Jim Schwartz, Defensive Coordinator

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Eagles_Legendz

I think if you go back and watch, the pass rush wasn't terrible in the first half.  They were getting to Brady on a handful of plays, just not bringing him down.  The secondary wasn't holding up their end of the bargain. 

Then in the second half it just completely disappeared until the last two drives.

SD

On the hail mary at the end Robinson tips it instead of letting it hit the ground, it was in the air for a split second, Amendola dives for the ball but it bounces. That would have been the ultimate nightmare.

Gronk running free at all is a disgrace. I watched a tape breakdown on how to cover Gronk, teams that were most effective put a CB on him and took him off the line so he couldn't run his route and get a head of steam. I understand wanting to cover the deep route but you can't let him open underneath.

Whatever though, they won. I wouldn't change a thing.

SD

Quote from: Eagles_Legendz on February 12, 2018, 10:26:20 AM
I think if you go back and watch, the pass rush wasn't terrible in the first half.  They were getting to Brady on a handful of plays, just not bringing him down.  The secondary wasn't holding up their end of the bargain. 

Then in the second half it just completely disappeared until the last two drives.

Exactly. Brady's still the goat. He knew the defensive formation and knew when to get the ball out and calculated the pass rush with his pass. He took some shots. He did a good job brushing off tackles and avoiding the pass rush. The Pats O line did do a good job messing up the Eagles D line lanes. Cox was one on one a lot of the game and they managed to not block him straight up but to hit him on an angle so he didn't have a direct route to Brady.

Sgt PSN

The game plan was obviously to not get beat deep, and for the most part they succeeded. It was a true bend but don't break defense. Pats moved the ball up and down the field, but the defense did what it needed to once the field shortened.

On the Pats 1st 4 possessions:
26 yd FG
Missed 26 yd FG
TO on downs at the 35.
45 yd FG.

The most egregious thing I saw from the defense was the absolutely piss poor tackling on the White touchdown.

And really, I think the only thing that kept the game close was the freak int by NE near the end of the 1st half. It was s first down play, and with the way the offense was moving I have no doubt they still score points on that drive and probably eat a bunch of clock in the process if Jeffrey doesn't bat the ball in the air. 

But ya know what? Who gives a flying farg?  I sure as hell don't. I've spent too many years looking at the what ifs, almosts, and woulda, shoulda, couldas, and bitching about those 1 or 2 plays that needed to be made and never were. 

The way this game unfolded, with offenses doing whatever they wanted, the game was going to be decided by the defense that made just a couple of big plays in critical moments.  Eagles defense made them, Pats didn't. Farg you very much.

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Quote from: Sgt PSN on February 12, 2018, 11:55:42 AM
The game plan was obviously to not get beat deep, and for the most part they succeeded.

nah...they played very little two deep.....malcolm jenkins was at or near the line most of the game...corey graham played a ton...i dont know the counts but it had to be his most snaps of the year for him....and he was used to mostly double gronk....that was their main goal....to stop gronk

that plus trying to knock their wr's off their routes...they were terrible at that (besides i think patrick robinson on hogan on the hail mary which was hilarious....he smashed him at least 20 yards down the field...any other circumstance but a hail mary and he gets called for PI)...any way the patriots are not a deep threat team...they are all slot receivers...most of what they do is predicated on bradys ridiculous accuracy and timing routes...and especially once cooks went down they were devoid of any deep threats

eagles scheme was correct they just didnt cover well.....but they didnt cover well most of the year....they made up for it with takeaways a good pass rush and great third down defense

eagles defense had the most amazing line youll ever see in any nfl game much less a super bowl

1 turnover
0 sacks
over 5 ypc
50% on third downs
1 penalty for
an absurd 18 ypr
613 total yards allowed

and they won
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Quote from: ice grillin you on February 12, 2018, 01:23:17 PM
any way the patriots are not a deep threat team...they are all slot receivers.

Cooks is a legitimate deep threat and Brady's hit him deep often. He wasn't feeling well.

Hogan is a deep threat to a lesser extent but Brady's hit him deep throughout the season.

ice grillin you

cooks is one guy not a team and even still hes not a stretch the field guy as much as a yac guy.....hogan is zero deep threat...they are a bunch of slot guys scatting around the field and gronk....cooks just happens to be faster than everyone else

patriots run very little down the field in terms of verticality....its just not their scheme....when they do its usually gronk running down a seam to get everyone else open underneath

put it this way the perfect way to lose to them is to play two deep and try not to get beat over the top
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SD

Not many teams - if any - live and die by the deep pass. Brady's 8th in the league in passes 40+ yards, Cooks was 2nd in the league in catches over 40 yards. He's definitely not a yac guy. You're going to hate to hear this, but I had him on two fantasy teams, I watched him close this season.

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Quote from: AO1 on February 12, 2018, 01:59:53 PM
Brady's 8th in the league in passes 40+ yards, Cooks was 2nd in the league in catches over 40 yards. He's definitely not a yac guy. You're going to hate to hear this, but I had him on two fantasy teams, I watched him close this season.

again even if you think cooks is some sort of monster deep threat we are talking about the patriots as a team...and trying to stop them from beating you deep...of all the teams in the nfl who dont totally suck at the qb position they are at or near the bottom of who you should game plan against to stop the deep ball

40+ yard receptions dont mean you run tons of vertical routes....it includes 15 yard catches that run for another 25

brady also led the league in pass attempts so he probably also leads the league in most 5 yard completions

its why he was first in the nfl in passing yards but tenth in yards per completion...they dont have an offense based on a lot of vertical routes...mostly because they dont have a lot of guys that cant get or scare you vertical....when they had randy moss they were an exception...but that was really it

this is the problem with fantasy and why it should be blown up....people only care about their own player stats and only in a limited scope....basically ignoring things like strategy in the nfl or system or scheme or shtein even team
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igy gettin it done like warrick

im the board pharmacist....always one step above yous

SD

Cooks isn't a yac guy. He's a deep route runner who relies on speed. He's an added dimension the Pats needed which is why they traded a 1st for him. Teams don't live and die by the deep pass, but to say the Pats don't have a deep threat is off.

MDS

thats actually why i traded him in fantasy. couldnt stand the boom or bust nature of his game since his production was all predicated on hitting one deep.

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