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Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: Sgt PSN on May 24, 2011, 10:44:36 PM
If the bullet hit someone else, then you obviously throw the book at him.  The gun was registered and he had paperwork (but if I remember correctly it was from another state.....Florida maybe).   

the gun was registered to own but it wasnt registered to carry....in fact nyc gun laws are some of the toughest in the nation and it virtually impossible to get a ccw permit...and the sentence for ccw is mandatory (i believe 36 months?)...they actually pleaded down plaxes number


Could have sworn he had papers to carry too (albeit out of state).  Didn't this happen shortly after a new gun law was passed in NY/NYC?  For some reason, I keep thinking it was a relatively new law or new guidelines for punishment. 

Anyway, the point is that NYC's punishment is a bit extreme imo.  I'm all for hard criminals doing hard time, but I think Plax's case was over the top and the punishment didn't fit the crime. 
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: Diomedes on May 25, 2011, 06:20:24 AM
Sentences for gun crimes are weak.  They should all be greater.  Someone illegally carrying a gun into a night club is a far greater threat to the public good than reflected by a two year sentence.  It ought to be ten years.  And another ten for discharging it (even accidentally).

Firing a gun at someone should be 30 years, actually shooting someone another 20.  

When you are packing illegally, not to mention actually threatening or shooting, you have crossed a bright bright line from social to anti-social and you need to be removed from our midst.

I cannot for the life of me understand why we take it so easy on gun criminals.  
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: ice grillin you on May 25, 2011, 07:20:44 AM
totally agree...there are a lot of instances of over reaching punishment for crimes in this country...drugs being the obvious one...however guns does not fall into this category...they need tougher laws and tougher sentences
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: Rome on May 25, 2011, 08:23:26 AM
The constitutionally protected and guaranteed right to gun ownership is one of our most sacred freedoms in this country, and it's shocking and more than a little disappointing to see the two of you, who routinely decry our loss of civil liberties otherwise, so blithely advocating for one of those rights to be taken from us.

Are you two seriously suggesting we should allow ourselves to be at the mercy of the State & criminals who both have easy access to weapons?

Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: ice grillin you on May 25, 2011, 08:35:16 AM
keep a pistol in your house if you want....make some exception for sport guns and the rest are illegal and should be punished hard...guns should not be allowed on any public property or allowed to be carried

i dont give a rats ass about it being in the constitution...everything in that document is always on the table for ammending
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: Sgt PSN on May 25, 2011, 08:38:58 AM
Carrying a gun, legally or otherwise should not come with a prison sentence. At least not for a first offense. If the gun is fired publicly then I think that intent should be a factor. In a case like Burress, he clearly did not intend to fire it and he didn't injure anyone other than himself. It was an accident that was the result of a stupid decision on his part. So instead of locking him up for 2 years, you fine the living crap out of him. Give him 300 hours of community service. Require him to take a weapons safety class at his own expense and suspend his ability to carry a weapon for X amount of time.  After he completes all court ordered requirements he can then apply to carry again. If he has a 2nd offense then you can lock him up for a few years.
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on May 25, 2011, 10:00:17 AM
The constitutionally protected and guaranteed right to gun ownership is one of our most sacred freedoms in this country, and it's shocking and more than a little disappointing to see the two of you, who routinely decry our loss of civil liberties otherwise, so blithely advocating for one of those rights to be taken from us.

Are you two seriously suggesting we should allow ourselves to be at the mercy of the State & criminals who both have easy access to weapons?

Part of the reasons the criminals have easy access is because of the relaxed gun laws, mostly due to the great and powerful NRA. There is no reason for MAC-10's and other assorted automatic and semi-automatic weapons to be available under the guise of the constitutional right to own a gun.

I wholeheartedly agree that we should be allowed to own and carry weapons. However there needs to be a limit on what is allowable and purchasable. There is no reason that armor-piercing bullets should be available. There is no reason that when people rob a bank and cover themselves in armor that police need to commandeer weapons and ammunition to defeat them because they're outgunned by a criminal (see the LA bank robbery about 15 years ago).

Own a gun; carry a gun concealed in your car. But place strict limits on what can be purchased and toughen up the sentences of those who piss on the rules that farg it up for everyone else.
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: rjs246 on May 25, 2011, 10:20:03 AM
How about this (which I think was Dio's point)? Enforce the existing gun laws stringently.

They just aren't enforced properly and if they were we would be far better off.

Eagles Football!
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: phattymatty on May 25, 2011, 10:33:52 AM
Carrying a gun, legally or otherwise should not come with a prison sentence. At least not for a first offense. If the gun is fired publicly then I think that intent should be a factor.

can't believe anyone is saying that it's not a huge deal for a gun to go off in a crowded club. intentional or not.

his biggest problem is wearing sweatpants to the club. get some nice jeans and that shtein stays inside your belt son.

Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: PoopyfaceMcGee on May 25, 2011, 11:47:22 AM
What does any of this have to do with LeCharles Bentley?
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: Tomahawk on May 25, 2011, 12:00:42 PM
Carrying a gun, legally or otherwise should not come with a prison sentence. At least not for a first offense. If the gun is fired publicly then I think that intent should be a factor. In a case like Burress, he clearly did not intend to fire it and he didn't injure anyone other than himself. It was an accident that was the result of a stupid decision on his part. So instead of locking him up for 2 years, you fine the living crap out of him. Give him 300 hours of community service. Require him to take a weapons safety class at his own expense and suspend his ability to carry a weapon for X amount of time.  After he completes all court ordered requirements he can then apply to carry again. If he has a 2nd offense then you can lock him up for a few years.

I completely agree that legally carrying a gun should not come with a prison sentence.

I have no problem with more severe punishments for people publicly carrying weapons illegally.
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: ice grillin you on May 25, 2011, 12:47:51 PM
why should you ever legally be able to carry a gun in public?

i just dont understand this
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: Geowhizzer on May 25, 2011, 01:33:13 PM
A lot of people use the 2nd Amendment to justify for owning and carrying guns of all types.

Here is the actual text of the 2nd Amendment:

Quote from: The Bill of Rights
A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.

Historically, there had been no standing army in the United States, and people were called to enlist and fight as the need arose.  Partially to protect the rights of the states, which still thought of themselves as individual little nations at the time of the Constitutional Convention and were loathe to give up their own rights for the good of the collective nation.

I just wonder how the Founding Fathers would agree or disagree with the modern interpretations of this Amendment.
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: Rome on May 25, 2011, 01:33:39 PM
Hopefully some day you'll find out.
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: Diomedes on May 25, 2011, 01:43:38 PM
My position is clear and easy to state, and has nothing to do with taking guns away from law abiding citizens:

Illegal gun usage--menacing someone with one, carrying one, smuggling them, shooting at someone, injuring or killing someone with one, etc.---should all warrant the most severe sentences possible.  Getting three years all suspended pending completion of probation on an illegal carry conviction is ludicrous.  Jail for ten years is more appropriate.  You point a gun at someone...five years with all but 9 months suspended is awful.  It ought to be 20 years no parole. 

What the hell are prisons for if not to take people like this out of our way? 

I value the freedom to own guns in this country..legally.  Cross that line though and I'm hard pressed to think of crimes that deserve more harsh consequences.
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: Rome on May 25, 2011, 04:55:36 PM
The point is not all gun laws are equal.

Some border on an unequivocal violation of the second amendment and the enforcement of bogus laws is always wrong.
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: Diomedes on May 25, 2011, 05:23:55 PM
You're being a pain in the ass.  You know damn well that I'm talking about basic gun laws.  Laws that say don't point guns at people, don't carry them into nightclubs, don't sell them to felons, don't shoot at people...etc.  The sentences convicts regularly receive for these offenses are as weak as your point.

I don't want to keep you from owning a gun, but if you point it at someone who cuts you off in traffic, you should go to jail for a long time.  If you can't agree with that concept, then we don't have much to say to each other on the subject.
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: Rome on May 25, 2011, 05:51:55 PM
The fact that I own a gun should give you a small measure of comfort.  Considering my flashpoint temper, borderline depression, and penchant for alcohol abuse, on any given weekend I'm this close from taking myself out.
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: ice grillin you on May 25, 2011, 06:58:43 PM
im not saying they arent but what are the gun laws that are unconstitutional?...i dont really care that much or keep up on this topic as its a waste of time since it will never change

and how do you "border" on unequivocal
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: Rome on May 25, 2011, 07:32:19 PM
Simple.  States rights trump federal law in these cases.   That's why you have varying possession and ownership restrictions from state to state yet gun ownership has not been completely outlawed in any of them.

If a state ever tried to outlaw them completely they'd get laughed out of court.
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: ice grillin you on May 25, 2011, 07:56:17 PM
oh i thought you were saying there were anti gun laws on the books now that were unconstitutional
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on May 25, 2011, 08:44:41 PM
Should you be allowed to buy an automatic rifle and armor piercing rounds?
Title: Re: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: Diomedes on May 25, 2011, 08:47:56 PM
My opinion is no. 

But I don't feel half as strongly about that kind of question as I do about sentencing and actual time served for gun criminals.
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: MMH on May 25, 2011, 08:57:37 PM
How about cannons?

I mean, they're only used for hunting... (http://www.buckstix.com/howitzer.htm)
Title: Re: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: Sgt PSN on May 25, 2011, 09:09:21 PM
Carrying a gun, legally or otherwise should not come with a prison sentence. At least not for a first offense. If the gun is fired publicly then I think that intent should be a factor.

can't believe anyone is saying that it's not a huge deal for a gun to go off in a crowded club. intentional or not.

That's not what I'm suggesting at all.  It's a very big deal but I don't think it's worth prison time. 

Quote
his biggest problem is wearing sweatpants to the club. get some nice jeans and that shtein stays inside your belt son.

Yes. 

keep a pistol in your house if you want....make some exception for sport guns and the rest are illegal and should be punished hard...guns should not be allowed on any public property or allowed to be carried

i dont give a rats ass about it being in the constitution...everything in that document is always on the table for ammending

And if it gets amended, fine.  I have no problem with that.  But as it is written right now, it is open for extremely liberal interpretation and there are many who interpret it far more liberally than I do. 

Besides, my problem isn't with the law in NYC, it's the punishment in a case like this one.  When lawmakers came up with these punishments and got them passed into actual laws, they weren't thinking about a case like Burress.   
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: ice grillin you on May 25, 2011, 09:11:49 PM
well i dont think you should be able to bring a gun outside your residence or business so you can imagine how i feel about bringing it in a club or bar
Title: Re: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: Sgt PSN on May 25, 2011, 09:24:36 PM
In today's day and age, I actually agree.  There's no point in it since we have very well organized police departments and a much more sophisticated infrastructure.  This isn't the wild wild west.  Cops are plentiful and available at a moment's notice (unless you live in a bad neighborhood) and almost every business establishment that gets a lot of outside foot traffic has in house security.  So the need for personal protection is no where near as great as it was 200 years ago.  However, the law says it's ok and until the law changes I won't be very adamant against them.  I don't find it necessary to carry a piece but I'm not against it enough to make a stand against it.  It is what it is. 

But getting back to my original point, I think Burress would be a slightly smarter person today had he been forced to attend some intense weapons safety classes, perform an insane amount of community service and pay a hefty fine.  Not only that, but NYC wins too because they get to add his fine $$ to their budget, get free labor for a few hundred hours and don't have to spend tax $$ to house an inmate for a couple of years. 

I really think that in a case like Burress, it should have been taken into consideration that he had no prior gun convictions (or any convictions that I can remember....??) and that his negligence and stupidity didn't result in any casualties other than himself.  Not to mention that he didn't pull it out, didn't point it at anyone, wasn't even involved in a confrontation.  It just fell out of his waistband so it's not like there's any argument that could say he had intent to use it against someone. 
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: ice grillin you on May 25, 2011, 09:28:49 PM
he wasnt allowed to ccw in nyc...thats why he got what he got...complain about the heavy handedness of the sentencing guidelines of illegal ccw or complain about how difficult it is to get a cw permit in the city but thats what got him the time...not the fact that it accidentily went off...altho he did get reckless endangerment for that
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: Rome on May 25, 2011, 09:38:04 PM
well i dont think you should be able to bring a gun outside your residence or business

is the brick road that leads to your castle yellow by any chance?

jesus...


Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: ice grillin you on May 25, 2011, 09:42:20 PM
well i dont think you should be able to bring a gun outside your residence or business

is the brick road that leads to your castle yellow by any chance?

jesus...

im surprised you are still here to post after all the showdowns behind the applebees corral you have survived

you must be quick on that trigger son!!
Title: Re: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: Diomedes on May 25, 2011, 09:44:23 PM
farging sidewalks in baltimore are blood red
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: Rome on May 25, 2011, 09:59:34 PM
edit - this gif site sucks.
Title: Re: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: Eagaholic on May 25, 2011, 10:44:47 PM
farging sidewalks in baltimore are blood red

That sounds a little over-dramatic. Maybe they should make some kind of show about it.
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: PhillyPhanInDC on May 26, 2011, 07:04:55 AM
If am a law abiding citizen that goes through the training and evaluation necessary to carry a firearm, and there should be no impediment to that. Law enforcement officers typically will refer to such individuals as "sheepdogs", and most will tell you they play at least a small part in the protection of the people in their presence.

I won't get into specifics, but there have been two instances in my life where while carrying, I had to draw my firearm (fortunately in both cases, I didn't have to discharge it). In the first, the police report showed that I was entirely within my rights of self defense and my actions led to the prevention of serious harm to my person. The other defused a potentially deadly situation outside of a gas station, and a jury felt that again, I was entirely within my rights and broke no laws in exercising my right to bear a firearm.

Think of what would have happened in a situation like the mass shooting in Arizona or in Buffalo if a person somewhere in the crowd was legally carrying a firearm, and had received the proper training on how and when to use it. The chances are high that the person might have saved lives.
Title: Re: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: Diomedes on May 26, 2011, 07:04:37 PM
If am a law abiding citizen that goes through the training and evaluation necessary to carry a firearm, and there should be no impediment to that.

I don't have a problem with this statement assuming "law abiding" also means you have all the permits and licenses required by law. 

If you don't, and you carry anyway, you're a danger to the community and when convicted, you should be locked up for a long time.

It's real simple.  Legal gun owners/users have nothing to fear...gun criminals go away for very very long sentences.



Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: Rome on May 26, 2011, 07:53:13 PM
Gun laws are farging fascist bullshtein.   The government is farging evil and those in power would love nothing more than a docile & compliant populace who are too terrified of them to protest. 
Title: Re: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: Diomedes on May 26, 2011, 10:09:37 PM
Settle down, bro.  No one is saying you can't have a gun.  Unless you're a felon.  Or crazy.  Or have been convicted of smacking your woman around.  Or a few other reasons.  All of them pretty reasonable.

Guys like you, awful as you are, presumably pass these criteria, so yay us, you get to have guns too.

I'd just be a lot happier if when you went off your rocker with it, you went to jail for a very long goddamn time.  Psycho.
Title: Re: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: shorebird on May 30, 2011, 11:33:33 AM
well i dont think you should be able to bring a gun outside your residence or business so you can imagine how i feel about bringing it in a club or bar

What about carrying a gun in your vehicle for hunting??
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: ice grillin you on May 31, 2011, 12:33:45 PM
i mentioned there should be some exceptions for sport...but you shouldnt be able to roll around in your car with guns everywhere just because you are a hunter...you have to be going to or returning from hunting...
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: PhillyPhanInDC on May 31, 2011, 04:03:26 PM
i mentioned there should be some exceptions for sport...but you shouldnt be able to roll around in your car with guns everywhere just because you are a hunter...you have to be going to or returning from hunting...

This is a pretty stupid idea. Criminals are going to get weapons. Always have, always will. Right now, if I am walking down the street, and someone tries to mug me, they are going to have a real problem on their hands quick. If I am prohibited from carrying, I'm a much easier target. Cop: 15 minutes, Glock: Right now.


I don't have a problem with this statement assuming "law abiding" also means you have all the permits and licenses required by law. 

Dio, I do have the permits, and even though I didn't have to because of military background, I still went to CCW training put on by the State Police. I make it a point to get at least some gun safety and law training in at least once a year as well.


The funny bit is that I am probably one of the more liberal people you will meet, and I am not a gun nut, ("That there is my new AK-47, pa. It's for home defense, huntin' and whatnot") nor am I into the whole fundy "don't tread on me/don't touch or interpret the Constitution" nonsense. The simple fact is that law abiding, trained, and aware people carrying a  concealed gun pose absolutely no threat to society, in actuality, they help to protect it. That's a fact.
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: ice grillin you on May 31, 2011, 04:23:02 PM
there are ten trillion guns in the country now and like two of them are ever used to prevent a crime

if someone wants you got you are gonna get got...period

ive been robbed at gunpoint twice in the last ten years and neither time would a gun have done anything for me cept probably get a bunch of people killed including me

if someone simply wants to rob you you give them the money and they are gone end of story...no one hurt...however you have a gun and reach for it you get shot

if someone wants to kill you and they creep up you are a dead man...guns do nothing but get more people killed

now if you are in your house thats a different story because maybe you will hear them breaking in or whatever...plus its like your house

people should not be going to the library or the grocery store or the mall with a gun...thats just ridiculous...and if you are going someplace you feel a gun is necessary then you probably shouldnt be going there to begin with
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: MDS on May 31, 2011, 05:03:34 PM
i feel like people who get guns are the same kind of people who buy expensive cars to cover up for the fact that their dick is small. except they are too poor to afford at ferrari. so they buy a handgun and feel all tough and shtein. feel safe. i can protect myself now. i got a gun. you farg with me ill kill you. im a real man. i dont have a small penis anymore.
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: Rome on May 31, 2011, 05:32:12 PM
there are ten trillion guns in the country now and like two of them are ever used to prevent a crime

if someone wants you got you are gonna get got...period

ive been robbed at gunpoint twice in the last ten years and neither time would a gun have done anything for me cept probably get a bunch of people killed including me

if someone simply wants to rob you you give them the money and they are gone end of story...no one hurt...however you have a gun and reach for it you get shot

if someone wants to kill you and they creep up you are a dead man...guns do nothing but get more people killed

now if you are in your house thats a different story because maybe you will hear them breaking in or whatever...plus its like your house

people should not be going to the library or the grocery store or the mall with a gun...thats just ridiculous...and if you are going someplace you feel a gun is necessary then you probably shouldnt be going there to begin with

could be be any more of an ignorant, sheltered, white-bread, suburban silver spoon liberal?

jesus christ.  just stop talking about things you literally have no farging idea what you're talking about, alright? 

Title: Re: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: rjs246 on May 31, 2011, 05:47:18 PM
Pretty sure the Internet would grind to a halt if everyone followed that piece of sound advice. The grownups can talk about this in no hippos board. Why even bother responding here?
Title: Re: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: Diomedes on May 31, 2011, 06:28:59 PM
Dio, I do have the permits, and even though I didn't have to because of military background, I still went to CCW training put on by the State Police. I make it a point to get at least some gun safety and law training in at least once a year as well.

I think you understand that I have zero problem with you or those thousands like you who take all the necessary steps to carry a gun legally. 

My problem is with gun criminals, or more to the point, with the justice system that treats their crimes like minor problems. 

I want super long sentences for gun criminals.  There is no good reason not to punish these people with extremely heavy sentences.

12 year old boy just got killed in Baltimore...inside house, watching teevee.  10 to 1 the fargers who were having a gangbanger shoot out on the street have two or three gun convictions between them, all got out in less than three or four years.

If they were in jail for 30 like they should have been, that boy would be alive.
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: Rome on May 31, 2011, 07:21:18 PM
I'll go along with what you posted there, Dio.  It's a ridiculous tragedy and so are all the other pointless murders that take place because animals can't control themselves.

I think intent goes a long way towards deciding penalties, though.  If it's an act of carelessness and no one gets hurt, then obviously the penalties should be far less severe.  If you farg up and hurt someone through your carelessness, then yeah, lower the boom, and if you smoke some poor innocent civilian in the middle of your turf war, then fire up old smokey and barbecue that ass for all I care.




Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: ice grillin you on May 31, 2011, 07:59:26 PM
there are ten trillion guns in the country now and like two of them are ever used to prevent a crime

if someone wants you got you are gonna get got...period

ive been robbed at gunpoint twice in the last ten years and neither time would a gun have done anything for me cept probably get a bunch of people killed including me

if someone simply wants to rob you you give them the money and they are gone end of story...no one hurt...however you have a gun and reach for it you get shot

if someone wants to kill you and they creep up you are a dead man...guns do nothing but get more people killed

now if you are in your house thats a different story because maybe you will hear them breaking in or whatever...plus its like your house

people should not be going to the library or the grocery store or the mall with a gun...thats just ridiculous...and if you are going someplace you feel a gun is necessary then you probably shouldnt be going there to begin with

could be be any more of an ignorant, sheltered, white-bread, suburban silver spoon liberal?

jesus christ.  just stop talking about things you literally have no farging idea what you're talking about, alright? 




you live in florida and are an old bitter white man who is one chromosome away from being in the tea party...you dont count



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Title: Re: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: Diomedes on May 31, 2011, 08:31:13 PM
I'll go along with what you posted there, Dio.  It's a ridiculous tragedy and so are all the other pointless murders that take place because animals can't control themselves.

I think intent goes a long way towards deciding penalties, though.  If it's an act of carelessness and no one gets hurt, then obviously the penalties should be far less severe.  If you farg up and hurt someone through your carelessness, then yeah, lower the boom, and if you smoke some poor innocent civilian in the middle of your turf war, then fire up old smokey and barbecue that ass for all I care.

I wonder if people think I'm saying you should go to jail for forty years if you're a day late renewing your carry license?  Do the earplugs come out as soon as anyone is talking about guns?

Obviously, you need some discretion.  That's what judges and juries and courts are for. 

I'm not talking anything about putting lawful people in jail because they happen to have guns, I'm not advocating they have their guns taken away, and I am not telling them they have to burn the American flag and rape their mothers.

Gun crime is taken far far too lightly in our criminal justice system.  Pointing one at someone should send you away for 20 minimum.

Don't disagree with me because you hate liberals or because you think I'm saying you should go to jail for having a gun...sentences (and actual time served) are so laughably low you have to wonder if at the end of the day, the american people just don't mind all the gun murders.

Especially as long as they are mostly black on black.

Yay America.

(yes, I'm drinking.)
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: ice grillin you on May 31, 2011, 08:38:13 PM
every time theres violence shown in the media....its always a black thing so where are they leading ya?...to a world full of ignorance hatred, and prejudice...tv and the news for years they have fed you this...foolish notion that blacks are all criminals...violent low lifes and then even animals...

theyve done it for a while and developed the skill...to make you want to kill your own brother man....black against black you see its part of their plan...they want to send us to war and they want to ban rap...what they really want to do is get rid of us blacks...genocide is for real and i hope that youre hearing me...you must be aware to combat the CONSPIRACY!

Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: PhillyPhanInDC on May 31, 2011, 08:49:28 PM
Dio, I'm all for that. I am also for stronger sentences for any other stupid use of a deadly weapon, including cars.


there are ten trillion guns in the country now and like two of them are ever used to prevent a crime


Hyperbole, which is shocking coming from you. Not based on any facts whatsoever. As I have pointed out, I have stopped two crimes - one in progress, the other most definitely about to occur (as judged by both the police and the court), with my firearm. I have also been robbed, while carrying, and let the guy run off after he had taken my wallet and phone. Never thought about pulling the gun.

Likely due to of your obvious lack of understanding on the matter, you seem to think that because I carry a gun, I whip it out Western style if I even so much as think something is going to go down.


Pretty sure the Internet would grind to a halt if everyone followed that piece of sound advice. The grownups can talk about this in no hippos board. Why even bother responding here?

Good point. I took the IGY bait. I've said my piece.

Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: ice grillin you on May 31, 2011, 08:54:34 PM
mo guns in mo places less problems

its a fact
Title: Re: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: Seabiscuit36 on May 31, 2011, 10:44:18 PM
Pretty sure the Internet would grind to a halt if everyone followed that piece of sound advice. The grownups can talk about this in no hippos board. Why even bother responding here?
.
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: ice grillin you on May 31, 2011, 10:47:53 PM
Pretty sure the Internet would grind to a halt if everyone followed that piece of sound advice. The grownups can talk about this in the middle american board where salty old white people can have their neanderthalic opinons validated by each other. Why even bother responding here?
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: Munson on May 31, 2011, 10:49:41 PM
Does IGY not realize that the same people that prompted FF to name it the "leftist circle jerk" thread are the ones posting in No Hippos?
Title: Re: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: Seabiscuit36 on May 31, 2011, 10:52:31 PM
I'm old and salty?  Gotta ask the wifey on that one. 
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: ice grillin you on May 31, 2011, 10:56:07 PM
old and salty thinking...when you live in northeast md stockpile weapons and baked beans in your basement for the impending end of the world or some govt takeover you are old.....and salty
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: Tomahawk on June 01, 2011, 12:48:52 AM
there are ten trillion guns in the country now and like two of them are ever used to prevent a crime

if someone wants you got you are gonna get got...period

ive been robbed at gunpoint twice in the last ten years and neither time would a gun have done anything for me cept probably get a bunch of people killed including me

if someone simply wants to rob you you give them the money and they are gone end of story...no one hurt...however you have a gun and reach for it you get shot

if someone wants to kill you and they creep up you are a dead man...guns do nothing but get more people killed

now if you are in your house thats a different story because maybe you will hear them breaking in or whatever...plus its like your house

people should not be going to the library or the grocery store or the mall with a gun...thats just ridiculous...and if you are going someplace you feel a gun is necessary then you probably shouldnt be going there to begin with

could be be any more of an ignorant, sheltered, white-bread, suburban silver spoon liberal?

jesus christ.  just stop talking about things you literally have no farging idea what you're talking about, alright? 




you live in florida and are an old bitter white man who is one chromosome away from being in the tea party...you dont count



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ILL is a blue state; I'm not MA!
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: ice grillin you on June 01, 2011, 12:53:53 AM
lol its funny you say that because i always question that call as well....shtein phillymic is from illinois so its gotta be red right?...but i think they figure any state with chicago in it has to be blue

btw what is the gov/congress breakdown for illinois over the past lets say 25 years
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: ice grillin you on June 01, 2011, 01:04:04 AM
illinois

in the last 45 years - 5 dems and 4 pubs in the gov mansion
dems have held the mansion for the last 8

illinois senators since 1970
5 dems and 3 pubs

seems purple to me

but again chicago is the deciding factor they were using
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: Tomahawk on June 01, 2011, 01:05:43 AM
No idea, but Chicago is the new Vegas:

http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/06/01/us-chicago-casino-idUSTRE74T5LV20110601 (http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/06/01/us-chicago-casino-idUSTRE74T5LV20110601)
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: ice grillin you on June 01, 2011, 01:09:21 AM
casinos are basically the new factories in america...its beyond sad but its true....almost to the point that a bleeding heart liberal like me looks at it as almost a necessity
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: phillymic2000 on June 01, 2011, 10:36:02 AM
lol its funny you say that because i always question that call as well....shtein phillymic is from illinois so its gotta be red right?...but i think they figure any state with chicago in it has to be blue

btw what is the gov/congress breakdown for illinois over the past lets say 25 years

Illinois has gone back and forth, but mainly since the late 80's to early 90's has trended heavily democratic (except for that abortion Gov. Ryan). Chicago, East St. Louis and my area N.W. IL. tend to be with the dems. Down state and the chitown western burbs tend to be repubs.

The Senate and house of Reps has been mainly controlled by Dems for a long time. I find it funny that the IEA and Unions religiously pimp and vote democrat and these same people they vote in are raising taxes and spending this state into the farging ground. We had an 8 billion dollar deficit from just last year, but the Govenor doesn't want to cut spending, just raise taxes to cover what we are currently spending. This place is a disaster.
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: Tomahawk on June 01, 2011, 02:10:28 PM
casinos are basically the new factories in america...its beyond sad but its true....almost to the point that a bleeding heart liberal like me looks at it as almost a necessity

Factories as in a place for employment with no more than a high school diploma?

A state run casino is basically betting against it's people.
Title: Re: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: Sgt PSN on June 01, 2011, 02:49:41 PM
Uh, I'm pretty sure the dealers have to go to some sort of 2 week casino college.
Title: Re: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: Seabiscuit36 on June 02, 2011, 09:03:53 AM
old and salty thinking...when you live in northeast md stockpile weapons and baked beans in your basement for the impending end of the world or some govt takeover you are old.....and salty
I don't eat beans you (http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_ZarcbbQIJfM/SSYXj91sY1I/AAAAAAAAACE/gBuA-8JNpEM/s400/Big+Silly+Goose.jpg)
Title: Re: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: lurking wierdo on June 02, 2011, 01:39:29 PM
why should you ever legally be able to carry a gun in public?

i just dont understand this


Personal Protection.
Title: Re: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: lurking wierdo on June 02, 2011, 01:45:34 PM
every time theres violence shown in the media....its always a black thing so where are they leading ya?...to a world full of ignorance hatred, and prejudice...tv and the news for years they have fed you this...foolish notion that blacks are all criminals...violent low lifes and then even animals...

theyve done it for a while and developed the skill...to make you want to kill your own brother man....black against black you see its part of their plan...they want to send us to war and they want to ban rap...what they really want to do is get rid of us blacks...genocide is for real and i hope that youre hearing me...you must be aware to combat the CONSPIRACY!



If you can't honestly admit that BLACK MEN commit violent crimes at a far greater rate per capita then white men then you are retarded.
Title: Re: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: lurking wierdo on June 02, 2011, 01:49:01 PM
Settle down, bro.  No one is saying you can't have a gun.  Unless you're a felon.  Or crazy.  Or have been convicted of smacking your woman around.  Or a few other reasons.  All of them pretty reasonable.

Guys like you, awful as you are, presumably pass these criteria, so yay us, you get to have guns too.

I'd just be a lot happier if when you went off your rocker with it, you went to jail for a very long goddamn time.  Psycho.
If am a law abiding citizen that goes through the training and evaluation necessary to carry a firearm, and there should be no impediment to that.

I don't have a problem with this statement assuming "law abiding" also means you have all the permits and licenses required by law.  

If you don't, and you carry anyway, you're a danger to the community and when convicted, you should be locked up for a long time.

It's real simple.  Legal gun owners/users have nothing to fear...gun criminals go away for very very long sentences.




If am a law abiding citizen that goes through the training and evaluation necessary to carry a firearm, and there should be no impediment to that.

I don't have a problem with this statement assuming "law abiding" also means you have all the permits and licenses required by law.  

If you don't, and you carry anyway, you're a danger to the community and when convicted, you should be locked up for a long time.

It's real simple.  Legal gun owners/users have nothing to fear...gun criminals go away for very very long sentences.




The amount of "permits and licenses" and red tape is pure bull shtein.
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: ice grillin you on March 08, 2013, 09:55:18 PM
responsible gun owner gets her even less responsible gun holder 10 year old son to kill her responsible gun owner husband

http://www.wane.com/dpp/news/crime/Police-Woman-had-10-year-old-boy-shoot-husband
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: ice grillin you on March 09, 2013, 08:42:58 PM
dont worry honey i will save you....BLAM!!...baby why are you on the floor?


responsible gun owners protecting the family

http://www.kapptv.com/article/2013/mar/08/pregnant-woman-accidentally-shot-husband-terrace-h/
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: PhillyPhanInDC on March 19, 2013, 08:38:46 AM
Quote
Intruder shot and killed by Sterling homeowner was high school student

STERLING, Va. -
The Loudoun County Sheriff's office has identified an intruder shot and killed by a homeowner in Sterling.

The student, identified by investigators as 16-year-old Caleb A. Gordley, lived on the same street as the home where the shooting took place and reportedly had been drinking alcohol with friends that evening. He was a student at Park View High.

Officers say a resident reported that their house alarm on the 45900 block of Pullman Court was activated around 2:30 a.m. Sunday. As the homeowner went to investigate, he discovered an unknown male inside their home. Gordley was shot and killed in the incident.

Loudoun County sheriff's investigators say the neighbor shot and killed Gordley on the stairwell after the teen entered the house through a back window, triggering the burglar alarm.

Sheriff's officials say Gordley had reportedly been drinking alcohol with friends that night.

A relative tweeted "let it be known that Caleb *accidentally* entered the wrong house after a party last night."

The houses are two doors apart. Same color brick and shudders. Same kind of back yard fence. But the front doors are different.

Caleb Gordley was a 16-year-old junior, a three-sports athlete: basketball, baseball and football at Park View High School in Sterling where the hallways were especially quiet today. Students wearing black and orange in Caleb's honor.

"It's hard because we don't really know," says Pablo Rivera, student body president at Park View HS. "There's not really words to describe how we feel right now. Everybody's sort of in a state of comatose. We're just trying to let it sink in."

"It's probably going to be a really quiet day," says Caleb's basketball teammate Nilanka Lord. "A lot of people were in class with him, lot of people were close to him, really popular guy. So it's going to be tough for us as a school to get over this."

"Absolutely great student athlete I enjoyed coaching very much," says Park View HS Boys Basketball Coach Mike Koscinski. "We spent a lot of time during the season. He's stay after practice and work really hard. Extremely enthusiastic. I'm just, everyone's devastated."

The Loudoun County Sheriff's Office says, "The 16-year-old lived on the same street as the home where the shooting took place and reportedly had been drinking alcohol with friends that evening. A rear window to the home was found opened and is believed to be the point of entry into the home.."

Neighbors say the man who owns the home where the shooting took place is a volunteer firefighter who is well liked in the neighborhood.

Later Sunday afternoon, police were called back again to the area after a confrontation between the homeowner and another man.

Several people inside the home where the shooting took place packed up a car with bags and pets and left the neighborhood,  FOX 5's Melanie Alnwick reported.

Messed up story all around. As much as I'd like to think I'd have acted differently, I doubt I would have.
Title: Re: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: Sgt PSN on March 19, 2013, 09:30:38 AM
Sad story.  Definitely sounds like the kid accidentally went in the wrong house since he was drunk and was probably just trying to go to bed.  Can't say I blame the homeowner at all.....at least not based on the info given in the story. 
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: Tomahawk on March 19, 2013, 09:39:35 AM
That's going to make the neighborhood block parties a little more awkward.
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: MDS on March 19, 2013, 01:31:16 PM
wayne la pierre is furiously cranking it to that story
Title: Re: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: Seabiscuit36 on March 19, 2013, 05:03:25 PM
http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2013/03/19/dad-this-picture-of-my-son-holding-a-gun-triggered-a-visit-from-nj-police-family-services/

Dad puts facebook pictures of his son holding a .22cal AR, Concerned citizens alert NJ Child Protection.  2nd ammendment Hilarity ensues. 
Title: Re: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: Diomedes on March 19, 2013, 05:24:53 PM
waaah

there's always some sob story from a paranoid gun nut about how, despite his poor judgement, the state didn't take his guns afterall
Title: Re: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: Sgt PSN on March 19, 2013, 11:35:03 PM
http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2013/03/19/dad-this-picture-of-my-son-holding-a-gun-triggered-a-visit-from-nj-police-family-services/

Dad puts facebook pictures of his son holding a .22cal AR, Concerned citizens alert NJ Child Protection.  2nd ammendment Hilarity ensues. 

First thought when I saw the pic was that the kid had his finger off the trigger, which told me that his dad taught him proper safety.  Then I read the article and saw he's an instructor.

Can't beleive someone called child services for this crap. And the overzelous agent needs a good shagging. Uptight bitch.
Title: Re: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: Seabiscuit36 on March 20, 2013, 06:35:58 AM
That's what I thought stood out Sarge.  Guy knows his stuff, has the credentials.  The kid is holding a .22lr which makes the whole "Assault Weapon" tag a joke.  And yeah, the child services lady needs a drink and a date. 
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: Geowhizzer on March 20, 2013, 07:18:16 AM
The woman wanted inside to search the residence, and wouldn't identify herself.

To me this is as much, if not more of a 4th amendment issue than 2nd.  No matter which side of the gun control debate you are on, to me this is illegal search and seizure.
Title: Re: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: Tomahawk on March 20, 2013, 08:42:38 AM
http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2013/03/19/dad-this-picture-of-my-son-holding-a-gun-triggered-a-visit-from-nj-police-family-services/

Dad puts facebook pictures of his son holding a .22cal AR, Concerned citizens alert NJ Child Protection.  2nd ammendment Hilarity ensues.

New Jersey is a nazi
Title: Re: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: Sgt PSN on March 20, 2013, 09:18:20 AM
The woman wanted inside to search the residence, and wouldn't identify herself.

To me this is as much, if not more of a 4th amendment issue than 2nd.  No matter which side of the gun control debate you are on, to me this is illegal search and seizure.

Yeah, it's outrageous that she thinks she can make such demands without a court order.  Child Services knows who they dispatched to that house so I hope they reprimand her for being completely unprofessional.  Kudos to the cops for not getting involved other than maintaining a presence, too. 
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: Tomahawk on March 20, 2013, 09:28:53 AM
Lady obviously has an anti-gun agenda and is willing to abuse her authority to further it.
Title: Re: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: Eagaholic on March 20, 2013, 12:39:34 PM
Well, to be fair that that publication has an agenda of its own so who knows how much of that is true. 
Title: Re: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: Diomedes on March 20, 2013, 05:10:56 PM
^^^

As does the sole source quoted, and he's a lawyer at that. 
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: ice grillin you on March 24, 2013, 12:27:10 AM
man accidentily fires gun....other mans head accidentily gets in the way


http://www.northwestohio.com/news/story.aspx?id=875937#.UU5-3hlAte4
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: hbionic on March 24, 2013, 02:09:35 AM
man accidentily fires gun....other mans head accidentily gets in the way


 :-D :-D :-D
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on March 24, 2013, 01:25:56 PM
http://thinkprogress.org/politics/2013/03/23/1766441/gun-lobby-bombards-newtown-families-with-robocalls-against-gun-regulations/?mobile=wp

The NRA is sending postcards and automatic calls to Newtown residents telling them to oppose the assault weapons ban.

The fargin balls on these people.
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: ice grillin you on April 03, 2013, 06:50:25 PM
i shtein you not

http://www.newhavenindependent.org/index.php/archives/entry/gun_control/id_56792
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: ice grillin you on May 10, 2013, 12:14:23 PM
responsible gun owner goes to sleep on top of gun....because he forgot.....then BLAM!

http://www.poconorecord.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20130510/NEWS/305100337/-1/news
Title: Re: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: General_Failure on May 11, 2013, 11:28:02 PM
Trenton hostage situation passes 24 hours (http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/05/11/18194545-trenton-hostage-situation-passes-24-hours?lite)

Quote
A hostage situation in the New Jersey capital of Trenton passed its 24th hour on Saturday as police worked to coax out an unidentified armed man who has taken “multiple” hostages amid reports of fatalities.

Negotiations continued in the standoff Saturday said Trenton Police spokesman Lt. Steve Varn. He declined to comment on reports that a woman and child had been killed in the home where the gunman is holed up.
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: ice grillin you on July 20, 2013, 12:27:00 PM
tough guy shoots five year old


http://www.delawareonline.com/article/20130720/NEWS01/307200009/Wilmington-police-New-Jersey-man-arrested-5-year-old-girl-s-shooting
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: ice grillin you on July 21, 2013, 12:35:22 AM
"accident"

http://sacramento.cbslocal.com/2013/07/20/gun-accidentally-fired-inside-stockton-movie-theater/
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on July 29, 2013, 11:13:42 AM
http://gawker.com/unarmed-man-shot-by-deputies-inside-his-own-car-outside-949237195?utm_campaign=socialflow_gawker_twitter&utm_source=gawker_twitter&utm_medium=socialflow
Title: Re: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: Sgt PSN on July 29, 2013, 02:33:09 PM
Either this dude was really taking his sweet ass time looking for his cigarettes, or the neighbor who called it in said "There's a black man......" and the cops were all over it like stink on shtein. 
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: MDS on July 29, 2013, 02:39:43 PM
he was a black guy in florida, which is basically grounds for death
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: ice grillin you on August 03, 2013, 10:04:22 PM
guns dont kill people beer and video games do....duh?


http://hamptonroads.com/2013/07/norfolk-shooting-death-was-accident-friend-says
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on August 05, 2013, 08:40:36 PM
http://www.cnn.com/2013/08/05/us/pennsylvania-town-hall-shooting/index.html

Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: MDS on August 05, 2013, 11:24:24 PM
pennsyltucky gettin it done
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on August 06, 2013, 11:25:05 PM
Man shot dead in west Houston, possible road rage
http://www.khou.com/home/Man-shot-dead-in-west-Houston-after-possible-road-rage-218621041.html
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on August 07, 2013, 08:25:45 PM
http://m.cbsnews.com/storysynopsis.rbml?&pageType=general&catid=57597434&feed_id=999&videofeed=999&nb_splitPage=1
Title: Re: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: Diomedes on August 07, 2013, 08:59:33 PM
http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/maryland/crime/blog/bs-md-ci-shooter-sentencing-20130803,0,3344620.story

25 year old sentenced to six life terms for multiple shootings WITH ALL BUT SIXTY YEARS suspended.  On good behavior, this d-bag is out in 25, 30 years.  He'll be what, 50, 55 years old.  Plenty of time to shoot again.  Why would anyone think he might shoot again (other than his extremely anti social gun shooting spree?)...oh there it is in the last line of the article. 

Motherfarger already had a handgun conviction before any of this went down.

There is no other explanation for going easy on people like this than that we like our guns better than our children.  Given the choice, we daily choose to let the gun nuts have their guns and get out of trouble for using them.

God damn this mad country.
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: Geowhizzer on August 07, 2013, 09:11:47 PM
Had a training about gangs today.  These gangs are spreading, and across racial and socio-economic lines.  Some scary stuff going on out there.  None of us are immune, whether in urban, suburban or rural areas.

Our School Resource Officer (member of the Sheriff's Department) showed us this video today.  It's part of the reasoning behind tucked shirts being part of the dress code.  I used to consider all the stress on it overkill, but I'm beginning to be convinced.  Maybe it's because I'm reaching Romey age.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y20B-lsbi4g
Title: Re: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: Diomedes on August 07, 2013, 09:19:27 PM
What a joke.  That man couldn't have taken a half step without weapons falling all over the floor.

It's got all the marks of a PSA made by out of touch, scared, grown ups.

Tucked shirts--like any dress code--may well help to keep order in a school, but that video doesn't convince me of shtein.  Tuck his shirt in and stand him still and he could have hid plenty enough guns to make CNN.

So long as he didn't have to actually walk around.
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: Geowhizzer on August 07, 2013, 09:22:23 PM
The video itself isn't what's convincing me.  Sorry if I made it sound like that.
Title: Re: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: Diomedes on August 07, 2013, 09:27:14 PM
Can we get back to the part about farg America and it's obsession with guns?  I just don't have a boner for this talk about tucking in your shirt, getting off my lawn, etc.
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: Geowhizzer on August 07, 2013, 09:36:04 PM
How about this:  The cop doing the gang presentation said that he thought that teachers should be allowed to have guns in the classroom.

Bad, bad, bad, BAD idea.
Title: Re: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: Diomedes on August 07, 2013, 09:40:42 PM
I dunno, it could work.  Stop detentions and all that, just let the teachers shoot the bad actors.  Mouth off in class, blam!

Maybe our students would actually behave and learn something for a change.
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on August 07, 2013, 09:48:41 PM
I think I read that some Arkansas schools will arm teachers?

Either way - until the gun lobby is stonewalled and not allowed to influence these politicians nothing will be done.
Title: Re: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: Diomedes on August 07, 2013, 09:58:40 PM
I don't see the NRA up in arms over people like Darnell Sewell getting softball sentences that allow them to rejoin society after repeated, maniac gun crimes.

No...what they are upset about is background checks and training requirements.
Title: Re: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: rjs246 on August 07, 2013, 09:59:05 PM
I am laugh out louding at the gang menace in the mean suburban streets of America. Jesus Christ it's sad how easy it is to scare people into believing that we're all on the verge of being devoured by lawless hordes. I know it doesn't sell advertising but we live in a safe country during the safest period in the history of human existence.

Hide your women! Tuck in your shirts! The poors are coming and they've got second amendment rights in their baggy jeans!!!
Title: Re: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: Eagaholic on August 08, 2013, 09:32:30 AM
I think it's reasonable for teachers to carry automatic weapons. And they also need to bring back the drills for students to hide under the desk for when the communists drop atom bombs.
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: ice grillin you on August 08, 2013, 09:54:54 AM
Had a training about gangs today.  These gangs are spreading, and across racial and socio-economic lines.  Some scary stuff going on out there.  None of us are immune, whether in urban, suburban or rural areas.

Our School Resource Officer (member of the Sheriff's Department) showed us this video today.  It's part of the reasoning behind tucked shirts being part of the dress code.  I used to consider all the stress on it overkill, but I'm beginning to be convinced.  Maybe it's because I'm reaching Romey age.


lol
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: ice grillin you on August 09, 2013, 07:43:11 AM
http://www.philly.com/philly/news/218945691.html
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on August 21, 2013, 07:25:10 PM
http://gawker.com/how-one-woman-talked-the-would-be-georgia-school-shoote-1178217739?utm_campaign=socialflow_gawker_twitter&utm_source=gawker_twitter&utm_medium=socialflow
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: MDS on August 22, 2013, 03:52:12 AM
was that the first direct copycat of newtown? well...first attempt at it.

now how exactly did this severely damaged person get all these guns? is it ok to talk about this since nobody died?
Title: Re: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: shorebird on August 22, 2013, 07:05:31 AM
I am laugh out louding at the gang menace in the mean suburban streets of America. Jesus Christ it's sad how easy it is to scare people into believing that we're all on the verge of being devoured by lawless hordes. I know it doesn't sell advertising but we live in a safe country during the safest period in the history of human existence.

Hide your women! Tuck in your shirts! The poors are coming and they've got second amendment rights in their baggy jeans!

East Baltimore says hello.
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: ice grillin you on August 22, 2013, 07:25:13 AM
you mean west.....it probably doubles east baltimore murders
Title: Re: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: Diomedes on August 22, 2013, 05:41:20 PM
Yeah shore you've got it backwards.

But let's not quibble...either side of town is a good place to get cut down if you're a young black male, or if you are physically near them for any reason.
Title: Re: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: shorebird on August 23, 2013, 12:17:10 PM
Yeah, according to this map (http://chamspage.blogspot.com/2013/01/2013-baltimore-city-homicides.html) and list for 2013 indicates you can get wasted just about any were in Baltimore.

This map (http://data.baltimoresun.com/bing-maps/homicides/index.php?range=2013&district=all&zipcode=all&age=all&gender=all&race=all&cause=all&article=all&show_results=Show+results) from the Sun backs up the previous one.
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: phattymatty on August 23, 2013, 12:44:13 PM
only one person got choked out. not bad.
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: Sgt PSN on August 23, 2013, 01:28:28 PM
I am laugh out louding at the gang menace in the mean suburban streets of America. Jesus Christ it's sad how easy it is to scare people into believing that we're all on the verge of being devoured by lawless hordes. I know it doesn't sell advertising but we live in a safe country during the safest period in the history of human existence.

Hide your women! Tuck in your shirts! The poors are coming and they've got second amendment rights in their baggy jeans!

East Baltimore says hello.

Even after having the luxury of replying to this 2 weeks after it was posted, you somehow still missed the most crucial element of it which was that the entire comment was about suburbs, not urban areas like East Baltimore. 
Title: Re: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: General_Failure on August 25, 2013, 08:54:42 PM
Police: 8-year-old shoots, kills elderly caregiver after video game (http://edition.cnn.com/2013/08/25/us/louisiana-boy-kills-grandmother)

8 year old has access to a loaded gun and kills somebody with it? Better blame them vidya games.
Title: Re: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: Zanshin on August 26, 2013, 08:13:08 AM
Slaughter, LA. Nice. GTA4 was made for 8 year old kids, right? I mean, how else would they learn about cool things to do with their easily accessible guns?
Title: Re: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: General_Failure on August 26, 2013, 01:15:44 PM
Totally, that's why they went to all the trouble of making a rating system and classifying it as Mature. You don't want some baby 7 year old getting their hands on this stuff.
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: hbionic on August 26, 2013, 08:17:51 PM
Does anyone watch CNN Newsroom?

I was watching today, and during the John Lewis inteview, at 1:34ET in Washington on the clock above his right shoulder, as he says, "equality for some", in the video shot above his left shoulder, there's a weird little creature that flies by...but it looks like the video is in reverse...but I try to forward frame by frame and I can't make out what it is.

Anyone else catch it? I took video with my phone in case anyone else wants to analyze it. If it's a reflection, I don't know what the farg it would be. It looks like a dragonfly, but not really because it splits into 3-4 colors and just is weird. I should post it to youtube.

If anyone is curious, IM your cell number and I'll forward you the video...I promise no video of me wanking off.

If you guys think I should, I'll post it on youtube for the world to see. And criticize.
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: Tomahawk on August 27, 2013, 08:53:12 AM
Post it to youtube, don't give us the link, and shut the farg up about it
Title: Re: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: Sgt PSN on August 29, 2013, 08:27:03 AM
Lawmaker calling to arm teachers accidentally shoots a teacher (http://gawker.com/lawmaker-leading-call-for-arming-teachers-accidentally-1216609648)

lolz
Title: Re: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: Sgt PSN on August 29, 2013, 08:34:38 AM
http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/news/the-gun-industrys-deadly-addiction-20130228

Excellent read. 
Title: Re: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: General_Failure on August 30, 2013, 01:33:07 PM
Cops: man shoots himself while biking, blames gang (http://www.chron.com/news/crime/article/Cops-man-shoots-himself-while-biking-blames-gang-4774414.php)
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: Rome on August 31, 2013, 08:36:54 AM
(http://img19.imageshack.us/img19/4725/ksho.png)

Greatest license plate ever?
Title: Re: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: General_Failure on September 09, 2013, 05:32:46 PM
Guess who just can't stay out of the spotlight? (http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-504083_162-57602050-504083/george-zimmerman-taken-into-custody-after-incident-with-gun/)
Title: Re: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: Diomedes on September 09, 2013, 05:33:57 PM
Is he armed all the time?  He was carrying a gun when the Texas highway cops pulled him over just after the trial, wasn't he?
Title: Re: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: General_Failure on September 09, 2013, 05:36:16 PM
He's a vigilante with anger issues, of course he's armed at all times.
Title: Re: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: Diomedes on September 09, 2013, 05:40:38 PM
Huh...I never thought of that way.  There really aren't vigilantes that don't have anger issues, are there?
Title: Re: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: General_Failure on September 09, 2013, 05:42:54 PM
Batman has abandonment issues more than anger issues.
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: ice grillin you on September 09, 2013, 05:45:22 PM
theres tons of people in the greater sanford area whod love to peel his cap....id be packin at all times to
Title: Re: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: Diomedes on September 09, 2013, 05:59:42 PM
Punisher is more the type than Batman, I agree.
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on September 09, 2013, 07:07:40 PM
theres tons of people in the greater sanford area whod love to peel his cap....id be packin at all times to

Lol peel his cap...first time I've heard that
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: Rome on September 09, 2013, 08:18:28 PM
hopefully he kills himself.
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: Tomahawk on September 10, 2013, 01:57:59 AM
hopefully he kills himself.

Why do you hate batman?
Title: Re: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: General_Failure on September 10, 2013, 02:09:27 AM
Motherfarger just won't leave his Mister J alone.
Title: Re: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: Zanshin on September 10, 2013, 08:12:23 AM
Motherfarger just won't leave his Mister J alone.

That's funny. But you realize that like two people, maybe, will get that, right?
Title: Re: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: General_Failure on September 10, 2013, 12:29:30 PM
When has that ever stopped me?
Title: Re: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: Zanshin on September 10, 2013, 01:47:44 PM
Oh, it shouldn't. I say most things to amuse myself.
Title: Re: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: Sgt PSN on September 10, 2013, 01:53:39 PM
Oh, it shouldn't. I say most things to amuse myself.

Well that's good, because your commentary does nothing for the rest of us. 
Title: Re: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: Zanshin on September 10, 2013, 01:55:27 PM
There, there. I try to dumb it down every now and again for the masses. I'll take it down an extra notch for you.
Title: Re: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: Sgt PSN on September 10, 2013, 01:57:29 PM
Finally.
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on September 15, 2013, 02:07:05 AM
http://www.cnn.com/2013/09/15/justice/north-carolina-police-shooting/index.html
Title: Re: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: shorebird on September 15, 2013, 12:21:59 PM
I live in an urban area. We've had 4 shootings this year, one fatal. The last one was a drive by at a bbq.
Title: Re: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: ice grillin you on September 15, 2013, 07:12:59 PM
I live in an urban area.

huh?
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: MDS on September 15, 2013, 07:18:59 PM
lol

do old white men think urban = 1 colored
Title: Re: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: shorebird on September 16, 2013, 12:28:49 AM
Well...what would you call a place like, say, Glen Burnie?
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: ice grillin you on September 16, 2013, 08:24:03 AM
i thought you lived on the eastern shore?

anyway glen burnie is not even remotely urban
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on October 04, 2013, 10:19:13 PM
http://gawker.com/oregon-police-release-horrifying-dashcam-video-of-fatal-1441208697
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: MDS on October 05, 2013, 04:28:57 AM
another waste of oxygen no longer using oxygen

good
Title: Re: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: Diomedes on October 05, 2013, 06:35:07 AM
What are the odds one of those kids will grow up, fall in love, and marry the little girl who was in the back seat of that car in DC the other day.

I'd send them a fire extinguisher for a wedding gift.
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: AO1 on October 07, 2013, 05:51:37 PM
http://gawker.com/oregon-police-release-horrifying-dashcam-video-of-fatal-1441208697

Says the motorist was shot in the chest and later found dead, didn't look like he took any shots.


Good friend of mine's father in law was murdered in an attempted robbery at his house. He was shot in the chest with a shotgun. Final verdict came down this afternoon, guilty on first and second degree murder:
http://www.buckscountycouriertimes.com/news/local/powell-gist-found-guilty-of-murder-in-degennaro-case/article_e40c7311-d9ae-58c3-848a-cbed7239e19c.html
Title: Re: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: Diomedes on February 01, 2014, 09:11:31 PM
http://blogs.forward.com/jj-goldberg/176043/more-killed-by-toddlers-than-terrorists-in-us/

Quote
Number of persons killed on American soil so far this year by terrorists: 3.
Number of persons killed on American soil so far this year by toddlers: 5.
Title: Re: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: General_Failure on February 01, 2014, 11:15:18 PM
Step up your game, terrorists.
Title: Re: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: Sgt PSN on February 02, 2014, 02:11:33 AM
Ban toddlers.
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: ice grillin you on February 02, 2014, 02:13:35 AM
to be fair it is only january....i fully expect terrorists to make a run in the warmer months
Title: Re: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: General_Failure on February 02, 2014, 02:29:14 AM
That's not what Arab Spring means, IGY.
Title: Re: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: Seabiscuit36 on February 07, 2014, 10:56:27 AM
http://www.cnn.com/video/data/2.0/video/us/2014/02/06/tsr-dnt-simon-power-grid-sniper-attack.cnn.html

Honestly, between the animation of a 12ga shooting the powergrid, or the electrical lines randomly sparking, how do you take this seriously.  Ban Guns
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: ice grillin you on February 15, 2014, 08:00:22 PM
another awesome verdict in florida
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on February 15, 2014, 08:44:36 PM
Florida and their legal system is laughable
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: Geowhizzer on February 15, 2014, 09:25:37 PM
Ridiculous that the jury was able to find him guilty for attempted murder, but fail to convict on the one who actually died.

I can see not convicting of first degree (was it proved to be premeditated)- but the jury had the option for second, or manslaughter.
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: ice grillin you on February 15, 2014, 09:27:43 PM
Ridiculous that the jury was able to find him guilty for attempted murder, but fail to convict on the one who actually died.

I can see not convicting of first degree (was it proved to be premeditated)- but the jury had the option for second, or manslaughter.

basically they said we definitely think he tried to murder the three people who lived...but we cant decide if he murdered the one person who died
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on February 15, 2014, 09:32:25 PM
Exactly.

farging idiots. I'd give anything to have been in the jury room to listen to the twisted icehole logic being bantered between those dopes
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: MDS on February 16, 2014, 01:44:43 AM
But worse, we're going to be dealing with a Baltimore city Florida jury and a good man is hard to find in this town state.
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: Rome on February 16, 2014, 09:02:38 AM
Florida and their legal system is laughable

Whereas Texas is a land of milk and honey.

 
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on February 16, 2014, 12:32:08 PM
This place is whack too...but Florida takes the cake when it comes to farged up legal rulings.

Casey Anthony and George Zimmerman should marry and do a reality show
Title: Re: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: General_Failure on February 16, 2014, 03:02:26 PM
Say what you want about Texas but at least they're willing, and often eager, to put someone on death row.
Title: Re: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: Geowhizzer on February 16, 2014, 03:59:54 PM
Say what you want about Texas but at least they're willing, and often eager, to put someone on death row.

Sadly, Florida is up there in executions (4th since the death penalty was reinstated in 1976).  I do find it funny that Virginia has more.

1117 in the South, 4 in the Northeast (3 in PA) according to this source (http://www.deathpenaltyinfo.org/number-executions-state-and-region-1976).
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: ice grillin you on February 16, 2014, 04:06:53 PM
i was reading a couple weeks ago how because those sissy euros are against the death penalty they have limited the export of the drugs that form the lethal injection cocktail so states here are looking to bring back old school execution techniques....some state senator in missorui even introduced a bill to reinstate the firing squad
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: Geowhizzer on February 16, 2014, 04:13:39 PM
Yeah, there's talk about Florida going back to "Ol' Sparky."

(http://symonsez.files.wordpress.com/2008/04/sparky.jpg)
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on February 16, 2014, 07:05:56 PM
Seeing that uniform brings back memories! Good ol TDCJ gray!

The amount of amnesty international people who write to and visit guys on death row amazed me. Like smoking hot women from Sweden and France and other countries flying in to visit these dudes.

That made visitation duty bearable looking at those pieces of ass. Cell searches were good too when we'd find the nudes they'd send.
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: hbionic on February 16, 2014, 08:48:30 PM
I'm stupid when it comes to prison...but are inmates allowed to bang their girlfriends/wives while incarcerated?
Title: Re: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: Diomedes on February 16, 2014, 08:51:32 PM
Some are, yes.  Not by the feds, and only by a handful of states.
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: hbionic on February 16, 2014, 10:14:38 PM
So, assuming that it is one of the states that allows it...and some random, horny, crazy chick just comes out of the blue to bang you...they'd allow it?

I'm not planning anything per se...just curious.
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on February 16, 2014, 10:43:27 PM
Not in Texas. The dudes would sit there staring at these fine chicks during visitation and then talk about blue balls and how they were going to hit the fee-fee (homemade pocket Hoyda) when we'd escort them back to the cellblock.
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: hbionic on February 17, 2014, 02:53:27 AM
Now there's a term I've never heard before...a fee-fee. I've heard of pocket Hoyda, but never called a fee-fee.

Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on February 26, 2014, 09:23:57 PM
Real Sports top story this week is kids with guns and how companies are marketing to the young people for competition shooting.

Just showed about a four or five year old girl shooting a Ar15 with her pops.

Title: Re: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: Diomedes on February 26, 2014, 09:38:46 PM
was she aiming at a bin Laden target, or a silhouette hoodie?
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on February 26, 2014, 09:44:23 PM
No but that's not far behind.

They sent a kid (13) into convenience stores to try to buy beer, lotto tickets, smokes and porn and he was shut down. Walks into a gun show and buys a .22 rifle no problem.
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: ice grillin you on February 26, 2014, 09:44:57 PM
Real Sports top story this week is kids with guns and how companies are marketing to the young people for competition shooting.

Just showed about a four or five year old girl shooting a Ar15 with her pops.

the best (or worst) part of that was the 12 year old with the hidden camera trying to buy lottery tickets and the whole 7-11 laughing at him.....then rolling into a gun show and five minutes later walking out with a shotgun
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: ice grillin you on March 14, 2014, 10:44:19 AM
this will put an end to school shootings.....

http://www.idahostatesman.com/2014/03/12/3076771/otter-signs-campus-guns-bill-into.html
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: Rome on March 14, 2014, 10:51:24 AM
Some kid got suspended for wearing an NRA shirt and the gun nuts are all going apeshtein over it.

Uh, really??    If it was a pot leaf or I heart Obama they'd demand expulsion.
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: ice grillin you on March 14, 2014, 10:57:19 AM
he shouldnt have gotten suspended but totally agree with your second part....yeah gimme a break with the faux outrage...i feel sooooooo bad for gun owners in this country who can essentially buy as many and any kind of guns they want without a background check
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: Rome on March 14, 2014, 11:05:16 AM
I disagree with the suspension but the little attentionwhore got what he was after and the hypocrisy of those assclowns pisses me off.
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: ice grillin you on March 14, 2014, 11:21:47 AM
kid probably is less than five years away from accidentily shooting himself in the face anyway
Title: Re: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: Seabiscuit36 on March 14, 2014, 11:23:22 AM
he shouldnt have gotten suspended but totally agree with your second part....yeah gimme a break with the faux outrage...i feel sooooooo bad for gun owners in this country who can essentially buy as many and any kind of guns they want without a background check
Not in mrrlandistan
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: ice grillin you on March 14, 2014, 11:36:20 AM
go to a gun show in delware or pa and go WILD
Title: Re: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: Seabiscuit36 on March 14, 2014, 11:48:48 AM
I'd never set foot in one. 
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: Chameleon on March 14, 2014, 12:04:26 PM
Let's all hold hands and support a government that feeds us while systematically eliminating the upper-middle class that we have resented for X amount of years kumbayah. This is the subconsious refrain of the majority of people who vote for democrats.
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on March 14, 2014, 04:04:01 PM
Which state did this suspension happen in?
Title: Re: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: General_Failure on March 14, 2014, 04:13:17 PM
New York.

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2014/mar/12/nra-shirt-gets-ny-high-school-student-suspended/
Title: Re: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: Diomedes on March 14, 2014, 05:36:13 PM
the Washington Times is a terrible paper
Title: Re: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: Eagaholic on March 14, 2014, 10:00:16 PM
I just checked out a few of their links. You're right.
Title: Re: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: Eagaholic on April 23, 2014, 03:55:26 PM
Quote
Georgia Gov. Nathan Deal signed a new gun law Wednesday that greatly expands the number of public places where licensed owners are allowed to carry their weapons.
Bars, churches, schools, govt buildings all cool.
Title: Re: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: smeags on April 23, 2014, 04:15:41 PM
Quote
Georgia Gov. Nathan Deal signed a new gun law Wednesday that greatly expands the number of public places where licensed owners are allowed to carry their weapons.
Bars, churches, schools, govt buildings all cool.

i see zero issues with this. especially in regards to carrying in a bar.
Title: Re: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: ice grillin you on April 23, 2014, 09:03:20 PM
Quote
Georgia Gov. Nathan Deal signed a new gun law Wednesday that greatly expands the number of public places where licensed owners are allowed to carry their weapons.
Bars, churches, schools, govt buildings all cool.

i see zero issues with this. especially in regards to carrying in a bar.

i think you are being sarcastic but i never know with you....you could just be this crazy.....a bar full of gun toting drunken idiots...that will end well....
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on April 23, 2014, 09:09:41 PM
Well it could thin out the herd of idiots.

I will likely buy a handgun by the end of the year. But it ain't leaving the house or car. Assuming I do get one...
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: ice grillin you on April 23, 2014, 09:27:55 PM
no whats gonna happen are accidental shootings that are going to kill women and children and bartenders and the innocent cat in the bathroom stall taking a dump who gets got when a gun accidentily goes off in the bathrrom...this is all in addition to the normal drunken ok corral shootouts that will also happen
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on April 23, 2014, 09:44:09 PM
Yeah I wasn't serious.

Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: ice grillin you on April 23, 2014, 09:51:26 PM
well one thing is true....population control in georgia wouldnt be the worst thing to ever happen
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on April 23, 2014, 09:55:31 PM
That's true.

Houston could be thinned out a bit too.
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on April 24, 2014, 12:38:51 AM
http://www.khou.com/home/Homeowner-says-he-was-forced-to-open-fire-in-front-of-NW-Harris-County-home--256468631.html

"I don't regret. I have a right to defend..."

Defend what?! Jeez
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: ice grillin you on April 25, 2014, 07:53:57 PM
cnn is doing a segment right now on cell phones they might find from mh370 and if that could be the key to solve the mystery of what happened

so they are talking about recovering cell phones from a plane crash a month ago where they cant even locate the actual plane
Title: Re: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: Diomedes on April 25, 2014, 08:01:46 PM
It's not news, it's CNN.
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: ice grillin you on April 25, 2014, 08:04:46 PM
ooops I thought this was the random musings not random gun thread
Title: Re: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: General_Failure on April 25, 2014, 08:36:03 PM
IGY confirmed cell phone holster wearer.
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on April 25, 2014, 08:50:46 PM
Igy's rockin the Riggs and Murtagh lethal weapon 1987 cellphone
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: ice grillin you on April 25, 2014, 08:52:10 PM
truth: last time I had anything but a house phone was early 90's when I had a beeper
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on April 25, 2014, 08:54:01 PM
Get you an iPhone, pops...it's time.

I remember when I got a pager in 1995 ish...I thought I was the shtein
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: ice grillin you on April 25, 2014, 08:59:56 PM
put me on your framily plan
Title: Re: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: Diomedes on April 25, 2014, 09:11:11 PM
Beepers, lol.  Those things were dumb as shtein from the start.  Okay for surgeons and shtein, otherwise...ha ha ha.
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on April 25, 2014, 09:14:27 PM
I'm surprised Uncle Sam doesn't give you a cellphone...

Work pays for mine. I just went over my data usage too :(
Title: Re: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: General_Failure on April 25, 2014, 09:16:59 PM
You haven't heard about Obamaphones?
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: ice grillin you on April 25, 2014, 09:17:22 PM
i honestly don't think id even take one for free if offered....never once in my life have i wished i had one


Beepers, lol.  Those things were dumb as shtein from the start.  Okay for surgeons and shtein, otherwise...ha ha ha.

my beeper game was tight
Title: Re: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: General_Failure on April 25, 2014, 09:18:40 PM
I'm guessing you had a lime green one.
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: ice grillin you on April 25, 2014, 09:23:34 PM
this was when they only had black....motorola ftw
Title: Re: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: Diomedes on April 25, 2014, 09:29:43 PM
You haven't heard about Obamaphones?

They are a farging punchline on job sites.  farging dittohead lingo.  It's a signal they throw up to see who responds, so they know who the good guys are.  It's a "light" version of dropping the N word.  See who laughs, or engages, and that's your buddy.  The ones who don't..suspect.
Title: Re: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: ice grillin you on April 26, 2014, 01:26:45 PM
Quote
Georgia Gov. Nathan Deal signed a new gun law Wednesday that greatly expands the number of public places where licensed owners are allowed to carry their weapons.
Bars, churches, schools, govt buildings all cool.


http://wtvbam.com/news/articles/2014/apr/14/gun-left-in-restroom-at-bills-steak-house-stolen-friday-night/
Title: Re: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: phillymic2000 on April 26, 2014, 01:46:44 PM
Quote
Georgia Gov. Nathan Deal signed a new gun law Wednesday that greatly expands the number of public places where licensed owners are allowed to carry their weapons.
Bars, churches, schools, govt buildings all cool.


http://wtvbam.com/news/articles/2014/apr/14/gun-left-in-restroom-at-bills-steak-house-stolen-friday-night/

Ohhhhh nooooose! A gun stolen in Michigan has so many ties to the Georgia law!! Look at chitown dook,  some of the strongest anti gun laws around and people are shot up on a weekly basis because the criminals don't care about a law.
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: ice grillin you on April 26, 2014, 01:49:22 PM
mixing alcohol and guns is def the answer....and for good measure lets fill schools up with them as well
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: phillymic2000 on April 26, 2014, 01:52:30 PM
mixing alcohol and guns is def the answer....and for good measure lets fill schools up with them as well

You are going to have idiots, plain and simple. Do you really feel that having some trained people with guns in a school is a bad idea? Did you ever think the nut jobs go there because they know it is a soft target with no one armed?
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: Munson on April 26, 2014, 01:52:50 PM
Lol at holding up city gun laws as examples of gun laws not working. How is a city gun law supposed to work when you can drive outside the city limits and fins youraelf in an area where its not as restrictive to get a gun?
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: phillymic2000 on April 26, 2014, 01:56:15 PM
Lol at holding up city gun laws as examples of gun laws not working. How is a city gun law supposed to work when you can drive outside the city limits and fins youraelf in an area where its not as restrictive to get a gun?

It's pretty much the whole state in Illinois when it comes to conceal and carry. They finally lost in court and are now dragging their feet to implement it. Chicago is a joke, only the criminals disregard the law, so yeah I will throw the city gun law up. It's a sham, it protects the criminals.
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: Eagles_Legendz on April 26, 2014, 02:16:14 PM
Lol at holding up city gun laws as examples of gun laws not working. How is a city gun law supposed to work when you can drive outside the city limits and fins youraelf in an area where its not as restrictive to get a gun?

It's pretty much the whole state in Illinois when it comes to conceal and carry. They finally lost in court and are now dragging their feet to implement it. Chicago is a joke, only the criminals disregard the law, so yeah I will throw the city gun law up. It's a sham, it protects the criminals.

Or the gun who shot the dude in the movie theater in FL?  Or the kid who took his parents legally obtained guns in CT?  Or the guy in Minnesota who sits in his basement waiting for teen burglars so he can kill them?  Or all of the people with legally obtained guns who head to the Bundy Ranch to prevent the government from collecting duly enacted taxation?  Yeah, legally obtained firearms are never an issue.  Only the criminals are problems when it comes to guns.

I'd rather take my chance avoiding someone who "legally" is sitting next to me with a gun at a bar who gets drunk and gets in an argument about sports thanks.
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: ice grillin you on April 26, 2014, 02:18:06 PM
mixing alcohol and guns is def the answer....and for good measure lets fill schools up with them as well

You are going to have idiots, plain and simple. Do you really feel that having some trained people with guns in a school is a bad idea? Did you ever think the nut jobs go there because they know it is a soft target with no one armed?

if you want your school protected then sure hire off duty cops to guard it...but the georgia law allows any school "official" to conceal and carry....the point is there should be less guns not more....what is so hard to understand about this...and for god sakes guns in places that serve alcohol is the most ridiculous thing ive heard....I cant have 5-6 or beers and drive home without the threat of a dui but I can have 15 beers and some shots while a gun is on my hip....wtf?

just look around the world at developed nations gun deaths....the countries with the fewest guns and strictest gun laws have the fewest deaths from guns and lower crime rates....we are number one with a bullet (hi romey)....because for some reason this country is filled with farging neanderthal small dicked half wits who think more guns is better cause they are gonna save the world from criminals and black helicopters
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: Eagles_Legendz on April 26, 2014, 02:20:49 PM
That's the other thing - I'm not trying to outlaw guns, but using Chicago as an example like it proves a point is asinine.  There is considerable empirical evidence in western counties that fun control works.  But then again the right ignores empirical evidence routinely so why should this be different?
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: phillymic2000 on April 26, 2014, 02:47:36 PM
Some schools do hire armed guards, Columbine had them. Please cite your article that ranks us #1. I would like to see it, unlike some who just lash out and call people racists, ma, and other names when their clearly superior opinion is challenged, I try to keep an open mind and discuss things with people in a civil way.
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: phillymic2000 on April 26, 2014, 02:49:43 PM
That's the other thing - I'm not trying to outlaw guns, but using Chicago as an example like it proves a point is asinine.  There is considerable empirical evidence in western counties that fun control works.  But then again the right ignores empirical evidence routinely so why should this be different?

Really? They have really strong gun laws and still are in the top of gun violence in our country. Maybe they should make the punishment stronger instead of the enforcement.
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: ice grillin you on April 26, 2014, 02:55:34 PM
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/worldviews/wp/2012/12/14/chart-the-u-s-has-far-more-gun-related-killings-than-any-other-developed-country/
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: ice grillin you on April 26, 2014, 03:18:19 PM
is this saying if you cheat in school the teacher will shoot you?


http://www.mediaite.com/online/nra-debuts-intense-new-ad-it%E2%80%99s-us-against-the-world/#ooid=VveGhqbTr0NkhSZLZH_uq9XshTfK3Zau
Title: Re: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: Diomedes on April 26, 2014, 03:37:47 PM
Ohhhhh nooooose! A gun stolen in Michigan has so many ties to the Georgia law!! Look at chitown dook,  some of the strongest anti gun laws around and people are shot up on a weekly basis because the criminals don't care about a law. can get guns by stealing them, or buying them from gun runners who bring them in from other states with softer laws.
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: Munson on April 26, 2014, 06:02:11 PM
Even if it is "the entire state of illinois"...Chicago is less than hour away in either direction from two other states.

You can't have city or state gun laws be effective when it's easy to acquire guns right next door.
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: ice grillin you on April 26, 2014, 07:01:56 PM
alcohol and guns dont mix.....like two dicks and no bitch

http://www.nbcphiladelphia.com/news/local/Fatal-Shooting-at-Wedding-Accident-Attorney-256840301.html

Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: ice grillin you on April 26, 2014, 07:48:42 PM
we need as many guns as possible in as many hands of as many people as we can and we need to let those people bring their guns anywhere they want.....that will fix everything

http://hamptonroads.com/2014/04/bullet-goes-through-wall-hits-newport-news-woman
Title: Re: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: General_Failure on April 26, 2014, 08:21:47 PM
we need as many guns as possible in as many hands of as many people as we can and we need to let those people bring their guns anywhere they want.....that will fix everything

You say that sarcastically, but it would weed out a lot of people.
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: ice grillin you on April 26, 2014, 08:29:48 PM
we already are doing that that...the problem is its usually the wrong person
Title: Re: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: General_Failure on April 26, 2014, 08:40:11 PM
The wrong person is me. You motherfargers are all fair game.
Title: Re: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: Seabiscuit36 on April 28, 2014, 07:42:13 AM
then we need to have lessons for these criminals.  Marlo had a nice setup
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on April 28, 2014, 09:06:37 PM
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/montana-man-charged-with-shooting-teen-in-his-garage/
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: ice grillin you on April 29, 2014, 11:35:26 AM
http://www.unionleader.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20140429/NEWS03/140428999&source=RSS

Quote
Police say drunk Nashua man shot himself in leg

NASHUA — Police say an intoxicated man shot himself in the leg early Saturday morning while inside his Oak Hill Lane apartment.

Police were called at 2:55 a.m. to St. James Place for a report of a disorderly group. When they arrived, they found Peter Powers, 23, of 4 Oak Hill Lane, suffering from a self-inflicted gunshot wound to the leg. He was taken to a hospital where he was treated and later released.

Detectives learned Powers was intoxicated and in possession of a firearm when he accidentally shot himself in the leg inside his apartment. Police said another man was inside the apartment at the time of the accidental shooting. He was not injured.

Powers was arrested and charged with reckless conduct, a class B felony punishable by up to seven years in prison.
Title: Re: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: Seabiscuit36 on April 29, 2014, 11:59:11 AM
http://nashua.patch.com/groups/police-and-fire/p/drunk-disorderly-at-hotel-bad-behavior-persists-in-custody
Note the date.  Guy doesn't have a legal weapon I'd say.  Too bad he missed his artery. 
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: ice grillin you on April 29, 2014, 12:05:46 PM
i cant find the gun part of that story....what am i not seeing
Title: Re: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: Sgt PSN on April 29, 2014, 12:36:06 PM
The date.

Separate story. Same dude.
Title: Re: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: Seabiscuit36 on April 29, 2014, 01:07:26 PM
i cant find the gun part of that story....what am i not seeing
This Dude
(http://o.aolcdn.com/dims-shared/dims3/PATCH/format/jpg/quality/82/resize/230x295/http://hss-prod.hss.aol.com/hss/storage/patch/91c2ceec9038a47a896f8a8aabb15293)
Rocking County Orange
because of a Violent outburst in public in 2012
Current year 2014
Dude has a gun
shoot's self in leg
Because...The Internet
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on May 06, 2014, 09:36:40 PM
http://abcnews.go.com/US/gun-advocates-spook-fast-food-workers-hiding-freezer/story?id=23604924
Title: Re: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: General_Failure on May 06, 2014, 10:20:57 PM
Quote
"There are a lot of people in that area who completely disagree with gun rights," he said. "They have been doing this to us for months now - call the police with false reports of us waving around guns, scaring people."

We've been fighting the War on Terror in the wrong barren shteinhole.

Gee guys, who'd have thought fast food workers would get worked up about people carrying guns in their store?
Title: Re: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: Diomedes on May 07, 2014, 06:18:09 AM
Maybe the kid working the deep fryer should strap an AR to his back for work everyday, then he wouldn't be so scared when several dudes with guns walk into the store.
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on May 07, 2014, 03:57:55 PM
http://www.khou.com/news/texas-news/93-year-old-woman-shot-killed-by-Hearne-police-officer-258285641.html

http://www.khou.com/news/crime/CPS-takes-custody-of-children-as-detectives-investigate-parents-fatal-shooting--258312681.html
Title: Re: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: General_Failure on May 07, 2014, 04:21:59 PM
What luck, the gun that 93 year old lady had matched up with the weapon used in 30 unsolved murders!
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: ice grillin you on May 12, 2014, 07:53:23 AM
teach kids about guns at an early age and respect gun culture!

http://www.gvnews.com/news/local/unsecured-guns-found-in-house-where-toddler-shot/article_1c5facb8-d965-11e3-bba4-001a4bcf887a.html
Title: Re: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: Seabiscuit36 on May 12, 2014, 09:55:28 AM
Using that family as an example of teaching your kids how to properly use firearms belittles the point.  IF you have a weapon, it should be secured, if you have children, WTF are you doing putting .32cal's in the kitchen cupboard. 

First thing I did once we had my son was buy a steel safe to secure everything I had previously in a hunting cabinet. 
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: ice grillin you on May 15, 2014, 08:35:07 AM
nothing like this would ever happen in a bar or school

http://www.lohud.com/story/news/crime/2014/05/14/cops-patterson-man-fires-pistol-neighbors-home/9083505/
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on May 15, 2014, 09:37:09 PM
http://abcnews.go.com/US/nra-lures-smartphone-generation-freestyle-web-shows/story?id=23735322
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on May 15, 2014, 09:55:44 PM
http://gawker.com/this-is-why-you-dont-test-out-bulletproof-vests-1577142763?rev=1400198516&utm_campaign=socialflow_gawker_twitter&utm_source=gawker_twitter&utm_medium=socialflow
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: MDS on May 15, 2014, 09:57:21 PM
another mensa member gone too soon
Title: Re: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: General_Failure on May 15, 2014, 09:58:55 PM
Incoming lawsuit against the vest manufacturer.
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on May 15, 2014, 10:07:53 PM
Sadly you're probably right
Title: Re: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: Diomedes on May 16, 2014, 06:45:33 AM
It worked for Johnny Knoxville
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: ice grillin you on May 18, 2014, 10:35:49 AM
congrats nerds.....youve won

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/05/18/fashion/the-united-states-of-metrics.html?_r=1
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on May 18, 2014, 01:49:56 PM
http://gawker.com/man-accidentally-shoots-himself-in-the-leg-at-a-phoenix-1578147203?utm_campaign=socialflow_gawker_twitter&utm_source=gawker_twitter&utm_medium=socialflow

WalMart
Arizona
GUNS
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: ice grillin you on May 18, 2014, 02:11:21 PM
he wouldn't have done that if he was drunk at a bar
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: ice grillin you on May 19, 2014, 12:23:30 AM
sober and at home...how about drunk and at a bar

http://www.roanoke.com/news/local/roanoke/police-say-accidental-rifle-shot-killed-man/article_41a282fc-de42-11e3-8f32-0017a43b2370.html
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: MDS on May 19, 2014, 12:48:24 AM
i say make guns free and allow them everywhere

let the neanderthals kill each other off
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on May 19, 2014, 08:22:25 PM
http://6abc.com/food/chipotle-dont-bring-guns-in-our-stores/68408/

Chipotle aka Chipotle Grill aka Sarge's fave says no to guns
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on May 24, 2014, 06:51:34 PM
HOUSTON – An investigation is under way after a 10-year-old child allegedly grabbed a rifle and shot a 4-year-old child in the leg Saturday, said Lt. David Escobar with the Harris County Precinct 4 Constable's Office.

It happened at about 11 a.m. inside a house located in the 1400 block of Danby Heath Lane in Spring.

Investigators said a woman was watching a group of kids at the home when it happened.

The shooting is believed to be accidental, but the investigation is ongoing.

The 4-year-old was transported to Texas Children's Hospital with serious, but non-life threatening injuries.

Stay with KHOU 11 News for the latest news and updates.
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: ice grillin you on May 27, 2014, 09:59:19 AM
FREEDOM!!
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on May 28, 2014, 06:54:11 PM
http://gawker.com/iceholes-with-guns-are-shocked-that-chilis-wont-serve-t-1582023603?utm_campaign=socialflow_gawker_twitter&utm_source=gawker_twitter&utm_medium=socialflow

It's filtered so you have to change the icehole in the link

These guys...TEXAS GUNS YEAH!
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on June 06, 2014, 08:03:19 PM
http://gawker.com/video-shows-cops-shootout-with-sovereign-citizen-at-g-1587329275
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: ice grillin you on June 06, 2014, 10:02:05 PM
nm
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: ice grillin you on June 07, 2014, 11:43:52 AM
nm
Title: Re: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: Seabiscuit36 on June 10, 2014, 01:53:26 PM
http://baltimore.cbslocal.com/2014/06/09/dnr-police-pasadena-kayaker-lied-he-actually-shot-himself-in-suicide-attempt/
Quote
PASADENA, Md. (WJZ)—It was all a lie. That’s what police with the Department of Natural Resources say about an incident in which a kayaker says he was shot by someone at a party on shore.

Rochelle Ritchie explains this is just the beginning of the bizarre story.

The kayaker remains in the hospital after he was found shot again when police tried to execute a search warrant.
Don’t believe the hype. That’s what DNR Police say about a kayaker who claimed he was shot while stargazing in Bodkin Creek on April 12.

“We’re leaning more toward that it was a self-inflicted gunshot wound on that day,” said Sgt. Brian Albert, DNR.

Officers say 56-year-old David Seafolk-Kopp, of Reston, Va., told officers someone from a party on shore shot him while he was kayaking. He said he drifted for hours before finding his way back to the dock of the home he was visiting.

Anne Arundel County Police, alongside DNR officers, searched above and below the water looking for any evidence that would lead them to the triggerman.

Well, it turns out the victim was also the shooter.

“Just as any gunshot wound, it’s standard that they take gunpowder residue on his hands. They did a swab of his hands, and that takes some time to come back. We did get back a positive result from his hands,” Albert said.

The story turns more bizarre. DNR officials say when officers showed up to Seafolk-Kopp’s house to initiate a search warrant, he opened the door. It was evident that he had shot himself again–this time in the face and torso.

There is no word yet on the exact charges Seafolk-Kopp will face. Making a false report to police is certainly on the list.

“We’ll be working with Anne Arundel County State’s Attorney to determine if any charges are appropriate or not,” Albert said.

Seafolk-Kopp is in the hospital in critical condition.

Police say the man owns several guns that were confiscated.
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: ice grillin you on June 12, 2014, 09:22:52 AM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Bp5G9DiCUAAeu7j.jpg)
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on June 12, 2014, 02:41:15 PM
Dad facing charges after toddler accidentally shoots self in Humble-area home

http://www.khou.com/home/Deputies-Toddler-shoots-self-in-foot-after-finding-gun-in-Humble-area-home-262848741.html

(Sent from KHOU 11)
Title: Re: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: Seabiscuit36 on June 12, 2014, 03:12:23 PM
didn't realize KHOU 11 had their own OS
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: Chameleon on June 12, 2014, 03:20:49 PM
Dad facing charges after toddler accidentally shoots self in Humble-area home

http://www.khou.com/home/Deputies-Toddler-shoots-self-in-foot-after-finding-gun-in-Humble-area-home-262848741.html

(Sent from KHOU 11)

Dad loses child(life is ruined). Government is mad because it loses future tax revenue so it intends to in-prisons father. farg the government + every idiot holding a pitch fork. Your kids aren't yours. They are the governments. Message being constantly portrayed is that the only person you can trust with a gun is someone sucking on government's tit. Seems pretty self serving, no?
Title: Re: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: General_Failure on June 12, 2014, 03:23:27 PM
The Federal tit, at least. No one really trusts cops with guns anymore.
Title: Re: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: Diomedes on June 12, 2014, 03:35:40 PM
blah blah

When your kid dies on the bedroom floor of his friend's house because Dad left the guns out, you'll sing a different song.  Government has a legit interest in making gun owners responsible.
Title: Re: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: Chameleon on June 12, 2014, 03:40:35 PM
blah blah

When your kid dies on the bedroom floor of his friend's house because Dad left the guns out, you'll sing a different song.  Government has a legit interest in making gun owners responsible.

*The quote function seems to not be working.
Title: Re: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: Diomedes on June 12, 2014, 04:16:33 PM
Huh, I swear I pressed "quote."

Is the bullshtein filter on, GF?
Title: Re: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: Seabiscuit36 on June 12, 2014, 04:37:02 PM
blah blah

When your kid dies on the bedroom floor of his friend's house because Dad left the guns out, you'll sing a different song.  Government has a legit interest in making gun owners responsible.
Not gun related, but ties in to what you're saying. 

I had a former coworker get 2 1/2 years in jail for killing her daughter and severely disabling her daughters boyfriend in a single vehicle wreck.  She was drunk, and was texting when she lost control.      http://www.newarkpostonline.com/regional/article_f5a411b2-31c1-5f1b-9117-ae3158505cae.html

Thoughts on that sentence?  I thought it was harsh, better than what the prosecuter was pursuing 6 years, but at what point is a sentence useless. 
Title: Re: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: General_Failure on June 12, 2014, 06:29:37 PM
Huh, I swear I pressed "quote."

Is the bullshtein filter on, GF?

If we had one there'd be no posts at all.
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on June 12, 2014, 07:38:59 PM
Except for yeti's. He'd post a video once and week and some mds hate and roll out
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on June 13, 2014, 10:13:08 PM
http://abc13.com/news/man-unloading-gun-while-driving-shoots-self-in-leg/112907/

Too bad he didn't hit himself in the balls
Title: Re: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: Diomedes on June 13, 2014, 10:19:03 PM
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Deputies are not expected to file any charges.

And why the farg not?  How is this behavior not illegal?  Jesus farging christ, this is exactly the kind of guy the guns rights people should be distancing themselves from, not supporting.   Dude should lose that gun and any others, at least until he completes some courses or some shtein.  Christ.
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on June 13, 2014, 10:32:53 PM
Well Dio you bring up a good point. Except this is Texas and they see it as shtein happens especially since he was in his own vehicle. And there won't be any pressure to charge him because of the gun leniency here.

I'd charge him with unlawful discharge of a firearm.
Title: Re: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: Diomedes on June 13, 2014, 10:53:33 PM
Reckless driving and endangering the lives of minors come to mind as well.
Title: Re: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: General_Failure on June 13, 2014, 10:54:50 PM
It would be great if he lost his drivers license but not the guns.
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on June 13, 2014, 11:18:44 PM
Oh so then he can car jack someone for a ride!
Title: Re: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: General_Failure on June 13, 2014, 11:23:28 PM
Or take his riding mower out on the highways.
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on June 13, 2014, 11:30:12 PM
Not entirely out of the question around here.
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: ice grillin you on June 14, 2014, 08:25:03 AM
the funny thing is the right would point to that knucklehead as one of the good guys with a gun who stops bad guys with guns
Title: Re: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: Diomedes on June 14, 2014, 08:32:14 AM
In all seriousness...how can you just let this guy off?  How can anyone take the pro-gun set seriously when they are okay with this?  Why should we allow people to behave like this without punishment. 

Why should someone who does this be allowed to own guns?
Title: Re: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: Sgt PSN on June 14, 2014, 10:06:28 AM
Texting while driving = illegal.

Playing with a gun while driving = 2nd amendment right.
Title: Re: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: Seabiscuit36 on June 16, 2014, 07:54:24 AM
In Maryland, you get locked up for that in a heartbeat.  When you go to the shooting range, they want ammo and the gun in separate compartments. 
Title: Re: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: Diomedes on June 16, 2014, 05:01:35 PM
I thought that law was federal for a long time.  It just made sense that you put the clips in the trunk anyway.   I shoot so infrequently that I haven't bothered to look it up, but I don't even know if I'm breaking the law by having the (not loaded) weapon in the cabin and loaded clips in the trunk.  That is, should the clips be empty, ammo in boxes? 

Anyway, yeah.  I'm accustomed to much smarter standards of behavior than they are Texas.
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: Tomahawk on June 16, 2014, 10:20:54 PM
http://www.pjstar.com/article/20140615/NEWS/140619400

I've been told I went to high school with the shooter, but I don't remember him at all. The girl he shot, his ex, lived a block away from me and I talked to her all the time. Fubar
Title: Re: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: Sgt PSN on June 17, 2014, 02:52:22 AM
Good thing you only talked to her and weren't dating, otherwise you'd be toe tagged. 
Title: Re: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: Diomedes on June 17, 2014, 05:40:46 PM
If the patrons in the bar had been allowed to carry loaded concealed weapons, this would have ended much better.
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on June 19, 2014, 12:47:02 PM
http://gawker.com/drunk-felons-stray-bullet-kills-father-bringing-home-hi-1593209209?rev=1403194631&utm_campaign=socialflow_gawker_twitter&utm_source=gawker_twitter&utm_medium=socialflow
Title: Re: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: Diomedes on June 19, 2014, 02:44:54 PM
Why wasn't he wearing body armor?  I mean come on, you're just asking for it in America if you think the bad guys aren't going to shoot you down at any moment.  Vest and pistol at all times or you're not a real American.

Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on June 25, 2014, 07:03:00 PM
http://abcnews.go.com/US/open-carry-texas-face-approach-gun-debate/story?id=24303400
Title: Re: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: Diomedes on June 25, 2014, 09:29:43 PM
Anyone else creeped out by the dude nuzzling the stock of his rifle?
Title: Re: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: Seabiscuit36 on June 26, 2014, 09:00:35 AM
Fat farging slobs.  I hope he shoots his foot off. 
Title: Re: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: Diomedes on June 26, 2014, 08:44:10 PM
http://youtu.be/qKHeXC7L85s
Title: Re: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: Sgt PSN on June 27, 2014, 02:31:28 PM
Haha
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: ice grillin you on June 29, 2014, 09:02:52 AM
i dont know shtein about guns but i think the first step is to check whether its loaded or not....second amendment gun safety freedom

http://dev1.hastingsstargazette.com/event/article/id/29736/publisher_ID/8/
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: ice grillin you on June 29, 2014, 12:31:30 PM
lol responsible gun owners

http://bloomutoday.com/accidental-shooting-at-bloomsburg-gun-show-p2176-1.htm
Title: Re: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: Sgt PSN on June 29, 2014, 02:14:46 PM
That's like 10 minutes from me.  I was actually going to go there yesterday to grab some targets and .22 rounds but I got caught up doing other, more important stuff.  Lucky me.  I would hope that the guy is arrested for negligence but he'll probably get a commendation or something. 
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: Rome on June 29, 2014, 08:52:33 PM
http://www.philly.com/philly/blogs/entertainment/BET-awards-pre-show-party-violence-leaves-1-dead-5-others-injured-in-Los-Angeles.html

Please note the comments after the article.

Sickening.  How the farg does Philly.com allow that shtein?  Racist iceholes.
Title: Re: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: General_Failure on June 29, 2014, 09:28:42 PM
The more people comment, the more they have to come back and look at the ads again.
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: ice grillin you on July 06, 2014, 06:52:23 PM
gun fail for j

http://www.khou.com/news/national/265962771.html
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on July 06, 2014, 07:35:03 PM
Just another day in the wild west, buddy.
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: MDS on July 07, 2014, 12:21:53 AM
"safekeeping"

im sure thats exactly why there was a gun there
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on July 09, 2014, 07:43:26 PM
http://abc13.com/news/five-people-fatally-shot-in-north-harris-county;-two-wounded/172808/

Ho hum

Another day in Texas. Yeeeehaw
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on July 09, 2014, 10:03:12 PM
http://abcnews.go.com/US/fatalities-reported-texas-home-shooting/story?id=24496951

It gets worse. Reported as five kids shot and killed
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on July 09, 2014, 10:45:39 PM
Check that...four kids and two adults. And the cops intercepted him on his way to apparently kill more people at their jobs.

Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: MDS on July 09, 2014, 11:14:28 PM
guns are cool
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on July 09, 2014, 11:31:57 PM
He surrendered after four hours. Ended up in a cul de sac and nowhere to go. Cops surrounded him and wedged his car with two heavy swat trucks. He sat there with a gun to his head. He should've shot himself. farging prick.

Impromptu presser on local tv sounds like he was the father of all or some of the kids and in a custody dispute. The mother is out of state and the kids were staying with family.

Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: MDS on July 10, 2014, 12:45:44 AM
i mean i dont want to live in houston either, but not that badly
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on July 10, 2014, 11:55:28 AM
He wasn't the father but related to them...I think his wife was the sister of the mother of the family.

farging disgusting oaf.
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: ice grillin you on July 12, 2014, 12:23:14 AM
florida grand jury will not bring charges in florida against florida man who tried to shoot at a florida bird and instead seconded amended his florida neighbor to death cause you know its florida and guns

http://www.news-journalonline.com/article/20140710/NEWS/140719913/1040?Title=Grand-Jury-decides-against-manslaughter-indictment-in-fatal-holiday-shooting
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: ice grillin you on July 18, 2014, 09:11:16 PM
i carry a gun because negros are pillaging and raping....oh haha i shot myself

http://www.krcrtv.com/man-shoots-himself-in-hand-claims-assault/26908448


Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: ice grillin you on July 27, 2014, 10:13:03 AM
not even pregnant women are safe from the second amendment

http://www.wfla.com/story/26122379/pregnant-woman-injured-in-accidental-shooting
Title: Re: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: General_Failure on July 27, 2014, 01:20:44 PM
Call it an attempted abortion and the shooter will get the death penalty.
Title: Re: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: Diomedes on August 02, 2014, 10:13:03 AM
five blocks north of me

http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/maryland/crime/blog/bs-md-ci-waverly-woman-child-shot-20140801,0,2875294.story

Since only a good guy with a gun can stop a bad guy with a gun, it follows then that this child should have been armed?
Title: Re: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: Sgt PSN on August 02, 2014, 10:56:49 AM
not even pregnant women are safe from the second amendment

http://www.wfla.com/story/26122379/pregnant-woman-injured-in-accidental-shooting

Here's the irony with the gun debate:

Your liberal types, who are typically in favor of unobstructed freedoms when it comes to speech, press, assembly, civil rights, etc, are taking the exact opposite stance on guns. Tight regulations, harsh punishments for gun violations, or in more extreme cases, an outright ban.

Meanwhile,  your classic conservative is usually guilty of wanting to put limitations on various freedoms.... like complaining about flag burners not being tarred and feathered, or being unwelcoming to immigrants, hating women and gays, etc, etc.  But in the case of guns, they want complete absolute, unrestricted freedom without accountability.

With this story, nearly every "gun nut" in the country will say that no charges should be filed and that it was simply an unfortunate accident.  No need for personal accountability or responsibility with the idiot showing and mishandling a loaded weapon. But let some kid get busted with a joint and we should lock him up for breaking the (stupid) law.   

I think it's kind of funny, myself. Libs acting like conservatives and vice versa, and neither of them really have a clue that they're doing it.

Title: Re: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: Diomedes on August 02, 2014, 11:03:55 AM
I think I'm moving to the "ban guns" camp.

If you want to carry a blunderbuss, or whatever was current when the almighty founding fathers wrote the Constitution, fine.  Everything else should be banned.  Even in the wild wild west they figured out that you couldn't have humans carrying guns around, so you had to hand 'em over to get into town.

What we're doing here is madness.

The Constitution needs a re-write.  It's no longer relevant.
Title: Re: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: ice grillin you on August 02, 2014, 11:20:11 AM
not even pregnant women are safe from the second amendment

http://www.wfla.com/story/26122379/pregnant-woman-injured-in-accidental-shooting

Here's the irony with the gun debate:

Your liberal types, who are typically in favor of unobstructed freedoms when it comes to speech, press, assembly, civil rights, etc, are taking the exact opposite stance on guns. Tight regulations, harsh punishments for gun violations, or in more extreme cases, an outright ban.

Meanwhile,  your classic conservative is usually guilty of wanting to put limitations on various freedoms.... like complaining about flag burners not being tarred and feathered, or being unwelcoming to immigrants, hating women and gays, etc, etc.  But in the case of guns, they want complete absolute, unrestricted freedom without accountability.

With this story, nearly every "gun nut" in the country will say that no charges should be filed and that it was simply an unfortunate accident.  No need for personal accountability or responsibility with the idiot showing and mishandling a loaded weapon. But let some kid get busted with a joint and we should lock him up for breaking the (stupid) law.   

I think it's kind of funny, myself. Libs acting like conservatives and vice versa, and neither of them really have a clue that they're doing it.

lol at lumping in guns and speech as even remotely equivalent freedoms

dio said it....guns shouldnt be a right....the constitution has been rewritten many times and its time to rewrite guns out of it
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: MDS on August 02, 2014, 11:40:39 AM
guns are cool, its awesome when people die
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on August 02, 2014, 11:55:49 AM
Nothing will change until the gun lobby is muted. And that won't stop because it means less money in the hands of paid off politicians.

A sickening cycle of shtein.
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: ice grillin you on August 02, 2014, 08:57:27 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uag2G0J6iqw&feature=youtu.be
Title: Re: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: Sgt PSN on August 02, 2014, 11:24:07 PM
lol at lumping in guns and speech as even remotely equivalent freedoms

I'm not surprised this was the take away here.  Instead of thinking about liberal and conservative in their modern, political context, think of them in their literal, definitive context. 

The point wasn't to compare guns to speech (though I would say that every freedom carries equal weight and there isn't 1 that is more or less important than the rest), but rather to point out in the case of the 2nd amendment, both sides are doing the exact opposite of what they normally do. 

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dio said it....guns shouldnt be a right....the constitution has been rewritten many times and its time to rewrite guns out of it

Couldn't disagree any more.  I'm fine with the right to bear arms.  I'm also fine if states ever decide to follow the 2nd amendment in it's entirety:

"A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed."

1.  A well regulated Militia - Regulate the shtein out of it for all I care.  Require mental health screenings, require intense safety courses, require knowledge of the law and when it's acceptable and not acceptable to fire your weapon, require follow up training and testing, and require gun owners to have acceptable storage safes and/or gun locks. 

2.  being necessary to the security of a free State - Want to own a gun?  That's cool, but you better enlist with a state approved militia, law enforcement agency or Nat'l Guard unit. 

3.  the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed - Meet all the conditions of 1 and 2 and you can own a bazooka for all I care.  I'm fine with gun owners who are well trained and responsible.  But once you fall out of regs, perhaps by being stupid and leaving your gun under your pillow and your kid blows his head of, then you're out of the gun club for good and spending a long, long time jail.

The right is giving a very liberal interpretation of the 2nd, while the left says guns are bad and therefore must go away.  It gets funnier the more I think about it.   
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: ice grillin you on August 02, 2014, 11:28:42 PM
im not sure i could disagree more on any issue ever

GUNZ!!
Title: Re: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: Sgt PSN on August 02, 2014, 11:33:27 PM
You hate guns, but how boring would The Wire be if Omar carried a slingshot?   
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: ice grillin you on August 02, 2014, 11:38:09 PM
did he even need a gun after the farmer in the dell

ayoooooooo
Title: Re: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: Sgt PSN on August 02, 2014, 11:44:35 PM
Touche, but offing Wallace would have been far less dramatic if Bodie was packing blow darts. 
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: ice grillin you on August 02, 2014, 11:48:40 PM
I love the Wallace killing because it shows how much of a human bodie will end up being in s4....in s1 he wants to be so hard to move up and impress string....but poot who legit likes Wallace is the one who ultimately makes bodie sqeeze that shtein
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on August 03, 2014, 06:03:30 PM
Man dead after bizarre sequence of events leads to shooting in W. Houston

http://www.khou.com/story/news/crime/2014/08/03/man-dead-after-bizarre-sequence-of-events-leads-to-shooting-in-w-houston/13542577/

(Sent from KHOU 11)

Find the WTF part in this....I'll wait for your answers
Title: Re: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: Diomedes on August 03, 2014, 06:09:14 PM
hey, thanks neighbor.
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: ice grillin you on August 03, 2014, 06:14:42 PM
the husband "kept going".....presumably towards his wife in the car yet the neighbor feared for his life?
Title: Re: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: Diomedes on August 03, 2014, 08:43:02 PM
All you gotta do is be afraid now.
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on August 03, 2014, 09:19:32 PM
I like how the news people out that in their stories now too like it's the end all be all of justifications.

Title: Re: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: Eagaholic on August 03, 2014, 09:27:39 PM
They need to make a law where it's not ok to just shoot people.
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: hbionic on August 04, 2014, 12:05:25 AM
First word in that article explains it all: 'HOUSTON'
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on August 04, 2014, 08:57:28 AM
Pretty much!

I fear of my life I will start shooting people.
Title: Re: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: SunMo on August 04, 2014, 10:09:28 AM
did he even need a gun after the farmer in the dell

ayoooooooo

he ripped off a stashhouse just by leaning up against it in his pjs
Title: Re: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: Seabiscuit36 on August 05, 2014, 12:55:17 PM
http://6abc.com/241397/

guns

I'm just waiting for it to come out that it was some kid in there shooting up heroin, not a vicious badguy looking to rape someone. 
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on August 07, 2014, 11:48:53 PM
http://abc13.com/news/boy-8-shot-in-face-by-younger-child-in-texas-city/247963/

Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: Geowhizzer on August 16, 2014, 06:22:02 PM
Va. deputy shoots daughter sneaking back home (http://www.wtsp.com/story/news/nation/2014/08/14/virginia-deputy-shoots-daughter-mistaken-for-intruder/14086355/)
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: MDS on August 16, 2014, 07:09:37 PM
shoot first, ask questions later

america
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: Chameleon on August 16, 2014, 07:42:57 PM
Shoots his own daughter. Then crashed on the way to the hospital... Seems pretty obvious that the he was drunk on his way to work. Standard .... ::)
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: Chameleon on August 16, 2014, 08:18:40 PM
keep a pistol in your house if you want....make some exception for sport guns and the rest are illegal and should be punished hard...guns should not be allowed on any public property or allowed to be carried

i dont give a rats ass about it being in the constitution...everything in that document is always on the table for ammending


Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on August 17, 2014, 02:25:25 PM
http://www.khou.com/story/news/local/2014/08/17/birthday-party-turned-deadly-when-24-year-old-was-shot/14197333/

Just another day where someone walks down the street ripping off AR-15 rounds into houses
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on August 26, 2014, 10:27:31 PM
http://abc13.com/281953/

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Authorities say an Arizona shooting instructor has died after he was accidentally shot while showing a 9-year-old girl how to use an automatic Uzi.

Mohave County Sheriff's officials say 39-year-old Charles Vacca, of Lake Havasu City, died Monday after he was shot at the Last Stop shooting outdoor range in White Hills.

Sheriff's officials say Vacca was airlifted to the University Medical Center in Las Vegas.

According to investigators, Vacca was standing next to the girl when she pulled the trigger and the recoil sent the gun over her head.

Deputies say the girl was at the shooting range with her parents.
Map My News
Title: Re: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: Diomedes on August 26, 2014, 10:34:48 PM
Good riddance.

Seriously.  farg a guy who teaches a nine year old to use an automatic pistol.  I don't farging care if he's from Pheonix or Islamabad.
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on August 26, 2014, 10:55:26 PM
Pretty much

And farg the parents for allowing her to do it
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: Geowhizzer on August 26, 2014, 10:59:29 PM
Unfortunately it's going to be this young girl farged for the rest of her life.
Title: Re: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: Diomedes on August 26, 2014, 11:02:22 PM
Nah...she's 9.  She didn't kill her Dad.  She'll move on just fine.  I mean, except for how she's being raised.
Title: Re: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: Eagaholic on August 27, 2014, 12:49:45 AM
Instructor sounds like a Darwin nominee. Better than this one

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NO DARWIN AWARD: "No Bull, No Bullets!"
3 August 2014, Chicago | NOT a Darwin Award winner: the accidental shooting death of a man who failed to prove that his gun had no bullets, when he pointed the gun at his head and pulled the trigger. Moderators have ruled this recent Illinois shooting death "too common" and lacking the creativity of a true Darwin Award. Sorry, Mr. Zyzanski
Title: Re: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: Seabiscuit36 on August 27, 2014, 07:28:09 AM
Wow, Whenever I've taught someone how to shoot the first thing you do is ensure you only have one round in, because adults freak out and throw weapons.  Good Riddance dipshtein
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: Rome on August 27, 2014, 08:05:52 AM
If you're teaching 9 yr olds how to shoot Uzis the world is better off without you.

Title: Re: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: Seabiscuit36 on August 27, 2014, 09:31:26 AM
Agreed. 
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: ice grillin you on August 27, 2014, 01:42:46 PM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BwD97pjIIAAilSj.jpg)
Title: Re: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: Seabiscuit36 on August 27, 2014, 03:15:45 PM
Dumb chart.  Should be focused on the so called Assault Weapon as defined by each state.  Which is 21, same as handguns. 

Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: ice grillin you on August 27, 2014, 03:26:27 PM
yeah it is dumb for teenagers to be able to own shotguns
Title: Re: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: Seabiscuit36 on August 27, 2014, 03:32:16 PM
yeah, all of those normal teens who passed hunter safety courses should only use waterguns when hunting. 
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: smeags on August 27, 2014, 03:36:41 PM
I just ate a venicin roast that my 14yr nephew shot last seaaon in virginia.


mmmmmmm mmmmmmmmmm
Title: Re: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: SunMo on August 27, 2014, 03:50:39 PM
can't vote, can't drive, can't drink, can't join the army...but sure, here's a shotgun, i'm sure you can control your hormones and emotions to be totally responsible with it
Title: Re: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: rjs246 on August 27, 2014, 04:02:23 PM
can't vote, can't drive, can't drink, can't join the army...but sure, here's a shotgun, i'm sure you can control your hormones and emotions to be totally responsible with it

Are you calling me fat?

venicin roast

Also, what the farg is this? Yes I know what you were trying to spell but jesus christ.
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: smeags on August 27, 2014, 04:13:13 PM
im not having a good afternoon posting.  :boom
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on August 27, 2014, 07:23:54 PM
DON'T TREAD ON ME! GIMME MAH GUNZ
Title: Re: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: ice grillin you on August 27, 2014, 08:42:56 PM
yeah, all of those normal teens who passed hunter safety courses should only use waterguns when hunting.

thats what big buck hunter is for
Title: Re: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: Seabiscuit36 on August 28, 2014, 07:49:43 AM
farging city folk
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: smeags on August 28, 2014, 07:57:46 AM
DON'T TREAD ON ME! GIMME MAH GUNZ

OMG PEOPLE GO HUNTING  - RUN FOR THE HILLS
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: smeags on August 28, 2014, 08:04:45 AM
http://abc13.com/281953/

Quote
Authorities say an Arizona shooting instructor has died after he was accidentally shot while showing a 9-year-old girl how to use an automatic Uzi.

Mohave County Sheriff's officials say 39-year-old Charles Vacca, of Lake Havasu City, died Monday after he was shot at the Last Stop shooting outdoor range in White Hills.

Sheriff's officials say Vacca was airlifted to the University Medical Center in Las Vegas.

According to investigators, Vacca was standing next to the girl when she pulled the trigger and the recoil sent the gun over her head.

Deputies say the girl was at the shooting range with her parents.
Map My News


what a business model.
http://bulletsandburgers.com/ (http://bulletsandburgers.com/)
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on September 06, 2014, 05:18:47 AM
5-year-old boy shot with shotgun

http://www.khou.com/story/news/local/2014/09/05/5-year-old-boy-shot-with-shotgun/15157971/

(Sent from KHOU 11)
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: ice grillin you on September 12, 2014, 01:46:27 PM
heeeeeee's baaaaaack

http://www.clickorlando.com/news/george-zimmerman-threatened-to-shoot-man-in-road-rage-incident-florida-police-say/28030558


how did this piece of shtein get off for murderin that boy
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: smeags on September 12, 2014, 02:10:45 PM
cause he's 1/2 latino ??
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: AO1 on September 12, 2014, 03:13:59 PM
heeeeeee's baaaaaack

http://www.clickorlando.com/news/george-zimmerman-threatened-to-shoot-man-in-road-rage-incident-florida-police-say/28030558


how did this piece of shtein get off for murderin that boy

Where's the right at to defend him?
Title: Re: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: Eagaholic on September 12, 2014, 03:28:49 PM
how the farg is he even carrying a gun?
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: Rome on September 12, 2014, 03:30:58 PM
All charges were dismissed.  He's a ticking time bomb.  Hopefully he kills himself before he goes off on anyone else.
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: ice grillin you on September 13, 2014, 04:39:21 PM
defend your state j

http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2014/06/guns-target-open-carry-texas
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on September 13, 2014, 05:19:35 PM
I dislike those people

No defending that. They are all idiots. And most of them are unwashed funky ass rednecks who spend more on their assault rifles than they do on rent.

and lololol at the dope with a banana in his holster.
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on October 07, 2014, 10:56:18 PM
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/oregon-man-openly-carrying-new-gun-robbed-by-man-with-gun/
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: Rome on October 08, 2014, 05:02:44 AM
i like your gun.  give it to me.

bwahaha!
Title: Re: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: Sgt PSN on October 10, 2014, 11:57:13 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EBpuLlw4Xjs
Title: Re: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: Eagaholic on October 10, 2014, 12:21:18 PM
Ha, that was excellent
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: ice grillin you on October 10, 2014, 01:11:45 PM
the kid at sandy hook was aspergers as farg lol
Title: Re: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: Diomedes on October 10, 2014, 04:15:23 PM
You're a great little saver, keep going.
Title: Re: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: Diomedes on October 13, 2014, 10:42:38 PM
madness

http://www.cnn.com/2014/10/08/us/indiana-wedding-couple-murder-suicide/
Title: Re: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: General_Failure on October 13, 2014, 10:50:28 PM
What we really need are strict Shakespeare control laws. Nobody should be allowed to read it without at least knowing what wherefore means.
Title: Re: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on October 13, 2014, 11:09:30 PM
madness

http://www.cnn.com/2014/10/08/us/indiana-wedding-couple-murder-suicide/

**camera cuts to David Caruso**

"Just married? Well then..... I'd say we have a strong case of death doing them apart."

**whips off sunglasses and music begins**

Title: Re: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: Munson on October 13, 2014, 11:13:39 PM
madness

http://www.cnn.com/2014/10/08/us/indiana-wedding-couple-murder-suicide/

**camera cuts to David Caruso**

"Just married? Well then..... I'd say we have a strong case of death doing them apart."

**whips off sunglasses and music begins**

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6YMPAH67f4o
Title: Re: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on October 13, 2014, 11:21:15 PM
madness

http://www.cnn.com/2014/10/08/us/indiana-wedding-couple-murder-suicide/

**camera cuts to David Caruso**

"Just married? Well then..... I'd say we have a strong case of death doing them apart."

**whips off sunglasses and music begins**

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6YMPAH67f4o

Lol perfect
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on October 19, 2014, 12:26:11 PM
http://abc13.com/news/losers-of-beer-pong-game-open-fire/356789/

Gunz. Texas. Beer pong!
Title: Re: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: shorebird on October 20, 2014, 09:37:03 PM
Really?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8SH4RvmS2WA
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on October 23, 2014, 03:31:55 PM
http://www.buzzfeed.com/ryanhatesthis/nebraska-high-school-guns-in-yearbooks?bftw&utm_term=4ldqpfp#4ldqpfp
Title: Re: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: General_Failure on October 23, 2014, 04:13:19 PM
I have no problem with that. What the hell else is there for them to do in Nebraska?
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on October 23, 2014, 05:02:51 PM
Watch tornadoes, make food from corn, make moonshine, hate on Obama and watch the Huskers
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on October 28, 2014, 10:31:59 PM
http://deadspin.com/jose-canseco-accidentally-shoots-off-his-middle-finger-1652076502?utm_campaign=socialflow_deadspin_twitter&utm_source=deadspin_twitter&utm_medium=socialflow
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on November 04, 2014, 05:59:08 PM
ttp://6abc.com/news/police-id-2-killed-in-murder-suicide-at-chester-county-ymca/379169/

Gunz!!

Shot his girlfriend and then offed himself

farging scumbag.
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: MDS on November 20, 2014, 12:52:32 AM
hey cool another school shooting

this time at, all jokes aside, florida state's library

every time one of these things happens i feel like shore and his republican ilk jerk off
Title: Re: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: SunMo on November 20, 2014, 12:40:49 PM
at least we know the football players were safe
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on November 22, 2014, 01:40:26 PM
http://www.nbcphiladelphia.com/news/national-international/Tallahassee-sheriffs-deputy-gunman-killed-283586571.html?_osource=SocialFlowTwt_PHBrand

Gunzzzz
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on November 23, 2014, 07:12:01 PM
http://www.cnn.com/2014/11/23/us/ferguson-woman-kills-herself/index.html

This is just...I'm sorry...I laughed
Title: Re: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: Seabiscuit36 on November 24, 2014, 07:46:29 AM
http://www.cnn.com/2014/11/23/us/ferguson-woman-kills-herself/index.html

This is just...I'm sorry...I laughed
See, thats perfect population control.  Guns for everyone!
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: AO1 on November 24, 2014, 09:10:28 AM
Quote
He said the accident caused the gun to go off and she was struck by a bullet in the head, the sources said

It's like that scene in Pulp Fiction
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: ice grillin you on November 25, 2014, 10:11:32 AM
http://mic.com/articles/105058/one-video-shows-exactly-what-was-wrong-with-cnn-s-ferguson-coverage?utm_source=policymicTWTR&utm_medium=main&utm_campaign=social
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: ice grillin you on November 25, 2014, 10:13:53 AM
http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_slatest/2014/11/25/cnn_ferguson_cnn_reporters_in_ferguson_provide_wall_to_wall_coverage_of.html?wpsrc=sh_all_dt_tw_ru
Title: Re: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: Seabiscuit36 on November 25, 2014, 12:45:22 PM
CNN's coverage last night was just awful.  I wanted them all to be pelted with rocks. 
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: ice grillin you on November 25, 2014, 12:58:45 PM
were you actually watching some of it

donny lemon is the all time worst
Title: Re: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: Seabiscuit36 on November 25, 2014, 01:22:15 PM
were you actually watching some of it

donny lemon is the all time worst
Turned it on i think around 10, wife and i were laughing hysterically at how they turned it into how they cover weather events.  Don Lemon really is the worst, he's a robot. 
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: ice grillin you on November 25, 2014, 01:24:44 PM
lol...that weather analogy is perfect
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on November 25, 2014, 02:00:42 PM
CNN used to be good...they suck now. Like TMZ bad now.

I cracked up when Lemon, with gas mask perched on his head, says "obviously there's a smell of marijuana out here"
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: ice grillin you on November 25, 2014, 02:03:33 PM
lemons rape interview last week was magic
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on November 25, 2014, 02:13:49 PM
all I could think of were the lyrics "it don't worry just don't bite it" when he was doing the interview
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: ice grillin you on November 25, 2014, 08:10:42 PM
39th and 40th people shot this month in hunting accidents

gunzzzz

http://wnep.com/2014/11/25/breaking-two-hunters-shot-in-schuylkill-county/
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on November 25, 2014, 08:37:11 PM
Non-American people are always amazed at the gun loving that goes on here

Three people in Peru asked me if it was true all Americans loved guns so much. And then asked why.

I don't have a good answer as to why...
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: ice grillin you on November 25, 2014, 08:38:37 PM
2nd amendment is why

cause the guys that thought slavery was a good idea are perfect
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: Eagles_Legendz on November 25, 2014, 08:43:56 PM
NRA is probably the most effective lobbying force in this country unfortunately.  They are amazing at what they do.
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on November 25, 2014, 08:46:18 PM
Unfortunately you're right about the NRA. I loathe that organization and the lobbyists.

I wonder if the 1930s-1970s had as much gun love as now?
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on November 25, 2014, 09:23:05 PM
4-year-old fatally shot at Katy-area home

http://www.khou.com/story/news/local/2014/11/25/child-shot-in-northwest-harris-county/70093152/

(Sent from KHOU 11)

Six year old aces a four year old.
Title: Re: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: SunMo on November 26, 2014, 08:27:45 AM
Daily Show had a great segment a few weeks ago about a Bill that both repubs and democrats were on board with but the NRA was trying to kill it for some stupid reason.  i can't remember what it was or when, but it was good.
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: Munson on November 26, 2014, 05:26:53 PM
(http://inthesetimes.com/images/made/images/cartoons/uploads/bo141126_850_616_s.png)
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on November 28, 2014, 08:39:52 PM
http://www.cnn.com/2014/11/28/us/black-friday-gun-sales/index.html

Gunzzzz
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on December 01, 2014, 01:49:24 PM
http://www.khou.com/story/news/local/2014/11/30/young-man-shot-in-nw-houston-apartment/19700167/?hootPostID=f47885f004d057847a7b628314b585ee

more gunzzzzzzzz
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on December 01, 2014, 09:48:51 PM
http://www.khou.com/story/news/2014/12/01/apd-atx-shooter-part-of-ultra-conservative-christian-movement/19762483/?hootPostID=8f681a3b8c7b6623cd99f1084c45baff

No shtein?
Title: Re: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: Diomedes on December 01, 2014, 10:36:57 PM
If that cop actually took him out with one shot, while restraining horses, then he's one hell of a shot.
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on December 01, 2014, 10:54:27 PM
Texas
Horses
Guns

Of course he did it.
Title: Re: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: Seabiscuit36 on December 02, 2014, 08:55:55 AM
Totally possible, if it was Walker
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on December 06, 2014, 01:04:10 PM
http://www.phillymag.com/news/2014/12/05/kathleen-kane-pennsylvania-gun-law-nra/

Good for the AG

And once again we have the NRA acting like iceholes. Disgusting pricks
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: ice grillin you on December 06, 2014, 01:56:01 PM
dont farg with pennsyltuckys freedoms
Title: Re: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: shorebird on December 08, 2014, 07:29:50 PM
hey cool another school shooting

this time at, all jokes aside, florida state's library

every time one of these things happens i feel like shore and his republican ilk jerk off

Yeah...you're an idiot. Some crazy shoots up a school and all you can think of is republicans jerking off.
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: MDS on December 08, 2014, 11:59:55 PM
you didnt deny it
Title: Re: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: shorebird on December 10, 2014, 04:19:11 PM
So what? The fact that your polluted mind works in that way says it all.
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: MDS on December 10, 2014, 05:53:46 PM
still not denying
Title: Re: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: shorebird on December 10, 2014, 08:26:08 PM
 ::)
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on December 11, 2014, 02:48:28 PM
http://fortressamerica.gawker.com/open-carry-gun-activist-arrested-for-killing-husband-an-1669911232?utm_campaign=socialflow_gawker_twitter&utm_source=gawker_twitter&utm_medium=socialflow

GunZZZZZZZZZZ
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on December 17, 2014, 01:29:52 PM
http://www.khou.com/story/news/crime/2014/12/17/shots-fired-outside-waco-tv-station/20536227/?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter

Get the weather wrong? Get got.
Title: Re: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: Eagaholic on December 18, 2014, 09:38:54 AM
Shoot the Newscaster Day would actually make a nice holiday each year.
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: ice grillin you on December 27, 2014, 01:44:08 AM
25th person this month died today at the hand of hunters

GUNZZZZZZ!!
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on December 27, 2014, 06:32:18 PM
http://www.khou.com/story/news/2014/12/27/accidental-shooting-at-bass-pro-shop-injuries-1/20945369/
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on December 30, 2014, 07:06:32 PM
http://www.bnowire.com/2014/12/30/idaho-woman-shot-and-killed-by-2-year-old-son/?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter&utm_campaign=idaho-woman-shot-and-killed-by-2-year-old-son

Gunz! Aced by a toddler
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: Rome on December 30, 2014, 07:14:29 PM
The victim was shopping with family members at the time of the shooting but her name is being withheld pending notification of family members.  Also - the shooting by a two year old appeared to be an accident, but the cops were still processing the scene to determine if, what, someone hired the toddler to pop a cap in her ass?

Did Todd write that article?
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: MDS on December 31, 2014, 01:37:32 AM
no im too busy getting harassed by dykes from south philly
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: ice grillin you on January 01, 2015, 09:00:51 AM
http://www.bnowire.com/2014/12/30/idaho-woman-shot-and-killed-by-2-year-old-son/?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter&utm_campaign=idaho-woman-shot-and-killed-by-2-year-old-son

I was reading an article on this shooting yesterday where the father was being interviewed and he said that guns cant be blamed it was just a "perfect storm" that caused his daughters death

yeah the "perfect storm" was putting a purse with a gun in it two inches away from a curious 2 year old....these gun people make me sick....the father was defending guns more than he was mourning his daughter
Title: Re: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: Diomedes on January 01, 2015, 09:05:18 AM
Dude. 

Americans love guns more than children. 

It is known.

What do you care about racist whites and their waterhead miracle kids in kkkland anyway?
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: ice grillin you on January 01, 2015, 09:19:40 AM
well i will say i care less about this one since the mother is the one that got killed and not the two year old
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: MDS on January 01, 2015, 10:09:46 AM
she left her loaded, ready to fire deadly fire arm within reach of a 2 year old....who obviously doesnt know anything because he's 2

she asked for it, and got it. cya.
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on January 01, 2015, 06:06:44 PM
But wasn't it in a special pouch?

A SPECIAL POUCH MAN!
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on January 01, 2015, 06:55:37 PM
Man dies after being hit by stray bullet while watching fireworks

http://www.khou.com/story/news/crime/2015/01/01/man-dies-after-being-hit-by-stray-bullet-in-the-head/21144655/

(Sent from KHOU 11)

What a farged up way to go
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: ice grillin you on January 01, 2015, 06:56:44 PM
But wasn't it in a special pouch?

A SPECIAL POUCH MAN!

yeah it had a zipper
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on January 01, 2015, 06:59:27 PM
Well then it was safe. It was just a freak thing. She's with god now and all hail the NRA
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on January 01, 2015, 10:06:19 PM
http://6abc.com/news/georgia-police-chief-says-he-accidentally-shot-wife/458117/
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: ice grillin you on January 01, 2015, 10:09:16 PM
"We are concerned for his wife and are concerned for the chief," Brown said.


poor guy
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on January 01, 2015, 10:10:58 PM
How the hell do you accidentally blast your old lady at 4am?

Cleaning the service weapon in bed?

Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: ice grillin you on January 01, 2015, 10:14:54 PM
im completely baffled as to how a gun could shoot someone...it so rarely happens
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on January 01, 2015, 10:23:43 PM
shtein happens man. Those triggers are liiiight. Ask Prezbo
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: MDS on January 01, 2015, 10:38:19 PM
so many people shoot other people by accident all the time

no need to investigate this one
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: ice grillin you on January 02, 2015, 10:48:30 AM
these rebels

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/gun-friendly-restaurant-in-louisiana-gives-carrying-customers-discount/
Title: Re: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: General_Failure on January 02, 2015, 12:17:49 PM
Uh, I'm pretty sure that's called armed robbery.
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on January 02, 2015, 02:28:27 PM
http://6abc.com/news/georgia-police-chief-says-he-accidentally-shot-wife/458117/

http://abcnews.go.com/US/georgia-police-chiefs-wife-heard-moaning-911-call/story?id=27965504

Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on January 03, 2015, 09:44:07 AM
http://abc13.com/news/dad-allegedly-shoots-teen-son-in-northwest-houston/460305/

Father of the year candidate
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: ice grillin you on January 03, 2015, 09:00:41 PM
lol...why you walkin round your living room with a holstered gun

http://www.meadvilletribune.com/cnhi_network/guys-mills-accidental-shooting/article_5fc508de-936b-11e4-978f-f70daebcfaea.html
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on January 03, 2015, 09:11:13 PM
He must protect his house!

Also...Pennsyltucky
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: ice grillin you on January 03, 2015, 09:55:36 PM
that same guy wants to be able to go shopping in walmart with his gun
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on January 03, 2015, 09:57:31 PM
And supports people who want to go out to eat at Chili's with an assault rifle strapped across their body.
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: Rome on January 03, 2015, 10:01:32 PM
lol...why you walkin round your living room with a holstered gun

http://www.meadvilletribune.com/cnhi_network/guys-mills-accidental-shooting/article_5fc508de-936b-11e4-978f-f70daebcfaea.html

the funniest thing about that article is you actually have to pay to read the site after viewing (5) pages.
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: ice grillin you on January 03, 2015, 10:33:27 PM
hmmmm

http://q13fox.com/2015/01/03/police-arrest-idaho-mom-after-finding-loaded-gun-where-kids-could-access-it/
Title: Re: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: Diomedes on January 04, 2015, 10:02:49 AM
NRA will provide her with legal counsel.  Can't let the evil government restrict her second amendment right to love her gun more than her kid, her own life, or anyone elses.
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on January 04, 2015, 03:35:39 PM
@PzFeed: A mother in Oklahoma shot and killed her two grown sons while they slept, then killed herself. Reuters
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on January 06, 2015, 01:06:43 PM
http://abc13.com/news/father-shot-to-death-in-se-houston/463656/
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on January 06, 2015, 11:37:19 PM
http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/sisters-15-11-charged-killing-16-year-old-brother-n281036

Jesus Christ wtf!

As an aside - not factoring in the fact they left a gun at home with them - but are kids no longer allowed to stay home alone? Even with a 16yr old?
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on January 10, 2015, 08:35:54 PM
@PzFeed: BREAKING NEWS: Police say a gunman has taken hostages at Tomball Hospital in Tomball, Texas. KHOU
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on January 10, 2015, 11:05:30 PM
http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/multiple-shootings-reported-idaho-suspect-captured-28142432

The Tomball thing ended up not being a hostage situation. A father distraught over his sons condition barricaded himself in the room
Title: Re: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: General_Failure on January 10, 2015, 11:10:41 PM
Not his fault the hospitals in Texas are open-carry.
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on January 10, 2015, 11:12:11 PM
Doctors open carry while performing surgery too

Don't tread on me, bro!
Title: Re: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: General_Failure on January 10, 2015, 11:12:55 PM
I'll bet they don't even sterilize those guns.
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on January 10, 2015, 11:17:03 PM
No need. Texans are tough.

Truck nuts prove this.
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: ice grillin you on January 11, 2015, 02:27:41 AM
oooops

http://www.courierpostonline.com/story/news/local/south-jersey/2015/01/10/police-man-shot-wounded-brother-pleasantville/21574143/
Title: Re: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: General_Failure on January 11, 2015, 11:42:54 AM
Soldier Surprises Wife With Romantic Breakfast, She Surprises Him Back By Shooting Him (http://www.inquisitr.com/1745325/soldier-wife-shooting/)

Quote
But at about 10:15 a.m., Zia Segule unexpectedly came back home. He carried a take-out breakfast to surprise his sleeping wife. At least, he thought she was sleeping.

According to police, the soldier did not attempt to sneak into the house. He simply entered through the front door as he normally would. But in the interim between his departure and return, 27-year-old Tiffany had apparently activated the house’s security alarm system.

When Zia Segule walked through the door, the alarm went off.

The police say they still are not sure whether or not Zia attempted to tell his wife that he was home, or if he tried to shut off the alarm. All they say they know for sure is that Tiffany — perhaps nervous due to a series of break-ins in the area recently — pulled out a gun and fired one round sight unseen, through her closed bedroom door.
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on January 14, 2015, 06:27:15 PM
http://www.myfoxphilly.com/story/27848555/nra-suing-pennsylvania-cities-on-gun-laws-mayors-vow-fight

NRA baby!!
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on January 17, 2015, 01:00:35 PM
http://www.wesh.com/news/shots-fired-at-melbourne-square-mall/30773566?absolute=true&utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter&utm_campaign=wesh
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on January 22, 2015, 07:31:46 PM
Been a couple days since a kid shot himself

Florida toddler dies after shooting himself with dad's gun

http://www.khou.com/story/news/nation-now/2015/01/22/florida-toddler-dies-after-shooting-himself-with-dads-gun/22152659/

(Sent from KHOU 11)
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: ice grillin you on January 23, 2015, 08:23:37 AM
saw all the religious nuts during the march for life in DC yesterday....the good news is that they are fully adopting gun control as a secondary cause to abortion and plan to really build on it as a platform in the coming year...in fact they call it the "other abortion"
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on January 26, 2015, 11:12:55 PM
http://www.khou.com/story/news/local/2015/01/26/woman-shoots-at-dog-in-missouri-city-dog-park/22379321/

Get a load of this shtein here
Title: Re: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: Seabiscuit36 on January 27, 2015, 08:19:07 AM
She must have been watching The leftovers
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: Geowhizzer on February 14, 2015, 06:53:59 PM
This popped up on my facebook feed this afternoon.  On the surface, it looks like a stupid charge, but I've learned over the years to not trust these things.  Do any of you still in the area know anything about this situation?

Gordon Van Gilder faces up to 10 years for owning a 300-year old unloaded gun. (http://gogetfunding.com/project/van-gilder-legal-defense-fund)

(The other alarm that is going off is that I can find no news story of this situation other than pro-gun websites.)
Title: Re: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: shorebird on February 14, 2015, 08:35:18 PM
Yes, and if it were reported on MSNBC, it would be rock solid true and unbiased.
Title: Re: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: Geowhizzer on February 14, 2015, 08:56:33 PM
Yes, and if it were reported on MSNBC, it would be rock solid true and unbiased.

Knee-jerk response. 

Like I said, NO news stories.  No Fox, no CNN, no anything (at least on my five-second google news search).  Made me wonder if it was even happening.
Title: Re: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: MDS on February 14, 2015, 11:08:48 PM
Yes, and if it were reported on MSNBC, it would be rock solid true and unbiased.

haha man i love this guy
Title: Re: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: shorebird on February 17, 2015, 10:00:54 AM
This popped up on my facebook feed this afternoon.  On the surface, it looks like a stupid charge, but I've learned over the years to not trust these things.  Do any of you still in the area know anything about this situation?

Gordon Van Gilder faces up to 10 years for owning a 300-year old unloaded gun. (http://gogetfunding.com/project/van-gilder-legal-defense-fund)

(The other alarm that is going off is that I can find no news story of this situation other than pro-gun websites.)

Yeah, a knee jerk response to all the pro gun websites you found it on.

By the way, the guys a retired school teacher and the story is all over Jersey.https://www.google.com/?gws_rd=ssl#q=Gordon+Van+Gilder+ (https://www.google.com/?gws_rd=ssl#q=Gordon+Van+Gilder+)
Title: Re: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: shorebird on February 17, 2015, 10:02:45 AM
Yes, and if it were reported on MSNBC, it would be rock solid true and unbiased.

haha man i love this guy

You're a farging idiot who doesn't hardly even read a quote or post before you respond, so stfu.
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: Rome on February 17, 2015, 01:08:31 PM
Settle down, angry white man.

No one is taking your guns or fairy tale books here.  No need to lash out like an infant whose binky got stolen by the family cat.
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: MDS on February 17, 2015, 01:16:30 PM
on all seriousness the lot of you can die, except for shore
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on February 17, 2015, 02:03:10 PM
Season two true detective is shore and mds

Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: Rome on February 17, 2015, 03:01:28 PM
Season two of your face is more like it.
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: smeags on February 17, 2015, 03:23:24 PM
on all seriousness the lot of you can die, except for shore

what about IN ?
Title: Re: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: Geowhizzer on February 17, 2015, 04:23:46 PM
This popped up on my facebook feed this afternoon.  On the surface, it looks like a stupid charge, but I've learned over the years to not trust these things.  Do any of you still in the area know anything about this situation?

Gordon Van Gilder faces up to 10 years for owning a 300-year old unloaded gun. (http://gogetfunding.com/project/van-gilder-legal-defense-fund)

(The other alarm that is going off is that I can find no news story of this situation other than pro-gun websites.)

Yeah, a knee jerk response to all the pro gun websites you found it on.

By the way, the guys a retired school teacher and the story is all over Jersey.https://www.google.com/?gws_rd=ssl#q=Gordon+Van+Gilder+ (https://www.google.com/?gws_rd=ssl#q=Gordon+Van+Gilder+)

You know jack squat about my political beliefs.    And no, it did not come up on my google search at the time, other than on sites dealing specifically with gun rights.

And for the record, yes:  I would prefer to see the story somewhere that didn't have a specific interest in gun rights.   
Title: Re: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: shorebird on February 18, 2015, 10:20:59 AM
Settle down, angry white man.

No one is taking your guns or fairy tale books here.  No need to lash out like an infant whose binky got stolen by the family cat.

Haha! Yes, I'm a gun toting bible thumping Christian. Anyone who has read any of my post knows that.

This popped up on my facebook feed this afternoon.  On the surface, it looks like a stupid charge, but I've learned over the years to not trust these things.  Do any of you still in the area know anything about this situation?

Gordon Van Gilder faces up to 10 years for owning a 300-year old unloaded gun. (http://gogetfunding.com/project/van-gilder-legal-defense-fund)

(The other alarm that is going off is that I can find no news story of this situation other than pro-gun websites.)

Yeah, a knee jerk response to all the pro gun websites you found it on.

By the way, the guys a retired school teacher and the story is all over Jersey.https://www.google.com/?gws_rd=ssl#q=Gordon+Van+Gilder+ (https://www.google.com/?gws_rd=ssl#q=Gordon+Van+Gilder+)

You know jack squat about my political beliefs.    And no, it did not come up on my google search at the time, other than on sites dealing specifically with gun rights.

And for the record, yes:  I would prefer to see the story somewhere that didn't have a specific interest in gun rights.   

And were was it that you found me commenting on your political beliefs? And how is a site that is centered on raising funds for legal defense cases specifically a pro-gun website when the one case you question the only gun case fundraiser listed? And were are the other pro-gun websites that you found this on?

You all are so full of shtein that it's a wonder it's not running out your ears.



Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: Geowhizzer on February 18, 2015, 10:32:22 AM
For crying out loud shore, I was asking if anyone had seen anything because I couldn't find it at the time...

It was on my FACEBOOK FEED that someone I know had posted.

At the time I did a google search, and the only sites that came up were pro-gun sites.

I just wanted to see it on an actual news site, preferably local.  AT THE TIME (right after I saw it on facebook), there wasn't any on the first page of the google search.  All I could find at the time was several sites that linked to the same NRA News video.

And again, you don't know my political positions.  I think that it's terrible that someone could face years in prison for an antique gun.  I do question his wisdom in how he carried it in a state known for tough gun laws.

Why would I have a reason to lie?  I was just trying to verify the story.  Thank you for doing that.
Title: Re: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: General_Failure on February 18, 2015, 11:04:05 AM
Good job covering up the liberal conspiracy, Comrade. You're getting an extra ration of NPR this week!
Title: Re: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: Geowhizzer on February 18, 2015, 11:33:55 AM
Good job covering up the liberal conspiracy, Comrade. You're getting an extra ration of NPR this week!

WOOT!  I mean... carry on.
Title: Re: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: shorebird on February 18, 2015, 02:47:47 PM
Excuse me for wondering when you say you saw it on nothing but pro gun websites, wanted to see it on a site that wasn't pro gun, then the single link you post was anything but a pro gun site. But the logic of that statement will be lost on the liberal leftist fanatical mindset of most posters here. I don't care about your political position, much less did I comment on it, and never said you lied.

Everyone here is so quick to jump on the liberal bullshtein bandwagon. They're so far left they make FOX news look like moderates.   
Title: Re: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: rjs246 on February 18, 2015, 02:50:23 PM
Shore sure does get butthurt about politics.
Title: Re: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: Geowhizzer on February 18, 2015, 02:53:03 PM
Excuse me for wondering when you say you saw it on nothing but pro gun websites, wanted to see it on a site that wasn't pro gun, then the single link you post was anything but a pro gun site. But the logic of that statement will be lost on the liberal leftist fanatical mindset of most posters here. I don't care about your political position, much less did I comment on it, and never said you lied.

Everyone here is so quick to jump on the liberal bullshtein bandwagon. They're so far left they make FOX news look like moderates.

Forgive me, the link was the go fund me site for the guy.  The VIDEO on the damn thing was NRA NEWS.
Title: Re: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: shorebird on February 18, 2015, 03:04:41 PM
Maybe you should have posted the video then, after you stated that was the ONLY kind of place you could find it.
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on February 18, 2015, 03:24:13 PM
Shore is shore fired up.
Title: Re: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: Geowhizzer on February 18, 2015, 03:30:25 PM
Maybe you should have posted the video then, after you stated that was the ONLY kind of place you could find it.

I give up.  Forgive me for thinking you were capable of an adult conversation.  I'll let you back to your sentry job now.

(http://www.orangejuiceblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/10/Get-Off-My-Lawn.jpg)
Title: Re: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: rjs246 on February 18, 2015, 03:32:49 PM
So much butthurt, Shore. So much butthurt.
Title: Re: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: General_Failure on February 18, 2015, 05:56:30 PM
Someone get a lot of tequila and limes so all that salt doesn't go to waste.
Title: Re: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: Diomedes on February 18, 2015, 06:08:36 PM
I wonder who is actually the most liberal poster here.  We've taken those dumb tests before.  Whatever.  The board trends center left I'd say.  I don't think it's fair to characterize the discussion here as extreme liberal because the posts just don't support it.  Being pro choice is not extreme.  I don't remember anyone around here seriously advocating for communism, or socialism as a better alternative to the farging mess we have now.  No one is talking about the government taking over industries or any of that stuff. 

Point is, this group is hardly radical left.  It's a matter of record.
Title: Re: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: General_Failure on February 18, 2015, 06:10:57 PM
If you're so moderate then how come you didn't defend that facebook link to the shady donation website, huh?
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: Munson on February 18, 2015, 06:39:14 PM
I think the furthest left position held here is that there are a few people that would outright ban guns.

I would do it, but I also don't think it's feasible, so I'd settle for some better restrictions instead.
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: Geowhizzer on February 18, 2015, 06:42:47 PM
I think the furthest left position held here is that there are a few people that would outright ban guns.

I would do it, but I also don't think it's feasible, so I'd settle for some better restrictions instead.

That pesky second amendment would get in the way of an outright ban.  Hell, the government is even having trouble with registering and requiring training.

Personally, I'm so right I won't settle for less than a nuclear missile silo in my back yard.  I live in Florida - STAND YOUR GROUND, DAMMIT!
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: Munson on February 18, 2015, 06:46:00 PM
I think the furthest left position held here is that there are a few people that would outright ban guns.

I would do it, but I also don't think it's feasible, so I'd settle for some better restrictions instead.

That pesky second amendment would get in the way of an outright ban.  Hell, the government is even having trouble with registering and requiring training.

Personally, I'm so right I won't settle for less than a nuclear missile silo in my back yard.  I live in Florida - STAND YOUR GROUND, DAMMIT!

Well that's part of the reason why I don't think it's feasible, as it would require an Amendment to the Constitution that isn't going to happen. Or a Supreme Court to interpret the 2nd in an extremely strict way.

Requiring training and registration is exactly the type of restrictions I'd get behind. And I'm talking about more training than the 1 hour or whatever you get at the range in some states. Constant training, renewal trials, proper storage requirements, etc.
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: Rome on February 18, 2015, 07:00:07 PM
Requiring training 40 years ago might have worked.  There's hundreds of millions of unregistered firearms in this country and most people who own them don't know a thing about how they work.  They can't even clean them properly, for the love of Christ.

Title: Re: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: shorebird on February 21, 2015, 01:08:50 PM
I wonder who is actually the most liberal poster here.  We've taken those dumb tests before.  Whatever.  The board trends center left I'd say.  I don't think it's fair to characterize the discussion here as extreme liberal because the posts just don't support it.  Being pro choice is not extreme.  I don't remember anyone around here seriously advocating for communism, or socialism as a better alternative to the farging mess we have now.  No one is talking about the government taking over industries or any of that stuff. 

Point is, this group is hardly radical left.  It's a matter of record.

Hahahaha! Man, you are in a dream world if you think that.
Title: Re: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: shorebird on February 21, 2015, 01:11:03 PM
Maybe you should have posted the video then, after you stated that was the ONLY kind of place you could find it.

I give up.  Forgive me for thinking you were capable of an adult conversation.  I'll let you back to your sentry job now.

(http://www.orangejuiceblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/10/Get-Off-My-Lawn.jpg)

One way to start a adult conversation, as you put it, would be to actually have what you post backed up with a few facts.

Loved that movie by the way. Love Clint Eastwood, probably my favorite actor/director. The pic does nothing to convey the overall message or plot of the movie. Just proves that most of you here will grab any snippet of news to get your leftist agenda out there, or to slam someone who might not share your politics.

Whatever, I'm not a Christian but I don't hate them or talk down to or about them just because they believe something I don't. Same with any other group. Not the same with the liberals and conservatives. Anyone who doesn't think like they do are ignorant, halfbreed rednecks or bleeding heart liberal lying shteinbags. Igor is a perfect example of a leftist racist kill whitey liberal, and as far as all you think I'm the prime example of a gun toting bible thumping beaner/stillupfront hating aryan racist repub. If it wasn't me it would be someone else.
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on February 21, 2015, 01:12:57 PM
Dio is correct
Title: Re: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: shorebird on February 21, 2015, 01:27:45 PM
You might be a liberal if...

1. You think Ted Koppel's Hair is real!

2. You like to give to charities - with other people's money.

3. You think free love is sheik and still wonder why your third marriage just went down the toilet.

4. Whenever an intern disappears in Washington, you say it's all about sex.

5. Your father wore flowers and your mother wore army boots in the sixties.

6. You think Al Gore won the election in 2000.

7. You fondly recall Stalin as "Uncle Joe".

8. You think the second amendment is the right to keep and bear a white flag.

9. Whenever you hear Rush Limbaugh's name mentioned you foam at the mouth and your knee jerks.

10. When hooligans throw rocks at police, you call it civil disobedience, when Republicans protest a fixed election you call it a riot.

11. If you nod your head and genuflect when Ted Kennedy speaks (or belches) then you might be a liberal.

12. If you went to prep school, got your bachelor's, master's, doctorate; you teach in a university, and still imagine that you know all about the real world, then you might be a liberal.

13. If you think evangelical is a dirty word you might be a liberal.

14. If you make sure to invite a lone conservative to your chic (not sheik) party because you want to show people how open-minded you are then you might be a liberal.

15. If you think alcoholics are disabled and deserve Social Security (or should be elected to be the senior senator from Massachussettes) then you might be a liberal.

16. If you eat granola bars for breakfast, salad greens for lunch, quiche for supper and then wake up hungry in the middle of the night and eat a whole quart of ice cream...and still think you are eating healthy, then you might be a liberal.

17. If you think rats, mice and houseflies are people, too, then you might be a liberal.

18. If you burried your dead goldfish in the compost bin because you thought it would be good for the environment then you might be a liberal.

19. If you think the government can solve your personal problems then you might be a liberal.

20. And our favorite: You might be a liberal if your FIVE-YEAR-OLD tells YOU what to do!

21. "You might be a liberal if you give money to the homeless man on the corner of the freeway, but you turn up your nose every time you see a boy scout."

Like a glove
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: Munson on February 21, 2015, 01:31:06 PM
I'm not sure if any one of those makes any sense.

Shore done gone of the deep end.
Title: Re: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: shorebird on February 21, 2015, 01:48:44 PM
I'm not sure if any one of those makes any sense.

Shore done gone of the deep end.

Number nine hits home, as it would if it said Hannity, or O'Reilly
Title: Re: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: shorebird on February 21, 2015, 01:49:11 PM
No. 10 for shore.
Title: Re: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: General_Failure on February 21, 2015, 03:08:18 PM
FWD: FWD: FWD: FWD: FWD: FWD: FWD: RE: FUNNY EMAIL FROM GRANDMA
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: MDS on February 21, 2015, 03:19:00 PM
shore how was the afternoon at the VA hall
Title: Re: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: shorebird on February 21, 2015, 08:01:56 PM
You two need new material. Old and not funny.
Title: Re: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: shorebird on February 21, 2015, 08:14:17 PM
FWD: FWD: FWD: FWD: FWD: FWD: FWD: RE: FUNNY EMAIL FROM GRANDMA

Not even. The Conservative Monitor (http://www.conservativemonitor.com/humor/10signs.shtml)

Don't get emails like you must. Half those with fifty CC and the other half specials from Dominos and all the local sub shops.
Title: Re: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: shorebird on February 21, 2015, 08:17:19 PM
shore how was the afternoon at the VA hall

If I was a vet and did go to the local VA hall it would have been better spent than yours was beating that pathetic little pecker to Asian porn. Oh wait, you said you can't stand that they screech in some high pitched voice, so maybe your into the euro babes now.
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on February 21, 2015, 08:24:36 PM
I think he likes hairy Pakistani chicks
Title: Re: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: shorebird on February 21, 2015, 08:33:32 PM
Ahg! Talk about the burnt forest. He could do better than that. There has to be a fat MILF out there some were.
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: MDS on February 22, 2015, 02:24:39 AM
i honestly have no clue what youre talking about
Title: Re: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: ice grillin you on February 22, 2015, 02:31:32 AM
You two need new material. Old and not funny.
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: MDS on February 22, 2015, 02:36:14 AM
this is like the time he got drunk and PMed me a bunch of anti semitic stuff

Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: ice grillin you on February 22, 2015, 10:42:08 AM
he copied and pasted something from 2003 and is talking about old material

as romey would say - you cant make this shtein up
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on March 01, 2015, 11:54:47 AM
Two days and two toddlers who have shot themselves here in Houston

Yesterday was a three year old

This morning a four year old
Title: Re: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: Eagaholic on March 01, 2015, 09:53:04 PM
In all fairness, I couldn't stand to live in Houston either.
Title: Re: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: Seabiscuit36 on March 02, 2015, 04:22:26 PM
if only those toddlers had taken the safety courses. 
Title: Re: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: hbionic on March 02, 2015, 04:33:56 PM
In all fairness, I couldn't stand to live in Houston either.

 :cfhead :cfhead :cfhead :cfhead
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on March 02, 2015, 09:23:43 PM
Two days and two toddlers who have shot themselves here in Houston

Yesterday was a three year old

This morning a four year old

Today we have a five year old shooting a six year old

HCSO: 5-year-old shoots 6-year-old brother while playing with gun

http://www.khou.com/story/news/local/neighborhood/2015/03/02/hcso-child-may-have-shot-himself-in-ne-harris-county/24260901/

(Sent from KHOU 11)
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: Rome on March 02, 2015, 09:44:06 PM
If I'm 8 and living in Houston, I'm the farg OUT.
Title: Re: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: General_Failure on March 03, 2015, 12:06:57 AM
They're going to have to start checking IDs on wire cutter purchases once all these kids start jumping to Mexico for a safer life.
Title: Re: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: Eagaholic on March 03, 2015, 12:24:18 AM
I think I'll start marketing KiddiKevr toddler vests and diapers.
Safe and tidy, keeps the shtein in and the lead out.
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on March 03, 2015, 01:33:34 PM
I'd invest in that.

Lets do it.

Make them with Longhorn and Aggie logos and of course camo and we'll sell out
Title: Re: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: Eagaholic on March 03, 2015, 04:04:33 PM
I was also figuring camo or else rebel flag for the deep south, & I will need a distribution guy Longhorns is a nice touch.
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on March 03, 2015, 04:53:21 PM
We could make a 60% profit margin!

The rebel flag is a good touch. I'd sell that one to the chick in my office. She's a "the south will rise again" type
Title: Re: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: Diomedes on March 03, 2015, 05:20:43 PM
"The slavers will rise again, huh?  Is that it, and you're looking forward to that?"

Let me guess, she uses the word liberty a lot.

Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on March 03, 2015, 05:47:05 PM
and "the US is a Christian Nation and we don't need a Muslim in office"
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: Geowhizzer on March 11, 2015, 09:43:25 PM
The members of the Florida House of Representatives are farging morons.

Florida House Bill 19:  School Safety (http://www.myfloridahouse.gov/Sections/Bills/billsdetail.aspx?BillId=53035)

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School Safety: Permits school superintendent, with approval of the school board, to authorize school safety designee to carry concealed weapon or firearm on school property; provides requirements for school safety designees; provides exception to prohibition on possession of firearms or other specified devices on school property or other specified areas; provides for fingerprint processing & retention; requires that fees be borne by school safety designee or school; requires school boards to formulate policies & procedures for dealing with active shooters & hostage situations in consultation with law enforcement; requires district school boards & private schools allow campus tours by local law enforcement agencies for specified purposes & that their recommendations be documented; permits district school boards to commission one or more school safety officers on each school campus.

Note:  Every school in my district already has a School Resource Officer (paid for by the County Sheriff Office) that carries a service firearm. 
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on March 19, 2015, 11:06:01 PM
http://abc13.com/565795/

Gunzzzz
Title: Re: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: Eagaholic on April 16, 2015, 11:43:11 PM
more gunzzz
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MILWAUKEE — Damani Terry just wanted to join a group of girls dancing in a park across the street. The 2-year-old stepped into the road — right into the path of an oncoming van.

The van hit the toddler, and the driver jumped out to check on the badly injured boy, setting into motion a chain of events that included an uncle fatally shooting his own nephew and a stranger and then taking his own life. In the end, four people were dead.

It all started Sunday as Archie Brown Jr. drove his van through the northwest side of Milwaukee on an errand to Home Depot.

Brown hit Damani and leaped from the vehicle to attend to the toddler. Damani's 15-year-old brother, who had been celebrating a birthday in a nearby house, ran to his brother after witnessing the accident.

At that point, police said, the boys' uncle, Ricky Chiles, took the law into his own hands, emerging from a home into the street with a gun. He fired at the 40-year-old Brown, striking him and hitting Chiles' teenage nephew, who witnesses said was attempting to help when he was shot.

Brown died at the scene, alongside Damani. The teenager, Rasheed Chiles, died at a hospital.

On Thursday, Ricky Chiles III shot himself as police and federal marshals closed in on him at a motel in the Chicago suburb of Lyons, where he was staying with his girlfriend.
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on April 17, 2015, 10:04:22 AM
Jesus...thats right out of the redneck playbook
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: AO1 on April 17, 2015, 10:34:19 AM


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It all started Sunday as Archie Brown Jr. drove his van through the northwest side of Milwaukee on an errand to Home Depot.

It's Home Depot's fault for being a faceless corporate giant.
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: smeags on April 17, 2015, 10:43:16 AM
 :-D
Title: Re: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: ice grillin you on April 17, 2015, 11:08:52 AM
more gunzzz
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MILWAUKEE — Damani Terry just wanted to join a group of girls dancing in a park across the street. The 2-year-old stepped into the road — right into the path of an oncoming van.

The van hit the toddler, and the driver jumped out to check on the badly injured boy, setting into motion a chain of events that included an uncle fatally shooting his own nephew and a stranger and then taking his own life. In the end, four people were dead.

It all started Sunday as Archie Brown Jr. drove his van through the northwest side of Milwaukee on an errand to Home Depot.

Brown hit Damani and leaped from the vehicle to attend to the toddler. Damani's 15-year-old brother, who had been celebrating a birthday in a nearby house, ran to his brother after witnessing the accident.

At that point, police said, the boys' uncle, Ricky Chiles, took the law into his own hands, emerging from a home into the street with a gun. He fired at the 40-year-old Brown, striking him and hitting Chiles' teenage nephew, who witnesses said was attempting to help when he was shot.

Brown died at the scene, alongside Damani. The teenager, Rasheed Chiles, died at a hospital.

On Thursday, Ricky Chiles III shot himself as police and federal marshals closed in on him at a motel in the Chicago suburb of Lyons, where he was staying with his girlfriend.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bjCHXJA9D9E
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on April 17, 2015, 10:30:46 PM
http://mobile.philly.com/entertainment/?wss=/philly/entertainment&id=300218961

I knew this wouldn't go over well with the mouth breather redneck gun nuts.
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on April 18, 2015, 10:10:21 PM
http://www.khou.com/story/news/local/2015/04/17/constables-dad-fatally-shot-daughters-boyfriend-during-altercation/25923323/

Gunzzzz
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: Rome on April 19, 2015, 08:09:40 AM


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It all started Sunday as Archie Brown Jr. drove his van through the northwest side of Milwaukee on an errand to Home Depot.

It's Home Depot's fault for being a faceless corporate giant.

ha!
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on April 30, 2015, 05:05:11 PM
http://www.texasmonthly.com/daily-post/buy-truck-benny-boyd-andrews-and-get-ar-15
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: 44eagles44 on May 02, 2015, 08:27:38 PM
It's all about airguns, boys.  .30 cal Evanix Tactical Sniper, 10 shot repeater. :poison
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on May 03, 2015, 09:56:05 PM
http://pzfeed.com/two-shot-dead-at-muhammad-cartoon-contest-in-texas/

Gunzzzzz and mooslims?!
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: Geowhizzer on May 09, 2015, 05:07:40 PM
This was in my facebook newsfeed today.  Don't have enough energy to verify.

(https://scontent-mia.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xft1/v/t1.0-9/11120056_10155561486420311_1196270934307899786_n.jpg?oh=5ca370b72f54140bcfebb804093d5452&oe=55DE3509)
Title: Re: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: SunMo on May 11, 2015, 01:44:55 PM
George Zimmerman involved in another shooting in Florida.

lulz
Title: Re: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: General_Failure on May 11, 2015, 01:47:44 PM
Except this time he got shot. If only he'd had a gun to protect himself.
Title: Re: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on May 11, 2015, 05:45:36 PM
George Zimmerman involved in another shooting in Florida.

lulz

Well I am shocked!
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: ice grillin you on May 15, 2015, 04:15:34 PM
im in a hole and i.....cant....get......BLAOW!

http://www.timesgazette.com/news/home_top-news/153524773/Leesburg-woman-stable-after-gunshot
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on May 17, 2015, 04:46:49 PM
http://www.khou.com/story/news/local/texas-news/2015/05/17/multiple-deaths-reported-in-waco-restaurant-melee/27498095/
Title: Re: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: General_Failure on May 17, 2015, 05:10:30 PM
Someone get me the number for that station, you can't have a melee with guns.
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on May 17, 2015, 05:16:14 PM
lol well nine bikers got got in the gunmelee

http://pzfeed.com/at-least-9-dead-and-many-injured-in-biker-gang-shooting-in-waco-texas/
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: ice grillin you on May 17, 2015, 05:25:14 PM
lookin at my seiko its about to be waco
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: Rome on May 17, 2015, 06:15:40 PM
That story was on my FB newsfeed and some of the comments I've read are epically awesome.

My favorites are the "oh, my thoughts and prayers are with the victims" comments.   

PS: I never want to hear another motherfarger say a WORD about Florida again.  Not with Texa(n)s still in existence, anyway.
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: ice grillin you on May 17, 2015, 06:49:10 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BKGZnB41_e4&feature=youtu.be
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: MDS on May 17, 2015, 06:57:54 PM
gotta give the cop credit for not shooting him on sight
Title: Re: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: General_Failure on May 17, 2015, 07:44:34 PM
PS: I never want to hear another motherfarger say a WORD about Florida again.  Not with Texa(n)s still in existence, anyway.

https://twitter.com/_FloridaMan
Title: Re: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: Seabiscuit36 on May 18, 2015, 08:10:13 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BKGZnB41_e4&feature=youtu.be
Not surprising.  At least these douches made a point and didn't go to Applebees
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on May 19, 2015, 08:25:48 PM
http://on.nbcdfw.com/6u6CBgG

I got high on meth just looking at this
Title: Re: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: Diomedes on May 19, 2015, 09:21:15 PM
#25 Dad?
#29 Vicki's Daddy?
#51 Look Test PASS
#57 The Kid.  Youngest of the bunch.
#63 Best Mustache/Best Hair Overall
#70 Who knew Two Face was a black biker in Texas?
#95 430lbs and only 5'10"
#100 oldest dude in the crowd, possibly a zombie.
#110  Clearly not bald.  Someone might get his lawyer to point that out, spring him on technicality.
#115  Dead ringer for Captain Ahab
#138 6'2", 400lbs of trouble
#146 Comb in back pocket handy before photo shoot
#149 thug
#156 Jesus the Biker, aka Soft Eyes


We can assume that the women have been farged by all of the rest, at once, and don't they look it.
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on May 19, 2015, 11:54:57 PM
http://www.khou.com/story/news/local/texas/2015/05/19/sapd-suspect-in-waco-shoot-out-is-retired-detective/27629817/?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: phattymatty on June 02, 2015, 11:09:14 AM
awesome

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/05/29/matthew-apperson-stand-your-ground_n_7472894.html?ir=Black+Voices&ncid=fcbklnkushpmg00000047
Title: Re: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: Diomedes on June 02, 2015, 01:30:31 PM
I wouldn't live in Florida if you paid me.
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: Rome on June 02, 2015, 02:18:12 PM
We have enough ditch diggers here already.

Thx.
Title: Re: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: General_Failure on June 02, 2015, 02:29:12 PM
How about grave diggers?
Title: Re: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: Diomedes on June 02, 2015, 02:57:02 PM
Only Texas is less appealing to me than Florida.  Hell Hole.
Title: Re: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: General_Failure on June 02, 2015, 03:06:46 PM
Mississippi?
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: Rome on June 02, 2015, 03:56:03 PM
Alabama, Indiana and everything else not touching an ocean.
Title: Re: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: Diomedes on June 02, 2015, 04:19:18 PM
Def. rather live in Mississippi than either Florida or Texas.
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: Rome on June 02, 2015, 07:15:39 PM
No you would not. White liberals wilt in the humidity.
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on June 13, 2015, 11:54:22 AM
Buy an armored van and shoot up the Dallas PD?

Just another episode in the Wild West aka Texas

shteinhead governor is signing open carry today too.

Title: Re: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: General_Failure on June 13, 2015, 12:06:25 PM
Texas didn't already have open carry?
Title: Re: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: Diomedes on June 13, 2015, 12:11:42 PM
They did.  This new law requires everyone to carry.
Title: Re: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: General_Failure on June 13, 2015, 12:19:31 PM
Ah, so they're arming the illegals and terrorists so that the real Americans have something to do. Very smart.
Title: Re: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: General_Failure on June 18, 2015, 12:14:57 AM
Report: Nine Dead in Charleston, South Carolina Church Shooting (http://www.newsweek.com/report-nine-dead-charleston-south-carolina-church-shooting-344235)

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A suspect is on the run in Charleston, South Carolina after shots were fired into Emanuel African Methodist Episcopal, an African-American church, around 9 p.m. The number of possible victims was not immediately clear, though the suspect may have attacked a Bible study group the church holds every week.

Peter McCoy, a representative of District 115 in South Carolina, said on Twitter that nine people died in the shooting, but police did not confirm this claim. Eleven members of the church attended the Bible study.

The suspect was described by the Charleston Police Department as a white male in his early 20s and of small build. He was last seen wearing a grey sweatshirt, blue jeans and Timberland boots.
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: MDS on June 18, 2015, 12:50:11 AM
well this should be good
Title: Re: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: Diomedes on June 18, 2015, 06:12:37 AM
I think we might need another civil war and this time, we snuff out all the white supremecists.
Title: Re: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: ice grillin you on June 18, 2015, 09:16:51 AM
http://www.cbs46.com/story/29350533/shots-fired-into-church-on-pendleton-street
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: MDS on June 18, 2015, 09:58:36 AM
Quote
“I have to do it. You rape our women and you’re taking over our country. And you have to go.”
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: ice grillin you on June 18, 2015, 10:10:55 AM
https://www.facebook.com/people/Dylann-Roof/100009674437955
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: MDS on June 18, 2015, 10:20:35 AM
he recently became friends with shaq diesel and tay jackson

so i guess he doesnt hate them all? or is this like when the klansman was wearing air jordans.
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: smeags on June 18, 2015, 10:36:14 AM
probably the latter.
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on June 18, 2015, 03:31:07 PM
I guess the 87yr old woman he shot was taking the white women?!

Obama's statements today were on point. This is the fourteenth time he's had to comment on a mass shooting.

But no...not a gun problem in the USA. Don't tread on me!! Don't take mahh gunzz!

Where is the NRAs sure to be tone deaf statement?
Where are the "people kill people" and their tone deaf rebuttals?

This shtein has to stop. But it won't. Pols gotta get that gun lobby cake
Title: Re: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: Seabiscuit36 on June 18, 2015, 04:56:20 PM
https://www.facebook.com/people/Dylann-Roof/100009674437955
How weird is that fb page.  He's rocking a Rhodesia jacket, and the friends list doesn't scream WhitePower. 

Title: Re: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: ice grillin you on June 18, 2015, 05:36:11 PM
https://www.facebook.com/people/Dylann-Roof/100009674437955
How weird is that fb page.  He's rocking a Rhodesia jacket, and the friends list doesn't scream WhitePower.

he has  the apartheid/white supremist era Rhodesian and South African flags

and the current day Cecil county crest on his shoulder
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on June 18, 2015, 08:17:06 PM
http://thinkprogress.org/justice/2015/06/18/3671110/state-gun-laws-south-carolina/
Title: Re: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: Seabiscuit36 on June 19, 2015, 08:34:43 AM
https://www.facebook.com/people/Dylann-Roof/100009674437955
How weird is that fb page.  He's rocking a Rhodesia jacket, and the friends list doesn't scream WhitePower.

he has  the apartheid/white supremist era Rhodesian and South African flags

and the current day Cecil county crest on his shoulder
That's Rising Sun good Sir...  And honestly i think he'd be sent across the PA line to live with the rest of the Yoders with that haircut. 
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: ice grillin you on June 19, 2015, 09:17:52 AM
his doo is super amish
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on June 19, 2015, 12:23:00 PM
http://m.nydailynews.com/news/national/nra-officals-blames-pastor-charleston-church-shooting-article-1.2263911?utm_content=buffereb54e&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter.com&utm_campaign=NYDailyNewsTw

Yep there it is
Title: Re: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: Diomedes on June 19, 2015, 12:41:17 PM
What is an "offical"?
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: Beermonkey on June 19, 2015, 02:11:52 PM
his doo is super amish

He looks like coconut head from "Ned's Declassified School Survivor Guide"

(http://vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net/ned/images/b/b7/Images.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20110228220223)
Title: Re: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: General_Failure on June 20, 2015, 08:21:46 AM
Man accused of shooting at George Zimmerman charged with attempted murder (http://www.clickorlando.com/news/man-accused-of-shooting-at-george-zimmerman-charged-with-attempted-murder/33654148)

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On Thursday, the state attorney's office filed formal charges and replaced the recommended aggravated battery charge with attempted second-degree murder charge.  This means, if convicted, the maximum sentence would be 30 years instead of 15. Attorneys for both Zimmerman and Apperson said the move was not surprising.

Local 6 broke the news to George Zimmerman's attorney, Don West.

"George told me he's very happy about the more serious charge," said Don West, Zimmerman's attorney. "It means, I think, that George Zimmerman has more credibility, that George Zimmerman all along was followed and shot at," continued West. "One step at a time, and this was a big step today."
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: ice grillin you on June 20, 2015, 09:03:19 AM
zimmermann be the teflon don
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on June 20, 2015, 10:49:56 PM
7 people blasted with a shotgun in West Philly
9 people shot on a basketball court in Detroit

Gunzzzzzzz not the problem tho right?
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: Rome on June 21, 2015, 07:54:34 AM
Guns are huge problem but a fundamental lack of respect for life is a bigger one.    I'll be honest, though... humans have an instinct that compels them to prepare for disaster.  Self-preservation is coded into our genetic makeup, and if you look at what we're doing to the planet we live on, and how we treat it, the other species who inhabit it, not to mention each other, it's not the least bit surprising that our urge to stockpile weapons seems so overwhelming.  I think most of us know instinctively that we're not long for the planet as a species and the initial spasms toward the inevitable death throes have begun.

I think we've passed the tipping point already.  We don't have enough clean water to sustain ourselves.  Our food is diseased or genetically modified.  The air is filthy in most places.  In 150 years we've taken an absolute paradise and destroyed it and that's without nuking ourselves out of existence or releasing biological or chemical toxins to kill each other.

In short, it's all over but the counting.
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: ice grillin you on June 21, 2015, 11:05:25 AM
gawd romey
Title: Re: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: Eagaholic on June 21, 2015, 07:47:42 PM
does this mean the eagles aren't winning the super bowl?
Title: Re: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: Seabiscuit36 on June 22, 2015, 07:54:59 AM
I'm with Romey.  The world will end the with 10 seconds left on the clock at the Superbowl, and the birds are about to win it all then bam, fade to black.  I'm damn sure of it at this point. 

Also to romey's point
http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2015/06/22/the-earth-is-on-the-brink-of-a-sixth-mass-extinction-scientists-say-and-its-humans-fault/?tid=hp_mm
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on June 22, 2015, 07:05:08 PM
Darryl Hamilton the ex-MLBer was shot in a murder suicide here yesterday

His woman loaded him up with bullets and then offed herself

Gunz
Title: Re: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: Seabiscuit36 on June 23, 2015, 07:44:50 AM
If it was any other state than texas she would have stabbed him. 

Domesticz
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: ice grillin you on June 23, 2015, 07:47:30 AM
the requiem for gunz victims johnson that's on HBO right now is devastating

Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: hunt on June 24, 2015, 01:48:27 PM
don't know if this goes here or in the racism topic:

http://www.theroot.com/articles/news/2015/06/sc_state_rep_charleston_victims_sat_in_there_waited_their_turn_to_be_shot.html

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South Carolina state Rep: William Chumley (R), who has been identified as one of the 10 state lawmakers opposing the debate to remove the Confederate flag from the Capitol grounds, told a CNN reporter that "we'd have had less funerals," if the victims had the "means of self-defense."

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“We’re focusing on the wrong thing here. We need to be focusing on the nine families that are left and see that this doesn’t happen again,” Chumley told CNN reporter Drew Griffin. “These people sat in there, waited their turn to be shot. That’s sad. But somebody in there with the means of self defense could have stopped this. And we’d have had less funerals than we’re having.”

An obviously astonished Griffin responded, "You're turning this into a gun debate?"

"You said ‘guns,'” Chumley went on. “Why didn’t somebody, why didn’t somebody just do something? I mean, uh, you’ve got one skinny person shootin’ a gun, you know I mean, we need to take, and do what we can.”

"Are you asking that these people should have tackled him, these women should have fought him?” Griffin asked, once again seeking clarity.

"I don’t know what, I don’t know what the answer was,” the lawmaker responded. “But I know it’s really horrible for nine people to be shot and I understand that [Dylann Roff] reloaded his gun during the process. That's upsetting."
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: ice grillin you on June 24, 2015, 01:57:50 PM
probably the racism topic since william chumley is most likely a racist
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: smeags on June 24, 2015, 01:59:28 PM
how can anyone defend this party when time after time this kind of shtein comes out of the mouths of these dopes. yes. i'm a republican but i would be considered a RINO by the GOP because i think people like this dickhead, and there's way too many of them, should catch aids and die in the hopes of stopping a long line of stupid.

Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: smeags on June 24, 2015, 02:03:50 PM
http://www.cnn.com/videos/us/2015/06/24/charleston-church-shooting-state-rep-chumley-griffin-sot-ac.cnn (http://www.cnn.com/videos/us/2015/06/24/charleston-church-shooting-state-rep-chumley-griffin-sot-ac.cnn)

 :boom
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: ice grillin you on June 24, 2015, 02:13:27 PM
article i was reading this morning....cant imagine why republicans wouldnt want to research gun violence...can you?

http://thehill.com/policy/finance/245983-gop-panel-votes-to-keep-funding-ban-for-gun-violence-research#.VYrn3auonGs.twitter
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: smeags on June 24, 2015, 02:18:28 PM
gotta protect that cash flow coming from the NRA
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: ice grillin you on June 24, 2015, 02:21:53 PM
man you are all OVER this shtein
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on June 29, 2015, 10:28:04 PM
the requiem for gunz victims johnson that's on HBO right now is devastating

I'm watching it now

The one that hit the hardest thus far is the 12yr old who killed his sister and sexually assaulted her and then shot himself

Guns all over the damn house and the 12yr old was obsessed with them and yet no restricted access to them by the parents. Gun locks and safes but nope shtein was wide open for that little bastich to have access.

The blood is on the parents hands on that one.
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: hbionic on July 06, 2015, 04:34:21 AM
Just watched it. I've never paid attention to it, but over 32,000 shooting victims per year. Damn.

Whether wrong place wrong time, or victim of someone that's farged emotionally/mentally...being gunned down is a shtein way to go.

I don't live in fear, but it made me question a few things even in my family.
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on August 18, 2015, 07:50:19 PM
http://m.newson6.com/story.aspx?story=29826547&catId=112042

Lol
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on August 26, 2015, 08:53:35 AM
Live tv interview in Roanoke and someone starts shooting

Daaaaamn

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=DbG7uFxVfnY&feature=youtu.be
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on August 26, 2015, 08:56:17 AM
Jesus the cameraman and reporter were killed

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/virginia-police-shooting-live-television-news-report/

Guns...need more guns!
Title: Re: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: SunMo on August 26, 2015, 09:23:56 AM
that video is horrifying.
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on August 26, 2015, 09:35:56 AM
Yeah it is. I can't imagine them being there for a mundane human interest piece and then get shot...for what?!

It's bummed me out.

Is it a scorned boyfriend? A stalker? Random crazed lunatic?
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: AO1 on August 26, 2015, 10:09:47 AM
that's insane
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on August 26, 2015, 10:28:25 AM
Apparently a disgruntled employee...

I guess the NRA and people of their ilk will say news crews should've been armed?
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: BigEd76 on August 26, 2015, 12:22:55 PM
An angry black man that pulled this discrimination BS at another station 5 years ago

Both the original live video and his POV of the murders that he posted on Twitter and FB (along with his HR rants) can be seen here (http://heavy.com/news/2015/08/lester-lee-flanagan-flanighan-flanigan-wdbj-tv-disgruntled-employee-virginia-shooting-suspect-cameraman-photos-video-chase-gun-gunman-arrested/)
Title: Re: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: SunMo on August 26, 2015, 12:41:47 PM
aside from the obvioulsy horrendous act that was carried out, the worst part about this whole thing will be the media.  glorifying this piece of shtein by blasting his picture online, using his name and social media information and make the guy famous.  all it does is encourage the next psycho that they can do this, kill themselves and live on in infamy.
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: Rome on August 26, 2015, 01:02:09 PM
I'm honestly surprised this sort of thing doesn't happen more often in this country.  Guns & crazy people... ugh.
Title: Re: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: General_Failure on August 26, 2015, 01:08:52 PM
Boston Police Foil Massacre at Pokemon World Championship (http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2015/08/23/boston-pokemon.html)

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BOSTON — Police and prosecutors said Monday they thwarted a massacre planned for the Pokemon World Championship held here this weekend.

Boston police arrested James Austin Stumbo and Kevin Norton of Iowa on Saturday “because of threats of violence made over social media.” When police searched Stumbo and Norton’s vehicle parked in a garage several blocks from the Pokemon event, they found a shotgun, an AR-15 assault rifle, a hunting knife, and 250 rounds of ammunition.
Title: Re: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: ice grillin you on August 26, 2015, 01:20:06 PM
aside from the obvioulsy horrendous act that was carried out, the worst part about this whole thing will be the media.  glorifying this piece of shtein by blasting his picture online, using his name and social media information and make the guy famous.  all it does is encourage the next psycho that they can do this, kill themselves and live on in infamy.

the worst part thus far has been that somehow these two peoples deaths are more tragic because they happened on social media
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: hunt on August 26, 2015, 01:33:54 PM
that they happened on live tv, maybe.  any time something like this is caught on video, it gets more attn. 
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: smeags on August 26, 2015, 01:40:41 PM
so can someone just pull the plug on this guy ?
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: Rome on August 26, 2015, 01:48:42 PM
Fade to black?
Title: Re: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: Diomedes on August 26, 2015, 01:49:33 PM
It's the guns, stupid.
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: phattymatty on August 26, 2015, 03:11:37 PM
ugh. i don't know why i watched it but this dude GoPro'd himself shooting these two then posted it online....what a sick farg.
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: MDS on August 26, 2015, 03:34:26 PM
oh look, more gun violence in america

im sure this will be the one to enact some meaningful gun reform

in 2012 a 1st grade class was gunned down. 3 years later...here we are. same old shtein. good country we got here.
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on August 26, 2015, 03:44:30 PM
oh look, more gun violence in america

im sure this will be the one to enact some meaningful gun reform

in 2012 a 1st grade class was gunned down. 3 years later...here we are. same old shtein. good country we got here.

The NRA says we aren't sufficiently armed and beside Sandy Hook and every other shooting after was nothing but a goddamned false flag bro. Don't tread on mahhh gunz
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on August 26, 2015, 04:29:54 PM
http://abcnews.go.com/US/shooting-alleged-gunman-details-grievances-suicide-notes/story?id=33336339#.Vd4BJ7v2miQ.twitter

Well then...
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: Don Ho on August 26, 2015, 10:07:17 PM
farg this planet. 
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: BigEd76 on August 27, 2015, 12:52:46 AM
Gotta sell those papers!

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CNYZ1GtWEAA5z-W.jpg)
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on August 27, 2015, 12:11:36 PM
Holy shtein that's awful.

Almost as awful as the fact that yet again nothing will be done on the gun control front.

Grade A shteinhead Rush called for reporters and news people to be armed today.
Title: Re: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: General_Failure on August 27, 2015, 01:05:48 PM
Mississippi State: Campus gunman arrested, no one wounded (http://news.yahoo.com/mississippi-state-campus-gunman-arrested-no-one-wounded-155553213.html?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter)

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JACKSON, Miss. (AP) — Authorities at Mississippi State University say they have arrested a person who reportedly was carrying a gun on campus and that no injuries have been reported.

MSU spokesman Sid Salter told The Associated Press in a phone interview Thursday that the person had been arrested. He declined to give any further information.

The university had issued an online alert shortly after 10 a.m. saying a gunman had been reported near Carpenter Hall, which houses MSU's mechanical engineering department and overlooks the Drill Field at the heart of the 20,000-student university in Starkville. The gunman was later reported near Lee Hall, the university's main administration building.

MSU issued an all-clear and said on Twitter that classes would resume at 2 p.m.
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: AO1 on August 27, 2015, 04:27:14 PM
(https://scontent-lga1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpf1/v/t1.0-9/11891269_671165486317614_1036681546252576810_n.png?oh=34a61a01f405bb29b49b45c52423a177&oe=567F82DB)
Title: Re: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: Seabiscuit36 on August 27, 2015, 04:46:01 PM
Lol, no Russia or former russian bloc countries?
Title: Re: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: Eagaholic on August 27, 2015, 11:53:52 PM
No a lot of countries. Mexico and numerous Central and South American countries have firearm murder rates 3 to 10x higher than the US.

So, 'Merica!
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: Don Ho on August 28, 2015, 02:00:38 AM
What the hell?  Exactly!  Mexico and many Latin America countries put US to shame.  Of course the  cork sucking pricks running half of Africa don't call it murder.
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: ice grillin you on August 28, 2015, 06:38:49 AM
as long as we are better than a few lawless countries its all good
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: ice grillin you on August 28, 2015, 07:26:01 AM
nationwide vigils and tributes still happening 48 hrs later for these two....
Title: Re: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: Diomedes on August 28, 2015, 08:02:56 AM
so?
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: ice grillin you on August 28, 2015, 08:45:34 AM
so its beyond ridiculous...in just the last week i could probably find two dozen murders as or more tragic than this one....the fact that these people are being immortalized is infuriating

thats one of the reasons the reqiuem documentary on gun violence on hbo was so powerful....because it made you remember the tens of thousands in the country who get gunned down every year who you never hear about

if you listen and follow the response to these killings you believe that these peoples lives somehow mattered more than the rest

today the big story is video of the apartment that the killer lived in....im sorry they died....no one should die like that....but why do we need to see their killers apartment?....why are they getting moments of silence at sporting events?

according to cnn theres been two incidents around the world in the last two years....a missing airplane and a news caster got shot
Title: Re: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: SunMo on August 28, 2015, 09:04:35 AM
your posts are two different things, in the first one you talk about vigils and tributes, like the people who are mourning the two victims should not' be.  but in your 2nd post you rail against the media and the coverage of the event, which i totally agree with. i said it the day it happened that the media would blow it up.  the storylines are so juicy they can't resist. 
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: Rome on August 28, 2015, 09:10:32 AM
When white people get slaughtered on live television, it's big news.   It's obviously no more or no less tragic than a black boy getting assassinated by a rogue racist cop, but what it does is, it moves the conversation to what's really wrong in this country, and that is, there's too many guns in the hands of too many lunatics.

I hate to say it but a hot blonde chick and a goofy fat cameraman getting murdered might just do more to sway people on their views on guns than a school full of little kids, and certainly more than some black kid on a sidewalk in Baltimore or a teenager in a townhouse parking lot in Florida.
Title: Re: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: SunMo on August 28, 2015, 09:21:00 AM
have a mass shooting that cancels a NFL sunday...gun control will be instituted by lunch on Monday
Title: Re: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: Diomedes on August 28, 2015, 09:24:21 AM
It's ridiculous for people to mourn murder victims?   Kinda like people shouldn't give money to battle ALS?

Clown.
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: ice grillin you on August 28, 2015, 10:15:04 AM
I hate to say it but a hot blonde chick and a goofy fat cameraman getting murdered might just do more to sway people on their views on guns than a school full of little kids, and certainly more than some black kid on a sidewalk in Baltimore or a teenager in a townhouse parking lot in Florida.

if sandy hook didnt change anything then nothing will....everyone said that was the tipping point and the beginning of an era of gun control...in reality it was the end....the hope of any real gun control legislation died with all those kids

your posts are two different things, in the first one you talk about vigils and tributes, like the people who are mourning the two victims should not' be.

the station....family...friends...community - fine

moments of silence at sporting events...random people changing their twitter profile pics to a picture of the two victims...etc - NO

if the country is going to mourn these people this way then do it for everyone ...or at least for ANYONE else...

and the media is not that different from the average person...it fun to bash them for coverage and often its warranted but they are only airing what will get the average 30-55 year old to watch
Title: Re: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: ice grillin you on August 28, 2015, 10:17:52 AM
have a mass shooting that cancels a NFL sunday...gun control will be instituted by lunch on Monday

(http://exclaim.ca/images/black137.jpg)
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: MDS on August 28, 2015, 10:47:15 AM
its a big deal for 2 reasons

1- there was video of it. sort of like ray rice...people didnt take domestic violence seriously until they saw video of a famous person doing it.

2-it happened to the actual media (even though, in reality, it was but a simple workplace feud). it gives media people a chance to talk about themselves, how important their job is and now how evidently dangerous it is. sandy hook didnt hit home. the multiple movie theater shootings didnt hit home. but a cameraman and reporter getting gunned down did.

im hoping that essentially having video of a murder will be like the ray rice deal and get the country to wake up to the reality of the situation, but really this thing is going to go away by next week because donald trump will call mexicans lazy or something. and then, at some point in september, another horrible act of gun violence will occur and we'll "pray" and "mourn" for the victims and bla bla bla.
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: Don Ho on August 28, 2015, 05:59:22 PM
Black Sunday!  Good one IGY!  NFL actually allowed them to film on the field during the first Dallas/Pittsburgh Super Bowl.  Robert Shaw roaming the sidelines as Hollywood Henderson took the opening kickoff on a reverse and returned it past mid field. 
Title: Re: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: General_Failure on August 28, 2015, 06:52:41 PM
the station....family...friends...community - fine

moments of silence at sporting events...random people changing their twitter profile pics to a picture of the two victims...etc - NO

if the country is going to mourn these people this way then do it for everyone ...or at least for ANYONE else...

and the media is not that different from the average person...it fun to bash them for coverage and often its warranted but they are only airing what will get the average 30-55 year old to watch

(http://i.imgur.com/91sn32Q.jpg)
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on August 29, 2015, 02:33:49 AM
http://abc13.com/961336/

Harris Co Sherriff Deputy shot and killed while filling up his patrol car
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: Don Ho on August 29, 2015, 04:17:03 AM
Having a few Primo Beers, watching local high school football on a Friday night.  Nice to get away form this shtein for a few hours.  Go Humans Go!
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: Rome on August 29, 2015, 09:32:02 AM
http://abc13.com/961336/

Harris Co Sherriff Deputy shot and killed while filling up his patrol car

The outrage being expressed sounds quite a bit like when an unarmed black man gets murdered by a white cop.

Sad either way.
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on August 29, 2015, 09:33:27 AM
Yeah I just landed back in Houston and now I'm seeing that the HCSO hasn't confirmed an arrest despite the media saying they nailed him and showed pics of the trucks and said his mom helped turn him in.
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: Rome on August 29, 2015, 09:44:33 AM
In that story Moms insisted he was with her at home.
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on August 29, 2015, 10:50:00 AM
Must've updated it since I posted.
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on August 31, 2015, 07:38:02 PM
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/shannon-j-miles-suspect-in-killing-houston-area-officer-darren-goforth-mental-evaluation/

Wonder how he got the gun?
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on September 01, 2015, 08:36:31 PM
http://www.khou.com/story/news/local/2015/09/01/teen-accidentally-shoots-self-while-taking-selfie/71546868/

Lolol
Title: Re: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: Sgt PSN on September 01, 2015, 10:54:16 PM
One time I tried shooting my gun and accidentally took a picture with my phone.  The struggle is real. 
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: hunt on September 14, 2015, 01:02:54 PM
http://news.yahoo.com/mississippis-delta-state-university-locked-down-amid-active-161913939.html

another campus shooting...not many details yet.
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on September 14, 2015, 06:33:42 PM
Details?

Not the guns fault because people kill people.
Title: Re: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: General_Failure on September 26, 2015, 04:09:04 PM
White man trying to buy gun shoots self in penis — blames it on a black guy (http://www.rawstory.com/2015/09/white-man-trying-to-buy-gun-shoots-self-in-penis-blames-it-on-a-black-guy/)

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A South Dakota man is currently in custody after telling police officers he was shot in the penis by a “black guy” when he actually shot himself while attempting to purchase a gun illegally, reports the Argus Leader.

Convicted felon Donald Anthony Watson, 43, was admitted to a local emergency room late at night on Sept. 6  for a gunshot wound to his penis, and told local law enforcement that he had been shot during a botched robbery.

According to the arrest report, Watson said he was shot by “a black guy (who) tried to rob” him while he was taking out the trash at his apartment.
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on October 05, 2015, 09:10:33 PM
http://wate.com/2015/10/04/8-yr-old-girl-dies-in-white-pine-shooting-police-arrest-11-yr-old-suspect/

What the farging farg
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: Rome on October 06, 2015, 06:26:07 AM
Absolutely pathetic.  Put the father of that little shteinhead in prison forever.
Title: Re: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: General_Failure on October 06, 2015, 10:42:15 PM
One man injured after carjacking, shooting at gas station (http://www.khou.com/story/news/2015/09/27/one-man-injured-after-carjacking-shooting-at-gas-station/72923278/)

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Houston police responded to a shooting call around 11:15 p.m. Saturday at a Valero gas station on Jensen Drive at Reid Street in north Houston. Officials say two men jumped another man in the gas station parking lot and took the victim's Chevrolet pickup truck. Police say a witness then pulled out a gun and began shooting at the suspects, accidentally hitting the carjacking victim in the head.

The victim was transported to a nearby hospital where he remains in stable condition. Police say the witness who shot at the suspects picked up shell casings and left the scene. Police found the stolen pickup truck about a mile down the road but are still searching for the suspects.
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on October 06, 2015, 11:05:11 PM
Houston, baby. The Wild West.
Title: Re: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: General_Failure on October 19, 2015, 07:21:26 PM
Police: Man wields brick; pastor wields gun (http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation-now/2015/10/18/police-man-wields-brick-pastor-wields-gun/74199778/)

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A Detroit church service turned tragic Sunday when a man with a brick went after the pastor, but likely didn’t anticipate what would follow: the pastor pulled out a semiautomatic pistol and fatally shot the man, police said.

“They knew each other and had some type of problem before,”  Assistant Detroit Police Chief Steve Dolunt said of the pastor and the victim.  “When I got there, the body had already been moved. The pastor was in custody. We had the gun.”

The shooting happened at about 1:45 p.m., shortly after a 1:30 p.m. service got underway at the City of God storefront church on Grand River Avenue near Lahser, Dolunt said. The man with the brick never actually made it into the church, but went after the pastor in the vestibule, he said.

The pastor, whom Dolunt did not have a name for, responded with gunfire, shooting the man multiple times, including in the chest. The man died a short while later at Botsford Hospital.

According to Dolunt, a previous police report had been filed against the church intruder involving threats.
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on October 19, 2015, 08:04:47 PM
Armed pastors and preachers is the way to go obvs
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: Rome on October 19, 2015, 08:46:44 PM
You're right.  The preacher should have let the guy bash his farging brains in.  That's what Jesus would have done.
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on October 19, 2015, 08:55:33 PM
Amen!
Title: Re: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: Diomedes on October 19, 2015, 11:51:53 PM
Jesus wouldn't have missed.  One shot.
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on October 20, 2015, 12:34:34 AM
Jesus was a sniper.
Title: Re: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: General_Failure on October 20, 2015, 08:27:49 AM
No, Jesus was a carpenter. Did you even read the book?
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on October 20, 2015, 11:35:58 AM
A carpenter who was a sniper

It would make a good movie. Hollywood puts shtein out nowadays anyways...I'll get working on the script.
Title: Re: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: Eagaholic on October 20, 2015, 11:57:59 PM
You can call it The Return of Savior Onasis. It's from the Greek biblical translation.

Btw, did killing that one guy at church qualify as a mass shooting?
Title: Re: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: General_Failure on October 21, 2015, 08:29:06 AM
Not if it wasn't a catholic church.
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on October 21, 2015, 09:58:34 AM
hahaha...noice
Title: Re: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: smeags on October 21, 2015, 10:20:24 AM
jesus wouldn't use a gun, he'd fire mind bullets.
Title: Re: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: General_Failure on October 21, 2015, 01:18:23 PM
That's telekinesis, smeags.
Title: Re: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: Eagaholic on October 27, 2015, 12:46:24 PM
http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/offbeat/dog-named-trigger-shoots-owner/ar-BBmsHTU?ocid=mailsignout
Title: Re: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: smeags on October 27, 2015, 12:51:40 PM
That's telekinesis, smeags.

haa, love the tenacious d reference.
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: Susquehanna Birder on November 02, 2015, 01:33:28 PM
I doubt this place will be robbed again anytime soon.[/ur]
 (http://www.pennlive.com/midstate/index.ssf/2015/11/reading_robbers_shot_by_conven.html#incart_river_home)
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: smeags on November 02, 2015, 01:41:35 PM
I doubt this place will be robbed again anytime soon.[/ur]
 (http://www.pennlive.com/midstate/index.ssf/2015/11/reading_robbers_shot_by_conven.html#incart_river_home)

reading is such a nice place. I actually just got back from doing a deposition there today. 20yrs since ive been and it would be cool if I never went back.
Title: Re: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: General_Failure on November 24, 2015, 08:31:16 PM
Missing Minutes From Security Video Raises Questions (http://www.nbcchicago.com/investigations/laquan-mcdonald-investigation-305105631.html)

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Chicago police officers deleted footage from a security camera at a Burger King restaurant located fewer than 100 yards from where 17-year old Laquan McDonald was shot and killed, according to a Chicago-area district manager for the food chain.

McDonald was shot 16 times by a Chicago police officer on the night of October 20, 2014. Nine of the shots struck McDonald in the back, according to the Medical Examiners report.


"We had no idea they were going to sit there and delete files," Darshane said. "I mean we were just trying to help the police officers."

The missing video, all sides agree, would not have shown the actual shooting but attorney’s for McDonald’s family contend it could have shown events leading up to the shooting.

"Our first time down at the Burger King restaurant when we started talking to employees, watching the Burger King video, when we realized video had been deleted, or is missing, absolutely we knew something was up," said Jeff Neslund.

While the video from the Burger King is missing, the shooting of McDonald was captured on a police dashboard camera. That video has not been made public.
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on November 27, 2015, 02:14:02 PM
Reported active shooter at a Planned Parenthood in Colorado

Title: Re: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: Sgt PSN on November 27, 2015, 02:27:28 PM
I wonder which Muslim country he's from.
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on November 27, 2015, 02:29:17 PM
Rightwingastan
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: MDS on November 27, 2015, 03:34:43 PM
america deserves donald trump
Title: Re: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: Sgt PSN on November 27, 2015, 03:41:34 PM
Rightwingastan

Nice.
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on November 27, 2015, 07:05:49 PM
Dude is still holed up at the clinic

But let's talk about th scary Muslims
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on November 27, 2015, 09:38:26 PM
http://abc13.com/1102019/

Put your cigarette out please sir

No

Shoots waitress in head
Title: Re: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: Sgt PSN on November 27, 2015, 10:08:28 PM
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Waffle House issued a statement, saying its prayers are with the waitress's family, friends, co-workers and customers.

That'll make everything all better.
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: ice grillin you on November 28, 2015, 12:04:00 AM
I have limited tv where I am but as far as I can tell online no republican candidate has directly spoken on the PP shooting have they?
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on November 28, 2015, 12:28:15 AM
Nope - nothing that I've heard

Although Fox News blamed it on Obama. So there's that
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: ice grillin you on November 28, 2015, 12:29:35 AM
did they really

not Carla Fiorina and the numerous other zealots who inspire people like the dood today
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on November 28, 2015, 12:38:42 AM
They had Bo Dietl on and he started ranting and the hosts went right with it

The shooter is a 59yr old white guy. Can't wait to hear his history.

And I'm betting there'll be no peep from the righties on this. But the bodies were still leaking fluids on the streets in Paris and they were ranting. Especially Rubio's "this is good" shtein
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on November 28, 2015, 12:49:25 AM
http://www.occupydemocrats.com/police-fox-news-is-lying-planned-parenthood-was-target-of-attack-not-a-bank-2/
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: ice grillin you on November 28, 2015, 12:57:05 AM
(http://www.occupydemocrats.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/11/awful.png)
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on November 28, 2015, 01:04:35 AM
sickening isn't it?

But let's get more guns on the streets and by golly don't let those brown people into the homeland!
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on November 28, 2015, 05:55:17 PM
@WesleyLowery: As NBC reporting, source tells me PP shooting politically motivated. After being arrested suspect said to officers: "no more baby parts"
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: ice grillin you on November 28, 2015, 06:04:16 PM
like I said Fiorina and her bullshtein rhetoric is just as responsible as this psycho....this is another matthew sheppherd

the farging hate mongering has consequences....these republican candidates are no different than isis' social media shtein
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: MDS on November 28, 2015, 06:10:35 PM
5 seconds ago i was looking on fox news and they were saying this was simply a part of same rampage....like he stopped off first at the bank

then he went to PP
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on November 28, 2015, 06:30:15 PM
Yep this is squarely on the GOP candidates particularly Fiorina for her comments about the PP abortions and videos.

And Fox is still pushing the bank thing?! That was debunked yesterday. He'll Chase themselves even had to tweet that it was false
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on November 29, 2015, 09:06:57 PM
http://thinkprogress.org/lgbt/2015/11/29/3726311/ted-cruz-planned-parenthood-shooting-transgendered/

Ted Cruz speaks
Title: Re: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: General_Failure on November 30, 2015, 05:41:48 PM
Men who shot Black Lives Matter protesters left clues on 4Chan and slew of incriminating texts (http://www.rawstory.com/2015/11/men-who-shot-black-lives-matter-protesters-left-clues-on-4chan-and-slew-of-incriminating-texts/)

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“Investigators have viewed a 4Chan website email string where participants discussed going to the BLM protest to ‘stir things up’ and ’cause commotion,'” the documents reported. “Participants were encouraged to dress normal and look like the protesters but were told to ‘feel free to carry.'”

Investigators also watched the video made by Scarsella and an acquaintance in which they repeatedly used the N-word and urged viewers to “stay white” as they discussed their plan to disrupt the BLM protests.

On Nov. 24, the day after the shooting, officers arrested Scarsella and viewed the contents of his phone, which showed he was in the area of the shooting when the events took place. The phone’s messages showed extensive text correspondence between the four defendants outlining details of their plans to disrupt the protest and their communications after they shot five protesters.

The phone also contained photos of the defendants wearing camouflage gear and posing with Confederate flags and numerous weapons. Witnesses described the shooters in the Nov. 23 confrontation as dressed on camouflage gear and hiding their faces.
Title: Re: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: General_Failure on December 01, 2015, 01:30:11 PM
Chicago Police Chief Garry McCarthy Fired in Wake of Laquan McDonald Video (https://news.vice.com/article/chicago-police-chief-garry-mccarthy-fired-in-wake-of-laquan-mcdonald-video?utm_source=vicenewstwitter)

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Hours before the video's release last Tuesday, Officer Jason Van Dyke was charged with first-degree murder. The video, which shows Van Dyke shooting McDonald 16 times in the middle of a street as he walks away from the officer, sparked protests across Chicago while raising questions about why it took over a year for the footage to become public.
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on December 06, 2015, 08:53:13 PM
http://www.upworthy.com/instead-of-arguing-about-guns-on-twitter-neil-degrasse-tyson-just-laid-out-the-numbers?g=2&c=ufb2

Well then...
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: ice grillin you on December 06, 2015, 09:08:01 PM
http://www.upworthy.com/instead-of-arguing-about-guns-on-twitter-neil-degrasse-tyson-just-laid-out-the-numbers?g=2&c=ufb2

Well then...

never knew this...thanks for posting
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on December 06, 2015, 09:10:03 PM
I didn't either but I'm saving it and will use it often

Really eye opening

I'd fap if the repubs were presented with these in a debate
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: ice grillin you on December 06, 2015, 09:12:13 PM
omg I was being snarky...its only been posted 4 billion times in one form or another for the last 25 years...nothing is going to change...ever

we are a country made up of largely gun loving uneducated neanderthals
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on December 06, 2015, 09:32:51 PM
I'd never seen it broken down like that

Snark failure
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: ice grillin you on December 06, 2015, 09:36:50 PM
the war deaths stat is basically the gun control internet version of the cat playing the piano
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on December 06, 2015, 09:54:14 PM
Link?
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on December 09, 2015, 06:50:38 PM
http://gawker.com/gun-rights-groups-to-hold-fake-mass-shooting-at-ut-this-1747134121?utm_campaign=socialflow_gawker_twitter&utm_source=gawker_twitter&utm_medium=socialflow&utm_expid=66866090-68.NesmD4FSTbKroxp5qEjtVQ.0


Good idea!
Title: Re: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: General_Failure on December 14, 2015, 07:22:04 PM
Family of man shot by Paradise police officer speaks out (http://www.actionnewsnow.com/news/family-of-man-shot-by-paradise-police-officer-speaks-out/)

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Thomas was shot in the neck by Paradise Police Officer Patrick Feaster after he was involved in a rollover crash on Thanksgiving.

The crash happened as Thomas and his wife, 23-year-old Darien Ehorn were leaving the Canteena Bar in Paradise. Ehorn was ejected from the car and died on the scene.

Officer Feaster saw the crash, and according to Butte County District Attorney Mike Ramsey, when Thomas “popped” out of the SUV, Feaster drew his gun and “accidently” fired.

Thomas was shot in the C7 and T1 vertebrae and could be paralyzed for the rest of his life. He remains in stable condition at Enloe Medical Center.
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on December 24, 2015, 03:22:41 PM
Another public shooting

At a mall in NC

Tis the season to be merry!

Surprised the NRA isn't pushing a last minute gift idea in the wake of this
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on February 21, 2016, 12:55:29 AM
Saturday night in the good ol USA

Someone is driving around Kalamazoo Michigan shooting people

Six dead so far

Guns


Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: smeags on February 22, 2016, 09:20:32 AM
Saturday night in the good ol USA

Someone is driving around Kalamazoo Michigan shooting people

Six dead so far

Guns

Ubers
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on April 08, 2016, 11:57:23 AM
Lackland AFB in SA...sounds like a murder suicide. Soldier apparently killed his superior and then offed himself.

shtein doesn't even register anymore.

My ex texted me to ask about the Texas shooting.

Welcome to the USA where this is commonplace.
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: smeags on April 08, 2016, 01:58:20 PM
soa  lil full metal jacket action going on.
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on May 02, 2016, 06:47:37 PM
http://m.nydailynews.com/news/national/armed-good-samaritan-shot-dead-texas-making-citizen-arrest-article-1.2622117?utm_content=buffer2dc2e&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter.com&utm_campaign=NYDailyNewsTw

So about those armed good guys?

This ones dead.

Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: ice grillin you on May 02, 2016, 06:57:25 PM
bad guy with gun gets last word
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on May 18, 2016, 12:23:37 AM
http://www.khou.com/mb/news/crime/man-shot-outside-gym-in-galleria-area/199429172

Caps a dude and is on film running away and then her car is on video too

Gotta be a domestic thing
Title: Re: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: Eagaholic on May 18, 2016, 12:47:50 AM
http://m.nydailynews.com/news/national/armed-good-samaritan-shot-dead-texas-making-citizen-arrest-article-1.2622117?utm_content=buffer2dc2e&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter.com&utm_campaign=NYDailyNewsTw

So about those armed good guys?

This ones dead.


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“The good Samaritan tried to stop him, pointed his firearm at the suspect, told him to stop,” Cook said. “Suspect exited his vehicle and exchanged gunfire with the good Samaritan, killing unfortunately the good Samaritan.”
So the hero was, like, A Good Samaritan. Because he got a gun and went after the suspect who was already fleeing in his car instead of maybe seeing if the lady who was shot in the leg needed help. Idiots, the lot of them. Also, I never read the NY Daily News before. They need to be Good Samaritaned.
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on May 29, 2016, 12:16:26 PM
Active shooter(s) in a neighborhood not too far away from me

News updates have it that it's been going on for a half an hour and a gas station has been set on fire. Posters on Houston's Reddit forum saying that the shooter(s) are driving around just unloading
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on May 29, 2016, 12:22:59 PM
https://twitter.com/faisal7htx/status/736947329178144769

Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: Rome on May 29, 2016, 02:42:18 PM
That feed is nauseating. 
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on May 29, 2016, 02:48:21 PM
Eight shot

One shooter dead and another wounded
One civilian dead and others wounded but not life threatening
Two cops shot one in the vest and one in the hand

Helicopter took five rounds
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on May 29, 2016, 04:59:38 PM
HPD unsure if second shooter is suspect or armed citizen. That person is in hospital with multiple gunshot wounds.

Now this would make it a juicy story. Armed citizen tries to play cop and doesn't realize that the real cops have no way to discern that he's not a bad guy and gets shot by the cops
Title: Re: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: General_Failure on May 29, 2016, 08:02:03 PM
Shame there's no way he could earn some kind of badge to identify him as one or the other.
Title: Re: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: General_Failure on June 01, 2016, 05:56:04 PM
Speaking of identified shooters, Plainclothes officer who killed Florida church drummer is charged with manslaughter, attempted murder (https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-nation/wp/2016/06/01/plainclothes-officer-who-killed-florida-church-drummer-charged-with-manslaughter-attempted-murder/).

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Charging documents released Wednesday by prosecutors state that: According to an audio recording of the interaction, at no point did Raja identify himself to Jones as a police officer; he was not wearing his tactical vest identifying himself as a police officer; and Raja’s vehicle was not immediately distinguishable as a police vehicle. Prosecutors say Raja drove his unmarked van the wrong way down the interstate off-ramp in order to confront Jones about 3:15 a.m.

“A reasonable person can only assume the thoughts and concerns Corey Jones was experiencing as he saw the van approaching him at that hour of the morning,” prosecutors wrote in the charging documents. “Raja stopped his van at a perpendicular angle directly in front of Jones’s vehicle. … At no time during the recording did Raja say he was a police officer.”

According to the transcript included in the charging documents, Raja asked Jones several times if he was “good,” before transitioning to demanding he put his hands in the air.

Raja: You good?

Jones: I’m good.

Raja: Really?

Jones: Yeah, I’m good.

Raja: Really?

Jones: Yeah.

Raja: Get your f—ing hands up! Get your f—ing hands up!

Jones: Hold on!

Raja: Get your f—ing hands up! Drop!

Then, according to the documents, Raja fired three shots in rapid succession, prompting an AT&T call center operator who had been on the phone with Jones as he waited for the tow truck to exclaim “Oh my gosh!” Then, 10 seconds later, Raja fired three more shots.

Prosecutors say that Raja then called 911, about 30 seconds after firing his last round.
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on June 01, 2016, 06:52:03 PM
Damn I hadn't heard of that case. Good that they charged the dickhead
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: Rome on June 01, 2016, 07:24:23 PM
98% certainty he gets off.
Title: Re: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: General_Failure on June 01, 2016, 07:46:16 PM
Oh, he definitely got off on it.
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: ice grillin you on June 05, 2016, 11:18:02 AM
official numbers are out and 64 people were shot in Chicago during memorial day weekend
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: MDS on June 05, 2016, 12:46:08 PM
unless you die via a suicide bomb in the name of allah, it doesnt matter
Title: Re: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: Diomedes on June 05, 2016, 02:57:05 PM
http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/maryland/dan-rodricks/bs-md-rodricks-0605-20160604-column.html

If we treated gun crimes seriously, this guy would have been in jail right now, rather than shooting up a memorial day picnic. 

We need to put people who carry guns illegally, use them illegally, possess them illegally, etc. in jail for long long time.

That is all.
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: ice grillin you on June 05, 2016, 02:59:45 PM
Quote
David Warren is a member of the 10 Grand Club in Baltimore. That's a club of people who consider themselves hit men
Title: Re: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: General_Failure on June 22, 2016, 11:55:33 PM
These pitiful shootings barely even register as news. Only a handful of people were shot, and nobody died. Meh.

Gunfire injures child, 3 adults in Willingboro (http://www.courierpostonline.com/story/news/crime/2016/06/21/gunfire-injures-4-people-willingboro/86175764/)
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Police described the victims as a 19-year-old woman who was shot in the foot and later transferred to Cooper University Hospital in Camden; a 22-year-old man shot in the leg; a 20-year-old woman whose leg was grazed; and a 12-year-old child who suffered a graze wound to the arm.

3 struck by gunfire in Burlington (http://www.courierpostonline.com/story/news/crime/2016/06/20/burlington-shooting-injures-three/86133314/)
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NJ.com reports police say officers were called to the scene Sunday night in Burlington and found someone suffering from a gunshot wound. That person was taken to a Willingboro hospital with injuries not considered to be life-threatening.
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: Susquehanna Birder on June 23, 2016, 12:14:28 PM
Mass shooting in Germany today. The posturing will continue.
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: ice grillin you on June 23, 2016, 12:19:46 PM
I think the cat in Germany just took hostages but no one was shot
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: Susquehanna Birder on June 23, 2016, 12:21:15 PM
The first thing I read was that he opened fire and there are at least 50 people injured.
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: Susquehanna Birder on June 23, 2016, 12:23:09 PM
Now I'm reading that police shot him, and that the injuries might be due to police tear gas exposure.
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: Geowhizzer on June 23, 2016, 12:23:38 PM
Sounds like the guy fired in the air and then used tear gas.  25 reported injured, but they could be from the effects of the tear gas.

CNN (http://www.cnn.com/2016/06/23/europe/germany-cinema-attack/index.html)
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: Susquehanna Birder on June 23, 2016, 12:31:46 PM
Early descriptions said he was "heavily armed." I'm curious to see if he was, or if that was just knee-jerk speculation.
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: MDS on June 23, 2016, 06:49:44 PM
whats your point...gun violence happens everywhere? omg

rape happens everyone, too. should just throw those laws out, they dont work.
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: Susquehanna Birder on June 23, 2016, 07:01:12 PM
Nothing more than that the twitterati these days, regardless of the facts, jumps to conclusions.
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: MDS on June 23, 2016, 07:05:34 PM
so guns good?
Title: Re: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: Diomedes on June 23, 2016, 08:08:44 PM
You can't kill fifty people with a 1776 gun.  The gun nuts would tell us that the law was intended to apply as freely to a blunderbuss as to a modern semi-automatic assault rife.  The framers didn't even have revolvers.  They could not have imagined the weaponry that would be invented, and made available to effectiverly any and all persons in the Unites States (sidebar to the Framers: slaves are free, women can vote too, sorry for the bad news).

What really tells the lie to me is that the NRA is not openly advocating for legalization of flamethrowers, hand grenades, RPGs, and fully auto machine guns.  Why not?  Because they are actually pro-gun control themselves, just at a different level than everyone else.

I'd have no problem with our current gun laws if the guns available were 1776 tech.  That could be a good thing, on balance.

Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: Geowhizzer on June 23, 2016, 09:05:26 PM
Personally, I won't be satisfied until I have one of these bad boys in my back swamp yard.

(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_4AsDU_uG5vU/TCbrQikCWDI/AAAAAAAACXA/lfbx3VtRCVY/s1600/titan-missile.jpg)
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on June 24, 2016, 08:54:07 PM
http://abc13.com/1400653/

Jesus
Title: Re: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: General_Failure on June 24, 2016, 09:06:35 PM
You were warned about Reefer Madness, Colorado.
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on June 26, 2016, 08:37:13 AM
http://abc13.com/1400653/

Jesus

https://www.buzzfeed.com/davidmack/a-texas-mom-shot-dead-her-daughters-in-the-street-before-she?bffbnews&utm_term=.yi24Eg0dN1#.dhgLDpadQN
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: Rome on June 26, 2016, 08:40:10 AM
Good riddance.
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: smeags on June 27, 2016, 08:56:33 AM
more pot, less gun violence.
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on June 28, 2016, 05:35:24 PM
Active shooter in Denver

Wonder where the law abiding citizen with a gun is to stop this madness!
Title: Re: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: Diomedes on July 02, 2016, 09:26:02 PM
several possible places to park the demise of Zurlon Tipton, Jr. --I almost threw igy a bone and dropped this into the Kanye thread as the first death all year that might not actually be better than Kanye---but in the end I decided he falls best here, because this is what we can expect when we allow what are basically instruments of war to be carried by common citizens

http://www.mlive.com/news/detroit/index.ssf/2016/06/police_report_911_call_reveal.html
Title: Re: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: Diomedes on July 02, 2016, 09:27:47 PM
Oh and, good riddance.

I have no love for dudes who threaten people with guns.  farg 'em all.

Too scared to fight, bitches all.
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: ice grillin you on July 05, 2016, 08:17:07 AM
for the record if kanye died in the next hour I wouldn't even blink...hes just made better music than prince...fact

that is all
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: smeags on July 05, 2016, 08:21:05 AM
look at you, dangling the bait.  :-D
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: ice grillin you on July 05, 2016, 08:35:47 AM
what is "bait"

I don't understand neanderthal cranial lump slangs so you must explain what "bait" is...to me that's something you probably use in your bear traps every weekend...I don't know how it applies to dio in this case...how am I "baiting" him?
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: Susquehanna Birder on July 05, 2016, 10:29:41 AM
look at you, dangling the bait.  :-D

Would you say that he is a master baiter?
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: Rome on July 05, 2016, 10:54:24 AM
I would but I'm addicted to puns, so...
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: ice grillin you on July 08, 2016, 02:31:57 PM
ive always said the best path towards meaningful gun control in this country would be to legally arm as many minorities as possible

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2016/07/08/during-deadly-dallas-shooting-confusion-swirled-around-armed-man-carrying-a-rifle/?postshare=2851467997712125&tid=ss_tw
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on July 08, 2016, 02:35:31 PM
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/dallas-shooter-micah-xavier-johnson-decorated-army-veteran-article-1.2704275?utm_content=bufferf11d4&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=NYDailyNewsTw&utm_source=twitter.com

Had an SKS semi

And the footage of him shooting the cop in the back and then pumping him with a couple more is chilling
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on August 02, 2016, 10:00:01 AM
Yesterday was the beginning of a new Texas law that allows college kids to bring guns onto the campus provided they have their CHL

Yeah this is gonna be good
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: smeags on August 02, 2016, 10:45:57 AM
Yesterday was the beginning of a new Texas law that allows college kids to bring guns onto the campus provided they have their CHL

Yeah this is gonna be good

well at least now whenever a scorned college kid goes off they can rest easy that they can bring their gun to the campus legally.
Title: Re: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: General_Failure on August 24, 2016, 06:03:52 PM
Black man, 48, is shot in his home by veteran Indianapolis cop after he called police for help with robbery (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3755678/Black-man-48-shot-home-veteran-Indianapolis-cop-called-police-help-robbery.html?ito=social-twitter_dailymailus)

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An Indianapolis cop shot a 48-year-old black man in his own home Tuesday after the man called out police to respond to a robbery, authorities say.

Carl Williams called police out to his home at 3636 Foxtail Drive to deal with an armed robber who had threatened his wife with a gun and tried to steal her car at around 4:30am.

Officer Christopher Mills responded with his partner - but when he saw Williams, Mills shot him, Indianapolis Metropolitan Police Department (IMPD) said.
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on August 24, 2016, 08:41:51 PM
He totally deserved it!
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: Geowhizzer on August 24, 2016, 10:00:16 PM
He totally deserved it!

Well, he did open his own garage door...
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on September 03, 2016, 01:04:29 AM
http://www.gq.com/story/inside-federal-bureau-of-way-too-many-guns

Wow I never knew they couldn't use computers and there wasn't a centralized database

NRA and dipshtein LaPierre doing what they do
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: AO1 on September 12, 2016, 01:56:55 PM
http://6abc.com/news/police-toddler-dead-after-accidental-shooting-in-bucks-co/1508161/

2 year old accidentally shoots himself in Bucks County
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: smeags on September 12, 2016, 03:40:24 PM
obviously it was the gun's fault.
Title: Re: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: Diomedes on September 12, 2016, 05:14:10 PM
put the gun owner in jail for 10 years no parole

Title: Re: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: Sgt PSN on September 12, 2016, 09:04:54 PM
https://www.google.com/amp/www.nbcphiladelphia.com/news/local/Shooting-Reported-at-Valley-Forge-Military-Academy-393173521.html%3famp=y?client=safari

My alma mater is gangsta as farg.
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on September 12, 2016, 09:50:35 PM
Dat bubble wrap tho

Rat a tat tat
Title: Re: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: Sgt PSN on September 13, 2016, 01:24:42 AM
Funny thing is it wasn't event at VF....the 911 call came from some jesus freak next door at Eastern (formerly Cabrini College)
Title: Re: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: Geowhizzer on September 13, 2016, 07:03:18 AM
Funny thing is it wasn't event at VF....the 911 call came from some jesus freak next door at Eastern (formerly Cabrini College)

Separate schools.  Cabrini is Catholic, Eastern is Baptist.
Title: Re: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: Diomedes on September 13, 2016, 07:34:49 AM
Baptists teach things?  Like, Jesus had pet dinosaurs?
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: smeags on September 13, 2016, 08:09:45 AM
(http://vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net/hanna-barbera/images/5/59/Dino2.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20110201133044)
Title: Re: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: Geowhizzer on September 13, 2016, 11:14:15 AM
Baptists teach things?  Like, Jesus had pet dinosaurs?

Not Eastern.  Pretty liberal northeast school by and large. 
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on September 21, 2016, 11:37:56 PM
http://www.post-gazette.com/local/region/2016/09/11/Weirton-fired-officer-who-did-not-fire-at-man-with-gun/stories/201609090080

Wow.
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on September 24, 2016, 03:00:48 AM
http://abcnews.go.com/US/report-active-shooter-mall-burlington-washington/story?id=42321253&cid=abcn_tco

Just another day in the United States of the NRA
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on September 24, 2016, 10:10:20 PM
Sounds like a mass shooting in Bal'mer

8 shot
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on September 26, 2016, 12:02:59 PM
http://abc13.com/news/watch-live-disgruntled-lawyer-injures-9-in-strip-center-shooting/1526685/

Disgruntled lawyer.
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on September 26, 2016, 06:50:35 PM
2600 rounds of ammo and nazi/white supremacist shtein all over his house

Wonder where the good guys with guns were to stop him before the cops had to shoot him?
Title: Re: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: Diomedes on September 28, 2016, 01:38:12 PM
New shooting of unarmed black man.  Dude having a mental break, someone calls for help tells authorities they need help, that man is having mental break, etc.

Cops arrive.  Tell man to take hands out of pockets.  He refuses for a while, then does, holding something, and assumes literally a shooter position, aiming at cops.

Cops shoot.

I don't blame them, either.  What are they supposed to do, assume its not a gun first, then shoot only once shots are fired at them?  In a land with more guns than people?  That's not a reasonable ask of them.

Right?

Or..maybe that's what we have to ask from cops.  Maybe they have to be willing to take a bullet first, rather than deliver one in error?  And if that's what we're asking them to do...can we really expect people to become cops in an armed and literally crazy society?
Title: Re: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: Sgt PSN on September 28, 2016, 01:46:20 PM
Yeah, that's a tough one. If the initial report is true and that's how it went down, then I'd have to side with the cops as well.  Sadly, and we can thank 400+ years of inequality for this, people are still going to ask "what if the guy was white?" and they're not wrong for that either.
Title: Re: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: Diomedes on September 28, 2016, 01:49:11 PM
In this case, the answer is, you have a dead white guy. 
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: ice grillin you on September 28, 2016, 01:54:24 PM
i agree with the skin color part...cops are much more apt to go HAM on a brother

but training and procedure needs to be changed big time...if you have an individual who is solo and cant hurt anyone else then maybe back the farg up barricade yourselves behind your cars and have a conversation to see where it plays out...you dont always need to run up on someone with biscuits out ready to blaze

i dont know how that would have worked in this particular case as i dont know the details outside of hearing a couples seconds about it on radio this morning but it definitely could have been done in the case of the carolina shooting and many many others
Title: Re: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: Sgt PSN on September 28, 2016, 02:12:01 PM
In this case, the answer is, you have a dead white guy. 

In most cases I'd agree.  If dude was white, he'd get shot like 99x out of 100. But the black dude would get shot 100/100.

That said, I still think (based on current info available) that the cops were justified in using deadly force. Like I said, the sad part is that race will still be brought into it because these are situations that black men don't walk away from and have never walked away from.
Title: Re: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: Diomedes on September 28, 2016, 02:26:53 PM
It is true, of course, that black men get shot more readily.  Not arguing otherwise.
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on November 02, 2016, 01:00:00 PM
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/iowa-shooting-suspect-scott-michael-greene-article-1.2855161?utm_content=buffer798d0&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter.com&utm_campaign=NYDailyNewsTw

White dude offed two cops in Iowa apparently over a confederate flag argument.

Being from Iowa and all I can see why he wants to honor his southern heritage
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: smeags on November 02, 2016, 01:07:47 PM
don't farg with Dixie.
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: Rome on November 02, 2016, 02:08:27 PM
Goddamn libtard cops got what they deserve!
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on November 02, 2016, 02:13:31 PM
I was led to believe that BLM and black folks only shot cops.

Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: Rome on November 02, 2016, 02:39:48 PM
Maybe the cops were black?  I'll bet you never even considered that, did you, Tex?
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: ice grillin you on November 02, 2016, 02:40:10 PM
he said he went to the high school football game to rage about all the BLM national anthem protests and brought a confederate flag?
Title: Re: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: Sgt PSN on November 02, 2016, 05:52:56 PM
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/iowa-shooting-suspect-scott-michael-greene-article-1.2855161?utm_content=buffer798d0&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter.com&utm_campaign=NYDailyNewsTw

White dude offed two cops in Iowa apparently over a confederate flag argument.

Being from Iowa and all I can see why he wants to honor his southern heritage


Quote
Thousands more whites fought and died for their freedom. However this is not about the Armed forces, they are cop haters,”

Lol. Let's say we add in the number of confederate soldiers that died to preserve slavery.  Also, since American freedom most certainly has not been attacked since the CRM, I think it's safe to say that no white American soldiers were fighting in any war prior to the CRM so that black people could be free.
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on December 06, 2016, 08:48:39 PM
http://abc13.com/news/texans-could-get-free-concealed-carry-licenses-/1641616/

Oh what a great idea
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on December 10, 2016, 04:52:39 PM
http://www.seattletimes.com/seattle-news/politics/trumpism-is-ascendant-in-olympia/

Oh a great idea here
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on April 08, 2017, 12:08:26 PM
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/nra-staffer-shoots-gun-training-session-group-va-hq-article-1.3032423?utm_content=bufferfc723&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter.com&utm_campaign=NYDailyNewsTw
Title: Re: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: General_Failure on April 12, 2017, 09:59:25 PM
Florida police officer charged for shooting unarmed man who had arms raised (https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-nation/wp/2017/04/12/florida-police-officer-charged-for-shooting-unarmed-man-who-had-arms-raised/?utm_term=.ff7308739f74)

Quote
The shooting in July 2016 was recorded in what became a widely shared viral video, one of many violent encounters between police and black men and boys that have prompted national scrutiny in recent years. This case drew intense widespread attention both due the dramatic footage of the man pleading with officers and what emerged about the other man sitting next to him.

On Wednesday, the Miami-Dade State Attorney’s Office announced that Officer Jonathan Aledda — a SWAT team member who had been commended for his police work — would be charged with one count of attempted manslaughter, a third-degree felony, and one count of culpable negligence, a first-degree misdemeanor.
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on April 13, 2017, 03:52:34 PM
http://www.13wmaz.com/mb/news/teen-accidentally-kills-himself-as-friends-watch-on-instagram-live/430797782

Jesus Christ
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: hbionic on April 13, 2017, 07:02:00 PM
Play____ games, win_____ prizes?
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on April 16, 2017, 09:11:12 PM
Good lord the Cleveland shooting(s)

Facebook live video of a guy killing an old man. Said he killed more too. Still on the loose

I wish I hadn't seen that video. Maybe the NRA and GOP gun nuts need to tho.

Instances like this are when I support the death penalty.
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: MDS on April 16, 2017, 09:15:23 PM
every life is precious
kill him
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: AO1 on April 16, 2017, 09:20:13 PM
All over a farging girl too. What a farging Hoyda.
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on April 16, 2017, 09:21:40 PM
For real? Like she dumped him and he decided to shoot random folks and video it?
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: AO1 on April 16, 2017, 09:26:26 PM
Google Joy Lane
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: hbionic on April 16, 2017, 09:36:09 PM
Definitely not watching that video.

Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on April 16, 2017, 09:38:23 PM
Yes please don't. I didn't know what it was. I saw Cleveland trending and was scrolling through.

It's farging disturbing. And SD was right...bc his ex wife and mom wouldn't call him.

Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on April 17, 2017, 01:49:42 PM
They're searching Fairmont Park for him

Dook is in Philly
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: hbionic on April 18, 2017, 12:24:15 PM
He's dead. Shot himself. Good riddance.
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: AO1 on April 18, 2017, 12:28:04 PM
He's dead. Shot himself. Good riddance.

I'm surprised he had the balls to go through with it.
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: ice grillin you on April 18, 2017, 12:37:24 PM
Dook is in Philly

no
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on April 18, 2017, 01:43:50 PM
Thanks for that breaking news.
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: Tomahawk on April 18, 2017, 03:09:10 PM
Thanks for that breaking news.

Thanks for the erroneous early report
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: ice grillin you on April 18, 2017, 03:49:10 PM
CF is about being first not correct
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on April 18, 2017, 03:51:35 PM
You can thank Action News in PHL for that report
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: MDS on April 18, 2017, 04:22:47 PM
i think the report was that someone spotted someone that may look like him in fairmount park....which means he was there of course
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on April 18, 2017, 05:10:01 PM
Obviously, yes.
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: Tomahawk on May 16, 2017, 07:32:33 PM
I got my FOID card today. Buy some stock in light bulbs because I'm never using a switch again
Title: Re: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: General_Failure on May 16, 2017, 07:34:04 PM
Moneybags over here can afford a lovechild and bullets in this economy?
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: Tomahawk on May 16, 2017, 07:38:12 PM
Not to mention all the light bulbs I'll be going through. And potatoes to get the remnants of the bulb out of the socket.
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on May 16, 2017, 08:02:29 PM
Be a man and shoot the broken bulbs out
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: Tomahawk on May 16, 2017, 08:15:58 PM
What kind of ammo should I use to do that without damaging the socket? 9mm?
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on May 16, 2017, 08:25:24 PM
.22?

Kill the socket too. That socket should've had a gun of its own to protect itself.
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: Tomahawk on May 16, 2017, 08:33:53 PM
Nah...I'll use the potatoes with glass embedded in them to make vodka to serve hbionic so he can toughen up his throat
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on May 16, 2017, 08:37:10 PM
lolol

Touché. Good idea
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: hunt on May 22, 2017, 02:23:13 PM
http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/trophy-hunter-dies-after-wounded-elephant-crushes-him-in-zimbabwe/ar-BBBnAVE?li=BBnbfcL

A big game hunter died Friday in Zimbabwe when a member of his hunting group fired their gun at an elephant striking it and causing it to fall on him.
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on May 22, 2017, 04:05:18 PM
Good riddance
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: Tomahawk on May 22, 2017, 05:17:17 PM
I still haven't bought a gun yet. What kinds should I get? Like you know, I want to shoot lights out because switches are dumb. I'd also like to be able to launch myself in the air Yosemite Sam style.
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on May 28, 2017, 01:10:12 PM
http://www.clarionledger.com/story/news/local/2017/05/28/man-sought-death-lincoln-deputy-multiple-others-allegedly-has-16-year-old-hostage/352133001/

He killed 8

The video of him with the reporter is on there and he talks about how he meant to die by cop but ran out of bullets
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: Rome on May 29, 2017, 06:44:38 AM
Why can't these dopes just insert barrel and pull trigger?
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: Tomahawk on May 29, 2017, 08:33:23 AM
It would be nice if those dopes could get the mental health treatment they need, but then we wouldn't be able to buy guns and drones for our military. Priorities
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: Rome on May 29, 2017, 09:22:05 AM
Not every murderer is mentally ill.  Some of them are just iceholes with access to weapons that cause mass casualties. 
Title: Re: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: Sgt PSN on May 29, 2017, 03:00:17 PM
Not every murderer is mentally ill.  Some of them are just iceholes with access to weapons that cause mass casualties. 

I'd argue the opposite.  I think (or at least I'd like to think) that for a person to take another life (not in self defense) that there has to be mental issues going on.  Even in a "crime of passion" like some dude walking in on his girl getting gangbanged by the gardner, pool boy, and UPS driver, the brain stops functioning properly.  It might only be a temporary condition, but for a few brief moments the train went off the rails. 

I really don't think anyone with a properly functioning brain is actually capable of murder. 
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: Tomahawk on May 29, 2017, 03:05:14 PM
Damn...Sergeant Sassypants is schooling Rome all over the place today
Title: Re: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: General_Failure on May 29, 2017, 03:24:52 PM
You should that him for that service.
Title: Re: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: Sgt PSN on May 29, 2017, 06:21:19 PM
Lol.  Ass. 
Title: Re: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: Diomedes on May 29, 2017, 08:59:07 PM
I thought he had to be dead first?  I'm confused.
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on June 01, 2017, 01:24:23 AM
http://www.fox32chicago.com/news/258154056-story

Ho Lee farg

Bounty hunters track a dude to a dealership outside of Dallas

They go in on him and draw weapons. Fugitive has a weapon. They all killed each other
Title: Re: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: Diomedes on June 01, 2017, 11:54:36 AM
What the farg Texas.
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on June 02, 2017, 11:03:00 PM
http://nypost.com/2017/06/02/teen-gets-gun-as-graduation-gift-accidentally-kills-his-girlfriend/

Should be charged with manslaughter at the very least for this
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on June 28, 2017, 07:40:48 PM
http://www.nbcphiladelphia.com/news/national-international/Teen-YouTuber-Shoots-and-Kills-Boyfriend-in-Video-Stunt-431411663.html?amp=y

Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on July 17, 2017, 10:47:55 PM
http://m.startribune.com/woman-killed-in-officer-involved-shooting-in-south-minneapolis/434782213/#1

Wtf?

Passenger cop blasts the lady through the drivers side window?
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: ice grillin you on July 18, 2017, 05:28:43 AM
yeah I don't get that one....and a white female too...they run out of young black males?
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on July 18, 2017, 03:26:04 PM
Muslim cop named Muhammad shoots a white chick...think he's gonna do some time?
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: AO1 on July 18, 2017, 04:44:20 PM
Depends on if he yelled "Allah Akhbar" before he shot her
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: Geowhizzer on August 24, 2017, 09:58:48 PM
So... my district is considering allowing students to bring their guns to school... (http://www.winknews.com/2017/08/22/lee-county-school-district-to-mull-gun-policy/)

and teachers...
Title: Re: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: Sgt PSN on August 24, 2017, 10:07:15 PM
So... my district is considering allowing students to bring their guns to school... (http://www.winknews.com/2017/08/22/lee-county-school-district-to-mull-gun-policy/)

and teachers...


Quote
But schools would have zero tolerance for any student who takes out a weapon, board member Steven Teuber said, calling the proposal reasonable.

“If you take a gun out, there’s no excuses,” he said.

Lol.  So when some kid opens fire in the parking lot and kills someone, I'm sure the parents of the deceased will be comforted in knowing that the shooter faces a strict zero tolerance policy. 
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: ice grillin you on September 09, 2017, 10:24:27 PM
https://www.yahoo.com/amphtml/news/florida-gun-owners-encouraged-apos-213111921.html
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on September 11, 2017, 06:49:18 PM
http://deadspin.com/nine-people-shot-dead-at-nfl-watch-party-victims-mom-s-1803755916/amp
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: AO1 on September 11, 2017, 06:56:28 PM
http://deadspin.com/nine-people-shot-dead-at-nfl-watch-party-victims-mom-s-1803755916/amp

Serious question J: Do you own a gun? When I was in Dallas we were at a bar and half the people there had guns holstered on their leg or around their waist. I thought the girl I was trying to bang was kidding when she said she was strapped but she pulled her jeans up and there it was. I own 2 guns, I  have an open carry license, but I've never actually left my house with my gun unless it was to go to the range. I feel like if I lived in Texas I'd be armed at all times because that's the norm. Plus if ex husbands show up at least I'd have a fighting chance.
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on September 11, 2017, 07:11:28 PM
I do not own one.

I've come close to buying one and getting my permit just to keep in my truck because of the amount of jacking that happens. I still may do it but I've resisted because I have felt that I didn't want to find myself in a situation where it escalated and guns were used just because people happened to have them. Road rage and someone pulls a gun on me and I shoot them or something similar.

I also am wary of, and many gun nuts like to use this situation as an example to be armed, where something is going down and the "good guy with the gun kills the bad guy with the gun". We have all read the stories about morons drawing down irresponsibly. The adrenaline isn't something they'd be prepared for no matter how much time they spent shooting their little pink pistol at paper targets.

I've been trained and qualified on several weapons when I worked for the state. I carried in public then and was always uneasy with it. Not because I'd have a problem shooting a prisoner or someone coming after me to help an escape but because of the innocent public around.

Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: MDS on September 12, 2017, 09:20:22 AM
like 9 people were shot and killed in plano on sunday and nobody batted an eye

9 farging people.
Title: Re: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: Diomedes on September 12, 2017, 06:11:57 PM
Baltimore City here.  I drove by a murder not three minutes after it happened yesterday on York at 41st or so.  Women draped over the body wailing the most primal "he dead he dead," bored cops just arriving, bystanders with hands over mouths, wide eyed.  About two blocks from where I was working all day on a volunteer in the hood project.

Title: Re: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: ice grillin you on September 12, 2017, 07:42:27 PM
Baltimore City here.  I drove by a murder not three minutes after it happened yesterday on York at 41st or so.  Women draped over the body wailing the most primal "he dead he dead," bored cops just arriving, bystanders with hands over mouths, wide eyed.  About two blocks from where I was working all day on a volunteer in the hood project.

this shtein happens every minute of every day what made Plano different is not that it was ignored it was that it was suburbanites that were killed and it was ignored...guess bad weather takes precedence over even white folk
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on September 12, 2017, 08:03:55 PM
News organizations are narrow minded now

One story and one story only

I want to read more to see how nine people got capped and no one fought back
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: ice grillin you on September 12, 2017, 08:27:15 PM
News organizations are narrow minded now

One story and one story only

I want to read more to see how nine people got capped and no one fought back

cause they were normal decent regular people having a football cookout not a bunch of knuckle dragging john waynes
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: Tomahawk on September 12, 2017, 09:28:04 PM
I don't think you have to be John Wayne to either run or throw brauts at a guy while he's busy shooting a few of your friends.
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on September 12, 2017, 09:39:58 PM
News organizations are narrow minded now

One story and one story only

I want to read more to see how nine people got capped and no one fought back

cause they were normal decent regular people having a football cookout not a bunch of knuckle dragging john waynes

Who said anything about knuckle dragging John Wayne's? Even though multiple firearms were found on the scene - probability says someone other than the shooter was armed - but even if they weren't (or even if they were and did not/could not shoot for whatever reason) I'm just talking about a fight to disarm the shooter.

You've got numbers on your side. I mean if someone is going to try to kill me I'd like to think I'm gonna fight.
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Post by: Tomahawk on September 12, 2017, 10:15:35 PM
Nope...you'd channel 5 and wet the bed
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Post by: ice grillin you on September 12, 2017, 10:21:51 PM
I'm just talking about a fight to disarm the shooter.

You've got numbers on your side. I mean if someone is going to try to kill me I'd like to think I'm gonna fight.

they werent packing around a football camp fire he was....and he had the element of suprise....what the farg you want them to do superman...this isnt die hard its real life
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Post by: Tomahawk on September 12, 2017, 10:24:27 PM
I'm just talking about a fight to disarm the shooter.

You've got numbers on your side. I mean if someone is going to try to kill me I'd like to think I'm gonna fight.

they werent packing around a football camp fire he was

This is Texas...somebody other than the shooter had a gun.

But that's an interesting point: how many were shot in the back vs while charging him
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Post by: ice grillin you on September 12, 2017, 10:29:00 PM
This is Texas...somebody other than the shooter had a gun.

im not saying you are wrong but everything i read says no one did...his ex was a foodie who enjoyed cooking for and drinking wine with her friends...but even if someone was holding if someone walks in and starts blasting first it doesnt matter

thats why good guy with gun rarely ever shoots bad guy with gun...its usually good 5 year son of good father shoots good cousin while playing with gun
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Post by: Sgt PSN on September 12, 2017, 10:39:24 PM
This is Texas...somebody other than the shooter had a gun.

im not saying you are wrong but everything i read says no one did...his ex was a foodie who enjoyed cooking for and drinking wine with her friends...but even if someone was holding if someone walks in and starts blasting first it doesnt matter

This is pretty spot on.  Given the element of surprise, a person can squeeze off at least 6-8 rounds before anyone even has a chance to react.  So a moderately trained/competent shooter within close proximity to his targets can easily kill a half dozen people before they even know what's going on, let alone draw their own pistol and return fire. 
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on September 12, 2017, 10:57:10 PM
This is Texas...somebody other than the shooter had a gun.

im not saying you are wrong but everything i read says no one did...his ex was a foodie who enjoyed cooking for and drinking wine with her friends...but even if someone was holding if someone walks in and starts blasting first it doesnt matter

thats why good guy with gun rarely ever shoots bad guy with gun...its usually good 5 year son of good father shoots good cousin while playing with gun

re: good guy with a gun

That's why I'm not a gun owner as I posted last night. While I am confident in myself and have training I don't want to take that chance. I've never been in that situation and I don't know how I'd react despite my confidence in myself. Adrenaline is a bitch and shooting at a person is way different than a paper target. I couldn't live with myself if I was in a situation and missed the bad guy with a gun and killed some innocent bystander.

Which is why when I see these chicks with their little cute pink pistols squeezing off rounds at shop lifters or brandishing during road rage I get mad. I also can't stand the neckbeard white dudes who think they're showing out by open carrying. Don't like it.

Back to this massacre - there were a lot of people there...more than the nine who were shot. But even if none had a gun (despite reports several firearms were found on scene) I'd still think the whole adrenaline rush of fight or flight kicks in. Like you said they're not in some kumbaya circle so the IT systems analyst (or whatever computer job he held - he wasn't someone with extensive fire arms training) calmly picks off a gathering of people? He wasn't a sniper in some protected nest.

I just can't imagine that no one there, one or two of the men at least, didn't try to charge him. Maybe it wasn't possible. But I'd rather get shot fighting than as a sitting duck. And that's not die hard machismo talking...
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Post by: ice grillin you on September 12, 2017, 11:06:53 PM
my feeling is if you are gonna get got you are gonna get got...99.9% of the time it doesnt matter if you are packing....so why do it...cause there is a much bigger chance you get in a normal argument and shoot someone unnecessarily or shoot an innocent bystander than you shoot someone who is gonna shoot you...or you escalate an everyday argument into madness cause you have a gun

i would say the one difference could be if you are at home and you have a gun in your dresser and you hear someone breaking in....then you can be prepared....but out on the street...it aint gonna do shtein but bad things...and honestly even at home the number skew way towards the tragic than they do killing the random burglar

i dont really feel like arguing about guns because its one of those issues where no one is changing anyones minds and the one side is so far gone that its pointless and im so far to the other extreme (i think they should all be illegal) that its a non starter
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Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on September 12, 2017, 11:14:41 PM
I don't think you'd be arguing with me on guns. I wholly agree with you. Having them can turn a normal encounter into a deadly one. Flip someone the bird in traffic and you'll catch one.

I'm ok with a shotgun at the house or a handgun in the dresser but then you have to worry about kids or domestic arguments.

So if the government wanted to take them all away I'd be just fine with it. That ain't happening so I'd like to see insurance be required along with heavy restrictions and regulations.
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: ice grillin you on September 12, 2017, 11:18:17 PM
i wasnt saying you i was more saying in general its just not something i really feel like getting into ever....even tho i feel incredibly strong about having stricter gun laws...its like abortion...you cant change people minds who base their beliefs on religion and guns for gun people are a religion
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Post by: Sgt PSN on September 12, 2017, 11:30:49 PM
Just out of curiosity, because I don't remember you speaking directly to this before, but with wanting guns banned, is that including cops and military?  I know that in your perfect world, every last gun, grenade, and rocket launcher would be melted down and used to create a 200' tall statue of Buddy Ryan, but seeing as that's definitely never going to happen in the next thousand lifetimes, would I be correct in assuming that your gun ban would primarily be applied to private citizens? 
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Post by: ice grillin you on September 12, 2017, 11:34:15 PM
no...law enforcement obviously needs them...im not some hippy liberal that thinks if guns are banned they will all magically go away

maybe law enforcement reform after gun reform?
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Post by: Tomahawk on September 12, 2017, 11:37:16 PM
If cops need guns, then I need guns #lovemesomekap Cops don't need guns though

https://www.google.com/search?q=do+cops+in+england+have+guns&rlz=1C1NHXL_enUS727US727&oq=do+cops+in+&aqs=chrome.2.69i57j0l5.7144j0j7&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8
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Post by: ice grillin you on September 12, 2017, 11:46:26 PM
cops needs guns like countries need nuclear weapons for deterrance and protection...but they need to be better trained and prepared for when and how to use them...there should be less North Korea cops on the street and more India cops
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Post by: Tomahawk on September 13, 2017, 12:13:45 AM
lol I can dig it. But then you'd have to pay cops more and pay more overall for training and what not. America, purportedly the richest country in the world, does not have those kinds of resources because nukes.
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Post by: MDS on September 13, 2017, 10:10:36 AM
if nobody has a gun then cops wont need guns...my hope would be the general cop walking down the street wouldnt have one but youd still have trained swat teams that could be called in to handle some kind of crazy situation

of course this will never happen. its always going to be super easy to get a gun and every week people will die from gun violence. on and on it will go. forever and ever. hopefully you and yours dont get one.
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Post by: Geowhizzer on September 13, 2017, 10:57:36 AM
For any of this to happen, the second amendment would have to be repealed.  Or at the very least the interpretation of the amendment would have to change greatly.

Wouldn't it be funny if that happened during the reign of Der Trumper?
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Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on September 13, 2017, 07:31:13 PM
Civil War II if they try to take away the gunzzz
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: Tomahawk on September 14, 2017, 09:29:34 AM
https://www.washingtonpost.com/amphtml/news/morning-mix/wp/2017/09/13/homeless-man-asked-woman-to-move-porsche-so-he-could-sleep-then-she-shot-him-police-say/

I bet she was perioding
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: ice grillin you on September 14, 2017, 01:03:09 PM
in the old days she would have just swung her purse at him
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: Tomahawk on September 22, 2017, 06:31:07 PM
http://www.pjstar.com/news/20170922/peaceful-protest-as-family-of-police-shooting-victim-ask-why

If you don't want to get shot, when the police come to arrest you after robbing a bank, you probably shouldn't go out the front door with a gun.
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on October 10, 2017, 12:01:05 AM
http://www.latimes.com/nation/nationnow/la-na-texas-tech-20171009-story,amp.html

Gunzzzz
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: Tomahawk on October 31, 2017, 01:02:00 AM
I googled "best gun for home defense"

Quote
Whereas the safety on the 870 is located on the rear of the trigger guard, the Mossberg’s naturally ambidextrous safety is located on the rear of the trigger guard.
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Post by: Sgt PSN on October 31, 2017, 01:42:51 AM
Lol. Mossberg 500?
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: Tomahawk on October 31, 2017, 01:57:34 AM
Yessir

Apparently I need an AR-15 or some msr because what if an entire gang breaks in?!

It's weird how all the articles talk about stopping power instead of calling it killing power. farging psychos.

Pretty sure I'm going to get a shotty and load it with beanbags or rubber shot or whatever non-lethal ammo there is. I don't want to kill a motherfarger; I just want him to gtfo
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Post by: Diomedes on October 31, 2017, 06:48:15 AM
It's weird how all the articles talk about stopping power instead of calling it killing power.

Perhaps you know this already but I'll bite:

They say that for two reasons.  First, and most obviously, "killing" is not a great word to put in your promotional material.  Even if you're selling a home defense gun.

Second, gun folks distinguish between stopping and killing.  The former is the goal, the latter is often the consequence, or means, by which the former is accomplished.  That is, defensive shooters aren't trying to kill per se.  If it takes death to stop the target, fine, because dead people stop.  But kinda like you said in your last sentence, the desire isn't to kill.

Cops and the like are trained to shoot for center mass and to stop.  They are not trained to kill.  You shoot to the center mass because it's the easiest to hit, and theres a lot of vital shtein in there, damage to much of which will stop you.  You shoot with real bullets instead of jelly beans because the point is to stop the threat, not slow it down. 

That's the party line anyway. Do you buy the distinction as valid, or is that just semantics to you?
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: Tomahawk on October 31, 2017, 10:50:31 AM
It's semantics. Their desire is to kill, not just stop, an intruder.

But my viewpoint is the person is trying to get my stuff as opposed to trying to get me.
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: Tomahawk on October 31, 2017, 10:54:33 AM
One article was talking about how you'd be outgunned if you had a small 10 round clip against several intruders with knives.

Stupid liberal media had me believing I'd always win against the suckers who brought knives to a gun fight
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Post by: Sgt PSN on October 31, 2017, 11:04:48 AM
One article was talking about how you'd be outgunned if you had a small 10 round clip against several intruders with knives.

For the average Joe, that's probably true actually. It's one thing to shoot and hit a single intruder coming at you, but entirely different if you've got multiple targets coming from multiple angles.  Someone lacking experience and training would likely empty their mag on the first 2 targets.

Of course, I haven't seen a knife wielding gang since Michael Jackson's Beat It video. 
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: Tomahawk on October 31, 2017, 11:12:03 AM
How many dumbfargs are going to stick around after they get shot at? How many home invasions have more than two people coming in? How many home invaders are armed at all, with knives or guns?

Without knowing the answers to any of those questions, I'm comfortable stating people are living in a fear-based reality and compensate for being a Hoyda by getting guns
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Post by: Sgt PSN on October 31, 2017, 11:23:43 AM
Of course it's fear based propaganda. It's the 2nd most effective selling tool after sex. 
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: Tomahawk on October 31, 2017, 11:58:33 AM
Despite peer pressure, I'm not getting a gun. A home security system, in addition to the cameras I just put up yesterday, will be more than enough
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Post by: General_Failure on October 31, 2017, 12:00:43 PM
Just as well, you'd probably shoot yourself in the dick practicing your quick draw.
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: Tomahawk on October 31, 2017, 12:02:32 PM
Even though I'm an excellent shot at the range, I wouldn't classify myself as a sharpshooter
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Post by: Eagaholic on October 31, 2017, 10:26:24 PM
Despite peer pressure, I'm not getting a gun. A home security system, in addition to the cameras I just put up yesterday, will be more than enough
WTF, cameras aren't going to protect you from the coming apocalypse. Next you'll be telling us you aren't building a nuculear shelter.
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on October 31, 2017, 11:16:45 PM
Ban Home Depot rental trucks plz
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: Tomahawk on November 01, 2017, 08:51:15 PM
Mos def no on the shelter. I want to live to see the Apocalypse; not live through it
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: AO1 on November 01, 2017, 10:02:00 PM
Despite peer pressure, I'm not getting a gun. A home security system, in addition to the cameras I just put up yesterday, will be more than enough

I have great neighbors, they both have front and rear cameras.

I own two guns, a Beretta 92fs which was purchased strictly for taking to the range, and a glock for home defense. The beretta I keep in a locked case, the glock I keep in my closet with the clip out.

Ever think about getting a dog? My pit is intimidating as hell. He’s 65 lbs of muscle and has a bark like a motherfarger. If someone actually broke in he’d just annoyingly jump all over the intruder because he loves people but he’s a great deterrent.
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: MDS on November 01, 2017, 11:23:46 PM
you guys are Romes

nobody wants to take anything you have

i live in south philly with zero alarm system, zero dogs and zero guns. if theres a one in a million shot and someone breaks in when im there at night like in the farging movies they can have the tvs. im not playing dirty harry and neither are you.
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Post by: Sgt PSN on November 01, 2017, 11:27:30 PM
Anne Frank's dad said the same thing once. 
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: AO1 on November 01, 2017, 11:56:02 PM
you guys are Romes

nobody wants to take anything you have

i live in south philly with zero alarm system, zero dogs and zero guns. if theres a one in a million shot and someone breaks in when im there at night like in the farging movies they can have the tvs. im not playing dirty harry and neither are you.

Don’t care about a damn thing in my house, I only care about protecting my daughter. If you ever have kids you might think different. Throughout human history it’s been the mans job to protect his family. You can’t relate.


Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: Tomahawk on November 02, 2017, 12:05:45 AM
I'm pretty sure my chow scared them off. Had they bothered to finish off the job, I'm positive she would have ran outside to chase a leaf she mistook fora squirrel as soon as they opened the door.

I agree I don't have anything anybody wants but my house has been broken into twice, including once when we were home, and then this latest attempt.

The time when my ex and I were home, they climbed to reached in through the kitchen window (about 8 ft from the ground) to yank her purse. I only count it by technicality because it wasn't my shtein, the window was open, and they probably weren't completely inside

Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: AO1 on November 02, 2017, 12:08:56 AM
Where do you live?
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: Tomahawk on November 02, 2017, 12:10:32 AM
You wouldn't want my shtein either. Peoria, ILL
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: MDS on November 02, 2017, 09:08:51 AM
Don’t care about a damn thing in my house, I only care about protecting my daughter. If you ever have kids you might think different. Throughout human history it’s been the mans job to protect his family. You can’t relate.

you have a better chance of a gun mishap than you do of someone abducting your kid

and even if that happened your ex wife seems competent and sober im sure she can handle finding her
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: AO1 on November 02, 2017, 09:40:34 AM
Don’t care about a damn thing in my house, I only care about protecting my daughter. If you ever have kids you might think different. Throughout human history it’s been the mans job to protect his family. You can’t relate.

you have a better chance of a gun mishap than you do of someone abducting your kid

and even if that happened your ex wife seems competent and sober im sure she can handle finding her

One gun is locked in a case and I'm the only one with the combo, the other is stashed away in a closet, the clip is in another place. I don't take it out and wave it around. It stays in it's spot and serves its purpose.

A gun costs $250, gives me a small piece of mind. I don't see the big deal to be honest.
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: smeags on November 02, 2017, 09:45:40 AM
I have a boxer and a lab/pit mix. both are friendly as hell, but they know when to turn it up. a couple months ago an addict tried to get in our car, I woke to the sound of our dogs trying to push through our bay window and barking like crazy.

they got this and I don't see a reason to own a gun.

if you feel the need to own a gun, that's 100% your decision. im not planning on robbing your house so why do I care ?  :evil

Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: ice grillin you on November 02, 2017, 09:54:02 AM
i put banana peels around the house
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: Tomahawk on November 02, 2017, 10:08:17 AM
Vaudeville comedy ensues
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: MDS on November 02, 2017, 10:26:33 AM
when they start taking away guns im making sure the first person they come for is sd

Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: AO1 on November 02, 2017, 10:31:41 AM
they'll have to pry it from my cold dead hand
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Post by: hbionic on November 03, 2017, 02:27:05 AM
i put banana peels around the house

How did I miss this?

 :cfhead :cfhead :cfhead :cfhead :cfhead
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Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on November 03, 2017, 11:06:28 PM
https://www.cbsnews.com/amp/news/my-wife-just-shot-her-kids-husband-sobs-reports-girls-killings-in-911-call/

Jesus

But if there’s no gun readily available those kids are alive
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on November 05, 2017, 02:34:58 PM
Shooting at a church in San Antonio
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on November 05, 2017, 02:57:37 PM
Early reports are 27 dead and 24 injured
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Post by: Diomedes on November 05, 2017, 02:58:45 PM
in that case, wrong thread yo
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: ice grillin you on November 20, 2017, 11:03:11 AM
holy shtein is chris rock funny on this autism hbo johnson
Title: Re: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: General_Failure on November 29, 2017, 12:57:25 AM
Reno police shot a balcony shooter before he managed to hit anybody. Good job, Reno.
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Post by: Sgt PSN on November 29, 2017, 01:16:38 AM
Their police force is top notch.

(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/0/02/Reno_cast_v8.jpg/300px-Reno_cast_v8.jpg)
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Post by: smeags on November 30, 2017, 05:04:31 PM
nm
Title: Re: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: Diomedes on December 12, 2017, 02:39:29 PM
https://youtu.be/ZvRQ1StsYGw
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on December 31, 2017, 11:55:01 AM
Sounds like Houston police have foiled a mass shooting

They busted some dude with an arsenal in his downtown hotel room where a NYE party was going to be tonight
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: AO1 on December 31, 2017, 01:00:20 PM
He didn’t commit a crime other than public intoxication. He was booked for tresspassing and unlawful possession. Unless he showed intent or made threats there’s nothing illegal in Texas stating you can’t possess a cache of firearms in a hotel room. If the firearms were registered with the NFA it’s within his legal rights to have an AR 15 and shotgun in a hotel room. Unless I don’t understand Texas gun laws I don’t see the gun charges holding up.
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Post by: QB Eagles on December 31, 2017, 01:42:03 PM
Weird. Usually when cops here about someone with a gun in a hotel room, they make him crawl around in the hallway and execute him.
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: Tomahawk on December 31, 2017, 08:26:13 PM
He didn’t commit a crime other than public intoxication. He was booked for tresspassing and unlawful possession. Unless he showed intent or made threats there’s nothing illegal in Texas stating you can’t possess a cache of firearms in a hotel room. If the firearms were registered with the NFA it’s within his legal rights to have an AR 15 and shotgun in a hotel room. Unless I don’t understand Texas gun laws I don’t see the gun charges holding up.

That's an interesting point. Not to this story specifically, but how do they know he was going to shoot up a crowd? Even they can prove intent, what's the crime? Attempted murder?
Title: Re: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on December 31, 2017, 08:40:16 PM
Weird. Usually when cops here about someone with a gun in a hotel room, they make him crawl around in the hallway and execute him.

True
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on December 31, 2017, 08:40:52 PM
He didn’t commit a crime other than public intoxication. He was booked for tresspassing and unlawful possession. Unless he showed intent or made threats there’s nothing illegal in Texas stating you can’t possess a cache of firearms in a hotel room. If the firearms were registered with the NFA it’s within his legal rights to have an AR 15 and shotgun in a hotel room. Unless I don’t understand Texas gun laws I don’t see the gun charges holding up.

He may get a medal from Governor Hot Wheels then
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: AO1 on December 31, 2017, 09:39:53 PM
The NRA will definitely cover his lawyer fees
Title: Re: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: Diomedes on February 10, 2018, 10:59:46 AM
So I know a woman pretty well, she used to be a neighbor before we moved, and still is in a way because we kept that first house and rent it out.  Lovely person.  Her family is one of those that has a lot of trouble in it.  Men in jail, women with babies by several men. etc.  One daughter OD death recently.  A lot of sorrow and dysfunction.  She's the rock of the family as it were, the one who pays her mortgage, works, avoids the shtein.

Couple days ago, her grandson, child of the dead addict, is beefing with his baby momma and one of her male friends/boyfriends, whatever.   Shoots the man dead in his baby momma's home.

My question:  what's the appropriate way for me to offer condolences to my friend, whose grandson is now a murderer on his way to jail for a long long time? 
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: hbionic on February 10, 2018, 02:50:16 PM
1. It could be worse
2. Where you Hitler in your past life?
3. Flowers?

All joking aside, I don't think condolences are appropriate. A person like her, has her head screwed on tight on her shoulders and understands the situation. Maybe saying "sorry to hear about the news" or "Its tragic knowing that two souls will be lost" or just simply offer her your support letting her know that you're there (as empty as it may sound)...but people have an idea of who/what their family are and the pitfalls they're susceptible to. It's just one of those, where you look at her, wrinkle your mouth a little and shake your head as you give her a hug. Just acknowledging that the situation is farged up and there's nothing she could have done. 
Title: Re: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: Tomahawk on February 10, 2018, 04:01:59 PM
So I know a woman pretty well, she used to be a neighbor before we moved, and still is in a way because we kept that first house and rent it out.  Lovely person.  Her family is one of those that has a lot of trouble in it.  Men in jail, women with babies by several men. etc.  One daughter OD death recently.  A lot of sorrow and dysfunction.  She's the rock of the family as it were, the one who pays her mortgage, works, avoids the shtein.

Couple days ago, her grandson, child of the dead addict, is beefing with his baby momma and one of her male friends/boyfriends, whatever.   Shoots the man dead in his baby momma's home.

My question:  what's the appropriate way for me to offer condolences to my friend, whose grandson is now a murderer on his way to jail for a long long time?

Brownies would be appropriate if her grandson was the one who was killed. In this case, I think a casserole is what Betty calls for
Title: Re: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: Diomedes on February 10, 2018, 05:08:14 PM
This is the advice I'm looking for.  Specifics.

The way I was raised, you send these people fruitcake all.
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: hbionic on February 10, 2018, 05:19:03 PM
It would be funny if she looked at you awkward for bringing the wrong thing.

"We're celebrating a murder, not a death, stupid!"
Title: Re: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: Diomedes on February 10, 2018, 05:27:02 PM
I go in all down in the mouth, wishing her my support.

She's like..."that guy needed to die, it's all good babe!"
Title: Re: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: Sgt PSN on February 12, 2018, 02:01:22 AM
I love happy endings.
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: ice grillin you on February 12, 2018, 01:52:41 PM
we are now at 11 days straight without a murder in baltimore....last one february 1, 1:12 PM
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: hbionic on February 12, 2018, 02:49:53 PM
You just jinxed it.
Title: Re: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: Diomedes on February 12, 2018, 04:09:59 PM
"we?"

I didn't know Baltimore murders included PG County suburbanites

it's all good, I know you mean love

Title: Re: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: ice grillin you on February 12, 2018, 04:12:54 PM
"we?"

unless someone was born after feb 1 then yes its been 11 days for all of us
Title: Re: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: Diomedes on February 12, 2018, 04:22:56 PM
chuggie too?  can he claim "we" haven't had a murder in Baltimore?  the whole world is we in this case?

unless I'm confused over which it was, that last murder "we" had, I know the shooter's grandma, aunt, uncle, cousins...

I dunno, I think "we" in this case is not you me or anyone else on :CF because we are hardly even remotely connected to the people doing the killing and dying..

If you mean to say, good news, the murders in baltimore have slowed...I'm down.

on we, I dunno.  if you can bitch about fans saying we about the eagles then I can point out that "we" ain't part of Baltimore

or, I can just say I love you, man, and chuckle at the antagonizing aspect you project...it's cute after all
Title: Re: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: General_Failure on February 12, 2018, 06:19:38 PM
Look at these fake Hons.
Title: Re: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: ice grillin you on February 13, 2018, 07:09:40 AM
chuggie too?  can he claim "we" haven't had a murder in Baltimore?  the whole world is we in this case?

unless I'm confused over which it was, that last murder "we" had, I know the shooter's grandma, aunt, uncle, cousins...

I dunno, I think "we" in this case is not you me or anyone else on :CF because we are hardly even remotely connected to the people doing the killing and dying..

If you mean to say, good news, the murders in baltimore have slowed...I'm down.

on we, I dunno.  if you can bitch about fans saying we about the eagles then I can point out that "we" ain't part of Baltimore

or, I can just say I love you, man, and chuckle at the antagonizing aspect you project...it's cute after all

we = time not location or residence....

unless its this board talking about the eagles then everyone has played or worked for them cept me

trust me no one is trying to claim baltimore...the people who live there dont even wanna claim it
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: ice grillin you on February 14, 2018, 03:47:10 PM
https://twitter.com/TheCaptainAidan/status/963865696643026944
Title: Re: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: General_Failure on February 14, 2018, 03:55:47 PM
Suspended for foul language.

Also, the best part:

https://twitter.com/miamicrime/status/963877318098870273
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: MDS on February 14, 2018, 04:27:31 PM
to the naked eyes those always look bad but whats hes tweeting is news and this is the legal way to use that information. its called journalism. not always pretty.
Title: Re: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: Sgt PSN on February 14, 2018, 04:47:25 PM
Doesn't twitter offer some sort of direct/private messaging service?  I don't see anything wrong with her asking, but it seems odd/creepy/inappropriate to tweet at someone publicly when they're hiding from a shooter. 

Then again, according to that time stamp, like 45 minutes had passed by the time she asked.  Maybe the situation had been resolved and the shooter arrested or dead at that point. 
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: MDS on February 14, 2018, 05:10:01 PM
twitter is a cesspool and it should exterminated along with all guns and most people
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: ice grillin you on February 14, 2018, 06:08:11 PM
this is farging astounding....

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In the rest of the world, there have been 18 school shootings in the last twenty years. In the U.S., there have been 18 school shootings since January 1--35 days.
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on February 14, 2018, 07:28:40 PM
Thoughts and prayers
Title: Re: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: Tomahawk on February 14, 2018, 10:26:41 PM
Doesn't twitter offer some sort of direct/private messaging service?  I don't see anything wrong with her asking, but it seems odd/creepy/inappropriate to tweet at someone publicly when they're hiding from a shooter. 

Then again, according to that time stamp, like 45 minutes had passed by the time she asked.  Maybe the situation had been resolved and the shooter arrested or dead at that point.

There's no question about how inappropriate the reporters actions are. Did reporters on tour with our troops ask how they were doing in the middle of a firefight? She can, and to a degree is obligated, to ask those questions, but her timing and responses could not have been worse.

What's it going to take for us to require guns to have a fingerprint scanner or some sort of biometrics to unlock? It's probably not the right amswer, but it's lightfargingyears ahead of doing nothing other than starting a dialogue or whatever stupid shtein our government is going to say. Thoughts and prayers indeed
Title: Re: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: Diomedes on February 15, 2018, 05:48:38 AM
How about we start at actually putting gun criminals in jail, like the so-called law-abiding ones who can't seem to secure their weapons?  You leave a pistol in the glove box of your car and it gets stolen, that shouldn't just be a police report, it should be an arrest and jail time for leaving a weapon of mass destruction unsecured.  Require background checks at guns shows.  Make illegal all private sales:  all guns must be sold to and bought from licensed dealers....and put anyone who breaks that law in jail.

Then, for every non-violent dope dealer you've got in jail, swap him out for an actual gun criminal.  I'd much rather have the guy who threatens his wife with his shotgun in jail, than the guy who was selling dope to addicts.  Hell, the latter actually provides a service of a kind in the community.  The gunslinger is just a danger to public health.

When someone gets convicted of spousal abuse and loses their right to owning a gun...don't just put them on a list so they can't buy one, go and confiscate the ones they do have.

That's right, go take guns.  Why isn't the straw buyer of guns the kind of person we put away for life?  Why are the punishments for gun play so lax?

It's easier to get a gun than a job in Baltimore.
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: Tomahawk on February 15, 2018, 08:36:25 AM
Lol @ weapons of mass destruction but I dig the rest
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: AO1 on February 15, 2018, 09:08:09 AM
Gun ownership should be handled like having a license to drive. You take a test as well as a background check, you take a gun safety and operators course, you register your gun, you certify it yearly. There are more guns than there are people in the US...but a majority of the weapons are owned by 25% of the population. People with existing weapons should have to register their guns and take a certification test. If they don't abide than they get fined and their firearms get confiscated.

The "mental health issue" is bullshtein. America is not the only country in the world with mental health issues. Is it a large contributing factor? Yes, but it's not THE factor. I'm pro 2nd amendment for the simple fact that the horse is already out of the barn, there's nothing I can do to stop firearms from being purchased so I might as well tool up in case shtein goes down. When my daughter turns 13 I'm taking her to a gun range and teaching her to use a firearm. Living in America...eye to eye...station to station.
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: ice grillin you on February 15, 2018, 10:03:26 AM
lets start with making ar-15's illegal...period right off the bat...just like machine guns and bazookas are

then we can get into the weeds
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: MDS on February 15, 2018, 10:19:43 AM
destroy all guns and kill all guns owners with guns unless they destroy their guns

farg your guns you small dicked maniacs
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: ice grillin you on February 15, 2018, 01:02:06 PM
ayo

https://www.adl.org/blog/florida-white-supremacist-group-admits-ties-to-alleged-parkland-school-shooter-nikolas-cruz
Title: Re: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: Sgt PSN on February 15, 2018, 01:21:51 PM
It's easier to get a gun than a job in Baltimore.

It's Baltimore, gentlemen. The gods will not save you.

Or employ you.
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: ice grillin you on February 15, 2018, 02:09:19 PM
hi

(https://pbs.twimg.com/card_img/964203483535732736/XRP_dOrp?format=jpg&name=600x314)
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: Eagles_Legendz on February 15, 2018, 03:23:47 PM
White hate groups need to be labeled terrorist organizations.  It’s farging disgraceful that whenever a white person decides to mass murder people (which is infinitely more frequently) it’s mental health problems but when it’s a brown person it’s terrorism.
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: ice grillin you on February 15, 2018, 03:28:46 PM
White hate groups need to be labeled terrorist organizations.  It’s farging disgraceful that whenever a white person decides to mass murder people (which is infinitely more frequently) it’s mental health problems but when it’s a brown person it’s terrorism.

whether its dropping flyers in a neighborhood or murdering people white supremacist/nationalist groups and the kkk literally exist to terrorize people...thats their whole being

can you imagine if instead of training with a white supremeist group and wearing a maga hat this kid had an ms-13 t-shirt on....people would be losing their farging shtein right now
Title: Re: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: Diomedes on February 15, 2018, 05:30:35 PM
Lol @ weapons of mass destruction but I dig the rest

I rather like the phrase for use here.  How else do you describe a weapon used to kill 17 and wound a dozen more in under a minute or two?  Mass shooting, mass destruction...

destroy all guns and kill all guns owners with guns unless they destroy their guns

farg your guns you small dicked maniacs

IN
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: ice grillin you on February 15, 2018, 06:44:20 PM
southern poverty cannot confirm that this kid was in the ROF but they highly doubt it because the leader of the ROF is an attention whore and lies about shtein all the time....in fact in 2014 he called the splc to complain that his group had yet to obtain hate status with the splc
Title: Re: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: General_Failure on February 18, 2018, 09:26:57 PM
Guns Now Third Leading Cause of Death for U.S. Children (http://www.newsweek.com/guns-kids-third-leading-cause-death-627209)

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Though we constantly see examples in the news, child gun injuries and deaths may be even more prevalent in the United States than we realized. A study published Monday in the journal Pediatrics showed that an average of 5,790 children in the United States receive emergency room treatment for gun-related injuries each year, and around 21 percent of those injuries are unintentional. The study also found that an average of 1,297 children die annually from gun-related injuries, making guns the third-leading cause of death for children in America (behind illnesses and unintentional injuries like drownings or car crashes). The number is based on data taken from 2012 to 2014 for children up to the age of 17.

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Title: Re: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: ice grillin you on February 19, 2018, 07:35:12 PM
Guns Now Third Leading Cause of Death for U.S. Children (http://www.newsweek.com/guns-kids-third-leading-cause-death-627209)

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Though we constantly see examples in the news, child gun injuries and deaths may be even more prevalent in the United States than we realized. A study published Monday in the journal Pediatrics showed that an average of 5,790 children in the United States receive emergency room treatment for gun-related injuries each year, and around 21 percent of those injuries are unintentional. The study also found that an average of 1,297 children die annually from gun-related injuries, making guns the third-leading cause of death for children in America (behind illnesses and unintentional injuries like drownings or car crashes). The number is based on data taken from 2012 to 2014 for children up to the age of 17.

kill us all immediately....including me

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Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: Tomahawk on February 19, 2018, 11:04:34 PM
If they lumped illnesses in with drownings and car crashes,  gunkidkkill would be #2, or, split them all up for the added impact of guns being #1
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: AO1 on February 20, 2018, 09:08:26 AM
And that Newsweek article was written 8 months ago.
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on February 20, 2018, 10:32:23 AM
I'm quite enjoying the high school kids going in on Trump
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: AO1 on February 20, 2018, 03:02:39 PM
7th grader in Ohio just blew his brains out in the bathroom at school

Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: MDS on February 20, 2018, 03:22:29 PM
7th grader in Ohio just blew his brains out in the bathroom at school

with a knife?
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: AO1 on February 20, 2018, 03:30:15 PM
No an auotmobile
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on February 20, 2018, 09:19:17 PM
Thoughts and prayers
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: hbionic on February 20, 2018, 10:59:41 PM
I'm going to update my facebook cover photo with a flag from the kid's country of origin.

Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: AO1 on February 21, 2018, 07:01:28 AM
I'm quite enjoying the high school kids going in on Trump

There are conspiracy theories some of these kids protesting are just actors and don't even go to the school. Merica
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: ice grillin you on February 21, 2018, 07:15:29 AM
No an auotmobile

i read it was a pool
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: AO1 on February 21, 2018, 11:20:17 AM
Must watch TV

https://www.cnn.com/2018/02/21/politics/cnn-town-hall-parkland/index.html
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: hunt on February 21, 2018, 12:39:16 PM
Must watch TV

https://www.cnn.com/2018/02/21/politics/cnn-town-hall-parkland/index.html

hopefully the parkland kids have an "expert" or two on their side to help protect them from the nra's professional attack dogs.
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: AO1 on February 21, 2018, 12:45:06 PM
they're crisis actors paid for by Soros so I'm sure they'll do  just fine
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: hunt on February 21, 2018, 01:02:47 PM
 :-D  good point.  they'll be wearing earpieces directly connected to soros anyway. 
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: AO1 on February 22, 2018, 09:10:52 PM
Only a good guy with a gun can stop a bad guy with a gun....

https://mobile.nytimes.com/2018/02/22/us/nikolas-cruz-florida-shooting.html?referer=https://www.google.com/
Title: Re: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: Diomedes on February 22, 2018, 10:00:58 PM
No money for art supplies.  Raise taxes to arm teachers.  Thank you sir may I have another.
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: Tomahawk on February 22, 2018, 10:25:31 PM
Martial law is the only reasonable solution
Title: Re: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: Sgt PSN on February 23, 2018, 12:33:04 AM
Let's definitely arm the teachers.

http://www.msnbc.com/msnbc/utah-teacher-shoots-herself-the-leg-while-school
Title: Re: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: Diomedes on February 23, 2018, 07:02:47 AM
These iceholes can't find money for pencils and crayons and now they've got money for armed guards, training, and bonuses?

The uniformed, armed Sherrif's deputy in Florida cowered outside the building throughout the shooting.  You want teachers to have guns?

How's a teacher going to confront someone with a semi automatic assault rifle?

I'm hard pressed to find a sane position on the right in all this.  If anyone can find some gun rights people who aren't little LePierres, post 'em here.

Ban assault rifles.  Raise buying age.  Strengthen background checks, and require them everywhere.  Impose waiting period between application and handing over weapon.  Require safety classes, passing a test.  Jail people who don't secure their firearms from children and theives.  Ban bump stocks.  Ban private sales entirely.  Sell only to licensed dealer, all other sales are criminal and carry prison time.

Law abiding citizens who want to excersize their right to own a gun should have no problem with reasonable restrictions and regulations like these.  If you balk at having to pass a test, or being rewuired to keep the gun locked up, or at being allowed to purchase and sell only thorugh licensed dealers..then you're not a sane person who should be allowe to have weapons of war.

Really, they should all just be banned though, maybe some hunting clubs or something where the weapons are very tightly controlleed.....
Title: Re: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: AO1 on February 23, 2018, 07:49:48 AM

Ban assault rifles.  Raise buying age.  Strengthen background checks, and require them everywhere.  Impose waiting period between application and handing over weapon.  Require safety classes, passing a test.  Jail people who don't secure their firearms from children and theives.  Ban bump stocks.  Ban private sales entirely.  Sell only to licensed dealer, all other sales are criminal and carry prison time.

Law abiding citizens who want to excersize their right to own a gun should have no problem with reasonable restrictions and regulations like these.  If you balk at having to pass a test, or being rewuired to keep the gun locked up, or at being allowed to purchase and sell only thorugh licensed dealers..then you're not a sane person who should be allowe to have weapons of war.

This is the common sense stuff that needs to be imposed. Idiots keep saying "when has an NRA member went on a shooting spree why are they to blame"....they get the blame because they won't give on any issue. The mere mention of anything restricting gun rights turns into them claiming their second amendment rights are being infringed upon and background checks are an invasion of privacy. You want to own a firearm? Great, you can go through a similar process as you do when you're given a drivers license. That's "common sense". The military actually exercises common sense weapon handling, in order for me to use a firearm it's not just issued to me and I just figure it out. I'm taught the proper use, safety, taken to a range, and have to pass a qualification. I'm pro-second amendment for the simple fact there are too many guns in circulation so I have no other choice to protect myself and my daughter than to have a firearm in my home in case some loon wants to break in. But if the Government said I had to have insurance, certify my weapon, take a course, have a thorough back ground check done etc....no problem.
Title: Re: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: Diomedes on February 23, 2018, 07:59:59 AM
http://www.wbaltv.com/article/hopkins-study-finds-few-gun-owners-use-safe-storage/18665730

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In Maryland, it's a misdemeanor to negligently store or leave a loaded firearm where a child under 16 has access to it.

Change that to a felony and give judges the ability to put people in jail for real time.  Your kid gets the glock and accidentally shoots his brother dead?  Sorry, the tragedy actually isn't enough punishment...go to jail.  Leave your gun in your glove box and it gets stolen...sorry, I know the thief shouldn't have stolen it, but go to jail for five years.
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: Rome on February 23, 2018, 08:40:18 AM
Settle down, Dio.  Jesus...
Title: Re: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: Diomedes on February 23, 2018, 08:41:11 AM
Go lock up your guns, Romebo
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: ice grillin you on February 23, 2018, 08:43:48 AM
Only a good guy with a gun can stop a bad guy with a gun....

https://mobile.nytimes.com/2018/02/22/us/nikolas-cruz-florida-shooting.html?referer=https://www.google.com/

even ahead of school kids the first group of people in the country that would vote for the elimination of ar-15's are police
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: Rome on February 23, 2018, 09:27:47 AM
I understand your feelings, dude.  And frankly I agree with many of them.  But the “solutions” you’re proposing smack of Nazi Germany in the 30s.  Besides, they’d never fly in this country anyway. 
Title: Re: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: Diomedes on February 23, 2018, 10:23:29 AM
these idea do not smack of Nazi Germany, at all.  what the farg's wrong with you?  there's nothing remotely fascistic about requiring personal responsibility in a democratic republic.  You think it's like the Nazis to regulate track and limit who can buy TNT? 

I'm tired of hearing change will never happen....that's some defeatist shtein.  If change doesn't happen, this is just going to keep getting worse.  Right now some kid is bout to walk into another school.  Maybe your daughters, maybe my kids. 

Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: ice grillin you on February 23, 2018, 10:25:59 AM
your scenario is a clear cut case of manslaughter....lol at nazi germany
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: Rome on February 23, 2018, 11:15:33 AM
But Dio wants to make gun laws draconian.  That’s fine.  He’s cute that way. 
Title: Re: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: MDS on February 23, 2018, 11:38:59 AM
http://www.wbaltv.com/article/hopkins-study-finds-few-gun-owners-use-safe-storage/18665730

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In Maryland, it's a misdemeanor to negligently store or leave a loaded firearm where a child under 16 has access to it.

Change that to a felony and give judges the ability to put people in jail for real time.  Your kid gets the glock and accidentally shoots his brother dead?  Sorry, the tragedy actually isn't enough punishment...go to jail.  Leave your gun in your glove box and it gets stolen...sorry, I know the thief shouldn't have stolen it, but go to jail for five years.

this

you want a gun? great. your gun gets used in a crime? your fault whether you did it or not. unless you can prove it was locked and stored and stolen in a manner where you did everything right, its on YOU.
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: Rome on February 23, 2018, 11:54:24 AM
Replace gun with car. 
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: ice grillin you on February 23, 2018, 11:57:09 AM
Replace gun with car.

or a pool or aspirin or a banana peel!!
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: Rome on February 23, 2018, 12:03:59 PM
Banana peels as weapons are only appropriate when the bitch refuses to get an abortion. 
Title: Re: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: Geowhizzer on February 23, 2018, 12:53:01 PM
you want a gun? great. your gun gets used in a crime? your fault whether you did it or not. unless you can prove it was locked and stored and stolen in a manner where you did everything right, its on YOU.

Wouldn't it be the government's job to prove you didn't?
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: MDS on February 23, 2018, 01:32:06 PM
we can argue about semantics or we can arrest every person with a gun and finally all feel safe
Title: Re: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: Diomedes on February 23, 2018, 01:58:15 PM
But Dio wants to make gun laws draconian.  That’s fine.  He’s cute that way. 

Dio wants to make the laws commensurate to the crimes and risk to public health

My ideas look draconian only because to date, punsihment has been comically lax.   

What is prison for, if not to remove from society people who are a threat to the public?  Leave your pistol out so your kid can get it and accidentally shoot someone...that's a grave threat and warrants real punishment.
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: Rome on February 23, 2018, 02:16:49 PM
Prison is to keep black men away from my white daughter. 

PS - awesome DIO usage of the bold function.
Title: Re: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: Sgt PSN on February 23, 2018, 09:47:57 PM
Go lock up your guns, Romebo

I laughed.
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: AO1 on February 24, 2018, 08:53:09 AM
https://youtu.be/yJqfNroFp8U
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: Rome on February 24, 2018, 09:55:43 AM
A little juvenile but so on point.
Title: Re: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: General_Failure on March 10, 2018, 11:31:12 AM
3 Workers Killed, Gunman Dead In Standoff At Veterans Center In Yountville (http://sanfrancisco.cbslocal.com/2018/03/09/reports-of-man-with-gun-body-armor-at-yountville-veterans-home/)

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YOUNTVILLE (CBS/AP) — Three workers for a program that treats veterans for post-traumatic stress disorder were found dead Friday along with the suspect who took them hostage at the largest veterans home in the U.S.

The four bodies were discovered nearly eight hours after the gunman slipped into an employee going-away party in a building where combat veterans of Iraq and Afghanistan receive treatment, said California Highway Patrol Assistant Chief Chris Childs.

The gunman who killed three people who work for a California program that treats veterans for post-traumatic stress disorder was kicked out of the program, a relative of one victim said Friday.
Title: Re: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: Sgt PSN on March 10, 2018, 08:34:31 PM
People with Dementia and PTSD should be able to arm themselves. Nurses too. They can shoot the criminal and then save his life so he can stand trial. Literally no flaws with this plan.
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: AO1 on March 12, 2018, 03:08:47 PM
This is from a woman who was pretty much my second mom growing up. Their entire family are lifetime NRA members.

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There have been things that haven’t been adding up. It’s pretty clear there was more than one shooter in Vegas. Yet, the media ignores it. In the Florida shooting, why did the FBI ignore warnings about Cruz. There’s just a lot of unanswered questions and odd behavior.  The UN is pushing Agenda 21, which is a one world government. They will have to disarm us, so they can control us. The Bushes, Clintons and Obama have all been involved in this. Scary shtein.
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: MDS on March 12, 2018, 03:35:01 PM
she single?
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: AO1 on March 12, 2018, 05:33:21 PM
Gun nuts like to mock people who want to ban assault style weapons. It’s rather farging annoying.  Since I know about gun here’s my response:

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“AR” stands for Armalite Rifle which is the manufacture name that makes AR’s. The AR 15 rifle is semi-automatic same as most modern handguns. Semi-automatic just means once you pull the trigger the gun automatically loads another bullet in the chamber so you can fire off another round while having to pull the trigger again. Neither weapon is rapid fire fully automatic. The term “assault rifle” is just that, a term. There’s technically no definition of what constitutes an assault rifle but loosely they’re defined as fully automatic rapid fire weapons. The speed of a bullet coming out of an AR is approximately double that of a standard handgun. Standard AR’s have a magazine size of 30 rounds whereas a standard 9 mm handgun carries 15. AR 15’s are rifles meaning they have a shoulder stock which limits recoil making them easier and more accurate to fire than a handgun. You can also customize an AR 15 by modifying the barrel, magazine size, adding a scope, and adding a bump stock. So while AR’s aren’t technically what people define as “assault rifles” they do mimic them in a lot of ways. I hope that helps to explain the main differences in the weapons and what is meant by the term “assault rifle”. If I was going into battle I’d chose an AR 15 over a handgun because it’s way more efficient. Personally I never plan on owning an AR 15 because I don’t see the need. A handgun is practical for me to protect my home. If they were banned I don’t feel it would infringe on my 2nd Amendment rights. AR style weapons were banned in 1994 but the ban expired in 2004 https://www.congress.gov/bill/103rd-congress/house-bill/3355/text

Amazing how fast they shut the farg up and back track. One guy tried pulling the “I was in the military” card which I threw right back in his stupid face.
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Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on March 12, 2018, 07:54:42 PM
Standing o on that response
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: Tomahawk on March 13, 2018, 12:10:09 AM
That's pretty freaky, phreak
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: Tomahawk on March 13, 2018, 12:33:04 AM
http://time.com/5186040/sherrilyn-ifill-black-children-classroom/

As important as enacting gun safety laws is, it should take a backseat to legislating away the policies that create the school-to-prison pipeline.

Has anyone seen Notes from the Field?
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: ice grillin you on March 13, 2018, 07:29:51 AM
i dont know why and it shouldn't bother me but her playing all the different characters annoyed the shtein out of me....i know her heart is in the right place but it felt just as much a showcase for her as it did the topics at hand

a billion times better is ava duvernays 13th and of course im not your negro is just staggering although that is about race in general not specifically the prison system altho its very relevant
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on March 13, 2018, 11:45:59 AM
That's pretty freaky, phreak
lolol
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: Tomahawk on March 13, 2018, 03:59:07 PM
i dont know why and it shouldn't bother me but her playing all the different characters annoyed the shtein out of me....i know her heart is in the right place but it felt just as much a showcase for her as it did the topics at hand

a billion times better is ava duvernays 13th and of course im not your negro is just staggering although that is about race in general not specifically the prison system altho its very relevant

Every time I watch 13th, I find something to be disgustingly astonished by
Title: Re: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: Diomedes on March 14, 2018, 11:50:31 AM
arming teachers is working out great

http://www.westernmassnews.com/story/37720272/teacher-accidentally-fires-gun-in-classroom-student-injured
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: Tomahawk on March 14, 2018, 12:42:53 PM
arming teachers is working out great

http://www.westernmassnews.com/story/37720272/teacher-accidentally-fires-gun-in-classroom-student-injured

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Alexander also serves as a reserve officer for Sand City police and is a Seaside city councilman.

Thug
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Post by: Sgt PSN on March 14, 2018, 06:43:42 PM
Major levels of incompetence when gun negligence is the least disturbing part of the story.


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Shortly after the incident, class resumed as usual.

The teen’s father, Fermin Gonzales, said he rushed his son to the hospital after the 17-year-old returned from school with blood on his shirt and a neck injury.

“He’s shaken up, but he’s going to be OK,” Gonzales told KSBW. “I’m just pretty upset that no one told us anything and we had to call the police ourselves to report it.”
Title: Re: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: Diomedes on March 19, 2018, 12:54:53 PM
https://www.cnn.com/2018/03/19/us/boy-shot-sister-over-video-game-trnd/index.html

Put the parents in prison.
Title: Re: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: ice grillin you on March 19, 2018, 02:26:48 PM
https://www.cnn.com/2018/03/19/us/boy-shot-sister-over-video-game-trnd/index.html

what in the hell
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: AO1 on March 20, 2018, 08:54:24 AM
Another school shooting in Maryland

Thoughts and prayers
Title: Re: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: Diomedes on March 20, 2018, 09:03:46 AM
Whoever bought the gun used in this shooting should go to prison.

edit:  I want gun owners held responsible for what happens to their guns.  You want to buy a gun, you pass the rules to get it, fine.  But that's not the end of it.  If you don't secure the weapon, and your kid scoops it up off the coffee table, or you leave it unsecured anywhere, even inside your home, then as far as I'm concerned, you're partially responsible for any shooting/use of weapon in a crime.

I don't understand how anyone who fails to keep a weapon stored safely can be considered a responsble gun owner.  The law ought to require that gun owners take reasonable measure to prevent the weapon falling into the hands of anyone else, and simply locking your front door isn't enough.
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: Rome on March 20, 2018, 10:16:25 AM
I have mine in a gun safe inside a larger safe.  Someone could definitely break in and steal my shtein no matter what I do.  I guess if my Glock is used in a crime, I should go to the joint too, though, just to make DIO feel better. 
Title: Re: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: Diomedes on March 20, 2018, 10:24:31 AM
You should go to jail for more fundamental reasons than any particular crime.

But no, if you lock your shtein up, use trigger lock, etc...then a burglary should not count.  But if the burglar kick in a window only to find your precious glock under your pillow then yes, farg you, go to jail.
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: smeags on March 20, 2018, 10:53:00 AM
if trump were only in the area, he would've stopped this maniac.
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: AO1 on March 20, 2018, 11:25:20 AM
I have mine in a gun safe inside a larger safe.  Someone could definitely break in and steal my shtein no matter what I do.  I guess if my Glock is used in a crime, I should go to the joint too, though, just to make DIO feel better.

Unless you're away on a long vacation someone isn't breaking into two safes and stealing your gun. The point I'm making is how you're storing your firearm is responsible. The point I think Dio is trying to make - and one in which I 100% agree with - is shooters aren't breaking into safes to steal guns, they have ridiculously easy access to obtain them already. The problem lies in gun owners are irresponsible and are not liable when they leave their weapon unattended and some idiot/kid/teen/small child shoots someone. Life just goes on, the NRA nuts come out of the wood work, someone posts the story from 2014 when the Chinese guy killed 30 people with knives, rinse/repeat. There needs to be accountability for gun owners. I should have to had to taken a safety course, passed a test, had an extensive background check and had to register my weapon yearly. That would hold me accountable if my weapon was used in a crime. Instead I can drive 10 minutes over to Harry's gun shop and buy a gun because it's my "right".  The 2nd amendment is absurd and guns need to be regulated.
Title: Re: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: General_Failure on March 20, 2018, 11:32:36 AM
Or you can just knock the window out of my neighbor's car and take his.
Title: Re: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: Diomedes on March 20, 2018, 12:30:19 PM
What galls me is your neighbor thinks he's a law abiding citizen, and he may in fact be one by the letter of the law.  As far as he's concerned, he did nothing wrong, it's all on the thief who broke into his car.

That mentality has got to change.  It's not enough to lock your front door.  You need to secure your farging weapons.  From children, from intruders.  There are any number of ways to do this, but the majority of gun owners take literally no measures to store their guns safely. 

Time to hold people accountable.  You can't have a tiger and just tie him up to a tree with a hemp rope.  You gotta get a license and build an enclosure subject to inspections, etc. etc.  Why?  because tigers are a danger to public health if they get loose. 

Same with your beloved guns. 

Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: ice grillin you on March 20, 2018, 12:43:25 PM
I have mine in a gun safe inside a larger safe.  Someone could definitely break in and steal my shtein no matter what I do.  I guess if my Glock is used in a crime, I should go to the joint too, though, just to make DIO feel better.

Life just goes on, the NRA nuts come out of the wood work, someone posts the story from 2014 when the Chinese guy killed 30 people with knives, rinse/repeat.

it was a terrorist group of 8 people not one....which basically eliminates their stupid argument
Title: Re: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: Diomedes on March 20, 2018, 12:53:37 PM
Gun festish people:  "Good guy with gun stopped bad guy with gun!  See, it works"

Decent people:  "Kids still got shot yo.  Good guy can't keep kids from getting shot, best case scenario, limits carnage.  That's good enough  for you?"

Gun fetish:  "mah rights mah rights"
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: Rome on March 20, 2018, 01:22:54 PM
Why would I keep a gun under my pillow?

I’d just take my meatcicle out and whip them to death with it instead. 

Whoooo-pah!
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: Tomahawk on March 20, 2018, 01:49:59 PM
You'd shoot them with blanks
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: Rome on March 20, 2018, 01:55:11 PM
Damnable lies!
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: smeags on March 20, 2018, 01:55:17 PM
You'd shoot them with blanks

romey air soft gun
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: ice grillin you on March 25, 2018, 04:06:02 PM
if you do nothing else this week read this....its amazing

http://bostonreview.net/race-gender-sexuality/walter-johnson-guns-family
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: AO1 on March 26, 2018, 09:23:56 AM
It's a farging disgrace a bunch of high school kids can watch 17 classmates gunned down, want change, then be criticized. David Hogg is a crisis actor who's actually 25 years old (been debunked, the morons still trot it out there), Emma Gonzalez is making a speech with a Cuban flag patch on her jacket...you know...because her heritage is Cuban...so lets just ignore her actual message. "They want our guns taken away"...nice strawman you farging iceholes. They want change, none of them have ever mentioned taking all guns away. "There are already laws on the books but they're not enforced"...yes you dumbfargs, they're not working, they're asking for laws that DO work. "They eat tide pods". Go farg yourself. Every generation did stupid shtein. "Ask the Jews in Germany if they wish they had guns during Hitlers reign"...these farging idiots are delusional. "Stop infringing on my 2nd amendment rights...it's my "right"...but I'll criticize you and try to silence you for peacefully exercising your 1st amendment rights.

/rant over
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: ice grillin you on March 26, 2018, 09:56:54 AM
yeah the vitriol on saturday was absolutely sickening on twitter...i on very rare occasions will respond or beef on twitter with anyone....i generally use it as an information source and read articles that are posted but i had to go at multiple people on sat it was so gross

the issue of gun control aside i dont know how you couldnt be unbelievably impressed with those speakers....there were farging 11 year olds speaking in between performances from pop stars to over a half a million people and giving goose bumps....i still couldn't pee straight at 11...

i got the sense that the haters on saturday were more jealous than they were mad about potential gun control...like they were so salty about the attention the kids were getting...otherwise why would you go at them in such a personal way that went way above and beyond the issue

if you think about it other than perhaps a pro life march in the 80's when does the right ever get to coalesce and be a part of something that big and that special....they get tiki torches the left gets saturday or the womens march...id probably be a little angry too
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: hunt on March 26, 2018, 02:25:32 PM
MILWAUKEE -- The San Antonio Spurs were in Milwaukee on Sunday for an afternoon matchup with the Milwaukee Bucks. Before the game, Spurs coach Gregg Popovich -- no stranger to voicing his opinions on the current political and social issues -- shared his thoughts on the student-led marches against gun violence that took place across the country on Saturday.

Popovich was asked specifically about what he thought the marches meant for the future of the country, but expounded further on the need for the country to reflect, and the lack of leadership from current politicians.

Popovich's full response:

Well, the future of the country is a pretty big thing. There's not one event that is going to signal what it's going to be like in the future. But I can tell you that I'm sure most everybody is going to be unbelievably proud and excited about those students and what they've done. Because our politicians have certainly sat on their thumbs and just hidden. To most, it's almost like a dereliction of duty to watch all these people get killed with guns -- in so many different ways, whether it's nightclubs, or schools, or cities. And it seems that the power and the money are more important than the lives. So to see these teenagers demand this, it takes you back.

You think about it, the civil rights movement didn't flip or change until people saw things on TV. They saw policemen with fire hoses and dogs biting old black men and women, people being beaten with sticks. Then you get to the Vietnam War, and we're in it forever, and then what happens? Film starts coming back with arms and legs blown off and coffins, and I can still remember the little girl who was napalmed running down the road. Things change when that happens. And in this one, in this situation, these students are the same way. Images are important. Obviously you can't put an image on TV of what happened in that classroom, that would be pretty horrifying.

But if you just sit for a moment and imagine those bullets going through those bodies, and what those bodies might have looked like afterwards, how can the president of the country talk about all the things he's going to do, and then go have lunch with the NRA and change it? It's just cowardice. A real leader would have been in Washington D.C. this weekend, not at his penthouse at Mar-a-Lago. He would have had the decency to meet with a group, to see what's going on, and how important it is, and how important our children should be to us. So for all those politicians involved, it's just a dereliction of duty.

They can talk about the age limit, and background checks and all that, but the real discussion is what kind of a country, what kind of a culture do we want? You go back and investigate the second amendment. What does it really mean today? What are we willing to give up for the safety of our children. The people in power don't want to talk about that. The fact that our president left town, is a real indication of how much he really cares about anything other than feeding his insatiable ego.

Popovich was not the only member of the NBA community to show support for marches.

In a tweet, Warriors coach Steve Kerr thanked "the young generation for inspiring all of us and reminding us that change will only happen through our own will." Additionally, the Philadelphia 76ers' Ben Simmons wore a "March For Our Lives" shirt before the Sixers' game against the Timberwolves, and Carmelo Anthony helped bus 4,500 kids from Baltimore to D.C. for the march.

 :yay pop!
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: MDS on March 27, 2018, 09:27:15 AM
pennsyltucky doing pennsyltucky things....wait WHAT

https://t.co/1hZzV2oDkP
Title: Re: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: Diomedes on March 27, 2018, 09:46:15 AM
That article is actually pretty good.  Lots of direct quotes, gives a nice idea what went down, who was there, etc.  Local reporting FTW.

I like this part, after someone suggests a bake sale:

NRA* sympathizer:  "$5,000 is a lot of money."   

Mother in crowd:  "I'll write a check for $100 right now."




*(btw...does the R stand for "Russia?"  That's a different subject, but we're gonna find out.)
Title: Re: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: Diomedes on March 27, 2018, 10:15:27 AM
Good guy with gun didn't kill the MD high school shooter last week (though he did try).  Kid shot himself.  The weapon he used was legally owned by his father, who the NRA would have us believe is an upstanding, law-abiding gun owner whose rights ought to be respected. 

I think he ought to be jailed.
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: ice grillin you on March 27, 2018, 10:16:55 AM
because the college is right there stroudsburg isnt true pennsyltucky...they arent a bastion of liberalism but they are somewhat enlightened and humanistic compared to most of PAT

in fact monroe county went for clinton because of that area
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: AO1 on March 27, 2018, 11:12:52 AM
pennsyltucky doing pennsyltucky things....wait WHAT

https://t.co/1hZzV2oDkP

They have a rifle team, the NRA is the "National Rifle Association". Their schools rifles are from 1970. Two students applied to the NRA for a grant. They were approved. The money is going to good use. While I wholeheartedly agree with this statement:

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“I didn’t want to bring national politics into this but unfortunately we have no choice,” Reincke said. “The NRA is a group that has transformed from a bunch of people who liked hunting in the ’50s to something that quite frankly is a hateful, divisive group that seeks nothing but to push guns on people.”

I disagree with not accepting money from an organization that benefits the students interests and at least in this instance is promoting responsible gun safety. You're all gonna brush me off and laugh but it's bullshtein like this why we have Trump in office. America is tired of overly pc bullshtein and this is a prime example. The 2nd amendment is a right and I know plenty of Democrats (myself included) who own a firearm. This isn't Dana Loesch being a funhole, it's the NRA allocating funds that benefit students and promotes responsible use of a firearm.
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: ice grillin you on March 27, 2018, 11:23:26 AM
little talked about fact is how racist the NRA is,...not all its members but as an organization....take the 2A/gun control debate out of it....they are an all around despicable organization and shouldn't get a dollar from anyone
Title: Re: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: Diomedes on March 27, 2018, 11:28:13 AM
MAGA bullshtein


You agree that the NRA is a "hateful, divisive" group but you think taking their money isn't an endorsement of them?

Not very good thinking, I'm afraid.

By this logic you would accept a donation from the KKK for new bases at the local ballpark?  Or free money from MS-13 to aerate and over-seed the local soccer pitch?

Come on with the complaining about PC shtein.  People don't want the NRAs money because--as they said--it's blood money. 

This is the NRA:  https://youtu.be/PrnIVVWtAag

These people are not respectable.  Their organization is radical, bordering on terror-propagandists. 
Title: Re: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: AO1 on March 27, 2018, 11:43:06 AM
MAGA bullshtein


You agree that the NRA is a "hateful, divisive" group but you think taking their money isn't an endorsement of them?

Not very good thinking, I'm afraid.

By this logic you would accept a donation from the KKK for new bases at the local ballpark?  Or free money from MS-13 to aerate and over-seed the local soccer pitch?

Come on with the complaining about PC shtein.  People don't want the NRAs money because--as they said--it's blood money.

These people are not respectable.  Their organization is radical, bordering on terror-propagandists.

The NRA is a legalized non-profit organization, the KKK and MS-13 are not.

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About The NRA Foundation

The heart of The NRA Foundation’s mission is preserving the core of our American values and traditions in our steadfast effort to Teach Freedom.

Established in 1990, The NRA Foundation, Inc. (“NRA Foundation”) is a 501(c)(3) tax-exempt organization that raises tax-deductible contributions in support of a wide range of firearm-related public interest activities of the National Rifle Association of America and other organizations that defend and foster the Second Amendment rights of all law-abiding Americans. These activities are designed to promote firearms and hunting safety, to enhance marksmanship skills of those participating in the shooting sports, and to educate the general public about firearms in their historic, technological and artistic context. Funds granted by The NRA Foundation benefit a variety of constituencies throughout the United States including children, youth, women, individuals with physical disabilities, gun collectors, law enforcement officers, hunters and competitive shooters.

This is their actual purpose ^^^^. In this instance, they're actually following their mission statement to promote responsible firearm use. Is the NRA going to their school to solicit membership? It's not an endorsement of the NRA by accepting money for a rifle program. If the NRA was giving money to homeless shelters would homeless shelters shun the donation because it's "blood money"? If the school is so anti-NRA, then abolish the rifle team altogether.
Title: Re: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: Diomedes on March 27, 2018, 11:49:52 AM

The NRA is a legalized non-profit organization, the KKK and MS-13 are not.


Fine, nevermind the analogy I'm drawing.  Explain yourself:  How do you square taking money from a group you consider "hateful and divisive."  How is that not an endorsement of the organization.

NRA can't have it both ways.  You can't put out videos like the one I posted and also claim to be some kind of benevolent association of decent people.
Title: Re: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: Diomedes on March 27, 2018, 11:51:46 AM
If the school is so anti-NRA, then abolish the rifle team altogether.


Ha.  Get out of here with this crap.  The NRA doesn't have a monopoly on guns.  You know this.
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: ice grillin you on March 27, 2018, 11:55:49 AM
their purpose is to get as many guns into the hands of americans as humanly possible...by any means necessary....just because a small percentage of those means are masked in goodwill doesnt make the abhorrent nature of the organization go away

they are a terrible organization who deals in propaganda fear racism and many other loathsome tactics as and end to their means and should be abolished

Title: Re: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: AO1 on March 27, 2018, 01:01:24 PM

The NRA is a legalized non-profit organization, the KKK and MS-13 are not.


Fine, nevermind the analogy I'm drawing.  Explain yourself:  How do you square taking money from a group you consider "hateful and divisive."  How is that not an endorsement of the organization.

NRA can't have it both ways.  You can't put out videos like the one I posted and also claim to be some kind of benevolent association of decent people.

Because even though I disagree with the organization on most issues, in this instance they're using their legal non-profit organization for good. "Blood money" is the NRA using it's organization to lobby against bump stock bans. Donating rifles to a school to replace rifles that are almost 50 years old isn't accepting "blood money". It's actually utilizing the organization for what it was intended for.

And I don't understand how a school would endorse the NRA by accepting money for their rifle program. Is the school waving NRA banners, handing out bumper stickers and showing up to gun rallies? They're utilizing the organization to help their school program. The parents aren't against having the rifles in their schools, in fact they're willing to give donations. So where's the issue? Again, if the NRA was to donate money to homeless shelters should those shelters shun the donations?

Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: ice grillin you on March 27, 2018, 01:10:17 PM
its not for good its for business...they are being joe camel with guns by trying to get involved in the schools

if you accept money from a group thats at best tacit approval and at worst a full out endorsement

and yes if the nra was trying to arm all homeless people (and they would be if the homeless could afford guns) then the shelter should tell them to go farg themselves
Title: Re: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: Diomedes on March 27, 2018, 01:10:38 PM
...f the NRA was to donate money to homeless shelters should those shelters shun the donations?

I should hope they would.

We'll just agree to disagree on this then, friend.
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: AO1 on March 27, 2018, 02:11:13 PM
its not for good its for business...they are being joe camel with guns by trying to get involved in the schools

if you accept money from a group thats at best tacit approval and at worst a full out endorsement

and yes if the nra was trying to arm all homeless people (and they would be if the homeless could afford guns) then the shelter should tell them to go farg themselves

The guns are already in the schools though. Are they sending Cowboy Dan to the school to deliver the rifles and advertise gun sales? Guns are already "Camel Joe'd" to kids through movies and television. The NRA can't begin to compete with the entertainment industry in that regard.

If the NRA wanted to send food to a homeless shelter would the shelter shun the donation because they consider the source "blood money"? The question here isn't the guns, the school, parents and community have no issue with the school rifle club. So what difference does it make if the NRA is promoting gun safety or donating rifles to a school?

...f the NRA was to donate money to homeless shelters should those shelters shun the donations?

I should hope they would.

We'll just agree to disagree on this then, friend.

All good. For the record, I'm pro 2nd amendment but anti NRA and want common sense gun laws.
Title: Re: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: Diomedes on March 27, 2018, 02:23:41 PM
I am increasingly anti-2A altogether.  Gun owners have proven incapable of the responsibility.  I think it would be best to ban all handguns and most long guns, confiscate them, jail people who possess them past a certain point, etc.  Enough is enough.

We agree that people shouldn't have hand grenades and it turns out that most people shouldn't have guns either.
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: ice grillin you on March 27, 2018, 02:28:30 PM
I am increasingly anti-2A altogether.  Gun owners have proven incapable of the responsibility.  I think it would be best to ban all handguns and most long guns, confiscate them, jail people who possess them past a certain point, etc.  Enough is enough.

We agree that people shouldn't have hand grenades and it turns out that most people shouldn't have guns either.

amen

that shtein shouldnt be a right

its not for good its for business...they are being joe camel with guns by trying to get involved in the schools

if you accept money from a group thats at best tacit approval and at worst a full out endorsement

and yes if the nra was trying to arm all homeless people (and they would be if the homeless could afford guns) then the shelter should tell them to go farg themselves

The guns are already in the schools though. Are they sending Cowboy Dan to the school to deliver the rifles and advertise gun sales? Guns are already "Camel Joe'd" to kids through movies and television. The NRA can't begin to compete with the entertainment industry in that regard.

they dont compete at all though....hollywood sells entertainment....the NRA peddles messages of fear and hate to sell weapons of mass destruction
Title: Re: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: AO1 on March 27, 2018, 03:07:24 PM
I am increasingly anti-2A altogether.  Gun owners have proven incapable of the responsibility.  I think it would be best to ban all handguns and most long guns, confiscate them, jail people who possess them past a certain point, etc.  Enough is enough.

We agree that people shouldn't have hand grenades and it turns out that most people shouldn't have guns either.

Hand guns for home defense should be legal but strictly regulated. Anything considered a rifle (anything with a shoulder stock) should be banned for normal citizens. You want to go hunting? Rent a rifle for the day. Like shooting ARs? Go to a range and rent one to shoot for the day.
Title: Re: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: Diomedes on March 27, 2018, 03:17:02 PM
https://www.cnn.com/2018/03/27/politics/john-paul-stevens-second-amendment/index.html

Republican.  Nixon put him on Court of Appeals 7th District, Ford put him on Supreme Court.

Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: phattymatty on March 27, 2018, 03:37:17 PM
Best sign I saw at the gun march was "I wish Obama took all of your guns"

And damn were those kids good.



Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: Munson on March 27, 2018, 07:13:26 PM
https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2017/10/12/16418524/us-gun-policy-nra?utm_campaign=vox.social&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter&utm_content=1521838710

Reminder that the NRA isn't the NRA of old.


Also, I'd ban handguns and assault-style weapons, but keep bolt action style rifles and some shotguns legal but regulated.
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: Rome on March 27, 2018, 07:22:11 PM
“Due to the high cost of ammo, don’t expect a warning shot.” 

“Blue Lives Matter”

Bumper stickers I saw on a car earlier. 

Vomit. 
Title: Re: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: General_Failure on March 27, 2018, 07:53:15 PM
(https://img0.etsystatic.com/055/0/8423669/il_570xN.745517476_n29n.jpg)

I saw one of these bad boys on the back of a truck the other day, and that's really all I need to know about the guy driving it.
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: Tomahawk on March 27, 2018, 09:58:20 PM
How do you know it wasn't a woman?
Title: Re: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: General_Failure on March 27, 2018, 10:01:10 PM
Because he also had a monster energy drink decal.
Title: Re: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: Tomahawk on March 27, 2018, 10:01:25 PM

The NRA is a legalized non-profit organization, the KKK and MS-13 are not.


Fine, nevermind the analogy I'm drawing.  Explain yourself:  How do you square taking money from a group you consider "hateful and divisive."  How is that not an endorsement of the organization.

Reconciliation comes through taking money from them; endorsement comes through donating to them
Title: Re: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: Diomedes on March 28, 2018, 08:07:00 AM
Turns out that the shooter in the St. Mary's, MD school got the gun from his father, who bought it legally.

It's an a priori truth that the shooting could not have happened if the kid didn't have a gun.

So.

Either:

a.) the father failed in his duty to secure the weapon from falling into a child's possession

OR

b.) The Father did everything required by law and perhaps even more...but the child got the gun anyway, providing further evidence to support the claim that you can't safely keep guns; people who shouldn't have them can always get them.

If the former, then the shooter's father should be charged and imprisoned--his son's demise isn't enough punishment for the risk he subjected us all to by being so careless with a grave threat to public health.

If it's the latter, perhaps John Paul Stevens and others who argue for a radical change in the interpretation of 2A, or even its repeal, have the right of it.

We don't have to accept that kids are going to get guns and shoot each other with them in schools, where armed guards patrol and shoot back at them. We are not helpless before the onslaught; guns everywhere is not inevitable.
Title: Re: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: ice grillin you on March 28, 2018, 08:14:45 AM
his son's demise isn't enough punishment for the risk he subjected us all to

especially the girl who like died
Title: Re: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: Diomedes on March 28, 2018, 08:18:37 AM
Gun nuts would say you can't blame the father, he wasn't the shooter.

I've had enough of these people.
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: Rome on March 28, 2018, 12:30:47 PM
I would gladly turn in my weapons if everyone else did as well.  Not gonna happen, so...
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: ice grillin you on March 28, 2018, 12:48:28 PM
gotta keep those guns around for the purge
Title: Re: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: Diomedes on April 03, 2018, 11:40:44 AM
oh look, another law abiding gun owner

http://wnep.com/2018/04/02/5-year-old-killed-7-year-old-brother-after-finding-gun-while-looking-for-easter-candy-family-says/
Title: Re: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: General_Failure on April 13, 2018, 12:18:09 AM
Arm the teachers. Stoneman Douglas teacher arrested after leaving gun in public bathroom (https://www.cnn.com/2018/04/12/us/parkland-teacher-gun-trnd/index.html?sr=twCNN041218parkland-teacher-gun-trnd0519PMVODtop)

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A teacher at the Parkland, Florida, high school where 17 students and teachers were shot to death was arrested for allegedly leaving a loaded gun in a public bathroom.

A homeless man is accused of picking it up and firing it.

According to a Broward County Sheriff's report, Sean Simpson removed his 9mm Glock pistol while using the bathroom at the Deerfield Beach Pier on Sunday and forgot it in the stall when he left to wash his hands.
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: Tomahawk on April 13, 2018, 09:22:09 AM
Seriously how badly do you have to shtein to use a restroom like that??
Title: Re: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: Diomedes on April 27, 2018, 05:50:41 PM
(https://i.redd.it/2zsoxdsbcgu01.jpg)
Title: Re: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: General_Failure on May 12, 2018, 01:10:12 AM
https://twitter.com/FOXLA/status/994959955248664576
Title: Re: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: General_Failure on July 24, 2018, 04:40:43 PM
LAPD officer fired bullet that killed Trader Joe's employee during weekend standoff, chief says (http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-trader-joe-shooting-20180724-story.html)
Title: Re: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: Diomedes on July 24, 2018, 05:55:05 PM
If you're gonna tolerate regular gunfire mayhem, then you're gonna have some "good guys with guns" shooting innocent people by accident.  Goes with the territory.
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: Tomahawk on July 24, 2018, 11:10:50 PM
We don't tolerate regular gunfire mayhem; we throw thoughts and prayers towards that bullshtein. The "innocent" should have gotten out of the way of the bullet
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: smeags on July 25, 2018, 07:48:02 AM
this country needs armed guards at trader joe's.


#waynelapierre
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: smeags on August 15, 2018, 11:57:06 AM
https://6abc.com/walmart-shooting-suspect-apologizes-bail-set-at-$1m/3957670/ (https://6abc.com/walmart-shooting-suspect-apologizes-bail-set-at-$1m/3957670/)

Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: Tomahawk on August 15, 2018, 12:19:31 PM
Less school shootings; more Walmart shootings
Title: Re: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: General_Failure on August 18, 2018, 12:53:23 AM
http://www.sun-sentinel.com/local/palm-beach/fl-pn-shots-fired-high-school-football-wellington-20180817-story.html#
Title: Re: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: General_Failure on August 28, 2018, 08:05:35 PM
Which thread do police shootings and their news go in, anyway?

https://twitter.com/TexasTribune/status/1034533216290594816
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: Rome on August 28, 2018, 08:12:35 PM
Trump pardon countdown starts in 5...4...3...
Title: Re: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: Eagaholic on August 28, 2018, 09:26:25 PM
Trump replaces Sessions with Oliver in 3..2..1..
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: hunt on September 21, 2018, 09:42:26 AM
so there were threats on social media about some boys shooting up the pep rally today at my kid's high school...great.  yeah, it's probably some dumb kid acting like an ahole on snapchat or some shtein...but why take that chance?  i kept my kid home.
it was either that or send him to school with a gun...i've heard that makes things safer.
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on September 21, 2018, 02:46:36 PM
Obviously you gotta strap up hunt jr

or get a kid themed bullet proof vest
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: ice grillin you on September 25, 2018, 12:05:22 PM
its crazy to see on paper just what kind of other level baltimore is on....

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Dn5BjE4XsAY8rRM.jpg)
Title: Re: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: Diomedes on September 25, 2018, 01:03:55 PM
literally double the rate of Memphis, #3 on the list.   

In Baltimore, you can kill a federal state's witness and probably not get caught.
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: smeags on September 25, 2018, 03:01:02 PM
damn that is some crazy shtein.
Title: Re: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: General_Failure on September 25, 2018, 06:45:08 PM
https://twitter.com/MSNBC/status/1044256329722982401
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: ice grillin you on September 30, 2018, 10:56:27 AM
33 murders in Baltimore this month (13 this week).....more than San Francisco has this year...SF has 250,000 more people



Title: Re: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: General_Failure on October 14, 2018, 07:21:45 PM
https://twitter.com/APCentralRegion/status/1051489602454859776
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: MDS on October 14, 2018, 08:21:23 PM
corpus is the florida of texas
Title: Re: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: Diomedes on November 10, 2018, 10:43:55 AM
Here's a gun control idea: 

Given that:  States are increasingly, and wisely, enacting laws that will allow the State to take someone's guns away if they are a threat to themselves or others.  Maryland passed one of these recently and others are doing so as well.

And also given that:  Any number of mass shootings have been perpetrated by folks who, after the fact, are revealed to have been off their fargin' rockers beforehand, and that people knew about it...

Time for Americans to start ratting out the crazies, en masse.  Flood police departments with calls about so-and-so, who has been arrested before for flipping out and beating someone up, and ask that they police take his guns.  Do this for your brother, your sister, you step father, etc.  Now that we can do this, we should be pushing people to call if they have even the slightest idea that an unhinged person is armed.  The former-Marine in Thousand Oaks couldn't have shot people up if his mother, who knew he was in bad shape, had called the cops.  Dude could have gotten some help, no one killed, etc.  Even if the troubled gun owner gets to keep his guns, the calls and requests for help will be recorded and over time as those called are ignored, we'll be able to hold them up as good evidence that more guns should be confiscated.  Or, even better, the calls will be heeded, guns taken away, people's lives saved.
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: ice grillin you on November 10, 2018, 11:29:25 AM
cops had multiple run ins with the marine dood....including domestic disturbances with his mother

they did nothing
Title: Re: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: Diomedes on November 10, 2018, 11:59:20 AM
Exactly.  I'm not crystal on these new "red flag" laws, but my current understanding is that the cops can't initiate a red flag removal of guns, only family members, significant others, etc. can do that.  The mother didn't ask for his guns to be taken away, so nothing was done.

How about we start asking, like..a lot?  How about Bloomberg spends some of his money on a PSA campaign that educates people about how these laws work, and encourage people to "if you see something, say something." 
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on November 10, 2018, 12:39:57 PM
Good idea.

Something has to be done.

I wonder what the reaction is if some big wig af the NRA or a big recipient of their money has a family member killed in one of these shootings.
Title: Re: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: MDS on November 10, 2018, 04:16:33 PM
Here's a gun control idea: 

Given that:  States are increasingly, and wisely, enacting laws that will allow the State to take someone's guns away if they are a threat to themselves or others.  Maryland passed one of these recently and others are doing so as well.

And also given that:  Any number of mass shootings have been perpetrated by folks who, after the fact, are revealed to have been off their fargin' rockers beforehand, and that people knew about it...

Time for Americans to start ratting out the crazies, en masse.  Flood police departments with calls about so-and-so, who has been arrested before for flipping out and beating someone up, and ask that they police take his guns.  Do this for your brother, your sister, you step father, etc.  Now that we can do this, we should be pushing people to call if they have even the slightest idea that an unhinged person is armed.  The former-Marine in Thousand Oaks couldn't have shot people up if his mother, who knew he was in bad shape, had called the cops.  Dude could have gotten some help, no one killed, etc.  Even if the troubled gun owner gets to keep his guns, the calls and requests for help will be recorded and over time as those called are ignored, we'll be able to hold them up as good evidence that more guns should be confiscated.  Or, even better, the calls will be heeded, guns taken away, people's lives saved.

or maybe universal background checks and gun licenses/tests for anybody who wants to own one, like you would with a car. yearly inspections. we have rules in place to prevent dangerous drivers/vehicles from being on the road. maybe just maybe do the same thing with a gun, i dont know
Title: Re: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: Diomedes on November 10, 2018, 05:13:54 PM
It's not "or."  All those things too.  And more.  But I think people aren't appreciating how big these new laws could be.  People ought to be encouraged to use them, to report people, often. 
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: Rome on November 10, 2018, 05:44:16 PM
I love you guys but you are out your asses when it comes to guns.  As long as “they” have them, I’m not giving mine up.   I’m liberal as farg but there is no way they’re taking my shtein from me.

Sorry. 
Title: Re: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: Diomedes on November 10, 2018, 06:08:22 PM
Behave like a grown up and you'll be fine.

Stalk one of your daughter's girlfriends...we're comin' for your guns.
Title: Re: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: Diomedes on November 12, 2018, 08:36:36 PM
https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/the-connection-between-suicides-and-mass-shootings--and-a-way-to-reduce-both/2018/11/12/5d7f1b7e-e690-11e8-a939-9469f1166f9d_story.html?utm_term=.23f9786b2c4a

I'm not the only one who sees the potential in these laws.  Dvorak doesn't call for mass petitioning, or PSAs explaining how to file one (if you see something, say something), like I do, but she's connecting some of the same dots here.
Title: Re: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: General_Failure on November 13, 2018, 01:31:18 PM
https://twitter.com/nytimes/status/1062180529804578817
Title: Re: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: Diomedes on November 13, 2018, 09:15:11 PM
The common denominator in all this bullshtein is guns.

Correction, the most common denominator is people. 

But we can't outlaw people.

Let's outlaw people guys.
Title: Re: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: General_Failure on November 13, 2018, 09:16:53 PM
The south is right behind you on this one.
Title: Re: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: Diomedes on November 13, 2018, 09:22:27 PM
I haven't checked.  I imagine the NRA has opted for the Philando Castile PR strategy, or in other words.."no comment."
Title: Re: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: General_Failure on November 25, 2018, 11:34:14 AM
Black man killed by cop during Alabama mall shooting had gun permit: father (https://globalnews.ca/news/4696417/emantic-bradford-alabama-mall-shooting-police/)

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The father of a black man killed by a police officer during an Alabama mall shooting says his son had a permit to carry a weapon for self-defence.

Twenty-one-year-old Emantic “EJ” Bradford Jr. was fatally shot by a police officer responding to the Thanksgiving night shooting that wounded an 18-year-old and 12-year-old. Hoover police initially thought Bradford, who was carrying a handgun, was responsible. Authorities later said it was unlikely that Bradford had done the shooting.
Title: Re: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: General_Failure on November 28, 2018, 08:47:03 PM
U.S. border Patrol agent sparked $8M Arizona wildfire with gunshot at gender-reveal party (https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2018/11/27/sawmill-fire-explosion-caught-camera-during-gender-reveal-party/2123246002/)

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A video released by the U.S. Forest Service Monday shows how one gunshot started the April 2017 Sawmill Fire that scorched about 45,000 acres in southern Arizona.

The video was filmed by a witness at a gender-reveal party and shows a target that was set up to help reveal whether a newborn would be a boy or girl. A gunshot is heard right before a black square-like target labeled “boy” and “girl” placed over shrubby grasslands explodes and a fire breaks out.
Title: Re: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: General_Failure on December 13, 2018, 10:56:22 AM
Another day, another school shooting.

https://twitter.com/wearrrichmond/status/1073216671811276800
Title: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: Rome on December 14, 2018, 12:39:12 PM
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/12/13/us/florida-stand-your-ground-police.html?module=MoreInSection_AMP

This farging cesspool...
Title: Re: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: General_Failure on January 11, 2019, 06:56:26 PM
https://twitter.com/ABC/status/1083815921142153217
Title: Re: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: General_Failure on January 11, 2019, 08:13:01 PM
Also there's a shooting at the Newport Mall in NJ.
Title: Re: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on January 12, 2019, 08:35:47 AM
https://twitter.com/ABC/status/1083815921142153217

Good

I hope he ends up homeless and begging for money on a corner
Title: Re: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: General_Failure on January 26, 2019, 03:33:17 PM
https://twitter.com/USATODAY/status/1088999971200864256
Title: Re: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: Diomedes on January 26, 2019, 03:48:38 PM


play stupid games win stupid prizes
Title: Re: Re: Random Gun Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread
Post by: General_Failure on February 02, 2019, 05:44:11 PM
https://twitter.com/FloTrack/status/1091741735175237633