to be a serious storytelling medium, you're up against a lot of human dynamic that is arrayed against you. Not the least of which are people who arrived to The Wire late, planted their feet, and want to explain to everybody why it's so cool. Glad to hear it. But you weren't paying attention. You got led there at the end and generally speaking, you're asserting for the wrong things.
So in a way, like a battle against systemic corruption that we don't actually understand at all, you can't win with Simon: Even if you're there from episode to episode, discussing the storylines in the moment and eagerly anticipating their directions, you're just getting in the way of the big picture's completion. And if you came to the story after that beginning, middle, and end were finally in place, to assess it properly as a complete story, now you're "picking it apart like it's a deck of cards." And in either case, no matter what your final understanding of the story, well, chances are you weren't actually paying attention and, generally speaking, you are wrong and should shut it. About the only thing Simon will agree on? That Omar is "really cool"—"
what a little bitch. just farging enjoy the fact that people are appreciating your work and start working on something else that doesn't involve stupid nola music. entertain me, clown.
hes such an angry ornery old dick and i absolutely love him for it....hes on my short list of heroes
and treme is the best show on tv right now....altho i think luck would have surpassed it had it lasted
I admire Simon a great deal. This latest outburst only adds to it.
That shtein was hilarious although it sounds strangely familiar for some reason (ahem).
also he's 100% right. stop talking about it douchebags.
Quote from: phattymatty on April 06, 2012, 09:52:31 AM
stop talking about it douchebags.
NEVER...at least not until im a cadaverous motherfarger
wire = life
What a grumpy farg.
I got in on it late but so what. Like Sun said he should hush up and enjoy the fact that people dig it
hes a mad genius
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on April 06, 2012, 11:02:38 AM
What a grumpy farg.
I got in on it late but so what. Like Sun said he should hush up and enjoy the fact that people dig it
It's a tv show. A great one, yeah, but it's just a farging cable tv series. That's his point.
Simon is a one hit wonder
I wonder what Simon thinks of people like me who didn't see the show when it first came out and didn't buy into the hype and jump on the bandwagon once it started rolling? I imagine he thinks I'm awesome and I can't say I blame him one bit.
Quote from: Sgt PSN on April 06, 2012, 11:53:17 AM
I wonder what Simon thinks of people like me who didn't see the show when it first came out and didn't buy into the hype and jump on the bandwagon once it started rolling? I imagine he thinks I'm awesome and I can't say I blame him one bit.
i suspect hed like to box people like you over how great the wire is
david simon and happiness do not get along
Quote from: SD on April 06, 2012, 11:42:34 AM
Simon is a one hit wonder
"Homicide" wasn't exactly a bomb. And it was a great show.
so is treme
hes had his bombs tho
treme sucks
Only watched an episode or two of Homicide, didn't think it measured up to the Wire. I mean, nothing really does but I wouldn't even rank it ahead of Generation Kill which I thought was half decent. I don't expect
anything else he does to measure up to the Wire but at least have success with another project.
Quote from: SunMo on April 06, 2012, 03:33:43 PM
treme sucks
yup
Quote from: SD on April 06, 2012, 05:11:21 PM
Only watched an episode or two of Homicide, didn't think it measured up to the Wire. I mean, nothing really does but I wouldn't even rank it ahead of Generation Kill which I thought was half decent. I don't expect anything else he does to measure up to the Wire but at least have success with another project.
Quote from: SunMo on April 06, 2012, 03:33:43 PM
treme sucks
yup
well duh......if jesus himself came down to earth and made a television show specifically for america it wouldnt compare to the wire
as for treme its not going to appeal to super hero fans...but trust me its good tv...certainly better than walking dead or the batman chronicles
this kind of thing seems to work around here so:
Although I've never seen the show, I have read enough about it, and talked to enough people who have seen it, to know that Treme does not suck.
Therefore, I don't ever have to watch it myself, and anyone who disagrees with me is by definition an ignoramus.
Quote from: ice grillin you on April 06, 2012, 08:21:11 PM
well duh......if jesus himself came down to earth and made a television show specifically for america it wouldnt compare to the wire
But it would prove that Jeezus was in fact, king of the Jews.
So my brother is graduating from G'Town in two weekends and apparently Simon is the commencement speaker? I'll save you a seat igy.
do i have to dress up?
(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_jkaYQXuRfoo/TDP40rZKNYI/AAAAAAAAAMo/pVzFsw7IXMU/s1600/omartie.jpg)
incredible maxim piece for the 10th anniversary of the start of the wire
http://www.maxim.com/tv/maxim-interrogates-the-makers-and-stars-of-the-wire
this made me laugh:
QuoteDominic West: When are they making the movie? That's what I wanna know. We were desperately trying to get one together, but David said it would have to be a prequel—which is all right for the black guys. But whitey? You know whitey will need a bit of surgery to look younger than he did 10 years ago.
i like this one....
QuoteUnlike most TV series, The Wire filmed on the streets it depicted, and many of the New York–, L.A.-, and London-based cast and crew were quickly given a taste of life in Baltimore.
Andre Royo: They called me and told me I got the part of Bubbles, and my wife got excited. "Oh, shtein! You got the part!" Packing her bag for L.A., and I'm like, "Nah, nah, we filming in Baltimore." And she unpacked real quickly: "I'll see you when you come home."
ooh ooh my turn
QuoteMichael B. Jordan (Wallace, Barksdale gang dealer): This is some real shtein. It was real to the point where crackheads would come up and try to cop. I had fake money, and they would come over, and an exchange would go down. I would think they were part of the crew, and I'd make the exchange. Then security would come around and be like, "No! No! No!" and break it up. I was like, "Oh, shtein! That's really a crack-head! I'm sorry! I'm not really a drug dealer!"
shes sounds so disappointed...
QuoteFelicia "Snoop" Pearson (Snoop, Stanfield gang enforcer): I never imagined myself on-screen, shooting a gun, even though they're blanks.
i came when i read it
Quote from: ice grillin you on June 01, 2012, 10:53:42 AM
incredible maxim piece for the 10th anniversary of the start of the wire
http://www.maxim.com/tv/maxim-interrogates-the-makers-and-stars-of-the-wire
Beautiful.
amazing getting everyone to talk...but it should have been longer.
in fact someone should do a flat out wire doc. ken burns style.
Agreed.
Or pester Simon to do the movie.
if they do a movie i will move to houston and sell my soul to some republican oil baron
everything i know will be dead so i might as well go out in style
a movie would be an awful idea and i would be shocked if it ever happened as thats so not david simon
Pretty much and what would be the point unless they were doing some sort of prequel and that wouldn't work because the actors are older and they already did a bunch of short films regarding a young Omar/Prop Joe/when/how Mcnulty and Bunk met etc.
a movie goes against everything that the show is and stands for
what the farg is a prequel going to be about. what the farg else can they say. the show was the goat and its over. the 5 seasons stand on their own.
i think they might be worried abut game of thrones going down as the goat and they wanna come back with a movie to show who is king
they didnt take the bait after season 2 of jericho, im pretty sure they wont now
You guys should totally start up some The Wire conventions for people to attend.
i would even consider holding one in australia so you can attend
Quote from: MDS on June 02, 2012, 01:47:49 PM
a movie goes against everything that the show is and stands for
what the farg is a prequel going to be about. what the farg else can they say. the show was the goat and its over. the 5 seasons stand on their own.
I have the perfect plot: they could do a movie about a Jew who thinks he's black that enters the game only to realize he's white and sticks out like a sore thumb. It'll be like season 2 with Ziggy only funnier. The movie ends with the Jew in a vacant giving bjs for heroin.
MDS "How's my hair look, Havas?"
if you can get jason biggs as the jew im IN
Quote from: MDS on June 02, 2012, 04:32:12 PM
if you can get jason biggs as the jew im IN
I had Seth Green in mind
hes ginger, loud and obnoxious and a total fake jew
biggs isnt even really jewish and is more jew than green
Kevin James will play your mentor
how about a wire fantasy camp?
Quote from: ice grillin you on June 02, 2012, 10:48:19 AM
a movie would be an awful idea and i would be shocked if it ever happened as thats so not david simon
I'd never want to see a movie. Don't fix it if it ain broke
thats so raven
also you're all iceholes.
Quote from: phattymatty on June 02, 2012, 10:01:22 PM
thats so raven
the raven ------> edgar allen poe -----> ravens are baltimore ------> baltimore is the wire -------> the wire is life
matty gets it
Yeah, that's probably it.
do they like the wire in new zealand?
thats so wrong
arent pigmies and aussies like jews and palastenians??
kangaroos, kiwis, lord of the rings, koala bears, whatever
hes from one of the islands that they used to throw retards and rapists on
shutter island?
im pretty sure the english put all their unwanted creatures in a boat and shipped them to australia
it explains a lot
thats why in mad max the accents were fading in and out btwn bloke and mate all movie
you have to give them credit, though
they think soccer is terrible, too. they got that aussie rules football shtein
do they really hate soccer tho?
well no, no one really does, not even america, but its not at the top of their list
GF knows better but they love ARF and rugby and contact sports. not Hoyda sports with eurotrash
america does hate soccer....what im asking is does aussie as well?....i really have no idea
And that's stopping you from having a strong opinion about it? Someone call a journalist, this is news! I mean a real journalist!
i know a little about everything....the aussie populations relationship with soccer is not one of those things.....sorry buddy
Quote from: ice grillin you on June 02, 2012, 11:32:21 PM
america does hate soccer....what im asking is does aussie as well?....i really have no idea
america likes america, which means america will watch soccer during the world cup
in fact americans would watch anything so long as there is a little usa in the scorebox
One of my biggest regrets in life is not moving to Australia for a year or two after I got out of the navy. It's an incredible place...the people are friendly...and the women love american men. The people there are cool too...not all middle Americany and generic.
http://www.buzzfeed.com/daves4/marlo-and-omar-from-the-wire-hanging-out-with-an
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facial hair is not serving marlo well
holy shtein that picture is awesome
btw bourdain being one of the biggest wire fans ever does this mean hes gonna do a NR this season honoring the show?
good stuff
http://www.funnyordie.com/videos/414fa4b226/the-wire-the-musical-with-michael-kenneth-williams
that shtein was damn funny
kima still look fine
I always wondered what Valchek says at the end of Season 2 in the finale when he gets the last picture of the surveillance van. looking it up online he says "rest in peace" which goes with my theory that deep down he feels guilty for practically killing frank.
just finished up season 2 on my 3rd re-watch, still my favorite season.
thats a running theme thruout the show....people that on the surface do or should hate someone else really deep down respect them...in the end its the game they hate not the person...in the case of valchek v. frank it was the church game
valchek didnt care give a rats ass about the union much less want frank dead he just wanted his stained glass window
yeah i got how the window spawned the entire investigation, but it took a few viewings to get the depth of the conflict
Two pollacks having a pissing match
What is the song in s1 ep10 when Savino is in the car with Kima and Orlando?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DFvp92v8M3Y
Clay Davis is the doctor treating Henry's crippled brother in Goodfellas.
over under on the number of times that being mentioned in this thread - 5
It's 112pgs...count it up.
I've got the under!
Quote from: ice grillin you on June 16, 2012, 09:15:10 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DFvp92v8M3Y
Thanks...I dig it
http://www.motherjones.com/mojo/2012/06/fbi-crime-stats-fudged-the-wire-nypd
the farging scene where mcnulty tries to act racist so he can bond with the county sheriff farging cracks me up everytime
"I don't care if they're speaking mandarin Chinese with a corksuckers lisp"
lolol
Rewatch has hit season two now
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on June 24, 2012, 12:30:23 AM
"I don't care if they're speaking mandarin Chinese with a corksuckers lisp"
ha...that is an unbelievably sneaky line
In the episode when Stringer gets got Brother Mouzone and Omar are standing outside the building waiting to go in...
Omar: "we gonna have to go through the front"
Mouzone: "boy that's a change for you isn't it?"
lolol
you looooooooooooooooooooooooove gay sex jokes
sure, if you say so
Rawls was the guy in Die Hard III playing the Aqueduct supervisor
was he gay in that too?
lol...no, but I think MDS dreams about spooning with him.
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on July 07, 2012, 11:54:27 PM
lol...no, but I think MDS dreams about spooning with him.
Im not the one who has posted 2 quotes....both of them gay in nature
But then again I just watched the s3 finale and got a chub when they showed the elect frank sobotka posters ever so briefly during the ending montage
season 4 when bubbles turns himself in for the hot shot and he throws up on landsman. landsman goes to the bathroom and sees "Rawls loves cock" on the bathroom wall and just smiles.
i don't care how many times IGY justifies it, the way they got rid of Omar was horrible.
Quote from: SunMo on July 16, 2012, 12:03:40 PM
i don't care how many times IGY justifies it, the way they got rid of Omar was horrible.
Definite low point of the show. Season 5 in general was just ok
the reason it works is because we all hate it...that little pos killing him is infuriating....but its better than having some cheesy showdown on a dark street btwn omar and marlo...its why the wire is so much better than everything else
i get that having a final showdown would be against everything the wire is.
but to have some random kid come in and pop him just is bullshtein. have it him get popped by some dude who gets lucky during one of his robberies, or don't finish his story at all and we can all assume that he's still robbing dealers.
half of baltimore was after him...that is the most likely way it was going to happen...especially in the state of mind he had deteriorated to
It's like he wants to watch a tv show and not the wire
Quote from: ice grillin you on July 16, 2012, 12:39:52 PM
the reason it works is because we all hate it...that little pos killing him is infuriating....but its better than having some cheesy showdown on a dark street btwn omar and marlo...its why the wire is so much better than everything else
I didn't hate it, thought it was quite fitting, that was pretty much the only way anyone was gonna' get him, the unexpected.
Quote from: SunMo on July 16, 2012, 12:51:59 PM
i get that having a final showdown would be against everything the wire is.
but to have some random kid come in and pop him just is bullshtein. have it him get popped by some dude who gets lucky during one of his robberies, or don't finish his story at all and we can all assume that he's still robbing dealers.
Always thought a cool final scene would have been Omar walking down an alley whistling farmer in the del
Quote from: SD on July 16, 2012, 06:56:34 PM
Quote from: SunMo on July 16, 2012, 12:51:59 PM
i get that having a final showdown would be against everything the wire is.
but to have some random kid come in and pop him just is bullshtein. have it him get popped by some dude who gets lucky during one of his robberies, or don't finish his story at all and we can all assume that he's still robbing dealers.
Always thought a cool final scene would have been Omar walking down an alley whistling farmer in the del
that would have been amazingly cheesy and not something simon would have ever done
Is that Omar's voice in the new McDonalds breakfast radio commercials? Sounds just like him.
Omar's Dead
Since there was no whistling, I'm going to go ahead and assume it was Michael K. Williams, then.
The Wire.....WITH LEGOS!! (http://screen.yahoo.com/the-lego-wire-29977908.html)
Since I haven't watched The Wire, I don't know if this is funny or not. But for those of you who have, which is pretty much everyone except me, I'm going to decide on whether or not to finally watch it based on your reactions to the video. If it's funny, then I'll watch The Wire so that I can revisit this video and finally get it.
I too have never watched. Only one clip of a guy saying, "Shiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiit"
turned it off after 30 seconds. stupid and awful.
Just started watching on HBO GO and am thru only 4 episodes. Maybe it took a little while to get going because while it's been ok, this last episode was the 1st one where I was like "ok... I GOTTA see the next one!".
thats how it was for me too...almost stopped watching after the first few but they take a little while to introduce the characters. once you hit that 4-5 episode mark it's on.
I'm not evangelical about it, but it's a different kind of show and the pace takes some adjustment. But it's worthwhile TV, for sure.
i actually like it less because of this thread.
Oh, certainly. I avoided it for years because of this thread.
Pretty sure we all did
i would give a decade off my life to be feva right now
Haha...you'd be dead by now with as much as you've said that to all newcomers.
Quote from: ice grillin you on July 20, 2012, 08:19:55 PM
i would give a decade off my life to be feva right now
I get that a lot...
admit it, its better than lost
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RZvY285GNN0
lol...im farged in the ass with a pineapple on this
I'm at work now... in the control room getting ready for the 11p SC... and I can't stop singing, "wayyyy doooowwwwwnnnn in the hole!"
Dammit... it's got me.
3 episodes into the 2nd season.
the glory hole sucks us all in
what do you do exactly feva....general board duties for shows
He writes Stuart Scott's script.
stuart scott and tracy mcgrady could help a blind person see
Think Feva told me he was a Producer at a tailgate.
Quote from: ice grillin you on July 29, 2012, 10:22:10 PM
the glory hole sucks us all in
what do you do exactly feva....general board duties for shows
I'm an Associate Director. Basically, the #2 in the production of any ESPN studio show. I do a number of shows... but my main show is NFL Live.
can you slide wendi nix my digits?
oh and how awful is it living in connecticut...i know you told me before you really liked the atl...but you couldnt pass up an espn offer...but you and wifey were a little concerned with the every day life up there...is it as bad as yous imagined?
CT is aiiight. I like it enough, i guess... Wifey loves it (shocked the hell outta me) and the boys are in a good magnet school they really like. The job is why I'm here tho so as long as that's good, it's all good. Biggest thing for me is now I have better access to the Eagles, but overall, ATL blows CT outta the water and we haven't ruled out going back in a few years w/ESPN at the top of the resume.
thats what i figured....that youd be back down south at some point...
and i remember the misses throwin you for a loop and liking it up there
me and sunny....or maybe im the only dope that would do it....poured one out for you and the "low" last week when we were up at niagara falls
Yeah, I saw his pics up on FB. You guys were not even 10 minutes from the house I grew up in and not even 30 seconds from where I used to get up in a few ladies in the Falls parking lots.
That was his honeymoon spot, I think.
So 10 years after people started jerking off to this show, I started watching it. Season 1, ep 1-4 so far. Gotta say, the first 3 episodes were good but I didn't see what all the hype was about. But episode 4 started making a solid case. It's still not there yet, but now I'm intrigued.
I won't post ad nauseum about the show like some people (all of you) but it's looking pretty good so far. The scene with McNulty & Moreland re-investigating the apartment where that girl was killed by Avon's nephew was hilarious. Who knew you could script out a 3 or 4 minute scene where the word farg (or some variation) was the only word spoken between 2 characters?
That's the scene where I gave up and turned it off.
That vignette is based on an actual case in which Simon observed a couple murder police dissecting a scene without saying much more to each other than "farg." He dolled it up for the screen of course, but the point is, he didn't dream it up.
yeah simon first told that story in the homocide book
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I'm home sick today so I'm going to burn through season 2. The boat in the beginning having the upper class party is called 'The Capitol Gains'. Probably something that wasn't as significant to me when I first watched this 4-5 years ago.
"I go into the stall this morning and guess who's in the stall next to me puking his guts out"
"Bunk Moreland"
"How did you know?"
"Useless farg can't hold his liquor"
Season 1 is in the books. Yeah, I can see what all the buzz was about. The first few episodes were ok as things were unfolding. Then the next several episodes got better as you started to see the bigger picture. Then the last 3 or 4 episodes kind of blew my mind.
Farg you guys. I actually hate that I'm liking it so much.
Also, Omar is gay? Pretty big risk by Simon putting that in there.
Yes, Omar prefers KFC over Chic Fil A
See what I did there? I stereotyped him for being black AND gay.
Omar prefer Hip Hop Chicken n Fish
Quote from: Sgt PSN on August 02, 2012, 08:14:39 PMAlso, Omar is gay? Pretty big risk by Simon putting that in there.
no
he just likes having sex with dudes
is this seriously a question. i mean seriously. what the farg.
Omar is the shtein. You can't help but sit up and say "aww, shtein!" eveytime he pops up in a scene. Not to give anything away for Sarge, but his courtroom testimony was some of the funniest shtein I've seen in years.
Got 1 episdoe left in season 2. Waiting for the wife to get her ass home so we can finish it off and into season 3.
Quote from: MDS on August 03, 2012, 01:26:03 AM
Quote from: Sgt PSN on August 02, 2012, 08:14:39 PMAlso, Omar is gay? Pretty big risk by Simon putting that in there.
no
he just likes having sex with dudes
is this seriously a question. i mean seriously. what the farg.
It was a rhetorical question numb nuts. Obviously he's gay, but I had no clue prior to watching. Was pretty surprising given his popularity among fans of the show.
you didnt need to see the show to know that....not knowing omar is gay is like not knowing archie bunker is racist
and i would guess well over 90% of wire watchers are at worst liberal leaning hence the acceptance of omeezy
Here's a debate
If everyone who went to chic fil a on Wednesday was forced to watch s1 of the wire, would it work?
Or would they turn around and call omar a flag
one of the great pick em bets of all time would be to wager on what came out of their mouth first
stillupfront or flagget
Quote from: ice grillin you on August 03, 2012, 01:32:13 PM
you didnt need to see the show to know that....not knowing omar is gay is like not knowing archie bunker is racist
Yeah, other than knowing that Omar is an immensely popular character, I didn't know a damn thing about the show before I started watching. I don't think I opened this thread very much other than to occasionally clear it off the unread posts list.
bubbles is a crackhead
did you pick up that
lol
Ziggy >>>>> MDS
ill go with that
i have a bigger cock
http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/maryland/crime/blog/bal-mccullough-portrayed-in-the-corner-dies-of-apparent-overdose-20120803,0,624618.story
simon obits dre mcullough and does it very well....
http://davidsimon.com/deandre-mccullough-1977-2012/
the comments section is really interesting...simon and an ex baltimore police get into it quite a bit
Quote from: MDS on August 04, 2012, 01:02:13 AM
bubbles is a crackhead
did you pick up that
Actually, Bubbs was addicted to smack
the treme trailer last night on hbo right before true blood looked so dope
that vampire show
i know what it is but what on gods green earth are you doing watching it
my companion watches it...outside of reality tv and that kind of stuff which i dont count...its really one of the worst shows ive ever seen...
i happened to be in bed last night putting in some fantasy football draft prep and the trailer caught my eye...cant wait
you really are an old white man. bed at 9pm on a sunday. awful.
also FANTASY FOOTBALL PREP IN BED what
study time baby
and my bad for having to get up at 430 for work....we all cant work part time at a local gazette
ill see your part time gazette and raise you health benefits and a take home computer
stillupfront's mom stillupfront's mom what
listen to this fanboys
http://everydaybeats.net/mixtapes/may_12_djianhead.mp3
So....I think I started watching this show about a week ago and I just wrapped up season 5. Yeah.....all 5 seasons in 1 week. Needless to say, I didn't get much done as far as packing up my house goes. Or sleep. Or general hygiene. This is going to take a while.......
I'm really glad that I managed to avoid reading this thread over the last few years. In fact, I pretty much avoided anything and everything about the show altogether (online, tv, etc) other than knowing that Omar was pretty much the world's favorite character. And I'm glad that I didn't know shtein about this show when I started watching because I had no idea what to expect from scene to scene or episode to episode other than my own guesses. But yeah, when it's all said and done, the hype was justified. I'm glad I didn't get in on it while it was still airing though. Remember when you were a kid going into a convenience store with some friends and you all have a few $$ in your pocket and you buy as much candy as you could....then you're outside the store and you gobble up your favorite candy first. Then while you're munching on lesser candies one of your boys also bought a pack of your favorite candy and while he's eating that, you wish that you saved your favorite candy for later because you know your friend isn't enjoying it as much as you would. Right now, I feel like I saved that candy for later.
Hated seeing Wallace get got. D'Angelo going off on Stringer about Wallace was amazing. Valchek launching an investigation on Sobatka because he didn't get the best church window was annoying as hell, but I guess cops have investigated people for less. Ziggy could have been killed 50 times over and it wouldn't have been enough. I assume he's a prison bitch. D'Angelo getting murderdeathkilled sucked a fat one. I knew it was coming but I still hated it. Stringer and Avon were a perfect match. Stringer was brains, Avon was like the braun and both of their strengths ended up being their downfall. Stringer thought he was too smart for the game and Avon thought he was too tough. The scene with the 2 of them on the balcony before Stringer got smoked might be the most powerful scene from the entire series. Only thing I didn't get is that Stringer knew Avon was coming after him (or at least suspected something was up) when Avon asked him what time he was meeting the contractor. Stringer was smart as hell so why did he give Avon the actual time instead of telling him a different time so he could be ready? And even though the writing was on the wall for Stringer to get killed, it still kind of sucked when it finally happened.
The Hamsterdam experiment was pretty cool and I think it highlighted the lack of progressive thought in our govt's approach to drugs. Streets were clean, users and dealers were out of the neighborhoods, people were happy and violent crimes were dramatically reduced. But 30 years ago Nancy Reagan said drugs are bad and the gov't waged a war on them so once the mayor got wind of it, shtein hit the fan. The only unrealistic part of that imo was the fact that a lot more heads would role if something like that actually happened today.
It was kind of funny for a minute seeing McNulty clean up his act and use department binders for school supplies for his girl's kids, but his brief appearances in season 4 was a bitter pill to swallow. And they definitely shifted the focus from the crime that takes place on the streets to the crime that takes place in gov't and the sad state of inner-city schools. But I thought the best thing about season 4 was how it re-introduced Spiros and made season 2 a lot more relevant to the overall story. Because as I was watching season 3, I was constantly wondering what the dock workers/The Greek story had to do with anything.
I thought season 5 felt a little rushed. Why did they only do 10 episodes? And I also thought that the fake serial killer story kind of got away from the show's formula. I didn't like Bodie's character at first...mostly because I was pissed that he killed Wallace, but I grew to really like him over the course of the show and hated seeing him killed. And I knew Omar was getting popped inside that store but I was farging pissed when they showed that the little kid did it. I get the irony of it, but that still pissed me off. But it's shtein like that that really made the show great. Never really understood why Kima ratted out McNulty and Lester though either. But the montage scene at the end with McNulty was farging outstanding and put the finishing touches on it as well as you could hope for. Basically just showed that all of the work they did in the previous 4 seasons didn't really change a thing. Bubbles got clean, Dookie took his place. Omar got popped, Mike turned into a ripper. Politicians covered their asses and moved up the gov't ladder, Marlo stayed clean for about 3 minutes and went right back to the streets. Basically just shows the never ending cycle that is destroying American cities. At least Lester gets to spend the rest of his days making doll house furniture and banging a stripper half his age.
Only thing I would have liked to see was some closure on Avon and Cutty. I'm guessing Avon just serves his time and Cutty keeps mowing lawns and running his gym.
I don't buy dvd's anymore but I will be picking up the box set for this. This definitely has a high re-watch factor to it.
best show eva
One other thing.....out of all the characters on that show, I don't think anyone did a better acting job than Andre Royos who played Bubbles. The biggest knock on the show is that the acting wasn't always top notch and sometimes it seemed like the actors were just reading their lines off cue cards or something, especially when it came to smaller roles. But I thought Royos did the most convincing job out of anyone and he probably had the toughest role to play. Farging outstanding.
this could be the movie thread or the hip hop thread but i picked the wire thread because it needed to be bumped
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QuoteAs the deadly stick-up man Omar Little on The Wire and the fearsome bootlegger Chalky White on Boardwalk Empire, actor Michael K. Williams has played his share of tough SOBs. Now he's going to take on a bastich.
An Ol' Dirty one.
EW has learned exclusively that Williams, 45, will star in an upcoming film about the legendary Wu-Tang Clan rapper and all-around troubled soul Russell Jones, a.k.a. Ol' Dirty bastich, whose impressive mic skills and outrageous showmanship were eclipsed by his erratic offstage behavior, assorted arrests, and an early death.
Joaquín Baca-Asay, the cinematographer on We Own the Night, Roger Dodger and Jay-Z's video for 99 Problems, is also joining the project, making his feature directorial debut.
Filter fail
Is ODB the one who OD'd on crack, and there's video of him smoking that very night? I seem to remember seeing that video and feeling sick to my stomach, like I was watching a snuff film. Sad farging story.
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The Redemption of Michael K. Williams
http://www.nj.com/inside-jersey/index.ssf/personalities/the_redemption_of_michael_k_williams.html
Interesting and relatively surprising story on a number or levels.
Quote from: ice grillin you on August 24, 2012, 07:40:08 AM
The Redemption of Michael K. Williams
http://www.nj.com/inside-jersey/index.ssf/personalities/the_redemption_of_michael_k_williams.html
Finally had time to read this...wow. I had no idea he was binging on blow while shooting the wire
set your dvr's
david simon on maher next week
legends
lol no farging way
no shot maher ever watched the wire. hes such a farging funhole too busy smoking vaporized weed, telling awful jokes and banging strippers. and being a liberal god.
Quote from: ice grillin you on August 31, 2012, 11:59:56 PM
set your dvr's
david simon on maher next week
legends
If you could only bang one which one would it be?
I can answer that for you: Simon.
Even his igness knows that Maher is an insufferable icehole.
Quote from: Diomedes on September 01, 2012, 08:30:44 AM
I can answer that for you: Simon.
Even his igness knows that Maher is an insufferable icehole.
pretty sure I remember igy saying Maher was his god/idol.
Well I'm sure he'll appear to settle this matter directly. I can't wait.
i honestly cant choose between the two...whichever one swallows?
and lil guy simon has been on before and he obviously took heads...he was a the mid hour guest...but next week i believe hes a panelist
i know hes been on before im saying maher never watched the wire
in fact id be shocked if maher has ever watched something that didnt include maher
http://www.collegehumor.com/video/6821163/the-wire-rpg
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Die screaming.
Clever
So, that makes you want to chop them with a kitchen implement?
lord simon on mitt and the video....
QuoteMy support for Mr. Obama and my opposition to Mr. Romney was, until this moment, premised on the idea that I believe more in one man's vision of the American experiment and much less so in the other. It has exactly nothing to do with my own personal standing. My support isn't predicated on any perceived benefit to me. My opposition isn't predicated on any perceived threat. Although this may be an incredible and perverse notion for Mr. Romney to contemplate, my political positions do not follow from simple self-interest. At points, as a function of citizenship itself, I feel obliged to contemplate something larger than myself, something that might benefit others more than me, something that might require collective sacrifice of a kind associated with great nations and great societies. And if my vote results in a higher tax rate for myself and others in my income bracket, that's certainly understandable given the current level of societal need and the fact that American tax rates are at their lowest ebb in modern times. I need to pay more, and so do many other fortunate Americans who have had the benefit of an economic system and infrastructure that allowed such opportunities to amass wealth in the first place. How much more? Well, that question is premised on another: What does my country require from all of us — proportionally — to sustain itself as a first-rate society? What does it demand of all Americans, but in particular, those of us who have gained affluence in that society?
That Mitt Romney, with his too-clever-by-half 13 percent tax rate — and no, you can't see his returns, but trust him, he never slipped to single digits — feels equipped to sneer en masse at the millions of fellow citizens who support his opponent as being entitled, greedy tax derelicts, that he believes the vote of every American has to necessarily be rooted in the crudest and most basic self-interest — well, this ugly moment reveals more about the man himself than the targets of his derision. Until this moment, I thought I was going to vote for Mr. Obama because, while not satisfied by all of his positions and actions, I find his vision of the American collective to be fairer and more utilitarian. Mr. Obama seems to be asserting for an America in which sacrifice is proportional and widespread, and correspondingly, an America in which the future is inclusive of more of us. The alternative is, of course, a nation in which more wealth is concentrated in fewer Americans, and a greater mass of citizens endure higher rates of poverty — a nation that we have been constructing, systematically, since 1980.
That was my previous argument to myself and it certainly seemed enough to decide my vote.
But now, after witnessing this fresh astonishment from Mr. Romney — after reading the above statements from a man who wants to be my president while contributing less than half of my proportional share to the commonweal, who then wants to denigrate others for not pulling their weight when in many cases that weight is greater proportionally than that which he himself has shouldered — I confess I have suddenly acquired an altogether different reason for pulling the lever in November.
This man is a lout. A shameless lout, who, among the supposed privacy of close supporters, reveals that he can conceive of no idea larger or more profound than self-interest. As he believes first and foremost in Mitt Romney and his ambitions, he can't conceive that others can conjure anything larger than themselves or their possible personal gain. Here and now, he is laid bare by his own cynical critique of others who will not follow him in selfishness. It is not that Mr. Romney is merely unfit to serve us as president. Based on this latest revelation, it may go much deeper. If he believes what he told that group in private, he may well be unfit to serve us as a fellow citizen.
That was awesome. It should be required reading for everyone at the polling stations before they go into the booth.
:CF filter fail.
Quote from: ice grillin you on September 19, 2012, 08:20:23 AM
who then wants to destilupfrontate others
he is almost too smart
like beyond normal comprehension smart.
Busted the stash house in NE Philly:
http://www.myfoxphilly.com/story/19779315/agents-seize-more-than-one-mil
Got a box set on eBay for $50...still in the wrapper.
FAP FAP FAP FAP
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bEVuELyZ0lU&
set your dvr's
well that might have been one of the 5 greatest things ive ever seen
Marlo Stansfield, lol.
Also...the oxtail from Trinidad Gourmet on E. 31st (between Greenmount and Barclay) in Baltimore is legit.
how mad would bond elders be?
http://www.hollywood.com/news/Idris_Elba_James_Bond_007_Franchise_Right_Move/43049789
They got kinda mad when they switched to a blonde Bond. That would probably send them on a frothy rampage.
Quote from: General_Failure on October 26, 2012, 04:04:17 PM
They got kinda mad when they switched to a blonde Bond. That would probably send them on a frothy rampage.
Funny thing is that Craig has done a great job as bond.
A black Bond? Why the heck not. It's the 21st century.
It's bad enough we have a black president. Now we gonna have a black Bond? What's he gonna ask for instead of a vodka martini... a gin & juice?
AMIRITE?!?
Colt 45, obviously.
Quote from: Rome on October 26, 2012, 06:15:50 PM
It's bad enough we have a black president. Now we gonna have a black Bond? What's he gonna ask for instead of a vodka martini... a gin & juice?
ha
http://instagram.com/p/RTjrYHLzzV/
fap
fap
fap
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FAP
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i wanna know who did that and how long it took them.....amazing
Amazing as in the person has no life or is in prison/house arrest.
thats just outrageous
the wire is the gift that keeps on giving
I'm watching it for the 2nd time now....about half way through season 4. The rewatch factor is unbelievable. There's so many things that were said or that happened the first time through that seemed largely irrelevant and so I dismissed them as such. Like in the beginning of season 1 when McNulty says that he'd hate to end up on a boat. I don't even remember him saying that first time around. It probably seemed so pointless at the time that I didn't commit it to memory. But when when I started it up the 2nd time, I laughed. And there's a lot of little moments and events throughout the series that I've picked up on now.
Also, I didn't like season 2 very much the first time through but this time I thought it was much better.
Season 4 was also a bit slow the first time, especially since McNulty is practically an afterthought. The show was never about him, but he kind of became the dominant character and things were so focused on him during the first 3 seasons that I had a "McNulty dependency" and when they took him away, the other characters didn't seem to fill the void. This time though, all of the other characters seem a lot stronger. Maybe it's because I knew McNulty would eventually go away so I paid more attention to the other characters or something during seasons 1-3. I dunno, but season 4 is much better the 2nd time through as well.
My opinions on the characters have mostly stayed the same, except Herc. First time through the series, I just thought he was a bit of a well meaning meat head. This time though, he's really just overly ambitious, selfish and makes a lot of stupid decisions.
Quote from: Rome on October 26, 2012, 06:15:50 PM
It's bad enough we have a black president. Now we gonna have a black Bond? What's he gonna ask for instead of a vodka martini... a gin & juice?
AMIRITE?!?
Hahahahaha!
Quote from: Sgt PSN on November 17, 2012, 09:57:01 AM
Season 4 was also a bit slow the first time, especially since McNulty is practically an afterthought. The show was never about him, but he kind of became the dominant character and things were so focused on him during the first 3 seasons that I had a "McNulty dependency" and when they took him away, the other characters didn't seem to fill the void. This time though, all of the other characters seem a lot stronger. Maybe it's because I knew McNulty would eventually go away so I paid more attention to the other characters or something during seasons 1-3. I dunno, but season 4 is much better the 2nd time through as well.
mcnutty might not crack the top ten best character on the show
Quote from: ice grillin you on October 26, 2012, 03:32:19 PM
how mad would bond elders be?
http://www.hollywood.com/news/Idris_Elba_James_Bond_007_Franchise_Right_Move/43049789
For real though, I think you and Rome couldn't be more wrong. If you really know James Bond, as I do, you would think our so called 'elders' would have been more up in arms back in 1973 when Gloria Hendry (Rose Carver) and Roger Moore rolled in the Carribian countryside for Moores Bond debut in Live and Let Die.
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Rose was a rouge CIA agent, who really was employed by "Mr. Big", (Yaphet Kotto) the villain, who has been in a shteinload of movies, including one of my favorites, the original Alien. Hendry played a pretty good part until Mr. Big, or Kananga, has his men kill her for sleeping with Bond. I thought it was cool the way Mr. Big and Kananga ended up being the same person. I saw it on the big screen and I have to admit, back in '73' seeing a white man and a black woman making out on screen was a first for me, although it did nothing to stop the publics want for anything Bond. The Bond brand was really big in the 70's with the movies breaking ground in effects and stunts. The speed boat jump made the '73' Guinness Book of World Records at 110'. It was a great movie for stunts and action, but as far as Bond goes I wasn't much of a Roger Moore fan. It would have been hard for any actor to fill Sean Connery's shoes. When Live and Let Die came out, producers started making the movies nothing like the books, and Bond started losing some of his mystic for fans of the Ian Fleming books. The first movies of the sixties with Connery had it, the movies of the 70's and 80's didn't. Imo, the last few movies are just getting back to it. Daniel Craig is a great bond and the last two movies were some of the best I've seen since the beginning. As for a black Bond, as long as it's
it's not Jamie Farr. Please, not him.
Want to know what Hendry and others think see it here. The two guys doing Travolta and Jackson from Pulp Fiction are funny.*edit*and how Elba might do.
http://www.youtube.com/v/0GUuN6KJTTU&feature=player_embedded
My opinion, Idris Elba would be perfect. He was born in the UK so he should have the accent, and he defiantly has the screen presence.
Quote from: ice grillin you on November 17, 2012, 12:25:00 PM
Quote from: Sgt PSN on November 17, 2012, 09:57:01 AM
Season 4 was also a bit slow the first time, especially since McNulty is practically an afterthought. The show was never about him, but he kind of became the dominant character and things were so focused on him during the first 3 seasons that I had a "McNulty dependency" and when they took him away, the other characters didn't seem to fill the void. This time though, all of the other characters seem a lot stronger. Maybe it's because I knew McNulty would eventually go away so I paid more attention to the other characters or something during seasons 1-3. I dunno, but season 4 is much better the 2nd time through as well.
mcnutty might not crack the top ten best character on the show
Now that I've seen the entire series, yeah, I'd probably still have him around 10, but could certainly see a case for others to be in there over him. But watching the show the first time he was heavily featured. He was drunk, he was loud, he was pissing everyone off. That element was taken away in season 4 and I wasn't ready for that. Thought his character was great 1-3, didn't like him in season 4 all sober and domesticated and faking deaths and creating a serial killer in season 5 was over the top, even for McNulty.
Despite being the lead character -- the entire show does open and close with McNulty -- he's an icehole. At the very least, he's hard to like. He's one of the least sympathetic characters in the whole show.
It's interesting in a way to have the hero be such an insufferable prick to be around. The kind of guy who gets you into serious shtein over and over again and expects his smile to bail him out, nevermind what happens to you. He's a well made character, but the character is no where near my favorites.
Quote from: Diomedes on November 17, 2012, 04:36:04 PM
The kind of guy who gets you into serious shtein over and over again and expects his smile to bail him out, nevermind what happens to you.
You just described Phatty, except he's so farging lovable.
I don't think I could hang with phatty. Whenever I try to run with the wild pack, I get bit.
I don't think McNutty is hard to like at all, but isn't very likable either....if that makes sense. He has his moments where he's an insufferable prick, but in the long run he's obsessed with solving crimes. Whether or not he's doing it to stroke his ego, or to piss off his boss(es), or for the sake of simply solving a crime (a little of all 3, IMO), he's like a farging bloodhound once he picks up a scent. If it were network tv or a movie, he'd be the rebel cop who everyone around him hates and everyone watching loves. I thought it was great how Simon could take the essential elements of Hollywood's rebel cop (drunk, insubordinate, doesnt play by the rules) and make him seem a lot less heroic and more of an icehole.
My favorite character on the show was Bubbles. Not the "sexy" pick, I know, but I think that he was the most well acted character on the show and his story throughout the entire series seemed the most realistic. Struggles with addiction, struggles with sobriety, surviving on the streets, trying to regain the trust of his sister....his story was great. When Landsman walked back in the interview room to find Bubbles hanging from the ceiling after Sherrod died was one of the most powerful scenes in the series, IMO.
1 question about the show...
Who the hell was the fat chick who simply appeared in the Major Crimes Unit and then just disappeared? I think her name was Carolyn and the only notable thing she did was clip coupons and monitor the wire a few times. What was the point of her existence? Just a filler to take up space in a few scenes? One minute she doesn't exist, the next minute she's in the MCU, and then she doesn't exist anymore.
yeah mcnutty is awesome and super likeable....him being down the list of best characters recognizes how awesome the show is not how terrible mcnutty is
You didn't answer my question, dook.
support staff....nothing less nothing more
So just filler then while the MCU was a skeleton crew? No real intro to the audience and no noticeable exit from the show and no real contribution to the show. Just in and out.
Also, just starting season 5 again and realized that Lester has Dozerman doing Prez's job. Funny.
nm. Got confused for a sec and was thinking Prez was the one who shot Dozerman, but it was a black cop he shot instead.
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/12/15/us/donnie-andrews-basis-for-omar-of-the-wire-dies-at-58.html?src=rechp&_r=0
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Hahahaha....I'd like to buy 100 of those and replace every ornament on my tree with them. And an Omar tree topper.
sepinwall was on soledad obriens morning show yesterday and her and the rest of the panel were practically offering a blowjob if he would say the sopranos was the best tv show ever and he wouldnt give in......
"the sopranos was great and a game changer but the wire is the best television show ever made"
He should have relented and taken the blowjob and then during moneyshot time just say "the wireeeeeee bitch"
RIP the brilliant robert chew aka prop joe
odds on death
-1000000000000000 being enormously obese
+1000000000000000 other
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Where'd you hear that? Checked the interweb and found nothing except this - http://www.isxdead.com/person/269944/Robert%20F.%20Chew
His wiki and imdb pages don't say anything about him dying.
http://www.baltimoresun.com/entertainment/tv/z-on-tv-blog/bal-proposition-joe-the-wire-robert-chew-dead-at-52-20130118,0,2016217.story
just absolutely shocking that it was heart related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vW5K8E1Wkew
this afternoon
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http://baltimore.craigslist.org/tfr/3621721978.html
So, which cast member will you try to emulate?
Dio = Brother Mouzone
Mds = Prisbo
mds = stringer
vivian stringer.......maybe
Still too tough.
if anything i am carver except not as gay in real life ok kinda
MDS is Ziggy. Come on people.
was watching sportscenter this morning and during the uconn gtown highlites when omar calhoun tied the game with that three stan verett says "oh no...omar's comin!"
QuoteYou know the difference between me and you? I bleed red and you bleed green. I look at you these days, String, you know what I see? I see a man without a country. Not hard enough for this right here and maybe, just maybe, not smart enough for them out there." - Avon Barksdale
and people say its not the greatest show ever made
"N*gga, is you takin notes on a criminal fargin conspiracy?!"
- Stringer Bell
This is great. Can't imagine anyone else but the actors who played these characters playing another character on the Wire but here you go:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BRNm21GWEJY
"He's lucky he landed Carver cause he would have made a terrible Stringer" hahaha
It still trips me out to hear McNulty's british accent
im still not convinced that we all realize how good this show is
Vaginas
stanislaus valchek sighting in red dragon
this is great....wire fo life...
QuoteFormer all-star Oriole catcher Gus Triandos has passed away. There are better remembrances and obituaries of the ballplayer to be had, but I can't help but provide a small, additional anecdote about the man. It is a backstage story that deserves some corner of baseball posterity.
The tale begins with Richard Price, the noted novelist and screenwriter who was kind enough to grace The Wire with some of his script work for four seasons of the HBO drama. Price is famed for the verisimilitude of his urban patois and his detailed characterization, but he doesn't get enough credit, in my opinion, for his comedic chops. Looking to bring a little of that out in a particular episode, we decided to lay a secondary storyline on him in which Herc and Carver engage in that essential debate of fractured masculinity: You can screw any three women in the world if you have sex with a man of your own choosing first.
This barroom game, of course, only has one correct answer for entrenched heterosexuals: No way. Because the very moment that a participant makes any concession to his friends — "I can be on top, right?" or "Just a blowjob, okay" — he opens himself up for the usual locker-room derision.
"Can the guy be Steve McQueen?"
Sure.
"Nevada Smith-era Steve McQueen?"
Whenever you want him.
"And it's just oral. Not anal, okay?"
Just a blowjob. No worries.
"Okay, I'll give Nevada Smith-era Steve McQueen a blowjob if I can then do anything I want to Angelina Jolie, Audrey Hepburn and Jodie Foster, except Jodie Foster isn't gay. Deal?"
And the fixed coda: "Steve McQueen, huh? That's your thing? I always knew you were a corksucker."
Even in these enlightened and expansive times, when judgments about sexual lifestyle are no longer publicly acceptable, such remains the standard banter of the heterosexual male. And after assigning this very banter to Price for his episode — and doing so using the aforementioned example so that Price himself could stare at me and say, "McQueen, huh? He does it for you?" — we sat back in our happy little writers' room and waited.
When the script came in, Price had gone us one further, offering up comedy gold. Not only had he accessed the essential lust and homophobia of our characters, but he had combined it with yet another straight-male elemental: Sports trivia.
"This isn't about sex, this is about giving a guy a break," Herc tells Carver before offering up the name of Gus Triandos.
Carver: "Who?"
Price had gone deep into his 1950s era baseball-card collection, which is considerable, believe me, and picked out the slow, lumbering Baltimore Oriole catcher of the late 1950s. Triandos hit 30 home runs in 1958 to break Yogi Berra's stranglehold on the All-Star Game starting catcher spot, and he had caught no hitters in both leagues, first for knuckleballer Hoyt Wilhem in '58 and later, Jim Bunning's perfect game for the Phillies. He was well-enough known, in Baltimore at least, that the reference would knock Oriole fans on their asses with laughter, but not so well known that the humor inherent in the obscurity of Herc's choice wouldn't play. And more, Herc catching a blowjob from Gus Triandos is a funny thought. The choice itself implies a wonderful overthinking of the problem. A mainstream Oriole reference — Herc on his knees before , say, Brooks Robinson or Cal Ripken — no, god no. In Baltimore, that rolls into the territory of straight-up, get-a-rope sacrilege.
Herc explained his choice as a mercy farg. He had a card of Triandos in his collection, and the guy just had this big, sad face. Why sad? He had to catch Wilhelm's knuckleball all those years. Ball moved around like a greased pig. Triandos had to employ an oversized catcher's mitt to have any hope of getting through a game without a dozen passed balls.
After the script was circulated and the entire writing staff gathered itself from the bout of collective laughter, I was suddenly filled with a sharp pang of guilty horror: Was Triandos still alive? Why not? He'd only be in his early 70s, I calculated. Christ. I mean, I know the guy is, legally, some sort of public figure as an ex-professional ballplayer, but how do you throw this joke up on national television without his say-so? I was nauseous at the thought of big, slow Gus Triandos, now wrinkled and weathered and walking with a cane amid a copse of cherubic grandchildren. Yeah, great. Make that guy into a blowjob joke on HBO.
I told Price that while Gus Triandos was perfect, he needed to think of an alternate for Herc, and it should preferably be some celebrity or semi-celebrity who had already departed this vale. Steve McQueen, say. Because I was only going to do this for Price's script once.
"Do what?" Price asked.
"We have a number for Triandos. He lives out in California."
"You're gonna call him?"
"What choice do I have?"
"Oh shtein. Never mind. I'll think of someone else."
"No, Triandos is perfect for this, inspired even. But Richard, when you speak of me in the days to come, remember what I did for you here and speak well."
It is hard to describe how fast I was speaking when I got on the phone with Gus Triandos, trying desperately to turn the corner with the old fella, to make him see that the joke wasn't really on him, but on this character named Herc, this big, lumbering narcotics cop in Baltimore, Maryland. No, no, he wasn't saying that you had sex with him. No, no way. And he's not even saying that you would want to have sex with him. It's not about you. Really, trust me.
"I'm not sure I understand," Triandos said.
"Okay, let me send you the pages. I'm gonna send all the pages for this storyline. And if you see what the joke is and you are okay with it, then great. And if not, we won't use your name. Just look at the pages, okay?"
"This is a television show? Really?"
Christ. I sent the pages off with little hope, other than that Gus Triandos said he would get together with his sons and they would read them and he would, eventually, get back to me. Naturally, I imagined he would pick up the phone to call me and everyone with anything to do with this television show a pack of free-range iceholes.
But four days later my cellphone rang and Triandos was on the line.
"I get it. It's pretty funny."
"You get it?"
"Yeah, he feels sorry for me 'cause I had to catch Wilhelm."
"Exactly."
"Hey, I feel sorry for me. Catching Wilhelm was miserable," he laughed. "Go ahead. It's not like you're making me out to be gay or nothing. It's just a joke."
I never had a chance to speak to Mr. Triandos after that, to hear how that episode actually landed on him. But I like to imagine him enjoying the joke — and the improbable cultural reference — for years to come.
theres need to be a book where david simon tells every single solitary wire-related story....that was terrific
'night catches us' with jamie hector and wendell peirce is on
QuoteAs Attorney General Eric Holder once demonstrated, not even wielding the full power of the Department of Justice will get you more of The Wire—nor, indeed, will wielding a big-ass dick, as Wendell Pierce recently revealed. The erstwhile Bunk took to Twitter last night to discuss his frustrated attempt to launch a Wire prequel film, one he would have produced himself and that would have starred Samuel L. Jackson, so as to confirm it as a real movie. "I had Samuel Jackson playing the kingpin running the Towers, when Stringer & Barksdale started a war and took over," Pierce said of the "prequel that introduces you to the world of the series," in addition to the ongoing prequel—and sequel—that is the city of Baltimore.
Still, don't expect Wendell Pierce to follow in Zach Braff's footsteps by launching a Kickstarter (or by doing anything else Zach Braff would do, really). "We are all too old now and many actors have passed on," Pierce lamented, adding that, anyway, "We can't convince [David Simon] it's a good idea" to do anything more with the series. You'll just have to make do with those Wire prequel shorts HBO already released.
i would watch a wire prequel
i would not watch a wire prequel starring sam jackson
Jackson needs to succeed in a role as something other than angry stillupfront before I watch anything he's in again.
He made a pretty good Nick Fury.
Who?
cedric daniels doing a long ass light bulb commercial on espn
Is he preaching to the light bulb about chain of command?
There's a character I never gave two shteins about...Daniels.
daniels was HOF material in season one...and just great after that
I hated season 5 but the best Daniels scene is when he gets out of a quiet elevator ride with Mcnulty, gets out turns around and says "to be continued."
Thought the conversation at the bar between Daniels and Mcnulty when they were talking about Rhonda and Daniels says "thanks for making this easy on me" was an under rated scene.
QuoteIt's a terrible thing trying to pick just 15 great moments from the five seasons of The Wire. What about the 15 best scenes starring Lester or Cutty or Kima or Clay Davis? What about the 15 best scenes set in bars or diners or under bridges? What about 15 of Jay Landsman's best scenes involving food? What about the 15 scenes that made us wonder if our hearts were strong enough to endure this show's many heartbreaks, and then the 15 funny ones that put us back together? It could go on forever, really, where we only spent 15 minutes a day thinking of anything else but The Wire. So here's a start: 15 scenes from The Wire that we'll never forget.
http://www.ew.com/ew/gallery/0,,20183040_20421971,00.html#20421971
i could watch this shtein all night
epic
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ttbQTz8tAE
horseface is on wip
yeah, she's been on every morning with angelo for over 10 years
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I got the shotgun. You got the briefcase.
bodymore
http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/maryland/crime/blog/bs-md-ci-homicide-crisis-20130624,0,505892,full.story
guess what was voted the best tv show of all time in this weeks entertainment magagzine
http://www.ew.com/ew/gallery/0,,20712079_20711820,00.html#21351457
1. The Wire
HBO, 2002-08
The most sustained narrative in television history, The Wire used the drug trade in Baltimore, heavily researched by creator David Simon, to tell tales of race and class with unprecedented complexity. (Perhaps that's why the show never won a much-deserved Emmy for Outstanding Drama Series and earned only two nominations for writing.) Politics, the war on drugs, labor unions, public education, the media — these were among the big themes, all examined through exquisitely drawn characters, such as the brilliant yet broken detective Jimmy McNulty (Dominic West) and the great avenging thug Omar Little (Michael K. Williams), who will live on in legend.
since im a nerd i went to the museum of tv and radio. they had a costume exhibit and sure enough thats bunk, jimmy and stringers outfits.
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http://baltimore.craigslist.org/etc/3850342998.html
XXX Casting Call - The Wire Season: SEX (DC/MD/VA)
Watching this show on A&E right now called The First 48. Heard of it but never saw it before. Supposedly the show follows real detectives as they work real murders. So they're showing an episode from 2008 about a drug dealer who got killed in his drug house. Turns out that a guy named Omar robbed the drug dealer and killed him.
Life imitating art.
I love that show. Easily top five.
The Wire
First 48
Deadwood
It's Always Sunny
MASH
ha
http://wikitravel.org/en/The_Wire_Tour
QuoteRespect
This part is crucial. The hand-wringing associated with the terribly distasteful and offensive term "ghetto tourism" is a bit overwrought and contrived, but there are pitfalls to be aware of. This tour will take you through examples of some of the more impoverished and alienated urban communities in the United States, and if your purpose is to "gawk at poverty," you are here for the wrong reasons. These are real neighborhoods with a vibrant culture that the locals are proud of in spite of the obvious social problems, and as a sophisticated traveler you should accept them on their own terms. You should be here to reconnect with your favorite scenes from the TV series and to better appreciate that which is Baltimore. Note that it is highly inappropriate to photograph people without their express permission.
Stay safe
Yes, you are touring some high crime areas, be smart about it. Do not leave possessions within sight of any passers by. Car jackings happen everyday. And always make sure you have an exit route, so you are not boxed in. As noted above, walking on foot around the East and West Baltimore sections of the tour could be more risky. Yes, they are high violent crime areas, and a nighttime stroll would be ill-advised, but no one is likely to bother you beyond asking you what you're doing there, or possibly advising that it's not safe for you to visit. People here are used to minding their own business.
Well, duh.
ive done my own wire tour a few times....the neighborhoods are fine unless you are in an abandoned at 3am
some of the areas have even been gentrified.....two blocks from the hotel where omar capped bro mouzone is hipster dio heaven
Let's buy one of those Duck boats and start a "Ride The Duck: The Wire Edition" tour business. That'd be so farging gangsta.
IN
http://www.slate.com/articles/technology/technology/2013/07/what_went_wrong_at_microsoft_all_the_clues_are_in_the_wire.html
im doing by summer rewatch and came to the conclusion that frog is the worst character in the entire series
https://vine.co/v/hK1YVQZbped
So this dude I grew up with gets a lot of small bit roles in movies, tv shows and does some work with the NFL, but he mostly writes short films and plays. Just found out that he was a Western District cop in 2 episodes of The Wire.....season 4, episodes 1 and 4. In one of them he's arresting Bodie. Lucky bastich.
ziggy is in 'low winter sun'.....the new amc show that starts sunday
cant really mention the zigga zigga without arguably the most heart wrenching scene in tv history...so hard to watch even after the 1000th time
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T1xTPsWRfrQ
Bwahaha.
im in the middle of summer rewatch and ive come to the conclusion that the stringer avon fight in s3 (where he tells him he had d killed) is the best scene in the show
really?.....I always found that somewhat anti climatic...for the wire anyway
great scene but prob not in my top 20
The BEST scene is Kima getting a piece of strange. It's almost completely irrelevant to the show itself, but who gives a shtein?
NSFW
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xa3jr8_kima-greggs_redband
Quote from: ice grillin you on August 09, 2013, 05:08:41 PM
really?.....I always found that somewhat anti climatic...for the wire anyway
great scene but prob not in my top 20
idris elba is off the charts in that. plus its 1.5 seasons worth of tension boiling over with stringer feeling untouchable after he (thought he) made the "ready to run" deal with clay
other tv shows would have had a stringer avon showdown in s1 episode 10 but the wire waited and waited until it actually made sense for the characters
Quote from: MDS on August 09, 2013, 07:01:02 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on August 09, 2013, 05:08:41 PM
really?.....I always found that somewhat anti climatic...for the wire anyway
plus its 1.5 seasons worth of tension boiling
that's kinda what I mean....the scene didn't quite live up to the build up
i disagree...though it gives me a good idea to do a 64 team bracket to determine the best wire scene ever
fargin do it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mA9RiG22fAE
thats awesome
wire=life
too good
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C42QYOvRif0
Flipping through the channels didn't realize Avon plays the dude in Remeber the Titans. Funny that he's supposed to be in HS in that movie and it came out just 2 years before The Wire.
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=3OLUGEr1KwI
I was channel surfing a few days ago and ended up on BBC. Don't even remember what I was watching, but during a commercial they were pimping a mini-series called "Luther", starring Idris Elba, that was coming on after the show I was watching. It was the 4th episode of the 4 part mini-series, so I have no clue what happened before hand but it wasn't terrible (considering that British tv is usually really bad), but damn if it wasn't weird as hell listening to him talk with his natural British accent.
isnt luther in like its third or fourth season?
i heard it was good but i cant watch string when hes a bloke
i blew through the first season and it's really good.
i haven't gone any further at this point though
Yeah, I didn't realize that it was a continuing mini-series. Thought it was just the 4 episodes, but looking at their website I saw that they've done several seasons ranging between like 4-6 episodes each.
Sunny, where did you watch season 1? Netflix Streaming, Netflix Disc, BBC website?? I liked the last episode I just watched but would def be interested in checking it out from the beginning.
i think i downloaded the torrent but i'm fairly certain that it's on netflix
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such a classic line
WeeBay in a Capital One commercial as a cop?
Namond is in college now and that shtein's expensive. A stillupfront's mom's gotta do what a stillupfront's mom's gotta do.
Thanks to the benefits of unemployment and the HBO Go app on Apple TV, I managed to get through the whole series in the last two weeks. Some really good stuff, and some so-so material. The premise for the last season was a little strange, but the characters managed to stand up nicely through some of the weaker story lines.
Haha....that's how I watched it. Except I was still employed at the time....I just decided to stay home and watch The Wire instead. 5 seasons in like 2 weeks. I didn't sleep much.
the bunk cant swim....i aint too good at floatin neither
Omar is Irish on Battlefield 4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lwIQWpXNXG0&feature=youtube_gdata
one of my boys just notified me that snl did a wire bit tonight
anyone see it?
i saw on twitter it was some kind of white people like the wire joke
i dont know if it was a bit or just a line
they way he told me was that it was more than a line but not a skit...then again hes an idiot and i dont trust him
snl is one of the 3 or 4 worst shows ever so it simply wasnt funny
i watched it after he told me about the line and really words cant describe how unfunny it was
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Old Bay Chips ftw
plus they are herr's.....strong philly love connection btwn that and the jb jerz
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uJl7ODu7elA
Guy at the bar tonight had a shirt on that said "Omar Comin"
Nice. I'd love to see a photo of Michael K. Williams wearing one of those.
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I didn't know String was a MILF.
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Think it's about time for a re-watch
is he still putting money in his canteen, though?
i saw the book of mormon today (it was amazing and all of you Romes should see it on broadway)....anyway BROTHER MOUZZONE WAS IN IT
at his curtain call i shouted BROTHER! but i dont think he heard me
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the wire on wheelies
this looks HOTT.....dio you IN?
http://www.youtube.com/v/gOMQY6k16TU
Wicked tired of this trailer. It's been making the rounds for like two years now.
The phenomenon is a point of Baltimore pride. It's like f'n Mad Max when, out of nowhere, 40 bikes and ATVs appear in the heart of the city, half of them riding impossibly long, tall wheelies...through stop signs and lights, etc. Cops aren't allowed to give chase. It's quite a scene.
A couple years ago they pulled a guy out of his car and beat him badly after he was in an accident with one of them (who wasn't injured, iirc). Dude was hospitalized. So, needless to say if one of these dudes winds up under the wheels of my truck because he ran a red light and I didn't see him coming...I'll keep going thanks, straight to a police station and my lawyer can handle the rest.
That said, the last time I saw them it was a small crew, I was walking my son in a stroller, and they stopped at the intersection I was about to cross, just like normal people do, and let me cross.
I wish them well and hope no one gets hurt.
Also, this should go without saying but: almost all, if not all, of the bikes are stolen. The only thing the cops can really do is try to find where they are stored, which they do by following stillupfront's moms with helicopters and then sending tow trucks and cruisers to wherever they think the bikes are being hidden.
In conclusion,Baltimore is a great American city.
Haha
Swizz beats
fun fact of the week: the greek and deangelo are both in that awful sarah muchelle geller movie "irresistible" which came out before the wire
hilarious sepinwall tweet:
This is your periodic reminder that "Heroes" s1 was named Program of the Year by the Television Critics of America over "The Wire" s4. Not one of our finer moments.
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That is great
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Where's Wallace, String?!
Right here, bitch.
The Wire meets Dungeons and Dragons and igy eats it up.
don't know what that means sorry buddy....but I do love the wire and that chart is great
those are D&D "alignments," which are used to describe or define the moral/ethical bent of your character.
It means you're a nerd, you farging nerd.
And the worst kind. The closeted nerd.
By analogy, you're the fag on the football team who joins in beating down the kid from the school play for being a gee aaay why.
Quote from: Diomedes on March 04, 2014, 06:11:19 PM
And the worst kind. The closeted nerd.
By analogy, you're the fag on the football team who joins in beating down the kid from the school play for being a gee aaay why.
holy shtein dio be slingin' em.
Quote from: Diomedes on March 04, 2014, 06:02:34 PM
those are D&D "alignments," which are used to describe or define the moral/ethical bent of your character.
thats interesting....actually it isn't....but if you put awesome wire quotes on each one then its the best thing ever
Sure thing bro.
See you at the WireCon2014. You gonna cosplay Landsman again?
Frank Sobotka.
gawd simons next project is an hbo mini series on MLK
actually he said theres another miniseries they are doing first...hasnt been announced yet.
and i think they are just writing the bible to the mlk jawn. not actually writing the scripts.
full series is back on ondemand for you weirdos that dont have the box set
Starting a re-watch tomorrow.
I have the box too
HBOGO
honestly what is the point with elders
http://youtu.be/yu3qIakos9k
"aint no shame on holding onto grief....as long as you make room for other things" - reginald
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e7qisQrpqUE
dan rathers axs tv show tomorrow night is all david simon.....should be amazing
santangelo playing a priest on veep....hasnt aged a day
madame farging larue
In Baltimore, you gotta keep the devil [way down] in the hole, and your waves spinning. HBO's crown jewel and the undisputed GOAT of television gave us windows into all aspects and communities of the city, but none more alluring than the streets. And in the streets, nine out of ten characters were flossing their ill-gotten gains by way of crispy clean streetwear of the time (read: Rocawear), and of course, a nice crisp do-rag to make the cypher complete. Use this list as an excuse to spend hours marathoning that visual WMD on HBOGo and read: The Best Do-rag Moments in The Wire.
http://www.complex.com/style/2014/04/best-durag-moments-on-the-wire/?utm_campaign=complexmag%2Bsocialflow%2B04%2B2014&utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=social
Upper management likes to walk around to make sure everyone's doing their job, our building is huge. There's one guy in particular who can spot people screwing off from a mile away. I started saying "Omar comin" and now everyone knows to buckle down.
more scary than omar coming?
the thought that no one has been feeding wee bey's fish
omar introduced the nets last night
carver is going to be on the walking dead
so its him, cutty and d'angelo. who will be next?
http://instagram.com/p/oMroaIgSwk/
Looks fake
is real
Hood people have HDTV's, but they use Coax, thus that crappy picture.
I'm starting Tthis tonight
For the first time? What a pleasure, enjoy.
Yep
Like Havas said when I was watching it for my first time....I wish I was you
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on May 23, 2014, 07:13:14 PM
Like Havas said when I was watching it for my first time....I wish I was you
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I ain't never put my gun on someone who wasn't in the game
is there enough time to formulate a CF get together on dillens couch?
I'm on my way. Make some crack juice and I'll bring some fajitas
we should prob check with dillen first
He won't mind. Bring him an astros jersey or something and he'll be cool
lol....one of byron buxtons pubes will probably do it
I got back from Hawaii yesterday and was there for a week so I still feel like I'm 6 hours behind... this is going to go on til morning
Quote from: Dillen on May 24, 2014, 01:36:27 AM
I got back from Hawaii yesterday and was there for a week so I still feel like I'm 6 hours behind... this is going to go on til morning
haha
i am....i love mornings
Hawaii vacation and a wire marathon?
Nice
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=zmIvu1yg3bU
dem?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lfidBh_hAOE
best line ever "i feel old"
i would kill munson to be dillen right now
Quote from: MDS on May 24, 2014, 03:00:27 AM
i would kill munson to be dillen right now
lol...I would kill myself to be dillon right now
This show is dope. Finished the first season over maybe 36 hours. Wasn't as into it as much in the finale but I'm chalking that up to being tired.
Any of you remember Rashad Barksdale? Corner from UAlbany drafted in the 5th or 6th around 2007. I can't even imagine the boner igy had when the Eagles took him
http://www.concretefield.info/forum/index.php?topic=19653.30
Dillen is hooked!
You'll bang the other seasons out quick too. I'd stay up until like 5am bc I couldn't shut the DVD off
lol holy shtein he was trolling non stop in that thread
probably convinced himself he was d'angelo's brother or something
rip mahone
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TOZHwWFjb30
p.s. his son in real life is that funhole tj quinn from espn
Quote@KeithJones: Snowden: "Right now I'm watching the show The Wire about surveillance." #EdwardSnowden #NBC10 #TheWire @HBO
http://mackwilds.com
rawls is playing some mcnulty's father in law in some new show
he needs to call him a gaping icehole
A friend of mine let me borrow 'The Wire' over a year ago...got bored last night and decided to check it out.
Watched the first 3 episodes back to back to back. :paranoid
i knew you loved dragons and sorcery and that kind of stuff but i never knew you havent seent he wire.....wtf?
Quote from: ice grillin you on June 10, 2014, 06:50:06 AM
i knew you loved dragons and sorcery and that kind of stuff but i never knew you havent seent he wire.....wtf?
He was waiting for it to come out on Casa Caja Oficina.
probadores son hacia fuera
Bionic...welcome to the cult.
Dillen...thoughts so far? Have you finished it yet?
Nah, I told the ladyfriend she should watch it and I ended up re-watching season 1. I'm midway through s2 now
good for her.....most females i know cant get thru the first couple episodes
shtein most guys i know couldnt get thru the first season
Quote from: ice grillin you on June 10, 2014, 06:50:06 AM
i knew you loved dragons and sorcery and that kind of stuff but i never knew you havent seent he wire.....wtf?
I've been saving myself.
it's worth it.
When you blow your wad after a couple episodes you'll be happy
Two seasons done. By now we're all in agreement that Bunk and Omar are the best characters, yeah?
pretty much. once you finish you will never see another tv show or movie without recognizing one of the characters and wishing they were still the people from the wire.
I started my 4th re-watch last week. season 1 down, on to season 2. i will still never get over that *spoiiler*a farging church window causes a massive investigation that leads to multiple deaths. Valcheck is a funhole
Quote from: Dillen on June 13, 2014, 02:00:25 AM
Two seasons done. By now we're all in agreement that Bunk and Omar are the best characters, yeah?
my top 5
1. bodie
2. omar
3. frank s.
4. rawls
5. landsman
bey was my man but wasn't in it enough.....and levy is mad underrated
landsman
omar
slim charles
dukie
herc & carver buddy cops
honorable mention: donut though a small character, he's my favorite. f'n city is full of donuts.
ask me again in a year and you'll get a different answer.
SPOILERS
- I liked that they showed the Greek is Prop Joe's supplier at the end of S2
- showing Clay Davis at the condo groundbreaking near the docks at the end of S2 - any doubt that next season is on corrupt politicians? Probably start S3 this weekend
- Omar just preaches. When he said that Levy is just like himself leeching off the game that's ruining the city I lost it
Quote from: Diomedes on June 13, 2014, 08:21:17 AM
ask me again in a year and you'll get a different answer.
this is so true....broadus always stays my 1....but the rest is impossible....farging stringer who would easily be the #1 character on any other show didnt even make my top 5...the depth of great characters on the wire is insane....all due to the writing which is inexplicably great
Pretty much dead on.
I got one of my customers hooked and we spent an hour talking about the show today
Quote from: ice grillin you on June 13, 2014, 08:09:23 AM
Quote from: Dillen on June 13, 2014, 02:00:25 AM
Two seasons done. By now we're all in agreement that Bunk and Omar are the best characters, yeah?
my top 5
1. bodie
2. omar
3. frank v.
4. rawls
5. landsman
bey was my man but wasn't in it enough.....and levy is mad underrated
bodie is my favorite too. stringer #2 for me though.
1 bunk
2 omar
3 avon
4 bodie
5 slim
6 joe!
see i totally forgot about joe....hes the landsman of the streets
Quote from: Eagles_Legendz on June 14, 2014, 01:23:38 AM
Quote from: ice grillin you on June 13, 2014, 08:09:23 AM
Quote from: Dillen on June 13, 2014, 02:00:25 AM
Two seasons done. By now we're all in agreement that Bunk and Omar are the best characters, yeah?
my top 5
1. bodie
2. omar
3. frank v.
4. rawls
5. landsman
bey was my man but wasn't in it enough.....and levy is mad underrated
bodie is my favorite too. stringer #2 for me though.
I have no idea how stringer wasn't in my top 5 and maybe even 2.....like dio said....maybe next time
Don't say anything if it happens in the later seasons, but thru the first 2 I don't get all the love for Bodie
he kills valchek
Ha. I hear Prez and Bunk tag team Kima too
bodie is the truth
lol at youtube of over two hours from ONE season...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TB6slIsR3vs
we know a tv show cant but name me even a movie that can step to this.....
have him dance on some empty's before he go out there
paul blart mall cop
No love for Bubbles?
And there's season 4
It's all downhill after season 4
top 5 seasons in tv history
1. wire s4
2. wire s2
3. wire s1
4. wire s3
5. wire s5
Yeah, s4 was awesome but I didn't really like the last episode. They left a lot open which could set up a dope s5, but in the last few episodes they also focused on stories I really don't give a shtein about - Carver caring about that kid, Bubbles' whole thing, some more. Hope those don't turn into key points in s5
carver dropping randy off at the group home is as devastating as it gets....the little touch of him twisting the rearview mirror cause he cant stand himself is brilliant
Yeah that little part was good, I thought the best part of the story was when he was yelling at Carver in the hospital, but it just kind of dragged. I guess I have no idea if any of the kids will have a role in s5 except for Michael
Quote from: ice grillin you on June 24, 2014, 07:22:01 AM
top 5 seasons in tv history
1. wire s4
2. wire s2
3. wire s1
4. wire s3
5. wire s5
Much like the top 5 characters, my fave seasons list changes because each time I've watched it I notice some new subtle nuance that changes my opinion. S5 always stays last, but you can find a reason to shuffle the other 4 in pretty much any order.
4 and 2 are always at the top for me but in almost every poll ive ever seen 2 always comes in fourth place......its so underrated
S2 will only be rated 4th by people who have only watched it once, especially if it was watched continuously. I didn't care much for it after my first watch, but I think that's due to the fact that I watched it straight through and found myself focusing on the absurdity that this entire investigation started over a church window, so I was less focused on the characters and developing story. Halfway through, I just wanted to get that season over with and move on.
It wasn't until I watched it for a 2nd time that I really paid attention and appreciated just how good it really was.
Quote from: ice grillin you on June 24, 2014, 01:33:45 PM
4 and 2 are always at the top for me but in almost every poll ive ever seen 2 always comes in fourth place......its so underrated
ZiggyFactor.
its not ziggy he was ridiculously good....its generally because people want more street and less docks
it took time to get into it. s2 changing gears from s1 was pretty much the first time that happened, viewing experience wise for the audience. were not used that type of storytelling...so the expectations of picking up with stringer and avon werent met, and its like who the farg is ziggy and these white people.
once you cleared that hurdle it was tremendous. on 2nd viewing it moved past s3 for me.
i have to binge watch this again. got off next week. perfect time.
In line at Dunkin Donuts this morning with my buddy and he says "yeah just watched the episode where they kill Stringer"...girl behind us goes can you guys shut it I'm only on season 2. You shut it, bitch.
lolol
That's where you ask politely what year it is.
Done. Yeah, best show I've ever seen.
Didn't really like season 5 much. It just got more and more ridiculous as it went along. It was still good but nowhere near the same level as the other seasons. Didn't like how they dealt with some of the characters at the end (pretty sure any of you can guess who, but you could see it coming), but they did a good job wrapping it up and showing that the same shtein is going to happen with all new people. Would've liked to see more stuff like season 2.
1a. s4
1b. s2
2a. s3
2b. s1
5. s5
Congrats on enjoying the GOAT show.
Now sock them away for a re-watch in six months and you'll pick up even more things that you miss the first time around.
6 mo? Take a week of and then watch it again, only not in marathon mode. 2nd time through is better than the 1st because you do pick up on quite a few things that you wouldn't notice during the 1st watch.
i notice stuff after 10+ watches....its stupid shtein like seeing a street sign in season four where some shtein went down and it being the same street where snot boogie was killed....but you always get new stuff it seems no matter how many times you watch it
i also recommend reading homicide....its a great companion piece to the show
Quote from: ice grillin you on June 28, 2014, 03:03:14 PM
....its stupid shtein like seeing a street sign in season four where some shtein went down and it being the same street where snot boogie was killed....
Ha I actually caught this the first time.
The whole series just brings everything full circle. I farging love it. Towards the end of season 5 where they were doing groundbreaking for the new apartment complex and Nico starts yelling and cursing out the mayor about ruining the harbor was GOAT. Dude hadn't been a part of the show for 3 seasons and just shows up for those 2 minutes. Similar stuff with a bunch of other characters as well. Goddamn.
http://www.npr.org/2014/06/21/323973907/from-backup-dancer-to-the-wire-how-a-scar-transformed-a-career
Nice read...wtf with people carrying razors in their mouth in the freeworld...that is some penitentiary shtein there
no way
buck 50 yo....this was huge in nyc in the 80's and 90's
QuoteChrisBauer 30 points 22 hours ago
first of all, you can obviously write, so i'm not surprised you were affected by 'the wire'. frank sobotka was a real interesting combo of intuitive conjuring and just flawless authorship. thank you for the compliment but i've never been so uninvolved in the evolution of a character. to my mind, david simon, george pelicans, ed burns, rafael alvarez, etc. wrote that season with such a restless devotion to the baltimore waterfront and its inhabitants that all you had to do was tune it in, like a radio station. i just got the hell out of the way and let it unfold. i think for my part i really related to a guy who had fully absorbed working for others as an ethic, but was not raised in a world with much moral sophistication. and as a stubborn pragmatist, he had a plan and stuck to it. but what was exciting was that he had enough access to a sense of soul that he was not blind to the consequences of his actions. he suffered. as far as ziggy's mom goes, i think i recall her in the recesses of my imagination as a sort of pilled out smoker, agoraphobic who never left the flat. he lived like a widower, but she was very much alive. toward the end of the season when Ziggy is in jail, frank says 'leave your mom out of this', and Zig says 'oh, she's out of it, don't worry'. how good is that writing?????? that scene with james ransone btw is my favorite scene i've ever done. it was two ugly people drowning in their human-ness. and yeah, parks and recreation was a hoot. i was out of my league. if they don't ask me to cry or punch someone, what am i supposed to do?
ive been on record for years as saying frank was the single best character in the history of tv and season 2 is right there as the goat.....thats not to say hes my favorite wire guy but bauers performance (which he humbly passes off) is just other worldly good
and yes the toombs visiting room scene is as good as it gets in movies or tv
i was watching that episode this morning and i stopped it right before that scene because i didn't want to be depressed the rest of the day
wow when he walks back into the belly of the beast.....it feels like your own son or best friend is doing it
chills....
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YrSy9r0-lMg&feature=kp
http://www.salon.com/2014/07/13/gunplay_is_all_i_know/
excellent read
http://davidsimon.com/within-the-acela-cocoon/
david simon wins at life again
Sabatka is on True Blood....
also this is the only 5 minutes I've seen of this show and it is god awful (breaking news right)
youd be better off watching "the divide" which is an anti death penalty series with frankie on it
Just started a re-watch this past weekend and despite having seen it numerous times I still binge watch.
Banged out ten episodes since Sat night.
http://www.nbcwashington.com/news/local/Anwan-Glover-Actor-in-The-Wire-Stabbed-Beaten-Inside-DC-Nightclub-269741441.html
Was watching the I love the 2000s show and they have Michael Kenneth Williams do an anti hero segment before each clerical break. He's days 'like the character omar' then gives an example of guys like Tony Soprano or Vic Mackey. They do a funny segment on the Wire.
if its a lie, then we fight on that lie
slim got stabbed for real in DC this morning. at a sushi joint by my office.
Quote from: ice grillin you on August 03, 2014, 04:19:14 PM
http://www.nbcwashington.com/news/local/Anwan-Glover-Actor-in-The-Wire-Stabbed-Beaten-Inside-DC-Nightclub-269741441.html
how high is he in that picture?
g/f and I were watching Limitless last night. I commented the detective interviewing Bradley Cooper played a cop on the Wire. Boom, we're now watching the Wire.
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0933096/?ref_=ttfc_fc_cl_t15
He's from Philly too
andre royo is just fantastic in the short scene where holly is beatin on him after he pages kima when shes been shot
i don't remember that dude in rounders, and i've seen that movie like 500 times
power is blacker than the wire
http://www.buzzfeed.com/kateaurthur/african-american-viewers-premium-cable-ratings
My mind is blown....just finished s4 and was googling the kid actors to see where they are now and ran across this...randy is cheese's kid?!?
QuoteCalvin "Cheese" Wagstaff (named "Melvin Flagstaff" during Season 2) is a fictional character on the HBO television series The Wire. He is portrayed by hip hop recording artist Method Man. He is a crew chief for his uncle Proposition Joe's drug organization and later works for the Stanfield Organization after betraying his uncle and handing him over to Marlo Stanfield. He is also the father of Randy Wagstaff according to creator David Simon, though this is never explored or even stated on the show.[1][2]
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Exactly!
lol...simon said it in like 2008...and before that it was always a huge topic of discussion...is he a nephew (what i thought) a seedling....no relation
Yeah I didn't hear that or remember hearing it.
walter cantrell is in the wip studios today
http://deadspin.com/cardinals-fans-of-the-game-in-baltimore-are-characters-1618734241?utm_campaign=socialflow_deadspin_facebook&utm_source=deadspin_facebook&utm_medium=socialflow
the wire is the gift that keeps on giving
Quote from: Sgt PSN on August 09, 2014, 03:16:43 PM
http://deadspin.com/cardinals-fans-of-the-game-in-baltimore-are-characters-1618734241?utm_campaign=socialflow_deadspin_facebook&utm_source=deadspin_facebook&utm_medium=socialflow
that's great
http://www.hitfix.com/blogs/the-fien-print/posts/tv-s-best-of-the-decade-no-1-the-wire
QuoteBy Daniel Fienberg @HitFixDaniel | Thursday, Dec 31, 2009 4:54 PM
The Wire
« on: May 01, 2007, 01:39:48 PM »
you get on J for not realizing something thats been out there for like 7 years (yea i know it was weak), then proceed to post some 5-year-old story by a hipster jew calling it the goat.
who young leek be?
Quote from: MDS on August 11, 2014, 01:05:33 AM
you get on J for not realizing something thats been out there for like 7 years (yea i know it was weak), then proceed to post some 5-year-old story by a hipster jew calling it the goat.
who young leek be?
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ill post anything about the wire thats awesome
btw I just read like the first 75 pages of the wire thread and forgot how much sunny despised the show before watching it
i tried watching it for the second time last week...not sure if any show has ever aged worse (top 3 at least). not sure if bad acting or script but almost unwatchable.
oh no
yeah I dont even know what to say
I think Matt has alcohol poisoning. Seek help fast.
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he was too busy eating dom brown's icehole to watch
figured you mopes would know i was joking when i said top 3.
but this is actually only my second watch an it's been like 8 years since i originally saw it. i remember the main story lines but most of this shtein is like watching all over again. still good.
the great thing about the wire is that it could never age badly because what makes it the goat is the writing
yeah, i think the only this is what they're wearing aka White Mike, that aged.
http://hbowatch.com/the-wire-being-remastered-rebroadcast-in-hd-by-hbo/
that promo gives the chills
it would be really cool to rebroadcast the wire and do what amc does with a lot of its movies having the pop up things where they give tidbits of info and shtein about the show
doooshhchillsss
Quote from: SunMo on September 02, 2014, 07:23:03 AM
http://hbowatch.com/the-wire-being-remastered-rebroadcast-in-hd-by-hbo/
also there is a guy in that silver bullet pool named Wire Nut
QuoteRE: "The Wire" being remastered in HD for September marathon, HBO says the date was premature, and they're still working on process.
My fantasy name for my one league is Omar's Coming
lestor is going to be on david simon's new jawn
http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/boardwalk-empire-star-michael-kenneth-732159?utm_source=twitter
short but some awesome wire shtein in this
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W9ATmlsGMfE#t=1685
http://insidetv.ew.com/2014/10/03/the-wire-cast-members-reunite-paleyfest/
ummmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm yes
brianna barksdale has a major role in nightstalker with jake gyllenhall
http://www.avclub.com/article/heres-wire-reunion-last-nights-paleyfest-210639?utm_source=Facebook&utm_medium=SocialMarketing&utm_campaign=LinkPreview:1:Default
i love the simon line where he says "theres a whole part of America that isnt worthy of narrative".....that to me is the wire.....it truly is something that will ever be matched
also why was larry doman on stage at all much less instead of jd williams
his name is john doman
d'angelo rawls
johnny black ddod
Good interview with Bubs
http://www.wtfpod.com/podcast/episodes/episode_544_-_andre_royo
the ladyfriend was in the stairwell at work. Someone was a few floors up, his steps making echoes and he was doing Omar's whistle. She said it felt too real and ran out of there lol
Lol that's great
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http://davidsimon.com/the-wire-in-hd/
yo
Girlfriend wanted to start this up again. Now we're near the end of s3.
Best lines of the series? I'm trying to come up with some but it's all Omar. There has to be more than that
Theres gotta be dozens of great lines from characters other than Omar scattered throughout this thread. Point is, Omar is great, but some of the best lines came from other characters.
yeah omar has a case for best character obviously...but when i think of him i dont think of one liners necessarily...altho he had them
landsman for one kills omar in the best lines category...im not sure if omar would crack the top 5
Quote from: Dillen on December 02, 2014, 11:04:18 PM
Best lines of the series? I'm trying to come up with some but it's all Omar. There has to be more than that
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Sgj78QG9Bg
Sheeeeeeeeeeiit.
Always liked that one. Can't remember the characters name tbough I know he was a politician.
Clay Davis...c'mon man
I'm terrible with names. Sorry. I know it's like sacrilege around here to not know everything that is the wire. Ha.
Prop Joe had 1 of my favorite lines in the entire series that seems to get over looked. During a Co-op meeting, while commenting on how the different gangs came together, he's says "you're a cold ass crew of gangsters and yall carried this like Republicans and shtein."
Just a great line.
actually his best performance as the melody of voices he did when trying to find out who was on the major crimes unit in season 4
a bit of an unrealistic scene (why would someone like prop joe be that good at doing voices?), but hysterical nonetheless
RIP
Mayor Carcetti.
"I still wake up white in a city that's not."
if it wasnt for sergei here...you and your cuz would both be some cadaverous motherfargers
wallace at the sixer game tonight
lol
Is he in Philly for the Creed movie?
I watched some bromance movie the other night with him and zac efron and some other dude
Don't even remember the name of it but it wasn't terrible like I expected
if you didnt think that or breakout were terrible then theres never been a bad movie ever
What's breakout?
I've seen some horrific movies tho. I expected that one to be awful but I didn't flip it off and it held my attention enough
that hideous stallone arnold movie you were talking about in the other thread....is that not what its called?
that could win a razzie this year
Escape Plan lol
yeah.....just AWFUL....but I felt like it was purposely trying to be terrible....like so bad its good....it massively failed either way
lol I'm desperate for a great movie
Bad ones are looking good
Like being drunk and farging the ugly chick thinking she's hot
Quote from: ice grillin you on December 05, 2014, 09:23:20 PM
yeah.....just AWFUL....but I felt like it was purposely trying to be terrible....like so bad its good....it massively failed either way
it was entertainingly bad. a horrible movie in every way imaginable, but very campy and stupid and to a certain extent they were trying to do that. it was also really poorly directed and shot, the sound mixing was abominable. i was laughing at those thing.
it reminded me of con air, but con air was a masterpiece
never seen con air cause I generally dont watch stupid movies but breakout was an abomination on every conceivable level
con air is the ultimate good bad movie....it pulls the whole thing off perfectly
the movie wasnt called breakout, it was called escape plan. and it pulls off the good bad thing well, its just more tv movie bad and youre laughing at sly and arnie more than anything. the cheapness of the film brings it down. con air was filmed really well and not for one second did it not take itself seriously, which is the key for a good bad movie. escape plan they were obviously in on the joke.
A Good Day to Die Hard was hilariously bad too. There was a point where they drove a truck off a helicopter in mid-air.
No spoiler alert, sorry.
Speaking of Die Hard...it's time to bust out the Christmas movie rotation and that's in it
HBO is doing a Wire marathon in hd starting December 26th
Quote from: SD on December 11, 2014, 07:45:10 PM
HBO is doing a Wire marathon in hd starting December 26th
the preview for this is spine tingling
What time does it start? I'll watch every second
26th - noon - 100am
27th - noon - midnight
28th - noon - midnight
29th - noon - 100am
30th - noon - 1030pm
and its on hbo sig
I'll watch the 26-29th
http://youtu.be/c9afL2_vpo4
comcast doesnt offer hbo sig HD, i think
hbogo stillupfront's mom
Quote from: SD on December 22, 2014, 08:04:53 PM
http://youtu.be/c9afL2_vpo4
this is the promo I was talking about....I dare anyone to listen to this and not get goosebumps
^^^ pretty much.
I'm taking the ladyfriend through it and we just finished season 4. I might have a new favorite season, feel like that changes every time I rewatch.
She was really upset when they ambushed Bodie. This chick is the best
i dont have hbo sig HD and i dont think you do either
if I knew what a screen shot was id take one for you
do you have verizon?
Comcast doesn't have sig in hd. Still gonna watch
In.
Have the DVR set and ready to rock
Quote from: SD on December 22, 2014, 08:04:53 PM
http://youtu.be/c9afL2_vpo4
just for shteins an giggles
its gonna drop on hbogo soon....but it just aint the same as watching it on tv
"Yeah yeah. Think I give a farg? I'll be chalkin you off one day"
this looks so much better than the dvd's
"money be green stillupfront's mom"
"These are for you, McNulty. I'm going to jam one up your narrow Irish ass and the other in your eye"
oh shtein gant got got
its on now
Happy now, bitch?
Sick in bed watching the wire marathon. Could be worse.
Just followed "Poot" on twitter...he's live tweeting
Said he ate so many nuggets in this scene he got sick
Also that he originally read for the wee-bay part
"Just me, my partner and Mr shtein here"
"A vial for your thoughts, Bunk?"
its really not fair how good the writing is on this show
levy is the farging man
HBO sig does have hd...its channel 1915 Comcast in philly
Quote from: ice grillin you on December 26, 2014, 01:20:56 PM
its really not fair how good the writing is on this show
Namond on twitter
@IamJulito: "The wire" was flawlessly written. The way they would take one conversation and put it in another scene in a reverse situation. brilliant!
Quote from: SD on December 26, 2014, 01:57:25 PM
HBO sig does have hd...its channel 1915 Comcast in philly
904 verizon
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on December 26, 2014, 02:10:36 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on December 26, 2014, 01:20:56 PM
its really not fair how good the writing is on this show
Namond on twitter
@IamJulito: "The wire" was flawlessly written. The way they would take one conversation and put it in another scene in a reverse situation. brilliant!
shakesperean
king stay the king
The checkers on chessboard scene is one of the best
its crazy how the most universally loved character on the show and possibly in the history of tv doesnt even appear until 1.3
Everytime I see Sydnor he reminds me of Igoudala...doppelgänger
Poot on twitter
@traychaney: What you didn't know: that throw up scene, I actually had soup in my mouth the whole time & that's what it was http://t.co/4MvXxZlIqN
lol @ we got the room to run a little crazy on you
i wanna hump a saucy wench
@IamJulito: Fun fact RT @AndreRoyo: @HBO The Word on the streets if I said no to playing "Bubs" the role would have went to Lt. Daniels. #TheWireHD
https://twitter.com/justin_fenton/status/548563880822452225
This dude is a Baltimore Sun reporter and he went out and did after shots of popular locations. Pretty cool
Farmer in the dell
ayo lesson here bey
You come at the King you best not miss
omar comin
"Maybe three holes is code for three stash houses"
http://www.buzzfeed.com/kelleylcarter/its-time-to-revisit-the-greatest-tv-show-ever-that-no-one-wa?bffb&utm_term=4ldqpgp&s=mobile
The interaction with the actors on twitter today is cool
Poot
Herc
Landsman
Namond
Bodie
Pearlman
All tweeting
http://kottke.org.s3.amazonaws.com/the-wire/The_Wire_-_Bible.pdf
Wow
Check that
@JDWilliamsEnt: Some of my favorite Wire lines" Do this look like money? Money be green,muthafarga!"...
is there a more intense half hour in tv history than the last 15 min of 1.10 and the first 15 of 1.11
if there was would you admit that there was
there isn't....in fact im trying to think of a movie that tops it much less tv
Quote from: ice grillin you on December 26, 2014, 10:19:55 PM
is there a more intense half hour in tv history than the last 15 min of 1.10 and the first 15 of 1.11
Nope. Not that I can think of.
Rawls' only time he had any compassion too
rawls being compassionate is calling someone a gaping icehole
lol pretty much...he absolves McNulty of blame and then calls him a gaping icehole. Compassionate as he gonna be
lol...yup
rawls is a top 5 for me....him and landsman are both so underrated
Isn't Rawls (Doman) from Philly too?
I think Matty said he played poker once with the dude who plays Lamdsman
yeah hes from the belly of the neast.....and who hasn't matty played cards with
lol good point...maybe Tiger Woods and Phil Ivy and that's it.
McNulty going in on Levy is great too.
oh yeah he goes OFF
Levy is perfectly cast...they nailed that role. Perfect amount of smugness and arrogance
perfect amount of jew
Haha pretty much
So I've been glued to the tv like it's my first watch...and it's the sixth. Eight hours in and I'm still wanting more.
this daniels mcnutty scene is epic
wheres the boy string
Quote from: ice grillin you on December 26, 2014, 10:23:35 PM
there isn't....in fact im trying to think of a movie that tops it much less tv
godfather 2 when kay tells michael she had an abortion
jew cleansing montage from schindlers
the entire romanian abortion movie you made me watch that was super good
all of angel heart
Romanian abortion movie??
"Where's Wallace?!"
Quote from: ice grillin you on December 26, 2014, 11:39:20 PM
all of angel heart
lol.....you have many shortcomings. your obsession with this POS tops the list.
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on December 26, 2014, 11:39:28 PM
Romanian abortion movie??
i suggest you watch it.
What's the name
him....he in philly
Tap tap tap
Tap tap tap
Her name was Deidre. One of my uncles girls...
Wee-Bey come running around the side with that .45 he loves so much...
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on December 27, 2014, 12:26:46 AM
Wee-Bey come running around the side with that .45 he loves so much...
that's a classic
Bodie going off on them fools
"The farg you doing? This ain't no open market"
And then Carver drops the "we farg up they give us pensions" line
@IamJulito: Even Tho Mcnulty Was A Piece Of shtein... This Scene Made You Love Him
From Namond
everyone on the wire is a piece of shtein
mcnutty bout to ride the boat
Thought you was real police...brother
Quote from: ice grillin you on December 27, 2014, 12:38:09 AM
everyone on the wire is a piece of shtein
name the 1 character....fairly major...who simon sort of kept free of sin
Kima is probably the cleanest
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on December 27, 2014, 12:42:47 AM
Kima is probably the cleanest
she cheated on her spouse....bailed on a kid
NOPE
Carver getting called out for being a snitch to Burrell...awkward
Philly skyline shot!
Whyd you have to farg with my ride
Quote from: MDS on December 27, 2014, 12:42:03 AM
Quote from: ice grillin you on December 27, 2014, 12:38:09 AM
everyone on the wire is a piece of shtein
name the 1 character....fairly major...who simon sort of kept free of sin
beadie is the only one I can think of
rawls is a god
holy shtein bey coppin to his killings is ridiculous
Why'd he eat the murders?
Quote from: ice grillin you on December 27, 2014, 12:50:01 AM
Quote from: MDS on December 27, 2014, 12:42:03 AM
Quote from: ice grillin you on December 27, 2014, 12:38:09 AM
everyone on the wire is a piece of shtein
name the 1 character....fairly major...who simon sort of kept free of sin
beadie is the only one I can think of
nah she wasnt big enough
its sydnor, aka dre dog
Sydnor and Kima...
lol at Wee-Bey shaking his head bc of no potato salad
beadie was as big or bigger than sydnor
Quote from: ice grillin you on December 27, 2014, 12:56:21 AM
beadie was as big or bigger than sydnor
perhaps...maybe i shouldnt have said big
im just repeating what king jew david simon said
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on December 27, 2014, 12:53:52 AM
Why'd he eat the murders?
cause he isnt a rat....he is shielding his peoples
only in the wire do the protagonist and antagonist say this to each other....no bullshtein confrontation....no speeches....just this
"nicely done"
"catch ya next time"
"nicely done"
thats it, thats the list.
Quote from: MDS on December 27, 2014, 12:56:59 AM
Quote from: ice grillin you on December 27, 2014, 12:56:21 AM
beadie was as big or bigger than sydnor
perhaps...maybe i shouldnt have said big
im just repeating what king jew david simon said
I didn't hear him say it but maybe he was talking only season 1?
Quote from: ice grillin you on December 27, 2014, 12:57:28 AM
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on December 27, 2014, 12:53:52 AM
Why'd he eat the murders?
cause he isnt a rat....he is shielding his peoples
Sure but to cop to life? You'd think they'd make them make the case
i love that nod avon gives mcnulty...all in the game
all in the game, yo
S2 tomorrow. Bubs said he's gonna live tweet it
the wire is the #1 trending topic in baltimore right now
no other show could be this relevant 7 years after ending....only the wire....all your other tv shows can die
Quote from: MDS on December 27, 2014, 01:02:35 AM
i love that nod avon gives mcnulty...all in the game
I hate the slow motion tho....they did that a few times in s1 and it not good
TheWireHD and TheWireMarathon should be pretty high nationally too
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on December 27, 2014, 12:59:41 AM
Quote from: ice grillin you on December 27, 2014, 12:57:28 AM
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on December 27, 2014, 12:53:52 AM
Why'd he eat the murders?
cause he isnt a rat....he is shielding his peoples
Sure but to cop to life? You'd think they'd make them make the case
He copped to the Gant murder so they could try to get Byrd out. He was already getting life so what's the difference how many he confesses to
Quote from: ice grillin you on December 27, 2014, 01:08:45 AM
Quote from: MDS on December 27, 2014, 01:02:35 AM
i love that nod avon gives mcnulty...all in the game
I hate the slow motion tho....they did that a few times in s1 and it not good
Couldn't agree more...I missed the episode the first time he sees Barksdale in the suv but I'm pretty sure that was slow motion too
yup same thing....no need for it
Quote from: ice grillin you on December 27, 2014, 01:08:45 AMI hate the slow motion tho....they did that a few times in s1 and it not good
true...his walk to the pit with the slo mo and horrible song is the worst moment in the show.
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on December 27, 2014, 01:09:30 AM
TheWireHD and TheWireMarathon should be pretty high nationally too
they were up there....but at 1am they are gone...but not in bodymore
Quote from: ice grillin you on December 27, 2014, 01:09:45 AM
even seinfeld?
i love jewfeld......but the wire makes it look like koq
Quote from: SD on December 27, 2014, 01:13:12 AM
Quote from: ice grillin you on December 27, 2014, 01:08:45 AM
Quote from: MDS on December 27, 2014, 01:02:35 AM
i love that nod avon gives mcnulty...all in the game
I hate the slow motion tho....they did that a few times in s1 and it not good
Couldn't agree more...I missed the episode the first time he sees Barksdale in the suv but I'm pretty sure that was slow motion too
Yeah the dikembe finger wag he gives Daniels is in slow mo
they were still learning how to do tv...its newspaper writers novelists and ex cops....they didn't know shtein about tv....they also farged up trying to be tricky doing the CC camera shots in the pit and the govt buildings....so cliché and not what the wire was
the one tv guy who played a role....robert colesberry....doesnt exactly have a dynamite resume
he was more of a veteran assistant coach, something like a competent pat shurmur to simon/burns' chip
Quote from: MDS on December 27, 2014, 01:07:40 AM
the wire is the #1 trending topic in baltimore right now
no other show could be this relevant 7 years after ending....only the wire....all your other tv shows can die
7th in Houston
3rd in Austin
5th in Dallas
4th in Philly
hipsters and blacks
Quote from: ice grillin you on December 27, 2014, 01:25:08 AM
hipsters and blacks
3rd in Denver
4th in San Diego
not ranked in Portland
3rd in Seattle
5th in Colorado Springs
2nd in Omaha
5th in Phoenix
not ranked in Minneapolis
3rd in San Fran
6th in Boston
5th in Memphis
9th in Orlando
2nd in Kansas City
Wow
its a top 5 most popular show all time with blacks
in fact early on they were the only ones watching it....it wasnt until s4 when the tv critics went crazy and the hipsters came in
lets be real hipsters didn't come in until like 2-3 years after it was off the air
Season 2 bitches
IN!
Sergei and Nick Sobotka on twitter...hoping Frank joins in today
3 1/2 inches
Quote from: ice grillin you on December 27, 2014, 01:08:45 AM
Quote from: MDS on December 27, 2014, 01:02:35 AM
i love that nod avon gives mcnulty...all in the game
I hate the slow motion tho....they did that a few times in s1 and it not good
I just started watching for the first time last night and thought the same thing....and hate all the verizon plugs.
We got a first timer here!
lucky bastich
chris bauer is out of control
Still sux seeing d'angelo go out like that.
Quote from: smeags on December 27, 2014, 06:00:12 PM
Still sux seeing d'angelo go out like that.
He seemed like a good kid
did he have hands.....did he have a face
Quote from: ice grillin you on December 27, 2014, 08:41:17 PM
did he have hands.....did he have a face
Yes? Then it wasn't us.
GOAT line
boris!
always boris....
I know why he's a good character but I still can't stand Ziggy.
that's how good ransome is.....if ziggy wasn't annoying as hell then he wouldn't have done his job as an actor
I had no idea the dude who played Sergei wasn't Russian...good job by him to carry that accent
Valcheck just got checked...whats up Prezbooooooo
Quote from: Eagles_Legendz on December 27, 2014, 09:28:36 PM
I know why he's a good character but I still can't stand Ziggy.
Knew way too many ziggys growing up and he nailed it.
Quote from: ice grillin you on December 27, 2014, 09:39:11 PM
that's how good ransome is.....if ziggy wasn't annoying as hell then he wouldn't have done his job as an actor
hes despised by the public....no clue why oh wait hes amazing and the wire is the goat
I hate Valchek...shteinbird!
"hook a brotha up" - WhiteMike
ziggy/frank jailhouse scene
these 3 minutes are in a different galaxy of amazing
Season 3 ...The Wire > playoffless eagles ? Yes ? no ?
Exactly how it was when they imploded the Sears tower. Cool till you had to turn and run for cover.
im just a gangsta i suppose and i want my corners
beginning of the end of the barksdale crew
@WendellPierce: Wire Trivia: NYPD called to complain drug crews in NY were mimicking The Wire and started using "burners" #TheWireMarathon
@WendellPierce: Wire Trivia: Snoop hated the fact they dressed her like a girl with long braids for her drive by on the motorcycle.
stringer avon confrontation
booooonnneerrrrr
Love it
best part of s3 is rawls at the comstat meetings....he so ill in every single one
Omar and Brother Mouzone in the alley....fantastic scene
worryin bout you be like wonderin if the sun gonna come up
Well get on with it mother....
Just started season 2...this show is great; 2nd best crime drama to the original Law & Order
it makes me sick when slim goes to marlo's crew
http://instagram.com/p/xLS6yhrzx7/
you cant listen to carcetti's soliliqy without hearing it in david simons voice
the frank sobotka sign during the s3 ending montage....god damnit
tv will never be better. it cant.
3 down 1 to go
Quote from: MDS on December 29, 2014, 12:02:48 AM
the frank sobotka sign during the s3 ending montage....god damnit
tv will never be better. it cant.
god i love the ending and how they have bubs with his kid protégé cued up saying how rough it is out there leading into s4 which is all about how hard it is as a kid to have to grow up in that environment....just absolute brilliance how everything is connected
theres a million examples of that....the show is so farging rich
kenard saying "i want to be omar" in s3 when the kids are re-creating the shootout
the girl in s3 who buys drugs in hampsterdram....then is tricking in s4....then is in NA in s5
the judge saying "i can see you wearing the robe someday" to ronnie in s1
clay davis rainmaking stringer....then it being something he mentions in passing to lester in s5
ALL THE PIECES MATTER
those things are cool like being able to use the same actor in a bit role again thru seasons but I like the theme connections like the one I just mentioned more
Quote from: MDS on December 29, 2014, 12:21:21 AM
theres a million examples of that....the show is so farging rich
kenard saying "i want to be omar" in s3 when the kids are re-creating the shootout
the girl in s3 who buys drugs in hampsterdram....then is tricking in s4....then is in NA in s5
the judge saying "i can see you wearing the robe someday" to ronnie in s1
clay davis rainmaking stringer....then it being something he mentions in passing to lester in s5
ALL THE PIECES MATTER
My favorite is Mcnulty saying near the beginning of S1 E1 how he'd hate to be on boat duty. Then he ends up on boat duty in S2. I didn't remember him saying that the 1st time I watched....its such a throw away line that had no meaning at the time. 2nd time I watched and I heard him say it I started laughing.
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on December 28, 2014, 10:05:32 PM
Omar and Brother Mouzone in the alley....fantastic scene
"you just be ready bowtie"
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@MarlonBrandan: The dude with the Kufi on his head that gave Omar a shiv for protection is the real Omar Little...Donnie Andrews. #TheWireHD
Watching season 3 finale ... The best cans on the district roof. Classic.
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on December 29, 2014, 05:57:01 PM
@MarlonBrandan: The dude with the Kufi on his head that gave Omar a shiv for protection is the real Omar Little...Donnie Andrews. #TheWireHD
welcome to 2004 twitter
lol I didn't know
what!!?!?
I didn't know that. Learn something new every day!
yeah it came out I think when s4 ended....simon interview....it also was in the wire book
Hmmm must've missed it or forgot bc I read the book
YO HAVAS....WHO YOUNG LEEK BE?!
someone the average balmer stillupfront's mom know
"no more bodies"
"damn you didn't even wait to get the motherfarger in the house"
brillant back story scene on Chris
@IamJulito: First Time I Did That Scene I Made A Mistake & Threw The Paint Can @ Officer Walkers Back.. When u Think about he deserved that . Ur welcome
snitchin randy!
Lester has found the vacants...shteins gonna get real
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Bubs yakking all over Landsman...and landsman goes with the flow. Sees "Rawls sucks cock" on the wall and lolol
"How about we take yo flag ass into the back and get into some diabolical brutality?"
Cheese!
is hbo also making the series available via OnDemand ? my damn dvr ran out of space !
Since they did the upgrade to HD, is there finally going to be a Blu Ray release in the near future?
Quote from: smeags on December 30, 2014, 10:14:38 AM
is hbo also making the series available via OnDemand ? my damn dvr ran out of space !
If you have Amazon Prime, you can stream the shtein for free
Quote from: Tomahawk on December 30, 2014, 12:25:48 PM
Quote from: smeags on December 30, 2014, 10:14:38 AM
is hbo also making the series available via OnDemand ? my damn dvr ran out of space !
If you have Amazon Prime, you can stream the shtein for free
might have to check that out because i ran out of dvr space after S4 EP 2.
how do you not have the dvd box set?
@WendellPierce: Wire Trivia: Sun reporter Gutierrez was played by Michelle Paress, Real life wife of Larry Gilliard , DeAngelo Barksdale. #TheWireMarathon
phreak..maybe take a break from tweeting all the actors while watching.
but hes learning lots of new tidbits....like idris elba who played stringer bell is british
he's probably also learning what a block button is
lol no one has blocked me and everyone is tweeting while watching it...hence the live tweet and discussion.
Sooooooooo....kiss me ass
Quote from: SunMo on December 30, 2014, 03:14:58 PM
he's probably also learning what a block button is
actually the only person who has blocked me is mr havas lolol
jay's a fanboy.
unapologetic wire fan boy, yessir!
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Quote from: ice grillin you on December 30, 2014, 03:07:58 PM
but hes learning lots of new tidbits....like idris elba who played stringer bell is british
does he know about dominic west ?
I thought he was from Minneapolis or something?
Quote from: smeags on December 30, 2014, 03:14:40 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on December 30, 2014, 12:34:41 PM
how do you not have the dvd box set?
always wait for bluray.
when the bluray comes out next summer it will have been like 8 years between the two...its not like one year the box set came out in october and the bluray for xmas
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on December 30, 2014, 03:35:08 PM
actually the only person who has blocked me is mr havas lolol
i have like 8 followers and they all are bullshtein people or companies i dont know....i dont go on twitter to post i go on to read other people
lol it's all good...I tried to include ya on a tweet once and realized it.
I'm gonna tweet more wire characters tonight and copy sunny
Noooooo Kima just dropped a "salt of the earth..."
Quote from: SD on December 29, 2014, 10:00:49 PM
"damn you didn't even wait to get the motherfarger in the house"
brillant back story scene on Chris
This was one of my favorite lines. Snoop was so hilarious
You earnt that bump like a muhfarga man keep that shtein
as hard as snoop is the look on her face when chris is beating bug's pops is priceless....shes even like I cant believe what this cat is doing
Good point.
I hate Narese...she's a bitch and a half
Quote from: smeags on December 30, 2014, 10:14:38 AM
is hbo also making the series available via OnDemand ? my damn dvr ran out of space !
have you ever heard of hbogo? seriously. like youre a human person with internet access and everything and whatever i cant help you.
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on December 30, 2014, 10:37:45 PM
Good point.
I hate Narese...she's a bitch and a half
she is unreal.....gorgeous chocolate lady....married to a white dude. im just....
lester voicing the rose bowl intro!!
http://www.barstoolsports.com/m/iowa/super-page/clay-davis-welcomes-you-into-2015/?utm_campaign=socialflow&utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=socialflow
Did not know he was from Philly
http://mobile.philly.com/entertainment/?wss=/philly/entertainment&id=288208341
farg you tommy
http://grantland.com/features/david-simon-show-me-a-hero-hbo-the-wire-treme/
yo
He's salty as farg
I think he hates the wire now
hes the best....
QuoteBut "the thing we're really trying to farging do is tell a story that's actually worth telling. And not sustain a franchise. That's the problem. Certain things sustain franchises and certain things never can. Trombone players? Very hard to sustain a franchise. Gangsters? You can go for years without ever having anything to say. March them on TV and put a bullet in someone's head."
In Hero, Simon jokes, there are no dragons, no vampires, no gangsters, no porn. Why is HBO interested in this? he asks himself. But he knows what draws him toward it.
"You know what I love?" he says. "I love farging TV that's not supposed to be on TV."
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on January 12, 2015, 11:49:46 PM
Did not know he was from Philly
http://mobile.philly.com/entertainment/?wss=/philly/entertainment&id=288208341
he's in a few PA lottery commercials. it makes me sad
Better than that farging groundhog I guess
ugh
http://youtu.be/ZX_32-xzJOQ
the wire is over
it has been killed
the end
Wtf did I just watch
Mcnulty's Baltimore accent is better than his English accent
Where the farg is Wallace?
http://www.philly.com/philly/entertainment/20150316_Prince_statue_is_merely_standing_in_the_rain.html
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1556507886/isiah-whitlock-jr-talking-bobblehead
Sheeeeee-it! whenever you need to hear it, from a bobblehead! Whitlock backing the gag.
http://variety.com/2015/film/news/star-trek-3-idris-elba-villain-cast-1201459368/
Strrrrrrrriiiiiiinnnnnnnggggggerrrrrrrrrrr!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xWY79JCfhjw&feature=youtu.be
not lying i watched then jerked off (to regular porn) but it got my meatcicle in the mood
That was pretty awesome. Not you jerking your gherkin but the video.
I'm shocked that Simon didn't yell at him for bringing the wire up. Or asking him if he watched it while it was on tv or on DVD?!
https://twitter.com/justin_fenton/status/592887036845137920
The store where Omar got popped is burning
stringer broke the UK land speed record in a bentley. what a farging man.
McNulty didn't pull him over?
http://wiredup.splashthat.com/
I finally watched almost the entire series but had to stop with only a few episodes left because my dog wouldn't quit barking at the teevee (racist MA bitch?). I bet it ended as stupidly as the entire series progressed.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/entertainment/theater_dance/cast-members-from-the-wire-give-back-to-baltimore/2015/07/14/df060ee2-2a5e-11e5-bd33-395c05608059_story.html?hpid=z15
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CKRknaiUMAAOEFt.jpg)
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CKSVl6bWoAAeMeF.jpg)
i tried to get tickets to that last week but they were gone in like 15 seconds
Bunk plays a reoccurring role on Suits, and they've had characters on the show drop a "sheeeeeeit" on more than one occasion, direct Wire references as well as other shows.
farg i cant wait for sunday and show me a hero
david simon
true story
fascinating subject
undoubtedly = magic
and maybe the best part is reading all the reviews of it that usually lead off with how th wire is the best show ever made
i'm up to ep 7. chalky white is all sad because his boyfriend got got.
Quote from: ice grillin you on August 13, 2015, 08:58:52 AM
farg i cant wait for sunday and show me a hero
david simon
true story
fascinating subject
undoubtedly = magic
and maybe the best part is reading all the reviews of it that usually lead off with how th wire is the best show ever made
http://grantland.com/hollywood-prospectus/show-me-a-comeback-david-simons-return-to-form-on-hbo/?ex_cid=story-twitter
voila!
is it even possible that this exists in the real world?
When you tout a TV miniseries with the names David Simon and Paul Haggis alongside such keywords as "public housing," "racial tension," "the late '80s," "Yonkers" and throw in what sounds to be most of Bruce Springsteen's back catalogue
season 1 was really good. just started season 2 & it's just okay so far. theme song got worse...and i don't really care about anything going on at the docks. hopefully it gets better.
Quote from: hunt on September 03, 2015, 08:37:02 AM
season 1 was really good. just started season 2 & it's just okay so far. theme song got worse...and i don't really care about anything going on at the docks. hopefully it gets better.
somebody dies.
Quote from: hunt on September 03, 2015, 08:37:02 AM
season 1 was really good. just started season 2 & it's just okay so far. theme song got worse...and i don't really care about anything going on at the docks. hopefully it gets better.
frank sobotka will eat your young
I liked season 2 quite a bit.
i'm only 2 eps in...so maybe it picks up.
michael scott's gf, pornstache, & sheriff andy are in season 2 so far.
Quote from: hunt on September 03, 2015, 09:31:31 AM
i'm only 2 eps in...so maybe it picks up.
michael scott's gf, pornstache, & sheriff andy are in season 2 so far.
Had the same thoughts the first few episodes of season 2. It gets much better and is without a doubt the most underrated season of the Wire. Knowing you hunt you'll love Ziggy.
no doubt hunt will have a ziggy avatar soon enough.
idk...that guy has been f'ing annoying so far. :-D
That's part of his charm. Give it time.
Quote from: hunt on September 03, 2015, 10:16:54 AM
that guy has been f'ing annoying so far.
thats pretty much the point and why the performance was so farging good
the job done by the three sobotka actors (include louie sobotka if you want) is off the charts
Season 2 came off weak after the 1st watch. 2nd time through I had a much greater appreciation for what was going on and it's on par with the entire series.
Season 2 is probably my favorite of the series. Not really sure why. Seasons 3 and 4 might be a little better but for some reason I'm always liking 2
four is retarded but two is def the second best imo
Season two was a ballsy move. Simon was daring his audience to stick with him by shifting--or seeming to shift--away from the the story that carried the first season. From the ghetto to the docks risked turning off a lot of viewers, and it probably did, initially. Folks who stuck were rewarded mightily. It's a fantastic season.
By the time it's over, you get that Simon et al. are telling a bigger story and each of these seasons is as much a part of the story as any other, just as relevant, etc.
Quote from: Diomedes on September 03, 2015, 08:57:27 PM
Season two was a ballsy move. Simon was daring his audience to stick with him by shifting--or seeming to shift--away from the the story that carried the first season. From the ghetto to the docks risked turning off a lot of viewers, and it probably did, initially. Folks who stuck were rewarded mightily. It's a fantastic season.
By the time it's over, you get that Simon et al. are telling a bigger story and each of these seasons is as much a part of the story as any other, just as relevant, etc.
Pretty much. I didn't see a single episode when the show was broadcasting but ended up doing a marathon and watching all 5 seasons in about 2 weeks. Then I watched the whole thing again, but at a slower pace.
2nd time through the series, season 2 by far had more "blank spots" than any other season.....like there would be 10-15 minute stretches that were completely foreign to me I assume that's because I was kind of tuning it out because it was so different from season 1, but holy shtein that season was phenomenal the 2nd time through.
Quote from: Diomedes on September 03, 2015, 08:57:27 PM
Season two was a ballsy move. Simon was daring his audience to stick with him by shifting--or seeming to shift--away from the the story that carried the first season. From the ghetto to the docks risked turning off a lot of viewers, and it probably did, initially. Folks who stuck were rewarded mightily. It's a fantastic season.
By the time it's over, you get that Simon et al. are telling a bigger story and each of these seasons is as much a part of the story as any other, just as relevant, etc.
Yep - it was him telling his story and he was gonna do it his way. I enjoyed s2 quite a bit.
Got a chuckle.
https://www.facebook.com/TheWire/videos/vb.5991693871/10153658577228872/?type=2&theater
Haha
still plowing through season 2. method man is kinda annoying...i could do w/o him. ziggy just shot that warehouse dude, so i'm guessing things really pick up from here.
and when do i get to see michael scott's gf get nekkid ???
Quote from: hunt on September 24, 2015, 08:15:13 AM
still plowing through season 2. method man is kinda annoying...i could do w/o him. ziggy just shot that warehouse dude, so i'm guessing things really pick up from here.
and when do i get to see michael scott's gf get nekkid ???
A lot of characters in the Wire like Cheese are there to illicit that response from the viewers. Just an FYI he gets more annoying as the seasons go on. But there's a decent pay off with his character at the end of the series.
i meant annoying because it's method man playing him. i've seen him play that same role in a million things so it's old for me. :boo
and "seasons? i was hoping he'd only be around a few eps. :-[
i love his character but i agree the casting was not the best choice...especially for a show that was known for casting almost completly unknowns....
but hes really only in s5...maybe only a couple of eps each in 2-4
yeah, meth isn't a show ruiner for me...just distracting.
i figured all the black people would be tough enough for you to overcome
well, you're an idiot, so.........
Quote from: hunt on September 24, 2015, 09:47:09 AM
well, you're an idiot, so.........
he's a white jewish kid from the suburbs who race baits on the internet. im sure he's not a bigot in real life.
Quote from: hunt on September 24, 2015, 08:59:56 AM
i meant annoying because it's method man playing him. i've seen him play that same role in a million things so it's old for me. :boo
and "seasons? i was hoping he'd only be around a few eps. :-[
Lucky for me I guess because I haven't seen him in anything else and wasn't aware he had so many acting roles until I looked up his imbd page.
he was in this horrible adam sandler movie called the cobbler
essentially adam sandler cobbles peoples shoes, puts them on, and turns into them
when he does it to method man, he gets the confidence to be a criminal.
later in the movie he almost rapes a chick
then he kills someone (possibly method man, i cant remember) as a trans person with a giant heel.
actually on second thought this movie was amazing
You deserve to be forever mocked for having watched that movie assuming you didn't make the plot up
how high is the shtein
plus he was in wu tang for a billion years before he acted...thats probably what hunt is referring to
i watched every episode of entourage and ballers...my patience level for impossibly bad movies/tv is insanely high. i actually enjoy it.
is ballers that bad ? I was actually thinking of checking it out.
Quote from: MDS on September 24, 2015, 10:21:37 AM
he was in this horrible adam sandler movie called the cobbler
essentially adam sandler cobbles peoples shoes, puts them on, and turns into them
when he does it to method man, he gets the confidence to be a criminal.
later in the movie he almost rapes a chick
then he kills someone (possibly method man, i cant remember) as a trans person with a giant heel.
actually on second thought this movie was amazing
i have no idea why or when but i just got deja vu reading this and have definitely seen it. he and steve buscemi drive away through a secret underground tunnel at the end. and yes it was amazing.
Quote from: smeags on September 24, 2015, 10:32:58 AM
is ballers that bad ? I was actually thinking of checking it out.
I saw 1 episode and thought it was worse than Playmakers.
Quote from: smeags on September 24, 2015, 10:32:58 AM
is ballers that bad ? I was actually thinking of checking it out.
It's horrible but I watched it anyway. The Rocks charm is endearing.
i tried watching 2 of them but felt like i would actually have more fun doing nothing.
Quote from: SD on September 24, 2015, 10:23:17 AM
You deserve to be forever mocked for having watched that movie assuming you didn't make the plot up
There is no scenario you can come up with that isn't at least a plausible Adam Sandler movie.
Quote from: phattymatty on September 24, 2015, 10:41:32 AM
i have no idea why or when but i just got deja vu reading this and have definitely seen it. he and steve buscemi drive away through a secret underground tunnel at the end. and yes it was amazing.
i think he was dustin hoffman at that point, but yes.
the amount of room he had under this shabby store on the lower east side was the most ridiculous thing in the movie.
Quote from: smeags on September 24, 2015, 10:32:58 AM
is ballers that bad ? I was actually thinking of checking it out.
if you liked entourage, which you probably did, youll love this.
I liked Ballers
Thought this was pretty cool, there's a Stringer and a Mcnulty version too
https://displate.com/displate/117778/movies-&-tv-omar-little-the-wire-hbo-jimmy-mcnulty-stringer-bell-gangster-black-white-badass-certified-baltimore
frank! :-\
Quote from: smeags on September 29, 2015, 08:41:26 AM
Quote from: hunt on September 29, 2015, 08:23:58 AM
frank! :-\
total surprise ending right ?
didn't see the ending yet...just saw frank pulled from the water but haven't finished that ep yet. i'm guessing nick & ziggy flip on the greek...but don't tell me! :paranoid
it sucked watching frank walk to that meeting under the bridge knowing he was going to die.
just finished the ep (and season 2) on lunch...another case of nailing some of the "middle mgmt" types while the big fish get away. decent season...not as good as 1, imo.
omar needs to tell bow tie that stringer gave him the bogus info...although it seemed like he figured it out himself.
pornstache did one hell of an acting job in season 2...hopefully he's back at some point.
on to season 3 in the next day or so. :yay
3 1/2 eps into season 3 & there's not much going on so far. basically just showing how the police are a bunch of aholes who drink, cheat, only care about personal gain, etc.
the omar stuff is interesting but hopefully the rest picks up.
Season 3 is my favorite season, give it time. Hamsterdam.
stringer just got got :o
I had such farging hopes for us.
short list of best eps
10/10
to this day watching the rooftop scene is one of the most emotional things I've ever gone thru in my life
def a great scene but damn dude ...
Quote from: ice grillin you on October 21, 2015, 04:06:47 PM
short list of best eps
10/10
to this day watching the rooftop scene is one of the most emotional things I've ever gone thru in my life
sure you're not thinking about the same scene from new jack city 15 years earlier? am i my brother's keeper? 8)
actually i thinking about the scene in juice....the omar epps/tupac rooftop rumble...2 fargin scrawny wimps....tupac is bitching "dont let me fall Q boo hoo"....so corny
lots of gang related drama on rooftops.
anyway, looking forward to starting season 4. with stringer & avon gone, i'm assuming it goes in an entirely new direction, much like season 2 switching to the docks...with some mayor stuff thrown in as well.
I'm pretty sure you're thinking of the climactic fight scene from Highlander.
Quote from: hunt on October 23, 2015, 11:53:20 AM
anyway, looking forward to starting season 4. with stringer & avon gone, i'm assuming it goes in an entirely new direction, much like season 2 switching to the docks...with some mayor stuff thrown in as well.
I think that's when they start the sting operation on the gay porn video industry.
dan patrick with the "omar comin" during the nfl highlites
halfway through the season 4 finale and bodie :-\ i'll finish the ep on lunch today.
Quote from: hunt on November 18, 2015, 09:08:06 AM
halfway through the season 4 finale and bodie :-\ i'll finish the ep on lunch today.
Gonna give you some good advice, skip season 5. I know you're now hooked and thinking man I gotta see how they finish this up. If you're that interested watch the season 5 ending montage and call it a day.
The newspaper angle in S5 is a little whack, but by no means should you skip it.
not much happened in the 2nd half of the season 4 finale...once bodie got killed, that was about it.
i'll def watch all the seasons.
Quote from: Sgt PSN on November 18, 2015, 12:27:54 PM
The newspaper angle in S5 is a little whack, but by no means should you skip it.
I love the Wire, think I've watched the series 5 times through. I've tried so hard to like season 5, but I just can't. Clay Davis and the ending montage is money. I guess the Omar/Michael scenes are decent too.
Agreed. But skipping the entire season would be like not going to a party full of porn stars because one of them is bringing her fat ugly sister.
Especially because the plump sister is the only one youd have a chance with.
Quote from: Sgt PSN on November 18, 2015, 12:27:54 PM
The newspaper angle in S5 is a little whack, but by no means should you skip it.
exactly
wire 5 > any season of any other show ever made
but it was a casualty of the shows overall greatness
Ummm no. :-D
Quote from: smeags on November 18, 2015, 01:27:25 PM
Especially because the plump sister is the only one youd have a chance with.
lol
s5 is below the other 4 but its underrated
the serial killer story is just silly, but you really have to pay attention to the little moments. its prop joe dying and that getting a small write up. the real stories arent being covered or told because the industry swallowed itself whole and instead goes crazy over sensationalized nonsense like the homeless serial killer.
You know he hasn't watched it yet, right?
Nobody reads his posts anyway, don't worry.
the story lines of season 5 are poor but just watching another season of that cast is worth it alone
like sarge said the serial killer stuff is bad for the wire.....but its still better than say s1 true detective...my biggest problem with s5 is the farging actor who plays templeton....for a show that is so legendary for its picture perffect casting i dont get how they farged that up so bad...put a legit actor in that role and i could even overlook the serial killer storyline
Quote from: Sgt PSN on November 19, 2015, 12:38:21 AM
You know he hasn't watched it yet, right?
rosebud is his sled
Little Melvin died today
simon posted these earlier....really cool
http://s3.documentcloud.org/documents/2638846/Easy-Money-Anatomy-of-a-Drug-Empire.pdf
a good churchman is always up in everyones shtein
still struggling my way through season 5...what a trainwreck. just saw omar get got this morning but still have to finish the rest of that ep. killing off the most entertaining character...how fitting for a pos season. :boo
They killed off Lester Freamon?
that's fair. lester is a great character too.
i watched john wick last week and the actor who plays lester was in it...daniels was in it too...and al swearengen. :yay
Speaking old Al...the Brits seem to get a lot of the work these days. Maybe they're not the prima donnas that so many of the Hollywood people are.
finished the final ep this morning. season 5 really was a train-wreck. serial killer stuff was laughably bad...and i didn't care about the newspaper angle one bit. but still a great show overall.
took me 4 months to get through the 5 seasons...now i need to find a new show to watch.
4months ? WTF, man.
is that a lot? :paranoid
i only have time to watch while i'm eating breakfast before work...so i get in 30-45 min at a time.
Nah all good man, I just noticed Amazon has the wire, sopranos, rome and deadwood. Yeah I'm gonna binge those.
yeah, those are all good. i'm looking for something i haven't seen yet. maybe i'll give homeland a shot.
Quote from: hunt on December 09, 2015, 08:21:45 AM
finished the final ep this morning. season 5 really was a train-wreck. serial killer stuff was laughably bad...and i didn't care about the newspaper angle one bit. but still a great show overall.
took me 4 months to get through the 5 seasons...now i need to find a new show to watch.
Part of me wishes I never watched season 5.
Quote from: hunt on December 09, 2015, 09:24:52 AM
yeah, those are all good. i'm looking for something i haven't seen yet. maybe i'll give homeland a shot.
homeland is racist right wing propaganda
:o
Quote from: ice grillin you on December 09, 2015, 09:37:43 AM
Quote from: hunt on December 09, 2015, 09:24:52 AM
yeah, those are all good. i'm looking for something i haven't seen yet. maybe i'll give homeland a shot.
homeland is racist right wing propaganda
that is incredibly accurate?
Quote from: Susquehanna Birder on December 04, 2015, 09:27:22 AM
They killed off Lester Freamon?
nope
he just did the college football playoff opening
http://www.indiewire.com/article/watch-the-wire-for-kids-not-quite-but-this-sleek-animated-intro-presents-a-whole-new-game-20160106
Pretty good. Also pretty funny that whoever wrote that up still thinks that if something's animated, that means it's for kids.
S1 E1 cued up
It's time for another round
I wasn't a real fan of the commercial, but it was cute to see the Sobotkas together in a Prius ad last night.
I didn't know that commercial existed till just now
prezbo
http://gawker.com/black-maryland-cop-killed-by-fellow-officer-who-thought-1765358994
the ole "what if a good guy with a gun tries to stop a bad guy with a gun but the good guy mistakes him for another bad guy" scenario
Watching The Replacements and noticed Valcheck is the referee in the first game they played
That movie infuriates me so much. I also can't not watch it if I come across it.
http://heymancenter.org/events/the-wire-conference/
Just saw mcnutty in the new clooney movie trailer
who fargin' cares
we can put this thread to sleep now thanks
Lol
Quote from: Diomedes on April 24, 2016, 07:13:03 AM
who fargin' cares
we can put this thread to sleep now thanks
No. Deal with it
Quote from: Diomedes on April 24, 2016, 07:13:03 AM
who fargin' cares
we can put this thread to sleep now thanks
NEVER
wire4eva
GOAT
farg dragons
jonathan abrams next book is going to be an oral history of the wire
just about to post that
i feel like ive heard every possible story on that show but i will devour that shtein regardless
gus triandos
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ChzV5GDXIAASXqZ.jpg)
http://www.nydailynews.com/entertainment/wendell-pierce-arrested-allegedly-attacking-sanders-fan-article-1.2637752
Damn Bunk
"You happy now, bitch?"
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Citx-QIWEAARexZ.jpg)
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/going-out-guide/wp/2016/07/14/after-the-wire-tray-chaney-is-keeping-it-really-real/?postshare=9261468527769484&tid=ss_tw
watching shaft for the first time and kima be farging Samuel l jax
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CvIaeZfXEAAxjx3.jpg:large)
Rewatching again - on s4.
I appreciate s2 more each time I watch it. Probably second best of the five
https://www.si.com/nba/2017/04/17/the-wire-oral-history-baltimore-basketball-nba
http://whereswallace.theringer.com/
Found him. No idea why I played it. I'll blame the boring conference call.
im stuck....i literally have canvased every single face like four times and cant find pryzbo
Trying to say all white people look alike? You farging racist.
Quote from: ice grillin you on May 31, 2017, 11:44:27 AM
im stuck....i literally have canvased every single face like four times and cant find pryzbo
Cop car on the left.
ringer has a boner for the wire and im not complaining
https://theringer.com/the-wire-15th-anniversary-hbo-season-4-79e80c01f167
when i read that i had to laugh again at what pathetic butthurt douchebags the emmy voters were during that time
QuoteThe series infamously never won an Emmy, but now it's being used as a teaching tool in classrooms across the country.
http://www.complex.com/style/2014/04/best-durag-moments-on-the-wire/pilot
Quote from: ice grillin you on June 02, 2017, 12:52:01 PM
http://www.complex.com/style/2014/04/best-durag-moments-on-the-wire/pilot
List was about 100x funnier than I expected it to be. That guy can write.
hello old friend its been a long time
15 year anniversary rewatch begins this week after the finals
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DBci6YHXUAAwfP8.jpg)
Snot Boogie? He like the name?
life just be that way i guess
https://medium.com/p/the-wire-15th-anniversary-hbo-season-4-79e80c01f167
hit and miss shea serrano did a hit and miss piece on wire charcters -- where are they now
https://theringer.com/wire-hbo-characters-where-are-they-now-b9ee61c34aa8
stupid wire season personality quiz
https://theringer.com/the-wire-personality-quiz-f01027e14781
i got season 3
Three for me too
same
s2 is the best tho
Objectively (if that's possible in this thread), how does the show fare on rewatch? I watched it once, and was thinking of watching it again. More importantly, I was thinking of trying to talk my wife into watching it-- but I wondered if it held up or would seem dated to a first-time viewer at this point. I'd think it would hold up pretty well, other than older cell technology, etc.
the only thing that was dated about it was how the show looked in terms of the definition of the picture but they solved that a few years ago when they re mastered it in HD
things like communicative technology would not be dated to your wife because she lived thru those times....that might only apply to a 20 year old who literally doesnt know what a pager is
Quote from: Zanshin on June 06, 2017, 08:21:10 AM
Objectively (if that's possible in this thread), how does the show fare on rewatch? I watched it once, and was thinking of watching it again. More importantly, I was thinking of trying to talk my wife into watching it-- but I wondered if it held up or would seem dated to a first-time viewer at this point. I'd think it would hold up pretty well, other than older cell technology, etc.
I have re-watched it several times and on each re-watch I pick up new little things I missed previously or if it has been awhile I've forgotten some things and it holds my attention well.
The older technology isn't really an issue I don't believe because its only 15 years ago. I guess if you can watch an older black and white movie or even some 70-80's shows and not be bothered by the technology for those time periods then it'll be fine.
thought it was mandatory to re-watch the series at least once a year.
i dont know about mandatory but ive done it once a year sometimes twice since its gone off the air.....just started another one yesterday for the 15th year anniversary....its replay value is off the charts....no matter how many times i watch it i am so blown away bu how god damn good the writing is...almost every farging word is gold
also started 'the keepers' yesterday....got thru the first two eps...outstanding so far especially for me cause it all takes place between 10 and 20 minutes from where i live now
The Wire on re-watch is kind of better than the 1st time through. Sure, the suspense factor is gone because you know how it plays out, but there are so many subtleties that you pick up going through again that you'd never notice the 1st time.
Example: In S1, like near the very beginning, a bunch of the cops are in the office talking about what duty they would hate. McNulty says boat duty. Was something that I didn't catch the 1st time. It probably just seemed like unimportant filler dialog that wasn't worth retaining. 2nd time I watched I got a nice chuckle out of it.
There's a million little things like that that make it worth rewatching. I've seen it 3x total and I always pick up some new little detail or connection here and there.
One thing I paid more attention to when I rewatched it was the brilliant sound design on the series. Stuff like Brianna's clattering jewelry or the ice in Stringer's drinks... when they choose to play sirens or train sounds. No one's gonna pay a whole lot of attention to those things on a first watch but everything there was done intentionally.
Yup. It's all the subtleties that allow it to hold up so well. That's what really separates it from just about any other show, imo.
Quote from: Sgt PSN on June 06, 2017, 02:42:04 PM
Example: In S1, like near the very beginning, a bunch of the cops are in the office talking about what duty they would hate. McNulty says boat duty. Was something that I didn't catch the 1st time. It probably just seemed like unimportant filler dialog that wasn't worth retaining. 2nd time I watched I got a nice chuckle out of it.
thats about as blatant an example there is of what you are correctly talking about...i mean the boat stuff all happens in the same season...its pretty hard to miss the first time around a fairly long conversation that ends up with landsman waving cash and betting mcnutty ends up on the boat and then the last scene of the season has him on the boat....
theres other really crazy hidden shtein that is separated by multiple seasons that took me numerous re watches to get
Yeah, I didn't want to give away any of the real shtein because it would kind of spoil it. That's the beauty of the show though...there are actual spoiler alerts for the rewatch.
Like I said, I've watched it 3 times and I always pick up a bunch of shtein that I didn't catch before. I know you've watched it more than I have so there are probably things that you've seen and if you posted them here it would totally ruin it for me.
yeah I feel another watch coming on.
I still haven't seen the last two or three episodes because my racist bitch wouldn't quit barking at the tv
Started it up again last night on HBO Go. They did a great job on the remastering.
in david simon's new show:
frank sobatka
slim
levy
cheese
d'angelo
chris
kima's girl
Quote from: MDS on June 09, 2017, 09:27:31 AM
in david simon's new show:
frank sobatka
slim
levy
cheese
d'angelo
chris
kima's girl
this is so stupid....for anyone that is a huge fan of the wire most or all of those people will always be their character in the wire....unless hes doing the wire redux why would you have all them in a show together
levy has been in enough things....so has chris bauer and even d'angelo
slim and cheese i get. kima's girl is a non factor.
I saw D playing a cop in the trailer too. Role reversal.
i dont care if chris bauer (or deangelo) has been in a 1000 things since...he is frank sobotka period....and if hes been in a thousand 999 of them no one could name off the top of their head
its not like any of them are tom cruise where they have done a million huge movies where one doesnt stand out far above the rest and you could reel off so many good ones
the only one that doesnt fit is cheese and thats because he will always be method man in wu tang which is why originally casting him in the wire was a big mistake
Probably worth noting that not everyone eats and breathes The Wire, and it'll be fine.
Quote from: Zanshin on June 09, 2017, 03:37:38 PM
Probably worth noting that not everyone eats and breathes The Wire, and it'll be fine.
into the pit with you !
There is literally an entire generation of young people entering adulthood right now who barely even know The Wire exists, much less what it's about or who's in it.
And while it's weird to me and I see those actors as their Wire characters what are they supposed to do - not be on other shows?
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on June 09, 2017, 08:19:23 PM
And while it's weird to me and I see those actors as their Wire characters what are they supposed to do - not be on other shows?
this is so not the point that its almost embarrassing
I like making you feel this way.
Quote from: Sgt PSN on June 09, 2017, 07:50:59 PM
There is literally an entire generation of young people entering adulthood right now who barely even know The Wire exists, much less what it's about or who's in it.
Most of the people who were adults while the show was on barely know the Wire exists.
that might mean something if it wasnt for the fact that the the only reason anyone of any age would watch a david simon show is because of the wire
is everyone on drugs tonight?
I am on "drugs" tonight. Yes.
spider bags
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hey that's the guy from the affair
Mcnutty looks creepy with the porn stache
Quote from: SD on June 14, 2017, 07:21:34 AM
Mcnutty looks like a middle school gym teacher with the porn stache
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pGomupAJBxo
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igy head explosion
i dont get it
yes you do
no I really don't
that's the iron throne from game of thrones that omar is sitting on.
omar be king of kings.
I honestly was going to guess lord of the rings....partial credit?
Quote from: ice grillin you on July 27, 2017, 09:33:25 AM
I honestly was going to guess lord of the rings....partial credit?
No
'The Wire'-themed Quizzo will be hosted by actor from the show
'The Wire' may have ended in 2008 but it's still widely considered one of the greatest TV shows of all time
Fans of the series can put their knowledge to the test at Quizzo hosted by Brian Anthony Wilson, who played detective Vernon Holley on "The Wire." Wilson is a Philly native.
The trivia game will take place at 8 p.m. on Monday, Aug. 7, at Fairmount's London Grill.
During Quizzo, there will be Baltimore-themed food & drink specials for competitors.
Select beers will be $4 and there will be Baltimore Orange Crush drinks, which are made with orange vodka, vanilla vodka and orange juice, for $5.
The food specials include Baltimore-style crab cakes, a crab cake sandwich and french fries seasoned in Old Bay.
I need one of those Orange Crush drinks.
Sounds like a good tailgate item
i would 100% be going to that if i was in town
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on August 04, 2017, 09:42:14 AM
I need one of those Orange Crush drinks.
Sounds like a good tailgate item
i guess they havent made it to the great state of texas yet but they are all over the place now
they are particularly huge around me as they were invented on the maryland eastern shore
Yeah can't say I have seen it here otherwise I'd be IN on them every time I go out
fyi a real one is with orange vodka triple sec and orange juice....not vanilla vodka like at that wire johnson....thats a creamsicle or some shtein
i dont like em cause you need like 200 to catch a buzz...never seen a strong pour in one of them and flavored vodka is only 70%
22 year old girls have been pounding orange crushes at dewey beach for about 15 years now.
http://www.phillyvoice.com/philly-quizzo-team-scores-flawless-victory-wire-showdown/amp/
Season 1 marathon on HBO today
Re-watching the seasons out of order. Started with 1, now on 3, 2 next, then ending with 4.
I've always been conflicted on motivation for one of the biggest scenes in the show. Why does Stringer tell Avon he had D killed. Did he think the trail would lead back to him? Or was it ego driven.
his manhood was questioned
he tried to make it was a businessman and got taken to the cleaners....the drug game was boring him...avon said he was too dumb to make it in the real world and too weak to make in the game...you ever snatch a life?
and then, perhaps the best scene in the show.
I think it was a combo of both. You see him stressed the farg out prior to that scene, smoking cigarettes, getting mad at Donette for talking to Mcnulty. My interpretation is he shows up to tell Avon, then Avon starts questioning his manhood, that's when his ego kicks in and he goes full tilt. But the original motivation was to tell him because he thought it was going to lead back to him. That was tearing him apart.
i believe earlier in that scene he ordered slim to clip clay davis...then avon comes in and is like dude you serious. he was desperate, angry, defeated and hurt. his manhood and his very being were questioned. a true moment of weakness. not to mention his and avon's relationship had been crumbling for a few years now.
god damnit this show was good.
Quote from: MDS on September 15, 2017, 11:57:55 AM
i believe earlier in that scene he ordered slim to clip clay davis...then avon comes in and is like dude you serious. he was desperate, angry, defeated and hurt. his manhood and his very being were questioned. a true moment of weakness. not to mention his and avon's relationship had been crumbling for a few years now.
god damnit this show was good.
Yeah they were way different at heart and it eventually caused the split. You're right when he told Slim to hit Clay Davis he was cracking. And Avon, rather than doing what String was doing and just stacking the cash and going as legit as possible with an exit in mind, had the street and the game too ingrained in him.
Quote from: MDS on September 15, 2017, 11:57:55 AM
i believe earlier in that scene he ordered slim to clip clay davis...then avon comes in and is like dude you serious. he was desperate, angry, defeated and hurt. his manhood and his very being were questioned. a true moment of weakness. not to mention his and avon's relationship had been crumbling for a few years now.
god damnit this show was good.
That scene was a few episodes prior, but that was a big cause of the rift. Stringer wanted to go away from the street stuff and become a businessman, the co-op wanted peace, Marlo was even willing to stop the war and get in on the co-op as long as he could keep his corners, but Avon wasn't having any of that, he wanted his corners back. Avon was the anomaly that was messing everything up. Stringer was doing the right thing, he didn't have it in him to take out Avon, he even talks to Bunny about lessening his sentence once they busted up their war arsenal. Stringer was at his wits end and the only way to make it all work was to get Avon out of the picture without his name being mentioned. He ratted on Avon for his own greed but it was still the right thing to do for the good of business and to stop the war. Mcnulty has a conversation with Bunny at the end saying he put Stringers name on the arrest warrant, Bunny says you always did cut corners. Stringer wasn't supposed to be mentioned, but since he was dead, it didn't matter.
Herc: You got to promise you don't say shtein about this.
Carver: You saw him, what did you say?
Herc: I said gee Mr. Mayor you got a nice hard dick there
Carver: Laughs
Herc: I'm farged in the ass with a pineapple. They're gonna throw me on a boat like they did Mcnulty
I'm sure this was posted already, but it's the first time I've seen it:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HP7By1cZtzE
I got Jr to start watching this. needless to say 3 episodes in and he's hooked.
I'm not starting another season again until I have more time. I watch one episode, I get hooked and it takes over my life.
i would love to watch it with someone who has never seen it
maurie levy as a cop on the duece is farging weird
Still my favorite Levy scene and one of the greatest scenes on the show
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WFYv6sixE0g
scringer ? :paranoid
my favorite levy scenes are when hes meeting with any mix of perlman the feds and especially mcnutty....the best is probably when hes chomping on the macadamia nuts...its more a mcnulty scene than a levy scene but holy shtein is it good
Quote from: ice grillin you on October 05, 2017, 11:17:29 AM
the best is probably when hes chomping on the macadamia nuts...its more a mcnulty scene than a levy scene but holy shtein is it good
I think of that as the scene where McNulty has the least control over his British accent.
might or might not get this book
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im getting this book
just started the new wire book...so far so great
10 years ago today the finale aired
youre all old
10 years ago today I still hasn't seen a single minute of it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4QEHlxICU3I
Quote from: Sgt PSN on March 09, 2018, 11:44:42 PM
10 years ago today I still hasn't seen a single minute of it.
i know youre trying to troll or do some kind of shtick but youre in an amazing envious position....you have the greatest piece of content in front of you ready to be consumed.
No dumbass, I've already watched it like 3x. But I never saw it during it's actual run.
oh sorry i didnt know your history of watching a tv show...sincere apologies
Someone should start a thread about what tv shows everyone's watching so that this never happens again.
If only there were some way to find out what people have previously said on this forum.
You can dig up a Jay hot take from 2006 but can't look back 4 pages in this thread.
simon and burns are back together for this
https://variety.com/2018/tv/news/david-simon-plot-against-america-hbo-1203023114/
they had major beef by the end of the wire (burns really kinda bailed during the middle of s5) and didnt even do that much together on generation kill...so this is their first major collaboration since the flawless s4
david simon on twitter today...
QuotePhilly almost played for Baltimore when Marty O'Malley threatened to toss HBO out of Baltimore between seasons of The Wire.
story has been out there
o'malley thought that by blocking the filming, theyd make it about some place else. simon told him otherwise. so he gave in and wound up on the show in s4.
its in all the books
but he tweeted it today
https://twitter.com/aodespair/status/1135218129225887745 21
pro tip yo
if you remove the stuff after the question mark, :CF will display the tweet right there in your post
if you don't, it won't, and no one here is clicking on a twitter link just because you of all people posted it
kima on that stuff
https://www.tmz.com/2019/07/21/sonja-sohn-arrested-cocaine-possession-the-wire-chi/
that's sad
It's sad that she got arrested. Drug laws are idiotic and racist as farg.
sevino pulled a bodie
https://www.baltimoresun.com/news/crime/bs-md-ci-cr-prisoner-escapes-from-hospital-20190914-xqczoq5ljvf27m6v3rs73okmbu-story.html
Interesting story. Believable too.
Hope Levy can get him outta the jam
He gets these every once in awhile and it cracks me up
https://twitter.com/aodespair/status/1173718972103090177 21
let's farging gooooooo....
https://twitter.com/billsimmons/status/1242864890886254592 21
https://www.vanityfair.com/hollywood/2020/03/coronavirus-the-wire-hbo
GOAT
https://www.vanityfair.com/hollywood/2020/03/coronavirus-the-wire-hbo
Looks familiar
pod starting tomorrow
only listened to the first episode but this podcast is brutally bad
the two people are terrible at podcasting...almost to the point of calling it unprofessional
like they just pulled two random people off twitter who love the show but dont know how to do a podcast in an entertaining or listenable way
im not looking for anything i didnt know about the show....if youve read all the books and have as many rewatches as i did under my belt thats not going to happen but is it to much to ask for some takes that make you go hmmm...ill even take some hott takes that i disagree with but that are good debates or arguments...all these these two do is describe what we just watched with zero intelligent or interesting takes
its only one episode and hopefully its not as bad as im thinking and/or gets better....but man i was hoping for so much more...also jemelle hill needs to stop curing so much
regarding episode 1 i will go to my grave never understanding how its such a popular opinion to think the show started slow...hard to follow maybe because of the amount of characters and story lines but ep 1 is a masterpiece in how they introduced and intertwined so much together in less than an hour and did with a ridiculously good script
lol yeah i almost started rewatching just to follow along with the podcast but the 30 second trailer I listened to sounded so farging corny that I decided to pass.
im gonna do it anyway just to rewatch but im not sure how far i can get into the show without just skipping the pod and doing a straight up rewatch....maybe they start bringing in guests at some point
Quote from: ice grillin you on April 16, 2020, 08:31:58 AM
like they just pulled two random people off twitter who love the show but dont know how to do a podcast in an entertaining or listenable way
You just described 98% of ringer content. I wouldn't hold on to much hope of it getting better.
Spotify bought them out for like $200M about five minutes before all sports went dark. Hopefully some Swede got fired for that decision.
agreed i used to get into a few ringer shows and still subscribe to their nba show but most are very cringey. nba desktop that concepcion does is actually pretty good. and i'm actually starting to enjoy rusillo. simmons himself is unlistenable these days.
I got my girl watching it. She mentioned it started slow but she's into it now. We're about 4 eps in. I asked her why she felt that way and she said that it was because of what they have to do to introduce us to the players. Once they establish who's who then it gets rolling.
As for the Ringer pod - I agree. But I haven't ever been a Jemelle Hill fan. I listened for a little bit and cut it off.
i've never rewatched the wire a second time.
I do think that someone going into the series cold needs to have some trust that the first episode pieces they are seeing (other than Snot Boogie) are part of an overall story, and not just a series of vignettes to establish characters like many shows do. It takes a while for the show to flesh out the connections but it's not a slow start by any means, just demanding of the viewer's attention. Not spoonfeeding things is part of what makes the Wire so good.
Anyone who is going to like the show though will certainly be hooked by the time Omar and McNulty/Greggs have the meet in the cemetery. By that point, you need to understand the world of the show. If someone still isn't feeling it by that point, it's probably not for them.
Quote from: QB Eagles on April 16, 2020, 09:56:50 AM
Quote from: ice grillin you on April 16, 2020, 08:31:58 AM
like they just pulled two random people off twitter who love the show but dont know how to do a podcast in an entertaining or listenable way
You just described 98% of ringer content. I wouldn't hold on to much hope of it getting better.
Spotify bought them out for like $200M about five minutes before all sports went dark. Hopefully some Swede got fired for that decision.
i feel the opposite
i dont know about 98% of their content because im far from a ringer expert but almost every one of their entertainment based podcasts ive listened to have been really good to outstanding...of course the wire is the first one that has sucked....their sports stuff not so much...most of that ive heard has been awful
its very white nerdbro heavy. very specific subset. think 28 year olds making an office reference to describe how james harden isnt as good as like kobe bryant or something.
i was thinking about listening to it but ive literally read every piece of everything on the wire and seen it 1000 times. not sure theres any ground left to cover.
Cool little story thread here
https://twitter.com/aodespair/status/1344038322776240134 21
Doing another re watch while I'm laid up for awhile
Was it ever said what exactly went down in Daniels' east side days where the FBI put work in on him and where he acknowledges the east side days when talking to Marla?
Heavily implied if not outright said that he stole a bunch of seized drug money.
Quote from: QB Eagles on April 19, 2021, 11:19:58 PM
Heavily implied if not outright said that he stole a bunch of seized drug money.
If I was a cop I'd 100% do the same
Quote from: QB Eagles on April 19, 2021, 11:19:58 PM
Heavily implied if not outright said that he stole a bunch of seized drug money.
That's what I was always thinking but wondered if somehow throughout the million times I've watched it I missed something.
Which makes it funny that when Herc and Carver lost the money in their trunk Daniels was pissy about it.
you didnt miss anything...its never said...fitzhugh just says that the fbi looked at his bank records and he had way too much money in his accounts but they dont know nor can prove where or how he got it
he got pissed at herc and carver because hes clearly a changed man far removed from his runnin the east side streets days...but even more than that he has higher aspirations within the dept and he doesnt want those knuckleheads ruining and chances he has for advancement
Hollllllld up
After the umpteenth re watch I caught something I've never noticed before
Johnny Fifty from s2 is a homeless dude that McNulty asks to talk to when him and Lester are working the homeless camp under the bridge.
i think this is from the affair, which i have never seen. but hot damn its weird
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it is and the affair is fantastic
but again watch city on a hill....S2 is a Rawls showcase
bodie was 16 in s1
jd williams was 24
https://nypost.com/2021/07/19/the-wire-actor-alleges-sex-abuse-by-journalist-who-calls-contact-consensual/
last april dookie, michael, namond and randy had a zoom reunion. other people showed up...i see kenard, fruit, bernard (i cant wait to go to jail), donut (who is unrecognizable and super high), one of the dudes who shot up omar granny (like a 40 degree day!...he got fat), wazzup patrice, namond's mom the dragon lady, bodie !!
i skipped around to see people, mostly seems like a 2 hour mess but have at it
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7GViMEFVk0k&t=3912s&ab_channel=That%27sOnYoutube
i wont call it hate but the amount of criticism that S2 of the wire gets makes me more mad than most things in the world
dookie (and poot) playing cops in david simons new show about the 2015 riots....donut is an actvisit
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https://twitter.com/davidfrum/status/1434978474087829513
Just started a Wire rewatch, there's a Michael K Williams remembrance before the pilot
https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2022/01/did-david-simon-glorify-baltimores-detectives.html
Simon doing a show back in bmore...premiers April 25
https://uproxx.com/tv/david-simon-we-own-this-city-jon-bernthal/
https://twitter.com/jermzcrawford/status/1501121106555506688 21
objectively weird seeing odog and marlo as cops
landsman tho !
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9tOz3dn3vuU
Savino is a cop too
That looks good. Can't wait.
On a rewatch, just finished season 4. As far as comedy goes season 4 takes the cake. Surprising since Mcnulty's barely in it
Carver: What the hell'd you say to him?
Herc: I said, "Mr. Mayor, that's a good, strong dick you got there, and I see you know how to use it"
Namond: Yo Snoop your sister in my class
Snoop: stillupfront's mom, you high or something?
Namonds mom: why you ain't at school
Namond: ain't no school today
Namonds mom: why it one of those Jew holidays
Delonda is a walking comedy routine.
Haven't watched season 5 in forever but I'm dug in so starting once March madness settles down
https://twitter.com/IamJulito/status/1504990893178249223
bay old and namon fat
Season 5 was really subpar but they stuck the landing with the finale montage.
New We own this city trailer
https://youtu.be/Ig9BcW7gXvE
We own this city - Solid debut, foundation laying episode
Poot/Marlo as cops is gonna take some getting used to. Slim playing a middle aged dad feels off. Perfect casting Bernthal for the role he's playing.
Nice to see Dukie off the needle and wearing a badge
dukie and marlo as cops talking to marla daniels as an auntie from round the way...this show messes with your mind
herc the union prez. donut the author. santy was a lawyer in episode 2. i am loving these cameos.
https://twitter.com/aodespair/status/1526242504244346884 21&t=v0ktMA1REONvjrrLfmo6ag
Premiered 20 years ago today.
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on June 02, 2022, 08:53:44 AM
Premiered 20 years ago today.
I've seen better ones on YouTube but hbo put out a 20 quotes for 20 years video
https://youtu.be/tlL53WbHZzY
https://fb.watch/dqdYqz_bo_/
Method Man is doing a Wire Podcast
i love the wire as much as anyone but i dont know what else is there to say on the show...everything that happened has been reported and every frame of the show has been dissected
maybe im crabby but like i dont know whats left here
Congratulations, The Wire fans. You've reached the level of obsessive nerdom previously reserved for sci-fi fans. Who are you dressing up as when you go to WireCon?
Quote from: General_Failure on June 05, 2022, 09:40:10 AM
Congratulations, The Wire fans. You've reached the level of obsessive nerdom previously reserved for sci-fi fans. Who are you dressing up as when you go to WireCon?
Igy - Frank Sobotka
Todd - Pryz
Jay - Bunk or Herc
Matty - Weebay
matty can totally pull off blackface
Simon is a genius but his Twitter game makes The Wire looks like Golden Girls.
I'm just sayin'...
Quote from: MDS on June 05, 2022, 06:33:18 PM
matty can totally pull off blackface
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Quote from: TAFKASD on June 05, 2022, 10:08:56 AM
Quote from: General_Failure on June 05, 2022, 09:40:10 AM
Congratulations, The Wire fans. You've reached the level of obsessive nerdom previously reserved for sci-fi fans. Who are you dressing up as when you go to WireCon?
Todd - Pryz
nothing in the history of the world has been more accurate than this
Quote from: General_Failure on June 05, 2022, 09:40:10 AM
Congratulations, The Wire fans. You've reached the level of obsessive nerdom previously reserved for sci-fi fans. Who are you dressing up as when you go to WireCon?
besides the fact one is a portrait of like real life institutions and life and one is throwing lighting bolts out your eyes....also wire fans sans lil guy have sex
You've got me there. Science fiction doesn't have a history of holding up a mirror to current day issues at the time it's created.
Quote from: ice grillin you on June 06, 2022, 03:53:38 PM
also wire fans sans lil guy have sex
i feel like this inaccurate but i cant figure out why
https://www.cinemablend.com/interviews/hbos-the-wire-cast-members-choose-the-shows-best-season-and-the-same-one-keeps-coming-up
dope article....good lookin
Not sure if anyone watches Animal Kingdom but one of the brothers needs a high profile lawyer because he's facing some serious charges. The lawyer they hire is Levy. Not sure I can picture him in any other role.
It was weird seeing him as a cop in The Deuce.
Watching this show on Hulu called The Old Man, Gbenga Akinnagbe aka Chris Partlow is in it. Not sure if I'll ever get over disassociating Wire characters from other acting roles.
You won't cause it's impossible
Yeah that is impossible. I have to hold back from coming here to post every instance too.
Dope
https://twitter.com/zachsilver/status/1557205001130463233 21&t=3AHSQkRaj6OBMLKidrZJHQ
https://twitter.com/dwatkinsworld/status/1573666025027129345 46&t=GTzLeQznuZGqxGWdsqCmJA
damn cutty got big
Conversation with my daughter on the way to her softball game this morning:
Daughter: you know I don't have school on Monday or Tuesday
Me: why...it one of those Jew holidays?
Daughter: yes it's Rosh Hashana
Funny thing is that I don't have off for Rosh Hashanah, but I do for Yom Kippur... and last year, it was the other way around.
Quote from: Geowhizzer on September 24, 2022, 04:43:11 PM
Funny thing is that I don't have off for Rosh Hashanah, but I do for Yom Kippur... and last year, it was the other way around.
3:10 mark
https://youtu.be/CZG1nH4j4YQ
The thing that separates the wire from other great shows in a similar genre is they're primarily carried by a great lead actor...Tony Soprano...Walter White etc. The wire just has many layers of great characters
Quote from: Hurts_Defense_Superbowl on September 24, 2022, 04:34:37 PM
Conversation with my daughter on the way to her softball game this morning:
Daughter: you know I don't have school on Monday or Tuesday
Me: why...it one of those Jew holidays?
Daughter: yes it's Rosh Hashana
this is how powerful the jews are...even being nice its like 5% of the population of the school district (teachers/students/admin) and of that 5% like 3/4ths dont give a shtein about the holiday. so basically everyone gets a 4 day weekend for nothing...good stuff
at my old jew school they used to give us the off for smaller jew holidays and some of them lasted a week. those were amazing.
https://www.thebaltimorebanner.com/culture/film-tv/the-wire-actor-who-played-maj-stanislaus-stan-valcheck-dies-WLTC3BEQWRFVRGP2Z2EF43O26M/
RIP to him
"rat fargers! all of ya's!"
https://youtu.be/lyk0RNaPuEc
21 years ago today it premiered
So?
It was a great show. But it was just a goddamned show.
Let's move on.
Who hasn't moved on? You angry this morning pal?
Quote from: Diomedes on June 03, 2023, 07:22:09 AMSo?
It was a great show. But it was just a goddamned show.
Let's move on.
1 scene from the wire is more valuable than your entire life
The Wire is like the Grateful Dead.
Pretty good, but Jesus Christ, the fans.
Quote from: Diomedes on June 03, 2023, 02:15:45 PMThe Wire is like the Grateful Dead.
Pretty good, but Jesus Christ, the fans.
Shakespeare fans suck too
That's why I don't visit the Shakespeare thread.
Know who would like Shakespeare?
Prez.