Season opener tonight vs the Crosbys
FORWARD LINES
1. Simon Gagne-Peter Forsberg-Mike Knuble
2. Kyle Calder-Mike Richards-Jeff Carter
3. Boyd Kane-Petr Nedved-Sami Kapanen
4. Geoff Sanderson-R.J. Umberger-Randy Robitaille
DEFENSE PAIRINGS
1. Derian Hatcher-Mike Rathje
2. Joni Pitkanen-Freddy Meyer
3. Randy Jones-Nolan Baumgartner
(Jones will be replaced by Lars Jonsson when he returns from injury)
Who is:
Kyle Calder. Boyd Kane. Geoff Sanderson. Randy Robitaille. Randy Jones. Nolan Baumgartner.
My guess is Forsberg gets injured by Halloween.
the defense is laughable...the fact that they have no goalie behind it makes me wanna cry
Quote from: BigEd76 on October 05, 2006, 04:48:31 PM
DEFENSE PAIRINGS
1. Derian Hatcher-Mike Rathje
worst first defense evAr
ugh really? go flyers and stuff.
anyone thats been keeping track of them in the off season want to give a quick re hash of what happened? i know primeau retired.. do we still have terrible goalies?
Kyle Calder = top scorer on Chicago last year, got him in a trade for Handzus
Boyd Kane = rookie
Geoff Sanderson = mid-30s forward from Phoenix (since we don't have enough of them)
Randy Robitaille = free agent from Minnesota
Randy Jones = split time between the Flyers and Phantoms last year
Nolan Baumgartner = free agent from Vancouver
Quote from: L-ong-B-each-I-ggle on October 05, 2006, 05:21:16 PManyone thats been keeping track of them in the off season want to give a quick re hash of what happened? i know primeau retired.. do we still have terrible goalies?
Same goalies (although Niittymaki has a torn labrum and will be taking shots all year to numb the pain)
Primeau and Desjardins retired
Therien is pretty much retired since nobody wants him
Kim Johnsson and Branko Radivojevic signed with Minnesota
Donald Brashear signed with Washington
Marty Murray is back from Germany, but he'll start the year with the Phantoms.
Lars Jonsson was brought over from Sweden. He was a 1st round pick of Boston a few years ago but never signed.
I'm sort of glad I have class tonight
Quote from: ice grillin you on October 05, 2006, 04:59:19 PM
the defense is laughable...the fact that they have no goalie behind it makes me wanna cry
but the paper said that the Hatcher/Rathje pairing was a "shutdown pairing"
Quote from: BigEd76 on October 05, 2006, 05:22:19 PM
Kyle Calder = top scorer on Chicago last year, got him in a trade for Handzus(has a good wrist shot, a sniper, fights for pucks in corners and decent skater)
Boyd Kane = rookie(won the ahl cup with the Phantoms 2 years ago and with Washingtons farm team last year, more of a grinder/instigator)
Geoff Sanderson = mid-30s forward from Phoenix (since we don't have enough of them)Skates Fast, decent shot, put up 25 goals for Phoenix
Randy Robitaille = free agent from Minnesota(Tempo guy, 4th liner at best really a depth signing)
Randy Jones = split time between the Flyers and Phantoms last year(im my opinion sucks, but Hitch love him)
Nolan Baumgartner = free agent from Vancouver(offensive defensman, former first round pick, another benefactor of the new NHL)
Lars Jonsson easily was the best signing this offseason, and when healthy will look much like another Joni.
Quote from: SunMo on October 05, 2006, 06:42:31 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on October 05, 2006, 04:59:19 PM
the defense is laughable...the fact that they have no goalie behind it makes me wanna cry
but the paper said that the Hatcher/Rathje pairing was a "shutdown pairing"
The more correct term would be "putdown pairing." As in they both should be put down like a broken-down horse.
Lars Jonsson easily was the best signing this offseason, and when healthy will look much like another Joni.
yeah and reggie brown is the next chad johnson
Down 2-0 already :boo
A couple flukey goals. Still out-shooting the Penguins and looking very quick and aggressive on defense. I like the looks so far. Have to cut down on letting up the flukey goals though.
And I thought following the Phillies was a waste of time....
Was the third one "flukey" too?
Didn't see it, I put on Dodgers/Mets for a minute.
same story as last year at this time but worse
the same:
1. awful pp due to not having a defenseman that can shoot
2. brutal goaltending...esche is simply awful...all three goals were on him tonight...the ouellet goal being embarrassing...youre seeing the difference between a very good goalie on the verge of stardom (fluery is what every flyer fan wishes nitty cent was) and a back up goalie tonight
3. no scoring outside of forsberg...the 2nd thru 4th lines are weaker than seven days
the worse:
4. horrid defense this year
Wow, out-shooting them 32-11 but losing 4-0. Esche not having his best game. The defense is playing good though. Look a lot quicker than last year.
Some bad passing and decision-making as well.
Quote from: Bunkley78 on October 05, 2006, 09:34:03 PM
Esche not having his best game.
nope, just having his normal game
Sounds more like a Nitty type game than an Esche game. Remember when that bum let up a goal from center ice last season? :-D
the have so many shots because theyve been given 1000 pp's...half of which have been two man advantages
the hope here is that forsberg get injured earlier than normal this season so they can get the #1 overall pick
i cant believe freddy meyer is in a regular nhl defensive rotation
Esche sucks.
ahhh, the good ol' days
Let it be the first of many. Well, unless, Hitchcock grows a pair and starts Nittymakki whenever he is back.
What has Nitty ever done in the NHL besides come up small when Hitch was close to making a goalie decision late season?
What has Esche done besides suck?
He's got the Flyers to the ECF. Esche isn't a perfect goalie, but he's more than capable as a starter. If you think Esche sucks then you must think the Flyers are REALLY farged, because Nitty surely isn't the answer.
I think Esche's year in 04 may have had something to do with the players in front of him. Just maybe though.
Nah. He showed what he can do game 1 @ Buffalo last season. He's a good goalie.
thanks for the summary ed. looks like another fun year.
Quote from: MDS on October 05, 2006, 09:50:07 PM
Let it be the first of many. Well, unless, Hitchcock grows a pair and starts Nittymakki whenever he is back.
I believe he is starting the home opener.
I listened to the game on the radio tonight at work. The announcers were jizzing about Forsberg and Crosby fighting. Was it a real fight or a puss match?
Pretty weak. Forsberg got some shots in. Crosby is a kid he would've got killed in a real fight.
This team may not probably won't make the playoffs.
Esche sucks, he's a career backup who cant control rebounds. 3 of the 4 goals were directly his fault, he had every opportunity to stop them but they all beat him short side. Flury had a great game but of the the 42 shots the flyers had maybe 20 were true shots. Esche on the other hand had let in 3 goals in 11 shots. I knew when he let in the first goal on the 3rd shot that he would be a turnstile. IGY, they need Jonsson back, he can and will shoot the puck. He's easily the Sean Taylor of hockey ^-^
rangers might drop an eight spot tomorrow
btw how was keith jones on the broadcast last night...he has to be better than coates but in general it seems as tho hed be a nice color guy
Quote from: ice grillin you on October 06, 2006, 08:58:21 AM
btw how was keith jones on the broadcast last night...he has to be better than coates but in general it seems as tho hed be a nice color guy
he did well. he was kinda homerish at points with his "lets get a goal guys" at the start of a power play. but he also mentioned some players who weren't playing well, which is more than the other two ever did.
he was kinda homerish at points with his "lets get a goal guys"
keith jones - born brantford, ontario
years played with
washington - 5
colorado - 3
philadelphia - 2
yeah, but he still shouldn't be rooting in the announcing booth
thats my point
he has a small connection to the flyers and even at that its a connection that is weaker than he has with two other teams in the league
why cant the flyers get some fair honest good announcers like a lot of other teams have...and for that matter the phillies as well
ahh, i see.
but overall, he was pretty good. he was definitely fair, he just rooted a little too much. he might get better at that as the year goes on.
Quote from: ice grillin you on October 06, 2006, 09:21:27 AM
why cant the flyers get some fair honest good announcers like a lot of other teams have...and for that matter the phillies as well
just like the Mixer
Quote from: SunMo on October 06, 2006, 09:14:12 AM
yeah, but he still shouldn't be rooting in the announcing booth
How does that make him different from any of the other Philadelphia announcers?
it doesnt but it doesnt make him right either
be a leader easy not a follower
I don't mind a homer as long as they don't go too extreme like complain about a penalty that clearly was one.
from Philly.com
QuoteFlyers took 77 shots against the Penguins. Forty were on net, 22 were blocked, and the rest were wide of the net. Many hit goalie Marc-Andre Fleury in the crest.
the more things change...
Quote from: SunMo on October 07, 2006, 01:52:41 PM
the more things change...
What? The suspense is killing me!!!1111111111111
Ha ha, suckers. I beat the filter.
Rathje out indefinitely with a herniated disc. Gauthier will play tonight
Esche sucks.
I wonder if clarke told rathje just to shut it down. He looked like he was in so much pain thursday. It would be great if he retired, freeing up alot of cap money.
That really was a horrible horrible signing.
This franchise really isn't all that much better than the Phillies.
The Phillies? I was thinking more along the line of the taterskins.
Well, if you weren't so blind in your Eagles fandom, you could see that Mr. Snyder is the best owner in all of sports. So, how can the taterskins be considered a bad franchise when they are so economically successful and willing to spend what it takes to win?
48 seconds in and the Rangers are already up 1-0. I have a feeling this one's gonna get ugly.
Flyers kill 4 straight penalties including two 2 man advantage. Nitty with a couple nice saves, Hatcher and Nedved look superb in the penalty kill. Bout to go on a 2 man advantage. Refs are calling everything right now.
Forsberg he shoots he scoooooooooooooooooooRes!!!!!111111111111111111111111111111111
All tied at 1. Flyers look like a completely different team right now.
Gagne shoots he scCCCCoooooooooooooooooRes!!!!!!11111111111111111111111111111111
Flyers up 2-1
4-3 Flyers, 2nd intermission
this is unbelievable
Nitty... cmon. Esche would've won that game.
I cant wait until we trade Esche. What a day that will be.
Out with Esche will go the chances for a Stanley Cup.
Quote from: Bunkley78 on October 07, 2006, 10:24:03 PM
Out with Esche will go the chances for a Stanley Cup.
Those chances went out when the lockout started, yoda.
Forsberg is a Hoyda. He's the best player on the team, the captain. And because he doesn't feel comfortable with his stick, or so he claims, he let's other people go first in the shootout. What a bitch. That's a real leader there, he wants to the pressure on him at the end of the game.
Note to Peter: Good players, hell any player, wants the puck in that situation. Let Hitchcock stop you, that's his job. You should want to go regardless of how comfortable you feel or anything.
Why did I just rant about this? I don't care.
Speaking of old and slow (http://www.philly.com/mld/philly/sports/15717428.htm)
Leech still skates better than Rathje could if healthy. Another article from the Inky says Clarke is going after Ilya Bryzgalov the goalie from Anaheim.
Sadly a 38 year old Leetch is an upgrade.
Quoteimmediately bolster the Flyers' sagging power play (2 for 19), which is ranked 18th in the NHL at 10.5 percent efficiency
There's 12 teams with a worse power play than ours? :sly
Quote from: BigEd76 on October 09, 2006, 05:01:12 PM
Quoteimmediately bolster the Flyers' sagging power play (2 for 19), which is ranked 18th in the NHL at 10.5 percent efficiency
There's 12 teams with a worse power play than ours? :sly
There's 12 teams worse than 10.5%?
That's nuts.
STANLEY CUP 8)
Why don't we just drag in LeClair and Amonte and pretend it's 1999.
Flyers up 1-0 midway through the 1st on a Forsberg goal. Game is on VS. which (I think) means out of town fans can watch too.
unreal shot by forsberg
Rangers tie it up on an odd man rush. 1-1
not a real great goal by Nitty, went down way to early
Quote from: MDS on October 09, 2006, 09:51:41 PM
Why don't we just drag in LeClair and Amonte and pretend it's 1999.
i'll give you 2 reasons: the backstreet boys and y2k.
the nhl is stupid. not that i want to watch it, but if i did, i couldnt. i dont have comcast cable, we have something called hotwire that i think is affilited with dish network. anyway, we dont get oln or versus or what have you. we have csn, but im sure theyre paying a shteinload to carry it. comcast sucks. also not having cn8 during college basketball season is going to suck nuts.
3-1 Flyers
4-1 Flyers
4-2 Flyers
Flyers win 4-2.
Forsbergs shot was one of the most ridiculous shots i've seen and he did it with ease. :evil
Flyers lose 3-1 to the Habs. Only goal scored was by Umberger. Face the Devils on Saturday.
People pay more attention to the Soul and Temple football than they do to hockey.
And by people you mean the jews right? ::)
By I mean you don't hear shtein about the nhl. like i had no idea the season was starting until the day it began. thats pretty sad that a media whore like me would not notice a supposed major professional sport beginning their season. just an observation...that...the sport is well dead. bettman did a good job.
By I mean you don't hear shtein about the nhl. like i had no idea the season was starting until the day it began. thats pretty sad that a media whore like me would not notice a supposed major professional sport beginning their season. just an observation...that...the sport is well dead. bettman did a good job.
you act like this is a bad thing....the less attention it gets the more it keeps bandwagon whore espn fans like you away from the sport...its kinda cool for 95% of the fans of a sport to be knowledgable and real...nothing makes me happier than to know that people like you dont know about hockey...its one of the things that seperates it from all the other sports...very low douchebag factor
i personally hope the league never blows up....my team aint going anywhere and either is the sport...it needs to struggle enough to get rid of 6-8 teams
Quote from: ice grillin you on October 12, 2006, 08:15:46 AM
...but it needs to struggle enough to get rid of 6-8 teams
Bingo. The league got way ahead of itself by expanding to its current team number. No way the NHL should have 30 teams.
MDS is right though, Bettman screwed everything up. IGY is it making you sick right now with some of the crap calls that are being made. The PK has been great so far(du2 Richards playing unbelievable) but league wide the whistle is being blow at a ridiculous pace.
Quote from: MDS on October 11, 2006, 11:35:46 PM
By I mean you don't hear shtein about the nhl. like i had no idea the season was starting until the day it began. thats pretty sad that a media whore like me would not notice a supposed major professional sport beginning their season. just an observation...that...the sport is well dead. bettman did a good job.
This is a Football town!
even as a Flyers season tix holder, I don't
really get into hockey until January...when NFL season is winding down.
Quote from: ice grillin you on October 12, 2006, 08:15:46 AM
By I mean you don't hear shtein about the nhl. like i had no idea the season was starting until the day it began. thats pretty sad that a media whore like me would not notice a supposed major professional sport beginning their season. just an observation...that...the sport is well dead. bettman did a good job.
you act like this is a bad thing....the less attention it gets the more it keeps bandwagon whore espn fans like you away from the sport...its kinda cool for 95% of the fans of a sport to be knowledgable and real...nothing makes me happier than to know that people like you dont know about hockey...its one of the things that seperates it from all the other sports...very low douchebag factor
i personally hope the league never blows up....my team aint going anywhere and either is the sport...it needs to struggle enough to get rid of 6-8 teams
except douchebags have money to spend to see and support teams. which is another thing the nhl lacks compared to other leagues.
The flyers sell out every game, but there are teams like the Panthers and Lightning that cant even get half capacity. I have to agree the sport needs a downsizing, new Commish, and a business plan to get off VS. Comcast owns the rights for the NHL Network but it sounds like VS will basically be theyre version of that, which is sad. I really loved them pimping the new season of 3 brooklyn guys go fishing during the game tuesday :puke
IGY is it making you sick right now with some of the crap calls that are being made.
yes...the ranger game on saturday was particularly agregious...but im way more upset with fighting basically being non exisitent in the game
except douchebags have money to spend to see and support teams. which is another thing the nhl lacks compared to other leagues.
the nhl has very few attendance problems...its the tv situation that is hurting it
Quote from: ice grillin you on October 12, 2006, 09:11:07 AM
IGY is it making you sick right now with some of the crap calls that are being made.
yes...the ranger game on saturday was particularly agregious...but im way more upset with fighting basically being non exisitent in the game
except douchebags have money to spend to see and support teams. which is another thing the nhl lacks compared to other leagues.
the nhl has very few attendance problems...its the tv situation that is hurting it
Versus? Vs? Or whatever the heck they're being called this week.
I fully expect the next NHL deal to be on public access cable.
I complained to VS about the broadcast tuesday night, how Olyck calld the flyers the Flowers. Tuesday night was the most brutal broadcast i've ever heard. I told them in the complaint that the constant screen graphics covering the screen during play made no sense. Last year they made adjustments when fans voiced their opinions, hopefully that stays true. Having center ice now , its amazing how well TSN covers hockey.
Quote from: Seabiscuit36 on October 12, 2006, 09:18:01 AM
I complained to VS about the broadcast tuesday night, how Olyck calld the flyers the Flowers. Tuesday night was the most brutal broadcast i've ever heard. I told them in the complaint that the constant screen graphics covering the screen during play made no sense. Last year they made adjustments when fans voiced their opinions, hopefully that stays true. Having center ice now , its amazing how well TSN covers hockey.
The only problem I have with Center Ice is the same I have with Extra Innings: No home broadcasts for the Philly teams.
Got to say, though: I enjoy both the Rangers and the Devils broadcasters. They're fairly neutral, and they call a good game. Probably why Davidson and Emerick have both been used on national broadcasts.
The Sabres announcers should be drawn and quartered.
Same with the Caps
the flyer announcers last year were bar none the worst in the nhl...the phillies are an embarrassment....im glad i rarely ever have to hear either...
i dont know how you can stomach chico resch...he is a disgrace...and emerick whuile not the homer that chico is is unlistenable in general
i agree on rosen and jd tho they were the best in the biz
ayo igy son, id best watch your mouth. im gonna finish watching the 4th season of the wire today, and i dont think you want me flyin spoilers round these parts? now i be talkin in your peoples dialectic to get the point across to you, pup.
already seen it dunny....soil your panties
claiming mafarga. i aint bying that shtein for one second.
i aint bying that shtein for one second
care factor: negative 47
Last place in the Atlantic
Do they have any wins yet?
Quote from: FFatPatt on October 15, 2006, 06:58:35 PM
Do they have any wins yet?
Yeah, they beat the Rangers once. 1-3-1, I believe.
After watching all the games I found it very strange. The Flyers are playing sound hockey. Especially on defense. They are playing much better than last season. Also, while they aren't scoring on the PP, they are still getting goals. So why are the Flyers 1-3-1? I thought about it for a while and I think the main reason is that this team is playing with no fire at all. Their team captain refuses to shoot in a shootout because the stick doesn't feel right, they are blowing leads, they are making lazy passes and giving lame efforts in fighting for pucks.
This team needs a stern kick in the ass. Play with some fire already.
They're almost as bad at hockey as the Lions are at football.
Quote from: MDS on October 15, 2006, 08:46:42 PM
They're almost as bad at hockey as the Owls are at football.
Zing.
That's much worse.
i'm setting tonights line at Sabres -3.5 pucks.
Esche looking good so far tonight. He's facing a lot of shots though...seems like they've been in the Flyers zone since the game started.
Richards gets a penalty shot!
And he missed. :-\
Keith Richards?
Buffalo scores. Game over.
3-0 Sabres
Esche blows.
5-0
We gotta give the best goalie in the league some help, my lord. Can't give them odd man breaks every play.
6-0. Love it.
touchdown JP Losman
wait :-D
6-0
This team is an utter embarassment. No way they make the playoffs this year. Clarke needs to go.
Care to wager on that SD?
5-0 6-0 :-D
I've already switched to the NLCS.
Albert Pujols is pulling a semi-A-Rod in this series. Maybe he'll bitch more about Glavine after this game.
Is it April already?
I think he has a hammy problem that is hurting his swing.
Robert Esche is the suck.
Heck, right now the whole Flyers team is the suck.
Quote from: Bunkley78 on October 17, 2006, 08:39:27 PM
Care to wager on that SD?
I wrote this in the offseason thread after I saw them get destroyed in a pre-season game:
QuoteI wouldn't be so down on them if they either had: A) A speedy defense capable of being effective in todays NHL or B) A good goalie.
For those two reasons alone, I can't see us finishing as anything other than a bottom seed or out of the playoffs altogether.
So yeah, I'll stick to my guns. Pick your poison, be it cash or something else. This team ain't making the playoffs.
If Phoenix wins at St. Louis, the Flyers will have the worst record in the NHL...
this team is so inept...they can't even accomplish the most simple of tasks, dump the puck in, get a pass off. they are AWFUL.
Trade Forsberg now.
Maybe this will finally get Hitchcock and Clarke fired.
I know, I know... pipe dream.
Hitch is the best coach in hockey. He's been at the top, he's won big games. Don't blame him for Clarke's poor job at putting together a complete team.
hey, Carter scored. no more shutout!
10-1 final
....and just like that, it's 7-1 :-D
Quote from: Bunkley78 on October 17, 2006, 09:01:18 PM
Hitch is the best coach in hockey. He's been at the top, he's one big games. Don't blame him for Clarke's poor job at putting together a complete team.
:-D
Hitchcock's defense-at-all-costs style of hockey is not compatable with the post-lockout NHL. He has not shown an ability to adjust to the modern game- in the least.
He's also horrendous at utilizing younger players (Carter, Richards, etc.).
When Forsberg goes down with the inevitable injury, the Flyers are one of the worst teams in hockey.
CLEAN HOUSE.
8-1 :-D :-D :-D
The "modern game" is hardly any different to the pre lockout NHL. You may think the changes have made a huge difference, but they really haven't. Last time I checked, the Flyers have had the same problems for the last 6 or so years. Hitch wasn't the only coach in that time period either. It is the personnel, not the coaching.
8-1.
9-1 :-D :-D :-D :-D
Quote from: Bunkley78 on October 17, 2006, 09:06:18 PM
The "modern game" is hardly any different to the pre lockout NHL. You may think the changes have made a huge difference, but they really haven't. Last time I checked, the Flyers have had the same problems for the last 6 or so years. Hitch wasn't the only coach in that time period either. It is the personnel, not the coaching.
8-1.
Oh, the cleaning house will include a number of the players.
Of the team right now, I defnintely keep Pitkanen, Carter, Gagne... maybe I'm missing one, but I don't think so.
Clarke? DEAD
Hitchcock? DEAD
Niedermayer?
holy shtein
It should be noted that Esche is still in there to get embarassed by Hitchcock. I could see a trade happening...
Quote from: Geowhizzer on October 17, 2006, 09:09:50 PM
Quote from: Bunkley78 on October 17, 2006, 09:06:18 PM
The "modern game" is hardly any different to the pre lockout NHL. You may think the changes have made a huge difference, but they really haven't. Last time I checked, the Flyers have had the same problems for the last 6 or so years. Hitch wasn't the only coach in that time period either. It is the personnel, not the coaching.
8-1.
Oh, the cleaning house will include a number of the players.
Of the team right now, I defnintely keep Pitkanen, Carter, Gagne... maybe I'm missing one, but I don't think so.
Clarke? DEAD
Hitchcock? DEAD
Niedermayer?
I'm not saying Carter doesn't have potential, because he does, but what exactly has he done? Same with Richards. I know everyone was high on them coming off the Champion Phantoms, but they haven't exactly been lights out as Flyers. They haven't been bad, but I'd say they were solid and that is about it.
Quote from: BigEd76 on October 17, 2006, 09:11:03 PM
It should be noted that Esche is still in there to get embarassed by Hitchcock. I could see a trade happening...
Things shouldn't have to go to shtein for the GM to make a trade. He should know what his team is made of before the season starts. Bad GMing by Clarke.
Also, while I think Hitch is a great coach, maybe firing him is the right idea. Not because he can't coach, but I think he has completely lost control of the team.
How to not succeed in the modern NHL - By SD_Eagle
- Slow defense
- Bad Goaltending
- Slow forwards
- Old School GM who has no idea how to build a team to compete in todays NHL
- Defense oriented coach who refuses to change his system despite extraordinary rule changes
Bunkley, no bet? What's the deal?
I'm down, you name it.
You put it out there so you decide.
I'll mull it over.
Video clip of Esche (http://philadelphia.comcastsportsnet.com/media/video/flyers/101606-Esche.wmv)
Courier Post (http://www.courierpostonline.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20061017/SPORTS04/610170363/1002/SPORTS)
QuoteAsked Monday about Flyers coach Ken Hitchcock's decision to start him against the Sabres, Esche said, "I don't try getting in his head, that's for sure. It's an empty place."
Hitchcock grew red-faced when told of Esche's comment and could only come back with the reply, "Tit for tat."
The last time Esche faced the Sabres, he was standing in the runway behind the Flyers' bench holding a stick he splintered against a cinder block wall.
It was May 2 and Esche was seething after allowing five goals in what would become a humiliating 7-1 home-elimination loss in Game 6 of the Eastern Conference quarterfinals.
Esche needs to go. Now.
As any trade value he may have had plummets faster than my stock portfolio in 2001.
half the goals weren't even his fault, the team in front of him is just awful
Sometimes I farging hate rooting for these teams.
Bwahahaha Esche. Haha. What a joke. How long have I been saying he sucks?
Look, I know nothing about hockey except for this: the flyers have never had a goalie capable of taking them to the cup since prime hextall. they almost got lucky with boucher that one year, and esche a few years ago. but you farging need a goalie to stand on his head a few games to win the cup. flyers havent had that in a while. they dont have anything close to it on the roster now. sure they could get the 8 seed, but who really cares about hockey anyway?
Anyone else going to the game in Tampa?? I don't even know why the farg I'm going to bother.
My god was that brutal. :-\
I watched it in HD. It was like watching a funeral out there.
Jesus... the Flyers are horrendous.
I don't watch hockey, nor do I even know much about it. But I do know that giving up 9 goals is bad. Like really, really, really bad.
No flies on you, dude.
Flyers put Nedved, Dimitrakos, and Baumgartner on waivers
http://www.tsn.ca/news_story.asp?ID=181141&hubName=main
They should Hatcher on waivers. He sucks. And yes, I'm basing this on the one highlight I saw of him getting schooled in that Buffalo game.
Quote from: SunMo on October 18, 2006, 01:40:58 PM
Flyers put Nedved, Dimitrakos, and Baumgartner on waivers
http://www.tsn.ca/news_story.asp?ID=181141&hubName=main
let the orange bloodletting begin
FYI, according to HockeysFuture.com, which ranks NHL prospects, Picard is the top defenseman, Ruzicka is the top RW and Eager (who's been with the Flyers before) is the top LW...
Quote from: BigEd76 on October 18, 2006, 03:47:45 PM
FYI, according to HockeysFuture.com, which ranks NHL prospects, Picard is the top defenseman, Ruzicka is the top RW and Eager (who's been with the Flyers before) is the top LW...
unfortunately, they are the top prospect the FLYERS have...not top NHL prospects.
yup, but they've been picking in the 21-30 range for 10 years, so they rarely get an opportunity at a good pick, and the top prospects they had are already on the team (Niittymaki, Carter, Richards, Umberger, Pitkanen)...
Quote from: SunMo on October 18, 2006, 01:40:58 PM
Flyers put Nedved, Dimitrakos, and Baumgartner on waivers
http://www.tsn.ca/news_story.asp?ID=181141&hubName=main
My first reacton when I saw this on the bottom line was that there is a trade in the works. Hopefully its for a Goalie and possibly a speedy defenseman.
Quote from: BigEd76 on October 18, 2006, 04:44:40 PM
yup, but they've been picking in the 21-30 range for 10 years, so they rarely get an opportunity at a good pick, and the top prospects they had are already on the team (Niittymaki, Carter, Richards, Umberger, Pitkanen)...
need to get players downing Red Bull, Doubleshot, Rock Star, Full Throttle, etc... all game long.
or maybe this: http://www.cocaine-drink.com/
Down 1-0 in Tampa but they're definitely playing better hockey. Ruzicka looks pretty good so far. Forsberg is out with a wrist injury after getting shoved into the boards in the 1st.
Goal by Fedetenko followed by a nice boobie shot from some tramp in the audience.
2-0 Tampa
Game. Over.
Quote from: SD_Eagle on October 19, 2006, 08:47:21 PM
Down 1-0 in Tampa but they're definitely playing better hockey. Ruzicka looks pretty good so far. Forsberg is out with a wrist injury after getting shoved into the boards in the 1st.
And, of course, there was no answer from the cowardly team in Orange.
I'm having a hard time even watching this team right now. :boom
They're a bunch of Hoydas. The one thing I always loved about the Flyers was even if they lost they would still be one of the tougher teams in the league. Not this team. They're slow, they don't finish checks, they get beat to the puck, they don't do the muck and grind work in the corners, they don't stick up for each other, there's no presence in front of the net. They need to grow some balls.
they look like they've quit on Hitch
Hoydas lose 4-1. I guess its a step forward considering it wasn't 9-1.
I missed the 3rd period. Ho-hum.
they look like they've quit on Hitch
wouldnt be surprising...hitch is tolerable when things are going well but when your team sucks hes untenable
not because hes a bad coach but he needs to go..hes a three year guy that you hire to take a veteran team to the cup...he had his run in 04 and it didnt work out...time to move on to a coach who can fully develop the young players...something hitch is not suited for
I love hitch but its time to go. Start over, get Poulin in place of Clarke. I've been lucky enought to be on business travel this week so i missed the debacle against buffalo. Almost went to a thrashers game last night here in the ATL.
Quote from: ice grillin you on October 20, 2006, 08:06:43 AM
they look like they've quit on Hitch
wouldnt be surprising...hitch is tolerable when things are going well but when your team sucks hes untenable
i agree, i get the feeling he's the type of coach that beats you up enough to crush your confidence, not build it up. this team is so mentally fragile, it's sickening. Richards said as much after the Buffalo game.
Quote from: Seabiscuit36 on October 20, 2006, 09:14:14 AM
I love hitch but its time to go. Start over, get Poulin in place of Clarke. I've been lucky enought to be on business travel this week so i missed the debacle against buffalo. Almost went to a thrashers game last night here in the ATL.
now there's a great idea, seriously. As much as I love the Flyer's history, Clarke is still stuck in the past, and will never result in a Cup challenging team in the new NHL. He won't commit to a #1 goalie (in the past and present (maybe Nitty)), and still insists on burly/slow d-men.
Snider needs to cut ties with Clarkie (sorry Bob).
After 7 games, Robitaille and Ruzicka are tied for the team lead in +/- with 0 :-D
(Hatcher is at -10)
Hatcher is on pace for - 117 and is last in the league in plus/minus
Go ahead IGY kill me for thinking Hatcher would be better this year.
Quote from: BigEd76 on October 20, 2006, 01:12:20 PM
After 7 games, Robitaille and Ruzicka are tied for the team lead in +/- with 0 :-D
(Hatcher is at -10)
Hatcher is the worst F/A signing in Flyers history, even worse than Gratton.
I dunno....Gratton cost us 4 #1 picks to sign. Lucky for us, Tampa Bay agreed to take Renberg and Dykhuis instead...
Quote from: BigEd76 on October 20, 2006, 01:16:35 PM
I dunno....Gratton cost us 4 #1 picks to sign. Lucky for us, Tampa Bay agreed to take Renberg and Dykhuis instead...
Gratton was FAR worse.
Quote from: PhillyGirl on October 20, 2006, 01:18:44 PM
Quote from: BigEd76 on October 20, 2006, 01:16:35 PM
I dunno....Gratton cost us 4 #1 picks to sign. Lucky for us, Tampa Bay agreed to take Renberg and Dykhuis instead...
Gratton was FAR worse.
I disagree, at least he scored an occassional goal. What does Hatcher do besides get the occassional decent hit. He's slower than slow and basically useless.
the gratton deal was actually a steal for the flyers
flyers signed gratton but instead of giving up the five #1's to tb they instead threw in dykhuis and renberg and ALSO got back from tampa three #1's who turned out to be gangne justin williams and maxim ouellet...it was actually one of the better manuevers clark ever made
whats even funnier is they traded gratton back to tampa for renberg AND daymond langkow
Then there was that Oates trade, big deals for Rathje, Richardson, and whatever other immobile crap he decided to sign, no #1 goalie, unlimited payroll for 10 years, no Cup...why is Clarke still here again?
http://www.philly.com/mld/philly/sports/15822723.htm
QuoteFlyers fire Hitchcock; Clarke resigns
By Tim Panaccio
INQUIRER STAFF WRITER
An era of Philadelphia Flyers hockey has ended.
Flyers general manager Bob Clarke has resigned and coach Ken Hitchcock has been fired.
The club will announce both moves at a 10 a.m. news conference at the Wachovia Center.
Hitchcock had been starting his fourth season and was given a two-year contract extension in training camp while Clarke had been the team's GM for 19 seasons.
The Flyers are 1-6-1, their worst start since 1989-90, the first time the Flyers had fired Clarke. He rejoined the team in June, 1994.
It is believed the club asked for Clarke's resignation Friday night. Earlier Friday, Clarke said he took responsibility for how poorly the club had began this season.
Wow, I didn't think Snider had the balls to pull something like that off. Glad Clarke's finally gone but who replaces Hitch?
I am hearing Mike Keenan rumors..... :paranoid
Quote from: PhillyGirl on October 22, 2006, 09:02:33 AM
I am hearing Mike Keenan rumors..... :paranoid
Oh no....
Keenan is fine for a team that clearly needs to rebuild. He can take his lumps for a while while the team gets itself up to par with the rest of the league and then they can hire a real coach.
Wow.... Good for Snider.
I didn't think Snider has the sack to get tough with his boy Clarkie.
Good. Hate to see Hitch go but he lost that team.
Who replaces Clarkie? Holmgren?
http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/news_story/?ID=181589&hubname=
Holmgren in as GM...John Stevens in as Coach.
Waking up this morning and hearing this news gave me wood.
I think Holmgren is a temporary situation.
Quote from: FFatPatt on October 22, 2006, 10:12:29 AM
Waking up this morning and hearing this news gave me wood.
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Quote from: PhillyGirl on October 22, 2006, 10:20:00 AM
I think Holmgren is a temporary situation.
Snider all but said that and Clarke said Holmgren's been basically running the team as the GM for the past year.
Missed most of the PC....so I didn't hear that
Clarkie said that he would've resigned even if the team was winning. He said he was done and just didn't have it anymore.
So how will Stevens do as the HC? Will it even matter?
Quote from: PhillyGirl on October 22, 2006, 10:25:54 AM
Missed most of the PC....so I didn't hear that
Snider said Stevens is the new coach and they are not evaluating that position anymore and that he's the answer. Regarding Holmgren he said he hasn't had a chance to sit down with him but in the coming weeks he will and made it sound like its a temporary thing. Holmgren was Hartfords GM and was awful.
Quote from: SD_Eagle on October 22, 2006, 10:30:07 AM
Quote from: PhillyGirl on October 22, 2006, 10:25:54 AM
Missed most of the PC....so I didn't hear that
Holmgren was Hartfords GM and was awful.
I know that, but in fairness, he was a tad wet behind the ears at that point.
that said, I don't think he's any better than clarke
I can't stand Clarke but I'd rather have him as the GM than Holmgren. And the fact that Holmgren's been making the moves for the past year doesn't speak much for him.
holy shtein, i can't believe this.
bye bobby.
Everytime someone refers to Ed as 'Mr. Snider' I can't help but to think of the taterskins. Maybe it fits since we were turning into the Skins of the Hockey world. If Shero wasn't dead maybe we'd bring him back as coach.
i don't follow hockey but it seems that hitchcock lost his power when he shaved his mustache...that was a big mistake on his part...and now he's paying for it.
the goal now is to get the number one overall pick...tho there isnt a stud at the top...so top three would do
thus cut all the dead weight and play kids...i dont care if you switch teams with the phantoms do it
hatcher dead
rathje dead
esche more dead
ect...
ect...
ect...
Wormer, he's a dead man! Marmalard, dead! Niedermeyer...DEAD!
LETS DO IT!
This is interesting. But they still don't have a goalie, their defense sucks and their supposed best player is more fragile than Brian Westbrook. Hooray.
why are you breaking down this current team...if anyone including ed snider thinks these moves do anything for the foreseeable fucture then they are mistaken
hockey coaches in general are pretty much worthless...easily the least important coach in any sport...as for the gm change...that wont have any impact for at least two years
Quote from: ice grillin you on October 22, 2006, 11:41:04 AM
why are you breaking down this current team...if anyone including ed snider thinks these moves do anything for the foreseeable fucture then they are mistaken
hockey coaches in general are pretty much worthless...easily the least important coach in any sport...as for the gm change...that wont have any impact for at least two years
hockey coaches have less impact than baseball managers? it's close i guess, but i give it to baseball managers being less impactful
Holmgren is being listed as interm GM, so we'll see who they bring in...Hexy!
as for Forsberg, I would think that they would be able to get at least two young good prospects and draft picks from a contender at the trade deadline.
Maybe Snider will ask Esche to be the GM and then he'll sign Niitymaki to a 15yr deal!!
haha
hockey coaches have less impact than baseball managers? it's close i guess, but i give it to baseball managers being less impactful
no way...baseball managers are very important...infinitely more important than hockey...being a seamhead you of all people should know that
anyone can coach hockey....anyone
i don't think i could
Quote from: SD_Eagle on October 22, 2006, 10:33:49 AM
I can't stand Clarke but I'd rather have him as the GM than Holmgren. And the fact that Holmgren's been making the moves for the past year doesn't speak much for him.
they need a GM that is NOT from the old Broadstreet Bullies mentality. Someone who can recognize the type of players for the "new" NHL caliber of play is what is needed, Now. Clarkie was too set in his old ways, FINALLY Snider recognized that.
As far as Hitch, his specialty was mental prep and strategizing. we need a PLAYERS COACH. Stevens might be it, but we'll see.
Quote from: dis12 on October 22, 2006, 12:13:03 PM
Quote from: SD_Eagle on October 22, 2006, 10:33:49 AM
I can't stand Clarke but I'd rather have him as the GM than Holmgren. And the fact that Holmgren's been making the moves for the past year doesn't speak much for him.
they need a GM that is NOT from the old Broadstreet Bullies mentality. Someone who can recognize the type of players for the "new" NHL caliber of play is what is needed, Now. Clarkie was too set in his old ways, FINALLY Snider recognized that.
As far as Hitch, his specialty was mental prep and strategizing. we need a PLAYERS COACH. Stevens might be it, but we'll see.
I hope you're not telling that to me, since I've been leading the anti-Clarke parade since the late 90's and have said a bajillion times that slow immobile defenses went out in the 80's.
Quote from: SD_Eagle on October 22, 2006, 12:18:07 PM
Quote from: dis12 on October 22, 2006, 12:13:03 PM
Quote from: SD_Eagle on October 22, 2006, 10:33:49 AM
I can't stand Clarke but I'd rather have him as the GM than Holmgren. And the fact that Holmgren's been making the moves for the past year doesn't speak much for him.
they need a GM that is NOT from the old Broadstreet Bullies mentality. Someone who can recognize the type of players for the "new" NHL caliber of play is what is needed, Now. Clarkie was too set in his old ways, FINALLY Snider recognized that.
As far as Hitch, his specialty was mental prep and strategizing. we need a PLAYERS COACH. Stevens might be it, but we'll see.
I hope you're not telling that to me, since I've been leading the anti-Clarke parade since the late 90's and have said a bajillion times that slow immobile defenses went out in the 80's.
I agree with ya. Even Holmgren is not the correct GM for this team! No more old-school Flyers as GM. Even though they they havent been playing for years, they still have old-school habits. This is a new league, new style.
I agree. They need to get out of the "good ole boy" mentality and pull in some new blood.
It will be interesting to see how "temporary" Holmgren is.
Couldn't agree with you more. This team could have had a cup by now if Clarke wasn't such a stubborn imbecile when it came to getting a top notch Goalie. You can get away with a slow D as long as you have a solid Goalie, having neither is a recipe for disaster.
wow
next up...Billy King
Quote from: SunMo on October 22, 2006, 02:30:22 PM
next up...Billy King
I would prefer Dallas Green/David Montgomery.
Get Croce.
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According to WIP, Berube has been named asst. coach of the Flyers. He was an assistant to Stevens when the Phantoms won the Calder Cup in 2005, a team that had 9 of the current flyers
The Chief isn't a Hoyda - I'm optimistic with Stevens, but hoping Clarke hasn't ruined the personel of this team beyond repair. This team is in bad shape. They should really consider buying out some deals once the season is over.
I dont believe buyouts are available anymore. I do like that stevens has already come out blasting the team for not sticking up for forsberg when peters cheapshotted him last week. Adding the Chief to the mix means the team may suck, but at least you'll see young physical fast play. Im all for if teh team doesnt improve, selling off forsberg for picks/prospects, same goes for guys like knuble, sandersson, sami. Basically keep the young talent and gain more from other teams at the deadline.
Quote from: Seabiscuit36 on October 23, 2006, 04:09:52 PM
I dont believe buyouts are available anymore.
I'm pretty sure they are but I think the team takes a cap hit. I'll have to do some research or maybe someone like Ed will come along....
Quote from: Seabiscuit36 on October 23, 2006, 04:09:52 PM
I dont believe buyouts are available anymore. I do like that stevens has already come out blasting the team for not sticking up for forsberg when peters cheapshotted him last week. Adding the Chief to the mix means the team may suck, but at least you'll see young physical fast play. Im all for if teh team doesnt improve, selling off forsberg for picks/prospects, same goes for guys like knuble, sandersson, sami. Basically keep the young talent and gain more from other teams at the deadline.
not sure about Berube (may still have Broadstreet Bullies mentality). As far as unloading the team to reload, I'm all for it...to a point. I'd luv to have a bunch of Sami Kapanen-type players.
for those that may be thinking Primeau behind the bench, it's still too early, he needs to get some coach seasoning.
Didn't see it mentioned, but with Berube moving up from the Phantoms, Kjell Samuelsson takes over as the Phantoms head coach...
I also noticed Richards and Knuble seem glad that Hitch is gone (http://philadelphia.comcastsportsnet.com/media/video/flyers/102306-Richards_Knuble.wmv), while Gagne made a few comments about young players not being able to play for Hitch (http://www.phillyburbs.com/pb-dyn/news/101-10242006-731368.html)...
Flyers win! 3-2 OT/Shootout. For whatever reason Atlanta decided to pull Hedberg who played all game for their backup during the shootout. Regardless, its a W. farg you Clarke.
Like I've been saying for years, they needed to fire the head coach.
or the Goalie... Richards won that game for the Flyers, he was everywhere. Forsberg seemed really energized and wanted the win. They really need to practice shooting the puck on net
hopefully richards is set free by stevens
because richards = gawd
im actually looking forward to going to the game tomorrow nite
They looked like a different team last night. I want to see Sandersson play with the rest of the team and not a healthy scratch but Stevens sat him to get energy from Grant last night.
yeah sanderson HAS to play
4-1 Penguins, 17 minutes left in the 2nd. Niittymaki pulled...
Now 5-1 with 12 minutes left. Crosby has a hat trick. Timeout Flyers...
If Crosby played the Flyers every game, he might actually have a case for not being a bust...
6-1 now. :-\
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on October 28, 2006, 08:31:52 PM
6-1 now. :-\
I went grocery shopping for my wife tonight, listening to the game on XM radio. When I went into the store, it was 2-1. When I came out, it was 6-1.
The Flyers suck this year. :-\
Stanley. Cup.
Believe or leave. Go Flyers. I pledge my undenying support to Coach Murray Cashman Neilson Ramsay Barber Hitchcock Stevens and Mr. Snyder.
Quote from: MDS on October 28, 2006, 09:25:17 PM
Believe or leave. Go Flyers. I pledge my undenying support to Coach Murray Cashman Neilson Ramsay Barber Hitchcock Stevens and Mr. Snyder.
Bring back Shero. Dig 'im up!
Get Jakub Voracek!
...too soon for a Flyers offseason thread?
Knuble out 2 weeks with a broken finger
Quote from: BigEd76 on October 29, 2006, 07:37:21 PM
Knuble out 2 weeks with a broken finger
Ah. So what stiff replaces him?
http://www.thefourthperiod.com/news/phi061029.html
cool, we beat a team that hasn't scored in 4 games.
QuoteFlyers fans unofficially set a Guinness world record by getting 9,315 fans to wear orange wigs during the game, breaking the old mark of 6,213 set in a Detroit Pistons game in 2004. "It's a step in the right direction," said Flyers coach John Stevens
Detroit's having a rough week...first the World Series, then the 2nd most murder rate behind St. Louis, now this.
The Flyers finally won something. Yay.
Quote from: BigEd76 on October 30, 2006, 09:34:10 PM
cool, we beat a team that hasn't scored in 4 games.
Look on the bright side.......if it were the Eagles going up against a team that hadn't scored their last 4 games, they would undoubtedly put up at least 50 against us.
Flyers offer GM job to Colin Campbell (http://tsn.ca/nhl/news_story/?ID=182521&hubname=)
hmmm
someone who knows something about hockey needs to tell me who he is.
Isn't he the guy who farged up the Rangers?
Inky:
QuoteThere are lots of rumors going around that Simon Gagne will be traded, but our sources say there is no evidence the Flyers are moving him
Quote from: L-ong-B-each-I-ggle on November 01, 2006, 02:14:17 AM
someone who knows something about hockey needs to tell me who he is.
He was an assistant coach on the 93-94 Rangers Cup team then took over for 3 years after Keenan was fired. His 96-97 team was knocked out by the Flyers in the Eastern finals. After he was fired, he went to the NHL front office and has been there ever since....
Gagne wont go anywhere till the trade deadline if he does get moved. At that point i hope they start a firesale if this team doesnt shape up.
Supposedly Tim P is saying Cambell turned down the job. :-D
Best sports town in America.
Colin Campbell decides Flyers GM job not right at this time
PIERRE LEBRUN
November 1, 2006
TORONTO (CP) - Colin Campbell is staying put.
The NHL's senior executive vice-president and director of hockey operations says he had talks with Philadelphia Flyers owner Ed Snider about the GM job but decided the time wasn't right.
"We had discussions earlier on, not recently, after they decided to make changes there," Campbell told The Canadian Press on Wednesday. "Mr. Snider and myself work closely together with the competition committee. We did discuss the situation with his team after Bob Clarke decided to step down.
"But it wasn't the right thing for me personally for that discussion to continue at this particular time."
Paul Holmgren is the interim Flyers GM. Reached by The Canadian Press on Tuesday night, Holmgren was not aware of Snider approaching Campbell for the GM job. Clarke also told CP on Wednesday morning that he was unaware of the recent developments.
"Colin Campbell and I have been friends for a very long time and we both have worked closely together on the NHL's competition committee," Snider said Wednesday in a statement released by the NHL club. "When Bob Clarke announced his resignation on Oct. 22, I contacted Colin and we had a discussion about the general manager position.
"Colin recently contacted me to inform me that he appreciated our conversation, but at this time he did not want to be a candidate for the position. Paul Holmgren will continue to be the interim general manager. There will be no other statements concerning this issue."
Hitch is back :D
As a scout per philly.com
only until Gretzky fully realizes he sucks at coaching and leaves, then Hitch will take over in Phoenix, where he'll reunite with JR and the other 24 ex-Flyers...
Quote from: Seabiscuit36 on November 01, 2006, 06:03:44 PM
Hitch is back :D
As a scout per philly.com
The coaching carousel works very oddly in the NHL.
It's not really that odd. If you have ever been a coach, someone will hire you to be a coach again. If you sucked, they will call you a 'player's coach'. If you were passable, you'll have a 'proven track record'. If you were good you will be brought in to 'get the team over the hump'.
Hitch was brought in to Philly to get the team over the hump. farg Hitch.
Ken Hitchcock was hired as a pro scout by the Philadelphia Flyers on Wednesday, less than two weeks after they fired him as their head coach. http://sports.espn.go.com/nhl/news/story?id=2646501
Quote from: dis12 on November 02, 2006, 03:31:20 PM
Ken Hitchcock was hired as a pro scout by the Philadelphia Flyers on Wednesday, less than two weeks after they fired him as their head coach. http://sports.espn.go.com/nhl/news/story?id=2646501
Thanks for the revelation. I had no idea.
Quote from: FFatPatt on November 02, 2006, 03:34:19 PM
Quote from: dis12 on November 02, 2006, 03:31:20 PM
Ken Hitchcock was hired as a pro scout by the Philadelphia Flyers on Wednesday, less than two weeks after they fired him as their head coach. http://sports.espn.go.com/nhl/news/story?id=2646501
Thanks for the revelation. I had no idea.
I may be slooooow, but I get the message.
Lars Jonsson and Alexander Picard sent down to the Phantoms. Jonsson's ankle was still bothersome, and Picard just sent down because he has a 2 way contract and would get more playing time.
oh no, more Freddie Meyer ....and Hatcher.
10th regular season loss in a row to Tampa Bay >:(
Maybe but you gotta love this, though...
Quote15:50 Peter Forsberg: 2 Minutes for Unsportsmanlike Conduct
15:50 Peter Forsberg: 2 Minutes for High-sticking Nolan Pratt
15:50 Peter Forsberg: 10 Minutes for Misconduct Nolan Pratt
:-D :yay
He had two penalties called on him leading up to that, then he elbowed Pratt in the head behind the net to get kicked out...
calder got his first point of the season last night
and pitkanen was a MINUS 5!!!
brutal pathetic embarrassing disgraceful # 1 overall pick
The newspapers (Sheridan) and WIP were making a stink about Forsberg jettin before talking to reporters last night. Sheridan wants him removed as captain.
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on November 03, 2006, 09:12:03 AM
The newspapers (Sheridan) and WIP were making a stink about Forsberg jettin before talking to reporters last night. Sheridan wants him removed as captain.
I wanna be removed as a season ticket holder.
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on November 03, 2006, 09:12:03 AM
The newspapers (Sheridan) and WIP were making a stink about Forsberg jettin before talking to reporters last night. Sheridan wants him removed as captain.
i find it funny when these Hoyda sports writes get all pissy because a player wont talk to them
I do too.
WIP is famous for it. Especially Angelo. If someone stiffs him, he's a hater for life. He used to swing from Bowa's sack until larry backed out of an interview once. It was all over after that.
He had Brodrick Bunkley as his weasel of the week today because BB said "next question" when asked a question. They hide behind the fans as a reason to bash the athletes. "not talking to us is like not talking to the fans and we're all about the fans!"
Sheridan wants Forsberg removed as Captain? :-D
Someone should remove that four-eyed bitch from the planet.
:fire (http://www.philly.com/images/philly/philly/10647/thumb_113368456475.jpg)
If Andy Reid tells him to....
Trade Rumor: Heard Macnow lastnight say there were a ton of scouts at the game and that a possible Umberger for Roman Hamrlik swap might be in the works.
Quote from: SD_Eagle on November 03, 2006, 01:36:35 PM
Trade Rumor: Heard Macnow lastnight say there were a ton of scouts at the game and that a possible Umberger for Roman Hamrlik swap might be in the works.
that should NEVER be allowed to happen. NO MORE TRADING AWAY YOUTH!
Hamrlik is 32 yr old D-man, that is a career
minus-95 (although most of that was his early years).
i hear what youre saying and i would not do that either but umberger is worthless in this league...i know he had a good year last year but hes not what they need....they need speed and creativity....not plodding guys who score by going to the net
Quote from: ice grillin you on November 03, 2006, 02:14:17 PM
i hear what youre saying and i would not do that either but umberger is worthless in this league...i know he had a good year last year but hes not what they need....they need speed and creativity....not plodding guys who score by going to the net
Umberger will be a quality player for this team, when they team starts playing/adapting to "new NHL" hockey.
The real problems are that while they get lots of shots (and not so many by going to the net as you believe), they are not quality shots. They make waaaaay too many open ice mistakes, and can NOT stop speedy/quick-transition opponents. They need quicker/more decisive D-men...and wings that routinely come back on defense.
As far as creativity, it's non-existant on this team....and neither is passion.
that being said, care to buy some tickets?
i dont know who either guy is, but if one of them is good at goalie they should/nt do it
Hamrlik was a #1 overall pick.....in 1992
Quote from: BigEd76 on November 03, 2006, 06:02:16 PM
Hamrlik was a #1 overall pick.....in 1992
and 14 years later that impresses.........NO ONE.
Damn this team is horrible. :-\
They said on WIP that a deal with Calgary for Iginla is being discussed.
It wont happen, and if it does, i think the flyers will get raped
They said it was close, but the Flames want that one rookie who's name I don't know how to spell. The Flyers don't want to give him up. His name begins with an S I believe.
I think you mean Giroux
hamerlik was the shtein in nhl 94 for genesis.
i seriously had no idea he was still in the league.
Quote from: King Cole on November 04, 2006, 11:03:52 PM
They said on WIP that a deal with Calgary for Iginla is being discussed.
He'd be an instant improvement and would make this team watchable again. Still, until they get a semblance of mobility from their defense units this team will fail to make the playoffs - as I predicted.
I predicted Hatcher would be a much better player than last year :-D
Quote from: Seabiscuit36 on November 06, 2006, 03:36:17 PM
I predicted Hatcher would be a much better player than last year :-D
Oh how wrong we all were
I said it before in this thread and I'll say it again, Hatcher was the worst F/A signing in Flyers history, even worse than Gratton.
Quote from: SD_Eagle on November 06, 2006, 03:56:19 PM
I said it before in this thread and I'll say it again, Hatcher was the worst F/A signing in Flyers history, even worse than Gratton.
the 2002 acquisition of Adam Oates, where we gave up Maxime Ouellet (G), 2002
1st Rounder, 2002
2nd Rounder, 2002
3rd Rounder. Oates was 39 yrs old at the time and only payed 14 games as a Flyer...what a shtein move by Clarke!
again
gratton was a trade and a steal at that....gagne justin williams gratton and maxime ouellet for renberg and dykhuis
if you wanna say he was one of the most overpaid flyers ever then fine...but his aquisition was pure genius
and the all-time topper...In 1991, the Flyers traded Peter Forsberg, Ron Hextall, Chris Simon, Mike Ricci, Kerry Huffman, Steve Duchense, a 1st round pick (later became Jocelyn Thibault), and 15 million dollars to the Quebec Nordiques for Eric Lindros.
OH THE AGONY!
Quote from: ice grillin you on November 06, 2006, 04:08:32 PM
again
gratton was a trade and a steal at that....gagne justin williams gratton and maxime ouellet for renberg and dykhuis
if you wanna say he was one of the most overpaid flyers ever then fine...but his aquisition was pure genius
When we originally signed Gratton we were going to have to either A) give up 5 1st round picks or B) work out a trade with Tampa. Since the contract was so heavily frontloaded there was no way Tampa was going to match the offer, so we sent them Renberg. So it was sort of a trade but I always considered it an F/A signing. Not sure how we ended up with Gagne, Williams etc. in that deal (I was deployed) so maybe you can refresh my memory.
The Oates deal was a trade but that was Clarke's worst. The Lindros deal was on Russ Farwell's watch and at the time he was being hailed as the next great one so that trade at the time looked like a no-brainer.
But regardless of all that, Hatcher is the most useless player on the team. He's Pat Burrell minus the occassional HR.
you can't hate them going all out for Lindros, like SD said, he was supposed to follow in the steps of Lemiuex, Gretzgey, etc
When we originally signed Gratton we were going to have to either A) give up 5 1st round picks or B) work out a trade with Tampa. Since the contract was so heavily frontloaded there was no way Tampa was going to match the offer, so we sent them Renberg.
renberg and dykhuis for gratton and three #1's who turned out to be gagne williams and ouellet
Quote from: ice grillin you on November 06, 2006, 04:26:49 PM
renberg and dykhuis for gratton and three #1's who turned out to be gagne williams and ouellet
and yet, they managed to win a Stanley Cup before the Flyers, that kinda makes me want to cry
I miss Shjon Podein. Mostly because of the way he spelled his name.
Quote from: FFatPatt on November 06, 2006, 04:39:35 PM
I miss Shjon Podein. Mostly because of the way he spelled his name.
His Father wanted to name him 'Wolfgang'...true story. I have an autographed stick of his, figure I'll wait till he's inducted into the Hockey HOF before I sell it.
Quote from: ice grillin you on November 06, 2006, 04:26:49 PM
When we originally signed Gratton we were going to have to either A) give up 5 1st round picks or B) work out a trade with Tampa. Since the contract was so heavily frontloaded there was no way Tampa was going to match the offer, so we sent them Renberg.
renberg and dykhuis for gratton and three #1's who turned out to be gagne williams and ouellet
Tampa gave us 3 #1's along with Gratton? Are you sure about that? I remember trading Gratton back to the Lightning for Renberg back and trading Svoboda to them for Dykhuis (another boneheaded move)
Quote from: FFatPatt on November 06, 2006, 04:39:35 PM
I miss Shjon Podein. Mostly because of the way he spelled his name.
I miss not having a farging Cup in Philly in over 30 years!
Calder Cup doesn't count...sorry Phantoms.
Tampa gave us 3 #1's along with Gratton?
yes...instead of the 5 ones...tampa wanted some players back...so after the flyers were awarded gratton they worked out a trade instead of tampa getting all the numbers ones
Quote from: ice grillin you on November 06, 2006, 04:55:52 PM
Tampa gave us 3 #1's along with Gratton?
yes...instead of the 5 ones...tampa wanted some players back...so after the flyers were awarded gratton they worked out a trade instead of tampa getting all the numbers ones
Were they straight up picks or did we just swap 1st rounders with them?
straight picks
Here's a complete history of Flyers trades. (http://www.flyershistory.com/cgi-bin/trade.cgi) Brings back some memories.
Hatcher is a minus 15 this season.
here's an awesome one...
Quote16-Dec-03 Mike Comrie from Edmonton Oilers for Jeff Woywitka, 2004 1st Rounder (Robbie Schremp) & 2005 3rd Rounder (Danny Syvret)
I just googled Woywitka's name to see what he's done so far in his career. He played 26 games for the Blues last season had 2 assists and was a minus 12. Can't find him on their roster for this season. I thought he'd turn into a decent pro, he showed a lot of promise in the minors.
Whatever happened to Bruce Hoffort?
4-1 loss in Toronto
3-10-1 is the worst start in franchise history
Good thing on 20,000 people give a shtein, otherwise things could get ugly.
Nitty sucks.
START ESCHE!
Everyone sucks.
START NO ONE!
Good god.... :puke
3-10-1 is the worst start in franchise history
3-9-1 was too
Any NHL draftnics know if anyone of substance is coming out this year? If there's someone decent I'll be rooting to lose the remaining games. Also, get what you can for Forsberg, be it a prospect, some picks, or a steady defenseman.
its supposed to be a very deep draft but is lacking in the big time top end talent that could be found in the last few years
theres no crosby or anything close to him in this years draft
jeff carter out for at least six weeks with a broken leg
Quote from: ice grillin you on November 07, 2006, 04:24:09 PM
jeff carter out for at least six weeks with a broken leg
Pile it on.
By january, it'll be like hockey is in another lockout year. Good.
Quote from: MDS on November 07, 2006, 05:04:00 PM
By the end of this month, it'll be like hockey is in another lockout year. Good.
Yes.
Esche sucks worse than the NHL.
3-1 loss to the Isles. Riding a 4 game losing streak. I'm rooting for the #1 overall pick at this point. Trade Forsberg etc.
Quote from: SD_Eagle on November 07, 2006, 01:17:48 PM
Any NHL draftnics know if anyone of substance is coming out this year? If there's someone decent I'll be rooting to lose the remaining games. Also, get what you can for Forsberg, be it a prospect, some picks, or a steady defenseman.
Quote from: BigEd76 on October 29, 2006, 12:14:11 PM
Get Jakub Voracek!
Probably the weakest draft since 1996...
a much better showing against Buffalo tonight...although same result, a loss, albeit an OT loss.
there were 3 fights. so maybe there is life in Philly hockey????
amazingly, they scored 4 goals...free Chik-Fil-A :P
Fedoruk is back :yay
4th rd pick + future considerations to the Ducks
they gave up a 4th round pick to get a less fast Ben Eager?
Quote from: BigEd76 on November 13, 2006, 02:42:22 PM
Fedoruk is back :yay
4th rd pick + future considerations to the Ducks
Holmgrem's first move...meh.
Quote from: SunMo on November 13, 2006, 02:46:45 PM
they gave up a 4th round pick to get a less fast Ben Eager?
Can it possibly make the team worse?
99 times out of 100 you ask that question, i say no. but this is the one time.
that being said...hopefully he arrives in Pittsburgh tonight so he can cave Crosby's face in. because we all know Hatcher won't do it, no matter how many times he makes him look silly.
They got a 2nd-rd pick for him a few years ago, so they totally ripped off Anaheim...yeah....
Problem is Fridge got his face caved in a month ago by Boogard in Minnesota. I thought he was out for the rest of the year. Personally i think its a waste. I loved the fridge but i dont think a guy who's orbital bone is broken for a second time is a good enforcer. You have guys like Grant, Cote(when healthy) in the system who are younger.
Pittsburgh's scored all three goals. Luckily for the Flyers, one in their own net.
This team is hot garbage. Not just bad - boringly bad.
Malkin scores with 2 minutes left. Flyers lose 3-2.
farging crosby is such a Hoyda farging player
This is a terrible, terrible team. End it.
Quote from: SD_Eagle on October 17, 2006, 08:38:57 PM
6-0
This team is an utter embarassment. No way they make the playoffs this year. Clarke needs to go.
Quote from: SD_Eagle on October 17, 2006, 08:44:35 PM
Quote from: Bunkley78 on October 17, 2006, 08:39:27 PM
Care to wager on that SD?
I wrote this in the offseason thread after I saw them get destroyed in a pre-season game:
QuoteI wouldn't be so down on them if they either had: A) A speedy defense capable of being effective in todays NHL or B) A good goalie.
For those two reasons alone, I can't see us finishing as anything other than a bottom seed or out of the playoffs altogether.
So yeah, I'll stick to my guns. Pick your poison, be it cash or something else. This team ain't making the playoffs.
I know we never finalized the bet but I'll understand if you want to concede, I can be merciful.
heres fedoruk gettin owned by boogard
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CpPUiK0GR_E
Quote from: ice grillin you on November 14, 2006, 04:21:10 PM
heres fedoruk gettin owned by boogard
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CpPUiK0GR_E
thanks! now a feel a lot better about giving up a 4th rounder for the Fridge.
first round draft picks arent worth much in the nhl much less fourth rounders....tho a 4th rounder still might be worth more than that scab
Quote from: ice grillin you on November 15, 2006, 07:56:49 AM
first round draft picks arent worth much in the nhl much less fourth rounders....tho a 4th rounder still might be worth more than that scab
y'know, I wouldn't mind the Flyers bring back every fighter/physical player they ever had (kinda like in Slap Shot), just to resurge the crowd.
IN
WAR DAVE BROWN!
Forsberg is playing tonight.
Quote from: Seabiscuit36 on November 15, 2006, 09:13:40 PM
Forsberg is playing tonight.
Great! Now they'll only lose 7-2!
7 minutes left in the 1st period
3-1 Flyers :sly
5-2 1:10 left in the first
Somebody must have slipped Giguere a mickey.
7-3 wtf
Flyers win 7-4 :yay
At LA on Thursday night
its called a mirage
Quote from: BigEd76 on November 16, 2006, 12:42:01 AM
Flyers win 7-4 :yay
At LA on Thursday night
whew! and I thought they wouldn't make the playoffs. :-X
Sanderson scores 1-0 Flyers. They're playing much better hockey now. Still won't make the playoffs, though.
3-1 Kings
uh...I mean 4-3 Flyers :paranoid
Its now a final, 4-3. Thanks to Comcast for having techinical difficulties the last minute of play crushing what little joy I've had from this season.
Stanley. Cup.
It's Comcastic!
Good to "see" the Flyers come of the schnied a little bit.
I have to say im impressed with going down in the third and battling back.
last two games
blow out in the first
comeback in the third
this team can do everything!!
Quote from: ice grillin you on November 17, 2006, 08:24:10 AM
last two games
blow out in the first
comeback in the third
this team can do everything!!
damn! first back-2-back win all season. the value of my season tix just went up 100%
Rumor on kings message board is there were 16 scouts at last nights game.
Quote from: Seabiscuit36 on November 17, 2006, 10:50:39 AM
Rumor on kings message board is there were 16 scouts at last nights game.
cookie-selling girl scouts?
John Stevens gets a 2 yr extension through the 2007-2008 season from the flyers. :)
retarded.
4th loss of the year to the Penguins already :-D
Crosby owns the Flyers.
Sanderson has been playing good hockey lately.
with all the problems theyve had with coaches over the last 8-9 years why would they extend a guy who has coached 15 games in his life....idiots
Who knows how reliable this is;
http://www.hadleyonsports.com/newsletter.php?article_id=389
QuoteJohn Hadley reports Philadelphia Flyers forward Peter Forsberg will be dealt to either San Jose or Colorado within the next 24 hours.
hopefully they can pull some young players from either team, not sure why San Jose would want him though, they have a pretty nice team already and he's not the same player
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on November 21, 2006, 03:06:14 PM
Who knows how reliable this is;
http://www.hadleyonsports.com/newsletter.php?article_id=389
QuoteJohn Hadley reports Philadelphia Flyers forward Peter Forsberg will be dealt to either San Jose or Colorado within the next 24 hours.
I semi-hope that is true. And I say 'semi' because it's Holmgren making the deal.
if anyone cares...
QuotePhiladelphia Flyers GM Paul Holmgren is facing similar problems, but now he's also got to worry about the health and contract status of team captain Peter Forsberg.
Holmgren and his employers have expressed the intent to re-sign Forsberg, but there's growing speculation the talented Swede might seek a trade by the deadline if the club hasn't climbed back into postseason contention.
Meanwhile, Forsberg continues to be plagued by foot problems. He recently was fitted out for a brace on his right foot, and while he's not expected to miss any playing time it has the potential to be a problem over the grind of a long season.
That and his UFA status next summer could make Forsberg a tough sell if Holmgren were to shop him at some point.
A recent report in the Denver Post suggests the Colorado Avalanche might become active in the trade market.
Avs GM Francois Giguere has several good young players currently on the roster, one of which could be shopped for more experienced depth. The report suggested defenseman John-Michael Liles as a potential candidate to land the Avs either a power forward or a defensive blueliner.
Trading Forsberg would be good and although he isn't the player he once was, he would help a whole lot of teams who are on the cusp and just need some talented veteran leadership on the ice.
Good strategy. Pump him up in case NHL GM's do their research on :CF.
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on November 21, 2006, 03:06:14 PM
Who knows how reliable this is;
http://www.hadleyonsports.com/newsletter.php?article_id=389
QuoteJohn Hadley reports Philadelphia Flyers forward Peter Forsberg will be dealt to either San Jose or Colorado within the next 24 hours.
Hadley is a blow hard St. Louis sports journalist who makes lots and lots of noise, and is right about 15 - 20% of the time with his predictions. He has some sources, and reports mostly on leaks, but just because a rumor isleaked doesn't mean it will come true.
1 in 5 chance this actually happens as he says.
Columbus hired Hitchcock for head coach. His first game is Friday....here.... :paranoid
Facing Ottawa tonight. No Forsberg or Rathje...
Columbus hired Hitchcock for head coach. His first game is Friday....here....
dont know if he will stick to it but hes said that he will not coach until after the flyers game out of respect to the organization
didnt they just hire him as a scout?
2-2 looks like it might be going into OT.
Lost in OT 3-2. Suck.
had a 2-0 lead, blew that, then lost with :20 left in OT. Damn they suck...
Why the hell are you idiots watching this? Did you all watch the 97 Phillies? This is worse.
Quote from: MDS on November 22, 2006, 09:44:00 PM
Why the hell are you idiots watching this?
Because it's in HD
Quote from: Father Demon on November 21, 2006, 10:31:27 PM
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on November 21, 2006, 03:06:14 PM
Who knows how reliable this is;
http://www.hadleyonsports.com/newsletter.php?article_id=389
QuoteJohn Hadley reports Philadelphia Flyers forward Peter Forsberg will be dealt to either San Jose or Colorado within the next 24 hours.
Hadley is a blow hard St. Louis sports journalist who makes lots and lots of noise, and is right about 15 - 20% of the time with his predictions. He has some sources, and reports mostly on leaks, but just because a rumor isleaked doesn't mean it will come true.
1 in 5 chance this actually happens as he says.
Hadley just posted this in his latest newsletter:
Quote
*Along those lines, I apologize for completely missing on my report that Peter Forsberg would be traded within 24 hours. I apologize to my readers and various sites like Spector's and Eklund that apparently trust my reports sufficiently enough to post on their respective sites. My source was very legit... very legit, however was wrong... hence I was wrong... that's a big miss (now I know how Chris Duncan felt tracking fly balls). My bad!
:-D Eskin would just never mention it again, and if someone called him out, He's throw out the super smart "NITWIT" and hangup on them.
Flyers up 2-1 (Forsberg, Myers) over the Hitchcocks midway through the second.
the gawd with his first goal in 40 games
Turns out to be the game winner. 3-2.
did you see it sd?
i listened to it at work and it sounded like nitty cent stood on head
Yeah, Nitty played great. The second goal scored wasn't his fault. Nash took the feed from the other side of the net and Rathje stood there like a moron while he shot it into a wide open net.
yeah we beat the Habs 4-2. Gagne with 2 goals. yeah.
yeah we beat the Habs 4-2. Gagne with 2 goals
and mcnabbmvp with 30 saves!!
Rumor is Calder is traded by the end of the week. Forsberg rumors again to Colorado/Sanjose :paranoid
Quote from: Seabiscuit36 on November 27, 2006, 10:34:34 AM
Rumor is Calder is traded by the end of the week. Forsberg rumors again to Colorado/Sanjose :paranoid
Where are these rumors stemming from?
TSN in canada. Who knows if it means anything but if they can get his money off the books and get value for him its worth it.
QuoteFlyers find fix for Forsberg's skate boot
By Tim Panaccio
INQUIRER STAFF WRITER
The continuing saga of Peter Forsberg's right skate boot appears to have taken a positive turn.
Flyers assistant equipment manager, Harry Bricker, who works arduously on making skates perfect, seems to have found the right foam insert and is sending a sample, right skate boot to Bauer to mass produce for Forsberg.
"We just found some foam and added it to the skate... and then we took some things out of the back of the skate boot," Bricker said. "We opened up the back of the skate and added this foam to hold his ankle in there."
Bricker says that foam should last without having to be replaced.
"Once we get it into all his skates, it's permanent," he said.
The Bauer skates that Forsberg wears cost $439 a pair. The new design might raise the price, but that seems a small price to pay if he can skate the way he feels he should and be comfortable.
How much did Forsberg pay Bricker, who worked long hours on Thanksgiving Day to prepare the new insert?
"You don't want to know," Forsberg said, laughing. "He's been great. We've been working hard at it. We've been working on it a long time. He has not given up. He's trying to find a solution and he's been great."
Forsberg says he will not rest until the problem has been solved, until he can get multiple practices and games with the new boot, and still feel as comfortable as he does right now.
His teammates were stunned to see him playing on Friday against Columbus and Saturday in New York as he told them he would skip both games until the skate issue was resolved. Bricker solved it late Thanksgiving afternoon.
Forsberg played well in both games.
"Since that day, I don't know if he found a solution with the skate, but he looks lot better and playing a lot better," Simon Gagne said. "Maybe it's a magic skate. It was Thanksgiving. Maybe some one came late one night and gave him a little gift or something."
Said coach John Stevens: "He looks less frustrated right now. Seems like each day, it becomes less and less of an issue. He seemed excited that they were find a solution."
Stanley Cup!
The Philadelphia Flyers rewarded forward Mike Knuble with a two-year, US$5.6-million contract extension on Wednesday. Financial terms were not disclosed.
Good deal for the flyers. I really like Knuble. :yay
extending old slow guys is the direction to take in the nhl
So, Bobby Clarke's still calling the shots, then?
LUNACY!
Oh, wait... wrong thread. n/m
What's wrong with that deal? He was going to be a FA after the season and he's one of the few guys that actually scored a goal this year....
I like the deal. He's not fast but knows his role, is going to score 25-30 goals, and if they dont sign and trade him, Forsberg said reupping Gagne helped, he wanted Knuble reupped also.
Quote from: BigEd76 on November 29, 2006, 04:31:38 PM
What's wrong with that deal? He was going to be a FA after the season and he's one of the few guys that actually scored a goal this year....
The deal's fine, Ed. I was busting IGY's crackers.
Knuble just scored...1-0
Flyers were down 2-1 with 5 minutes left in the 3rd then Umberger scored to tie it. Then Rathje whiffed on a pass out of his own zone, the Predators stole it and scored. Flyers lose 3-2.
Quote from: SD_Eagle on November 29, 2006, 09:35:23 PM
Flyers were down 2-1 with 5 minutes left in the 3rd then Umberger scored to tie it. Then Rathje whiffed on a pass out of his own zone, the Predators stole it and scored. Flyers lose 3-2.
I would say they choked, but they're just a bad team. Hard to get too upset.
Kind of like the Eagles right now.
(November 29) - The Philadelphia Flyers announced that they have recalled 5'11", 180-pound goaltender Martin Houle (HOOL) from their American Hockey League affiliate, the Philadelphia Phantoms, according to General Manager Paul Holmgren. Houle has been assigned uniform number #35.
In addition, the team announced that goaltender Robert Esche today underwent successful surgery to repair his adductor muscle and will be out of action for two to four weeks.
Rathje needs to be put down, every time he touched the puck after flubbing it in the corner and setting up the Preds goal he was booed mercilessly. I loved it. Hopefully Snider realizes he sucks, his back isnt repairable and he needs to be sent down or retire.
His quotes in the paper seemed like he was crying about getting booed.
Quote"You make a play like that, you lose a game, there is nothing you can do," Rathje said. "It's funny how that happens when guys are working hard every night. You make a mistake like that and people get upset.
"I went to make a pass to Randy [Jones] and it went off my stick. I don't know how it happened. It ain't the first time it's happened to me... . You want to make good plays at the end of the game. Guys throw interceptions [that are returned] for touchdowns. It happens. You live with it."
Put his ass on waivers.
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on November 30, 2006, 09:46:40 AM
His quotes in the paper seemed like he was crying about getting booed.
Quote"You make a play like that, you lose a game, there is nothing you can do," Rathje said. "It's funny how that happens when guys are working hard every night. You make a mistake like that and people get upset.
"I went to make a pass to Randy [Jones] and it went off my stick. I don't know how it happened. It ain't the first time it's happened to me... . You want to make good plays at the end of the game. Guys throw interceptions [that are returned] for touchdowns. It happens. You live with it."
Put his ass on waivers.
after this season (unfortunately, not sooner), we can say goodbye to Hatch and Rathje, and their contracts. THEN, we can start rebuilding this team.
after this season (unfortunately, not sooner), we can say goodbye to Hatch and Rathje, and their contracts
hather is signed thru 08-09
rathje 09-10
Quote from: ice grillin you on November 30, 2006, 10:07:35 AM
after this season (unfortunately, not sooner), we can say goodbye to Hatch and Rathje, and their contracts
hather is signed thru 08-09
rathje 09-10
my bad. I thought this was their last year of them being a road bump in Philly.
Flyers beat the Isles 3-2. Nitty with 39 saves.
Fedoruk, wearing a cage over his helmet, made his first shift as a Flyer....and scored 5 seconds into it.... :yay
Flyers get robbed of a gift-wrapped win. Nitty was intefered clearly on a late goal by the Devils but they counted it. Nitty wasn't knocked down until the puck went in, but was clearly interfered as the puck was in the air.
Oh well the Devils aren't doing anything this year anyway. Let them have their "win."
QuoteUpdated: Dec. 4, 2006, 2:36 PM ET
Next role for Clarke: Flyers' senior vice president
Associated Press
PHILADELPHIA -- Bob Clarke returned to the Philadelphia Flyers as a senior vice president Monday, more than six weeks after he quit as the team's general manager because of burnout.
"Bob's experience as a player and general manager over the last 37 years is invaluable," Flyers GM Paul Holmgren said.
"This is a way to keep Clarkie involved in the organization and utilize the knowledge that he has gained over the years," he added. "He is a tremendous resource that we can call upon. We should take advantage of that and Bob is certainly willing to help out the organization any way that he can."
Clarke was Philadelphia's general manager from 1984-90 and again from 1994 until Oct. 22, when he resigned with the Flyers off to a 1-6-1 start. Clarke said he had grown tired of the general manager's duties and the hours.
"I'm really glad that I'm still associated with Paul and the team," Clarke said. "It was a tough decision [to resign] but it was the right decision. But I don't want to be left out of the team. Whatever Paul sees me as, whether it's scouting or he wants my opinion, then I'll offer it. I'm not there to do someone else's job. I'm just there if Paul sees a way I can help."
As general manager, Clarke never matched the success he had as a Hall of Fame player when he led the Flyers to Stanley Cup championships in the 1973-74 and 1974-75 seasons.
Clarke finished his career as the Flyers' all-time leading scorer with 1,210 points (358 goals and 852 assists) in 1,144 games over 15 seasons.
As a senior vice president, Clarke will focus mostly on monitoring the Flyers' player-development program.
"The fun of watching the game is still there for me," Clarke said.
Quote from: King Cole on December 02, 2006, 10:17:51 PM
Flyers get robbed of a gift-wrapped win. Nitty was intefered clearly on a late goal by the Devils but they counted it. Nitty wasn't knocked down until the puck went in, but was clearly interfered as the puck was in the air.
Oh well the Devils aren't doing anything this year anyway. Let them have their "win."
He was out of the crease, it was his own fault. Giving up a shorthanded goal with 2 minutes left with the game on the line is what I've come to expect from this team. They blow.
Forsberg to miss 4 games because of a faulty skate boot. (http://www.philly.com/mld/philly/sports/16198750.htm) Not that it matters because they suck so bad.
And for those following along, they got shutout tonight by the Devils 2-0
im following
Quote from: ice grillin you on December 09, 2006, 11:02:16 AM
im following
I'll be at the Wac tonight (need at least one visit to the tailgate parking lot this week).
QuoteFlyers waive Nedved again
By Tim Panaccio
INQUIRER STAFF WRITER
These days, you have to sift through the rubble to find bits and pieces of good news, bad news, and interesting news when it comes to the Flyers.
Today was a classic example.
The day began with the surprising good news that Geoff Sanderson won't need abdominal surgery. He has a mild strain in his abductor area, not a complete tear, according to the MRI taken this weekend.
Mike Richards, who has a severe abdominal tear, will undergo surgery today.
The bad news concerned the roster, where Petr Nedved, who turned 35 on Saturday, was again placed on waivers. If he is not claimed, he'll go to the Phantoms, but he won't be recalled again as a Flyer, according to general manager Paul Holmgren.
So Nedved's brief Flyers career - he arrived in late January - is over for good? "Yeah, it's safe to say that," Holmgren said.
more food for thought...for the few of us that are paying attention to the Flyers...
QuoteObvious names to add to the list with LeClair are Jason Allison and Brian Leetch. Both are free agents currently not playing, and either would help right now. Allison can score and Leetch would add experience, leadership and a puck moving
defenseman on the back end, especially on the power play.
Those are not moves that will cost the future.
The Flyers are 12 points out of the last playoff spot in the East with 20 points. They have 53 games left. To make the playoffs they are going to need at least 70 points out of the remaining games.
That is an unqualified long shot. It will be an even longer shot without Holmgren making some moves this week.
Well, there goes our shot at a cup.
Its bad, so i just want to see fights.
They're still playing?
FWIW Bill Clement was saying Calder back to Chicago for Jim Vandemeer(traded from the flyers to chicago for Zhamnov 3 years ago) is almost a done deal. I'd do it in a heartbeat.
the "peter's got a solution for his foot" article for this week
http://www.courierpostonline.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20061213/SPORTS04/612130366/1002/SPORTS
Quote from: Seabiscuit36 on December 11, 2006, 05:26:11 PM
Its bad, so i just want to see fights.
for 1 game, they should bring up every "goon" from the Phantoms. The Wac would rock!
i setting the line at Pens -3.5 for tonight.
i just bet on the pens at -1.5
ive never seen a hockey spread at more than 1.5
OMG! did Kyle Calder actually get a goal??? maybe now we can move him. I'd undo that Zues trade in a heartbeat...even with him on the IR.
The Flyers traded Freddy Meyer IV to the Islanders today for Alexi Zhitnik who's 35 and earning 3.5 mill per year for 2 more years. Holmgren got raped from the contract standpoint. I dont get why they make this trade when its not like Zhitnik is going to right the team and get you a cup. Hopefully they can trade his ass later on.
As much as I truly had hope for Freddy, he just wasn't getting better fast enough (not that anyone on the Flyers is). ..and much like the Flyers FO, they just don't sit and wait on players. they musta been getting bored lately, so they made a trade for an experienced D-man (since Rathje's gone). I guess Leetch wasn't a cheap short-term option.
Zhitnik would have been a great addition if we were playoff contenders, since we're not I would have rather we held onto a young guy like Myers.
we traded for a Russian :o
freddy meyer is a scrub ahl'er nothing less nothing more
the trade is meaningless from both ends
i was more pissed about possibly losing a 3rd rounder and taking on that salary. That said Zhitnik looks really good tonight
an nhl 3rd rounder is worth as much as a three dollar bill
Forseberg comes back and then gets another concussion?
If I were him I'd just quit till I get sent to some team that can win.
dont look now but mds is into hockey
I just bought a dish to get the center ice package.
Mike York!
http://www.philadelphiaflyers.com/pressbox/archive/2915.asp
Why are we picking on Garth Snow all of a sudden?
Quote from: SunMo on December 20, 2006, 12:03:08 PM
Mike York!
http://www.philadelphiaflyers.com/pressbox/archive/2915.asp
Stanley. C----
Oh nevermind.
garth snow thought he was getting luc robataille
Paul Holmgren's treating draft picks like Andy Reid treats running plays.
Niittymaki was injured and left the game, the team lost their 10th in a row, and they're now 15 points behind the next worst team in the Eastern Conference (Florida)...
Why haven't they traded Forsberg yet?
Forsberg holds more value the closer you get to the trading deadline. If theyre gonna do it, its gonna be in early to mid february
he also holds more value when he can actually get on the ice
Well the flyers actually won a game last night against Tampa Bay 4-3. Esche played well, nitty is out possibly the year depending on if he wants to have the surgery now.
Quote from: Seabiscuit36 on December 29, 2006, 08:05:38 AM
Well the flyers actually won a game last night against Tampa Bay 4-3. Esche played well, nitty is out possibly the year depending on if he wants to have the surgery now.
May as well - not like he's going to miss anything worthwhile.
I ran into these guys here in NC at lunch today:
Forsberg & Gagne (http://www.hewroteshewrote.com/forsbergGagne.jpg)
Knuble (http://www.hewroteshewrote.com/knuble.jpg)
that's pretty cool, although the diva superstars look kinda grumpy
Another Russian!
The Flyers claimed Dmitry Afanasenkov off waivers from the Lightning today...
bio (http://tsn.ca/nhl/teams/players/bio/?id=1793&hubname=nhl-flyers)
Quote from: BigEd76 on December 30, 2006, 03:16:08 PM
that's pretty cool, although the diva superstars look kinda grumpy
They didn't like the selection/quality of the menu at the place I was eating (a cheap "Mexican" place called Moe's), and they were heading down to see if Ruth's Chris was open around the corner. Right before the pictures were taken, the conversation was something like, "It's been a rough season." "Yeah, it has." etc etc... So, they probably weren't in a great mood. Knuble instinctively agreed to take the first picture of me with Forsberg and Gagne as if it happens quite often when the 3 are hanging out together.
All in all, they were cordial enough. Knuble was probably the nicest guy of the three.
I don't know why they came down to Raleigh so soon, since the game's not until tomorrow night.
WELCOME TO MOOOOOOOOOOOE'S!
:boom
:-D
You should have thanked them for the 2004-2005 season. I'll never forget the memories.
Quote from: Jerome99RIP on December 30, 2006, 03:40:40 PM
WELCOME TO MOOOOOOOOOOOE'S!
:boom
:-D
Haha, indeed. Frankly, I think the greeting was one of the reasons they didn't hang around.
Also, Ruth's Chris is not open for lunch on Saturdays, so not long after I got the pictures, I saw them walk back past the front of Moe's in search of food.
Forsberg didn't seem to be limping or anything.
Thats awsome FF, Knuble seems like a regular guy. Its nice to see them all hanging out together.
No doubt that out of the 3, Knuble seemed to be the most genuine and least annoyed guy. FWIW
ha, the more i look at that picture, the more annoyed Forsberg and Gagne look.
Yeah, they could have done without. Of course, they're probably skittish around fans right now because of the way the team's playing. I'd assume that's why they arrived in Raleigh so early also.
Plus, why in the hell is Forsberg wearing no less than 3 layers on a 58 degree day? Fruity.
He's from Sweden. You'd think he be in a polo shirt and shorts in 58 degree weather.
Because he's a pimp 8)
you're sticking your finger in your butt in that first picture. i can tell.
Quote from: phattymatty on December 30, 2006, 07:42:16 PM
you're sticking your finger in your butt in that first picture. i can tell.
Actually, I have one finger in Forsberg's and one in Gagne's.
Well, now I have an idea of how tall you are... shorty. ;)
Quote from: FFatPatt on December 30, 2006, 08:57:13 PM
Quote from: phattymatty on December 30, 2006, 07:42:16 PM
you're sticking your finger in your butt in that first picture. i can tell.
Actually, I have one finger in Forsberg's and one in Gagne's.
Do your fingers smell like potpourri?
Quote from: SD_Eagle on December 31, 2006, 08:33:35 AM
Quote from: FFatPatt on December 30, 2006, 08:57:13 PM
Quote from: phattymatty on December 30, 2006, 07:42:16 PM
you're sticking your finger in your butt in that first picture. i can tell.
Actually, I have one finger in Forsberg's and one in Gagne's.
Do your fingers smell like potpourri?
The Gagne finger, yes. The Forsberg one smells like Ben-Gay.
Esche plays 2 games and they get 2 wins. Coincidence? I think not.
GO ESCHE!
Quote from: King Cole on January 01, 2007, 03:59:14 AM
Esche plays 2 games and they get 2 wins. Coincidence? I think not.
GO ESCHE!
Forsberg playing is the main difference.
Actually, the top line was all possessed because they were excited to actually meet a fan in an away city.
Quote from: FFatPatt on January 01, 2007, 11:36:37 AM
Actually, the top line was all possessed because they were excited to actually meet a fan in an away city.
This year may be different (heck, I didn't go myself this year), but the crowds in Miami and Tampa were often at least 1/3 Flyers fans.
3 in a row :paranoid
Stanley CUP
Esche = wins.
Carter= Wins
FORSBERG = wins
Too bad he's back out again for 7-10.
Quote from: Geowhizzer on January 03, 2007, 09:03:29 PM
FORSBERG = wins
Too bad he's back out again for 7-10.
I still kick myself a little for not getting in a comment about Forsberg's frequent injuries on Saturday.
They're luckly to be down just 1-0 right now.
They suck.
You know what? YOU suck.
Quote from: Geowhizzer on January 04, 2007, 07:40:20 PM
They're luckly to be down just 1-0 right now.
They suck.
Yep. Man if Nitty was in there they'd be down like 6-0 already.
2-0
Quote from: King Cole on January 04, 2007, 07:58:29 PM
Quote from: Geowhizzer on January 04, 2007, 07:40:20 PM
They're luckly to be down just 1-0 right now.
They suck.
Yep. Man if Nitty was in there they'd be down like 6-0 already.
I hope to god you are joking.
Rangers win 3-2
Bruins win 4-3
11-26-4 at the halfway point of the season, 7 points ahead of St. Louis for worst record in the NHL, and 12 points behind Florida in the Eastern Conference....
Senators win 6-1
So are there any studs out there that the Flyers can take at number one?
Or are we farged because this a weak draft class?
worst draft in 11 years
I was reading up on Jakub Voracek who's the overall favorite to go #1 in this draft and he seems like a good prospect. Maybe not Crosby/Ovechin good but still a good prospect.
The Flyers' top forward prospect Steve Downie was traded to the Kitchener Rangers today...
double post
Bummer - he was the only reason left to watch the Petes. They suck pretty bad this year. :P
QuoteNHL releases Mid-Season Rankings for 2007 Entry Draft
Jan 10, 2007, 10:47 AM EST
Esposito Tops North American Skaters; Cann Top Goaltender; Cherepanov Top European
TORONTO - Montreal native Angelo Esposito, a center for the defending Memorial Cup champion Quebec Remparts of the Quebec Major Junior Hockey League, is the top-ranked North American skater in the NHL Central Scouting Service mid-season ranking of eligible players for the 2007 NHL Entry Draft.
The 2007 NHL Entry Draft will take place at Nationwide Arena in Columbus, Ohio, with the first round being held on Friday, June 22 (7:00 p.m., ET) and rounds two through seven conducted on Saturday, June 23.
Trevor Cann (Oakville, Ont.), of the Peterborough Petes of the Ontario Hockey League, is the top-rated North American goaltender, while right wing Alexei Cherepanov (Omsk, Russia) of Russia and goaltender Mark Owuya (Djurgarden, SW) of the Swedish Junior league are the top ranked skater and goalie, respectively, in Europe.
Joining Esposito among the top North American skaters are: #2 James Van Riemsdyk (Middletown, New Jersey), a left wing with the U.S. Under-18 Team and a member of the U.S. team that won a bronze medal at the 2007 World Junior Championships; #3 center Sam Gagner (London, Ontario) of the London Knights (OHL), who won a gold medal with Canada at the 2007 World Junior Championships and whose father, Dave, played in the NHL for 15 seasons; #4 Patrick Kane (Buffalo, New York), a right wing with the London Knights (OHL), who played with Van Riemsdyk on the 2007 U.S. National Junior Team; and #5 Kyle Turris (New Westminster, British Columbia), a center with the Burnaby Express of the B.C. Junior Hockey League.
CSS Mid-Term Rankings:
The mid-season ranking features the top 210 skaters and 30 goaltenders in North America and top 170 skaters and 15 goaltenders from Europe.
In addition to Gagner, a number of 2007 top ranked prospects have family ties to the NHL.
6 ranked Keaton Ellerby of Kamloops (WHL): cousin of Shane Doan of the Phoenix Coyotes and Montreal Canadiens draft choice goaltender Carey Price, who led Canada to the gold medal at the 2007 World Junior Championships.
9 ranked Brandon Sutter of Red Deer (WHL): father, Brent, played 17 years in the NHL . . . uncles Brian, Darryl, Duane, Ron and Rich (along with Brent) totalled more than 5,000 NHL games.
21 ranked Colton Gillies of Saskatoon (WHL): father, Clark, played 14 seasons in the NHL with NY Islanders and Buffalo.
29 ranked Maxime Tanguay of Rimouski (QMJHL): brother, Alex, plays for the Calgary Flames.
In its 31st year of operation, the NHL Central Scouting Service provides scouting and evaluation of draft-eligible players to NHL member clubs. Headed by Director of Central Scouting E.J. McGuire, NHL Central Scouting employs nine full-time and six part-time scouts throughout North America and works with Goran Stubb of the European Scouting Service and his staff of five full-time scouts to cover prospects playing throughout Europe. Combined, the NHL Central Scouting and European Scouting Service will see more than 3,000 games this season.
The full ranking in all categories are available at http://media.nhl.com and through the League's Public Relations Department in Toronto (416-981-2777) and New York (212-789-2000).
Thief....
QuoteFollowing are brief bios of some of the top-rated prospects for the 2007 NHL Entry Draft.
Angelo Esposito, Center, Quebec Remparts (QMJHL)
Born: February 20, 1989, Montreal, Quebec
6'1", 180 lbs.
Ranked 1st among North American skaters at mid-season... plays for head coach Patrick Roy with the Quebec Remparts of the QMJHL... through the first 40 games of the 2006-07 season, had 61 points (19-42-61) and ranked sixth in the league in assists... has been selected to the Top Prospects game in Quebec City on Jan. 17/07... was named player of the week on Nov. 16/06 after registering 11 points (4-7-11) in three games... had a six-point game on Nov. 19/06 to help lead his team to a win... was selected to the QMJHL all-star team for the Canada-Russia Challenge in Nov./06 and had three assists in two games... won the Memorial Cup Championship in 2006... awarded the Michel Bergeron Trophy as the QMJHL's Top Offensive Rookie in 2005-06... his favorite NHL player is Tampa Bay's Vincent Lecavalier... speaks three languages fluently (French, English, Italian).
James Van Riemsdyk, Left wing, U.S. Under-18 Team
Born: May 4, 1989, Middletown, New Jersey
6'3", 200 lbs.
Ranked 2nd among North American skaters at mid-season... is a member of the U.S. National Under-18 Team... had 43 points (25-18-43) in 25 games through Jan. 10/07... made his U.S. National Junior Team debut at the World Junior Championships in 2007, recording one goal in the tournament (1-0-1)... had 42 points (26-16-42) in 55 games as a member of the U.S. National Under-17 Team in 2005-06... helped lead the U.S. to a gold medal victory at the World Under-18 Championships in Angelholm, Sweden in 2006... was named to the All-Tournament Team at the 2006 World Under-17 Challenge, helping his team win a silver medal... his favorite NHL player is San Jose's Joe Thornton... names Carolina's Eric Staal as the NHL player he patterns his game after.
Sam Gagner, Center, London Knights (OHL)
Born: August 10, 1989, London, Ontario
5'11", 190 lbs.
Ranked 3rd among North American skaters at mid-season... was the youngest member of Team Canada's gold medal-winning team at the 2007 World Junior Championships in Sweden... had 67 points (18-49-67) with the London Knights of the OHL in 30 games in 2006-07 through Jan. 10/07... selected to play in 2007 Top Prospects Game ... leads the OHL in power-play assists (33) and is tied for first in the league in assists (49)... played for Sioux City of the USHL, totaling 46 points (11-35-46) in 56 games in 2005-06... was named to the USHL All-Rookie Team in 2005-06... was selected to the Western Conference All-Star Team for the 2006 USHL All-Star Game... had 13 points with Team Ontario in five games in 2005-06... his father, Dave, played 15 seasons in the NHL, registering consecutive 40-goal seasons (1989-90 and 1990-91); 719 career points as well as playing for Canada at the 1984 Winter Olympics.
Patrick Kane, Right wing, London Knights (OHL)
Born: November 19, 1988, Buffalo, New York
5'9", 162 lbs.
Ranked 4th among North American skaters at mid-season... had nine points (5-4-9) as a member of Team USA's bronze medal-winning team at the 2007 World Junior Championships in Sweden... through 32 games of 2006-07 had 67 points (26-41-67)... selected to play in 2007 Top Prospects Game in Quebec City... tied for first with teammate Sam Gagner for points by a rookie (67) and tied for third overall in OHL scoring... had 102 points for the U.S. National Under-18 Team in 2005-06, setting a record for points in a season (previously held by Phil Kessel --98)...won a gold medal at the 2006 World Under-18 Championships, leading the tournament in goals (7), points (12) and was named to the Tournament All-Star Team... his favorite NHL players are Atlanta's Ilya Kovalchuk and Washington's Alexander Ovechkin.
Kyle Turris, Center, Burnaby Express (BCJHL)
Born: August 14, 1989, New Westminster, British Columbia
6'1", 170 lbs.
Ranked 5th among North American skaters at mid-season... through 29 games this season, had 37 goals and 60 points... leads the BCHL in goals... won the Royal Bank Cup in 2006 (Canada's national Tier 2 junior championship)... member of Team Canada's Under-18 Team in 2006 -- had a goal and an assist in helping Canada win gold at the Junior World Cup... names former Red Wings' great Steve Yzerman as his favorite player and the one player that he patterns his game after... describes himself as a "playmaker that can also put the puck in the net" and sights his ability to create "scoring chances for my teammates and myself" as his strongest assets.
Keaton Ellerby, Defense, Kamloops Blazers (WHL)
Born: November 5, 1988. Strathmore, Alberta
6'4, 194 lbs.
Ranked 6th among North American skaters at mid-season... in his third season with the Kamloops Blazers of the WHL... has played in 38 games this season, registering 11 points (2-9-11) and has a plus-2 rating... was selected to attend Canada's National Junior Team's selection camp in 2006... selected to the 2007 Top Prospects Game (Jan. 17/07 in Quebec City)... was part of Team WHL for two games in the 2006 Canada-Russia Challenge ... is a cousin of Shane Doan of the Phoenix Coyotes and goaltender Carey Price, who led Canada to the gold medal at the 2007 World Junior Championships... his favorite NHL player is Anaheim's Chris Pronger... names Florida's Jay Bouwmeester and Pronger as the NHL players that he patterns his game after... describes himself as a "defensive defenseman with some offense."
John Blum, Defense, Vancouver Giants (WHL)
Born: January 30, 1989, Long Beach, California
6'0", 163 lbs.
Ranked 7th among North American skaters at mid-season... plays for coach Don Hay with the Vancouver Giants... through the 42 games this season, had a career-high 34 points and ranked second on the team in assists with 28... ranks third in the WHL in plus/minus with a plus 21 rating... selected to play in the 2007 Top Prospects Game... had 24 points (7-17-24) in 62 games with Vancouver in 2005-06... won the WHL Championship in 2006 -- had seven assists (1-7-8) in 18 playoff games for the Giants...names former NHL'er Brian Leetch and New Jersey's Bryan Rafalski as the two players that he patterns his game after... describes himself as a "offensive defenseman" with "good hockey sense"... his favorite NHL defenseman is Los Angeles' Rob Blake.
Karl Alzner, Defense, Calgary Hitmen (WHL)
Born: September 24, 1988, Burnaby, British Columbiaz
6'2", 209 lbs.
Ranked 8th among North American skaters at mid-season... was a member of Team Canada's gold medal-winning team at the 2007 World Junior Championships in Sweden... helped Canada win its third straight gold medal with six consecutive wins and only seven goals against... had 28 points (5-23-28) in the first 33 games of the 2006-07 season... an assistant captain with the Hitmen... selected to the 2007 Top Prospects Game... was selected to Team WHL for the 2006 Canada-Russia Challenge... had a plus-14 rating and 24 points (4-20-24) in 70 games in 2005-06... was Calgary's Scholastic Player of the Year in 2005 and 2006... won a gold medal with Canada at the 2005 Under-18 Junior World Cup... played his minor hockey for the Burnaby Winter Club and was named the B.C. Minor Hockey Player of the Year in 2002... says he patterns his game after Anaheim's Scott Niedermayer in the defensive zone and Detroit's Nicklas Lidstrom in the offensive zone... describes himself as a "stay-at-home defenseman, slowly evolving to do more offensively"... favorite NHL defensemen is Scott Niedermayer
QuoteBrandon Sutter, Center/Right wing, Red Deer Rebels (WHL)
Born: February 14, 1989, Huntington, New York
6'3", 170 lbs.
Ranked 9th among North American skaters at mid-season... is an assistant captain with the Red Deer Rebels this season ... had 18 goals, 23 assists and 41 points in the first 43 games of the 2006-07 season ... selected to play in the 2007 Top Prospects Game ... was selected to Team WHL for the 2007 Canada-Russia Challenge ... won the Junior World Cup as a member of Team Canada's under-18 team -- was one of only three team members that were under-agers... his father, Brent, played 17 years in the NHL... Brent along with brothers Brian, Darryl, Duane, Brent, Ron and Rich totaled more than 5,000 NHL games, won six Stanley Cups and scored 2, 922 points... favorite NHL player is Calgary's Jarome Iginla... describes himself as a "power forward."
Tommy Cross, Defense, Westminster High School (Connecticut)
Born: September 12, 1989, Hartford, Connecticut
6'3", 195 lbs.
Ranked 10th among North American skaters at mid-season... is in his first year with Westminster High School of the CIAC... had 15 goals, 35 assists for 50 points in 22 games played in 2005-06 with Simsbury High... was named Connecticut's Hockey Player of the Year in 2005-06... was a member of the 2006 U.S. Under-18 Junior World Cup Team... also plays baseball and was an All-Conference Baseball Selection in 2006... describes himself as "a play-making defenseman, who takes care of his own end first and then looks to be involved in the offense"... his favorite player is Detroit's Nicklas Lidstrom and picks him as the person that his offensive game is patterned after.
Trevor Cann, Goaltender, Peterborough Petes (OHL)
Born: March 30, 1989, Oakville, Ontario
5'11", 180 lbs.
Ranked 1st among North America goaltenders at mid-season... has played 39 games this season with the Peterborough Petes, recording 17 wins and 17 loses (17-17-0)... his .912 save percentage ranks in the top ten in the OHL... was the youngest goalie selected to attend Canada's National Junior Team selection camp in 2006... recorded a shutout with 23 saves for Team OHL at the Canada-Russia Challenge in 2006... backstopped Canada to a Junior World Cup title with the under-18 team in 2006 with a .67 goals against average and a .967 save percentage -- had a shutout in the final game against Team USA and allowed only two goals in three starts... his favorite NHL goalie is Toronto's Andrew Raycroft.
Alexei Cherepanov, Right Wing, Avangard OMSK (Russian Super League)
Born: January 15, 1989, Barnaul, Russia
6'0", 183 lbs.
Ranked 1st among European skaters at mid-season... has played 28 games for OMSK of the Russian Super League in 2006-07, registering 19 points (10-9-19)... he was named Top Forward at the 2007 World Junior Championship, collecting eight points (5-3-8) and leading Team Russia to a silver medal... his five goals in six games tied for first in the tournament... as a 17-year-old in 2005-06, he tallied 12 points in 34 games with OMSK... names NY Rangers' Jaromir Jagr and Pittsburgh's Evgeni Malkin as his role models. :yay
NHL.com
Quote9 ranked Brandon Sutter of Red Deer (WHL): father, Brent, played 17 years in the NHL . . . uncles Brian, Darryl, Duane, Ron and Rich (along with Brent) totalled more than 5,000 NHL games.
100 years from now there will still be a Sutter somewhere in the NHL
Quote from: SunMo on January 10, 2007, 01:21:56 PM
QuoteNHL releases Mid-Season Rankings for 2007 Entry Draft
Trevor Cann (Oakville, Ont.), of the Peterborough Petes of the Ontario Hockey League, is the top-rated North American goaltender
...with a 3.3 GAA. Yeah, things are a bit different down in Juniors...
Flyers lose 4-2 vs Montreal on a night where they honored Eric Desjardins with a retired number a banner with his name a car anything
What were they supposed to give him? He wasn't that good.
a pat on the back?
a hearty handshake?
an "atta boy"?
from Philly.com
QuoteIn a move to add depth at goalie, the Flyers yesterday claimed Michael Leighton off waivers from the Nashville Predators for $63,750.
"We've risked ourselves for part of the year with both Antero Niittymaki and Robert Esche being hurt," general manager Paul Holmgren said. "We've had to go with a backup kid [Martin Houle] who wasn't really ready for the NHL. Michael helps in that regard. It's an insurance policy for us."
A butterfly-style goalie, Leighton will report to the Flyers today. By carrying three goalies, the Flyers open themselves up to the possibility of trading Esche or allowing Niittymaki to have surgery on his ailing left hip. It is more likely that a trade is coming.
Flyers are playing on NBC. The past 5 minutes have been the best hockey all year for the flyers.
Hockey on TV is terrible. Why do they even try?
Quote from: Seabiscuit36 on January 13, 2007, 03:50:30 PM
Flyers are playing on NBC. The past 5 minutes have been the best hockey all year for the flyers.
I tuned in for the wrong five minutes, apparently.
0-6 vs the Crosbys this year
Youtube Video (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z9RuldyPcIA)What was a good series of the Pittsburgh game. Picard lays out Colby Armstrong. Armstrong Charges Carter(doesnt get called) Carter knocks armstrong over(gets called) Forsberg calls out Armstrong in front of the whole Pittsburgh team then nearly gives talbot a concussion
this is how bad this season has gotten (as if we didn't know already)...
someone who is a Rangers fan, and buys tix from me, wants to return tix for a Rangers/Flyers game.
he say even he doesn't wanna watch the Flyers, cause they suck.
Seems to me everyone is off the bandwagon. What happened to all those "die hard" hockey lovers? Come on, kids. Come on out.
Quote from: MDS on January 18, 2007, 10:17:53 PM
Seems to me everyone is off the bandwagon. What happened to all those "die hard" hockey lovers? Come on, kids. Come on out.
Quote from: SD_Eagle on October 17, 2006, 08:44:35 PM
Quote from: Bunkley78 on October 17, 2006, 08:39:27 PM
Care to wager on that SD?
I wrote this in the offseason thread after I saw them get destroyed in a pre-season game:
QuoteI wouldn't be so down on them if they either had: A) A speedy defense capable of being effective in todays NHL or B) A good goalie.
For those two reasons alone, I can't see us finishing as anything other than a bottom seed or out of the playoffs altogether.
So yeah, I'll stick to my guns. Pick your poison, be it cash or something else. This team ain't making the playoffs.
I win
Quote from: MDS on January 18, 2007, 10:17:53 PM
Seems to me everyone is off the bandwagon. What happened to all those "die hard" hockey lovers? Come on, kids. Come on out.
I watched the third period tonight. Just enough to prove, once again, that this team sucks.
(http://www.dailydrawshopping.com/images/Vacuum%20Cleaners.jpg)
I went..Yay me
Quote from: MDS on January 18, 2007, 10:17:53 PM
Seems to me everyone is off the bandwagon. What happened to all those "die hard" hockey lovers? Come on, kids. Come on out.
yea, someone please buy my tickets. :'(. I can only handle so much.
Up 3-2 at New Jersey with under :30 left? Too good to be true. The Devils scored with :21 left to send it to OT...
oh wo is Philly sports
In a Courier Times article today, they were saying that Chris Drury or Daniel Briere might be signed away from Buffalo, and Kimmo Timonen might be signed away from Nashville. They have about $23M to spend out of a $46M cap...
Briere is good.
NY daily news is reporting the Rangers are actively trying to get Forsberg. The rumor is Petr Prucha, Brandon Dubinsky and a 1st. Thats the opening bid for Forsberg, and its been reported that 11 teams have already shown interest. Supposedly Forsberg is willing to be traded to a contender as long as he can come back to the flyers in the summer.
Why the hell would he want to do that?
Apparently he loves it here. Essentially it would be a Mark Recchi type situation by trading him to a contender and then having an unwritten agreement that the player would go back to the team that traded him.
Quote from: Seabiscuit36 on January 22, 2007, 07:54:28 AM
Apparently he loves it here.
I think him and Gagne love each other (no no homo).
Detroit: Get Forsberg! (http://www.freep.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20070125/COL08/701250324/1053/SPORTS05)
QuoteThe Wings are crazy if they don't pursue the mercurial Forsberg, who contemplates retirement every time he wakes up. The fear is that Forsberg, 33, is an NHL variation of Chris Webber -- a former superstar whose once-extraordinary skills are choking on fumes. But the Wings should take the same approach as the Pistons: Perhaps a renewed spirit could coax one last glimpse of greatness.
ouch
Colorado: Get Forsberg! (http://www.rockymountainnews.com/drmn/sports_columnists/article/0,1299,DRMN_83_5303724,00.html)
Just daydreaming from a Denver columnist, not a rumor
Vancouver: Get Forsberg! (http://www.canada.com/theprovince/news/sports/story.html?id=f32cd454-8af5-4841-bd52-1fb7e95ce8ba)
They don't have the cap room or prospects/draft picks we want
Fedoruk punched Pitkanen in the face the other day at practice. They're good buddies again today.
Flyers lost 2-1 vs the Rangers. Tomorrow's game will be on NBC in the Philly and Atlanta areas...
Bomb hockey.
Quote from: BigEd76 on January 27, 2007, 03:33:00 PM
Fedoruk punched Pitkanen in the face the other day at practice. They're good buddies again today.
Flyers lost 2-1 vs the Rangers. Tomorrow's game will be on NBC in the Philly and Atlanta areas...
maybe that's why Pitkanen has scored 2 goals this month...btw, his only 2 all year.
team looked "better" vs Rangers, but the score
could should have been worse.
ha
(http://www.cbc.ca/sports/hockey/instigator/gfx/2006-07/lost-in-translation.jpg)
(http://www.cbc.ca/sports/hockey/instigator/gfx/2006-07/dodo-ed.jpg)
whoa...Carter just scored his 2nd goal of the game with 1:00 left....2-1 Flyers :o
Quote from: BigEd76 on January 28, 2007, 05:56:25 PM
whoa...Carter just scored his 2nd goal of the game with 1:00 left....2-1 Flyers :o
That 3rd period was some entertaining hockey. :yay
1st game I watched from start to finish in quite a while.
Quote from: Geowhizzer on January 28, 2007, 06:59:23 PM
Quote from: BigEd76 on January 28, 2007, 05:56:25 PM
whoa...Carter just scored his 2nd goal of the game with 1:00 left....2-1 Flyers :o
That 3rd period was some entertaining hockey. :yay
1st game I watched from start to finish in quite a while.
it was (dare I say) playoff-caliber fast. no stoppages and thankfully no lame-ass penalties.
i laughed the other day when sportscenter ran that piece about all the things that have happened in the world since the flyers last won at home
Flyers lose in OT/shootout - no chance vs. the Lightning. They need to do away with the shootouts, it was a interesting concept but its proven to be really dumb.
Shootouts are ghey.
shootouts are fine as they eliminate the awful tie...the thing they really need to get rid of is the shootout loss column...that is gay
wins and losses
losses and wins
They should extend OT to 10 minutes and keep the tie. I never had a problem with getting a point for a tie.
a tie is awful, especially for someone paying $90 to go to a game. i would rather see my team lose in a shootout than watch them tie.
if there is anything positive for this team, it's that their effort has been good since the all-star break, they are mostly healthy and playing a little better while giving full effort for the whole game.
As a traditionalist, I think shootouts are a farce.
The game should be settled on the ice in regular play, not in some made-for-television reality show melodrama.
I was on record as being against the shootout from the beginning. It would be like playing 10 innings of baseball, then deciding the winner by having a home run derby. To me, it cheapens the game.
Don't want a tie? Play until there's a winner - just like in the playoffs.
Quote from: Geowhizzer on January 31, 2007, 08:37:56 AM
I was on record as being against the shootout from the beginning. It would be like playing 10 innings of baseball, then deciding the winner by having a home run derby. To me, it cheapens the game.
Don't want a tie? Play until there's a winner - just like in the playoffs.
Good analogy.
I wouldn't mind 4 on 4 (which is usually exciting in OT) until there's a winner. Only problem is you'd have to cut it off at some point...OT in Hockey can go on forever.
i believe the reason they havent done away with the single point value is because forever hockey has been a two-one-zero point system...were they to go to wins and losses there really wouldnt be a need for a point system at all...they would go to wins-losses-games back that all sports use...i dont think the purists want that...to me tho theyve butchered the game so much in the last ten years what difference would it make at this point
if there is anything positive for this team, it's that their effort has been good since the all-star break, they are mostly healthy and playing a little better while giving full effort for the whole game.
carter has looked great lately pitkanan has stepped it up as well...the key is to find out how good these kids are...im really hoping carter proves hes got #1 center potential in him...i dont want him playing wing at all anymore...if they can slot carter at 1 and richards at 3 and joni as a #1 pairing defenseman they can start to build around those three this offseason
now they just need a young number one goalie....which is why they should have traded anyone and everyone for luongo when they had the chance
Nitty has proved what he can do if you have a good D in front of him. I still think nitty has a lot of upside, he's won at very high levels, but with the D the flyers are putting out there, its no wonder why he went so long w/o a win.
I was on record as being against the shootout from the beginning. It would be like playing 10 innings of baseball, then deciding the winner by having a home run derby. To me, it cheapens the game.
the diference is there are way more overtimes in hockey than extra innings games in baseball...so you really cant compare the two...if hockey overtimes were as rare as extra inning baseball overtime basketball or football games theyed have no problem playing it out...but you cant be having games go to midnight every other day
nitty would be a great backup and a competant starter but he will never carry a team...he gives up an insane amount of soft goals...maybe even more than esche
He gives up less rebounds than Esche. When he does give them up, his dmen need to move and not just stand there stationary in front of the net and allowing the other team to get easy chip in's. I've watched nearly every game this year, Esche is Esche, to me hes ckeckmanek. He makes a amazing save and gives up a mr softee, then goes thru a series of saves that makes him look like a Vezina contender.
I think we all have to realize we're never going to get a Broudur or a Roy.
Quote from: Seabiscuit36 on January 31, 2007, 08:47:09 AMNitty has proved what he can do if you have a good D in front of him.
So we need 7 Finnish defensemen?
/\ /\ /\
YES! More Finns equals more Wins :-D
I just read after the game Forsberg said his foot feels much better. :yay Keep upping that value.
Quote from: Seabiscuit36 on January 31, 2007, 08:47:09 AM
Nitty has proved what he can do if you have a good D in front of him. I still think nitty has a lot of upside, he's won at very high levels, but with the D the flyers are putting out there, its no wonder why he went so long w/o a win.
plus, he's playing this year with a hip-load of painkillers. I do think he's a #1...and for the future.
Quote from: ice grillin you on January 31, 2007, 08:48:11 AM
I was on record as being against the shootout from the beginning. It would be like playing 10 innings of baseball, then deciding the winner by having a home run derby. To me, it cheapens the game.
the diference is there are way more overtimes in hockey than extra innings games in baseball...so you really cant compare the two...if hockey overtimes were as rare as extra inning baseball overtime basketball or football games theyed have no problem playing it out...but you cant be having games go to midnight every other day
Highest percentage of overtime games is less than one in four games. And I'd rather EVERY game go to midnight than to decide a hockey match with a carnival sideshow like a shootout.
they need to make ot 2 pts for a win and 0 pts for a loss. 1 pt each to get to shootout, which should stay because it beats a tie.
but then again, within 10 years this sport will have no fan base left and will be only played in canada and strange scandanavian countries.
I think shootouts are 'exciting' and I'm also not in favor of ties, but you are deciding games with a talent competition. A shootout really has nothing to do with the sport. It is such an arbitrary way to decide who should get the extra point. They could just as well flip a coin.
The thing is, having shootouts deciding hockey games cheapens the penalty shot as well.
Used to be that the penalty shot - when it was rarely occurring - was one of the most exciting moments in sport. A man-on-man withing in the context of the game.
Now, it really doesn't excite me at all. Watching Forsberg and Gagne's pathetic attempts the other day was more sad than anything else.
shootouts>ties>>>>>>>>a point for any kind of loss
Quote from: BigEd76 on January 20, 2007, 03:27:12 PM
Up 3-2 at New Jersey with under :30 left? Too good to be true. The Devils scored with :21 left to send it to OT...
12 days later, it happened again. Up 5-4 with :35 left.....Devils score
Hahaha, reading through the Flyers boxscores has been ridiculous this year. Who in the farg are these players? Christ they're awful.
Devils just won it in OT :-D
Pathetic
I thought I was the only Philly fan in the world outside of the Del. Val. watching that abortion.
The Flyers scored five goals in 60 mintues against arguably the best goaltender of the past 25 years tonight.
Oh, and they farging lost.
Bury everyone, especially the Romes who were supposedly playing "defense" tonight.
Quote from: Jerome99RIP on February 01, 2007, 11:49:13 PM
I thought I was the only Philly fan in the world outside of the Del. Val. watching that abortion.
The Flyers scored five goals in 60 mintues against arguably the best goaltender of the past 25 years tonight.
Oh, and they farging lost.
Bury everyone, especially the Romes who were supposedly playing "defense" tonight.
fortunately, there are teams still looking for veteran D-men, so PLEASE, someone take Hatcher!!
How about we just go ahead an start the offseason thread now?
Quote from: Cerevant on February 02, 2007, 08:19:04 AM
How about we just go ahead an start the offseason thread now?
Because with Holmgren at the helm, there's not much hope there, either.
Picard had 5 points last night :yay I think everyone knew that they would lose lastnight, its just typical of how bad this season has been. Oh yeah Yay Nitty :puke
at least I walked out with a free Chik-fil-A and a Gags bobblehead.
Because with Holmgren at the helm, there's not much hope there, either
They might win a home game this month. The Blues are coming to town...
DEMON WANTS TO FIGHT YOU RIGHT NOW!
at least they are playing better. i actually watch their games now because they aren't totally inept.
The fifth goal that Nitti gave up would have been saved by a high school goalie on roller skates.
He was a farging joke in net last night.
i don't think you mean the fifth goal, but i know which one you are talking about, he was awful.
from Philly.com
QuoteWhich Flyers are "highly unlikely" to be traded by the deadline? Mike Knuble and Simon Gagne, Holmgren said... . Three clubs remain interested in defenseman Derian Hatcher, sources say. Hatcher wants to stay here, but he has said if the club wants to move him, he understands... . Ryan Potulny, whose ice time had dwindled from an average of 11 minutes to six in the last 10 days, was sent down to the Phantoms. He had five goals and nine points in 25 games.
get him the farg outta Philly, NOW!
Quote from: SunMo on February 02, 2007, 12:09:02 PM
i don't think you mean the fifth goal, but i know which one you are talking about, he was awful.
Wasn't the fifth goal the one he gave up with no one in front of him where he flat out whiffed with his glove as he was sprawled out on his ass?
nitty gives up a bad goal EVERY game....even games he wins....he sucks
If they moved him and freed up cash it'd be great. That said he's played much better since hitch left
Quote from: Jerome99RIP on February 02, 2007, 12:23:07 PM
Wasn't the fifth goal the one he gave up with no one in front of him where he flat out whiffed with his glove as he was sprawled out on his ass?
yeah, possibly, i'm not sure.
i just remember that the shot from the blueline with no one in front of him was probably the worst one he gave up.
either way, it was a butchers job.
I was watching the game with my idiot brother-in-law Devils fan and he said he couldn't remember Brodeur playing a worse game in net than last night.
A flat-out miserable game from the defenses & goalies last night on both sides. Still, it was entertaining in a freak show sort of way.
Quote from: Jerome99RIP on February 02, 2007, 12:36:33 PM
I was watching the game with my idiot brother-in-law Devils fan and he said he couldn't remember Brodeur playing a worse game in net than last night.
A flat-out miserable game from the defenses & goalies last night on both sides. Still, it was entertaining in a freak show sort of way.
also nice to see a more physical game in this new era of "anti-old school" NHL hockey.
Nittymaki was terrible - no less than three bad goals, and the one of his glove was one of the worst I've ever seen.
Worst part was, everyone knew that, even with a minute left, the Flyers would blow the game. You knew it. I knew it. The Devils knew it. Worse - the Flyers knew it.
The Flyers are the worst team in the NHL, by an extremely wide margin. Nothing else worth saying about these bums.
3-0 vs Atlanta
10-32-7 against everyone else (including 3-13-4 against their own division)
The rumor going is Carolina is interested in 3 players on the Flyers.
Forsberg = They dont have enough young talent to get him
Sami = He played there before, and the Canes need to move a D Man to make room for Kaberle
Calder= Calder is playing well after the return of Carter
I think the Sami trade might be the most likely. With Kaberle returning fron injury they need to move DMen either to the minors or by trade.
Also the Hatcher rumors are gaining steam with Dallas leading the way. Hatcher stunk earlier this year but has played very well in the past 3 months, he's been a very effective Penalty Killer.
Quote from: Seabiscuit36 on February 05, 2007, 10:14:35 AM
The rumor going is Carolina is interested in 3 players on the Flyers.
Forsberg = They dont have enough young talent to get him
Sami = He played there before, and the Canes need to move a D Man to make room for Kaberle
Calder= Calder is playing well after the return of Carter
I think the Sami trade might be the most likely. With Kaberle returning fron injury they need to move DMen either to the minors or by trade.
Also the Hatcher rumors are gaining steam with Dallas leading the way. Hatcher stunk earlier this year but has played very well in the past 3 months, he's been a very effective Penalty Killer.
:-D :-D :-D are you serious?? :-D :-D :-D
if any trades do happen, it better be with
a lot of consideration for the near future...not just salary dump. However, I would trade Hatcher for a Chik-fil-A sandwich, straight up.
I'm a sucker for their chicken w/ Polynesian sauce and waffle fries w/ honey mustard.
I guess what I'm asking is this: Can we make it a combo meal instead of just a sandwich?
Hatcher hasn't been that awful this year, he hasn't killed them like he did last year, that's for sure
So... we're IN for the full combo meal? Would it be too ballsy to ask for it value/super-sized?
you dont ever wanna notice hatcher and hes been pretty invisible this year which is a sign that hes been solid
waffle fries suck...their inventer should be shot
waffle fries suck...their inventer should be shot
It's too late.. He died from the AIDS
kill him two time
I don't think the odd shape takes away from their fried goodness.
their texture doesnt taste like a french fry...in fact i dont even consider them french fries....very often they are soggy...there just isnt any good reason for the existence of waffle fries
I was a waffle fry hater too until I moved here. Chick-Fil-A is the Devil even if they are closed on Sunday.
Quote from: ice grillin you on February 05, 2007, 02:10:28 PM
you dont ever wanna notice hatcher and hes been pretty invisible this year which is a sign that hes been solid
waffle fries suck...their inventer should be shot
While I don't know what he brings to the locker room...on the ice, he'd like to lead by example, but the wheels are shot...making the rest of the D-men work that much harder....and that isn't winning any games for us this year.
waffle fries are a nice change, but they're scarey.
Quote from: ice grillin you on February 05, 2007, 02:20:32 PM
very often they are soggy...
That's odd. You'd think the increased surface area would allow them to actually be more crunchy. That has been my general experience with waffle fries. So, assuming the waffle fries are crisp, are you still not a fan?
I think this is important to the Hatcher trade discussion.
i dont like them at all...but at chick fila it works out nicely since i will get two sandwhiches instead of a sandwhich and fries
The trick with waffle fries is to cook them in peanut oil. I'm serious. The peanut oil makes the outside insanely crisp yet doesn't overcook the potato inside.
PS: Hatcher was abysmal against the Devils. He should be tossed into a boiling pit of oil.
I'm all for trading him, but i do think he's played much better. He's not a top 2 defenseman, and he's getting entirely too many minutes but with the D who could blame Stevens
Quote from: Jerome99RIP on February 05, 2007, 03:56:39 PM
He should be tossed into a boiling pit of oil.
Options:
1. Partially-hydrogenated vegetable oil (TRANS FAT!)
2. Canola oil (HEALTHY!)
3. Peanut oil (CRUNCHY!)
you freaks make waffle fries at home?
Shut out by the Islanders
Quote from: BigEd76 on February 07, 2007, 09:59:33 PM
Shut out by the Islanders
The Fishsticks have a better GM than the Flyers. :paranoid
Quote from: phattymatty on February 05, 2007, 06:40:03 PM
you freaks make waffle fries at home?
I make lots of stuff at home. Waffle fries, spinach salad, pot brownies... you know, whatever's handy.
I make lots of stuff at home. Waffle fries, spinach salad, pot brownies...
what about....
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God bless that stupid bird.
I hate the farging shootout
The Crosby's own the Flyers
better get the parade route ready...
the Flyers won AT HOME, beating the Blues 4-3 in OT. With Michael Leighton in goal.
first home win since Nov 24th.
It took playing the crappy Blues to get a win. This has been a brutally dismal season.
first home win since black friday
i cant wait until they get the next sidney crosby with the first pick
oh wait there is no sidney crosby this year
i cant wait until they get the next mike richards
the flyers are the farthest philly team from a title...and that something you could never say since they became a team
Quote from: BigEd76 on February 02, 2007, 10:32:38 AM
They might win a home game this month. The Blues are coming to town...
:yay
igy, there's no Crosby or Ovechkin in this draft, but one kid that's starting to emerge as the top pick is Alexei Cherepanov (http://youtube.com/watch?v=c5SJSG9AW54). 17-yr old Russian winger, plays for Russia's top league and has more points this season (first year) than Ovechkin or Malkin did. They also will have about $22M to spend for free agency (although a quarter of that could go back to Forsberg if he re-signs), so they'll be able to steal someone from Buffalo (Drury or Briere) and get two defensemen....
I definitely want Cherepanov, he's a goal scorer.
Eskin says there's a "2% chance of Forsberg staying" and the three teams that want him the most are Vancouver, Nashville and Anaheim....
QuoteThe Philadelphia Flyers announced today that they have agreed to a two-year contract extension with 5'10", 185-pound forward Sami Kapanen, according to club General Manager Paul Holmgren. Kapanen is now signed through the 2008-09 season. Per club policy, terms of the contract were not disclosed.
"We are excited about having Sami around for a few more years," said Holmgren in making the announcement. "We feel that he brings a lot of qualities to our hockey team in terms of what he does both on and off the ice. He is a quality person and he's a good utility player who can play anywhere in our lineup."
"I am very happy to stay here," said Kapanen. "It's something that we were able to get done in a short period of time. I believe that this team is rebuilding in the right direction and we will be back contending next year. My family loves it here, so it was an easy decision to stay here."
Kapanen, 33, has recorded seven goals and seven assists for 14 points and 14 penalty minutes in 51 games for the Flyers this season.
personally, my favorite Flyer. I just wish he would shoot
more at all.
As expected, the Flyers with Michael Leighton in goal are beating the Red Wings 4-1... :paranoid
Quote from: BigEd76 on February 12, 2007, 09:25:33 PM
As expected, the Flyers with Michael Leighton in goal are beating the Red Wings 4-1... :paranoid
Make that 5-1. :o
And now it's 6-1 as Todd Fedoruk - yes, Todd Fedoruk - scores a breakaway goal coming out of the penalty box.
Stanley CUP ^-^
WTF did I just watch?
I hate the Red Wings, that was my Stanley Cup.
Did anyone else hear Mike Emrick say towards the end of the second period, "how many times have we seen these Red Wings play to a draw after two periods before blowing past people in the third?"
I actually laughed when I heard that. Once a Devils jerkoff, always a Devils jerkoff.
PS: 6-1 = :-D
PPS: Not true, rjs. The first half of the second period the Flyers played exceptional hockey. Then the penalties started coming... naturally.
RJS the whole game started with Gauthier going after that bitch Lila in the first
Quote from: Seabiscuit36 on February 12, 2007, 10:19:23 PM
RJS the whole game started with Gauthier going after that bitch Lila in the first
shtein seriously? I missed most of the first period.
Quote from: Seabiscuit36 on February 12, 2007, 10:19:23 PM
RJS the whole game started with Gauthier going after that bitch Lila in the first
That was great. Well worth the four minutes. Of course, Lila should have had two for his actions as well.
Quote from: Jerome99RIP on February 12, 2007, 10:16:50 PM
PPS: Not true, rjs. The first half of the second period the Flyers played exceptional hockey. Then the penalties started coming... naturally.
Host pathetic is it that we're discussing whether one well-played half of one period helps push this game to 'best of season' status?
Ugh.
I hear ya, but this game would have been one of the best games all year no matter if the team was in the top 5 in points as usual, or as sucky as they have been this year.
Primeau's Speech (http://www.philadelphiaflyers.com/sightsound/highlights/media/070212/2376.wmv)
Detroit had over twice as many points as the Flyers coming into the game....and they still do...
Because of Bettman's stupid scheduling, there won't be any Red Wings/Flyers games next year....
You ruin the world by watching hockey. Stop.
i'm actually looking forward to going to the game Thursday and Monday...and every game in March/April.
...unless they start sucking again.
Quote from: rjs246 on February 12, 2007, 10:59:35 PM
Quote from: Jerome99RIP on February 12, 2007, 10:16:50 PM
PPS: Not true, rjs. The first half of the second period the Flyers played exceptional hockey. Then the penalties started coming... naturally.
Host pathetic is it that we're discussing whether one well-played half of one period helps push this game to 'best of season' status?
Ugh.
The Flyers team that played last night bears no resemblance to the bumbling, inept, and passionless group of flags that spent most of this season getting buried and humiliated by other teams.
The team last night looked like a legitimate playoff team, epsecially since their goalie didn't look like one of Jerry's kids in net.
they've actually been playing well since the all-star break, they haven't gotten a ton of wins, but they have at least been competent and playing hard.
when forsbergs footsie fits in his shoe they are a different team
Quote from: ice grillin you on February 13, 2007, 12:43:58 PM
when forsbergs footsie fits in his shoe they are a different team
Cinderfella?
some stuff from the good ol' days...
Hexy Clips
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aqe8wlQ2ybU
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_JHSXkD98_k
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DR-ZgMz3FIU
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nPWID7eL3Wo
when Chelios took out Propp, cheap shot all the way...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LHr4nGcwZP8
http://www.hockeybuzz.com/blog.php?post_id=5491
QuoteMajor Forsberg News could be Coming
Today @ 3:29 PM ET |
According to two sources, the Peter Forsberg saga is coming to a head and the prospect of Peter leaving Philadelphia is looking greater at this hour.
One source, a member of the Leafs television crew who is setting up in Philadelphia now for tonight's game, informed me that Peter Forsberg was at the Wachovia Center around noon today. For those of you not aware, the Flyers morning skate takes place in South Jersey, not at the Wachovia Center, so it is somewhat surprising for Peter to be at Wachovia Center so early on the day of the game.
Three separate sources in Nashville report that they heard that a deadline of this coming weekend has been given by the Flyers to resolve the situation. A dependable league source emailed me saying that it's heating up again... "lots of phone calls now".
At this point I would not be surprised to see this go down at any moment and I would bet that Predators are the most likely destination for Forsberg. I have even heard the name of 2005 1st round pick Ryan Parent (not a bad Philly surname) mentioned as possibly key to the deal. That comes from a good source, however, the names being thrown around are changing every minute.
I'm about to make some phone calls to key people involved and I'll report back with anything I can based on the information that I receive.
Me and Forsberg are good buddies, as you all know. I'm devastated.
Parent's a defensive defenseman - I read his bio, sounds like a good prospect. I hope just hope Holmgren knows what he's doing.
Nashville appears to be in the lead for him, here's another rumor I found:
Alexander Radulov (http://www2.sportsnet.ca/hockey/nhl/players/Alexander_Radulov/) plus 2 1st rounders
That would be a steal
lol....eklund
that guy is a douche.
Flyers give Forsberg an ultimatum over contract
http://www.philly.com/mld/philly/16707658.htm
By Tim Panaccio
INQUIRER STAFF WRITER
The Flyers have given Peter Forsberg a deadline for a decision and it's this weekend.
Club chairman Ed Snider met with the Swedish center this afternoon and told him he wanted to know before Sunday whether he intends to re-sign with the team or whether he will waive his no-trade clause.
Forsberg said the meeting went well. "I'm sure it will all be settled by the weekend. I am sure something's going to happen. I don't know if it is a deadline but both of us want this settled as soon as we can."
Forsberg previously said he didn't want to put a deadline on an answer because he is uncertain as to the health status of his surgically-repaired right foot, although he admits it is much better than weeks ago.
Calls to both Comcast President Peter Luukko and general manager Paul Holmgren were not returned.
Flyers officials referred the matter to Snider for comment.
Forsberg scratched. Rumors say Flyers are very close with Predators for a deal with players and picks.
Sources tell TSN the Nashville Predators have agreed to trade Scottie Upshall, Ryan Parent, a first round pick and a third round pick to the Philadelphia Flyers for Peter Forsbeg.
From www.tsn.ca
That's a strong indication he's gone - I hope the deal for Radulov and picks is true
Read above, I updated it. He's gone.
Like the deal a lot for the Flyers.
Parent has potential to be a solid defenseman. Found this in regards to Upshall:
Assets: Is a fiery competitor and backs down from no one. Has solid skating ability and loves to work the corners.
Flaws: Needs to add strength to his frame in order to thrive in the pro game. Must show he can back up his trash-talking ways.
Career potential: Third line agitator.
The draft is weak this year so its hard to get excited by the picks. I was really hoping we'd get Radulov, I would have traded him straight up for Forsberg. This trade is 'meh'.
Philly.com link (http://www.philly.com/mld/philly/16708337.htm) Same trade different source.
parent had a great world junior tourney last year but has taken some steps back since...he has a chance tho to be a real good second pairing defenseman if he develops...he can move the puck and skate and is an excellent penalty killer
Upshall was picked 2 spots after Pitkanen in 2002, and Parent was the first round pick in 2005 (18th overall)
Forsberg just said in his press conference that he won't re-sign with Nashville before the start of free agency and would like to come back to Philly if they want him back....
Add Forsberg to the list of marquee athletes signed or drafted by Philly teams that came and went without winning a championship for the town:
Terrell Owens
Curt Schilling
Allen Iverson
and many more.
Roenick
Lindros
Webber
Danny Tartabull :-\
Gregg Jeffries
Steve Everitt
Dikembe Mutombo
John LeClair
Andy Ashby
if by chance forsberg does sign with nashville....
The third-round pick would change to a much higher pick - probably a first-round pick -if Forsberg were to re-sign this summer with Nashville instead of the Flyers. Forsberg can become an unrestricted free agent on July 1.
Philly Nashville will make it seem like they're waiting until he's a free agent just to not have to give up as much of a pick, but then some other team will pony up more dough, and Stallworth Forsberg will be gone.
Why does Nashville have a hockey team?
Quote from: MDS on February 15, 2007, 10:10:44 PM
Why does Nashville have a hockey team?
Gary Butteman
Like SD i would have rather gotten Radulov or Weber instead of the injured Parent. But the flyers still ended up with Parent a early 1st rounder, Upshall who was also a top10 pick, then add in a first and a third. For the Flyers its a great trade, values go down getting closer to the deadline and they do have a very good chance of re signing him after the season if he wants.
its an amazing trade considering forsbergs footsie problems and the fact he admitted he would love to resign with the flyers in the summer...no way could they have expected to get radulov...they got more than i ever thought they would
I would be surprised... perhaps even a bit shocked... to see Forsberg actually re-sign with the Flyers.
Quote from: ice grillin you on February 16, 2007, 06:25:34 AM
its an amazing trade considering forsbergs footsie problems and the fact he admitted he would love to resign with the flyers in the summer...no way could they have expected to get radulov...they got more than i ever thought they would
Agreed. Nashville gave up a shteinload considering this trade might end up being a three month rental.
nashvilles take on the trade....
http://www.tennessean.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?Date=20070216&Category=SPORTS02&ArtNo=702160451&SectionCat=&Template=printart
Nashville is 1 point behind Buffalo for the best record in the NHL and the rednecks don't care, so they needed another superstar besides Kariya. It still won't matter, but...
If Nashville wins the Stanley Cup, have we hit a new low as a sports town?
If Nashville wins the Stanley Cup, you can expect the NHL to be long forgotten in 5 years.
seriously, tampa bay, carolina, nashville.
those cities just scream ice hockey.
The rule changes (aside from the shootout) were a great idea, but if they want the sport to survive they need to get rid of all the fighting rules. Bring back bench clearing brawls and let fights go. No one wants to see Disney on Ice, fighting is what made the sport so popular. The 'finesse' NHL is crap. Expanding to warm weather cities and cities whose fans were fairweather was equally stupid.
I've said it before and I'll say it again. Less teams, less money, smaller markets, only northern cities = the only way to go. Yes, some Euro's might decide its not worth it to come over. But whatever. They're all Hoydas anyway.
Bring back Hartford and Winnipeg!
As ED said, the preds are in first an no one there cares. The owner just got killed by a canadian paper prior to this trade basically calling the entire organization a joke for its fanbase. This was a move taht that organization needed to make, but then again, the Predators board was fighting this morning about how they needed a forward and not a center :-D
the Predators board was fighting this morning about how they needed a forward and not a center
i dont know whether to laugh or cry
It's a little-known fact that Forsberg's best position is goalie.
Quote from: ice grillin you on February 16, 2007, 09:44:51 PM
the Predators board was fighting this morning about how they needed a forward and not a center
i dont know whether to laugh or cry
Laugh or cry at the Predators fans for being lame or at Seabiscuit for being on their message board?
Hey hey, im not ED :-D
Upshaw is starting on the 2nd line today
Flyers up 4-2 in the 3rd (Upshall scored). Some great hits today. Shannahan just got knocked the farg out.
Quote from: SD_Eagle on February 17, 2007, 03:18:53 PM
Flyers up 4-2 in the 3rd (Upshall scored). Some great hits today. Shannahan just got knocked the farg out.
Knuble and Shanahan collided - both were knocked out of the game. According to the Rangers announcers, Shanahan was responsive and could move his legs. He was taken to the hospital on a body board.
Knuble was helped off the ice and looked woozy. The only update on him was that his eye was swollen shut, and the trainers were deciding whether a trip to the hospital was necessary.
Marek Malik was hurt by a hit from Simon Gagne. :o
Lundqvist was hurt in the shoulder by a shot... can't remember from whom, but he finished the 2nd period, but could not start the 3rd.
And Aaron Ward hurt his hand in the fight against Picard. :-D
Picard was a beast today. Hatcher sucked today but he did have a nice hit on Jagr.
No offense ED ;D That hit by Hatch on Jagerpuss is worth a goal anyday. Great game, Knuble will be out a week or 2 but overall they played really well. Also Avery is the biggest flamer on the ice other than Holleweg
great game today! nice to some older school hockey, lotsa hitting and a few fights (except Pitkanen's shying away from one).
Also good to see the Flyers win without Forsberg.
Avery is a funckin homo.
Quote from: dis12 on February 17, 2007, 07:18:08 PM
Also good to see the Flyers win without Forsberg.
Considering the season, let's not get greedy about the circumstances.
Quote from: SD_Eagle on February 17, 2007, 04:16:27 PM
Picard was a beast today. Hatcher sucked today but he did have a nice hit on Jagr.
the ref had a nice hit on Jagrpuss too.
Article on Cherapanov (http://www.philly.com/mld/philly/sports/16722858.htm)
QuoteHatcher: Next to go?
Now that Peter Forsberg has been traded, is Derian Hatcher next?
There are at least three clubs actively looking at Hatcher as the Feb. 27 trade deadline approaches, including Edmonton, Dallas and San Jose. Hatcher believes that Detroit is also interested in him.
"I want to stay here," Hatcher - who likes being a Flyer, likes the area, and enjoys the lifestyle here - said this week. "I would rather not leave. It's a [hassle] moving again. But if they want to trade me... don't want me anymore, I would go."
If Hatcher has any trade value they need to move him immediately.
Hatcher's not that bad, he's held his own this year. He's looked bad on a few plays, sure, but he hasn't killed them like he did last year.
Who cares. Trade him immediately for whatever they can get.
get bent
Retro-zing! AIDS.
Quote from: FFatPatt on February 18, 2007, 09:25:11 AM
AIDS.
why do you always feel the need to get inappropriate?
QuoteNew York's power play that scored six times in the previous nine chances was 1-for-9. ... Philadelphia, 2-3-1 against New York, has killed 36 of 38 short-handed situations against the Rangers. ... Avery got into a postgame shouting match with Flyers assistant coach Craig Berube in the hallway between the dressing rooms. Berube had 3,149 penalty minutes in 1,054 NHL games.
I got a chuckle out of that.
Let's just hope the Flyers don't blow the #1 pick by playing too well down the stretch.
Quote from: SunMo on February 18, 2007, 09:27:27 AM
Quote from: FFatPatt on February 18, 2007, 09:25:11 AM
AIDS.
why do you always feel the need to get inappropriate?
Wow, I didn't even type that. They must have added a filter to me or something. AIDS.
Quote from: Jerome99RIP on February 18, 2007, 09:54:45 AM
QuoteNew York's power play that scored six times in the previous nine chances was 1-for-9. ... Philadelphia, 2-3-1 against New York, has killed 36 of 38 short-handed situations against the Rangers. ... Avery got into a postgame shouting match with Flyers assistant coach Craig Berube in the hallway between the dressing rooms. Berube had 3,149 penalty minutes in 1,054 NHL games.
I got a chuckle out of that.
Let's just hope the Flyers don't blow the #1 pick by playing too well down the stretch.
no chance they screw this up, they are waaay too down in the standings.
Unlike the Sixers who SHOULD be losing every game (ala Celtics).
There's a lottery. They can't tank.
Recchi told reporters that he doesn't see Forsberg returning because Forsberg doesn't have strong ties to Philadelphia like Recchi did with Pittsburgh....
(http://us.news2.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/ap/20070217/capt.tnmh11502171949.predators_forsberg_hockey_tnmh115.jpg) (http://us.news2.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/ap/20070218/capt.tnmh12902180406.wild_predators_hockey_tnmh129.jpg)
Hasn't Forsberg himself said that he wants to come back? Seems like he would probably know better than Recchi.
Recchi is a BSRB
Not sure if this video of Cherepanov was posted (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c5SJSG9AW54&mode=related&search=)
Another reason to get excited about next year....Steve Downie (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_jxeNziXS-c)
not good news about Knuble, possible season ending. This better not turn into Primeau-Pt. 2
Quote"I don't remember too much," Knuble said after the game. "I just remember getting myself to sit up. I was just being a little out of whack.
"I don't remember getting on the ice, or the shift or what happened. I just know there was a collision. I just wanted to get off the ice and out of the game. I didn't know where I was. My face feels like it is broken a little bit."
http://video.google.com/googleplayer.swf?docId=-1954151794070317070&hl
feed of the Rangers broadcast when Fedurok almost killed Jagr
Went to tonights game, got a chance to meet and chat with Dornhoffer, Parent, and Kelley. Game was entertaining even though they lost. Richards/Mara fight I'd have to rule in favor of Mara but Richards got a few good blows in. Upshall had a goal and assist.
Richards is 5'11'' Mara 6'4".... Richards wins in my book fighing a guy that big and getting the draw
Richards lost
Quote from: dis12 on February 19, 2007, 08:53:12 AM
not good news about Knuble, possible season ending. This better not turn into Primeau-Pt. 2
Quote"I don't remember too much," Knuble said after the game. "I just remember getting myself to sit up. I was just being a little out of whack.
"I don't remember getting on the ice, or the shift or what happened. I just know there was a collision. I just wanted to get off the ice and out of the game. I didn't know where I was. My face feels like it is broken a little bit."
Um, there was no concussion. How could it be like Primeau? ???
Going against a guy SD who's that big, and to get that many good shots in by richards makes it a Draw. Richards=GAWD
richards lost but theres a reason why hes easily my favorite athlete in the city right now and one of my favorites ever...he takes on a guy twice his size to try and steal the momentum back from the bruins who had just scored...i wanna have mike richard babies
Quote from: PhillyGirl on February 20, 2007, 09:33:19 AM
Quote from: dis12 on February 19, 2007, 08:53:12 AM
not good news about Knuble, possible season ending. This better not turn into Primeau-Pt. 2
Quote"I don't remember too much," Knuble said after the game. "I just remember getting myself to sit up. I was just being a little out of whack.
"I don't remember getting on the ice, or the shift or what happened. I just know there was a collision. I just wanted to get off the ice and out of the game. I didn't know where I was. My face feels like it is broken a little bit."
Um, there was no concussion. How could it be like Primeau? ???
career ending injury, that's how. but fortunately, he'll probably miss the rest of the season.
Quote from: ice grillin you on February 20, 2007, 12:25:52 PM
richards lost but theres a reason why hes easily my favorite athlete in the city right now and one of my favorites ever...he takes on a guy twice his size to try and steal the momentum back from the bruins who had just scored...i wanna have mike richard babies
that'll be one
ugly snuggly baby.
Quote from: ice grillin you on February 20, 2007, 12:25:52 PM
richards lost but theres a reason why hes easily my favorite athlete in the city right now and one of my favorites ever...he takes on a guy twice his size to try and steal the momentum back from the bruins who had just scored...i wanna have mike richard babies
What about Luongo babies?
Quote from: ice grillin you on June 24, 2006, 10:28:45 AM
i cant believe they traded luongo...hes the best goalie in the league...and hes young...god i would kill for the flyers to have gotten him...i would have even traded the gawd mike richards...in fact there isnt a player on the flyers i wouldnt trade for him
Quote from: Seabiscuit36 on February 20, 2007, 10:09:27 AM
Going against a guy SD who's that big, and to get that many good shots in by richards makes it a Draw. Richards=GAWD
I give Richards credit for having the balls to stand toe to toe with Mara...but he still lost.
Umberger got payback against that bitch brian campbell from Buffalo. Campbell was the guy who knocked RJ out last year in the playoffs and who refused to fight RJ on 3 separate occasions this year. RJ tried to get him to go again, Campbell bitched out and RJ just started throwing them :yay
How bad is hockey when a whole page is about fighting instead of an actual game? Hockey players are a bunch of ignorant neanderthals and their refs might as well have been recruited from the WWF.
Shorebird you havent watched hockey in 4 years im guessing.
Quote from: shorebird on February 22, 2007, 05:59:42 AM
How bad is hockey when a whole page is about fighting instead of an actual game? Hockey players are a bunch of ignorant neanderthals and their refs might as well have been recruited from the WWF.
huh? That couldn't be farther from the truth these days.
Quote from: shorebird on February 17, 2007, 09:03:49 AM
Quote from: Sgt PSN on February 17, 2007, 03:04:08 AM
I'd like to point out that I am the only true winner when it comes to hockey fights. Because I don't watch hockey.
Neither do I.
Those Broad Street Bullies are criminals.
[rome]thugs[/rome]
Quote from: ice grillin you on February 22, 2007, 08:01:27 AM
Quote from: shorebird on February 17, 2007, 09:03:49 AM
Quote from: Sgt PSN on February 17, 2007, 03:04:08 AM
I'd like to point out that I am the only true winner when it comes to hockey fights. Because I don't watch hockey.
Neither do I.
whatever abuse I take from my comments are more than worth it just to see u use the quote button.
it only comes out for special occasions
nm
Nolan Baumgartner (remember that great signing by Clarke this past summer?) was claimed off waivers by Dallas.
Flyers lose 5-2 vs Toronto
TRADE
Zhitnik to Atlanta for their top prospect, 6'5" 220 defenseman Braydon Coburn, who was the 8th overall pick in 2003. So we got Coburn for Freddy Meyer. Steal.
Here's an article from a couple of years ago about Coburn:
QuoteWaddell for the defense
By John McGourty | NHL.com
June 14, 2005
The Atlanta Thrashers have plenty of offensive firepower and, perhaps, a surplus of talented goalies. It is the defense that has lagged behind in the franchise's first five years.
So, Executive Vice President and General Manager Don Waddell has strengthened the blue-line corps considerably in the past two seasons and he can't help anticipating the maturation of his group, headed by "can't-miss" prospect Braydon Coburn.
"The only way you get big, strong defensemen is to draft them or wait until they are 31-year-old free agents and you overpay for them," Waddell said. "It's hard to trade for those types of players, unless you are willing to give up talented prospects. We set out several years ago to assemble a group of strong, skilled defensemen. We always take the best available player, but we have been emphasizing size and strength on the defense and I think that is showing on our depth chart."
Coburn was the Thrashers' first pick, eighth overall, in the 2003 Entry Draft. Coburn helped the Portland Winter Hawks to the 2001 Western Conference playoff championship. He was then the 2001-02 WHL rookie of the year at 16 and one of the top-four defensemen on the Winter Hawks. Coburn won a gold medal at the World Under-18 championship that season. His assist on the game-winning goal moved Canada into the semifinals.
Coburn captained Canada's gold-medal team at the 2003 World Under-18 championship. He got a long look at the Thrashers' training camp two years ago, missing the first three Winter Hawks games, but was still chosen captain of his junior team. He was also a member of Canada's silver-medal team at the 2004 World Junior Championship and the 2005 gold-medal winners.
Coburn is big -- 6-foot-4, 225 pounds -- and can skate, defend in his own end, work the power play and put up points. Waddell expects he'll be on the Thrashers' roster when NHL play resumes. He joined the AHL Chicago Wolves after the Winter Hawks' season ended.
"Braydon benefited from another year of juniors," Waddell said. "He made the WHL All-Star team and had an excellent season while providing good leadership. I watched him at the World Juniors and he was very good. He's not flashy, but he's solid and smart. He reads the play extremely well. His puck-moving skill is one his biggest assets. The Wolves have gone deeper into the AHL playoffs and this is a great experience for him."
Note the bolded sentence.
Quote from: BigEd76 on February 24, 2007, 04:04:48 PM
Nolan Baumgartner (remember that great signing by Clarke this past summer?) was claimed off waivers by Dallas.
since Hatcher was one of the D-men proposed to be traded at the deadline, we're probably stuck with him for now.
Wow, great trade for Philly. I liked how Zhitnik played for the Flyers, but he's 34, and still making 3.5 million next year. They trade him for a 6'5 defenseman drafted 8th overall 3 years ago who is still regarded as ATL's top prospect? :yay
The Thrashers must really be desperate.
Additionally, the blueline's future is looking much brighter these days, with Parent and Coburn added. Very nice.
ATL got Buttsecked by Homer :-D Basically as Ed said, Meyer and a 3rd for the #8 Overall Dman in the 2003 draft :yay
Damn what a good deal. At least it looks like the FO is finally learning. Of course they will probably re-sign Chris Theiren away from CSN for next year
BTW -- Blues fan checking in here.
What a great deal for Philly. Major props to the FO for getting something -- a GOOD something, for nothing.
i was reading in hockey news earlier this year that coburn has really regressed and isnt the prospect he once was...guess that explains why they gave him up so easily...still its a no lose deal for the flyers
According to Hockey's Future, he's the 33rd rated prospect in hockey right now (dated 9/26/06).
I'd say he has almost nothing but upside in his career.
Quote
After four seasons playing junior hockey with the WHL's Portland Winter Hawks, Coburn signed a professional contract to play for the AHL Chicago Wolves at the end of the 2004-05 season. Last season, Coburn played almost the entire year as a member of the Wolves AHL team. In 73 games with Chicago, Coburn tallied 26 points and accumulated 134 PIM, while maintaining a plus/minus of +12. In the nine games Coburn played as a member of the NHL Thrashers last season, he registered only 1 assist and 4 PIM, while maintaining a –2 plus/minus. A big physical defenseman with a nasty streak, Coburn can be very intimidating on the ice, but struggles with awareness. As the Thrashers will have some hotly-contested battles to make the roster, Coburn will have to step up his game to start the season with the NHL team.
People are worried he isn't using his frame enough, despite being 6'5. Regardless, TSN and other profile breakdowns of Coburn say he should still end up being a "Top 4" defenseman. A lot of Thrashers fans said he was their 2nd best DMan when he was with the team after DeVries and for some reason fell out of favor with the coaching staff.
Quote from: Eagles_Legendz on February 25, 2007, 04:16:37 PM
People are worried he isn't using his frame enough, despite being 6'5. Regardless, TSN and other profile breakdowns of Coburn say he should still end up being a "Top 4" defenseman. A lot of Thrashers fans said he was their 2nd best DMan when he was with the team after DeVries and for some reason fell out of favor with the coaching staff.
same problem we've had with other D-man in the past. Hopefully he just needs to be "motivated".
Don't let this turn into Bundy the 2nd.
From everything ive heard about the guy he's a faster Rathje. Rathje was damn good for his first 8 years. I love me some homer.
Holmgren took a break from trades to go sit in the dunk tank at the Flyers carnival
holmgren doing a pretty solid job so far in picking up some good young talent and freeing up a TON of cap space for the offseason.
I likey.
I still think Clarky is pulling the strings on Homer but either way, they seem to understand how the new NHL works now. I still am drooling over our future Blueline...Pitkanen/Parent/Coburn/Picard/Jones/Oskars Bartulis
Love what Holmgren is doing, getting Coburn was a steal.
Coburn fighting vs Devils (http://youtube.com/watch?v=4phammxfGE8)
boo
Another Flyers trade:
Kyle Calder back to Chicago for Finnish defenseman Lasse Kukkonen and a 3rd-rd pick.
Chicago traded Calder to Detroit for Jason Williams.
TSN is also reporting that Michael Leighton was put on waivers...
Great trade. Kukkonen played and grew up with Joni, he might be the guy to get Joni back into the player that he really is.
Love it, they got a good young prospect and pick for a guy who wasn't going to be around next season, also cleared up some cap space. With Leighton going on waivers I take it Esche is staying put.
It's fairly remarkable that they have been able to load up on young defensive talent for such a low cost. Hope springs eternal.
i like all the trades but you guys are getting a little out of control saying every trade is GREAT
most of these guys wont pan out...the hope is that one of them becomes a player and if that happens then fantastic
the flyers didnt all of a sudden becomes genious and all the other teams in the league idiots
the best part of all this is the cap room they are gonna have to sign established nhl players...also its gonna be real fun to track the development of the young players over the next few years
until they get a nhl goalie tho nothing really matters...next year is going to be ugly with the defense they are gonna have if they dont get someone very good behind it
Quote from: ice grillin you on February 27, 2007, 08:53:59 AM
until they get a nhl goalie tho nothing really matters...
100% correct.
They're on track to have 25 mill free for the cap. They are now stocked with talent and can move that talent into good trades or just develop that talent.
IGY do you want Giggy?
Dumping salary for young talent on the blue line might not be 'great' but it's something this franchise has no history of doing, so it's more than welcome.
IGY do you want Giggy?
i would definitely take him...but i think the price will be more right for biron
Do you really think Biron is a huge upgrade? I'd rather they go out and get a top flight goalie than a Biron.
I'm with RJS on this one, Biron seemed to peak. Ryan Miller is very good, I think Biron is just a step above Esche.
I agree - Biron seems overrated.
they just traded for Biron
Quote from: SunMo on February 27, 2007, 11:09:02 AM
they just traded for Biron
HE'S THE GREATEST OF ALL TIME!!! :paranoid
biron hasnt regressed...they have two starting goalies there and went with the younger guy miller...biron was outstanding last year when miller got hurt
giguere is better...but for the money i dont know...id rather spread the money around and upgrade the scoring up front...they arent winning a cup with whoever they get in goal..what they need is a competant #1 guy who doesnt give up bad goals every game...biron would fit that role perfectly
link (http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/news_story/?ID=197883&hubname=)
I dont think he's worth a 1st, its supposedly Nashvilles First. But this means either Nitty or Esche is GONE
I guess this is an upgrade. I'm just not that excited about it.
I like Biron but the more i think about it, he's a FA in june, why didnt they wait and save the picks?
It's because they badly want to lose the 1st overall pick.
holy shtein they really did trade for him....that is farging weird
this is excellent news...got biron for a measly draft pick
I would think hope that the Flyers got some sort of commitment from Biron before giving up a #1.
sounds like a conditional 1st (nashville's) IF he re-signs with the team
nhl draft picks are worth poo
Pittsburgh Penguins say hi
Supposedly its straight up for the flyers 2nd.
So they get Biron for 2 months and give up a draft pick? farg that.
So it's #31 instead of #28/#29. Not too much of a difference...
Quote11:18 - Martin Biron is now on the phone with Duthie. Biron says he was just getting ready for Sabres practice this morning when Regier told him he was going to Philly. Biron says he just had a "good conversation" with Flyers GM Paul Holmgren. Says he's "very excited" to be going to Philadelphia. He says he has "no idea" who or what he was traded for. Biron is VERY diplomatic when asked about how he felt about playing behind Ryan Miller the past 2 years. He says he "wasn't thinking about the trade deadline this past week he was just thinking about surviving the fight with Ray Emery" I like Marty Biron. Biron also says he would be willing to talk to the Flyers right now about a contract.
the plan is to sign him long-term...they wouldn't have made the move unless they had some indication from Biron that he would sign long-term
he was on the phone with TSN and told them he's excited to be a part of the future and will talk about a new contract anytime
It doesn't take much to upgrade the goaltending. Biron's fine.
Can't they raid Buffalo of at least one or two other players this off-season?
i think they were going to go after Drury, but now his head is mashed potatoes, so who knows
It doesn't take much to upgrade the goaltending. Biron's fine.
biron is a whole lot better than fine...now hes not gonna do it on the flyers cause they wont be good enough...but hes a guy that can win a cup
So they get Biron for 2 months and give up a draft pick? farg that
again unless you have a top 5 pick and its a strong draft year at the top nhl picks are basically worthless...you almost always trade a draft pick for a proven player if given the chance
and theres no possible way they dont resign him...if they end up not doing so that would be the proper time to bash them
Ig,
For a team like the Flyers that are beginning a re-building project, draft picks are more than poo.
Biron's a good goalie, but he'll do nothing for this team for at least the next two years. Then he turns 31-32 when the Flyers are ready to think about contending again...
... IF they re-sign him.
the Flyers are gearing up for being a playoff team NEXT YEAR.
they will have uber cap space to sign free agents and the young players will be another year older and better.
i really like this trade.
^ What Mo said...
Biron's a good goalie, but he'll do nothing for this team for at least the next two years
not true...hes a legit #1 goalie...and even if they arent good enough to win a cup with him he at least gives the team and specifically the young defenseman the confidence to go out and play and not make mistakes because they know who is back there...he also isnt going to lose those 3-2 games late with a bad goal....the kinds of losses that have demoralized the flyers this year...the kinds of losses that kill confidence in young players
by your reasoning they shouldnt get any goalie until the skaters on the team are cup ready...it doesnt work that way...you gotta win and develop before you can take the big step of making a cup run...and a #1 goalie is essential to that
and also while i dont agree it will happen sun mo makes a good point in that the front office believes they are gonna make moves in the playoffs next year...and if that is their goal then you absolutely cant have esche or nitty cent in goal
-- Denis Hamel was claimed off waivers from Atlanta
-- Leighton was claimed by Montreal
Im really excited about the future of this team they've given up
Forsberg-might be back after the season
Calder-steaming poo
2nd Rounder-crapshoot
Zhitnik-35 year old Dman making 3.5million
For
Parent-Young faster Hatcher
Coburn-Similar to a Rathe shutdown type of Dman, but faster
Upshall-Producing right away, former 6th overall pick who nashville never played higher than 3rd line
1st rounder from Nashville- ;)
Kukkonen-Grew up in Finland with Joni/previously made Joni look ridiculously good
3rd rounder from Chicago-Crapshoot, but the flyers have gotten good players from this pick over the past few years
Biron-True #1 goalie
Marty Biron can't even crack your list
Best theme song ever: MAH-TAIIIINNNN! MAH-TAIIIINNNN! MAH-TAIIIINNNN!
Quote from: Seabiscuit36 on February 27, 2007, 12:52:49 PM
Parent-Young faster Hatcher
Coburn-Similar to a Rathe shutdown type of Dman, but faster
Upshall-Producing right away, former 6th overall pick who nashville never played higher than 3rd line
1st rounder from Nashville-
Kukkonen-Grew up in Finland with Joni/previously made Joni look ridiculously good
3rd rounder from Chicago-Crapshoot, but the flyers have gotten good players from this pick over the past few years
Biron-True #1 goalie
This seems to be a little too rosy for my taste. I like these trades (a lot, assuming that they can sign Biron) but this makes it sound like they just signed a pack of all stars and future team captains, which is a little far fetched.
way far fetched....thats what i was saying earlier...
if just one of these kids pans out they did good for themselves...teams rarely dump great young defensive prospects...yet the flyers got three in one week?...
Even mentioning an NHL 3rd rounder as a significant acquisition makes the whole post laughable.
The flyers have made pretty good picks over the past few years with 3rds. In hockey its all about scouting and Luck.
this all reminds me of when clarke was murdered for trading a 1 2 and 3 plus maxime ouellet for oates...it was sign of the end of the world...as if clarke didnt know what he was doing after 20 plus years of being a great gm
ouellet cant even make it as a back up in the nhl
the first rounder was worth so much that the caps traded it and the guy picked is done
the other two picks turned into two bums one of which cant even get out of the ECHL
picks and prospects in the nhl that are traded way more often than not turn into complete garbage
True
Maxime Ouellet, 2002 1st Rounder (transferred to Dallas - Martin Vagner), 2002 2nd Rounder (Maxime Daigneault), 2002 3rd Rounder (Derek Krestanovich)
Looking back at that draft, there was not alot of talent http://hockeydb.com/ihdb/draft/nhl2002e.html (http://hockeydb.com/ihdb/draft/nhl2002e.html)
Quote from: ice grillin you on February 27, 2007, 01:55:38 PM
way far fetched....thats what i was saying earlier...
if just one of these kids pans out they did good for themselves...teams rarely dump great young defensive prospects...yet the flyers got three in one week?...
what??? you mean the new young guys wont automatically be next coming Orr and Gretzky? we got robbed!
The flyers have made pretty good picks over the past few years with 3rds. In hockey its all about scouting and Luck.
im not saying they wont strike gold with a pick...im also not saying all the prospects they got are gonna be bums...im just saying the odds are against the flyers
that said i wouldnt take back one single one of these moves and i think clolmgren has done a really good job turning the team over thus far...to get rid of stuff you dont need for the upside of some of these kids is well worth the chance and you cant ask for anything more
That said, the flyers recently Drafted in the 3rd round:
Ruzicka
Potulny
Picard
Jonathan Matsumoto- he's playing very well in NCAA
Patrick Sharp
now there have been others who've done nothing, but having a pick is better than not having one
Quote from: rjs246 on February 27, 2007, 01:45:57 PM
Quote from: Seabiscuit36 on February 27, 2007, 12:52:49 PM
Parent-Young faster Hatcher
Coburn-Similar to a Rathe shutdown type of Dman, but faster
Upshall-Producing right away, former 6th overall pick who nashville never played higher than 3rd line
1st rounder from Nashville-
Kukkonen-Grew up in Finland with Joni/previously made Joni look ridiculously good
3rd rounder from Chicago-Crapshoot, but the flyers have gotten good players from this pick over the past few years
Biron-True #1 goalie
This seems to be a little too rosy for my taste. I like these trades (a lot, assuming that they can sign Biron) but this makes it sound like they just signed a pack of all stars and future team captains, which is a little far fetched.
Reason I'm happy with these trades besides the obvious is that we're done emulating the NHL version of the taterskins. They were getting crap from old overpriced veterans.
Quote from: SD_Eagle on February 27, 2007, 03:19:48 PM
Reason I'm happy with these trades besides the obvious is that we're done emulating the NHL version of the taterskins. They were getting crap from old overpriced veterans.
Great point!
Damn, these past few weeks have made me very happy with the trading of old, sucky, contracts for prospects. Then I see they got Marty Biron, that just made my day.
:yay
jeeze, 29 NHL trades in past 4 days...and counting. plus waiver aquisitions.
I would also like to add that the thing I am most excited about is the fact that Biron will have a new Flyers goalie mask. I hope it is as cool as Vanbiesbrouck's.
Quote"It's an opportunity for me to move forward," Biron said in a telephone interview with TSN of Canada. "They are excited for me to come in and I'm excited to be part of the organization. We've battled so much over the years. ... I pretty much know Philadelphia's history in the playoffs and all that. It's part of my history now."
Conklin was an inexpensive pickup as he is earning $525,000 this season.
Acquiring Biron gives the NHL-worst Flyers three goalies. The Flyers also claimed forward Denis Hamel off waivers from Atlanta.
Starting goalie Antero Niittymaki has nine wins in 47 games, while Robert Esche -- once considered the future in goal after a stellar postseason three years ago -- has played in only 18 games. Esche can be an unrestricted free agent at the end of the season.
"This is an opportunity for us to acquire a goaltender that we really like," Flyers general manager Paul Holmgren said. Noting that Biron would have been on the team's shopping list this summer, Holmgren added: "Trading for him gives us a chance to get a little more familiar with him and he can get a little more familiar with our team."
Starting goalie Antero Niittymaki has nine wins in 47 games
Ha. Ralph.
Quote from: ice grillin you on February 27, 2007, 04:44:11 PM
Starting goalie Antero Niittymaki has nine wins in 47 games
He's fine! So is Esche! GO PHLY!
Flyers making a heck of a comeback. The Islanders were kicking their collective asses, both on the scoreboard (5-2) and in the fights, but the Flyers have come back to tie the game at five.
Coburn looks damn good so far
Quote from: Seabiscuit36 on February 27, 2007, 09:59:01 PM
Coburn looks damn good so far
Yeah he does, he's much faster than I thought he'd be....
Isles win it in OT. Great comeback though. Nitty's save late in regulation was sick.
The referee actually called a penalty on the Flyers with a minute to go in overtime.
The funny thing is I was actually rooting for them to lose at that point. Getting a point is one thing. Getting two is another. No need for that now.
It doesnt matter at this point Romey, the first overall is really no different than the 2nd overall. Coburn can really fricking skate for a guy who's Rathje's size. I said it before but his game is similar to rathje except faster. Kukkonen looked really good considering he hadnt even practiced with the team yet.
Kukkonen will be fine, albeit usually never spectacular. He just gets the job done well usually.
Coburn I think does remind me of a more talented Rathje, but also sort of like Bouwmeester in Florida. If he can develop an offensive game... :yay
Quote from: Jerome99RIP on February 27, 2007, 10:51:21 PM
The referee actually called a penalty on the Flyers with a minute to go in overtime.
The funny thing is I was actually rooting for them to lose at that point. Getting a point is one thing. Getting two is another. No need for that now.
Flyers could win (almost) every game for the rest of the year and still be last in NHL. Sixers on the otherhand need to lose every night to get to last place.
Remaining schedule: (playoff teams in bold)
at Boston
at Pittsburgh
New Jersey
Florida
Boston
at Phoenix
at Dallas
Atlanta
at Ottawa
Florida
at NY Rangers
NY Islanders
Carolina (only 1 pt out)
at New Jersey
NY Rangers
at Toronto (only 3 pts out)
New Jersey
NY Islanders
Buffalo
10 points back of LA and 13 back of Columbus with 19 games left
Remaining schedule: (teams way better than the flyers in bold)
at Boston
at Pittsburgh
New Jersey
Florida
Boston
at Phoenix
at Dallas
Atlanta
at Ottawa
Florida
at NY Rangers
NY Islanders
Carolina (only 1 pt out)
at New Jersey
NY Rangers
at Toronto (only 3 pts out)
New Jersey
NY Islanders
Buffalo
Why I heart hockey:
QuoteNeither Todd Fedoruk's bout with Chris Simon or Darren Reid's ensuing square-off with Arron Asham could be considered wins - unless you count what happened next.
"I asked him and he was willing," Fedoruk said of Simon. "Not a lot of guys go at 5-2. It's pointless. But he said, 'If you really need to... '
"I said, 'Yeah man, it's 5-2. I've got to get these guys going.' "
That's farging awesome. On both sides, actually. :yay
haha...yeah that is great...tho when youre a supposed heavyweight and get your ass beaten on the regular it doesnt fire your team up it embarrasses them
now when a guy like richards goes after guys far tougher than him that gets people amped up
Well, even if they're laughing at Fedoruk for getting his ass tanned, it still takes their mind off getting humiliated on the ice otherwise.
He lost the fight last night too. Simon beat his ass.
:-D
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qGCjmO9z6ng
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GN9r0uwEWv0
Quote from: ice grillin you on February 28, 2007, 02:06:18 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qGCjmO9z6ng
Fedoruk = punching bag. :-D
No doubt, Fedoruk had his ass handed to him last night.
QuoteBiron was asked if he might try to influence Buffalo teammate Daniel Briere, the top coveted free agent, into signing with the Flyers this summer. "I might," Biron said. "He has a friend on the Flyers, Denis Gauthier. They played junior together. He can do a lot of talking, too."
:deion
That was from PhillyBurbs. Here's one from Courier Post:
QuoteBiron, who has spent his entire eight-year career in Buffalo, said he'd be happy to help the Flyers court former teammate Daniel Briere, who will become an unrestricted free agent on July 1 and leads the Sabres with 77 points in 62 games.
In fact, Biron said he and Briere were talking about the possibility of signing with the Flyers just the other night.
"If I have more conversations with him the rest of the year and the summer, I'll definitely say something good about the Flyers," Biron said. "Seeing all the moves they've done in the last few weeks they're really moving forward. They did the right thing."
Briere's a good player but he's tiny. Flyers like their players big.
Upshaw game winning goal in OT!
Real nice game by Biron.
Upshaw looks great, he's young and has a huge upside too. He was projected as a 3rd liner but he's a solid 2nd liner with decent talent around him.
Biron started off a little slow but he played clutch the rest of the game. igy's boy with the SH goal.
flyers had 55 shots...carter 12 by himself
biron showed what a real goalie is supposed to do...37 shots against and in a close game he allowed no goals in the 3rd period and OT and made numerous huge saves
pitkanen was outstanding tonight played more minutes than anyone and wasa rock back there...hes played much better lately
Wait isn't it Upshall? Or is it Upshaw?
Kukkonen played great, Upshall when given top line minutes is really dynamic. I loved the team effort tonight, and Biron plays confident! He's not scrambling around like nitty or clueless like esche. Biron came up big when the other 2 would have given up at least 7 goals
Sign Biron!
Upshall's breakaway goal. (http://www.philadelphiaflyers.com/sightsound/highlights/media/070301%5C2428.wmv)
Nice. :yay
this is exactly what i was talking about a couple days ago...you need a goalie like this with a young team...it was games like alst night that they would have lost with esche or nitty as they would have given up a hideous goal most likely in overtime...now with biron all these young kids can play to their maximum potsntial cause they know whats back there and in turn winning games on the road like last night gives all these guys mad confidence and develops them
biron is not always gonna have the greatest numbers because this team and specificlly defense still is not good...but what he isnt going to do is be the reason you lose night after night
biron imo will especially help pitkanen whos played super tentative...now im not gonna put all the blame on the goaltending because joni has to be repsonsible for his own play but part of it is being terrified to make a mistake because if you do it gonna end up in your net
Joni played his best game last night, its definitely part Goalie, more a part of Kukkonen.
Flyers a major topic in GM's diary (http://www.philly.com/mld/philly/sports/16816497.htm)
after seeing their effort in the past few games, I actually got a stiffy watching the Flyers.
...almost makes me glad I still have 9 more games to go to.
I have to admit I've also found myself getting excited about the future with this team. And I don't get excited about anything. Other than booze. And boobies.
...and the upcoming Phillies season!
and cheese filled soft pretzels
And giving strangers the finger.
Quote from: rjs246 on March 02, 2007, 10:57:01 AM
I have to admit I've also found myself getting excited about the future with this team. And I don't get excited about anything. Other than booze. And boobies.
They'll do something to farg it up.
Have faith, dude.
I have to admit I wasn't too pumped about the Flyers getting Biron, but he is playing his ass off today. Looks really good. :yay
I'm a farging icehole, no sooner do I post that than the Pens tie it up. And now just got a power play. My bad.
i hate sidney crosby so much
Quote from: ice grillin you on March 04, 2007, 04:17:16 PM
i hate sidney crosby so much
I concur. The diving that flag does is bad enough. His pissy whining to the officiating crew is even worse.
Quote from: Jerome99RIP on March 04, 2007, 05:25:51 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on March 04, 2007, 04:17:16 PM
i hate sidney crosby so much
I concur. The diving that flag does is bad enough. His pissy whining to the officiating crew is even worse.
Also, the Flyers are his bitch(es).
i know hockey players whine more than anyone...but he takes it to unheard of levels...hes a POS
that one play today where he came in and slammed his stick under birons pads when the puck was clearly frozen and the whistle had blown was worthy of getting his melon smashed...and the flyers did nothing
First time in the 40-year history of both teams that the Flyers were swept for the season by the Penguins....
Quote from: ice grillin you on March 04, 2007, 04:17:16 PM
i hate sidney crosby so much
I understand that the league needs to promote its current/future stars to the mass media, but they kiss Crosby's ass every chance they get...it's embarrasing.
(http://us.news2.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/ap/20070304/capt.pagre50403042209.flyers_penguins_hockey_pagre504.jpg)
Fish article on the good moves Holmgren made (http://www.phillyburbs.com/pb-dyn/news/131-03042007-1308512.html)
QuoteRespected publications such as the Hockey News and Vancouver Province named the Flyers as the highest achievers.
They believe Holmgren got the most out of the Peter Forsberg auction. The addition of defenseman Ryan Parent, ranked 19th in the Hockey News' recent top 50 NHL prospects list, now gives the Flyers two hopefuls (Steve Downie is No. 17) in the first 20.
Scottie Upshall has shown he can play. And the Flyers now will have two No. 1 picks in the draft, with a 50-50 chance of nabbing the first overall if they finish last.
Picking up defensemen Braydon Coburn and Lasse Kukkonen for Alexei Zhitnik and Kyle Calder, respectively, also makes the Flyers younger, quicker, deeper and even more favorable under next year's salary cap.
Toss in goalie Martin Biron for a draft pick and you could have the start of something better.
Veterans such as Simon Gagne and Derian Hatcher know this is far from the finished product.
But they both believe the Flyers are now only two or three players away from executing a one-year turnaround.
"I think they want to go after big guys this summer," Gagne said. "I don't know if (these trades) are the direction we're looking right now but for the future of the Flyers, it looks very good."
One thing all this trade activity does is let potential free agents around the league know that the Flyers are bent on getting back into contention again quickly.
"We're going to have a lot of room under the cap and that's going to give us the power to go into the market this summer and shop for free agents," Gagne said.
"It doesn't take that much," he added. "... If you add a top defenseman, maybe a top forward ... then we're not talking about battling for a playoff spot. We're in. It doesn't take that much to get back in."
After some trade rumors didn't pan out, it appears Hatcher will be back next year. Like Gagne, Hatcher figures the Flyers can remake themselves with the addition of a couple key players.
One name that's been bandied about is that of Buffalo's Daniel Briere, who has emerged as one of the poster boys for the NHL's new speed-friendly game.
Currently, he's 10th in NHL scoring (27 goals, 77 points), making him one of the most attractive of the summer's free agents.
The Flyers have a little bit of an inside connection. Defenseman Denis Gauthier played two years of junior with Briere and has already started a little recruiting pitch.
"We were partners on the power play in junior and I got 25 goals, so I'm begging him to come back here," Gauthier said with a laugh.
Fish article on Niittymaki's new role as backup (http://www.phillyburbs.com/pb-dyn/news/101-03042007-1308511.html)
QuoteAt 26, he's at a crossroads. His contract runs out this season and he's a restricted free agent. But if he were really unhappy, he probably could go to general manager Paul Holmgren and say he wanted a trade.
However, that doesn't seem to be the case.
"I want to stay here," he said, then added with a smile, "neither of us (meaning Biron) has a contract right now. There's talk that they're trying to sign him right now. We'll see what happens."
Given the injury and the team's poor play, are Flyer management, the coaches, the fans seeing the real Antero Niittymaki?
"After I got the shot, it's been fine," he said. "It's not the hip. I'm not totally happy with the way I played this year. It's been tough for everybody. It was what it was. I don't know if (an evaluation) was fair.
"We've lost a lot of games and I'm sure they see if it's my fault or someone else's fault, whatever. I think you can play good and still lose the game. ... there were games when I felt I played good enough to win but there were also games that we lost because of me."
Niittymaki understands why Biron will get the majority of starts down the stretch.
"They're probably going to look at him right now," Niittymaki said. "I'm backing up right now and we'll see what happens.
"It doesn't change my stuff at all. I do the same thing. If he plays like he did the last game (at Boston), he deserves to be in there. He played awesome. I have to work hard and hopefully get a couple more games this year."
.
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Stevens pointed out that Niittymaki played a lot of games but never has established himself as the No. 1 starter on a playoff team. So the transition back to No. 2 shouldn't be taken the wrong way.
"He's still young and 82 games is such a long season, there's often a need for two goalies," Stevens said. "I don't believe the page is turning for Niitty. We would love to have him back."
not that one game means anything...but coburn looked like hot garbage today
Quote from: ice grillin you on March 04, 2007, 04:17:16 PM
i hate sidney crosby so much
(http://img370.imageshack.us/img370/8694/8906657ecdb85d2614bd699dz6.jpg)
Quote from: BigEd76 on March 05, 2007, 09:08:51 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on March 04, 2007, 04:17:16 PM
i hate sidney crosby so much
(http://img370.imageshack.us/img370/8694/8906657ecdb85d2614bd699dz6.jpg)
now, squeel like a pig.
They beat the Devils. In overtime. For real.
Quote from: BigEd76 on March 06, 2007, 10:37:58 PM
They beat the Devils. In overtime. For real.
I watched the game, and I still can't quite believe it.
Biron got a standing ovation for his 3rd period save. It really was amazing.
the save...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pqt8jmBJvow
effin with crosby...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gH2T6r3YaaY
biron = gawd
Richards was a beast last night
that goes without saying
That save was absolutely ridiculous.
Here's the extended version from flyers.com...
http://www.philadelphiaflyers.com/sightsound/highlights/media/070306%5C2436.wmv (http://www.philadelphiaflyers.com/sightsound/highlights/media/070306%5C2436.wmv)
SIGN. HIM. NOW.
Another goal for Upshall
the gawd and future captain richards has two goals four assists in his last four games
That save was absolutely unreal.
Richards was unbeliveable last night, he was running devils all night, then scored!
Upshall had a great interview, Geo you probably saw it too. He said that he's so happy to be here. Even though going from the Best team in the league to the worst, its been a life changing experience and a great one. He loves the direction that the team is heading.
When you look at the fact that the flyers are going to have nearly 28mill in cap room, then the amount of young talent already in the system(Giroux,Downie,Bartulis,Parent,Potulny,Nodl,Ruzicka,Ratchuck, Bodrov,and more) its going to be a very interesting 5 years
That save was just crazy, part luck, part savy. Biron is just calm under pressure unlike Nitty and Esche that flop like epileptics.
My wife and i were jumping up and down screaming after that save :yay
it was a great save, but overall, he was pretty shaky last night.
QuoteFlyers Notes | Agent for Biron would like a deal
Flyers Notes
Gilles Lupienwould like to seeMartin Bironin a Flyers sweater for the next several years.
Before the agent talks to the Flyers, however, he needs to find out whether Biron wants to begin negotiations now, wait until after the season, or test free agency this summer. He also needs to find out what the goaltender would like as part of his next contract.
Biron says he wants to stay and is already talking to a former Buffalo roommate, Danny Briere,about signing with the Flyers this summer.
As for Lupien...
"I left Paul Holmgrena message," Lupien said yesterday, referring to the Flyers' general manager. "I said I wanted to talk to Marty tomorrow before we proceed."
It would not be out of character for Lupien to re-sign his client in-season rather than wait for free agency.
Under the old collective-bargaining agreement, agents were often pressured by the players' union to put their clients on the free-agent market to establish a platform by which similar free agents could figure out their worth.
Things are different now. If a player wants to re-sign during the season rather than test free agency, there is less pressure on him.
"I re-signed Denis Gauthier in-season under Bob Clarke," Lupien said. "This would not be any different."
Gauthier re-signed last March.
Biron knows he's the No. 1 goalie here now. He lost his starter's job to Ryan Miller in Buffalo.
"I know a lot of teams phoned Buffalo, and they were told they didn't want to let him go," Lupien said. "Buffalo kept telling me this season they did not want to trade him."
Biron is making nearly $2.13 million this season. Lupien will likely ask for a multiyear deal averaging close to $3 million.
so are we all happy with biron now...cause when the trade was made a bunch of you (dont remember who exactly) werent too thrilled
I'm still sort of meh about it, but he's already been a noticeable upgrade so no complaints.
Quote from: ice grillin you on March 07, 2007, 08:39:57 AM
the gawd and future captain richards has two goals four assists in his last four games
Its about time, he's sucked ass all season.
Biron is a #1 goalie, he's not elite, but he's good enough with a solid D in front of him. He'll be re-signed and our goalie situation will be set.
IGY i was one who didnt like giving up a first for him as it was originally reported, still most likely its the 31st overall pick, but he's a definite upgrade over what they had. Plus, if you've watched the games that he's been in, he has allowed the team to just go out and shoot the puck and not worry about the goalie so much.
I would ahve preferred to get him as a UFA and not costing us a pick or getting Giguere but if they get him locked up for 3m a year they are teh clear winners of that trade
Quote from: Seabiscuit36 on March 07, 2007, 09:25:10 AM
IGY i was one who didnt like giving up a first for him as it was originally reported, still most likely its the 31st overall pick, but he's a definite upgrade over what they had. Plus, if you've watched the games that he's been in, he has allowed the team to just go out and shoot the puck and not worry about the goalie so much.
I would ahve preferred to get him as a UFA and not costing us a pick or getting Giguere but if they get him locked up for 3m a year they are teh clear winners of that trade
I thought it was a 2nd round pick, not a 1st. we do have 2 1st round picks. i'd hate to give up one of theose.
Quote from: ice grillin you on March 07, 2007, 08:47:24 AM
so are we all happy with biron now...cause when the trade was made a bunch of you (dont remember who exactly) werent too thrilled
If the Flyers don't sign him long term, I'm still kinda pissed about wasting the pick.
It was a second, but our pick will be one of the first picks in that round, so its like a late first. The NHL draft is more of a crapshoot than any of the other 3 professional leagues, and considering we have Nashville's 1st, that second became expendable. I have no gripes with the Biron trade unless he isn't re-signed.
Plus, if you've watched the games that he's been in, he has allowed the team to just go out and shoot the puck and not worry about the goalie so much.
exactly
and he hasnt lost any games and in fact has come up huge when most needed
hes played three games all of which went to OT and hes given up a total of two third period/OT goals
If the Flyers don't sign him long term, I'm still kinda pissed about wasting the pick
im with you on this....i dont see any way they dont sign him tho
Quote from: SunMo on March 07, 2007, 08:46:38 AM
it was a great save, but overall, he was pretty shaky last night.
Nitty or Esche would not have made that save, Mo. Sure, he was shaky and he's given up quite a few goals so far but I think a lot of them are the direct result of the defense not playing very well in front of him. When the team in front of him gets better, he'll get better and vice versa.
He is an elite goalie, though, as demonstrated by his time in Buffalo. Miller is simply "more" elite but that doesn't take away from Biron's excellence.
They simply have to sign him now.
QuoteBiron says he wants to stay and is already talking to a former Buffalo roommate, Danny Briere,about signing with the Flyers this summer.
^^^ Also loving this... ^^^
Biron was just a guy who got lost in the shuffle, he was stuck behind Hasek for years, then they picked miller early and he was a stud in college, and they made the decision that he was the guy. Its something the flyers should have done with Nitty imo from the start.
Just as IGY and Rome said, Biron has come up big in big situations where the other 2 have failed over and over.
Quote from: Seabiscuit36 on March 07, 2007, 08:44:19 AMUpshall had a great interview, Geo you probably saw it too. He said that he's so happy to be here. Even though going from the Best team in the league to the worst, its been a life changing experience and a great one. He loves the direction that the team is heading.
He was on WIP this morning and was saying the same things. He also told them about how he found out about the trade (from his teammates at dinner and his friends on missed cell messages, not from his agent), how he ended up with the Forsberg autographed helmet (Forsberg accidentally signed it in the locker room when getting ready to leave, thinking it was for a piece of Flyers memorabilia) and how Nashville is just now figuring out what hockey is...
you should all die for watching hockey when this team is 30 points out of the 8 seed.
youre just mad corky because you cant participate in the discussion...
but i tell you what get a hockey news subscription study up over the summer and maybe you can join us in the 07-08 flyers thread
Quote from: MDS on March 07, 2007, 12:46:37 PM
you should all die for watching hockey when this team is 30 points out of the 8 seed.
Yeah, we get it... you're a front-runner who only watches teams when they're winning.
Ass.
Quote from: SunMo on March 07, 2007, 08:46:38 AM
it was a great save, but overall, he was pretty shaky last night.
I completely agree with you, but shut up.
no problem
Quote from: Jerome99RIP on March 07, 2007, 12:51:57 PM
Quote from: MDS on March 07, 2007, 12:46:37 PM
you should all die for watching hockey when this team is 30 points out of the 8 seed.
Yeah, we get it... you're a front-runner who only watches teams when they're winning.
Ass.
to be fair, i dont watch the nhl at all. 99% of the country is with me on that one.
get ready for the playoffs on versus, if you have the channel and can find it.
I'm actually having fun following this last place team. No chance of my guts getting ripped out, unlike certain other teams that I follow...
Quote from: rjs246 on March 07, 2007, 01:22:10 PM
I'm actually having fun following this last place team. No chance of my guts getting ripped out, unlike certain other teams that I follow...
Couldn't agree with you more. I think it has a lot to do with the direction the FO has taken (at least for me).
yeah, same with the Sixers, but I don't like staying in the lottery for more than a year. Hopefully things are a lot better next season...
Quote from: ice grillin you on October 05, 2006, 09:40:31 PMthe hope here is that forsberg gets injured earlier than normal this season so they can get the #1 overall pick
good call
Quote from: rjs246 on March 07, 2007, 01:22:10 PM
I'm actually having fun following this last place team. No chance of my guts getting ripped out, unlike certain other teams that I follow...
The only chance of us having our guts ripped out is if they play too well down the stretch and lose the #1 pick.
I fully expect that to happen because, you know, we're Philly fans.
Flyers lost 2-1 tonight vs Florida. ah well
Game winnning goal compliments of Biron
Belfour was great tonight - too bad the Flyers couldn't capitilize in the 2nd period when they were flat out dominate. Too many shots hit the post. Oh well.
QuoteBiron talks set to begin
The Philadelphia Flyers are expected to begin contract negotiations with goaltender Martin Biron's agent, Gilles Lupien, in the next few days.
Biron, 29, is in the final year of a contract that pays him $2.1 million and is scheduled to become an unrestricted free agent July 1.
Source: Cameden Courier-Post
Link (http://sports.yahoo.com/nhl/rumors/post/Biron-talks-set-to-begin;_ylt=Ajo31IXyzopd62ntJHfTlu17vLYF?urn=nhl,26135)
LeClair was back in town and passed a Flyers physical (http://www.phillyburbs.com/pb-dyn/news/101-03102007-1311986.html)
Looks like he wants to finish the last few games and retire as a Flyer...
Sure.
Nice thing to do, but if it's pretty sad if he could've gone to a playoff team. If not, then alright.
Beat Boston 4-1 today. Gagne, Richards, Upshall (SH) and Afanasenkov (EN)
Quote from: BigEd76 on March 10, 2007, 04:45:17 PM
Beat Boston 4-1 today. Gagne, Richards, Upshall (SH) and Afanasenkov (EN)
Great shot/goal by Upshall! Another nice performance by Biron!
looks like Gags is gonna be sitting for awhile, the dreaded groin injury. ouch.
Upshall has been an amazing pickup, i really have to say he was mislableled coming over from Nashville. That shot was ridiculous yesterday
I don't know if he was mislabeled or just never given the oppurtunity (he only played in 77 games in 4 seasons at Nashville). 5 goals 4 assists in 11 games is great, whats even greater is he could have easily scored another 2 or 3 goals and that he's still learning a new system and playing with new linemates. Plus he's only 23.
Quote from: Seabiscuit36 on March 11, 2007, 11:10:29 AM
That shot was ridiculous yesterday
Yes, it was. (http://www.philadelphiaflyers.com/sightsound/highlights/media/070310%5C2444.wmv)
What a blast. :yay
Quote from: SD_Eagle on March 11, 2007, 11:53:49 AM
I don't know if he was mislabeled or just never given the oppurtunity (he only played in 77 games in 4 seasons at Nashville). 5 goals 4 assists in 11 games is great, whats even greater is he could have easily scored another 2 or 3 goals and that he's still learning a new system and playing with new linemates. Plus he's only 23.
He's been on fire and he seems to be jumping out of his skin with excitement to be playing in Philly. There's a lot of youth on this team now. Fun stuff.
The first team to be officially eliminated from the playoffs
Quote from: BigEd76 on March 13, 2007, 12:16:37 AM
The first team to be officially eliminated from the playoffs
Really? Shocking. ;)
Shutout in the desert
Best thing about last night was they lost while Phoenix and Los Angeles won :yay Yay #1. It really does suck that there isnt a Crosby in this draft. Next year Jonathan Tavares is going to be the # 1 and at 16 he's putting up better #'s than Crosby.
Niittymaki about to lose again, gave up Modano's 500th career goal
Upshall just scored again. 3-2, 1:17 left
Game over. 3-2 Dallas
homer to be extended two years
I'm for it. I was a little skeptical of him at first but he's cleared the cap while adding talented youth in the process. Plus, he's part of the ole boys club.
I read this morning that the Flyers swept the 4-game series with the Thrashers this year, allowing only one goal.
WTF
They pWned Atlanta this year. Who knows why, but they just play ridiculously good against them.
The rest of Biron's family finally arrived in Philly for the last 3-4 weeks of the season so his wife can get used to the area. With two young kids, they aren't big on nightlife and visiting places anyway, but he wants to make sure she likes the area before he re-signs...
I hope they stay out of south Philly, north Philly, west Philly, Jersey, Delaware, Chester, Norristown... well, there are a lot of places the Birons probably shouldn't see.
we have some space in our house next year, perhaps the birons can move in with 6 degenerate 20 year olds.
Quote from: FastFreddie on March 18, 2007, 08:27:22 PM
I hope they stay out of south Philly, north Philly, west Philly, Jersey, Delaware, Chester, Norristown... well, there are a lot of places the Birons probably shouldn't see.
Most of the Flyers live in South Jersey (as do the Eagles). Like Cherry Hill, Voorhees, Moorestown, etc. I'm sure that's where they're looking and the area is pretty nice.
Considering they lived in BUFFALO and all.
OMG there are nice places in South Jersey?!?!?!?!?!??
Your sense of humor is on the fritz.
He should buy T.O.'s house. I hear it's being offered at a steep discount.
Hahahaha! Holy crap. I was only kidding but it is being offered at a huge discount.
Look... http://www.40landingcourt.com/
:-D
How long has his house been on the market? 2-3 years?
I think my entire house would fit inside his garage. :-D
Another loss, another season sweep by an opponent, and yet another injury as Richards hurt his shoulder and is out two weeks
Quote from: BigEd76 on March 21, 2007, 01:13:22 AM
Another loss, another season sweep by an opponent, and yet another injury as Richards hurt his shoulder and is out two weeks
what the farg were the Flyers doing last night in periods 1&2. they didn't start playing until the 3rd. not that anyone cares anymore.
thankfully, only only 4 more home games to go to.
http://sports.espn.go.com/nhl/news/story?id=2807610
Jesus... :-D
...and that was less than 24 hours after taking a stick between the eyes from Belfour
Oh yeah...5-0 Rangers. End the season already...
Quote from: BigEd76 on March 21, 2007, 10:33:04 PM
...and that was less than 24 hours after taking a stick between the eyes from Belfour
Oh yeah...5-0 Rangers. End the season already...
The season's been effectively over since about October. We just keep punishing ourselves by watching the afterbirth of a team this year's Flyers have turned out to be.
Oh, and get of Fedoruk. He can't play, and now he can't fight. He's useless. Heck, put igy in there.
video (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YkGeBqWWXQQ)
I called my boy up when Fridge got knocked out, started screaming down goes fridge. I thought he was dead there for a second. As Geo said, he's done. He regressed both as a player and a fighter. Time for a career in the AHL fridge.
how do you regress from nothing
hes always been a punching bag and is a horrid player...hes a great locker room guy and thats the reason hes always been in the league...someone needs to put him down hes a dead horse...hes evander holyfield
He actually learned how to play the puck in anaheim, they even gave him 2nd line minutes. As as far as being a human punching bag, he had his time when he was mildly dominant but its long past. He's been afraid to take a punch and now cant take then at all.
oh how I long for the old-time hockey days of Schultz, Kelly, Berube, Brown, DuPont, Hospodar, Homer, etc..
maybe they can come out for the March 31st rematch vs. Rangers in Philly. >:D
4-3 Islanders
11 points behind Phoenix with 7 games to play
11 "up" with 7 to play.
They could still pull a '64 Phillies on us and blow it.
:-D
There's so much wrong with this column, it's not even worth writing Moran a reply. (http://www.philly.com/philly/sports/columnists/20070326_Ed_Moran___Its_time_to_stand_up_and_not_fight_back.html)
He should start covering horse racing or the world poker tour because it's pretty clear he knows nothing about hockey.
he should have asked himself, what the puck do I know about hockey!, before he wrote the article.
Die.
Leprechauns!
http://www.hockeybuzz.com/blog.php?post_id=6420
Sometime tomorrow morning, the Flyers are expected to announce they have agreed on a two-year contract with goalie Marty Biron worth approximately $6.8 million, according to my sources.
Agent Gilles Lupien told me this afternoon he was going to call general manager Paul Holmgren tonight to finish the deal.
The last time the Flyers entered a season where they had a clear cut, No. 1 goalie was 1999-00 when John Vanbiesbrouck was the designated starter under coach Roger Neilson.
"We're getting there and we could have some news for you by [Tuesday]," Lupien said. "For us, we want a shorter term. One year was too little. Five years was too long. We feel two years gives us some flexibility for Marty in future free agency."
Holmgren said he and Lupien are playing phone tag and he doesn't expect the deal to be done until Tuesday.
"We haven't talked today," Holmgren told me.
Biron met with Holmgren last week.
"When I talked to him, we talked about moving on trying to get this done," Holmgren said. "We want a guy to move forward with and [he's the guy.
"When we made deal to get him, we did it with the idea of keeping him. We like Marty. With Don Luce here, we had knowledge about his character and him as an individual and I think it has shown through. He's good in the locker room, on the bench and he's played well for us."
Marty seemed pretty content today at practice.
"We'll see what comes in the next few days but it's going in the right direction<" Biron said. "It looks like a good thing for both sides. It's not like one side is trying to take advantage of the other side. We've had nothing but positives.
"This is an organization that has shown over the years that it is going into the right direction. They make the playoffs 99 percent of the time the last 11-12 years ... Two years down the road are prime years for this group ... This is an exciting time. This team could be a team that goes from where we are this year to battling for something good next year."
Biron now then Kimmo Timonen and Daniel Briere during free agency and this team is an Eastern Conference contender again in 2007-2008.
Biron now then Kimmo Timonen and Daniel Briere during free agency and this team is an Eastern Conference contender again in 2007-2008
youre joking right
or do you mean a playoff contender?
Is the team really that far from contending for the East in your eyes?
The ridiculous circumstances that caused the Flyers to implode this year were a freak occurance, IGY. If they add the right pieces to the puzzle, they could definitely rise to the level of conference contender next year.
Look at the #8 seed and compare them to the #1 seed now. Is there really that big a difference in terms of talent?
I'm telling you, if the Flyers do it right with free agency, they're right back in the hunt next year.
if EVERY young player they have accuired and EVERY young player already on their team develops into a bonafied nhl player then maybe they can challenge for a division...but even if they all turn out they still would be too young to challenge for the eastern conference championship
outside of gagne where are their top notch nhl players that you think can bring them to the stanley cup NEXT year...even a player like briere is on a great team...how do you know what he will do on a team like the flyers with limited talent
i think youre way overrating players they have and/or counting the young players as givens as far as developing
i like the direction they are taking but lets not go overboard here...them making the stanley cup next year is laughable
So adding the best defenseman and best forward(s) from free agency to this team won't turn them into a contender for the conference?
A team with a healthy Carter, Richards, Gagne, Knuble, Pitkanen, Umberger plus the new guys they've acquired plus Biron plus whatever top tier free free agents they bring in couldn't contend in the East?
If you say so, dude.
A team with a healthy Carter, Richards, Gagne, Knuble, Pitkanen, Umberger plus the new guys they've acquired plus Biron plus whatever top tier free free agents they bring in couldn't contend in the East?
oooh scary
any team with joni pitkanen as their second defenseman is going nowhere near the stanley cup...hes been horrid this year...a good goal for them next year is to try and develop all the youngsters...enough so to make the playoffs and get some valuable experience for the kids
Whatever. You see doom and gloom while I see promise.
There's nothing new there. Not in the least.
no
i see promise
you see the worst team in the league (by far) going to the stanley cup finals next year
Splitting hairs is definitely your lot in life, IGY. :-D
If the Flyers make the playoffs next year, they are contenders for the Cup. That's how it works.
Quote from: Jerome99RIP on March 26, 2007, 08:26:31 PMLook at the #8 seed and compare them to the #1 seed now. Is there really that big a difference in terms of talent?
Yes. Buffalo is a hell of a lot better than either New York team
Splitting hairs is definitely your lot in life, IGY.
splitting hairs WTF??....you said they could make the stanley cup finals next year...i said try to make the playoffs...that is not evn in the same ballpark as splitting hairs
If the Flyers make the playoffs next year, they are contenders for the Cup.
lolol @ you accusing me of splitting hairs and then wirting this ridiculous comment
youre now in the all spin zone
Really?
The Rangers are 7-1-2 in their last 10 games, Ed.
Buffalo is 4-4-2.
Meanwhile, the 9th position team in the West (Colorado) is 8-0-2 while the #1 seed (Nashville) is 4-3-3.
My point is over the entire season Buffalo & Nashville have been better but when the playoffs come any team at the bottom has just as much of a chance to advance as those on top.
I'll chime in,
The flyers need a true #1 dman, also Joni actually needs less minutes, but he has improved over the past month. They need a topline playmaking center such as Briere or Drury i prefer Briere. They are at times the worst team in the league, but when Gagne and Upshall are in the lineup they are different. I really love where this team is heading and with the right additions, they will have an opportunity to challenge the Eastern teams.
Nope - IGY's right. The only chance they have is to sneak into the playoffs as a low seed at best.
Those guys never make the Finals. Well, except the Oilers last year.
Buffalo takes out the #8 seed in 5 games.
Quote from: BigEd76 on March 26, 2007, 09:58:53 PM
Buffalo takes out the #8 seed in 5 games.
Carolina is the current eight seed and they're also winless against the Sabres this year, so you're probably right.
Of course, they're the defending Cup Champions too, so you never know.
BTW: The Finalists from last year have an outside shot of completely missing the playoffs the next year. Weird.
I'd just like to add Jack Johnson is going to play for the Kings next year. FF i hope to god you make fun of Canes fans everyday for that trade :-D
Pinocchio is reporting that Biron is close to a 2-yr $6.8M extension.... :yay
Without major additions, and perhaps an insane amount of luck, I don't see the Flyers making the playoffs next year.
John Stevens is still the coach.
THEY HAVE THE WORST RECORD IN THE NHL.
This rebuilding phase isn't going to be a one-year deal. They'll be ready in two, or three.
They will be improved. They won't be that improved.
I want to be wrong. I don't think I am.
^^^^^
on point (thi im not ready to kill stevens)
when you are last in the whole league you dont go to the stanley cup the next year...you try to make the make playoffs and maybe even win a round
im assuming the insane amount of luck you speak of is what i said in regards to every single young play magically developing and doing so in the next 12 months
The pieces are in place, if they can add a good forward and good defenseman they should be able to make the playoffs next season.
No ones saying they'll be cup contenders, just that this team isn't all that much worse than the team that made the playoffs two seasons ago.
Who's ready for some orange kool-aid?
This might be the most retarded conversation ever. Is someone actually arguing that the Flyers could contend for the cup next year? What the farg?
Someone mentioned playoffs, igy took that as cup contenders, the rest is history.
I'm arguing they could contend for the CONFERENCE next year and that's only if they get the guys I initially posted about when this whole conversation started.
What these other guys are ranting about, I have no idea.
As usual, I'm enjoying getting IGY all riled up, though, so quit spoiling it you miserable motherfarger.
Someone mentioned playoffs, igy took that as cup contenders
rly?...romey said multiple times they could win the east NEXT year
and i dont know where you come from but in my country winning the east = cup contender
Well...romey did say contend for the East which is different from saying win the East. I'd say its more likely they'll contend for the Atlantic with improved play from their youngsters, a true #1 goalie, and a couple decent free agent signings.
Did anyone see Carolina showing up like they did last year? How bout Tampa Bay in 2004. Sometimes its just the right mesh of players with lots of luck and little injuries.
Quote from: ice grillin you on March 27, 2007, 08:23:02 AM
Someone mentioned playoffs, igy took that as cup contenders
rly?...romey said multiple times they could win the east NEXT year
Actually, you posted that. I never posted anything of the sort. I also never posted that they would win the Cup or even win the Eastern Conference. I posted that they would be contenders and only if the moves I initially suggested were made.
Reading is fundamental, dook.
QuoteBiron had yet to wear his new face mask in game action. It's orange and black and has the Liberty Bell on the crown, the Art Museum and Rocky statue on the left side, and the Center City skyline on the right. The back has a pair of animal claws with the names Oscar and Emmy under them.
"I want to keep that to myself," Biron said when asked who Oscar and Emmy were.
Did he name his kids after awards? I guess the next son will be named Tony... :sly
Another note: according to the Courier Post, the Flyers were going to bring LeClair back on the final weekend and let him play his final NHL game as a Flyer, but since he wants to play next year, they scrapped that idea.
O-fish-all.
One down, two or three to go...
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070327/ap_on_sp_ho_ne/hkn_flyers_biron_1
Quote from: Jerome99RIP on March 27, 2007, 10:30:33 AM
Quote from: ice grillin you on March 27, 2007, 08:23:02 AM
Someone mentioned playoffs, igy took that as cup contenders
rly?...romey said multiple times they could win the east NEXT year
Actually, you posted that. I never posted anything of the sort.
.........
Quote from: Jerome99RIP on March 26, 2007, 07:13:51 PM
Biron now then Kimmo Timonen and Daniel Briere during free agency and this team is an Eastern Conference contender again in 2007-2008.
Quote from: Jerome99RIP on March 26, 2007, 08:26:31 PM
Is the team really that far from contending for the East in your eyes?
The ridiculous circumstances that caused the Flyers to implode this year were a freak occurance, IGY. If they add the right pieces to the puzzle, they could definitely rise to the level of conference contender next year.
I'm telling you, if the Flyers do it right with free agency, they're right back in the hunt next year.
Quote from: Jerome99RIP on March 26, 2007, 08:42:53 PM
So adding the best defenseman and best forward(s) from free agency to this team won't turn them into a contender for the conference?
Quote from: Jerome99RIP on March 26, 2007, 09:58:23 PM
Nope - IGY's right. The only chance they have is to sneak into the playoffs as a low seed at best.
Those guys never make the Finals (sarcasm).
Quote from: Jerome99RIP on March 27, 2007, 08:18:12 AM
I'm arguing they could contend for the CONFERENCE next year
omg.
IGY used the quote feature.
and i hated every minute of it
Contend = win. Definitely.
and if you make the playoffs you are contending for the east right?
so really this whole time all you were saying is the flyers could make the playoffs next year?
If the Flyers contend for the East, then yes, they would make the playoffs.
I don't know why you continue to try and bait me, IGY. I posted what I felt was possible, defended it and supported it rationally, and you disagree with it. So be it.
They'd be as much of a contender as the 1995-2004 teams, which is what Rome said. That doesn't mean they'd make the Finals...damn Lindros...
They'd be as much of a contender as the 1995-2004 teams, which is what Rome said. That doesn't mean they'd make the Finals
thank you easy...thats exactly what romey said...and its exactly what i said was insane...the flyers next year have absolutely no chance to go to...contend...get near...even dream about winning the eastern conference
the flyers in 95-04 almost always had a chance to go to the cup
great biron interview on wip...sounds like a down to earth good guy
said growing up he was an eagle fan and randall was his favorite player
became a bills fan in buffalo and loved takeo there...talked all about his injury and said that if hes healthy he will really help the birds...seemed like he really knew his football...and in fact said hes really into football and baseball
Quote from: ice grillin you on March 27, 2007, 02:13:51 PM
great biron interview on wip...sounds like a down to earth good guy
said growing up he was an eagle fan and randall was his favorite player
became a bills fan in buffalo and loved takeo there...talked all about his injury and said that if hes healthy he will really help the birds...seemed like he really knew his football...and in fact said hes really into football and baseball
Him saying that makes him a fan favorite more than he already was. :yay
you idiots argue over semantics more than anybody i've ever seen
Quote from: SunMo on March 28, 2007, 09:25:26 AM
you idiots argue over semantics more than anybody i've ever seen
We don't argue, we bicker like children.
Get it straight.
i disagree
with both of you
Coburn learning on the Job (http://www.nhl.com/nhl/app/?service=page&page=NewsPage&articleid=298293)
QuoteEven more than his imposing size, the first thing that stands out about Philadelphia Flyers defenseman Braydon Coburn is his surprising mobility. The 6-foot-5, 220 pound defenseman has the fluid skating stride and rapid acceleration of a smaller player, coupled with a penchant for throwing his weight around.
That unique combination of assets made Coburn the eighth overall selection in the deep 2003 Entry Draft, one spot ahead of burgeoning Calgary Flames superstar Dion Phaneuf. But while Phaneuf has rapidly vaulted into the upper echelon of NHL defensemen, Coburn had difficulty getting full-time NHL duty until he was recently traded from the Atlanta Thrashers to Philadelphia in exchange for veteran defenseman Alexei Zhitnik.
Until coming to Philadelphia, Coburn spent the majority of his career with the AHL's Chicago Wolves. The 22-year-old brought just 38 games of NHL experience with him to Philadelphia.
"You can't take it personally. The Thrashers have been in first place (in the Southeast Division) most of the season and they were looking for another veteran for the playoffs. I learned a lot in Chicago, and I just want to help the Flyers now any way I can," Coburn says. "The good thing is they have shown a lot of confidence in me here, and I'm getting to play in situations where I can prove myself."
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With Philadelphia rebuilding around younger talent, Coburn has been inserted into the NHL team's lineup, paired with veteran Derian Hatcher. Through his first 13 games with the club, Coburn has one goal, four points, 12 penalty minutes and a minus-four defensive rating while often playing 20 minutes a game.
For the most part, Coburn has looked like he belongs. In particular, he used his strength and speed effectively in games against the New Jersey Devils and Pittsburgh Penguins, while avoiding turnovers. He earned a plus-four rating over the two games and was rewarded with his first NHL goal in the Pittsburgh game.
"It wasn't pretty, but I'll take it," Coburn says with a laugh. "I shot it from the blue line and it took a big hop into the net."
Coburn was never a big offensive producer in junior hockey, topping out at 12 goals and 44 points for the Portland Winter Hawks. Junior numbers such as those typically translate into a blueliner being a strictly defensive defenseman at the NHL level. Nevertheless, Coburn possesses a heavy shot and snaps crisp, accurate passes to teammates. Those skills suggest he could improve offensively over time.
For his part, Coburn says he worries mostly about taking care of business in his own end of the ice and any offense he generates is a bonus. When he's on the top of his game, he dishes out body checks and skates stride-for-stride with his man. Although not a regular fighter, he will also drop the gloves when necessary.
"I need to play physical and play with an edge. When I do that, it gives me a little more room out there to skate. That's something I'm working on. Hatch has always played that way, and it's something I can learn from," he says.
Flyers coach John Stevens, himself a former defenseman, says Coburn is just at the tip of the iceberg in terms of his development, at both ends of the ice.
"He can fly out there, and he's been working hard for us. It often takes defensemen, especially big guys like Braydon, a little longer to feel comfortable and really tap into their ability. Braydon has been good for us so far, but I'd say there's a lot of potential to be unlocked in the future," Stevens said.
As with all young defensemen, especially those on struggling teams, the sailing hasn't been entirely smooth for Coburn with the Flyers. In the NHL, scoring chances develop faster than at the American Hockey or major junior level and Coburn on several occasions has been caught out of position or forced into turnovers on plays where he likely would have had more time to recover in the AHL.
After his strong start, he was minus-seven over a five-game stretch. Recently, Coburn was victimized by Florida Panthers captain Olli Jokinen. Seconds after exiting the penalty box, Jokinen took an errant clearing pass in the neutral zone as Coburn drifted a stride too far over the blue line. The Finnish center then circled around the backpeddling defenseman, went in alone on goaltender Martin Biron and beat him for what ultimately proved to be the game-winning goal.
Coburn's veteran partner, Hatcher, says the youngster recognizes plays like these are all part of the learning process every young defenseman must go through.
Coburn faced his former team when the Flyers hosted the Thrashers on March 15.
"I told him you can't worry about mistakes, but he's pretty level-headed and mature. He's got talent and size and I've enjoyed playing with him. He's pretty aware of the situation on the ice," Hatcher says.
In 40 games played this season between the Thrashers and Flyers, Coburn has 19 giveaways, 13 takeaways, 30 hits and 32 blocked shots. Secondary stats such as those are important for a player of Coburn's style. For a player of Coburn's size to truly effective, he needs to increase the frequency of the hits and blocked shots. However, his takeaways (which would lead the Flyers defense if prorated over a full season) demonstrate his defensive anticipation and quickness with the stick.
"With any young defenseman, it's a work in progress," says Flyers General Manager Paul Holmgren. "We've seen a lot of things we like about Coburn."
Coburn's former Thrashers teammate, Niclas Havelid, believes that the only necessary attribute missing from the youngster's game is one that will fall in place in due time.
"Confidence -- that's something that comes when you start playing a little bit more," Havelid told the Atlanta-Journal Constitution. "When (Coburn) gets his confidence up, he'll be a great player."
Over the remainder of the 2006-07 regular season, the Flyers would like to see how Coburn reacts to being placed in a variety of game situations. Already, he has seen both penalty killing and second-unit power-play duty as well as being kept with Hatcher in late-game situations when the score is close or the team is protecting a lead.
The most encouraging sign so far is that Coburn doesn't seem to buckle in pressure situations. For now, he has seemed comfortable on a rebuilding squad that, when healthy, has become a hard team to play against. It remains to be seen until future seasons whether he will remain as poised in games with playoff implications. Time and experience will tell the true story.
"You can see he's got the ability to become an impact player," says Flyers defenseman Denis Gauthier. "You look at him at think he's going to be a very good player for our hockey team."
Wow - Flyers trounce Carolina 5-1 putting a serious dent in their playoff hopes.
Carter's Empty Netter Was A Thing Of Beauty (http://www.philadelphiaflyers.com/sightsound/highlights/media/070328%5C2488.wmv)
Great game last night! Craig Adams should have gotten a major for the board on Gauthier, and instead he gets nothing, and Jones gets 4 minutes for sticking up for Gauthier. The refs were a JOKE last night
in only 57 games ben eager leads the nhl in pims
eager is my favorite flyer next to Richards. He's at the point where he just gets penalties for being near scrums
Biron was awesome lastnight, the penalty shot they awarded Williams was bullshtein.
Last trip to Continental Airlines Arena and they clinched the worst record in the NHL, so they'll pick no lower than #2 in the draft... :yay
Flyers sucked...again! but Pitkanen is worse than suck, he fargin sucks!
with the exception of Eager's 2 goals (yes Eager), another horrible night.
one of the other Flyers boards is saying that Ryan Parent will be in the lineup tonight
I'm really excited to see him in action. He looked good against the US in the World jr's back in january.
Last nights OT loss in Toronto showcased the worst case of hometown advantage. Toronto was offsides, skated in, a hooking penalty was called on Carter which no replay even showed any flyer touching a leaf, then the flyers had to make contact with the puck 2 times just to being the PK. The Leafs won on the ensuing PP, the referee crew was an all Ontario crew who should be banned from the game.
I'm not mad the flyers lost, but im mad at how horrible the calls were. They were what makes hockey a joke.
I was reading John Buccigross's latest column on ESPN.com and came across this funney:
QuoteHi John,
Since the playoffs are almost upon us and the Flyers' season will be ending soon, I was wondering, who do you think should be the next captain? I don't see Forsberg coming back, so I'm thinking it might be Simon Gagne. He is a player that has proven he can be counted on, and he is going to be around for a while. But what do you think?
Go Flyers!
Dan Hartman
Hamburg, Pa.
Daniel Briere.
Hockey wood. :yay
QuoteHi John,
Since the playoffs are almost upon us and the Flyers' season will be ending soon, I was wondering, who do you think should be the next captain? I don't see Forsberg coming back, so I'm thinking it might be Simon Gagne. He is a player that has proven he can be counted on, and he is going to be around for a while. But what do you think?
Go Flyers!
Dan Hartman
Hamburg, Pa.
Daniel Briere. Chris Drury.
Much better.
I'd rather have Scott Gomez over those two
Quote from: rjs246 on April 04, 2007, 08:44:27 AM
QuoteHi John,
Since the playoffs are almost upon us and the Flyers' season will be ending soon, I was wondering, who do you think should be the next captain? I don't see Forsberg coming back, so I'm thinking it might be Simon Gagne. He is a player that has proven he can be counted on, and he is going to be around for a while. But what do you think?
Go Flyers!
Dan Hartman
Hamburg, Pa.
Daniel Briere. Chris Drury.
Much better.
No.
Drury is a leader who does all of the little things right to help his team. I have this terrible feeling that Briere won't be half the player he is without a stellar supporting cast like the one he has in Buffalo.
I'm not saying Drury would be a bad pickup but if you simply look at statistics, then Briere is the guy to have.
If you ignore the statistics, you have to look at the intangibles that Briere would bring. He's the unquestioned leader of the Sabres, he's the Captain of that squad and considering the type of young players the Flyers have or will have next year, they'll be in dire need of someone like him to follow.
I like Drury quite a bit but Briere would be a perfect fit in Philly.
Here's a nice article that describes how Briere is perceived in Buffalo by his teammates:
http://www.nhl.com/nhl/app?service=page&page=NewsPage&articleid=278965 (http://www.nhl.com/nhl/app?service=page&page=NewsPage&articleid=278965)
(Note - this was written two years ago when Briere was first named captain.)
I liked Fight Club...I never liked the Matrix all that much though.
Quote from: Wingspan on April 04, 2007, 09:24:53 AM
I liked Fight Club...I never liked the Matrix all that much though.
Alrighty then.
Tyler Durden plays for the Flyers.
Quote from: FastFreddie on April 04, 2007, 09:34:55 AM
Tyler Durden plays for the Flyers.
He changed his name to Ben Eager
you have to look at the intangibles that Briere would bring. He's the unquestioned leader of the Sabres, he's the Captain of that squad
id take either one but drury is the unquestioned leader of the sabres and is much more valuable to the team....briere is more talented tho
i think id take drury as he can teach the many young flyers how to play the game...hes the kind of guy you want a young team to grow up following
Get Briere.
Drury is on his third team already...
but briere will be on his third team if the flyers sign him?...and drury is on so many teams because other people always want him...briere was sent out of phoenix cause he sucked
im kinda with rjs on briere...he was alxender daigle before he got to buffalo...im worried that if he leaves that system with the perfectly fitted talent they have in it he will have a drop off
drury on the other hand has been the same player and unbelievably consistent since the day he entered the league...he is a complete player that can and will fit in any system perfectly
how about they get both?
Bring back Dan Kordic.
Get both...done. And Kimmo Timonen or Sheldon Souray...
Just get Drury and Gomez, or just get Gomez and a Dman and wait one year for Iginla to be available.
Quote from: BigEd76 on April 04, 2007, 11:39:27 AM
Kimmo Timonen...
He'll be the first guy the Flyers target. No way Nashville matches either.
As for the Drury vs. Briere debate, I'd be more than happy to have both in orange and black, but if a choice had to be made, I'd take Briere. For those of you who've suggested that the cast of players surrounding him makes him better, consider this: maybe
he's the one making
them better?
Judging from what the Sabres fans I know have said to me losing either one of them would be a crushing blow. Losing both would be disasterous so figure on at least one of them sticking in Buffalo.
how pathetic is this season that you let Brodeur pass Bernie Parent for # of wins in a season...in your own building.
only 2 more games to go, thanks G-d.
i believe last nites loss also clinched the record for fewest points in a season by a flyers team
who said there were no milestones achievable by this team...albeit the pathetic ones.
I'll be at today's game. Club Box 12 :yay
I'll be at today's game
(http://www.philaflava.com/forum/images/smiles/icon_eek.gif)
First time in years Mr. Know it all goes to a game!!
Hatcher played his 1000th game today :yay I like hatch, he's really worked to change his game.
I hate him less than I did last season.
He's clearly been our best defenseman this season.
Richards' goal was awesome. Congrats to Gagne as well....40 goals again and 200 for his career
60th loss today...damn
Nice goals by Gagne and Richards sick move. I have to say the refs have been absoloutely horible these past 6 games. Eager got kicked out basically and he called the ref everything in the book
the place was quiet, you could even hear the F-bomb by Eager.
1-1 after 1. Gagne with another goal...
3-2 Sabres after two
Flyers win last game of the year, 4-3.
time to look forward to the draft.
The draft lottery is on Tuesday. The Flyers, Coyotes, Kings, Capitals and Blackhawks are the only ones that can get #1....
Flyers fan pics (http://www.printroom.com/ViewGalleryPhoto.asp?userid=flyersfanfoto&gallery_id=648812&image_id=15)
ha! The side/back of my head made it to PhiladelphiaFlyers.com's fan page...
Did it feel good to leave Levittown?
yea...I didn't know there were other cities out there. Are there other states too?
oh, snap...
Good game by the Flyers to end this year on a positive. This year sucked, it sucked even more since i found a loophole in Direct TV and Comcast to get the flyers this year and shelled out 150 bucks for the worst season in flyers history. Yay me
Knuble interview on NBC10 right now. The players are planning to recruit FAs to come here...
Quote from: BigEd76 on April 08, 2007, 11:48:08 PM
Knuble interview on NBC10 right now. The players are planning to recruit FAs to come here...
Some of these players should be worried about keeping their own jobs. Pitkanen for one.
Joni is the most frustrating player we've had since lindros, and Lindros's only problem was his family. Joni has a very special skillset and the mind of a 12year old. On the flyersphans site, he's now just being called Corkey exclusively.
dont worry the flyers will be challenging for the stanley cup next year
Quote from: ice grillin you on April 09, 2007, 08:14:27 AM
dont worry the flyers will be challenging for the stanley cup next year
Without a doubt :-D :paranoid
At least they're in a great position, the most cap room available in the league, early draft postioning no worse than 2nd overall depending on their draft lottery drawing. A very good ahl system and some very good past drafts.
Look at what Nodl just did:
QuoteSt. Cloud State's Nodl named HCA National D-I Rookie of the Year
St. Cloud State freshman and Philadelphia Flyers prospect Andreas Nodl has been named the Hockey Commissioners Association's National D-I Rookie of the Year. The Vienna, Austria native who was also named the WCHA Rookie of the Year, was impressive in his collegiate debut year, amassing 46 points (18 goals, 28 assists). His 46 points shattered St. Cloud State's rookie scoring record previously held by current New York Ranger Matt Cullen (41 points).
Nodl beat out a stellar rookie field that included Western Michigan's Mark Letestu (PIT), Maine's Teddy Purcell and Quinnipiac's Brandon Wong.
And Mike Ratchuk was part of the MSU team that just won the National Championship. Both were 2nd rounders,
Giroux the first rounder from last year was just called up to play for the phantoms to give him a chance. Giroux had something like 140pts this season in Juniors
Downie the first rounder from 2 years ago is leading his team to the Junior championship after leading the Canadian WJ team to gold for the past 2 years.
Parent was picked up in the Forsberg trade and looked pretty good in his NHL debut.
The future for this team is bright, they just need to get rid of Rathje, Gauthier, Sanderson on draft day. Get Kimmo Timmonen, maybe a Scott Gomez, Briere just scares me but its pretty much assured that the flyers will get Danielle. I'd even pass on getting Briere and wait till next year for Iginla to hit the market.
Briere & Drury get all misty at the prospect of leaving Buffalo every time they're asked about their impending free agency.
Did anyone else catch that on NBC yesterday? They were talking about when the Sabres got stranded somewhere while a snow storm blanketed Buffalo and Briere called all the players' wives to make sure they were alright. The announcers mooed on and on about it.
Gimme a farging break. If the Flyers throw a max deal at either one of them, I don't give a shtein how much they 'LOVE' Buffalo... they're signing with the Flyers, period. Oh, and if they 'LOVE' Buffalo so much, they can live there during the offseason but something tells me that if you're making 8 million dollars a year, then Buffalo would be the last place you'd want to spend your off-season and vacation time.
Let them stay for all i care. Sure up the D, bring up Downie. Wait for Iginla, Collect underpants, Profit.
Quote from: Seabiscuit36 on April 09, 2007, 08:27:40 AMA very good ahl system
That's debatable. The Phantoms were the 4th-worst team out of 27 and the guys they lost to the Flyers weren't impact players anyway...
true Ed, but if you look at how many players were lost on callups no other ahl team was anywhere near taht #. The players moved were pretty good for the phantoms, they might have not translated well right now to the NHL. Heck look at who they just signed Matsumoto and Greentree. Matsumoto has played great since he left ncaa. Greentree is a project but a definite AHL force down the road.
The NHL held the Draft Lottery today, the flyers lost that too and ended up with the #2 overall pick :-D
48% chance at the #1 pick and they can't even win that.
farg that. Not that it really matters, but farging jesus.
That's alright. You said there was no clear #1 anyway. Who cares.
bahaha the flyers suck
Chicago and their 8% won it... :-D
who cares flyers will be challenging for the cup next year regardless and the pick this summer will help them down the road
I think Rome and IGY want to rub each other's asses.
I want nothing to do with IGY's fat ass. Yours on the other hand... come here you skinny little vixen.
:drool
Don't let my skinny ass legs fool you. I have a ghetto ass for real.
Bubble?
Exactly.
Come on, did anyone really think that the Flyers would actually get the #1 pick?
They could have had a 98% chance, and it wouldn't have happened.
They were actually a favorite NOT to get it, technically.
if there was an Ovechkin or Crosbaby in this draft I'd be pissed.
QuotePatrick Kane, Alexei Cherepanov, Jakub Voracek, Kyle Turris and Jame Van Riemsdyk are considered by some to be the top five prospects. All are forwards.
They were actually a favorite NOT to get it, technically
amazing isnt it...yet another colassal farg up by gary bettman
an nhl lottery is a joke period...the way its set up is beyond comrpehension
They put the extra restrictions in it so teams wouldn't fall from #1 to #4 because of bad luck, or jump from #11 up to #1, like in the NBA...
bios of the top forwards (http://chicagoblackhawks.com/news/news.asp?story_id=3829)
Kane is only 5'9" 160 and could get killed even in the smaller faster NHL, but look at the numbers he put up in his rookie year...62 goals, 83 assts
As i said before, Tavares is the next Crosby but he's not available till 2009. He's 16 with 71 goals
Draft prospects born in the 90s....wtf
kanes numbers are hard to ingore...hes been awesome
his size doesnt concern me...look at martin st louis same size and kane is much more talented...my concern would be that kane is a caron copy of giroux...and do you want TWO midgets on the right side like that
kane is an amazing passer...i wonder if he could play center in the nhl...i dont see why not
Quote from: BigEd76 on April 10, 2007, 03:28:10 PM
Draft prospects born in the 90s....wtf
For real. I remember being weirded out when I first saw girls in playboy who were born in the 80s...
Thank god there's still a sport for middle sized white boys
The luck of Philly.
Quote from: BigEd76 on April 10, 2007, 03:13:05 PM
They put the extra restrictions in it so teams wouldn't fall from #1 to #4 because of bad luck, or jump from #11 up to #1, like in the NBA...
bios of the top forwards (http://chicagoblackhawks.com/news/news.asp?story_id=3829)
Kane is only 5'9" 160 and could get killed even in the smaller faster NHL, but look at the numbers he put up in his rookie year...62 goals, 83 assts
Ed... Kane is listed at 5'10" & 170 pounds here. (http://www.ontariohockeyleague.com/stats/player.php?id=4581)
i like Vorcacek or Turris. Turris is going to play at least 2 years of hockey at Wisconson, but has a ton of upside if you believe the scouts.
QuoteQ&A with Mike Ratchuk
Written by DJ Powers on 04/09/2007
Michigan State freshman defenseman and Philadelphia Flyers prospect Mike Ratchuk enjoyed an outstanding rookie campaign that included garnering the team's Outstanding Rookie Award and being named a CCHA All-Rookie Team honorable mention. The Buffalo, NY native is the youngest member of the newly-crowned National Champion Spartans team.
Ratchuk spoke with Hockey's Future after Michigan State's National Championship win on Saturday night at the Scottrade Center in St. Louis.
HF: How does it feel being a member of the National Championship team?
MR: It's unreal. It's kind of like that monkey off your back. This is one of the closest teams that I've ever played on. It's just an unreal feeling. Once the first goal came, everyone just kind of knew that the second one would come eventually. We got it and took care of it.
HF: You're also the youngest guy on the team. Your first year at Michigan State winning your first national championship; that has got to be pretty awesome for you.
MR: Yeah! In fact, one of my closest friends on the team Chris Mueller was saying to me "I can't believe that you're a freshman and you're already here." I said "yeah, I don't really know what it's like to go through a couple of years at State and not be here (at the Frozen Four)." The fact that I got here in my freshman year is just an unbelievable feeling.
HF: Tell me about how it was for you guys having Jeff Lerg back there playing as great as he did.
MR: Well, that's just Jeff. The kid works hard. He wants to win and he wins, that's just what he does. He's just a true competitor. From the first day when the season starts to the very last game of the season, he never stops working and never loses his focus. He's just done an unbelievable job for us all season.
HF: Aside from Justin Abdelkader's goal, what do you personally feel was perhaps the turning point of the game for you guys?
MR: For us, I think we've always known that when we hit, we play well. Everyone knows that we're a tough team. Once we play our bodies we're a tough team to play against. Every time one guy took the body on one of their players, everyone on the bench just got up and cheered and I think that helped us a lot.
HF: When Abdelkader scored that goal, do you feel that perhaps it was destiny or fate stepping in or maybe luck that made it happen?
MR: For me personally, I think once it got into (Tim) Kennedy's hands, I knew that something was going to happen. He's just one of those players and he's been doing that all year. As soon as we think nothing is coming, he gets that puck on his stick and makes something happen. He's got skill that I've never seen before. As soon as I saw that he got the puck, I knew that he was going to make something happen.
HF: How did you personally feel that you did in this tournament?
MR: I think I did alright. I didn't get as much ice time as some of the other guys because I'm a freshman and they're older, more experienced guys that have been through the ringer two, three or four years. I understand that. It was a great experience and I'll never forget it as long as I live.
last years second rounders were absolutely great picks
If they pick a large, slow, plodding "two-way" center, you know that Mr. Clarke is still pulling the puppet strings.
Quote from: Geowhizzer on April 10, 2007, 07:13:02 PM
If they pick a large, slow, plodding "two-way" center, you know that Mr. Clarke is still pulling the puppet strings.
I'd agree if we were talking free agency, but Clarke's track record with the draft is pretty darn good.