Phillies Offseason Thread

[Munson]

They should break out them butta joints, hats and all, at some point this season.

Also, this sounds good..

The Phillies have made good progress in negotiations with Hamels and a signing could happen in the not-too-distant future, CSNPhilly.com reports.

A person with knowledge of the situation says the Phillies know Hamels, who is a free agent after this year, will cost $20 million or more per season and are prepared to pay it. The length of the deal remains the sticking point as the Phillies prefer a four-year deal while Hamels wants more.

[Geowhizzer]

Hamels is 27 and very little injury history (broken arm in HS I believe is the only "major" one).  If he wants five, give him five.

[Sgt PSN]

Considering the fairly dramatic change with Dodgers ownership today, if the Phils want to keep him around long term, they better farging lock him up pronto.  Because the Dodgers just got some pretty deep farging pockets and they're going to look to make a huge splash next year in free agency.  If they don't sign him soon, you can bet your ass that he'll be Dodger in 2013.

[Munson]

My guess is the years are just being used in an attempt to get his AAV down. we'll give you 21.5 per for 4 years, but hey if you're okay with only 20 per we'll give you 5 or 6.

[ice grillin you]

Hamels is 27 and very little injury history (broken arm in HS I believe is the only "major" one).  If he wants five, give him five.

his back is a ticking time bomb...and the phillies know the health of it better than anyone...this is probably the reason why they havent resigned him as of yet...they have the money

[PoopyfaceMcGee]

Since when has this Phillies front office been overly concerned with paying the (barely) walking dead? Give Hamels 12 years for all I care - it will be money better spent than anything they're currently paying for Polanco, Howard, or Utley.

[SunMo]

i have to laugh at everyone worried about the Dodgers all of the sudden.  Cole has already said he doesn't want to play on the West Coast because the fans suck there.

be worried about Boston, New York, Texas

i'm not worried at all because he wants to be here and the phillies want him here.  it will get done before the ASB

[ice grillin you]

Since when has this Phillies front office been overly concerned with paying the (barely) walking dead? Give Hamels 12 years for all I care - it will be money better spent than anything they're currently paying for Polanco, Howard, or Utley.

choke and grit deals were handed out before the players got hurt....my guess is that they are willing to gamble on heidis back for three years but not more...doesnt mean that wont change in the end...but i guarantee so far what the phillies have been trying to do is offer 3-75 and tell cole that he will then still only be at the age that phifer got 120 mil...

so the player gets two monster deals and the phils protect themselves short term while knowing that theyd still have as good or better shot than anyone of signing him in 2016 if they think its a good idea....

makes sense to me

[Munson]

Why are so worried about Hamels' back? His delivery?

[Don Ho]

be worried about Boston, New York, Texas

Absolutely.  This has Yankees and BoSox written all over it.

[SunMo]

if you were going to be worried about somebody, yes.

but don't be worried, he's gonna be back.

in fact, i think the deal is done and they are waiting for the season to start so they don't pay luxury tax

[SunMo]

Phillies are going to keep Pierre on the team and send Podsednik down


bad decision imo

[Eagles_Legendz]

pierre is useless

[Geowhizzer]

Phillies are going to keep Pierre on the team and send Podsednik down


bad decision imo

I agree.  My best guess is that they can keep Podsednik in the minors until the end of May but would have to cut Pierre loose tomorrow.  It gives them more time for evaluation on both players.

Seems to be Pierre's cooked, though.

[SD]

Phils traded Rizzotti to the Twins for cash considerations.

http://www.philly.com/philly/sports/phillies/Rizzotti_traded_to_Twins.html