Rest Of Baseball - 2015

Started by PhillyPhreak54, January 04, 2015, 01:56:14 PM

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Geowhizzer

Never had time to give my picks last night:

Johnson's a no-brainer.  Probably the last 300 game winner.

Clemens/Bonds/Sosa - I'd put them in, but they're probably the sacrificial lambs of the steroid era for now.

Smoltz - Success as both starter and reliever, probably pumps him up a little (overrated in my opinion, but still there).

Martinez/Schilling - career numbers total low.  Martinez more dominant regular season, both dominant in the postseason.  I'd say yes to both.

Biggio - 3,000 hits gets him in.


Bagwell - Borderline.  Not sure he did anything to achieve greatness.  Very, very good, but never great.

Mussina - See Bagwell.

Walker - See Bagwell.  And even those numbers are Colorado-inflated.

Mattingly - Not even considered if not a Yankee.  Peak was great, but far too short.

Raines is the one that gets me.  I want him in, and pre-steroid era he would have had a great shot.  Those inflated numbers of the 1990s-2000s killed his chances.

ice grillin you

i think if anything the steriod era helps raines numbers and makes him look better
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PhillyPhreak54

Johnson
Smoltz
Pedro
Biggie

People actually didn't vote for Randy or Pedro

baseball HOF voters are the worst.

ice grillin you

biggio getting in is a disgrace
i can take a phrase thats rarely heard...flip it....now its a daily word

igy gettin it done like warrick

im the board pharmacist....always one step above yous

Rome

15 out of 549 voters didn't vote for Randy Johnson, who is only the single-greatest left handed pitcher in the history of the sport.

Those 15 clowns should immediately have their voting rights eliminated.

PhillyPhreak54

Yep.

Same for the dopes who didn't vote for Pedro

PhillyPhreak54

Jeff Kent only getting 14% is stupid. He's better than Biggio

But because the funholey writers didn't like him bc he was an icehole to them

Dillen

Quote from: Geowhizzer on January 06, 2015, 12:08:47 PM
Bagwell - Borderline.  Not sure he did anything to achieve greatness.  Very, very good, but never great.

Quote from: ice grillin you on January 06, 2015, 02:34:41 PM
biggio getting in is a disgrace

Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on January 06, 2015, 06:27:37 PM
Jeff Kent only getting 14% is stupid. He's better than Biggio


Yeah I'm an Astros fan so pin my ideas on that, but you're all out of your farging mind

PhillyPhreak54

Biggio was very good.

My point is if you're putting Biggio in then Kent has to have more than 14%.

If Biggio doesn't hang on for another year or two to get 3k hits does he get it? Nope.

ice grillin you

kents horrible...roid monkey who couldnt field a lick

bagwell roid monkey and is not a HOF'er anyway

remember its the hall of fame not the hall of really good or great
i can take a phrase thats rarely heard...flip it....now its a daily word

igy gettin it done like warrick

im the board pharmacist....always one step above yous

PhillyPhreak54

I'm on the fence with Kent but he was better than Biggio.

So my point is if Biggio gets in then why does Kent get only 14%?

There weren't any whispers about him being a roid monkey...at least not what I remember

But he was really good

ice grillin you

kent = roid monkey....everyone knows it....and whether it was roid rage or he was just an icehole or both no one liked him...not saying I agree with that part of it but its a factor

and I agree that neither biggio or kent deserve it

i can take a phrase thats rarely heard...flip it....now its a daily word

igy gettin it done like warrick

im the board pharmacist....always one step above yous

PhillyPhreak54

I think he was just an icehole. But the writers get butthurt when they get ignored and I hate that.

I wanna know the names of the dopes who left unit and Pedro off

QB Eagles

Pedro you can make a case against, although it wouldn't be a very good case. There's no conceivable reason other than being an old senile curmudgeon or attention whore for not voting for Johnson.

SD

Biggio I could go either way with but 3000 hits plus he played most of his career at 2b and catcher.  Also had close to 300 hrs and over 400 stolen bases.