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Title: Fantasy Football Advice Thread
Post by: PhillyPhanInDC on August 20, 2007, 10:01:45 AM
Okay, we had our draft yesterday, early, we usually do it on Labor Day weekend, but that didn't work out. You care.

I was the sixth pick in a ten team league with each TD being 6 points, and it's a points per reception league. Start 1 QB, 2 RB, 3 Rec, 1 PK, 1 DEF. There were 16 rounds. This is my team:

QB Manning, Peyton
QB Delhomme, Jake
QB Cutler, Jay

RB Johnson, Larry
RB Jones-Drew, Maurice
RB Portis, Clinton
RB Norwood, Jerious
RB Washington, Leon

WR Edwards, Braylon
WR Williams, Demetrius
WR Johnson, Calvin
TE Gates, Antonio
TE Shockey, Jeremy
TE Davis, Vernon

PK Stover, Matt

TDEF Bears, Chicago

I'm thinking I'd like to add another running back that has a better chance to have a better than expected year, maybe dump Leon Washington or Vernon Davis for him. The guys that jump out on the free agent board are Chris Brown, LenDale White, Marcel Shipp, and Anthony Thomas. Some guy drafted Chris Henry from the Titans, he's had a strong preseason, but will he be the full time back this year?
Title: Re: Fantasy Football Advice Thread
Post by: ice grillin you on August 20, 2007, 10:27:59 AM
how the farg did you get manning AND those top three running backs...did you slip crack rocks into everyones beers before you started

your wr's are kinda weak but they are more than made up for by the backfield...jesus and i just noticed you got gates


btw the team that picked #2...what were his first three players
Title: Re: Fantasy Football Advice Thread
Post by: PhillyPhanInDC on August 20, 2007, 10:55:17 AM
It's hard for me to remember, I don't have the draft sheet in front of me, but it basically went like this:

Johnson fell to me at six, Jones-Drew second round, Manning third (was really shocked he dropped that far), and after that it gets hazy. I'll have to go back and look....Gates didn't really slip, we just don't have a roster spot for TE's, they get lumped into the reciever category, so normally a gaggle of WRs go ahead of guys like Gates and Shockey. I think I took Gates in the fourth....
Title: Re: Fantasy Football Advice Thread
Post by: ice grillin you on August 20, 2007, 10:58:57 AM
oh ok that makes a little more sense...i thought gates was your TE

ive never seen a league where manning didnt go first round....much less go in the third
Title: Re: Fantasy Football Advice Thread
Post by: PhillyPhanInDC on August 20, 2007, 11:32:27 AM
He normally doesn't go in the first, early second. Points per reception leagues change when WRs and RBs get picked quite a bit. This year was pretty strange, it was really RB heavy in the first two rounds. IGs, here are the first four rounds, I bolded the guy who picked second.

Quote
Pick   Player   Team   Selected By
01.01   LaDainian Tomlinson   SD/7   Dim/Olympiakos
01.02   Steven Jackson   StL/9   John T./Half A Chance
01.03   Frank Gore   SF/6   Steve/Big Red Machine
01.04   Shaun Alexander   Sea/8   Greg/Free Willie
01.05   Brian Westbrook   Phi/5   Rocco/The Fun Ghouls
01.06   Larry Johnson   KC/8   Me/Cunning Stunts
01.07   Reggie Bush   NO/4   John L./Mad Hatters
01.08   Willie Parker   Pit/6   Tony/Sloppy Seconds
01.09   Joseph Addai   Ind/6   Caleb/Blue Collar
01.10   Rudi Johnson   Cin/5   Jeff/Testy Icicles
02.01   Torry Holt   StL/9   Jeff/Testy Icicles
02.02   Laurence Maroney   NE/10   Caleb/Blue Collar
02.03   Willis McGahee   Bal/8   Tony/Sloppy Seconds
02.04   Travis Henry   Den/6   John L./Mad Hatters
02.05   Maurice Jones-Drew   Jac/4   Me/Cunning Stunts
02.06   Edgerrin James   Ari/8   Rocco/The Fun Ghouls
02.07   Ronnie Brown   Mia/9   Greg/Free Willie
02.08   Chad Johnson   Cin/5   Steve/Big Red Machine
02.09   Thomas Jones   NYJ/10   John T./Half A Chance
02.10   Steve Smith   Car/7   Dim/Olympiakos
03.01   Marvin Harrison   Ind/6   Dim/Olympiakos
03.02   Terrell Owens   Dal/8   John T./Half A Chance
03.03   Lee Evans   Buf/6   Steve/Big Red Machine
03.04   Larry Fitzgerald   Ari/8   Greg/Free Willie
03.05   Donald Driver   GB/7   Rocco/The Fun Ghouls
03.06   Peyton Manning   Ind/6   Me/Cunning Stunts
03.07   Roy Williams   Det/6   John L./Mad Hatters
03.08   Reggie Wayne   Ind/6   Tony/Sloppy Seconds
03.09   Andre Johnson   Hou/10   Caleb/Blue Collar
03.10   T.J. Houshmandzadeh   Cin/5   Jeff/Testy Icicles
04.01   Cedric Benson   Chi/9   Jeff/Testy Icicles
04.02   Anquan Boldin   Ari/8   Caleb/Blue Collar
04.03   Marques Colston   NO/4   Tony/Sloppy Seconds
04.04   Javon Walker   Den/6   John L./Mad Hatters
04.05   Clinton Portis   Was/4   Me/Cunning Stunts
04.06   Plaxico Burress   NYG/9   Rocco/The Fun Ghouls
04.07   Randy Moss   NE/10   Greg/Free Willie
04.08   Marshawn Lynch   Buf/6   Steve/Big Red Machine
04.09   Carson Palmer   Cin/5   John T./Half A Chance
04.10   Brandon Jacobs   NYG/9   Dim/Olympiakos
Title: Re: Fantasy Football Advice Thread
Post by: ice grillin you on August 20, 2007, 01:52:52 PM
yeah our league is 1 pt per reception and theres always a huge run of rb's in the first two rds...manning is usually the one guy that breaks that up

jackson
jones
TO

is what the number two guy in your league got...TO seems to be the popular pick at 22 there...ive looked at a ton of mocks to see what i can expect to get at the 19th and 22nd picks and he is consistenly in there
Title: Re: Fantasy Football Advice Thread
Post by: PhillyPhanInDC on August 20, 2007, 02:08:03 PM
If I were him, I would have gone 1. Jackson, 2. Manning/Steve Smith, 3.Lynch/Jacobs

I didn't have Thomas Jones rated so highly, maybe around 22-26th overall. I think he reached for him because he needed another RB and felt the drop off was pretty great after that.
Title: Re: Fantasy Football Advice Thread
Post by: ice grillin you on August 20, 2007, 02:11:35 PM
I think he reached for him because he needed another RB and felt the drop off was pretty great after that

thats EXACTLY what im worried about at 19 or 22...being suckered in at a rb reach because by the time your next pick comes around youre looking at brandon jacobs or someone likethat as your #2 back...i like how john t got palmer in the 4th though
Title: Re: Fantasy Football Advice Thread
Post by: PhillyPhanInDC on August 20, 2007, 02:20:34 PM
Palmer slipped for sure. See how it goes though, some people get so locked into having to draft a certain position, they don't even notice great players available to them when they draft.

You're going to land Steven Jackson with your first pick, so you can cobble a RB2 together with a guy like Jacobs, Benson, Lynch, and some guys that fall later. Play the matchups at that point. Anyone who is playing against an L.T. or a Jackson has to make up so many points - L.T. and Jackson can and do put up 25+ on a week to week basis - with a guy like that you aren't so locked into need a stud RB2 like another team. Go back to last year and see what Jackson and L.T. did on an average week if you can. It's sick.
Title: Re: Fantasy Football Advice Thread
Post by: MDS on August 23, 2007, 01:17:12 AM
tell me i suck, 6th pick in 10 team league:

1. addai
2. harrison
3. evans
4. bulger
5. deuce
6. heap
7. branch
ne defense
rackers
Title: Re: Fantasy Football Advice Thread
Post by: Diomedes on August 23, 2007, 06:22:52 AM
you suck
Title: Re: Fantasy Football Advice Thread
Post by: PhillyPhanInDC on August 23, 2007, 09:33:48 AM
Quote from: MDS on August 23, 2007, 01:17:12 AM
tell me i suck, 6th pick in 10 team league:

1. addai
2. harrison
3. evans
4. bulger
5. deuce
6. heap
7. branch
ne defense
rackers

Doubtful the draft was nine rounds. Who else did you pick? Based on the fact you didn't post it, I am assuming you are ashamed, and you suck, like your running backs.
Title: Re: Fantasy Football Advice Thread
Post by: ice grillin you on August 23, 2007, 09:38:15 AM
he did a fantasy draft while he was at eagle training camp
Title: Re: Fantasy Football Advice Thread
Post by: MDS on August 23, 2007, 01:49:10 PM
thats my top 7 and d/kicker. cant remember the rest and the league isnt up on yahoo since we did a live draft.
Title: Re: Fantasy Football Advice Thread
Post by: rjs246 on August 23, 2007, 01:59:50 PM
I'm still marveling at PPinDC's running backs. I think some people in his league must be a little slow.
Title: Re: Fantasy Football Advice Thread
Post by: SunMo on August 26, 2007, 12:17:34 AM
had IGY's 10 team league draft today, I had the 5th pick, my team is as follows (in order drafted):

Westbrook
Jones-Drew
Roy Williams
Ronnie Brown
Randy Moss
Laverneious Coles
Shockey
Santonio Holmes
Ladell Betts
Vince Young
Champ Bailey
Alex Smith
Rhonde Barber
Ray Lewis
Aaron Schobel
Jeff Wilkins
Lofa Tatupu
Devin Hester
Chris Brown
Darren Sharper
Title: Re: Fantasy Football Advice Thread
Post by: phattymatty on August 26, 2007, 12:47:18 AM
this was my first draft of the season.  i had the first pick obviously. 

oh, and my interent went out after round 7.  never, ever, would i pick dallas defense, much less in the 9th round.

1.     (1)     LaDainian Tomlinson     RB
2.    (24)    Tom Brady    QB
3.    (25)    Chad Johnson    WR
4.    (48)    Marshawn Lynch    RB
5.    (49)    Thomas Jones    RB
6.    (72)    Vernon Davis    TE
7.    (73)    Devery Henderson    WR
8.    (96)    Kevin Curtis    WR
9.    (97)    Dallas    DEF
10.    (120)    Joe Horn    WR
11.    (121)    Reuben Droughns    RB
12.    (144)    Josh Brown    K
13.    (145)    Brandon Jones    WR
14.    (168)    Daunte Culpepper    QB
15.    (169)    Marcus Pollard    TE
Title: Re: Fantasy Football Advice Thread
Post by: MDS on August 26, 2007, 01:02:33 AM
do both these drafts have flex positions? cause otherwise your wr's are too weak.
Title: Re: Fantasy Football Advice Thread
Post by: shorebird on August 26, 2007, 09:23:48 AM
Quote from: SunMo on August 26, 2007, 12:17:34 AM
had IGY's 10 team league draft today, I had the 5th pick, my team is as follows (in order drafted):

Westbrook
Jones-Drew


If Jones Drew can play 16 games like he did the last half of last year, your looking good. He might put up more pts. than Bwest. He's a tough little sucker.
Title: Re: Fantasy Football Advice Thread
Post by: phattymatty on August 26, 2007, 11:07:42 AM
Quote from: MDS on August 26, 2007, 01:02:33 AM
do both these drafts have flex positions? cause otherwise your wr's are too weak.

i have a flex, yes.
Title: Re: Fantasy Football Advice Thread
Post by: MDS on August 26, 2007, 12:30:43 PM
Quote from: phattymatty on August 26, 2007, 11:07:42 AM
Quote from: MDS on August 26, 2007, 01:02:33 AM
do both these drafts have flex positions? cause otherwise your wr's are too weak.

i have a flex, yes.

well then, it all makes sense now.
Title: Re: Fantasy Football Advice Thread
Post by: ice grillin you on August 26, 2007, 01:08:39 PM
same draft as sun's

stephen jackson
willis mcgahee
terrel owens
lee evans
santana moss
(http://www.philaflava.com/forum/images/smiles/icon_twrex_ROFLburger.gif)
deangelo williams
tony romo
tony gonzalez
derrick mason
julius jones
matt schaub
chester taylor
robert meachum
london fletcher
shaun phillips
leonard little
jermain phillips
jason hanson
Title: Re: Fantasy Football Advice Thread
Post by: troyhstewart on August 26, 2007, 04:01:17 PM
10 team yahoo league


1. (9) Laurence Maroney RB
2. (12) Travis Henry RB
3. (29) Larry Fitzgerald WR
4. (32) Marshawn Lynch RB
5. (49) Donovan McNabb QB
6. (52) Braylon Edwards WR
7. (69) Kellen Winslow TE
8. (72) San Diego DEF
9. (89) Santonio Holmes WR
10. (92) Kevin Curtis WR
11. (109) Chester Taylor RB
12. (112) Matt Leinart QB
13. (129) Matt Jones WR
14. (132) LenDale White RB
15. (149) Stephen Gostkowski K
Title: Re: Fantasy Football Advice Thread
Post by: shorebird on August 26, 2007, 08:03:30 PM
How 'bout this team.

L.T.
Carson Palmer
Tory Holt
Duece McAllister
Tony Gonzalez
Laverneous Coles
Ahman Green
Donte' Stallworth
L.J. Smith
Ben Rothlisberger
David Akers
Steelers D
Lito Shepard
Trent Green
Jay Feeley
Title: Re: Fantasy Football Advice Thread
Post by: Dillen on August 28, 2007, 09:55:17 AM
I've got the 4th pick in 10 minutes and not really liking it. Assuming LT, Jackson and Johnson are gone, I really have no idea who to pick. Gore's knee's are just like Buckhalter's, and I really could not stand rooting for Shaun Alexander. I'll go with Addai or Rudi probably, then hope for McGahee on the way back.
Title: Re: Fantasy Football Advice Thread
Post by: ice grillin you on August 28, 2007, 10:14:16 AM
take westbrook if its a receptions league
Title: Re: Fantasy Football Advice Thread
Post by: PhillyPhanInDC on August 28, 2007, 10:26:09 AM
As IGY said, if it's PPR, go with Westy or Bush. If not, you have to go with Gore, Alexander, or Addai in that order. Granted, Gore's knees are a question mark, but he showed no effects last year, and he was a farging beast. If you don't take him, and he puts up similar numbers, which he's projected to do, you'll be kicking yourself in the ass. Just make sure you handcuff him, which you can do on the FA wire later. While Alexander is as dry as wood, he should definately rebound from last year, and should be good as a RB1.
Title: Re: Fantasy Football Advice Thread
Post by: SunMo on August 28, 2007, 10:39:43 AM
do not take bush 4th
Title: Re: Fantasy Football Advice Thread
Post by: PhillyPhanInDC on August 28, 2007, 10:55:27 AM
Should have clarified that. At four, with LT, Jackson, Johnson going it should be Westy or Addai. Bush's ranking would definately get moved way up in a PPR league, but he shouldn't be in the top five.
Title: Re: Fantasy Football Advice Thread
Post by: Dillen on August 28, 2007, 10:57:03 AM
It wasn't a receptions league, and I ended up taking Rudi 4th. I wasn't thrilled with it, but 4th-7th is the worst spot to pick I think because everyone in there is bunched the same. At least I know I'll get 1300 yards and 10 TDs.

Final results:
1. (4) Rudi Johnson RB
2 (17) Maurice Drew RB
3. (24) Marvin Harrison WR
4. (37) Anquan Boldin WR
5. (44) Philip Rivers QB
6. (57) Laveranues Coles WR
7. (64) New England DEF
8. (77) Deuce McAllister RB
9. (84) Benjamin Watson TE
10. (97) Matt Hasselbeck QB
11. (104) Isaac Bruce WR
12. (117) Heath Miller TE
13. (124) Leon Washington RB
14. (137) Carolina DEF
15. (144) Matt Stover K

Deuce and Maurice Drew both have the same bye week, but in the 8th round he was way too good to pass up. I was going to take Deangelo Williams or Brandon Jackson with my 13th pick but they were both taken right before my pick. I'm pretty happy with my team.
Title: Re: Fantasy Football Advice Thread
Post by: PhillyPhanInDC on August 28, 2007, 11:28:30 AM
Quote from: rjs246 on August 23, 2007, 01:59:50 PM
I'm still marveling at PPinDC's running backs. I think some people in his league must be a little slow.

Ha. I paid for it when it came to WRs, when the big name WRs started to come off the board, I stuck with RBs. Normally I find a WR sometime in the season that does a servicable job. I later dropped Demetrius Williams and picked up Brandon Jones, I think he could be a quiet surprise, down the stretch last year he really started to improve, and while I still think Vince Young is going to slump this season, Jones is the only guy who is a decent option on the team.
Title: Re: Fantasy Football Advice Thread
Post by: rjs246 on August 28, 2007, 11:39:32 AM
Since it's all the rage to post your teams here... thoughts on my team? This is my annual 14-team league so clearly the pickins are slim. Basically I went entirely with players with huge upside and huge potential to bomb out and be terrible. All five of my running backs have been on the injury list this year. My quarterbacks are young and unproven, but have good WRs to through to. I got TO and Burress way after I should have because everyone hates them. Overall I'm pretty happy with the potential, but I don't have any real household name studs:

ZombieApocalypse
QB:
Matt Leinart
J.P. Losman

RB:
Travis Henry
Thomas Jones
Jerious Norwood
Tatum Bell
Mike Bell

WR/TE:
Terrell Owens
Plaxico Burress
Greg Jennings
Alge Crumpler
L.J. Smith

K:
Neil Rackers

DEF:
Cincinnati Bengals
Title: Re: Fantasy Football Advice Thread
Post by: phattymatty on August 28, 2007, 11:52:58 AM
hot.  garbage.
Title: Re: Fantasy Football Advice Thread
Post by: rjs246 on August 28, 2007, 12:00:28 PM
Ha! Dick.

I'm just noticing that you've got the All-2003 squad.

Culpepper, Alexander, Joe Horn, Jamal Lewis, Hines Ward... the NFL doesn't have an old-timer's day.
Title: Re: Fantasy Football Advice Thread
Post by: phattymatty on August 28, 2007, 12:04:18 PM
well hopefully culpepper and horn never break the starting lineup, i'm pretty sure they were my last two picks.

alexander and ward will be fine.

jamal lewis could have a great year or be a huge bust. 
Title: Re: Fantasy Football Advice Thread
Post by: Rome on August 28, 2007, 12:07:54 PM
I passed on Romo twice in our draft yesterday even though QB's were drying up.  I couldn't bring myself to draft a Cowboy.  Thankfully a guy who holds a special place in his heart for the Cowboys picked him up before I had no other choice but to take him.
Title: Re: Fantasy Football Advice Thread
Post by: ice grillin you on August 28, 2007, 12:09:08 PM
wait i thought i was a taterskin fan?
Title: Re: Fantasy Football Advice Thread
Post by: Dillen on August 28, 2007, 12:33:48 PM
I've never done a 14 team league, but I guess that's pretty solid. I'd definitely stay away from Henry but it's too late now.
Title: Re: Fantasy Football Advice Thread
Post by: rjs246 on August 28, 2007, 12:50:06 PM
His upside was just too much to pass on. Every time he's ever been a starter he's put up outstanding numbers. Couple that with the Denver offense and I couldn't resist... plus I handcuffed him since he's made out of swizzle sticks.
Title: Re: Fantasy Football Advice Thread
Post by: phattymatty on August 28, 2007, 01:06:55 PM
speaking of 2003...
Title: Re: Fantasy Football Advice Thread
Post by: Rome on August 28, 2007, 01:23:51 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on August 28, 2007, 12:09:08 PM
wait i thought i was a taterskin fan?

What's the difference?
Title: Re: Fantasy Football Advice Thread
Post by: MDS on August 28, 2007, 11:58:15 PM
This was the random yahoo public league i always do, I had 7th pick.

1. BWest
2. Peyton
3. Fitz
4. Javon
5. Plexiglass
6. Tom Jones
7. Krazy Kellen
8. Ahman
9. Igs D
10. Devery
11. Brandon Jackson
12. Mike Turner (stole guys handcuff cause im an ass)
13. Brandon Jones
14. Alex Smith (has the same bye week as Peyton, but I think he's gonna be big this year so hopin for a trade)
15. Stephen Gostowski (kickers went real early and some guy had 2 of em, I don't know....)

Not bad for not giving a shtein either way, I guess.
Title: Re: Fantasy Football Advice Thread
Post by: rjs246 on August 29, 2007, 07:02:12 AM
You got Thomas Jones in the 6th round and Brandon Jackson in the 11th? What the farg?
Title: Re: Fantasy Football Advice Thread
Post by: PhillyPhanInDC on August 29, 2007, 09:50:46 AM
Quote from: rjs246 on August 29, 2007, 07:02:12 AM
You got Thomas Jones in the 6th round and Brandon Jackson in the 11th? What the farg?

MDS is either playing with a bunch of third graders, or someone needs to call shenanigans.
Title: Re: Fantasy Football Advice Thread
Post by: phattymatty on August 29, 2007, 09:59:42 AM
i had a 10 team, 12 round draft a few days ago and brandon jackson was never picked.  he's still a FA.
Title: Re: Fantasy Football Advice Thread
Post by: MDS on August 29, 2007, 10:51:39 AM
Quote from: rjs246 on August 29, 2007, 07:02:12 AM
You got Thomas Jones in the 6th round and Brandon Jackson in the 11th? What the farg?

yea this was a yahoo public league with a bunch of morons. i was deadset on having an all-eagles team until peyton manning lasted into the 2nd round.
Title: Re: Fantasy Football Advice Thread
Post by: rjs246 on August 29, 2007, 10:52:26 AM
Way to stick to your guns.
Title: Re: Fantasy Football Advice Thread
Post by: SunMo on August 29, 2007, 10:53:02 AM
i wish he'd stick a gun in his mouth
Title: Re: Fantasy Football Advice Thread
Post by: PoopyfaceMcGee on August 29, 2007, 10:57:57 AM
Quote from: SunMo on August 29, 2007, 10:53:02 AM
i wish he'd stick a gun in his mouth

filled with AIDS
Title: Re: Fantasy Football Advice Thread
Post by: SunMo on August 29, 2007, 10:58:49 AM
probably unnecessary at that point
Title: Re: Fantasy Football Advice Thread
Post by: PoopyfaceMcGee on August 29, 2007, 11:00:46 AM
Quote from: SunMo on August 29, 2007, 10:58:49 AM
probably unnecessary at that point

wouldn't hurt to be sure, just in case he pulls a Tyler Durden
Title: Re: Fantasy Football Advice Thread
Post by: MDS on August 29, 2007, 11:02:28 AM
One of these days, you're all gonna wake up in gallons of piss and bile. And you're gonna know where it came from. Me. By way of some guy I paid to do it.
Title: Re: Fantasy Football Advice Thread
Post by: ice grillin you on August 29, 2007, 04:52:42 PM
This was the random yahoo public league i always do, I had 7th pick.
;

care factor: negative infinity
Title: Re: Fantasy Football Advice Thread
Post by: SunMo on August 29, 2007, 04:53:10 PM
ha!