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Title: Phillies
Post by: MDS on March 29, 2018, 04:09:31 PM
75 wins
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: AO1 on March 29, 2018, 04:12:19 PM
80
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: ice grillin you on March 29, 2018, 04:17:59 PM
74
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: MDS on March 29, 2018, 04:24:54 PM
nick williams started today because his swing path met that of the way way teheran throws

anyway he struck out
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: Don Ho on March 29, 2018, 05:34:32 PM
80, got your back Jay!

shtein, this game is dull.  Atlanta opening day, lame ass crowd, two bottom teams, guess that isn't going to ignite much excitement. 
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: Rome on March 29, 2018, 05:37:57 PM
nick williams started today because his swing path met that of the way way teheran throws

anyway he struck out

No chance youíre going to mock your fellow stat geek this year.  Own it, kid. 

PS:   Nola is dealing. 

PPS:  83 53 wins.  Book it. 
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: Don Ho on March 29, 2018, 06:13:25 PM
and a wonderful start to 2018 for the bullpen.
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: Rome on March 29, 2018, 06:13:41 PM
Nola threw 68 pitches and got yanked.  Of course the POS who replaced him promptly serves up a seismic shot to Freddie Freeman. 

This is gonna be a long year. 
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: QB Eagles on March 29, 2018, 06:20:46 PM
When your parents name you Hoby, youíre coming into the world with low expectations.
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: Don Ho on March 29, 2018, 06:51:35 PM
Galvis just tied it up in the bottom of the ninth in San Diego with a clutch two out single.  Because you all care.
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: Don Ho on March 29, 2018, 06:53:28 PM
and he kills the rally after being thrown out stealing second.
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: QB Eagles on March 29, 2018, 06:59:06 PM
Not sure if thereís any point trying to change rules to speed up the game when managers are using 12 pitchers in a totally normal opening day game between non-playoff teams.
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: Rome on March 29, 2018, 07:02:02 PM
Good thing Williams and Altherr switched positions on that gopher ball. 
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: Don Ho on March 29, 2018, 07:02:20 PM
Bullpen can kiss my ass
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: Rome on March 29, 2018, 07:08:29 PM
Maybe the aim is to pitch everyone and extend the game as long as possible to sell more hot dogs and shtein?
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: Rome on March 29, 2018, 07:13:55 PM
Chip farging Kapler. 
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: MDS on March 29, 2018, 07:14:47 PM
kaplar with a hof over managing performance
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: QB Eagles on March 29, 2018, 07:15:04 PM
60 wins
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: MDS on March 29, 2018, 07:21:18 PM
anytime you can take your best pitcher out with 60 pitches and a 5 run lead in the 6th inning, its something you have to do
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: Rome on March 29, 2018, 07:23:35 PM
Iím on the verge of overreacting.   Getting done work early to get drunk and watch the Phillies on opening day is usually a good idea. 

Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: Rome on March 29, 2018, 07:24:52 PM
anytime you can take your best pitcher out with 60 pitches and a 5 run lead in the 6th inning, its something you have to do

Not sure if sarcasm.  If not kill yourself with a rusty screwdriver. 
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: MDS on March 29, 2018, 07:26:23 PM
its a good thing pedro florimon hit instead of kingery
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: Don Ho on March 29, 2018, 07:29:58 PM
So the train wreck happens before it even left the station.
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: QB Eagles on March 29, 2018, 07:31:03 PM
Kevin Stocker doing a bad version of LAís ump bashing on the radio. Gonna be a much rougher season audio-wise.
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: Don Ho on March 29, 2018, 07:31:20 PM
Chip farging Kapler.

 :-D :-D
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: Rome on March 29, 2018, 07:33:20 PM
Santana looks like a fat piece of shtein walrus at Sea World whoís eaten too much free fish. 

Nice 0-5 collar, fatso. 
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: MDS on March 29, 2018, 07:33:23 PM
remember when the eagles won the super bowl and embiid's eye wasnt out of its socket
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: QB Eagles on March 29, 2018, 07:42:34 PM
Well, Phillies baseball is definitely back.
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: Don Ho on March 29, 2018, 07:43:40 PM
"It's only the first game" - T Mac
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: MDS on March 29, 2018, 07:44:19 PM
lol man how ive missed the phillies
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: QB Eagles on March 29, 2018, 07:45:01 PM
"It's only the first game" - T Mac

We have 161 more of these to look forward to before they fire Kapler.
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: Rome on March 29, 2018, 07:46:27 PM
At least the chick reporter from the Braves is hot.  Nice cans too. 

Also - fire this farg now.  Donít wait.  Just fire him now.  farg him and his 21st Century Cyberdine Systems stat bullshtein.    Baseball is about more than stats.  Itís about instincts and situational awareness.  Itís also about putting your players in the right spot to beat the other team.  He clearly doesnít understand that.

Fire him now.  Donít bother waiting for July or next year.  Just do it now. 
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: Rome on March 29, 2018, 07:47:51 PM
lol man how ive missed the phillies

Ha.  Agreed.  Way too much winning with the Eagles and Sixers. 
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: MDS on March 29, 2018, 07:51:23 PM
At least the chick reporter from the Braves is hot.  Nice cans too. 

Also - fire this farg now.  Donít wait.  Just fire him now.  farg him and his 21st Centiry stat bullshtein.    Baseball is about more than stats.  Itís about instincts and situational awareness.  Itís also about putting your players in the right spot to beat the other team.  He clearly doesnít understand that.

Fire him now.  Donít bother waiting for July or next year.  Just do it now.

this is an organizational philosophy though kaplar is taking it to the most ridiculous possible degree

taking out nola was an inexcusable move but 2 of your best relief pitchers couldnt get anyone out. your offense shut down after the 6th. lets all just calm down and remember the real focus is joel embiid's face.
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: Rome on March 29, 2018, 07:53:13 PM
Actually youíre right.  Joe Torre couldnít manage a team to a Series win that doesnít have the horses. 

But he wouldnít in his worst farging day do what this clown did tonight. 
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: QB Eagles on March 29, 2018, 07:58:32 PM
I don't think that was 21st century stat-informed management we saw out there today. That was just Gabe disappearing up his own ass. Kaplrmetrics.
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: Rome on March 29, 2018, 08:04:20 PM
Did you see Nick Williams standing in the outfield with a cheat sheet card trying to figure out where to stand?

Holy shtein.  I donít need more than one game to spot a fraud and thatís what this guy is. 
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: AO1 on March 29, 2018, 08:15:58 PM
Chip farging Kapler.

lol

Exactly

Sabremetric bullshtein at its finest. Barkann and the post game crew are destroying Kapler

Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: Don Ho on March 29, 2018, 08:32:10 PM
OK se we had 'The Process" and Big Balls Doug across the street.  WTF do we call this sloppy mess?
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: Rome on March 29, 2018, 08:43:08 PM
AIDS
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: AO1 on March 29, 2018, 09:00:35 PM
Kaplers response to taking Nola out was ďI have confidence in those guysĒ. When pressed he retreated back to the same response. Chip 2.0
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: Geowhizzer on March 29, 2018, 10:36:58 PM
OK se we had 'The Process" and Big Balls Doug across the street.  WTF do we call this sloppy mess?

Clusterfarg.
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: MDS on March 29, 2018, 11:33:25 PM
his reasoning made sense if it was the 7th or 8th inning and you werent bringing in holby farging milner....the numbers dont lie (nola's ops going up each time he went through the order, his career stats vs. freddie) but its a 5-0 game with your best pitcher dealing. i havent the slightest clue whyd youd even be looking at matchup data.

again, over managing and thinking way way too much about shtein. the data really helps in october when its the 5th inning and 4-3...but its april. if he keeps doing this he's going to get booed back to the tanning salon.
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on March 30, 2018, 06:20:19 AM
Over managing because of the stupid goddamn ďanalyticsĒ

Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: MDS on March 30, 2018, 08:38:10 AM
hey j throw me 55 for mlbtv...use your calculator
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: smeags on March 30, 2018, 09:26:40 AM
 :paranoid
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on March 30, 2018, 09:43:06 AM
lol

ok gotcha - I will send it this weeeknd
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: Geowhizzer on March 30, 2018, 10:10:13 AM
his reasoning made sense if it was the 7th or 8th inning and you werent bringing in holby farging milner....the numbers dont lie (nola's ops going up each time he went through the order, his career stats vs. freddie) but its a 5-0 game with your best pitcher dealing. i havent the slightest clue whyd youd even be looking at matchup data.

again, over managing and thinking way way too much about shtein. the data really helps in october when its the 5th inning and 4-3...but its april. if he keeps doing this he's going to get booed back to the tanning salon.

Seems like he's going to do everything by the data.  Come hell or high water.
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: Rome on March 30, 2018, 10:12:39 AM
Narcissistic new age pretty boy body builder bitches with 1 yearís worth of managerial experience in the low minors.  Thatís who the Phillies select with literally dozens of more qualified candidates available.

And Iím not a Herrera fanboy but not starting him was a bush league move. 

This is a disaster waiting to happen.

Save your money, Jay.   

 
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: smeags on March 30, 2018, 10:25:11 AM
this is going to be an enjoyable thread to follow this year.
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: MDS on March 30, 2018, 10:43:25 AM
Seems like he's going to do everything by the data.  Come hell or high water.

baseball is basically just a game of percentages but there is still a pretty large human element to it and if he doesnt see it, he'll be gone quicker than chip

shteins not that hard. dont take out your best pitcher when hes dealing. dont sit your best hitter for a quad a player, then hit that quad a player 3rd. not challenging stuff.

Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: Geowhizzer on March 30, 2018, 10:48:06 AM
Seems like he's going to do everything by the data.  Come hell or high water.

baseball is basically just a game of percentages but there is still a pretty large human element to it and if he doesnt see it, he'll be gone quicker than chip

shteins not that hard. dont take out your best pitcher when hes dealing. dont sit your best hitter for a quad a player, then hit that quad a player 3rd. not challenging stuff.

Fully agreed.  Kapler just seems to have that "smartest man in the room" mentality.  And at least Chip has some track record when he was hired, as well as some degree of success in his first two seasons (10-6 each).

Granted, this is one game into the season, but it was an colossal trainwreck of a debut.
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: smeags on March 30, 2018, 10:51:14 AM
161-1.

there, I said it.
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: Rome on March 30, 2018, 11:19:56 AM
I have a crisp new dollar bill that says that wonít happen. 
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: QB Eagles on March 30, 2018, 12:00:52 PM
There's no analytics that says to pull a dealing ace after 60-something pitches to put in Hoby Milner and Adam Morgan. The problem isn't Bill James so much as a nut-tanning bodybuilder thinking he's Bill James.
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: smeags on March 30, 2018, 02:16:00 PM
I have a crisp new dollar bill that says that wonít happen.

ON bitch !
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: Rome on March 30, 2018, 02:21:15 PM
The most telling thing about this jerkoff is what he said after the game about not being sure heíd do anything different. 

Really?  Oh so your little red book on how to manage by numbers doesnít tell you when to admit when you were wrong?

Chip Kelly with Abs of Steel. 
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: MDS on March 30, 2018, 02:31:03 PM
also his dumbass positive outlook on the world will lead him to believe that everyone is awesome and capable and cause him to trust holby milner like chip kelly trusted josh huff

if he makes incorrect decisions based off data its one thing, if he cant see the talent differences between nola and milner/morgan/ramos then i dont know even know where to begin.
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: smeags on March 30, 2018, 02:31:35 PM
but he's so dreamy.
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: Don Ho on March 30, 2018, 04:10:12 PM
Give me Gabe Kaplan!  Hell, give me Horshack.
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: MDS on March 30, 2018, 09:54:04 PM
good thing he took out nola out so early...pivetta really went deep tonight
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: Rome on March 30, 2018, 09:55:00 PM
Five pitchers used already and they havenít started the 7th inning.  At least Hoskins hit one halfway to Mars tonite. 
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: MDS on March 30, 2018, 09:57:49 PM
Five pitchers used already and they havenít started the 7th inning.  At least Hoskins hit one halfway to Mars tonite.

better take him out for defense
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: MDS on March 30, 2018, 10:48:55 PM
ive got a slight hunch kapler is an idiot

will get back to you
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on March 30, 2018, 11:24:30 PM
This motherfarger is going to use every RP every night isnít he
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: AO1 on March 30, 2018, 11:48:22 PM
He has confidence they can get the job done so yeah
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: AO1 on March 30, 2018, 11:54:05 PM
Should be 2-0
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: MDS on March 31, 2018, 01:18:14 AM
Should be 2-0

should be 1-1....had no business winning tonight. baseball is stupid like that sometimes.
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: ice grillin you on March 31, 2018, 01:26:42 AM
Should be 2-0

nope
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: AO1 on March 31, 2018, 11:47:24 AM
And it only took two games for me to remember why I hate posting in the Phillies thread with Tony Larussa and Billy Beane
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: MDS on March 31, 2018, 03:29:59 PM
be better at baseball knowledge, soy boy
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: AO1 on March 31, 2018, 03:51:09 PM
be better at baseball knowledge, soy boy

This is where I tell you I played baseball my entire life and sabremetrics are for Klentak nerds
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: MDS on March 31, 2018, 04:44:28 PM
High School Harry to the rescue
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: General_Failure on March 31, 2018, 08:48:46 PM
Baseball was a mistake.
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: Don Ho on March 31, 2018, 08:54:58 PM
should be 0-3
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: MDS on March 31, 2018, 10:09:08 PM
lets give vv another year to 'figure it out'
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: QB Eagles on March 31, 2018, 10:35:36 PM
should be 0-3

This one should maybe count as two losses.
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: MDS on March 31, 2018, 10:38:38 PM
first time since ww2 a team used a position player this early in the season to pitch

kapler really off to a hot start
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: QB Eagles on March 31, 2018, 10:40:21 PM
We have 161 more of these to look forward to before they fire Kapler.

Beginning to think I was too generous with the 161.
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: Geowhizzer on March 31, 2018, 11:18:42 PM
Thank God for Villanova to take my mind off this hot garbage.

Sorry, Todd...
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: ice grillin you on March 31, 2018, 11:27:41 PM
they are awful
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: AO1 on April 01, 2018, 12:13:08 AM
Glad we finally got to see Florimon take the mound
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: Geowhizzer on April 01, 2018, 12:16:22 AM
And apparently a "communication breakdown (http://www.nbcsports.com/philadelphia/phillies/field-and-dugout-phillies-embarrassed-3rd-game-season-braves-loss)" led to Milner being brought in without being properly warmed up.

This is a farging disaster thus far.
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: AO1 on April 01, 2018, 10:05:09 AM
Whereís Paul Ryan at to say heís all new to this
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: Rome on April 01, 2018, 11:24:01 AM
I knew Kapler was going to be a disaster but I had no idea it would be this bad.  He literally has no idea what heís doing. 
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: MDS on April 01, 2018, 12:30:41 PM
I knew Kapler was going to be a disaster but I had no idea it would be this bad.  He literally has no idea what heís doing.

chip had the fans eating out of his hand for 2.5 years...gabe hasnt managed 1 home game and everyone wants to murder him

this isnt going to last long
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on April 01, 2018, 12:35:49 PM
Heís a joke.

Ship Klentak out too for hiring him.
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: MDS on April 01, 2018, 12:39:06 PM
it wasnt klentak's decision. it was klentak, mcphail and middleton's.

klentak was probably aggressive on him but he had to win over the other 2 and he did.
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: Don Ho on April 01, 2018, 03:08:54 PM
Yesterday was an all time, well I can't so low as we had realistic expectations for this team but my God it was certainly one off the lowest moments for a Phils manager and his staff.  Charlie had some head scratching shtein but I don't think I've ever seen what I saw yesterday.  The entire free world saw VV had absolutely nothing and not to have had someone up right away was inexcusable.  21 pitchers 28 innings, atta boy Gabe, keep those boys well rested for the post season.  This bullpen will be depleted by Memorial Day.
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: Geowhizzer on April 01, 2018, 03:38:58 PM
I try not to go overboard with reactions, but that was so bad, I'm beginning to wonder how long Kaper will make it.  I'm starting to doubt it will be a full season.
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: Rome on April 01, 2018, 04:26:20 PM
For all the comparisons to Kelly that Iím seeing and saying myself, at least Kelly had a wealth of head coaching experience before he was hired.  He was arrogant and stubborn and his act grew tiresome after a while, but at least he was experienced at some level. 

This guy is just a charlatan and he has absolutely no business managing a big league team, least of all one in a market where the fans will come after him with torches and pitchforks. 
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: AO1 on April 01, 2018, 04:46:08 PM
The Chip comparisons are because of the overuse of analytics and sports science. It pretty much ends there.
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: MDS on April 02, 2018, 12:01:13 AM
lol

ok gotcha - I will send it this weeeknd

you have until a phillies starter is allowed to pitch into the 7th before i change the password

ok let me amend that. you have until tuesday
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: phattymatty on April 02, 2018, 01:36:00 PM
Damn it I had front row seats to Phils-Mets at Citi tonight but of course we get an April snowstorm.
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: Rome on April 02, 2018, 07:53:21 PM
Dougie P is throwing out the first pitch on Tuesday. 
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: Geowhizzer on April 02, 2018, 09:44:18 PM
Dougie P is throwing out the first pitch on Tuesday.

If Kapler doesn't pull him because of his chart...
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: MDS on April 02, 2018, 09:49:28 PM
on the bright side the phillies havent made a pitching change since saturday
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: MDS on April 03, 2018, 02:30:36 PM
this is a really miniscule thing but with the off day, rain out, csn.com exclusive and facebook exclusive, the phillies will go 4 days in between televised games.

when is the last time that happened? the 70s? before prism?
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: Don Ho on April 03, 2018, 04:35:57 PM
Dougie P is throwing out the first pitch on Tuesday.

If Kapler doesn't pull him because of his chart...

 :-D :yay
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: Don Ho on April 03, 2018, 04:36:19 PM
on the bright side the phillies havent made a pitching change since saturday

 :-D :-D :yay :yay
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: Rome on April 04, 2018, 06:29:58 PM
Ridiculous seamhead bullshtein again.  Thank god for the Birds because it might be 50 years before these losers will win again. 
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: Geowhizzer on April 04, 2018, 06:36:57 PM
Missed the Facebook Fiasco.  Glad I did.
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: QB Eagles on April 04, 2018, 06:45:31 PM
Missed the Facebook Fiasco.  Glad I did.

Me too. I hear that it was bad, but was it worse than TMac?
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: MDS on April 04, 2018, 08:10:40 PM
i went to summer camp with the guy who did the game, scott braun. hes not a pbp guy. hes a studio host. was way out of his element doing games. totally missed stuff. they tried way too hard to implement "social media" things. the graphics were way too big. mlb shouldve forced facebook to do a non-exclusive year before taking this on. asburd to expect them to put on a good broadcast with 0 experience.

kruk wasnt taking it seriously and just cracking jokes the entire time...he said farg at one point

also the phillies are bad. how is 165 at bats from rosario enough of a sample size to employ that drastic of a shift? im sure the data was accurate but williams was playing deep 2B. but what difference does it make they cant score.
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: Don Ho on April 05, 2018, 04:14:35 AM
Missed the Facebook Fiasco.  Glad I did.

Me too. I hear that it was bad, but was it worse than TMac?

yes
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: smeags on April 05, 2018, 10:10:41 AM
this guy may be worse than doug moe.
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: MDS on April 06, 2018, 09:27:41 AM
KR did a 2018 managers on the hotseat column and guess who was first

Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on April 06, 2018, 10:52:13 AM
Heyman mentioned that someone in the clubhouse dropped the "we will be fine if the manager gets out of the way"

and now Nick Williams wonders why he doesn't play much "because I guess thats what the computers say." He also said that Coconut Balls texts him ahead of time - he then stays up late playing video games.

Helluva hire!
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: MDS on April 06, 2018, 10:54:57 AM
nick williams doesnt play because he sucks
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: smeags on April 06, 2018, 10:55:32 AM
kapler may not be doing so well early on, but he looks so dreamy doing it.
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on April 06, 2018, 10:56:28 AM
Did the computer tell you that?
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: MDS on April 06, 2018, 10:59:25 AM
no his inability to walk did

their optimal lineup right now is rotating altherr, franco and crawford (one sits). kingery and cesar play every day.
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: ice grillin you on April 06, 2018, 10:33:28 PM
nick williams doesnt play because he sucks

yeah the real question with the phillies is who sucks more their "prospects" or their manager
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: MDS on April 06, 2018, 11:11:45 PM
kingery is legit...hoskins obviously...altherr has had a few bad games but i think hes a good ML level player in some capacity (hes not really a prospect though)

crawford is likely terrible and if he turns out to be decent its likely not worth the 1-2 year investment itll take. his best skills are defense and plate discipline. so hes got a mighty low ceiling. otherwise haisley is the only bat im excited about. arms are wholy unpredictable but sixto gets me a chubber.

in the end i dont think kaplers decision making is going to be a problem. the fact that everyone in the city/clubhouse despises him will be.
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: ice grillin you on April 06, 2018, 11:26:43 PM
so the answer is they mostly all suck prospects and manager

also altherr is not a prospect
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: MDS on April 06, 2018, 11:35:36 PM
most prospects suck or need tons of time to become decent...if youre trying to win like they are now you cant give nick williams 400 at bats to "figure it out."

they have movable, controllable players with some value and tons of salary space. im confident they can add some impact players. to me the key to everything is getting something out of alfaro and nola establishing himself as a top of the rotation starter. finding top flight pitching and decent catchers are really tough.

youve obviously gotta wait the nationals out (this year, maybe next if they keep bryce), but after that they easily could have as good a team as any the division.
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: ice grillin you on April 06, 2018, 11:43:02 PM
they have utter garbage to be good within three years....but to be fair a lot of it has to do with having top picks in drafts that were horrid
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: MDS on April 07, 2018, 12:06:40 AM
the corny randy/mickey moniak b2b could well kill them.

you know what can help? giving manny 400 mil
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: ice grillin you on April 07, 2018, 12:07:57 AM
the corny randy/mickey moniak b2b could well kill them.

yeah this is just disgraceful
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: AO1 on April 07, 2018, 09:05:39 AM
Just a reminder

http://www.concretefield.info/forum/index.php?topic=22037.0
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: Munson on April 07, 2018, 09:03:35 PM
Where the bugs bunny gif tho
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: ice grillin you on April 07, 2018, 09:32:42 PM
if alfaro can reach even a slightly below average walk rate he could be ridiculous
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: Don Ho on April 07, 2018, 09:59:16 PM
Where the bugs bunny gif tho

Get on it Geo!
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: ice grillin you on April 07, 2018, 10:24:16 PM
holy shtein looking at the box score today jake thompson got a save....is there anything so bad and so good at the same time as baseball stats
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: Geowhizzer on April 07, 2018, 10:54:40 PM
(http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c388/geowhizzer/gashousegorillas.gif)

Happy?


And here's Franco's hit:
(http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c388/geowhizzer/BaseballBugs2.gif)
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: QB Eagles on April 07, 2018, 11:07:43 PM
So -13 in the first VV start, +19 in the next...
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: MDS on April 08, 2018, 03:51:01 PM
went to the bank last night, some cool new things

-have a wiffle bat game for kids where bulls bbq used to be. if any of you are dumb and have small kids theyll dig
-there are 2 rather large areas on the edge of ashburn alley with nothing and are just there for people to aimlessly stand and lines to form.
-the wall of fame moved to the lf entrance. much easier to see. there are small number statues of the retired numbers. this whole thing is neat.
-bulls and some other jawns are now down the 3b line
-dont eat ballpark food its crap
-where the wall of fame used to be is now seating/standing area where you can get a better view of the visiting pen and drunkenly yell things at annomyous middle relievers
-20 runs wow
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: Don Ho on April 09, 2018, 08:52:44 PM
Murph just went to the revamped Ashburn Alley.  He stopped by the P.J. Whelihan's, Christ I knew it was expensive but damn, basket of 6 wings and a beer going to set you back $20 - $25.   
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: AO1 on April 09, 2018, 10:15:49 PM
louisville slugger Nick

Filter lol
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: Don Ho on April 10, 2018, 02:01:55 AM
What did Hal the computer say about that Williams dinger? 
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on April 10, 2018, 06:11:36 AM
I was told Nick Williams sucks
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: ice grillin you on April 10, 2018, 08:32:26 AM
I was told Nick Williams sucks

i was told jp crawford was the best
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: MDS on April 10, 2018, 10:28:37 AM
I was told Nick Williams sucks

i was told you were going to paypal me for the mlbtv youre using
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: AO1 on April 10, 2018, 11:20:54 AM
I was told there'd be Asian Porn
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: Rome on April 10, 2018, 01:38:07 PM
(https://media.giphy.com/media/rjDoJQN7kt8pq/giphy.gif)
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on April 10, 2018, 02:36:46 PM
I was told Nick Williams sucks

i was told you were going to paypal me for the mlbtv youre using

I haven't used it yet this year...have been using my DTV EI package.

Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: MDS on April 10, 2018, 03:38:32 PM
I was told Nick Williams sucks

i was told you were going to paypal me for the mlbtv youre using

I haven't used it yet this year...have been using my DTV EI package.



so after 2 years you now want to shell out the $ for EI....yea and im following nola's win totals
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: ice grillin you on April 10, 2018, 04:22:26 PM
I was told Nick Williams sucks

i was told you were going to paypal me for the mlbtv youre using

I haven't used it yet this year...have been using my DTV EI package.

speaking of loot dont forget that last 10 for fbb
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on April 10, 2018, 05:16:58 PM
Last 10? I'm confused.

EI was free and I haven't been home much at night to be honest so I've been using the free trial they gave me
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: ice grillin you on April 10, 2018, 06:11:01 PM
not sure if you got it but i sent you a follow up message after i originally forgot to remind you to add an extra ten for last place penalty....you only paid the entry fee
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: Munson on April 10, 2018, 08:45:14 PM
https://twitter.com/phillies/status/983867503855243264 21
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: Don Ho on April 10, 2018, 09:45:00 PM
Kingery Grand Slam!
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: Don Ho on April 10, 2018, 09:46:11 PM
Billy Hamilton is a damn good ball player. 
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: Geowhizzer on April 10, 2018, 10:00:39 PM
Nice start by Nola tonight.  Amazing that Kapler let him go eight innings.  His bullpen finger must be getting twitchy.
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: MDS on April 11, 2018, 09:29:45 AM
EI was free and I haven't been home much at night to be honest so I've been using the free trial they gave me

phillyphreakcasual54
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on April 11, 2018, 07:19:07 PM
Iím home to watch tonight!

Iím moving to a new apartment in my complex later this month. I donít know if I can have DTV there bc of the way it faces. If not then Iíll be in on mlb tv
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: Don Ho on April 11, 2018, 07:34:42 PM
Iím home to watch tonight!

Iím moving to a new apartment in my complex later this month. I donít know if I can have DTV there bc of the way it faces. If not then Iíll be in on mlb tv

Thought only Hawaii had that problem.  Next icehole at Costco who asks me if I want to get DTV gets kicked in the genitals after I ask if them if that includes the fee to blow up the 800 foot extinct volcanic crater next to our home blocking the feed.
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: MDS on April 11, 2018, 07:38:21 PM
Iím home to watch tonight!

Iím moving to a new apartment in my complex later this month. I donít know if I can have DTV there bc of the way it faces. If not then Iíll be in on mlb tv

the EI free preview was for 1 week....you LYIN
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: MDS on April 11, 2018, 07:41:16 PM
jp hi
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on April 11, 2018, 09:56:47 PM
Iím home to watch tonight!

Iím moving to a new apartment in my complex later this month. I donít know if I can have DTV there bc of the way it faces. If not then Iíll be in on mlb tv

the EI free preview was for 1 week....you LYIN

I have it for a month bc I complained about Sunday ticket and how I couldnít get it to work on my app for multiple weeks
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: ice grillin you on April 11, 2018, 10:02:42 PM
my god odubel
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: MDS on April 11, 2018, 10:05:16 PM
Iím home to watch tonight!

Iím moving to a new apartment in my complex later this month. I donít know if I can have DTV there bc of the way it faces. If not then Iíll be in on mlb tv

the EI free preview was for 1 week....you LYIN

I have it for a month bc I complained about Sunday ticket and how I couldnít get it to work on my app for multiple weeks

(http://static.politifact.com.s3.amazonaws.com/rulings/tom-mostlyfalse.png)
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: AO1 on April 11, 2018, 10:58:46 PM
KINGery does it again
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: MDS on April 11, 2018, 11:03:27 PM
bad thing is they only play the reds 3 more times
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: ice grillin you on April 12, 2018, 08:01:26 AM
the schedule in general this month is a joke...if they have any notions at all about getting a wild card they better work april good
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: Rome on April 14, 2018, 07:38:01 PM
Welp, they workin the Rays good.  Great googly moogly.
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: MDS on April 14, 2018, 07:58:56 PM
the rays are a really bad team but baby steps huh
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: Don Ho on April 14, 2018, 08:25:30 PM
the rays are a really bad team but baby steps huh

How does this franchise survive?  This shtein box arena they play in is an embarrassment to baseball.  Move to Las Vegas already.
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: ice grillin you on April 14, 2018, 09:26:11 PM
the nats are two games back
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: MDS on April 15, 2018, 05:00:01 PM
survived some over managing from kapler today

helps that the rays are quite horrible
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: AO1 on April 15, 2018, 05:19:11 PM
Iím assuming the guy chanting Letís go Flyers doesnít have a smart phone. Stick with the E-A-G-L-E-S homie
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: MDS on April 18, 2018, 10:09:39 AM
if the season ended today your phillies would host the wc game
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: ice grillin you on April 18, 2018, 10:46:09 AM
they also would have exactly two wins over teams with a winning record and that team is the braves
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: MDS on April 18, 2018, 02:27:40 PM
if they beat the crap out of bad teams and dont get embarrassed by good teams they can still get to 80 wins or more because like 10 teams in mlb are trying this year
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: Rome on April 18, 2018, 05:45:39 PM
Arent mediocre teams like the Phils supposed to beat bad teams?

Asking for a friend. 
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: QB Eagles on April 18, 2018, 06:05:42 PM
Pretty sure this is peak optimism for the whole season right now. Enjoy it while it lasts.
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: Don Ho on April 18, 2018, 06:55:00 PM
So do they make a hat or t-shirt that says "1/10 the season Wild Card Champs"?  shtein they make a celebratory hat/shirt for everything these days why not for this great accomplishmnet?
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: Rome on April 20, 2018, 04:05:25 AM
Arrieta was making the Bucs look like fools last night.  That sinker of his is ridiculous.  Best moment was JP scoring Friday from first on a single.  Looked like something youíd see in Little League. 
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: ice grillin you on April 20, 2018, 07:22:35 AM
they played last night?
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: MDS on April 20, 2018, 09:09:57 AM
not only did they play they finally used their optimal lineup and scored 7 runs

go away mike franco
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: Rome on April 20, 2018, 12:32:35 PM
they played last night?

Itís what the white folks watched
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: smeags on April 20, 2018, 02:18:15 PM

go away mike franco

 :yay
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: MDS on April 20, 2018, 03:36:12 PM
their 5-9 tonight is altherr, knapp, franco, lively, crawford which is a complete abomination
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: Geowhizzer on April 20, 2018, 04:34:03 PM
their 5-9 tonight is altherr, knapp, franco, lively, crawford which is a complete abomination

You're not enamored with Altherr's sparkling .098 batting average?
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: QB Eagles on April 20, 2018, 05:20:38 PM
If that was my whole lineup, I'd be tempted to bat Lively cleanup.
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: MDS on April 21, 2018, 01:48:01 PM
2-0 when i go

i know i know youre welcome
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: Don Ho on April 22, 2018, 03:52:59 AM
J, Rome, Geo and I will pay your way to the next 70 home games.
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: Geowhizzer on April 22, 2018, 08:03:09 AM
J, Rome, Geo and I will pay your way to the next 70 home games.

Unfortunately, on a teacher's salary, I might be able to buy him a hot dog.  If I take out a loan...
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: MDS on April 22, 2018, 06:26:55 PM
the phillies pitching might be good
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: Rome on April 22, 2018, 07:23:53 PM
10 come from behind wins already.  Thatís not sustainable but thereís no use in worrying about it either.  Letís just enjoy it while it lasts. 
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: Geowhizzer on April 22, 2018, 08:04:26 PM
It's amazing that they're 14-7 with the offensive problems they've had.  The starting pitching 1-4 has been no less than stellar thus far.  If the bats can get it going, this could be a much more fun season than I anticipated.
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: Rome on April 22, 2018, 08:09:18 PM
Iím more impressed with how theyíve played despite having a Scientologist freakboy as a manager.  Seriously, every time he speaks, I cringe.  He makes me pine for the homespun turn of phrase days of Gomer Manuel.
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: ice grillin you on April 22, 2018, 09:09:11 PM
may 4, 5, 6 phils at nats is gonna be fire
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: MDS on April 24, 2018, 11:48:25 AM
just gonna leave this here

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Dbe0Lm9W0AMipBy.jpg)
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: Don Ho on April 24, 2018, 08:15:45 PM
VV gives up back to back dongs.  Don't worry IGY, I have the Sixers game on the big TV, bums relegated to iPad
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: ice grillin you on April 25, 2018, 07:27:18 AM
sixers bandwagon is full

and we saw last night what will ultimately happen over the next month when the phillies play good teams
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: MDS on April 25, 2018, 09:26:38 AM
yes when their 4th best pitcher cant get the bottom of the order out theyll lose games
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: ice grillin you on April 25, 2018, 10:09:33 AM
yeah and the line up struck out a thousand times

bad teams play good teams bad things happen
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: MDS on April 25, 2018, 10:16:09 AM
theyre going to strike out a lot just simply based on the way they play. taking a lot of pitches and working deep counts results in a lot of strikeouts (but also walks).

obviously it was at a bit of an extreme last night. kingery going through some rookie struggles doesnt help. alfaro being quite possibly the worst hitter in baseball doesnt either.
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: ice grillin you on April 25, 2018, 09:59:39 PM
nice little win here for the phils
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: Geowhizzer on April 25, 2018, 10:05:48 PM
nice little win here for the phils

Either you're clairvoyant, or my feed is seriously behind.
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: MDS on April 26, 2018, 09:17:06 AM
shame 2 of the 3 starters the phillies are giving the dbacks arent any good, but at least they got one
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: Geowhizzer on April 29, 2018, 07:51:51 PM
They suck again.
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: ice grillin you on April 29, 2018, 11:06:40 PM
yup

but they are winning 80 games
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: MDS on April 30, 2018, 09:06:41 AM
yea they had 6 games against good teams and used 5th starters in 4 of them...lost them all. won when they used real pitchers. i sense a trend.

Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: Geowhizzer on April 30, 2018, 10:01:08 AM
They also fielded a lineup yesterday with three hitters below the Mendoza line, and it could have been four if Crawford didn't land on the DL.  Hittin' like it's 1968 isn't necessarily a winning formula.

EDIT:  Congrats on ALTHERR for reaching Mendoza yesterday.  Down to two tomorrow!
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: ice grillin you on April 30, 2018, 10:41:41 AM
their roster is simply awful...itís actually amazing what they have done even against a terrible schedule
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: MDS on April 30, 2018, 11:01:23 AM
i know youre watching hockey and not april baseball but the phillies arent close to awful

at least half the league isnt trying
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: ice grillin you on April 30, 2018, 12:00:22 PM
must be the half that have played the phillies
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: MDS on April 30, 2018, 12:17:48 PM
wonder if the nats will be in that pack when the phillies steal bryce from them
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: ice grillin you on May 04, 2018, 02:56:18 PM
man would I love to see pivetta own tonight but itís probably going to be one of his 6 ER games

itís also the only chance to win a game this series
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: ice grillin you on May 04, 2018, 07:28:35 PM
well this was the most predictable thing ever
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: MDS on May 04, 2018, 07:47:13 PM
couldve played around with off days to at least get nola in this game

they cant win right now so why not test your actual foundation pieces
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: ice grillin you on May 04, 2018, 07:51:17 PM
Bryce Harper is farging  amazing
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: ice grillin you on May 04, 2018, 07:53:15 PM
couldve played around with off days to at least get nola in this game

they cant win right now so why not test your actual foundation pieces

you answered your own question because they canít win go normal...when you are actually playing for something is when you tinker and move shtein around
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: ice grillin you on May 04, 2018, 07:55:46 PM
pivetta actually did better than I thought he would

no one is more hit or miss than him
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: MDS on May 04, 2018, 07:56:14 PM
its way too early to tinker if youre trying to win....but to me its just silly to waste nola against an AAA team in florida. then again the phillies lost 2/3 to them and arrieta was destroyed.

anyway harper just hit the longest hr in baseball since 2015 but he sucks
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: ice grillin you on May 04, 2018, 07:56:49 PM
lolol no wait that will go be him 6 er right?
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: ice grillin you on May 04, 2018, 07:58:18 PM
its way too early to tinker if youre trying to win....but to me its just silly to waste nola against an AAA team in florida. then again the phillies lost 2/3 to them and arrieta was destroyed.

anyway harper just hit the longest hr in baseball since 2015 but he sucks

i donít disagree with that but if you suck ass thereís literally no reason to tinker

has anyone even good teams tinkered on may 4?
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: ice grillin you on May 04, 2018, 08:03:59 PM
also if you are gonna tinker get nick farging Williams in the lineup as a regular
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: MDS on May 04, 2018, 08:04:49 PM
outside of maybe holding someone back to set up a fun pitching matchup....no. i think la/wsh did that this year to get scherzer/kershaw but i may be wrong.

anyway if harper stays: him, turner, albies, freeman and acuna are all better than anyone the phillies could even think to have. go eagles.
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: ice grillin you on May 04, 2018, 08:06:06 PM
lol I was just about to ask you how you felt about the braves lapping the phils
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: MDS on May 04, 2018, 08:10:40 PM
if they cant get anything out this FA class its going to be a really, really long time before theyre competitive

the braves dont have enough money to keep all these guys together but none of them can hit free agency until like 2025
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: ice grillin you on May 04, 2018, 08:17:15 PM
we can argue all day about the Santana signing and how Rhys could there but why is nick Williams not getting at bats over altherr
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: MDS on May 04, 2018, 08:30:00 PM
because williams sucks

altherr i think is a ML player in some capacity...likely a 4th OF or platoon option. williams is a AAAA player.
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: ice grillin you on May 04, 2018, 08:37:30 PM
altherr is garbage with no upside...nick might suck but needs at minimum a full season of PA....theres literally no reason he should not be playing....just trade him if he sucks
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: MDS on May 04, 2018, 08:40:19 PM
that was the plan...then they went out and signed santana to try to let everyone in baseball know they were serious. or something. i dont know.

neither williams or altherr will be an everyday player for them in 2019 so who cares really
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: ice grillin you on May 04, 2018, 08:42:09 PM
i thought 2020 might be the contending year and now 2020 might be a reboot year
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: MDS on May 04, 2018, 08:57:22 PM
if they dont sign 2 hitters and a pitcher this winter the reboot year is 2019
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: ice grillin you on May 04, 2018, 09:02:33 PM
i think the young guys need another season of PA and IP before a reboot but yeah i could easily see it next year
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: MDS on May 04, 2018, 09:04:48 PM
the only "young guy" is kingery and maybe alfaro

hernandez and herrera are well established. hoskins' timing is off now but hes pretty damn good.

even if jp magically turns out to be decent or williams does, its still not going to be enough to match atlanta without machado
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: ice grillin you on May 04, 2018, 09:10:18 PM
how is alfaro young but not jp

you know how long it takes to be good in the majors for most players

jp
nick dub
alfaro
kingery
rhys
pivetta
vince
lively
quinntastic

run all these motherfargers out the on the regular for the next two years and see what happens....of course i know this is not possible with the OF cause of santana


Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: MDS on May 04, 2018, 09:32:57 PM
alfaro is a catcher and those are impossible to find...they require more patience. plus he has 2 legit tools (power, arm). jp has ZERO tools and is playing a position where you can find talent.

im pretty much just writing him off as a lost cause. kingery is the guy you run out for 600 PAs no matter how good/bad.
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: ice grillin you on May 04, 2018, 09:53:13 PM
thats just preposterous....i think they all stink but saying they should run out alfaro and kingery but not jp is one of the dumbest things ive ever heard
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: MDS on May 04, 2018, 10:02:05 PM
no i was talking about guys i actually think they can possibly rely on

obviously this year they should have kingery 3b - jp ss - alfaro c - everyday. franco can go play in japan.

but i dont really get any sense jp is good and would not exhibit a massive amount of patience with him.
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: ice grillin you on May 05, 2018, 03:29:54 PM
what the eff has happened to Tom eschelman
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: MDS on May 05, 2018, 03:50:15 PM
soft tossing junk baller

only a matter of time before you get got
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: ice grillin you on May 06, 2018, 03:51:44 PM
how bout them fightins

probably should never play nick dub again
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: ice grillin you on May 06, 2018, 04:31:03 PM
this is not good
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: ice grillin you on May 06, 2018, 04:40:21 PM
why are they pitching to Adams
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: ice grillin you on May 06, 2018, 04:41:26 PM
got out of it but that was really dumb
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: ice grillin you on May 06, 2018, 05:00:05 PM
hector is cooked
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: ice grillin you on May 06, 2018, 05:08:46 PM
he hasnít thrown a single strike this inning
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: QB Eagles on May 06, 2018, 05:13:04 PM
Games like this are why we call them the bums.
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: Geowhizzer on May 06, 2018, 05:15:04 PM
Seems like Philly sports has lost the Super Bowl mojo.  Back to reality...
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: MDS on May 06, 2018, 08:40:07 PM
the bill has come for the super bowl and its a hefty one

on the bright side only a few more months to go before seranthony is closing
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: QB Eagles on May 07, 2018, 01:09:00 AM
the bill has come for the super bowl and its a hefty one

If the bill is the Phillies being what we thought they were, and the Flyers and Sixers both getting one round deeper into the playoffs than we had any right to expect, that is one light bill.
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: Rome on May 07, 2018, 09:02:27 AM
If none of the Philly teams ever win again, the price paid for that win is more than acceptable to me. 
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: ice grillin you on May 07, 2018, 10:11:58 AM
thats the difference btwn an eagle fan and a philly fan
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: Rome on May 07, 2018, 10:29:23 AM
sick bern. 
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: ice grillin you on May 07, 2018, 11:30:04 AM
phillies have nine players on a pace for 100+ strikeouts
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: MDS on May 07, 2018, 01:05:39 PM
the bill has come for the super bowl and its a hefty one

If the bill is the Phillies being what we thought they were, and the Flyers and Sixers both getting one round deeper into the playoffs than we had any right to expect, that is one light bill.

obviously you missed the braves/celtics/penguins portion of the bill...cause they are better than yo squads

If none of the Philly teams ever win again, the price paid for that win is more than acceptable to me. 

then be like j and quit

Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: MDS on May 07, 2018, 04:25:22 PM
on the bright side only a few more months to go before seranthony is closing

make that days or weeks

got the call today
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: Geowhizzer on May 07, 2018, 08:58:35 PM
(http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c388/geowhizzer/gashousegorillas.gif)
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on May 07, 2018, 09:56:47 PM
the bill has come for the super bowl and its a hefty one

If the bill is the Phillies being what we thought they were, and the Flyers and Sixers both getting one round deeper into the playoffs than we had any right to expect, that is one light bill.

obviously you missed the braves/celtics/penguins portion of the bill...cause they are better than yo squads

If none of the Philly teams ever win again, the price paid for that win is more than acceptable to me. 

then be like j and quit

Wut

Btw gonna need to get that mlb hookup. Iíve moved into my new place
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: MDS on May 07, 2018, 11:11:06 PM
well look who came crawling back
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on May 07, 2018, 11:14:44 PM
Ainít never left son
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: Don Ho on May 08, 2018, 05:47:40 AM
Herrera picked up his 500th hit of his career in his 476th career game Sunday in Washington.  Per Elias last Phillies player to reach 500 hits in fewer games was Utley who reached 500 in 474 career contests.
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: Don Ho on May 08, 2018, 05:27:43 PM
Atta boy Geo! 
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: Munson on May 08, 2018, 08:06:20 PM
Speaking of Odubel, I'm pretty sure he's been on base in every game he's played this year.
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: Don Ho on May 08, 2018, 08:30:11 PM
37 straight games now.
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: Geowhizzer on May 08, 2018, 10:04:59 PM
Star of tonight was Aaron Nola.

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Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: MDS on May 09, 2018, 09:15:45 AM
i was told by some pretty smart baseball dudes a few years ago that he was a 5
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: Rome on May 09, 2018, 11:52:35 AM
He has a legit third pitch now.  Itís made all the difference and has was pretty good before that. 
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: MDS on May 09, 2018, 12:54:48 PM
you dont understand. very smart baseball dudes looked at some articles about him around the time he was drafted and decided he was a 5. so thats it.

its over. hes a 5. maybe a long man.
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: ice grillin you on May 09, 2018, 02:24:21 PM
he better end up being more than a 5 because every number 1 since him is a pos
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: MDS on May 09, 2018, 03:20:36 PM
he better end up being more than a 5 because every number since him is a pos

his walk rate isnt amazing but

http://www.milb.com/player/index.jsp?player_id=660853#/gamelogs/R/pitching/2018/MINORS

does this make up for badly missing on randolph and moniak and likely missing on hasely? nope. but its something.
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: Geowhizzer on May 09, 2018, 09:40:43 PM
Deja vu!

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Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: Don Ho on May 09, 2018, 09:53:16 PM
Santana may actually flirt with .200
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: Geowhizzer on May 09, 2018, 10:00:25 PM
The long haired hippie freak lefty sucks.
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: MDS on May 10, 2018, 09:55:25 AM
getting syndergaard and degrom this weekend

nola v degrom on moms day
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: ice grillin you on May 10, 2018, 10:11:27 AM
ill be there in bomb seats
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: MDS on May 10, 2018, 10:13:48 AM
im planning to go either friday or saturday

arrieta - matz on friday they can win.
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: ice grillin you on May 10, 2018, 03:26:18 PM
odubel is out of his mind
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: Rome on May 10, 2018, 03:35:16 PM
Santana now has more RBIís than Hoskins. 

Wut.
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: ice grillin you on May 10, 2018, 03:44:28 PM
he has 13 this SERIES
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: MDS on May 10, 2018, 04:02:43 PM
and now theyll get swept by the mets

current plan is to go fri AND sat. im 2-0 this year. put your money in now.
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: ice grillin you on May 10, 2018, 09:41:05 PM
the last day the Phillies were in first place in each of the past six seasons:

4/9/17
4/3/16
4/5/15
3/31/14
2013 - never
4/6/12
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: QB Eagles on May 10, 2018, 09:59:13 PM
Damn, I would have guessed later. Feels like they had a couple solid Aprils in there. Just not as good as the Nats, I guess.

It's usually about now that the real Phils take off the mask.
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: Geowhizzer on May 11, 2018, 09:45:22 PM
farging Neris.
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: Don Ho on May 11, 2018, 09:47:21 PM
I really hate him
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: Don Ho on May 11, 2018, 09:48:02 PM
Boo that piece of horse shtein out of here
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: Don Ho on May 11, 2018, 09:57:06 PM
Eat me.
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: MDS on May 11, 2018, 10:34:54 PM
seranthony
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: ice grillin you on May 12, 2018, 09:23:22 AM
does this make up for badly missing on randolph and moniak and likely missing on hasely? nope. but its something.

in a combined 260 PA moniak and hasely have a total of 6 walks
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: MDS on May 12, 2018, 11:05:24 AM
they really dont even need them, what they need them for is to be good enough to trade. yeah good look dangling mickey moniak out there.
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: MDS on May 14, 2018, 11:16:32 AM
Ainít never left son

someone come get your man
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on May 15, 2018, 09:17:12 PM
How much is the MLBtv thing again?
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: Don Ho on May 15, 2018, 10:37:34 PM
$115.99 for entire season (not pro-rated yet)

$24.99 per month
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: ice grillin you on May 16, 2018, 07:54:29 AM
i think you can get just the phillies games for a lot less tho cant you...like 79.99 or something
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: MDS on May 16, 2018, 09:36:28 AM
or you can throw me 55 but then again you dont like sports anymore
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: ice grillin you on May 16, 2018, 03:45:58 PM
ive been to two phillie games in the last four days and the combined number of rows ive sat behind their dugout has been 16.....both wins.....fun times

i got a stubhub ticket for today 10 minutes before game time nine rows behind the phils dugout for 32 including fees.....ive never seen that at a pro sporting event
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: MDS on May 16, 2018, 04:38:29 PM
ive been to 3 games so far...paid $25 total for them...sat about 8 rows up the first 2 games and in that section behind the diamond club in the other game (neris blowner against the mets)

dont. out. jew. a. jew.

also are the phillies good?
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: QB Eagles on May 16, 2018, 07:20:56 PM
also are the phillies good?

Record says yes, eye test says maybe the rest of MLB is pretty bad.
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: Rome on May 16, 2018, 07:23:36 PM
I thought Nola would be good and Arrieta would eventually be a 15 game winner, but the rest?

No sir. 

I still think they end up under .500 but you never know. 
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: ice grillin you on May 16, 2018, 09:15:32 PM
also are the phillies good?

not yet....this streak ends july first

at cards (22-17)
vs. braves (25-16)
vs. jays (22-21)
at los dodgers (16-25)
at giants (22-22)
at cubbies (22-17)
vs. brewers (26-18)
vs. rockies (23-20)
at brewers (26-18)
vs. cards (22-17)
at nats (24-18)
vs. yanks (28-12)
vs. nats (24-18)

lets see what they are then....so far they have beasted on garbage...nats and braves about the only two good teams they have played have owned them
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: Diomedes on May 16, 2018, 09:55:44 PM
also are the phillies good?

Record says yes, eye test says maybe the rest of MLB is pretty bad.

I can report firsthand that the Orioles are pretty bad.
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: MDS on May 16, 2018, 10:19:13 PM
also are the phillies good?

not yet....this streak ends july first

at cards (22-17)
vs. braves (25-16)
vs. jays (22-21)
at los dodgers (16-25)
at giants (22-22)
at cubbies (22-17)
vs. brewers (26-18)
vs. rockies (23-20)
at brewers (26-18)
vs. cards (22-17)
at nats (24-18)
vs. yanks (28-12)
vs. nats (24-18)

lets see what they are then....so far they have beasted on garbage...nats and braves about the only two good teams they have played have owned them

how many wins in this stretch do they need for you to be impressed

im not arguing this mentality but there is something to be said for feasting on bad teams. phils might not be good but they are not bad. this is progress.
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: ice grillin you on May 16, 2018, 11:40:23 PM
I mean they have zero chance to win the division but to be a serious wild card contender they need to go about 2-3 games below .500 in that stretch
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: MDS on May 17, 2018, 09:26:55 AM
when they trade for realmuto and hamels will they then have a shot at the division
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: ice grillin you on May 18, 2018, 08:36:27 PM
im not on jay levels of ridiculousness where i wouldnt want harper on the phillies** but god damn manny machado is one of my favorite baseball players ever and id take him a million times over bryce

**- and i hate bryce harpers guts
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: ice grillin you on May 18, 2018, 09:08:21 PM
radar says that the last of the rain should be thru st louis in the next few minutes
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: MDS on May 18, 2018, 09:12:28 PM
945

nothing better than a late night friday jawn
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: ice grillin you on May 18, 2018, 09:20:14 PM
yeah the later the better...altho tomorrow is nice too....215 go out for some day drinking games are great as well
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: MDS on May 18, 2018, 09:36:03 PM
there are like 100 festivals in philly tomorrow...it be perfect if it wasnt going to pour
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: ice grillin you on May 18, 2018, 10:07:36 PM
that could have been worse

also the obligatory Tmac is wheels level awful and he cant leave soon enough....itís so painful
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: MDS on May 18, 2018, 10:16:34 PM
are you using my mlbtv or did you do your own thing
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: ice grillin you on May 18, 2018, 10:30:56 PM
mlbtv
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: ice grillin you on May 18, 2018, 10:52:43 PM
this  one ended quickly
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: MDS on May 18, 2018, 11:15:24 PM
mlbtv

mine or yours

cause i have both announcer option so you can avoid tmac
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: Geowhizzer on May 19, 2018, 07:10:46 AM
Glad I went to bed and didn't stay up for that clusterfarg.
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: Don Ho on May 20, 2018, 08:00:05 PM
This Jordon Hicks from the Cards is frieghtening.  21 year old throwing 100+ consistently. 
Not a big kid but damn he has a howitzer for an arm.


From Houston.  J, Todd either one of you remember him in high school?



Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: MDS on May 20, 2018, 08:50:24 PM
seeing as i was 7 hours south of that shteinhole city, no
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: Don Ho on May 21, 2018, 04:01:47 AM
holy shtein, I didn't realize you were that far from Houston.  I always thought you were in the burbs.
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: AO1 on May 21, 2018, 08:10:20 AM
he was in border wall territory
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on May 21, 2018, 08:33:06 AM
This Jordon Hicks from the Cards is frieghtening.  21 year old throwing 100+ consistently. 
Not a big kid but damn he has a howitzer for an arm.


From Houston.  J, Todd either one of you remember him in high school?

I sure don't. But I don't really keep up with the local HS scene here.
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on May 21, 2018, 08:34:11 AM
or you can throw me 55 but then again you dont like sports anymore

I will this week. Prob tonight when I get home.

Things have finally calmed down a bit to where I can actually get home and sit down and watch.
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: MDS on May 21, 2018, 11:33:53 AM
on the edge of my seat
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: Rome on May 21, 2018, 12:08:22 PM
Why would the Phillies give up the farm (literally) to get Machado now?   I keep reading that drivel and I donít see the need.  If they donít get him in free agency theyíll need the talent they have in the system to offset his ďloss.Ē  If they do get him in free agency, theyíll need the low cost talent theyíll have remaining to offset the kingís ransom theyíll pay him, not to mention the other guys theyíll presumably get to join him.

Just roll the farging dice and bet on your ex-Oriole personnel guys to reel him in. 
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: MDS on May 21, 2018, 12:19:47 PM
even if you trade for him it doesnt mean he stays...and even if you add him you still arent winning a world series. its just a preposterous thing.

IF he signed long term amid the trade, then id do it. but hes going to test the open market, so its moot. with the doyer playing better, perhaps they pull off the rental for him. thats the perfect place for him to go, if he does go, since they have no place for him in 19 and cant even really afford him.
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: Rome on May 21, 2018, 01:09:32 PM
Obviously there would have to be an agreement in place before they made a deal.   I could see the Phillies being delusional enough to believe they have a shot this year, though. 
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: MDS on May 21, 2018, 02:37:37 PM
amaro and monty arent running things anymore, theres no delusion

just hardcore numbers and probability. they know, even with machado, their odds are zilch to win a title. not to mention any big trade they make will be for a player with many years left on his deal. they arent giving up assets for a rental. your likely trade is for hamels, kelvin herrera, something small like that.
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: Rome on May 21, 2018, 02:53:56 PM
The one guy I would actually love to see the Phillies trade for is Harper.  Not because I want him but because it would destroy the Nationals and probably kill Havas to have him then lose him.
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: MDS on May 21, 2018, 04:14:34 PM
it would be really cool if they traded for mike trout, too

maybe make a trade for 1998 barry bonds?
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: Rome on May 21, 2018, 05:17:51 PM
Iíd rather have 1991 Bonds.  Or 1974 Joe Morgan. 
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: ice grillin you on May 21, 2018, 06:18:21 PM
you are confusing  me and jay
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: ice grillin you on May 21, 2018, 07:41:10 PM
nicks thrown a few pitches
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: ice grillin you on May 21, 2018, 08:06:17 PM
Rhys Hoskins is AWFUL
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: Rome on May 21, 2018, 09:00:04 PM
you are confusing  me and jay

Lol
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: MDS on May 21, 2018, 09:13:47 PM
Rhys Hoskins is AWFUL

well may rhys hoskins certainly is but april rhys hoskins is very good

March10   2   5   2   0   1   3   1   1   1   1   0   .500   .583   1.00 1.583
April   79   14   22   6   0   3   16   23   1   28   2   2   .278   .442   .468   .910
May   59   9   10   4   0   2   8   8   1   24   0   0   .169   .275   .339   .614
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: ice grillin you on May 21, 2018, 09:40:16 PM
so refreshing to have the phils be an actual real team
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: MDS on May 21, 2018, 09:41:39 PM
alfaro doesnt have an 80 arm he has an 1000 arm

good lord
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: ice grillin you on May 21, 2018, 09:44:24 PM
Nicky p in the place to be

went to New Mexico Jay cee
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: Don Ho on May 22, 2018, 02:54:40 AM
alfaro doesnt have an 80 arm he has an 1000 arm

good lord

That was a fricken amazing throw. 

Damn the Braves are on the verge of being a contender again.
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: Don Ho on May 22, 2018, 09:05:51 PM
Rhys Hoskins is AWFUL

He sure is.
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: ice grillin you on May 23, 2018, 03:53:29 PM
this is pretty neat....i wouldnt mind going if it wasnt a tuesday

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DdKW5tBX0AEBDH7.jpg)
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: smeags on May 23, 2018, 04:16:54 PM
so I see "nails" is still being "nails"
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: MDS on May 23, 2018, 11:21:24 PM
3-1 on the year...arrieta was snapping

ya boy rhys hit some balls hard and they found gloves. hoping hell be ok.

i wound up in the first row above the diamond level next to some scouts and jesse biddle's family. one guy with them was still rockin the red phils shirt. chesnut hill die hard.
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: ice grillin you on May 25, 2018, 07:35:11 PM
Hoskins is worthless right now...he needs to sit...an atrocious fielder can play if heís hittin but heís terrible at both
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: Don Ho on May 25, 2018, 08:08:44 PM
Jay Wright with the World Surf League t-shirt going at CBP.  Sitting in the dog friendly section with his retriever.  Knew this guy was the man!
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: MDS on May 25, 2018, 08:25:58 PM
Hoskins is worthless right now...he needs to sit...an atrocious fielder can play if heís hittin but heís terrible at both

see that sweet walk bro
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: ice grillin you on May 25, 2018, 10:06:12 PM
go to hell and die rhys
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: MDS on May 25, 2018, 10:07:57 PM
probably a ball but too close to take

regardless he missed a hittable pitch 1-1
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: ice grillin you on May 25, 2018, 11:00:12 PM
send him away...anywhere....i dont care
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: MDS on May 26, 2018, 12:54:27 AM
if his name was randall hoskins and phillies twitter called him a smoke would you feel this way
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: ice grillin you on May 26, 2018, 06:05:32 PM
I only care that heís wet poop


this really sucks for Nola....best heís ever looked and heís looked really good
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: Don Ho on May 26, 2018, 09:43:50 PM
Was at the gym watching and the expletives were flying during that rain delay and the 7th.

Agreed, best heís look.  When he struck out the side in the 5th or 6th? He was throwing some nasty shtein.
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: MDS on May 26, 2018, 11:00:23 PM
I only care that he’s wet poop


this really sucks for Nola....best he’s ever looked and he’s looked really good

if this isnt one of your liberal soapbox things and a legit take then its one of the worst youve ever had....hoskins is having a bad month, sure, but its ridiculous to bench him for aaron altherr

as for nola i didnt have high hopes after watching him warm up. he was laboring. he started before garcia and finished after him. shows how much that matters. probably was never going to get there with his pinch count, but damn that rain delay. in the 3rd or 4th he basically had the same # of balls and strikes. i didnt even know he had a nono until after the 5th.

anyway williams homer went directly over my head. spot me on the replay. my ticket cost $4 on seatgeek. the rain, which was never much of a thing, turned the secondary market nonexistent.
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: ice grillin you on May 27, 2018, 02:46:14 PM
the braves are pounding Chris sale and the Phillies are getting no hit
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: MDS on May 27, 2018, 03:45:32 PM
should they just give up on this and tank
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: ice grillin you on May 27, 2018, 04:15:36 PM
i think they will tank by accident...they are so close to being horrible....its a fine line and they are riding the right side of it....the pitching cannot sustain this....really should have been swept this weekend...its just unfathomable the record they have with their offense....schedule has had a lot to do with it but still
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: MDS on May 27, 2018, 04:29:10 PM
they have the 6th most runs in the NL

not that im enamored with their offense but league average offense and very good pitching is a decent recipe for success. even with an expected drop off, winning 80ish game is a pretty good season for them.

then, manny.
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: MDS on May 28, 2018, 10:12:23 AM
looks like the phils will see kershaw on thursday and bumgarner on friday

both will probably be on pitch counts but still. good test.
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: Don Ho on May 29, 2018, 02:20:24 AM
Reality tour.  That was a shtein show and a half tonight.  VV pitched a great game, Sir Anthony is a farging beast and than thereís that sorry excuse of a bullpen.  This road trip will be the kick in the nuts we all knew was coming.
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: ice grillin you on May 29, 2018, 07:39:40 AM
the eighth inning was obviously a calamity but the reason they lost was the offense again...you canít go for three hits and no runs for the last 7 innings of the game

and just put Rhys to sleep...another sweet oh fer and that 9th inning at bat was so embarrassing...actually felt pity for him
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: Rome on May 29, 2018, 07:43:49 AM
Your hatred of that kid is really weird. 
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: ice grillin you on May 29, 2018, 08:29:15 AM
I actually like him...but I donít judge a player by like of them ...fact is heís been farging brutal for well over a month and if and when he ever becomes a hitter he still will not be able to play defense

Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: MDS on May 29, 2018, 09:12:37 AM
they have to have the worst defense in baseball and thats not even counting the cement foot statue in LF

kingery has actually gotten a lot better at SS, though
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: ice grillin you on May 29, 2018, 09:29:39 AM
their pen has had a rough couple of days lately but in general its really good with the potential to be great but yeah their defense is brutal and their offense largely absent....if one or both of these things doesnt improve (mostly the offense) then when the SP regresses they are going to be in big trouble

i guess its possible the pitching doesnt regress but the starters have a 3.33 era....i cant believe thats not going to go up significantly.....if it doesnt boy are they going to be loaded for the future with good young pitchers
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: Rome on May 29, 2018, 09:38:21 AM
I donít know what the stats are, but Iíve seen enough brutal bullpen implosions this year to last me a whole season, and itís not even June yet.

And the defense is indeed putrid. 

Still, theyíre 29-22 which is about 10 wins better than I thought theyíd be at this point, so beggars/choosers, etc. 
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: MDS on May 29, 2018, 09:39:09 AM
im not really sure i blame last night on the pen....the defense farged up 3 fairly routine plays (granted, morgan did one). there really havent been "bullpen" implosions. just a few NERIS implosions. the bigger issue which i think you mentioned was the offense shutting down after the cesar hr.

but i guess the team projected to win 70 something games might not make the playoffs? oh ma gad. if they can hang around the playoff race until labor day ill be pleased. right now just happy to be able to watch semi meaningful baseball again.
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: ice grillin you on May 29, 2018, 09:43:41 AM
i root hard for eflin to do well because of his back story but assuming eickhoff is fully healthy thats going to be a huge upgrade in the rotation
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: MDS on May 29, 2018, 09:55:51 AM
id agree, but theres nothing positive coming from eickhoff. nerve damage. cant feel his fingertips. yikes.

they could also give de los santos a shot, though his bb rate isnt spectacular. really the thing that makes the most sense is bringing cole home, but youre going to do it, do it now. decent chance they might not need him by july.
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: Don Ho on May 30, 2018, 01:34:23 AM
farg you Hector!
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: Don Ho on May 30, 2018, 01:37:27 AM
He makes Hoskins look like Ted Williams.  1/3 innng 3 H 1 R, and Tommy Hunter of all people bails his ass out
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: ice grillin you on May 30, 2018, 08:12:54 AM
pedro florimon with a broken foot....hopefully jp is right around the corner
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: MDS on May 30, 2018, 12:16:52 PM
he still needs more rehab...they are calling mitch walding

legit question is if, when jp is back, do they do it for walding or drew hutchinson. SP has so good theres been no real need for a mop up man. they are more likely to play a close game, where you could use an extra bat.
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: Geowhizzer on May 30, 2018, 09:22:45 PM
So no one thought to check Hoskins for a broken jaw before allowing him to pinch hit last night?
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: Don Ho on May 30, 2018, 11:51:29 PM
Doyers with a beat down through 5.  Eflin looked like horse shtein.  Dodgers starting to get healthy.  They get everyone back at 100%, watch out.
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: ice grillin you on May 31, 2018, 07:16:00 AM
So no one thought to check Hoskins for a broken jaw before allowing him to pinch hit last night?

they need to check his broken bat for holes
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: MDS on May 31, 2018, 09:31:36 AM
the dodgers doc said he was fine

CONSPIRACY
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: MDS on May 31, 2018, 03:53:07 PM
1. Machado to the Phillies for shortstop prospect Arquimedes Gamboa and pitching prospects Enyel De Los Santos and Jose Taveras.

from heymans fake tades story...if this is within the ballpark then it needs to be done. i sort of figured if the phillies wanted someone of consequence it would take kingery or sixto, but if this is close it shouldnt even require a thought.
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: ice grillin you on May 31, 2018, 03:54:07 PM
i would give 8 kingerys for manny
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: Don Ho on May 31, 2018, 04:35:16 PM
So no one thought to check Hoskins for a broken jaw before allowing him to pinch hit last night?

they need to check his broken bat for holes

LMFAO :-D :-D
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: Geowhizzer on May 31, 2018, 10:02:21 PM
Aaron Nola is pretty good.
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: AO1 on May 31, 2018, 10:16:37 PM
What a play by Kingery

Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: MDS on June 01, 2018, 05:38:09 PM
kingery is better at SS than jp

as good as that play was the altherr catch mightve been better and more important
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: ice grillin you on June 01, 2018, 08:33:28 PM
jp went yard tonight
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: MDS on June 01, 2018, 08:49:52 PM
in high A

he validily sucks
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: ice grillin you on June 01, 2018, 11:17:14 PM
speaking of

http://www.mcall.com/sports/baseball/ironpigs/mc-spt-phillies-amateur-drafts-last15-years-0603-story.html
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: MDS on June 01, 2018, 11:22:34 PM
hasely-moniak-randolph is as brutal a stretch you can have of top picks

will any of these guys even get to lehigh
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: ice grillin you on June 01, 2018, 11:42:32 PM
whats worse that trio or watching this offense
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: ice grillin you on June 01, 2018, 11:48:24 PM
why is dylan cousins in the majors again?
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: MDS on June 01, 2018, 11:56:23 PM
the lone bat on the 40 man

a legit follow up is why is cuzzo on the 40 man
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: ice grillin you on June 02, 2018, 12:24:47 AM
40 man?

he shouldnt even be in the organization....yet hes somehow playing in a semi important mlb game
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: MDS on June 02, 2018, 12:26:54 AM
the phillies are 4th in mlb in striking out and also 4th in mlb in drawing walks

Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: MDS on June 02, 2018, 12:29:18 AM
their defense flat out sucks

kind of amazing their record is this good
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: ice grillin you on June 02, 2018, 12:30:10 AM
its not gonna be for long

bad offense and bad defense is a bad combo
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: MDS on June 02, 2018, 12:36:45 AM
you have to hope ya man rhys and odubs can get going at the same time

this next week against these good teams with knapp-cuzzo-walding stretches will NOT be pretty
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: ice grillin you on June 02, 2018, 12:46:55 AM
odie will end up the year good to vg but he had to regress....he was hitting way above his means

what you gotta hope for is rhys gets better and bumps into odie where he levels out and they meet in the middle
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: MDS on June 02, 2018, 12:55:08 AM
you know what else can help? trading for machado
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: ice grillin you on June 02, 2018, 01:02:44 AM
this game was a complete embarrassment from start to finish but still not nearly as bad as having to listen to tmac....who is even worse when the game sucks
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: MDS on June 02, 2018, 06:22:33 PM
the giants guys...kruk and kipe...are among the best. the past like 5 years ive had giants pitchers in fantasy so id watch them a lot.

not sure how you can be listening to tmac if given another outlet. even j pretends not to.
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: Don Ho on June 02, 2018, 06:33:35 PM
^^total agreement^^

We got the Giants broadcast on TV here last night.  Miller and Krukow are like Scully and Rick Monday were/are for Dodgers.  No homerism at all, just a straight up, knowledgeable broadcast.  Duane Kuipers "OUUTTTAHHH HERE!" home run calls are priceless.
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: ice grillin you on June 03, 2018, 12:00:04 AM
they are just beyond repug to watch

Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: MDS on June 03, 2018, 12:10:10 AM
see what happens when they dont have rhys
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: ice grillin you on June 03, 2018, 12:11:59 AM
when he rehabs in allentown they should just leave him there
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: MDS on June 03, 2018, 12:14:03 AM
who is better: rhys or mitch walding
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: ice grillin you on June 03, 2018, 12:19:13 AM
does it matter?
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: MDS on June 03, 2018, 12:24:40 AM
rhys had a higher obp in may than altherr, but i guess whatever who cares bring back delmon young
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: Geowhizzer on June 03, 2018, 08:23:12 AM
What's Dom Brown doing nowadays?
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: MDS on June 03, 2018, 04:39:09 PM
arrieta > their lineup
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: ice grillin you on June 03, 2018, 05:04:02 PM
whats most pathetic is the trio of guys they have faced this weekend had a total of around 150 mlb innings pitched and an era of around 5.00....and dook today is making his mlb debut
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: MDS on June 03, 2018, 05:15:24 PM
they should def keep playing altherr over hoskins though
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: ice grillin you on June 03, 2018, 05:15:57 PM
ABH
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: ice grillin you on June 03, 2018, 05:16:57 PM
What's Dom Brown doing nowadays?

hes still on the phillies but hes white
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: MDS on June 03, 2018, 05:32:22 PM
mike franco has been polluting the world with his sub 300 obp for the past 4 years but the real problem is 1 bad month from hoskins

jp hitting a crisp 200 in high A so cant wait for him to get back
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: ice grillin you on June 03, 2018, 05:33:21 PM
no one worships franco...everyone knows hes puke...that ship sailed long ago
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: MDS on June 03, 2018, 05:39:23 PM
based on their available players give me your optimal lineup...injured players ok
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: ice grillin you on June 03, 2018, 05:41:16 PM
throw them all in one of those volcano fissures
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: MDS on June 03, 2018, 05:54:16 PM
meltdown
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: MDS on June 03, 2018, 06:00:03 PM
how long would they have to play for the phillies to get to 5 runs....july?
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: ice grillin you on June 03, 2018, 06:00:38 PM
dont fret mickey hit his first homer of the season
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: MDS on June 03, 2018, 06:03:21 PM
the legend of mitch walding continues. 0-6 with 6 ks.

where do they find these guys
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: Don Ho on June 03, 2018, 06:11:53 PM
What's Dom Brown doing nowadays?

hes still on the phillies but hes white

POTW :-D :-D
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: Don Ho on June 03, 2018, 06:13:41 PM
throw them all in one of those volcano fissures

I can see to that.
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: QB Eagles on June 03, 2018, 06:13:48 PM
Mitch Walding has been in the organization since 2011 and I think this is the first time I've been aware he exists.
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: Don Ho on June 03, 2018, 06:15:07 PM
the legend of mitch walding continues. 0-6 with 6 ks.

where do they find these guys

I think I sat next to a Mitch Walding in shop class in 7th grade.
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: Don Ho on June 03, 2018, 06:20:22 PM
Mitch Walding has been in the organization since 2011 and I think this is the first time I've been aware he exists.

Saw him in the lineup on Friday night and thought who in the hell is this?  Did I miss some phenom in the system?  No, didn't miss a thing.
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: Geowhizzer on June 03, 2018, 07:07:40 PM
What's Dom Brown doing nowadays?

hes still on the phillies but hes white

Dom White?  Sounds gritty...
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: ice grillin you on June 03, 2018, 07:14:59 PM
whoa arrieta is not happy....i love it
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: MDS on June 03, 2018, 07:19:22 PM
complaining about shifts is old man nonsense...they by and large work. its simple math.

i do like the other stuff he said. but to be fair its difficult to have accountaiblity when your bench is as putrid as theirs is right now. youre gonna bench santana so jesmuel valentin can play?
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: ice grillin you on June 03, 2018, 07:32:06 PM
its more to farg with the fans who think they are good...im pretty sure other than maybe arrieta every man in that locker room knows they suck

driving seam heads like you crazy is a bonus
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: ice grillin you on June 03, 2018, 07:50:56 PM
rut roh WARP!!!

Quote
Phillies do rank last in our Shift Runs Saved stat (-11 entering today)
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: MDS on June 03, 2018, 08:41:50 PM
part of that has to do with the general porous defense...but they do shift more extreme than most teams do, so its not asinine to say it needs to be brought down a notch

but on the whole shifts do work. arrieta is just a mad meathead after a really bad game.

im pretty sure other than maybe arrieta every man in that locker room knows they suck


actually they are playing with a lot more confidence this year...not that kapler is amazing but their previous 2 managers were trainwrecks so having one that at least has the players backs is welcome
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: Rome on June 04, 2018, 12:16:54 PM
Arietta demanding accountability from everyone other than himself was a thing of cognitive dissonant beauty.

I mean heís right about nerdtastic Kapler, and the offense only scoring one run in three games is atrocious, but ripping everyone in sight is weak sauce. 
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: Rome on June 04, 2018, 08:49:18 PM
The Philz selected a guy named Alec Bohm. 

So one more Bohm to add to the list, I guess?

🤓
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: AO1 on June 04, 2018, 09:03:47 PM
https://www.mlb.com/phillies/video/bohm-on-being-drafted-no-3/c-2118729983?tid=262722544
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: Rome on June 04, 2018, 09:45:48 PM
Who cares about that dork. 

Interviewer chick = infinity plow, however. 
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: ice grillin you on June 05, 2018, 07:26:15 AM
thats peter rosenbergs wife and shes not hot but put bleach blonde hair on an eggplant and 90% of white guys will pee their pants

also he might be the worst interview ive ever heard
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: Rome on June 05, 2018, 08:23:22 AM
I muted it after 30 seconds.  It was breaking my concentration, if you know what Iím saying. 

Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: MDS on June 05, 2018, 10:04:55 AM
peter rosenberg

heeb
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: Geowhizzer on June 05, 2018, 10:57:43 PM
Nice effort by Eflin tonight.
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: MDS on June 06, 2018, 11:30:25 AM
he was most definitely pitching for his spot in the rotation, too

nola day.
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: Don Ho on June 06, 2018, 11:30:34 PM
Holy farg!  Welcome to the big leagues Sir Tony and we already Morgan was a pile of shtein.
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: MDS on June 06, 2018, 11:41:17 PM
the only thing worse than that ending is the seeing the neaderthals on twitter react to it

baseball really brings out just the dumbest human beings ever
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: Rome on June 07, 2018, 05:59:28 AM
Thereís worse things.  Like reading quotes like ďhigh leverage momentĒ afterward.  Baseball really isnít all that complicated.  Funny how real baseball men understand that and donít try to reinvent it after 150 years of the game being played and managed in successful ways. 
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: MDS on June 07, 2018, 09:20:22 AM
what is a real baseball man
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: Geowhizzer on June 07, 2018, 09:31:10 AM
what is a real baseball man

(https://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/s--KKuzGaUa--/c_scale,f_auto,fl_progressive,q_80,w_800/ubcrm1an4pez9x39feuq.jpg)
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: ice grillin you on June 08, 2018, 07:26:59 PM
give me the month in which the Phillies win their next series
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: MDS on June 08, 2018, 08:53:46 PM
theyve got some easyish games in july

but i mean if theyre still hitting kingAAAry 3rd anything is possible
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: Rome on June 08, 2018, 09:03:21 PM
Nice meltdown from Vinnie tonite. 
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: ice grillin you on June 09, 2018, 01:30:37 PM
loud mouth arrieta backing his shtein up
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: Geowhizzer on June 09, 2018, 01:58:38 PM
Sixto on the DL with elbow inflammation. (https://www.nbcphiladelphia.com/news/sports/csn/phillies/Phillies_top_prospect_Sixto_Sanchez_to_DL_with_elbow_inflammation-485038321.html)
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: ice grillin you on June 09, 2018, 02:05:37 PM
rhys needs to break his face more often
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: ice grillin you on June 09, 2018, 02:20:01 PM
the phillies farging bunt A LOT for an analytical wet dream team
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: ice grillin you on June 09, 2018, 03:33:02 PM
this team is sweet
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: Rome on June 09, 2018, 05:00:27 PM
JUNE SWOOOOOOONNNNNN...
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: Don Ho on June 09, 2018, 05:21:27 PM
Adam Morgan, yes there are a lot of issues on this team but he's a pretty big one.

Fo Fo Fo!

4H 4R 4ER

Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: QB Eagles on June 09, 2018, 05:44:00 PM
It's the Phillies and it's June. That's pretty much all the analysis you need for what is going on right now.
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: Don Ho on June 09, 2018, 06:08:37 PM
Correct but it was fun scoreboard watching for a week.
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: MDS on June 10, 2018, 10:37:50 AM
pro: i paid $18 for 2 tickets and we walked down and sat right in front of the tarp on the lf foul line
con: the game
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: ice grillin you on June 10, 2018, 02:23:50 PM
hitter extroidairre Rhys Hoskins is hitting .235
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: MDS on June 10, 2018, 02:41:37 PM
you are worse about rhys than skip is about lebron
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: ice grillin you on June 10, 2018, 03:44:22 PM
Rhys got mvps and titles I donít know about?

SD is sooooooo good
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: MDS on June 10, 2018, 03:47:15 PM
he has 5 of their 7 RBIs the last 2 days.

find a new slant
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: ice grillin you on June 10, 2018, 04:01:49 PM
yay
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: MDS on June 10, 2018, 04:23:42 PM
odubel doesnt have a hit this century...altherr sucks...wlliams is mediocre...kingery is a travesty...crawford belongs in reading

but rhys hoskins totally sucks
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: Rome on June 10, 2018, 07:44:28 PM
http://www.philly.com/philly/sports/phillies/curt-schilling-gabe-kapler-red-sox-world-series-phillies-reunion-20180610.html?mobi=true

Another reason to hate that guy
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: ice grillin you on June 11, 2018, 02:12:42 PM
schilling makes me look skinny
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: Don Ho on June 12, 2018, 02:40:05 AM
Kruk looked like me on my surfboard of late - hobblin' & wooblin'
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: Geowhizzer on June 12, 2018, 07:11:10 PM
https://twitter.com/Rockies/status/1006620951579189255
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: Don Ho on June 12, 2018, 07:31:04 PM
Kind of sort of.
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/be/Coors_field_aerial_1.JPG/1200px-Coors_field_aerial_1.JPG)

Great shot.
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: Don Ho on June 12, 2018, 07:34:09 PM
If ever in Denver and Rockies are in town, highly recommend a visit to Coors Field.  Awesome location downtown and very cool ballpark.
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: AO1 on June 12, 2018, 08:57:31 PM
If ever in Denver and Rockies are in town, highly recommend a visit to Coors Field.  Awesome location downtown and very cool ballpark.

Was there in 2016, great city and ballpark. Wasnít a fan of edibles
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: MDS on June 12, 2018, 10:27:35 PM
only having 1 reliable relief pitcher shouldnt be an issue
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: Geowhizzer on June 12, 2018, 11:20:50 PM
Can they just take Luis Garcia out back and put him out of our misery?  He's awful.
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: Don Ho on June 13, 2018, 03:26:58 AM
4 f'ing hits tonight!  4! How bad is baseball when these guys are 3 games out of first?
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: ice grillin you on June 13, 2018, 07:00:28 AM
i dont understand why kapler wont use victor arano
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: MDS on June 13, 2018, 09:04:58 AM
we've reached the "why dont they use victor arano" point of the season

up next: why cant jesmuel valentin get a look?
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: Don Ho on June 13, 2018, 08:11:56 PM
The shtein show alive and well tonight.
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: Geowhizzer on June 13, 2018, 08:22:59 PM
The shtein show alive and well tonight.

OUT on that game. Now doing the "good game roulette" on mlb.tv.
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: MDS on June 14, 2018, 09:36:41 AM
pricetag on machado keeps going up....why on earth is he singing up to throw 10 years of his career away to hit between scott kingery and nick williams
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: AO1 on June 14, 2018, 10:19:09 AM
pricetag on machado keeps going up....why on earth is he singing up to throw 10 years of his career away to hit between scott kingery and nick williams

Maybe all that credibility the Phillies received when they signed Santana is finally paying off
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: MDS on June 14, 2018, 05:28:11 PM
my company took us to this game

it was hot

the actually hit...if rhys and odubs are going at the same time, look out 80 wins
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: MDS on June 15, 2018, 10:32:11 PM
go back to chicago, jake
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: Rome on June 16, 2018, 06:03:35 AM
I guess this oneís on Jake too. 
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: ice grillin you on June 16, 2018, 03:11:12 PM
need more speeches from jake
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: MDS on June 16, 2018, 10:33:15 PM
so does hoskins still suck or
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: AO1 on June 17, 2018, 05:24:45 PM
Had no idea Mcnabb pitched for the Brewers
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: MDS on June 17, 2018, 07:11:31 PM
so does hoskins still suck or

my nephew be hiding
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: Rome on June 17, 2018, 07:14:51 PM
Any chance we could send Neris to Clearwater to learn how to pitch again?
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: MDS on June 17, 2018, 07:17:39 PM
i believe he has 1 minor league option left, or so says a quick scan from google, so yes that would make a ton of sense. they need another arm for tomorrow and neris isnt pitching for ~2 days anyway
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: AO1 on June 18, 2018, 04:39:59 PM
NAAAris
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: Don Ho on June 18, 2018, 06:29:05 PM
Praise Jesus!  Good farging riddance
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: Don Ho on June 18, 2018, 06:29:55 PM
Had no idea Mcnabb pitched for the Brewers

That was pretty priceless yesterday.  Maybe he saw Hector warming up and lost it.
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: MDS on June 18, 2018, 07:31:28 PM
rhys and odubs hot = the phillies are good
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: Geowhizzer on June 18, 2018, 09:57:26 PM
Good to see Arano pick right up where Neris left off...  :yay
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: Geowhizzer on June 18, 2018, 10:08:08 PM
Send Morgan back to Lehigh.  From a cannon.
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: AO1 on June 18, 2018, 10:09:47 PM
Nice hanger Morgan.
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: MDS on June 18, 2018, 10:12:48 PM
andrew knapp is bad at catching

minor issue being a catcher
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: MDS on June 18, 2018, 10:52:41 PM
THE PHILLIES!
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: Rome on June 19, 2018, 08:52:32 AM
TMAC suggested Kapler doesnít like closers last night. 

Krukker replies, really, would he like someone like Aroldis Chapman?

Perfect. 
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: MDS on June 19, 2018, 12:14:25 PM
1. since the string of tough games began, your phillies are 14-16 (not...awful?)
2. phils will miss scherzer this weekend and next weekend
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: Rome on June 19, 2018, 01:12:42 PM
Theyíre a 75-80 win team talent-wise.  Their ďmanagerĒ has already cost them at least 5 games, so Iíd say theyíve actually overachieved.   
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: ice grillin you on June 19, 2018, 07:24:34 PM
mr. analytics calls for his millionth bunt of the year

in the first inning nonetheless
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: Don Ho on June 19, 2018, 09:43:43 PM
TMAC suggested Kapler doesnít like closers last night. 

Krukker replies, really, would he like someone like Aroldis Chapman?

Perfect.

 :-D Heard that too and how farging true.

Tommy Hunter on a role with another implosion.
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: MDS on June 19, 2018, 10:18:31 PM
mr. analytics calls for his millionth bunt of the year

in the first inning nonetheless

you forgot #maga
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: ice grillin you on June 20, 2018, 07:01:57 AM
sure could have used that extra run in the first...but instead Kapler has odubel who was 10 for his last 23 with four homers bunt with two on and no out
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: Rome on June 20, 2018, 07:23:00 AM
But advanced metrics!
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: MDS on June 20, 2018, 09:13:52 AM
sure could have used that extra run in the first...but instead Kapler has odubel who was 10 for his last 23 with four homers bunt with two on and no out

i didnt see that portion of the game, but kapler often has his pitchers swing in normal bunting situations. you sure this wasnt braindead odubel just being braindead odubel
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: ice grillin you on June 20, 2018, 09:51:44 AM
i mean if that happened then everyone missed it....kapler was even one of the guys at the steps to give him a pat when he come back...although i suppose he could have disagreed with the move and still done that...but as big of an analytics guy he is that would seem weird

also odubel walked right up and did it on the first pitch....yes he could have had the plan in his own mind on the on deck circle but it sure looked like he was sent up to do it

someone said kapler was bunting for a hit to try and take advantage of carpenters fielding deficiencies...which i dont discount but it would be just as stupid as a sacrifice....and im not even a never bunt guy like most seam heads are
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: MDS on June 20, 2018, 02:07:24 PM
is everyone ready to admit scott kingery sucks or
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: ice grillin you on June 20, 2018, 02:20:27 PM
is everyone ready to admit scott kingery sucks or

i was laughing my ass off watching wacha basically intentionally walk santana even though its only the third inning knowing that no matter what the situation no one behind santana in the phillies order was going to hurt wacha

kingery - K
nicky dub - weak ground out
inning over
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: MDS on June 20, 2018, 02:24:22 PM
theres egg on their faces for sure for that contract, but everyone in the media and fanbase was screaming for him to make the team. they deserve some of the blame too.

im just trying to think of a player that has been this dreadful for 3+ months that has gone on to have a really good career. its not like hes been hot here or there. hes been consistently just awful at baseball, and playing out of position to boot
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: ice grillin you on June 20, 2018, 02:31:26 PM
ive supported klentak in almost everything hes done....not so much in any one individual move or another but in his overarching philosophy of the rebuild....

but now im wondering if he will be the face of this era when it implodes or will kapler be because he stands out more being the everyday manager and how well known his eccentricity is
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: MDS on June 20, 2018, 02:45:54 PM
the fans by and large have zero idea who klentak is...hes a quiet nerd that says nothing

kapler is reviled by the fanbase and there could easily be a revolt against him. hes first to go.
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: QB Eagles on June 20, 2018, 03:06:34 PM
People will know who Klentak is after zero big names sign this offseason.
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: ice grillin you on June 20, 2018, 03:09:56 PM
the fans by and large have zero idea who klentak is...hes a quiet nerd that says nothing

kapler is reviled by the fanbase and there could easily be a revolt against him. hes first to go.

i dont think klentak can fire him after one season....thats HIS guy...

short of some kind of implosion next season like a 30 win first half i think kapler gets minimum another full season

you gotta figure klentak knows this winter is in theory going to be a huge one for the phils (plus another season of young players getting better) so they should be significantly better next season no matter how bad kapler is or isnt...just having a much better roster next year makes kapler a better manager and makes the hire look better for klentak
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: ice grillin you on June 20, 2018, 03:11:30 PM
also what in the farg happened to arron altherr
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: MDS on June 20, 2018, 03:16:14 PM
also what in the farg happened to arron altherr

hes a 4th OF performing like a 4th OF

their offense is so bad and they have zero run producers, their margin of error is going to be so thin in every game. thats why people get bent out of shape with the bullpen, but when youre in a lot of 1-2 runs games and you have 1 good reliever, youre going to lose some of those games.

maybe in the 3rd inning with the bases loaded you dont have dopes kingery and williams make outs
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: ice grillin you on June 20, 2018, 04:07:35 PM
hes definitely better than this

they need to send walding down...not cause i care about the 25th guy on the roster but because i legit feel bad for him....all you are doing at this point is embarrassing him
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: MDS on June 20, 2018, 04:19:56 PM
im actually curious to see how long this will go on for

legit have zero idea how they won the game, but a real nice win and a real nice series win.
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: Don Ho on June 20, 2018, 05:49:12 PM
How has this team won three series in a row?  Seems like they've been outscored by 50 runs.

Seeing Morgan trot out there in the ninth was frightening.  Nats, Evil Empire, Nats - nice reality check to the gonads.
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: Rome on June 20, 2018, 06:33:35 PM
Almost every move Klentak has made has backfired.  So yeah, thatís definitely who I want making $400,000,000 worth of personnel decisions in November.   

And Kapler should have never been hired in the first place.   He has no business managing a big league club. 
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: MDS on June 21, 2018, 12:42:41 AM
Almost every move Klentak has made has backfired.  So yeah, thatís definitely who I want making $400,000,000 worth of personnel decisions in November.   

And Kapler should have never been hired in the first place.   He has no business managing a big league club.

if the season ended today theyd be in the playoffs but yea every move has been a disaster and kapler is horrible

do you actually watch baseball
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: ice grillin you on June 21, 2018, 07:05:21 AM
How has this team won three series in a row?  Seems like they've been outscored by 50 runs.

bullpen implosions make everything seem way worse than they are....its probably the most painful thing in all of sports to watch...other than a mitch walding AB
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: ice grillin you on June 21, 2018, 01:19:12 PM
2. phils will miss scherzer this weekend and next weekend

wont he pitch july 1?
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: MDS on June 21, 2018, 05:28:51 PM
they have an off day june 27 so theoretically they could skip someone and use max then. if your phils play well enough they just might.

and wont that be sad. fiddling with the roatation to put scherz against kingery & the boys
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: Don Ho on June 21, 2018, 09:19:12 PM
How has this team won three series in a row?  Seems like they've been outscored by 50 runs.

bullpen implosions make everything seem way worse than they are....its probably the most painful thing in all of sports to watch...other than a mitch walding AB

That actually made me laugh out loud!  Mitch Walding  :-D :-D

And correct, bullpen implosions are hard to stomach.
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: ice grillin you on June 22, 2018, 08:45:58 AM
romey youll love this headline in the athletic this morning

Position players pitching: Gabe Kapler is on a mission to make it a more accepted tactic
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: ice grillin you on June 22, 2018, 09:02:22 PM
why would you ever shift on Bryce Harper
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: MDS on June 22, 2018, 09:03:34 PM
because math
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: ice grillin you on June 22, 2018, 09:05:39 PM
math doesnít work against hall of famers

that dumb ass move might have just changed the game
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: ice grillin you on June 22, 2018, 09:10:04 PM
wow so lucky

he just missed that
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: MDS on June 22, 2018, 09:11:42 PM
math doesnít work against hall of famers


hall of famers are hitting .215 in june?
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: Rome on June 22, 2018, 10:22:22 PM
12-2 tonite.  Shut it. 
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: MDS on June 22, 2018, 10:35:18 PM
it gets real easy for them after this 10 game stretch

1-0 so far

if they came out of this 5-5 or better....you gotta get going on a trade or 2
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: ice grillin you on June 24, 2018, 09:09:35 PM
Nicky pee might be something

and they got him for papledouche who they would have given away for free
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: MDS on June 24, 2018, 09:25:20 PM
Nicky pee might be something


on queue
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: ice grillin you on June 24, 2018, 11:11:12 PM
wasnít 13k but a solid start

he has stuff
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: ice grillin you on June 24, 2018, 11:11:56 PM
and here comes the pen

although horrid play by Rhys
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: ice grillin you on June 24, 2018, 11:42:33 PM
This is as painful as it gets
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: ice grillin you on June 24, 2018, 11:43:36 PM
well that was needed
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: ice grillin you on June 24, 2018, 11:53:29 PM
Mitch walding at bat alert
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: ice grillin you on June 24, 2018, 11:55:14 PM
0-7 with seven k and he somehow does the only thing worse than striking out
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: QB Eagles on June 25, 2018, 12:05:25 AM
Well he finally put a ball into play at least.
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: ice grillin you on June 25, 2018, 12:07:02 AM
wish he hadnít
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: ice grillin you on June 25, 2018, 12:11:28 AM
disgusting
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: MDS on June 25, 2018, 09:33:00 AM
every time you think 'hey maybe...' they remind you that they arent ready yet
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: Rome on June 25, 2018, 10:59:48 AM
They scored six runs and the starter got five good innings in before inexplicably being hooked by the stat-addicted manager.  And of course he decides to load the bases and pitch to a legit all-star rather than a 19 year old kid because analytics.  Again.  And the bullpen imploded.   Again. 

Fix those two issues, get a real 3rd baseman that can scare the shtein out of opposing pitchers and this is a 90 win playoff team. 
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: ice grillin you on June 25, 2018, 07:19:19 PM
that was a strike
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: ice grillin you on June 25, 2018, 07:42:38 PM
this seems like men vs. boys
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: Rome on June 25, 2018, 08:43:56 PM
Seems like a $175M team vs a collection of misfits, castoffs and young kids. 
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: ice grillin you on June 25, 2018, 08:57:44 PM
or men vs. boys
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: MDS on June 25, 2018, 09:22:32 PM
im pretty sure rome just doesn not watch baseball anymore and is just dusting off 15 year old hot takes
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: ice grillin you on June 25, 2018, 09:46:51 PM
Adam Morgan is not good and Iím not sure Iíve ever seen a bigger stadium takeover than tonight
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: MDS on June 25, 2018, 10:16:34 PM
im going tomorrow for some reason...its going to be disgusting

the biggest stadium takeover ive ever seen was phils/nats 10 nl east clincher. literally every person there was rooting for the phils. and this year the nashville and nawlins roadies are going to be worse.
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: Don Ho on June 26, 2018, 06:39:34 AM
Adam Morgan is not good and Iím not sure Iíve ever seen a bigger stadium takeover than tonight

Adam Morgan must go and agree, I can't recall CBP ever being taken over like it was last night.  That was mind boggling.
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: MDS on June 26, 2018, 09:09:04 AM
the pearl clutching over the yankee fan thing is more annoying than the yankee fan thing itself

if you care so much go..otherwise whatever
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: ice grillin you on June 26, 2018, 09:48:15 AM
it was an utter embarrassment....made the mets takeovers look weak

I legit felt bad for the Phillies players
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: AO1 on June 26, 2018, 10:02:49 AM
it was an utter embarrassment....made the mets takeovers look weak

I legit felt bad for the Phillies players

You gonna be alright?
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: MDS on June 26, 2018, 10:13:33 AM
it's much easier to feign outrage on the internet about something inconsequential than actually do something about it
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: Rome on June 26, 2018, 10:45:27 AM
Put a better product on the field and sellouts generated by the influx of opposition fans wonít be an issue. 

The end. 
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: ice grillin you on June 26, 2018, 12:10:19 PM
hopefully this week will open some eyes there
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: Rome on June 26, 2018, 12:18:34 PM
Harper AND Machado or BUST. 
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: AO1 on June 26, 2018, 12:21:28 PM
Harper AND Machado or BUST.

yup...and a #3 pitcher like Hamels and some bullpen pieces. If they strike out in free agency (romey pun) this offseason it's not gonna be pretty
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: smeags on June 26, 2018, 12:30:48 PM
lots of grease in that stadium last night.
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: Don Ho on June 26, 2018, 06:33:38 PM
Harper AND Machado or BUST.

yup...and a #3 pitcher like Hamels and some bullpen pieces. If WHEN they strike out in free agency (romey pun) this offseason it's not gonna be pretty
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: Rome on June 26, 2018, 06:49:33 PM
Say they add Machado & Harper.  Thatís another $70M/yr in payroll for the next 8 years.  They could probably backload the dollars, but even then theyíd still have more than enough for Colebert and probably several other complementary pieces. 

They better hit it hard or there will be a ďfarg youĒ revolt especially with the Eagles contending for Super Bowls every year, and the Sixers entering a possible dynastic era. 
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: Rome on June 26, 2018, 10:19:15 PM
Didnít they get Arrieta specifically for games like tonight?

The offense was non-existent too but still...
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: MDS on June 26, 2018, 10:44:17 PM
arrieta was a disaster tonight...didnt miss any bats and everything was hard hit. was throwing junk to get guys out. i dont care about the cesar error, yea that was bad but jake has looked like damaged goods this month. ever since he called out his team.

meanwhile severino was just incredible. high 90s, hitting 100 at times. on the corners. first pitch strikes to just about everyone.

phils arent ready for this at all

crowd id say was about 50/50....dork yankees fans there over cheering to try to start shtein.
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: ice grillin you on June 27, 2018, 04:57:10 AM
Say they add Machado & Harper.  Thatís another $70M/yr in payroll for the next 8 years.  They could probably backload the dollars, but even then theyíd still have more than enough for Colebert and probably several other complementary pieces. 

They better hit it hard or there will be a ďfarg youĒ revolt especially with the Eagles contending for Super Bowls every year, and the Sixers entering a possible dynastic era.

you know people are joking about getting both...thereís very little chance they get either
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: Don Ho on June 27, 2018, 06:44:42 AM
arrieta was a disaster tonight...
meanwhile severino was just incredible.
phils arent ready for this at all

crowd id say was about 50/50....dork yankees fans there over cheering to try to start shtein.

Yes on the first three comments.  Arrieta is bad right now, hope he can fix this.  Severino was amazing last night and so true, Bums a ways away from the big boys show.

Ok, help the dumb Hawaiian here.  Where are these Yankee fans coming from?  Are they coming down from NYC/Northern Jersey/Long Island?  Are they South Jersey/Delco meatheads (same A holes that cheer for the Cowboys and Lakers)?  I'm assuming its the former as this other than the Mets is the easiest road trip for them.
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: Geowhizzer on June 27, 2018, 10:20:13 PM
Who taught Eflin how to pitch?  He's been stellar this month.
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: ice grillin you on June 27, 2018, 10:32:18 PM
they told him to watch jake arrieta and do the opposite
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: Rome on June 28, 2018, 08:38:32 AM
Arrieta never wanted to set foot in Philly.  The only reason heís there is because his pimp daddy got a contract for him that no one else would offer. 

Heís Nnamdi Asomugha.
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: ice grillin you on June 28, 2018, 09:17:38 AM
and he came from a team that has more money than god

the stupid thing about that deal is that arrieta had been steadily getting worse for the last three years....what the farg would make them think he was going to start getting better again at age 32

at least its only three years and its not my money
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: MDS on June 28, 2018, 09:18:17 AM
its june 28 and the phillies are 2.5 out of the division and 1 game out of the playoffs

when their string of games against playoff caliber teams started, they were 8 games over .500. they are now 6 games over .500.

for the life of me, i have zero idea why there is so much negativity from the fanbase toward them. theyve been miserably bad and essentially irrelevant for 5 years.
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: QB Eagles on June 28, 2018, 09:26:13 AM
Probably some combination of the exciting Eagle and Sixers seasons, the lack of star power, Rhys Hoskins playing like a normal human being, plus the growing realization that no star is coming to this team in the offseason.

Statistically Arietta is virtually the same guy he was last year. Maybe the solid beginning to his season tricked people into thinking he was the guy from 2015?
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: MDS on June 28, 2018, 09:38:24 AM
Probably some combination of the exciting Eagle and Sixers seasons, the lack of star power, Rhys Hoskins playing like a normal human being, plus the growing realization that no star is coming to this team in the offseason.

the season is 3 months old. hoskins was really bad for 1 month and really good for 2. but hes not an mvp candidate so farg him? i dont get that.

also buster and a few other guys have the phils as the favs for machado. i dont understand where the "they have no shot at him" thing is coming from. just typical philadelphia victimhood.
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: ice grillin you on June 28, 2018, 10:57:46 AM
another problem is baseball has become almost unwatchable...the phillies have what should be an exciting team if nothing else because of the youth but even a team like that is boring as shtein with the way the game is today
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: Rome on June 28, 2018, 11:04:46 AM
Iím not watching as much because I donít have 4 hours a night to waste on watching this team.  Thatís just me personally.  I watch them if Nola is pitching.  Otherwise I just watch the ďhighlights.Ē

Thatís pretty much what I do with every team unless itís the Birds playing.  I can do three hours a week, but the other teams just take up too much of my time. 
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: ice grillin you on June 28, 2018, 11:08:18 AM
i watch them all the time....im just saying thats a part of the reason theres no buzz

also if rhys hoskins is your "star" player then you better get some more stars...not that he isnt good but hes so zzzzzzzzz
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: Rome on June 28, 2018, 11:10:08 AM
And by the way... itís not victimhood.  Itís just the reality of having superior destinations available to the finite number of elite players that will be on the market. 

New York, Los Angeles, Chicago... all better than Philly.   I know Middleton has his cancer stick billions to offer, but the fact is the Phillies (and Philly itself) arenít as attractive as other places.   Acknowledging that is not being negative... just realistic. 
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: MDS on June 28, 2018, 11:38:45 AM
you dont watch them but youve got some hot takes on them. good to know.

quick heads up: LA doesnt have a spot for machado and neither does chicago. the yankees are certainly conceivable but it seems less realistic given how well didi is doing there, how good torres is going to be and how much $ they are giving stanton and will have to give judge, sanchez and severino.

the phils main competition for machado, money wise, are like the white sox and cardinals. ive been saying this for years but theyre not going to be outbid for manny. if he wants to go ny he will go, but the phils have been prepping for this for 3-4 years. their offer is going to be stupid.

another problem is baseball has become almost unwatchable...the phillies have what should be an exciting team if nothing else because of the youth but even a team like that is boring as shtein with the way the game is today

this is somewhat valid though it has not resulted in a lack of buzz or interest in the yankees, dodgers, astros, etc. who all play a similar style. big difference, of course, is they have superstars where as they phillies do not.

im not necessarily referring to a lack of buzz though. given how putrid they were, theyre not going to get everyone back overnight. its more that there is an enormous amount of visceral anger at kapler, klentak, the pen, odubel, etc. yea, over the course of 162 games there are going to be bad moments and such. but overall theyve been doing better than any realistic projection and are playing meaningful games into july. its been 6 years since thats been the case. thats what i dont get.

Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: phattymatty on June 28, 2018, 12:20:33 PM
baseball is boring as farg the end.

Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: smeags on June 28, 2018, 12:39:05 PM
baseball is boring as farg the end.

yeah, but, but WARP !!
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: Rome on June 28, 2018, 01:40:46 PM
Itís VORP, Mr. Spock. 

Sheesh.
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: smeags on June 28, 2018, 03:07:13 PM
Quote
WARP stands for Wins Above Replacement Player. The term and concept are borrowed from sabermetrics and, specifically, Baseball Prospectus.

go drink your ensure, romey.
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: Rome on June 28, 2018, 04:39:38 PM
Warp this. 
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: smeags on June 28, 2018, 04:52:46 PM
Warp this.

pics plz
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: smeags on June 28, 2018, 09:28:49 PM
Hoskins !!
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: MDS on June 28, 2018, 10:13:45 PM
tommy hunter is a fat piece of shtein
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: Rome on June 29, 2018, 03:15:45 AM
Nola is an assassin.  Good shtein last night. 
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: Don Ho on June 29, 2018, 10:50:18 PM
Holy Hector Neris!  Train wreck, shtein show, doesn't do justice to how bad he is.  Dude just gave up 3 home runs in one inning.

He'd better be on suicide watch tonight. 
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: Geowhizzer on June 30, 2018, 07:58:23 PM
Pretty amazing play by VV after getting hit by the line drive.  Arm's probably broken, though... that was flush.

EDIT:  Apparently he's not dead. (https://www.nbcsports.com/philadelphia/phillies/vince-velasquez-philadelphia-phillies-great-believing-right-arm-broken-injury-washington-nationals)
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: Geowhizzer on July 01, 2018, 07:15:05 PM
Nice win by the Phils today.  Maybe they don't suck as bad as we thought.
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: Rome on July 01, 2018, 07:22:16 PM
Theyíre mediocre as farg.  But occasionally they win games and series like this and thatís great.  Itís better than watching them lose a hundy every year.  But the difference between this team and a legit winner is as evident as it will ever get. 

And something struck me today as I was watching the highlights.  I couldnít put my finger on it until today but then it hit me: 

Jake Arrieta is Kevin Millwood reincarnated.
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: MDS on July 01, 2018, 08:33:52 PM
anymore opinions you have about something you dont pay attention to or watch
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: Rome on July 01, 2018, 09:00:28 PM
Your mom definitely should have swallowed you. 
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: Don Ho on July 02, 2018, 06:19:07 AM
Was it the heat or a big holiday week coming up but why did CBP look empty today?

It's July and I'm scoreboard watching, this hot mess is keeping me interested.
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: ice grillin you on July 03, 2018, 11:33:07 AM
Quote
As​ Manny Machadoís world turns:

*The Baltimore​ Orioles want to act​ sooner rather than​ later,​ knowing​ they almost​ certainly​​ will receive a greater return if they trade Machado with approximately three months of control remaining instead of two, major league sources say.

The pace of the talks has accelerated in recent days, according to one source, but are the Orioles even capable of acting quickly? A team that reaches a tentative agreement with Dan Duquette, the Oriolesí executive vice-president of baseball operations, might be at only step one of the process.

One industry person familiar with the Oriolesí operation says any club negotiating with Duquette also will need to be in contact with Brady Anderson, the teamís VP of baseball operations. Anderson exerts considerable influence within the organization, working closely with the sons of owner Peter Angelos, John and Lou.

*The Orioles visit the Philadelphia Phillies on Tuesday and Wednesday, giving Machado a chance to showcase himself to the former Oís executives now running the Phillies ó and to the hungry Philadelphia ownership.

The conventional wisdom is that the Phillies do not want to trade top prospects for Machado when they can simply sign him as a free agent after the season. But the Phils, who just won three of four from the Washington Nationals, are not likely to fade anytime soon ó their next 16 games are against sub-.500 clubs.

The question, for every club interested in Machado, is the acquisition cost. Would the Phillies, for example, be willing to part with shortstop J.P. Crawford, a favorite of GM Matt Klentak, without knowing whether they could sign Machado long-term?

The Orioles are thought to like Crawford. The Phils value him so highly that they traded Freddy Galvis, the major league leader in defensive runs saved, to create an opening at shortstop. But Crawford, who is on the disabled list a second time and batting just .194, continues to elicit mixed opinions within the industry.

*If the Los Angeles Dodgers acquired Machado to play shortstop, they almost certainly would need to trade an outfielder ó probably center fielder Joc Pederson ó to clear a spot for the displaced Chris Taylor.

The Dodgers are deep in outfielders, and all of their regulars have increased their values since the start of the season. Pederson has as many extra-base hits (27) as strikeouts against right-handed pitching. Yasiel Puig has a .912 OPS since coming off the DL on May 9. Matt Kemp is likely to be an All-Star starter and a leading candidate for Comeback Player of the Year. Oh, and for good measure, Andrew Toles and Alex Verdugo are performing well at Triple A.

Part of the Dodgersí motivation for playing Max Muncy at second base is to keep him in the lineup along with all three of their outfielders as well as Cody Bellinger at first. The teamís greater need is pitching ó one rival executive predicts the Dodgers will acquire controllable relievers and/or bargain relievers right at the deadline. But Machado is too big a potential upgrade to simply ignore.

*The Arizona Diamondbacks and Cleveland Indians might be the teams most motivated to trade for Machado ó the D-Backs because their competitive window is starting to close, the Indians because their title drought will reach 70 years if they fail to win the World Series this season.

The Milwaukee Brewers are doing their due diligence on Machado, but likely will be unwilling to meet the Oriolesí asking price, according to sources. The Chicago Cubs, viewed as an early favorite, would appear to have a less urgent need with Addison Russell surging both offensively and defensively.

No team is the favorite for Machado at this point, not when one text or phone call can change everything. The Orioles also are busy on other fronts, aggressively trying to move right-handed reliever Brad Brach, according to one rival club. Lefty reliever Zach Britton and center fielder Adam Jones, potential free agents like Machado, are among their other trade candidates.
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: MDS on July 04, 2018, 09:46:15 AM
i went last night to see manny and can exclusively report he is sexy af
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: Don Ho on July 04, 2018, 07:54:37 PM
4th of July, 3 measly hits against a team that has clearly quit, basically one ďstarĒ on this team in
Nola, 1.5 games out, Braves in first,  Nats falling, iím stone sober so please explain.
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: ice grillin you on July 04, 2018, 09:30:09 PM
the phillies are 10 games above .500 and the nats are seven games out
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: MDS on July 04, 2018, 09:44:05 PM
4th of July, 3 measly hits against a team that has clearly quit, basically one ďstarĒ on this team in
Nola, 1.5 games out, Braves in first,  Nats falling, iím stone sober so please explain.

really good starting pitching, just enough hitting and 1 very good relief pitcher. oh and analytics.

but perhaps the biggest difference is chemistry. phils like coming to work, nats dont. nats are significantly more talented.
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: QB Eagles on July 04, 2018, 10:22:15 PM
Also the National League is currently reliving a modified version* of the dead ball era, so if your mental construct of what a top team looks like involves a murderers' row of offensive players bashing the ball all over the park, it's time to revise that.

* Homers are as important as ever, but base hits are being snuffed out.
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: MDS on July 05, 2018, 11:52:31 AM
bear in mind most of the people here havent watched baseball in 7 years and are really old
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: ice grillin you on July 06, 2018, 11:19:47 PM
first place phils but wish the nats had lost
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: MDS on July 06, 2018, 11:34:15 PM
the nats are in the same place as the mets....who cares
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: ice grillin you on July 06, 2018, 11:35:07 PM
you will when they win the division
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: MDS on July 06, 2018, 11:39:52 PM
if they win the division itll be because the phils and or braves collapsed (distinct possibility). your squad is a farce...phils do their thing they have zero to worry about

focus on atl
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: ice grillin you on July 06, 2018, 11:45:14 PM
the phils have a thing?
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: MDS on July 06, 2018, 11:47:09 PM
its july 7 and they are in 1st

so yes
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: ice grillin you on July 06, 2018, 11:48:37 PM
im sure youve told me but what is it again?
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: Geowhizzer on July 06, 2018, 11:56:09 PM
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Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: ice grillin you on July 06, 2018, 11:57:38 PM
also this social media craziness over the length of the game is everything bad about internet nerds in a nutshell....mother fargers it was a 22 run game...how would that ever not take forever...and the phillies moved into first and your lead is that the game was long as farg??
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: MDS on July 07, 2018, 12:12:12 AM
its beat writers irritated...they drove all day to pitt, got to the park at 3 and wont get out of there until after midnight. i get it, ive been there, but it wouldnt be a thing without twitter.

im sure youve told me but what is it again?

good starting pitching, taking pitches, seranthony

tonight they did 1/3 extroadinarily well

Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: ice grillin you on July 07, 2018, 12:30:58 AM
whats so ridiculous about their complaints is that they and fans are the first ones to bitch about a 4-3 game taking three hours and fifteen minutes

but a game with 22 total runs taking four plus is the worst thing ever?
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: Rome on July 07, 2018, 06:02:39 AM
Kruk made me laugh at least a half dozen times last night.  That was a great game and the fact that it was the longest nine inning game in Phils history made it kinda cool to watch. 
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: MDS on July 07, 2018, 10:09:56 PM
they look more and more like a legit good team every game

do nothing for 6.2 innings - string together a few hits - win

i keep going back to the kingery contract. its not something they wanted to do but admitted that scott 'forced their hand' with his play in the spring. team might be doing the same here.
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: ice grillin you on July 08, 2018, 03:31:04 PM
they are mostly garbage but so are must other teams and the few good teams around have either been injured and or havenít locked in quite yet

Iíll still be shocked if the nats donít win the division
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: MDS on July 08, 2018, 09:29:25 PM
the nats are in a real bad place right now...if the marlins werent a AAA team it couldve been worse
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: Rome on July 09, 2018, 11:55:47 AM
Nola is it.  Not really surprising.   Oddball had a minor case.

Itís amazing how much this team has accomplished with so little legit talent. 
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: ice grillin you on July 09, 2018, 02:23:07 PM

Itís amazing how much this team has accomplished with so little legit talent. 

theres a lot of teams like this...im by no means saying the phillies suck and the say braves or brewers are awesome....theres a lot of bad teams in the NL and the teams that should be good have struggled for major portions of the first half

the AL on the other hand is farging stacked
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: ice grillin you on July 09, 2018, 05:52:52 PM
has asdrubal ever gotten out against the Phillies as a member of the Mets?
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: Rome on July 09, 2018, 08:03:59 PM
Eflin pitched his ass off again.  Heís legit even if the Mets are a goddamn dumpster orgy. 
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: AO1 on July 09, 2018, 08:06:12 PM
2 men on no outs in the tenth and they get blanked. That was game. I hate double headers.
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: ice grillin you on July 09, 2018, 08:45:01 PM
Eflin pitched his ass off again.  Heís legit even if the Mets are a goddamn dumpster orgy.

he wasnít awful but he was also far from great

problem was in the two huge spots they had to use jesmul valentine and Dylan cozens
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: ice grillin you on July 09, 2018, 09:32:06 PM
I posted this last summer and itís even more true now...itís almost uncanny


when nola is on like this he looks exactly like greg maddux
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: MDS on July 09, 2018, 09:52:37 PM
Eflin pitched his ass off again.  Heís legit even if the Mets are a goddamn dumpster orgy.

uhh bro...3 runs in 5 innings.
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: MDS on July 09, 2018, 11:35:18 PM
Iíll still be shocked if the nats donít win the division

another brilliant effort tonight
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: ice grillin you on July 10, 2018, 07:16:18 AM
i know whats cool to do in a sport with a 162 games....post every night someone loses or wins

ill be back tonight if the nats win and especially if the phillies also lose

its a marathon not a sprint...usually the better team wins....if the nats pitching doesnt improve especially when strasburg returns and they dont make a run and win the division ill be shocked....really if the braves or phillies win the division everyone should be
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: MDS on July 10, 2018, 09:40:03 AM
over half the season has been played and the nats are a broken down geriatric farce

baseball is a young mans game now...but im sure theyll turn it around!
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: Rome on July 11, 2018, 08:25:42 AM
Mike Mike is heating up and a nice outing from the AAA kid. 
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: ice grillin you on July 11, 2018, 08:56:06 AM
mike has been hot for almost a month
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: smeags on July 11, 2018, 09:08:54 AM
romey's been too busy being a soccer fan to notice.
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: Rome on July 11, 2018, 09:50:47 AM
Mostly girl on girl action.  But soccer too. 
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: ice grillin you on July 11, 2018, 09:52:09 AM
i dont give a farg about the game itself but i wanna know how that dump of stadium in dc gets an all star game before the bank....the nats werent even a team when the bank was built
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: Rome on July 11, 2018, 10:02:17 AM
2026 is a shoo-in for Philly. 

Plus, who cares.  Itís a farging beer-league exhibition that no one cares about anymore. 
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: ice grillin you on July 11, 2018, 10:08:53 AM
its great for the city both monetarily and puts it in the national spotlight for a minute
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: MDS on July 11, 2018, 11:03:34 AM
romey has zero connection to philly...he just likes the sports teams. or a sports team. hes from the shore and the swamp of florida. 

but he did mention the correct thing! phils want 2026 and have been waiting for that. of course that is the same year as the world cup in the usa and naturally the asg will be swallowed up by it.
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: Rome on July 11, 2018, 11:10:09 AM
I was born there and lived there for a quarter century.  But sure, no connection.  Clown. 
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: ice grillin you on July 11, 2018, 11:16:03 AM
2026 has nothing to do with not having had it yet....no one was thinking about 2026 in 04 or 05...it came up a few years ago....i wonder if this is the longest a new baseball stadium has ever gone without getting the game
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: MDS on July 11, 2018, 12:00:26 PM
2026 has nothing to do with not having had it yet....no one was thinking about 2026 in 04 or 05

this is the opposite of the truth.

the phillies havent bid on the asg because they wanted it secured for 2026. otherwise they wouldve gotten it by now.
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: Rome on July 11, 2018, 12:03:40 PM
The Bank opened in 2003 and the Phils last hosted it in 1996.  No chance they were getting one that soon regardless if they had a new stadium. 
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: ice grillin you on July 11, 2018, 12:05:25 PM
The Bank opened in 2003 and the Phils last hosted it in 1996.  No chance they were getting one that soon regardless if they had a new stadium.

hmmm that might be a good point...i forgot about 96....i wonder with the influx of new stadiums if anyone has had two all star games in an unusually short amount of time because of a new stadium
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: ice grillin you on July 11, 2018, 12:10:10 PM
i dont see any examples but i didnt look terribly hard....i did notice the match up bwtn the two leagues all time is tied at 43-43
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: MDS on July 11, 2018, 12:16:04 PM
The Bank opened in 2003 and the Phils last hosted it in 1996.  No chance they were getting one that soon regardless if they had a new stadium.

pittsburgh got in 94 and 06

again. this was 100% about the phils wanting 2026. they are then going to wait for 2076, with perhaps 1 in between if we're not all cyborgs by then.
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: Rome on July 11, 2018, 12:55:33 PM
Iíll be 111 then, so yes for the cyborg option. 
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: Geowhizzer on July 11, 2018, 11:00:10 PM
Tremendous effort by VV tonight.  Too bad the offense couldn't get one in for him.
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: AO1 on July 12, 2018, 07:14:01 PM
How do Phillies fans take over an away stadium on a Thursday for a one game series. I get the Orioles attendance is bad but still impressive.
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: ice grillin you on July 13, 2018, 03:27:29 AM
cause me and the lil guy were there?
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: MDS on July 13, 2018, 06:29:02 PM
can confirm

also can confirm phils are dangling medina to the o's for manny....not sure why it took this long to offer him
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: ice grillin you on July 14, 2018, 07:38:08 PM
what a disgraceful wasted opportunity
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: Don Ho on July 14, 2018, 08:44:47 PM
^^yep^^

lead off man on base 4 times today and el zilcho. 
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: Geowhizzer on July 14, 2018, 10:08:31 PM
Sorry.  I screwed them over by being there.

Crowd at first pitch.  It did grow a bit larger.  Miami traffic sucks.

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Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: Don Ho on July 14, 2018, 10:36:40 PM
You didn't sit way out there did you?

I was surprised at the noise level in the latter innings by the Miami fans.
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: Geowhizzer on July 14, 2018, 10:54:36 PM
The view wasn't bad from our seats.  And it was a Philly-dominated section.

I did, however, want to run on the field and smack Franco upside the head when he handed the fair ball to the fan.
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: MDS on July 15, 2018, 01:23:44 PM
odubel has a 260 obp since the end of may
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: AO1 on July 15, 2018, 02:23:50 PM
Hail Caesar
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: Rome on July 15, 2018, 02:50:18 PM
Four straight hard hit balls and now a hits batsman. 

And here comes dickface suntan.
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: Rome on July 15, 2018, 02:56:19 PM
Nice job not knowing how many outs you have, Santana you fat pos. 
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: Don Ho on July 15, 2018, 06:39:27 PM
First place at All-Star break, puzzled but happy.

Can't be shteintin' the bed against teams like the Marlins.
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: MDS on July 15, 2018, 09:13:47 PM
friday:

cesar-MANNY-odubel-rhys-los-nick-georgy-mike
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: MDS on July 17, 2018, 01:20:02 PM
friday:

cesar-MANNY-odubel-rhys-los-nick-georgy-mike

this is not the dodgers lineup
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: ice grillin you on July 17, 2018, 04:18:45 PM
dodgers can afford to offer a lot more as they have a good chance to lock him up long term...phillies have almost no chance
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: Rome on July 17, 2018, 06:10:03 PM
The Phillies are going to go for broke.  Klentak has the tobacco pimp breathing down his neck now and money is no object either.   
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: ice grillin you on July 17, 2018, 08:06:17 PM
dodgers have more money and more importantly he wants to play in LA
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: MDS on July 17, 2018, 08:10:38 PM
dodgers can afford to offer a lot more as they have a good chance to lock him up long term...phillies have almost no chance

not exactly

first off machado, when he signs, will sign to be a ss. corey seager is their ss.

next you have to project the dodgers payroll not only for next year but for 2020 and beyond. they are going to keep paying kershaw 30+. seager gets expensive next year. bellinger the year after that. the owe justin turner 40 mil. jasen is owed 20 the next 3 years. they dont want to take their payroll too far over the luxury tax - lets call that 190. they are 130 already next year.

not saying they cant afford machado or that he wont love it there, but its not that easy. the phillies have zero committments to anyone important and can write him a blank check. they can offer him ss. its not a lock.
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: ice grillin you on July 17, 2018, 08:25:39 PM
he doesnít want to go to the Phillies...itís why the dodgers can give up more for him cause they know in all likelihood he will sign with them....in fact wouldnít shock me if they have the framework in place...heís already told people and itís well known he wants to play in LA so even if somehow the Phillies offered more money and thatís most likely not going to happen he would take a little less to go to LA...honestly probably 50/50 if he even makes it to the open market if he gets traded to the dodgers

also position literally means nothing in the big picture no team is losing a free agent of that caliber because of position...they will just moved Seager somewhere else if manny insists on SS and I donít know that he puts the dodgers in that predictament like he would the Phillies for example
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: MDS on July 17, 2018, 08:29:42 PM
if he is 10000% signing with the dodgers than there is literally no point in even attempting to trade for him

but it isnt
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: ice grillin you on July 18, 2018, 08:19:24 AM
its not 100% he signs with the dodgers...but to your point while its not 100% there is very little chance he signs with the phillies and so as much as i love him i agree there is no point in the phillies getting involved other than some good but not great offers just to see what the market is
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: QB Eagles on July 18, 2018, 09:10:14 AM
So what's up next? A needless Hamels trade to try to get fans to come to the ballpark, plus some cheap relievers, followed by flailing around in the offseason when Manny reups with the Dodgers?
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: MDS on July 18, 2018, 09:19:49 AM
So what's up next? A needless Hamels trade to try to get fans to come to the ballpark, plus some cheap relievers, followed by flailing around in the offseason when Manny reups with the Dodgers?

eddie escobar is the best middle infield bat out there....nick castellanos is the best overall hitter out there...donaldson and moustakas are lower risk power bats. then theres your bullpen arms like hand and britton.

just give up the franchise for trout...why not.

its not 100% he signs with the dodgers...but to your point while its not 100% there is very little chance he signs with the phillies and so as much as i love him i agree there is no point in the phillies getting involved other than some good but not great offers just to see what the market is

they offered medina but balked at sixto and jhaylin, which i get. solid offer but the dodgers one was better.

again the phillies are not going to be outbid on manny and im really not sure if hes a perfect fit in LA. they will be in the mix for him.
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: AO1 on July 18, 2018, 10:10:58 AM
So what's up next? A needless Hamels trade to try to get fans to come to the ballpark, plus some cheap relievers, followed by flailing around in the offseason when Manny reups with the Dodgers?

Iíd like Hamels back because itís a great story and yes they should focus on finding a middle reliever. I donít think Machado signs a new deal without testing free agency. I wanted him but Iím glad the Phillies didnít part with legit controllable talent for a possible one year rental. To be honest I doubt we get Manny or Bryce, I think Trouts a Phillie come 2020. This is where he wants to be. For now Iím willing to trust the Process. Theyíre in 1st place and have a lot of developing talent.
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: MDS on July 18, 2018, 02:12:42 PM
Theyíre in 1st place and have a lot of developing talent.

since when did you provide rational takes
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: AO1 on July 18, 2018, 02:20:50 PM
Theyíre in 1st place and have a lot of developing talent.

since when did you provide rational takes

No choice at this point. They missed the boat on everyone (as predicted). They're not signing anyone this offseason. They'll be outbid. Trout 2020.

I'd like to see them add a BP arm before the deadline and I'll go with the who the hell knows option if they make the playoffs. Nola is a stud, Arrieta has playoff experience, maybe they get timely hitting and Kapler doesn't overmanage and they make some noise.
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: Rome on July 18, 2018, 02:20:53 PM
Iím glad they didnít give up the farm for Machado.  At least someone over there is using his head for a change. 
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: Rome on July 18, 2018, 02:23:16 PM
And there is no chance theyíll be outbid.  A guy may take less money but if it comes down to that and that alone, theyíll win the bid. 
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: MDS on July 18, 2018, 02:35:15 PM
No choice at this point. They missed the boat on everyone (as predicted). They're not signing anyone this offseason. They'll be outbid. Trout 2020.

I'd like to see them add a BP arm before the deadline and I'll go with the who the hell knows option if they make the playoffs. Nola is a stud, Arrieta has playoff experience, maybe they get timely hitting and Kapler doesn't overmanage and they make some noise.

first off its trout 2021. second theyll sign SOMEONE. they might not get manny or bryce but they have money to spend and last time i checked people like money.

as for this season they are still in the mix for the nl east. i dont see it happening but its not unattainable. even with manny i give them little to no shot in the playoffs. nola and arrieta would have to pitch out of their minds.
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: AO1 on July 18, 2018, 02:48:18 PM
"Someone" is the likes of Carlos Santana to which I say no thanks, I'd rather see what one of the young bucks can do. As for Trout, the Angels will trade him before he reaches free agency to maximize return so I stick by 2020.

Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: MDS on July 18, 2018, 03:25:18 PM
total trump move there...errr i wasnt wrong what i meant to say was _____
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: AO1 on July 18, 2018, 04:38:17 PM
total trump move there...errr i wasnt wrong what i meant to say was _____

I would agree with you there

wouldn't
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: MDS on July 19, 2018, 09:20:35 AM
Quote
"This is about 2018 for us. We hope he plays well and creates a good market for himself."

dodgers gm

but DURRR manny isnt leaving la
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: ice grillin you on July 19, 2018, 09:24:53 AM
like hes going to say anything about his free agency in july when they are about to start the second half of a season that is world series or bust

not a chance they gave up 5 prospects and diaz being one of them with no intention of keeping him
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: ice grillin you on July 20, 2018, 08:30:13 PM
lol Freddy galvis working the phils
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: MDS on July 20, 2018, 08:51:57 PM
i know everyone hates the bb-k-hr nature of the game but tonight is why it matters so much...arrieta cant miss bats and his asking for this kind of thing all the time
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: Rome on July 21, 2018, 09:12:57 AM
I personally don't hate it.  It's just boring in comparison to how it's supposed to be played. 
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: MDS on July 21, 2018, 11:43:05 AM
how is baseball supposed to be played? are players supposed to intentially ground out or something

its not like runs per game are going in a wild direction...its just that more outs are being recorded via strikeout than before and more runs are being scored via homers. but people like dingers.
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: Rome on July 21, 2018, 11:55:03 AM
Strikeouts are awful.  Theyíre almost 100% useless.  Watching batters who are unable to put the ball into play is mind-numbingly horrible and thatís also the primary reason why the games are so long.
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: ice grillin you on July 22, 2018, 01:45:35 AM
dont happen often but romey is on point
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: Rome on July 22, 2018, 09:36:44 AM
Romey is always right.  If you accept that and live your life accordingly, youíll be a blissful motherfarger. 
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: ice grillin you on July 22, 2018, 10:44:21 AM
this tiger thing really might happen?
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: MDS on July 22, 2018, 04:24:26 PM
dont happen often but romey is on point

Strikeouts are awful.  Theyíre almost 100% useless.  Watching batters who are unable to put the ball into play is mind-numbingly horrible and thatís also the primary reason why the games are so long.

not exacty. games are longer because of: pitches thrown per game, time inbetween pitches and commercial breaks in between innings. on the whole each of these things by themselves isnt a significant enough of factor, but combined they contribute to it.

a byproduct of more pitches is more strikeouts (and more walks), so romey was on the right path, sort of.
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: ice grillin you on July 22, 2018, 04:57:44 PM
gelb just tweeted that los is leading off in game two
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: MDS on July 22, 2018, 05:53:27 PM
their lineup is a complete disgrace

borderline fireable offense for klentak and kap
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: AO1 on July 22, 2018, 06:14:11 PM
I heard the ball Myers hit in game one just landed on 95
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: Geowhizzer on July 22, 2018, 07:36:22 PM
Why in the ever loving farg is Valentin still in the major leagues?
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: MDS on July 22, 2018, 07:53:48 PM
Why in the ever loving farg is Valentin still in the major leagues?

i think you mean walding....or altherr...but also valentin
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: Geowhizzer on July 22, 2018, 08:08:26 PM
Why in the ever loving farg is Valentin still in the major leagues?

i think you mean walding....or altherr...but also valentin

I was actually surprised to hear Walding was in the lineup today, because I thought he was back in the minors.
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: ice grillin you on July 22, 2018, 08:17:43 PM
Why in the ever loving farg is Valentin still in the major leagues?

i think you mean walding....or altherr...but also valentin

lol
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: MDS on July 22, 2018, 08:21:33 PM
Why in the ever loving farg is Valentin still in the major leagues?

i think you mean walding....or altherr...but also valentin

I was actually surprised to hear Walding was in the lineup today, because I thought he was back in the minors.

they brought up walding due to some roster manipulation with eflin being on the dl. he will be sent down after the game since zach is starting tomorrow. usually have 4 bench bats but hes the 5th since they have they extra roster spot. walding and cuzzo are the lone bats on the 40 man.

you asked
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: AO1 on July 23, 2018, 10:32:19 PM
SAD!
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: ice grillin you on July 23, 2018, 10:40:52 PM
they get swept in this series right?
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: Don Ho on July 24, 2018, 03:56:08 AM
"All signs point to yes"
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: Don Ho on July 24, 2018, 03:58:41 AM
ODH's throw home last night on the Doyers go ahead run was a disgrace to anyone who has played center field in the big leagues. Ever.  Candy ass
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: Don Ho on July 24, 2018, 04:00:33 AM
Surprised at the amount of Doyers fans at CBP last night.
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: MDS on July 24, 2018, 09:05:58 AM
they get swept in this series right?

before the week started i said id be thrilled with 3-4 but expecting worse

dodgers are much better than them and cinci is a bad matchup
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: Rome on July 24, 2018, 11:29:58 AM
The Dodgers have Manny and the Phillies donít.  Thatís really the difference maker because otherwise both teams are the definition of meh. 
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: Don Ho on July 24, 2018, 09:27:23 PM
Dodgers lineup is far superior to the Phils, even without Manny and that sexy hairdo.
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: MDS on July 24, 2018, 09:38:54 PM
The Dodgers have Manny and the Phillies donít.  Thatís really the difference maker because otherwise both teams are the definition of meh.

the dodgers are really good. you dont watch baseball. stop.
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: Geowhizzer on July 24, 2018, 09:49:24 PM
The Dodgers did go to the World Series last year, while last year's Phils couldn't have made the Little League World Series.
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: MDS on July 24, 2018, 09:50:40 PM
the dodgers are so deep, too. most of their bench players would start for the phillies.

additionally: jorge alfaro is a maddening player but he has an elite arm and THAT kind of power
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: Don Ho on July 24, 2018, 10:38:55 PM
the dodgers are so deep, too. most of their bench players would start for the phillies.

additionally: jorge alfaro is a maddening player but he has an elite arm and THAT kind of power

Point A - so true, they have always had one of the best farm systems in all of baseball.  It is amazing how they keep finding these gems year after year.

Point B - why in God's name did that fat ass swing at that first pitch, dude pitching was all over the place, take a few.
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: Don Ho on July 24, 2018, 11:32:39 PM
Enough with the Chase slop fest.  Good God!  First ovation was fine but stop already.   Grit scores the winning run these dick rods might just storm the field and carry him off.
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: Geowhizzer on July 24, 2018, 11:35:52 PM
I have a feeling this is going to be a long second half.  Their offense just isn't good enough.
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: MDS on July 24, 2018, 11:42:17 PM
so one of the worst teams in baseball last year isnt going to make the playoffs this year? err ma god

cant people just enjoy this...theyre good again...theyre a year ahead of schedule....house money 2nd half
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: Don Ho on July 25, 2018, 05:18:59 AM
Well that was fun!  6 hours of baseball, really enjoyed it. 
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: Rome on July 25, 2018, 05:27:12 AM
The Dodgers have Manny and the Phillies donít.  Thatís really the difference maker because otherwise both teams are the definition of meh.

the dodgers are really good. you dont watch baseball. stop.

Both teams have 56 wins a hundred games into the season.   Iím sure youíll explain how thatís a limited sample size or that you canít judge a teamís actual value by their record. 
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: AO1 on July 25, 2018, 07:37:35 AM
so one of the worst teams in baseball last year isnt going to make the playoffs this year? err ma god

cant people just enjoy this...theyre good again...theyre a year ahead of schedule....house money 2nd half

This has been a very good year for Philly sports as far as exceeding expectations
Birds
Sixers won 52 and made it to the 2nd. Most of us had them winning 40 and getting bounced in the 1st.
Flyers were decent and made the playoffs. Looked semi competent for stretches of the season
Phillies are relevant heading into August. Can't ask for much more from this squad.

I was proud of myself for making it to the 13th inning before passing out.
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: MDS on July 25, 2018, 09:52:21 AM
The Dodgers have Manny and the Phillies don’t.  That’s really the difference maker because otherwise both teams are the definition of meh.

the dodgers are really good. you dont watch baseball. stop.

Both teams have 56 wins a hundred games into the season.   I’m sure you’ll explain how that’s a limited sample size or that you can’t judge a team’s actual value by their record.

the dodgers were horrible in april....there was legit talk of them selling. seager was hurt. so was kershaw. jansen was blowing saves. the ship was righted. they traded for machado. kershaw is back. they are the team to beat in the nl and will likely have the most wins by game 162.

them having the same wins as the phillies in late july means nothing. the dodgers are better. the fact that the phils are playing with them is impressive.
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: ice grillin you on July 25, 2018, 10:44:54 AM
Ranger Suarez will end the Philliesí 267-game streak of not having a left-handed starting pitcher when he makes his major-league debut Thursday in Cincinnati against the Reds.
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: Rome on July 25, 2018, 01:16:41 PM
The Dodgers are the best 56 win team after 100 games ever.

The Phillies, on the other hand...
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: Geowhizzer on July 25, 2018, 01:39:19 PM
Jim Jackson on the radio:  "A drive to right field... but it's shallow."
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: AO1 on July 25, 2018, 02:18:46 PM
That was some clutch hitting by Santana. Down 0-2 and fights back to hit a base clearing triple
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: ice grillin you on July 25, 2018, 02:19:05 PM
phillie PH this season are hitting .213 and its only 18th worst in baseball
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: ice grillin you on July 25, 2018, 02:34:22 PM
lol arrieta clearly throws a ball on strike three to kemp and it was obvious with the eye but then they did the pitch track box and it still said ball and mccarthy says "well it was close to the line"
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: Rome on July 25, 2018, 02:55:21 PM
Iím watching at work. 

GUBMINT
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: AO1 on July 25, 2018, 03:14:08 PM
That was close

I understand matchups and all that bullshtein but Morgan was throwing very well, no reason to put SAD in in that situation.
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: ice grillin you on July 25, 2018, 03:36:23 PM
omg mccarthy just said "this will be the last half inning we get to see chase until maybe the postseason"

HES NOT IN THE fargING GAME
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: MDS on July 25, 2018, 03:40:44 PM
That was close

I understand matchups and all that bullshtein but Morgan was throwing very well, no reason to put SAD in in that situation.

and so it is, only july 25, someone advocates for adam morgan over seranthony dominguez
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: Rome on July 25, 2018, 03:54:39 PM
The Dodger juggernaut lost two of three to the little engine that wonít. 

HOW IS THIS POSSIBLE?
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: MDS on July 25, 2018, 04:02:39 PM
because its july and the dodgers dont care and the phillies do

the 2010 phillies were swept in a 4 gamer by the tanking astros. i guess the astros were better.
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: ice grillin you on July 25, 2018, 04:09:31 PM
pretty much that

kudos to the phillies for winning the series but there was a 7-6 four hour game and a 16 inning six plus hour game....as true as a 162 game regular season is any random three game baseball series is equally untrue and there are 20 things each series that could have gone either way to turn it for one team
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: Rome on July 25, 2018, 04:09:46 PM
I enjoyed watching them play during this series.  They hit a bunch of homers, which appears to be the only way they can actually score since manufacturing runs via non-dingers is out.

Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: Rome on July 25, 2018, 04:12:47 PM
So youíre saying anything could have happened because anything can, in fact, happen?

Thatís pretty Zen, bro. 
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: MDS on July 25, 2018, 04:16:06 PM
that and the dodgers didnt care enough to use a SP yesterday...the phillies did. then today the dodgers were in the get the farg gone mode, the phils were ready to ball.

when you make the playoffs every year you dont care about throwing away 2 games in july to some whatever team. when youre tasting tit for the first time you are rock hard for these spots.
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: Rome on July 27, 2018, 05:12:57 AM
They hit a bunch of homers

Again. 
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: smeags on July 27, 2018, 07:53:13 AM
this place.
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: Rome on July 27, 2018, 11:22:47 AM
Our house... in the middle of the street,
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: AO1 on July 27, 2018, 05:57:04 PM
Ken Rosenthal
Twitter õ Ken_Rosenthal
#Phillies acquiring Asdrubal Cabrera from #Mets for Double A RHP Franklyn Kilomť, sources tell The Athletic.
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: Rome on July 27, 2018, 06:31:05 PM
Whoa.  Thatís a solid pickup there. 
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: AO1 on July 27, 2018, 06:47:06 PM
I donít like giving up Kilome but they addressed a definite need and added some flexibility. Get another bullpen arm without giving too much up and make a run. Theyíre not elite talent wise but they have good starting pitching, timely hitting in spurts, and power. So letís do this.

Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: QB Eagles on July 27, 2018, 06:58:30 PM
The trade makes sense for both teams. Not a whole lot to criticize here.
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: AO1 on July 27, 2018, 07:03:33 PM
The trade makes sense for both teams. Not a whole lot to criticize here.

Todd and havas will be along shortly
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: Rome on July 27, 2018, 07:04:37 PM
Cabrera is a nice player. He instantly upgrades SS plus he can spell Cesar at second too.  Iím not crazy about giving up great prospects but Kilomeí isnít one of them. 

Cabrera helps them now, and if the Phils are gonna get Manny, theyíre going to have to have more to offer than just a pile of cash.  A winning team or even a playoff squad gives them something extra to point to if LA lets him out of the building in the off-season. 
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: Geowhizzer on July 27, 2018, 07:08:28 PM
Ken Rosenthal
Twitter õ Ken_Rosenthal
#Phillies acquiring Asdrubal Cabrera from #Mets for Double A RHP Franklyn Kilomť, sources tell The Athletic.

(https://78.media.tumblr.com/f2b2fe3435b13b6d92f44cced9dd9c08/tumblr_nomr17FFSt1tym3lfo1_400.gif)
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: MDS on July 27, 2018, 07:27:35 PM
cabrera can certainly hit the question is defense. where does he play. his range isnt good, which is a bit of an issue for ss. thats your biggest offensive need. id imagine they try him at ss and see how it goes. if he bad he shuffles between rf and 3b or just acts as a very good pinch hitter.

kilome was passed by others in the org and really projects as a bottom of the rotation starter or middle reliever. theres a chance, of course, he tops that and such a thing will not be good since hes on the mets. but a decent bet to make that he wont come back to get them.

in the mean time, cabrera is a significant improvement for their team now.
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: AO1 on July 27, 2018, 07:31:50 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/IW8simF.gif)

10 straight minutes
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: ice grillin you on July 28, 2018, 09:05:34 AM
kilome ceiling is as high as anyoneís he could a top rotation guy or a great closet if he can ever get his mechanics straight and be able to repeat them

itís a definite overpay for Cabrera but not a super egregious one

also here come the nats
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: MDS on July 28, 2018, 09:21:18 AM
2 wins over the marlins

watch out everyone
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: Munson on July 28, 2018, 01:48:16 PM
Apparently theyíre interested in Joey Gallo
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: Geowhizzer on July 28, 2018, 02:05:54 PM
Don't know what I think about that.  I know Gallo has power and takes walks... but he can't even get on the right side of the Mendoza line.
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: QB Eagles on July 28, 2018, 02:21:38 PM
Seems like a weird fit. I also can't imagine the Rangers letting him go for a price I'd be willing to pay for a long term project.
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: Rome on July 28, 2018, 03:06:43 PM
kilome ceiling is as high as anyoneís he could a top rotation guy or a great closet if he can ever get his mechanics straight and be able to repeat them

itís a definite overpay for Cabrera but not a super egregious one

also here come the nats

Hilarious even for you. 
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: QB Eagles on July 29, 2018, 04:11:34 PM
2 wins over the marlins

watch out everyone

This was more comforting before the Phils dropped 3 in a row to a team as bad as the Marlins.

Luckily the Braves and Nats aren't doing a lot of winning lately either.
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: ice grillin you on July 29, 2018, 04:21:40 PM
Everyone knew this was coming just surprised it took this long

so glad they gave up Frankie for that pos met
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: MDS on July 29, 2018, 07:50:47 PM
before the week started i said id be thrilled with 3-4 but expecting worse

dodgers are much better than them and cinci is a bad matchup

welp

good thing im going to boston to seem them. maybe assdrubel cabrera will get a hit before mitch walding does
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: AO1 on July 29, 2018, 11:22:24 PM
Theyíre a weird team, I can see them sweeping the sox then losing 3 out of 4 to the Marlins.

Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: MDS on July 30, 2018, 12:39:06 AM
theres been a few times this year where youve figured the bottom is going to drop out, so you cant write them off after 3 poor games against a team that has been essentially as good as them as since late april (go look up the records).

but i would be floored if they swept the sox or really even won a game. boston is other worldly good
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: Don Ho on July 30, 2018, 07:07:49 AM
Bums split in bean town we all need to celebrate with champagne.  Boston is playing in another solar system right now.
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: ice grillin you on July 30, 2018, 07:58:16 AM
pitching matchups are pretty favorable....they have a shot at one with nola (albeit vs. price) tonight and arrieta pomeranz tomorrow
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: Don Ho on July 30, 2018, 06:54:33 PM
Anxious to see how Nola and Arrieta do against this freak show.
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: ice grillin you on July 30, 2018, 07:39:46 PM
itís difficult to put into words just how bad Scott kingery is
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: Rome on July 30, 2018, 07:54:35 PM
Try
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: Don Ho on July 30, 2018, 07:57:13 PM
Or how dumb ODH is.
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: AO1 on July 30, 2018, 07:57:14 PM
Great base running you farging idiots
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: Don Ho on July 30, 2018, 07:58:15 PM
ODH has got to be the dumbest baseball player on the planet. 
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: Rome on July 30, 2018, 07:58:21 PM
That was pretty funny. 
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: Rome on July 30, 2018, 07:59:51 PM
You have to admit these guys put the fun in fundamentals. 
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: Don Ho on July 30, 2018, 08:05:33 PM
fargdamentals
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: ice grillin you on July 30, 2018, 09:11:37 PM
ODH has got to be the dumbest baseball player on the planet.

Did Shane Victorino retire?
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: Don Ho on July 30, 2018, 09:56:40 PM
ODH has got to be the dumbest baseball player on the planet.

Did Shane Victorino retire?

Pineapple head was good for a boner once or twice a week.  ODH can be counted on for at least two a game.

Speaking of Pineapple Head did you see all the alumni coming back for his retirement?
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: Don Ho on July 30, 2018, 10:06:56 PM
Don't know how many of you have been to Fenway but when I was in school at UNH we'd make the hour drive down to Boston 5 or 6 times a year to go to Red Sox games.  Get in for like $4 after the fourth inning and it was sit where ever you wanted.  The place looks like a shtein hole from the street but the minute you walk in and see that green monster and the field it hits you like a ton of bricks - the history, the mystique, the aura, truly amazing.  My last year there was 1987 so I was there in 86 and it was crazy.  One out, one strike away and BOOM! 
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: Geowhizzer on July 30, 2018, 10:08:20 PM
Wasted opportunities.  Story of this game.
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: Geowhizzer on July 30, 2018, 10:13:35 PM
Why in the fargity farg are they putting in Hunter?
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: Don Ho on July 30, 2018, 10:14:27 PM
Hunter?  Good night fellas.
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: Geowhizzer on July 30, 2018, 10:24:39 PM
(http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c388/geowhizzer/Whiff.gif)
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: ice grillin you on July 30, 2018, 10:27:16 PM
Speaking of Pineapple Head did you see all the alumni coming back for his retirement?

yeah....Iím going

Don't know how many of you have been to Fenway but when I was in school at UNH we'd make the hour drive down to Boston 5 or 6 times a year to go to Red Sox games.  Get in for like $4 after the fourth inning and it was sit where ever you wanted.  The place looks like a shtein hole from the street but the minute you walk in and see that green monster and the field it hits you like a ton of bricks - the history, the mystique, the aura, truly amazing.  My last year there was 1987 so I was there in 86 and it was crazy.  One out, one strike away and BOOM! 

Iíve been twice in the last seven years...itís a complete and utter dump with none of the charm that wrigley has in spades


no matter who wins this game it has been fantastic for an almost august baseball game
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: Don Ho on July 30, 2018, 11:15:55 PM
Garcia = White Flag
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: ice grillin you on July 30, 2018, 11:16:59 PM
if the Phillies somehow make the playoffs I could see them getting swept and scoring less than five runs in the series
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: Don Ho on July 30, 2018, 11:24:47 PM
You mean 2007?
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: Geowhizzer on July 31, 2018, 02:57:46 PM
Phils get...

Wilson Ramos from the Rays.

Edit:  For cash or a player to be named. (https://sports.yahoo.com/phillies-acquire-wilson-ramos-upgrade-catching-staff-185315713.html)
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: AO1 on July 31, 2018, 03:06:55 PM
Phils get...

Wilson Ramos from the Rays.

https://www.mlb.com/news/wilson-ramos-traded-to-phillies/c-288192622

Like it. Knapp is horrible.
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: Geowhizzer on July 31, 2018, 03:08:57 PM
Phils get...

Wilson Ramos from the Rays.

https://www.mlb.com/news/wilson-ramos-traded-to-phillies/c-288192622

Like it. Knapp is horrible.

It will be nice to actually have a catcher who doesn't swing so freaking hard that his helmet comes off every damn at bat.  And can actually catch pitches.

Alfaro's got tools, but has a lot to learn.  Knapp should be fired from a cannon.
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: Geowhizzer on July 31, 2018, 03:54:51 PM
Phils get...

Aaron Loup from the Blue Jays.
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: ice grillin you on July 31, 2018, 03:56:48 PM
always good to get a lefty reliever who isnt very good against lefties

the ramos move was an absolute steal
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: Geowhizzer on July 31, 2018, 04:02:31 PM
Looks like Kleintak is trying to add without dipping too far in to the system.

I agree, Ramos (if he can get healthy relatively quickly) is a good add.  Improves the offense, and more importantly the defense at the catching position.

Not sure I get adding Loup.  He's having a terrible season.  Not sure I want Tommy Hunter's reflection added to the bullpen.
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: Rome on July 31, 2018, 05:04:08 PM
Wait what?!?

They got Ramos for freaking cash?   That canít be right. 
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: Rome on July 31, 2018, 05:09:18 PM
Just checked it.  Iíll be damned.   Does Tampa have the next Johnny Bench in waiting?
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: ice grillin you on July 31, 2018, 05:16:02 PM
from tampas standpoint hes gonna be 31 is always hurt and is a free agent.....he doesnt fit there at all

from the phillies standpoint hes not going to be playing for them until possibly september and is a free agent who they will not be resigning

the cost was clearly going to be low but tampa is not even going to get a top 30 phillie prospect
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: Rome on July 31, 2018, 07:55:33 PM
Obviously theyíre going to activate him before September 1st just in case theyíre still in a pennant race.   I think this is a kick in the pants for Alfaro and Knapp whoíve been just ok.  Getting a veteran in there to push the kids is a good thing.   At the very least theyíll have someone whoís been there and done that for a long time to learn from.  And for nothing more than cash too.  Itís a no-lose situation. 
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: ice grillin you on July 31, 2018, 08:30:05 PM
itís not a matter of activating him...his hammy is jacked up...earliest he shows up is middle August but hammys are tricky and his has already delayed his return once
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: Rome on July 31, 2018, 09:28:24 PM
?
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: ice grillin you on July 31, 2018, 09:31:47 PM
you are talking about activating him before September 1 like heís being called up

heís hurt
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: Rome on July 31, 2018, 09:37:39 PM
What is wrong with you?  When a player returns to the active roster from the DL, heís been activated.

When a player joins the major league roster from the minors, thats referred to as a ďcall up.Ē
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: Don Ho on July 31, 2018, 09:48:58 PM
All I can say is "Dear Wilson, get well, get well soon, we want you to get well"
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: Geowhizzer on July 31, 2018, 09:51:41 PM
What is wrong with you?  When a player returns to the active roster from the DL, heís been activated.

When a player joins the major league roster from the minors, thats referred to as a ďcall up.Ē

He doesn't have to be activated to be eligible for the postseason: 

Quote
(a) PLAYERS ELIGIBLE.

(1) Major League Roster Players. To be eligible to play for a Major League Club in a Wild Card Game, Division Series, League Championship Series, or the World Series, a player must

(A) have been on a Major League Active, Disabled, Bereavement / Family Medical Emergency, Paternity, Suspended or Military List of such Major League Club as of Midnight Eastern Time on August 31, or on such date be under control, but on optional assignment, or on assignment from another Major League organization and not yet reported...
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: Don Ho on July 31, 2018, 09:52:42 PM
shtein ass AB by Hernandez
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: ice grillin you on August 01, 2018, 08:07:43 AM
Obviously theyíre going to activate him before September 1st just in case theyíre still in a pennant race. 

this is what im referring to....makes absolutely zero sense

they arent "obviously" going to do anything....when he can play he will play whether its next week or september 18th...

september first is irrelevant when it comes to an injury....you have to be on the active roster by september first to be eligible for the postseason....he obviously is already on the active roster
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: MDS on August 01, 2018, 09:15:13 PM
yea havas is right in this...kyle schwarber tore his acl in the first game of the season 2 years ago. he came back in the world series. you just have to be on the 40 man, hurt or otherwise.

anyway fenway was fun. i was an idiot yelling 41-33 and having loud trolly conversations about tom bradys lack of ball security. all in all good time. sat 2nd row in front of the rf pole for game 1, up in lf for game 2.

great scene around the ballpark with tons of bars, everyone pregaming. real drawback of the bank set up is the only thing near it is xfinity which is a white trash hellhole. the park itself is a dump and charming at the same time. the rf seats we were in are real packed in there...no room to move around and a real tough fit for the bigger folks. the lf seats were newer so it was like being in a normal park.

saw a lot of phils fans there, more so for game 1 but that just mightve been our section. legit loud eagles and lets go phils chants going. twitter said there was a huge eagles chant on the main concourse after they won but i wasnt in that area.
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: ice grillin you on August 02, 2018, 07:18:24 AM
ugggh i think the area around fenway is a disgrace....i mean its better than the the stadium complex but thats a pretty low bar....its all douchey chain like bars and there arent even that many of them...the first time i was there we walked around the entire stadium and basically said "this is it?" and struggled to decide where to go...second and third times we stayed downtown and just cabbed to the stadium right before the game

Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: MDS on August 02, 2018, 10:51:44 AM
im a sucker for a baseball atmosphere...everyone hanging around the ballpark accomplishes first versus philly where you can come in for 10 seconds before the game and leave right after.

could the bars be better? sure. we went to one maybe a block or 2 away that was fine. im not sure its possible to have a truly good bar in that area.

basically the entire thing made me mad that the phillies play in a parking lot
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: ice grillin you on August 02, 2018, 11:07:00 AM
i havent been to all stadiums but a phillie tailgate is probably better than any bar scene in the majors save wrigley
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: Rome on August 02, 2018, 12:10:28 PM
White people problems. 
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: MDS on August 02, 2018, 02:48:09 PM
if the phillies make the playoffs as a 3 seed/wild card, game 3 of the nlds will be the same date as birds/vikings. if they are a 1/2 seed its a road game.

the only other potential conflict is game 5 of the world series, which is the same day as the birds london game

Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: ice grillin you on August 02, 2018, 09:48:03 PM
Here come the nats
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: MDS on August 02, 2018, 10:24:28 PM
here come the phils

walk
out
infield hit
walk
rbi 5-3 squibber
3 run bank hr

thats how the big boys rally
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: Rome on August 03, 2018, 07:41:59 PM
Iím not seeing how Scott Kingery isnít anything more than a AAAA infielder. 

Someone convince me Iím wrong.

Please?
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: AO1 on August 03, 2018, 08:48:22 PM
That was a hell of a play by Franco
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: MDS on August 03, 2018, 09:14:43 PM
aaron loloup
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: ice grillin you on August 03, 2018, 09:48:49 PM
Odubel easily should have easily caught that
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: MDS on August 03, 2018, 10:12:02 PM
we're not there yet but with the way odubel is going and how interesting a player quinn is....
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: AO1 on August 03, 2018, 10:12:55 PM
Odubel easily should have easily caught that

Heís the worst outfielder Iíve ever seen at judging balls in the air
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: Rome on August 04, 2018, 07:34:25 AM
I thought the Marlins yap team was bad in years past.  This crew is probably the worst of all time.  They literally donít stop talking.  The worst part is theyíre not actually talking about whatís going on during the game.

Look, I know TMacís high pitched screeching is unbearable, but at least he calls the play by play. 

These guys?  Nope.  Itís like the game isnít even happening.   

Anyway, great job by Vinnie Vaz out there.   And Francoís ass throw was insane.  Finish these bitch ass fishes off tonight and tomorrow. 
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: ice grillin you on August 04, 2018, 09:23:23 AM
is Tommy Hutton back doing games

heís farging awesome....especially when he does Phillie games cause all he talks about is Philadelphia
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: Rome on August 04, 2018, 10:24:15 AM
Paul Severino and Todd Hollandsworth. 

Theyíre new generation morons who donít understand that theyíre not farging entertainers.  No one cares about your pithy anecdotes.  Just announce the game as a pbp guy and as a color guy, offer occasional and pertinent insights.

Thatís it.  Thatís the list. 

Seriously.  I muted it after 10 minutes and put the Phils radio team on SiriusXM.  The Phils feed is blacked out on my tv package whenever they play these iceholes or the Rays. 
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: ice grillin you on August 04, 2018, 10:31:57 AM
they fired Hutton or does he do radio or something?
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: QB Eagles on August 04, 2018, 10:34:18 AM
They fired him a few years ago, but they do have him drop in from time to time.
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: ice grillin you on August 04, 2018, 07:49:21 PM
I might have a little mist in my eye
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: MDS on August 04, 2018, 08:00:39 PM
so nick williams hitting 3rd might be a thing
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: AO1 on August 04, 2018, 08:07:06 PM
Knapp hits a single

Schmidt: Thereís another guy whoís been hit the ball well this month

Silence

TMac: and that single ends an 0-11 for Knapp
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: MDS on August 04, 2018, 08:28:36 PM
schmidt clearly watches the phillies when he is there and literally no other time or point

always good to hear his insight
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: Don Ho on August 06, 2018, 04:55:35 AM
Knapp hits a single

Schmidt: Thereís another guy whoís been hit the ball well this month

Silence

TMac: and that single ends an 0-11 for Knapp

 :-D :-D  That's Schmidt
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on August 06, 2018, 03:34:16 PM
Go Phillies
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: ice grillin you on August 06, 2018, 05:08:22 PM
Go Phillies

since youíve been gone they changed their name to the fightin kaplers
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on August 06, 2018, 06:44:10 PM
shtein!

I need to buy new hats

Is the logo a ballsack and a bottle of coconut oil?
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: MDS on August 06, 2018, 10:29:45 PM
no its a brain and a 1 for being in 1st farging place
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: Don Ho on August 07, 2018, 01:19:36 AM
shtein, Sir Anthony has fallen hard here of late.  That was horrible tonight.  Arrieta throws a frickení gem and the kid gives it right back.  He has looked like ass lately.
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: Don Ho on August 07, 2018, 02:21:52 AM
farg, good thing none of you stayed up. 
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: ice grillin you on August 07, 2018, 07:23:35 AM
shtein, Sir Anthony has fallen hard here of late.  He has looked like ass lately.

he struck out the side in his last game
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: smeags on August 07, 2018, 07:55:59 AM
don was just doing a Schmidt impression.
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: Rome on August 07, 2018, 08:40:34 AM
He also gave up a home run in his last outing. 
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: ice grillin you on August 07, 2018, 08:55:08 AM
it was a beautiful slider on the outside corner that got lifted out by a beast of a man....it wasnt a case of searanthony having fallen off "hard" or looking like ass...just gotta tip your cap to bour there

now to be fair last night was a different story but he needs a few more outings like last night to make some sort of sweeping judgement that hes been ass lately when he pitched great one appearance ago had struck out 8 of the 16 previous batters he faced and gave up a single ER in his last five appearances
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: MDS on August 07, 2018, 09:04:52 AM
yea he gave up a run on sunday and blew up a little against the dodgers on july 23. previous to that his last ERs were the sunday nighter in washington. in june.

twitter was a cesspool as usual last night acting like the season was over, but the destruction of seranthony surprised me. its as if people arent aware that even good relievers give up run sometimes.

his control hasnt been as good as it was earlier in the season. maybe it has something to do with him never pitching above a ball before. i dont know.
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on August 07, 2018, 09:13:33 AM
I stayed up watching that. I didn't expect to be able to stay away after a long weekend of no sleep but there I was.

Sucks to see Arrieta's start wasted. Seranthony will be ok, I hope. He's not been on since the ASB.

And not scoring in the 8th was maddening.
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: smeags on August 07, 2018, 05:24:20 PM
I stayed up watching that. I didn't expect to be able to stay away after a long weekend of no sleep but there I was.

Sucks to see Arrieta's start wasted. Seranthony will be ok, I hope. He's not been on since the ASB.

And not scoring in the 8th was maddening.

so, 80 ?
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: Rome on August 07, 2018, 07:42:38 PM
I like Dominguez.  Heís got serious shtein. 

I was just saying that in the interest of fairness he did give up a dinger to go along with those 3 Kís. 
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: Don Ho on August 07, 2018, 08:37:21 PM
Rome face it, we're dammed to hell when we rip them and we're homers when we cheer for them. 

Let me rephrase my previous comment:

It was rather unfortunate last night when Seranthony gave up those three hits and two runs in the bottom of the ninth after a wonderful performance by Arrieta.  I am confident, despite some shaky innings the past week, Dominguez will regain his control.
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: ice grillin you on August 07, 2018, 09:57:38 PM
just a brutal look there by Odubel
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: MDS on August 07, 2018, 11:32:07 PM
their offense is just plain bad
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: ice grillin you on August 07, 2018, 11:41:31 PM
If pivetta can  ever find some consistency....man is he good when heís good...and when heís not heís really bad
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: MDS on August 07, 2018, 11:44:56 PM
any semblance of offense and they are on a 8 game streak

as it stands their chances of winning this game are like 3%
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: ice grillin you on August 07, 2018, 11:58:58 PM
that was very nice of Arizona
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: ice grillin you on August 08, 2018, 12:08:47 AM
Bases loaded no outs

o/u is one run
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: MDS on August 08, 2018, 12:09:09 AM
assdribble cabrera is a pos met but he is 1000x better than kingery

also good to see jake diekman is still jake diekman
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: ice grillin you on August 08, 2018, 12:10:20 AM
Bases loaded no outs

o/u is one run

OVER!!

and im better than lkingery
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: MDS on August 08, 2018, 12:16:09 AM
i know dom brown was hyped like mad but i cant remember a more deflating prospect performance

he was awesome in the minors....in spring training....got paid...every scout salivating...then he gets up and he sucks so bad they trade for a washed up 2B to replace him
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: ice grillin you on August 08, 2018, 12:23:29 AM
JP was a top 3 prospect in all of baseball two years ago
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: MDS on August 08, 2018, 08:56:32 AM
jp sucked in AAA and if you looked at his performance as a whole you knew it wasnt going to be anything special even if he hit his ceiling. so basically everyone was prepared for him to be worthless.

kingery was almost thought to be a sure thing

also they keep rebounding from these terrible losses with nice wins. this is 100% kap.
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on August 08, 2018, 09:37:06 AM
As soon as Kingery got that money I had a feeling that he'd suck

Hope Velasquez can keep up his good streak today
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: ice grillin you on August 08, 2018, 09:37:13 AM
no non pitcher is a sure thing in baseball especially scott kingery.....he had a total of less than 300 PA above double A...he was a spring training comet...one of a million....JP had something like a 1000 PA in AAA

now crawford wasnt even close to a lock either but he was seen to be a guarantee by a lot of heads since they all jerked off for three years over his plate discipline and how that skill all but guaranteed at least a good major league career.....

i think you are being a prisoner of the moment...also because kingery got that deal artificially makes him seem like he was a better prospect than he was

not saying he didnt or still dosnt have promise but hes not even close to being an all time disappointment unless you overrated the living shtein out of him

Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: MDS on August 08, 2018, 09:56:33 AM
considering the contract he got he def is....hes like one of 2 people to get PAID before even having an at bat

and at least dom brown had 1 month where he hit 1000 homers. kingery was out of his element from day 1.
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: ice grillin you on August 08, 2018, 10:02:18 AM
that doesnt make him a better prospect tho...it either makes the phillies really smart or really dumb
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: MDS on August 08, 2018, 10:04:46 AM
im talking about hype and expectations though

you expected kingery to at least be decent. jp in A or AA i was hype on, then over the next 2 years reality set in and you knew what he was. if kingery spent this season in AAA where he belonged, things wouldve cooled. but once he got the contract it changed expectations.

4 months and 750 pop ups later, here we are.
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: ice grillin you on August 08, 2018, 10:13:53 AM
honestly except for certain cases of filthy ass phenom pitchers or any red sox prospect i dont really expect anything from baseball prospects

they are the most unreliable things ever
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: ice grillin you on August 08, 2018, 04:50:02 PM
guess he was due for a clunker but old vince is back
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: MDS on August 08, 2018, 05:10:16 PM
that and arizona was due to hit...cant keep a good offense down for 3 games

monday was the killer. you werent going to sweep but you couldve had 2/3
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: ice grillin you on August 08, 2018, 07:00:21 PM
will Hoskins or kingery ever get a hit again?
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: AO1 on August 08, 2018, 09:26:06 PM
Hoskins yes heís a streaky hitter

Kingery no
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: Don Ho on August 09, 2018, 12:50:47 AM
will Hoskins or kingery ever get a hit again?

seriously, every time Kingery is at the plate I get up to pee or grab a snack knowing I won't miss much.
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: MDS on August 09, 2018, 09:42:16 AM
will Hoskins or kingery ever get a hit again?

hoskins sucks i know hes so bad
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: MDS on August 10, 2018, 02:16:14 PM
justin bour!
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: AO1 on August 10, 2018, 02:54:13 PM
justin bour!

No complaints, but where the hell are they gonna play him?
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: Rome on August 10, 2018, 03:58:38 PM
Shortstop!
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: MDS on August 10, 2018, 04:17:34 PM
it seems like hes generally going to be a pinch hitter who will then be flipped in the winter, most likely along with cesar/mike/jp for an additional piece. they have a doubleheader next week and 3 games in toronto, so im sure he will start at 1B here and there.

however, the phillies defense is so bad they might as well move santana to 3B or RF for a game or 2 and have the corners clogged with cement footed sloths, just for shteins and giggles
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: AO1 on August 10, 2018, 05:14:11 PM
it seems like hes generally going to be a pinch hitter who will then be flipped in the winter, most likely along with cesar/mike/jp for an additional piece.

He made it through waivers, meaning he has little trade value. I get having him as a platoon/pinch hitter but heís making $20 million a year and so is Santana.
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: ice grillin you on August 10, 2018, 05:27:34 PM
Bour makes like three and a half on a one year deal
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: AO1 on August 10, 2018, 05:50:01 PM
Bour makes like three and a half on a one year deal

Iím talking about going forward
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: ice grillin you on August 10, 2018, 07:03:14 PM
but heís making $20 million a year and so is Santana.

hes on a one year deal....he might not make 20 million for the rest of his career much less in any one year and none of it past this year will be with the phillies
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: AO1 on August 10, 2018, 08:01:47 PM
I meant to say heís not making $20 million dollars a year...sort of a double negative


Witch hunt
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: Rome on August 10, 2018, 08:20:28 PM
Fake signing. 
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: MDS on August 10, 2018, 09:56:25 PM
stick to misogyny
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: ice grillin you on August 10, 2018, 11:02:13 PM
trying to give this zesty offense the benefit of the doubt that this kid nix was a top prospect...so I looked it up and nope heís the padres 14th best prospect
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: ice grillin you on August 10, 2018, 11:29:22 PM
this is a travesty
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: MDS on August 10, 2018, 11:35:56 PM
you had to figure they were going to crash and crash hard and this might just be it

wonder if theyll play bour in CF because odubel is a joke
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: ice grillin you on August 11, 2018, 12:05:23 AM
Rhys Hoskins is complete garbage
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: MDS on August 11, 2018, 12:06:20 AM
should they play kingery instead
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: ice grillin you on August 11, 2018, 12:09:28 AM
pretty much anyone but kingery would be a better option
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: MDS on August 11, 2018, 12:13:32 AM
herrera-hoskins for ops by month
jun 743-1.088
jul 739- 921
aug 469-693

hoskins sucks tho amiright
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: ice grillin you on August 11, 2018, 12:29:28 AM
neither are particularly good but Rhys is a special kind of bad
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: MDS on August 11, 2018, 12:34:09 AM
out of all the dumb mountains youve died on this is by far the 8th or 9th dumbest
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: ice grillin you on August 11, 2018, 12:42:18 AM
let me know when he gets another hit
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: ice grillin you on August 11, 2018, 08:50:31 PM
Rhys now apparently canít it his forward anymore

weak pop to the catcher for a sweet 0-21 now
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: ice grillin you on August 11, 2018, 08:51:36 PM
nick with a beauty
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: ice grillin you on August 11, 2018, 09:42:12 PM
Milwaukee with three in the 8th to go 4-2 on the Braves
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: ice grillin you on August 11, 2018, 09:43:31 PM
0-22 on a weak grounder
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: ice grillin you on August 11, 2018, 10:28:37 PM
1-23!!!
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: MDS on August 11, 2018, 11:17:20 PM
you are worse than a trump supporter
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: ice grillin you on August 11, 2018, 11:25:08 PM
sorry your hero isnít that good

also Vic vic is the best reliever on the team who you hated on
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: MDS on August 11, 2018, 11:25:48 PM
i dont give a farg ill fight every stillupfront here
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: MDS on August 11, 2018, 11:55:52 PM
theres your win tyou pollack farg

go donate to the splc farging liberal farg
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: ice grillin you on August 12, 2018, 12:15:40 AM
someone had two beers tonight
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: Rome on August 12, 2018, 06:52:23 AM
Theyíre not great but theyíre 22 games better than they were last year after 116 games. 

Oh and theyíre in first place.   I guess we can either be happy about that or fixate on whatís wrong with them. 
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: MDS on August 12, 2018, 11:29:12 AM
you wouldnt fit in very well on phillies twitter
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: ice grillin you on August 12, 2018, 05:32:40 PM
Theyíre not great

but are they good
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: MDS on August 12, 2018, 05:54:59 PM
carlos santana is killing them
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: Geowhizzer on August 12, 2018, 05:56:34 PM
It's a clown show in San Diego today.  They need to all ride home in a Volkswagon buggy as befitting their play.
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on August 13, 2018, 12:09:11 AM
Embarrassing

No other way to put it
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: Don Ho on August 14, 2018, 05:00:39 AM
Well it was fun while it lasted.  No bats, mindless defense, awful base running, weak ass bullpen and they were in first place with 36 games left.  Not bad for this collection of scrubs.
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: ice grillin you on August 14, 2018, 07:20:48 AM
cheer up...at least they have an easy schedule coming up where the offense can find its footing....

red sox - red sox - degrom - syndergarrd - scherzer - scherzer next two weeks
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: MDS on August 14, 2018, 09:43:36 AM
how can the offense find its footing when they never had it to begin with

they are what they are...it aint pretty but its been good enough. eventually you do meet reality.
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: AO1 on August 14, 2018, 08:12:42 PM
Pivettaís pitching a good game, but Porcello is straight dealing. Perfect game alert.
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: Geowhizzer on August 14, 2018, 08:50:43 PM
The Hoskins HR was a CBP special.  He nearly hit it one-handed.
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: Don Ho on August 14, 2018, 09:10:10 PM
 :-D :-D Tommy Hunter
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: MDS on August 14, 2018, 11:33:45 PM
carlos santana ripping some dingers tonight

and check out the wheels on asdrubel
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: ice grillin you on August 15, 2018, 07:57:38 AM
whats extra bad about this is that the nats and braves have acuna and soto who look like two future mvp candidates....they are unreal....the phillies have nick williams
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on August 15, 2018, 09:07:44 AM
It is tough to watch them on offense. Good lord
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: MDS on August 15, 2018, 09:15:07 AM
the 2 players utterly destroying them are santana and herrera

herrera has been a net negative since may. just absolutely brutal. santana is a 1 win player at a core offensive position. yea he walks a lot but 20 homer power from your 1B is rudimentary. hes a low 200s hitter. just not enough offense out of that position.

also has anyone mentioned how fat tommy hunter is
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on August 15, 2018, 10:12:50 AM
Isn't Santana one of the Sabr-nerds favorite players? They eschew his BA for other horsehit stats
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: Rome on August 15, 2018, 10:20:28 AM
Good thing they passed on JD Martinez.  You know, because moniezzz in 2021.
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: MDS on August 15, 2018, 10:28:30 AM
Isn't Santana one of the Sabr-nerds favorite players? They eschew his BA for other horsehit stats

his obp is good and his walk rate relative to his k rate is incredible. im more looking at this from the perspective that the other nl contenders have mashers at 1B: freeman, aguilar, carpenter, bellinger, goldy, desmond, rizzo. some better than others. santana lags behind all of them.

Good thing they passed on JD Martinez.  You know, because moniezzz in 2021.

i was thinking about this yesterday. he signed for 5/110 which means the phillies wouldve had to go higher to get him. yes this season they would be at least 5 wins better if they had him. but you have to take the long view with this. martinez is over 30, a zesty defender and retaining financial flexibility is essential. plus, nobody expected them to be this competitive now.

if they had done this contract it would be certainly beneficial NOW, but in 3 years it would not be. boston knew they were a contender so it made sense for them to go for it and take the risk of eating the last few years. the phillies cant even stash him at DH. it really just didnt make a whole lot of sense for them.

if you could do it all over again you dont sign santana, keep hoskins at 1B and invest in a shorter deal with a corner OF like carlos gonzalez.
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: smeags on August 15, 2018, 10:29:22 AM
im just happy to hear that pivetta has a relaxed posture going into last night's game.
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: Rome on August 15, 2018, 07:36:07 PM
They activated Ramos. 
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: Don Ho on August 15, 2018, 09:23:55 PM
Jesus Christ!

HE IS OUT!!
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: Don Ho on August 15, 2018, 09:31:45 PM
Ramos = Grit

J Bradley Jr. never ceases to amaze me.  Guys got a howitzer for an arm.
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: Don Ho on August 15, 2018, 10:08:35 PM
Wilson Ramos, the Anti-Herrera
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: Don Ho on August 15, 2018, 10:20:47 PM
Bour just JFK'd Bogaerts right in the back.  He is going to fit right in with the keystone cops
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: Rome on August 16, 2018, 08:00:42 AM
Oh hey look... a major league hitter.  Hi there.  👋
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on August 16, 2018, 06:48:35 PM
What

The

Motherfarging

farg

Is

This

shtein
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: Geowhizzer on August 16, 2018, 07:30:38 PM
Glad I missed that fiasco.  Ranger got demolished.

And how in the hell did Mark Leiterfluid give up SEVEN unearned runs?
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: MDS on August 16, 2018, 07:32:38 PM
kind of amazing how they could go from a tremendous win against boston to this travesty
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: Rome on August 16, 2018, 09:36:48 PM
Believing in progress does not mean believing that any progress has yet been made.

-Kafka
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: MDS on August 16, 2018, 10:19:56 PM
they had the worst loss in the history of the franchise and are still going to pick up a half game on atlanta

yea degrom and syndergaard next 2 nights but just remember baseball is stupid and makes no sense
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: QB Eagles on August 16, 2018, 10:38:33 PM
so is gabe purposely throwing the first games of these doubleheaders or what, seems like he always has the stronger pitcher going in the nightcap
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: MDS on August 16, 2018, 10:44:38 PM
they i guess matched up stronger pitcher for stronger pitcher

truth be told suarez wasnt that bad. wouldve had 5/6 salvagable innings if the defense wasnt so putrid 
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: Don Ho on August 17, 2018, 09:33:45 PM
Glad I missed that fiasco.  Ranger got demolished.

And how in the hell did Mark Leiterfluid give up SEVEN unearned runs?

Adios Lighterfluid
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: Don Ho on August 17, 2018, 09:34:28 PM
Damn Nola was bringing it tonight.  Good shtein.
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: ice grillin you on August 19, 2018, 07:38:42 PM
two balls up the middle this inning and this little bitch pivetta ran away from both
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: MDS on August 19, 2018, 08:18:28 PM
you knew they were losing after that inning but you really knew they were losing when hoskins hr just goes foul

pivetta dominates the sox then gets hit hard by the minor league mets. makes sense.
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: Geowhizzer on August 19, 2018, 08:26:49 PM
(https://i.gifer.com/10F3.gif)
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on August 19, 2018, 08:57:43 PM
Slop balling POS Vargas is working these fargs over

Figures
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: MDS on August 19, 2018, 09:26:51 PM
carlos santana had 3 homers since june 29

NOW HE HAS 4 YOU HATERS
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: ice grillin you on August 21, 2018, 04:40:28 PM
Since Memorial Day (May 28):

Odubel Herrera ó .225 BA, .268 OBP

Scott Kingery ó .229 BA, .263 OBP

Their OBPs rank 297th and 301st out of 326 players during that span.
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: Geowhizzer on August 21, 2018, 08:12:45 PM
We all knew the fall would come, but man is this offense hard to watch.
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: MDS on August 21, 2018, 11:20:42 PM
i figured out that i like hurting myself which is why i watch the phillies
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: ice grillin you on August 22, 2018, 07:36:46 AM
not even mad cause this was so predictable.....amazing thing is that it took this long....they will end up finishing behind the nats if strasburg can just be decent and really probably anyway
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: MDS on August 22, 2018, 09:17:28 AM
nats were the lock of the year last night

just surprising it happened via the normally reliable victor arano serving up bombs to some minor leaguer and wilmer dilfo. the LOB fest in the 7th/8th made so much more sense
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: smeags on August 22, 2018, 12:23:17 PM
a lot of good will come from this fall.

middleton will be even more motivated to get talent here.
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: Rome on August 22, 2018, 02:57:12 PM
If he starts by ridding himself of Klentak and Kapler, and replaces them with real baseball men, that would be a good start. 
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: MDS on August 22, 2018, 05:12:50 PM
real baseball men

#MAGA
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: Rome on August 22, 2018, 07:04:45 PM
Klentak is a piece of shtein and Kapler should be selling Amway. 

Get them the both outta my farging sight.   
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: AO1 on August 22, 2018, 07:20:52 PM
Welcome back Stephen
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: Geowhizzer on August 22, 2018, 07:21:26 PM
So they get twisted into knots by AAAA pitchers and light up Strasburg in the first inning.


Go figure.
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: ice grillin you on August 22, 2018, 08:05:32 PM
I wanna punch the guy with the maga hat so bad
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: AO1 on August 22, 2018, 10:51:53 PM
Nice ending
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: QB Eagles on August 22, 2018, 10:53:24 PM
The Phillies are back, baby!
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: MDS on August 22, 2018, 11:02:37 PM
could smell that one coming

well they didnt quite make it to labor day but 4+ months of competitive baseball was a nice little treat
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: Don Ho on August 23, 2018, 04:16:18 AM
yes, it's over but the fact this circus act is 3 games out in late August is unbelievable.  Echoing IGY, this was inevitable and I too thought they'd crash and burn in early July so hey, we got some free baseball. 

Rome, Kaplar is more a Herb A Life sales leader.  Nice guy, fit, means well, you want to like him but at the end of his pitch you're like "get out of here"
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: ice grillin you on August 23, 2018, 04:58:34 AM
even when they were ďgoodĒ it was pretty awful...they were never a fun or enjoyable team
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: phattymatty on August 23, 2018, 03:07:23 PM
i'm not a baseball pro like you guys but nola seems good.
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: AO1 on August 23, 2018, 05:28:59 PM
i'm not a baseball pro like you guys but nola seems good.

He's alright but he's no Tommy Hanson
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: MDS on August 23, 2018, 08:11:44 PM
nola is still behind degrom but he just passed scherzer for the cy
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: Geowhizzer on August 25, 2018, 07:14:30 PM
They're going down faster than Trump lawyers now.
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: Don Ho on August 25, 2018, 07:21:45 PM
La de de da

Go Bows!
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: MDS on August 25, 2018, 09:00:50 PM
week and a half to eagles

less than a month to sixers camp

go away phillies
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: AO1 on August 27, 2018, 04:10:57 PM
Joey Bats
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: Rome on August 27, 2018, 05:11:47 PM
Bat flipping has been. 
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: phattymatty on August 27, 2018, 06:40:16 PM
whenever i see his face all i can think of is it getting crushed by roughneck.

Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: ice grillin you on August 27, 2018, 08:12:57 PM
only the Phillies could draw 30 pitches in an inning and not score

also this crowd is an embarrassment
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: ice grillin you on August 27, 2018, 08:31:16 PM
Iím not discounting he will improve but if he doesnít Hoskins cannot be their LF when and if they become WS contenders...he is a joke there
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: MDS on August 27, 2018, 09:24:54 PM
the phillies internal metrics were telling them hoskins was better in lf than 1b....so either those are OFF or he is the biggest travesty in the history of fielders
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: Geowhizzer on August 27, 2018, 10:30:43 PM
The math is starting to blow up in the nerd's faces.
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: ice grillin you on August 28, 2018, 06:57:09 AM
im not sure the math was ever working...more like in the first half they had some timely hitting to go along with their pitching....that is long gone....this sabremetrics crap never worked...the shifts have been dreadful for the most part and carlos santana sucks
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: MDS on August 28, 2018, 09:00:20 AM
this sabremetrics crap never worked

yes the phillies are the first team in mlb history is embrace advanced metrics. do you idiots realize everyone else uses this stuff? the astros, the red sox, the cubs, the dodgers. everyone. big difference is those teams have a farg ton more talent than the phillies have.

you are welcome to not like it but you cant say it doesnt work. it does work. but you know what works better? having good players.

but yes carlos santana is a fat waste of space, that one is true
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: phattymatty on August 28, 2018, 02:29:38 PM
so they got smashface.

hope he doesn't get roughned up again amirite?

Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: Rome on August 28, 2018, 03:49:01 PM
Iím not discounting he will improve but if he doesnít Hoskins cannot be their LF when and if they become WS contenders...he is a joke there

So were Pat Burrell & Greg Luzinski.  Thatís why theyíre in left field.   But I agree with you he should be at 1st and fatty fat Santana should be on a rocket headed for Pluto. 
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: Geowhizzer on August 28, 2018, 10:04:59 PM
Wasted opportunities offensively?  Check.
zesty defense?  Check.
Bullpen implosion?  Check.

And the descent into the abyss continues...
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: Don Ho on August 28, 2018, 10:07:11 PM
^^^^Above is the microcosm that is your Philadelphia Phillies.
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: ice grillin you on August 28, 2018, 10:08:35 PM
I was open minded about Gabe kapler but his handling of the bullpen is atrocious
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: Don Ho on August 28, 2018, 10:08:46 PM
I did like the nice ovation Bautista got followed by the three pitch K
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: MDS on August 28, 2018, 10:09:16 PM
so they signed santana and moved hoskins to LF because hes such a better defensive 1B, yet....

i cant blame kap for the blown lead. when you dont have any reliable relievers every decision you make is going to be wrong

the real issue was pulling hoskins for quinn which is just asinine with a zesty pen and 3-4-5 up for the nats
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: Don Ho on August 28, 2018, 10:13:28 PM
I was open minded about Gabe kapler but his handling of the bullpen is atrocious

Agreed.  Painful.
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: Don Ho on August 28, 2018, 10:19:23 PM
oh my God.  The good old college try.
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: Don Ho on August 28, 2018, 10:22:03 PM
Hector may be the best thing they have coming out of the pen.
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: Geowhizzer on August 28, 2018, 10:36:32 PM
 :-D :boom
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: MDS on August 28, 2018, 10:37:44 PM
how could you even be mad at this

this shtein is hysterical
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: Don Ho on August 28, 2018, 10:40:23 PM
Seriously, this is pretty damn funny to watch.
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: AO1 on August 28, 2018, 10:59:37 PM
What a waste of a Nola gem
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: ice grillin you on August 29, 2018, 08:00:34 AM
i cant blame kap for the blown lead. when you dont have any reliable relievers every decision you make is going to be wrong

leaving hunter in for a second inning to face bryce was easily the worst thing he did all game and was just inexcusable
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: MDS on August 29, 2018, 09:21:41 AM
neshak isnt great against lhp....avilan is a loogy...i mean what difference does it make? when you have nothing reliable in the bullpen no decision is going to work out. tommy hunter is fat and zesty but its not like the alternatives there were so much better.

really the biggest thing for them going forward is they need to get more athletic. ramos and cabrera were desperate deadline moves for offense but even beyond them are a fat, slothy team. i dont know what specific fixes you can make beyond sending santana back to the AL but they need more roman quinn level athletes.
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: Geowhizzer on August 29, 2018, 11:05:51 AM
Maybe teach their hitters to not swing out of their helmets on every pitch.  Cesar Hernandez should not have 125 strikeouts.

And their defense is... well, offensive.
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on August 29, 2018, 11:07:29 AM
Fading....goodnight, playoffs.

Can't hit and the defense is atrocious.

Tommy Hunter needs to be fired into the sun.

Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: Rome on August 29, 2018, 12:25:20 PM
I figured 83 wins at the start of the season.  Iím not surprised by this but I am disappointed that theyíre regressing to the mean. 

Just can Kapler and the season wonít be a total loss. 
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: MDS on August 29, 2018, 02:24:28 PM
the goat matt gelb did a chat today and said a few times hed be shocked if they didnt bring santana back

i mean im not surprised but if theyre serious about winning you cant have hoskins in LF...he just cant play there
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: MDS on August 29, 2018, 10:12:46 PM
kapler is drunk right now with his pen management
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: Don Ho on August 31, 2018, 09:17:22 PM
Jesus farg!  Hoskins is atrocious in the outfield.  Helen Keller could read fly balls better than this guy.
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: Don Ho on August 31, 2018, 09:19:04 PM
kapler is drunk right now with his pen management

The color guy with Costas on MLB Network called out Kapler on his handling of the bullpen this season. 
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: Rome on August 31, 2018, 10:40:23 PM
ASSDRIBBLE
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: MDS on August 31, 2018, 11:40:35 PM
nothing would be more 2018 phillies than to sweep the cubs, pull even with the braves, then go 1-5 against the marlins/mets
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: Rome on September 01, 2018, 12:27:37 AM
It is amazing how awful this fargin team is in most respects.  Yet somehow they keep winning occasionally.  Talk about perplexing.
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: MDS on September 01, 2018, 11:38:13 AM
im not sure if im going to go but i just got a ticket for tonight for $5.50

people love the phillies
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: Rome on September 01, 2018, 11:49:10 AM
Philly fans can spot a fraud when we see one.
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: Geowhizzer on September 02, 2018, 02:12:09 PM
Where would this team be without Aaron Nola?
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: Geowhizzer on September 02, 2018, 03:37:25 PM
Where would this team be without Aaron Nola?

Way to let me down, jerk!
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: ice grillin you on September 02, 2018, 06:30:26 PM
Nola choked like a dog today
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: MDS on September 02, 2018, 08:54:28 PM
his stuff was filthy 3 pitches just happened to be hit for homers

i wouldnt go full trump here
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: ice grillin you on September 02, 2018, 09:10:56 PM
so he choked?
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: MDS on September 02, 2018, 09:13:58 PM
he threw 3 pitches that happened to be hit for homers....his offense put 100 people on base and exactly 0 of them scored

even if nola throws a shutout they dont win. i wouldnt go blame him.
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: ice grillin you on September 03, 2018, 01:07:16 PM
so he was awesome besides the million homers he gave up

got it
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: MDS on September 03, 2018, 05:21:01 PM
you know who isnt awesome

the phillies
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: Geowhizzer on September 03, 2018, 05:53:23 PM
Nola lost for the fourth time this year.  It's hard, but I'll try to forgive him.
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: Don Ho on September 03, 2018, 06:54:16 PM
he threw 3 pitches that happened to be hit for homers....his offense put 100 people on base and exactly 0 of them scored

even if nola throws a shutout they dont win. i wouldnt go blame him.

Phillies 2018 Highlight Video
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on September 04, 2018, 09:45:45 AM
They better get some goddamn bats this offseason.

And Kapler and his horseshtein "i like us better now than when we were in first place" schtick is old
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: AO1 on September 04, 2018, 09:53:59 AM
They better get some goddamn bats this offseason.

And Kapler and his horseshtein "i like us better now than when we were in first place" schtick is old

If you couldn't tell already Kapler is Captain positive. I give the guy credit for keeping them in contention all year. Because of the schedule and pitching matches most of us saw them falling off a cliff.
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: ice grillin you on September 04, 2018, 11:15:58 AM
choke is your single season home run king.....


https://www.sbnation.com/mlb/2018/9/4/17768666/home-run-record-mark-mcgwire-sammy-sosa-barry-bonds-ryan-howard
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on September 05, 2018, 09:07:55 AM
https://www.theplayerstribune.com/en-us/articles/ryan-howard-philadelphia-phillies

CHOKE!

That was a good read.
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: MDS on September 05, 2018, 09:47:09 AM
where will things be after sunday? 3 back.

braves - 1 red sox, 4 @dbacks
phillies - 1 marlins (rookie), 3 mets (matz, synder, degrom)

i say they are still 3 back.
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: ice grillin you on September 05, 2018, 09:58:22 AM
5 back....but the real answer is who cares

Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: Geowhizzer on September 05, 2018, 12:35:06 PM
5 back....but the real answer is who cares

In a rare occurrence... I fully agree with Igy.  This is over.
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: Rome on September 05, 2018, 03:03:40 PM
I think if the Eagles werenít as good as they are, thereíd be a lot more Phils heat. 
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: MDS on September 05, 2018, 04:15:58 PM
5 back....but the real answer is who cares

the braves suck
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: ice grillin you on September 05, 2018, 04:56:02 PM
I think if the Eagles werenít as good as they are, thereíd be a lot more Phils heat.

incorrect

the Phillies are a shtein show to watch

tonight might be the worst defensive lineup Iíve ever seen fielded

5 back....but the real answer is who cares

the braves suck

my god then what are the Phillies?
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: Geowhizzer on September 05, 2018, 05:45:34 PM
Is Santana really playing third?  With Assdribble at short?  What a clusterfarg.

Kapler gotta Kapler.
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on September 05, 2018, 06:17:40 PM
I wonder what Santanaís moneyball nerd stats are for defensive runs saved and whatever other stupid stats are for him at 3B
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: MDS on September 05, 2018, 07:38:45 PM
yea its not about that

with franco out they are playing an optimal offensive lineup with a high k/flyball pitcher on the mound. the hope is avoid disaster on defense and score some runs, then change for defense in the 6th or 7th. im sure it will work.

they know what santana is at 3B....im sort of impressed and honored they put together the worst left side defense in baseball history. 3 cement foot sloths all out of position.
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: Geowhizzer on September 05, 2018, 08:55:36 PM
That offense is working wonders tonight!
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: MDS on September 05, 2018, 09:09:13 PM
the phillies throw defense out the window to start an offensive lineup and they cant get a runner to 2nd

throw this team in a lava pit
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on September 05, 2018, 09:15:02 PM
Iím flipping over between the Eagles shows on NFLN

Painful

Score some farging runs for fargs sake
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: Don Ho on September 05, 2018, 09:19:03 PM
Iím flipping over between the Eagles shows on NFLN

Painful

Score some farging runs for fargs sake

Same thing.  This three ring circus playing in front of 350 people is nothing "special" to watch.  Score some runs you clowns.
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: MDS on September 05, 2018, 09:26:51 PM
lol roman quinn getting doubled off 1st, followed by bats' double

they are so predictable
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: Don Ho on September 05, 2018, 09:28:34 PM
Running out of terms for stupid, used them all to describe this team's baseball IQ this season.
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: Don Ho on September 05, 2018, 09:30:11 PM
Of course the next two get on base after Quinn's boner.
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: Geowhizzer on September 05, 2018, 09:47:22 PM
They're relying on Florimon...  :-D
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: MDS on September 05, 2018, 09:57:53 PM
the real loser is me, for watching this
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: Don Ho on September 05, 2018, 09:58:02 PM
5 back....but the real answer is who cares

This
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: Geowhizzer on September 05, 2018, 10:24:01 PM
This team...
(http://www.concretefield.info/forum/Smileys/classic/laugh.gif)
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: Rome on September 05, 2018, 10:26:00 PM
Their hitting is a total fargin embarrassment.   Made me sick to watch that tonite.   Yuck. 
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on September 05, 2018, 10:48:28 PM
Steckenrider was grooving four seamers and neither Florimon or Quinn could hit it

Embarassing
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: MDS on September 06, 2018, 10:14:14 AM
unironically j angry about pedro florimon and roman quinn

I MISS HIM
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: ice grillin you on September 10, 2018, 03:44:36 PM
scott kingery against rhp in the second half of the season .175/.221/.270

thats not a misprint
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: smeags on September 10, 2018, 04:14:40 PM
go birds !
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: ice grillin you on September 10, 2018, 04:22:53 PM
and still kap wont play jp

amazing
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: MDS on September 10, 2018, 05:16:49 PM
jp sucks...there is zero point in playing him or even him being on the roster
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on September 10, 2018, 10:46:30 PM
Kap heading up the grounds crew too?
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: Don Ho on September 11, 2018, 06:01:49 PM
Atta boy Kap!  Might as well go out like you came in, double header today and you're about to use up most of the bullpen in game 1. 
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: Geowhizzer on September 11, 2018, 07:00:30 PM
Got in the car, turned on the MLB app, checked the score, and got out of the MLB app and played music.

That's a win... at least for me.
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: ice grillin you on September 11, 2018, 07:04:35 PM
Atta boy Kap!  Might as well go out like you came in, double header today and you're about to use up most of the bullpen in game 1.

they have 20 pitchers on the active roster
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: Rome on September 11, 2018, 07:18:25 PM
And 18 of them are pigshtein. 
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: Geowhizzer on September 11, 2018, 09:03:50 PM
And 18 of them are pigshtein.

Funny, I had nearly this exact thought go through my head.  May only be 15-16, but the vast majority have not been good lately.
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: Geowhizzer on September 11, 2018, 10:04:40 PM
Wait... Gabe can get upset?
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: Geowhizzer on September 11, 2018, 10:41:54 PM
Is there any doubt Harper hits a grand slam here?

EDIT:  Wow, he didn't.  But this team...  :-D
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: Geowhizzer on September 11, 2018, 11:20:14 PM
(https://thumbs.gfycat.com/AnimatedAnimatedAtlanticblackgoby-max-1mb.gif)
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: MDS on September 11, 2018, 11:21:17 PM
the saddest thing in the world is tmac updating people on the braves score
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: Don Ho on September 11, 2018, 11:36:12 PM
Atta boy Kap!  Might as well go out like you came in, double header today and you're about to use up most of the bullpen in game 1.

they have 20 pitchers on the active roster

Yea, and 17 of them suck
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: MDS on September 11, 2018, 11:37:11 PM
And 18 of them are pigshtein.

Yea, and 17 of them suck

im interested to know which one romey thinks sucks that don doesnt
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: Don Ho on September 11, 2018, 11:41:12 PM
This debate could go on for hours.  Sad thing is Neris might make the good list itís that bad.
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: Don Ho on September 11, 2018, 11:44:19 PM
Dear Fighting Fans,

Braves 3
Giants 0
Bottom 6

Love Always,

T Mac

He can stop after tonight.
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: QB Eagles on September 12, 2018, 12:36:37 AM
He might as well toss out the Padres-Mariners score too, it's equally relevant to the Phils.
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: ice grillin you on September 12, 2018, 06:51:09 AM
Atta boy Kap!  Might as well go out like you came in, double header today and you're about to use up most of the bullpen in game 1.

they have 20 pitchers on the active roster

Yea, and 17 of them suck

you werenít talking about if they were good or not you were ripping Gabe for using too many in the first game of a double header as if he needed to save some for g2
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: Rome on September 12, 2018, 12:05:48 PM
Nola & Neshek are it.  The rest, including fat Jake Millwood, can suck a fat dick. 
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: Rome on September 12, 2018, 12:28:09 PM
Iím done until Klentak and Kapler are gone.  Iíll watch occasionally but following them is just a waste of my time. 
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: ice grillin you on September 12, 2018, 12:31:06 PM
settle down
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: MDS on September 12, 2018, 01:05:05 PM
romey's drama queen act is one of my favorite things
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: Rome on September 12, 2018, 01:24:38 PM
Why am I a drama queen for refusing to watch this bullshtein?  My life isnít as empty as yours, so obviously watching them lose in new and interesting ways isnít necessary for me. 

But hey, keep watching if you want. 
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: MDS on September 12, 2018, 02:50:51 PM
because you sound like a hysterical woman....i love it dont get me wrong

i havent watched them really at all the past week or so. its a tough product right now. ill be there next year, though. with or without kap and klen
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: ice grillin you on September 12, 2018, 02:59:09 PM
another year older santana and arrieta should be fun
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: MDS on September 12, 2018, 04:19:39 PM
nevermind the contract, as mediocre as arrieta will be - he's still one of the 5 best SP they will have. at least to start the year. by midseason one of the kids could be pushing.

santana is a carcass who is forcing that oaf hoskins to play out of position. if hes still here there are issues.
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: Geowhizzer on September 14, 2018, 08:52:31 PM
Too little too late time.
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: Rome on September 15, 2018, 05:52:51 AM
I canít wait until Machado, Brycie and the rest look at the Phillies and say, ďno amount of moneyĒ in reply to Cancermanís ridiculous contract offers. 

Also - Kaplerís ďa chip and a chairĒ quote is so laughable, it alone should get him fired. 
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: MDS on September 15, 2018, 09:43:12 AM
your victim complex is staggering
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: Rome on September 15, 2018, 10:33:04 AM
Care to take a moment away from obsessing about me to talk about the Phillies?

Freak. 
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: MDS on September 16, 2018, 09:58:55 AM
youre more interesting than the phillies
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: Geowhizzer on September 16, 2018, 02:42:16 PM
Currently Florida 2, Philadelphia 0
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: QB Eagles on September 16, 2018, 04:48:41 PM
Currently Florida 2, Philadelphia 0

The Isles beat the Flyers in preseason hockey too. Future Floridians.
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: Geowhizzer on September 16, 2018, 05:19:20 PM
Said a few unkind words to Hoskins during that last at-bat.  Should have blasted that strike two pitch.
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on September 19, 2018, 09:58:46 AM
5.5 back...7 left with ATL

LETS DO THIS
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: MDS on September 19, 2018, 10:22:34 AM
oh no
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: Rome on September 19, 2018, 12:55:47 PM
5.5 back...7 left with ATL

LETS DO THIS

Ha.  Awesome.
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: ice grillin you on September 19, 2018, 05:06:33 PM
best move theyve made in about two years....

Quote
All Phillies Sunday home games next season will begin at 1:05 p.m. instead of 1:35.
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: MDS on September 20, 2018, 07:51:48 PM
so if they go 6-1 against atlanta....
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: Don Ho on September 20, 2018, 07:53:27 PM
so when Hell freezes over.........
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: Don Ho on September 20, 2018, 07:55:46 PM
When does this franchise score a Acuna Jr.?
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: Don Ho on September 20, 2018, 08:01:08 PM
Todd said it best "Santana is a carcass".  Why is he playing at SS?
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: Don Ho on September 20, 2018, 08:02:34 PM
Wait, he's playing third.  Sorry.  He still sucks.
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: Don Ho on September 20, 2018, 08:07:06 PM
wow! Luzinski's wife may be able to fill in for Jason Peters.  She looks like she'd kick your ass.
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: MDS on September 20, 2018, 09:55:13 PM
cant wait to find out which bullpen arm blows the season
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: Geowhizzer on September 20, 2018, 10:01:38 PM
cant wait to find out which bullpen arm blows the season

My guess...

(http://a.espncdn.com/combiner/i?img=/i/headshots/mlb/players/full/29198.png&w=350&h=254)
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: MDS on September 20, 2018, 10:14:09 PM
tommy hunter was -450 to be the guy

the good thing is they didnt drag this out any further than it needed...go enjoy your weekend
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on September 20, 2018, 11:01:21 PM
Stay of execution denied

Tommy Hunter is a bum
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: ice grillin you on September 21, 2018, 07:46:46 AM
cant wait to find out which bullpen arm blows the season

ummm the season was over a least two weeks ago
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: MDS on September 21, 2018, 10:59:35 AM
technically it was over in march, they just kept the charade going for longer than anticipated
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: MDS on September 22, 2018, 08:08:49 PM
Quote
They owned the second-best record in the National League on Aug. 5 and lost 28 of their next 43 games

i think he we have a runner up to 1964 for the franchies biggest collapses. hooray!
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: QB Eagles on September 22, 2018, 10:40:07 PM
I expected them to be worse but I also expected them to be more interesting.

The good news I don't think anyone outside of extreme homers got caught up in too much hype. It wasn't a secret that the record was kinda fraudulent.
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: Geowhizzer on September 22, 2018, 10:49:30 PM
Yeah, it was more of a regression to the norm than a true collapse.  This team just isn't that good.
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: Don Ho on September 23, 2018, 06:32:30 PM
^^ :yay^^

Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: ice grillin you on September 25, 2018, 07:51:44 AM
i think it can be both....they were never that good but having the second best record in the league on august 5th to .500 now is the definition of a collapse

Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: Don Ho on September 25, 2018, 06:11:49 PM
Excruciating part was the fact it was a total collapse from Kaplar all the way to the last man in the bullpen.

No hitting, terrible base running IQ, sloppy defense, starting pitching digressed, bullpen was a dumpster fire, Go Team Go!
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: Geowhizzer on September 25, 2018, 09:58:28 PM
They may not win another game this season.
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: QB Eagles on September 26, 2018, 12:18:52 AM
Summary of the Phillies season:

http://www.espn.com/video/clip?id=24798393
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: Don Ho on September 26, 2018, 05:49:52 AM
HA!  So true.  Speaking of dumpster fires, ODH.
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: QB Eagles on September 26, 2018, 11:36:25 PM
This team couldn't beat their own dicks right now.
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: Rome on September 27, 2018, 05:04:34 AM
Klentak is all in with Kapler and evidently cancerman is all in with Klentak despite all the fargups.   Sad.
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on September 27, 2018, 07:14:00 PM
Quitters and bums
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: MDS on September 27, 2018, 08:03:24 PM
im mr. rational but someone gotta get got for this
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: Geowhizzer on September 27, 2018, 10:00:01 PM
They may not win another game this season.
.
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on September 29, 2018, 01:45:28 AM
im mr. rational but someone gotta get got for this

Kapler can go tan his nuts somewhere else
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: Don Ho on September 29, 2018, 04:53:50 AM
They may not win another game this season.
.

Sad thing is i donít think you were trying to be funny when you originally posted this.

Weíve seem some bad shtein in our days but these two months are right up there. 

Quit team, Quit!
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: Geowhizzer on September 30, 2018, 09:26:15 AM
Guess I was wrong... forgot the Nola factor.  Today is a certain loss to wrap up this uncertain season.
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: AO1 on September 30, 2018, 08:21:37 PM
80

What do I win?
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: Geowhizzer on September 30, 2018, 09:37:52 PM
80

What do I win?

The chance to watch as many playoff games as the rest of us.
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: MDS on October 05, 2018, 01:05:41 PM
the phillies did beat the braves in one place....THE RATINGS

phils ratings were up 20% on last year, which really isnt that good considering how noncompetitive they were last year and that this group was playing fairly meaningful baseball for like 90% of the season.
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: Don Ho on October 05, 2018, 05:37:46 PM
Agreed 100%, that's not that great considering they were in the hunt through August. 
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: Geowhizzer on October 08, 2018, 09:35:22 PM
The countdown to Tommy John is ticking for Sixto:

Phillies top pitching prospect Sixto Sanchez will skip Arizona Fall League after setback (https://www.nbcsports.com/philadelphia/phillies/phillies-top-pitching-prospect-sixto-sanchez-will-skip-arizona-fall-league-after-setback)
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: MDS on October 20, 2018, 12:49:29 PM
i was out canvassing for votes in QV and kapler passed by me

first off he is built like a fire hydrant...easily more jacked than your average linebacker. he isnt insanely tall but he could break me into pieces with his index finger.

second i asked if they're signing machado and he said something to the effect of "i dont know, we'll see." i responded with the money doesnt matter you gotta do it and hes like "i love it."

so its official. machado to the phillies.
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: ice grillin you on October 20, 2018, 04:04:57 PM
you sound like you first heard of gabe kapler today

his build has been talked about way before he even came to the phillies

there like pictures on the internet and stuff
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: MDS on October 20, 2018, 05:45:11 PM
i know i jerked off to those

im just saying up close his physique is....something
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: Eagles_Legendz on October 20, 2018, 09:48:51 PM
nm- wrong thread
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on October 23, 2018, 09:38:36 AM
lil guy went home and tanned his nuts with coconut oil
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: Geowhizzer on October 27, 2018, 08:13:07 AM
Anyone who was stuck watching these games already knows this...

Phillies worst in MLB at making hard contact (http://www2.philly.com/philly/newsletters/phillies/phillies-mlb-hard-contact-rankings-fangraphs-asdrubal-cabrera-justin-bour-20181025.html)
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: ice grillin you on October 29, 2018, 11:56:01 AM
hey everyone

https://twitter.com/jcrasnick/status/1056927192700145665
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: AO1 on October 29, 2018, 12:17:52 PM
I wanna see Jays head explode
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: Geowhizzer on October 29, 2018, 12:25:27 PM
Chance of either one will happen is low, and not negligible only because of money.

Chance of both would seem infinitesimal to me.
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: MDS on October 29, 2018, 12:26:10 PM
a boy can dream

santana-machado-harper-hoskins-williams-herrera/quinn-kingery-alfaro

Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: AO1 on October 29, 2018, 12:36:55 PM
Remember Simmons/Dario/Lebron/Kawhi/Embiid
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: MDS on October 29, 2018, 01:08:48 PM
remember the nba has a max and the mlb does not
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: Don Ho on November 07, 2018, 03:19:33 AM
Shane's dad, Mike Victorino just elected Mayor of Maui.  Guy is classic, Mr. Aloha!
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: MDS on November 07, 2018, 09:41:20 PM
romey....j.....get ready

https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/mlb/columnist/bob-nightengale/2018/11/07/bryce-harper-phillies-free-agent-contract/1924622002/
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: AO1 on November 07, 2018, 09:54:01 PM
Bryce Harper is AT the Novacare complex

Wonít believe it till heís holding up a Phils jersey
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on November 09, 2018, 09:13:13 PM
romey....j.....get ready

https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/mlb/columnist/bob-nightengale/2018/11/07/bryce-harper-phillies-free-agent-contract/1924622002/

Canít wait
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: ice grillin you on November 23, 2018, 04:57:45 PM
GET

Quote
Magic​ and Bird never played together.​ Mantle and Mays never​ played together. Williams​ and​ DiMaggio​ never played​ together.​​ But Ö Look off into the distance. Hereís a pairing that could actually happen one of these years:

Bryce Harper and Mike Trout Ė together in Philadelphia? It isnít crazy. Is it?

The Phillies are currently the Vegas favorites to sign Harper this winter. Their owner, John Middleton, has lit up the baseball world by admitting to USA Today heís looking to spend ďstupidĒ money. And then thereís Trout.

He canít be a free agent for two more years. But you can currently find him digesting Thanksgiving dinner in lovely Millville, N.J., 41 miles up the road from that fabled South Philly corner where his Eagles season tickets are situated Ė and, in a related development, where the Phillies also play 81 games a year.

Heís not going anywhere anytime soon, or maybe ever. But if he does Ö

ďMike loves his Philly sports,Ē said one old friend.

So letís say this again. It isnít crazy. Is it?

ďI think itís possible,Ē said one big-league executive who has passed through both Philadelphia and L.A. of Anaheim. ďThat city would [go insane] if that happened.Ē

ďIs that some unimaginable dream Ė to see two of the best players on the planet in the same outfield? Absolutely not,Ē said Shane Victorino, former Phillie, former teammate of Trout in LA/Anaheim and former Vegas workout partner of Harper. ďIíve even told my wife, if that happens, Iíd want to go coach. Iíd come off the couch just to be part of that and help those guys with all the things that guys have to go through in Philly.Ē

Uh, whoah, whoah, whoah there, Mr. Flyiní Hawaiian. Weíre a long way, and who knows how many millions of dollars, from this actually happening. Heck, we wouldnít bet Harperís shoe collection on it ever happening at all.

But is it totally crazy? It isnít. Could we see this particular owner salivating over the thought of piling enough stupid money in front of Harper and Trout to pull it off? We could. So letís take a look at this wild idea Ė and whether it even makes sense.

The Harper-Trout connection 
Before we get into breaking down the dollars and the baseball logic, letís review the dots that have connected Harper and Trout for years.

In terms of career achievements, is it fair to compare them to Magic and Bird, Mantle and Mays, Williams and DiMaggio? Of course not.

Trout has held up his end of the journey toward all-time greatness. Harperís path has zig-zagged through good times and not-so-good times, highlights and lowlights, injuries and inconsistencies. We get that.

But letís put it aside for the moment. Itís still kind of incredible that these two men arrived in the big leagues to stay on exactly the same day Ė April 28, 2012. They were a massive topic then. Theyíre a massive topic now. And it feels as if theyíll be forever linked, for that and many other reasons.

Trout ranks first among all active players in career OPS (.990). Harper ranks seventh (.900). The only other player under 30 in that .900 OPS Club is Giancarlo Stanton. But we would argue that if you took a survey of casual sports fans from coast to coast, it is Trout and Harper who would emerge as the two most recognizable, move-the-needle baseball players on earth. And ohbytheway, theyíre both younger than Whit Merrifield or Joey Wendle, among others.

HIGHEST CAREER OPS, PLAYERS UNDER 30

PLAYER   AGE   OPS
Mike Trout   27   0.990
Giancarlo Stanton   29   0.905
Bryce Harper   26   0.900
Nolan Arenado   27   0.886
Freddie Freeman   29   0.875
(min. 3,000 PA; source: Baseball-reference.com)

So you can tell us all day long and all winter long that Harper is not the second-best position player in baseball, that Mookie Betts, Joey Votto, Nolan Arenado, Paul Goldschmidt, Christian Yelich, Aaron Judge, Kris Bryant, etc. have all out-achieved him, or have passed him by, or pick your favorite rationale. Cool. Not our debate topic of the day.

In a sport that is desperate for transcendent faces and personalities, Bryce Harper has ďit,Ē in a way that even Trout doesnít have ďit.Ē So why are we even going down this road? Thatís why.

Harperís future
What are the chances of Harper landing in Philadelphia this winter? Weíre all just guessing on that. Itís still more than two weeks until the winter meetings arrive in Harperís hometown (Las Vegas). And by all accounts, his agent, Scott Boras, is taking his time on this one. So the Harper market has barely taken shape.

But itís amazing how many people inside this sport almost assume that the Phillies will be the highest bidder in this auction. And if youíve studied the history of ďScott BorasĒ and ďhighest bidder,Ē youíll have a good feel for how this is likely to wind up if thatís the case.

There is still a lot of sentiment that Harperís first choice is to stay in Washington if the dollars are there. While the Nationalsí front office has made plans to move on without him Ė with an attractive Juan Soto/Victor Robles/Adam Eaton/Michael A. Taylor outfield no less Ė remember this: No matter where this man ends up, it will be an ownership decision, not a front-office decision. And the Nationalsí owners, the Lerner family, are ďin love with him,Ē said one exec who has known them for years. So for now at least, Washington remains in play.

But as purely a baseball fit, Harper and Citizens Bank Park have always made for a cute couple. Check out Harperís numbers in Philadelphia. Youíll get the picture.

HARPERíS HIGHEST CAREER OPS BY BALLPARK

PARK   OPS   GAMES PLAYED
Coors Field   1.116   20
Citizens Bank Park   0.930   50
Nationals Park   0.912   472
Citi Field   0.877   56
Great American Ballpark   0.861   21
(min. 20 games played; source: Baseball-reference.com)

To look at those numbers and to assume this pairing is inevitable, though, would be a gigantic mistake. In the end, the only numbers that really matter will have a $ in front of them. And if youíve read the comments of Phillies general manager Matt Klentak and team president Andy MacPhail this winter, theyíve all but recorded their own podcast in an effort to get the word out that theyíre not real comfortable with the years and dollars this is going to take.

Even Middleton acknowledged, in his USA Today interview, that MacPhail has repeatedly delivered that message to him personally, saying: ďAs Andy likes to tell me, ĎJohn, we are playing baseball after 2019, so, you canít spend every last dime after this year. You got to have something in the tank for future years.íĒ

Eloquently stated. So, hmmmm. What (or whom) would they be saving all those dimes for? Letís just say we have a hunch. And it just might involve Ö

Troutís future
There is no more common misconception in baseball these days than this: Mike Trout will be hitting free agency after the 2020 season.

Not so fast. The first question weíd have, and that many front-office types would have, is as basic as a 3-and-0 fastball: Why the heck would the Angels Ė and owner Arte Moreno Ė let that happen?

ďI would bet,Ē quipped one exec, ďthat Arte would spend $10 billion not to have to read the sentence: ĎArte Moreno was the owner who let Mike Trout walk away.íĒ

That ď$10 billionĒ part is an official exaggeration. The other part? Totally true. In a perfect world, the folks who run the Angels would vote not to have Trout play a single game in his life in any other uniform.

You should also remember this: Trout has never, for one second, expressed any unhappiness with any aspect of being an Angel. So if you think heís on the verge of forcing his way out, just so he has an easier commute to Millville, you donít know him very well.

ďThis,Ē said the old friend quoted earlier, ďisnít Jimmy Butler weíre talking about.Ē

Still, weíve asked some questions of friends and people who have known Trout for years. They all tell us thereís one thing that gnaws at him, and we bet you could guess what that is. At some point, if he doesnít play on a team that wins a postseason series (or at least looks like itís on the verge of winning), he is likely to consider his options.

If he does make it to free agency in two years, the line will be long and the price tag might make a MegaMillions jackpot look like your monthly savings-account interest. But the tug of playing for his hometown team, in front of his family and lifelong pals, could be a powerful magnetic force Ė assuming the dollars on the check are large enough.

ďYou know, Mike doesnít consider himself to be from Philly,Ē one longtime friend reminded us. ďMike considers himself to be from Millville. Heís all about Millville. But he does love Philly.Ē

Victorino says he and Trout used to talk about Philadelphia ďa lotĒ Ė since Trout was 16 when the 2008 Phillies were rolling toward a World Series. So Victorino canít help but recall that Trout idolized Chase Utley and measured himself against the stars on that team.

One night that sticks in Victorinoís mind was Oct. 2, 2015, a game in which Trout led off the ninth inning of a must-win game in Texas with a triple, then jumped to his feet and let out a roar they could probably hear back in Orange County. Moments later, he scored the winning run to keep the Angelsí playoff hopes alive.

ďHis locker was next to mine,Ē Victorino said. ďSo we were talking after the game. And I said, `You know what, Mike? As much fun as you said you had watching my teams in Philly Ö I played with some of the baddest dudes on the planet. But I canít tell you how much I love playing with a guy whoís that much better than every other person on the field.í I looked at that guy, and he was better than every one of us. And I wanted him to know that.Ē

Itís three years later now. And nobody should have to explain to any of us how much better Mike Trout still is than everybody else. But what happens if the Phillies sign Harper this winter and then Trout becomes a free agent in 24 months? Is there really enough room for both of them Ė in the same outfield and on the same payroll?

The Philliesí future
Now that John Middleton has let the world know this is the Philliesí time to spend, think about the messy spot he has put Matt Klentak and his front office in. No matter what they do now, how can it possibly turn out right?

If they donít sign somebody in the Harper/Manny Machado strata, they look like failures. If they do sign one of those guys, for 300 million bucks or so, weíll all be asking: ďWhoís worth that kind of money?Ē And the answer is probably: ďNobody.Ē So, good luck to them.

From a baseball standpoint, there is no argument that the Phillies are a one-player-away kind of team. They have many needs. They have many places to upgrade. And thereís an excellent case to be made that their money would be better spent filling those needs with multiple players Ė and saving up the big bucks for a 2020 run at Mike Trout.

But you know what the Phillies do need? Stars. Attractions. A reason to watch. A reason to spin through the turnstiles. And why do we think thatís been on the ownerís mind?

Did you know the Phillies didnít have a single two-win position player, according to Baseball-Referenceís Wins Above Replacement computations? They werenít just the only team in the sport without a player like that this year. They were the first since the 2004 Arizona Diamondbacks Ė and that was a juggernaut that lost 108 games!

So, why would the Phillies be interested in Bryce Harper? Because every darned night, he has a chance to do something that makes you say, ďWow. Did you see that?Ē Thatís why.

The question is: If they sign Harper, for what is likely to be the largest free-agent contract in the history of professional sports, how much money would they have left? And by that, we mean: How could they possibly turn around and sign Trout, too, in a couple of years?

Whew. Really good question.

We can only guess how this front office would answer that. But the guess would be that theyíd say they canít. Theyíve discouraged the popular thinking that they can afford to sign both Harper and Machado this winter. So, theyíd be just as likely to argue that, in reality, as they contemplate how to approach their present and future spending options, their choice comes down to Harper or Trout, not Harper and Trout.

But, of course, their friends in the agent community donít see it that way. They see a franchise that has spent way below its means for the last four years, a franchise with one of the biggest local TV deals in the sport and a franchise with vast potential to increase its revenue streams if it can just recapture the attention of its fan base.

ďThey are so awash in money,Ē said one agent who represents neither Harper nor Trout, ďthey can do anything they want.Ē

Theyíll feel intense pressure to stay under the luxury-tax threshold, naturally. But by the time Trout is eligible for free agency in two years, the threshold will be up to $210 million. And, as of today, the Phillies have exactly $15 million in guaranteed money committed to their entire roster for that season.

Jake Arrieta will be off the books by then. Carlos Santana will be off the books by then. Rhys Hoskins will merely be in his first year of arbitration eligibility. Only Aaron Nola, who would be a year away from free agency, would figure to command a significant payday.

Meanwhile, we count 11 teams that currently have multiple players theyíll be paying an AAV of $21 million or more for next season and beyond Ė even before any of this yearís free agents have signed. And if the Nationals were to sign Harper, just for perspectiveís sake, theyíd have three:

PLAYER   AVG. SALARY   TOTAL CONTRACT
Max Scherzer   $30M/yr   7 years, $210M
Stephen Strasburg   $25M/yr   7 years, $175M
Bryce Harper   $30+M/yr   ???

What would be different in the Philliesí case, obviously, is that they would be looking at potentially paying Harper and Trout $35 million-$40 million a year Ė for seven to 10 years. At the same time. And no team has ever done that. So, what are the chances the Phillies could be the first?

ďNo baseball person would ever advise any owner to do that,Ē said one executive we surveyed. ďThe owner has to decide that for himself.Ē

So, what, realistically, are the odds of Bryce Harper and Mike Trout ever playing in the same outfield? Donít ask them. Donít ask Matt Klentak. And donít ask Andy MacPhail.

You should only ask John Middleton how much stupid money he really wants to spend Ė to do what no owner not named Steinbrenner has ever done.
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: QB Eagles on November 23, 2018, 06:29:51 PM
It's gonna be real sad when they don't get Manny or Harper, and we're cheering on a washed-up Andrew McCutchen.

At least with Trout we have some indication that he would open to coming to Philly.
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: MDS on November 23, 2018, 07:15:29 PM
the good thing about trout is youll never before it gets there whether or not you have a shot

if hes not extended by next winter the trade market will be ON
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: MDS on December 02, 2018, 11:07:29 PM
gonna go on record and say a segura for jp crawford trade is a good thing

will see what other youngins are going to seattle, but segura is a good one
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: AO1 on December 02, 2018, 11:39:21 PM
Hopefully Santanaís part of the deal
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: smeags on December 03, 2018, 08:44:09 AM
that is the rumor.
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: ice grillin you on December 03, 2018, 09:25:33 AM
anything that gets rhys out of the outfield is a great thing....farg everything else
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: Rome on December 03, 2018, 10:25:45 AM
Itís not his fault that the Phillies stuck him where he doesnít belong.

As for Harper, farg him.  I want him nowhere near my team.  He is a franchise killing cancer and heíll be miserable in Philly.  That said, if they do sign him, they have to sign someone else with a similarly grotesque contract just to take the weight off his narrow shoulders.

Iíd give the Angels anything theyíd ask for Trout too.  They donít have enough for him but Iíd still ask.
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: ice grillin you on December 03, 2018, 10:29:48 AM
i dont care whose fault it is hes a horror show there

hes probably going to suck at first as well but like normal suck....not hindenburg suck
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: Rome on December 03, 2018, 11:53:12 AM
I actually think his playing the OF was a huge distraction for him and hurt him at the plate

No doubt he was beyond awful out there.  Just saying the fault lies with Klentak and the Mannequin for hanging out to dry out there. 
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: Rome on December 03, 2018, 05:49:09 PM
Trade is official and itís absolute thievery. 

Now get Manny and Corbin and trade for Trout. 

World Series and shtein.
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: MDS on December 04, 2018, 09:21:39 AM
machado will be interesting now...i still think the phillies will bid more than anyone but he really wants to play SS. not sure hes going to get that offer from anyone else but maybe the worthless white sox. if you miss on manny you can fall back into the nolan arenado bidding next offseason, too.

want no part of corbin. next year will be his age 30 season. itll take at least 5 years to get him. theres just no way this works out.
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: MDS on December 04, 2018, 03:56:14 PM
want no part of corbin. next year will be his age 30 season. itll take at least 5 years to get him. theres just no way this works out.

thank you allah...and lol @ the nats for giving him 6 years. 36 year old patrick corbin making $25 mil. sounds good.

for anybody upset consider this:

https://twitter.com/McCulloughTimes/status/1070052013826658304

now go give bryce 400 bills
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: Rome on December 04, 2018, 04:52:43 PM
$400M wonít cut it. 
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: MDS on December 07, 2018, 04:33:11 PM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Dt15jrWWwAUpgMM.jpg)
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on December 07, 2018, 05:26:40 PM
Nice.
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: Rome on December 07, 2018, 05:48:20 PM
http://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/25478445/washington-nationals-owner-mark-lerner-said-maxed-offer-bryce-harper

Hmmmm...
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: Rome on December 11, 2018, 03:10:49 PM
McCutcheon 3-Yrs/$45M or $50M depending on the source. 

Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: AO1 on December 11, 2018, 04:09:41 PM
Ehhhhh  :-*
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: MDS on December 11, 2018, 05:24:24 PM
not in love with this deal but need to see what else they do before fully judging it
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on December 11, 2018, 05:49:40 PM
McCutcheon 3-Yrs/$45M or $50M depending on the source.

That is a lot of money for him
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: Geowhizzer on December 11, 2018, 05:50:48 PM
McCutcheon 3-Yrs/$45M or $50M depending on the source.

You spelled Harper incorrectly.
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: Geowhizzer on December 11, 2018, 05:52:25 PM
McCutcheon 3-Yrs/$45M or $50M depending on the source.

That is a lot of money for him

Quote from: John Middleton
We're going into this expecting to spend money.  And maybe even be a little bit stupid about it.
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: Rome on December 11, 2018, 06:03:41 PM
Thatís not stupid money considering what these guys are getting paid.   

- However -

If heís worth 15-17 million a year, what is Harper worth or Trout for that matter?
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: Geowhizzer on December 11, 2018, 07:49:56 PM
???

https://twitter.com/rhyshoskins/status/1072620190221897731
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: Rome on December 11, 2018, 08:03:34 PM
If that was a troll job it was both mean and hilarious. 

Nice to see us wearing off on Rhys. 
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: MDS on December 11, 2018, 09:03:29 PM
That is a lot of money for him

jay bruce is getting 14 mil this year

If heís worth 15-17 million a year, what is Harper worth or Trout for that matter?

north of 30
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: Rome on December 12, 2018, 08:21:15 AM
I think theyíll both clear $35M/Yr.  Harper might clear $40M.
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: ice grillin you on December 12, 2018, 10:30:29 AM
happ to the yanks thank god
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: MDS on December 12, 2018, 11:43:43 AM
kenny walked that back...hes got 100 offers for 2 years, none for 3. his people gonna hold until the 3 comes.
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: ice grillin you on December 12, 2018, 11:44:41 AM
its oretty funny that the billion dollar phillies who were getting harper and machado cant get ja happ
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: ice grillin you on December 12, 2018, 10:57:23 PM
Phillies never had a chance at Harper or machado

who could have predicted this....
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: AO1 on December 13, 2018, 07:56:02 AM
Phillies never had a chance at Harper or machado

who could have predicted this....

Me when I said they should have made every possible effort to go after Stanton and not rely on possibly signing Harper or Machado. I know he had an NTC blah blah blah but if they were really serious about getting ďstupidĒ with spending they could have enticed him to come here. Weíre now stuck with 32 year old Mcclutchen and not much else to show this offseason. Signing him was as pointless as signing Santana last season. They might as well continue to bank rather than sign zesty deals and make a run at Trout in a few years. Their farm system is great st producing hyped up prospects who donít pan out.
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: MDS on December 13, 2018, 09:19:09 AM
Phillies never had a chance at Harper or machado

you always have a chance if youre offering more money. i actually think their best chance is harper. machado wants to be at short and wants to be in NY. boras' clients always take the better deal so if they just outbid LA (where he wants to go, and which doesnt have the salary space...yet), they might get him.

Me when I said they should have made every possible effort to go after Stanton and not rely on possibly signing Harper or Machado.

no idea why youre still on this. stanton didnt want to come here and his contract is a disaster they should stay 1000 miles away from even if he wanted to.
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: ice grillin you on December 20, 2018, 09:14:08 AM
Quote
In​ the words of one rival​ executive, it is the​ worst nightmare for​ the​ Phillies,​ also known​ as​​ Team Stupid Money: Manny Machado signs with the Yankees while Bryce Harper is still a free agent, increasing the pressure on the Phils to strike a deal with Harperís ever-accommodating agent, Scott Boras.

Remember the early talk about the Phillies signing both 26-year-old stars? It never made sense, but managing partner John Middleton sure raised expectations when he told USA Today at the ownersí meetings in November, ďWeíre going into this expecting to spend money. And maybe even be a little stupid about it.Ē

Middleton added the qualifier, ďWe just prefer not to be completely stupid,Ē but suddenly Team Stupid Money was a thing. And I donít know, just a guess, but the good citizens of Philadelphia are not going to be content if the Phillies settle for free-agent outfielder Andrew McCutchen and a couple of high-priced relievers, then conclude, ďMachado and Harper, gee, they just cost too much.Ē

Machado spent 90 minutes on Wednesday with the Yankees, the team that is at the top of the wish list, if you believe the industry buzz and what his friends supposedly are saying in Miami. He will visit the Phillies on Thursday, getting re-acquainted with three familiar faces from his days with the Orioles Ė team president Andy MacPhail, general manager Matt Klentak and assistant GM Ned Rice.

With Phillies manager Gabe Kapler also expected to be in attendance, the stakes could not be higher. The Phils need to connect with Machado as they fight the Yankeesí mystique and aura, not to mention the White Sox with their new TV contract and newly acquired first baseman Yonder Alonso, who just happens to be Ė coincidence, just coincidence! Ė Machadoís brother-in-law.

Mostly, though, the Phils just need to offer Machado stupid money, whether itís on Thursday or at some other point in the near future Ė enough to persuade him to give up shortstop for third base, force his other suitors into submission and eliminate the possibility of a dizzying tango with Boras over Harper for the next, oh, month or two months. A tango that, gulp, still might end up with Harper returning to the division rival Nationals.

The Phillies can hem and haw about all of the other ways they can improve, but they were pointing toward this moment long before Middletonís comments, preparing to finish off their rebuilding effort by unleashing their financial might on a deep free-agent class. Whether it was Harper or Machado, Machado or Harper, virtually the entire industry Ė not to mention the entire city of Philadelphia Ė assumed the Phils were ready to go big.

To this point, though, the Monsters of the Middleton have been relatively quiet, signing McCutchen to a semi-excessive, three-year, $50 million deal and acquiring shortstop Jean Segura in a five-player trade with the Mariners that carried the dual benefit of ridding the team of Carlos Santana and clearing first base for Rhys Hoskins.

Team Stupid Money lacks a left-handed starting pitcher, but after declining to guarantee Patrick Corbin a sixth year and J.A. Happ a third, might end up trading for the less accomplished Mike Minor of the Rangers. Team Stupid Money wants to sign a free-agent left-handed reliever, but has yet to complete a deal six days after Jim Salisbury of NBC Sports Philadelphia reported the Phils were ďstronglyĒ on Andrew Miller.

Corbin, 29, went to the Nationals for six years, $140 million Ė the Yankees also drew the line at five years, as if the risk in a deal of that length increases dramatically with the extra year. Happ, 36, went to the Yankees for two years, $34 million Ė more money than the Phillies were willing to offer him over the same term.

Which begs the question: What is the point of talking about stupid money if youíre not going to use it?

On Nov. 19, The Athleticís Matt Gelb detailed the inherent conflict between the aggressiveness of Middleton and the more deliberate, risk-averse MacPhail and Klentak.

If anything, Middleton is the outlier, a good, old-fashioned, money-whipping owner. These days, almost every team preaches discipline, managing its payroll with the bloodless efficiency of a broker managing his portfolio. The Yankees, in fact, might take the same take-it-or-leave-it approach with Machado they did with Corbin, refusing to be sucked into say, a 10-year deal.

The difference is, the Yankees won 100 games last season, and they can pivot by acquiring a second baseman and trotting out a left-side infield of shortstop Gleyber Torres and third baseman Miguel Andķjar Ė two of the top three finishers in the AL Rookie of the Year balloting Ė while Didi Gregorius recovers from Tommy John surgery.

The Phillies, on the other hand, currently feature the enigmatic Maikel Franco at third in addition to the talented Segura at short. And, as noted by The Athleticís Jayson Stark, they were the first team to endure a losing season Ė their sixth straight, for those counting Ė after being 15 or more games above .500 after 113 games.

I can hear the Philliesí brass already if they blow it with Machado and Harper, calling for patience, whispering about the possibility of signing third baseman Nolan Arenado in free agency next offseason or south Jersey native Mike Trout the offseason after that. Well, Arenado and Trout would be older than 26 if they hit the open market Ė a significant if, considering both might sign extensions. And if the Phillies cannot close on Machado or Harper, why should anyone expect them to close on any big free agent in the future?

Donít look now, but the other NL East contenders are undeterred by the alleged sleeping giant in Philadelphia. The Nationals will be improved with or without Harper. New Mets GM Brodie Van Wagenen, in possession of either new proprietary metrics or enhanced psychedelics, believes his team might be the division favorite. The Braves added third baseman Josh Donaldson and catcher Brian McCann to their division-champion roster, and possess better young talent than any of their division rivals.

For the Phillies, the choice is clear.

Do not get cute. Do not miss on the player you have spent years coveting. Do not advance to negotiations with Boras with your leverage compromised.

Youíre Team Stupid Money, remember?

Sign Machado.
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: Rome on December 20, 2018, 10:37:05 AM
What jilted bitchtits wrote that slop?
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: ice grillin you on December 20, 2018, 10:51:16 AM
national writer....no jilt involved...just truth
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: Rome on December 20, 2018, 11:01:42 AM
No writer of any sort of quality uses that tone unless they have an axe to grind with the subjects involved. 

Whoever wrote it clearly has a bias against the Phillies regardless if truths were revealed or not.  And they were, but it comes off as petty and unprofessional. 
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: AO1 on December 20, 2018, 11:20:12 AM
Falls in line with everything I've said and I agree with it. The Phillies will have to outbid the Yankees by a wide margin. "Stupid money" is what it'll take. I just don't see it. Imagine hitting in that lineup compared to hitting in the Phillies lineup. Harper is drawing interest from the Dodgers, another team with deep pockets. "Stupid money" to the Phillies is normal money for the Dodgers and Yankees.

Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: ice grillin you on December 20, 2018, 11:35:26 AM
No writer of any sort of quality uses that tone unless they have an axe to grind with the subjects involved. 

Whoever wrote it clearly has a bias against the Phillies regardless if truths were revealed or not.  And they were, but it comes off as petty and unprofessional. 

kenny rosenthal  is a legend who might be in the HOF someday and never has and never will have bias....honestly who would care about such a bland franchise like the phils to even have a bias

him spittin hot truth darts at your team might upset you but theres no bias

Falls in line with everything I've said and I agree with it. The Phillies will have to outbid the Yankees by a wide margin. "Stupid money" is what it'll take. I just don't see it. Imagine hitting in that lineup compared to hitting in the Phillies lineup. Harper is drawing interest from the Dodgers, another team with deep pockets. "Stupid money" to the Phillies is normal money for the Dodgers and Yankees.

stupid money to the phillies describes how they spend it

stupid money to the red sox yanks and dodgers describes how much they have
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: MDS on December 20, 2018, 01:22:23 PM
the phillies were always going to have to outspend everyone to get manny....good job cracking that case, BDN
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: Rome on December 20, 2018, 01:38:26 PM
How can you argue with someone who uses ďspittin hot truth dartsĒ in a sentence.
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: smeags on December 20, 2018, 01:47:19 PM
How can you argue with someone who uses ďspittin hot truth dartsĒ in a sentence.

respect the skillz biotch.


(https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/nick_tranqd.jpg)
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: MDS on December 20, 2018, 02:04:21 PM
How can you argue with someone who uses ďspittin hot truth dartsĒ in a sentence.

even though your take was terrible this is a good point
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: AO1 on December 20, 2018, 02:22:32 PM
the phillies were always going to have to outspend everyone to get manny....good job cracking that case, BDN

But I thought you said signing Carlos Santana would give the Phillies credibility so free agents would want to sign here?
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: ice grillin you on December 20, 2018, 02:39:32 PM
the phillies were always going to have to outspend everyone to get manny....good job cracking that case, BDN

But I thought you said signing Carlos Santana would give the Phillies credibility so free agents would want to sign here?

hes posted approximately 700 times in the last year or two that the phillies were the clear favorite for at least one of machado/harper and that they were on an even playing field with the yanks sox dodgers etc...

they might not even be on the white sox level
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: MDS on December 20, 2018, 03:08:13 PM
i never in 100 years said that they were on an even playing field with those teams....im not even sure what that means. they are positioned to get 1 because they could (potentially) outspend those teams. as it turns out they only need to outspend 1 to get MM. harper they might be competing against themselves.


But I thought you said signing Carlos Santana would give the Phillies credibility so free agents would want to sign here?

that was part of why they signed him (it didnt work, hoskins cant play LF), but i have no idea what that has to do with needing to outbid everyone to get MM. it wasnt always going to be as simple as outbidding...they were going to have to show they were on the right path to winning, make him feel like hes not walking into a minor league clubhouse, have some guys he could connect with, etc. thats what santana was about.

segura and mccutchen sort of assume that role now. but more so they won 80 games last year, have gotten slightly better this winter and can pitch it to manny that with him theyre winning 90+ games. plus, give him more money than anyone has ever got.
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: Rome on December 20, 2018, 04:00:42 PM
$400M should get it done.  All the cancer pusher has to do is cut the check. 
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: MDS on December 21, 2018, 07:40:16 PM
no MM decision until 2019

happy new year
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: ice grillin you on December 22, 2018, 12:10:53 AM
$400M should get it done.  All the cancer pusher has to do is cut the check.

396 for the yankees
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: AO1 on December 27, 2018, 10:55:28 AM
And there you have it

https://sports.yahoo.com/bryce-harper-manny-machado-reportedly-dont-like-idea-playing-philadelphia-024356728.html
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: MDS on December 27, 2018, 11:46:14 AM
well if joel sherman throws it deep into a notes column, you know its true
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: AO1 on December 27, 2018, 11:49:24 AM
Youíre like a Trump supporter

#MPGA
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: smeags on December 27, 2018, 11:56:49 AM
go get trout.
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: MDS on December 27, 2018, 12:13:48 PM
Youíre like a Trump supporter

#MPGA

i dont think the phillies are getting either but they will offer the most money and some random blurb from a low level writer has no bearing on reality

go get trout.

i know socioeconomically speaking you are poor white trash but that doesnt mean you can blurt out nonsense like this and expect me not to cock slap you.

trout isnt a free agent until following the 2020 season. he is highly unlikely to be traded before then. if the angels season is in the gutter in summer 2020, perhaps then a trade will occur. but this is all hinging on him not signing a major extension which is the most likely outcome. the extension wont happen will MM and BH sign. 
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: smeags on December 27, 2018, 12:23:43 PM
yeah, i know its a pipedream, much like you having a cock is.
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: Rome on December 27, 2018, 12:44:06 PM
Iíd rather wait for Trout. 
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: ice grillin you on December 27, 2018, 12:58:46 PM
get all three
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: AO1 on December 27, 2018, 02:31:48 PM
Letís not get stupid now
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: General_Failure on December 27, 2018, 03:04:47 PM
You're all super cool guys.
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: smeags on December 27, 2018, 03:35:19 PM
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Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: QB Eagles on December 28, 2018, 09:14:37 AM
The team salary might be less, but Harper is marketable enough that any competent agent is going to be able to steer more money into his hands if heís playing in LA or NYC, unless the Phillies outbid by a truly insane amount.
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: MDS on January 03, 2019, 01:36:28 PM
phillies go 2/21 on robertson after refusing to go 2/25 on miller

0.85 and 1.03 whips the last 2 years. this is better than i was anticipating.
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: ice grillin you on January 03, 2019, 02:05:43 PM
monster offseason!!
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: Rome on January 03, 2019, 02:46:13 PM
The Phillies signed David Robertson.  Solid get. 
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: smeags on January 03, 2019, 03:15:34 PM
The Phillies signed David Robertson.  Solid get.

nice whips the last two years.

that stuff matters.
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: MDS on January 03, 2019, 03:48:03 PM
yes, preventing people from reaching base matters

thank you
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: ice grillin you on January 03, 2019, 04:03:29 PM
34 year old relievers history even recent history is meaningless...could he have a 2.15 era and 1.00 whip next year sure....but he could also go 4.12 and 1.19

they have a trillion right handed arms in the organization that id much rather try as a reliever

this is the phillies signing a guy as if they signed harper and machado and are contenders

its an eh move at best and will look even worse in spring training if they have whiffed on everything important
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: Rome on January 03, 2019, 04:45:48 PM
Heís a good reliever and they signed him for reasonable dough.  I like it. 
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: AO1 on January 03, 2019, 05:08:33 PM
34 year old relievers history even recent history is meaningless...could he have a 2.15 era and 1.00 whip next year sure....but he could also go 4.12 and 1.19

they have a trillion right handed arms in the organization that id much rather try as a reliever

this is the phillies signing a guy as if they signed harper and machado and are contenders

its an eh move at best and will look even worse in spring training if they have whiffed on everything important

Spot on assessment. I could sort of understand the move if he was a lefty and they were contenders but this falls into the Carlos Santana why signing
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: Rome on January 03, 2019, 06:34:24 PM
So theyíre not contenders if they sign Machado and/or Harper? 
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: AO1 on January 03, 2019, 06:38:46 PM
ďIfĒ

And no
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: Rome on January 03, 2019, 07:36:37 PM
You do know that Robertson is actually tougher on lefthanders than righties, right?  Plus heís willing to pitch anywhere provided theyíre in high pressure situations. 

Heís been one of the better relievers in baseball for a while.  How valuable would he have been last year during the August and September freefall?

I like the signing.  To me itís logical if they view themselves as contenders, and they are if they hook either one or two or both of the big fish. 
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: ice grillin you on January 03, 2019, 11:01:51 PM
So theyíre not contenders if they sign Machado and/or Harper?

Correct!
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: MDS on January 04, 2019, 09:47:54 AM
its an eh move at best and will look even worse in spring training if they have whiffed on everything important

its more of meh move because 2 years at 10 per is basically nothing. the tommy hunter and pat neshek moves were much worse and even those didnt mean anything. its not like they gave him 5 years.

You do know that Robertson is actually tougher on lefthanders than righties, right?  Plus he’s willing to pitch anywhere provided they’re in high pressure situations. 

this is strangely a good baseball point by rome. robertson has reverse splits and doesnt care if hes used in the 7th 8th or 9th. career wise, he gives up a 546 ops against left handers. andrew miller? 659. britton? 604.

now of course his first appearance against freeman he is going to give up a 3 run homer because its the phillies and this is what happens, but the logic is solid.

Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: ice grillin you on January 04, 2019, 09:56:33 AM
doesnt matter who he is better against...no one cares about watching dave farging robertson (or for that matter andrew miller) pitch meaningless phillie games...

again if they sign machado or harper and trade for a starter or whatever else they need to do to become contenders then fine ill take the veteran over the system....or even if robertson was 27 and they signed him to five years i guess it would mean something

otherwise its a less than meaningless move

they literally have a dozen potential bullpen arms that if developed and successful will be pitching when games matter....i wanna see them find those guys
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: smeags on January 04, 2019, 10:03:59 AM
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Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: MDS on January 04, 2019, 10:09:42 AM
again if they sign machado or harper and trade for a starter or whatever else they need to do to become contenders then fine ill take the veteran over the system....or even if robertson was 27 and they signed him to five years i guess it would mean something

otherwise its a less than meaningless move

youre still going to see all of those guys. they can really only have 4/5 roster lock RPs. the other spots go to guys with options. so the guys on the fringes of the roster and in AA/AAA will get opportunities. i think both hunter and neshek are gone, even if they have to eat the money.
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: ice grillin you on January 04, 2019, 10:14:35 AM
robertson is gonna chew up what 60-70 innings?

id rather every last one of them go to kids
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: Rome on January 04, 2019, 10:55:43 AM
Thatís nice.  They wonít.  Theyíll go to the guy they signed.  Sorry. 
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: smeags on January 04, 2019, 10:59:19 AM
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Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: General_Failure on January 04, 2019, 11:17:17 AM
I didn't know you were a Facebook housewife. Got any essential oils for sale?
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: Rome on January 04, 2019, 11:48:14 AM
I went with my daughter to Bath & Body Works to buy my wife Christmas gifts.  I took one step in there and said nope.  Handed the kid $50 and said get whatever you think sheíd want.  Scary shtein. 
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: smeags on January 04, 2019, 11:57:12 AM
you really put an effort into your Christmas shopping.
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: Rome on January 04, 2019, 09:19:25 PM
you really put an effort into your Christmas shopping.

Turns out thatís like 10 bottles of goo. 
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: MDS on January 09, 2019, 08:42:30 PM
yankees are out on MM and were actually never really in

phils and chisox have made the offers....here we go
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: Munson on January 10, 2019, 09:10:19 PM
And now I'm seeing an article saying Harper to Phillies is now a stronger possibility than it was previously.

Are they trying to superteam it?
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: Geowhizzer on January 11, 2019, 11:49:29 AM
Take it for what you will:  Phillies to hire Manny Machadoís mentor, Bobby Dickerson, from Baltimore (https://www.nbcsports.com/philadelphia/phillies/phillies-hire-manny-machados-mentor-bobby-dickerson-baltimore)
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: ice grillin you on January 11, 2019, 12:15:05 PM
Take it for what you will:  Phillies to hire Manny Machadoís mentor, Bobby Dickerson, from Baltimore (https://www.nbcsports.com/philadelphia/phillies/phillies-hire-manny-machados-mentor-bobby-dickerson-baltimore)

im guessing chicago signing his two best buds means more but neither probably mean much of anything
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: MDS on January 11, 2019, 01:07:18 PM
the yankees signing lamaheiu means a lot...they are out

chisox or phils. or he takes a 1-year kick the can down the road deal with the dodgers or something.
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: ice grillin you on January 11, 2019, 01:24:49 PM
yankees are out on MM and were actually never really in

the yankees signing lamaheiu means a lot...they are out


lol
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: MDS on January 11, 2019, 02:17:30 PM
what did i tell you 3 years ago you fossil
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: ice grillin you on January 11, 2019, 02:48:46 PM
so the yankees have always been out...but the signing of lamaheiu today "means a lot" because it means they are out on machado...were they out three years ago or were they in until today?...im confused
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on January 12, 2019, 08:31:00 AM
How in the farg could they possibly go to arbitration with Nola?

Morons
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: Rome on January 12, 2019, 08:33:16 AM
Cue a certain dumbass to assure us that itís all part of the process.  Nothing to see here.  Move along...
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: MDS on January 12, 2019, 04:40:06 PM
i dont see why anyone would care about an arb debate between a player and team but here we are
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: ice grillin you on January 13, 2019, 12:02:19 AM
Cue a certain dumbass to assure us that itís all part of the process.  Nothing to see here.  Move along...

i dont see why anyone would care about an arb debate between a player and team but here we are

lololol

how can someone be so predictable and also amazing at the same time...it should be boring but its not
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: MDS on January 13, 2019, 10:26:33 AM
someone is going to have to explain to me why this matters because i genuinely dont get it
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: Geowhizzer on January 15, 2019, 07:37:18 PM
https://twitter.com/BNightengale/status/1085304345317519361
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: Munson on January 15, 2019, 07:43:39 PM
I'd rather sign Machado then go after Trout in two years.

Heard Stark on the radio today say would you rather have Machado/Harper this year or Arenado/Trout next year or whatever. Obviously just a hypoethical but that's a risk
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: Rome on January 15, 2019, 08:04:45 PM
Why couldnít they go after Trout?  farg that.  They have the dough.  Get. 
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: Don Ho on January 16, 2019, 03:27:59 AM
shtein they pull any of this shtein off I'll be all "Nick who?  Alshon what?"
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: MDS on January 16, 2019, 10:14:31 AM
if you sign machado and harper now it pretty much takes you out of the trout running in 2 years...thats like 90 mil+ tied up in 3 players, which isnt even feasible

trout is really the only superstar who would want to sign here. hes a weirdo who likes dumpy jersey diners and the eagles.
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: Munson on January 16, 2019, 05:16:32 PM
https://twitter.com/Buster_ESPN/status/1085587294730502147

I mean, shtein if this is true....why not just throw 8 years and 200 mil at him? That leaves more than enough room to make a run at Trout in 2 years.
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: Rome on January 19, 2019, 06:11:22 AM
http://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/25797148/kris-bryant-chicago-cubs-frustrated-unsigned-bryce-harper-manny-machado

Funny stuff considering itís their own fault for not signing already.  Teams arenít willing to back up the armored trucks and dump loads of cash anymore, mostly because they canít.   A few can but most of them are already tied up.   Thatís limited their choices.  Itís basic economics at work. 

But sure, blame the teams for refusing to be extorted because thatís productive. 

Also - Winter Storm Harper is about to unload on the northeast.  Coincidence?   😆
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: ice grillin you on January 19, 2019, 01:22:19 PM
Iím not sure what constitutes an armored truck but Harper has already been offered at least 300 million

the loser in all this is going to be whatever teams who have been in the mix that donít get one of these guys

I canít even imagine the embarrassment for the white sox or Phillies if either organization whiffs on both
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: Rome on January 19, 2019, 01:32:09 PM
I notice he didnít actually take it.  Iím thinking maybe that was Borashtein?
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: ice grillin you on January 19, 2019, 02:49:53 PM
boras went into the whole thing with the intention of getting the biggest contract of all time so yes
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: Rome on January 19, 2019, 03:02:06 PM
Boras could still swindle someone into giving Brycie his dough, but it sure looks more probable heíll end up getting the highest AAV for a shorter term.  That would be ideal for the Phillies because they have the most room and the most to give. 
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: MDS on January 19, 2019, 04:43:50 PM
the white sox are in the fake sweepstakes...they are a bottom 5 team with no fan base...they are pretending to be in to say they were in....the phillies are IN and if they whiff they are never living it down
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: Rome on January 31, 2019, 09:31:48 AM
This Harper/Machado melodrama is the dumbest thing ever.  Pick a team already, iceholes.
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: Rome on February 01, 2019, 07:51:37 PM
https://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/nationals/told-of-girls-assault-at-spring-training-hotel-gabe-kapler-dodgers-didnt-alert-police/2019/02/01/45da0208-2624-11e9-81fd-b7b05d5bed90_story.html?fbclid=IwAR3ksETQwCUnvPJDvccgNORLBQ1ZVkDVh_nLtWfSMe0jqBTGwXsv9CAS6Bc&noredirect=on&utm_term=.f5806be4da92

Holy farging shtein. 
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: ice grillin you on February 01, 2019, 08:26:28 PM
words canít express how unsurprising this is...only surprising thing is that Kapler didnít roofie her
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: Rome on February 01, 2019, 08:36:05 PM
His solution after she was sexually assaulted by a Dodgers employee, plied with booze and beaten by two adult women was to invite all to dinner to chat about it. 

I mean OH MY GOD.
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: AO1 on February 01, 2019, 08:37:46 PM
Sounds like Kapler went above and beyond to me
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: Rome on February 01, 2019, 09:00:17 PM
Lol
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: ice grillin you on February 01, 2019, 09:13:55 PM
not that anyone was coming here anyway but they def arenít now
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: MDS on February 01, 2019, 11:15:12 PM
dusty wathan's dick just got hard

i will say i have seen zero chatter from the phillies beats on this
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: Rome on February 02, 2019, 04:33:47 AM
Itís back page news now. 
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: Geowhizzer on February 02, 2019, 07:48:56 PM
Kapler's Statement:

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Many of you may be aware of the recent accusations made against the Dodgers and me. I thought that the best thing I could do to explain my actions in this situation would be to walk everyone through my involvement in these events from start to finish.

Before we begin, I want to make one thing clear: There is an allegation that I concealed or otherwise mishandled a sexual assault claim. This is 100% not true. There was no allegation of sexual assault made to me during my handling of this incident.

Now, Iíd like to share what happened.

I was contacted by the grandmother of the victim the night of February 24th, 2015 via my Dodgers email address. This email contained a written account of an incident that had taken place the night before involving two Dodgers minor league players. I called the grandmother to confirm what had happened. Then, I spoke to the players involved. One player had no recollection of the events at all (all parties agreed that he was passed out due to overconsumption of alcohol during the relevant period and was not a participant or witness to the event). The other confirmed in broad outlines what was said by the grandmother. The next evening, February 25th, the victim sent an email to my Dodgers email address containing her written account of what happened.

All three of the accounts described a serious situation, but there was no allegation of sexual assault.

That situation was, in sum:

Ė Two players and two women met the individual in question. The group of five returned to the hotel room where one of the players was staying.

Ė One player passed out on the bed.

Ė The victim vomited on the other bed due to alcohol intoxication.

Ė The two women proceeded to hit her on the head and poured water on her.

Ė The other player shared a video clip of the incident on Snapchat.

Ė The two women asked the victim to leave.

I worked to learn what happened from the players involved, the victim, and the grandmother. All three accounts independently outlined the same events. While a serious physical assault allegation was made against the two women in the room (in an environment that the two players helped to create), none of these accounts involved any sexual assault allegations, and no physical assault allegations were made against either Dodgers player. I and others at the Dodgers still took their role in the incident very seriously and proceeded to act with the information that we had.

Both players admitted their role in the incident and felt remorseful that their actions helped to create a situation that allowed these events to occur in their presence. The two players wanted to apologize directly to the victim for their poor decision making and lack of responsibility or maturity. To facilitate this, and with the understanding (as recounted by all parties I spoke to) that there was no physical or sexual encounters between the players and the alleged victim, I suggested a meeting in order for the players to apologize. The sole purpose was to provide the opportunity for the victim to receive an apology in a controlled environment with supervision, and to educate the players on how to be accountable. The meeting was suggested to the victim, and she declined.  We respected her wishes and dropped the idea.

Subsequently, I received three emails (two from the grandmother, one from the victim) requesting financial assistance in some way (ďI would appreciate any type of offerĒ). I felt a request of this nature was above my paygrade. I shared this information with people within the Dodgers. I did not reply to these requests, I did not provide financial assistance, I did not offer to provide financial assistance, and I did not engage in any negotiations of the sort.

The question of why I didnít report this to the police is a fair one. Admittedly, there were many thoughts going through my mind at the time. But above all, the victimís grandmother asked for my reassurance that I wouldnít ďturn [the victim] inĒ before the victim would share what had happened. After the victim shared her description of the night, she sent me a follow up email and said she didnít want to talk about it any further. My feeling at the time was that the victim should have the right to make the decision about what she wanted to do. Perhaps I should have taken it out of her hands, but my intention was to respect the victim and her wishes.

In addition to my own involvement with this process, I alerted my supervisor and the Dodgers legal department to allow them to handle whatever employment and legal consequences were deemed appropriate to the situation. It should be noted that because the incident occurred in February, minor league players had not yet reported to camp. There were no formal baseball activities. I could not then suspend or bench the players or pull them from games Ė there were none going on at that time.

Again, at the time and as far as I was aware, there were no claims that either player assaulted anyone in any way (sexually or otherwise). While others determined the consequences for the players from a legal and social perspective, I and others in player development took steps to work on their decision-making skills.

On March 4th, 2015, the player in question asked for assistance in securing an attorney as he had been contacted by the police. I passed that request to the appropriate parties within the Dodgers. That same day, I was notified that the Dodgers would be hiring an attorney to represent the player. At the request of the playerís attorney, I shared with him all communications I had with the victim and the grandmother. The attorney followed up with me on March 6th, 2015 ďregarding the police investigation of an incident that occurred at the Hampton Inn in Glendale on February 23-24, 2015Ē to thank me for sharing the information. At this point, I understood that this situation was in the hands of the police and the legal system and that my role was complete. My understanding is that there was no prosecution based on the results of that investigation. By the time the investigation concluded, the player had already been released from the Dodgers.

Ultimately, I tried to make the best possible decisions I could to ensure that this incident was handled appropriately and to refer the situation to the proper individuals at the Dodgers. I acted based on what I knew at the time based on written accounts and discussions. I believe my actions respected the victim, her situation, the player, and my role at the Dodgers.

I take violence against women, especially sexual violence, incredibly seriously. In this particular case, the notion that a sexual assault had taken place was never brought up during the time that I was involved in responding. There is a big difference between responding to a player who displayed an unacceptable lack of judgment and one that assaulted a woman. I am well aware of that difference, and I assure you that I would have acted differently if at the time I was involved I had reason to believe that a sexual assault had occurred.

In short, I believed everything that the victim told me throughout the process, and I acted based on that information to the best of my ability. During my handling of this situation, I had no reason to suspect that a sexual assault was alleged. I tried to make the players involved aware of their poor decisions, and I tried to encourage them to make proper decisions in the future. I believe I acted with the best intentions based on what I knew at the time. My goal in every interaction is to always act with integrity and to treat everyone with respect, and I believe my actions reflected those principles.

Thanks for reading.
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: Geowhizzer on February 05, 2019, 10:32:42 PM
More trade rumors that probably won't happen:  J.T. Realmuto (https://www.nbcsports.com/philadelphia/phillies/source-phillies-have-indeed-had-trade-talks-marlins-regarding-jt-realmuto?fbclid=IwAR1wZS8xdnvTrejd2E145fF94VqhDyLqc8TxlbHkAOGxv7OCW-tMpHP_CQw)

Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on February 06, 2019, 10:45:15 AM
Horrible offseason by baseball.

Yawn.
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: MDS on February 06, 2019, 01:24:57 PM
j your lukewarm takes are making me legit angry
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: Don Ho on February 06, 2019, 04:37:14 PM
When Harper signs with the Giants buckle up, the rage will kick in.
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: Geowhizzer on February 06, 2019, 08:11:53 PM
More trade rumors that probably won't happen:  J.T. Realmuto (https://www.nbcsports.com/philadelphia/phillies/source-phillies-have-indeed-had-trade-talks-marlins-regarding-jt-realmuto?fbclid=IwAR1wZS8xdnvTrejd2E145fF94VqhDyLqc8TxlbHkAOGxv7OCW-tMpHP_CQw)

Supposedly the Marlins are demanding Sixto Sanchez be included in the deal.
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: MDS on February 07, 2019, 01:19:02 PM
just an amazing risk with the sixto trade...he could never reach AAA or he could be destroying them for 8 years in the division

realmuto is probably the best catcher in baseball. with this trade they absolutely have to sign bryce
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: ice grillin you on February 07, 2019, 01:22:59 PM
sixto is garbage

id worry more about alfaro developing and even that is not so risky as hes gonna be 26
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: AO1 on February 07, 2019, 01:26:47 PM
Sixtoís only 20, my concern with him is his arm falling off in a few years. I like Alfaro but if they can upgrade with Realmuto itís really a no-brainer. The Marlins supposedly want another prospect or two. If they pull this trade off and can add either Machado or Harper their lineup will be legit.
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: ice grillin you on February 07, 2019, 01:33:48 PM
the problem with the trade and im not against it is not that they are giving up guys that will be awesome later....its that if they give up three/four guys just for realmuto they really hurt their asset pool to potentially get other players who are better and or at a more important position

like why not keep all your assets and just increase your offer to harper or machado or both....i dont totally get going HAM with prospects for realmuto but not HAM with money for harchado

Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: MDS on February 07, 2019, 01:43:13 PM
thats a fair point

also keep in mind...the upgrade from alfaro to realmuto is real and its spectacular. alfaro is a pretty much garbage offensively and seriously flawed defensively. he might well improve but i dont see it. realmuto is the real deal. they are going from a bottom-tier catcher to a top 3.

with that said, the gap between realmuto and the rest of the catchers is significant. you are buying a ton of positional value here. the production they will get out of catcher is going to be so much better than the mets, nats and braves get. there is next to no catching talent in MLB right now, except for this guy and maybe sanchez.
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: ice grillin you on February 07, 2019, 01:49:28 PM
id rather have a chooch at C and harper/machado + SP1/2

than realmuto and harper/machado
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: MDS on February 07, 2019, 01:55:58 PM
chooch doesnt exist anymore and there really no attainable comps for him.

it is fair to say, hold these assets off for a potential trade for a SP in july or next winter. they are most likely going to need an upgrade there unless like eflin makes a huge leap.
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: AO1 on February 07, 2019, 02:48:23 PM
Trade is official. They gave up an additional meh prospect in Stewart and some overseas salary money
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: MDS on February 07, 2019, 03:31:37 PM
i would not call stewart a meh prospect...really good season in lakewood last year. sub 1 whip in 20 starts. unlikely to be a cy young contender but isnt a throw in by any means
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: AO1 on February 07, 2019, 03:51:07 PM
He doesnít crack their top 30 prospects, heís the epitome of a meh prospect
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: MDS on February 07, 2019, 04:05:13 PM
Quote
Will Stewart topped Lakewood in innings. He is something, the evaluators all agreed. What that is remains to be seen. Stewart, a 21-year-old former 20th round pick, started 20 games and finished with a 2.03 ERA. He posted the lowest strikeout rate (20.5 percent) on the team. But his 62.1 percent ground-ball rate was the highest in the South Atlantic League and among the top five highest ground-ball rates in all of minor-league baseball, according to FanGraphs data.

ďHe just throws strikes,Ē an AL scout said. ďThree pitches for strikes. Long ways to go.Ē

Stewart, a lefty, throws his sinker between 88 and 94 mph. Heíll lean on his changeup. The two breaking balls sometimes showed well. What evaluators saw was a prospect who pitched above his age, with an advanced feel for his secondary pitches. The Phillies shut him down at 113 2/3 innings, so he did not pitch in the postseason.
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: ice grillin you on February 07, 2019, 04:06:30 PM
He doesnít crack their top 30 prospects, heís the epitome of a meh prospect

hes in the 20's on almost every list ive seen but hes trash....it was a complete relief seeing him in there and not a real prospect
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: Rome on February 07, 2019, 05:33:43 PM
Alfaro is a decent starting catcher, the other kid is eh and Sanchez is a fireballing question mark with potential HOF shtein.   I hate to see him go, but they got a young all-star catcher back in return. 

You gotta do what you gotta do...

I think the trade is pretty fair for both sides, actually. 
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: Rome on February 07, 2019, 05:39:42 PM
And maybe Harper and Machado have already said no, so why wait? 

- Or -

Theyíre still waiting and they just addressed a concern possibly shared by both of them in terms of potential lineup firepower?  Because they definitely and immediately improved with him in the lineup every night.   
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: phattymatty on February 07, 2019, 07:14:03 PM
baseball is so boring.  more like fakemuto amirite.
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: ice grillin you on February 07, 2019, 08:11:13 PM
And maybe Harper and Machado have already said no, so why wait

it turns into a debacle of a trade if they dont get Harper...not saying he isnít going to the phils but thereís no chance they do this deal if they know they arenít getting him
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: Rome on February 07, 2019, 08:50:47 PM
Itís not a debacle.  They upgraded the thinnest position in baseball with an all-star and arguably the best player at his position last year.  They provided Hoskins with protection in the lineup.  Heís still 27 and they have two seasons before he reaches FA, so they have cost certainty at a critical position. 

Strictly from a ďwin nowĒ perspective, heís every bit as important a get as Machado would be.  Harper would be a titanic get, thatís true, and I hope they get him despite my blind hatred of him.

But... if they donít, and theyíre only ďstuckĒ with Realmuto for two years... who else becomes a FA after 2020?  Trout.

And maybe heís the ultimate end game here.  Eggs. Basket. Whatever. 
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: ice grillin you on February 07, 2019, 08:57:51 PM
yes it is

in fact itís an amazingly idiotic trade if they donít at minimum get Harper but really they need him and a pitcher

you donít trade all that for a catcher that is better but not crazy better than Ramos or grandal just to lose for the next few years
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: MDS on February 07, 2019, 11:12:45 PM
hes actually crazy better than ramos...ramos is fat and cant move

grandal is horribly inconsistent

but im with you this trade is a disaster if no bryce or manny
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: Rome on February 13, 2019, 11:14:16 AM
https://www.nbcsports.com/philadelphia/phillies/aaron-nola-phillies-reach-long-term-contract-extension

Boom
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: Rome on February 17, 2019, 06:50:55 PM
Harper is a Phillie.  Iím calling it. 

Someone get Jay some smiling salts. 
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: Munson on February 17, 2019, 07:28:48 PM
Can we have Manny too please
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: MDS on February 17, 2019, 08:59:42 PM
theyre not getting both and id rather have bryce

manny wants to go to the yankees but the yankees dont want him....anyone who gets him is getting a im here for the $$ guy
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on February 18, 2019, 09:01:25 AM
Harper is a Phillie.  Iím calling it. 

Someone get Jay some smiling salts.

The both of them, and their agents, can farg off.
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: Rome on February 18, 2019, 11:07:15 AM
Iím so proud that youíve grown into a jaded, bitter old farger.

😆
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: Geowhizzer on February 18, 2019, 11:11:52 AM
What, no news yet?  I'm shocked, I thought this time was really it...  ::)
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: MDS on February 18, 2019, 12:08:58 PM
i know the pro management mentality had a hold on MAGA chuds, trump apologists and geriatric fake liberals like romey...but they even have the j's of the world now

sad reality
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: Rome on February 18, 2019, 12:38:58 PM
I hope they bust the bank.  But this should have been done months ago.  And it could have been in Harperís case considering he was allegedly offered $300M over 10 yrs by his former team.   I mean how much more do you really need?   Is the extra $10M heís said to have been offered by the Phillies really worth all this?
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: QB Eagles on February 18, 2019, 12:52:26 PM
Quote
Is the extra $10M heís said to have been offered by the Phillies really worth all this?

All what? I'm sure he's relaxing somewhere. It's the baseball fans who think that what is happening now represents some kind of crisis. Skipping spring training to earn a few more million sounds like a good deal to me.

I do think it's somewhat unsightly to drag on for so long, so MLB should try to figure out how to have a more defined free agency period that ends before actual baseball starts. But it seems like the management, agents, and players are all behaving the way the current system incentivizes them to behave.
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: Rome on February 18, 2019, 12:56:51 PM
Iím talking about the effect itís having on the market.  As long as these two pins are standing, it seems like little else is going to move. 

Then again if this is a concerted effort by the owners not to sign a swath of elite talent, the players certainly have grounds for collusion charges down the line. 
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: MDS on February 18, 2019, 04:36:20 PM
   I mean how much more do you really need?   Is the extra $10M heís said to have been offered by the Phillies really worth all this?

why dont you ask the billionaire owners that
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: Geowhizzer on February 18, 2019, 06:15:43 PM
   I mean how much more do you really need?   Is the extra $10M heís said to have been offered by the Phillies really worth all this?

why dont you ask the billionaire owners that

This is disingenuous. 

$200-$300 Million vs. Billions.  To people making <$40,000 and struggling to make ends meet, does it really matter?  At this point, both of them are the haves. 

Minor leaguers... or at least the ones that didn't get gigantic bonuses, you have a case for.   Right now, though, Freddy Galvis will make more this year than I will in my entire working life.  And I'm doing better than many in this country.
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: Rome on February 18, 2019, 06:21:29 PM
Iím just a tad right of Leon Trotsky when it comes to economics, but somehow that simpleton has me sympathizing with the ďplightĒ of billionaires.

It really is funny.
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: MDS on February 18, 2019, 06:50:12 PM
This is disingenuous. 

$200-$300 Million vs. Billions.  To people making <$40,000 and struggling to make ends meet, does it really matter?  At this point, both of them are the haves. 

Minor leaguers... or at least the ones that didn't get gigantic bonuses, you have a case for.   Right now, though, Freddy Galvis will make more this year than I will in my entire working life.  And I'm doing better than many in this country.

i dont even know what this means....everybody should fight for every penny theyre worth. bryce getting 2 million more vs. john middleton keeping 2 million. who ya got? the answer is who cares but if im bryce i want those 2 extra bills.

the economics of the game are broken and a strike might be forthcoming. i dont doubt that and would love to see everyone go to bat for the career minor leaguers and fringe players who need union backing and power more than the established players who are haggling over 35 and 30 million do. 

i will never side with business over labor, i dont care if labor makes millions. power to the people.
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: Munson on February 18, 2019, 06:55:25 PM
Speaking of which:
https://twitter.com/whatwouldDOOdo/status/1097565028142796801

Sean Doolittle the GOAT
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: Munson on February 18, 2019, 06:57:42 PM
This shtein, however...
https://twitter.com/whatwouldDOOdo/status/1097565028142796801


Pay your damn taxes, millionaires.
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on February 18, 2019, 11:50:39 PM
i know the pro management mentality had a hold on MAGA chuds, trump apologists and geriatric fake liberals like romey...but they even have the j's of the world now

sad reality

Management can farg off too. Iíll side with players most of the time especially when it comes to labor issues for the most part.
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on February 18, 2019, 11:52:52 PM
This shtein, however...
https://twitter.com/whatwouldDOOdo/status/1097565028142796801


Pay your damn taxes, millionaires.

Ugh. Iím a new era fanboy. Legit love their hats.
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on February 18, 2019, 11:53:43 PM
Iím so proud that youíve grown into a jaded, bitter old farger.

😆

Lol Iím almost 40! Time for me to get salty.
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: Munson on February 19, 2019, 09:28:08 AM
This shtein, however...
https://twitter.com/whatwouldDOOdo/status/1097565028142796801


Pay your damn taxes, millionaires.

Ugh. Iím a new era fanboy. Legit love their hats.

Ah I farged up the second tweet...this one was supposed to be how Manny and Harper are getting loopholes in their contracts so they donít have to pay state taxes on millions of dollars. farg that shtein
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: QB Eagles on February 19, 2019, 09:49:34 AM
Ah I farged up the second tweet...this one was supposed to be how Manny and Harper are getting loopholes in their contracts so they donít have to pay state taxes on millions of dollars. farg that shtein

How would that even be possible? I understand the "loophole" of the teams effectively paying the state tax with a bigger check. Two private entities can't draw up a contract that cancels out state taxes though.

You sure this wasn't about the teams avoiding the MLB "luxury tax"?
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: Munson on February 19, 2019, 10:00:22 AM
Nah it was something about signing bonuses and them being taxed on where they live (income tax free states) vs where they would be working. Now im gonna have to find the damn tweet
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: Munson on February 19, 2019, 10:01:57 AM
https://twitter.com/sportstaxman/status/1097641126968860674 21

I guess there are rules around signing bonuses and deferred comp that can avoid state taxes if the language is written right?
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: MDS on February 19, 2019, 11:16:31 AM
Management can farg off too. Iíll side with players most of the time especially when it comes to labor issues for the most part.

fred wilpon deserves another yacht
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: AO1 on February 19, 2019, 12:33:32 PM
Machadoís a Padre
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: ice grillin you on February 19, 2019, 12:40:53 PM
lol if the padres get one of these guys and the phillies dont
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: ice grillin you on February 19, 2019, 12:58:55 PM
busta bus is at nats camp today and was just live on espn saying he is getting zero sense that the nats are getting back in the harper sweepstakes

this is good cause I always thought and still kinda do that he wasn't leaving there

like everyone else he favors the phillies but says watch out for the white sox now that they lost out on machado
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: Rome on February 19, 2019, 01:08:28 PM
San Diego is one of the most beautiful places on the planet.  He could have done worse. 

Thatís a shtein load of money for them to pay out, though.  If heís worth that, Trout might be worth half a billion over ten.

PS: Good for Manny. 
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: MDS on February 19, 2019, 01:18:38 PM
like everyone else he favors the phillies but says watch out for the white sox now that they lost out on machado

white sox wouldnt get to 300 for machado

if the phillies get outbid by them and lose machado to SD they should take away the 08 world series
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: ice grillin you on February 19, 2019, 04:36:54 PM
im not saying chi is or isnt getting harper but harper is worth more than machado and you tend to spend more once you lose the first chip...mannys 300 doesn't have a ton to do with harper

I still think he goes back to wash
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: Rome on February 19, 2019, 06:38:49 PM
10/375 for Harper based on that deal.  Only 1 team will pay it. 
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: AO1 on February 19, 2019, 06:41:38 PM

I still think he goes back to wash

Always thought this as well. Phils are being used
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: Rome on February 19, 2019, 06:45:06 PM
By the Nats?   Thatís just dumb.  Boras has a lot at stake with the Phillies.  Heís not going to use them like that for a single client. 
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: AO1 on February 19, 2019, 06:47:53 PM
By the Nats?   Thatís just dumb.  Boras has a lot at stake with the Phillies.  Heís not going to use them like that for a single client.

Heís using every team at his disposal but the Phillies are the team most linked...ultimately I donít think Harper wants to leave the Nats so anything not above and beyond what theyíre offering heís probably staying.
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: Don Ho on February 19, 2019, 06:49:10 PM
White Sox front office is pissed! 

The Chicago #WhiteSox's final offer to Manny Machado was an eight-year, $250 million guarantee with a $35 million option in 2027 a $35 million option in 2028, making the potential total worth $320 million. The option years vested with 550 plate appearances the previous season
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: QB Eagles on February 19, 2019, 08:55:07 PM
Options in years 9 and 10 don't mean shtein. The whole point of signing these decade contracts instead of a series of short term contracts is to get them to pay big bucks for your Albert Pujols years at the end. And by 2028, $35 million might be the average house price in San Diego anyway.

On the off chance Machado is still a high functioning baseball player at that point, someone else will be glad to pay him that on a short-term deal.
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: ice grillin you on February 19, 2019, 10:18:12 PM
Machado has an out after 5 years anyway
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: Geowhizzer on February 19, 2019, 10:58:28 PM
So Cole Irvin is starting the first game of spring training for the Fightin' Phils.  Just one question:  Who's Cole Irvin?
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: ice grillin you on February 20, 2019, 08:42:26 AM
this isnt saying much in the phillies system but hes the most major league ready lefty SP they have

i actually saw him pitch with reading summer before last....looked like a junk throwing weakling to me...kinda reminded me of a young jamie moyer
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: MDS on February 20, 2019, 08:51:33 AM
hes not even on their 40 man

they called up ranger suarez and de los santos last year for spot starts over him....irvin might get a crack this year but he tops out at fringe starter
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: AO1 on February 20, 2019, 08:03:05 PM
Hopefully he can survive socialism

Quote
Yhoswar Garcia, OF, Venezuela
Team: Phillies

Garcia has an exciting tool set in a lean, athletic 6-foot frame. He's a plus-plus runner who defends his position well in center field with a strong arm. He's a righthanded hitter who has also performed well in games against professional pitching, with a hit-over-power offensive profile. If he retains his speed and keeps hitting the way he has recently, he could develop into a player along the lines of Nationals center fielder Victor Robles. Garcia trains with Roberto Vahlis.
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: Don Ho on February 21, 2019, 12:33:38 AM
And by 2028, $35 million might be the average house price in San Diego anyway.

 :-D :-D :-D
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: ice grillin you on February 21, 2019, 05:40:14 AM
hes not even on their 40 man

that's cause he has no upside like some others
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: Geowhizzer on February 21, 2019, 07:34:23 PM
https://twitter.com/CRicchini/status/1098739759197929472
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: MDS on February 21, 2019, 08:22:57 PM
the twitter chatter is that word will leak tomorrow just before the machado presser as a boras FU to lozano

i just want this to be over so whatever just do it
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: ice grillin you on February 21, 2019, 09:33:27 PM
lol at Twitter chatter

you do realize that 99% of tweets are fake news

tell me you know this?
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: MDS on February 21, 2019, 11:02:29 PM
i dont respond to that term, trumper
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: ice grillin you on February 22, 2019, 07:58:58 AM
unless it links to a fact based article all tweets are pretty much bullshtein
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: ice grillin you on February 22, 2019, 10:13:33 AM
ďWe havenít heard from them (Boras and Co.) in a couple monthsĒ - Mark Lerner
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: MDS on February 22, 2019, 07:30:45 PM
1-0
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: AO1 on February 22, 2019, 09:15:36 PM
https://www.nbcsports.com/philadelphia/phillies/jet-belonging-phillies-owner-john-middleton-bryce-harpers-hometown-las-vegas
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: ice grillin you on February 23, 2019, 07:59:45 AM
how bad does Harper not want to go to philly

after four months of free agency when basically every other team has dropped out the Phillies still have to fly an owner across the country to persuade him during a farging ďmeet n greetĒ
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: ice grillin you on February 23, 2019, 08:00:33 AM
Nm
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: Rome on February 23, 2019, 08:07:23 AM
Itís embarrassing that a billionaire several times over has to fly 2,500 miles to beg a guy to take $350,000,000 (or more) to play there. 

The longer it goes the worse it looks for everyone.   Harper better get his farging laundry dirty and run out every groundout if he does sign.  Otherwise...  yikes. 
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: AO1 on February 23, 2019, 08:12:42 AM
I wish the Phils would just back off. Donít want to play here then peace out, go sign with someone else. Use the money to sign Kuechel.
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: ice grillin you on February 23, 2019, 09:40:14 AM
I still want him but Iím leaning further and further to that side...might be time to move on rather than give 300+ million to guy that doesnít wanna be here
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: MDS on February 23, 2019, 09:48:33 AM
bryce's ego is too big for him to dog it if he signs here....if hes signs hes IN.....but if he hasnt signed yet despite nobody else wanting him i dont know if he ever will
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: ice grillin you on February 23, 2019, 10:20:09 AM
dogging it isnít the issue

being miserable is
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: AO1 on February 23, 2019, 10:22:00 AM
I still want him but Iím leaning further and further to that side...might be time to move on rather than give 300+ million to guy that doesnít wanna be here

Harper = asses in the seats

Thatís the bottom line in all of this, Phils donít have a marquee player. As much as I like their offseason none of the names they added are stars. 2020 FA pitching market is stacked, would rather spend the money on another stud then put up with this bullshtein.
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: Munson on February 23, 2019, 12:03:41 PM
Iím with SD on this, donít even want Harper at this point. Heíd be miserable after two years and want out.
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: ice grillin you on February 23, 2019, 01:54:28 PM
Andrew McCutchen on why he signed with Phillies: ďDid you see what they offered me?Ē
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: Geowhizzer on February 23, 2019, 09:29:51 PM
https://twitter.com/JClarkNBCS/status/1099491749578317825
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: Rome on February 24, 2019, 07:49:44 AM
Ha.  J-Roll really is the GOAT.  That look was pure awesomeness. 
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: Rome on February 24, 2019, 07:58:57 AM
dogging it isnít the issue

being miserable is

Ask the 2008 core guys how miserable it was playing there for five years with sellouts every night and winning a lot being the key component.  Philly is a great town to play in if youíre the right sort of guy.  I have to admit I (like many others) despised Harper when he was a Nat, but I actually believe heíd love it there.   The park is ideally suited for him, itís a big city/major market with only one baseball team, and the fans will love him if he plays up to the insane deal heís about to sign.

Itís going to get done, guys.  I think this last bit of wrangling is actually about buyout language just in case it goes horribly wrong on either side.  Money is literally no object.
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: Rome on February 25, 2019, 08:37:11 AM
Now the Chuggies are offering a short term deal. 
Title: Re: Phillies 18
Post by: AO1 on February 25, 2019, 09:14:03 AM
Harper is a Phillie.  Iím calling it. 

Someone get Jay some smiling salts.

Mush

Dodgers make sense for him, heís where he wants to be and can renegotiate in a few years. Instead of jerking him off and playing the Boras game the Dodgers sat back and kept their cards close to their vest to see how this played out. 99% sure he always wanted to play in LA but they used the Phillies for leverage. Maybe Iím wrong here - wouldnít be the first time - but if he hasnít signed by now after all the effort the Phillies put in thereís a reason beyond money.
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on February 25, 2019, 11:18:45 AM
Bryce Harper is a ho and has been since he was a teenager
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: Geowhizzer on February 25, 2019, 11:31:13 AM
I'm at the point where I could not care less whether the Phils signed him or not.  They obviously could use the talent, but I'm not sure at this point if it wouldn't be outweighed by the drama.

Just looking forward to watching some baseball again.
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: MDS on February 25, 2019, 11:35:43 AM
this is all boras' doing...bryce is just along for the ride
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: ice grillin you on February 25, 2019, 11:45:03 AM
Bryce Harper is a ho and has been since he was a teenager

haha
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: MDS on February 25, 2019, 12:22:00 PM
j stopped watching sports a year or 2 ago but his decade long hatred of bryce remains

its one thing to hate the guy for his MAGAness and douche hair...j bird hates him because of something or other his dad did for him when he was 15. its mind boggling.
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: Rome on February 25, 2019, 01:23:23 PM
If Boras used Middleton like that there will be fallout.  Billionaires donít like being farged with and they sure as hell donít like being used like a cum sock by some shyster agent. 

If you think things are ugly between labor and ownership now, just watch how bad it gets if thatís going on. 
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: ice grillin you on February 25, 2019, 01:36:14 PM
john middleton might have the least sway in the history of billionaires
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: AO1 on February 25, 2019, 02:56:59 PM
john middleton might have the least sway in the history of billionaires

lol...exactly...Iím sure Boras is quaking in his gold plated boots
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: Munson on February 26, 2019, 10:52:39 PM
https://twitter.com/randyjmiller/status/1100510574146961408 21

Go away Bryce, hope they get Arenado and Trout the next couple years
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: QB Eagles on February 26, 2019, 11:35:48 PM
That tweet smells like pure bullshtein, but at some point, "stupid money" becomes actually stupid.
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: Rome on February 27, 2019, 04:35:29 PM
I canít wait to see the reaction the first time Harper steps foot on the field in Philly as a Giant or Dodger.   If Drew had batteries thrown at him, what will Harper get - toaster ovens, running chainsaws, bowling balls lit on fire?

Also - Iím pretty sure Middleton will remember the treatment he received by Boras.  He screwed his own sister out of a fortune, so a leech like Boras better keep his head up. 
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: Munson on February 27, 2019, 04:45:18 PM
Well, Arenado is off the table now anyway. Sigh.
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on February 27, 2019, 11:46:55 PM
I canít wait to see the reaction the first time Harper steps foot on the field in Philly as a Giant or Dodger.   If Drew had batteries thrown at him, what will Harper get - toaster ovens, running chainsaws, bowling balls lit on fire?

Also - Iím pretty sure Middleton will remember the treatment he received by Boras.  He screwed his own sister out of a fortune, so a leech like Boras better keep his head up.

I just pictured some Delco douche launching a chainsaw onto the field and canít stop laughing
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: ice grillin you on February 28, 2019, 07:44:17 AM
I canít wait to see the reaction the first time Harper steps foot on the field in Philly as a Giant or Dodger.   If Drew had batteries thrown at him, what will Harper get - toaster ovens, running chainsaws, bowling balls lit on fire?

Also - Iím pretty sure Middleton will remember the treatment he received by Boras.  He screwed his own sister out of a fortune, so a leech like Boras better keep his head up.

boras would eat middletons whole family for lunch....they are not in the same league which is why middleton got played like a fiddle

phillies have money but otherwise everything else about them screams des moines

and the 4000 phillie fans that go to games aint gonna do shtein to harper cept watch him fire bombs in the bank just like jayson werth did
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: Rome on February 28, 2019, 12:40:35 PM
And youíll cheer every last one of them as they go out. 

farging troll. 
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on February 28, 2019, 02:59:10 PM
***fart noise***

Welcome to Philly, Brycie. Hit better that .250 please.
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on February 28, 2019, 03:02:09 PM
13yrs
$330m

No opt outs
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: AO1 on February 28, 2019, 03:04:23 PM
13yrs
$330m

No opt outs

Holy shtein never thoughtíd happen

Jay what size jersey do you take?
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: Rome on February 28, 2019, 03:06:31 PM
Yay
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: Geowhizzer on February 28, 2019, 03:12:56 PM
Quote from: Son of Geowhizzer
HE'S OURS

Text that interrupted my (unusually) quietly testing last period class.
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: phattymatty on February 28, 2019, 03:28:55 PM
I don't know shtein about how baseball contracts work but i imagine being guaranteed for 13 years is pretty solid for a baseball player.
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: Rome on February 28, 2019, 03:39:29 PM
I havenít seen that anywhere.  Thatís only 25M and change.  No way he took that. 
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: smeags on February 28, 2019, 03:44:13 PM
its everywhere. how did you miss it ?
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: AO1 on February 28, 2019, 03:45:23 PM
its everywhere. how did you miss it ?

Senility
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: Rome on February 28, 2019, 03:46:14 PM
I havenít seen the numbers breakdown.  Iím working you cockholes.   🖕🏻🖕🏻
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: smeags on February 28, 2019, 03:48:08 PM
its everywhere. how did you miss it ?

Senility

exactly.
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: smeags on February 28, 2019, 03:49:37 PM
Iím working you cockholes.   🖕🏻🖕🏻

I call BS on this post.
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: Rome on February 28, 2019, 03:49:42 PM
I just read Borasís comments about the length.  Iím legit surprised Harper wanted to end his career on one contract.  It might turn out to be the bargain of the century in five or six years.  Or an utter catastrophe.  But probably a bargain. 
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: QB Eagles on February 28, 2019, 03:54:03 PM
It might turn out to be the bargain of the century in five or six years.  Or an utter catastrophe.  But probably a bargain. 

This is a Philadelphia sports team we're talking about here. I assume the age 35+ years are gonna hurt. My only question is how early this contract could realistically be seen as a nightmare.

As for this season, the Phillies made enough quality moves to trick me into being interested. Well done you bastiches.
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: MDS on February 28, 2019, 03:59:10 PM
This is a Philadelphia sports team we're talking about here. I assume the age 35+ years are gonna hurt. My only question is how early this contract could realistically be seen as a nightmare.

march 2019

but legit i dont care this is why sports is fun...its ONLY $25 mil for the next 13 years. what could go wrong?
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: smeags on February 28, 2019, 04:00:31 PM
It might turn out to be the bargain of the century in five or six years.  Or an utter catastrophe.  But probably a bargain. 

This is a Philadelphia sports team we're talking about here. I assume the age 35+ years are gonna hurt. My only question is how early this contract could realistically be seen as a nightmare.


NL will prob have the DH soon enough. that should help done the road.
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: AO1 on February 28, 2019, 04:40:54 PM
The Mets will still be paying the Bobby Bonilla deal 4 years after Harpers contract expires
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on February 28, 2019, 08:45:34 PM
13yrs
$330m

No opt outs

Holy shtein never thoughtíd happen

Jay what size jersey do you take?


Lol

Xxl - wonder which number heís gonna wear
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: Munson on February 28, 2019, 08:48:01 PM
#54
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: MDS on February 28, 2019, 09:35:13 PM
yo j paypal or cash app ya boi $60 for mlb tv...if you still like the phillies
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: Don Ho on February 28, 2019, 10:34:52 PM
The Mets will still be paying the Bobby Bonilla deal 4 years after Harpers contract expires

This always puts a smile on my face.
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: Don Ho on February 28, 2019, 10:36:06 PM
#54

 :-D
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on February 28, 2019, 10:50:03 PM
#54

Nice lol
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on February 28, 2019, 10:52:13 PM
yo j paypal or cash app ya boi $60 for mlb tv...if you still like the phillies

I think I might get it for free this year bc season ticket holders with the Astros get it. Im the one who runs our account so I gotta read the email. If not then Iíll send it to ya so I can watch and hope Harper isnít Gregg Jefferies or Danny Tartabull
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: Geowhizzer on March 01, 2019, 06:51:26 AM
Warning:  Click the link in the tweet at your own risk.  Eye bleach may be necessary.

https://twitter.com/JArrieta34/status/1101216574982172672
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: MDS on March 01, 2019, 09:42:41 AM
the tick tock from verducci: https://www.si.com/mlb/2019/03/01/bryce-harper-philadelphia-phillies-contract-scott-boras

Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: ice grillin you on March 01, 2019, 09:46:27 AM
nice article from MM


Quote
CLEARWATER,​ Fla. ó The cheering started sporadically​ down the left field​ line at Spectrum​ Field.

Amid​ a meaningless​ spring training​ game​​ Thursday afternoon, the news Phillies fans have anxiously waited for broke on Twitter: Bryce Harper had agreed to a 13-year, $330 million contract with Philadelphia. It is the largest guaranteed contract in American professional sports history. One Phillies fan yelled, ďBryce, woo!Ē after discovering the news. Another started a ďBry-ce Har-per!Ē chant. The ballpark buzzed.

Four fans sitting behind the coachesí seats next to the on-deck circle provided moment-by-moment updates to Phillies manager Gabe Kapler and pitching coach Chris Young.

ďThey were telling us terms and who was tweeting what,Ē Kapler said. ďWe were like, ĎWell, whoís making the reports?í Weíve got to make sure this person is credible. Ö They were holding their phones up so I could turn around and see the (tweets).Ē

Fittingly, the Philliesí starting right fielder this afternoon informed teammates of Harperís deal. Trevor Plouffe entered the clubhouse after being replaced in the fifth inning, grabbed a bottle of water and decided to check Twitter before working out. News of Harperís record contract filled his feed. Plouffe alerted the handful of players who lingered in the clubhouse, including pitchers Aaron Nola, Nick Pivetta and Zach Eflin.

ďSeriously?Ē Nola replied.

ďThe first thing we all thought was 13 years is a long time,Ē Plouffe said. ďBut obviously he thinks this is a place he can come and establish himself and look to win a World Series every year. Thatís why he was in that position. He could sign anywhere he wanted to and for him to choose the Phillies and the city of Philadelphia speaks volumes for the way things are going and trending here.Ē

Nola and Harper faced off 36 times over the past four years. Now, instead of torturing Phillies fans at Citizens Bank Park, where he owns a .365 on-base percentage and .930 OPS with 14 home runs in 50 career games, Harper will get to put on a show for them. Any future battles with Nola will have to be resigned to live batting practice. Nolaís happy with that trade-off.

ďHeís one of those guys in the lineup who can change the ballgame Ė he can change a ballgame with one swing,Ē Nola said.

ďUltimately, at the end of the day, itís his decision. We canít control that. Weíre just glad heís with us now. Ö Heís coming to a good fan base. Heís coming to an organization that cares about their players, families.Ē

Hours earlier, Phillies managing partner John Middleton stood by the half field next to the complexís office entrance. He was casually observing pregame infield drills, what would end up being some of his last calm moments before the ensuing Harper-inspired excitement engulfed a fan base and energized the team.

Harperís deal is a triumph for Middleton. The organizationís financial power was always going to be difficult for other organizations to contend with, and he delivered in luring a 26-year-old superstar to Philadelphia. These type of mega-free-agent deals donít happen without ownershipís involvement and approval. Middleton signaled his seriousness with a trip to Las Vegas last Friday to meet with Harper, his wife and agent Scott Boras, though the groundwork for Middletonís commitment to building a winner began last offseason.

Eleven months and 15 days ago, Middleton watched Jake Arrieta put on his new red Phillies jersey at the right-handerís introductory press conference in Clearwater. Arrietaís $75 million guaranteed contract is part of $507.75 million the Phillies have spent on seven free agents in the past two offseasons. They also gave Nola a $45 million extension and took on the $60.4 million remaining on shortstop Jean Seguraís contract. Nobody can claim the Phillies donít spend money.

ďI think it sends a message,Ē Middleton said on that morning last March. ďIt should. If I were sitting on another team, Iíd say, hmm, these guys seem to be serious about this. Ö Weíre serious about winning and weíre going to do what it takes to win.Ē

Middletonís ďstupidĒ money comment could have haunted him this offseason. Some Phillies fans would not have easily forgiven ownership and the front office had the franchise missed out on both Manny Machado and Harper. Instead, Harper ó who has a no-trade clause and no opt outs in the contract, according to sources ó is positioned to be a Phillie for the rest of his career.

Middleton, meanwhile, is building an image as an owner for whom money is no object in creating a winner. Middleton has been a limited partner in the Philliesí ownership group since 1994, holding a 48 percent stake in the franchise. He was chosen as the teamís control person and managing partner in November 2016. Attracting a superstar in Harper legitimizes Middletonís vision.

ďHereís a newsflash for you: John wants to win,Ē team president Andy MacPhail said on Feb. 15. ďAll of our ownership group wants to win.Ē

Middleton and the front office have given Kapler and his staff the personnel to succeed. On paper, the Philliesí lineup is one of the best in the league. Another September collapse clearly wonít be acceptable. Making the playoffs becomes a requirement. Winning the National League East title for the first time since 2011 is the standard; capturing the pennant and reaching the World Series is a realistic goal. With Harper in the fold, the pressure rises to deliver. The Phillies are in win-now mode.

ďWe all want to be on that platform, the biggest platform in the game and thatís the World Series,Ē Eflin said. ďFor an addition like this, itís definitely going to help that journey. Everybody in this clubhouse is ready to do that.Ē
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: ice grillin you on March 01, 2019, 10:16:49 AM
i dont know why this kinda shocks me but bryce harper is a year younger than mike trout

when trout is eligible for FA next he will be three years older than harper is now

just shows you how rare it is to have two guys as young and as good as harper and machado to be FA
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: smeags on March 01, 2019, 10:53:36 AM
The Mets will still be paying the Bobby Bonilla deal 4 years after Harpers contract expires

I tossed that lil bit of info to diehard yesterday. he re-acted in true mets fan fashion.
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: ice grillin you on March 01, 2019, 11:15:29 AM
mets are also paying bret saberhagen until 2029
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: AO1 on March 01, 2019, 12:59:58 PM
mets are also paying bret saberhagen until 2029

Daryll Strawberry too although his debt was auctioned off by the IRS and is being paid out in monthly increments.

The Bonilla deferred payments were because the Mets ownership were making so much money in Madoffís ponzi scheme.
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: MDS on March 01, 2019, 01:24:40 PM
theres zero doubt they are going for trout in 2 years or that trout wants to come home...will it work who knows

but heres the thing: you can't have trout, harper, realmuto and hoskins all aging horribly in their mid 30s and all make a bunch of money. something's gotta give unless you want the worst team in baseball in 2028
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: ice grillin you on March 01, 2019, 01:28:31 PM
does it really matter if they win a couple of world series

really even if they dont does it matter...i mean if they go bust with harper then who the farg cares if they suck at the end of his deal...all people are going to care about is how they never won in his prime

they are going to more than likely suck no matter what then....its whats they do in harpers 26 to 34 (and hopefully trouts 29-34) seasons that matters
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: MDS on March 01, 2019, 01:31:50 PM
i dont think this front office is going to sign themselves up for multiple seasons of bad baseball in exchange for a 4-5 year window. you can put a good team on the diamond even with a washed up trout/harper in 2029....you cant if youre also still paying a washed up realmuto and hoskins

obviously this upcoming window, with or without trout, is the chance, but they dont want it to be like it was post 2011 where you have 6 seasons in the wilderness
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: AO1 on March 01, 2019, 01:34:45 PM
theres zero doubt they are going for trout in 2 years or that trout wants to come home...will it work who knows

but heres the thing: you can't have trout, harper, realmuto and hoskins all aging horribly in their mid 30s and all make a bunch of money. something's gotta give unless you want the worst team in baseball in 2028

Nobody in their right mind is signing a 27 year old catcher for 10 years.
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: MDS on March 01, 2019, 01:43:27 PM
im speaking in broad terms here mardigrassi....4 guys in their 30's all making big $ is not ideal.
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: Munson on March 01, 2019, 02:30:27 PM
https://twitter.com/espn/status/1101555470110769153 21
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: AO1 on March 01, 2019, 04:21:53 PM
im speaking in broad terms here mardigrassi....4 guys in their 30's all making big $ is not ideal.

Youíre speaking in broad terms but said mid-30ís? Thatís not so broad.
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: MDS on March 01, 2019, 05:34:08 PM
here's an unbroad term for you...vegas trash is here

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D0muLi8W0AA1AaB.jpg)
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: AO1 on March 01, 2019, 07:04:44 PM
Itís hilarious heís a Mormon
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: Geowhizzer on March 01, 2019, 08:47:16 PM
Apparently Harper will take #3 with the Phils.
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: QB Eagles on March 01, 2019, 08:49:06 PM
Those shorts should've stayed in Vegas.
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: AO1 on March 01, 2019, 08:49:25 PM
Somehow someway I think he rings the bell tomorrow night
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on March 02, 2019, 12:03:45 AM
Whose the clown in the swim trunks
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: Geowhizzer on March 02, 2019, 08:46:23 AM
https://twitter.com/Phillies/status/1101837521258975232
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: ice grillin you on March 02, 2019, 09:04:12 AM
that photo is why ufc is more popular than baseball
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: Rome on March 02, 2019, 09:09:45 AM
It's a bit early for you to be hitting the sauce, no?
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: MDS on March 02, 2019, 10:48:58 AM
i knew bryce was MAGA trash but that pic really hit it home

maybe in 13 years he will be a fishtown hipster
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: Geowhizzer on March 02, 2019, 11:42:23 AM
What a difference 15 months makes.

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D0qlJqYXQAIhdxM.jpg)
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: MDS on March 02, 2019, 02:12:30 PM
bryce's mom has to be a former vegas stripper...there's no other way
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: Rome on March 03, 2019, 11:19:36 AM
https://www.philly.com/phillies/bryce-harper-phillies-contract-john-middleton-scott-boras-details-20190303.html

Pretty impressive stuff for a guy who holds the distinction of having the least sway in the history of billionaires.
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: MDS on March 03, 2019, 07:48:47 PM
hes going to be awesome on the dodgers this year
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: Rome on March 03, 2019, 08:20:05 PM
Angels not Dodgers. 

#tradeeverythingfortrout
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: ice grillin you on March 04, 2019, 11:45:57 AM
Angels not Dodgers. 

#tradeeverythingfortrout

trout without harper would be anti productive
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: MDS on March 04, 2019, 01:13:42 PM
saturday is harper day
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: Rome on March 04, 2019, 01:20:44 PM
Angels not Dodgers. 

#tradeeverythingfortrout

trout without harper would be anti productive

Actually yes but me and the kid were trading barbs. 
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: ice grillin you on March 04, 2019, 01:22:41 PM
saturday is harper day

do i get props for buying seats in the right field stands for the home opener three months ago?
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: MDS on March 04, 2019, 02:01:38 PM
you get props then immediately get them taken away because your negative presence will surely lead to a 9-3 loss where nola gets shelled and harper goes 0-3 with a walk.
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: ice grillin you on March 04, 2019, 02:06:30 PM
without question cept you forgot harper definitely having an error
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: ice grillin you on March 04, 2019, 02:47:43 PM
Quote
Anyone can call the Phillies. The number to the Citizens Bank Park offices is available, and most of the incoming calls are directed to the ticket sales staff. Sometimes, they are not. Bryce Harper was trending on Twitter on Jan. 29 because a social media account for a video game trolled Phillies fans. At least a dozen people called the ballpark offices that day asking if the Phillies had signed Harper. Kids, mostly.

Those conversations end at the reception desk. But, sometimes, a call is too good to not relay upstairs. A few days after the Eagles lost to the Saints in the postseason, a man called the ballpark. He was upset, and said he was a smoking a bong with some friends. ďOpen the checkbook and sign Bryce!Ē he told a receptionist.

That anecdote reached the executive level.
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: MDS on March 04, 2019, 04:17:53 PM
its scary how much better gelb is than the other phillies writers.

hes going to be gone soon to cover mlb nationally
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: Rome on March 04, 2019, 07:10:04 PM
So heíll be up in smoke then?
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: Rome on March 08, 2019, 01:32:10 PM
Tickets for seats tomorrow are a wee bit expensive.  Like double-triple face value.  Wow. 
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: ice grillin you on March 08, 2019, 02:40:47 PM
sports fans have never proven to be the smartest people

and that pays a penny over face to see a spring training at bat is a fargtard
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: MDS on March 08, 2019, 04:04:16 PM
i just looked and its still $20 for those OF seats...seats around home plate are $100. they are like $60 for sunday's game in the o's park.
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: Rome on March 08, 2019, 05:42:43 PM
Iím going to the Oís game.  I had tickets for that since January. 

And youíre not paying for the quality, Havas.   The party is what makes it fun. 
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: ice grillin you on March 08, 2019, 07:03:34 PM
i get the spring training fun thing...ive been a few times...its awesome...but you can have the same amount of fun without paying double the ticket price for a bryce harper at bat

save your money and go to see them on a tuesday against the braves

then pay whatever for 9 innings of a bryce harper regular season game

i got right field for the home opener and am working on right field for the nats return opener...then i got the second nats game....jimmy number retirement...three may games in wrigley and two may games in milwaukee....so ill spend the money i just wouldnt go nuts to see him get his timing down in clearwater
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: Geowhizzer on March 08, 2019, 07:50:07 PM
Just bought two against the Blue Jays for during my spring break.

Should I buy a Harper shirsey?  :D
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: Rome on March 08, 2019, 08:13:43 PM
Iíd save my money for the $9 beers at the park and the strippers at Mons Venus afterward.
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: QB Eagles on March 08, 2019, 08:27:51 PM
Still blowing my mind this guy is locked in to be a Phillie for 13 fargin years. I get that some people want to be there for the beginning of what could be a 30 for 30, good or bad, but unless he somehow tears an Achilles nothing special is gonna happen there in Game 1.
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: Geowhizzer on March 09, 2019, 11:49:38 AM
I'll be watching this today.

(https://media1.tenor.com/images/efefe9388fbc81910a13104f188e906f/tenor.gif)
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on March 09, 2019, 12:38:41 PM
Whatís the date of Jimmys number retirement
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: MDS on March 09, 2019, 12:40:22 PM
mid 2000s j >>>>>>>> (size of the galaxy) post eagles super bowl j
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: ice grillin you on March 09, 2019, 12:42:38 PM
Whatís the date of Jimmys number retirement

May 4
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: MDS on March 09, 2019, 05:58:33 PM
i cant wait for all these people going to the bank to see bryce hit bombs realize he walks in like 35% of his at bats
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: Rome on March 10, 2019, 09:07:36 AM
I've seen my share of bombs hit in that stadium (Choke hit one to Route 19 once) but Hoskins' shot yesterday was a freaking laser beam.   

Between Harper and Hoskins they might end up with 250 walks (they had 4 yesterday).

Jean Segura is the real deal at short.  The play he made in the first was ridiculous.

I know it's early but we might be in for a fun summer and fall. 
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on March 10, 2019, 01:44:46 PM
mid 2000s j >>>>>>>> (size of the galaxy) post eagles super bowl j

A litttle truth to this. Iíll work my fervor back up eventually. Probably if the Phils donít make the NLCS at least.
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on March 10, 2019, 01:45:03 PM
Whatís the date of Jimmys number retirement

May 4

farg.

Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on March 13, 2019, 07:36:14 PM
Mariners sent JP to AAA
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: MDS on March 13, 2019, 08:09:10 PM
this is the kind of trade the phillies make, not do to another team
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: AO1 on March 15, 2019, 03:05:56 PM
Harper got hit by a pitch in the ankle and limped off the field. Didnít look good

https://mobile.twitter.com/NBCSPhilly/status/1106627762348089349?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Etweet
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: Munson on March 15, 2019, 03:41:56 PM
Certainly didnít sound good...jesus
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: Don Ho on March 17, 2019, 09:11:05 PM
Got to see Adam Morgan and Hector pitch today.  Felt like August 2018.
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: Geowhizzer on March 17, 2019, 09:32:47 PM
Glad to see Harper be able to play today.  Now for him to get his timing down.
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on March 18, 2019, 08:23:16 PM
The video game story is not shocking.

Props to Santana for busting the TV

Thumbs down to Kapler for allowing it
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: QB Eagles on March 18, 2019, 08:42:24 PM
Who cares, at least someone was enjoying those late season games.
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: General_Failure on March 18, 2019, 11:22:56 PM
Can you blame them for trying to play a game together where they have a chance of winning?
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: MDS on March 19, 2019, 09:26:17 AM
Thumbs down to Kapler for allowing it

he didnt allow it so much as create an atmosphere where it could happen

regardless this is on the 2 players who did it. they should know its not a good look but millenials gonna fortnight
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: AO1 on March 19, 2019, 10:31:30 AM
Probably belongs in ROB but Trout is about to sign a 12 year $430 million deal with the Angels. Canít say I blame him for taking that deal
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: Geowhizzer on March 19, 2019, 10:43:14 AM
Probably belongs in ROB but Trout is about to sign a 12 year $430 million deal with the Angels. Canít say I blame him for taking that deal

(https://media1.tenor.com/images/a7f4f04ed9e53ff59c3de29f861d458e/tenor.gif?itemid=3555049)

Money's crazy now.  Can't blame him at all for taking it.  He'd be a fool if he didn't.
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: Munson on March 19, 2019, 11:00:19 AM
Noooooooo
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: Rome on March 19, 2019, 01:03:52 PM
Good for him even if itís bad for us. 
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: Don Ho on March 19, 2019, 05:52:58 PM
Negative = sucks for us

Positive = he's not a Yankee, Red Sox and more importantly a Dodger, Met or anywhere in the NL
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: QB Eagles on March 19, 2019, 08:29:03 PM
If the Phillies want to have a Mike Trout, they have to learn how to draft and coach a Mike Trout.
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on March 19, 2019, 08:35:02 PM
Sucks that Trout is signed. Dream squashed.

On another note - who were the video game players?
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: MDS on March 20, 2019, 09:57:52 AM
*creams pants*

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D2GpUKyWwAAYrCx.jpg)
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: AO1 on March 20, 2019, 02:43:08 PM
Bobby Abreu next up for the wall of fame
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: Geowhizzer on March 20, 2019, 02:47:09 PM
I hope that the Phils get this craptastic offensive game out of their system before the regular season.  Or maybe by tomorrow when the son and I are headed north to Clearwater to see the game.

And apparently Hoskins is nursing some shoulder injury.  They're playing it down (the whole "no structural damage" thing), but it's something to keep an eye on.  He's out until at least the weekend.
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: Rome on March 20, 2019, 04:49:31 PM
Next up: Bake McBride
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: Don Ho on March 20, 2019, 05:13:28 PM
please reference Haloti Ngata thread.
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: Don Ho on March 20, 2019, 05:14:08 PM
when is Joe Table up for Wall of Fame discussion?
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: Geowhizzer on March 20, 2019, 05:38:07 PM
Next up: Bake McBride

Just for this, damn straight.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qIwRFRLDxnQ
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: ice grillin you on March 20, 2019, 06:37:01 PM
man did pivetta look good today
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: Geowhizzer on March 20, 2019, 06:53:44 PM
man did pivetta look good today

His last two outings were really good.  If he can become a #2... [/wishful thinking]
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: Don Ho on March 20, 2019, 07:38:03 PM
Nice McBride clip Geo.  39 years ago, damn.  1980-81 every Philadelphia team made it to their respective league championship, bums only ones to prevail as world champs.
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: ice grillin you on March 20, 2019, 10:00:08 PM
man did pivetta look good today

His last two outings were really good.  If he can become a #2... [/wishful thinking]

hes been good all spring but today was next level filth that ive never seen from him

Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on March 20, 2019, 10:22:08 PM
They need him. Stating the obvious but since VV isnít developing heís got to be the third guy.
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: AO1 on March 21, 2019, 03:28:41 PM
Harperís gone yard twice
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: Don Ho on March 21, 2019, 05:04:39 PM
Harper's second homer was beautiful.

Damn, VV really sucks.  "Vince, bullpen on line 1".
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: MDS on March 21, 2019, 07:47:47 PM
They need him. Stating the obvious but since VV isnít developing heís got to be the third guy.

your no 3 is pivetta...maybe

most likely its someone currently playing for another team. what the phillies have in house is a lot of bottom of the rotation starters/organization depth. the best thing about their rotation is they have 3/4 guys in AAA who are not horrendous, which is kind of something.
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: Geowhizzer on March 21, 2019, 08:23:22 PM
Hell of a lot of fun at Spectrum Field today.  Both Harper homers were blasts.  Son got an autograph from Jimmy Rollins.  Bought him a #3 jersey.  May have to sell blood to pay the bills later.

Vinny V is maddening to watch.  He can be dominant to two strikes, then starts nibbling.  He might start the year in the rotation, but he won't end it there.
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: Rome on March 24, 2019, 09:58:23 AM
(https://scontent-mia3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/fr/cp0/e15/q65/56209424_10158269295782802_1799736020242006016_o.jpg?_nc_cat=111&efg=eyJpIjoidCJ9&_nc_oc=AQmy-gqya0ZlyiH21RzMOyQseZK7bLf1zWf16vEKe0ijM-Fskz22VoaqmpHtpoXFqWw&_nc_ht=scontent-mia3-1.xx&oh=981d260d754b7aff897f0099ebd8e77e&oe=5D03C9A7)

There are few places Iíd wait in line to eat.  This is one of them. 
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: Rome on March 24, 2019, 03:29:44 PM
Three farging Kís and a BB for $330M?

Boooooooo!

I did meet Middleton, though. He was seated right across from me in 112.
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: Geowhizzer on March 24, 2019, 04:05:27 PM
Three farging Kís and a BB for $330M?

Boooooooo!

I did meet Middleton, though. He was seated right across from me in 112.

Should have met me there on Thursday, Rome.  Two HR's from Mr. Hair, along with a handful of others, including one by a guy named Gift!
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: Rome on March 24, 2019, 07:41:34 PM
It was hotter than July today.  Jesus...

They bombed the shtein out of the ball, though, and without Hoskins or Realmuto too.

Altherr could be really good.  Franco is a retard.  The broads at the Tiki Bar are hot and they free pour Titoís like a mofo. 

A+ day.
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: MDS on March 24, 2019, 08:28:37 PM
Altherr could be really good. 

obscure prospect aaron altherr
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: ice grillin you on March 26, 2019, 11:43:28 AM
Altherr could be really good. 

obscure prospect aaron altherr

lol...who stinks
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: Geowhizzer on March 26, 2019, 08:01:58 PM
https://twitter.com/ToddZolecki/status/1110613338503946241
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: Rome on March 26, 2019, 08:13:11 PM
Good news:  Thatís a 100 win lineup. 

Bad news:  Nola will only start 30 games. 
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: Geowhizzer on March 26, 2019, 09:34:16 PM
Good news:  Thatís a 100 win lineup. 

Bad news:  Nola will only start 30 games.

(https://thestudentvanguard.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/07/AP_vincent-velasquez-940x540-900x517.jpg)
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: Rome on March 28, 2019, 10:05:17 AM
Todd... post a new season thread. If I do it youíll cry like a bitch.   Get on it.
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: MDS on March 28, 2019, 10:20:10 AM
the 5 people on here dont need a new thread, grandpa
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: Rome on March 28, 2019, 10:47:12 AM
We need some fresh luck in here, and sadly (not to mention amazingly) enough, youíre the one who has to provide it.

Just do me a favor, already...
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: MDS on March 28, 2019, 11:32:58 AM
speaking of luck, i want everyone to watch this clip from like 2005

-harry
-sal fasano
-sal fasano's facial hair
-sal fasano blooper
-cn8 logo
-jon lieber

https://twitter.com/dhm/status/1111248614062542848
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: AO1 on March 28, 2019, 01:45:06 PM
Damn I miss harry
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: Rome on March 28, 2019, 03:12:54 PM
Holy shtein Nola is dealing.
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: Don Ho on March 28, 2019, 03:21:19 PM
Welcome to CBP McCutcheon.
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: Rome on March 28, 2019, 03:22:48 PM
Tehran is a goddamn good pitcher.  He settled down nicely after that first mistake. 
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: Don Ho on March 28, 2019, 03:32:04 PM
Acuna is going to be a pain in our ass.  Damn he's good.
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: Rome on March 28, 2019, 03:39:28 PM
Iím not sure why Nola is nibbling now.  He was dominant in the first by bringing it to them.  Weird.
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: Don Ho on March 28, 2019, 03:39:46 PM
WTF Nola?  Settle down.  Acuna set this all up.
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: Rome on March 28, 2019, 03:40:27 PM
Thatís more like it.  Challenge these bitches. 
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: Don Ho on March 28, 2019, 03:44:37 PM
Phanatic is in better shape than Quest Love.
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: phattymatty on March 28, 2019, 03:50:17 PM
Probably the first baseball I've watched on TV in 2-3 years, so strange seeing men shaped like this playing sports.
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: Rome on March 28, 2019, 04:02:45 PM
Theyíre shaped like you, Matt. 
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: phattymatty on March 28, 2019, 04:10:19 PM
Yeah that's the point dummy.
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: Rome on March 28, 2019, 04:13:05 PM
I would throw over to first 20 times when Mr Unwritten Rule is at the plate. 

Also - he looks like a bag of meat from Taco Bell. 
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: Rome on March 28, 2019, 04:14:05 PM
Yeah that's the point dummy.

I know.  I wish I still looked like them.  I look like Frosty The Snowman these days. 
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: QB Eagles on March 28, 2019, 04:18:44 PM
Holy shtein Nola is dealing.

Did you post this five pitches into the game?
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on March 28, 2019, 04:30:38 PM
I would throw over to first 20 times when Mr Unwritten Rule is at the plate. 

Also - he looks like a bag of meat from Taco Bell.

Hate that dude. I booed him at every Astros game.

Odub! Cesar!!
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: Rome on March 28, 2019, 04:50:31 PM
Holy shtein Nola is dealing.

Did you post this five pitches into the game?

Iím ahead of my time. 
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on March 28, 2019, 04:54:06 PM
People booing Harper and of course itíll be blown up by media types

On a side note...his shirt he wore with the Phanatic and Gritty as Jules and Vincent in Pulp Fiction...I need this
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: Don Ho on March 28, 2019, 05:03:55 PM
Yeah, WTF with the booing?  Inbreds.
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: Don Ho on March 28, 2019, 05:06:07 PM
Usually can't stand Ben Davis but he's had some good observations today.  So true about Nola, what a stud.  Struggled on the mound but 8 K's, got out of trouble repeatedly. 
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on March 28, 2019, 05:16:37 PM
MOTHERfargIN MAIK MAIK
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: Rome on March 28, 2019, 05:22:33 PM
That was a Kapler sequence in reverse. 

Bee-you-dee-full.
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: Don Ho on March 28, 2019, 05:34:08 PM
Allow me to be the first please, WHAT THE farg IS HECTOR DOING ON THIS TEAM :boom :boom :boom :boom :boom :boom
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: Munson on March 28, 2019, 05:42:27 PM
RHYS
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on March 28, 2019, 05:42:46 PM
Rhysssssssss
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: QB Eagles on March 28, 2019, 05:44:30 PM
gotta love making them pay to choose to face Hoskins instead of Harper.
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: Don Ho on March 28, 2019, 05:44:37 PM
WOW WOW WOW WOW!!  farg yeah!!

I'm still bitter about last year's opening day train wreck
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: Rome on March 28, 2019, 05:45:23 PM
Holy shtein this is amazing.
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: Don Ho on March 28, 2019, 05:47:55 PM
Yo Geo!  Where's your Looney Tunes gif?
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: Don Ho on March 28, 2019, 05:48:17 PM
That was a Kapler sequence in reverse. 

Bee-you-dee-full.

 :-D
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: Don Ho on March 28, 2019, 05:48:58 PM
How's that Bryce Harper look a like?
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: Rome on March 28, 2019, 05:55:09 PM
Why does it seem that every relief pitcher this team signs sucks gigantic cock?
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: Don Ho on March 28, 2019, 05:57:20 PM
Inbreds have the green light to boo Robertson.

Rhys' fault. 
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: Geowhizzer on March 28, 2019, 06:10:14 PM
Yo Geo!  Where's your Looney Tunes gif?

Your wish is my command!

(https://beta-static.photobucket.com/images/c388/geowhizzer/gashousegorillas.gif)
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: Rome on March 28, 2019, 06:55:58 PM
10-4 and you guys are complaining!

Shut up!

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on March 28, 2019, 07:37:17 PM
If the back end of the rotation doesnít shtein themselves this is a deep playoff team.

I bought the Phanatic/Gritty shirt
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: Rome on March 28, 2019, 08:08:26 PM
Thatís almost as awesome as my Beto hat.
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: General_Failure on March 28, 2019, 08:24:46 PM
I bought the Phanatic/Gritty shirt

http://justtwothings.tumblr.com/
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: Don Ho on March 28, 2019, 09:00:52 PM
^^^Nerd pandering at its finest!^^^
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: MDS on March 28, 2019, 09:13:22 PM
oh man the bandwagon is fillin up
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: ice grillin you on March 28, 2019, 09:17:33 PM
oh man the bandwagon is fillin up

white people sports is something else

the discrepancy btwn the boo's and cheers today depending on who they were for was as embarrassing a thing as ive ever seen in philly sports history....it made jimmy v. chase seem like some kumbaya shtein
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on March 28, 2019, 09:17:40 PM
Did you boo Brycie today?
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: ice grillin you on March 28, 2019, 09:20:24 PM
Did you boo Brycie today?

i did not and i was in right field....but i would cheer him for actual plays...he doesnt crack my most hated ever
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on March 28, 2019, 09:23:17 PM
Well he bowed to you so thatís good

Heís moving up on my list. Redeeming himself by embracing the city and history.
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: ice grillin you on March 28, 2019, 09:25:13 PM
i said to my girl when it happened...that was pretty cool (shes asian)...would have been cooler tho to not miss 12 pitches by 10+ inches
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: MDS on March 28, 2019, 09:26:17 PM
its better to have a good team and fake fans than what they had the past 7 years where nobody cared and they were garbage...but theres definetly some negatives with this

what im enjoying is noted bryce haters romey and j completely breezing past that and loving every second of this and everybody knew they would
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on March 28, 2019, 09:50:13 PM
i said to my girl when it happened...that was pretty cool (shes asian)...would have been cooler tho to not miss 12 pitches by 10+ inches

Yeah Tehran threw him one fastball and then nothing but sliders and he bit every time
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on March 28, 2019, 09:51:59 PM
its better to have a good team and fake fans than what they had the past 7 years where nobody cared and they were garbage...but theres definetly some negatives with this

what im enjoying is noted bryce haters romey and j completely breezing past that and loving every second of this and everybody knew they would

Iím a Phillies fan. I ainít gonna blast him just yet. Better live up to that deal bc cool t shirts and Phanatic spikes only get you so far
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: ice grillin you on March 28, 2019, 09:52:38 PM
i said to my girl when it happened...that was pretty cool (shes asian)...would have been cooler tho to not miss 12 pitches by 10+ inches

Yeah Tehran threw him one fastball and then nothing but sliders and he bit every time

i dont know about you but i will be dead before his contract runs out...think we can give him a pass for today?
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on March 28, 2019, 09:53:57 PM
Of course. Iím not ripping him.
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: ice grillin you on March 28, 2019, 09:54:37 PM
so thru next wednesday? 
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on March 28, 2019, 10:00:26 PM
One day at a time, man. One day at a time.
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: MDS on March 28, 2019, 10:04:26 PM
I’m a Phillies fan. I ain’t gonna blast him just yet. Better live up to that deal bc cool t shirts and Phanatic spikes only get you so far

i have no idea idea what living up to the deal means in your parlance but hes not going to win 6 mvps let alone 1...hes going to hit 240, 30ish bombs and walk a farg ton. this is what youre buying.

i do remember you saying youd never root for them if they signed him so i guess that lasted 0 games. but yes his spikes were dope.
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: ice grillin you on March 28, 2019, 10:05:15 PM
its gonna feel a lot worse when hes striking out after nick pivetta or zach eflin has given up 8 runs

today didnt matter
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: Rome on March 29, 2019, 10:16:21 AM
Yesterday was fun.  I havenít had that good a time watching those fools in forever.   Jayís right about taking it one day at a time, but Iím optimistic as hell right now. 
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: smeags on March 29, 2019, 02:10:11 PM
so Jay .... 80 ?
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on March 29, 2019, 02:37:33 PM
90-92!
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: smeags on March 29, 2019, 02:42:36 PM
90-92!

you know you have to buy a harper jersey right ? that's the only way you can be let back on the band wagon.
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: MDS on March 29, 2019, 03:18:21 PM
90-92!

can old j please come back
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: Rome on March 29, 2019, 03:48:25 PM
90-92!

you know you have to buy a harper jersey right ? that's the only way you can be let back on the band wagon.

Mrs Rome bought me a green Harper shirsey for St. Paddyís Day. 

I havenít worn it. 

Yet.
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on March 29, 2019, 08:47:04 PM
90-92!

can old j please come back

90-92 isnít homer j?
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on March 29, 2019, 08:47:26 PM
90-92!

you know you have to buy a harper jersey right ? that's the only way you can be let back on the band wagon.

If they win a WS I will
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: MDS on March 30, 2019, 11:16:09 AM
90-92!

can old j please come back

90-92 isnít homer j?

not when you quit sports
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: Geowhizzer on March 30, 2019, 06:04:37 PM
Maik Maik loves him some hitting 8th.

I don't think they have pitching to close the deal (yet), but this should be a fun summer of watching baseball with this lineup.
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: Rome on March 30, 2019, 06:50:13 PM
Well, if youíre going to get your first hit, thatís the way to do it. 
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: Geowhizzer on March 30, 2019, 07:01:30 PM
Well, if youíre going to get your first hit, thatís the way to do it.

That ball was absolutely crushed. 

Now for the bullpen to do its job.  Come on Seranthony!
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: Don Ho on March 30, 2019, 07:02:35 PM
That was amazing!  You could feel the electricity at CBP through the TV. 

How's this bottom of the order?  Maik Maik!!!
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: Geowhizzer on March 30, 2019, 07:07:00 PM
https://twitter.com/Jules_R18/status/1112112495957889024
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: Don Ho on March 30, 2019, 07:09:20 PM
Better hair, Harper, Cutch or that Asian dude in the dugout?
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: Don Ho on March 30, 2019, 07:14:02 PM
Jesus, Smoltz is difficult to listen to.  He and the other dude giggled like two school girls most of the game.
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: AO1 on March 30, 2019, 07:26:43 PM
Robertsonís a bum
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: Don Ho on March 30, 2019, 07:28:01 PM
two appearances, two bad outings.
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: Don Ho on March 30, 2019, 07:30:09 PM
Robertson, what the farg?  He looks like a mess
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: Geowhizzer on March 30, 2019, 07:39:02 PM
2-0 bitches!
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: Rome on March 30, 2019, 07:52:40 PM
Kapler might be the only thing keeping this team from winning triple digits.

Heís still a farging ree-ree.
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: QB Eagles on March 30, 2019, 08:00:56 PM
Well, if youíre going to get your first hit, thatís the way to do it. 

That thing was murdered.

Kapler might be the only thing keeping this team from winning triple digits.

Well, and the pitching.

Because it's 2019 and this is how baseball works now, most of the production is going to come via the long ball. HR droughts will be team slumps. Luckily half the games are in the friendly confines of CBP.
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: Geowhizzer on March 30, 2019, 08:09:04 PM
https://twitter.com/rhyshoskins/status/1112141773629997056

https://twitter.com/JSalisburyNBCS/status/1112142234093318146
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: Don Ho on March 31, 2019, 08:16:18 PM
It may be the cold, but Arrieta looks like dog shtein.  Lucky heís only given up one run.
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: Geowhizzer on March 31, 2019, 09:56:00 PM
I don't think the Hoskins HBP was on purpose, but that's the third time (at least) pitches have been up and in on him.  Showed pretty good restraint going down first base.
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: QB Eagles on March 31, 2019, 10:03:57 PM
And that was how Bryce Harper came to use bats with "Nick Williams" written on them for the rest of his career.
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: Don Ho on March 31, 2019, 10:05:51 PM
Totally agree on Hoskins Geo.

Arrieta sure cleaned it up.  He went from awful bad to filthy good.
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: Rome on March 31, 2019, 10:27:41 PM
Jessica Mendoza would get dinner and a movie. 
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on March 31, 2019, 10:33:12 PM
This is going to be a fun season.

Need another starter and 1-2 bullpen pieces.

Iíd keep plugging after Keuchel. Maybe a deal similar to Arrieta gets him.
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: Geowhizzer on March 31, 2019, 10:36:14 PM
https://twitter.com/RoobNBCS/status/1112543357878878208
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: Geowhizzer on March 31, 2019, 10:58:59 PM
https://twitter.com/DebWNJ/status/1112547160510345216
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: ice grillin you on March 31, 2019, 11:16:04 PM
all I want is for that stupid wave thing the two lacrosse names do...itís so embarrassing that no one else on the team will do it (so far)
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: Don Ho on April 01, 2019, 01:54:16 AM
Daily News, too soon. 
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: Don Ho on April 01, 2019, 02:08:05 AM
Two lacrosse names!  I love it!!!
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: Rome on April 01, 2019, 10:29:31 AM
all I want is for that stupid wave thing the two lacrosse names do...itís so embarrassing that no one else on the team will do it (so far)

As usual I need an IGY translator...

Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: Geowhizzer on April 01, 2019, 11:04:05 AM
This gem from Todd Zolecki sums up the Phils' sordid history:

Quote
The Phillies are the only undefeated team in baseball. If they win on Tuesday against the Nationals, they will be 4-0 for the first time since 1915.
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: MDS on April 01, 2019, 12:19:08 PM
all I want is for that stupid wave thing the two lacrosse names do...itís so embarrassing that no one else on the team will do it (so far)

As usual I need an IGY translator...

so harper and hoskins "wave" in a child like manner to the dugout when they hit a double. usually guys will throw up some kind of sign or signal, but these 2 are doing a goofy wave thing.

its stupid. i dont really care one way or the other. im just glad they are playing with energy this year because last year, even when they were winning, shtein was dull.
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: Rome on April 01, 2019, 12:35:48 PM
Ah.  Gotcha.  Donkey shine. 
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: QB Eagles on April 01, 2019, 12:43:54 PM
Quote
If they win on Tuesday against the Nationals

Damn. Can't he just wait one more day for the stat to be true instead of jinxing it like that?
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: Don Ho on April 02, 2019, 09:48:13 PM
F'in Elfin!  Nice work tonight!
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: Don Ho on April 02, 2019, 09:59:17 PM
Clear those bitches Segura!!!

Harper with a nice FU! 
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: Rome on April 02, 2019, 10:23:02 PM
This is really great.  There has to be 10,000 Phillies fans there. 
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: Geowhizzer on April 02, 2019, 10:36:11 PM
I'm pretty sure that 75%+ of the fans left at the park are Phils fans.  In the bottom of the seventh.   :-D
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: Geowhizzer on April 02, 2019, 10:57:50 PM
Oh, yeah...

(https://beta-static.photobucket.com/images/c388/geowhizzer/gashousegorillas.gif)
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: Don Ho on April 02, 2019, 11:14:04 PM
There ya' go Geo
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: Don Ho on April 02, 2019, 11:15:30 PM
Wow!  wasn't paying attention and looked up from my laptop and I see VV on the mound bottom ninth with 6 run lead. Thank you God!
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: Geowhizzer on April 02, 2019, 11:39:24 PM
Props to Eflin for putting up five strong innings.  Could have gone another, but the decision to go for offense was the right one.
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on April 03, 2019, 01:27:32 AM
That was nice. Keep this shtein going
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: Rome on April 03, 2019, 06:23:36 AM
Nats fans should really think about polite applause from here on out because pissing this guy off seems like a truly bad idea. 

And I think the 10K estimate, while hyperbolic, may have been pretty close.  Wow.  Way to bring that shtein, Phils fans. 
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: ice grillin you on April 03, 2019, 09:20:03 AM
btwn the home opener and last night ive been to two of the most fun sporting events in a while for me

back at it today
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on April 03, 2019, 02:01:37 PM
Nola is getting his tits lit

Jesus Christ, man
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: phattymatty on April 03, 2019, 02:45:50 PM
ol' lit tits nola

Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: Rome on April 03, 2019, 03:09:00 PM
Ha.  Wtf.
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: Rome on April 03, 2019, 03:11:25 PM
Harperís OPS right now is 1.819.

Um... thatís sustainable, right?
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: Don Ho on April 03, 2019, 03:11:36 PM
Tits sure got milked today.  Home run, double, home run all that with two outs bottom first.
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: Don Ho on April 03, 2019, 04:11:47 PM
Cutch!

Kingery with 5 star effort at home plate
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: Don Ho on April 03, 2019, 04:12:54 PM
That slide irregardless if he's safe or not was one of the best.
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: Don Ho on April 03, 2019, 04:36:38 PM
Sir shteinz A Lot back to his true form
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: QB Eagles on April 03, 2019, 04:58:50 PM
Nice pitching, icehole.
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: AO1 on April 03, 2019, 04:59:02 PM
Robertsonís a farging bum
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on April 03, 2019, 04:59:46 PM
farg that ho Robertson
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: Rome on April 03, 2019, 05:00:46 PM
Kapler is at fault there.  Robertson is trash and couldnít find the plate with a seeing eye dog.  Get him out. 
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: Don Ho on April 03, 2019, 05:11:28 PM
WTF did we just see?  Cutch gets these bums the lead.  Sir shtein Hole with his usual theatrics, Hoskins with the cement glove and Robertson??? 

Iíve seen a lot of Phillies games in my life but that is right up there with one of the worst performances Iíve ever seen out of the bullpen.
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: QB Eagles on April 03, 2019, 05:30:07 PM
Hoskins with the cement glove and Robertson???

He had the infield pop-ups going all day too.
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: Rome on April 03, 2019, 06:50:47 PM
I had the game on at work and watched the last two innings at the pub.  That was awful.  Like 2013-2017 awful. 
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: Don Ho on April 03, 2019, 09:19:48 PM
Not worried about this team but I am very concerned about Robertson.  Three appearances and three dudes.

Today, 19 pitches = single, walk, walk, walk

NL East will be the MMA octagan this season.   
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: MDS on April 03, 2019, 09:47:12 PM
naturally the first game they lose is the one i drive 2.5 hours each way and through pointless dc rush hour traffic

its a bad loss but theyll  have 15 more of these before the all star break. its baseball it happens. im mad cause i was there.
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: Rome on April 05, 2019, 07:46:22 PM
These guys are fun to watch.
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: MDS on April 05, 2019, 07:46:33 PM
get in price went down to $6 tonight and i thought about going and just standing underneath the overhang, but couldnt get back in time

good decision because this shtein is over
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: Geowhizzer on April 05, 2019, 07:51:11 PM
Franco's run around the bases would work well with some Benny Hill music.
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: Rome on April 05, 2019, 08:04:24 PM
Pivetta is a piece of garbage.  Typical Ginny wop POS.  Die.
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: ice grillin you on April 05, 2019, 08:08:18 PM
its shocking how bad the phillies pitching is

almost worse than rhys Hoskins is a fielder
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: MDS on April 05, 2019, 08:08:59 PM
Pivetta is a piece of garbage.  Typical Ginny wop POS.  Die.

lol
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: Rome on April 05, 2019, 08:13:02 PM
its shocking how bad the phillies pitching is

almost worse than rhys Hoskins is a fielder

Step on first.  Throw.  What.

He better hit 50 homers.  Dumb random white doode.
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: MDS on April 05, 2019, 08:13:43 PM
homers
bryce harper 3
mickey moniak 1
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: Rome on April 05, 2019, 08:18:53 PM
Thereís 100 college cheerleaders in my pub tonight.

The best thing Iíve seen is Odubel smashing two balls to right field.

PRIORITIES.
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: ice grillin you on April 05, 2019, 08:27:47 PM
I cant believe this game hasnt been delayed....its borderline criminal
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: Geowhizzer on April 05, 2019, 08:33:35 PM
I cant believe this game hasnt been delayed....its borderline criminal

I wonder if the heavier stuff is still to come.  They could be trying to make it official.

Of course, I fully agree with you.  Probably should have never started.
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: MDS on April 05, 2019, 08:45:44 PM
i dont know why the players would rather play through this than just do a DH tomorrow...certainly the team would prefer that

they could get nice crowds for both jawns
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: Rome on April 05, 2019, 09:00:15 PM
Hoskins is the poster boy for the DH.
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: MDS on April 05, 2019, 09:10:37 PM
NiCk PiVeTtA iS gOiNg To BrEaK oUt ThIs YeAr

(https://media1.tenor.com/images/a9e748c8abfd91685d21e2a2c5fba7b2/tenor.gif?itemid=8617355)
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on April 05, 2019, 10:16:26 PM
Atta baby Hoskins
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: AO1 on April 05, 2019, 10:28:28 PM
Iíd throw Robertson out there in the 9th with a 6 run lead. Low pressure situation
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: Geowhizzer on April 05, 2019, 10:42:06 PM
(https://beta-static.photobucket.com/images/c388/geowhizzer/gashousegorillas.gif)


Damn.  This lineup just grinds it out.
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: Geowhizzer on April 05, 2019, 11:13:44 PM
https://twitter.com/JClarkNBCS/status/1114358616490954756
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: Don Ho on April 06, 2019, 04:52:02 AM
Pivetta is a piece of garbage.  Typical Ginny wop POS.  Die.

WHOA!
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: Rome on April 06, 2019, 06:15:40 AM
Lol!  I thought youíd like that.
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: ice grillin you on April 06, 2019, 12:06:06 PM
phillies average seeing 173 pitches a game.....the league average is 149

this lineup is pretty pretty good
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: MDS on April 06, 2019, 05:02:18 PM
the worst place on the internet by far is  8chan. close second is phillies twitter.
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: Don Ho on April 06, 2019, 08:46:43 PM
Sir shteinz A Lot, what the farg?  Nice to see his struggles have carried right over into the new season.
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: Munson on April 07, 2019, 02:59:48 PM
Lol total CBP special on that Rhys homer
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: Don Ho on April 07, 2019, 03:01:30 PM
Got to love the flowerbed!
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: Don Ho on April 07, 2019, 03:15:10 PM
Oh shtein, theyíre all doing the ďwaveĒ now.
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: MDS on April 07, 2019, 03:16:30 PM
there cant be a worse broadcast in baseball than tmac/whoever/schmidt

schmidt literally never watches the phillies or baseball except for the weekend games he does. he knows zero about the team or the league or the sport. hes old and cranky. go melt in the florida sun you MAGA chud.
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: ice grillin you on April 07, 2019, 03:21:21 PM
you could put vin scully and harry kalas in a booth with mcarthy and it would be the worst ever group
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: MDS on April 07, 2019, 03:40:44 PM
rocco baldelli leaves the loogy in to face rhys, then brings in a righty to face jt with odubel on deck and a base open

memories of ryne sandberg
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: ice grillin you on April 07, 2019, 03:46:44 PM
the phillies need a closer
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: Don Ho on April 07, 2019, 03:49:54 PM
Oh shtein, VV starts tomorrow.
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: ice grillin you on April 07, 2019, 03:56:51 PM
neris had great stuff today but if you consider yourself a contender you have to improve the back end of the pen
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: Geowhizzer on April 07, 2019, 03:56:59 PM
the phillies need a closer

If only there was one available...
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: MDS on April 07, 2019, 04:06:29 PM
the phillies need a closer

If only there was one available...

he was terrible in the postseason last year...give him a billion dollars for 1 year but im wary of going long term on 30+ pitcher
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: Geowhizzer on April 07, 2019, 04:23:03 PM
the phillies need a closer

If only there was one available...

he was terrible in the postseason last year...give him a billion dollars for 1 year but im wary of going long term on 30+ pitcher

Agreed, which is probably why he's still available.  He wants the long-term.
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: Geowhizzer on April 07, 2019, 04:44:45 PM
Eflin doing the job his first two starts.  Hopefully he can keep that up.
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: ice grillin you on April 07, 2019, 08:50:19 PM
Quote
Mike Trout has a 25.6 BB% and 7.0 K% after 10 games this season. There is actually one other major league player who has *both* a higher BB% and a lower K% than Trout this season...

It's Maikel Franco, who is currently sporting a 26.5 BB% and a 5.9 K%.
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: Geowhizzer on April 07, 2019, 09:12:13 PM
Best player in baseball!  :D
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on April 08, 2019, 07:34:40 PM
JFC that hanging slider was fat

Thanks, VV.
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: MDS on April 08, 2019, 08:39:42 PM
i feel like bunk in s4 of the wire

j is my jimmy....all he gives is a taste
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: Don Ho on April 08, 2019, 08:43:18 PM
That weird, low reaching swing does it again.
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: ice grillin you on April 08, 2019, 09:32:54 PM
you just cant have pat farging neshak close games
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: Don Ho on April 08, 2019, 09:35:15 PM
No you can't.  This musical closer shtein is not the answer.
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: ice grillin you on April 08, 2019, 09:39:13 PM
it could be an answer if you had some consistent dependable lights out arms...I don't know if you need a kimbrell...but you need more than what they got
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: MDS on April 08, 2019, 10:07:48 PM
neshek being used tonight was gabe playing mad scientist. he cant fiddle with the lineup anymore so he has to flex his muscles somehow...enter the bullpen.

i have no idea why neris wasnt used but im sure it had something to do with the swingpath of anthony rendom matching up to neshek's slop. some guys who they might be able to get in july

-mike givens
-kenny giles
-shane greene
-alex colome
-cody allen
-will smith
-archie bradley
-wade davis

some of these teams are going to be in the playoff race, but there will be some options.
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on April 09, 2019, 10:11:27 AM
I'd almost prefer waiting until the deadline to get someone vs spending stupid money on that Amish looking weirdo Kimbrel
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: AO1 on April 09, 2019, 10:47:17 AM
Iíd overpay for Kimbrel on a 1 year deal. He seems dead set on getting a 5 year deal but at some point heís going to have to accept it aint happening. Been encouraged by Robertsonís last 3 outings.
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on April 09, 2019, 12:30:09 PM
Sure a one year deal would be ok. Not a long term one tho
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: Don Ho on April 09, 2019, 03:00:30 PM
Iíd overpay for Kimbrel on a 1 year deal. He seems dead set on getting a 5 year deal but at some point heís going to have to accept it aint happening. Been encouraged by Robertsonís last 3 outings.

Yes on Robertson, like night and day the past three outings.  Did he not pitch much in spring training?  I don't recall seeing or hearing much of him. 

Agree with Todd in asking why was Hector not out there?  Seems to have figured his stuff out, not sold on him but he's looked more confident.  Still so damn early.  Encouraging thing is Adam Morgan hasn't imploded, yet.
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on April 09, 2019, 03:35:36 PM
Todd should like Kapler not having a dedicated closer. That is the thing the moneyballers scream about - not defining roles for the BP.
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: ice grillin you on April 09, 2019, 05:27:33 PM
you don't need a dedicated closer but if they want to win important games in September and hopefully October they cant run these guys out there
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: Rome on April 09, 2019, 07:33:43 PM
Kapler is Chip Kelly. 

Chip Kelly is Kapler. 
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: ice grillin you on April 09, 2019, 07:49:01 PM
mike mike with smoke

off a really good righty

great to see
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: Rome on April 09, 2019, 08:28:57 PM
Francoís homer was an absolute rocket. 
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on April 09, 2019, 09:14:52 PM
Seeing Franco have this success as the 8 hole hitter makes me wet.

Can I sleep at your place for the parade, Todd?
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on April 09, 2019, 09:18:19 PM
Welp...down to two run lead. Time to sweat it out
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on April 09, 2019, 09:23:51 PM
Nola what the farg, man.
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: ice grillin you on April 09, 2019, 09:25:27 PM
hes a home run giving up machine

15 home runs in his last 9 starts
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: MDS on April 09, 2019, 09:35:37 PM
Todd should like Kapler not having a dedicated closer. That is the thing the moneyballers scream about - not defining roles for the BP.

if you had wife beater osuna like your real squad, or jansen or diaz then you have a closer

if you have neris, seranthony, robertson, morgan and neshak, you mix and match because none of those guys are good enough
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: Geowhizzer on April 09, 2019, 09:38:00 PM
Neris for a two-inning save?
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: MDS on April 09, 2019, 09:40:27 PM
Neris for a two-inning save?

if he gets through this part of the order quickly, yeah. seems unlikely this will happen.
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: ice grillin you on April 09, 2019, 09:56:15 PM
bullpen sucks but this L is on bum ass nola
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: MDS on April 09, 2019, 10:03:58 PM
ramos is pitching the ninth

id agree the fact that this is a sweat it out is on bayou swamp trash
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: ice grillin you on April 09, 2019, 10:06:47 PM
being the bottom of the order makes me 2% more confident
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: ice grillin you on April 09, 2019, 10:16:03 PM
goodnight
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on April 09, 2019, 10:16:24 PM
Lmaooooooo

Jesus farging Christ
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: MDS on April 09, 2019, 10:16:46 PM
being the bottom of the order makes me 2% more confident

lol
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: Don Ho on April 09, 2019, 10:18:15 PM
Repeat after me:

ďGet a closer!Ē
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: MDS on April 09, 2019, 10:18:44 PM
you cant fault the logic from kap...use your best rp to get the middle of the order out and your next best reliever for the bottom. ramos just left one up.

bayou boy lost this
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: MDS on April 09, 2019, 10:21:07 PM
well they need to win the game here because its just whats left of alvarez and nicasio left
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: AO1 on April 09, 2019, 10:26:06 PM
What a god awful at bat from Segura
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: ice grillin you on April 09, 2019, 10:28:46 PM
be nice to have roman quinn right now
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: MDS on April 09, 2019, 10:39:25 PM
how bad is kingery....andrew knapp from his weaker side was going to PH instead of him
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on April 09, 2019, 10:44:28 PM
6-1...9-6

farg off
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: ice grillin you on April 09, 2019, 10:44:37 PM
holy shtein that ball was bashed

i cant farging believe how far that went
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: Don Ho on April 09, 2019, 10:45:36 PM
Good farging God
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: AO1 on April 09, 2019, 10:46:06 PM
Nice chokejob
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: QB Eagles on April 09, 2019, 10:47:04 PM
They are going to score and give up so many runs this season.
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: MDS on April 09, 2019, 10:49:14 PM
everyone is going to complain about the bullpen but never forget aaron nola blowing up
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: Don Ho on April 09, 2019, 10:51:39 PM
Totally agree!  Yes the bullpen tanked but Nola let these guys right back in it.
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on April 09, 2019, 10:52:06 PM
Nola sucked.

The BP sucks

Offense died

farg this shtein.
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: Don Ho on April 09, 2019, 10:53:27 PM
Pishteinta tomorrow
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: MDS on April 09, 2019, 10:58:05 PM
Nola sucked.

The BP sucks

Offense died

farg this shtein.

7/10 j rant

feels a little forced and need to like sports again to fully get there but we are on the right track
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on April 10, 2019, 08:53:00 AM
nah legit

watching "Ace" meltdown and then seeing the collection of stiffs get paraded out there to nibble around the zone and then get got by Soto and Robles was infuriating.
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: Geowhizzer on April 10, 2019, 11:09:07 AM
Neris for a two-inning save?

if he gets through this part of the order quickly, yeah. seems unlikely this will happen.

We just won't discuss what happened.  My blood pressure is already spiking...
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: QB Eagles on April 10, 2019, 02:59:55 PM
It's still early April, so I just groaned and then laughed at that bomb. Thing was halfway to Packer Ave.
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: ice grillin you on April 10, 2019, 03:17:27 PM
the soto HR beyond its unreal distance is completely irrelevant...as is alvarez's outing in general....he was tossed to the wolves because they had nowhere else to turn and he pitched to about 7 more batters than he should have....take him out of it and the pen was fine

again as I mentioned before they even gave up the lead the game is on the ace who gave up as many runs as the pen even if you include alvarez...on a night they had a lot of guys unavailable nola cant implode up 5 runs....he has to get to the 8th at least....he didn't

this is not to defend the pen its needs big improvements but last night wasn't them

Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: MDS on April 10, 2019, 03:47:25 PM
100% of the blame im seeing on the internets is going to kapler, alvarez and ramos. nothing to nola.

take a giant guess why and keep mind the fanbase wants scrappy hustle cant hit for shtein and behind andrew knapp on the depth chart scott kingery starting over cesar
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: Don Ho on April 10, 2019, 04:18:22 PM
Thought we agreed 90% of the fan base has brain damage.

Typical.  These ignorant people.  Knapp, NO.  Kingery, NO.  Cesar will get his shtein together.  Good God we all knew what this bullpen was, mediocre at best.  Other than newbie Robertson, no surprises here.  Nola?  He was lucky to get out of the first giving up just one run.  Nats were getting good swings.  So far after three outings he's not looking like the "ace" of the staff.  Agree with IGY, he had to get to the 8th.

Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: ice grillin you on April 10, 2019, 07:16:55 PM
holy shtein bring up Eickhoff....I cant take this anymore
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: Don Ho on April 10, 2019, 07:17:45 PM
Pisheta off to a great start.  First 4 up, first 4 on base.
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: Don Ho on April 10, 2019, 07:18:50 PM
Adams ball should have been gone. 
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: Don Ho on April 10, 2019, 07:29:31 PM
39 pitches in the first inning.   :puke
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: MDS on April 10, 2019, 07:32:32 PM
pivetta next week in colorado sounds fun
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on April 10, 2019, 07:34:53 PM
Gtfo Pivetta

Bum ass ho

Iím watching the board at the Astros game and see a three spot already
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: ice grillin you on April 10, 2019, 07:55:40 PM
ceasar chasing chris davis
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: MDS on April 10, 2019, 08:08:02 PM
in the last 7 years the nationals have drafted and produced
bryce
rendon
turner
soto
robles
stras

the phillies have hector neris
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: Don Ho on April 10, 2019, 08:34:24 PM
Listening to Ben Davis helps distract my anger.  "Brazil? Isn't that a soccer country?"  No Ben they're known for ice hockey.
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: Geowhizzer on April 10, 2019, 09:07:55 PM
:puke
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on April 10, 2019, 09:36:24 PM
Oh

9-0

Nbd

Nice start but now theyíll start sucking
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: Munson on April 10, 2019, 09:48:01 PM
12...it's 12 now, J.
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: Geowhizzer on April 10, 2019, 10:04:05 PM
12...it's 12 now, J.

And Washington just added a safety.  Nola was sacked in the dugout.
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: MDS on April 10, 2019, 10:28:25 PM
its a good thing the season ended right before the sixers playoff run starts
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: MDS on April 10, 2019, 10:34:42 PM
trevor rosenthal hasnt retired a batter this year....until he faced andrew knapp
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: Don Ho on April 10, 2019, 10:34:49 PM
So bad tonight that the dude on the Nats with the ERA of infinity just got a Knapp looking.
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: Don Ho on April 10, 2019, 10:35:45 PM
trevor rosenthal hasnt retired a batter this year....until he faced andrew knapp

Did you see his ERA dropped to 189.00!
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on April 11, 2019, 12:00:10 AM
Altherr for set up or closer
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: ice grillin you on April 12, 2019, 07:22:22 PM
Well that was embarrassing
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: ice grillin you on April 12, 2019, 07:57:21 PM
That ball is 5 rows deep at the bank
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: MDS on April 12, 2019, 08:27:49 PM
there cant be a more depressing sports venue than this marlins stadium
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on April 13, 2019, 03:18:04 PM
Their uniforms are stupid too. Black tops with black numbers
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: Don Ho on April 13, 2019, 05:29:28 PM
My only trip on the company dime that brings me close to a Phils game/series is in Miami in late August.  Shouldn't be difficult securing prime seats.

Geo, Rome?  Let's do this!
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: Don Ho on April 13, 2019, 07:19:49 PM
Eflin?  WTF is going on?   He's getting beat like a drum
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: ice grillin you on April 13, 2019, 07:21:12 PM
phillies and sixers trying to decide who the bigger fraud of a team is

also what is worse

phillies rotation or sixers bench

Eflin?  WTF is going on?   He's getting beat like a drum

ummm he stinks?
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: Rome on April 13, 2019, 07:21:40 PM
Guess I should have gone to last nightís game instead. 

Legit 15,000 Phils fans here though
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: Don Ho on April 13, 2019, 07:23:54 PM
Romey, are you sitting by the band?

These Marlins uniforms are disgusting.

Roof open males this park look so much better.
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: MDS on April 13, 2019, 07:39:40 PM
the thing about their rotation is they dont need them to be good, just ok

this is like the 4th or 5th game where the starter has gotten shelled
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: Rome on April 13, 2019, 07:47:18 PM
@ Don...  10 rows behind 1st base.

This stadium is amazing btw.  Itís Miami 100%.  Had a Cuban coffee that was outrageous.   Had a Lomito for dinner at an Argentinian place in Little Havana.  Truly incredible.
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: ice grillin you on April 13, 2019, 07:50:38 PM
this is like the 4th or 5th game where the starter has gotten shelled

because they are awful

nola should be good...the only other guy that you can hope will just be ok is arrieta

everyone else is a borderline AAA'er

its embarrassing....basically they need nola to be a cy young finalist again to not be a validly horrendous rotation and thats not happening
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: MDS on April 13, 2019, 08:16:50 PM
calling up eickhoff isnt going to solve anything
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: Rome on April 13, 2019, 08:23:33 PM
Eflin was utter garbage.  Itís not easy to hit homers in here when the roof is open and they were all obliterated. 
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: ice grillin you on April 13, 2019, 08:26:25 PM
calling up eickhoff isnt going to solve anything

probably not but it solves not having to watch this trash....ill take anything different
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: Don Ho on April 13, 2019, 08:31:25 PM
@ Don...  10 rows behind 1st base.

This stadium is amazing btw.  Itís Miami 100%.  Had a Cuban coffee that was outrageous.   Had a Lomito for dinner at an Argentinian place in Little Havana.  Truly incredible.

Sorry you have to witness this shtein live Rome. 

The Cuban Coffee sounds nice.  Lomito Completo!  Had one in Miami like 15 years ago after flying all night from Hawaii.  Still brings tears to my eyes.
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: MDS on April 13, 2019, 08:32:12 PM
spencer howard who says no
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: Don Ho on April 13, 2019, 08:36:53 PM
2 f'ing hits tonight and one is by Kingery.
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on April 14, 2019, 01:29:26 AM
Oh.

10-3 to Miami eh?
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: Rome on April 14, 2019, 08:41:10 AM
I wanted to add there isnít a single chain operator in there.  Itís all local Miami people.  Thought that was pretty cool. 
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: ice grillin you on April 14, 2019, 02:37:43 PM
so cool
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on April 14, 2019, 02:58:17 PM
Damn I turned it on right before he gave up the homer and lose the no no
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: MDS on April 14, 2019, 03:03:03 PM
i know everyones backup catcher sucks but andrew knapp really sucks
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: Geowhizzer on April 14, 2019, 05:25:02 PM
The juggernaut is leaking oil.
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: MDS on April 14, 2019, 08:29:51 PM
couldnt watch past the 10th...even i have my limits

i guess they won i dont know its april
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: Geowhizzer on April 14, 2019, 08:33:09 PM
couldnt watch past the 10th...even i have my limits

i guess they won i dont know its april

Jean Segura was inspired by Tiger Woods and golfed one out of the park in the 14th.

Then the Phils survived Alvarez.
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: Don Ho on April 15, 2019, 07:29:22 AM
Yes it's the Marlins but damn the bullpen was in another solar system yesterday.  Sir Anthony, Hector and Arano were throwing nasty stuff.
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: ice grillin you on April 15, 2019, 07:18:26 PM
Nola is a validly bad pitcher
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: ice grillin you on April 15, 2019, 07:38:21 PM
Why the eff are you running there
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: MDS on April 15, 2019, 08:13:50 PM
nola all of a sudden cant throw strikes...his shtein aint good enough to overcome it
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on April 15, 2019, 08:33:09 PM
Yuge knock by JayTee

Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on April 15, 2019, 08:48:36 PM
Nola farging sucks

Good job giving it back, bitch
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: ice grillin you on April 15, 2019, 08:51:03 PM
Nola was always a number 3 or 4

heís naturally regressing to his mean
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: MDS on April 15, 2019, 08:55:26 PM
he cant get his curve over...hes throwing 2 pitches and neither one of them are special. 3rd time through the order a 2 pitch pitcher is gonna get lit no matter who he is

degrom had 2 horrid starts in a row, too. anyway nola in colorado this weekend sounds fun
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on April 15, 2019, 08:56:59 PM
So...what do they do about pitching?

Watch him, Pivetta and Velasquez get their tits lit? Itíll be broken up by decent starts from Arrieta and Eflin but they too are inconsistent
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on April 15, 2019, 08:58:17 PM
MOTHERfargIN Maik Maik
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: MDS on April 15, 2019, 09:01:11 PM
So...what do they do about pitching?

Watch him, Pivetta and Velasquez get their tits lit? Itíll be broken up by decent starts from Arrieta and Eflin but they too are inconsistent

velasquez has had 2 good starts but he is what he is...bottom of the rotation dude. pivetta might not even be good enough for that.

nola, if he cant control his off speed, will not even be in the majors. 2 pitch aaron nola throwing low 90s = what you saw tonight. if he can get his release point back on his change/curve he will be fine.
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: ice grillin you on April 15, 2019, 09:03:38 PM
Choke is pretty damn good
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on April 15, 2019, 09:06:34 PM
Yeah he is

Excited to hear Jimmy in the booth too doing games
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: MDS on April 15, 2019, 10:26:35 PM
franco destroys the ball and it happens to find mcniel's glove

baseball
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: AO1 on April 15, 2019, 10:31:57 PM
Odubel is not a smart ball player
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: MDS on April 15, 2019, 11:01:13 PM
adam morgan has been dy-no-mite this year
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on April 15, 2019, 11:05:12 PM
Time for Mikey to end this
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: Don Ho on April 15, 2019, 11:14:25 PM
Choke is pretty damn good

Yes he is.
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: Don Ho on April 15, 2019, 11:16:34 PM
Good call by Howard on Kingery not moving his ass on McCutcheon's single.  Move you overpaid prick!
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on April 15, 2019, 11:20:04 PM
Brutal swing by Segura to end that inning

Letís goooo
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: Don Ho on April 15, 2019, 11:22:25 PM
Horrible swing by Segura.
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on April 15, 2019, 11:23:11 PM
Oh goody

Neshek in to shtein all over this game
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: MDS on April 15, 2019, 11:24:51 PM
Oh goody

Neshek in to shtein all over this game

tell your fancy pants offense to scratch home a run
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: Don Ho on April 15, 2019, 11:29:00 PM
farg
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: Munson on April 15, 2019, 11:29:10 PM
Lol wtf was that caesar
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on April 15, 2019, 11:29:33 PM
Great play, Hoskins.

Booooooo
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: Don Ho on April 15, 2019, 11:30:07 PM
Was that throw for real?  A major league 2nd baseman?
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: Don Ho on April 15, 2019, 11:31:18 PM
What's worse, Hoskins half ass attempt or that throw?
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: AO1 on April 15, 2019, 11:31:46 PM
That throw but itís damn close
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: MDS on April 15, 2019, 11:32:12 PM
bryce popping up in the 8th was the game...loser gets paid to have in the least good at bats there

rhys sucks defensively, it is what it is with him. hes a dh.
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on April 15, 2019, 11:34:16 PM
Maybe Brycie will redeem himself for his shtein AB earlier

Or maybe get on and Hoskins can yank one and make people forget he sucks defensively
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on April 15, 2019, 11:35:01 PM
Nope. No interest in hitting fastballs grooved for him.

Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: Don Ho on April 15, 2019, 11:35:29 PM
bryce popping up in the 8th was the game...loser gets paid to have in the least good at bats there

rhys sucks defensively, it is what it is with him. hes a dh.

First pitch swing and that dude pitching was struggling. 

Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: Don Ho on April 15, 2019, 11:36:12 PM
Hoskins fielding on his ass and swinging from his ass
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on April 15, 2019, 11:36:17 PM
Lmaoooo Hoskins

Take a seat, meat. Awful farging AB
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: Don Ho on April 15, 2019, 11:37:35 PM
16 K's for the Mess.
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: MDS on April 15, 2019, 11:39:36 PM
lol we got some classic j rolling here

diaz is disgusting...nobody in the world is touching this
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: Don Ho on April 15, 2019, 11:45:14 PM
he cant get his curve over...hes throwing 2 pitches and neither one of them are special. 3rd time through the order a 2 pitch pitcher is gonna get lit no matter who he is

Todd, hope you don't mind me copying this verbatim over to the local Philly Sports Hawaii chat room I'm in.  Well said my friend.
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on April 15, 2019, 11:46:31 PM
Nola looks like Joe Roa

Hoskins plays defense like heís in a beer league softball game

Bryce ainít about the cold - wanted to be anywhere but CBP

Cesarís throw looked like a double amputee winged one

Awful loss
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: Don Ho on April 15, 2019, 11:46:44 PM
These clowns over here are blaming the weather.  Whatever, he's stunk his last two starts.
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: AO1 on April 16, 2019, 07:33:49 PM
Beat down
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: Munson on April 16, 2019, 07:46:57 PM
Lol I turned it on and saw the score...didnít even notice until just now that itís still the bottom of the 1st.
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: ice grillin you on April 16, 2019, 08:14:38 PM
Beat down

Nothing is safe with pivetta on the mound
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: Don Ho on April 16, 2019, 08:15:28 PM
You need 10 run cushion with Pishteinta pitching.
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: Don Ho on April 16, 2019, 08:17:25 PM
60 pitches through 3 innings, go get um' Nick!
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: MDS on April 16, 2019, 08:26:05 PM
pivetta is just horrible

horrible
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: Munson on April 16, 2019, 08:26:30 PM
Lol the TV cameras refuse to show the fan on the field.
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: MDS on April 16, 2019, 08:33:57 PM
if you think nola is going to get crushed in denver, wait until nick goes
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: Don Ho on April 16, 2019, 08:42:42 PM
if you think nola is going to get crushed in denver, wait until nick goes

Altitude sickness.
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: Don Ho on April 16, 2019, 08:57:02 PM
Jesus Pivetta, even a 10 run cushion wasn't enough to settle your ass down.
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on April 16, 2019, 09:04:13 PM
Better put up 10 a night with this shteinbag pitching staff
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: Geowhizzer on April 16, 2019, 09:28:23 PM
Kingery is bitch-slapping the Mets.

(https://beta-static.photobucket.com/images/c388/geowhizzer/gashousegorillas.gif)
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: MDS on April 16, 2019, 09:30:19 PM
Better put up 10 a night with this shteinbag pitching staff

the phillies are in 1st place in the nl east
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: General_Failure on April 16, 2019, 09:32:47 PM
Better put up 10 a night with this shteinbag pitching staff

the phillies are in 1st place in the nl east

Worst division ever?
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: MDS on April 16, 2019, 09:34:32 PM
Better put up 10 a night with this shteinbag pitching staff

the phillies are in 1st place in the nl east

Worst division ever?

its going to wind up having 4 of the best 11/12 best teams in baseball
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: Geowhizzer on April 16, 2019, 09:50:07 PM
LOL at Broxton on that Knapp liner.
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: MDS on April 16, 2019, 10:14:07 PM
they wont do it but eickhoff should absolutely start for pivetta on sunday
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: ice grillin you on April 17, 2019, 11:04:55 AM
pivetta - OUT
eickhoff - IN
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on April 17, 2019, 11:48:27 AM
they wont do it but eickhoff should absolutely start for pivetta on sunday

good call!

kinda like the tv predictions
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: MDS on April 17, 2019, 11:52:32 AM
i was wrong in thinking the worst franchise in sports history would do something sensible

tar and feather me
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: AO1 on April 17, 2019, 12:45:05 PM
Quote
Bob Nightengale

@BNightengale
 The New York #Mets and Philadelphia #Phillies are showing strong interest in Texas #Rangers ace Mike Minor, who is off to a dazzling start. He pitched a 3-hit CG shutout Tuesday vs. #Angels, and has a 1.27 ERA in his last three starts. He's owed $9.5 million this year and in 2020

Definite upgrade but if it goes through Iíll hold off depending on the compensation
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: ice grillin you on April 17, 2019, 02:44:06 PM
man how about kingery this year....normally youd say roman quinn right up and in for odubel but the way kingery is hitting how do you not at least try him out there first
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on April 17, 2019, 02:45:29 PM
i was just thinking the same thing
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on April 17, 2019, 02:46:15 PM
or play Kingery at 3rd and Franco at 1st and trade Hoskins
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: ice grillin you on April 17, 2019, 02:47:01 PM
or play Kingery at 3rd and Franco at 1st and trade Hoskins

pump your brakes.....hes had a good ten games

im talking about having him fill in for odubel while he is hurt instead of doing the completely obvious thing by calling up quinn and putting him in cf
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: MDS on April 17, 2019, 03:19:09 PM
man how about kingery this year....normally youd say roman quinn right up and in for odubel but the way kingery is hitting how do you not at least try him out there first

kingery has to play SS for the next few days with jean out. my guess is they IL odubel. you want roman in CF in coors anyway.

or play Kingery at 3rd and Franco at 1st and trade Hoskins

lol this is just...i dont even know
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on April 17, 2019, 03:31:19 PM
Mainly me being sick of Hoskins playing first like heís got no hands
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: ice grillin you on April 17, 2019, 03:31:45 PM
i wouldnt be surpised if segura is back tomorrow....his injury looked more precautionary....odubel fully grabbed at his hammy....i could see a ten day dl for him
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: MDS on April 17, 2019, 03:36:18 PM
Mainly me being sick of Hoskins playing first like heís got no hands

hes one of the faces of the franchise and a really productive middle of the order bat. his defense is terrible and always going to be terrible, but they arent going to trade him because of that. not to mention, the DH is coming.

i wouldnt be surpised if segura is back tomorrow....his injury looked more precautionary....odubel fully grabbed at his hammy....i could see a ten day dl for him

he said like 3-4 days...odubel IL makes sense
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: ice grillin you on April 17, 2019, 03:41:28 PM
hoskins stretch there was so bad
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: ice grillin you on April 17, 2019, 03:46:43 PM
my goodness is morgan throwing absolute garbage.....he needs to come out....he got so lucky there
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: ice grillin you on April 17, 2019, 03:55:48 PM
full on implosion
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on April 17, 2019, 03:55:48 PM
jesus christ they're gonna blow this
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: AO1 on April 17, 2019, 03:59:51 PM
Never a doubt Neris  :paranoid
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: ice grillin you on April 17, 2019, 04:00:02 PM
wowow....phew

he threw that right down the middle as he should have and broxton whiffed on it....terrible hitting....you arent always going to get an actual hit there but a major leaguer has to put his bat on that ball at the very least
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: MDS on April 17, 2019, 04:10:29 PM
good thing broxton stinks and couldnt recognize fastball

good call by realmuto. neris' split was a little iffy and you cant walk him there. you have to throw a strike...so call a fastball and hope for the best. it worked.
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on April 17, 2019, 04:18:34 PM
Agreed. Had to go heat there.
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: ice grillin you on April 17, 2019, 04:44:23 PM
3-2 bases loaded bottom of the 9th heat?

is some kind of analytics you guys are talking?
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on April 17, 2019, 09:14:21 PM
I donít deal in analytics.
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: MDS on April 17, 2019, 09:26:40 PM
I donít deal in analytics.

thats why youre the smart one and every single person in a decision making capacity on any team is stupid
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: ice grillin you on April 18, 2019, 10:36:15 AM
i think i might have heard of one of the rockie pitchers going this weekend (sunday they dont have an announced starter yet)

i have heard of all four of the phillies and they all suck
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on April 18, 2019, 01:58:47 PM
I donít deal in analytics.

thats why youre the smart one and every single person in a decision making capacity on any team is stupid

Correct
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: Geowhizzer on April 18, 2019, 10:18:47 PM
The Phils and Rockies are 0-0 in the 6th. ???
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: Don Ho on April 18, 2019, 10:22:19 PM
Put your everyone hits gif away tonight.
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: Don Ho on April 18, 2019, 10:23:20 PM
Eflin has no K's through 5?  Pitching well.
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: Don Ho on April 18, 2019, 10:28:20 PM
Error
Weak ass single
Home run (dude's first homer this season, old what's his name)

3-0 Rocks
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on April 18, 2019, 10:37:57 PM
Iíve got it on my iPad and looked down just as he cranked it.

Leave it to the Phils to gag on it in an offensive park. Wake the gotdamn bats up
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on April 18, 2019, 10:40:22 PM
Theyíre awake
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on April 18, 2019, 11:01:33 PM
Why is Alvarez on this team?
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on April 18, 2019, 11:02:45 PM
Lolol

Who is this farging guy??
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: Geowhizzer on April 19, 2019, 10:42:02 PM
What the hell is up with the hamstring injuries?  Now Kingery.
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on April 19, 2019, 10:42:55 PM
JFC and now McCutcheon

Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: Don Ho on April 19, 2019, 10:43:45 PM
M*A*S*H

WTF is going on?
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on April 19, 2019, 10:44:53 PM
Herrera
Segura
McCutcheon
Kingery

JFC
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: Geowhizzer on April 19, 2019, 10:45:13 PM
On the bright side, at least Altherr can't strike out at second base.
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: MDS on April 19, 2019, 10:50:04 PM
dylan cuzzo time with the mccutchen injury
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: Don Ho on April 19, 2019, 10:59:06 PM
RISP 1-10 tonight
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on April 19, 2019, 11:09:27 PM
Sigh...

Of course
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: MDS on April 19, 2019, 11:13:00 PM
Sigh...

Of course

the phillies are on pace for 99 wins
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: ice grillin you on April 19, 2019, 11:30:29 PM
They are also two games out of fourth place in the division
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on April 19, 2019, 11:32:53 PM
Realmuto has a farging gun
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: MDS on April 19, 2019, 11:37:38 PM
They are also two games out of fourth place in the division

their division is good and its going to be close all year...buckle in big boy

we all cant have free passes like j's astros
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on April 19, 2019, 11:43:18 PM
Astros/Phils WS??

Brycie...bro how do you miss those meatballs
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: MDS on April 19, 2019, 11:46:17 PM
Astros/Phils WS??

i cant say for sure but i think this might top texans/eagles for you....j heaven is houston v philly final
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: ice grillin you on April 19, 2019, 11:52:14 PM
They are also two games out of fourth place in the division

their division is good and its going to be close all year...buckle in big boy

we all cant have free passes like j's astros

You might be confusing competitive with good
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: MDS on April 20, 2019, 12:02:22 AM
nobodys good. everybody sucks. whats the point.
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: Don Ho on April 20, 2019, 12:26:10 AM
Way to swing at shtein Hoskins
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: Don Ho on April 20, 2019, 12:27:22 AM
whats worse, the three metro Hoydas in the orange hats behind home plate or Jabba Joe West?
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: Don Ho on April 20, 2019, 12:33:09 AM
That dude pitching was asking to get farged up, he had nothing.
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: Don Ho on April 20, 2019, 12:34:17 AM
How do you have 15 hits and only 2 runs in Denver?
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: Don Ho on April 20, 2019, 01:00:19 AM
Guess I can take 17 hits and 3 runs. Bullpen has been stellar tonight. 
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: Don Ho on April 20, 2019, 01:08:27 AM
OH MY GOD
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on April 20, 2019, 03:08:58 AM
Fell asleep

I see I saved myself the disgust of watching that live

But hey...on pace for 99 wins amiright
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: ice grillin you on April 20, 2019, 07:14:34 AM
But hey...on pace for 99 wins amiright

On pace to get swept this weekend
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on April 20, 2019, 08:03:16 AM
Well donít tell lil guy that!
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: MDS on April 20, 2019, 10:15:32 AM
that was the kind of loss where you question your life decision to follow this worthless franchise....4.5 hours of crap to watch your worst reliever serve up a 1-2 meatball with DREW BUTERA on deck

i just fundamentally do not understand how you come into blackmon with a terrible backup catcher on deck. but thats why he is juan nicasio, marginal major league reliever, and i am jew jeworodenker, marginal human person.
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on April 20, 2019, 04:02:57 PM
lolol all true. Love the JJ nickname.

Why is Nicasio still here? Alvarez too. They both farging suck
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: MDS on April 20, 2019, 04:08:13 PM
every bullpen has a few players who suck. you cant have 7 seranthony's where you're worried about both getting them consistent, high leverage work and limiting their innings so you dont ruin their arm. you have to have a few arms that you just dont care about and by and large those guys stink. the last guy out of the rockies pen is chad bettis, who is garbage. nicasio the guy who can go a week without pitching or pitch 3 days in a row because hes juan nicasio and he doesnt matter.

drew anderson is probably better than both of these guys but drew anderson needs to pitch consistently and being the 7th guy out of the bullpen does not guarantee that. they lost this specific game because the offense could not 1) get a hit with RISP 2) hit anything other than a single.

its a terrible loss but its not really on juan nicasio or the bullpen at large.
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on April 20, 2019, 04:11:07 PM
True. But still. Iíll deal with Nicasio if they can shteincan Alvarez
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: ice grillin you on April 20, 2019, 04:11:21 PM
Why is Nicasio still here? Alvarez too. They both farging suck

only hope is to hang on until july or august see if you are for real and then make a couple power moves....they dont have anyone to bring up

the guys who throw junk are what they are the thing really hurting them is searanthony...i dont know if its temporary regression or this is who he is but they need first half 2018 searanthony bad
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on April 20, 2019, 04:22:42 PM
Yup. Need him and Neris both
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: MDS on April 20, 2019, 04:30:11 PM
they need the offense to score more than 2-3 runs at coors is what they need

the only real complaint you can levy against the pen is that they dont have a guy as good as doolitte/diaz/jansen/hader like the other contenders do. its valid. and guess what. they aint getting one.
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: MDS on April 20, 2019, 05:21:34 PM
segura and kingery on the IL...hello 1 week of phil gosselin
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on April 20, 2019, 05:22:07 PM
Walding, Austin Davis and Anderson up

Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: ice grillin you on April 20, 2019, 05:27:40 PM
Walding, Austin Davis and Anderson up

theres like 27 first and last names in all this mix...throw in mitch and you could have a great game of come up with the best lacrosse name
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on April 20, 2019, 05:28:14 PM
Walding, Austin Davis and Anderson up

theres like 27 first and last names in all this mix...throw in mitch and you could have a great game of come up with the best lacrosse name

Missing a Brayden and Chase but for real
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: Don Ho on April 20, 2019, 05:56:51 PM
But hey...on pace for 99 wins amiright

On pace to get swept this weekend

Wouldn't be surprised, no confidence in Nola.
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: Don Ho on April 20, 2019, 05:59:01 PM
Walding, Austin Davis and Anderson up

theres like 27 first and last names in all this mix...throw in mitch and you could have a great game of come up with the best lacrosse name

HA :-D
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: Don Ho on April 20, 2019, 08:51:21 PM
Got to love the Cutch!

Way to farg with Joe West
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: Don Ho on April 20, 2019, 08:58:19 PM
Nola struggling early.  At least he didn't wait until the team gave him a nice cushion.
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: Don Ho on April 20, 2019, 09:02:00 PM
I just want to say it, I know its been said, many times, many ways..........Hoskins defense is atrocious.  Zero effort on that slow grounder by Phillies Killer Blackmon right past him
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: Don Ho on April 20, 2019, 09:03:05 PM
Nola, ugh.  33 pitches 6 hits 2 dongs
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: Don Ho on April 20, 2019, 09:05:01 PM
Nola pitching like shtein, again, bullpen spent.  This has another double digit slapping written all over it.
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: AO1 on April 20, 2019, 09:09:07 PM
Nola needs to unfarg himself
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: Don Ho on April 20, 2019, 09:25:54 PM
There ya go!  Clear that shtein
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: Don Ho on April 20, 2019, 10:51:44 PM
farg, Harper slides right into the wall feet first.  He looks fine running back in on third out.
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: Don Ho on April 20, 2019, 11:08:17 PM
And here we go..............same old shtein
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: Don Ho on April 20, 2019, 11:09:14 PM
Quinn having a hard time playing these bounces.  Blackmon owns these bitches.
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on April 21, 2019, 04:47:52 PM
farging Cesar

Moron
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: MDS on April 21, 2019, 05:27:01 PM
the moment that happened i knew the president of phillies twitter was not going to be happy
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on April 21, 2019, 05:31:53 PM
Who is that?
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: Geowhizzer on April 21, 2019, 05:33:23 PM
Who is that?

Barkann?

https://twitter.com/MBarkannNBCS/status/1120066554664824832
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: MDS on April 21, 2019, 05:37:10 PM
Who is that?

its as if you are right in the middle of matt gelbs mentions

phils need 1 run here your boy needs a wade davis save
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on April 21, 2019, 05:42:04 PM
Getting worked this series

Sad
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: MDS on April 21, 2019, 05:53:26 PM
if they come out of here 2-2 its a giant wash....but they blew the friday game so here we are

roman quinn has been a disaster this series. cesar too but they have no other middle infield options right now.
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: ice grillin you on April 21, 2019, 09:23:19 PM
if they come out of here 2-2 its a giant wash

guess what they didnít do
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: Geowhizzer on April 22, 2019, 05:10:47 PM
Rollins is in the booth tonight.
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on April 22, 2019, 09:32:01 PM
Thanks McCutcheon

Piss poor AB
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: Don Ho on April 22, 2019, 09:39:56 PM
Arrieta having a Nolaesque type night, battling, struggling, jams, working out of it. 
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on April 22, 2019, 09:42:13 PM
Except there where somehow Pete Alonso gets that through

Lololol on replay watching Hoskins effort is laughable

Heís a goddamn cigar store Indian defensively
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: Don Ho on April 22, 2019, 10:02:25 PM
and I thought Joe West was a donkey. 
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: Geowhizzer on April 22, 2019, 10:02:26 PM
Bye bye Bryce.
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: AO1 on April 22, 2019, 10:03:18 PM
Nice to see ĎGabeí go apeshtein. Strike zone is a joke tonight
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: MDS on April 22, 2019, 10:14:52 PM
amazing that its the 1st ejection since JUSTIN DE FRATUS in that 2015 game against the orioles where giles and papelbon put the bullpen phone off the hook so they wouldnt have to come in....francouer threw like 50 pitches...utley ripped sandberg

memories.
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on April 22, 2019, 10:21:13 PM
Why does Jeff McNeil week to kill them
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: MDS on April 22, 2019, 10:45:47 PM
j tell your precious offense to not suck
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: Don Ho on April 22, 2019, 10:46:33 PM
McNeil will be the next Freddie Freeman NL East pain in the ass.
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on April 22, 2019, 11:01:11 PM
lolol all true. Love the JJ nickname.

Why is Nicasio still here? Alvarez too. They both farging suck

Piece of shtein bums
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: Don Ho on April 22, 2019, 11:01:20 PM
I'm cheering for the rain.  Call this already. 
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: MDS on April 22, 2019, 11:02:21 PM
lolol all true. Love the JJ nickname.

Why is Nicasio still here? Alvarez too. They both farging suck

Piece of shtein bums

the phillies have scored 1 run
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on April 22, 2019, 11:04:24 PM
Ok and that is obviously a problem.

Quite deflecting off the fact that these two farging losers suck. And the fact they keep a spot on the roster is an issue.

So farging what if the Phils had scored 4. Or 5. Theyíre still giving it up too. Because of two zesty losers
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: MDS on April 22, 2019, 11:11:11 PM
the 7th and 8th members of the phillies bullpen could perform better. for the moment theyre sort of stuck with them because they dont have options and there really isnt anybody better to replace them.

it would have been fair to bring in drew anderson in this spot. but again i submit that every single team is not confident nor pleased with their performances of the bottom of their bullpens. there are only so many good relievers to go around. theyre down 3-1. top guys in the pen shant be wasted in such a spot. so it goes.
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: Don Ho on April 22, 2019, 11:26:54 PM
i submit that every single team is not confident nor pleased with their performances of the bottom of their bullpens.

Yep!  Par for every team in the league.  Don't get me wrong J, Alvarez & Nacasio would be lucky to play in the Police Activities League but we're stuck with ding and dong.  NEVER EVER did I think I'd be ok seeing Adam Morgan trot out to the mound.  Hell, I'm actually high on Hector too.

Stopped drinking after my hip replacement 6 weeks ago today.  May be time to start up again. 

Go Phils Go!
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: Don Ho on April 22, 2019, 11:28:48 PM
Is Roman Quinn 13 or 14?  Looks like a kid I saw at Game Stop this weekend.
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: Don Ho on April 22, 2019, 11:31:59 PM
Damn, speaking of hip replacement, watching Diaz' delivery is making me cringe.  Looks like his ankle is about to snap on his delivery.
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on April 22, 2019, 11:32:33 PM
Wish it wouldíve been rained out.

Lifeless jackasses
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on April 23, 2019, 12:47:29 AM
Whoa

Arrieta went IN

Called out Brycie and everyone else.

Either they respond or wilt like little delicate flowers. Season over before May?
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: ice grillin you on April 23, 2019, 07:08:51 AM
win pace update please
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: MDS on April 23, 2019, 09:04:52 AM
the phillies suck and the season is over
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: AO1 on April 23, 2019, 07:58:20 PM
Caesar is a turd
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: MDS on April 23, 2019, 08:04:17 PM
the moment kingery and segura get hurt is the moment cesar crumbles into a little leaguer....they literally have no one else who can play 2B. otherwise hed be benched.

scott barry missed the 2-2 pitch badly but eflin still gave up a double to the pitcher. shut up.
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on April 23, 2019, 08:16:12 PM
Do they come back tonight?
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on April 23, 2019, 08:24:06 PM
Is that 7 kís In a row?
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: MDS on April 23, 2019, 08:30:04 PM
Do they come back tonight?

franco thrown out by 20 feet. wheeler homers. not tonight, little dude.
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: Geowhizzer on April 23, 2019, 08:46:18 PM
Turn on the 76ers.  Much more fun.
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: MDS on April 23, 2019, 08:53:42 PM
frankly this game was a success because it got mitch walding another at bat and therefore strike out and thats really all im about these days
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on April 23, 2019, 09:24:21 PM
So they get murdered by a pitcher at the plate

Helluva response to the call out last night

Disgusting
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: ice grillin you on April 23, 2019, 09:37:10 PM
They are hopeless
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: MDS on April 23, 2019, 09:48:32 PM
They are hopeless

season over?
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on April 23, 2019, 10:02:21 PM
Rhys is a Hoyda

Iíd ask who gets plunked tomorrow but we all know that ainít how they roll
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: Don Ho on April 24, 2019, 08:59:00 PM
So the retaliatory beaning was at Todd Frazier, the leadoff batter of the inning. This team is so stupid.
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: MDS on April 24, 2019, 09:41:28 PM
bryce harper is post acl ryan howard

dont @ me
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: Geowhizzer on April 24, 2019, 10:06:18 PM
Stop me if you heard this one before:  Roman Quinn leaves the game with an injury.
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: Geowhizzer on April 24, 2019, 10:23:50 PM
Hoskins took his sweet time trotting around the bases on that home run.  The best revenge.
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: Don Ho on April 24, 2019, 10:35:15 PM
Stop me if you heard this one before:  Roman Quinn leaves the game with an injury.

Liar!
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: Don Ho on April 24, 2019, 10:37:09 PM
Don't care the circumstance, situation, point in the season, it just feels good to beat the Mess.
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: AO1 on April 24, 2019, 10:39:31 PM
Revenge is a dish best served in 34 seconds
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: MDS on April 24, 2019, 10:39:52 PM
next 6 are at home against miami and detroit....5-1 minimum needed
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on April 24, 2019, 10:51:34 PM
bryce harper is post acl ryan howard

dont @ me

Nah...stand by your man
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on April 24, 2019, 10:52:12 PM
What happened to Quinn?

Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on April 24, 2019, 10:53:15 PM
Revenge is a dish best served in 34 seconds

That was beautiful
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: Geowhizzer on April 24, 2019, 10:58:17 PM
What happened to Quinn?
 

If he was a race horse, he'd be shot.
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: MDS on April 24, 2019, 11:34:01 PM
bryce harper is post acl ryan howard

dont @ me

Nah...stand by your man

you hate bryce because he played like juco ball at 16 or something....or his hair, i dont know

i dont care about any of that. i just want him to not suck.
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: Rome on April 25, 2019, 04:58:39 AM
Has Hoskins crossed home plate yet?  I fell asleep during his trot.
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: Geowhizzer on April 25, 2019, 06:06:38 AM
bryce harper is post acl ryan howard

dont @ me

Nah...stand by your man

(https://66.media.tumblr.com/b7884048ac0082c1727121bb4340fe88/tumblr_oodx6bCVZ41qmob6ro1_500.gif)
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: MDS on April 25, 2019, 09:51:18 AM
the background on the beef: https://theathletic.com/944772/2019/04/25/how-baseballs-unwritten-rules-helped-awaken-a-mets-phillies-rivalry/

this is really stupid but if the phils are still gonna play then the mets can too. however, you shouldnt throw at someones head. the trot was awesome. plunk alonso in the face. ITS ON.
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: Don Ho on April 25, 2019, 07:58:00 PM
So VV is now the ace of this staff.

Nola and obligatory struggles starting earlier and earlier 
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: Don Ho on April 25, 2019, 08:30:43 PM
1 farging hit so far
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on April 25, 2019, 10:59:51 PM
Great job, shteinfargs
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: Don Ho on April 26, 2019, 04:56:12 AM
This home stand continues at this pace, Gabe in deep shtein.  Yes they have a lot of injuries but come on, Scott Kingery and ODH ain't the answer.  zesty farm system and VV as your main arm is a world of hurt. 
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: MDS on April 26, 2019, 11:13:35 AM
is getting 1 run in 10 innings against the marlins off a cbp homer from your 4th string SS not good?

meats will scream about gabe or neris or pitching but they stink these days because they arent scoring any runs. the pitching was always going to be kinda meh. sunday 1 run. monday 1 run. tuesday 0 runs. thursday 1 run. garbage. yell about that you cowards.
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: ice grillin you on April 26, 2019, 11:38:10 AM
is it time to blow it up?
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: MDS on April 26, 2019, 11:59:10 AM
since that all time day in washington, bryce has 2 homer and 9 rbis.

BUT PITCHING DURR
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on April 26, 2019, 06:22:28 PM
Stop being dense

Itís both. Neither the offense nor the pitching is any good right now
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: ice grillin you on April 26, 2019, 09:43:05 PM
hey mike mike
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: ice grillin you on April 26, 2019, 10:26:28 PM
nats and braves L's

lessgo
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: AO1 on April 26, 2019, 11:07:42 PM
Hopefully that pulls Harper outta this slump
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: ice grillin you on April 26, 2019, 11:10:11 PM
Jís boy nico warming
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: MDS on April 27, 2019, 12:30:03 AM
Stop being dense

It’s both. Neither the offense nor the pitching is any good right now

since the colorado series, theyve given up 36 runs and scored 25. this is less than a 4 era and would be good for top 10 in mlb. scoring not even 3 runs a game is bad. very bad. score more runs.
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on April 27, 2019, 12:50:37 AM
Jís boy nico warming

They won bc he didnít come in
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: MDS on April 27, 2019, 12:53:23 AM
i was there tonight...the old vet liberty bell outside the 3b gate is dope....there are 1000 games and shtein for 10 year olds to do instead of actually watching the game.....had a great view of bryce's bomb and damn was it a shot.....my life will be a victory if i never have to see sean rodriguez play baseball again
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: ice grillin you on April 27, 2019, 06:43:01 PM
DUB!!
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: MDS on April 27, 2019, 09:23:21 PM
so with seranthony broken their bullpen is down to neris, morgan and neshak

this isnt good
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: ice grillin you on April 27, 2019, 09:43:51 PM
Searanthony with the 18.00 era 3.00 whip hold
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: MDS on April 27, 2019, 09:46:34 PM
Searanthony with the 18.00 era 3.00 whip hold

jake with the win

Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: Don Ho on April 27, 2019, 11:06:07 PM
so with seranthony broken their bullpen is down to neris, morgan and neshak

this isnt good

It's awful.  Its so bad I actually am happy to see Adam Morgan out there.

And where's the speech to yourself Jake?  How bout a "I should have pitched better seeing this was a JV squad we played tonight".  Marlins with 17 farging hits!

5 run 5th and Bryce makes 2 outs. 
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: Rome on April 28, 2019, 05:53:39 PM
Eflin got the first complete game win for the Phils since 2016.  Iím not even sure how thatís possible. 
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on April 30, 2019, 08:06:10 PM
Of course

JFC
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on April 30, 2019, 08:44:29 PM
Helluva outing by Vinny

Even better offense
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: ice grillin you on April 30, 2019, 08:59:21 PM
Vin dog has certainly had worse starts but Iím not sure heís had a more annoying one

I swear there were like 25 two strikes foul balls against him
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: MDS on April 30, 2019, 09:10:20 PM
who is turnball and when is his induction to cooperstown

Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: ice grillin you on April 30, 2019, 09:19:59 PM
Phillies are the same offense they have been for five years where whoever they are facing that night is a must pick-up in fantasy
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: MDS on April 30, 2019, 09:24:55 PM
the tigers are a terrible team and theyre not even getting their best starter....at least the other teams in the nl east are mediocre too
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on April 30, 2019, 09:41:25 PM
The defense sucks

Cesar is a farging idiot and Hoskins plays like heís got feet for hands. Oh nice job, Brycie.
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: ice grillin you on April 30, 2019, 09:44:02 PM
Canít wait for Harper and Hoskins to go down meekly again here
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: MDS on April 30, 2019, 09:46:34 PM
The defense sucks

Cesar is a farging idiot and Hoskins plays like heís got feet for hands. Oh nice job, Brycie.

you mad bro?
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: ice grillin you on April 30, 2019, 09:49:25 PM
Canít wait for Harper and Hoskins to go down meekly again here


like clockwork

Harper rightfully getting his ass booed off the field
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: MDS on April 30, 2019, 09:52:40 PM
lol do harper and hoskins have somewhere to be...just horrendous abs
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: ice grillin you on April 30, 2019, 09:54:42 PM
the crowd should start doing Hoskins corny ass wave at them as they walk back to the dugout
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: MDS on April 30, 2019, 09:57:30 PM
tmac keeps harping on the cabrera play like A) the next dude didnt homer and B) the call wouldve gone their way

go away you fat jersey farg
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on April 30, 2019, 10:01:34 PM
The defense sucks

Cesar is a farging idiot and Hoskins plays like heís got feet for hands. Oh nice job, Brycie.

you mad bro?

Yes, actually. Lifeless effort again. This time against a team that farging sucks.
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: ice grillin you on April 30, 2019, 10:03:01 PM
tmac keeps harping on the cabrera play like A) the next dude didnt homer and B) the call wouldve gone their way

go away you fat jersey farg


just wait til they lose 3-2
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: MDS on April 30, 2019, 10:04:40 PM
i have no idea why neris is in the game. you need him for this weekend...if you try to force him into a game do it tomorrow.

theyre losing this game anyway. shoulda gotten whatever alvarez gave you
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: MDS on April 30, 2019, 10:08:08 PM
on the bright side the mets are too cheap to sign diaz to a long term deal so they are trying to protect him for his pre-arb years...i.e. not using him 3 days in a row....welp that didnt work tonight
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: ice grillin you on April 30, 2019, 10:19:39 PM
this game is exhibit A as to why no one watched baseball

four total runs and the Phillies were no hit for seven innings and the game was still well over three hours long
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on April 30, 2019, 10:19:54 PM
shtein ass game

farg these clowns. Get a goddamn hit once in awhile.
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: MDS on April 30, 2019, 10:21:08 PM
williams watches a 2-0 meatball go by him...cesar does cesar things...franco frozen by two hanging sliders

just a pathetic game all the way around. its april. whatever. go sixers.
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: Don Ho on May 01, 2019, 03:38:08 AM
that was disgusting last night.  Those three K's in the bottom of the ninth were pretty, pretty, pretty bad.

Takes more than wild pitches to win.
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on May 01, 2019, 09:23:28 PM
Sorry fargs canít score again
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: MDS on May 01, 2019, 09:36:35 PM
here comes daniel stumpf, who pitched 7 games for the phillies in 2016 before getting popped for roids and being offered back to KC

the only game the phillies won that he pitched in featured darin ruf, tyler goedell, peter bourjos, cedric hunter, cameron rupp, jeanmar gomez AND the legendary david hernandez. think about it, it could be worse.
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on May 01, 2019, 09:40:17 PM
Finally
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: MDS on May 01, 2019, 09:43:02 PM
see, all the phillies need in order to score is memories of the truly god awful 2016 team
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: Geowhizzer on May 01, 2019, 09:44:37 PM
The bats haven't been good lately.  Especially the 3 and 4 hitters.

(https://beta-static.photobucket.com/images/c388/geowhizzer/Whiff.gif)

Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: Geowhizzer on May 01, 2019, 09:48:09 PM
here comes daniel stumpf, who pitched 7 games for the phillies in 2016 before getting popped for roids and being offered back to KC

the only game the phillies won that he pitched in featured darin ruf, tyler goedell, peter bourjos, cedric hunter, cameron rupp, jeanmar gomez AND the legendary david hernandez. think about it, it could be worse.

(https://media0.giphy.com/media/3o6ZthowWvn7WlXc5y/giphy.gif)
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on May 01, 2019, 11:07:49 PM
Brycie hitting a robust .230

Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: MDS on May 01, 2019, 11:15:44 PM
Brycie hitting a robust .230

if theres one thing i know, its that bryce harper will be judged on his *squints to read fine print* batting average

his .848 OPS is beneath where it should be. its 68th best in MLB. .376 OBP is 42nd. hes had a terrible stretch and should be booed off the field but his overall numbers are actually above the league average.
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: QB Eagles on May 01, 2019, 11:56:11 PM
Heís being paid a little above the league average too.
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: ice grillin you on May 02, 2019, 05:35:33 AM
but his overall numbers are actually above the league average.

bwahahahaah
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: Rome on May 02, 2019, 07:03:26 AM
Batting average is a useless stat. 

OPS, though...  VITAL. 
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: MDS on May 02, 2019, 09:28:45 AM
Batting average is a useless stat. 

OPS, though...  VITAL.

correct. welcome to 2005.

Heís being paid a little above the league average too.

this is true but bryce's pricetag is inflated because hes bryce harper. if its merely based on production he wouldnt be a $25 million player. but hes a legit celebrity and a fixture on sportscenter, etc. so thats part of what youre paying for.

my thinking is that if after 1 bad month bryce is still the 60-something best player in baseball and a 0-win player (meaning hes not a negative), thats survivable. hes going to have stretches worse than this. anybody who thought they were getting mike trout is quickly finding out that this is not that.
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: Don Ho on May 03, 2019, 09:12:18 PM
Nick Williams is not a good baseball player.
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: MDS on May 03, 2019, 09:51:46 PM
i cant remember a strike zone as bad as bill miller had tonight

they won and everything but that was just insultingly bad
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: Don Ho on May 03, 2019, 11:12:14 PM
That last called third strike was in another county.
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: Rome on May 04, 2019, 08:34:46 AM
Miller was bad on both sides.  Therefore, he was fine.
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: Don Ho on May 04, 2019, 09:48:45 PM
Nacasio is another pos that needs to go.  Clueless farg.
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: Geowhizzer on May 04, 2019, 10:13:53 PM
This inning, though...

(https://beta-static.photobucket.com/images/c388/geowhizzer/gashousegorillas.gif)
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: Don Ho on May 04, 2019, 10:18:07 PM
Great inning!
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on May 04, 2019, 10:34:43 PM
Wtffff
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: Geowhizzer on May 04, 2019, 10:35:30 PM
Great inning!

Bullpen is, well...

(https://media.giphy.com/media/26uflNCWMts7TPwRO/giphy.gif)
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: Don Ho on May 04, 2019, 10:55:34 PM
Lose already

3 run cushion and BOOM!

Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: Don Ho on May 04, 2019, 10:56:22 PM
That's what the crowd gets for doing the stupid wave
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: MDS on May 05, 2019, 06:21:05 PM
the phillies have had 2 different bullpen implosions against the nats and havas and i were at each of them

so if you want to know why its happening, theres your answer
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: Don Ho on May 05, 2019, 06:23:23 PM
Todd I hope you kneed any A hole in the genitals next to you last night that participated in the wave.
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: ice grillin you on May 06, 2019, 08:11:59 AM
unfortunately the nats are not very serious injuries away from winning the division

I canít believe they are only five out with no turner rendon zimmerman and Soto

Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: MDS on May 06, 2019, 09:48:38 AM
zimmerman

lol
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: ice grillin you on May 06, 2019, 11:12:53 AM
zimmerman

lol

he would probably be the second best phillie
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on May 06, 2019, 09:26:52 PM
Havas drunk at 10am on a Monday I see

VV doing what he does...canít put people away and gives up foul balls. And just got jacked by old decrepit Yadi Mo
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: Munson on May 06, 2019, 09:48:07 PM
It's like VV goes out there trying to be a caricature of himself.
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on May 06, 2019, 09:48:34 PM
farg this shteinbag motherfarger
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: Don Ho on May 06, 2019, 09:57:41 PM
Taste of real baseball now for the bums.  Not there yet as this 5th inning has exemplified
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: MDS on May 06, 2019, 10:03:52 PM
farg this shteinbag motherfarger

i know vince stinks but your offense has like 2-3 no shows per week

call out your people or dont step to, junior
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on May 07, 2019, 12:51:18 PM
farg them too

especially YOUR boy, Bryce.
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: Don Ho on May 07, 2019, 05:12:46 PM
So VV shaking off Realmuto last night.  Get past the fifth inning then you can start shaking people off.
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: Rome on May 07, 2019, 07:04:48 PM
I've had enough of Velasquez and his AAAA garbage.  Time for a change there. 
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: Munson on May 07, 2019, 08:06:21 PM
Why is he not the long reliever by now? They have to realize that he's a perfect 5-6-7th inning type guy by now right?
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: Geowhizzer on May 07, 2019, 08:08:57 PM
Why is he not the long reliever by now? They have to realize that he's a perfect 5-6-7th inning type guy by now right?

Maybe when they sign Keuchel.
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: Geowhizzer on May 07, 2019, 08:15:02 PM
Why did that replay take so long?  Neither part of the play was close.
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on May 07, 2019, 08:26:29 PM
Hey look! Bryce finally got a big hit. Been awhile.
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: MDS on May 07, 2019, 08:46:57 PM
tmac's call on the bryce bomb was such a disgrace, he is so god damn bad
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on May 07, 2019, 08:56:47 PM
I just saw the highlight on him on the call

So awful
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: MDS on May 07, 2019, 09:10:30 PM
how stella nola got her his groove back

Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: Don Ho on May 07, 2019, 09:36:07 PM
This >>>>>>> Train wreck in Toronto
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: Geowhizzer on May 07, 2019, 09:39:15 PM
This >>>>>>> Train wreck in Toronto

Yeah, started back and forth.  Eventually settled on watching Nola deal.  Sixers don't want to play, I don't want to watch.

EDIT:  Of course.  I opened my big mouth.
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: Don Ho on May 07, 2019, 09:45:13 PM
Nola pitching great tonight
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: AO1 on May 08, 2019, 08:28:06 AM
Dave Montgomery R.I.P.

More appropriate for this thread
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: MDS on May 08, 2019, 04:46:38 PM
dont look now but the phils are 3 up in the division and 7 on the greatest team known to man - the washington nationals
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: Geowhizzer on May 08, 2019, 08:45:19 PM
Dave Montgomery R.I.P.

More appropriate for this thread

Must-read from Salisbury. (https://www.nbcsports.com/philadelphia/phillies/former-phillies-president-david-montgomery-dies-72)
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: Geowhizzer on May 08, 2019, 10:06:47 PM
Another good article on Montgomery from Jayson Stark.   (https://theathletic.com/968489/2019/05/08/stark-a-remembrance-of-phillies-chairman-david-montgomery-who-made-everyone-feel-like-family/)

It's the Athletic, but it's been unlocked.
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: ice grillin you on May 10, 2019, 08:35:13 AM
if you can afford it and arent paying for the athletic you are doing something wrong

its amazing
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: MDS on May 10, 2019, 05:58:05 PM
valid take

gelb is so far away the best beat its honestly a joke....and the other ones arent that bad. this isnt a bodner situation where hes going up against garbage like pompey
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: ice grillin you on May 11, 2019, 08:43:21 PM
just chiming in to say how much I wanna murder Tom McCarthy
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: Geowhizzer on May 11, 2019, 09:44:07 PM
Can't say enough about Eflin's efforts to this point of the season.  The lack of strikeouts would suggest that it's not sustainable, but he's been remarkably efficient.
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: ice grillin you on May 11, 2019, 09:58:50 PM
Bryce Harper is a waste of life
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: AO1 on May 11, 2019, 10:15:54 PM
Can't say enough about Eflin's efforts to this point of the season.  The lack of strikeouts would suggest that it's not sustainable, but he's been remarkably efficient.

Caught his start against the Marlins (Phanatics Birthday). He has a really live arm. Another gem tonight (as he gives up a double)
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: Don Ho on May 12, 2019, 05:47:16 AM
yes, that was beautiful last night.  Efficient is correct Geo.  Nola starting to get his shtein together, Eickhoff looking steady and Arrieta stops giving up monster bombs (never mind his offense goes AWOL every time he pitches) they may have a descent staff.

Praying Harper gets to .250 by Memorial Day
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on May 12, 2019, 08:50:06 PM
Bryce Harper is a waste of life

Donít let lil guy hear you say that
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: MDS on May 12, 2019, 11:43:48 PM
complain all you want about bryce but i cant think of anything more pointless

hes going to be batting 3rd and playing rf for the next 1000 years...there is nothing good or bad to say about him
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: ice grillin you on May 12, 2019, 11:49:49 PM
Wait a second

itís pointless to care about your best player for the next 13 years being a pos?

Iíll remember that next time you complain about literally any sports player
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: MDS on May 13, 2019, 12:00:22 AM
literally no other sports player has a 13 year contract

you can care, i do too, but no matter what happens - good or bad - bryce is hitting 3rd in 2019, 2022 and 2026. zero other players have this kind of job guarantee.
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: ice grillin you on May 13, 2019, 12:07:05 AM
So Carson wentz can be criticized now but not when he signs a long deal?
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: AO1 on May 13, 2019, 12:32:39 AM
So Carson wentz can be criticized now but not when he signs a long deal?

Money does factor in. Nobody complained much about Ryan Howard, once he signed his mega deal he was fair game.
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: QB Eagles on May 13, 2019, 12:39:06 AM
No one complained about Ryan Howard prior to his mega deal because he was a perennial NL MVP candidate before that deal. That even happened before he struck out looking against the Giants to end 2010.
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: ice grillin you on May 13, 2019, 12:41:44 AM
So Carson wentz can be criticized now but not when he signs a long deal?

Money does factor in. Nobody complained much about Ryan Howard, once he signed his mega deal he was fair game.

Lol what?

he was booed his whole career for striking out too much
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: AO1 on May 13, 2019, 12:43:35 AM
So Carson wentz can be criticized now but not when he signs a long deal?

Money does factor in. Nobody complained much about Ryan Howard, once he signed his mega deal he was fair game.

Lol what?

he was booed his whole career for striking out too much

Not at the level he was once he signed his mega deal. The first few years fans loved him more than Grit
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: ice grillin you on May 13, 2019, 12:46:19 AM
Quote from: AO1 link=topic=22063.msg1105986#msg1105986 date=1557722615The first few fans loved him more than Grit
[/quote

romey level troll

kudos
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: AO1 on May 13, 2019, 12:49:26 AM
The year Howard hit 58 hrs he was the biggest star In Philly by a long shot.
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: Don Ho on May 13, 2019, 04:36:40 AM
No one complained about Ryan Howard prior to his mega deal because he was a perennial NL MVP candidate before that deal. That even happened before he struck out looking against the Giants to end 2010.

Ouch, that still hurts.
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: ice grillin you on May 13, 2019, 08:13:50 PM
Garbage Nola is back

six of his nine starts have now been shtein
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: MDS on May 13, 2019, 08:20:28 PM
Garbage Nola is back

six of his nine starts have now been shtein

4/9

today he has zero fastball command and its brutal to watch
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: ice grillin you on May 13, 2019, 08:23:00 PM
he was never going to be a top of the rotation guy but he could try not to be trash
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: MDS on May 13, 2019, 08:27:49 PM
does espn have any good baseball broadcast teams? anything is better than tmac but good lord
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: ice grillin you on May 13, 2019, 08:29:43 PM
holy shtein is Harper bad
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: Don Ho on May 13, 2019, 08:39:49 PM
Jesus Harper, c'mon! 
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: MDS on May 13, 2019, 08:40:47 PM
lock of the century is bryce to k after the first 2 guys get on

generally you can always bank on him for a walk but that's prime flail zone
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on May 13, 2019, 09:25:40 PM
Hey look! Nola is pitching like shtein again!
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: Don Ho on May 13, 2019, 09:28:58 PM
Nola is luckier than shtein bums only down a run.  84 pitches through three innings. 
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: Don Ho on May 13, 2019, 09:32:23 PM
Whoa!  Bryce, are you alive?
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on May 13, 2019, 09:33:58 PM
Nice AB, 330.
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on May 13, 2019, 09:43:51 PM
Probably be able to get to bed early tonight

Lifeless fargs
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: Don Ho on May 13, 2019, 09:48:56 PM
Can't wait for "the delayed start threw us off" excuse.
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: Don Ho on May 13, 2019, 09:52:44 PM
I'll give Davis the benefit of the doubt here, probably thinking "WTF am I doing out here in top of the 4th?"
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: MDS on May 13, 2019, 09:54:58 PM
i feel like the phillies are j's therapy session and he's only able to let it out when they play poorly

the anger boils up and comes out when aaron nola cant throw a 4 seamer over the plate
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on May 13, 2019, 10:19:01 PM
i feel like the phillies are j's therapy session and he's only able to let it out when they play poorly

the anger boils up and comes out when aaron nola cant throw a 4 seamer over the plate

Kinda sorta
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on May 13, 2019, 10:25:05 PM
Nicasio and Alvarez almost farged it up. They wanted to. Tried to.
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: MDS on May 13, 2019, 10:26:10 PM
i feel like the phillies are j's therapy session and he's only able to let it out when they play poorly

the anger boils up and comes out when aaron nola cant throw a 4 seamer over the plate

Kinda sorta

question is are you rooting against them more than your boy....because i hate to break the news to you but theyre decent now
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on May 13, 2019, 10:29:35 PM
i feel like the phillies are j's therapy session and he's only able to let it out when they play poorly

the anger boils up and comes out when aaron nola cant throw a 4 seamer over the plate

Kinda sorta

question is are you rooting against them more than your boy....because i hate to break the news to you but theyre decent now

I donít root against my teams

I am rooting against the broadcast pimping the awful forced GOT theme.

Oh look...another K by Mr. 330....
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: ice grillin you on May 13, 2019, 10:30:50 PM
Itís chilling how bad Bryce Harper is
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on May 13, 2019, 10:32:00 PM
farg yes Cesar!!
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: AO1 on May 13, 2019, 10:34:50 PM
Hail Caesar! (Still a bum)

Harper with 3 kís on the night...the chorus of boos keeps getting louder.
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: MDS on May 13, 2019, 10:44:02 PM
i believe bryce is now tied for the mlb lead in k's

hes got a great shot at the platinum sombrero
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: Don Ho on May 13, 2019, 11:10:30 PM
hhhmmm, $300MM for a defensive right fielder.
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: Don Ho on May 13, 2019, 11:34:24 PM
Hey!  Look at this shtein!
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: MDS on May 13, 2019, 11:38:26 PM
the phillies are good?
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on May 14, 2019, 07:38:55 AM
I fell asleep. Good to see they won.
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: MDS on May 14, 2019, 07:24:24 PM
I fell asleep. Good to see they won.

grandpa
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: Don Ho on May 14, 2019, 08:58:41 PM
oh farg
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: Don Ho on May 14, 2019, 08:59:24 PM
GRIT!
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: Don Ho on May 14, 2019, 09:05:52 PM
GRITTIER!
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on May 14, 2019, 09:06:02 PM
I fell asleep. Good to see they won.

grandpa

Looks like an early night again tonight too
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on May 15, 2019, 08:05:36 PM
And another one tonight

Maybe Arrieta should zip his lips until he isnít getting bombed or walking everyone
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on May 15, 2019, 08:34:16 PM
JFC

This is rough to watch

Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: MDS on May 15, 2019, 09:05:03 PM
j is the season over
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: ice grillin you on May 15, 2019, 09:36:11 PM
the phillies are good?

lolol
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on May 15, 2019, 10:11:37 PM
j is the season over

If they donít hit or get some decent pitching.

Nola looks like shtein. So does Arrieta. Eflin is the only guy pitching well. The BP consists of slopballing bums or inconsistent guys.

Mr 330 is flirting with the Mendoza Line. McCutcheon isnít too far behind him. And they have some ham fisted stupid fargs on defense.
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: MDS on May 15, 2019, 10:37:16 PM
wow they are really bad oh my god everyone sucks
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: ice grillin you on May 16, 2019, 10:16:30 AM
everyone doesnt sucks but they arent good

you know what is good?

powder blues
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: Geowhizzer on May 16, 2019, 11:36:10 AM
They're not great, but they currently do have the 3rd best record in the NL (I think 8th overall, but I may have missed one in the AL in a rush).  And that's with Harper and Nola stinking up the joint.

Nola needs to get better.  He may not be what he looked like last year, but he needs to be better than the dreg that's been getting shelled this year.

Arrieta... meh.  I'm afraid what we're seeing is what we're going to get.  Utter mediocrity.

The trading deadline will ultimately decide what will happen this season.  You could tell that the front office didn't trust the roster  last year, because they really didn't try to get high-end talent.

Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: ice grillin you on May 16, 2019, 12:07:05 PM
arrieta declining for four straight years at his age was expected

harpers strikeout rate now has gone up for four straight years...at 26 that should not be happening
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: Geowhizzer on May 16, 2019, 12:20:59 PM
arrieta declining for four straight years at his age was expected

harpers strikeout rate now has gone up for four straight years...at 26 that should not be happening

I'd like to see Harper not swing like he's an extra in Game of Thrones.  He doesn't need to do that to generate power.
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: AO1 on May 16, 2019, 01:44:14 PM
arrieta declining for four straight years at his age was expected

harpers strikeout rate now has gone up for four straight years...at 26 that should not be happening

I'd like to see Harper not swing like he's an extra in Game of Thrones.  He doesn't need to do that to generate power.

This is very accurate

When Harper signed with the Phillies everyone assumed his home runs numbers would go up because he was hitting at CBP. Every HR heís hit would have gone out at any park.

Caesar with another boneheaded fielding play
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: ice grillin you on May 16, 2019, 03:21:32 PM
i think the brewers are just a teeny bit better than the phils
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on May 16, 2019, 05:10:22 PM
Stellar series
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: MDS on May 16, 2019, 08:40:06 PM
they really shouldve been swept

not ready for the big boys yet...next 10 could get ugly and it will get real real for kap
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: Don Ho on May 17, 2019, 08:01:28 PM
^^^Damn you Todd!  That is so spot on^^^

If this weekend and next week doesn't go well and they play like ass again, Gabe better start looking over his shoulder.

Not his fault Bryce fanning at everything, his pitching staff is in a real bad funk and the bullpen is, well the bullpen is what it is.  Go Team Go!
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: Don Ho on May 17, 2019, 08:02:10 PM
Nice start, first two guys on get caught stealing. 
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on May 17, 2019, 08:11:53 PM
JESUS fargING CHRIST

they canít even make little league defensive plays
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: Don Ho on May 17, 2019, 08:16:01 PM
Add zesty defense to the list.  WTF!
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: Rome on May 17, 2019, 08:25:02 PM
Paging Chuck Knoblaugh...
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: Geowhizzer on May 17, 2019, 08:29:54 PM
This team is doing nothing right currently...
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: MDS on May 17, 2019, 09:23:59 PM
their defense is...wow this is next level bed

yet theyre winning. baseball.
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on May 17, 2019, 09:33:51 PM
Mr 330 got a hit

Check his bat for cork
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: MDS on May 17, 2019, 09:47:21 PM
cesar is destroying them at 2B but is really in a zone at the plate

this makes sense
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on May 17, 2019, 09:58:01 PM
One run game

Any doubt they blow this?
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on May 17, 2019, 10:05:41 PM
Jean Jean the hit machine

Heís raking
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on May 17, 2019, 10:27:27 PM
Hallelujah.

Beautiful split to end it
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: MDS on May 17, 2019, 10:30:37 PM
i cant believe the worst team in the history of sports won a game
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on May 18, 2019, 04:41:00 PM
Impressive bomb by Brycie Mendoza
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: Rome on May 18, 2019, 05:23:31 PM
That was a goddamn moonshot. 
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: Geowhizzer on May 18, 2019, 05:29:43 PM
THIS is the Nola the Phils need.
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: MDS on May 18, 2019, 08:26:21 PM
they cant possibly ever go anywhere with these offensive inconsistencies

its either 1 run or 11
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: MDS on May 19, 2019, 03:48:48 PM
bryce heating up just in time for joe maddon to walk him 100 times this week
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: ice grillin you on May 19, 2019, 04:19:13 PM
Impressive bomb by Brycie Mendoza

lol
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: MDS on May 19, 2019, 04:21:08 PM
MAGA chud daniel murphy is super washed up
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: ice grillin you on May 19, 2019, 04:21:52 PM
I still label them as suspect in a postseason situation but their bullpen has been really good
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: MDS on May 19, 2019, 04:40:37 PM
the phillies wind up 4-3 this week even though the first 4 games were just dreadful

baseball?
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on May 19, 2019, 05:18:37 PM
Nice win.

It would be nice to carry it over into Chicago
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: MDS on May 19, 2019, 09:36:32 PM
it would be nice?
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on May 20, 2019, 09:51:35 PM
It would be nice if the bums could hit around Yu farging Darvish

Helluva throw by SeŮor Mendoza
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on May 20, 2019, 10:05:01 PM
Hoskins is a right handed Von Hayes

JFC what a zesty AB
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on May 20, 2019, 10:08:01 PM
JTTTTTTTTTTT
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on May 20, 2019, 10:10:13 PM
Atta baby Cesar!!!
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: MDS on May 20, 2019, 10:30:35 PM
odubel is a 100% timing hitter and he hasnt had his timing since last may....i believe he has options, sending him down to try to get that makes sense once roman comes back. this is brutal.

franco not so quietly has been atrocious, too, but historically hes had long stretches of all-star and sub-replacement level player play. we're getting the latter now.

lock of the century was jake being on in chicago. he wishes he was still on the cubs.

cesar is beyond locked in. cant field for shtein but hes carrying them on offense. jt's been a rock in the middle of the lineup. lot of streaky players around him but he keeps it consistent.
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on May 20, 2019, 10:57:22 PM
WHAT THE fargING HELL WAS THAT

fargING LOUSY ASS MOTHERfargERS
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: Don Ho on May 20, 2019, 10:57:49 PM
Now we can talk about what a zesty fielder ODH is.  That was all-time dip shtein.
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: Don Ho on May 20, 2019, 10:59:16 PM
shtein, they would have had him at third.

Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on May 20, 2019, 11:00:59 PM
Seriously.

1. Stop throwing Dominguez multiple innings
2. They struggle to make the simplest defensive plays like covering first
3. That was a catchable ball
4. Brutal loss
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: MDS on May 20, 2019, 11:01:14 PM
first loss you can really put on gabe

just should not have sent seranthony for a 2nd inning and shouldve gotten him after the b2b walks. life isnt easy when you have 4 reliable bullpen arms and they were all used over the past 3 days. tried to steal another inning with him and got caught.

quite unlucky with the throw hitting descalso's foot, but you make your own luck late in the game with freebie's
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on May 20, 2019, 11:08:38 PM
Lousy farging AB by that little shtein Kingery
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: MDS on May 20, 2019, 11:15:36 PM
the phillies will always be the phillies...jean tries to get 2nd for no reason.

1) it was going to be close
2) if you make it, bryce doesnt bat

i believe thats their first 9th inning rally of the year, though.
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on May 20, 2019, 11:16:10 PM
He was safe but stupid decision

Why even have replay if they canít get that shtein right
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: Don Ho on May 20, 2019, 11:16:20 PM
WTF!  Out?  He was safe.  Didn't like him trying to stretch that out but he was definitely safe.
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: Don Ho on May 20, 2019, 11:21:06 PM
Good call Todd, he's safe there, Papa Joe ain't pitching to Harper.  Some dumb baseball tonight.
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: Don Ho on May 20, 2019, 11:23:23 PM
Nice work Hector you fokah!
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: MDS on May 20, 2019, 11:25:57 PM
the out call was a little too close to overturn. similar to the earlier segura replay....one goes for you, one goes against you. fair is fair.

they really need this game because the bullpen situation tomorrow is gonna be rough.
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on May 20, 2019, 11:30:08 PM
Too close to overturn?! His hand was in.

Whenís the last time Hoskins had a hit?
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: Don Ho on May 20, 2019, 11:31:57 PM
Whatever Ben just said!
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: Don Ho on May 20, 2019, 11:32:42 PM
And yes J, Hoskins MIA.
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: MDS on May 20, 2019, 11:34:18 PM
Too close to overturn?! His hand was in.

Whenís the last time Hoskins had a hit?

nah you couldnt tell...his glove mightve been on it. just not quite enough there.

rhys is a streaky mofo and hes in a bad place right now. hang tough. meanwhile go marlins.
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on May 20, 2019, 11:34:30 PM
JTTTTTTTT

ok letís finish this shtein off
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: MDS on May 20, 2019, 11:38:44 PM
going on record to say i have no clue what gabe is doing here

morgan is in for the 3rd straight day, so i get 1 better, but neris had more in the tank. saving him for tomorrow? this is going to end well.
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on May 20, 2019, 11:40:04 PM
Juan Nicasio

farging great
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: Don Ho on May 20, 2019, 11:40:33 PM
I second that
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: Don Ho on May 20, 2019, 11:42:56 PM
Oh farg you umpires.  Paranoid mess.
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: MDS on May 20, 2019, 11:43:28 PM
that was their best win of the year
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on May 20, 2019, 11:44:12 PM
Hallelujah

Did not expect that

Maik Maikís double
Cutch working a walk
Jean Jean The Hit Machine clutchness
JT Forealmuto

Yuge
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: Rome on May 21, 2019, 05:46:25 AM
2007-2011 Jay is BACK!

Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on May 21, 2019, 02:13:29 PM
The Nats are now 9 out and sitting at 19-28

Ryan Zimmerman better hurry up and get back so he can flip that record for them!
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: MDS on May 21, 2019, 09:10:16 PM
why is this offense so bad every 3rd game
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on May 21, 2019, 09:20:35 PM
Quintana is a bum and they made him look great

Lets farging go
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: MDS on May 21, 2019, 09:21:53 PM
he is not a bum by any stretch of the imagination but he should not be able to pitch 6 easy shutout innings....gotta get something
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on May 21, 2019, 09:36:23 PM
Atta baby McClutchen!!
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: MDS on May 21, 2019, 09:38:36 PM
i didnt understand pinch hitting herrera there...he is in a bad place and that was not the spot for him. in the end worked out though.
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: MDS on May 21, 2019, 09:41:31 PM
likely going neshek-neris for the final 6 outs

so getting these 3 with no ser/morgan is going to be...yikes
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on May 21, 2019, 10:29:35 PM
Of course a leadoff walk

Come on Hector...need a 4-6-3 here
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on May 21, 2019, 10:31:48 PM
Jesus Christ

0-2 and he gives up a double

shtein
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on May 21, 2019, 10:32:27 PM
Not scoring Kingery is huge obviously

Letís go plz donít blow this
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: Geowhizzer on May 21, 2019, 10:34:35 PM
Ummm... Why is Nicasio pitching the ninth?  Is everyone else dead?
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on May 21, 2019, 10:38:20 PM
Jesus I just realized that Nicasio is in and not Neris

Iím scared
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on May 21, 2019, 10:40:26 PM
Lmaooooo

Of course
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: AO1 on May 21, 2019, 10:44:45 PM
That ending was GoT level bad
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on May 21, 2019, 10:45:07 PM
Tanned Nutsack can jam his bullpen by committee right up his ass

farg off Gabe
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: MDS on May 21, 2019, 10:45:11 PM
Ummm... Why is Nicasio pitching the ninth?  Is everyone else dead?

yup

they almost stole this but nicasio in a 1 run game vs. top of cubs order was way too much to ask. bad luck with the dribbler scoring bryant.

point blank offense needs to generate more than 2 runs. shtein's on them.
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: MDS on May 21, 2019, 10:46:12 PM
Tanned Nutsack can jam his bullpen by committee right up his ass

farg off Gabe

shouldve gone to de los santos, right?

top 4 arms unavailable. what would you have liked him to do?
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on May 21, 2019, 10:46:34 PM
Here comes the ďblame the offense tooĒ

Ya know you have to win 2-1, 3-1 games too right?
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: MDS on May 21, 2019, 10:49:25 PM
Here comes the “blame the offense too”

Ya know you have to win 2-1, 3-1 games too right?

you know juan nicasio sucks?

if hector or neshek blow it, then yeah, different. everyone knew they needed to score with the bullpen what it was and they didnt. tell your heroes to do better. nicasio is paid to eat innings not to get high leverage outs.
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: ice grillin you on May 21, 2019, 10:57:25 PM
This all on Gabe

nucasio is straight garbage unless heís in mop up time

Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: MDS on May 21, 2019, 11:12:33 PM
This all on Gabe

nucasio is straight garbage unless heís in mop up time

its fair to criticize bullpen management over the past 4 days, but they were close games and your important arms were needed. im not sure what he shouldve done differently, but the fact of the matter is yes you need a better option than nicasio in the 9th.

the question is why wasnt neshek available and the answer is becuase hes a drama queen old man who can only be used when he feels just so.

with what he had tonight, there really wasnt much of an option other than score more runs which they did not do.
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: Rome on May 22, 2019, 05:25:20 AM
They only have 5 blown saves all season.  It feels like more and not having anyone better than Nicasio is stupid, but roster appropriations isnít Gabeís responsibility.   Iíll rip him for a lot of things and his overall bullpen management has been idiotic, but Nicasio belongs nowhere near a first place team like the Phillies.  And thatís on Klentak. 
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: AO1 on May 22, 2019, 07:12:51 AM
Theyíre without Robertson, Hunter and Arano. Not saying the latter two are great but theyíre not Nicasio level bad.
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: phattymatty on May 22, 2019, 11:32:25 AM
so a professional athlete could not pitch last night because he warmed up the night before?  baseball is so stupid.
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: Rome on May 22, 2019, 12:10:29 PM
Yeah but the Phanatic is awesome. 
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: AO1 on May 22, 2019, 12:34:22 PM
so a professional athlete could not pitch last night because he warmed up the night before?  baseball is so stupid.

Yeah I mean itís only 1 inning and itís for a win so I donít see the big deal but sabremetrics
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: MDS on May 22, 2019, 01:53:34 PM
this has nothing to do with sabermetrics, something neither you or my cousin can even define. and again i just need to repeat even though im probably being trolled EVERY SINGLE SUCCESSFUL TEAM USES ADVANCED METRICS IN TALENT EVALUATIONS AND FOR DECISION MAKING. the dodgers, astros, the red sox, the cubs, the rays and on and on. the phillies didnt do any of this and thats why they cratered when the 07-11 players aged. they are doing it now. get angry.

also bear in mind the nicasio was probably the 10th best reliever in camp. due to injuries he easily made the team. he is a long man/eatings eater. he is sufficient in this role. asking him to deliver 3 outs amid 0 runs vs. that portion of the cubs lineup is not ideal.
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: Geowhizzer on May 22, 2019, 02:15:36 PM
Neshek is soft as Charmin.
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: AO1 on May 22, 2019, 02:16:13 PM
One reliever could have sucked it up for an inning. It was a one run game against the heart of their lineup not a 4 run lead. Nerd
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: MDS on May 22, 2019, 02:33:20 PM
One reliever could have sucked it up for an inning. It was a one run game against the heart of their lineup not a 4 run lead. Nerd

i agree...neris couldve have just started warming up on his own...but relievers have been getting days off since before any team built a super computer. this is more about the bullpen depth issues and lack of consistent offense.
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: Don Ho on May 22, 2019, 06:13:33 PM
Exactly!  There is no bullpen depth.  The second we all realized it was Nicasio on the mound in the bottom of the 9th it was over.  He looked like a frightened turtle pitching to Bryant.  Walk, double, fly out, int. walk, Fielders choice which lead to that pathetic lob home, single, lights out.  I wanted to get mad but like I said we all knew this was not going to end well once he walked Bryant.

And this offense can't have 5< hits 3-4 games in a row, have the one offensive explosion and repeat the cycle and think it's all good. Not with this current bullpen.  Can only improve when Robertson and Arano return.  Right?
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on May 22, 2019, 07:20:48 PM
When are Robertson and the humans jugs machine Hunter coming back?
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on May 22, 2019, 09:11:15 PM
Welp.

Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: Geowhizzer on May 22, 2019, 09:14:59 PM
https://twitter.com/matt_breen/status/1131366051587993601
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: AO1 on May 22, 2019, 09:24:07 PM
Post June 1st they can sign a free agent and not have it farg up their draft picks. Iím not a Kimbrell guy but Iíd overpay for his services on a 1 year deal
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: MDS on May 22, 2019, 09:54:23 PM
kike-ol is more likely to sign a 1 year. kimbrel is at least getting 2.

moving pivetta and velasquez to the pen could help a lot. you get robertson back, its not bad. what's hurting them is having 4 reliable arms and then slop. youre gonna get caught more often than the mean with that.
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on May 22, 2019, 09:57:31 PM
Jesus farging Christ

Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: MDS on May 22, 2019, 09:58:23 PM
j are you ok? deep breaths bud
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: AO1 on May 22, 2019, 10:51:09 PM
Good thing they rested their relievers
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: MDS on May 22, 2019, 10:59:09 PM
Good thing they rested their relievers

for real...you had to know AAA cole irvin was going to be lit up. take the L tomorrow and get the W when you had it.
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on May 22, 2019, 11:57:19 PM
j are you ok? deep breaths bud

I am now, thanks. Not earlier when homeboy yaks up an 84mph center cut batting practice ďheaterĒ down the pipe
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: Don Ho on May 23, 2019, 12:52:36 AM
We can shtein on the offense tonight.  The rookie got lit up by the usual suspects in Wrigley, that part I get BUT how do the first 5 batters get 11 hits and only get 3 across the plate? 

Chicago Sun Times:

"Who needs Bryce Harper? Cubs slug past Phillies 8-4"
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: Rome on May 23, 2019, 05:19:46 PM
7-0 laugher with their ďaceĒ cruising has melted to an 8-6 nail biter. 

Kneeshake is pure garbage. 
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: AO1 on May 23, 2019, 06:17:30 PM
That felt like the longest game in mlb history
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on May 23, 2019, 06:44:11 PM
Didnít get to see it but just looked at the boxscore

Helluva job Neshek. Bum

At least they hit today
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: Rome on May 23, 2019, 06:44:27 PM
Todayís game took 3:55 to play.  The 23-22 game took 4:03.

MLB has a lot of problems but slow play is ruining the game.  That and atrocious farging bullpen management
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: MDS on May 23, 2019, 07:22:22 PM
neshek had a drama queen act all week, finally gets in....and then that. yeesh. this game was just silly. putting a ton of thought into a weird afternoon getaway game defeats the purpose of the meandering nature of regular season baseball. they came away 2-2 in a 4-gamer against a WS contender. this is good.

hot take but i dont think game length has any correlation to interest level. its action length. people dont think baseball is boring because it takes long. people think its boring because 15 minutes go by in between things happening. thats the issue. im not sure what the fix is other than a strict pitch clock or creating a cap on foul balls.

Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: QB Eagles on May 23, 2019, 07:41:19 PM
It's the time between pitches and the pitching changes. Throw in a clock and a 2-batter or 3-batter minimum and be done with it. Probably would have already been done but the MLBPA has a say and from their perspective I can see the gripes.

The stuff that has been done to date (auto-intentional walks being the most obvious example) is so minor that it was worthless.
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: Rome on May 23, 2019, 07:43:30 PM
I canít remember the last time I sat down and watched an entire game from start to finish without the Phillies being involved.  Itís boring, dude.  Too many strikeouts and too many pitching changes make it almost unbearable, especially on television.   
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: MDS on May 23, 2019, 07:52:08 PM
lets remember that complaining about the state of baseball is as much of a national pastime as the game itself. its a billion dollar industry with increasing national and local tv deals and multiple players that just signed for hundreds of millions of dollars to worthless places like denver, suburban la, even suburbaner la and south philly.

the game will be fine. this is not a crisis. billionaire trump supporting owners are still going to make tons of money while dirt poor dominicans and uber wealthy whites climb over each other to play.
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: ice grillin you on May 24, 2019, 11:54:11 AM
im in chicago milwaukee for the weeks games

my arms look like those big turkey legs they sell at state fairs and renaissance festivals from being in the sun for 3:55 other than that it didnt seem long to me...a big difference is when a day game goes four hrs its still light out when its over...when a night game goes four hours you might not be getting to bed until midnight

salvaging a split in chicago on paper isnt bad but it felt worse....the difference in the series not being better was cubs big guns baez/rizzo hit homers and harper/hoskins hit singles

hoskins is absolutely horrific right now...since hitting a homer on may 7 he has seven hits none for xtra bases and 15 strikeouts
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: MDS on May 24, 2019, 10:45:46 PM
vince velasquez: relief pitcher
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on May 25, 2019, 01:17:13 AM
Havas needs to stay on road trips with them. Good luck charm
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: Don Ho on May 25, 2019, 04:57:07 AM
^^^ :yay :yay :yay^^^
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: Don Ho on May 25, 2019, 04:58:50 AM
Damn, it's been a long time since I had good things to say about the bullpen.
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: Rome on May 25, 2019, 06:49:11 AM
Nice win last night.  Glad I stayed up and watched it.  Hoskinsí homer was a rocket. 
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: MDS on May 25, 2019, 11:38:31 AM
phillies fans when they win a meaningless may game
(http://www.reactiongifs.com/r/grreat.gif)

philles fans when they lose a meaningless may game
(https://steemitimages.com/0x0/https://steemitimages.com/DQmRYjcs43rZDH899dyAR91nPN1M6qkykmLW1KYA8ogTzyF/e.gif)
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on May 25, 2019, 03:36:23 PM
Accurate

Btw they promoted Rick Vaughn today aka JD Hammer

Nice glasses, fargo.
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: Geowhizzer on May 25, 2019, 04:45:20 PM
It would be nice if the Phils could get a hit with the bases loaded.
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: MDS on May 25, 2019, 05:31:00 PM
even geo the morman does it, sheesh

the phillies have scored 9 runs this series and they are all in different innings
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: Geowhizzer on May 25, 2019, 09:49:05 PM
https://twitter.com/matt_breen/status/1132430033644138496

Um, Jake, keep this going a bit before you start smelling yourselves...
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: Don Ho on May 25, 2019, 11:38:18 PM
Exactly, calm down Jake.  Come see us after the series in Chavez Ravine next week.

Today was fun.  That bottom of the 8th strike zone was just horrendous and the angry beard got lucky as heck BUT nice top 9th of saying shove it Braun and Counsell.
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: ice grillin you on May 26, 2019, 12:17:51 AM
Havas needs to stay on road trips with them. Good luck charm

lesssgo!

cept when they lose tomorrow (btw itís dollar dog day at brewers park) they will be 4-3 this set....nothing to be ashamed of but Iím better than that or maybe Iím not
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: Geowhizzer on May 26, 2019, 09:25:41 AM
Havas needs to stay on road trips with them. Good luck charm

lesssgo!

cept when they lose tomorrow (btw itís dollar dog day at brewers park) they will be 4-3 this set....nothing to be ashamed of but Iím better than that or maybe Iím not

Over/Under for Havas dollar dogs is five.  What's the play?
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: Rome on May 26, 2019, 10:39:57 AM
At a time?

Over.

(https://66.media.tumblr.com/1baeeed14435267e8751e015d2a549bb/tumblr_oab6z0SzzO1sy3tjvo1_500.gif)
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: Geowhizzer on May 26, 2019, 03:13:15 PM
Hope Igy's enjoying the dollar dogs, because it looks like the game will suck.
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on May 26, 2019, 05:21:36 PM
At a time?

Over.

(https://66.media.tumblr.com/1baeeed14435267e8751e015d2a549bb/tumblr_oab6z0SzzO1sy3tjvo1_500.gif)

Lolol
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: ice grillin you on May 26, 2019, 07:39:10 PM
People got jokes

get some pitchers
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: Geowhizzer on May 26, 2019, 07:50:22 PM
Apparently Elfin had tummy troubles.  Hanging around Embiid and Simmons?
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: MDS on May 26, 2019, 08:49:36 PM
if youre gonna lose, lose like this so i can stop paying attention and then head out and enjoy a nice day

hammer's stuff looked like it can play. maybe there's something here.
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: ice grillin you on May 27, 2019, 01:24:30 PM
hammer's stuff looked like it can play. maybe there's something here.

your phillie homerism could be the homerist homerism ever
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: Geowhizzer on May 27, 2019, 03:07:00 PM
hammer's stuff looked like it can play. maybe there's something here.

your phillie homerism could be the homerist homerism ever
(https://media.giphy.com/media/kgKrO1A3JbWTK/giphy.gif)
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: Rome on May 27, 2019, 03:17:14 PM
Stop!  Homer Time!!
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: MDS on May 27, 2019, 09:15:25 PM
hammer's stuff looked like it can play. maybe there's something here.

your phillie homerism could be the homerist homerism ever

let me know when the nats get zimmermann back, im sure thats whatll get them going
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on May 27, 2019, 09:28:23 PM
Sucked that they didnít have a game today
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on May 28, 2019, 11:50:32 AM
Odubel arrested for domestic violence against his 20yr old girlfriend at Golden Nugget in AC
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: Rome on May 28, 2019, 12:33:05 PM
Bye Dumbell. 
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: MDS on May 28, 2019, 01:13:58 PM
the universal reaction from people is to cut his ass which would make me pleased if it wasnt based in performance/racism

if realmuto beat his wife there would a demand for "facts" and war stories of northeast philly's finest talking about how their girl lied to the police about them

with that said go away odubel
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: AO1 on May 28, 2019, 01:21:56 PM
Odubel arrested for domestic violence against his 20yr old girlfriend at Golden Nugget in AC

At least heís starting to hit again
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: AO1 on May 28, 2019, 01:26:33 PM
the universal reaction from people is to cut his ass which would make me pleased if it wasnt based in performance/racism

if realmuto beat his wife there would a demand for "facts" and war stories of northeast philly's finest talking about how their girl lied to the police about them

with that said go away odubel

Realmuto is one of the best catchers in the game
Odubel Herrera is a fringe starter and they already have his replacement in Kingery

Iím not saying cut Herrera but your comparison sucks
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: Geowhizzer on May 28, 2019, 01:32:21 PM
the universal reaction from people is to cut his ass which would make me pleased if it wasnt based in performance/racism

if realmuto beat his wife there would a demand for "facts" and war stories of northeast philly's finest talking about how their girl lied to the police about them

with that said go away odubel

Realmuto is one of the best catchers in the game
Odubel Herrera is a fringe starter and they already have his replacement in Kingery

Iím not saying cut Herrera but your comparison sucks

To be fair, he did say performance as part of his comparison.
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: Rome on May 28, 2019, 05:36:12 PM
Iím sure thereís Phils fans who dislike Herrera because of his skin pigment.   Who gives a shtein about those idiots?

Herrera sucks regardless of his skin color. 

If itís proven heís a gutless coward who beats women, he should be cut immediately.  Zero tolerance for that shtein. 

But everyone is innocent till proven guilty.  Let due process play itself out. 
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: Geowhizzer on May 28, 2019, 05:42:23 PM
Officially on administrative leave. (https://www.nytimes.com/2019/05/28/sports/odubel-herrera-arrest-phillies.html)
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: MDS on May 28, 2019, 07:08:35 PM
If itís proven heís a gutless coward who beats women, he should be cut immediately.  Zero tolerance for that shtein. 

would you be saying this if he was hitting .320 instead of .220? this is my point

the combo of his color + play is why theres a universal reaction of GTFO. i know that sentiment wouldnt be there if this was realmuto.
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: Rome on May 28, 2019, 08:19:32 PM
You know me well enough not to even ask that question.   I have no patience for bullies, especially the sort that abuse women.  Iíd cut anyone guilty of smacking a woman around.  Period. 
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on May 28, 2019, 08:24:53 PM
Can someone bully that bum Pivetta into not giving up bombs?
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: MDS on May 28, 2019, 08:49:21 PM
You know me well enough not to even ask that question.   I have no patience for bullies, especially the sort that abuse women.  I’d cut anyone guilty of smacking a woman around.  Period.

you know i love you but florida state, broseph. florida state.

another thing i wonder is does the retroactive punishment now hit myers? dude whaled on his woman in public and hes a go-to quote for beat reporters and always welcome back to cbp.

Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: ice grillin you on May 28, 2019, 10:22:29 PM

But everyone is innocent till proven guilty.  Let due process play itself out. 

Yes...let the process play out to see if the girl put the bruises and fingerprints on her own neck and arms

Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: ice grillin you on May 28, 2019, 10:25:05 PM
Hoo boy was hector nasty tonight
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: AO1 on May 28, 2019, 10:25:11 PM
Neris split was filthy
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: MDS on May 28, 2019, 10:28:13 PM
they have a pretty good regular season bullpen. need 1 shutdown arm for the fall (kimbrel?). but damn neris if he can do this consistently
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: MDS on May 28, 2019, 10:31:49 PM

But everyone is innocent till proven guilty.  Let due process play itself out. 

Yes...let the process play out to see if the girl put the bruises and fingerprints on her own neck and arms

she fell, shes clumsy
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: Geowhizzer on May 28, 2019, 10:33:41 PM
Was Kimbrel shutdown last season?  I thought (maybe faulty memory) that he got shaky at the end of last season.
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: ice grillin you on May 28, 2019, 10:36:57 PM
they have a pretty good regular season bullpen. need 1 shutdown arm for the fall (kimbrel?). but damn neris if he can do this consistently

Heís already proven he canít

I donít think even the biggest HN fan is confident he can have an inning like that in October.
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: MDS on May 28, 2019, 10:42:19 PM
it would hurt my fantasy team but will smith is having a great season and is a FA after this year. unless the nats want to give away doolittle with 1 year left im not sure anybody better is going to be available than neris.
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: Don Ho on May 29, 2019, 12:59:01 AM
Hoo boy was hector nasty tonight

Kolton Wong probably still in the lobby bar shaking his head thinking "WTF was that?"  Three pitches and he looked silly as did Carpenter.
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: Rome on May 29, 2019, 05:50:42 AM

But everyone is innocent till proven guilty.  Let due process play itself out. 

Yes...let the process play out to see if the girl put the bruises and fingerprints on her own neck and arms

So now youíre against due process and the rule of law?

The Phillies have done exactly the right thing here and they should be lauded for it. 
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: AO1 on May 29, 2019, 06:17:35 AM

But everyone is innocent till proven guilty.  Let due process play itself out. 

Yes...let the process play out to see if the girl put the bruises and fingerprints on her own neck and arms

So now youíre against due process and the rule of law?

The Phillies have done exactly the right thing here and they should be lauded for it.

Remember when Reuben Foster was accused of domestic violence and he was guilty by court of public opinion and called a piece of shtein? Thatís what they want. Women hit men too (they usually are the ones to initiate contact)...so I wouldnít rule out she started wailing on him first and he put an end to it. Ray Rice...Kareem Hunt...the women were swinging on them too. You want equal rights expect equal lefts.
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: ice grillin you on May 29, 2019, 06:54:25 AM

But everyone is innocent till proven guilty.  Let due process play itself out. 

Yes...let the process play out to see if the girl put the bruises and fingerprints on her own neck and arms

So now youíre against due process and the rule of law?

The Phillies have done exactly the right thing here and they should be lauded for it.

a baseball team isnt the rule of law...its a sports franchise
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: AO1 on May 29, 2019, 07:32:17 AM
The Phillies reported the incident and he was put on administrative leave. What more do you want? Without a video itís an incident that needs to be investigated.
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: ice grillin you on May 29, 2019, 09:33:08 AM
phillies didnt report anything....the arrest record was public knowledge

and he should have been released yesterday...the charging documents contain more than enough to release him....i dont think you guys understand the difference between an actual court of law and simply being released by a team

Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on May 29, 2019, 10:32:51 AM
I think he has to be on the suspended list first per the CBA pending an investigation, correct?
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: ice grillin you on May 29, 2019, 11:02:59 AM
i know the discipline for the act is determined my mlb but cant any team release a player for any reason any time they want?

then of course a team who claims him has to deal with any potential suspension

what you are saying may be true but it would make zero sense with fully guaranteed contracts

like he could be completely cleared of all charges and the phillies could still release him for any reason...so why couldnt they release him with an active investigation going?
Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: AO1 on May 29, 2019, 11:58:39 AM
phillies didnt report anything....the arrest record was public knowledge

and he should have been released yesterday...the charging documents contain more than enough to release him....i dont think you guys understand the difference between an actual court of law and simply being released by a team

mlb didnít catch wind of the incident, Klentak was in a meeting when his secretary told him there was an urgent matter. He immediately reported the incident to the mlb. He was only charged with simple assault.

https://www.nbcsports.com/philadelphia/phillies/answering-some-questions-stemming-odubel-herrera-domestic-abuse-arrest

THIS is why knew jerk reactions in these incidents are dangerous
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000001007305/article/reuben-foster-domestic-violence-charge-dropped

Quote
Elissa Ennis, the alleged victim, told police that during a verbal altercation with Foster, he slapped her phone out of her hand, pushed her in the chest area and slapped her with an open hand on the right side of her face. Officers observed a one-inch scratch on her left collarbone, according to police.

A judge ruled there was no probable cause on the first two charges after Ennis recanted the allegations and the judge found no other evidence to support the charges.

Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: ice grillin you on May 29, 2019, 12:19:31 PM
pretty sure you dont know what dangerous means...again you are confusing the justice system with a team releasing a player.....if the phillies released him today he could go to any team he wants if they are willing to have him...we arent talking about a court case that is railroading an innocent man into prison for 25 years

there literally is nothing "dangerous" about releasing odubel herrera if he never choked out his girl...the fact that he almost certainly did means he should be gone already

unless like j said they arent allowed to do it because of some language in the domestic violence deal the league and union made

Title: Re: Phillies
Post by: Rome on May 29,