SI.com predicts they'll be the worst team in the Eastern Conference and will challenge Minnesota and Charlotte for the worst record overall :yay
I'd love to see the Sixers get a top 3 pick next season, but I think Miller keeps them around the 25-30 win mark which probably puts us at the back end of the lottery again.
OJ Mayo, USC PG
Derrick Rose, Memphis PG
Michael Beasley, Kansas State PF
Maybe Roy Hibbert too
that pf sounds nice. oj mayo is a lunatic.
You mean to tell me that someone with the first name of OJ is nuts? What are the odds?
hibbert is gonna be a horrible pro imo
i cant see the sixers getting anywhere close to 30 wins...unless carney or louis williams become a go to guy...i dont see how they are gonna score...they have no shooters and louis williams whos never really played is their best player at creating his own shot
also dont underestimate the loss of joe smith...he was very valuable and they have replaced him with a rookie
the east is a much better conference this year as well...numerous teams around the sixers have improved while they have regressed
22-24 wins
they played hard last year when there was nothing left to play for, so for that, i will give them a grand total of 31 wins.
Quote from: Sgt PSN on October 31, 2007, 06:36:43 AM
You mean to tell me that someone with the first name of OJ is nuts? What are the odds?
O.J. was innocent.
Quote from: MDS on October 31, 2007, 10:41:05 AM
they played hard last year when there was nothing left to play for, so for that, i will give them a grand total of 31 wins.
they had 35 last year right?...the celtics alone will be a four game difference in wins for the sixers this year
yea. im being generous with that number, but i figure in march and april while some other teams will be tanking, the sixers will play hard.
Samuel Dalembert is so maddening to watch...he's such a lazy defender, it's terrible to watch. Reggie Evans looks like he plays with catchers mitts on.
Reggie Evans is a farging badass.
I think Dalembert shouldn't be allowed to cross the center court line and should just stay on defense, because he is absolutely terrible on offense. He's not a good defender either but he is a good shot blocker.
It appears that Carney isn't playing like a little bitch. Smith was pretty good. No sign of the Thad.
Shrunk a 22 or 23-point deficit to 1 but couldn't come back completely. Entertaining and losing is OK....
John Salmons had 22 points, nine assists and three steals in a start at small forward on Wednesday for the Kings
nba thread dunn dunn
its all about matchups
i watched about half the game and didn't even notice dalembert on the court.
is nba league pass doing some kind of preview right now or am i going to get lucky this year? i had every game available last night.
free preview for a week, son. they do it now and at midseason.
damn it.
Quote from: phattymatty on November 01, 2007, 09:50:49 AM
damn it.
"damn it" would be me forgetting abut the free preview and not watching the game last night
Sixers win an impressive game in Chicago 96-85. Great defensive effort and they dominated the boards. Miller had a team high 25 pts.
just a reminder
sixers need to lose every game
the problem is they play hard and play TEAM BASKETBALL. with limited talent, its a recipe for around 30 wins.
Lost vs Nets. Iguodala foul trouble all night. Lou Will isn't just summer league player. Evans double digit rebounds again. lolz@Korver 11 rebounds.
SUPER. CUP.
Sixers won by 31 :-D
they looked ok last night. the bobcats are really terrible right now.
anyone else still getting the nba league pass preview? because i'm still getting all of the games, and it's awesome. i hope they made some mistake and never figure i out.
Quote from: phattymatty on November 08, 2007, 09:37:39 AM
they looked ok last night. the bobcats are really terrible right now.
anyone else still getting the nba league pass preview? because i'm still getting all of the games, and it's awesome. i hope they made some mistake and never figure i out.
please share. i would love to check it out. is it available on the net?
it's the season nba package on cable. they had a free preview last weekend and i was just wondering if that's still going on or if i am going to get lucky and have it all year.
Quote from: phattymatty on November 08, 2007, 09:37:39 AM
they looked ok last night. the bobcats are really terrible right now.
anyone else still getting the nba league pass preview? because i'm still getting all of the games, and it's awesome. i hope they made some mistake and never figure i out.
My preview ended yesterday. I was going to watch the game but then the order screen came up for $180. Oh well.
Looking at the box score, it appears The Thad played.
nice. mine is still going on.
I paid 2 years in a row for that. shtein is expensive man, but so worth it.
Your a lucky bitch. I would friggin love to have all those games for free. You might just get away with it
yeah i'm loving it. not gonna get my hopes up for it lasting much longer though. although it seems comcast in my town is completely incompetent so my chances are higher than most.
I'm sure it will be gone for the weekend.
ok thanks.
The NBA sucks.
Sixers lose by 21 at home to New Orleans. Didn't watch any of it
2-6
keep on losing
Thad Young is awful. Billy King rules.
you didnt see him play in college and after 8 games of barely playing in the nba youve determined hes awful
he might end up sucking but do you have any idea how many college sophomores or younger have come out and been totally inept their first couple years in the league and then blossomed
i guess he needed the money, because otherwise i don't understand why he wouldn't want to stay in college, play every minute of every game, be the superstar instead of being a DNP anonymous nobody for 70 games this year
yeah calling Thad Young a bust at this point is jumping the gun. I wasn't expecting to see much of anything from him till year 3
sixers were contemplating sending him to the development league and billy king nixed the idea because he thinks its more valuable for him to practice against the sixers players....sure about that billy?
why would you not have him get 35 minutes in the nbad...because hes learning so much by practicing against lou williams?...what a joke
yeah, that's a terrible idea.
although, i'm not sure how much MORE you learn by playing against D league guys over practicing against NBA guys. bottom line is he should've stayed in college, unless he desperately needed the money which very well may have been the case.
Quote from: SunMo on November 15, 2007, 09:44:02 AM
i guess he needed the money, because otherwise i don't understand why he wouldn't want to stay in college, play every minute of every game, be the superstar instead of being a DNP anonymous nobody for 70 games this year
With Stern not allowing high schoolers to jump to the NBA directly, this is what you're going to see from now on.....one year in college and done. And of course he needed the money. They all need the money.
don't be a racist ed
He was mainly talking about Spencer Hawes, racist.
kevin love is straight outta compton
jason smith is straight outta topeka
Locash?
Sixers scored 14 pts. in the 1st qtr. and 13 the next. They didn't score a pt. in the second until there was around 4 minutes left. They were down by 20 or so at the half yet somehow came back to win. Damnit.
Since Korver is out 2 weeks or so it gives the younger wing guys a chance to play. They beat Portland tonight 92-88, took it down to the last minute. Outscored them 36 - 15 the final quarter.
Iguodala 22 points, 4 rebounds, 7 assists, 3 steals, 6 TO. He seriously needs to cut down on his turnovers. He's definitely a good player but his handle is terrible. It's a shame since he's a good passer too.
Lou Williams had 19 points, 4 rebounds, 3 assists, 3 steals, 3 TO in 25 minutes. Statistically it appears he isn't a turnover machine anymore.
Jason Smith 12 points and 4 boards in 24 minutes. Nice.
Thad 7 points and 5 rebounds in 16 minutes. He only had 1 turnover, but his handle is also a big issue. At this point in their rookie careers, he's basically Iguodala with an acceptable jumpshot.
Carney had 5 boards in 13 minutes. It's weird with him, sometimes he'll get 2 boards in 30 minutes or in bunches. Dunno what it is about him.
Writing that much about the 76ers = lol. At least it wasn't about dead end players like Green and Dalembert.
This team's going nowhere this year (hopefully) but it definately seems like they've finally gotten themselves a decent young group of players to build on. Have they rid themselves of all the rediculous contracts they've been carrying over the last couple years or is there still someone on the roster sucking up insane amounts of money?
Quote from: Dillen on November 16, 2007, 09:37:48 PM
He seriously needs to cut down on his turnovers.
its not gonna happen till they get the ball out of andres hands more...they are trying to make him into some kind of pt forward type guy and he cant be that...i like andre miller but hes a terrible one to go along with iguodala cause he a half court set guy...they need a young point that can run the court and get the ball to iggy in transition on the wing....im not saying hes either but iguodala is much more clyde drexler and much less scottie pippen
Quote from: Sgt PSN on November 16, 2007, 10:00:32 PM
Have they rid themselves of all the rediculous contracts they've been carrying over the last couple years or is there still someone on the roster sucking up insane amounts of money?
The only "ridiculous" contract left after this year is Dalembert. They'll have a ton of cap room this summer, presuming they don't waste it all on Iguodala.
dalembert is one of the better all around centers in the nba...his contract is far from ridiculous
I put it in "quotes" because so many people think that he's severely overpaid. I can't stand him, but that doesn't make me blind to the fact that he's at least serviceable. The Sixers could be worse off.
Quote from: Dillen on November 16, 2007, 11:06:57 PM
I put it in "quotes" because so many people think that he's severely overpaid. I can't stand him, but that doesn't make me blind to the fact that he's at least serviceable. The Sixers could be worse off.
people need to look around at the league at what some other players are making and they will see that dalemberts deal is not horrible...i realize the center position in the nba is terrible right now but thats what makes dalembert more valuable than his talent has showed...hes a very good rebounder shot blocker and defender...his offense is pedestrian at best but the guy is gonna probably avg a double double this year...how many other centers in the nba can claim that?
How about this one?
(http://www.dwighthoward.com/images/05HowardDwight02.jpg)
Dook's been playing out of his gourd this year. And he's only gonna get better too.
sucks
Quote from: Dillen on November 16, 2007, 11:06:57 PM
I put it in "quotes" because so many people think that he's severely overpaid. I can't stand him, but that doesn't make me blind to the fact that he's at least serviceable. The Sixers could be worse off.
I didn't mention Dalembert for that specific reason. He's not worth the money that he's making but at the same time, I think the Sixers got him for about the same price that he would have recieved on the open market. The market price is rediculous, not that the Sixers paid it. And I think that if the Sixers ever decided they wanted to trade him, there are probably a few teams out there who'd be willing to pick up the tab on him.
Very good game. 76ers lose to Wizards 116-101.
Williams 25 points, 10-13 shooting, 4-4 from 3, 2 reb, 4 ast and 3 TO in 30 min.
Young 14 points, 7-10 shooting, 5 reb, 2 stl, 1 blk and only 1 TO in 21 min.
Carney 10 points, 5 ast, 1 stl, 1 blk, 1 TO in 21 min.
Andre Miller is killing my fantasy team. Going through the motions all year. Luckily I just picked up Lou Will a couple days ago.
Is Sweet Lou for real?
They allowed Andray Blatche to score 26 with 8 rebounds. Good job, Sammy.
Quote from: Dillen on November 20, 2007, 10:17:57 PM
Very good game.
you couldnt have watched it
i was there and it was one of the worst performances ive ever seen by a team...down 35 in the 3rd quarter to an arenasless bullets team...it was a joke
we want them to lose, so it was a very good game
yeah it looked like the wizards were playing a cyo team last night.
to the wizards credit though, they shot the lights out last night. 3rd quarter shooting was unbelievable.
Quote from: BigEd76 on November 21, 2007, 09:48:02 AM
we want them to lose, so it was a very good game
true
Quote from: Seabiscuit36 on November 20, 2007, 10:25:42 PM
Is Sweet Lou for real?
good question...until he gets more real minutes we wont know...i will say he has an amazing first step...its not iverson quick but he overall his game is eerily reminicient of ai....
mo has to stop giving willie green 30+ minutes a game...he got 38 against the hornets...we know what willie green is....we need to find out exactly what lou williams is
i only want two things out of this season:
1. for boston to not win the nba title
2. top 5 loto ball percentage for the sixers
http://www.phillyburbs.com/pb-dyn/ne...7-1444570.html
Quote"It's the same old thing," Iguodala said. "It's like mass confusion out there on the court. The whole game, we were never really on the same page. They played basic basketball, and we just were awful."
Iguodala pointed to the Sixers' poor spacing on offense, subpar defensive rotations and traps, and said the Sixers "[stink] in practice, too."
"We've got to do something, anything — maybe make a move," Iguodala said. "I don't know. This is getting out of hand. We've got to do something to turn things around. We're not doing a good job as players. Everybody in the organization needs to step up."
QuoteIguodala rolled his eyes when informed that coach Maurice Cheeks said the reserves can't keep "coming in and making up 25 points every night."
they really should trade him and andre miller. its obvious he wants out.
when i started watching it the sixers were down by around 4. when i shut it off the lead was over 30.
iguodala is just salty that he turned down 50+ million with the intention of having a huge year this year and cake off next summer...not knowing how truly awful this team is going to make him look....btw he was the worst player on the floor last night
Mike Beasley on at 9:30 ESPN2. OJ Mayo midnight.
Mayo wasn't Iverson II the last couple games. Really patient.
Sixers lost 78-83 to Detroit. Iguodala another terrible game. Louis Williams and Jason Smith the only young guys to get minutes, LouWill did good and Smith rebounded well. Thad Young had 3 rebounds in 10 minutes.
Golden State tonight. 3-9 hopefully.
:-D I don't get how you would read it so closely to even notice it.
i actually cheered when whats his name drained the 3 to give the gs the game. its pointless for this team to win.
good/sad to see lou wil get the last shot in ot though. figures that he tripped over his own feet and didnt get a shot off.
Kelenna Azubuike - saw him here last month when the lakers were in town for trainig camp and they played GS. granted it was preseason but the guy looked awesome.
Anyone who puts the lower number first in a score should be banned from life.
Quote from: FastFreddie on November 25, 2007, 11:26:09 AM
What's the issue?
Quote from: Dillen on November 24, 2007, 02:37:32 PM
I don't get how you even notice it.
Exaaaaaaaaaactly. Apparently not putting the winner's score first is a bannable offense.
and anyone who doesn't recognize that needs to follow shortly after
Hahaha.
Considering we're actually wasting time on this...
mass group suicide?
that's a given
Go Magic.
The NBA is dead. The 76ers are burning in hell.
from the replays they had a decent crowd there last night. sucks for them.
Quote from: Jerome99RIP on November 25, 2007, 11:40:17 AM
Go Magic.
i hope the next time youre around i forgot i met you again
Quote from: ice grillin you on November 26, 2007, 03:25:38 AM
Quote from: Jerome99RIP on November 25, 2007, 11:40:17 AM
Go Magic.
i hope the next time youre around i forgot i met you again
Truth is we never met the first time. I was hammered by that time and got you confused with Munson. My bad.
Sixers beat the Bucks last night. Iguodala had a good game. Dalembert did pretty well. LouWill had assists. They play the Jazz tonight.
Dill, you serious? 5pm sportscenter update of last nights game...cmon kid
Considering 90% of the Sixers fans here probably get their updates from this board because they're too lazy to go on NBA.com and have realized ESPN is a piece of shtein, I think the post is somewhat necessary.
Iguodala has missed 16 shots in a row
but it doesn't matter. Sixers win by 1 over Washington
bullets blow, what a terrible last possession
Their uniforms are awful
sammy is ballin his ass off lately....team needs to stop winning and get beasly to put next to him
good loss
Sixers play the Hawks tonight.
More importantly, tomorrow on ESPN. 7 PM Michael Beasley. 9:30 PM Derrick Rose vs OJ Mayo.
Another good loss. Less than 80 pts vs the Hawks at home? Awesome
Finally! (http://www.philly.com/philly/sports/20071204_Source__Sixers_to_can_King__replace_him_with_Stefanski.html)
It's coming from Phil Jasner, he's one of the good ones. So I'm guessing it's true.
CSN confirmed it.
and the winner of the worst GM of Philadelphia award now goes to.....
what would die hard say about all of this
didnt know that stefan was a philly guy...nice
Why now?
snider obviosuly thinks the team should be a lot better than they are
i know im in the minority but i dont think billy king did a terrible job...he really was hamstrung after lb bolted...he was stuck with an aging untalented team with a big payroll...thats a death blow in the nba...he had no room to sign anyone of value...he made a bad move in getting webber but he also got rid of him and iverson which will open up all kinds of possibilities starting next summer...so when the sixers have close to the most salary cap space in the nba over the next few years remember that it was largely billy king who made it possible
id give him a C+
I'd give Billy a D+. What IGY said for the reasons. It's amazing how bad this team has been against the cap. I just hope that they start new and clean now
Quote from: ice grillin you on December 04, 2007, 08:10:16 AM
snider obviosuly thinks the team should be a lot better than they are
i know im in the minority but i dont think billy king did a terrible job...he really was hamstrung after lb bolted...he was stuck with an aging untalented team with a big payroll...thats a death blow in the nba...he had no room to sign anyone of value...he made a bad move in getting webber but he also got rid of him and iverson which will open up all kinds of possibilities starting next summer...so when the sixers have close to the most salary cap space in the nba over the next few years remember that it was largely billy king who made it possible
id give him a C+
I actually agree with you 100%
Stefanski is a GREAT scout...he will travel the world to find the right guy, starting with as as young as 15 or 16...that said, realize that the sixers are going to be a bit more foreign than they have been.
As far as making trades, signing FA's, he never had full control over that with the Nets always working as a second fiddle to Thorn, so I cant comment on how he will do in that capacity.
I can tell you that he is definitely well respected through the league.
Im not even about to pat o'l Billy on the back for making this team salary cap heaven. It wasnt all Larry Brown that caused this mess. Plenty of drafts in his tenure that he farged up, and most likely the last one as well. Its about friggin time were are out of cap hell and well deserved after years of misery
Im shocked any GM in any sport could last as long as he did
in five years of drafting king only had two top 20 picks...iguodala which was a big hit and thad who is an open book....before 07 he only had two first rounders total...not exactly the ammo to make a kill...plus dont forget louis williams in the 2nd round...that was a real nice find
the thing with king was by the time he took over the team they were long gone into cap and no talent hell
by no means was he an executive of the year but people hate on him way to much...he was an average nba gm...look around the league and compare his situation to others and see if you really think he was horrible
Billy still signed Korver, Dalembert, Mckie, Coleman and Snow to outrageous contracts. He sucked. F.
The list is endless of why this guy is and now was a horrible GM.
1) horrible decisions on coaches: Ayers, Ford, Cheeks... he even brought back Larry Brown last year. To do what, nobody still knows..
2) bad signings-both to free agent and extentions), overpaying average players and/or jacking up too long of deals, killing our financial flexibility: Greg Buckner, Eric Snow, Aaron Mc Kie, Derrick Coleman, Kenny Thomas, Brian Skinner....
3) bad trades: Van Horn, Glenn Robinson... I'll give him Webber, because we gave up three stiffs to get an all star, and Iverson, because what we got back was ok in my opinion
4)absence of int'l scouting while the NBA was going global. Frachises were bringing in the Yao Mings, the Ginobilis, the Parkers, the Nocionis, and we were getting Efthimios Rentzias, or drafting Edin Bavcic.
5) the best for last--his farging idiotic decision of NOT tanking in the second part of last year = no playoff, no high pick. He lately tried to trade up, and of course couldn't do it.... so what was the purpose of those 30 wins after Iverson was gone?
best part is we got Kevin Ollie on the books for another 3 million...cute
dalembert is one of the better centers in the nba and korver (who also was a good draft pick) is a very good shooter that every team needs...in fact hes the only sixer that can make a shot...plus as far as bad nba contracts go korvers is worth peanuts
his two really big mistakes were webber and kenny thomas...the rest of his moves were pretty much non starters...lateral type moves...the only kind of moves their cap situation would allow
and he made some nice draft picks and did a great job clearing cap space
dont underestimate the moves he didnt make either...over the last two years he could have sacrificed the future by getting big contract guys that would have made the team better in terms of wins short term but would have hurt the franchise long term....he didnt do that....he basically commmitted job suicide by putting the sixers future ahead of his own and ill always respect him for that
reese/cole the fact that you list the webber trade as one of his good moves precludes you from speaking on the topic at hand
he was not a very good gm...but he wasnt satan either...stop jumping on the hate bandwagon because it was/is the cool thing to do
If Snyder thinks this team is better than they are then why fire King? If they have talent then obviously the coaching staff isn't getting them to perform.
I think King has done a wretched job but the timing of this move is what makes no sense. Unless his replacement wasn't cleared to speak to the Sixers until now, why fire him now instead of after last season's debacle?
i agree with that
they should have fired him last year or even two years ago...but once you let him clear all the cap space trade iverson and draft four guys this past year why not give him the opportunity to build a team from scratch....something hes never had a chance to do....the timing is definitely curious
he's mad about the Flyers and had to take out his frustrations somewhere
presser going on now....snider said that they couldnt pass up getting a guy like stefan and that the next year is going to be crucial in the future of the team
basically hes saying he doesnt trust billy king to do this...and wanted someone more experienced...fair enough
they are really building up stefans philly roots...that this is his dream job...philly guy at heart...grew up here...knows the market and the community...still lives here ect..
btw hes gm and president (makes sense since i guess for the nets to let him go hed have to improve his position)...team said he will be involved on the marketing and business side of the organization as well...not sure i like that
omg stefan is giving me incredible funny feelings in my bathing suit area
speedy morris
dunph
luke jackson at the convention center
massimino
harry kalas
chuck daly
jim barniak
chet walker
wilt
zum
eagles
the palestra
prism
all at one time or another have been dropped
says that he is a philly boy thru and thru and lives and dies with all teams...while in nj used to get teased by the ny scumbags about his philly roots...first love was always the sixers
said hes a poster child for philly...should work for the tourism board...theres no place like it in the world
i wanna cry
Quote from: reese125 on December 04, 2007, 09:15:32 AM
Im not even about to pat o'l Billy on the back for making this team salary cap heaven. It wasnt all Larry Brown that caused this mess. Plenty of drafts in his tenure that he farged up, and most likely the last one as well. Its about friggin time were are out of cap hell and well deserved after years of misery
Im shocked any GM in any sport could last as long as he did
You can't knock King for his drafts, Dalembart was taken at the end of the 1st, Iggy was a great pick, Green and Korver if anything are decent players, which is more than you can hope for for a 2nd round pick. Lou Williams isn't looking like a bad 2nd round pick either. It's not like he's had top 10 picks at his disposal and hasn't gotten it done.
His shortcomings have come in the way of contracts. Like when they wanted to retain Green but didn't feel like he was worth the money he wanted, he gets injured and no one wanted him so they should have been able to sign him on the cheap. Instead Billy gets into a bidding war with himself and signs him to a bad long term deal. Bad F/A moves I won't fault him for because he's never had cap space to work with.
no question his drafts were his strong point
but you have to know that reese/cole lives in bizarro world where drafts are his weakness and obtaining bed wetter webber was his best move
Quote from: ice grillin you on December 04, 2007, 11:17:32 AM
they are really building up stefans philly roots...that this is his dream job...philly guy at heart...grew up here...knows the market and the community...still lives here ect..
Sort of like when they hired Jim O'brien, ha.
From the morning papers and comcast sportrise it sounded as if he was content with where he was. Those types usually make better GM's, they're not out to conquer the world and make sound decisions instead of drastic ones that don't pay off.
Quote from: ice grillin you on December 04, 2007, 10:37:43 AM
reese/cole the fact that you list the webber trade as one of his good moves precludes you from speaking on the topic at hand
he was not a very good gm...but he wasnt satan either...stop jumping on the hate bandwagon because it was/is the cool thing to do
wait--first hes not a very good GM, but your ok with him. Yeah, makes sense. Living in the cellar is something you must be used to, because I dont know how many people share that sentiment.
Who you kidding flip-flop boy, you got all excited pounding 40's with your wannabe homies at the dollar store when you heard King got Webber. The city, the radio, the media all were excited and thought King actually pulled a good move. I know, I know...not you...please
(http://www.nba.com/media/nets/stefanski_head.jpg)
While in college, Ed originated and secured the funding for the Philadelphia Housing Authority's Inner City Basketball League, which provided a structured basketball environment for hundreds of boys and girls who lived under the auspices of the Housing Authority. Ed was involved in all facets of the league, including scheduling, transportation, finances and game management. At the conclusion of his two-year involvement with the project, more than 500 boys and girls comprising more than 20 teams had been the beneficiaries of Ed's hard work and determination. The Housing Authority cited his efforts with a special recognition award, commending his efforts and contributions to the children of Philadelphia.
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Quote from: reese125 on December 04, 2007, 11:41:03 AM
wait--first hes not a very good GM, but your ok with him.
where did i ever say i was ok with him
Quote from: reese125 on December 04, 2007, 11:41:03 AM
you got all excited pounding 40's with your wannabe homies at the dollar store when you heard King got Webber. The city, the radio, the media all were excited and thought King actually pulled a good move. I know, I know...not you...please
you sure about this??
QuoteI know im in the minority but i dont think billy king did a terrible job.
translation=your ok with him
Quote
you sure about this??
positive
if i cared enough id find my post on the EMB the day of the trade destroying webber and the deal
this is the perfect snapshot of me and you...i called the deal shtein when it happened and was right...where as you have the luxury of hindisght and you STILL get it wrong
you sir are pretty much as dumb as it gets
so Im not invited to Christmas dinner this year? farged up
King sucked. Should have been fired a couple of years ago. Go team.
Billy King had good success in the drafts, but that was more due in part to the scouting team than King. Also DiLeo had a big hand too. King didn't really do the leg work in scouting these players. He was basically told who they like and what the best options are and Billy makes the final call. Still, you gotta give him credit. He made good picks.
I also don't think the Webber deal was bad either. If we didn't trade for Webber, we'd still have Skinner and Kenny Thomas under contract and wouldn't have nearly the same amount of cap room for the offseason.
I don't trust him with contracts though or just in trades in general. I also don't think he has a lot of respect around the league. I think teams know they can rip him off and hold out on trades with him. I think a more respected GM could've gotten more for Iverson than King did. Teams just wouldn't budge with that King wanted, because they knew he'd cave eventually.
Stekanski is on DNL right now
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Quote from: reese125 on December 04, 2007, 12:23:56 PM
so Im not invited to Christmas dinner this year? farged up
christmas dinner? wtf! i thought we were having a banquet.
I'm happy. He appeared to want a real high pick this year. He threw in the required "I hope we start winning some games" but just continued to talk about how a high pick will really help.
I hope trading Iggy and Miller are part of the high draft pick plan
82-83 butter joints being rocked tonight
Quote from: ice grillin you on December 05, 2007, 04:55:03 PM
82-83 butter joints being rocked tonight
Best uniforms ever. Jesus - talk about old school.
They unis look amazing.
The new GM should rule they go back to these. I LOOOVE them.
LMFAO at the flashback of PRISM and Stefanski and Zumoff with full heads of hair reporting for "Ivy League Basketball" Penn/Princeton game in the 80s.
Another good loss although I'd rather them win over the Celtics even if it hurts their draft status
The Celtics season is a failure unless they win it all. It's a formality until at least the EC Finals.
nice
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i didn't see the game. so does this pic end ugly or does he actually dunks on KG.
if kg wasnt there it wouldnt be a dunk
those jerseys are sick...i have a red moses but never been able to find the white for cheap...i wonder if they will be selling replicas of those
yea those jerseys are sick. its a shame the eagles dont have cool throwbacks to wear, but i guess we should just be thankful that mr. lurie gave us a team in the first place.
stefan was on ESPN Radio yesterday ( i think it was the steven a smith show here in NYC) and again he mentioned how he hopes they can get more wins but losing only helps the lottery pick.
i mean im all for the sixers getting the best pick but to publicly state that over and over?
other than that the guy seems like the right type of guy. i remember when pat croce (sp?) took over with all the excitement and enthusiam...this guy seems similar. hope he can turn it around.
Publicly that might not be the right thing to say but I'm glad he thinks that way. They need to tank and get a top 5 pick, no more of this 30 win 12th pick shtein where they get developmental guys like Young and Carney. I hope he trades Miller and Iggy away sooner than later so it makes the team that much worse.
Stop with the trading Iggy thing. Seriously.
yeah i dont quite get sd's urgency to trade iguodala
I have no problem building a team around him. I think he's awesome and would be even better with somewhat of a supporting cast.
you cant build a team around him...hes not that kind of player...in fact imo its the exact opposite as he would be the perfect guy to play next to a superstar...in fact he reminds me a lot of scotie pippen...lock down the opponents wing scorer and finish at the rim on the other end...
iguodala is not close to the passer that pippen was tho and as far as being the number one option on a team he doesnt have near the handle to be able to pull that off
what would help him tremendously would be to play with a full court up and down point guard that he could run with fill lanes and finish....thats where he would ansolutely flourish....him and andre miller are the basketball oil and water
he's not close to what pippen was defensively either...other than that, the comparison is spot on
So other than the fact that he can't pass or play defense HE'S JUST LIKE SCOTTIE PIPPEN! Oh my god!
they are both great defenders on par with each other...pippen had the luxury of playin on an unbelievable defensive team
there will never be another team like the bulls where they had the best player in the league (and ever) who was also the best defensive player in the league...so not only could they surround him with defensive players but he was better than them all...imagine the 01 sixers with iverson being the best one on one defender in the nba...i mean jesus the bulls used ron harper as a defensive stopper and could dedicate the 4 and 5 positions as 100% rebound and defend spots..
those teams flawlessly switched and helped like no other team ive ever seen...not taking away anything from pippen but he was certainly made better by that situation...imo in the right situation iguodala could be every bit the defender pippin was
There's an article in the new ESPN magazine about Iguodala. It is pretty much the most useless article of all time. The only thing I didn't know was that he bowls with Louis Williams and Herb Hill.
Quote from: ice grillin you on December 07, 2007, 02:23:38 PM
you cant build a team around him...hes not that kind of player...in fact imo its the exact opposite as he would be the perfect guy to play next to a superstar...in fact he reminds me a lot of scotie pippen...lock down the opponents wing scorer and finish at the rim on the other end...
iguodala is not close to the passer that pippen was tho and as far as being the number one option on a team he doesnt have near the handle to be able to pull that off
what would help him tremendously would be to play with a full court up and down point guard that he could run with fill lanes and finish....thats where he would ansolutely flourish....him and andre miller are the basketball oil and water
He's more athletic than Pippen but doesn't possess Pippen's intangibles. He's a good player that will sign a contract for far more than he's worth. I'd rather get value for him, trade Miller too, tank, get a top 5 pick, then add someone in free agency.
you cant say hes not that good then say another team will give value for him...those two things are in contrast with each other...
especially with him becoming a free agent....that lowers his value even more
Quote from: ice grillin you on December 07, 2007, 07:08:19 PM
you cant say hes not that good then say another team will give value for him...those two things are in contrast with each other...
especially with him becoming a free agent....that lowers his value even more
Quote from: SD_Eagle on December 07, 2007, 06:30:05 PM
He's a good player
I'd like to see him and Miller packaged. A creative GM could get good value for them.
then ill ask why would you wanna deal a good player...a number one pick that this team developed...they arent exactly stocked with talent why would you wanna deal their second best player (i know this place is dalembert hater central but admit it or not hes the best player on the team and hes actually the one that you would get good value on)
i don't see the dalembert thing at all. i guess somebody has to be the best player on this team, but i really don't see what you see.
a lot of it has to do with his position...granted hes not a great player but hes still one of the best centers in the nba and doesnt make obscene money...on the open market he would def garner more interest than iguodala...and i like both
Quote from: ice grillin you on December 07, 2007, 10:13:55 PM
then ill ask why would you wanna deal a good player...a number one pick that this team developed...they arent exactly stocked with talent why would you wanna deal their second best player (i know this place is dalembert hater central but admit it or not hes the best player on the team and hes actually the one that you would get good value on)
I don't think he's going to get much better. As for Dalembart I'm fine with him for now, once he gets some help he'll be that much better.
Bad win tonight
you dont think iguodala would improve with a better team around him one with a running point guard and better defensively....on a team where he wouldnt have to worry about handling the ball as much and he could concentrate on defense and getting out on the break....i think he would improve leaps and bounds and youd have one of the best defenders in the nba and one of the best finishers....thats an invaluable piece of a championship team
if thad young can develop an offensive game and i dont see why he cant hes gonna be real nice too...hes already a good defender and one day i think will be a great one...the sixers need a PF that has been obvious for a while now but almost as much as that they need guys that know how to play defense from 8-18 feet
Quote from: ice grillin you on December 08, 2007, 08:33:46 AM
you dont think iguodala would improve with a better team around him one with a running point guard and better defensively....on a team where he wouldnt have to worry about handling the ball as much and he could concentrate on defense and getting out on the break....i think he would improve leaps and bounds and youd have one of the best defenders in the nba and one of the best finishers....thats an invaluable piece of a championship team
No
Every single player who played had a good game yesterday. Beat Knicks 105 - 77.
Thad Young 7-9 shooting, 14 points, 5 boards in 19 minutes.
Jason Smith 4-5 shooting, 8 points, 9 boards in 24 minutes. He had a ridiculous dunk over someone on a fastbreak too.
beat the Rockets by 11 and it wasn't that close (they were up by 26 after 3)
I finally got to see a game and I loved that they wore the throwbacks again. I want one of those.
3 in a row. they don't look too bad lately.
i wish they would wear the throwbacks all year. they are the hotness.
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there is nothing awful about those unis...understated, great lettering, awesome logo
Quote from: ice grillin you on December 07, 2007, 10:48:56 PM
a lot of it has to do with his position...granted hes not a great player but hes still one of the best centers in the nba and doesnt make obscene money...on the open market he would def garner more interest than iguodala...and i like both
one of the best centers in the NBA? Christ. Hes a hack with an occasional ooooh and aaah. You can put any other average big man in the his spot in the league and he would do the same if not better
I can easily name you ten ahead of him
Go ahead.
Shaq
Howard
Okur
Ilguaskus
Camby
Curry
Ben Wallace
T Chandler
Ming
Stoudamire
Biedrin
Kaman
and you could put more
Okur? stop...he's barely a power forward, much less a center
Ilguaskus is done, he can barely run
Curry sucks
Chandler is not better than Dalembert
Kaman and Biedrin? please
No matter if you think they are done....they are still better and play ten times smarter than Dalembert.
Your going to tell me Kaman and Chandler are not better than Dalembert? Wow
i'm not even a huge Dalembert fan, but i think that list a tremendous stretch...
Quote from: SunMo on December 11, 2007, 02:02:40 PM
Chandler is not better than Dalembert
Kaman and Biedrin? please
.....
maybe Biedrins and Chandler are on the same level, but you are saying that Kaman is worse than Dalembert? Are you serious? I especially liked the "please" part as if it wasn't even close. I would agree with you...just on the other side.
Dalembert 10.9 points, 8.8 rebounds, 2.2 blocks
Kaman 18.5 points, 13.7 rebounds, 3 blocks
Chandler 11.5 points, 11.1 rebounds, 1.4 blocks
Biedrins 11 points, 10 rebounds, 1.5 blocks
kaman is def better than dalembert
half the other people you named arent centers and dalembert is better or as good as the others...like i said originally hes one of the better centers in the nba...and again i repeat myself for the reading challenged...that isnt saying much because the center position is a joke....but you could do a ton worse than have sammy as your starting nba center and i welcome him as part of the rebuilding phase of this team...at the same time if you feel as tho you can improve greatly at that position then you do it...but the hate on the guy (and his contract) are ridiculous
I can see you never touched a basketball in your life. Thats ok IGY/Munson. Read along.
Half of those players are not centers? Id love to hear your definition of a center then. Please enlighten me how Dalembert is better than those listed. Actually, dont bother--its pointless. Like I said, I could easily name more players that are better.
Dalemberts abilities could easily be matched by these guys if need be:
Nene, A.Bogut, J.Przybilla, A.Bargnani, Z.Pachulia, E.Dampier/D.Diop, B.Miller, A. Bynum, B.Haywood, I.Diogu
The hate is because his consistent mental mistakes--to be names STILL at this stage in the game are ridiculous. You can only have so much hope and he is what he is. Kind of like yourself--who knows squat about basketball
sixers win again
sammy was a block away from a triple double
18-11-9
is rodney carney hurt again? he wasnt even listed in the box score, even under dnp-cd.
From today's Inky:
QuoteSixers forward Rodney Carney sat out with the flu
my god---watching that game last night makes you not want to ever watch a Sixers game again. Every person that touched the ball decided to drive to the basket....no matter what. It looked like a JV game
i got the quickest last channel trigger finger ever on the sixer and flyer games right now
sammy = the godfather
Sammy was a beast tonight
Pretty good article on Stefanski:
QuoteSixers call on one of Philly's own
By Adrian Wojnarowski, Yahoo! Sports
December 13, 2007
John Nash pleaded with Ed Stefanski to let go of his midlife crises. Stay out of the basketball business, he told him. And what about those four boys you need to get through college? His old friend had a successful mortgage business, a cushy college basketball television job, a good, balanced life in Philadelphia.
"He was giving up a lucrative career for what could've been a short-lived NBA experience," Nash said. "I tried to dissuade him."
Eight years ago, Stefanski told Nash, then the Nets GM, that he wanted to make this leap of faith before it was too late in life. He told Nash to keep him in mind. Nash had always believed Stefanski had the beautiful basketball mind and the iron will to validate those in the New Jersey front office questioning, Who is this guy?
Now, Nash said, "he's exceeded my wildest expectations for him."
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How about Stefanski's own? The 76ers brought Stefanski home as president and general manager to restore their lost cause. There are dream jobs, and there is Stefanski, the old Penn Quakers guard for Chuck Daly, the Catholic league coach at Monsignor Bonner High School, getting the offer to run the franchise of his childhood. The Sixers chose Stefanski in the 10th round of the 1976 NBA Draft, cut him and he figured the rest of his life would be spent rooting for them.
Running them?
Never.
"I die with every Philadelphia team," Stefanski said. "I love this place."
This doesn't make him basketball's Vince Papale, or basketball's Balboa, but his story is still something of a longshot considering it was just 2000 when Nash hired him as a New Jersey scout. All around town, Philadelphians love that one of their own has been entrusted with the family store. Philadelphia basketball is the ultimate closed club in sports, a tight fraternity that transcends preps to the pros.
So far, Stefanski hasn't made big, bold promises and torn into Billy King's flawed regime. Bad contracts here? Well, every team has them, he said. Most new general managers and coaches love to go on and on about how bad of a circumstance they've inherited, just so they can get more credit if they win and deflect blame if they don't.
Stefanski hasn't sold himself as a savior because there are none wearing suits in the front office. You work hard, take smart risks and get a little lucky. That's how it goes upstairs. That's true for everyone.
"The bottom line is personnel," Stefanski said.
All he's known with the Nets is living on the road, punching his passport through Europe and driving dirt roads to small gyms in the boondocks. Stefanski played an immense part in the Nets' Eastern Conference rise, a bird-dog evaluator and a shrewd trader with far more hits than misses. Nets president Rod Thorn is responsible for the Jason Kidd trade, but little else about the franchise's ascent – the trading for Richard Jefferson and Vince Carter, the drafting of Nenad Krstic – happened without Stefanski's wisdom and judgment.
Philadelphia is one of those major Eastern markets the NBA needs to get back. The Sixers have made the playoffs in the lousy East only once since 2003, but a core of young players, a tradable point guard, Andre Miller, and a possible $14 million in salary cap space next summer, offer an opportunity to rise out of the rubble. Mo Cheeks isn't automatically a lame duck because Stefanski's ego isn't large enough to make him hire his own coach.
As for owner Ed Snider's consultant, Larry Brown, his nebulous position with the Sixers will quietly diminish and evaporate. If Brown was waiting to coach Philadelphia again, that'll never happen. Where does Brown go next? With the baggage he brings out of his most recent stops in New York, Detroit and Team USA, the risk-reward has changed. Once, everyone believed he was worth the trouble.
"Now, it'll take a desperate owner to hire him," one Western Conference executive said.
For now, Stefanski judges the risk-reward of holding onto Miller, the cost to re-sign Andre Iguodala and the young Sixers players worth staking his franchise's future. Between now and those choices Nash, a past Sixers GM himself, sees Stefanski winning one thing for sure: The trust of a basketball community that had come to scorn the 76ers.
"I'm not sure people coming from the outside are as aware," Nash said, "but Eddie has such an advantage because of his great feel for the area, the tradition. The Sixers haven't done a good job remaining connected with the alumni, and Eddie is making every effort to reach out. He'll get them back."
In the end, they'll judge him on winning basketball games. A frustrated old Eagles and Phillies fan himself, the new president and GM understands that truth. For Philly GM's, life can get downright nasty. Just remember, Ed Stefanski decided to give up comfortable a long time ago.
So another early teens pick seems likely...what the hell.
After looking at the box score, I guess this one was all on Dalembert. No young guys had noteworthy games.
yeah sammy owned this game...if he could just show better consistency hed be an all star...he needs to piece together numerous good games in a row...to many of these games followed by four pts and seven rebounds the next night
Quote from: Dillen on December 15, 2007, 10:25:15 PM
So another early teens pick seems likely...what the hell.
After looking at the box score, I guess this one was all on Dalembert. No young guys had noteworthy games.
I'd like to see Thad get some more minutes, he hasn't done bad when he's been in. The sixers are actually in playoff contention so they'll go all out. Sammy is probably the most underrated athlete in this city.
totally agree on thad...and lou williams...i said this on the thread a few weeks ago that willie green gets way to many minutes....take some of his run and spread it around
Iguodala's shot at the buzzer was #1 on SportsCenter's Top 10. They included Zumoff screaming into the mic.
Willie Green didn't suit up yesterday? Nice. I like that Thad is getting minutes now.
If the Sixers end up in the 9-13 pick range like they would now, there should be a number of good big men there. Darrell Arthur, Brook Lopez, Devon Hardin, and Kevin Love.
sixers are on right now on nba tv for anyone that has it
i just happened to turn on Comcast and saw them on...wtf with the 6pm start?
holiday week and its a get a way game
Miami is awful. Shaq is cooked. Wade started to turn it on then the Sixers turned up the D and went on a run. Booth had a good night.
76ers beat Kings 93-80.
Dalembert had a really good game once again. Carney started and did nothing. Lou Williams had a good game even though he was 1-7 shooting. Thad Young is always really efficient when he plays, 3-4 6 pts and 5 boards in 15 minutes. Jason Smith did really well, hit a corner 3 and had a dunk on a fastbreak.
yeah dont look now but thad is progressing nicely and has really be nice over the last few weeks
carney really does blow
if lou williams ever develops a jumper look out..the guys first step is sick and he can get to the basket against anyone
the godfather has been fantastic so far...when hes not in foul trouble he is a beast out there...its been a long time since ive seen a center get off the floor as quick as he does...its uncanny
I fell asleep in the beginning of the 4th but was pretty sure they were going to pull out a W. I'm happy Mo's giving Thad some more playing time.
Korver traded to Utah for a 1st and a player, not sure who. This is per WIP.
whoa...really?
Player is Gordan Giricek (http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/players/profile?playerId=273). He's due to make 4 million this year then hits F/A. So Stefanski got a 1st and cleared $4 million for Korver. Not a bad first move although the sixers are in playoff contention so the timing is a little strange I guess.
Of course WIP is nothing but Eagles talk right now, go figure.
decent move. korver can only shoot 3's and he's vastly overpaid.
No shtein....good move. :yay
utah is a lottery team right now...
strange...the sixers highest pick might not be their own
There's rumors that the pick might be New York's unprotected 2010 pick
QuoteSixers trade Korver
By Marc Narduci - Inquirer Staff Writer
In an effort to create more salary cap space, the 76ers traded Kyle Korver today to the Utah Jazz for Gordan Giricek and a first round draft pick.
Giricek, who is making $4 million this season, has an expiring contract.
Korver, who is earning nearly $4.4 million this year, has $15.4 million owed to him in the next three years after this one.
The first round pick is protected, according to Sixers president and general manager Ed Stefanski.
The pick can start in 2009 and the Sixers have seven years in which to make it. There are different protections for each year, according to Stefanski.
Teams protect picks in case they are in the situation to receive a high choice, thus not losing it.
Stefanski estimated that the Sixers are $10 million under next year's salary cap, which may be the most room any team has in the league.
"We felt this was a move for the plan that we have made to look to try to secure cap space in the summer," Stefanski said via conference calls. "The pick could be a player or a chip in a future trade."
As for how Giricek will fit into the team, Stefanski says that it will be up to coach Maurice Cheeks.
Still, Stefanski said that Korver's trade benefits four players as far as receiving more playing time – Thaddeus Young, Willie Green, Rodney Carney and Lou Williams.
Like Korver, Giricek is known as a perimeter shooter. This season he has had scant playing time and is averaging 4.3 points per game.
Korver, who has had an up and down season, has is averaging 10 points.
Ironically, the Sixers and will meet the Jazz Wednesday in Utah.
Giricek is expected to join the Sixers for Sunday's game in Portland against the Trail Blazers.
Stefanski, realizing that Korver was among the most popular players with his teammates and the fans,
"Kyle, even though I haven't been personally here in his career, I've seen his work from afar and he is a good basketball player that you hate to lose," Stefanski said. "Besides a good basketball player, he is better as a person."
Stefanski said that Korver took the news with class.
"He was gracious," Stefanski said. "He is a terrific young man."
The white man gets screwed again.
Another SG/SF slot opens up and Thad gets even more time. Pretty good trade. Korver is useless for the team at this point.
Actually isn't that what Giricek is? All I know is he has had a billion knee surgeries.
QuoteThe first round pick is protected, according to Sixers president and general manager Ed Stefanski.
The pick can start in 2009 and the Sixers have seven years in which to make it. There are different protections for each year, according to Stefanski.
So we could see an extra pick in 2013? Awesome.
the fact that its a protected pick says that this trade was all about salary dumping
Told you guys Stefanski loves the foreign players...
Good trade over all with the future in mind. Yeah, the Sixers are in playoff "contention" right now but if they make it, it will be like when the Eagles rallied last year and won the division. It was great at the time but kind of not really what they needed (screwed themselves out of a high draft pick) not to mention that the were no real threat to get to or even win the SB. Same thing goes for the Sixers right now. Even if they get in the playoffs, they aren't going anywhere and they definately won't beat just about any team the West sends there.
Korver's a nice guy to have on a championship caliber team (think Steve Kerr with Bulls and Spurs) and the Sixers are nowhere near that. At least now by having the extra 1st round pick, it won't hurt them quite so bad if they do manage to dumb themselves into the playoffs.
i may be crazy but didn't we already have giricek at one point for a few minutes.
also, why salary dump now when they're already set up now with a lot of cap space.
also, who cares, farg korver. i have no problems with this.
Quote from: phattymatty on December 30, 2007, 01:33:18 AM
also, why salary dump now when they're already set up now with a lot of cap space.
the more i thought about this last night the more i think stefanski has seen all he needs to of korver and he isnt impressed...korver doesnt make a ton of money so by basically giving him away its eddie screaming "you stink son"...dont get me wrong he likes dumping his money too but in the end it has more to do with korver as a player than with the salary
Quote from: phattymatty on December 30, 2007, 01:33:18 AM
i may be crazy but didn't we already have giricek at one point for a few minutes.
also, why salary dump now when they're already set up now with a lot of cap space.
also, who cares, farg korver. i have no problems with this.
I think you're thinking of Hornicek.
More cap space is great.....as long as they use it (wisely). Getting the extra 1st rounder doesn't hurt either.
Yes.
Quote from: ice grillin you on December 30, 2007, 05:23:21 AM
Quote from: phattymatty on December 30, 2007, 01:33:18 AM
also, why salary dump now when they're already set up now with a lot of cap space.
the more i thought about this last night the more i think stefanski has seen all he needs to of korver and he isnt impressed...korver doesnt make a ton of money so by basically giving him away its eddie screaming "you stink son"...dont get me wrong he likes dumping his money too but in the end it has more to do with korver as a player than with the salary
Possibly, yeah. I mean...all he does is hit from beyond the arc. His defense is non-existent and his season thus far has been nondescript.
But they way I look at it is Stefanski has flipped a low, low #2 into a #1. That's a win and the bonus is the salary dump. Even though they have a lot of cap space, a little more can't hurt. Especially now they don't have Billy there to give crazy deals to guys like Kenny Thomas.
Exactly. Getting a 1st round pick for Ashton alone makes it a good deal.
Quote from: Sgt PSN on December 30, 2007, 10:27:27 AM
I think you're thinking of Hornicek.
Ha. No I'm not. I thought I remembered him and the Sixers in some kind of draft day trade, but whatever.
The more I think about this trade I like it. I think Miller is next.
I haven't gotten to see a single game yet this year, but how's Miller's play been? He's old and overpaid but I know once upon a time he was a damn good player. He was pretty good last year from what I remember. Plus, there's a ton of youth on this team right now and I think a steady veteran presence would be beyond beneficial outside of his nightly stat line.
Quote from: phattymatty on December 30, 2007, 10:50:04 AM
Quote from: Sgt PSN on December 30, 2007, 10:27:27 AM
I think you're thinking of Hornicek.
Ha. No I'm not. I thought I remembered him and the Sixers in some kind of draft day trade, but whatever.
The more I think about this trade I like it. I think Miller is next.
You might be thinking of Jiri Welsch
or Dino Radja. f'ing Boston.
Quote from: phattymatty on December 30, 2007, 01:33:18 AM
also, why salary dump now when they're already set up now with a lot of cap space.
There have been people saying that after re-signing Iguodala and Williams they'll only have around 6 or 7 million left. Not sure if it's true but it's a big reason most likely.
Quote from: Sgt PSN on December 30, 2007, 11:08:08 AM
I haven't gotten to see a single game yet this year, but how's Miller's play been? He's old and overpaid but I know once upon a time he was a damn good player. He was pretty good last year from what I remember. Plus, there's a ton of youth on this team right now and I think a steady veteran presence would be beyond beneficial outside of his nightly stat line.
He isn't really that overpaid when you consider what the other PGs (that aren't on their rookie contracts) are gettnig. He started off slowly but he's back to playing really well. He's on my fantasy team and he's averaging something like 15 4 and 7.
So do you think they should trade him or keep him around?
I'm indifferent. He does help the young players but I want to see Williams go full time eventually too.
miller needs to go...he makes the team better but he doesnt develop the youngins because of his style of play...the sixers are clearly made to get up and down the court and miller is a half court point guard surrounded by get out and run wing guys...not to mention a center that can move and is utterly clueless with his back to the baskett...
that being said him or the godfather has been the teams best player this year...andre has played really well
ha just when we are killing carney dunny has 11 pts with three minutes left first half
Portland keeps on rolling
Sixers face the Oklahoma City Durants tomorrow
outscored 35-9 in the 4th quarter...ha
abortion isnt the word for what happened in that 4th quarter
if im not mistaken they were up 61-56 and lost 97-72
dont tell me the "outlaw" on portland is bo
travis
He didn't play and the Sixers were outscored in 3 quarters but still won
Not sure if anyone caught it on the news, but Korver decided to rip the Sixers on his way out. Says he's glad to have a real practice facility unlike that dump PCOM, then he says the Sixers didn't involve him in the offense enough. Whatever...
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Jesus. That dude's legs are skinnier that mine.
Lou Will got to the line 14 times in 21 minutes last night. 19 points and 4 steals.
"We're happy with our team and will see what happens in the summer, but I am not shopping Andre Miller around the league."
Stefanski said that as of now, he projected the Sixers to be about $10 million under the salary cap next year. This season's cap is $55.6 million.
That might not sound like much, but it's likely more than any other NBA team will have. Of course, the Sixers could go even further under the cap if Miller were dealt for a player with an expiring contract, but Stefanski does not seem to be thinking in those terms.
"We like the players we have on our team now, and Andre Miller is an integral part of our team, the glue of the team, who happens to make other players better," Stefanski said.
There is no bigger fan of Jason Kidd's than Stefanski, who had a close relationship with the point guard during their days together in New Jersey. Kidd is a future Hall of Famer, which makes Stefanski's next comment telling.
"I happened to be around a Jason Kidd, and you see a Steve Nash, and Andre Miller is that kind of guy," Stefanski said. "He makes players better."
It is no secret that the Sixers are looking for a high-scoring power forward, either through free agency or a trade.
If the Sixers upgrade at that position, then Miller, who will be 32 in March and is signed through 2008-09, will become even more valuable to keep. And since his game is not predicated on speed or quickness, there should be no reason he cannot remain at a high level for four or five years.
"For us to take that next step to that next level, Andre Miller would be a nice player to have on the team," Stefanski said.
While a cynic may call that Stefanski's way to drive up the asking price, he has seen in about a month on the job how many ways Miller can contribute and how he has been a good influence with his selfless attitude.
He would be a fool not to entertain offers, and Im sure he will regardless of what he is saying. Miller would be the key trade in getting this team in great shape for the future. Hes playing really well, getting guys in position to score with some nice passes inside, and finding the cutter on a regular basis. Other teams could use him/that to get them over the hump...not the Sixers unfortunately
Get it done.
After the Korver trade teams were probably in the mindset that the Sixers were trying to move players for cap space. Not sure if they thought the Sixers could have gotten more for Korver and figured they could swing a similar deal with Miller, but this is Stefanski's way of saying we're not just going to dump Miller for some cap relief and a 1st round pick which we'll probably never see. He wants some good value in return.
agree
110-107 Sixers lose. Sammy was clearly hacked twice and got no call on that last possession. Korver played a typical Korver game.
Dalembert has been trash recently. Sixers lost by 31 to the Lakers.
Lou Will 8-14 for 17 points.
Jason Smith 10 points 9 boards.
Thad 8-12 for 16 points and 9 boards.
Iverson wins again
2-4 road trip
I only watched the 3rd but that was plenty
AI dropped 38
ai is my hero
Quote from: Dillen on January 05, 2008, 02:57:25 PM
Dalembert has been trash recently. Sixers lost by 31 to the Lakers.
Lou Will 8-14 for 17 points.
Jason Smith 10 points 9 boards.
Thad 8-12 for 16 points and 9 boards.
Hes one of the best centers in the league though..ha
he actually is....typical clueless sports fan of you to ride off another cats message board post...especially when he had a big game tonight
ill say it one more time...watch actual games instead of reading message board posts of people you dont know
and again..no hes not
shows you how slick you are Baltimore boy, I watch every Philly sports game, and I have the NBA package. When you ride the nuts off of one center in Philly--the only one you have ever watched--and claim he is one of the best centers in the league...says all too much
and when you say Memet Okur is better, that really says all that needs to be said
Mo, please just go look at the career stats, but most importantly you need to watch other games as well.
Okur is not lights out and not "one of the best" by any means, but is more versatile--and yes sadly Id rather have him (with other help needed) than Dalembert. His minutes are down a little because of Kirilenko's and Boozers presence, but when he was in there with he absence of them due to injury, he produced consistently--unlike the ever inconsistent Sammy
When your one of the best in the league, your not expendable--Dalembert is and should be with some value in return
i don't care about career stats, you could ask any gm in the league who they'd rather have as their starting center and every one would pick dalembert...not even a question
depends on what the team GM is looking for. If you want some points, rebounds with a couple of blocks--sure, Sammy is your guy.
If you want a middle man who can swing it to the outside from the post, get you points and rebounds in the paint, run the fast break, shoot the 3(which is crazy to think and not usually needed) and play with some intelligence--you take Okur
Okur is not overwhelmingly better but IMO, he is....and comparing these two players hurts and is truly meaningless
Quote from: ice grillin you on January 06, 2008, 11:38:56 PM
he actually is....typical clueless sports fan of you to ride off another cats message board post...especially when he had a big game tonight
ill say it one more time...watch actual games instead of reading message board posts of people you dont know
He's a good player. I don't know how he could be considered a top center since he's so inconsistent. He gets more consistent he's a top center. He still has too many games where he is absolutely not a factor.
Dalembert = Good Player
The reason why could be considered a "top" center is because there aren't many true centers around the league anymore. The days of Wilt, Kareem, Russell, Ewing, Hakeem, etc are long gone.
And furthermore, no one cares.
Troof.
Quote from: Dillen on January 07, 2008, 04:48:33 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on January 06, 2008, 11:38:56 PM
he actually is....typical clueless sports fan of you to ride off another cats message board post...especially when he had a big game tonight
ill say it one more time...watch actual games instead of reading message board posts of people you dont know
He's a good player. I don't know how he could be considered a top center since he's so inconsistent. He gets more consistent he's a top center. He still has too many games where he is absolutely not a factor.
yeah hes a good player certainly not anywhere close to a great one...i never said otherwise...hes one of the best centers in the nba because the centers suck in the nba..i also have never said otherwise...
all im saying is he gets way to much hate by people who dont know the game (reese) and also that his contract is not nearly as bad as some people would like to believe...and youre right consistency is definitely his problem...he needs to show up every night like he did in that piston series a couple years ago...still hes come light years from where he used to be and you could do a whole lot worse than having the godfather as your starting center...
lol @ mehmet okur...its an embarrassment to even call him a center...hes a soft as a babys ass jump shooting small forward in a power forwards body who doesnt play a lick of d and would rather shoot a three pointer than block a shot
Okur rules (http://youtube.com/watch?v=65dwHOZChoY)
Quoteall im saying is he gets way to much hate by people who dont know the game (reese) and also that his contract is not nearly as bad as some people would like to believe.
I love how all of your rebuttals are that another person doesnt know a sport when your wrong...and yes IGY..its ok to be wrong in life...but when your an egomaniac like yourself, its tough to realize. No worries
Just keep telling people in conversation how Sam Dalembert is one of the best centers in the league. They'll believe. Until then, Sam D will just keep attempting 18ft jumpers 4 times a game in hopes they go in.
Quotelol @ mehmet okur...its an embarrassment to even call him a center...hes a soft as a babys ass jump shooting small forward in a power forwards body who doesnt play a lick of d and would rather shoot a three pointer than block a shot
couldnt agree more..but its even more of an embarrassment he is slightly better than Dalembert at the position--intelligence and consistency alone
Quote from: reese125 on January 08, 2008, 01:55:19 PM
Quoteall im saying is he gets way to much hate by people who dont know the game (reese) and also that his contract is not nearly as bad as some people would like to believe.
I love how all of your rebuttals are that another person doesnt know a sport when your wrong
theres nothing else to say to people like you who dont even watch sports yet come on message boards and talk like they do...like im gonna sit here and seriously discuss this stuff with you...sorry ill save that for the people on the board that know what the hell they speak of
Quote from: ice grillin you on January 08, 2008, 01:59:21 PM
sorry ill save that for the people on the board that know what the hell they speak of
Like there's anyone here who fits that description.
White guys suck at basketball. Right?
Quote from: ice grillin you on January 08, 2008, 01:59:21 PM
Quote from: reese125 on January 08, 2008, 01:55:19 PM
Quoteall im saying is he gets way to much hate by people who dont know the game (reese) and also that his contract is not nearly as bad as some people would like to believe.
I love how all of your rebuttals are that another person doesnt know a sport when your wrong
theres nothing else to say to people like you who dont even watch sports yet come on message boards and talk like they do...like im gonna sit here and seriously discuss this stuff with you...sorry ill save that for the people on the board that know what the hell they speak of
thats exactly what Im talking about. Hates to be wrong Havas. I win.
Quote from: Jerome99RIP on January 08, 2008, 02:00:59 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on January 08, 2008, 01:59:21 PM
sorry ill save that for the people on the board that know what the hell they speak of
Like there's anyone here who fits that description.
they exist....sometimes they are hard to noice with vermin like reese/king cole and munson taking over the city...but they are out there
Stats this season (per game) among centers:
Scoring = Okur 13th, Dalembert 14th
Free throws = Okur 21st, Dalembert 29th
Assists = Okur 7th, Dalembert 42nd
Steals = Okur 33rd, Dalembert 44th
Turnovers = Dalembert 12th, Okur 22nd
Rebounds = Dalembert 10th, Okur 33rd
Double-doubles = Dalembert 12th, Okur 29th
Blocks = Dalembert 5th, Okur 54th
Minutes = Dalembert 9th, Okur 14th
Points+Rebs+Assts = Dalembert 14th, Okur 19th
Neither is better than Dwight Howard, Amare Stoudemire, Yao Ming, Marcus Camby, Rasheed Wallace, Brad Miller, Andrew Bogut or even Chris Kaman. So there.
Dwight Howard = black Mike Richards.
There, I said it...
Quote from: BigEd76 on January 08, 2008, 02:25:49 PM
Stats this season (per game) among centers:
Scoring = Okur 13th, Dalembert 14th
Free throws = Okur 21st, Dalembert 29th
Assists = Okur 7th, Dalembert 42nd
Steals = Okur 33rd, Dalembert 44th
Turnovers = Dalembert 12th, Okur 22nd
Rebounds = Dalembert 10th, Okur 33rd
Double-doubles = Dalembert 12th, Okur 29th
Blocks = Dalembert 5th, Okur 54th
Minutes = Dalembert 9th, Okur 14th
Points+Rebs+Assts = Dalembert 14th, Okur 19th
Neither is better than Dwight Howard, Amare Stoudemire, Yao Ming, Marcus Camby, Rasheed Wallace, Brad Miller, Andrew Bogut or even Chris Kaman. So there.
if your going to put Rasheed in that group, then the list goes on and on of more players better than Sammy
Trade him and get value now (nobody said he sucks IGY--why I bother)
Dwight Howard banged Mary Carey
Quote from: ice grillin you on January 08, 2008, 02:10:34 PM
Quote from: Jerome99RIP on January 08, 2008, 02:00:59 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on January 08, 2008, 01:59:21 PM
sorry ill save that for the people on the board that know what the hell they speak of
Like there's anyone here who fits that description.
they exist....sometimes they are hard to noice with vermin like reese/king cole and munson taking over the city...but they are out there
damn shame u dont live in the city you so call love--hack
Another L
it appears Stefanskis move is paying off getting rid of 6th man Korver for Giricek. In four games, hes failed to score more than 6 points in a game. Not that sixer fans were expecting anything from him anyway.
Keep moving up the draft chart
Quote from: Seabiscuit36 on January 08, 2008, 02:31:20 PM
Dwight Howard banged Mary Carey
She's a porn slut. She bangs anyone.
Huge loss with Chicago being so close in the standings. Sammy with 20/20 against Big Ben.
they still have a long ways to go to get a nice amount of lotto balls. gotta keep this up.
does anyone know the potential list of free agent point guards for this summer...i wish i knew as im torn on whether to deal miller before the deadline or not...hes not gonna be around when they win but at the same time i dont wanna be the clippers where you have all young players who dont know how to be a pro's and the team is just a leaderless mess with young guy after young guy not developing and then you end up in a vicious cyle of replacing failed number one picks with new number one picks...i think having miller around for another year can help prevent that
I'm pretty sure that's Stefanski's dilemna, I think it all comes down to getting an offer for Miller that irresistable.
UFA point guards
Allen Iverson (early termination)
Gilbert Arenas
Baron Davis
Stephon Marbury
Steve Francis
Jason Williams
Jeff McInnis
Beno Udrih
Eddie House
Tyronn Lue
Jannero Pargo
Lindsey Hunter
Flip Murray
Anthony Carter
Anthony Johnson
Smush Parker
Sam Cassell
Darrell Armstrong
Keyon Dooling
Juan Dixon
Jacque Vaughn
Jason Hart
Darrick Martin
Roger Mason
RFA point guards
Ben Gordon
Jose Calderon
Shaun Livingston
Sebastian Telfair
Daniel Gibson
Allen Iverson is not a farging point guard.
a lot of those guys play point guard but arent point guards
iverson arenas and gordon amongst them
Get Arenas.
Let him be the stud Iggy needs he was talking about in his blog.
I hope they don't sign Arenas, that would be a huge waste of money.
arenas is iverson just not nearly as good
I think Arenas is a better shooter than Iverson but Iverson is definately more athletic and is a much bigger threat to go to the basket and better all around playmaker.
Even though the Sixers will have a ton of cap room, there aren't a whole lot of players that would be worth a ton of money. The "top" guys like Arenas, Brand, Marion etc wouldn't be worth it.
There are 3 players I'd go after. Emeka Okafor, Josh Smith and Jose Calderon. I'm not a huge fan of Okafor because it seems he's learned almost nothing on the offensive end in his career, but he's a strong athletic PF/C who rebounds and blocks shots. A 15/10 guy at PF would be great for the Sixers. Smith is obviously really athletic and a good rebounder/shot blocker who could easily play the 4 on a running team like the Sixers are (should be) developing into. And finally Calderon is super efficient, high assist total, low turnovers, good shooting % and a good 3 point shooter. I'm not sure how much I'd pay for these guys, but I'd rather dish out $9M to either one of them instead of Iguodala. Calderon probably won't get away from Toronto considering TJ Ford's issues though.
the Spurs were playing around with the Sixers until about 3 minutes to go and then they went into championship mode and blew their doors off...yuck
That's a good thing, little man.
Ginobli
what's not a good thing is Mo inexplicably putting Willie Green in for Thad down the stretch
7 game losing streak is over. Bad win.
After a disappointing win vs. Toronto the Sixers snap back into form with a good loss to the Pacers
Thad Young is going to be a very good player. He's already one of the best players on the team. I really liked the pick at the time but didn't expect him to be this good this quickly.
I agree. I'm on the opposite end though with the pick. I actually wanted them to pick up Thornton, but the two are not that far off. Although I think Thornton has more versatility in the paint, I like Young's all-around abilities. Young will be a very nice complimentary player for many years.
Lose all they want. the playing time Smith/Young and Williams are getting is huge for their development. Carney is bye-bye
The thing I like about Young is that he could definitely be a #2 option. He's everything we want Iguodala to be. He's a better shooter and rebounder. Even though he's a better shooter he doesn't fall in love with the 3 and barely takes them, unlike Iguodala who shoots 30% while taking 5 a game.
The thing I didn't like about Thornton is that he's already 24. I didn't buy into that bullshtein "he has no more potential" stuff, but Young was almost on the same level as Thornton in the same conference 5 years younger.
tim legler sixers mid season grade
Philadelphia 76ers (Grade: C-minus) -- The talk around the league is that the Sixers have been a pleasant surprise. I'm not sold on that. It's true, based on their offensive talent, they are a lottery team. My bigger problem is with their lack of defensive commitment. In the NBA a team must compensate for lack of firepower by working on every possession.
some old guy on FOXSports.com (http://msn.foxsports.com/nba/story/7709580?CMP=OTC-K9B140813162&ATT=73#)
QuotePhiladelphia 76ers
-- Why do they insist on holding on to Andre Miller? Give the guy a break and send him to a contender.
-- Then let Louis Williams learn on the run.
-- Does Samuel Dalembert have the ugliest jumper in captivity?
-- Willie Green will turn out to be a better all-around player than Andre Iguodala.
wow
Green is awful and that was a stupid statement but the more I look at what's going to be available in the offseason the more I want to see them ship Iggy in a sign and trade. I'm sold on Thad being a player in the next couple of seasons.
Clutch loss tonight
it appears as tho they have collectively given up...which is a good thing...even andre miller looks like the walking dead out there...and when the consumate professional has packed it in its full speed ahead towards a top five pick
Dalembert vs Okafor tonight. Okafor has been on a tear in his past 3 games: 20.3 points, 12 rebounds, 2 blocks, 67% FG. Should be a good matchup, but I wouldn't be surprised if Okafor dominates Dalembert. I hope the Sixers could somehow manage to get him this offseason, he's a RFA.
Sixers won 103-96.
Thad got the start at PF but only played 18 minutes. Iguodala led the team with 33 points, 6 rebounds and 5 assists. Sixers got torched from the outside once again, Jason Richardson was 7-11.
Okafor had another great game 17 points and 16 rebounds. Like I said, it'd be awesome to manage some trade for him.
lol
sixers up by 43 with a minute left
seven guys in double figures
What kind of a shteinhole team loses to the Sixers by 43?
Sacred Hearts Pre-School.
QuoteAndre Iguodala scored 18 points and Andre Miller had 14 to lead Philadelphia to a 112-69 victory over the Bucks on Wednesday night, the 76ers' largest win in more than 25 years.
Holy shteinmonkey.
http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/recap?gameId=280130020
jason smith, 25 min., 1 point, 5 fouls
and they were up by 47 at one point, and calvin booth still didn't make it into the game. ha.
for some inexplicable reason smith started over thad
they talked about his athleticism matching up with Yi at the PF spot better than Evans...it didn't sound like Thad was even in the picture...can't deprive Willie of his minutes you know
Thad had a gorgeous hook shot turning to his right shoulder, going baseline posting up a defender at the end of the game that was unreal.
He needs to improve his ball-handling skill, but other than that he has some serious skill around the basket-- where he consistently uses the rim to his advantage to back down defenders and prevent his shot from being blocked. Dude is going to be good
Quote from: phattymatty on January 31, 2008, 11:06:44 AM
jason smith, 25 min., 1 point, 5 fouls
and they were up by 47 at one point, and calvin booth still didn't make it into the game. ha.
Quote from: ice grillin you on January 31, 2008, 11:07:51 AM
for some inexplicable reason smith started over thad
Wow, I didn't even realize Booth was on the team. Awful.
Evans had a great night, and Smith played like crap and didn't finish the game due to injury. Cheeks looks like a genius for making the move, as a motivating factor for Evans alone.
Booth looks like a drunk giraffe on the court--your missing out
he used to eat in the same cafeteria as me at psu, he always looked lonely.
He looked like one in college too. I'm not missing anything.
Quote from: FastFreddie on January 31, 2008, 11:34:49 AM
He looked like one in college too. I'm not missing anything.
ha
reese/cole always taking the opportunity to make himself look like more of an idiot
Quote from: phattymatty on January 31, 2008, 11:34:45 AM
he used to eat in the same cafeteria as me at psu, he always looked lonely.
wow the caf..I figured he might be grazing in the quad
Quote from: ice grillin you on January 31, 2008, 11:36:52 AM
Quote from: FastFreddie on January 31, 2008, 11:34:49 AM
He looked like one in college too. I'm not missing anything.
ha
reese/cole always taking the opportunity to make himself look like more of an idiot
slurp...slurp..slurp...get it all up..there u go
Im still waiting for the blurb to pop up that Eddy boy trades Andre Miller for....
I really thought the hype on him by Ed in the papers was to up his trade value. Now Im starting to believe he really likes him for the future..which is strikingly odd. Keeping him does the Sixers no good long term. The older he gets, the more flat-footed he becomes. I
Can't even get the inbound pass in to tie the game. Good loss.
Young got another start at PF. Him and Williams both had real good games.
Quote from: reese125 on February 01, 2008, 05:13:22 PM
The older he gets, the more flat-footed he becomes.
wtf?
he hasnt left the ground since 8th grade
im not saying you shouldnt trade him but hes the kind of guy that can make a team and individual players better for a few more years...he has limited athletic skills but hes knows exactly how to make guys around him better and he can do this till around 2010 if the team so chooses...not to mention in that time he could also groom a young point guard...its just to bad that it isnt happening right now with rajon rondo or mike conley
I was hoping for maybe a trade of Willie Green for an expiring contract and a pick in the draft
That would give us about $25 million in cap space, rather the $10 million. $10 million is no chump change but still I thought Ed might make a move. Pick up a big man in FA and it would at least give us an opportunity to maybe get a guy like Calderon for the $9-10 million mark
This was all of course a sucker would take the trade above for Miller to be on a contender that could go somewhere in the playoff this year
Quote from: reese125 on February 02, 2008, 02:10:32 AM
I was hoping for maybe a trade of Willie Green for an expiring contract and a pick in the draft
That's what we all hope for, but no one should be stupid enough to expect that.
3 games in 4 days coming up. Atlanta, Washington and Miami. Getting out 1-2 would be nice, 0-3 even better obviously.
8 games out of last place. They're bad but not bad enough.
Every team beneath them in the standings is at a minimum -4.5 in points differential. Sixers are at -2.0. They need to either start missing shots, stop playing defense or a healthy combination of both. Losing games by an average of 2 pts/game is waaaaaay too close.
Some might say that losing on purpose could be bad for a team's future, you know?
Quote from: Sgt PSN on February 04, 2008, 09:49:55 AM
8 games out of last place.
and closer and closer to the 8th seed
Lost to Atlanta. Nice.
Young had 11 points and 6 boards in 29 minutes. Nothing special. He had 4 of his shots blocked though, it seems it happens to him a lot.
Lou played 20 minutes vs Miller's 40. Against Atlanta. Not the time to be playing your best vet player.
Josh Smith had 19 points, 6 rebounds, 9 assists and 9 blocks.
The 1st quarter was awesome to watch though
Sixers vs Wizards right now, losing 56-49 at the half.
Young has 7 points and 5 rebounds. Miller has 9 points and 10 assists.
not sure if its worth noting but I heard on 950 that there are rumors Andre Miller for Heinrich from the Bulls?
sixers down by 12 with 8 minutes left go on a 23-6 run to finish the game...interesting thing was they did it with the athletes...sweeet lou thad iguodala carney and reggie or sammy...man do the sixers have some unreal theletes if they could just pair them with a shooter and a pf they could make some noise in the next year or two...not sure if it was due to injury or mo wanted to put the kids out there but miller sat the last 9-10 minutes of the game
fun shtein to watch...tons of forced turnovers and fastbreak points...thos slashers they have can really finish at the rim
they had a shooter in Korver and it makes you wonder if the cap room they gained was worth it to give him up. he was definitely a luxury for a rebuilding team to have, but his contract wasn't crippling and we might look back in a few years and say it was a mistake to have traded him.
you can get 3 pt guys that do nothing else anywhere...they need a shooter that can start and play real minutes without hurting you...if later on you wanna add a guy to come off the bench and shoot threes they can do that...if they could get a rip hamilton type and a pf they could make some noise in the east in the next couple seasons
obviously the pf is going to be the big problem...if Elton Brand can come back this year and show something, he would be ideal, but who knows
Josh Smith is a possibility but he's restricted
Quote"Josh changes the game with his blocked shots," said 76ers coach Maurice Cheeks. "When a guy has nine blocked shots it changes the game dramatically. Even when he doesn't block a shot he has guys thinking about it when they shoot, and that can mess up your offensive rhythm."
The more I watch Thad play the more I want Iggy gone
Michael. Beasley.
Quote from: SD_Eagle on February 05, 2008, 11:26:44 PM
The more I watch Thad play the more I want Iggy gone
man you really hate him for some reason.
Quote from: phattymatty on February 06, 2008, 08:46:09 AM
Quote from: SD_Eagle on February 05, 2008, 11:26:44 PM
The more I watch Thad play the more I want Iggy gone
man you really hate him for some reason.
He's not going to get any better than he is now and he's not worth the money he wants. Thad is bigger, younger, and will be better. Why stick with Iggy, if he has trade value - which he does - send him on his way and get some value for him.
you do know hes pretty damn good right now tho...right?....and you may not think hes gonna get better but to say he cant get better is crazy...he just turned 24...thats far from your prime in the nba...not to mention all players get better on better teams...he would be a much better player with improved players around him that would allow him to play a more true three man and not have to do as much with the ball...one thing he rarely does and would be great at is posting up...but because hes the focal point of the team and the sixers have no low post presence he doesnt get to do it as much as he should
all that said it is a decision they have to make as far as resigning him...imo you have to wait until this summer and see what kind of money he is offered before you say you want him automatically gone...the guy is one of the better all around young players in the league right now
Quote from: MDS on February 05, 2008, 11:28:22 PM
Michael. Beasley.
Beasley is a friggin stud. Very versatile player who can be a monster down low and still step out and hit from the perimeter and beyong the arc. Wouldn't want him jacking up NBA 3's but would still love having a player of his size who can hit shots from 18' out.
you would take the best college player in the country? weird.
Quote from: Sgt PSN on February 06, 2008, 01:48:39 PM
Quote from: MDS on February 05, 2008, 11:28:22 PM
Michael. Beasley.
Beasley is a friggin stud. Very versatile player who can be a monster down low and still step out and hit from the perimeter and beyong the arc. Wouldn't want him jacking up NBA 3's but would still love having a player of his size who can hit shots from 18' out.
we already have Dalembert for the attempted 18 footers...were good
just got back from the sixers game tonight...am i the only one who absolutely loves this team....they need to sign iguodala....the guy is really good and theres nothing he doesnt do...lou williams is the real deal....sammy merked that bald headed faggggggot kaman tonight...carney who i wrote off a long time ago is showing a little bit...overall two years tops and very possibly next year this team is challenging in the east
I love the potential this team has. I'd love it even more if they'd lose more games this year.
Quote from: Sgt PSN on February 10, 2008, 02:51:01 AM
I love the potential this team has.
(http://static.arsenal-now.com/forum/images/avatars/205194907743b4d5d1c8b3a.gif)
They are fun to watch, fo sure.
Quote from: ice grillin you on February 10, 2008, 01:08:47 AM
just got back from the sixers game tonight...am i the only one who absolutely loves this team....they need to sign iguodala....the guy is really good and theres nothing he doesnt do...lou williams is the real deal....sammy merked that bald headed faggggggot kaman tonight...carney who i wrote off a long time ago is showing a little bit...overall two years tops and very possibly next year this team is challenging in the east
Ha. You saw them defeat a last-place, one of lowest-scoring, non-existent perimeter defensive teams in the NBA. Not to mention you were half-lit at your first Sixers game this year.
So, here's what Im guessing. You either caught a t-shirt out of the air gun during a time-out or Hip Hop high-fived ya after a back-flip, because to now claim them as challengers in the East next year with what they have now and no acquisitions before the trade deadline is incomprehensible. Nice
I either want them to make the playoffs or tank and get a top 5 pick. No more of this in between 12th pick nonsense. Since they're not going to tank I've starting rooting for them to win vice rooting for them to play well, stay close, then lose.
but how do you feel about igoudala?
Quote from: phattymatty on February 10, 2008, 02:22:08 PM
but how do you feel about igoudala?
ha
sixers WILL make the playoffs and beat boston if thats who they face....detroit would wax them as they dont match up well...get on the bandwagon now cause im closing it shortly
Quote from: phattymatty on February 10, 2008, 02:22:08 PM
but how do you feel about igoudala?
I hope he's moved at the deadline.
Quote from: ice grillin you on February 10, 2008, 01:08:47 AM
just got back from the sixers game tonight...am i the only one who absolutely loves this team....they need to sign iguodala....the guy is really good and theres nothing he doesnt do...overall two years tops and very possibly next year this team is challenging in the east
I don't think anyone would disagree with Iguodala being a good player. It's his value that's questioned. There are probably around 10-15 players that put up similar/better numbers than him at the same position, so is he really worth $10M a year? Especially with someone similar like Thad doing really well at 19 years old.
If the Sixers challenge too quickly this whole "rebuilding process" won't be done the right way. Unless they get a stud big man in free agency like Okafor (obviously won't get Beasley in the draft barring a miracle) they won't have a real shot at a title. Sure, they'll "contend" in the East but wouldn't even be a top 10 team in the league for years.
Good article on why swingmen are overrated: Link (http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news;_ylt=Ai2QR_bUx6yXhAY6yVyGeCGkvLYF?slug=shaqdealshowsmarginaliza&prov=tsn&type=lgns)
"Dallas sucks"? :paranoid
Always
Nice win tonight. I love seeing Cuban poubting in the stands
I'd love to see him owning the Phillies.
Took the words outta my mouth, Todd.
Quote from: MDS on February 11, 2008, 09:29:02 PM
I'd love to see him owning the Phillies.
he'd pout even more
he'd also spend with the yankees and red sox
And probably fire Wheels.
Quotehe Nuggets' willingness to give up this June's first-round draft pick will keep them a player in the Artest stakes, but it also could make the difference in their pursuit of Memphis point guard Kyle Lowry, who is being shopped by the Memphis Grizzlies.
Memphis also is fielding offers for Mike Miller but is trying to include little-used, heavily compensated forward Brian Cardinal (two years remaining at $6.3M and $6.75M) in any deal.
The Nuggets, Bulls, 76ers, Heat, Warriors and Nets are among the teams seeking to acquire Lowry, the 24th overall pick in 2006 who became expandable when the Grizzlies acquired Javaris Crittenton from the Lakers in the Gasol trade.
story (http://insider.espn.go.com/nba/insider/columns/story?columnist=sheridan_chris&page=TradeDeadline-080212&action=login&appRedirect=http%3a%2f%2finsider.espn.go.com%2fnba%2finsider%2fcolumns%2fstory%3fcolumnist%3dsheridan_chris%26page%3dTradeDeadline-080212)
i dont like lowry....hes basically a lou williams clone with less talent....a two guard in a point guards body
Pass first PG who can rebound very well but can't shoot. Real good on defense.
Lou Will = not. Pretty much the opposite. They're similar athletically and especially speed wise, but there's no way I'd turn down getting Lowry.
I agree. I like Lowry alot. Hes got a great handle who I think is going to be a really good PG with the right pieces around him. When he's stepped in for Conley when injured, he played very well
The only problem is your looking at a mirror image of Memphis or worse with the Sixers. Unless the Sixers pick up any kind of true outside threat or legitimate low post scorer, its pointless--Im sure thats their intention though
i dont want a six foot pg that isnt a GREAT distributor....hell i dont really want a six foot pg period
Quote from: ice grillin you on February 12, 2008, 03:57:07 PM
i dont want a six foot pg that isnt a GREAT distributor....hell i dont really want a six foot pg period
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you know damn well you just opened up the AI is a shooting guard can of worms Rome
I love that Iverson is an afterthought to Melo. Eat it, playa.
hardly an afterthought. dude still is a freak of nature and still plays a phenomenal amount of minutes. That team wouldn't be close to where they are now without him.
Here are some excerpts from the phone call yesterday with Gargano and Ed Stephanski's out of the blue call in regarding the Sixers :
1) regarding the younger players:
"maybe earlier in the season, we pushed the envelope trying to get them PT, but since we've gotten them on the court.. now, we cant get them off the court & they deserve all the time their getting"
2) trading Korver got me the cap space I really wanted and it allows Thad to get the minutes I want him to get
3) "we are playing the kids, they're playing incredibly hard and we are winning
4) draft status
"whatever happens w the draft- happens. Im not going to ask them to lose"
ANDRE MILLER:
1) Miller at 32 has a lot left in the tank
2) I am not looking to build around 1 individual player there's no Shaq or Duncan. I want to build as a team
Anthony Gargano asked him,
"Ed, your biggest needs seem to be PF and/or that #1 scorer"
Ed replies: "Thad is real good scorer and has potential w that low post little left hand hook."
then he continued: "I've been scouting lots of players now who have turned themselves into good shooters (he brought up Calderon and Manu who were "horrible shooters when they came into the league."
"I think Lou/Thad/Iggy & Carney will all become effective 3pt shooters if they continue to work on their shot"
I really wish Gargano would of pressed the ability of trading Miller or get some an expiring again as in the Korver trade to land a PF next year..but Gargano is so soft.
another win closer to the playoffs. Thad gives me basketball wood
no doubt Jason Kidd leaving made it a hell of a lot easier
Quote from: reese125 on February 13, 2008, 09:39:28 PM
no doubt Jason Kidd leaving made it a hell of a lot easier
or not. George blocked the trade.
theres still time left to get on the wagon
iguodala with his best game as a pro
the godfather another big effort
the kid gets 12 and 8 in his sleep now
reg evans is a bald spotted maniac
the bamas in boston better watch out in april
I've been on it all along. I think rooting for losses is ridiculous. Need to get these young guys winning, so they begin to get addicted to the taste of it.
thats so gay.
Gays are addicted to the taste of it too.
thats so gaven
Quote from: Sgt PSN on February 14, 2008, 01:02:30 PM
thats so gavin
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QuoteWhile other rebuilding teams have been giving away their stars, it appears that the 76ers are maintaining a higher standard with point guard Andre Miller. They win either way: If Cleveland (with help of a third team) or another suitor is willing to meet their price, then they'll move him; otherwise, they'll be happy to keep him and make a run at the playoffs, as the Sixers (23-30) are tied with Atlanta for the final spot in the East.
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2008/writ...line/index.html
got an error message on the link SD
and I cant see why Cleveland wouldnt go after Andre for a high price with the way he is playing. They need a PG in the worst way to make any kind of serious run this year with Boston in the mix now
Gibson is not a good PG where he can put the rock on the floor and dish it, Hughes is a SG, and Snow needs to hang up his chuck T's...why not
the problem is that cleveland has nothing to offer...i mean other than lebron what would you want off that team
Cleveland has nothing. Drew Gooden, but I doubt they'd trade him. I wouldn't even want him but he'd help the most. Then Ira Newble has an expiring for like $3.5M. Cleveland's picks are going to be irrelevant so it almost has to be a 3 way trade to get a fair deal.
QuoteI wouldn't even want him but he'd help the most
Why wouldnt you want him? 6'10, 26 years old--could help out alot
Another possibility to make it work is giving up Reggie Evans (who is playing well now) for a future protected 1st rd pick. This helps Cleveland because Varejao is still hurt
So you could have Gooden, Newble, Dwayne Jones, Devin Brown and Cleveland's 2008 first-round pick plus a future protected first-round pick for A. Miller, R. Evans and Amundson.
yay Sixers
The 76ers and coach Maurice Cheeks are closing in on a contract extension. An NBA source said last night that both sides have been in negotiations regarding a new deal, one that appears imminent.
Who's blog did you pull that from?
Your grandmothers
The 76ers and coach Maurice Cheeks have agreed in principle to a contract extension, the team said in a news release today.
Terms of the agreement were not disclosed.
"Since my arrival, I have been evaluating every aspect of the organization and I believe that coach Cheeks deserves a great deal of credit for developing our players, putting them in a position to succeed and showing improvement every day," team president and general manager Ed Stefanski said. "Coach Cheeks has done a very good job of installing an up-tempo brand of basketball that puts this team in a position to succeed on a nightly basis and we are excited about the future under his direction."
Easy blowout win vs the Knicks tonight. At the half, Green has 17, Thad 10, Miller with 9 assists.
doubled at halftime....wow
holy farg...72 at the half. Stellar D by the Knicks
124-84 :-D
Win by 40.
Miller 12 points 10 assists. Nice game. Get traded.
Thaddeus Young 20 points, 8 rebounds, 8-11 shooting in 24 minutes.
Lou Will 13 points, 4 assists, 3 steals in 20 minutes. Nice 4-6 shooting, he really needs to get a higher FG%, it's around 41% for the year.
No Sixers trades in works, Stefanski says
Philadelphia Daily News
If there's a trade for the 76ers to make before today's NBA in-season deadline, Eddie Stefanski insisted before the start of last night's game against the New York Knicks that he wasn't aware of it.
Not that he hasn't been in contact with virtually every other team in the league, exploring options, doing his due diligence.
"There's no deal on the table now that anyone should get excited about and think we're going to make," said Stefanski, the president/general manager.
Awesome
I don't really understand why everyone's so excited about selling off decent players no matter what.
If they get a great deal, fine. But how bad would it truly help them long-term to sell off Miller or others just to get an expiring contract or a heavily-protected pick?
i think most people like the way the team is headed and would be more than happy to stick with it and let guys develop
i think only reese (whos an idiot) and sd with iguodala wanna send people packing
Good point.
QuoteI don't really understand why everyone's so excited about selling off decent players no matter what.
If they get a great deal, fine. But how bad would it truly help them long-term to sell off Miller or others just to get an expiring contract or a heavily-protected pick?
They could very well get a good deal for Miller next year, thats fine...but when a team is trying to "rebuild" and get back to the championship (not playoffs), thats exactly how you do it long-term...especially when you have some guys on the team that have value(which luckily the Sixers have).
Quotei think most people like the way the team is headed and would be more than happy to stick with it and let guys develop
i think only reese (whos an idiot) and sd with iguodala wanna send people packing
See, its the ones (IGY) that dont know no shtein about basketball who like to make comments like this..which is expected
I love it. You go to your first Sixers game drunk one night, see them win, sprint out to the parking lot chest bumping and giving noogies to your buddies in excitement, and scream to the world that you love this team. Get back to your Bob Evans thread
lol @ trying to diss someone by saying they got drunk at a sporting event...could you be more of a nerd
i have season tickets or a game plan to every single philly team...but thanks for playing....sports "fans" like you didnt exist before the internet...try getting out more
Quote from: ice grillin you on February 21, 2008, 08:53:25 AM
sd with iguodala wanna send people packing
If they can get good value for him, I don't want them to just trade him for shtein.
but you also were against offering as much as they did and if hes gonna get 50+ mil offer youd just assume let him walk right
I wouldn't let him walk for nothing, the money he's going to get is absurd for a decent swingman but he's still an asset. I said this before, I'd like to see some creativity from Stefanski. I wouldn't just trade him for an expiring contract and late round picks, I want value in return. And just to set the record straight, I like him as a player, its just that I like Thad much more.
true, i'd hate to have two good players at the same time.
i didnt see the game last night but living here in NYC i heard a lot about it on the sports radio this afternoon.
they mentioned that some of the sixers fans started a "fire isiah" chant. is this true? hilarious if true.
i heard it on the game and they talked about it on wip saying the same thing.....that it was sixer fans...but i dont believe that...it had to be knick fans of which there is always a good amount of in philly
anyone have any confidence whatsoever that the sixers can win tonight....they really need it going into a tough three game western...beating a quality team like the magic would be big
looks like no godfather...not that he can make a difference against howard anyway
there more magic fan around here than sixers i guess
anyway they are running the sorry ass magic out of the building right now...up by 23...andre miller is playing out of his mind right now...18 pt 6 dimes with five minutes left in the half!!
godfather is fighting thru the injuries and in the line up and playing howard tough
Sometime yesterday on ESPN they were really talking up Thad and the year he's having. I guess that was nice.
thats cool...tv espn or website?...im kinda surprised that he caught espn's eye cause hes not having the kind of year that jumps out at you...but if you watch him night in and night out he becomes really impressive
Is it just me or does anyone else get incredibly pissed off when you see the Sixers are actually beating a good team, then you see Thad with 4 points and 5 rebounds, when Willie Green has 21 5 and 5? I can't stand Green.
Green put up 20+ the last time against this squad.
Aside from Miller and Iggy, the inconsistency of the players is the most frustrating, but any young squad will make you pull your hair out. I expect Thad to be up and down ...no matter the circumstance
Quote from: Dillen on February 27, 2008, 08:54:46 PM
Is it just me or does anyone else get incredibly pissed off when you see the Sixers are actually beating a good team, then you see Thad with 4 points and 5 rebounds, when Willie Green has 21 5 and 5? I can't stand Green.
i know what youre saying i used to get upset about it too but more because he was taking minutes from carney who i wanted to see more of...but this team is going for the playoffs now and willie green knows how to play in this league whereas thad doesnt ...in the long run thad is clearly the better player but for right now you go with whats working...one day when this team is better willie is going to be an excellent instant offense guy off the bench ala a vinnie johnson
great win tonight
Green was great at both ends of the floor tonight, he's been decent on this little run. Hard not to give Sammy some credit too since Howard was a non factor. Not to take anythng away from this win but the Magic seemed a little lethargic tonight. Like they only gave a half ass effort to score then dished it off thinking the 3 would save them. They also looked extremely slow running the floor.
Quote from: ice grillin you on February 27, 2008, 08:25:16 PM
thats cool...tv espn or website?...im kinda surprised that he caught espn's eye cause hes not having the kind of year that jumps out at you...but if you watch him night in and night out he becomes really impressive
TV. Started out as "everyone knows the youngest rookie in the league and the year he's having, but what about the second youngest....Thaddius blah blah blah"
sixers 7-0 in their last seven at home
flyers 0-10 in their last ten at home
They have a game and a half lead on Atlanta who is the 9 seed. They are 2 games out of the 6 seed. What the hell?
caron butler might be out for the year....bullets are done....they will pass them easily
i wanted boston in the first round so bad...lucky for the celtics its not gonna happen
Quote from: ice grillin you on February 28, 2008, 02:41:25 PM
i wanted boston in the first round so bad...lucky for the celtics its not gonna happen
:paranoid
Sixers release Gordon Giricek
blown out by Golden State and will probably get blown out by Phoenix
Quote from: BigEd76 on March 01, 2008, 01:43:33 AM
blown out by Golden State and will probably get blown out by Phoenix
yeah...they just don't have the weapons to keep up with high scoring teams like that. sixers will still sneak into the playoffs though.
Carney and Lou had great games. Too bad the starters shot 23-70.
Sixers beat the Suns 119-114. Crazy final stretch of the game. Iggy was nothing short of spectacular.
That last minute took about 20 minutes to finish. LOL
Iggy was unreal.
werd. what a fun game to watch, even though that nubmskull dalembert almost lost the game with his bonehead plays down the stretch.
iggy & miller were on fire.
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i like how you had to edit your post to put in something positive because all you said was something negative after a great win
Quote from: SunMo on March 02, 2008, 09:19:30 AM
i like how you had to edit your post to put in something positive because all you said was something negative after a great win
actually, i did the exact opposite.
i went back in to add the part about dalembert.
but thanks for playing.
thanks for having me
any time.
back to the sixers...all along, i've been saying they should have traded miller for cap space but he's starting to change my mind. dook really makes his teammates better.
johnson.
Quote from: hunt on March 01, 2008, 08:31:58 AM
Quote from: BigEd76 on March 01, 2008, 01:43:33 AM
blown out by Golden State and will probably get blown out by Phoenix
yeah...they just don't have the weapons to keep up with high scoring teams like that.
good call
you forgot to quote eddie's post, whitey.
suns looked really out of sync last night & the sixers played really well...shaq is a horrible fit so far.
hey, I said "probably". If Phoenix scores 114 in regulation at home, most of the time you aren't going to win. And they still almost blew it....f'ing Dalembert
good trade
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I just spit iced tea all over myself laughing at that picture. :-D :-D :-D
That picture is begging for a p-chop thread.
Another RIDICULOUS blowout.
what is this wackadoo talking about?
Playing Isn't Fun (http://www.philly.com/dailynews/sports/20080308_Despite_Sixers_win__Dalembert_says_playing_isnt_fun.html)
Quote
Despite Sixers' win, Dalembert says playing isn't 'fun'
By PHIL JASNER
Philadelphia Daily News
jasnerp@phillynews.com
SAMUEL DALEMBERT must be looking for fun in all the wrong places. He must be, because he put up 22 points on 10-for-11 shooting and swept 13 rebounds in the 76ers' 117-83 blowout of the Seattle SuperSonics and sounded as if he hadn't been having any fun at all.
Before the game, the 6-11 center talked almost wistfully about what it might be like to have a full-time big man coaching him, about wishing he was playing more minutes. Afterward, he talked long and hard about how it sometimes becomes difficult going in and out of games, about something - he never got specific - remaining "still confusing."
He said that he didn't have a problem with his teammates, didn't have a problem with coach Maurice Cheeks, but that, "because I'm a joker," people don't always take him seriously. He mentioned a "respect level" with the organization, but again didn't get specific.
So, is there a problem with the organization?
"Not very much," he said. "A little bit. Nothing really big. Just confusing sometimes."
If you can't have fun winning three straight games, five of six, 11 of 14, eight straight at home, you're not really trying. If you can't have fun catching pinpoint lobs from Andre Miller and throwing down hellacious dunks, your mind must be elsewhere.
Everybody else seemed to be having a blast, including the Wachovia Center crowd, announced as 17,762. The Sixers led by as many as 39 points, scored 30 on 20 Sonics turnovers, placed seven men in double scoring figures and committed only two turnovers in the second half. Andre Iguodala had 18 points and seven assists, and Thaddeus Young came off the bench for 18 points and nine rebounds.
"We're just feeding off each other, not forcing one guy to score," Iguodala said. "We're just playing ball. Whoever's open shoots the ball."
When Dalembert was open, he was usually floating toward the rim, turning lobs from various angles into rim-rattlers. If that doesn't sound like fun, what does?
"If you throw one and he doesn't get it, he knows you're going to throw it again," Iguodala said. "Sometimes a turnover [on a lob to him] is a good turnover, because you know the next time he's going to be ready."
That made the postgame group interview with Dalembert puzzling, because he has been a positive presence most of the season and has no intention of being anything but that.
"I try to stay focused, stay on the goal," Dalembert said. "Our goal is to make the playoffs. We have the opportunity . . . There are times you get in a groove, feeling the game, you want to be there. [Going] in and out gets kind of frustrating after a while.
"I'm just trying to get the fun back. It's been a little while since I've had the fun. It's been a while since I've enjoyed myself."
Asked to define "fun," he said, "Winning is our goal, and I know that, but sometimes individually you have to try to look for the fun. That's my goal, and it's working out for me."
But fun? "Do the things you always used to do in high school, and when you first started playing basketball," he said. "I don't want to talk about it, really. It's been great. I just love the way we're playing. I'm jelling with the guys, and we're having fun on the road and winning . . . Hopefully, I can adjust very well, do my job, which is rebounding and blocking shots."
If Dalembert is looking for fun, maybe he should check the standings, where the Sixers are the No. 7 playoff seed in the NBA East, 1 1/2 games behind Washington. They reached the postseason only once in the previous four seasons.
He seemed to be having fun dunking in the pregame warmups, but that clearly wasn't enough.
"It's just personal," he said.
Cheeks seemed mystified about what might be siphoning the fun out of the game for Dalembert. He called the first play of the game for his center. He said he usually does.
"I always thought our relationship was fine," Cheeks said. "I just want him to do certain things. He's obviously doing those things this year on a more consistent basis. He's been a major guy in the middle. From Day 1, that's one of the things I wanted him to do. That's all I ever wanted."
What about Dalembert mentioning the lack of a big man to coach a big man? Or has he forgotten that Hall of Famer Moses Malone was a full-timer last season and is a consultant this season?
"That means our guards should be way better," said Cheeks, once a star guard. His assistants include Henry Bibby, a solid guard as a pro, and Jim Lynam, a terrific guard at Saint Joseph's. Bibby and Lynam have also had success tutoring big men.
"There are some things a big man can tell Sam that I can't, because I haven't been in that position. There's some merit to that," Cheeks added. "There's also some merit to people having a big man [as a] coach and then they don't do as well as they should . . . If you're receptive, you can learn a lot."
Are we having fun yet? *
I'm tired of Dalembert. Who the hell is he to complain? Maybe if he could gain any consistency it would be okay, but when you put up less than 10 points in like 8 straight games you should just shut up and play. I know the Sixers could do worse at center but they're not going to win with him.
I like Sammy but that article reeks of Ricky Williams.
^^^^^
seriously what a weirdo...its that haitian voodoo shtein...was it me it were his quotes in that piece all over the map...like he was on sherm...get your head right psycho sixers are beating the celtics in the first round...i wonder if his leg injury that wont seem to go away and has been effecting him for a while now is frustrating him
and the team can absolutely win with him...in fact they are being built around him perfectly...a bunch of slashing defending perimeter guys to go with his defense...they just need a PF and a shooter and an nba title is not that far off
He wants to get paid
dalembert is a buffoon.
that overpaid piece of garbage should shut his trap and thank his lucky stars that billy king was dumb enough to pay him $10 mill a year to run around the court like a chicken with his head cut off. he's been in the league for 6 years & still doesn't know what the hell he's doing half the time.
sad part is...the sixers have no other options at center right now.
you could be paying adonal foyle wally szcerbiak nene bobby simmons jason williams or many other players the same amount of money...and when you consider his position one that is disappearing in the league then 10 mil aint that bad...shtein kirk heinrich makes more than sammy...its weird to say but 10 mil in the league is soon gonna be almost the norm for an above average starter which is what sammy is
he could be more than an above average starter if he actually had a brain and worked on his game. there's nothing more frustrating than guys who have all the physical tools but don't have the heart to work hard & improve their games.
the team has been on fire lately and dalembert is whining about "respect". the guy said winning isn't fun. i think that sums up how much of a headcase he is.
at his position he is above average...i think he may be certifiable though...like i really think hes into or held captive by that haitian voodoo
No basketball player is worth $10m. They play basketball. It's a shame the league is that way, but I don't really have an issue about his contract since it has to be this way. The thing I have an issue with is that he's getting so much while complaining and doing nothing to get better. He still has the same issues he did when he came out of Seton Hall. What the hell does he have to complain about? He hasn't had to put any hard work in for the past half decade plus and he's getting 10 million dollars a year? Shut the hell up.
Andrew Toney says he won't be at Monday's game honoring the 1983 team
Quote from: BigEd76 on March 08, 2008, 02:21:23 PM
Andrew Toney says he won't be at Monday's game honoring the 1983 team
the celts are probably happy to hear that. dude used to light them up.
Quote from: Dillen on March 08, 2008, 02:19:39 PM
No basketball player is worth $10m. They play basketball. It's a shame the league is that way, but I don't really have an issue about his contract. The thing I have an issue with is that he's getting so much while complaining and doing nothing to get better. He still has the same issues he did when he came out of Seton Hall. What the hell does he have to complain about? He hasn't had to put any hard work in for the past half decade plus and he's getting 10 million dollars a year? Shut the hell up.
agreed...his contract isn't the reason he frustrates me. it just adds to it.
salaries in the nba are insane but all that revenue has to go somewhere. or they could lower ticket prices so a family could actually afford to see a couple games in person...but that isn't happening.
Quote from: BigEd76 on March 08, 2008, 02:21:23 PM
Andrew Toney says he won't be at Monday's game honoring the 1983 team
who are you?
anyway celtics monday detroit wednesday...get a real chance to see how far this team has come...exciting times indeed
Ha. Sammy bitching is the icing on the cake. How many years now and not one post move developed? Instead he wants to bitch about getting more minutes? Cheeks might feel more comfortable leaving him out there if the guy wouldnt fumble balls, take 18ft turnarounds, and take hook shot clankers down in the block. He needs to more aggressive without the ball weekly to earn his minutes, not every 2 weeks.
He is not a guy you build around...no friggin way. You build around guys that have a solid basketball IQ and know what they are worth on the court. Sure its nice they are winning now, and he helps here and there, but you know damn well its not because of Dalembert.
you dont build around sammy dalembert...tell us more reese?....and did you call wip the other day?
Quoteyou dont build around sammy dalembert...tell us more reese?....and did you call wip the other day?
Thats right...how many times do I have to say it? You build around the cornerstones of your franchise. Yes it would be nice to build around a solid center in the NBA, that is ideal for any club...but Dalembert is just the opposite. He's a plug and play type center, no more. Until he truly figures out the position--which is never..then you can make that argument
Your going to believe what you want to believe regardless...so whats the difference.
Also, I dont know what this wip thing is your talking about, but this is now what the 4th time you've asked? Now you have Barney Rubble asking me. Ask me again..please?
lol
looking at a 60+ pt first half...on fire....we love this team
yeah we do
thad has had one of the best halves of his career
wow THAD!!
six men in double figures in the 3rd quarter...can you say powerhouse
all that's left to worry about is Sammy's fun factor
Thadsy is the man.
I'd love to see this team hit .500 but I think 4-4 would be good in their next 8. Thad is undoubtedly the steal of the draft.
EFF BOSTON!!
yo son they be too good for boston. best chance is to catch toronto for the 5 seed and beat lebron in rd 1, then get boston in rd 2. this will happen.
whenever it is...boston dont wanna see the sixers
http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/rumors/post/Cheeks-talks-with-Dalembert-after-rants-about-pl?urn=nba,70833
Mo talked to Dalembert about his rants. The article itself is short and dry. What's funny to me are the comments that people leave at the bottom of the articles. Like this one:
Quotehe is dating a model recently on a famous BBW dating site named " largesingle.com".. That girl is really hot.
ha!
besides the voodoo stuff sammy reminds me a lot of shawn andrews...eccentrically strange
just give joboo his rum and go out and block some shots you dummy
celts storm out to a 15-0 lead.
damn.
the wide open 3's were particularly nice
JESUS FARGING CHRIST!! It's only March. Settle down people! FARG!!
right back in it now...and rondo looks like an insect.
farging Paul Pierce travels more than anybody i've ever seen without it being called
gutty first half after that start
Reggie Evans 11 boards in 22 minutes? Wow.
Lou shot 3-15. Ouch. The other young guys showed up, Thad and Smith both had solid games.
Calvin Booth had as many points as Dalembert.
Sammy was atrocious tonight (well, I only saw the first 3 quarters).
dalembert is outclassed against garnett....not that most people arent
willie green being hurt was really bad for them...celts wouldnt let them run clogged up the middle and made them knock down shots and even with willie they struggle at that
I'm not even a fan and I would totally wear this:
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forget garnett...dalembert was outclassed by kendrick perkins. i hope he had fun though.
reggie was on perkins...anyway sammy had fun this weekend with two great games...he just isnt in kevin garnetts league
Quote from: Rome on March 10, 2008, 10:04:15 PM
I'm not even a fan and I would totally wear this:
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Bomb pops rule.
Quote from: Rome on March 10, 2008, 10:04:15 PM
I'm not even a fan and I would totally wear this:
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That
is nice. It's no Eagles reversible wool jacket, but it's nice.
satin is gay...almost as gay as collars you cant un pop
Quote from: ice grillin you on March 11, 2008, 08:04:24 AM
satin is gay...almost as gay as collars you cant un pop
they make collars that you cant unpop? Time to end the world
Quote from: Seabiscuit36 on March 11, 2008, 08:14:16 AM
Quote from: ice grillin you on March 11, 2008, 08:04:24 AM
satin is gay...almost as gay as collars you cant un pop
they make collars that you cant unpop?
theres one right above you
Ive never and would really kill myself if i ever wore a popped collar
nevermind
Quote from: ice grillin you on March 10, 2008, 10:16:53 PM
reggie was on perkins...anyway sammy had fun this weekend with two great games...he just isnt in kevin garnetts league
a dalembert apologist? nice schtick!
stefan is on with howard....i absolutely love his honesty...hes the best thing going in town right now
---says with the money they have dont just think free agency...they would also go after another teams star in a trade in a situation where the team wants to dump salary or the star wants out
---is really happy with thad...when he got here he knew he had three players that could start on other teams (miller iguodala and sammy) but now he includes thad in with them
---can get the same player at 15 or 16 if they make the playoffs as at 10-11-12...so obviously they are going all out
---loves andre miller...is way better than he thought he was...doesnt consider him old and says he has years left
---says sixers and memphis are the only teams with real cap room this summer so getting iguodala back is likely and that they want him back and that even tho memphis has money he thinks they are still paring back on salary
---says they need a PF bad
---would consider elton brand but have to be wary of the injury
---says he spoke to sammy about his comments...says its sammy being sammy...hes a free spirit and diffrent...theres nothing to it and hes happy...his teammates love him...as far as on the court...hes an intregal part of what they wanna do...he blocks shots and rebounds and thats what they wanna build around
----hes goin to the pac 10 tourney this week to scout players
holy christ...CN8 has the Sixers game tonight and its like trying to watch through a fish tank
It was nice of the Sixers to suck a fat one against the Celts right before I traveled to Boston on business. fargheads.
Easily the biggest win of the season. After Miller went down I thought they'd lose but they held it together. Carney with his best game of the season.
Carney still sucks. farg him.
sixers are probably the best team to watch in all of sports right now...how gutty can you get...it starts with the gawd mo cheeks...a friggin philly legend...
the godfather was eatin boards like a maniac last night
thad young plays defense better than any young player ive seen in a long time..how humble is this kid...what farging 19 year old prides himself on defense and never takes a bad shot
carney stepped up huge last night...im so glad willie green is out so this kid can get more minutes...been saying forever they gotta find out abiout him and already know what willie is...btw willie is gonna be a mini microwave in this league...super valuable on a championship team...which should happen in the next 3-5 years for this team
holleration!
anyone who hates sammy hates themselves
Quote
Earlier, Dalembert was on the bench, repeatedly telling anyone who could hear him, "We're gonna win the game. We're gonna win the game."
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how much meth did you do this morning?
Quote from: SunMo on March 13, 2008, 09:12:36 AM
how much meth did you do this morning?
none
just one big helping of 76er
ha
actually i need a toothpick...i think one of sammys pubes is stuck in my teeth
im not sure, im hiv positive igy has lost it
the minute they got rid of webber i told yous that this team was on thier way...you telling me they cant win a title in the next three to four...YOUVE lost it
ill lose it when they beat the c's in rd 2 after gettin through lebron.
Quote from: ice grillin you on March 13, 2008, 08:19:50 AM
the godfather was eatin boards like a maniac last night
He's 6'11", somewhat strong and real athletic. He played against a center who shot seven 3 pointers. He better get 15 rebounds. Too bad he was 3-9 shooting.
Obama/Dalembert '08!
I love Dalembert, therefore I love myself
Sixers looked overconfident, then came from behind for a great win vs. the Bulls 110-106. This one looked like a definite loss. Only 2 games below .500
wow this team is to good to be true....
that game was awesome if you only saw the 4th quarter
agree. Some serious sloppy play for the majority of the game
this Spurs game has been a real good one, Andre Miller has been unreal
i just noticed Calvin Sampson sitting behind the Spurs bench, ha
holy farg the Suprs are getting champions calls here...
Sammy is manning up on Duncan down the stretch
holy shtein...get Lou Williams out of the game
Miller splitting those two defenders to put that bucket in was huge
5 games in 7 days and they go 4-1, this team has some balls
What SunMo said.
seriously they are winning the title. too good.
wow! this team is SO much better without a1.
sammy for mvp!
Quote from: hunt on March 16, 2008, 11:14:47 AM
wow! this team is SO much better without chris webber.
sammy for mvp!
yes and yes
sammy's back to back defensive possessions on duncan were awesome
I wish I could see the goddamn games. >:(
You could have driven to San Antonio where I'm sure it was on local tv
yeah, you farging shtein kicking hick
That cuts deep, man. DEEP!
Would be fitting for the Sixers to break the championship drought.
Phreak leaves town and the Sixers get better.
If only the same notion applied to the Eagles & Flyers.
:'(
I was also gone on September 24th, the final week to 10 days of the Phillies season.
Get Cataldi gone, he's the curse. He arrived in 1983, before the confetti was even swept up off of Broad after the Sixers parade. No championship since.
WIP is the pulse of the city.
No special attention for AI tonight by the Sixers.
They say when he retires, it will be different....but that tonight is no big thing.
::)
He deserves better than that. He is the only reason this team was anything in the early 2000s and brought millions to Ed Snider with his presence alone.
i feel what youre saying but tonight is for the fans to honor him not the team...they are in the middle of a playoff race and hes the enemy tonight...he should get a massive standing ovation when hes announced and when he comes out for warm ups and pregame but after that he can be booed for all i care...and i love ai as much as anyone
They could do a LITTLE recognition for him before the game starts...during warmups for all I care.
IGY is 100% correct on this one. AI's the opposition for a team currently in the playoff race. Honor him after he retires or after he's dead, not when he's still a competitive player for an opposing team.
Pre-game honors? We talkin' 'bout pre-game honors??
AI's my favorite player ever. But farg him tonight.
Who got the better end of the AI deal? (http://www.philly.com/philly/sports/20080319_John_Smallwood__As_Iverson_returns_to_Philly__who_got_best_of_deal__Nuggets_or_Sixers_.html)
Miller is more valuable to the Sixers than AI is to Denver. Sixers also got Jason Smith, and cleared cap space with Joe Smiths expiring deal. I doubt Denver wins a championship anytime soon so I'd say the Sixers got the better end of this deal.
a1 should be honored for his admirable work ethic and ability to fit into the team concept and make the players around him better.
Quote from: hunt on March 19, 2008, 12:26:06 PM
a1 should be honored for his admirable work ethic and ability to fit into the team concept and make the players around him better.
knew Hunt would show up
he stalks iverson in an unhealthy way....pennsyltuckians hate thier stillupfronts
says the chubby white guy who worships a1's "thug" image.
i worship the player and the warrior and have since georgetown days but amazingly i am still able to point out his flaws as well
shocking you would drop the ole "thug" on us...typical white trash
I had tickets, and have to farging work and will miss the whole damn thing.
None of you care, but I do.
I care. I didn't know you rooted for any other Philly teams.
Every one of them except for the Phillies, actually...
I could have sworn you were a Devils guy also.
Whatever. AI is the enemy tonight. Go Sixers.
Uch. Not this guy. I hate those fargers, but Im hoping Devs-Flyers in Round 1, so we can invade that stupid new arena they so cleverly named "The Rock".
Quote from: ice grillin you on March 19, 2008, 01:25:49 PM
i worship the player and the warrior and have since georgetown days but amazingly i am still able to point out his flaws as well
shocking you would drop the ole "thug" on us...typical white trash
oooh...the internet wannabe-thug is calling me names.
guys like you who try so hard to be "street" are like living, breathing punchlines...gotta worship a1's pole to show that you're down.
hilarious.
I worship AI's pole, and I am certainly not down.
Quote from: Die-Hard on March 19, 2008, 01:52:26 PM
I worship AI's pole, and I am certainly not down.
nor am i or matty and i KNOW pg isnt...unless you count down near the ground
oh, you're down. you quote rap lyrics and everything.
Word.
do you take pride in being racist and ignorant?
I think it's hilarious that anyone here would worship that douchebag. Whatever, though. Go Magic.
Quote from: MDS on March 19, 2008, 02:07:38 PM
do you take pride in being racist and ignorant?
it's racist to not like iverson? that's a new one.
its not that just that, hannity.
Quote from: MDS on March 19, 2008, 02:26:25 PM
its not that just that, hannity.
so not liking a1 is "sort of" racist? what's the rest?
it's because i make fun of your buddy igy, isn't it ?
Quote from: MDS on March 19, 2008, 02:26:25 PM
its not that just that, hannity.
85% of that message board are racist pigs...its like a little mini online klan meeting every day...its the main reason i left it
you were on hannitys message board?
Some of you didn't really pay attention to or didn't read Obama's speech.
so far:
not liking iverson = racist
posting on that other eagles' board = racist
i'm learning so much today.
Quote from: hunt on March 19, 2008, 01:50:37 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on March 19, 2008, 01:25:49 PM
i worship the player and the warrior and have since georgetown days but amazingly i am still able to point out his flaws as well
shocking you would drop the ole "thug" on us...typical white trash
oooh...the internet wannabe-thug is calling me names.
guys like you who try so hard to be "street" are like living, breathing punchlines...gotta worship a1's pole to show that you're down.
hilarious.
lol
85% of the members on the Eagles board are racist?
Awesome!
85% of the people who posted were...on the one board they were anyway...maybe the mods finally stepped up and started banning people tho i highly doubt it....i havent been there for a long time
8-9 out of 10 people were racist? Come on, IGY. Even for you that's a gross exaggeration. I'll buy that 85% are stupid, but racist? That's just nonsense, dude.
And I don't even know which board you're talking about. If you're talking about the political section, that's gone and with it went a lot of the sort of clueless douchebags you're referring to here. But that's been two years now.
PS: Hunt isn't a racist by any means, so knock off the insistence that he is.
If the broad definition of "racist" includes anyone that ever uses the word "thug" or has lived in a red state or has whitish skin, then 85% of the EMB might just be racists.
Come on, though - it's no secret that this is IGY's sensitive spot and that MDS loves playing to it when possible.
this coming from the bush apologist.
Look, I'm just saying that it gets itchy when it starts to grow back. Clean shaven isn't always the best way to groom.
Not liking any black athlete(that IGY likes)=racist.
there used to be at least three or four racial threads daily in that place that went 15-20 pages long everytime...theyd begin as a joke but quickly the thread was taken over by kkk members and tons of them who would start in with just despicable stuff...theres be a couple black guys in there trying to defend themselves but they would get massacxred...
i specifically remember one thread where it must have went on for a good 20 pages and on like page 21 i made my first post saying that white people smelled like turkey cold cuts or some shtein like that...and i got banned....i couldnt believe it after some of the stuff then went on for days int he thread and was tolerated that i got banned for that....ive posted like 10 times in the two years since that has happened
it was sickening
anyway back on topic iverson will be interviewed by sas on nba shootaround tonight at 730
wow that ovation for iverson sent chills down my spine....that was farging awesome
i wanted to lay the over tonight and forgot...i don't even know what it is, but it could be 300 and i would still lay it
it was 223
i wouldnt have taken it simply because nuggets are playing back to back on the road...but it looks pretty good right now
Quote from: SunMo on March 19, 2008, 07:13:41 PM
i don't even know what it is, ... and i would still lay it
High five!
i still can't believe they scored 168 in regulation, that's incredible
iverson kissing the sixers logo was great too
Quote from: ice grillin you on March 19, 2008, 07:30:07 PM
iverson kissing the sixers logo was great too
that gave me huge chills.
Funny about that ovation...it was like 5 minutes long...and then they went and announced the next Nuggets player and the boos were just as loud as the ovation for AI. lol
Quote from: PhillyGirl on March 19, 2008, 07:33:50 PM
Funny about that ovation...it was like 5 minutes long...
or 50 seconds
They should have just announced him 5 times instead.
damn, this game is insane
I get chills thinking about you guys getting chills.
Does that make me gay or is it just my face?
it's the dick in your ass
I don't know what you're complaining about. I let you be the man tonight.
let's stop this train right here
Over/under on the number of shots Iverson jacks tonight.
25?
sixers have at least 10 dunks already
sixers might score 223 in this game
nuggets are back to back on a east coast trip and have clearly already cashed their chips in for this game
they are so bad defensively anyway, but tonight they are flat out pathetic...
andre miller is straight deadly from 15 feet
lou williams reminds me so much of iverson...he so ridiculously smooth
I dont know if anyone saw the outlet pass to Iverson after the Sixers bucket, but the fact that he grabs the pass in stride on the baseline, then continues that fluid motion all the way to the basket for a score over 2 dudes for a layup is farging unreal
and a terrible shooter
it seems that Carney developed a pretty decent outside shot while he was buried on the bench during the first half of the season
QuoteAllen Iverson bad pass (Andre Miller steals)
Quote from: ice grillin you on March 19, 2008, 07:56:20 PM
lou williams reminds me so much of iverson...he so ridiculously smooth
I was a lot higher on him earlier in the year. He's getting tired or something, he's has been really inconsistent. I'm still down with him though.
Iguodala 6-8 shooting at the half. 0-2 from 3. Surprise surprise.
One of them was the end of half desperation shot.
can this team lose? jesus they are unreal.
I think Sam had fun on that shot to take the lead
reese are we allowed to like this team yet or not?
Andre Miller = League MVP
Quotereese are we allowed to like this team yet or not?
I dont know what the farg your talking about...you can like them all you want. You make it sound like I said not too, or have ever been on here complaining that they are horrible. The only thing I have ever talked about is the drunk giraffe Dalembert and the trading of Miller for the future. Everyone is playing extremely well and I give them a lot of credit...but it still wont mean squat come playoff time..so enjoy the regular season excitement
and I never realized how much Andre Miller sounds so much like that dude Beetlejuice on Howard Stern
haha reese is mad the sixers are playing well
it wont matter come playoff time nanny nanny poo poo
what a bitch
are u kidding me? stop yourself...please.
I love when you make predictions about how many wins a football team or b-ball team will have when they are winning or losing, but if I say the Sixers wont win in the playoffs--which is the realest prediction out there--Im being a bitch. Joke hypocrite
Im enjoying the ride just like you dreamboy
so thats your big prediction...that sixers wont win the title this year??
and i hate to break it to you but playing well now and getting in the playoffs is a big deal and does matter to a young team....the experience will be invaluable going forward in order to win a championship...you dont miss the playoffs numerous years in a row then pop in and win a title
IGY..I dont know what your trying to preach, who your trying to preach to, and what the hell your talking about
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nice win & a fun game to watch.
miller was money & sammy had a real nice game with some big blocks at the end.
a1 got his 30+, so everybody's happy...right?
awesome pictures.
didnt get the game but did see some of the highlights (when the game was still on) and they showed how he kissed the sixers logo and then the introduction. good stuff.
iverson is my favorite player of time...of course im biased because i started watching basketball when the sixers drafted stackhouse...i even bought those ugly FILAS he sported:(
anyway i was never around to see the other sixers greats so all i remember is iverson and it was great fun to watch the team go from nothing to adding larry brown and then finally making the finals.
of course everything went sour after that but the ride was amazing. i remember the 10-0 and trying to catch every highlight i could since they didnt get many nationally televised games.
still think that mutumbo trade really hurt the team in the long run. but then of course so did the bad contract to geiger, mcolough, snow and mckie. btw what have hughes and tim thomas ever amounted to?
as for who got the better end of the deal...i think it worked well for both teams. iverson is not hurting denver's chances to win a championship...he still averages 26 pts and 7 assists, carmelo's offensive #s are up, and as a offensive team they are one of the better units in the league. the problem has always been the defense i guess they cant figure it out so they wont even make the playoffs. but that same team in the east would be in the top 3 easily.
i just hope the sixers do not get swept by the pistons. ever since larry brown bolted for det i have this unhealthy hate for that team and franchise. sort of like how hunt hates iverson.
Quote from: hunt on March 19, 2008, 10:25:17 PM
nice win & a fun game to watch.
miller was money & sammy had a real nice game with some big blocks at the end.
a1 got his 30+, so everybody's happy...right?
the guy is gone why does it bother you so much?
what are you trying to prove? that iverson is selfish and never cared about winning?
30+pts and 8 assists is damn amazing. i dont know what else you would want out of a SG.
Play of the game:
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Quote from: Magical_Retard on March 19, 2008, 10:27:31 PM
Quote from: hunt on March 19, 2008, 10:25:17 PM
nice win & a fun game to watch.
miller was money & sammy had a real nice game with some big blocks at the end.
a1 got his 30+, so everybody's happy...right?
the guy is gone why does it bother you so much?
what are you trying to prove? that iverson is selfish and never cared about winning?
30+pts and 8 assists is damn amazing. i dont know what else you would want out of a SG.
uhhh...what the hell are you talking about? i said it was a nice win for the sixers...barely mentioned a1.
he had a nice offensive game tonight. good for him.
Quote from: Magical_Retard on March 19, 2008, 10:27:31 PM
Quote from: hunt on March 19, 2008, 10:25:17 PM
nice win & a fun game to watch.
miller was money & sammy had a real nice game with some big blocks at the end.
a1 got his 30+, so everybody's happy...right?
the guy is gone why does it bother you so much?
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if i were racist, i'd be rooting for the boston teams.
Quote from: hunt on March 19, 2008, 10:45:37 PM
Quote from: Magical_Retard on March 19, 2008, 10:27:31 PM
Quote from: hunt on March 19, 2008, 10:25:17 PM
nice win & a fun game to watch.
miller was money & sammy had a real nice game with some big blocks at the end.
a1 got his 30+, so everybody's happy...right?
the guy is gone why does it bother you so much?
what are you trying to prove? that iverson is selfish and never cared about winning?
30+pts and 8 assists is damn amazing. i dont know what else you would want out of a SG.
uhhh...what the hell are you talking about? i said it was a nice win for the sixers...barely mentioned a1.
he had a nice offensive game tonight. good for him.
right you barely mentioned him....
been arguing about him for the past few pages and then threw in a jab to imply he must be happy because he got his pts.
what a shocker. if you asked even his harshest critics (not you because your not reasonable) they would at least give him credit by saying he gives it his all to win the game. never takes a game off.
and then your implying he was happy because he scored? i guess you were in the grp of ppl who said it would never work with him and melo. not enough baskets to go around?
well look at their record...they are still pretty good and in the east would be the top 3 and make a killing. melo's #s did no go down (actually went up) and as a team the offensive unit is one of the best. so that threw that theory right out of the window.
but please do continue with your dislike and hate for him. im sure next you will bring up the practice speech or how he forced the messiah larry brown to leave.
Quote from: SD_Eagle on March 19, 2008, 10:50:51 PM
Quote from: Magical_Retard on March 19, 2008, 10:27:31 PM
Quote from: hunt on March 19, 2008, 10:25:17 PM
nice win & a fun game to watch.
miller was money & sammy had a real nice game with some big blocks at the end.
a1 got his 30+, so everybody's happy...right?
the guy is gone why does it bother you so much?
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i dont know if he is racist but i just wonder about the hate. its borderline insane. iverson has a past...hell most ppl have a past. he isnt perfect...and you can find players in the league who have done worse but never received the same bad rep (jason kidd im looking at you) that iverson did. i guess the tattoos and braided hair really did factor into it.
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Quote from: hunt on March 19, 2008, 10:25:17 PM
nice win & a fun game to watch.
miller was money & sammy had a real nice game with some big blocks at the end.
a1 got his 30+, so everybody's happy...right?
the guy is gone why does it bother you so much?
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i dont know if he is racist but i just wonder about the hate. its borderline insane. iverson has a past...hell most ppl have a past. he isnt perfect...and you can find players in the league who have done worse but never received the same bad rep (jason kidd im looking at you) that iverson did. i guess the tattoos and braided hair really did factor into it.
dead wrong...which seems to be par for the course on here.
i actually liked iverson until all the stuff about him skipping practice started coming out. that's when i started to realize that he just didn't "get" the team concept & what it takes to win as a team & make his teammates better. his attitude seemed to get worse as the years went on & became downright unbearable until he finally forced his way out of town. i couldn't care less about larry brown, braids, or tats. i want my team's franchise player to do everything he can to help his team win games. iverson didn't do that. he was selfish and thought the rules didn't apply to him and his team suffered because of it.
i pointed out his flaws and got called a racist buy a guy who cries racism if his bread isn't toasted dark enough when he orders breakfast at the local diner.
btw, denver is a perfect example of what happens to a team that is full of "individuals" who don't play together as a team. stop looking at stats. they're a borderline playoff team. talent can only get you so far. the spurs & pistons play as a team & they win rings. hopefully, the sixers are headed in that direction now that they're not built around a guy who wasn't interested in that concept.
they dont play together defensively because they are loaded with players who have offensive game but no defensive ability. i think besides camby no one plays defense. that same problem was there before iverson got there.
denver did not add iverson to sure up the defense. for what they added him, another scoring threat besides carmelo, he has worked out.
the team is above .500 and with the record they have most seasons they would at least be the 8th seed. the west is just too loaded and some teams who would otherwise make the playoffs will not.
and how did his attitude become worse since the blowup about practice and the potential trade to the clippers?
you claim a team can not win with a player like him, yet the team went to the finals on his back and faced goliath. you refuse to believe that he cares about winning and losing as long as he gets his. keep bringing up past incidents which have not reoccurred and now condemn him for denver's defensive problems.
ignored the point about him not hurting anyone's game in denver. he is not holding carmelo back (like ppl claimed he did with larry hughes and tim thomas). i guess phx falls under this same category since they play no defense and put up a lot of points. i guess they are also a bunch of selfish players who do not play as a team.
if you look at him compared to other "stars" in the league he is probably the least commercialized athletes. wouldn't it make sense that if he was only about himself he would be out promoting himself all over the place like certain players do? i do not agree with everything he has done either but the one thing i always saw was that he gave it his all.
and what became unbearable for the fans was not iverson, but the losing. i know its a shocker to you but fans did not show up to the games because the sixers were simply not good. did the fans magically show up the day he was traded?
Quote from: hunt on March 19, 2008, 10:52:17 PM
if i were racist, i'd be rooting for the boston teams.
Ironically, Boston is the best defensive team in the NBA and they're fairly balanced in terms of offensive production with the big three averaging 20, 18 & 18.
They're playing excellent team basketball right now, and considering Garnett, Pierce & Ray Allen weren't previously known for being "team first" guys, that's quite an accomplishment.
PS: There are very few hard core Sixers fans in Philly. There's a lot of talkers and bandwagoners, but let's be real here... the Sixers have never drawn well in Philly other than when Iverson was at his prime and Pat Croce was working his magic in the city.
AI tonight showed why he got Philadelphia more than any athlete that has ever played here. I miss him.
Go Sixers
Boston sucks
Quote from: Magical_Retard on March 19, 2008, 11:59:56 PM
they dont play together defensively because they are loaded with players who have offensive game but no defensive ability. i think besides camby no one plays defense. that same problem was there before iverson got there.
denver did not add iverson to sure up the defense. for what they added him, another scoring threat besides carmelo, he has worked out.
the team is above .500 and with the record they have most seasons they would at least be the 8th seed. the west is just too loaded and some teams who would otherwise make the playoffs will not.
and how did his attitude become worse since the blowup about practice and the potential trade to the clippers?
you claim a team can not win with a player like him, yet the team went to the finals on his back and faced goliath. you refuse to believe that he cares about winning and losing as long as he gets his. keep bringing up past incidents which have not reoccurred and now condemn him for denver's defensive problems.
ignored the point about him not hurting anyone's game in denver. he is not holding carmelo back (like ppl claimed he did with larry hughes and tim thomas). i guess phx falls under this same category since they play no defense and put up a lot of points. i guess they are also a bunch of selfish players who do not play as a team.
if you look at him compared to other "stars" in the league he is probably the least commercialized athletes. wouldn't it make sense that if he was only about himself he would be out promoting himself all over the place like certain players do? i do not agree with everything he has done either but the one thing i always saw was that he gave it his all.
and what became unbearable for the fans was not iverson, but the losing. i know its a shocker to you but fans did not show up to the games because the sixers were simply not good. did the fans magically show up the day he was traded?
you're all over the place. i don't care about denver, carmello anthony, the suns, commercials or any of that other nonsense. i'm a sixers' fan.
iverson's last few seasons were a nightmare...he skipped practices, didn't listen to coaches, had no interest in making his team better, and finally cried his way into being traded. that's why i don't like him.
there's nothing more to it than that...and i didn't "claim" half of the things you said i did in your post.
But you did claim that he is in fact a black man, and that is the reason why you hate him.
Quote from: Magical_Retard on March 19, 2008, 11:03:29 PM
i dont know if he is racist but i just wonder about the hate. its borderline insane. iverson has a past...hell most ppl have a past. he isnt perfect...and you can find players in the league who have done worse but never received the same bad rep (jason kidd im looking at you) that iverson did. i guess the tattoos and braided hair really did factor into it.
PO
at leastTW
so on point
and magic dont even bother trying to discuss this with hunt...its pathological with him
I don't understand why anyone would still harbor hate. Be glad he's probably not going to win a championship with his new team either, and enjoy the new Sixers team playing well.
By the way, it looks like the impromptu ovation and Allen's actions were much better than any Sixers-planned "honoring" would have been anyway. So, PG sucks.
Quote from: King Cole on March 20, 2008, 12:59:05 AM
AI tonight showed why he got Philadelphia more than any athlete that has ever played here. I miss him.
yep...hes probably an all time top 5 philly athlete...not mine but the cities...and he definitely was the best sixer ever to watch
last night was just amazing...the return couldnt have gone better and they won the game...still got chills
Quote from: FastFreddie on March 20, 2008, 08:04:02 AM
By the way, it looks like the impromptu ovation and Allen's actions were much better than any Sixers-planned "honoring" would have been anyway.
My only complaint was when they announced his name, it was really awkward and the syllables were broken up. As a fan I would have liked to hear them do the old Alllllleeeeennnnnnn IIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIvvvvveeeeerrrssssssssoooooooonnnnnn!! Sure he doesn't play here no more but farg it its one night.
Quote from: ice grillin you on March 19, 2008, 10:05:00 PM
so thats your big prediction...that sixers wont win the title this year??
and i hate to break it to you but playing well now and getting in the playoffs is a big deal and does matter to a young team....the experience will be invaluable going forward in order to win a championship...you dont miss the playoffs numerous years in a row then pop in and win a title
did you copy and paste this from last years Phillies thread that someone typed to you?
not sure what that even means but no
Quote from: King Cole on March 20, 2008, 12:59:05 AM
Boston sucks
The city does. The fans do. The basketball team does not. Sorry, Corky.
trust me they dont wanna see the sixers in a seven gamer
LOL
This is the 4th time IGY posted about the Sixers beating the Celtics. I mean it cute and all...but let's get serious
Quote from: ice grillin you on March 20, 2008, 08:00:40 AM
and magic dont even bother trying to discuss this with hunt...its pathological with him
the only thing pathological around here are your knee jerk accusations of racism whenever someone disagrees with you.
i made ONE post about iverson.
Quote from: hunt on March 19, 2008, 12:26:06 PM
a1 should be honored for his admirable work ethic and ability to fit into the team concept and make the players around him better.
one post...and a fairly tame post at that....and you immediately started throwing out the racism accusations like the race baiting clown you are.
you're a joke.
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By the way, it looks like the impromptu ovation and Allen's actions were much better than any Sixers-planned "honoring" would have been anyway.
My only complaint was when they announced his name, it was really awkward and the syllables were broken up. As a fan I would have liked to hear them do the old Alllllleeeeennnnnnn IIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIvvvvveeeeerrrssssssssoooooooonnnnnn!! Sure he doesn't play here no more but farg it its one night.
I agree...Matt Cord was on 950 earlier in the day yesterday and basically said that as much as he loved announcing Iverson's name the old way, he said that he "likes his job" so I'm sure that the Sixers told him not to.
The Celtics have beaten the Sixers this year by 10, 27, & 14.
Yeah, I'm sure they're quaking in their sneakers over the prospect of facing the Sixers in a seven game series.
PS: That's just IGY being IGY. No harm, no foul.
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and magic dont even bother trying to discuss this with hunt...its pathological with him
the only thing pathological around here are your knee jerk accusations of racism whenever someone disagrees with you.
i made ONE post about iverson.
Quote from: hunt on March 19, 2008, 12:26:06 PM
a1 should be honored for his admirable work ethic and ability to fit into the team concept and make the players around him better.
one post...and a fairly tame post at that....and you immediately started throwing out the racism accusations like the race baiting clown you are.
you're a joke.
lol @ knee jerk...ive had my eyes on you for a few years...dont try and tone it down now cause a few others have just recently called you out
Quote from: Eagles76ersFan on March 20, 2008, 08:46:24 AM
I agree...Matt Cord was on 950 earlier in the day yesterday and basically said that as much as he loved announcing Iverson's name the old way, he said that he "likes his job" so I'm sure that the Sixers told him not to.
did he really say that about his job...funny shtein
Quote from: FastFreddie on March 20, 2008, 08:04:02 AM
I don't understand why anyone would still harbor hate. Be glad he's probably not going to win a championship with his new team either, and enjoy the new Sixers team playing well.
agreed.
the one & only post i made about iverson wasn't hateful at all. the idiotic responses calling me a racist were.
and i am enjoying the new sixers team. i appreciate the team basketball that a lot of you made fun of a while back.
I think your crime here was using the word "thug". That is automatically racist to IGY.
Plus, like me, he's already pinned you as a racist, so it really doesn't matter what you say or do at this point.
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Quote from: SD_Eagle on March 20, 2008, 08:08:55 AM
Quote from: FastFreddie on March 20, 2008, 08:04:02 AM
By the way, it looks like the impromptu ovation and Allen's actions were much better than any Sixers-planned "honoring" would have been anyway.
My only complaint was when they announced his name, it was really awkward and the syllables were broken up. As a fan I would have liked to hear them do the old Alllllleeeeennnnnnn IIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIvvvvveeeeerrrssssssssoooooooonnnnnn!! Sure he doesn't play here no more but farg it its one night.
I agree...Matt Cord was on 950 earlier in the day yesterday and basically said that as much as he loved announcing Iverson's name the old way, he said that he "likes his job" so I'm sure that the Sixers told him not to.
I sent my mom an email this morning to tell Cord he's a wuss, I haven't heard back but it sounds like a bunch of people were giving him shtein.
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Quote from: King Cole on March 20, 2008, 12:59:05 AM
AI tonight showed why he got Philadelphia more than any athlete that has ever played here. I miss him.
yep...hes probably an all time top 5 philly athlete...not mine but the cities...and he definitely was the best sixer ever to watch
last night was just amazing...the return couldnt have gone better and they won the game...still got chills
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Quote from: ice grillin you on March 20, 2008, 08:50:37 AM
lol @ knee jerk...ive had my eyes on you for a few years...dont try and tone it down now cause a few others have just recently called you out
oh, i know. when i first started criticizing a1 years ago, you immediately played the racism card. it's what you do & what you've always done. and it's just as laughable now as it was back then.
i never, ever posted one racist thing about iverson...never. the "others" you talk about see your accusations and assume there's some basis for it. you'd think they'd know better by now.
i know you take this internet stuff very seriously but in the real world, saying the same thing over & over again doesn't make it true.
Have to agree, Geo. Dr. J > Allen Iverson
Does anyone have the shot of him kissing the court?
Quote from: FastFreddie on March 20, 2008, 08:04:02 AMSo, PG sucks.
Don't try to sneak that shtein in. I saw it.
Bite me.
And it was funny, Matt Cord sort of, kind of, just a TINY bit...had that IIIIVErson in there when they announced him. You could tell he was holding it back. lol
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Quote from: FastFreddie on March 20, 2008, 08:04:02 AMSo, PG sucks.
Don't try to sneak that shtein in. I saw it.
I'm glad you did. Your complaints about the Sixers not doing it up to honor AI were obviously unfounded. The night couldn't have gone any better.
Someone could have gotten shot.
Quote from: Rome on March 20, 2008, 09:22:24 AM
Someone could have gotten shot.
That's how we do in Philly.
it's a shame that c-webb wasn't signed yet back when golden state came to philly...i'm sure the sixers brass would've had some sort of ceremony planned for him.
How did Kyle Korver's welcome back go? Was it breathtaking like Iverson's?
i guarantee hunt loved korver. he was just such a good shooter, and so pretty.....
Quote from: MDS on March 20, 2008, 09:46:10 AM
i guarantee hunt loved korver. he was just such a good shooter, and so pretty.....
i guarantee you've had vigy's balls in your mouth at least 5 times this morning.
and for the record, korver was a one dimensional stiff.
that one dimension? whiteness
Quote from: phattymatty on March 05, 2008, 05:07:53 PM
good trade
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AI is still a pimp. One of the city's all-timers; seeing him kiss the court + the shoe message + the standing ovation was great. To top it off the Sixers won and are now at .500...I can't wait to watch them in the playoffs. I hate missing the games now...
get the package yo
we all aint swimmin in cash like you, king
I considered it, but alot of times I am not home enough to justify spending the cash on it. I will wait for the playoffs since the time is pretty close.
I will be getting the baseball package though. Although I know the times MLB Package picks up the Phils home braodcasts is slim, so hearing Harry wont be too often.
What I really need is farging TiVo...thats my next purchase
if you have a good laptop phreak get the mlb online package its way cheaper than the tv johnson...89 bucks
Quote from: MDS on March 20, 2008, 08:09:44 PM
we all aint swimmin in cash like you, king
its a 170 bucks and you can pay it off in installments...even cats in north philly got it
Quote from: ice grillin you on March 20, 2008, 08:14:11 PM
if you have a good laptop phreak get the mlb online package its way cheaper than the tv johnson...89 bucks
Quote from: MDS on March 20, 2008, 08:09:44 PM
we all aint swimmin in cash like you, king
its a 170 bucks and you can pay it off in installments...even cats in north philly got it
I might do that; I will use my work lap top. Thanks for the heads up
my boys in north philly cant even afford doors for their houses
Quote from: MDS on March 20, 2008, 08:16:21 PM
my boys in north philly cant even afford doors for their houses
thats cause their cake all be going to the nba package son
for all the cats that needs to be followin along here ya'll go
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ghetto_talk
is there a way to watch free nba games online? sopcast was one option to watch the football games but late in the season it really crapped out.
and oh hunt i was going to write a reply till i came across this image:
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im just going to say i guess we do not see eye to eye on iverson. i never thought he was the divisive self absorbed selfish team cancer that you think he is/was.
but i was hoping his return would largely remain positive since the sixers did win and he received a great response from the crowd as i hoped he would.
and yeah i would love to see a image of him kissing the sixers logo. hope denver makes the playoffs as well over some of the teams in the west that i can not stand.
channelsurfing has games...thats the only place i know of...of course audio of all games is free on nba.com
found this one deal where you can stream the game live on windows media player but you have to constantly keep refreshing to get the new code since i guess the service is being monitored.
anyway one last bit on iverson:
http://my.nba.com/thread.jspa?threadID=5700001103 (http://my.nba.com/thread.jspa?threadID=5700001103)
pretty good article.
Quote(Yes, "Ezail" really is his middle name, no wonder he makes a little man scoring amongst the giants look so E-Z.)
Awful.
Quote from: MDS on March 20, 2008, 08:09:44 PM
we all aint swimmin in cash like you, king
THis is the same guy who chastised me for not being able to make it to Eagles games very often. It'd be nice if I had 65 bucks here and there to spare, oh would it.
Quote from: FastFreddie on March 20, 2008, 09:21:51 AM
Quote from: PhillyGirl on March 20, 2008, 09:13:22 AM
Quote from: FastFreddie on March 20, 2008, 08:04:02 AMSo, PG sucks.
Don't try to sneak that shtein in. I saw it.
I'm glad you did. Your complaints about the Sixers not doing it up to honor AI were obviously unfounded. The night couldn't have gone any better.
Not really. The Flyers did something to honor Roenick when he returned to Philly earlier in the year. He was with them for only 3 years. And how many finals did he take the Flyers to? None.
But Roenick was a good guy and a nice person and didn't have any issues at all. So he gets a little tribute. With or without Roenick, the Flyers would have put butts in seats at the Wach. Without Iverson over his 8 year tenure, the Sixers would struggle for 35% in attendence.
the difference is no one gives a shtein about roenick so in order to honor him you had to put on a display because the fans wouldnt have done anything on their own...plus there will never be a day after he retires that roenick is thought of at all by the flyers...where as iverson will have his number retired in what will be a bonkers ceremony that i will be at no matter what
speaking of bonkers...sixers/magic tonight...playoff preview
Quote from: ice grillin you on March 21, 2008, 01:16:33 PM
the difference is no one gives a shtein about roenick so in order to honor him you had to put on a display because the fans wouldnt have done anything on their own...plus there will never be a day after he retires that roenick is thought of at all by the flyers...where as iverson will have his number retired in what will be a bonkers ceremony that i will be at no matter what
Are you arguing my comments, agreeing with them or just making a completely separate statement?
im disagreeing that the reason they didnt honor iverson was because of him being a bad guy or any kind of off the court issues
and also making a general statement cause to be honest im not sure what you were trying to say
Quote from: SunMo on March 21, 2008, 01:18:25 PM
speaking of bonkers...sixers/magic tonight...playoff preview
false. sixers will climb to the 5 seed and get lebron in rd. 1. this team is basically unbeatable these days and cannot be stopped.
id much rather have the magic...no chance stern lets lebron go out in round one and the magic have a point guard and a center that have never won a playoff series...
what the hell does stern care if lebron goes out in rd 1? There are plenty of stories this year in the NBA that make it worth watching other than Lebron James
Anyone going to the game tomorrow night?
Quote from: reese125 on March 21, 2008, 01:46:56 PM
what the hell does stern care if lebron goes out in rd 1? There are plenty of stories this year in the NBA that make it worth watching other than Lebron James
lebron is the nba now and for the next 15 years.....hes jordan part II...he just became the third male in the history of the world to make the cover of vogue...he isnt going out in round one...its just not gonna happen...you must not have watched the playoffs last year
haha. He can be Obama's running mate for all I care.
Stern has no bearing what-so-ever on an outcome. If someone comes in and knocks the Cavaliers out of the first rd, the NBA will not suffer one bit. Your making it look like the NBA will be in a freefall if Lebron James gets ousted in the 1st rd of a playoff game
There are too many good things going on in the West that make up for a missing LJ. You must not have been watching the NBA this year
im not making it look like anything...im telling you the cavs arent losing in the first round no matter what and because of that the sixers dont wanna see them...i dont know how many other ways i can tell you
well just explain this to me again..im confused
Quoteno chance stern lets lebron go out in round one
no...ignorance annoys me
the point to my sarcasm was in hopes you wouldn't and can't. thanks
Quote from: ice grillin you on March 21, 2008, 01:22:21 PM
im disagreeing that the reason they didnt honor iverson was because of him being a bad guy or any kind of off the court issues
Maybe not because of his off court issues but I think that the way everything went down that led to him being traded definitely had something to do with the Sixers not doing anything for him when he came back.
Snyder said that there will be plenty of time for accolades after he (Iverson) retires. But at the same time, Snyder presented Roenick with a Tiffany crystal in a pregame ceremony recently.
Snyder presides over both teams and there's no way you can tell me that Roenick was a bigger impact to the Flyers than Iverson was to the Sixers. And there's no way that you can tell me that Roenick was a bigger overall impact in Philly.
I thought it was rediculously hypocritical for Snyder to have a pregame ceremony for Roenick and not Iverson and I'm certain that it was because of the way that Iverson's career in Philly ended.
Quoteand also making a general statement cause to be honest im not sure what you were trying to say
Make sense now?
i understand it but it doesnt make sense
the reason they did something for roenick is because that was the last time hell ever be in philly...iverson will be back to get his number retired after his playing days are over and it will be astronomically bigger than what they did for jeremy...this isnt hard to figure out
the hard part to figure out is why did they do anything for roenick at all
Quote from: ice grillin you on March 21, 2008, 01:41:08 PM
id much rather have the magic...no chance stern lets lebron go out in round one and the magic have a point guard and a center that have never won a playoff series...
How about now? How many times do the Magic have to assrape the Sixers before you get it into your head that the Sixers don't match up well with them?
4
Magic number down to 7 after last night's win
Quote from: Rome on March 23, 2008, 02:43:01 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on March 21, 2008, 01:41:08 PM
id much rather have the magic...no chance stern lets lebron go out in round one and the magic have a point guard and a center that have never won a playoff series...
How about now? How many times do the Magic have to assrape the Sixers before you get it into your head that the Sixers don't match up well with them?
meaningless regular season game that the sixers laid an egg in...sixers take out the magic in the playoffs...its not even a question
and they will take out the Celtics too...not even a question
Quote from: ice grillin you on March 24, 2008, 08:35:06 AM
meaningless regular season game that the sixers laid an egg in...sixers take out the magic in the playoffs...its not even a question
Four games, four blowouts.
Yep - you're right. Meaningless.
lost by 2
won by 12
lost by 16
lost by 18
one of the coolest pictures ever
(http://assets.espn.go.com/photo/2008/0318/nba_g_jordan_iverson_580.jpg)
please take a look at Iversons mitts...unreal.
Isn't there video of him faking Jordan out of his shorts also?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f9phZOuCPDs
nm--igy got it
Quote from: ice grillin you on March 24, 2008, 11:10:39 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f9phZOuCPDs
Iverson has the best crossover in basketball history.
And anyone that says Tim Hardaways was better is a hater.
Quote from: SD_Eagle on March 24, 2008, 12:55:59 PM
And anyone that says Tim Hardaways was better is a homophobe.
Sixers might want to guard Pierce when he's beyond the arc.
damn, what a comeback. from down 11 to up 5. 16-0 run.
douchebag boston fans booing their own team that has the best record in the league...ha
Breaking news:
Boston isn't coming out of the east.
Nothing to do with tonight either, they just aren't.
this team is simply too good at this point.
That 19-0 run was unreal. Thad Young is just unbelievable. Iggy was awesome. farg you Boston.
Quote from: King Cole on March 24, 2008, 10:06:08 PM
Breaking news:
Boston isn't coming out of the east.
Nothing to do with tonight either, they just aren't.
holy shtein...whats the address to that lady that read your palm tonight Cole?
sixers are now in bostons heads...they were taking them out in the playoffs anyway now its official....how cool would be if we came full circle and heard some beat la beat la chants at the garden this year
The key was dumping Korver.
Quote from: SunMo on March 24, 2008, 09:53:35 PM
douchebag boston fans booing their own team that has the best record in the league...ha
That would never happen in Philly.
great win...and mutha eff the celtics.
it was nice to see iggy take charge & play with some attitude after that frontrunning dikbag pierce was talking trash in the first half.
Hate Pierce, but nice to hear him say that the Sixers will be dangerous in the playoffs.
Quote from: Eagles76ersFan on March 25, 2008, 03:44:50 PM
Hate Pierce, but nice to hear him say that the Sixers will be dangerous in the playoffs.
holy shtein, this guy!
bullets got pounded in portland last night and have a back to back tonight albeit against seattle
but the sixers could jump them in the standings with a win against the bulls tonight and grab the 5 seed
regardless tonight is a big game for them...cause if they lose you might be looking at a three game losing streak with pheonix/at cleveland this weekend
sixers already beat the suns and dre will shut down lebron. this team is unbelievable and cannot lose.
i think the fact that they beat the suns goes against them...just cause doing it twice would be real difficult...if they beat the suns again we might be talking eastern conference finals here
i was under the assumption that the nba finals were a forgone conclusion.
slow ya roll playa...a first round win is all but definite...lets see after that
you be missin teh point son, this team is unreal
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Quote from: ice grillin you on February 10, 2008, 01:08:47 AM
just got back from the sixers game tonight...am i the only one who absolutely loves this team....they need to sign iguodala....the guy is really good and theres nothing he doesnt do...lou williams is the real deal....sammy merked that bald headed faggggggot kaman tonight...carney who i wrote off a long time ago is showing a little bit...overall two years tops and very possibly next year this team is challenging in the east
Ha. You saw them defeat a last-place, one of lowest-scoring, non-existent perimeter defensive teams in the NBA. Not to mention you were half-lit at your first Sixers game this year.
So, here's what Im guessing. You either caught a t-shirt out of the air gun during a time-out or Hip Hop high-fived ya after a back-flip, because to now claim them as challengers in the East next year with what they have now and no acquisitions before the trade deadline is incomprehensible. Nice
T-shirt gun! Classic!
sixers are a literal machine right now
thad and carney should have started the second half...thad at least. i've seen enough of willie green bricking 3s
did you see that stat for him coming into the game
5 for his last 33
then he started tonight 3-8 and made an inexcusable play on that break with iguodala
he def needs to sit
another day another win...frankly this is getting kinda old
stop it
Their D just gets better and better.
that doesn't even make sense
i isnt gonna ax you again
yo check this: sixers are 3 games out the 4 seed. they play cavs on sunday. cavs are @ det on sat nite, sixers hostin phx friday. can you say 1 game out this bitch come monday?
magic number = 5 :yay
QuoteDavid Aldridge: 76ers' Thaddeus Young leaves 'em dumbstruck
By David Aldridge
Inquirer Sports Columnist
This was his shot. This was Thaddeus Young's chance to tell me what morons people were - OK, what a moron I was - to advocate that the 76ers use the 12th pick in last year's draft to take Al Thornton, or Julian Wright, or anybody at all but Thaddeus Young. (Other Youngs would have sufficed: USC's Nick Young. Marcus Welby's Robert Young. Young Jeezy, of the southern rap.)
And here is where Thaddeus Young makes it hard not to like him, for he says that if it had been up to him, he would have taken Al Thornton, too.
"You're not stupid at all," Young said, laughing. "At that time, he was probably the better pick. 'Cause he did more in college than I did. And he was a four-year, a five-year guy. He was a redshirt, I think. He had much more college experience. He had played at high intensity all four years he played at Florida State. He was a great player. I only had one year of college."
You like honesty in a young man, and in a 19-year-old who likely has had people kissing his posterior since the first time he broke someone down off the dribble, it's refreshing.
It's not the first time that Young has been a surprise. His rookie season has laid waste to the conventional wisdom that he, while wildly athletic, was too immature to make an impact this season, too one-dimensional for a club that was rebuilding - like the Sixers, for example.
But Young has defied all that talk, exhibiting his length and speed again last night with 20 points in 26 minutes off the bench against the Bulls, who should be ashamed of themselves. A year after making the Eastern Conference semifinals, Chicago is a joke of a team, not playing defense, not executing, not caring until it is down 20.
Looking a lot like we thought the Sixers would look this season.
But Philly is headed for the playoffs, because its young players, like Young, have come on like gangbusters. The former Georgia Tech star has backed up his self-assurance - "He is supremely confident," Ed Stefanski says - on the court, playing fast and, frequently, above the rim.
When teammates like Lou Williams tried to warn him he would sit for long stretches, Young didn't want to hear it.
"He was like, 'You've just got to wait your turn,' " Young said. "And I was just like, 'Nah, I don't like waiting. I'm impatient.' "
He says this with cheer, not hubris. And ever since December, when Maurice Cheeks lengthened the rotation, Young has been right. He may be an undersize power forward ("It don't look like I'm growing anymore," the 6-foot-8, 220-pounder says), but there aren't many fours in the league who can keep up with him.
What Thaddeus Young becomes is extremely important. If he really can play power forward, the 76ers may not have to dip into those precious millions they'll have this summer (C-Webb, we hardly knew ye, but thanks!) to take a chance on a player like Josh Smith, Atlanta's restricted free agent - or, maybe, a recovering Elton Brand. If Young is the real thing, the Sixers would be small up front, but goodness, would they be fast.
There's just one problem.
Young insists his best position is small forward.
And Andre Iguodala is the current small forward.
And there aren't enough minutes or dollars there for both.
"Right now, I'm playing the majority at the four spot, and I don't see myself playing there," Young said. "I'm willing to play whatever the team wants me to play, but I don't see myself in the future as that being my primary position. That'll be my off position. Right now, I see myself as a small forward."
Cheeks agrees with him, and both also agree that until Young improves his ballhandling and shooting, he's going to play power forward for now.
"He's going to be able to play wherever you put him out on the floor," Cheeks said. "He finds a way to find the ball. He's always around the rim. He defends threes and fours, and obviously fours can't run with him. They can't guard him. But I think his best position is three [small forward]."
It is a ridiculously good problem for the Sixers to have - a glut of talent up front, and a point guard in Andre Miller who dishes out 18 assists, like he did last night, and makes it look easy. And the Sixers have little doubt it will work itself out in time.
You're allowed to be a Pollyanna when you're hurtling toward the playoffs, on the innocent climb, playing free and easy, not a care in the world, able to laugh easily with morons and not at them.
sweet lou williams is on wip right now and its making me wet
wtf?
The zesty Suns just put up 38 on them in the first quarter! ???
Down 38-19 after 1.
the zesty suns?...they are better than any team in the east by far...not saying it wasnt a heinous quarter but it wasnt atlanta who drop 38 on them
absolutely no doubt they come back.
Nova, Sixers and Flyers are all losing tonight.
still down pretty big but iggy just posterized grant hill.
They've far exceeded my expectations especially the last 10 games. I like to think these ass beatings keep them humble.
2 game skid is over. Lou Will was clutch down the stretch.
magic number at 1.
this team is a stone cold mortal lock to win in rd. 1.
the odds are pretty slim, but if the sixers and wiz can keep winning, and the raptors drop a little bit, it could be a 4-5 wizards-sixers matchup. i would crap my pants in glee.
theres also a solid chance of flyers caps in round 1
also awesome.
I would prefer Flyers/Canes.
But I'm not going to be too picky about it. Even getting in is not a given.
Flyers can beat the Canes, not sure about the Caps considering how well they are playing. Lou williams is silky Smoothe
leave it up to the only team in philly worth a damn to provide the good news
toronto and the bullets both lost tonight
ladies and gentlemen your philadelphia 76ers are in a three way tie for 5th place in the eastern conference
and the Pacers got killed in Boston, so the magic number is down to 1 for all of the teams in the 3-way tie
Did anyone see the poll in philly.com today regarding the Sixers MVP?
They listed Sammy as one of the choices and he got 30 votes out of 1779. :-D
the fact that he was even listed has shown his progress this year...good piece in the inky yesteday that had lawrence frank saying hes been the biggest difference maker on the team this year...hes wrong its clearly andre miller but still pretty good praise for the most overpaid guy in the nba
He's in fourth place behind Iggy & even Mo Cheeks. Ouch.
Mo Cheeks is clutch, though.
(https://www.nbrpa.com/news/wherenow/images/mo_cheeks_action.jpg)
Best uni's ever.
I have that exact jersey autographed by Mo
Quote from: SD_Eagle on April 03, 2008, 01:27:46 PM
I have that exact jersey autographed by Mo
Like, the exact exact one in that picture? How can you tell?
Quote from: FastFreddie on April 03, 2008, 01:37:52 PM
Quote from: SD_Eagle on April 03, 2008, 01:27:46 PM
I have that exact jersey autographed by Mo
Like, the exact exact one in that picture? How can you tell?
Its game worn
http://www.philly.com/philly/blogs/phillygossip/Mary_Carey_says_Sixer_Jason_Smiths_a_skilled_smoocher.html (http://www.philly.com/philly/blogs/phillygossip/Mary_Carey_says_Sixer_Jason_Smiths_a_skilled_smoocher.html)
Close game here....I was thankful for the rain delay in the Phils game so I could watch this and the Flyers.
PS...wtFARG with the kid screaming at this game? Sounds like a farging horror movie being filmed.
Andre Miller = team MVP
he's farging awesome.
Quote from: PhillyGirl on April 04, 2008, 09:47:06 PM
Andre Miller = team MVP
he's farging awesome.
There's not a better shot fake in the league
What a pass from Miller and finish by Iggy.
WOOOOHOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!
Mo Cheeks = Coach of the Year?
Playoffs!
lol, Dei Lynam asked Igudola how it feels to be in the playoffs
his response, "We're in?"
(http://www.bowlplayoffseries.com/CollegeSuperBowl/bps_images/tshirt_mora.JPG)
make playoffs
beat boston
win title
sixers and flyers both made the playoffs within 15 minutes of each other
Sweet...I can't wait to see them build on this.
Getting Miller was a great move by King. He's been outta his mind and I like listening to the Houston guys down here cry because they wanted him so badly at the deadline.
i hope the idiots munson and reese finally realize that billy king wasnt a bad general manager...school these young fools phreak
I always thought he got a raw deal. He was hamstrung by Larry Brown's mess. Brown signed garbage to big deals and King had no wiggle room at all.
Now, I will not absolve King for a few bonehead moves ala Kenny Thomas' deal, but he drafted decent. Brown's drafts were trash.
King was not horrible at all. I love Cowherd's show on ESPN Radio, but he always kills King as the worst GM in all of sports
no gm is perfect...billy king was above average
He was an excellent drafter, his short comings came when it was time to extend a players deal. I give him credit for the current nucleus and for doing what he could with just the mle every season.
a few weeks ago Ed Snider basically gave all the drafting credit to Tony DiLeo, but i think that's BS and it's him trying to not look like he fired the GM that put together this playoff team
Sounds like it to me too.
But Stefanski is a guy who can really help them build more. I like how he really scouts guys...especially the eurotrash players
Quote from: SunMo on April 04, 2008, 11:45:56 PM
a few weeks ago Ed Snider basically gave all the drafting credit to Tony DiLeo, but i think that's BS and it's him trying to not look like he fired the GM that put together this playoff team
even if its 100% true it still sounds desperate....just shut up
Quote from: ice grillin you on April 04, 2008, 11:19:40 PM
i hope the idiots munson and reese finally realize that billy king wasnt a bad general manager...school these young fools phreak
My god you really do act like your 24...and your knowledge of basketball shows it.
I look forward to more of your drunk cheerleader posts on how awesome Philadelphia sports are, and how many titles are coming are way. Go IGY!
Quote from: reese125 on April 05, 2008, 12:09:25 AM
I look forward to more of your drunk cheerleader posts on how awesome Philadelphia sports are, and how many titles are coming are r way. Go IGY!
Uhh...I don't think I ever trashed Billy King. If I said anything the most I would have said was it was about time for a change.
Which means now you're 3-3 for retardedness in Philly sports threads. I look forward to your continued stupidity when the Eagles season starts.
thats right you dont even know enough about basketball to even be wrong on it
i think its cute tho that you and your boyfriend reecee are looking forward together
The next person who talks shtein about Billy King is getting punched in the face. He was our general manager and he deserves our respect.
you beautiful drunk bastich
Yeah, because basketball as a whole is a terrible boring sport, with the exception of the laast 2 or 3 minutes of the game.
I have no problem admitting I'm fair weather at best and only watch when the 6ers are going to make/are in the playoffs.
Its boring to the ones that dont know how to play basketball.
The same for golf. The Masters is one if the best televised events on TV. Thats right..I said it.
the final round is ok, and i know how to play golf
I know how to play basketball...and pick up basketball at the park is one of the most fun sports to play.
But it's horrible and boring to watch, and I wish the NBA was dying instead of the NHL.
Quote from: SunMo on April 05, 2008, 12:37:17 AM
the final round is ok, and i know how to play golf
Indian Valley Country Club..whats up?
Quote from: Munson on April 05, 2008, 12:40:58 AM
I know how to play basketball...and pick up basketball at the park is one of the most fun sports to play.
But it's horrible and boring to watch, and I wish the NBA was dying instead of the NHL.
Im not talking about your daily pick ups, playing with the half moon backboard on Saturdays Munson. The all around skill involved with NBA players has to be appreciated to really enjoy it on TV.
I appreciate how skilled they are. I know I can't make a 3 point shot for shtein. In fact I wouldn't even bother playing basketball if I didn't have the ability to jump, because I'm otherwise quite useless as a basketball player.
Basketball players could be the most athletic people alive, no doubt.
But it still sucks and I still wish the NBA died and gave all its ratings to the NHL.
the NHL? Were done here. Good night
Hockey > Basketball. Forever.
But farg it, who cares, Go 6ers.
billy king gave out ridiculous extensions to derrick coleman, aaron mckie and eric snow. after brown left. he also went through 4 different coaches. farg him he was awful.
Quote from: reese125 on April 05, 2008, 12:42:35 AM
Quote from: SunMo on April 05, 2008, 12:37:17 AM
the final round is ok, and i know how to play golf
Indian Valley Country Club..whats up?
ha, not yet
more like Fox Hill, what's up
Quote from: PhillyGirl on April 04, 2008, 09:47:06 PM
Andre Miller = team MVP
Imagine if the Sixers had Miller when Iverson was still with them. Because if I'm not mistaken, Miller was available sometime around 2002/03. Might be off on the year, but I remember him being available sometime in the last 5 or 6 years and really wanting the Sixers to make a run at him. He was having a few injury issues at the time and could have been gotten on the cheap too. Not complaining....just saying.
Its strange...some of these players in the NBA just come into their own, and find their game when they make a change--Andre is one of them.
When he was with the Nuggets he was very spotty and would disappear at stretches at a time...particularly late in the season. There was no real way to tell if he would of been good here with Iverson. We know how good he is without him...that's for sure. Hopefully this year is not a plateau year for him where he trails off..you see it a lot with these guys. Dude is seriously playing out of his mind.
Rumor has it Miller wants to be on the west coast and will bolt as soon as his deal is up. He was at the bums game the other night sporting a bums cap so maybe he's coming around.
miller only has another year or two of top flight productivity anyway...i could care less if he goes then as long as he has fully developed the young guys they have now and you replace him with a good young point
wasnt king involved with a lot of the horrible moves larry brown was responsible for? isnt king larry browns pal?
king is no isiah thomas but he sucked donkey balls nonetheless.
King's gone. He wasn't terrible, and all his "bad" work is gone by now. So forget about it.
Quote from: Magical_Retard on April 05, 2008, 11:56:10 AM
wasnt king involved with a lot of the horrible moves larry brown was responsible for? isnt king larry browns pal?
king is no isiah thomas but he sucked donkey balls nonetheless.
in three years he went from an iverson webber anchor around his neck to one of the best young teams in the nba with the most salary cap room...that just doesnt happen in this league and its all king...has he made some mistakes sure...but what gm doesnt...overall he has done more good than bad
larry brown is a great coach but a horrible personell guy...he never should have been the de facto gm...two words for that darko milicic
Quote from: ice grillin you on April 05, 2008, 11:31:18 AM
miller only has another year or two of top flight productivity anyway...i could care less if he goes then as long as he has fully developed the young guys they have now and you replace him with a good young point
I wouldn't mind seeing him hang around till he's 35. His game isn't built around speed and pg's like him can hang around and be good players till their mid to late 30's.
im not against keeping miller around till hes 40...im just saying it wont sadden me to see them not to give big money to a 33 year old point guard
Right, if they can actually replace him with a point guard.
found this on the racist board...thought some of you might enjoy it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YbRdHXt3LTI
Big Shot>>>>>>>>Hip Hop
AIDS>>>>>>>>>>NBA mascots.
lil g > _________
I don't know who that is. Is he a rapper?
he used to be hip-hops sidekick...he was an albino midget and extremely frightening
typical let down game. would have been huge considering lebrons lost.
When do the playoffs start? Let's step it up, people. I rely on :CF for my Sixers news.
hasnt been announced yet but i believe it will start the 19th/20th
a magic/sixers series have a great chance of going by without anyone noticing.
Except Rome and IGY, who'll be pounding 40's in Laurel, MD.
the magic is such a manly name that im sure rome will be pounding zimas
40 wins
sammy with the nice night and Jason Smith stepped it up.
dont choke against indiana and we got a tru showdown weekend in dc
btw i have one and maybe two $10 sixer tickets for sat night if anyone is down
im in but that means i have to move in with you for good
I hope igy avoids the Flyers game tomorrow. 0-2
sixers have been garbage since they clinched a playoff spot
igy do you still like Willie Green? In the last 12 games, he's shot a blistering 33% (45-135) and clearly can't guard anyone who knows how to dribble a basketball. He's pathetic.
Quote from: SD_Eagle on April 12, 2008, 09:28:27 PM
I hope igy avoids the Flyers game tomorrow. 0-2
this has been pretty much the worst weekend of my life
haha that almost makes it all worth it.
Looks like it's going to be the Pistons in the playoffs again...
Quote from: BigEd76 on April 14, 2008, 12:06:00 PM
Looks like it's going to be the Pistons in the playoffs again...
pretty sure they will be swept.
What a crock of farging shtein. Refs actually reviewed a foul after time had expired even though no whistle was blown. Cavs were down by 1, Sammy snuffed Lebron, Gibson got it and they said Sammy fouled him even though he wasn't anywhere near him. Refs gave the Cavs 2 free throws and game over. More of the reason I hate the farging NBA.
The shame part is Lou Williams was unbelievable tonight...probably his best game ever.
the ref under the basket definitely called the foul and blew his whistle, but then he called the end of the game and shook his head as he walked away. the Cavs players and coach absolutely talked him into reviewing that shtein.
nm
sammy bowled into gibson...
wow. sixers robbed. if this game mattered then id be pissed.
that game is exactly why you dont wanna face lebron in the playoffs...the league is so in the bag for him its embarrassing
sixers in 6 vs detroit
game 1 is sunday
most likely an early afternoon game. the west series will get the late afternoon/prime time spots.
Quote from: ice grillin you on April 16, 2008, 01:23:40 PM
that game is exactly why you dont wanna face lebron in the playoffs...the league is so in the bag for him its embarrassing
How do you figure? The Lebrons are a 4 seed and didn't even lock that up until they beat the Sixers. And Lebron drove to the basket for the gw layup, got blocked and the refs didn't blow the whistle. They let them play. Dalembert running into Gibson was more than just minor contact and Dalembert even knew it immediately afterwards.
It's not like the call that went against Nova vs G'town a few months ago where the ref blew the whistle on a light bump, 70 feet away from the basket. It was a good call by the ref and the crew did a nice job in reviewing to make sure that the foul happened before the buzzer. it was just a tough break for the Sixers, not the refs making sure that Lebron's team won.
Pistons in 5.
Pistons in 2.
Quote from: Sgt PSN on April 16, 2008, 02:04:40 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on April 16, 2008, 01:23:40 PM
that game is exactly why you dont wanna face lebron in the playoffs...the league is so in the bag for him its embarrassing
How do you figure? The Lebrons are a 4 seed and didn't even lock that up until they beat the Sixers. And Lebron drove to the basket for the gw layup, got blocked and the refs didn't blow the whistle. They let them play. Dalembert running into Gibson was more than just minor contact and Dalembert even knew it immediately afterwards.
It's not like the call that went against Nova vs G'town a few months ago where the ref blew the whistle on a light bump, 70 feet away from the basket. It was a good call by the ref and the crew did a nice job in reviewing to make sure that the foul happened before the buzzer. it was just a tough break for the Sixers, not the refs making sure that Lebron's team won.
correct..its just IGY's delusional thinking because Lebron made the cover of Vogue.
if you watched any nba playoffs for the last two years which im pretty sure you two havent then youd know why
ive watched almost all his games and especially his bullet games as they have played the last three years straight and its insane what he gets away with...hes sterns next jordan and the league will do anything to get them to win as many playoff series as possible...just the fact that that cleveland team made the nba finals is insanity
heres a couple classics i just pulled up without even looking....but watch a series with him and youll see the fix is in
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lhbM6uuCt74&NR=1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UBVvfYd9Wbo&NR=1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HHGmgZkdK8A&NR=1
You're starting to sound a lot like this guy. (http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/04/15/AR2008041503637.html?nav=emailpage)
actually flyer fans are the paranoid homers that are always complaining about the refs...wise is just being a pussssie...and im the last guy that would bring something like this up as i hate to ever complain about refs because its super gay....but all you gotta do is watch five minutes of any lebron playoff game and it punches you in the face
Gm. 1: Sun., April 20: at Detroit, 6 p.m. ET (TNT)
Gm. 2: Wed., April 23: at Detroit, 7:30 p.m. ET (NBA TV)
Gm. 3: Fri., April 25: at Philadelphia, 7 p.m. ET (ESPN2)
Gm. 4: Sun., April 27: at Philadelphia, 7 p.m. ET (TNT)
Gm. 5*:Tue., April 29: at Detroit, TBD (TBD)
Gm. 6*:Thu., May 1: at Philadelphia, TBD (TBD)
Gm. 7*:Sat., May 3: at Detroit, TBD (TNT)
Quote from: ice grillin you on April 17, 2008, 11:50:03 AM
Gm. 1: Sun., April 20: at Detroit, 6 p.m. ET (TNT)
Gm. 2: Wed., April 23: at Detroit, 7:30 p.m. ET (NBA TV)
Gm. 3: Fri., April 25: at Philadelphia, 7 p.m. ET (ESPN2)
Gm. 4: Sun., April 27: at Philadelphia, 7 p.m. ET (TNT)
Gm. 5*:Tue., April 29: at Detroit, TBD (TBD)
Gm. 6*:Thu., May 1: at Philadelphia, TBD (TBD)
Gm. 7*:Sat., May 3: at Detroit, TBD (TNT)
W
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L
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farg, i have phillies tix sunday night
will game 2 be on csn? i can't remember if they show playoff games.
they will be on both csn and tnt/espn i believe. i think tnt/espn get exclusive rights to 2 games in the 2nd round, then its all them for the next rounds.
Pistons in 6
Sixers get Marv Albert in game 1. Holla.
YES!
He will probably be wearing pink lace underwear while calling it. MDS< you should get an exclusive with him and ask him if he wants to bite Dei Lynam's ass while she is ball gagged in a maid outfit.
Link (http://insider.espn.go.com/nba/insider/columns/story?columnist=thorpe_david&page=Rookies-080416&action=login&appRedirect=http%3a%2f%2finsider.espn.go.com%2fnba%2finsider%2fcolumns%2fstory%3fcolumnist%3dthorpe_david%26page%3dRookies-080416)
Quote4. Thaddeus Young, Sixers
When all is said and done, Young might turn out to be the second or third best player from this draft class. His upside is sky high, and he's already really good. He has outstanding speed and knows how to use it, and he has a great feel around the rim.
Ultimately, he will reach his peak only if and when he adds a long-range shot to his offensive game. But even if he never develops one, he will be a strong NBA player who can defend multiple positions and provide matchup issues for any opponent guarding him.
Sixers in 6
I'm excited to watch this game tonight. They have to keep Prince in check. I think he's the key to the Pistons winning. And hope Sammy plays smart against Rasheed.
gonna be interesting to see if mo goes long and starts thad on prince with willie coming off the bench...i hope so
tickets available for the 2 home games but i believe they are only downstairs at 150 a pop. the 15 buck ones upstairs and gone.
got my cheapies for next sunday night when they went on sale
thad with 2 defensive plays right off the bat
who saw kima's girlfriend cheryl in that commerical....HOTT
they are not driving to rim enough.
cant settle for jumpers when your the worst 3 pt shooting team and have a bunch of young guys who need to fly to the rim.
they cant drive on detroit...they are only gonna get to the rim on the break which they havent been able to do cause they are giving up to many offensive rebounds...they need to go defensive rebound and then off running...but even thats easier than said then done in the playoffs
theyve also missed 17 layups
way to many missed layups on the fast break. Sixers need to toughen up on the defensive glass
jesus farging christ...where to begin...
1. Detroit is in the penalty...DRIVE the ball to the rim and at least draw the fouls and get to the line.
2. Stop settling for 18 foot jumpers
3. Make the farging FTs!
4. Can ANYONE put a body on Jason Maxiell?!?!
5. Igoudala needs to tighten up his game. You want more than 57M? PLAY like you deserve it. Rainbow jumpers aren't the way to go.
6. Rebound the ball, iceholes.
It's amazing how many people are incapable of spelling 'too' correctly. Or maybe no one actually knows the difference between 'to' and 'too'. Ignorant hicks.
5 pt game.
KILL DETROIT
Quote from: ice grillin you on April 20, 2008, 07:04:03 PM
they cant drive on detroit...
Correction..everybody but Andre Miller can't drive on Detroit.
EVANS WITH THE TURNAROUND FADEAWAY!
it was written!
how the hell was that a foul on williams on the billups shot?
WooooooooOOOOOOOOH!!
How can't you love what Reggie Evans brings to the Sixers.
1-0
wow...what a farging win
Reggie Evans is the POTG, no doubt.
Way to go! Awesome play in the 2nd half and the defense was what got it done.
Very impressive to pull this out despite a lot of mistakes. The missed FTs and offensive boards they gave up could have hurt.
And Sammy charging there was dumb. Play smart.
Quote from: rjs246 on April 20, 2008, 08:04:56 PM
It's amazing how many people are incapable of spelling 'too' correctly. Or maybe no one actually knows the difference between 'to' and 'too'. Ignorant hicks.
Who exactly are you referring to?
dont underestimate mo cheeks recognizing that thad was not ready for the playoffs yet and pulled him early in the third and went with reggie the rest of the way
i specifically remember the 2 possesions...thad got bullied under the boards by mcdeyess twice in a row and never played again until the last possesion for defense
i love this god damn team
It wasn't necessarily Thad wasn't ready, just Evans was beasting all night and you really can't count on Sammy to try hard enough for a rebound.
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on April 20, 2008, 08:50:11 PM
Quote from: rjs246 on April 20, 2008, 08:04:56 PM
It's amazing how many people are incapable of spelling 'too' correctly. Or maybe no one actually knows the difference between 'to' and 'too'. Ignorant hicks.
Who exactly are you referring to?
Quote from: SD_Eagle on April 20, 2008, 07:06:12 PM
way to many missed layups on the fast break. Sixers need to toughen up on the defensive glass
This was the most recent example. But there are hundreds to choose from 'round these parts...
Quote from: Dillen on April 20, 2008, 09:03:49 PM
It wasn't necessarily Thad wasn't ready, just Evans was beasting all night and you really can't count on Sammy to try hard enough for a rebound.
thad was 100% not ready to play...which isnt a knock just a fact...like i said if you taped the game rewatch it and youll see the exact possesions that ended his night...he was getting bullied by playoff veterans and couldnt/didnt respond
what a win! igy get me 1 of them tix for sunday and ill never ever ax you for anything again. ok thats a lie i will but hook me up.
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on April 20, 2008, 08:50:11 PM
Quote from: rjs246 on April 20, 2008, 08:04:56 PM
It's amazing how many people are incapable of spelling 'too' correctly. Or maybe no one actually knows the difference between 'to' and 'too'. Ignorant hicks.
Who exactly are you referring too?
Psh.
Quote from: MDS on April 20, 2008, 09:10:55 PM
what a win! igy get me 1 of them tix for sunday and ill never ever ax you for anything again. ok thats a lie i will but hook me up.
you deaded yourself with not getting me temple joe tix....and if you werent a johnny come lately fan of this team you would have been all over the tix when they went on sale...15 dollars son...come on
ha. i just got 2 for 45 a piece for game 3. someone get me a reggie evans jersey.
ahh, just get back from vacation and watch the sixers win. awesome day. except for the not being on vacation.
Quote from: ice grillin you on April 20, 2008, 09:19:26 PM
Quote from: MDS on April 20, 2008, 09:10:55 PM
what a win! igy get me 1 of them tix for sunday and ill never ever ax you for anything again. ok thats a lie i will but hook me up.
you deaded yourself with not getting me temple joe tix....and if you werent a johnny come lately fan of this team you would have been all over the tix when they went on sale...15 dollars son...come on
see thats why i have you. i dont pay attention to when tix go on sale, so i know youll grab 2 and give me 1. ill promise you a press pass to temple vs. fordham next year in return.
Quote from: phattymatty on April 20, 2008, 09:24:10 PM
ahh, just get back from vacation and watch the sixers win. awesome day. except for the not being on vacation.
you going to ny next weekend for the draft
Quote from: MDS on April 20, 2008, 09:29:03 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on April 20, 2008, 09:19:26 PM
Quote from: MDS on April 20, 2008, 09:10:55 PM
what a win! igy get me 1 of them tix for sunday and ill never ever ax you for anything again. ok thats a lie i will but hook me up.
you deaded yourself with not getting me temple joe tix....and if you werent a johnny come lately fan of this team you would have been all over the tix when they went on sale...15 dollars son...come on
see thats why i have you. i dont pay attention to when tix go on sale, so i know youll grab 2 and give me 1. ill promise you a press pass to temple vs. fordham next year in return.
youll get nothing and like it
i could.
it would be on if you were actually going to draft
Quote from: ice grillin you on April 20, 2008, 09:09:46 PM
thad was 100% not ready to play...which isnt a knock just a fact...like i said if you taped the game rewatch it and youll see the exact possesions that ended his night...he was getting bullied by playoff veterans and couldnt/didnt respond
I remember them. I think it didnt have as much to do with it being the playoffs, just that Thad can't handle a vet who knows all the tricks and is still a good athlete (like McDyess) in the post yet. Maxiell killed everyone tonight too, someone has to figure out how to stop him this series.
Quote from: SunMo on April 20, 2008, 09:43:23 PM
it would be on if you were actually going to draft
wah
Quote from: Dillen on April 20, 2008, 09:51:58 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on April 20, 2008, 09:09:46 PM
thad was 100% not ready to play...which isnt a knock just a fact...like i said if you taped the game rewatch it and youll see the exact possesions that ended his night...he was getting bullied by playoff veterans and couldnt/didnt respond
I remember them. I think it didnt have as much to do with it being the playoffs, just that Thad can't handle a vet who knows all the tricks and is still a good athlete (like McDyess) in the post yet. Maxiell killed everyone tonight too, someone has to figure out how to stop him this series.
reason number 436 why they need a real nba four
Are you losers going to the draft? If so, see y'all there.
Oh yea, Go Sixers.
Thad made some plays today. Hitting open jumpers and playing like he did early says a lot about him. He very well could have choked it up ala Keith Van Horn, but he stepped up about as much as one can ask right now.
He did get out-muscled later on and Mo made the right move getting him out.
I'd also like to pat myself on the back for pimping Reggie Evans back when he was with the Sonics as I guy I would like to see them get. I love his energy on the boards.
Evans should never touch the ball on offense. His game today was pure luck, not that I'm complaining.
Quote from: Die-Hard on April 21, 2008, 12:03:02 AM
Are you losers going to the draft? If so, see y'all there.
Oh yea, Go Sixers.
not to the draft itself but to ny for the draft...if you wanna get some beers hit me up
mo cheeks needs to get a long term deal yesterday
The Sixers wanted that game so much more than the Pistons, it wasn't even funny.
Too bad Detroit is likely going to want the next 4 a lot more.
And let's face it, it was kind of funny.
with the exception of evans & willie green, the sixers didn't even play particularly well yesterday. it's amazing that they won that game.
team basketball!
Quote from: hunt on April 21, 2008, 09:15:34 AM
with the exception of evans & willie green, the sixers didn't even play particularly well yesterday. it's amazing that they won that game.
team basketball!
You're like IGY with the Eagles/Philies/Flyers...only with the Sixers.
Only in Philly would 99% of the iceholes who "root" for their teams whine and bitch the day after a huge playoff win on the road. They won. Who farging cares how they did it.
They were down FIFTEEN points to the Pistons ON THE ROAD and came back and won.
Evans and Green weren't the only ones who did that. ::)
yeah pretty much detroit played worse than the sixers did
no reason this series shouldnt be 2-2 leaving philly
sixers in six
Quote from: PhillyGirl on April 21, 2008, 09:23:10 AM
Quote from: hunt on April 21, 2008, 09:15:34 AM
with the exception of evans & willie green, the sixers didn't even play particularly well yesterday. it's amazing that they won that game.
team basketball!
You're like IGY with the Eagles/Philies/Flyers...only with the Sixers.
Only in Philly would 99% of the iceholes who "root" for their teams whine and bitch the day after a huge playoff win on the road. They won. Who farging cares how they did it.
They were down FIFTEEN points to the Pistons ON THE ROAD and came back and won.
Evans and Green weren't the only ones who did that. ::)
tulips and rainbows unicorns and puppies
No, I'm not blowing sunshine and rainbows here IGY, but wtf?
HUGE win and all I see is, "Pistons win the next 4"..."they all played like shtein but Evans and Green".
What they did last night was awesome and all I see is whiny bitches complaining about how they did it.
pretty sure sarge was half kidding
and its a fact that they didnt play very well
great win doesnt mean you played great
Find me where I said they played great?
I said it was a GREAT WIN. HUGE win. Improbable win.
You don't play like utter shtein and come back from 15 points down.
Nice win from the Sixers. Yesterday's game was the first Sixers game I watched from start to finish in forever. I thought they played very well against a very good Pistons team especially in the second half. Not sure why anyone is complaining here, actually.
the point is that before the game if someone had predicted that the sixers were gonna win youd have to assume they played almost a perfect game....they didnt and still got it done...its definitely worthy of discussion and i dont think anyone said they played like shtein
Quote from: PhillyGirl on April 21, 2008, 09:23:10 AM
Quote from: hunt on April 21, 2008, 09:15:34 AM
with the exception of evans & willie green, the sixers didn't even play particularly well yesterday. it's amazing that they won that game.
team basketball!
You're like IGY with the Eagles/Philies/Flyers...only with the Sixers.
who the hell is complaining? they didn't play well and still won. that's a good thing.
if they can pick it up & start playing like they did the past couple months, they have a real shot at winning the series.
The Pistons are clearly the better team, though, so any win, no matter how it came about should be celebrated rather than analyzed to death. That's all I'm saying and without speaking for PG, I think that's what she's saying too.
Whatever, though. Still a nice win and I hope the Sixers keep beating the Pistons to death.
Quote from: ice grillin you on April 21, 2008, 09:28:20 AM
pretty sure sarge was half kidding
Half kidding, half serious, indeed. I still think the Pistons will win the series and I also think that Detroit had a serious wake up call last night and will respond well in game 2, which will probably carry them through the rest of the series. Maybe the Sixers manage to steal a 2nd game at home. But when Detroit is playing at the top of their game, the Sixers can't keep up. I'm not saying that to knock the Sixers but they simply aren't at that level yet.
Quote from: Rome on April 21, 2008, 09:41:53 AM
The Pistons are clearly the better team, though, so any win, no matter how it came about should be celebrated rather than analyzed to death.
incorrect...the sixers have a good chance to win this series and i expect nothing less...so excuse me if i analyze it from the perspective of them playing better in the coming games and egads! actually winning some of them
And you call me a homer.
Jesus Christ, man.
The Sixers have a good shot in this series because they get out there on the fast break, they did well with that in the first half they just couldn't convert on their layups. Detroit is a veteran club and play a slower game especially on defense. That said, Rasheed owned Sammy bigtime in the first half - what was especially hilarious about that is how Sammy was bragging on the pregame show how he shut sheed down the first time they met in the playoffs. Detroit had way too many offensive rebounds, iggy didn't play well...I don't care what his final stat line says. Andre Miller was very average in the first half. The Sixers can play better. Detroits been around the block and I expect them to easily handle the Sixers the next game. The way the Sixers respond at home will determine what they do for the rest of the series. I said Sixers in 6 before the game because I'm optimistic, the Sixers have shown in the regular season they can hang with Detroit, and I think having a veteran point guard like Miller with a bunch of athletic guys who can get out there on the fast break is kryptonite to Detroits defense.
Quote from: Rome on April 21, 2008, 09:33:18 AM
Yesterday's game was the first Sixers game I watched from start to finish in forever.
Quote from: Rome on April 21, 2008, 09:41:53 AM
The Pistons are clearly the better team, though,
this is the most fun team to watch in the nba right now.
the key to yesterdays game is the sixers as the youngest team in the league had the highest level of on the job training you can get and they won...now im not saying that elevates them to the level of detroit as far as being thru the nba playoff rigors but damn if they didnt grow up a lot yesterday...
a lot of the nerves are now gone...and its more about who plays the hardest and executes the best...im with sd in that i think the sixers get run out of the building in game two....but they will come back and win at least one at home
i just don't think the pistons have the offensive game to run the sixers out of the building. i know they were up 15 yesterday, but that was more a result of the sixers missing layups and giving the ball away. the pistons style doesn't really allow them to blow out many team, imo.
Controlling Billups and Hamilton like they did lastnight is what will keep them from getting run out of the building. They were very quiet lastnight.
i dont mean run out fo the builing like they are gonna score 147...but wednesday will be like 94-71 or something like that
Quote from: SD_Eagle on April 21, 2008, 10:30:00 AM
Controlling Billups and Hamilton like they did lastnight is what will keep them from getting run out of the building. They were very quiet lastnight.
hamilton was practically invisible all night last night
sometimes you can't see him from the side. he weighs 12 pounds.
Quote from: phattymatty on April 21, 2008, 10:35:33 AM
sometimes you can't see him from the side. he weighs 12 pounds.
But the glare from that creepy facemask is enough to keep him visible.
and he wears an invisible mask
he was a ghost in the first half and in the second half he just couldnt hit a shot....including a lot of open ones
ill tell you what tho the sixers in the first half missed a ton of shots at the rim..its funny hearing sheed post game talk about all the easy ones he missed and he wont do that again...which may be true but he totally ignored the fact that the reason the pistons got out to a lead in the first place was the sixers incredible inability in the first half to finish...write that off to nerves and realizing that going to the hole in playoffs is not the same as the regular season..you have to expect to get hit in the playoffs not get the call and still finish...they gotta grow up fast and i think they will
a couple key notes here:
1) Hamilton was invisible, but he has not played well all season. You usually see him coming off the curl ALL game long but he's just not the same this year--could be a huge factor
2) A lot of talk here about the Sixers not playing well; take in the fact the Pistons did not play well. They have the 2nd best record in the league for a reason and they missed a lot of uncharacteristic shots--including free throws
3) I want Dalembert run over by a Septa bus by mid-afternoon tomorrow
4) The Sixers are one of the best fast break teams, and can exploit Detriot in that area. Detriot does have a hard time getting back, and would rather play the half court D any day of the week. The Sixers need to be on the run, so I look for them to steal 1 more just for that reason.
If you looked at the demeanor of Detroit players and even the bench, they were way too cool, calm, and collective. They did not take the Sixers serious in their own building, and it took the last 3 minutes of the game for them to wake up-- even by then it was too late.
The Sixers intensity on D is no joke, and I think they keep this series very close...but the experience might be too much in the long run
Quote from: reese125 on April 21, 2008, 11:26:15 AM
a couple key notes here:
1) Hamilton was invisible, but he has not played well all season. You usually see him coming off the curl ALL game long but he's just not the same this year--could be a huge factor
2) A lot of talk here about the Sixers not playing well; take in the fact the Pistons did not play well. They have the 2nd best record in the league for a reason and they missed a lot of uncharacteristic shots--including free throws
3) I want Dalembert run over by a Septa bus by mid-afternoon tomorrow
4) The Sixers are one of the best fast break teams, and can exploit Detriot in that area. Detriot does have a hard time getting back, and would rather play the half court D any day of the week. The Sixers need to be on the run, so I look for them to steal 1 more just for that reason.
If you looked at the demeanor of Detroit players and even the bench, they were way too cool, calm, and collective. They did not take the Sixers serious in their own building, and it took the last 3 minutes of the game for them to wake up-- even by then it was too late.
The Sixers intensity on D is no joke, and I think they keep this series very close...but the experience might be too much in the long run
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yeah chauncey missing 3 straight free throws near the end of the 4th was crazy. i think dude is like 2nd in the league behind peja.
and sammy's charge during that last minute was brutal. how can you be so tall and hit the bottom of the rim with the ball?
it looked like chauncey had something wrong with his hand...he was missing the FTs and then checking his hand
Quote from: ice grillin you on April 21, 2008, 11:28:37 AM
Quote from: reese125 on April 21, 2008, 11:26:15 AM
a couple key notes here:
1) Hamilton was invisible, but he has not played well all season. You usually see him coming off the curl ALL game long but he's just not the same this year--could be a huge factor
2) A lot of talk here about the Sixers not playing well; take in the fact the Pistons did not play well. They have the 2nd best record in the league for a reason and they missed a lot of uncharacteristic shots--including free throws
3) I want Dalembert run over by a Septa bus by mid-afternoon tomorrow
4) The Sixers are one of the best fast break teams, and can exploit Detriot in that area. Detriot does have a hard time getting back, and would rather play the half court D any day of the week. The Sixers need to be on the run, so I look for them to steal 1 more just for that reason.
If you looked at the demeanor of Detroit players and even the bench, they were way too cool, calm, and collective. They did not take the Sixers serious in their own building, and it took the last 3 minutes of the game for them to wake up-- even by then it was too late.
The Sixers intensity on D is no joke, and I think they keep this series very close...but the experience might be too much in the long run
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oh theres no question you did young boy...and your wearing that pic out worse then your attempts at humor
your and your
Mo, cmon kid--i type too fast to be worrying about the CF grammar championships
thanks for pointing that out though--well noted
i'm here to help
If the Sixers can run again and take advantage of hitting their open layups, then have a legit shot. Detroit wants to grind it out. The most frustrating thing was seeing the Pistons get so many offensive boards. Jason Maxiell should not almost have a double double at the half ever again.
Sportsline.com poll:
Do the 76ers have a shot at winning the series?
19085 votes....50/50
Frustrating first half. Much of the same issues as the other day...
Igoudala is cold and taking dumb shots.
They are letting rebounds go to the Pistons
Letting Detroit get to the rim way too easily.
Can't find a way to push the ball up the court.
Come on fargers, step it up.
getting rocked. kind of figured this was gonna happen.
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on April 23, 2008, 08:43:46 PM
They are letting rebounds go to the Pistons
2 offensive rebounds by the Pistons, one by Rip Hamilton in between 3 Sixers. Rip takes a jumper, blocked. Pistons get the rebound and kick it out to Billups for a wide open 3.
Pretty much sums up the whole game right now.
sam and iguodala are absolutely dreadful
saunders made a great adjustment by putting rip on andre instead of chauncy...rip promptly got all in his chest from the tip took him out of the game and that was all she wrote...mo's gotta come back with something new for next game
My thoughts of Carney have done a complete 180 this year. I hated him after the summer league and beginning of the year, but after his good finish to the year and showing up today I'm starting to like him. He's obviously not as good of a shooter as Korver but contributes much more. It'd be nice to keep him around as the 3rd wing player.
yeah, my sentiments as well. I had Carney pretty much getting ousted from the squad, but he's showing much more versatility than I thought.
He has improved tremendously from the outside--and even if he doesnt do much the rest of this series--the playing time he got the 2nd half of the season did wonders for his game
this team is also dreadful at free throw shooting. that wont hurt them in the playoffs.
Credit the Pistons for coming out and playing like they did. They controlled it from the tip.
However, the Sixers effort tonight was pitiful. Igoudala has not played well at all. Like I said the other day, if you want All-Star cash, play like you deserve it.
Thad looks confused out there.
The goddamn rebounding is driving me insane. There's no reason that Antonio McDyess and Jason Maxiell should be pulling down boards like they are. Especially offensively. farg.
The FT shooting is poor and if they want any shot of upsetting them, they have to convert on the FTs.
Rodney Carney can be a contributor no doubt. I love his ups and his energy he plays with.
Pull your heads out, dipshteins. Play some ball.
didnt get to see the game...
hope fridays game is on national tv and not on nba tv.
Larry Brown resigned as the executive vice president today
I wonder if he wants to go back to the Knicks now that Isiah is "gone. "
Kudos to him though......this is probably the first time since he's been in the NBA that he left a team that was in better shape than when he got there.
He didn't do shtein but sit on his can and make a check and fondle Snider's balls.
Watching the Pistons own that ass last night may have driven him to drinking heavily.
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on April 24, 2008, 07:16:59 PM
He didn't do shtein but sit on his can and make a check and fondle Snider's balls.
Which is why the team is better off now than when LB got here.
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on April 24, 2008, 07:16:59 PM
He didn't do shtein but sit on his can and make a check and fondle Snider's balls and go to Villanova practices.
Anyone goin tonight?
to fondle Snyder's balls?
yes
Per Jasner on DNL : Mo was fined 25K by the league for not leaving the court in a timely manner and for making disparaging remarks to the refs. The NBA is a farging joke.
up 4 at the half...
iguodala is still a non factor, prince has basically taken him out of the game, he basically is forced to just chuck up prayers at this point.
sammy was much better tonight than in the first two games...active on the boards, little bit of scoring, and just showing the overall energy that they need.
lou williams needs to play most of the 2nd half, the offense is much better with him in because it presents the pistons with a match up problem. hamilton has to either cover lou or miller and which ever one he doesn't cover is able to operate in the offense a little more free. plus, lou give them another ball handler on the floor which willie isn't.
reggie evans is playing another good game, his steal on sheed in the post was pretty.
Great first half despite Iguodala. Reggie Evans is doing awesome once again. I really like all the young guys on this team, and they all go max effort. They must have like 10 steals already. It appears Willie Green is very effective in limited time. I love the situation at SG/SF.
it's incredible how bad iguodala is right now...he can't catch an alley oop, he can't throw one, the pistons are totally in his head
i think the pistons have posted sheed up about once tonight...amazingly bad coaching by flip
He's posted up 3 times so far where he all turned the ball over. The Sixers know what he's going to do so they always get a double team from somewhere he doesn't expect. I'm loving this right now.
wow...reggie got his shtein stuffed there
I like how the entire game the announcers were downplaying how well the Sixers were playing. Especially how they're an average defense. Yeah, an average defense causes 25 turnovers and collects 15 steals.
what a farging win...
Beat down. I wonder if Sammy was having fun tonight.
sixers in 5 instead of 6. this team is outrageously good at this point. kinda sad that they couldnt sell out, though. shouldnt be a problem come sunday. some grimy drunk guy fell on me at the end of the 3rd. im about 99% sure it was diehard.
If he threw up on you it was definitely him
:-D
Now that is MUCH better. It was so nice to see them playing with fire tonight, especially Sammy. And Reggie Evans and Andre Miller are the guys who get the most credit for keeping them going (and Mo. Cheeks, not Sun). Those two guys are doing everything right.
Igoudala really needs to get his shtein going though. I can understand struggling against Prince and being doubled, but do not heave up junk shots. Pass it off and wait for the time for when you can drive it to the rim.
But it is apparent as ever that he cannot create his own shot from distance.
Keep it up, boys. This could be a lot of fun to watch.
he was bald, had a goatee and a trashy leg tattoo. i just figured.
you just described his exact opposite
my boy just told me he saw Lito at the Sixers game lastnight
Lito and a 5th for Dalembert?
Can he run a fade?
insert random munson reference here
for real, though, that was an impressive defensive performance last night. detroit looked clueless in the third quarter. oh, and speaking of die-hard, he sent me a text last night mocking detroit. i felt bad by responding "go magic!" afterwards.
everyone in yet?
It's funny that in November we all wanted the Sixers to lose to get Beasley or Rose, and now they could beat one of the best teams in the league in playoffs.
we didnt want anything
Quote from: SD_Eagle on April 26, 2008, 08:47:16 AM
Can he run a fade?
No, but his post is above average.
Quote from: Sgt PSN on April 21, 2008, 09:12:52 AM
Too bad Detroit is likely going to want the next 4 a lot more.
Shows what I know. I really thought that after blowing a double digit lead in the 2nd half that Detroit would wake up and play at the top of their game for the rest of the series and that the only way the Sixers win another game would be if they stepped up and played not only their best basketball, but better than their best. That certainly wasn't the case last night because Detroit did not play anywhere near their best ball and the Sixers took advantage.
I still think Detroit wins the series but I definitely don't think it's a given anymore. The Sixers are in their heads and that has to be a cause for concern.
Quote from: ice grillin you on April 26, 2008, 11:17:19 AM
we didnt want anything
So you expected them to do well in the playoffs?
Anyone going on Sunday?? I used to have a ticket connection earlier in the year (pre Korver trade). I haven't seen them in person since that trade so I'm pumped.
Also, a lot of analysts were stating that Iguodala deserved more then the extension he rejected in the offseason. However, after these first three games, is that necessarily true. I don't think a number two deserves number one money, but I don't want to see him go. Draft a backup center, and trade for that low post prescense and I think we'd be well on our way.. especially after seeing how they are playing thus far in the playoffs.
Larry Brown to coach the Charlotte Bobcats
remember when all you people were making fun of team basketball?
that was awesome.
Are the Nuggets doing well in the playoffs?
does your local kkk team play team basketball, hunt?
vigy told you to post that, didn't he?
mr. havas tells me lots of things but i figured out that you were a racist all on my own.
figured out = saw vigy post it once.
you two clowns need a new schtick...calling everyone who disagrees with you a racist is getting old. i blame the wire.
cerevant disagrees with me but hes not a racist. hes just crazy. and canadian. and stupid.
you are racist. and ignorant. and kind of creepy.
Quote from: MDS on April 27, 2008, 12:44:24 AM
cerevant disagrees with me but hes not a racist. hes just crazy. and canadian. and stupid.
you are racist. and ignorant. and kind of creepy.
i won't argue creepy...and ignorant is up for debate...but racist?...not even close. funny part is...you two have made more racist posts than anyone on here.
but then again, i don't expect a kid who watches 20 hours of tv a day to be able to differentiate between reality and fiction. you've basically become vigy lite on this board...make silly, outlandish claims to start arguments and score cool points with each other.
the guy who said he actually comes here for serious conversations and debates and his lackey who does nothing but watch tv...you two really have your fingers on the pulse of the problem of racism on the internet.
good luck with that.
go sixers!
Quoteyou've basically become vigy lite on this board...make silly, outlandish claims to start arguments and score cool points with each other.
word
tell em mini havas....pennsyltuckians get the gas face
you do realize that havas is rich as a mofo and is "down" with all the brothas in the hood? now tell me, klansman, why would i not want to be that?
you would.
being a racist clown is a step up for you.
http://www.topix.com/forum/state/pa/T1E4SB14FNBK38IEO
team basketball's for Romes. Romes, i say!
mcdyess participated in detroit's shootaround this morning but will be a gametime decision. more maxiell and theo if mcdyess doesn't go.
Will he wear the gay facemask like Hamilton? It angers me when I see him still wearing that. Why? I don't know.
Someone should catch him in the schnozz again.
Quote from: hunt on April 27, 2008, 01:26:03 PM
you would.
being a racist clown is a step up for you.
He's jooish. Being dead is a step up.
Go team!
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on April 27, 2008, 03:35:42 PM
Will he wear the gay facemask like Hamilton?
yep...he'll wear a mask.
prince is the guy on that team who should be wearing a mask.
Quote from: Sgt PSN on April 27, 2008, 03:38:29 PM
Quote from: hunt on April 27, 2008, 01:26:03 PM
you would.
being a racist clown is a step up for you.
He's jooish. Being dead is a step up.
Go team!
i laughed a lot.
I'm excited...I really hope they can come out smokin again. No more game two type shtein. And for the love of god can Iggy please play well tonight?
This has been one hell of a game so far. Everyone is going off. Iguodala is shooting well. Jason Smith hit a turnaround fadeway 20 footer. Lou Will had a great pass to Smith for a dunk and then had a fastbreak dunk the next possession.
Detroit looks tired
The city, or the Pistons?
Rip Hamilton is such a douche for still wearing that mask
I love the way they are playing, although they did not finish the half strong. The good news about that is Detroit is so self destructive now that they could not capitalize on the Sixers poor run there.
Stupid fouls, careless turnovers, Angry Sheed, its all falling apart for them.
Come out strong in the second.
I like how everyone is playing. Sam has been strong, but he faded after that hot start. Stay active on the boards, please. DET got some o-boards there at the end of the half and I hate seeing that.
I love how Detroit keeps trying to slow the Sixers down and the Sixers just keep flying past them
sixers scored one point in the last four minutes and still lead by 10...pretty nutty
detroit's defense is insane right now
I am so tired of seeing Detroit get those offensive rebounds. It's a shame when guys like Stuckey come down with balls and give them extra shots. Where has Sammy been?
* Have to find a way to beat Detroits trap. It killed them in the half-court set in game two and it is killing them now. Obviously the way to beat that is to run, but they can't do it all the time. They have to find ways to score in the half-court sets.
* Rebound
* Stop leaving Evans out on the top of the key against Billups.
Lets go Sixers...keep Sheed in check on those deep three's, rebound and play defense!
iggy is playing like a mongoloid. he airballed a finger roll a little while ago.
Series tied 2-2 now. Now they have to win 1 at Detroit. It's possible, but I'm a lot more worried.
When Detroit turns it on like they did in the 2nd half there aren't many teams that can beat them.
damn.
im feelin pistons in 7 now. figure they cant play at that level to win the next two, but i highly doubt they gonna let things slip past in game 7.
this team is missing two things: a solid pf and someone who can hit foul shots. also a brain for andre iguodala because he seriously needs to realize that he aint doing shtein on prince.
Agreed.
The foul shooting is terrible, Iggy is simply just a slashing guy who needs to be able to drive or else he cannot do shtein, the rebounding was poor, Sammy disappeared and a plethora of other things.
I thought they would win this game and thus win the series, but now I am worried too.
The goddamn trapping is what kills them. You'd think with DET committing two guys to the ball like that the Sixers would be able to find a guy to drive to the lane with the ball on a pass.
I don't like it when Miller doesn't bring the ball up the floor because he is about the only one who can break the trap with a great pass.
I get sick of seeing them beaten on the boards. I have said it a million times but jesus. Oh, and I hate Rip, McDyess, Prince and Billups. farg 'em.
Did Reggie Evans bang Dunleavy's wife or something? He was ripping him all night on the broadcast.
Quote from: MDS on April 27, 2008, 09:54:24 PM
im feelin pistons in 7 now. figure they cant play at that level to win the next two, but i highly doubt they gonna let things slip past in game 7.
this team is missing two things: a solid pf and someone who can hit foul shots. also a brain for andre iguodala because he seriously needs to realize that he aint doing shtein on prince.
their biggest deficiency is the lack of a shooter or two...it kills them when they get down in the second half as they have no means by which to come back without the use of the 3 pointer
I'll state the obvious and say the Sixers lost the series last night.
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on April 28, 2008, 01:11:21 AM
Did Reggie Evans bang Dunleavy's wife or something? He was ripping him all night on the broadcast.
I love Reggie Evans but he tries to hard and plays outside of his skill level. Stop trying to steal the damn ball from guards and taking unnecessary fouls because you're an unathletic power forward who should be concentrating on getting defensive rebounds.
Anyone else feeling Thad to start at the 3 and a sign and trade using Iggy this offseason
Quote from: ice grillin you on April 28, 2008, 09:40:59 AM
Quote from: MDS on April 27, 2008, 09:54:24 PM
im feelin pistons in 7 now. figure they cant play at that level to win the next two, but i highly doubt they gonna let things slip past in game 7.
this team is missing two things: a solid pf and someone who can hit foul shots. also a brain for andre iguodala because he seriously needs to realize that he aint doing shtein on prince.
their biggest deficiency is the lack of a shooter or two...it kills them when they get down in the second half as they have no means by which to come back without the use of the 3 pointer
carney can hit the 3, but not amazingly well. still, if this hit team hit their ft's at a reasonable rate that there would have been a game in the final minutes.
iggy is going to get a ball stuck in the rafters before this series is over.
I really like Iggy's athleticism but he's really like Shawn Marion minus the shooting ability.
hes better than shawn marion and really not at all like him
Quote from: Sgt PSN on April 28, 2008, 07:48:40 PM
I really like Iggy's athleticism but he's really like Shawn Marion minus the shooting ability.
Wow....worst comparison ever.
Athletic forward that disappears during the playoffs? I didn't think I'd have to actually spell it out.
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i'm nervous about tonight. iggy needs to really step it up and sammy needs to stop playing like someone who just started playing ball a month ago. tonight's winner wins the series.
sammy rocking a sweet frohawk
it all but guarantees that he goes off tonight
thankfully iggy is still playing like a big vagine.
wizard sleeve
after the first two turnovers, ai looks pretty good. considering how good the pistons shot, the sixers could be in much worse shape.
"SL" is his girlfriend....who is my roomate's girlfriend's sister's friend. yea, that.
was a fun season while it lasted.
re-sign lou williams
sign and trade using Iggy for a PF
Thad goes to the 3
I think we'll force it to seven. Well I hope we do. We couldn't sell out on Friday or Sunday, so the arena might be half empty come Thursday.
I'd S+T iggy for josh smith, but there's no way in hell Atlanta would. Did you see that stat last night regarding the most blocks at the age of 22. Josh Smith had like 288, ahead of everyone noteworthy.
I think we need a go to scorer. Lou Williams is to an extent, but we need a full time, 40 minutes a night guy. Last night, watching the Hawks and Joe Johnson, that fact became painfully evident. When we desperately need a bucket, we have no one to score it.
I think we need to sign and trade Iggy for a go to scorer 2 guard, and a sign a PF like Brand. Howeve,r if we had a guy like Brand, maybe it would take away the pressure/doubles on Iguodala and he'd be playing where he belongs as the number 3 option behind Brand and a maturing Thaddeus.
Looks like my anger at my company for making me travel yesterday and today was misguided. I was mad that I would miss the game tonight. And that I had to spend two days in Louisville.
The dagger goes in for good game 6. I'll be shocked if they win it. But I like the way they played, and it gives the young guys experience.
A PF who can rebound and has some type of inside presence is needed.
Igoudala shat all over himself this series.
i am still on the PF badwagon as they definitely need one but after watching this series they need someone who can knock down jumpers even more than that...they have the scorers...they need shooters in the worst way...especially in the playoffs when the games slows down to a half court crawl
Everyone keeps throwing Brand's name out there, which means you can bet there is no shot at him coming here. He will require a monster contract--even with his past injury
Another guy to look at is Brandon Bass of the Mavericks. Unlike Reggie Evans, this guy can score....and rebound his ass off when given the minutes. It might also be enticing for him because he comes off th bench and would start here. Being the Sixers are not contenders yet, he would be a very nice fit to keep the youth movement going forward
Antwan Jamison is another big name--but Gilbert already offered to take less money in order to keep Butler, Jamison and himself together
The scorer that everyone might want can be Corey Magette, and I think his time is up in LA
sammy is the biggest waste of space. he has to be one of the most uncoordinated people in the nba. watching him go against rasheed was like watching a nba'er going against a middle schooler.
willie also needs to go.
that was hard to watch last night. you knew when chauncey started out like that it was gonna be a long game.
the really sad thing is that korver would really be helping this team right now. even if he is a big puss.
they need a 2 who can knock down jumpers and a 4 who can rebound & score in the post....oh, and a center who isn't a flake.
great season though. they really overachieved.
Quote from: phattymatty on April 30, 2008, 10:21:28 AM
sammy is the biggest waste of space. he has to be one of the most uncoordinated people in the nba. watching him go against rasheed was like watching a nba'er going against a middle schooler.
willie also needs to go.
that was hard to watch last night. you knew when chauncey started out like that it was gonna be a long game.
I was waiting for him to wake up---it was very odd to see him struggle--and it wasnt because of the awesome d--he just flat out missed everything
Matty, you know my opinion of Sam. Even when gives you the occasional oooh and ahhhh with his athletic ability, I still dont get excited because he will ultimately do something so stupid on the floor, it will overshadow the positive and creates scoring opps for the other team
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That hair is just awful. I wonder if his ladyfriend likes it.
Quote from: MDS on April 30, 2008, 01:03:59 PM
That hair is just awful. I wonder if his ladyfriend likes it.
im sure SD eagle does
Sammy is going through the same identity crisis IGY is going through--no big deal
good thing they played with urgency huh
well it was a fun season.
Quote from: SD_Eagle on April 29, 2008, 10:19:22 PM
was a fun season while it lasted.
re-sign lou williams
sign and trade using Iggy for a PF
Thad goes to the 3
basically turned this one off before halftime. it was all a formality after the 2nd half of game 4. nice run, though.
30-12 after the first quarter! That's terrible.
But it was fun and the best thing that can be said is that the young guys got some playoff run. Now Stefanski has to get a 4 and someone who has an outside shot.
They had an interview with Stefanski before the game and he couldn't stop pimping Thad. I'm pretty sure its to soften the blow for when Iggy's traded.
Oh ma dear god they only got 14k down there tonight. Philly be damned.
Quote from: SD_Eagle on May 01, 2008, 11:18:16 PM
They had an interview with Stefanski before the game and he couldn't stop pimping Thad. I'm pretty sure its to soften the blow for when Iggy's traded.
hes pimped iguodala non stop on wip this week...in fact theres no one on the roster he doesnt gush over
GET SHOOTERS
He's pimpin Iggy so he can move him.
As for shooters Stefanski comes with an enormous reputation for scouting the Euro's and we all know they're ALL shooters.
Quote from: SD_Eagle on May 02, 2008, 08:22:59 AM
He's pimpin Iggy so he can move him.
As for shooters Stefanski comes with an enormous reputation for scouting the Euro's and we all know they're ALL shooters.
I dont believe for a second he moves him. I think he offers him a contract in the mid $60mill and he takes it.
Without Iggy, you dont make the playoffs this year or possibly next if he is moved. The Sixers became one of the best fast break teams in the NBA, and I think Stephanski sees Iggy as a crucial component to that
Id like to see him work on his handle and J in the off-season and start becoming a somewhat decent threat from the outside
Iggy's gone via a sign and trade...the sooner you all accept this the better.
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you might have the wrong guy SD. I think the other Andre might be gone. He served his purpose
Unless Ed is blown away by an offer there's no way he trades Miller
it's stupid to move iggy. he had a bad series because no one on the team can hit a jump shot to save their life. you get a couple guys who can hit some 3s and long jumpers, letting iggy drive to the basket, and he becomes an all-star.
14,130 for a 6th game of a playoff series is a disgrace. not a surprise, though.
i never want to see another post in this forum that suggests the sixers are more popular than the flyers, phillies or eagles in philly. ever.
Quote from: phattymatty on May 02, 2008, 10:22:50 AM
it's stupid to move iggy. he had a bad series because no one on the team can hit a jump shot to save their life. you get a couple guys who can hit some 3s and long jumpers, letting iggy drive to the basket, and he becomes an all-star.
I have no problem with keeping iggy, but any smart GM knows paying a 3 not named Lebron that kind of cash is dumb when they're a dime a dozen.
Quote from: Rome on May 02, 2008, 10:22:50 AM
14,130 for a 6th game of a playoff series is a disgrace. not a surprise, though.
i never want to see another post in this forum that suggests the sixers are more popular than the flyers, phillies or eagles in philly. ever.
if the sixers are the two seed and not two games below during the regular season they sell out every game easily...the eagles came close to not selling out the detroit playoff game in 95 and had scores of empty seats at games in the 90's even during good years...
and fyi they lost by 30...philly fans are the best but more importantly the smartest in the world and they know what games to go to and what ones not to...except maybe flyer fans who are complete and utter sheep...and even they had trouble selling out games in the cap series
you wont remember this cause youre a magic fan but the sixers run in 01 was almost on par with the eagles superbowl in terms of igniting the city and you couldnt find a ticket to any of the playoff games that year
Quote14,130 for a 6th game of a playoff series is a disgrace. not a surprise, though.
i never want to see another post in this forum that suggests the sixers are more popular than the flyers, phillies or eagles in philly. ever.
Ha...I have never seen anyone in this thread suggest that, but dont act like they are not right on par. The series went as expected to a lot of fans, thus tuning them out. Im one of the biggest Sixers fans and for some odd reason I cared more what the Phillies were doing last night. There's a problem there.
Eagles
Phillies
Sixers
Flyers--some will disagree now because they are finally doing well
Quote from: SD_Eagle on May 02, 2008, 10:31:42 AM
Quote from: phattymatty on May 02, 2008, 10:22:50 AM
it's stupid to move iggy. he had a bad series because no one on the team can hit a jump shot to save their life. you get a couple guys who can hit some 3s and long jumpers, letting iggy drive to the basket, and he becomes an all-star.
I have no problem with keeping iggy, but any smart GM knows paying a 3 not named Lebron that kind of cash is dumb when they're a dime a dozen.
60 mil is nothing in the nba these days...especially for a player of iguodalas ilk
$60 mill is ridiculous and Iggy is not worthy of that kind of money. I doubt he'd even break the Pistons starting 5.
Quote from: SD_Eagle on May 02, 2008, 10:31:42 AM
Quote from: phattymatty on May 02, 2008, 10:22:50 AM
it's stupid to move iggy. he had a bad series because no one on the team can hit a jump shot to save their life. you get a couple guys who can hit some 3s and long jumpers, letting iggy drive to the basket, and he becomes an all-star.
I have no problem with keeping iggy, but any smart GM knows paying a 3 not named Lebron that kind of cash is dumb when they're a dime a dozen.
SD, you're not taking into account that there are only maybe 2 other players in the league that have done what Iggy has done numbers wise. You dont just let a guy like that walk unless you're getting the farm.
He is all-around and hard to come by
Quote from: ice grillin you on May 02, 2008, 10:34:12 AM
Quote from: Rome on May 02, 2008, 10:22:50 AM
14,130 for a 6th game of a playoff series is a disgrace. not a surprise, though.
i never want to see another post in this forum that suggests the sixers are more popular than the flyers, phillies or eagles in philly. ever.
if the sixers are the two seed and not two games below during the regular season they sell out every game easily...the eagles came close to not selling out the detroit playoff game in 95 and had scores of empty seats at games in the 90's even during good years...
and fyi they lost by 30...philly fans are the best but more importantly the smartest in the world and they know what games to go to and what ones not to...except maybe flyer fans who are complete and utter sheep...and even they had trouble selling out games in the cap series
you wont remember this cause youre a magic fan but the sixers run in 01 was almost on par with the eagles superbowl in terms of igniting the city and you couldnt find a ticket to any of the playoff games that year
blah, blah, blah. 14,130 is a disgrace. that's what, six THOUSAND below capacity for basketball?
make all the excuses you want but there's no disputing the fact that they were 70% full last night for the deciding game of a playoff series. the sixers are a distant fourth in popularity, period.
You don't pay a 3 a huge salary...you pay that to big men. If Thad wasn't on the roster different story but why pay Iggy a ridiculous deal when the money is better served elsewhere? Iggy would be a good 3rd option type at the 3 but he's far from a go to guy. You give him $60 mill and suddenly he's it.
Quote from: SD_Eagle on May 02, 2008, 10:37:33 AM
$60 mill is ridiculous and Iggy is not worthy of that kind of money. I doubt he'd even break the Pistons starting 5.
i think you need to look around the league at what people are making...60 mil for him is not a lot...mike bibby makes 15 mil a year...so does michael redd...antwan jamison 17 ect ect ect...
Quote from: SD_Eagle on May 02, 2008, 10:37:33 AM
$60 mill is ridiculous and Iggy is not worthy of that kind of money. I doubt he'd even break the Pistons starting 5.
i think you're under estimating nba contracts. you understand the Sixers payed chris webber like 18 mil this year right? and there are whole teams who don't break the pistons starting 5. that's why they're one of the best team in the league.
Quote from: Rome on May 02, 2008, 10:41:18 AM
blah, blah, blah. 14,130 is a disgrace. that's what, six THOUSAND below capacity for basketball?
make all the excuses you want but there's no disputing the fact that they were 70% full last night for the deciding game of a playoff series. the sixers are a distant fourth in popularity, period.
yup...and I don't care if they took the city over in 2000. They had the most exciting player in the NBA who also happened to be the MVP that season...not to mention the role players were hard working lunch pale guys which you know this city loves.
The NBA sucks. The sooner everyone accepts that the happier you'll all be.
Quote from: phattymatty on May 02, 2008, 10:44:53 AM
Quote from: SD_Eagle on May 02, 2008, 10:37:33 AM
$60 mill is ridiculous and Iggy is not worthy of that kind of money. I doubt he'd even break the Pistons starting 5.
i think you're under estimating nba contracts. you understand the Sixers payed chris webber like 18 mil this year right? and there are whole teams who don't break the pistons starting 5. that's why they're one of the best team in the league.
Tell me your offseason plan. Re-signing iggy and giving it another go next season? No way that happens especially considering Miller is most likely a goner once next season is over.
Quote from: rjs246 on May 02, 2008, 10:49:42 AM
The NBA sucks. The sooner everyone accepts that the happier you'll all be.
No, lacrosse sucks. The sooner you realize that the sooner you'll be able to take your varsity letter off your work jacket
Quote from: SD_Eagle on May 02, 2008, 10:47:21 AM
Quote from: Rome on May 02, 2008, 10:41:18 AM
blah, blah, blah. 14,130 is a disgrace. that's what, six THOUSAND below capacity for basketball?
make all the excuses you want but there's no disputing the fact that they were 70% full last night for the deciding game of a playoff series. the sixers are a distant fourth in popularity, period.
yup...and I don't care if they took the city over in 2000. They had the most exciting player in the NBA who also happened to be the MVP that season...not to mention the role players were hard working lunch pale guys which you know this city loves.
it was partly iverson but it was mostly the fact that they won almost 60 games and were the second best team in the entire league...this team was under 500 and playing a team almost every thought they would get crushed by...they saw the last two and half games leading up to last night and knew what was up...and they lost by 30 proving the intelligence of the fans...i give credit to them for knowing whats coming and not going...and if the sixers win the division next year or win 50 games then sellouts will be everywhere...just out of curiousity since i know you consider yourself a big sixer fan did you go?
Quote from: rjs246 on May 02, 2008, 10:49:42 AM
The NBA sucks. The sooner everyone accepts that the happier you'll all be.
i accepted it years ago. that's why i'm a magic fan. i couldn't care less if they win or lose, but when the flyers aren't on, the phillies are out of season and the eagles aren't playing, i have to have something to distract me from the crushing boredom of living in this hell hole of a state - so i watch the magic.
and lol at reese.
Quote from: SD_Eagle on May 02, 2008, 10:50:54 AM
Tell me your offseason plan. Re-signing iggy and giving it another go next season? No way that happens especially considering Miller is most likely a goner once next season is over.
i'll admit i haven't sat down and thought of a plan, i just don't see your rush to get rid of the most exciting player on the team to watch. you've been saying it since the season started. there are a lot of players in the league much worse making much more.
and what would you save the money for? it's not like there's a top big man available. maybe brand i guess. i would rather they didn't have so much invested in sammy and green, because i think they're both trash, but what can you do now.
Quote from: ice grillin you on May 02, 2008, 10:53:43 AM
it was partly iverson but it was mostly the fact that they won almost 60 games and were the second best team in the entire league...this team was under 500 and playing a team almost every thought they would get crushed by...they saw the last two and half games leading up to last night and knew what was up...and they lost by 30 proving the intelligence of the fans...i give credit to them for knowing whats coming and not going...and if the sixers win the division next year or win 50 games then sellouts will be everywhere...just out of curiousity since i know you consider yourself a big sixer fan did you go?
you just applauded a fan base for being front-running bandwagoners who are more concerned with a winning team than they are following a team win or lose.
well done.
its unbelievable how much people who dont like the nba feel as tho they have to scream it to the whole world
Quote from: Rome on May 02, 2008, 10:56:48 AM
that's why i'm a magic fan.
ha...that never gets old
Quote from: SD_Eagle on April 29, 2008, 10:19:22 PM
was a fun season while it lasted.
re-sign lou williams
sign and trade using Iggy for a PF
Thad goes to the 3
also, get some guys who can shoot the damn ball.
where did you sit at the game last night, dook?
Quote from: Rome on May 02, 2008, 11:03:16 AM
where did you sit at the game last night, dook?
sorry i live in md and can only make it up to philly for two games a week...so im going to phils and flyers this weekend...enjoy the magic series tho
Quote from: hunt on May 02, 2008, 11:01:49 AM
also, get some guys who can shoot the damn ball.
isn't it sad that this guy could have made a huge difference in the series?
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if you were a real fan nothing would stand in your way of supporting your favorite team. and they are your favoritest, right?
Quote from: ice grillin you on May 02, 2008, 10:53:43 AM
just out of curiousity since i know you consider yourself a big sixer fan did you go?
Did I go lastnight? No. I went to 4 regular season games this season.
As far as the 2000 run I always thought the build up to that season and the 17-0 start had a big influence on why the city embraced that team. Bottom line is the Sixers can't sell out a playoff team while the Flyers can sell the building out even when they're the worst team in the league. Call Flyers fans blind homers or whatever you want but they're the more popular team in Philly.
Quote from: phattymatty on May 02, 2008, 11:07:50 AM
Quote from: hunt on May 02, 2008, 11:01:49 AM
also, get some guys who can shoot the damn ball.
isn't it sad that this guy could have made a huge difference in the series?
he would've helped with his outside shooting but would've killed them in so many other ways. imagine kk guarding prince or rip. :paranoid
Where AI would of severely helped is breaking down the first defender and dishing it out. The forever problem is who the hell is going to shoot it?
Granted they were playing the Pistons, but you still have to have the ability to beat the first defender and either dish it in the post on the drive or pass it out. Miller can not do that--and that hurts everyone else's ability
Miller has 3 facets to his game--runs the fast break, passes it from the perimeter, and throws the oop. (For the record, he had the most shots of any Sixer in the playoffs--obviously not good for a PG)
Look at Chris Paul, Deron Williams and Tony Parker--all can kill the defender off the dribble and find their guy. Its huge--especially in the playoffs where it is predominantly a half-court press.
the top three lead guards in the nba can take people off the dribble??...no wai!
andre took people off the dribble all year with no problem...he even was in the lane a good amount this series...he just couldnt shoot...and thats because they were playing a dominant team who knows how to help defend and defend in general
andres problem is he cant finish at the basket...he can get by people but to score he has to pull up in the lane...which isnt the worst thing on this team because they have plenty of finishers...but bottom line is they need to start their search for their future point...still burns me that they took carney over rondo in 2006
Quotethe top three lead guards in the nba can take people off the dribble??...no wai!
and who are in the playoffs and advancing? The top point guards-- who do just that. You need that skill. Thanks for making my point
For the record, Miller had a fantastic year I wont deny that for a second, but he shouldn't be shooting. Thats not his job. I dont want him to keep pulling up from the key.
by definition if youre the top point guard in the nba you can take people off the dribble
the best quote i've seen so far today...
QuotePhiladelphia was "led" by Andre Iguodala, who had 16 points. Andre Miller and Louis Williams "added" 11 each, and the rest of the team pretty much "sucked."
to look at tv ratings for this inane whose more popular battle between the flyers and sixers:
flyers/canes game 4 got 250,000 people
sixers have been averaging 102,000 on csn for the playoffs for games 1-5
but factored into that are this: game 4 was close and exciting. the sixers have played 3 close games and all three of those were also available on espn/tnt (no idea what the philly numbers for those are). the 2 only on csn were blowouts (game 2 and 5).
so basically its difficult to get a sense on that matter.
but the bottom line is basketball is a much, much more popular sport than hockey in this town. the flyers have a more devoted, loyal fan base. so basically more people have the potential to care about the sixers if they do well, while the flyers fan base is essentially limited to most of the white people.
who are the canes
Quote from: MDS on May 02, 2008, 01:23:23 PM
while the flyers fan base is essentially limited to most of the white people.
that's only because black people can't skate because of their thinner ankles.
that and they're afraid of drowning if the ice melts
Quote from: SD_Eagle on May 02, 2008, 01:41:34 PM
that and they're afraid of drowning if the ice melts
beat me to it racist
Quote from: SD_Eagle on May 02, 2008, 01:41:34 PM
that and they're afraid of drowning if the ice melts
lolol
Quote from: MDS on May 02, 2008, 01:23:23 PM
while the flyers fan base is essentially limited to most of the white people.
and Kate Smith likes it that way
she was not a fan of the schvatas?
Quote from: MDS on May 02, 2008, 01:54:44 PM
she was not a fan of the schvatas?
http://www.concretefield.com/forum/index.php?topic=19883.msg603999#msg603999
that was our senior prom theme song.
good times.
Quote from: Rome on May 02, 2008, 02:18:17 PM
that was our senior prom theme song.
good times.
i knew you were old
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