1. fletcher cox = B+ - didnt necesarily think they needed to trade up but they got their man and arguably the best at his position
2. mychal kendricks = B - i like the player i hate the decision to try and run him at SAM
2. vinny curry = B- - not an exciting player and i woud have went in a different direction but the guy has potential to be very productive
3. nick foles = D+ - made no sense whatsoever
4. brandon boykin - A+ - could make a great case to have picked him in the 3rd
5. dennis kelly = F - puke
6. marvin mcnutt = A - exactly where they should have went at this point in the draft
6. brandon washington = B+ - big time value
7. bryce brown - B - im always for going after the talent and athleticism over all else....thats what this pick is
B+
the most impressive thing about this draft imo was the strategy...before the draft i was on record as saying all defense and then some OL depth...more or less thats what they did and it was a script that was perfectly followed
whats everyone else got??
NFL Network gave it a B-, worst in the division
ESPN had it as one of the two best, along with the Colts
Love the Cox pick, OK with the next 3 defensive ones, meh on the QB, and the last four will battle for depth spots but I'm not expecting much from them. I didn't really see anyone that they missed out on. I'll give it a B+.
what did nfln criticize about it?
Didn't like the Curry pick and questioned the Foles pick. They gave an A to Dallas and Bs to NY and Washington
Haters gonna hate.
LOL....not saying the Foles pick isn't questionable but how do you grade the racists higher when they drafted 2 qbs in the first 3 rounds?
Kiper just gave the Birds an A too, says they and the Bengals had the best drafts
Quote from: BigEd76 on April 28, 2012, 06:55:05 PM
Didn't like the Curry pick and questioned the Foles pick. They gave an A to Dallas and Bs to NY and Washington
taterskins had a gimme #2 pick and were awful the rest of the way - D+
i think claiborne was the best pick of the draft but they were pretty vanilla otherwise - C+
giants panicked with wilson but made up for it with randle...the rest of ok - B
Quote from: BigEd76 on April 28, 2012, 06:58:11 PM
Kiper just gave the Birds an A too, says they and the Bengals had the best drafts
I don't agree with that either. I think they had a very good draft but I don't think it was 1 of the 2 best drafts. They're in B+/A- territory though.
How in the hell does anyone, even their mouth breather fans, give Dallas an A?
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on April 28, 2012, 07:23:06 PM
How in the hell does anyone, even their mouth breather fans, give Dallas an A?
Because half the people that throw out grades only look at how big the names are and how they are rated, especially if they have star power. I know they have traded down in the past but still, nothing says dallas mentality more than that. They don't take into account who else dallas could have had if they stayed pat and who they could have had from the middle of the second round. They just see the hyped player.
Farg dallas
1. Cox - There were a number of players that I would have liked here, but Cox was right at the top of the list for me, along with Barron. I don't mind the trade up to make sure they got their guy, especially since the Rams ended up going DT at 15. They got the cream of the crop in what was considered the deepest position in the draft. A
2. Kendricks - Again... he along with David, were the top LB's on the list for me. I actually saw a good number of Cal games thru work this year and Kendricks always stood out on D. A productive player at a position of need is always good and I loved Polian calling him "Bloodthirsty". Exactly what you want your LB's to be. I don't know about them talking about moving him to SAM though. We'll see. B+
2. Curry - Another productive player (26 sacks in 2 yrs) at a position that they could use some more youth. He's got a solid frame to build on and I think Washburn can get some production out of him in the rotation. Not a big run stuffer, but if you think they give a damn about that under this wide 9, then you haven't been paying attention. B
3. Foles - Whatever. You knew there were gonna be some "WTF" picks along the way. Here it is. No point in grabbing your "QB of the future" if you're not grabbing him early on. Brady notwithstanding. D
4. Boykin - Another thing that bothered me about the Foles pick was that I thought they'd missed out on Boykin for sure. So, I was pleasanty surprised to see him still on the board for them to grab in the 4th. B+
5. Kelly - They drafted the farging missing link. Should be fine as long as he doesn't have to block. D
6. McNutt - Big WR who knows how to use his body when going up to snatch passes out of the air instead of waiting for them to come down to him. Not a burner, and he'll need to rely on route-running to get open in the NFL.. but should be able to provide some help in the red zone. I think they were considering a move for Plax at some point... this is their answer for that. Pretty good value for the 6th round. B
6. Washington - Athletic G for Mudd to make something out of. Looks like a road grader type that should provide good depth for the line. Again, good value so late. B-
7. Brown - No risk whatsoever. You're basically taking fliers in the 7th anyway (unless you're the Eagles where you're normally looking for starting LB's). Sounds like a guy who can be a real find if he reaches his potential. Still no real backup option for Shady though at this point. C+
Overall, B - has the looks of a real solid draft. Even if the picks don't pan out, you can't really fault Andy/Howie on this one too much because they at least addressed defensive needs on all 3 levels, with productive players... and athletic productive players at that. Still a head scratcher or two... but a nice haul overall.
excellent review but i feel like you liked the draft more than me yet i had it a B+
I definitely like the little deviation from the previous philosophy of not taking BPA and going with good football players. There were a few exceptions with the QB and OT but other than that it looks like they took BPA's. They also didn't let character concerns sway them.
My biggest thing that I liked was they took productive guys. Too many times in the past they may have relied on measurables or post-season AS game/practice performances. I will always go with a guy who performs on the field in games regardless of what college he attended. I said that back when Brandon Marshall and Greg Jennings were coming out. Smaller school guys who threw up huge numbers.
1. FLETCHER COX - A: Mark Barron was my number one want but he went too high. To have Cox fall enough for them to jump up there a couple spots and grab him was huge. He was the #1 ranked DT and can rush the passer. Once Washburn polishes him up we'll see a guy who will disrupt the pocket. With Jenkins getting older and Patterson a blocker-eater they needed a top tier guy. I don't mind the trade up because I think he's worth it; the fact the recouped the 4th was a bonus.
2. MYCHAL KENDRICKS - A: I love watching good LB play and that's been missing for the most part for years. I like his speed and he seems to be a sure tackler and like Dawk would say "has some dog in him". The move to SAM I am not sure about but if he can ball then why not? Let him get out there and see what he can do. Worst case is you move him weakside and put Chaney at SAM. He's small but he played middle at CAL and had to take on lead blocks there too. I like a guy who can run with TEs.
2. VINNY CURRY - B+: Like I said above, I like to see production. He can rush the passer and he's made for this scheme. As we have seen with the Giants, they have a bunch of guys who can bring pressure and Curry adds another bullet in the DE rotation.
3. NICK FOLES - D: Did not like this pick at all. He may turn out to be a good player and honestly they better hope he is. He seems to have a bigger arm than Kafka, who I think is very limited, and Trent Edwards is a bum. Like the rest of you I believed there were other players on the board who would have been better in this spot. TY Hilton, Jayron Hosely, Brandon Boykin or Lamar Miller should have been the pick here.
4. BRANDON BOYKIN - B+: Loved this pick and they were lucky to get him. With Hanson getting older, Nnamdi and DRC not the best slot guys and Marsh and Hughes being unproven they needed a slot guy. They nailed it here and also get his return skills as a bonus. Let's hope he stays healthy.
5. DENNIS KELLY - D: He wasn't invited to the combine and has a propensity to hold a lot. He also doesn't fit Mudd's OL criteria because he's so big. But Andy always gets an OL project and this guy is it. I would have rather seen Chris Rainey, George Iloka or Asa Jackson here.
6. MARVIN MCNUTT - B: Production! Caught 82 balls at Iowa...that is an accomplishment. He's big and hopefully will unseat Sunshine Cooper as the 4th wideout. Excellent pick for the 6th round.
6. BRANDON WASHINGTON - B: A big boy who can move and plays nasty. Everything I have read says he pulls well and is light on his feet for being 320. I like when OL are described as brutal blockers. He slid a bit based on projections. Nice pick.
7. BRYCE BROWN - B: Character concerns be damned, they took a shot on a 6-0 223 guy who blazes a 4.4. I liked Andy's reasoning of taking him to avoid a bidding war so that shows that they really see something despite him not playing college ball much. He's a longshot to pan out but the fact they took a potential playmaker rather than mailing it in and taking another interior OL or DE says something.
OVERALL: A-
I liked what they did on 7/9 picks...so that says A- for me.
an overall grade would be appreciated
Quote from: ice grillin you on April 29, 2012, 01:43:57 AM
excellent review but i feel like you liked the draft more than me yet i had it a B+
I noticed that as I was giving the final grade. I like the draft a lot at this point, but I can't give them an A because 2 of the 9 picks I thought was dumb as hell. Then I couldn't really give a B+ because you did. Had you given a B, I probably would have went B+... so it's your fault for farging things up.
Quote from: Feva on April 29, 2012, 02:47:21 AM
Then I couldn't really give a B+ because you did. Had you given a B, I probably would have went B+... so it's your fault for farging things up.
i normally get killed for hating too much...now i am jerking off all over one of my teams and im farging things up
you could have just gone A--
just saw that they signed cliff harris as an udfa...he was someone i wanted in the 5th or 6th round...an excellent corner and a next level return man...has some off the field problems but imo was one of the best two or three corners in the entire country in 2009...hes a def 2nd or 3rd round talent
Great signing. His off field problems were not that bad. Speeding, pot.
QuoteCliff Harris was one of college football's enigmas in 2011: blessed with first-round talent and the confidence to go with it, Harris missed much of his final season with the Oregon Ducks while suspended after multiple legal incidents, and saw his 2012 NFL Draft stock plummet as a result. He'll have a chance to catch on in the NFL after signing a deal as an undrafted free agent with the Philadelphia Eagles, according to Neil Stratton.
Harris is the sort of playmaker with ball skills, when on, who could develop into an Asante Samuel-like player with Philadelphia. And if he sticks in camp, Harris might yet replace Samuel, who the Eagles shipped to the Atlanta Falcons earlier this week.
Harris was also an electric return man for the Ducks prior to 2011, and gives the Eagles, who have DeSean Jackson and Jeremy Maclin, surplus speed at the position.
http://www.usatoday.com/sports/college/football/pac12/story/2011-12-06/oregon-cliff-harris-dismissed/51671870/1 (http://www.usatoday.com/sports/college/football/pac12/story/2011-12-06/oregon-cliff-harris-dismissed/51671870/1)
I liked every pick except the hair band roadie. I would have preferred Cousins over Foles and there's no farging way I would have picked either one in the third round, but I can't fault Andy's decision to actually take a QB, especially with the prospect of Trent Edwards potentially making the final roster otherwise.
My favorite pick was Boykin. And I liked the Curry pick very much too. Anyone with that sort of passion for the game (and the Eagles) gets a thumbs up from me.
Overall: A-
Bleacher Report luvs them sum Howie:
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1161221-2012-nfl-draft-grades-report-card-for-all-32-gms/page/20
A/A+ picks:
Cox, Boykin, McNutt, Washington
A-/B+ picks:
Kendricks, Curry, Brown
C/C- picks:
Foles, Kelly
Considering where they got the players, here's how I break it out. The main reason I don't go lower than average for Foles is that the QBs likely available in the 4th wouldn't have even been worth taking. Was really hoping they would get Russell Wilson in that spot (and frankly I think they were too). Kelly is a big ugly oaf, but I imagine he got the thumbs up from Mudd... And it's not like they wasted a really early pick.
The biggest negative of the draft as a whole is the lack of addressing the safety position. Probably "should" have done that with the Curry pick, but the value of that pick is really good. Don't think any safeties were available that would have made the same kind of impact. Shame they picke Graham instead of Earl Thomas a couple of years ago.
I really wish you would all stop with the cutting edge analysis and concern of Kendricks' ability to play SAM. Go find a 6'3" linebacker that can both take a pounding and has fluid hips and catlike agility... Until then, spare us and spare yourselves the embarrassment of your efforts. Let it play out. Thank God they didn't draft a safety. We'd have to talk about whether he will play FS or SS and how those roles actually reversed when Castillo took over the defense.
But anyway, couldn't have expected much better the day after. Now let's see if these kids can actually play a lick in the NFL.
Grade: A-
What I like is the seeming 180 the eagles have done for their draft day. They appeared disciplined, stuck to a plan, adapted as the moment unfolded and most of all jettisoned the "smartest guys in the room moneyball" horseshtein. Other than the well skewered couple of stretches, the players selected combined for both need and best talent available at the time. Love the ud pick today.
I think the best part is that no matter what, in years hence, you wont be able to point and laugh at this draft like so many in the past 8 years.
For that, draft strategy and discipline gets an A
Draft day execution gets a B+
Player selection is a B+, only held back by the Qb and that lurch who looks like an xtra from the Walking Dead
Oh yes, an A for the player quotient of last names affording the many dick jokes.
And another A for seeing so many :CF 'ers on the board at one time again.
Hard to hate anything they did. Now all the players have to do is live up to everyone's hopes. No problem, right?
I give the draft an A-. The Foles and Kelly pick were the only players I wasn't thrilled with and they mopped up in the UDFA department. Couldn't be happier. By comparison I gave last years draft an F when they reached for everyone.
I think from a pure draft standpoint this is by far the best under Andy Reid. Love the Kendricks and Boykin picks I think they could provide a much needed spark for the defense.
I think Kendricks being a SAM is a little overrated from the standpoint of the defense they run. It is not a traditional SAM Lb.
Also really liked the Bryce Brown pick, he was rated by many as the #1 HS prospect coming out, a little bit of a headcase but certainly has a ton of talent.
The only WTF pick for me was the Kelly pick
I am not as down on the Foles pick as the rest of you are, AR deserves some credit when it comes to drafting QBs he was picked about where he was supposed to be.
I like the Curry pick in that I think he has an opportunity to be a very valuable rotational guy. He is also Graham insurance because I am not convinced he will ever come back from the micro fracture surgery.
Overall I think this is a solid A draft every team including the Ravens/Steelers have WTF picks. That said they finally had a Steelers/Ravens type draft, I don't think I could be more excited.
Quote from: Drunkmasterflex on April 29, 2012, 01:25:32 PM
... I don't think I could be more excited.
...somebody needs to get out more ;-).
I actually spent the day getting shteinfaced yesterday, I am such a nerd I dvr'd the draft and watched it this morning.
As I think about it more... one thing that I didn't give the Eagles props for, which turned out to be pretty big, is trading out of #51 and getting back into the 4th round which allowed them to grab Boykin. Then still being able to grab Curry at #59, who some were calling a late 1st round talent.
Not too bad of 4th round haul when it brings you DeMeco, Cox and Boykin...
Adam Caplan says this is the first time in the Reid era that he couldn't really question anything about their draft. He thinks Cox and Kendricks will start right away. He also said the Eagles wanted Russell Wilson at the Foles pick, and they never really liked Tannehill.
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SI
Philadelphia Eagles: I'm very unconvinced that QB Nick Foles will ever be an NFL starter, so using a third-rounder (88) on him stings. Aside from that, this was gold. Philadelphia robbed the league by trading up for DT Fletcher Cox at 12, then added solid pieces in LB Mychal Kendricks (46), DE Vinny Curry (59), CB Brandon Boykin (123), WR Marvin McNutt (194) and G/T Brandon Washington (200). Grade: A-minus
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Walter
2012 NFL Draft Grade: A-
Goals Entering the 2012 NFL Draft: The Eagles don't really have many needs, so they can afford to take the best player available at almost every pick. Areas that still need to be upgraded are strongside linebacker, strong safety and cornerback depth. A big receiver and a successor for the current starting quarterback should also be considered.
2012 NFL Draft Accomplishments: Philadelphia addressed every single position listed above (save for strong safety) and selected great value prospects with nearly every choice. Eagle fans should be very pleased with this class.
Fletcher Cox was considered to be the top pass-rusher in the 2012 NFL Draft despite being an interior defensive lineman. The Eagles did well to move up three spots for him, merely giving up fourth- and sixth-round picks in the process. Andy Reid had so many selections to work with, so it was a deal he could afford to make.
I like both prospects Philadelphia secured in the second round. Vinny Curry is an avid Eagle fan and was projected by some to be a late first-round pick. Mychal Kendricks, meanwhile, was highly productive at Cal, winning the Pac-12 Defensive Player of the Year. However, I have some concern that he won't be able to play strongside linebacker, where's he'll be stationed. There's no denying his talent though, so it wouldn't surprise me if he succeeded in his new position.
Elsewhere, the Eagles found corner depth (Brandon Boykin) and a big receiver (Marvin McNutt). Strong safety wasn't addressed, but I don't see why Reid would give up on Jaiquwan Jarrett so quickly. Still, it wouldn't have been a bad idea to find competition there instead of Nick Foles. I'm not a fan of the inaccurate and checkdown-happy Foles whatsoever, so I see that as a wasted pick.
12. Fletcher Cox, DT, Mississippi State: A Grade
I normally don't like it when teams trade up, but Fletcher Cox is talented and could have gone as high as No. 6 or 7, so the Eagles are getting great value here for a mere fourth- and sixth-rounder. Cox is a perfect fit for Jim Washburn's scheme.
46. Mychal Kendricks, ILB, California: B+ Grade
I'm going to need an explanation for this because both Mychal Kendricks and DeMeco Ryans are inside linebackers. Perhaps the Eagles think Kendricks can play SAM. We'll see. What I do know is that Kendricks is incredibly talented. He might fill a need at one of the linebacker positions and he fits the range.
59. Vinny Curry, DE, Marshall: A Grade
A few mocks had Vinny Curry going in the very end of the first round. He was No. 44 on the consensus big board, so the Eagles are obviously obtaining some value with this selection. Curry doesn't fill an immediate need, but I can't blame Andy Reid, who loves bolstering the defensive front, for providing some insurance for Brandon Graham, who is coming off a nasty knee injury.
88. Nick Foles, QB, Arizona: D Grade
I mocked Nick "checkdown" Foles to the Eagles - but in the fourth round. This is a bit of a reach, and I'll be shocked if Foles pans out. There's too much Blaine Gabbert with Foles. They even have the same hair style.
123. Brandon Boykin, CB, Georgia: A+ Grade
Awesome pick. Brandon Boykin was ranked No. 61 on Mike Mayock's board. Scouts Inc. slotted him at No. 52. We had him at No. 63. I mocked him in the second. He's a steal at No. 123. He also fills a need because Asante Samuel was traded.
153. Dennis Kelly, OT, Purdue: D Grade
This pick surprises me for two reasons. First, no major big board had Dennis Kelly ranked in the top 225. Second, I don't think he is a good fit for Philadelphia's blocking scheme.
194. Marvin McNutt, WR, Iowa: A+ Grade
Here's the big receiver that Eagle fans have been coveting. Marvin McNutt (6-3, 216) is a great value selection; he's No. 109 on the consensus board. If some team picked him in the third round, it would have been acceptable. Philadelphia's offense will be much better in the red zone if McNutt pans out.
200. Brandon Washington, G/OT, Miami: A+ Grade
The Eagles are collecting sixth-round steals. Brandon Washington is No. 121 on the consensus board. In addition to providing great value this late in the 2012 NFL Draft, he also fills a need. Philadelphia needed to find tackle depth in the wake of Jason Peters' unfortunate Achilles injury.
229. Bryce Brown, RB, Kansas State: B+ Grade
Bryce Brown is either going to make the team play well or get cut right away. But these are the type of boom-or-bust picks you're supposed to make in Round 7. Brown was highly recruited coming out of high school, but flamed out at both Tennessee and Kansas State. Maybe Andy Reid can turn his football career around.
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Czarnecki
Coach Andy Reid took a lot of heat last season for naming offensive-line coach Juan Castillo his defensive coordinator. Well, this year Castillo has run out of excuses, because they drafted some tremendous defensive talent. Fletcher Cox can anchor the interior of Philadelphia's wide-nine approach with its pass rushers.
Cal linebacker Mychal Kendricks was the second-best middle linebacker in a 4-3 scheme. Kendricks has some injury issues, but is a rock-solid football player.
Georgia cornerback Brandon Boykin can handle the slot, while defensive end Vinny Curry had 26 1/2 sacks at Marshall. Curry is a street kid from New Jersey who has turned around his life despite a learning disability. He has tremendous upside.
Of course, Reid couldn't help himself with the pick of Arizona quarterback Nick Foles, who broke Drew Brees' records at Westlake High in Austin, Texas. Unlike Michael Vick, Foles has feet of cement, but he does have very good arm strength. Grade: B
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Sporting News
Key picks: DT Fletcher Cox, ILB Mychal Kendricks, DE Vinny Curry.
The Eagles plugged nearly all their 4-3 defensive holes. Juan Castillo should be happy
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Kiper
One of the best drafts in terms of lining up needs and getting guys at spots where I didn't think they'd still be around. They moved up to get Fletcher Cox, an immediate starter. Mychal Kendricks is a perfect fit, and at No. 46, a really good value. The Eagles look a lot better up the middle after this weekend. If Vinny Curry came off the board really early in the second round, nobody would have been surprised, so to get him at No. 59 is a steal. Nick Foles has the upside of an NFL starter, and Andy Reid could turn him into something. Brandon Boykin is my No. 9-ranked corner, so I love the value as a fourth-rounder. I thought they might get a tackle earlier, but it's hard to quibble given the value they got with every pick early on. I love this draft, and Bryce Brown will be an interesting story if he sticks. Keep an eye on Brandon Washington, a sixth-rounder with the upside of a starter at guard.
Needs - A, Value - A-, Overall - A
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Football Nation
There has been a ton of talk about how well teams did in this years draft. I've decided to grade two teams, one AFC and one NFC. The AFC team will be covered next article. The NFC team I decided upon was none other than the Philadelphia Eagles.
Eagles selected Fletcher Cox, DT, Mississippi St, 12th overall (from Seahawks)
This was one of the best picks of the first round. Cox is a big, fast, and athletic DT. I saw Cox going top 10 definitely, needless to say, I was wrong. Cox is arguably the best all around defensive player in the draft. All this, plus the fact that the Eagles needed help defending against the run makes this pick a great one.
Grade for this pick - A
Eagles selected Mychal Kendricks, LB, California, 46th overall
This pick is another standout pick. While Kendricks is a bit undersized at 5'11, he has the athleticism to be a premier pass rusher if the Eagles put Kendricks on the outside. However, Kendricks is a formidable run stop LB too. Kendricks should definitely help the Eagles handle opposing running games, an area where they struggled at many times last year.
Grade for this pick - B
Eagles selected Vinny Curry, DE, Marshall, 59th overall (from Packers)
I was scratching my head at first to this pick, the Eagles didn't need a DE, especially not this early. However, after thinking about it, I realized Curry has potential to be a top 10 pass rusher. However, Curry isn't great at stopping the run, but he is good at getting around OTs. I suspect Curry will sit behind Trent Cole and Jason Babin this year, meaning we'll probably only see him as a special steamer this year.
Grade for this pick - B
Eagles selected Nick Foles, QB, Arizona, 88th overall (from Texans)
Not the biggest fan of this pick. Foles is a bit slow when in the pocket, which can cause him to get sacked frequently at the pro-level. However, the Eagles coaching staff has shown that they can make the most out of quarterbacks. Foles should provide a better backup than Vince Young, Mike Kafka, and Trent Edwards. Seeing how often Michael Vick is injured, that may make Foles a better pick than anyone could've imagined.
Grade for this pick - C
Eagles selected Brandon Boykin, CB, Georgia, 123rd overall (from Packers)
Boykin is an amazing athlete. Boykin also played in the SEC, which is arguably the best conference in the NCAA and has the best defenses by far. Boykin's major downfalls are his size(he is only 5'9) and he is a poor tackler. However, he can make up for his poor tackling with his play making ability. Another upside to Boykin is that he played slot receiver some plays at Georgia and returned kicks. This should add Boykin to the Eagles plethora of multi-threat players.
Grade for this pick - B
Eagles selected Dennis Kelly, OT, Purdue, 153rd overall
This is easily the Eagle's worst pick of the draft. Kelly is pretty much an unknown prospect. At Purdue's pro-day, he didn't standout at all really and was average at best. Why the Eagles would select a player like this in the 5th round when there was players like George Lloka, Tommy Streeter, Billy Winn, Emmanuel Acho, Alfonzo Dennard(can't believe he went in the seventh), and Chris Polk still available.
Grade for this pick - F
Eagles selected Marvin McNutt, WR, Iowa, 194th overall (from Broncos)
The Eagles made a good investment in this pick. McNutt is a big, strong receiver. He also has good hands. McNutt has several technique problems, but they can be fixed by good coaching. If these problems are fixed, McNutt could be an elite number two receiver, but would probably be put into a slot position or only used in 4 wideout situations.
Grade for this pick - B
Eagles selected Brandon Washington, G, Miami, 200th overall (from Patriots)
Wow! This guy was a freak in college. Washington has very good speed for a OL and understands blocking assignments very well. He also has pretty good size and strength. If given time to develop and transition to the pro-level, Washington should become an all-pro G. Not to mention, he never missed a game and even filled in at RT sometimes.
Grade for this pick - B
Eagles selected Bryce Brown, RB, Kansas St., 229th overall (from Falcons)
This pick is as to be expected of 7th round picks, nothing special. Brown has good size, but other than that, he is nothing too special. His speed is average, his ability to utilize blocks is average at best, and isn't much of a threat outside the hashes. However, Brown should provide a power back should the Eagles find themselves in 3rd and short situations.
Grade for this pick - D+
Overall Grade - B
The Eagles selected many players who should become good to very good pros. The obvious standout was Fletcher Cox, he should be a great DT for the Eagles and be a front-runner for Defensive Rookie of the Year. The most lackluster pick was easily Dennis Kelly, he is player who really doesn't have much to offer and would've likely went undrafted if not picked by the Eagles. The pick most likely to surprise most is Marvin McNutt, he has extreme athleticism. The only thing holding McNutt back is his technique issues, should they get fixed, he will be a force. Overall, the Eagles had one of the best drafts out of every team, if not the best. The Eagles filled every whole on their team but safety, which may be tended to later. Regardless, the Eagles should have incredible depth now at positions like WR, RB, DE, G, and CB. I predict the Eagles to rise from their ashes, and be a stronger force than ever. Can you say dream team...... what? Too soon?
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Grade: A-
Analysis: The Eagles made a wise trade to move up from No. 15 to No. 12 to nab Cox, one of the more versatile defensive linemen in the draft and a guy who automatically improves the run defense. Kendricks and Curry were taken with the same mission in mind after the Eagles defense was basically a running gag throughout the 2011 season. After dealing with those needs, the Eagles then picked up a pair of great values in Foles and Boykin. Foles has all the physical tools to be a terrific player and is going to a coach in Andy Reid who can harness those gifts. Foles should be ready to either take over for Michael Vick when Vick is done or be a good piece of trade bait in the future. Like Foles, Boykin has a lot of tools at a premium position.
Nice roundup. It does sound like Football Nation made up their review on Bryce Brown.
QuoteEagles selected Vinny Curry, DE, Marshall, 59th overall (from Packers)
I was scratching my head at first to this pick, the Eagles didn't need a DE, especially not this early. However, after thinking about it, I realized Curry has potential to be a top 10 pass rusher. However, Curry isn't great at stopping the run, but he is good at getting around OTs. I suspect Curry will sit behind Trent Cole and Jason Babin this year, meaning we'll probably only see him as a special steamer this year.
This doesn't make much sense. It's obvious that the way the Eagles rotate the ends in particular, he'll get chances. Doesn't say much for the credibility of the source.
Wtf is a special steamer?
Like you don't know. Nice cover.
kiper put out his best value picks of the draft...does three offensive and three diefensive for each round
three eagle picks made it
boykin in the 4th.....wash and mcnutty in the 6th
Quote from: Zanshin on April 30, 2012, 09:31:35 AM
I was scratching my head at first to this pick, the Eagles didn't need a DE, especially not this early. However, after thinking about it, I realized Curry has potential to be a top 10 pass rusher.
at first i was like...i don't like this pick...then i was like...hey, this dude could be great.
:-D
QuoteBoykin is an amazing athlete. Boykin also played in the SEC, which is arguably the best conference in the NCAA and has the best defenses by far.
This Football Nation writer is 16 years old, at most.
Quote from: QB Eagles on April 30, 2012, 06:59:46 PM
QuoteBoykin is an amazing athlete. Boykin also played in the SEC, which is arguably the best conference in the NCAA and has the best defenses by far.
This Football Nation writer is 16 years old, at most.
Quote from: ice grillin you on April 28, 2012, 01:33:40 PM
you cant really go wrong taking an athlete from the SEC
Totally proved him wrong there.
who is adam caplan
he sounds like someone i took bar mitzvah lessons with
Quote from: phattymatty on April 30, 2012, 11:04:00 AM
Quote from: Zanshin on April 30, 2012, 09:31:35 AM
I was scratching my head at first to this pick, the Eagles didn't need a DE, especially not this early. However, after thinking about it, I realized Curry has potential to be a top 10 pass rusher.
at first i was like...i don't like this pick...then i was like...hey, this dude could be great.
Let the record show that I didn't spew that nonsense, but rather quoted someone who did. I'd rather take credit for my own inevitable nonsense.
The record is irrelevant. You'll be known as the hive wants to know you, facts be damned.
There's only, like, 10 bees. It's more like a lonely honeycomb stuck under a deck table than an actual hive.
How awesome was Honeycomb cereal? Do they even make that anymore?
Yeah yeah yeah.
Hey, that's the charm, such as it is.
i was just reading that football nation breakdown and its so bizarre...at time the cat is all over it and right on point then youll come across the most bizarrze non sensical break down
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Eagles selected Marvin McNutt, WR, Iowa, 194th overall (from Broncos)
McNutt could be an elite number two receiver, but would probably be only used in 4 wideout situations.
Grade for this pick - B
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Eagles selected Brandon Washington, G, Miami, 200th overall (from Patriots)
Wow! This guy was a freak in college. Washington should become an all-pro G.
Grade for this pick - B
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Eagles selected Bryce Brown, RB, Kansas St., 229th overall (from Falcons)
This pick is as to be expected of 7th round picks. Brown should provide a power back should the Eagles find themselves in 3rd and short situations.
Grade for this pick - D+
More nonsense.
he also says that kelley was a terrible pick and that they could have instead gotten chris polk at that point in the draft
So the 194th overall pick could become an elite receiver, but the grade is a B.
The 200th overall pick should be an all pro guard and the grade is a B.
The 229th pick should/could address an area the Eagles struggled and the grade is a D+
I don't even understand how a 7th round pick could get a bad grade? I mean, at that point the floor has got to be a C and then if you get someone like say Burfect who just fell through the entire draft, then you grade up accordingly. Otherwise, 7th round picks are just meh picks. Usually not a reason to get excited or pissed off about.
i get your point but somewhat disagree...you can get an F in the 7th round...kelley is an F no matter what for example
and i totally agree on a perfict in a spot like that being the kind of player you take...which makes the pick of bryce brown (who is a rb version of perfect) at worst a B and you can make an argument thats its an A...
D+ is retarded
Agreed....obviously if you use a draft pick, even a 7th rounder, on a player who was on no one's draft board or on a position that's already got a lot of depth and you still have other needs, then yeah....it can get a bad grade. But to me, the 7th round (maybe even the 6th) is where you're just trying to find a diamond in the rough more than anything else. It's very rare that people look back at a draft 5 years later and say "Man, they really blew it in the 6th or 7th round." Obviously Tom Brady is the exception. But that just emphasizes my point really which is that the last round of the draft is usually more irrelevant than not and grading it in anyway is pretty god damn pointless. But not quite as pointless as this conversation about it.
I can only assume those grades are given based on their chance to contribute, not on the value of the pick.
except he gave a future all pro a B
a future short yardage power back a D+
and an elite number 2 wr a B
Drafted late with a legitimate potential to be an elite anything has to be an A. If not, don't use the word elite.
Better yet, don't obsess over internet hungry hungry hippos and their draft rankings or language utilization.
What the hell else are we going to do? Wait for the next FA signing?
Apparently Yeremiah Bell IS NOT at the NovaCare Complex.
Quote from: General_Failure on May 01, 2012, 01:15:58 PM
What the hell else are we going to do?
obsess over each others stellar language utilization some more