Jason Cole of Yahoo sports is saying the Eagles are interested in Laron Landry...thoughts?
I'd be okay with Landry, not his biggest fan but he's an upgrade so it's hard not to be interested.
For some reason I think the Eagles wind up with Tulloch.
Landry is damaged goods out of the gate. He won't be ready to start the season, and may need a further surgery on his Achilles. Washington has no interest in retaining the dude, and they have dick at the position. I'll pass. If they go big with a an injury guy - give me Mario Williams.
I'd be okay with Tulloch. Saw red last offseason when they didn't even sniff around the dude. Lofton would be good too.
Yeah, he's a f-in stud in the box and a guy I would want to go balls out for multi year deal if he was healthy but he's not-- with an increased likelihood he won't be this year as well until he fixes his achilles.
That said, he's probably on a 1 year prove it deal anyway so throw a deal out there, see if it sticks, get him to camp and see if he makes it through.
I'd be ok with him, but the health is an issue like others have mentioned. He went and got super jacked this off-season. Have you seen the pics of him?
I would love Tulloch or Lofton.
I was thinking about Mario Williams coming here the other day. That would be an impressive signing.
Lofton, yes.
landry has been freakishly jacked since college.
If Landry ever figures out how to stay healthy he'll be a player.
But really, do we want taterskins castoffs now?
Quote from: Rome on March 12, 2012, 01:15:04 PM
If Landry ever figures out how to stay healthy he'll be a player.
But really, do we want taterskins castoffs now?
Carlos Rogers > Assy
Quote from: Rome on March 12, 2012, 01:15:04 PM
If Landry ever figures out how to stay healthy he'll be a player.
But really, do we want taterskins castoffs now?
hes terrible in pass coverage...so bad at turning....hed be an upgrade at ss obviously but im not all that interested in him even if healthy
With the way he has bulked up he will probably be even worse in pass coverage. I would be surprised if he signed with the Eagles.
Hopefully they make a run at Lofton.
Have we run the "moved to linebacker" joke into the ground yet, or can we give it another go here?
Sheil Kapedia suggested moving Graham inside to DT in the Inky this morning.
I actually laughed out loud when I read it.
Quote from: General_Failure on March 12, 2012, 02:39:34 PM
Have we run the "moved to linebacker" joke into the ground yet, or can we give it another go here?
We have many on here, including myself, that believe in re-animation...so yes, let's do it!
A zombie joke.
Lofton. That would be awesome.
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The #Eagles tendered DT Antonio Dixon, RFA, at a 2d round level. Dixon will earn $1.927 mil once he signs tender.
Desean is expected to sign his Franchise tender tomorrow.
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Pete Prisco: Dan Connor to Eagles "Will Be Done"
lol if this is their primary LB acquisition
ok if this is the beginning of a full scale renovation of the position
(http://ohbriggsy.files.wordpress.com/2010/03/dans-best-outfit.jpg)
Look test?
i havent seen him in a couple years but hes def ok on that front.....he was a little suspect at penn state when he rocked the stupid neck cup...but he lost that when he got to the nfl
look test - solid B
king disputing the prisco report.....saying they are going in a different direction
my guess is one of them will be correct.
how can i get one of their jobs?
Fail miserably at every other professional endeavor.
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Pete Prisco: Dan Connor to Eagles "Will Be Done"
lol if this is their primary LB acquisition
ok if this is the beginning of a full scale renovation of the position
Exactly. Connor is okay and I could live with him but if he's the only upgrade at LB then it's not enough.
Quote from: SD on March 12, 2012, 10:35:03 PM
The #Eagles tendered DT Antonio Dixon, RFA, at a 2d round level. Dixon will earn $1.927 mil once he signs tender.
Prior to getting hurt he was their best DT. Happy they kept him.
i want them to keep Landri too, he played well.
they can't sign Landri or Mathis until 4pm today though
Landri, Mathis and Tulloch are on my wish list. With Landri and Dixon back in the fold the Dline would be shaping up pretty well. Big bonus if Graham could contribute. Surprised they haven't gotten Patterson to renegotiate down some of his $4 million this year. Howie should have been at Patterson's bedside pen in hand while he was still coming out of anesthesia from his brain surgery. Timing is everything.
their tackles stink....its no different than what they do at DE.....they get a deep rotation of average to good players but never have a great player
its sad when you have to pump up farging derek landri or antonio dixon
gimme po po in the draft
yeah that might be the saddest "wish list" Ive ever seen.
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The Eagles officially announced a four-year contract extension for defensive end Trent Cole that lasts through the 2017 season.
News of Cole's new deal broke on Tuesday, not long after the Eagles had already extended another long-time Eagle in tackle Todd Herremans. But some minor details needed to be fleshed out before the team could confirm the contract.
The exact terms of the extension were not immediately known.
"We are excited to be able to sign Trent to a new contract," Eagles coach Andy Reid said. "Trent plays the game with a level of tenacity that's hard to replicate. He's one of the premier defensive ends in the league. We have always said that when you watch the tape of him, it's hard to tell the difference between his first play and his last play.
"He has an unbelievable motor that does not stop. And as good as he is rushing the passer, he is equally as good against the run. His energy is contagious on the field."
Yeah, but athletic/black with a good motor is better than dopey/white with a good motor. Unless your name is Jared Allen.
truth
Eagles Trade Winston Justice and a 6th to the Colts for their 6th
Hahaha, what?
basically Winston Justice's value was moving up 15 spots in the 6th round
guaranteed banner inc says its really like getting an extra 5th
Quote from: ice grillin you on March 14, 2012, 11:27:49 AM
guaranteed banner inc says its really like getting an extra 5th
It's really like losing a 2nd round pick in 2006 but we knew that years ago.
He was going to be cut for cap room anyway.
The cap is a figment of your imagination.
I just pictured Roseman slamming the phone down and high fiving the boys after that stellar negotiation.
Sweat pouring off his brow, some terrified intern calling his girlfriend while sobbing and telling her everything's going to be alright.
i wonder what dan leone thinks about this move
Quote from: ice grillin you on March 14, 2012, 09:48:06 AM
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The Eagles officially announced a four-year contract extension for defensive end Trent Cole that lasts through the 2017 season.
News of Cole's new deal broke on Tuesday, not long after the Eagles had already extended another long-time Eagle in tackle Todd Herremans. But some minor details needed to be fleshed out before the team could confirm the contract.
The exact terms of the extension were not immediately known.
"We are excited to be able to sign Trent to a new contract," Eagles coach Andy Reid said. "Trent plays the game with a level of tenacity that's hard to replicate. He's one of the premier defensive ends in the league. We have always said that when you watch the tape of him, it's hard to tell the difference between his first play and his last play.
"He has an unbelievable motor that does not stop. And as good as he is rushing the passer, he is equally as good against the run. His energy is contagious on the field."
4/$53M/$15M guaranteed
to summarize so far:
offense:
signed Desean Jackson
Herremens extended
Jamaal Jackson cut
Winston Justice traded (moved up 16 picks in 6th round)
defense:
tendered Dixon at 2nd round level
extended Cole
what am I missing anything? you know how nice it is to have all the information in one place
Summary:
Added:
- No one.
Subtracted:
- No one anyone will miss.
desean signed
Oh, it wasn't just the franchise tag?
N/M - Wow.
5/51
Could be 5/151 and I'd be cool. Pimp!
5 years, $51 million
It'll be tough, but if we all pull together I'm sure we can come up with a way to make this a negative.
Quote from: General_Failure on March 14, 2012, 04:35:42 PM
It'll be tough, but if we all pull together I'm sure we can come up with a way to make this a negative.
LaCanfora said it's only $48.5 million. That's $500k less than the contact TO signed, one year before holding out because of his contract. And they both use Rosenpenis, I think.
$10M signing bonus
$750K base salary + $250K workout bonus this year
$6.75M base ($4M guaranteed, $2.75M more only if injured) + $250K workout bonus in 2013
So in other words it's a one-year deal.
Supposedly they are working on Shady right now too. :yay
cool--I love the focus on LB
In fairness it isn't like the rest of the league is exactly scooping up all the LBs either.
Gerald McCoy @Geraldini93
Sorry #bucnation I tried but it looks like @CurtisLofton50 is an Eagle. Business is business he did what was best for him. Understandable.
FWIW
Gerald McCoy is tweeting that he tried to lure Curtis Lofton to the Bucs but he is an Eagle. TFWIW
Apparently it was BS....farg!
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Quote from: General_Failure on March 14, 2012, 04:35:42 PM
It'll be tough, but if we all pull together I'm sure we can come up with a way to make this a negative.
LaCanfora said it's only $48.5 million. That's $500k less than the contact TO signed, one year before holding out because of his contract. And they both use Rosenpenis, I think.
I think the main difference is that Rosenpuke negotiated this contract for DJax. TO was using a different agent who negotiated his 7yr/$49mil deal with the Eagles. Then he fired him after 04 and hired Rosenpenis, probably because he told TO that he'd get him a sweeter deal.
I farging hate twitter so much
Stupid question: Can the Eagles apply the Franchise tag to Mathis now that Jackson has signed?
Not should they, but could they?
edit: clarity
the deadline was this past monday to apply the tag
Mike Gibson, P.E.
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Quote from: FastFreddie on March 14, 2012, 04:36:47 PM
Quote from: General_Failure on March 14, 2012, 04:35:42 PM
It'll be tough, but if we all pull together I'm sure we can come up with a way to make this a negative.
LaCanfora said it's only $48.5 million. That's $500k less than the contact TO signed, one year before holding out because of his contract. And they both use Rosenpenis, I think.
I think the main difference is that Rosenpuke negotiated this contract for DJax. TO was using a different agent who negotiated his 7yr/$49mil deal with the Eagles. Then he fired him after 04 and hired Rosenpenis, probably because he told TO that he'd get him a sweeter deal.
Dumbass.
im probably way off but this is what it looks like happend
howie didnt wanna sign pimp at all
andy was all in on him long term
pimp just wants to get paid
so they all came to agreement
howie gets pimp for next season with the safety valve of being able to cut him after one season with little to no penalty if things go very wrong...whether that may be another concussion or attitude issues
pimp gets two million more than the FT amount which is already top 5 wr money plus the opportunity of big long term money
andy gets a promise from howie that if pimp performs he has his man for the long haul
Or they've wanted to sign him all along, but didn't want to overpay and end up shortchanging the rest of the team. After an underperforming season, and with similar receivers already signed, it was patently obvious to all parties exactly how much he was worth, and there wasn't much left to argue over anymore.
A year ago people on this board would have said that there are no similar receivers in the league and that therefore he should be given as much money as the team has, but that's a dumb way to run a team. His productivity is finite like everyone else's.
The whole conversation is retarded. It's not about whether they wanted to sign him or not, it's about at what price they were willing to sign him. For vet minimum I'm sure the whole front office would love to have him back, and for Andre Johnson money I'm sure Reid would personally help DeSean pack up his things.
its pretty much known andy wanted him signed and howie did not...to what extent howies opposition was isnt clear...but they were definitely at odds thats much is known
the way the deal is written says to me all three sides of the equation....banner inc - andy - rosenhaus all came to a deal that makes everyone mostly happy
Quote from: ice grillin you on March 14, 2012, 07:52:38 PM
its pretty much known andy wanted him signed and howie did not...
Is there actual evidence of that, or is that just something that fits in with the igy worldview of FO intrigue? Not saying you're wrong, but I don't really remember seeing so much as an unsourced rumor of that, just message board speculation. In fact the only confirmed facts I've ever seen about Roseman are that he's a pencil-pusher and a Jew.
It's hard to know what to think of this whole prolonged negotiation because so little ever came out to the public. If DJax spent this whole time asking for what he ended up getting, clearly the FO are cocks. If he made ridiculous demands and the Eagles just laughed and left the room until he cooled down and became reasonable, then Jackson would look worse. We have zero way of knowing what happened. I'm just glad he's back with the team, a major contributor has finally gotten his payday, and this shtein won't be hanging over another season.
king...gargano...sheil have all reported it several times....im sure andy is the source...but that doesnt make it any less true...andy and pimp are pretty close and have been since he came in the league....he loves 'the little guy'
i dont think pimp got what he wanted but i also dont think he was asking for a ridiculous amount....and i think if howie had his way he would have traded him this offseason...but andy clearly still has some power
in the end they all met in the middle
He got more than Garcon and less than Vincent Jackson. Based on his performance the last two years he got just about what he was worth.
Bottom line who gives a farg Jackson is an Eagle for the foreseeable future.
Quote from: Rome on March 14, 2012, 08:25:44 PM
He got more than Garcon and less than Vincent Jackson. Based on his performance the last two years he got just about what he was worth.
not even close
garcon 20.5 mil
vj 26 mil
pimp 10 mil
Quote from: Drunkmasterflex on March 14, 2012, 08:25:44 PM
Bottom line who gives a farg Jackson is an Eagle for the foreseeable future.
i agree with you because i think he will play well next year and not get seriously hurt...but if he acts a fool in banner inc's eyes or gets a serious season ending concussion lets say...then hes gone as he is ridiculously cuttable according to the contract
So we're back on the two year plan, but once that flops they could for realsies get rid of Reid and Vick, but also Jackson? McCoy will still be here, right?
Vincent Jackson: 5 Yrs/$55.5M
DeSean Jackson: 5 Yrs/$51M
Pierre Garcon: 5 Yrs/$42.5M
Right in the middle.
And before you start arguing like an infant about guaranteed money the bottom line is if the players all play out the life of the deals, Pimp gets what he's worth right now.
lol at completely dismissing the only "guaranteed" thing in nfl contracts and then saying something else is the "bottom line"
how am i going to even argue that kind of logic
Quotebut if he acts a fool in banner inc's eyes or gets a serious season ending concussion lets say...then hes gone as he is ridiculously cuttable according to the contract
Eagles FO or not that is a completely logical way to run it from business standpoint. As much as I love Desean lets not kid ourselves he is always one big hit away from Christopher Reeve status.
I actually think his antics help this team for the most part....outside of last year of course.
My internet name is hbionic. I am ecstatic that Desean Jackson will be an Eagle for the foreseeable future. Hooray!
Shakedown Howie:
-in constant communication with Evan Mathis
-hinting strongly that a FA linebacker is in the works
DO YOU FEEL THAT? I just farted.
the longer lofton and tulloch go unsigned the more chance the eagles will get one....they either pounce or they wait a while....so to sign one a few days after the start of FA would seem unsual for them as its still a full blown auction at that point which the eagles hate participating in....lets hope they change their FA game up this year
Supposedly the Eagles had a one year offer to sign with the Eagles. He is signing with Dallas because it was a better offer.
Quote from: Drunkmasterflex on March 15, 2012, 04:17:37 PM
Supposedly the Eagles had a one year offer to sign with the Eagles.
that would like double their roster n shtein
The Eagles had a one year offer to sign with the Eagles? Sounds complicated.
Goddammit. IGY beat me to it.
Quote from: ice grillin you on March 15, 2012, 04:19:07 PM
Quote from: Drunkmasterflex on March 15, 2012, 04:17:37 PM
Supposedly the Eagles had a one year offer to sign with the Eagles.
that would like double their roster n shtein
:-D :-D :-D
Hahaha guess thats why I should proof read....I meant Dan Connor.
:-D well thats a first....I will take it.
I blame that post on a lack of alcohol.
I just heard a rumor that's even worse then Twitter. Friend of a friend who claims he works for another team talking about trades. It was funny.
guess when trent cole will be an ex philadelphia eagle
2012 $5.85m
2013 $5.35m
2014 $6.6m
2015 $11.625m
2016 $12.6m
2017 $14m
Quote from: ice grillin you on March 16, 2012, 07:41:21 AM
guess when trent cole will be an ex philadelphia eagle
Depends on if he fathers any children with cancer.
So apparently Baltimore made Mathis an offer, and the Eagles have made one as well.
Mathis is mulling over his options. posted this picture on his Twitter feed last night.
(http://p.twimg.com/AoKARKuCMAE3Z8b.jpg:large)
I don't get the symbolism. Someone explain, please.
well on one side is a Raven, because the team in Baltimore (i call it Bodymore, LOL) is named the Ravens and they have made Evan an offer. The other bird, on the right, is an Eagle and that is symbolic of the Philadelphia Eagles (I call them Iggles, LMAO!). So Evan is trying to decide between the Ravens and the Eagles, and that picture is showing both on a tree.
It's pretty, pretty, pretttttty clever when you think about it
The ironic part of that statue is that the Raven [arguably Poe's best story] was written in Philly.
to me its good vs evil and evil wins
the black bird of death = 1 superbowl in 17 years
and the majestic bird that represents all that is good....freedom liberty justice....has zero championships in the last 51 years
Eskin reporting LaRon Landry is expected to visit with the Eagles next week
Think he'll threaten to put Pimp to sleep again?
Rather see Tom Landry.
Quote from: reese125 on March 17, 2012, 05:25:43 PM
Eskin reporting LaRon Landry is expected to visit with the Eagles next week
As long as they give Landry a thorough physical and only sign him to a 1 or 2 year deal I'm fine with that move. He's not great in coverage but he's an upgrade from Coleman.
I would rather see a drastic upgrade, thanks. Landry isn't that. He's talented but do they really need another physical question mark on defense?
if heathy landry is a big upgrade over coleman
Quote from: ice grillin you on March 18, 2012, 11:08:50 AM
if heathy landry is a big upgrade over coleman
Agreed. I don't even hate Coleman as a back up but he has no business starting.
And Rome, who could they get that's a 'drastic upgrade'? Landy is their best option. I doubt they go safety in the 1st round as there really isn't a player worthy at their pick. I wouldn't mind Mark Barron in the 2nd round but I can't see the Eagles taking a safety with their 2nd round pick 3 years in a row [what a waste of a pick Jarrett was]. So what other options do they have?
He's a gimp right now. He's not getting surgery on his Achilles so that means he's one snap away from being useless.
The sad fact is even with him being a huge injury risk, he's the best option available. That's the pathetic situation they've put themselves in by not drafting a top notch safety when they had the chance.
And I've already said I'm on board with getting him.
PASS on Landry
Dio roots for LAuNDRY.
Quote from: SD on March 18, 2012, 09:55:03 AM
Quote from: reese125 on March 17, 2012, 05:25:43 PM
Eskin reporting LaRon Landry is expected to visit with the Eagles next week
As long as they give Landry a thorough physical and only sign him to a 1 or 2 year deal I'm fine with that move. He's not great in coverage but he's an upgrade from Coleman.
Yep. Just keep Jarrett off the field and I'm good.
Quote from: Feva on March 18, 2012, 03:39:32 PM
Yep. Just keep Jarrett off the field and I'm good.
this
jj is a jjoke
The Eagles are going to sign a LB this week. Remember you heard it here first.
Yeremiah Bell was just released from the Phins
If there was a supposed interest at all like Eskin said with Landry, theres no reason they shouldnt look at Bell. Yes his cover skills have diminished a bit, but hes still awesome in the box and his durability is solid for his age. Eagles need serious help against the run.
I would imagine having Todd Bowles here doesn't hurt either.
I would sign Bell tonight.
He's a pretty good player.
Get.
Quote from: Drunkmasterflex on March 19, 2012, 08:46:06 PM
I would imagine having Todd Bowles here doesn't hurt either.
yes sir
bell is 34....maybe a 1 year deal....but really no thanks
I wouldn't mind Bell as a stopgap until they found someone who can take over. At least he can play football which is more than I can say of Coleman and Jarett. One or two years max
you know what would be a novel idea?
drafting a young safety who can actually play and be here for the next five-ten years
the other novel idea would be to get someone to show those scrubs back there how to farging tackle and play the position.
of course it would be a 1 year deal at that age
yeremiah bell is not teaching anyone anything...hes 34 couldnt even get on the field for the first four years of his career and has been a decent player on horrible teams his whole career...when did this guy become all nfl to the point where hes going to turn zesty players in good ones
at best hes a moderate upgrade...at worst hes an old man whose level of play has never been great to begin with and is now ready to fall off a cliff
ha--youre right veterans suck and it would be horrendous to have a player back there that can actually tackle and play the box the right way. if last year was all in for the eagles then this year must be all in, so you get a guy that knows the position and can give it a boost.
who cares what he did the first 4 years of his career but you--not to mention he hurt his achilles back then anyway.
ray lewis or brian dawkins veteran = good
yeremiah bell veteran = meaningless
hes basically quinton mikell
And Quinton Mikell would be an upgrade over the dopes they have now.
im not disagreeing with that i just dont really see the point of signing an old safety who isnt that good anyway and is only going to deteriorate from here forward...im not against it and any upgrade is fine...but id much rather have a young guy in the draft (go get mark barron)...of course they are in the position where they have to go out and get a yeremiah bell precisely because they cant draft
Quote from: SD on March 19, 2012, 06:28:11 AM
The Eagles are going to sign a LB this week. Remember you heard it here first.
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lol...I thought it would be Tulloch. Lofton/Hawthorne I guess...Fletcher as a last resort.
Quote from: SunMo on March 20, 2012, 05:39:20 PM
Quote from: SD on March 19, 2012, 06:28:11 AM
The Eagles are going to sign a LB this week. Remember you heard it here first.
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ha
According to John McClain the Texans are trading Demeco Ryans to the Eagles contingent of him passing a physical.
:yay
Technically they aren't signing him if it's a trade. But anyway, surprising since he is signed until 2016 and will make around $6.5 million a year. I wonder if somebody did this when Joe and Howie went out for lunch.
I assume a new deal will get done some time after they check for brain damage. They didn't fall for that trick last time, no need to let their guard down now.
Quote from: SunMo on March 20, 2012, 05:39:20 PM
Quote from: SD on March 19, 2012, 06:28:11 AM
The Eagles are going to sign a LB this week. Remember you heard it here first.
(http://blog-cdn.aweber-static.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/05/cross-out-days.png)
the timing of this could have not been better
King Dunlap re-signed to a one year deal.
I'm glad they are getting someone in there for depth anyway, and Dunlop can hold the fort for a couple of games if needed at a number of positions. I was just noticing that although he doesn't miss a lot of games, 2006 was the only season Peters played a full season.
The Wilmington News Journal is "hearing" the Eagles re-signed OT King Dunlap because LT Jason Peters "may have an injury."
Beat writer Geoff Mosher hears it's an Achilles injury, but he's still working to confirm the news and further details with his sources. Peters was arguably the NFL's premier left tackle in 2011. Check back later for an update on his status.
- Rotoworld
interesting, hopefully it's not true
Who would move over and play left tackle? If they plop Dunlap in there, Vicks completion percentage drops even more trying to get it over his 6-9 ass.
it's official, ruptured achilles
It happened on March 27th. Surgery scheduled for Tuesday, April 2nd. 9-12 month rehab.
That really sucks. They should have kept Justice so they could use him at RT then switch Herremans to LT. Dunlap is not a starting caliber LT in this league.
not that they were going to the superbowl with him but he was the one player they literally couldnt lose
het guess what Andy's drafting 1st pick?
get em next year
Motherfarger.
Can't catch a farging break...
I would move Herremans to LT and draft a guy for RT in the second or third round.
Beautiful.
Go sign Demetrius Bell or Kareem McKenzie.
I think Fireman played LT at Baylor while he was there...just throwing that option out there.
Quote from: Drunkmasterflex on March 30, 2012, 01:27:22 PM
I would move Herremans to LT and draft a guy for RT in the second or third round.
RT is more important because it's Vick's blindside
Quote from: SunMo on March 30, 2012, 01:31:32 PM
Quote from: Drunkmasterflex on March 30, 2012, 01:27:22 PM
I would move Herremans to LT and draft a guy for RT in the second or third round.
RT is more important because it's Vick's blindside
Yes but typically the best pass rusher is lined up at RE. If protecting Vick's blindside was more important than the LT position itself Peters would have been moved there consodering he started as a RT.
mclane on twitter said its a 4-6 month recovery. i dont believe him but that puts a hobbled jason peters possibly back on the field by midseason.
hooray?
What the farg? How did this injury happen?
Quote from: SunMo on March 30, 2012, 01:31:32 PM
Quote from: Drunkmasterflex on March 30, 2012, 01:27:22 PM
I would move Herremans to LT and draft a guy for RT in the second or third round.
RT is more important because it's Vick's blindside
Quote from: Drunkmasterflex on March 30, 2012, 01:37:12 PM
Quote from: SunMo on March 30, 2012, 01:31:32 PM
Quote from: Drunkmasterflex on March 30, 2012, 01:27:22 PM
I would move Herremans to LT and draft a guy for RT in the second or third round.
RT is more important because it's Vick's blindside
Yes but typically the best pass rusher is lined up at RE. If protecting Vick's blindside was more important than the LT position itself Peters would have been moved there consodering he started as a RT.
this aint about vick thats small picture stuff...this is about finding your LT for the next ten years...i dont know the history of 31 year old offesnive tackles coming back from achillie explosions but im betting the odds arent very good
if they have reiff or adams rated that high then go get one of them...if jp comes back full strength then consider it an embarrassment of riches...but your mindset here has to be big picture as in who is our future left tackle
Thats all well and good but there isn't exactly an abundance of LTs in this years draft.
Mike Adams is weak and Reiff has short arms. I would probably pass on both.
like i said if they dont have them rated highly then you pass...but moving herremans here and this guy there or lets sign this guy...but no that wont work because vicks a left handed dwarf is all meaningless as they werent going anywhere this year with jp...
the important thing is to determine who you can get to fill that most important position long after vick is gone...or if you can even get that person in the near future
marcus mcneill
demetrius bell
names to keep in mind
Bell just had surgery for a torn meniscus in Jan
McNeil had 2 knee surgeries last off season and a neck injury that landed him on injured reserve last year.
I'll keep them in mind.
Quote from: ice grillin you on March 30, 2012, 02:00:44 PM
like i said if they dont have them rated highly then you pass...but moving herremans here and this guy there or lets sign this guy...but no that wont work because vicks a left handed dwarf is all meaningless as they werent going anywhere this year with jp...
the important thing is to determine who you can get to fill that most important position long after vick is gone...or if you can even get that person in the near future
They have to whatever gives them the best opportunity to win now. If the draft is weak at LT how do you get a guy for the future? Its not like teams trade premiere LTs.
Quote from: MDS on March 30, 2012, 02:42:20 PM
marcus mcneill
demetrius bell
names to keep in mind
FWIW.....Eskin is reporting Bell will be in this weekend for a visit.
Quote from: Drunkmasterflex on March 30, 2012, 03:38:30 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on March 30, 2012, 02:00:44 PM
like i said if they dont have them rated highly then you pass...but moving herremans here and this guy there or lets sign this guy...but no that wont work because vicks a left handed dwarf is all meaningless as they werent going anywhere this year with jp...
the important thing is to determine who you can get to fill that most important position long after vick is gone...or if you can even get that person in the near future
They have to whatever gives them the best opportunity to win now. If the draft is weak at LT how do you get a guy for the future? Its not like teams trade premiere LTs.
exactly. whoever they get at this point is purely stop gap--with that person being mediocre at best or carted off the field 6 games in.
Quote from: reese125 on March 30, 2012, 02:57:33 PM
Bell just had surgery for a torn meniscus in Jan
McNeil had 2 knee surgeries last off season and a neck injury that landed him on injured reserve last year.
I'll keep them in mind.
Torn meniscus has a relatively quick recovery to it. It's probably the least worrisome knee surgery you can have. It's bascially a shock absorber, so it's got almost nothing to do with the stability of the knee like your ACL or MCL. So if Bell had surgery in Jan, I'd be surprised if he isn't more than 80% recovered.
Demetrius Bell would be nice.
Watch them trade up for Kalil if he slips to the 7-8 range.
Havas dropped "our LT" earlier. Busted!!
The LT position is overrated with a left-handed QB.
Or at least that's what I keep telling myself.
Problem is, the QB is likely to be right handed after 2012.
you mean during 2012
Matt Leinart is available.
And just last week they could have gotten Tebow straight up for Asante.
Quote from: MDS on March 30, 2012, 02:42:20 PM
marcus mcneill
demetrius bell
names to keep in mind
I have no problem with signing either or both of these guys. They're not Jason Peters but they're better options than King Dunlap.
FYI- Demetrius Bell's father is Karl Malone.
dayam karl liked em big
Bell coming for visit, and Eagles have "reached out" to McNeil's agent.
i cant imagine mcneill has a whole lot left...bell seems like the safer play
Quote from: FastFreddie on March 30, 2012, 05:10:04 PM
The LT position is overrated with a left-handed QB.
Or at least that's what I keep telling myself.
keep hope alive....you drunk phreak reese and the rest of the homers can keep thinking about horrible LT replacements for this upcoming 2012 superbowl drive
Quote from: Feva on March 30, 2012, 05:27:30 PM
Problem is, the QB is likely to be right handed after 2012.
give it up feva....you just dont get it...vick is winning a superbowl in 2013 as long as he eagles bring in a FA left tackle
If you've already given up hope, can the rest of us divvy up your tickets? Not the pre-season; that's horse shtein.
Cynicism is strong with this one.