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got a lot of mocks having the Sixers taking Eric Maynor from VCU, with some having them selecting Ty Lawson

I like Maynors game because no matter the crap conference he was in, he did great against his opposing big conference PG's--which is a very positive sign for the NBA....not to mention he is a true pg.

although these mocks dont mean jack shtein until after the workouts anyway, its probably making more sense for this squad to take a PG to groom before shooting guard in this draft because there are no standouts-- especially at the 19 position...or unless a trade is made with Miller for another current PG which is highly unlikely.

Jordan had a 2nd interview, they're cooling on Thibodeau, and Avery Johnson says he's not interested in the job

Unless this 2nd interview is a smokescreen of sorts, its looking like Jordan will be selected just from his ties with Ed from the Nets. Not to mention he has playoff experience--which Im sure Stefanski is most interested in

The only wrinkle is, Jordan basically had 3 all-stars on his squad then..and last time I checked the Sixers roster I didnt see anyone really that resembled a Gilbert, Caron or Antwan (except for Iggy)...so I wish him luck..or even better I wish Ed Stefanski some luck

Quote from: reese125 on May 28, 2009, 10:05:57 AM
I like Maynors game because no matter the crap conference he was in, he did great against his opposing big conference PG's--which is a very positive sign for the NBA....not to mention he is a true pg.

you do know players used to come right out of high school?

Quote from: reese125 on May 28, 2009, 10:05:57 AM
its probably making more sense for this squad to take a PG to groom before shooting guard

"probably"?.....they "probably" should have taken a pg three years ago in the draft because they knew miller wasnt going to be here and even if he was hes be just about done

ive seen maynor play a decent amount as i get a number of vcu games down here...he just ok...id be fine with him if theres nothing better on the board the time but hes definitely not good enough to take over a shooter whos a better prospect just because hes a pg...hes a very good passer but my main concern with him is i dont know that he has the explosiveness to consistently break down and get by people in the nba

well at 17, which is such a zesty pick for a sixers squad that needs perimeter help in the worst way, he might be good enough to take over your average ncaa spot shooter because of his upside

see i think his biggest negative is that he has no upside...hes a four year guy who didnt dominate small conference ball...if he had upside he would have went league long ago

so youre saying that the only way you have upside is if you jet early for the nba? interesting

pretty much

staying in college for four years = huge red flag to me

but more than that it means you have topped out...if you were talent ladened and had lots of room to grow before that you would have come out...i mean how many seniors are going in round one this year....two three?

however it doesnt mean you cant be a productive player in the nba...and in this draft thats probably all you can wish for at the sixers spot


id way rather have jonny flynn as he has upside for days

listen Im not touting dude, doing splits in the air hoping they get him...I just want a true pg with nice size. I like Maynors length and defense, and from what I seen and read hes consistent with his floater-which can be very effective

Im a Flynn fan as I think quickness goes a long way in the nba just getting by the first defender, but size is a problem as you also run into post up problems on defense and the ability to finish in the post unless youre money--and lets not kid ourselves the best smaller pgs in the nba at least alot have perimeter help to bail them out

Hell, theres a good chance Lawson and his ridiculous quickness could roll down to he Sixers, but again you run into the liability issue.

im pretty much alone on this but i think lawsons quickness is way overrated and will be neutralized if not exposed in the league...however if im off and he can get by people like he did in college i think his lack of height is offset by his strength and he will be able to finish better than most small guards

Sorry to see Avery not interested...that sucks.

And so does Eddie Jordan.

His style of coaching is based on a perimeter game. All Avery had to do was take one look at the Sixers roster and say no thanks.

What's Eddie Jordan's MO? Doesn't he run some sort of Princeton offense?

yes sir...but as you saw with Gilbert running the point in Washington all bets were off of actually implementing that style of offense in full

with this squad, they might actually have the discipline to run it, but trouble finishing it. The good news is no way in hell that Dalembert could part of that system. one... he has no inside game for it, but I could only imagine how many times that idiot would be called for 3 seconds

the sixers arent near disciplined enough to run a princeton offense

avery johnson is all pressure defense and pushing the ball...his offense doesnt depend on the perimeter other than having a point that can push hard on offense and pressure the farg out of the ball on defense


i question whether avery johnson even wants to coach with all the jobs hes turned down...either that or hes waiting for his absolutely perfect job

Quotethe sixers arent near disciplined enough to run a princeton offense

avery johnson is all pressure defense and pushing the ball...his offense doesnt depend on the perimeter other than having a point that can push hard on offense and pressure the farg out of the ball on defense

1) the sixers could very be disciplined enough to cut, move around and pass the hell out of the ball because they are scared to death to shoot the ball-- with no real consistent shooter on the team

2) in oder for Kidd to be successful he had to push the ball and either finish strong or dish out to the perimeter (which he loves to do) and the Mavericks had plenty of knock down shooter in that area

since the Sixers dont have either--its an easy decision for Avery

So whose gonna run the point in that offense? Lou Williams? No shot. I struggle to believe that he can be a full time point in a "normal" offense.

Are they going to re-sign Miller? Doubtful.

I hope they get Ty Lawson in the draft.

I also wonder about Avery's intentions. If he's holding out, he likely won't have to wait long with the amount of turnover there is in the NBA ranks. WHat job could he be angling for though?

Bottom line is they need a coach who is defensive minded and allows them to run and pressure opposing teams up the court because that is what they are built for.

he turned down the chicago job last year with a good young team and the number one overall pick in the draft at his grasp...it seems he either doesnt wanna coach or is waiting for pop to retire...maybe he knows something we dont

i had heard that he would take the job, if they just gave it to him, but he doesn't want to go through the process of interviews and what not.

I dont know if thats a rumor but I read that too

Avery might be afraid of not having a squad with superstars on it and taking a big leap backwards of not making the playoffs...but he might want to check his ego at the door if not wanting to interview is the case because last time I checked he had the stars and still posted a 23-24 playoff record

Dei thinks Casey is the leading candidate right now, and our new GM Iguodala wants John Kuester included among the candidates.

UPDATE: Hoopsworld says it's down to Casey and Jordan

Me thinks the best coach on the market right now is the one they fired 6 months ago.

Me thinks you couldn't be more wrong

Why would you coninuously want a cream puff of coach that can't motivate his players on a consistent basis...because his name is Maurice Cheeks and he played for the Sixers?

that's not as much of a pro-cheeks statement as much as it's anti-every other candidate that they're considering.  with the exception of avery, who already said he wasn't interested, i don't see any of the other candidates as being a definitive improvement over mo. 

i like mo and thought it was dumb to fire him so early in the season, but i don't think he would have done any better than dileo did this year.  i don't think he would have done any worse either.  they got about as far as they should have given the talent on the roster.  phil jackson, greg pop, jerry sloan or any other great coach in the game today wouldn't have done anything note worthy with that team either.  maybe they get through orlando with a hof caliber coach, but they still don't leave the 2nd round.   

mo got an extension off the premise he was going to improve the team from where they were, with the pieces that were brought in--not keep it stagnant, then failing. The players were not responding well. I thought it was the right move.

fair statement regarding any of those hof coaches improving the team to become championship caliber because youre only good as the talent surrounding you, but as a gm watching down on your team--you cant stand what youre seeing first half of the season so you need to make moves. ed didnt want to rush on a new coach mid-season so he stuck with a guy that worked with them from the offseason on looking into next season

and its all too easy to say any of those coaches they are looking to be bring in cant do shtein because of their history, but whos to say that the new system and coaching staff on both sides of the ball they instill on the sixers cant at least move them in the right direction. at least in the the next 2-3 years they grab some draft picks, relieve themselves of some bad contracts, make moves in FA and be right in it--wishful thinking but Im sure it has to be somewhat the train of thought here with the move

None of these candidates pumps my nads but I guess I'd be okay with Jordan. I just hope he can adjust his coaching style to his players. As far as the draft goes I'm hoping Lawson slips. I really think he could step right in and do a decent job. That he has an uptempo game might make up for his inexperience his rookie season.

Lawson doesn't need to slip. In fact if he slips any more he'll be out of the first round. He's already fallen as it is. Teams aren't so high on him right now according to draft reports.

Eddie Jordan. Done deal.

Meh.

3 year deal

Quote from: King Cole on May 29, 2009, 07:21:03 PM
Lawson doesn't need to slip. In fact if he slips any more he'll be out of the first round. He's already fallen as it is. Teams aren't so high on him right now according to draft reports.

cause hes a fat smurf

Quote from: King Cole on May 29, 2009, 07:21:03 PM
Lawson doesn't need to slip. In fact if he slips any more he'll be out of the first round. He's already fallen as it is. Teams aren't so high on him right now according to draft reports.

because of his size, he can still ball. He's a lock top 20 pick and I think he'll wind up going in the 10-15 range

agree SD. You got about 5 mugs in that position that are inching past 6'2/6'3 which is ideal, but I also think because of his quickness and FG efficiency he posted for Carolina he will go before the others

I think he has a good chance to go before Flynn, and Im not understanding why Brandon Jennings is rated so high. He looked like a lost puppy playing overseas from the stuff I saw on him. Hes got Sebastian Telfair written all over him

Regardless, I don't think any of the PGs available when the Sixers pick are franchise caliber guys.

yeah going 17 in this draft is like going second round in some drafts...its just horrible...and jennings is so high because he has atmospheric talent...i havent seen him play since he went pro and at that only saw him in a few high school games but he has more talent in his left hand than the obese smurf has in his entire body...id give a nut up to have a shot at him...even if he falls on his face at least you have a chance at greatness

again maybe ill be proved wrong but i want no part of lawson...hes regressed since his freshman year and i dont see him being able to go past people in the league...i think he can be a real good back up point or maybe start on some garbage teams but thats it...i like jeff teague whod id take a shot on in a heartbeat way more than i like lawson...the more i think about it the more flynn is not dropping out of the top ten so if they go point i think its maynor or teague....id be happy with teague i think hes gonna be a player....if not him then just go best available

His minutes, assists, points, rebounds, fg percentage and steals per game have all increased and his t/o per game have decreased since his freshman year.

Yep.  Regression for sure.

Quote from: Rome on May 30, 2009, 08:14:45 AM
His minutes, assists, points, rebounds, fg percentage and steals per game have all increased and his t/o per game have decreased since his freshman year.

Yep.  Regression for sure.

please watch him play and not go stat nerd on me...im talking about a pro prospect not his college stats which mean nothing when being drafted

hes definitely less explosive now than he was coming out of high school...injuries plus muscle and fat have knocked him down a  few pegs athletically...he came in looking to be better than raymond felton and hes coming out behind that level...thats called regression

I'm not sure I'd touch Teague, and this is coming from a Wake grad.

His talent is through the roof but he mopes, gets disinterested, and is sort of a hybrid SG/PG.  There were weird stories around campus that he refused to talk to recruits during visits and had a shaky relationship with most of his teammates. 

Depends on what you're looking for.  If you're looking for a scoring PG with potential then Teague >>>> Lawson/Maynor.  I'm not sure if he can run an offense as a prototypical PG though.

teague definitely can...the question is as you said will he....lawson and maynor we already know cant....ill take my chances with teague

its a zesty draft....go high ceiling everytime is my philosophy

lawson and maynor we already know cant be a prototypical pg?? you are baffling son

you do realize that players can get better and improve their game from where they stand now right?

all of a sudden youre pronouncing Teague as the best nba prospect to run point (whos not even a pure pg) and I can bet youre doing so because hes coming out as a sophmore. for some reason you have this thing that any player that goes 4 years has reached their ceiling going into the nba and you couldnt be more misguided

Quote from: reese125 on May 30, 2009, 02:19:58 PM
lawson and maynor we already know cant be a prototypical pg?? you are baffling son

you do realize that players can get better and improve their game from where they stand now right?

all of a sudden youre pronouncing Teague as the best nba prospect to run point (whos not even a pure pg) and I can bet youre doing so because hes coming out as a sophmore. for some reason you have this thing that any player that goes 4 years has reached their ceiling going into the nba and you couldnt be more misguided

i have no idea what youre babbling about....who said anything about a "prototypical pg"

name me a college senior guard this decade other than brandon roy who has come into the league and performed at or near an all star level because im having trouble coming up with any

hell name me college seniors period...id love to see how many have succeeded in the nba

If the Grizz take Rubio, then they might be willing to deal Conley. He's kinda disappointed so far and word is the Grizz aren't fans of him, but if they could get him with #17 and something else, then I'd probably do it. I like him better than anyone who would be there at 17 probably.

id take a chance with that...i liked him coming out and he made a solid leap from his rookie season...his problem from the times ive seen him play is he isnt assertive enough...he can take a lot of guys off the dribble if he wants but he just doesnt do it enough...to many times giving up the ball for no reason...its definitely a correctable problem tho

he also has a major problem finishing at the basket but the sixers have enough guys to do that....they just need someone with quicks who can run the show...i liked conley quite a bit coming out and id certainly take a shot with him...like you said whats better at 17

I agree, I would take Conley to be simply the guy who runs the sets and distributes the ball. They don't need him to be a scorer.

$8M guaranteed for Jordan, and DC still owes him $4M

he doesnt get all of that from dc...pretty sure he only gets the difference unless the philly money is equal to or more then he gets nothing

Eddie Jordan PC is on right now. Talked about each team having a different winning formula. Getting Jason Smith back. Took some question from Eskin and ran with it. Eskin's being an ignorant icehole...otherwise known as his normal self.

You can tell how much :CF is bubbling with excitement over the Eddie Jordan pick.

regarding the princeton offense:

"its harder to coach than it is to learn. For the players it's all about reacting. "If you're a basketball player, with a basketball IQ, it's easy to learn."

take care sam

godfather will go nowhere and you will like it

enough with this godfather crap you have for the drunkest player in the league. its a horrendous nickname

its right up there with your boy Cole's BSS (Big Stud Speights). Lock it up.

i didnt make mine up.....thats the difference

but its still an incredible nickname...lol @ you comapring the godfather to big stud speights which is a rainbow of rainbow like gayness

difference is as kindergarten as that BSS corny-ass nickname is, it at least has some legitimacy to it

godfather makes absolutely no sense...so I can see why you use it

jealousy will get you nowhere

from brendan haywood's blog...

"I wouldn't mind playing for eddie again," he wrote. "we got off to a ruff start but in the end we had a pretty good relationship. philly wouldn't be a bad spot for me, and my contract is up in 2010 anyways so you never know what might happen."

dude is soft batch but i'd still take him over sammy any day. 

youre crazy...godfather is easily better than that bum and way more insane

no doubt matty...they post about the same numbers but Haywood has way better hands and actually knows how to play his position

Quote from: ice grillin you on June 03, 2009, 11:23:03 AM
youre crazy...godfather is easily better than that bum and way more insane

he may be more insane but he is most definitely not better.  and i don't even think haywood is that good. 

haywood absolutely blows at both ends of the court...at least sammy is one of the best rim defenders in the nba and is overall very useful on the defensive end...haywood really is completely useless

yep the best in the nba--he deserves an extension

this is expected from you... but it should be since you probably havent picked up a ball since you were playing around the world with your pops in your backyard on grass shooting at a 8ft high garbage can with a hole in the bottom nailed to your shed.

you win.

Quote from: reese125 on June 03, 2009, 11:45:19 AM
but it should be since you probably havent picked up a ball since you were playing around the world with your pops in your backyard on grass shooting at a 8ft high garbage can with a hole in the bottom nailed to your shed.

not only is this painfully unfunny but even the point youre trying to make is an incredible failure

it really is scary how closely your posts resemble coles...and its even more errie now that i actually dont think youre the same person

no... failure are your dalembert posts and the point is very clear

and dont kid yourself...your bball posts are tinkering on that of fansince61

Eddie Jordan on Mike Miss today---guy is hysterical how he goes right at it, straight up right to the point on their shooters, Dalembert and Andre Miller

http://950espn.com/Audio/tabid/183/articleType/ArticleView/articleId/3838/EddieJordanNewSixersCoach.aspx (http://950espn.com/Audio/tabid/183/articleType/ArticleView/articleId/3838/EddieJordanNewSixersCoach.aspx)

i haven't really had an opinion on jordan that much.  living in dc i've obviously seen a lot of him, but he was mostly liked by the fans, which automatically made me assume that he sucked.  i know he's known for taking horrible timeouts and bad clock management, but with no shooters on this team there is no need for set plays anyway.  he's growing on me. 

one of the big criticizms of him in dc was that he couldnt coach defense...this may be true but people dont realize how bad the bullet palyers are on the defensive end of the court...especially arenas and jamison

i remember reading a story by a bullet beat writer where he asked a couple other gm's about jordan and they said theres no way the 07-08 wiz should have won 43 games and gave jordan a lot of the credit for that

my one big criticsm of him is that the bullets were awful in end of game situations despite having two really good finishers

some nice detailed Q & A from Eddie Jordan on a conference call today about his coaching tactics. Long,but worth it if youre down

Brian Depressed Fan - When it comes right down to it, who gets the playing time: a weak defender who fits the offensive system or a strong defender who does not? What is the priority?

Eddie Jordan - There has to be a balance. If you have skill to score the basketball, you're going to play. I mean, you can't win 0-0. If you have a weaker defender, you play team defense to cover for him. At the same time, if you have four strong offensive players, then you can carry one defender, sometimes two. I think championship teams start with a solid, veteran front line.

Ricky Sixers 4 Guidos - Do you see Lou Williams in the combo guard role he's played in the past, or could he slide in as a starting point?

Eddie Jordan - In this offense, you really play two combo guards at all times. In training camp, we'll see how Lou handles it. But yes, I see Lou as a combo guard.

Derek RealGM - Can Iguodala play the two?

Eddie Jordan - Yes. I think he can flow from the two to the three. I like to think he's a three-man first. It depends on the roster, if Smith or Speights can earn time, then he's at the two. I played Jared Jeffries at the two on a team that went to the second round of the playoffs. I will use him at the two if one of those big men can earn the time.

Dannie ReclinerGM - How will Samuel Dalembert fit into the offense next year?

Eddie Jordan - Just like everyone else Samuel has to buy into being an unselfish player that cares about his teammates. That has been a knock on him, he has to get past the selfish up and down mentality of playing in the NBA. I'd like to see him care about his teammates, the offense can run through him or around him, and he can still be a valuable part of the offense. He has to have an approach that he can be highly competitive and being unselfish teammate and that's what we're looking for first.

Ricky Sixers 4 Guidos - The Sixers couldn't sell out an arena last year, even during the playoffs. Is this because the Sixers just have to win more basketball games or play a fun style of basketball or both?

Eddie Jordan - I don't know. I really don't. I haven't been here long enough to understand why they haven't filled the arena for playoff games. I think if you have an exciting team and they win than people will come out to see them. That's been proven throughout the NBA in the history of the NBA. If you win and you're exciting, and if you have a chance to play for either the Conference championship or NBA championship, than they will come and fill the arena. So outside of that I don't have a problem.

Brian Depressed Fan - During your time in Washington it seemed as if once you had your full arsenal of players with Gilbert Arenas, Caron Butler, and Antawn Jamison you were one of the fastest teams in the NBA and had close to the most possessions per game. Than when you were hit by injuries in 2007-08 that pace slowed considerably and that was how you competed with a depleted roster. What do you foresee for the Sixers this year, do you see them as a top 10 team in possessions per game?

Eddie Jordan - I think we're going to be a high possession team. Two reasons: number one we have terrific athletes. I think Andre Iguodala can run, I think Thaddeus Young is a runner, Samuel at the center position can be a runner if he puts his mind to it, Willie Green can get up the floor, Jason Smith was very athletic before he got hurt and that's number one. Number two, this team has shown they can generate points on the defensive end. They can create turnovers and they get out and run. We should continue to defend well, rebound well, turn people over, get out and get earlier baskets and if not than get into the offense. I think part of this team matches Washington. Gilbert Arenas was a really quick shooter off the break and in the offense, Antawn Jamison at the forward position was a catch and shoot guy in the early offense, so I don't see those type of players here and when we were hit by injuries especially Gilbert we had to slow it down because our backup guards weren't fast enough (DeShawn Stevenson and Antonio Daniels) so we slowed the game up a little bit. I really envision our 76ers being a high possession team.

Chris Heard in the Cheapseats - One of the primary weaknesses of this team last year was defending the perimeter and I'm curious what is your philosophy is on the defensive end of the floor particularly around defending the three point shot?

Eddie Jordan - Well you emphasize containing the defense, you emphasize containing the dribble. One of the first things you work on, and work on very often throughout the season is one-on-one containment. If you can defend the first dribble, then you've done 80 percent of your job on the perimeter. If you get deep on the first dribble than it's hard for help to come. If you can stay in front of your man on the first dribble than that's how you can stop the draw and kicks and you don't have to help so much. When you help you leave somebody to help and there's a shooter left open or the next guy passes to the next guy. So that's number one, you have to defend the first dribble and defend the dribble on the perimeter. How do you do that? First of all you'd like to have guys who are defenders first, you have to have athletes. You have to be able to move your feet, stay in front of the dribble, change direction, and sometimes get up on somebody to make it hard for them to even put the ball on the floor. That's how you can number one stop the three, two if there is help you have to keep coming in the rotation and that's a term we use throughout the season. Don't stop your defensive rotation, if they draw and kick and one guy flies at him another guy must come and another guy must come so keep coming and you have to run people off the three. You have to rebound the ball and not give a guy a second chance because you see a lot of games where there's an offensive rebound and a kick out for a three. Those are daggers as we like to call them. So again stay in front of the dribble, keep coming in your rotation if there's a breakdown, and you have to rebound the ball so there won't be a kick out for a three.

Ricky Sixers 4 Guidos - In terms of veterans inside the locker room, Andre Miller might not be back as well as Theo Ratliff and Donyell Marshall. Do you think the team will need a couple of veterans to keep the locker room united and also to play on the floor or are you find with 25 year olds running the show?

Eddie Jordan - I think that's a good question, that's a good point. You always like to have solid veterans in the locker room to keep everything professional, to keep a work ethic, to keep a focus, to keep a serious mindset of going to practice everyday, and that's very important. Antawn Jamison and Caron Butler were great leaders in our locker room in Washington. You like to have responsible veterans to be there and keep our young guys focused. It is a relatively young team, but I do think our young guys are very serious and they have great work ethic. I'm talking about Thaddeus Young and even Andre Iguodala is still very young and has great work ethic and a serious mindset. That is a big part in the NBA.

Dannie ReclinerGM - How would you address the roster the way it is in terms of strengths and weaknesses?

Eddie Jordan - I haven't had much time to talk about personnel with our front office. I just got the job on Friday and we're looking at the draft and working guys out tomorrow. We've already addressed some issues with the team: three point shooting, point guard if Andre doesn't come back, and probably another big man that can defend in the paint. Right now I think the playoff experience that this young core group has had is very important they've got to the first round two years in a row. Number two this team competes. They're undersized but they compete. I think that's partly due to one of the best players being defensive minded: Andre Iguodala. If one of your best players defends than everyone else follows. It's a young team it's a team that's got some talent and some young players that haven't played a whole lot like Jason Smith. Plus Elton was out all year and he's been a continuous all-star. So I like the fact that they compete and they've got two guys coming back from injury that didn't compete last year.

Brian Depressed Fan - Will there be a full-time shooting coach on staff?

Eddie Jordan - Yes it is something we're looking into. We hope there will be.

Brian Depressed Fan - Coaching against the Sixers you were 7-11 against them and I was wondering as an opposing coach what is the look on the Sixers. What are you trying to shut-down what are you trying to exploit? As the Sixers coach what are you going to do to try to improve those areas?

Eddie Jordan - Number one when you're going against the Sixers you want to prepare to not turn the ball over. They're a very fast team and if you turn the ball over against the Sixers than they can get out on the fast break on you and score on the open floor. So number one, limit your turnovers. Number two you can't allow them to get offensive rebounds. Samuel Dalembert and Andre Iguodala can both hit the glass and they both pose problems on the offensive glass. I also think that the bench with Lou Williams coming off and Willie Green was coming off the bench at one time, I think the bench had a lot of risk takers but they turned you over. You'd have to keep the energy off their bench. Now as far as us as a team when I'm coaching them I think you have to be a lot more organized and a lot more often in the offense. I think that's a big key for us this year

Philadunkia - The shooting guard position has kind of been a pressing issue during the off-season so far. I saw that you have Toney Douglas of Florida State, Stefon Jackson from UTEP, Jodie Meeks from Kentucky, and Terrance Williams from Louisville coming in tomorrow to workout who are all shooting guards. Is this definitely a need position that you're looking into in the off-season?

Eddie Jordan - Yes it is a very big issue that we're addressing that we need better three point shooting whether it's from our forward or from our guard spots. Both positions have to improve and the coach and the coaching staff has looked at improving through development. Now that's not always going to be the end all, we need to acquire better shooters. Our job is to continue to work with our players and see if Willie Green can be a better three point shooter, if Andre Iguodala can be a better three point shooter, if Lou Williams can be a better three point shooter. I had DeShawn Stevenson the last two years and he improved to be a 40 percent shooter last year from the three point line. So its how much work can our current players put in and how much work our players are willing to put in with our coaches to improve and get better. Than its up to our front office to see if we can make transactions where we can acquire, without losing our core guys, some shooters.

Anthony Heard in the Cheapseats - The coaches last season tried to fit Elton Brand into a certain system and than obviously got hurt. So how do you see Elton Brand fitting into what you want to do, especially offensively? Also do you believe as a coach it's better to fit a player into your system or kind of tweak the system to better utilize the skill-sets that certain players have?

Eddie Jordan - Number one Elton will be moved around in the offense, he'll be facing the basket from the logo area, he'll be facing the basket from the elbow, he'll be posting up on the box. He'll even look at the basket from the top of the key or between the top of the key the free throw area, he'll play a lot of two man games off the elbow like Kobe and Lamar Odom would do or Kobe and Gasol would do, hopefully he can get out and run, than we'll do some pick and rolls with forwards and guards and Elton likes to pick and than pop so all those options are available for Elton in this offense. Number two, I think that Elton is a guy who has to defend the post, but again a lot of these things will work out in training camp. Good coaches develop players and fit a system with their players. Whether it's the triangle, whether it's the UCLA offense that Jerry Sloan has been using for 20 some odd years, we fit the offense to our best players and that's what good coaches do. Gilbert Arenas, Antawn Jamison, and Caron Butler were the highest scoring trio in the NBA in the system and before that Gilbert Arenas, Larry Hughes, and Antawn Jamison were the highest scoring trio in the NBA and that's because we tilted the system to fit our best players.

Ricky Sixers 4 Guidos - Is there any chance that Thaddeus Young could evolve into an Antawn Jamison type power forward?

Eddie Jordan - I think he could because Antawn was an interior player to start and even when I talked to coach Dean Smith he said that he saw Antawn had been taking a lot of threes and he never thought that he would evolve into that type of player but its effective and I said yes coach he's worked on it and he's been an unorthodox player since he's started with scoring in the paint and he moved out to the three. I think Thaddeus being left handed could pose some problems of first being an interior player and we're going to see if he can move out and improve his mid-range jump shot and see if he can make a high percentage of his three point shots.

or you could have listened to him and stefanski on wip for two hours today

btw just delete that post not a person is going to read it

I read it.  :-[

I noticed him take a few shots at Sammy...

good man phreak....it was some very good stuff

igy was just upset because he gets the shakes and his forehead breaks out in beads of sweat when there is something longer than 2 sentences to read

didn't read it but i did notice that apparently it was the same 2 or 3 dudes asking questions over and over again. 

what kind of "conference call" was this?  were there open phone lines for fans to call in?  and if so, i guess those are the only people really interested in eddie jordan being the new coach. 

i read it too and i'm really liking the fact that in the 3-4 interviews i've heard or read up on the past few days, he's taken a subtle shot at sammy somehow.  i like it, maybe dude will grow some balls. 

Eddie must talk until the players say farg it I'll do it his way so he'll shut the farg up. Holy shtein I've never seen a coach so forthcoming

Quote from: reese125 on June 04, 2009, 05:17:13 PM
good man phreak....it was some very good stuff

igy was just upset because he gets the shakes and his forehead breaks out in beads of sweat when there is something longer than 2 sentences to read

no because no one should care about some awful internet chat room where fans as dumb as you are asking stupid questions that will garner meaningless vanilla answers..especially when you could listen to a basketball guy like gargano grill them live on the radio

I hate the NBA and I read that. Just to spite IGY.

Quote from: ice grillin you on June 04, 2009, 08:38:11 PM

Quote from: reese125 on June 04, 2009, 05:17:13 PM
good man phreak....it was some very good stuff

igy was just upset because he gets the shakes and his forehead breaks out in beads of sweat when there is something longer than 2 sentences to read

no because no one should care about some awful internet chat room where fans as dumb as you are asking stupid questions that will garner meaningless vanilla answers..especially when you could listen to a basketball guy like gargano grill them live on the radio

yep horrible answers

choke on a donut tomorrow

ok reecedepressedfan437823

Reggie Evans traded to Toronto for Jason Kapono.  yay 3pt shooting

holy shtein--big ups stefanski

awesome trade evans was one of the worst if not the worst player in the nba

you could of stopped at awesome trade, but then you continue with dumbass comments that reconfirm my hate for you

i bet you specifically like the shaft of the penis

ha!

Great move by Ed. One for getting any sort of value whatsoever for Evans, two for getting a shooter. There were rumors circulating that they were interested in using the mle to sign Korver, this gives you a better player and keeps that open.

wow sixer expectations are low when this trade gets a "holy shtein" an "awesome" and a "great move"

because once again youre uneducated of what just happened

in six years dude has become statistically the most accurate 3-point shooter in league history, so I can see why the trade sucks so bad to you

lol okay president of the kareem rush fan club...youre doing the same thing now that you did with him when i told you to pump your brakes...saying rush would be better than korver and how great of a 3 pt shooter he is

maybe this is the time you finally hit one...every dog has his day eventually

maybe

maybe youll die

maybe

No I'm pretty sure he'll eventually die.

Quote from: ice grillin you on June 09, 2009, 09:03:16 PM
wow sixer expectations are low when this trade gets a "holy shtein" an "awesome" and a "great move"

Or maybe not every trade can be a blockbuster and it's just nice to get missing pieces for a guy who's clearly expendable.

thats fine...trade is fine...i dont have anything bad to say about it...i just wouldnt have my mouth agape saying "holy shtein" because i got a guy whose been on five teams in six years...which is the definition of expendable

thats because once again you expect confetti and parades off of everything. this is not a team thats expected to win a title this year or next...at least not from my perspective. they need a big FA signing to accomplish that. the fact that ed stef addressed a need with the best 3 pt shooter in the league allows for a "holy shtein' type reaction because he hasnt done squat worth applause..yet

youre a complete moron if you think hes the best 3pt shooter in the league.....he averages one 3 pter a game...you read somewhere that he has the highest % in league history and without knowing shtein about the game decided hes the best 3 pt shooter in the league

is he better than your hero kareem rush sure...is he even in the top 25 3 pt shooters in the league no farging way...maybe in the 3 point contest he is

thats a typo by the way--it should be one of the best 3 pt shooters in the league and he most certainly is

ha-thats right--the ol' you dont shtein about the game phrase from igy. youre such a farging meatloaf

you crack me up too...you will do anything, even if you agree with me to not agree with me because youre so bored and need someone to spar with. you know what that means?

guy played over 20 minutes last year and averaged just over one 3-pointer per game...wow

hell, Ill be shocked if he gets that many minutes next season. all i care about is him coming off the bench and hitting 3's

the biggest mistake was he was used improperly in Torontos system, not to mention he was taking way too may 2 pters off the dribble which is not his game nor should it be. If Jordan can keep him on track the way he was used in Miami, he should be a very nice weapon

Getting a shooter for Evans was a good deal. I liked Evans because he could hit the boards, but he did not contribute much this past year like he did the previous year.

Its a decent trade and if Kapono works out, great. If not, no big deal. Take a flier on the guy and see what happens.

Is it great? Nope.

exactly what j said

kakorver should give them 15 mpg off the bench & will be able to strech the floor a bit.  it will be nice to see iggy & lou drive & dish to a guy who can actually knock down a 3.
good move.

Just as a pure shooter is concerned, he's the best in the NBA. If you want to factor in the ability to create their own shot or ability to get a shot off with a defender in your face, then forget it. He has no ball-handling skills whatsoever, only attempts 3's when he's wide open or close to it, and is slow and sluggish. The Sixers better have some good ball movement or set some screens, or at least get out in transition or they won't be able to maximize his skills.

best pure shooter in the NBA?  lol

Quote from: King Cole on June 11, 2009, 01:31:40 AM
Just as a pure shooter is concerned, he's the best in the NBA. If you want to factor in the ability to create their own shot or ability to get a shot off with a defender in your face, then forget it. He has no ball-handling skills whatsoever, only attempts 3's when he's wide open or close to it, and is slow and sluggish. The Sixers better have some good ball movement or set some screens, or at least get out in transition or they won't be able to maximize his skills.

hes been on five different teams and has averaged one 3 pter a game in his career...what are these skills that the sixers are going to try to maximize that the rest of the league cant seem to even find

Quote from: SunMo on June 11, 2009, 08:28:12 AM
best pure shooter in the NBA?  lol

seriously this is all a joke right

wow.   

ray allen, rashard lewis, michael redd all 10x better than kapono. 

christ, i haven't even seen the guy in a sixers uni yet and i already hate him now. 

not quite sure what any of those players have to do with kapono

thats funny i was actually going to bring up redd earlier as a guy who is a way better shooter


but he didnt win a three point shooting contest and hes apparantly not "pure"...btw "pure shooter" is one of the most ridiculous sports terms ever...its right there with closing speed

Quote from: reese125 on June 11, 2009, 12:54:37 PM
not quite sure what any of those players have to do with kapono

the fact that Cole called him the best pure shooter in the NBA probably has something to do with it

kapono is white, slow, can't play d or handle, and he can shoot a little bit, so he must be a pure shooter

plus they got him straight up for a guy with no hand eye coordination

Quote from: SunMo on June 11, 2009, 01:06:21 PM
kapono is white, slow, can't play d or handle, and he can shoot a little bit, so he must be a pure shooter

pure shooter means he sucks at everything else so badly that his shooting must be the best in the league

(http://www.joesportsfan.com/jsfpics/columns2/shooter.jpg)

Quote from: MDS on June 11, 2009, 01:10:16 PM
plus they got him straight up for a guy with no hand eye coordination

yep none

sucked at rebounding which requires no hand eye coordination--jesus christ

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Quote from: ice grillin you on June 11, 2009, 01:00:37 PM
"pure shooter" is one of the most ridiculous sports terms ever...its right there with closing speed

factor back takes offense to this. 

Quote from: Sgt PSN on June 11, 2009, 12:48:52 PM
wow.  

ray allen, rashard lewis, michael redd all 10x better than kapono.  

christ, i haven't even seen the guy in a sixers uni yet and i already hate him now.  

No way. Ray Allen in his prime maybe, but Kapono's jumper is absolutely ridiculous. If you give Kapono, Lewis, Redd, and Allen 500 3 pointers all from the same spot in out of game shootaround, Kapono without question makes the most out of the 4.

The problem with Kapono is that he does nothing else besides stand there and shoot. As an all around player he sucks. I understand that is what truly matters, but I was just talking about pure shooter just from a shooting standpoint, which is why I mentioned that overall that is really all he does. But if you compare him to those 3 guys as far as players go, then he is obviously way worse than all of them. Even with Redd's torn up knee.

unless you've seen Ray Allen change the form in his jump shot not quite sure what you mean "in his prime".

Kaponos form and release is no doubt effortless and very quick, probably why he is deemed a "pure shooter". Thats all the term means. matter of fact you could probably label 20+ guys to that term whos shot looks all too pretty

Ray Allen was really inconsistent in the playoffs. It isn't about just your form, the most important part of shooting a jumper is in your legs. Without lift, your shot suffers, and he clearly doesn't have the same legs he had in his prime. Also who knows how his joints are.

Pure shooter means more than that to me. I think people can work on their jumpers and improve them, but truly great shooters(all-timers) are born with it. Kerr, Price, etc all have it in their genes. Kapono is just a natural shooter. Has a natural stroke that is just money.

youre kidding me right?

are you seriously going to compare this years playoff series against Orlando to the fact that Ray Allen is not one of the best shooters in the game? Awesome.

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Quote from: reese125 on June 11, 2009, 07:02:57 PM
youre kidding me right?

are you seriously going to compare this years playoff series against Orlando to the fact that Ray Allen is not one of the best shooters in the game? Awesome.

When did I say he is not one of the best shooters in the game? Do you have reading comprehension issues? Ray Allen may be soft, and a total bitch. Frankly, I can't stand him as a player and have zero respect for him. I think he is has no guts whatsoever. He plays scared.

Still, he's one of the best shooters in the game. Just not as good as Kapono right now. Which is all I said, and I clearly stated it that way multiple times clearly. Also he's a better all around player than Kapono, as I've said before.

nothing better than watching reese and cole try to outdumb each other...its like a brutal 15 round fight where you think both are going down about 10 different times but they always come back

altho cole is really coming on strong in the last page and a half of this thread with some of the dumbest statements made in this boards glorious history

Nothing like someone calling a statement dumb without any argument against it.

At least say what you disagree with.

Quote from: King Cole on June 11, 2009, 08:32:47 PM
At least say what you disagree with.

your existence

Quote from: ice grillin you on June 11, 2009, 08:29:25 PM
nothing better than watching reese and cole try to outdumb each other...its like a brutal 15 round fight where you think both are going down about 10 different times but they always come back

altho cole is really coming on strong in the last page and a half of this thread with some of the dumbest statements made in this boards glorious history

im really scrtaching my head and balls here trying to figure out for the life of me why you think youre smarter than me

Ive come up with a couple answers so just underline in a reply back which one fits you the best a) youre delusional
b) I call you out and challenge your flip flopping thoughts more than anyone here c) youre ego is so big that it hurts your feelings when someone doesnt conform to your ways

Ill be here for the next hour

no one cares dook...go back to headbutting with cole...that shtein is priceless

exactly--thanks for conceding to all of the above

have a good night...and roll over and tap MDS on the shoulder and tell him good night too

saw sweet lou at acme. we exchanged whats up's. he was with his girl. she wasnt...great.

^^not in the position to critique people's girlfriends.^^

im a delivery driver for a restaurant, not a strong black man who plays basketball and just signed a 25 mil deal

QuoteIvey Declines Option
Royal Ivey, who appeared in 71 games as a backup guard for the 76ers, has declined his player option for the 2009-10 season.

Keith Glass, Ivey's agent, informed Sixers president/general manager Ed Stefanski of Ivey's decision in a letter late last week.

Ivey, who was listed as earning $854,957 this season, was scheduled to earn the veteran's minimum of $959,111 in '09-10. He originally had until July 2 to make his decision, but agreed to move the date to today.

Ivey, known primarily for his defense and an ability to fill in at both backcourt positions, averaged 3.0 points in 12.1 minutes.

Iguodala and Young were invited to Vegas for USA Basketball tryouts for next summer's world championships

18 years, 18 years. She got one of your kids, got you for 18 years (http://www.philly.com/philly/news/breaking/20090618_Sixers_Iguodala_is_sued_for_child_support.html)

QuoteWarthen says she has a bachelor's degree in criminal justice and has put her plans for law school on hold. She has modeled and appeared in music videos, according to photos available on her MySpace page.

shoddy.  journalism. 

bj mullins

(http://www.amitbhawani.com/blog/Images/S/Suicide-Gun-Point-Man.jpg)

Todd do you have a girlfriend now?

WIP just said that this afternoon, the Sixers have a major announcement about "their brand"

Yeah they're gonna trade him to Dallas for Stackhouse

nah, it's just the 2:00 presser about the return to the old logo

http://www.nba.com/sixers/news/092206_Branding_Announcement.html

back to the old logo permanently?  awesome. 

Thank god.  I've seen some scary looking shtein since the 70's.

they have only had two bad jerseys since the 70's...problem is they have had one of them for the last 13 years and the other one was arguably the worst nba jersey of all time

the rest of their jerseys during that time ranged from mostly incredible to really cool

im sure the new jerseys will cure igoudala's magic sperm

Quote from: ice grillin you on June 23, 2009, 03:50:49 PM
they have only had two bad jerseys since the 70's...problem is they have had one of them for the last 13 years and the other one was arguably the worst nba jersey of all time

the rest of their jerseys during that time ranged from mostly incredible to really cool

I assume the worst is the one they changed to in the early 90's? Because to me that isn't even arguable, it is horrendous.  I just hope there isn't anymore black in the uniform, the fact they even had that in there uniform was ridiculous. 

black and gold are completely gone, and supposedly the blue is slightly lighter than it was in the 80s/early 90s (like you see on Sixers.com now)

Jerseys are important in sports.

Quote from: Drunkmasterflex on June 23, 2009, 03:58:27 PM

Quote from: ice grillin you on June 23, 2009, 03:50:49 PM
they have only had two bad jerseys since the 70's...problem is they have had one of them for the last 13 years and the other one was arguably the worst nba jersey of all time

the rest of their jerseys during that time ranged from mostly incredible to really cool

I assume the worst is the one they changed to in the early 90's? Because to me that isn't even arguable, it is horrendous.  I just hope there isn't anymore black in the uniform, the fact they even had that in there uniform was ridiculous. 

yeah armen gilliam jerseys = the titantic

(http://i23.ebayimg.com/04/i/001/32/e1/f4ee_1.JPG)

That whole period sucked.  Barkley wearing 32....then being traded for garbage....then Spoon....then Bradley....

Awful.

how were they allowed to wear those?

Slaves?

regarding those hideous jerseys Barkley said "it looks like someone gave my 5 year old a blank jersey and a box of crayons".

My prediction for the Sixers pick: Lawson

while this is indeed a good thing, unfortunately it is also the best thing that will happen to the sixers for the next 12 months. 

igy probably remembers most of these but the 90s had a lot of bad uniforms if you watched anything other than Jordan and Olajuwon.  Besides the Sixers pajamas you had:

-- Nets bleach accident of 1991
-- Nuggets with the rainbow fronts
-- Suns with the giant shooting logo on the front
-- Cavaliers light blue splatter all over
-- Hawks in black with the giant logo and wraparound wings
-- Pistons in teal and black with a horse head
-- Rockets in navy with the giant logo, angry spaceship and pinstripes
-- Jazz with giant mountains all over
-- Kings half-and-half jersey that was purple on the left and black on the right
-- Everything about the Raptors and Grizzlies

(http://media.charlotteobserver.com/smedia/2008/11/07/00/49-485-hornets1107.ART_GRS6CM20.1+tripucka_SP__.JPG.embedded.prod_affiliate.138.jpg)

Worst uniforms ever.

Quote from: BigEd76 on June 23, 2009, 04:37:46 PM
igy probably remembers most of these but the 90s had a lot of bad uniforms if you watched anything other than Jordan and Olajuwon.  Besides the Sixers pajamas you had:

-- Nets bleach accident of 1991
-- Nuggets with the rainbow fronts
-- Suns with the giant shooting logo on the front
-- Cavaliers light blue splatter all over
-- Hawks in black with the giant logo and wraparound wings
-- Pistons in teal and black with a horse head
-- Rockets in navy with the giant logo, angry spaceship and pinstripes
-- Jazz with giant mountains all over
-- Kings half-and-half jersey that was purple on the left and black on the right
-- Everything about the Raptors and Grizzlies

http://www.11points.com/Sports/11_Ugliest_NBA_Uniforms_of_the_1990s

mid 90's nba = life

Quote from: Rome on June 23, 2009, 04:42:12 PM
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Worst uniforms ever.

look at his face.  looks like he's trying to pass a terd.

if he had pulled his shorts up just a little bit higher he could have covered up his awful chest hair

That look helped him launch a second career in commercials:

(http://adweek.blogs.com/photos/uncategorized/caveman_1.jpg)

The Sixers logo they went back to is my favorite logo of all-time. Just a great logo. The style, the colors, etc.

Let's hope they don't mess up the jerseys.

It's about freaking time.

(http://www.nba.com/media/sixers/old_sixers_logo_ball.jpg)

I liked the 11 worst list, nothing says Jazz like snow capped mountains. 

Quote from: Sgt PSN on June 23, 2009, 04:33:28 PM
while this is indeed a good thing, unfortunately it is also the best thing that will happen to the sixers for the next 12 months. 

ha--too true

supposedly there's rumors of Michael Redd to the Sixers

-- Dalembert + LouWill?
-- Dalembert + Green + future 1st-rd pick?

Quote from: BigEd76 on June 24, 2009, 11:22:47 AM
-- Dalembert + Green + future 1st-rd pick?

do it!!

redd can actually choose to become a free agent after this season if he declines his player option

trade for redd
redd opts out
sign lebrizzy next summer

BOOM!

Hasn't Redd had a few seasons with significant injuries?

blew out his ACL and MCL this past season

i would trade those two wastes of space for red foxxs corpse

Quote from: Drunkmasterflex on June 24, 2009, 11:44:51 AM
Hasn't Redd had a few seasons with significant injuries?

yeah...and hes 30

but its really a no lose...its not like anyone theyd trade for him is going to help them...plus he only has two years left on his deal (altho so do godfather and willie)...godfather and lous deal with its four years left would be the ideal scenario

http://www.draftexpress.com/nba-mock-draft/2009/ (http://www.draftexpress.com/nba-mock-draft/2009/)

this site has jennings still available at 17.  don't see that happening but yes please.

Quote from: BigEd76 on June 24, 2009, 11:22:47 AM
supposedly there's rumors of Michael Redd to the Sixers

-- Dalembert + LouWill?
-- Dalembert + Green + future 1st-rd pick?

rumor is that the sixers made the offer.  i haven't ready anything saying the bucks were interested.


holiday/lawson/maynor, in that order at 17....slight chance they take ellington instead of maynor as their plan "c".

holiday does nothing for me but i cant see him at 17 anyway even thos hes supposedly dropping like a fedoruk...i think if he fell that far someone would trade up and snag him

id friggin love jennings but like matty said no way hes there....other than griffin id take jennings over any player in the draft

teague would be my choice at 17

i'd def take jennings...they need to draft a guy with high potential.

thats why i want teague

all the players at 17 are gonna be bleh...so you definitely go for the the high celing guy in that case...i think teague could flop but unlike a lawson holiday or maynor he also could be a stud

I don't see Jennings falling there either.  I do like Lawson, though I agree with IGY his ceiling is not nearly as high as some of the other players.  I would not be at all disappointed if they took him. 

i wouldnt either...short of like bj mullins how could you really get upset with whatever they do picking at 17 in a weak ass draft

Sixers relaunch brand with official change to primary logo

Philadelphia, Pa. – June 23, 2009 – The Philadelphia 76ers have officially changed their primary logo and color scheme with a return to the traditional "76ers basketball" logo and the red, white and blue color scheme. The basketball logo was last used during the 1996-97 season and consists of a color scheme that was originally established in 1963 and used during the Sixers' two championship seasons in 1966-67 and 1982-83.

"By bringing back the old Sixers logo, we are connecting the past with the future," said Comcast-Spectacor Chairman Ed Snider. "This logo evokes memories of some of this franchise's proudest moments. We also made this change because we understood how much this logo means to our fans, this franchise and to our city. The fans had a big input on this decision. We're excited and we want the entire City of Philadelphia to be excited for Sixers basketball."

"The 76ers logo is one of the more iconic in all of professional sports and we are sure fans will appreciate the Sixers returning to their core colors and ball icon," said Christopher Arena, NBA Vice President Apparel, Sporting Goods & Basketball Partnerships.

This is the first major logo change for the Sixers since the 1997-98 season, when the logo was modernized to incorporate black, silver and gold into a stylized "76ers" wordmark that featured a predominant red and silver star to the left and a gold ball with blue stripes below. From 1963 through 1997, the Sixers' identity revolved around a "76" in red and royal blue and a star configuration above the number seven, which was an identity that defined the team through two NBA Championships. The 76 and stars were utilized within a bell symbol from 1963-77 and then the "ers" was added to the "76" and contained in a ball. The ball form of the logo is what is most recognized and most associated with the "Fo', Fi', Fo'" championship team of 82-83, one of the greatest teams in NBA history. The only enhancement with the new logo will be a rectangular "court" shaped enclosure around the ball logo with the city name "PHILADELPHIA" grounded along the bottom and silver accent shaping the entire perimeter.

The Sixers will introduce a new secondary logo and wordmark at a later date. Additionally, the team will unveil a new court design and uniforms later this summer.


Pennsylvania Governor Ed Rendell
"The Sixers are one of the most storied franchises in the NBA, and the new logo represents the very best of the Sixers tradition. It's great to see it making a comeback."

Philadelphia Mayor Michael Nutter
"Seeing the return of the 76ers old logo with the red, white, and blue colors brings me back to the time of growing up watching Wilt Chamberlain, Hal Greer, Dr. J, and those great teams. I am excited now, as I was then, for Sixers basketball."

Julius Erving, Philadelphia 76ers, 1976 – 1987
"I always felt the Sixers were the patriotic team. Boston always had the parquet floor. You'd go to L.A. and everything was gold, white, with a touch of blue. Our thing was red, white and blue. This floor reaps of that when you look at our logos. We're true red-blooded American by design."
- as told to NBA Entertainment

Bobby Jones, Philadelphia 76ers, 1978 – 1986
"I am happy the Sixers are going back to the 'old' logo. I like it because it is clear and clean and a simple representation of the historical value of the City of Philadelphia to this nation. It also represents some very good teams that have played under that logo."

Earl Cureton, Philadelphia 76ers, 1980 – 1983
"There are many things you can change with a changing of the times, but every now and then you have a perfect fit and the original 76ers logo is one of them. People will always relate to the original logo when thinking of the great legendary players like Dr. J, Bobby Jones, Wilt Chamberlain, Hal Greer, Darryl Dawkins, Andrew Toney, Maurice Cheeks, and all others who have contributed to the success of this great establishment."

Franklin Edwards, Philadelphia 76ers, 1981 – 1984

"The first thing that comes to mind about the logo is draft day 1981. Words will never do justice to what that logo meant. From that day on, it has been imprinted in my mind. The logo represents the beginning of my professional dreams and career. It represents the organization that had more faith in me and my abilities than I may have had in myself at the time. Most of all, it represents a total commitment towards excellence at the highest level. When I got to Philadelphia, that logo represented going for it all every year."

Pat Williams, Philadelphia 76ers GM, 1974 – 1986
"The traditional 76ers logo is back and I am so pleased. That look brings back memories of the 76ers historic past. It's a beautiful logo filled with meaning to millions."

another article....

Quote
76ers returning to old logo, uniforms

By Kate Fagan

Inquirer Staff Writer

The 76ers are bringing retro back.

Yesterday in the lobby of the Comcast Center, the Sixers relaunched the red, white, and blue logo they first used in 1963, putting away the modern black, silver, and gold logo they have been using since the 1997-98 season.

The "relaunching" was a short presentation that included Comcast-Spectacor chairman Ed Snider, Sixers president and general manager Ed Stefanski, new head coach Eddie Jordan, current Sixer Jason Smith, former player World B. Free, and executive adviser Sonny Hill.

"By bringing back the old Sixers logo, we are connecting the past with the future," Snider said. "This logo evokes some of this franchise's proudest moments. We also made this change because we understood how much this logo means to our fans, the franchise, and to our city."

Stefanski said the organization reached out to fans and received an "overwhelming" response to return to the old logo and uniforms.

Yesterday's effort started a rebranding campaign that will include the introduction of a secondary logo and wordmark later this year. The Sixers also said later this summer they will unveil a redesign of both their court and uniforms.

The relaunched color scheme and logo are the ones used in the Sixers' championships seasons of 1966-67 and 1982-83.

"The logo is symbolic of the championship personality," Jordan said.

"I would never have gone away from it," said Stefanski, a Philly native.

"I always preach to the guys, telling them about the past," added Stefanski.

Last season, the Sixers wore their retro uniforms for a number of games as part of the NBA's "Hardwood Classics" program. The exposure of the old logo seemed to encourage fans to push for a permanent return.

Yesterday's presentation was open to the public.

All of those in attendance received a T-shirt featuring the relaunched logo. Afterward, the Sixers launched a "T-Shirt Tour," sending a double-decker bus, tossing T-shirts courtesy of Adidas, through the city and into the suburbs.

"The 76ers' logo is one of the more iconic in all of professional sports and we are sure fans will appreciate the Sixers returning to their core colors and ball icon," Christopher Arena, an NBA vice president, said in a release.

Love it. I'm so happy about this.

Quote from: hunt on June 24, 2009, 12:00:20 PM

Quote from: BigEd76 on June 24, 2009, 11:22:47 AM
supposedly there's rumors of Michael Redd to the Sixers

-- Dalembert + LouWill?
-- Dalembert + Green + future 1st-rd pick?

rumor is that the sixers made the offer.  i haven't ready anything saying the bucks were interested.


holiday/lawson/maynor, in that order at 17....slight chance they take ellington instead of maynor as their plan "c".

I think they jump on Lawson, but from the all the workouts these 3 have been doing majority of scouts are saying Maynor has performed the best and is the the most nba ready at pg.

I havent heard much on Holiday at all

Getting rid of Dalembert and his contract and getting Redd?

Sign me up.

Here's the rectangle logo they didn't show at the press conference.  ESPN is using it in their graphics and the board with all the numbers and names on-stage in NYC is also using it...

(http://nba.imageg.net/graphics/product_images/p6331092dt.jpg)

Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on June 24, 2009, 10:06:44 PM
Getting rid of Dalembert and his contract and getting Redd?

Sign me up.

godfathers contract is not an issue...hell its the reason hes so tradeable right now

his contract is still a very big issue whether you want to believe it or not

him sucking ass is only one issue. the other issue is another team taking on an extra $24 million on their payroll + another close to $4 million with his trade kicker unless he waives it; which he wont because hes a stubborn son-of-a-bitch who thinks hes better than he is and would probably want to go to a contender

matching salaries up for $30 million is not easy, and even harder when youre talking about a player like Dalembert

the desirable contract is next year and blows up like the world trade

so do those sleeves come with that short sleeve hoodie or separately?

i was wondering if the skateboard comes with it

shut up you old pos

Jrue Holiday meh...project pick

I wanted Lawson or Maynor

meh pretty much sums it up...but i didnt think holiday would be here so id definitely rather have him than anyone else on the board

yeah that gets a big MEH

jay b threw out about 6 negatives on the guy before saying he was a top 10 pick

big meh, but at least it isn't Mullens

im so tired of them having tweener players or guys who play the same position

is brand a center
is lou williams a point
whos gonna play the three thad or iguodala

and now a draft pick who has no position


in that sense it would have been a relief ot get a lawson there...at least you know what they got

Boooo!

Should have taken Lawson.

I'm pretty sure he is a point, but I do agree with you they have too many players that are tweeners.  I guess this pick is as good as they could do, they certainly won't be competing in the east this season.  I guess they might as take someone with a high ceiling.  

this is starting to bother me more by the minute and more-so now hearing Lawson and Teague going consecutively afterwards--both with very good speed and one being a combo guard with size to defend

now once again you have a non-penetrating PG---farg eddie jordans system

Quote from: Drunkmasterflex on June 25, 2009, 09:24:54 PM
I'm pretty sure he is a point, but I do agree with you they have too many players that are tweeners.  I guess this pick is as good as they could do, they certainly won't be competing in the east this season.  I guess they might as take someone with a high ceiling.  

the hope is maybe he can turn into a point but hes a tweener all the way....his handle is not good enough to be a point and his shooting not good enough to be a two

bilas says his ceiling is high but then says hes not explosive or athletic...where exactly is the ceiling then

most scouts seem to say he could have went much higher so ill take their word for it and agree he was at least the best guy to take at that point...but thats the extent of my enthusiasm for the pick

I don't know how anybody could get upset by them picking a guard, chances are you are not getting a guy that is coming in and becoming a major contributor year #1 at 17 anyway.  

Quote from: Drunkmasterflex on June 25, 2009, 09:30:52 PM
I don't know how anybody could get upset by them picking a guard, chances are you are not getting a guy that is coming in and becoming a major contributor year #1 at 17 anyway. 

Maybe not a major contributor but how bout a guy that can step right in and run the point. Lawson would have been a perfect fit, he'd of struggled but he's more NBA ready.

Quote from: ice grillin you on June 25, 2009, 09:29:54 PM

Quote from: Drunkmasterflex on June 25, 2009, 09:24:54 PM
I'm pretty sure he is a point, but I do agree with you they have too many players that are tweeners.  I guess this pick is as good as they could do, they certainly won't be competing in the east this season.  I guess they might as take someone with a high ceiling.  

the hope is maybe he can turn into a point but hes a tweener all the way....his handle is not good enough to be a point and his shooting not good enough to be a two

bilas says his ceiling is high but then says hes not explosive or athletic...where exactly is the ceiling then

most scouts seem to say he could have went much higher so ill take their word for it and agree he was at least the best guy to take at that point...but thats the extent of my enthusiasm for the pick

Bilas actually said he was athletic, just not very explosive.

Quote from: Drunkmasterflex on June 25, 2009, 09:30:52 PM
I don't know how anybody could get upset by them picking a guard, chances are you are not getting a guy that is coming in and becoming a major contributor year #1 at 17 anyway.  

i hope his supposed upside shines thru in a few years but for me they basically drafted royal ivey...not exactly the guard i wanted....but im not upset at all...it was a zesty draft and they didnt have a high pick...nothing they really could have done...i just would have rather had a guy with more talent if youre gonna take flyer on someone anyway...or a player with a defined position...hell why not take a shot at jodie meeks (im half kidding)...they need a shooter way more than they need a tweener guard

One thing I will give the Sixers over the past few years they do seem to know what they are doing when it comes to the draft.  I am not excited by the pick I actually wanted Lawson or Teague, but most "experts" had this kid rated higher. 

Quote from: Drunkmasterflex on June 25, 2009, 09:41:57 PM
One thing I will give the Sixers over the past few years they do seem to know what they are doing when it comes to the draft.  I am not excited by the pick I actually wanted Lawson or Teague, but most "experts" had this kid rated higher. 

yeah definitely...im more than willing to give them the benefit of the doubt and i havent seen nearly enough of this kid to make a real good determination...so you gotta go with the scouts on this one

Quote4. Jrue Holiday
Holiday has been the other high riser over the course of the past few weeks, and no one probably helped himself more than Holiday at the combine.

He stacked up well against the other players physically, looked comfortable playing the point in drills, knocked down his jumper and received high marks in interviews.

Holiday actually netted one first-place vote in our poll and garnered several second- and third-place votes. He placed no lower than fifth on anyone's list.

With teams like the Kings, Warriors, Knicks, Bucks and Pacers all looking at him (basically the same list as Flynn), he, too, looks like he's a lock for the lottery.

Jrue is the dumbest farging spelling for a name I have seen since Errict Rhett.

(http://www.reclinergm.com/images/old-school-eddie-jordan.jpg)

 :-D he looks like he should be making an appearance on Good Times with that shtein.

I don't know if anybody saw this last night on CSN Steve Rosenberry said that Holiday is one of the best defenders maybe even the best he has seen over the past 20 years.   

His defense is about the only good thing I can think of. Too bad the position he's going to play require ball handling and shooting too.

Although I did like that he fell to 17. Why? Because his advisors refused to let him come workout for the Sixers because they felt he was going top 10.

Suck on that, pompous iceholes.

I cant believe 16 other teams passed on the best point defender in the last 20 years--shame on them

in 3 years when Holliday develops into a quality pg, the sixers are now down a PF in Brand and back to square one unless Speights and Smith become all-stars

this teams only hope is 2011 to acquire a big free agent SG to hopefully make up for their lack of a low post offensive threat that will be, but this all wishful thinking...

i liked the pick.  he has potential & i'd much rather them draft a guy like that than lawson, aka sherman douglas jr., who will be serviceable at best.

and there's a rumor about miller going to portland for blake & outlaw via s&t.  we'll see.

Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on June 26, 2009, 11:03:32 AM
His defense is about the only good thing I can think of. Too bad the position he's going to play require ball handling and shooting too.

Although I did like that he fell to 17. Why? Because his advisors refused to let him come workout for the Sixers because they felt he was going top 10.

Suck on that, pompous iceholes.

I don't think ball handling is an issue, shooting yes but he can an least become better at that. 

thad for rubio DO IT

how much more awesome is just something as simple as the presser curtains with the old symbol back..im so happy about this....welcome home old friend


(http://media.philly.com/images/062609_holiday1_600.jpg)

Lito Sheppard?

Quote from: ice grillin you on June 26, 2009, 05:10:57 PM
(http://media.philly.com/images/062609_holiday1_600.jpg)

Why is the white devil smiling?

Todd's boy Dionte agreed to play for the Sixers summer team with a shot at training camp

Quote from: MDS on June 26, 2009, 03:05:28 PM
thad for rubio DO IT

Rubio is the bust of the draft

already?

Quote from: BigEd76 on June 26, 2009, 06:51:01 PM
Todd's boy Dionte agreed to play for the Sixers summer team with a shot at training camp

Holliday and Christmas? cute.

Quote from: hunt on June 26, 2009, 02:25:03 PM
i liked the pick.  he has potential & i'd much rather them draft a guy like that than lawson, aka sherman douglas jr., who will be serviceable at best.

and there's a rumor about miller going to portland for blake & outlaw via s&t.  we'll see.

this rumor probably has some legs.  Ric Bucher posted on his twitter that Millers agent is adamant about a 3 year deal at $30 million. I cant see Stefanski doing 3 years...it doesnt make sense.

Bringing Miller over in a sign and trade gives Portland the cap flexibility to sign Hedu straight up.

I like the sign and trade. Blake has his best year as pro last year and has already ran the Princeton offense. He shot very well beyond 3 as well and Outlaw could add some very nice depth off the bench. 

3 years for Andre Miller is laughable, I don't want them to resign him anyway, especially not at that price. 

lol @ signing ol face andre

Seriously??? Lawson over Jrue??  You realize he is, at best, a 15 minute per game point guard.  Not to mention he has a ridiculous injury history.  I love the Jrue pick.  The guy is boom or bust, with a lot of potential.  Just like the Thad pick.. a guy with a lot of potential who fell because he had a bad freshmen year.  Jrue was playing out of position and in a system that didn't fit his style.  He's already an incredible defender. 

As for the Blake/Outlaw trade... a poster on another board has been on point with all his insider information the last few years.  This thing definitely has legs.  We are also trying to trade for Rip... but Detroit wants no part of it.

Additionally, we have tried to trade Sammy to just about any team, and no one wants him and his Billy King contract.

i dont really care about the jrew pick either way but i dont see boom with him at all...lets just hope its not a bust...everyone talkes upside with him because he has so far to go...but that doesnt mean his ceiling is ultimately that high

like i said when they drafted him he reminds me of royal ivey...dont get me wrong i think he hs the potential to be better than him but hes a very comparable player skill wise

i just dont see a lot of talent in jrew

out of position or not, he couldnt shoot a lick and that bothers me..even as a pg. There will plenty of times a play breaks down and he will be asked to pull up, matter of fact if you a top 10 talent you better have a pull up off the dribble..can he improve on that and do it consistently will be the big question.

This team already had one Eric Snow, and while he could defend his ass off Im over that.

nm

not only cant he shoot he doesnt appear to possess an ability to get by a lot of people either

he seems to have good vision thats the only plus skill ive noticed...granted without having seen a ton of him

Guy with sources from the realgm boards:

Quotemiller is all about the money and length of contract..we wont go 3 years....he wont be here. Portland will get him..and its probably gonna be sign and trade.

No word on who might be coming back (Blake or possibly Outlaw?)

QuotePHILADELPHIA — It's no secret that the Sixers would like to trade Samuel Dalembert this summer, just like it's no secret that Dalembert has asked the Sixers to trade him in the past.


The Sixers could have a match now that Houston Rockets center Yao Ming might miss the entire season and possibly more with a foot injury that hasn't healed.

The Rockets would also like to trade Tracy McGrady, who is entering the final season of his contract worth $23.2 million.

According to an NBA source, the Sixers might look into such a deal.

In order to make the salaries match within 25 percent, the Sixers would have to include another player or two. Dalembert has two years and $23.6 million left, including $11.4 million this coming season.
But Dalembert also has a 15 percent trade kicker, which would add $3.8 million to his contract. That has been a huge roadblock in the Sixers' previous attempts to trade him.

Another roadblock could be the other player, or players, the Sixers would have to include in the deal.

The Sixers would most likely be willing to include Willie Green ($3.7 million) and perhaps a future draft pick, but not Lou Williams ($5 million).

McGrady, meanwhile, is expected to miss the first half of next season as he recovers from knee surgery.

That won't matter to the Sixers as much as McGrady's expiring contract, which would make the Sixers potential players in the heralded free agent class of 2010 (they wouldn't be in the running for LeBron James).

There aren't too many other possible landing spots for Dalembert because of his contract and trade kicker.

"Every team has bad contracts," the source said. "But that trade (kicker) just adds insult to injury."

The Sixers also know that Dalembert could sulk if he returns and isn't playing regularly under coach Eddie Jordan. That's something he has done in the past.

It would seem that Dalembert would get a chance to play regularly in Houston.

But if the Sixers make that deal, chances are they wouldn't be able to re-sign Andre Miller without going over the luxury tax because of McGrady's contract.

They might not be able to re-sign Miller anyway.

The negotiating period for free agents began just past midnight, but it's likely that the Sixers won't want to sign Miller for more than two seasons.

Miller's agent, Andy Miller (no relation), hasn't returned phone calls. Miller, 33, made $10 million last season, and chances are, he's looking for one last big contract, perhaps for four years.

The Sixers probably won't go for that. They drafted Jrue Holiday to be the point guard of the future. The Sixers would be OK with letting Holiday learn behind Miller for a season or two, but probably not more than that.

The Sixers could work out a sign-and-trade with Miller. There are rumors that Portland could be interested, with the Sixers getting point guard Steve Blake, who played under Jordan in Washington.

That scenario could depend on whether Portland makes a run at Hedo Turkoglu. If that happens, the Blazers probably wouldn't have enough money to go after Miller.

If Miller leaves, the Sixers could turn over the point guard position to Williams, who is entering his fifth season. This would be somewhat of a gamble, considering Williams has never really had the chance to play point guard with Miller on the team.

Link (http://www.courierpostonline.com/article/20090701/SPORTS03/907010364/1002/sports/Dalembert-s-future-murky)

In for both deals, especially since McGrady's contract expires after the season.

i love how it says at the end if miller leaves they could turn over the point to lou...if miller leaves they will have exactly two guys on the roster who could play point and one is a 19 year old rookie

miller is finished.
sam sucks.

get the expiring contract, play what you got, figure out where you want spend your cash, do it in 2010

According to the gws nobody wants Sammy...nobody.

If Miller isn't signed and traded for Blake/Outlaw they may explore Bibby or Parker.

All the Rocket fans at work want Dalembert. They seem to think he's good. Ship his ass down here to the Toyota Center.

Who may explore Bibby/Parker?

The Sixers if a Miller s & t falls through.

Miller apparently wants a 3 year $10 mill per deal the Sixers are offering a 2 year $8 mill per deal. If he's shipped to Portland it'll be for a s & t for Blake and Outlaw. Portland is hot for Turkoglu. Sixers have been talking to the Pistons about Rip but the Pistons have something else in the works. From what this guy says they'll give Sammy away but they have no takers. That deal for McGrady's expiring deal is a pipe dream...I'd include LouWill or a 1st to get it done. The Sixers just want a vet PG to hold the fort down for 2 seasons until Holiday is ready.

I cant figure out why Ed wants to take on Rips contract--plus wheres he getting the loot to do it anyway?

Hamilton is a good player and a nice defender, but his days of being the quickest on the floor, running circles all game long, and bouncing off screens for a wide-open shot are behind him

wheew what an offseason

obviously news around the league that the cap will be significantly lower next year and 2011 hurts the FA market, but ed offering miller a 1 yr deal at 6 million will not sit well-- and they could easily start the season miller-less, shooting guard lou williams at pg, no real grooming for holliday and a disgruntled alcoholic center in sam dalembert.

the confusing thing about miller is stefanski was just quoted in saying that "going with an aging pg on a multi-year deal is not the direction we want to go with the young nucleus we have...." then why the farg didnt he trade him at the deadline when he had the chance if that was his plan?

there is a 0% chance anyone reads that

Quote
Jrue Holiday impresses scouts beyond his numbers
By Kate Fagan

Inquirer Staff Writer

ORLANDO - Although Jrue Holiday's numbers at this Orlando Pro Summer League might appear unimpressive, most NBA scouts remain impressed.

Through four games, Holiday is averaging 8.8 points, 3.3 rebounds, 2.75 assists, 1.75 steals, 3.5 turnovers, and 0.8 blocks a game, hardly overwhelming numbers for the 76ers' first-round draft pick.

Yet there is something about his play, his fundamentally sound outside shot, his solid ball handling, his aggressive, on-balance defense that has many NBA insiders believing the Sixers got lucky when the 19-year-old dropped to the 17th pick.

"If you're Philly and he drops to you, it's a no-brainer," one NBA scout said.

The consensus is that while Holiday is more a "project" than a "step-in-and-play" guy, he has the physical tools to become an NBA starter and could contribute 12-15 minutes a game this coming season.

"He looks like he belongs," said another scout.

"He makes passes you can't teach," said a third. "And in this league, when everyone is worried about their next shot, he would be a fun guy to play with."

Sure, Holiday is committing errors: In one sequence late in yesterday afternoon's 83-62 loss to the Oklahoma City Thunder, Holiday dribbled too much, tried to get to the middle, and then lost the ball in traffic. A few seconds later, he caught the ball on the sideline, his heel already out of bounds.

But there are better moments - a steal at midcourt and an effortless dunk - and what becomes clear is his easy ability to part with the basketball if it's the right pass, his understanding of angles as he draws away defenders, then, at just the right second, feeding a bounce pass in stride to an open teammate.

In the first quarter, Holiday passed up an open three-pointer from just off the top of the key. Instead, he took one dribble to the left, the defender recovered, and Holiday picked up his dribble, nowhere to go.

An anomaly in these proving-ground leagues, Holiday's was a mistake of letting a scoring opportunity pass rather than forcing a shot that wasn't there.

"Shoot that, Jrue," whispered one scout, more to himself than anyone else.

"He's only 19, he has so much to learn."

The consensus is that Holiday is doing a little too much thinking, not enough reacting. On the last play of the game, Holiday curled along the three-point line, caught a pass, and immediately lifted into his shot. It was his only made three-pointer of the day.

The shot was more reaction than thought.

What might Holiday's future look like this season? Should he play? How much? Might he start?

"He'll play," said one scout. "Starting? That would be asking a lot of the kid."

A Sammy spotting. Sixers center Samuel Dalembert was at the RDX Sportsplex for yesterday's games.

When Dalembert arrived, he said hello to Orlando Magic center Dwight Howard. The pair talked about the elbow Howard threw at Dalembert during the Sixers' first-round playoff series against the Magic. For that elbow, Howard was suspended for Game 6 of the playoffs.

Howard apologized.

"He said, 'Don't elbow me back,' " Dalembert explained. "I know Dwight. . . . I was surprised it happened; it was frustration . . . we're all right."

Dalembert also talked about this summer's various trade rumors as well as his midseason request for a trade.

"I asked for that because I didn't think they were using me to my full potential." Dalembert said. "If [a trade] doesn't happen, I'm not miserable. I said it, and I stick by it. If it's going to be a yo-yo with me again, and we're losing, trust me, God as my witness, if we're winning, I'll be the happiest guy on the planet."

Added Dalembert: "And now it's about 'Sam's offense' . . . We have scorers, we pay guys to score, that's their job. My job is to control the defense. If the guys we got, you know, cannot get that done, as a whole we need to get better offensively."

Dalembert lives in Florida during the off-season and said he had been doing a lot of yoga, working on his flexibility, and doing stabilization exercises for the shoulder he injured at the end of last season. Dalembert said he would begin "really hard" basketball workouts next week.

Chris Duhons agent is try to work a sign and trade with the Sixers

Sixers are looking for a draft pick to go with it

I think think the draft pick will be irrelevant in this case, but hes a nice stop gap pg that can play the pick and roll off Brand and hit the occasional 3...shtein hes better than going with Lou Will...get it.

Duhon has a year left on his deal with the Knicks.  No need for a sign and trade.

I'd be fine with Duhon as a stopgap player because he's younger. LOL at Miller and his agent thinking he'd get 3 years $30 million.

Quote from: SD_Eagle on July 11, 2009, 03:42:17 PM
I'd be fine with Duhon as a stopgap player because he's younger. 

i cant believe how young he is...i would have said he was 30...hes only friggin 26

Quote from: Rome on July 11, 2009, 03:09:42 PM
Duhon has a year left on his deal with the Knicks.  No need for a sign and trade.

the knicks can only offer Miller the MLE at 5.6 million without the sign and trade. with the s&t they can give him 7.6 million. its obvious after trying to lure Jason Kidd, they are looking for a veteran pg to run the break in that offense

the knicks only have to guarantee 1 year of Millers 3 yr contract anyway if traded.

if the sixers scoop duhon and his 6 million, it comes of the books next year. hell...I would do this trade straight up without the draft pick

well...being that that piece of shtein rumor that gained national attention is all but dead with Duhon, the Sixers have 10 guys signed right now with 5 spots to fill

I cant wait to see who Stefanski plugs in

Per Hoopsworld:

Stefanski says to be in sign and trade mode, but with nothing tangible on the horizon, (Ed) Stefanski has begun contacting agents about free-agent guards who might accept a 1-year contract and fill a role as a combination backup and mentor to Lou Williams and first-round draft choice Jrue Holiday.

That list, according to the source, includes - in no particular order - Jason Hart, Carlos Arroyo, Bobby Jackson, Juan Dixon, Tyronn Lue and Brevin Knight. In a curious twist, Jackson and Lue are also clients of Andy Miller.

wow...so bad...but if I had to choose its a toss-up between Lue and Knight---I probably go Knight

If they sign Lue, I refuse to watch them until his time is up.  I can't stand that douchebag

From shteinbag guards to shteinbag bigs...

QuoteNot Necessarily A Big Help

What does it say when the 76ers need a couple of big men to help fill out their roster, and the best names could turn out to be Primoz Brezec and Chris Mihm?

A source familiar with the Sixers' situation suggests a grouping the team could be considering internally includes Brezec, Mihm, Aaron Gray, Ryan Hollins, Jared Reiner, Jake Voshkuhl, Adonal Foyle and Earl Barron.

OK, we'll wait while you catch your breath.

They're all between 6-10 and 7-0. None of them have exactly imposing statistics. They all have some level of NBA experience. And that's about what you'll find in a search for guys to be the 13th or 14th men on a roster.

Since it's unclear whether the Sixers have reached out to any of these guys it's probably not worth going through their various backgrounds at this point. Maybe if one or two of them get invited to training camp.

Excuse me while I go vomit

can they slide further into oblivion?

who cares who the 10th man on the roster is much less the last couple

Quote from: MDS on July 22, 2009, 10:03:19 PM
can they slide further into oblivion?

They're such a distant 4th in this city that it really doesn't matter.

they can easily pass the flyers but right now are below villanova hoops

Quote from: MDS on July 23, 2009, 12:56:30 AM
they can easily pass the flyers but right now are below PAL hoops

per the king andre miller to sign with portland 3 yrs 7 mil per 2 guarnteed

mismanagement at its finest getting nathanson for Miller at the deadline

one key injury away from a 25 win season and a lottery pick

Here's the non-Eskin link:

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=4354227

And 21 million for Andre Miller is retarded beyond belief.

Quote from: reese125 on July 24, 2009, 03:49:51 PM
mismanagement at its finest getting nathanson for Miller at the deadline

one key injury away from a 25 win season and a lottery pick

thats what they need you friggin retard.

aint gonna win shtein by adding on to a mediocre team with spare parts. they have a 35-40 win roster locked in for the next five years. this thing needs to get blown the farg up and a 10-20 win season with a top five pick is the best thing that can happen. or you somehow sign lebron.

jason smith came into the restaurant i work at. he is farging tall. easily the tallest human i have ever seen. and his girl is smokin hot. 

you only think he's tall because jews stop growing once they reach 5'5".  it's not because there's some sort of height deficiency among your people.  mostly it's because you're too cheap to keep buying longer pants. 

if you had gone for 5'9 the joke would have landed better.

i know like 3 jews taller than that. im about 5'8 which is fairly tall for my kind.

freak

Whatever happened to this guy?

(http://www.tamirgoodman.com/media/000023.jpg)



btw the Sixers are apparently bringing Royal Ivey back...

the jewish jordan is playing in israel. he was never really good enough to play pro but if he wasnt such a Hoyda jew he could have gotten a free ride to maryland.

good enough to play pro??

he sucked and wasnt good enough to play college

md pulled their scholly because he was so horrible he then couldnt even get on the court for towson and quit

Quote from: ice grillin you on August 03, 2009, 01:17:51 PMmd pulled their scholly because he was so horrible

They pulled it because he wouldn't play on Friday and Saturday nights

Quote from: BigEd76 on August 03, 2009, 01:21:18 PM

Quote from: ice grillin you on August 03, 2009, 01:17:51 PMmd pulled their scholly because he was so horrible

They pulled it because he wouldn't play on Friday and Saturday nights

negative....thats what his camp said...but it was a complete fabrication...they backed out because he sucked

goodmans people also accused the coach at towson of being anti semitic

goodman is a full hassidic orthodox. those people are insane. think super christians x 100000.

they live in these little introverted communities and pretend its biblical times. they look down on other people who are jewish who arent as religious and dont follow the bible and other bullshtein to the letter. they are sick, twisted human beings who should rot in their little god infested towns. farg them.

theres a big difference between that and regular jews and then of course self-hating jewish athiests like myself.

the Sixers schedule will be released tomorrow

Jews

I expect a full game by game W/L breakdown promptly after the release.

schedule (http://www.nba.com/sixers/schedule/)

-- open at Orlando on 10/28 and end at Orlando on 4/14
-- home opener on 10/30 vs the Bucks (same time as a Pearl Jam concert at the Spectrum)
-- the usual Martin Luther King day game isn't home this year...they're at Minnesota instead
-- 4/3 vs Toronto is their only home game that starts before 7pm
-- Memphis (4/10) is the only Western Conference city they won't visit before March 1
-- only 1 visit by Indiana and Washington
-- only 1 visit to Atlanta and Cleveland

easy is back bitches

now center Primoz Brezec has agreed to join the Philadelphia 76ers--$1.1 million

go Clippers!

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gay. where are the 83 jerseys.

actually those are dope...but yeah why not go straight throwback....or are these some sort of third jersey

if youre trying to bring americas colors into the mix forget it--the satin blue trim kills the get up

if they are a third jersey they get an A

but if they are going with the 83 johnsons for their home jersey and then these as their road jersey they get a C

i cant imagine thats the case....these have to be a third jersey right?

easy?

I thought I read they were having a red 3rd uni, so I assume this is it?

when i heard they were going old school, i assumed they were going all the way with it and were bringing back the short shorts. 

fail. 

that's the new road uniform, not an alternate

what a dumb idea...how hypocritical was that now fraudulant media event where they unvieled the new old colors and emblem...and everyone waxed poetic ad nauseum about how this is who the real sixers are and going back to the calssic colors and uniforms was mean to be.......blah blah blah yap yap yap blah blah....dumb asses

how cool is this.....

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well thats a start

Those jerseys might be halfway acceptable if they just got rid of that atrocious thick blue outline. My goodness.

more pics of the court (http://www.nba.com/sixers/news/unveil_new_court_design_090810.html)

and Ivey officially re-signed today

the court pics give me boners. 

Ed Pinckney replaces Salmi as color commentator

i didnt think it was possible to fire bob salmi and actually downgrade the color chair

salmi was awful. why did they get rid of mix. he and zumoff we great together.

Just put some headphones on Hip-Hop and call it a day

QuoteSixers center Samuel Dalembert just listed his one-bedroom condo at the Metro Club (8th & Race) on the market, reports Philly.BlockShopper.com. The asking price is $399,900, which is $23,000 less than he bought it for in September 2005, the real estate transaction site reports.

and supposedly Carney might be coming back

lol @ this team

what an astronomical joke.

lol @ sammy living in a 400K home.  spend that shtein like a true athlete. 

He could buy Haiti for 400K.

Rodney Carney is back.

Can the Sixers start tanking?

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does the brand jersey come with a commemorative infirmary patch on it? 

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no really.  totally different

man did they really farg up the whole going back to the golden age thing....its still a 1000% improvement over what they were rockin but what would be so bad about just going back to 82-83

The shorts.

They look like a gay version of the clippers

at least one of them should have philly on the front

They should get a new franchise

leave my sixers alone

Quote"I'm excited to be healthy; I'm excited to add to the team," Brand said. "Two first-round losses the last two years for a young team is OK, but I was brought in here to go farther than that, and that's my goal and that's what I've been thinking about the entire off-season."

"He's looking great," Young said of Brand. "I've been out there with him for the past week and you can tell he's been in the gym. He's making all his little turnaround jumpers, he's doing hook shots, he's taking you off the dribble going to the basket. We'll have to see how he's going to go during the season, but right now he's playing like a monster."

Brand, 30, has been in town working with new coach Eddie Jordan, learning the intricacies of Jordan's version of the Princeton offense.

Brand said he has only been through the basics, but he likes what he has seen so far, adding that he believes the offense will exploit the mid-post area, an area in which Brand, with his soft touch, excels.

Stefanski said Brand's doctor called after a physical this summer and told the general manager, "This kid's cut like a prizefighter."

"All I know is he wants to show everybody who Elton Brand is," Stefanski said. "I don't know if he's putting pressure on himself or not; I hope he isn't because he doesn't have to be our savior or carry us."

I'm starting to get excited to see basketball again.

I'm not excited about the Jordan hire, but I'm willing to be convinced. Someone comfort me.

i cant wait either....i just ordered the package last night

why dont you like the jordan hire....its easily the best they could have done this off season

my only concern with it is that he runs such a specialized offense that instead of getting off to a good start the team is going to spend the first three months learning it

thus in january they are going to be in like 10th place in the conference four games out of the playoffs....make another second half run that gets them to 6th or 7th....and a first round exit

Quote from: ice grillin you on September 24, 2009, 04:12:28 PM
i cant wait either....i just ordered the package last night

why dont you like the jordan hire....its easily the best they could have done this off season

my only concern with it is that he runs such a specialized offense that instead of getting off to a good start the team is going to spend the first three months learning it

thus in january they are going to be in like 10th place in the conference four games out of the playoffs....make another second half run that gets them to 6th or 7th....and a first round exit

I don't really hate Jordan, I'm indifferent to him for the most part. I really wanted Avery Johnson, but its obvious he's waiting for the San Antonio job.

But I didn't feel warm and fuzzy because of exactly what you said; his specialized offense. I think it requires a strong point, and the Sixers don't have that.

Although if they can run it well and exploit a defense's weak side, they have the athletic guys who can finish well.

Brand-Thad-Speights-Iggy....nice core.

Your boy Sammy...whats up with him? WIll he do anything this year ya think?

actually his offense requires no point....which is why it just might work with the sixers

if he didnt do anything last year with no brand i highly doubt he does anything this year with even less run...it will actually be interesting to see how much play he gets....never count out the godfather tho

Quote from: ice grillin you on September 24, 2009, 04:21:05 PM
actually his offense requires no point....which is why it just might work with the sixers

if he didnt do anything last year with no brand i highly doubt he does anything this year with even less run...it will actually be interesting to see how much play he gets....never count out the godfather tho

No point? Isn't it a Princeton thing with a lot of passing? I thought it would require someone with point skills.

exactly...point skills...but not a true point...

it relies really more on movement than even passing...i mean obviously passing is important but its not about seeing the whole court on a break or knowing how to control tempo...things that ones need to do...its more about flashing and coming off screens...being at a spot your supposed to be at and having someone get you the ball there

people like lou...iguodala and jason smith should thrive in an offense like this

not to say that a chris paul couldnt but this offense can cover up a weakness at the one much like the triangle offense does

Good stuff.

And I forgot about Jason Smith coming back. Hopefully he will help out on the boards (along with Brand) because I was sick of seeing them get whupped on the glass.

If they can maintain the up tempo game, maybe have a happy medium, and still run this offense well that would be nice. I say happy medium because we know Brand wasn't cut for the Cheeks/DiLeo full court marathons.

Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on September 24, 2009, 04:38:02 PM
Good stuff.

And I forgot about Jason Smith coming back. Hopefully he will help out on the boards (along with Brand) because I was sick of seeing them get whupped on the glass.

If they can maintain the up tempo game, maybe have a happy medium, and still run this offense well that would be nice. I say happy medium because we know Brand wasn't cut for the Cheeks/DiLeo full court marathons.

I see Jason Smith out a lot in Manayunk.  The dude's girl is like 5'3.  Kind of an odd couple.

And Sammy bought some zesty restaurant in Manayunk... Zesty's.  I saw his ass with Don Tolefson sipping on some cocktails in the summer.  I was hoping we'd get rid of him this offseason, but he's less desirable than AIDS.

You live in the yunk?

Quote from: MDS on September 24, 2009, 08:34:51 PM
You live in the yunk?

Used to... still usually head there one night on the weekend...

I tend to stay around the Mad River/Brew Pub Area.

I worked at the couch tomato before gwttin a new job. Also mad river sucks

Quote from: MDS on September 24, 2009, 10:39:01 PM
I worked at the couch tomato before gwttin a new job. Also mad river sucks

It's hit or miss.  Sometimes its packed with hot girls.. other nights it's absolutely horrible... filled with gross mongrels.

Weren't you the one talking about seeing Clark and company in there the one night? haha

http://www.philly.com/philly/blogs/deep-sixer/The_Offense.html

QuoteOn Samuel Dalembert:

"He's going to be our center and he's going to be taught our offense from the center position whether it's high post or low post. I like the fact that Samuel can make shots around the elbow, top of the key, free-throw line. That puts a lot of pressure on the defense. Now, he has to be a willing passer and we'll see if he's a willing passer. And we'll try to make him understand the more he passes the easier it is for him to score ... if he believes and trusts in what we believe in, he'll make his teammates better and make himself better."

"I'm fresh, I'm new ... I want to get to know him myself, him and I ... I know there have been ups and downs with his play and this is a fresh start."

QuoteOn Lou Williams at the point:

"We want Lou to be Lou, first of all. He's an open-court player and that's what we want to do first, get out in the open court and get to the basket ..."

"I think Lou is more athletic and a lot more determined defensively than the point guard they had here starting before."

"Attack, fast, quick point guard that gets to the rim ... we're going to give him all the opportunity in the world to be a 38-minute a night player and, you know what, in the NBA that means a lot."

A shot at Andre Miller...

i appreciate what he did but im so farging glad andre miller is gone...they got rid of him at the absolute perfect time...which is not always the case in professional sports...it would have been so easy to resign him

Quote from: bowzer on September 24, 2009, 11:06:43 PM

Quote from: MDS on September 24, 2009, 10:39:01 PM
I worked at the couch tomato before gwttin a new job. Also mad river sucks

It's hit or miss.  Sometimes its packed with hot girls.. other nights it's absolutely horrible... filled with gross mongrels.

Weren't you the one talking about seeing Clark and company in there the one night? haha

yea, not my choice. i got dragged. still blows.

Stromile Swift, Philadelphia 76er

He's still in the league?

can we contract this team?

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Easy please no pics they don't show on the mobile version of cf thank you

QuoteStromile Swift, one of four to sign a free agent contract recently, suffered a strain to his left hamstring late in the morning practice and was not expected to participate in the night session.

He is listed as day-to-day.

Swift, a former first-round draft pick, played in a total of 19 games last season for New Jersey and Phoenix.

Other notes:

* Jason Smith is wearing a sleeve on his surgically repaired left knee, but moved well around the court. Smith missed all of last season.

* Coach Eddie Jordan yelled and stopped the practice twice when reporters were in, the first for two big men not running the court and crisscrossing with each other down low to start the offense and the other time was because an outlet to Andre Iguodala didn't lead him far enough. "We want you out in the open floor, one-on-one," he shouted.

* Due to his left Achilles injury suffered two seasons ago, Brand says his left calf is a half inch smaller than his right one. "I do extra lifting with it to try to balance them out. It was an inch-and-a-half smaller last year"

* Sean Singletary did a real nice job of playing on the ball defense.

* Syracuse coach Jim Boeheim was a visitor to the morning workout, as was Phil Martelli, who made the short stroll from his beautiful new office at the Ramsey Center to the practice courts.

QuoteJordan said Dalembert was the second-best shooter on the team, perhaps tied with Andre Iguodala (obviously Jason Kapono being the best).

wow

do i need to school you on the godfather easy?

Quote from: MDS on September 28, 2009, 06:08:19 PM
can we contract this team?

where they playing pool?  maybe paintball?  

Swift and Singletary were waived

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4-0 bitches

Brand was throwing elbows around last night and caught Jared Jeffries in the head, cutting him open.  When Jeffries got in his face, Brand said "you're soft".  ha

that boy is on a mission this year...and he should be

QuoteHoliday's DNP

76ers rookie Jrue Holiday received a DNP-Coach's Decision last night against the New York Knicks. He was the only player suited up that didn't get in the game. After today's practice, Sixers coach Eddie Jordan talked about not playing Holiday. He said he felt bad he didn't get him in the game. His reasoning was that New York's guards -- Chris Duhon, Nate Robinson, etc. -- were playing at a high, intense level. Higher than is usual for a pre-season game. Jordan said he didn't feel comfortable tossing Holiday into that situation. It sounded like he was uncomfortable with it not because of potential mistakes/turnovers, but moreso to preserve Holiday's psyche.

Jordan said before today's practice he addressed some "behavior" issues from last night's game. Some "exhibited frustration" by his players. Jordan said that as the team's leader he thought it important to quickly talk about some of these things ... early in the season. On this point, I have to agree with him. It seemed in the second quarter -- when things really weren't going well -- that some unnamed Sixers were having less than positive energy. In fact, that's a term Jordan used: don't bring negative energy to the court. On one play, I believe it was the second quarter, Willie Green and Andre Iguodala went up for the same rebound. Iguodala snatched it from Green -- barely -- but when he came down, he glared at Green then stole a look to the Sixers bench as if to say, "what's he doing trying to take that rebound from me?" (That's how the interaction looked from press row, about 10 yards away.) I'm assuming these are the types of interactions that Jordan would want to eliminate. Awesome that he's addressing them so early.

Overall, Jordan said he took a lot of good things from Tuesday night's game: how the team responded in the second half, how the big players stepped up and got things done, how Lou responded to a poor start shooting, how Brand played. Sure enough, it's the pre-season, you gotta find the good things to take away, but having actually seen the game, and not actually being paid to coach the Sixers: it wasn't very good. Although a lot of the poor play belonged to the Knicks.

(Also of note, both Willie Green and Jason Smith were getting over flu symptoms ...)

The Sixers practiced about 90 minutes today. They looked to be practicing at a higher intensity and it seemed as if it was important to get in a good practice after the Knicks game.

The Princeton Offense: Jordan took the team out of the PO after the first quarter. Jordan said he is still learning how to coach this team and that the move was an "in-game feel," based on some of the Knicks knowing the Princeton. He explained that because he hasn't installed all of the options, his guys were out there without the proper counters. He also said that some of those Knicks would still know the calls for plays and because his guys weren't at the point where they could run the offense without calls (based on reads), he felt like continuing to run it would put them at a disadvantage. That all makes sense.

Rodney Carney won't be making the trip to Phoenix/Mexico. He is still out with a strained left hamstring. He's still officially listed as day-to-day, but I'd be surprised if he was back before the end of the pre-season games. He looks a little gimpy. Samuel Dalembert was wearing some sort of tape around his right calf today, and at times he looked to be limping, but the Sixers did not report any injury to Dalembert.

Still doing the Twitter thing. If you want to join, click here: Deep Sixer.

--Kate

That's not good. Obvious speculation by Fagan, but if it is true I hope Iggy isn't getting the big head

reason 1a why this team is a colossal joke is the offense and team running through a complete clown like igoudala. an awkward, goofy loser with no jump shot and a cocky, ridiculous attitude justified by an inept organization.

he sucks and this ship aint gonna come close to be righted til hes gone 

listen to yourself. I cant stand coming in this thread or any thread and hearing you speak kid

you try SO hard to put up this negative front and be a hard charger all the time ...please stop

Iggy wants to be a one-man wrecking crew like Teen Wolf

QuoteHis reasoning was that New York's guards -- Chris Duhon, Nate Robinson, etc. -- were playing at a high, intense level. Higher than is usual for a pre-season game. Jordan said he didn't feel comfortable tossing Holiday into that situation. It sounded like he was uncomfortable with it not because of potential mistakes/turnovers, but moreso to preserve Holiday's psyche.

Im not down with this at all. enough with the psyche excuse. this is not an nfl qb...this is basketball. if another guy is playing at a higher tempo, you respond with a higher tempo yourself.

if you want a contribution from a 1st year player, the only way these kids learn is by throwing them into the fire. not to mention, this is not kobe hes going against...we are talking about chris duhon here

hes 19 with no great physical or skill set tools...hes not a guy thats gonna get over on talent so he has to learn how to play before he gets thrown in against guys that will absolutely embarrass him...now one could argue the preseason is the time to do this and thats fair but at the same time i have no problem with eddie holding him back

hes simply not even close to being able to play in the league

Quote from: reese125 on October 15, 2009, 08:44:12 AM
listen to yourself. I cant stand coming in this thread or any thread and hearing you speak kid

you try SO hard to put up this negative front and be a hard charger all the time ...please stop

lololololol

how old are you

1. Ed pickeny blows

2. The court looks sweet

3. Attendance is going to be even more putrid than last year

the attendance is obviously going to suck by why did you need to and why would you use a preseason game to "figure" that out

just some observations from checkin a little of the game

on what planet should this not be addressed. this is a putrid, awful team and they are below la salle on the popularity scale. they still my squad but whats there is there.

i dont care if you pointed it out or not but i could have told you last season that the attendance was going to suck this season...

even the top drawing teams have tons of empty seats in preseason...thus i found it funny that that was one of your keen observations from the game last night

how horrible was that call to end the game.  Replacement Refs FTL

Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on October 14, 2009, 11:24:44 PM
On one play, I believe it was the second quarter, Willie Green and Andre Iguodala went up for the same rebound. Iguodala snatched it from Green -- barely -- but when he came down, he glared at Green then stole a look to the Sixers bench as if to say, "what's he doing trying to take that rebound from me?" (That's how the interaction looked from press row, about 10 yards away.) I'm assuming these are the types of interactions that Jordan would want to eliminate. Awesome that he's addressing them so early.

Good.  The less Willie Green touches the basketball, the better.  Easily my least favorite Philly athlete out of all of the teams.

i know it was a preseason game but he took the last shot last night. on what orifice of existence should you hold for one with willie green. he is beyond atrocious. 

Quote from: Seabiscuit36 on October 21, 2009, 09:18:37 AM
how horrible was that call to end the game.  Replacement Refs FTL

brutal

Quote from: MDS on October 12, 2009, 12:07:16 PM
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seeya bye

HOREshtein

Dionte got arrested

http://www.philly.com/philly/blogs/dncrime/Ex-Sixer_Dionte_Christmas_arrested_in_N_Philly.html

Did not strike at all as guy who'd get himself into this spot.

new blonde hottness replaces Dei Lynam on sidelines (http://www.philly.com/philly/sports/SportsNet_replaces_Dei_Lynam_as_Sixers_sideline_reporter.html)

Dei will do pre/postgame in the studio now