9th annual CF First Round Mock Draft Contest

Started by SD, April 21, 2010, 09:38:47 AM

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SD


The 9th annual  CF NFL draft 1st round mock contest is ready to go. I know this looks like a lot of stuff, but it is just to cover all the bases. Please read this carefully. Also sorry for the late notice I've been dealing with finals and a bitch of a baby's momma.

- Anyone who wants to participate must submit a full first round mock draft.

- The mock must be messaged to me through the board IM by THURSDAY APRIL 22nd AT 6 PM. Since I'm late on this it will give whoever wants to participate time to tweek their mocks .  I wont accept them after that.

- If you submit a draft to me and a major trade takes place involving picks, you can submit a new draft by the above date.  If there are no NFL trades there are no new drafts accepted.

- The mock may have any trades you want to make.  Yes the Eagles could draft #1 overall if you want them too.

- winner gets their name on the champs list and bragging rights.  And whatever name GF comes up with for them under their screen name.   

Tiebreakers- You must send in a tiebreaker question.   Tiebreaker question-  How many offensive players will be selected in the first round?
First tiebreaker is whomever correctly selected more perfect picks aka 10 pointers.
Second tiebreaker is the answer to the question above.


The scoring:
Right Team, Right Slot = 10 pts
Right Team, Wrong Slot = 5  pts
Wrong Team, Right Slot = 5 pts

a couple quick examples for anyone unfamiliar with that scoring.

For instance, The Rams select #1 in the first round.  If you have the Rams taking Eric Berry with the #1 and they do take Eric Berry with #1 you have scored 10 points for the correct team at the correct slot.

If you have the Rams trading down to the #3 spot and taking Eric Berry, and they do that in the draft, you would also score 10 points.

If you have the Rams taking Eric Berry at #1 and they trade down to #3 and take Eric Berry you would score 5 points.  You had them taking the correct player, but not in the correct drafting slot.

If you have the Rams taking Eric Berry at #1 and the 49ers trade up to the #1 spot and draft Eric Berry you would get 5 points.  You had Eric Berry at the correct drafting slot (#1), but had the wrong team selecting him.

If you have the Rams drafting Eric Berry #1 and they draft Jimmy Claussen at #1 you get zero points for getting nothing correct.

Past Champions are:
2002- Henchman
2003- Diomedes
2004- Mikey
2005- Phreak/Troy
2006- DemonchildrenOnTurf
2007 - Demon
2008 - SunMo
2009 - Demon

The more people that sign up the more fun it is, so copy and paste away.

I think thats about it.  If you are interested sign up here.  If I missed something or if there are any questions post away.

1    St. Louis Rams          
2    Detroit Lions          
3    Tampa Bay Buccaneers          
4    Washington taterskins          
5    Kansas City Chiefs          
6    Seattle Seahawks          
7    Cleveland Browns          
8    Oakland Raiders          
9    Buffalo Bills          
10    Jacksonville Jaguars          
11    Denver Broncos (from Chicago) [R1 trade 1]          
12    Miami Dolphins          
13    San Francisco 49ers          
14    Seattle Seahawks (from Denver) [R1 trade 2]          
15    New York Giants          
16    Tennessee Titans          
17    San Francisco 49ers (from Carolina) [R1 trade 3]          
18    Pittsburgh Steelers          
19    Atlanta Falcons          
20    Houston Texans          
21    Cincinnati Bengals          
22    New England Patriots          
23    Green Bay Packers          
24    Philadelphia Eagles          
25    Baltimore Ravens          
26    Arizona Cardinals          
27    Dallas Cowboys          
28    San Diego Chargers          
29    New York Jets          
30    Minnesota Vikings          
31    Indianapolis Colts          
32    New Orleans Saints          



Drunkmasterflex

I will do it if some people actually participate.
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Diomedes

There is considerable overlap between the intelligence of the smartest bears and the dumbest tourists." - Yosemite Park Ranger

SD

Dio

1    St. Louis Rams             QB Sam Bradford, Oklahoma (6-4, 236)
2    Detroit Lions             DT Ndamukong Suh, Nebraska (6-4, 307)
3    Tampa Bay Buccaneers             DT Gerald McCoy, Oklahoma (6-4, 295)
4    Washington taterskins             T Russell Okung, Oklahoma State (6-5, 307)
5    Kansas City Chiefs             T Bryan Bulaga, Iowa (6-5, 314)
6    Seattle Seahawks             T Trent Williams, Oklahoma (6-5, 315)
7    Cleveland Browns             S Eric Berry, Tennessee (JR)
8    Oakland Raiders             OT Bruce Campbell, Maryland (JR)
9    Buffalo Bills             QB Jimmy Clausen, Notre Dame (JR)
10    Jacksonville Jaguars             DE Derrick Morgan, Georgia Tech (JR)
11    Denver Broncos (from Chicago) [R1 trade 1]             MLB Rolando McClain, Alabama (6-3, 254)
12    Miami Dolphins             DE Jason Pierre-Paul, South Florida (JR)
13    San Francisco 49ers             CB Joe Haden, Florida (5-11, 193)
14    Seattle Seahawks (from Denver) [R1 trade 2]             WR Demaryius Thomas, Georgia Tech
15    New York Giants             RB C.J. Spiller Clemson (5-11, 196)
16    Tennessee Titans             DE/OLB Sergio Kindle, Texas (6-4, 255)
17    San Francisco 49ers (from Carolina) [R1 trade 3]             G Mike Iupati, Idaho (6-5, 331)   
18    Pittsburgh Steelers             C Maurkice Pouncey, Florida (6-4, 304)
19    Atlanta Falcons             DE/OLB Brandon Graham, Michigan (6-1, 268)
20    Houston Texans             FS Earl Thomas, Texas (5-10, 208)   
21    Cincinnati Bengals             S Taylor Mays, USC (6-3, 230)
22    New England Patriots             DL Jared Odrick, Penn State (6-5, 304)
23    Green Bay Packers             OT Charles Brown USC
24    Philadelphia Eagles             CB Kyle Wilson, Boise State (5-10, 186)
25    Baltimore Ravens             TE Jermaine Gresham, Oklahoma (6-5, 261)
26    Arizona Cardinals             DT Brian Price, UCLA
27    Dallas Cowboys             WR Golden Tate, Notre Dame
28    San Diego Chargers             RB Ryan Mathews, Fresno State
29    New York Jets             Devin McCourty, CB, Rutgers (5-11, 193)
30    Minnesota Vikings             QB Tim Tebow, FL
31    Indianapolis Colts             LB Sean Weatherspoon, Missouri
32    New Orleans Saints             DE Everson Griffen, USC (6-3, 273)

Drunkmasterflex
1    St. Louis Rams- Sam Bradford         
2    Detroit Lions- Ndamokong Suh
3    Tampa Bay Buccaneers- Gerald McCoy         
4    Washington taterskins- Russel Okung         
5    Kansas City Chiefs- Trent Williams         
6    Seattle Seahawks- Brian Bulaga         
7    Cleveland Browns- Eric Berry         
8    Oakland Raiders- Jason Pierre-Paul         
9    Buffalo Bills- Charles Brown           
10    Jacksonville Jaguars- Derrick Morgan         
11    Denver Broncos (from Chicago) [R1 trade 1]- Maurkice Pouncey         
12    Miami Dolphins- Sergio Kindle         
13    San Francisco 49ers- Jimmy Clausen         
14    Seattle Seahawks (from Denver) [R1 trade 2]- CJ Spiller         
15    New York Giants- Rolando McClain         
16    Tennessee Titans- Brandon Graham         
17    San Francisco 49ers (from Carolina) [R1 trade 3]- Joe Haden         
18    Pittsburgh Steelers- Mike Iupati         
19    Atlanta Falcons- Sean Weatherspoon         
20    Houston Texans- Earl Thomas         
21    Cincinnati Bengals- Taylor Mays         
22    New England Patriots- Dez Bryant         
23    Green Bay Packers- Roger Saffold         
24    Philadelphia Eagles- Kyle Wilson         
25    Baltimore Ravens- Devin McCourty         
26    Arizona Cardinals- Anthony Davis         
27    Dallas Cowboys- Nate Allen         
28    San Diego Chargers- Jared Odrick         
29    New York Jets-Dan Williams         
30    Minnesota Vikings- Tim Tebow
31    Indianapolis Colts- Jon Ashomoah
32    New Orleans Saints- Daryl Washington         

SD

Phreak

1    St. Louis Rams  - Sam Bradford QB Oklahoma         
2    Detroit Lions - Ndamukong Suh DT Nebraska         
3    Tampa Bay Buccaneers - Gerald McCoy DT Oklahoma         
4    Washington taterskins - Russell Okung DT Oklahoma St         
5    Kansas City Chiefs - Bryan Bulaga OT Iowa         
6    Seattle Seahawks - CJ Spiller RB Clemson         
7    Cleveland Browns - Eric Berry S Tennessee         
8    Oakland Raiders - Trent Williams OT Oklahoma         
9    Buffalo Bills - Jimmy Claussen QB Notre Dame         
10    Jacksonville Jaguars - Derrick Morgan DE GaTech         
11    Denver Broncos (from Chicago) [R1 trade 1] - Rolando McClain LB Alabama         
12    Miami Dolphins - Dan Williams DT Tennessee         
13    San Francisco 49ers - Sergio Kindle DE Texas         
14    Seattle Seahawks (from Denver) [R1 trade 2] - Earl Thomas S Texas         
15    New York Giants - Sean Weatherspoon LB Missouri         
16    Tennessee Titans - Joe Haden CB Florida         
17    San Francisco 49ers (from Carolina) [R1 trade 3] - Mike Iupati OG Idaho         
18    Pittsburgh Steelers - Kyle Wilson CB Boise St         
19    Atlanta Falcons - Jason Pierre-Paul DE South Florida         
20    Houston Texans - Ryan Matthews RB Fresno State         
21    Cincinnati Bengals - Jermaine Gresham TE Oklahoma         
22    New England Patriots - Jared Odrick DE Penn St         
23    Green Bay Packers - Devin McCourty CB Rutgers         
24    Philadelphia Eagles - Maurkice Pouncey C Florida         
25    Baltimore Ravens - Rob Gronkowski TE Arizona         
26    Arizona Cardinals - Darryl Washington LB TCU
27    Dallas Cowboys - Dez Bryant WR Oklahoma St         
28    San Diego Chargers - Jonathon Dwyer RB GaTech         
29    New York Jets - Terence Cody NT Alabama         
30    Minnesota Vikings - Kareem Jackson CB Alabama         
31    Indianapolis Colts - Anthony Davis OT Rutgers         
32    New Orleans Saints - Brian Price DT UCLA         

SD
1    St. Louis Rams   - Sam Bradford
2    Detroit Lions - Ndamukong Suh       
3    Tampa Bay Buccaneers -  Gerald McCoy     
4    Washington taterskins  - Eric Berry     
5    Kansas City Chiefs  - Trent Williams     
6    Seattle Seahawks  - Russell Okung     
7    Cleveland Browns  - Earl Thomas       
8    Oakland Raiders - Bruce Campbell         
9    Buffalo Bills  - Bryan Baluga
10    Jacksonville Jaguars  -  Jimmy Claussen
11    Denver Broncos (from Chicago) [R1 trade 1]   - Dez Bryant       
12    Miami Dolphins   Trade with Eagles - Eagles select Derrick Morgan     
13    San Francisco 49ers  -  Jason Pierre-Paul
14    Seattle Seahawks (from Denver) [R1 trade 2]   CJ Spiller
15    New York Giants   Rolando McClain     
16    Tennessee Titans  Brandon Graham   
17    San Francisco 49ers (from Carolina) [R1 trade 3] Anthony Davis
18    Pittsburgh Steelers Mike Iupati       
19    Atlanta Falcons Brandon Graham       
20    Houston Texans   Joe Haden     
21    Cincinnati Bengals Jermaine Gresham       
22    New England Patriots Sean Weatherspoon       
23    Green Bay Packers  Maurkice Pouncey       
24    Philadelphia Eagles  Trade with Miami, Miami selects  Terrence Cody
25    Baltimore Ravens  Demariyus Thomas       
26    Arizona Cardinals Sergio Kindle       
27    Dallas Cowboys Charles Brown       
28    San Diego Chargers  Ryan Mathews       
29    New York Jets  Jared Odrick       
30    Minnesota Vikings Kyle Wilson       
31    Indianapolis Colts   Rodger Saffold       
32    New Orleans Saints Brian Price

Diomedes

There is considerable overlap between the intelligence of the smartest bears and the dumbest tourists." - Yosemite Park Ranger

SD

Quote from: SD on April 22, 2010, 06:09:12 PM
Dio

1    St. Louis Rams             QB Sam Bradford, Oklahoma (6-4, 236)
2    Detroit Lions             DT Ndamukong Suh, Nebraska (6-4, 307)
3    Tampa Bay Buccaneers             DT Gerald McCoy, Oklahoma (6-4, 295)

4    Washington taterskins             T Russell Okung, Oklahoma State (6-5, 307)
5    Kansas City Chiefs             T Bryan Bulaga, Iowa (6-5, 314)
6    Seattle Seahawks             T Trent Williams, Oklahoma (6-5, 315)
7    Cleveland Browns             S Eric Berry, Tennessee (JR)
8    Oakland Raiders             OT Bruce Campbell, Maryland (JR)
9    Buffalo Bills             QB Jimmy Clausen, Notre Dame (JR)
10    Jacksonville Jaguars             DE Derrick Morgan, Georgia Tech (JR)
11    Denver Broncos (from Chicago) [R1 trade 1]             MLB Rolando McClain, Alabama (6-3, 254)
12    Miami Dolphins             DE Jason Pierre-Paul, South Florida (JR)
13    San Francisco 49ers             CB Joe Haden, Florida (5-11, 193)
14    Seattle Seahawks (from Denver) [R1 trade 2]             WR Demaryius Thomas, Georgia Tech
15    New York Giants             RB C.J. Spiller Clemson (5-11, 196)
16    Tennessee Titans             DE/OLB Sergio Kindle, Texas (6-4, 255)
17    San Francisco 49ers (from Carolina) [R1 trade 3]             G Mike Iupati, Idaho (6-5, 331)    
18    Pittsburgh Steelers             C Maurkice Pouncey, Florida (6-4, 304)
19    Atlanta Falcons             DE/OLB Brandon Graham, Michigan (6-1, 268)
20    Houston Texans             FS Earl Thomas, Texas (5-10, 208)  
21    Cincinnati Bengals             S Taylor Mays, USC (6-3, 230)
22    New England Patriots             DL Jared Odrick, Penn State (6-5, 304)
23    Green Bay Packers             OT Charles Brown USC
24    Philadelphia Eagles             CB Kyle Wilson, Boise State (5-10, 186)
25    Baltimore Ravens             TE Jermaine Gresham, Oklahoma (6-5, 261)
26    Arizona Cardinals             DT Brian Price, UCLA
27    Dallas Cowboys             WR Golden Tate, Notre Dame
28    San Diego Chargers             RB Ryan Mathews, Fresno State
29    New York Jets             Devin McCourty, CB, Rutgers (5-11, 193)
30    Minnesota Vikings             QB Tim Tebow, FL
31    Indianapolis Colts             LB Sean Weatherspoon, Missouri
32    New Orleans Saints             DE Everson Griffen, USC (6-3, 273)

Drunkmasterflex
1    St. Louis Rams- Sam Bradford        
2    Detroit Lions- Ndamokong Suh
3    Tampa Bay Buccaneers- Gerald McCoy  
       
4    Washington taterskins- Russel Okung        
5    Kansas City Chiefs- Trent Williams        
6    Seattle Seahawks- Brian Bulaga        
7    Cleveland Browns- Eric Berry        
8    Oakland Raiders- Jason Pierre-Paul        
9    Buffalo Bills- Charles Brown          
10    Jacksonville Jaguars- Derrick Morgan        
11    Denver Broncos (from Chicago) [R1 trade 1]- Maurkice Pouncey        
12    Miami Dolphins- Sergio Kindle        
13    San Francisco 49ers- Jimmy Clausen        
14    Seattle Seahawks (from Denver) [R1 trade 2]- CJ Spiller        
15    New York Giants- Rolando McClain        
16    Tennessee Titans- Brandon Graham        
17    San Francisco 49ers (from Carolina) [R1 trade 3]- Joe Haden        
18    Pittsburgh Steelers- Mike Iupati        
19    Atlanta Falcons- Sean Weatherspoon        
20    Houston Texans- Earl Thomas        
21    Cincinnati Bengals- Taylor Mays        
22    New England Patriots- Dez Bryant        
23    Green Bay Packers- Roger Saffold        
24    Philadelphia Eagles- Kyle Wilson        
25    Baltimore Ravens- Devin McCourty        
26    Arizona Cardinals- Anthony Davis        
27    Dallas Cowboys- Nate Allen        
28    San Diego Chargers- Jared Odrick          
29    New York Jets-Dan Williams        
30    Minnesota Vikings- Tim Tebow
31    Indianapolis Colts- Jon Ashomoah
32    New Orleans Saints- Daryl Washington        


SD

Quote from: SD on April 22, 2010, 06:10:30 PM
Phreak

1    St. Louis Rams  - Sam Bradford QB Oklahoma         
2    Detroit Lions - Ndamukong Suh DT Nebraska         
3    Tampa Bay Buccaneers - Gerald McCoy DT Oklahoma 
       
4    Washington taterskins - Russell Okung DT Oklahoma St         
5    Kansas City Chiefs - Bryan Bulaga OT Iowa         
6    Seattle Seahawks - CJ Spiller RB Clemson         
7    Cleveland Browns - Eric Berry S Tennessee         
8    Oakland Raiders - Trent Williams OT Oklahoma         
9    Buffalo Bills - Jimmy Claussen QB Notre Dame         
10    Jacksonville Jaguars - Derrick Morgan DE GaTech         
11    Denver Broncos (from Chicago) [R1 trade 1] - Rolando McClain LB Alabama         
12    Miami Dolphins - Dan Williams DT Tennessee         
13    San Francisco 49ers - Sergio Kindle DE Texas         
14    Seattle Seahawks (from Denver) [R1 trade 2] - Earl Thomas S Texas         
15    New York Giants - Sean Weatherspoon LB Missouri         
16    Tennessee Titans - Joe Haden CB Florida         
17    San Francisco 49ers (from Carolina) [R1 trade 3] - Mike Iupati OG Idaho         
18    Pittsburgh Steelers - Kyle Wilson CB Boise St         
19    Atlanta Falcons - Jason Pierre-Paul DE South Florida         
20    Houston Texans - Ryan Matthews RB Fresno State         
21    Cincinnati Bengals - Jermaine Gresham TE Oklahoma         
22    New England Patriots - Jared Odrick DE Penn St         
23    Green Bay Packers - Devin McCourty CB Rutgers         
24    Philadelphia Eagles - Maurkice Pouncey C Florida         
25    Baltimore Ravens - Rob Gronkowski TE Arizona         
26    Arizona Cardinals - Darryl Washington LB TCU
27    Dallas Cowboys - Dez Bryant WR Oklahoma St         
28    San Diego Chargers - Jonathon Dwyer RB GaTech         
29    New York Jets - Terence Cody NT Alabama         
30    Minnesota Vikings - Kareem Jackson CB Alabama         
31    Indianapolis Colts - Anthony Davis OT Rutgers         
32    New Orleans Saints - Brian Price DT UCLA         

SD
1    St. Louis Rams   - Sam Bradford
2    Detroit Lions - Ndamukong Suh       
3    Tampa Bay Buccaneers -  Gerald McCoy
     
4    Washington taterskins  - Eric Berry     
5    Kansas City Chiefs  - Trent Williams     
6    Seattle Seahawks  - Russell Okung     
7    Cleveland Browns  - Earl Thomas       
8    Oakland Raiders - Bruce Campbell         
9    Buffalo Bills  - Bryan Baluga
10    Jacksonville Jaguars  -  Jimmy Claussen
11    Denver Broncos (from Chicago) [R1 trade 1]   - Dez Bryant       
12    Miami Dolphins   Trade with Eagles - Eagles select Derrick Morgan     
13    San Francisco 49ers  -  Jason Pierre-Paul
14    Seattle Seahawks (from Denver) [R1 trade 2]   CJ Spiller
15    New York Giants   Rolando McClain     
16    Tennessee Titans  Brandon Graham   
17    San Francisco 49ers (from Carolina) [R1 trade 3] Anthony Davis
18    Pittsburgh Steelers Mike Iupati       
19    Atlanta Falcons Brandon Graham       
20    Houston Texans   Joe Haden     
21    Cincinnati Bengals Jermaine Gresham       
22    New England Patriots Sean Weatherspoon       
23    Green Bay Packers  Maurkice Pouncey       
24    Philadelphia Eagles  Trade with Miami, Miami selects  Terrence Cody
25    Baltimore Ravens  Demariyus Thomas       
26    Arizona Cardinals Sergio Kindle       
27    Dallas Cowboys Charles Brown       
28    San Diego Chargers  Ryan Mathews        
29    New York Jets  Jared Odrick       
30    Minnesota Vikings Kyle Wilson       
31    Indianapolis Colts   Rodger Saffold       
32    New Orleans Saints Brian Price

SD

Phreak 65
SD 60
DMF 45/Dio 45


Double check to make sure I didn't miss anyone, but it looks like Phreak is the winner.

PhillyPhreak54

Should I be pumped about winning this 4 man contest?

Way to submit guesses, jerks. 4 people....you all suck for not participating

MDS

Zero hour, Michael. It's the end of the line. I'm the firstborn. I'm sick of playing second fiddle. I'm always third in line for everything. I'm tired of finishing fourth. Being the fifth wheel. There are six things I'm mad about, and I'm taking over.

Diomedes

I should get some points for the Chargers pick
There is considerable overlap between the intelligence of the smartest bears and the dumbest tourists." - Yosemite Park Ranger

SD


PoopyfaceMcGee

Sorry, I'm a little late.  Here are my picks.  FINGERS CROSSED!

1(1)   St. Louis Rams   Sam Bradford   QB   Oklahoma
2(2)   Detroit Lions   Ndamukong Suh   DT   Nebraska
3(3)   Tampa Bay Buccaneers   Gerald McCoy   DT   Oklahoma
4(4)   Washington taterskins   Trent Williams   OT   Oklahoma
5(5)   Kansas City Chiefs   Eric Berry   S   Tennessee
6(6)   Seattle Seahawks   Russell Okung   OT   Oklahoma State
7(7)   Cleveland Browns   Joe Haden   CB   Florida
8(8)   Oakland Raiders   Rolando McClain   ILB   Alabama
9(9)   Buffalo Bills   C.J. Spiller   RB   Clemson
10(10)   Jacksonville Jaguars   Tyson Alualu   DT   California
11(11)   San Francisco 49ers (from Chicago through Denver)   Anthony Davis   OT   Rutgers
12(12)   San Diego Chargers (from Miami)   Ryan Mathews   RB   Fresno State
13(13)   Philadelphia Eagles (from San Francisco through Denver)   Earl Thomas   S   Texas
14(14)   Seattle Seahawks (from Denver)   Brandon Graham   OLB   Michigan
15(15)   NY Giants   Jason Pierre-Paul   DE   South Florida
16(16)   Tennessee Titans   Derrick Morgan   DE   Georgia Tech
17(17)   San Francisco 49ers (from Carolina)   Mike Iupati   OG   Idaho
18(18)   Pittsburgh Steelers   Maurkice Pouncey   OC   Florida
19(19)   Atlanta Falcons   Sean Weatherspoon   OLB   Missouri
20(20)   Houston Texans   Kareem Jackson   CB   Alabama
21(21)   Cincinnati Bengals   Jermaine Gresham   TE   Oklahoma
22(22)   Denver Broncos (from New England)   Demaryius Thomas   WR   Georgia Tech
23(23)   Green Bay Packers   Bryan Bulaga   OT   Iowa
24(24)   Dallas Cowboys (from Philadelphia through Denver and New England)   Dez Bryant   WR   Oklahoma State
25(25)   Denver Broncos (from Baltimore)   Tim Tebow   QB   Florida
26(26)   Arizona Cardinals   Dan Williams   DT   Tennessee
27(27)   New England Patriots (from Dallas)   Devin McCourty   CB   Rutgers
28(28)   Miami Dolphins (from San Diego)   Jared Odrick   DT   Penn State
29(29)   NY Jets   Kyle Wilson   CB   Boise State
30(30)   Detroit Lions (from Minnesota)   Jahvid Best   RB   California
31(31)   Indianapolis Colts   Jerry Hughes   OLB   TCU
32(32)   New Orleans Saints   Patrick Robinson   CB   Florida State

rjs246

Is rjs gonna have to choke a bitch?

Let them eat bootstraps.