Trotter and some Falcons getting into it....they had to separate them.
TO pulled Trotter out of the mess...
Five Fo will kill people. :paranoid
WAR FIVE-FO!!
Trotter firing up the guys....I'd love to know who he got into it with.
Mort said... Trot said something to a player and pushing and shoving ensued. No punches thrown.
Blank & Lurie ended up in the middle of it
The refs are on the field and Mort said if punches were thrown (they were not) that they can eject people if they feel necessary.
Blank & Lurie were having a nice discussion and then the incident happened and they jumped in to try to break it up..
Like I said...TROTTER WILL KILL YOU. :evil :evil :evil
Trotter's going to kill someone tonight.
I just hope he doesnt get herpes.
Holy shtein, Trotter got ejected!!
Sal Pal said that it was between Hartwell and Trotter....he said it looked like a few punches were thrown.
Jim More, officials and a coach from the Eagles meeting on the field now....
Mort saying now TROTTER HAS BEEN EJECTED FROM THE GAME!! OG FARG!
KEVIN MATHIS EJECTED FROM THE GAME FOR ATL
trotter out....labinjo in? :paranoid
Quote from: Sgt PSN on September 12, 2005, 08:31:41 PM
Holy shtein, Trotter got ejected!!
WHAT A CROCK OF fargING shtein!!!! :boom
i rewatched it on tivo, and saw no lurie or blank.
but you get to see greg lewis cheering and dancing next yo it :-D
GODDAMMIT! >:(
Devastating loss for the Eagles ESPN says...
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on September 12, 2005, 08:31:49 PM
Sal Pal said that it was between Hartwell and Trotter....he said it looked like a few punches were thrown.
Jim More, officials and a coach from the Eagles meeting on the field now....
Mort saying now TROTTER HAS BEEN EJECTED FROM THE GAME!! OG FARG!
KEVIN MATHIS EJECTED FROM THE GAME FOR ATL
:boom :boo :chair
what a dumb-azz....especially against one of the best running teams in the league. :boo
If it was between Trotter and Hartwell, wtf is Hartwell not ejected for?
farg ESPN.
On one hand, GO TROTTER for getting the team fired up.
On the other, Team Trotter is extremely disappointed with the official ruling on the field. We will be contacting the NFL to exact revenge on the Vicks, and the obviously one-sided referees on the field.
farging homers -- this totally sucks.
who the hell is Mathis?
WTF!
Unbeliveable! STUPID, STUPID, STUPID
This sucks.
Mathis threw the first "punch"
Mark Simoneau at MLB?
MATHIS PUNCHED TROTTER FIRST!!
TROTTER PUNCHED BACK
:boom :boom :boom :boom :boom :boom :boom
THOSE were punches?
I smell a hefty load of nickel packages. Stop the speed running game and dare them to win with Duckett alone.
Now the refs are going to the replay. :-D
The play is being reviewed :-D
They are looking at the REPLAY?
WTF?
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Refs reviewing it on the replay booth....
TROTTER WAS HIT FIRST!
What kind of shtein is this?
Irvin says no one should be ejected. Jaws says they should be.
FARG.
Reid looks PISSED.
Trot is still warming up though. WTF? ???
well, they can review it all they want but i don't see them un-ejecting anyone.
farging stupid.
Big Red doesn't look too happy talking to the REF.
Trotter still going through warmups...not forced to leave the field....
Mort still says they were ejected...
This is just like the fight between Joey Porter and William Green
Andy Reid got in the middle of it too....
I'm watching the replay and there was a ref right there and he threw a flag once they started fighting. :-D
The ref through a flag :-D
Reid talking to Trotter now....
THIS IS BULL!
Nice work, chucklenuts! Way to retaliate. >:(
What the heck. Challenege the ejection!
This game is going to be awesome. Both teams in the middle of the field now.
WHOA!!
THE TWO TEAMS ARE GOING AT IT AT MIDFIELD NOW....
No fighting...just shtein talking!
:-D This is great
HOLY shtein!!
They're stomping on the Falcon, and it's ugly!!!
STOMP ON THAT LOGO!!! :yay
Trotter getting ejected is MOTHER F'ING BS!!
He was punched first...
Actually they should just keep both of them in the game...
You know Reid is fixin to read them the riot act in the lockerroom
It looks like they were doing what they ALWAYS do pregame at midfield and the Falcons went apeshtein.
I want the defense on the field first.
Someone should drop a steamer off on that logo!
The ejections are bullshtein.
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on September 12, 2005, 08:40:38 PM
Trotter getting ejected is MOTHER F'ING BS!!
He was punched first...
Actually they should just keep both of them in the game...
You know Reid is fixin to read them the riot act in the lockerroom
Absolutely :boom :boom :boom :boom :boom :boom
Who was the second Falcon that threw punches?
im pissed. im at work and i have on 94.1 i had to deal with TATE.
this is whack. whats going on? is he in or out?
labingo over sim....please!
Trotter never, never, never THREW A PUNCH!!!!
WATCH THE REPLAYS, REF!!
Mike Lewis was talking MAD shtein to the Falcons!
This is going to be NUTS!
The announcers are calling out the refs... "Trotter never threw a punch!! He should not be ejected!!"
farging zebras
Trot never through a freakin punch. What the heck.
Quote from: Mad-Lad on September 12, 2005, 08:38:28 PM
Nice work, chucklenuts! Way to retaliate. >:(
i stand corrected. he didn't do anything other than grab his helmet.
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on September 12, 2005, 08:43:08 PM
Trotter never, never, never THREW A PUNCH!!!!
WATCH THE REPLAYS, REF!!
Mike Lewis was talking MAD shtein to the Falcons!
This is going to be NUTS!
Andy came between the two teams and the Eagles parted like the Red Sea.
That was a horseshtein call. :boom
Tom Jackson and Michael IRvin are going CRAZY talking about how they should have NEVER ejected Trotter.
Sal Pal says the refs can throw out both players in a fight even if only one person threw a punch....
dude, hearing phreak getting wild is well worth it!
how many beers deep?
ED, Trotter NEVER threw a punch!
:boo
Sal Pal said that Lurie said the explanation he got from Walt Coleman was that when two players go at it they are ejected...
THAT IS BULL!!
Sal Pal says they will NOT overturn the decision...
BULLCRAP!
F'ING BULL. >:(
LOL, Sal Pal is pathetic.
Quote from: BigEd76 on September 12, 2005, 08:44:29 PM
Sal Pal says the refs can throw out both players in a fight even if only one person threw a punch....
Just like high school.
Quote from: StevieLeftCollege on September 12, 2005, 08:44:33 PM
dude, hearing phreak getting wild is well worth it!
how many beers deep?
8...16 left to go....
THIS shtein IS GOING TO BE NUTS>>>>>I WANT THE DEFENSE ON THE F'ING FIELD FIRST. MIKE LEWIS IS GOING TO KILL VICK.
He threw NO PUNCHES but gets EJECTED...BULL.
Whatever. We will win the game anyway, and now we can say we did it without the middle of our defense.
my roomies just got a table at champs... >:D
i hope i see falcons jerz.
What. The. Farg.
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on September 12, 2005, 08:46:38 PM
Quote from: StevieLeftCollege on September 12, 2005, 08:44:33 PM
dude, hearing phreak getting wild is well worth it!
how many beers deep?
8...16 left to go....
THIS shtein IS GOING TO BE NUTS>>>>>I WANT THE DEFENSE ON THE F'ING FIELD FIRST. MIKE LEWIS IS GOING TO KILL VICK.
He threw NO PUNCHES but gets EJECTED...BULL.
8)
kill everyone!
trotter's gonna come out in the 3rd quarter with a folding chair and hit the ref :-D
ala WWF style
Well....Simoneu it is.
Quote from: Wingspan on September 12, 2005, 08:48:08 PM
trotter's gonna come out in the 3rd quarter with a folding chair and hit the ref :-D
ala WWF style
Will he be dressed up like a terrorist?
I AM F'IN HEATED...THIS IS GARBAGE.
Why would they throw him out when that farging bitchass Mathis threw the blows?!? All's Trotter did was grab him!!
Now we have to watch Mark goddamn Simoneau play MLB....I hope it is Labinjo...let the Canadian dude go out there and break Vick's goddamn neck.
Lets look at the positives, at least we don't have to hear the pre-game TO/Donovan shtein.
Time for Labjino to kick ass ;)
just heard about this (tivo'ing stuff)
DAMN!
*anyone else see Mora smiling afterwards? Guess he likes the Mathis for Trotter swap.
la bingo!
94.1 is saying birds players are now going to hurt falcs player.
im so mad.
This is major bullshtein. Time for a Bodybag Game sequel.
Dawkins is gonna kill someone.
I hope TO takes a farging piss on their logo after he torches that overrated bitch DeANgelo Hall...
This game is going to be nuts...someone give me a helmet...I want to hit someone.
Quote from: QB Eagles on September 12, 2005, 08:50:50 PM
This is major bullshtein. Time for a Bodybag Game sequel.
one can only hope.
HOUSE OF PAIN II BABY!
THEY BROUGHT THE HOUSE...WE BROUGHT THE PAIN!!
Trotter, Mathis ejected after pregame scuffle
Jeremiah Trotter and Kevin Mathis were ejected during a pregame scuffle before Monday night's game between the Philadelphia Eagles and Atlanta Falcons.
Trotter initially had words with the Falcons' DeAngelo Hall before several players from each team got into an on-field confrontation. Several officials tried to separate the players, with one throwing a flag during the scuffle.
Labinjo startin
The refs are fargin losers....NFL officials forced the refs to look at it again and they still threw Trotter out....
TROTTER THREW NO PUNCHES!
FARG! FARG! FARG!
Mike Labinjo the crazy Canadian is going to start....
Mort spoke to the head of officials...the decision is IRREVERSABLE..
FARG>
I gotta go cool off....
he may not have punched him...but that horn grab was pretty real.
Quote from: MDS on September 12, 2005, 08:53:57 PM
Labinjo startin
Just heard the same thing and thank farging god.
What a crock of horshtein. Trotter or no Trotter, we's gonna kill them.
It was a scheme thought up in the locker room. It's the only way those idiots have a chance against our D.
thank god labingo is starting.
hes got real good strength but hes a young baller.
hope he can step it up and lay good wood.
L-A-B-I-N-J-O
Please learn to spell the players names. :-[
Wow, what a nutty way to start off a football game.
awwww, the wittle falcons fans are booing.
Quote from: PhillyGirl on September 12, 2005, 08:58:26 PM
L-A-B-I-N-J-O
Please learn to spell the players names. :-[
im not of sane mind right now.
I'm pumped
cooling off didn't work..still heated...vick is farging dead....GO BIRDS!
I slept through most of the MNCountdown, but since when was Simon a key in containing Vick? That's one of the things they kept saying while I was in and out of dozing.
Opening was okay. Nothing beats Danger Zone.
No way Trott shoulg have been thrown for that.
I hope we rape these guys by 40 points. Not enough to win tonight; now we have to completely embarrass and emasculate them on national television.
they didnt put the game on at work yet.
:'(
Quote from: MDS on September 12, 2005, 09:05:28 PM
Quote from: StevieLeftCollege on September 12, 2005, 09:04:42 PM
they didnt put the game on at work yet.
:'(
:-D
but ill be going to the bar in an hour with cute girls and you will still be a virgin.
The "fight" was a setup. Period.
I'm not sure that Trotter choosing to go towards the Falcon was being set up. I know that Mathis took the first shot, but Trotter did walk over to him.
If it was a set-up, Trotter was just darn stupid to fall for it.
Quote from: Geowhizzer on September 13, 2005, 12:34:23 AM
If it was a set-up, Trotter was just darn stupid to fall for it.
Not out of the realm of possibility. :paranoid
C'mon, it wasn't a set-up. That's thinking like a taterskins fan. Everything's a conspiracy to make Gibbs look senile, but really he's a genius.
The truth is it was a very questionable call to keep Trot out, but Trot played a huge role in getting in that situation in the first place. The guy plays with a lot of heart, but no one said he's Einstein.
Quote from: QB Eagles on September 13, 2005, 12:40:55 AM
C'mon, it wasn't a set-up. That's thinking like a taterskins fan. Everything's a conspiracy to make Gibbs look senile, but really he's a genius.
The truth is it was a very questionable call to keep Trot out, but Trot played a huge role in getting in that situation in the first place. The guy plays with a lot of heart, but no one said he's Einstein.
Trotter's probably never even heard of Thomas Einstein. Or Albert Edison.
I don't know this one smelled of Jo Jo English / Derick Harper.
I still think that it was a weak call, but Trot's got noone to blame but himself.
And as for the loss- the Eagles are supposed to be a championship-calibre football team. Losing Trotter is no excuse for the way the offense played.
Trot did not deserve to get thrown out. That was rubbish.
DGunn said on PGL that Ike Reese told the Falcons that the Eagles like to go to mid-field and that got them fired up.
BLAME IKE!
Trot being interviewed...
Trash-talking...just got heated...didn't deserve to get kicked out.
"I didn't throw a punch. He threw a punch at me and I tried to grab his facemask. I kept telling the ref to watch it again because I di not throw a punch. When Andy told me I was out I was very upset."
I was not as pleased by that ejection as I should have been. With no suitable replacement my joy was short lived.
Quote from: Geowhizzer on September 13, 2005, 12:34:23 AM
I'm not sure that Trotter choosing to go towards the Falcon was being set up. I know that Mathis took the first shot, but Trotter did walk over to him.
If it was a set-up, Trotter was just darn stupid to fall for it.
It kind of makes you wonder what started the whole thing. It looked as though Mathis had said something to Trotter, then he walked towards Mathis.
I have to admit, the idea that it could be a set up crossed my mind after I saw the replay for the 5,000th time. Maybe they figured, well, we lose our nickle back, but they lose the backbone of their run defense. All I know is, I've never heard of anything like that in over 35 years as a football fan.
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on September 13, 2005, 12:57:15 AM
Trot did not deserve to get thrown out. That was rubbish.
DGunn said on PGL that Ike Reese told the Falcons that the Eagles like to go to mid-field and that got them fired up.
BLAME IKE!
I thought they stopped doing that after the Jag's bitch slapped them a couple of years ago. Here's an idea, don't jump on the opposing team's logo before the games. Apparently they don't tend to like that too much. ::)
They do it at home, too. They do a team get together at midfield. It's fargin' stupid that teams whine and cry about it. But hey, whatever takes to get your unmotivated ass pumped for the game I guess.
At home is one thing, it's their field. On the road is something else. I like to think the Eagles would get fired up if say the Cowboys were at the Linc and did a tapdance on the Eagle head before the game started.
I remember waking up and seeing the Eagles jumping on the Falcon and the Falcon players getting in their faces and my first thought was, "they're still doing that shtein?".
Quote from: TexasEagle on September 13, 2005, 03:40:56 AM
At home is one thing, it's their field. On the road is something else. I like to think the Eagles would get fired up if say the Cowboys were at the Linc and did a tapdance on the Eagle head before the game started.
I remember waking up and seeing the Eagles jumping on the Falcon and the Falcon players getting in their faces and my first thought was, "they're still doing that shtein?".
Agreed. We owned them in the NFCG. Act business-like and don't do all the other shtein and then you don't get thrown out of the game. Trotter should be fined a week's wages.
The Trotter thing came BEFORE the logo and please with the "don't do it on the road".
Oh, so change your entire pregame ritual, that they've been doing for years, because some whiny ass Falcons can't handle it? Puh-lease. They do it before EVERY game and a lot of teams do it at the Linc as well.
Trotter got a punch thrown at him and didn't throw one back. Tell me again why he should be fine a week's wages?
Some of you are talking complete bullshtein right now.
Trotter was wrong. He didn't "punch", but he did retaliate.
Regardless, he shouldn't be fined. The coaches can use last night's game to learn lessons, but they'd be wise to let the players move on and prepare for San Francisco.
Quote from: FFatPatt on September 13, 2005, 09:05:35 AM
Trotter was wrong. He didn't "punch", but he did retaliate.
Regardless, he shouldn't be fined. The coaches can use last night's game to learn lessons, but they'd be wise to let the players move on and prepare for San Francisco.
Actually, IMO, a fine would have been much more appropriate than an ejection.
Think about it. If I'm an unscrupulous opposing coach and I can send my busted second-string CB to get himself and our opponent's marquee LB ejected, why wouldn't I do it? Losing Mathis meant nothing compared to losing Trotter.
Quote from: Pats and Sox on September 13, 2005, 09:13:14 AM
Actually, IMO, a fine would have been much more appropriate than an ejection.
I agree. Since he was thrown out of the game for NOT throwing a punch, that more than satisfies any fines he should have gotten.
Trotter needed to back off when Mathis did that. He's got people counting on him. He can't let himself get baited into that kind of thing.
There's a reason he's known as "Dumbass" around here. And not just because Big Brother calls him that.
Quote from: Diomedes on September 13, 2005, 09:17:43 AM
Trotter needed to back off when Mathis did that. He's got people counting on him. He can't let himself get baited into that kind of thing.
There's a reason he's known as "Dumbass" around here. And not just because Big Brother calls him that.
I couldn't agree more. I hope he's learned something from all this. It had to absolutely kill him to sit out last night.
Quote from: Diomedes on September 13, 2005, 09:17:43 AM
Trotter needed to back off when Mathis did that. He's got people counting on him. He can't let himself get baited into that kind of thing.
Exactly. And he should be fined a week's wages because, as a result of his actions, he contributed not one damn thing to the team's performance this week.
Quote from: Pats and Sox on September 13, 2005, 09:13:14 AM
Actually, IMO, a fine would have been much more appropriate than an ejection.
Sure, but the ejection already happened. That's yet another reason why imposing a fine is not a good idea.
Quote from: PhillyGirl on September 13, 2005, 09:04:02 AM
Trotter got a punch thrown at him and didn't throw one back. Tell me again why he should be fine a week's wages?
he was trying to rip his head off. punch or no punch, trotter retaliated. he shouldnt have. he did a stupid thing that hurt the team.
Has everyone been ignoring the fact that Mathis then spiked Trotter's helmet and that during the skirmish D. Hall also threw a few 'punches'?
Just curious, because if you are going to eject Trott for what he did, D. Hall should have been gone also. Mathis definitely deserved to go....
Let's just say that DeAngelo Hall got away with a lot last night.
Quote from: mikey418 on September 13, 2005, 10:07:50 AM
Has everyone been ignoring the fact that Mathis then spiked Trotter's helmet and that during the skirmish D. Hall also threw a few 'punches'?
Just curious, because if you are going to eject Trott for what he did, D. Hall should have been gone also. Mathis definitely deserved to go....
it was Hall that spiked the helmet. that guy is a punk, i don't like him too much.
Quote from: mikey418 on September 13, 2005, 10:07:50 AM
Has everyone been ignoring the fact that Mathis then spiked Trotter's helmet and that during the skirmish D. Hall also threw a few 'punches'?
Just curious, because if you are going to eject Trott for what he did, D. Hall should have been gone also. Mathis definitely deserved to go....
Actually HALL spiked the helmet....after throwing a punch....and then proceeded to get away with some BLATANT PI calls on TO all night long.
he played for frank beamer what do you expect
the hokies make miami look like the eagles
It just seemed that the Falcons didn't just have the home field on their side....
But that said and as bad as the Eagles played, including Akers missing 2 FGs, the Birds only lost by 4 points and had chances to win the game - which I think is a big positive.
Look at it this way. The birds played their strongest challenger for the NFC, on the road. They got screwed before the game and during the game. Akers, normally a sure shot, missed 2 FGs. The Eagles played horrible on offense and the playcalling was poor, not to mention the play of the guards. And after all that, the birds only lost by 4...giving up 0 points after the 1st quarter...
Birds will be fine. It's a long year and this game will be forgotten about in a few weeks.
^^^^
good post
but it will only truly be forgotten if they can win at kc (a BIG if)...without overstating it the key to the season from the get was the first three road games (atl kc dal)....all killer...if they can salvage it and go 2-1 then last night never happened
Quote from: ice grillin you on September 13, 2005, 10:25:06 AM
^^^^
good post
but it will only truly be forgotten if they can win at kc (a BIG if)...without overstating it the key to the season from the get was the first three road games (atl kc dal)....all killer...if they can salvage it and go 2-1 then last night never happened
I agree. The KC game looms large.
Then again, if they lose to SF or Oak-town... hoo boy.
I don't get the talk about Trotter "not thinking straight" or it was a "dumb move".Have you people ever played in a competitive sport where their was emotion? This isn't checkers.The guy was hyped and if it had been some other crew doing the game he probably wouldn't have been tossed.Would you still be on his back?
Then again, if they lose to SF or Oak-town... hoo boy
im expecting a loss at kc but multiply those expectations times 100 and thats how much i expect them to beat sf and oak
a loss in either of those games=(http://vnexpress.net/Vietnam/The-gioi/Tu-lieu/2003/12/3B9CE139/Hindeburg.jpg)
Quote from: BobbyT on September 13, 2005, 10:30:38 AM
I don't get the talk about Trotter "not thinking straight" or it was a "dumb move".Have you people ever played in a competitive sport where their was emotion?
Yes, I've played in competitive sport, but not as A JOB. Remember, this is Trotter's job, and a very well paid job at that. If I'd done something dumb and avoidable that caused me to miss work for a week, you'd be damn sure
I wouldn't get paid.
Jeremiah's Press Release, courtesy of the Team Trotter Newswire:
For my actions, and how it hurt the Eagles, I apologize.
Unlike my opponents, I relish the pure sportsmanship of the contest, and prefer not to turn it into a
Contest of barbarism. In retrospect, I should have maintained my composure, and
Kept my emotions from getting the better of me.
As it stands now, I have
Truly learned my lesson and have spoken to Coach Reid about my actions.
Love for the game will always keep me passionate, but I understandand that my
Actions showed otherwise. I have learned my lesson, and have promised Coach that I
No longer will jeopardize the team's goals with my own actions.
To my teammates, the coaching staff, and the fans, I sincerely apologize.
And with that, bring on San Francisco so we can show the world our power!
I don't get the animosity towards Trotter. Sure the Falcons racked up 200 yards rushing, but they only put up 14 points. And they did not get hardly any yards up the middle. If I had to guess I'd say that 75% of those 200 yards came off of the RT's ass. They ran right at Jevon Kearse to neutralize his speed. That was evident if you watched the game.
The only thing I can say I wish was different about the defense was Jim Johnson should've put Kearse at RDE again. Not playing him there was a mistake. Not only because he has the speed to get to Vick but ND Kalu is a solid run defender and he could've helped stop that running off RT.
anyone here would have done what Trotter did after getting hit in the face.
atlanta did have more success running between the tackles. That, in turn, allowed Vick to attack the edges. They knew our defense with Trotter is stout. Without him, it's suspect.
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on September 13, 2005, 12:33:18 PM
I don't get the animosity towards Trotter. Sure the Falcons racked up 200 yards rushing, but they only put up 14 points. And they did not get hardly any yards up the middle. If I had to guess I'd say that 75% of those 200 yards came off of the RT's ass. They ran right at Jevon Kearse to neutralize his speed. That was evident if you watched the game.
The only thing I can say I wish was different about the defense was Jim Johnson should've put Kearse at RDE again. Not playing him there was a mistake. Not only because he has the speed to get to Vick but ND Kalu is a solid run defender and he could've helped stop that running off RT.
i agree with most of what you said, however, Sportscenter showed a couple times where Labinjo couldn't get over to the hole, probably something Trotter would've been able to do. so just because they weren't running up the middle doesn't mean that Trotter wouldn't have been effective
anyone here would have done what Trotter did after getting hit in the face
not true...players get punched all the time and instead of retaliate they fly their hands in the air and back off....so the other guy gets the flag...
in trotters defense tho pregame warmups are a different beast...there really is no precedence for what happened...refs being around was probably the last thing on his mind
for warmups, they better bring Trotter out in the Hannibal Lecter restraint system from Silence of the Lambs
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on September 13, 2005, 12:33:18 PM
I don't get the animosity towards Trotter. Sure the Falcons racked up 200 yards rushing, but they only put up 14 points. And they did not get hardly any yards up the middle. If I had to guess I'd say that 75% of those 200 yards came off of the RT's ass. They ran right at Jevon Kearse to neutralize his speed. That was evident if you watched the game.
The only thing I can say I wish was different about the defense was Jim Johnson should've put Kearse at RDE again. Not playing him there was a mistake. Not only because he has the speed to get to Vick but ND Kalu is a solid run defender and he could've helped stop that running off RT.
I have absolutly no anomosity towards Trotter at all, only thing he did was try to defend hisself.
I dissagree about no yards coming up the middle, if you watch the replay of the game, the biggest gains they had were all up the middle, and you can see Labingo being taken out of all of those plays. I know that the Falcons only scored 14 points, but if Trotter had been in there they'd have been lucky to have scored once. jmo.
Quote from: ice grillin you on September 13, 2005, 12:39:14 PM
anyone here would have done what Trotter did after getting hit in the face
in trotters defense tho pregame warmups are a different beast..
yeah, so what your saying is that anyone here would have done what Trotter id after getting hit in the face.
Quote from: Sun_Mo on September 13, 2005, 12:39:07 PM
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on September 13, 2005, 12:33:18 PM
I don't get the animosity towards Trotter. Sure the Falcons racked up 200 yards rushing, but they only put up 14 points. And they did not get hardly any yards up the middle. If I had to guess I'd say that 75% of those 200 yards came off of the RT's ass. They ran right at Jevon Kearse to neutralize his speed. That was evident if you watched the game.
The only thing I can say I wish was different about the defense was Jim Johnson should've put Kearse at RDE again. Not playing him there was a mistake. Not only because he has the speed to get to Vick but ND Kalu is a solid run defender and he could've helped stop that running off RT.
i agree with most of what you said, however, Sportscenter showed a couple times where Labinjo couldn't get over to the hole, probably something Trotter would've been able to do. so just because they weren't running up the middle doesn't mean that Trotter wouldn't have been effective
Yeah, I saw that 'Binjo certainly didn't get off his blocks well. But in his defense he had 30 minutes to prepare.
Trot would've been effective, but they should've won last night either way.
Even if Akers makes 1 of those 2 then the final drive could've been approached differently. Instead of having to get a TD they play for FG position.
of course, linebacker play is affected by how the d-line takes on the o-line, and there were many plays where i saw Hollis and Darwin getting blocked 7 yards down the field.
on the other hand, i saw Patterson in the backfield a lot last night.
Atlanta players said they were pissed because opponents are not allowed to bounce on their home turf. What the farg ever. Pansies!
Quote from: The Waco Kid on September 13, 2005, 12:47:47 PM
Atlanta players said they were pissed because opponents are not allowed to bounce on their home turf. What the farg ever. Pansies!
trotter said after the game that he thought Ike got them wise to that
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on September 13, 2005, 12:44:26 PMYeah, I saw that 'Binjo certainly didn't get off his blocks well. But in his defense he had 30 minutes[/d] days at least to prepare.
fixed, unless of course they are either a) koy detmet or b) the cliche of "it only takes one play for me to start, and i have to prepare like i am a starter" is completely made of bull
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on September 13, 2005, 12:44:26 PM
Yeah, I saw that 'Binjo certainly didn't get off his blocks well. But in his defense he had 30 minutes to prepare.
He's supposed to be ready to go at any time, I think he sucked because he just ain't that good.
Quote from: Wingspan on September 13, 2005, 12:50:43 PM
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on September 13, 2005, 12:44:26 PMYeah, I saw that 'Binjo certainly didn't get off his blocks well. But in his defense he had 30 minutes[/d] days at least to prepare.
fixed, unless of course they are either a) koy detmet or b) the cliche of "it only takes one play for me to start, and i have to prepare like i am a starter" is completely made of bull
He said he didn't get a lot of practice time at MIKE this week.
Can't imagine why. I mean, Trotter doesn't actually practice, does he?
Gargano just made a point that I thought of last night but forgot to bring up...
i was suprised they didn't put Simoneau in there. even though he isn't very good, at least he can run and did play a whole season at MLB
And what, be dragged five yards by Dunn? We already know what Simoneau can't do.
tackle. cover.
actually, what can he do?
Quote from: General_Failure on September 13, 2005, 12:55:20 PM
And what, be dragged five yards by Dunn? We already know what Simoneau can't do.
Vern Troyer could run over Simoneau and drag him 5 yards.
I can still see him getting plowed into the ground by the Bus.
Quote from: General_Failure on September 13, 2005, 12:55:20 PM
And what, be dragged five yards by Dunn? We already know what Simoneau can't do.
if Dunn is dragging him, that's at least slowing him down, which was more than Labinjo was doing ;)
So now we no what we knew last year before Trotter was put back in, our backup mlb's suck ass.
Quote from: Sun_Mo on September 13, 2005, 12:48:59 PM
Quote from: The Waco Kid on September 13, 2005, 12:47:47 PM
Atlanta players said they were pissed because opponents are not allowed to bounce on their home turf. What the farg ever. Pansies!
trotter said after the game that he thought Ike got them wise to that
Ike admitted he got them wise about it.
Also, I think the majority of us would not have just grabbed Mathis' face mask. During the game and pre-game are different. That happens in a game, you back off and get a flag on the other team. Pre-game flags dont carry over...
Quote from: PhillyGirl on September 13, 2005, 09:04:02 AM
The Trotter thing came BEFORE the logo and please with the "don't do it on the road".
Oh, so change your entire pregame ritual, that they've been doing for years, because some whiny ass Falcons can't handle it? Puh-lease. They do it before EVERY game and a lot of teams do it at the Linc as well.
Yeah... your point? Mine was I thought they stopped doing that two years ago. Since I'm not anywhere near Philly I can't go to the games and they don't show pregame stuff like that on TV. You usually only see guys standing around sans pads or a small huddle right before kickoff in an endzone or on the sidelines. So that they still jump around on the logo is a surprise since I believe they said they were going to stop doing it at mid field on the logo after the Jacksonville game.
Quote from: MURP on September 13, 2005, 12:36:36 PM
anyone here would have done what Trotter did after getting hit in the face.
I would have. Anyone that says they wouldn't have I have to wonder if they've played football. I have no animosity toward Trotter, even without him the D wasn't the real problem last night. (It's like 2002 all over again. :D)
Link (http://www.philly.com/mld/inquirer/sports/12637629.htm)
QuotePosted on Wed, Sep. 14, 2005
Phil Sheridan | The way to beat Birds hasn't changed: Bruise McNabb
By Phil Sheridan
Inquirer Columnist
Some things don't change. You want instant, honest analysis of an Eagles game, you go find Ike Reese.
At 1 a.m. yesterday, there he was among his new teammates in the Atlanta Falcons' locker room. While various Eagles were mumbling about their disjointed performance in a 14-10 loss to the Falcons, Reese knew exactly what had transpired and why.
The Falcons were in almost the same position the Eagles were in two seasons ago, opening their season on a Monday night, at home, against the team that had beaten them in the NFC championship game.
Remember? Tampa Bay crushed the Eagles in the first regular-season game at Lincoln Financial Field in 2003.
"We came out there and we played tight," Reese said, recalling that game. "We did not play well. I knew it wouldn't be hard for these guys to get up for this game, but I was happy throughout the week because no one seemed consumed with it being a revenge game. There wasn't a lot of talk about the NFC championship game."
There was talk instead about standing up to an Eagles team that has been the class of the NFC for the last few years. It all started a half-hour before the game, when the Eagles gathered at midfield to jump up and down on the Falcons' logo.
Reese led a charge of Falcons who rushed from a corner of the field to break up the Eagles' little dance party.
"I told our players, 'We're not going to let them dance on our logo,' " Reese said. "I've been on the other side. I know the mind-set they're trying to bring there. They're saying, 'We're taking over this field. It's going to be our stadium today.' And they've been successful doing that. We were not going to let them take our stadium and dance in our stadium."
The outcome of the game had nothing to do with the gamesmanship that preceded it. Not really. The Falcons beat the Eagles because their defense was quick and relentless and determined to batter Donovan McNabb as much as possible.
"We were able to hit 5," Reese said.
As good as he has been for so much of his career, McNabb has one thing in common with every other quarterback in the history of the NFL. If he's getting hit a lot and he's getting hit hard, his performance goes way, way down.
That was true of Dan Marino and Joe Montana and Brett Favre, and it's true of McNabb and Michael Vick and Tom Brady.
Put it this way: If McNabb has to be X-rayed after a game, the Eagles probably lost. Except for that famous game he played on a broken ankle against Arizona, McNabb has been unfortunately human in games such as this.
On Monday night, the Eagles failed to protect him and they scored only 10 points. It's not all that complicated.
The first-quarter hit by Atlanta's Chad Lavalais bruised McNabb's sternum and left him in obvious pain. As always, McNabb toughed it out and stayed in the game, but the hits just kept on coming. And it seemed apparent that the injury had McNabb feeling less willing to run the ball.
Of course, that led to more hits in the pocket.
"We were able to make him uncomfortable in the pocket," Reese said. "We made him throw it quick sometimes, made him throw off his back foot sometimes. We were able to get pressure on him."
The Eagles now have a two-game losing streak in games that matter, and in both cases, McNabb got knocked around pretty good. That should raise some concerns. Maybe the blueprint for beating the Eagles has been established.
Then again, not that many defenses have the speed, the talent and the scheme to get consistent pressure on a quarterback as good and as mobile as McNabb.
"We had been very effective against pressure before," coach Andy Reid said yesterday. "We didn't do it as well as we should have, and that is where I say I have a big part of that, calling the right routes against the pressure package of theirs to get our guys in the right position."
That's typical Reid, but in this case, he's right. There were a handful of play calls Monday that looked doomed to fail from the start and simply added fuel to the Falcons' fired-up defense. The usual dearth of running plays allowed the Falcons to tee off on the wounded McNabb with impunity.
It's hard to have a champion's swagger when you're getting knocked on your rear end all night. It's hard to dance, on a logo or after a touchdown, when it hurts to breathe.
Point remains...Trotter still didn't throw a punch. :P
Quote from: PhillyGirl on September 14, 2005, 11:31:07 AM
Point remains...Trotter still didn't throw a punch. :P
Eh...I know, but it looks like Ike has completely turned to the
DarkSide :evil
Oh Ike, how you've broken my heart.
Burn Ike.
Trotter and Mathis fined $10K each (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2161289)
I still think Trotter shouldn't even be in the same boat as Mathis. He never farging threw a punch.
He can afford it.
Quote from: PhillyGirl on September 14, 2005, 11:54:18 AM
Trotter and Mathis fined $10K each (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2161289)
I still think Trotter shouldn't even be in the same boat as Mathis. He never farging threw a punch.
At least there weren't any more game suspensions. As for Trotter, he may not of thrown a punch, but getting into that scuffle prior to a game was an idiotic thing to do. He had the guys face mask which was probably enough.
"I didn't expect him to throw a punch, and I would love to meet him by the parking lot."
--Jeremiah Trotter
Quote from: FFatPatt on September 14, 2005, 12:01:21 PM
"I didn't expect him to throw a punch, and I would love to meet him by the parking lot."
--Jeremiah Trotter
Tis why most of us love him. lol.
And probably why another scumbag coach will try it this season.
if trotter even goes past the 25 yard line the rest of the season he should lose his salary
Quote from: General_Failure on September 14, 2005, 12:05:13 PM
And probably why another scumbag coach will try it this season.
I vote we keep him in a cage until the opening kickoff.
That's gonna make it real hard from him to tackle RBs from behind.
did adams play mlb with dallas? ???
Quote from: FFatPatt on September 14, 2005, 12:06:46 PM
Quote from: General_Failure on September 14, 2005, 12:05:13 PM
And probably why another scumbag coach will try it this season.
I vote we keep him in a cage until the opening kickoff.
And don't feed him. Keep him hungry for the game. >:D
Quote from: mhunt on September 14, 2005, 12:33:14 PM
did adams play mlb with dallas? ???
Yes, he was out of position.
He's the perfect replacement for Trotter then. :D
link (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2161843)
Looks like Mathis was injured in camp today. :-D
QuoteLOWERY BRANCH, Ga. -- Atlanta Falcons cornerback Kevin Mathis, who was kicked out of the season opener against Philadelphia after a scuffle in pregame warmups, won't be playing this week, either.
Mathis injured his left knee in practice Wednesday, and the Falcons fear it could be serious. He was on crutches in the locker room and being sent for an MRI exam.
"It's at least a sprain," coach Jim Mora said. "It locked up on him. He'll have to be evaluated further before I can tell anything more than that. It's not good."
I don't believe in karma, but boy would this be sweeter if I did.
Quote from: Diomedes on September 14, 2005, 05:28:17 PM
link (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2161843)
Looks like Mathis was injured in camp today. :-D
QuoteLOWERY BRANCH, Ga. -- Atlanta Falcons cornerback Kevin Mathis, who was kicked out of the season opener against Philadelphia after a scuffle in pregame warmups, won't be playing this week, either.
Mathis injured his left knee in practice Wednesday, and the Falcons fear it could be serious. He was on crutches in the locker room and being sent for an MRI exam.
"It's at least a sprain," coach Jim Mora said. "It locked up on him. He'll have to be evaluated further before I can tell anything more than that. It's not good."
I don't believe in karma, but boy would this be sweeter if I did.
But that's exactly what it is. You reap what you sew. Eat shtein Mathis.
You wear what you sew. You reap what you sow.
Dio = grammar/spelling thug.
:fire
Karma will knock DeAngelo Hall out for the season next.
Quote from: Diomedes on September 14, 2005, 05:32:39 PM
You wear what you sew. You reap what you sow.
lol
Take that Sarge, you dink.
Jerry = grammar/spelling wimp.
:-D
Quote from: Diomedes on September 14, 2005, 05:32:39 PM
You wear what you sew. You reap what you sow.
:-D :-D Hey Sarge, theres a new feature for posting, I use it frequently.
spell check
shore, it's 'spell sheck'. Not 'context check.' (Are you all idiots??)
He'd still farg it up.
Quote from: shorebird on September 14, 2005, 06:05:39 PM
Quote from: Diomedes on September 14, 2005, 05:32:39 PM
You wear what you sew. You reap what you sow.
:-D :-D Hey Sarge, theres a new feature for posting, I use it frequently.
spell check
It's still a word fargtard, just the wrong one.
Spellcheck ain't gonna catch it. :P
He says sew. She says sow. I say.......So the farg what?!?!?
Quote from: Sgt PSN on September 14, 2005, 06:08:45 PM
It's still a word fargtard, just the wrong one. Spellcheck ain't gonna catch it. :P
......oh yeah..... :-[
Why do people use complimentary when they really mean complementary? For example, when we as a board were discussing the need to get another halfback, people were typing that they wanted one that would compliment Westbrook even though he already knows he's good.
Fargin' grammar nazi.
(http://imgsrv.madmaxmorningshow.com/image/DbGraphic/200502/88183.jpg)
we better all hope GF doesnt put in a "Relevance Check" button...
Quote from: Diomedes on September 14, 2005, 05:28:17 PM
link (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2161843)
Looks like Mathis was injured in camp today. :-D
QuoteLOWERY BRANCH, Ga. -- Atlanta Falcons cornerback Kevin Mathis, who was kicked out of the season opener against Philadelphia after a scuffle in pregame warmups, won't be playing this week, either.
Mathis injured his left knee in practice Wednesday, and the Falcons fear it could be serious. He was on crutches in the locker room and being sent for an MRI exam.
"It's at least a sprain," coach Jim Mora said. "It locked up on him. He'll have to be evaluated further before I can tell anything more than that. It's not good."
I don't believe in karma, but boy would this be sweeter if I did.
Good for him. :yay
QuoteFalcons | Mathis Out for the Year
Wed, 14 Sep 2005 14:48:05 -0700
KFFL has learned Atlanta Falcons CB Kevin Mathis (knee) will miss the remainder of the season after blowing out his knee Wednesday, Sept. 14. He suffered a torn ACL, MCL and PCL.
Burn, bitch.
We can close the book on this now... (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news?slug=ap-mnf-fines&prov=ap&type=lgns)
Lavalais - $7500 (for hit on McNabb)
Trotter, K. Mathis, D. Hall - $5000 each
K. Carpenter, A. Rossum, K. McCadam, K. Adams, J. Short, M. Labinjo - $2500 each
Yes, Lavalais's hit was illegal. Yes, Hall should have been tossed, but wasn't. Whatever.
Go Eagles. Kill 49ers.
Did we have any linebackers that weren't fined from that game? Oh right, the two Hoydas.
Quote from: General_Failure on September 15, 2005, 03:20:27 PM
Did we have any linebackers that weren't fined from that game? Oh right, the two Hoydas.
replay showed simoneau actually threw more punches than anyone. however he was 5 yards behind the melee and never actually hit anyone. nfl officials didnt have the heart to fine him.
Oh yeah, I saw that. I think Dhani had some nice windmill action going too.
Matt McCoy was too busy trying to learn the defense.
Artis was busy practicing his false start technique.
He really doesn't need the practice.
falcons are lucky this guy wasnt around monday nite....
(http://graphics.fansonly.com/photos/schools/stan/sports/m-footbl/04-05roster/Bergeron04_mug.jpg)
Nobody would have been able to lift his helmet to throw it.
Hall wouldn't have been able to lift that helmet to spike it.
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on September 14, 2005, 07:12:10 PM
QuoteFalcons | Mathis Out for the Year
Wed, 14 Sep 2005 14:48:05 -0700
KFFL has learned Atlanta Falcons CB Kevin Mathis (knee) will miss the remainder of the season after blowing out his knee Wednesday, Sept. 14. He suffered a torn ACL, MCL and PCL.
Burn, bitch.
BWAHAHAHAHAHA
QuoteFalcons | Mathis Injury Could be Career Threatening
Wed, 14 Sep 2005 21:32:48 -0700
Steve Wyche, of the Atlanta Journal-Constitution, reports the knee injury suffered by Atlanta Falcons CB Kevin Mathis (knee) could be a career-threatening injury. He landed awkwardly during practice Wednesday, Sept. 14. As previously noted he tore his anterior cruciate and lateral collateral ligaments and damaged his posterior capsule and his hamstring in his left leg. Surgery will be scheduled soon and he will be placed on the Injured Reserve list. "You hate to lose a player like Kevin because he brings so much to the team on the field and in the locker room," head coach Jim Mora said. "We have to find a way to go on and not make excuses."
BWAHAHAHAHAHA
"You hate to lose a player like Kevin because he brings so much to the team on the field and in the locker room," head coach Jim Mora said. "We have to find a way to go on and not make excuses."
WTF????
And we pray ... :evil
Was this posted somewhere else?
Quote
DT Lavalais among 10 players fined by NFL
September 15, 2005
NEW YORK (Ticker) - Atlanta Falcons defensive tackle Chad Lavalais' helmet-first hit on Philadelphia Eagles quarterback Donovan McNabb on Monday drew the stiffest of 10 fines levied against players from both teams.
On Thursday, the NFL fined Lavalais $7,500 for his hit and Eagles linebacker Jeremiah Trotter and Falcons defensive backs Kevin Mathis and DeAngelo Hall $5,000 each for their roles in a pregame fight.
"It was definitely a learning experience," Hall told ESPNews. "Things got a little bit heated."
With 8:24 left in the first quarter, Lavalais hit the chest of McNabb with his helmet as the quarterback unloaded a deep pass intended for Terrell Owens. The pass was intercepted by Hall and no penalty was called on the play as McNabb remained on the ground wincing in pain.
McNabb did not miss any snaps, completing 24-of-45 passes for 257 yards in a 14-10 loss. However, he is listed as questionable for Sunday's game against San Francisco with a bruised chest.
During pregame warmups, Trotter was jawing with a host of Falcons before Mathis approached and struck him in his facemask, beginning a wild scene at midfield in which players and coaches tried to separate the brawlers.
Trotter and Mathis were ejected after officials consulted the replay monitor. Hall, who was guilty of facemask grabbing and throwing an opponent's helmet to the turf, was not ejected but received the same fine as the primary combatants.
Falcons safeties Keion Carpenter and Kevin McCadam and cornerback-kick returner Allen Rossum were fined $2,500 for being active participants in the melee. Eagles linebackers Keith Adams, Jason Short and Mike Labinjo fined $2,500 for their roles.
Quote from: DemonchildrenOnTurf on September 16, 2005, 11:00:54 AM
Was this posted somewhere else?
Quote from: FFatPatt on September 15, 2005, 03:19:23 PM
We can close the book on this now... (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news?slug=ap-mnf-fines&prov=ap&type=lgns)
Lavalais - $7500 (for hit on McNabb)
Trotter, K. Mathis, D. Hall - $5000 each
K. Carpenter, A. Rossum, K. McCadam, K. Adams, J. Short, M. Labinjo - $2500 each
Yes, Lavalais's hit was illegal. Yes, Hall should have been tossed, but wasn't. Whatever.
Go Eagles. Kill 49ers.
Yep.