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Title: Jordan Matthews, WR, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on May 09, 2014, 08:01:12 PM
I absolutely love this pick.

Great job.
Title: Re: Jordan Matthews, WR, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Eagaholic on May 09, 2014, 08:04:46 PM
Ha, gives Goodell a chest bump. didn't drive thru to knock him over though. Booo
Title: Re: Jordan Matthews, WR, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: AO1 on May 09, 2014, 08:06:45 PM
Great pick
Title: Re: Jordan Matthews, WR, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: General_Failure on May 09, 2014, 08:07:43 PM
They gave up a 4th and still have two 3s. Okay, sure, why not.
Title: Re: Jordan Matthews, WR, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Eagles_Legendz on May 09, 2014, 08:08:15 PM
A little surprised it wasn't Latimer there but I like Matthews a lot.  Production + measurables and facing tons of strong coverage.
Title: Re: Jordan Matthews, WR, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: ice grillin you on May 09, 2014, 08:08:22 PM
eh.....boring

another good locker room length guy who blocks...salt of the earth

if im gonna trade up there i don't want a good possession type guy....i want a potential game breaker with big ceiling
Title: Re: Jordan Matthews, WR, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: General_Failure on May 09, 2014, 08:10:26 PM
NFL.com says:

Quote
Cousin of Hall of Famer Jerry Rice.
Title: Re: Jordan Matthews, WR, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on May 09, 2014, 08:15:28 PM
I think he's got game breaking potential for sure. Productivity baby!

Btw Chip says he's the slot guy.
Title: Re: Jordan Matthews, WR, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Eagles_Legendz on May 09, 2014, 08:15:38 PM
eh.....boring

another good locker room length guy who blocks...salt of the earth

if im gonna trade up there i don't want a good possession type guy....i want a potential game breaker with big ceiling

He's got size and ran a 4.45.  I get what you're saying but he has good athleticism too.
Title: Re: Jordan Matthews, WR, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Eagles_Legendz on May 09, 2014, 08:16:03 PM
Yeah he should play the slot immediately this year and I would think be fairly effective.
Title: Re: Jordan Matthews, WR, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: General_Failure on May 09, 2014, 08:17:52 PM
Who wants to bet zero dollars that he finishes the season with more catches than Cooper?
Title: Re: Jordan Matthews, WR, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Eagaholic on May 09, 2014, 08:19:46 PM
NFL.com says:

Quote
Cousin of Hall of Famer Jerry Rice.
     
that does not bode well. DeSean trained with Jerry Rice after the draft, and look how that turned out. Jordan Matthews is going to end up a gangsta now.
Title: Re: Jordan Matthews, WR, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: General_Failure on May 09, 2014, 08:21:32 PM
He knew Rice way earlier than Jackson did, so he probably already killed three guys.
Title: Re: Jordan Matthews, WR, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: ice grillin you on May 09, 2014, 08:22:41 PM
i have no doubt he will be productive...but hes a possession type wr....also chips system is going to make a wr like this productive not the wr...you can def say they got their guy....i just dont think he was worthy of a trade up...and its the opposite of exciting
Title: Re: Jordan Matthews, WR, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on May 09, 2014, 08:27:27 PM
Now let's hope Attouchu drops
Title: Re: Jordan Matthews, WR, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: BigEd76 on May 09, 2014, 08:29:58 PM
At Vandy's pro day last month.  Someone's got a crush

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BnO-cwbIYAATTv5.jpg)
Title: Re: Jordan Matthews, WR, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: BigEd76 on May 09, 2014, 08:40:33 PM
Quote
MoneyMarcc91
Congrats @jmattjmattjmatt my dawg! We prayed to be on same team now we are ! God is good
Title: Re: Jordan Matthews, WR, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on May 09, 2014, 08:44:55 PM
Rome's head hath explodeth
Title: Re: Jordan Matthews, WR, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: hbionic on May 09, 2014, 08:53:19 PM
At Vandy's pro day last month.  Someone's got a crush

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BnO-cwbIYAATTv5.jpg)

 :-D
Title: Re: Jordan Matthews, WR, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on May 09, 2014, 08:55:30 PM
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@alexmarvez: At @seniorbowl, Matthews woke up @SeniorBowlPhil at 5:50 am asking 4 way to get into video room. Worked like that at Vandy, too. I'm big fan
Title: Re: Jordan Matthews, WR, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on May 09, 2014, 08:56:50 PM
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@PHIEagleFans: Jordan Matthews: "I'm just going to go in and shut my mouth and get to work."

Gotta great feeling about this guy. #FlyEaglesFly
Title: Re: Jordan Matthews, WR, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: ice grillin you on May 09, 2014, 08:58:36 PM
told you....salt of the earth

chip is building a commune not a football team
Title: Re: Jordan Matthews, WR, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on May 09, 2014, 09:01:44 PM
Chip Davidians?

Smoothies = Kool aid?
Title: Re: Jordan Matthews, WR, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: ice grillin you on May 09, 2014, 09:04:09 PM
Chip Davidians?

Smoothies = Kool aid?

come for a ride on the comet kelly-bopp
Title: Re: Jordan Matthews, WR, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: QB Eagles on May 09, 2014, 09:04:12 PM
Smoothies = Kool aid?

Flight Night = White Night
Title: Re: Jordan Matthews, WR, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on May 09, 2014, 09:10:19 PM
No truth to the rumor Chip vacationed in Guyana
Title: Re: Jordan Matthews, WR, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Eagles_Legendz on May 09, 2014, 09:20:00 PM
told you....salt of the earth

chip is building a commune not a football team


Matthews was valued where he went though.  He can play.  You can talk about upside but he produced in the best conference in football and has good size and ran a good 40.  Not sure this fits the talking point of taking a good guy who isn't that talented.
Title: Re: Jordan Matthews, WR, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: ice grillin you on May 09, 2014, 09:26:55 PM
fits it perfectly actually....doesnt matter what he did in college...its how he projects to the nfl and in the league hes gonna be a solid wr who doesn't get much separation nor stretches the field but will be productive...whats really important here tho is two things:

1. length and size
2. will be great in the room and is someone who everyone wishes their son would grow up to be
Title: Re: Jordan Matthews, WR, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Eagaholic on May 09, 2014, 09:47:05 PM
you forgot

3. good blocker
Title: Re: Jordan Matthews, WR, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: General_Failure on May 09, 2014, 09:47:31 PM
Now let's hope Attouchu drops

Earlier today hbionic told me he really wants Attouchu. I'm not sure where The No-No Place is, but that's where he wants him.
Title: Re: Jordan Matthews, WR, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: ice grillin you on May 09, 2014, 09:53:02 PM
you forgot

3. good blocker

yes this too...which kind of falls into the will do anything for the team great man thing



pete prisco on the pick....i couldn't have said it any better:

Quote
I think there were better options, but Matthews is a good player. He doesn't play as fast as his time, but he will catch a lot of balls in that offense. Trading up with other receivers on the board is a bit of a mystery.

Title: Re: Jordan Matthews, WR, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: LBIggle on May 09, 2014, 09:53:52 PM
is this avant ?
Title: Re: Jordan Matthews, WR, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on May 09, 2014, 09:54:57 PM
Better than Avant if he pans out
Title: Re: Jordan Matthews, WR, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: ice grillin you on May 09, 2014, 09:57:25 PM
is this avant ?

god no....avant was a stop drop and roll guy.....matthews can move and will have some yac...he just isnt going to stretch the field

totally different body type but as far as his overall game it isnt going to be drastically different from mack...with the exception of going up and getting a ball because of height and long arms....he gonna be a productive guy but not scare anyone
Title: Re: Jordan Matthews, WR, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: LBIggle on May 09, 2014, 10:00:16 PM
as long as he doesn't have the giroux/avant falling on the ground skills anything can happen.
Title: Re: Jordan Matthews, WR, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: BigEd76 on May 09, 2014, 10:00:45 PM
Quote
AaronRodgers12
Happy for Jordan Matthews, surprised he was around at #42. Good pick up for the eagles. #Vandy
Title: Re: Jordan Matthews, WR, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Don Ho on May 10, 2014, 12:03:43 AM
told you....salt of the earth

chip is building a commune not a football team

The People's Temple
Title: Re: Jordan Matthews, WR, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: AO1 on May 10, 2014, 12:16:58 AM
Dont be too harsh with your criticism...we have to be cautious of Sunnys feelings
Title: Re: Jordan Matthews, WR, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Rome on May 10, 2014, 08:18:27 AM
Just for the record, I absolutely love this pick. 

Title: Re: Jordan Matthews, WR, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: AO1 on May 10, 2014, 08:59:46 AM
Overall I like the pick

Watched as much Matthews and Huff video as I could this morning while I was taking a dump. Matthews is bulkier than I thought. He plays like a big wr. He catches the ball really well in coverage and knows how to use his size. He doesn't get great separation. He's fast in open space but he runs slow routes.

Huff might work well because Chip knows his to use him. He is pretty average overall. Reminds me more of a RB than a wr. His mom tried to bash his head in with a 2x4...so there's that too
Title: Re: Jordan Matthews, WR, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Rome on May 10, 2014, 09:09:16 AM
In the history of the SEC there's Jordan Matthews and then every other player ever in terms of productivity.  And he did it without an excellent quarterback throwing to him. 

I'll say it again... LOVE.  THIS.  PICK.
Title: Re: Jordan Matthews, WR, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: ice grillin you on May 10, 2014, 09:21:01 AM
In the history of the SEC there's Jordan Matthews and then every other player ever in terms of productivity.

the rest of the top ten:

2. earl bennent
3. craig yeast
4. kenny mckinely
5. terrence Edwards
6. chris Edwards
7. chris collins
8. drek abney
9. dj hall
10. anthony white


tim tebow is the all time td leader in the sec


again you cant put to much emphasis on college stats....thats not how the nfl drafts works

Title: Re: Jordan Matthews, WR, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Rome on May 10, 2014, 09:55:29 AM
We should just ignore what he did on the field for four years and focus on how he performed in a cone drill in Indianapolis.  Got it.




Title: Re: Jordan Matthews, WR, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: ice grillin you on May 10, 2014, 10:46:58 AM
you arent looking at what he did on the field you are looking at his stats

should we ignore them totally....probably not....but college stats are incredibly skewed when it comes to transitioning to the nfl

production in the nfl draft means more as you move along in rounds....the earlier you draft the more things like talent size and measurables matter
Title: Re: Jordan Matthews, WR, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Rome on May 10, 2014, 10:57:51 AM
I understand it's not an exact science and previous performance in college isn't the sole predictor of future performance.  If it were then Brandon Graham would be celebrating his fourth straight Pro Bowl appearance and Jerome McDougle would be being prepped for his induction into the Eagles Ring of Honor. 

The guys they've taken fit Chip's model for players and judging from the players they've gotten in the last two drafts I'm going to give them the benefit of the doubt here.  I'm still salty about the first pick because I believe they could have gotten better value by going up a bit, but all we can do is * hope * they got it right.  Sooner or later they're bound to hit the jackpot on some of these clowns they're picking, right?
Title: Re: Jordan Matthews, WR, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: ice grillin you on May 10, 2014, 11:02:36 AM
The guys they've taken fit Chip's model for players and judging from the players they've gotten in the last two drafts I'm going to give them the benefit of the doubt here.

i have no problem with anyone doing this as long as they don't use it as a reason to kill someone else for saying these players as indivduals arent great picks

its whats going to make the next few years so incredibly fascinating...to see how this philosophy of body type and humanism versus talent and individualism plays out
Title: Re: Jordan Matthews, WR, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Diomedes on May 10, 2014, 11:20:54 AM
come on Rome, haters gotta hate it's what they do. 
Title: Re: Jordan Matthews, WR, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on May 10, 2014, 11:50:56 AM
There was a Vandy game I was watching last year where Matthews just took over. I don't recall who it was against (maybe Ole Miss) and he just dominated. I think that was the game where he was cramping really bad or something and he'd go down and out for a play and then come right back in to make a huge play. That's when I was sold on him.
Title: Re: Jordan Matthews, WR, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Seabiscuit36 on May 12, 2014, 07:47:43 AM
Saw him destroy Houston in their bowl game this year, had no clue who he was but he was making the entire Houston backfield look terrible.
Title: Re: Jordan Matthews, WR, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: BigEd76 on May 17, 2014, 12:15:22 PM
(http://prod.images.eagles.clubs.nflcdn.com/image-web/NFL/CDA/data/deployed/prod/EAGLES/assets/images/imported/PHI/photos/clubimages/2014/05-May/temppg_jordan_matthews_pc_051614--nfl_mezz_1280_1024.jpg)

igs' favorite draft pick now
Title: Re: Jordan Matthews, WR, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Sgt PSN on May 18, 2014, 09:32:22 AM
He wears his hats the same way gang people do.
Title: Re: Jordan Matthews, WR, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Diomedes on May 18, 2014, 09:43:30 AM
That can't be coincidence.  Clearly, he's too much of a risk for a billion dollar organization to tolerate.
Title: Re: Jordan Matthews, WR, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: General_Failure on May 18, 2014, 09:53:21 AM
That's the oldest twelve year old I've ever seen.
Title: Re: Jordan Matthews, WR, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: ice grillin you on May 18, 2014, 09:53:58 AM
who got the props who got the props five F T evil dee and buckshot
Title: Re: Jordan Matthews, WR, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: hbionic on May 18, 2014, 10:05:49 PM
He wears his hats the same way gang people do.

You mean he wears it black?
Title: Re: Jordan Matthews, WR, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: General_Failure on May 18, 2014, 10:14:21 PM
That's a light grey hat, dummy.
Title: Re: Jordan Matthews, WR, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Sgt PSN on May 18, 2014, 11:23:07 PM
He wears his hats the same way gang people do.

You mean he wears it black?

No, I mean he wears it Mexican.
Title: Re: Jordan Matthews, WR, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: General_Failure on May 18, 2014, 11:42:19 PM
Backwards in front of a Home Depot?
Title: Re: Jordan Matthews, WR, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Zanshin on May 19, 2014, 09:10:03 AM
hahaha.
Title: Re: Jordan Matthews, WR, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: ice grillin you on May 20, 2014, 07:20:21 AM
just look at the first word of the top four threads on this page

jordan
beau
connor
taylor

is chip putting together a lacrosse squad or an nfl team

jesus
Title: Re: Jordan Matthews, WR, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Rome on May 20, 2014, 09:07:57 AM
They should pick guys with more gangsta appeal...

Like Aaron, Rae or Orenthal.
Title: Re: Jordan Matthews, WR, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: General_Failure on May 20, 2014, 09:13:09 AM
They should pick guys with more gangsta appeal...

Like Aaron

(http://www.footballperspective.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/07/Aaron-Rodgers.jpg)
Title: Re: Jordan Matthews, WR, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: ice grillin you on May 20, 2014, 09:19:39 AM
it must just be me...i guess im insane

but yes id rather have oj simpson or ray lewis than beau taylor
Title: Re: Jordan Matthews, WR, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Rome on May 20, 2014, 09:28:55 AM
I was referring to Rae Carruth, hence the RAE.

And they already have a back that is equal to Mr. Nicole Brown.
Title: Re: Jordan Matthews, WR, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: ice grillin you on May 20, 2014, 09:37:11 AM
so youd rather have dane connor than oj simpson because they have shady as a rb...and i wont even get into the insanity of thinking shady is as good as oj....thats not even the point

i thought banners swirly lolipop was strong....chipper got this whole fanbase under his spell in like six months....im not even being sarcastic when i say how impressed i am....its unreal
Title: Re: Jordan Matthews, WR, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: phattymatty on May 20, 2014, 10:07:43 AM
please tell me you realize that they didn't choose their own names.
Title: Re: Jordan Matthews, WR, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on May 20, 2014, 11:59:30 AM
He's on a roll....let 'im go
Title: Re: Jordan Matthews, WR, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: hbionic on May 20, 2014, 01:14:18 PM
please tell me you realize that they didn't choose their own names.

 :-D
Title: Re: Jordan Matthews, WR, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: ice grillin you on May 20, 2014, 01:22:40 PM
please tell me you realize that they didn't choose their own names.

its even worse than that....the people who named them also supplied them with their genes

its not as important as the look test but the name test holds weight
Title: Re: Jordan Matthews, WR, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: hbionic on May 20, 2014, 01:29:24 PM
Aaron
Ben
Tom
Peyton
Russell
Doug
Joe


Yep, give me beau, taylor, Jordan, and Connor.
Title: Re: Jordan Matthews, WR, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: MDS on May 20, 2014, 01:48:00 PM
igy hates the the white guys like the other cf hates the black guys
Title: Re: Jordan Matthews, WR, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: phattymatty on May 20, 2014, 01:48:32 PM
reggie, randall, clyde and seth sound like a bunch of farging nerds too so i don't think discovery holds much weight.
Title: Re: Jordan Matthews, WR, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: ice grillin you on May 20, 2014, 01:52:37 PM
reggie could be the blackest name ever

jewey seth is the only questionmark name in that bunch and its not even that lacrossy

of course theres gonna be exceptions...but you arent gonna find too many dawgs named spencer or brock
Title: Re: Jordan Matthews, WR, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: hbionic on May 20, 2014, 02:00:58 PM
Lou Brock?
Title: Re: Jordan Matthews, WR, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: ice grillin you on May 20, 2014, 02:03:00 PM
with speed he was agile plus worth your while....100% intelligent black child
Title: Re: Jordan Matthews, WR, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: MDS on May 20, 2014, 02:04:09 PM
yo adrian peterson, you have a girls name

jerry rice? my uncles name is jerry. jerry seinfeld. jerry lewis. jewey jerry.

Title: Re: Jordan Matthews, WR, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: BigEd76 on May 20, 2014, 03:24:58 PM
reggie could be the blackest name ever

(http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/photos/uncategorized/2009/02/28/reggie_willits_angels_2.jpg)
Title: Re: Jordan Matthews, WR, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: ice grillin you on May 20, 2014, 03:27:32 PM
(http://thedailyplunge.files.wordpress.com/2013/07/reggie-hammond.jpg)
Title: Re: Jordan Matthews, WR, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Don Ho on May 20, 2014, 03:47:32 PM
(http://thanley.files.wordpress.com/2012/10/luceyreggie.jpg)

Unfortunatley this may have been the first Reggie.  90% of you probably have no idea who this is.
Title: Re: Jordan Matthews, WR, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Sgt PSN on May 20, 2014, 04:34:23 PM
I work with a black guy named Reggie. He's not really "street black" but he has just enough hood in him to make all the white people around here nervous.
Title: Re: Jordan Matthews, WR, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: General_Failure on May 20, 2014, 04:42:19 PM
So taller than 6'2 and doesn't pass the paper bag test?
Title: Re: Jordan Matthews, WR, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Rome on May 21, 2014, 07:28:54 AM
please tell me you realize that they didn't choose their own names.

hahaha
Title: Re: Jordan Matthews, WR, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: ice grillin you on May 24, 2014, 12:04:06 AM
I work with a black guy named Reggie. He's not really "street black" but he has just enough hood in him to make all the white people around here nervous.


lol.....so the least threatening black reggie ever will still kill any white dood?
Title: Re: Jordan Matthews, WR, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: ice grillin you on May 27, 2014, 02:55:26 PM
locked and loaded
Title: Re: Jordan Matthews, WR, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Yeti on June 10, 2014, 07:14:39 PM
Hearing good things about Jordan's work ethic. 
Title: Re: Jordan Matthews, WR, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Rome on June 10, 2014, 07:29:15 PM
BUT HIS fargING NAME IS JORDAN!  WHAT KIND OF ATHLETE HAS A NAME LIKE THAT?

Title: Re: Jordan Matthews, WR, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Eagaholic on June 10, 2014, 07:34:11 PM
lol.

Jimmy Kempski said he looks like the best WR on the team now and it isn't close. I suppose that isn't necessarily saying a lot though but it is still good to hear.
Title: Re: Jordan Matthews, WR, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on June 10, 2014, 07:51:14 PM
I'm leading the farging bandwagon on this dude - he's gonna be a badass
Title: Re: Jordan Matthews, WR, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Rome on June 10, 2014, 07:56:25 PM
I'm leading the farging bandwagon on this dude - he's gonna be a badass

He's mine, motherfarger.  Back off.
Title: Re: Jordan Matthews, WR, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on June 10, 2014, 07:57:59 PM
Fight me! Now!
Title: Re: Jordan Matthews, WR, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Rome on June 10, 2014, 08:01:24 PM
Put on your lacrosse gear, Connor.

It's go time.
Title: Re: Jordan Matthews, WR, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on June 10, 2014, 08:31:32 PM
Haha you have me confused with rjs....see his Prius is parked over there loaded with lax gear
Title: Re: Jordan Matthews, WR, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: rjs246 on June 10, 2014, 09:22:00 PM
I've coached three Conors over the last four years.
Title: Re: Jordan Matthews, WR, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Diomedes on June 10, 2014, 09:27:37 PM
I played foosball with one and his brother Jackson at the YMCA on Sunday.
Title: Re: Jordan Matthews, WR, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Seabiscuit36 on June 11, 2014, 08:35:23 AM
I got a friend named Reggie who lives down at the dump. Every other week I swing by and bring him some lunch.
Title: Re: Jordan Matthews, WR, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Diomedes on June 11, 2014, 08:37:56 AM
Reggie.  That name sounds familiar. 

WR.  Reggie....blanking on it.  He was an Eagle for a few minutes and then couldn't hang on anywhere else.

Brown?

What happened to him?
Title: Re: Jordan Matthews, WR, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Seabiscuit36 on June 11, 2014, 08:44:36 AM
Last i saw he played for the bengals for a bit, then tampa, and game over.  He actually could be a valid comparison to what Matthews is coming in, except Matthews doesnt have the knee problems Reggie had. 
Title: Re: Jordan Matthews, WR, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: QB Eagles on June 11, 2014, 08:57:49 AM
There's so much enthusiasm about this guy that I assume he'll be out of the league in three years.
Title: Re: Jordan Matthews, WR, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on June 11, 2014, 08:59:56 AM
He's on the back page of the DN today...

I think he's legit but I would be lying if I didn't think of Billy McMullen and Reggie Brown with the hype he's getting
Title: Re: Jordan Matthews, WR, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: ice grillin you on June 11, 2014, 09:07:53 AM
i think a llama could catch 60 balls in chips offense....he will be a productive wr as long as he plays here and perhpas anywhere else as well.....but the best WR ever talk is a little much

what is really hard to project and the X factor is how much does he get in the end zone...he scores 9-10 td's a year then obviously he goes to another level
Title: Re: Jordan Matthews, WR, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Seabiscuit36 on June 11, 2014, 09:46:41 AM
I'll just say, a Kid who has work ethic tends to do well immediately as a WR in this league in general. 
Title: Re: Jordan Matthews, WR, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: ice grillin you on June 11, 2014, 09:48:20 AM
pretty much 99.9% of the wr's to ever play have work ethic....you dont make the nfl if you dont

such an overrated thing
Title: Re: Jordan Matthews, WR, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on June 11, 2014, 09:56:56 AM
Grit > work ethic
Title: Re: Jordan Matthews, WR, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Diomedes on June 11, 2014, 10:01:33 AM
pretty much 99.9% of the wr's to ever play have work ethic....you dont make the nfl if you dont

Ah...no.  Plenty make the NFL without decent work ethic.
Title: Re: Jordan Matthews, WR, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: ice grillin you on June 11, 2014, 10:35:37 AM
really......they dont

do they all have the same amount of work ethic no...but they all have work ethic off the charts....you cant be one of the .00000001 people on earth who become nfl players and not have work ethic
Title: Re: Jordan Matthews, WR, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Diomedes on June 11, 2014, 10:48:37 AM
Of course you can.  It happens every year.   You can't stick in the NFL without it, but damn sure you can get in on talent alone.  Plenty of college players were the best on every team they were ever on, including college, and didn't have to work much for it.  They cruise through until they get to the pros, and then shtein gets real. 
Title: Re: Jordan Matthews, WR, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: ice grillin you on June 11, 2014, 10:58:00 AM
but you dont become the best without work ethic

forget super athletes that play high school sports and never pan out in college....do you know how many athletically gifted kids dont even play sports in high school?

Title: Re: Jordan Matthews, WR, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Diomedes on June 11, 2014, 11:07:27 AM
You don't become Jerry Rice without work ethic, true.

You do become FredEx or Titus Young, or any number of other players who were literally better football players than anyone on their team, or on opposing teams, with perhaps two or three exceptions, until they landed in the NFL.

I'm surprised you disagree.  How anyone could think that the guys drafted each year got there on hard work, confuses me. 
Title: Re: Jordan Matthews, WR, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: AO1 on June 11, 2014, 11:12:20 AM
I'm surprised you disagree. 

Lol

Heard nothing but rave reviews about Matthews. I'm happy they drafted a wr with size.
Title: Re: Jordan Matthews, WR, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: smeags on June 11, 2014, 11:14:01 AM
I've touched three Conors over the last four years.

 :sly
Title: Re: Jordan Matthews, WR, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: rjs246 on June 11, 2014, 11:14:58 AM
Lol

Seriously. IGY has convinced himself that he isn't a troll in one of the greatest cases of willful congitive dissonance in history, but he lives to disagree with people and spout contrary opinions for their own sake, even when they contradict his own previous opinions. Frankly I'm surprised that this needed to be pointed out to Dio.
Title: Re: Jordan Matthews, WR, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: ice grillin you on June 11, 2014, 11:36:43 AM
when you are wrong you are wrong

and to think a player can make the nfl with no work ethic is as absurd as it gets

Title: Re: Jordan Matthews, WR, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Chameleon on June 11, 2014, 12:36:01 PM
I am in the middle of reading "Talent is Overrated". I am not so sure the saying applies very well to rookies in the NFL. They may have been forced to go thru some sick camps, but that doesn't mean someone has great work ethic. The laziest horse runs like hell when it feels the whip.
Title: Re: Jordan Matthews, WR, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Seabiscuit36 on June 11, 2014, 12:53:04 PM
I am in the middle of reading "Talent is Overrated". I am not so sure the saying applies very well to rookies in the NFL. They may have been forced to go thru some sick camps, but that doesn't mean someone has great work ethic. The laziest horse runs like hell when it feels the whip.
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Title: Re: Jordan Matthews, WR, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: ice grillin you on June 11, 2014, 01:01:10 PM
lol
Title: Re: Jordan Matthews, WR, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Chameleon on June 11, 2014, 01:18:31 PM
Laughing on forums, Hoydas in real life.

I am right. You can infer that I am a racist all you want.
Title: Re: Jordan Matthews, WR, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Chameleon on June 11, 2014, 01:18:58 PM
I am in the middle of reading "Talent is Overrated". I am not so sure the saying applies very well to rookies in the NFL. They may have been forced to go thru some sick camps, but that doesn't mean someone has great work ethic. The laziest horse runs like hell when it feels the whip.
Title: Re: Jordan Matthews, WR, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: ice grillin you on June 11, 2014, 01:20:33 PM
Laughing on forums, Hoydas in real life.

word
Title: Re: Jordan Matthews, WR, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Rome on June 11, 2014, 01:28:42 PM
Same as in racehorses, Mortimer, it's in the blood.
Title: Re: Jordan Matthews, WR, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: hbionic on June 11, 2014, 02:58:20 PM
For a second...when this conversation turned to 'Matthews'...I sat there and thought, "Who the farg is Matthews"...then I remembered, it's the same guy we were talking about the whole time.

Maybe names aren't the best way to identify ourselves individually...maybe we should come up with another system.  :paranoid
Title: Re: Jordan Matthews, WR, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Diomedes on June 11, 2014, 03:29:00 PM
Let me guess, your new system involves nutsack juices and yodeling. 
Title: Re: Jordan Matthews, WR, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: smeags on August 04, 2014, 12:52:34 PM
i think this kid is going to light it up in his rookie season. light it up.
Title: Re: Jordan Matthews, WR, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: AO1 on November 21, 2014, 10:37:59 AM
Jordan Matthews : 44rec, 558yds, 6tds

 All WR's taken before:
 Odell Beckam Jr: 31rec, 463yds, 3tds
 Sammy Watkins: 45rec, 649yds, 5tds
 Mike Evans: 46rec, 794yds, 7tds
 Brandin Cooks: 53rec, 550yds, 3tds
 Kelvin Benjamin: 52rec, 768yds, 8tds
 Marques Lee: 13rec, 141yds, 0tds
Title: Re: Jordan Matthews, WR, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: ice grillin you on November 21, 2014, 10:45:15 AM
what stands out there is how much the nfl has changed....first round wr's used to have to wait till like year three to start putting up numbers like those....the league is a video game now

also i think marquis lee is the only wr on that list id take matthews over...of course its not 100% fair to compare the X and Y
Title: Re: Jordan Matthews, WR, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Sgt PSN on November 21, 2014, 11:06:59 AM
what stands out there is how much the nfl has changed....first round wr's used to have to wait till like year three to start putting up numbers like those....the league is a video game now

Yup.  Occasionally you'd get a guy like Moss who could tear shtein up right away, but WR and QB were 2 positions that required a year or 2 of "grooming" before they'd get significant playing time.  The mindset used to be that  RBs can start right away but QB and WR needed time to learn.  The league rules have shifted so dramatically to favor the passing game that you've got a surplus of rookie QB and WR making impacts from day 1. 

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also i think marquis lee is the only wr on that list id take matthews over...of course its not 100% fair to compare the X and Y

Eh, it's hard to say.  I think any of those guys would look really good in Chip's offense. 

Title: Re: Jordan Matthews, WR, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: ice grillin you on November 21, 2014, 11:10:10 AM
thats kind of my point...matthews is putting up good numbers in the chipstem and he has the least talent of anyone on that list

i wanted bejamin last year bad in the first
Title: Re: Jordan Matthews, WR, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Sgt PSN on November 21, 2014, 11:22:17 AM
I totally misread that comment......for some reason I thought you were saying that Lee was the only guy you'd take over Matthews.  Not sure how I jumbled that one up.....probably due to my being an idiot. 

Watkins or Beckam in this offense would give me infinite bonerz. 
Title: Re: Jordan Matthews, WR, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: AO1 on November 21, 2014, 11:30:40 AM
thats kind of my point...matthews is putting up good numbers in the chipstem and he has the least talent of anyone on that list

i wanted bejamin last year bad in the first

I'd take Matthews over Lee, has nothing to do with stats I just think he's really mediocre. In a normal world I'd rather have Benjamin over Matthews, in Chip's offense I'd take Matthews. He runs better in space and is more physical. Benjamin can go up and catch passes with the best of them but he's not as good in space.
Title: Re: Jordan Matthews, WR, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on November 21, 2014, 11:32:01 AM
I am happy with Matthews - but then again I wanted him from the get go...
Title: Re: Jordan Matthews, WR, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Eagles_Legendz on November 21, 2014, 11:39:31 AM
I wanted Evans or OBJr going into the draft.  Evans has outperformed even what I expected and Beckham is going to be insane - I think if used correctly maybe best WR in the class.

Matthews has been fine.  No problem with him besides random drops, but his ceiling isn't the same as most on that list.
Title: Re: Jordan Matthews, WR, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: ice grillin you on November 21, 2014, 11:39:39 AM
thats kind of my point...matthews is putting up good numbers in the chipstem and he has the least talent of anyone on that list

i wanted bejamin last year bad in the first

I'd take Matthews over Lee, has nothing to do with stats I just think he's really mediocre. In a normal world I'd rather have Benjamin over Matthews, in Chip's offense I'd take Matthews. He runs better in space and is more physical. Benjamin can go up and catch passes with the best of them but he's not as good in space.

thats what i mean by it not being really fair to compare the slot to the outside...benjamin isnt expected to run in space...and matthews isnt being told to go up and get balls or run down the field.....overall tho it think benjamin has a much bigger upside....matthews i think can always be really productive but benjamin can be a game changer
Title: Re: Jordan Matthews, WR, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Eagaholic on November 21, 2014, 11:41:43 AM
I wouldn't want Lee, mostly because of injury concerns. If Benjamin was a good camper type pretty good chance Chip would have taken him if he could. Nice compilation of stats SD, I've been wondering how they all compare. It also has to be taken into account that Matthews has been on a team that may by the end of the season have 100 - 200 more plays than some other teams like the Bucs, Bills and Panthers. That skews the numbers a bit, but of course Matthews was drafted later so maybe it evens out.
Title: Re: Jordan Matthews, WR, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Diomedes on September 19, 2018, 08:38:14 AM
https://twitter.com/Schultz_Report/status/1042382838027440129 19

Title: Re: Jordan Matthews, WR, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: AO1 on September 19, 2018, 08:42:03 AM
Makes sense, he knows the system and him and Wentz are tight. I was glad when they got rid of him because I thought Wentz was too comfortable throwing to him over the middle instead of trying to stretch the field, but in this current predicament he's as good as they're going to get.
Title: Re: Jordan Matthews, WR, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on September 19, 2018, 09:59:47 AM
Yep - all things considered this move is about the best they could do.
Title: Re: Jordan Matthews, WR, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: MDS on September 19, 2018, 10:26:14 AM
do him and wentz have circle jerks in church or what

https://twitter.com/jmattjmattjmatt/status/1042345095813623808
Title: Re: Jordan Matthews, WR, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Rome on September 19, 2018, 12:57:20 PM
He’s mediocre.  He’s an improvement for the time being, however.

Get well soon, Alshon. 
Title: Re: Jordan Matthews, WR, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: QB Eagles on September 19, 2018, 03:34:17 PM
Assuming his hamstring works and he's not supposed to be a #1 WR, this is fine.
Title: Re: Jordan Matthews, WR, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: ice grillin you on September 19, 2018, 05:03:12 PM
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then she got pregnant. So we always say we have a Buffalo baby. There’s nothing to do there, except each other.
Title: Re: Jordan Matthews, WR, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Rome on September 19, 2018, 06:46:23 PM
Holy shtein ouch.