YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS!
2008 - skins - return - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hdsrN8j2xWo
2008 - chicago - catch (1:25) - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iRsAuATcF3Y
2008 - arizona - catch (2:11) - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iRsAuATcF3Y
2009 - carolina - return - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Ns4cqiOXxM
2009 - giants - return - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZH0bh75JMxY&feature=related
2009 - new orleans - catch - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vAawoL6hiJ8
2009 - kc - catch - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jU7znd775WI&feature=related
2009 - skins - catch and run - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TH3-ciE2IvU&feature=related
2009 - skins - catch - http://taterskins.dcweb.com/video/DeSean-Jackson-Touchdown-Vs-Red
2009 - giants - catch - http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-videos/09000d5d814f5df6
2009 - chicago - catch - http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-videos/09000d5d8146c92b
2009 - arizona - catch - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6785WGVtTT4&feature=related
2009 - san fran - catch (2:30) - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9JzklmyOYww
2009 - denver - catch (:50) - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GzCF34uXhd0&feature=fvw
2010 - atlanta - catch - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lQy8qGWgcJs
2010 - atlanta - rush - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FxqGIlfKbok
2010 - skins - catch - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LqkVmAi_IbA
2010 - detroit - catch - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rKy4zLoUPcI&feature=related
2010- jacksonville - catch (:20) - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G1cnhmp1oFk
2010 - dallas - catch - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qPXhoZPV2bw
2010 - colts - catch - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gN1jvgQJBlQ
2010 - giants - return - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n-NC2w0cFEs
pro bowl highlites - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UpJ5HLR5fjc
shocked the hell out of me, I thought they'd take a safety. Love the pick but sadly I think they'll try and pass him off as the offensive playmaker fans have wanted.
Honestly. I hate to be a downer here, but he won't help us right away. This team is a joke.
The Cowboys are still WAY better than us. We could've kept our 2nd round pick and still got Desean and stayed at 19 and got Kenny Phillips even or Merling, Otah.
I didn't want Otah if it meant no WR, but in hindsight it makes sense.
This team is a joke.
http://www.nfl.com/draft/profiles/desean-jackson?id=1581
he's the next steve smith.
the next steve smith + the next chad johnson = super bowl
Quote from: King Cole on April 26, 2008, 07:59:48 PM
Honestly. I hate to be a downer here, but he won't help us right away. This team is a joke.
The Cowboys are still WAY better than us. We could've kept our 2nd round pick and still got Desean and stayed at 19 and got Kenny Phillips even or Merling, Otah.
I didn't want Otah if it meant no WR, but in hindsight it makes sense.
This team is a joke.
You're a joke. Are you serious? Did you read what you wrote?
Quote from: King Cole on April 26, 2008, 07:59:48 PM
Honestly. I hate to be a downer here, but he won't help us right away. This team is a joke.
The Cowboys are still WAY better than us. We could've kept our 2nd round pick and still got Desean and stayed at 19 and got Kenny Phillips even or Merling, Otah.
I didn't want Otah if it meant no WR, but in hindsight it makes sense.
This team is a joke.
:-D :-D
The return game got a lot better today at the very least.
At #49, this is a farging great pick. He is exactly what the Eagles need. Could they use a Roy Williams or Chad Johnson? Sure. But Jackson can do a lot of things that no one on the Eagles can do.
Very nice.
Quote from: King Cole on April 26, 2008, 07:59:48 PM
Honestly. I hate to be a downer here, but he won't help us right away. This team is a joke.
The Cowboys are still WAY better than us. We could've kept our 2nd round pick and still got Desean and stayed at 19 and got Kenny Phillips even or Merling, Otah.
I didn't want Otah if it meant no WR, but in hindsight it makes sense.
This team is a joke.
Are you serious? If befored the draft I said our first two picks would be DeSean Jackson and Trevor Laws everyone would be fine with that. We not only did that but we added a 1 in '09 and Booker. Merling is not a fit here, we already have a guy like him in Abiamiri. Phillips would've been a wasted pick at 19. Excellent draft so far.
Quote from: King Cole on April 26, 2008, 07:59:48 PM
Honestly. I hate to be a downer here, but he won't help us right away. This team is a joke.
The Cowboys are still WAY better than us. We could've kept our 2nd round pick and still got Desean and stayed at 19 and got Kenny Phillips even or Merling, Otah.
I didn't want Otah if it meant no WR, but in hindsight it makes sense.
This team is a joke.
don't be such a killjoy. we still have three 4th's and four 6th's to look forward to. who needs 1 really good player when you can have 7 mediocre players?
Desean Jackson will have an immediate impact.. atleast in the return game... that's more that can be said for most rookie wideouts.
Quote from: DonovanTheMessiah on April 26, 2008, 08:14:29 PM
Quote from: King Cole on April 26, 2008, 07:59:48 PM
Honestly. I hate to be a downer here, but he won't help us right away. This team is a joke.
The Cowboys are still WAY better than us. We could've kept our 2nd round pick and still got Desean and stayed at 19 and got Kenny Phillips even or Merling, Otah.
I didn't want Otah if it meant no WR, but in hindsight it makes sense.
This team is a joke.
Are you serious? If befored the draft I said our first two picks would be DeSean Jackson and Trevor Laws everyone would be fine with that. We not only did that but we added a 1 in '09 and Booker. Merling is not a fit here, we already have a guy like him in Abiamiri. Phillips would've been a wasted pick at 19. Excellent draft so far.
I feel like we could've done a lot better. My gripe is what did we do to catch the Cowboys and the Giants?
This was the only team that didn't make the playoffs last year. The taterskins, Giants, Cowboys all took players who will play immediately. Laws is a rotation guy, and Jackson isn't starting at WR any time soon.
So in the grand scheme of things, where are we right now as a team?
You are forgetting a healthy McNabb, one of the only 3 CB deep secondary, and an upcoming pass-rushing specialist. Add in a 3rd DT and a speedy return threat....the birds are MUCH better.
i wish he was a white offensive tackle from byu
Quote from: mikey418 on April 26, 2008, 08:26:07 PM
You are forgetting a healthy McNabb, one of the only 3 CB deep secondary, and an upcoming pass-rushing specialist. Add in a 3rd DT and a speedy return threat....the birds are MUCH better.
I agree with better. Not much better. We are still lacking some major weapons on offense. Jackson won't step in right away.
He'll step in right away as a returner....look at what Hester did for the Bears. I truly think the defense will be better with Samual & Clemons. I think the offense is better with Kris Wilson, a healthy LJ, and Booker - not to mention a healthy McNabb and hopefully a more productive OL.
The Eagles lost 5 games by 4 points or less. Better field position or a few more turnovers makes the Eagles a playoff team last year...and that's with all of McNabb's struggle.
Don't be so gloomy guss. Name another team with 3 starting CBs....2 of which are Pro-Browlers.
I'm not usually that kinda guy. I was very optimistic last year and my heart was ripped out.
My only hope and this is a major major stretch. But after june 1st, Chad's cap hit is pretty much nil. Maybe we wait til after the draft and go after Chad with one of our two 1st rounders next year, and Lito. It doesn't look like we'll trade him until after the draft now.
Major stretch, but hoping. I don't think our offense is good enough right now to make the playoffs. We'll be in the mix, but not quite there IMO. Still a lot of offseason left, so we'll see.
love the pick
Donovan gets a play maker. That is important. And the STs gets one too.
Stop being a frenchman, King.
Ok, I won't rain on anyone's parade anymore. Just going to enjoy the rest of the Flyers game. I wasn't a big fan of Jackson as a WR. I was as a returner. He is the 2nd best I've ever seen.I was hoping we could do more at WR, but such is moot now.
I like the pick
Quote from: mikey418 on April 26, 2008, 08:26:07 PM
You are forgetting a healthy McNabb, one of the only 3 CB deep secondary, and an upcoming pass-rushing specialist. Add in a 3rd DT and a speedy return threat....the birds are MUCH better.
Post of the draft. Well said.
Not to mention we have Carolina's future first to work with in a possible trade for a #1 receiver.
i am very excited about tomorrow. boat load of very good safeties still on the board. also some good linebackers.
4.35 50
16.7 yards per punt return (2nd in Pac-10 history)
Quote"He's an explosive player. Very fast. Very quick. He's one of those guys, if you talk to people around the league that evaluate him, they put him in that exciting, explosive category."
DeSean:
Quote"It's a blessing, a dream come true. The Philadelphia Eagles were high on my list. I felt like I had a connection with the program, Andy Reid and the rest of the coaches. It's a dream come true and I am ready to get in there as soon as possible and make great things happen for the team."
"I am very confident. I can just sit back there and catch the football no matter where it is kicked. I can field punts and I am able to see the whole field. I can see my blockers and make great moves from there. Once I see a seam, I am going to hit it and take it the distance."
"I definitely feel like [dropping out of the first round] will motivate me. I just know I have to come to the Eagles ready to play, I will expect a lot of myself. I am going to come in right away and try to compete and just get better as soon as possible."
Quote from: King Cole on April 26, 2008, 07:59:48 PM
Honestly. I hate to be a downer here, but he won't help us right away. This team is a joke.
The Cowboys are still WAY better than us. We could've kept our 2nd round pick and still got Desean and stayed at 19 and got Kenny Phillips even or Merling, Otah.
I didn't want Otah if it meant no WR, but in hindsight it makes sense.
This team is a joke.
The Eagles broke their mold and went out and got one of, if not the most athletically gifted players in this draft. He'll get to display that athleticism and lightning speed 6-10 times a game at the very least from day 1.
Even if he doesn't contribute right away at WR... it doesn't mean he can't have an impact. What does Hester contribute from WR or CB for that matter? Drastically improving starting field position (which he should be able to do) creates an impact.
I would have been cool with him at 19 to be honest. To get him at 49... I love it.
Quote from: BigEd76 on April 26, 2008, 10:16:19 PM
DeSean:
Quote"It's a blessing, a dream come true. The Philadelphia Eagles were high on my list. I felt like I had a connection with the program, Andy Reid and the rest of the coaches. It's a dream come true and I am ready to get in there as soon as possible and make great things happen for the team."
"I am very confident. I can just sit back there and catch the football no matter where it is kicked. I can field punts and I am able to see the whole field. I can see my blockers and make great moves from there. Once I see a seam, I am going to hit it and take it the distance."
"I definitely feel like [dropping out of the first round] will motivate me. I just know I have to come to the Eagles ready to play, I will expect a lot of myself. I am going to come in right away and try to compete and just get better as soon as possible."
Another guy who is already on the same page with the coaching staff!
Listening to DeSean's conference call on PE.com.....says he met Rice since they're both signed with the DeBartolo group
Andy says he plans to use him as a WR too and wouldn't have drafted him that high if he was just a returner. He also says Jackson can handle kickoffs too
Quote from: EagleFeva on April 26, 2008, 10:17:48 PM
Quote from: King Cole on April 26, 2008, 07:59:48 PM
Honestly. I hate to be a downer here, but he won't help us right away. This team is a joke.
The Cowboys are still WAY better than us. We could've kept our 2nd round pick and still got Desean and stayed at 19 and got Kenny Phillips even or Merling, Otah.
I didn't want Otah if it meant no WR, but in hindsight it makes sense.
This team is a joke.
The Eagles broke their mold and went out and got one of, if not the most athletically gifted players in this draft. He'll get to display that athleticism and lightning speed 6-10 times a game at the very least from day 1.
Even if he doesn't contribute right away at WR... it doesn't mean he can't have an impact. What does Hester contribute from WR or CB for that matter? Drastically improving starting field position (which he should be able to do) creates an impact.
I would have been cool with him at 19 to be honest. To get him at 49... I love it.
Exactly, to get him at 19 would have been great. To get him at 49 is outstanding.
This is a game-breaking guy. A guy who will potentially alter games like Devin Hester.
And the STs blocking seemingly has improved with the additions of guys like Wilson and Boiman.
ok so far i like the offseason considering the samuel pick up while keeping LITO and then adding jackson.
they need to draft a safety now. and more depth at LB.
but it would be amazing if they could use one of the 1st round picks for a WR this year.
as it is i am just glad washington nor dallas picked up williams, boldin, or chad johnson. washington did get 2 of the better projected WRs but still...i had a feeling the eagles would come out with a Guard while washington and dallas would come away with playmakers at WR via trades.
when is the eagles next pick?
#80 at this point.
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As far as I'm concerned, the only real knock on DeSean is his size. There is no reason to hate on his WR skills. They aren't elite, but they are still very good. People act as if he's only been successful as a returner. His receiving stats over Sophomore and Junior years:
25 games, 125 catches, 1822 yards, 14.6 ypc, 15 TD.
Jackson had better numbers than Sweed over the past 2 years (taking into account just averages, considering Sweed missed half of last year) and was just as good as Kelly. Obviously he won't be as much as a red zone threat as either but considering the second most dangerous guy on the team is Kevin Curtis I think it's safe to say there's nothing wrong with DeSean.
Now they can actually use the Pinkston play and have it gain more than a yard or two. You know the one; throw it real quick only to see Todd get smoked after a yard. Jackson will make plays.
Reid can be creative enough to get him open. His speed with Curtis' speed can really make this offense click down the field.
I just love the fact that they'll be able to get the ball in Jackson's hands in space. Through the returns, reverses, trick plays, etc... he'll wreak havoc in the open field.
No doubt.
Westbrook, Jackson, Curtis...all legit speed guys who can get things going.
Jackson >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Bloom
The best part about him is he doesn't ski
He's black. That was a given.
Quote from: MURP on April 26, 2008, 10:44:04 PM
Josh Parry>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Jackson >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Bloom
How can anyone who watched our return game last year say this was a bad pick at #49?!? C'mon! I love the fact that Jackson is an Eagle. And we have an extra 1st next year to boot!
No more hollering to bring in Bwest to return punts. This kid is an instant threat for our return game, and I for one can't wait to see him in action. He'll be a threat to go all the way everytime he gets a touch. This team hasn't had a real return man since Brian Mitchell. It adds a whole other dimension to the game.
Curtis, Brown, Jackson, and Lewis in the slot on third and long doesn't look to be to bad to me. It ain't Williams or Johnson, but we will be a better offense with Jackson just because he's so damn fast. Stick him out wide and defenses are going to have to watch him going deep. I'm not saying he will be our saviour, but his upside on this offense is great. He could open the field up big time.
I havent' forggotten watching Lewis try to field a punt last year. At 49?!?!? Great pick. He was the one reciever I wanted from the get go. He was the only one I thought would have been there at 19. A 4.3 forty??? He's the fastest guy on the team and one of the fastest in the NFL.
Quote from: King Cole on April 26, 2008, 07:59:48 PM
Honestly. I hate to be a downer here, but he won't help us right away. This team is a joke.
The Cowboys are still WAY better than us. We could've kept our 2nd round pick and still got Desean and stayed at 19 and got Kenny Phillips even or Merling, Otah.
I didn't want Otah if it meant no WR, but in hindsight it makes sense.
This team is a joke.
Ha. What a farging douche.
Quote from: King Cole on April 26, 2008, 07:59:48 PM
Honestly. I hate to be a downer here, but he won't help us right away. This team is a joke.
The Cowboys are still WAY better than us. We could've kept our 2nd round pick and still got Desean and stayed at 19 and got Kenny Phillips even or Merling, Otah.
I didn't want Otah if it meant no WR, but in hindsight it makes sense.
This team is a joke.
How are the Cowboys that much better than us?? Did you watch the last game last year?!?!? Dallas hasn't won a playoff game since you were shteintin' yellow. Besides, Dallas isn't really the team we need to be better than anyway. Are you forgetting who won the Superbowl?!? The Eagles are already as good as farging Dallas. Dallas has a team that looks good on paper but hasn't proven anything.
They are the joke, as are you, not the Eagles.
Have you forgotten' what our return game was last year?!?! Jackson will step right in and make an immediate impact. A wideout with great speed is what this offense has been crying out for the last 6-8 years. McNabb can't throw it far enough to get out of this guys range, and thats saying something.
You have absolutly no friggen' idea what your talking about and need to shut the farg up.
love the pick, great value. Cole is more of a joke than i even thought he was
Quote from: BigEd76 on April 26, 2008, 09:14:06 PM
Quote from: Dillen on September 18, 2007, 07:06:43 PMIf they somehow sucked so bad to get the #1 pick, DeSean Jackson with no hesitation.
Quote from: BigEd76 on October 21, 2007, 11:30:51 PM
Punt return vs Oregon (http://youtube.com/watch?v=y-cZsfr_Jd4)
Punt return vs Tennessee (http://youtube.com/watch?v=DPXSzia2Zfg)
Punt return vs Arizona (http://youtube.com/watch?v=U7_5SFxyniY)
Punt return vs Arizona State (http://youtube.com/watch?v=xSHO4fqVyyg) (even though the announcer calls him Johnson)
:yay
I swear ta' gawd, flames fly from this guys shoe soles he so friggen' fast. He has Deion Sanders return ability. And it looks like the Eagles are trying to get him some blocking with all these late linebacker picks. He's going to give special teams coaches nightmares.
It's a big plus for our offense, good field position, and a deep threat.
let's not forget that STs have been getting better prior to the draft as well...Klecko is going to knock people out
Quote from: shorebird on April 27, 2008, 09:42:31 AM
Quote from: King Cole on April 26, 2008, 07:59:48 PM
Honestly. I hate to be a downer here, but he won't help us right away. This team is a joke.
The Cowboys are still WAY better than us. We could've kept our 2nd round pick and still got Desean and stayed at 19 and got Kenny Phillips even or Merling, Otah.
I didn't want Otah if it meant no WR, but in hindsight it makes sense.
This team is a joke.
How are the Cowboys that much better than us?? Did you watch the last game last year?!?!? Dallas hasn't won a playoff game since you were shteintin' yellow. Besides, Dallas isn't really the team we need to be better than anyway. Are you forgetting who won the Superbowl?!? The Eagles are already as good as farging Dallas. Dallas has a team that looks good on paper but hasn't proven anything. They are the joke, as are you, not the Eagles.
Have you forgotten' what our return game was last year?!?! Jackson will step right in and make an immediate impact. A wideout with great speed is what this offense has been crying out for the last 6-8 years. McNabb can't throw it far enough to get out of this guys range, and thats saying something.
You have absolutly no friggen' idea what your talking about and need to shut the farg up.
I've calmed down some from yesterday, but the Cowboys are not equal to the Eagles. They made the playoffs last year, and we didn't. They are vastly superior. They won 13 games, we won 8. They improved more in this offseason than we did IMO.
Hope I'm wrong.
Quote from: King Cole on April 27, 2008, 05:20:06 PM
I've calmed down some from yesterday, but the Cowboys are not equal to the Eagles. They made the playoffs last year, and we didn't. They are vastly superior. They won 13 games, we won 8. They improved more in this offseason than we did IMO.
Hope I'm wrong.
Wrong you are. By the way, the only thing you do that is dumber then the moronic contect of your posts is constantly use "we" when refering to the Eagles. Dingus.
Quote from: King Cole on April 27, 2008, 05:20:06 PM
Quote from: shorebird on April 27, 2008, 09:42:31 AM
Quote from: King Cole on April 26, 2008, 07:59:48 PM
Honestly. I hate to be a downer here, but he won't help us right away. This team is a joke.
The Cowboys are still WAY better than us. We could've kept our 2nd round pick and still got Desean and stayed at 19 and got Kenny Phillips even or Merling, Otah.
I didn't want Otah if it meant no WR, but in hindsight it makes sense.
This team is a joke.
How are the Cowboys that much better than us?? Did you watch the last game last year?!?!? Dallas hasn't won a playoff game since you were shteintin' yellow. Besides, Dallas isn't really the team we need to be better than anyway. Are you forgetting who won the Superbowl?!? The Eagles are already as good as farging Dallas. Dallas has a team that looks good on paper but hasn't proven anything. They are the joke, as are you, not the Eagles.
Have you forgotten' what our return game was last year?!?! Jackson will step right in and make an immediate impact. A wideout with great speed is what this offense has been crying out for the last 6-8 years. McNabb can't throw it far enough to get out of this guys range, and thats saying something.
You have absolutly no friggen' idea what your talking about and need to shut the farg up.
I've calmed down some from yesterday, but the Cowboys are not equal to the Eagles. They are vastly superior.
Hope I'm wrong.
Vastly superior my ass. This ain't the 80's and Troy Aikman has retired. They blew up last year. They look good on paper but haven't done jack on the field. When you get bitchslapped the first round of the playoffs after losing to a division opponent the week before in the last game of the reg. season, those 13 wins aren't worth a pince of owl shtein.
Farg Dallas, farg them like a gutter slut crack whore.
has anyone ever passed the look test more than desean....dook is PIMP...this could be the best draft pick of the andy reid era
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Quote from: PPinDC on April 27, 2008, 05:25:26 PM
Quote from: King Cole on April 27, 2008, 05:20:06 PM
I've calmed down some from yesterday, but the Cowboys are not equal to the Eagles. They made the playoffs last year, and we didn't. They are vastly superior. They won 13 games, we won 8. They improved more in this offseason than we did IMO.
Hope I'm wrong.
Wrong you are. By the way, the only thing you do that is dumber then the moronic contect of your posts is constantly use "we" when refering to the Eagles. Dingus.
I think caring about someone's usage of pronouns is more moronic.
Scroll through this and try not to get wood:
http://www.philadelphiaeagles.com/photos/index.asp?section_id=1383
Quote from: ice grillin you on April 27, 2008, 05:31:08 PM
has anyone ever passed the look test more than desean....dook is PIMP...this could be the best draft pick of the andy reid era
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Sheeeit maaaan, when your that friggen' fast you gots ta' look good. He looks like he's running faster than mussa when he's standing still. All the ugly must have been blown off.
Quote from: ice grillin you on April 27, 2008, 05:31:08 PM
has anyone ever passed the look test more than desean....dook is PIMP...this could be the best draft pick of the andy reid era
(http://d.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/ap/20080427/capt.19a97f3ac2b34df09a241d04c5d14510.nfl_draft_jackson_football_casp103.jpg)
that's funny....I thought exactly the opposite...what kind of douchebag puts his sunglasses on inside the house with his family to celebrate?
idiot
That pic reminds me of Rod Tidwell in "Jerry Maguire". Even the guy holding up both fists looks like the "militant" brother character.
Quote from: ice grillin you on April 27, 2008, 05:31:08 PM
has anyone ever passed the look test more than desean....dook is PIMP...this could be the best draft pick of the andy reid era
(http://d.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/ap/20080427/capt.19a97f3ac2b34df09a241d04c5d14510.nfl_draft_jackson_football_casp103.jpg)
I couldnt wait to see your reaction man.
Im still amazed he fell, and even more that Andy Reid made the pick. He doesnt fit the mold, and thats extremely exciting
His hands look awkwardly large for a guy his size.
Well...that's why he's a WR.
Quote from: FastFreddie on April 27, 2008, 05:48:12 PM
His hands look awkwardly large for a guy his size.
Is that why you look so flushed?
Self-love is natural. Stop looking at me!
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yea Gaither
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jesus christ...no wonder he dropped so far, dude has mouth cancer
His suit is about to get grease cancer.
we can all use some grease cancer sometimes
Grease cancer is for garage rags and t-shirts, not suits more commonly worn by used car salesmen.
He eats cheese steaks, TO never ate cheese steaks.
DeSean Jackson > TO
Okay, time to get serious. How long until someone photoshops a penis into that picture?
Quote from: General_Failure on April 27, 2008, 07:59:24 PM
Okay, time to get serious. How long until someone photoshops a penis into that picture?
Beermonkey's already working vigorously on that.
those 4 youtube clips of his punt returns were awesome. this guy reminds me more of a dante hall than, a hester. loving this pic even more now :yay
Hester might be the best returner in the history of the NFL (yes, already).
Dante Hall was a flash in the pan for a season.
I'd much rather be reminded of Hester in the return game than Dante.
B-B-But... Dante did that badass "X" thing with his arms!!!
lol...dante hall is the active career leader in td returns and is sixth all time...he was not a one year flash in the pan
i was about to look that up...i knew he was more than a flash in the pan
Sorry, three-year flash in the pan (2002-2004).
Hester's still better.
Call me crazy but if Jackson turns into EITHER Hester or Hall the Eagles just got a lot better. Stupid argument.
Quote from: FastFreddie on April 27, 2008, 05:38:59 PM
That pic reminds me of Rod Tidwell in "Jerry Maguire". Even the guy holding up both fists looks like the "militant" brother character.
Ha! that is exactly what I thought when I saw it. "I love Black People!"
hall is a great return man, one of the best ever, but hester has redefined the position in a remarkably short period of time.
of what i've seen from desean, though, he has hester-like potential to change the game every time he touches the ball. i can't wait to see how it all plays out.
If this guy is such a game-breaking player, how the hell did he drop so far in the draft?
Quote from: Cerevant on April 28, 2008, 10:12:38 AM
If this guy is such a game-breaking player, how the hell did he drop so far in the draft?
it questionable as to how good of a wr he can be...or if he can be one at all
Right now I'll settle for Jackson being a significant upgrade over Mahe, then worry about how he falls as an all-time great. Then again, I might be a significant upgrade over Mahe.
Is he at least fast enough to be a deep threat? I'm not saying he needs to draw double-teams, but this team has had zero ability to stretch the field in recent years. It pains me to say that the Eagles miss Pinkston...
absolutely...tho hes more of a slot guy that can come underneath and take a crossing pass the distance vs being an outside straight down the field receiver
Quote from: ice grillin you on April 28, 2008, 10:13:23 AM
Quote from: Cerevant on April 28, 2008, 10:12:38 AM
If this guy is such a game-breaking player, how the hell did he drop so far in the draft?
it questionable as to how good of a wr he can be...or if he can be one at all
the same can be said for every other receiver taken in this year's draft. none of them have the return skills that jackson has, though. not even close.
Sadly, he's also a slot guy who can come over the middle and get stamped into little DeSean nuggets.
Yeah thats kind of scary
I think Jackson is now the second lightest player in the NFL at 169lb aside from Lamont Brightful who is 160lb--and Brightful is a DB
Id rather be a DB at that weight than a WR all day every day
Well, I'll throw my weight behind him as his official :CF sponsor.
Todd Pinkston was maybe 180 soaking wet and 6'2". It's not like DeSean's built flimsy just because he's on the light side.
Honestly, you don't want a 5'10" speed guy carrying much more than 180-185.
Only saw Jackson's punt returns posted but here's a compilation of some of his receptions. Might just be because he's playing against college kids but he plays a lot bigger than he looks...and damn he's fast.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YPfEkWSEhcY
Jerry Rice talking about Jackson at Cal's pro day
http://youtube.com/watch?v=B786xwLWKj4&feature=user
The dude is small. I'm sure the team will have him in the weight room and he'll play at 175-180. Everyone knows the risks. Hopefully he won't die on the field.
Fire David Culley and hire Jerry Rice. NOW.
what was steve smith's weight coming into the league and what is it now?
Quote from: SD_Eagle on April 28, 2008, 12:58:17 PM
Only saw Jackson's punt returns posted but here's a compilation of some of his receptions. Might just be because he's playing against college kids but he plays a lot bigger than he looks...and damn he's fast.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YPfEkWSEhcY
Check out how fast he blows by the defenders at 3:00. :o
he was listed at 180 but he must have been wearing a scuba tank during that weigh in because he was no more than 165-170. that's he fell into the third round and that's why desean fell into the second.
the stop and go at 3:43 is just sick
i was just about to post that. faked the db right out of his shoes.
Man that kid is fast.
I know it is highlights, but he looks incredible.
Quote from: FastFreddie on April 28, 2008, 12:56:42 PM
Todd Pinkston was maybe 180 soaking wet and 6'2". It's not like DeSean's built flimsy just because he's on the light side.
Honestly, you don't want a 5'10" speed guy carrying much more than 180-185.
How about a 5'6" speed guy who weighs 180 in Darren Sproles?
hes a couple lbs lighter than kevin curtis but a freak athletically...the kind of player the eagles never get...
Quote from: ice grillin you on April 28, 2008, 02:01:45 PM
hes a couple lbs lighter than kevin curtis but a freak athletically...the kind of player the eagles never get...
agreed, I really thought the eagles drafting him was nothing more than a pipe dream. I could not have been happier when I saw the clip of him on the phone before the pick was announced.
perhaps reid has turned the corner here with the additions of booker and desean they have a degree of athleticism on offense that they maybe have never had in his era...bubble screens and reverses...booker in the backfield with westbook and desean split out is pretty exciting stuff
Quote from: reese125 on April 28, 2008, 01:44:39 PM
Quote from: FastFreddie on April 28, 2008, 12:56:42 PM
Todd Pinkston was maybe 180 soaking wet and 6'2". It's not like DeSean's built flimsy just because he's on the light side.
Honestly, you don't want a 5'10" speed guy carrying much more than 180-185.
How about a 5'6" speed guy who weighs 180 in Darren Sproles?
You think he really weighs 180?
Doubtful.
I'm having trouble telling how everyone feels about this pick.
Actually, the fact that everyone is excited about it makes me think that he will be the biggest waste of space ever. Because, you know, we're all farging idiots.
Quote from: ice grillin you on April 28, 2008, 02:29:52 PM
perhaps reid has turned the corner here with the additions of booker and desean they have a degree of athleticism on offense that they maybe have never had in his era...bubble screens and reverses...booker in the backfield with westbook and desean split out is pretty exciting stuff
he finally has some players to go along with his mad scientist play calling. the only thing that bothers me about getting jackson is we might end up seeing more passing calls from that fat clown now. at least there will be a decent decoy out there now, though.
How come nobody told me the Eagles made their trade for a proven #1 receiver? I want to be excited too, damnit.
Quote from: Rome on April 28, 2008, 03:38:47 PM
he finally has some players to go along with his mad scientist play calling. the only thing that bothers me about getting jackson is we might end up seeing more passing calls from that fat clown now. at least there will be a decent decoy out there now, though.
die
Quote from: ice grillin you on April 28, 2008, 02:29:52 PM
perhaps reid has turned the corner here with the additions of booker and desean they have a degree of athleticism on offense that they maybe have never had in his era...bubble screens and reverses...booker in the backfield with westbook and desean split out is pretty exciting stuff
It would be nice that is for sure. But I think rjs may be on to something, we all like it so it is doomed to fail.
Quote from: SunMo on April 28, 2008, 04:01:14 PM
Quote from: Rome on April 28, 2008, 03:38:47 PM
he finally has some players to go along with his mad scientist play calling. the only thing that bothers me about getting jackson is we might end up seeing more passing calls from that fat clown now. at least there will be a decent decoy out there now, though.
die
shut up. my prose is breathtaking.
Quote from: Drunkmasterflex on April 28, 2008, 04:16:10 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on April 28, 2008, 02:29:52 PM
perhaps reid has turned the corner here with the additions of booker and desean they have a degree of athleticism on offense that they maybe have never had in his era...bubble screens and reverses...booker in the backfield with westbook and desean split out is pretty exciting stuff
It would be nice that is for sure. But I think rjs may be on to something, we all like it so it is doomed to fail.
perfect...look for Kolb to make the Pro Bowl then
DeSean Jackson = Freddie Mitchell
Quote from: Yeti on April 28, 2008, 04:46:17 PM
DeSean Jackson = Freddie Mitchell
kill yourself! :fire
Man, I don't know if that stop and go will work on NFL dbacks, but he shore as hell abused Pac10 backs with it. My Gawd! He was just running by players, getting wide, wide open. Made some nice catches in the slot over the middle also.
I'm pumped. Geez, I just hope it's not too good to be true.
Quote from: Yeti on April 28, 2008, 04:46:17 PM
DeSean Jackson = Freddie Mitchell
Other than being undersized cocky junior WRs from the Pac-10 that played football in Los Angeles at some point in their lives and were drafted by the Eagles, how are they the same?
ask desean jackson!
can't. he has mouth cancer. :(
Quote from: Yeti on April 28, 2008, 04:46:17 PM
DeSean Jackson = Freddie Mitchell
oh man, i want to laugh, but that one hurts :boom
Quote from: Yeti on April 28, 2008, 04:46:17 PM
DeSean Jackson = Freddie Mitchell
DeSean can goo 100 yards before Freddie hits the 20.
I didn't think DeSean was good value at 19, I would have preferred a bigger WR in the 1st round, but at 49, it's great value. Special teams has gotten a huge boost in talent this offseason. I'm very excited to see what Reid does with Desean as a WR. 15 plays a game this year plus the return ability should make it an immediate impact pick that us fans haven't seen much in the Reid era.
Quote
Q: When you play Madden, what team do you use? Do you put yourself on the team?
A: Steelers - Yes I put myself on the team.
That bastich.
Does this look like a guy who doesn't put himself on the team?
(http://d.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/ap/20080427/capt.19a97f3ac2b34df09a241d04c5d14510.nfl_draft_jackson_football_casp103.jpg)
Quote from: QB Eagles on April 28, 2008, 08:46:42 PM
Does this look like a guy who doesn't put himself on the team?
(http://d.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/ap/20080427/capt.19a97f3ac2b34df09a241d04c5d14510.nfl_draft_jackson_football_casp103.jpg)
dook in the brown shirt to the right of him looks like Ice Cube's cousin in Next Friday
That'd be Mike Epps and they look nothing alike you racist bastich.
Rod Tidwell
You like stealing my ideas, sailor.
Jerry Rice on Jackson:
"I know what he can do on the football field. I mean, watch out. He is the best route runner I've ever seen. I'm going to be honest with you, he is ready to make plays at the NFL level. He has a lot of work to do, but that's not going to be a problem. He is going to work hard and learn the offense. DeSean is far more advanced than I was at this point in his route running and he has great confidence in his hands. We all know what he can do when he has the ball in his hands. Even in the NFL, when he is out in front of guys, they aren't going to catch him. He is going to bring a whole new dimension to that team, because DeSean can put six points on the board in a hurry."
we'll see
Yeah, pretty much.
I'm excited. Even the potential of a game-changer is good for me right now!
i take what Jerry Rice says for a grain of salt. He works for Eddie Debartolo's agency, which has Jackson. I just cant wait to see this kid on the field
I still wish the Eagles would get rid of their obviously-useless WR coach and hire Jerry.
Why would Jerry Rice have any interest in coaching other receivers? More to the point, though, other than his incredible talents as a receiver, what makes you think he even has the ability to coach them? History has shown that great players usually make for awful coaches.
I also think Culley's garbage but adding a guy like Rice who has no experience coaching at any level seems like a whopper of a reach to me.
The offseason needs to be over now.
I think we need an in-depth analysis of the quality control assistants and interns.
(http://static.nfl.com/static/content/public/image/getty/2008/09000d5d8085f07f_gallery_600.jpg)
HA! One has to wonder what a few here at CF will have him diving into.
Someone just has to put him and SuperDawk in the same picture now.
i was watching the eagles taterskins replay on nfl network yesterday and they flashed a stat that the eagles were the only nfl team without any kind of return of more than 30 yards....i immediately thought of deejay and smiled
(http://media.philly.com/images/20080521_dn_peterpan_400.jpg)(http://enrico.blogs.com/photos/uncategorized/2007/09/06/bdawk.jpg)
Jackson was in studio on NBC10 Sports Final. Nothing new other than saying he loves the Phillies and Utley went to his high school...
signed.....4-yr deal
Is that a real Desean pic in an official Eagles uni or is that a McFarlane?
real, but shrinking it to 80x80 ruins it
Do you have the original?
(http://i6.ebayimg.com/02/i/000/fe/a6/9505_1.JPG)
oh, damn...i thought that was koy in ed's pic
So who hasn't signed yet other than Laws?
just laws
How many picks later was DeSean taken? 2?
Signing Laws should be in the bag by now. The Eagles are probably trying to get him to accept a 5th year.
Quote from: FastFreddie on July 21, 2008, 09:23:29 AMThe Eagles are probably trying to get him to accept a 5th year.
A feat which would be easier to pull off if they had paid Westbrook by now. Why on earth a guy would consent to a fifth year with a team that nickles and dimes it's players, I don't know.
I think the max they can go with rookies chosen after the 1st round is 4 years.
Correct me if I'm wrong, Edward.
Well, it doesn't really matter which team you're accepting the extra year from if the money is right. That said, if he expects to get a chance to re-up before year 5 anyway, then he should stick to his guns and only accept a 4-year-deal.
Players and agents are as much to blame for this shtein. If your guy is thinks he'll outperform his contract by the end of it, don't accept the extra years unless the salaries escalate ridiculously.
They better watch out... the Eagles are fighting the Laws...
Quote from: Rome on July 21, 2008, 09:40:52 AM
I think the max they can go with rookies chosen after the 1st round is 4 years.
Correct me if I'm wrong, Edward.
Clearly I'm not of BigEd status, but yeah you're right.
Can they do 4 years with a team option for the 5th? If so, you gotta believe Joe and Howie are pushing for it.
Those pictures from back in May:
(http://static.nfl.com/static/content/public/image/getty/2008/09000d5d8085f07f_gallery_600.jpg) (http://media.philly.com/images/20080521_dn_peterpan_400.jpg)
....turned into this for the final result:
(http://i12.ebayimg.com/02/i/001/03/35/f032_1_sbl.JPG)
A day and a half and we'll see him in an Eagles uni on TV. Who knows if he'll get any action with the first or second team though. I've heard Greg Lewis, Baskett, and Avant are really going nutso in camp, and are due for HUGE years!
in lieu of reggie brown failing to become the next ocho cinco i heard that jason avant is now the new chad johnson
Hank Baskett is supposedly the next Marques Colston
so Baskett has another spectacular camp and will post 2 great catches in 2 preseason games and we are all supposed to be believers again?
I love camp
He lost 20 lbs. and looks faster. I always felt he could be halfway decent if he were a little faster. We'll see.
Man, I didn't like the fact that Jackson seized up, or stopped running on that deep pass at the start of the game the other night. He's supposed to have the speed to get to those passes from Dmac. That play, dropping passes, and the fumble after his best return so far, put a damper on what could have been a bright spot in a downer of a game.
He still leads all receivers in yards and recepts. I hope we saw rookie mistakes on a wet field.. He's been getting open and looks to have the tools to play in the NFL, imo. He looks good overall, but a Eagle fan looking for a good wideout is like a starving dog going through your trash. I'll take any scrap or bone.
that ball was grossly overthrown
It went inches off his fingertips. Inches!! Watch the video, he slowed up, wether it be was because he thought it was overthrown or not, he slowed up, and could have gotten hands on it if he kept running. Least wayz, thats the way it looked to me.
we must be talking about different plays
Your gonna' make me watch it again.
DAMMITT MAN!! I must have deleted it last night.
I thought he left his feet too soon. If he runs through it, IMO, he brings it in.
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on August 17, 2008, 11:26:38 AM
I thought he left his feet too soon. If he runs through it, IMO, he brings it in.
^^^
The guy's a rookie WR who has been playing with the Eagles QBs for a month. Given those facts, the show he's been putting on is incredible. I'm still much more worried about his ability to take NFL hits than his talent. Not many WRs come into the league as fully formed players. He'll clear up some of those mistakes and keep getting better.
im still baffled as to how anyone could see that play and think it wasnt over thrown
we are talking about the pass down the sideline around the 15 right?
Yep.
He had a shot to catch the ball but he left his feet too soon. If he keeps running he catches it.
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on August 17, 2008, 01:25:02 PM
Yep.
He had a shot to catch the ball but he left his feet too soon. If he keeps running he catches it.
Exactly. I said it as soon as the play was over.
"McNabb overthrew Jackson a bit, but Jackson very badly mistimed his dive."
Quote from: QB Eagles on August 17, 2008, 01:02:51 PM
The guy's a rookie WR who has been playing with the Eagles QBs for a month. Given those facts, the show he's been putting on is incredible. I'm still much more worried about his ability to take NFL hits than his talent. Not many WRs come into the league as fully formed players. He'll clear up some of those mistakes and keep getting better.
I thought it was a nice double move to get open. You can see from just two games he has as much talent as any receiver on the team. I just would have loved to seen him haul that pass in.
Quote from: Munson on August 17, 2008, 03:38:59 PM
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on August 17, 2008, 01:25:02 PM
Yep.
He had a shot to catch the ball but he left his feet too soon. If he keeps running he catches it.
Exactly. I said it as soon as the play was over.
"McNabb overthrew Jackson a bit, but Jackson very badly mistimed his dive."
Dive? I remember him leaving his feet, which slowed him up a bit, but don't remember any dive.
To me it looked like he couldn't decide between jumping and diving and just grossly mistimed it altogether.
But that'll come with timing as he grows with McNabb this year. If he works up to 3rd on the depth chart, I think he could catch 30 passes this year. God knows Reid throws it enough to do so.
If Jackson isn't already third on the depth chart Reid should be castrated.
Actually given how his first two kids turned out he should probably be castrated anyway.
He's not even on any depth chart at WR that I've seen, just PR.
He def. could of gotten to that ball...I was watching it with my roomates and we all were like...how the hell didn't he get that it was a perfectly thrown football...it looked like he hesitated slightly and lost momentum. that should of gone for 6 easily. im thinking maybe the rain had something to do with it. it was pouring on that play.
who am i kidding farg MCNABB!
Usain Bolt would have had that ball
Quote from: ice grillin you on August 17, 2008, 01:04:20 PM
im still baffled as to how anyone could see that play and think it wasnt over thrown
we are talking about the pass down the sideline around the 15 right?
I didn't say it wasn't overthrown... it clearly was. Just that Jackson was running it down while it was in the air and got to the point where if he had either kept running or timed his dive better, he may have been able to get to it.
Had he caught it, it would have been a case of Jackson's speed saving a "bad" pass from McNabb.
Cowboys fan on Martellus Bennett vs. DeSean Jackson
QuoteBennett is going to be a hell of a lot better than Jackson.
Even though Bennett was probably the top tight end in the draft, you really can't compare the two. I guarantee you that jackson scores more than Bennett, and has more of an impact. Just because he will be on the field a lot more. Bennett is behind one of the best TE's in the game. He's not going to see the field much. So far this preseason, he has three recepts. Jackson had that many in the first half of his first game.
I have to say, like everyone else, I love what I saw from him on Friday. I don't want to get too excited, but man, he looks good. Good enough that I snatched him up with a homer pick in the 10th round of one of my fantasy leagues last night.
The Eagles depth chart from the official site is useless. They don't even have Jackson on it at WR as of this morning.
Quote from: shorebird on August 24, 2008, 09:18:12 AM
The Eagles depth chart from the official site is useless.
This has
always been true and I wonder why people still expect otherwise.
QuoteTwo rookies help Eagles burn Patriots
By Tim Panaccio
Inquirer Staff Writer
FOXBOROUGH, Mass. - DeSean Jackson admits he got a little jealous after watching Quintin Demps' 101-yard kickoff return for the Eagles in last night's preseason game against New England at Gillette Stadium.
"I definitely thought about that he scored one before I did," Jackson said. "It went through my mind. I thought, 'The next time I get out, I've got to take it the distance, because he did.' It's a very competitive game."
Soon after Demps' return, Jackson, the electrifying Smurf from California, returned a punt 76 yards for another touchdown as the Eagles beat the Patriots, 27-17.
A week earlier, the Eagles had all kinds of issues with their return teams - failing to hold blocks, fumbling catches, and returners' being unable to quickly spot lanes ahead of them.
All of that changed dramatically last night, thanks to the two Eagles rookies.
"They're both explosive players and different in their games," coach Andy Reid said. "They're young and have a lot of energy. They love to play. Veteran players love watching them."
It was a hollow victory, however. Starting free safety Brian Dawkins suffered a right-ankle injury in the second quarter and was carted off the field. X-rays were negative, but an MRI exam was planned for today.
The Eagles improved to 2-1 in the preseason, with a final exhibition game set for Thursday night at home against Brett Favre and the New York Jets.
"I thought it was a good game in some spots and in others where we need to pick up and do some work," Reid said. "I was glad to see we tackled better and caught the ball better than last week."
Demps had to break just one tackle, brushing aside kicker Stephen Gostkowski. "You have to have a mentality that every time you have a shot, to return it," Demps said. "My blockers, I just trusted them so I could get going. I took advantage of my opportunity."
Jackson took the ball off the far left sideline, cut through a gaping hole in the wedge, then outsprinted three defenders in returning the punt for a touchdown. He had predicted he was "close" to breaking one.
"It was a beautiful punt return," Jackson said. "I felt the punter got a good kick on it and kind of outkicked his coverage. I just did a great job of catching the ball and making two moves to the side, hitting the seam, and getting right up the middle. From there, it was nothing but daylight."
The Eagles had a red-zone touchdown and field goal in the first half; another red-zone TD was called back. Donovan McNabb looked sharp, completing 13 of 17 passes for 180 yards and a touchdown in the half. Jackson had four catches for 67 yards, and L.J. Smith had three for 44. Jason Avant had the lone TD reception.
Because of Kevin Curtis' sports hernia, the receiving game is still up in the air, but Jackson's sizzling catches and runs after the catch could be the X-factor against opposing secondaries.
"I felt great," McNabb said. "We are progressing week in and week out. . . . I think you have to give guys opportunities to make plays, and we did that."
Although the Eagles went 76 yards on 14 plays to open the game with a 24-yard field goal by David Akers, they could have had seven points.
McNabb used Brian Westbrook liberally during that drive, with the big play a 19-yard screen pass in the right flat that gave the Birds a first down at the Patriots' 18. From there, however, McNabb threw two incompletions in the end zone, with the second toss batted by Tedy Bruschi to Smith out of bounds.
The mystery surrounding Patriots quarterback Tom Brady continued. Bothered by a right-foot injury, which the club won't elaborate on, he has not yet taken an exhibition-game snap. It has been confirmed that the injury is unrelated to what bothered him near the end of last season.
Matt Cassell started for Brady and displayed some running ability with an 18-yard dash through the linebackers.
The offense got bottled up pretty good on the Eagles' second possession when Tra Thomas was nailed for holding, then Bruschi sneaked inside to sack McNabb, setting up third down and 23. McNabb completed a pass to Greg Lewis well short of the first down.
Jackson nearly broke a punt in the first quarter, settling for a 45-yard return that was nullified by two holding calls
Thats awesome, Freddie Mitchell's love for himself, except he has skill
oh, and Timmay P sucks ass, calling the GAWD a smurf
It's comforting to see that Pinocchio knows less about football than he does about hockey.
If this guy makes it past the 4th week without a sports hernia or a season ending injury it will be amazing...good praise from the other players regardless
http://www.phillyburbs.com/pb-dyn/news/99-08252008-1581070.html (http://www.phillyburbs.com/pb-dyn/news/99-08252008-1581070.html)
Spadaro actually used Bobby Hoying as an example of why we shouldn't be overly excited about Jackson today.
I mean, how do you even respond to something like that?
By firebombing his face and loved ones.
"Hoy to the world"
As soon as we see a Jackson title like the Hoying one on the back of the Daily News, we know its downhill from there
Quote from: rjs246 on August 25, 2008, 04:42:07 PM
By firebombing his face and loved ones.
A little early to be nipping at the Absinthe wouldn't you say?
Never.
Quote from: reese125 on August 25, 2008, 04:26:16 PM
If this guy makes it past the 4th week without a sports hernia or a season ending injury it will be amazing...good praise from the other players regardless
http://www.phillyburbs.com/pb-dyn/news/99-08252008-1581070.html (http://www.phillyburbs.com/pb-dyn/news/99-08252008-1581070.html)
From that same article:
QuoteAfter intercepting Donovan McNabb while covering Jackson, Asante Samuel shouted out, "75 percent of the world is covered by water. The other 25 percent is covered by Zont," which is Samuel's nickname ... Lito Sheppard got into the act as well, yelling, "Get that (stuff) out of here" after batting down a McNabb pass while covering Bam Childress, then heaving the ball 40 yards back toward the offensive huddle and nearly hitting assistant coach Otis Smith in the head
Quote from: QB Eagles on August 25, 2008, 05:45:32 PM
QuoteAfter intercepting Donovan McNabb while covering Jackson, Asante Samuel shouted out, "75 percent of the world is covered by water. The other 25 percent is covered by Zont," which is Samuel's nickname ... Lito Sheppard got into the act as well, yelling, "Get that (stuff) out of here" after batting down a McNabb pass while covering Bam Childress, then heaving the ball 40 yards back toward the offensive huddle and nearly hitting assistant coach Otis Smith in the head
this is the kind of stuff I'd like to see in sports reporting..great copy
He jacked that line from Walt Harris who actually made t-shirts to say that,
^^
and this is why I love teh Intarwebs, because without you guys, I'd never know that.
QuoteEagles Trying to Keep Jackson Humble
by Jordan Raanan
ComcastSportsNet.com Contributor
DeSean Jackson walks a bit differently. He talks a bit differently. It has nothing to do with where he's from or what he's done. It's just who he is — a wide receiver with plenty of confidence in his ability.
Jackson possesses an air of confidence (some say cockiness) that is rare among rookies. But it's not so unique among wide receivers. Terrell Owens has it. So does Chad Johnson. Even a much quieter, less flamboyant Jerry Rice, Jackson's mentor, had it. It's seems like a prerequisite for greatness at the high-profile skill position. It just usually takes a few years in the NFL for such self-assuredness to develop. Not for Jackson.
"He's just getting his personality a little bit earlier than some dudes," cornerback Lito Sheppard said. "It's not like he has a top-notch vet receiver over here to tell him to be quiet or anything. So why not?"
Maybe the situation would be different if Jackson was caddying for Rice like Owens did. But Reggie Brown and Kevin Curtis are relatively soft-spoken themselves and still trying to carve their own niche.
The Eagles are well aware Jackson struts rather uniquely, especially for a rookie. They appear worried he is going to become overconfident and hit a wall in the regular season. That's likely why they have made a concerted effort to publicly downplay his early success. Jackson is tied with former Eagles receiver Billy McMullen for the NFL preseason lead with 16 receptions. He's fourth with 189 yards. Still, there has been relatively minimal public patting on the back.
"You have to understand, this is exhibition play," quarterback Donovan McNabb said earlier this week. "When you get into the regular season, obviously it's a lot different. Teams are game planning for you, they're coming up with schemes to try and stop some of the things that we've done. So, there are a lot of things that he'll see and he'll be faced with. That's why I say 'just be patient, it's just the preseason.'"
Offensive coordinator Marty Mornhinweg reminds Jackson "every day" there is plenty of room for improvement. Coach Andy Reid stated publicly Jackson's "got things to refine." It's been a full-blown assault on the rookie's ego.
Jackson admits he hears it a little bit more than usual from the coaches in meetings and film sessions. "You haven't done anything yet," they say. "We expect this out of you. We expect you to go out there and make the plays you've been making."
The constant pestering doesn't bother the second-round pick out of California one bit.
"That's how it is. You're a rookie," Jackson said. "With the success I've had, they just want to humble me and make sure I'm a humble person.
"But I feel like I'm humble no matter what. It's good for them to get on me, but I don't think I'm going to get a big head. I'm just going to keep going out there and making big plays."
Some construe Jackson's supreme confidence as cockiness. Really, though, it's all just semantics, and all that matters is production.
"It doesn't matter if he's cocky," Sheppard said. "It's the preseason but there are still NFL players out there. They're not letting him do that. If he continues to do what he is doing, I don't know why he shouldn't be happy with it. He's playing good football."
With both the Eagles' starting wide receivers, Curtis and Brown, currently injured, Jackson's workload is expected to increase. Even if Brown's hamstring improves and he returns as expected for the regular season opener a week from Sunday against St. Louis, Reid still isn't ready to name Jackson as the other starting wide receiver. He said Tuesday that Jackson, Greg Lewis, Hank Baskett and Jason Avant are all in the running for the vacant starting spot.
It doesn't matter that Jackson has statistically outperformed his competition. The Eagles remain reluctant to bestow the honor on the scrawny, diminutive wideout. They remain reluctant to bestow any praise. Maybe it's because they don't want Jackson's head getting too big too early. Or maybe it's because he still has room to improve. Likely, it's both.
"There are so many things you can get better at every day," Jackson said. "Whatever it is, I look at film and go out there and progress every day."
Cocky or not, progression is good.
Jordan Raanan is a regular contributor to ComcastSportsNet.com. Jordan also runs the Eagles blog, Eaglesville.
Pissed off Lito is much more fun than regular Lito.
That said, he missed on no less than two INT opportunities against the Patriots, so he's got to channel his anger better on the field.
i love it...the Eagles finally get a receiver with talent and attitude to match and all they want him to do is fall in line with all the other emotional cripples on the team
i could give two shteins about what Lito is saying, but the fact that they are trying to break Jackson down is hilarious.
I don't care if it's just pre-season or not. I luuuuuuuv what I see. I'm so farging starved for a game breaking wideout that I can't help but get excited about what I see from Jackson.
If he doesn't start in the season opening game, someone should slip a mickey in one of Andy Reid's cheesesteaks.
I hope he watched a lot of tape on how to pull a. Marvin Harrison or Holt before he gets tackled.
My hope is that he'll be too fast to take a big hit. Kind of scared about the consequences of said big hit.
was just checking to see if anyone bashed the pick but loves him now
Quote from: King Cole on April 26, 2008, 07:59:48 PMHonestly. I hate to be a downer here, but he won't help us right away. This team is a joke.
shocking
Ha
lol
Quote from: King Cole on April 26, 2008, 07:59:48 PMI hate to be a downer here, but he won't help us right away.
lol
what funnier that cole actually thought other people would be down on jackson because he said so or that he had a 50 yard catch on the second play of his first game ever
i wanted this cat last november when i started looking at the potential eagle first rounds picks...hard to believe they got him in the second round
He was one of the most vauable players on the team this past week. It's shocking that Dmac and Reid have that much conficence in him to call his number the first play from scrimmage. Dude must have picked the offense up with the quickness. He's a two pronged threat. Returns and receiving.
I'm dying to see what he does against Dallas. He's got me stoked. He might be short in stature, but against the Rams he played like he was 7' tall. He'll get tested this week. It's only a matter of time 'till he takes on to the house. The perfect time to do it will be against Dallas at their stadium. Shut that crowd up quick.
Quote from: shorebird on September 09, 2008, 01:18:14 PMDude must have picked the offense up with the quickness.
The same way TO and Stallworth did?
Maybe it wasn't the offense. Maybe it's talent.
Quote from: BigEd76 on September 09, 2008, 01:30:29 PM
Quote from: shorebird on September 09, 2008, 01:18:14 PMDude must have picked the offense up with the quickness.
The same way TO and Stallworth did?
Maybe it wasn't the offense. Maybe it's talent.
True, but this is a rook right out of college, the other two were seasoned vets who had played on teams with similar offenses.
Quote from: ice grillin you on September 09, 2008, 01:15:48 PMwhat funnier that cole actually thought other people would be down on jackson because he said so or that he had a 50 yard catch on the second play of his first game ever
You need to pull back on the throttle, killer. It was only a 47 yard gain
Pump your breaks, homey?
brakes?
Brakes are for Hoydas.
Quote from: rjs246 on September 09, 2008, 01:39:18 PM
Pump your breaks, homey?
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I'm pretty sure there were a couple more, but I had Jackson penciled in as the Eagles 1st round pick in the CF Draft Contest. To see him fall to Philly in the 2nd had me happy as all hell.
Quote from: Yeti on April 28, 2008, 04:46:17 PM
DeSean Jackson = Freddie Mitchell
This might be the best post of all time.
Just to note--prob already mentioned:
2nd player in NFL history to accomplish back to back 100+ yd'ers to start career.
Don Looney was the other in 1940
DNL just showed a clip of Desean doing the same thing he did lastnight in a high school football all star game. He took a pass 50 yards down the sideline and did a swan dive from the 5 landing 1 yard short of the endzone.
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i'll take it once every 4 years
Idiot.
GF has his new Trotter
I hope he cuts up his hand with a chainsaw.
As long as he doesn't brake his hand, he'll be fine.
at the risk of sounding like spads i will say this....he needs to add some muscle to his frame.
one or two big hits and he will be down for the count.
I just remember jumping for joy slapping hands...and then...that sinking feeling in your gut. another eagles moment....classic
i hope the coaches ripped him a new ass today
Quote from: mussa on September 16, 2008, 08:38:19 PM
I just remember jumping for joy slapping hands...and then...that sinking feeling in your gut. another eagles moment....classic
i hope the coaches ripped him a new ass today
Yep... that was my hope after seeing that. They'll tear into him... let him know that they won't all come this easy... and next time he visits the end zone... he'll carry that sumbitch all the way back to the sideline.
So I'm going crazy when I see him break free
He catches the ball and I'm in full blown farg DALLAS mode. Then I hear the crowd go "awwwwwwwwww" and I could not figure out what happened. When I saw it I wanted to go down there and choke that farger.
If Curtis and Brown were healthy you know Reid would have benched his ass.
I was watching the sideline to see if Andy would get in his ass and how he would react. He was standing there laughing and joking around as they were reviewing the play.
Still love the little bastich though
Quote from: EagleFeva on September 16, 2008, 08:50:20 PM
Quote from: mussa on September 16, 2008, 08:38:19 PM
I just remember jumping for joy slapping hands...and then...that sinking feeling in your gut. another eagles moment....classic
i hope the coaches ripped him a new ass today
Yep... that was my hope after seeing that. They'll tear into him... let him know that they won't all come this easy... and next time he visits the end zone... he'll carry that sumbitch all the way back to the sideline.
I swear, if I had been in Reids place, he'd have carried his ass all the way to the locker room and then the bus.
I like him, but goddamn, that was the single dumbest thing I've ever seen any player outside Leon Lett do on a football field.
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I listened to Reid's show on wysp last night. He said all the guys on the sideline talked to him, Desean knew he messed up, but the team feeds off his energy and they just reminded him to wait until you get in there. Reid really praised him which doesnt happen often.
Quote from: shorebird on September 16, 2008, 10:25:02 PM
I swear, if I had been in Reids place, he'd have carried his ass all the way to the locker room and then the bus.
you would have had fun calling plays for greg lewis the rest of the game
settle down
Greg Lewis played well.
DeSean needs to DeGrow Up and act like a professional. That was some stupid awful thinking from him. I hope he's been cured of his overgrown ego by it.
Quote from: Diomedes on September 17, 2008, 08:00:48 AM
Greg Lewis played well.
no chance you watched that game
he got open like twice the entire game had three catches and two drops...one being a huge one in the fourth quarter
he sucked
Quote from: Diomedes on September 17, 2008, 08:00:48 AM
Greg Lewis played well.
False.
QuoteDeSean needs to DeGrow Up and act like a professional. That was some stupid awful thinking from him. I hope he's been cured of his overgrown ego by it.
True.
Um, he's 21 years old, right? No chance he'll mature in say the next 10 years or so.
talent >>>>>>>>>>> maturity
would you rather have hank baskett or plaxico burress?
Quote from: rjs246 on September 17, 2008, 08:05:46 AM
Quote from: Diomedes on September 17, 2008, 08:00:48 AM
Greg Lewis played well.
False.
His first target was a 17 yard catch for a first down.
His second was incomplete on a good defensive play by Dallas.
Third time he was targeted he drew a gift PI call.
Fourth time McNabb looked his way was a 13 yard completion for a first down.
Fifth time was another first down on a 6 yard completion.
Sixth time Lewis couldn't reel in the catch on the sideline before going out of bounds. First bad play by G.Lew.
So what did he do wrong? He's not a starter. What did you want from him?
if you benched desean jackson he would have been the starter
and stop with hes not a starter stuff...just because hes not a starter doesnt mean you can get a better wr in his place
Yeah, in the same way Seneca Wallace would have been a starting WR for Seattle. So what.
He played well for who and what he is..I got no complaint on G.Lew.
I was going to say he's the Glew that keeps the offense together but thought better of it.
Quote from: Diomedes on September 17, 2008, 08:25:38 AM
Yeah, in the same way Seneca Wallace would have been a starting WR for Seattle. So what.
because shorebird said he would have sent the pimp home after his gaffe...that would have left greg lewis and hank baskett as your starters for the rest of the game...it would have been incredibly stupid...if your answer to that is so what greg lewis is the bestest then you really dont care whether the team wins or not
I was talking to my Dad and he was telling me how Desean was getting roasted on the radio for his bonehead play. Not a surprise really, he did say he did the same thing before in high school. That is a mild concern. He also told me that the Cowboys loved Desean coming out of college but thought he was a head case. Ha and they have TO and Adam.
Quote from: Rome on September 17, 2008, 08:31:11 AM
I was going to say he's the Glew that keeps the offense together but thought better of it.
Clearly.
If we start arguing about greg lewis again, I am going to kill a randomn pedestrian.
I see no down side to this plan.
dio is white and dorky and greg lewis is the closest thing to white and dorky healthy eceiver the eagles have. pimp jackson is too ghetto for his liking.
I love Jackson. The only thing he's done so far that doesn't scream "real deal" was this one rotten, egotistic play. I hope the team rides him hard for it all week long. He should be humbled a bit.
But no, I don't think he should have been benched--regardless how many other good or bad WR options were available--and I'm glad he wasn't. If he does something like that again though, I think he should be shot in the face.
And G.Lew, well the performance speaks for itself. He was a valuable role player when the team needed him. You can't ask him to be more than that because that's the best he could give.
In summary...DeSean is black and I'm scared of him and G.Lew is white so I think he should start over the scary one.
Well, after cooling off a bit, maybe I did overeact with the benching comment, but still, that was the dumbest thing I've seen on a football field in quite some time, and I've watched a lot of football. It wasn't really hot dogging it ala' TO. All he did was spike the ball like I've seen 1,000 other players do ever since I started watching the game. Problem was, it was a yard out and then to top it off, he starts doing the funky chicken in the end zone when he didn't even score.
DUMB!
I dunno' maybe he was a little too excited, after all, it was Monday Night Football against Dallas. Any Eagle fan can't help but love what they see from him. It was only his second game, and even as good as he looks, he's still learning.
I'm just pissed, that game was the Eagles to win. How does McNabb not know what the farg to do with the ball on a goddamn handoff?? He's been in the league way to long to make dumbass mistakes like that. DeSean is a rook, he's supposed to be a seasoned vet. What the farg?!?!? In hindsight, McNabb's blunder cost the Eagles way more than DeSean's stupidity. That fumbled handoff turned the game around in the Cowboys favor.
No doubt, that hand-off was just bad, i dn't know if he audibled at the line or what, but that was a bad play by McNabb and it came at the worst time.
I long for the days of well timed bad plays.
Pimp's gonna go for 150 Sunday.
Only 13 more catches until igy owes me a cool ten. I'm gonna spend it at olive garden
Quote from: SD_Eagle on September 17, 2008, 08:43:58 PM
Only 13 more catches until igy owes me a cool ten. I'm gonna spend it at olive garden
LOL
MA FTL
For five bucks I'll blow out his knee.
ill make it
Quote from: General_Failure on September 17, 2008, 08:50:15 PM
For five bucks I'll blow out his knee.
Yeah, but MDS will blow him for $3.
I don't see how that will help IGY win his bet.
QuoteJackson's action adds to sad legacy of showboating showstoppers
Sep. 17, 2008
By Mike Freeman
CBSSports.com National Columnist
Tell Mike your opinion!
DeSean Jackson is going to end up as a cautionary tale. He absolutely will. Twenty years from now some coach will say to some hot-dogging fool, "If you keep this up, you're going to end up like DeSean Jackson." And that won't be viewed as a good thing.
The sad thing is, Jackson is likely a lost cause. He clearly doesn't listen to anyone and could give a damn about how he's viewed, which are two dangerous aspects of a personality. He's practically destined to jackass himself out of football (yeah, I used jackass that way). Then he'll look back and wonder: What the hell happened?
DeSean Jackson's talent is undeniable. His decision making is undeniably bad.
There have been people in Jackson's ear for some time now. DeSean, calm down, they've told him. DeSean, you're a great talent, let your ability speak for itself.
Unfortunately Jackson might never get it and he's part of a larger issue, one in which too many African-American players seem to have no problem Steppin' and Fetchin' before America without guilt or shame.
I'm tired of it. It's getting ridiculous. I'm not talking about making one or two mistakes. We all do that. I'm talking about serial Step and Fetchers like Jackson who don't seem to understand that their acts carry larger consequences.
If you haven't heard of Jackson, then you've missed a player who could be the next great wide receiver in football. On Monday night he became the first NFL player in almost seven decades to open his career with two 100-yard performances. He's probably the most physically gifted young receiver I've seen in 20 years of being around the sport.
Unfortunately, Jackson is starting to make Terrell Owens look like Alan Greenspan.
Jackson pulled what almost was the biggest bonehead move we've seen in professional football since Leon Lett. Against a heated rival, with the entire country watching, Jackson decided to showboat after making a big catch by casually tossing away the football. The problem was, he failed to first cross the goal line and what should have been a marvelous 61-yard touchdown was negated.
What in the name of Chris Cooley's junk was Jackson thinking?
Somewhere Don Beebe was laughing his ass off again.
The Eagles still retained possession of the football and were able to score on the following play. If Philadelphia had lost that touchdown, I'd have worried about Jackson's safety upon returning to Philly.
I can hear some black readers now. Shut up Freeman. You're an Uncle Tom. All the man's doing is celebrating.
No, you shut up. You're an enabler.
None of this would be written if this was Jackson's only mistake. We all make them. Except Jackson did this in high school. The exact same thing. He was a clown in college as well. He wants to do this. He revels in doing this. He'll likely keep doing it.
There's no difference between Jackson's actions -- and the cadre of fools like Owens and his ilk -- and those African-Americans who once debased and degraded themselves because that's what they believed whites wanted to see.
Your Turn: Reader Rip
ttechfan1987: Sorry, nonchalantly flipping the ball is not showboating. Once he realized what he had done, he had to dance so that he wouldn't draw attention to the premature flip. Watch the replay. You can see his body start to turn and go for the ball, but then he sees the ref signaling touchdown, so he goes with it. Had he acted in desperation and tried to recover the ball, he would have been beaten to the punch.
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Mike Freeman: The problem with that argument is that Jackson was so concerned about what celebration dance he was going to do, he forgot to earn the actual touchdown. Trying to score a TD? Good. Trying to be cool and focusing on the dance instead of actual football? Not so good.
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Jackson is young and he'll learn, you respond. That might be true, but it doesn't seem like he's really interested in learning from his mistakes. He might be brainwashed into believing that's the way African-Americans are supposed to behave in the workplace. No one's told him any differently. All the popular media and music do is embolden people like Jackson.
Jackson doesn't think he's doing anything wrong and that's the most frightening part of all this.
After the football bounced back into the field of play Jackson then did a little dance. Just beautiful. What will Jackson do next? Pull out a Sharpie?
Oh, wait, that's already been done.
What needs to happen is this: The Philadelphia locker room is full of great professionals, and some of the players need to pull Jackson aside and give him a good tongue lashing.
Then something else must occur. Some of the black players should have a chat with Jackson. They need to tell him not to become another 21st century sports minstrel.
It's not too late. Don't jackass yourself out of football, Mr. Jackson. Please.
If there were some genuine psychos on this team, he wouldn't be a problem.
Quote from: General_Failure on September 17, 2008, 09:08:59 PM
If there were some genuine psychos on this team, he wouldn't be a problem.
exactly
insanity.....women....alcohol...bumps of raw medicine...get some personality on this team
please they brought in fred mitchell and to and that was their foray into personalities. pimp jackson is the closest you will get. andy likes guys who dont get into trouble. funny enough he popped out 2 kids who are really good at that.
This team needs a crazy white dude, somewhere in the 230-260lb range.
Quote from: MDS on September 17, 2008, 09:15:09 PM
please they brought in fred mitchell and to and that was their foray into personalities. pimp jackson is the closest you will get. andy likes guys who dont get into trouble. funny enough he popped out 2 kids who are really good at that.
kill yourself
freddie mitchell was softer than you...and he was a loud mouthed talentless pusssie....dont ever ever ever ever ever EVER again use his name and pimps in the same breath
Quote from: General_Failure on September 17, 2008, 09:15:26 PM
This team needs a crazy white dude, somewhere in the 230-260lb range.
Matt McCoy?
A crazy white dude who also has talent.
josh parry?
Quote from: ice grillin you on September 17, 2008, 09:17:59 PM
Quote from: MDS on September 17, 2008, 09:15:09 PM
please they brought in fred mitchell and to and that was their foray into personalities. pimp jackson is the closest you will get. andy likes guys who dont get into trouble. funny enough he popped out 2 kids who are really good at that.
kill yourself
freddie mitchell was softer than you...and he was a loud mouthed talentless pusssie....dont ever ever ever ever ever EVER again use his name and pimps in the same breath
call me soft again and see what happens.
probably nothing.
As long as its somebody that will threaten to choke the life out of Jackson, and then try to follow up on it.
Yes, Steve Lattimer
Who is Mike Freeman and why should I give two shteins about his opinion, especially about a guy who's come out and put up back to back 100 yard receiving days in his first two games as a pro?
Stupid blogging Romes all need to be zyklon-b'd and then incinerated.
He's just some Uncle Tom who over-reacts... just a little.
QuoteHe's practically destined to jackass himself out of football (yeah, I used jackass that way). Then he'll look back and wonder: What the hell happened?
:-D
He is a fargin' idiot though.
Mike Freeman or DePimp? Or both?
GET YO JACKSON MINI HELMET
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Quote from: FastFreddie on September 24, 2008, 02:51:27 PM
GET YO JACKSON MINI HELMET
The mailman takes it all the way up to your door and then throws it away.
That got a hearty LOL, sir. Well done.
seconded
If we continue this theme, does it mean Jackson has a long, productive career ahead of him in the adult film industry?
I bet when he has sex, he gets the girl right on the brink of orgasm and quickly depenetrates and goes home.
Isn't that what everyone does?
Only if brink means nowhere near.
Quote from: FastFreddie on September 24, 2008, 02:51:27 PM
GET YO JACKSON MINI HELMET
I thought Jackson was a mini helmet after he threw the ball away at the one against Dallas. He will be good though, but he is young and stupid right now. He will be better when White Lightning is healthy.
I can't wait to see him when he's old and stupid.
For what it's worth, the pimp has put up some nice numbers so far. He's second amoung rookies for total yards behind Eddie Royal. 25th overall in the NFL.
recpts. yds. avg. avg.G long. td. 20+ 40+ 1st 1st% fum.
DeSean Jackson PHI WR
53 775 14.6 59.6 60 2 14 2 36 67.9 1
These stats make him the leading receiver on the Eagles by far. Hank Baskett is second, over 200 yds. behind DJ. How this team has managed to win as many games as they have is baffling when you think about that. Get a pro-bowl reciever on this team like Williams and this team would have a top 5 receiving corps, imo.
What Williams? Roy? He's only made the PB once and he's done nothing in Dallas. I was a huge fan of him, but boy was I uncharacteristically wrong in a player evaluation. He is soft and way too inconsistent. That said, they still need an upgrade, and Roy would've been one, but not beating the price Dallas paid. No farging way. Not with the 10+ needs we have on the team and giving up like 4 picks for him.
Williams is playing hurt, was traded mid-season to a team he has no chemistry with, and hasn't had a chance to get into rhythm with his QB due to the QB being injured. Garrett has been too conservative with his offense to try integrating Williams (who is open on many plays) as the key possession receiver midway through the season. Garrett should probably use him more often on shorter routes too.
The Cowboys aren't using Williams right. I think he's still a good-but-not-elite #1 on most teams.
Whatever, my main point was that DJ, even though he seems to have gone flat in recent games, has not played that bad overall and is by far the best receiver on this team, and right up there with the best rookie receivers in the NFL.
i would still trade a 1st round pick for a talented WR like roy williams who is only 26.
Quote from: QB Eagles on December 10, 2008, 10:26:41 PM
Williams is playing hurt, was traded mid-season to a team he has no chemistry with, and hasn't had a chance to get into rhythm with his QB due to the QB being injured. Garrett has been too conservative with his offense to try integrating Williams (who is open on many plays) as the key possession receiver midway through the season. Garrett should probably use him more often on shorter routes too.
The Cowboys aren't using Williams right. I think he's still a good-but-not-elite #1 on most teams.
yeah, when youre the 3rd option on any squad dont expect to be getting Pro-Bowl nods
I'm not sure I give up a first for Williams when guys like Houshmandzadeh are out there on the FA market after the season and you can get one and retain all your picks. This team just has so many needs, you gotta be really careful when and when not to spend those picks.
Housh is five years older than Williams.
Williams wasn't worth much more than a 2nd and a mid round pick. I actually like what I've seen from Curtis even though he's probably out for a few games. Will never happen but I'd grab Plax as soon as the Giants release him.
My point is, any seasoned vet who is a no. 1 reciever will be complemented very nicely by DJ.
Who knows, maybe after getting a year under his belt, he could be that pro-bowl receiver this offense has been crying out for. He's picked the system up and is starting in his first year. He's already better than Reggie Brown. It's the first time ever that Reid has picked a decent wide out worthy of his spot in the draft.
Quote from: SD_Eagle on December 11, 2008, 06:59:42 AM
Williams wasn't worth much more than a 2nd and a mid round pick. I actually like what I've seen from Curtis even though he's probably out for a few games. Will never happen but I'd grab Plax as soon as the Giants release him.
I'd want NOTHING to do with Burress. Zero. He got paid and completely fell apart. I'd sniff if it was a reclaimation deal at league minimum or something, but he's not a guy I'd pay any sort of money to. You've already seen what happens when you do.
Quote from: Zanshin on December 11, 2008, 08:00:01 AM
Quote from: SD_Eagle on December 11, 2008, 06:59:42 AM
Williams wasn't worth much more than a 2nd and a mid round pick. I actually like what I've seen from Curtis even though he's probably out for a few games. Will never happen but I'd grab Plax as soon as the Giants release him.
I'd want NOTHING to do with Burress. Zero. He got paid and completely fell apart. I'd sniff if it was a reclaimation deal at league minimum or something, but he's not a guy I'd pay any sort of money to. You've already seen what happens when you do.
You're right I'd hate to pay a guy that's 6'5 and caught the winning TD in the Superbowl and would require zero compenstation to sign. He can shoot me in the leg if he did that here.
Quote from: King Cole on December 11, 2008, 12:39:20 AM
I'm not sure I give up a first for Williams when guys like Houshmandzadeh are out there on the FA market after the season and you can get one and retain all your picks. This team just has so many needs, you gotta be really careful when and when not to spend those picks.
housh is 31 and doesnt possess game changing size or speed....he has very good hands and is a quality wr but he is not someone you give big money too as you have to wonder how many great years if any he has left
Quote from: SD_Eagle on December 11, 2008, 08:10:57 AM
Quote from: Zanshin on December 11, 2008, 08:00:01 AM
Quote from: SD_Eagle on December 11, 2008, 06:59:42 AM
Williams wasn't worth much more than a 2nd and a mid round pick. I actually like what I've seen from Curtis even though he's probably out for a few games. Will never happen but I'd grab Plax as soon as the Giants release him.
I'd want NOTHING to do with Burress. Zero. He got paid and completely fell apart. I'd sniff if it was a reclaimation deal at league minimum or something, but he's not a guy I'd pay any sort of money to. You've already seen what happens when you do.
You're right I'd hate to pay a guy that's 6'5 and caught the winning TD in the Superbowl and would require zero compenstation to sign. He can shoot me in the leg if he did that here.
He's not the missing piece that would get the Eagles to the Super Bowl. Hell, he barely played for the Giants this year. Freddie Mitchell and Greg Lewis caught Super Bowl TDs, too. Burress is talented, but a lazy headcase. I like right outside of NYC, so I'm around it more and probably have a different perspective on it.
you dont need to live "outside ny" to know everything there is about burress
its not an either or thing...he easily could be the piece that elevates the eagles to superbowl status AND hes also a headcase
id take him in a heartbeat if it was something along the lines of a small one year deal with big incentives
i think what doomed him this year was that he got caked off and didnt care anymore
...which is pretty much what I said.
with all these #1 receivers getting thrown around the board the Eagles might get--does Kevin Kolb make the Pro-bowl next year?
I think he does
Quote from: reese125 on December 11, 2008, 08:27:51 AM
with all these #1 receivers getting thrown around the board the Eagles might get--does Kevin Kolb make the Pro-bowl next year?
I think he does
AAHHHHHHH,HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!!!!!!
Please, it's too early in the morning........
Quote from: Zanshin on December 11, 2008, 08:17:23 AM
He's not the missing piece that would get the Eagles to the Super Bowl. Hell, he barely played for the Giants this year. Freddie Mitchell and Greg Lewis caught Super Bowl TDs, too. Burress is talented, but a lazy headcase. I like right outside of NYC, so I'm around it more and probably have a different perspective on it.
A WR trio of Plax, Jackson and Curtis with Westbrook in the backfield gets the Eagles closer to the SB. There's absolutely no guarantee but you have to admit he's an upgrade. Maybe he just needs another change of scenery, sort of like when he left the Steelers. I live in Philly, that doesn't mean I have a better perspective on the team than you or anyone else, so that point is moot. Mitchell and Lewis didn't get open and catch the winning TD in the SB, there is a big difference. All he'll cost is cap space, the Eagles are $18 million under the cap...so you have the option of spending that money on a 'headcase' and possibly making a run or staying status quo and maybe sneaking in as a WC. You know they'll be at least $10 million under once next season opens so the cap space he'd use is irrelevant.
He'll probably wind up a Raider so I'll stop now.
I said "different" persective. Not better. Tyree made the bigger SB catch in that super bowl...do you want him, too? I said Burress is a talented player that I'd sign if it didn't mean giving him guaranteed cash, and assuming I had a conversation that led me to believe he'd want to turn things around. And don't kid yourself, the Eagles have PLENTY of needs to eat up that cap space. WR isn't even on the top of that list.
I think what's lost in all of this is that Freddie Mitchell's punk ass never caught a TD in the Super Bowl.
Quote from: EagleFeva on December 11, 2008, 09:01:24 AM
I think what's lost in all of this is that Freddie Mitchell's punk ass never caught a TD in the Super Bowl.
I was just going along with it for arguments sake, LJ Smith caught one though.
so did kieth krepfle
TJ, Ocho Cinco, Burress, Roy Wiliams....
any of them...eagles need one of them bad. especially since these past 2 wins means there is no way Reid is fired or resigns.
Everyone realizes that this is bullshteinting for the sake of bullshteinting, right?
I don't know how me posting about DJ having a nice rookie year turned into another get whoever wideout debate, but oh well.
Anyway, if he can come on these last three games, he has an actual shot at 1,000 yds.
Quote from: ice grillin you on December 11, 2008, 08:12:23 AM
Quote from: King Cole on December 11, 2008, 12:39:20 AM
I'm not sure I give up a first for Williams when guys like Houshmandzadeh are out there on the FA market after the season and you can get one and retain all your picks. This team just has so many needs, you gotta be really careful when and when not to spend those picks.
housh is 31 and doesnt possess game changing size or speed....he has very good hands and is a quality wr but he is not someone you give big money too as you have to wonder how many great years if any he has left
I agree he isn't a game changer or a burner, but I think he has the qualities that the Eagles need at WR. A tall guy with great hands. He averages among the tops in the NFL in catches over the past 4 years or so. The Eagles already have guys with good enough speed in Curtis and Jackson. I want a guy who is going to go up and get a ball and you are sure he'll come down with it every time.
The guy I really want though is Boldin. How perfect would he be for the WCO? He just defines YAC with his strength. The dude is so hard to bring down. He also can hit the seams and go down field too. But I think there is no chance Arizona trades him after the year he is having. If I had to trade for him or Roy Williams I take Boldin and don't think twice about it.
Boldin also said he would never play for the Cardinals again after his contract is up.
They never stick to what they say but if he ever tried to force his way off the team in the offseason the Eagles better overpay for him.
Get Moulds.
GET PRICE!!!!
Get Boston!
Quote from: Zanshin on December 11, 2008, 06:17:53 PM
Get Moulds.
Wow... you killed me with that one. I remember making this in hopes that we would get him:
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Quote from: ice grillin you on December 11, 2008, 09:11:55 AM
so did kieth krepfle
there is no way you remember that! if so, i am quite impressed. only birds highlight in SB XV. i still hate the raiders.
Quote from: Don Ho on December 12, 2008, 02:18:30 AM
Quote from: ice grillin you on December 11, 2008, 09:11:55 AM
so did kieth krepfle
there is no way you remember that! if so, i am quite impressed. only birds highlight in SB XV. i still hate the raiders.
You're right...he read it in his Eagles Kidz! comic book.
Quote from: Cerevant on December 12, 2008, 10:15:34 AM
Quote from: Don Ho on December 12, 2008, 02:18:30 AM
Quote from: ice grillin you on December 11, 2008, 09:11:55 AM
so did kieth krepfle
there is no way you remember that! if so, i am quite impressed. only birds highlight in SB XV. i still hate the raiders.
You're right...he read it in his Eagles Kidz! comic book.
:-D
Did you all notice his little ball flip/comment towards Childress yesterday? Kinda made me cringe when I saw it.
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on January 05, 2009, 12:46:28 PM
Did you all notice his little ball flip/comment towards Childress yesterday? Kinda made me cringe when I saw it.
I thought for sure he was gonna get his ass kicked for that. I guess the Vikings don't like Childress enough.
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on January 05, 2009, 12:46:28 PM
Did you all notice his little ball flip/comment towards Childress yesterday? Kinda made me cringe when I saw it.
When they came back from commercial and showed the replay, I couldn't really hear the TV and I thought they flagged him for taunting or some shtein. I was about to start cussing his ass out until they went to the field and I saw that they hadn't been moved back.
he probably should have been flagged
it's some stupid shtein to pull
Whoops! Never post what you are thinking.
In his PG interview w DGunn he explained that he said "Y'all cant stop me in the return game" and then flipped the ball at Childress. When Gunn asked him if he knew he was insulting one of Reid closest friends he says "Aw man, I'm just tryin to do my job out there."
Then Gunn asked him whether the fur on the coat he was wearing was real to which he said "Come on man, you know I got a couple of G's on my back"
If he wasnt an Eagle, I would hate him.
i always wanted one of those
Quote from: Die-Hard on January 05, 2009, 01:12:59 PM
In his PG interview w DGunn he explained that he said "Y'all cant stop me in the return game" and then flipped the ball at Childress. When Gunn asked him if he knew he was insulting one of Reid closest friends he says "Aw man, I'm just tryin to do my job out there."
Then Gunn asked him whether the fur on the coat he was wearing was real to which he said "Come on man, you know I got a couple of G's on my back"
If he wasnt an Eagle, I would hate him.
FN
:-D
He better be careful with doing that to Coughlin though. I think Tom's a serial killer. Why? Because his eyes are beady and close together.
hes exactly what this team has needed since the mormon regime took over and is a god send
Quote from: stalker on January 05, 2009, 01:14:38 PM
Quote from: Die-Hard on January 05, 2009, 01:12:59 PM
In his PG interview w DGunn he explained that he said "Y'all cant stop me in the return game" and then flipped the ball at Childress. When Gunn asked him if he knew he was insulting one of Reid closest friends he says "Aw man, I'm just tryin to do my job out there."
Then Gunn asked him whether the fur on the coat he was wearing was real to which he said "Come on man, you know I got a couple of G's on my back"
If he wasnt an Eagle, I would hate him.
FN
?
Quote from: ice grillin you on January 05, 2009, 01:17:17 PM
hes exactly what this team has needed since the mormon regime took over and is a god send
I actually agree, but I hate guys like him....just shut up and play the game.
dont pay attention to his racist ramblings and he might go away cause you know the mods here wont ban him
stalker is a racist and it likely has something to do with that.
Funny cuz I had a feeling I knew what the acronym was...schmuck
Quote from: ice grillin you on January 05, 2009, 01:17:17 PM
hes exactly what this team has needed since the mormon regime took over and is a god send
I agree.
Quote from: Die-Hard on January 05, 2009, 01:18:32 PM
I actually agree, but I hate guys like him....just shut up and play the game.
I agree.
aren't you just an agreeable little douchebag
Everyone always tells me how agreeable I am. And agreeing is very douchey. So yes.
Quote from: Die-Hard on January 05, 2009, 01:19:56 PM
Funny cuz I had a feeling I knew what the acronym was...schmuck
Didn't even think of it that way but I guess so. I had a coach in college who rated guys like him as QN, FN, VFN in scouting reports. The N was negro. He was a black guy and I guess he thought it was funny. He didn't go around calling people stillupfront's momz and all that. It was so in my head, I just always say it.
And yes, he is a FN, Hester would be a VFN.
what is an FN?
Quote from: hbionic on January 05, 2009, 01:35:22 PM
what is an FN?
Fast Kneegrow
VFN is:
Very fast Kneegrow
Oh and he used it on white guys too. Just locker room talk. No one was injured by it.
Is it too much to ask that you kill yourself?
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on January 05, 2009, 01:41:44 PM
Is it too much to ask that you kill yourself?
Why?
Just relating a story. No one was injured in the making of these posts. Dick
Quote from: ice grillin you on January 05, 2009, 01:17:17 PM
hes exactly what this team has needed since the mormon regime took over and is a god send
tricky when God does not exist in IGYland
it's ok everybody, his coach was a racist too
Quote from: SunMo on January 05, 2009, 01:44:51 PM
it's ok everybody, his coach was a racist too
What's worse? a racist in words or in actions.
In all honesty, I have been using that term for so long, the etymology isn't necessarily in my head unless someone asks what it means. It's actually quite benign I probably say it 30 times every weekend. Not as a racist remark, but as a comment on a players speed/escapability.
nut
Quote from: stalker on January 05, 2009, 01:45:51 PM
Quote from: SunMo on January 05, 2009, 01:44:51 PM
it's ok everybody, his coach was a racist too
What's worse? a racist in words or in actions.
In all honesty, I have been using that term for so long, the etymology isn't necessarily in my head unless someone asks what it means. It's actually quite benign I probably say it 30 times every weekend. Not as a racist remark, but as a comment on a players speed/escapability.
Im having a real hard time believing you believe this..or maybe your dumbass does
either way just stop defending yourself if your racist or not
Quote from: ice grillin you on January 05, 2009, 01:18:47 PM
dont pay attention to his racist ramblings and he might go away cause you know the mods here wont ban him
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on January 05, 2009, 01:18:47 PM
stalker is a racist and it likely has something to do with that.
You know what, I've have been really thinking about this and examining in my head whether or not I am a racist and I am not. My interaction and exposure to black folks is very limited. Not due to any racism, it's just my particular world. Sometimes, I will be at a business meeting with a black person, and I certainly don't treat them differently than anyone else. If they have achieved a level of business where I am meeting with them, I assume they have the credentials. I have a black man who works for me, he's an excellent engineer, a nice man, has a nice family. I don't treat him differently they any of my other employees. I coach some sports and occasionally will have a black kid on my team, again, I am not calling him a spook or anything like that. Some were great athletes some were not so good. The good athlete gets the playing time. I don't care if they are blue. I have had a couple of kids on my team who were in the foster parent program. I helped with transportation. Bought them meals occasionally, stuff like that. Anyway, the reason I put up with all that is because they were tremendous athletes. I would not have put up with it if they stunk, does that make me a racist or just a fleshpop?
So you analyzed yourself and came out with a favorable diagnosis? How wonderfully surprising.
Quote from: rjs246 on January 05, 2009, 02:42:13 PM
So you analyzed yourself and came out with a favorable diagnosis? How wonderfully surprising.
:-D :-D :-D
Quote from: rjs246 on January 05, 2009, 02:42:13 PM
So you analyzed yourself and came out with a favorable diagnosis? How wonderfully surprising.
Ha, ha, ha I guess that's about right. No, the answer is; I have no idea if I am a racist or not. I don't have a hell of alot of exposure. The exposure I do have is fine.
if you have to ask if youre racist then you probably are
If you are damn sure you don't have to ask yourself, then you are probably are too.
So, we're all racists then?
Quote from: SunMo on January 05, 2009, 03:18:03 PM
So, we're all racists then?
No. Black people can't be racist. It's mathematically unpossible.
Quote from: Die-Hard on January 05, 2009, 01:12:59 PMIf he wasnt an Eagle, I would hate him.
I hate him moreso because he's an Eagle. It's mortifying to root for a stupid icehole.
Quote from: Diomedes on January 05, 2009, 03:36:35 PM
Quote from: Die-Hard on January 05, 2009, 01:12:59 PMIf he wasnt an Eagle, I would hate him.
I hate him moreso because he's an Eagle. It's mortifying to root for a stupid icehole.
Thank you. Well stated.
Unfunny, racist, douchebag clown.
I have no problem with what Jackson did. I thought it was hilarious because I hate Brad Childress so much. Dude's just a clueless creepy pedophile weirdo.
ok, so what if i once thought i might be a racist, but then jerked off thinking about a black girl...am i good or not?
What if I read SunMo's post and then jerked off while thinking about it? Does that make me black?
Only if your ice is grilling peoples...
Quote from: rjs246 on January 05, 2009, 05:27:10 PM
What if I read SunMo's post and then jerked off while thinking about it? Does that make me black?
It makes you Vince Young.
BGN?
CP
This thread is in a flaming nose dive.
ABORT! ABORT!
Quote from: Don Ho on January 05, 2009, 03:20:10 PM
Quote from: SunMo on January 05, 2009, 03:18:03 PM
So, we're all racists then?
Yes, we hate everyone.
"That's our Harry. He hates everyone. Jews, Heebs, stillupfronts, Chinks."
"How's he feel about Mexicans?"
"Ask him"
<pause>
"Especially Spics".
White. People.
(http://assets.sbnation.com/fan_shot_images/26594/sicover_011209_eagles.jpg)
Do people still read that magazine?
Do people still read magazines?
cursed
Quote from: Diomedes on January 07, 2009, 08:49:30 AM
Do people still read that magazine?
Do people still read magazines?
newspapers and magazines is all i read
philly mag is the best periodical in the country and of course entertainment
I love the Sporting News. They switched to a bi-weekly format and its even better now.
Quote"Everyone wants to talk about the Giants, they're the Super Bowl champs, they're so great...and they are still the Champs, but we're going to go in there and beat them."
Apparently the Giants posted this in the locker room and a lot of players were reading it.
Good for Pimp to talk it...now he has to have a good game. No more shtein like in Washington.
Shut the farg up rookie.
ahhh...the ever frightening, game changing newpaper clipping in the locker room bit
just back it up pre-celebration boy...I like it
ive waited for someone like pimp since buddy and the gg d....id rather pimp be a linebacker or a defender in general so he could go out and hurt someone but ill take this any day of the week...problem is mcnabb probably wont throw it to him as a punishment for being to cocky and also if pimp actually goes out and has a great game it takes the shine off donnie...might have to do it via punt return
Quote from: ice grillin you on January 09, 2009, 01:47:50 PM
might have to do it via punt return
Fine. And I hope there is an uncalled, relatively flagrant illegal block in the back to give Giants fans something more to bitch about.
yes, finally someone on this mormon lethargic team got the balls to talk
farg yes
Quote from: reese125 on January 09, 2009, 01:09:52 PM
ahhh...the ever frightening, game changing newpaper clipping in the locker room bit
I agree...everyone is so scared to say anything. You can either trash talk...or you can talk confidently about your abilities.
I wish he would have just said, "farg the Giants". That would have been awesome.
Quote from: hbionic on January 09, 2009, 02:16:11 PM
I wish he would have just said, "farg the Giants". That would have been awesome.
YES!
even better would have been farg new york
Quote from: ice grillin you on January 09, 2009, 02:17:25 PM
Quote from: hbionic on January 09, 2009, 02:16:11 PM
I wish he would have just said, "farg the Giants". That would have been awesome.
YES!
even better would have been farg new york
Why not take it to the next level? Something like, "9/11 rules!"
because it doesn't.
Quote from: ice grillin you on January 09, 2009, 01:47:50 PM
ive waited for someone like pimp since buddy and the gg d....id rather pimp be a linebacker or a defender in general so he could go out and hurt someone but ill take this any day of the week...problem is mcnabb probably wont throw it to him as a punishment for being to cocky and also if pimp actually goes out and has a great game it takes the shine off donnie...might have to do it via punt return
wouldnt desean having a great game in the passing game mean mcnabb has a great game?
are you seriously suggesting mcnabb ignores certain players because they are cocky? he was locked onto T.O. all the time.
btw isn't that Fred Ex's theory? that McNabb ignored him on purpose?
I never understood whawhy people make 9/11 jokes. Seriously, that shtein wasnt funny...at all.
Quote from: Magical_Retard on January 09, 2009, 02:56:38 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on January 09, 2009, 01:47:50 PM
ive waited for someone like pimp since buddy and the gg d....id rather pimp be a linebacker or a defender in general so he could go out and hurt someone but ill take this any day of the week...problem is mcnabb probably wont throw it to him as a punishment for being to cocky and also if pimp actually goes out and has a great game it takes the shine off donnie...might have to do it via punt return
wouldnt desean having a great game in the passing game mean mcnabb has a great game?
are you seriously suggesting mcnabb ignores certain players because they are cocky? he was locked onto T.O. all the time.
btw isn't that Fred Ex's theory? that McNabb ignored him on purpose?
remember the Bears game. McNabb is a woman at times
yeah i do after desean ran the wrong route. that was what for a half?
remember the game against the skins? did that stop him from going to desean since then? he may not trust or lose confidence in desean but then again desean is a rookie.
of all the theories about mcnabb this is the most absurd. he would force the ball to TO into double coverage so i doubt he is purposely going to ignore a open WR, his best WR, because he is worried he might lose the attention.
actually forget Fred Ex, thats T.O.'s theory.
if youre not going to throw to your best WR in a playoff game because he said your team is going to win, you have a lot more issues than previously spoke about and you should be beaten with a bar of soap come shower time
slow ya rolls...i was (half) joking when i said that...i dont think its actually gonna happen
Quote from: hbionic on January 09, 2009, 02:52:03 PM
because it doesn't.
Neither does New York.
Quote from: Die-Hard on January 09, 2009, 02:57:22 PM
I never understood whawhy people make 9/11 jokes. Seriously, that shtein wasnt funny...at all.
It is a shot at New York and every bit as appropriate as urinating on an opposing fan's seat or punching him in the face.
Quote from: FastFreddie on January 09, 2009, 03:25:09 PM
It is a shot at New York and every bit as appropriate as urinating on an opposing fan's seat or punching him in the face.
Because the only Americans affected were New Yorkers?
Sorry, I got to go with Die-Hard on this one.
people joke about everything, who farging cares
Whatever.
I remember when Freddie Mitchell called the Pats DBs and spefically Rodney Harrison out before the SB...that didn't end well
DeSean Jackson can play, though.
He can't play QB
No, that was painful.
Quote from: FastFreddie on January 09, 2009, 03:25:09 PM
Quote from: hbionic on January 09, 2009, 02:52:03 PM
because it doesn't.
Neither does New York.
Quote from: Die-Hard on January 09, 2009, 02:57:22 PM
I never understood why people make 9/11 jokes. Seriously, that shtein wasnt funny...at all.
It is a shot at New York and every bit as appropriate as urinating on an opposing fan's seat or punching him in the face.
That may be the dumbest thing I have ever read here. I'll assume you're just drunk on a Friday afternoon and not that stupid.
Quote from: Die-Hard on January 09, 2009, 02:57:22 PM
I never understood whawhy people make 9/11 jokes. Seriously, that shtein wasnt funny...at all.
I dont mind them at all....I think 9-11 was just as funny as any bombing in the history of the world..and there have been some funny ones. One of my favorites was Hiroshima.
Quote from: hbionic on January 09, 2009, 04:12:10 PM
Quote from: Die-Hard on January 09, 2009, 02:57:22 PM
I never understood whawhy people make 9/11 jokes. Seriously, that shtein wasnt funny...at all.
I dont mind them at all....I think 9-11 was just as funny as any bombing in the history of the world..and there have been some funny ones. One of my favorites was Hiroshima.
BINGO
if theres hiroshama and holocaust jokes and ethnic and racial jokes then there certainly can be 9-11 jokes...the osama favorite football team one is especially funny
would you make them on 9-15-01...no....but we are well past the time when they can be made re: 9/11
Quote from: ice grillin you on January 09, 2009, 04:38:51 PM
we are well past the time when they can be made re: 9/11
Im sure the victims families feel the same way
pretty sure you wouldnt joke about it front of them
pretty sure you wouldn't joke about the holocaust to 70 year old jews either...just because something upsets one group doesn't mean it's off limits for everybody
Quote from: ice grillin you on January 09, 2009, 01:47:50 PM
ive waited for someone like pimp since buddy and the gg d....id rather pimp be a linebacker or a defender in general so he could go out and hurt someone but ill take this any day of the week...problem is mcnabb probably wont throw it to him as a punishment for being to cocky and also if pimp actually goes out and has a great game it takes the shine off donnie...might have to do it via punt return
Donovan did not "punish" him for the outburst in the Skins game when he threw his arms up a few times when he beat his guy and did notget the ball.
Stop with that. McNabb wants to win and he will go to Jackson if he's open.
I think he will be and I think he is gonna smoke Webster.
shut up, jason
lets get back to 9/11 jokes
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DeSean isn't full of fire, he's full of himself. Trash talking is assinine, I'll never ever like a player who talks shtein. Show some goddamn respect for your opponents and your teamates and for the game.
you had to have become an eagle fan during the andy reid era
Dawkins never ever says shtein like that when he is interviewed. You can be humble and confident and intimidating at the same time.
Quote from: ice grillin you on January 09, 2009, 05:16:02 PM
you had to have become an eagle fan during the andy reid era
Now you've really hurt my feelings. This is the part where I will proceed to explain how much I loved Buddy Ryan as a kid to prove to you that I am a true fan like you.
Or not.
Big mouth punks like DeSean are a huge problem with sports, from middle school through the pros. That so many fans, players, coaches, and media types eat it up kills me.
its all about what you bring on sundays not what you do any other time. if the kid brings it every week i have no problems with him talking shtein. but he doesn't, so therefore he can shut the hell up.
i really could care less about your fandom but if you hate players talking shtein no way could you have become a fan of the eagles when they had a coach who talked shtein and a team full of the shteintest talking mother fargers ever...in fact you had to have despised the eagles back then
I hate all braggarts, whether they bring it or not.
the diff. is IGY, they backed it up, talked hard, played hard. this guy brings in once every other week, if that.
I love coaches talking shtein because what the hell else are they supposed to do? They are dull dull human beings who's only purpose in life is to motivate the players on my favorite team.
Players who are squawkers more often than not are:
1. Unhinged whackjobs with talent and no sense of team.
2. Not talented enough to back it up.
There are exceptions, but by and large, the biggest talkers fall into these categories.
Quote from: ice grillin you on January 09, 2009, 05:24:28 PM
i really could care less about your fandom but if you hate players talking shtein no way could you have become a fan of the eagles when they had a coach who talked shtein and a team full of the shteintest talking mother fargers ever...in fact you had to have despised the eagles back then
man, it's like you're looking into my soul. in fact, I became an Eagles fan in 2004 and it's been nothing but great since
its actually the opposite....the exceptions are the freddie mitchells...the norm is the muhammed alis deion sanders michael jordans ray lewis michael irvins ect...
for the most part athletes know when to talk shtein and most dont do it if they suck
this is nothing against the emmitt smiths and ladainians who are great and dont talk because the world needs them as well
it's one thing for a boxer to talk shtein...it's not a team sport
in a team sport, people like DeSean ought to be shunned
ill give you desean not having accomplished enough to talk like he is but one of the foundations of competition is shtein talking...it has nothing to do with the kind of sport it has to do with every sport...hell the american and austrilian swimmers were shtein talking
holy christ people...the guy said his team was going to win. he didnt say he never heard of Justin Tuck
I like some shtein talking.
I like confident and cocky.
i liked andre waters
i like turtles.
Quote from: SunMo on January 09, 2009, 04:57:26 PM
pretty sure you wouldn't joke about the holocaust to 70 year old jews either...just because something upsets one group doesn't mean it's off limits for everybody
So we can use any racial slur we want, as long as that race isn't in the room? Good to know.
Can we just agree to never anything remotely off color. I'm afraid that someone somewhere will be offended and I couldn't live with that kind of remorse.
you wouldnt make a crude jewish joke in a room full of strangers but you would in front of jewish friends who you knew wouldnt be offended...is it really necessary to have to explain this kind of stuff...dont we all learn this when we are five?
A few things...
First, I don't give a rat's hairy ass what DeSean Jackson says. His jawing doesn't affect me or my life in the least. All I care about as a fan is he catches the farging ball when it's thrown or kicked to him and then does something with it afterward. Anyone here who suggests they care what he says either needs a mental enema or a bullet through the eye socket.
Second - I also don't give a shtein if people make 9/11 jokes or jokes about any other so-called taboo subject. If you don't have a sense of humor about horrific topics like those, then you're missing the point about just how absurd this life really is. NOTHING should be taboo. If you think joking about some topic is "inappropriate" then you should do what I suggested in the first paragraph.
Finally - farg all of you whining flags. There's a game on Sunday. Fixate on that and stop your pathetic bickering.
The end.
Can we LOL at Steve Irwin yet?
was he jewish?
Not a lot of Jewish folks in Australia.
Lousy heeb.
trying really hard not to be "goes too far guy"
That's not cool, man.
Quote from: SunMo on January 09, 2009, 07:30:36 PM
trying really hard not to be "goes too far guy"
We already have that guy. We call him stalker now.
yeah but he's not dropping jokes, he's baring his soul
Quote from: SunMo on January 09, 2009, 07:30:36 PM
trying really hard not to be "goes too far guy"
:-D
His catch was the most excited I've been during a sports game since Game 5. Only, it wasn't after my wife and kid were asleep, so I yelled a lot louder. Tough call.
Here's to a bright future for this guy, whether G_F likes it or not.
yeah, he has big things ahead of him as long as he & cobb develop some sort of chemistry.
Kolb is trash and will never be a viable starter in the NFL.
Quote from: FastFreddie on January 18, 2009, 06:39:41 PM
Here's to a bright future for this guy, whether G_F likes it or not.
I'm very glad he's on this team. He's been a complete player from his very first snap, and there's not much more you can ask from a player. That not much more is "stop being stupid, stupid" and he's done that. Go Jackson.
Also, I nearly dislocated my dad's elbow high fiving him on that touchdown catch.
Time for a haircut Samson.
Quote from: FastFreddie on January 18, 2009, 06:51:05 PM
Kolb is trash and will never be a viable starter in the NFL.
Truth.
Quote from: FastFreddie on January 18, 2009, 06:39:41 PM
His catch was the most excited I've been during a sports game since Game 5. Only, it wasn't after my wife and kid were asleep, so I yelled a lot louder. Tough call.
Here's to a bright future for this guy, whether G_F likes it or not.
Holy crap, I went balistic. I ran to the front door and screamed my head off. Than I looked at the clock and saw there was still a boat load of time left.
Jackson forced for turnovers than the defense yesterday.
totally redeemed himself yesterday with that effort on the INT. caught that huge TD then. this kid can stay as long as he wants. we just need a legit number one now. im fine with DJack being number 2. Avant number 3. Curtis can compete for a spot.
Reggie, Glewis and Baskett are all dead to me
Curtis will do more than compete for a spot. He is a good complimentary guy to have, but obviously not the bell cow.
TJ, Desean, Curtis, and Avant.
With that your set.
I'd rather have Antonio Bryant than TJ.
Quote from: mussa on January 19, 2009, 10:33:48 AM
totally redeemed himself yesterday with that effort on the INT. caught that huge TD then. this kid can stay as long as he wants. we just need a legit number one now. im fine with DJack being number 2. Avant number 3. Curtis can compete for a spot.
Reggie, Glewis and Baskett are all dead to me
lol @ redeemed himself
redeemed himself from what?
Spiking the ball at the one during the first Cowboys game. What else could it be?
didn't see it mentioned but his dad died a couple of weeks ago (pancreatic cancer)
I thought Jerry Rice was his dad.
i didn't realize black athletes had dads.
just grandma's
The black dad appears when the player gets paid and not until.
They'll only farg up the training before then.
DeSean Jackson and Jeremy Maclin have become very good friends since the Eagles picked Maclin in the first round of the draft in April. Jackson, a second-round pick a year earlier, admitted yesterday his first impression wasn't quite as positive.
"Not taking anything away from Jeremy, but when they made that pick, I really didn't understand that," Jackson said after this morning's practice at Lehigh. "But it is what it is. I'm putting in the work to be that No. 1 receiver."
Jackson caught 62 passes last year and was an all-rookie pick, but his goals are far higher this year.
"I'm honestly trying to double that," Jackson said Thursday. "Last year was a good year for me to get my feet wet and get a feel for what the NFL is all about. I went through some ups and downs, some good times and bad times. This year? I can be tons, tons, tons better. ... I want to be one of the best wide receivers in the NFL."
Jackson looks like he already is tons better than last year. He's having a tremendous training camp, and his 1-on-1 battles with Pro Bowl cornerback have become legendary.
"He's good," Samuel said the other day. "I'm great."
Maybe not. Jackson has been beating Samuel regularly. They remain close friends, but their trash talking and back-and-forth during practice is great to watch.
"I'm not keeping score," Jackson said with a laugh. "But if he's great, I must be great, too."
He has been so far.
"I didn't know he'd be able to make such big strides since he was so good last year," quarterback Kevin Kolb said. "But he has. It's just unreal how much he's improved. You knew he had the talent, you could see that. But he's just been unbelievable. He's unstoppable right now."
How would Kolb evaluate his own abilities?
Quote from: QB Eagles on August 06, 2009, 09:24:44 PM
How would Kolb evaluate his own abilities?
He's stoppable.
Pimp has been unbelievable from all accounts so far this year, so i fully expect a torn acl in the preseason
Quote from: Seabiscuit36 on August 06, 2009, 09:44:14 PM
Pimp has been unbelievable from all accounts so far this year, so i fully expect a torn acl in the preseason
I feel bad thinking that your scenario isn't that far fetched, when thinking about the Eagles.
All I Do is Sit.
Get it?
Bahahahaha...
while watching pimp at bethlehem go in and out of turns with the effortlessness of a gazelle i started thinking about how its not going to be long before mike quick isnt the best eagle wr of all time
then i started to think about how epically bad the wr's in the nfc east are right now and that pimp is currently the best in the division
the things you think about when watching an nfl practice drunk off your ass
I'm still laughing that Washington took Devin Thomas and Fred Davis above pimp. They setup perfectly to get him, and instead did their normal draft moves, i thought for sure they were going to take Desean, and was angry as hell when the eagles got Laws over pimp
FWIW, word out of Skins camp is that Devin Thomas is really playing well right now. They aren't talking about him as they do DeSean right now, but it doesn't sound like he's an outright bust. Fred Davis is a train wreck who can't hold off UFA.
yeah im not sold. let the kid perform like this in real time game situations, which he did show signs last year and did have an impressive rookie season. don't get me wrong, i think the kids got a bright future, just hope a guy that small can stay healthy
Quote from: mussa on August 07, 2009, 10:43:13 AM
let the kid perform like this in real time game situations, which he did show signs last year and did have an impressive rookie season.
say wha?
lol 62 receptions, 900+ yards, showed signs.....
He's a stud, and like i said on draft day could be a shiftier Steve Smith. Size is his issue, but he generally knows how to avoid a hit, and isnt afraid to take a hit to make a play. Sure he had 2 dumb plays, but i'll take the other 60 plays
I think what mussa is saying is that there is a chance he could show a glimmer of his upside which could have a high ceiling towards his bubble. Which is a hard sell in this economy.
I'd just like to talk more about his bubble, thanks.
I'm a wordsmith, what can I say?
I'm just not sold on how well people say he is doing in "training camp". Until I see how much he's improved on game day, I'm not going to get myself all worked up about it.
Quote from: mussa on August 07, 2009, 11:19:39 AM
I'm a wordsmith, what can I say?
I'm just not sold on how well people say he is doing in "training camp". Until I see how much he's improved on game day, I'm not going to get myself all worked up about it.
Were you in a coma for 2009, or do you think that every player has to be totally re-evaluated every year?
players definitely never improve after their rookie years
He's the next Kerry Colbert. Bet.
Quote from: methdeez on August 07, 2009, 11:26:20 AM
Quote from: mussa on August 07, 2009, 11:19:39 AM
I'm a wordsmith, what can I say?
I'm just not sold on how well people say he is doing in "training camp". Until I see how much he's improved on game day, I'm not going to get myself all worked up about it.
Were you in a coma for 2009, or do you think that every player has to be totally re-evaluated every year?
Get excited all you want, I was speaking for myself.
Quote from: reese125 on August 06, 2009, 09:20:08 PM
DeSean Jackson and Jeremy Maclin have become very good friends since the Eagles picked Maclin in the first round of the draft in April.
Let's hope Jacksons kind of stupid isn't contagious
Stupid is always contagious.
didn't asante pull a djack in a int return for TD later last year? i think it was a joke more or less. now they are rivals on TC field! ewwwww its a spads moment!
It wasn't a joke. If I recall correctly, Asante's return wasn't a TD and the ball was down at the 1. Somehow the Eagles still scored a TD instead of a FG
No, I think Asante realized what he did at the moment and bent back down to pick the ball up.
But I forget.
Quote from: Munson on August 07, 2009, 05:15:34 PM
No, I think Asante realized what he did at the moment and bent back down to pick the ball up.
But I forget.
i think this is close(r) to what actually happened.
Regardless, both plays are historical in the context of stupidity, beating out Leon Lett and Jim Marshall
Ha. No.
I blame Andy, of course. How do you not beat this error out of your players. It shouldn't happen once, but certainly never twice.
Quote from: Rome on August 07, 2009, 06:40:42 PM
Ha. No.
say word
it amazing how many eagle fans love to hate pimp
I don't hate the guy at all. He's an awesome receiver.
Maybe his fargtardedness doesn't beat out Marshall and Lett, but it certainly rivals it. If you disagree with that, which you undoubtedly do, you have to admit it's one the most stupid things.
Gus Frerotte head-butts concrete wall. Excellent taterskins moment.
The solemn looks and tut-tutting around here from insufferable Cal Bear fans that DJ let-up and "took his foot off the gas" after Cal was eliminated from any meaningful Bowl contention was a bit of a flag to me on draft day - more than the other stuff. But he seems fully intent on proving those idiots wrong.
I just disagree that Jackson's flub is historical in context. Wrong Way Marshall... that's historical. It's still talked about almost 40 years later. Lett It Be... still talked about. Until someone mentioned Jackson's goof I hadn't even thought about it since last year.
romey be smart
Asante's INT return against the Browns on MNF was called a TD after he dropped the ball at the 1, so him picking it back up had nothing to do with the call on the field. As far as Jackson, Romey is right...its all about historical context. The play didnt even happen a year ago and still, the only people who still talk about it are Eagles fans.
And one more thing about Jackson...we all wanted a marquee receiver for the longest on this team. It finally looks like the team got one and all some of you want to talk about is one stupid play he made in his 6th quarter of professional football - it's ridiculous. I could care less about that play or his attitude; the guy excites me. Everytime I saw Donovan throw deep his way last year, I was thinking TD. Aside from Owens, this fanbase cant say that about a WR since Quick.
In summary, Desean > You.
He excites you, huh?
That's hott.
He and BM.
I wasn't on here much yesterday, so when I logged on here this morning and saw new posts in this thread... I automatically thought the worst and figured Pimp got injured. To my pleasant surprise, it was only a few idiots talking about a play of Pimp's that nobody has any business caring about anymore. I got off to do some work and when I log back in, I hit the main site and what do I see?
"WR DeSean Jackson hyperextended his knee during Saturday's morning workout..."
farg... you... guys.
EMB is already going insane over it..
jackson dropping the ball before crossing the goal line is one the dumbest things i've ever seen on a football field. even dumber than leon lett on turkey day vs miami. why? because holding on to the ball until you actually reach the endzone is pee wee league type shtein. it's football 101. lett on the other hand, probably got caught up in the heat of the moment and lost track of the situation. it was dumb as farg, but when you're out on the field i guarantee at least half of us would do the same thing in that situation.
the only reason that pimp's doesn't get the notoriety of some of the other dumb plays is because ultimately, it didn't cost the eagles the game (even though they still lost). had they not been able to score from inside the 1 yd line or had westbrook gotten hurt diving in for the td, then it would be a completely different story.
Quote from: Sgt PSN on August 08, 2009, 11:20:21 AM
the only reason that pimp's doesn't get the notoriety of some of the other dumb plays is because ultimately, it didn't cost the eagles the game (even though they still lost). had they not been able to score from inside the 1 yd line or had westbrook gotten hurt diving in for the td, then it would be a completely different story.
Right... If PacMan or somebody fell on that ball, then Pimp would (and should) still be getting ripped by everyone and their mommas every time his name is mentioned. But they didn't... and the Eagles scored on the very next play, so who gives a shtein??
If people can hang on that one play and call him dumb or stupid because of that one bad play, then I can turn around and call FredEx a great receiver because of a couple big plays he made while he was here.
Im pretty sure Desean got caught up in the moment too. It was what should have been his first NFL TD, on MNF, in Texas Stadium. Regardless, its irrelevant.
If that stupid play is the only complaint some of you people have about him, I'd call his rookie season an epic win.
Quote from: EagleFeva on August 08, 2009, 11:28:29 AM
Right... If PacMan or somebody fell on that ball, then Pimp would (and should) still be getting ripped by everyone and their mommas every time his name is mentioned.
Huge LOL
i dont think he's a dumb player. i just think he had a monumentally dumb moment. lucky for him, it likely won't stick with him for the rest of his career because it wasn't a game/season altering mistake.
Quote from: Die-Hard on August 08, 2009, 11:31:26 AM
If that stupid play is the only complaint some of you people have about him, I'd call his rookie season an epic win.
62 catches for 912 yds. yeah, i'd say so.
Apparently he's had other dumb moments too. I remember Pat Kirwin saying how he had just talked to Westbrook about DJax and Westbrook told the story of how he recently found DJs playbook left in the cafeteria - which for AR apparently is like being in the military and leaving your gun laying around some civilian area.
36 saw there were DJ's 4 tickets for the next game in the book so he kept it and didn't tell Jackson until a couple of days before the game to make him sweat a bit. He implied the vets were trying to bring him up right and hopefully keep him from becoming another WR prima dona.
how anyone in a sane mind can compare leon lett to what pimp did is beyond me...theres literally no comparison
pimp thought he was in the end zone and dropped the ball...lett with plenty of time to think about it ran 20 yards and inexplicably pounced on a ball he didnt need to touch
if pimp were white im sure it be different
just ask wes welker
you said it i didnt
cocky black guys got no place in this world
Because Jeremy Shockey was so liked, right?
I couldn't pick Wes Welker out of a lineup if you put him up there with Wes Craven and Wesley Snipes.
being a douchebag trancends race
So does stupid, amazingly enough.
joe namath might have been the dumbest person to ever play football
Dumber than Bradshaw?
good point
wes welker is gritty. he tries hard. he cares a lot. gives a great effort. is of a superior race.
Elf?
Not quite. He's too short. Let's go half elf.
Late to the party here....
But did Mussa really say he wanted Jackson to prove himself more and to do it in real game time situations?!?!?!
Jackson did more last year than anyone had a right to expect especially with the tub of goo at the switch.
Agreed, but he still only scored 2 TDs (if you give him the one he dropped at the goalline).
It'd be nice if the receivers scored more, particularly in the redzone.
thats why they got HOF ingram
ACL Ingram to you.
People.....the Dumbest Player in the NFL has and will continue to be for all time a former taterskin. I give you........Dexter Manley.
(http://www.apa.org/ppo/images/dexter.jpg)
I broke down and started crying ... how did I get through school when I couldn't read? (http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m1077/is_n12_v44/ai_8010811/)
Jeremy Shockey rates pretty fargin' highly in my list of dumb players, especially because his stupidity regularly features in his gametime performance.
^You gotta' good point there. Shockey is an idiot and shows it on the field. One thing you could say about Manley, he was the shtein on the field. He killed qb's. He was like a freight train, and kept it going for every bit of the 4 quarters.
you cant mention stupidity and taterskins without the obligatory....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MdWK-aam0Jo
No matter how many times this loops, it never stops being funny.
(http://4gifs.com/gallery/d/124810-1/Touchdown_fail.gif)
he totally travelled.
Hot dogs I can handle when the score td's. Hot dogs that are stupid enough to take a sure td and blow it like a crack whore blowing Bill Clinton make me wonder.
But, lets just hope like a holy rollin' christian hoping for the second coming that it don't happen again.
somebodys pool league was last night
How about dudes moves on that reverse lastnight?
no doubt. you can see how more relaxed this year he is.
no happy feet on that, no jukes all over the place...just a steady, effortless run around the edge
He still managed to peg the ball at a few players' feet. Which was good to see.
Pegged their feet, one-hopped a couple in, and one or two sailing over players' heads.
Why are you guys talking about McNabb in the Jackson thread when nothing was even mentioned about McNabb? I'm not acting as the thread police; just pointing out how horrible you are at the internet
Mostly because I'm an idiot who was feeling lazy about cutting my post out of this thread and putting it in the McNabb thread.
QuoteDeSean Jackson Unhurt After Car Accident
CSNPhilly.com
Eagles wide receiver DeSean Jackson was involved in a one-car accident on Friday.
Jackson was driving a 2008 BMW on I-295 in New Jersey when he drifted off the road, striking a curb and guard rail before spinning around in his own lane. He was wearing his seatbelt and was unhurt during the accident.
Police said there were no signs of drug or alcohol use involved. Jackson was issued a summons for careless driving.
Jackson will be able to play on Sunday against the Giants.
I wonder if Lurie, Banner and Reid will look to lock Jackson down to a long term contract this offseason.
He was showboating, obviously.
Quote from: Rome on October 31, 2009, 08:51:38 PM
He was showboating, obviously.
I was going to say that same thing LOL
Did he manage to get the car up on two wheels before hitting the guard rail?
It's not good for Pimp's image to be riding around without a female or three in the car with him.
(http://d.yimg.com/a/p/ap/20091101/capt.b602510a590c4bba9e98da537955c3ef.giants_eagles_football_pack103.jpg)
awesome :-D
hahahahahahah :-D
DOes anyone have the vid/gif?
The pimp is somethin' special. I can't remember a reciever making such an impact so early on this team.
Quote from: shorebird on November 01, 2009, 06:26:59 PM
The pimp is somethin' special. I can't remember a reciever making such an impact so early on this team.
shtein man, modify that before IGY sees it!! It's "Pimp" not "the Pimp" act like ya know dook! ;)
Quote from: phillymic2000 on November 01, 2009, 06:33:22 PM
Quote from: shorebird on November 01, 2009, 06:26:59 PM
The pimp is somethin' special. I can't remember a reciever making such an impact so early on this team.
shtein man, modify that before IGY sees it!! It's "Pimp" not "the Pimp" act like ya know dook! ;)
Thats my problem, I always try to
act like I know, but never really do.
Seriously though, I love this kid. Yeah, he likes to hot dog it up, but his attitude seems great. Carefree and happy go lucky type of guy. And, if he ain't the fastest man in the NFL, he's damn shore one of 'em.
Quote from: shorebird on November 01, 2009, 06:41:45 PM
Quote from: phillymic2000 on November 01, 2009, 06:33:22 PM
Quote from: shorebird on November 01, 2009, 06:26:59 PM
The pimp is somethin' special. I can't remember a reciever making such an impact so early on this team.
shtein man, modify that before IGY sees it!! It's "Pimp" not "the Pimp" act like ya know dook! ;)
Thats my problem, I always try to act like I know, but never really do.
Seriously though, I love this kid. Yeah, he likes to hot dog it up, but his attitude seems great. Carefree and happy go lucky type of guy. And, if he ain't the fastest man in the NFL, he's damn shore one of 'em.
It's all good man, not all of us can be "down" like some on this board :-D
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on November 01, 2009, 06:15:07 PM
(http://d.yimg.com/a/p/ap/20091101/capt.b602510a590c4bba9e98da537955c3ef.giants_eagles_football_pack103.jpg)
awesome :-D
bwahahaha...
best non qb in the nfl
he's off the charts good, Harvin could be right with him
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on November 01, 2009, 06:15:07 PM
(http://d.yimg.com/a/p/ap/20091101/capt.b602510a590c4bba9e98da537955c3ef.giants_eagles_football_pack103.jpg)
awesome :-D
classic
Quote from: Seabiscuit36 on November 01, 2009, 08:40:34 PM
he's off the charts good, Harvin could be right with him
harvin was farging sick today.
Quote from: shorebird on November 01, 2009, 06:41:45 PM
Seriously though, I love this kid. Yeah, he likes to hot dog it up, but his attitude seems great. Carefree and happy go lucky type of guy. And, if he ain't the fastest man in the NFL, he's damn shore one of 'em.
I'm with you, shorebird. Just amazing to watch - was at the game today, and that TD reception coming toward us was a thing of beauty. 8)
Quote from: Fan_Since_64 on November 01, 2009, 09:05:07 PM
Quote from: shorebird on November 01, 2009, 06:41:45 PM
Seriously though, I love this kid. Yeah, he likes to hot dog it up, but his attitude seems great. Carefree and happy go lucky type of guy. And, if he ain't the fastest man in the NFL, he's damn shore one of 'em.
I'm with you, shorebird. Just amazing to watch - was at the game today, and that TD reception coming toward us was a thing of beauty. 8)
You have to admit the Eagles have more speed now than I can remember in my 20+ years of being an Eagles fan.
Quote from: 4and26 on November 01, 2009, 09:16:00 PM
Quote from: Fan_Since_64 on November 01, 2009, 09:05:07 PM
Quote from: shorebird on November 01, 2009, 06:41:45 PM
Seriously though, I love this kid. Yeah, he likes to hot dog it up, but his attitude seems great. Carefree and happy go lucky type of guy. And, if he ain't the fastest man in the NFL, he's damn shore one of 'em.
I'm with you, shorebird. Just amazing to watch - was at the game today, and that TD reception coming toward us was a thing of beauty. 8)
You have to admit the Eagles have more speed now than I can remember in my 20+ years of being an Eagles fan.
The only other year I can think of with this much speed was the year WE had Charles Johnson and Torrance Small.
lmao. farging moron. i heart you like <------------------------this--------------------------> much though.
Quote from: Seabiscuit36 on November 01, 2009, 08:40:34 PM
he's off the charts good, Harvin could be right with him
At this point its Pimp hands down, but I don't think Harvin is too far off. It is unreal how good this dude is, he may be the most explosive player that I have ever watched.
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on November 01, 2009, 06:15:07 PM
(http://d.yimg.com/a/p/ap/20091101/capt.b602510a590c4bba9e98da537955c3ef.giants_eagles_football_pack103.jpg)
awesome :-D
Best photo of the Reid era. The look on Capn' Andy is priceless...especially when all he wanted was a "high-five" and pimp said "no-way" you are getting the hip shot!! Is there another player on the roster at any time that could have gotten away with that? (Maybe TO right before the implosion)
Reno could get away with it with Reid and him being father & son and all.
I luv me sum Desean. When he did tht yesterday I couldn't stop laughing
Did anybody else notice that one or the refs fell down on the sideline during his touchdown play?
pimp also had an excellent block on the opening screen pass to shady
is there anything he cant do?
Drive.
lol
Quote from: ice grillin you on November 02, 2009, 03:57:44 PM
pimp also had an excellent block on the opening screen pass to shady
is there anything he cant do?
I've been noticing that in recent games too (though I'm sure he's always done it). It's impressive to see a guy that small be able to block like he does
Quote from: Tomahawk on November 03, 2009, 02:40:10 AM
Quote from: ice grillin you on November 02, 2009, 03:57:44 PM
pimp also had an excellent block on the opening screen pass to shady
is there anything he cant do?
I've been noticing that in recent games too (though I'm sure he's always done it). It's impressive to see a guy that small be able to block like he does
it is...and even when he doesnt always make the best block he is always taking the lead and making the effort which is something that you cant say about a lot of wr's...especially young superstars
Maclin has really got the downfield blocking down also. Nice to see
when he doesnt trip and fall on his face
Quote from: ice grillin you on November 03, 2009, 09:08:04 AM
when he doesnt trip and fall on his face
That play was hilarious, but at least he was giving a good effort.
exactly, good blocking, bad feets.
damn i missed that
Amazing to read an article about an Eagles WR draft pick LOL
http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/story/12467580
Quote from: PhillyGirl on November 04, 2009, 03:48:12 PM
Amazing to read an article about an Eagles WR draft pick LOL
http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/story/12467580
i've read plenty of articles about wr drafted by the eagles. i just haven't read any good/non-bashing ones.
Quote from: PhillyGirl on November 04, 2009, 03:48:12 PM
Amazing to read an article about an Eagles WR draft pick LOL
http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/story/12467580
He doesn't even feel like he's a receiver. I've come to expect something big everytime he touches the ball.
Quote from: hbionic on November 04, 2009, 04:19:54 PM
He doesn't even feel like he's a receiver. I've come to expect something big everytime he touches the ball.
yeah my penis
Gay.
definitely gay. but is it enjoyable. soft hands and all.
my prediction this week for his 50+ yard touchdown is a deep post or a seam route btwn the safeties
for two straight games they have run a deep corner out of a fake post...do the opposite this week and i think you can catch the safety working to close to the sideline trying to get to the corner route that he thinks is coming
it still bothers me they picked Trevor Laws over pimp, and i would be furious had they not gotten him.
Quote from: Seabiscuit36 on November 05, 2009, 09:31:29 AM
it still bothers me they picked Trevor Laws over pimp, and i would be furious had they not gotten him.
Who cares? They have him, so it really doesn't matter.
IGY it is funny you say that because when he made that play last week my buddy was saying "watch Desean is going to score right here on a big play!" Not really too bold of a prediction though, he does it often.
Quote from: ice grillin you on November 05, 2009, 09:19:30 AM
my prediction this week for his 50+ yard touchdown is a deep post or a seam route btwn the safeties
for two straight games they have run a deep corner out of a fake post...do the opposite this week and i think you can catch the safety working to close to the sideline trying to get to the corner route that he thinks is coming
Giants saftey bit on the post move hard and came out looking real bad. He is just so quick. I heard someone on the radio say that he has run a 4.25 40. True?
he ran a +4.3 at the combine....ive heard many times he ran a 4.2 somewhere but it was far from official and i kinda question it altho i wouldnt put it past him...i mean people have claimed darren mcfadden ran in the 4.2's which is complete bullshtein...regardless he is fast as shtein but his bigger strength is the incredibly fluidity in his hips
and he floats. He had a pretty bad combine from what i remember from what they were expecting, but Jerry Rice clearly did a great job with him.
his combine was deemed bad because he came in like two or three inches shorter than his height that cal listed him at and if i remember correctly like 10 pounds lighter
He ran a 4.3 something at the combine. It was Gruden who said he saw him run a 4.25 at his pro-day. He was also rumored to have a run a sub 4.3 while at Cal.
Quote from: ice grillin you on November 05, 2009, 10:17:37 AM
regardless he is fast as shtein but his bigger strength is the incredibly fluidity in his hips
That's really what makes him so special. The guy could get separation from a DB in a phone booth. What's he gets that separation, I don't know there is a DB in the league who can recover the gap against him. Just sick.
the crazy part was he was a decent route runner in college, but that time with Rice really made a huge difference from what i saw in Cal games. i'm still LOL at Devin Thomas and Jerome Simpson over Pimp
Quote from: Seabiscuit36 on November 05, 2009, 10:31:20 AM
the crazy part was he was a decent route runner in college, but that time with Rice really made a huge difference from what i saw in Cal games. i'm still LOL at Devin Thomas and Jerome Simpson over Pimp
Its LOL for any WR that was drafted ahead of him.
Finally, we are the ones LOLing...and not being LOLed at.
lol
Quote from: Drunkmasterflex on November 03, 2009, 11:59:17 AM
Quote from: ice grillin you on November 03, 2009, 09:08:04 AM
when he doesnt trip and fall on his face
That play was hilarious, but at least he was giving a good effort.
After seeing the replay of the TD, I think Maclin fell because Shady tripped him
Quote from: Drunkmasterflex on November 05, 2009, 11:47:23 AM
Quote from: Seabiscuit36 on November 05, 2009, 10:31:20 AM
the crazy part was he was a decent route runner in college, but that time with Rice really made a huge difference from what i saw in Cal games. i'm still LOL at Devin Thomas and Jerome Simpson over Pimp
Its LOL for any WR that was drafted ahead of him.
Eddie Royal wasn't a bad choice, even though he's having a soph slump.
I'd still take Jackson though.
Quote from: Munson on November 05, 2009, 04:50:11 PM
Eddie Royal wasn't a bad choice, even though he's having a soph slump.
I'd still take Jackson though.
brilliance!
Just saying I wouldn't "LOL" at that draft choice.
Royal was half the college player that pimp was. Royal is just a victim or Orton
no one lol'ed at the royal pick...they lol'ed at the royal over pimp pick....as they should
i'm l'ingmfao at the over use of various tenses of lol in this thread.
Eddie Royal is a good player, thing is if you go back and do that draft over pimp is a top 5 if not top 3 pick.
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on November 01, 2009, 06:15:07 PM
(http://d.yimg.com/a/p/ap/20091101/capt.b602510a590c4bba9e98da537955c3ef.giants_eagles_football_pack103.jpg)
awesome :-D
http://kissingsuzykolber.uproxx.com/2009/11/the-andy-reid-o-face-photoshop-contest-honorable-mentions.html
http://cdn.ksk.uproxx.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/11/reid-dandy-andy-Retom-Granks.jpg
lol
http://kissingsuzykolber.uproxx.com/2009/11/the-andy-reid-o-face-photoshop-contest-and-the-winner-is.html
that last link with the AR aerobics is farging hilarious, lmao
that's not aerobics, that some fruity dude who is imitating beyonce and doing all the steps from her single ladies video. search youtube for "cubbie single ladies." it actually makes that .gif more hilarious.
Not getting the ball enough? Hire Rosenhaus to complain for you!
DeSean just did according to Brian Setzer
more like time to re do that deal....cake em off banner inc
well yea...that too. He's not a FA until after 2011 though so he's kicking it in gear early, especially if most people think he's a future NFL star...
a re do of his deal this coming offseason is not a crazy thought for the eagles or a 2008 draft pick
Nope, he should be paid this off season.
But they won't do it. They'll cite the uncertainty in the labor negotiations.
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on November 11, 2009, 03:23:54 PM
Nope, he should be paid this off season.
But they won't do it. They'll cite the uncertainty in the labor negotiations.
if there's no cba in place for next year, then they should absolutely cake him off during the uncapped year when they can throw the vault at him and not get penalyzed. doing anything would would be moronic to say the lease.
http://www.fannation.com/truth_and_rumors/view/127928-desean-jackson-changes-agents?eref=fromSI
DeSean Jackson changes agents
lemme guess
drew rosenhaus?
no howie mandel
was talking to someone today that deals with autograph signings and just had DeSean no-show 3 times on him......he said DeSean was a total d*ck before Rosenhaus and figures to be an even bigger one now, and he wants $15,000 for a 1-hour appearance when most players get $1,500-$3,000
I love watching the guy play and as long as he keeps scoring TDs, none of that ish matters, but geez...
Gotta make up for that 2nd round contract not paying him enough
I, for one, am shocked that a highly talented young athlete with a habit asshattery on the field would be such a jerk off the field.
He could rape a troop of girl scouts and I still wouldn't give a shtein. Dude's ridiculously talented on the field and since what he does off the field doesn't matter to me at all, that's all that counts.
i find it funny that the guy booked him a 3rd time after he no-showed the first two times. take a hint
supposedly he backed out of two appearances then promised to send some autographed stuff over to make up for it and he didn't do that either, then he got all pissy when confronted about it
Here's some more DeSean stuff:
-- http://www.deseanjackson10.com
-- Twitter (http://twitter.com/deseanjackson10) (verified)
Quotetucced low chilln bac to da hussle 2morrow grind boy
riiiight....
and this (http://950espn.com/Blogs/tabid/192/articleType/ArticleView/articleId/5179/Default.aspx) from 97.5 ESPN:
QuoteWR DeSean Jackson "will make it happen" to stay in Philadelphia with Drew Rosenhaus now his agent: Since Jackson hired the controversial Drew Rosenhaus to represent him back on Tuesday, November 10th, the receiver has been reserved in discussing his decision to ditch the DeBartolo Sports and Entertainment Group in favor of his new agent. This past Monday marked our station's first edition of its bi-weekly "The DeSean Jackson Show" since the swap occurred, so when a fan called in during the first segment and expressed his concern to Jackson about his association with the aggressive Rosenhaus, my co-host Harry Mayes and I decided to explore the subject further.
Jackson attempted to assuage the caller's anxiety, saying his choice to hire Rosenhaus "has nothing to do with me leaving Philadelphia or wanting to leave."
"It was a personal decision. My [previous] agency, I didn't feel like it was making the best for me. That's an off-field issue but it's not going to change nothing about me. I'm still going to put in the work. I'm happy here. We'll make it happen," said Jackson, alluding to what will likely be a forthcoming contract renegotiation with the Birds' brass this off-season following the conclusion of his second NFL campaign, the earliest he's eligible for such talks.
If the Eagles' fan base is experiencing angst about the Jackson-Rosenhaus association, those emotions probably stem from the implosion of the team's relationship with its previous big-play wideout Terrell Owens, after he signed with Rosenhaus in an unsuccessful push for a revised pact.
During what Jackson described as a "long process" of forging this partnership, his camp apparently put Rosenhaus on the spot, asking him about what precipitated the T.O. incident with the Birds, and seeking reassurances that Jackson's renegotiation wouldn't suffer from a similar, hostile tone.
"T.O. is a different person than DeSean Jackson," said Jackson Monday night from the Aloft Hotel located near Philadelphia International Airport. "I respect T.O. He's a great player, but as far as his personality and the way he goes about things, it's totally opposite from myself. It's not to say nothing bad about him, but we handle things in two different perspectives. So, we'll leave it at that."
Jackson, to his credit, has surrounded himself with a strong support network, anchored by his mother Gayle and older brother Byron. They are very aware of the star-power potential Jackson possesses, and are determined to assist in squashing what so far has proven to be the misguided negative perception of his work ethic coming out of Cal. Jackson himself considers Rosenhaus, with whom he connected via several of his peers, misunderstood.
"He's going to do the best thing he can for his players, whether people like him or not," said Jackson. "As an agent, he works for his players. I feel he does the best job for his players."
Jackson, whose base salary for 2009 is a reported $385,000, insists that he is holding off on dwelling on finances until his squad's current run ends.
"Gotta get through the season," Jackson said about when he'll start contemplating a new contract. "Hopefully, we'll get to the Super Bowl, and have a big year. That's what the focus is on."
not 100% convinced, but OK...
he just referred to himself in the 3rd person and didnt come as a total douche. he is a legend and a god. he is THE pimp. he can do no wrong. calm down easy.
Quote from: MDS on November 25, 2009, 11:26:58 PM
he just referred to himself in the 3rd person and didnt come as a total douche.
You are completely farged in the head.
Quote from: MDS on November 25, 2009, 11:26:58 PM
he just referred to himself in the 3rd person and didnt come as a total douche. he is a legend and a god. he is THE pimp. he can do no wrong. calm down easy.
LOL!! A legend? A God? He's already done some wrong, but seems to be making up for it quite nicely. He's good, no doubt, but let's not get carried away.
QuoteDrew Rosenhaus
Oh FFS that guy is in bad need of a bullet to the head.
(Drew, not Pimp)
Maybe both. Let's not rule anything out just yet.
any word on the kids injury today
He died.
Hope it isn't bad. Be a terrible thing too lose the best player on the team.
No chance.
The defensive tackles are fine.
Ha! You mean no chance of the defensive tackles not being fine as they suck.
Quote from: 4and26 on November 29, 2009, 07:51:11 PM
any word on the kids injury today
Quotebruh B smacced upside da hed feeln dizzE but B aight fo sho
look for that on his Twitter account
Quote from: BigEd76 on November 29, 2009, 08:08:48 PM
Quote from: 4and26 on November 29, 2009, 07:51:11 PM
any word on the kids injury today
Quotebruh B smacced upside da hed feeln dizzE but B aight fo sho
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look for that on his Twitter account
concussion in ebonics
Don't confuse ebonics with texting. One is anal rape of English, the other is vaginal. Not that English wasn't asking for it, mind you.
Quote from: James NicollThe problem with defending the purity of the English language is that English is about as pure as a cribhouse whore. We don't just borrow words; on occasion, English has pursued other languages down alleyways to beat them unconscious and rifle their pockets for new vocabulary.
Quoteup early wit da birds ya boi got his bell rong sheeeeeesh was outta there.. im meeeeeh... still tho
welp the brain's OK
bark
loved him saying Celek, Shady, and Desean are always out in the clubs in the pregame
happy 23rd djax
Here's a "conversation" he had with Dorell Wright (Miami Heat) a couple of hours ago:
Quote@DWRIGHTWAY U KNO WAT TIME IT IZ BRO IMA SET IT OFF 1ST I KNO U GONNA BRING IT IN JERKN WIT YA BRODIE WE DOIN IT LOVE 1 U NBA IM NFL....
@deseanjackson10 a lil bro u alreay knw trunt all the way up
Twitter. It's a great thing.
was he hitting random keys?
Quote from: Seabiscuit36 on November 30, 2009, 08:06:05 PM
bark
loved him saying Celek, Shady, and Desean are always out in the clubs in the pregame
It's hard for me to imagine Brent Celek hanging out with Shady McCoy and DeSean Jackson. With his fo-hawk and DSLs..
im pretty sure its hard for you to imagine any white guy going near black people
post that picture again of the whites only club you claim you watch eagle games at
Oh look, here comes DeSean, LeSean, and their good friend Brent.
Quote from: Eagaholic on December 01, 2009, 12:49:02 AM
was he hitting random keys?
Hooked on Phonics? :paranoid
I think I got all of it except for 'trunt'.
Anyone?
the urbandictionary definition doesn't seem to fit here
Quote from: BigEd76 on December 01, 2009, 01:18:49 PM
the urbandictionary definition doesn't seem to fit here
whitest answer ever
Quote from: General_Failure on December 01, 2009, 10:48:15 AM
Oh look, here comes DeSean, LeSean, and their good friend Brent.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oo8CrY_ZfFk
George Carlin hates the name Brent. He also hates the name Jordan another of which who we signed today.
Quote from: ice grillin you on December 01, 2009, 09:19:44 AM
im pretty sure its hard for you to imagine any white guy going near black people
post that picture again of the whites only club you claim you watch eagle games at
You do realize that is an addition built onto a house, correct? Go check out the sports memorabilia thread, there's plenty of pictures for you.
Not my fault my old italian relatives don't know many black people in Reading.
Quote from: General_Failure on December 01, 2009, 10:48:15 AM
Oh look, here comes DeSean, LeSean, and their good friend Brent.
:-D
Per Sal Pal on 97.5...Pimp is out this weekend.
I read recently the NFL guideline is to be symptom free for 7 days after a concussion before being cleared to play again, which pretty much guarantees being out the next week (with Sun-Sun games). I think that's why Roethlisberger didn't play. He supposedly seemed ok and closer to the game had symptoms (he threw up after screwing an ugly hotel clerk).
If true - this is where the team could have used Gibson nicely..Oh wait, b/c they farged up again at LB, they pissed away Gibson in a mid-season desperation move. This farging team suffers from unintended consequences time and again as management alternates between cheap and all-knowing, operating from a smug perch of pride and self satisfaction.
Even with the LB situation, I'd much rather have Witherspoon over Gibson. He's doing OK in St. Louis, and he has some talent, but Biscuit in the Baskett had some decent games too. Definitely expendable.
Quote from: JackStraw on December 02, 2009, 12:55:57 PM
If true - this is where the team could have used Gibson nicely..Oh wait, b/c they farged up again at LB, they pissed away Gibson in a mid-season desperation move. This farging team suffers from unintended consequences time and again as management alternates between cheap and all-knowing, operating from a smug perch of pride and self satisfaction.
The Witherspoon trade worked out great for both teams. Not quite sure why the need for the post above, but whatever.
Rock on witcha bad self.
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on December 01, 2009, 11:21:57 PM
Per Sal Pal on 97.5...Pimp is out this weekend.
Per Pimp himself: "I don't think I can go," Jackson said. "I blacked out."
But the trade didn't have to happen. If they addressed the situation during the OS, instead of smugly continuing to deny the LB position thinking that Bradley was all they needed...
To me, this particular season, Gibson was preferable to Baskett, Brown, and maybe even missing-man Curtis (who hasn't done shtein for two years netting exactly 38 receptions since 2007), and costing them nothing to keep. The only farging upside for once is the trade had some redeeming value though possibly Witherspoon is journeyman material sizzling like steak only cause of the Alpo on the rest of the plate. Opposing teams still look at that LB line-up and think "Tight Ends Gone Wild"
And, now, outside of Maclin and Avant, who is there at #3? Cheggie? How many wasted roster spots on this team again?
How many third receivers would you like?
at least 3.
Well farg you, you get none now.
They weren't going to cut Brown because of the contract issue. Gibson was a no-brainer.
Just seeing him in a few Rams' games, Gibson looks like a punk who thinks he's a superstar. farg him.
So you'd rather have Gibson, and LBs Bradley, Gocong, and Jordan, over no Gibson but having Bradley, Witherspoon, and Gocong as starting LBs. Just saying that talent for talent the Eagles made a good mid-season trade that rarely ever occurs. I was hoping the Eagles would have signed Witherspoon in free agency when he hit the market a couple of years back. Could they have used more depth at LB? Yeah. Guess I just don't get the Gibson infatuation.
At least DeSean's concussion came in a good week. If they can't beat the Falcons without their two top offensive players then this team has no hope of making any noise later on.
the point is that if they paid even a modicum of attention to the linebackers they wouldnt have had to trade for witherspoon
for example if out of the group of gocong jordan tracy white foku joe mays there was even one (two would be even better) good linebacker witherspoon might not have been neccessary
i mean all you need to know about the quality of the lb's is that they had to bring in jeremiah trotter
I don't think the problem is so much that they had to as it is they did.
true but they still had to bring someone off the street because what they had on the roster was complete dreck
At least a young guy off the street has a tiny bit of potential. And two good knees, probably.
Pipe down, slackers!
See, if Andy were smart, he'd have Trotter playing on the opposing defense every week. Then his stupid as all farg game plan would work right.
I'm just sayin that generally speaking WR's are worth more than LB's. And that the team could have had "all the above" easily, except for pride. Raheem Brock says hi...
Raheem Brock is a DE/DT.
Yes - I was referring to another brilliant Reid-Co decision to smugly (gee I like that word) cut-off their schmeckel to spite their face by denying a farging $15k rookie signing bonus thereby losing him to the Colts. He's no all-pro, but for $15k mother fargin dollars he was a damn sight better outcome than Doogs or other "point-of-pride" personnel decisions Cap'n Andy doggedly stuck with.
I'm all for Reid bashing and especially giving Banner worse but doing so about Witherspoon/Gibson is just stupid. It's worked out great for the Eagles and about the same for the Rams.
Let. It. Go.
As stupid as the decision was in hindsight, lets not pretend that we all knew that Raheem Brock was going to be as good as he is. He was a 7th round pick coming from football powerhouse (hi MDS!) Temple.
True, but in the same draft, they picked a kid in the 3rd round from 'Nova. And while correct that no one could have known, they cut him over a measly signing bonus - not even a base salary issue. If I'm not mistaken he came into TC before that happened as well. So for their farging pride of $15-25k they cut him. Indy sure thought he looked good. Plus his dad was a player - Zachary Dixon, who even played for the birds.
Look I know the sun don't rise and set on this guy, but crap, they saw fit to give Tyreo Harrison, 6th rd rook, a $50k sb that same year and Freddy Milons (5th) $110k. Good times from Cap'n Andy. And 02 was one of his better drafts.
I'm done now, sorry for the dead horse beating.
iirc, they couldn't sign him because they ran out of money under the rookie pool cap, it wasn't that they were just cheap and refused to cough up a few extra bucks.
http://www.ustream.tv/channel/the-real-desean-jackson
Pointing. And Laughing.
Fred Davis or Pimp.. Tough choice
Backwards dance in the endzone...my favorite endzone celebration so far.
he is single handedly making me root for this team again
QuoteThen came Jackson's scintillating dash on the punt runback, setting a franchise record with his third such return for a TD.
"He got us, man," Giants defensive end Osi Umenyiora said. "We had a plan but ... we just couldn't cover him."
Other than maybe Chris Johnson there is no doubt this dude is the most electric player in football. And how awesome is it that he gets Big Red involved in the act?
Reid was gushing after the game about "The kid loves to play the game, and he gets both sides of the ball excited"
http://espn.go.com/blog/nfceast/post/_/id/8222/jackson-was-the-giants-worst-nightmare
Quote from: ice grillin you on April 27, 2008, 05:31:08 PM
has anyone ever passed the look test more than desean....dook is PIMP...this could be the best draft pick of the andy reid eagles era
Quote from: King Cole on April 26, 2008, 07:59:48 PM
Honestly. I hate to be a downer here, but he won't help us right away. This team is a joke.
The Cowboys are still WAY better than us. We could've kept our 2nd round pick and still got Desean and stayed at 19 and got Kenny Phillips even or Merling, Otah.
I didn't want Otah if it meant no WR, but in hindsight it makes sense.
This team is a joke.
LOfargINGLOL
Seabiscuit FTW
BEST PICK EVER!
Quote from: ice grillin you on April 28, 2008, 10:13:23 AM
it questionable as to how good of a wr he can be...or if he can be one at all
I would just like to point out that a WR drafted by the Philadelphia Eagles is most likely going to make the pro bowl. Unreal.
How many WRs make the pro bowl? Sidney Rice, Steve Smith (NYG), Miles Austin, and Larry Fitzgerald are all having pro bowl caliber years as well. Roddy White should probably be in the conversation as well
(http://media.philly.com/images/121409-desean-jackson-40041.jpg)
ha...check out all the Giants chasing him while the Eagles celebrate in the background
Quote from: BigEd76 on December 14, 2009, 02:12:35 PM
(http://media.philly.com/images/121409-desean-jackson-40041.jpg)
ha...check out all the Giants chasing him while the Eagles celebrate in the background
Like he's some kind of pied piper leading a new Rockette's routine....
hey, those 2 giants guys to the left are out of formation. that's probably why their coverage plan didn't work.
That shot is unreal. This guy is amazing and agreed that next to Chris Johnson he is the most exciting player in the league.
Quote from: Tomahawk on December 14, 2009, 01:03:19 PM
How many WRs make the pro bowl? Sidney Rice, Steve Smith (NYG), Miles Austin, and Larry Fitzgerald are all having pro bowl caliber years as well. Roddy White should probably be in the conversation as well
4 players for each squad. I think just because of all hype he is getting he will be a lock. Jackson is all over the national sports news.
That return was friggen' awesome. I've been watching the Eagles for quite a while and I've never seen a player with his speed. Three steps and he's gone. Amazing.
One thing though, shouldn't it be DE WEAPON, instead of DA WEAPON?
Quote from: NGM on December 14, 2009, 03:36:46 PM
Quote from: Tomahawk on December 14, 2009, 01:03:19 PM
How many WRs make the pro bowl? Sidney Rice, Steve Smith (NYG), Miles Austin, and Larry Fitzgerald are all having pro bowl caliber years as well. Roddy White should probably be in the conversation as well
4 players for each squad. I think just because of all hype he is getting he will be a lock. Jackson is all over the national sports news.
you can often count on a player or two not making it at a given position, so he could make it as an alternate as well.
He might make it as the return guy.
(http://l-userpic.livejournal.com/43353253/2497543)
Breaking News: This Jackson kid is a Prime Time Player!
Seriously though, the last WR I can remember having this big an impact for the Eagles was Mike Quick. Only real negative (other than remembering to showboat AFTER scoring) I can think of is Pimp's size, might it limit his career (taking a beating from bigger defenders) long term?
^ DeSean is live on ustream right now with Macho....heading to AC later
(http://home.comcast.net/~hankbaskett/sports/deseanLQ.gif)
(http://img693.imageshack.us/img693/4831/6a00d83451af4b69e20120a.gif)
The dance in the end zone might just be lamer than any celebration done by McNabb. Impressive.
wouldnt crack donnies top ten
However lame his dance might have been, it doesn't seem to have stopped the Pro Bowl votes from pouring in. (http://www.playerpress.com/articles/desean-jackson-jets-up-pro-bowl-ballot)
Also, somebody find those guys a proofreader.
he wont be playing anyway since superbowl teams dont put players in the game anymore
Trade deadline passed weeks ago.
Quote from: General_Failure on December 15, 2009, 01:13:38 PM
The dance in the end zone might just be lamer than any celebration done by McNabb. Impressive.
lol do you even know what he was doing? like it or not that shtein is whats goin down in the clubs right now. stop being so old and white.
Kids are doing the Riverdance in clubs nowadays? Weirdos
I have to post this again...the reverse leg kick dance by Desean is my favorite all time.
Quote from: MDS on December 15, 2009, 02:45:25 PM
Quote from: General_Failure on December 15, 2009, 01:13:38 PM
The dance in the end zone might just be lamer than any celebration done by McNabb. Impressive.
lol do you even know what he was doing? like it or not that shtein is whats goin down in the clubs right now. stop being so old and white.
So, Rico Suave, do you wear a platinum Star of David on a big chain, nestled safely in your chest hair when you're out at the club? Shut it.
what chest hair?
What, they don't like the CF nickname? (http://www.philly.com/philly/sports/eagles/20091216_Ashley_Fox___DeSean_lacking_only_a_nickname.html)
Not that this is surprising but an NFL scout was talking about DeSean in a Sporting News Today article and was saying that there isn't a better playmaker in the league.
if youre talking playmaker as in every time he touches the ball hes a threat to score....chris johnson would have a very good argument with him
farg chris johnson
chris johnson has the edge in the sense that he's a runningback and typically has to go through all 3 levels of the defense in order to make big play where jackson typically has to beat a couple of guys. but jackson is also a dynamic punt returner so that bodes in his favor.
basically, they are 1a and 1b imo and arguing over or and trying to decide who is better is farging retarded. retards.
Ummm Chris Johnson gets the ball way more than DeSean. Give the ball to DeSean that many times a game and you'll see who's more dynamic. No disrespect to Johnson. He's a freak just like DJack, but come on. DJACK need to get more touches!
I'll bet DJax isn't athletic enough to do this celebration:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xe_--Xt_T2s&feature=player_embedded
btw, was the flag thrown for using the ball as a prop?
lmfao. spikes ball into his own junk, then gets jacked by another player for trying to talk shtein. classic
Quote from: Drunkmasterflex on December 16, 2009, 02:55:12 PM
Not that this is surprising but an NFL scout was talking about DeSean in a Sporting News Today article and was saying that there isn't a better playmaker in the league.
The actual quote:
Quote1. WR DeSean Jackson has to be the biggest multi-threat player in the league. He's basically on the field whenever the Eagles have a chance to make a play with the ball. Everybody talks about his speed -- and he does have great speed -- but on that play (Sunday night against the Giants) where he tight-roped the sideline on that punt return, he showed tremendous balance.
He is the biggest multi-threat in the league. I think Chris Johnson is the best at his position by far, but DJax does damage in more places.
How amazing is it that this kid hit over 1000 yards on less than 60 catches?
With 1,087yds. he is 13th on the all time list for Eagles recievers in a season and with two games left he should pass TO's 1,200 to get in the top 5 and has an outside chance at #1 Harold Carmichael's 1,409.
He is seriously too good for words. And he's an Eagle.
wow.
He seriously should stop being called D-Jax. Why do we have to give a farging nickname to everyone?
Got me, Die-Hard.
Yea, youre right...I'd be better served to use my full name and maybe even my SSN as my username here.
he's so good he deserves a better nickname
Quote from: Die-Hard on December 21, 2009, 11:11:05 AM
He seriously should stop being called D-Jax. Why do we have to give a farging nickname to everyone?
i have no problem with a nickname but d jax is god awful
Quote from: Die-Hard on December 21, 2009, 11:55:30 AM
Yea, youre right...I'd be better served to use my full name and maybe even my SSN as my username here.
Good thinking, Mike 204-76-4985.
PS: Everyone at the bar where I watch the games calls him Pimp now. So that's one for IGY.
I like DJack, cause he be jackin up defenses yo!
Quote from: Rome on December 21, 2009, 12:01:15 PM
Quote from: Die-Hard on December 21, 2009, 11:55:30 AM
Yea, youre right...I'd be better served to use my full name and maybe even my SSN as my username here.
Good thinking, Mike 204-76-4985.
PS: Everyone at the bar where I watch the games calls him Pimp now. So that's one for IGY.
people in my section are starting to go with it as well....but thats his name...so a nickname is still possibly out there to be found
I propose showoff.
I call him Pimp at the sports bar and people look at me weird. Well, a few people get it....but not many.
I call him pimp too. Lots of the people I hang with are calling him pimp also. When I wear my no. 10 jersey out people say "here comes pimp!" All you have too do is look at a pick of him in sunglasses and you know it fits.
Ha, I traded in the old McNabb jersey for a new #10 this season too.
you can trade in jerseys?
Yes, also in pennsylvanias.
Reason # 1 billion to love this guy...
QuoteD-Jax responds to Jenkins; Macho still the man?
DeSean Jackson responded to comments made by Dallas cornerback Mike Jenkins earlier this week. Jenkins didn't exactly call the Eagles wide receiver a punk, but he did kind of call out Jackson when he said the Cowboys defense wouldn't allow the speedster to run past it.
"If that's how he's feeling than that's how he's feeling," Jackson said today. "I don't get caught up in things like that. I'm not going to entertain this. I got a job to go out there and make plays, which I'm going to do. I don't think nobody's going to stop me from doing that."
Jackson was held in check in the first meeting. He had only two catches for 29 yards. The Pro Bowl receiver and punt returner has exploded, however, since that loss. He was asked if it was unwise of Jenkins to prod one of the most dangerous offensive players in the NFL.
"I'm not going to make it a bigger deal than it already is," Jackson said. "I have what I need inside of me to get me going for the game. That's all I care about. I don't feel I need to talk or relay messages through the media."
Here's Jenkins' exact quote when he was asked how the Dallas secondary would contain Jackson:
"We're just playing the deep balls. The main thing is they try to catch you off-guard. It's yet to happen to us, and we're not planning on it to happen. I guess he runs past a lot of guys, and it's not going to happen this week. It's not going to happen to us, period."
Awesome shtein there.
And LOL @ Jenkins. Good luck, dude. You're gonna need it on Sunday.
He has been held in check in other games as well, problem is for other teams it doesn't happen often.
Pimp is the first player ever to be named starter at 2 positions in the PB (WR and PR).
I wanna say Celek should also have a very good day against dallas.
pimp needs to shed that andy reid mormon humbleness and start drowning heads in shtein talk....hes acting a little soft for my tastes
wrong.
Quote from: ice grillin you on January 01, 2010, 09:56:21 AM
pimp needs to shed that andy reid mormon humbleness and start drowning heads in shtein talk....hes acting a little soft for my tastes
That is the exact opposite of soft, he is just saying "put up or shut up!"
Well said. Hes got nothing to prove. Nobody can cover him. He doesn't need to use shtein talking to get his point across. Jenkins is a joke
wow this place is weak but i expect nothing less
no doubt
pimp needed to come out over the top of this punk and he slowed up like a bitch. no good.
shocking that you'd agree on that.
if pimp burns him deep a couple times on sunday then he'll have said everything that needs to be said.
no
he needs to talk before, during and after the game
he is the pimp for that reason
Quote from: MDS on January 01, 2010, 06:58:04 PM
no
he needs to talk before, during and after the game
he is the pimp for that reason
wow youre extra special tonight
how does not everyone feel this way
because people stop playing sports in high school when sportsmanship mattered.
farg class.
talk talk talk all day long. you dont back it up you eat your crow but when you do back it up you spit on the opponents face and i told you so.
welcome to having fun, white people.
Quote from: ice grillin you on January 01, 2010, 07:00:08 PM
Quote from: MDS on January 01, 2010, 06:58:04 PM
no
he needs to talk before, during and after the game
he is the pimp for that reason
wow youre extra special tonight
how does not everyone feel this way
Well, most of us aren't really looking to be your toady, so there's that. Don't get me wrong, I'm sure its mostly an okay gig, but I don't think I could deal with having someone's balls in my mouth.
somebodys sallllllllty......
aint about me backin my boy up right now
its about you people not representin greatness thats in front of you in the form of a bonafide authentic PIMP
shut the farg up you stupid iceholes.
jackson is a great player. that's empirically proven at this point. he doesn't need to talk like a shtein talking bitch on the field to confirm it no matter how you want him to act like an iverson clone.
trash talk is for punks
shut up, whitey.
Pimp don't need to talk trash. He does it on the field. And when he does it against Dallas, he might just strut if backwards into the end zone.
Could happen.
Quote from: MDS on January 01, 2010, 08:44:13 PM
aint about me backin my boy up right now
its about you people not representin greatness thats in front of you in the form of a bonafide authentic PIMP
You're the reason people think up things like giant ovens.
A great player who doesn't talk stein or showboat? That's unpossible!
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Psh...both of those guys were soft ass bitches.
one was racist....
So are a lot of guys who talk shtein. I bet there's even some guys with little or no athletic talent whatsoever who are racist.
mormans definitely love minorities thats for sure
lol @ this crowd
it just gets worse with you people
anyone else keep thinking tomorrow is sunday....cant believe we have to wait another 38 hrs for this game...seems like it should be tomorrow
me and my liver helmet are sooooooooo ready
matty rhino holla!
Yep. I thought today was Saturday while I was watching college games today.
4 day bender+no job=no idea what today is.
Some of you fargtards should take a cue from Pimp and shut the farg up
Quote from: General_Failure on January 01, 2010, 09:29:39 PM
Quote from: MDS on January 01, 2010, 08:44:13 PM
aint about me backin my boy up right now
its about you people not representin greatness thats in front of you in the form of a bonafide authentic PIMP
You're the reason people think up things like giant ovens.
damn.
once again I detect jealousy, inflected with some admiration in this case
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Quote from: Tomahawk on January 02, 2010, 02:49:45 AM
4 day bender=no idea what today is.
you dont even know....holy crap ive been blacked out since thursday at like 4
Quote from: MURP on January 02, 2010, 04:02:42 PM
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awesome
QuoteJackson responds to McNabb
Before the Donovan haters get too wound up about that stuff he said about the Eagles' youngsters looking to someone else to step up, the question McNabb was asked concerned whether the Eagles showed their youth in the loss. It was not "who is to blame for this?''
His gist was that the young guys will learn and get better. McNabb missed a few throws, maybe could have flogged himself a little more in the news conference, but he had comparatively little to do with a defeat that revolved around not stopping the run (or the pass, when it mattered) and not being able to establish the run.
Still, for better or worse, just about anything McNabb says becomes fodder, whether correctly interpreted or not.
One of the young players seemingly in question is DeSean Jackson.
The wide receiver was asked last night on his radio show on 97.5 FM The Fanatic about McNabb's comments and whether his message in the locker room is different than what it appeared he was trying to say during the news conference.
"He basically is saying just step it up," Jackson said. "Everyone has to play their abilities. He takes responsibility for himself also. He kinda gives and takes. At the end of the day we have to be on our A game. For us to win and be where we need to be, everyone needs to play good. All that pointing fingers and saying it's my fault. It's not time for that right now. We have to play A ball."
Co-host Harry Mayes followed the clip of McNabb's news conference with this: "How about him making a play? He's an 11-year veteran. He's been to multiple Pro Bowls. Take some responsibility, put it on yourself and make a play."
Jackson's response: "Yes, sir ... Understood ... Definitely ... Without a doubt."
Jackson said the players remain insulated from the talk surrounding the team, but added, " If you played that [sound bite] through the locker room, that's not something nobody wants to hear."
Asked if there would a be conversation between he and McNabb, Jackson said. "Ain't no telling. We talk and have conversations and things. You never know."
The other McNabb issue du jour concerns the numerous camera shots Sunday that showed McNabb grimacing and frustrated with what was happening for the Eagles' offense.
"Him being the leader and the bulk of the offense you depend on him to do everything," Jackson said. "It doesn't look good. It's hard to see our quarterback being mad, sometimes it's understandable. You have to shake it off and become a part of everything that's going on. The best thing I can say is try not to show those emotions or feelings on the field."
Jackson said after miscommunications and other mishaps, all you can do when you get back to the huddle is "move on, man, move on."
Jackson has struggled in the two games against the Cowboys, with a combined five catches for 76 yards.
"I'm going to do any and everything I can," he said. "I can't control other things out there. As long as I go out there and leave everything I got on the field and run my routes as fast as I can to get open. At the end of the day, that's all I can do."
Jackson tweaked his hamstring Sunday, but indicated he was not concerned.
"It was a freak accident," he said. "It's not too bad. With the treatment and things we can do to get it better, I'll be ready."
As for the game overall Sunday, Jackson said, "It was an embarrassing situation to be in a game like that and not be able to score no points at all. We've got another chance. Can't worry about yesterday. It was what it as and it was not good. We have to move on."
You can listen to the audio from Jackson's radio show below.
Love. This. Dude.
Quote from: Rome on January 05, 2010, 10:27:25 AM
Jackson responds to McNabb
"Dead the on the field histrionics shut the farg up and make a play you god damn uncle tom
lol no doubt
The 2nd bolded part makes no sense as most of the people here get on McNabb for NOT showing those emotions on the field....of course now that he does it's a problem...
getting in someones face and showing confidence in them or pep talking them up to stay in the game and ill get you the ball is one thing
constantly flailing your arms in the air...hand gesturing that you ran the wrong route...whining like a little bitch all game then blaming your teammates for the loss afterwards is a whole nother
in short be a man
Quote from: ice grillin you on January 05, 2010, 01:09:26 PM
getting in someones face and showing confidence in them or pep talking them up to stay in the game and ill get you the ball is one thing
constantly flailing your arms in the air...hand gesturing that you ran the wrong route...whining like a little bitch all game then blaming your teammates for the loss afterwards is a whole nother
in short be a man
Jeff Garcia was doing the same things when other people were screwin up......
Pimp is right on with his other comments but getting on McNabb for showing emotion on the field after being on him for the last whatever many years for NOT doing the same thing screams 'hating just to hate'.
Pretty sure no one here mentioned anything about Jeff Garcia.
Quote from: rjs246 on January 05, 2010, 01:14:06 PM
Pretty sure no one here mentioned anything about Jeff Garcia.
yeah where did that come from
pretty sad when you have to defend your hero by referencing a phony like garcia
I referenced him because people here were on his nuts about how fiery and gritty he was on the field yelling at people etc.
Don't avoid the point. You got on McNabb for one thing and when he does the opposite of it, you still get on him. Admit it, you hate just to hate.
actually no i used to love mcnabb....in fact to this day its the only midnight eagle green jersey ive ever owned
it wasnt until after i got to know him that i soured on him
but again nice try making awful blanket statements about things you know nothing about
Who cares if you used to love him. Now a days you hate on him for anything and everything, and will even make things up to hate him for. It's like watching Fox News.
Peyton does the same thing, difference is Peyton has a championship and is 1 millions times the QB that Donovan is
I'd say a lot of NFL QB's do it. Some that have won SB's, some that havn't. Romo gets all smiley and bitchy out there too.
Must be a QB thang.
the thing you're missing, munson, is mcnabb's demeanor in totality. he's either a clowning jackass or a whining, gesturing idiot on the field.
i don't know for sure, though, because i'm not on the field with him nor am i at practice or around him at all.
from the perspective we're afforded as fans he sure seems to be the complete opposite of a competent field general.
Like I said....the bitching used to be about how if someone messed up, or if he messed up, he didn't show any emotion at all, didn't go to the guy and try and correct it, etc.....But I see a lot of QB's gesturing which way they wanted the WR to go with a disgusted look on their face, or smiling after a bad throw. It's not just McNabb.
If it were Manning, we'd be okay with it because he's won a SB. If It were Romo, I can only hope people would be bitching about him just as much.
When Romo throws for 350 yds sunday, and 3 tds, and beats the eagles 3 times in a season, he can smile.
Stop pretending like you don't know the difference between motivational emotion shown by leaders and whiney bitching shown by McNabb.
He's so dreamy when he smiles.
i'm just as content discussing mcnabb's horrendous throwing mechanics and evident refusal to run for fear of being considered a "you know what" as i am discussing his inability to win the big one.
Quote from: Rome on January 05, 2010, 01:43:51 PM
the thing you're missing, munson, is mcnabb's demeanor in totality. he's either a clowning jackass or a whining, gesturing idiot on the field.
i don't know for sure, though, because i'm not on the field with him nor am i at practice or around him at all.
from the perspective we're afforded as fans he sure seems to be the complete opposite of a competent field general.
theres a reason why you have to look long and hard to find an ex eagle that will go on record about him being a leader...or really to say anything much good about him at all
meanwhile theres a long line saying the opposite and that ranges from people who like him like runyan reese and hugh to people that hate him like TO and freddie
QuoteDonovan and DeSean "cleared it up"
Donovan McNabb and DeSean Jackson apparently cleared the air over McNabb's "youth" comment and Jackson's response to that comment on his radio show Monday night.
"Whatever his comment was about, I didn't hear the question he was asked," Jackson said today. "We talked and, you know, it's nothing big. We just got to keep it in-house and stick together as a team. Don't let things like that break us up. We talked about it, cleared it up and it's alright."
FROM EARLIER
There's been a lot of talk about Donovan McNabb's post-game comments in which he supposedly blamed an entire generation for the Eagles' loss to Dallas. Let's label it Gen X (McNabb) vs. Gen Y (Jackson, Maclin, et al).
"We showed our youth," McNabb said when he was asked about, well, the Eagles' relative youth.
Some have pointed to the Eagles quarterback's comments as another example of his unwillingness to lead, or perhaps his inability to lead. I'm not so sure about that. Perhaps. If McNabb rebounds on Saturday and leads the Eagles to a victory I'm fairly sure that kind of criticism will be silenced -- at least for one more week.
McNabb clarified his comments today.
"It all starts with me," McNabb said. "I have to raise my level of play and everyone has to, as well. In playoff play there is no looking back and saying, 'I could have, should have, would have,' and you have to come in with that attitude and be able to make plays when the plays are there to be made."
McNabb, by the way, is 6-0 in the first round of the playoffs. His counterpart, Tony Romo, is 0-2. Of course, that is past history. What people care about is the now and what radio show talk hosts care about is drumming up controversy. McNabb was asked if he was blaming the kiddies.
"No, not at all," he said. "What I meant is we have a young team and a lot of things that we were doing just looked very uncharacteristic of what we did all throughout the year. I wasn't blaming it on anyone, by any means. I said that it was my fault on the [fumbled] snap, and I said that I need to elevate my game. I think at times too many people focus on just little things and they aren't focusing on the whole question or the whole answer."
DeSean Jackson was asked about McNabb's comments on his radio show Monday night and the wide receiver said that if the sound bite was played in the locker room it's "not something nobody wants to hear." Jackson said that he would talk with McNabb about the statement and about the quarterback's visible frustration during the game. McNabb said today that the two had yet to talk.
"We've communicated as a team after the game, and we're communicating all throughout this week," McNabb said. "I think the most important thing for everyone is to not put that pressure on your shoulders now because of what happened, recognize what happened in the game, and be able to know what you're seeing and let's just go out and have fun."
Brian Westbrook said that he did not interpret McNabb's comments as negative. The running back apparently stood up and addressed the team following the loss.
"I'm one of the older guys on the team and it needed to be said that we didn't play our football game this past week," Westbrook said. "We didn't do what we set out to do."
[Eagles fan]Waaaah! He gestures! He smiles! He's a bitch![/Eagles fan]
Shut up.
the fact that he even had to clarify what he did and said is all you need to know about him...this is not something the team should have to be dealing with the week before a playoff game
but as usual everything is about woe is me donovan
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i love the part where he says he doesn't throw motherfargers under a bus. i mean, he did exactly that, but that's not what he meant. or something.
Deshawn Twitter sunday.........
QuoteGot smashed by them cowboys 2daaaaaay sheeeeesh its all good we gonna sting they ass next week lil buddy
fargin love this kid.
i'd love him even more if typed in english. stupid farging texters. when exactly did vanity plates become part of our written language again?
I believe the phrase "you've got mail." answers that.
Quote from: Sgt PSN on January 05, 2010, 07:15:41 PM
i'd love him even more if typed in english. stupid farging texters. when exactly did vanity plates become part of our written language again?
y u h8n sazi?
Quote from: Rome on January 05, 2010, 05:54:05 PM
i love the part where he says he doesn't throw motherfargers under a bus. i mean, he did exactly that, but that's not what he meant. or something.
No he didn't.
And the reason he has to clarify, igy, is because he was asked to do so.
If Peyton Manning says what he said, he's patted on the back for being a leader and telling guys to step it up.
This is what I don't understand, Reid and McNabb talk in cliches and they are ripped for not saying anything of substance. But when he gets specific, he is ripped for throwing people under the bus.
Never mind what he said is the truth, right? I mean, the young guys do have to step up. They are what is going to help them win. They are their weapons - the young guys.
its a world wide conspiracy against donovan mcnabb and his family
Nope.
But the people who hate the guy will rip everything and anything.
whats there to like
well, if you like arrogant self-aggrandizing babies who have come up short in every big game they've ever played, i guess there is plenty to like
go here and check out the 'd jack' song snoop did for him....its farging great
http://deseanjackson10.com/home.html
http://www.longbeachpolyfootball.com/index.php/tradition-in-winning/nfl-alumni
the Cal Poly song by snoop is funny
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on January 05, 2010, 08:42:20 PM
Quote from: Rome on January 05, 2010, 05:54:05 PM
i love the part where he says he doesn't throw motherfargers under a bus. i mean, he did exactly that, but that's not what he meant. or something.
No he didn't.
And the reason he has to clarify, igy, is because he was asked to do so.
If Peyton Manning says what he said, he's patted on the back for being a leader and telling guys to step it up.
This is what I don't understand, Reid and McNabb talk in cliches and they are ripped for not saying anything of substance. But when he gets specific, he is ripped for throwing people under the bus.
Never mind what he said is the truth, right? I mean, the young guys do have to step up. They are what is going to help them win. They are their weapons - the young guys.
he should keep his trap shut permanently until he wins a super bowl because everything that comes out of his face now is excruciating considering he's come up short as many times as he has.
Quote"Mike Jenkins ain't never shut me down, so y'all chill out over there," Jackson said. "Them boys are scared of me. I'm a dual threat on that field. They be having like four people on your boy out there, but it's all good. I probably get man coverage like 10 percent every game. But I like those odds. I'll take that."
holy crap.
:-D
and its ON......
as far as my confidence in the eagles winning saturday that one comment automatically takes me from like a 3-4 to like a 7-8
PIMP!!!!!!!!!!
I just wish we had some more guys on the team with his confidence.
I just wish Andy Reid would die.
Quote from: Rome on January 06, 2010, 04:28:05 PM
Quote"Mike Jenkins ain't never shut me down, so y'all chill out over there," Jackson said. "Them boys are scared of me. I'm a dual threat on that field. They be having like four people on your boy out there, but it's all good. I probably get man coverage like 10 percent every game. But I like those odds. I'll take that."
holy crap.
:-D
Awwwwww yeah. Keep talkin, Pimp.
Quote from: Drunkmasterflex on January 06, 2010, 04:33:32 PM
I just wish we had some more guys on the team with his confidence.
they have approximately one...trot
unfortunately his knees arent as cocky
Trot was a mad man on Sunday - he was prowling around the bench trying to fire guys up and talking mad shtein on the field.
whatever beats actually watching him play
and @ pimp holy crap. he is a god.
i love the the confidence. what i wish, though, is that they had 20 more guys on the team with pimp's talent.
Thread title changed per Rome's suggestion :yay
QuoteJenkins: "Nothing special" needed to stop Jackson
Posted by Gregg Rosenthal on January 6, 2010 7:04 PM ET
It's been almost a day since we threw out some fresh meat for you Eagles and Cowboys fans out there to chew on. (Try to be nice, guys.)
So here's the latest DeSean Jackson quote to ponder while killing time before Saturday.
The Pro Bowl receiver said on UStream that the Cowboys have "like four people on your boy" and that he only sees man coverage 10% of the time, but he still likes those odds.
Cowboys cornerback Mike Jenkins, who usually doesn't cover Jackson, is calling shenanigans, according to former PFT scribe Tim McMahon of ESPNDallas.
"It's been a lot of talk to about double-covering or triple-covering this guy," Jenkins said. "I haven't seen it yet. We single it up. We call [man] every play. There's one man on him and we're just sitting in it. We're holding our own and that's pretty much it. We're holding our own. That's pretty much it. We're not doing anything special for him or anybody else."
The Eagles aren't about sustaining long drives. They need big plays to score, and no one is better at big plays than Jackson. Except when he faces Dallas
pretty much it
holding our own
holding our own
pretty much it
pretty much....
They did contain him pretty well except for that one play he was wide open and McNabb barely overthrew him
i dont think containing him is at issue
he has like 5 catches for 80 yards no td's combined in the two dallas games
the question is how are they shutting him down
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Damn, did the 80s make a women's basketball league?
igy - he's open an awful lot. i don't know why he's not the first read on every pass play but he's not. i love how celek, maclin & avant are playing but he's got to get at least 10 balls thrown to him every game. otherwise you're just wasting his talent out there.
then again, look at who is calling the plays for the most obvious answer.
i havent noticed him being open "an awful lot' against dallas but then again none of us have the game film
i have noticed them rolling a safety towards him on almost every play they dont blitz on
youre righ tho its no excuse...every great wr gets coverage rolled his way...its not a reason for him to have been shut down like he has against dallas...if they are coming over the top on him then give him some stuff in the flat or a short cross or put him in motion and even throw something like a wheel route his way
and of course when you do get that one or two shots that you always do every game you have to hit on it...if donovan puts the ball in his hands last week on the overthrow his stats all of a sudden look a whole lot better
you also cant have macklin having a 40 yard game on the same day pimp is getting shut down...that is excusable...pimp opens up all kinds of shtein for everyone and i love what celek does but macklin should be the first person benefitting
fox showed multiple plays where there was a corner up on desean and a safety over the top, i guess that's jenkins' definition of playing single coverage
jenkins doesn't strike me as much of a thinker.
that said, morningreid should have pimp in motion a lot more than he does. then again he often takes jackson out and inserts reggie brown in his place, so...
Quote from: SunMo on January 07, 2010, 08:47:00 AM
fox showed multiple plays where there was a corner up on desean and a safety over the top, i guess that's jenkins' definition of playing single coverage
I was watching it with my own eyes too. They rolled guys over the top all the time. Hell, they had a safety in the area when McNabb over threw him after he burned Newman.
Jenkins has turned out to be a pretty good player, but he's not too smart. I hope Pimp lights his ass up.
i dont care whos covering who or whos doubling where the eagle wr's should be absolutely murdering the dallas safties...hamlin and sensabaugh are AWFUL in coverage
the problem is giving mcnabb that extra second of time to let guys get deep...especially on the bliztes which imo will be the biggest key to this game...the eagles pick up of the dallas blitz and mcnabbs reaction to the blitz in general
hamlin obviously has a swirly necklace amulet that makes wide receivers take their eyes off the ball and stare at him
Pretty much. And you can add in the fact that Terence Newman is a shell of himself and gets beat more than MDS beats his pud.
When Newman limped off the field they put Alan Ball in. With Pimp lined up across from him. They should have taken a shot there.
He needs time to throw, and most of the pressure came from the R side, thanks for Fat Jean Gilles and Justice getting beat. Cole played pretty well and anchored down against Ratliff. Peters was pretty good against Ware and Herremans is always pretty solid.
Its all on MJG (pimp tight) and Justice to step up Saturday.
i can see the excuses coming already after another donovan let down. this time its the offense line, next year itll be the waterboy, then finally he'll grow a backbone and blame the fans for hurting his feelings.
lol wow.
Anyway, all year whenever teams started covering Jackson, things opened up for Celek, Maclin, and Avant. Both times against the boys the only who seems to have been able to get his has been Celek. If Jackson is going to continue to get blanketed, then the other two guys need to step up.
It would also go a long way if they ran the freakin ball.
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on January 07, 2010, 04:56:55 PM
Pretty much. And you can add in the fact that Terence Newman is a shell of himself and gets beat more than MDS beats his pud.
When Newman limped off the field they put Alan Ball in. With Pimp lined up across from him. They should have taken a shot there.
He needs time to throw, and most of the pressure came from the R side, thanks for Fat Jean Gilles and Justice getting beat. Cole played pretty well and anchored down against Ratliff. Peters was pretty good against Ware and Herremans is always pretty solid.
Its all on MJG (pimp tight) and Justice to step up Saturday.
the line was not great but to be fair donovan needs to stop panicing...i dont know whats gotten into him the last couple years (maybe the injuries got him shook)...he was never great against the blitz but he use to stand in there really well...now he stars getting all loonie way to early...
1. feet start flying everywhere like hes doing the damn river dance
2. brings the ball down
3. head starts going all exorcist
if he does get a throw off its normally a howitzer that he either tries to throw thru the turf or 15 feet over someones head because hes squeezing the life out of the ball
settle the farg down spaz
Quote from: ice grillin you on January 07, 2010, 05:13:55 PM
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on January 07, 2010, 04:56:55 PM
Pretty much. And you can add in the fact that Terence Newman is a shell of himself and gets beat more than MDS beats his pud.
When Newman limped off the field they put Alan Ball in. With Pimp lined up across from him. They should have taken a shot there.
He needs time to throw, and most of the pressure came from the R side, thanks for Fat Jean Gilles and Justice getting beat. Cole played pretty well and anchored down against Ratliff. Peters was pretty good against Ware and Herremans is always pretty solid.
Its all on MJG (pimp tight) and Justice to step up Saturday.
the line was not great but to be fair donovan needs to stop panicing...i dont know whats gotten into him the last couple years (maybe the injuries got him shook)...he was never great against the blitz but he use to stand in there really well...now he stars getting all loonie way to early...
1. feet start flying everywhere like hes doing the damn river dance
2. brings the ball down
3. head starts going all exorcist
if he does get a throw off its normally a howitzer that he either tries to throw thru the turf or 15 feet over someones head because hes squeezing the life out of the ball
settle the farg down spaz
I agree. And it's gotta be the injures plus the fact it takes him a tad bit longer to get moving so he has to pull it down earlier.
Quote from: shorebird on December 20, 2009, 08:39:10 PM
With 1,087yds. he is 13th on the all time list for Eagles recievers in a season and with two games left he should pass TO's 1,200 to get in the top 5 and has an outside chance at #1 Harold Carmichael's 1,409.
Well I guess I cursed the Pimp with that post, but still, even with playing the crappyest back to back games he's ever played, he still ended up with 1167 yds., that ties him for 9th in the league with V. Jackson and H. Ward, and 9 tds. His 18.5 yards per catch avg. is tops in the NFL.
good for him. maybe now he'll go out and sting someone's ass at the probowl.
he looked slow. Anyone know how injured his groin was for the last game and a half?
he got stung in the groin?
Negative article (http://tinyurl.com/yd2dj5y) on Jackson spurning first USC over a jersey number, Cal over him slipping to the 2nd round, and now possibly the Eagles over a contract renegotiation attempt this off season.
link no work
http://vyous.com/sports/nfl/eagles/2010/01/14/how-long-until-desean-jackson-is-at-odds-with-the-philadelphia-eagles-too---bleacher-report
uncapped season = give him whatever he wants.
problem solved.
so according to that article, a blue chip hs athlete grew up to be a self serving, arrogant douchebag. totally news worthy.
for the record, i don't like desean jackson one bit. i think he needs to stfu and never say anything publicly because the few times he's opened his mouth, he's ended up looking like a jackass. but i love his skill on the football field so as long as he doesn't follow in t.o's foot steps and become a cancerous attention whore, then i could give a damn about what goes on inside of his stupid head.
he shouldnt speak in public period
irritates the shtein of me (more-so that hes on the eagles) that hes been through that much schooling, but refuses to correctly speak the english language...and Im not talking about text messaging. its even more embarrassing when youre a superstar...but like I said...he can do whatever he wants on the field so long as he brings it
Pimp is hosting a party at a club in DC tonight, I might go just to be near him.
So the gist of the article is that he was/is/going to be a knucklehead....
The whole announce your school thing, I notice that the writer did not point out that a lot of players say their high schools or just their home towns.
The whole jersey number thing - stupid and petty, yes. But he was an 18yr old kid. I think pettiness and immaturity can be excused and even expected at that age.
The contract thing - pay his ass.
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on January 14, 2010, 03:45:40 PM
The whole announce your school thing, I notice that the writer did not point out that a lot of players say their high schools or just their home towns.
It's not like Cal Poly is some random ass high school either. That football program has been right up there with De La Salle as the best high school programs in the nation for a long time. Especially when Desean went, those dudes were ridiculous. Off the top of my head, they had pimp, Winston Justice, Marcedes Lewis, Darnell Bing, Manny Wright (when he was relevant), and Hershel Dennis all at the same time. I think Antoine Cason might've been there too.
Ban athletes from speaking in public and everyone's life is instantly improved.
they should have their tongues clipped on draft day. and if they actually clipped them at the podium, i'd probably start watching the draft.
Quote from: rjs246 on January 14, 2010, 04:01:26 PM
Ban athletes from speaking in public and everyone's life is instantly improved.
Seriously. We need more Phil Simms and Merrill Hoge analysis to fill up our sports shows.
Funny you mention that. I was listening to the commentator yesterday and thought "who is this? He's horrible. It was Simms. One play he just had to keep coming back to and needed to make himself right about whether the receiver fumbled. Just couldn't let it go, even to the point it was just obnoxious.
Quote from: Eagaholic on January 18, 2010, 03:18:54 PM
Funny you mention that. I was listening to the commentator yesterday and thought "who is this? He's horrible. It was Simms. One play he just had to keep coming back to and needed to make himself right about whether the receiver fumbled. Just couldn't let it go, even to the point it was just obnoxious.
Thiesmann's retirement has made him the worst game-day announcer in the league. I can't believe that he is one half of an "A" team.
haha, the worst? it's not even close, take a listen to some of the D-teams out there...steve tasker, rich ganon...awful
joe buck is as bad as it gets and hes not even a color guy
Quote from: KDS on January 18, 2010, 03:48:27 PM
joe buck is as bad as it gets and hes not even a colored guy
racist
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pimp officially put it out there that he wants to get PAID
http://www.csnphilly.com/pages/landing_09?Sources-Jackson-to-Ask-Eagles-for-New-De=1&blockID=170966&feedID=704
cant wait to see howie jew his way out of this
I think the man does get paid
Its a little different when your brand spanking young and breaking all kinds of franchise records. Eagles surprise here.
i don't know who is dumber, jackson or his agent. have the eagles given a new deal to anyone who came out publicly and demanded one? t.o, gone. tito, gone. sheldon, will probably be gone.
i think westbrook might be the exception to that rule. anyway, when dealing with the eagles it typically tends not to go well for the player when they take their business public.
Quote from: reese125 on January 28, 2010, 02:30:24 PM
I think the man does get paid
Its a little different when your brand spanking young and breaking all kinds of franchise records. Eagles surprise here.
No farging way. This will get ugly.
better get that shtein in now before Kolb crushes all of your big time contract hopes
Quote from: Sgt PSN on January 28, 2010, 02:31:03 PM
i don't know who is dumber, jackson or his agent. have the eagles given a new deal to anyone who came out publicly and demanded one?
they havent come out publicly....as of now this is no different than when mcnabb was renogotiating his new deal(s)
I find myself becoming more and more frustrated with the FO.
Quote from: ice grillin you on January 28, 2010, 02:39:43 PM
Quote from: Sgt PSN on January 28, 2010, 02:31:03 PM
i don't know who is dumber, jackson or his agent. have the eagles given a new deal to anyone who came out publicly and demanded one?
they havent come out publicly....as of now this is no different than when mcnabb was renogotiating his new deal(s)
the fact that it's in the paper means that they've come out publicly.
i can't say i have a clear recollection of mcnabb's deal but i don't remember it being reported that mcnabb wanted a new deal before they actually started negotiating. the way i remember it going down is that mcnabb and the eagles started talking behind closed doors and then it was reported that they were working on a new deal.
the eagles don't take kindly to finding out a player's contract demands/requests through the media or any source other than the player/agent. they want to be the first to know (as they should be).
Quote from: Sgt PSN on January 28, 2010, 02:47:23 PM
the fact that it's in the paper means that they've come out publicly.
even if you believe this....to compare it to a TO westbrook lito sheldon or anyone else you mentioned is way off base and its not close to the same thing
and it absolutely was reported (both times) that mcnabb was in active contract negotiations
its really difficult for players of this ilk to be in negotiations and it not get out...im sure it happens somewhere someplace but its rare
Quote from: mussa on January 28, 2010, 02:46:40 PM
I find myself becoming more and more frustrated with the FO.
no worries on this one....andy loves the guy (who doesnt) hes young ultra talented already proven and is under contract for two more years as we approach an uncapped season
this shtein is OVER
reporting that a player is in contact negotiations is not the same as reporting that a player wants a new deal.
this report says that jackson is going to ask the eagles for a new deal. that means that he/his agent have not gone to the eagles yet. which means that the eagles are finding out about this for the first time just like we are. and they don't like being the last to know when a player wants a new deal.
i still think a deal will get done. he deserves it. but it's still not very professional to go to the paper before you go to your employer. not to mention that it's a move that typically doesn't go over well with the eagles.
it also said have not commented publicly
everyone on this board knew in november hed be asking for a new deal...its a non starter
trust me youre making something out of nothing
i'm not even trying to make anything of it really other than pointing out that the fo doesn't like negotiating contracts through the media and that it's something that usually doesn't bode well in the player's favor. jackson will be an obvious exception to that rule though because he's young, still hasn't hit his prime and deserves to be caked off.
PIMP!
I SAID PIMP MOTHERfargAS!
like lightning
are you actually watching the game
i saw one of the opening plays at the bar i was at and the defensive ends werent rushing...like they literally were not trying
any chance we get to see pimp play we should take advantage.
Not watching.
I haven't really been watching, but I saw he has two tds.
i saw the little screen in the flat for a td...how did he score the other one
Well, both of them were screens. One was a 5-6 yard screen and the other was like 50 yards, where he took it up field and pretty much dashed right through the entire AFC back 7.
Jr. and I decided to watch live coverage of the Volcom Pipeline Pro on local Hawaii digital tv. After I heard all the giggling and ass licking from the booth after we did finally watch some of the game I am truly convinced we made the right choice.
McNabb's leading the NFC in rushing?
Are we back in 2000?
Seriously, that was on today?
You missed it? Oh, good god. What is wrong with you?
Eskin says Desean won't get a new contract this offseason because of the CBA uncertainty....plus the Eagles only extend your contract if they come to you, not the other way around
Quote from: BigEd76 on January 31, 2010, 11:57:53 PM
Eskin says Desean won't get a new contract this offseason because of the CBA uncertainty....plus the Eagles only extend your contract if they come to you, not the other way around
westbrook and mcnabb say otherwise
im sure there were others as well
mcnabb got a raise because his feelings were hurt when he got benched
Its going to be great watching Jackson play for any other NFC team when he finally gets loose. Atlanta, perhaps?
how about whatever team moves to LA in two years?
So, Atlanta?
2 more years in Philly will open his eyes to how much of a basketball town it is and he will sign with the 76ers.
http://www.youtube.com/watch/v/-KN4jcE2kqE
It's impossible to tell which was better - the catch/run or the excellent throw
The best part was at the end...McNabb walking off the field like he's the most accurate QB EVER!.
that video stopped a second before they showed donovan doing his gay tourettes syndrome dance.
Was it a two hand touch game or something? Jesus.
Quote from: phattymatty on February 01, 2010, 11:51:08 AM
that video stopped a second before they showed donovan doing his gay tourettes syndrome dance.
I purposefully searched for a video that didn't have that in it, but it's not like Pimps riverdance after his first TD was any better.
Quote from: General_Failure on February 01, 2010, 12:45:52 PM
Was it a two hand touch game or something? Jesus.
The defenses for both squads weren't trying to tackle anybody. Early on in the game Mario Williams got a free release and could have absolutely demolished Aaron Rodgers, but just ran on by instead.
I love the reverse riverdance.
I love love too. Love it!
No chance DeSean goes anywhere else. The town is getting fed up with the Eagles and if they screw this up and DeSean leaves then they will become an afterthought in this town like the franchise hasn't seen for a long time. People will flat out bail on the Eagles if they let arguably the second most popular player in the Reid era leave. The Eagles know it too.
You are a farging idiot.
fans stuck by this team when much more popular and longer tenured players left. dawk. hugh. trotter. buddy's entire defense. they damn sure ain't gonna jump ship if jackson leaves.
i swear, you and munson have a daily side bet going the see which one of you can out-dumb the other.
should have just stopped at "pimp isnt going anywhere" (which i fully believe) instead of taking a turn into the middle of wrongville
Quote from: Sgt PSN on February 01, 2010, 04:54:20 PM
fans stuck by this team when much more popular and longer tenured players left. dawk. hugh. trotter. buddy's entire defense. they damn sure ain't gonna jump ship if jackson leaves.
i swear, you and munson have a daily side bet going the see which one of you can out-dumb the other.
Please, the team had trouble selling out the Vet plenty of times. I don't know what your definition of "sticking by the team" is, but my definition is attendance. I'll bet you anything you want that if the Eagles were to screw up the DeSean situation and it ended up with him out of town, then you'd see empty seats at the Linc for the first time since its construction. It's not just about DeSean by himself, but you combine that with the organization sticking with the status quo and you have disaster.
I'm not saying it is going to turn into Jacksonville, but the Eagles would be so far and away #2 in this town behind the Phils it would be ridiculous. Even more so than they already are right now.
Quote from: Sgt PSN on February 01, 2010, 04:54:20 PM
i swear, you and munson have a daily side bet going the see which one of you can out-dumb the other.
It's a moot point anyway, because the Eagles would never let him leave. If for some ridiculous reason the situation were to arise, I'll make sure to rub it in when I'm right though.
As usual.
you even suck at talking about of both sides of your mouth.
Quote from: Sgt PSN on February 01, 2010, 06:34:26 PM
you even suck at talking about of both sides of your mouth.
Jesus christ...you been reading too much MDS. Slow down before you become an unhirable hack.
Quote from: hbionic on February 01, 2010, 06:57:05 PM
Quote from: Sgt PSN on February 01, 2010, 06:34:26 PM
you even suck at talking about of both sides of your mouth.
Jesus christ...you been reading too much MDS. Slow down before you become an unhirable hack.
hahaha, that was a pretty awesome error on my part. in fact, i'll leave it in place for effect.
I like when men talk to me about both sides of their mouth.
McLane (http://www.philly.com/philly/sports/DeSean_Jackson_I_know_what_Im_worth.html)
QuoteDeSean Jackson knows what he's worth, knows that he's technically underpaid, but the Eagles wide receiver said today that he's going to "patiently wait" for a new contract.
"I'm not going to panic. I'm not going to sit here and be a crybaby about it. I definitely know what I'm worth."
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The Eagles more than likely would prefer to lock Jackson into a long-term deal. But a new rule in the expiring collective bargaining agreement limits increase in base salary to 30 percent in each successive year.
"It's unfortunate, but you can't get frustrated because it's not going to change until the [union] makes a deal with the NFL. You just have to deal with it and hopefully something will work out."
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"Whatever it is I'd be happy with that. I'm not here to make a big issue out of it or complain about it because that's not what I do. I feel my relationship that I have with the Eagles and the front office is a [good] one and I'm patiently waiting. Hopefully, it will be done sooner than later."
hi. I don't care how much you make.
30% increase every year when you have guys in the top half of the first round getting paid umpteen millions. Get a rookie cap going, get rid of the 30% increase crap and you'd be able to pay the players who have earned it. A guy like pimp gets drafted in the second round, should get more than a 30% increase and can't.
As soon as they get the new CBA he'll be taken care of. The only problem is if he gets hurt between now and then he might lose tens of millions, and yeah, that's not cool.
...or, if they can't come to an agreement and go on strike, he'll lose tens of millions.
you can't lose money you haven't been paid (or even contracted for)
Call it an "opportunity" cost, then.
Quote from: shorebird on May 03, 2010, 06:02:03 PM
get rid of the 30% increase crap
that only exists because they are without a cap right now...it wont be in the new cba
I call it money mumbo jumbo.
The world needs ditch diggers too.
will be on wip supposedly at 130
expect several not so thinly veiled 5 shots
That would be football porn for you wouldn't it?
Pimp taking shots at 5 = Havas furiously beating it at the desk
maybe you can watch old video of 5 throwing worm burners into the ground and failing on do or die 4th qtr drives, then you guys can sync up the "money shot." super hot.
lol...stand by your mannnnnnnnnnnn
id be much more happy ifs donnie corned it up and choked ten times worse on the skins than he did with the birds...i want him to throw up on the field more than the lil guy at south padre spring break and i want every press conference to be a henny youngman act
Quote from: KDS on May 06, 2010, 12:56:31 PM
maybe you can watch old video of 5 throwing worm burners into the ground and failing on do or die 4th qtr drives, then you guys can sync up the "money shot." super hot.
This may be your only worth while post...ever.
take my quarterback... please!
I personally enjoyed whacking it to 5's dances. Just sayin...
Quote from: ice grillin you on May 06, 2010, 12:06:53 PM
will be on wip supposedly at 130
expect several not so thinly veiled 5 shots
So was he on? What did he say? More contract stuff?
i was listening to the phils game thinking it would be podcast and i could here it there....it wasnt...im guessing he didnt make it on cause they podcast far dumber stuff than pimp interview
I didn't think he was allowed to appear on 610 since he has an in-season show on 97.5...
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"I don't think we lost anything."
OH SNAP
thinly veiled 5 shot
Thinly crusted pizza slice.
Quote from: QB Eagles on May 07, 2010, 08:28:38 PM
thinly veiled 5 shot
That's not thinly veiled, it's a bitch slap.
Quote from: FastFreddie on May 07, 2010, 08:10:01 PM
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"I don't think we lost anything."
OH SNAP
welcome to tuesday
thats what he was supposed to comment on in the wip interview
did you all even read the whole interview?
no, I read the cover then make assumptions
Yeah it isn't really a shot at all. It is in reference to the team "rebuilding".
QuoteNo matter what happens, we always find a way to make it to the playoffs. That's the best thing I can say about it. We're always in the competition to be one of the best teams in the NFL. I don't think we lost anything, even with McNabb being gone. Somebody steps out, the next person just has to step in and do a good job."
Really, what else is he gonna' say?
"Well, we probably won't make the playoffs this year with McNabb having been traded."
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PIMP!
I have that t-shirt
Quote from: Rome on May 08, 2010, 05:03:58 PM
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PIMP!
post of the history of CF
Who can pull off that shirt with the aviator glasses? Maybe ONLY pimp.
I can pull that off with better tats to boot
5's response:
Quote"I don't think we lost anything, even with McNabb being gone," Jackson said.
When McNabb learned of those comments, he wasn't pleased.
"It's so wild when people get to talking when you're not there, but when you're there everybody loves you," McNabb said. "So I guess people will go deeper into it than I will. I'm a taterskin, no longer an Eagle. I had 11 great years and I'm moving on with my life, so whoever may say things when I'm gone, more power to them, but it's not making you look like a bigger man."
He probably didn't read the article, and was just told Pimp's comments. Of course, it might not have made much difference if he had read the article.
Ok, so in 2004 when McNabb made a similar comment when TO broke his leg, it was cool. But now McNabb is butt hurt when Jackson basically says the same thing. Got it.
I've pretty much always had McNabb's back, but he really comes off looking bitch made after that one.
He is such a cornball dork.
Just friggin man up and call Pimp out or don't even respond. His "take the high road" bullshtein act is such a fraud. Everyone knows he has himself on Google Alerts, he cares and listens to everything that's said about him. He's sensitive, he's a bitch. He pulls this card every time and expects people to feel sorry for him that not everyone is showering him with praise.
Go on Phreak, defend your boy. He's got so much class and dignity, right? Yea. I'll bet.
He should really be quiet. Does he really think he'll make that team a winner? I don't. Anyone who wants to see him crash and burn will most likely get to do so this coming season.
Thinly veiled shot at PIMP?
McNabb is the biggest bitch ever to play in Philly.
"I'm a taterskin now..."
Yeah, good and farg you, you piece of shtein.
Uh well he is. I think he did seem a little salty there though considering what Jackson said wasn't really a slight at McNabb at all.
McNabb has always acted like a mother-in-law: anxious for a slight to perceive and be offended by while unsuccessfully feigning indifference .
LMAO, great analogy Dio
And this is the top story on ESPN on their storylines. farg McNabb, his response is so predictable. Especially the
Quote"So I guess people will go deeper into it than I will. I'm a taterskin, no longer an Eagle. I had 11 great years and I'm moving on with my life, so whoever may say things when I'm gone, more power to them, but it's not making you look like a bigger man."
that last part is exactly why i hate everyone of his quotes, he's saying shtein, then finish's with a bitch made remark
i've gone from being completely amazed at his talent early in his career to accepting him as a flawed but entirely serviceable quarterback on the downside of his career to actively hating his punk bitch ass more than any ex-eagle ever.
i wonder what celek thinks about this
how can we find out?
Quote from: Rome on May 09, 2010, 06:08:23 PM
to actively hating his punk bitch ass more than any ex-eagle ever.
lol
go cheer for the taterskins, tex.
Never. I just find your vitriol towards the guys hilarious. Most hated ex-Eagle ever?
Thats igy-like hyperbole.
QuoteSN: You're left now with a young team - especially the offensive skill players, all 25 and under. Do you buy the talk that the Eagles are rebuilding?
DJ: "I wouldn't really call it rebuilding. We're so close every year to getting to the Super Bowl. My first year we went all the way to the NFC Championship Game, and last year we made it to the playoffs. No matter what happens, we always find a way to make it to the playoffs. That's the best thing I can say about it. We're always in the competition to be one of the best teams in the NFL. I don't think we lost anything, even with McNabb being gone. Somebody steps out, the next person just has to step in and do a good job."
BLACK ON BLACK CRIME
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on May 09, 2010, 06:39:49 PM
Never. I just find your vitriol towards the guys hilarious. Most hated ex-Eagle ever?
Thats igy-like hyperbole.
be serious
if don took out his shaft and said 'pleasure me jason i demand you service my rod,' you would comply. just admit to it. ADMIT.
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on May 09, 2010, 06:39:49 PM
Never. I just find your vitriol towards the guys hilarious. Most hated ex-Eagle ever?
Thats igy-like hyperbole.
i dont get the ex eagle part...thats as homerish as it gets..like you are not allowed to hate a guy thats on the eagles...mcnabb has been this hatable for four or five years...aint nothin changed but the uniform
Quote from: KDS on May 09, 2010, 06:46:44 PM
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on May 09, 2010, 06:39:49 PM
Never. I just find your vitriol towards the guys hilarious. Most hated ex-Eagle ever?
Thats igy-like hyperbole.
be serious
if don took out his shaft and said 'pleasure me jason i demand you service my rod,' you would comply. just admit to it. ADMIT.
You have a pecker fetish, dontcha.
who doesnt like a dong every now and again?
but only if wilma gives the okay first. we dont want to go harming little donny unless mommy says its alright.
Quote from: ice grillin you on May 09, 2010, 06:48:09 PMi dont get the ex eagle part...thats as homerish as it gets..like you are not allowed to hate a guy thats on the eagles...mcnabb has been this hatable for four or five years...aint nothin changed but the uniform
Everything has changed. It was one thing to tolerate his retarded antics when he was an Eagle, but it's quite another now that he's openly embracing the enemy as though all along he didn't want to be an Eagle.
I guarantee it's going to get much, much worse as it goes along. He can't help himself because he's literally an awful, bitter, spiteful, immature, bitchmade little dick.
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on May 09, 2010, 06:39:49 PM
Never. I just find your vitriol towards the guys hilarious. Most hated ex-Eagle ever?
Thats igy-like hyperbole.
You do understand that your hero ASKED to be traded to Washington, right? I mean, that was his preference, dude.
WASHINGTON.
I'm not quite at the point where I want him to die on the field but the more I hear from that bag of ass, the closer I get to wanting him Michael Irvin'd.
I wonder what extremeskins thinks of the situation.
Quote from: Rome on May 09, 2010, 07:57:26 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on May 09, 2010, 06:48:09 PMi dont get the ex eagle part...thats as homerish as it gets..like you are not allowed to hate a guy thats on the eagles...mcnabb has been this hatable for four or five years...aint nothin changed but the uniform
Everything has changed. It was one thing to tolerate his retarded antics when he was an Eagle, but it's quite another now that he's openly embracing the enemy as though all along he didn't want to be an Eagle.
I guarantee it's going to get much, much worse as it goes along. He can't help himself because he's literally an awful, bitter, spiteful, immature, bitchmade little dick.
i see what you are saying but to me its almost the other way around...if its a guy i cant stomach i want him on a team i hate not on my team
Quote from: Rome on May 09, 2010, 08:00:08 PM
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on May 09, 2010, 06:39:49 PM
Never. I just find your vitriol towards the guys hilarious. Most hated ex-Eagle ever?
Thats igy-like hyperbole.
You do understand that your hero ASKED to be traded to Washington, right? I mean, that was his preference, dude.
WASHINGTON.
I'm not quite at the point where I want him to die on the field but the more I hear from that bag of ass, the closer I get to wanting him Michael Irvin'd.
Am I supposed to be offended that he asked to be dealt there?
It pisses me off that the shteinbags in the FO actually traded him within the NFCEast
why?
btwn romo and mcnabb half the division now has qb's who cant win a superbowl
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on May 09, 2010, 08:40:35 PM
It pisses me off that the shteinbags in the FO actually traded him within the NFCEast
Thats what I can't get over. Any team but the friggen' taterskins. The one team in the division that had absolutly no qb, and you give them one. WTF were they thinking? I'd have traded him to Oakland without blinking an eye. If the FO of the Eagles are all business as they usually seem to be, then why would they make an exception? Especially withing the division. Because thats what McNabb wanted?!?! Farg that.
Quote from: shorebird on May 09, 2010, 08:52:04 PM
The one team in the division that had absolutly no qb, and you give them one.
campbell was as good as mcnabb last year
arguably better
its actually shocking they didnt give campbell a year or two with shanahan
mcnabb is not that much better if at all and they gave up a second for him
campbell was free
Put down the Boone's Farm son. McNabb's stats would have been much better than Campbell's if he had played in all 16 games. No way in hell Campbell is as good a qb as McNabb.
right now there is little to no separation btwn the two...and put campbell under a real coach with a solid system like shanny and hes probably better than mcnabb
btw how is completion % affected by the number of games you play
It's not affected, and I also thought that Campbell would have been giving a year to prove himself. I just don't feel Campbell is that good. But I'd like to think what you think is true because if it is, the taterskins haven't done anything but spend extra money on the qb position.
Only time will tell.
LOL, you cant honestly compare Campbell to Mcnabb. Mcnabb has better stats, and is a clear upgrade just from the mechanics of it all. Here's a decent site about mcnabb's Career Numbers (http://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/M/McNaDo00.htm)
i tried to put the #'s on here, but they looked like shtein. Here's campbells (http://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/C/CampJa00.htm)
Campbell hasnt been given a full shot, he's never had a stable system, good receivers, but i just dont see him anywhere near the class of DMac. Washington farged him up, Shannahan would have done well with him i think, and trading for DMac was an upgrade, but a short term one at the most. Moral of the story, Pimp smacks and Dmac is a bitch at this point for his response. Blow me
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on May 09, 2010, 08:40:35 PM
Quote from: Rome on May 09, 2010, 08:00:08 PM
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on May 09, 2010, 06:39:49 PM
Never. I just find your vitriol towards the guys hilarious. Most hated ex-Eagle ever?
Thats igy-like hyperbole.
You do understand that your hero ASKED to be traded to Washington, right? I mean, that was his preference, dude.
WASHINGTON.
I'm not quite at the point where I want him to die on the field but the more I hear from that bag of ass, the closer I get to wanting him Michael Irvin'd.
Am I supposed to be offended that he asked to be dealt there?
It pisses me off that the shteinbags in the FO actually traded him within the NFCEast
Actually, it's worse than that. They had opportunities to deal him to places that he'd never face the Eagles, but in one last instance of cow-towing to that little douche to the end, they went right ahead and traded him to a hated rival just so his tender feelings wouldn't be bruised.
And you've heard the rumors that he would have retired rather than going to a place he didn't want to play, right? Who does that to a team he's supposed to have "loved" as much as he claims?
There's plenty of blame to go around, Jay. There's McNabb for being a little bitch, there's Reid for playing wet nurse to him for a decade, there's Lurie for not pulling the trigger faster, and there's the lot of them as a front office for giving in to him one last time and potentially hurting the team as a result.
at his age no one cares about any year but this coming year and the most recent year...clearly mcnabb has had the better career...but who cares about that...as we stand right here right now there is little discernable difference in the two...you wanna say mcnabb is better i wont argue...you wanna say mcnabb is two draft picks better i will totally disagree
farg YOU DONOVAN YOU BITCHASSBITCH (http://www.philly.com/philly/sports/homepage/20100511_Gonzo___Making_sense_of_McNabb_s_remarks.html#axzz0nlopBF1t)
Haaa, gonzo is a flagy dipshtein but he is dead on here.
igy?
QuoteOpen letter to Donovan McNabb-- Understand that you are not a good person. You are deeply insincere, disingenuous and as phony an athlete as I can ever recall wearing a Philadelphia uniform. You care solely about yourself and while you would pretend nothing bothered you by telling jokes and making foolish grins during interviews, its so obvious you have a fragile ego. Your teammates have never liked you. Most of them sided with T.O. back in the turbulent 2005 season when you refused to outwardly support him in getting a contract extension, and its obvious the Eagles players are glad you are gone. So once again, please understand this McNabb- you are unliked here not because you didn't win a Super Bowl, but just because you are you.
IGY has never used that much punctuation at once.
Or cumulatively.
that guy wishes he had my prose
A for content F for execution
Would you describe your prose as "breathtaking?"
i prefer to think of my writing as life giving or allowing one to breathe
think of it as kind of word version of mouth to mouth
Think of it more as a drunk fat chick lunging at you tongue first and vomiting in your mouth.
He's missing "voluntary" OTA's this week. (http://espn.go.com/blog/nfceast/post/_/id/14644/desean-jackson-sending-a-message)
I'm good with this. Give more reps to the bubble players and less chances for Jackson to hurt himself during Spring ball. PIMP
id like for him to get in as many reps as possible with cobb but cobb says they have worked out on their own extensively this offseason so im with you...less chance he breaks one of his HOF knees
This part of the year, with stories like these, is the worst of the worst. F him. F the team. farg the press. farg 'em all. Nothing but soap opera melodrama.
I don't start caring until kickoff.
No one should care and once the season starts no one will remember who was or wasn't at a vonuntary camp.
Probably posted already, but:
(http://cdn3.sbnation.com/fan_shot_images/65710/6a00d83451af4b69e20120a52ef7b2970c-pi.jpg)
Pimp explosion
he did the rap for the front page of pimps website
carter is so white
whiter than kid rock
kid rock is a farging genius chameleon
one day hes run dmc...then hes fred durst then hes garth brooks
is there a more savy buisnessman in the music biz than that him
sure, but they are big names. Dave Matthews prints money. Jay Z.
Kid Rock is def. a pop giant, for better or worse.
Quote from: Diomedes on July 17, 2010, 01:57:45 PM
sure, but they are big names. Dave Matthews prints money. Jay Z.
Kid Rock is def. a pop giant, for better or worse.
maybe i should have said marketer rather than bizman
kid rock has zero talent but knows how to play the game perfectly to cake off...the fact that every other week he switches genres and still remains successful is evidence of this
The fact he's surrounded himself with great musicians helps him too.
Pimp was at a club where 3 people ended up getting shot.
http://www.bleedinggreennation.com/2010/7/20/1578068/desean-jackson-tweets-about-club
meh...every night club has a shooting at closing time, don't they?
only 3 ?
Quote from: smeags on July 20, 2010, 03:47:08 PM
only 3 ?
Donovan did the shooting and missed 2 out of 5.
Quote from: Rome on July 20, 2010, 04:08:17 PM
Quote from: smeags on July 20, 2010, 03:47:08 PM
only 3 ?
Donovan did the shooting and missed 2 out of 5.
well obviously it wasn't mcvitim's fault, they must have shown their youth.
Kolb would have hit all 5, but 4 of the bullets wouldn't have penetrated.
Quote from: Munson on July 20, 2010, 04:33:54 PM
4 of the bullets wouldn't have penetrated.
sounds your luck with the ladies.
Lady*
shouldnt the lame ass attempt at humor at least been that the bullets wouldnt have reached four out of the five people
You have the sense of humor of a grape, so no.
Quote from: Rome on July 20, 2010, 04:08:17 PM
Quote from: smeags on July 20, 2010, 03:47:08 PM
only 3 ?
Donovan did the shooting and missed 2 out of 5.
So the three McNabb hit have a bullet in their ankle?
you all suck gangrene dick
Quote from: Diomedes on July 20, 2010, 04:48:13 PM
you all suck gangrene dick
that was way over the line.
Quote from: Diomedes on July 20, 2010, 04:48:13 PM
gangrene dick
Google image searching this would probably be a bad idea
(http://eaglefans.com/eagles/jerome/ganggreen2.jpg)
Who's been eating the hummus? LOL (http://www.csnphilly.com/08/12/10/DeSeans-Commercial-Whos-Been-Eating-Humm/landing_eagleeye.html?blockID=288789&feedID=3041)
really not funny
but whos the chick....id do her
of course its not funny.
The two unfunniest people on this board arguing over what's funny is funny
:yay
Quote from: Tomahawk on August 12, 2010, 11:17:53 AM
The two unfunniest people on this board arguing over what's funny is funny
Speaking of unfunny...lets not forget, we did get to spend time with you. You're most certainly in the running for the award.
Quote"The biggest thing with Kevin is that he is very calm and intelligent at the same time. There is no panic and no rush. He is back there making great decisions. He's not back there making foolish mistakes, throwing the ball in the wrong place. He makes the right reads and does the right things. As long as we have a quarterback that is doing those things, we will be all right."
Thinly veiled shot?
not thin at all, pimp slapped
i have been rewinding pimps reverse since last night and the smoothness in his motion is something ive never seen before...like it was all world in college but now its unexplainable....deion and gayle sayers are the only people i have ever seen that can be compared
for real, he's the silkiest mover i've ever seen. I just sat there and laughed when i watched it over and over.
He's like AI, except AI stayed away from the courts and kept playing football
back to back posts FTL
modify buttons are for CHUMPS like RJS
ha
does anyone have video of that play?
my dvr does
http://www.philadelphiaeagles.com/ since they dont like sharing or here
http://www.nfl.com/gamecenter/2010081352/2010/PRE1/jaguars@eagles#tab:watch
gotta love the hatred of youtube by the NFL
Quote from: ice grillin you on August 14, 2010, 08:36:40 PM
i have been rewinding pimps reverse since last night and the smoothness in his motion is something ive never seen before...like it was all world in college but now its unexplainable....deion and gayle sayers are the only people i have ever seen that can be compared
It is ridiculous that play was retarded.
I have to agree with Igy, haven't seen Sayers except for film, but Pimp just glides along like the Neon Hot Dog used too. You just don't see that kind of ability often.
how he juked, then went to full speed in one step, and had guys who were in pursuit way behind him because of his acceleration was ridiculous.
Apparently, he is racing Chris Johnson on TV tonight.
like the Ted Ginn/Chris Johnson race that never occurred?
Quote from: FastFreddie on August 17, 2010, 02:19:28 PM
Apparently, he is racing Chris Johnson on TV tonight.
From what I heard, it's supposed to be Shaq, DJax, Dwight Howard, and Chris Johnson in a relay race vs Tyson Gay.
What channel?
Lifetime.
Before or after David Tutera's Wedding something?
Before Jennifer Love Hugetits playing a cash-strapped MILF who turns to hooking, after Martha Stewart teaching the art of putting household objects in your rectum for more effective kegels.
Oh, so 6pm Eastern.
Quote from: PhillyGirl on August 13, 2010, 09:57:26 PM
Quote from: Tomahawk on August 12, 2010, 11:17:53 AM
The two unfunniest people on this board arguing over what's funny is funny
Speaking of unfunny...lets not forget, we did get to spend time with you. You're most certainly in the running for the award.
You sound mad. You must have a short fuse
She's not mad......just a little irritated, that's all.
That's just low
haha I get it. It's like you changed what I said into a self-insult.
I didn't try hard for that one. In fact, it took little effort.
Little's already been used. You've got to expand your mind on this one. You're thinking too small.
QuoteIn the "DeSean-can-do-whatever-he-wants" category, the receiver just made a catch and then threw the football into bushes.
awesome.
Pimp:
Quote"I'm just here to play football. All the other stuff, I could care less about," Jackson said in the Eagles' locker room Wednesday afternoon. "I have a job to do, so if that [means] taking a role to be a leader and being a vocal guy, I'll do whatever. I'm just here to play football and win games. That's the biggest thing I'm here for."
Quote"Things have gone good. We haven't lost a step since he's come in and been the man," Jackson said. "All the work we've been putting in, we're not content. We're just going out there, like I said, being young and having fun and knowing the importance of starting it off early to carry on to December through February ... We're doing the little things we need to do now to prepare for then."
Quote@deseanjackson10: Just got all 4 wisdom teeth pulled...... This medicine got me over here white Boi wasted lol
racist
I get white boi wasted all the time. Only been black dude wasted a couple of times, and it is not easy.
and it's illegal. :paranoid
I never figured FF for a crackhead.
Purple Drank!
Quote from: General_Failure on August 30, 2010, 04:38:18 PM
I never figured FF for a crackhead.
He's not. He meant that he gets white boys wasted.... Easy mistake.
Just saw another pimp commercial for Foot Locker. Who all's sick of vampire movies?
http://www.philly.com/inquirer/sports/20100910_Eagles__Jackson_endures_hard_hit__dental_work.html
Getting wisdom teeth out right before the start of the season didnt work out well for Giroux last year.
ones a frog ones a pimp...who do you thinks gonna be affected
hockey players almost never have dental issues.
Quote from: ice grillin you on September 10, 2010, 05:30:53 PM
ones a frog ones a pimp...who do you thinks gonna be affected
Ontario isnt Quebec
well hurst ontario is french
but anyway frog = french not quebec
Where was he yesterday?
Running in circles?
trying to block for kolb
so how many more games does this kid have to have like the one he had yesterday before lurie cracks open his farging piggy bank and pays his ass?
more importantly, how many more will he have after he gets paid?
Until we know there is going to be a season, why bother with contract extensions?
Quote from: Diomedes on September 27, 2010, 11:36:56 PM
more importantly, how many more will he have after he gets paid?
^^^^
idiocy like this is 1 billion times worse than any mcnabb hater
Quote from: FastFreddie on September 28, 2010, 06:29:50 AM
Until we know there is going to be a season, why bother with contract extensions?
to reward someone who is a ridiculous player and has said and done everything right since his contract became a semi issue
yeah because it never happens that a stud gets paid and suddenly becomes pedestrian
hes not old and hes shown nothing to think hed quit on the team...so im not sure why it would even cross your mind that he would be a candidate to become pedestrian any time soon
im guessing the only reason youd say something like this is that its happened a handful of times in the past?...for every stud that gets paid and quits theres 100 that get paid and stay studs...especially in football where if you take plays off or dont play hard especially at certain positions like being a sknny small wr you can get yourself killed
not to mention he has shown absolutely no reason to think he would do this and in fact has been more professional than most
ya we'll see
DeSean needs to drag the feet on that one catch Sunday. That was really lazy. :boo
He's not the smartest WR to play the game.
im still shocked that he hasn't been lit up yet. just amazing. he should get that new contract now.
especially when you consider kevin cobb got caked for really never doing a single thing in his entire career...pimp is the preeminent home run hitter in the entire nfl
Quote from: ice grillin you on September 28, 2010, 10:21:08 AM
especially when you consider kevin cobb got caked for really never doing a single thing in his entire career...pimp is the preeminent home run hitter in the entire nfl
Truth.
And there wasn't no BS about the CBA making things difficult to get it done either. I think it's racial.
so does the other cf
No, they would think so if it were Pimp and not Kolb getting the $$$.
I wouldn't even bother to worry about there being a season or not, pay the man.
when the eagles hear they should do something you know they do the opposite. especially with minorities.
Eagles gave McNabb a financial apology for the benching
They gave Kolb $10M for nothing
Pay the Pimp.
Is now a bad time to bring up Adam Eaton's contract?
Is it me or do Vick and Desean work better than Kolb and Desean?
Hahahahaha.
I can't figure that one out. Does Kolb have a certain disliking for the Pimp? I shore as hell hope not. It's plain as day to see, Kolb just doesn't throw Pimp's way enough. Is it just that he doesn't see him, thinks he's not open? When Pimp went down it was like the second pass he'd seen that game, right? You gots to get that man the friggen' ball. Vick does and it's apparent he's lookin' his way more so than Kolb does.
Either way they gotta get Djack the ball more regardless of who's QB.
Except on end arounds late in the game.
six yard gains must be had between the tackles by the hb and no other way goddamnit!
Quote from: mussa on November 08, 2010, 04:15:12 PM
Is it me or do Vick and Desean work better than Kolb and Desean?
Jackson's stats when Kolb starts:
Sept 20 2009 vs Saints - 4 rec, 101 yds, 1 td (9 targets)
Sept 27 2009 vs Chiefs - 6 rec, 149 yds, 1 td (10 targets)
Sept 12 2010 vs Packers - 0, 0, 0 (Kolb injured in 1st half) (unknown targets)
Oct 10 2010 vs 49ers - 2 rec, 24 yds, 0 td (3 targets)
Oct 17 2010 vs Falcons - 1 rec, 34 yds, 1 td (Jackson injured in 1st half) (1 target)
Total (5 starts, 3 complete games) - 13 rec, 308 yds, 3 td (23 targets)
Jackson's stats when Vick starts:
Sept 19 2010 vs Detroit - 4 rec, 135 yds, 1 td (7 targets)
Sept 26 2010 vs Jaguars - 5 rec, 153 yds, 1 td (8 targets)
Oct 3 2010 vs Racists - 1 rec, 6 yds, 0 td (Vick injured in 1st qtr) (unknown targets)
Nov 7 2010 vs Colts - 7 rec, 109 yds, 1 td (8 targets)
Total (4 starts, 3 complete games) - 17 rec, 403 yds, 3 td (23 targets)
IMO, there isn't a big enough body of work with either QB to definitively say that either QB works better with Jackson than the other because the stats are relatively close. But the real noticable difference that he has almost 100 more yds with Vick than Kolb. Personally, I would just say that Jackson makes both (any) QB's better.
Edit (added # of times Jackson was targeted in the game) - Both QB's have 3 complete games that they've played with Jackson on the field. In those games, Vick has targeted Jackson 1 more time than Kolb (23-22). So there's definitely no truth to any perception out there that Vick throws to Jackson more than Kolb. Jackson does have a few more receptions and a lot more yards though, but is that due to Vick being a superior QB or is it because of a better offensive playcall, or does Reid stretch the field more with Vick? etc, etc, etc. Who knows?
It's awful nice to have all this information in one place.
Sarge! Allright! Good job. Those are very interesting facts. I have to admit I thought the same as most people in that Vick and Jackson had better chemistry.
pimp would put up numbers with me at qb
I loved the Eagles using the end around to help run down the clock. The Colts had effectively stuffed the standard running game after that first McCoy run, so it was actually really good playcalling for a change to give the ball to pimp.
Sarge, now compile a list of targets/completions/yards/tds for each QB to Maclin.
Quote from: FastFreddie on November 09, 2010, 10:05:34 AM
I loved the Eagles using the end around to help run down the clock. The Colts had effectively stuffed the standard running game after that first McCoy run, so it was actually really good playcalling for a change to give the ball to pimp.
Mussa's head just exploded
Quote from: Tomahawk on November 09, 2010, 11:13:55 AM
Sarge, now compile a list of targets/completions/yards/tds for each QB to Maclin.
I'll get right on that......just as soon as I'm done compiling a list of how many times your mom's vadge has been targeted by truckers and crackheads. This might take a while.
Holy shtein, you're going to be busy until the new millennium
Quote from: Sgt PSN on November 09, 2010, 11:56:08 AM
Quote from: Tomahawk on November 09, 2010, 11:13:55 AM
Sarge, now compile a list of targets/completions/yards/tds for each QB to Maclin.
I'll get right on that......just as soon as I'm done compiling a list of how many times your mom's vadge has been targeted by truckers and crackheads. This might take a while.
hit
Damn, I thought the numbers comparing Vick and Kolb passing to Pimp would have been a lot further apart. Shore seemed like it. To me anyway.
For Havas (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EvysrXFPm_Y)
Quote from: Sgt PSN on November 10, 2010, 11:45:11 AM
For Havas (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EvysrXFPm_Y)
Pretty slick. Didn't realize pimp had so much ink.
Quote from: Sgt PSN on November 10, 2010, 11:45:11 AM
For Havas (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EvysrXFPm_Y)
arrogant lazy overrated drop the ball before the end zone ignorant showboater
You have issues dude. Let it go.
Why are all of my posts in red italics?
That time of month?
here are some of the words he's got scrolled across his body in case anyone has run out of dumb tattoo ideas
God Strengthens Me -- across chest
No Struggle / No Progress -- right hand/left hand
God's Gift -- right hand/left hand
Believe/Vision -- Front side right shoulder just over the armpit/Front side left shoulder just over the armpit
also: handsome, isn't he?
hes excited over all the poop talk...its the message board version of a dogs little red rocket
The Myth of DeSean Jackson's Greatness?
Quote"The pregame altercation got us going. It had us ready. We came back into the locker room pumped," Jackson said. "We were like pit bulls, ready to get out of the cage."
hahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!!!!!!!!!
lol oh my god.... :-D
Love the Pimp but he is as dumb as a sack of bricks sometimes.
(http://static.nfl.com/static/content/public/image/getty/2010/09000d5d81c26fbe_gallery_600.jpg)
<-----------------------
Now I understand why Vick was pulling him away.
Quote from: FastFreddie on November 16, 2010, 09:32:19 AM
(http://static.nfl.com/static/content/public/image/getty/2010/09000d5d81c26fbe_gallery_600.jpg)
Greatest pic EVAR
Usually I don't like Pimp's showboating 15 yards before a td, but in this case I do considering their pregame shtein and spitting on players (airing their dirty Landry?).
Quote from: Eagaholic on November 16, 2010, 02:06:58 PM
Usually I don't like Pimp's showboating 15 yards before a td
i hate people
Yeah, he must be racist. If a white guy did it he'd be okay with it.
So a friend who's a Cowboys fan tried to tell me that all DeSean is is a great deep threat and that's it. said it after I told him I'd rather have Pimp than Dez.
Safe to say I would take both of them equally at this point. Both players are pretty damn special.
The big difference is if Jackson doesn't get his deep ball he can be invisible the entire game. Bryant is physical as shtein, goes up and get balls, and has the speed after the catch to take it to the house.
plus, his mom is a whore and his daddy was an actual pimp
Quote from: Rome on November 16, 2010, 03:23:55 AM
Quote"The pregame altercation got us going. It had us ready. We came back into the locker room pumped," Jackson said. "We were like pit bulls, ready to get out of the cage."
hahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!!!
So when Vick yells "HIKE!" isn't he basically letting those pit bulls out of the cage? He'll never change.
From Reuben Frank;
Quote
DeSean on Vick: "In my career, there hasn't been that many quarterbacks that can really get the ball to me without me having to slow down."
thinly veiled 5 shot
and every QB he's ever played for or merely stating that Vick arm is better than anyone he's played with.
Quote from: Mr. Serious on November 18, 2010, 09:25:44 PM
and every QB he's ever played for or merely stating that Vick arm is better than anyone he's played with.
haha
igy with jokes...and good ones even
How many QBs has Pimp played with including college? 4?
great locker room video
http://www.philadelphiaeagles.com/index.html
Jon--thanks for your facebook home page. Any chance I can be your 284th friend?
ooops
Quote from: reese125 on November 22, 2010, 12:40:07 PM
Jon--thanks for your facebook home page. Any chance I can be your 284th friend?
Quote from: SunMo on November 22, 2010, 12:41:39 PM
ooops
Gotta love the internets.
gotta love creepers on the internets
Im sending you a friend request right now. Just please push confirm.
Quote from: SunMo on November 22, 2010, 12:31:02 PM
great locker room video
http://www.philadelphiaeagles.com/index.html
haha... can't imagine what that tab looked like.
jesus.
looks like pimp is celebrating
QuotePut a toast up foe ya boy!! Made it 2 see another day 24! Ayyyyyyye maaaaaaan!! God is great!! I'm blessed to live this bosses life*
Ima SELF MADE FROM THA BOTTOM UP!! Came from nuthn to something!! Don't try'n take my shine!! JACCPOT ENT CEO!! THE MOVEMENT IS NON STOP!!
Dec 1st 1986 A young Star/Legend was born.... I'm here to stay foe the long run.... And I'm gettn it!! Skys the limit!!
Ayyyyyyyyyyyyyy it's bout that time! Can I get a yeaaaaaaAAAAAA BUDDY!!
LA I PUT ON 4 DA CITY!! lights flash'n like the marry go round!!
@AveStarLJ ma nigg A1 I'm turnt for all My bro's
100>>>>RT @THABANGERBH: @DeseanJackson10 NAyyyyyyybbaaahhhh0000000dddd
As unreadable as that is, he still writes better than mds.
why do you always say such hurtful things
Todd, never you mind them.
no, its really getting to me
i really look up to sarge, i think hes a really respectable guy. and his unprovoked personal attacks are truly hurtful. i just dont understand how someone could be so careless to another human beings feelings.
happy 24th pimp....only three wr's in history have more yards at this age....haters gone hate
(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3224/3299224738_18afbe208d.jpg?v=1235276669)
Odds that, in addition to being better football players than him, all three can write a legible sentence: even. Keep practicing, Pimp.
McLane says pimp is distracted by contract stuff (http://www.philly.com/philly/sports/eagles/20101201_Eagles_DeSean_Jacksons_problems_stem_from_lack_of_new_contract.html), but Roob says he's been assured he'll get paid once the CBA mess is straightened out (http://www.csnphilly.com/12/01/10/Source-Eagles-Plan-to-Reward-DeSean/landing_eagles.html?blockID=364348&feedID=704)
Jayson Werth syndrome.
jeff mcclane is a doush who makes shtein up
Jackson was just interviewed and essentially said that he will avoid hits whenever he can. Just sayin'.
Honestly I could give two stheins, he maybe weighs 170 lbs he doesn't need to take contact if he wants a long career.
Really though, why wouldn't he?
Quote from: Drunkmasterflex on December 03, 2010, 12:20:51 AM
Honestly I could give two stheins, he maybe weighs 170 lbs he doesn't need to take contact if he wants a long career.
this.
Quote from: PhillyGirl on December 03, 2010, 12:21:38 AM
Quote from: Drunkmasterflex on December 03, 2010, 12:20:51 AM
Honestly I could give two stheins, he maybe weighs 170 lbs he doesn't need to take contact if he wants a long career.
this.
Exactly. He ain't got shtein to prove. Catch the ball and get down, avoid the big hit...live to play another down. I wish Vick would avoid some damn hits too.
I too will give Jackson a pass because he's built like a junior high girl, but what's up with Maclin running out of bounds instead of trying to make a move?
Emmitt Smith patented the run out of bounds and duck your head at the last moment to preserve the body moves. I don't care if 170lb Jackson dips out.
These guys aren't doing it at the last moment. They're doing it with at least 5 yards to spare
Quote from: rjs246 on December 03, 2010, 12:19:23 AM
Jackson was just interviewed and essentially said that he will avoid hits whenever he can. Just sayin'.
How in the hell is he supposed to run with the ball and return punts like that?
Quote"Code red" could be coming for DeSean
Posted by Mike Florio on December 4, 2010, 6:26 PM EST
Despite recent reports that Eagles receiver DeSean Jackson has concerns about running shallow crossing patterns and/or returning punts due to his small frame and his history of concussions and his lack of a new contract, Jackson publicly has been saying all the right things.
And for good reason.
A league source tells us that veteran players on the Eagles were put off by the perception that Jackson lacked the courage to get hit, and that they have contemplated taking matters into their own hands.
The specific quote from the source, who requested anonymity: "Vets were going to give 10 a code red if he didn't quit being a candy ass."
We asked whether that feeling has dissipated in light of Jackson's recent comments or whether the potential for a "code red" was still in play, and the source said that it's still in play.
Though most have never heard the term "code red" beyond the opening and closing credits of 1992′s A Few Good Men, the phrase loosely means in this context that the veterans had planned to confront him about the situation, perhaps physically.
And while there's no place for that kind of stuff in most modern workplaces, the NFL locker room in many respects is stuck in a time warp.
Interesting.
I wonder which of these vets would be the ones to lay the smack down?
I would be willing to put my money on DAVID AKERS
^^proof that a fool and his money are soon parted^^
If he shows up to practice soaking wet or with burned hair, we'll know who set him straight.
Ha. Stupid fans getting upset about desean ducking contact. Ingrates.
Quote from: Eagaholic on December 03, 2010, 01:52:38 AM
Quote from: rjs246 on December 03, 2010, 12:19:23 AM
Jackson was just interviewed and essentially said that he will avoid hits whenever he can. Just sayin'.
How in the hell is he supposed to run with the ball and return punts like that?
he had a 35 yard punt return in the game your are talking about...are you people this stupid??
His choice of words has left some people a little mistaken. "I'm not going to take hits I don't have to" is not the same as "I'm not going to take hits."
Quote from: ice grillin you on December 05, 2010, 01:56:51 AM
Quote from: Eagaholic on December 03, 2010, 01:52:38 AM
Quote from: rjs246 on December 03, 2010, 12:19:23 AM
Jackson was just interviewed and essentially said that he will avoid hits whenever he can. Just sayin'.
How in the hell is he supposed to run with the ball and return punts like that?
he had a 35 yard punt return in the game your are talking about...are you people this stupid??
By 'you people' are you referring to his teammates?
he was referring to YOU motherfarger.
dance.
Sometimes I wonder about about IGY's mental health. Then I remember that I don't care.
Mother
fcking
PIMP
sellout Hoyda hot dog #1 playmaker in the nfl
yes yes yes yes
He only averaged 53 yards per catch
That's not even his QB's completion percentage. Terrible.
That was the best celebration ever! Even my boy who is a Steelers fan loved it and he hates showboating.
Pimp dun gone off. Horry shtein. fap fap fap
(http://i51.tinypic.com/21015qs.jpg)
i loved how he said after the game that he was only at 60% on that run
thanks ed
There are no words to describe how awesome this guy is. He torched the Cowboys, taking a down and out and turning it into a 91 yd. TD run!!
Vick when asked about Jackson's penalty:
"I wasn't happy about that, because it cost us 15 yards and could have hurt us, but he's just trying to have fun."
Once again Vick taking leadership role and not letting this shtein get out of control.
Quote from: mussa on November 29, 2010, 04:03:36 PM
farg that article. Jackson is playing for a better contract and if he's holding back and down right scared to catch the ball, why would we want to re-sign him? Look if the kid has had 3 solid years in a row and is legit, resign him. He's yet to do that, has shown flashes of absolute greatness, but really he's been hit or miss all year long. That doesn't sit well in my stomach and I am sure its not a good sign for the FO as well.
CHARACTER ISSUES
lol
QuoteDeseanJackson10
I jus wanna say thanks everybody for the support!! Big time players step up in big time moments!! And I wasn't even a 100%.. Ima warrior
lmao
greatest eagle of all time and its not even a debate
Quote from: General_Failure on December 05, 2010, 02:25:04 AM
His choice of words has left some people a little mistaken. "I'm not going to take hits I don't have to" is not the same as "I'm not going to take hits."
Walter Payton?
The Cowboys' vaginas are sore after what DeSean did to them (http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/12/13/cowboys-say-desean-jackson-is-disrespectful/)
Quote from: FastFreddie on December 13, 2010, 09:42:23 AM
The Cowboys' vaginas are sore after what DeSean did to them (http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/12/13/cowboys-say-desean-jackson-is-disrespectful/)
i love how the title of the piece is cowboys say jackson 'disrespectful'...then in the article only two cowboys are quoted and one of them is defending pimp...and the only place the word disrespectful appears is a cowboy saying "is it disrespectful, possibly?
Well, that's how Rosenthal and Florio roll. Sensationalism.
That cheerleader wants 10 to take her home.
(http://a.espncdn.com/photo/2010/1212/nfl_a_djaxtd_576.jpg)
Let's play... translate the quote...
Andy Reid:
QuoteI like the 91 [yard score]. The fall ... that's a little Hollywood left in him.
Translation: Everything his does makes me feel fatter, whiter, and more Mormon.
Jason Avant:
QuoteI was really mad at him because he knows better. I love him as a little brother, but I've told him that he can't put himself above the team like that. It was detrimental to the team.
Translation: I am insanely jealous of the amount of talent he has and have honestly convinced myself that were I that gifted, I would still be just as humble as I am today. No really, I would. Really.
(http://media.philly.com/storage/dailynews/covers/front.jpg)
QuoteJackson became the eighth player in NFL history to eclipse 900 receiving yards in each of his first three seasons, joining Gary Clark (1985-87), Joey Galloway (1995-97), Ernest Givins (1986-88), Bob Hayes (1965-67), John Jefferson (1978-80), Randy Moss (1998-00) and Jerry Rice (1985-87).
Sick.
pimp had as many catches as mack avant and celek combined yesterday
he had three and a half times more receiving yards than the rest of the team combined
and more receiving yards on the pimp plunge touchdown than the rest of the team had the entire game
DeSean Jackson
Safety, Pittsburgh Steelers (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?page=studs10/week14)
j need to edit the first post of the thread and include video of all pimps career touchdowns and 50+ yard catches
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qPXhoZPV2bw
Quote from: ice grillin you on December 13, 2010, 10:02:19 AM
Quote from: FastFreddie on December 13, 2010, 09:42:23 AM
The Cowboys' vaginas are sore after what DeSean did to them (http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/12/13/cowboys-say-desean-jackson-is-disrespectful/)
i love how the title of the piece is cowboys say jackson 'disrespectful'...then in the article only two cowboys are quoted and one of them is defending pimp...and the only place the word disrespectful appears is a cowboy saying "is it disrespectful, possibly?
Quote"It was disrespectful," Cowboys cornerback Mike Jenkins said. "He knew he was going to score. That's him. We beat him three times in a row last year, so he was going to come back and try to everything he could."
Quote from: FastFreddie on December 13, 2010, 11:24:29 AM
QuoteJackson became the eighth player in NFL history to eclipse 900 receiving yards in each of his first three seasons, joining Gary Clark (1985-87), Joey Galloway (1995-97), Ernest Givins (1986-88), Bob Hayes (1965-67), John Jefferson (1978-80), Randy Moss (1998-00) and Jerry Rice (1985-87).
Sick.
Was Givins the one on the Oilers that did that shake/seizure dance after every TD?
these should be all his touchdowns except for the run he had against the giants in his rookie year...cant find that one for whatever reason
2008 - skins - return - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hdsrN8j2xWo
2008 - chicago - catch (1:25) - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iRsAuATcF3Y
2008 - arizona - catch (2:11) - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iRsAuATcF3Y
2009 - carolina - return - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Ns4cqiOXxM
2009 - giants - return - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZH0bh75JMxY&feature=related
2009 - new orleans - catch - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vAawoL6hiJ8
2009 - kc - catch - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jU7znd775WI&feature=related
2009 - skins - catch and run - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TH3-ciE2IvU&feature=related
2009 - skins - catch - http://taterskins.dcweb.com/video/DeSean-Jackson-Touchdown-Vs-Red
2009 - giants - catch - http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-videos/09000d5d814f5df6
2009 - chicago - catch - http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-videos/09000d5d8146c92b
2009 - arizona - catch - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6785WGVtTT4&feature=related
2009 - san fran - catch (2:30) - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9JzklmyOYww
2009 - denver - catch (:50) - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GzCF34uXhd0&feature=fvw
2010 - atlanta - catch - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lQy8qGWgcJs
2010 - atlanta - rush - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FxqGIlfKbok
2010 - skins - catch - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LqkVmAi_IbA
2010 - detroit - catch - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rKy4zLoUPcI&feature=related
2010- jacksonville - catch (:20) - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G1cnhmp1oFk
2010 - dallas - catch - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qPXhoZPV2bw
2010 - colts - catch - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gN1jvgQJBlQ
pro bowl highlites - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UpJ5HLR5fjc
So many plays, and so many more coming
Quote from: FastFreddie on December 13, 2010, 11:38:46 AM
DeSean Jackson
Safety, Pittsburgh Steelers (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?page=studs10/week14)
That's good. We can only dream the birds had a safety like Polomalu.
Love the duds of the week, Hassleback and Oreton. Teams are going to be pounding on the door with battering rams to get Kolb.
That's good work out of you IGY. I'd forgotten how sick the punt return vs the Giants was.
Nice.
I will update when I get home.
i love you idiots sometimes
Just sometimes?!
It's odd watching those videos and seeing Mcnabb back there...never thought I'd say that. Amazing how much more athletic Vick is.
Awesome. Nice work IGY!
I know hes had a lot of big plays, but I was a bit surprised at how long this list was.
lolz at the Detroit audio
Quote"It was disrespectful," Cowboys cornerback Mike Jenkins said. "He knew he was going to score. That's him. We beat him three times in a row last year, so he was going to come back and try to everything he could."
:'( how many Eagle players bitched last year after they spanked our ass? And what about T.O's antics when he was a boy? they all loved that!
Expect DeSean to get a contract offer this week, as Joe Banner does NOT like to be upstaged by Ruben Amaro.
yeah but he hates cakin up more...expect him to trade for donovan
Or Haynesworth!
(http://www.phillyphaithful.com/assets/images/ds2.jpg)
QuoteDeSean on contract: Eagles "going to have to do something"
DeSean Jackson said that the Eagles are "going to have to do something" in terms of his contract during an appearance on the "T.Ocho Show" that is scheduled to air tonight at 10 p.m. on Versus.
The Eagles wide receiver was interviewed via satellite by Bengals receivers -- and stars on their own show -- Terrell Owens and Chad Ochocinco, and was asked about getting a new contract.
"This is like my third year. I officially have one year left," Jackson said in a preview clip. "We've talked so far with my agent, Drew [Rosenhaus], and the Eagles. We're just seeing how it can go now. The 30-percent rule, the CBA and all that, and the new year coming up next year and us being locked out, there's a lot of ins and outs that go into it.
"T.O., man, I'm going to set the bar for you. I'm going to try and get the most I can and I'm going to set it high for you."
Owens, a former Eagles receiver, replied, "I wish you the best."
Jackson continued by saying, "It is what it is, but they're going to have to do something, because the way I'm out there putting it in something's got to happen, man."
http://www.philly.com/philly/blogs/inq-eag..._something.html
LOL @ Banner. This is the worst week of his life. First the Phils steal the show during the week leading up to the biggest game of the year so far....one that will likely determine the division winner. Now he's got Pimp talking about his contract publicly. But if that wasn't bad enough, he's talking about his contract with T farging O.
Do it Joseph....pull the farging trigger.
(http://i.cdn.turner.com/si/2010/writers/peter_king/12/13/week-14-mmqb/mmqb-jackson-tx1.jpg)
Where is that T-Shirt from?
If there is a new CBA and Jackson doesn't have a new contract prior to training camp, I would 100% support him in a holdout.
Quote from: FastFreddie on December 14, 2010, 06:23:53 PM
If there is a new CBA and Jackson doesn't have a new contract prior to training camp, I would 100% support him in a holdout.
I can't think of any reasonable person who wouldn't support that. As long as 2011 is a go from a CBA standpoint, then he should have a new deal.
on that ridiculous t-ocho show pimp told that fargbag Owens that he saw how he handled his situation w the eagles and took note..just pay the dood already
Quote from: Drunkmasterflex on December 14, 2010, 05:50:39 PM
Where is that T-Shirt from?
Some great stuff here:
http://www.phillyphaithful.com/ (http://www.phillyphaithful.com/)
Quote from: Don Ho on December 15, 2010, 01:52:55 AM
Quote from: Drunkmasterflex on December 14, 2010, 05:50:39 PM
Where is that T-Shirt from?
Some great stuff here:
http://www.phillyphaithful.com/ (http://www.phillyphaithful.com/)
not really
NFC Offensive Playa of the Week
Quote from: ice grillin you on December 15, 2010, 07:11:32 AM
Quote from: Don Ho on December 15, 2010, 01:52:55 AM
Quote from: Drunkmasterflex on December 14, 2010, 05:50:39 PM
Where is that T-Shirt from?
Some great stuff here:
http://www.phillyphaithful.com/ (http://www.phillyphaithful.com/)
not really
Yeah most of it wasn't I do like the Pimp shirt though.
can someone repost the pimp plunge haters gonna hate gif...i cant recall who did it and i cant find
Hi buddy (http://www.concretefield.info/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=1631)
im talking about the haters gonna hate picture...not the video of it...i can go to youtube or my dvr for that
(http://i51.tinypic.com/21015qs.jpg)
Quote from: ice grillin you on December 16, 2010, 01:52:53 PM
im talking about the haters gonna hate picture...not the video of it...i can go to youtube or my dvr for that
Lol
.jpg is a picture
get me one that says 'haters gonna hate' on it
how bout that computer genius?
A simple thank you would have sufficed.
when i get what i want ill send out a bouquet of flowers...promise
i thought sunny or feva posted it but i looked thru their posts and didnt find it
Quote from: ice grillin you on December 16, 2010, 01:58:52 PM
get me one that says 'haters gonna hate' on it
(http://thechive.files.wordpress.com/2010/09/haters-gonna-hate18.jpg)
(http://cdn2.knowyourmeme.com/i/000/040/447/original/Haters_gonna_hate.jpg)
(http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/hs1334.snc4/162617_1583455344744_1186537691_31419719_3667609_n.jpg)
(http://commentstash.com/gay/flowers-for-you.gif)
Thanks, friend!
PAY THIS MAN
we need some kind of triple .gif simultaneously showing him backing into the endzone vs the skins, falling in the endzone vs the boys and farging around on the goalline before plunging the dagger today
NOW
Pay him in gold coins and hookers.
I don't give a farg what this man asks for... Cake this motherfarger off!
What else can be said about the guy?
I mean, shtein. What a goddamn playmaker.
Prime Time
Personally, I can't wait for someone to post something indignant about the 'DeSean haters'. You know, because there are Eagles fans who hate him. That will be a super conversation. I look forward to it.
i just want to know if any old cf whites complained about pimps goal line straddle.....dio def had too right?
Quote from: ice grillin you on December 19, 2010, 06:11:46 PM
i just want to know if any old cf whites complained about pimps goal line straddle.....dio def had too right?
Some dude Jordan Ranaan from Comcast tweeted about it...something like "give me a rational explanation of why he would do that"
(http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/hs822.snc4/68232_716174548406_10500518_39027794_1378490_n.jpg)
He loves his cleats.
I'm in love
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on December 19, 2010, 06:14:45 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on December 19, 2010, 06:11:46 PM
i just want to know if any old cf whites complained about pimps goal line straddle.....dio def had too right?
Some dude Jordan Ranaan from Comcast tweeted about it...something like "give me a rational explanation of why he would do that"
I thought it was pretty clear that he was making sure the clock was spent.
Quote from: ice grillin you on December 19, 2010, 06:11:46 PM
i just want to know if any old cf whites complained about pimps goal line straddle.....dio def had too right?
It was a smart move to try to run out the clock, if the clock had any time left on it by that point. It would have been a stupid move if the Giant behind him had made an effort to knock him away from the endzone.
Where do they keep the game clocks in the Meadowlands? Is it anywhere even close to field level? I'm puzzled that people don't know why he did that. But some people questioned why Westbrook stopped before the goalline, too, before it was explained to them so....
Quote from: ice grillin you on December 19, 2010, 06:11:46 PM
i just want to know if any old cf whites complained about pimps goal line straddle.....dio def had too right?
The only thing I didn't like was him holding the ball out before that, if he drops that he is the biggest idiot since Leon Lett. The goal line deal was smart, you could see him looking at that scoreboard.
my god.....theres nothing to even remotely not like about anything he did
Quote from: ice grillin you on December 19, 2010, 06:31:36 PM
my god.....theres nothing to even remotely not like about anything he did
I saw someone's Facebook status complaining about him running across the field... are you kidding me?
Pay the man
sometimes i really hate eagle fans
Most of the hate is from fans of teams he doesn't play for.
Quote from: ice grillin you on December 19, 2010, 06:31:36 PM
my god.....theres nothing to even remotely not like about anything he did
I just worry about fumbling, honestly who gives a farg at this point it was one of the best plays in the history of the franchise.
Quote from: Drunkmasterflex on December 19, 2010, 06:34:57 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on December 19, 2010, 06:31:36 PM
my god.....theres nothing to even remotely not like about anything he did
I just worry about fumbling, honestly who gives a farg at this point it was one of the best plays in the history of the franchise.
yeah, though I worry more about that with Vick.
Quote from: ice grillin you on December 13, 2010, 02:13:32 PM
these should be all his touchdowns except for the run he had against the giants in his rookie year...cant find that one for whatever reason
2008 - skins - return - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hdsrN8j2xWo
2008 - chicago - catch (1:25) - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iRsAuATcF3Y
2008 - arizona - catch (2:11) - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iRsAuATcF3Y
2009 - carolina - return - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Ns4cqiOXxM
2009 - giants - return - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZH0bh75JMxY&feature=related
2009 - new orleans - catch - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vAawoL6hiJ8
2009 - kc - catch - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jU7znd775WI&feature=related
2009 - skins - catch and run - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TH3-ciE2IvU&feature=related
2009 - skins - catch - http://taterskins.dcweb.com/video/DeSean-Jackson-Touchdown-Vs-Red
2009 - giants - catch - http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-videos/09000d5d814f5df6
2009 - chicago - catch - http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-videos/09000d5d8146c92b
2009 - arizona - catch - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6785WGVtTT4&feature=related
2009 - san fran - catch (2:30) - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9JzklmyOYww
2009 - denver - catch (:50) - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GzCF34uXhd0&feature=fvw
2010 - atlanta - catch - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lQy8qGWgcJs
2010 - atlanta - rush - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FxqGIlfKbok
2010 - skins - catch - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LqkVmAi_IbA
2010 - detroit - catch - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rKy4zLoUPcI&feature=related
2010- jacksonville - catch (:20) - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G1cnhmp1oFk
2010 - dallas - catch - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qPXhoZPV2bw
2010 - colts - catch - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gN1jvgQJBlQ
pro bowl highlites - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UpJ5HLR5fjc
And the list goes on, and on, and on....
^^^^^^^
hollla
Where's the Brent Celek list? It may only be one catch, but it might be a longer youtube clip than all of those combined.
Lol. Is he hurt or really just that slow? Maybe he was just gassed.
The fact that he is in his third year and has that as a highlight list is unreal. He has a career worth of highlights there!
2010 - giants - return - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n-NC2w0cFEs
f'ing pimp man
gotta hear the merrill call of that
yeah, at 2:12 it looks like it was avant who made a big block.
Quote from: Die-Hard on December 19, 2010, 07:33:19 PM
gotta hear the merrill call of that
here ya go (http://mobilwi.typepad.com/files/merrill_reese_desean_jackson_touchdown_call.mp3)
Mike Quick goes crazy
multiple amounts of chills hearing that
best play in eagles history
my man easy
i guess quick forgot the westbrook miracle
1. today
2. miracle in the meadowlands
3. westbrook
100%
Whatever you think of his endzone or pre-endzone celebrations, there's nothing this guy can do that is more entertaining than watching him set up guys to be blocked on punt returns.
When he plays football, I love him.
http://www.philly.com/philly/blogs/moving_the_chains/Video_DeSean_goes_undercover_at_Modells.html
Slightly more recognizable than Danny Woodhead.
hahahaha just a little bit
i would ear farg him if i could (it wont fit)
Nobody will ever hear you... nah, you know what? Forget it.
"tweaked" his knee in practice and will be replaced by Miles Austin (http://espn.go.com/blog/nfceast/post/_/id/24716/miles-austin-added-to-pro-bowl-roster)
So, he still went to Hawaii, got all the swag, and won't play. Good with me.
i hate the pro bowl
I ignore it and resent every tidbit of so-called news about it that creeps into my view
farg you
Its a sham. Good that he backed out.
Quote from: Diomedes on January 27, 2011, 09:41:31 PM
i hate the pro bowl
I ignore it and resent every tidbit of so-called news about it that creeps into my view
farg you
agreed
there should be some kind of board filter for pro bowl 411
http://www.philly.com/philly/sports/eagles/20110128_Ashley_Fox___In_Hawaii__Eagles__DeSean_Jackson_talks_Eagles_future.html
QuoteThis week in Hawaii, Jackson has been recruiting Oakland corner Nnamdi Asomugha, who will become a free agent in March because he did not reach certain performance incentives. An all-Pro selection in addition to a Pro Bowler, Asomugha was easily the most feared cornerback in the league this season. Teams rarely threw in his direction, and when they did, he made them pay.
"I talked to Nnamdi," Jackson said. "I said, 'Man, come on, Nnamdi, we need you to come sign with us,' because if we had him and Asante, oh, my God. That's very dangerous."
Pro Bowl good for one thing, recruiting. Worked with TO.
Quote from: Don Ho on January 28, 2011, 09:04:09 PM
Pro Bowl good for one thing, recruiting. Worked with TO.
And that's a good thing?
Like my first fiancee it was for the first year then it got ugly.
Quote from: Rome on January 29, 2011, 10:26:03 AM
Like my first fiancee it was for the first year then it got ugly.
I don't know if you're joking or not but if you were engaged and it ended badly, why on earth would you ever consider doing it again? [/wrong thread]
I'm just unclear about whether the engagement got ugly, or the fiancee.
its also possible she realized she married a cranky nerd who likes sports a lot
Got engaged, later discovered I hated her and her retarded mongrel slovak/polack family, and bailed.
slovak nation represent!
Quote from: MDS on January 29, 2011, 11:43:35 AM
its also possible she realized she married a cranky nerd who likes sports a lot
^^Doesn't know the meaning of fiancee or engagement^^
and probably never will
You expect a lot from a Temple graduate.
Quote from: Rome on January 29, 2011, 10:26:03 AM
Like my first fiancee wife it was for the first year then it got ugly.
pimp is on George Lopez's talk show tonight. No idea why
Quote from: BigEd76 on February 01, 2011, 11:40:51 PM
pimp is on George Lopez's talk show tonight. No idea why
Probably the same reason Brian Wilson was on there the other day. A Youtube embed on a sports blog or two is the closest that show is going to get to having actual viewers.
Lopez is horrible. Tried to watch it the other night and couldn't take it. Guys not even funny. Apparently he's a real icehole and is full of himself. Take Carlos Mencia any day.
He's not funny, either.
Quote from: BigEd76 on February 01, 2011, 11:40:51 PM
pimp is on George Lopez's talk show tonight. No idea why
because talk shows have guests?
GMC "Never Say Never" Play of the year WINNER
Here's (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hSaoswGERGg) the video if anyone missed it
DeSean was also on The View this morning with Jamaal and Manneans, surprising the local 13-yr old beating victim with a big basket of stuff, tickets to any game next season, and the jersey off his back (which he also signed)
He'll also be at the Philly car show tonight
hopefully they gave him a can of mace or a gift card for some karate lessons, otherwise they didn't help much
or tell him to stop being a Hoyda and punch the kids in the face
DeseanJackson10
Big shout to the View whoopi goldbird and barbara Walters!! Had a great time !! http://plixi.com/p/74520932
why doesn't barbera walters just die already
goldbird
here's the video (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RodEu3_kI_s)
the kid is almost bigger than desean
That was farging awesome.
Why was I not notified he was going to be out here for George Lopez? :boom :boom :boom
You don't watch his show religiously? And by that, I mean a little Lopez shrine made of melted candles all around your television with a big golden cross on top.
Uh....no...the candle shrine you speak of is reserved for our beloved 'Virgen Maria'. Duh.
I know Maria... and that skank is no virgen!
Quote from: SD_Eagle5 on April 26, 2008, 07:59:29 PM
shocked the hell out of me, I thought they'd take a safety. Love the pick but sadly I think they'll try and pass him off as the offensive playmaker fans have wanted.
I'm glad this guy doesn't post here anymore.
Quote from: King Cole on April 26, 2008, 07:59:48 PM
Honestly. I hate to be a downer here, but he won't help us right away. This team is a joke.
The Cowboys are still WAY better than us. We could've kept our 2nd round pick and still got Desean and stayed at 19 and got Kenny Phillips even or Merling, Otah.
I didn't want Otah if it meant no WR, but in hindsight it makes sense.
This team is a joke.
Wish I could say the same.
Front page of ESPN right now:
Rick Reilly article on the beating victim and the visit to The View (http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/news/story?id=6120346)
In related news, you're lying if you say you wouldn't be delighted to PIITB of Elizabeth Hasselbeck.
After violating Mrs. Hassleback I'd like to slap around Whoopie and Joy Behar and not in a good way.
Hopefully your slapping would be fatal.
:-D
Quote from: BigEd76 on February 14, 2011, 01:39:13 PM
Front page of ESPN right now:
Rick Reilly article on the beating victim and the visit to The View (http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/news/story?id=6120346)
Sassy went to Valley Forge. Sassy joined the Marines. This kid is farged.
Good story though.
way to piggyback off of other peoples work you piece of shtein hack reilly
farg him
he really is awful...the way he saps up an already good story is sickening. he needs to go away...and take his last 5 years of work with him.
seriously one of the worst there is right now.
Didn't Reilly write that god awful movie Leathernecks staring George Clooney? One of the worst movies ever. He has really gone to shtein.
Absolutely - he is awful and has been for years.
Garbage.
Twitter!
One of these things is not like the others:
(http://mobilwi.typepad.com/.a/6a0120a6dde087970b014e8663b02d970d-400wi)
The guy on the left isn't wearing sunglasses. Nailed it!
Wrong. The guy in the middle is Jewish.
Quote from: FastFreddie on February 28, 2011, 01:34:24 PM
Wrong. The guy in the middle is Jewish.
Wrong. The guy in the middle is obviously Humpty from Digital Underground.
the 15-yr girl with cancer that DeSean dedicated the wildcard game to died
If only Cooper could have gone up and hauled that in
If only Vick didn't underthrow the ball.
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2011/05/21/SP0A1JJBAC.DTL
good for him
good for the kids too...they might listen to him
They certainly can't accuse him of talking down to them.
For some reason this is a top story on ESPN today:
QuoteDeSean Jackson's June 30 appearance on the All Out Show with Rude Jude and Lord Sear. (It airs on Sirius XM's Shade 45—an Eminem-branded hip hop channel)
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Troy in Tennessee asks if DeSean's "had his dick knocked in the dirt [indecipherable]," before the call ends. According to the invaluable Urban Dictionary, knocking one's dick in the dirt entails knocking someone down or out—maybe even giving someone a concussion?
Jackson replies, "What type of question is that? Say 'no homo', gay-ass. Faggot."
Now, we don't know whether DeSean assumed "dick in the dirt" was some sort of reference to gay stuff—it could be!—or whether DeSean was just particularly cranky then.
When I saw Deadspin post that the other day I had a feeling that it would eventually gain traction and blow up. Now there will be a ton of people making the stupid "stay classy" remark or he will have to give a half assed apology after the gay rights groups come out and comment.
Further proof that athletes should be seen and not heard. Ever.
yawn
Louis CK has a funny bit about the word flag.
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on July 09, 2011, 11:19:58 AM
When I saw Deadspin post that the other day I had a feeling that it would eventually gain traction and blow up. Now there will be a ton of people making the stupid "stay classy" remark or he will have to give a half assed apology after the gay rights groups come out and comment.
Between Kobe and someone else from the NBA (I forget who), athletes should pretty much know to stay away from using any type of slurs, especially gay slurs. DJax is pretty much on par with the rest of pro-athletes in terms of intelligence, so yeah, this is just par for the course really.
he apologized
who cares.
Quote from: BigEd76 on July 09, 2011, 11:13:25 AM
For some reason this is a top story on ESPN today:
QuoteDeSean Jackson's June 30 appearance on the All Out Show with Rude Jude and Lord Sear. (It airs on Sirius XM's Shade 45—an Eminem-branded hip hop channel)
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Troy in Tennessee asks if DeSean's "had his dick knocked in the dirt [indecipherable]," before the call ends. According to the invaluable Urban Dictionary, knocking one's dick in the dirt entails knocking someone down or out—maybe even giving someone a concussion?
Jackson replies, "What type of question is that? Say 'no homo', gay-ass. Faggot."
Now, we don't know whether DeSean assumed "dick in the dirt" was some sort of reference to gay stuff—it could be!—or whether DeSean was just particularly cranky then.
pretty sure if steve nash called someone a dumb ass stillupfront it would garner a top headline
10 days after it happened though?
pimps goat return is the #4 seed in the espy bracket for play of the year
I'd still vote for Marshawn Lynch's TD run
Kind of bullshtein that the ladies' soccer play from only a few days ago made the list. Only won due to the recency effect.
That said the Miracle at the New Meadowlands won game of the year, which made more sense. DeSean's runback was indeed "goat" but it wasn't the only amazing part of that game.
Quote from: FastFreddie on July 14, 2011, 08:32:59 AM
That said the Miracle at the New Meadowlands won game of the year, which made more sense. DeSean's runback was indeed "goat" but it wasn't the only amazing part of that game.
so who ended up winning the "most amazing play in a game where no other amazing things took place award" award
Ivan Drago, for his TKO of Apollo Creed
Quote from: ice grillin you on July 11, 2011, 10:32:23 AM
Quote from: BigEd76 on July 09, 2011, 11:13:25 AM
For some reason this is a top story on ESPN today:
QuoteDeSean Jackson's June 30 appearance on the All Out Show with Rude Jude and Lord Sear. (It airs on Sirius XM's Shade 45—an Eminem-branded hip hop channel)
.
.
Troy in Tennessee asks if DeSean's "had his dick knocked in the dirt [indecipherable]," before the call ends. According to the invaluable Urban Dictionary, knocking one's dick in the dirt entails knocking someone down or out—maybe even giving someone a concussion?
Jackson replies, "What type of question is that? Say 'no homo', gay-ass. Faggot."
Now, we don't know whether DeSean assumed "dick in the dirt" was some sort of reference to gay stuff—it could be!—or whether DeSean was just particularly cranky then.
pretty sure if steve nash called someone a dumb ass stillupfront it would garner a top headline
What is a "dumb ass stillupfront"?
Quote from: lurking wierdo on July 18, 2011, 08:38:15 AM
Quote from: ice grillin you on July 11, 2011, 10:32:23 AM
Quote from: BigEd76 on July 09, 2011, 11:13:25 AM
For some reason this is a top story on ESPN today:
QuoteDeSean Jackson's June 30 appearance on the All Out Show with Rude Jude and Lord Sear. (It airs on Sirius XM's Shade 45—an Eminem-branded hip hop channel)
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.
Troy in Tennessee asks if DeSean's "had his dick knocked in the dirt [indecipherable]," before the call ends. According to the invaluable Urban Dictionary, knocking one's dick in the dirt entails knocking someone down or out—maybe even giving someone a concussion?
Jackson replies, "What type of question is that? Say 'no homo', gay-ass. Faggot."
Now, we don't know whether DeSean assumed "dick in the dirt" was some sort of reference to gay stuff—it could be!—or whether DeSean was just particularly cranky then.
pretty sure if steve nash called someone a dumb ass stillupfront it would garner a top headline
What is a "dumb ass stillupfront"?
Do we still have to explain these things to you?
A dumb ass stillupfront is a stillupfront who is not very bright.
Quote from: FastFreddie on July 14, 2011, 09:32:34 PM
Ivan Drago, for his TKO of Apollo Creed
Fast Freddie...funniest man on the web nominee. I would ask to be your friend on facebook, but go fargyourself.
Vick said that DeSean probably won't show up tomorrow because he has some decisions to make
Looks like a holdout until they cake him off
The move and timing is spectacular. Good job Desean.
http://espn.go.com/blog/nfceast/post/_/id/28643/vick-hints-at-desean-jackson-holdout
I hope he holds out until the week before the first game. Avoid the camp or preseason injuries. Allow more reps for lesser guys. Win win.
Good for him. The Eagles should have had a contract extension waiting for him at the Nova Care first thing this morning.
its like you pick up all your opinions from a box of generic fan quotes
He's staying home to watch every episode of The Wire in order. Twice.
this was more of a certainty than cobb being dealt
pay this man whatever the hell he wants for however long he wants to be here..
the giants td last year grants him the right to dictate every and all terms.
Just cut him. He's cooked. Time to move on.
Quote from: DH on July 26, 2011, 12:26:06 PM
pay this man whatever the hell he wants for however long he wants to be here..
the giants td last year grants him the right to dictate every and all terms.
(http://cdn.bleacherreport.net/images_root/slideshows/179/slideshow_17973/display_image.jpg?x=765267)
farg that jew
QuoteVick hints at DeSean Jackson holdout
Jul 26 11:52AM ET
By Dan GrazianoMichael Vick addressed the media upon his arrival at Eagles training camp Tuesday morning, and the thing he said that's getting the most attention isn't about him. Vick was asked about wide receiver DeSean Jackson, and he told reporters at Lehigh that he didn't know whether Jackson would be reporting on time.
"He has things he has to think about," Vick said, according to Jeff McLane of the Philadelphia Inquirer.
It could continue to be an issue all year for the Eagles, who are now-focused while Jackson is future-focused. It is, of course, Jackson's contract, which is up at the end of the 2011 season and which he would apparently like extended before rather than after the season.
Now, don't get too worried, Eagles fans. This doesn't have to be an issue. This is only speculation from Vick, who has obviously talked to Jackson, about what Jackson might do. Jackson could show up Wednesday and say there's no problem. The Eagles could give him the extension and eliminate it from their list of 2011 concerns. But it could be an issue, and the Eagles have been aware of that for some time. They drafted Jeremy Maclin in the first round in 2009 in part because they believed he could develop into a No. 1 receiver if they were unable or unwilling to keep Jackson long-term, and there have been whispers around the team for the past couple of years that the looming Jackson contract situation could get complicated.
If Jackson does decide to hold out, it'll be interesting to see whether the Eagles dip into this year's very good free-agent receiver market -- either to gain leverage on him or put themselves in position to replace him if he decides to hit the market a year from now. Either way, Vick just hinted at an issue that could be a major one for the Eagles as they balance future concerns with their efforts to win this year's Super Bowl.
It's comments like this that seriously cause me to question the intelligence of sports writers as a whole. Seriously, there would be a backlash against the Eagles like you couldn't believe if they let Jackson walk.
except banner inc has shown time and time again tha tthey dont give a shtein about the fans or media or anyone else for that matter
i mean they let dawkins walk you really think these guys would give farg about a pimp backlash
Really, them letting Jackson walk should be expected by now. He's easily one of the top players in the NFL today, and they're not going to pay him like one.
from mclane's twitter, read backwards because im not copying and pasting in order:
Quote... if he stay away for a few days. As one player that is close to DeSean said, "It's his time to get paid."
16 minutes ago Favorite Retweet Reply
... So I think DeSean shows up tomorrow, sneaks in somehow, acts pissy to the media and makes his point. I would not be surprised, tho, ...
... vastly underpaid. But I'm not sure holding out is his best move with the #Eagles. Homies don't play that and Drew Rosenhaus knows it. ..
... every angle. He wasn't happy then and he's not happy now and a holdout was always in the cards. I'm not saying he's wrong. He's ...
... I took some heat for reporting then that DeSean was letting his contract situation become a distraction. But I had that story from ...
Random thought No. 2: This DeSean Jackson contract situation has been brewing for a long time and started to really heat up last Dec.
Quote from: MDS on July 26, 2011, 12:00:58 PM
its like you pick up all your opinions from a box of generic fan quotes
:-D
QuoteChrisJohnson28
Just got off the phone wit @DeseanJackson10 real recognize real #100
I guess they're planning their holdouts together
There are 136 WR's in the league that will make more than Pimp this year. That is a problem.
not to joe "nickles" banner it aint
The fact that the Eagles didn't have this resolved ten minutes after the lockout ended shows what a colossally inept group of iceholes they have running the front office.
I mean literally the first thing Lurie should have written as a postscript on the "yay, football is back" letter he sent out should have been this:
PS: We just re-signed DeSean Jackson making him one of the top five highest paid receivers in football.
Quote from: MDS on July 27, 2011, 06:28:21 PM
not to joe "nickles" banner it aint
Joey Nickels; I like it
so did someone on crossing broad today
ive never read that blog but it aint an original mds creation lets just say that
Quote from: Rome on July 27, 2011, 06:33:01 PM
The fact that the Eagles didn't have this resolved ten minutes after the lockout ended shows what a colossally inept group of iceholes they have running the front office.
I mean literally the first thing Lurie should have written as a postscript on the "yay, football is back" letter he sent out should have been this:
PS: We just re-signed DeSean Jackson making him one of the top five highest paid receivers in football.
I'll drink to that.
Quote from: MDS on July 27, 2011, 08:55:11 PM
ive never read that blog but it aint an original mds creation lets just say that
yes you do (or have)...its like the 3rd or 4th time ive noticed on the same day youve posted something here ive seen it over there in the comments sect
lol wow
NO. i dont know what to tell you.
Quote from: ice grillin you on July 27, 2011, 09:34:54 PM
Quote from: MDS on July 27, 2011, 08:55:11 PM
ive never read that blog but it aint an original mds creation lets just say that
yes you do (or have)...its like the 3rd or 4th time ive noticed on the same day youve posted something here ive seen it over there in the comments sect
That's all sorts of stalker-like there. lol
Quote from: PhillyGirl on July 27, 2011, 09:37:56 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on July 27, 2011, 09:34:54 PM
Quote from: MDS on July 27, 2011, 08:55:11 PM
ive never read that blog but it aint an original mds creation lets just say that
yes you do (or have)...its like the 3rd or 4th time ive noticed on the same day youve posted something here ive seen it over there in the comments sect
That's all sorts of stalker-like there. lol
how is it stalking....because i read CB and CF?
Quote from: PhillyGirl on July 27, 2011, 09:37:56 PMThat's all sorts of stalker-like there. lol
what, you don't monitor other :CF personas around the rest of the internet?
Hasn't shown yet, officially a holdout.
Great farging offseason...sort of makes me wish the lockout was still on.
They're not done yet. SunMo told me.
Relax. Howie and Joe have got this!
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some notables on the roster who will make more money this year than pimp
owen schmitt
king dunlap
sinorice moss
jon dorenbus
This holdout is just the icing on the cake of a zesty offseason.
stealing that awful information
The beginning of the league year was an unprecedented skirmish, and it only started two days ago. Even if the FO has it as ONE OF the top priorities to re-up DeSean (and Vick for that matter), there is a shteinload to do with shoring up the roster (signing picks, trades, FA acquisitions) that are much more time-sensitive than giving any players under contract a new one.
So while the FA signings aren't coming nearly as fast as we would like, the FO has signed 9 of 11 draft picks, signed 11 UDFA's, worked out most (if not all) the details of the Kolb deal, set up a quickie training camp in Lehigh, signed Babin, and is likely working on plenty of other things we somewhat suspect/hope for and others we wouldn't even guess.
Basically, it will take at least a week for DeSean's holdout to creep (a la the Braves) up to the top of the priority list. Then, we can only hope that he will be paid, even if the Banner/Reid regime usually gets quite vindictive during and after holdouts.
So my schtick is that DeSean is an absolute nimrod for expecting the Eagles to get him a shiny new contract inside the two days before training camp. I wouldn't blame him one bit for holding out if they had three months to cake him and still didn't. I hope for the best but can only assume that this will end poorly, as pretty much every other Eagles player holding out has.
it's pretty farging incredible that anybody out there would be against him in his holdout. but as i look at the comments on various articles, you have farging retarded people calling him selfish and that his "antics" don't deserve a new contract.
Quote from: SunMo on July 28, 2011, 11:33:33 AM
it's pretty farging incredible that anybody out there would be against him in his holdout. but as i look at the comments on various articles, you have farging retarded people calling him selfish and that his "antics" don't deserve a new contract.
Word. There's NO excuse for him to be going into the last year of his contract making 560K. I know all the BS with the CBA last year not allowing it to happen and that's fine... but these are they same guys that extend guys they think are players 2 years into their rookie contracts. Pimp should have been paid years ago.
I'm 100% on Jackson's side and if the Eagles had any sense whatsoever they would have had a contract waiting for him when the lockout was over. If Holmes is worth 5-$50 million then Jackson is worth at least that.
I think risking injury with that contract would be an awful idea. Wish Andy would have talked him in to coming to Philly, dropping his agent off at NovaCare, and feigning an injury to avoid most drill work. The short time frame here really sucks.
That said most pundits, locally and nationally, seem to agree that it is only a matter of time. Circle August 27, because if he doesn't show by then, he wouldn't get credit for this year of service.
So I will continue by hedge strategy here:
-don't blame Jackson for holding out, glad he's not risking injury on a zesty contract
-don't blame the Eagles for not getting it done yet due to circumstance
-hope to high heaven that this turns out better than every other holdout that has been staged since 1999
Quote from: SunMo on July 28, 2011, 11:33:33 AM
it's pretty farging incredible that anybody out there would be against him in his holdout. but as i look at the comments on various articles, you have farging retarded people calling him selfish and that his "antics" don't deserve a new contract.
a young brash black man about to make a lot of money?
im surprised anyone on the internet is for the holdout
and yeah holmes is a good baromometer...pimp is better but holmes was unrestricted so seems like his number is about right in this case
Have you seen or heard anyone who sides with the Eagles on this?
not necessarily siding with the eagles, but against jackson holding out
They're idiots then.
He needs to get his point across. If they had told him they were talking with Rosenhaus and they were exchanging numbers and whatnot, then yeah he should be in camp.
But they should have had the deal ready to sign yesterday night. But its not surprising. The FO are a buncha arrogant fargs so they will dig their heels in.
I understand a lot of criticism of the FO, but I really don't understand the criticism of them not getting a massive extension done for a player already under contract in the first few hurried days of league business. It could get ugly before it's resolved, for sure, but blame the lockout/CBA and not one side or the other here. Also, I give credit to both sides for refusing to launch a war of words in the media. It's a good sign that this could end well.
Seriously, how many underpaid players who weren't yet free agents got caked by their current teams already this off-season?
banner went out of his way to stress how many FO people the eagles had penciled in to work EVERY angle of this crazy period in the nfl...but he doesnt have one to satisfy the needs of one of his very best players?...plus its not like the eagles are overly busy gobbling up free agents
so i dont buy the "we have other things to do" angle
sounds like to me the eagles arent overly interested in extending him...could be that btwn his concussions and his size that they dont believe he has a long shelf life and doesnt warrant big money....we will find out for sure in the next week....because it appears as tho they are gonna have a shteinload of money they will need to spend....how does he not get caked off in the next few days?
Quote from: ice grillin you on July 28, 2011, 12:30:10 PM
Quote from: SunMo on July 28, 2011, 11:33:33 AM
it's pretty farging incredible that anybody out there would be against him in his holdout. but as i look at the comments on various articles, you have farging retarded people calling him selfish and that his "antics" don't deserve a new contract.
a young brash black man about to make a lot of money?
im surprised anyone on the internet is for the holdout
and yeah holmes is a good baromometer...pimp is better but holmes was unrestricted so seems like his number is about right in this case
I am actually for the hold out. He's be dumb to report and risk injury. The CBA does address the non-guaranteed contracts in the NFL, but as his is "only" 565,000 this year, I don't know how he would be affected.
Quote from: FastFreddie on July 28, 2011, 12:52:45 PM
I understand a lot of criticism of the FO, but I really don't understand the criticism of them not getting a massive extension done for a player already under contract in the first few hurried days of league business.
i think if their intent was to sign him after things died down then hed be in camp...the fact that hes under contract and not showing up tells me the eagles have sent him messages that are not coming close to satisfying him or his agent...remember this contract situation goes back to before even last year...this is not something new that the eagles couldnt have addressed one way or another...even if it was nothing more than to say look desean you are getting your money and getting it before the season starts just come on in
imo they dont have a huge desire to resign him for anywhere close to what the market would dictate...but thats just me....hopefully im way off and he signs next week
The Eagles not taking care of Jackson is like a person who buys a house with a hole in the roof painting the floor trim first. And then cleaning the oven. And then weeding the garden. And then... well, you get the point.
They're farging stupid. Period.
You're both right, and I now finally see that there is no logic available to dispute it. None. Banner should have an entire team of accountants and lawyers working on every possible facet at once, and/or the FO should have gone whole hog on re-upping DeSean instead of bothering with addressing anything else first. Duh. How stupid I've been.
no you make a good point....i guess they needed all those people to sign jason babin...and for the past year and a half all those people were prepping for the signing of jason babin
Getting an extension done for Jackson absolutely should have been concern # 1a after trading Kolb.
I don't see how anything else comes close.
Quote from: Rome on July 28, 2011, 01:54:57 PM
Getting an extension done for Jackson absolutely should have been concern # 1a after trading Kolb.
I don't see how anything else comes close.
Even if you're right, the Kolb deal still ain't done.
Which exposes their ineptitude even further.
Have to agree there. Kolb deal, assuming it does indeed happen with Arizona, should have been wrapped within 48 hours tops.
an army of accountants and lawyers given the most time to prepare in the history of the league...not having to have put any time into their own free agents and a public promise from banner inc to pounce out of the gate has brought jason babin in the first three days of FA
don't forget they signed a rookie kicker named Henery and a rookie punter named Henry
Quote from: FastFreddie on July 28, 2011, 02:01:22 PM
Have to agree there. Kolb deal, assuming it does indeed happen with Arizona, should have been wrapped within 48 hours tops.
Why?
Another way to look at it is let's get the unknowns out of the way and then wrap up Jackson. If he's a couple weeks late to camp, so what? They don't need him sweating off any of his 150lbs in August.
Yes, that is indeed "another" way of looking at this. No one here, especially not me, has said exactly that already.
lol at calling the cobb trade an unknown
Quote from: FastFreddie on July 28, 2011, 03:00:49 PM
Yes, that is indeed "another" way of looking at this. No one here, especially not me, has said exactly that already.
But why did the Kolb deal need to be done yesterday> What was of such importance?
it didnt
It is mildly encouraging that neither Andy nor Howie are taking any shots at DeSean in the press.
Does anyone really believe Jackson is going to miss a game that counts? The dude will be paid when the Birds know how much they have to spend under the cap.
F him. He signed the contract, he should stand by his word. MeSean.
Quote from: PhillyPhanInDC on July 28, 2011, 07:04:43 PM
F him. He signed the contract, he should stand by his word. MeSean.
wow. i knew people like you existed but jesus christ.
pretty sure hes joking
Yep
should i read 8 pages of old bullshtein to make sure?
Quote from: MDS on July 28, 2011, 07:13:17 PM
should i read 8 pages of old bullshtein to make sure?
Yes
Quote from: MDS on July 28, 2011, 07:13:17 PM
should i read 8 pages of old bullshtein to make sure?
Instead of supplying it for a change...
Quote from: Feva on July 28, 2011, 07:20:30 PM
Quote from: MDS on July 28, 2011, 07:13:17 PM
should i read 8 pages of old bullshtein to make sure?
Instead of supplying it for a change...
lolol
black on black crime here
I was joking. But I am curious what he meant by "people like you".
Instead of reading back, how back we just have Dio dig a ditch for you to crawl into and die?
Quote from: Feva on July 28, 2011, 07:20:30 PM
Quote from: MDS on July 28, 2011, 07:13:17 PM
should i read 8 pages of old bullshtein to make sure?
Instead of supplying it for a change...
haha
Quote from: PhillyPhanInDC on July 28, 2011, 07:25:02 PM
I was joking. But I am curious what he meant by "people like you".
Upon moving to Brownsville, he converted to Hispanicism.
im 30% jew, 50% black and 99% mexican now
Math skills not from the Jewish minority.
Quote from: MDS on July 28, 2011, 07:59:51 PM
im 30% jew, 50% black and 99% mexican now
Senor Hebro
Quote from: MDS on July 28, 2011, 07:59:51 PM
im 30% jew, 50% black and 99% mexican now
You're going to have smokin' hot daughters!
Quote from: Don Ho on July 28, 2011, 10:15:08 PM
Quote from: MDS on July 28, 2011, 07:59:51 PM
im 30% jew, 50% black and 99% mexican now
You're going to have smokin' hot daughters!
Or unemployed gay sons?
He is alive and well. And tweeting:
QuoteDeseanJackson10
CONGRATS TO MY BIG BRO 21 NNAMBI ASOMUGHA FOR BECOMING A EAGLE!! #CAL
Did Pimp farg one of Warren Sapp's girlfriends or something?
He has been ripping him for not showing up
Sapp gets it. He is an entertainer. Will say whatever he can to make himself more interesting.
Action News reporting he'll end his holdout and arrive tomorrow or Tuesday despite rejecting the Eagles' most recent offer
Any word on what their lowball offer was?
$1m per year with endless supply of crab fries!
Quote from: FastFreddie on July 31, 2011, 06:45:29 PM
$1m per year with endless supply of crab fries!
That wouldn't work, anyway. Reno Mahe's in jail.
They'll smuggle the fries out in Reid Jr's ass.
QuoteContrary to a report from 6abc.com in Philly, we're told that Eagles receiver DeSean Jackson does not intend to end his holdout without a new contract on Monday or Tuesday.
Jackson faces fines in the amount of $30,000 per day for holding out while under contract. If anything, the events of the past few days — featuring big-money contracts given by the Eagles to cornerback Nnamdi Asomugha, defensive end Jason Babin, and defensive lineman Cullen Jenkins — would tend to make DeSean's resolve to get his new contract even stronger.
A real question remains regarding the date on which Jackson would lose a year of credit toward free agency. The Transition Rules approved last week by the NFLPA provide that any player under contract must show up 23 days after the start of the 2011 League Year, which would put the deadline in late August. However, the official NFL calendar identifies the deadline as August 9. We asked the NFL for clarification on Thursday, and we're waiting for a final answer.
If Jackson doesn't show up in time to get a year of credit toward free agency, it won't matter if he fulfills the final year of his contract by showing up before Week 10. Next March, he would have only three years of service toward free agency, and he would be a restricted free agent.
Thus, whatever the deadline for getting a year of credit toward free agency, it's safe to say that Jackson will show up by then
Roob Frank agrees with the Skversky report
Eskin also confirms the report, saying the Eagles won't negotiate any further until he shows up at camp. He says pimp is looking for 5/$60M
Pay him, Joe.
yeah, but not 5 years/60 Mil. That's ridiculous. He should get Holmes money at most.
You don't think he's worth 60 mil over 5 yrs? I do but still he'll probably be closer to 50. He's gonna' get better and I think Pimp and Vick will be hooking up a whole lot this year 'cause they should be more comfortable playing together.
5/60 would make him the highest paid WR by quite a large margin. They shouldn't have to pay a guy who disappears as often as Jackson does an extra $1 or $2 million a year over what Andre Johnson or Larry Fitzgerald makes. Pay the man, and pay him well, make him the highest paid WR if you have to. But 5/60 is a bit of a ridiculous asking price, and if Rosenhaus is serious about that number (and if Eskin is actually right about it), I could see these negotiations lasting a while.
Quote from: QB Eagles on August 01, 2011, 07:21:55 AM
5/60 would make him the highest paid WR by quite a large margin. They shouldn't have to pay a guy who disappears as often as Jackson does an extra $1 or $2 million a year over what Andre Johnson or Larry Fitzgerald makes. Pay the man, and pay him well, make him the highest paid WR if you have to. But 5/60 is a bit of a ridiculous asking price, and if Rosenhaus is serious about that number (and if Eskin is actually right about it), I could see these negotiations lasting a while.
Agreed
It's all about guaranteed money these days. 5/60 doesn't matter much IMO, if the guaranteed dollars are under $15m or so. The thing is... to PREVENT DJax from "disappearing" from time to time, you want as big a disparity as possible between his guaranteed money and total money.
Frankly, I think the Eagles would go something like 5/60 in a New York minute if he'd take less than 25% of that guaranteed. But I assume Rosenhaus wants that guaranteed money over $20m.
cobb got 5/63 for throwing three more ints than td's and a lot of the td's went to pimp
Agree completely. QB's get more money than WR's by a big clip (and for good reason), but DeSean is an elite gamechanger and Kolb is not (at least not yet).
But again, it's the guaranteed money. Kolb got $21-$22m or so. No doubt that is the vicinity of what Rosenhaus wants for Pimp.
A wr no matter how good isnt getting starting qb money
Pretty sure that's Banner's stance on the matter.
Quote from: Drunkmasterflex on August 01, 2011, 09:19:55 AM
A wr no matter how good isnt getting starting qb money
cobb isnt a starting qb
Lol at people comparing Holmes to Jackson. I'd pay Jackson a bunch more. One, he's younger, two never off field problems, and three Pump is a game change in multiple phases of the game. He's worth more than Holmes by quite a large margin, and taken as a whole he is obviously one of the top 5 most dynamic young players in the game. Cake him off, make him ridiculously happy for years.
Quote from: PhillyPhanInDC on August 01, 2011, 10:13:39 AM
Lol at people comparing Holmes to Jackson. I'd pay Jackson a bunch more. One, he's younger, two never off field problems, and three Pump is a game change in multiple phases of the game. He's worth more than Holmes by quite a large margin, and taken as a whole he is obviously one of the top 5 most dynamic young players in the game. Cake him off, make him ridiculously happy for years.
i agree....even when he "disappears" hes still making the team better.....defensive coordinators are not game planning for santonio holmes
the one big difference tho is that holmes was a free agent....pimp is under contract....but still cake him off now so you dont get completely bludgeoned in the spring
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QuoteThe NFL pushed for August 9, and the NFLPA wanted the date to be, as specified in the Transition Rules proposed by the NFL, 23 days after the start of the 2011 League Year.
And the preferred deadline goes to . . . the NFL.
Per a source with knowledge of the situation, players under contract must report by August 9 or forfeit a year of service toward free agency.
This means that Eagles receiver DeSean Jackson must report by August 9, or he won't be an unrestricted free agent in March 2012. Although he'll complete the final year of his four-year contract if he shows up by Week 10 of the regular season, he'd have only three years of service — and he's be a restricted free agent.
And the penny drops. Better get your ass to camp DeSean.
Quote from: TexasEagle on August 04, 2011, 11:18:37 PM
And the penny drops. Better get your ass to camp DeSean.
Better get there by Tuesday.
fargin' a, why don't the Eagles just throw a shtein ton of money at him and shut up
Quote from: Diomedes on August 06, 2011, 10:05:33 AM
every time I see DeSean's thread bumped I expect to read that the Eagles just made him the highest paid WR in the world
Sucker
bump
in other news, Jackson will report on Monday:
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/08/06/report-desean-will-show-up-in-camp-monday/
Dio breaking the news!
its either saturday afternoon or easy died
Tim McManus just had an update saying the sides really aren't that far apart and that it's possible that Desean agrees to a contract that doesn't start until next season, meaning he's willing to play one year under this zesty deal as long as a new deal is guaranteed for him next season.
Doubt they'd really do that, though. They'll give the guy a nugget of love as soon as they agree.
My buddy just saw DeSean, complete with police escort, at PHL.
**Now reporters confirming it. And he's got Drew Rosenhaus in tow.
Front lawn press conference forthcoming?
Next question.
I'm going to take the positive approach to this news and say he's here because they're finalizing the parameters of his new deal.
if august 9th wasnt an important date for him and the fines werent so heavy this year he would still be chillin in cali. so all in all the holdout made absolutely no sense--and never does with the eagles.
but I like the positivity none-the-less.
The one thing we've all learned (yet shockingly the players seemed to have missed) over the years is you never make threats against those iceholes if you aren't willing to go all the way.
It was an exercise in utter futility.
False. It was a week of practice where he wasn't getting injured or banged around. The role players and fringe guys got some reps. This isn't some rookie who needed to learn the playbook. He can miss the next several weeks for all I care. He tried to make a point, he didn't. Oh well. He also didn't get hurt which, as a fan, is all I really give a shtein about.
He tried to make a point? We all love Jackson and want him to get paid, but how do you even make that excuse for one of the most ass backward attempted holdouts ever.
And it's not even a matter of him not getting hurt in the last 10 days because he could get hurt this Thursday running wind sprints on the sidelines. Ha-at the role and fringe WR's getting 10 days of practice reps.
the holdout was perfect...he didnt get fined nor lose his year of service and got to miss 10 days of bethlehem...and will still get caked off in a new deal...in fact it might have been one of the smartest holdouts ever
Quote from: reese125 on August 08, 2011, 08:23:11 AM
one of the most ass backward attempted holdouts ever
Um, false. So, the shortened league year really hurt his bargaining power, yes. But his point WAS made, everyone now knows how underpaid he is and almost universally agrees he should get some cake ASAP, and he didn't hurt his teammates at all.
If you want "ass backward," look no further than TO. He was one year into a shiny new 7-year deal, and he started all the bullshtein. Yes, his deal turned out to be under market value, but he wasn't making anywhere close to the league minimum, and it's not like the Eagles or anyone else forced him to hire that inept Joseph guy as his agent in the first place.
DeSean Jackson is one of the rare players that is a threat to break the game open on every play, and he makes the league minimum under his initial 2nd round rookie deal. Also, he's tiny and will always be at risk of injury. Speaking from the POV of a guy who thinks MOST players should shut up and play, I think this is one of the most justified holdouts ever - and certainly the most justified of any Eagle player in recent memory.
It was no secret he was underpaid last year and management knew this. No way the Eagles go into this season not paying him. They most likely had a business plan put together with all these FA signings and had to know how much to spend on him.
I highly doubt his teammates are high fiving him when he gets there today and says, "smart move homie you really showed them", when he HAD to be there regardless. That's why he accomplished nothing.
players despise training camp...missing ten days of it with no resulting penalties is something every player there would give a high five over
Quote from: ice grillin you on August 08, 2011, 08:29:45 AM
the holdout was perfect...he didnt get fined nor lose his year of service and got to miss 10 days of bethlehem...and will still get caked off in a new deal...in fact it might have been one of the smartest holdouts ever
Correct! Also, he didn't try to negotiate through the press or bad mouth ownership or management. He has handled negotiations like a business man. Smart work there. It really proves that Rosenhaus isn't as big an icehole as TO kind of forced him to be.
rosenhaus has had a thousand clients and none have ever done what TO did...nor do they cause any more trouble than any other agents players...the negative perception of rosenhaus is way overblown...always has been
Quote from: ice grillin you on August 08, 2011, 09:09:46 AM
rosenhaus has had a thousand clients and none have ever done what TO did...nor do they cause any more trouble than any other agents players...the negative perception of rosenhaus is way overblown...always has been
Agreed. He had to protect his client in the TO situation. Deflection of criticism is a valid response.
Quote from: ice grillin you on August 08, 2011, 09:09:46 AM
rosenhaus has had a thousand clients and none have ever done what TO did...nor do they cause any more trouble than any other agents players...the negative perception of rosenhaus is way overblown...always has been
Leave it to you to defend a POS like Drew Rosenhaus.
Jesus...
http://www.grantland.com/story/_/id/6847210/desean-jackson-eagles
stat heads trying to ruin football now
they will never be able to do that to this sport thank god because there is no formula they can come up with to quantify how many balls other people catch because hes on the field
football unlike baseball is such a team game with so many moving parts all relying on each other that seamheads can never touch it
That 'analysis' of Jackson completely eliminates what Jackson does for others on the field. Jackson is routinely shaded by safeties over the top, opening up the middle of the field for Maclin/Celek etc, and also potentially clears the box for McCoy.
So Santonio Holmes has a 1.6% higher catch rate than Jackson and he got $24 mill guaranteed.
Did this guy write an article how Holmes was overpaid by the Jets cause I missed it?
im not even going to read it
stats can break down ryan howard's chances of getting a hit in a certain spot. stats cant breakdown what pimp jackson does on the field. no point in even trying.
Stats can tell the tale to a certain extent, but there are intangibles good/great players bring that can't be put on a stat sheet. Pimp is such a rare talent that he makes every skill position player on the field better just from stepping on it. Holmes ain't doing it like the Pimp. If he isn't the fastest man in the game then he's one of 'em. That has to figure into any contract he gets. Also, when you watch him return punts, it's like he has a 7Th sense were to run. When he dropped the one against the Giants, I lost my breath, but when he picked it up it was like he instantly knew how to bust it. If anything looking at it now it was a good thing he dropped it because it faked out the whole Giant return team. And let's not forget the opening TD in the complete distruction of the taterskins. You wanna' talk shtein before the game to the Pimp? You could end up eatin' shtein before it's all over.
If the Eagles are stupid or hardheaded enough to ever let him hit the open market, teams will be emptying their bank accounts to get him
I don't think the problem is trying to use stats to determine Jackson's worth. The problem is using stats retardedly, which that article does in spades.
To answer reese's question, the same hack wrote about Holmes (http://www.grantland.com/story/_/id/6811987/the-revis-asomugha-archipelago-cannibals-money), and he praised Holmes' catch rate.
Also, Grantland is pretentious trash.
Quote from: QB Eagles on August 10, 2011, 05:50:52 PM
I don't think the problem is trying to use stats to determine Jackson's worth. The problem is using stats retardedly, which that article does in spades.
To answer reese's question, the same hack wrote about Holmes (http://www.grantland.com/story/_/id/6811987/the-revis-asomugha-archipelago-cannibals-money), and he praised Holmes' catch rate.
Also, Grantland is pretentious trash.
Bill Simmons is so full of himself nowadays... that moustache he's been rocking on PTI is just confusing.
He looks like the "bacon neck" dude in the Hanes commercials.
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on August 10, 2011, 07:10:04 PM
He looks like the "bacon neck" dude in the Hanes commercials.
Wow.. he really does.
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Quote from: shorebird on August 10, 2011, 01:26:37 PM
Stats can tell the tale to a certain extent, but there are intangibles good/great players bring that can't be put on a stat sheet. Pimp is such a rare talent that he makes every skill position player on the field better just from stepping on it. Holmes ain't doing it like the Pimp. If he isn't the fastest man in the game then he's one of 'em. That has to figure into any contract he gets. Also, when you watch him return punts, it's like he has a 7Th sense were to run. When he dropped the one against the Giants, I lost my breath, but when he picked it up it was like he instantly knew how to bust it. If anything looking at it now it was a good thing he dropped it because it faked out the whole Giant return team. And let's not forget the opening TD in the complete distruction of the taterskins. You wanna' talk shtein before the game to the Pimp? You could end up eatin' shtein before it's all over.
If the Eagles are stupid or hardheaded enough to ever let him hit the open market, teams will be emptying their bank accounts to get him
that's exactly true. i'm not saying that's the only reason he busted it, but it was definitely a main reason. if you ever played football one of the first things you learn is "ball" when there's a fumble and to go after it. once it was fumbled most broke their lanes and went for the ball.
in regards to the stats, they have some merit.. but you can't measure overall football ability. he makes the entire offense better not only because he is fast, but because he can play basically any skill position on the offense. they have to game plan for him to play rb, wr, wildcat etc.. basically line up anywhere on the field and he's able to score from there at any time as well. in short pay the motherfarger. he's just ridiculous.
Quote from: Hawk on August 10, 2011, 07:11:10 PM
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on August 10, 2011, 07:10:04 PM
He looks like the "bacon neck" dude in the Hanes commercials.
Wow.. he really does.
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well both are white and have moustaches but they look nothing alike...commercial dood is straight MA jeff foxworthy clone
Quote"Pay that man! Pay that man! Pay that man!" – Chants from the crowd after Jackson's one-on-one catch against Samuel.
How awesome is this! This could might already be my favorite Eagle ever.
Stop it you little bitches, he's not hurt. Just a funny reminder that Pimp ain't just a nickname...
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dook pisses pimp juice
Fatburger in AC is consistently a shtein show when MurMur lets out.
QuoteJackson: Fitzgerald Different Type Of WR
By Bo Wulf
Posted 45 minutes ago
Eagles Pro Bowl wide receiver DeSean Jackson is preparing for the season ahead with his training camp absence behind him. Jackson, who missed 11 days of camp, is hoping for a new contract, but he has pledged to be focused solely on football.
On Saturday night, another Pro Bowl wide receiver, Larry Fitzgerald of the Arizona Cardinals received a new contract of his own, reportedly worth $120 million over eight years, making him one of the highest paid players in the league. Shortly after news of the contract broke, Jackson tweeted his congratulations to his friend Fitzgerald.
"Congrats to my Big bro @LarryFitzgerald!! Well deserved.. Wideouts ballin!!," Jackson tweeted.
But after Monday's practice, Jackson said his congratulations had little to do with his own contract search.
"He got a contract, so of course that's a good friend of mine, I'm going to congratulate him," Jackson said.
Jackson added that comparisons between he and Fitzgerald are unfair because they're different types of receivers and Fitzgerald is entering his eighth season in the league, while Jackson is entering his fourth.
In Jackson's three seasons, he's averaged 57 catches, 1,041 receiving yards and six touchdowns. Over that same three-year span, Fitzgerald has notched an average of 93 catches for 1,220 yards and just over 10 touchdowns per season.
"The things he's done, he's been in the league of course a longer time than me," said Jackson. "It's his third deal. So as far as him being a different player than myself, comparing the type of receivers we are, he's a totally different type of receiver than I am. So we don't compare as far as receiver wise.
"He's a good player. He's one of the top receivers in the NFL like myself, so of course when it comes down to that, yeah, but money-wise or stats-wise, I don't compare any of that stuff. I just take care of what I have to take care of."
Jackson said "We don't know yet, we'll see," when asked if there has been any progress on a new contract with the Eagles, but emphasized that his focus remains on the field, where he does consider himself to be among the league's elite.
"Growing up I kind of looked up to Jerry Rice and Michael Irvin," he said. "But as far as receivers right now in the NFL, I don't really look up to any of them. I respect their game. There are a couple of great receivers out there. I just consider myself to be one of the best wide receivers in the NFL."
Call me cynical but when you start seeing PR bullshtein like this it's time to start looking for a new jersey to wear.
So long, Pimp. It's been real, buddy.
So him saying good things about Fitz/a bunch of nothing about his own shtein instead of tearing into the Eagles FO in public means he's def not coming back?
I don't usually hop on the old crabby person joke train but damn romey....I think you're reading into it just a bit too much.
You're cynical.
They've done it before is all I'm saying.
Where the farg is his extension???
Not coming. It was never coming.
If Pimp is looking for upwards of $45 million in guaranteed money, he can keep looking.
$45 million guaranteed? He'd be lucky to get that total. If he gets 25 million guaranteed he's done well.
This is getting rediculous. I know he's under contract and I've said before that players should honor their contracts, but c'mon. The guys one of if not the most underpaid player in the league. This is bordering on insulting. What the hell is the FO thinking, are the trying to piss him off?? It's like they're saying, WE HAVE THE POWER!. I mean, are you kiddin' me?! This is the last player they want to do this too. Friggen' Eagles FO! I never really hated them but I'm starting to now. If they end up losing pimp at the end of the year then fans should burn the linc down.
Get yo' napalm ready
CONSPIRACY ALERT!
DeSean refused to talk to reporters after practice today. The Eagles actually had one of their staffers on hand to assist with waving off the media.
Is he next?
Surprise twist! They're totally trading him.
Les Bowen said he seemed nervous.
Desean Jackson doesn't strike me as the type of guy who gets nervous
yeah pimp hand be strong
Well, it's something at least:
Quote"Getting into the specifics can only be counter-productive," said Banner. "We think that DeSean is a great player and we're lucky to have him and we appreciate that he's here now and working as hard as he is. Anything else beyond that is just not good for the process, which is what I have to be focused on."
Quote from: Rome on August 30, 2011, 06:04:36 PM
Well, it's something at least:
Quote"Getting into the specifics can only be counter-productive," said Banner. "We think that DeSean is a great player and we're lucky to have him and we appreciate that he's here now and working as hard as he is. Anything else beyond that is just not good for the process, which is what I have to be focused on."
It's straight forward and I prefer it to Reid's double talk and bs.
Only thing I want to hear on the subject is that he's finally been extended. Anything other than that is just public posturing on the part of the FO.
Spadaro
QuoteI think that the front office understands the importance of the deal. As I said, though, it's a complicated negotiation. I would be very, very surprised if something isn't done in the next week, but I'm just guessing.
I'm in DeSean's shoes, I don't come close to risking injury. That's why it's so vital that they get this done before the season starts. They might be greedy arrogant pricks, but they're not stupid, so it stands to reason it will.
TO recommends DeSean shouldn't play Sunday. Also says he'd love to come back to Philly (http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/09/06/t-o-says-desean-shouldnt-show-up-on-sunday/)
He's got to be kidding.
He's gotta stay relevant somehow....stirring up some shtein is his game
If a contract isn't signed before 1:00 on Sunday, then yes, Jackson should not play.
Howie and Joe were busy on that Akeem Jordan extension! Cut 'em a break!
I honestly don't care if Desean plays or not. They won't need him Sunday anyway. I was referring to T.O. coming back to Philly.
If anyone ever deserved to die in a fiery crash on the Schuylkill, it's that POS.
Quote from: Rome on September 06, 2011, 10:00:10 PM
I honestly don't care if Desean plays or not. They won't need him Sunday anyway. I was referring to T.O. coming back to Philly.
If anyone ever deserved to die in a fiery crash on the Schuylkill, it's that POS.
I'm glad you're more of an optimist than I about Sunday. I think the Eagles more likely win but it wouldn't surprise me one bit if they lose by 10 points.
As for TO dying in a fiery (thanks, just learned how to spell that word) crash, you have to admit it would be awesome to see some televised ab crunches on the gurney before his last breath. I would actually go back to being a TO fan.
Quote from: Diomedes on September 06, 2011, 09:55:18 PM
If a contract isn't signed before 1:00 on Sunday, then yes, Jackson should not play.
Normally, I'd say that he's under contract, he should play. But I'm starting to change my mind with the Pimp situation. When you look at the deal the Eagles have been getting the past two years with no more than they've been paying him, (no doubt it's been the best return on an investment any team in the NFL has had), it makes me think they should do the right thing and pay the man. He hasn't said boo about it, he came to camp, he's seen Vick get his monster contract, it's time. And it should happen before the game on Sunday.
If Pimp goes out and gets hurt on Sunday, he's not "taken care of" in any sense of the phrase.
They need to get him a contract extension, a fair one, or I agree with TO.
Now, pardon me while I go shower that last part of the sentence off of me. :paranoid
Mikey Miss threw him a softball and he took it. No one is a bigger TO hater than me, but he did nothing wrong in saying what he said. Miss asked him if he would play this week if he were Desean and he said he wouldn't - what would you expect him to say?
He also said playing here was the best year and a half of his career. I cant take anything this man says seriously.
Quote from: PhillyGirl on September 07, 2011, 08:05:51 AM
Now, pardon me while I go shower that last part of the sentence off of me. :paranoid
Pics?
Guess somebody had to say it...
You can always count on me to class up the joint, Feva.
Quote from: Eagaholic on September 06, 2011, 10:22:58 PM
Quote from: Rome on September 06, 2011, 10:00:10 PM
I honestly don't care if Desean plays or not. They won't need him Sunday anyway. I was referring to T.O. coming back to Philly.
If anyone ever deserved to die in a fiery crash on the Schuylkill, it's that POS.
I'm glad you're more of an optimist than I about Sunday. I think the Eagles more likely win but it wouldn't surprise me one bit if they lose by 10 points.
granted much of it is that i want them so badly to win that im looking at it as a win win bet but i think im gonna take the rams in my survivor pool
but also i honestly do think st louis will win the game....eagles are gonna be really bad early in the season
I think Vick is gonna go bananas on Sunday and I think the defense is gonna shut the Rams down.
Granted Andy is a spazz in opening games but I think we're going to be pleasantly surprised.
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thats if Vick even has time to go bananas. youre completely underestimating the d-line of the rams. they had 43 sacks last year and they are going against a piss poor o-line that hasnt even had a close amount of time to get in sync yet.
take it to the other side of the ball for the rams with Bradford loving the shotgun and spreading the LB's out, he could have a field day with hard knocks wonder boy amendola and te kendricks.
its going to be sloppy and close with the edge going to the rams at home here--just on the pure fact the o-line is such a mess right now.
Not really big news but April said he is the primary PR, unless he is gassed.
In which case they'll go for an all-out block and not even put someone back there, I hope.
maclin
No. Too valuable to the offense.
IMO DeSean adds almost as much value to the team as a returner as he does as a WR. Maclin is more valuable as a WR. I don't want to see him back there returning anything, ever.
I agree, but that is what the coaching staff has said.
Quote from: FastFreddie on September 08, 2011, 12:14:40 PM
IMO DeSean adds almost as much value to the team as a returner as he does as a WR.
ummmm absolutely farging not....especially with no one going to kick to him this year....he might have one return per game...at the wr position he is affecting the game on just about every play
that said he should never not be the full time PR
Quote from: ice grillin you on September 08, 2011, 12:55:08 PM
Quote from: FastFreddie on September 08, 2011, 12:14:40 PM
IMO DeSean adds almost as much value to the team as a returner as he does as a WR.
ummmm absolutely farging not....especially with no one going to kick to him this year....he might have one return per game...at the wr position he is affecting the game on just about every play
The fact that teams will kick away from him still has a positive impact for the Eagles. Any time a punter tries to kick for the sidelines there's an increased chanced that he'll shank it off the side of his foot and it'll be a 25 yard punt when it goes oob, thus giving the Eagles improved field position. It would basically be the same as a 45 yd punt and 20 yd return. It won't happen every time obviously, but the potential is there more so than normal just by having him back there.
Quote from: Sgt PSN on September 08, 2011, 01:11:00 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on September 08, 2011, 12:55:08 PM
Quote from: FastFreddie on September 08, 2011, 12:14:40 PM
IMO DeSean adds almost as much value to the team as a returner as he does as a WR.
ummmm absolutely farging not....especially with no one going to kick to him this year....he might have one return per game...at the wr position he is affecting the game on just about every play
The fact that teams will kick away from him still has a positive impact for the Eagles. Any time a punter tries to kick for the sidelines there's an increased chanced that he'll shank it off the side of his foot and it'll be a 25 yard punt when it goes oob, thus giving the Eagles improved field position. It would basically be the same as a 45 yd punt and 20 yd return. It won't happen every time obviously, but the potential is there more so than normal just by having him back there.
so the 1% chance that a kicker shanks a punt (something that might happen once the entire season if at all) makes him more important on special teams?
sound theory
How is this guy not re-signed to a new deal?
Also - he had a whopping 20 returns last year in 14 games. Yeah, he's a weapon out there but that's 20 times he could have gotten murdered too. If they need a miracle, send him in there. Otherwise, NO.
I think the whole pr getting murdered is overrated....how many times do you see people get killed and their season ended on punt returns
Quote from: Drunkmasterflex on September 08, 2011, 02:45:29 PM
I think the whole pr getting murdered is overrated....how many times do you see people get killed and their season ended on punt returns
pretty much never
romey is pretty funny because he says how little pimp actually returns the ball on punts but yet says its too dangerous
why someone wouldnt want their teams best weapons on the field whenever possible is beyond me...especially when that weapon is retardedly good
hell why not just rotate vick with VY while were at it
Quote from: ice grillin you on September 08, 2011, 02:49:32 PM
hell why not just rotate vick with VY while were at it
Right, because the Eagles aren't stupid enough to rotate the QBs.
pimp should just fair catch everything until he has a new deal
Quote from: SunMo on September 08, 2011, 03:34:17 PM
pimp should just fair catch everything until he has a new deal
Yep. I'm not one to side with a player very often, but this is ridiculous. They tried to pay Ryan Harris $2 million, over 3 times what DeSean makes.
Stephen A. Smith said it pretty good yesterday on 105.7 the fan in B-more. Pretty much called out the Eagles front office, basically saying that they just shouldn't put him out there for six hundred grand and talked about how good a player Pimp is.
audio (http://baltimore.cbslocal.com/2011/09/08/espns-stephen-a-smith/)
You have to listen to him talk about Joe Flacco first but it's an interesting outlook on the situation.
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I still can't believe be played without getting paid. The guy is being a lot more generous to the Eagles than they will ever be to him.
I believe he gets a $30k/day fine if he does hold out and Rosenhaus knows what to expect by now holding Eagles out.
Quote from: Eagaholic on September 11, 2011, 08:53:45 PM
I believe he gets a $30k/day fine if he does hold out and Rosenhaus knows what to expect by now holding Eagles out.
He would also forfeit this season meaning he'd still be property of the Eagles next season (they wouldn't have to franchise him).
Quote from: Diomedes on September 11, 2011, 08:39:08 PM
I still can't believe be played without getting paid. The guy is being a lot more generous to the Eagles than they will ever be to him.
Yeah he's underpaid and I hope he gets a new deal, but he's still paid a hell of a lot more money than the average Joe and all for playing a game. There are a lot of Doctors who wish they had his zesty deal . Sure they're not risking their neck on the football field but their job is a million times more important than Deseans.
Let's see if they add any new veterans after week 1 - then they pretty much only have one order of business.
Yeah, extending Shady.
Quote from: SD on September 11, 2011, 08:59:49 PM
Yeah he's underpaid and I hope he gets a new deal, but he's still paid a hell of a lot more money than the average Joe and all for playing a game. There are a lot of Doctors who wish they had his zesty deal . Sure they're not risking their neck on the football field but their job is a million times more important than Deseans.
average joe in his case is lets say owen schmitt or king dunlop....who both make the same amount as pimp
Never understand why someone compares a professional athlete (elite no less) to the rest of america's working class when it comes to negotiating what they should get paid.
There is no comparison. Ever.
Quote from: reese125 on September 12, 2011, 12:55:12 PM
Never understand why someone compares a professional athlete (elite no less) to the rest of america's working class when it comes to negotiating what they should get paid.
There is no comparison. Ever.
The worst was when Joe Truck Drivers were calling up sports talk radio screaming that if they had done what Vick had done they would not have been giving a second chance. So glad, those some guys are now hanging from Vick's teet.
If those guys could afford to run a dog fighting ring and kennel, they wouldn't be truck drivers.
Quote from: reese125 on September 12, 2011, 12:55:12 PM
Never understand why someone compares a professional athlete (elite no less) to the rest of america's working class when it comes to negotiating what they should get paid.
There is no comparison. Ever.
Because when someone makes a statement such as "I still can't believe be played without getting paid" and he's already making money within the top 5%-10% of the rest of the country...thenI'm calling bullshtein. Sure he's underpaid by NFL standards and I hope he gets a new deal, but he's making enough money to live comfortably.
Quote from: SD on September 12, 2011, 03:21:47 PM
Quote from: reese125 on September 12, 2011, 12:55:12 PM
Never understand why someone compares a professional athlete (elite no less) to the rest of america's working class when it comes to negotiating what they should get paid.
There is no comparison. Ever.
Because when someone makes a statement such as "I still can't believe be played without getting paid" and he's already making money within the top 5%-10% of the rest of the country...thenI'm calling bullshtein. Sure he's underpaid by NFL standards and I hope he gets a new deal, but he's making enough money to live comfortably.
Yes, but he does something that less than .001% of the population can do.
Tweet in jive?
I've never really understood why fans even care what the players make.
Besides, don't think they're going to give him a long deal when he can play out this deal and then franchise him twice. (IMO, he deserves a new contract.. i just don't think he'll get one)
Well, I care because I have season tickets and help pay his salary with money out of my pocket. Sure, it's a small amount, but still...
And even I think he's woefully underpaid compared to his peers, but I don't lose sleep over his "misfortune".
Quote from: Rome on September 12, 2011, 03:53:39 PM
but I don't lose sleep over his "misfortune".
no one does
Quote from: Hawk on September 12, 2011, 03:47:51 PM
Quote from: SD on September 12, 2011, 03:21:47 PM
Quote from: reese125 on September 12, 2011, 12:55:12 PM
Never understand why someone compares a professional athlete (elite no less) to the rest of america's working class when it comes to negotiating what they should get paid.
There is no comparison. Ever.
Because when someone makes a statement such as "I still can't believe be played without getting paid" and he's already making money within the top 5%-10% of the rest of the country...thenI'm calling bullshtein. Sure he's underpaid by NFL standards and I hope he gets a new deal, but he's making enough money to live comfortably.
Yes, but he does something that less than .001% of the population can do.
I'm sure the percentage of brain surgeons is very low when taken in the context of America's population, yet I don't see anyone giving a shtein when one's underpaid.
Quote from: SD on September 12, 2011, 05:37:33 PM
Quote from: Hawk on September 12, 2011, 03:47:51 PM
Quote from: SD on September 12, 2011, 03:21:47 PM
Quote from: reese125 on September 12, 2011, 12:55:12 PM
Never understand why someone compares a professional athlete (elite no less) to the rest of america's working class when it comes to negotiating what they should get paid.
There is no comparison. Ever.
Because when someone makes a statement such as "I still can't believe be played without getting paid" and he's already making money within the top 5%-10% of the rest of the country...thenI'm calling bullshtein. Sure he's underpaid by NFL standards and I hope he gets a new deal, but he's making enough money to live comfortably.
Yes, but he does something that less than .001% of the population can do.
I'm sure the percentage of brain surgeons is very low when taken in the context of America's population, yet I don't see anyone giving a shtein when one's underpaid.
I scored some front row seats to a brain surgery on Saturday at 11? You In?
No...but if you ever get brain cancer (and we pray!) I hope the surgeon you get is underpaid.
Why go to a surgeon if you get brain cancer? Accept your lot in life
PAY THIS GUY
Can't say enough about his play, blocking his ass off down field, a td saving tackle while hustling his ass off, plus being his usual self in the passing game, what more does he have to do??
Quote from: shorebird on September 19, 2011, 06:45:19 AM
what more does he have to do??
Lower his inflated Rosensaus contract demands would be my guess
I want him paid, but these type of performances are not good when you're trying to convince and ice a blockbuster deal.
Sure he hustles, blocks and stretches the field, but coming in and out of games, missing sure handed td's each game and finishing a high scoring game with only 2 catches and 20 some odd yards is not going to get you paid what you want.
Eagles probably said let's wait till the break to see where hes at then we'll pay him accordingly.
So when he goes off for 7/150 with 2 td's will that be the time to extend him?
no, because they'll bring up that he missed a block downfield
Remember he tracked Aaron Francisco down in the NFCCG after Francisco picked off a ball; and he forced a fumble.
When Pimp be trackin' you, watch the farg out
Quote from: Rome on September 19, 2011, 09:33:53 AM
So when he goes off for 7/150 with 2 td's will that be the time to extend him?
Probably not because they will say ok now show us some consistency if you want your big boy check.
Tell us the truth... you're really Howie Roseman, right?
Actually, I take back my previous statements about paying him.
When he can also play defense and help stuff the run and cover tight ends... THEN AND ONLY THEN do you pay him, amirite?
Quote from: Rome on September 19, 2011, 10:06:51 AM
Tell us the truth... you're really Howie Roseman, right?
Pay attention son-I said pay him.
Im playing the other side of why this has taken so long and will continue to linger.
Am I really the only one who thinks Maclin and McCoy are more important to the offense than Jackson?
I mean outside of a competent Oline, of course.
you can think that because maclin gets more catches, but the reason he constantly has single coverage is because the ever present deep threat of jackson is taking a corner and a safety with him
They feed off each other and have different roles in the offense. Just a couple of cogs that keep the wheel rolling. That said, Maclin is the more versatile and "polished" receiver and Jackson is the burner. It's a poor man's Carter and Moss.
Jackson missed quite a few snaps in that game last night, yet Maclin still caught 13 balls. Obviously the drop at the end is brutal, but Jackson dropped one in the end zone, and has a greater propensity for drops in general.
Even if you argue Maclin is *more* valuable, is that a reason NOT to sign DeSean?
Quote from: FastFreddie on September 19, 2011, 11:20:41 PM
Even if you argue Maclin is *more* valuable, is that a reason NOT to sign DeSean?
its not even an argument....dont get me wrong mack is a very good wr but the reason he can run free in all those underneath and intermediate areas is because the safeties are playing so deep to stop the long ball to pimp...the falcons whole strategy sunday night was to give everything short but not give up the big play....this is primarily because of pimp
many people can do what mack does...there are very few gamebreakers like pimp....the question is how do you compensate someone like pimp who has a huge influence on the game but whose numbers dont fully reflect that influence....
as for the contract i have to think there is some sort of quid pro quo going on btwn pimp and banner inc...its just playing out way to nicely....i think after his holdout they came to an oral agreement that he will get caked off if he just goes out and plays
Quote from: ice grillin you on September 20, 2011, 07:14:10 AMmany people can do what mack does...
wrong
Vick and Jackson provide cover for Maclin and Shady, no question. But if instead of them the Eagles were trotting out James Thrash and Reno Mahe, the team would not be half as dangerous.
Maclin and McCoy are both bona fide NFL starters, for any team.
Pretty sure Maclin has hadhuge games when Pimp wasn't playing because of injury. Pimp's big play ability is undeniable, but I think, while they are different, both can be "the guy".
Call me cynical but I also think that even if the FO has a deal they know they will offer, and Roachinhaus will probably take, they also realize each week they can delay getting around to it saves another $600k.
Fact is the team gains little by paying him now, since they can franchise him next year.
IF he doesn't get crippled this year.
Then they won't have to pay him at all.
Quote from: Diomedes on September 20, 2011, 05:29:22 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on September 20, 2011, 07:14:10 AMmany people can do what mack does...
wrong
Vick and Jackson provide cover for Maclin and Shady, no question. But if instead of them the Eagles were trotting out James Thrash and Reno Mahe, the team would not be half as dangerous.
Maclin and McCoy are both bona fide NFL starters, for any team.
theres at least one other wr on every team than can be mack in this offense...there might be one or two that can be pimp
cant teach pimps speed
Maclin is going to be more consistent from game to game in terms of putting up #s, but I agree with the general idea that his role is far more easily filled than Jackson's is.
And how many years did it take them to find someone to fill that role? They're both irreplaceable, considering how inept this team is at drafting receivers.
Definitely. They managed to farg up year after year after year, so getting Desean, Maclin and Shady in just 2 years was pretty much a miracle.
Quote from: Dillen on September 20, 2011, 10:43:50 PM
Definitely. They managed to farg up year after year after year, so getting Desean, Maclin and Shady in just 2 years was pretty much a miracle.
Or statistically inevitable, depending on how you look at it.
Quote from: ice grillin you on September 20, 2011, 09:07:41 PM
Quote from: Diomedes on September 20, 2011, 05:29:22 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on September 20, 2011, 07:14:10 AMmany people can do what mack does...
wrong
Vick and Jackson provide cover for Maclin and Shady, no question. But if instead of them the Eagles were trotting out James Thrash and Reno Mahe, the team would not be half as dangerous.
Maclin and McCoy are both bona fide NFL starters, for any team.
theres at least one other wr on every team than can be mack in this offense...there might be one or two that can be pimp
cant teach pimps speed
Of course, thats why when Pimp went out in the Atlanta game, Maclin immediately stopped catching passes.
QuoteDeSean Jackson says his main goal is to stay healthy
Posted by Mike Florio on September 30, 2011, 10:15 AM EDT
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Eagles receiver DeSean Jackson has 13 games remaining until he becomes an unrestricted free agent, barring the inevitable placement of the franchise tag on him by the team.
So what's his motivation? To stay sufficiently healthy now to get paid later.
"Whether I have the ball in my hands or not, I feel like I already established myself in this league as one of the great receivers," Jackson said Thursday, via PhillySportsDaily.com. "I just gotta go out there and keep doing what I can do. Stay healthy is the biggest thing. As long as I can stay healthy, regardless of where I'm playing, I think I'll be all right. Just stay healthy and go out there and do my thing."
Um, what about winning games?
"That's the No. 1 priority is to stay healthy," Jackson said. "I wouldn't be able to play the game if I wasn't healthy. In my book, that's the No. 1 priority. Winning is next in that category. As long as I'm healthy and we're winning, regardless of my numbers, I think I'll be very happy."
This is one of the rare cases you can't fault the player for worrying about their health over playing. I usually tend more to playing what you signed up for, but he is otherwise doing all the right things. If the FO wants to delay a new contract, probably in part because they are seeing if he can stay healthy, he's not wrong to make that the priority. Just catch some fargin tds in the mean time.
TDs or not...if he plays the good soldier, shows up, and doesn't get hurt..he gets paid. Probably not by the Eagles but so what. If they don't want to take care of him, he'll take care of himself and I'm sure Jerry Jones or Dan Snyder would be happy to pay him.
I think DeSean has to play that way the dude is small.
http://www.nbcphiladelphia.com/video/#!/blogs/birds-nest/DeSean-Gives-Back-to-Local-Family/133039638
Get to go grocery shopping with Desean Jackson?! Sometimes dreams really do come true
Every time I see this thread bumped I think he got a new deal.
Stop posting in it until he does, please.
No.
New deal yet.
Quote from: ice grillin you on November 02, 2011, 01:09:28 PM
http://www.nbcphiladelphia.com/video/#!/blogs/birds-nest/DeSean-Gives-Back-to-Local-Family/133039638
stupid showboating thug stillupfront's mom
Maclin's charity work couldn't make money if DeSean weren't here.
Who got the stuff off the top shelf for him?
I saw a stat this week that said he is leading the league in percentage of dropped passes (19.44%).
[Sunmo]lol at "all those dropped passes"[/sunmo]
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on November 12, 2011, 02:34:49 PM
I saw a stat this week that said he is leading the league in percentage of dropped passes (19.44%).
T.O. would be proud.
Dropped passes isn't an official stat, is it? If not, we should shut the farg up about them unless we want to reminisce about how many Thrash, Pinkston, et al dropped
Official or not...he's dropping too damn many
He has been largely worthless this year aside from running off coverages/decoy stuff. At this point I hope it continues. He can come back much cheaper and play next year like I know he's capable.
And I just read he'll be inactive today. Missed a team meeting. Haha
Quote from: FastFreddie on November 13, 2011, 08:49:36 AM
He has been largely worthless this year aside from running off coverages/decoy stuff. At this point I hope it continues. He can come back much cheaper and play next year like I know he's capable.
And I just read he'll be inactive today. Missed a team meeting. Haha
MA Racist
But for real he hasn't been Desean all season and it's clear his contract dispute is manifesting itself in a negative way. He's costing himself money whether he knows it or not. If the Eagles aren't willing to pay him what he thinks he's worth and then he goes out, drops a bunch of passes, fumbles a punt, then starts doing shtein like missing team meetings...teams are going to question his worth. The concussion issue doesn't help his cause either.
I saw the reason for him missing the meeting was oversleeping Saturday morning...he missed the STs meeting.
Ridiculous how the journalists on twitter are circling like buzzards. Here come the TO comments from them...
(http://blacksportsonline.com/home/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/terrell_owens-2-sit-ups-heykobe1.jpg)
Last three games: 8 recpts. for 93 yds. Now he misses a team meeting. It doesn't really matter that it was a ST meeting. A meeting is a meeting. I hate to say it but as of now, it looks like the Eagles did the right thing not giving him a new contract yet.
Roob says on Twitter that he was told by a team official that this wasn't the first incident.
Mike Freeman of CBS also says he was told that the Eagles have been tiring of his attitude.
And the waterfall of negativity has begun...
Bye bye Pimp. It was fun while it lasted.
Just what this season needed. farg this team
Must have been upset over the drops he has had and couldn't sleep.....yeah that's it ::)
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on November 13, 2011, 11:10:23 AM
Roob says on Twitter that he was told by a team official that this wasn't the first incident.
Mike Freeman of CBS also says he was told that the Eagles have been tiring of his attitude.
And the waterfall of negativity has begun...
yup here comes the banner co propaganda.
same thing happened with Michael Lewis after he refused to sign their lowball extension
i'm preempting the expected idiotic comments after maclin has a big game against a horrible defense about how he doesn't need desean.
dgunn just said on csn that desean has NEVER been offered a new contract by the eagles and that other players have missed/been late to meetings this week. funny how the pending fa is the one who gets benched.
if you fools don't see this for what it is, there is nothing i can do to help you.
Maclin for MVP
the "this wasn't the first time" comment will work its magic again
people are dying to call pimp a lazy stillupfront. now they can.
Meeting or no meeting, Jackson has played like shtein for at least the last several games, and for most of the season.
season = 2005 to a T
and this is as much the FO fault as it is jacksons.
He's played like shtein and he leads the world in drops. Now he's missing meetings and sulking all over the place.
Give him a week off and hopefully he will get his head on straight.
yeah but didn't everyone say this would happen in the offseason when he didn't come close to getting a contract? people said it was all the FOs fault now, and its played out how most expected, unless you really think he was going to bring his A game this year without a deal.
He's not doing himself any favors for next year. He'll still get a sweet deal, but not quite as sweet.
Maclin is the better WR. Jackson is still good. Has played like shtein over the last 3 weeks, including an alligator arm. The Eagles should still resign him. End thread.
agreed. he won't get as good of a deal as he would have if he had a great season this year, but he'll still get paid by some team.
i'm just saying, the FO deserves tons of blame for this. jackson has always been a primadonna, so people should have known a season like this was coming. now its here, and the FO is spinnnnning it so people won't be upset after he's gone without so much of a contract offer next year. signing him in the offseason would have avoided this.
Quote from: Geowhizzer on November 13, 2011, 12:38:42 PM
Meeting or no meeting, Jackson has played like shtein for at least the last several games, and for most of the season.
yup...and the Desean homers refuse to admit he has a "I just don't give a shtein" attitude on the field this season.
Quote from: SunMo on November 13, 2011, 12:09:02 PM
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on November 13, 2011, 11:10:23 AM
Roob says on Twitter that he was told by a team official that this wasn't the first incident.
Mike Freeman of CBS also says he was told that the Eagles have been tiring of his attitude.
And the waterfall of negativity has begun...
yup here comes the banner co propaganda.
same thing happened with Michael Lewis after he refused to sign their lowball extension
i'm preempting the expected idiotic comments after maclin has a big game against a horrible defense about how he doesn't need desean.
dgunn just said on csn that desean has NEVER been offered a new contract by the eagles and that other players have missed/been late to meetings this week. funny how the pending fa is the one who gets benched.
if you fools don't see this for what it is, there is nothing i can do to help you.
Look man, I hate Banner and all, but if you believe this conspiracy theory nonsense then I don't know what to say. Desean has played like shtein all season. Maybe they offered him a contract maybe they didn't, but how does it help the team today to make him sit? You don't sit a guy like Desean just to 'send a message'.
Quote from: SD on November 13, 2011, 12:54:40 PM
Maybe they offered him a contract maybe they didn't
They didn't. They're paying him what was agreed to, even if it is assumed by everyone in the world except Joe Banner that players will want to rework their contracts when the money isn't coming in.
Eskin reported that the Eagles told him to stay home and not even come to the game
They do know the trade deadline passed, right?
re-sign him
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on November 13, 2011, 01:10:46 PM
Eskin reported that the Eagles told him to stay home and not even come to the game
I wish they had told me to stay in bed.
lol forreal. Did the WR's look any worse today then they did last week?
yes, not that it matters.
After the way this season has gone, after the way the FO has treated him, basically betting that he will get hurt, after being left home from a game, forget not starting or even not playing, why in the hell would he resign with them?
I would hit the market and let someone cake me off.
Or at least get the tag, which is currently $9.5 mill per year for WR's.
There are 7 games left, play out the string and get rich.
QuoteIt's not a great year for guys who want new contracts.
In Cleveland, running back Peyton Hillis has lost the locker room via behavior that has created a sense that he's erratic and unpredictable. Now, Eagles receiver DeSean Jackson faces the same fate in Philly.
Per a source with knowledge of the situation, some teammates have became frustrated with Jackson's attitude, even before he missed a meeting and drew a deactivation from coach Andy Reid. According to the source, Jackson is perceived as moping and pouting and generally being more concerned about his contract than helping the team win games.
It's not a surprise. In September, Jackson said that his top priority is to remain healthy, not to contribute to victories.
The good news for Jackson, if there is any, is that he definitely remained healthy on Sunday.
For the Eagles, there really isn't any good news. With the team's margin for error now down to zero or less, the real question is whether they've found the bottom yet.
The bad news for Jackson is that he'll be walking into an awkward situation at best on Monday, when he rejoins the team after his one-day exile with pay.
theres not a chance in the world the locker room isnt 100% behind pimp....lemme guess florio wrote that?
the source is probably some coach or trainer who expects pimp to takes his insultingly low salary and kiss banners ring as a thank you
if im pimp i never woulda showed until i got me paid. that was probably his mistake, giving the eagles what they wanted which is cheap african labor.
if pimp acted a fool a year and a half ago then id say pump your brakes homie and wait your turn.....but dunnie has done everything the right way for a long time risking his livelyhood for peanuts....if i was him id never set foot in novacare again
Quote from: ice grillin you on November 13, 2011, 08:21:40 PM
theres not a chance in the world the locker room isnt 100% behind pimp....lemme guess florio wrote that?
Yep.
And one of the beat guys said something about Asante saying he needed to be held accountable.
It's snowballing.
i called assante out as being a cancer year before last....chickens coming home to roost
yea the biggest prick on the team who no one else can stand says he needs to be held accountable. terrific.
theyre damn lucky no one saw this pos game. next week people are gonna see them get sanduskied by the giants on sunday night and shtein is gonna fly.
They'll beat the Giants and Pats and then lose to the Seahawks. Watch.
The rest of the league is going to run a train on the "Dream Team."
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on November 13, 2011, 08:56:41 PM
They'll beat the Giants and Pats and then lose to the Seahawks. Watch.
That would be amazingly hilarious.
Quote from: ice grillin you on November 13, 2011, 09:00:58 PM
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on November 13, 2011, 08:56:41 PM
They'll beat the Giants and Pats.
bwaahahahahaha
Not that funny. Why? Because they're expected to lose so they will come out and play solid games. Not that I'm counting on that but I wouldn't be shocked to see it happen.
I'm shocked that the line has opened NYG -3.5
they have lost seven straight at home so yes i would be shocked if they beat the patriots...as for the giants im just hoping they dont get pummeled
I'll take the Giants with that line if anyone wants some action.
Steve Smith's pay this year: $2,281,000
DeSean Jackson's: pay this year: $550,000.
dont forget trevor laws and jarrad page who both make more than pimp
so smith got paid a million to drop a ball and cause an interception against the giants and to give up before the 1st down marker today?
good work if you can get it
sneaky gold standard type signing stealing him away from a division rival...the hurt it has caused the giants thus far is obvious
Any doubt Smith re-signs with the Giants next season then reverts back to his 3rd down specialist 100 catch self?
Quote from: MDS on November 13, 2011, 09:39:49 PM
so smith got paid a million to drop a ball and cause an interception against the giants and to give up before the 1st down marker today?
good work if you can get it
:-D. Pinkston, Thrash, Smith - Ring of Honor.
Quote from: SD on November 13, 2011, 10:10:13 PM
Any doubt Smith re-signs with the Giants next season then reverts back to his 3rd down specialist 100 catch self?
The guy's a straight double agent...
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/11/14/financial-woes-may-be-driving-deseans-actions/
It's from Eskin, so take it fwiw, but I can't think of any reason why he'd be making this up or anything.
QuoteAccording to Howard Eskin of WIP speaking to Florio on PFT Live Monday, Jackson has serious financial issues.
"From what I'm told, [Jackson] owes Drew Rosenhaus a lot of money. . . . We're talking hundreds of thousands of dollars. Is he broke? I don't know how you define broke, but I know when he signs his new deal he will owe Drew Rosenhaus a lot of money."
Do you mean to tell me that a taunting, showboat player on the field lives beyond his (considerable) means off the field? Shocking.
It's hard to believe, but yes, I do believe that is exactly what happened.
title goes green before it goes black
He shouldn't have been buying that kid all that shtein.
Maybe he was lending it to him?
http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news?slug=ap-eagles-jackson
QuoteJackson speaks to Reid, teammates after benching
By ROB MAADDI, AP Pro Football Writer 2 hours, 32 minutes ago
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PHILADELPHIA (AP)—Banished from the stadium, DeSean Jackson(notes) had to watch his team's latest loss on television.
Considering how poorly the Eagles played, that was a harsh punishment.
The Pro Bowl receiver spoke to coach Andy Reid and his teammates, and is ready to move forward after being deactivated Sunday because he missed a meeting.
"Everyone knows the situation, knows the case," Jackson said Monday. "As a professional and as a man, you just really have to handle things. I can admit to some things that I've done, that I need to better, which I think everybody at a period of time in their life figures out what it is."
Jackson didn't attend a special teams meeting Saturday morning and was told to stay home the next day. The Eagles lost to Arizona 21-17 to fall to 3-6 in a season that began with Super Bowl aspirations.
Jackson didn't deny that he purposely skipped the meeting to make a statement because he's upset about his contract situation. He's in the final year of his rookie contract and made it clear he wants a new deal when he held out 11 days in training camp.
"Everybody knows the contract situation," Jackson said. "As a human being, there are things you have to go through in life. I realize what it is. I'm just ready to just continue and just go forward. I'm not thinking about nothing else that happened. Whatever I did in the past, it's over. It's done. I know what I need to do and I'm going to make it happen."
Jackson hasn't been productive this season. He has only 29 catches for 503 yards and two touchdowns. He averaged 57 receptions, 1,041 yards and six TDs his first three seasons to go along with three TDs rushing and four on punt returns.
But Jackson's presence opens things up for others on the offense. It was obvious how much the Eagles missed him against the Cardinals. Michael Vick(notes) had his worst passing game since becoming Philadelphia's starter and the offense had a season-low 289 total yards.
"Well I think any time a team sees that you don't have one of your best players on the field, they can change their strategy and their game plan in an instant," Vick said. "They're smart professional players and good ones at that, so they were able to make adjustments and made it tough for us."
Jackson said he respected Reid's decision and doesn't have any hard feelings. Reid said the situation is behind them.
"I've always had a good relationship with DeSean," he said. "I've done this with other players so we can't forget that part. I've done this two or three times with other players where I've sat them down, so it's just one of those things that happens. And I will tell you that, myself included, nobody is bigger than the football team and so, if you're wrong in a spot, then you have consequences, too. And that's how it works."
Quote from: Feva on November 13, 2011, 11:41:58 PM
Quote from: SD on November 13, 2011, 10:10:13 PM
Any doubt Smith re-signs with the Giants next season then reverts back to his 3rd down specialist 100 catch self?
The guy's a straight double agent...
The stop, drop and roll was worse than the T-Rex incident with Pinkston
It was more like stop, drop, cease and desist. I still can't believe that. He sure did overtake Pinkston and Watters for the title of biggest Hoyda.
The in debt to Rosenhaus thing is mildly interesting...
As much as I love the guy I hope that he didn't miss a meeting on purpose because of the contract. I firmly believe the FO should pay him but that is not the way to go about it.
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on November 15, 2011, 12:20:06 AM
The in debt to Rosenhaus thing is mildly interesting...
As much as I love the guy I hope that he didn't miss a meeting on purpose because of the contract. I firmly believe the FO should pay him but that is not the way to go about it.
I believe the other side of the conspiracy theory.
I think the FO saw an opportunity to increase their bargaining leverage for a game they thought they wouldn't need him to win.
I'm sure he missed the meeting, but I am equally sure that less valuable players have done more and gotten punished less.
It's like a over the last years ago when a players got busted riding in a car with weed. Practice squad/bubble players = cut. Important players = not cut.
Word on the street is that this wasn't an isolated incident and that there have been problems brewing with him and punctuality, conduct, etc. Nothing specific has been mentioned, so right now it's just speculation, but if it's true that this was more of a last straw incident than it was the FO trying to gain bargaining leverage.
If by chance though, this was the FO trying to gain bargaining leverage, huge LOL @ them after that loss.
Bargaining leverage?
So if the Eagles beat the Cardinals the FO would have had more? There is no leverage of any kind beating that team.
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Jackson tweeted this over the summer. There's nothing wrong with spending 2% of your annual income on a bar tab, right?
In hindsight DeSean being benched was the best thing that could have happened for him. This offense was utter garbage and Vick was totally useless without him on the field. At the very least it made the point that the team isn't the same without him.
So Vick's ineffectiveness had less to do with his two broken ribs than the absence of Jackson's dropped passes and sulking antics on the field?
Oh, I'm sorry, did Vick break his ribs on the first play of the game? I must have missed that.
Also, Vick sucks. He's totally regressed and is right back to what he was when he was with Atlanta.
vick has been a bad quarterback for all but like 10 games of his career....im pretty sure this is bigger than any one wr he throws to....the guy just isnt a good nfl qb and never will be...people need to realize this
The offense and Vick was utter garbage against the Bears horrendous pass d and Jackson played.
Jackson is in no position with his play this year to make any points.
Jackson hasn't been all that good this year, no question. But the problem against the Bears was that Vick farging sucked. The problem against the Cardinals was that Vick farging sucked AND no one could get open.
And by the way Vick broke those ribs when he scrambled in the 4th quarter and the safeties helmet nailed him. It was clear as day and even more clear Reid was covering up Vicks butt ass play once again.
i love vick and jackson so i am very conflicted on how to deploy my homer love right now
Quote from: reese125 on November 15, 2011, 10:42:09 AM
And by the way Vick broke those ribs when he scrambled in the 4th quarter and the safeties helmet nailed him. It was clear as day and even more clear Reid was covering up Vicks butt ass play once again.
Yes, I know.
That wasn't directed at you-more so for the heads that think Vick really broke his ribs in the 1st q
since the joe webb game
vick is at 59% completions and a 79 qbr (not to mention his 1:1 ratio and bushels of fumbles)
for his career he is 55% completions and 80 qbr
he is what we thought he was
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Jackson tweeted this over the summer. There's nothing wrong with spending 2% of your annual income on a bar tab, right?
Business was discussed so he could write some of that off
The Colony? Isn't that where they sent the lepers?
Quote from: reese125 on November 15, 2011, 10:22:13 AM
Bargaining leverage?
So if the Eagles beat the Cardinals the FO would have had more? There is no leverage of any kind beating that team.
Meaning by making DeSean look like a problem they decrease his market value, helping themselves when it comes to contract time.
The "post your wasteful bar tab" trend infuriates me. You know who spends like that? Dumb serfs who fell into money, and will soon wonder where it all went.
According to everything I've read he had his ribs busted on the second play of the game.
But since Reese says it actually happened in the 4th that's good enough for me.
Smart man.
He was running like a farging gazelle for 4 quarters until that hit....but if you want to believe he's superman after the 2nd play of the game more power to you.
http://www.csnphilly.com/football-philadelphia-eagles/news/Injured-Vick-should-have-benched-himself?blockID=594716&feedID=704
QuoteSecond offensive snap for the Eagles Sunday at the Linc, Vick got hit so hard by blitzing Cards linebacker Daryl Washington he wound up with two broken ribs.
There's about 1,000 other sites that document when the injury happened, Reese.
And LOL @ the gazelle comment.
What the farg is Ace of Spades, and why does it cost $1100 a piece?
And a bottle of Grey Goose is over $600? Even when I buy good scotch, it's not more than $90 a bottle.
Christ.
fwiw those are magnums of grey goose....at a club in dc or philly they might run you 400 so 8-9 hundred in la probably is par for the course
ace of spades is champagne
Quote from: Rome on November 15, 2011, 07:05:22 PM
http://www.csnphilly.com/football-philadelphia-eagles/news/Injured-Vick-should-have-benched-himself?blockID=594716&feedID=704
QuoteSecond offensive snap for the Eagles Sunday at the Linc, Vick got hit so hard by blitzing Cards linebacker Daryl Washington he wound up with two broken ribs.
There's about 1,000 other sites that document when the injury happened, Reese.
And LOL @ the gazelle comment.
I read today Sandusky is innocent.
He is. He even said so on the teevee.
Yeah zero chance the fo would ever cover for their awful investment by claiming he was hurt early.
So how long have they been keeping quiet about Reid's brain damage?
How long has he been coaching them?
Too damn long.
Quote from: Geowhizzer on November 15, 2011, 09:32:19 PM
Too damn long.
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Hahaha
and there it is. DeSean comes as close to saying it out loud as he can without saying it out loud:
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/11/15/desean-jackson-suggests-inconsistent-treatment/ (http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/11/15/desean-jackson-suggests-inconsistent-treatment/)
The last time Reid "did something like that" was George Hegamin pushing the 5 man sled.
So which teammate threw him under the bus?
Irvin has a sit down interview with him that they're playing on NFLN tonight and Sunday and tonights first clip was Irvin asking him about how he feels about the teammate who said he would not go over the middle?
when will current eagles learn to stop doing interviews with ex cowboys
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/11/22/josh-scobee-calls-desean-jackson-punk-starts-twitter-feud/
What kind of superstar gets into it with a f'n kicker?
Besides, he is a punk.
eagles need more pimps and punks and less high motors
The Eagles need more McCoys who actually perform every week.
Nope. They all have to be tiny bastiches like DeSean. Otherwise they're too white for IGY
Quote from: General_Failure on November 22, 2011, 01:19:17 PM
The Eagles need more McCoys who actually perform every week.
exactly but dio would rather have 22 teonashammys
I think he'd take 22 McCoys if the option were available.
not if they were punks
he wants guys that do anti bullying campaigns and go out of their way to get with and stick by defenseless kids in distress
I've seen enough taunting and showboating and alligator arms and drama queen non-injuries and running backwards on returns.
F this guy.
lolol....the only reason you can get away with this stuff is cause you admittedly dont even like sports....being a hispter gives you a pass on certain things and this is one of them...if you were a valid sports fan or even pretended to be one you would be a travesty of unheard of levels
That's so true. Real sports fans find Jackson's bullshtein as refreshing as rjs' miserable attitude.
real sports fans would realize he makes the offense go and to get rid of him would be assinine
you do realize hipster dee is advocating him being off the team?
I thought Dio was advocating surprise sex. Now I don't know who or what to believe.
I admit it: I'm advocating Scobee on Jackson surprise sex.
I'd pay to see all of you buried up to your necks and then run over with wheat combines.
PS: Love Jackson's ability and heart (yeah, he has one - anyone that small who plays in the NFL has a big one) but hate his ridiculous bullshtein showboating antics. You wanna get paid like a star, stop acting like a little bitch. The end.
Spoken like an old white racist.
Quote from: General_Failure on November 22, 2011, 01:51:13 PM
That's so true. Real sports fans find Jackson's bullshtein as refreshing as rjs' miserable attitude.
I for one find rjs' bitter tirades quite refreshing.
Jackson doesn't need to go, his coach does.
Quote from: Rome on November 22, 2011, 07:44:09 PM
I'd pay to see all of you buried up to your necks and then run over with wheat combines.
PS: Love Jackson's ability and heart (yeah, he has one - anyone that small who plays in the NFL has a big one) but hate his ridiculous bullshtein showboating antics. You wanna get paid like a star, stop acting like a little bitch. The end.
i understand elders feeling this way and i wouldnt try and change their minds all im saying is that its preposterous to want him off the team because of it
Desean's not a very smart fellow, this isn't being racist or white it's being realistic. When you continually repeat behavior you know is inappropriate that's what we call being an idiot. There's a way to be flashy and showboat without costing your team yards/points, players have been doing it for years.
its being an elder white to want him off the team because of it
id rather be dumb while scoring a 70 yard touchdown than be dumb while giving up one
Quote from: ice grillin you on November 23, 2011, 07:41:49 AM
its being an elder white to want him off the team because of it
id rather be dumb while scoring a 70 yard touchdown than be dumb while giving up one
oh...I missed that there were people who wanted him off the team. For the record I'm still fine with him getting a 5 year $50 million deal. I think we all know he's walking at seasons end though. That ship has sailed.
on this site dio is the only one im aware of which is who i was talking to...but theres also a groundswell of people within the fanbase that dont want him resigned because of it
Quote from: SD on November 23, 2011, 07:43:43 AMoh...I missed that there were people who wanted him off the team.
you missed it because it wasn't said.
igy is trolling me, putting words in my hipster mouth...the usual shtein
what I said is F Jackson, for obvious reasons
you take the good with the bad with Desean. If he's not showboating, he's not effective.
torrence small...now there was a receiver who was respectful and not a showboating negro. need more of him
LOL. Desean is just one of those players that needs to play like he did sunday. Plus I want Desean on this team forever just to have him torment Giants fans
Quote from: Diomedes on November 23, 2011, 07:56:28 AM
Quote from: SD on November 23, 2011, 07:43:43 AMoh...I missed that there were people who wanted him off the team.
you missed it because it wasn't said.
igy is trolling me, putting words in my hipster mouth...the usual shtein
what I said is F Jackson, for obvious reasons
wait so you are saying you want a guy who fakes injuries and doesnt try on your team?
and sorry i misconstrued you saying "ive seen enough" as meaning you want him gone....that was a huge stretch on my part
Quote from: Diomedes on November 22, 2011, 01:42:01 PM
I've seen enough taunting and showboating and alligator arms and drama queen non-injuries and running backwards on returns.
F him.
There was a point I thought DJack was young and stupid and would potentially grow out of the shtein he was doing. Now I realize its him and there's nothing he can do about it.
I can accept it as long as you're producing on a consistent basis-ala Owens, Ochocinco and some some of the other phenomenal producing clowns....but if you're just going to be a #2 decoy that runs go routes 90% of the game to let the other wr's on your team out produce you, I have a big problem with the showboating-esp being invisible for 3 straight games.
Sure I want to keep him because he can catch and his speed is fun to watch, but I wouldnt be traumatized by his departure if it meant getting some solid defensive players in return and another speed guy on the outside that can run go routes all game.
I am firmly in the 'keep desean' 'he makes the offense run' camp, but two dropped TDs in a season ending game is farging loser bullshtein.
People only don't want him to get paid like a #1 because he's a young black man, Todd says so
I'm all for him getting paid and such, but he's bitched out this season.
He's far from the only or the biggest reason for this season's debacle (ahem Castillo ahem), but his pussing out this year certainly hasn't helped. The "explosiveness" in the offense simply isn't there.
Todd Pinkston stretched the field and avoided hits too. I liked him, so to be consistent, I should support Punk as well.
Re-sign Punk!
I want him to get paid too.
Just not as a #1 WR, because he is clearly not a #1 WR.
Rosenhaus is in the house today too.
Wonder what he thinks?
Quote from: rjs246 on November 27, 2011, 06:43:34 PM
I am firmly in the 'keep desean' 'he makes the offense run' camp, but two dropped TDs in a season ending game is farging loser bullshtein.
Amen.
Benched in the 4th quarter so "other guys could get an opportunity."
lol.
farg the punk. You want a new contract, try catching the ball in the endzone. What a farging piss poor preformance. Farg this team.
Punk dropped short armed two passes today because he saw the hit coming. One for a huge gain within 10 yards of endzone and the other was the dropped TD. If you look at the replay, he was already anticipating the hit which caused the short arms.
NOT fargING COOL! :boom
He's talented and unreliable. Now excuse me while I cut and paste this into just about every starter's profile thread.
He's either getting some seriously poor advice from his slickster agent or the posse of retards he surrounds himself with or he's decided that quitting on his teammates is preferable to getting injured and ruining any chance for a big payday.
Either way he's the most disappointing player of the Reid era to me because he's phenomenally talented and unbelievably exciting when he feels like strapping 'em on.
And I might be old but since when is preening, prancing, taunting opponents then short-arming sure td passes on the field considered desirable? That display yesterday was sickening and anyone who refuses to acknowledge that is beyond help.
I wasn't that upset with Desean's drops because its seems everything Vy throws him is late and or under thrown. On the deep pass I think that was streak that Desean had to bend off and it allowed a defender to maybe get a hand in on it. The shallow cross at the GL was thrown way late. So the one time Vy should put the ball a little behind him(because it was so late) he leads him into who knows what. That doesn't mean he shouldn't have run the route caught the ball took the hit and scored, I'm just not that upset with him.
he was horrible yesterday. but most of his bullshtein wouldn't have been an issue if the eagles would have paid him like they should.
how soon people forget 3 seasons of productivity for one bad year
i was pretty drunk at the game and haven't watched (nor will i) the game on tv, but it seemed to me that VY played a pretty good game yesterday. except for a few floaters, one being to desean, seemed like his passes were pretty tight.
Quote from: SunMo on November 28, 2011, 11:03:49 AM
how soon people forget 3 seasons of productivity for one bad year
It's not that he's just having a bad year, it's that his lack of production is the result of his crappy attitude and refusal to put the effort in on the field.
If he wanted the money this bad then he should have held out longer like CJ did. I'd have no problem with that. But when he decided to end his holdout after 3 days and showed up to camp, he basically said that he's here to play and made the commitment to the team for this year and he simply doesn't look very committed on the field. Don't bitch about money but show up to work and half ass it all year.
It's a shame because he's obviously a good kid getting bad advice from someone.
It's one thing to dog management but he fargin quit on his teammates yesterday. Can you imagine him pulling that shtein with Dawk on the team?
i don't blame him for short arming balls. he's gotten two concussions for this team and they reward him by making him play for 600k this year with no contract offer. good for him. farg the team
Daunte Robinson has him spooked forever.
I don't care if he gets paid $40 million a year, I fully expect him to short arm some close passes for the rest of his career. When you get knocked out like that, it forever sits in our brain and you can't help but to react differently....unless you're just a sick bitch and could care less. Jackson is def not that type.
Desean broke the most sacred code amongst nfl wide receivers not once but twice in the same farging game.
Keep Shady. Watch DeSean become absolutely ridiculous with a real coach on a winning team. That's the formula.
is there any doubt at all that pimp will be in a taterskins uniform as soon as possible?
Nightmare scenario is Giants or Cowboys.
Quote from: SunMo on November 28, 2011, 12:32:18 PM
i don't blame him for short arming balls. he's gotten two concussions for this team and they reward him by making him play for 600k this year with no contract offer. good for him. farg the team
Poor Desean, he's only playing for a measly 600k and the possibility of a multi-million dollar deal next season. I don't know how he manages to get by on 600k for playing a game. Meanwhile a chief surgeon is making less than him, saving lives, and not letting people die because he's bitter about his contract. Poor Desean.
Quote from: SunMo on November 28, 2011, 12:32:18 PM
i don't blame him for short arming balls. he's gotten two concussions for this team and they reward him by making him play for 600k this year with no contract offer. good for him. farg the team
yep if he can punish the team for their complete idiocy then more power to him...he did more than enough the last two years to get a raise...but what do they do...instead of caking him off they give five million to vince young...new deal to jason avant...sick deal to mike vick
chickens coming home to roost now
Quote from: SD on November 28, 2011, 05:17:34 PM
Quote from: SunMo on November 28, 2011, 12:32:18 PM
i don't blame him for short arming balls. he's gotten two concussions for this team and they reward him by making him play for 600k this year with no contract offer. good for him. farg the team
Poor Desean, he's only playing for a measly 600k and the possibility of a multi-million dollar deal next season. I don't know how he manages to get by on 600k for playing a game. Meanwhile a chief surgeon is making less than him, saving lives, and not letting people die because he's bitter about his contract. Poor Desean.
comparing athletes' contract situations to real life working people is probably the most WIP thing you can do.
"Yeah, ya know, when I sign a contract for a plumbing job, I honor that contract. So Desean should do the same thing!"
stop being retarded, i command you
This argument is so tired. Jackson is a bitch and Banner is the Devil.
The end.
if pimp gets a deal and still plays like he has this year then you can call him a bitch....until i see that tho im gonna call him a hero for sticking it to banner inc for all the times they blackballed players for not signing low ball offers
Too bad he's got teammates on the field depending on him to produce and not act like a scared little bitch every time there's a defender near him.
All he's done is lowered the amount of money he coulda got. If he went out and tore it up this year, he'd get a huge contract. Now, he'll be lucky to get paid like a #1
Quote from: SunMo on November 28, 2011, 05:30:46 PM
Quote from: SD on November 28, 2011, 05:17:34 PM
Quote from: SunMo on November 28, 2011, 12:32:18 PM
i don't blame him for short arming balls. he's gotten two concussions for this team and they reward him by making him play for 600k this year with no contract offer. good for him. farg the team
Poor Desean, he's only playing for a measly 600k and the possibility of a multi-million dollar deal next season. I don't know how he manages to get by on 600k for playing a game. Meanwhile a chief surgeon is making less than him, saving lives, and not letting people die because he's bitter about his contract. Poor Desean.
comparing athletes' contract situations to real life working people is probably the most WIP thing you can do.
"Yeah, ya know, when I sign a contract for a plumbing job, I honor that contract. So Desean should do the same thing!"
stop being retarded, i command you
How is it different exactly? I'll never understand this line of thinking. He's making 600k a year, for that type of money I'd take a concussion. Hell, I'd have sex with munson for that amount.
600k in the pro sports universe is like thirty seven five in the real world...so no i wouldnt tak a potential career ending injury for 600k
Quote from: SD on November 28, 2011, 05:43:13 PM
Quote from: SunMo on November 28, 2011, 05:30:46 PM
Quote from: SD on November 28, 2011, 05:17:34 PM
Quote from: SunMo on November 28, 2011, 12:32:18 PM
i don't blame him for short arming balls. he's gotten two concussions for this team and they reward him by making him play for 600k this year with no contract offer. good for him. farg the team
Poor Desean, he's only playing for a measly 600k and the possibility of a multi-million dollar deal next season. I don't know how he manages to get by on 600k for playing a game. Meanwhile a chief surgeon is making less than him, saving lives, and not letting people die because he's bitter about his contract. Poor Desean.
comparing athletes' contract situations to real life working people is probably the most WIP thing you can do.
"Yeah, ya know, when I sign a contract for a plumbing job, I honor that contract. So Desean should do the same thing!"
stop being retarded, i command you
How is it different exactly? I'll never understand this line of thinking. He's making 600k a year, for that type of money I'd take a concussion. Hell, I'd have sex with munson for that amount.
You wouldn't say that if you knew I charged 10 mil for the buttsecks.
just take your money negro and catch the balls
Quote from: ice grillin you on November 28, 2011, 05:45:39 PM
600k in the pro sports universe is like thirty seven five in the real world...so no i wouldnt tak a potential career ending injury for 600k
600k is 600k regardless of who it is. He's getting paid that for playing a god damn sport. lol at the 'potential career ending injury', I'd love to hear a soldier tell his Commander he's not putting his life on the line unless he gets a pay raise.
well its first off its 300k after taxes...then percentages to agent, managers, union dues, insurances, etc. after all that he aint walkin away with a massive amount.
on top of that, and again, its not just an independent 600k. they paid steve smith. they paid avant. they paid vick. they took care of all those guys. but not him. hows that supposed to make him feel, when he of all people out performed his contract and most certainly deserved a raise?
it makes him feel like shtein and makes him resent the spiteful, arrogant organization he works for. and now theyre 4-7 and their best player is beyond unhappy and is probably gone for good.
but its pimps fault because he didnt play for banners pennies. if i were him i would either be doing the same thing or sitting out the year for good. farg them and their 600k. hes got 1 contract to get paid and if he goes full out over the middle of one of vy's zesty passes it could become 0 contracts.
I'll sum up Jackson real quick. He's underpaid and he's acting like a little bitch.
Like I said earlier, if he doesn't want to ball out when he's on the field, then he should have stuck with his holdout. But underpaid or not, if he steps on the field then he should be willing to everything possible to help the team win and he obviously isn't playing to the best of his ability and hasn't all year.
Do I blame him for not wanting to get laid out going across the middle of the field on $600k salary? Not at all. He's 1 hit away from having his career ended with nothing to fall back on. Hell, his dumb ass is already a few hundred K in the hole to Rosenpuke to begin with. So I'm fine with him wanting more money. I support him getting more money...hopefully from the Eagles. But when he decided to show up to play and not hold out, then he should have committed himself 100% to the team and he clearly hasn't done that. He (and the team) would have probably been better off if he did hold out because he has been mostly absent all year anyway.
youre right, they would be better off with jason avant and riley cooper
Quote from: ice grillin you on November 28, 2011, 05:34:15 PM
if pimp gets a deal and still plays like he has this year then you can call him a bitch....until i see that tho im gonna call him a hero for sticking it to banner inc for all the times they blackballed players for not signing low ball offers
I'm not calling him a bitch, Mr. Binary. I'm saying the argument is "bitch vs. devil".
Get it?
You don't see Shady bailing out on plays and to say he is sticking it to the FO? The players play mostly for their team mates and the almighty $( not the fans or management)
Losing locker room respect is hard to get it back until you show up.
Eagles FO are fools. It'd be one thing if they were winning championships...but now want to alienate the best WR they've had since TO.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but Jackson is an UFA after this season?
That shtein is so complicated, I have no idea. I think so, if the FO doesn't Franchise him.
Quote from: hbionic on November 28, 2011, 06:44:38 PM
Correct me if I'm wrong, but Jackson is an UFA after this season?
yes...sort of....his contract is up but they can of course franchise him if they choose...hopefully they are smart enough not to....why would you not care about him enough to give him a new deal but then franchise him...either extend him long term or let him go
Forgot about that. I got scared he might leave after the season.
shtein man, they're going to hate each other when the deal is getting signed.
Whatever. Pay Jackson his money, move on, and let's see some more heartbreaking mediocre football!
You can compare NFL salaries to real world jobs. It just has to be put into proper perspective like IGY did by saying $600k is like $xx.
If people in my field are making $200k a year and I am making $75k but I am better than them and outperforming them then you're damn right I will be looking for more too.
With that being said...I would not sulk about it or perform my job any less. I can be salty about it but I have integrity and pride in my performance. I don't want anyone thinking that I am some slacker who does enough to get by. I will bust my ass and ask for a raise and show I am worth it. If my company doesn't value me but another one does, then I make the move - just like an NFL player would.
Both parties are at fault here. The Eagles allowed this to fester because they lack tact. They fashion themselves as hardliners when in fact they should be more open or creative to working a deal. And Jackson should go out and prove his worth.
Another team may value him but they also see how he handles adversity and have to think that he would act the same way should he ever become dissatisfied with them.
Quote from: SD on November 28, 2011, 06:12:37 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on November 28, 2011, 05:45:39 PM
600k in the pro sports universe is like thirty seven five in the real world...so no i wouldnt tak a potential career ending injury for 600k
600k is 600k regardless of who it is. He's getting paid that for playing a god damn sport. lol at the 'potential career ending injury', I'd love to hear a soldier tell his Commander he's not putting his life on the line unless he gets a pay raise.
To be fair, farg DeSean and his Hoyda ass. That being said, a 180 lb WR who runs really fast and is dumb as a brick will stop making athlete type money by the time they're 32. So making 600k in his 20s is not in his best interests. I get that, so hold out as Sarge said. Stick to your guns, watch the team shtein the bed for a few weeks until you get paid. Otherwise, come back in week 11 and play out the season. Then no one rides you for being a Hoyda.
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on November 28, 2011, 07:33:38 PM
You can compare NFL salaries to real world jobs. It just has to be put into proper perspective like IGY did by saying $600k is like $xx.
If people in my field are making $200k a year and I am making $75k but I am better than them and outperforming them then you're damn right I will be looking for more too.
With that being said...I would not sulk about it or perform my job any less.
if im making five ten times less than people who are not just worse than me at their jobs but inferior in general at their jobs god damn right im not putting forth full effort and going out of my way for them...also if im putting forth maximum effort and producing at a high level and dont get rewarded for it im also gonna eventually not put out like i had been....thats human nature...and i unlike pimp dont work at a job where my career could end at any moment because of physical injury
I sympathize with several of these arguments. He should have been paid long ago. He should have played like a man.
Blah blah.
The season is over. Let him sit out the rest of the way so he can stay healthy and put Riley Cooper et. al out there. I don't care.
If I performed at my job like DeSean performs at his, I would get fired. I certainly wouldn't get rewarded with a promotion and a fat pay check.
Half-assing, alligator arming and bitching don't get a payday, and his best days won't last much longer in any event.
once again you choose to only acknowledge this past season. what if you performed your job like he did last year and didn't get the raise you deserved? what then?
whatever the answer is, it's bat shtein crazy to compare real world situations
desean jackson is in the upper tier of a job that less than 1% of the population can do. that fact gives him certain leverage that nobody in the regular working sector has.
the compensation may be way out of skew for what jobs are really important in life, but that precedent was set long ago
What has he done since the miracle at the meadowlands? [Other than act as a decoy, taunt, shy from contact, drop balls, talk smack, and retreat on punt returns?]
well he got hurt and played hurt in their playoff game against the packers.
but you know, he's just a pos who doesn't try
farg desean jackson and anybody that thinks its ok to farg up a WHOLE teams chances of winning for your own interest. stay home.
any guy that Hoydas it up like that on the field and costs the rest of the team doesnt deserve to be on the field. that was so pinkston/watersesque it was disgusting. like we still owe him some kind of special red carpet treatment now after 11 games for returning a punt a year ago.
I believe this though---paid or not paid he short arms and misses those td passes and regresses this year regardless....just like 97% of the top FA's that get paid big dollars. really cool trend in the nfl.
Quote from: SunMo on November 28, 2011, 08:23:26 PM
well he got hurt and played hurt in their playoff game against the packers.
but you know, he's just a pos who doesn't try
in other words, he hasn't done shtein
but you know, he's the best WR in the league
I get paid for consistent performance, not spotty performance.
This is also the guy who spiked the ball on the 1 yard line. According to some sources, he also led the Eagles in drops last season.
He's a bitch ass punk, with incredible, possibly elite talent.
Andre Johnson has the same talent, without being a douchebag. Give me that.
Top recievers who aren't douchebags are few and far between, and the Eagles don't know how to draft them. Jackson is the best we're going to get out of these sons of bitches, so I'd rather they keep his stupid ass and pay him to shut up.
Quote from: Diomedes on November 28, 2011, 08:25:05 PM
Quote from: SunMo on November 28, 2011, 08:23:26 PM
well he got hurt and played hurt in their playoff game against the packers.
but you know, he's just a pos who doesn't try
in other words, he hasn't done shtein
but you know, he's the best WR in the league
i never said he was the best in the league. he doesn't deserve fitzgerald money like he claims. he deserves a substantial raise though. the eagles have refused to give that and are now paying the price
I don't care what they pay him, he needs to not be a little bitch when catching balls. That's what he gets paid to do, whatever that amount is. When he's dropping balls and short arming balls, he's not doing his job.
Yes, he deserves a raise. Yes, the team needs him. No, he's not a #1 WR. Yes, he is playing like a little bitch and there's nothing that justifies hurting your team/not playing for your teammates.
Quote from: MMH on November 28, 2011, 08:10:47 PM
If I performed at my job like DeSean performs at his, I would get fired. I certainly wouldn't get rewarded with a promotion and a fat pay check.
you also can be be easily replaced at your job...if you left tomorrow your company wouldnt even blink...and they certainly wouldnt offer to pay you ten times more if you threatened to quit
oh also you arent one of the top playmakers in the nfl...apples and oranges
Quote from: Diomedes on November 28, 2011, 08:21:48 PM
What has he done since the miracle at the meadowlands? [Other than act as a decoy, taunt, shy from contact, drop balls, talk smack, and retreat on punt returns?]
that was 11 games ago...ten of which happened this year....i dnt think anyone is arguing that this year from all aspects has been a disaster
the point is that his first three years in the league he was one of if not the top playmaker in the nfl and everyone around the eagles has gotten caked cept him
kill him if you want for not giving forth max effort this year but trying to degrade him as a player for this season i think is offbase
Quote from: SunMo on November 28, 2011, 08:29:47 PM
Quote from: Diomedes on November 28, 2011, 08:25:05 PM
Quote from: SunMo on November 28, 2011, 08:23:26 PM
well he got hurt and played hurt in their playoff game against the packers.
but you know, he's just a pos who doesn't try
in other words, he hasn't done shtein
but you know, he's the best WR in the league
i never said he was the best in the league. he doesn't deserve fitzgerald money like he claims. he deserves a substantial raise though. the eagles have refused to give that and are now paying the price
at this point as much as i love the guy i want him to go...so all the dumb ass eagles fans and the front office can try and replace him....they literally have never had a player like him on offense...and when i say never i dont mean under andy reid or banner inc i mean ever like since 1933...but go ahead and play with all jason avants...i dont give a farg anymore
Let's just make DeSean the head coach!
Why can't it be that the Eagles need to pay him AND he needs to step his game up too?
the idea that the Eagles need Jackson, or that he's some kind of Greatest Ever player cracks me up.
The Eagles have had before and will have again incredible players like Jackson.
Quote from: ice grillin you on November 28, 2011, 08:31:52 PM
Quote from: MMH on November 28, 2011, 08:10:47 PM
If I performed at my job like DeSean performs at his, I would get fired. I certainly wouldn't get rewarded with a promotion and a fat pay check.
you also can be be easily replaced at your job...if you left tomorrow your company wouldnt even blink...and they certainly wouldnt offer to pay you ten times more if you threatened to quit
oh also you arent one of the top playmakers in the nfl...apples and oranges
Quote from: Diomedes on November 28, 2011, 08:21:48 PM
What has he done since the miracle at the meadowlands? [Other than act as a decoy, taunt, shy from contact, drop balls, talk smack, and retreat on punt returns?]
that was 11 games ago...ten of which happened this year....i dnt think anyone is arguing that this year from all aspects has been a disaster
the point is that his first three years in the league he was one of if not the top playmaker in the nfl and everyone around the eagles has gotten caked cept him
kill him if you want for not giving forth max effort this year but trying to degrade him as a player for this season i think is offbase
Actually, fat dumb asses who suck off the public tit can be easily replaced.
I have worked to be fairly unique, one of the reasons I'm still employed in a zesty Pharma environment.
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on November 28, 2011, 08:36:38 PM
Why can't it be that the Eagles need to pay him AND he needs to step his game up too?
is anybody not saying that? i'm certainly not. i'm only saying it shouldn't be a surprise and i don't necessarily blame him
haha, igy hit a nerve with mmh
i don't think i would brag much about being a blood sucking pharma worker
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on November 28, 2011, 08:36:38 PM
Why can't it be that the Eagles need to pay him AND he needs to step his game up too?
Because this is CF and reasonable discussion is drowned out with hyperbole and straw man arguments.
"You called DeSean a bitch for alligator arming balls? You must think he sucks, want JAson Avant to start, and hope the eagles don't resign him!"
Quote from: Diomedes on November 28, 2011, 08:36:49 PM
the idea that the Eagles need Jackson, or that he's some kind of Greatest Ever player cracks me up.
The Eagles have had before and will have again incredible players like Jackson.
there will never be a mike wallace, torrey smith or jordy nelsons of the world that can run go routes all day....never.
eagles fans have been so desperate for a wr they think the first guy that comes along is the holy grail of wr's.
the fact that you think calling someone a bitch is reasonable discussion says a lot
I have had before and will have again awesome sentence structure.
Quote from: Diomedes on November 28, 2011, 08:36:49 PM
The Eagles have had before and will have again incredible players like Jackson.
name all the playmakers they have ever had as good as pimp
randall thats pretty much the list
westbrook might be the only other one and hes so good that two hours after he left they have a guy that people are already saying might be better
btw that would be ZERO wide receivers in 78 years
Quote from: MMH on November 28, 2011, 08:39:16 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on November 28, 2011, 08:31:52 PM
Quote from: MMH on November 28, 2011, 08:10:47 PM
If I performed at my job like DeSean performs at his, I would get fired. I certainly wouldn't get rewarded with a promotion and a fat pay check.
you also can be be easily replaced at your job...if you left tomorrow your company wouldnt even blink...and they certainly wouldnt offer to pay you ten times more if you threatened to quit
oh also you arent one of the top playmakers in the nfl...apples and oranges
Quote from: Diomedes on November 28, 2011, 08:21:48 PM
What has he done since the miracle at the meadowlands? [Other than act as a decoy, taunt, shy from contact, drop balls, talk smack, and retreat on punt returns?]
that was 11 games ago...ten of which happened this year....i dnt think anyone is arguing that this year from all aspects has been a disaster
the point is that his first three years in the league he was one of if not the top playmaker in the nfl and everyone around the eagles has gotten caked cept him
kill him if you want for not giving forth max effort this year but trying to degrade him as a player for this season i think is offbase
Actually, fat dumb asses who suck off the public tit can be easily replaced.
I have worked to be fairly unique, one of the reasons I'm still employed in a zesty Pharma environment.
you couldnt possibly be more replaceable...go in tomorrow and threaten to walk if you dont get a 100% raise...lemme know what happens
When you play football, you're going to get hit. Most guys will sell out to make a play for their teammates, to win the game, regardless of how much pay they're receiving.
When you start dropping balls because you're afraid of contact, you're playing like a little bitch, and that is completely reasonable.
yes, Westbrook
others come immediately to mind
Reggie White
Brian Dawkins
have you been watching Shady? He's as good at what he does as DeSean is at his job, at least.
oh, what...no Defensive players allowed?
if I mentioned players seen only on black and white film, no comparisons to other eras allowed?
I hate all of you.
TO was a better playmaker and Quick was as good or better, and maybe just as fast as Jackson. But it isn't about how good a 'playmaker' one is, it is how good a player they are. Irving Fryar had better years for the Eagles than DJ.
Quote from: Diomedes on November 28, 2011, 08:55:41 PM
have you been watching Shady? He's as good at what he does as DeSean is at his job, at least.
shady is wonderfully productive but hes also much easier to replace...pimp isnt the best player in the league or a league mvp type but he brings a skill set that you dont often see in the nfl and you never have seen on the eagles...can you win without him absolutely....but when you get someone like him you should hold on to him because you arent gonna see a guy like him on the eagles anytime soon...so id think twice about dismissing him because he hurt your feelings when he didnt reach for a football
Quote from: Eagaholic on November 28, 2011, 09:12:13 PM
TO was a better playmaker and Quick was as good or better, and maybe just as fast as Jackson. But it isn't about how good a 'playmaker' one is, it is how good a player they are. Irving Fryar had better years for the Eagles than DJ.
quicks 40 time was average at best....he did have above average game speed because of his long strides...but pimp would lap him
TO is a completely different package than pimp...didnt return punts...and while he commanded a safety over the top he wasnt pushing the defense back an extra 10-20 yards on every play....by no means am i saying id rather have pimp than TO but they arent like players...altho TO was known to alligator arm it on occasion and dropped a shteinload of balls
Quote from: ice grillin you on November 28, 2011, 09:19:33 PM
Quote from: Diomedes on November 28, 2011, 08:55:41 PM
have you been watching Shady? He's as good at what he does as DeSean is at his job, at least.
shady is wonderfully productive but hes also much easier to replace...pimp isnt the best player in the league or a league mvp type but he brings a skill set that you dont often see in the nfl and you never have seen on the eagles...can you win without him absolutely....but when you get someone like him you should hold on to him because you arent gonna see a guy like him on the eagles anytime soon...so id think twice about dismissing him because he hurt your feelings when he didnt reach for a football
Quote from: Eagaholic on November 28, 2011, 09:12:13 PM
TO was a better playmaker and Quick was as good or better, and maybe just as fast as Jackson. But it isn't about how good a 'playmaker' one is, it is how good a player they are. Irving Fryar had better years for the Eagles than DJ.
quicks 40 time was average at best....he did have above average game speed because of his long strides...but pimp would lap him
TO is a completely different package than pimp...didnt return punts...and while he commanded a safety over the top he wasnt pushing the defense back an extra 10-20 yards on every play....by no means am i saying id rather have pimp than TO but they arent like players...altho TO was known to alligator arm it on occasion and dropped a shteinload of balls
I was comparing DJ to TO in answering about the zero wrs in 78 years. Quick had elite speed and was maybe the fastest WR in the league in his prime, especially since Cliff Branch was getting over the hill at that point.
man there is some serious revisionist history going on with pimp
people need to check the first page of this thread and remind themselves who they be talkin bout
This is a "what have you done for me lately" league.
http://www.sportsxchange.com/ds97/walsh/walsh2wr.htm
Quote
How I Evaluate Each Position:
Wide Receiver
By Bill Walsh
PSX Draft Insider Special
WIDE RECEIVER
Ideal size: 6-3, 210
The critical factor at wide receiver in my mind is agility and body control, the ability to change your body position often off the g round in order to get your hands in position to make the catch, ala Cris Carter of Minnesota. He would be the ideal in that respect.
That particular characteristic must be there for the receiver to be considered a Pro Bowl or a Hall of Fame player. You must have that to get to the highest tier of play.
Secondly is strength. That is somewhat related to girth. You need to power through players. When you are bounced into players you must be able to keep your feet, regain your balance and move into position and continue your pass route. So there has to be a certain amount of strength, as Jerry Rice or John Taylor demonstrated so often with the 49ers.
Hands are vital, but you almost have to assume that anyone you are considering is going to have outstanding hands. The difference between players is the agility and strength that was mentioned. That allows them to get into position to make the catch, to use their hands.
We can have drills where the receiver is running under the ball and making great catch after great catch. So people would assume that he has outstanding hands. But in reality, most catches are made with the ball and the defender closing at the same instant and the receiver having to reverse his body into a totally different position, get your hands up and catch the ball and be hit at the same moment. That is the key element in greatness -- agility and strength together.
Focus is critical here. The ability to find the ball, focusing on it and isolating it from everything else that's happening. When you are evaluating the tapes, you look for those plays that demonstrate those situations. You make a evaluation tape of those plays.
You establish the criteria that you require. Then you have a tape that demonstrates those requirements.
Pure speed is helpful, but full-stride speed becomes important. You would like a receiver with the ball in the open field to be able to keep the separation with the closing defenders until he gets over the goal line. He doesn't have to outrun them. He doesn't have to gain ground on them. He just has to get there before they do so he scores. So it doesn't have to be sprinters' speed, but full-stride speed.
A good example of that was Mike Quick when he was at Philadelphia. He had just an average 40 time, but once in the open field the long strides gave him the functional speed to stay away or get away from defenders. Dwight Clark, believe it or not, was never caught from behind once he got into full stride. Now he used the field to weave and bend, but he was never caught. And Jerry Rice will never be caught from behind by anyone if they both have the same, basic starting point.
Now there have been other people who have been Olympic sprinters who get tangled up and can't get back into full stride quickly enough and somebody just comes up and overwhelms them from out of nowhere. If they catch the ball and there is any contact at all, by the time they get back in running stride, the people have closed on them. Full-stride speed is the key.
Coaching becomes a factor in regards to their ability to evade at the line of scrimmage and their ability to read the form of coverage and their ability to change a pattern accordingly. That all comes through coaching, training and their focus in a game.
Durability is a factor because they are going to be hit a lot. And they are going to be hit when they are in a vulnerable position at times. And they are going to be hit by much bigger men when they catch a hook pattern against a linebacker.
Injuries are key because at this position injuries impair their ability to function at a high level, especially when compared to, say, an offensive lineman who can play damaged. Wide receivers are finely tuned athletes who need to be in top condition to perform well. If they are in any way damaged, it is difficult for them to function at a high level.
bill walsh don't have shtein on CF when it comes to football knowledge
Quote from: ice grillin you on November 28, 2011, 09:27:43 PM
http://www.sportsxchange.com/ds97/walsh/walsh2wr.htm
Quote
How I Evaluate Each Position:
Wide Receiver
By Bill Walsh
PSX Draft Insider Special
WIDE RECEIVER
Ideal size: 6-3, 210
The critical factor at wide receiver in my mind is agility and body control, the ability to change your body position often off the g round in order to get your hands in position to make the catch, ala Cris Carter of Minnesota. He would be the ideal in that respect.
That particular characteristic must be there for the receiver to be considered a Pro Bowl or a Hall of Fame player. You must have that to get to the highest tier of play.
Secondly is strength. That is somewhat related to girth. You need to power through players. When you are bounced into players you must be able to keep your feet, regain your balance and move into position and continue your pass route. So there has to be a certain amount of strength, as Jerry Rice or John Taylor demonstrated so often with the 49ers.
Hands are vital, but you almost have to assume that anyone you are considering is going to have outstanding hands. The difference between players is the agility and strength that was mentioned. That allows them to get into position to make the catch, to use their hands.
We can have drills where the receiver is running under the ball and making great catch after great catch. So people would assume that he has outstanding hands. But in reality, most catches are made with the ball and the defender closing at the same instant and the receiver having to reverse his body into a totally different position, get your hands up and catch the ball and be hit at the same moment. That is the key element in greatness -- agility and strength together.
Focus is critical here. The ability to find the ball, focusing on it and isolating it from everything else that's happening. When you are evaluating the tapes, you look for those plays that demonstrate those situations. You make a evaluation tape of those plays.
You establish the criteria that you require. Then you have a tape that demonstrates those requirements.
Pure speed is helpful, but full-stride speed becomes important. You would like a receiver with the ball in the open field to be able to keep the separation with the closing defenders until he gets over the goal line. He doesn't have to outrun them. He doesn't have to gain ground on them. He just has to get there before they do so he scores. So it doesn't have to be sprinters' speed, but full-stride speed.
A good example of that was Mike Quick when he was at Philadelphia. He had just an average 40 time, but once in the open field the long strides gave him the functional speed to stay away or get away from defenders. Dwight Clark, believe it or not, was never caught from behind once he got into full stride. Now he used the field to weave and bend, but he was never caught. And Jerry Rice will never be caught from behind by anyone if they both have the same, basic starting point.
Now there have been other people who have been Olympic sprinters who get tangled up and can't get back into full stride quickly enough and somebody just comes up and overwhelms them from out of nowhere. If they catch the ball and there is any contact at all, by the time they get back in running stride, the people have closed on them. Full-stride speed is the key.
Coaching becomes a factor in regards to their ability to evade at the line of scrimmage and their ability to read the form of coverage and their ability to change a pattern accordingly. That all comes through coaching, training and their focus in a game.
Durability is a factor because they are going to be hit a lot. And they are going to be hit when they are in a vulnerable position at times. And they are going to be hit by much bigger men when they catch a hook pattern against a linebacker.
Injuries are key because at this position injuries impair their ability to function at a high level, especially when compared to, say, an offensive lineman who can play damaged. Wide receivers are finely tuned athletes who need to be in top condition to perform well. If they are in any way damaged, it is difficult for them to function at a high level.
Yes, we're saying the same thing. When you talk about the receivers with the best speed, you aren't talking about guys in starting blocks waiting for the gun to go off, you're talking about how fast a guy can beat defenders and get to where he wants to be.
As much as I love Jackson as a player he has shtein the bed this season. You cannot drop as many tds/big-plays like he has and then bitch about money.
He would be wise to take a page out of Matt Forte's book.
Quote from: Eagaholic on November 28, 2011, 11:40:38 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on November 28, 2011, 09:27:43 PM
http://www.sportsxchange.com/ds97/walsh/walsh2wr.htm
Quote
How I Evaluate Each Position:
Wide Receiver
By Bill Walsh
PSX Draft Insider Special
WIDE RECEIVER
Ideal size: 6-3, 210
The critical factor at wide receiver in my mind is agility and body control, the ability to change your body position often off the g round in order to get your hands in position to make the catch, ala Cris Carter of Minnesota. He would be the ideal in that respect.
That particular characteristic must be there for the receiver to be considered a Pro Bowl or a Hall of Fame player. You must have that to get to the highest tier of play.
Secondly is strength. That is somewhat related to girth. You need to power through players. When you are bounced into players you must be able to keep your feet, regain your balance and move into position and continue your pass route. So there has to be a certain amount of strength, as Jerry Rice or John Taylor demonstrated so often with the 49ers.
Hands are vital, but you almost have to assume that anyone you are considering is going to have outstanding hands. The difference between players is the agility and strength that was mentioned. That allows them to get into position to make the catch, to use their hands.
We can have drills where the receiver is running under the ball and making great catch after great catch. So people would assume that he has outstanding hands. But in reality, most catches are made with the ball and the defender closing at the same instant and the receiver having to reverse his body into a totally different position, get your hands up and catch the ball and be hit at the same moment. That is the key element in greatness -- agility and strength together.
Focus is critical here. The ability to find the ball, focusing on it and isolating it from everything else that's happening. When you are evaluating the tapes, you look for those plays that demonstrate those situations. You make a evaluation tape of those plays.
You establish the criteria that you require. Then you have a tape that demonstrates those requirements.
Pure speed is helpful, but full-stride speed becomes important. You would like a receiver with the ball in the open field to be able to keep the separation with the closing defenders until he gets over the goal line. He doesn't have to outrun them. He doesn't have to gain ground on them. He just has to get there before they do so he scores. So it doesn't have to be sprinters' speed, but full-stride speed.
A good example of that was Mike Quick when he was at Philadelphia. He had just an average 40 time, but once in the open field the long strides gave him the functional speed to stay away or get away from defenders. Dwight Clark, believe it or not, was never caught from behind once he got into full stride. Now he used the field to weave and bend, but he was never caught. And Jerry Rice will never be caught from behind by anyone if they both have the same, basic starting point.
Now there have been other people who have been Olympic sprinters who get tangled up and can't get back into full stride quickly enough and somebody just comes up and overwhelms them from out of nowhere. If they catch the ball and there is any contact at all, by the time they get back in running stride, the people have closed on them. Full-stride speed is the key.
Coaching becomes a factor in regards to their ability to evade at the line of scrimmage and their ability to read the form of coverage and their ability to change a pattern accordingly. That all comes through coaching, training and their focus in a game.
Durability is a factor because they are going to be hit a lot. And they are going to be hit when they are in a vulnerable position at times. And they are going to be hit by much bigger men when they catch a hook pattern against a linebacker.
Injuries are key because at this position injuries impair their ability to function at a high level, especially when compared to, say, an offensive lineman who can play damaged. Wide receivers are finely tuned athletes who need to be in top condition to perform well. If they are in any way damaged, it is difficult for them to function at a high level.
Yes, we're saying the same thing. When you talk about the receivers with the best speed, you aren't talking about guys in starting blocks waiting for the gun to go off, you're talking about how fast a guy can beat defenders and get to where he wants to be.
i guess dwight clark had elite speed too....seriously dooks just stop it...quick was more than fast enough to play in the nfl...but he didnt have pimp speed (very few do) or elite speed nor was he even close to being the fastest player in the league
what you are doing is making a common mistake with quick and thats thinking because his name was fast that he was some sort of incredible speed demon...just as mack strong wasnt the most powerful guy in the nfl...this isnt the comics where fast people are named flash and good swimmers aqua...
That speed is nice to have when there's a quarterback that can get him the ball. Until Vick gets back, let's not pretend Jackson is going to do anything but look bad.
Ironic that as igy tries to prove someone wrong about Quick, he ends up making a case against pimp. Check out that ideal size and weight.
Quote from: MDS on November 28, 2011, 09:26:08 PM
man there is some serious revisionist history going on with pimp
people need to check the first page of this thread and remind themselves who they be talkin bout
I'll recheck the first page if you agree to form complete sentences which omit any sort of urban street slang, okay Mr. Elkins Park?
Quote from: General_Failure on November 29, 2011, 07:38:33 AM
That speed is nice to have when there's a quarterback that can get him the ball. Until Vick gets back, let's not pretend Jackson is going to do anything but look bad.
i think its a dead subject anyway because pimp isnt coming back....but im not even sure vick can get him the ball...vick has been very average for almost the last year now
they need to somehow lose out and try and get matt barkley.....socal FTW
I wouldn't assume Jackson is automatically gone after this season. I still think they franchise him.
if they franchise him it will be completely out of spite...which is definitely a possibility with banner inc....but football wise it would be completely assinine...you already lost a season from this guy because of how you treated him so now you are going to ask him to play again on a one year deal (albeit for a lot more money)...you either let him walk or you sign him long term....they cant risk having another year like this one
I think they tag him as well. The franchise tag system is diff now as the the cost has come down considerably. They can tag Jackson for a little over $9 million--which will probably cause even more of a shtein show.
The can put a non-exclusive tag on him--let him negotiate with other teams and see how committed the eagles are to match, or let him go and receive the 2 1st rounders as compensation. I take the latter no question.
Quote from: reese125 on November 29, 2011, 10:07:07 AM
I think they tag him as well. The franchise tag system is diff now as the the cost has come down considerably. They can tag Jackson for a little over $9 million--which will probably cause even more of a shtein show.
the new formula is irrelevant because even if they tag him theres zero chance hes plays next season on a tag
thats fine--he can opt not to sign it and pout until he gets kick out or prove his worth that he can stay on the field and actually catch footballs
Quote from: reese125 on November 29, 2011, 10:36:59 AM
thats fine--he can opt not to sign it and pout until he gets kick out or prove his worth that he can stay on the field and actually catch footballs
or the eagles can choose not to franchise him or franchise him then pull the tag and let him sign elsewhere...or he can sign the tag and get paid nine million for short arming balls all year...point is theres almost no chance he plays under a franchise tag
either way this will not end well for the eagles
why?
because pimp will not be in an eagle uniform next year
Ways it will end:
1. The Eagles re-sign DeSean to a contract he likes. He underperforms.
2. The Eagles re-sign DeSean via franchise tag or short-term contract. He overperforms or underperforms.
3. The Eagles do not re-sign DeSean. He kills it for another team, possibly a rival.
4. The Eagles do not re-sign DeSean. He sucks ass for his new team, but the Eagles don't have a replacement for his lost value anyway.
5. DeSean spontaneously combusts but not while next to Joe Banner.
6. Joe Banner spontaneously combusts right before putting the deal on the table. Andy dies, but surprisingly not of a heart attack. Howie becomes team President and Head Coach. The Eagles go 1-15 in 2012 and plan an anniversary celebration in 2013 for Roseman's first NFL win.
7. farg you.
:-D
IGY, I cant see that happening, although everything that has happened on and off the field indicates you would probably be correct. It will be this frachises biggest blunder.
i say it for two reasons:
1. if my memory serves me correctly lj smith is the only eagle ever to play a season under a tag...maybe someone else can add to this list but i cant recall any others
2. if they wanted to lock him up long term they would have done it long ago
Franchising him makes practically no sense unless they do it with the intent of buying a little extra time to work out a long term deal. If they aren't willing to pay him $9 mil this year, why would they be willing to next year? Granted, franchising him is only a 1 year deal so there's no long term investment in him, but it still doesn't make any sense. He's good enough to franchise but not good enough to pay long(er) term?
I think not doing a deal this season had to do with showing up the player...and maybe knowing there was a chance this season was going to tank (hard to believe with all the signings though).
Maybe its a contingency plan that if this seaoson DID bomb, they would get rid of Reid, and save face by extending the popular Desean Jackson and the Eagles FO would look pretty coming off a horrible season and getting rid of the beloved Andy Reid.
Maybe?
Quote from: Sgt PSN on November 29, 2011, 12:32:34 PM
Franchising him makes practically no sense unless they do it with the intent of buying a little extra time to work out a long term deal. If they aren't willing to pay him $9 mil this year, why would they be willing to next year? Granted, franchising him is only a 1 year deal so there's no long term investment in him, but it still doesn't make any sense. He's good enough to franchise but not good enough to pay long(er) term?
i agree with all this...its why i said if they tag him its going to be out of spite and to delay him hitting the open market...i could see them tagging him and pulling tha tag off in late june
buts its not just the 9 million its the nine million with the risk of him not putting forth 100% again...players hate the franchise tag even if they ultimately end up signing...and regardless of the fact that pimp would be making a lot more its still a one year deal and hes still another concussion away from his career possibly ending or at the very least from his ever getting his big pay day...i just cant see the eagles paying him 8.4 million more than this year witht he fear of them getting the same results
The Eagles have repeatedly tried to sign him to an extension. They want him (although now probably less than they did previously) just not at whatever retarded price he and Drew are demanding.
I'd love him to be reupped but it's just not gonna happen at his asking price. And after watching him this season there's no way they should break the bank on him.
Quote from: Rome on November 29, 2011, 12:49:13 PM
The Eagles have repeatedly tried to sign him to an extension. They want him (although now probably less than they did previously) just not at whatever retarded price he and Drew are demanding.
I'd love him to be reupped but it's just not gonna happen at his asking price. And after watching him this season there's no way they should break the bank on him.
lol
jesus how far up banners butt is rome?
and i say this because i love rome but he is an old angry fart, yet a perfect representative for 60% of the fan base, so most people probably feel the same way--i.e. siding with management and their lowball, spiteful offers over pimp.
So you're saying they should break the bank on Jackson?
Quote from: Sgt PSN on November 29, 2011, 12:58:45 PM
So you're saying they should break the bank on Jackson?
YES. And furthermore, if you disagree, you're an old, fat racist.
break the bank?
hes 1 of like 3 people on earth who can do what he does on a football field. you either value that or you dont.
the eagles have more money than god and are not even remotely close to going "over the cap" which is impossible anyway. they are just a bunch of spiteful, arrogant businessmen who'd rather count beans than win games.
but again the fact that pimp isnt locked up after his first 3 years in the league while steve smith and the rest of the undeserving crowd got theirs is a pretty obvious sign that they are interested in him past this year. itll make old farts like rome and bob costas happy but it will make them a significantly worse team.
I value it. I don't value it despite all reason.
Quote from: MDS on November 29, 2011, 12:55:20 PM
jesus how far up banners butt is rome?
its amazing...i mean he always takes banner incs side but what i wanna know is how does he know all this stuff about what the eagles have offered and what pimp is asking for....because i have not read a or heard a single thing anywhere about contract specifics or even if a contract was ever offered
is this inside spadaro information??
LOL - yep, that's me... Banner fan!
Troll.
its probably a blind love of banner than hes thinking "if that negro jackson and his slimeball agent were asking for a fair price, mr. banner would certainly agree to it."
where as whats actually been reported is that the two sides havent even talked, and with the way pimp is playing, somewhere in a large office in the novacare banner and roseman are celebrating all the coins they will save this offseason.
Quote from: MDS on November 29, 2011, 01:01:33 PM
break the bank?
hes 1 of like 3 people on earth who can do what he does on a football field. you either value that or you dont.
the eagles have more money than god and are not even remotely close to going "over the cap" which is impossible anyway. they are just a bunch of spiteful, arrogant businessmen who'd rather count beans than win games.
but again the fact that pimp isnt locked up after his first 3 years in the league while steve smith and the rest of the undeserving crowd got theirs is a pretty obvious sign that they are interested in him past this year. itll make old farts like rome and bob costas happy but it will make them a significantly worse team.
Minimal spelling errors? Check.
Generally decipherable grammar? Check.
Making a good point? Check.
Quote from: MDS on November 29, 2011, 01:14:27 PM
its probably a blind love of banner than hes thinking "if that negro jackson and his slimeball agent were asking for a fair price, mr. banner would certainly agree to it."
where as whats actually been reported is that the two sides havent even talked, and with the way pimp is playing, somewhere in a large office in the novacare banner and roseman are celebrating all the coins they will save this offseason.
if you want pimp gone because you dont think hes that good or hes not giving 100% this year then fine...but unless you are front office whore i dont see any other reason youd completely make up the fact that the eagles want him back and have made multiple contract offers to him but hes simply asking for too much money
What part of I HOPE HE STAYS is eluding you?
Quote from: ice grillin you on November 29, 2011, 07:25:04 AM
what you are doing is making a common mistake with quick and thats thinking because his name was fast that he was some sort of incredible speed demon...just as mack strong wasnt the most powerful guy in the nfl...this isnt the comics where fast people are named flash and good swimmers aqua...
Yes, I guess that's it. The name. Fooled Madden too, who unlike you obviously can't know much about football either, because that's who I heard comparing Quick to Branch and how very few receivers in the league have the speed to run through double coverage, but Branch was one and Quick had that ability as well.
Quote from: Rome on November 29, 2011, 01:45:14 PM
What part of I HOPE HE STAYS is eluding you?
the part where you act like a cranky 50 year old floridian and kvech about things
Quote from: Rome on November 29, 2011, 01:45:14 PM
What part of I HOPE HE STAYS is eluding you?
i never said you didnt want him to stay...just that you are making stuff up to make the front office look golden
From what I heard the eagles haven't made a single offer. Basically rosenhaus made an offer and the eagles didn't counter. farging morons.
Quote from: Hawk on November 29, 2011, 03:32:41 PM
From what I heard the eagles haven't made a single offer. Basically rosenhaus made an offer and the eagles didn't counter. farging morons.
im not saying thats the case either...im not even killing banner inc and praising pimp...im just simply saying i dont see him on the team next year
all im saying is they have had a year to resign him and instead have signed everyone else in the world except him...and this is includes mega contracts (vick, assy), big contracts (cullen jenkins) significant one year deals (vy, steve smith) and one year cheapies (ronnie brown)
to me they have basically went out of their way NOT to sign him which says they dont really want him....hence the reason i think hes has five games left as an eagle
I think Banner is despicable and Roseman is an incompetent amateur.
I've never once suggested otherwise. As far as making stuff up goes, are you making it up when you say no one knows what contract offers we're made yet at the same time insinuating none were made to Jackson at all?
you said flat out the eagles have made numerous fair offers to pimp but hes rejected them all and countered with retarded demands...100 bucks you got this from spadaro...otherwise you are just making stuff up
i gave my opinion on what has transpired and i came to my opinion because of how ive seen banner inc act and its history
hence me prefacing what i said with "the evidence suggests"...."to me"....and "i think"
IGY getting upset at someone speaking in hyperbole and stating opinions as facts.........hm.
IGY... I'm suggesting that the Eagles absolutely made an offer(s) to Jackson. It's not exactly a leap of logic to assume offers have been made. I don't know if they're fair, unfair, generous or they got laughed out of the room. I can assume that Rosehaus thought they were insulting because Jackson is still without a deal.
All of this is supposition on our part, and honestly, for the last time, I have no love for the front office. If they get something done I like (Nnamdi, Jenkins, re-upping Vick) then I'll say so. If they do something unbelievably stupid (Hello, Juanny) then I'll say that here.
Why you insist on making outlandish comments like "(he) always defends the front office" when I clearly don't is beyond anyone at this point, but I will say that it makes participating in this forum almost intolerable. Just knock it down a notch, already.
Mikey miss has repeatedly said that rosenhaus reached out and gave a ballpark of the contract he wanted and the eagles never countered.
And if I was in deseans shoes I'd be short arming balls too. He got two concussions probably incurring brain damage based on the new studies and he still can't get no love. They told him to show up to camp to start the negotiation process and then proceeded to not make one counter. farg em
The bad thing about all this shtein is that in the long term, Jackson is hurting himself more so than anyone, or team. The Eagles FO treats it's players like the numbers they wear on the field, done it for years. Jackson should have just manned up, played like we all know he can, and no one is calling him a punk bitch. He's going about this the wrong way, he should be making the Eagles brass look like the pricks they are. Instead, he looks like a spoiled little punk bitch.
A spoiled little punk bitch with a concussion history. At the very least, a legitimate reason to be a punk bitch.
If he's that concerned about concussions and his long term health then perhaps he should find another line of work. It's a man's game. Time for him to man up.
hes 2 months away from getting his pay day, after that im pretty sure hell revert back to the pimp of the first 3 years
its just this year he was making next to nothing and had nothing locked up for the future and farg if he was going over the middle for an organization that didnt care about him, his future or his well being. and i cant blame him.
you have to remember this is a team that offers player low ball long term deals, then when the player tells them to farg off, they bench him and ruin his value and throw all sorts of propaganda out about him to kill his reputation (michael lewis). its also a team that draws imaginary lines in the sand and lets legendary players walk out of spite (bdawk).
its banner and howies fault for not keeping their talent happy. leaving pimp hanging in the wind was the worst thing they could have done. but they wanted a year of cheap labor and farg if they werent going to get it.
Quote from: MDS on December 01, 2011, 01:33:36 AM
its banner and howies fault for not keeping their talent happy. leaving pimp hanging in the wind was the worst thing they could have done. but they wanted a year of cheap labor and farg if they werent going to get it.
We always blame Banner and Roseman, but goddamitt, Lurie hired these guys. He sits back watching all this pan out, and does nothing. He doesn't get a free pass on this. He could have stepped in, but I feel that he doesn't like Pimp's attitude, and might think that a long term contract isn't in the teams best interest with the concussions and just the fact that Pimp is a shrimp on the field and thinks he won't last many more years. Personally, I don't feel that way, I think he's a special talent. I've seen his desire on the field in the past, and it's right up there with Dawks. I'll never forget the game agasint the Giants, seeing the closeup on him, banging his helmet with his fist, you could see by the look in his eyes the only thing on his mind was getting that ball in his hands.
They're wrong about him, but it's business as usual up in NovaCare.
Blast the FO all you want, but he's proving them right this year. He's always been inconsistent, but this year, the bad is just as strong as the good. He's always had a high risk of injury, but he's proving that it is affecting his ability to play.
If I were him, I would have just held out. Because that's basically what he's doing by going through the motions, but his market value is diminishing. There is no chance he gets Larry Fitz money. In fact at this point, he is worth more to the Eagles than to any other team.
Quote from: MDS on December 01, 2011, 01:33:36 AM
hes 2 months away from getting his pay day, after that im pretty sure hell revert back to the pimp of the first 3 years
this is the big question...when he gets caked off this offseason and comes back next year and does this same thing then all the butthurt crybaby eagle fans who couldnt make it thru a flag football game can celebrate being right about the uppity negro...but until that happens the eagles as usual made a caluculated decision to farg with their best player and it backfired miserably
That's the beauty of DeSean. Even his best-case scenario will have enough inconsistency to allow the haters to hate.
The only thing I don't understand is how anyone with half a brain can't see that DeSean has handled this situation like shtein start to finish, just like TO did in 2005. Both WR's, both represented by Rosenhaus, both attemping to deal with Joe Banner. Making it about race is a cop-out. The fact is that the on-field antics are just a reflection of an underlying behavioral problem that will ultimately make his career shorter and less lucrative.
The Eagles FO has certainly drawn the line over and over again when ANY player wants to make a big deal about being underpaid, but couple it with quasi-holdouts, agents showing up to training camp, short-arming passes on the field, 60-yard penalties, and running backwards on punt returns... and you're just taking away their options.
I hate Joe Banner for a lot of reasons, and his handling of players who are outperforming their contracts is one of them. But DeSean farged himself just as much or more as anyone else farged him here.
saying he handled it like shtein from start is incredibly inaccurate.
he held out a few days from camp, came in, didn't whine or bitch. gave maximum effort on the field for most of the season, including sprinting 80 yards down the field to catch a guy who intercepted a ball.
also this didnt start in the summer....there has been talk of giving him a new deal for almost two years now....he had a very very good first two seasons....then a great year last year and all he heard from the front office was crickets...yet all these bums around him are getting huge deals?
then like sunny said he came out this year and still did all the right things...but now because of the last couple games when hes finally fed up with the nonsense he starts not giving 100% and all of a sudden hes a bitch and this is why the eagles rightfully didnt give him more money....its a farging joke
the comparison to TO is just so off base its not even funny....TO had just gotten a deal and had a history of being a jerk off...granted he outplayed his deal but he did it in four months and then blew up....pimp has been doing it for three years and short armed a couple balls....point me to one interview print or video where pimp has said one negative word about his situation or the eagles franchise...christ assante has acted up more than pimp...hes played just as bitchy and gave an interview where he said the front office was playing fantasy football...also even tho TO should have gotten more money he was still making millions...pimp makes less than owen schmitt
It keeps getting better.
http://www.myfoxphilly.com/dpp/sports/eagles/desean-jackson-in-racy-club-promo-video-120111 (http://www.myfoxphilly.com/dpp/sports/eagles/desean-jackson-in-racy-club-promo-video-120111)
a pro athlete is throwing a party at a stripclub?
stop the presses
Quote from: reese125 on December 01, 2011, 04:19:29 PM
It keeps getting better.
I think it just DID get better. Finally. Some tits to think about instead of reading you mongoloids drone on and on about this dude.
Diff is Jackson is partying like a rock star posing shirtless the Tuesday after the Arizona loss.
You can't see a problem with that from a guy who is/was a captain of a losing team crying for a big payday? Dont answer that-I already know your answer.
Stop being a racist.
Simmer down, Reese. Are you really shocked about this? Should guys sit in the house?
Quote from: reese125 on December 01, 2011, 04:37:44 PM
Diff is Jackson is partying like a rock star posing shirtless the Tuesday after the Arizona loss.
lol at you worrying about something completely meaningless three weeks after it happened....you didnt even know about till today and now are acting like he was caught on camera partying five minutes after losing to the cardinals in an nfc championship game
corny ass elder
Quote from: reese125 on December 01, 2011, 04:37:44 PM
Diff is Jackson is partying like a rock star posing shirtless the Tuesday after the Arizona loss.
You'd rather he sit home and sulk? Who cares what players do in their off time. They can smoke crack for all I care.
id be salty as farg if he had done something public right after a monster game...christ im still mad at dumb ass victorino for his horrendous tweeting in the days after the cardinal loss....but this wasnt publicized and it followed a completely meaningless game
you guys are missing the point but whatever.
please I dont give a farg what he does in his off time, or any athlete for that matter. just stating the fact that this is not the type of promo shtein you do seeking a big time deal with the "corny ass elders" eagles front office.
lol @ thinking this has even a small effect on his next contract....if the eagles care about players going to strip clubs or throwin parties they might as well cut the whole team
if you can play they want you if not you are gone
see buck being around after the south street smokefest and terrence carroll getting axed
just promise me you'll type hi haters when he blows up tonight
Quote from: SD on December 01, 2011, 07:28:48 PM
Quote from: reese125 on December 01, 2011, 04:37:44 PM
Diff is Jackson is partying like a rock star posing shirtless the Tuesday after the Arizona loss.
You'd rather he sit home and sulk? Who cares what players do in their off time. They can smoke crack for all I care.
I'd rather he stay home unless someone's going to pay him to make an appearance, as opposed to going out and spending money he doesn't have.
the venue pays him to host his party....they stack chedder like mother farger off something like this
Party on, then.
QuoteJeff_McLane Jeff McLane
Are people upset that DeSean Jackson was laughing with Marshawn Lynch as Nnamdi was getting looked at by trainers?
Give it a few weeks.
Checked. Out.
Can't. Blame. Him.
I can't blame him now because the season is over and this team is cooked. why bother trying hard right now? They're not making the playoffs.
But the last few weeks...yeah, I blame him. I don't care how underpaid you are, you show up and you play hard for your teammates...he didn't.
LOL, I'm not defending the FO, but this jackass is getting paid 600K to play a game. He signed the fargin contract. Go to DC, Dallas, or the giants. IMO you are a piece of shtein in my book until you man the farg up and play ball. And farg the FO. Fire this piece of shtein coach now!
QuoteJeff_McLane Jeff McLane
I asked one #Eagles player what was up with DeSean Jackson. His response: "He's f****** around."
now espn is running with the same highlite of vy talking to cooper and saying its pimp ignoring vy
If I were an awesome receiver, I'd ignore zesty quarterbacks too
media just asked about ignoring VY and he gave a "NEXT QUESTION", and when they asked one too many times, he blew them off, turned around to get his shtein and walked away
Goddamn uppity negro!
some other team is going to get a very talented player
good job, banner
Quote from: MDS on December 02, 2011, 12:21:17 AM
some other team is going to get a very talented player
good job, banner
. And how many rings does T.O. Have?
how many buds have you had?
Quote from: phillymic2000 on December 02, 2011, 12:30:36 AM
Quote from: MDS on December 02, 2011, 12:21:17 AM
some other team is going to get a very talented player
good job, banner
. And how many rings does T.O. Have?
You really told him there.
Quote from: BigEd76 on December 02, 2011, 12:20:23 AM
media just asked about ignoring VY and he gave a "NEXT QUESTION", and when they asked one too many times, he blew them off, turned around to get his shtein and walked away
i would too...because vy wasnt talking to him...he was talking to cooper....and there was at least one other camera shot of pimp and vy talking...im not not saying he hasnt dialed it in because he did that after nov 7 when the deadline for putting money on this years cap came and went and he still didnt get an offer
but that particular clip from last night that espn will undoubtedly run one billion times today vy is talking to dropsie cooper not pimp
AR said in today's PC that he's pissed off at NFL Network for portraying DeSean as a quitter and said the plays the network showed were ones where DeSean was only supposed to run interference on the DB
So he's not supposed to pay attention to the quarterback just in case the play called breaks down?
Got it.
Also, it was fairly obvious that Young was looking to him that entire route, his next read was the underneath route. Regardless, it's good to see Reid get out front and defend him.
Reid is a piece of shtein. farg him and his bitch ass complaining. Have your team ready to play and NFL Network won't have to shtein all over your gutless players.
NFL network is gossip central -Eisen is like a 15 year old girl the day after the prom
Rich Eisen and the 9,000 analysts the NFL Network belong on the Soap Opera Network. We don't get it here but I always watch it when I travel and so far not impressed.
The NFL Network is a horrendus station, the only time I tune in is if there's something on about the Eagles or a game. The analyst and commentary are awful, everybody thinks they're an expert and nobody has an original thought. It's geared towards the casual fan when it should be geared towards the hardcore fan. The best coverage is locally because local peops are intuned to the team and what's really going on.
ESPN can barely flush out 24 hours with sports content, what do you expect from a network focussing solely on one football league?
The problem with the network is that is needs to be more Steve Sabol and less Steve Bornstein. They killed anything that was original about NFL Films and lowered the quality of everything to fill time on the network.
Quote from: QB Eagles on December 03, 2011, 11:03:47 AM
ESPN can barely flush out 24 hours with sports content, what do you expect from a network focussing solely on one football league?
The problem with the network is that is needs to be more Steve Sabol and less Steve Bornstein. They killed anything that was original about NFL Films and lowered the quality of everything to fill time on the network.
Sadly, if anything, it's going in the opposite direction. They make ESPN look good, and I've grown to hate that channel.
oh man! why couldn't desean be more like Matt Forte?
You mean helping his team win/possibly make the playoffs for most of the year?
Yeahhh, that would be nice.
yup, lot of good it did him
Didn't realize football was only about him
Edit: To clarify, what I'm frustrated with is the fact that he came back, and then proceeded to start playing like he didn't give a farg. Either come back and play hard and make the Eagles FO look like idiots for not giving you the money, or hold out until you get the $$$$.
http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news?slug=jc-cole_direct_snap_desean_jackson_free_agency_eagles_120611
From the above article regarding Jason Garrett's clock management on Sunday :-D
QuoteAn acquaintance from a fantasy league I belong to tried to console owners of teams that had been eliminated from the playoffs with this thought: "It could be worse! You could have a bomb strapped to your chest set to go off and the 2 man bomb squad who's got to save you in 90 seconds is Andy Reid and Jason Garrett."
(http://jocksandstilettojill.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/DeSeanandMya.png)
i love that woman. 1. alicia keys 2. mya
Best comment on this I saw so far:
"Mya made a pass at him but he shied away from contact"
"dat ass"
A ray of hope
QuoteFor DeSean Jackson, this was a season of growth. More as a person instead of a player.
Jackson let his desire for a contract extension affect him this season, and for that he's sorry.
"I can admit to certain things affecting me during the season. I just kind of want to apologize or whatever the case may be," Jackson said after the Eagles finished their lost season with a 34-10 rout of the taterskins (see story). "I probably could have handled it a little different, but now sitting here after the season's over, I can just say I was able to put it behind me and really just fight for my teammates. Fight for this organization – just really knowing something good out of this situation was going to happen. I was able to finally get to that and just move forward. We'll see how it plays out."
Will Jackson return for a fifth season with the Eagles? He hopes so.
"I don't know if I'm going to be here next year or not," he said. "It's kind of out of my control, out of my powers. I hope that I'll be here. The guys on this team, the fans, it's home for myself, so we'll see how it plays."
Would the franchise tag be OK?
"Why wouldn't it?" Jackson said.
"Hey, it'd be all right. God's got a plan, brother. I'm going to roll with it."
With so many holes to fill, it would be so much easier to tag or re-sign him than to try and find an adequate replacement.
Adequate replacement? Is there such a thing when speaking of Desean? I'm hoping for a tag-then-resign with Jackson and we can all move forward.
God has a plan and evidently that plan involves us going half centuries and beyond without a title.
Thanks, God! Love ya, babe!!
DeSean had about as bad a season as possible and still got nearly 1000 yards and 4 TD's. Gotta have him back.
Agreed, but I'm not sure the two parties are going to make that happen.
why not he just apologized.
Oh, so he did. I'm sure they'll work it out now. No way they could still be wildly apart on numbers now that he's been humbled.
DeSean Jackson's off-season activities are already making headlines:
Deadspin: DeSean Jackson was posing for photos in a strip club at 6 a.m.
QuoteAfter a rough start to the season in which he was bothered by his contract situation (see story), Jackson rebounded and admitted he'd matured. He finished the season with 961 yards receiving, a team-high, and four touchdowns to became just the fifth player in league history to surpass 900 yards receiving in each of his first four seasons (Randy Moss, Jerry Rice, Bob Hayes and Joey Galloway).
In the season-ending win over Washington, he caught a 62-yard TD, the Eagles' longest of the season, that reminded everyone why he should receive an extension.
(http://www.csnphilly.com/common/medialib/162/637766.jpg)
I think this is the right message to send to the FO or whatever team might be interested. By being up and productive at 6am he shows he has the kind of work ethic teams covet in players.
that chicks stomach sticks out farther than her titties.
You're DeSean farging Jackson and you've been rumored to be inside of Mya...why the farg are you getting dry humped by a stripper at 6AM?
that stripper was a man last week
Quote from: Diomedes on January 10, 2012, 07:15:37 PM
that stripper was a man last week
and will still be one next week
That stomach ranks as a 1/2 Havas
That girl got a booty-do.
Hanging with a tranny and wearing a Dodgers hat... Holy shtein, DeSean is hbionic!
Quote from: Sgt PSN on January 10, 2012, 07:30:21 PM
That girl got a booty-do.
And possibly Dunlap Syndrome. Have to see her in jeans to confirm.
Why don't you get working on that one, Chief?
Well, I am taller then DeSean, so I have a chance.
Was listening to one of the bay area sports talk shows tonight while walking and people were calling in demanding the Niners go after Pimp. The host shot them all down saying "you all honestly think Harbaugh's going to replace a diva like Crabtree with a diva like Jackson?"
getting the franchise tag
going to be interesting what they do here. do they keep him or look to trade?
Damn you fargers are fast
Positive sign that at the very least they're going to try to work something out with him
QuoteCredit The Philadelphia Inquirer
The Eagles are going to franchise DeSean Jackson, count on it.
They will not let their Pro Bowl receiver - whose contract is set to expire - walk without getting something in return, according to NFL sources.
So that means the Eagles will do one of three things before March 5:
They will franchise Jackson and keep him for the 2012 season.
They will franchise and then trade him.
Or they will agree to a contract extension with the 25-year-old, an unlikely proposition at this point.
Feb. 20 is the first day NFL teams are permitted to franchise one player before he reaches free agency. March 5 is the deadline. At 4 p.m. on March 13 the league year starts and players with four or more years of service who are not under contract are eligible to become unrestricted free agents.
Jackson, who signed a four-year, $3 million deal as a rookie in 2008, will not reach the open market because the Eagles are expected to franchise him. The receiver would stand to earn approximately $9.5 million - nearly $9 million more than he made in base salary last season - if he played next season under the tag.
Jackson said immediately following the season finale that he would be fine with the franchise designation. While he declined to answer that same question nine days ago while in Indianapolis for the Super Bowl, sources close to the receiver said that he would not balk at signing the Eagles' one-year tender.
The Eagles' motivations for franchising Jackson are clear. For one, they would retain a dynamic receiver - one who is a vital part of their offense - for what could be a Super Bowl-or-bust season. Jeffrey Lurie and Andy Reid have already stressed continuity, with the Eagles owner keeping Reid and with the coach keeping most of his staff in place.
Jackson's play slipped some last season, partly due to his distraction over his contract, but he still caught 58 passes for 961 yards and four touchdowns. His deep routes and ability to take multiple defenders often opened up the Eagles offense underneath.
But a price tag of nearly $10 million - franchised players are paid the average of the top five at their position - could impel the Eagles to franchise Jackson with the intent of trading him.
Jackson's worth is difficult to define. He can score from almost anywhere and in a variety of ways. But when the Eagles advance into the red zone and the field compresses, his production slips dramatically. Last season, he caught just two passes for 14 yards and one touchdown inside the 20.
Patriots wide receiver Wes Welker, a potential free agent, caught 17 passes for 133 yards and six TDs in the red zone. The Saints' Marques Colston (10-97-4), the Chiefs' Dwayne Bowe (7-49-3) and the Chargers' Vincent Jackson (6-29-4) - all possible free agents - also had better numbers than Jackson in the red zone.
The Eagles already have a pretty good red zone receiver in Jeremy Maclin, and tight end Brent Celek and running back LeSean McCoy are viable receiving options close to the goal line.
Still, the team will need to replace Jackson with someone better than backup Riley Cooper if they choose to trade him. The above free agents are candidates, as are a number of second-tier wideouts and possibly one of a number of highly regarded draft prospects.
The Eagles have often said that any player is up for sale for the right offer, but Jackson could bring a significant return from any number of teams that are in need of a playmaker, especially one who stretches the field. Playoff teams like the Patriots, 49ers, and Ravens immediately come to mind.
While player-for-player trades are rare in the NFL, the Eagles could choose to fill a hole at linebacker or safety by parting with a player who plays a position the Eagles are deep in. Of course, the number of talented receivers on the market could make it difficult for the Eagles to find a partner.
While Jackson has said that he wants to remain an Eagle, a trade would open the door for the second-round pick to get the long-term deal he so covets. Any team willing to trade for Jackson would likely want to lock him up for more than one season.
The Eagles still hold negotiating rights to Jackson and still have the opportunity to work out a contract extension. But unless Jackson and his agent, Drew Rosenhaus, drastically drop their asking price - believed to be in the five-year, $50 million range - that proposition is unlikely as the Eagles have typically been steadfast in negotiating.
That doesn't preclude the two sides from agreeing on a new deal after Jackson is franchised. Michael Vick was franchised last year and earned a long-term extension in August. But having a starting quarterback in the last year of a contract is a lot different.
If the Eagles don't like what other teams are offering for Jackson they'll gladly bring him back for another season. But what about next offseason when he's eligible to become a free agent again and the Eagles face a similar situation?
They may just franchise him again.
I really love the idea of him NOT leaving.
That is all.
AR Playbook: Trotter move.
Pimp can just go off on Andy and he will cut him. We get nothing in return, skins sign him. He blows a few years there then comes back diminished. :poison
QuoteAdam Schefter @AdamSchefter Reply Retweet Favorite · Open
Eagles are open to listening to trade offers for free agent wide receiver DeSean Jackson, who is expected to be franchised.
whats the point in even liking football?
get more draft picks. draft more undersized defensive ends. rinse. wash. repeat.
Oh, please, trade him within the division. That'll show him!
there is no possible trade they could make involving pimp that would improve the team this year
and they kept fatass on the basis that he and his prized midget qb were the best possible combo to win the super bowl this year
maybe this is howie playing hardball with pimp (lol @ that working), or maybe its howie just being his incompetent self. i cant wait to see how this plays out. edge of my seat here. farg you.
If they used the franchise money to sign a guy like vincent jackson, you could argue that would improve them.
I'd rather they keep him though.
no you cant really--the two are a wash and both are boom or bust receivers
im very indifferent about desean jackson and what he means to the future of this team. on one hand hes the perfect trade bait to get some serious value in return, on the other I know the eagles will farg it up if they do try and trade him.
If they got rid of Jackson, I would seriously consider not watching an Eagles game this upcoming season as a personal boycott. That's bullshtein.
i would watch all 16
anyone that says they would boycott watching all eagles games probably doesnt watch that many to begin with.
i would wash howies face with a hot iron if that happened
You people watch the Eagles?
Suckers.
Problem for the Eagles is that the f/a Wide Receiver crop is deep this offseason, so nobody is going to part with a high pick for a guy they have to sign like they would someone else. Best they'll do is a 2nd and Jackson is worth way more than that even on a 1 year deal.
Getting rid of him would be a monumentally stupid decision.
Good thing the Eagles brass aren't spiteful children playing fantasy football.
macks numbers have been awesome when pimp isnt on the field
Pimp officially franchise tagged.
Quote"We want DeSean to be an Eagle for the long haul and this is a step in the right direction to accomplish that," said Eagles general manager Howie Roseman.
If this whole scenario somehow works itself out so that DeSean remains with the Eagles, I hope to hell they add some solid WR talent to the bench. Dude is one concussion away from being permanently retarded.
Here's what Rosenhaus had to say
QuoteDeSean Jackson: "I am honored that the Philadelphia Eagles Organization perceives me as a franchise player. I look forward to getting a long term deal done soon and being an Eagle for many years to come"
I smell a winner!
Colston just got 5 years, 40 million
That's a fair deal for a WR of his caliber and should be Jackson back to Earth in regards to his demands for a long term deal.
marques colston IS harrisburg
He's definitely a marquee offensive player, that's for sure.
That's definitely good offensive information.
5 year deal woop
No new jersey for me!
Hopefully he changes his number
Hopefully you change your face.
good video of DeSean's return and the players on their way into and in the locker room
nice footage of Shawn Andrews' reaction, too
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s3GHRllIjX0&feature=related
That was their last significant win. After that it all went to shtein.
The Eagles can get out of DeSean Jackson's five-year, $47 million contract relatively pain free following the 2013 season.
Jackson's deal contains $15 million guaranteed, $14.75 million of which are paid in the first two seasons. He received a $10 million signing bonus and base salaries of $750,000 and $6.75 million in 2012 and 2013, respectively. In 2014, Jackson's base salary leaps to $10.25 million, and only $250K of that number is guaranteed for both skill and injury. So, essentially, Jackson's deal can be reduced to a two-year, $17.9 million commitment.
NIXON RESIGNS
Lol
Pimp bein pimp (http://t.co/FY1v46cf)
Quote from: FastFreddie on April 30, 2012, 06:47:31 PM
Pimp bein pimp (http://t.co/FY1v46cf)
He didn't wait long to acquire some new bling. $100 says the first thing he bought was new rims.
Quote from: SD on April 30, 2012, 06:51:00 PM
Quote from: FastFreddie on April 30, 2012, 06:47:31 PM
Pimp bein pimp (http://t.co/FY1v46cf)
He didn't wait long to acquire some new bling. $100 says the first thing he bought was new rims.
$1000 says he'll be broke 5 years after he retires.
yea i know right
what a dumb stillupfront
why do we give them money lol jk
You give him money 'cause he's worth it and is an outstanding football player. What he does with it is up to him and as long as he's on the field helping the Eagles win games I could give a flying farg how he spends his money.
It will be interesting to see how worth it he really is this year, now that he got his money and all...
The only worry I have about Jackson at this point is health. I predict he will suffer another concussion and miss four to six games, and possibly more.
There isn't a lot of room for him to soak up punishment before he's broken, if he isn't already. I think he's genuinely gunshy, and not that his alligator arm performances last year had anything to do with protecting his health while waiting to get paid.
To me he hasn't been the same player since that D. Robinson hit, and rightfully so. I really hope he can over come all that and be that big threat he is capable of being. And we pray...
Quote from: mussa on May 01, 2012, 07:18:45 AM
To me he hasn't been the same player since that D. Robinson hit, and rightfully so. I really hope he can over come all that and be that big threat he is capable of being. And we pray...
his first game back from the concussion he went for 7-109-1
a month after the concussion he had his career high yardage game 4-210-1
the concussion has little to nothing to do with his numbers...several factors:
1. vick has regressed
2. the offensive line has struggled much of the last two years not allowing him the time to get deep
3. shady has emerged big time...2009 he had 173 carries - last year 263 carries
4. contract issues last year
Your #4 should be #1
All of those factors clearly play a role. And let's not forget that the Miracle at the New Meadowlands happened a couple months after the Robinson concussion.
Still, the point is that brain injuries are cumulative and he's already had his share. One more could be disastrous, so I assume it will happen sooner than later.
Quote from: SD on May 01, 2012, 07:47:00 AM
Your #4 should be #1
thats by far the bottom of the list
other than touchdowns which were way down his 2011 numbers are more or less the same as 2010
the main difference is that vick was not out of his mind and regressed...when your qb goes from an mvp candidate to just another qb other guys on the team are going to suffer
also the amount of double teams and attention he gets has steadily gone up each year particularly the strategy of moving a safety over top him and moving him way back
the contract is a neat thing for the media and internet to talk about but it was a very small factor
put it this way i dont see his numbers making a huge jump this season because hes now caked off...i would expect more touchdowns because he pretty much has to get more than one...but i see another 55-65 catch season for 1000ish yards and five td's
Quote from: ice grillin you on May 01, 2012, 07:45:34 AM
Quote from: mussa on May 01, 2012, 07:18:45 AM
To me he hasn't been the same player since that D. Robinson hit, and rightfully so. I really hope he can over come all that and be that big threat he is capable of being. And we pray...
his first game back from the concussion he went for 7-109-1
a month after the concussion he had his career high yardage game 4-210-1
the concussion has little to nothing to do with his numbers...several factors:
1. vick has regressed
2. the offensive line has struggled much of the last two years not allowing him the time to get deep
3. shady has emerged big time...2009 he had 173 carries - last year 263 carries
4. contract issues last year
I can see the reasoning and that is what a common football fan might think, but stats don't tell the whole story and and if you really watch him you'd see he was just flat out afraid to get his bell rung again.
you can count on one hand the number of wr's who didnt try to avoid a big hit in the nfl last year...and this includes pimp in games before he ever had a concussion or contract issues
its just that when the player in question is on your team and theres the contract thing in the media every day you become too close to the situation and start seeing things you think are there but arent or you think were never there before when they were
Care to extend that argument by claiming that Pinkston was no less fearful of the big hit than any other WR in the league at the time.
Yeah, I didn't think so.
Quote from: Diomedes on May 01, 2012, 09:36:18 AM
Care to extend that argument by claiming that Pinkston was no less fearful of the big hit than any other WR in the league at the time.
Yeah, I didn't think so.
pinkston thing was way overblown as well because of one agregious play against the skins...that play took on a life of its own and skewed peoples perceptions to outrageous levels...he was a limited straight line wr who was a solid contributor...nothing more nothing less...but to have that one play define his whole tenure here was going overboard...he went up and got plenty of balls thruout his career and took hits...was he calvin johnson or anquan boldin obviously not...but he wasnt any different than a million other wr's
i understand why it happens but you have to look at the big picture and not pigeon hole a player into being something they arent simply because of one play or two
ricky waters was a great back for the eagles but all you hear about him to this day is "for who...for what"
The only reason Brian Westbrook had a long career was his knack for avoiding the big hit. DeSean's already had his bell rung enough times... He should damn well be avoiding contact.
Quote from: FastFreddie on May 01, 2012, 10:45:44 AMThe only reason Brian Westbrook had a long career was his knack for avoiding the big hit.
Well that and he was the best football player on the field in almost every game he played for several years.
Quote from: FastFreddie on May 01, 2012, 10:45:44 AM
The only reason Brian Westbrook had a long career was his knack for avoiding the big hit. DeSean's already had his bell rung enough times... He should damn well be avoiding contact.
he had his bell rung one time...he avoided hits before that play and hes avoided hits since that play...and he will continue to avoid hits as you said he should
what i dont get is the notion that some people have that he was some sort of tough in tight quarters slot wr before the concussion and now is a completely different player...
he certainly had a play or two last year where he wasnt going all out because of his contract but hes the same guy now that he was when he came into the league...a big play wr who needs to make more big plays this season than he did last season
Quote from: ice grillin you on May 01, 2012, 08:01:00 AM
put it this way i dont see his numbers making a huge jump this season because hes now caked off...i would expect more touchdowns because he pretty much has to get more than one...but i see another 55-65 catch season for 1000ish yards and five td's
I hope you aren't figuring punt returns into that stat, 'cause I'm looking forward to him taking one or two all the way for td's. I think last year the contract figured more into his play than anything, and now that all that shtein is settled, he can concentrate on nothing but football.
Let's hope so anyway.
Jackson didn't go all out last season because he was afraid of getting injured which would have farged his payday up. The other items on the list are after thoughts. Anyone who watching Jackson could tell he was looking out for himself. I don't really blame him because another concussion could have cost him millions of dollars, but at the same time he dogged it and took a lot of dives. I pulled the PIMP mantra from my name repertoire until he re-proves himself.
Avoiding hits running after the catch can be ok, avoiding hits by not catching the ball is NOT ok, he's a damn receiver.
Quote from: shorebird on May 01, 2012, 04:15:55 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on May 01, 2012, 08:01:00 AM
put it this way i dont see his numbers making a huge jump this season because hes now caked off...i would expect more touchdowns because he pretty much has to get more than one...but i see another 55-65 catch season for 1000ish yards and five td's
I hope you aren't figuring punt returns into that stat, 'cause I'm looking forward to him taking one or two all the way for td's. I think last year the contract figured more into his play than anything, and now that all that shtein is settled, he can concentrate on nothing but football.
Let's hope so anyway.
im not advocating this but it wouldnt shock me if boykin is the punt returner next year
I wouldn't like it, but I can see it happening and I'd understand.
they could to what they used to do with bwest--putting the load on someone else and picking their spots when to use pimp
late game, need a play, need some yards, need to make something, etc. otherwise dont bother.
Inside the last two minutes of every away game against the Giants.
its not going to air until the new season....but this fall e60 will be having a segment on pimp
Per TMZ he was pulled over by a fleshpophead trooper on his way to his charity event this morning. Reason for getting pulled over was tinted windows and being drunk. Apparently the trooper was a fleshpop to him the entire time and made him do field sobriety tests.
I can't link it but Adam Caplan tweeted the TMZ link
drunk in the AM?
my homie!!
The trooper made DJax take a field sobriety test because he was drunk? What an ass.
he obviously didnt know who it was
what to set an example, role model
-white people
Quote from: Sgt PSN on May 12, 2012, 07:23:14 PM
The trooper made DJax take a field sobriety test because he was drunk? What an ass.
He wasn't drunk and the trooper was said to have been an icehole by people who witnessed. I'd link the story but I'm posting from my phone.
oh so he wasnt drunk
hat part wasnt exactly clear in your og post
Yeah my bad..
He wasn't drunk, just black and uppity looking.
The cop was black too
Sounds like that scene at the beginning of "Don't Be a Menace to South Central While Drinking Your Juice in the Hood."
or in every black movie ever made that was set in LA
http://www.tmz.com/2012/05/12/desean-jackson-pulled-over/?adid=hero2
rocket surgery finding this link
Good job, reporter. Do the heavy lifting.
Quote from: FastFreddie on May 12, 2012, 08:34:12 PM
Sounds like that scene at the beginning of "Don't Be a Menace to South Central While Drinking Your Juice in the Hood."
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CxVG20cBioA (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CxVG20cBioA)
Quote from: Feva on May 13, 2012, 02:17:43 AM
Quote from: FastFreddie on May 12, 2012, 08:34:12 PM
Sounds like that scene at the beginning of "Don't Be a Menace to South Central While Drinking Your Juice in the Hood."
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CxVG20cBioA (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CxVG20cBioA)
I actually completely forgot that it was Bernie Mac. Damn. RIP
http://www.tmz.com/2012/05/12/desean-jackson-pulled-over
link has photos of the scene, describes the cop as a blowhard and that DeSean followed all orders without complaint
Well, good for him.
if an officer stops you....promise me youll always be polite...and that youll never ever run away and promise mama youll keep your hands in sight
Sound advice.
Yo.
Quote from: ice grillin you on May 13, 2012, 12:32:59 PM
if an officer stops you....promise me youll always be polite...and that youll never ever run away and promise mama youll keep your hands in sight
Rule #3 in the 'How to survive in America as a black man'
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Every time a pic or Desean off the field status is posted it's just foreshadowing to 2 years after he retires and we read about him being broke.
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That's a fly ride.
Shorts and socks to match
surprised igs hasn't bought that necklace yet
Nattitude (http://www.philly.com/philly/sports/eagles/20120516_Eagles__DeSean_Jackson_has_a_new_attitude.html)
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Jackson is hard at work....on a rap album.
Good to see he's focused on his job.
hes not allen iverson trying to rap....he actually owns a record company
didnt stop bernie williams....shaq...oscar dela hoya...or your beloved soccer guys like alexi lalas and clint dempsey
the haters be hatin on pimp so hard...i dont really get it but whatever...its only gonna make us stronger
...ooh, ooh, you said, "us"!
Can he surpass the lyrical genius that is What's Up Doc? (Can We Rock). I say no.
I have a tent pitched in that camp.
Quote from: General_Failure on June 16, 2012, 12:04:14 PM
Can he surpass the lyrical genius that is What's Up Doc? (Can We Rock). I say no.
Lol....I have the Fu Schnickens album with that track on it.
Quote from: ice grillin you on June 16, 2012, 09:05:41 AM
hes not allen iverson trying to rap....he actually owns a record company
didnt stop bernie williams....shaq...oscar dela hoya...or your beloved soccer guys like alexi lalas and clint dempsey
the haters be hatin on pimp so hard...i dont really get it but whatever...its only gonna make us stronger
I think what Dio was suggesting is maybe he should be spending more time honing his professional craft (you know, the one he actually gets paid by someone else to do) instead of wasting his time coming with rhymes for the word, orange.
Or not. Maybe Dio just hates young black entrepreneurs.
tons of athletes have done music....some have made the hall of fame some have been scrubs....btw thousands of other atletes have had spent time on entrepreneurial endeavors in general...but somehow pimp is special and shouldnt be doing it
attack pimp all you want....but come up with something better than this
Yeah, I can't say I have a problem with it. It's not like he can get significantly better as a player by working out all the time. He's 5'nothing, 150lbs. So unless he magically has a growth spurt to 6'2"/220, he is what he is...a dynamic, but somewhat limited receiver.
Don't really see the big deal. It's the offseason. He could do something really stupid like running with the bulls.
Or trying to hop wrought iron fences.
Or he could do nothing except work out and study his playbook. Sounds like a fun life.
Typical white people speak. Hate all you want. There is only 1 motherfarger who can do what he do
I'm not convinced he can do what he used to do. I'd feel better about it if he were concentrating on training, working out, etc., rather than starting a rap career.
Step 1: Play balls out amazing.
Step 2: Suffer minor injuries.
Step 3: Start music career.
Step 4: Not play an entire year.
Step 5: Get cut, become backup for Giants.
Quote from: Diomedes on June 16, 2012, 08:58:08 PM
I'm not convinced he can do what he used to do. I'd feel better about it if he were concentrating on training, working out, etc., rather than starting a rap career.
White people better not say nuthin' bad about a brother.
Quote from: shorebird on June 17, 2012, 09:39:52 PM
Quote from: Diomedes on June 16, 2012, 08:58:08 PM
I'm not convinced he can do what he used to do. I'd feel better about it if he were concentrating on training, working out, etc., rather than starting a rap career.
White people better not say nuthin' bad about a brother.
you are a big fan of place kickers arent you?
...place kickers...yeah...
What's not to love about place kickers? They're so humble about their lack of athletic ability.
http://abclocal.go.com/wpvi/video?id=8722338
awful
Jaccpot
Maybe he should shop for glasses in the children's section.
The other day he tweeted "dime do work" with a link to a picture. The picture was just the #10.
Quote from: Diomedes on July 03, 2012, 06:54:34 AM
http://abclocal.go.com/wpvi/video?id=8722338
awful
I'd rather hear Andy Griffith rap.
Anyone see that new nike commercial with pimp in it? Pretty dope commercial, I must say.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uf6UpiiLWaY
I'm not sure I've ever loved an athlete more than I love him
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That was tear inducing.
http://espn.go.com/nfl/trainingcamp12/story/_/id/8285546/desean-jackson-philadelphia-eagles-give-full-effort-2011
QuoteWhen asked about instances when his effort was questioned, Jackson said: "I let it get to me, even though I tried not to let it. I was trying to protect myself from getting hurt -- now I'm just giving it all."
Desean admits to what everyone already knew.
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One of his many entertaining moments last night... He's going to be a clear #1 this year ahead of Maclin. 1200+ yards.
He may be the best WR in the league at tackling/running down the intercepting DB.
QuoteThe Media love twisting my damn words up .. An they always wondering why I don't wanna talk 2 they ass .. That shtein is un - professional
lol i love him more and more every day
http://cowboyszone.com/forums/dallascowboys.php?t=241438
QuoteFor those who listen to Meek Mill I was at his concert and at the end alot of Philly celebs came out and he was 1 of them. I said some unflattering stuff to him he got really mad and sent 1 of his people over to tell me to shutup. I told them loud enough so he can hear it theres a new defense in Dallas and do not come over the middle. He got visibly mad again and I said not that you ever do that anyway and he told me shut up a couple times and kept walking. Not a big deal just thought I'd share cause I cant stand DJ
Tough guy!
Yeah, go ahead and fan the flames to that fire. It seems that Dallas fans have a short memory. I don't remember Dallas even coming close to beating the Eagles last year. Pimp had 90 yds. recieving the second game. The Eagles didn't even need him the first game with Celek catching 7 for 94 yds. and Jason friggen' Avant catching 5 for 74 yds. in a blowout. Dallas's D stops no one going over the middle or anywere else on the field.
HA! No Dallas fan has a right to say anything about any of the Eagles. They whipped up on Dallas last year for a point total of 54 to 14.
Yes...Dallas Sucks.
I was reading some of that thread. A bunch of the posters told the guy that he should have kept talking shtein cause DJ couldn't do anything? I'm sure there were some bouncers/security for Meek Mills and company that would have handled the situation...
What kind of losers runs their mouth to a random athlete at a concert...
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I thought it was 12 seconds?
The refs added 2 seconds
(He also spent 6 seconds running along the goal line)
Some of my heart tissue died during those six seconds.
http://www.philly.com/philly/sports/eagles/DeSean-on-returning-punts-Anything-for-the-team.html
Make it happen
oh im sorry, cant do it
johnson needs to call more fair catches inside the 10
Things like that are what really drive me nuts. How many times can you tell a guy o not do something? That falls directly on April and Reid. You tell him after the first game where he does it and if he continues to do it...you yank his ass.
Quote"During the game, me and one of my teammates, he actually said, 'Man, they are sitting there and booing us.' For that to be our support team — Philadelphia fans, they are definitely the type of people where if you're doing good they love you but once you're doing bad it's like the world is going to end. To be out there and hear our home [crowd] booing us, it's a crazy feeling at times. Once again, we only care about the 53-men on that team, our coaches and the organization. Back's against the wall. Whoever else is against us, we realize that. Sometimes our own fans can be against us as well."
Desean showing he's Cali soft like Cole. Suck it up and play better. Has Jackson made a big play this season? Let's be honest, he hasn't been PIMP since 2010 walkoff against NY.
And we don't boo because you suck, we boo because of the lack of effort. There's enough talent on this team to play better than you have for the past month.
Someone else want to take this.
Evil black thuggery and not enough jump balls.
hes always been like that. pimp is pimp. hes a total frontrunner.
out of pure ignorance im going to blame his god awful qb and his inability to extend the field on the lack of big plays for pimp. get him a real qb or vick circa 2010 and hes BACK
uppity negros like jimmy and pimp have no place in sports
GRIT and salt of the earth is where its at
I wonder how many more times we can have this exact same conversation. Hopefully many many more times. Because it's awesome.
this team is full of yappers and not enough playmakers. they worry about the fans and the media and who says what instead of shutting the farg up and play. all talk.
Seriously - if you're elite, you make plays regardless of who's around you. Steve Smith in Carolina is a good example. Andre Johnson in Houston for pretty much his whole career is another. Jackson to me is quickly becoming another guy....he's running on equity he built on a few plays in the past.
Quote from: rjs246 on November 01, 2012, 08:30:06 AM
I wonder how many more times we can have this exact same conversation. Hopefully many many more times. Because it's awesome.
Should be the central theme of your Nawlinz trip.
hes playing with the worst qb in the nfl on arguably the worst offense in the nfl and hes still in the top 20 in yards and ypc...and thats with an offense who cant strike down the field which is pimps specialty
get him a qb who can get him the ball where it needs to be and hes one of the best playmakers in the nfl again just like the half a season where vick was good...the only thing missing in his game right now is the big plays because they eagles literally cant throw the ball downfield
DeSean is basically the same as Maclin, except faster, shiftier, more durable, more cocky, and about an inch shorter.
I farging hate Maclin anymore. He's like "insert nameless WR2 here."
Quote from: PhillyPhanInDC on November 01, 2012, 10:11:21 AM
Seriously - if you're elite, you make plays regardless of who's around you. Steve Smith in Carolina is a good example. Andre Johnson in Houston for pretty much his whole career is another. Jackson to me is quickly becoming another guy....he's running on equity he built on a few plays in the past.
Steve Smith had absolutely terrible numbers when Carolina was carouseling qbs like Chris Wanke and Matt Moore
Quote from: FastFreddie on November 01, 2012, 10:58:18 AM
I farging hate Maclin anymore. He's like "insert nameless WR2 here."
any team can get a mack any offseason....granted he to would be better with a real qb....but yeah hes a dime a dozen good wr
Wrong.
He's above above-average and less than stellar.
He's actually a time traveling robot.
Quote from: ice grillin you on November 01, 2012, 12:53:42 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on November 01, 2012, 12:34:06 PM
but yeah hes a dime a dozen good wr
Quote from: hbionic on November 01, 2012, 12:49:55 PM
He's above above-average and less than stellar.
wouldnt that be "good"
By your definition no. You infer that there are so many good receivers in the league, that they are a dime a dozen. I think you use that term loosely. There are a handful of good receivers and less stellar receivers...the rest are thrash.
i wasnt inferring anything i was saying there are many many wr's as good as him....and not just in the nfl....shtein theres some in college also...
put it this way if he lost a leg tomorrow i wouldnt eve blink an eye and in fact id be a little excited to see what they could replace him with and possibly get better
Quote from: Tomahawk on November 01, 2012, 11:15:54 AM
Quote from: PhillyPhanInDC on November 01, 2012, 10:11:21 AM
Seriously - if you're elite, you make plays regardless of who's around you. Steve Smith in Carolina is a good example. Andre Johnson in Houston for pretty much his whole career is another. Jackson to me is quickly becoming another guy....he's running on equity he built on a few plays in the past.
Steve Smith had absolutely terrible numbers when Carolina was carouseling qbs like Chris Wanke and Matt Moore
Of course his season totals sucked. My point was that with zesty QB play Steve Smith still make unreal plays. When was the last time you saw Jackson break a big one?
That's because Steve Smith still has cast iron balls no matter how hard he gets hit when he catches the ball.
Jackson is still shook from getting Daunte Robinsoned.
Quote from: ice grillin you on November 01, 2012, 02:33:49 PM
i wasnt inferring anything i was saying there are many many wr's as good as him....and not just in the nfl....shtein theres some in college also...
put it this way if he lost a leg tomorrow i wouldnt eve blink an eye and in fact id be a little excited to see what they could replace him with and possibly get better
Really? Ok, I know they've been zesty drafts, but historically look at the receivers we've had here in the last 12 years.
Day in and day out, over that same time span, how many other receivers can you say have the same consistency. He's tough, fast, and catches most balls thrown his way.
I'm going to disagree.
*There's a good chance that due to the fact we've had shtein receivers here, maybe he looks better to me than he is.
Quote from: reese125 on November 01, 2012, 03:25:35 PM
That's because Steve Smith still has cast iron balls no matter how hard he gets hit when he catches the ball.
Jackson is still shook from getting Daunte Robinsoned.
hes caught like 35 balls this year most all of them short/underneath/over the middle....in other words not in the open field where he can run away from people but high traffic areas where he can get hit
and the irony is that one of the few deeps balls they have connected on this year was his amazing catch down the sideline against the ravens where he knew he was gonna get hit and then got murdered by ed reed
stop with the idiotic dunta robinson stuff...you sould like the 16 year old wip caller who just repeats what he heard three years ago and still continues to say it....hes never going to be anquan boldin...thats not who he is nor should you want him to be....trust me when he was scoring touchdowns his first few years it wasnt because he was taking monster hits that could end his career
in fact his first start immediately after the dunta game he went for 7-107-1 and even had 3 rushes for 25 yards
and arguably the best game of his career was a few games later when he went for over 200 yards against dallas....this notion that the minute the dunta robinson hit occured his whole career changed is so assinine i dont even know where to start
This guy cried and played like dogshtein to get a big contract and wamted to be paid like he was big time, but fails to produce on a weekly basis. His every sunday stats can be put up by anyone.
This fascination eagles fans have with speed at wr because they were entrenched in garbage at the position for so many years is farging silly. "Pay him anything he wants", "Jackson is a god"...unreal. Your favorite boy is the classic boom or bust receiver. Grab a hug and except it.
Who was the last receiver the Eagles have had of Maclin's quality not named Jackson or Owens?
You said in one sentence what I tried to say in two paragraphs.
My admiration for you is high mi-lord. My admiration for my brain is non-existent.
DeSean hasn't played well on the road since Miracle in the Meadowlands XXX
Babin was bitching about the fans too.
If I had wrote that prior to saying Jackson was bitching this thread would be going in a different direction.
Lets talk about Babin instead, that will be very satisfying.
Quote from: SD on November 01, 2012, 06:43:55 PM
If I had wrote that prior to saying Jackson was bitching this thread would be going in a different direction.
of course it would because people want to like the white guy so bad....especially an underdog guy with a dood like personality...everyone raving about him last year with all his sacks was a joke...i took so much shtein last year for saying he was a complete waste of life and one of the most selfish guys ive ever seen on the field...
i dont blame people because football is a hard game to watch but while the dont mean nothing stats in football mean less than any other sport....you have to "watch" the games...which happens very rarely in football anymore because of fantasy and red zone and shtein like that....its so frustrating to have to try and talk sports with the reeses of the world...
lol
Quote from: SD on November 01, 2012, 06:43:55 PM
Babin was bitching about the fans too.
If I had wrote that prior to saying Jackson was bitching this thread would be going in a different direction.
Not really because not one fan cares about Jason Babin. What he did last year was an unexpected surprise. Not to mention he wasn't trying to get paid like Mario Willams
Quote from: hbionic on November 01, 2012, 01:55:03 PM
By your definition no. You infer that there are so many good receivers in the league, that they are a dime a dozen. I think you use that term loosely. There are a handful of good receivers and less stellar receivers...the rest are thrash.
nice one!
Of course objectively, Thrash played for 12 seasons in the NFL which means he is well above average.
broken ribs. IR
Oddly enough, upon the Xray they determined he has no heart
Quote from: Seabiscuit36 on November 27, 2012, 12:35:29 PM
Oddly enough, upon the Xray they determined he has no heart
lol
:-D The farging Tin Man.
45/700/2
TALENT
only three less touchdowns than calvin johnson in five less games
I wouldn't be upset if they moved on
more amendola's less pimps is the direction id move in
you'll move in the direction of any loudmouth black kid
he's done...Dunta took his spark and he's been pedestrian ever since
the best game of his career was a month after dunta and the game immediately after dunta was 100+ yards and a touch....but why let facts get in the way of ripping uppity negros
Quote from: ice grillin you on December 31, 2012, 12:22:59 PM
only three less touchdowns than calvin johnson in five less games
there is something seriously wrong with you. you know that, right?
the facts are Jackson is a decent #2 and not the best WR on the Eagles
yea he sucks and vick doesnt
Remember when Maclin couldn't produce without Jackson on the other side?
lol
yeah, maclin really lit the world on fire this year. great argument
He did just fine when a real QB was throwing the ball.
And that real QB is a nerdy looking slow white rookie.
oh, well he did fine. that's a ringing endorsement.
I could have said he did great, looking at his stats.
Point is, he's better than Jackson and does not need Jackson opposite of him like some here indicated in the past.
yeah, he's not better than jackson. but you've hand an anti-desean thing going on for awhile so that's not hard to believe.
I love DeSean, I have trouble deciding who I like watching more between him and Shady. He's by far the bigger threat, but Maclin is the better all around receiver.
i don't know how you say that. other than size, i don't see one attribute that maclin ranks ahead of desean in. desean is faster, quicker, hands are probably a wash, and desean is tougher.
They're both pieces of glass. being faster and quicker doesn't make DeSean better. Damaris Johnson is faster and quicker than both of them
I'm lost - give me cliff notes.
Who is hating on Jackson?
Who says Maclin isn't good?
That man in the straw, over there.
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on December 31, 2012, 08:01:54 PM
I'm lost - give me cliff notes.
Who is hating on Jackson?
Who says Maclin isn't good?
I hate DeSean Jackson because he is an uppity black. I have repeatedly said he has no talent and he is a worthless human being.
I have gay love for Maclin. I regularly assert that he is superior in every way to Jackson. All because he is a good house slave.
it's good to see you cleansing your soul before the new year
He's just making room for more scotch. Or gin. Maybe both.
Better than Maclin or your "Pimp":
(http://media.philly.com/images/072812-riley_cooper-tc-400.jpg)
better hair, that's for sure
You say that now, but I've heard a rumor that 2013 is the year of white boy cornrows.
Motherfargers would cut their hair if I was coach. Who the hell are you to give the opponent an extra way to grab onto you? Cut that shtein and your attitude or get the farg off my team, pretty boy.
pimp loves him sum sloppy second 20-yr olds (http://www.gossipdaily.com/nfl-star-desean-jackson-is-dating-diddys-son-justin-ex-girlfriend-and-shes-gorgeous/)
lol @ sloppy seconds...after you graduate high school, you're never banging a virgin again.
body is ridiculous...face is meh
PIMP
Quote from: Tomahawk on January 18, 2013, 08:21:30 AM
lol @ sloppy seconds...after you graduate high school, you're never banging a virgin again.
Haha. Exactly. And who the farg would want to?
Quote from: rjs246 on January 18, 2013, 10:15:41 AM
Quote from: Tomahawk on January 18, 2013, 08:21:30 AM
lol @ sloppy seconds...after you graduate high school, you're never banging a virgin again.
Haha. Exactly. And who the farg would want to?
Muslim extremists. But not just virgins.....dead virgins!
pimp is excited about Chip
Quote"I was looking at what he did at Oregon. My little cousin is actually De'Anthony Thomas, the Black Mamba, so our styles are kind of similar. What he's done in that offense as far as lighting it up and getting in that end zone, that's what I'm excited about."
"Just being in different positions in the offense, being able to come into 2013 with a different look, no defense out there will have ever seen anything the Philadelphia Eagles have done. If Chip Kelly's able to bring that edge to the table where we can go out there and keep people off-guard, and people won't know what we're doing... I'm very excited about the opportunity."
im excited for him to do something relevant for the first time since the return in the giants game
think about that. since that punt return IN 2010 hes done as many memorable things on the field as i have done.
He's nothing more than an expensive Demaris Johnson.
That's farging idiotic.
Wub you and all but just retarded.
He's done nothing even remotely #1ish for a long time. He's just a quick cat who's afraid to get hit because he's one more concussion away from the CTE express.
Maclin is the best Eagles WR and Jackson might not be the second best.
Give him a quarterback who doesn't suck and he's a Pro Bowler.
i know through a handful of games this season when i looked, jackson was one of the few receivers who didn't have a drop. i thought he played pretty well before the season went to hell this year. he's never going to be a redzone threat because of his size unless he's used intelligently, but he could still easily be a 1000-1150 yd receiver.
dio watches more raven games than eagle games but yous are gonna debate him on pimp?
hanging w/ Snoop in Vegas (http://instagram.com/p/X01vQIONk0/)
snoop lion or dog?
Quote from: BigEd76 on April 10, 2013, 02:45:35 PM
hanging w/ Snoop in Vegas (http://instagram.com/p/X01vQIONk0/)
and dissin' sick Jersey stillupfronts (http://www.crossingbroad.com/2013/04/well-that-was-zesty-desean-jackson.html)
Actually, I don't fault him for that at all. Vegas hos>>>>>>>>>>>>>sick kids.
Your link sucks because of the filter
Haha. Oops.
Evidently, he posted one of those dumb ecards on his instagram today that said "Im high on life. Or maybe its the pot. Yea, its the pot"
Smart guy.
lol....if thats true thats great
smoke em if ya got em....just dont test positive for anything
I mentioned this once before but I met him and Maclin at a Sixers game the Friday before Pimps GW PR against the Giants - they walked in mid-2nd quarter and smelled so good I wanted to smoke them both myself. No homo.
haha
This is what he posted..
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BKVG6upCAAApPTh.jpg:large)
Role. Model.
Quote from: DH on May 15, 2013, 04:11:15 PM
This is what he posted..
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BKVG6upCAAApPTh.jpg:large)
street cred lost
Pimp has a documentary coming out (http://www.phillymag.com/eagles/2013/05/15/desean-jackson-documentary-reveals-much/) about him and his father prepping him for the NFL. Says he and Andy didn't get off to a great start.
Quote"Hey, I just want to say one thing," said Jackson, calling together his inner circle. "I was on the phone with Andy Reid. He said, 'I don't want your family to be a problem. I don't want to deal with your dad.' He said some bad things. I just wanted to let you know. That's kind of messed up, though."
father of the year andy reid telling other people how to parent
there it is
in his defense he was probably just doing anything he could not to get another wilma
Man, I am sooo glad that fat farg is gone out of Philly.
He fired Rosenhaus today.
Odds on Jay-Z's new agency repping him?
-240
hes not a businessman.....hes a business....man
http://www.phillymag.com/eagles/2013/06/02/desean-jackson-parts-with-agent-drew-rosenhaus/
Quote@Jeff_McLane: RT @CharlesRobinson: Y! Sports: Drew Rosenhaus has filed a grievance against former client DeSean Jackson for $400k in outstanding loans.
That's what you get for loaning an idiot $400k.
i love the kid but he might be the dumbest athlete in philly sports history
A game can end in a tie?
vick hands down takes the crown of dumbest athlete in philly sports
:diobatsignal
http://instagram.com/p/ay06pouNga/#
lol.
Right towards the end as the 2 are jumping off the balcony, there's a dude at ground level holding a weeble wobble and right after dudes jump in, he throws it way up in the air. Wasn't really paying attention the first time and thought it was a kid.
haha....i missed that...what the hell?
Meh
At least he wasn't caught smoking crack, killing a member of his posse or beating the shtein out of some bimbo.
how many brain cells does he have...like 4?
http://www.shotofginn.com/2013/06/desean-jackson-wr-philadelphia-eagles.html
lol
http://youtu.be/ePwOi2p1SQ8
he actually sounded better than snoop
lol at the diamond wipe at 0:21
we really have to take seriously the theory that he is dumber than vick
yeah that was the best part, i think i can do that in imovie.
pimp was so awesome on sportscenter last night
What was up with the completely disinterested looking skank in the limo with DJac? And yeah, Snoop definitely mailed it in on that one.
Quote from: Sgt PSN on July 18, 2013, 09:12:17 AM
What was up with the completely disinterested looking skank in the limo with DJac? And yeah, Snoop definitely mailed it in on that one.
that is incredibly accurate. Is that his older sister that he dragged along or something? She looks very unimpressed.
Remix guaranteed to make anyone over 40 get the rage sweats.
http://www.sbnation.com/nfl/2013/7/18/4534600/desean-jackson-rap-video-eagles (http://www.sbnation.com/nfl/2013/7/18/4534600/desean-jackson-rap-video-eagles)
im a whore for pimp but im gonna have to give it a thumbs up
Haha....that was legit.
im really white
Quote from: methdeez on July 18, 2013, 03:18:52 PM
Remix guaranteed to make anyone over 40 get the rage sweats.
http://www.sbnation.com/nfl/2013/7/18/4534600/desean-jackson-rap-video-eagles (http://www.sbnation.com/nfl/2013/7/18/4534600/desean-jackson-rap-video-eagles)
:boom
Jackson is a cancer. The problem is: if you dump him, you turn him into a monster for 1 year of "revenge effort". I suggest we murder him and disperse his body in a body of water.
I too hate incredibly talented players who make dumb decisions sometimes. They're the worst.
DeSean Jackson is a zesty version of Allen Iverson playing football. His personality is infectious. Money doesn't change a person it makes a person more of what they already are. Jackpot is spewing everywhere, whether it's at a party, in a limo, at a strip club, or on the field. He is now a veteran on a team the lacks leadership.
Jackpot/Pimp/InevitablyBrokeLoser whatever you want to call him, gives less than 100% on every play that doesn't feature him. Which just furthers our dependance on his big play ability as he is worthless when he is not featured. He can't block and no longer returns punts. I don't hate DeSean, I think in the end he causes more trouble than he is worth/
Quote from: Chameleon on July 18, 2013, 11:51:20 PM
DeSean Jackson raps wears big shiny jewelry and has lots of tattoos so i am going to make up all kinds of stuff about him rather than do what i really want which is to call him a dumb stillupfront
Holy shtein. It keeps getting better: http://the700level.com/eagles/video-merrill-reese-dramatic-reading-of-desean-jacksons-rap-song-diamonds-on-my-neck/ (http://the700level.com/eagles/video-merrill-reese-dramatic-reading-of-desean-jacksons-rap-song-diamonds-on-my-neck/)
lol @ Havas.
As much criticism as he deserves for the last 2 years, lol @ calling him out for blocking.
1. He's like 150lbs. Of course he sucks at blocking. It's not like he's going to seal off any edges in the running or screen game.
2. He is constantly downfield blocking on big plays when other Eagles players have the ball. Can't think of any specific plays off the top of my head, but I know I've seen that midget blocking downfield to help someone else get in/closer to the end zone.
3. I do specifically remember him saving a TD chasing down someone from the Jets who was returning an int or fumble.
Please go back to not posting. You're more likable that way.
Also, that Merrill bit is great.
you mean you dont think pimp is a cancer because he isnt throwin his head at jason pierrre pauls knees?
Quote from: ice grillin you on July 19, 2013, 01:05:04 PM
you mean you dont think pimp is a cancer because he isnt throwin his head at jason pierrre pauls knees?
Just throw his helmet.
Quote from: Sgt PSN on July 19, 2013, 01:02:14 PM
3. I do specifically remember him saving a TD chasing down someone from the Jets who was returning an int or fumble.
He had that incredible play in the 2008 NFCG where he chased down Aaron Francisco after a int., punched the ball out and the birds got the ball back.
I love DeSean but if he asked for advise, I'd tell him this: Shut the farg up and play. That's it. Earn your money and help this team win games. No one gives a shtein about your idiotic rap career or your personal life. Your football skills are all we care about. The universe gave you incredible athletic ability, so don't piss it away.
...and he'd listen.
He'd pull a Kanye on me but that's cool. I'd farg his wife in the ass and make him watch.
Desean was on pace for 1100 yards with zesty QB play last year before getting hurt vs Carolina.
Oh and he also had dropped 0 passes all season when PFF did their study in November.
https://www.profootballfocus.com/blog/2012/11/01/signature-stat-snapshot-drop-rate-wrs/
I don't support everything he does but trashing him after last year is dumb. I expect big things from him year and have much more confidence in him than Maclin going forward.
If these clowns can protect whoever is playing quarterback he's going to have a huge season. Shady is the one who's going to blow up, though. He might get 1,000/1,000.
Quote from: Rome on July 19, 2013, 06:00:24 PM
If these clowns can protect whoever is playing quarterback he's going to have a huge season. Shady is the one who's going to blow up, though. He might get 1,000/1,000.
I agree shady is perfect for this offense....my concern with him blowing up tho would be his touches....Im not sure chip doesn't rotate backs more including polk getting touches (he didnt have any last year)
also theres a reason there is 15 h back/te types on this team
Quote from: Eagles_Legendz on July 19, 2013, 05:52:54 PM
Desean was on pace for 1100 yards with zesty QB play last year before getting hurt vs Carolina.
Oh and he also had dropped 0 passes all season when PFF did their study in November.
https://www.profootballfocus.com/blog/2012/11/01/signature-stat-snapshot-drop-rate-wrs/
I don't support everything he does but trashing him after last year is dumb. I expect big things from him year and have much more confidence in him than Maclin going forward.
people who hate his persona are going to ignore stuff like this...that said his play is open for criticism...he hasn't been as good as he can be the last couple years...for a myriad of reasons...I cant stand when people make up stuff about him as a person or player because he raps or is iced down...its like no one has ever watched an interview of the kid?....he always says the right things....hes not TO mouthing off....he doesn't crush coaches or other players....he handles himself well
when kevin cobb wrastles wild boar during his offseason its so cool....when pimp pursues his rap career its being a cancer
Quote from: ice grillin you on July 19, 2013, 06:35:31 PM
when kevin cobb wrastles wild boar during his offseason its so cool....when pimp pursues his rap career its being a cancer
lol
He shouldn't be pursuing a rap career because he completely and totally farging sucks at it. Just sayin'...
Quote from: Rome on July 19, 2013, 06:47:28 PM
He shouldn't be pursuing a rap career because he completely and totally farging sucks at it. Just sayin'...
Also, lol.
Kids like Jackson don't write a thank you for the Christmas present, they're walking on their pants with their cap on backwards listening to the Enema Man and Snoopy Snoopy Poop Dogg...
Quote from: Rome on July 19, 2013, 06:47:28 PM
He shouldn't be pursuing a rap career because he completely and totally farging sucks at it. Just sayin'...
you suck at being a person yet here you are, still breathing
pursues his rap career...lol
there is no rap career for this idiot. there are a bunch of producers and other yes men who will take his money and pump him up, but when the money is gone--and it will be gone before he's 35--so are they.
Quote from: Diomedes on July 19, 2013, 09:29:58 PM
pursues his rap career...lol
there is no rap career for this idiot. there are a bunch of producers and other yes men who will take his money and pump him up, but when the money is gone--and it will be gone before he's 35--so are they.
hipster mockss and then roots for young black kid to fail.....rinse wash repeat
he should dig ditches and sell fresh produce at an off brand farmers market during the offseason
that would make douche-omedes happy
Quote from: MDS on July 19, 2013, 08:56:54 PM
Quote from: Rome on July 19, 2013, 06:47:28 PM
He shouldn't be pursuing a rap career because he completely and totally farging sucks at it. Just sayin'...
you suck at being a person yet here you are, still breathing
Quote from: MDS on July 19, 2013, 10:10:26 PM
he should dig ditches and sell fresh produce at an off brand farmers market during the offseason
that would make douche-omedes happy
(http://www.coldwinterknights.net/images/FinalIronyMeter.gif)
What he should mostly do is train intensely and get his body into the best possible physical condition. And he should also, you know, study the fargin playbook. That's what dedicated professional athletes do. What he shouldn't do is sit around a recording studio figuring out rhymes for the word orange.
^^^Old racist whitey thinks he knows what's best for young black buck. /hippo
Indubitably, old chap!
Meh... making a big deal out of nothing. All he did was rap. The way this offseason has gone for many NFL players, this was a much more productive use of his down time.
Well, rapping is much better than working out or honing your chosen professional craft especially in comparison to murdering people.
Quote from: Geowhizzer on July 20, 2013, 09:49:20 AM
Meh... making a big deal out of nothing. All he did was rap.
finally.....sanity
I don't care about him rapping either. But like Rome said, he's really farging bad at it. If he had some skill, I wouldn't mind at all if he spent time in the offseason working on his spit game. But he sucks at it and will always suck at it and I would prefer he spend that time working on something he's already good at, like football.
Quote from: Rome on July 20, 2013, 10:30:57 AM
Well, rapping is much better than working out or honing your chosen professional craft especially in comparison to murdering people.
Yeah, he should be nothing but football 24/7, just like you and I are at our jobs.
players are allowed to do anything in their offseason except rap
Stupid players spending time on things they're not good at. Who the hell do they think they are?!
Quote from: ice grillin you on July 20, 2013, 12:38:41 PM
players are allowed to do anything in their offseason except rap
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BPmWZs0CAAAqzop.jpg)
He's allowed to do anything he wants. No one is saying anything of the kind otherwise. And my job doesn't require me to be in top shape physically to excel. His does. Add to the fact that he's got a brand new coaching staff, new playbook to learn, and probably a new quarterback to play with, yeah, this might not be the offseason to be focusing on your outside interests. And that doesn't go just for DeSean. He's by far my favorite player on this team, after all. It goes for all those dipshteins.
your favorite player is riley cooper
Quote from: Rome on July 20, 2013, 04:53:07 PM
this might not be the offseason to be focusing on your outside interests.
How many hours when he would have otherwise been training do you think it took him to write "I got them diamonds on my neck and they straight for my D-boys"?
Quote from: QB Eagles on July 20, 2013, 05:59:03 PM
Quote from: Rome on July 20, 2013, 04:53:07 PM
this might not be the offseason to be focusing on your outside interests.
How many hours when he would have otherwise been training do you think it took him to write "I got them diamonds on my neck and they straight for my D-boys"?
he could have run at least two or three self imposed 40's
Quote from: Geowhizzer on July 20, 2013, 09:49:20 AM
Meh... making a big deal out of nothing. All he did was rap. The way this offseason has gone for many NFL players, this was a much more productive use of his down time.
Exactly. Who friggen' cares? How many athletes have done this in the past? A lot. Pimp a cancer? Hardly. TO was a cancer.
The season can't get here soon enough.
Ricky Watters did it better, but he is six foot one, second to none.
They say art imitates life.
(http://i.imgur.com/b53TIuI.jpg)
Did you buy it?
Either that or buried it in one of the freshly dug ditches?
that would be too good for the loud mouth....definitely had to be melted down before burial
:diobatsignal
https://twitter.com/MySportsLegion/status/376813520715014144/photo/1
Nice tits.
(http://i.imgur.com/QsIJPZ8.gif)
that's awesome
thats PIMP
I farging love it
QuoteReuben Frank @RoobCSN 9m
DeSean's 5,310 career yds 10th-most in NFL history by player before 27th birthday. Passed Isaac Bruce today [5,288]. Needs 74 yards for 7th.
He also has the most 50+yd catches in the NFL since 2008
can you imagine if he actually had a big legit wr opposite him
Or a real quarterback.
Quote@SheilKapadia: DeSean Jackson leads all WRs with 589 yards. Current pace projects him for 91 catches/1,570 yards/13 TDs.
but hes terrible and sells out
where my white eagle fans at!
They're busy slurping Shady because, you know, they're racist.
McCoy is so well spoken. I mean, I assume he is. I've never heard him speak, so I'm just going by his lack of crazy ethnic hair or tattoos.
Quote from: General_Failure on October 14, 2013, 02:10:25 AM
McCoy is so well spoken.
thank god you said it and not me
i might have said articulate tho
Shady is more "well-spoken" than DeSean (not exactly hard to do), but dude isn't up there sounding like Carlton from the Fresh Prince. He's everything a racist whitey would love to hate...had a kid out of wedlock that he allegedly doesn't support, he was somewhat outspoken during the Cooper situation, he talks shtein all the time. Not to mention he's a complete moron on twitter like most athletes are. But people love him because, outside of AP, he's probably the best RB in the NFL.
DeSean is a talented dude who has been inconsistent over his career. Hopefully this season is the year he finally becomes 'the guy' that can do it week in and week out.
Twitter doesn't count.
it does if you worship all the white guys on the eagles who have beards
One of my buddies went to Pitt when Shady was there and played basketball w/ him a few times. Said every other word out of his mouth was stillupfront. Obviously.
But he's more articulate when he says it, so white people like him and not DeSean. It's very clearly a race issue, okay.
I know some white guys who are exactly the same way.
Well spoken?
I don't know any white guys like that.
I know some white guys who know who this team's true #1 option is. Just look at this insight after the training camp fight between Riley and Kerry Williams
QuoteSeems like Mike Vick understands that Cooper is his best option. Cooper can potentially get Vick a lot of praise.
http://instagram.com/p/gHMf-FONjg/#
holy FAP thats going to end up being like the mlk/malcolm photo
god damn AI is blazed.
he might have to laser off that "money bagz" tat on his hand
one of the greatest photos ever
2 philly legends, much respect
and jesus yes AI looks GONE
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on October 30, 2013, 09:01:32 PM
http://instagram.com/p/gHMf-FONjg/#
so whats that face under AI's arm...can't tell if thats a dude sitting down or a portrait on AIs jacket.
Quote from: ice grillin you on October 30, 2013, 09:29:56 PM
holy FAP thats going to end up being like the mlk/malcolm photo
And ha. yes.
Quote from: phattymatty on October 30, 2013, 10:01:18 PM
so whats that face under AI's arm...can't tell if thats a dude sitting down or a portrait on AIs jacket.
Pretty sure that's a kid.
(https://scontent-a-iad.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/1379345_10152373568807516_1557985632_n.jpg)
It's good to see Todd Mccullough involved with the Sixers organization again
pimp is going to be on game changers today.....holla atcha boi
what the hell is game changers?
my bad
cbs 1130
Quote@RoobCSN: DeSean [5770 yards] turns 27 today. Only 3 WRs have had more before 27th birthday: Moss [8375], Larry Fitz [6241], Calvin Johnson [6241].[\quote]
It's insane how good Moss was when he came into the league. 2000 more yards than Megatron....really wouldn't have thought there was that much of a difference between them.
Makes me wonder where Jackson's numbers would be if he had more consistency at QB and if Dunta Robinson didn't exist.
And Chris Carter on the field with him.
pimp's birfday cakes (http://the700level.com/eagles/cake-cake-cake-what-taste-better-desean-jacksons-benz-or-the-stack-of-benjamins/)
nice of his friends to throw him a party at Chuck E Cheese
he is quite possibly dumber than vick
Seriously. They didn't even get the best custom cake company he could afford.
Lol @ "Jaccpot." It'd make sense if his name were Jaccson, but since it isn't I'm just going to assume his friends are bigger idiots than he is.
QuoteReuben Frank @RoobCSN 5m
Interesting note: DeSean is only the 15th player in NFL history with three or more games with at least 190 receiving yards.
He's putting together one hell of a year.
Didn't know it until this morning but I guess he was yelling at Avant for calling him out on that pick. Originally thought he was giving it to a coach.
link (http://www.philly.com/philly/sports/eagles/20131216_Explosive_day_for_DeSean__on_and_off_the_field.html)
QuoteThe wide receiver had a career day, but the Eagles fell to the lowly Vikings, 48-30, and Jackson was caught by cameras having to be held back by his teammates on the sideline after Nick Foles tossed a third-quarter interception.
It was apparently the wr coach who said more or less that Jackson didn't try for the ball on the INT. After that, he exploded on the field so whatever. He responded.
non-issue. get ready for the bears.
get ready to give up a 70 spot to the bears
Jackson didn't even consider defending that interception, he should have been called out.
I'll call him out when he acts like a diva bitch but I don't think he even saw the DB until is was way too late.
If you look at the replay he was wide ass open early then got suckered at the end. Whatever. It's really a non-story unless you're hellbent on making it one.
dio despises pimp
poor form. you forgot the hipster part
rome already knew that.....whereas i dont think he realizes the level of hatred you have for pimp
QuoteReuben Frank @RoobCSN 5m
On locker clean out day, DeSean says he deserves a new contract: "I definitely feel it's something deserving. We'll see how that plays out."
i love the guy, but he's not a premier #1. he can't get open on his own against a good corner. he's a burner and has to be accounted for, but he gets shut down too easily for me to think he deserves top tier money. i thought the contract he signed last time was fair, but maybe it was a banner swirly pop special.
Yeah I don't recall the exact details...let me see if I can find it
Looks like he counts $12M next year http://www.eaglescap.com/next.html
http://www.eaglescap.com/Players/DeSeanJackson.html
QuoteRe-signed for 5 years, $47,000,000 during the 2012 offseason. The deal included a 10M signing bonus prorated over 5 years
who knows but the Eagles might like a change to rework that deal anyway to lower the cap number. $10m guaranteed is not a lot though
They have between $17M-$20M in cap room it looks like...but next year is when they will need to make sure they roll some forward because the 2012 draft class will need to be extended
howies on it
no worries
http://www.csnphilly.com/football-philadelphia-eagles/desean-jackson-hopes-eagles-re-do-his-contract
going to be interesting to see how much howies approach to these things differs from banners....if at all
I was just thinking I wonder what Chipper is gonna say during his PC...ya know the writers will ask him about it.
Andy would sweep it under the rug...I'm betting Chip at least addresses it or says "that's for Howie, I just coach" rather than "I'm not gonna get into all that"
Funny how these guys never offer money back when they play like shtein.
Whatever though. His deal is fine but if he can squeeze more money out of them, good for him.
They don't have to offer it back because they can be cut if they stink
It would behoove the Eagles to re-do it because he's gonna count 12m against the cap.
Quote from: Rome on January 06, 2014, 12:42:25 PM
Funny how these guys never offer money back when they play like shtein.
when a player sucks he gets cut and all the non guaranteed money in his deal is 'given back'
im still waiting for an owner to give money back to the fans when the team stinks
Much ado about nothing.
Chip says "i am not a contract guy...I don't talk about contracts"
Quote from: ice grillin you on January 06, 2014, 12:50:57 PM
Quote from: Rome on January 06, 2014, 12:42:25 PM
Funny how these guys never offer money back when they play like shtein.
when a player sucks he gets cut and all the non guaranteed money in his deal is 'given back'
im still waiting for an owner to give money back to the fans when the team stinks
Demetress Bell sez hi.
Cost of doing biz....like a failed investment
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on January 06, 2014, 02:54:06 PM
Cost of doing biz....like a failed investment
but when the front office fails they arent expected to give money back to the fans
interesting
Not really because it is entertainment.
However I would be in favor of them doing a good-will type discount on season tickets where after a dismal season they issued a credit of some sort.
Bahahagahahagahahhhfhcgusghn
eagles gave a $10 concession voucher for simply reserving your playoff tickets this year.....i had a beer on saturday nite courtesy of jeffy....i thought that was pretty cool
I still get a huge lol when people think that owners should refund some money or offer discounted tickets when the team sucks. Because if that's the case, then they should also raise ticket prices when the team is really good. If memory serves me correctly, between 2000 and 2004, the Eagles were middle of the pack when it came to ticket prices and were probably around the same in terms of raising ticket prices. Hell, they may have even been towards the bottom of the league when it came to raising ticket costs in comparison to other teams. But I didn't see fans lining up offering to throw an extra $20 worth of good will when buying their tickets because they put a really good product on the field.
Unless the game is cancelled, farg your discounts and refunds.
lets take money from poor blacks and give it to rich whites
Quote from: Sgt PSN on January 06, 2014, 03:27:52 PM
I still get a huge lol when people think that owners should refund some money or offer discounted tickets when the team sucks. Because if that's the case, then they should also raise ticket prices when the team is really good. If memory serves me correctly, between 2000 and 2004, the Eagles were middle of the pack when it came to ticket prices and were probably around the same in terms of raising ticket prices. Hell, they may have even been towards the bottom of the league when it came to raising ticket costs in comparison to other teams. But I didn't see fans lining up offering to throw an extra $20 worth of good will when buying their tickets because they put a really good product on the field.
Unless the game is cancelled, farg your discounts and refunds.
lolol....no one actually believes this.....it was a sarcastic response to romey wanting players to give back money when they dont play well
If jackson gets more money, good for him, but I don't see how he's outperformed his contracted. He's had two seasons on a 5 yr 47 mil deal. One year he missed a significant portion of time and this year he played very well, obviously. Don't really see that as getting a new deal territory but whatever.
Quote from: ice grillin you on January 06, 2014, 03:32:06 PM
lolol....no one actually believes this.....it was a sarcastic response to romey wanting players to give back money when they dont play well
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on January 06, 2014, 03:12:15 PM
However I would be in favor of them doing a good-will type discount on season tickets where after a dismal season they issued a credit of some sort.
Jay's hardly the 1st person I've ever heard say this, or something along the same lines. And I'm sure Jay's comments were more wishful thinking rather than a solid opinion, but there are a ton of people out there who legitimately think that they are owed some sort of refund or discount when their favorite team underperforms. They're awful people and should eat bullets.
you have to stop looking at the deal in its entirety because no one ever plays out a full nfl contract. look at the signing bonus ($10M) and the guaranteed money (??).
Next year he has a good chunk of money coming to him but no more is guaranteed now and so i'm sure he wants to get some of the money left guaranteed. as i mentioned earlier his cap number next year is $12M so its in the Eagles' interest to do something to lower that cap number.
I wouldn't lower his number. They have cap room now but will probably be tight in '15/'16. Desean is healthy and coming off a nice season. I'd rather him get the guaranteed money in '14 and be freed up to keep/cut/trade him down the road as they see fit without worrying about creating dead money.
I have no idea why he thinks he deserves more money now. He played well and got paid what he deserved, his contract is right in line with his performance.
Quote from: Sgt PSN on January 06, 2014, 03:37:56 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on January 06, 2014, 03:32:06 PM
lolol....no one actually believes this.....it was a sarcastic response to romey wanting players to give back money when they dont play well
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on January 06, 2014, 03:12:15 PM
However I would be in favor of them doing a good-will type discount on season tickets where after a dismal season they issued a credit of some sort.
Jay's hardly the 1st person I've ever heard say this, or something along the same lines. And I'm sure Jay's comments were more wishful thinking rather than a solid opinion, but there are a ton of people out there who legitimately think that they are owed some sort of refund or discount when their favorite team underperforms. They're awful people and should eat bullets.
Mine were based off PR feel good campaign's. People who expect to be compensated? That's funny. However if a team preemptively came out and said "ya know what? We didn't play up to our expectations and as a loyal ticket holder we're offering your a $50 rebate on your season tickets".
That would go a long way. People like free shtein. My company can royally farg an order up and many times I can squelch the anger by delivering their next order for free...we charge $35 for delivery.
I think the only way that could realistically ever happen is if they said they were lowering ticket prices a little the next year, and even then it would just be to stave off an expected drop in sales.
Jackson is the eighth highest paid receiver in terms of APY in the NFL. He was ninth in receiving yards in 2013. He's getting paid almost exactly what he has coming to him in terms of performance. That said, I actually hope he breaks the bank because I love the guy. Sunny's right about his cap number being the best reason to re-do his deal, though. According to the numbers I saw he only has $15M guaranteed. That's way too low compared to guys of his caliber.
Either way I'm fine with caking him off again.
I'd personally tell Cooper best of luck and get a cheaper alternative in the draft. I'd pay Maclin because he's not going to get a monster deal because of his injury. Pay him a 3/$25M deal that is loaded with incentives with $10M guaranteed
Rome for GM?
Quote from: Rome on January 06, 2014, 05:40:26 PM
Jackson is the eighth highest paid receiver in terms of APY in the NFL. He was ninth in receiving yards in 2013. He's getting paid almost exactly what he has coming to him in terms of performance. That said, I actually hope he breaks the bank because I love the guy. Sunny's right about his cap number being the best reason to re-do his deal, though. According to the numbers I saw he only has $15M guaranteed. That's way too low compared to guys of his caliber.
Either way I'm fine with caking him off again.
I'd personally tell Cooper best of luck and get a cheaper alternative in the draft. I'd pay Maclin because he's not going to get a monster deal because of his injury. Pay him a 3/$25M deal that is loaded with incentives with $10M guaranteed
He had $17 million guaranteed which is 36% of his contract. 36% is actually pretty good, especially for a player that had injury or other concerns.
a ten million dollar signing bonus is not enough...he should get caked
the simple solution to me seems like to just guarantee the last three years of his deal and call it a day
Lol. $35 million
its actually like 27-28 mil...more than worth it for pimp
one mil for every play per game he takes off
and believe me i love the kid
pimp says on Instagram that he didn't ask for a new contract:
http://instagram.com/p/i2lMATuNt1/#
...but Roob has quotes from him:
Quote"We'll see how that plays out, and hopefully we can work things out smoothly and not have to worry about anything out of the ordinary.
"But I definitely feel like it's deserving. I'm proven in this league, and after this past year, went out there, no distractions, and just really put it all in for my team and went out there and had a lot of success, so we'll see how it goes."
"Honestly, I feel very confident that my agent will work something out," Jackson said. "I feel like I have a great agent, that's what he's for, that's what his job is, all I have to really worry about is staying out of trouble and keeping my nose clean and doing the things I need to do, working on my craft and playing football.
"I think this year was a big statement for my team and for myself and the things we were able to accomplish and do. I definitely feel it's deserving. Hopefully we can get it worked out and see how it goes."
...so I guess those were all made up or something.....or he thinks "new" and "restructured" are two separate things...
QuoteTheManOfSeal
@RoobCSN What was the question that led to him saying it? Did he offer it on his own or was he asked whether he wants a new contract?
QuoteRoobCSN
"DeSean, are you happy with your contract?" Asked in context of him firing his agent
It's like Jackson wants to Revis his way out of town. He hasn't realistically outperformed his relatively new contract to the point he should even be considering being a distraction.
I'm inclined to see the Eagles accommodate him if possible.
pimp 'n momba
QuoteDeseanJackson10
Come turn up tonight in Miami wit me & my lil bro ibeondat6 ClubDream .. http://instagram.com/p/i7EptQONgP/
Me & lil bro ibeondat6 lik waaaaat http://instagram.com/p/i7ytaGONs2/
QuoteEATBLACKMOMBA6
2014 IS OUR YEAR TO TAKE OVER AND DO POSITIVE THINGS ON THE FIELD AND OFF THE FIELD#RUNDAT #JACCPOT... http://instagram.com/p/i71YT_IVGh/
QuoteDave Kinchen @DKinchenFOX29 3m
BREAKING: @DeseanJackson10 's S. Philly house burglarized. $250K, $125K in jewelry and two guns stolen. EXCLUSIVE details @ 10 @FOX29philly
lol
I half want this to be a terrible coverup for him having to get rid of those guns after shooting somebody.
All a thief has to do is monitor IG or Twitter....oh, Pimp is in Miami?
Lets go jack his place
Jackson needs the pay raise so he can afford a security system and/or one of Vick's dogs.
Quote from: General_Failure on January 11, 2014, 07:18:09 PM
or one of Vick's dogs.
especially if your house is being robbed by a dog
I've seen a convenience store robbed by a duck. Why not a dog robbing houses?
Just thinking out loud...but who the farg keeps $250k in cash at home.
Quote from: hbionic on January 11, 2014, 07:30:17 PM
Just thinking out loud...but who the farg keeps $250k in cash at home.
a P-I-M-P
Also literal pimps.
btw that renegotiation thing just got real
Quote from: hbionic on January 11, 2014, 07:30:17 PM
Just thinking out loud...but who the farg keeps $250k in cash at home.
A dumbass
No doubt he's broke within 5 years after retirement. But he's just a victim
Well he is a victim of burglary.
He's a victim of his own stupidity...why would you a) need to own that much jewelry and b) keep it in your residence.
It probably wouldn't last very long in a Public Storage garage.
lol and so it begins
Well, at least he was smart enough to not be home to defend the place with a machete.
Quote from: Munson on January 11, 2014, 08:30:46 PM
Well, at least he was smart enough to not be home to defend the place with a machete.
lol
Desean Jackson is the 1%
The good news is his Super Bowl rings weren't stolen.
"black people are stupid"
got it
Quote from: MDS on January 12, 2014, 12:41:40 AM
"black people are stupid"
got it
loud young rich jewelry wearing black people are
jason avant is a victim
pimp is a dumbass
Riley Cooper is a victim. Why doesn't he have the right to use the N word?
he absolutely has the right....and is making hundreds of thousands of dollars to do so
amerikkka is a great country
If Riley Cooper had his guns stolen, they'd be used in a school shooting. Jackson's guns will probably show up in a pawn shop.
Quote from: General_Failure on January 12, 2014, 12:59:47 AM
If Riley Cooper had his guns stolen, they'd be used in a school shooting. Jackson's guns will probably show up in a pawn shop.
is this funny or racist or what?
Probably racist.
Quote from: MDS on January 12, 2014, 01:01:30 AM
Quote from: General_Failure on January 12, 2014, 12:59:47 AM
If Riley Cooper had his guns stolen, they'd be used in a school shooting. Jackson's guns will probably show up in a pawn shop.
is this funny or racist or what?
gf is a lot of things but racist isnt one of them
aussies be liberal yo
i dont mean racist likes hes racist...racist like hes trying to be funny
Quote from: MDS on January 12, 2014, 01:05:12 AM
i dont mean racist likes hes racist...racist like hes trying to be funny
i dont follow
but im pretty sure gf is always trying to be funny
Quote from: ice grillin you on January 12, 2014, 01:04:43 AM
Quote from: MDS on January 12, 2014, 01:01:30 AM
Quote from: General_Failure on January 12, 2014, 12:59:47 AM
If Riley Cooper had his guns stolen, they'd be used in a school shooting. Jackson's guns will probably show up in a pawn shop.
is this funny or racist or what?
gf is a lot of things but racist isnt one of them
aussies be liberal yo
Fun fact: Australians are the most racist people in the world by a landslide, and one of the things I don't miss about it.
was just telling my girl the other day now that i fly im headed to alaska this year to throw paint on the indigenous people wearing fur
IN?
I don't think there's any left. I think they were all either captured by the Japanese or moved to internment camps during WWII.
oh they are there....they may not go to school or work and they drink a lot of night train but they are there
Quote from: General_Failure on January 12, 2014, 01:09:11 AMFun fact: Australians are the most racist people in the world by a landslide, and one of the things I don't miss about it.
The thing about Australian racism which I found surprising when I was over there was how much of it was directed at the Lebanese and not the Aborigines. I guess most the Aborigines are out in the desert so they need another target for day-to-day racism.
For the record, I'm going with China as the most racist country on the planet, at least that I've experienced. Ask them about Koreans and Japanese, and all the racist things they say about blacks and whites being animals and barbarians and devils will seem quite mild in comparison. Since Australia will eventually be mostly Chinese, I expect Australian racism to increase.
Everyone in Asian hates the Japanese. They don't have a history of being good neighbors.
Their day to day racism is directed as Muslims of any kind and Indonesian refugees.
mostly anyone that isnt white
They're 20 million white people surrounded by literally billions of brown and yellow people, some who still remember when they were trying to blow each other up. They've got some issues to work on.
white people are awesome
Quote from: QB Eagles on January 12, 2014, 01:41:10 AM
Quote from: General_Failure on January 12, 2014, 01:09:11 AMFun fact: Australians are the most racist people in the world by a landslide, and one of the things I don't miss about it.
The thing about Australian racism which I found surprising when I was over there was how much of it was directed at the Lebanese and not the Aborigines. I guess most the Aborigines are out in the desert so they need another target for day-to-day racism.
For the record, I'm going with China as the most racist country on the planet, at least that I've experienced. Ask them about Koreans and Japanese, and all the racist things they say about blacks and whites being animals and barbarians and devils will seem quite mild in comparison. Since Australia will eventually be mostly Chinese, I expect Australian racism to increase.
I dated an Aussie from Queensland and she HATED the Aborigines...liberal in literally every other aspect, but uncomfortable to hear her talk about them.
Quote from: MDS on January 12, 2014, 02:31:20 AM
white people are awesome
colonize like ants at a picnic
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=slk3UKHGL5A
How dare you interrupt AusPol talk with the greatest thing that ever happened.
tom coughlin looked like he got all his jewelry took
Quote from: General_Failure on January 12, 2014, 02:42:51 AM
How dare you interrupt AusPol talk with the greatest thing that ever happened.
:-D
I don't care what he does with his money, but failing to secure his firearms is borderline sociopathic. Buy a safe, you wannabe thug rapper, and put your farging guns in it. Stupid doesn't begin to describe this man. On the field, I love the guy. Off the field, he's a menace. Rich and rock stupid is bad for the community.
According to the news this morning the money and weapon were in a safe that was broken into. The other safe containing the jewelry was taken from his residence.
Oh?
Well, I'm the rock stupid one then.
There were no signs of forced entry and the alarm system was on meaning this was someone he knows. His mom either lives with him or checks on his place when he's out if town...she noticed his room was ransacked.
Yeah so, now that I've actually read the stories....I'm back to: jaccpot is as dumb as a rock.
If you have to live like this, get a real safe and put your shtein in it. The entourage ain't to be trusted.
It's AI all over again, the signs are there. Now we just need some baby momma issues to make it complete.
I don't think he's anywhere near AI, both talent wise or distraction.
As for dude having a few hundred K worth of cash and jewelry in his crib - athletes be stupid, b.
Of course he doesn't "need" it. But everyone has a house full of shtein they don't need. His shtein just happens to be worth more than all of ours combined. Multi-millionaires having $250k in cash around the house is like me having a change can with $100 in it. In fact, I bet Desean has a bucket that he puts hundred dollar bills in when he finds them under his couch and that's what got stolen.
Could the bucket be described as bejeweled or diamond encrusted?
i'm late to this party, but he's supposed to keep his guns somewhere other than....his house?
The assumption was that he kept his gold plated guns on the coffee table next to the stacks of hundreds, not in a gun safe like a responsible non-caricature. You can see how we'd make that mistake.
I don't care about the guns...or jewelry.
But $250k in cash? Did you guys know your local banks carry maybe up to $120k in cash at one time? (Unless the volume of the branch is higher...but back in mid-90's when I was working at a bank...it was about $120k limit).
Grocery stores carry more money...but I wouldn't say they carry Jacko money.
Sarge...$250k for a Billionaire is like $100 to us...but to a multi-millionaire...it's still a significant piece of the financial pie. That's still crazy. $250k in cash. At home. Mafia? Get a safe deposit box.
Hold on a minute... I need to run to the bank real quick...
how you gonna make it rain with all your money in the bank
In ten years I could see him making it rain with IOU's
He'll be at Eagles home games in 10 years... Kissin the logo...sitting on the sidelines in camouflage and sunglasses on...putting his hand up to his ear
Is that because they'll have brought out the camo merchandise after just putting away the pink merchandise?
Quote from: SD on January 12, 2014, 05:10:38 PM
He'll be at Eagles home games in 10 years... Kissin the logo...sitting on the sidelines in camouflage and sunglasses on...putting his hand up to his ear
no way....he hates the east coast.....he is jetty to los angeles the minute hes done...plus the eagle fanbase is racist at its core so they would never love someone like pimp like the sixer fanbase worships allen
http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/10284137/desean-jackson-philadelphia-eagles-offers-50k-reward-home-burglary
It was Lil Terrio!
Quote from: ice grillin you on January 12, 2014, 05:31:19 PM
Quote from: SD on January 12, 2014, 05:10:38 PM
He'll be at Eagles home games in 10 years... Kissin the logo...sitting on the sidelines in camouflage and sunglasses on...putting his hand up to his ear
no way....he hates the east coast.....he is jetty to los angeles the minute hes done...plus the eagle fanbase is racist at its core so they would never love someone like pimp like the sixer fanbase worships allen
LOL, What? Please elaborate.
You really don't have to go to too many games to pick up on the fact that there's a lot of zesty people in the stands who like to let you know which of those dumb stillupfronts they can't stand.
Pretty much. They aren't exactly "get back on the plantation" racist, but more like "can you stop acting black because it makes me uncomfortable?" racist.
Or the ever popular "I hate everyone equally" guy who has no problem calling you a wetback chink jew dot-head.
Wtf? No hate for Italians? Farging racist.
So because there are racist fans in the stands, eagles fans at their core are racist? That's like saying because some black men don't support their kids, black men at their core are bad parents. Seems to me that this whole racism argument is an insanely one sided street.
Quote from: Sgt PSN on January 13, 2014, 04:05:04 PM
Wtf? No hate for Italians? Farging racist.
That guy's usually a WOP.
Quote from: Chameleon on January 13, 2014, 04:06:46 PM
So because there are racist fans in the stands, eagles fans at their core are racist? That's like saying because some black men don't support their kids, black men at their core are bad parents. Seems to me that this whole racism argument is an insanely one sided street.
Probably seems that way because you're so racist
I just said hello to a young black man walking on my block because farg him.
:-D
Lol
Jay Glazer's house was robbed too.
Comments?
Isn't he rich enough to have some sort of security? Moron.
That thug lifestyle was going to catch up to him sooner or later.
He had his money in the bank. And definitely not 250k in hand at the house.
He's never had $250k in his life.
Exactly.
how many safes did they carry out of Glazer's house? How many guns did he lose track of?
One portable safe full of old Blackberry phones, one with a mix of android and iphones, and $250 worth of hentai dvds.
FOX News Publishes Story About DeSean Jackson, Uses Picture of Brad Smith (http://www.crossingbroad.com/2014/01/fox-news-publishes-story-about-desean-jackson-uses-picture-of-brad-smith.html)
Obligatory "they all look the same" comment
But sometimes you can tell differences in how dark their skin is. Riley has learned how to use this combined with jersey numbers to identify players and could do an inservice for Fox.
http://www.philly.com/philly/blogs/sports/eagles/Eagles-fans-stay-or-go-analysis-in-MS-Paint-form.html
the percentage of people who prefer Cooper over Pimp?
Ummmmmm...farging idiots
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on January 14, 2014, 08:25:35 PM
the percentage of people who prefer Cooper over Pimp?
Ummmmmm...farging idiots
Here's a graphical interpretation of who Eagle fans think the team should keep:
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Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on January 14, 2014, 08:25:35 PM
http://www.philly.com/philly/blogs/sports/eagles/Eagles-fans-stay-or-go-analysis-in-MS-Paint-form.html
the percentage of people who prefer Cooper over Pimp?
Ummmmmm...farging idiots
LOL
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Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on January 14, 2014, 08:25:35 PM
http://www.philly.com/philly/blogs/sports/eagles/Eagles-fans-stay-or-go-analysis-in-MS-Paint-form.html
the percentage of people who prefer Cooper over Pimp?
Ummmmmm...farging idiots
93% to 57%
lol
i dont think eagle fans can ever again make fun of any other fanbase
clearly being a stillupfront is worse than saying stillupfront
It could be the fans identify more with a guy like Cooper than they do Pimp.
Or it could be everyone is racist except you two.
Quote from: Rome on January 16, 2014, 08:21:52 AM
It could be the fans identify more with a guy like Cooper than they do Pimp.
a racist rich kid from the south with hair down his back can be easily identified with by philadelphia eagle fans?
or do you mean they just hate loud young rich black kids?
A young white kid. How many of them have you heard the word stillupfront come out of their sewers?
More to the point... How many times has Cooper heard his black teammates drop N bombs?
100? 1,000 or more?
It's laughable.
Quote from: Rome on January 16, 2014, 08:47:40 AM
A young white kid. How many of them have you heard the word stillupfront come out of their sewers?
in a hateful threatening and derogatory way directed at a black person?
i can count those on one hand probably and not for a long long time
and when i did i can guarantee i didnt relate to them
i have heard the n word dropped hundreds of times in my years at eagle games...but those were mostly cases of calling the players the word.....or even another fan but more under their breath...certainly not where it could be heard by the person....altho this year there were multiple LOUD sand stillupfronts dropped at that indian kid dallas fan....to which i told the perpatrators to watch their mouths
but your point is correct much of the eagle fanbase is made up of racist neanderthals who would support riley cooper over PIMP even if kkkooper was a convicted murderer
Quote from: Rome on January 16, 2014, 08:49:36 AM
More to the point... How many times has Cooper heard his black teammates drop N bombs?
100? 1,000 or more?
It's laughable.
this excuse is laughable yes....i have heard my black friends and black people in general say the word as many or more times than riley cooper has heard it and i can say i have never ever directed the word at someone in my life...in a friendly or unfriendly fashion....unfortunately this is an all too common feeling amongst eagle fans and it at time makes me embarrassed to be a part of the fanbase
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And that's the bottom line..
I haven't read this entire thread word for word, so I might be late on this.
Why would anyone have to keep 250 k at his house? I can understand having a mega safe for guns and jewelry, but why does anyone need that much cash on hand?
I can think of 250k reasons, but here are a few...whether you like them or not is on you.
None of your business.
It's useful for impressing the entourage
Strippers don't take debit.
Why not??
Cash in a safe in my home is cash the banks/government can't get/prevent me from getting.
I don't have time/want to be bothered going to the bank for $400 per ATM transaction, so I keep a pile at home to avoid errands.
yeah keeping large amounts of cash at home isnt unusual for someone with that much money
letting the wrong people know that you have that kind of cash at home as well as not properly securing it seem to be his mistakes in this whole thing
he was living in a townhouse that costs less than mine in a non descript completely unsecured area of south phil....if you are keeping that kind of shtein in your residence farging get a condo in a secured high rise in center city....or a house in a gated community in south jerz
But then he wouldn't be keepin it real
Quote from: ice grillin you on January 17, 2014, 07:57:02 AM...if you are keeping that kind of shtein in your residence farging get a condo in a secured high rise in center city....or a house in a gated community in south jerz
or just get a real safe
Or booby trap your pad
Added to Pro Bowl.
Quote from: shorebird on January 17, 2014, 06:49:36 AM
I haven't read this entire thread word for word, so I might be late on this.
Why would anyone have to keep 250 k at his house? I can understand having a mega safe for guns and jewelry, but why does anyone need that much cash on hand?
this is why old white people will never like him
instead of saying "that sucks" that he got cash stolen, its his fault for having that much cash on hand. like he was asking for it. just like the girl in the short skirt was asking to get raped.
why ain't in your repertoire. dont concern yourself with other peoples financial decisions. no one cares about where your medicare checks go.
lol
This might be the 1st time mds has legitimately checked someone.
weird, in 37yrs of going i have never, ever heard the n bomb uttered at an eagles game.
We wonder why he had 250K in his house, mostly because we aren't in a position to have that much. Who knows why a rich guy would have that much money? Maybe he needed some money to burn. Unfortunately he was the victim of a crime, and hopefully the criminal is caught.
Quote from: Diomedes on January 17, 2014, 02:19:45 PM
Added to Pro Bowl.
Poor bastich, first he gets ripped off and now he's subjected to that laughable fargfest.
True but he's gonna get all up in a spam burger's ass, though.
His pro bowl check will help replenish the pile of cash that got took.
Hopefully he doesn't cash that check, and leave the cash in the house while he's in Hawaii.
I'm one of the people who questions why he has so much cash on hand and why at home? But a buddy pointed out it's possible that maybe he withdraws $5k-$10k every time he makes a deposit and takes it home. I think we all do that.
Just...$250k...c'mon...that's a lot of cash to have at the house. I don't care how rich you are.
Of course it is, but this is America. The more money you have, the more freedom you have to do whatever you want with it.
Quote from: Rome on January 17, 2014, 04:49:19 PM
True but he's gonna get all up in a spam burger's ass, though.
I know just the place!
Quote from: MDS on January 17, 2014, 02:29:19 PM
Quote from: shorebird on January 17, 2014, 06:49:36 AM
I haven't read this entire thread word for word, so I might be late on this.
Why would anyone have to keep 250 k at his house? I can understand having a mega safe for guns and jewelry, but why does anyone need that much cash on hand?
this is why old white people will never like him
I love the guy, have never said anything other than, but you and your racist bullshtein come to the front again. Because someone asked a simple question
instead of saying "that sucks" that he got cash stolen, its his fault for having that much cash on hand. like he was asking for it. just like the girl in the short skirt was asking to get raped.
why ain't in your repertoire. dont concern yourself with other peoples financial decisions. no one cares about where your medicare checks go.
I love the guy, have never said anything other than, but because I asked a simple question, someone who you know to be older than you and white, your sick racist bullshtein comes to the front again. Comparing me asking a question to thinking I'd say some girl deserved to get raped for wearing a short skirt. And yeah, if he's going to leave that much cash in his house unattended and then tweet about going to Florida, he might get robbed. Did he deserve it? I don't really care too much one way or the other. You on the other hand get your dildo all sideways about a question asked about a black mans money when if it was some old twenty year term republican congressman in the same situation, you'd undoubtedly say he's a stupid bastich who deserves anything he gets and should have been home when the thieves were robbing the house so he could have been ass raped while his wife was getting her throat cut in front of him right before they blew his brains out.
And yeah, if the shteins gonna' be posted about all over the farging internet, I'm going to ask. You call leaving 250k at home while he's at Florida a "financial decision", like he's investing it in stocks. Ha! The only bigger idiot here is you for trying to defend it with your tired ass argument, throwing the race card, again. At least Dio's response, as paranoid as some of it was, made some sense. Your punk ass needs some new material.
Quote from: Sgt PSN on January 17, 2014, 02:42:08 PM
This might be the 1st time mds has legitimately checked someone.
Checked for what? Oh wait, I'd rather not have you post ten paragraphs of drivel because of me. Forget I posted that.
I keeps it brief, yo.
Point is....why the farg does anyone care how much cash a guy has in his house? If I had PIMP money, I'd probably keep a bowl full of benjamins on my kitchen table like it's a farging candy dish. Maybe I'd have some wayward bills stitched together to make curtains for my living room. Why would I do that? Because I could.
Also, lol @ this....
Quote from: shorebird on January 17, 2014, 08:52:14 PMI'd rather not have you post ten paragraphs of drivel because of me.
Being posted immediately after this...
Quote from: shorebird on January 17, 2014, 08:48:50 PM
Quote from: MDS on January 17, 2014, 02:29:19 PM
Quote from: shorebird on January 17, 2014, 06:49:36 AM
I haven't read this entire thread word for word, so I might be late on this.
Why would anyone have to keep 250 k at his house? I can understand having a mega safe for guns and jewelry, but why does anyone need that much cash on hand?
this is why old white people will never like him
I love the guy, have never said anything other than, but you and your racist bullshtein come to the front again. Because someone asked a simple question
instead of saying "that sucks" that he got cash stolen, its his fault for having that much cash on hand. like he was asking for it. just like the girl in the short skirt was asking to get raped.
why ain't in your repertoire. dont concern yourself with other peoples financial decisions. no one cares about where your medicare checks go.
I love the guy, have never said anything other than, but because I asked a simple question, someone who you know to be older than you and white, your sick racist bullshtein comes to the front again. Comparing me asking a question to thinking I'd say some girl deserved to get raped for wearing a short skirt. And yeah, if he's going to leave that much cash in his house unattended and then tweet about going to Florida, he might get robbed. Did he deserve it? I don't really care too much one way or the other. You on the other hand get your dildo all sideways about a question asked about a black mans money when if it was some old twenty year term republican congressman in the same situation, you'd undoubtedly say he's a stupid bastich who deserves anything he gets and should have been home when the thieves were robbing the house so he could have been ass raped while his wife was getting her throat cut in front of him right before they blew his brains out.
And yeah, if the shteins gonna' be posted about all over the farging internet, I'm going to ask. You call leaving 250k at home while he's at Florida a "financial decision", like he's investing it in stocks. Ha! The only bigger idiot here is you for trying to defend it with your tired ass argument, throwing the race card, again. At least Dio's response, as paranoid as some of it was, made some sense. Your punk ass needs some new material.
Quote from: Sgt PSN on January 17, 2014, 11:41:12 PM
I keeps it brief, yo.
Point is....why the farg does anyone care how much cash a guy has in his house? If I had PIMP money, I'd probably keep a bowl full of benjamins on my kitchen table like it's a farging candy dish. Maybe I'd have some wayward bills stitched together to make curtains for my living room. Why would I do that? Because I could.
I'd laminate some and use it as siding on my house
Maybe he just likes to have a fresh one for each line of coke. You guys are thinking way too hard about this.
Quote from: shorebird on January 17, 2014, 08:48:50 PMI love the guy, have never said anything other than, but because I asked a simple question, someone who you know to be older than you and white, your sick racist bullshtein comes to the front again. Comparing me asking a question to thinking I'd say some girl deserved to get raped for wearing a short skirt. And yeah, if he's going to leave that much cash in his house unattended and then tweet about going to Florida, he might get robbed. Did he deserve it? I don't really care too much one way or the other. You on the other hand get your dildo all sideways about a question asked about a black mans money when if it was some old twenty year term republican congressman in the same situation, you'd undoubtedly say he's a stupid bastich who deserves anything he gets and should have been home when the thieves were robbing the house so he could have been ass raped while his wife was getting her throat cut in front of him right before they blew his brains out.
And yeah, if the shteins gonna' be posted about all over the farging internet, I'm going to ask. You call leaving 250k at home while he's at Florida a "financial decision", like he's investing it in stocks. Ha! The only bigger idiot here is you for trying to defend it with your tired ass argument, throwing the race card, again. At least Dio's response, as paranoid as some of it was, made some sense. Your punk ass needs some new material.
hes like the incoherent perennially drunk uncle i never had...please dont change, big dude. please dont ever farging change.
The money he had in the safe was undoubtedly worth more than the house it was in. Not only was it excessive; it was monumentally stupid of him to keep that kind of dough there. Funny thing is it was less than a week's pay for the guy.
I love him, personally, because he's a great athlete. As a human, he's a clueless moron just like 99.99999% of his athletic brethren.
Quote from: MDS on January 18, 2014, 03:29:52 AM
hes like the incoherent perennially drunk uncle i never had...please dont change, big dude. please dont ever farging change.
Yeah I know, the truth hurts. Well...maybe not you 'cause you don't give a farg, but most it does.
Quote from: Sgt PSN on January 17, 2014, 11:41:12 PM
I keeps it brief, yo.
Point is....why the farg does anyone care how much cash a guy has in his house? If I had PIMP money, I'd probably keep a bowl full of benjamins on my kitchen table like it's a farging candy dish. Maybe I'd have some wayward bills stitched together to make curtains for my living room. Why would I do that? Because I could.
I don't care how much money he keeps at his house, I was just wondering why anyone would need that much cash laying around. I guess because I'll never know what it's like to have that much money at all, much less anywere in my house.
It just gets me that because I'm older than most here, white, and a pub, every time I have anything at all to say about a black person the cry of racism is shouted from the soapboxes by Mutt and Jeff. It's like talking stones to a couple china dolls.
China dolls?
You farging ricist!
i didn't hear it but a few people told me that during his Saturday morning show Howard said he thinks the eagles will try to trade jackson and keep both kkkooper and maclin and then draft a wr. that would be awful
That's the dumbest idea I've ever seen.
Not if it gets them into the top 3 to draft Teddy B![/havas]
Quote from: SunMo on January 20, 2014, 11:45:28 AM
i didn't hear it but a few people told me that during his Saturday morning show Howard said he thinks the eagles will try to trade jackson and keep both kkkooper and maclin and then draft a wr. that would be awful
aka "Chief" trying to stir things up to stay in the relevant talk show cycle
who is left in the know from andy's regime that would feed howard this...nobody
the king just made it up.
You think they'd do that? Just make things up to fill time?
Not that I beleve any of this, but what would his trade value be?
Quote from: Chameleon on January 20, 2014, 03:36:10 PM
Not that I beleve any of this, but what would his trade value be?
I'm not against trading Desean if someone offers a top 15 pick, other than that no thank you. His trade value is probably a late first early 2nd...but that's just a guess.
Top 15 pick means nothing.
This franchise goes back into the Pinkston-Thrash dark ages if he's traded.
Seattle somehow gets it done with the likes of Tate, Baldwin, and whomever else they have...but that's the exception and this team doesn't win as many games without him on the field.
If he goes, I go.
Trading Pimp would be disastrous. I don't/can't believe they'd ever do that.
Trade him straight up for Kapernick just to see IGY's reaction.
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lol at going into next year with a smashed a knee a one year wonder and a rookie as your wr's....chipper would love that
Pimp is one of those players who has more value to his current team than he does to the rest of the league. Practically every team would love to have him, but I doubt anyone would go any higher than a 2nd rounder for him. So unless the Eagles are able to flat out rape a team in a trade, just restructure his contract and move forward.
you can get lucky and find a team on the cusp of a superbowl and willing to reach like the seahawks did with percy harvin but yeah in general his value is def not in the first round
Mike Wallace and Dion Jordan for Pimp and a 2nd rounder
Keep the 2nd rounder, send Brandon Graham.
Quote from: Sgt PSN on January 21, 2014, 11:40:42 AM
Pimp is one of those players who has more value to his current team than he does to the rest of the league. Practically every team would love to have him, but I doubt anyone would go any higher than a 2nd rounder for him. So unless the Eagles are able to flat out rape a team in a trade, just restructure his contract and move forward.
I was going to post something along those lines. He and Lesean have a take it to the house big play ability that is synergistic in Chips offense and wouldn't work as well with most other teams. But that said though I don't get why people think they should re-do his contract, I don't see any real advantages either way (i.e. either converting remaining guaranteed money into this coming year or converting salary into future prorated guaranteed money).
Agree they wouldn't get more than a second at most for him because teams generally can't give up that much while at the same time taking on $11 million/year in salary. The rape exception could be a coach/gm on the hot seat who needs to win now to keep a job, so if they thought DeSean was that piece to win now they might bite and let the future take care of itself.
Quote from: Seabiscuit36 on January 21, 2014, 03:56:33 PM
Mike Wallace and Dion Jordan for Pimp and a 2nd rounder
No way
Quote from: Seabiscuit36 on January 21, 2014, 03:56:33 PM
Mike Wallace and Dion Jordan for Pimp and a 2nd rounder
this would be an interesting deal in our fantasy league next year
Quote from: Eagaholic on January 21, 2014, 07:32:19 PM
Quote from: Sgt PSN on January 21, 2014, 11:40:42 AM
Pimp is one of those players who has more value to his current team than he does to the rest of the league. Practically every team would love to have him, but I doubt anyone would go any higher than a 2nd rounder for him. So unless the Eagles are able to flat out rape a team in a trade, just restructure his contract and move forward.
I was going to post something along those lines. He and Lesean have a take it to the house big play ability that is synergistic in Chips offense and wouldn't work as well with most other teams. But that said though I don't get why people think they should re-do his contract, I don't see any real advantages either way (i.e. either converting remaining guaranteed money into this coming year or converting salary into future prorated guaranteed money).
Agree they wouldn't get more than a second at most for him because teams generally can't give up that much while at the same time taking on $11 million/year in salary. The rape exception could be a coach/gm on the hot seat who needs to win now to keep a job, so if they thought DeSean was that piece to win now they might bite and let the future take care of itself.
No way you can put DeSean and LeSean in the same category. Shady is a top 3 RB no matter what offense you put him in.
Andy Reid's offense.
1600 yards and 20 TD's. Boom.
Quote from: Munson on January 22, 2014, 06:33:46 PM
Quote from: Eagaholic on January 21, 2014, 07:32:19 PM
Quote from: Sgt PSN on January 21, 2014, 11:40:42 AM
Pimp is one of those players who has more value to his current team than he does to the rest of the league. Practically every team would love to have him, but I doubt anyone would go any higher than a 2nd rounder for him. So unless the Eagles are able to flat out rape a team in a trade, just restructure his contract and move forward.
I was going to post something along those lines. He and Lesean have a take it to the house big play ability that is synergistic in Chips offense and wouldn't work as well with most other teams. But that said though I don't get why people think they should re-do his contract, I don't see any real advantages either way (i.e. either converting remaining guaranteed money into this coming year or converting salary into future prorated guaranteed money).
Agree they wouldn't get more than a second at most for him because teams generally can't give up that much while at the same time taking on $11 million/year in salary. The rape exception could be a coach/gm on the hot seat who needs to win now to keep a job, so if they thought DeSean was that piece to win now they might bite and let the future take care of itself.
No way you can put DeSean and LeSean in the same category. Shady is a top 3 RB no matter what offense you put him in.
I wasn't saying they are equally good at their positions, just that they they both have legit big play ability which lets them work synergistically in a way DeSean wouldn't be able to in other offenses.
My bad, I thought you were saying that Shady also wouldn't work as well with most other teams. He's the type of RB that will work on any team if said team gives him the ball.
until pimp loses a step hed be equally dangerous in every offense in the nfl....shady on the other hand wouldnt really work in a pro set.....hed still be good dont get me wrong but its not ideal for him...shady is the better player no doubt but hes also the more easily replaceable and probably the less important player
theres at least five other running backs in the league right now that would do in this offense what shady does...and while there are many better wide receivers in the league thatn pimp there may not be anyone who can run like him....his speed doesnt grow on trees like pass catching rb's do
shtein the running back shady replaced on the eagles would probably be better in chips offense than shady is....so if the eagles can have two guys like that in less than five years it cant be that difficult to find someone
I wonder if DeSean is asking for more money because Beiber is tapping his model ho-piece now
I hear DeSean is now banging a Hawaiian porn star.
Don Ho?
score
Jackson actually ripped the ball from the DB on the touchdown. Never saw him do that before.
Pimp loves his mama...
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I want that jersey. farging dope!
I too want a knockoff Seahawks jersey.
http://www.tmz.com/2014/01/26/desean-jackson-porn-star-michelle-maylene/
If anyone has Skinemax, she was the flat-chested bitch on Co-Ed Confidential
W.
T.
F.
holy shtein the thought of easy in his tighty whiteys and JW gacy clown mask down in his jerk cave at 3am watching something called co ed confidential is pretty much as frightening as it gets
Maybe that was the name the character had in the credits.
Quote from: ice grillin you on January 29, 2014, 03:22:35 PM
W.
T.
F.
holy shtein the thought of easy in his tighty whiteys and JW gacy clown mask down in his jerk cave at 3am watching something called co ed confidential is pretty much as frightening as it gets
holy shtein the JW GAcy part has me dying
Quote from: ice grillin you on January 29, 2014, 03:22:35 PM
W.
T.
F.
holy shtein the thought of easy in his tighty whiteys and JW gacy clown mask down in his jerk cave at 3am watching something called co ed confidential is pretty much as frightening as it gets
That's quite an active imagination. Ed is a fount of information. And hopefully nothing else.
Quote from: ice grillin you on January 29, 2014, 03:22:35 PM
the thought of easy in his tighty whiteys and JW gacy clown mask down in his jerk cave at 3am watching something called co ed confidential is pretty much as frightening as it gets
so think of pimp's bony ass in his boxers then. Obviously he's seen the show too
I think igy is fapping to that now
Aren't we all?
im not ashamed to admit ive jerked it more than once to pimp
pimp is co-hosting "The View" this morning, and one of the guests will be the bullied kid he met on the show 3 years ago
im a thug but i swear for three days i cried
Extremebirds?
http://the700level.com/?p=1047023
That 'A' just made me hate him a little.
He's going to feel so dumb when he finally learns how jackpot is spelled.
Quote from: hbionic on February 14, 2014, 04:02:20 PM
That 'A' just made me hate him a little.
join the masses
Seeing a lot of speculation and articles about pimp getting traded ever since Maclin signed that deal. I'd only consider it if he's going to Oakland for the #5 pick and WE end up with Sammy Watkins
Yeah, just saw this on Roto
QuotePhilly.com's Jimmy Kempski reports there is an "opinion among some in the Eagles' organization" that DeSean Jackson's personality is "not a great fit" with the team's locker room culture, and the Eagles "could be open to trading him."
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He's a bad (wannabe) rapper, bad a hiding things, and is a little flamboyant. Big farging deal. If the Eagles trade him I might just boycott the birds for a while.
Take THAT Jeff Lurie
Settle down amigo.
It would be a mistake and a half to move Jackson.
Next subject please.
caking off (http://www.philaflava.com/forum/images/smilies/dcracistemo0mp.gif) and trading pimp would be an awesome offseason
would you do it for a scenario like Ed said, trade DeSean for a high pick to get Watkins? (Sammy, not Danny)
ie would you rather have DeSean and the #22 or Sammy Watkins and use the extra cap money to get a top defensive FA like TJ Ward?
id rather have sammy watkins but theres no chance pimp has that kind of value
also the eagles don't need money to sign tj ward or anyone else
The value would be him plus the #22, and I somewhat agree it wouldn't fly - although if it's Oakland it wouldn't surprise me. It's actually not a bad deal for them since they have 70 trillion in cap space. But I don't agree that the Eagles have the $ to sign anyone- they can afford maybe one big signing but that would be it.
According to the Eagles cap page they currently have $21,426,365 in cap space and that's after the Cooper, Kelce, Maclin & Peters signings. That's not a huge amount but it's enough to get at least 2 or 3 prime time free agents.
if they can pull off a deal that brings back at least equal value i would trade anyone....i just don't think pimp would bring back commodities that would equal what his value is to the eagles
Quote from: Rome on March 02, 2014, 09:10:44 PM
According to the Eagles cap page they currently have $21,426,365 in cap space and that's after the Cooper, Kelce, Maclin & Peters signings. That's not a huge amount but it's enough to get at least 2 or 3 prime time free agents.
i thought it was closer to 17....but either way yeah they have enough money to basically do whatever they want this offseason
I don't think that $21M is enough to get more than maybe 1 top FA for a couple of reasons. The first is with the cap increase about half the teams in the league have more cap room now than the Eagles which means it takes a lot more than in past years to get one of these guys.
The other reason is the penalty for having a great draft class in '12. Over they next couple of years they will have to pay off Foles, Boykin, Kendricks, Cox as well as get some lesser players so they'll need to carry over $15 - 20M like they did this year.
http://www.eaglescap.com/
the cap is expected to rise to $150M by 2016. money won't be an issue then any more than it's an issue now. howie has to have the balls to pull the trigger after the last free agent clusterfarg. i honestly don't think it's the way to go, but if you're going to go for it, make damn sure you get the best player(s) available.
True the cap will be going up a lot (thanks is good part to Thursday night football). The Eagles are OK but there are many teams in much better shape. 3 teams have around $55 - 65+ million in cap room and only 2 teams are over the cap, which is a huge difference in the market from what we've seen in the past. So its about bidding against other teams for top players, and several teams are in a much better position. Money isn't a big issue for keeping the team they want together going forward but I don't think they have the leverage compared with other teams to get top FAs like they have in the past.
The way I see it players want to make as much dough as possible. However, winning factors in too. Philly is a big market, they have a hot coach, they were a playoff team last year, and they have enough cap space to be able to satisfy almost any player.
Sure, Oakland has a ton of space and so do a few other teams, but why would anyone in their right mind sign with them even if they could break the bank?
Just look at what Jairus Byrd turned down from the Bills. Does he really think he's going to get that much more from other teams or is it he's had enough of losing in a zesty town with a zesty team?
Quote from: Rome on March 02, 2014, 10:14:24 PM
The way I see it players want to make as much dough as possible. However, winning factors in too. Philly is a big market, they have a hot coach, they were a playoff team last year, and they have enough cap space to be able to satisfy almost any player.
Sure, Oakland has a ton of space and so do a few other teams, but why would anyone in their right mind sign with them even if they could break the bank?
Just look at what Jairus Byrd turned down from the Bills. Does he really think he's going to get that much more from other teams or is it he's had enough of losing in a zesty town with a zesty team?
I think some players will just follow the money, especially if it's really big bucks, and others will take into account the organization. But the top tier players who can write their own ticket, and if they come from a losing team or shtein city, will be more likely to choose a contender. I gotta believe what Chip has done in just one year would be a big plus to those FAs. Looking back on that steaming pile of shtein they began the year with it is pretty impressive how they came together. I wasn't a believer in Billy Davis in the least but I have to admit he's winning me over.
twice today fftoolbox on twitter reported that they had a source that Desean Jackson was on his way out and could be traded by the end of the day. has to be bullshtein right?
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BREAKING: Toolbox source says PHI WR DeSean Jackson OUT in Philly. More details to follow... #NFL @EaglesInsider
- FFToolbox.com (@fftoolbox) March 10, 2014
We first reported this on Twitter, but waited for more time for any other details to be released. At this time, we do not know the destination, although our latest reports as of 3:10pm EST say "it's happening", so we're all hands on deck as we wait for more specific details but here's what we've heard so far...
A source close to FFToolbox is saying that DeSean Jackson is done in Philly. From all indications Jackson is on his way out and now we wait for this news to become official.
It's not unusual for new head coaches to clean house to a degree and Chip Kelly simply may not see Jackson as his type of player. There is also speculation that Kelly believes Jackson is a "me first" receiver and less of a team player.
Possibly the biggest reason for a trade is the 9.8 million this year due Jackson, with a total cap number of 12.75 million in 2014. A recent report from SI.com believes Jackson's former coach Andy Reid in KC may be a possible suitor for Jackson. And According to Jimmy Kempski of Philly.com San Francisco, who has six picks in the first four rounds of this year's draft, would make a good trading partner. New England, Oakland and a handful of other teams would make interesting destinations for Jackson, who will likely be traded for draft considerations.
Jackson had a great year in Philly with 82 receptions for 1332 yards and nine touchdowns. His value next year will likely be a low WR 1, depending, of course, on who is throwing him the ball.
http://www.fftoolbox.com/football/article.cfm?article_id=1753
I don't know about you, but I definitely trust this Twitter account I hadn't heard of before now.
This doesn't add up. If the Eagles were shopping DeSean there would be more reliable sources. I can't see cutting him. Mr. Jackson is talented, but Mr. Foles doesn't like his attitude, or the fact that he cannot spell Jackpot. If this is true, Bye, Bye, cancer, hello someone else less likely to act like an icehole because of the example we may make out of notsopimp.
He's not even a selfish player, so I don't know where that comes from. He blocks, he tackles on turnovers, he plays special teams. Did someone need a bone marrow transplant and he said no?
Quote from: General_Failure on March 10, 2014, 04:01:01 PM
He's not even a selfish player, so I don't know where that comes from. He blocks, he tackles on turnovers, he plays special teams. Did someone need a bone marrow transplant and he said no?
Define selfish player. Then think about how taxing it would be to be surrounded by that kind of stupid throughout a fooball season. +His market value is as high as it will ever be. Last year was his peak. Imagine how many seasons AI would have had if he played football, you are looking at a similar asset. Buy low, sell high, GOODBYE!
Quote from: General_Failure on March 10, 2014, 04:01:01 PM
He's not even a selfish player, so I don't know where that comes from. He blocks, he tackles on turnovers, he plays special teams. Did someone need a bone marrow transplant and he said no?
his anti bullying efforts are tremendous
but he raps and wears shiny jewlery so hes an uppity stillupfront to a lot of people
I'm fine with moving Jackson, like anyone else, depending on the value he returns. I just don't see a way they're going to get enough to justify moving him especially as it creates an unneeded hole on the roster.
I'm going to hang myself for continue to open this link.
Quote from: Eagles_Legendz on March 10, 2014, 04:16:38 PM
I'm fine with moving Jackson, like anyone else, depending on the value he returns. I just don't see a way they're going to get enough to justify moving him especially as it creates an unneeded hole on the roster.
ive been saying this since the rumors started....if they can fall into a percy harvin type deal then by all means pull the trigger....but for the most part its very hard to get equal value for good veteran nfl players
Quote from: ice grillin you on March 10, 2014, 04:11:37 PM
Quote from: General_Failure on March 10, 2014, 04:01:01 PM
He's not even a selfish player, so I don't know where that comes from. He blocks, he tackles on turnovers, he plays special teams. Did someone need a bone marrow transplant and he said no?
his anti bullying efforts are tremendous
but he raps and wears shiny jewlery so hes an uppity stillupfront to a lot of people
Or he gets paid a ton of money and his asking for more pissed them off.
I don't agree with that, just saying I wouldn't put it past this team's mgmt.
im talking about the fans that despise him...they are a minority but a there is a solid amount of eagle fans who would not have a problem outright releasing him
as for the team maybe im being naive but i think that mentality left with banner
It's not being reported anywhere else, other than Mosher and FFLToolbox who follow eachother.
Pimp is my last and final jersey purchase so he stays forever.
I want to get all super-homertastic about a player I've constantly called an idiot because some guy on the internet is spitballing ideas about a trade that's never going to happen. I could easily spend all day ranting about why I think this is a dumb idea. I'm not going to, but man do I want to. So congrats to that guy, I guess.
In case anyone was wondering about Desean's gang affiliation, he's a crip
http://www.tmz.com/2014/03/10/desean-jackson-throwin-gang-signs-rapper-nipsey-hussle/?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter
if you grew up in long beach you rep the rollin 60's
snoop is one as well
so much drama in the lbc
Geoffffff Mosher, Jimmy Kempski and now something called FFToolbox.
This toolbox fella is the only one recently.
None of the other beat guys have anything and McLane slapped them down last week....what source could some fantasy football jerkoff have?
Look man, it happened in his simulated Madden offseason so don't you tell him it can't happen!
He's holding onto hope! I saw one tweet where he says something like "a source to a website that's been up 17yrs what do you think I make this up?"
Um yes?
Getting rid of him would pretty much be the end for me for supporting this team. Seriously, he's the best player they've had in terms of talent and excitement since freaking Reggie White and they're looking to unload him (possibly). Yeah, farg you if that's true, Jeffy.
Quote from: Rome on March 10, 2014, 07:22:46 PM
Getting rid of him would pretty much be the end for me for supporting this team. Seriously, he's the best player they've had in terms of talent and excitement since freaking Reggie White and they're looking to unload him (possibly). Yeah, farg you if that's true, Jeffy.
McCoy should bust a nut in your face.
Shady would be 1-A no doubt but Pimp's highlight reel is second to none. The PR against the Giants is an Eagles top-5 play of all-time.
Quote from: ice grillin you on March 10, 2014, 04:50:51 PM
as for the team maybe im being naive but i think that mentality left with banner
I'm being naive with ya
Quote from: General_Failure on March 10, 2014, 05:27:08 PMI want to get all super-homertastic about a player I've constantly called an idiot ....
Allow me.
I've seen the light on him, as it were. I still don't personally like the guy. He's saying "don't be a bully" on one channel, while on another he's taunting his opponent on the field. Dick.
But for the Eagles..no, it seems to me that he's critical as a total package for the Eagles. He's earning his money in every measurable way, and he's a capital A asset in harder-to-quantify ways. Dude is already an Eagles legend and he's smack dab in the middle of his prime. For all we know--or the FO knows--he could maintain a high level of production for years to come. Sometimes receivers do that. He won't be a burner forever of course, but all the guy has to do to overcome losing a step to age would be to gain some route running chops from the years of experience and he'd still better than most NFL DBs.
A trade would be a mistake, I think.
what is fftoolbox
Quote from: Diomedes on March 10, 2014, 10:17:34 PM
Quote from: General_Failure on March 10, 2014, 05:27:08 PMI want to get all super-homertastic about a player I've constantly called an idiot ....
He's saying "don't be a bully" on one channel, while on another he's taunting his opponent on the field.
lol
Quote from: MDS on March 11, 2014, 01:14:05 AM
what is fftoolbox
A site i've used for years with FFL Rankings. I just never knew they had "In's" which apparently they dont.
haha this guy is still after it
QuoteFFToolbox.com @fftoolbox 1h
@Barnold1993 We've been assured by our source this morning that it's still happening. Philly fanatics are a hoot! #Eagles #rumors #DJaxGate
Trading Jackson would put Howie lower than Banner.
Still waiting on this trade FFToolbox
So now the media is taking the opportunity to say that because Chip didn't give a hardline commitment to Jackson in his Maxwell speech last night it somehow lends credence to the speculation by Kempski, Mosher and others that he's somehow on the way out.
Roob jumped on the Mosher wagon in his piece today.
Please make it stop.
who cares?
All those teams Chip's blue balling with his hemming and hawing.
its really easy to not pay attention to things that are stupid
you just ignore them
http://blacksportsonline.com/home/2014/03/report-desean-jackson-unsure-about-future-with-eagles/
QuotePhillyMag.com's Tim McManus reports that DeSean Jackson is "unsure" about his future and current standing with the team due to all the rumors and reports about a possible trade and Kelly's disapproval of his attitude. McManus also reports that Jackson has been talking to teammates in order "to express his concern".
The chances of Jackson being traded seem to be real, and McManus spoke to an agent who said he hears "there is no way he is back". No way.
But it's also worth noting that the Inquirer's Jeff McLane wrote earlier this month that the Jackson rumors "have little weight".
Not sure if I already saw it posted here or not, but Eagles scheduled a visit with Mike Evans. Cant imagine they'd get enough back in a trade to make trading Desean worth it (unless maybe batshtein crazy junior Al Davis throws away their 1st pick). Don't necessarily put a lot of stock in McManus' quote.
trading the best wide receiver is always a good idea
Carolina has zero receivers. They don't seem to be in a hurry to sign any.
If any of this is true then I feel that's a team who goes after him.
http://www.csnphilly.com/football-philadelphia-eagles/eagles-desean-jackson-situation-out-hand
jesus gonzo is a hack...theres not a single piece of new information in that entire article...he basically stitched together words from five or six articles that other people have written in the last week or so
why also is gonzo in the studio for sixer games sometimes...he doesnt know a single thing about the nba or basketball
so is he still here ?
DGunn via John Clark says eagles are entertaining trade offers, want at least a 3rd round pick.
WTF? A farging 3rd rounder?? get the farg out of here with that shtein.
Quote97.5 FM The Fanatic Philadelphia
From Derrick Gunn via John Clark: Eagles entertaining trade offers for DeSean Jackson, Birds want at least 3rd round pick.
They're dumb if they trade him, if they trade him and only get a 3rd then they're really dumb.
zzz dude is 27 and just had 1300 yards. trading him for a 3rd rd pick would be moronic.
the only way i'm ok with dealing him is if they get enough to move into the top ten when packaged with their own pick so they could take someone like Evans (so about the equivalent is a late first). Even then I'd rather just keep him.
Why the hell would you deal a guy who is not overpaid, who is playing his best ever, and who also happens to be responsible for the single greatest game in Eagles history? I mean, the guy is a legend already. There's no reason to think his performance will drop off any time soon...hell, players like him sometimes go on well into their thirties.
Makes no sense.
Oh this is just farging wonderful.
Yeah let's deal him for motherfarging 3rd round pick.
See? That farging twat Howie values goddamn draft picks more than the actual PRODUCING PLAYERS ON THE TEAM
Patriots and SF have called about him
No shtein they have. If they hear a rumor that a top 10 receiver's being shopped starting with a third round pick, they'd be stupid not to at least check it out.
Yeah they hear it because that stupid farging funhole of a GM is seriously considering trading a top 10 talent.
Him (and Chip) have been duped into thinking this offense can score no matter who is at WR.
farging idiot fantasy football GM that we have
People I know who have ties with the team say he's a farging punk. I like his on the field persona and play but lets be honest none of us have a clue what he's really like. I'm 100% against trading him, but if they can salvage a 2nd round pick then at least they could package that with their first and move up, and still have their own second. Still makes no sense because his ability as a deep threat makes the rest of the offense open up.
Things working against the Eagles:
He's had two concussions
He's undersized
He's 27
He constantly bitches about his contract
It's a deep WR draft
Show me a good receiver that hasn't been called an icehole by someone.
(http://nesncom.files.wordpress.com/2013/12/eagles1.gif)
Punk or not he's a talented player. Watch those Football Life specials or read biographies off former players and many were difficult to deal with.
He's 27? Ok and? Is 27 the new Joe Banner 30?
He's undersized but has how many TDs and 40+ yd plays?
A deep draft? All unproven guys.
You left out he's a pain in the ass who has concussion issues and bitches about his contract every year. Look, I don't want them to trade him because they're not going to get fair value, but let's not act like he's some angel and that teams are beating the Eagles door down to get him. I think the 3rd thing was probably what was offered, first team to offer the Eagles a 2nd and he's gone.
Everyone has concussion issues in the NFL...when is the last time he had one?
The pain in the ass was covered by saying many great players are pains in the ass.
Do they wanna win? Then don't trade your best players because they are butt hurt about his attitude. Production trumps catching feelings because your top WR isn't a choir boy. He doesn't cause issues off the field.
And if it is Chip driving this bus then he needs his head checked.
QuoteJohn Middlekauff @JohnMiddlekauff 1m
Say what you want about Desean Jackson, there is not a WR in the NFL like him. He is a GAME changer & matchup nightmare
ex-Eagles scout
This is just the Eagles FO trying to steal attention away from the bums and the JRoll situation. "Hey look, we got our own internal shtein going down too!"
In all seriousness, a third round pick for Pimp is sickening. Maclin, Cooper, rookie?, Damaris Johnson, Jeff Maehl. Wonderful.
Breathe, everyone...
For what it's worth (nothing), this still seems like it's all bullshtein to me and that he's probably not going anywhere until next year.
Wonder how many players the 49ers were planning to cut to fit Jackson under their salary cap. Pretty sure they gotta save some cash up to cake off Kap this season.
Pimp should stay an Eagle for life. Regardless of his tattoos, rap skills, or choice of porn actresses.
He already IS an Eagle for life. Like it or not, this organization and this player have long term mutual interests.
Quote from: QB Eagles on March 18, 2014, 07:42:57 PM
Wonder how many players the 49ers were planning to cut to fit Jackson under their salary cap. Pretty sure they gotta save some cash up to cake off Kap this season.
teams that want to win at all costs find ways to fit in great players...teams that dont put 100% a priority on winning trade game changers for third round picks and cake off middling (http://www.philaflava.com/forum/images/smilies/dcracistemo0mp.gif)
yesterday Gargano said it sounds like it was agent driven. he is pretty close with Howie so it makes sense that he would have a decent line into novacare
so has jay's head exploded yet ?
This is some infuriating shtein but I'm with IGY. If the team gets fair value for a player, anyone is tradable. Trading Jackson for a third round pick is farging stupid.
Jackson is essentially a less injury-prone Percy Harvin without the girly headaches. Harvin garnered a first. Anything less would be a waste of time even talking about. A third would just be stupid.
If they trade Jackson, I hope the Eagles brass is aboard the next missing Malaysian airliner.
Quote from: smeags on March 19, 2014, 11:21:04 AM
so has jay's head exploded yet ?
It is pretty close to, yes.
I saw a report on CBS where they said Chip called him and said he wouldnt be traded
yep, Ike and Les apparently had different sources and each reported it
so can all of the bleeding vags sftu now ?
Quote from: smeags on March 19, 2014, 02:58:48 PM
so can all of the bleeding vags sftu now ?
you think if he was going to be traded chip would call and tell him so?
chip is telling him he wont be dealt so that if he is traded he can pass the buck to howie and if he isnt traded it wont be as uncomfortable when he returns to the locker room....chip can say i fought for you PIMP
if you think that report means hes def not getting traded then you need to learn how these things work...in short what ike said means squat in the big picture
Now Les is contradicting his own story, saying he emailed a spokesperson for DeSean and she says pimp has been trying to call Chip but he's too busy with pro days and free agency. This is the bullshtein you get when you have a team that won't talk, a player that won't talk, and Twitter
That's the first time anyone's ever said Jackson won't talk about something.
It sounds like there's some truth and not truth that's been circulating. I can't believe the part about Howie possibly taking as little as a 3rd is true. Even if it was Texas' it wouldn't be plausible to me. Although Chip has given himself this rep of being straightforward with his players I wonder if this has been his brand of a scared straight program.
pimp is inspired by 2pac today
QuoteDeseanJackson10
Keep ya head !! Even when they think u down !! Be there b4 http://instagram.com/p/lu4XZzONiG/
there is so much bullshtein info out on this im not reacting one way or another until something happens.
Eagles sign holographic DeSean Jackson to start opposite android version of Jeremy Maclin.
Quote from: rjs246 on March 19, 2014, 12:34:52 PM
This is some infuriating shtein but I'm with IGY. If the team gets fair value for a player, anyone is tradable. Trading Jackson for a third round pick is farging stupid.
to me the eagles are pretty much where they were after they lost to the rams in the 2001 playoffs....young qb...emerging team with a breath of fresh air coach
back then they slow played the shtein out of their offense....we all know the thrash pinky chad lewis ect... bullshtein
this is not the time to step backwards or play status quo.....its the time to move forward...getting rid of pimp would be going in the opposite direction....the kkkooper signing is fine if you have pimp...without pimp its stupid...pimp also is insurance for macks knee....hes insurance for a young unproven qb...you want foles with max confidence and options going into next year against defenses who have a years worth of film on him and a much tougher sked...its a crucial year for his future why make it tougher by getting rid of his biggest weapon....adding chips like sproles is what they should be doing not removing one of the biggest threats in the nfl from your roster
even if they dealt him for a one it wouldnt make much sense...i wouldnt be pissed or anything because of the value but i wouldnt really get it either
I get more and more scared when I open this thread...specially when BigEd has posted something. When BigEd posts, you know something went down.
If this whole thing was bs then the Eagles squash this now. Here's how I think they're playing this:
They want Desean to get his shtein together, they leak they're not happy with him and are exploring trades. This does 2 things, one is maybe a team steps up and makes a decent offer for him and they move on. But the Eagles probably know they're not going to get fair value for him, so they're playing games with him hoping he straightens his act up.
He could start by not tweeting anything ever again. That bullshtein made my eyes bleed.
Or insta-gramming or whatever the farg that's called.
Chip getting too big for his britches already? Send the guy a goddamn text and tell him he's your guy and there's nothing to the rumors. Problem solved.
But nooooo this guy wants to go hardcore ignore mode. Oh you're too busy in free agency? Really? Signing backup special teamers must be so tiring and has him sleeping in the NovaCare complex. Pro Days? Pick the phone up when you're back in the hotel and call your best receiver.
And if they are intending to trade him it's monumentally stupid and a huge step backward. Go get a rookie receiver and think he will replace that production. Rookie wideout take time to adjust to the pro game. 2-3 yrs unless it's a can't miss stuff like Fitz or Calvin or AJ Green.
I'm telling you he thinks that his offense is so great it doesn't matter who is plugged in there. Well newsflash Mr. New Hampshire...it ain't.
farging clowns.
At this point I kinda want these rumors to not be total bullshtein just so Phreak has that aneurysm.
Quote from: SD on March 19, 2014, 05:55:53 PM
They want Desean to get his shtein together
get his shtein together?....i dont even know what this means
this is all about money and how howie budgets the roster
dook went 80-1400-10 last year and made pos riley kkkooper into an actual wr...that is having your shtein together and then some
If I have an aneurysm will you ask Trotter and Salma Hayek to come visit me in the hospital?
And I don't get the "get his shtein together" thing either. Even if he's a difficult diva and a male version of one of those Kardashian whores so what? Many many many WRs are like that. You buck up and deal with it. He's not overly disruptive. Oh he got into it with his WRs coach (some mouthbreathers on the radio were bringing this up)? Remember Tom Brady and Bill O'Brien screaming at each other in Washington when Brady played like pureed ass? What else has he supposedly done to be this pain in the ass? Want money? Every player wants more.
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on March 19, 2014, 07:49:22 PM
If I have an aneurysm will you ask Trotter and Salma Hayek to come visit me in the hospital?
You can motorboat Trotter and Salma can tackle you after you flatline.
haha...pass!
all this thread needs is more cowbell.
Why would you ever tell a player that they aren't being traded? That's a promise that can't always be kept if you're trying to make moves in the best interest of the team. In my opinion every player on the team can be gotten at any time, for the right price. Never hurts to listen to offers.
Do I think it would be a good idea to trade DeSean Jackson for a 3rd rounder? Doubtful, but if I text Jackson that he's not being traded and then the idiots who run the Raiders call up offering #36, that sure puts me in a bad place.
Is that bad place the unemployment line because you shouldn't trade Jackson for just one pick, no matter what friggin' pick it is?
The Seahawks just dominated the Super Bowl with who at WR? Doug Baldwin?
I'd certainly consider a high draft pick plus freeing up 12.5 mill in cap space in exchange for a speed-based receiver with an unknown number of years of speed left. Don't know if I'd pull the trigger but it's in the realm of what it would take. Might make the team worse this year but better going forward.
For a third rounder I think everyone would attack the Birds and rightly so.
I don't know for sure, but I think the Seahawks' defense might be slightly better than what the Eagles have.
Quote from: ice grillin you on March 19, 2014, 07:01:41 PM
Quote from: SD on March 19, 2014, 05:55:53 PM
They want Desean to get his shtein together
get his shtein together?....i dont even know what this means
Stop acting like a punk and grow the farg up...that's what "get his shtein together" means.
Stop acting like a punk, getting your house broken into and catching all those passes!
C'mon IGY, stop playing dumb. It means they need DeSean to stop being so black.
I read that behind the scenes a number of teammates have problems with him. In the past Vick and Avant were peacemakers that smoothed things over. Chip's smoothies won't be enough now.
The other thing people don't seem to consider is that maybe the Eagles know something we don't which would splain things.
I don't care much about DeSean's douchey instagram/twitter posts....but I wonder if he acts like Boobie Miles in the lockerroom. Could annoy a lot of teammates.
Quote from: QB Eagles on March 19, 2014, 09:04:26 PM
Why would you ever tell a player that they aren't being traded? That's a promise that can't always be kept if you're trying to make moves in the best interest of the team. In my opinion every player on the team can be gotten at any time, for the right price. Never hurts to listen to offers.
coaches do it all the time once the rumors get out so that they can limit the locker room unrest if the player ends up coming back
coach plays good cop to the front offices bad cop
andy was a master at this
Quote from: QB Eagles on March 19, 2014, 09:11:58 PM
The Seahawks just dominated the Super Bowl with an all time great defense?
fixed for you...if chip was buddy ryan and the talent on the units were flipped trading pimp might make sense
but chip is the offensive genius why would you deal him...be like seattle trading richard sherman because hes a "punk"...seattle isnt run by howie and leffy tho so that wont happen...when sherman does his shtein they defend him 1000% when pimp does his the FO leaks all kinds of garbage about pimp and the sheep follow
this isnt about behavior...its about two things...primarily money...as howie is over his WR budget with pimp on the books...but i also agree with j that its part chip god complex in that he thinks his offense is unstoppable no matter who the weapons are....maybe hes right...looks like we are going to find out
Quote from: ice grillin you on March 19, 2014, 07:01:41 PM
Quote from: SD on March 19, 2014, 05:55:53 PM
They want Desean to get his shtein together
get his shtein together?....i dont even know what this means
this is all about money and how howie budgets the roster
dook went 80-1400-10 last year and made pos riley kkkooper into an actual wr...that is having your shtein together and then some
he's black, has tats, and posts pictures of himself on the internet. obviously he needs to get all that shtein together, it's scary
thats why a lot of fans hate him.....i think the front office hates him cause he makes a lot of money and probably wants more
Well, let's not pretend like he doesn't have a history of playing like shtein when he has a bad attitude about his contract. And let's also not pretend like he's making next to nothing this year; he's already making a lot of money, even by premier WR standards. I don't care what pictures he's putting up or how many tattoos the guy has...I care about how many points he's putting up and how many catches he has.
The drama is stupid for everybody. That said, with his game and size I think it's pretty clear that his style has a pretty short shelf-life. He knows it and wants to lock up as much money as possible now. And the team knows it and doesn't want to get burned on the back end. I get both sides. Still, time for both sides to shut up.
hes missed 9 games in six years and is 27 years old....how does he have a short shelf life?
this notion that hes a concussion machine or somehow injury prone is baffling to me....somewhere along the line the injury stuff became a talking point against pimp...its like people search so hard for the negative with him
just like he had alligator arms and didnt try after the dunta hit...when in fact some of his career best games came immediately after the concussion
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No, I don't mean because of injury. I mean because of his size and how is game is completely predicated on speed. The second he loses a step, he's just another guy.
i agree with that but hes like three seasons away from that happening...i dont want the eagles giving him big guaranteed money when hes 32...but when you are 17 mil under a cap that is going to skyrocket over the next few years why would you worry about caking him off btwn ages 27-30
Isn't he already the biggest cap hit as a WR this year not named Megatron? I can see the team not wanting to redo a contract that they already negotiated that pays the guy.
i dont think the eagles want to pay him under the terms of his existing deal
The poor front office, pulling out their hair trying to figure out how to deal with Jackson's massive contract while still $17 mil under the cap this year.
I don't have a dog in this fight, as Vick would say. It's just all speculation at this point. Somebody, somewhere is being an icehole. But that's true of everything, everywhere.
Chip is too busy to talk to him again today...hes at Mizzou's Pro Day.
Howie is hard at work scouting the next GJ Kinne in his office.
Well then who's working all these trade offers? God damn it, when will this team get their shtein together?!
Because the trades offers make no football sense perhaps he's tasked that to Swoop?
QuoteZach Berman @ZBerm 2m
Still haven't heard from anyone around league who understands from a football perspective why the Eagles would trade DeSean Jackson
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on March 20, 2014, 01:34:02 PM
QuoteZach Berman @ZBerm 2m
Still haven't heard from anyone around league who understands from a football perspective why the Eagles would trade DeSean Jackson
guess what.....no one who isnt from around the league understands it either
It almost seems as if the whole thing was a bullshtein rumor started by an idiot, but that's impossible.
Jimmy Kempski watches this all unfold with a smug grin on his face safely from the confines of his mothers basement
get a life, jews
Probably agree with Todd for the first time ever.
Quote from: Rome on March 20, 2014, 02:43:22 PM
Probably agree with Todd for the first time ever.
thats cause you want pimp in the electric chair so all this is the least of your worries
Drinking early today?
sippin on that PIMP juice son!
That explains it then.
Also, gross.
at least we know igy has a good protein level.
He has his mind on his money and his money on his mind too.
That's not a good place for it, he should put it in an IRA or on his coffee table.
I have fantasies about this guy learning to run routes like they matter and producing for the Eagles until he's 34 or 35. He could lose more than a step on speed and it wouldn't matter so long as his game becomes football instead of look-at-me. I also have fantasies of hot women I don't know smoking my hog.
it would matter because at his size he cant afford to take the amount of hits he would absorb if he didnt have that extra gear to avoid them....anquan boldin is a pristine route runner
The WRs who keep getting it done are not all goddamn beasts like Boldin, though. In my dream, Desean is one of those. farging crazier shtein has happened. Granted, not to Eagles fans, but whatever. Dude is already a goddamn Eagle for life, and after last year I'm on his side...so that's my dream. This stupid shtein means nothing, he becomes the next goddamn Jerry Rice or Marvin Harrison, and hot chicks I don't know beg for my jizz.
I'm hoping for:
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Friggen' Wes Welker isn't a beast and has been doing it for years, over the middle, deep, anywere on the field.
Oh well, it's par for the course, I buy a players jersey and in two years he's gone. Hope it doesn't happen.
Charlotte Observer talks about a pimp trade to the Panthers (http://www.charlotteobserver.com/2014/03/21/4782998/do-carolina-panthers-have-cap.html#.UyxwyYWa96U)
They don't think it's gonna happen
they dont have the cap room, neither do the niners. i still think this is nothing more then a pissing match.
Browns, Raiders, Jags, Jets, Bengals, Steelers, Dolphins, Packers, Vikings, Bills, and Seahawks. Those are the teams that could afford him without having to do much cap finagling. Also, the Eagles I guess.
Quote from: shorebird on March 21, 2014, 06:50:17 AM
Friggen' Wes Welker isn't a beast and has been doing it for years, over the middle, deep, anywere on the field.
Oh well, it's par for the course, I buy a players jersey and in two years he's gone. Hope it doesn't happen.
I'll trade you my Fryar jersey. Reversable!
Tim McManus @Tim_McManus
Just spoke with two sources close to DeSean. Receiver now believes he will not be back.
QuoteTim McManus @Tim_McManus 11m
Just spoke with two sources close to DeSean. Receiver now believes he will not be back.
Mothefarging iceholes really are gonna do it..God Complex Chip and dumbfarg Howie....
The big play offense only works like it has when you have a fast receiver that should be double covered, and defenses have to pick their poison between double covering DeSean or putting an extra guy in the box to defend against Shady and the run. Hope Cooper can take up the slack there.
I wouldn't have a problem with trading Jackson if they could get something of equal or better value for the team, but doubt that happens.
Quote from: General_Failure on March 21, 2014, 01:39:37 PM
Browns, Raiders, Jags, Jets, Bengals, Steelers, Dolphins, Packers, Vikings, Bills, and Seahawks. Those are the teams that could afford him without having to do much cap finagling. Also, the Eagles I guess.
It's not even a good move financially for the Eagles this year. Yeah they will save some cash over all but iirc it will still create something like $6 million in dead money.
Which they could easily afford, much like Jackson's current contract.
Foles jersey here I come!
Quote from: General_Failure on March 21, 2014, 04:46:02 PM
Which they could easily afford, much like Jackson's current contract.
True, but as a general you don't want to create dead money just because you can afford it. All teams inevitably need to here and there and if there's enough room you can get away with it, especially with smaller sums, but it is effectively like taking $6 million of your cap away and should be avoided unless really necessary. They should save it for cases like habitually injured or under performing players.
6 mil dead money would lower their cap number from like 17 to 11 for this season....then it would be gone...its not like dead money carrys over for years....i cant imagine them needing more than 11 mil for the rest of this cap season
Quote from: ice grillin you on March 21, 2014, 05:13:18 PM
6 mil dead money would lower their cap number from like 17 to 11 for this season....then it would be gone...its not like dead money carrys over for years....i cant imagine them needing more than 11 mil for the rest of this cap season
True, but it's not just about this year. They have major players to re-sign next year and the following off season not to mention the FA bonanza next year they won't want to miss out on (so far 72 players that took 1yr contracts and another 18 RFAs), so they need to carry over as much as they can.
I think the point us they won't be able to afford it next year and if someone blows then away with a retarded offer, might as well think about it now, especially 6 weeks before the draft.
Definitely, I fantasize about Oakland saying here's our #5 pick, we want DJax.
Quote from: Eagaholic on March 21, 2014, 04:42:56 PM
Quote from: General_Failure on March 21, 2014, 01:39:37 PM
Browns, Raiders, Jags, Jets, Bengals, Steelers, Dolphins, Packers, Vikings, Bills, and Seahawks. Those are the teams that could afford him without having to do much cap finagling. Also, the Eagles I guess.
It's not even a good move financially for the Eagles this year. Yeah they will save some cash over all but iirc it will still create something like $6 million in dead money.
Panthers? It would be a terrible move that imo, the receiving corps would be years recovering from.
pimp's on instagram posting Pete Carroll and Cam Newton pics
I'm feeling very aneurysmish...
I wonder if that has anything to do with Howie's Instagram having pictures of Jeremy Richardson and Dave Gettleman belly laughing.
What Oregon receivers are in the draft? If none have declared to come out early are there any seniors? If no seniors or early entries then which recent graduates are working at Jiffy Lube or Starbucks?
Because His Offensive Highness Sir Chip of New Hampshire is sure to bring in one or two to replace a legit talent.
Kempski is now saying even a 3rd rounder may be optimistic for DeSean. Yeah he has a high salary and yeah it's a deep draft for WRs etc., but still. If this is true maybe they better unload him asap for whatever they can get because it sounds like there's something going on behind the scenes, and better to get what you can now before the rest of the league finds out, if they haven't already (if it's true a team like NE is interested in him, maybe it isn't common knowledge yet among the league).
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on March 21, 2014, 08:46:08 PM
What Oregon receivers are in the draft? If none have declared to come out early are there any seniors? If no seniors or early entries then which recent graduates are working at Jiffy Lube or Starbucks?
Because His Offensive Highness Sir Chip of New Hampshire is sure to bring in one or two to replace a legit talent.
You are so salty over something that's not going to happen.
Quote from: Eagaholic on March 21, 2014, 08:49:16 PM
Kempski is now saying even a 3rd rounder may be optimistic for DeSean. Yeah he has a high salary and yeah it's a deep draft for WRs etc., but still. If this is true maybe they better unload him asap for whatever they can get because it sounds like there's something going on behind the scenes, and better to get what you can now before the rest of the league finds out, if they haven't already (if it's true a team like NE is interested in him, maybe it isn't common knowledge yet among the league).
The only reason his stock would be dropping without any public reason would be those unexpected felony charges I was hoping would happen.
What, that Jackson isn't going to get traded?
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on March 21, 2014, 08:46:08 PM
What Oregon receivers are in the draft? If none have declared to come out early are there any seniors? If no seniors or early entries then which recent graduates are working at Jiffy Lube or Starbucks?
Because His Offensive Highness Sir Chip of New Hampshire is sure to bring in one or two to replace a legit talent.
none that I know of....maybe he wants the next best thing....brandin cooks.....i actually worship him but hes basically an unproven pimp
Quote from: General_Failure on March 21, 2014, 08:50:51 PM
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on March 21, 2014, 08:46:08 PM
What Oregon receivers are in the draft? If none have declared to come out early are there any seniors? If no seniors or early entries then which recent graduates are working at Jiffy Lube or Starbucks?
Because His Offensive Highness Sir Chip of New Hampshire is sure to bring in one or two to replace a legit talent.
You are so salty over something that's not going to happen.
Quote from: Eagaholic on March 21, 2014, 08:49:16 PM
Kempski is now saying even a 3rd rounder may be optimistic for DeSean. Yeah he has a high salary and yeah it's a deep draft for WRs etc., but still. If this is true maybe they better unload him asap for whatever they can get because it sounds like there's something going on behind the scenes, and better to get what you can now before the rest of the league finds out, if they haven't already (if it's true a team like NE is interested in him, maybe it isn't common knowledge yet among the league).
The only reason his stock would be dropping without any public reason would be those unexpected felony charges I was hoping would happen.
I read something about an irregularity with that money he reported stolen, though it didn't come right out and say it was suspect. Still, can't imagine with his salary he'd try a scam like that. He's dumb but he's not stupid.
i read something about him bringing down mh370
If it is some prison time coming his way, then yeah they're smart and also dickish for looking to trade him, and I'll have no problems with it. If he's just dumb with money or they think there's no one to keep him in check in the locker room and they try to trade him, then farg this stupid team.
But I'm still holding on to the idea that this is a whole lot of nothing.
No matter what happens at this point, Phreak's posts have been highly entertaining.
In an ironic twist, Jackson will get busted for bankrolling the guy selling downers to Phreak so he can deal with these trade rumors. Or for actual pimping.
He will be dealt at the owners meetings.
Speaking of owners Jeff ain't gettin off free here either. I love how he stays outta the way but there are times when he needs to veto shtein and this is one. He acknowledged he should to stopped that dope Banner from letting Dawk go. Now Joey Junior is running DeSean outta town and all Jeff is worried about is his new piece of ass.
I love Brandin Cooks too but like you said he's unproven and won't be effective for a couple years even if he's legit.
Keep posting Phreak, we just need for you to check in with us every few hours.
Do you feel like you could be a danger to yourself or others? Jeffrey?
Quotei read something about him bringing down mh370
Ha
Haha I'm good. Got my booze and painkillers and march madness
Ha, funny you mention that, I've been on and off Vicodin and a muscle relaxer for 5 days, laid up half the time with a bad back. I think I turned the corner today though.
Good to hear. I've heard those back injuries are a beast!
Had screws put in my foot yesterday. Flyin high!
Damn. Good luck. Careful with that Amstel and Jack, don't pull a Peters (oh, Jason that is).
Don't farg up the other one by kicking your coffee table when Jackson holds up his new Panthers jersey.
dont wear some next level foot brace that cant even get approved in djibouti
I got directv so no crazy shteins gonna happen
Except me sending a xerox of my middle finger over night to Chip and Howie
which is going to resolve first...this bullshtein or the plane gets found
He will be holding up a new jersey before they find the plane
He's going to help find the plane, but spike his sonar equipment a yard from the wreckage.
Quote from: General_Failure on March 21, 2014, 09:43:20 PM
He's going to help find the plane, but spike his sonar equipment a yard from the wreckage.
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Quote from: ice grillin you on March 21, 2014, 09:03:20 PM
i read something about him bringing down mh370
maybe you're thinking of DeSean's contract year, when out in his pattern he'd run out of gas.
The more this comes to a head, the more I think this has everything to do with Desean bitching about his contract behind the scenes. The front office got a whiff of it, and they don't feel like dealing with him. They foresee him dogging it on the field like he did the last time he was up for a new deal and aren't playing his games.
of course its about his contract...hes way overpaid in their eyes
its not even that they think hes gonna dog it....because it would be beyond stupid to assume that he would do that in a year that isn't a contract season and where hes getting paid 10 mil....only a bunch of idiots would assume something like that....its all about a budget and in their minds right now theres way to much money invested the wr position
He's paid slightly more than Victor Cruz, better dump his ass.
I just don't get why this is ginned up to be a huge problem the team needs to fix right now when there's other, bigger holes to fill.
A third rounder. Pshaw, big deal. Another third round selection for a fifth round "gem". High motor.
Sure he sometimes he "disappears" in big game but also teams know how to stop him cause they don't really have to respect other eagle WR's to be a problem over the top. Team is awash in cap and they go with Maclin/cooper. Get pinkston and billy McMullen prolly real cheap right now too. Well maybe not McMullen.
unspoken part of this is how he opens shtein up for shady....you always hear about the other wr's benefitting but shady busts thru the secondary defense because he never has to deal with a safety when pimp is on the field
More off field problems....Cooper or Pimp?
One gets a $25M extension and the other gets thrown outta town by His Highness Chip and Ruben Amaro III
Quote from: ice grillin you on March 22, 2014, 01:54:44 AM
unspoken part of this is how he opens shtein up for shady....you always hear about the other wr's benefitting but shady busts thru the secondary defense because he never has to deal with a safety when pimp is on the field
it's not all that unspoken, actually
Quote from: Eagaholic on March 21, 2014, 04:39:26 PM
The big play offense only works like it has when you have a fast receiver that should be double covered, and defenses have to pick their poison between double covering DeSean or putting an extra guy in the box to defend against Shady and the run. Hope Cooper can take up the slack there.
I guess we just think alike
You guys are really gonna feel silly when nothing happens.
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2014/03/22/now-everyone-says-desean-jackson-is-on-the-way-out-of-philly/
What's going to be funny in a jump off a bridge way is when they just flat out cut him because no one wants to trade knowing if they wait it out they'll get him for free.
Howie the dumbfarg
There's still something wrong there. Why wouldn't Howie look to trade him before the teams already spent their money on FAs and could afford him? There's gotta be something more than Chip has wanted to get rid of him all along.
Hard to not get angry reading all of this speculation. The idea that the eagles are going to get a zesty pick or release him blows my mind. Yes his contract is large. Guess who isn't in cap trouble whatsoever and will have absolutely no problem affording him? The Eagles. You sell below market when you're in cap hell. The money they save moving Jackson won't be used this year anyway at this point. WTF are the advantages of letting him go?
have fun getting open next year redneck racist
Quote from: Eagles_Legendz on March 22, 2014, 04:00:28 PM
WTF are the advantages of letting him go?
It really makes no sense. And it especially makes no sense that it didn't happen earlier in the offseason, if it was going to happen. Why does he suddenly have to go? His salary and his public persona are not new developments.
Either all this is nonsense and nothing ends up happening, or something big went down behind the scenes that we don't know about (and which obviously wouldn't be revealed prior to a trade). I don't know how the Eagles could explain cutting him or trading him for pennies on the dollar. They'll have to say something, and I don't see them saying "Well, we didn't like his Instagram account." They are more likely to say vague crap like "not a good fit", "not a team player" but that won't satiate the fans much either.
i have to believe if something behind the scenes went down it would have been leaked by the eagle FO by now
I could swallow (barely) them trading him if it got them back something of value but outright releasing him is just stupid. I don't care what he did or what he might have said over the years to piss everyone off, but he's just too much of a weapon on the field to give up on for nothing.
You know what's value for him? A top 15 receiver and a top 10 punt returner. If there are teams offering those two things for Jackson, then that's a good trade. Any draft pick, and if he doesn't have a trunk full of dead hookers it should be multple picks, is a bad trade.
i cant figure out the eagles end game in this. maybe they are waiting to drop the hammer on pimp after they get rid of him.
true or not dgunn said chip has tried to call pimp and pimp hasnt answered.
I hope that's not true. Only a bitch would do that though, and he's got the gene. Still...come on. If coach calls, you answer, right?
Would anyone be surprised if that was the case? I love the guy but he does have the diva sulk thing down pat.
His talent is undeniable. I hope to god they don't move him this year unless they an offer that they're blown away with. But as MDS said, I just don't see the end game here. The eagles will lose this no matter what happens. And to think, this all seemed to start on that interview at the end of the season where Desean couldn't help himself in saying he wants a new contract.
Who wouldn't want a new contract that would offer them more money? Jackson just shot his mouth off when almost everyone else would have buttoned his lip. I don't blame him at all. If he doesn't think he's worth all the money in the world, then no one else will. Get what you can when you can from those iceholes.
i have to imagine theres more to this whole thing.....the eagles have to bury him through one of their media hacks or else they will get crucified
CSN: Six reasons why they should trade pimp (http://www.csnphilly.com/football-philadelphia-eagles/6-reasons-eagles-should-trade-desean-jackson)
1. All new coaches were brought in, and he's the only one that still has an issue with his position coach
2. He makes too much and he made another contract demand right after the playoff game
3. He's useless in the red zone
4. His numbers are all down with Foles compared to Vick
5. He was shut down by Keenan Lewis in the playoff game, and anyone that can match his speed can neutralize him
6. Chip wants production over flash, and if he can replace DeSean with Evans or Benjamin, he'll do it in a heartbeat
CSN Bay Area: the Niners haven't contacted the Eagles about pimp, despite reports (http://www.csnbayarea.com/49ers/baalke-49ers-have-not-contacted-eagles-about-jackson)
Quote"Right now, he's under contract with the Philadelphia Eagles. We've not made any contact with the Eagles relative to a trade for DeSean Jackson. As of this moment, those reports are totally misleading and false."
"I do believe you're never one player away because too much can happen. You could acquire that player and the very next day that player gets injured and he's done for the year. And then you're back to square one and you have to tell yourself, 'Well, we're still one player away.' I don't buy that philosophy."
I'd like to know why CSN & Philly.com are so insistent on getting the fans behind trading or releasing this guy.
Seriously. They're doing a lot more than just reporting this bullshtein. Page views and selling their fish wrap are one thing but this smacks of something entirely different than the usual flame fanning.
maybe they are both fighting for the pimp hitjob story that will follow with the trade....the one with anonymous sources bashing him for his "punk" and "thug" behavior behind the scenes and that quotes random coaches who say hes not that good.
Like you wouldn't gladly pen that hit job yourself given the chance.
Quote from: Rome on March 23, 2014, 03:32:45 PM
I'd like to know why CSN & Philly.com are so insistent on getting the fans behind trading or releasing this guy.
Seriously. They're doing a lot more than just reporting this bullshtein. Page views and selling their fish wrap are one thing but this smacks of something entirely different than the usual flame fanning.
Maybe they are trying to curry the favor of a fairly new regime, each trying to get an inside track. Doubt they've forgotten what a decade and a half of dealing with banner and reid was like.
As to why Chip is really doing this? Maybe he is just being Belichick-like. He didn't hesitate to jettison problem players.
It's ironic that the Patriots are one of the leading contenders to get him then.
Belichick acquired one of the biggest prima donnas in the history of the game (Randy Moss) and came within a minute of having a perfect season with him.
Woody Johnson at the owners meeting: "We're looking at a number of players, including DeSean." Tampering?
Pimpering?
He will end up in New York.
The comments on CSN and Philly.com and other phillycentric websites are disgusting though. Many references to being a thug and a punk.
When did Philly turn into Boston with all the racist shtein?
1650?
HA!
Quote from: BigEd76 on March 23, 2014, 03:04:57 PM
CSN Bay Area: the Niners haven't contacted the Eagles about pimp, despite reports (http://www.csnbayarea.com/49ers/baalke-49ers-have-not-contacted-eagles-about-jackson)
Crabtree, Pimp, Harbaugh, BOOM! No tension there.
Quote from: BigEd76 on March 23, 2014, 05:08:15 PM
Woody Johnson at the owners meeting: "We're looking at a number of players, including DeSean." Tampering?
It is tampering and is against league policy, but the league is unlikely to take action unless the Eagles file a complaint.
I dont think it would be tampering if the Eagles contacted them first.
Quote from: Rome on March 23, 2014, 04:50:44 PM
It's ironic that the Patriots are one of the leading contenders to get him then.
Belichick acquired one of the biggest prima donnas in the history of the game (Randy Moss) and came within a minute of having a perfect season with him.
Yeah, Belichick is the new king of hiring problem children. Haynesworth, Ochocincho,Talib and LeGarrette Blount are a few recent ones and he drafted Hernandez knowing of his rep. I think he's willing to give anyone who can help a chance, but just one. He's a my way or the highway guy with a hair trigger. He doesn't seem to flinch with getting rid of, or not bringing back even key guys like Welker, Seymour etc. Also ironic it is often over salary disputes.
As unreal as Belichick is it still blows my mind he hasn't won a Super Bowl since beating the birds. Hey, give us 3 Super Bowls in 4 years (in all of our lifetimes of course) and the birds can suck forever after.
good take on the pimp situation
http://www.philly.com/philly/sports/eagles/20140324_DeSean_no_longer_fit_mold_for_Eagles_receiver.html
still doesnt address the larger point that getting rid of him for pennies on the dollar, or just outright cutting him, is silly. id love a guy like bejamin or evans in replace of pimp....if they can pull it off.
Quote from: MDS on March 24, 2014, 02:53:12 AM
good take on the pimp situation
http://www.philly.com/philly/sports/eagles/20140324_DeSean_no_longer_fit_mold_for_Eagles_receiver.html
still doesnt address the larger point that getting rid of him for pennies on the dollar, or just outright cutting him, is silly. id love a guy like bejamin or evans in replace of pimp....if they can pull it off.
its an unbelievably awful take.....the whole article is based on two things: 1. having big wr's especially on the outside and 2. mirroring the way the seahawks do things......yet amazingly doesn't mention that the seahawks two starting receivers last year were 5-10 and 5-11
yeah, i have to say it's an awful assessment. Basically, its a "See what the Seahawks do, we should do that" but he's got no facts behind it. farg philly papers
I'm giving serious consideration to banning the eagles from my life for 1-season if they trade Jackson.
Russell Wilson is 5'10" as well.
Horrible read. Laughable really.
Howie is avoiding all questions about pimp, simply saying "He's still under contract", but he said a few times that WR is the deepest and best position in this draft
howie has some dance moves.
Quote from: BigEd76 on March 24, 2014, 12:39:52 PM
Howie is avoiding all questions about pimp, simply saying "He's still under contract", but he said a few times that WR is the deepest and best position in this draft
Which is equally stupid, because that's not any more of a reason for a team to make a trade. This whole thing is stupid. You have to wonder what's going on behind the scenes. There has to be some major information that hasn't come out, because this makes zero sense for either side.
I saw somewhere else that Desean has been hanging with a bunch of crips lately, but I just don't get where it's toxic beyond repair.
I read that too. The Hernandez thing scares the shtein out of Lurie, no doubt.
still has to be more then that.
Quote from: Seabiscuit36 on March 24, 2014, 12:48:03 PM
I saw somewhere else that Desean has been hanging with a bunch of crips lately, but I just don't get where it's toxic beyond repair.
hes from long beach....hes been hanging out with crips his whole life as have many brothers from the LB....this is as laughable as anything else that's "come out"...shteins turned into a sewing circle of the eagles front office and the media
farg HOWIE ROSEMAN
Last but not least, yo, DJ's no sell-out
And if you can't hang in the streets, then get the hell out
I'm not tryin to tell ya what to do
You have your own freedom of choice who to listen to
You knew good from bad, fair from foul, right from wrong
Now your mother's singing that sad song
(My baby ain't never hurt nobody! )
But he still got smoked at Bebe's party
But you're not the first or the last
You're nothin but a short story from the past
You're dead now, not number one but a zero
Take notes from DJ, the football hero :deion
:paranoid
Quote from: ice grillin you on March 24, 2014, 02:05:17 PM
Quote from: Seabiscuit36 on March 24, 2014, 12:48:03 PM
I saw somewhere else that Desean has been hanging with a bunch of crips lately, but I just don't get where it's toxic beyond repair.
hes from long beach....hes been hanging out with crips his whole life as have many brothers from the LB....this is as laughable as anything else that's "come out"...shteins turned into a sewing circle of the eagles front office and the media
Obviously, that's why I don't get why it'd be an issue now. What it all comes down to is Does he help the team if he's playing. Yes. If he turns bitchmode again, and acts disinterested then sit him. Don't just cut him loose when he has little value.
The crip thing is gonna be a problem when he's on the Niners, huh
I don't know what's worse:
- The Eagles trying to get rid of their best receiver.
- The Eagles letting the whole world know that they're trying to get rid of their best receiver, thereby drastically reducing his potential trade value.
- You jerkoffs posting every thought you have on the subject.
Right now it's a dead heat.
it's not a gang issue. it's all $$$. dj wants more but the eagles think he's already making more than he's worth. the fact that he can be disruptive when he's not happy with his contract only complicates things.
he'll be gone...the eagles will be a little worse for it....and he'll ask his new team for more $$ in a year or two.
Quote from: rjs246 on March 24, 2014, 02:51:00 PM
I don't know what's worse:
- The Eagles trying to get rid of their best receiver.
- The Eagles letting the whole world know that they're trying to get rid of their best receiver, thereby drastically reducing his potential trade value.
- You jerkoffs posting every thought you have on the subject.
Right now it's a dead heat.
a bunch of grown men calling a football player "pimp".
Quote from: rjs246 on March 24, 2014, 02:51:00 PM
I don't know what's worse:
- The Eagles trying to get rid of their best receiver.
- The Eagles letting the whole world know that they're trying to get rid of their best receiver, thereby drastically reducing his potential trade value.
- You jerkoffs posting every thought you have on the subject.
Right now it's a dead heat.
(http://i.imgur.com/znR4U.gif)
ha
I'm going to believe this is all pre-draft misdirection, and the onset of the draft will end all this talk. If I'm right, the Eagles win a Super Bowl this year...guaranteed
Great, the year I stop watching.
Quote from: BigEd76 on March 24, 2014, 12:39:52 PM
Howie is avoiding all questions about pimp, simply saying "He's still under contract", but he said a few times that WR is the deepest and best position in this draft
Howie's grown on me a bit. He made some good moves last offseason, and was the driving force behind bringing Chip here...plus he's personable. Maybe he's not Philly personable but he's a million x better than Banner. That being said, the above is a Banneresque type of quote.
http://www.philly.com/philly/sports/eagles/20140325_DeSean_s_days_as_an_Eagle_are_all_but_over.html
So it looks like this one is all on Chip. The God Complex didn't take long to come out. Successful in his first year obviously means that he believes his offense is revolutionary and that it operates on plug and play rather than talent.
And WTF is this shtein?
QuoteNFL sources have indicated that the Eagles decided to move on from Jackson after his South Philadelphia home was burglarized in early January.
Jackson, who was away at the time of the burglary, told police that $200,000 in cash was stolen as well as a 9mm handgun and jewelry valued at about $125,000.
There were no signs of forced entry, police said, though security cameras in the house had been tampered with. Police said they have nothing pointing toward Jackson's doing anything wrong or that he filed a fraudulent report.
Totally a reason to get rid of a talented player!
So in summary Chip wants us to know that Smoothies, loud practice music and a fast paced offense are greater than talent.
Unless there's some hidden reason they have to get rid of DeSean now, I hope Howie has the sense not to trade him for anything less than a 5th rounder. If they don't need the cap room, better to hold on to him right up until the beginning of the season if need be. Teams always get injuries etc. and get stuck needing a good player. Coaches/gms on the hot seat might get desperate if their top wr goes down.
Plot twist?
QuoteDesean Jackson @DeseanJackson10 7m
Good to Talk to BIg Chip today !! Say or hear what ya want !! The Picture speaks for itself !! Winner... http://instagram.com/p/l9Cs-DuNmJ/
http://instagram.com/p/l9Cs-DuNmJ/#
So, he's changing gangs?
"hey desean we tried to trade you but no one is offering us anything higher than a 4th, so we're gonna keep you"
"thx coach u be ma homie i respek u fo real birdgang 4 life jaccpot"
What scares me most is Cooper on one side and the gimp Maclin on the other side with no one else.
These guys are idiots and it's the reason I don't think they'll trade him.
Quote from: hbionic on March 25, 2014, 02:08:20 AM
What scares me most is Cooper on one side and the gimp Maclin on the other side with no one else.
well to be fair they do have other weapons...shady sproles tight ends.....tight ends specifically chip loves....but why would you take your biggest threat off the team for no reason...a threat that helps everyone else tremendously...this isnt about the offense sucking if pimp goes....he isnt
that good....the organization wont fall apart...and the franchise isnt going to shrivel up and move to manitoba...but he would be the difference between the offense being potentially all time great versus a very good offense in 2014
bottom line is you dont make your team significantly worse for no reason....especially on the side of the ball that is relied on to carry the team
McLane (every time I write his name I think of the movie Die Hard) said that "sources" have told him that DeSean has called teammates to tell them that he is staying after his conversation with The Chippah.
So either he really stays...meaning they couldn't get shtein for him on the market or because they were just floating him out there to see what the value was...or Chip tells him that and then they deal him anyways and he proceeds to blast the Eagles for lying to him.
Fun times.
or pimp is just farging with the eagles
or the talk went well but nothing was was said about whether hes coming back and pimp is misinterpreting the conversation
or chip said if it was up to me you will be back
or.....
Or it was all bullshtein speculation by a pack of ravenous mongrel reporters who use anonymous sources instead of insisting on them going on the record.
Howie doesn't comment "he's under contract" if there's nothing to it. Not like he's unaware of what's going on.
Pretty sure the Eagles pulled some psychology on Desean. They don't want him dogging it and crying for a new contract...they showed him he's expendable and they're willing to move on without him. Throw in a deep wr draft and they may have played this right.
Good cop: Chip
Bad cop: Howie
I'm still hoping they go WR in the first.
Quote from: Rome on March 25, 2014, 12:14:03 PM
Or it was all bullshtein speculation by a pack of ravenous mongrel reporters who use anonymous sources instead of insisting on them going on the record.
no, sorry, can't be. that would mean all of the hyperboling was for nothing.
Quote from: SD on March 25, 2014, 12:18:54 PM
Howie doesn't comment "he's under contract" if there's nothing to it. Not like he's unaware of what's going on.
Pretty sure the Eagles pulled some psychology on Desean. They don't want him dogging it and crying for a new contract...they showed him he's expendable and they're willing to move on without him. Throw in a deep wr draft and they may have played this right.
that would be a silly strategy.....all he has to do is be on the team for one day this coming season and then from day 2 until the end of the year dog it and he still gets his 11 mil from the team...that would be a pretty big risk for a FO who has farged with the guy all offseason and a FO that probably doesnt want to pay him 11 mil even if he gave his all
LesBo:
QuoteA source close to Jackson said Kelly told his star wideout "don't worry about anything and keep working hard and be ready for camp."
Didn't say
whose camp
Ed knows shtein.
camp fire girls ?
Quote from: smeags on March 25, 2014, 01:16:35 PM
camp fire girls ?
The band? With their one and only hit Buttercup?
QuoteI SIT BAC & LAUGH AT THE REPORTS THAT COME OUT !! AT THE END OF THE DAY ITS ENTERTAINMENT GOTTA REMEMBER THAT !! NOT TRUE FACTS #10mode Got Much Love For All his Fans Regardless
MOST OF THE REPORTS THAT COME OUT ARE HILARIOUS!! IF U LISTEN TO HALF OF THEM YOULL BE FOOLED!! THEMEDIA LOL
incredible. It seems early January is now the only time of year this team is truly predictable.
Not a single Mea Culpa from the third rate assjacks that drummed up this nonsense to begin with.
Apparently Lurie no commented and they're reading into that now
He's never commented on football shtein really
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2014/03/25/desean-situation-likely-hasnt-changed/
http://www.csnphilly.com/football-philadelphia-eagles/vick-maybe-its-time-change-desean
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on March 25, 2014, 07:24:00 PM
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2014/03/25/desean-situation-likely-hasnt-changed/
Phreak, isn't Profootball talk one of the sites that started the rumors to begin with?
I don't believe so...Jimmy Kempski from Philly.com was the first I saw and then Geoff Mosher from CSN ran with it
odds are still gets traded....if it was BS the eagles wouldve squashed it weeks ago
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on March 25, 2014, 07:28:13 PM
http://www.csnphilly.com/football-philadelphia-eagles/vick-maybe-its-time-change-desean
telling
Chipper of New Hampshire showed up to his table at the PC this morning and 95% of all the reporters there were waiting on him to which he replied..."you gotta be shteinting me".
No, Chip. This is what happens when you and your boss allow something to fester.
Buck up, son.
more like welcome to the nfl.....this is what it is and why he very well may be at georgia next year
lol
thread gets better by the minute.
Quote from: ice grillin you on March 26, 2014, 09:13:49 AM
more like welcome to the nfl.....this is what it is and why he very well may be at georgia next year
The other coaches tables were basically empty. Harbaugh and Carroll? Ghost town.
If this drama wasn't unfolding then it would have been the Philly guys and that's it.
Oh and Chip was shocked when they asked him about Mathis. He raves about how great of a player he is and then is asked about him being on the block and he has no clue.
Good job, Howie.
Geek farg is ruining this team
its not just the media requirments its the contract drama in the nfl that you dont have to worry about and free agency and not being able to go out and pick the players you want
chip is a road dawg....and a football hound....thats why he went to so many pro days....the nfl's version of recruiting but without having a say in who you get....hes not down with all this other non football related bullshtein
i feel like dook was made for college
he already admitted that he liked being involved in football all the time instead of having to do recruiting in college. he doesn't do this non football shtein unless he's absolutely forced like at the Owner's Meetings.
he also admitted once (maybe twice) that hed never leave oregon
that's nothing to admit. he may have stated it.
$50 says he's still in the pros in 2 years
you mean on sept 1 2017?
2014 + 2 years = 2016
2014 he is clearly coaching so thats a free year.....so basically you are saying he will coach one more year after this one?
i wont take that bet
eventhough you said he will probably end up in georgia next year ?
"probably" does not equal bet 50 bucks
also its not all in his hands...theres not even a guarantee there will be an opening at georgia or any program that is of the level of chip kelly...hes not going back to coach at purdue...
i just have a gut that mark richt will be gone and georgia will end up being a perfect fit for chipper...call it a gawds intuition...say word
Is there any chance you could stop betting people when you have no intention of going thru with it?
Thx
Quote from: Rome on March 26, 2014, 02:43:50 PM
stop betting people when you have no intention of going thru with it?
lol what?
you must have forgotten your reading glasses today
coaching in the SEC is filled with more bullshtein than the NFL....you gotta beg boosters for money, deal with insane fans, parents, administrators, convince retarded 16 year old southern black kids to come to your school. im pretty sure chip likes being in the nfl, plus hes an egomaniac and winning a super bowl >>>>>>> winning a natty title.
stop being a shook bitch. youre more worried about shtein than an old jewish lady. chip aint goin nowhere.
its like watch the view around here at times.
i did some research because of how in 2011 desean admitted (after the season) that his contract situation was distracting him.
of course the mouth breathers take "distracted" and turn it into "quitting". so the common narrative now is that desean quit on the team in 2011.
so i looked up some numbers
Maclin's best year = 70 catches, 964 yards, 10 TD in 16 games
Cooper's best year = 47 catches, 835 yards, 8 TD in 16 games
Desean's "Quit" year = 58 catches, 961 yards, 4 TD in 15 games
That's some hard hitting analysis right there but I wish you had more charts. C+
Needs an infographic.
Anyone who watched Desean in 2011 knew he was dogging it on the field.
really dogged his way to as many yards as Maclin has had in his best year
The 4 TDs versus 10 TDs is more significant, to me.
More than that, when he's taking plays off, he's not opening things up for other players which is a big part of his value.
Quote from: SunMo on March 27, 2014, 09:09:43 AM
i did some research because of how in 2011 desean admitted (after the season) that his contract situation was distracting him.
of course the mouth breathers take "distracted" and turn it into "quitting". so the common narrative now is that desean quit on the team in 2011.
so i looked up some numbers
Maclin's best year = 70 catches, 964 yards, 10 TD in 16 games
Cooper's best year = 47 catches, 835 yards, 8 TD in 16 games -
Desean's "Quit" year = 58 catches, 961 yards, 4 TD in 15 games
also the year pimp supposedly took off he had mike vick and vince young throwing him the ball
Maclin has never been good imo. When you look at Deseans raw stats you aren't taking into account his affect on the team. Tell us how the team played in 2011, btw 8-8 is a completely misleading record. The Eagles were horrid that year, season was over by week 5.
Wait until he's gone and they have mediocre or less than mediocre receivers and the unwashed masses are clamoring for a good WR....oh ok...then they'll remember the one they ran outta town because he's some sort of quitter in their eyes.
Idiots.
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on March 27, 2014, 12:07:43 PM
Wait until he's gone and they have mediocre or less than mediocre receivers and the unwashed masses are clamoring for a good WR....oh ok...then they'll remember the one they ran outta town because he's some sort of quitter in their eyes.
Idiots.
I don't want him gone. I want him to make what he is slated to make and play to the best of his abilities. What I don't want is a sour reciever who is being appropriatly compensated spoiling the whole squad.
Quote from: MDS on March 26, 2014, 03:07:01 PM
coaching in the SEC is filled with more bullshtein than the NFL....you gotta beg boosters for money, deal with insane fans, parents, administrators, convince retarded 16 year old southern black kids to come to your school. im pretty sure chip likes being in the nfl, plus hes an egomaniac and winning a super bowl >>>>>>> winning a natty title.
How true! Can you imagine coaching in the SEC? Christ, the recruiting part alone would kill anyone.
pretty interesting that the pats agreed to re do 32 year old obese vince wolfork coming off a blown achillies but the eagles have thought about releasing an in his prime pimp because he raps
More interestingly, you believe completely unconfirmed reports, Negadelphian
you are from kansas
Not a great comparison. Part of Wilfork's value IS his obesity. And the Jackson thing is completely unclear. As far as I'm concerned, if the Eagles don't want to pay him the money on his contract this year, they're wrong. If Jackson wants more than that at this point after the pissing and moaning over the current contract, he's wrong. And it's possible that there's something else going on entirely. Or nothing. There are no facts that make this something to even argue right now.
theres no value in a fat ancient cripple....but even if there is its not even in the same vicinity as pimps value
the only reason to work with wilfork is because of his legacy...winning a title having been there longer ect...but that doesnt usually matter to bellie
They still need the guy. But, whatever. It's apples and oranges. We don't even know what the problem is with Jackson, if there is one. They don't relate.
We all know exactly what they problem with Jackson is. The problem with him is that they wanted to trade him and thought they could get good compensation in return but couldn't.
The real question is what the hell is wrong with all of you? Talking about the same stupid shtein over and over again. Creating false equivalences in order to compare situations that have nothing to do with each other. Making the same tired insults about who's from where and how racist/homerish/fat that makes them. It's astonishing that there are any brain cells left to animate your online activity, and maybe there aren't. Maybe your brain-dead corpses are just typing out this jibberish based on muscle memory. Who knows. It's something that humanity may never be able to sort out, but it's a far more interesting question than day 43 of 'what's going on with DeSean Jackson and how are Howie Roseman's feels today?'
Some people love to argue about speculation. It just seems pointless.
its not a false equivalency much less an equivalency at all...nor is any speculation involved...its the fact that two organizations who basically run their ship in the same cold hearted way are on totally opposite sides of the coin in this case....its not about comparing pimp and wilforks specific situations but the difference in the two organizations that are usually on the same page when it comes to disgruntled "problem" employees
i didnt think i had to explain that
You didn't. Everyone understood. It's still false equivalence.
you clearly didnt understand
equal in this case would be comparing the two and saying they are the same...whether it be wilfork and pimp or the eagles and pats
what i am pointing out is how interesting it is that two franchises normally so similar are on the opposite end of the spectrum here
Saying something is 'interesting' and then directly comparing the situations. You're right, I totally didn't understand.
more players defended owens.
Welcome to the offseaon, rjs.
http://www.nj.com/eagles/index.ssf/2014/03/eagles_desean_jackson_off-the-field_troubles.html (http://www.nj.com/eagles/index.ssf/2014/03/eagles_desean_jackson_off-the-field_troubles.html)
After careful consideration over this offseason, the Philadelphia Eagles have decided to part ways with DeSean Jackson. The team informed him of his release today.
from facebook
this will be fun in here.
got my popcorn ready.
farg this team.
got an update on my phone that jackson was released. so. like. they couldn't even get one draft pick for him? amazing.
He better have murdered somebody.
They'll allow a racist on the team but not a knuckleheaded diva on the team? I'd like to know what the real farging reason is.
Woooow. Must be a great story behind this. Better be.
it's all because of the nj.com story that smeags posted
Just read that article. I don't like it because of what it means on the field, but I can understand the concern.
I actually had to login just to say... wow!
I really thought this one would just blow over. I'm stunned. So they have a gimped Maclin, a slow Cooper and... um... who would be the and??
farg this team
i'll still watch football & root for the eagles.
Quote from: hunt on March 28, 2014, 01:15:26 PM
i'll still watch football & root for the eagles.
Agreed. All of the pariahs I wanted gone are now gone so I'm fully back in... but this is still a strange move! They couldn't get even a 5th for the guy? Something just isn't adding up about this.
Of course you will. Everyone will. It's just emotion right now for some people.
Two sides to every story. Clearly, the Eagles leaked the gang story to get their side out before pulling the trigger on the release. And that's smart. Just because they put that out doesn't make it any less interesting, because the team would have zero reason to cut him unless they had legitimate concerns. This is really the only way it even comes close to making sense from their perspective. He's either a gang thug or a wannabe gang thug, that's pretty clear. Neither of those things are good.
So, this is the thing that happened, and life goes on and we see what happens from here. Wonder if Andy scoops him up, or the Jets.
farg these iceholes. Howie and Lurie are farging gutless. They're not even going to talk about it.
No trade....just a straight up release.
Much like not commenting earlier on this they're going to let it fester and it's gonna be a circus.
What a joke. A goddamn joke.
Quote from: TexasEagle on March 28, 2014, 01:14:35 PMSo they have a gimped Maclin, a slow Cooper and... um... who would be the and??
Whoever they draft in the first or second round
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on March 28, 2014, 01:22:00 PM
farg these iceholes. Howie and Lurie are farging gutless. They're not even going to talk about it.
No trade....just a straight up release.
Much like not commenting earlier on this they're going to let it fester and it's gonna be a circus.
What a joke. A goddamn joke.
This isn't all directed at you, Phreak. I'm not a homer for the FO, but what were they going to do?
They tried to trade him. They couldn't. They didn't want to say much while they were looking into the issue and attempting the trade.
They decided that he was bad news and a public relations nightmare waiting to happen. If they kept him, and the lid blew off, then they'd be on the hook because they knew.
They decided they wanted to keep their hands as clean as they could of the association with a gang of murderers, and that Jackson was getting worse and affecting the team.
If all of that is true, were you thinking that they'd just hold on to him and hope for the very best?
Not everyone is going to agree with the assessment, but they did a risk/reward proposition and the value wasn't there, so this is the result.
So they're saying he has affiliations with L.A. gangs, and has a suspected murderer in the fold at his record company. Interesting, and yeah, after hearing that, like Zanshin, I can understand the concern.
The article also says the rapper T-Ron who records for Jackson's label was acquitted of the murder charges.
It's a farging shame, and this team will feel his loss for years to come.
assuming the things in the article are all true i'm not sure how you blame anyone but jackson for this situation.
also how many of you would have a job if your employerin multi murder cases ?
I'm gonna say this, if he was let go because he knows guys who killed people, STUPID. Anyone ever hear of Ray farging Lewis. So I'm gonna wait to see what else drops, because if they made this move I honestly think there has to be more dropping.
Quote from: Seabiscuit36 on March 28, 2014, 01:34:16 PM
I'm gonna say this, if he was let go because he knows guys who killed people, STUPID. Anyone ever hear of Ray farging Lewis. So I'm gonna wait to see what else drops, because if they made this move I honestly think there has to be more dropping.
According to the article, his name was directly connected to two killings. That's a trend. And they didn't want to be part of that trend, particularly if they thought it was getting worse.
Quote from: TexasEagle on March 28, 2014, 01:14:35 PM
I actually had to login just to say... wow!
I really thought this one would just blow over. I'm stunned. So they have a gimped Maclin, a slow Cooper and... um... who would be the and??
same.
Maehl baby. WR just went from a position of strength to a position of need while costing them $6 mil in the process because they don't like who he hangs out with.
Quote"First I would like to thank the Eagles organization, the Eagles fans and the city of Philadelphia for my time in Philly. I would also like to thank coach Andy Reed [sp] for bringing me in. Secondly, I would like to address the misleading and unfounded reports that my release has anything to do with any affiliation that has been speculated surrounding the company I keep off of the field. I would like to make it very clear that I am not and never have been part of any gang. I am not a gang member and to speculate and assume that I am involved in such activity off the field is reckless and irresponsible. I work very hard on and off the field and I am a good person with good values. I am proud of the accomplishments that I have made both on and off the field. I have worked tirelessly to give back to my community and have a positive impact on those in need. It is unfortunate that I now have to defend myself and my intentions. These reports are irresponsible and just not true . I look forward to working hard for my new team. God Bless."
im over this already. time to move on. he's gone. get over it.
first real thing to happen in weeks in the offseason and smeags tell us to move on. cool.
How do you misspell Reid unless you're IGY with quirky nicknames
I wonder if he was given any chance at redemption? Did he blow it off? Maybe. But he will be picked-up after suitable time for free by another team. And will play well for them. And so if it was the thug thing shouldn't the league ban him for a year?? yeah right
Wonder what NFLPA will say? Race card to follow shortly and I'm not sure in this case its as easily dismissed - not sayin valid, but will get traction.
And the Eagles did not improve during off season. And bullshtein drama follows this farging team and fargs it up. From Reggie White FA cluster farg all the way to this. farging coaches son flashing heaters while high on smack and road rage and he farging gets a farging cake and hugs all around? this was farging poorly thought out by FO
i will give the front office a pass if this move was greatly influenced by the nfl office because of the aaron henandez thing and pimp never plays in the league again
but if someone else signs him then farg lurie
After reading the article, as far as I can tell, Jaccson didn't do anything wrong. The Eagles are dumb
chip kelly
CK
crip killa
BEEF!
this from a coach one step ahead of farging sanctions from hot mess at last team he helmed. he better hope cinderella season last year doesn't to turn to a farging pumpkin this year.
If Pimp wasn't charged with anything this is just more gold standard bullshtein. gold standard and no silver lombardi farg that
Quote from: ice grillin you on March 28, 2014, 02:16:29 PM
i will give the front office a pass if this move was greatly influenced by the nfl office because of the aaron henandez thing and pimp never plays in the league again
but if someone else signs him then farg lurie
You might as well put on your farg-me pumps now, then. Of course someone will sign him at some point. It's just a question of the terms.
Apparently, there are a lot of questions about the burglary, too.
So, all of the sky-is-falling crowd is just going to give Jackson a pass on this? Do you think the team wanted to dump a talented player for no reason at all? Do you think they might have tried a few avenues before this? I mean, come on.
Sal Pal said there isnt much more to it other than Chipper couldnt control the guy, and he had some shady connections outside of football.
Quote from: ice grillin you on March 28, 2014, 02:18:54 PM
chip kelly
CK
crip killa
BEEF!
Ha! but real- betcha security just got tighter!
Quote from: JackStraw on March 28, 2014, 02:20:24 PM
just more gold standard bullshtein.
yep...just dirty enough to soil the eagles bullion but just clean enough to catch 15 touchdown passes for san fran next year
If it's actually based on the nj.com story, that reads more like a Lurie thing than a Chip one.
Quote from: Eagles_Legendz on March 28, 2014, 02:26:35 PM
If it's actually based on the nj.com story, that reads more like a Lurie thing than a Chip one.
the only good thing that will come out of this story is listening to the excuses from the eagle beat writers as to why some hack from nj.com curb stomped them on the get
Quote from: Zanshin on March 28, 2014, 02:23:19 PM
Apparently, there are a lot of questions about the burglary, too.
So, all of the sky-is-falling crowd is just going to give Jackson a pass on this? Do you think the team wanted to dump a talented player for no reason at all? Do you think they might have tried a few avenues before this? I mean, come on.
I'm not saying the sky is falling, but yeah, I give Jaccpot, or anybody in a similar situation, a pass....innocent until proven guilty.
yeah i'd of considered a pass .. and if he didn't turn it around i'd have put his ass on punt returns 100% and if he didn't then cut his ass for all to see. ida farging george hagamined his ass on a sled and if he didn't then cut his ass
nowhere did i read about chances for redemption. like Vick, or Andy's son who farging checks out in training camp bunk. now farging lurie gets religion??
plus the farging continuing story of FO farging bungalo bill fargups. it all seems so farging bush league
Quote from: Tomahawk on March 28, 2014, 02:28:47 PM
Quote from: Zanshin on March 28, 2014, 02:23:19 PM
Apparently, there are a lot of questions about the burglary, too.
So, all of the sky-is-falling crowd is just going to give Jackson a pass on this? Do you think the team wanted to dump a talented player for no reason at all? Do you think they might have tried a few avenues before this? I mean, come on.
I'm not saying the sky is falling, but yeah, I give Jaccpot, or anybody in a similar situation, a pass....innocent until proven guilty.
That shtein works in court, but not in business or public opinion. His name was connected to two homicides, he had a drug-related arrest, has gang connections, is flashing signs on the field, is missing meetings...
This wouldn't even be a question if he wasn't a football player.
Bottom line is, though, the Eagles don't actually care what you or anyone thinks, because they did what they think is best for whatever reasons they thought it, and people are going to keep buying their shtein and showing up to games. And I'm not saying that as any sort of judgement, but that's the way it is.
lurie acts like hes the rooneys or the mara's...but wins like the falcons
not that this would even be selling your soul cause i really dont see a ton of smoke here much less fire but sell your soul first and win a couple lombardis before you start actin all high post....eagles are the strobelight honey up in the club
Chip strikes me as the type of guy who would sell his first born to win games. I could see if he thought Jackson didn't fit the system at all but that was disproven last year. If it's off the field stuff I just don't see that as a chip type move to boot him.
Quote from: ice grillin you on March 28, 2014, 02:16:29 PMif someone else signs him then farg lurie
Schefter says at least 6 teams are interested already
the nj.com story was BS....pimp knows some folks who might or might not have done shtein at some point. big farging deal. but theres instagram photos of black dudes flashing gang signs and OH MI GOD.
if theres isnt more to this....like a lot more....then the organization is going to get annihilated. they said they wouldnt trade him because they didnt want to deal him to teams without them knowing the full story. i fully expect the hammer to drop within the next few days. the nj.com nonsense was only the start.
i care more about outright cutting a great player than i do the actual player getting cut. pimp is a moron and clearly wasnt the kind of personality chip wanted. fine. scheme wise he wasnt a perfect fit. fine. but he was still a talented player that couldve significantly contributed and/or fetched a return on the open market.
Quote from: Eagles_Legendz on March 28, 2014, 02:38:12 PM
Chip strikes me as the type of guy who would sell his first born to win games.
chip stayed dirty during his oregon recruiting years
Quote from: ice grillin you on March 28, 2014, 02:43:16 PM
Quote from: Eagles_Legendz on March 28, 2014, 02:38:12 PM
Chip strikes me as the type of guy who would sell his first born to win games.
chip stayed dirty during his oregon recruiting years
Right I'm saying he doesn't strike me as a culture warrior. Ashley Fox and others have been saying it shows the power Chip has amassed but I've taken the exact opposite from this.
the front office gets the gas face, yo.
Quote from: MDS on March 28, 2014, 02:40:50 PM
the nj.com story was BS....pimp knows some folks who might or might not have done shtein at some point. big farging deal. but theres instagram photos of black dudes flashing gang signs and OH MI GOD.
if theres isnt more to this....like a lot more....then the organization is going to get annihilated. they said they wouldnt trade him because they didnt want to deal him to teams without them knowing the full story. i fully expect the hammer to drop within the next few days. the nj.com nonsense was only the start.
i care more about outright cutting a great player than i do the actual player getting cut. pimp is a moron and clearly wasnt the kind of personality chip wanted. fine. scheme wise he wasnt a perfect fit. fine. but he was still a talented player that couldve significantly contributed and/or fetched a return on the open market.
i dont know if anything legit is still to come out but the FO leaks are gonna be flowin to the stepford beat writers....how many times are we gonna hear from kempski bowen mcclane et al. over the coming days weeks that start with "high level source with the organization..."...."front office source...."..."someone close to the situation..." and finish with something shady about pimp....whether its he missed 27 meeting in one month last year or hes linked to the murder of biggie smalls
Quote from: Eagles_Legendz on March 28, 2014, 02:45:51 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on March 28, 2014, 02:43:16 PM
Quote from: Eagles_Legendz on March 28, 2014, 02:38:12 PM
Chip strikes me as the type of guy who would sell his first born to win games.
chip stayed dirty during his oregon recruiting years
Right I'm saying he doesn't strike me as a culture warrior. Ashley Fox and others have been saying it shows the power Chip has amassed but I've taken the exact opposite from this.
i agree....this is lurie and his private investigators....im sure chip could have fought it and possibly kept pimp or at least put up a good fight and didnt but this screams lurie to me
Sal Pal said the same. Lurie became concerned when he heard the NJ.com article. DUMB
his beloved patriots got burned and that probably hit him hard
hes not gonna let it happen to his team
and lol even more at the philly media....now pimp got cut directly due to an article on nj.com
phone call to goodell 5 minutes ago: "um is it ok if we, like, sign jackson?
Goodell: um yeah i guess so...what did he do again?"
team: "k thanks gbye"
it was the final straw....a questionably sourced context limiting story about someone knowing other people.
again its not the end of the world for lurie or whoever to not want to be associated with pimp. hes a farging idiot regardless of physical ability. but to just outright cut him is asinine.
So far sounds like the Jets, Panthers, Chiefs, and another team(prob Pats) have spoken with his agent.
how do the panthers not move the earth to get him
Quote from: ice grillin you on March 28, 2014, 03:03:54 PM
how do the panthers not move the earth to get him
they have no money whatsoever, so they'd have to do tons of maneuvering
Quote@jkelce: We just made extremely unpopular decision but I couldn't be more excited & happy w/where this organization is going!!
Quote from: Munson on March 28, 2014, 03:10:53 PM
Quote@jkelce: We just made extremely unpopular decision but I couldn't be more excited & happy w/where this organization is going!!-Pouring buckets of money over myself. Thanks Howie!
This is just amazingly stupid...Lurie reads the article and gets concerned?
Where are his security people? The article says LAPD tried to pass along concerns and no one from the Eagles got back to them...and this was what four years ago? And NOW this is a problem?
He is going to go somewhere and ball. Guaranteed.
The suspected ties are not and should not be enough to cut bait. You should need proof.
The bottom line here is Chip Kelly thinks he's smarter than everyone and his offense will run regardless of who lines up. This article is a convenient reason/excuse to dump him.
BTW they didnt designate him a post-Jun 01 cut so the entire hit goes against this season's cap.
Quote from: ice grillin you on March 28, 2014, 02:52:26 PM
i dont know if anything legit is still to come out but the FO leaks are gonna be flowin to the stepford beat writers....how many times are we gonna hear from kempski bowen mcclane et al. over the coming days weeks that start with "high level source with the organization..."...."front office source...."..."someone close to the situation..." and finish with something shady about pimp....whether its he missed 27 meeting in one month last year or hes linked to the murder of biggie smalls
If Jackson killed Biggie then I am 100% on board with his release. farging dick.
J, don't be naive. Lurie didn't read an article and get concerned. Hell he probably wrote half of that article. They wanted rid of him for some reason, they're providing themselves cover. The end.
Quote from: rjs246 on March 28, 2014, 03:22:04 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on March 28, 2014, 02:52:26 PM
i dont know if anything legit is still to come out but the FO leaks are gonna be flowin to the stepford beat writers....how many times are we gonna hear from kempski bowen mcclane et al. over the coming days weeks that start with "high level source with the organization..."...."front office source...."..."someone close to the situation..." and finish with something shady about pimp....whether its he missed 27 meeting in one month last year or hes linked to the murder of biggie smalls
If Jackson killed Biggie then I am 100% on board with his release. farging dick.
money and blood dont mix like two dicks and no bitch....find yourself in serious shtein
Exactly. This isn't one of those things that's as unclear as people are trying to make it.
Quote from: rjs246 on March 28, 2014, 03:23:28 PM
J, don't be naive. Lurie didn't read an article and get concerned. Hell he probably wrote half of that article. They wanted rid of him for some reason, they're providing themselves cover. The end.
That's what I am saying...he's using that as an excuse to cut him. I don't believe he just heard of it today. I blame this on his security people IF he didn't know. The line in there about LAPD trying to notify them and not getting a call back sticks out.
The article documents stuff back to 2010 and 2011...and yet this becomes an issue recently? I don't buy it.
I buy Kelly being of the belief that he can run his show with any one. He doesn't like Jackson for whatever reason and Howie sees his salary numbers and they wanna find a way to dump him. The media sniffs around and this comes out and maybe it is leaked from the Eagles...and here we are...with a nice excuse tied up in a box and bow for Lurie to save his image, Howie to manage his precious cap and Chip to bring in as many former Ducks as he can to play wideout.
Haha....in words that just about everyone here will understand: You want it to be one way. But it's the other way.
Quote from: Eagles_Legendz on March 28, 2014, 03:08:22 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on March 28, 2014, 03:03:54 PM
how do the panthers not move the earth to get him
they have no money whatsoever, so they'd have to do tons of maneuvering
PFT says they have no interest, hours after Rivera said "We'd be interested. He's an intriguing player and we'll take a look at him.''
He will end up in KC...or Washington/NYG and stick it right up the Eagles asses
isnt that what you said about 5
I don't care anymore about this circus of a team.
Keep the racists, let the black dude with an un-white background and associations go.
farg this team.
Quote from: hbionic on March 28, 2014, 03:52:37 PM
I don't care anymore about this circus of a team.
Keep the racists, let the black dude with an un-white background and associations go.
farg this team.
I know you don't like it, but you realize that's a significant oversimplification, right? Do you think that they cut him because he's black? In the NFL? Seriously? And an "un-white" background doesn't have to mean your name popping up in homicide investigations, does it? Isn't that thinking racist in itself?
Just stopping by to say this sucks. This better not blow up in Chip's face. I don't care if DJax is throwing signs at the camera, he absolutely is killing it on the field.
Quote@mikefreemanNFL: Team source interested in Jackson: gang stuff totally overblown. BS. But attitude issues are a concern."
QuoteJohn Middlekauff @JohnMiddlekauff 16m
Having been around Desean Jackson for a couple years in Philly I don't think he's a gang banger, I would sign him
Derrick Ward flipped out on Twitter after the release (http://msn.foxsports.com/buzzer/story/derrick-ward-goes-on-twitter-rampage-against-nfl-espn-more-032814?cmpid=tsmtw:fscom:nflonfox)
(http://wac.9ebf.edgecastcdn.net/809EBF/ec-origin.chicago.barstoolsports.com/files/2014/03/Bj1qDTIIAAA_KYi-480x456.jpg)
farg, Rodgers is in a gang now. Get Rodgers!
THE Derrick Ward? OMG.
And you guys are going to feel stupid on Tuesday the team says "April Fools!"
I do not understand.... Hopefully he is about to be prosecuted for a murder. If not perhaps he could get murdered. Now that he has been cut we are going to have to deal with super DeSean. This was a no win situation, keep him and he would have been a sour child, cut him and he turns into the spiteful ex on a rampage. Who can afford him? He would be the perfect Cowboy.
Hey IGGY, what is the over under for wins now?
My take is similar to Zanshin's. It's clear as day to me why the team moved on and it's their right to do so. Now we'll see what happens.
My guess: both Chip's offense and Jackson do just fine next year.
Regarding gangs...you hang with dogs, you get fleas.
Quote from: Zanshin on March 28, 2014, 03:56:33 PM
Quote from: hbionic on March 28, 2014, 03:52:37 PM
I don't care anymore about this circus of a team.
Keep the racists, let the black dude with an un-white background and associations go.
farg this team.
I know you don't like it, but you realize that's a significant oversimplification, right? Do you think that they cut him because he's black? In the NFL? Seriously? And an "un-white" background doesn't have to mean your name popping up in homicide investigations, does it? Isn't that thinking racist in itself?
Yes. I'm just upset my favorite/2nd favorite player on the team is gone. That is all.
It's interesting to me that the Eagles cut him outright. There's no equivocation in the move. If you think about it, this is pretty radical messaging.
Here's how I read it:
"We don't want this guy on our team. Good luck dealing with him everyone."
There aren't many PR teams who would suggest such a message.
I'm working a car show this weekend and when this happened today it actually went through the crowd like a wave. I knew because my phone blew up like a motherfarger but it's amazing the number of people who stopped me today and asked me if I had heard the news (was wearing my Eagles visor).
This makes no sense unless an indictment is coming and soon, though. You don't just cut a guy loose like this. You just don't.
Quote from: Diomedes on March 28, 2014, 05:36:09 PM
My take is similar to Zanshin's. It's clear as day to me why the team moved on and it's their right to do so. Now we'll see what happens.
My guess: both Chip's offense and Jackson do just fine next year.
Regarding gangs...you hang with dogs, you get fleas.
word
I agree with this. He's a dumbass who's going to be broke shortly after his playing career. His crew will abandon him. Writings been on the wall in that regard for some time. His money, not my problem.
If he had a better attitude they'd probably send him to counseling or something for the gang shtein. I'll miss watching him, he was simply a pleasure to see on Sundays. But I don't blame the front office.
If he winds up in the NFC East, the Eagles lives will be miserable. If he winds up in Dallas the balance of power might shift.
At least it's a deep receiver draft.
lol - if he ends up in dallas romo will get him killed.
Quote from: Seabiscuit36 on March 28, 2014, 04:50:26 PM
farg, Rodgers is in a gang now. Get Rodgers!
Yep, Van Burean Boys. Mean muthafackas.
Quote from: Rome on March 28, 2014, 07:22:50 PMThis makes no sense unless an indictment is coming and soon, though. You don't just cut a guy loose like this. You just don't.
Two thoughts:
1.) I have a hard time understanding how you could actually think this way. If the FO really thinks this guy, on top of all his other quirks, is gang affiliated...why the farg would you continue to employ him? For a few touchdowns? That makes no sense from their perspective. They have much bigger concerns than he's a great player. Gangs aren't just rap video posing; they're dead kids. Do you want to be sending your PR guy out to explain that yeah, you knew he was chilling with gangsters, putting them on his payroll, flashing gang signs while in your uniform on teevee, etc....and you figured it was okay because he scored touchdowns?
Think about it. It doesn't add up. If you're the FO and you think all these things are true....you cut ties. It's the only thing to do to "protect the brand," as they would say in the marketing conference room.
Add to this the arrest we didn't know about until now, the abject idiocy the guy has shown in numerous ways, the diva attitude, etc.
I think it's so obvious that the FO would do this that it's hard for me to understand how anyone could question their decision. Of course they got rid of him.
2.) That's what they said about Cris Carter. So he likes to drink, so what. You just don't cut a guy like that. Etc. 20 years later, Carter credits Buddy with saving his life. If the problems the Eagles have with Jackson are what we're reading, and if they are accurate...maybe this wakes him up ? Maybe ignoring this stuff would be bad for everyone involved, especially Jackson.
He's denied all of the associative links that have been reported in the media. What I'm saying is the Eagles as an organization have to have some sort of unequivocal proof that he's tied in with them, because if they don't, then his release makes absolutely no sense.
Every wide receiver in the NFL is a pain in the ass to some degree. Maybe not to the extent we've seen with this guy, but certainly to varying degrees. To me he's worth it unless they've got another Hernandez on their hands (which I've suggested previously).
Bottom line: If he is a disaster waiting to happen, then well done, Eagles. If not, then farg you, Eagles, for being candy-ass Hoydas.
Andy's gonna sign him and nj.com gets sued for defamation.
On a scale of 1-10 with 1 being in a self-induced cough syrup coma and 10 being thisclose to committing a string of East Texas road rage homicides, where does Jay fall right now?
I'm thinking 8.47.
Unless nj.com outright lied, that's a losing case.
My point is simple: from the Eagles point of view, severing ties to Jackson was the only choice once they knew/believed that in addition to the guy being a dumb pain in the ass, he's also gang affiliated.
I'm most interested in their thinking about cutting him outright rather than dealing him. Why not get a third or a fourth? Surely some team would rather give up something like that and assume his contract rather than take the chances that they'll be able to beat out everyone else for his services once cut.
Was it the case that no team would go for that? If so, why? Did all interested teams really think they would win the sweepstakes and they all called the FO's bluff? Or did they all know/believe that the guy is tainted, and so sure they're interested in him, but not for that contract and not for any picks...only on a new deal that they might negotiate..
Did the Eagles really tell all possible trade partners everything they know about the player and why they are separating from him? If so, why? Was it that they have to deal with these teams long term no matter what, so they don't want to burn anyone and thereby farg their future chances of dealing with that team/GM again for a long time?
Pretty interesting shtein, can't wait to see where he lands/how much he's paid, etc.
like ive been saying and like marcellus wiley said today just about anyone and everyone who is from south central is "affiliated" with a gang...pimps stupidity was throwing it on social media all the time....the eagles knew he had crip friends when they drafted him....they also knew when they caked him off 24 months ago with a new deal
Quote from: Rome on March 28, 2014, 08:22:16 PM
On a scale of 1-10 with 1 being in a self-induced cough syrup coma and 10 being thisclose to committing a string of East Texas road rage homicides, where does Jay fall right now?
I'm thinking 8.47.
You're pretty close.
Quote from: ice grillin you on March 28, 2014, 08:29:37 PM
like ive been saying and like marcellus wiley said today just about anyone and everyone who is from south central is "affiliated" with a gang...pimps stupidity was throwing it on social media all the time....the eagles knew he had crip friends when they drafted him....they also knew when they caked him off 24 months ago with a new deal
Derrick Ward said the same thing. He even made the point how Chip was always recruiting south central kids for Oregon so he knows whats up.
Now we're seeing people say he blew off meetings to hang with friends and shtein.
Still no comment from the holier than thou front office.
they wont comment they will leak
publicly they will wish him all the best moving forward
Today I learned that just about everyone in South Central is gang affiliated. I'll file that next to just about all blacks are lazy in my 'things everyone knows' folder.
actually the more I think about it the more I bet they don't even leak....that nj.com hit piece does everything for them....at least half the fan base wanted him gone before they found out he was a boy in the hood....the chorus is only going to get bigger now
Quote from: Diomedes on March 28, 2014, 08:54:48 PM
Today I learned that just about everyone in South Central is gang affiliated. I'll file that next to just about all blacks are lazy in my 'things everyone knows' folder.
you could learn a lot if you removed yourself from the folk music hipster bubble you live in
There's nothing defamatory in that article that would withstand a lawsuit unless they blatantly lied talking to Crosson etc which I highly doubt. Speculative maybe, hit piece, okay, but saying he was affiliated with gang members via photographs and posting those photos isn't defamation.
i wonder what the ladies on the view think about having given all that love to a rollin 60
I have a dream that whenever the Eagles have any type of PC that they're hammered with questions about this until they comment.
"We'd like to introduce our first round draft pick Johnny Sucksatfootball...any questions?"
And then unleash the hounds.
It's one thing to grow up in the hood and another to run with gang bangers. It's one thing to know some kids who are in gangs and another to throw signs with them on Instagram. It's one thing to represent your neighborhood and another entirely to show gang symbols while in uniform on television.
We're talking about at best a very stupid obstinate man who refused to grow up and got his ass fired for it. At best.
The Eagles didn't discover his gang shtein yesterday. He likely had plenty of warnings to knock that shtein off.
If this guy throwing gang signs in uniform is okay, then Riley ought to be allowed to hang a dixie flag towel from his hip.
It's farging ludicrous to say that this gang shtein is anything other than unacceptable.
Maybe if he only had a DUI, beat the shtein out of his woman and dragged her ass across the floor or stabbed someone at a Super Bowl party? Then he'd be a-ok!
BTW...
http://www.nbcphiladelphia.com/news/local/Police-DeSean-Jackson-Didnt-Lie-About-Stolen-Money-252987091.html?_osource=SocialFlowTwt_PHBrand
Unless the Birds know stuff beyond that NJ.com article that puts it in a darker light (very possible), I can't believe the gang stuff would be the main reason they cut ties. There's a lot of idiocy in his behavior, and maybe he skirts the edge of getting involved in the gang shtein, but nothing in that article made me think "Wow, they had to get rid of this guy."
My theory is that he became uncoachable. Chip's trying to get all those guys drinking smoothies and buying into his system, and Jaccpot isn't returning calls or showing up to meetings or showing any respect for what the rest of the team is trying to accomplish. And whenever he's not doing what he's supposed to be doing, everyone else involved with the team knows he's basically farging around and smoking weed with his crew.
That might be reason to get rid of him, but straight up releasing him is an extreme move. Maybe he's got a suspension coming down on top of everything else. There has to be something going on more than circumstantial evidence of gang affiliation.
Maybe Chip noticed him in the locker room trying to recruit Ifeanyi Momah into the Crips.
What is circumstantial about your player flashing gang signs on the field?
Reminds me of the saying about hot girls, "No matter how hot she is, some guy somewhere is sick of her shtein."
The Eagles, for some reasons we know and some we'll never know, got sick of his shtein. Probably that simple.
A celebrity from the neighborhood throwing those signs is as much a sign of criminal activity as when Snoop Dogg pretends to be an actual pimp. He's trying to look cool. He tries to walk a fine line and get away with what he can because it's his style. He farged up and probably crossed that line, and now he's out of a job.
Quote from: Diomedes on March 28, 2014, 09:16:54 PM
What is circumstantial about your player flashing gang signs on the field?
hes an idiot for doing it because the nfl fines people for untucked jerseys and goal post dunking so hes gotta know that they arent going to take kindly to a gang sign...but him throwing a gang sign is equivalent to someone throwing a q dog sign....its a fraternity to a lot of people....its also more than that to the people who do real dirt....but because someone throws a crip sign it doesn't mean hes out doing drive by's....
I wanna hear or see something that says for years the eagles have told him to chill out on the gang stuff and hes blatantly ignored them to the point where we arrived at him being released....however if that was the case then you release him after the taterskin game
I tend to think this is more about feelings being hurt because he doesn't have the kind of personality that lurie and chip want and a bad salary fit....which is fine and completely their right but you can have the best talent possible or the best people possible (or you can have terrible untalented people like riley kkkooper)....you can be a good team or you can be a championship team...
I don't throw gang signs because, well for a bunch of reasons. But one of them is, I know that you don't farg around with that shtein. If you're doing it, you are either safe because you're good with them (even if you aren't an actual gun-toting member) OR you're a fargin' idiot. Now, maybe Jackson is the latter, but I think he would know better since he's from their home turf. I can only assume, he's doing that shtein because he's safe with them.
If I had known he was throwing actual gang signs and not just some fargin' urban shtein that I don't know because I'm not from that world, I'd have been down on him hard. Nothing cool about those gangs.
But Jesus Christ, imagine you're Lurie or one of these guys, and your security team shows you that your superstar is farging repping for a gang in uniform. Those meetings must have been great.
Quote from: ice grillin you on March 28, 2014, 09:28:50 PMI tend to think this is more about feelings being hurt because he doesn't have the kind of personality that lurie and chip want and a bad salary fit...
If these guys cut Jackson over being butt hurt...oh farg, I just can't believe that in any way. How could they run the organization at all if they make such stupid decisions as this? I mean, if you're cutting an Eagles legend because of feelings...then you're also dumping office people over petty shtein eveyr day. You're hiring your uncle as the groundskeeper, giving contracts to food vendors because of their politics, etc. It's just not credible. There has to be something more than zesty feelings, or else the rest of the organization would be a complete and total farging wreck.
it wouldnt be a wreck...it would make it a good organization not a great one.....which pretty much describes them to a tee
also I could make the same argument about the gang stuff....if they released a great player simply cause he flashed a gang sign and posted some instagrams they didn't approve of then they are equally in trouble
I think it has to be more personal than that...at least I hope it is....or as others have said maybe something really gutter comes out....but I don't believe that happens....I think pimp does some stupid stuff but deep down he seems like a really good guy....theres to much of that kind of stuff on his side for him not to be....for every gang sign hes thrown theres a charity hes started or contributed to in a big way or a kid hes saved
I don't think there's anything about the Eagles recent history that suggests that they would make this move lightly. And all the armchair psychiatrist shtein, like this being because Chip has to show he's the boss, or that he wants to show he can can win with Pinkston/Thrash level players... this is a billion dollar organization. People pay money to watch this team because DeSean Jackson is exciting. Neither the Eagles nor Chip nor Lurie are stupid or dysfunctional like that.
To me the question is just why this happened. Was there a specific trigger we haven't been told yet, was it the result of a long train of abuses behind the scenes, or are the Eagles trying to make an NFL-leading statement about this gang shtein? Or all three? Cutting a player of Jackson's caliber at age 27 is rare.
I think people are frustrated because they suspect we aren't going to hear anything else, and Jackson will go to some other team and resume being a huge star without incident while the Eagles try to establish Foles with Pinkston/Thrash v2.
I think like j said there is def a shorter leash here because of chips god complex....I am not even saying he wont be right about this but I truly believe chip thinks his play book plus seven TE's plus darren sproles plus lane Johnson out wide can overcome not having good wr's and win a superbowl
Hold up now both of you. Cooper I'll grant ain't anything special...but Maclin is a good NFL starter. It's not fair to characterize him as Pinkston/Thrash redux.
But yeah...one good WR ain't enough. On that I'll agree.
he was a good wr before his knee collapsed....who knows what he will be after....and who knows how he will be opposite riley cooper instead of pimp
a lot rides on the draft now....its crucial they hit on whoever they draft at the position....but even hitting on a wr rarely means he has a big rookie year
Maclin is coming off an ACL. We have no idea what to expect from him. I like the guy, but sometimes that injury can change a player's game for good. And if he goes down again, yikes.
I was wondering if there was going to be any posts in this thread today.
Maybe DeSean slit the throats of 12 crack whores to steal their panties to wear on game day, and they weren't even Midnight Green. Fine, cut him. Otherwise Chip and/or the FO are idiots for releasing him and getting nothing back- especially if the reports are true of all these teams lining up with interest in him.
If not, at least hold on to him through the draft and see if they can throw him to move up. And after that there will certainly be teams in need before the season begins. He's a top 10 play maker in the NFL for chrissakes, and they can manage to get exactly 0 for him? They farged this up. Unless there's dead crack whores.
This farging franchise is cursed, and this is another example of the curse in action. I don't have enough fingers to count the pro bowlers that have left this team via free agency, being cut, or dying in car accidents.
I'm willing to bet Chips big play offense has already hit its high water mark, and he's oblivious to that possibility. Furthermore, they'll continuing to neglect defense by not using their first 2 round picks on it again.
It's just a shame. He was the most exciting player the Eagles have had in a long time. He's electrifying like Cunningham was back in the day. I'll never forget the punt return against the Giants.
DAMN IT MAN!! Why does this shtein have to happen to this team!? This is like a punch to the gut. I mean, I understand why he was cut. I think there's a lot more to the story than has came to light as of now. I think the Eagles know things, or think things they aren't making public. There has to be something more concrete to their reasoning. It would have to be something big for me to cut him. And no...there's no farging way that he was cut because someone like Lurie or Kelley's authority was undermined, or they got their feelings hurt like igor suggests. That's just plain stupid speculation.
It's just par for the course for this franchise and it's fans. Another swift kick to the nuts, backhanded chop to the throat, sausage fingered doctors rectal exam. Just when they look like they might be turning the corner, another stink bomb drops. It's a vicious never ending cycle with the farging team.
I'm pretty sure it's not the franchise that is cursed, it's but it's our whole collective luck as a whole that creates this universe for us.
It is crazy to rely on post-ACL Maclin, Cooper and whomever else they bring in via the draft.
Even if they pulled off a blockbuster to trade up and get Evans or Watkins (which they have ZERO ammunition in which to bargain with) the learning curve on rookie wide receivers is usually a big one. Every once in awhile you'll get one who bucks that and balls out, but the odds aren't in your favor.
So lets say that Maclin's knee isn't right and he doesn't go back to being a solid WR or even worse he re-injures it...then they're down to Cooper, Arrelious Benn (knee trouble), BJ Cunningham, Damaris Johnson, Jeff Maehl, Momah, Brad Smith and Will Murphy....and whichever two or three guys they bring in.
Plus the TEs and RBs...and the hope that Foles is legit.
I'm not feeling it.
Holy Crap. Man up, people. It's not ideal, but it is what it is and you'll probably never know exactly why. And if you did, it still wouldn't matter. You don't get a vote other than choosing to no longer support the franchise, which, let's face it, is an empty threat. The woe is me routine is drama queen territory. Time will tell how it all plays out, but the handwringing is unbecoming.
I an upset that this franchise hasn't won a Super Bowl. I am upset they pissed away the McNabb years with shtein at WR and no commitment to the running game. They go get a legit WR and he blows up and they cut him in 2005.
They let Dawkins walk and then they spend years trying to replace him with zesty guys.
Now they dump a legitimate WR for reasons that make no sense. Maybe if they explained their decision then it would help people understand. But rather than doing that they decide to hide from it and let the negativity and speculation percolate.
You wanna dump your stud WR? Own it.
Quote from: Zanshin on March 28, 2014, 10:58:42 PM
Time will tell how it all plays out, but the handwringing is unbecoming.
so is the spadaro everything will be ok just wait and see act
i don't know why its so hard for homers to see that a beloved and/or super important player in a lot of peoples eyes was sent away for nothing less than 12 hours ago....sorry if people arent quite ready to shut up and move on yet
The Dawkins thing was worse than this, at least for me, philosophically.
Quote from: ice grillin you on March 28, 2014, 11:03:02 PM
Quote from: Zanshin on March 28, 2014, 10:58:42 PM
Time will tell how it all plays out, but the handwringing is unbecoming.
so is the spadaro everything will be ok just wait and see act
i don't know why its so hard for homers to see that a beloved and/or super important player in a lot of peoples eyes was sent away for nothing less than 12 hours ago....sorry if people arent quite ready to shut up and move on yet
I don't care about talking about the player. But the talk of curses and the like is drama.
Also, I didn't say everything would be okay. I don't know if it would be okay with Jackson, either, under whatever these circumstances are. But time will tell. No doubt about that.
Quote from: Zanshin on March 28, 2014, 11:05:13 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on March 28, 2014, 11:03:02 PM
Quote from: Zanshin on March 28, 2014, 10:58:42 PM
Time will tell how it all plays out, but the handwringing is unbecoming.
so is the spadaro everything will be ok just wait and see act
i don't know why its so hard for homers to see that a beloved and/or super important player in a lot of peoples eyes was sent away for nothing less than 12 hours ago....sorry if people arent quite ready to shut up and move on yet
I don't care about talking about the player. But the talk of curses and the like is drama.
im with you on that....im an atheist who has never believed in curses fate luck superstition whatever
unless the pelicans move up into the top 3 of the nba lottery....then an everything ive ever believed in life reevaluation period might be necessary
Quote from: Diomedes on March 28, 2014, 08:01:24 PM
Quote from: Rome on March 28, 2014, 07:22:50 PMThis makes no sense unless an indictment is coming and soon, though. You don't just cut a guy loose like this. You just don't.
Two thoughts:
1.) I have a hard time understanding how you could actually think this way. If the FO really thinks this guy, on top of all his other quirks, is gang affiliated...why the farg would you continue to employ him? For a few touchdowns? That makes no sense from their perspective. They have much bigger concerns than he's a great player. Gangs aren't just rap video posing; they're dead kids. Do you want to be sending your PR guy out to explain that yeah, you knew he was chilling with gangsters, putting them on his payroll, flashing gang signs while in your uniform on teevee, etc....and you figured it was okay because he scored touchdowns?
Think about it. It doesn't add up. If you're the FO and you think all these things are true....you cut ties. It's the only thing to do to "protect the brand," as they would say in the marketing conference room.
That's absolutely not how the NFL works...all teams willfully employ dog kickers, domestic abusers, and drug dealers/users. I understand where Marketing Exec Zanshin is coming from, but for a ditch digger, I'm surprised to see you so ready to defend our corporate masters.
Quote from: Tomahawk on March 28, 2014, 11:57:34 PM
Quote from: Diomedes on March 28, 2014, 08:01:24 PM
Quote from: Rome on March 28, 2014, 07:22:50 PMThis makes no sense unless an indictment is coming and soon, though. You don't just cut a guy loose like this. You just don't.
Two thoughts:
1.) I have a hard time understanding how you could actually think this way. If the FO really thinks this guy, on top of all his other quirks, is gang affiliated...why the farg would you continue to employ him? For a few touchdowns? That makes no sense from their perspective. They have much bigger concerns than he's a great player. Gangs aren't just rap video posing; they're dead kids. Do you want to be sending your PR guy out to explain that yeah, you knew he was chilling with gangsters, putting them on his payroll, flashing gang signs while in your uniform on teevee, etc....and you figured it was okay because he scored touchdowns?
Think about it. It doesn't add up. If you're the FO and you think all these things are true....you cut ties. It's the only thing to do to "protect the brand," as they would say in the marketing conference room.
That's absolutely not how the NFL works...all teams willfully employ dog kickers, domestic abusers, and drug dealers/users. I understand where Marketing Exec Zanshin is coming from, but for a ditch digger, I'm surprised to see you so ready to defend our corporate masters.
Dio, as Tomahawk said, it isn't as simple as that. Think of it like this. Let's say you just bought yourself a nice fast shiny new car, and you took out a 5 year loan to do so. After a while you start having problems with it. Then more problems. So after 3 years you're getting tired of the car. Do you just dump it in the ocean (environmental impact aside)?
First you'd try to fix it. And if it then gets to the point it is more trouble than it's worth you try to sell it or trade it in because you still owe 3 years payment on it and it has value.
Cutting DeSean without trading for a player or picks just created $6 million in dead money from what was left on his guaranteed money. Eagles just got a good safety, but still need another, but maybe better one. There goes your other safety.
And that is just the financial end. From a football standpoint the best thing the team had going for it is a quick strike big play offense. That's gone now and will be hard to replace. Jackson's speed and long ball threat is what really opened up things for Shady and the tight ends, synergistically so. To replace that they'll likely need to spend their first round pick on that wr instead of fixing the D. The car analogy isn't a perfect one, the new WR will cost less per year than Jackson and a good safety will likely have more that $6 million guaranteed, but that's the general idea.
agree with this....bottom line is chip didnt want him. couldnt be traded. they knew the gang shtein was coming (or tipped nj.com off) and that was it. he was gone.
gang shtein is not a huge issue. chip just didnt want him around. hes used to this from oregon...go into the ghetto and get a wild boy. he performs well but is a POS off the field. get rid of him because you have another 20 more coming in next year. difference is this is the nfl and pimp's dont grow on trees.
http://www.philly.com/philly/sports/eagles/252989401.html
Quote from: ice grillin you on March 28, 2014, 11:03:02 PM
so is the spadaro everything will be ok just wait and see act
Spudz tried that same shtein with Pinkston. "Oh no, they expect big things from him" kool aid speech is what we got after his lackluster rookie year.
Just give me a new owner. The gambling drunk who threatened to move the franchise to Phoenix, the used car salesman aka: The guy in France and the head usher. I've seen some real doozies farg this team over.
Jaccpot=KKKooper
What I mean is, Jackson might as well have been hanging out with the KKK and dropping white power pamphlets online. If you had a player doing that, you get rid of him. This "the gang thing isn't a big deal" is way off base. It's a huge deal. The NFL, and the Eagles, cannot afford to overlook gang culture, whether the Crips or the Aryan Nation, being promoted on the field/by their guys. It's the easiest thing in the world to understand.
Billion dollar mainstream businesses selling to kids and grandparents don't willingly carry risks like that.
Side question...if gang stuff is so common...who are the other players doing it? I'd like to know names of players in the NFL--or farg, any Major sport--who are openly glorifying ganglife in uniform, on Instagram, hanging out with known gangsters, etc.
I don't know about the NFL, but Paul Pierce and Derrick Rose have thrown gang signs and are still employed and heavily endorsed NBA stars.
Dio, let me ask you: if DJax was still pressing his luck with all this gang shtein, but was a model citizen in the locker room/tape room/strength and conditioning room, and he was actually letting himself be coached, do you think the Eagles would still have released him?
Great question. After Hernandez, I don't know. I'm having a hard time imagining the boss carrying that risk. Gangs are dead kids, you know? Dead kids are bad for business.
If he was hanging with white supremicists and putting up photos on Instagram of dixie flags and nooses, he'd be gone. People don't call that "culture," but it's really no different. Gangs do the same shtein, but mostly to themselves and each other.
I can def. imagine the team letting it slide and keeping him in your scenario, but I think it's equally possible that they just don't want the risk.
Quote from: QB Eagles on March 29, 2014, 07:15:57 AM
I don't know about the NFL, but Paul Pierce and Derrick Rose have thrown gang signs and are still employed and heavily endorsed NBA stars.
Well farg, that's news to me. I don't follow the NBA, except for a little bit during playoffs. Were these one time incidents, or are they out on twitter repping for their crews, etc?
Pierce used to repeatedly throw blood signs during games. He just denied that it was a gang sign. I think he got fined for it eventually and he stopped doing it. D-Rose had pics of him throwing Gangster Disciples signs up on the Internet, he claimed it was just a joke.
In both cases those are the signs of the crews in the neighborhoods they grew up in.
Sometimes these guys just do that shtein to rep the neighborhood, Crips are Long Beach, Bloods are Inglewood, etc. It's not like you'd expect them to be actively involved, they are celebrities, pretty much mascots for the neighborhood and its gangs. Now, even if the team is run by old white guys, the Eagles aren't dumb and can probably figure out the difference between a fake gangster and a real gangster when they have to base a multimillion dollar decision on it. Unless DJax was in too deep, which is admittedly still possible, I gotta think this was first and foremost a football decision, about establishing a certain culture on the team.
Quote from: Don Ho on March 29, 2014, 03:26:51 AM
Quote from: ice grillin you on March 28, 2014, 11:03:02 PM
so is the spadaro everything will be ok just wait and see act
Spudz tried that same shtein with Pinkston. "Oh no, they expect big things from him" kool aid speech is what we got after his lackluster rookie year.
hes the king of telling non stepfords to simply farg off if they don't have 100% faith in the franchise and dare to question it at all
Funny side note on Spudz - and I'm sure this is common knowledge - but Murph told me at a game once they came up with this site as a parody of the official site because Spudz was such a ridiculous homer.
Any chance Lee or Beckham fall to the Birds at 22? If not they can use a late or future pick to move up a few spots. What no ones talking about with this is this draft should be spent building up the D, now we have to address WR. Maybe Safety in the second, then BPA. #1 need is still a pass rusher.
to dios point i think the difference is that like graffiti, fringe gang symbolism is allowed by msm as evidence of artistic expression from belief they emanate from lack of economic opportunity as a result of historical and current military industrial complex repression.
While White Supremacy/KKK/ayran meme is exclusively the abhorrent third rail not to be tolerated one iota due to collective guilt from above. and rightly so. Yet the duality exists and is in play at all times wherever the race card also lurks.
dio is right in calling out the disparate impact, but it will continue to exist in support to those denying a "broken windows" component to solving urban issues of self sufficiency and opportunity by continuing to present these media, gaming and Hollywood profit-motivated gang touchstones as "edgy" - but nonetheless acceptable symbolism.
Another angel that's been mentioned is DJ flashes his signs and pics to help build his Jaccpot label and get his rap business off the ground. He's not necessarily trafficking heroin.
QuoteChris Russell @Russellmania980
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Between @RapSheet report and the #taterskins people I've spoken with, I think the interest in D-Jax is more than any of us thought at first.
He will end up in Washington.
I checked in on ES yesterday and the idiots there were split on whether they wanted him in their beloved burgundy and gold.
I don't for a second think the guy is actually an active gang member. I just think he's in with them. They kill kids, he catches footballs. Each party basks in the glow of the other's fame/infamy.
Quote from: QB Eagles on March 29, 2014, 07:21:19 AM
If DJax was still pressing his luck with all this gang shtein, but was a model citizen in the locker room/tape room/strength and conditioning room, and he was actually letting himself be coached, do you think the Eagles would still have released him?
Nope. The Eagles (and the rest of the league) knew his history when he was drafted, and Andy dealt with his off-the-field BS for 5 years. The franchise knew about the gang stuff before the NJ.com article, so that wasn't the reason why he was released, but it was suspiciously timed to happen on the same day. I think this was all Chip. He comes in, sees what he has in a rebuilding year, sees most of the team is willing to adapt to a new culture, sees DeSean is still unwilling to change, sees he's still bitching about his contract 2 years into a 5-year deal, sees him blow off the end-of-season meeting to discuss offseason workouts, sees he had one good play but was otherwise nonexistent in the wildcard game, and he decided it wasn't worth it to deal with a pain in the ass moving forward, and that's why he didn't talk to DeSean until a few days ago. After all of that happened, they tried to trade him, got minimal interest (and suspicious looks from GMs wondering why the Eagles were trying to dump him), and knowing the story was about to be released, decided to just release him. Stuff like this happens in the office too, and I went through it last year with my department. If you have an employee on your team that does their job well 9-5 but is out the door at 5:01, isn't willing to put in extra effort, constantly bashes the boss, gets the rest of the employees to go against that boss and makes things miserable for everyone, the boss has to weigh the pros and cons of keeping that employee around. In the end, the employee was fired suddenly and it hit our group hard, but after things calmed down and everyone was back on the same page, we moved on and the team became more productive. That's what Chip is counting on here, and it's not the first time he's done it. In 2010 he suspended then released a potential Heisman finalist in Jeremiah Masoli because of off-the-field issues, and the team went on to the BCS Championship game anyway. It sucks that DeSean is gone because he was one of my favorite Eagles to watch, but if the offense continues to put up huge numbers without him and this team is winning 12-14 games every year, I'll get over it.
I'll have what BigEd is having. Thanks Ed, that helps the wound heal a bit. Still gonna miss that guy on the field (where else, right?).
Hope he can still have an illustrious career.
Owens must have raised the bar for tolerable WR behavior; I just don't see what Jackson did that's so farging bad. Dio sounds like a reefer madness commercial...I buy weed, profits go to gangs, gangs kill kids so by the transitive property I kill kids. Good...farg the children
Who knows what's in the future for Jackson?
The Eagles have been living with Jackson, for good and for bad, for six seasons. They decided that the good no longer outweighed the bad. There is not a heck of a lot we can do about that. We'll probably never know everything the Eagles know (or assumed) about Jackson.
Was cutting him outright the correct thing to do? Time will tell for that. I think it's clear that they weren't given much of an offer for him - even a 7th would at least be something. Instead, the Eagles get nothing but a $6 million hit on the cap and the knowledge that anyone in the NFL, including NFC East rivals, can get him to a much cap-friendlier contract.
Football wise, you can't help but wonder how the Eagles will replace the talent and speed that Jackson provided to Foles. It does put the Sproles acquisition in context - someone to replace the return abilities. Maybe between Sproles and a draft pick, the Eagles can approach the area code of Jackson's total production, but even that would be at the expense of the ability of using the draft pick to beef up a mediocre defense.
We'll see, I guess...
more things that make you wonder
QuotePolice dramatically revise estimate of cash stolen from DeSean Jackson
Posted by Mike Florio on March 29, 2014, 9:32 AM EDT
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On Friday, receiver DeSean Jackson officially became a former Eagle. Also on Friday, $250,000 officially became a former amount of cash allegedly stolen from him in January.
Coincidentally or otherwise, police dramatically reduced the estimated haul of cash from Jackson's home in January. Initially, reports indicated thieves had stolen $250,000 in cash, $125,000 in jewelry, and two guns.
According to Michael Newall of the Philadelphia Inquirer, only $20,000 was stolen.
"This was a genuine mistake on our part," police spokesman John Stanford said. "His mother was giving police what she thought was in the home. [T]hey interviewed Jackson, he knows what's in his house, and he said, 'No, that's wrong.' He told them what was missing."
But like so many other things associated with Jackson's final weeks with the Eagles, this one doesn't add up. If only $20,000 was stolen from Jackson, why did he offer (according to Jeff McLane of the Inquirer) a $50,000 reward for information leading to the arrest and conviction of the perpetrators?
Something doesn't add up. It could be, if the report of the reward was true, that Jackson deliberately lowered the amount stolen from him once he realized that it simply wasn't a good look for him to have so much money in his house — and to then have it stolen.
And if Jackson provided his reduced estimate to police back in January, it doesn't make sense that the reduced estimate remained under wraps until the very day Jackson was cut.All things considered, it's hard not to at least wonder whether the Eagles wanted to keep the notion of Jackson having $250,000 in cash and losing it alive while the team went through the machinations of making Jackson a former member of the team. Then again, nothing stopped Jackson from going public to make it clear that he was robbed of only $20,000.Unless, of course, the truth is that the higher amount was stolen
http://nbcphiladelphia.csnphilly.com/football-philadelphia-eagles/some-philly-clubs-cut-desean-eagles-did?extpar=csnph&_osource=SocialFlowTwt_PHBrand
8.53?
Closer to 9
What a strange story all around.
so if all that stuff is true - poor work ethic, blew off his exit meeting etc, isn't that where a player gets suspended? I'm not disputing any of the things I've heard about DJ but did they not sit him down, spell out the problems, expectations and consequences first?
Well well well
Quote@Jeff_McLane: Can confirm reports that FA WR DeSean Jackson will visit with the taterskins on Monday, per NFL source. At least nine other teams interested.
Danny will cake him off, and he's gonna burn us twice a year.
Yep. He's going to offer him crazy money and then he'll be dancing in the Linc in a goddamned taterskins uniform.
farging Howie and Chip...good job, boys. Great job!
quick trivia question
when was the last time pimp returned a punt/kick for a td
Quote from: Tomahawk on March 29, 2014, 03:17:16 PM
Owens must have raised the bar for tolerable WR behavior; I just don't see what Jackson did that's so farging bad. Dio sounds like a reefer madness commercial...I buy weed, profits go to gangs, gangs kill kids so by the transitive property I kill kids. Good...farg the children
dio is the hipster that moves to the city to gentrify but before he raises property taxes to move out all the coloreds he tell stories about how close they live to him
QuoteLindsay Murphy @LindsayFox5 1m
Hearing that when Desean Jackson visits DC Monday Dan Snyder will not let him leave...will open up the pocket books for this
http://www.nj.com/times-sports/index.ssf/2014/03/eckel_why_the_release_of_desea.html
I didn't even know Eckel was still a writer.
QuoteIan Rapoport @RapSheet 3m
In his statement following his release, DeSean Jackson thanked Andy Reid, and KC did inquire and did due diligence. But it wasn't to be
Chiefs are out
are the chiefs out because they know something or because pimp will never live in MA
they said no probably cause they are in MA
Chief Eskin jumped in to correct Rapoport earlier by saying chiefs weren't interested weeks ago bc they refused to trade for him.
Washington reporter saying Pimp wants to play there (duhh that's the agent feeding that) but the money has to be right.
They have like $7m in cap space. But the jerkoffs on ES say if they dump Chris Chester and Stephen Bowen they can swing it
whats he gonna do when he finds out about rg3's slit?
lol
He will be making a shteinload and get to cram it up the Eagles asses twice a year.
He's sold.
youre right, pimp is always awesome
couldnt be stopped in the new orleans wild card game
SPADS!
Spadodenker?
haha i have to slow ya'als roll
they didnt cut clavin johnson....theres a reason shady can eviscerate his baby mama on twitter and throw a women (albeit a whore) out of a bus in the middle of nowhere and still have his job. meanwhile pimp rolls in late to meetings and flashes gang signs on instagram and chip cuts him.
all will be well....in chip we trust
And if Ray Rice was an eagle?
notice how the ravens arent doing anything
shady's dont grow on trees. pass catchers do. will the eagles be able to replace his product in 2014? probably not. but its just year 1 of the program. LISTEN TO HOWIE!!
Ravens also stood by murderin Ray
Lurie would shtein himself if one of his players was in county orange
ray lewis a top 5 all time LB...pimp is an electrifying player who is awesome but might even be a top 10 WR right now.
im not even trying to troll with this but has he done anything really memorable since the giants return? his stats are nice but im talking about a game changing play or something like that. granted the team stunk for 2 of the last 3 years but still.
He still was arrested for a role in murder.
Leonard Little? Had a job. Killed a lady.
Josh Brent? Killed a farging teammate and was still on the team.
Last memorable play? His whole 2013 season was outstanding!
Lolol at this comment on crossing broad
QuoteBeats By Dr J March 29, 2014 at 1:27 pm
I was thinking of a new DeSean Jackson commercial with Beats headphones. He pulls into the Linc in a bus with his new team, hopefully it's the taterskins. You have Lurie, Roseman, and Kelly out there screaming along with the Bloods wearing bandannas and other fans holding signs up deriding record label. Jackson puts on his headphones with the Aloe Blacc "The Man" song playing out. Don't laugh, it's probably going to happen.
has shady done anything memorable ever?
has anyone on the team?
who the farg cares about memories....hes at worst the second best player on the team and def the most important....and they blasted him to the curb for nothing in return......but im sure some "good guy" white wr in the 3th round will replace him
If he goes to the skins, its bad all around. The skins showed they can't keep tabs of their players off the field again with Fred "The Lawyer" Davis, and Desean will just run deep routes all day long against the db's.
What I still don't understand, had they waited till June 1st there would have been no cap hit correct? Not that I care because its not my money, but it just doesn't make any farging sense.
If they waited to June 1 there would have been a cap hit but they could defer it to next year's cap. They could have given him a special pre 6/1 designation to avoid the hit this year as well. Still makes no sense as far as I can see to not hold on to him longer though.
The shteinheads over at ES are all in on him now...probably 90/10 for/against...so I hope Buffalo or Oakland swoops in and grabs him.
Meanwhile...in North Korea...aka the NovaCare Complex...still no comments
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on March 30, 2014, 04:51:12 PM
Meanwhile...in North Korea...aka the NovaCare Complex...
lol.
Heard Bowen on the radio and he said much harder to connect with Chipper than AR. Reid would return texts, talk 1:1 but Chip will have none of that.
Yeah he's always taking shots at Chip on twitter for not talking. Most times he's just being curmudgeonly but on this either Chip or Kim Jong Howie need to speak up.
From what I saw, they're not speaking under advisement of council which is a whole other reason this thing doesnt make sense.
Quote from: Seabiscuit36 on March 30, 2014, 06:02:38 PM
From what I saw, they're not speaking under advisement of council which is a whole other reason this thing doesnt make sense.
I remember hearing something of this sort. Also why the announcement of the release was so terse.
You'll probably never get the full story. Not for a while, anyway.
People are saying the council thing is a facade because unless they were planning on slandering him it has no bearing on answering questions.
someone went through his tweets and instagramers and noticed he never puts c and k together. dude is such a wannabe crip.
Someone aka Kyle Scott aka crossing broad
He also tried to rip Jimmy for possibly missing tomorrow because his old lady is giving birth
that guy sucks aids riddled cock
Quote from: MDS on March 31, 2014, 12:08:47 AM
someone went through his tweets and instagramers and noticed he never puts c and k together. dude is such a wannabe crip.
Bonbrete Field Bloods fo life!
Quote from: hbionic on March 31, 2014, 01:16:30 AM
Quote from: MDS on March 31, 2014, 12:08:47 AM
someone went through his tweets and instagramers and noticed he never puts c and k together. dude is such a wannabe crip.
Bonbrete Field Bloods fo life!
:CF :crazy
For life? Is there a chance of parole, or something?
unless i missed something, dj's former teammates seem okay with him being gone. or are they afraid of the chipster? :paranoid
riley kkkooper and jason kelce are happy that a rollin 60 is out of the locker room?
im shocked
Does anyone here really think the Eagles are going to come clean about what caused them to kick this guy to the curb?
Jackson's silence is more telling than theirs.
Quote from: Rome on March 31, 2014, 09:28:00 AM
Jackson's silence
I would like to thank the Eagles organization, the Eagles fans and the city of Philadelphia for my time in Philly. I would also like to thank coach Andy Reed [sic] for bringing me in. Secondly, I would like to address the misleading and unfounded reports that my release has anything to do with any affiliation that has been speculated surrounding the company I keep off of the field. I would like to make it very clear that I am not and never have been part of any gang. I am not a gang member and to speculate and assume that I am involved in such activity off the field is reckless and irresponsible. I work very hard on and off the field and I am a good person with good values. I am proud of the accomplishments that I have made both on and off the field. I have worked tirelessly to give back to my community and have a positive impact on those in need. It is unfortunate that I now have to defend myself and my intentions. These reports are irresponsible and just not true . I look forward to working hard for my new team. God Bless.
Quote from: Rome on March 31, 2014, 09:28:00 AM
Does anyone here really think the Eagles are going to come clean about what caused them to kick this guy to the curb?
he didn't "buy into" chip's system...whatever that means. the gang ish was just pr to soften the blow with the fanbase.
Jackson didn't even read that much less compose it.
Quote from: Rome on March 31, 2014, 09:52:44 AM
Jackson didn't even read that much less compose it.
he absolutely did....any reids name is spelled wrong and in general its something a 5th grader could have writen....are you saying you read that and came away thinking it was professionally written for him?
anyway even if he didnt write it you said he has been silent since his release when he hasnt....not sure what more you want from him....to go on oprah or something?
lol - whatever, dude. I think it's a huge mistake to release him. Just saying there's more to it than anyone guesses.
I want him to go on Oprah.
Zero chance he wrote that. See the use of the letter K
Quote from: ice grillin you on March 31, 2014, 09:32:18 AM
Quote from: Rome on March 31, 2014, 09:28:00 AM
Jackson's silence
I would like to thank the Eagles organization, the Eagles fans and the city of Philadelphia for my time in Philly. I would also like to thank coach Andy Reed [sic] for bringing me in. Secondly, I would like to address the misleading and unfounded reports that my release has anything to do with any affiliation that has been speculated surrounding the company I keep off of the field. I would like to make it very clear that I am not and never have been part of any gang. I am not a gang member and to speculate and assume that I am involved in such activity off the field is reckless and irresponsible. I work very hard on and off the field and I am a good person with good values. I am proud of the accomplishments that I have made both on and off the field. I have worked tirelessly to give back to my community and have a positive impact on those in need. It is unfortunate that I now have to defend myself and my intentions. These reports are irresponsible and just not true . I look forward to working hard for my new team. God Bless.
Quote from: Rome on March 31, 2014, 10:12:26 AM
Just saying there's more to it than anyone guesses.
i dont discount this as possibility at all....but i dont think the way pimp has acted since his release makes it more or less likely that theres a smoking gun somewhere out there
Using c and k together is the issue.
Nice work on the bolding thing, though.
Saints are in on him now too...
anyone but washington
Maybe the fact he can't wear #10 will help him not go there....
grasping at straws here
Quote@Edwerderespn: I'm told that 2 teams not identified publicly as having interest in DeSean Jackson are in deep negotiations
Cowboys in play?
Werder also says the Patriots, Packers and Saints are out
holy shtein i had a tweet retweeted by bowen that simply said that fans would be much more proactive in demaning a explanation from the front office than they are with pimp if it was evan mathis who was releaeed...and in the ten minutes since then you wouldnt believe the incredible racist PM's ive gotten....like 20 of them and counting....calling me a stillupfront lover and north philly thug gang banger ect...what is wrong with people??
The best part is how these idiots spew hatred in a medium that can be easily traced back. People are idiots.
Quote from: ice grillin you on March 31, 2014, 02:35:14 PM
holy shtein i had a tweet retweeted by bowen that simply said that fans would be much more proactive in demaning a explanation from the front office than they are with pimp if it was evan mathis who was releaeed...and in the ten minutes since then you wouldnt believe the incredible racist PM's ive gotten....like 20 of them and counting....calling me a stillupfront lover and north philly thug gang banger ect...what is wrong with people??
jeez...really? post some of their twitter handles...I wanna reply to them
show us the tweets! show us the tweets!
i didnt really look at the names before i deleted....i did notice a few had flyer jerseys as avatars for whatever reason...if they were actual tweets i could rewteet for all to see...but i guess thats why they are messages instead
if i get anymore ill post the authors
Quote from: Seabiscuit36 on March 31, 2014, 02:38:42 PM
The best part is how these idiots spew hatred in a medium that can be easily traced back. People are idiots.
what does it matter if they can be traced back.....just as far as embarassing them you mean?
Yup, electronic record of their personal hatreds. It's almost amazing how quick they are to come out of the woodwork. Look at any time Wayne Simmonds handles his business.
Yeah...that fansince09 dude RT's racist shtein and a lot of times it is punk HS or college kids. Then people copy the tweets and e-mail them to the school admins or baseball/football coaches. A couple have been booted off their teams
Quote from: Seabiscuit36 on March 31, 2014, 02:57:06 PM
Look at any time Wayne Simmonds handles his business.
you mean other teams fans spew on him on twitter when he does something good against their teams?
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on March 31, 2014, 11:16:41 AM
Quote@Edwerderespn: I'm told that 2 teams not identified publicly as having interest in DeSean Jackson are in deep negotiations
Cowboys in play?
my girl is a boys fan and would love to have him, so consider it done.
Quote from: ice grillin you on March 31, 2014, 02:59:28 PM
Quote from: Seabiscuit36 on March 31, 2014, 02:57:06 PM
Look at any time Wayne Simmonds handles his business.
you mean other teams fans spew on him on twitter when he does something good against their teams?
generally, that's not to say the second he misses an empty netter the south jersey comes out of half the flyers fanbase.
QuoteLooks like the taterskins are serious about DeSean Jackson — 'cause TMZ Sports has learned the WR hung out with RG3 in L.A. this weekend BEFORE he got on a plane to meet with the team in D.C. Sources tell us ... DJ and taterskins quarterback Robert Griffin III "spent several hours" together in Los Angeles — apparently things went well. Jackson is now on a plane destined for D.C. — where he's reportedly set to meet with team honchos. Despite all the drama surrounding his release from the Eagles, we're told DeSean has been laser-focused on football — and has been training like a maniac. There are several teams that have reportedly expressed interest in Jackson — but with the meeting between RG3 and DJ, it looks like the taterskins could have an edge.
cant wait for football season
there's not much of a doubt he goes to someone in the nfc east. why wouldn't he want to shove it to the eagles if the money is anywhere near what he's looking for. and why wouldn't they show him the money. he still hasn't done anything illegal. still.
Meanwhile Howie just followed a hot lead on a Division III OG...while the taterskins get better
Quote from: LBIggle on March 31, 2014, 03:39:34 PM
there's not much of a doubt he goes to someone in the nfc east. why wouldn't he want to shove it to the eagles if the money is anywhere near what he's looking for. and why wouldn't they show him the money. he still hasn't done anything illegal. still.
he was a pain in the ass and was consistently embarrassing his bosses off the field with his social media nonsense and overall persona. was asked to show up on time and cool it down on twitter. didnt do those things. got fired.
that in itself is acceptable. same things apply to you and me at our jobs. the issue is from a football perspective--getting nothing for him/howie and chip pulling the baghdad bob routine is not.
Quote from: MDS on March 31, 2014, 04:10:22 PM
Quote from: LBIggle on March 31, 2014, 03:39:34 PM
there's not much of a doubt he goes to someone in the nfc east. why wouldn't he want to shove it to the eagles if the money is anywhere near what he's looking for. and why wouldn't they show him the money. he still hasn't done anything illegal. still.
he was a pain in the ass and was consistently embarrassing his bosses off the field with his social media nonsense and overall persona. was asked to show up on time and cool it down on twitter. didnt do those things. got fired.
that in itself is acceptable. same things apply to you and me at our jobs. the issue is from a football perspective--getting nothing for him/howie and chip pulling the baghdad bob routine is not.
Quote from: LBIggle on March 28, 2014, 12:54:34 PM
got an update on my phone that jackson was released. so. like. they couldn't even get one draft pick for him? amazing.
even though i personally don't give a shtein.. as a fan i want to see the best product possible on the field.. i get it. he is a moron and is a high risk and alleged cancer of the locker room. however he still hasn't done anything illegal. being a moron will drop your stock.. as will a zesty attitude, but it won't make it worthless. letting him walk for nothing was a colossal failure when you have other glaring needs especially on defense and really didn't need to make this move yet or even this year. wait and see if a team develops a need.. or draft a WR this year then transition the pain in the ass out. the only thing they acquired was a cap hit. fail.
actually nothing he did would have even been close to getting me fired at my job and if I performed at my job as well as pimp did at his they would have paid for my gang membership
also lol at firing someone for uninteresting tweets
Philly news stations, along with the DC idiots, staked out the airport in DC....Pimp no commented everything and only said God has a plan for him. Skervsky or whatever from Action News asked him if he was gang affiliated
is he allowed to join the skins? i think he's obligated to join the cowboys based on his affiliations.
Quote from: LBIggle on March 31, 2014, 05:50:37 PM
is he allowed to join the skins? i think he's obligated to join the cowboys based on his affiliations.
Bloods wear cowboys gear. The colors aren't right but for whatever reason it's acceptable. Think it has something to do with the star
Quote from: MDS on March 31, 2014, 04:10:22 PMhe was a pain in the ass and was consistently embarrassing his bosses off the field with his social media nonsense and overall persona. was asked to show up on time and cool it down on twitter. didnt do those things. got fired.
Chip Kelly aka CK aka Crip Killy has been bangin' with the Piru Bloods since '87. There was nothing Jackson could have done to save his job.
Quote from: SD on March 31, 2014, 05:52:47 PM
Quote from: LBIggle on March 31, 2014, 05:50:37 PM
is he allowed to join the skins? i think he's obligated to join the cowboys based on his affiliations.
Bloods wear cowboys gear. The colors aren't right but for whatever reason it's acceptable. Think it has something to do with the star
interesting. so a giant by the end of the week.
Quote from: Seabiscuit36 on March 31, 2014, 03:02:30 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on March 31, 2014, 02:59:28 PM
Quote from: Seabiscuit36 on March 31, 2014, 02:57:06 PM
Look at any time Wayne Simmonds handles his business.
you mean other teams fans spew on him on twitter when he does something good against their teams?
generally, that's not to say the second he misses an empty netter the south jersey comes out of half the flyers fanbase.
QuoteLooks like the taterskins are serious about DeSean Jackson — 'cause TMZ Sports has learned the WR hung out with RG3 in L.A. this weekend BEFORE he got on a plane to meet with the team in D.C. Sources tell us ... DJ and taterskins quarterback Robert Griffin III "spent several hours" together in Los Angeles — apparently things went well. Jackson is now on a plane destined for D.C. — where he's reportedly set to meet with team honchos. Despite all the drama surrounding his release from the Eagles, we're told DeSean has been laser-focused on football — and has been training like a maniac. There are several teams that have reportedly expressed interest in Jackson — but with the meeting between RG3 and DJ, it looks like the taterskins could have an edge.
Why couldn't he be laser-focused and training like maniac when he was on the Eagles? [/lament] With a Chip on his shoulder, he's going to be fun to watch this season; maybe even including the two games he's toasting Eagles' DBs.
so in addition to all the other stuff now he was also out of shape?
i cant wait to hear whats next
Maybe the meeting with Griffin will drive him away from there?
Imagine Pimp thinking how farging corny that dude is
he played with the bedwetter....i dont think corniness is going to be an issue with him
Griffin's corniness exceeds 5's
Quote from: ice grillin you on March 31, 2014, 07:13:48 PM
so in addition to all the other stuff now he was also out of shape?
i cant wait to hear whats next
Who said that he was also out of shape?
Quote from: Tomahawk on March 31, 2014, 07:21:27 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on March 31, 2014, 07:13:48 PM
so in addition to all the other stuff now he was also out of shape?
i cant wait to hear whats next
Who said that he was also out of shape?
oh I thought you were insinuating that he didn't train hard enough....which to me means you thought he wasnt in proper shape
No man, I'm saying him training like a maniac insinuates he's training even harder than normal which to me means he's going to kick even more ass this year.
http://abclocal.go.com/wpvi/video?id=9486588
hes going to mortons tonight with the coaching staff....then meeting lil danni and bruce tomorrow
ESers all fired up that Snyder has been quiet this off-season until now...because apparently he is the HAMMER and will come down from Mt Olympus to lock this up.
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/video/nfl/20140328/2014-03-28-clip05.sportsillustrated/
I feel ya, Marlon.
Eagles are retarded and the more I think about it, I'm even more retarded for following this franchise.
Jackson's release was out of spite or pride. Chip couldn't manage a player that needed a different kind of attention. Yes, I understand that you need everyone to follow the leader...but you're also not managing 53 of the same personalities. Some need a different approach than others. In football, you're always going to have that. I can't imagine that this is the first time he's encountered a personality he didn't mesh with. Newsflash: You don't always have to get along with your co-workers to make it work.
Just sounds more of the Eagles sending a message to everyone else. If we can cut desean jackson, we can cut anyone. McCoy better keep his mouth shut.
a 27 year old, whose father passed away a few years ago and whose off-field life has gone the way of Justin Bieber, is still a young kid. Chip should know this. I think Vick worked here because Andy Reid was willing to be the father figure he needed (maybe Andy felt guilty about not being a good enough father at home)....but Chip is all business, not time to farg around. Hell, he doesn't even have a family of his own, how can he have compassion or patience? I can appreciate it him wanting all of his soldiers to fall in line...but it still doesn't make any sense.
The Eagles FO just come across like a bunch of spoiled brat Hoydas.
Let it out man...let it out.
I'm still smoldering from Friday and in danger of sparking back up...farging idiot ass Howie and Chip will regret this
Quote@TheRaidersDaily TRD EXCLUSIVE: RG3 father telling people that Desean Jackson is going to playing for taterskins.Says it's a "done deal"
if they build a program around this particular philosophy of good people over great players and it wins a superbowl one day then they will be vindicated
but thats big picture....short term i cant see how this doesnt hurt the team...but maybe chippers system wins out over players...we wont have to wait long to find out....gonna be fascinating to see what happens to kkkoops and shadys numbers next year....te yards per catch will be something to look at as well.....celek went from a good receptions based te to a top 5 in the nfl ypc last year....
do all these guys numbers go up down or stay even next season??
I propose that any communications that are sent to Chip Kelly, or Howie, or Lurie are done without any "CK's" in the mix. Go crip style and 'CC' it up. Take an extra step and go Bonbrete!
That'll farg with them and send them a message.
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on March 31, 2014, 08:14:41 PM
Quote@TheRaidersDaily TRD EXCLUSIVE: RG3 father telling people that Desean Jackson is going to playing for taterskins.Says it's a "done deal"
QuoteTim_McManus
Said a source close to Jackson on taterskins: "Done deal."
McManus sourcing Twitter or does he have a legit source?
Rapoport says Raiders still in play and its not done yet.
Either way...farg Howie
Some Raiders reporter is saying that Jackson called the Raiders GM and told him he wants to be a Raider.
Come on Oakland..out taterskin the taterskins with a HUGE contract
SF is in the mix now
before its all over pimps agent might leak every team in the nfl as being interested....until he makes a visit (as in the case of wash) or theres a confirmation from the actual interested team i dont believe any of it
Quote
NBC Washington D.C. reports the Browns and 49ers are interested in and have reached out to free agent DeSean Jackson.
The Browns are "going hard" with an offer to Jackson while the 49ers contacted Jackson during his visit with the taterskins and have "thrown their hat in the ring" for the 27-year-old. If the taterskins want to land Jackson, it appears they can't let him leave the facility on Tuesday. Jackson and Josh Gordon in Cleveland would almost be unfair. Either player could take the top off the defense at any time and would provide whoever the quarterback is with two legitimate No. 1s. In San Fran, Jackson's numbers would likely suffer in a run-heavy offense that also includes Vernon Davis, Michael Crabtree, and Anquan Boldin.
Banner's going to offer a bag of shiny new nickels. Small bag.
I don't want to see DeSean in Washington but if he ends up there, best case is to be in the aftermath of a bidding war. He could help RG get back on track, which I wouldn't want to see. Who knows what Gruden could do with them. They have a pretty decent RB there too.
banner aint offering shtein.....to anyone
Isn't Banner gone from Cleveland?
Gone from football, at this point.
But he's left a lasting impression...Howie is holding his miserly and jerkoff ways down!
QuoteTarik El-Bashir @TarikCSN 24s
DeSean Jackson has left taterskins Park, a league source tells me. He was there for about three hours of meetings. #taterskinsTalk
Have a safe flight to the bay area Pimp. Please stay the hell away form DC.
Cleveland is going hard now too...
But his agent is staying in DC and they are sitting down to talk $$ now...
GET OUTTA WASHINGTON! One of these other farging teams need to step up
QuoteFollow
Ian RapoportVerified account
@RapSheet
Agent Joel Segal and members of the #taterskins brass are sitting down now to begin negotiations over DeSean Jackson. #Buckleup
and jackson is staying in town until negotiations are done according to nfl.com and csn. best move ever.
belligerent eagles fans just made a doodie in their undies
I almost want him to go to the taterskins because recent history has taught me that literally everything they touch turns to shtein. So. There you have it.
QuoteDianna Marie Russini @NBCdianna 27m
Sources close to DeSean Jackson: if he does not sign with Washington, he will meet with the San Francisco 49ers tomorrow. #taterskins
is there still even a shred of proof that he has an invite to go anywhere after washington....and even if he does who knows how real the interest is in him....i think pimps team is trying to play lil danni into basically bidding against himself and ultmately he will be in DC
What happened to Oakland? Do it for Al!
QuoteDianna Marie Russini @NBCdianna 3m
#Breaking Its official. DeSean Jackson is a taterskin.
farg
http://awfulannouncing.com/2014/fox-station-plays-crime-teaser-over-desean-jackson-highlight.html
QuoteAdam Schefter @AdamSchefter 1m
Filed to ESPN: taterskins and former Eagles WR DeSean Jackson are expected to reach agreement Tuesy night on multi-year contract, per sources.
If I was Desean Jackson...I'd be a spiteful little bitch and wait until a day before Eagles kick off the season and twitter/instagram all of Chip Kelly's signal calls, patterns and meanings. I'd do everything in my power to disrupt Chip Kelly.
All of the plays, calls, audibles, and formations. I would be a little bitch like that.
Any other team than one in the NFC East...and the one that I didn't want to see him with the most?
I hate that I have to hate the little motherfarger now.
farg YOU HOWIE AND CHIP
Ok Visor King, start plugging in. farg this shtein. farg you Oakland!
Get Garçon!
this is the least surprising development in this entire story.
I truly believe Howie and Chip farged up on this one. Its going to be a colossal mistake.
o/u for first anonymously sourced report that pimp and rgmcnabb are having issues?
week 6
so not only did they make the team worst... again, while getting nothing in return.. but they made the taterskins offense infinitely better with rg3 a full season removed from his knee injury. nothing can go wrong here.
Worst of all?
Chip Kelly now has a built-in excuse to leave the team after this upcoming season because the Eagles aren't going anywhere, the offense didn't work, and the fans hate him.
farg this team.
you guys sound like a cross beaten hysterical women and rape victims convinced that their attacker is lurking in the bushes
calm the farg down
3-year deal, supposedly huge money
Season opener here?
QuoteDeseanJackson10
ITS GOIN DOWN !! BURGUNDY & GOLD http://instagram.com/p/mRgnqDONqW/
Quote from: MDS on April 02, 2014, 12:09:54 AM
you guys sound like a cross beaten hysterical women and rape victims convinced that their attacker is lurking in the bushes
calm the farg down
You know...you didn't really have to add rape victims. You sick farg!
Quote from: BigEd76 on April 02, 2014, 12:16:27 AM
QuoteDeseanJackson10
ITS GOIN DOWN !! BURGUNDY & GOLD http://instagram.com/p/mRgnqDONqW/
That's like throwing up on your own semen. :'(
$16M guaranteed for the supposed "toxic" personality
Quote from: SunMo on April 02, 2014, 07:48:09 AM
$16M guaranteed for the supposed "toxic" personality
Good for him. Now he gets to stick it to the Birds twice a year, too.
The WIP hosts said they talked to players and that he wasn't that big of a distraction. I guess when you have a plan in place you stick to your guns. Sucks cause now we have to spend a high pick on a WR, it's a deep receiver draft so it makes sense. But they really didn't add much on D in free agency, so they needed to draft heavy on D. They didn't exactly draft a lot of D in the draft last season, although most of their free agent moves were defensive.
What I wouldn't give for a big time pass rusher. Biggest offseason need and it hasn't been touched.
Kicker was one of my biggest needs coming into this season, and nothing happened on that front either. I keep hoping that just because the contract isn't signed, Deseans agent does some shady shtein and signs with oakland for more.
Ultimately, the team farged this up on an epic scale. How anyone defends them is beyond me. They let their top flight WR go for nothing, and had the added kick in the nuts of him going in division.
Quote from: MDS on April 02, 2014, 12:03:49 AM
o/u for first anonymously sourced report that pimp and rgmcnabb are having issues?
week 6
yeah because all he did was beef with his qb's in philly
the revisionist history by homers in this saga has been unbelievable
also shame on the the eagles organization for still not addressing the gang and other innuendo having to do with pimp...i dont know if they sponsored the nj.com piece or even knew it was coming out but the fact is they released the guy a half hour after the article posted and then have since sat back and let it fester as much as possible to make pimp look like the worst possible human being...they have been pretty disgraceful in all this above and beyond the football mistakes they have made
he'll wind up dancing in the end zone mocking the eagles at some point...whatevs. but the eagles & skins weren't winning a sb with or without him this season.
im sure they wouldnt have but eagles definitely could have won it all with him....with pimp the eagle offense had a chance to be all time scary....its ceiling was ridiculous
without him they might lose the division to the skins (depending on what happens with rg3)
Quote from: MDS on April 02, 2014, 12:09:54 AM
you guys sound like a cross beaten hysterical women and rape victims convinced that their attacker is lurking in the bushes
calm the farg down
Haha... This exactly.
Agreed with igy - the level of arrogance shown by Chip and Howie is off the charts here. At least when Joe and Andy were here they commented on stuff. It wasn't always forthcoming comments but they addressed it.
The rest of the league is mocking the Eagles for this gang stuff because it appears as if their name is on that report...and they say nothing.
And of course he wasn't that big of a distraction. That is what is being fed to the news people and fans to try to soften the blow.
Chip didn't like him because he didn't giddily buy into his program and he believes he can plug in whomever he wants and it will be a success.
Howie didn't want to pay him.
Combine those two things and here we are...with him in their division for the next three years.
Bang up job, boys.
you think it looks bad now...wait until if pimp starts talking next year after big games...after big games vs the eagles...or god forbid after a playoff game and says how he wont ever forget how the eagles tried to slander him and how howie and chip are snakes ect...
i love the guy but you just gotta hope that either he gets hurt or rg3 melts down again....because this has a chance to reverberate around the league in a terrible terrible way for chip and the eagles
next year is going to be all about chips way verse the rest of the football world.....and chip better be right
Eagles have to draft a CB now in the first 3 to defend him? :paranoid
They'd probably have to draft a CB to defend me, so, sure.
Also, just to chime it, this unfolded poorly...no question about it. The most egregious thing was not managing the timing or the information well enough to get at least something for an undeniably talented player in his prime. Even if the Eagles don't think he has value, and even if things work out for the offense-- Jackson at the very least had the perception of value, which should have been enough to get something.
his value was so low that he go the highest contract of any free agent wr this offseason
in fact how many players got more guaranteed money this FA season?
three?
Quote from: ice grillin you on April 02, 2014, 09:36:17 AM
his value was so low that he go the highest contract of any free agent wr this offseason
in fact how many players got more guaranteed money this FA season?
three?
The best f/a receiver on the market was Decker and he's maybe top 30 where as Desean is top 10. Weak ass WR free agents this offseason. Plus the draft is stacked with WR so why pay a big money deal to a WR?
The Skins gave Albert Haynesworth $30 million guaranteed and $100 million overall. Do you think Desean went to Wash for any other reason than he knew Danny was going to cake him off? If he really gives a shtein about winning he goes to the Niners. Not hating on the guy because I love his talent but lets be real.
doesnt matter why he went...fact is he had great value and the eagles got ZERO for him
if the eagles didnt let it out that a. they wanted him gone and b. how bad of a person he was they could have quietly gotten something for him after the season ended and before free agency started...would it have matched his value?..never...but it would have been something.....they couldtn have possibly handeled this any worse from start to finish
also the skins didnt overpay him at all....this isnt close to a hayneworth situation...they gave moderate money to a top player in his prime
Agreed. The fact that Howie couldn't get shtein for him speaks volumes about the way this was handled.
If they wanted to move on from him then you know they knew at the end of the season, after the exit meetings (that DJ skipped) at the very least. So then they should have made the effort to move him then. Yes trades could not be made until the beginning of the league year but they could have had something lined up. But nope...not our illustrious fantasy football GM. He waits until the market has calmed down and money is spent by other teams and he gets ZERO for a 27yr old receiver who stretches the field like no other and is coming off a 80/1300/10 season.
AND to make it worse they timed the release only minutes after that horseshtein gang story comes out thus creating the perception that they cut him because of that.
How would we know otherwise if it isn't true? They have not spoke about it. And the rest of the league is laughing at the Eagles right now and players/agents see how this was handled and it doesn't set well with them.
An all around clusterfarg created unnecessarily by two guys trying to prove a goddamn point and be the smartest jerks in the room.
Quote from: ice grillin you on April 02, 2014, 10:07:54 AM
doesnt matter why he went...fact is he had great value and the eagles got ZERO for him
if the eagles didnt let it out that a. they wanted him gone and b. how bad of a person he was they could have quietly gotten something for him after the season ended and before free agency started...would it have matched his value?..never...but it would have been something.....they couldtn have possibly handeled this any worse from start to finish
also the skins didnt overpay him at all....this isnt close to a hayneworth situation...they gave moderate money to a top player in his prime
Percy Always hurt Harvin was traded for a 1st and a 7th. The eagles couldn't manage a 7th rounder. They decided to try and recreate the Cris Carter scenario where "We're letting him go because he needs to better himself". Idiots
At this point I don't even know who the 3rd WR is since Avant is gone too. Maehl? farg
Quote from: Seabiscuit36 on April 02, 2014, 10:55:17 AM
Quote from: ice grillin you on April 02, 2014, 10:07:54 AM
doesnt matter why he went...fact is he had great value and the eagles got ZERO for him
if the eagles didnt let it out that a. they wanted him gone and b. how bad of a person he was they could have quietly gotten something for him after the season ended and before free agency started...would it have matched his value?..never...but it would have been something.....they couldtn have possibly handeled this any worse from start to finish
also the skins didnt overpay him at all....this isnt close to a hayneworth situation...they gave moderate money to a top player in his prime
Percy Always hurt Harvin was traded for a 1st and a 7th. The eagles couldn't manage a 7th rounder. They decided to try and recreate the Cris Carter scenario where "We're letting him go because he needs to better himself". Idiots
and once you let the ship sail and have no recourse to obtain anything for him how do you just cut him?
even if it means saving face and having a sit down to work things out...god forbid maybe apologize...you have to bring him back instead of an outright release...they went from 3 wins to 10 wins and the playoffs with his horrible presence on the team...how bad of a person could he have been?....the holier than thou aspect of this that is coming from the eagles is crazy and not a good look at all
Quote from: Dillen on April 02, 2014, 11:07:08 AM
At this point I don't even know who the 3rd WR is since Avant is gone too. Maehl? farg
probably damaris soon to be replaced by a draft pick
(http://i.imgur.com/JOlhhXe.gif)
dillen mentioning the eagles depth chart got me thinking about wash now
which group would you take?
foles
mack
kkk
ertz
rg3
pimp
garcon
reed
The one with the top 5 o line
i think that all really means is that Kelly/Howie/Lurie plan on two drafts to put the team "together". they aren't worried about 2014 and by proxy of silence neither should fans. plus with ass's-in-seats guaranteed for this team, the money flows regardless. team still can claim "new guy" mulligan this year, but not 2015
letting pimp go says something about doubt on foles, too. I don't think kelly believes he has his QB yet. foles "success" last year may have even been annoying to his plans of getting "his" vision of QB.
foles - with no pimp and a year of film on him, real deal or sophomore slump? chip aint 100% sold and neither should fans just yet
mack - real knee or rubber band ligaments and another year to really find out
kkk - lessee how he does with double team, double time
ertz - who?
sprouls - gas in tank or another end-game meh?
That depends entirely on which variation of RG3 we're talking about.
Just to throw some gasoline on this fire, I would like to point out that this almost certainly means another year of ignoring the defense in the draft and grabbing offensive toys for Chip to play with. Do not like.
I'm not sure how letting Jackson go has any impact on feelings about Foles. You could make the exact opposite argument -- that letting go of Jackson puts trust that Foles will run the offense will in this system even without Jackson.
i suspect it has more to do with him believing in his system than it does believing in foles....because even if you had a proven qb why would you take away his biggest weapon...much less take it away from a guy who have never even played a full year in the league
unless you thought you could plug in anyone in any slot and still have a great offense
Quote from: ice grillin you on April 02, 2014, 01:30:05 PM
i suspect it has more to do with him believing in his system than it does believing in foles....because even if you had a proven qb why would you take away his biggest weapon...much less take it away from a guy who have never even played a full year in the league
unless you thought you could plug in anyone in any slot and still have a great offense
I agree with that completely. I was just saying I don't think letting Jackson go speaks to a lack of confidence in Foles.
isnt that exactly what andy thought?
And unless Foles is miles ahead of mcnabb, the 2002-2005 eagles - especially D, were better teams. So chips beliefs aside, haven't we seen this movie before? If they really thought they could go real deep or SB in 2014, why get rid of pimp? because hes annoying? They forget what TO did or just fixate on the implosion? (which team mis-managed, too)
in 2004 andy/ownership finally realized "system" cant overcome lack of talent. Much to my surprise 2013 was miles ahead of expectations. This just seems to dash that momentum. I just don't see how team isn't worse today then it was in January.
there's something to be said about the fact that chip is going to get the players he wants no matter how good the guy on the current roster is even if it means blowing things out of proportion to get rid of them. if foles has his sophomore slump or some of his bad passes are actually picked off this year i don't think he gets paid.
the eagles could have contended this year if they had a strong draft for the defense where it was originally needed. now they have a real possibility of not winning the division.
remember cooper would have been gone in heartbeat if maclin hadn't gone down. New he gets caked. Crazy except cooper kept up the company line. I still think pimp and foles are also not chip guys and they were both thought good as gone. foles now gets a season to do it cause vick wasnt any transition plan at all - even chip saw that later (plus not a big QB draft this year). foles "success" was not planned for, and though perhaps counterintuitive, id still maintain some annoyance to chips 3 season plan to rip and replant.
If foles cant fit "chips system" which he still doesn't seem to in some key areas (and now after losing his most potent weapon), then he's next on list next offseason. As a QB how else would you take your coach trashing your best target and leaving you with a lot less than you had before? As a QB i don't think that's make me feel as valued either. And like a macnabb a good soldier not saying a peep so he doesn't get kicked to curb. Later when foles takes one in the gut after a season of no one to throw to, he'll be surprised the same way mcnabb was when packed off to skins after being company man for all those years...
i dunno maybe maclin/sprouls/cooper/ertz will be all pros....
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BkO0LiYCIAAqO_j.jpg)
at this point nobody should be surprised with this FO and their track record. in fact i see this as a big deterrence to future FA's.
and cooper was only worth resigning (if you could say that) with desean pulling the coverage and stretching the field. if buckhalte... i mean maclin regains his form he might sniff top 15-20 but not all pro.
farging unbelievable.
that a dog is willing to lie on a taterskin blanket
so basically the world is over because a dysfunctional team coached by someone's brother and a run by a walking, talking, douching Napoleonic complex signed a good player?
well i guess thats it. super bowl to washington, aids to philly.
Quote from: Zanshin on April 02, 2014, 09:21:52 AM
They'd probably have to draft a CB to defend me, so, sure.
:-D
That pic of Jackson in taterskins gear: :'(
I feel that the primary reason the Eagles couldn't get shtein for Jackson was that no other GM in the league really respects Howie.
Quote from: hbionic on April 02, 2014, 03:10:13 PM
I feel that the primary reason the Eagles couldn't get shtein for Jackson was that no other GM in the league really respects Howie.
what's to respect. their morons.
This shtein is pure gold.
Scratch that... Pure platinum.
Somewhere deep in the bowels of the Linc, off in a conference room sit Howie, Chip and Jeffy....
Howie: "well, that worked out just super, didn't it?
Chipper: "shut up Howie"
Howie: "me shut-up?!? it was all your idea mr. smart guy just because he wasn't all joe college and bonfire rallies and shtein"
Chip: "listen you little shteinhead, i didn't tell you to use the gang-banger card, that was your little strategy beaut, wasn't it, huh?"
Jeffy: "boys, boys, it'll all blow over...nobody's sending in their season tix and we just got 7 million to add to my cap crown! hee hee!"
Chipper "Jeff - about that cap mone...."
Jeffy: (cutting him off) "...later Chipper. I wanna talk about something really important - my gal and Cristina got together and I really have to agree that adding more vera-wang designer windmills to the Linc will really put us over the top". And to get fan buy-in we'll paint em kelly green!! Wait - here's the best part - get it, - green windmills!?! Ohhh that white house invite is as good as in my pocket right now!!"
Howie & chip: (in unison) "Brilliant boss!"
no
QuoteDeSean Jackson on # he will wear in WASH: "Maybe RGIII will wear No. 3 and I'll try to get in 10. We'll see how it goes though. Never know."
See....already starting problems with his teammates. Dump him!
Also here's more info (http://www.unknownsoldiersblog.com/2012/01/marines-best-friend.html) on that pic w/ the soldiers and dog
lol
1. the pic of him in taterskin gear is disgusting
2. what does that dog and marine pic have to do with him?
3. apparently the Philly reporters were not allowed to ask questions on his conference call today
4. the Skins PR cut off the call when one of the DC medias asked why he was released
Quote from: LBIggle on April 02, 2014, 02:42:16 PM
in fact i see this as a big deterrence to future FA's.
this is what i was referring to earlier when i said this could reverberate around the league in its worse case scenario...eagles have to finish ahead of the skins next year...or the embarrassment will be unbearable
skins eagles in philly last game of the regular season?
Quote from: ice grillin you on April 02, 2014, 05:34:50 PM
Quote from: LBIggle on April 02, 2014, 02:42:16 PM
in fact i see this as a big deterrence to future FA's.
this is what i was referring to earlier when i said this could reverberate around the league in its worse case scenario...eagles have to finish ahead of the skins next year...or the embarrassment will be unbearable
You're hoping that happens no matter what anyway, amirite?
Quote from: ice grillin you on April 02, 2014, 10:07:54 AM
doesnt matter why he went...fact is he had great value and the eagles got ZERO for him
if the eagles didnt let it out that a. they wanted him gone and b. how bad of a person he was they could have quietly gotten something for him after the season ended and before free agency started...would it have matched his value?..never...but it would have been something.....they couldtn have possibly handeled this any worse from start to finish
also the skins didnt overpay him at all....this isnt close to a hayneworth situation...they gave moderate money to a top player in his prime
I don't even know if this was in response to my post (you've been rambling a lot lately) but no where did I say I agreed with the front office or that they should have just released him outright. They played this one poorly.
Quote from: ice grillin you on April 02, 2014, 05:34:50 PM
Quote from: LBIggle on April 02, 2014, 02:42:16 PM
in fact i see this as a big deterrence to future FA's.
this is what i was referring to earlier when i said this could reverberate around the league in its worse case scenario...eagles have to finish ahead of the skins next year...or the embarrassment will be unbearable
the world is coming to an end!! its all over unless they win!
this is another one of your doomsday theories...but im sure its right this time
im not predicting it...all im saying is they better finish ahead of the skins or they are going to be more of laughing stock than they are now and they are gonna look real distasteful to players around the league
when you do something this galacticly stupid on paper you better be right....gonna be an amazing thing to follow
The way some of you guys NEVER stop bitching about anything the team does I really can't help but wonder why some of you are still Eagles fans. You do realize it's not against the law to follow another team, right? Put down your skirts and pull on some big boy pants. It'll be ok... really.
everything always ends up ok with the eagles...all their lombardi trophys are proof of this.....idiots
No one has ever said that.
Richard Sherman penned a takedown piece on the Eagles. And this very well could resonate within the player community.
The Eagles failed miserably throughout this entire situation.
As if this isn't enough proof look at Mathis! Wants a raise ala Jackson and what is Howie's response?? Go find a team to take you.
Quote from: ice grillin you on April 02, 2014, 06:23:08 PM
im not predicting it...all im saying is they better finish ahead of the skins or they are going to be more of laughing stock than they are now and they are gonna look real distasteful to players around the league
when you do something this galacticly stupid on paper you better be right....gonna be an amazing thing to follow
yes because all the horrible things snyder has done has destroyed the racists ability to sign players
money always talks. if the eagles pay someone enough they will sign with this team. nobody wants to go to buffalo but yet they still sign free agents all the time. OHMIGOD
So all is lost now right ?
Quote from: MDS on April 02, 2014, 07:21:22 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on April 02, 2014, 06:23:08 PM
im not predicting it...all im saying is they better finish ahead of the skins or they are going to be more of laughing stock than they are now and they are gonna look real distasteful to players around the league
when you do something this galacticly stupid on paper you better be right....gonna be an amazing thing to follow
yes because all the horrible things snyder has done has destroyed the racists ability to sign players
worst analogy ever comparing snyder treating his players like gold by overpaying them and flying them on private jets to the eagles kicking a guy to the curb while letting disgraceful gang banging rumors hang over him...washingtons problem has been signing the wrong players but they are one of the first teams that are getting looked at as far as a destination spot and now they are going to look even more favorable by ignoring the eagle smear campagin and signing pimp
homer are clueless
money always talks except when you have the track record the eagles FO does. no one is saying it's the end of the world.. it's a football team that none of us plays for. but no one can deny this set the eagles back while also making a division rival better. they had a chance to contend this year. now who knows.
Quote from: smeags on April 02, 2014, 07:42:49 PM
So all is lost now right ?
not all.....just the eagles biggest offensive weapon to a division rival for nothing in return
Washington is an ideal destination because players know Danny will cake them off and pay a higher signing bonus because he's irresponsible with the way he runs the franchise. See my Haynesworth post from earlier. There's a reason De$ean chose them first, it had nothing to do with anything other than getting the highest signing bonus he could. Good for him. He wanted money, he got it. It'll be gone by the time he's 35 but he's gonna love the shtein out of it for the next 8 years.
Heck, even Art admitted as much in his Cap Hell article.
This is freaking T.O. all over again.
My only question is are we going to burn Pimp's jersey on the fence at C6 or what?!?
Because I'm IN on that.
This is not the T.O. Situation by a long shot.
Not even close.
Quote from: LBIggle on April 02, 2014, 07:49:25 PM
it's a football team that none of us plays for. but no one can deny this set the eagles back while also making a division rival better.
Agree. I was irked they didn't/couldn't get anything for pimp before dumping his ass on the curb but I got over it in about 5 minutes. I was more shocked than anything else. Now... who gives a farg. Constantly bitching about it won't change reality.
Quote from: LBIggle on April 02, 2014, 07:49:25 PM
they had a chance to contend this year.
Disagree. Unless they picked up a slew of Defensive studs in the draft they're still way too weak on D to shut down anyone good in the playoffs.
Quote from: ice grillin you on April 02, 2014, 07:49:34 PM
Quote from: smeags on April 02, 2014, 07:42:49 PM
So all is lost now right ?
not all.....just the eagles biggest offensive weapon to a division rival for nothing in return
Even with something in return, the reasons would have been the same which were stupid. I'm pretty sure Jackson is not going to have any problems the rest of his career. Worst thing he did was demand more money.
Now that's not to say I don't think they'll make the playoffs. I still they've got a good shot. But making the playoffs and contending for a Super Bowl are two different things. I don't think this team is good enough, even with the draft, to make a Super Bowl run this year. Just don't see it.
Quote from: TexasEagle on April 02, 2014, 08:16:01 PM
Quote from: LBIggle on April 02, 2014, 07:49:25 PM
it's a football team that none of us plays for. but no one can deny this set the eagles back while also making a division rival better.
Agree. I was irked they didn't/couldn't get anything for pimp before dumping his ass on the curb but I got over it in about 5 minutes. I was more shocked than anything else. Now... who gives a farg. Constantly bitching about it won't change reality.
Quote from: LBIggle on April 02, 2014, 07:49:25 PM
they had a chance to contend this year.
Disagree. Unless they picked up a slew of Defensive studs in the draft they're still way too weak on D to shut down anyone good in the playoffs.
that was the main gripe.. letting him walk and having him picked up by a division rival that most recently won the divison before the eagles did this past year. but at this point i think not having any sort of explanation is the most frustrating thing.
if they make the playoffs anything could happen, especially if they get the favorable match ups.
Quote from: hbionic on April 02, 2014, 08:15:24 PM
This is not the T.O. Situation by a long shot.
Not even close.
Yes it is. We're going to get together at a tailgate, get shteinfaced, eat a lot of charred meats, and burn the farg out of a jersey.
It's exactly the same thing, damn it.
Wanna go?
Shouldn't burn the jersey. Get a brooks brothers button down and a pair of loafers and light them up along with a picture of Howie. He's the bad guy here.
And a visor and a duck in honor of Chip.
Then you can eat the duck for pregame meal. Along with some crack juice!
Quote"[Seeing how taterskins fans are], them fans are kind of crazy. I mean, Philadelphia is a little crazy, too. But here, I feel them embracing me a little more."
I'm so happy the Eagles cut him.
i hope he ends up in the mass shootings thread. or the bloods get him. or the crips. or cooper. whoever.
:-D :-D
Quote from: Rome on April 02, 2014, 08:48:21 PM
Quote from: hbionic on April 02, 2014, 08:15:24 PM
This is not the T.O. Situation by a long shot.
Not even close.
Yes it is. We're going to get together at a tailgate, get shteinfaced, eat a lot of charred meats, and burn the farg out of a jersey.
say wha?....non homers are pissed at the front office not the player
you are correct tho in that this does mirror the TO situation...BUT FOR WASH....remember when the city exploded upon hearing the TO news...remember lehigh 04'...thats DC right now
Quote from: LBIggle on April 02, 2014, 08:28:03 PM
Quote from: TexasEagle on April 02, 2014, 08:16:01 PM
Quote from: LBIggle on April 02, 2014, 07:49:25 PM
it's a football team that none of us plays for. but no one can deny this set the eagles back while also making a division rival better.
Agree. I was irked they didn't/couldn't get anything for pimp before dumping his ass on the curb but I got over it in about 5 minutes. I was more shocked than anything else. Now... who gives a farg. Constantly bitching about it won't change reality.
Quote from: LBIggle on April 02, 2014, 07:49:25 PM
they had a chance to contend this year.
Disagree. Unless they picked up a slew of Defensive studs in the draft they're still way too weak on D to shut down anyone good in the playoffs.
that was the main gripe.. letting him walk and having him picked up by a division rival that most recently won the divison before the eagles did this past year. but at this point i think not having any sort of explanation is the most frustrating thing.
if they make the playoffs anything could happen, especially if they get the favorable match ups.
its amazing what people will forget when trying to defend the front office....like that the team made the playoffs last year...that foles is the future and will only be better this year....that chipper is a genius...that sproles was an amazing move....that when i predicted they would miss the playoffs even with pimp i was a complete moron...yet now in an effort to defend anything the team does everyone is like oh i dont think they werent going to make the playoffs anyway and they DEFINITELY werent making the superbowl even if they did make the playoffs
all of a sudden this is a long term program thats all about buidling a private school for well behaved boys not winning a superbowl and homers LOVE it
Still a little surprised no team mates had his back on being released. It may be a mini North Korea there but it didn't stop shady from going off on his women on twitter.
Maybe I missed it but did the Eagles FO even give a public "We would like to thank Desean.....blah blah
Quote from: BobbyT on April 03, 2014, 08:55:57 AM
Still a little surprised no team mates had his back on being released.
oh, didn't you hear? all the eagles' players are racists.
Quote from: BobbyT on April 03, 2014, 08:55:57 AM
Still a little surprised no team mates had his back on being released. It may be a mini North Korea there but it didn't stop shady from going off on his women on twitter.
Maybe I missed it but did the Eagles FO even give a public "We would like to thank Desean.....blah blah
they released a statement but it did not include any well wishes...something about after much consideration the eagles have decided to release desean jackson
and im not at all suprised no one is talking...the talking will happen if the offense isnt as good next year and wash passes the birds in the division....then the damn will break...for now the team is like many of the fans "in chip we trust"
should also add that the players are obviously inside this whole thing so they at least know why he was released even if they may not agree with it...so to them its a - it is what it is situation..or i dont agree with it but i understand it and im not suprised
a lot of consternation with the fans...or at least for me...is that the eagles havent uttered a word about what happend except to let the nj.com piece fester...how do you do something this major and not own up to it
How about Cris Carter tweeting out he feels for Djack, and that the eagles did the same thing to him when he was all sobered up. Funny how his story changed from what it's been for years.
As far as the players, I think you're right IGY. The team seems to have had a discussion or something about it, as they're towing the company line where I feel like in the past you'd have a few dissenters. All in all, I'm just pissed at how everything went down, the same as IGY. It was not handled well from the start, and something that I dont think Big Red would allow to happen.
the fo didn't think his on field production was worth his salary & diva attitude. what else is there to know? what could the fo say to make you feel better about dj getting cut?
Quote from: Seabiscuit36 on April 03, 2014, 09:24:21 AM
As far as the players, I think you're right IGY. The team seems to have had a discussion or something about it, as they're towing the company line where I feel like in the past you'd have a few dissenters. All in all, I'm just pissed at how everything went down, the same as IGY. It was not handled well from the start, and something that I dont think Big Red would allow to happen.
i think you said it the other day...andy would have said something...it wouldnt have been much and we would have wanted more but he would not have been a snake and used silence to defame someone...in fact he would have went out of his way to say how good of a kid desean is and he wishes him the best....even that pos banner would have released via unamed sources thru the media what exactly pimp did
again there may be a smoking gun but if there isnt the eagles have acted in a disgraceful manner thruout this whole thing...to the fans and to pimp
Quote from: hunt on April 03, 2014, 09:29:10 AM
the fo didn't think his on field production was worth his salary & diva attitude. what else is there to know? what could the fo say to make you feel better about dj getting cut?
Say just that. Say something. To not utter a word other than a 11 word statement last Friday at 1130am, you think that's acceptable?
Quote from: Seabiscuit36 on April 03, 2014, 09:36:03 AM
Quote from: hunt on April 03, 2014, 09:29:10 AM
the fo didn't think his on field production was worth his salary & diva attitude. what else is there to know? what could the fo say to make you feel better about dj getting cut?
Say just that. Say something. To not utter a word other than a 11 word statement last Friday at 1130am, you think that's acceptable?
i don't really care what they say...it's pr bullcrap anyway. and the eagles suck at pr. the gang article leak was just the latest example of that.
but i don't think they cut dj because they were trying to make the team worse.
Quote from: ice grillin you on April 03, 2014, 06:55:46 AM
its amazing what people will forget when trying to defend the front office....like that the team made the playoffs last year...that foles is the future and will only be better this year....that chipper is a genius...that sproles was an amazing move....that when i predicted they would miss the playoffs even with pimp i was a complete moron...yet now in an effort to defend anything the team does everyone is like oh i dont think they werent going to make the playoffs anyway and they DEFINITELY werent making the superbowl even if they did make the playoffs
::)
I wasn't referring to anyone specifically with my post but now I just think you like being a miserable bastich for no reason.
And no, I didn't think they'd make the Super Bowl last year (which I said before they even started the season) and no I don't think they'll make the Super Bowl this year, either. I'm a realist and this team has too many farging holes to be elite. Do I want them to win the Super Bowl, of course. Do I think it'll happen this year? farg no, but I'll be pleasantly surprised if it happens. Am I going to rant and rave and whine about it? No. I have better ways to waste my free time than that.
Happy misery to you, guy, you seem to love it.
BTW, NO ONE thought they were making the playoffs last year. They were supposed to be last in the East because first year head coach and NO fargING DEFENSE to speak of. They overachieved by leaps and bounds but the defense was still horrid.
Quote from: hunt on April 03, 2014, 09:43:23 AM
Quote from: Seabiscuit36 on April 03, 2014, 09:36:03 AM
Quote from: hunt on April 03, 2014, 09:29:10 AM
the fo didn't think his on field production was worth his salary & diva attitude. what else is there to know? what could the fo say to make you feel better about dj getting cut?
Say just that. Say something. To not utter a word other than a 11 word statement last Friday at 1130am, you think that's acceptable?
i don't really care what they say...it's pr bullcrap anyway. and the eagles suck at pr. the gang article leak was just the latest example of that.
but i don't think they cut dj because they were trying to make the team worse.
I'm with Hunt. Say something to what end? Just to say "something"? What difference would it make? Those of you still upset would still be upset no matter what they said, so really, what's the point?
Quote from: TexasEagle on April 03, 2014, 09:49:41 AM
Happy misery to you, guy, you seem to love it.
and happy gold standard there is never anything to see here because everything will always be ok to you, chief, must be awesome to never care about anything at all
Quote from: Rome on April 02, 2014, 08:48:21 PM
Quote from: hbionic on April 02, 2014, 08:15:24 PM
This is not the T.O. Situation by a long shot.
Not even close.
Yes it is. We're going to get together at a tailgate, get shteinfaced, eat a lot of charred meats, and burn the farg out of a jersey.
It's exactly the same thing, damn it.
Wanna go?
i have the lighter fluid ready.
Quote from: hunt on April 03, 2014, 09:00:43 AM
Quote from: BobbyT on April 03, 2014, 08:55:57 AM
Still a little surprised no team mates had his back on being released.
oh, didn't you hear? all the eagles' players are racists.
especially trent cole, vick & maclin.
didnt see this posted yet.
http://www.sportspickle.com/2014/04/crips-release-desean-jackson-concern-affiliation-washington-taterskins-organization (http://www.sportspickle.com/2014/04/crips-release-desean-jackson-concern-affiliation-washington-taterskins-organization)
lol
Quote from: smeags on April 03, 2014, 10:27:50 AM
Quote from: Rome on April 02, 2014, 08:48:21 PM
Quote from: hbionic on April 02, 2014, 08:15:24 PM
This is not the T.O. Situation by a long shot.
Not even close.
Yes it is. We're going to get together at a tailgate, get shteinfaced, eat a lot of charred meats, and burn the farg out of a jersey.
It's exactly the same thing, damn it.
Wanna go?
i have the lighter fluid ready.
Hey look... Someone got the joke.
Looks like he'll wear #11
Quote from: Rome on April 03, 2014, 12:26:51 PM
Quote from: smeags on April 03, 2014, 10:27:50 AM
Quote from: Rome on April 02, 2014, 08:48:21 PM
Quote from: hbionic on April 02, 2014, 08:15:24 PM
This is not the T.O. Situation by a long shot.
Not even close.
Yes it is. We're going to get together at a tailgate, get shteinfaced, eat a lot of charred meats, and burn the farg out of a jersey.
It's exactly the same thing, damn it.
Wanna go?
i have the lighter fluid ready.
Hey look... Someone got the joke.
You suck at jokes.
ok here's another one -
a blonde, a brunette & a redhead get on an elevator and notice a white gooey substance on the floor ...
the brunette looks and says i think thats jizz.
the redhead bends down, touches it and says you're right it is.
the blonde bends down wipes it up and takes taste and says 'yeah but it's nobody that works at this office.
BAZINGA!
PS... Got her number?
Hey guys, I have internet again. What did I miss in the last thirty pages of this thread?
what are you, illeterate?
Quote from: General_Failure on April 03, 2014, 06:39:21 PM
Hey guys, I have internet again. What did I miss in the last thirty pages of this thread?
Mainly weeping and gnashing of teeth.
Accusations of institutional racism on the Eagles' part, unhinged rants against everyone connected with the Eagles including the guy who cleans the bathrooms at the NovaCare, threats of abandoning the team by Chuggie (although which team he really didn't specify) and a really old but funny joke by Sean.
Oh, and Rusty showed up to brighten our day briefly. Because you know, his miserable attitude is STILL refreshing.
Why do the Eagles hate us so much. We've been loyal. And well behaved for the most part lately. So, why do they hate us?
Jackson's eagles cap number - $6.25m
Jackson's taterskins cap number $4.25m
Nice.
Of all the things to give a shtein about right now, is the salary cap really one of them? They somehow still have $20 mil to sign all the nobody they're going to sign.
Quote from: General_Failure on April 03, 2014, 06:39:21 PM
Hey guys, I have internet again. What did I miss in the last thirty pages of this thread?
The usual riveting conversation. "The Eagles suck", "Pimp sucks", "Howie sucks", "Chip sucks", "You suck", "I suck". Oh, and one funny joke about a blonde and spewy.
QuoteDeSean Jackson abruptly backed out of an interview on the Dan Patrick Show this morning, but Jackson does plan to get his side of everything that has transpired in the last week to the public.
Jackson has instead taped an interview with Stephen A. Smith of ESPN, according to Jeff McLane of the Philadelphia Inquirer.
A Jackson spokesperson told McLane that the interview "will clear up everything" and will air Friday.
popcorn?
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on April 03, 2014, 09:48:03 PM
Jackson's eagles cap number - $6.25m
Jackson's taterskins cap number $4.25m
Nice.
Trying to get us back for Trotter
and McNabb
Quote from: Don Ho on April 04, 2014, 03:09:42 AM
Pimp sucks
No one could possibly be this dumb, come on.
can't wait to hear desean clear the air and show the world how he was oppressed & explain in detail the horrible torture it was to be cut (for no reason of course) and then being forced to go through the agony of signing a new deal with $16mil guaranteed.
Quote from: smeags on April 04, 2014, 10:12:05 AM
can't wait to hear desean clear the air and show the world how he was oppressed & explain in detail the horrible torture it was to be cut (for no reason of course) and then being forced to go through the agony of signing a new deal with $16mil guaranteed.
add in screamin a's overuse of multi-syllabic words & it should be more than awesome.
Quote from: hunt on April 04, 2014, 10:22:48 AM
Quote from: smeags on April 04, 2014, 10:12:05 AM
can't wait to hear desean clear the air and show the world how he was oppressed & explain in detail the horrible torture it was to be cut (for no reason of course) and then being forced to go through the agony of signing a new deal with $16mil guaranteed.
add in screamin a's overuse of multi-syllabic words & it should be more than awesome.
it will be tv awesomeness on the level of the wire.
I would like it if he was able to work Slava Medvedenko's name into it.
http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/10721431/eagles-had-other-issues-desean-jackson (http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/10721431/eagles-had-other-issues-desean-jackson)
Quote from: smeags on April 04, 2014, 10:45:13 AM
Quote from: hunt on April 04, 2014, 10:22:48 AM
Quote from: smeags on April 04, 2014, 10:12:05 AM
can't wait to hear desean clear the air and show the world how he was oppressed & explain in detail the horrible torture it was to be cut (for no reason of course) and then being forced to go through the agony of signing a new deal with $16mil guaranteed.
add in screamin a's overuse of multi-syllabic words & it should be more than awesome.
it will be tv awesomeness on the level of the wire.
Blasphemer!! Sinner. Sinner!
Thou shalt say 20 Hail Wire's and repent.
Quote from: TexasEagle on April 04, 2014, 12:23:02 PM
Quote
it will be tv awesomeness on the level of the wire.
Blasphemer!! Sinner. Sinner!
Thou shalt say 20 Hail Wire's and repent.
O:)
http://philadelphia.cbslocal.com/2014/04/04/sources-desean-jackson-was-a-problem-for-kelly-eagles-in-locker-room/ (http://philadelphia.cbslocal.com/2014/04/04/sources-desean-jackson-was-a-problem-for-kelly-eagles-in-locker-room/)
This makes the most sense instead of gang or $
Quote from: BobbyT on April 04, 2014, 01:13:15 PM
http://philadelphia.cbslocal.com/2014/04/04/sources-desean-jackson-was-a-problem-for-kelly-eagles-in-locker-room/ (http://philadelphia.cbslocal.com/2014/04/04/sources-desean-jackson-was-a-problem-for-kelly-eagles-in-locker-room/)
This makes the most sense instead of gang or $
cant be ... that would mean the lemmings screaming and crying about racism and a nazi front office just looking to save a dime were wrong.
you know those unnamed sources were whities!
Quote from: hunt on April 04, 2014, 01:21:16 PM
you know those unnamed sources were whities!
obviously cooper is behind the whole thing.
If for nothing else, the article should be praised for trying to resurrect the "Big Balls Chip" nickname.
Quote from: BobbyT on April 04, 2014, 01:13:15 PM
http://philadelphia.cbslocal.com/2014/04/04/sources-desean-jackson-was-a-problem-for-kelly-eagles-in-locker-room/ (http://philadelphia.cbslocal.com/2014/04/04/sources-desean-jackson-was-a-problem-for-kelly-eagles-in-locker-room/)
This makes the most sense instead of gang or $
the hit piece is here!! a bunch of anonymous sources trash pimp behind the cover of not having their name next to it. you can definitely take the facts to the house.
Quote from: QB Eagles on April 04, 2014, 01:29:39 PM
If for nothing else, the article should be praised for trying to resurrect the "Big Balls Chip" nickname.
Big D
ick Chip
sounds rolls off the tongue would be better. And is already filtered for some reason. Who knows why. Not me, that's who.
Quote from: MDS on April 04, 2014, 01:54:43 PM
Quote from: BobbyT on April 04, 2014, 01:13:15 PM
http://philadelphia.cbslocal.com/2014/04/04/sources-desean-jackson-was-a-problem-for-kelly-eagles-in-locker-room/ (http://philadelphia.cbslocal.com/2014/04/04/sources-desean-jackson-was-a-problem-for-kelly-eagles-in-locker-room/)
This makes the most sense instead of gang or $
the hit piece is here!! a bunch of anonymous sources trash pimp behind the cover of not having their name next to it. you can definitely take the facts to the house.
it was a matter time......now its gonna be pimp vs eagle unnamed sources for the next couple weeks
fortunately it will all get worked out on the field in six months
The unnamed sources drive me nuts. The article seems the most logical for those looking for Why - but who knows?
Not so sure Maclin would say"me or him" and then only sign a 1 year?
the hit piece brings up a bunch of questions....first off why did joseph santoloquoito get it and not a real writer. is this another case of the beat guys sleeping or did the eagles selectively leak this to an outside source in order to downplay the fact that they were the ones that leaked it?
also every quote sounded the same and talked in the same way even though they were identified as different people.
as it is with these pieces, some of the stuff is true, some is halftruths and some is downright inaccurate.
Quote from: MDS on April 04, 2014, 02:04:43 PM
did the eagles selectively leak this to an outside source in order to downplay the fake that they were the ones that leaked it?
this
close but not jeff mclane close
lmao
So what happens if it turns out that the story is 100% accurate?
Then we blast them for building a leaderless team that can't keep one 160lb, 5'10 prima donna in line. Wait, why aren't we doing that anyway?
Quote from: Rome on April 04, 2014, 03:04:06 PM
So what happens if it turns out that the story is 100% accurate?
it wont
not 1 person was willing to put their name behind that. magically of a sudden all of them are going to come out and say IT WAS ME?
reporters citing unnamed sources vs internet dweebs with conspiracy theories
Meanwhile, Jackson has to buy an even larger coffee table to hold all his new money.
true but that will get stolen too.
Quote"The fact is, [Jackson] was a 'me-guy' with an attitude problem and [Maclin] is the complete opposite, a team guy, a great character guy you go to war with," said one source. "Funny how [Jackson] has this anti-bully thing and he thought he could push [Kelly] around; he found out otherwise. His being cut had nothing to do with the gang stuff. The team knew it. Everyone knew he had 'ties.' Those were his guys. That's okay. What put him out was his selfishness. He can try and spin it all he wants how he's 'a team player.' He's not. I'll put it this way, when it came out last Friday that [Jackson] was released, more than a few guys were happy it happened. They said 'good riddance.' He had no real connection with anyone.
"Yes, you can say he was the type that could catch three TDs in a loss—everyone would be down, but you had the impression he was happy, because he got his. It was all about him. A lot of guys thought that way about him. [Kelly] came in here with a plan to get this thing right, and the one major [obstacle] standing in his way was [Jackson]. If we were going to move forward as a team, he had to go. Think about it—did anyone come right out and back him publicly? Not one."
--Howie Roseman
all lies. he was the ideal teammate right ? this is just the eagles pr machine trying to shtein on a innocent player's rep right ?
Nah he probably was difficult at times. The issue is that many players exhibit those diva type issues. Good coaches and management can handle that and funnel it away from team distractions.
I keep going back to the Evan Mathis thing. If that hadn't come out that he asked for a raise and Howie's response was "go find another team" then mayyyyyybe I put more credence towards Jackson being deservedly cut.
But that shows me that they aren't even trying. Make any fuss? Bye.
so if a player is just too much of dickhead its the team's fault ?
Quote from: smeags on April 04, 2014, 04:11:00 PM
so if a player is just too much of dickhead its the team's fault ?
gold standard
If these guys want to have every player in line...they should become military officers. Granted, insubordination is nothing to put up with, but everything else should be easy to deal with. If he's that bad in the locker room, suspend him. You talk shtein? suspend him for a game without pay. Send a message that way. Don't use all this other stuff as an excuse to hide the fact that you no longer wanted to pay for him.
I don't believe the locker room attitude was a problem. I think it is evident that the Eagles sent him off for rocking the boat. Is it a coincidence that now no player will speak out one way or another? It's weird to me no one has said anything. I'm sure that has come from above.
Unless the Eagles are successful on the field, this situation might drive home that the Philadelphia Eagles is not a place you really want to play in.
If the story is true they did the right thing.
Good order and discipline is essential to any enterprise, but especially a pro football team.
If it's not then the Eagles are foolish. Nothing more nothing less.
so i guess in sum, we are in the early-andy "george-hegamin-on-the-sled" phase of the coaching cycle. later in spin cycle when it's his guy, then its on to the late-andy allowable-behavior incrementalism allowable under "passion" and "swagger"....you know...chest bumps on the sideline n shtein
rinse and repeat
Quote from: Rome on April 04, 2014, 04:18:45 PM
Good order and discipline is essential to any enterprise, but especially a pro football team.
except the seahawks the last couple of years who had multiple steroid and drug abusers and a locker room that was pretty much known to be the wild west
cowboys dynasty was all choir boys too
http://m.espn.go.com/nfl/story?storyId=10721431
Whitlock ain't a Pimp fan or a Sherman one for that matter.
Wow.
This dude isn't an Eagle anymore. If I had mod duties, I'd merge this circlejerk with the taterskins thread. Well, first I'd ban some of you. After that.
id vote for the "self-inflicted CTE" thread
Power tripping nazi douche.
I'm at peace with the release. It's unfortunate things couldn't have worked out. What happened, happened. Right or wrong, we have to hope this works out for the best. Eagles FO are always going to be a bunch of funholes, but I hope this team doesn't regress. They have a bright future.
Time to move on for me. Time to get my McCoy Jersey.
Quote from: Rome on April 04, 2014, 04:59:43 PM
Power tripping nazi douche.
What the farg did I do?
Quote from: hbionic on April 04, 2014, 05:08:47 PM
Time to move on for me. Time to get my McCoy Jersey.
Player jerseys are just a bad investment. I mean, why? I have a jersey with my name on it, because if I do something to embarrass myself, so be it. I don't want to represent a player. Maybe a retired player, or one you REALLY identify with, maybe. Too many of them are douchbags, and even the "good" ones you can't be sure how long they'll stick.
I've had player jerseys before, but they've just lost their allure. If I had to get one now, I'd still probably only get a Dawkins jersey, or something like that.
He's a pro-bowl receiver in his prime coming off his best season, and he's cut. Let go. If he was that big a problem for the team you would think he'd have been punished at some point. Fined or suspended and it'd be public knowledge. He never trashed his qb/teammates or coaches. Never said anything detrimental towards the team publicly that I remember except maybe about his contract. As it looks now he was let go and the Eagles get nothing. All this speculation is bullshtein. He was one hell of a player and now he's with the motherfarging taterskins and will come back to burn the Eagles asses twice a year for who knows how long. With RGIII's arm he'll torch the clusterfarg that is the Eagles secondary. I can't wait to see the look on Kelley's farging face when that shtein goes down.
Quote from: hbionic on April 04, 2014, 04:15:55 PMIt's weird to me no one has said anything. I'm sure that has come from above.
It's weird that no one on the team has openly trashed Jackson, or openly criticized his own team? Huh? How is that weird in the slightest? Typically when someone gets fired from my business, they don't want me running around talking about the incident, pro or con. The company wants to do the speaking about those kinds of things.
It's pretty obvious that Kelce and Maclin didn't like Jackson, by the way. Expecting people to be openly talking to the media against the obvious wishes of the Eagles and their coach is expecting people to decide to be as professional as the guy who got cut.
QuoteJKelce
Just so everyone knows, none of these quotes are from me. You'll never see me hide behind the title "Unnamed source".
Quote from: Eagaholic on April 04, 2014, 08:08:29 AM
QuoteDeSean Jackson abruptly backed out of an interview on the Dan Patrick Show this morning, but Jackson does plan to get his side of everything that has transpired in the last week to the public.
Jackson has instead taped an interview with Stephen A. Smith of ESPN, according to Jeff McLane of the Philadelphia Inquirer.
A Jackson spokesperson told McLane that the interview "will clear up everything" and will air Friday.
popcorn?
Up next on Sportscenter.
Do people still watch SportsCenter?
They're already put up quotes: http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/10729842/desean-jackson-washington-taterskins-says-not-gang-member
Quote from: hbionic on April 04, 2014, 04:15:55 PM
If these guys want to have every player in line...they should become military officers. Granted, insubordination is nothing to put up with, but everything else should be easy to deal with. If he's that bad in the locker room, suspend him. You talk shtein? suspend him for a game without pay. Send a message that way.
Isn't that exactly what Andy Reid did a couple years ago? Or am I remembering that time he got suspended/benched wrong?
Quote from: General_Failure on April 04, 2014, 06:03:28 PM
Do people still watch SportsCenter?
What else am I going to watch at 6pm until the actual sports games start? The local news? I'd rather gouge out my eyeballs with a dull spoon.
Quote from: QB Eagles on April 04, 2014, 05:44:26 PM
Quote from: hbionic on April 04, 2014, 04:15:55 PMIt's weird to me no one has said anything. I'm sure that has come from above.
It's weird that no one on the team has openly trashed Jackson, or openly criticized his own team? Huh? How is that weird in the slightest? Typically when someone gets fired from my business, they don't want me running around talking about the incident, pro or con. The company wants to do the speaking about those kinds of things.
Agreed. It's just that you see players comment on less important shtein. I'm not talking about trashing him either. Just the, "Hey, we're going to miss Desean" etc. bullshtein. But you're right. Business wise, it's not proper to comment on a firing. But it is human nature to have an opinion on your relationship with a co-worker. No one has said anything to that effect.
QuoteAsked if he hangs out with gang members, Jackson said, "Not if they're doing negative things."
um
He also says Chip told him he was being released during a phone call, and he waited to hear reasons why and never got them. "It's best for us and best for you moving forward."
He also says the hand gesture at Hall wasn't a gang sign, but he admitted to flashing signs as shoutouts to the people he knows back home (like those positive gang members he knows)
Quote from: TexasEagle on April 04, 2014, 06:10:56 PM
Quote from: General_Failure on April 04, 2014, 06:03:28 PM
Do people still watch SportsCenter?
What else am I going to watch at 6pm until the actual sports games start? The local news? I'd rather gouge out my eyeballs with a dull spoon.
Clean out the backlog on the dvr? Something slightly less obnoxious, like a video of babies with teething pain?
Screamin A is a clown
beat guys have made no mention of the pimp hit piece. it put into (fake) words what they've been saying but clearly they are shunning the eagles and refusing to play up the piece because they didnt get it spoonfed to them.
can something interesting happen with this team please...or in this city. when is the draft lotto?
Are you not entertained, MDS?
Yeah you know Bowen and Mosher are steamed that it was given to Santolowhoever
Quote from: General_Failure on April 04, 2014, 06:43:09 PM
Are you not entertained, MDS?
no im actually quite sick of this...its a stupid drama thats played out for months because pimp is a 4 year old and the eagles pr department is a stonewall of incompetence.
Quote from: MDS on April 04, 2014, 06:42:16 PM
beat guys have made no mention of the pimp hit piece. it put into (fake) words what they've been saying but clearly they are shunning the eagles and refusing to play up the piece because they didnt get it spoonfed to them.
can something interesting happen with this team please...or in this city. when is the draft lotto?
may 20th....i dont if words can describe how nervous I am going to be that day/night....holy farg I cant wait and I also never want it to come
Lol, Stephen A Smith trying over and over again desperately to bait DJ into going off but DeSean would have none of it. Low key, takes a pass on "Yes or No!" question volleyed at him. Basically saying farg you to Smith's would be antics. Smith reminded me of that reported that kept after that olympic skier. DJ comes off honest and won't play into circus. Won't trash Kelly which makes it seem all the more like it was Chip's big ego more than his.
Quote from: Eagaholic on April 04, 2014, 06:49:04 PM
Won't trash Kelly which makes it seem all the more like it was Chip's big ego more than his.
gee ya think?
he thinks hes still in college...cept instead of suspensions hes just releasing guys
That would proabably help explain why Jackson thought everything was cool after his meeting with Chip.
Jackson is clearly blameless in all this. He's an outstanding citizen and an ultra-productive player.
This is nothing more than a huge ego-trip by Kelly. And he's actually the Devil. Not a Devil. THE DEVIL. Like Joe Banner only worse.
This isn't all on Chipper. If Howie wasn't also terrible at his job they could have gotten a useless draft pick out of all this.
Quote from: Rome on April 04, 2014, 07:05:41 PM
Jackson is clearly blameless in all this. He's an outstanding citizen and an ultra-productive player.
This is nothing more than a huge ego-trip by Kelly. And he's actually the Devil. Not a Devil. THE DEVIL. Like Joe Banner only worse.
hes not the devil....he has the potential to be a HOF coach I think....but hes still new at this nfl thing and was over his head in this scenario....its a learning curve and as much as you homers want everything to be rose petals with the team not everything is going to go smoothly with a first time coach....shtein tho at least he came in and won right away....he could be marty morningwheg....
but you don't get rid of an in their prime all pro level player to a division rival for nothing in return...especially when its a wr and you are an offensive genius...buck up and make it work master of men
Quote from: smeags on April 04, 2014, 03:43:18 PM
all lies. he was the ideal teammate right ? this is just the eagles pr machine trying to shtein on a innocent player's rep right ?
Quote from: Rome on April 04, 2014, 07:05:41 PM
Jackson is clearly blameless in all this. He's an outstanding citizen and an ultra-productive player.
This is nothing more than a huge ego-trip by Kelly. And he's actually the Devil. Not a Devil. THE DEVIL. Like Joe Banner only worse.
It doesn't matter what kind of teammate or how much of this is his fault though. It's one thing to not want a player of his caliber on your team, but to not get ANY draft pick for him is inexcusable. Unless Roseman, drafts seven legit players, he should be fired.
*edit: 6 picks...even Sproles was worth a 5th
I hear that part but none of us know why they couldnt get a pick before this blew up.
There is no logical answer because not being able to trade him isn't really possible. Unless you colossally farg it up
Joe Banner was able to trade away a dozen worthless quarterbacks for 2nd round picks. Howie Roseman can't get a 7th for a guy who won't make Canton but will at least get talked about for it during a slow year one day.
Quote from: Tomahawk on April 04, 2014, 09:22:23 PM
There is no logical answer because not being able to trade him isn't really possible. Unless you colossally farg it up
the logical answer is to have blind faith in everything having to do with the franchise because you are an eagles fan
Just because it hasn't worked for 54 years doesn't mean it won't work this time, IGY.
only the eagles could pull off a TO and a pimp in a ten year period....does any other team even have one situation in thier history like either of those?
mike williams just got traded for a draft pick
For a 6th mind you.
Quote from: ice grillin you on April 04, 2014, 10:35:10 PM
only the eagles could pull off a TO and a pimp in a ten year period....does any other team even have one situation in thier history like either of those?
the giants have like 100 super bowls
What team was willing to pay Jackson $10.7M this season? Jackson was on the trading block for weeks. McLane said multiple NFL sources told him there were zero trade offers.
Quote from: ice grillin you on April 04, 2014, 11:57:41 PM
mike williams just got traded for a draft pick
And the knife is still in his leg
Quote from: QB Eagles on April 05, 2014, 07:38:35 AM
What team was willing to pay Jackson $10.7M this season? Jackson was on the trading block for weeks. McLane said multiple NFL sources told him there were zero trade offers.
Then maybe you just keep him and, oh I don't know, suspend him for not drinking his smoothies instead of letting him go wherever the farg he wants.
Other teams didn't want to pay Jackson $10.7M to play. The Eagles definitely didn't want to pay him $10.7M to not play. And bottom line, they didn't want him on the team.
The reason(s) they didn't want him on the team haven't really been disclosed. I wasn't in that locker room so I don't know if it's an overreaction by the Eagles or whether he really was so much of a disruptive pain in the ass that it was the right decision. People have all kinds of opinions pro and con about that, mostly based on total speculation and emotion.
People should blame the Eagles for making the decision if they feel that keeping him would have been better long-term for the team. But once the Eagles decided to get rid of him, you can't blame them for cutting him instead of trading him. They tried to trade him. No one wanted a trade.
Well they definitely had to dump him now, when there's no chance he can be a disruption and no other team will lose a receiver to injury and look for a replacement. There was no reason to at least hold on to him until the draft in case a team decides they want a 1300 yard receiver instead of a 5'9 linebacker from East Carolina.
Think of the reality of that. First of all, the team wouldn't keep him through OTAs, because if he got hurt there, they'd be stuck paying him. So they'd have to move him at the draft. A team would have to decide that, because they missed out on the $1M rookies they were targeting, now they want to pay the $10.7M salary of a player they already passed on. This would have to be a team as stingy as the Eagles that actually has that kind of monetary flexibility that late in the NFL year. And they'd also know the Eagles are desperate and near cutting him (especially after seeing them draft Kelvin Benjamin), so they'd offer what, a 6th or 7th? More likely than that, the Eagles just would have cut him after the draft, which would have been an even bigger farg you to DJax than what the team did, seeing as how it's unlikely he would have been able to pull a $7M contract that late.
You still might see no downside for the Eagles there, but it would be an extra month of dealing with the Jackson issue both in the media and behind the scenes.
Basically I see the team's handling of the situation like this:
Handling the media, including timing the cut with the gang story: terrible
The actual decision to part with DJax: Super disappointing as a fan but I have no way of knowing if it was justified. I can easily imagine either scenario. I hope more comes out about it but we may be waiting a while.
The decision to cut instead of trade: Not even convinced that this was a real decision, it was driven by the market for DJax.
you can def argue over whether they should have gotten rid of him at all...I think it was stupid but if you think he was the devil himself then I guess it was a good move...I personally don't think he was even in the top 100 worst people in the history of the league....hes not even the worst eagle ever...but I guess we will find out next year if he brings the washington franchise down
and it was the eagles who murdered his value....there was a shtein ton of money to spend around the league this year 10 mil for that kind of player was nothing...the reason the 10 million dollars was an issue is because howie waited until after free agency started to move him....hurting both his value and the eagles roster....they could have used pimps money to make their own team better if they had moved him earlier...and don't tell me they secretly tried to do that and not one team wanted him for a 7th round pick
the way the eagles have handled this whole thing is nothing short of complete incompetency
I don't care about the value in a 5th/6th/7th round pick versus cutting him. What I do care about is getting that in return would have allowed the Eagles to dictate his destination, not letting him sign with the taterskins.
http://www.nj.com/eagles/index.ssf/2014/04/five_things_desean_jackson_and_stephen_a_smith_got_wrong.html
Stephen A is such a schmuck. He talked and pontificated more than the guy he was interviewing.
Quote from: Diomedes on April 05, 2014, 01:08:00 PM
http://www.nj.com/eagles/index.ssf/2014/04/five_things_desean_jackson_and_stephen_a_smith_got_wrong.html
QuoteNJ.com uncovered Jackson's ties to alleged gang members through its own reporting. The Eagles played no part in NJ.com's investigation. When asked about Jackson's alleged gang ties, team officials said they were unaware of the ties and would not comment.
The NFLPA says it will look into whether the Eagles engaged in a smear campaign. When a union official contacted NJ.com sports director Kevin Manahan, the official was told the Eagles provided no information on Jackson's alleged gang ties.
More evidence that the gang stuff was just distracting horseshtein, and not truly related to his release. Still bad for the Eagles to time his release with the story.
it wasnt even the timing so much as the silence
i think the timing was what it was because once that piece drops they know his value drops to less than zero
Quote from: QB Eagles on April 05, 2014, 04:49:38 PMMore evidence that the gang stuff was just distracting horseshtein, and not truly related to his release. Still bad for the Eagles to time his release with the story.
Yeah, it's clearly not as much of an issue as I thought it is. Apparently, these companies have done the workup on gang affiliations and decided the risk is small/low.
if the "gang stuff" was an issue he would have been gone a long time ago....its been around him for years...it wasn't made known by that stupid article
The worst part of all this is they couldn't find a way to keep Vick. This whole situation is so stupid, but it would be so much more entertaining if they had gotten rid of a player for hanging around with alleged criminals while still employing an actual one. The best would have been if Andy were still the coach. Hell, he hired his own criminal kid.
He hired both of his criminal kids.
I only remember the dead one, but I'll take your word for it.
(http://prod.static.chiefs.clubs.nfl.com//assets/images/imported/KC/photos/2013-Coach-Cards/Reid_britt.jpg)
quality control means making sure the players coke is nothing less than that bruce banner shtein
Assistant Strength and Conditioning Coaches had to fend for themselves, and look how that turned out.
well rome - i have a jersey lined up for the home skins game. :yay
Not gonna MOCK because they're voluntary, but pimp didn't show up for taterskin OTAs
they started already ?
QuoteThe NFL allows first-year coaches to start OTAs two weeks before other teams. Philadelphia's OTAs will begin on April 21, and Jackson probably made his travel plans with the expectation he would be ready for Eagles practice. Besides, Jackson is only missing Phase One of OTAs, which is two weeks of strength and conditioning and physical rehabilitation only.
That is why Jackson's absence appears excused.
Also, as far as DeSean Jackson goes, he told the #taterskins about this trip pre-signing. Expected to in town next week.
— John Keim (@john_keim) April 7, 2014
:yay
So, if I'm reading this right, Jackson's going deep into his primadonna act already and is a locker room cancer for his brand new team.
Yep, sounds right!
He is out four wheeling on some tropical island...wonder how the jerkoffs at ES feel about this.
5 stats that may explain DeSean's departure (http://www.csnphilly.com/football-philadelphia-eagles/5-stats-may-explain-deseans-departure)
No worries, guys. KKKooper will take care of the deep ball!
Quote from: Reuben Frank4. Riley can go deep
Believe it or not, Riley Cooper actually caught more deep balls from Foles last year than Jackson.
We think of Jackson as one of the most dangerous deep threats in the league and Cooper as a modest mid-round pick. But while Jackson had eight receptions of 40 yards or more last year, half of them were from Vick.
With Foles at quarterback, Cooper had six receptions of 40 yards or more -- more than Jackson.
In fact, Cooper wound up sixth in the league with his six 40-yard receptions, behind only Jackson, Josh Gordon, A.J. Green, Torrey Smith and Alshon Jeffery -- and ahead of Calvin Johnson, Demaryius Thomas, Vincent Jackson, Mike Wallace and Antonio Brown.
Cooper may not stretch the field like DeSean because he doesn't have his speed, but Cooper did prove that he can separate down the field and use his body to raise up and fight for the ball.
(I wonder if Frank was able to type that with a straight face.)
I think I've got it now. Jackson's production dropped off when Vick when out because Foles can't throw deep and Jackson's an 80 catch, 1300 yard, deep route running one trick pony that they got rid of possibly because he knows alleged criminals while teammates with actual criminals. His salary was too high, and after spending so much money on a gimp and a 40 catch one trick pony of a redneck that the Eagles, who are currently $20 million under the cap, had too much money tied up in one position. Teams were unwilling to part with even a 2015 7th round pick for him, including the coach who drafted him, the Genius in New England who will take any player no matter how much of a headache they are, and the Carolina Panthers who are so hungry for receivers they might have Jason Avant as their #1 guy this season, so they were forced to cut him because he wouldn't buy into Head Coach Chip Kelly's system of outpacing defenses and dragging your balls across their face while they gasp for breath. Now Jackson has signed with a team in the division that, like Carolina, was pretty desperate for a legitimate receiver for their young quarterback, so Jackson can torture the Eagles like he has the motherfarging Giants every farging year. The Eagles have refused to comment on why they cut the second best player on the team, and the NFLPA is super butthurt about it.
Did I leave any parts out?
Your suicide note?
QR code that just goes here.
Quote from: Geowhizzer on April 07, 2014, 06:08:41 PM
5 stats that may explain DeSean's departure (http://www.csnphilly.com/football-philadelphia-eagles/5-stats-may-explain-deseans-departure)
No worries, guys. KKKooper will take care of the deep ball!
Quote from: Reuben Frank4. Riley can go deep
Believe it or not, Riley Cooper actually caught more deep balls from Foles last year than Jackson.
We think of Jackson as one of the most dangerous deep threats in the league and Cooper as a modest mid-round pick. But while Jackson had eight receptions of 40 yards or more last year, half of them were from Vick.
With Foles at quarterback, Cooper had six receptions of 40 yards or more -- more than Jackson.
In fact, Cooper wound up sixth in the league with his six 40-yard receptions, behind only Jackson, Josh Gordon, A.J. Green, Torrey Smith and Alshon Jeffery -- and ahead of Calvin Johnson, Demaryius Thomas, Vincent Jackson, Mike Wallace and Antonio Brown.
Cooper may not stretch the field like DeSean because he doesn't have his speed, but Cooper did prove that he can separate down the field and use his body to raise up and fight for the ball.
(I wonder if Frank was able to type that with a straight face.)
thats just straight up embarrassing
if you think the eagles are better off in the locker room without pimp then fine....maybe they are....but dont even pretend they are as good or better on the field without him....and on top of that use kkk as the reason
I'm hearing Jackson getting shtein for missing the OTA's. Whatever, soon as he goes deep a few times and burns whatever defense it will all be forgotten. Hopefully he does it against the farging Eagles and dances in the end zone.
http://mobile.philly.com/blogs/?wss=/philly/blogs/dneagles/&id=255021961
Shady speaks
Shady McCoy, New York Giant
:-D
a whole lot of nothing
Duce was sent to look at Tre Mason so......
This team doesn't need Mason, imo. If they pick a rb I hope it's a big short yardage guy, a head knocker.
go dolphins. go fake tits.
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good for shady
farg this front office
I can see why Shady would back him. I can also see why others wouldn't. I don't doubt that he would act like a kid in the locker room. He's not the first, certainly not the last.
My thought on this is pretty simple. If you're worried about 1 guy destroying the lockerroom, then you have a weak lockerroom and your problems extend far beyond 1 non-conforming diva. But this is team that came together around Riley KKKooper, so i don't buy that no one could get along with DeSean. Barry Bonds was notoriously hated by his teammates, but that didn't stop them from winning 90+ games every year.
If they got sick of his antics, fine. Get something out of it though. Anything. A 2018 7th rd pick for all I care. If your logic for getting rid of him is that its in the best interest of the team, then it should also be in the best interest of the team to get some form of compensation for him. It's not like the Eagles went 3-13 last year. They won the division and he was a major factor in that. If he pulled some TO-type nonsense this year and the team takes a nose dive, then fine, let him go. But all of these "issues" with him were mostly kept in house and they didn't seem to affect the team on the field. Cutting him was beyond stupid. It was cowardly.
What's done is done though and at this point, all you can do is hope that it doesn't come back to bite them in the ass.
he murdered the locker room so bad that they won the division last year.....I guess without him the skys the limit.....superbowl in 15
Lol
I have a buddy who goes to Jefferson for pharmacy school and for some reason last week Dorenbos was there. Asked Dorenbos whether they'll miss Desean and he answered with a look of disgust and said "Maclin's a better receiver man"
Quote from: ice grillin you on April 13, 2014, 04:06:58 PM
he murdered the locker room so bad that they won the division last year.....I guess without him the skys the limit.....superbowl in 15 2115.
shady didnt say anything good or bad...it was completely down the middle
pimp is good (duh). no no pimp wasnt a locker room cancer (not throwing someone under the bus on the record. wow!). i trust chip and howie (duh).
not that shady would even think of this but it also not good to throw stones from a glass house. ho on the partybus say what
If you read between the lines, Shady defended Pimp and Chip, but not Howie
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Coleman was on Sirius NFL radio and pretty much echoed Shady in saying the rumors layed out in that hit piece are bullshtein
So yeah... Solid job, Howie.
farging clown
lurie inc.
I wonder if Jeff even knows Pimp was cut?
Be funny if he showed up in a 10 jersey confused as to why he's not around
hes knee deep in that young asian thang......wouldnt shock me if he gives the state of the franchise address this summer from her vagina
Haha yeah he's wearing her out. I wonder if it gets awkward for Christina around the NovaCare?
Why would it? She's hittin' that ass too.
smoking gun
http://www.philly.com/philly/news/20140417_Pimp_on_trial_for_alleged_sex_trafficking.html
Quote from: ice grillin you on April 17, 2014, 07:04:14 AM
smoking gun
http://www.philly.com/philly/news/20140417_Pimp_on_trial_for_alleged_sex_trafficking.html
I forgot how bad you were at humor. This made me remember.
And now we can officially close this thread while we patiently wait for Jackson to show up in the Arrested NFL People thread. Or tr he injured thread. Or nothing because he was actually cut for no good reason and farg the Eagles.