Darren Sharper arrested on suspicion of rape.
Aw shtein...Darrwen Shawpur....da most hardest hitting saftey in da league
Davone Bess meanwhile is going through a Titus Young style breakdown.
10 months ago - Involuntarily committed to a hospital by his family. Took six cops to restrain him while he yelled "Hide the guns!" "Where is my weed?" and "I want to get in the end zone; throw me the football!"
Dec 21 - Placed on the non-football/reserve list for unspecified reasons
Jan 16 - tweeted pictures of blunts
Yesterday - weird altercation with police while "under the influence of an unknown narcotic"
QuoteBut Bess' troubles escalated Friday when an officer working a TSA detail approached him in the airport concourse after several people pointed out his bizarre behavior. He was "acting irrationally, dancing, singing with his pants repeatedly falling down," according to a report written by Thomas O'Brien.
The officer tried speaking to Bess, who grabbed a cup of coffee not belonging to him and squeezed it, causing the drink to land on the officer. Bess took a "fighting stance" at which time the officer struck him in the leg with a baton, according to the report. Bess removed his shirt and remained in the stance, ignoring the officer's command to drop to the ground.
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on January 18, 2014, 01:21:09 PM
Darren Sharper arrested on suspicion of rape.
Mr. Suave has been on NFL network lately. I guess being on NFL network doesn't preclude one from being arrested on the suspicion of rape.
Davone Bess, long list of June Jones' finest.
Colt Brennen - drunk, rape charge at CU Boulder before transferring to Hawaii
Pisa Tinasamoa - charged with beating the shtein out of someone in Oceanside CA during a brawl
Bess had some shtein going on to before coming to Hawaii. That was one reason for Jones success here. He took a chance on a lot of kids no one would touch.
http://deadspin.com/davone-bess-tweets-picture-of-himself-completely-naked-1504093817 (http://deadspin.com/davone-bess-tweets-picture-of-himself-completely-naked-1504093817)
That's Bess? Dude looks old. Cute ass though.
That picture says "I might be spiraling down into a career-destroying mental breakdown, but I did stay at a Holiday Inn Express last night."
:-D :-D
Josh Brent gets 180 days in jail, ten years suspended, and a small fine.
GET
i cant find the 'ex eagles not in the nfl arrested nfl people' thread
Quote"The lawyer for Hugh Douglas says the former NFL defensive end will plead no contest to a misdemeanor to resolve a Connecticut case that accused him of assaulting his girlfriend at a Hartford hotel. The attorney, Corey Brinson, told The Associated Press on Friday that he expects Douglas to plead to breach of peace and avoid a jail sentence Monday in Hartford." Douglas played much of his career with the Eagles.
More on Hugh (http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nfl/2014/02/07/hugh-douglas-nfl-assault-espn-bryn-mawr/5287403/)
QuoteHartford police said the alleged assault occurred at the Hartford Marriott Downtown hotel in the early morning hours of Sept. 22. The woman, who was not identified, first told police that nothing happened, but then claimed Douglas grabbed her by her neck in a hallway and slammed her against the walls several times while carrying her back to their room during an argument, according to a police report.
Douglas told an officer that the woman's neck injury was from "rough sex," the report says.
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on January 18, 2014, 01:21:09 PM
Darren Sharper arrested on suspicion of rape.
Looks like they've more than got the goods on him...enjoy prison motherfarger.
http://www.cnn.com/2014/02/14/justice/california-nfl-darren-sharper-case/index.html?hpt=hp_t2
What I don't understand is that the dude is not a bad looking dude, millionaire (I think)...and he has to do all of this shtein to get Hoyda?
Maybe he's just a serial rapist. If he's guilty...then that has to be it. Otherwise, WTF?
So he's up to seven accusations and counting of drug rape in 4 states, and most of the nfl talk I've heard has been of Richie Incognito bullying Johnathan Martin.
im not really up on the medicines that are most popular to use for date rape but dook was toting around morphine....that cant be date rape SOP...or is it?
It can get you farged up pretty quick, and as my grandmother found out it can be lethal if you've already got a weak heart.
Quote from: Eagaholic on February 15, 2014, 03:07:21 PM
So he's up to seven accusations and counting of drug rape in 4 states, and most of the nfl talk I've heard has been of Richie Incognito bullying Johnathan Martin.
In the NFL, rapists are a dime a dozen. You could probably fill a roster with them, but guys who'll tell a teammate they want to take a shtein in their mouth are pretty rare.
yeah it basically makes you a zombie....its what hospice uses for comnfort in your last days....im sure it would be ultra effective....ive just never heard of someone rollin the streets with it
Yeah, dangerous stuff, especially with alcohol. He used it with Ambien according to the article. Morphine has a feel good let your guard down effect and Ambien has a knock out and amnesia effect so they can work together as a 1+1=3.
Jesus. What's the next news on this, that he was also carrying around muscle relaxers, a large vat of lube, six feet of rope, and a clown mask?
Why a clown mask?
does he want the girls telling the police that darren sharper did this to me....or a guy with a clown mask did this to me
Hmmm, I'll have to remember that for next time
ha
Ray Rice arrested at Revel in AC for an altercation with a woman. Looks like it was his fiancé as she was arrested too.
Roddy White (http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/10474611/roddy-white-atlanta-falcons-arrested-failing-appear-court)... for failure to appear in court to answer charges of having his windows tinted too dark.
http://deadspin.com/heres-ray-rice-dragging-his-unconscious-fiancee-out-of-1525926834?utm_campaign=socialflow_deadspin_twitter&utm_source=deadspin_twitter&utm_medium=socialflow
She had it coming.
- SD
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on February 19, 2014, 11:21:00 AM
http://deadspin.com/heres-ray-rice-dragging-his-unconscious-fiancee-out-of-1525926834?utm_campaign=socialflow_deadspin_twitter&utm_source=deadspin_twitter&utm_medium=socialflow
Damn. Poor girl was out cold. Rice looks shtein faced too. This won't turn out well. Like the Raves needed another reason for fans to hate them after Lewis retired. Shouldn't there be a video of what happened inside the elevator?? Also, I wonder what the poor girls face looks like.
does anyone hate the ravens?....they are about as vanilla a franchise as it gets
If the girl was white this would be a big deal. As is, no one cares.
Quote from: ice grillin you on February 20, 2014, 06:46:55 AM
does anyone hate the ravens?....they are about as vanilla a franchise as it gets
Cleveland's still a little salty about them.
Denver still hates Baltimore for the year before last. And Pittsburgh bears no love for Baltimore no matter what.
I hate Baltimore because of a stupid farging tv show.
Wait, that's not right. I hate you idiots because of it.
Quote from: Diomedes on February 20, 2014, 05:06:18 PM
Denver still hates Baltimore for the year before last. And Pittsburgh bears no love for Baltimore no matter what.
denever doesnt know baltimore exists....pittsburgh youre right on...but even that is like a dallas eagle situation where the "rivalry" is mostly one way...raven fans being obsessed with the steelers cause half of baltimore is steeler fans
the Ravens f'n robbed Denver to get to the Super Bowl but Denver has forgotten them, sure thing
The Ravens are legitimately the biggest rival in Pittsburgh. It would be the Browns if they had fielded a competitive team within the last 20 years, but they haven't.
Yeah that's definitely another IGY making shtein up post....every Steeler fan I know despises the Ravens
Quote from: QB Eagles on February 20, 2014, 09:34:04 PM
The Ravens are legitimately the biggest rival in Pittsburgh. It would be the Browns if they had fielded a competitive team within the last 20 years, but they haven't.
thats only because they are both good...kind of like what san fran and seattle are turning into...but really you think sf cares about the seahawks...if the ravens sucked pittsburgh wouldnt give a shtein about the ravens...which is understandable since the ravens have been in the league for about five minutes
Quote from: Diomedes on February 20, 2014, 09:18:01 PM
the Ravens f'n robbed Denver to get to the Super Bowl but Denver has forgotten them, sure thing
have they forgotten that game...of course not...but it could have been the dolphins or the jaguars and it would be the same feeling right now...its not like denver has some sort of unhealthy hate for the ravens...they hate that loss
cmon man, even in ravens off years, of which they're aren't many, 7 out of 10 steelers fans will say they hate the ravens more than anyone. and the other 3 of 10 have a lot of friends in ohio so pick one of the other teams.
Fred Davis popped for DUI
Stellar career path he's taken
Here's a bit more on Ol' Fred
QuoteFred Davis is having a bad week.
Just a day after being suspended indefinitely by the league for violating the league's substance-abuse policy, Davis has now run into trouble off the field as well. According to Mike Jones of the Washington Post, Davis was arrested Thursday and charged with a DUI.
Davis was set to become a free agent next month. Davis said in a statement Wednesday that he was expecting to be able to apply for reinstatement to the league in the fall.
Wonder what he's up to tomorrow?
Quote from: ice grillin you on February 20, 2014, 06:46:55 AM
does anyone hate the ravens?....they are about as vanilla a franchise as it gets
Yeah, the family of the guy Ray Lewis helped murder in Atlanta.
Remember this from Fred Davis? The man is so farging dumb...
http://www.washingtonian.com/blogs/capitalcomment/local-news/fred-davis-attorney-at-law-the-courtroom-transcripts.php
QuoteChaka cross-examination of Davis, April 10, 2012
Chaka: Well, let's look at your document. It says December the 3rd, 2012. What's today's date, Mr. Davis?
Davis: I don't know. I don't know.
Chaka: What's the date of today?
Davis: I don't know what today is. All I know is I had court today.
Chaka: You don't know what today's date is? His document is not even valid.
Davis: What are you talking about? . . .
Chaka: Well, according to your statement, to bullet No. 5, it says that this event happened December 3rd, 2012.
Davis: Okay, and, what about it?
Chaka: Has December 3rd, 2012 even happened yet?
Davis: What?
Chaka: What? That's the same thing I'm saying, Mr. Davis.
Davis: It was a misprint. Okay, December 3rd, 2011, okay, great.
ha. dude got busted at 3:45 PM in tysons corner right in front of a place i worked at like 10 years ago. that area is like the traffic capital of the world, pretty hard to get a DUI when going 10 mph. this guy is impressive.
Jim Irsay. (He's the owner of the Colts, chuggie.)
http://wishtv.com/2014/03/17/jim-irsay-arrested-by-carmel-police/
more info on that
QuoteOfficers found multiple prescription drugs in pill bottles. The pills didn't match the labels on the bottles.
Police say Irsay then failed sobriety tests and was placed under arrest. Irsay faces four felony charges and one misdemeanor charge if convicted in the case.
Of course the pills didn't match the labels. How else is he supposed to keep his housekeeper from stealing them?
He uses the patented Lil' T.O. Learns to Share pill labeling system.
QuoteWitnesses: Aldon Smith taken into custody at LAX
Police at Los Angeles International Airport say they took a 25-year-old San Jose man into custody today after he became belligerent after going through security and saying something about having a bomb. Witnesses, some of whom have video of the incident, said the suspect is 49ers linebacker Aldon Smith. Smith is 24 and turns 25 in September.
LAX authorities said the suspect is in the process of being booked with the Los Angeles Police Department and that his identity won't be released until that is complete. A statement from the airport police reads:
"At approximately 1400 hrs, a 25-year-old male resident of San Jose, California, was going through Terminal 1 screening and was randomly selected for a secondary screening. The suspect then became belligerent and uncooperative with the process and with the TSA agent, making a comment indicating that he was in possession of a bomb before proceeding towards the gate area. Los Angeles Airport Police made contact with him at the gate and he was positively identified as the person in question. Once again the male subject became uncooperative and he was detained and taken into custody by Airport Police and is currently being transported to LAPD for booking."
According to a witness, the incident began at the Southwest Airlines ticket counter at which point Smith was told he would not be allowed on the plane. After going through security, the witness said Smith was in line at McDonald's when he was approached by security personnel. He ran toward the gate, became belligerent, said something about a bomb and was taken into custody by five officers.
Smith has been arrested twice since 2012 for DUI and also is facing weapons charges relating to a sprawling house party that got out of control in 2012. Smith was stabbed at that party. In addition, he was involved in a rollover car crash near his home in San Jose in 2012.
Following his most recent DUI arrest in September, in which Smith was found passed out in a truck that came to a stop in a residential front yard, Smith checked himself into a rehabilitation program and missed six weeks of the season.
Asked last month how Smith was doiing, 49ers coach Jim Harbaugh said the progress was good and that he was encouraged by how Smith handles himself after returning from rehabilitation. "Thought he did a good job in all of those regards, as a player, as a teammate, decisions he was making," Harbaugh said. "Very encouraged."
Read more here: http://blogs.sacbee.com/49ers/archives/2014/04/witnesses-aldon-smith-arrested-at-lax.html#storylink=cpy
I love how much of a fargup that guy is. He picked up the flag when Rolando McClain left the league.
Donnie got arrested in Phoenix.
http://m.tmz.com/#Article/2014/04/17/donovan-mcnabb-mug-shot-arizona
QuoteWe're told McNabb hashed out a plea deal with prosecutors and was sentenced to 1 day in an Arizona jail.
Kevin Kolb wishes his agent was that good.
the eagles just cut him from the eagles ring of honor.
Quote from: Rome on April 17, 2014, 04:06:53 PM
Donnie got arrested in Phoenix.
http://m.tmz.com/#Article/2014/04/17/donovan-mcnabb-mug-shot-arizona
Igy must have rubbed himself raw.
Haha FF posted this on FB and tagged me.
First thing I saw was Maricopa County
He is missing his trademark Big Smile.
where the farg was this when he was playing
who knew he wasnt such a disgusting spineless Hoyda after all.
shocking that the bedwetter cant handle his alcohol and choked when it came to the sobriety tests
how did it take four months for this to come out?
"My car showed its youth today"
lol
All that Chunky Soup is catching up with him. He's gonna be three-fitty before too long.
it was probably someone elses fault
a) the defense
b) andy
c) pinkston and thrash
d) the media
pinky served him to much....andy didn't hide his keys...the defense let him leave the party and the media told him it was impossible to get pulled over on indian land
Keyshawn Johnson arrested and charged with domestic violence.
C'MON, MAN!
He finally tuned Bieber up?
reports coming out that aaron hernandez is going to be indicted fo that double murder in boston that hes been suspected of for a while....which would have meant he played in 10 nfl games after it
wild yo
get me that cat over goodie2shoes marcus smith any day
agreed....well besides the in jail part
the jail part comes with the rumble tumble stillupfront's moms you want
you = avon
chip = string
Quote from: MDS on May 15, 2014, 07:30:36 PM
the jail part comes with the rumble tumble stillupfront's moms you want
lol at the "jail part"....yeah so many tough nfl players go to jail....like thousands of them
ill take superbowl winners you can have a team full of tweeting hipsters
you got the shotgun, i got the briefcase
all in the game though, right?
Hernandez wouldn't stand a chance against Marlo's crew. Partlow and Snoop would have his fake ass in the vacants
hernandez wouldnt let them take him there....hes be dropped in an alley or do the dropping himself.
He's a fake gangsta.
If he didn't get got in the vacants then Bunk would be chalking him off on a corner.
Bodie vs Hernandez....Bodie wins
You nerds having fun writing your fan fiction?
Yes. Yes we are.
hes actually a good subject for the 6th season of the wire that never happened....the influx of hispanics in bodymore.
hernandez was actually quite soft....grew up on the mean streets of bristol....he was basically a bully who had daddy issues
yup, the big softie with 3 murder chargers on him
andrew cunanan
ted bundy
george tiller
pack signed sergei lyerla malatov
Zero jail time for that dumbfarg Ray Rice
:yay
lololol
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on May 20, 2014, 08:47:56 PM
Zero jail time for that dumbfarg Ray Rice
not like he's getting off easy. the poor guy has to go through a laboring intervention program that will last a year.
Not all taterskin players are idiots
QuoteRyan Clark: Handling of Irsay shows hypocrisy of the NFL
At the NFL meetings in Atlanta this week, NFL Commissioner Roger Goodell said that he was holding off on any discipline for Colts owner Jim Irsay "until we have more information and more facts."
Irsay was arrested on charges of vehicle while intoxicated and felony possession of a controlled substance earlier this year and spent some time in rehab before returning to work this week to play a role in Indianapolis' unsuccessful bid for Super Bowl LII. In his frequent offseason role as an ESPN talking head, taterskins safety Ryan Clark criticized Goodell and the league for not acting to discipline Irsay already.
Clark pointed to Goodell's decision to suspend Clark's former Steelers teammate Ben Roethlisberger in 2010 when Roethlisberger was neither charged with a crime nor arrested after being accused of sexual assault. Clark said allowing Irsay to be part of this week's meetings "shows the hypocrisy of the NFL and also Roger Goodell in the way that he deals with players and the way he deals for the people he works for."
"So when has having enough information been what Roger Goodell waits for to make these decisions?" Clark said on "First Take." "When does a charge necessarily warrant the penalty? We've seen in so many cases, Roger Goodell be judge and jury when it comes to players," Clark said. "So here we have Jim Irsay, a guy, an owner, who has history of substance abuse, who's found in a car with over $29K and prescription drugs that weren't in his name, pulled over for driving under the influence, and now we're saying we need more information? What more information do we need than these aren't your prescription pills? You're obviously under the influence. You have $29k. There would be no questions asked if this was a player."
The longer the league takes to deal with the Irsay situation, the more people are likely to come around to Clark's view that there's a different standard for owners even though the league has said Irsay is eligible for discipline.
Incoming four game suspension.
TJ Ward (http://denver.cbslocal.com/2014/05/22/arrest-warrant-out-for-broncos-star/)
Ravens draft pick Lorenzo Taliaferro (http://www.vagazette.com/news/va-vg-ravens-draft-pick-exbruton-star-lorenzo-taliaferro-arrested-in-williamsburg-20140527,0,7093560.story)
You don't farg around when you're trapped in a car with a wasp.
(http://i106.photobucket.com/albums/m267/jeepwrang1994/1_zpsad1e7958.jpg)
http://deadspin.com/kevin-kolb-arrested-charged-with-boating-while-drunk-1598283321?utm_campaign=socialflow_deadspin_twitter&utm_source=deadspin_twitter&utm_medium=socialflow
I didn't know you could arrest a rich white quarterback from Texas in Texas. It must have been a shteinshow.
that happened about 40 minutes from where i live....on the gulf
surprised he didnt get a concussion
Josh Gordon arrested for DWI
This guy is a colossal idiot. Top five dumbfarg of all time in sports
Sounds like a project for Andy Reid.
(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-mR6mYUR5ucI/U7whiGvlxuI/AAAAAAADYio/k_imBP2_eV4/s1600/708+jman.jpg)
Manziel rolling up a $20 bill in a bathroom.
Hmmmmmm...
and the fun continues for cleveland sports fans.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=26-4dkzHfMM&feature=youtu.be
Steelers running backs Le'Veon Bell and LeGarrette Blount busted for pot.
Would be great if Bell is part of a drug ring.
I guess the Steelers will experience the joy of having their starting running back and his backup serving suspensions at the same time. Can't say that I can recall that happening before.
So, will these two be suspended for more, or fewer, games than Ray Rice? And, more to the point, will any of those game be against Baltimore?
I think 2 games is the standard suspension for 1st time offenders of the drug weed policy.
A push then.
Quote from: Diomedes on August 20, 2014, 11:10:49 PM
So, will these two be suspended for more, or fewer, games than Ray Rice? And, more to the point, will any of those game be against Baltimore?
Very possible. Week 2 is against Baltimore. The league would have to move fast to make any suspensions effective for Week 1, and given the circumstances I could see them slowing this decision down to avoid the Ravens game.
Dwayne Bowe recently got one game for marijuana possession in his car. Bell was hotboxing a Camaro and was hit with a DUI as well, so he could be looking at more time.
i read Blount wasn't arrested and was allowed to leave the scene
QuoteBell initially told the officer there was no marijuana in the car, but when asked if they had smoked any, he replied: "It was about a minute ago," before clarifying that it could have been within the previous two hours.
awesome.
Video of Mike Evans fighting with bouncers
http://deadspin.com/heres-video-allegedly-of-mike-evans-fighting-with-night-1625694363?utm_campaign=socialflow_deadspin_facebook&utm_source=deadspin_facebook&utm_medium=socialflow
There's a moon shot, too.
Matt Prater suspended first 4 games of the season for violating the NFLs substance abuse policy. Probably more fantasy news than regular.
jg out for the year
Aldon Smith, 9 game suspension
Quote from: SD on August 29, 2014, 04:27:34 PM
Aldon Smith, 9 game suspension
Including the Eagle game. So the Birds get to avoid both Robert Mathis and Aldon Smith.
Quote from: QB Eagles on August 29, 2014, 05:32:51 PM
Quote from: SD on August 29, 2014, 04:27:34 PM
Aldon Smith, 9 game suspension
Including the Eagle game. So the Birds get to avoid both Robert Mathis and Aldon Smith.
you love twitter
I actually despise Twitter and never use it. I fired up the Eagles schedule page and did the two seconds of research myself. Which hack writer am I being accused of copying?
one of the eagle beat writers posted that verbatim...like word for word....it probably found it way to the eagle message board or something
I literally looked at the schedule and formulated the words all by myself like a big boy. Not the most original thought I've ever created, but it's mine dammit.
I should really let Ed handle this type of stuff.
doesnt matter who does it....411 is 411....and it was zach berman who tweeted it literally six minutes before your post...honestly I could care less it just jumped out to me because it was verbatim
QuoteRe: Aldon Smith. Eagles able to avoid Smith, Robert Mathis MT @JoeBanner13 That's a big blow, and good for the 9 teams that don't face him
Wouldn't exactly call it "verbatim".
Son of Chris?
Niners DE Ray McDonald, domestic abuse
That team is a mess right now
Wow...well now lets see the first fight between the NFLPA and Big Rog on his new domestic abuse policy.
And yeah, SF is quite messy.
but its a forgone conclusion either SF or SEA beats the eagles in the wild card round! so who cares.
And she was pregnant...dook may as well just forget about playing this year
Welker took some molly and is suspended the first 4 games of the season
http://deadspin.com/reports-wes-welker-suspended-four-games-for-amphetamin-1629795049?utm_campaign=socialflow_deadspin_facebook&utm_source=deadspin_facebook&utm_medium=socialflow
Glad I waited until round 10 to take him yesterday (non CF live draft). Team name is Heisenberg...fitting.
Suddenly the Kentucky Derby $100 handouts make sense
Tmz released the full video of Rice knocking his wife out
http://m.tmz.com/#Article/2014/09/08/ray-rice-elevator-knockout-fiancee-takes-crushing-punch-video
Damn.
epic fail by goodell.
Might be Roger should fine himself, or quit..Jesus Christ that's awful.
Great work Goodell. On a sidenote, Ray Rice Vs Ronda Rousey, who you guys got?
seriously how can goodell justify his decision on rice at all. that rule change should'vce been made retroactive. the evidence is so brutal there's no way the union would've said a word.
oh and i got rhonda all the way.
So another site i frequent had the video up, it's mostly Skins and ravens fans. Dude had this as his response to the video
Quote from: blinddog;10174012NOT DEFENDING HIM IN THE LEAST BIT - never should hit a woman.
She did slap him on the way into the elevator and then got up in his face again on the elevator - that bossy woman should have been beat down by a girl in the past and this would not have happened in the first place.
Looks like she may have some issues of her own.
Yeah, she totally deserved to get cold cocked at the temple bro, he taught her good. farging neanderthals
She had it coming, amirite Todd?!?
lol she also got arrested after the event...nice work cops
This is the worst possible outcome for good ol' Rog and the Ravens, who also look like shtein here. Oh, and the cops and the DA too.
To only suspend him two games and then come out and say "oh I farged up...lets make it six"
No.
Quote from: Seabiscuit36 on September 08, 2014, 08:23:48 AM
So another site i frequent had the video up, it's mostly Skins and ravens fans. Dude had this as his response to the video
Quote from: blinddog;10174012NOT DEFENDING HIM IN THE LEAST BIT - never should hit a woman.
She did slap him on the way into the elevator and then got up in his face again on the elevator - that bossy woman should have been beat down by a girl in the past and this would not have happened in the first place.
Looks like she may have some issues of her own.
Yeah, she totally deserved to get cold cocked at the temple bro, he taught her good. farging neanderthals
yeah reverse sexism seems to be making a comeback on the internet with the nerd crowd...like why should women get special treatment?
jesus that video is awful.
Nerds on the internet hate women so much that SD would say "Settle down, guys. What the hell's wrong with you?"
Quote from: Rome on September 08, 2014, 08:44:12 AM
She had it coming, amirite Todd?!?
you better believe it
dont even know why she was out....women always act up when we let them out. stay in the kitchen!
Quote from: Seabiscuit36 on September 08, 2014, 08:23:48 AM
So another site i frequent had the video up, it's mostly Skins and ravens fans. Dude had this as his response to the video
Quote from: blinddog;10174012NOT DEFENDING HIM IN THE LEAST BIT - never should hit a woman.
She did slap him on the way into the elevator and then got up in his face again on the elevator - that bossy woman should have been beat down by a girl in the past and this would not have happened in the first place.
Looks like she may have some issues of her own.
Yeah, she totally deserved to get cold cocked at the temple bro, he taught her good. farging neanderthals
what do you expect from the STD cespool of the universe ?
http://thebiglead.com/2014/09/08/nfl-says-it-didnt-have-ray-rice-knockout-video-but-reporters-said-otherwise-this-summer/
Interesting dynamic here - the league is in full spin mode of how they did not see it but yet reports are coming out that they did.
cant wait to see what the league lets peter king say next
http://mmqb.si.com/2014/09/08/ray-rice-nfl-domestic-violence-video-peter-king/
he's gone...the Ravens just terminated his contract
Good.
His career is over. I cannot see anyone picking him up
oakland- tomorrow.
No way - he is too combustible. He'll never play in the NFL again
Eagles should pick him up, he's good depth and he and Shady would make a great 1-2 punch
nah shady just be tossin' hood rats.
Goodell just suspended him indefinitely
Good call Baltimore.
Quote from: BigEd76 on September 08, 2014, 02:46:59 PM
Goodell just suspended him indefinitely
Seriously Goodell? Couldnt do it the first time LOL.
He'll claim he hadn't seen the video, etc.
Really, Roger could lose his job on this too.
That is what the NFL is saying - that this is the first time seeing it.
Florio made a good point - that they may have been rejected by law enforcement but Rice's lawyer could have provided it because it would have to have been provided to him on discovery for defense
And someone else mentioned - the NFL got the farging Spygate tapes but couldn't get this? C'mon.
The NFL is saying they didn't see the video, despite saying they saw the video when he first got suspended. The police say they did see the video before.
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on September 08, 2014, 02:55:42 PM
That is what the NFL is saying - that this is the first time seeing it.
Florio made a good point - that they may have been rejected by law enforcement but Rice's lawyer could have provided it because it would have to have been provided to him on discovery for defense
And someone else mentioned - the NFL got the farging Spygate tapes but couldn't get this? C'mon.
Florio gets paid by NBC, and indirectly by the NFL, he's gone full mouthpiece
not to defend the nfl but i would guess that getting tapes from the patriots would be much easier than tapes from the police.
i just can't imagine them dropping a two game suspension knowing that something like this was out there. doesn't seem possible.
Quote from: phattymatty on September 08, 2014, 03:24:25 PM
i just can't imagine them dropping a two game suspension knowing that something like this was out there. doesn't seem possible.
I'd like to introduce you to a man called Roger Goodell.
it seems equally impossible that they could think a 2 game suspension would coast under the radar, but they certainly thought it would. "I got it wrong" is not a PR win one week after you announce a long considered decision
I think it's def. possible the NFL is about as rotten an organization at they come....money does that
goodell didnt care until he saw it would hurt the bottom line.
no way the union lets this go.
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"Why'd you make me hit you, baby? Look at what you made me do."
Fox & Friends Crew Jokes About Ray Rice Punching His Wife (http://gawker.com/fox-friends-crew-jokes-about-ray-rice-punching-his-wi-1632044161)
Looked to me like she hit him first. Not his fault he's stronger than she is.
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Quote from: SD on September 08, 2014, 03:55:29 PM
Looked to me like she hit him first. Not his fault he's stronger than she is.
Hungry hungry...
What makes a man wake up every morning and say to themselves "I'm going to be a bigger icehole than MDS."
I am enjoying the NFL taking massive heat on this. It is about time they get called out on there bullshtein
Hope you're enjoying the blowback, Rog!
so a video of a women being dragged out of an elevator after being knocked out = her fault
but a video of the same women actually being knocked out = doods fault
thats the only thing that can explain the outrage today right?
There are people in this country who want to hunt and kill people based upon race or sexual orientation...of course a healthy batch of people are going to be OK with a little roughhousing with the Mrs. After all, she was "asking for it."
Basically people made excuses because they don't care about spousal abuse (SD) or are Ravens fans concerned about winning stupid football games (Dio). The video was the smoking gun 99% of people couldn't avoid.
I don't think people get what domestic violence is sometimes. You watch that video and you can't pretend about the situation any longer. Sort of pushes the ugliness to the front.
Knocking your wife unconscious is a two game suspension. Knocking your wife unconscious on film available to the public is an indefinite suspension.
Quote from: Eagles_Legendz on September 08, 2014, 07:00:59 PM
You watch that video and you can't defend Ray Rice any longer.
^^^
think it has more to do with this
i find one thing hilarious that when people were killing the 2 game suspension we were told by the ray rice apologists to trust the nfl because they had all the evidence and knew things we didnt....now the nfl and the ravens are trying to save face by saying they didn't have this video
Quote from: MDS on September 08, 2014, 06:15:31 PMor are Ravens fans concerned about winning stupid football games (Dio).
lol
Rice was preemptively suspended from the CFL. (https://twitter.com/ESPNNFL/status/509112881062105089)
QuoteNFL on ESPNVerified account
@ESPNNFL
JUST IN: The @CFL announces it will honor the NFL's suspension of Ray Rice. He will not be allowed to play in the CFL
Just saw a tweet that tmz is gonna release evidence tomorrow that proves the nfl saw it and ignored it
Lol how long until Roger sends hitmen to off Levin?
Does Goodell keep his job when this is all over? Yeah, probably.
Unfortunately yeah
Harbaugh (whom Munson is happy for btw) is doing his presser right now
Perfect timing. Do it while the game is on
that was originally planned...theyre on a short week
if the tmz thing is true itll be interesting to see what the nfl and/or goodell do. he already should be gone anyway. the guy has made like 100 mil off being the commish. cry me a river and get the farg on gone.
whoever they choose to succeed him will be worse. it's science.
also - i've been a football fan all my life. obviously. i love watching the eagles and probably always will but i am really sick of their unrestrained greed and treating the real fans like annoyances. this latest black eye (sorry) will pass and people will still watch the games, but i'm at the point now where i'm actively cheering against the league, the billionaire racist owners, the spoiled farging douchebag sociopathic athletes, and just about everything else concerned with the sport.
steve biscotti didnt even speak today....what a complete fraud of a human being. they let harbaugh carry the water and he didnt even say anything remotely worthwhile because hes a POS football coach like his dickhead brother and father.
why hasnt 1 owner spoken up about this situation? what could possibly happen to them. oooo a fine? theyre all billionaires. big farging deal. id love to see someone like lurie grow a pair and trash goodell and the ravens.
Quote from: Rome on September 08, 2014, 08:15:15 PM
whoever they choose to succeed him will be worse. it's science.
also - i've been a football fan all my life. obviously. i love watching the eagles and probably always will but i am really sick of their unrestrained greed and treating the real fans like annoyances. this latest black eye (sorry) will pass and people will still watch the games, but i'm at the point now where i'm actively cheering against the league, the billionaire racist owners, the spoiled farging douchebag sociopathic athletes, and just about everything else concerned with the sport.
Welcome to the club.
This book might help you process everything. (No, I have not read it).
http://www.amazon.com/Against-Football-Fans-Reluctant-Manifesto/dp/161219415X/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1410222090&sr=8-1&keywords=against+football
Pay $15 for my book about unrestrained greed in the NFL! :D
Quote from: MDS on September 08, 2014, 08:22:06 PM
steve biscotti didnt even speak today....what a complete fraud of a human being. they let harbaugh carry the water and he didnt even say anything remotely worthwhile because hes a POS football coach like his dickhead brother and father.
why hasnt 1 owner spoken up about this situation? what could possibly happen to them. oooo a fine? theyre all billionaires. big farging deal. id love to see someone like lurie grow a pair and trash goodell and the ravens.
The owners aren't going to speak out. And it was a shame that Bisciotti didn't. But I love the players coming out and ripping the shtein out of him
http://www.nydailynews.com/opinion/instant-replay-goodell-article-1.1932675?utm_content=buffer43783&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter.com&utm_campaign=NYDailyNewsTw
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fh1x1-Z91sU
http://deadspin.com/tmzer-nfl-employees-saw-the-ray-rice-video-before-mond-1632311210
tmz continues to run circles around national water-carrying nfl outlets
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on September 08, 2014, 10:46:01 PMBut I love the players coming out and ripping the shtein out of him.
I don't know man. It's too obvious an opportunity to moralize. The folks who condemn what he did (and how the league handled it) are pretty much the only ones that I can stand. The folks who villify Rice aren't helping anything except their own egos.
Have we talked about hot hot Ray Rice's wife is through all of this? Because, yes.
She also obviously has issues given the behavior caught on camera and her current decision to whine about her woman-beating husband's punishment for beating a woman who happens to be her. But still. Yes.
Dio... Thanks for recommending that book. I started reading excerpts from it and holy shtein it's like music to my ears.
Also - this interview is amazing:
http://www.tinhouse.com/blog/36511/one-fans-reluctant-manifesto-an-interview-with-steve-almond-needs-proof.html
Rice's wife made a statement...you know what, they're perfect for each other
http://6abc.com/300715/
Quote"I woke up this morning, feeling like I had a horrible nightmare, feeling like I'm mourning the death of my closest friend," she wrote. "But to have to accept the fact that it's reality is a nightmare itself. No one know the pain that the media & unwanted options from the public has caused my family. To make us relive a moment in our lives that we regret everyday is a horrible thing.
"To take something away from the man I love that he has worked his ass off for all his life just to gain ratings is horrific. THIS IS OUR LIFE! What don't you all get. If your intentions were to hurt us, embarrass us, make us feel alone, take all happines away, you've succeeded on so many levels. Just know you've succeeded on so many levels. Just know we will continue to grow & show the world what real love is! Ravensnation we love you!"
lol is she serious?
Your husband knocked your ass out cold...and dragged you out of an elevator like a slab of beef...and here she is bitching and complaining?
Oh well golly..sorry lady...go back to getting your ass beat.
i actually feel sorry for her....she did everything the ravens and the nfl told her to do with the promise that ray would only get his two games and then life would go on....now after getting up on the podium a few weeks ago and taking one for the team by apologizing for what SHE did that night her abusive husband is sponserless and probably out of a job forever
as i heard a few times on WIP today (fittingly on the way to the northeast, where domestic abuse is as common as the meth chuckie c sells behind the 5 points DD)...."she started it."
Marcus Hayes wrote about Goodell's awfulness today and you should read the comments after the story.
She hit him first... she had it coming.
Really, a woman slaps you so you have the right to nearly kill her with a vicious left hook to the temple? People are absolutely disgusting. I weep for my child who is going to have to grow up in this horrifyingly awful world we've created for ourselves.
Sirius NFL radio was the same...a lot of "she came at him" nonsense
My wife smacked my arm once... was I supposed to take her out right there? I need protocol for these things, damn it!
The Wifebeater Sign Language Guide says she was asking to be choked out, not punched.
The Wife Beater guide says you hit her with a sack of oranges. Hurts enough to let her know how dumb she is, but doesn't leave those pesky bruises that get you in trouble. amiritesd?
[SD]You want equal rights, bitch? Fine. You hit me, POW! I hit you.[/SD]
dumb ass alert
http://espn.go.com/dallas/nfl/story/_/id/11495757/ryan-leaf-sentenced-5-years-prison-violating-probation
goodell be like
http://bigstory.ap.org/article/ap-newsbreak-source-says-rice-video-sent-nfl
Later Rog, don't let the door hit you on the ass on the way out
Where's GWB to say "you're doing a helluva job, Rog!"
http://deadspin.com/49ers-play-by-play-guy-suspended-two-games-for-janay-ri-1633308679?utm_campaign=socialflow_deadspin_twitter&utm_source=deadspin_twitter&utm_medium=socialflow
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Adam Schefter
35 mins · .
We're it not for Monday's TMZ video, Ray Rice would be reinstated tomorrow morning and rejoining the Ravens.
Ray Rice is a piece of shtein but it's kind of bullshtein that he got his 2 game punishment (fair or not) and the league can arbitrarily change it based on video of an event they already knew happened. it was in the charge that he knocked her unconscious in the elevator. so that fact was never in doubt and that got him 2 games. now the video comes out and he gets another punishment for the same act. the nflpa should be fighting that but they won't because it's not good PR for them, but that's what they are there for.
Quote from: SunMo on September 11, 2014, 09:06:35 AM
Ray Rice is a piece of shtein but it's kind of bullshtein that he got his 2 game punishment (fair or not) and the league can arbitrarily change it based on video of an event they already knew happened. it was in the charge that he knocked her unconscious in the elevator. so that fact was never in doubt and that got him 2 games. now the video comes out and he gets another punishment for the same act. the nflpa should be fighting that but they won't because it's not good PR for them, but that's what they are there for.
That's my problem with it (and that's too strong of a word for the amount I actually care). If people were lining up to do the right thing, that would be awesome. But everyone already knew what happened, and based the established reactions (right or wrong) based on what they knew. Now, it's become a witch hunt PR game. It's certainly not a new turn of events, but the everyone is looking to cover their own asses by going over the top with the reactions to the thing they already knew happened. It's not about "getting it right" or "doing the right thing," It's about, "Oh, shtein, I need to save my ass." So, pretty business as usual.
Quote from: SunMo on September 11, 2014, 09:06:35 AM
Ray Rice is a piece of shtein but it's kind of bullshtein that he got his 2 game punishment (fair or not) and the league can arbitrarily change it based on video of an event they already knew happened. it was in the charge that he knocked her unconscious in the elevator. so that fact was never in doubt and that got him 2 games. now the video comes out and he gets another punishment for the same act. the nflpa should be fighting that but they won't because it's not good PR for them, but that's what they are there for.
this
the nfl changing their minds (regardless of the reason) and suspending ray rice for the year (or longer) should not even remotely make you upset or be one of the things you call bullshtein on in this story......good god
in fact its the only thing they have done right
technically, it's not right at all. they gave him a punishment, and then when video came out of something they already knew they gave him another punishment. how can you get punished for the same act twice. obviously nobody cares because it's a guy who punched his wife and no one is going to defend him but just arbitrarily increasing punishment because you feel like it is bullshtein.
plus the nfl by-passed the newly implemented 6 game suspension for a 1st time offender.
the indefinite suspsion was not handed down to show that the nfl cares, it was purely done for PR reasons.
he didnt get punished twice...he got additonal punishment
but either way why anyone would pick that of all things as a bone of contention in this scandal is mind boggling to me
You guys upset about the NCAA vacating JoePa's wins too?
My point is that arguing procedural technicalities when wife-beating/child-raping is the context is farging insanity.
I cry like a little kid about that.
forget about the nfl claiming to have not seen the video....or claiming to not have been able to obtain the video...or roger goodell interviewing the victim and the perpetrator together in the nfl offices...or the ravens disgusting presser...or the tweet laying blame on janay for the incident...or the original two game suspension
lets instead bitch about the additional time ray got....thats what keeps me up at night
its bullshtein man...i mean who cares hes a wife beater...but its bullshtein. at some point the someone will think of the man in a domestic violence case. one day. we can dream.
Quote from: rjs246 on September 11, 2014, 12:56:54 PM
You guys upset about the NCAA vacating JoePa's wins too?
My point is that arguing procedural technicalities when wife-beating/child-raping is the context is farging insanity.
This doesn't fall into the category of upsetting to me. I don't have a problem with the punishment, per se. I just find it laughable watching everyone scramble to cover their asses under the farcical guise of "doing the right thing," when you know they don't give a shtein about anything other than trying to paint themselves in the best possible light.
i'm not bitching about that dummy, and i've said that a few times. i'm complaining about the random autonomy that the NFL has to just issue punishments willy nilly.
and lol at donte stallworth and ray rice getting the same punishments.
Pick a different example then. This one is not aiding your point, which is valid.
you think homicide and domestic abuse are on the same level?
im sure youll be just fine with the league office when they randomly reduce josh gordons punishment all willy nilly
right fantasy whore?
Quote from: SunMo on September 11, 2014, 01:06:44 PM
i'm not bitching about that dummy...
That's farging uncalled for. He went to a super High School and he has documentation to prove it. Back the farg off.
Quote from: SunMo on September 11, 2014, 01:26:02 PM
you think homicide and domestic abuse are on the same level?
one was out of the crosswalk and the other walked into a left cross
Quote from: SunMo on September 11, 2014, 01:26:02 PM
you think homicide and domestic abuse are on the same level?
That's not what I'm talking about, which you knew already, but nice try on saving yourself.
Don't use the league's decision to extend the suspension of a woman-beater as your example of their ridiculous autonomy when there are literally dozens or hundreds of better, less pro-ladyface-punching examples.
Also, read this.
http://grantland.com/the-triangle/what-does-it-take-to-get-roger-goodell-fired-2/
Quote from: ice grillin you on September 11, 2014, 01:26:21 PM
im sure youll be just fine with the league office when they randomly reduce josh gordons punishment all willy nilly
right fantasy whore?
lol getting desperate to use that as anything close to what we are talking about
fantasy. whore.
Quote from: rjs246 on September 11, 2014, 01:29:36 PM
Quote from: SunMo on September 11, 2014, 01:26:02 PM
you think homicide and domestic abuse are on the same level?
That's not what I'm talking about, which you knew already, but nice try on saving yourself.
Don't use the league's decision to extend the suspension of a woman-beater as your example of their ridiculous autonomy where there are literally dozens or hundreds of better, less pro-ladyface-punching examples.
Also, read this.
http://grantland.com/the-triangle/what-does-it-take-to-get-roger-goodell-fired-2/
don't tell me how to fight my battles. i'll bang my head against the wall if i want to
Media all over ravens fans wearing rice jerseys especially women
A couple who have called him an upstanding citizen and one who said she expects to be hit back if she hits a dude
@BleacherReport: CBS Sports announces that they've pulled an opening act featuring a Rihanna song for tonight's Ravens-Steelers game http://t.co/hlz4oVJwEC
Quote from: ice grillin you on September 11, 2014, 01:28:03 PM
Quote from: SunMo on September 11, 2014, 01:26:02 PM
you think homicide and domestic abuse are on the same level?
one was out of the crosswalk and the other walked into a left cross
This was farging hilarious.
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on September 11, 2014, 07:13:59 PM
@BleacherReport: CBS Sports announces that they've pulled an opening act featuring a Rihanna song for tonight's Ravens-Steelers game http://t.co/hlz4oVJwEC
I can't stand her horseshtein music but are they really pulling an appearance of a woman who was a victim of domestic abuse because, you know, she was a victim and their happy happy fun time might be ruined?
Jesus Christ - who is at the controls of this trainwreck?
I'm pretty sure it has to do with the fact that she has gotten back together with Chris Brown several times after the beatings. Not because she was a victim. Or maybe I've giving these clowns too much credit. Regardless, Rihanna is intolerable but I would stare at her hotness for days.
it would have been just another social media talking point used to either bash or mock goodell and the league...i dont think theres anything more to it than that
http://thebiglead.com/2014/09/11/lots-of-ravens-fans-are-wearing-ray-rice-jerseys/
Lots of people wore Vick jerseys too.
Including me.
farg the PC police.
Quote from: rjs246 on September 11, 2014, 07:35:07 PM
I'm pretty sure it has to do with the fact that she has gotten back together with Chris Brown several times after the beatings. Not because she was a victim. Or maybe I've giving these clowns too much credit. Regardless, Rihanna is intolerable but I would stare at her hotness for days.
Agreed on all counts but it just looks like another example of cowering to fear of what might happen.
Also - she's probably been scheduled to appear for a while, right? Why wait until the afternoon of the game to announce she's been cut from the program?
It's like they're intentionally going out of their way in making every possible wrong turn at this point. If the subject matter wasn't so pathetic and sad, it would be quite humorous.
Quote from: Rome on September 11, 2014, 07:57:15 PM
Lots of people wore Vick jerseys too.
Including me.
farg the PC police.
lol....what?
http://deadspin.com/the-daily-show-to-the-nfl-you-done-farged-up-1633436744?utm_campaign=socialflow_deadspin_facebook&utm_source=deadspin_facebook&utm_medium=socialflow
Awesome.
Also, Sunny is on point. You don't punish someone and then implement a harsher punishment because the video gets out and makes people uncomfortable. The league is punishing a player to make up for their own farg up.
After the public backlash, Rog implements the 6 game/lifetime ban but he still kept Rice @ 2 games because he already punished him. What has changed? Nothing.
Once you hand out a punishment, that's it. It's done. If this indefinite suspension isn't challenged and reversed, it sets a horrible precident.
doing what is right is way more important than some silly non existent precedent that would be set
you are insane if you actually think ray rice should be reinstated tomorrow because goodell farged up with the original punishment
this isnt the court of law...its a business. the nfl suspension actually means nothing. baltimore terminated rice's contract. no team is touching him until the offseason, if then.
why is this even a debate?
its amazing to me that there are people who actually think he should be reinstated tomorrow because he was unfairly disciplined
more important than the pr nightmare...more important than rice coldcocking his wife....more important than anything is the fact that ray rice is technically getting disciplined twice for the same crime.
its amoral! its unconstitutional! its WRONG!
Without a doubt he would not have been suspended indefinitely nor cut from Baltimore had that second part of the video been released.
The NFL righted their wrong because they were caught trying to cover that shtein up.
The Ravens righted their wrong because of the release of the video - they too were trying to cover it up and not release or discipline a good player because of football reasons. They reek of empty statements and actions because they should have suspended him immediately once they found out. But no, they protected him. They promoted him.
The fact remains that the video was shown and it visualized to everyone what he really did and the fact is that he deserves the harsh punishments that have come his way.
I hate to go the "regular Joe" angle here...but in this case it applies (unlike when people try to liken contract disputes to their jobs)...if any normal citizen would have been videotaped beating their girlfriend/wife/whoever unconscious they would have been in jail immediately and no bullshtein pretrial intervention or plea deal would have been struck. The full weight of the law would have been levied upon them. So in that regard Rice still gets off easy because he isn't locked the farg up.
Truth be told, I dont think he should have been suspended at all. But that's because I completely disagree with employers punishing people for personal actions or decisions away from the workplace.
Deck a cheerleader during the game, suspended. Cold cock your girl in AC, suit up.
But I know that's not the world we live in. So whatevs.
Quote from: Sgt PSN on September 11, 2014, 11:14:37 PM
Truth be told, I dont think he should have been suspended at all. But that's because I completely disagree with employers punishing people for personal actions or decisions away from the workplace.
Deck a cheerleader during the game, suspended. Cold cock your girl in AC, suit up.
But I know that's not the world we live in. So whatevs.
I agree with this 100%
so if you are running the ravens, you play ray rice in this game right now
probably should find another line of work then...all nfl contracts come with a conduct clause that the union agreed to...when sponsors and fans are paying your salary you are held to a higher standard....he can go work for ibm and beat all the women he wants
Once again people are arguing procedural bullshtein. Why are some people compelled to defend a person's actions based on technicalities?
Look I'm completely sympathetic to the separation of work and life. I have a set of values that don't necessarily line up with the society at large, so I get the argument. But some shtein is just farging wrong. And if I am the face of my company, a household name for millions of people, and my video taped behavior directly impacts the public opinion of my company, I expect to get fired if I am caught on tape punching my hot fiancée in the farging face.
So argue with that, douches.
Quote from: rjs246 on September 11, 2014, 11:54:09 PM
Once again people are arguing procedural bullshtein. Why are some people compelled to defend a person's actions based on technicalities?
It's not a defence of Ray Rice's actions in the least, but rather a condemnation of the way the league handled the entire thing. The league saw the video and decided on 2 games. The only reason the punishment changed is because the video went public, but its not like she was any less unconscious before the video got out.
QuoteLook I'm completely sympathetic to the separation of work and life. I have a set of values that don't necessarily line up with the society at large, so I get the argument. But some shtein is just farging wrong. And if I am the face of my company, a household name for millions of people, and my video taped behavior directly impacts the public opinion of my company, I expect to get fired if I am caught on tape punching my hot fiancée in the farging face.
So argue with that, douches.
Companies don't have faces. People have faces. Companies are not people, right? This whole "you represent your employer" shtick is some shtein made up buy crusty old white dudes as a means of controlling their employees around the clock.
Oh, you want a paycheck next week? Do your job from 9-5 and then don't do anything to embarrass me between 5-9 that might cut into my profits.
Farg that. I'm honestly surprised that Rusty of all people buys into that bull.
I don't buy into shtein. My point was simply that actions have consequences and that the nature of those consequences exist on a sliding scale. For better or worse when ten million fantasy football nerds know who Ray Rice is, part of the job description is not cold cocking your fiancée. Whether you're on the clock or not.
Actually thats only part of my point. The other part is, farg anyone that cold cocks their fiancée. And consider me completely unmoved by appeals to the separation between work and play when play involves decking your girl til she sleep.
Quote from: Sgt PSN on September 12, 2014, 12:26:12 AMIt's not a defence of Ray Rice's actions in the least, but rather a condemnation of the way the league handled the entire thing. The league saw the video and decided on 2 games. The only reason the punishment changed is because the video went public, but its not like she was any less unconscious before the video got out.
he was terminated before the league even did anything extra. the "suspended indefinitely" was a PR move that is utterly meaningless. he will not serve 1 game of a real suspension if someone decides to sign him next season. nobody was/is touching now him anyway.
why dont you understand this. there is a video of him punching his wife in the face. he was fired. this is justifiable and correct.
this is crazy....and pathetic
http://deadspin.com/bill-polian-disagrees-with-bill-polians-insider-opinion-1633593081?utm_campaign=socialflow_deadspin_twitter&utm_source=deadspin_twitter&utm_medium=socialflow
Rog saw the first interview playing out, called Feva and told him to pull the plug. Then he texted Polian with a pic of his family being held hostage in Syria and said "U no wut 2 do" 20 minutes later we get that nonsense.
That is hilariously awful.
They can't even get their farging cover story straight days, weeks & months after the incident happened.
without getting into any of this nonsense, i will just say that there is no chance in hell that goodell saw this video before we all did. he may not be the best commissioner but he's a lawyer and not a chance he gives a two game suspension knowing that this new video is even a thing.
no chance he didnt see it...it was in the nfl offices...dook weilds with an iron fist on everything...knows all...hes oz...but he doesnt see this video...its laughable
but even if you somehow believe he didnt see it thats no excuse...when players take a banned substance and say they didnt know it was in their protein shake...rogers answer is that ignorance is not an excuse...SUSPENDED....when sean payton said he didnt know his defensive coordinator was handing out bounties goodell said ignorance is not an excuse....SUSPENDED FOR A YEAR...so while he can go on lying about not having seen the video and conduct a phony "independent" investigation he still needs to go away for at least a year for the same ignorance is not an excuse policy he drops on others
in short the guy is a lying incompetant hypocritical pos bully
goodell saw the video. in his arrogance he only gave rice two games. that blew up in his face and he's lied since.
Quote from: ice grillin you on September 12, 2014, 12:16:43 PM
but even if you somehow believe he didnt see it thats no excuse...when players take a banned substance and say they didnt know it was in their protein shake...rogers answer is that ignorance is not an excuse...SUSPENDED.
This x infinity.
Rog is the commish. If his position is that he didn't know that the tape was in his office, then he's admitting incompetence and that he lost organizational control.
2 games for that shot is preposterous.
If he is proven to have seen it he should be fired immediately.
i still cant get over the female ravens fans that were inteviewed by fox 1 - seriously, nuke that city, nothing good can come out there.
Whoa easy fella.
Crabs FTW.
first he said the nfl was unable to acquire the video
and everyone was like what?...you are the nfl with mad ex cia and fbi working your security and you cant get this video?
then goodell says well there are legal blockades to the casino releasing that video
and nj state law enforcement was like there was nothing preventing revel from givign the nfl that tape
then rog says well i dont know what to tell you but no one in the nfl had ever seen that video before monday
and a voice mail from a high ranking exectutive in the nfl was like this video is uh horrible (this is in addition to chris mortenson having talked to someone in the nfl who told him how bad the video was back in may)
in other words mort and the nj state police were able to find people in the nfl offices who had seen the video but goodell couldnt?
so then after all that roger is still like well I havent seen it
i mean what do people need to believe goodell saw it?
a video of him watching the video?
Quote from: Rome on September 12, 2014, 12:45:28 PM
Whoa easy fella.
Crabs FTW.
the crabs will survive, in fact they will probably get bigger, so don't worry yourself sparky.
i'm not saying he didn't farg up majorly...didn't try hard enough to get the video...didn't care...whatever. but i don't think he saw it.
people have been giving him shtein for years for being too harsh...and he's gonna see this and do 2 games? no way.
Quote from: ice grillin you on September 12, 2014, 12:48:02 PM
and a voice mail from a high ranking exectutive in the nfl was like this video is uh horrible (this is in addition to chris mortenson having talked to someone in the nfl who told him how bad the video was back in may)
hmm well i haven't really been paying that much attention but if these things are true then nevermind everything i said.
just blows my mind. i guess that is why so much backlash now.
i will now continue to not pay attention now.
Quote from: phattymatty on September 12, 2014, 12:52:33 PM
i'm not saying he didn't farg up majorly...didn't try hard enough to get the video...didn't care...whatever. but i don't think he saw it.
people have been giving him shtein for years for being too harsh...and he's gonna see this and do 2 games? no way.
He's the commissioner of a testosterone driven league with 0 female employees outside of administrative-type roles. He rules with an iron fist. He was likely mocked endlessly as a kid for having a girly name. It would not surprise me in the least if he hated women and viewed domestic violence as a minor offense.
Quote from: Sgt PSN on September 12, 2014, 01:03:28 PM
It would not surprise me in the least if he hated women and viewed domestic violence as a minor offense.
c'mon now, no need to drag SD into this.
Quote from: phattymatty on September 12, 2014, 12:52:33 PM
people have been giving him shtein for years for being too harsh...and he's gonna see this and do 2 games? no way.
arrogence and a god complex has been his M.O. since day one....hes a power hungry bully who thinks hes untouchable...ultimately this may be his downfall but at the very least it will be his legacy forever
its possible hes completely ignorant on domestic violence...like he saw it and it just didnt mean much to him that rice punched his wife in the face and acted like her lifeless body was an unwanted trash bag
also, 5-0 didnt do shtein to rice (another issue). could he give rice 8 games or something severe even though he wasnt really found guilty of anything severe? how would that fly with the union? what does the cba allow him to do?
Quote from: MDS on September 12, 2014, 01:17:53 PM
its possible hes completely ignorant on domestic violence
ya think?
the stupid motherfarger goodell brough her in with ray and the ravens brass and asked her questions...that goes against every rule when it comes to investigating domestic violence...you never interview the victim with the abuser...shes still supporting him to this day so it may have not mattered but jesus the ignorance in just that one move is astounding
Quote from: MDS on September 12, 2014, 01:17:53 PM
also, 5-0 didnt do shtein to rice (another issue).
def an issue ... how did the DA look at that tape and not file charges.
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Texas law enforcement handing down indictment today on Vikings RB Adrian Peterson on charges of injury to a child. Peterson has been cooperating w law enforcement. He now had to turn himself into custody
wtf
number of players arrested cited or charged with a crime - jan 2000 thru sept 2014
Minnesota Vikings - 44
Cincinnati Bengals - 43
Denver Broncos - 40
Tennessee Titans - 32
Tampa Bay Buccaneers - 31
Kansas City Chiefs - 30
Jacksonville Jaguars - 29
Miami Dolphins - 28
Cleveland Browns - 27
Chicago Bears - 27
San Diego Chargers - 26
Indianapolis Colts - 24
League Average - 22
Baltimore Ravens - 22
Seattle Seahawks - 22
New Orleans Saints - 20
Carolina Panthers - 19
Oakland Raiders - 19
Pittsburgh Steelers - 19
Washington taterskins - 19
Atlanta Falcons - 18
San Francisco 49ers - 18
Buffalo Bills - 17
Detroit Lions - 17
Green Bay Packers - 17
New England Patriots - 15
Dallas Cowboys - 14
New York Giants - 14
New York Jets - 14
Philadelphia Eagles - 13
Arizona Cardinals - 11
Houston Texans - 11 (org. in 2002)
St. Louis Rams - 11
http://blacksportsonline.com/home/2014/09/photos-of-adrian-petersons-4-year-old-son-after-switch-spanking/
This came as a huge shock...wow
He's been deactivated already for Sunday
http://houston.cbslocal.com/2014/09/12/exclusive-details-on-adrian-peterson-indictment-charges/
He's farged.
If you're gonna nuke Charm City, give me a head start to scoot because I got errands stacked weeks into the future.
sports center is setting a record for most times a story has been run in one day.....they literally have had that greg hardy otl piece on a loop since i woke up this morning
yeah I saw kate Fagan getting some run...miss her Sixers coverage
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on September 12, 2014, 07:45:53 PM
http://houston.cbslocal.com/2014/09/12/exclusive-details-on-adrian-peterson-indictment-charges/
He's farged.
That really sucks...I have him on one of my fantasy teams.
Count me IN on arresting parents who use weapons to discipline four year olds. Poor bastich probably got it himself when he was a kid, but it ain't 1980 anymore.
No doubt that's how he got punished when he was a kid...also probably a big reason why he became such a disciplined athletic freak.
I'm all for spanking children, not often, but once in a great while...and certainly not with a weapon.
My grandpa used to make me cut a switch when I was a kid. It was really more of a psychological thing for him, though - I never even had a bruise from what he got me.
What AP did was ridiculous.
Quote from: Munson on September 12, 2014, 09:53:27 PM...also probably a big reason why he became such a disciplined athletic freak.
Watch out, we got a bad shrink in the house.
This is CF...we're all a bunch of bad psychologists here.
I blame it on the repressed sexual feelings you all have for each other.
You don't read what hbionic posts, I guess. Nothing repressed about his sexy feelings.
Which is why he's the only one around here who leads a healthy, fulfilling life.
you all realize AP is dunzo right
hes gonna get six games per the new domestic policy right?
my guess is he is suspended for at least half the season by the vikings...perhaps the entire year
he needs to just go away. in fact, he may be going to jail.
i feel like something new has come out that i missed....cause how the hell is he going to jail?
theres a warrant out for his arrest?
he beat the farg out of his kid.
greg hardy is playing this weekend......the notion that ad is gone forever is ridiculous
oh not forever...never said that...just the rest of the season.
greg hardy is still playing because his crime was committed under the old rules and hes a defensive end for the carolina panthers. i cannot think of a more invisible thing to be. and there was no audio or video.
AP is one of the 5 biggest superstars in the league, this thing aint just blowing over.
Quote from: MDS on September 13, 2014, 02:01:59 AM
greg hardy is still playing because his crime was committed under the old rules
right and the rules now for a first offense is six games
and greg hardy is playing right now because his team is letting him
Quote from: MDS on September 13, 2014, 02:01:59 AM
there was no audio or video.
guess you haven't heard the 911 calls
I am not sure but I think that even though Goodell said 6 games on domestic violence that falls under the personal conduct policy and that is open to adjustment on a case by case basis. The PCP is not collectively bargained so what Goodell says goes. Sure the union could fight it but throwing support behind AD in this case? Bad bad PR move.
Also - AD has been charged with injury to a child and there are a couple different ways that can go. if it is a state jail felony then he will likely get sentenced to 6mo-2yr (state jail max is 2yrs). If he is in the upper class felony then he is looking at penitentiary time
So yeah...he's done if found guilty. And the evidence is pretty overwhelming.
His lawyer admits that he did it. They have texts saying he did it in his own words. They have pics.
The only legal thread, I think, his lawyer (Rusty Hardin - well known and top dollar obviously) has is that the first grand jury no billed it and then it was re-submitted.
im not saying i agree with it but hes gonna get way less than you think because hes arguing that he was just punishing his child in the same manner as he was punished by his father....to me that screams counseling way more than ray rice who only got counseling
and i actually believe that ad was just doing what his father did to him....similar to how mike vick thought nothing of dog fighting because that was a culture he grew up in or around...i dont think ad is a child abuser in the same way i believe ray rice is a women beater
No doubt...you're right. In his interview with the cops he mentioned a bunch how that is what he knows and that is what was done to him.
But I wonder how much weight that carries?
Will he go for a plea? If it gets to a jury then I think he will not get off
http://www.khou.com/story/sports/nfl/2014/09/13/adrian-peterson-turns-self-in-to-montgomery-county-authorities/15573315/
smiling mug shot = never good
Whipping a defenseless 4 year old is worse than cold-cocking a fully grown bitch who hit you first. Claiming he didn't know it was wrong because his old man did it to him is retarded. Jesus Christ.
The farg is wrong with you iceholes.
Yeah pretty sure I'm not saying that's right or he should get off
Just that's what his claim is and will be
Quote from: Rome on September 13, 2014, 08:00:19 AM
Whipping a defenseless 4 year old is worse than cold-cocking a fully grown bitch who hit you first.
first of all neanderthal she didnt hit him first...but lets say she did...you still dont knock her out...and before you come up with the hypothetical 'well what if she was coming at you with a knife' scenario...well just dont
secondly every kid deserves a good whippin...i got em you got em we all got em...ad went over the line clearly and needs to be taught parenting lessons but there is a line in punishing a child whereas you NEVER hit a women
Anyone who whips a 4 year-old with a goddamn tree branch belongs in prison for a long, long stretch. Just to be clear, Rice is a vile piece of shtein who belongs in the same cell alongside Petersen.
In terms of degree, however, viciously assaulting a defenseless toddler takes the prize for worst human.
What if this four year old your beating the shtein out of is a girl? Check mate, IGY.
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And there was reportedly a similar wound on the boy's scrotum.
LOL @ me being a neanderthal. You're the one suggesting whipping a kid's ass is in any way passable. Here's a clue for you, sunshine... it's not. Ever.
Quote from: Rome on September 13, 2014, 09:35:06 AM
Anyone who whips a 4 year-old with a goddamn tree branch belongs in prison for a long, long stretch.
my pops would still be in jail if whipping a kid with something put you in the pokey for a long stretch
if there was some systematic abuse where he was putting swisher sweets out on the kids back or had him locked in a basement for months on end then yeah....I don't even have a problem throwing ad in county for 30 days then parenting classes....but throwing him in the state pen for a "long long stretch"....nah
we got enough people in prison
Quote from: Rome on September 13, 2014, 09:36:56 AM
You're the one suggesting whipping a kid's ass is in any way passable. Here's a clue for you, sunshine... it's not. Ever.
actually it is
are you saying you never got the belt back in the day?
THERE IS NO SCENARIO, NO JUSTIFICATION, NO RATIONALIZATION, AND ABSOLUTELY NO INSTANCE WHERE BEATING/ABUSING A CHILD IS IN ANY WAY ACCEPTABLE.
Is that clear enough for you?
well you went from "whipping a kids ass" to "beating/abusing"
two completely different things
I think we all know you shouldn't abuse kids....
that's cutting edge stuff there
"Don't hit your kids with cutting edges." IGY, 2014
Spanking/whipping/whatever you want to call it isn't wrong as much as it's pointless. If spanking a kid truly modified behavior and was a positive teaching tool, then it would only need to be done 1 time. But ask any person who grew up getting spankings and most will tell you they go multiple spankings during their childhood.
It's lazy parenting.
You don't whip a kid's ass either. I do not and have never spanked my child. To do so is grotesque beyond words. And just because your father took the belt to you doesn't mean his actions were acceptable, IGY. They're weren't.
I disagree with corporal punishment in any form. The end.
Quote from: Sgt PSN on September 13, 2014, 10:02:00 AM
Spanking/whipping/whatever you want to call it isn't wrong as much as it's pointless. If spanking a kid truly modified behavior and was a positive teaching tool, then it would only need to be done 1 time. But ask any person who grew up getting spankings and most will tell you they go multiple spankings during their childhood.
It's lazy parenting.
no ones gonna stop doing dumb shtein cold turkey but the belt prevented me from doing a lot things I otherwise would have....and it always made me think twice
anyway as good as i turned out i should be the spokesperson for kiddie ass whoopings
You're the poster child for a lot of things, dude, but corporal punishment ain't one of em.
He teed that one up. I lol'd
im lol'ing at "corporal punishment"
RIF
DAMM (Drunks Against Mad Mothers)
FARM (Fathers Against Rap Music)
IIMFOA (Irony Impaired Motherfargers Of Amerikkka)
All organizations IGY could be the poster child for...
your pb&j's had the crust cut off for you didnt they?
http://nypost.com/2013/10/17/adrian-peterson-could-have-7-kids-ex/
QuoteThe Minnesota Vikings running back had at least five children out of wedlock and could have had as many as seven, according to one of his ex-girlfriends.
The public only knew of three of Peterson's children, before news surfaced of a fourth, a 2-year-old son, Tyrese, who died last week after he was allegedly beaten by the mother's current boyfriend.
Bunch if farging parenting experts around here. Who knew!
No one knows what the farg they're doing as a parent. No one. Everyone thinks they know, but they don't. That's why the world is so full of backwards iceholes. Judging other peoples parenting is like a farging cottage industry. Spanking and other corporal punishments have been shown to be ineffective and counter productive but they were part of parenting methodology for the entirety of human history. Is it really so worthy of shock or disgust? I'll wager green money that Adrian farging Peterson isn't exactly spending his free time reading about the latest child rearing research and methods. So get the dude some counseling and let's move on.
Also if someone could introduce him to the Trojan brand that might be a good thing.
so just to be clear
wife beating > child abuse
Don't be an idiot.
well some people think hitting a woman who "hit you first" aint no thing and some people think an "ass whoopin" of a kid is a-OK
just trying to get a sense for what neanderthalic working class white trash believes
both are bad dope...but theres a grey area when disciplining children....where as you never punch a women short of the obvious like shes coming at you with a knife
My point is not that it's ok to take a switch to a kid. It isn't. My point is that we can't just expect everyone to know that it's not okay when they were raised with it themselves. It's a problem of education, something that most parents are severely lacking. So get him some counseling/education and let's move on.
Quote from: rjs246 on September 13, 2014, 12:27:05 PM
My point is not that it's ok to take a switch to a kid. It isn't. My point is that we can't just expect everyone to know that it's not okay when they were raised with it themselves. It's a problem of education, something that most parents are severely lacking. So get him some counseling/education and let's move on.
ignorance is not an excuse
Quote from: ice grillin you on September 13, 2014, 12:21:00 PM
both are bad dope...but theres a grey area when disciplining children....where as you never punch a women short of the obvious like shes coming at you with a knife
there is no gray area when it comes to abusing your kid like AP did. i dont know what northeast philly shteinhole you grew up in, but you never put your hands on a kid or take the belt to him. that shtein is decades old. my folks got the belt and swore they never do it to their own.
Quote from: ice grillin you on September 13, 2014, 10:41:27 AM
Quote from: Sgt PSN on September 13, 2014, 10:02:00 AM
Spanking/whipping/whatever you want to call it isn't wrong as much as it's pointless. If spanking a kid truly modified behavior and was a positive teaching tool, then it would only need to be done 1 time. But ask any person who grew up getting spankings and most will tell you they go multiple spankings during their childhood.
It's lazy parenting.
no ones gonna stop doing dumb shtein cold turkey but the belt prevented me from doing a lot things I otherwise would have....and it always made me think twice
anyway as good as i turned out i should be the spokesperson for kiddie ass whoopings
I got my fair share of whoopings as a kid, too and I don't begrudge either of my parents for doing it. I was acting like a fleshpop and pissed them off. I spanked my kids a couple of times when they were younger....probably up until both of them turned 6 or 7. They were being dicks and pissed me off.
And that's the only problem I really have with it. My parents didn't spank me to teach me anything. They did it because they were pissed. I didn't spank my kids to teach them something. I did it because I was pissed.
I just don't think it's nearly as effective as most people believe it to be. Because if it did, then there'd be a lot more people acting right in the world. I also don't get my underoos twisted when I see someone else spank their kid (as long as they aren't beating him/her), but I do think they could take alternative actions that would be more beneficial. The only thing a spanking really teaches a kid is that it's ok to hit someone when they don't do what you want them to.
Quote from: rjs246 on September 13, 2014, 11:25:40 AM
Bunch if farging parenting experts around here. Who knew!
No one knows what the farg they're doing as a parent. No one. Everyone thinks they know, but they don't.
This. This. This.
QuoteThat's why the world is so full of backwards iceholes. Judging other peoples parenting is like a farging cottage industry. Spanking and other corporal punishments have been shown to be ineffective and counter productive but they were part of parenting methodology for the entirety of human history. Is it really so worthy of shock or disgust? I'll wager green money that Adrian farging Peterson isn't exactly spending his free time reading about the latest child rearing research and methods. So get the dude some counseling and let's move on.
Also if someone could introduce him to the Trojan brand that might be a good thing.
And this.
Quote from: MDS on September 13, 2014, 12:33:23 PM
there is no gray area when it comes to abusing your kid like AP did.
who said there was....do you even read....or do you just spazz out and slap whatever letters on the keyboard come to mind
do not
ever hit your girl
ever hit your kid
are we good?
Quote from: Sgt PSN on September 13, 2014, 12:34:04 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on September 13, 2014, 10:41:27 AM
Quote from: Sgt PSN on September 13, 2014, 10:02:00 AM
Spanking/whipping/whatever you want to call it isn't wrong as much as it's pointless. If spanking a kid truly modified behavior and was a positive teaching tool, then it would only need to be done 1 time. But ask any person who grew up getting spankings and most will tell you they go multiple spankings during their childhood.
It's lazy parenting.
no ones gonna stop doing dumb shtein cold turkey but the belt prevented me from doing a lot things I otherwise would have....and it always made me think twice
anyway as good as i turned out i should be the spokesperson for kiddie ass whoopings
I got my fair share of whoopings as a kid, too and I don't begrudge either of my parents for doing it. I was acting like a fleshpop and pissed them off. I spanked my kids a couple of times when they were younger....probably up until both of them turned 6 or 7. They were being dicks and pissed me off.
And that's the only problem I really have with it. My parents didn't spank me to teach me anything. They did it because they were pissed. I didn't spank my kids to teach them something. I did it because I was pissed.
I just don't think it's nearly as effective as most people believe it to be. Because if it did, then there'd be a lot more people acting right in the world. I also don't get my underoos twisted when I see someone else spank their kid (as long as they aren't beating him/her), but I do think they could take alternative actions that would be more beneficial. The only thing a spanking really teaches a kid is that it's ok to hit someone when they don't do what you want them to.
im not saying either way is right or wrong....whatever works for you....but ass whoopings serve a purpose
and by itself this is hilarious and should be on a t-shirt
QuoteThey were being dicks and pissed me off.
lol
im not shocked that we have child abuse....oh im sorry "ass whooping"....advocates here
2 days after everyone felt bad for ray rice we have this. down, deeper and deeper into the hole ya'all go.
you didnt let people smoke weed in your college house...im pretty sure an 'ass whoopin' is about as foreign as something could be to you
everyone needs a few beatdowns in their life...whether its by a parent or a friend or a rival neighborhood...it builds character
Quote from: ice grillin you on September 13, 2014, 12:52:49 PM
everyone needs a few beatdowns in their life...whether its by a parent or a friend or a rival neighborhood...it builds character
is this a joke? is this a new character you're playing called "neanderthal republican havas?"
and it was post college, but yea. physically abusing a child doesnt sound like a good idea to me. i guess im the crazy one.
i'm actually more disgusted by people on their high horse this week than both rice and peterson.
Know what'll help you feel better? Getting shteinfaced and playing craps in a week
holla. picked up wu-tang tix last night in case they sell out. my connection out there said it would be last minute for free ones and don't want to risk it.
did you say you got us a couch at legasse's for the birds game? one of my boys from cali is coming too, he's a dirty skins fan but good people.
Word...I'm gonna look for tix Thursday am
Yeah I have a couch reserved for three people for the early and late games. $50 per person per game so a hundo each total.
I just saw a copy of the indictment and it is a State Jail Felony
So if he's convicted and has to serve time then it's 6mo-2yrs
http://deadspin.com/tailgating-vikings-fan-wears-adrian-peterson-jersey-and-1634575091?utm_campaign=socialflow_deadspin_twitter&utm_source=deadspin_twitter&utm_medium=socialflow
haha child abuse! not a big deal. it makes a man stronger and teaches kids lessons. what lesson? i dont know. anyway dad is ANGRY because life is tough and work sucks and you kids are acting like kids and being annoying so im gonna BEAT YOU and now i feel better. YEA!! PARENTING!
anyway watch this: http://deadspin.com/emotional-cris-carter-on-child-abuse-my-mom-was-wrong-1634570468
kids are pusssssies
I was beaten as a kid by my ex step dad...so I am pretty sensitive towards child abuse. Some people who were abused as kids carry that over to when they have kids while other are repulsed by it and vow to never put a child of theirs through what they experienced...that's where I fall.
Quote from: ice grillin you on September 14, 2014, 12:37:32 PM
kids are pusssssies
QuoteAccording to police reports, the child, however, had a slightly different story, telling authorities that "Daddy Peterson hit me on my face." The child also expressed worry that Peterson would punch him in the face if the child reported the incident to authorities
WHAT A PUSSSSSY. get up you worthless 6 year old and hug and thank your abuser. that was a life lesson!
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on September 14, 2014, 12:42:45 PM
I was beaten as a kid by my ex step dad...so I am pretty sensitive towards child abuse. Some people who were abused as kids carry that over to when they have kids while other are repulsed by it and vow to never put a child of theirs through what they experienced...that's where I fall.
aaaaaaand here's some real shtein
wait so you are against child abuse?
Me? Yeah 1000%.
I believe discipline can be achieved without a beating.
i thought everyone was for abusing defenseless children.....my bad
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on September 14, 2014, 12:51:56 PM
Me? Yeah 1000%.
I believe discipline can be achieved without a beating.
no it cant
the only way a kid learns a lesson...whatever that is...is by giving him an ass whooping. thats it, thats the list. plus, violence builds character. without getting into a fight or facing the belt, what are you?
Quote from: ice grillin you on September 14, 2014, 12:53:01 PM
i thought everyone was for abusing defenseless children.....my bad
Of course not...but there are some who believe in it.
This is sounding less and less like a spanking-type correctional thing and more and more like outright abuse. farging christ.
where he's really farged is that he texted the mom saying he felt bad and that we went too far
At least he didn't mention the erection he had while he was doing it.
i think after seeing his smiley mugshot it's assumed
Peterson is practicing and playing this weekend
Not sure I agree with that one
my guess is the vikings are putting this in the league's hands. they wont suspend him and they cant deactivate him.
its on goodell. this will end well.
He should be well rested.
Quote from: General_Failure on September 15, 2014, 08:38:27 AM
At least he didn't mention the erection he had while he was doing it.
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it all cool people, charles barkley explained things for everyone. nothing to see here.
@adbrandt: On 11/25/13 the Vikings' AJ Jefferson was arrested on domestic assault charges. He was released an hour later. Due process?
maybe it was just a child abuse party...let's wait until the details come out.
did sarge throw it?
regardless of what you think about it, someone wrote a pretty solid statement for him.
QuoteMy attorney has asked me not to discuss the facts of my pending case. I hope you can respect that request and help me honor it. I very much want the public to hear from me but I understand that it is not appropriate to talk about the facts in detail at this time. Nevertheless, I want everyone to understand how sorry I feel about the hurt I have brought to my child.
I never wanted to be a distraction to the Vikings organization, the Minnesota community or to my teammates. I never imagined being in a position where the world is judging my parenting skills or calling me a child abuser because of the discipline I administered to my son.
I voluntarily appeared before the grand jury several weeks ago to answer any and all questions they had. Before my grand jury appearance, I was interviewed by two different police agencies without an attorney. In each of these interviews I have said the same thing, and that is that I never ever intended to harm my son. I will say the same thing once I have my day in court.
I have to live with the fact that when I disciplined my son the way I was disciplined as a child, I caused an injury that I never intended or thought would happen. I know that many people disagree with the way I disciplined my child. I also understand after meeting with a psychologist that there are other alternative ways of disciplining a child that may be more appropriate.
I have learned a lot and have had to reevaluate how I discipline my son going forward. But deep in my heart I have always believed I could have been one of those kids that was lost in the streets without the discipline instilled in me by my parents and other relatives. I have always believed that the way my parents disciplined me has a great deal to do with the success I have enjoyed as a man. I love my son and I will continue to become a better parent and learn from any mistakes I ever make.
I am not a perfect son. I am not a perfect husband. I am not a perfect parent, but I am, without a doubt, not a child abuser. I am someone that disciplined his child and did not intend to cause him any injury. No one can understand the hurt that I feel for my son and for the harm I caused him. My goal is always to teach my son right from wrong and that's what I tried to do that day.
I accept the fact that people feel very strongly about this issue and what they think about my conduct. Regardless of what others think, however, I love my son very much and I will continue to try to become a better father and person.
I wonder how he would feel if someone whipped him with a farging stick?
Or better yet, let's just tie his ass to a tree and take a few cracks at him with a bullwhip?
Goddamn neanderthals.
its really unbelievable how many people are pro-child abuse
a real eye opener for me. not only how often it happens, but how glowingly people talk about it. like this 4 year old is better because his ogre (absentee) father took a branch to his pre pubescent nutsack. this country is disgusting.
thats another thing nobody is talking about. AP has like 6 kids with 5 different women. the 1 time a year he sees this kid he decides to abuse him. great parenting. the therapy bills hes going to have to pay in 6 years...
didn't one of his kids already die from getting beat?
The ESPN poll showed 66% of respondents support Petersen's reinstatement.
http://espn.go.com/espn/fp/flashPollResultsState?sportIndex=frontpage&pollId=4498537
2 of 3. That is literally unbelievable to me.
I've always hated humans but this society is nearing the tipping point in terms of its own destruction.
50 years ago it would have been 4 out of 5. Or more.
Quote from: Geowhizzer on September 15, 2014, 07:19:22 PM
50 years ago it would have been 4 out of 5. Or more.
decent point. we're evolving!
also, he beat ANOTHER one of his kids. peterson is a violent psychopath: http://deadspin.com/adrian-peterson-accused-of-beating-another-son-leaving-1635102727
http://www.khou.com/story/news/investigations/2014/09/15/new-accusations-peterson-injured-another-son-while-disciplining-4-year-old/15693941/
Yep.
omgsurprise
I don't have anything to say because mds has the right of it. Don't hit four year olds.
http://vikingsmessageboard.com/
i dont know if im more disgusted with peterson hitting his kids or peterson trying to be an authority figure when he has 6 kids with 6 different women. he has 2 different 4 year olds...and this guy is a "parent" who should be a respected figure and handing out life lessons to the youngins. meanwhile his dick is going in any black Hoyda with a pulse. get real.
the vikings are a disgrace.
Quote from: Diomedes on September 15, 2014, 08:11:16 PM
I don't have anything to say because mds has the right of it. Don't hit four year olds.
Pretty much sums it up.
Sponsors beginning to yank their affiliations with Minny
Radisson is out
Quote from: Rome on September 15, 2014, 07:02:05 PM
Or better yet, let's just tie his ass to a tree and take a few cracks at him with a bullwhip?
Goddamn neanderthals.
What do you mean, "let's" white man? Did you really have to take it there?
Beaners are OUT. Too busy picking grapes. We got this.
Come to think of it us Micks are out too. Too busy getting drunk and beating each other.
Quote from: MDS on September 15, 2014, 08:13:18 PM
he has 2 different 4 year olds...
this made me laugh.
Remember that in 8 months when you get a dozen phone calls from Nicaragua.
they can't afford calling the states. all good.
and they're too busy dodging meteorites
Quote from: Seabiscuit36 on September 16, 2014, 02:22:18 PM
and they're too busy dodging meteorites
is that code for ginger balls ?
@RVacchianoNYDN: And ... RT @APkrawczynski: An eye-opening development: Nike stores in Twin Cities have pulled all Adrian Peterson merch from shelves. Nike.
And Anheuser Busch isn't happy either
Let's see how long Rog and his band of merry owners put up with sponsors expressing displeasure and or bowing out
They put the father of the year on indefinite leave. I presume he'll still get paid to keep up on the child support payments, though, which is nice.
Also - I can't stop reading the comments after each subsequent release of new information and they're almost as bad as Peterson's actions.
People aren't just awful, they're defiantly awful, as in, they defy all reason. I say this a lot, but we are DOOMED.
Monday they threw their GM out to fall on the grenade and say how they believed in due process
Sponsors start yanking money and threatening too?
Shut it down! Get him outta here!
The Wilf statement is so hollow.
You shoulda done this days ago icehole!
And how awful is Goodell? He's said nothing in the last week about anything
The ny papers killed him again this am and deservedly so
Nike has suspended its contract with Peterson
i post on another board with fans that follow other teams from all over and to a person every one that agreed with AP was from the south. some suggestin that the north is attacking their culture and way of life from the vick situation, the domestic violence problems and this AP issue.
Reggie Bush defends Adrian Peterson, says he'd 'harshly' discipline his 1-year-old daughter (http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/football/reggie-bush-defends-adrian-peterson-harshly-discipline-one-year-old-daughter-article-1.1941572)
Quote"I definitely will try to — will obviously not leave bruises or anything like that on her. But I definitely will discipline her harshly depending on what the situation is."
When asked if he'd use a tree branch "switch" like Peterson did on his four-year-old son, Bush said "I would possibly consider it, depending on what she did."
Reggie Bush is an idiot.
And yeah Sean...I hear the same thing from people around here. They cling to the way of life and how it was and how their pappy's beat that ass. They also defend the confederate flag too...so yeah
They're worried about their culture being attacked? I hope they fans of Washington.
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2014/09/17/gloria-allred-calls-presser-to-detail-another-nfl-abuse-case/
https://twitter.com/Matt_Martin2/status/512302385142976512/photo/1
yeeeeep...no shock
before i die, which likely will be soon, i want to see the sensible part of the country separate from those lunatics
they can have the history, the name, the constitution...all of it. take it. we'll be New America, or something. i dont know. im ready to divorce and ready to give up the kids and the house to get the farg outta this thing.
Give everyone a couple years to move out of wherever and close the borders down. Let the south ahve their slaves again, shoot any of them who try to chase their escaping slaves into our lands, etc.
Sign me up.
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on September 17, 2014, 12:49:38 PM
Reggie Bush is an idiot.
And yeah Sean...I hear the same thing from people around here. They cling to the way of life and how it was and how their pappy's beat that ass. They also defend the confederate flag too...so yeah
it's amazing to hear all of these people defend this. especially considering the age of the kid involved. now bush saying he would do the same to his 1 yr old ?? :boom
Unconfirmed reports of Cards RB Jonathan Dwyer being arrested for....
if you guess domestic violence you would be correct, sir.
Seriously though, what's up with running backs this year?
Injured, domestic violence, or Eagles. Those are your three options as an RB.
Wrap Shady and Sproles in bubble wrap and don't let them leave.
Coming soon - Gloria Allred finds the hooker that Shady kicked off the bus along the turnpike and files suit.
@SouhanStrib: So, if AP had done what he did in Minnesota instead of Texas, would have faced up to 10 yrs in jail, per @StarTribune report.
Like I mentioned before he's facing a state jail felony here: 6mo to 2 yrs
how long til one of these launch a concussion defense and blame the nfl
class action suit from nlf child abusers and wife beaters
https://mtc.cdn.vine.co/r/videos/46257146161125483380944048128_2e9c6ab554f.5.1.5322294077768982747.mp4?versionId=A9Xqdm8LozjqpZWNw20d.3S5EwEDaRH3
Oh Ray Lewis...
Lol. You'd think someone at espn would be smart enough to not allow ray ray to comment on any of this.
He's an expert at cover ups
AC PD says they sent the Rice beating tape to the NFL head of security
Well then...goodbye Rog
you mean goodbye nfl head of security and/or one or two of his minions
Well that too. Pressure gets turned up on Rog too
Jeffrey Miller is an ex Penn Stater and former PA State Police head
unless theres a video of goodell actually watching the rice elevator punch on his ipad that ahole isn't going anywhere
You're probably right
Bill Simmons fist pumped and sent a fleshpop pic to his bosses after this news came out I bet
Quote from: ice grillin you on September 25, 2014, 09:14:52 PM
unless theres a video of goodell actually watching the rice elevator punch on his ipad that ahole isn't going anywhere
yup
he sucked too much dick to get his job, so he aint quitting. and has made the owners too much money for them to fire him over a bad month of pr
this whole thing will be over sooner or later and the nfl machine will go on making trillions
http://blacksportsonline.com/home/2014/09/gloria-allred-says-nfl-player-raped-woman-last-saturday-played-on-sunday/
The Eagles should have a woman accuse Kaepernick of rape tonight so he can't play tomorrow...is that the precedent they're going after?
Quote from: SD on September 27, 2014, 06:51:05 PM
The Eagles should have a woman accuse Kaepernick of rape tonight so he can't play tomorrow...is that the precedent they're going after?
In fact it was a gang rape with Patrick Willis, Ahmad Brooks, and Justin Smith in there too.
Pretty sure the main thing Allred is going after is keeping her name in the news. Which is not to say that this isn't a valid allegation. There probably is at least one oafish NFL player raping someone every Saturday night, or two if Roethlisberger has a Sunday night away game.
how did a player rape a girl on a saturday and play sunday? they are all in the hotel the night before a game and don't go out.
http://blacksportsonline.com/home/2014/09/ex-nfl-rb-charlie-garner-arrested-for-dui-chasing-a-btch/
That Garner story is somewhat awesome
Quote from: SD on September 27, 2014, 06:51:05 PM
The Eagles should have a woman accuse Kaepernick of rape tonight so he can't play tomorrow...is that the precedent they're going after?
apparently it was the eagles offense that train raped her and goodell acted accordingly.
Here's the incident Allred was referring to
http://m.nydailynews.com/sports/football/cowboys-player-accused-sexually-assaulting-woman-article-1.1960275?cid=bitly?$242424&utm_content=bufferc0d5f&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter.com&utm_campaign=NYDailyNewsTw
http://blacksportsonline.com/home/2014/10/dolphins-derrick-shelby-arrested-for-trespassing-cops-beat-him-down/
whitesportsonline.com approves of and supports the cops' actions.
Quote from: Rome on October 05, 2014, 11:47:09 AM
nascar.com approves of and supports the cops' actions.
http://www.myfoxhouston.com/story/26748108/adrian-peterson-could-be-arrested-again-on-drug-violation#.VDbhRtvRFGY.twitter
He could write a book about how to ruin a potential legendary career in just a few easy steps. Even OJ waited until he was done.
Yeah really
I mean you're on bond and one of the conditions is no drugs and usually no booze
And this clown smokes out before a court appearance?
http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nfl/2014/10/09/jerry-angelo-chicago-bears-national-football-league/16981865/
QuoteTim MacMahon @espn_macmahon 1m1 minute ago
Frisco Lt. Jason Jenkins said Cowboys RB Joseph Randle was arrested for stealing underwear and cologne from Dillard's.
What is he, 15?
Either that or a klepto like Winona Ryder
$120 worh of shtein and he's making $490k
man gotta have sum fresh draws & smelling all fly y'all
Like you guys have never shtein yourselves while out somewhere and were too embarrassed to pay for new underwear with your poop money.
ABC News @ABC 6m6 minutes ago
San Jose Police: Search warrant served at home of 49ers lineman Ray McDonald after adult female was allegedly sexually assaulted Dec. 15.
No more
SF terminated his contact immediately