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Title: Doug Pederson, Philadelphia Eagles Legend
Post by: MDS on January 14, 2016, 05:32:50 PM
per uncle les

(http://www.kcchiefs.com/assets/images/imported/KC/photos/0_NEW_991x340/2013/01-january/Pederson3.jpg)
Title: Re: Doug Pederson, Philadelphia Eagles "Coach"
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on January 14, 2016, 05:37:40 PM
BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

amazing job by Jeffrey and Howie

And by amazing I mean farged up
Title: Re: Doug Pederson, Philadelphia Eagles "Coach"
Post by: Sgt PSN on January 14, 2016, 05:42:13 PM
Totally bland hire. He's not even intriguing because he's such an unknown. But he's not Chip Kelly, so I'm not going to hate on him until he actually gives me reason to.

Go Doug!!
Title: Re: Doug Pederson, Philadelphia Eagles "Coach"
Post by: ice grillin you on January 14, 2016, 05:46:15 PM
how bad is the staff going to be under this cat...he has no experience and thus no ties to anyone or cache with anyone...so who fills out the all important coordinator positions and on down
Title: Re: Doug Pederson, Philadelphia Eagles "Coach"
Post by: Eagles_Legendz on January 14, 2016, 05:47:00 PM
F. U.  Jeff.
Title: Re: Doug Pederson, Philadelphia Eagles "Coach"
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on January 14, 2016, 05:47:26 PM
how bad is the staff going to be under this cat...he has no experience and thus no ties to anyone or cache with anyone...so who fills out the all important coordinator positions and on down

A farging train wreck
Title: Re: Doug Pederson, Philadelphia Eagles "Coach"
Post by: Sgt PSN on January 14, 2016, 05:48:05 PM
how bad is the staff going to be under this cat...he has no experience and thus no ties to anyone or cache with anyone...so who fills out the all important coordinator positions and on down

Get yo popcorn ready
Title: Re: Doug Pederson, Philadelphia Eagles "Coach"
Post by: smeags on January 14, 2016, 05:50:13 PM
I can't WAIT till I get my ticket invoice.
Title: Re: Doug Pederson, Philadelphia Eagles "Coach"
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on January 14, 2016, 05:54:22 PM
I can't WAIT till I get my ticket invoice.

shtein on it and mail it back c/o Howie Roseman
Title: Re: Doug Pederson, Philadelphia Eagles "Coach"
Post by: ice grillin you on January 14, 2016, 05:55:38 PM
anyone else feel like this was done today because all the other openings were going coughlin dissed them and chip gets hired

its like they had to do something PR wise and they did the only thing they could at this point
Title: Re: Doug Pederson, Philadelphia Eagles "Coach"
Post by: MDS on January 14, 2016, 05:57:18 PM
shurmur the oc
fajita, or whatever his name is, the dc

im sure bradford is dying to join this trainwreck
Title: Re: Doug Pederson, Philadelphia Eagles "Coach"
Post by: Rome on January 14, 2016, 05:58:26 PM
They called Uncle Tom and said we're going with someone who didn't serve in WWII.  Done.

They don't give a shtein where Kelly ends up as long as it isn't Philly.  Done.

Good luck to this farging guy.  I hope he finally wins us a Super Bowl and anyone who doesn't feel the same way can light themselves on fire.
Title: Re: Doug Pederson, Philadelphia Eagles "Coach"
Post by: AO1 on January 14, 2016, 06:00:00 PM
Personality wise Pederson just doesn't come off like a leader of men. Honestly I would have preferred Shurmer. They're both awful hires either way.
Title: Re: Doug Pederson, Philadelphia Eagles "Coach"
Post by: QB Eagles on January 14, 2016, 06:00:06 PM
anyone else feel like this was done today because all the other openings were going coughlin dissed them and chip gets hired

its like they had to do something PR wise and they did the only thing they could at this point

It was going to be obvious when they sat around doing nothing until Kansas City loses. Imagine the conversations with Shurmur... "yeah Pat, we'll get back to you on the job, we're still working hard going through all the applications here."
Title: Re: Doug Pederson, Philadelphia Eagles "Coach"
Post by: QB Eagles on January 14, 2016, 06:01:19 PM
im sure bradford is dying to join this trainwreck

it's basically the same team he started with
Title: Re: Doug Pederson, Philadelphia Eagles "Coach"
Post by: QB Eagles on January 14, 2016, 06:02:51 PM
per uncle les

(http://www.kcchiefs.com/assets/images/imported/KC/photos/0_NEW_991x340/2013/01-january/Pederson3.jpg)

An appropriate picture because they'll have to go back to kelly green to get the fans even halfway excited about this team.
Title: Re: Doug Pederson, Philadelphia Eagles "Coach"
Post by: ice grillin you on January 14, 2016, 06:03:01 PM
They called Uncle Tom and said we're going with someone who didn't serve in WWII.  Done.

They don't give a shtein where Kelly ends up as long as it isn't Philly.  Done.

Good luck to this farging guy.  I hope he finally wins us a Super Bowl and anyone who doesn't feel the same way can light themselves on fire.

LETS GET READY TO GRRRRRRRUMBLE!
Title: Re: Doug Pederson, Philadelphia Eagles "Coach"
Post by: Butchers Bill on January 14, 2016, 06:06:35 PM
Couldn't have been a more "meh" hire.

Anyone know the best QB coming out of HS this year cause we'll have a shot at him by his junior year.
Title: Re: Doug Pederson, Philadelphia Eagles "Coach"
Post by: ice grillin you on January 14, 2016, 06:07:42 PM
per uncle les

i dont know if there are any left but how many gooey little fishies is he pulling into a napkin right now
Title: Re: Doug Pederson, Philadelphia Eagles "Coach"
Post by: MDS on January 14, 2016, 06:13:06 PM
not gonna lie its a might impressive pull to beat the breaking news industrial complex nfln and espn have

Title: Re: Doug Pederson, Philadelphia Eagles "Coach"
Post by: Butchers Bill on January 14, 2016, 06:16:53 PM
At least we'll have Christ on our side...   >:D

"Pederson, 47, has served most recently as offensive coordinator during Reidís three seasons as head coach of the Chiefs.

Before that, he was Reidís quarterbacks coach with the Eagles for two years after starting his NFL coaching career in 2009 as an offensive quality control coach under Reid.

Pedersonís only other coaching job was head coach at Calvary Baptist Academy, a high school in Shreveport, La., from 2005 through 2008."
Title: Re: Doug Pederson, Philadelphia Eagles "Coach"
Post by: Sgt PSN on January 14, 2016, 06:19:00 PM
I can't wait to see how many morons start slamming him simply because he wasn't a very good NFL qb and was horrendous for the Eagles for like 9 games.

Not saying he's the next hoodie, but a lot of fans are probably still really jaded from his playing days for some stupid reason.
Title: Re: Doug Pederson, Philadelphia Eagles "Coach"
Post by: ice grillin you on January 14, 2016, 06:21:47 PM
not gonna lie its a might impressive pull to beat the breaking news industrial complex nfln and espn have

he doesnt even care about that....he wants to beat the locals guys more than anything in the world

whats hilarious is literally like two hrs ago he was complaining about how awful the eagles media machine is and that they hadnt texted him back in two weeks...doesnt mean he got it from them today but the irony of being the one who got this is great
Title: Re: Doug Pederson, Philadelphia Eagles "Coach"
Post by: Don Ho on January 14, 2016, 06:22:22 PM
im sure bradford is dying to join this trainwreck

it's basically the same team he started with

Exactly.  With Chip, without Chip, with goo goo eyes, without goo goo eyes, it's the same shtein.
Title: Re: Doug Pederson, Philadelphia Eagles "Coach"
Post by: AshishPatel81 on January 14, 2016, 06:22:26 PM
My positive spin:

It's not like the Eagles were going to contend next season anyway. Yes, even in the NFC East. So, if this hire bombs, we weren't really missing out on anything and will get a good draft pick out of it and maybe a franchise QB.

Oh, and if really turns out bad, Lurie will save his own ass and sacrifice Roseman.

I honestly think this organization was headed for a few bad years anyway, I mentioned that in a previous topic. So, either he shocks the world and works out, and everyone is happy, or he's awful and it breeds the change everyone has been waiting for.

I hope  :-D
Title: Re: Doug Pederson, Philadelphia Eagles "Coach"
Post by: QB Eagles on January 14, 2016, 06:27:52 PM
I hope that years from now someone will mine this quote and make fun of me because of how successful the hire was, but right now I'm not sure I've ever been more embarrassed as an Eagles fan. They hired a guy with no experience who doesn't even call the plays, on a team with an offense that isn't even good.

This hire is some amateur hour shtein. Was he even a good high school coach? At least he seems like a nice guy.

I'm friends with some Chiefs fans and they aren't concerned in the slightest about him leaving.
Title: Re: Doug Pederson, Philadelphia Eagles "Coach"
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on January 14, 2016, 06:28:59 PM
I hope that years from now someone will mine this quote and make fun of me because of how successful the hire was, but right now I'm not sure I've ever been more embarrassed as an Eagles fan. They hired a guy with no experience who doesn't even call the plays, on a team with an offense that isn't even good.

This hire is some amateur hour shtein. Was he even a good high school coach? At least he seems like a nice guy.

I'm friends with some Chiefs fans and they aren't concerned in the slightest about him leaving.

Yep I'm with you

Hopefully this is dug up when he's successful but highly doubt it
Title: Re: Doug Pederson, Philadelphia Eagles "Coach"
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on January 14, 2016, 06:30:06 PM
My positive spin:

It's not like the Eagles were going to contend next season anyway. Yes, even in the NFC East. So, if this hire bombs, we weren't really missing out on anything and will get a good draft pick out of it and maybe a franchise QB.

Oh, and if really turns out bad, Lurie will save his own ass and sacrifice Roseman.

I honestly think this organization was headed for a few bad years anyway, I mentioned that in a previous topic. So, either he shocks the world and works out, and everyone is happy, or he's awful and it breeds the change everyone has been waiting for.

I hope  :-D

Howie is Smithers to Lurie's Mr Burns

I can't ever seeing either one of them splitting off from each other
Title: Re: Doug Pederson, Philadelphia Eagles "Coach"
Post by: AshishPatel81 on January 14, 2016, 06:39:55 PM
My positive spin:

It's not like the Eagles were going to contend next season anyway. Yes, even in the NFC East. So, if this hire bombs, we weren't really missing out on anything and will get a good draft pick out of it and maybe a franchise QB.

Oh, and if really turns out bad, Lurie will save his own ass and sacrifice Roseman.

I honestly think this organization was headed for a few bad years anyway, I mentioned that in a previous topic. So, either he shocks the world and works out, and everyone is happy, or he's awful and it breeds the change everyone has been waiting for.

I hope  :-D

Howie is Smithers to Lurie's Mr Burns

I can't ever seeing either one of them splitting off from each other

People said the same thing about Joe Banner, Andy Reid, etc. At the end of the day, Jeff Lurie is a businessman and if an entity in your business is eating away at your growth, then they will cut away from it eventually. They always do, they always will. At the end of the day, they will always sacrifice another to save themselves. Unless you're the Bengals I guess.
Title: Re: Doug Pederson, Philadelphia Eagles "Coach"
Post by: Sgt PSN on January 14, 2016, 06:42:34 PM
My positive spin:

It's not like the Eagles were going to contend next season anyway. Yes, even in the NFC East. So, if this hire bombs, we weren't really missing out on anything and will get a good draft pick out of it and maybe a franchise QB.

Oh, and if really turns out bad, Lurie will save his own ass and sacrifice Roseman.

I honestly think this organization was headed for a few bad years anyway, I mentioned that in a previous topic. So, either he shocks the world and works out, and everyone is happy, or he's awful and it breeds the change everyone has been waiting for.

I hope  :-D

Howie is Smithers to Lurie's Mr Burns

I can't ever seeing either one of them splitting off from each other

Banner and Lurie go back before their nuts drop, and Lurie sent him packing. He won't hesitate to pull the plug on Howie.

Like I've been saying, the next 2 years are Howie's chance to prove himself. I guess he could be gone after 1 season, but it would have to be a pretty epic disaster....like all 2016 draft picks getting Marcus Smith type playing time and the team winning 1 game.
Title: Re: Doug Pederson, Philadelphia Eagles "Coach"
Post by: Rome on January 14, 2016, 06:58:37 PM
Nice visual, jackass.

:puke
Title: Re: Doug Pederson, Philadelphia Eagles "Coach"
Post by: Rome on January 14, 2016, 07:02:08 PM
Oh and the one redeeming thing about this pick (other than it making all of you miserable) is the fact that Phreak hates it, and considering he always loves everything these incompetent morons do, that has to give you a smidgen of hope, right?
Title: Re: Doug Pederson, Philadelphia Eagles "Coach"
Post by: Sgt PSN on January 14, 2016, 09:46:56 PM
What's probably the most frustrating with this is that other than Gase, the Eagles didn't interview any of the top candidates.

McDermott
Jackson
McDaniels

Regardless of what you think about any of them, they were/are 3 of the top candidates. Didn't talk to a single one of them. And why make him the offer right now?  No one else is banging on his door, so it's not like you've got to worry about another team stealing him. Why not see how the Pats and Cats do this weekend? 

Whatevs.  Lurie misses Andy, wants to recapture that so close to a Super Bowl but not quite there magic I guess.
Title: Re: Doug Pederson, Philadelphia Eagles "Coach"
Post by: hbionic on January 14, 2016, 09:48:58 PM
Super Bowl bound bitches.

All-in motherfargers!
Title: Re: Doug Pederson, Philadelphia Eagles "Coach"
Post by: ice grillin you on January 14, 2016, 09:51:31 PM
Super Bowl bound bitches.

All-in motherfargers!

go rams go?
Title: Re: Doug Pederson, Philadelphia Eagles "Coach"
Post by: phattymatty on January 14, 2016, 10:13:11 PM
wow this really happened?

I was fine with Duce being coach so I am fine with this. I hated Andy when we hired him too.

Also hated him the last 5 years also but whatever.
Title: Re: Doug Pederson, Philadelphia Eagles "Coach"
Post by: Tomahawk on January 14, 2016, 10:22:15 PM
I also hate him. Also I thought Pederson was black, but I was thinking of Rodney Peete which also makes me hate Pederson more. We should hire Peete so they also show Holly Robinson which would make me binge watch 21 Jump Street to see more of her fine ass.
Title: Re: Doug Pederson, Philadelphia Eagles "Coach"
Post by: phattymatty on January 14, 2016, 10:23:22 PM
racist
Title: Re: Doug Pederson, Philadelphia Eagles "Coach"
Post by: ice grillin you on January 14, 2016, 10:38:18 PM
(https://scontent.fash1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xfp1/v/t1.0-9/12573754_10206777055957462_3475881779629359189_n.jpg?oh=0910f3c09f673f9cac5b3f16aa3d3af7&oe=5736BE30)
Title: Re: Doug Pederson, Philadelphia Eagles "Coach"
Post by: Rome on January 15, 2016, 05:42:31 AM
One thing you can say about Pederson... at least he's not morbidly obese like the last two HC's they've had.
Title: Re: Doug Pederson, Philadelphia Eagles "Coach"
Post by: smeags on January 15, 2016, 07:53:53 AM
So, now that everyone's had a chance to sleep on this ... We all on board ? Well ?

Go team ?


Title: Re: Doug Pederson, Philadelphia Eagles "Coach"
Post by: Susquehanna Birder on January 15, 2016, 08:14:28 AM
I'm not totally down on the move, but I'm not totally hating it, either. I'll take the wait and see approach, hoping that all the pieces fall in place to build something greater than the sum of the parts.
Title: Re: Doug Pederson, Philadelphia Eagles "Coach"
Post by: smeags on January 15, 2016, 08:21:23 AM
That's what I'm trying to do as well but the cynical philly fan in me keeps screaming otherwise.
Title: Re: Doug Pederson, Philadelphia Eagles "Coach"
Post by: AO1 on January 15, 2016, 08:33:07 AM
I say it's an awful hire and would have just gone with Shurmer who's equally awful, but I'll give Pederson a chance before I rip him. My big problem is he just doesn't come off as a leader of men. I think he's the polar opposite of Chip where he relates to players, and that's fine for an assistant coach, but head coaches need to know how to lead.
Title: Re: Doug Pederson, Philadelphia Eagles "Coach"
Post by: hunt on January 15, 2016, 08:53:27 AM
he'll come out and wow everyone during his intro press conference...then all the "leader of men" rhetoric will go away.
Title: Re: Doug Pederson, Philadelphia Eagles "Coach"
Post by: Susquehanna Birder on January 15, 2016, 09:01:01 AM
I do suspect that one big reason that he was hired was that he will just shut up and take whatever Howie gives him.

(https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/57/c9/cc/57c9cc4b31e7f85cb43b0283d617ed86.jpg)

But I hope he does better than that.

Title: Re: Doug Pederson, Philadelphia Eagles "Coach"
Post by: smeags on January 15, 2016, 09:11:58 AM
Ok, legit lol there.
Title: Re: Doug Pederson, Philadelphia Eagles "Coach"
Post by: ice grillin you on January 15, 2016, 09:22:55 AM
for the people like sus and romey and whoever else that say they are going to wait and see.....we ALL are going to wait and see as we have no other choice...your opinion on this or any move they make has nothing to do with waiting and seeing what happens...they are not mutually exclusive things

this move can and does farging blow and ill wait and see what happens
Title: Re: Doug Pederson, Philadelphia Eagles "Coach"
Post by: rjs246 on January 15, 2016, 09:39:56 AM
Couple of thoughts:

1. BOOOOOOOO
2. This is obviously Howie's team to put together now and a trial run for a nobody coach. Ownership seems to be acknowledging that no one wants to coach for them right now and they maybe feel like they made a mistake in removing Howie's PP responsibilities, so they're swallowing a season or two to rebuild and go for real coach in a few years. I mean, it's going to suck donkey balls for a few years but in Hinkie we trust.
Title: Re: Doug Pederson, Philadelphia Eagles "Coach"
Post by: Rome on January 15, 2016, 09:42:17 AM
You don't know if it does or doesn't suck.  No one does.  That's the point.  You're prejudging based on your own bias.   You do that a lot, IGY.  You're certainly entitled to think that way but I'd rather wait and see and give this guy a chance. 
Title: Re: Doug Pederson, Philadelphia Eagles "Coach"
Post by: smeags on January 15, 2016, 09:45:31 AM
Superfan lecture in 3...2...1
Title: Re: Doug Pederson, Philadelphia Eagles "Coach"
Post by: ice grillin you on January 15, 2016, 10:26:09 AM
wait im confused....so you cant have an opinion on anything a sports team does?

draft a player....shut up and see how it turns out...

trade for a player....zip it we dont want to judge this thing for a few years...

hire a college coach with no nfl expereince...nope shut it down....lets see it run its course before we speak anything on it

since ive never heard of this rule does it only apply to negative opinions or are you allowed to say that a team made a good move

like if they had gotten gase would i have been allowed to say this is a good thing?

school me
Title: Re: Doug Pederson, Philadelphia Eagles "Coach"
Post by: phattymatty on January 15, 2016, 10:32:16 AM
like an old out of shape jim from the office.

(http://www.csnphilly.com/sites/csnphilly/files/doug-pederson-evster1.png)
Title: Re: Doug Pederson, Philadelphia Eagles "Coach"
Post by: QB Eagles on January 15, 2016, 10:51:10 AM
Should we wait until he's hired to start the "Fire Doug Pederson" thread?
Title: Re: Doug Pederson, Philadelphia Eagles "Coach"
Post by: ice grillin you on January 15, 2016, 10:57:12 AM
thats probably fair
Title: Re: Doug Pederson, Philadelphia Eagles "Coach"
Post by: smeags on January 15, 2016, 11:03:17 AM
Should just start a point and laugh at the eagles thread.
Title: Re: Doug Pederson, Philadelphia Eagles "Coach"
Post by: rjs246 on January 15, 2016, 11:05:12 AM
like an old out of shape jim from the office.

(http://www.csnphilly.com/sites/csnphilly/files/doug-pederson-evster1.png)

Looks like every single schlubby 40-something dude in america. I work with at least seven guys who look exactly like this. They're married and they have kids and a mortgage and they stopped giving a farg about how they look about a decade ago. This picture is how I envision everyone on this board at their annual christmas parties.
Title: Re: Doug Pederson, Philadelphia Eagles "Coach"
Post by: rjs246 on January 15, 2016, 11:05:30 AM
Should just start a point and laugh at the eagles thread.

This whole board is a point and laugh at the eagles thread.
Title: Re: Doug Pederson, Philadelphia Eagles "Coach"
Post by: smeags on January 15, 2016, 11:09:10 AM
Valid point.
Title: Re: Doug Pederson, Philadelphia Eagles "Coach"
Post by: phattymatty on January 15, 2016, 11:21:54 AM
i'm in way worse shape than doug at the moment.
Title: Re: Doug Pederson, Philadelphia Eagles "Coach"
Post by: smeags on January 15, 2016, 11:23:02 AM
Who here isn't ?
Title: Re: Doug Pederson, Philadelphia Eagles "Coach"
Post by: ice grillin you on January 15, 2016, 11:57:56 AM
i'm in way worse shape than doug at the moment.

i have been for at least ten years
Title: Re: Doug Pederson, Philadelphia Eagles "Coach"
Post by: General_Failure on January 15, 2016, 12:08:13 PM
Doug needs to grow the mustache.
Title: Re: Doug Pederson, Philadelphia Eagles "Coach"
Post by: Susquehanna Birder on January 15, 2016, 01:06:38 PM
this move can and does farging blow and ill wait and see what happens

There ya go. There's nothing wrong with having an opinion, but I think that all of the speculation, complaining, and hand wringing right now is premature. I just don't know enough about the guy - and his coaching style - at this point. Nor do I have a view of the bigger picture from Lurie's standpoint. I want to see how all the pieces fall into place before I get too excited about it all.

But hey...I'm sure that either way, some bipolar types will eventually have their happy ITYS moment.
Title: Re: Doug Pederson, Philadelphia Eagles "Coach"
Post by: smeags on January 15, 2016, 01:12:46 PM
being the homer he is, I have to think jay has a Pederson jersey stashed in his closet that he wore for the first game in the reid era.
Title: Re: Doug Pederson, Philadelphia Eagles "Coach"
Post by: QB Eagles on January 15, 2016, 01:15:22 PM
Sometimes you can hire a blatantly unqualified person to do a job, and be pleasantly surprised when it turns out that they are a natural for that kind of work, and a great fit for your organization.

Sometimes you can hire an eminently qualified person to do a job and they can fail at it badly and have personality clashes with everyone.

That being said, before their first day on the job, do you feel better about the qualified hire or the unqualified one?
Title: Re: Doug Pederson, Philadelphia Eagles "Coach"
Post by: smeags on January 15, 2016, 01:27:53 PM
What has me down on the hire is  the fact that Pederson was like #4 on their depth chart of canidates and having to settle as result of a quagmire front office.
Title: Re: Doug Pederson, Philadelphia Eagles "Coach"
Post by: phattymatty on January 15, 2016, 01:35:11 PM
i'd like to see that list. can you forward to me please?
Title: Re: Doug Pederson, Philadelphia Eagles "Coach"
Post by: Rome on January 15, 2016, 01:35:34 PM
I've lost 26 pounds since Thanksgiving.  Back into my size 36 jeans. 

I'm still bitter and poor and retarded enough to cheer for this team and post here, though. 

Go Eagles!
Title: Re: Doug Pederson, Philadelphia Eagles "Coach"
Post by: Susquehanna Birder on January 15, 2016, 01:36:02 PM
What has me down on the hire is  the fact that Pederson was like #4 on their depth chart of canidates and having to settle as result of a quagmire front office.

Yeah, I get that. He's definitely the fall-back option, and I'm sure that's something he'll have to carry until (or if) he starts having some successes.
Title: Re: Doug Pederson, Philadelphia Eagles "Coach"
Post by: Don Ho on January 15, 2016, 02:32:22 PM
I've lost 26 pounds since Thanksgiving.  Back into my size 36 jeans. 

WTF?  Talk to me dude. 
Title: Re: Doug Pederson, Philadelphia Eagles "Coach"
Post by: smeags on January 15, 2016, 02:35:11 PM
I've lost 26 pounds since Thanksgiving.  Back into my size 36 jeans. 

WTF?  Talk to me dude.

Take it to PM please.  :paranoid
Title: Re: Doug Pederson, Philadelphia Eagles "Coach"
Post by: Don Ho on January 15, 2016, 02:37:41 PM
Rome - 26 lbs + 6 weeks >  birds HC search
Title: Re: Doug Pederson, Philadelphia Eagles "Coach"
Post by: smeags on January 15, 2016, 02:43:53 PM
Touche'
Title: Re: Doug Pederson, Philadelphia Eagles "Coach"
Post by: hbionic on January 15, 2016, 02:53:45 PM
Superfan lecture in 3...2...1

lmao
Title: Re: Doug Pederson, Philadelphia Eagles "Coach"
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on January 15, 2016, 04:40:09 PM
being the homer he is, I have to think jay has a Pederson jersey stashed in his closet that he wore for the first game in the reid era.

lol no shot

My brother had a Ty Detmer jersey...so we could get that and change the nameplate
Title: Re: Doug Pederson, Philadelphia Eagles "Coach"
Post by: phillycrew on January 16, 2016, 07:35:31 AM
What's probably the most frustrating with this is that other than Gase, the Eagles didn't interview any of the top candidates.

McDermott
Jackson
McDaniels

Regardless of what you think about any of them, they were/are 3 of the top candidates. Didn't talk to a single one of them. And why make him the offer right now?  No one else is banging on his door, so it's not like you've got to worry about another team stealing him. Why not see how the Pats and Cats do this weekend? 

Whatevs.  Lurie misses Andy, wants to recapture that so close to a Super Bowl but not quite there magic I guess.

Totally agree.  Any of those 3 would have been better options than Pedophile.  You just know CK is going to SF and is going to rip off a great run with Kapernick.  I would have rather kept CK for another year than this guy.
Title: Re: Doug Pederson, Philadelphia Eagles "Coach"
Post by: phillycrew on January 16, 2016, 07:38:02 AM
like an old out of shape jim from the office.

(http://www.csnphilly.com/sites/csnphilly/files/doug-pederson-evster1.png)

Looks like every single schlubby 40-something dude in america. I work with at least seven guys who look exactly like this. They're married and they have kids and a mortgage and they stopped giving a farg about how they look about a decade ago. This picture is how I envision everyone on this board at their annual christmas parties.

I do kinda resemble him and your remarks   :crazy
Title: Re: Doug Pederson, Philadelphia Eagles "Coach"
Post by: General_Failure on January 16, 2016, 11:52:24 AM
You just know CK is going to SF and is going to rip off a great run with Kapernick.

Look, there's saying dumb things because you're miserable, but let's not go crazy.
Title: Re: Doug Pederson, Philadelphia Eagles "Coach"
Post by: Don Ho on January 16, 2016, 11:41:52 PM
Chip ain't doing shtein anywhere.  Arians and Carroll are licking their chops thinking about facing Joe College twice a year.
Title: Re: Doug Pederson, Philadelphia Eagles "Coach"
Post by: Don Ho on January 16, 2016, 11:44:24 PM
Hearing Bed Wetter saying Dougie P ain't ready to be HC makes me root even harder for him.
Title: Re: Doug Pederson, Philadelphia Eagles "Coach"
Post by: QB Eagles on January 16, 2016, 11:47:42 PM
Bed Wetter saying Dougie P ain't ready to be HC

That's the first positive news about Pederson.
Title: Re: Doug Pederson, Philadelphia Eagles "Coach"
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on January 17, 2016, 12:04:03 AM
I'm so excited for the Pederson era

Back to lousy clock management and no urgency
Title: Re: Doug Pederson, Philadelphia Eagles "Coach"
Post by: General_Failure on January 17, 2016, 12:08:18 AM
I want Pederson's first decision to be to pull hard for them to keep Riley Cooper because the team lacks veteran leadership.
Title: Re: Doug Pederson, Philadelphia Eagles "Coach"
Post by: Sgt PSN on January 17, 2016, 12:11:43 AM
I guess the good thing about the Chiefs losing is that Pederson can get to work sooner. I'm not excited about this. I'm not even optimistic about it. But he's the guy and I have no reason to hate on him.

On the plus side though, he does have NFL experience as a player and coach. Any holdovers from Reid should at least be familiar with him.  90% chance this doesn't end well, but farg it....I'm rooting for the other 10.
Title: Re: Doug Pederson, Philadelphia Eagles "Coach"
Post by: Don Ho on January 17, 2016, 02:19:38 AM
90% of this rests on apathetic owner and pencil dick GM, 10% on Pederson. 
Title: Re: Doug Pederson, Philadelphia Eagles "Coach"
Post by: Geowhizzer on January 17, 2016, 09:29:41 AM
Meh, I wouldn't have been excited about any of them.  Pederson may as well be the schlep that does the job.  They're going to suck for the next several years anyway.
Title: Re: Doug Pederson, Philadelphia Eagles "Coach"
Post by: Sgt PSN on January 17, 2016, 09:54:19 AM
The more I think about it, the more I really feel bad for the guy.  It would be tough enough for him to win if he was hired by a rock solid organization with a competent GM and a quality roster. This guy gets Howie and his #1 QB is currently Mark Sanchez.

Farg the gold standard. This is more like the golden shower standard. Just pissing all over the city.
Title: Re: Doug Pederson, Philadelphia Eagles "Coach"
Post by: ice grillin you on January 17, 2016, 11:20:10 AM
for god sakes we need to let this play out
Title: Re: Doug Pederson, Philadelphia Eagles "Coach"
Post by: rjs246 on January 17, 2016, 12:24:22 PM
I'd like to hear more about you all and your schlubbiness.
Title: Re: Doug Pederson, Philadelphia Eagles "Coach"
Post by: Rome on January 17, 2016, 12:43:56 PM
Check your PM's... pix!
Title: Re: Doug Pederson, Philadelphia Eagles "Coach"
Post by: AshishPatel81 on January 17, 2016, 03:03:23 PM
I feel bad for Pederson too. If the Eagles trail by 2 TDs against a good opponent in their first home game he's going to get booed out of the stadium. People already hate the guy, they are going to be foaming at the mouth to trash him for anything and everything that goes wrong with the Eagles.
Title: Re: Doug Pederson, Philadelphia Eagles "Coach"
Post by: MDS on January 17, 2016, 03:04:32 PM
wants to hire frank reich as oc, according to humongous dickhead marcus hayes
Title: Re: Doug Pederson, Philadelphia Eagles "Coach"
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on January 17, 2016, 03:42:17 PM
And maybe Spags as DC

Title: Re: Doug Pederson, Philadelphia Eagles "Coach"
Post by: QB Eagles on January 17, 2016, 03:57:19 PM
Undlin staying DB coach. Will be assisted by everyone's favorite, Tim Hauck!
Title: Re: Doug Pederson, Philadelphia Eagles "Coach"
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on January 17, 2016, 04:00:18 PM
Recreating the Irvin getting carted off year in full now

Doug Brzezinski as OL coach?
Title: Re: Doug Pederson, Philadelphia Eagles "Coach"
Post by: General_Failure on January 17, 2016, 04:02:48 PM
Recreating the Irvin getting carted off year in full now

Doug Brzezinski as OL coach?

So all this is just leading up to Head Coach Donovan McNabb next year.
Title: Re: Doug Pederson, Philadelphia Eagles "Coach"
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on January 17, 2016, 04:18:42 PM
lol he'd get a DUI on the way to the stadium
Title: Re: Doug Pederson, Philadelphia Eagles "Coach"
Post by: Sgt PSN on January 17, 2016, 04:21:16 PM
Fifth will always love you.
Title: Re: Doug Pederson, Philadelphia Eagles "Coach"
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on January 17, 2016, 04:26:30 PM
Haha

He'd stop off at igys tailgate for some crack juice
Title: Re: Doug Pederson, Philadelphia Eagles "Coach"
Post by: ice grillin you on January 17, 2016, 11:05:27 PM
jags interviewing that douche jim schwartz for their dc position
Title: Re: Doug Pederson, Philadelphia Eagles "Coach"
Post by: smeags on January 18, 2016, 08:01:08 AM
So, do the eagles make the announcement today or keep everyone in suspense a little longer ?
Title: Re: Doug Pederson, Philadelphia Eagles "Coach"
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on January 18, 2016, 08:52:24 AM
Prob tomorrow

And hold up -  Jaws was a part of the process?!
Title: Re: Doug Pederson, Philadelphia Eagles "Coach"
Post by: smeags on January 18, 2016, 08:57:46 AM
Who wasn't is the real question.
Title: Re: Doug Pederson, Philadelphia Eagles "Coach"
Post by: hunt on January 18, 2016, 09:34:19 AM
kevin kolb has some nice things to say about pederson.   :paranoid 
Title: Re: Doug Pederson, Philadelphia Eagles "Coach"
Post by: smeags on January 18, 2016, 10:24:52 AM
He took time out from his wild boar hunting to do that ? Whoa
Title: Re: Doug Pederson, Philadelphia Eagles "Coach"
Post by: Sgt PSN on January 18, 2016, 01:17:38 PM
It's official now. 2 pm presser tomorrow.
Title: Re: Doug Pederson, Philadelphia Eagles "Coach"
Post by: QB Eagles on January 18, 2016, 01:35:47 PM
Well, here we go.

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CZBYlAOWkAAxNPP.jpg)
Title: Re: Doug Pederson, Philadelphia Eagles "Coach"
Post by: Rome on January 18, 2016, 03:20:37 PM
(http://prod.static.eagles.clubs.nfl.com/assets/images/pedersonphotogallery/dougpederson29.jpg)

Doug had a dream...
Title: Re: Doug Pederson, Philadelphia Eagles "Coach"
Post by: MDS on January 18, 2016, 03:26:15 PM
what a head of hair
Title: Re: Doug Pederson, Philadelphia Eagles "Coach"
Post by: Sgt PSN on January 18, 2016, 03:27:08 PM
I'm hoping that he decides to retain Shurmur as OC, if for no other reason that eliminates Childress and Reich from the job.  Not to mention that might make staying a more appealing option for Bradford.
Title: Re: Doug Pederson, Philadelphia Eagles "Coach"
Post by: ice grillin you on January 18, 2016, 03:28:57 PM
(http://prod.static.eagles.clubs.nfl.com/assets/images/pedersonphotogallery/dougpederson29.jpg)

Doug had a dream...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zP7ylXhFbiA
Title: Re: Doug Pederson, Philadelphia Eagles "Coach"
Post by: MDS on January 18, 2016, 03:29:15 PM
multiple people saying reich is the oc

this will be the eagles first reich
Title: Re: Doug Pederson, Philadelphia Eagles "Coach"
Post by: Sgt PSN on January 18, 2016, 03:33:57 PM
this will be the eagles first reich

#romefap
Title: Re: Doug Pederson, Philadelphia Eagles "Coach"
Post by: Geowhizzer on January 18, 2016, 03:55:07 PM
multiple people saying reich is the oc

this will be the eagles first reich

Charlemagne approves.

(http://www.amerika.org/wp-content/uploads/charlemagne.jpg)
Title: Re: Doug Pederson, Philadelphia Eagles "Coach"
Post by: Rome on January 18, 2016, 03:55:38 PM
legit lol
Title: Re: Doug Pederson, Philadelphia Eagles "Coach"
Post by: smeags on January 18, 2016, 04:01:58 PM
Let's be frank here, he's a safe choice.
Title: Re: Doug Pederson, Philadelphia Eagles "Coach"
Post by: MDS on January 18, 2016, 04:28:04 PM
channel 6 is saying the schwartz will be with you
Title: Re: Doug Pederson, Philadelphia Eagles "Coach"
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on January 18, 2016, 04:46:18 PM
(http://prod.static.eagles.clubs.nfl.com/assets/images/pedersonphotogallery/dougpederson29.jpg)

Doug had a dream...

Eagles head coach
Insurance salesman
pharmacy manager

You make the call.

And they're shielding mds' boy Howie...no show at the presser tomorrow
Title: Re: Doug Pederson, Philadelphia Eagles "Coach"
Post by: BigEd76 on January 18, 2016, 05:03:38 PM
channel 6 is saying the schwartz will be with you

Apody now saying Schwartz arrived in Philly
Title: Re: Doug Pederson, Philadelphia Eagles "Coach"
Post by: Rome on January 18, 2016, 05:06:42 PM
LeCharles Bentley is on his way to the Novacare as well.  Per Spadaro.
Title: Re: Doug Pederson, Philadelphia Eagles "Coach"
Post by: QB Eagles on January 18, 2016, 05:09:43 PM
LeCharles Bentley is on his way to the Novacare as well.  Per Spadaro.

It's only truth when they are AT novacare.
Title: Re: Doug Pederson, Philadelphia Eagles "Coach"
Post by: QB Eagles on January 18, 2016, 05:20:50 PM
Was Reich hired as OC because he was the only OC candidate with a less impressive resume than Doug's?
Title: Re: Doug Pederson, Philadelphia Eagles "Coach"
Post by: Eagles_Legendz on January 18, 2016, 05:24:36 PM
Offense run in SD would be a good one for Bradford's skill set if they go that route.  I don't hate Reich being here.
Title: Re: Doug Pederson, Philadelphia Eagles "Coach"
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on January 18, 2016, 05:40:00 PM
I won't believe it until John Clarke stalks him at the airport
Title: Re: Doug Pederson, Philadelphia Eagles "Coach"
Post by: MDS on January 18, 2016, 06:18:28 PM
Offense run in SD would be a good one for Bradford's skill set if they go that route.  I don't hate Reich being here.

i cant see bradford returning to the mess

houston serves him well. close to okc, throwing to hopkins, limited attention and pressure
Title: Re: Doug Pederson, Philadelphia Eagles "Coach"
Post by: BigEd76 on January 18, 2016, 06:30:58 PM
Greg Lewis, WR coach?
Title: Re: Doug Pederson, Philadelphia Eagles "Coach"
Post by: Rome on January 18, 2016, 06:34:08 PM
That's a joke, right?   Say yes.
Title: Re: Doug Pederson, Philadelphia Eagles "Coach"
Post by: MDS on January 18, 2016, 06:34:09 PM
so that fat dude who ferried chip around didnt run away with him to sf

(http://i0.wp.com/phillyinfluencer.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/01/schwartzphilly2.jpg?w=599)

ps that is 30th street station for all of you out there that arent from philly....which is most of you.
Title: Re: Doug Pederson, Philadelphia Eagles "Coach"
Post by: Don Ho on January 18, 2016, 06:42:25 PM
Eagles head coach
Insurance salesman
pharmacy manager

You make the call.

LOL!  It's all about the brief case.  Hopefully it's full of binders on the art of time management.
Title: Re: Doug Pederson, Philadelphia Eagles "Coach"
Post by: Don Ho on January 18, 2016, 06:45:10 PM
That's a joke, right?   Say yes.

So I may have just regurgitated for nothing?
Title: Re: Doug Pederson, Philadelphia Eagles "Coach"
Post by: QB Eagles on January 18, 2016, 06:48:04 PM
Ha, Eskin says that the Eagles blocked SF from talking to Stoutland, Undlin, and Fipp. farg off, Chip.
Title: Re: Doug Pederson, Philadelphia Eagles "Coach"
Post by: Don Ho on January 18, 2016, 06:51:05 PM
Offense run in SD would be a good one for Bradford's skill set if they go that route.  I don't hate Reich being here.

Same, no problem with Reich.  I'm with IGY, let this all playout.  Yes AR had the Favre thing going coming in and some championship heritage but 99% of us had no clue who he was.  Weak division that will be equally weak next season, this all my work out.

I do hope the first question at the presser is "WTF were you guys thinking in Foxboro on Saturday in the fourth quarter?"
Title: Re: Doug Pederson, Philadelphia Eagles "Coach"
Post by: BigEd76 on January 18, 2016, 06:52:10 PM
That's a joke, right?   Say yes.

 :-\

At least he coached WRs in four different places the last four years (and five-in-five if he comes here)
Title: Re: Doug Pederson, Philadelphia Eagles "Coach"
Post by: Don Ho on January 18, 2016, 06:52:46 PM
LeCharles Bentley is on his way to the Novacare as well.  Per Spadaro.

To replace Duce?
Title: Re: Doug Pederson, Philadelphia Eagles "Coach"
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on January 18, 2016, 07:03:43 PM
so that fat dude who ferried chip around didnt run away with him to sf

(http://i0.wp.com/phillyinfluencer.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/01/schwartzphilly2.jpg?w=599)

ps that is 30th street station for all of you out there that arent from philly....which is most of you.

He's been here since Butch retired

Step up your knowledge son
Title: Re: Doug Pederson, Philadelphia Eagles "Coach"
Post by: General_Failure on January 18, 2016, 07:43:01 PM
(http://prod.static.eagles.clubs.nfl.com/assets/images/pedersonphotogallery/dougpederson29.jpg)

Doug had a dream...

Eagles head coach
Insurance salesman
pharmacy manager

You make the call.

And they're shielding mds' boy Howie...no show at the presser tomorrow

This is the face of a man they make Lifetime Original movies about.
Title: Re: Doug Pederson, Philadelphia Eagles "Coach"
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on January 18, 2016, 09:42:22 PM
Watching the Chiefs slowly make their way down the field Saturday was both jarring in a flashback to Andy and a glimpse into the future.
Title: Re: Doug Pederson, Philadelphia Eagles "Coach"
Post by: hbionic on January 18, 2016, 09:59:44 PM
I think Pederson, having been a QB, would have more aggessive tendencies or deeply rooted philosophies about an offense than an Offensive lineman who is used to grinding things out as opposed to throwing a deep pass*

*I know more than IGY about football.
Title: Re: Doug Pederson, Philadelphia Eagles "Coach"
Post by: Sgt PSN on January 19, 2016, 01:04:53 AM
I'm not buying into the notion that Pederson picked up all of Andy's bad habits, and I'm not throwing too much blame about their lack of urgency on him either. Just like when Childress was here, he got none of the credit when the O played well and none of the blame when they farged up. Everyone knew that the offense was Andy's baby. Nothing changed in KC.
Title: Re: Doug Pederson, Philadelphia Eagles "Coach"
Post by: QB Eagles on January 19, 2016, 01:38:32 AM
I think Pederson, having been a QB, would have more aggessive tendencies or deeply rooted philosophies about an offense than an Offensive lineman who is used to grinding things out as opposed to throwing a deep pass*

Their OC is also going to be a former QB whose offense in San Diego was QB oriented.... to the tune of being very close to the top of the rankings in passing and very close to the bottom of the rankings in rushing. Of course they have Rivers, Allen, and Gates, and the Eagles don't. It's also widely assumed that McCoy was micromanaging that offense. So neither the HC nor the OC have much of a track record they can be graded on.
Title: Re: Doug Pederson, Philadelphia Eagles "Coach"
Post by: Susquehanna Birder on January 19, 2016, 08:31:25 AM
ps that is 30th street station for all of you out there that arent from philly....which is most of you.

He came into town on the train?
Title: Re: Doug Pederson, Philadelphia Eagles "Coach"
Post by: smeags on January 19, 2016, 08:38:18 AM
The eagles spare no expense
Title: Re: Doug Pederson, Philadelphia Eagles "Coach"
Post by: BigEd76 on January 19, 2016, 08:49:17 AM
ps that is 30th street station for all of you out there that arent from philly....which is most of you.

He came into town on the train?

Carried his own luggage too. GRIT
Title: Re: Doug Pederson, Philadelphia Eagles "Coach"
Post by: ice grillin you on January 19, 2016, 09:03:38 AM
an offense than an Offensive lineman who is used to grinding things out

pass first offenses still employ an offensive line

just because you played line has nothing to do with how you want to run your offense

andy was a quarterbacks coach before he was a head coach and he coached the ultimate gunslinger

by far the biggest criticism of andy while eagles coach was passing the ball too much and at the wrong times...."grinding things out' was basically a foreign concept to him
Title: Re: Doug Pederson, Philadelphia Eagles "Coach"
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on January 19, 2016, 09:18:45 AM
Eric Berry as a FA?!
Title: Re: Doug Pederson, Philadelphia Eagles "Coach"
Post by: BigEd76 on January 19, 2016, 12:07:17 PM
Miami hired Washburn as a senior defensive assistant for DL, so we don't have to worry about him coming back
Title: Re: Doug Pederson, Philadelphia Eagles "Coach"
Post by: Susquehanna Birder on January 19, 2016, 12:12:53 PM
But his scheme refuses to die.
Title: Re: Doug Pederson, Philadelphia Eagles "Coach"
Post by: ice grillin you on January 19, 2016, 12:29:07 PM
Miami hired Washburn as a senior defensive assistant for DL, so we don't have to worry about him coming back

washburn learned under scwartz for almost ten years so you might be getting the next best thing
Title: Re: Doug Pederson, Philadelphia Eagles "Coach"
Post by: Tomahawk on January 19, 2016, 12:35:15 PM
*I know more than IGY about football.

Who doesn't?
Title: Re: Doug Pederson, Philadelphia Eagles "Coach"
Post by: Sgt PSN on January 19, 2016, 12:46:31 PM
by far the biggest criticism of andy while eagles coach was passing the ball too much and at the wrong times...."grinding things out' was basically a foreign concept to him

Exactly. His overall play calling didn't drastically favor the pass...I think 60/40 was the worst he had in a season....but he usually hovered around 55/45 in favor of the pass, which is fairly well balanced. His problem was thinking that he's smarter than the guy on the opposite sideline and that throwing the ball in an obvious run situation (Thomas Tapeh in the flat) was going to catch the defense off guard. That might actually work if you tried it 1 out of 10 times, but Andy tried it like 9 out of 10 times.  So much that when he did call a run play in those situatioms, he actually was catching the defense off guard.
Title: Re: Doug Pederson, Philadelphia Eagles "Coach"
Post by: ice grillin you on January 19, 2016, 12:55:01 PM
he also would throw it 60+% of the time with leads

also for the first half of the bedwetters career he was much more of a running/scrambling qb so some of those ratios are slightly skewed by that
Title: Re: Doug Pederson, Philadelphia Eagles "Coach"
Post by: QB Eagles on January 19, 2016, 02:03:18 PM
Here's the presser if anyone's interested: https://livestream.com/accounts/8109350/events/2963279
Title: Re: Doug Pederson, Philadelphia Eagles "Coach"
Post by: Susquehanna Birder on January 19, 2016, 02:03:28 PM
The ratio was also skewed by the fact that he'd run during garbage time. Plus, the issue was when the run vs pass would be called, in a way that defenses could frequently predict. First down? Long pass attempt. Second and ten? Draw play. And so on.
Title: Re: Doug Pederson, Philadelphia Eagles "Coach"
Post by: Susquehanna Birder on January 19, 2016, 02:10:12 PM
Here's the presser if anyone's interested: https://livestream.com/accounts/8109350/events/2963279

Picking it up on the Eagles app. Still waiting to get past the repeating music and graphics...
Title: Re: Doug Pederson, Philadelphia Eagles "Coach"
Post by: ice grillin you on January 19, 2016, 02:20:21 PM
not sure if hes nervous or just his inexperience...maybe both

but he couldn't possibly sound less inspiring or less like a leader

lol he said "this organization has not won in quite some time"
Title: Re: Doug Pederson, Philadelphia Eagles "Coach"
Post by: ice grillin you on January 19, 2016, 02:21:59 PM
holy crap he can barely put together a competent sentence
Title: Re: Doug Pederson, Philadelphia Eagles "Coach"
Post by: ice grillin you on January 19, 2016, 02:24:47 PM
this is really uncomfortable and tough to listen to...I validly feel bad for him
Title: Re: Doug Pederson, Philadelphia Eagles "Coach"
Post by: QB Eagles on January 19, 2016, 02:25:11 PM
lol he's getting into that retarded long drive against the pats the other night
Title: Re: Doug Pederson, Philadelphia Eagles "Coach"
Post by: smeags on January 19, 2016, 02:29:14 PM
Just sounds nervous.
Title: Re: Doug Pederson, Philadelphia Eagles "Coach"
Post by: QB Eagles on January 19, 2016, 02:33:10 PM
part of what seems so unpolished is that he hasn't really learned how to dodge questions and spin answers to his advantage yet
Title: Re: Doug Pederson, Philadelphia Eagles "Coach"
Post by: Butchers Bill on January 19, 2016, 02:34:08 PM
I couldn't care less if he sounds like Forrest Gump.  Bottom line is we won't know what kind of coach he is until this time next year.
Title: Re: Doug Pederson, Philadelphia Eagles "Coach"
Post by: smeags on January 19, 2016, 02:35:31 PM
Exactly, he's just answering straight forward.

But don't worry jeffy is stepping in.
Title: Re: Doug Pederson, Philadelphia Eagles "Coach"
Post by: QB Eagles on January 19, 2016, 02:35:43 PM
I couldn't care less if he sounds like Forrest Gump.  Bottom line is we won't know what kind of coach he is until this time next year.

probably won't even know by then, if the personnel sucks
Title: Re: Doug Pederson, Philadelphia Eagles "Coach"
Post by: QB Eagles on January 19, 2016, 02:38:12 PM
part of what seems so unpolished is that he hasn't really learned how to dodge questions and spin answers to his advantage yet

for example he just said flajole "potentially" has a job. lol
Title: Re: Doug Pederson, Philadelphia Eagles "Coach"
Post by: ice grillin you on January 19, 2016, 02:39:13 PM
nothing is 100% but this clown has to be well into the 90 percentile chance of being a terrible head coach
Title: Re: Doug Pederson, Philadelphia Eagles "Coach"
Post by: ice grillin you on January 19, 2016, 02:41:55 PM
"quarterbacks today have the ability to think with their brain"
Title: Re: Doug Pederson, Philadelphia Eagles "Coach"
Post by: QB Eagles on January 19, 2016, 02:42:50 PM
omg jeff still being mysterious about the cooperative GM shtein
Title: Re: Doug Pederson, Philadelphia Eagles "Coach"
Post by: hunt on January 19, 2016, 02:43:47 PM
said they're about to begin a search for a "player personnel head". 
Title: Re: Doug Pederson, Philadelphia Eagles "Coach"
Post by: hunt on January 19, 2016, 02:44:08 PM
"quarterbacks today have the ability to think with their brain"

yeah...that was almost poetic.  :-D
Title: Re: Doug Pederson, Philadelphia Eagles "Coach"
Post by: Butchers Bill on January 19, 2016, 02:44:21 PM
Two takeaways from watching the stream...

1) Lurie is a tiny man.  Standing next to Pederson he looks like a midget.

2) Pederson is very uncomfortable in front of the press - wonder how long it'll take him to adjust to the attention
Title: Re: Doug Pederson, Philadelphia Eagles "Coach"
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on January 19, 2016, 02:49:50 PM
So did Lurie pretend like no one was talking when asked about Howie?
Title: Re: Doug Pederson, Philadelphia Eagles "Coach"
Post by: ice grillin you on January 19, 2016, 02:52:50 PM
So did Lurie pretend like no one was talking when asked about Howie?

putting whether you want Howie involved in PP aside I thought he gave a fine answer....said they will be hiring a pp head and at that time they will explain the structure...but by all accounts it sounds like it will be a collab as they said it would be a couple of weeks ago
Title: Re: Doug Pederson, Philadelphia Eagles "Coach"
Post by: Susquehanna Birder on January 19, 2016, 03:16:36 PM
2) Pederson is very uncomfortable in front of the press - wonder how long it'll take him to adjust to the attention

I'm thinking that he will adjust. I'm sure this has got to be an intensely uncomfortable place to be, and he's just not used to it. I think I like to see that more than having some BSer who just stands there and blows smoke up my ass. Hopefully he shows some personality and spark, and the media players don't grind him to a pulp before that happens.
Title: Re: Doug Pederson, Philadelphia Eagles "Coach"
Post by: Rome on January 19, 2016, 03:17:48 PM
He thought it was better not to give Brady the ball back than it was to score two touchdowns to win. 

I heard him correctly there, right?   I mean that was his actual explanation.

Title: Re: Doug Pederson, Philadelphia Eagles "Coach"
Post by: ice grillin you on January 19, 2016, 03:20:51 PM
He thought it was better not to give Brady the ball back than it was to score two touchdowns to win. 

I heard him correctly there, right?   I mean that was his actual explanation.

lol....yes....twice
Title: Re: Doug Pederson, Philadelphia Eagles "Coach"
Post by: hunt on January 19, 2016, 03:23:37 PM
you guys didn't expect him to throw andy under the bus there, did you? 
Title: Re: Doug Pederson, Philadelphia Eagles "Coach"
Post by: smeags on January 19, 2016, 03:28:46 PM
The guys name isn't chip Kelly ... For now that's a win.
Title: Re: Doug Pederson, Philadelphia Eagles "Coach"
Post by: ice grillin you on January 19, 2016, 03:34:19 PM
you guys didn't expect him to throw andy under the bus there, did you?

nope....but i do expect coherent semi intelligent answers to simple questions from the head coach of an nfl team

not only did he babble about it in a completely mush brained way but he did it twice

also he said he was calling the plays so it wouldn't have been throwing andy under the bus

guy sounds like a complete simpleton to me
Title: Re: Doug Pederson, Philadelphia Eagles "Coach"
Post by: smeags on January 19, 2016, 03:38:59 PM
So you this will be a failure ?
Title: Re: Doug Pederson, Philadelphia Eagles "Coach"
Post by: ice grillin you on January 19, 2016, 03:40:16 PM
other than maybe his wife is there anyone on the planet that thinks he will succeed?

i don't even think lurie believes that
Title: Re: Doug Pederson, Philadelphia Eagles "Coach"
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on January 19, 2016, 03:49:35 PM
5 year deal

So Lurie will have to eat 2 years of money after the 3rd year firing
Title: Re: Doug Pederson, Philadelphia Eagles "Coach"
Post by: rjs246 on January 19, 2016, 03:57:19 PM
I'd say he only lasts two years, but I've said that from the jump. This is a stop-gap signing until they can lure in a real coach. Now it's up to Howie and collaborators to piece a decent roster together. Let's Go Flyers.
Title: Re: Doug Pederson, Philadelphia Eagles "Coach"
Post by: AshishPatel81 on January 19, 2016, 04:02:32 PM
I was absolutely blown away by the press conference. Well-spoken, quick-thinking, took complete command of the room. He just LOOKS like a head coach. Like a leader.
Title: Re: Doug Pederson, Philadelphia Eagles "Coach"
Post by: Rome on January 19, 2016, 04:10:42 PM
His time management explanation attempt was the most feeble non-answer I think I've ever heard.

He had a chance right there to come clean and say, "well, I farged it up.  I should have used my time outs and had the offense be more alert with the time running down."

Instead he said, ummm.... errrrr... Tom Brady....  DERP. 

Good God we are never getting a Super Bowl win. 



Title: Re: Doug Pederson, Philadelphia Eagles "Coach"
Post by: smeags on January 19, 2016, 04:21:33 PM
I was absolutely blown away by the press conference. Well-spoken, quick-thinking, took complete command of the room. He just LOOKS like a head coach. Like a leader.

Sarcasm ?
Title: Re: Doug Pederson, Philadelphia Eagles "Coach"
Post by: Sgt PSN on January 19, 2016, 05:14:14 PM
He wasn't great but I don't think he was as bad as you guys are saying.

Not sure if any of you have ever had to speak in front of a large group of people or not, but it ain't easy. When I was recruiting in the Marines, I gave a presentation every Friday to roughly 300 people. I rehearsed it about 20x before my first presentation. I could give it in front of my peers without needing to look back at the slide projection behind me.  Then I stood in front of a shtein load of total strangers and I farging sucked. I was stuttering and stumbling through everything. I was saying things that made no sense. I was answering questions so poorly that people were asking me to clarify over and over. I was brutal and I broke every rule about public speaking. I got progressively better each week. After 4-6 weeks I was presenting info flawlessly and I cut my speaking time in half. Point is, it's a skill that most people need to experience to get good at so I'm going to give him a bit of a pass for sounding like a mush mouth. 

I think he'll be competent at worst in the leadership department. I think he'll have really good rapport with the players and their respect. Will be take that to the next level and have them ready to run through a brick wall for him?  Time will tell.

He didn't give much info in terms of what his offense is going to be, other than it having WCO foundation, but will incorporate other styles. I have no idea what to think about the offense that we'll be seeing.

I definitely didn't care for his explanation of the final few minutes of the Pats game. He was basically making the on sides kick the do or die play of the game, which is something I think nearly every coach in the country would try to avoid. Get in the endzone, kick deep, and give your defense a shot to go 3 and out. 

Everything else was pretty meh.

I loved the fact that in the beginning, Lurie put a lot of emphasis on wanting a coach that's approachable.  Not so thinly veiled shot at Chip.  Awesome.
Title: Re: Doug Pederson, Philadelphia Eagles "Coach"
Post by: Rome on January 19, 2016, 06:43:37 PM
Belichick is as approachable as a pit viper.  He's a colossal dick who couldn't care less about Boston, the fans, or anything else except winning Super Bowls.

I'll take one of those, please. 
Title: Re: Doug Pederson, Philadelphia Eagles "Coach"
Post by: ice grillin you on January 19, 2016, 06:48:24 PM
another great pedersonism on sportscenter tonight

"that's an important position on any football team....you know....that quarterback position"
Title: Re: Doug Pederson, Philadelphia Eagles "Coach"
Post by: Eagaholic on January 19, 2016, 07:34:32 PM
I'm not sure if I'm posting this in the right place. I did a search and still couldn't find the Fire Doug Peterson thread. But it looks like Jeff's long term plan is to rebuild the team by stockpiling a few years worth of top draft picks then hiring an NFL coach.
Title: Re: Doug Pederson, Philadelphia Eagles "Coach"
Post by: QB Eagles on January 19, 2016, 07:41:00 PM
Belichick is as approachable as a pit viper.  He's a colossal dick who couldn't care less about Boston, the fans, or anything else except winning Super Bowls.

I'll take one of those, please. 

I thought we just had one of those. Problem is, he didn't win the Super Bowl in year 2.
Title: Re: Doug Pederson, Philadelphia Eagles "Coach"
Post by: ice grillin you on January 19, 2016, 07:49:22 PM
both guys are dicks but the key difference btwn belly and chip is that most of bellys players would lay in traffic for him where as chips players almost to a man despised
Title: Re: Doug Pederson, Philadelphia Eagles "Coach"
Post by: Rome on January 19, 2016, 08:07:56 PM
Kelly is the smart kid everyone hates.  Bellichick is the smart kid who sells the best pot. 
Title: Re: Doug Pederson, Philadelphia Eagles "Coach"
Post by: MDS on January 19, 2016, 08:08:08 PM
pederson seems like substitute teacher that got a job full time and nobody is going to take him seriously

how many weeks into the season before schwartz is openly undermining him. 4? 1?
Title: Re: Doug Pederson, Philadelphia Eagles "Coach"
Post by: ice grillin you on January 19, 2016, 08:33:32 PM
the one potentially really good thing that came out of today was lurie refusing to say that Howie would be the point man for PP...and then Howies media session pretty much backing this up...we will see who they hire...if they go after a ballard then Howie is in trouble....if they go after an up and comer like hortiz or fitterer then the collab will be in full effect
Title: Re: Doug Pederson, Philadelphia Eagles "Coach"
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on January 19, 2016, 11:55:22 PM
ex Browns OC John DeFilippo is the new QB coach
Title: Re: Doug Pederson, Philadelphia Eagles "Coach"
Post by: ice grillin you on January 19, 2016, 11:58:18 PM
coached sanchez in ny
Title: Re: Doug Pederson, Philadelphia Eagles "Coach"
Post by: MDS on January 20, 2016, 12:16:16 AM
coached sanchez in ny

that dude is getting cut
Title: Re: Doug Pederson, Philadelphia Eagles "Coach"
Post by: Sgt PSN on January 20, 2016, 12:04:56 PM
Who's going to start then?
Title: Re: Doug Pederson, Philadelphia Eagles "Coach"
Post by: General_Failure on January 20, 2016, 12:31:56 PM
RGIII
Title: Re: Doug Pederson, Philadelphia Eagles "Coach"
Post by: smeags on January 20, 2016, 12:36:56 PM
that would certainly keep it interesting
Title: Re: Doug Pederson, Philadelphia Eagles "Coach"
Post by: Susquehanna Birder on January 20, 2016, 01:46:45 PM
They could pick up Chase Daniels for way less than Bradford would cost, and about the same price as Sanchez. Pederson already knows the guy, and he could manage the offense much in the way Pederson did when Reid drafted McNabb.

The unfortunate part is that we don't have a high enough #1 pick to snag a franchise QB.
Title: Re: Doug Pederson, Philadelphia Eagles "Coach"
Post by: smeags on January 20, 2016, 01:50:09 PM
Would fitzpatrick be an option ?
Title: Re: Doug Pederson, Philadelphia Eagles "Coach"
Post by: QB Eagles on January 20, 2016, 02:12:16 PM
Would fitzpatrick be an option ?

Yeah but the Jets aren't likely to let him walk. It's less likely than the Eagles letting Bradford walk, because the Jets have a stable regime in place.
Title: Re: Doug Pederson, Philadelphia Eagles "Coach"
Post by: ice grillin you on January 20, 2016, 04:39:55 PM
The unfortunate part is that we they don't have a high enough #1 pick to snag a franchise QB.

there are no franchise quarterbacks this year but if the eagles wanted paxton lynch theres a good chance he will be there for them at 12...and theres not a big gap betwn him and goff
Title: Re: Doug Pederson, Philadelphia Eagles "Coach"
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on January 20, 2016, 04:49:45 PM
Lynch is probably going to be a bust
Title: Re: Doug Pederson, Philadelphia Eagles "Coach"
Post by: ice grillin you on January 20, 2016, 05:10:44 PM
so are goff and wentz

awful year for qbs
Title: Re: Doug Pederson, Philadelphia Eagles "Coach"
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on January 20, 2016, 05:13:30 PM
Yep

Maybe next year they'll have a shot at Watson
Title: Re: Doug Pederson, Philadelphia Eagles "Coach"
Post by: MDS on January 20, 2016, 05:22:36 PM
lurie isnt throwing this year or taking a step back

i get the feeling they are going to refuse to be outbid for bradford....of course he could take less to get out of this mess, and that wouldnt be a bad call
Title: Re: Doug Pederson, Philadelphia Eagles "Coach"
Post by: ice grillin you on January 20, 2016, 06:49:33 PM
g lew named wr coach

gene chung back as well
Title: Re: Doug Pederson, Philadelphia Eagles "Coach"
Post by: hbionic on January 20, 2016, 06:50:38 PM
SUPER.BOWL.BOUND.
Title: Re: Doug Pederson, Philadelphia Eagles "Coach"
Post by: Rome on January 20, 2016, 07:31:55 PM
I've been thru the staff he put together and although it's not overwhelmingly impressive, it's not bad at all.   I'm mildly impressed that they've gotten it together as quickly as they have.  I'm still nowhere near being sold and I think Pederson is going to be a disaster, but at least he seems able to select competent football guys to coach whatever middling talent they end up with.

Title: Re: Doug Pederson, Philadelphia Eagles "Coach"
Post by: ice grillin you on June 03, 2016, 10:30:53 AM
holy shtein this buffoons presser today was so cringe worthy
Title: Re: Doug Pederson, Philadelphia Eagles "Coach"
Post by: Don Ho on June 03, 2016, 03:41:43 PM
Oh dear.  This is going to be fun.
Title: Re: Doug Pederson, Philadelphia Eagles "Coach"
Post by: ice grillin you on June 07, 2016, 11:54:22 AM
tweedle dum is giving another presser at noon if you feel like putting yourself thru it
Title: Re: Doug Pederson, Philadelphia Eagles "Coach"
Post by: ice grillin you on June 07, 2016, 12:21:18 PM
biggest news to come out of that was that its wen-dell smallwood like turk wendell not wendal smallwood
Title: Re: Doug Pederson, Philadelphia Eagles "Coach"
Post by: QB Eagles on June 07, 2016, 02:56:47 PM
I watched just about every Chip PC and even most of them by boring-ass Andy, but I just don't have it in me to sit through a June Doug PC.
Title: Re: Doug Pederson, Philadelphia Eagles "Coach"
Post by: Don Ho on June 07, 2016, 05:48:24 PM
This may be one of the worst off season's as far as the excitement, anticipation, curiosity level.  Kind of like the rest of the Philly sporting teams.
Title: Re: Doug Pederson, Philadelphia Eagles "Coach"
Post by: phattymatty on June 08, 2016, 12:47:20 AM
HWow how boring is this guy that a thread about the head coach went 6 months without anyone talking about him.
Title: Re: Doug Pederson, Philadelphia Eagles "Coach"
Post by: ice grillin you on June 08, 2016, 06:06:43 AM
I just don't have it in me to sit through a June Doug PC.

I don't have a lot going for me in my life but the one thing I do have is a whole lot of time
Title: Re: Doug Pederson, Philadelphia Eagles "Coach"
Post by: smeags on June 08, 2016, 01:23:35 PM
admission is the first step towards recovery.
Title: Re: Doug Pederson, Philadelphia Eagles "Coach"
Post by: Don Ho on June 09, 2016, 01:24:17 AM
I love you guys, really, I do.   :-D
Title: Re: Doug Pederson, Philadelphia Eagles "Coach"
Post by: ice grillin you on September 19, 2016, 06:49:23 PM
this is dope

https://twitter.com/Eagles/status/777971035836526592
Title: Re: Doug Pederson, Philadelphia Eagles "Coach"
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on September 19, 2016, 07:05:04 PM
Yeah that was pretty good
Title: Re: Doug Pederson, Philadelphia Eagles "Coach"
Post by: Diomedes on September 19, 2016, 07:09:15 PM
coach Doofus seems to be doing just fine on the sideline
Title: Re: Doug Pederson, Philadelphia Eagles "Coach"
Post by: QB Eagles on September 19, 2016, 07:25:48 PM
NFL.com had an edited down version of that last week that really did make him sound dumb, basically just telling a bunch of guys "good job" and saying nothing actually related to football. This version is way better. Makes me wonder if NFL Films cuts out all the football talk because they aren't sure what the team would be comfortable leaving in.
Title: Re: Doug Pederson, Philadelphia Eagles "Coach"
Post by: MDS on September 20, 2016, 12:21:04 AM
BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

amazing job by Jeffrey and Howie

And by amazing I mean farged up

@oldtakesexposed
Title: Re: Doug Pederson, Philadelphia Eagles "Coach"
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on September 20, 2016, 12:29:06 AM
Oh well. I'm more than happy to be wrong. It means they're doing well.

You rip me for being a homer and then rip when I'm not in lock step. Make up your mind will ya?
Title: Re: Doug Pederson, Philadelphia Eagles "Coach"
Post by: MDS on September 20, 2016, 12:30:09 AM
look at the thread title tex

nobody on earth was high on doug....he still seems like he cant remember where he left his keys

but damn if he cant call a game
Title: Re: Doug Pederson, Philadelphia Eagles "Coach"
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on September 20, 2016, 12:33:16 AM
And manage the clock.

The fears of being a train wreck seem to be unfounded. He's aggressive on fourth, runs the ball and saves timeouts. Brain doesn't compute this yet
Title: Re: Doug Pederson, Philadelphia Eagles "Coach"
Post by: Sgt PSN on September 20, 2016, 12:36:31 AM
2 games, 1 of them on MNF in a rowdy sports town like Chicago and I don't think the Eagles have had to burn a single TO to avoid penalty. Plays are coming in quickly and Wentz isn't lost under center.  This is seriously refreshing.
Title: Re: Doug Pederson, Philadelphia Eagles "Coach"
Post by: MDS on September 20, 2016, 12:40:07 AM
i didnt like anything about the 4th and goal call from the 1 up 15 with fossil midget sproles, but other than that theres really nothing to complain about

the 2nd attempt at it was much better

just use mathews or barner on the goal line from now on and we're cool
Title: Re: Doug Pederson, Philadelphia Eagles "Coach"
Post by: Sgt PSN on September 20, 2016, 12:42:40 AM
I'm thinking that his logic was that Sproles would be hard to find and he could just tunnel under the pile.  It's not completely retarded, but yeah, just pound it in with a big back.
Title: Re: Doug Pederson, Philadelphia Eagles "Coach"
Post by: Eagaholic on September 20, 2016, 01:08:49 AM
I gotta believe the D line is thinking the same thing and just submarining at the snap as they usually do anyway.
Title: Re: Doug Pederson, Philadelphia Eagles "Coach"
Post by: ice grillin you on September 20, 2016, 08:49:24 AM
Oh well. I'm more than happy to be wrong. It means they're doing well.

You rip me for being a homer and then rip when I'm not in lock step. Make up your mind will ya?

you might be wrong you might not...it's two friggin games in...yes after coaching for 8 quarters it's nice to have not seen him fall on his face yet which I thought he would do but people also had chip kelly in the HOF after four quarters
Title: Re: Doug Pederson, Philadelphia Eagles "Coach"
Post by: Sgt PSN on September 20, 2016, 10:32:41 AM
Chip was HOF after the 1st half of the racist game.
Title: Re: Doug Pederson, Philadelphia Eagles "Coach"
Post by: Eagles_Legendz on September 20, 2016, 12:08:22 PM
One thing that I've been very pleasantly surprised about Pederson is I figured he'd be the ultra conservative type, but he's shown no hesitation with 4th and short once across the 50.
Title: Re: Doug Pederson, Philadelphia Eagles "Coach"
Post by: Eagaholic on September 20, 2016, 12:40:28 PM
Chip was HOF after the 1st half of the racist game.
But a lot of HOF bandwagoners bailed when Washington came back in the second half.
Title: Re: Doug Pederson, Philadelphia Eagles "Coach"
Post by: Rome on September 20, 2016, 01:04:39 PM
Pederson has already made adjustments in the first two games that Kelly refused to make in three years there.  Again, Kelly is a great college coach but he's also the most stubborn SOB ever to blow a whistle. 
Title: Re: Doug Pederson, Philadelphia Eagles "Coach"
Post by: ice grillin you on September 21, 2016, 08:10:37 AM
classic

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cs39gTtWYAQx-31.jpg)
Title: Re: Doug Pederson, Philadelphia Eagles "Coach"
Post by: smeags on September 21, 2016, 08:56:21 AM
so far, so good.
Title: Re: Doug Pederson, Philadelphia Eagles "Coach"
Post by: hbionic on September 21, 2016, 01:12:18 PM
I haven't heard one person yet say that they want to have Doug Pederson's babies. Not one of you fools.

He at least deserves to put the tip in, you prudes!
Title: Re: Doug Pederson, Philadelphia Eagles "Coach"
Post by: General_Failure on September 21, 2016, 01:13:57 PM
Nobody has to tell him, he'll drunkenly ask about it at the Christmas party.
Title: Re: Doug Pederson, Philadelphia Eagles "Coach"
Post by: Susquehanna Birder on September 21, 2016, 01:16:40 PM
I haven't heard one person yet say that they want to have Doug Pederson's babies. Not one of you fools.

He at least deserves to put the tip in, you prudes!

For now I think we'll just watch each other from across the room, thanks.
Title: Re: Doug Pederson, Philadelphia Eagles "Coach"
Post by: hbionic on September 21, 2016, 01:18:53 PM
 :-D @ "For now"
Title: Re: Doug Pederson, Philadelphia Eagles "Coach"
Post by: smeags on September 21, 2016, 01:30:57 PM
you really want to panda him dont you.
Title: Re: Doug Pederson, Philadelphia Eagles "Coach"
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on September 21, 2016, 08:11:43 PM
Lolol

Odds Chuggie is looking for a shirtless Pederson pic for his avatar?

Title: Re: Doug Pederson, Philadelphia Eagles "Coach"
Post by: Eagaholic on September 25, 2016, 07:58:54 PM
At 34-3 Peterson could have so onside kicked it, other than that though I though he called a pretty good game.
Title: Re: Doug Pederson, Philadelphia Eagles "Coach"
Post by: hbionic on September 25, 2016, 11:14:15 PM
 :-D
Title: Re: Doug Pederson, Philadelphia Eagles "Coach"
Post by: ice grillin you on September 26, 2016, 08:40:45 AM
every time i see a pederson interview on tv i am absolutely flabbergasted at how big his face is
Title: Re: Doug Pederson, Philadelphia Eagles "Coach"
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on December 04, 2016, 03:02:07 PM
Get out.

Don't just pull the plug - yank the motherfarger out
Title: Re: Doug Pederson, Philadelphia Eagles "Coach"
Post by: AO1 on December 04, 2016, 03:03:37 PM
Get out.

Don't just pull the plug - yank the motherfarger out

Lurie doesn't have the balls
Title: Re: Doug Pederson, Philadelphia Eagles "Coach"
Post by: General_Failure on December 04, 2016, 04:17:57 PM
Now is the right time to ask. Would this team really have been worse off with Head Coach Duce Staley?

(http://phillysportsnetwork.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/01/6_3383299.jpg)
Title: Re: Doug Pederson, Philadelphia Eagles "Coach"
Post by: ice grillin you on December 05, 2016, 09:50:01 AM
so far, so good.
Title: Re: Doug Pederson, Philadelphia Eagles "Coach"
Post by: smeags on December 05, 2016, 12:11:39 PM
don't worry, dougie says he meets with jeff and Howie every week and everything is fine.
Title: Re: Doug Pederson, Philadelphia Eagles "Coach"
Post by: Eagaholic on December 05, 2016, 12:34:58 PM
I didn't catch the game yesterday. Did I miss anything good?
Title: Re: Doug Pederson, Philadelphia Eagles "Coach"
Post by: smeags on December 05, 2016, 12:37:17 PM
I didn't catch the game yesterday. Did I miss anything good?

agholor made a catch.
Title: Re: Doug Pederson, Philadelphia Eagles "Coach"
Post by: smeags on December 06, 2016, 09:19:30 AM
coach fredo is in way over his head. maybe he could make a good OC someday, maybe not, but he's not a HC.
Title: Re: Doug Pederson, Philadelphia Eagles "Coach"
Post by: ice grillin you on December 07, 2016, 08:46:27 AM
maybe he could make a good OC someday, maybe not

you can literally say this about thousands of people in the country
Title: Re: Doug Pederson, Philadelphia Eagles "Coach"
Post by: smeags on December 07, 2016, 09:08:45 AM
oh really ? wow, that's so interesting.
Title: Re: Doug Pederson, Philadelphia Eagles "Coach"
Post by: ice grillin you on December 07, 2016, 09:22:52 AM
no what you said was the exact opposite of interesting and shockingly thoughtless even for you
Title: Re: Doug Pederson, Philadelphia Eagles "Coach"
Post by: General_Failure on December 07, 2016, 09:24:10 AM
Really? Huh.
Title: Re: Doug Pederson, Philadelphia Eagles "Coach"
Post by: Eagaholic on December 07, 2016, 10:52:11 AM
Please, do go on.
Title: Re: Doug Pederson, Philadelphia Eagles "Coach"
Post by: ice grillin you on December 09, 2016, 01:53:05 PM
this sounds an awful lot like doug doesnt know what 12 personnel means?

Quote
Asked about #Eagles' use of "12" personnel last week,  Doug Pederson paused, then said he doesn't use numbers system on offense.
Title: Re: Doug Pederson, Philadelphia Eagles "Coach"
Post by: AshishPatel81 on December 09, 2016, 06:21:44 PM
The media has essentially launched a campaign about anyone who wants Doug Pederson fired.

"You can't fire coaches after one season!"

"You don't want to become the Cleveland Browns!"

"It's not Doug's fault!"

1. Yes you can fire coaches after one season. Why not? If a coach sucks he sucks. The guy should have never been hired in the first place. The goal is to get the best coach for the job that you possibly can, and a guy you think can lead the Eagles in the direction of a Superbowl. If Lurie and co. doesn't think Doug can do that, he absolutely can be fired after one season.

2. The Cleveland Browns are the biggest joke in professional sports most likely. While the Eagles have been in some ugly times of late, it would take a lot to become the Cleveland Browns, and pass a few more awful teams along the way to reaching it. Maybe if they keep Doug Pederson, they will become the Cleveland Browns, if he ends up being that terrible of a coach. There are two ways of looking at it.

3. It may not be completely Doug's fault, as on offense he doesn't have a lot to work with, but you don't always have to be completely at fault for you to lose your job. People lose their jobs all the time simply for the fact that the person doing the decision-making thinks there is another candidate out there better. Not just in sports, but in any profession. If Lurie thinks Doug Pederson isn't completely at fault, but likes a candidate out there way more than him after this season, yes, he absolutely can be fired.

By the way, these are the same media folk who absolutely trashed the hire when it was made, and said the whole coaching search process was a joke... which it was... but if Lurie went back on his verbal agreement with Doug a couple days later and hired someone else, everyone would have been like "Jeff Lurie saved himself from hiring an unqualified Doug Pederson!" But now the narrative is "Not Doug's fault! Can't fire him!" Yes you farging can.

If this team goes into the tank down the stretch and gets annihilated by 3 division opponents at home, Pederson can hit the road and we all can pretend this joke of an experiment never happened.
Title: Re: Doug Pederson, Philadelphia Eagles "Coach"
Post by: QB Eagles on December 09, 2016, 07:02:02 PM
1. Doug is a terrible coach. I have seen absolutely nothing since the first rumors of him getting the job to indicate that he is a legitimate NFL head coach.
2. If the players are actually upset about Doug's vague, mild effort statement, they are emotionally weak. This is the kind of stupid bullshtein a losing team focuses on instead of what it can do to improve.
3. Doug isn't the reason this team sucks. The offensive personnel are horrible. They would still be horrible with a good coach.
4. Doug should still be fired, because of #1.
Title: Re: Doug Pederson, Philadelphia Eagles "Coach"
Post by: QB Eagles on December 09, 2016, 07:06:01 PM
What is a more demoralizing thought in the locker room?

A. "Coach doesn't think I give enough effort."
OR
B. "Coach farging sucks."

I submit that it is B. And it's something that anyone with a brain in that locker room was thinking before this week.
Title: Re: Doug Pederson, Philadelphia Eagles "Coach"
Post by: QB Eagles on December 18, 2016, 04:09:55 PM
I've said it before and I'll say it again.

"Coach farging sucks."
Title: Re: Doug Pederson, Philadelphia Eagles "Coach"
Post by: ice grillin you on December 19, 2016, 07:58:27 AM
I'm pretty sure everyone said it when he was hired
Title: Re: Doug Pederson, Philadelphia Eagles "Coach"
Post by: Rome on December 19, 2016, 11:05:10 AM
After we got done laughing and shaking our heads, you mean.

I gave the guy a shot, but yeah, he's done.  The players deserve better and so do we.  Not gonna happen, though. 
Title: Re: Doug Pederson, Philadelphia Eagles "Coach"
Post by: smeags on December 19, 2016, 11:34:39 AM
so "IF" doug gets the boot, who do you want in his place?
Title: Re: Doug Pederson, Philadelphia Eagles "Coach"
Post by: Rome on December 19, 2016, 11:47:14 AM
Gus Bus!
Title: Re: Doug Pederson, Philadelphia Eagles "Coach"
Post by: Rome on December 19, 2016, 11:50:00 AM
McDaniels would be my actual pick.  I'd love McDermott but he's not coming to Philly after getting the back of Howie's hand. 
Title: Re: Doug Pederson, Philadelphia Eagles "Coach"
Post by: ice grillin you on December 19, 2016, 11:52:19 AM
mcdermott would be dumb anyway because hes a defensive guy....they need a sharp offensive minded head coach to grow wentz
Title: Re: Doug Pederson, Philadelphia Eagles "Coach"
Post by: Rome on December 19, 2016, 11:57:15 AM
That's what QB coaches are for.  And who says McDermott couldn't hire a great OC?

But anyway I said McKid for a reason.  He'd be ideal. 
Title: Re: Doug Pederson, Philadelphia Eagles "Coach"
Post by: smeags on December 19, 2016, 12:08:16 PM
yeah, I think mcdaniels would be the right choice. maybe Bradley as the DC ?
Title: Re: Doug Pederson, Philadelphia Eagles "Coach"
Post by: MDS on December 19, 2016, 01:51:02 PM
if you want a young up and coming oc, the two names at the top of the list are mcdaniels and kyle shanahan

otherwise:
harold goodwin (cards)
darrell bevvell (seahawks)
jim bob cooter (lions)
todd monken (bucs)
sean mcvay (wash)

then theres giving a guy like scott lenahan a 2nd crack or trading for sean payton. doug lookin safe.
Title: Re: Doug Pederson, Philadelphia Eagles "Coach"
Post by: Eagles_Legendz on December 19, 2016, 02:48:43 PM
He's not getting fired this year
Title: Re: Doug Pederson, Philadelphia Eagles "Coach"
Post by: Rome on December 19, 2016, 02:53:25 PM
I actually lol'd at Cooter. 
Title: Re: Doug Pederson, Philadelphia Eagles "Coach"
Post by: Sgt PSN on December 19, 2016, 09:18:10 PM
Pederson is getting 2 years minimum, maybe even 3. 

He's a dope, but he also has little talent to work with. I can't say that this team would be significantly better with a different HC right now. 
Title: Re: Doug Pederson, Philadelphia Eagles "Coach"
Post by: AshishPatel81 on December 19, 2016, 09:55:29 PM
Maybe, but they lost 6 games this year by one score, and of those 6, 5 of them were by less than a TD and 2 of them by a single point.

If the Eagles have a better coaching staff, even if that led to the Eagles winning 3 of those 6 games, they have 8 wins and are right in the mix for a wildcard spot.
Title: Re: Doug Pederson, Philadelphia Eagles "Coach"
Post by: General_Failure on December 19, 2016, 09:59:48 PM
McDaniels would be my actual pick.  I'd love McDermott but he's not coming to Philly after getting the back of Howie's hand. 

Josh McDaniels? Josh "Who needs Jay Cutler, we can draft Tim Tebow" McDaniels?
Title: Re: Doug Pederson, Philadelphia Eagles "Coach"
Post by: Sgt PSN on December 20, 2016, 01:44:50 PM
Maybe, but they lost 6 games this year by one score, and of those 6, 5 of them were by less than a TD and 2 of them by a single point.

If the Eagles have a better coaching staff, even if that led to the Eagles winning 3 of those 6 games, they have 8 wins and are right in the mix for a wildcard spot.

That's assuming that a different HC/coaching staff would have them in the exact same position during all of those games.  It's ridiculous to try and figure out how a different HC would do in those very specific scenarios when chances are those exact scenarios would never present themselves if another person was calling the shots.  The games would have played out completely different from the opening kick.....maybe for the better, maybe for the worse.  Who knows? 

But what it really comes down to is you don't fire a HC after 1 season unless it was a catastrophic disaster.  Especially when your QB is tied to the HC like Wentz and Pederson are.  Firing Pederson starts setting Wentz up for a Sam Bradford situation where he's getting a different OC every year for the first few years.  Unless the 2nd coming of Bill Walsh makes himself available to the Eagles, it just doesn't make sense to fire Pederson after 1 year.  You gotta give any HC a minimum of 2 years (3 is ideal, imo) to implement his system and get the players he wants before you can really evaluate his ability. 
Title: Re: Doug Pederson, Philadelphia Eagles "Coach"
Post by: ice grillin you on December 20, 2016, 01:58:22 PM
normally id agree but pederson is straight up unqualified...his mistakes are catastrophic...they arent mistakes where you can nitpick on play calls or the pass run ratio...altho he does make those as well he makes many more mistakes that pop warner coaches wouldnt make....hes a travesty and needs to go for a real nfl head coach...if this was wentz fifth coach in seven years the continuity argument might fly but wentz wasnt even supposed to play this year...getting him a real coach to grow up with would be a huge net positive not a negative

shtein chip made the playoffs his rookie year and by the end of year two even most of his defenders could tell he was not an nfl head coach....pederson has never had a real coaching position in his life and couldnt form sentences at his intro presser which led into some of the most inexplicable decisions/explanations ive ever seen at any level this year

all that being said pederson is not going anywhere....the birds are going to have to put up with his shtein for at least another season or two and any games they win will be in spite of him....then move forward into wentz prime with a real coach
Title: Re: Doug Pederson, Philadelphia Eagles "Coach"
Post by: Sgt PSN on December 20, 2016, 02:15:14 PM
Some of his mistakes are 100% on him.  Others I gotta at least spread the blame equally to the players.

Take Agholor's 4th and 2 jet sweep for example.  That play call wasn't a bad call at all.  The hole was there for him to cut upfield and make the first, but he kept going to the outside.  And I'm pretty sure he still could have made it if he wasn't a total moron.  Obviously you can blame Pederson for relying on Agholor with such a critical play, but it's not like he's got a deep stable of players to use in that situation either. 

I'm not really trying to defend the guy.  It's not like I think he's ever going to be a great HC, I just think that unless you want to risk being the Rams or the Browns you gotta give him 2 or 3 years.  I think he's probably along the lines of a Jason Garrett, who was like a career .500 coach before this season and I think most fans wanted to run him out of Dallas.  But now the guy has a couple of studs and suddenly he's COTY material.  Amazing how talent can make an average coach look really good. 
Title: Re: Doug Pederson, Philadelphia Eagles "Coach"
Post by: ice grillin you on December 20, 2016, 03:03:21 PM
Some of his mistakes are 100% on him.  Others I gotta at least spread the blame equally to the players.

Take Agholor's 4th and 2 jet sweep for example. 

yeah and agholor should be fired after this year...doug is basically the coaching version of agholor...but at least agholor showed a lot in college...doug has never done shtein at any coaching level other than i guess high school and im not sure how good he was there

doug pederson being as good a coach as jason garrett is laughable....im not even saying garrett is some genius but doug is not an nfl coach period...garrett had a resume before he was hired and whatever else you want to say about him really smart...doug is more rich kotite or bruce coslet with no experience...if wentz becomes a true franchise qb could he turn into a 8-8 9-7 coach...i suppose so...but why wait around for that...they should cut bait as soon as possible and not waste any years

theres maybe been three games this year where doug didnt make an egregious decision that cost them....and in about half the games hes made fireable ones

--the sproles swing pass against dallas

--the wentz sweep and sproles up the guts vs the giants

--the matthews sweep against detroit

--allowing dallas to run out the clock

--the insane amount of passing plays this year with no wr's

--not calling a time out when agholor was lined up wrong against seattle

--in preseason not knowing how many headset channels the nfl allowed for calling in plays and thinking he had to go thru frank reich to get plays in

--the two yard challenge

--putting smallwood in against dallas

im sure im forgetting a bunch but it goes on and on...kindergarten mistakes...the kind that dont really improve with experience...you either know this shtein or you dont...and this doesnt even count the insane explanations hes given for things going back to the debacle in kc last year...him not knowing rules and how things work...hes so far in over his head its not even funny

chip kelly was/is a stubborn farg...a coach like that can change...doug pederson is a moron and you dont start getting smart at age 50
Title: Re: Doug Pederson, Philadelphia Eagles "Coach"
Post by: ice grillin you on December 20, 2016, 03:11:04 PM
oh lolol i forgot about this one after the minny game...explaining what half the distance to the goal means when you are on the two yard line


ďItís kind of a no brainer because you get the ball at the one, half the distance from the two"
Title: Re: Doug Pederson, Philadelphia Eagles "Coach"
Post by: Sgt PSN on December 20, 2016, 03:34:01 PM
doug is basically the coaching version of agholor

This made me laugh.  And all in all, I agree with everything you said.  Except this....

Quote
chip kelly was/is a stubborn farg...a coach like that can change...doug pederson is a moron and you dont start getting smart at age 50

I'm probably just arguing semantics here, but stubborn people don't change.  I'm pretty sure that not changing is a common theme among stubborn people.  Chip ain't changing and Pederson isn't getting a Mensa invite any time soon, but I think Pederson has a higher NFL ceiling than Chip. 

I'm not even sure why I'm defending the guy.  I kind of feel bad for him, I guess.  Not to mention that I really do want him to do well.  He seems like a likable dope who would unintentionally keep you laughing all day and doesn't have a clue as to why.     
Title: Re: Doug Pederson, Philadelphia Eagles "Coach"
Post by: ice grillin you on December 20, 2016, 03:37:49 PM
i mean you very well may be right but chip kelly could change if he wanted...its at least a possibility however small of one

dumb 50 year olds dont wake up one day and become smart
Title: Re: Doug Pederson, Philadelphia Eagles "Coach"
Post by: AshishPatel81 on December 20, 2016, 03:38:25 PM
Maybe, but they lost 6 games this year by one score, and of those 6, 5 of them were by less than a TD and 2 of them by a single point.

If the Eagles have a better coaching staff, even if that led to the Eagles winning 3 of those 6 games, they have 8 wins and are right in the mix for a wildcard spot.

That's assuming that a different HC/coaching staff would have them in the exact same position during all of those games.  It's ridiculous to try and figure out how a different HC would do in those very specific scenarios when chances are those exact scenarios would never present themselves if another person was calling the shots.  The games would have played out completely different from the opening kick.....maybe for the better, maybe for the worse.  Who knows? 

But what it really comes down to is you don't fire a HC after 1 season unless it was a catastrophic disaster.  Especially when your QB is tied to the HC like Wentz and Pederson are.  Firing Pederson starts setting Wentz up for a Sam Bradford situation where he's getting a different OC every year for the first few years.  Unless the 2nd coming of Bill Walsh makes himself available to the Eagles, it just doesn't make sense to fire Pederson after 1 year.  You gotta give any HC a minimum of 2 years (3 is ideal, imo) to implement his system and get the players he wants before you can really evaluate his ability.

I didn't mean it that way. I was just using it as a barometer. What I meant was, if the Eagles had a better coaching staff, if these are teams they are barely losing to with awful coaching, I don't think it's a reach to say if they went into those games well coached, they could pull some of those out.

I think Doug Pederson is directly responsible for 2 of the losses at least. Dallas and Giants. In Dallas like ice said, he did the stupid pass to push the FG back, declined not to kick the FG, which makes it a 2 possession game with 5 minutes left or so.

The Giants game they had to play catch up all game long with his idiotic decisions to go for 4th down, and when he went for them he kept running Wentz to the edge like he had Michael Vick speed. It was just awful.

I'm not just focusing in on Pederson either, Schwartz has been bad. Guy refuses to blitz in a game unless he gets massively drilled through the media the week before, shows very little creativity or diversity on defense. All his defensive units have regressed this season and with no major injuries to blame. I'm starting to think he was unemployed last year for a reason.

I don't think the Eagles are a playoff team with a better coaching staff, but I can say this confidently and that's with a better coaching staff, the Eagles certainly would not have been officially eliminated from playoff contention already, and would have more wins than they do now.
Title: Re: Doug Pederson, Philadelphia Eagles "Coach"
Post by: ice grillin you on December 20, 2016, 03:55:32 PM
you can make make an argument that putting vaitai in at all when he clearly wasnt ready and then not helping him for most of the game cost them the wash game

then you had three games in a row with double digit penalties and two of those games being close losses...now obviously all those penalties are not on the coach but when its that bad his nice guy persona that made no one accountable much less worried definitely contributed to a laissez faire attitude...i will say that is correctable as dealing with a locker room is definitely something you feel out as you gain experience in the league
Title: Re: Doug Pederson, Philadelphia Eagles "Coach"
Post by: Rome on December 20, 2016, 04:28:47 PM
They're 0-6 in games decided by 7 points or less.   Coaching matters in games like that.   It's no substitute for talent on the field, however.  Give Wentz the weapons that were here before (Pimp, Shady and Maclin) and I have no doubt this is a playoff team. 
Title: Re: Doug Pederson, Philadelphia Eagles "Coach"
Post by: AshishPatel81 on December 20, 2016, 04:48:29 PM
I agree, but I don't think they will ever be a Superbowl contender until they get real coaches in here. Even in this watered down NFL. I know it's a cliche, but the NFL isn't like the NBA, in the NFL playoffs anybody can be anybody. Those chances increase dramatically when you have a legit coaching staff that goes in there and throws something the other staff isn't prepared for. I have no confidence Pederson or Schwartz would be capable of doing that.
Title: Re: Doug Pederson, Philadelphia Eagles "Coach"
Post by: ice grillin you on December 20, 2016, 07:27:08 PM
I could make the playoffs in the NFL...and probably even win a game
Title: Re: Doug Pederson, Philadelphia Eagles "Coach"
Post by: ice grillin you on September 04, 2017, 12:21:28 PM
mike lombardi

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ďMy beloved 76ers once hired a guy by the name of Roy Rubin from Long Island University. Poor Roy. He finished 4-47 before the Sixers canned him. 4-47! Years later, Fred Carter said ĎLetting Rubin coach was like letting a teenager run a big corporation.í

Hey Fred, meet the Eaglesí head coach, Doug Pederson! Now, everybody knows Pederson isnít a head coach. He might be less qualified to coach a team than anyone Iíve ever seen in my 30-plus years in the NFL.
Title: Re: Doug Pederson, Philadelphia Eagles "Coach"
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on September 04, 2017, 12:41:36 PM
Hot take society coming through

Off the top of my head Rich Kotite, Ray Handley, Chris Palmer, Rod Marinelli, Pat Shurmur, Rod Chudzinski, Lane Kiffin....all in the argument to be worse choices than Doug.

I'm sure there's more.

Pederson is a boring choice. He's had bad moments but he's not the worst ever
Title: Re: Doug Pederson, Philadelphia Eagles "Coach"
Post by: Sgt PSN on September 04, 2017, 01:00:11 PM
Doesn't matter if he is among the worst coaching hires all time or if he's just some boring, middle of the pack guy who will eventually be forgotten. Win football games or gtfo.  This is a make or break year for him as far as I'm concerned.
Title: Re: Doug Pederson, Philadelphia Eagles "Coach"
Post by: ice grillin you on September 04, 2017, 01:55:27 PM
Hot take society coming through

Off the top of my head Rich Kotite, Ray Handley, Chris Palmer, Rod Marinelli, Pat Shurmur, Rod Chudzinski, Lane Kiffin....all in the argument to be worse choices than Doug.

I'm sure there's more.

Pederson is a boring choice. He's had bad moments but he's not the worst ever

none of those coaches were in high school five minutes before they were hired
Title: Re: Doug Pederson, Philadelphia Eagles "Coach"
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on September 04, 2017, 02:53:59 PM
Ok.
Title: Re: Doug Pederson, Philadelphia Eagles "Coach"
Post by: ice grillin you on September 04, 2017, 03:03:11 PM
nm
Title: Re: Doug Pederson, Philadelphia Eagles "Coach"
Post by: Rome on September 04, 2017, 04:17:27 PM
If anyone would recognize a professional failure, it's Mike Lombardi.  Glass house meet rock. 
Title: Re: Doug Pederson, Philadelphia Eagles "Coach"
Post by: ice grillin you on September 04, 2017, 04:25:03 PM
he has multiple super bowl rings...what a bum
Title: Re: Doug Pederson, Philadelphia Eagles "Coach"
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on September 04, 2017, 04:50:37 PM
Dig a little deeper into his personnel past. If he was making those calls as an Eagles personnel guy you'd be in here blasting away
Title: Re: Doug Pederson, Philadelphia Eagles "Coach"
Post by: MDS on September 04, 2017, 04:51:45 PM
facts about michael lombardi
1. is shore trash
2. won his rings as a low level assistant for walsh and bb
3. is correct that doug sucks
4. was a crappy gm
Title: Re: Doug Pederson, Philadelphia Eagles "Coach"
Post by: ice grillin you on September 04, 2017, 04:53:15 PM
Dig a little deeper into his personnel past. If he was making those calls as an Eagles personnel guy you'd be in here blasting away

only an eagle fan would side with Doug pederson over mike Lombardi

it's no wonder nothing good ever happens to them
Title: Re: Doug Pederson, Philadelphia Eagles "Coach"
Post by: ice grillin you on September 04, 2017, 04:54:39 PM
facts about michael lombardi
2. won his rings

yes
Title: Re: Doug Pederson, Philadelphia Eagles "Coach"
Post by: MDS on September 04, 2017, 04:56:03 PM
maybe the eagles should hire the patriots janitor away so his multiple rings can rub off on some people
Title: Re: Doug Pederson, Philadelphia Eagles "Coach"
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on September 04, 2017, 04:58:02 PM
Dig a little deeper into his personnel past. If he was making those calls as an Eagles personnel guy you'd be in here blasting away

only an eagle fan would side with Doug pederson over mike Lombardi

it's no wonder nothing good ever happens to them

Show me where I took a side.

You're in your "no middle ground" mode. It always ain't locked one or the other. Lombardi's statement was ridiculous. Pederson isn't great. He's not even average yet. He's a guy.

Ride or die with Mike L...that's you.

He's been a GM once and picked Barkevious Mingo and went 4-12
Title: Re: Doug Pederson, Philadelphia Eagles "Coach"
Post by: ice grillin you on September 04, 2017, 04:59:06 PM
maybe fans of teams that have never won shtein shouldn't rip successful people
Title: Re: Doug Pederson, Philadelphia Eagles "Coach"
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on September 04, 2017, 04:59:35 PM
Lololol

Keep diggin
Title: Re: Doug Pederson, Philadelphia Eagles "Coach"
Post by: MDS on September 04, 2017, 05:00:11 PM
lombardi is giving his hot takes for bill simmmons 2nd attempt at a website that has terrible web traffic

i wouldnt call him successful

not espn, not nfl.com, not even the athletic. the ringer.
Title: Re: Doug Pederson, Philadelphia Eagles "Coach"
Post by: ice grillin you on September 04, 2017, 05:01:33 PM
maybe I'm crazy but when it comes to football I'll trust bill Walsh and bill bellichick over you two
Title: Re: Doug Pederson, Philadelphia Eagles "Coach"
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on September 04, 2017, 05:02:46 PM
I'd trust them too

They hired Lombardi to get them coffee
Title: Re: Doug Pederson, Philadelphia Eagles "Coach"
Post by: MDS on September 04, 2017, 05:03:46 PM
maybe I'm crazy but when it comes to football I'll trust bill Walsh and bill bellichick over you two

fair enough

what does that have to do with their errand boy's opinion of the eagles terrible coach?
Title: Re: Doug Pederson, Philadelphia Eagles "Coach"
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on September 04, 2017, 05:06:06 PM
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Lombardi_(American_football)

I mean just look at that success. Dude has all-pro's all over his resume when he was a shot caller.
Title: Re: Doug Pederson, Philadelphia Eagles "Coach"
Post by: Rome on September 04, 2017, 05:48:46 PM
facts about michael lombardi
1. is shore trash
2. won his rings as a low level assistant for walsh and bb
3. is correct that doug sucks
4. was a crappy gm

Shhhh... facts are yucky. 
Title: Re: Doug Pederson, Philadelphia Eagles "Coach"
Post by: Rome on September 04, 2017, 05:52:26 PM
Lombardi being a professional failure has nothing to do with Pederson being a suckhole head coach.  He's still a failure even though Dougie is a retard. 
Title: Re: Doug Pederson, Philadelphia Eagles "Coach"
Post by: ice grillin you on September 04, 2017, 06:11:37 PM
can you imagine sucking at life and being a part of the two best dynasties in NFL history
Title: Re: Doug Pederson, Philadelphia Eagles "Coach"
Post by: Rome on September 04, 2017, 06:26:03 PM
Can you imagine going an entire 30 seconds without missing the point?
Title: Re: Doug Pederson, Philadelphia Eagles "Coach"
Post by: ice grillin you on September 04, 2017, 06:29:21 PM
Doug pederson > mike Lombardi?
Title: Re: Doug Pederson, Philadelphia Eagles "Coach"
Post by: Sgt PSN on September 04, 2017, 06:45:04 PM
maybe fans of teams that have never won shtein shouldn't rip successful people

So you're gonna stop ripping Trump?
Title: Re: Doug Pederson, Philadelphia Eagles "Coach"
Post by: ice grillin you on September 04, 2017, 06:48:53 PM
the guy that has gone bankrupt a thousand times and doesn't pay his bills?

no
Title: Re: Doug Pederson, Philadelphia Eagles "Coach"
Post by: Sgt PSN on September 04, 2017, 06:57:35 PM
facts about michael lombardi
1. is shore trash
2. won his rings as a low level assistant for walsh and bb
3. is correct that doug sucks
4. was a crappy gm

Shhhh... facts are yucky. 

(http://mjnewsnetwork.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2016/08/mr-yuk.jpg)
Title: Re: Doug Pederson, Philadelphia Eagles "Coach"
Post by: ice grillin you on September 04, 2017, 07:02:32 PM
only birds fans can think Super Bowl rings are yucky
Title: Re: Doug Pederson, Philadelphia Eagles "Coach"
Post by: MDS on September 04, 2017, 07:41:59 PM
only birds fans can think Super Bowl rings are yucky

doug won a title with the packers
Title: Re: Doug Pederson, Philadelphia Eagles "Coach"
Post by: ice grillin you on September 04, 2017, 07:44:15 PM
only birds fans can think Super Bowl rings are yucky

doug won a title with the packers

Doug pederson > mike Lombardi?
Title: Re: Doug Pederson, Philadelphia Eagles "Coach"
Post by: MDS on September 04, 2017, 07:46:42 PM
you started a stupid argument over nothing and now you are digging deeper trying to find something you can "win" on

remember:
1. nobody likes doug
2. nobody likes lombardi
3. ??
Title: Re: Doug Pederson, Philadelphia Eagles "Coach"
Post by: Geowhizzer on September 04, 2017, 08:23:23 PM
you started a stupid argument over nothing and now you are digging deeper trying to find something you can "win" on


Has anyone ever seen Igy and Trump together?
Title: Re: Doug Pederson, Philadelphia Eagles "Coach"
Post by: AO1 on September 04, 2017, 08:26:14 PM
you started a stupid argument over nothing and now you are digging deeper trying to find something you can "win" on

remember:
1. nobody likes doug
2. nobody likes lombardi
3. ??

Profit
Title: Re: Doug Pederson, Philadelphia Eagles "Coach"
Post by: AO1 on September 04, 2017, 08:29:29 PM
It's premature to judge Doug one way or the other. I mean, most of us know he's not a good head coach, but he took a rookie QB, makeshift O line, RBC, and the worst WRs in the league and turned them into a semi competent offense. I'll give the guy another year before I really bash him.
Title: Re: Doug Pederson, Philadelphia Eagles "Coach"
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on September 04, 2017, 08:49:29 PM
only birds fans can think Super Bowl rings are yucky

We gonna go find every player who ever won a ring and say they're better?

Even the dude who was inactive an entire year and never played again? Because Lombardi's ringzzz were the equivalent of a practice squadder "winning" one
Title: Re: Doug Pederson, Philadelphia Eagles "Coach"
Post by: ice grillin you on September 04, 2017, 08:51:13 PM
you started a stupid argument over nothing and now you are digging deeper trying to find something you can "win" on

remember:
1. nobody likes doug
2. nobody likes lombardi
3. Havas doesn't like homers.
Title: Re: Doug Pederson, Philadelphia Eagles "Coach"
Post by: General_Failure on September 04, 2017, 09:04:45 PM
How can you type while wearing your cool guy leather jacket all the time?
Title: Re: Doug Pederson, Philadelphia Eagles "Coach"
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on September 04, 2017, 09:16:41 PM
you started a stupid argument over nothing and now you are digging deeper trying to find something you can "win" on

remember:
1. nobody likes doug
2. nobody likes lombardi
3. Havas doesn't like homers.

Who is homering it up for Doug? You've yet to answer this.

And when is the last time you:

1. Cheered the Eagles
2. Were genuinely happy about something they did
Title: Re: Doug Pederson, Philadelphia Eagles "Coach"
Post by: MDS on September 04, 2017, 09:25:20 PM
havas is off the reservation on this but im at every game with him and can confirm he does indeed like the eagles
Title: Re: Doug Pederson, Philadelphia Eagles "Coach"
Post by: ice grillin you on September 04, 2017, 10:24:04 PM
you started a stupid argument over nothing and now you are digging deeper trying to find something you can "win" on

remember:
1. nobody likes doug
2. nobody likes lombardi
3. Havas doesn't like homers.

Who is homering it up for Doug? You've yet to answer this.

And when is the last time you:

1. Cheered the Eagles
2. Were genuinely happy about something they did

1. when buddy was the coach
2. whenever lurie builds a playground
Title: Re: Doug Pederson, Philadelphia Eagles "Coach"
Post by: Sgt PSN on November 02, 2017, 01:44:18 PM
https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/video-doug-pederson-flips-out-at-eagles-offense-after-3-and-out/

Um, ok. Don't think this remotely qualifies as flipping out, but sure.  Kinda reminds me of Stanley from Friday.
Title: Re: Doug Pederson, Philadelphia Eagles "Coach"
Post by: Butchers Bill on November 02, 2017, 06:04:30 PM
https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/video-doug-pederson-flips-out-at-eagles-offense-after-3-and-out/

Um, ok. Don't think this remotely qualifies as flipping out, but sure.  Kinda reminds me of Stanley from Friday.

Christ, that's what I say to my kids on a daily basis to get them to school.  Flipping out?   :-D
Title: Re: Doug Pederson, Philadelphia Eagles "Coach"
Post by: Tomahawk on November 02, 2017, 09:54:58 PM
I've never seen such a display of passion and grit
Title: Re: Doug Pederson, Philadelphia Eagles "Coach"
Post by: AO1 on November 06, 2017, 09:26:29 AM
Give it up for Doug

He's doing a bang up job for a second year coach. The team always gives 100%. Aside from the second half of the KC game this team hasn't been outplayed. The players love playing for him.

He looks and comes off like a dolt but he clearly has a grasp on the offense. Wentz's quick development isn't a coincidence either.

I'm not buying the SB talk. Never will until they get there. But Doug's a good coach. Bottom line.
Title: Re: Doug Pederson, Philadelphia Eagles "Coach"
Post by: Rome on November 06, 2017, 09:33:44 AM
He coaches as good as his players perform.  I swear an NFL Head Coachís job is 99% psychiatrist these days.  If you can get these millionaire meatheads to buy into what youíre selling, and you have decent talent to work with, you have a good shot to win.   

They arenít drastically different than last yearís team, yet look at the results.  Amazing job so far just herding these cats into the same direction. 
Title: Re: Doug Pederson, Philadelphia Eagles "Coach"
Post by: AO1 on November 06, 2017, 09:55:29 AM

They arenít drastically different than last yearís team, yet look at the results. 

Yes they are. They had a make shift O line, no running game, and their starting wideouts were DGB and Agholor who was a disaster.
Title: Re: Doug Pederson, Philadelphia Eagles "Coach"
Post by: Geowhizzer on November 06, 2017, 10:01:21 AM
I'm not buying the SB talk. Never will until they get there. But Doug's a good coach. Bottom line.

I just can't.  Too much disappointment built into decades of Eagle fandom to make that jump.  I'm enjoying the ride, but can't make that leap.
Title: Re: Doug Pederson, Philadelphia Eagles "Coach"
Post by: ice grillin you on November 06, 2017, 10:06:43 AM
hes awful but has a franchise qb and the best DC in the league as well as an overall good staff....but hey brian billick and barry switzer won chips so why cant this buffoon

key will be how does he handle the inevitable turnover in staff
Title: Re: Doug Pederson, Philadelphia Eagles "Coach"
Post by: AO1 on November 06, 2017, 10:16:39 AM
worst 8-1 coach ever
Title: Re: Doug Pederson, Philadelphia Eagles "Coach"
Post by: MDS on November 06, 2017, 10:54:05 AM
while i wouldnt trust doug game management wise theres no doubt he can game plan with anyone

hes still a doofus when he speaks but i can live with that
Title: Re: Doug Pederson, Philadelphia Eagles "Coach"
Post by: QB Eagles on November 06, 2017, 12:41:10 PM
BB isn't exactly Cicero. How Doug speaks is the least of what I worry about with him. I think we can throw out the "podium test".

While I'm definitely not on the Doug hype train yet, I don't see any reason to be critical while he keeps improving. He's done well beyond expectations this season. If/when it comes crashing down there will be plenty of time to rip into him.
Title: Re: Doug Pederson, Philadelphia Eagles "Coach"
Post by: Sgt PSN on November 07, 2017, 10:30:52 AM
Other than the Giants game this year, I really can't think of any games where he was really questionable with his play calling.  Maybe a few dumb calls against the Chiefs, but overall his game plans have been pretty effective and his situational play calling has been good as well. 

Is he a great coach?  Time will tell, but I'm starting to feel comfortable saying that he belongs in the NFL.
Title: Re: Doug Pederson, Philadelphia Eagles "Coach"
Post by: smeags on November 07, 2017, 10:35:07 AM
doug has shown he can coach at this level. we all shall see how this goes. one thing, these guys play for him. they have bought in.

Title: Re: Doug Pederson, Philadelphia Eagles "Coach"
Post by: Rome on November 07, 2017, 10:45:00 AM

They arenít drastically different than last yearís team, yet look at the results. 

Yes they are. They had a make shift O line, no running game, and their starting wideouts were DGB and Agholor who was a disaster.

Arguably their best WR this year couldnít figure out where to line up on the field last year.  Theyíre missing their best LB, OT, CB & RB.  How is that not demonstrably similar to the chaos that was the 2016 Eagles?

But really who gives a shtein?  Theyíre 8-1 and this guy has been a totally unexpected surprise.

Iíll take it.   In fact when is his contract extension presser scheduled because you know thatís coming. 

Title: Re: Doug Pederson, Philadelphia Eagles "Coach"
Post by: MDS on November 07, 2017, 11:22:33 AM
ehhhh lets calm down there. i wouldnt given doug an extension until midway through next season so long as this thing keeps up. hes on a 5 year deal. theres no rush.
Title: Re: Doug Pederson, Philadelphia Eagles "Coach"
Post by: Sgt PSN on November 07, 2017, 11:24:17 AM
They'll do his extension during the parade. Literally. They'll have a float with Doug signing his extension and taking questions from the media all the way down Broad St
Title: Re: Doug Pederson, Philadelphia Eagles "Coach"
Post by: MDS on November 07, 2017, 12:23:04 PM
the mummers parade?
Title: Re: Doug Pederson, Philadelphia Eagles "Coach"
Post by: Rome on November 07, 2017, 01:35:19 PM
Just to be clear... Iím not saying heís earned it yet.  But Jeffrey loves to lock him up some talent early in their deals, so...
Title: Re: Doug Pederson, Philadelphia Eagles "Coach"
Post by: shorebird on November 21, 2017, 11:34:46 AM
hes awful but has a franchise qb and the best DC in the league as well as an overall good staff....but hey brian billick and barry switzer won chips so why cant this buffoon

key will be how does he handle the inevitable turnover in staff

You think Doug is awful but Buddy was the best coach the Eagles ever had. Buddy never won a single playoff game even though he had the best defense in the league and a MVP quarterback. Think about that. He might as well been coaching Randall using a "Offense for Dummies" book. He never had another head coaching job and everywhere he went he was more a distraction than an asset. Yeah he was a great motivator and the players loved him but he couldn't head coach a Pop Warner team. Pederson has turned this team completely around in two years after Chip Kelley dismantled it. Not just turned it around, he has what is arguably the best team in the NFL. He brought in the perfect staff to develop Wentz. Yeah I'm a UM guy and have always liked Reich. When he was with San Diego Rivers had three straight 4g passing seasons. Don't know much about Filippo, but everyone says good things about what he did with McCown in Cleveland.

So other than Pederson sounding like he just fell off the turnip truck, and a very few questionable moves early in the season, what is your problem with him? Normally I'd say he's too white for you, but I've seen your comments about Wentz, and there ain't nobody anymore white or Christian than he is, so I can't say that. (Your comments about Wentz blew my mind, by the way. Never would have guessed that coming from you, even if Wentz does look like the second coming of Johnny Unitas.) So give me something "concrete". Tell me, how is it you think he's "awful"?
Title: Re: Doug Pederson, Philadelphia Eagles "Coach"
Post by: Sgt PSN on November 21, 2017, 11:36:40 AM
He never had another head coaching job and everywhere he went he was more a distraction than an asset.

Um.  Are you shore about that? 
Title: Re: Doug Pederson, Philadelphia Eagles "Coach"
Post by: MDS on November 21, 2017, 11:42:36 AM
its pretty easy to forget about buddy's stint with the cardinals...im sure he did too even before the dementia
Title: Re: Doug Pederson, Philadelphia Eagles "Coach"
Post by: Sgt PSN on November 21, 2017, 11:52:21 AM
I wonder if there's a young generation of Eagles fans right now who, in like 30 years, are going to hold Doug Pederson in the same regard as IGY holds Buddy. 
Title: Re: Doug Pederson, Philadelphia Eagles "Coach"
Post by: MDS on November 21, 2017, 11:55:05 AM
doug will have at least a playoff win so

but hey remember when buddy trash talked jimmy johnson that was better than winning
Title: Re: Doug Pederson, Philadelphia Eagles "Coach"
Post by: smeags on November 21, 2017, 11:57:55 AM
yeah but buddy spoke out against the man (nfl ownsership) and their slave network.
Title: Re: Doug Pederson, Philadelphia Eagles "Coach"
Post by: shorebird on November 21, 2017, 11:58:05 AM
Yeah, forgot that. That was embarrassing.
Title: Re: Doug Pederson, Philadelphia Eagles "Coach"
Post by: AO1 on November 21, 2017, 11:58:23 AM
Buddy is my all time favorite coach. I think even Havas will admit he wasn't a great HC. He was a great DC, but just a good HC. What he represents is why he's so loved in the city. Hard hitting, shtein talking, attitude D that just put a hurt on people. Buddy was a rebel as a coach, rebelled against the league, his owner, and other coaches. He just didn't give a farg. That's why we love him.
Title: Re: Doug Pederson, Philadelphia Eagles "Coach"
Post by: shorebird on November 21, 2017, 11:59:00 AM
its pretty easy to forget about buddy's stint with the cardinals...im sure he did too even before the dementia

Mine or his?
Title: Re: Doug Pederson, Philadelphia Eagles "Coach"
Post by: Sgt PSN on November 21, 2017, 11:59:54 AM
Buddy is my all time favorite coach. I think even Havas will admit he wasn't a great HC. He was a great DC, but just a good HC. What he represents is why he's so loved in the city. Hard hitting, shtein talking, attitude D that just put a hurt on people. Buddy was a rebel as a coach, rebelled against the league, his owner, and other coaches. He just didn't give a farg. That's why we love him.

I feel like this shouldn't have to be explained to people who are old enough to remember it, but here we are. 
Title: Re: Doug Pederson, Philadelphia Eagles "Coach"
Post by: ice grillin you on November 21, 2017, 12:00:29 PM
I wonder if there's a young generation of Eagles fans right now who, in like 30 years, are going to hold Doug Pederson in the same regard as IGY holds Buddy. 

well thats a depressing thought

luckily i wont be around for it
Title: Re: Doug Pederson, Philadelphia Eagles "Coach"
Post by: shorebird on November 21, 2017, 12:01:14 PM
Buddy is my all time favorite coach. I think even Havas will admit he wasn't a great HC. He was a great DC, but just a good HC. What he represents is why he's so loved in the city. Hard hitting, shtein talking, attitude D that just put a hurt on people. Buddy was a rebel as a coach, rebelled against the league, his owner, and other coaches. He just didn't give a farg. That's why we love him.

I don't think he was even a "good" head coach. Yeah, I loved his attitude but what do you think a coach like Billik, or Big Tuna woulda' done with that squad? Pro Bowlers everywhere and a few future HOF'rs.
Title: Re: Doug Pederson, Philadelphia Eagles "Coach"
Post by: ice grillin you on November 21, 2017, 12:01:52 PM
doug will have at least a playoff win so

so does rich kotite
Title: Re: Doug Pederson, Philadelphia Eagles "Coach"
Post by: shorebird on November 21, 2017, 12:03:16 PM
Buddy is my all time favorite coach. I think even Havas will admit he wasn't a great HC. He was a great DC, but just a good HC. What he represents is why he's so loved in the city. Hard hitting, shtein talking, attitude D that just put a hurt on people. Buddy was a rebel as a coach, rebelled against the league, his owner, and other coaches. He just didn't give a farg. That's why we love him.

I feel like this shouldn't have to be explained to people who are old enough to remember it, but here we are. 

The question is why does Igy feel Pederson is "awful". Nobody has to 'splain' anything about Buddy to me.
Title: Re: Doug Pederson, Philadelphia Eagles "Coach"
Post by: shorebird on November 21, 2017, 12:04:28 PM
doug will have at least a playoff win so

so does rich kotite

Exactly, with almost the same team Buddy couldn't do it with.
Title: Re: Doug Pederson, Philadelphia Eagles "Coach"
Post by: smeags on November 21, 2017, 12:05:05 PM
I admit I wanted no parts of Pederson when he was hired. that said he's part of the reason this team is where it is right now.
Title: Re: Doug Pederson, Philadelphia Eagles "Coach"
Post by: Sgt PSN on November 21, 2017, 12:06:42 PM
Buddy is my all time favorite coach. I think even Havas will admit he wasn't a great HC. He was a great DC, but just a good HC. What he represents is why he's so loved in the city. Hard hitting, shtein talking, attitude D that just put a hurt on people. Buddy was a rebel as a coach, rebelled against the league, his owner, and other coaches. He just didn't give a farg. That's why we love him.

I feel like this shouldn't have to be explained to people who are old enough to remember it, but here we are. 

The question is why does Igy feel Pederson is "awful". Nobody has to 'splain' anything about Buddy to me.


At this point, I think he's just being stubborn.  He dug in real deep on the anti-doug thing from the get go.  And there was a lot of things that happened last year that supported it, but outside of a few questionable decisions against KC and the 1st NYG game, Doug has been really damn good this year.

IGY can be about as stubborn as an elephant sometimes though.
Title: Re: Doug Pederson, Philadelphia Eagles "Coach"
Post by: shorebird on November 21, 2017, 12:08:38 PM
Even Kotite had a better win % than Buddy, and no one is calling him a good coach, ever.
Title: Re: Doug Pederson, Philadelphia Eagles "Coach"
Post by: ice grillin you on November 21, 2017, 12:10:30 PM
doug is a feeble simpleton being completely carried by jim schwartz and carson wentz.....seems like a nice guy tho

Even Kotite had a better win % than Buddy, and no one is calling him a good coach, ever.

yeah thats kinda the point


Title: Re: Doug Pederson, Philadelphia Eagles "Coach"
Post by: AO1 on November 21, 2017, 12:12:07 PM
Buddy is my all time favorite coach. I think even Havas will admit he wasn't a great HC. He was a great DC, but just a good HC. What he represents is why he's so loved in the city. Hard hitting, shtein talking, attitude D that just put a hurt on people. Buddy was a rebel as a coach, rebelled against the league, his owner, and other coaches. He just didn't give a farg. That's why we love him.

I don't think he was even a "good" head coach. Yeah, I loved his attitude but what do you think a coach like Billik, or Big Tuna woulda' done with that squad? Pro Bowlers everywhere and a few future HOF'rs.

Don't know about that. He turned late round/undrafted players/picks like Joyner/B&E/Simmons/Waters etc. into Pro Bowlers. His problem was more so than any coach in history he just didn't give a flying farg about offense. He took a crap team and won the East which was an absolute power house of a division.
Title: Re: Doug Pederson, Philadelphia Eagles "Coach"
Post by: Sgt PSN on November 21, 2017, 12:14:10 PM
The Eagles were 5 adequate players short of being legit contenders under Buddy.  LT, LG, C, RG, RT. 
Title: Re: Doug Pederson, Philadelphia Eagles "Coach"
Post by: AO1 on November 21, 2017, 12:16:17 PM
The Eagles were 5 adequate players short of being legit contenders under Buddy.  LT, LG, C, RG, RT.

Ron Heller was adequate. The rest of the line I agree.
Title: Re: Doug Pederson, Philadelphia Eagles "Coach"
Post by: shorebird on November 21, 2017, 12:23:35 PM
doug is a feeble simpleton being completely carried by jim schwartz and carson wentz.....seems like a nice guy tho

Even Kotite had a better win % than Buddy, and no one is calling him a good coach, ever.

yeah thats kinda the point

So you think he's awful because, in your opinion, he's being carried by the staff that he hired? Well, if he is a "feeble simpleton", then you at the very least have to give him credit for hiring good people to work around him.

I think you head is so hard that your lucky hair can grow through it. No one is gonna' call him the NFL's Einstein, but in his second year he's taken the league by storm, drafted a qb who will most likely be the best Philly has ever had, and completely turned this team around.
Title: Re: Doug Pederson, Philadelphia Eagles "Coach"
Post by: Rome on November 21, 2017, 12:24:52 PM
Buddy is my all time favorite coach. I think even Havas will admit he wasn't a great HC. He was a great DC, but just a good HC. What he represents is why he's so loved in the city. Hard hitting, shtein talking, attitude D that just put a hurt on people. Buddy was a rebel as a coach, rebelled against the league, his owner, and other coaches. He just didn't give a farg. That's why we love him.

I feel like this shouldn't have to be explained to people who are old enough to remember it, but here we are. 

The question is why does Igy feel Pederson is "awful".

Who fargin cares?
Title: Re: Doug Pederson, Philadelphia Eagles "Coach"
Post by: shorebird on November 21, 2017, 12:29:46 PM
Buddy is my all time favorite coach. I think even Havas will admit he wasn't a great HC. He was a great DC, but just a good HC. What he represents is why he's so loved in the city. Hard hitting, shtein talking, attitude D that just put a hurt on people. Buddy was a rebel as a coach, rebelled against the league, his owner, and other coaches. He just didn't give a farg. That's why we love him.

I feel like this shouldn't have to be explained to people who are old enough to remember it, but here we are. 

The question is why does Igy feel Pederson is "awful".

Who fargin cares?

I do. Because, say what you want, igy does know football, and still he has to be the only person on the planet who thinks it and I'm not really seeing any real facts to back his opinion up, other than him just not wanting or being able to admit he might be wrong.
Title: Re: Doug Pederson, Philadelphia Eagles "Coach"
Post by: smeags on November 21, 2017, 12:31:07 PM
doug didn't hire Swartz.

just sayin
Title: Re: Doug Pederson, Philadelphia Eagles "Coach"
Post by: shorebird on November 21, 2017, 12:35:17 PM
link (http://www.philadelphiaeagles.com/team/coaches/jim-schwartz/8a476a32-f62a-4c99-8cd5-35a47a600753)

He did according to Swartz's bio.

Quote
Jim Schwartz was hired by Eagles head coach Doug Pederson in the 2016 offseason and comes to Philadelphia with 22 years of NFL coaching experience, including five years as the head coach of the Detroit Lions (2009-13).
Title: Re: Doug Pederson, Philadelphia Eagles "Coach"
Post by: smeags on November 21, 2017, 12:41:09 PM
well that's what I get for listening to ike reese. he stated Swartz was hired by Howie before perderson was.

either way, Pederson has to be given his due for how this team is rolling this year.

Title: Re: Doug Pederson, Philadelphia Eagles "Coach"
Post by: AO1 on November 21, 2017, 12:48:52 PM
Reid did stupid shtein all the time. Probably more so than Doug even to this day. He only focused on offense and hired great assistants. He used to call JJ the assistant HC because he completely handled the Defense. Nobody would call Reid a bad coach. It's about perception, Reid doesn't come off like a doofus, Doug does.
Title: Re: Doug Pederson, Philadelphia Eagles "Coach"
Post by: shorebird on November 21, 2017, 12:49:05 PM
how bad is the staff going to be under this cat...he has no experience and thus no ties to anyone or cache with anyone...so who fills out the all important coordinator positions and on down

The people he hires that are now carrying him.
Title: Re: Doug Pederson, Philadelphia Eagles "Coach"
Post by: shorebird on November 21, 2017, 12:50:11 PM
well that's what I get for listening to ike reese. he stated Swartz was hired by Howie before perderson was.

either way, Pederson has to be given his due for how this team is rolling this year.



Not saying Ike isn't right, just posting what his bio said.
Title: Re: Doug Pederson, Philadelphia Eagles "Coach"
Post by: AO1 on November 21, 2017, 12:50:56 PM
how bad is the staff going to be under this cat...he has no experience and thus no ties to anyone or cache with anyone...so who fills out the all important coordinator positions and on down

The people he hires that are now carrying him.

You shore are making a big deal out of all this
Title: Re: Doug Pederson, Philadelphia Eagles "Coach"
Post by: shorebird on November 21, 2017, 12:51:41 PM
Reid did stupid shtein all the time. Probably more so than Doug even to this day. He only focused on offense and hired great assistants. He used to call JJ the assistant HC because he completely handled the Defense. Nobody would call Reid a bad coach. It's about perception, Reid doesn't come off like a doofus, Doug does.

Yeah he does, but he's nowhere near an awful head coach or a feeble minded simpleton like igy thinks.
Title: Re: Doug Pederson, Philadelphia Eagles "Coach"
Post by: shorebird on November 21, 2017, 12:53:47 PM
how bad is the staff going to be under this cat...he has no experience and thus no ties to anyone or cache with anyone...so who fills out the all important coordinator positions and on down

The people he hires that are now carrying him.

You shore are making a big deal out of all this

Ok, ok, I'll leave it alone.
Title: Re: Doug Pederson, Philadelphia Eagles "Coach"
Post by: smeags on November 21, 2017, 12:53:55 PM
haven't you heard ? whats the word ?

(http://media.moddb.com/cache/images/groups/1/5/4739/thumb_620x2000/thebird1cut-287.gif)
Title: Re: Doug Pederson, Philadelphia Eagles "Coach"
Post by: shorebird on November 21, 2017, 12:57:40 PM
...but man, go back and read the first five or so pages of this thread. Whooops!
Title: Re: Doug Pederson, Philadelphia Eagles "Coach"
Post by: shorebird on November 21, 2017, 12:58:11 PM
haven't you heard ? whats the word ?

(http://media.moddb.com/cache/images/groups/1/5/4739/thumb_620x2000/thebird1cut-287.gif)

Thunderbird?
Title: Re: Doug Pederson, Philadelphia Eagles "Coach"
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on November 21, 2017, 07:51:06 PM
The Eagles were 5 adequate players short of being legit contenders under Buddy.  LT, LG, C, RG, RT.

Ron Heller was adequate. The rest of the line I agree.

I think Alexander was ok at C too

Schad, Singletary, Solt and Darwin weren't too good
Title: Re: Doug Pederson, Philadelphia Eagles "Coach"
Post by: Tomahawk on November 21, 2017, 09:39:59 PM
...but man, go back and read the first five or so pages of this thread. Whooops!

Pederson started his tenure as the Eagles HC as a dumbfarg; the first five pages are accurate. He even seemed like a dumbfarg through the first two games of this season.

The most frustrating thing about Reid was he kept repeating the same mistake over and over. I'm not sure Doug has.
Title: Re: Doug Pederson, Philadelphia Eagles "Coach"
Post by: General_Failure on November 21, 2017, 10:18:50 PM
All I got from rereading this is Fitzpatrick was supposed to stay a Jet, and IGY and Phreak both thought Goff and Wentz would be busts.
Title: Re: Doug Pederson, Philadelphia Eagles "Coach"
Post by: Tomahawk on November 21, 2017, 10:25:45 PM
All I got from that is you're shorebird's sheep and will re-read anything he commands
Title: Re: Doug Pederson, Philadelphia Eagles "Coach"
Post by: General_Failure on November 21, 2017, 10:29:01 PM
Jokes on you, I reread threads all the time out of boredom.
Title: Re: Doug Pederson, Philadelphia Eagles "Coach"
Post by: shorebird on November 22, 2017, 12:19:24 PM
The only thing GF would do if I asked him is delete my account.
Title: Re: Doug Pederson, Philadelphia Eagles "Coach"
Post by: Sgt PSN on November 22, 2017, 12:21:19 PM
He didn't do it when any of us asked him to.  What makes you so special?
Title: Re: Doug Pederson, Philadelphia Eagles "Coach"
Post by: General_Failure on November 22, 2017, 12:25:46 PM
He's just got that little extra something that makes him special. A chromosome, probably.
Title: Re: Doug Pederson, Philadelphia Eagles "Coach"
Post by: Sgt PSN on November 22, 2017, 12:30:43 PM
(https://i.imgflip.com/1ztxvv.jpg)
Title: Re: Doug Pederson, Philadelphia Eagles "Coach"
Post by: shorebird on November 22, 2017, 12:36:34 PM
He didn't do it when any of us asked him to.  What makes you so special?

He got standards. It's evident when you read anything on this board.
Title: Re: Doug Pederson, Philadelphia Eagles "Coach"
Post by: smeags on November 22, 2017, 12:39:29 PM
(https://i.imgflip.com/1ztxvv.jpg)

 :-D
Title: Re: Doug Pederson, Philadelphia Eagles "Coach"
Post by: shorebird on November 22, 2017, 12:45:04 PM
Please don't laugh, she's probably my long lost cousin, or something.
Title: Re: Doug Pederson, Philadelphia Eagles "Coach"
Post by: Tomahawk on January 25, 2018, 06:57:12 PM
He's COY, right?
Title: Re: Doug Pederson, Philadelphia Eagles "Coach"
Post by: Geowhizzer on January 25, 2018, 10:33:08 PM
Just re-read the first few pages of this thread.  Amongst all you nancies bitching came this gem of prescience from Hbionic:

Super Bowl bound bitches.

All-in motherfargers!

All in indeed!
Title: Re: Doug Pederson, Philadelphia Eagles "Coach"
Post by: QB Eagles on January 25, 2018, 10:49:30 PM
He's COY, right?

If it's based on the season, you have to give it to McVay (turning an offense from #32 to #1) or Zimmer (doing what he did with a backup QB and RB the whole year). If you include the postseason, Pederson has a stronger case. He had the MVP playing QB for most of the season, which is like coaching on easy mode.
Title: Re: Doug Pederson, Philadelphia Eagles "Coach"
Post by: Zanshin on January 26, 2018, 07:51:17 AM
He's COY, right?

If it's based on the season, you have to give it to McVay (turning an offense from #32 to #1) or Zimmer (doing what he did with a backup QB and RB the whole year). If you include the postseason, Pederson has a stronger case. He had the MVP playing QB for most of the season, which is like coaching on easy mode.

I generally agree with you; however, one could make the case that coaching put the young QB in a better position to look like an MVP.
Title: Re: Doug Pederson, Philadelphia Eagles "Coach"
Post by: ice grillin you on January 26, 2018, 08:48:00 AM
this might be my biggest mea culpa ever....although i still wanna see him after a staff overhaul....because they appear to be loaded with really good coaches in pretty much every unit on the team

but up until now hes proven to be a fantastic play designer and play caller.....in what i guess is an homage to the andy coaching tree he makes some pretty horrendous time out decisions clock management stuff but wentz can over come that
Title: Re: Doug Pederson, Philadelphia Eagles "Coach"
Post by: phattymatty on January 26, 2018, 08:57:22 AM
i've been screaming "we scored on a flea flicker" for days.

Title: Re: Doug Pederson, Philadelphia Eagles "Coach"
Post by: Diomedes on January 26, 2018, 09:11:07 AM
silly homo stultus, that's not what mea culpa means
Title: Re: Doug Pederson, Philadelphia Eagles "Coach"
Post by: smeags on January 26, 2018, 09:19:45 AM
 :o
Title: Re: Doug Pederson, Philadelphia Eagles "Coach"
Post by: QB Eagles on January 26, 2018, 09:20:42 AM
I generally agree with you; however, one could make the case that coaching put the young QB in a better position to look like an MVP.

Don't get me wrong, he did a great job with Wentz this season. I really like the aggressive playcalling and all the different looks he's trotted out over this season. He's improved massively over his rookie coaching year. It's just an unusual year because you had those two other coaches accomplishing incredible things too. And I probably shouldn't leave out Marrone, who got to the AFC championship with Blake Bortles playing as his starter all year. Everything that team did was built around minimizing the impact of their bad QB. That can't be easy.
Title: Re: Doug Pederson, Philadelphia Eagles "Coach"
Post by: ice grillin you on January 26, 2018, 09:56:24 AM
silly homo stultus, that's not what mea culpa means

yeah you are flat out wrong...you are by no means lennie small level dumb like smeags but you also arent the intellectual genius you think or pretend you are either....also even if i was wrong and i am often i wouldnt care so pump the brakes on trying bump your IQ by correcting stupid things on the internet...its not a great look
Title: Re: Doug Pederson, Philadelphia Eagles "Coach"
Post by: Diomedes on January 26, 2018, 09:59:37 AM
worse look is tring to sound smart using the wrong latin

just trying to save you from yourself fam
Title: Re: Doug Pederson, Philadelphia Eagles "Coach"
Post by: MDS on January 26, 2018, 10:19:32 AM
nobody should have to give a mea culpa or an apology on doug

he was the eagles 100th choice of head coach...he got 1 interview and only because of andy....by all accounts he seemed functionally retarded or in the least super slow....his decision making at points last year was atrocious

but yes his play calling and design is next level. the players love him. the locker room is the best ive ever seen it. there was no way to predict that doug pederson would be a good nfl coach.
Title: Re: Doug Pederson, Philadelphia Eagles "Coach"
Post by: ice grillin you on January 26, 2018, 10:46:24 AM
nobody should have to give a mea culpa or an apology on doug

he was the eagles 100th choice of head coach...he got 1 interview and only because of andy....by all accounts he seemed functionally retarded or in the least super slow....his decision making at points last year was atrocious

but yes his play calling and design is next level. the players love him. the locker room is the best ive ever seen it. there was no way to predict that doug pederson would be a good nfl coach.

well one thing is not thinking hed win the superbowl in year two but another is thinking he would fail in spectacular fashion....wrong is wrong
Title: Re: Doug Pederson, Philadelphia Eagles "Coach"
Post by: MDS on January 26, 2018, 12:22:15 PM
sure but every single person on the planet is wrong...even the homerest among us didnt like the hire. literally.

BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

amazing job by Jeffrey and Howie

And by amazing I mean farged up

some might have been willing to give him "a shot" but that doesnt mean anything
Title: Re: Doug Pederson, Philadelphia Eagles "Coach"
Post by: Eagles_Legendz on January 26, 2018, 12:29:30 PM
nobody was excited with the hiring, and there was no indication that anyone should have been.  that being said, nothing but compliments this year for how doug has performed.
Title: Re: Doug Pederson, Philadelphia Eagles "Coach"
Post by: smeags on January 26, 2018, 12:39:20 PM
in 9days doug will hopefully be serving the biggest bowl of crow ever, and nobody will complain about eating it.

at least not until the eagles start off 3-5 next season.
Title: Re: Doug Pederson, Philadelphia Eagles "Coach"
Post by: QB Eagles on January 26, 2018, 12:42:23 PM
McNabb trashed the hire. That should have tipped us off.
Title: Re: Doug Pederson, Philadelphia Eagles "Coach"
Post by: smeags on January 26, 2018, 12:52:28 PM
McNabb trashed the hire. That should have tipped us off.

speaking of 5, I heard on the radio that he was at the game ? and didn't seem to be displaying the same joy as the rest of the stadium.

bitter sweet for him again, I guess.
Title: Re: Doug Pederson, Philadelphia Eagles "Coach"
Post by: MDS on January 26, 2018, 01:16:20 PM
when they win the odds that he drinks himself to death will drop to +150
Title: Re: Doug Pederson, Philadelphia Eagles "Coach"
Post by: ice grillin you on January 26, 2018, 01:25:38 PM
when they win the odds that he drinks himself to death will drop to +150

me and him both
Title: Re: Doug Pederson, Philadelphia Eagles "Coach"
Post by: hunt on January 26, 2018, 01:34:09 PM
win/win/win?
Title: Re: Doug Pederson, Philadelphia Eagles "Coach"
Post by: hbionic on January 26, 2018, 02:06:57 PM
in 9days doug will hopefully be serving the biggest bowl of crow ever, and nobody will complain about eating it.

at least not until the eagles start off 3-5 next season.

 :-D

Personally, if they win it this year, they would be fine never winning it again ever, and it would have been the best thing to ever happen. Ever!
Title: Re: Doug Pederson, Philadelphia Eagles "Coach"
Post by: QB Eagles on January 26, 2018, 03:01:45 PM
when they win the odds that he drinks himself to death will drop to +150

Maybe not to death but there has to be a prop bet on a #5 postgame DUI.
Title: Re: Doug Pederson, Philadelphia Eagles "Coach"
Post by: phattymatty on January 31, 2018, 10:23:07 AM
happy 50th to dougie fresh.
Title: Re: Doug Pederson, Philadelphia Eagles "Coach"
Post by: MDS on February 05, 2018, 02:50:06 AM
BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

amazing job by Jeffrey and Howie

And by amazing I mean farged up

delete
Title: Re: Doug Pederson, Philadelphia Eagles Legend
Post by: Sgt PSN on February 05, 2018, 02:56:07 AM
I hope that years from now someone will mine this quote and make fun of me because of how successful the hire was, but right now I'm not sure I've ever been more embarrassed as an Eagles fan. They hired a guy with no experience who doesn't even call the plays, on a team with an offense that isn't even good.

This hire is some amateur hour shtein. Was he even a good high school coach? At least he seems like a nice guy.

I'm friends with some Chiefs fans and they aren't concerned in the slightest about him leaving.

Wish granted. :-)
Title: Re: Doug Pederson, Philadelphia Eagles "Coach"
Post by: MDS on February 05, 2018, 02:59:38 AM
how bad is the staff going to be under this cat...he has no experience and thus no ties to anyone or cache with anyone...so who fills out the all important coordinator positions and on down

L
Title: Re: Doug Pederson, Philadelphia Eagles "Coach"
Post by: MDS on February 05, 2018, 03:00:22 AM
F. U.  Jeff.

(http://static.nfl.com/static/content/public/video/2018/02/04/0ap3000000914497_video_cp.jpg)
Title: Re: Doug Pederson, Philadelphia Eagles "Coach"
Post by: MDS on February 05, 2018, 03:01:04 AM
Personality wise Pederson just doesn't come off like a leader of men. Honestly I would have preferred Shurmer. They're both awful hires either way.

incorrect take
Title: Re: Doug Pederson, Philadelphia Eagles "Coach"
Post by: MDS on February 05, 2018, 03:02:38 AM
trainwreck

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Title: Re: Doug Pederson, Philadelphia Eagles Legend
Post by: Sgt PSN on February 05, 2018, 03:13:52 AM
Totally bland hire. He's not even intriguing because he's such an unknown. But he's not Chip Kelly, so I'm not going to hate on him until he actually gives me reason to.

Go Doug!!

I might be the winner here.
Title: Re: Doug Pederson, Philadelphia Eagles Legend
Post by: Diomedes on February 05, 2018, 07:35:52 AM
from a PFT blurb

Quote
ďYou learn if you play passive, if you play conservative, if you call plays conservatively, you are going to be 8-8, 9-7 every year,Ē Pederson said. ďEvery year. Frank and I just having that collaborative spirit to talk about things and talk with our quarterbacks and just come up with ways of keeping this game fresh and fun and exciting for our players. And thatís really where it all stems from.Ē

I find this quote revealing.  What I hear Doug saying here is that being aggressive is not just a style of play that is unusual in a field of risk-averse teams at play during a pretty buttoned-up era of the game, but that it's essentially a personnel management strategy.  He's saying, when we go for the throat, the play call is a message to the players that the coaches believe in them, it's a psychological call as much as a football one.  Doug wins the team by giving them what they want on the field.  They want to beat the other team, not just win.  They want to answer a failed pass to the QB with a successful one.  They want to score touchdowns on 3rd and 8 from 40 yards out.  Pederson routinely gives them the chance to do that, which is a signal to them that he's their guy. 
Title: Re: Doug Pederson, Philadelphia Eagles Legend
Post by: General_Failure on February 05, 2018, 08:47:24 AM
That, and he trusts the QB to do what they feel comfortable with instead of shoehorning them into his system. What a nice change of pace.
Title: Re: Doug Pederson, Philadelphia Eagles Legend
Post by: Eagles_Legendz on February 05, 2018, 09:23:02 AM
Doug is a farging champ.   Played to win.  No fear.   Couldnít ask for more.
Title: Re: Doug Pederson, Philadelphia Eagles Legend
Post by: Tomahawk on February 05, 2018, 09:44:58 AM
Doug is a farging champ.   Played to win.  No fear.   Couldnít ask for more.

Mu favorite play call of all time is the throw to the qb...such a great farg you to the pats
Title: Re: Doug Pederson, Philadelphia Eagles Legend
Post by: Zanshin on February 05, 2018, 09:48:05 AM
Doug is a farging champ.   Played to win.  No fear.   Couldnít ask for more.

Mu favorite play call of all time is the throw to the qb...such a great farg you to the pats

I said the same...it was the ultimate farg You.
Title: Re: Doug Pederson, Philadelphia Eagles Legend
Post by: AO1 on February 05, 2018, 09:51:38 AM
Doug has bigger balls than any coach in recent memory. The 4th and 1 throw to Ertz on that final drive was monumental.
Title: Re: Doug Pederson, Philadelphia Eagles Legend
Post by: Eagaholic on February 05, 2018, 09:53:21 AM
Doug has bigger balls than any coach in recent memory. The 4th and 1 throw to Ertz on that final drive was monumental.
I was just thinking that last night - that he makes big balls Chip look like raisins.
Title: Re: Doug Pederson, Philadelphia Eagles Legend
Post by: AO1 on February 05, 2018, 02:38:34 PM
One of the radio heads just broke down the Foles TD catch call: they had an undrafted free agent take a handoff, flip it to an undrafted tight end, who threw it to a qb who wanted to retire on 4th and goal in the Super Bowl.
Title: Re: Doug Pederson, Philadelphia Eagles Legend
Post by: Diomedes on February 05, 2018, 02:41:46 PM
The books about this team are going to be great.
Title: Re: Doug Pederson, Philadelphia Eagles Legend
Post by: General_Failure on February 05, 2018, 02:42:32 PM
One of the radio heads just broke down the Foles TD catch call: they had an undrafted free agent take a handoff, flip it to an undrafted tight end, who threw it to a qb who wanted to retire on 4th and goal in the Super Bowl.

This scrub-loaded roster is why they'll never win the big one.
Title: Re: Doug Pederson, Philadelphia Eagles "Coach"
Post by: smeags on February 06, 2018, 08:49:55 AM
in 9days doug will hopefully be serving the biggest bowl of crow ever, and nobody will complain about eating it.

at least not until the eagles start off 3-5 next season.

 :sly
Title: Re: Doug Pederson, Philadelphia Eagles Legend
Post by: QB Eagles on February 21, 2018, 02:01:05 AM
https://youtu.be/6zaRIMo4rGM

Canít tell for certain but I think thatís Chris Wilson he goes over and hugs right after the game ends.

Also, yet another video where Iím bowled over by how good a teammate Blount is.
Title: Re: Doug Pederson, Philadelphia Eagles Legend
Post by: Diomedes on February 21, 2018, 11:09:45 AM
here's a pretty cool rundown of all 29 instances in 2017 that Pederson went for it on 4th down...good read
http://www.phillyvoice.com/analysis-all-29-doug-pedersons-4th-down-go-it-calls-2017/
Title: Re: Doug Pederson, Philadelphia Eagles Legend
Post by: MDS on March 27, 2018, 01:06:20 PM
(https://s3-us-west-2.amazonaws.com/wp-media-theathletic-production/app/uploads/2018/03/27122819/pederson_032718-1024x886.jpg)
Title: Re: Doug Pederson, Philadelphia Eagles Legend
Post by: ice grillin you on March 27, 2018, 01:11:57 PM
how the farg did that guy win a superbowl....and you cant even use wentz as an excuse
Title: Re: Doug Pederson, Philadelphia Eagles Legend
Post by: Diomedes on March 27, 2018, 01:13:21 PM
As it turns out, he's a fantastic Head Coach at the highest level.

It's a world of wonders.
Title: Re: Doug Pederson, Philadelphia Eagles Legend
Post by: AO1 on March 27, 2018, 01:55:48 PM
how the farg did that guy win a superbowl....and you cant even use wentz as an excuse

Rope a dope

But on the real, quarter of the way through last season I stopped questioning his coaching, he obviously had a grasp on motivating players. He utilizes different formations in the spread so defenses are kept off guard. He's probably the best coach in the league at in game adjustments on offense. He gives the defenses different looks keeping them off guard. He modified the offense to fit Foles strengths. The RPO twist was a stroke of genius.
Title: Re: Doug Pederson, Philadelphia Eagles Legend
Post by: ice grillin you on March 27, 2018, 02:02:29 PM
i dont think hes going to fall on his face or anything and hes light years better than i ever thought hed be but i am interested to see how he handles the staff turnover

Title: Re: Doug Pederson, Philadelphia Eagles Legend
Post by: hbionic on March 27, 2018, 02:58:28 PM
He's got a 14-inch, coke-bottle thick cock in his pants when it comes to coaching. Nothing scares him.
Title: Re: Doug Pederson, Philadelphia Eagles Legend
Post by: AO1 on March 27, 2018, 03:16:13 PM
He's got a 14-inch, coke-bottle thick cock in his pants when it comes to coaching. Nothing scares him.

He is brazen with his calls

i dont think hes going to fall on his face or anything and hes light years better than i ever thought hed be but i am interested to see how he handles the staff turnover

Everyone...fans...media...coaches...underestimate d him. Wentz going down was somewhat a blessing in disguise. The D wasnít playing well when Wentz went down. Starting with the second half of the Raiders game the light bulb came on and they realized they couldnít rely on the offense anymore to bail them out. Everyone in the world who watched Foles those first few games were thinking now that Wentz is done so are the Eagles. Nobody took the guy seriously. The Falcons/Vikings thought they had an easy win. They were huge underdogs the entire playoffs. My concern isnít so much with staff turnover as it is the league isnít going to view him as a doofus anymore because heís proven heís a good coach.
Title: Re: Doug Pederson, Philadelphia Eagles Legend
Post by: Rome on March 27, 2018, 06:19:19 PM
I donít care if he never wins another game.  His 2017 season will go down in history for all Philly fans.  Heís a farging football god as far as Iím concerned. 
Title: Re: Doug Pederson, Philadelphia Eagles Legend
Post by: hbionic on March 27, 2018, 06:42:07 PM
It would be so awesome if he just never punted the rest of the season just to say, 'farg it'... and just really farg with teams.

Worst case, he doesn't win any games and we get next year's #1 pick and we'd all have fun polishing our championship crowns/belts all years as we watch a fun season.
Title: Re: Doug Pederson, Philadelphia Eagles Legend
Post by: General_Failure on March 27, 2018, 07:48:49 PM
He's the first coach they've had since Vermeil that's capable of learning from his mistakes. Also, he won a fargin' Super Bowl with a backup quarterback. These are things no one in the world expected.
Title: Re: Doug Pederson, Philadelphia Eagles Legend
Post by: hbionic on March 27, 2018, 07:55:40 PM
If Doug requested it, I think we should all avail ourselves to have his babies.
Title: Re: Doug Pederson, Philadelphia Eagles Legend
Post by: Diomedes on March 27, 2018, 08:26:58 PM
Our wives you mean. 
Title: Re: Doug Pederson, Philadelphia Eagles Legend
Post by: shorebird on March 27, 2018, 09:50:26 PM
how the farg did that guy win a superbowl....and you cant even use wentz as an excuse

He's a great head coach, won the Superbowl in his second year, with a second string qb. He's everything most people thought he wasn't and then some. You put too much emphasis on the look test.
Title: Re: Doug Pederson, Philadelphia Eagles Legend
Post by: Tomahawk on March 27, 2018, 09:55:12 PM
He's the firtst coach they've had since Vermeil that's capable of learning from his mistakes.

As much as I hated Pederson, wanting him fired after three games into his tenure, this is what endeared me to him the most. It''ts also a major factor as to why the Eagles didn't miss a beat when hall of famers like Peters and Wentz were lost for the season.
Title: Re: Doug Pederson, Philadelphia Eagles Legend
Post by: hbionic on March 27, 2018, 10:17:29 PM
Our wives you mean.

His accomplishments deserve for us men to find a way.
Title: Re: Doug Pederson, Philadelphia Eagles Legend
Post by: Don Ho on March 28, 2018, 01:55:52 AM
Listening to that fargwad Kraft belly aching about how he still hasn't gotten over the Super Bowl with his "the way we lost" spin makes this even sweeter.  Sproles goes down, Hicks goes down, Peters goes down, Wentz goes down and guys like Clement, Vaitai, Foles step right in and next thing you know parade down Broad St.  Truly remarkable.  Pederson and his staff did such a great job.  I brought this up before but I'll never forget how Vermeil had the birds wound up so tight before SB XV as he basically ran practice like training camp  during the two week layoff, you could tell they were beaten and done during introductions.  They looked scared, overwhelmed and exhausted.  Raiders were out all night every night and said 'hey, we're in New Orleans!  Let's party!"  You just had a feeling going into SB XLVII Doug & Co. had these guys ready. 

Oh and farg you Bob Kraft!
Title: Re: Doug Pederson, Philadelphia Eagles Legend
Post by: Eagaholic on March 28, 2018, 07:13:29 AM
I watched  a youtube cut up of the SB, and talking about Pederson the narrator put it well - "Don't be fooled by his folksy talk and easy smile, he goes for the jugular."  And yeah Don, I remember that intro to the '80 season SB more than anything else. Raiders looked like badasses and the Eagles looked scared. Amazing since they played a couple of months before and the Eagles won, sacking Plunkett like 8 times.
Title: Re: Doug Pederson, Philadelphia Eagles Legend
Post by: Rome on March 28, 2018, 12:20:41 PM
He's the firtst coach they've had since Vermeil that's capable of learning from his mistakes.

As much as I hated Pederson, wanting him fired after three games into his tenure, this is what endeared me to him the most. It''ts also a major factor as to why the Eagles didn't miss a beat when hall of famers like Peters and Wentz were lost for the season.

Werenít they 3-0 after his first three games?

Lol.
Title: Re: Doug Pederson, Philadelphia Eagles Legend
Post by: QB Eagles on March 28, 2018, 12:47:27 PM
I thought it was a clueless hire. The guy had no resume, no real playcalling history, came from an unimpressive offense, and wasn't able to describe anything articulately. He made a large number of bozo mistakes in Year 1, including some game-costers. Honestly he seemed like a nice friendly interim coach to bring in to cleanse of the palette after the sourness of the Chip experience... basically a holdover before going out and finding the next real coach after a couple years.

I underestimated his drive and ability to get better. I think he is obsessed with the details of football in the way that all the best coaches are. He approaches challenges with an open mind. We got to see behind the scenes a lot more this past season, and Doug got better at explaining his thinking too. He understands what he's doing and how to get the most out of his players.

Now he's earned the benefit of the doubt, and I won't seriously criticize him for a long while, even if he reverts to sucking balls. He brought home the friggin trophy.
Title: Re: Doug Pederson, Philadelphia Eagles Legend
Post by: Tomahawk on March 28, 2018, 02:49:45 PM
He's the firtst coach they've had since Vermeil that's capable of learning from his mistakes.

As much as I hated Pederson, wanting him fired after three games into his tenure, this is what endeared me to him the most. It''ts also a major factor as to why the Eagles didn't miss a beat when hall of famers like Peters and Wentz were lost for the season.

Werenít they 3-0 after his first three games?

Lol.

They were far and away the worst three wins in franchise history
Title: Re: Doug Pederson, Philadelphia Eagles Legend
Post by: ice grillin you on October 02, 2018, 10:50:24 AM
lol this was doug on his end of 1H run (fyi there was 11 seconds left when the ball was snapped)

"Get the first down, burn the timeout, and then have maybe eight seconds left to start taking shots into the end zone".