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Title: Terrible
Post by: shorebird on October 31, 2006, 05:08:50 AM
The Eagles didn't show up last week, they stunk and I still have the windows open trying to get the stench outta' my living room from that game.

But what is really terrible is seeing threads saying the season has passed this team by, and we might as well start talking about the draft when this season is only half over!!

There are eight more games to play people!! How can anyone be ready to pack it in half way through the season!?!? Does anyone think this offense is really as bad as they played last week?? I don't, and I feel that McNabb will bring them back to play better. I'm not saying Superbowl, but I know that there is enough talent on this team that they can play much better than the pile of crap they layed down Sunday.

I knew there would be all the "McNabb Sucks" and "Fire Andy Ried" comments. If you listen to all that crap, then you had to believe at the beginning of the season that we wouldn't even be in the race for the playoffs or division winner. We were supposed to be getting our asses kicked by the much improved NFC East. Well, so much for that bullcrap. The taterskins couldn't beat my sons High School team, and Dallas and the Giants are just as inconsistant as the Eagles.

Even as bad as the Eagles played last week, we are still in this thing people. I love football and my team too damn much to give up halfway through the season. If I didn't think that way, I wouldn't even bother watching.

So go ahead and call me a dumb ass homer. When all you iceholes get pissed enough to sell me your tickets, let me know. You might as well stop wasting your money.
Title: Re: Terrible
Post by: Magical_Retard on October 31, 2006, 06:54:57 AM
careful now...thats a lil too much optimism. ur supposed to hate the team and not care about them anymore.
Title: Re: Terrible
Post by: rjs246 on October 31, 2006, 07:25:00 AM
Dumb ass homer.
Title: Re: Terrible
Post by: ice grillin you on October 31, 2006, 08:21:39 AM
If you listen to all that crap, then you had to believe at the beginning of the season that we wouldn't even be in the race for the playoffs or division winner

i believed that they could have just as easily finished last in the division as first...the thing is tho...a first place finish was predicated on mopping up on the easy as hell first half schedule...so if you had told me in august that they would be 4-4 at the bye i would have said no chance at the playoffs...and thats what im saying now
Title: Re: Terrible
Post by: Sgt PSN on October 31, 2006, 08:22:40 AM
Quote from: ice grillin you on October 31, 2006, 08:21:39 AM
if you had told me in august that they would be 4-4 at the bye i would have said no chance at the playoffs...and thats what im saying now

holla! 
Title: Re: Terrible
Post by: Butchers Bill on October 31, 2006, 08:23:03 AM
Quote from: shorebird on October 31, 2006, 05:08:50 AM
I knew there would be all the "McNabb Sucks" and "Fire Andy Ried" comments. If you listen to all that crap, then you had to believe at the beginning of the season that we wouldn't even be in the race for the playoffs or division winner.

Maybe people are saying that because they thought the Eagles WERE a playoff contender?  Perhaps it was the 3 games the Eagles blew in OT or the 4th quarter and the one when they didn't show up?

Or maybe its 8 years of frustration at a head coach that never endeared himself to the media or the fans?  Eight years of making the same mistakes and never fixing them?  Christ, many in this fan base would love to see Buddy Ryan come out of retirement even though he never won a playoff game and only a small  percentage of regular season games compared to Reid.

People are not calling for AR's head because of one game or four games.  Its the pattern of the last 8 years thats going to do him in.

Title: Re: Terrible
Post by: ice grillin you on October 31, 2006, 08:37:17 AM
People are not calling for AR's head because of one game or four games.  Its the pattern of the last 8 years thats going to do him in.


money post
Title: Re: Terrible
Post by: Rome on October 31, 2006, 08:37:58 AM
I'm sick of having expectations for the Eagles only to have them dashed to bits by players who seemingly don't give a shtein, coaches who are inept, and player personnel people who pass over guys in the draft who could seriously help the team now instead of years down the line.

Despite all that, I was crazily optimistic at the start of the season.

The Eagles had to be at least 6-2 at this point of the season to have any shot at the playoffs.

They're 4-4.

SEASON OVER.

Title: Re: Terrible
Post by: SunMo on October 31, 2006, 08:45:28 AM
this thread is terrible...and people who get mad at the ones (me included) who are saying the season is over are terrible. 

you don't think so?  fine, go be that little 12 year old boy who has nothing but optimism.  the rest of us are going to act like adults and take what we've seen, past and present, and apply it what will most likely happen the rest of the year.

nobody's telling the blind homer's to stop believing, except when they start to chastise the realists.  go be optimistic with yourself, leave the adults to talk amongst ourselves.
Title: Re: Terrible
Post by: PoopyfaceMcGee on October 31, 2006, 09:14:56 AM
This thread would be lucky to snack on donkey feces.
Title: Re: Terrible
Post by: Rome on October 31, 2006, 09:20:24 AM
Is it possible to be blindly optimistic and wretchedly pessimistic at the same time?

If so, I think that's how I'm feeling at the moment.

:-D
Title: Re: Terrible
Post by: Tomahawk on October 31, 2006, 10:27:43 AM
Quote from: Jerome99RIP on October 31, 2006, 09:20:24 AM
Is it possible to be blindly optimistic and wretchedly pessimistic at the same time?

If so, I think that's how I'm feeling at the moment.

:-D

It is. I think the Eagles are going to back into the playoffs.... at 4-12.
Title: Re: Terrible
Post by: Sgt PSN on October 31, 2006, 10:40:36 AM
I'm optimistic about the fact that the Eagles will find a way to finish the season at 3-11. 
Title: Re: Terrible
Post by: ice grillin you on October 31, 2006, 10:45:14 AM
(http://media.scout.com/Media/Image/26/261540.jpg)
Title: Re: Terrible
Post by: Seabiscuit36 on October 31, 2006, 10:54:36 AM
Landry is a Coverage Liability
Title: Re: Terrible
Post by: ice grillin you on October 31, 2006, 11:00:52 AM
he can learn to cover...hasnt been asked to do much of it so far but he defintely has the skills to do so

dook is a beast and with OLB being weak as hell hes the pick right now
Title: Re: Terrible
Post by: Sgt PSN on October 31, 2006, 11:05:58 AM
Quote from: Seabiscuit36 on October 31, 2006, 10:54:36 AM
Landry is a Coverage Liability

I'll take a coverage liability over a tackling liability right now. 
Title: Re: Terrible
Post by: TexasEagle on October 31, 2006, 11:08:29 AM
Quote from: Sgt PSN on October 31, 2006, 11:05:58 AM
Quote from: Seabiscuit36 on October 31, 2006, 10:54:36 AM
Landry is a Coverage Liability

I'll take a coverage liability over a tackling liability right now.

Wurd! Having someone that can tackle on FIRST contact would be an amazing change of pace. Hell even if they can just hold the up/ slow him down so that the rest of the D can eventually get off the ground after being blocked to the sidelines and pancaked would be nice.

Man, the D sucks. :'(
Title: Re: Terrible
Post by: ice grillin you on October 31, 2006, 11:16:02 AM
lol @ this:

The Eagles didn't show up last week, they stunk and I still have the windows open trying to get the stench outta' my living room from that game.

But what is really terrible is seeing threads saying the season has passed this team by, and we might as well start talking about the draft when this season is only half over!!

There are eight more games to play people!! How can anyone be ready to pack it in half way through the season!?!? Does anyone think this offense is really as bad as they played last week?? I don't, and I feel that McNabb will bring them back to play better. I'm not saying Superbowl, but I know that there is enough talent on this team that they can play much better than the pile of crap they layed down Sunday.

I knew there would be all the "McNabb Sucks" and "Fire Andy Ried" comments. If you listen to all that crap, then you had to believe at the beginning of the season that we wouldn't even be in the race for the playoffs or division winner. We were supposed to be getting our asses kicked by the much improved NFC East. Well, so much for that bullcrap. The taterskins couldn't beat my sons High School team, and Dallas and the Giants are just as inconsistant as the Eagles.

Even as bad as the Eagles played last week, we are still in this thing people. I love football and my team too damn much to give up halfway through the season. If I didn't think that way, I wouldn't even bother watching.

So go ahead and call me a dumb ass homer. When all you iceholes get pissed enough to sell me your tickets, let me know. You might as well stop wasting your money
.



....turning into a draft thread
Title: Re: Terrible
Post by: General_Failure on October 31, 2006, 12:58:17 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on October 31, 2006, 11:00:52 AM
he can learn to cover

Michael Lewis?

or

Yeah, because the coaches here have been great at teaching the guys they have.
Title: Re: Terrible
Post by: ice grillin you on October 31, 2006, 01:00:51 PM
lewis is slow and plodding...he doesnt have the physical capabiltities to cover never has....landry is quick and can run he has all the tools to cover hes just never been required to do so at lsu...big difference
Title: Re: Terrible
Post by: General_Failure on October 31, 2006, 01:04:04 PM
Your plan still relies on the coaching staff. Do you really not see the flaw here?
Title: Re: Terrible
Post by: ice grillin you on October 31, 2006, 01:07:00 PM
so youre suggesting they skip the draft all together then?

cause i dont see any great coaches on this team
Title: Re: Terrible
Post by: General_Failure on October 31, 2006, 01:16:35 PM
RB coach seems to do alright. Castillo still has a job for a reason, I think.
Title: Re: Terrible
Post by: Sgt PSN on October 31, 2006, 01:27:44 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on October 31, 2006, 01:07:00 PM
so youre suggesting they skip the draft all together then?

cause i dont see any great coaches on this team

Quit bringing your taterskins philosophies over here. 
Title: Re: Terrible
Post by: shorebird on October 31, 2006, 02:48:02 PM
Nov 12 - vs. Washington, 
Nov 19 - vs. Tennessee,   
Nov 26 - at Indianapolis, 
Dec 4 - vs. Carolina,   
Dec 10 - at Washington, 
Dec 17 - at NY Giants,   
Dec 25 - at Dallas,   
Dec 31 - vs. Atlanta,   

Indy is a definate loss, the Giants probable, and although I by no means say the Eagles win the rest, the rest are winnable games by this team. Carolina is 4-4, and Tennesee is 2-6. And yes, even a 12 year old can look at that and think wild card. If we come off the buy and stomp the taterskins, that would be a division win and could start this offense on a roll.

Last week was a terrible game by the Eagles, but to give up on them now is nuts.
Title: Re: Terrible
Post by: Wingspan on October 31, 2006, 02:54:16 PM
Quote from: shorebird on October 31, 2006, 02:48:02 PM
Nov 12 - vs. Washington, 
Nov 19 - vs. Tennessee,   
Nov 26 - at Indianapolis, 


Last week was a terrible game by the Eagles, but to give up on them now is nuts.


in theory i agree.

the 4-4 hole is going to be a tough climb. basically, the eagles need an undefeated november. if they can correct these issues...7-4 would be a great spot for them to be in all things considered.
Title: Re: Terrible
Post by: ice grillin you on October 31, 2006, 02:56:19 PM
tampa and jacksonville were guaranteed wins too

they have to win 6 of 8 just to get to ten wins...ever the homer in you is admitting that there is a guaranteed loss vs colts and a more than olikely loss vs giants...that means they have to go 6-0 in the other games...games that include....at dallas....atlanta....carolina and even at washington which is far from guaranteed...hell the skins put 36 on the board in a win over the same team the eagles just got embarrassed by

season OVER
Title: Re: Terrible
Post by: The BIGSTUD on October 31, 2006, 03:04:31 PM
Is the season over? No. Does it look good? No.

I usually take the optimistic approach to anything. I take that approach until I can't take it anymore. Sunday was the last straw. I have nothing to be optimistic about. Even if I pretended to be, I'd just be lying to myself to set myself up for disappointment.

There is only one thing right now I can say about the season. If the Eagles somehow get into the playoffs, then they obviously will have majorly turned something around, considering how awful they are playing right now. So if that happens then they got a chance to go to the Superbowl. Because to make the playoffs right now they are going to have to go 6-2 the rest of the way. With the tough final 8 games, if they do that then they will be one of the best teams in football to only have 2 losses with these games.
Title: Re: Terrible
Post by: Sgt PSN on October 31, 2006, 04:00:44 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on October 31, 2006, 02:56:19 PM
tampa and jacksonville were guaranteed wins too

they have to win 6 of 8 just to get to ten wins...ever the homer in you is admitting that there is a guaranteed loss vs colts and a more than olikely loss vs giants...that means they have to go 6-0 in the other games...games that include....at dallas....atlanta....carolina and even at washington which is far from guaranteed...hell the skins put 36 on the board in a win over the same team the eagles just got embarrassed by

season OVER

Even with Jacksonville's recent struggles/injuries I don't think too many off us around these parts had it chalked up as a win.  But it definately wasn't one of those definate losses that we had it as when the schedule came out. 
Title: Re: Terrible
Post by: ice grillin you on October 31, 2006, 04:03:25 PM
Even with Jacksonville's recent struggles/injuries I don't think too many off us around these parts had it chalked up as a win.

after the tampa game no...but it still was more of a win than most of the games in the second half
Title: Re: Terrible
Post by: Rome on October 31, 2006, 04:04:37 PM
I thought the Eagles were going to beat Jacksonville.

I wasn't "sure" but I had a reasonable expectation of victory.

I thought the Eagles were going to destroy Tampa.

Silly me.
Title: Re: Terrible
Post by: TexasEagle on October 31, 2006, 09:09:26 PM
Quote from: shorebird on October 31, 2006, 02:48:02 PM
Last week was a terrible game by the Eagles, but to give up on them now is nuts.


It's not that they lost games. It's HOW they lost the games. Losing two winnable games on last second kicks (after the D sucked up the final minutes of the games) is bad enough, but not showing up for a game they absolutely HAD to have is something else.

Given the way they've given up three games and not shown up to the fourth, I have little optimism in them now rising up out of 3rd place in the division to pull something good out of this year. The Sunday was about the most putrid display of football I've seen this team have since some of those Colts debacles recently.
Title: Re: Terrible
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on November 01, 2006, 02:19:27 AM
I want to shoot myself.
Title: Re: Terrible
Post by: Greenfeather on November 01, 2006, 08:07:09 PM
Any Reid needs to feel some heat.  Eventually Jeffery Lurie is going to notice that there are no Super Bowl trophies collecting dust in the front office and that their best chance at it came and went already.  Sure, Andy Reid has a great winning percentage, except when it really counts.
Title: Re: Terrible
Post by: Eagaholic on November 02, 2006, 12:17:37 AM
Quote from: Greenfeather on November 01, 2006, 08:07:09 PM
Any Reid needs to feel some heat.  Eventually Jeffery Lurie is going to notice that there are no Super Bowl trophies collecting dust in the front office and that their best chance at it came and went already.  Sure, Andy Reid has a great winning percentage, except when it really counts.


It won't happen. The Eagles are the silver standard of the league (it had to happen some time). Lurie won't even think of replacing Reid until they are the magnesium, or possibly talc standard.
Title: Re: Terrible
Post by: Rome on November 02, 2006, 09:10:32 AM
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on November 01, 2006, 02:19:27 AM
I want to shoot myself.

You're an Eagles fan, so chances are, the gun would jam.   :-D
Title: Re: Terrible
Post by: rjs246 on November 02, 2006, 09:36:55 AM
This thread still amazes me. Look at the rest of the schedule. There are only 3 games that they even SHOULD win. And they could easily lose one of those to the Skins. Unreal.
Title: Re: Terrible
Post by: ice grillin you on November 02, 2006, 10:06:04 AM
yep

theres a very real chance they are gonna be favored only twice in the second half
Title: Re: Terrible
Post by: SOARIN EAGLE on November 02, 2006, 10:39:40 AM
Seasons far from over. The Eagles can still turn it around, grant you they have a long way to go going on the last few games. But I still believe in this team and hope they can get it done.
Title: Re: Terrible
Post by: General_Failure on November 02, 2006, 10:50:31 AM
Any team can turn it around. The Eagles are one of twenty teams that will not do so, at least not in a positive direction.
Title: Re: Terrible
Post by: mussa on November 02, 2006, 10:53:53 AM
...Fly Luriestache Fly! On the road to victory! L! U! R! I! E! S! T! A! C! H! E! LURIESTACH!!

Title: Re: Terrible
Post by: ice grillin you on November 02, 2006, 01:08:07 PM
if the season ended this weekend and dallas stl and minn all lost the eagles would make the playoffs
Title: Re: Terrible
Post by: cj2112 on November 02, 2006, 01:41:34 PM
mussa, what the f is your avatar?  Hilarious.
Title: Re: Terrible
Post by: mussa on November 02, 2006, 02:36:47 PM
i have no clue what it is. i ripped it off someone else. i couldn't stop laughing at it
Title: Re: Terrible
Post by: General_Failure on November 02, 2006, 02:38:34 PM
It'sa me, Maaario.
Title: Re: Terrible
Post by: Eaglez on November 02, 2006, 06:35:06 PM
I think its an SNL skit -- but I think the mustaches are transposed.
Title: Re: Terrible
Post by: MDS on November 02, 2006, 06:37:20 PM
The Eagles could have used me: 2 rec, 2 TD
Title: Re: Terrible
Post by: shorebird on November 02, 2006, 07:30:12 PM
Looks like a lot of people here think like Reuben Frank. (http://www.phillyburbs.com/pb-dyn/news/99-11022006-735843.html)

Quote6. They're Dumb: This is not a smart football team right now. There are obviously personnel and performance issues as well, but if the Eagles had just played smart football the first half of the season they'd be 6-2 and on the way to the playoffs. Now they're 4-4 and their playoff chances are not good.
Title: Re: Terrible
Post by: General_Failure on November 02, 2006, 07:59:23 PM
Quote from: Eaglez on November 02, 2006, 06:35:06 PM
I think its an SNL skit -- but I think the mustaches are transposed.

No, it's a Japanese Nintendo commercial.
Title: Re: Terrible
Post by: MadMarchHare on November 03, 2006, 12:50:31 AM
Quote from: shorebird on November 02, 2006, 07:30:12 PM
Looks like a lot of people here think like Reuben Frank. (http://www.phillyburbs.com/pb-dyn/news/99-11022006-735843.html)

Quote6. They're Dumb: This is not a smart football team right now. There are obviously personnel and performance issues as well, but if the Eagles had just played smart football the first half of the season they'd be 6-2 and on the way to the playoffs. Now they're 4-4 and their playoff chances are not good.

Even a blind pig finds a truffle once in a while.