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Title: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on April 27, 2012, 10:38:05 PM
(http://static.nfl.com/static/content/catch_all/nfl_image/combine/headshots/2532842.jpg)
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on April 27, 2012, 10:38:59 PM
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Strengths
Foles has a strong arm that gets him through various other hitches in his game. There are times when Foles throws the deep, cross-field out-route off his back foot -- while facing pressure -- accurately and with ease. Though he is not the most athletic quarterback, he avoids pressure in the pocket and has a good sense of how and when to extend a play to his advantage. As a deep passer he has strength but can struggle with accuracy at times. His accuracy is evident in his short-to-intermediate throws, where he can put it right on a receiver or give him the proper lead. He would be more valuable in a West Coast scheme that would allow him to make quick decisions and not be forced to unleash deep throws on a consistent basis. He is an excellent game manager, moving the ball in bunches up the field. He is extremely poised in the pocket and rarely lets a heavy pass rush rattle his throws.
Weaknesses
Foles' mobility has been his Achilles' heel and likely will be exposed even more at the next level. He is solely a pocket passer and hardly ever moves the chains with his feet. He has the ability to extend plays, but he is not going to outrun any defenders at the next level. His mechanics can slide when he improvises, although his actual passes rarely are affected. He struggles with his accuracy on deep balls. His release time is sufficient but not fast by any means. His judgment with the ball has been questioned, as he can be slow to throw and often chooses to scramble in unappealing scenarios.
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: General_Failure on April 27, 2012, 10:39:00 PM
Look Test: Baked
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Drunkmasterflex on April 27, 2012, 10:39:34 PM
Not a huge fan of this pick but Andy seems to know what he is doing with QBs.
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: ice grillin you on April 27, 2012, 10:39:50 PM
terrible pick and it has nothing to do with the guy....i have no idea how he will turn out...its the position...they could have went in so many other directions that would have helped the team in the short term

i will give andy credit in one sense...he doesnt let the possibility of his job being in danger affect his picks...either that or he isnt going anywhere until he wants to go and he knows this
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: General_Failure on April 27, 2012, 10:40:21 PM
Not a huge fan of this pick but Andy seems to know what he is doing with QBs.

The great thing is nobody else seems to know what to do with his QBs, making those inevitable 2nd round picks just a little higher.
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Sgt PSN on April 27, 2012, 10:41:17 PM
Player profile narrated by John Cryer. 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8LmSLGt8lrw

Foles goes to Camp Chucky

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u5rZvgjNJDw
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on April 27, 2012, 10:43:23 PM
McShay said that he rated number one in TD and comp % of the top 7 QBs when they were under pressure
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Sgt PSN on April 27, 2012, 10:46:29 PM
I'm with Havas.....I don't hate the player, I'm just not sure why they went QB when there are other needs to be addressed.  Unless they think this is going to be "the guy" in 2 years when Ron Mexico is gone, then I'm just not sure why they used a 3rd rounder on future trade bait.   
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Rome on April 27, 2012, 10:47:22 PM
I absolutely love this pick mostly because I knew it would drive a certain someone to the precipice of suicide.
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Diomedes on April 27, 2012, 10:48:17 PM
I love this pick.  Big doofy backup.  This will be fun to watch.
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Feva on April 27, 2012, 10:48:34 PM
Watched the QB camp piece with Gruden last week. When I saw him get up and do that stupid ass dance, I leaned over and told a co-worker, "Andy Reid just fell in love with this cat."

Ugh. Negrodamus up in this bitch...
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Rome on April 27, 2012, 10:49:26 PM
lol
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on April 27, 2012, 10:49:40 PM
Watched the QB camp piece with Gruden last week. When I saw him get up and do that stupid ass dance, I leaned over and told a co-worker, "Andy Reid just fell in love with this cat."

Ugh. Negrodamus up in this bitch...

lol

glad I missed that
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Diomedes on April 27, 2012, 10:50:25 PM
I can't bring myself to watch Gruden.
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: ice grillin you on April 27, 2012, 10:51:54 PM
gruden is barely average on the draft...but his qb camp shows are pure gold...i lol the entire time during every one of them....he is the most unintentionally funny person ever
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Diomedes on April 27, 2012, 10:53:13 PM
He makes me cringe.
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on April 27, 2012, 10:54:48 PM
gruden is barely average on the draft...but his qb camp shows are pure gold...i lol the entire time during every one of them....he is the most unintentionally funny person ever

Gruden's awesome as a commentator. Awful as a HC...which makes the QB camp shows funny because Gruden hated young QBs

If he took another HC job tomorrow he'd sign Rich Gannon
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Rome on April 27, 2012, 10:58:19 PM
The missing element on this show is Tom Jackson.  I know he doesn't do the draft usually but he actually makes Berman tolerable.  P

Gruden & Berman together is about as palatable as a jellyfish & crushed glass sandwich.
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Feva on April 27, 2012, 11:00:37 PM
He makes me cringe.

Just watch the last 30-35 seconds of that QB camp vid that sarge posted. Gruden will look spectacular by comparison.
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Diomedes on April 27, 2012, 11:02:56 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UhaehG4uWoY
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: ice grillin you on April 27, 2012, 11:05:05 PM
berman has basically followed dick vitales path and i guess it happens to all of us when we get old....but both were at one time HOF level and then steadily went into the abyss
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Rome on April 27, 2012, 11:06:47 PM
I'm in the minority here but I've always hated Berman.  He's just a cliche' regurgitating one trick pony northeastern Ivy League douchebag.
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: ice grillin you on April 27, 2012, 11:11:44 PM
he used to have encyclopedic knowdlege of the nfl that he would rip off at the drop of a dime...he was smooth looked like he wasnt even trying and having lots of fun...now like you said hes a cliche doesnt seem like he cares anymore and is a bitter angry man
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: PhillyGirl on April 27, 2012, 11:15:52 PM
nah, he was a pretty bitter man when I worked there in 1997 too.
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Mad-Lad on April 27, 2012, 11:16:40 PM
The pick doesn't bother me. Mainly because the other backup QBs are terrible. Maybe he winds up being a solid player
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Drunkmasterflex on April 27, 2012, 11:38:40 PM
This is the classic meh pick. Its not Teo, Smith, or Gocong bad but its not somethimg that is exciting.
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on April 27, 2012, 11:40:04 PM
he used to have encyclopedic knowdlege of the nfl that he would rip off at the drop of a dime...he was smooth looked like he wasnt even trying and having lots of fun...now like you said hes a cliche doesnt seem like he cares anymore and is a bitter angry man

Yep.

I used to love him on MLB and now he's awful with the backbackback.

Him and Tom Jackson were money on Primetime
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Sgt PSN on April 27, 2012, 11:40:28 PM
This is the classic meh pick. Its not Teo, Smith, or Gocong bad but its not somethimg that is exciting.

Was just thinking that while this isn't an exciting pick, it's infinitely better than the project/hybrid guys the Eagles have been grabbing around this time in the draft over the years.
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: ice grillin you on April 27, 2012, 11:45:45 PM
This is the classic meh pick. Its not Teo, Smith, or Gocong bad but its not somethimg that is exciting.

Was just thinking that while this isn't an exciting pick, it's infinitely better than the project/hybrid guys the Eagles have been grabbing around this time in the draft over the years.

absolutely...like i said its the position not the player thats the problem....which is def better than picking an awful player
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Don Ho on April 27, 2012, 11:57:26 PM
Look Test: Baked

Ha!  You are on a farging roll tonight!
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: MDS on April 28, 2012, 02:27:37 AM
he used to have encyclopedic knowdlege of the nfl that he would rip off at the drop of a dime...he was smooth looked like he wasnt even trying and having lots of fun...now like you said hes a cliche doesnt seem like he cares anymore and is a bitter angry man

Yep.

I used to love him on MLB and now he's awful with the backbackback.

Him and Tom Jackson were money on Primetime

i was trolling through old primetimes and football clips on youtube the other day and he was absolute hof level unreal back in the day. doing the nfl highlights now hes passable. everything else (draft and hr derby to name 2) hes mute button or turn it off. unbearable.

also i like this pick. they can trade him in 2 turns years for a 3rd rounder, then draft another qb and trade him for 2nd rounder. then trade him for two 4ths. itll be great, except for the whole super bowl thing.
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: MDS on April 28, 2012, 02:33:04 AM
im going to text juanny about this, hell listen to me
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: AO1 on April 28, 2012, 03:32:33 AM
I'd have been more upset with this pick if they didn't have the extra second. Still would have went OL or CB with the 3rd then go for a QB in the 4th.
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: PoopyfaceMcGee on April 28, 2012, 04:22:56 AM
Gay pick, but I'll give them a pass because their first three picks might all contribute this year.
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: MDS on April 28, 2012, 04:51:25 AM
Gay pick

lololol I LOVE FF
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: PoopyfaceMcGee on April 28, 2012, 06:16:27 AM
Sorry, I already have a :CF boyfriend. You'll have to take it up with him.
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Rome on April 28, 2012, 06:23:28 AM
(http://img36.imageshack.us/img36/3535/screenshot20120428at619.png)

You can never have enough bracelets.

And this dude reminds me of Sunshine Bass from Remember The Titans.  So there's that.
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: BobbyT on April 28, 2012, 07:54:17 AM
Starting QB in Zona in 2 years
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: phattymatty on April 28, 2012, 10:07:15 AM
haha who the farg is this guy.
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: ice grillin you on April 28, 2012, 11:49:11 AM
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Greg Cosell, senior producer of NFL Films, scouted Foles this way: “Arm speed slow at this point. Negative impact on velocity. Did not drive the ball on few intermediate throws or sideline throws. Once in a while saw an NFL throw with anticipation + some snap. Major projection based on skill set evaluation + mental acumen.”
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Mad-Lad on April 28, 2012, 11:49:52 AM
Starting QB in Zona in 2 years

For a 2nd rounder and Patrick Peterson
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Drunkmasterflex on April 28, 2012, 12:14:42 PM
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Greg Cosell, senior producer of NFL Films, scouted Foles this way: “Arm speed slow at this point. Negative impact on velocity. Did not drive the ball on few intermediate throws or sideline throws. Once in a while saw an NFL throw with anticipation + some snap. Major projection based on skill set evaluation + mental acumen.”

Hence why he is a 3rd and not a 1st round pick.

I love Cosell's evaluations. 
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: ice grillin you on April 28, 2012, 12:18:38 PM
hence why he was a terrible pick at that point...the only possible way you could justify taking him is if you thought he was gonna up grade the back up qb position next year...and that clearly isnt happening
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Drunkmasterflex on April 28, 2012, 12:21:09 PM
I wouldn't go as far to say he is terrible, but they certainly could have done better. 
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on April 28, 2012, 12:22:20 PM
I wasn't a fan yesterday and after reading more and thinking on it more...I like it even less.
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Sgt PSN on April 28, 2012, 07:15:11 PM

First Henery last year, now Foles this year.  What is with this team drafting dudes who look like Napoleon Dynamite?

Foles

(http://a.espncdn.com/media/motion/2012/0423/dm_120423_nfl_fruden_camp_foles.jpg)

Henery

(http://www.twarren10pro.com/PhillySports/UserImages/Alex_Henery.jpg)

Dynamite

(http://www.moviepicturedb.com/pictures/10_03/2004/374900/l_374900_dff5d330.jpg)
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: ice grillin you on April 28, 2012, 07:17:17 PM
all white middle americans look the same
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: AO1 on May 21, 2012, 09:29:24 AM
signed...4 year deal...shocking.
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: AO1 on December 10, 2012, 07:25:14 AM
Everyone onboard the Foles train? I was iffy on him but I turned a corner on him yesterday. You know who he reminds me of? Eli Manning. Goofy looking, big arm, tall, tough, limited mobility [he's less mobile than Eli is]...he's white. I'd really like to see what he can do with an O-line that can give him some protection and an offseason to work with his #1 offense.

Not only that, but igy and mds hate him so that is all the more incentive to want him to suceed.

Go white boy go white boy go.
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Rome on December 10, 2012, 07:35:25 AM
^ perfect post ^
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Tomahawk on December 10, 2012, 08:08:40 AM
I'm not completely sold on him, but since this is such a weak class for QBs, the Eagles might as well draft OL and D, and let Foles audition next year.
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: SunMo on December 10, 2012, 08:14:23 AM
he reminds me of bobby hoying
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Zanshin on December 10, 2012, 08:20:22 AM
People keep saying that, but other than being a middle-round pick getting a chance, I don't really see the direct comparison. The jury is still very much out, but Foles looks much more poised than Hoying did. Hoying looked more athletic. They're both sort of non-descript white pocket passers who were drafted without a ton of buzz, so that's an easy connection to make...but they don't really "play" the same.
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: AO1 on December 10, 2012, 08:23:11 AM
I'm not completely sold on him, but since this is such a weak class for QBs, the Eagles might as well draft OL and D, and let Foles audition next year.

Nobody is or should be completely sold on Foles. But...he has a big arm, composure, and was clutch yesterday. He's cut back on the ugly throws and took some shots yesterday. He's young and progressing which is the important thing. He deserves a chance to succeed.

Draft the best OT you can and see what Foles can do with time. Even if Peters comes back full strength he'll be 32 so his time is limited his replacement needs to be sooner rather than later.
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Diomedes on December 10, 2012, 08:25:31 AM
for the haters

(http://3432-philly.voxcdn.com/files/2012/10/nick-foles-blingee.gif)
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: AO1 on December 10, 2012, 08:27:13 AM
haha
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: BobbyT on December 10, 2012, 08:58:09 AM
Everyone onboard the Foles train? I was iffy on him but I turned a corner on him yesterday. You know who he reminds me of? Eli Manning. Goofy looking, big arm, tall, tough, limited mobility [he's less mobile than Eli is]...he's white. I'd really like to see what he can do with an O-line that can give him some protection and an offseason to work with his #1 offense.

Not only that, but igy and mds hate him so that is all the more incentive to want him to suceed.

Go white boy go white boy go.

Ditto
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: reese125 on December 10, 2012, 09:18:40 AM
why does everyone see 1 game against the worst passing d in the league and get so excited?

this has the beautiful makings of a hoying feeley kolb sandwhich
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: AO1 on December 10, 2012, 09:26:25 AM
why does everyone see 1 game against the worst passing d in the league and get so excited?

this has the beautiful makings of a hoying feeley kolb sandwhich

Again...I don't see anyone getting overly excited. What I do see is a spec of optimism in a season full of shtein. Maybe he's Hoying, maybe he's not, but at least there's something there to mold.
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: ice grillin you on December 10, 2012, 09:58:15 AM
foles play this season has no bearing on drafting a qb...even if he was playing horrendous you dont draft a qb in the first round as there isnt a worthy candidate...and if he continues to play ok you still might draft qb somewhere along the way if a guy you really like is available
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: AO1 on December 10, 2012, 10:11:57 AM
I'd take Foles over RGIII and Luck at this point. He'll win a minimum of 3 Superbowls over the next 5 seasons at this point.
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Zanshin on December 10, 2012, 10:34:47 AM
I'm excited because Foles isn't Vick. Good enough for now.
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: ice grillin you on December 10, 2012, 10:43:54 AM
I'm excited because Foles isn't Vick. Good enough for now.

theres no emotion more powerful than hope

I'd take Foles over RGIII and Luck at this point. He'll win a minimum of 3 Superbowls over the next 5 seasons at this point.

unlikely
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: hbionic on December 10, 2012, 01:11:05 PM
I'm just happy the dude is a tall QB.

I think half of the QB follies we've seen are fixed with his height. We'll see less turn overs and less sacks due to faster opportunities to get rid of the ball.

I'm in like flynn.

Also, Nick Foles is goofy-sexy.
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: ice grillin you on December 10, 2012, 02:01:01 PM
i dont know how hes gonna end up as a qb but his poise is certainly impressive....after the avant catch when they had to spike the ball he actually went up to the line and took the time to look left down the line of scrimmage then a full turn to look right down the scrimmage and then the spike...a lot of veteran qb's wouldnt have done that with under five seconds left...real guts were shown there
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: SunMo on December 10, 2012, 02:01:57 PM
apparently he's audibling like a mofo and making checks that a veteran qb would be making
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Rome on December 10, 2012, 02:30:20 PM
He doesn't seen to ever get rattled.  He has full command of the offense too.

It could be an illusion and let's not forget Tampa was butt naked last in pass defense but he looked really good yesterday despite having to run for his life when he wasn't getting smashed to the ground.

I'm hopeful...
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: SunMo on December 10, 2012, 02:39:54 PM
its impossible to forget that since every know-it-all fan and journalist has brought it up in the past 24 hours
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on December 10, 2012, 03:06:21 PM
I was impressed by his play yesterday. I like the command he's shown audibling and reading defenses. Last ranked pass D or not he is a rookie who identified weaknesses and called routes to capitalize on them.

He also succeeded in his four game quest to get Brent Celek killed. I wondered if SD did a first down dance when that happened.
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: General_Failure on December 10, 2012, 03:49:30 PM
its impossible to forget that since every know-it-all fan and journalist has brought it up in the past 24 hours

Sure, but did you know that until yesterday the Phillies had a win more recently than the Eagles? And that DeSean Jackson was hurt? And that Andy Reid is the winningest coach in Eagles history? And and and and...
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Sgt PSN on December 10, 2012, 04:21:11 PM
i dont know how hes gonna end up as a qb but his poise is certainly impressive....after the avant catch when they had to spike the ball he actually went up to the line and took the time to look left down the line of scrimmage then a full turn to look right down the scrimmage and then the spike...a lot of veteran qb's wouldnt have done that with under five seconds left...real guts were shown there

Everything I've heard and read about him is that he's got a really high football IQ.  Agree on the poise too, but that was evident even when he stepped in for Vick against Dallas.  He's never looked like the game is too big for him, even when making typical rookie mistakes. 

Not gonna lie, I'm excited to watch him play out the last few games of the year just to see if/how he improves.  There's not really anything else to root for at this point, so I might as well hope that I'm watching the beginning of an excellent career.  It's better than being completely down on this team like most of us have been for the last few months/years/decades*. 

*excludes homer J and Easy
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: PoopyfaceMcGee on December 11, 2012, 01:10:38 PM
I'd take Foles over RGIII and Luck at this point. He'll win a minimum of 3 Superbowls over the next 5 seasons at this point.

I was thinking more along the lines of a minimum of 5 Superbowls over the next 3 seasons.
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: hbionic on December 11, 2012, 01:21:01 PM
That is definitely more accurate.
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: AO1 on December 24, 2012, 12:20:49 PM
Foles broke his hand in yesterdays game. Done for the season. Vick is starting against the Giants:

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/12/24/nick-foles-suffers-broken-hand-vick-expected-to-start-vs-giants/
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Munson on December 24, 2012, 12:31:14 PM
wasn't it his throwing hand? How the hell did he keep throwing the ball after that
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: General_Failure on December 24, 2012, 12:39:24 PM
Broken bones in your hand don't really bother you until an hour or two after it breaks.
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Rome on December 24, 2012, 12:46:24 PM
So he almost engineered a comeback win with a broken farging hand?

Yeah, get rid of him for sure.

Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: General_Failure on December 24, 2012, 01:09:20 PM
I guess we can forgive one or two off his not great passes at the end of the game, but only because it's Christmas.
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on December 24, 2012, 01:47:40 PM
too bad we never had a QB play with a broken bone before....oh, wait
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Rome on December 24, 2012, 01:50:51 PM
your affection/borderline obsession for mcnabb is hilarious and honestly more than a little creepy.

he's gone, cupcake.

move on.

 :-*
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: DH on December 24, 2012, 02:24:05 PM
technically, his hand was broken, but according to the fat man, it was a hairline fracture in one bone in the hand. playing with a "broken hand" sounds tough, but it didnt get run over by a mac truck, so let's not make him out to be a hero because he actually played in the 2nd half.
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: General_Failure on December 24, 2012, 02:33:00 PM
He should have pulled a Ronnie Lott and cut the whole hand off.
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on December 24, 2012, 02:39:45 PM
your affection/borderline obsession for mcnabb is hilarious and honestly more than a little creepy.

he's gone, cupcake.

move on.

 :-*

lol - just trying to slow the canonization of Saint Nick
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: General_Failure on December 24, 2012, 03:14:18 PM
On Christmas? You icehole.
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on December 24, 2012, 03:21:12 PM
Bah humbug!

EbeneezerPhreak54?
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: General_Failure on December 24, 2012, 03:56:37 PM
Scrooge McNabb.
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: MDS on December 24, 2012, 08:18:16 PM
id rather have nick foles with a broken hand than donovan mcnabb 25 and healthy
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: hbionic on December 24, 2012, 08:45:40 PM
haha...yeah right, other than worm burners, you knew 'we' were always in the game because of that guy.
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: JackStraw on January 13, 2013, 11:04:31 AM
After watching Copernicus destroy the fudge packers last night anyone else think Foles is destined for more than mere clipboard greatness in today's nfl? Yes, their O line drafted up nicely as well but farg, what a performance.

 Sheesh, it's going to be a long haul for this team.
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Sgt PSN on January 16, 2013, 04:08:03 PM
OMGCHIPKELLYLOVESNICKFOLES (http://www.csnphilly.com/football-philadelphia-eagles/eagles-talk/Chip-Kelly-once-was-in-awe-of-Nick-Foles?blockID=824011&feedID=704&awid=6169865514505141467-689)
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Don Ho on January 16, 2013, 04:17:41 PM
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Foles, who started the last six games of 2012 for the Eagles, is big and accurate but slow and lumbering and certainly doesn’t fit the model of a sleek, fast, mobile Kelly-style quarterback

NEXT!
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: General_Failure on January 16, 2013, 04:55:01 PM
Who's going to give up a 2nd rounder for him? I mean, as weak as this year's draft is supposed to be, maybe someone will, but I can't imagine who.
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Seabiscuit36 on January 16, 2013, 05:52:49 PM
Andy
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Rome on December 03, 2013, 06:32:13 PM
I'm actually kinda disappointed in this thread.  I thought for sure there'd be more insanity here but most of the comments were sane and rational.

Oh, and I miss PG.   That has nothing to do with anything but she posted in this thread and this place could use her around more.

FF & Feva too.
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Geowhizzer on December 03, 2013, 07:29:53 PM
I'm actually kinda disappointed in this thread.  I thought for sure there'd be more insanity here but most of the comments were sane and rational.

Oh, and I miss PG.   That has nothing to do with anything but she posted in this thread and this place could use her around more.

FF & Feva too.

What, you don't like the Todd & Igy Show?
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on December 03, 2013, 08:32:03 PM
Tell me to bring their asses back!

DH needs to post more too
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Diomedes on December 03, 2013, 08:34:19 PM
I miss MMH.
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on December 03, 2013, 09:53:35 PM
Yeah me too. He's a good dude
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: MDS on December 04, 2013, 03:00:46 AM
im not gonna pretend to know EVERYTHING, but judging from her facebook pg has gone off the reservation
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: ice grillin you on December 04, 2013, 06:45:05 AM
lolol.....what did she do
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Zanshin on December 04, 2013, 08:22:01 AM
Tell me to bring their asses back!


Okay, I'll tell you to bring their asses back, mostly because I'm curious to see how you'd go about it.

Also, I miss gthistle.
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Seabiscuit36 on December 04, 2013, 08:29:27 AM
lolol.....what did she do
She wears camo now, watchout
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Zanshin on December 04, 2013, 08:40:04 AM
So, what happened to a lot of the regulars? Did they wise up and leave? Was there drama that led to an exodus on here that I missed?

I remember the nonsense when FF left, but don't remember any other major board drama. I know some of the gang on Facebook, but I could never tell if not posting here was purposeful or whether they just got bored of it.

This all leads me to believe that there's a little something wrong with me that I keep popping back every now and again, but that's fairly obvious.
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: ice grillin you on December 04, 2013, 08:46:15 AM
who would post something to 15 people when you can post it to 300?
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Zanshin on December 04, 2013, 09:01:41 AM
Everyone participating in this thread, apparently.
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: MDS on December 04, 2013, 12:35:47 PM
lolol.....what did she do

i think that marriage ended real badly and she just seems like a crazy person now.
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: hbionic on December 04, 2013, 12:43:39 PM
This is a news flash.

Also another news flash...I will never leave you guys.

Also, I also miss gthistle. She was cool.
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Zanshin on December 04, 2013, 01:26:30 PM
Nice. Did you see that I reviewed your real estate business the other day? Not sure if it notifies you about that. Nothing too embarrassing, believe it or not.
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Seabiscuit36 on December 04, 2013, 01:27:19 PM
I miss Lady_Gray
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on December 04, 2013, 01:36:37 PM
whatever happened to wingnut?
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Seabiscuit36 on December 04, 2013, 01:51:56 PM
http://www.concretefield.info/forum/index.php?action=mlist;sort=posts;start=0;desc

There's some impressive post counts in there
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: hbionic on December 04, 2013, 02:19:35 PM
Nice. Did you see that I reviewed your real estate business the other day? Not sure if it notifies you about that. Nothing too embarrassing, believe it or not.

I did see it. I was laughing when I read it.  I enjoyed it. It's subtle humor perfectly puts a little contrast on what otherwise is a boring, and lifeless business page.

Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Munson on December 04, 2013, 03:34:56 PM
So, what happened to a lot of the regulars? Did they wise up and leave? Was there drama that led to an exodus on here that I missed?

I remember the nonsense when FF left, but don't remember any other major board drama. I know some of the gang on Facebook, but I could never tell if not posting here was purposeful or whether they just got bored of it.

This all leads me to believe that there's a little something wrong with me that I keep popping back every now and again, but that's fairly obvious.

People got sick of IGY and Todd taking over every thread, especially when it was to talk for 3 pages about the imaginary trailer park I live in.
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: General_Failure on December 04, 2013, 03:46:08 PM
We should add an ignore feature and an entire section of the board where people aren't allowed to be dicks. That'll fix it.
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: hbionic on December 04, 2013, 03:54:57 PM
That would just leave me, you, and Yeti.
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: General_Failure on December 04, 2013, 03:56:36 PM
Who?
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Diomedes on December 04, 2013, 05:21:04 PM
People got sick of IGY and Todd

Munron is right.  I know for a fact that we lost several regular contributors because these two hungry hungry hippos had taken over.

I wish I could leave too, but even in its current, befouled and pathetic state, :CF is by far the best group of Eagles fans on the internets.  I've tried other places but I swear to God I hate them all.  Terrible people, football fans.  Ignorant, stupid, circle jerking fools, Eagles fans.  So I'm stuck here until GF has finally had enough and shuts us all down.

In conclusion, ban the farging hippos.
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: shorebird on December 06, 2013, 02:24:55 PM
Reasons why I love Nick Foles.
He's white.
He sees the field well.
He's white.
He gets rid of the ball quick.
He's white.
He's accurate.
He's white.
He's smart and makes good decisions.
He's white.
He can run just enough to make it work/get a 1st down.
He's white.
He protects the ball well, has yet to through a int.
He's white.
Igor hates him because he's white.
He's white.
He doesn't have a Favre type strong arm but can go deep because he sees the field well enough and can get the ball out quick enough to hit the open man forty or more yards down the field.
He's white.
He stays in the pocket and can step up to make the pass. He doesn't make two reads and then bail out like Vick.
He's white.
He's the one big reason why this team might actually make the playoffs.
Did I mention that he's white?

Reason why I love CF.
...
Oh well, I tried.

farg you bitches. Yeah I was pissed that igor and MDS once again tried to turn my comments and the Vick thread into something it wasn't, a racist related political down with the white man democrat bitch and moan session. I shouldn't let anyone keep me away from something I for some unknown reason like. Plus...Dio is right...all the other message boards suck. 
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: QB Eagles on December 30, 2013, 06:49:02 AM
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Foles finished with a passer rating of 119.1, which was the best passer rating in the NFL this season. It was also the 3rd best passer rating in the history of the NFL. According to the Eagles, Foles is the only player in NFL history to throw more than 20 TDs (he had 27) and 2 or fewer INTs. He also had the best TD:INT ratio (13.5 to 1).
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Zanshin on December 30, 2013, 10:26:10 AM
Pretty amazing, all things considered. Hated watching Vick anyway, so this was icing on the cake.
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: NC_Eagle on December 30, 2013, 11:02:35 AM
Not sure what to make of Nick. Not the optimum QB for Chip's ideal offense, but he's still only a 2nd year player, who's been putting up consistently good numbers and doesn't give up the ball much at all. And the 7 TDs...what's up with that.

Probably not going to be here for long, but in the right system ('West Coast' short/medium dink and dunk) I think he can have some success.
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Eagaholic on December 30, 2013, 11:22:21 AM
going into yesterday Nick had the highest QB rating and was putting a up better TD to pass ratio than Payton. You obviously at this point have to keep him as the QB of the future. No way I'd trade him for the #1 pick this year.
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: BigEd76 on December 30, 2013, 10:02:55 PM
He created a new Twitter handle an hour ago (NFoles_9) and already has 20,000 followers
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: NC_Eagle on December 31, 2013, 12:25:27 AM
Saw a clip of Eric Allen saying that he put Foles as his #2 MVP pick behind Payton. Not biased at all I'm sure.  :paranoid

They also put up a graphic that said when the Cowboys rushed more than 5 players yesterday Foles passed for 81%. That doesn't seem right?
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: General_Failure on December 31, 2013, 12:32:20 AM
He got bailed out on some really awful passes, so sure. Why not. Next week we'll just say he threw for 500 and ran for 250 against the Saints.
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Don Ho on December 31, 2013, 05:42:06 AM
They also put up a graphic that said when the Cowboys rushed more than 5 players yesterday Foles passed for 81%. That doesn't seem right?

Really?  Wow.  Seemed like he was constantly under pressure - both from the pass rush and his inability to get rid of the football. 
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: shorebird on December 31, 2013, 07:58:10 AM
They also put up a graphic that said when the Cowboys rushed more than 5 players yesterday Foles passed for 81%. That doesn't seem right?

??? I can't believe that.

As far as not getting rid of the ball fast enough, that's the first time I've seen that. I couldn't see on tv, were the receivers covered or was he just not seeing them because he was running for his life?
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: phillycrew on December 31, 2013, 08:23:55 AM
They also put up a graphic that said when the Cowboys rushed more than 5 players yesterday Foles passed for 81%. That doesn't seem right?

??? I can't believe that.

As far as not getting rid of the ball fast enough, that's the first time I've seen that. I couldn't see on tv, were the receivers covered or was he just not seeing them because he was running for his life?
  Receivers were covered.  There was one time he rolled right and DeSean had motioned to the left and he missed seeing it.  It would have been an across the body throw going the opposite way so I'm not sure the coaches would have wanted him trying that kind of throw.  Anyone else surprised that they are bringing Brad Smith out for the trick plays and not using Vick?
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Diomedes on December 31, 2013, 09:00:07 AM
Why risk Vick's health?  You're gonna need him if Foles gets hurt.  Smith has been a nice addition, hasn't he?
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: ice grillin you on December 31, 2013, 10:05:57 AM
They also put up a graphic that said when the Cowboys rushed more than 5 players yesterday Foles passed for 81%. That doesn't seem right?

??? I can't believe that.

As far as not getting rid of the ball fast enough, that's the first time I've seen that. I couldn't see on tv, were the receivers covered or was he just not seeing them because he was running for his life?
  Receivers were covered.  There was one time he rolled right and DeSean had motioned to the left and he missed seeing it.  It would have been an across the body throw going the opposite way so I'm not sure the coaches would have wanted him trying that kind of throw.  Anyone else surprised that they are bringing Brad Smith out for the trick plays and not using Vick?

not true....i watched the all 12 and people were open a lot....especially the te's...now it definitely wasnt all foles fault but clearly he was very hesistant from the start and had trouble with getting rid of the ball on quick drops all night....

now when he had time and when he moved the pocket he was incredibly accurate....the most impressive thing for me was his ability to use his feet to buy some time to let guys get open and also to acquire better throwing angles....he obviously didnt have quick or scrambling feet but he had very intelligent feet
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Diomedes on December 31, 2013, 10:18:52 AM
From the beginning he's been able to step forward into the pocket, or shift laterally just a step or two, while keeping his eyes downfield.  It helps to be 6'6".  It also helps to not be able to dazzle by scrambling; Vick and others can't stick in the pocket because they can run--or they think they can--so they bail too soon and in the long run, that doesn't work in the NFL.
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Sgt PSN on December 31, 2013, 10:33:06 AM
Foles does seem to buckle a bit when the defense gets quick pressure.  But a lot of QBs do. He's about 16 starts under his belt now so you can only hope that moving forward he's going to learn to adjust to it and make some better presnap reads and audibles.

The difference between Foles on Sunday and Foles vs Dallas in Oct, IMO, is that Foles was thrown completely off his game by pressure in the 1st game and was missing everything, even when he had time to throw. This time, he still got flustered by pressure but would shake it off and get the ball to the open man on the next. 
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: NC_Eagle on December 31, 2013, 10:54:33 AM
Found the Foles clip on ESPN: //espn.go.com/video/clip?id=10217852  "MVP Watch: Week 17"

MVP Watch: Week 17 (http://espn.go.com/video/clip?id=10217852)

Can't get the URL to work...
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Diomedes on December 31, 2013, 10:55:58 AM
my browser is broke

OR

you suck at links
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on December 31, 2013, 11:15:37 AM
When he's got pressure in his face is when he seems to look at the rush and not down field...which isn't entirely bad because I would prefer he take a sack and not throw up some trashy miracle and it end up being picked.

Once he's able to adjust to have the heat up the middle he will be much better. When and if they do get after him Chip needs to be quicker to move the pocket
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Tomahawk on December 31, 2013, 11:20:57 AM
I'd rather he keep is eyes downfield. To his credit, Foles doesn't seem to have the gunslinger mentality...might have something to do with his weak arm
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Diomedes on December 31, 2013, 11:23:50 AM
My arm is stronger than his arm.  And I'm blacker, too.  For these reasons and especially the latter, the hippos prefer me.
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: shorebird on December 31, 2013, 04:27:14 PM
Yeah, his arm strength leaves a bit to be desired, but he makes up for it with accuracy, and can still get the ball downfield when he sees guys open. McNabb had a cannon, but was inaccurate more than not. Vick, strong arm, but no one will call him an accurate passer. In the short time I've seen Foles, he's twice as accurate as either of the other two.
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: shorebird on December 31, 2013, 04:37:22 PM
Jaws disagrees with Collingsworth on Foles and how he deals with pass rush (http://www.philly.com/philly/blogs/sports/eagles/Ron-Jaworski-disagrees-with-Cris-Collinsworths-assessment-of-Nick-Foles-talks-Drew-Brees.html)

Jaws discusses some of the points just made in this thread.

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"I have great respect for Cris Collinsworth," said Jaworski, "but I did not see Nick Foles losing his vision down field. And it’s one of the things I’ve studied on Nick all season long.

Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Don Ho on December 31, 2013, 05:12:22 PM
I'd rather he keep is eyes downfield. To his credit, Foles doesn't seem to have the gunslinger mentality...might have something to do with his weak arm

Good point.  Imagine what Stafford or Romo would have done on that third down when he just slid down and took the sack to keep the clock running.  Guaranteed disaster.
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: shorebird on December 31, 2013, 05:19:28 PM
I'd rather he keep is eyes downfield. To his credit, Foles doesn't seem to have the gunslinger mentality...might have something to do with his weak arm

Good point.  Imagine what Stafford or Romo would have done on that third down when he just slid down and took the sack to keep the clock running.  Guaranteed disaster.

I agree. What kind of pressure was Orton under when he threw behind Austin on Boykin's int to end the game? You could say he pulled a Romo.
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: NC_Eagle on January 01, 2014, 12:41:47 AM
I was doing some searching around the net about QBs and arm strength, and came across a CBS article from last year:

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"The whole arm strength thing has gotten overplayed," said San Diego quarterback Philip Rivers, "and it starts at the combine, where the 40-yard dash is overdone. I mean, how many times do you get in that kind of stance for a 40-yard straight?

"I think arm strength certainly can help you. The more you have it can help you on certain throws and in tight windows. Ultimately, though, a lot of guys make up for it with timing -- a guy who gets the ball out of his hand quickly or who knows where to go with the football. A lot of times anticipation can make up for a guy who can throw it 80 yards.

"I've always said there's something about being able to put 'zip' on the ball -- a guy who can gun it in a window. That's certainly an asset that some have more than others. But the guy who can throw it 85 yards? I've never seen anyone get an opportunity to throw it that far. Most 'go' routes are caught between 44- and 47 yards; you're not throwing it 65 or 70 yards.

Also found an 99 draft scouting report on Tom Brady:

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Tom Brady

Positives: Good height to see the field. Very poised and composed. Smart and alert. Can read coverages. Good accuracy and touch. Produces in big spots and in big games. Has some Brian Griese in him and is a gamer. Generally plays within himself. Team leader.

Negatives: Poor build. Very skinny and narrow. Ended the ’99 season weighing 195 pounds and still looks like a rail at 211. Looks a little frail and lacks great physical stature and strength. Can get pushed down more easily than you’d like. Lacks mobility and ability to avoid the rush. Lacks a really strong arm. Can’t drive the ball down the field and does not throw a really tight spiral. System-type player who can get exposed if he must ad-lib and do things on his own.

Summary: Is not what you’re looking for in terms of physical stature, strength, arm strength and mobility, but he has the intangibles and production and showed great Griese-like improvement as a senior. Could make it in the right system but will not be for everyone.

And from this article. http://insider.espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/10017366/nfl-examining-tom-brady-arm-strength-issues-season (http://insider.espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/10017366/nfl-examining-tom-brady-arm-strength-issues-season)

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Take a look at these numbers: Since 2010, Brady ranks 25th out of 31 qualifying quarterbacks in completion percentage on passes over 20 yards in the air. He has hit on just 30.3 percent of those throws.

Arm strength is nice to have, but you can't win championships throwing the ball 80 yards down field. Just look at our backup QB. Joe Montana and Steve Young weren't noted for their long ball, but won plenty of Super Bowls. (OK the team around them helped allot)
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: ice grillin you on January 01, 2014, 12:49:13 AM
a weak arm can also get you out of the league in a few years or prevent you from ever winning a superbowl

also steve young had an excellent arm
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Eagaholic on January 01, 2014, 02:30:53 AM
a weak arm sets you up for ints, especially in bad weather. if you have a strong arm like Tony Romo you have to find other ways.
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: shorebird on January 01, 2014, 05:38:01 AM
Well, if it's not a weak arm, then it must be just stupidity, or being  gutless that sets Romo up for those late game, late season int's.
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Tomahawk on January 01, 2014, 12:44:58 PM
Even with his noodle arm, I begrudgingly have jumped on the Nickfoleon Dynamite bandwagon...for now.
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: ice grillin you on January 01, 2014, 12:48:52 PM
his arm shouldnt not put you on his bandwagon....the guy has been above and beyond

the question is can his weak arm and lack of mobility truly elevate this offense to where it could or should be

in other words if foles is your qb of the future are you settling
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Tomahawk on January 01, 2014, 01:14:19 PM
Yes, you're settling for where the offense could be, but not necessarily where it should be (if that makes sense). The kind of QB to take this offense to the next level is a rare breed. Maybe I'm just happy to see a qb who can actually anticipate where the receiver will be, but I don't see the position to be the glaring need that I thought it was at the beginning of the season. It's hard to be completely sold, though, since he's only had one good season. If the Eagles win the Super Bowl this year, Nick Foles forever.
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: General_Failure on January 01, 2014, 01:16:03 PM
I'm not really sure what more you want from this offense. They were fourth in points, second in yards, as balanced as you could ever hope for, and even played well in bad weather. Unless you're looking for some Peyton Manning bullshtein-never-gonna-happen-again numbers, they're about as elevated as they can be.
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Diomedes on January 01, 2014, 01:24:12 PM
If Foles keeps up this performance and the Eagles win the Super Bowl, we'd still have to listen to the same iceholes complaining about him, comparing him to some fantasy prospect the Eagles could draft, etc.   Yeah yeah, he's big and goofy and white and stfu.

He's played well enough for me to be delighted and I don't see any reason to get all down in the mouth about the Eagles QB situation at all.  Keep all three as they are for next year.  Vick as backup, Barkley to understudy another year, etc. 

Team has much more pressing issues than QB or Nick Foles.
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Tomahawk on January 01, 2014, 01:28:08 PM
Kick Vick off the team and replace him with some journeyman scrub who isn't quite as terrible.
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: QB Eagles on January 01, 2014, 01:46:36 PM
Foles' lack of arm strength didn't keep the Eagles from having the most plays of 20+ yards in NFL history. I haven't seen the stat since early December but it's quite likely that Foles is in the top 10 for deep ball completion % too. Sure it'd be nice if he had a cannon but I'm pretty sure any team scouting the Eagles wouldn't list "lack of downfield threat" as one of the top 15 weaknesses of the team.
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Rome on January 01, 2014, 01:59:43 PM
He's no Kevin Kolb but Foles certainly has adequate arm strength.
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Seabiscuit36 on January 01, 2014, 03:17:28 PM
I'm anxiously awaiting Munson's review of throws this season
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Munson on January 01, 2014, 03:28:19 PM
Foles hasn't put up a lot of floating ducks this season.
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: shorebird on January 01, 2014, 04:56:24 PM
Who was the guy that qb'd the Ravens before Flacco?? He had a cannon. He could throw the ball from the fifty yard line through the uprights from his knees. But he sucked as a qb. Arm strength alone does nothing to make a qb good or great.
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Munson on January 01, 2014, 05:09:33 PM
I don't even know....Boller?
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: shorebird on January 01, 2014, 05:34:27 PM
YES!! Kyle Boller.
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: AO1 on January 01, 2014, 05:44:29 PM
Foles is very good at putting the ball in a place where his receivers can make a play. There's a reason a lot of his throws that look like lobs are actually calculated risks that pay off. 2 INTs with a large number of 20+ yard plays is not an accident.
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: General_Failure on January 01, 2014, 05:57:31 PM
He could stand to take a few less sacks, but I don't remember how much of that is him, the blocking, or the receivers. I'm guessing very little of it is the receivers.
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on January 01, 2014, 06:42:14 PM
Foles is very good at putting the ball in a place where his receivers can make a play. There's a reason a lot of his throws that look like lobs are actually calculated risks that pay off. 2 INTs with a large number of 20+ yard plays is not an accident.

Agreed...the fact they go down the field as much as they do and he only has two picks shows he knows where to put it and can get it there. That's all that matters
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: SunMo on January 02, 2014, 09:28:12 AM
i love that in the internet scouting world anybody who doesn't have a Brett Favre arm automatically has a weak arm.

Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: NC_Eagle on January 02, 2014, 11:40:39 PM
i love that in the internet scouting world anybody who doesn't have a Brett Favre arm automatically has a weak arm.

They also seem to forget that Favre also holds the career INT record, one for every 1.5 TDs and a pedestrian 86.0 QB Rating. If it wasn't for his Ironman streak (which he appropriately gets mad credit for) he'd be just another above average QB who won some big games and lost some, though he did have good intangibles.
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: General_Failure on January 02, 2014, 11:48:35 PM
I for one just can't stop swinging on Favre's nuts.
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Eagles_Legendz on January 03, 2014, 12:28:35 AM
i love that in the internet scouting world anybody who doesn't have a Brett Favre arm automatically has a weak arm.

They also seem to forget that Favre also holds the career INT record, one for every 1.5 TDs and a pedestrian 86.0 QB Rating. If it wasn't for his Ironman streak (which he appropriately gets mad credit for) he'd be just another above average QB who won some big games and lost some, though he did have good intangibles.

no

you can't compare the numbers QBs are putting up now to what was happening even 10-15 years ago.  Completely different game since the defensive rule changes.  Compare numbers to other qbs of their generation.  Marino had an 86.4 career qb rating.  Aikman 81.

Romo 95.8.  Rivers 96.  Different eras.
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: General_Failure on January 03, 2014, 01:03:38 AM
Favre was terrible in every era he played.
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: shorebird on January 03, 2014, 07:06:48 PM
Yes, but he was such a mad gunslinger.
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Rome on January 03, 2014, 07:50:19 PM
Matt Schaub & Chad Pennington have higher QBR's than Dan Marino.  Tony Romo is #5.  Maybe QBR isn't necessarily such a great statistical measure of quarterbacking proficiency?
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Sgt PSN on January 03, 2014, 07:51:44 PM
No wonder that Marino guy never won a SB. Farging scrub.
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Eagaholic on January 04, 2014, 05:28:28 AM
Have to agree with EL- Steve Young is the only QB in the top 7 career QBR that isn't still playing.
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: ice grillin you on January 05, 2014, 10:19:32 AM
so a nick foles jerkfest morphs into a brett farve sucks parade....you people are amazing
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Sgt PSN on January 05, 2014, 10:38:14 AM
Lol
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: AO1 on January 06, 2014, 10:49:20 AM
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Joe Namath: Nick Foles could be one of the best quarterbacks to play in the NFL
Shutdown Corner By Yahoo! Sports Staff Jan 3, 2014 5:40 PM

A Hall of Fame quarterback thinks Nick Foles might be destined someday to be among the best quarterbacks ever to play the game.

In an exclusive interview with Yahoo Sports and the Shutdown Corner blog, former New York Jets quarterback Joe Namath counts himself a fan of the Philadelphia Eagles second-year quarterback. Foles plays in his first playoff game on Saturday night against the New Orleans Saints, and Namath thinks the Eagles have an edge in this game because of Foles.

“Over the past month, I’ve decided that Nick Foles is one of the best passers I’ve seen,” Namath said. “He throws on the move, what he puts on the ball - wow. He is special. He runs around there like an NBA guard, or maybe even a small forward. He’s big; he can throw. His throwing motion, throwing on the move, reminds me of Aaron Rodgers in Green Bay. Throwing that ball, this cat is good. He gives them a big edge.”

Namath, the hero of Super Bowl III who was inducted to the Pro Football Hall of Fame in 1985, is considered one of the best arms to ever play in the NFL. In Foles, he sees someone who “can be special, really great.”

In 13 games this season, Foles threw for 2,891 yards with 27 touchdowns and only two interceptions. But Foles’ mobility for a big quarterback — he is listed as 6-foot-6 — impresses Namath, who was known for his mobility before a knee injury during his senior year at Alabama cut back on his scrambling.

“I didn’t see [Foles] play a game in college. I didn’t even see him! But boy do I see him now. He certainly does move around beautifully. When I see him throwing in the last few months. I saw him make some throws on a rope and others where he puts some air on it. Others on swing passes where he puts it out there, not too much heat … you know, passes you can really handle. He has change of speeds. He doesn’t knock them over on a short post. He has a knack of judging distances,” Namath said.

“I believe he can be real special. Really special, really special. I like this kid.”

 

Namath is doing an NFL Playoff blog exclusively with Yahoo! Sports and he picked the Eagles to win Saturday night in their NFC Wild Card game against the Saints. To read Namath’s blog, click here.

You can follow Yahoo!Sports Kristian R. Dyer at @KristianRDyer.

 
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: ice grillin you on January 06, 2014, 10:53:52 AM
lol...namath is an awesome drunk but no chance he watched even one play of any eagle game this year
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Seabiscuit36 on January 06, 2014, 11:19:46 AM
lol...namath is an awesome drunk but no chance he watched even one play of any eagle game this year
He's clearly trying to get an interview with Suzy again by talking up her team
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: shorebird on January 06, 2014, 07:02:22 PM
lol...namath is an awesome drunk but no chance he watched even one play of any eagle game this year

Ha! I thought the same thing reading that.
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Diomedes on January 25, 2014, 03:36:13 PM
Omaha!

https://twitter.com/nfl/status/426803049181372416
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: BigEd76 on January 26, 2014, 11:22:25 PM
offensive MVP of the Pro Bowl (and from the losing team too)
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: BigEd76 on January 30, 2014, 12:10:26 PM
Foles (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4GRKEuL339w)

Around 1:12 he gives a really awful Napoleon Dynamite impression
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Tomahawk on January 30, 2014, 03:46:22 PM
You don't even have to click play to see him doing an awful Napoleon Dynamite impression
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Chameleon on January 30, 2014, 04:12:00 PM
You don't even have to click play to see him doing an awful Napoleon Dynamite impression

RACIST.
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: ice grillin you on January 30, 2014, 06:10:17 PM
You don't even have to click play to see him doing an awful Napoleon Dynamite impression

lol....that opening shot is the biggest look test fail since....

(http://pfw.s3.amazonaws.com/prospects/465080.jpg)
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Don Ho on February 01, 2014, 03:31:10 PM
That picture reminds me of that USPS commercial after the holidays where the family is trying to return the creepy gnome they received.  I have that same reaction as the postman in the commercial "eeeeehhhhhhh"
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Diomedes on February 01, 2014, 09:23:02 PM
in the "everyone gets a prize" category of "Greatness on the road," the winner is....

NICK FOLES

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap2000000321591/article/nfl-honors-complete-list-of-winners
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Don Ho on February 02, 2014, 06:22:27 AM
OMG!  That is actually a category? The human race continues to fall further into the abyss.
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: General_Failure on February 02, 2014, 10:56:29 AM
They wanted to call it the "Your Seven Touchdowns Were Impressive But You're Not Peyton Manning" Award.
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Eagaholic on February 02, 2014, 01:19:37 PM
or the You Suck at Home Award
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: AO1 on February 24, 2014, 08:05:37 PM
sucker
http://www.philly.com/philly/blogs/sports/eagles/Nick-Foles-makes-out-with-biggest-fan.html
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: ice grillin you on February 24, 2014, 08:48:24 PM
what a dork
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: BigEd76 on February 24, 2014, 11:56:23 PM
she's the younger sister of Evan Moore if you remember that week he was here
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Chameleon on March 15, 2014, 12:52:30 PM
terrible pick and it has nothing to do with the guy....i have no idea how he will turn out...its the position...they could have went in so many other directions that would have helped the team in the short term

i will give andy credit in one sense...he doesnt let the possibility of his job being in danger affect his picks...either that or he isnt going anywhere until he wants to go and he knows this

solid post!
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: ice grillin you on March 15, 2014, 01:04:33 PM
you try waaaaaaaay to hard and on top of that have a serious reading comprehension problem

if you are gonna dig for zingers please come up with something semi productive

thanks
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Diomedes on March 15, 2014, 01:06:58 PM
You hated him from the start.  White guy, slow, weak arm...blah blah blah.

He's pretty goddamn good and you got it wrong from the start.  Eat crow.

Also, one doesn't have to look hard to find idiocy around here.  From everyone.  Well, from most.  Big Brother and Sus don't really farg around.

Crow.
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: ice grillin you on March 15, 2014, 01:08:10 PM
you read about as well as the troglodyte

ill also say it again...why because this guy had one year is he automatically anointed the next one....can he at least throw together a few years before we know hes not jake delhomme
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Diomedes on March 15, 2014, 01:19:00 PM
Funny that you talk reading comprehension..no one here has anointed him the next one...just you in your trolling cups.

You were down on the farging guy from the beginning.  Now his shtein is in the farging Hall of Fame, he's put up the best QB performance for an Eagle since...NEVER...and you're still down on him.  Stick to your guns.

He's pretty goddamn good and you can hate on all you need to until we get someone who's street enough for you.  But you're not fooling anyone here.
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: General_Failure on March 15, 2014, 01:26:07 PM
Well, from most.  Big Brother and Sus don't really farg around.

I thought Thomas Tapeh was going to be great.
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Diomedes on March 15, 2014, 01:29:35 PM
You could be doing so much more with your time.
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: ice grillin you on March 15, 2014, 01:34:19 PM
Funny that you talk reading comprehension..no one here has anointed him the next one...just you in your trolling cups.

You were down on the farging guy from the beginning.  Now his shtein is in the farging Hall of Fame, he's put up the best QB performance for an Eagle since...NEVER...and you're still down on him.  Stick to your guns.

He's pretty goddamn good and you can hate on all you need to until we get someone who's street enough for you.  But you're not fooling anyone here.

it says right in my post that you just quoted five minutes ago "I HAVE NO IDEA HOW HE IS GOING TO TURN OUT"

the weak arm stuff you are completely confusing cobb and foles....foles arm strength has shown to be questionable on the move but overall its fine

the only thing ive ever said about foles is that i dont think he fits what chipper wants cause hes a statue...and that im not ready to make him the future after one year or say that hes "goddamn good" yet...that doesnt mean i hate him or that i think he sucks

no clue where you are getting this hes not street enough for me as ive never ever said that about him...having that dawg in you is irrelevant at the qb position...altho i have made fun of his look test which was a massive fail until his haircuts over the last six months
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Chameleon on March 15, 2014, 01:38:59 PM
Note to self: try less hard. This is going to be hard.
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Chameleon on March 15, 2014, 01:55:35 PM
Havas, do you think that I spend all my waking hours searching for stupid shtein that you say or do you think that whenever I come accross it I just point it out? Reading is hard btw, you would think you would support me in my struggle to be productive considering you and all your co-workers are almost guaranteed to be retarded. Keep on voting, the power of numbers is with you. The more you and your meth-smoking coherts procreate the more power your nipple will accrue. GL, the odds of your genetic code being used like whore in a brothel for generations to come are very good.

Nick Foles for Prez.
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: ice grillin you on March 15, 2014, 02:02:49 PM
Havas, do you think that I spend all my waking hours searching for stupid shtein that you say or do you think that whenever I come accross it I just point it out? Reading is hard btw, you would think you would support me in my struggle to be productive considering you and all your co-workers are almost guaranteed to be retarded. Keep on voting, the power of numbers is with you. The more you and your meth-smoking coherts procreate the more power your nipple will accrue. GL, the odds of your genetic code being used like whore in a brothel for generations to come are very good.

Nick Foles for Prez.

(http://www.philaflava.com/forum/images/smilies/didntread4gd.gif)
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: General_Failure on March 15, 2014, 02:06:49 PM
Even I can't tell if the profanity filter hit that.
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Chameleon on March 15, 2014, 02:19:59 PM
Havas, do you think that I spend all my waking hours searching for stupid shtein that you say or do you think that whenever I come accross it I just point it out? Reading is hard btw, you would think you would support me in my struggle to be productive considering you and all your co-workers are almost guaranteed to be retarded. Keep on voting, the power of numbers is with you. The more you and your meth-smoking coherts procreate the more power your nipple will accrue. GL, the odds of your genetic code being used like whore in a brothel for generations to come are very good.

Nick Foles for Prez.

(http://www.philaflava.com/forum/images/smilies/didntread4gd.gif)

Yes you did, terrible gif btw.
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: shorebird on March 17, 2014, 05:36:14 PM
Jake Delhomme? C'mon.

igor will never really like any player that's not black, especially rb's. No white player will ever be "street enough", or "have that dawg in him." Him and his little buddy are racist hungry hungry hippos and proud of it. Theyz be Justified! Fighting the good fight.
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: General_Failure on March 17, 2014, 05:56:25 PM
So did she ever put flowers on Algernon's grave for you?
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: ice grillin you on March 17, 2014, 05:56:56 PM
dollar bud night at the moose lodge must have started early this week
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: General_Failure on March 17, 2014, 05:59:33 PM
St Patty's Day. RIP, matty's liver. Again.
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Rome on March 17, 2014, 06:02:18 PM
I got a text from him at 3:30 this morning.  He's in Dublin at a whore house drinking Absinthe and doing lines off the tits of three redheaded virgins.

Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: General_Failure on March 17, 2014, 06:04:52 PM
Yeah, like there's virgins in Ireland that aren't clergymen.
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: ice grillin you on March 17, 2014, 06:34:13 PM
also a little fyi for my fanclub because the foles stuff is really annoying and completely offbase....if you wanna kill me for something kill me for chipper...thats something ive been 100% wrong on thus far
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Rome on March 17, 2014, 06:38:52 PM
If it's any consolation he's eventually going to get fired or he'll quit, so you'll be right about him eventually.

Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Tomahawk on March 18, 2014, 08:42:16 AM
As wrong as you admittedly were about Kelly, you were even more off on Foles.
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: ice grillin you on March 18, 2014, 08:57:19 AM
even if i made a prediction on foles which i didnt....i once again laugh at all you who think because he had a few good games hes basically already locked in as a great nfl qb

its precisely viewpoints such as these that make me despise homers....whether its all you guys here or xtremeskins....its all the same yet no one ever thinks they are one
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: ice grillin you on March 18, 2014, 08:59:52 AM
If it's any consolation he's eventually going to get fired or he'll quit, so you'll be right about him eventually.

to be fair for my prediction to come true it would have to happen within the first three years....which seems highly unlikely at this point...altho you never know how much he misses college or what a huge fall back year this upcoming season would do to him

either way the point is if the fan club needs to get off on something it should focus on my chip prediction not some imaginary foles stuff you all created in your warped minds
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: rjs246 on March 18, 2014, 09:05:17 AM
As wrong as you admittedly were about Kelly, you were even more off on Foles.

Hahaha.
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Eagaholic on March 18, 2014, 10:26:54 AM
even if i made a prediction on foles which i didnt....i once again laugh at all you who think because he had a few good games hes basically already locked in as a great nfl qb

its precisely viewpoints such as these that make me despise homers....whether its all you guys here or xtremeskins....its all the same yet no one ever thinks they are one

Who here says Foles is a lock to be a great nfl QB? 
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Chameleon on March 18, 2014, 10:27:42 AM
I got a text from him at 3:30 this morning.  He's in Dublin at a whore house drinking Absinthe and doing lines off the tits of three redheaded virgins.



Yeah, like there's virgins in Ireland that aren't clergymen.

Funny stuff, Failure.
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: smeags on March 18, 2014, 04:53:56 PM
so i see iggy still wont admit he was wrong about foles.
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: smeags on March 18, 2014, 04:57:48 PM
btw

(https://encrypted-tbn2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSAXQScgpsgw80bmM5--imFIgVHfKn3jtApZ8Nfug8E_53Hcrn2WzusMh4)

(https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQZZS1MHSe8CqkpWsEKX-RJbSbKVePYAHUX20nKNts91lKAOWn2aN7DujY)

was the polish riffle plowing a texas hood rat in 1989 ?
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Diomedes on March 18, 2014, 05:12:24 PM
Who here says Foles is a lock to be a great nfl QB?

That would only be igy, trolling words into our mouths.
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: General_Failure on March 18, 2014, 05:27:42 PM
That's only fair, since people seem to be pretty willing to do it to him over Foles. Saying he's slow, doesn't have a strong arm, and maybe a quarterback who was faster and had a stronger arm would be a better fit for this offense apparently means you want to just take a big shtein right in Foles' mouth.
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Diomedes on March 18, 2014, 05:32:54 PM
yeah...on that arm strength complaint. 

http://birdbreakdown.com/2014/03/03/qb-velocity-rankings-nick-foles-has-an-objectively-strong-arm/

He's been down on the guy from day one because he's white and goofy looking...has nothing to do with his play.  Neither does this "in Chip's offense" argument make any sense...until the games were played, there was no offense to speak of...just his college tape.  Every icehole who waxed on about Chip Kelly's "system" knew dick all about it, so saying this guy is better than that guy is just a bunch of blather.

igy been down on him from the start for no good reason, won't cop to it..what else is new.
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: General_Failure on March 18, 2014, 05:49:04 PM
Everybody was down on him from the start. It was a dumb move to take a quarterback with that pick. It seems to be working okay now, but it didn't help Andy keep his job.
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: smeags on March 18, 2014, 08:25:24 PM
not everyone. some took the wait and see approach instead of projecting failure. so far so good
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Tomahawk on March 18, 2014, 09:32:50 PM
not everyone. some took the wait and see approach instead of projecting failure.

False
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: General_Failure on March 18, 2014, 09:43:23 PM
I called everyone in the world this afternoon. I only got a few answers because who the farg actually talks on the phone in this day and age, but the answers I got were all along the lines of "yeah, I thought it was a dumb pick at the time."
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: ice grillin you on March 19, 2014, 07:03:40 AM
Everybody was down on him from the start. It was a dumb move to take a quarterback with that pick. It seems to be working okay now, but it didn't help Andy keep his job.

exactly...it has nothing to do with foles....it was a stupid and unecessary pick at the time

That's only fair, since people seem to be pretty willing to do it to him over Foles. Saying he's slow, doesn't have a strong arm, and maybe a quarterback who was faster and had a stronger arm would be a better fit for this offense apparently means you want to just take a big shtein right in Foles' mouth.

how come you get it and the fan club is so dumb?....this isnt rocket science
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: ice grillin you on March 19, 2014, 07:22:57 AM
yeah...on that arm strength complaint. 

http://birdbreakdown.com/2014/03/03/qb-velocity-rankings-nick-foles-has-an-objectively-strong-arm/

lol at "combine velocities"

when you start watching games you can chime in

his arm seems strong enough to me....but its def not strong...and its really bad if hes on the move...its also embarassingly bad for his size
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Rome on March 19, 2014, 07:42:11 AM
This conversation is neat.
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: General_Failure on March 19, 2014, 10:33:53 AM
It just barely beats out building up a nice froth over fake Jackson trade rumors.
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: smeags on March 19, 2014, 11:07:45 AM
i like a good froth once in a while.


opps ... wrong forum.  :paranoid
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Diomedes on March 19, 2014, 05:26:58 PM
blah blah blah

I gave you a link.  With charts.   Boom goes the dynamite.

Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: General_Failure on March 19, 2014, 06:27:52 PM
He was just following the directions in the footnotes.

Quote
Footnotes
(Seriously don’t waste your time reading these. They’re just obligatory explanations of why the data isn’t perfect.)
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: NC_Eagle on March 20, 2014, 08:09:13 PM
This conversation is neat.

I'm thinking most people in here get winded throwing the ball around the back yard.  :paranoid
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: shorebird on March 21, 2014, 06:46:10 AM
He's been down on the guy from day one because he's white and goofy looking...has nothing to do with his play. 
igy been down on him from the start for no good reason, won't cop to it..what else is new.

Exactly.

Also, his arm strength is bad when he's on the move?? And particularly bad for his size? You're reaching man, embarrassing, really.

There were a lot of people saying it was a bad pick, I wasn't one of them, and after seeing him play a few games I wanted him over Vick ever since. I caught all kinds of racist bullshtein from igor and his little sidekick, too many beers at the legion, eastern shore rise, and all the other crap that is spewed from the sewer hole of his keyboard. He's still doing it. Been doing it from the start and GF doesn't see it or likes the donations too much.
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: ice grillin you on March 21, 2014, 07:17:22 AM
lol you wanted him over vick....you are a football genius!

vick is a pos qb and ive said it from the day he was acquired

i know its hard because you are an ancient backwoods white dood but you really need to let the racism go....the bitterness is making you think opposite things.....things like i love vick and hate foles

the mexicans have taken your jobs you cornhole cranial lump and you aint gettin them back.....DEAL with it!
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Zanshin on March 21, 2014, 09:07:54 AM
Hbionic is in on this conspiracy? I KNEW it.
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: General_Failure on March 21, 2014, 10:15:15 AM
I caught all kinds of racist bullshtein from igor and his little sidekick, too many beers at the legion, eastern shore rise, and all the other crap that is spewed from the sewer hole of his keyboard. He's still doing it. Been doing it from the start and GF doesn't see it or likes the donations too much.

Or I think maybe the guy that drunk posted about pulling his daughter around by the hair to yell at her maybe could use a little mocking. Or maybe that's irrelevant and you sometimes have dumb opinions. Or maybe I only think the dogpile on IGY is fun when he's actually said something stupid.

terrible pick and it has nothing to do with the guy....i have no idea how he will turn out...its the position...they could have went in so many other directions that would have helped the team in the short term

This is the classic meh pick. Its not Teo, Smith, or Gocong bad but its not somethimg that is exciting.

Was just thinking that while this isn't an exciting pick, it's infinitely better than the project/hybrid guys the Eagles have been grabbing around this time in the draft over the years.

absolutely...like i said its the position not the player thats the problem....which is def better than picking an awful player

Man, I wish this stupid Skins fan would stop burying Foles, amirite? If you think money will change my mind please feel free to hit that PayPal button. Sure, they keep locking my account every three months for the last four years so that I can't put money in or take it out, but you might have better luck!
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: smeags on March 21, 2014, 11:52:50 AM
such a lovely online community here.
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: MDS on March 21, 2014, 03:08:13 PM
remember the time shore got drunk and sent me 3 anti semitic private messages? right.

but no its not mean...hes not racist or a raging elderly alcoholic. hes just a normal guy. 
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: smeags on March 21, 2014, 03:44:07 PM
here we go back to the jerry springer show.
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Rome on March 21, 2014, 04:05:13 PM
This conversation is neat.
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: General_Failure on March 21, 2014, 04:08:09 PM
We've got a long way to go until the draft. I hope somebody on this team gets a couple of felony charges to liven things up around here.
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: ice grillin you on March 21, 2014, 04:19:31 PM
where dio the troll at?


I caught all kinds of racist bullshtein from igor and his little sidekick, too many beers at the legion, eastern shore rise, and all the other crap that is spewed from the sewer hole of his keyboard. He's still doing it. Been doing it from the start and GF doesn't see it or likes the donations too much.

Or I think maybe the guy that drunk posted about pulling his daughter around by the hair to yell at her maybe could use a little mocking. Or maybe that's irrelevant and you sometimes have dumb opinions. Or maybe I only think the dogpile on IGY is fun when he's actually said something stupid.

terrible pick and it has nothing to do with the guy....i have no idea how he will turn out...its the position...they could have went in so many other directions that would have helped the team in the short term

This is the classic meh pick. Its not Teo, Smith, or Gocong bad but its not somethimg that is exciting.

Was just thinking that while this isn't an exciting pick, it's infinitely better than the project/hybrid guys the Eagles have been grabbing around this time in the draft over the years.

absolutely...like i said its the position not the player thats the problem....which is def better than picking an awful player

Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Eagaholic on March 21, 2014, 04:32:43 PM
I think it's "Dio" that's supposed to be in bold
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: shorebird on March 21, 2014, 05:45:42 PM
I caught all kinds of racist bullshtein from igor and his little sidekick, too many beers at the legion, eastern shore rise, and all the other crap that is spewed from the sewer hole of his keyboard. He's still doing it. Been doing it from the start and GF doesn't see it or likes the donations too much.

Or I think maybe the guy that drunk posted about pulling his daughter around by the hair to yell at her maybe could use a little mocking. Or maybe that's irrelevant and you sometimes have dumb opinions. Or maybe I only think the dogpile on IGY is fun when he's actually said something stupid.

Wow, must have struck a nerve for you to go that far back even if it never happened quite like that.

lol you wanted him over vick....you are a football genius!

vick is a pos qb and ive said it from the day he was acquired

i know its hard because you are an ancient backwoods white dood but you really need to let the racism go....the bitterness is making you think opposite things.....things like i love vick and hate foles

the mexicans have taken your jobs you cornhole cranial lump and you aint gettin them back.....DEAL with it!

From Nick Foles and Vick, to Mexicans taking my job.

Buh Bye, sayanora, adios, and all that shtein.

elder white piles on the negro qb when he didnt even play
the white backup qb has won two games in place of the negro starter who beat the shtein out of dogs

cottman and frankford crowd STAND UP
eastern shore RISE!!
i hate vick more than anyone....but i hate him cause hes a bad qb....not cause i think foles is good....much less think foles is the second coming of the great white hope which is whats about to happen with the romey shore musnon crowd
oh no doubt...they cant help themselves
 

Really? This is what this turns into?

Be proud of what this shteinhole has become GF.

GREAT WHITE FOLES!!
 

This is what I was talking about. You must have forgot. Drunk maybe? Great White Foles?

Keep those donations coming.
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: ice grillin you on March 21, 2014, 05:47:46 PM
you just quoted a post saying how much I hate vick right after you said I loved vick cause hes black

make your mind up
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: shorebird on March 21, 2014, 05:51:05 PM
No, No, Noooooo. You will never like Foles because he's white. It's obvious to everyone but you and anyone who likes Foles over Vick is racist, white, and a republican dirt bag.
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: shorebird on March 21, 2014, 05:53:37 PM
remember the time shore got drunk and sent me 3 anti semitic private messages? right.

but no its not mean...hes not racist or a raging elderly alcoholic. hes just a normal guy. 

Ha! Yeah I was drunk as a monkey then. Anti semitic? Don't remember that part. But anyway, I was trashed. You never post drunk, that's the really scary part that you think the way you do sober.
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: ice grillin you on March 21, 2014, 05:54:20 PM
anyone who likes Foles over Vick is racist, white, and a republican dirt bag.

no just you
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: shorebird on March 21, 2014, 06:00:04 PM
anyone who likes Foles over Vick is racist, white, and a republican dirt bag.

no just you

...and not every other elder white east of the Chesapeake.
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: ice grillin you on March 21, 2014, 06:01:09 PM
not me thats for shore
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: shorebird on March 21, 2014, 06:03:21 PM
Well, maybe I shouldn't say you don't like Foles because he's white, there might be a white player out there you like, but I've never seen it.

Foles is much too white for you. Big, goofy, and whiter than rice. And a hell of a qb which burns your ass.
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: ice grillin you on March 21, 2014, 06:07:21 PM
you saying hes a hell of a qb concerns me far more than his skin color

dont we want white qbs for their intellect?.....its linebackers and corners that need melanin
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: shorebird on March 21, 2014, 06:14:19 PM
He's accurate as anything, can make any throw he needs too. Moves better than he gets credit for even if he doesn't look too good doing it. Throws on the run better than you will give him credit for. Had a completion percentage right around 65%. Passed for almost three grand in thirteen games. Whats not to like? Being white has nothing to do with it unless it's you doing the thinking.
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: NC_Eagle on March 22, 2014, 10:24:53 AM
*reads last few pages*
(http://i.imgur.com/pZJkHzY.jpg)
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: ice grillin you on July 10, 2014, 07:28:37 AM
buzz bissinger wrote an amazing piece in philly mag this month on foles....for some reason weirdo foles and his family refused to be interviewed for it but buzz being buzz still penned a gem
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on July 10, 2014, 11:29:44 AM
link?

They probably don't like Buzz because he's a crossdresser.
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: ice grillin you on July 10, 2014, 11:34:43 AM
its in the new issue that just came out
im not sure if they allow the new stuff like that to be put on the net or not
check philly mags site
if its not there then its probably not avaiable outside of hard copy
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: ice grillin you on July 16, 2014, 01:12:24 PM
link?


http://www.phillymag.com/articles/nick-foles-eagles-profile/
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: smeags on July 16, 2014, 01:36:18 PM
if only he could get a really deep, deep tan more people would like foles.




/sarcasm
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Eagles_Legendz on July 16, 2014, 09:22:58 PM
link?


http://www.phillymag.com/articles/nick-foles-eagles-profile/

That was a really interesting read.  I slightly differ on the take on Foles in big games.  Eagles had a lot of big games down the stretch Foles did well in and the article says he played poorly or looked confused in the second half vs NO when I thought the last quarter was when he really stepped up.
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: MDS on July 16, 2014, 09:55:59 PM
buzz is a great writer but he doesnt know anything about sports...and hes clinically insane
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: ice grillin you on July 17, 2014, 07:29:59 AM
link?


http://www.phillymag.com/articles/nick-foles-eagles-profile/

That was a really interesting read.  I slightly differ on the take on Foles in big games.  Eagles had a lot of big games down the stretch Foles did well in and the article says he played poorly or looked confused in the second half vs NO when I thought the last quarter was when he really stepped up.

whats really great about the article is that ten different people could read it and five will come away liking foles more and five will come away liking foles less
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: phattymatty on July 17, 2014, 07:50:52 AM
i don't think that crazy farg buzz knows either...spends 10 pages of how great of a person foles is then calls him a chickenshtein.
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: ice grillin you on July 17, 2014, 07:58:13 AM
buzz coming up next on the pulse of the city
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: ice grillin you on July 17, 2014, 08:06:49 AM
lol...first thing buzz says...i wanted to do the piece cause i have a lot of texas connections and because the local media coverage of the eagles is putrid
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: MDS on July 17, 2014, 02:29:40 PM
i always wanted to know what nick foles was like 7 years ago

because everyone is always the same when they are senior in high school and when they are a few years out of college
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: ice grillin you on July 17, 2014, 02:30:29 PM
you are just pissed he didnt play soccer in high school
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: MDS on July 17, 2014, 02:35:34 PM
im listening to buzz on angelo the legend now...this dude is off the reservation
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: ice grillin you on July 17, 2014, 02:37:18 PM
hes the greatest
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: MDS on July 17, 2014, 02:42:12 PM
he wrote 1 good book 25 years ago and hes basically acting like hes the goat....gotta respect it. dude is philly through and through.
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: ice grillin you on July 17, 2014, 03:02:02 PM
he wrote 1 good book 25 years ago and hes basically acting like hes the goat

yeah its kind of crazy that all hes done is that one measly book if you dont count the thousands of fantastic magazine and newspaper pieces hes written...one of which got him a little thing called a pulitzer
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: General_Failure on July 17, 2014, 03:25:25 PM
Was that one more full of purple prose than this article, or less? Or was it just Foles' high school bowl cut that made him whip out the thesaurus?
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: smeags on July 17, 2014, 03:57:49 PM
obviously buzz is a racist.
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Eagaholic on July 19, 2014, 07:27:17 AM
obviously buzz is a whiney little jilted media bitch.

he's not the only one around.
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: NC_Eagle on August 02, 2014, 09:20:27 AM
Been reading the 2014 Athlon football preview magazine, they have a stat called "Average Depth of Throw" to rank QBs. (distance each pass travels down field, complete or incomplete, not including YAC).

Nick was ranked 6/7 (tie) with 9.7 aDot, top was Kapernick with 10.2, 2nd was Eli with 10.1. Some other QBs of note were Peyton at 32 with 8.2, Brady at 19 with 8.9, Big Ben at 26 with 8.6.

Not the sole indicator of a great QB of course; Jay Cutler, Case Keenum and Carlson Palmer are in the top 10 also, but it does mean he gets the ball down-field more than most QBs. According to the article QBs with high aDot are aggressive and take chances on big plays with the potential for a big loss, low aDot are conservative and take the safe/secure route.

Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: ice grillin you on August 02, 2014, 09:47:37 AM
Not the sole indicator of a great QB of course

wait a second....aDot is NOT the sole indicator of QB play?
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: General_Failure on August 02, 2014, 09:54:59 AM
You have to combine it with ESPN's totally legitimate QB rating.
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: NC_Eagle on August 07, 2014, 08:02:17 PM
You have to combine it with ESPN's totally legitimate QB rating.

No worse than the NFL QB rating in the context of present day passing offenses.  ::)

Just found the stat interesting since Nick gets knocked for arm strength but in Chip's offense (basically a jazzed up W/C) it's not that important, but they are still aggressive at completing passes in the mid range and Foles targets his passes deeper than most QBs in the league.
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: ice grillin you on August 28, 2014, 11:24:51 AM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BwImQtmCYAAGtNs.png)
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: smeags on August 28, 2014, 11:36:23 AM
wtf  :-D
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: BigEd76 on August 28, 2014, 01:45:23 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GmgGpmEX5nU

Good thing he's a QB and not an undercover cop
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Sgt PSN on August 30, 2014, 09:22:42 AM
Who the hell rents a conference room for a fantasy draft?  Draft party is Havas' basement?  Sure. Renting a conf room?  Gtfo.
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: ice grillin you on August 30, 2014, 09:29:17 AM
lol...yeah youd def do it at a sports bar...FOR FREE

and how did you know we have our draft in my basement?
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Sgt PSN on August 30, 2014, 09:41:23 AM
I generally assume that all things awesome happen in your basement. Havas' basement is the anti-rape basement.
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on September 27, 2014, 01:36:07 AM
http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-network-total-access/0ap3000000401197/Bird-Tough-A-Nick-Foles-story

Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Sgt PSN on September 28, 2014, 07:58:21 PM
2013 was magic but 2014 has been mostly bad save for a few plays here and there. I don't really care if it's Foles or Sanchize for the year but I think I've seen enough from Foles to have no faith in him long term. Brutal
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: ice grillin you on September 28, 2014, 08:38:05 PM
he is what we thought he was....first good defense faced and DUD
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: MDS on September 28, 2014, 08:43:14 PM
yea he wasnt good by any stretch...but the lack of talent up front certain does not help
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: ice grillin you on September 28, 2014, 08:44:38 PM
yea he wasnt good by any stretch...but the lack of talent up front certain does not help

lol....homerz
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: MDS on September 28, 2014, 08:48:52 PM
right?
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: General_Failure on September 28, 2014, 08:54:45 PM
Even when he's got time, his passes are nowhere near receivers. He's obviously beat to hell, making bad decisions and worse throws. Somehow they're still going to get 10 wins with him.
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: ice grillin you on September 29, 2014, 01:10:12 PM
its funny how he doesnt have time to throw but holds onto the ball too long
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: AO1 on September 29, 2014, 01:18:32 PM
He had a bad game, that's because the 49ers shut down the run game. Not many QBs can operate under center with no running game. He's had to put the offense on his shoulders the last few weeks. He hasn't been great this season but their offense revolves around the running game, lately it's revolved around the passing attack.
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: ice grillin you on September 29, 2014, 01:21:18 PM
sanchize time
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: MDS on September 29, 2014, 01:28:27 PM
nick foles isnt as good as aaron rodgers
nick foles isnt as bad as blaine gabbert

nick foles
is
nick foles
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Eagles_Legendz on September 29, 2014, 01:31:59 PM
He had plenty of time in the first half.  No run blocking but pass blocking was solid.  Missed people down field a bunch.  Time went away in the 4th quarter.  Still should've scored if Cooper isn't a huge POS but you need more than one drive into opposing teams territory.

Lane is a better RBer than pass blocker so that might help but the run O is a mess.  Not sure why they haven't used Sproles more in routes the last two weeks.   They've called about 25 fake screen left go screen right this year and they haven't worked. Put sproles out in space in 7 yard routes on LBers and safeties.
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: ice grillin you on September 29, 2014, 01:38:28 PM
He had plenty of time in the first half.  No run blocking but pass blocking was solid.

100%

as i was saying last week the pass blocking is not an issue and it wasn't yesterday...it was well above adequate
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Don Ho on September 29, 2014, 09:57:27 PM
  Missed people down field a bunch. 

Rinse and repeat.  This is becoming an alarming trait.
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on October 06, 2014, 12:14:33 AM
http://mobile.philly.com/sports/eagles/?wss=/philly/sports/eagles&id=278184321

Now there's a new nugget of info

That Foles and Bill Lazor didn't get along by the end of last year?
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Eagaholic on October 06, 2014, 01:20:51 AM
To me the most troubling things about Foles is he isn't fixing his ongoing problens. He's regressing in his mechanics and is getting worse rather than better with making horrible high risk throws. This is more of  concern that his inaccuracy which I think can come back if he gets fully healthy and better protection.
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: MDS on October 06, 2014, 01:36:43 AM
or he just isnt and was never all that good

when youre scrimmaging for 7 tds against the oakland raiders you put ideas in peoples heads. but the reality is nick foles is nick foles and hes never gonna be peyton manning.

they can still win with him if a million things shake out right...such as richard sherman magically appearing as a starting corner...but really his future is as a game manager, veteran qb like carson palmer or something.
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Rome on October 06, 2014, 01:42:12 AM
He's 4-1 and Mark Sanchez is his backup.

Let's definitely replace him.

farging morons.
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: MDS on October 06, 2014, 01:58:26 AM
i never suggested replacing him.

the 2008 buffalo bills were 5-1 with trent edwards as their qb. nobody cares about foles and his awesome october record.
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: ice grillin you on October 06, 2014, 07:57:37 AM
im not going around town thumping the mark sanchez drum or anything but id replace foles with him in a heartbeat and not feel bad about it for a second....if i see foles throw off his back foot one more time im gonna lose it
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Eagles_Legendz on October 06, 2014, 08:27:00 AM
Foles should play against the Giants obviously but I think you're looking at a different situation if the defense hadnt held this wk and against Washington when facing drives to win the game.  You'd have a lot of pressure and noise about Foles then.  There are other problems with how the offense is functioning but he seems to be more a liability than asset right now.  Can't complete anything downfield even when people are open.  Turning the ball over unnecessarily.  Floating the ball to the middle of the field off his back foot too frequently.  Most his yards are coming from bubble screens to wideouts or like 7 yard hitch routes.   I want him to be successful because im really not in the mood to do the whole search for a franchise QB thing again, but other than record and toughness I don't see much to support how he's played this year (or preseason for that matter).
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on October 06, 2014, 08:43:54 AM
His down field passing is awful and the back pedaling and throwing off his back foot is a violation of QB-101...hopefully when they watch film each time he does it Musgrave stops the tape and just gives him a WTF look

Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: AO1 on October 06, 2014, 09:00:15 AM
There was no way it was happening with how Foles played last season but I wish we could go back in time and take Bridgewater over Smith.
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Rome on October 06, 2014, 09:02:33 AM
1000% agree.

I'd take the little guy over Smith, though.
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Rome on October 06, 2014, 09:05:25 AM
And by the way... I'm not saying Foles is the second coming of Christ by any means, but he's the best option they have at the moment.  Suggesting otherwise or constantly bitching about his deficiencies especially after wins is especially stupid IMO.

The defense is a flat out disgrace and that should be of paramount concern.
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: AO1 on October 06, 2014, 09:23:20 AM
Best option now, sure.

One of two things needs to happen if they're going forward with him as the future QB:

1. He steps his game up during the regular season. He needs to play smarter and make better decisions. He's not gifted enough as a QB or athlete to play sloppy. His QB rating is 81 and he's not even passing at 60%. You could insert Glennon/Fitzpatrick...Austin Davis...and get similar results in this offense.

2. He continues to play this way, they get into the playoffs, and he gets hot. Eli Manning style.

Otherwise they need to look for other options.
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on October 06, 2014, 09:28:55 AM
http://philadelphia.cbslocal.com/2014/10/06/bissinger-says-foles-is-not-super-bowl-caliber-demands-apology-from-philly/

Apologize to Buzz, Philly! Now!

And as a gesture of your sorrow send him a gift card for some ladies clothes.

He's a clown.
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Eagles_Legendz on October 06, 2014, 10:10:29 AM
And by the way... I'm not saying Foles is the second coming of Christ by any means, but he's the best option they have at the moment.  Suggesting otherwise or constantly bitching about his deficiencies especially after wins is especially stupid IMO.

The defense is a flat out disgrace and that should be of paramount concern.

I actually disagree with that.  I thought the defense played well against the Niners especially considering they were spotted three extra possessions due to return touchdowns and played very well yesterday until they went into prevent mode annoyingly early in the game.  It was a disgrace versus Washington.  Other than that I think the D has been OK and played better than offense the last two weeks (which is troublesome because the D is merely average - the offense is what is supposed to be good).
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: ice grillin you on October 06, 2014, 01:14:40 PM
yeah the defense isn't any good but the offense is much more of a concern right now

and I don't wanna see foles get better if it means the organization thinks hes the future....if he gets better it will because parts of the offense has gotten better (running game) or healthy (oline) or both...i think we know what foles is...

the one big thing that he isn't is a read option threat....which is a huge part of chips offense that is dormant as long as hes the qb
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on October 06, 2014, 01:34:53 PM
What kind of sense does "I don't wanna see Foles get better if it means the organization thinks hes the future" make?!?!

What if he DOES develop into that future guy?
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: SunMo on October 06, 2014, 02:08:27 PM
how many qbs "develop" like that?  they can either play or they can't.  i mean, the guys who are good start off at a certain level and get better to the point of being really good, but you can see from the start that they have the tools to get to that level.  i don't see that with foles. his arm is average, his mobility is below average and his pocket presence has taken a huge step back this year.  he doesn't have any truly elite skills that you can build on to "develop" him
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on October 06, 2014, 02:12:31 PM
I mean lets be real here...he doesn't suck. He's serviceable and he can win you enough games if he tightens up on his mechanics amongst other things...like having protection and a running game.

I don't think he's the long term answer UNLESS he fixes those things. If he does then he can be that guy to hold the spot for 5+ years.

Its not like he's a bum like some of the other QBs who deserve to be benched or released...

So in your "he can play or he can't" declaration...Foles can play. I believe he can be coached up and assisted from scheme/supporting cast/play calling enough to be a legit starting QB. But again...the caveat is that he has to show improvement on those blemishes
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: ice grillin you on October 06, 2014, 02:25:54 PM
What kind of sense does "I don't wanna see Foles get better if it means the organization thinks hes the future" make?!?!

What if he DOES develop into that future guy?

because i dont want fools gold like last year that tricks the team into thinking hes the answer and gives him a long term franchise qb type deal

im not to worried about it because imo chip has known from day one that foles is not his man....he just hasn't found that person yet
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: AO1 on October 06, 2014, 02:28:06 PM
He doesn't have the athleticism or arm to be a good QB. He needs to play smart football, manage games, and hit the open receivers. His accuracy is way off."Serviceable" is fine when the running game is going off.
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: SunMo on October 06, 2014, 02:33:28 PM
I mean lets be real here...he doesn't suck. He's serviceable and he can win you enough games if he tightens up on his mechanics amongst other things...like having protection and a running game.

I don't think he's the long term answer UNLESS he fixes those things. If he does then he can be that guy to hold the spot for 5+ years.

Its not like he's a bum like some of the other QBs who deserve to be benched or released...

So in your "he can play or he can't" declaration...Foles can play. I believe he can be coached up and assisted from scheme/supporting cast/play calling enough to be a legit starting QB. But again...the caveat is that he has to show improvement on those blemishes

i agree he doesn't suck..he's average.  can you win a super bowl with average?  once in a great while yes, with a lights out defense and/or incredible skill position players. 

this offense needs someone who can deliver the ball on-time and accurately, and he's not that right now.  how many farging passes yesterday were just thrown in the middle of the field because he was gonna get sacked?  he could have easily have 4 picks yesterday. 

i don't hate the guy but this year it has become evident that he's not a franchise NFL starter.

Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: ice grillin you on October 06, 2014, 02:38:31 PM
yeah who the hell wants a serviceable or average qb as your starter

i still hark back to the read option stuff too....it takes away so much of chips playbook...it also reduces the rb's effectiveness in the offense...what the farg is the point of the read option offense when the option for the qb to run is not there...you also may be able to get away with subpar wr's if that option stuff is available on the field

but an average pocket qb with weak wr's?....that aint gonna work
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on October 06, 2014, 02:38:41 PM
Agreed on his accuracy...he's been off. His deep balls are way off

Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on October 06, 2014, 02:46:50 PM
Quote
Zach Berman ‏@ZBerm 2m2 minutes ago

Chip Kelly said Foles is throwing off his back foot too much because of the pressure. Said it's "fixable." Product of more pass rush this yr
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: SunMo on October 06, 2014, 02:52:50 PM
there are some time there is legitimate pressure but other times its all in his head
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Eagles_Legendz on October 06, 2014, 05:04:37 PM
Foles, talent wise, probably is someone who is good enough to not farg up a good thing, but isn't going to carry a good squad or make a bad team good.  I know it's not a fair comparison but Andrew Luck on this Eagles team is probably 13-3 and Foles on that Colts team is probably 7-9.

I just don't see anything he's doing well this year.  He has yards because the scheme creates so many short easy throws.  And sure he hasn't been helped much.  I know I shouldn't be admitting this but part of me is starting to get curious what the team would look like with Sanchez (who I don't think is the answer but I think this can be an 11 win team with competent QB play and am worried against tougher competition and a better than expected NFC east you're looking at 8/9 wins unless Foles starts to drastically improve).
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: ice grillin you on October 07, 2014, 10:46:35 AM
buzz saw

http://www.philly.com/philly/blogs/sports/eagles/100614-Buzz-Bissinger-rips-Nick-Foles-again.html
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Rome on October 07, 2014, 11:14:00 AM
No wonder you like that douchebag.

Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: MDS on October 07, 2014, 11:53:12 AM
he hasnt done anything relevant since 1989...he needs to just stop talking

still can write though
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Rome on October 07, 2014, 12:02:23 PM
Amazing writer.  I mean calling someone a chicken?  Holy shtein that's farging brilliant prose, bro!
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Eagles_Legendz on October 07, 2014, 12:02:45 PM
Bissinger is just trying to make waves for himself.  You can say he's not the future without saying you feel vindictated that he's chickenshtein.  In fact, if there's one thing Foles has shown this year, it's that he's tough and can take a shot and not complain.  Also sort of detracts from his pervious stance that the article presented two even sides in terms of positives and negatives re:Foles if you say you feel vindicated when he plays poorly.
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: ice grillin you on October 07, 2014, 12:06:33 PM
b-hop and buzz FTW's

killa bees on a swarm

bzzzzzzzzzzz
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on October 07, 2014, 12:11:58 PM
Buzz is a joke.

If Foles ever leads a deep playoff run or wins a SB he needs to call Buzz and his love for womens clothing and banging trannies out
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: ice grillin you on October 07, 2014, 12:14:38 PM
id rather be gay than be a white bread silver spoon fed chickenshtein mother farger from texas
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Eagles_Legendz on October 07, 2014, 12:16:20 PM
Lol
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on October 07, 2014, 12:19:00 PM
lolol
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: MDS on October 07, 2014, 12:20:04 PM
id rather be gay than be a white bread silver spoon fed chickenshtein mother farger from texas

the only thing wrong with nick, besides the jesus shtein, is a lack of talent. otherwise hes got plenty of proper intangibles.

anyone not named eagles fans knew this....buzz is a worthless pile of irrelevancy trying to capture 15 more seconds of the spotlight that dissipated around the time george hw bush was still president.
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on October 07, 2014, 12:36:09 PM
But...he wrote Friday Night Lights!

SHow some goddamn respect
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on October 08, 2014, 03:00:24 PM
Quote
Zach Berman ‏@ZBerm 18m18 minutes ago

J. Maclin on Eagles' (and Nick Foles') struggles on deep balls: "According to y'all, I can't run and he can't throw, so I don't know."
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: General_Failure on October 08, 2014, 03:04:30 PM
Huh, so he can't run and he's stupid.
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Rome on October 10, 2014, 05:48:34 PM
(http://img.bleacherreport.net/img/images/photos/003/101/966/6c11d4ed7eabe2d9e83ee12d9ae619c9_crop_north.jpg?w=759&h=506&q=75)

Yeah, I don't give a shtein what anyone says about this kid, especially a punk like Buzz Bissinger... Foles is awesome.

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2227471-philadelphia-eagles-sign-15-year-old-leukemia-patient-to-1-day-contract?utm_source=facebook.com&utm_medium=referral&utm_campaign=programming-national
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: General_Failure on October 10, 2014, 05:51:46 PM
Because of that diss, McCoy's gonna go for 200 yards on that kid's mom.

Also, the league fined the Eagles a 4th round pick next year for circumventing the draft process.
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: ice grillin you on October 11, 2014, 11:18:03 AM
wait

pimp did mad anti bullying stuff but hes a farging gold chain wearing gangsta
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: MDS on October 11, 2014, 12:58:52 PM
pimp could murder someone and your knee jerk liberal ass would defend him

let him go...let him go....sing the song from frozen and let him go
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Rome on October 11, 2014, 01:06:42 PM
lol
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: shorebird on October 12, 2014, 06:26:38 AM
pimp could murder someone and your knee jerk liberal ass would defend him

let him go...let him go....sing the song from frozen and let him go

Hahaha! Now that's funny.
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: ice grillin you on October 12, 2014, 01:23:13 PM
conservatives are hilarious
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: MDS on October 12, 2014, 01:33:30 PM
i am a well known republican.
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: ice grillin you on October 12, 2014, 02:32:50 PM
you seem like it
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: MDS on October 12, 2014, 03:26:27 PM
sure?

wait why arent you at the game
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: ice grillin you on October 12, 2014, 04:21:30 PM
cause im on vacation for a month
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: MDS on October 12, 2014, 04:25:13 PM
i thought you didnt miss home games
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: ice grillin you on October 12, 2014, 04:26:44 PM
this is my third miss ever

2003 car broke down
2009 was being a baby cause they lost to the skins the week before so i boycotted
today
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: MDS on October 12, 2014, 04:28:51 PM
wasnt that 2008? they lost to wash pro team in week 16...then beat dallas in week 17 to get in when 100000 things shook out right. i was at the wash pro team game at fedex. thats where i met matty.
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: shorebird on October 13, 2014, 10:45:07 AM
Well at this point it looks like Foles is not even close to the qb we saw last year. I don't think he'll ever be that good again but he has to play better than what he is playing now if this team expects to go anywhere in the playoffs. He's turning the ball over way too much and flat out missing open receivers down field. If he doesn't step it up Chip will be drafting his replacement.
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: smeags on October 13, 2014, 11:04:50 AM
he's too white.
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: ice grillin you on October 13, 2014, 01:23:35 PM
wasnt that 2008? they lost to wash pro team in week 16...then beat dallas in week 17 to get in when 100000 things shook out right. i was at the wash pro team game at fedex. thats where i met matty.

yeah i guess it was....that dallas game is the one i pouted over and missed
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: shorebird on October 13, 2014, 02:25:53 PM
he's too white.

For Igor, yes. Good thing he's not a running back or linebacker.
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: General_Failure on October 13, 2014, 06:08:40 PM
Code: [Select]
Player Team Pos Comp Att Pct Att/G Yds Avg Yds/G TD Int 1st 1st% Lng 20+ 40+ Sck Rate
Nick Foles PHI QB 141 237 59.5 39.5 1,628 6.9 271.3 10 7 77 32.5 68T 22 4 7 82.0
Kirk Cousins WAS QB 116 188 61.7 37.6 1,571 8.4 314.2 10 8 70 37.2 81T 24 7 7 88.3
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Tomahawk on October 13, 2014, 09:12:08 PM
Why can't we delete a post? farging liberal conspiracy
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Tomahawk on October 13, 2014, 09:13:13 PM
Code: [Select]
Player Team Pos Comp Att Pct Att/G Yds Avg Yds/G TD Int 1st 1st% Lng 20+ 40+ Sck Rate
Nick Foles PHI QB 141 237 59.5 39.5 1,628 6.9 271.3 10 7 77 32.5 68T 22 4 7 82.0
Kirk Cousins WAS QB 116 188 61.7 37.6 1,571 8.4 314.2 10 8 70 37.2 81T 24 7 7 88.3

GET COUSINS!!!
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: General_Failure on October 13, 2014, 09:17:53 PM
Both of those sacks of crap are probably going to be among the dozen or so QBs who hit 4,000 yards this season. Remember when those were kind of rare?
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: phattymatty on October 13, 2014, 10:03:53 PM
this is my third miss ever

2003 car broke down
2009 was being a baby cause they lost to the skins the week before so i boycotted
today

lions game last year hello.
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: MDS on October 13, 2014, 10:29:54 PM
lol he missed the snow bowl?

new name is frigy. the f is for FRAUD
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Rome on October 14, 2014, 03:36:28 AM
Legit LOL
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: ice grillin you on October 14, 2014, 07:52:40 AM
this is my third miss ever

2003 car broke down
2009 was being a baby cause they lost to the skins the week before so i boycotted
today

lions game last year hello.

wrong
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: ice grillin you on October 14, 2014, 08:02:55 AM
Code: [Select]
Player Team Pos Comp Att Pct Att/G Yds Avg Yds/G TD Int 1st 1st% Lng 20+ 40+ Sck Rate
Nick Foles PHI QB 141 237 59.5 39.5 1,628 6.9 271.3 10 7 77 32.5 68T 22 4 7 82.0
Kirk Cousins WAS QB 116 188 61.7 37.6 1,571 8.4 314.2 10 8 70 37.2 81T 24 7 7 88.3

GET COUSINS!

i cant wait for chip to get a real qb in this offense
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: ice grillin you on October 14, 2014, 08:07:25 AM
this is my third miss ever

2003 car broke down
2009 was being a baby cause they lost to the skins the week before so i boycotted
today

lions game last year hello.

wrong

oh no...matty is 100% right....snow game i could not drive in...good call
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Seabiscuit36 on October 14, 2014, 08:10:50 AM
It didnt start snowing till noon that day? 
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: ice grillin you on October 14, 2014, 08:13:47 AM
i dont remember....shtein i didnt remember not going....i just remember being so glad I didn't have to drive home
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: smeags on October 14, 2014, 08:19:03 AM
lol he missed the snow bowl?

new name is frigy. the f is for FRAUD

easily your greatest contribution to this board.

 :-D :-D
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: ice grillin you on October 14, 2014, 08:22:04 AM
i love arguing about going to eagle games with people who dont go to eagle games
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Rome on October 14, 2014, 08:33:52 AM
Have you ever thought of, you know, not arguing?  Because that would be a refreshing change around here.



Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: ice grillin you on October 14, 2014, 08:34:56 AM
actually no

what fun would that be
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: MDS on October 14, 2014, 12:00:55 PM
decent point
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Tomahawk on October 14, 2014, 01:17:21 PM
Code: [Select]
Player Team Pos Comp Att Pct Att/G Yds Avg Yds/G TD Int 1st 1st% Lng 20+ 40+ Sck Rate
Nick Foles PHI QB 141 237 59.5 39.5 1,628 6.9 271.3 10 7 77 32.5 68T 22 4 7 82.0
Kirk Cousins WAS QB 116 188 61.7 37.6 1,571 8.4 314.2 10 8 70 37.2 81T 24 7 7 88.3

GET COUSINS!

i cant wait for chip to get a real qb in this offense

I can't wait for the Eagles to have a legit QB period....it's been since 2003
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: smeags on October 14, 2014, 01:49:29 PM
such a shame they are stuck with such a major stiff like foles.
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: MDS on October 14, 2014, 01:57:25 PM
foles isnt bad....but it certainly makes you wonder how good chips offense could be with a good qb. imagine rodgers. or russell wilson.
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: ice grillin you on October 14, 2014, 01:58:16 PM
its not a shame but they could be doing so much better.....imagine having a guy who isnt a statuesque turnover machine
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: General_Failure on October 14, 2014, 01:58:38 PM
Or just one receiver who could stretch the field. I mean, could you imagine if they had a guy like that?
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Tomahawk on October 14, 2014, 01:59:12 PM
False...I came to the conclusion that Foles is terrible. Draft a new qb right now.
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: smeags on October 14, 2014, 02:01:29 PM
 :-D :-D
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Eagles_Legendz on October 14, 2014, 02:02:32 PM
I think the Jaguars game and the flack Foles deservedly got from holding the ball forever has gotten in his head a bit.  He can make good throws when in rhythm but I feel like he's so fixated on not being sacked that he often makes terrible decisions now when the pocket collapses around him and doesn't have the physical tools (mobility or arm) to compensate for those decisions.
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: ice grillin you on October 14, 2014, 02:02:37 PM
Or just one receiver who could stretch the field. I mean, could you imagine if they had a guy like that?

well yeah that too

the system clearly works but system should never take priority over talent....why the farg would you not stock it with the best possible players
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Tomahawk on October 14, 2014, 02:13:47 PM
Ask Andy Reid...same story; innovative (at the time) system, but refused to get talent. I don't think Kelly is quite as bad, but then again KKKooper and Casey farging Matthews are still on the team.

Legendz, Foles will have to make a major turnaround after the Super Bowl run begins with the Panthers game, otherwise I'd rather see the Eagles get a new qb.
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: MDS on October 14, 2014, 02:25:00 PM
Or just one receiver who could stretch the field. I mean, could you imagine if they had a guy like that?

well yeah that too

the system clearly works but system should never take priority over talent....why the farg would you not stock it with the best possible players

because he didnt want to put up with your boy anymore....he thought he was replaceable. stop. stop. stop. stop. pots. stop. red sign.
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: ice grillin you on October 14, 2014, 02:36:06 PM
POTS!
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: General_Failure on October 14, 2014, 02:47:29 PM
He is replaceable, they just didn't replace him yet. Apparently Chipper wants a replacement that's 6'4, and those just don't show up everyday. Also, they're sure as hell not named Riley Cooper.
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Rome on October 14, 2014, 03:35:58 PM
Imagine how much better they could be than 5-1.
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: AO1 on October 14, 2014, 03:37:03 PM
Imagine how much better they could be than 5-1.

Exactly...if Foles were more mobile he could have run it in from the 3 vs. the Niners instead of airing one over the endzone.

6-0
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: smeags on October 14, 2014, 03:38:04 PM
cut him now !
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: ice grillin you on October 14, 2014, 03:38:43 PM
Imagine how much better they could be than 5-1.

Exactly...if Foles were more mobile he could have run it in from the 3 vs. the Niners instead of airing one over the endzone.

6-0

ha
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: ice grillin you on October 14, 2014, 03:41:19 PM
im continually amazed at fans of a team who hasnt won in over half a century being so easily satisfied
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: smeags on October 14, 2014, 03:48:31 PM
true, this fanbase needs more fans to piss and moan about wanting a change at qb after 6 games and a 5-1 record.

cause that keepin it real yo.
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: AO1 on October 14, 2014, 03:52:34 PM
true, this fanbase needs more fans to piss and moan about wanting a change at qb after 6 games and a 5-1 record.

cause that keepin it real yo.

Nobody is talking about changing the QB to Sanchez this season...maybe a select few idiots. But moving forward it's becoming obvious Foles isn't the guy. FYI- He leads the league in turnovers.
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Rome on October 14, 2014, 03:57:01 PM
They're not going to get anyone else to run the offense until next year at the earliest, so continually pining about whoever that might be now is insufferably stupid and pointless.

They're 5-1 with a zesty defense, unearthly special teams and an offense that's up and down because of injuries.

But they're still 5-1.  Yeah, I'm happy about that and for the moment I don't care if Marcus Mariotta is running the offense in 2016.
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: smeags on October 14, 2014, 04:00:41 PM
no no no, lets sit and discuss the next draft class of qb's now. it's the bye week afterall and the team is already out of the playoff picture.
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Eagles_Legendz on October 14, 2014, 04:02:05 PM
It's a weird balance.  I think they're winning in spite of him instead of because of him but it's also obvious you can win with him.  The question is can you go deep in the playoffs with Foles at QB?

They're in a weird spot because I haven't seen anything to merit giving him big $, but they also aren't going to be drafting high enough to pick an elite qb and any rookie QB you start will probably be worse than what you're getting now from Foles. 

Say the team goes 12-4 and loses in the NFC champ game.  You can't sell a rookie QB that may take the team backwards next year & swapping him out for another veteran usually doesn't work.  So I don't know what the solution is.

Obviously Foles may be great the rest of the year and this is all irrelevant but if the pass rush stays legit and can mask some of the problems at CB, this team has the potential to make a serious run if they get solid QB play and it's worrisome that Foles may be a block to them doing real damage this year.

I think there's something to be said for enjoying where the team is at and the success it's had while still being able to acknowledge that the most important part of the team (other than Kelly I think) has been a weak point.
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Rome on October 14, 2014, 04:03:41 PM
At this point I hope Foles is the quarterback of the team for the next 10 years just to spite these jackasses.

He'll win (4) Super Bowls but I'm sure someone will bitch that he won them against inferior competition or could have won (5).  That's how we roll here.
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: smeags on October 14, 2014, 04:06:42 PM
i'll wait to judge him. he certainly isnt having a great year so far but he's in his 2nd year, 1st as the named starter. lets see if he can work through this.

personally, i think he is being traded unless they win the super bowl this year.
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Eagles_Legendz on October 14, 2014, 04:07:09 PM
I actually think the defense has been pretty good for long stretches this year when you look at things like points per possession and the position the offense has put them in.

They were zesty for a half against Jacksonville and then played well.
They played pretty well against a good Indy offense.  They had a very good game against Luck who is ripping everyone else up.
They played pretty well against SF for most of the game.  They were on the field for 3 extra possessions due to return TDs, had short fields due to offense never crossing midfield but played well other than one breakdown on the freak Gore TD catch.
Played well against the Rams until they went into soft prevent.
Played great last week.

They were awful against the taterskins.  They have problems in spots but the D has actually been solid I think.  D & ST have been more consistent than the O.
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on October 14, 2014, 04:09:38 PM
I think the Jaguars game and the flack Foles deservedly got from holding the ball forever has gotten in his head a bit.  He can make good throws when in rhythm but I feel like he's so fixated on not being sacked that he often makes terrible decisions now when the pocket collapses around him and doesn't have the physical tools (mobility or arm) to compensate for those decisions.

I think there is some truth to this...the pick he threw to Rolle Chip said he was trying to throw it out of bounds....so he panicked and made an awful throw.
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Eagles_Legendz on October 14, 2014, 04:09:51 PM
At this point I hope Foles is the quarterback of the team for the next 10 years just to spite these jackasses.

He'll win (4) Super Bowls but I'm sure someone will bitch that he won them against inferior competition or could have won (5).  That's how we roll here.

I think Foles is a competent QB.  I like him, he's tough, his teammates seem to like him.  I'd love for him to be the best QB in the league the next ten years.  But it's not just being a contrarian to express concern on an off week when you look ahead to the rest of the year.  Thrilled with where the team is.  Not as thrilled with Foles' play but there is time for it to improve.
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: ice grillin you on October 14, 2014, 04:10:47 PM
He'll win (4) Super Bowls

lol
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: General_Failure on October 14, 2014, 04:27:02 PM
As the head coach of the London Bucs.
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: rjs246 on October 14, 2014, 06:02:07 PM
Foles is the worst and the world is ending/has ended. It burns when I pee.
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: hbionic on October 14, 2014, 06:12:18 PM
Squirrels. You didn't mention squirrels. What about the squirrels!?
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: General_Failure on October 14, 2014, 06:49:43 PM
They all need a good fisting, I know that much.
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on October 14, 2014, 07:23:41 PM
Say squirrel around here and people wanna cook those fargers up and eat them
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Diomedes on October 14, 2014, 10:37:51 PM
Squirrel pot pie, mmm.
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Tomahawk on October 15, 2014, 12:26:29 PM
Two of my favorite things...pot & pie
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Diomedes on October 17, 2014, 05:16:56 PM
http://instagram.com/p/uO-Pb1CGdh/
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Rome on October 17, 2014, 05:35:51 PM
I literally can't wait till IGY watches that.  It might just be the push he needs to finally off himself.
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: ice grillin you on October 17, 2014, 05:43:03 PM
thanks to you no chance im even hitting the link to see what it is
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Rome on October 17, 2014, 05:57:51 PM
Please, please please watch it.

I beg of you.

Puhleeeeeeeaze!
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Eagaholic on October 17, 2014, 06:08:07 PM
lol
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Diomedes on October 18, 2014, 12:32:47 AM
aw, you're missing out man
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: hbionic on October 18, 2014, 05:40:00 PM
I love the last part. How does he expect the ref to respond to that?

Ref: "Wait a minute, you're telling me that guy that was just bent like a pretzel, wearing an Eagles uniform, on the same team you play on, is your teammate? That's pretty hard to believe, and I believe everything."
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Eagaholic on October 18, 2014, 07:34:37 PM
Chuggie, that there's pretty close to needing a spoiler alert for igy.
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: General_Failure on October 18, 2014, 07:39:06 PM
He's never going to click it, so you might as well spoil the whole thing for him.

Anyway, here's some Washington players talking shtein about Foles for no reason. http://bit.ly/ZJZKJs
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on October 18, 2014, 08:47:16 PM
Lolol
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Eagaholic on October 18, 2014, 09:20:15 PM
Haha
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Rome on October 18, 2014, 09:28:11 PM
I can't believe DeSean said that.  I thought he and Foles were friendly at one point?

Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: ice grillin you on October 19, 2014, 02:54:26 AM
just shut this board down
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Geowhizzer on October 19, 2014, 08:29:59 AM
Alright, I clicked the link, and all I see is a picture of Foles.  There is a play icon over the picture, but nothing happens when I click it.  Do I actually have to go to the trouble of creating an account to see it?
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Diomedes on October 19, 2014, 08:30:37 AM
No.  It ought to just play for you like any other video when you click the arrow.
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Rome on October 19, 2014, 08:55:05 AM
just shut this board down

It's annoying when motherfargers troll your ass, isn't it?
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: General_Failure on October 19, 2014, 09:11:29 AM
(http://i.imgur.com/B8mDT.gif)
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: ice grillin you on October 19, 2014, 11:35:42 AM
just shut this board down

It's annoying when motherfargers troll your ass, isn't it?

not as annoying as nick foles suckling
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Rome on October 19, 2014, 11:36:26 AM
Except no one here is doing that whereas you, well, you know...
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: General_Failure on October 25, 2014, 10:48:33 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s5iVOH8QCAU
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: ice grillin you on October 28, 2014, 07:50:15 AM
Quote
Nick Foles is a lesser quarterback this season than last in every meaningful regard, and this must change if the Eagles are to be taken seriously as Super Bowl contenders. These truths are clear when you watch him on the field, when you examine his statistics, when you listen to Chip Kelly fall back on the tired trope Monday of pointing to Foles' win-loss record as an accurate measure of his play and progress.
 
"What's our record now, 5-2? Nick's 5-2, in my opinion," Kelly said one day after Foles threw two costly interceptions in the Eagles' 24-20 loss to the Arizona Cardinals. "I think you rate your quarterback in terms of how you're winning and how you're losing."
 
Kelly is too smart, too forward-thinking, to believe this. All he has to do is look down the bench at Mark Sanchez - whom the New York Jets handed a three-year, $40.5 million extension in 2012, based on two appearances in the AFC championship game - to remember the oft-false hope inherent in judging a quarterback solely by his team's success.
 
Kelly's words are a convenient cover for a quarterback who has committed the second-most turnovers in the NFL, who isn't playing with enough consistency to keep Kelly's offense humming at optimum effectiveness and efficiency, who has developed a bad habit of backpedaling and throwing off his back foot whenever he senses a blitz.

"At times, he probably shouldn't have gone as far," Kelly said. "You feel something coming. You think it's there. You've got to set your feet and take that hit, and there were times he set his feet and took the hit and delivered the ball on time. It's not just one thing."
 
If it's still an open question as to why the problems with Foles' throwing mechanics developed (Has he taken too many big hits? Is he unsure of what he's seeing from opposing defenses?), there's no doubt about the drop-off in his quality of play. The traditional measures used to gauge quarterbacks - completion percentage, yards per attempt, interception percentage, passer rating - demonstrate as much, but the concern goes beyond those numbers. The statistical and scouting firm Pro Football Focus isn't infallible, but it does an excellent job of going beyond the basics of a box score or a play-by-play sheet to show a player's growth or regression. And make no mistake: Foles has regressed.
 
Consider:
 
Pro Football Focus tracks accuracy percentage - a figure that takes dropped passes, spikes, and throwaways into account when judging whether a quarterback delivers the football on target to a receiver. Foles' accuracy percentage last season was 74.2, the sixth-best among all 27 quarterbacks who took at least 50 percent of their teams' dropbacks. This season, it's 67.6, worst in the league.
 
Foles' deep-passing accuracy in 2013 was 45.5 percent, the seventh-best mark among the 21 QBs who took half their teams' dropbacks. This season, it's 35.1 percent - the 12th-best mark out of 13 ranked quarterbacks so far.
 
Despite significant injuries to two starters on the Eagles' offensive line, center Jason Kelce and guard Evan Mathis, Foles hasn't seen a marked increase in pass pressure from opposing defenses. In fact, according to Pro Football Focus, defenses have pressured him a bit less frequently this season (33.2 percent of the time) than they did last season (34.3 percent). On average, he's had 2.81 seconds to throw in 2014 - still the sixth-highest time per throw in the league and only a slight recession from last season, when the Eagles' line gave him an average of 3.11 seconds.
 
Nevertheless, Foles' accuracy when he's been under pressure has plummeted from 68.1 percent last year to 50.0 percent this year. Those downfield overthrows to Jeremy Maclin and Zach Ertz really are happening more frequently. Would Foles' overall accuracy be better if DeSean Jackson were still around? Maybe, but it's difficult to imagine that Jackson's departure is the sole reason for such a pronounced decline.
 
Look, no one expected, or should have expected, Foles to reproduce what he did last year: the 27 touchdowns, the two interceptions, the Roy Hobbs-like way he played after stepping in for Michael Vick. No one expected him to be that good again, but he has to be better than this. His coach knows it, too, even if he can't say it.
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Eagaholic on October 28, 2014, 08:22:28 AM
You can't go by those statistics and metrics. You have to be able to watch with your own eyes and analyze.
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: ice grillin you on October 28, 2014, 08:29:19 AM
ive watched all the games....hes been BAD
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: AO1 on October 28, 2014, 08:31:26 AM
You can't go by those statistics and metrics. You have to be able to watch with your own eyes and analyze.

Agreed

He's been under a lot more pressure this season and he doesn't have the run game to keep defenses honest. There's constant pressure up the middle. Last season was a perfect storm for him, he had the best O line in the league, the best RB in the league, was an unknown as was Chip's offense. He just had to play mistake free and put the ball where his receivers could make plays. There were no high % throws. This season the O line is banged up and his running game hasn't taken off, so he's had to shoulder the load. Nick Foles shouldn't be shouldering the load.
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: ice grillin you on October 28, 2014, 08:41:12 AM
trust me i watch every game at least twice...once being the all 22

other than perhaps the first half in indy.....the oline has been well above average in pass protect all year

other than the obivous physical limitations he has....the thing hurting him most is no desean...or if you hate desean then at least some sort of downfield threat...their deep production has fallen off a cliff
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: AO1 on October 28, 2014, 08:52:44 AM
The thing that's hurt him most is the running game, and there's never a pocket for him to throw from. I watch every game twice too, he's been under constant pressure and he's a statue.


Not really sure what your end game is here, aside from J nobody is arguing he's a good QB or that we don't need to go in a new direction.
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on October 28, 2014, 08:58:10 AM
Yeah I don't think I am like a super Foles fan or anything - he's got blemishes and issues in his mechanics that need to be cleaned up.

He's had a pocket to step up into and yet he still backpedals. I'd love to sit in on the QB meetings where they look at the film and hear his reasoning for continuously throwing off his back foot.

Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: ice grillin you on October 28, 2014, 08:59:13 AM
by suggesting he hasnt had time to throw is giving him an out...theres really no excuse for him but if you wanna find one it would be that the wr's are not nearly as open as last year as they dont have the room they used to with pimp in the lineup....theres a reason wash leads the nfl in down the field plays even tho they have had horrific qb'ing while the eagles production in that dept has taken a huge hit

eagles have the 4th most pass attempts in the nfl and the fewest sacks allowed...trust me hes had ample time to throw all year

yes their run blocking has been bad...but amazingly that hasnt led to him not having time to throw....hes just been terribly inaccurate and mechanically flawed
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: phattymatty on October 28, 2014, 09:01:15 AM
regardless of how the line has been this year, one of the reasons he was so good last year was that he was 2 or 3 steps then bam, ball was out. now he taps it so many times, even when the WR is wide open. its really a weird habit to all of a sudden pick up.
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: AO1 on October 28, 2014, 09:08:52 AM
by suggesting he hasnt had time to throw is giving him an out

There is no 'out' for him. He's not good. In an offense where he just had to not mess up (last season) he did well. In an offense where there isn't a running game to take pressure off/dominant O line/wide open WRs he can't carry the load.
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: ice grillin you on October 28, 2014, 09:11:49 AM
regardless of how the line has been this year, one of the reasons he was so good last year was that he was 2 or 3 steps then bam, ball was out. now he taps it so many times, even when the WR is wide open. its really a weird habit to all of a sudden pick up.


yeah he is definitely much more hesistant this year causing him to miss a lot of people....matthews was sickenly free and clear on the final play sunday but for some reason he held the ball too long which 1. made it a sideline throw that he sailed cause he was backing up and 2. allowed ertz man to peel off and help....if he just stands in and throws that ball on time its an easy touchdown

rewatching that play makes me ill
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: General_Failure on October 28, 2014, 09:14:18 AM
If I had to throw deep to Riley Cooper a minimum of twice a game, I'd be hesitant to throw to anyone, too.


I will continue to blame Riley Cooper until he's replaced, even if he did have a good catch in this game.
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: phattymatty on October 28, 2014, 09:19:58 AM
looked like he bobbled it to me.
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: General_Failure on October 28, 2014, 09:45:20 AM
Right, it was a good Riley Cooper catch.
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: ice grillin you on October 30, 2014, 02:08:38 PM
from domo:

Quote
Nick Foles continues to struggle. He threw two more interceptions last week in the loss to the Cardinals, bringing his season turnover total to 12 (nine interceptions, three lost fumbles. He’s 28th in completion percentage (59.2) and 26th in yards per attempt (6.9). His decision-making and footwork both have been inconsistent, even though he’s actually been pressured a little less than he was last year. He’s been sacked a league-low 7 times. He hasn’t been productive in the red zone (70.0 passer rating) or on third down (71.5). When he has been successful on third down, it’s usually been on throws to tight end Zack Ertz. Ertz has 24 catches, 14 of which have been on third down.
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Eagaholic on October 30, 2014, 10:01:08 PM
regardless of how the line has been this year, one of the reasons he was so good last year was that he was 2 or 3 steps then bam, ball was out. now he taps it so many times, even when the WR is wide open. its really a weird habit to all of a sudden pick up.


yeah he is definitely much more hesistant this year causing him to miss a lot of people....matthews was sickenly free and clear on the final play sunday but for some reason he held the ball too long which 1. made it a sideline throw that he sailed cause he was backing up and 2. allowed ertz man to peel off and help....if he just stands in and throws that ball on time its an easy touchdown

rewatching that play makes me ill


I thought that he held the ball longer than almost all of the QBs in the league last year. Granted he did throw a ton of long balls but I think he and Chipper both said it is one of the things he had to work on this season.
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: ice grillin you on October 31, 2014, 09:00:39 AM
oh he def had this issue last year...but his hesitancy is on another planet this year...and again its not 100% his fault...there arent people running free all over the field this year like they were last year...last year he could hold the ball and have someone running down the field wide open to go to....you seen kkk free this year at all?...last year he was loose a couple times a game it seemed like
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Eagles_Legendz on October 31, 2014, 09:18:32 AM
Cooper sucks, agreed, but there have been enough people open.  One of the main problems as I see it is I can probably count on one hand the number of times Foles has willingly thrown a ball out of bounds this year.  Last year he took too many sacks instead of throwing the ball away.  This year he's holding the ball for the same length of time, but instead of throwing it away he's throwing it up for grabs more or just making terrible decisions trying to fit it into windows that aren't there.   Dude would be a significantly better QB if he threw away about 4 more passes a game.
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: ice grillin you on October 31, 2014, 09:25:13 AM
last year the wr corps had one guy who could get his man one on one...and not only could he get himself open but he was so good at that that he got others open...hes gone....now they have exactly zero people who can consistently get open without the help of his route or the scheme...not taking anything away from mack...hes having a great year...but his numbers are inflated cause hes the best wr in a zesty group in a very good ofensive system...someone has to catch the ball and get the yards...

foles has no arm and largely because of that he is not a qb who can take a three step drop and put the ball in a tight spot...and he knows this which crushes his confidence...and with this group of wr's there are a lot of tight spots
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: AO1 on October 31, 2014, 09:34:46 AM
Foles had it easy last year, he had the best O line and running game in the league...to balance it out he had a deep threat that would keep defenses off balance. Fast forward to this season, he's had more pressure on him...we can argue statistics and sack totals but look test is the pressure up the middle is causing him to panic...which is 100% on him. He's the most uncomfortable QB I have ever seen. I'm surprised a coach like Chip hasn't addressed his issues in the pocket...or maybe he has and Foles hasn't responded.
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: shorebird on October 31, 2014, 12:45:49 PM
All that's been discussed with the line, throwing off his back foot, no deep threat, and no running game to fall back on has resulted in him becoming a turnover machine. He's on a pace for 18-20 ints. I don't want to say he's scared but damn, it's starting to look like it.
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Munson on October 31, 2014, 03:23:53 PM
lol at IGY still hating on Maclin.

Maclin's going to end up with better numbers than Jackson last year, with the exact same supporting cast in the WR core around him, and IGY will say it was all scheme/routes whereas Jackson did it all himself.
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on October 31, 2014, 07:46:18 PM
Yeah Maclin is having a very good season and it isn't because he's the tallest midget in the circus group of WRs.

He's a good receiver
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: General_Failure on October 31, 2014, 08:14:21 PM
That, and they're throwing more than everybody but the Colts.
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: ice grillin you on October 31, 2014, 09:43:29 PM
That, and they're throwing more than everybody but the Colts.

and whos gonna catch those balls...kkk...cement feet?
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: General_Failure on October 31, 2014, 10:42:32 PM
Zach Attack, motherfarger!

But seriously, Maclin's going to have his 80 catches this year if he doesn't get hurt. That's fine, but he'd be the third best receiver in Denver, Chicago, or, surprisingly, Pittsburgh. Matthews is doing as well as Cooper is as the third receiver, but they better hope he steps the farg up next year. They can't go another year with Cooper as the #2 receiver.
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: smeags on October 31, 2014, 11:25:24 PM
I cant a scenerio where matthews doesnt move ahead of cooper. still gonna have to decide if they resign maclin or move on.
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: General_Failure on November 01, 2014, 12:48:14 AM
There's no reason not to resign him, even for a stupid amount of money. 30 teams in the league could easily find a use for him. He's not a top guy, but he's far from awful.
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: ice grillin you on November 01, 2014, 01:41:27 AM
That's fine, but he'd be the third best receiver in Denver, Chicago, or, surprisingly, Pittsburgh.

YES

someone gets it
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Munson on November 02, 2014, 01:22:26 PM
Maclin is definitely not 3rd best in Pittsburgh.

I'd also say he'd be doing just as good as Sanders is in Denver. Sanders wasn't shtein until he played with Manning this year.
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: NC_Eagle on November 02, 2014, 08:55:49 PM
I'll give you that Pimp has better 'home run' potential, but so far this season FWIW:

                                        REC   TGTS   YDS   AVG   LNG   TD   FD
Maclin: 2014 Regular Season   39   76   632   16.2   68   6   27   
Jackson: 2014 Regular Season 32   53   664   20.8   81   3   21

Stat projections have Maclin ending the season with more yards, 1/3 more receptions and twice as many TDs as Jackson. (yeah, yeah, statistics and lies...)

Jackson's had a couple of one catch games too; Maclin has actually been more consistent, which surprised me I admit.
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: ice grillin you on November 02, 2014, 09:02:06 PM
behind mack is probably the worst #2 and 3 wr's in the nfl....also wash qb's have just been brutal

I love mack....but comparing mack to pimp is a joke...pimp is on another planet as a player

heres what I would like....both of them on the same team
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: MDS on November 02, 2014, 09:02:44 PM
culture wins football
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Tomahawk on November 02, 2014, 09:04:07 PM
It's not like Jaccpot had all world qbs in Philly either. In fact, I'd take any one of Washington's QBs over Vick.
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: ice grillin you on November 02, 2014, 09:08:01 PM
It's not like Jaccpot had all world qbs in Philly either. In fact, I'd take any one of Washington's QBs over Vick.

true....hes good enough where the qb doesn't matter cause hes gonna run by anyone and get open

also in fairness to mack his qb has not exactly been tearing it up this year
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: AO1 on November 02, 2014, 09:09:50 PM
behind mack is probably the worst #2 and 3 wr's in the nfl....also wash qb's have just been brutal

Foles has been equally brutal

One team values commitment to a program and another doesn't...guess which one has more wins
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: ice grillin you on November 02, 2014, 09:11:49 PM
lol @ commitment to a program.....that's awesome
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Tomahawk on November 02, 2014, 09:13:16 PM
(http://www.pitofhorror.com/ab/images/theprogram/lat22.jpg)
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: AO1 on November 02, 2014, 09:18:48 PM
lol @ commitment to a program.....that's awesome

6-2 and they ain't the most talented bunch. You said so yourself (and I disagreed) wash has more talent...so what is it then chips play calling? Gotta be something more to it than that
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: BigEd76 on November 02, 2014, 09:53:27 PM
DGunn confirms the earlier reports of broken collarbone.  MRI tomorrow to determine if he comes back or if he's done for the season
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Tomahawk on November 02, 2014, 10:25:32 PM
DGunn confirms the earlier reports of broken collarbone.  MRI tomorrow to determine if he comes back or if he's done for his career in Philly
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on November 02, 2014, 10:47:14 PM
All IN on Strong Arm Sanchize
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Munson on November 02, 2014, 11:18:25 PM
behind mack is probably the worst #2 and 3 wr's in the nfl....also wash qb's have just been brutal

How is this at all different from Jackson last year? Except for, in Jackson's case, his QB was playing much better.
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Eagles_Legendz on November 02, 2014, 11:22:14 PM
Maclin is on pace for 90 catches, 1600 yards, and 16 TDs.  I was not the world's biggest Maclin fan but he's playing like a top-5 WR in the league this year & even better than Jackson did last season.   Foles probably left 250 yards or so on the field the first few weeks with Maclin too.
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Munson on November 02, 2014, 11:27:32 PM
Seriously, I'm not getting the "Worst #2 and #3 WR in the league behind him" comment...it's pretty much the exact same guys that were behind Jackson last year, except this year there's a rookie with some actual athleticism/talent and not Jason Avant.
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: ice grillin you on November 03, 2014, 12:03:35 AM
lol @ commitment to a program.....that's awesome

6-2 and they ain't the most talented bunch. You said so yourself (and I disagreed) wash has more talent...so what is it then chips play calling? Gotta be something more to it than that

chip is 9 million times the coach gruden is...gruden is a joke of a clown...I agree culture matters but wash culture is way worse than the eagles culture of white doods from the west coast is good
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Rome on November 03, 2014, 06:08:05 AM
Nothing says west coast surfers like Shady, Maclin & Jason Peters.
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: AO1 on November 03, 2014, 07:42:57 AM
Nothing says west coast surfers like Shady, Maclin & Jason Peters.

Or Maclolm Jenkins, Cary Williams, Demeco Ryans, Fletcher Cox
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: AO1 on November 03, 2014, 07:46:41 AM
lol @ commitment to a program.....that's awesome

6-2 and they ain't the most talented bunch. You said so yourself (and I disagreed) wash has more talent...so what is it then chips play calling? Gotta be something more to it than that

chip is 9 million times the coach gruden is...gruden is a joke of a clown...I agree culture matters but wash culture is way worse than the eagles culture of white doods from the west coast is good

Throw the word culture out, because every team has their own unique version. Chip has a 'program' in place he expects his players to abide by. They all bought in, you can't have your best offensive player and Veteran not buy into it and expect the rest of the team to play along. It kills me to think about this offense with Mac/Desean but you can't argue with the results. Chip with Mac is 6-2, Gruden with Jackson is 3-6. Both coaches took over losing programs.
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Rome on November 03, 2014, 08:29:58 AM
you can't argue

hahaha
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: ice grillin you on November 03, 2014, 09:35:02 AM
lol @ commitment to a program.....that's awesome

6-2 and they ain't the most talented bunch. You said so yourself (and I disagreed) wash has more talent...so what is it then chips play calling? Gotta be something more to it than that

chip is 9 million times the coach gruden is...gruden is a joke of a clown...I agree culture matters but wash culture is way worse than the eagles culture of white doods from the west coast is good

Throw the word culture out, because every team has their own unique version. Chip has a 'program' in place he expects his players to abide by. They all bought in, you can't have your best offensive player and Veteran not buy into it and expect the rest of the team to play along. It kills me to think about this offense with Mac/Desean but you can't argue with the results. Chip with Mac is 6-2, Gruden with Jackson is 3-6. Both coaches took over losing programs.

one organization has dan snyder as owner and a racist name the other doesnt....wash could have hired chip as their HC and bruce arians as their OC and theyd still suck....and if chip thinks a program is more important than players in the nfl hes in for a rude awakening
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: AO1 on November 03, 2014, 09:57:46 AM
He took a 4-12 team and turned them into a playoff team...he's 15-8 overall. He ousted his best receiver and is still 6-2. Doesn't look like that "Rude awakening" is happening any time soon. The players bought into his system...Desean didn't, went to the highest bidder, and his team blows. Ownership is part of the program, there's a reason Chip went to the Eagles and not a team like the Skins.
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: AO1 on November 03, 2014, 09:57:59 AM
you can't argue

hahaha

ha
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: ice grillin you on November 03, 2014, 10:39:28 AM
He took a 4-12 team and turned them into a playoff team...he's 15-8 overall. He ousted his best receiver and is still 6-2. Doesn't look like that "Rude awakening" is happening any time soon. The players bought into his system...Desean didn't, went to the highest bidder, and his team blows. Ownership is part of the program, there's a reason Chip went to the Eagles and not a team like the Skins.

bruce arians took a 5-11 team in the nfc west and has gone 17-7....chip isn't even the best second year coach in his own conference...nfc east is a joke.....maybe im a curmudgeon but id like one playoff win before I start anointing a "program" or "culture" as the next greatest thing weve ever seen
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Eagles_Legendz on November 03, 2014, 11:16:49 AM
You are being a tad curmudgeony, yes.

I think the problem is you don't really want to assign the credit for the team being 6-2 really to anyone.  Maclin isn't as good as desean, the team isn't that talented, Chip isn't doing that great of a job etc.  The team is obviously doing something right.  If people just read what you posted they would think the team was 2-6 right now.  Maybe the average WIP caller is saying this team is going to win the SB and finish 13-3 but I don't see any of that here & it seems like you're arguing against things people on this site aren't saying. 

This is a flawed football team but one that is also pretty good.  We'll see if they can be anything more than that or whether they're going to finish 10-6 and lose in the first round again.
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: MDS on November 03, 2014, 11:21:38 AM
bruce arians doesnt have a playoff win, much less a playoff game
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: AO1 on November 03, 2014, 11:22:44 AM
From the Chip Kelly thread:

it also scares me that this team isnt exactly chock full of great leaders and men....they didnt respect andy who they supposedly loved and who had coached in the league for 14 years...chip kelly is going to be like the substitute teacher who turns to write on the chalkboard and the kids make fake fart noises

Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: smeags on November 03, 2014, 11:25:58 AM
 :-D

Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on November 03, 2014, 12:01:47 PM
I think the average WIP called is on the "we don't feel like this team is 6-2" train
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Rome on November 03, 2014, 12:23:20 PM
The average WIP caller is a freaking moron.  The average listener only aspires to that level of stupidity.
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: General_Failure on November 03, 2014, 12:29:18 PM
maybe im a curmudgeon but id like one playoff win before I start anointing a "program" or "culture" as the next greatest thing weve ever seen

(http://offtherecordsports.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/03/BuddyRyan.jpg)
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Rome on November 03, 2014, 12:50:35 PM
/end forum
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: MDS on November 03, 2014, 12:53:39 PM
and thats it
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: smeags on November 03, 2014, 12:57:20 PM
buddy ball !
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Munson on November 03, 2014, 01:10:33 PM
(http://i300.photobucket.com/albums/nn40/AppealDenied/House%20MD/ohsnap.gif)
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: smeags on November 03, 2014, 01:19:46 PM
when gregory house says stop, you stop.
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Rome on November 03, 2014, 02:41:26 PM
Pretty sure he's saying, "oh snap."
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: ice grillin you on November 03, 2014, 02:58:28 PM
bruce arians doesnt have a playoff win, much less a playoff game

and rightly no one is anointing him as a genius or revolutionary
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: ice grillin you on November 03, 2014, 03:07:43 PM
You are being a tad curmudgeony, yes.

I think the problem is you don't really want to assign the credit for the team being 6-2 really to anyone.

chip gets the credit along with the schedule...but that doesn't mean he can get rid of great players and not replace them and think you are going to win a title...but he needs another offseason...this offseason will go a long way towards whats more important to him....the "program" or talent
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Munson on November 03, 2014, 03:14:07 PM
Enough with the "not replacing them"....Maclin has more than replaced Jackson so far.


The problem was they didn't add anyone, save Sproles, which to their credit has been a good move so far.
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: smeags on November 03, 2014, 03:26:53 PM
Pretty sure he's saying, "oh snap."

you are def better at reading a man's lips.
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: General_Failure on November 03, 2014, 03:33:03 PM
Enough with the "not replacing them"....Maclin has more than replaced Jackson so far.

Maclin's got the lead on 20+ yard receptions, but Jackson's ahead in 40+ yard receptions, where they're #1 and #2 in the NFL right now. If Chip stops trying to convince people Riley Cooper is any kind of a deep threat, they might stop turning the ball over so often and maybe let Maclin catch up. They probably play a couple of really zesty defenses still, right?
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Munson on November 03, 2014, 03:37:24 PM
Enough with the "not replacing them"....Maclin has more than replaced Jackson so far.

Maclin's got the lead on 20+ yard receptions, but Jackson's ahead in 40+ yard receptions, where they're #1 and #2 in the NFL right now. If Chip stops trying to convince people Riley Cooper is any kind of a deep threat, they might stop turning the ball over so often and maybe let Maclin catch up. They probably play a couple of really zesty defenses still, right?

After the last two games and the big plays, teams might start playing Maclin a little more carefully and stop selling out to stop Shady. But yeah, deep bombs to Riley Cooper need to stop right away.
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: General_Failure on November 03, 2014, 03:40:15 PM
Also, they might not leave backup corners on him alone. Maybe.
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Eagaholic on November 03, 2014, 03:42:48 PM
They still have this idea that they can throw the ball up for grabs and let their big strong WRs out-muscle the DBs and come down with it. They need to let that go.
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Rome on November 03, 2014, 04:02:09 PM
Pretty sure he's saying, "oh snap."

you are def better at reading a man's lips.

True but I saw that episode.  I liked the "13" chick a lot.
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: BigEd76 on November 03, 2014, 04:54:40 PM
Schefter reporting no surgery for Foles
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Eagaholic on November 03, 2014, 06:29:47 PM
a little more info
Quote
Foles sustained a crack in his clavicle in the first quarter of Sunday's win over Houston. The team has not announced a timetable for his return, but expect him to miss from six to eight weeks.


Could be interesting if Sanchez gets them to the playoffs and Foles then becomes available. They will play Foles as a tune up for last 1 or 2 meaningless regular season games with home field advantage locked up, is my guess.
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Eagles_Legendz on November 03, 2014, 06:38:41 PM
If the Eagles have played well enough to have HFA "locked up" I don't see how Foles sees the field again. 
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Eagaholic on November 03, 2014, 06:42:32 PM
Agree, was just joking. Despite the crappy conference I see no chance they have home field advantage throughout.
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Tomahawk on November 04, 2014, 08:52:41 AM
Foles is done as an Eagle. Book it, Dan-o
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: phattymatty on November 04, 2014, 09:00:20 AM
considering not a single person here gives a shtein about our starting QB being out, even though there are only like 7 people who post here I think that's a pretty good indicator of the fan base in general.

bye nick.
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: QB Eagles on November 04, 2014, 09:23:40 AM
Backup QB is the most popular guy on the Eagles like 90% of the time. Things will change after a few quarters or a few games, when everyone remembers that Sanchez is a horrible 55% completion rate QB who is usually even worse than Foles has been this year. That said, he's close enough to Foles to make Ryans the far bigger Week 9 loss.
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: General_Failure on November 04, 2014, 09:37:42 AM
Matt Barkley will never be popular.
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: ice grillin you on November 04, 2014, 10:30:26 AM
Backup QB is the most popular guy on the Eagles like 90% of the time. Things will change after a few quarters or a few games, when everyone remembers that Sanchez is a horrible 55% completion rate QB who is usually even worse than Foles has been this year.

im not saying he will definitely be better than foles (altho it would be hard not to be) but his jet numbers are completely irrelevant right now

Foles is done as an Eagle. Book it, Dan-o

http://www.nj.com/eagles/index.ssf/2014/11/eagles_started_to_sour_on_nick_foles_before_his_injury.html
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on November 04, 2014, 02:33:35 PM
Thankfully they didn't draft Cousins instead.

He's worse than Foles

Interesting article tho
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: ice grillin you on November 04, 2014, 02:59:25 PM
ive said it since day one chip kelly wants a quarterback that can move....if he fell into a brady he obviously would change the offense and go with it...but someone like foles whose other skills dont outweight the fact hes a statue is not going to cut it in his offense....thats why i think they knew foles was not the guy even last year
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: hbionic on November 04, 2014, 03:06:43 PM
Running ability is overrated. Quick, correct decisions from a statue trump speed. Unfortunately, instead of improving on what Foles did last season, he literally backtracked. Speed is the answer, but not necessarily in foot speed.
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: ice grillin you on November 04, 2014, 03:09:19 PM
running ability is certainly not overrated in a read option offense
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: MDS on November 04, 2014, 03:18:31 PM
its just not running ability

foles couldnt be rolled out...he couldnt move in the pocket...hes a literal, figurative statue
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: ice grillin you on November 04, 2014, 03:21:18 PM
i agree with all that but specifically to the read option you need to be a legit running threat for it to work to its full capability

and thats not to diminish the abilty to throw the ball thats still most important obviously...but this isnt the 80's where defenders could literally maul wr's and get away with it...thus making pinpoint accuracy...size of the qb....pocket presence much more important....the league favors offense now so much that you dont need to be that classic stand tall in the pocket and sling the ball into tight spots to win
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: smeags on November 04, 2014, 03:28:08 PM
foles was never chip's guy. not sure anyone can dispute really.

i still say this year was all about trying to win while showcasing foles for a trade during next year's draft. for what i dont know because his value was unknown.
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: MDS on November 04, 2014, 04:24:36 PM
foles was never chip's guy. not sure anyone can dispute really.

rome threw a temper tantrum a week ago on this very subject
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: smeags on November 04, 2014, 04:52:24 PM
yeah but its true. im sure chip hoped foles would workout this season but ultimately I think he was getting traded  unless he won a super bowl.
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Eagaholic on November 27, 2014, 01:26:22 AM
Quote
Jeff McLane, Inquirer Staff Writer
Posted: Thursday, November 27, 2014, 3:01 AM

Those hoping that St. Nick will arrive in late December may be disappointed.

No, not that guy.

Nick Foles hasn't yet been scheduled for a follow-up exam on his broken collarbone, although it is likely to happen next week, and the original prognosis that he would be out for six to eight weeks could be an optimistic one, according to sources close to the situation.

His left clavicle has to be "more than" healed because of the type of fracture Foles suffered on Nov. 2 against the Texans, one source said. The bone has to be strong enough for the Eagles quarterback to sustain contact, otherwise another blow could cause further harm.
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: ice grillin you on November 27, 2014, 01:35:49 AM
what a shame
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Eagaholic on November 27, 2014, 01:56:40 AM
will be if sanchez goes down near the end of the season
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: MDS on November 27, 2014, 02:20:46 AM
does anyone still like little nicky
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: General_Failure on November 27, 2014, 08:26:40 AM
He's more likely to recover than RG3, so sure. I hope he winds up with an AFC team and does well.
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Diomedes on November 27, 2014, 08:35:35 AM
I like him better than Sanchez.
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Sgt PSN on November 27, 2014, 09:35:08 AM
does anyone still like little nicky

Sure, why not?  He's not the future but I don't hate the guy. And he's still better than Sanchez.
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Munson on November 27, 2014, 09:49:20 AM
I also like him better than Sanchez. Also willing to give him the benefit of the doubt on his performance this year. He wasn't the same guy after he got beat up in the taterskins game. He wasn't GREAT before that game, but he was decent enough. Not nearly as bad as he was after taht game.
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: AO1 on November 27, 2014, 09:55:34 AM
Foles is better than Sanchez. Neither are the answer. Foles would do well on a team like the Bears where he can just float balls all over the field and let his receivers go up and make plays. Eagles probably aren't getting a Mariotta but maybe they can find a guy similar to Tanehill later in the draft. 2015 QB class isn't horrible.
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: ice grillin you on November 27, 2014, 09:55:53 AM
does anyone still like little nicky
He's not the future but I don't hate the guy.

hes not hatable but hes super annoying

i particularly hate his attitude....hes way to nice
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: MDS on November 27, 2014, 11:07:31 AM
foles is not better than sanchez

that's how bad foles is
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Diomedes on November 27, 2014, 11:28:38 AM
let's argue about which career backup is best

what fun
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: MDS on November 27, 2014, 11:37:52 AM
arguing about sports isnt fun to people who dont like sports
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: General_Failure on November 27, 2014, 01:03:01 PM
I'm thankful you're here to puff out your chest and take these hard stances on topics no one actually gives a farg about.
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Eagaholic on November 27, 2014, 04:27:03 PM
Ha
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: MDS on November 27, 2014, 08:33:17 PM
I'm thankful you're here to puff out your chest and take these hard stances on topics no one actually gives a farg about.

arguing about sports isnt fun to people who dont like sports
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Diomedes on November 27, 2014, 08:38:59 PM
It's the arguing part I don't like, shteinfarg.

Can't we all get along?
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: MDS on November 27, 2014, 08:40:23 PM
once you sign up for the sanchize
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Rome on March 06, 2015, 08:25:17 PM
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-f-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xaf1/v/t1.0-9/q84/p720x720/11042652_855353511169090_471829468219525824_n.jpg?oh=b5fc4036eea4eb791556fd7e9bb2107d&oe=5591298C&__gda__=1438559232_60d9c2459928b3f857e81c71ba2803c6)

this might just be the thing that pushes igy over the edge for good...
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: ice grillin you on March 06, 2015, 08:53:20 PM
yeah bose isnt really my thing....im more a beats by dre guy
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: General_Failure on March 06, 2015, 09:53:24 PM
Go ahead, throw your money away.
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on March 09, 2015, 10:15:00 AM
http://www.bleedinggreennation.com/2015/3/9/8174857/nick-foles-trade-rumors-eagles-quarterback-rams-titans-texans-senior-bowl-interest
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: AO1 on March 09, 2015, 10:25:46 AM
http://www.bleedinggreennation.com/2015/3/9/8174857/nick-foles-trade-rumors-eagles-quarterback-rams-titans-texans-senior-bowl-interest

Mariota isn't happening. Do they take Hundley, let Sanchez start next season, then Hundley starts the following season?
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Rome on March 09, 2015, 02:00:48 PM
If Mariota isn't the answer then you might as well stick with Foles.
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Eagaholic on March 09, 2015, 03:09:17 PM
Jury is still out on Foles. He had a phenomenal season 2 yrs ago and mediocre last year. He's not a great fit and doubt he is a top 3 QB again but he still could be very good. Some weapons might help though.
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Eagles_Legendz on March 09, 2015, 03:47:01 PM
I think Foles can put up borderline very good numbers in this offense given perfect corcumstances (those circumstances don't exist with a WR corps headed by Riley Cooper).  I do not think he can be a very good player overall. Jury is out to me as to whether he can be an average starter or good backup.  Those represent his ceiling and floor IMO.
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on March 10, 2015, 04:00:17 PM
UMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM

TRADED TO STL FOR SAM BRADFORD

WTF!!
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: AO1 on March 11, 2015, 12:16:27 PM
(https://scontent.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpf1/v/t1.0-9/10985379_10153265512297873_5123951762133157284_n.jpg?oh=38e7689f46b401938881975026190ed9&oe=558DE7E7)
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on February 07, 2016, 11:55:54 AM
Schefter says they could be interested in bringing him back


NO
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: General_Failure on February 07, 2016, 12:11:44 PM
I know you think the Sanchize is still the guy, but they're not going to go with him regardless of how many slightly better quarterbacks they have.
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: MDS on February 07, 2016, 12:38:18 PM
howie's back in charge so he's back to playing the media

thats what im going to go with because on no planet can i stomach that talentless sloth coming back
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: AO1 on February 07, 2016, 12:40:00 PM
I'd rather go with an unknown like Chase Daniels or even a rookie...we already know what we have in Foles. I just can't see them bringing him back for any reason.
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: rjs246 on February 07, 2016, 01:08:39 PM
If the Rams cut him outright and the Eagles draft a rookie QB then of course they'll bring Foles back. Because they don't have an imaginative bone in their bodies and that formula is the safe/obvious play. If they trade to get Foles back then they're even bigger clowns than any of us thought.
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on February 07, 2016, 01:26:50 PM
I know you think the Sanchize is still the guy, but they're not going to go with him regardless of how many slightly better quarterbacks they have.

Sanchez would be better than Foles

Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: General_Failure on February 07, 2016, 01:32:10 PM
I know you think the Sanchize is still the guy, but they're not going to go with him regardless of how many slightly better quarterbacks they have.

Sanchez would be better than Foles



See, this is like visiting a terminally ill relative in the hospital. You just hate to see them like that.
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Eagles_Legendz on February 07, 2016, 02:29:23 PM
I know you think the Sanchize is still the guy, but they're not going to go with him regardless of how many slightly better quarterbacks they have.

Sanchez would be better than Foles

Let's dispel this notion that Barack Obama doesn't know what he's doing.  He knows exactly what he's doing.
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: QB Eagles on February 07, 2016, 02:34:13 PM
Sp Philly now has a third tanking team.
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Rome on February 07, 2016, 05:18:33 PM
Someone told me this today and I thought I was still drunk from yesterday and having a nasty case of the DT's.

He's 10 times better than Sanchez, though.  I mean come on...
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Rome on February 07, 2016, 05:34:22 PM
http://mobile.philly.com/beta?wss=/philly/blogs/sports/eagles&id=367969471

Whew.
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: MDS on February 07, 2016, 05:41:05 PM
I know you think the Sanchize is still the guy, but they're not going to go with him regardless of how many slightly better quarterbacks they have.

Sanchez would be better than Foles

Let's dispel this notion that Barack Obama doesn't know what he's doing.  He knows exactly what he's doing.

lol
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: ice grillin you on February 07, 2016, 05:49:39 PM
I know you think the Sanchize is still the guy, but they're not going to go with him regardless of how many slightly better quarterbacks they have.

Sanchez would be better than Foles

Let's dispel this notion that Barack Obama doesn't know what he's doing.  He knows exactly what he's doing.

bwahaha
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Munson on March 13, 2017, 08:49:22 AM
Folesy!
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: phattymatty on March 13, 2017, 08:59:21 AM
Excited to see what he can do in an Eagles uniform.
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: smeags on March 13, 2017, 08:59:55 AM
if for no other reason, this should be celebrated as the beginning of the end for chase daniel in this town.
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Rome on March 13, 2017, 09:22:08 AM
Oh so this is real then?

Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: ice grillin you on March 13, 2017, 09:22:45 AM
is it even possible to have a whiter qb combo than wentz and foles
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: smeags on March 13, 2017, 09:25:13 AM
Oh so this is real then?

yes it is, gigity gigity.
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Rome on March 13, 2017, 09:38:54 AM
is it even possible to have a whiter qb combo than wentz and foles

Joe Montana & Steve Young.
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: ice grillin you on March 13, 2017, 09:50:49 AM
steve young is ill

montana is super duper white...hes even named after the whitest place in the world
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Rome on March 13, 2017, 09:56:50 AM
Young is literally a direct descendent of Brigham Young who remains the undisputed whitest motherfarger ever. 

Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: ice grillin you on March 13, 2017, 10:00:23 AM
im a fat slovak but got more soul than a sock with a hole in it
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Rome on March 13, 2017, 11:12:36 AM
Hahaha.  Perfect.
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on March 13, 2017, 01:32:28 PM
Oh...yay.
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Rome on March 13, 2017, 02:12:12 PM
Look at Jay being all salty that Donnie didn't get the call. 
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: General_Failure on March 13, 2017, 02:26:34 PM
The McNabb wounds have healed, but he's still sore over the Sanchize never getting a real shot.
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Sgt PSN on March 13, 2017, 02:48:33 PM
Always liked Foles so I'm good with this. Provides quality depth at an affordable price.
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on March 13, 2017, 02:58:10 PM
AO1 & AO2
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: QB Eagles on March 13, 2017, 03:04:53 PM
If Wentz goes down injured, the Eagles will have an Audience of None.
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: smeags on March 13, 2017, 03:08:46 PM
If Wentz goes down injured, the Eagles will have an Audience of None.

so then, AONO ?
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: MDS on March 13, 2017, 03:13:48 PM
If Wentz goes down injured, the Eagles will have an Audience of None.

(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-dR8XiC_jSh8/Vc-FJTcuFwI/AAAAAAAATNY/WGwhcAoHU5I/s1600/Sylvester-Stallone.gif)
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Diomedes on March 13, 2017, 06:17:29 PM
Young is literally a direct descendent of Brigham Young who remains the undisputed whitest motherfarger ever.

genuine lol
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: smeags on December 11, 2017, 12:37:35 PM
I got this bitches !!

(https://media.giphy.com/media/JJGUejl0pLcRy/giphy.gif)
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: hbionic on December 11, 2017, 02:58:56 PM
By the way, is that Nick Foles's brother when the camera pans to Wents and Foles going over the previous drive photos on the bench?
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: NC_Eagle on December 11, 2017, 08:25:02 PM
Hey, Trent Dilfer has a Super Bowl ring. Anything's possible.  :paranoid
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: ice grillin you on December 12, 2017, 05:32:19 AM
Hey, Trent Dilfer has a Super Bowl ring. Anything's possible.  :paranoid

the eagles Ray Lewis and Jonathan Ogden are also out for the year
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Diomedes on December 12, 2017, 11:10:02 AM
I wish you were out for the year too with this piss on everyone and shtein on everything attitude. 
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: ice grillin you on December 12, 2017, 11:20:03 AM
welcome to philadelphia sports

the eagles dont get to take other cities teams and win two superbowls in 15 minutes....that only happens to cities who didnt even have a farging franchise until a minute ago

in this world you dont win anything for 60 years and you have franchise qb's go out for the year barely a quarter into a possible superbowl season and MVP qb's go down a spit and a throw away from the playoffs in which you were going to be the number one seed.....oh also there was this time the best WR in the league got hurt right before the playoffs

so take your double rainbows and teacup pigs and shove them up your ass

Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: smeags on December 12, 2017, 11:22:59 AM
(https://i.imgflip.com/2sh81.jpg)


awww, seems like someone needs a hug.


Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: ice grillin you on December 12, 2017, 11:25:40 AM
damn right i do....if you dont after this then you dont have a friggin soul and i dont have time for people like that....this one will ring out horror for years to come
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: smeags on December 12, 2017, 11:35:47 AM
 :-D
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: General_Failure on December 12, 2017, 11:40:26 AM
The only way this could have gone better for IGY is if they had lost to Washington when Wentz got hurt.
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Zanshin on December 12, 2017, 12:27:46 PM
The only way this could have gone better for IGY is if they had lost to Washington when Wentz got hurt.

Truth. Almost makes you long for the days when he was trying to convince everyone that Wentz wasn't that great.
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: General_Failure on December 12, 2017, 12:29:12 PM
Now Wentz will never get on Cousins' level.
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Tomahawk on December 12, 2017, 12:30:50 PM
Now Wentz will never get on Cousins' level.

He will if Russel Wilson lets him
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on December 12, 2017, 12:33:33 PM
welcome to philadelphia sports

the eagles dont get to take other cities teams and win two superbowls in 15 minutes....that only happens to cities who didnt even have a farging franchise until a minute ago

in this world you dont win anything for 60 years and you have franchise qb's go out for the year barely a quarter into a possible superbowl season and MVP qb's go down a spit and a throw away from the playoffs in which you were going to be the number one seed.....oh also there was this time the best WR in the league got hurt right before the playoffs

so take your double rainbows and teacup pigs and shove them up your ass

what is a teacup pig?
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: ice grillin you on December 12, 2017, 12:40:48 PM
welcome to philadelphia sports

the eagles dont get to take other cities teams and win two superbowls in 15 minutes....that only happens to cities who didnt even have a farging franchise until a minute ago

in this world you dont win anything for 60 years and you have franchise qb's go out for the year barely a quarter into a possible superbowl season and MVP qb's go down a spit and a throw away from the playoffs in which you were going to be the number one seed.....oh also there was this time the best WR in the league got hurt right before the playoffs

so take your double rainbows and teacup pigs and shove them up your ass

what is a teacup pig?

the new puppies
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on December 12, 2017, 02:54:07 PM
Like a real animal?!
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: ice grillin you on December 12, 2017, 03:15:49 PM
yes
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: smeags on December 12, 2017, 03:17:11 PM
they are very small J, meaning tastier, more tender bacon.
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: smeags on January 22, 2018, 12:37:42 PM
damn right i do....if you dont after this then you dont have a friggin soul and i dont have time for people like that....this one will ring out horror for years to come

omg the horror.

how can anyone take this ?
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: QB Eagles on February 05, 2018, 12:19:02 AM
making a mental note to re-read the 40 pages of discussion about the first super bowl winning qb in eagle history
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: General_Failure on February 05, 2018, 12:20:30 AM
Not a huge fan of this pick but Andy seems to know what he is doing with QBs.

The great thing is nobody else seems to know what to do with his QBs, making those inevitable 2nd round picks just a little higher.

As true today as it ever was.
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Zanshin on February 05, 2018, 12:26:46 AM
I looked through the thread, and I'm happy to say I was encouraging and not an icehole. At least in this instance.
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: General_Failure on February 05, 2018, 12:28:26 AM
I know you think the Sanchize is still the guy, but they're not going to go with him regardless of how many slightly better quarterbacks they have.

Sanchez would be better than Foles


Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Don Ho on February 05, 2018, 01:43:29 AM
Look Test: Baked

I laughed back then and I laughed again tonight.
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Munson on February 05, 2018, 01:52:14 AM
Folesy!

Apparently I was the first one to post in here when they reacquired him. So I'll take all the credit.
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: MDS on February 05, 2018, 03:04:08 AM
on no planet can i stomach that talentless sloth coming back

stop talking forever
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: MDS on February 05, 2018, 03:04:25 AM
I'd rather go with an unknown like Chase Daniels or even a rookie...we already know what we have in Foles. I just can't see them bringing him back for any reason.

bahaha
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: MDS on February 05, 2018, 03:04:48 AM
Sanchez would be better than Foles

j always comes through
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: MDS on February 05, 2018, 03:06:24 AM
this one will ring out horror for years to come

the horror, the horror!
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: MDS on February 05, 2018, 03:07:06 AM
If Wentz goes down injured, the Eagles will have an Audience of None.


this is a massive L for a number of different reasons
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: hunt on February 05, 2018, 08:51:18 AM
even when the eagles win a goddamn super bowl, you have to be a troll by digging up old quotes.  that's some next level iceholery.
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Diomedes on February 05, 2018, 09:03:46 AM
For the record, I prefer "Saint Nick" over the other nicknames people are using. 
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Eagaholic on February 05, 2018, 09:13:58 AM
even when the eagles win a goddamn super bowl, you have to be a troll by digging up old quotes.  that's some next level iceholery.
And you were expecting ...?
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Eagles_Legendz on February 05, 2018, 09:22:06 AM
legend
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: MDS on February 05, 2018, 11:17:55 AM
even when the eagles win a goddamn super bowl, you have to be a troll by digging up old quotes.  that's some next level iceholery.

i dig up my own quote too you beautiful hillbilly
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: hunt on February 05, 2018, 12:12:42 PM
even when the eagles win a goddamn super bowl, you have to be a troll by digging up old quotes.  that's some next level iceholery.

i dig up my own quote too you beautiful hillbilly

oh, in that case.......
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: AO1 on February 05, 2018, 01:41:54 PM
Start erecting a statue of Foles outside the Linc. Unbelievable performance. Well deserved MVP.

After the dust settles, the right thing to do would be to ask Foles if he’d like to stay their back up or be a starter for another team. I’m sure he wants to be a starter, he should be able to sign a massive contract that will allow him to be financially secure for the rest of his life. There are only 8 qbs in the league including Foles who have won a SB. None of them have gone blow for blow with Brady. Eli was clutch but his D kept Brady in check. Start the bidding at a 1st round pick.
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Diomedes on February 05, 2018, 01:56:31 PM
Foles is already financially set for life.   I wouldn't be at all surprised if he would rather stay in Philly as Wentz's backup.
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: QB Eagles on February 05, 2018, 02:01:05 PM
After the dust settles, the right thing to do would be to ask Foles if he’d like to stay their back up or be a starter for another team.

Bingo.
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: General_Failure on February 05, 2018, 02:08:59 PM
If he wants, he could just say he's done and walk out on top. What's a couple more million going to get him that he can't already get?
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: AO1 on February 05, 2018, 02:23:23 PM
Foles is already financially set for life.   I wouldn't be at all surprised if he would rather stay in Philly as Wentz's backup.

By our standards? Yes. His current deal is really only worth $11 million over 2 years...the 5 year deal voids if he’s on the roster in 2019. By NFL standards he’s about 5 years from being broke. They’re talking about Cousins - who’s also 29 and hasn’t won dick - getting $35 million per year...Alex no arm Smith just got $74 farging million guaranteed and he’s 35 and has never won dick. Imagine what a qb coming into his prime who just won a sb is worth? I’d be more than happy to keep him, but there’s zero chance of that because the Eagles need picks and Foles deserves to get paid. Win/win for everyone. Eagles got a 1st and 4th for Sammy sleeves.

Imagine going from this:
http://ftw.usatoday.com/2016/08/hard-knocks-jeff-fisher-cuts-nick-foles-rams

To this
https://youtu.be/qY4BtIQUbfI

In 18 months

Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Diomedes on February 05, 2018, 02:38:54 PM
By our standards? Yes. ...

He comes from an incredibly rich family, and is a bona-fide multi-millionaire in his own right.  Moreover, I think he genuinely cares more for Christ than for money.   If he quit football now to open a church, that would suprise me less than him following the money to a starting gig somewhere.
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Eagaholic on February 06, 2018, 01:33:48 AM
Not sure anyone knows if Wentz will miss time going into next season and you certainly don't want to take any chances pushing his return. Also not sure they win the SB this year without home field throughout, every game counts. It would be a tough call trading Foles by the draft unless they got an offer that blew them away. I probably wouldn't unless they were really confident in the medicals. Plus, Howie has shown a penchant for getting unexpectedly good return late in the trading season.
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: General_Failure on February 06, 2018, 01:42:45 AM
Trade Foles, get Kaep.
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on February 06, 2018, 09:34:55 AM
People see me with my Eagles stuff on and all they want to ask about is what they’re going to do with Foles. I’ve probably had 40 people ask me and the latest was a 70 year old Chinese couple.
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Geowhizzer on February 06, 2018, 10:52:19 AM
People see me with my Eagles stuff on and all they want to ask about is what they’re going to do with Foles. I’ve probably had 40 people ask me and the latest was a 70 year old Chinese couple.

I've been asked by many who the starter would be next year.  Like (barring injury) there's any doubt.
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: QB Eagles on February 06, 2018, 10:58:37 AM
A lot of it is other fanbases wanting to get Wentz. Like the Eagles are farging stupid.
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Don Ho on February 06, 2018, 01:44:31 PM
People see me with my Eagles stuff on and all they want to ask about is what they’re going to do with Foles. I’ve probably had 40 people ask me and the latest was a 70 year old Chinese couple.

We need a statement/press release from the board we can all use.  Got the same question everywhere I went yesterday.
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Zanshin on February 07, 2018, 03:35:04 PM
So, yeah, Fisher...he landed on his feet.

https://www.facebook.com/james.wilder.1088/videos/164184247697322/
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Sgt PSN on February 07, 2018, 03:44:21 PM
Haha...I just watched that and was coming to post it.

Remember when people wanted Fisher for the Eagles?  Not recently but maybe like 10 years ago.
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Zanshin on February 07, 2018, 03:46:14 PM
Totally. In their defense, it looked like a way better idea a decade ago.
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Sgt PSN on February 07, 2018, 03:48:39 PM
Yeah, I'm pretty sure I was on board with Fisher back towards the end of the Reid era.  I didn't even think he was all that, but he wasn't Andy which was good enough for me at the time.
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Eagles_Legendz on February 07, 2018, 04:48:16 PM
After watching the nfl films cut of the game, he will always be a sports hero of mine.  He had the best stretch of performances by a philly athlete on the biggest stage in my lifetime.  No false bravado, no fake swagger - he just went out there and dominated and was cool as could be the whole time.  Not to use it to take another shot at 5 but watching the mic’d up and how he’s conducted himself the last three weeks and he really was the anti-McNabb.

Even with all the Jesus stuff, I hope this dude gets a statue in philly for it.
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Zanshin on February 07, 2018, 05:57:03 PM
I was thinking that. It's ALMOST worth waiting for him to do it. McNabb, in addition to not being able to show up in big spots, would have been a goddamn nightmare. He's insufferable now... Can you imagine if he actually won anything important? Only thing to offset that is the reality of how awesome it would have been for Dawkins.
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Rome on February 07, 2018, 06:48:39 PM
People see me with my Eagles stuff on and all they want to ask about is what they’re going to do with Foles. I’ve probably had 40 people ask me and the latest was a 70 year old Chinese couple.

Ancient Chinese Secret?
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Sgt PSN on February 07, 2018, 07:02:27 PM
Wha Eagers do wit Nick Fores an Calson Rentz?  They tlade one for dlaft pick? 
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Don Ho on February 07, 2018, 08:14:50 PM
^^ :-D :-D :-D^^^
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Don Ho on February 07, 2018, 08:23:27 PM
People see me with my Eagles stuff on and all they want to ask about is what they’re going to do with Foles. I’ve probably had 40 people ask me and the latest was a 70 year old Chinese couple.

Ancient Chinese Secret?

Unfortunately Rome there's only about 4 of us on this board who remember that commercial.
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Geowhizzer on February 07, 2018, 08:31:38 PM
People see me with my Eagles stuff on and all they want to ask about is what they’re going to do with Foles. I’ve probably had 40 people ask me and the latest was a 70 year old Chinese couple.

Ancient Chinese Secret?

Unfortunately Rome there's only about 4 of us on this board who remember that commercial.

Since I am one of the four, does that mean I am eligible for Social Security?
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: General_Failure on February 07, 2018, 08:33:37 PM
I was thinking that. It's ALMOST worth waiting for him to do it. McNabb, in addition to not being able to show up in big spots, would have been a goddamn nightmare. He's insufferable now... Can you imagine if he actually won anything important? Only thing to offset that is the reality of how awesome it would have been for Dawkins.

Just imagine IGY louisville sluggering his way through the work day.
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: AO1 on February 10, 2018, 08:47:53 PM
https://www.nbcphiladelphia.com/news/local/Google-New-England-Patriots-Owner-Nick-Foles-Philadelphia-Eagles-Super-Bowl-MVP-473698973.html
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Rome on May 22, 2018, 08:06:54 PM
The Browns offered the #35 for Foles, the Birds said, yo Nick... you game?

Foles LOL’d and he’s still an Eagle. 

In a million years who would have believed that would have been possible before last season?
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: General_Failure on May 22, 2018, 08:23:58 PM
I don't blame him for not wanting to go to that graveyard. Being coached by Jeff Fisher is enough misery for anyone.
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Tomahawk on May 22, 2018, 11:04:25 PM
(https://www.nbcsports.com/philadelphia/sites/csnphilly/files/styles/article_hero_image/public/2018/02/10/nick-foles-patriots-eagles.jpg)
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: QB Eagles on July 19, 2018, 08:33:55 PM
https://www.nflpa.com/players/fy19-q1-top50-player-sales-list

Nick Foles is the top merch pusher in the NFL in 2Q. One of those facts that seems utterly absurd if you go back and tell someone from a year ago.
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: General_Failure on July 19, 2018, 09:02:54 PM
Ertz at 13 is the weirdest thing by far.
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: AO1 on December 30, 2018, 11:07:40 PM
https://www.gofundme.com/6n77haw?member=1405688
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: MDS on December 30, 2018, 11:29:25 PM
sports fans are the worst human beings in the world
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: AO1 on December 31, 2018, 12:40:14 AM
sports fans are the worst human beings in the world

Worse than Trumpers? Don’t think so
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Don Ho on December 31, 2018, 04:58:00 AM
Must kill self. 
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: smeags on December 31, 2018, 08:01:15 AM
https://www.gofundme.com/6n77haw?member=1405688

man that thing really took off.
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: QB Eagles on December 31, 2018, 04:52:40 PM
Records held by Nick Foles:

NFL:
Most touchdowns in a single game (tied)
Most consecutive completions in a single game (tied)
Highest passer rating in playoff history
Highest completion percentage in playoff history
Highest completion percentage in single playoff

Franchise:
Completions in a single game
Passing yards in a single game
Highest completion percentage in single game
Highest passer rating in a season
Highest passer rating in a career
Lowest interception ratio in a season
Lowest interception ratio in a career

Probably a bunch more I am missing, too.
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Rome on December 31, 2018, 05:07:38 PM
Nick With The Biggest Dick - Career
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Geowhizzer on January 06, 2019, 09:54:59 PM
https://twitter.com/NFL_Memes/status/1082102344068796417
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: General_Failure on January 07, 2019, 09:01:13 PM
https://twitter.com/ESPNStatsInfo/status/1082297313303785472
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Diomedes on January 13, 2019, 05:29:33 PM
What happened to the game thread?
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: General_Failure on January 13, 2019, 07:50:19 PM
I accidentally trashed the game thread trying to post on my phone. Whoops.
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: QB Eagles on January 13, 2019, 08:11:40 PM
I accidentally trashed the game thread trying to post on my phone. Whoops.

You accidentally deleted the Eagles offense too.
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: MDS on January 13, 2019, 10:34:16 PM
im not talking talent im talking everything...is nick foles the 2nd best eagle qb ever behind randall

mcnabb is a loser who i refuse to acknowledge...wentz isnt there yet....jaws stinks...dont @ me
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: General_Failure on January 14, 2019, 08:58:27 AM
The most successful one, at least.
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: AO1 on January 14, 2019, 09:46:57 AM
im not talking talent im talking everything...is nick foles the 2nd best eagle qb ever behind randall

mcnabb is a loser who i refuse to acknowledge...wentz isnt there yet....jaws stinks...dont @ me

I’d probably throw Van Brocklin in the mix but if we’re talking post 80’s I’d rank em Foles, McNabb, Randall. Foles for the simple fact that he won a Super Bowl. RC and Mcwhiner have more natural athletic ability and much better arms but in big moments they always came up short.
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: MDS on January 14, 2019, 10:13:13 AM
"all time eagles" isnt just talent....its everything that goes into it

thats why 5 isnt even the radar. yeah the stats are there and some wins are, too, but he is just the worst person ever and a black hole of a personality that id rather watch kevin kolb play for them than him
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Geowhizzer on January 14, 2019, 11:19:49 AM
"all time eagles" isnt just talent....its everything that goes into it

thats why 5 isnt even the radar. yeah the stats are there and some wins are, too, but he is just the worst person ever and a black hole of a personality that id rather watch kevin kolb play for them than him

But #5 will always love you!
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: smeags on January 14, 2019, 11:21:33 AM
"all time eagles" isnt just talent....its everything that goes into it

thats why 5 isnt even the radar. yeah the stats are there and some wins are, too, but he is just the worst person ever and a black hole of a personality that id rather watch kevin kolb play for them than him

But #5 will always love you!

im convinced 5 was thinking of the bottle of henney he had waiting in his car when he said that.
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: AO1 on January 14, 2019, 11:31:37 AM
He gets quite a few colds and uses cough medicine, here’s video proof

https://youtu.be/DNnmjnbHHnU
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: NC_Eagle on January 14, 2019, 07:02:56 PM
Huh, I'd forgotten we had Rodney Peete at QB for a while.

IRT Randall, I think he did okay considering he was like 75% of the team's offense (air/ground) most years he was here.
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Zanshin on January 18, 2019, 10:39:05 PM
"all time eagles" isnt just talent....its everything that goes into it

thats why 5 isnt even the radar. yeah the stats are there and some wins are, too, but he is just the worst person ever and a black hole of a personality that id rather watch kevin kolb play for them than him

I agree with you...but I can't possibly be the only one to remember that the M in MDS stand for McNabb, right? Wasn't it McNabb Dawkins Superbowl, or something similar even before the collar popping? Granted you were likely a child, still...funny stuff. McNabb's act did get old quick...and can you imagine how insufferable he'd have been if he was the QB of a super bowl winning team? He'd be a nightmare. But he's a perfect example of someone coming up small way too often when it counted. Cunningham had a ton of talent, and I really think he could have gotten it done with better offensive talent and coaching. That tenure still feels more empty than it should have been. He was great to watch, but they could have done so much more if he didn't have to do so much. I liked Foles when he was the starter early on, and I knew they had a chance when he stepped in. The guy just gets shtein done-- but he also requires a coach willing to put him in a position to succeed (as opposed to Jeff Fisher, for example). I still think Wentz can be a really good QB-- but if he's going to put that together over the long haul, I hope he learned a little from Foles by watching on the Sidelines. There's a reason Foles is less mobile and takes a fraction of the sacks. Has to learn from that. They have to find a way to get something of value for Foles, right?
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: ice grillin you on January 18, 2019, 11:46:51 PM
nick foles is garbage can we all agree?
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: MDS on January 19, 2019, 12:01:00 AM
garbage is a strong word for nick foles....if hes garbage than what is andy dalton or josh rosen

foles is a pretty average qb with some high variances. can elevate his game to outduel tom brady in the super bowl and can also miss open receivers left and right 1 year later. hes got a huge dong though.
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: General_Failure on January 19, 2019, 01:37:57 AM
Worst SB MVP ever?
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Geowhizzer on January 19, 2019, 10:22:42 AM
Lurie apparently ponied up the bonus that Foles lost by missing the last series against the taterskins. (https://www.nbcsports.com/philadelphia/eagles/eagles-reportedly-do-right-nick-foles-give-him-1-million-bonus?fbclid=IwAR3YgZFM1AzqyiYUlOEBdQbu65i_GE3khPAiV8QieHFfmGxxsn-b8qsOXE4)
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Geowhizzer on February 05, 2019, 10:26:08 PM
Option officially exercised by the Eagles.

Buyout officially exercised by Foles.
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Tomahawk on February 05, 2019, 10:31:45 PM
What a fleshpop; farg Foles.

Obviously whiney Wentz made him leave
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Geowhizzer on February 05, 2019, 10:33:20 PM
What a fleshpop; farg Foles.

Obviously whiney Wentz made him leave

Foles got tired of being given swirlies.
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: EJ72 on February 27, 2019, 02:53:12 PM
Maybe not an Eagle for long.

Around the NFL 

Quote
Eagles won't tag Nick Foles; QB to enter free agency

Nick Foles is free.

Philadelphia Eagles executive vice president of football operations Howie Roseman told reporters Wednesday that the team will not place the franchise tag on Foles. The Super Bowl LII MVP is a free agent.

"We've spent a lot of time discussing this internally and with him," Roseman said, "and we've decided to let Nick [Foles] become a free agent."

Would probably be hard to have two high priced QBs on the team so you guys are rolling with Wentz.

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000001019102/article/eagles-wont-tag-nick-foles-qb-to-enter-free-agency
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Don Ho on February 27, 2019, 04:53:06 PM
Quote
But the biggest question remains: how will the Jaguars afford Foles? The short answer is that they’ll have to figure out a way. I asked Caldwell about the health of the team’s salary cap space and he said “going into free agency I feel we have a lot of maneuverability.” But the Jags couldn’t take on such a salary with their 2019 cap situation as it stands now.
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: ice grillin you on February 28, 2019, 07:54:04 AM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D0dkfT1WoAAuOci.jpg)
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: phattymatty on February 28, 2019, 09:48:43 AM
He'll be back.
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Geowhizzer on March 03, 2019, 10:39:06 PM
https://twitter.com/Eagles/status/1100887945752399874
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: MDS on March 04, 2019, 12:25:38 PM
seems like jacksonville is a done deal

jags are @ the linc...in 4 years

odds nick is on the team then....100:1
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: ice grillin you on March 04, 2019, 12:26:53 PM
https://twitter.com/Eagles/status/1100887945752399874

how do you make that video and not include his nfl record 25 straight completions
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: General_Failure on March 04, 2019, 12:38:13 PM
They mentioned it, but showing 25 straight completions probably got cut to make room for more touchdowns.
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: ice grillin you on March 04, 2019, 12:57:52 PM
i guess i didnt watch far enough...i was bored by the time the superbowl highlites started
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: phattymatty on March 05, 2019, 01:03:42 PM
https://twitter.com/LaneJohnson65/status/1102990877436399616
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Eagaholic on March 05, 2019, 10:07:58 PM
Lol. Keep it in case Eagles play Pats next year for a SB rubber match. They could present it to Busted Dick Bob.
Title: Re: Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Rome on March 13, 2019, 09:30:57 PM
https://www.theplayerstribune.com/en-us/articles/nick-foles-thank-you-philly

He even thanked Chippah.   BDN indeed.