http://www.philadelphiaeagles.com/homeNewsDetail.jsp?id=55750
Looks like it won't be Donald Strickland. I don't know why. They obviously don't like him.
I'd be lying if I said I knew a lot about Fox other than he went to OSU.
Here some crap about him from the draft last year:
Position: CB
Class: Sr
School: Ohio St.
Conference: Big Ten
Ht., Wt.: 5-11, 191
40 Time: 4.52
Selected by: Minnesota Vikings
Round 3, pick 16 (80 overall) Grading System
BIO: Three-year starter who posted 28/0/3 in nine games of an abbreviated senior campaign when he was sidelined with an arm injury. All-Conference selection as a junior after tallying 77/3/9. Experienced at both cornerback and safety and productive on special teams.
POSITIVES: Tough, feisty defensive back with a good head for the position. Alert, displays good ball awareness and immediately locates the pass in the air. Leads the defensive secondary, hard working and takes on bigger opponents defending screen passes. Positions himself to make a play on the ball and does a nice job reading receivers' eyes.
NEGATIVES: Quick out of his backpedal and prefers to side shuffle down the field. Marginal playing speed and struggles staying downfield with opponents. Consistently playing catch-up. He is white.
ANALYSIS: An instinctive prospect with solid size/speed numbers and excellent intangibles, Fox is coming off a disappointing senior campaign. And though it was marred by injury, scouts still wonder about his potential for the next level. Previously displayed himself as a potential first-day pick but now a late-round choice who will fight to see action as a nickel back in the NFL.
Can't they just lie once and list a CB at 6'1? Please?
Just realized dude has been listed as a safety since he was drafted. What the farg?
Quote from: PhillyPhaninDC on September 19, 2006, 03:47:15 PM
NEGATIVES: Quick out of his backpedal and prefers to side shuffle down the field. Marginal playing speed and struggles staying downfield with opponents. Consistently playing catch-up. He is white.
:-D
Quote from: Wingspan on September 19, 2006, 03:51:56 PM
Quote from: PhillyPhaninDC on September 19, 2006, 03:47:15 PM
NEGATIVES: Quick out of his backpedal and prefers to side shuffle down the field. Marginal playing speed and struggles staying downfield with opponents. Consistently playing catch-up. He is white.
:-D
I was wondering if anyone would pick that up.
From ESPN Insider:
Quote
Comment:
Is a versatile athlete with experience at DC and DS. Is a very good athlete with above average speed at the safety position. Has good range in coverage and it should only improve with more experience in space. He is an aggressive and tough DB that will fill hard versus the run. He will need to add some bulk and get stronger. Needs to improve his hands when getting through traffic and must learn to take on blocks rather than running around them and getting out of position. Needs to adjust to playing in more space.
[bunkley78]This guys is the biggest secret in the division. He will eat pieces of shtein like Burress, Moss, and T.O for breakfast. Division champs.[/bunkley78]
is strickland even on the practice squad?
(http://www.theozone.net/04-05images/football/portraits/37-Dustin-Fox-200.jpg)
Quote from: hunt on September 19, 2006, 03:54:16 PM
is strickland even on the practice squad?
Nope. He was cut, and never claimed.
???
Quote from: PhillyPhaninDC on September 19, 2006, 03:56:42 PM
Quote from: hunt on September 19, 2006, 03:54:16 PM
is strickland even on the practice squad?
Nope. He was cut, and never claimed.
???
that's what i thought.
then it makes sense to bring up a guy who's been practicing with the team...even if he is a honkey.
He's dreamy.
bruce perry takes fox's place on the practice squad, in case anybody cares.
Quick! Name me a respectable, serviceable white CB! (No, you can't name Dustin Fox)
Quote from: FFatPatt on September 19, 2006, 04:00:28 PM
He's dreamy.
imagine him covering bloom one-on-one in practice.
ooo-gah!
Quote from: PhillyPhaninDC on September 19, 2006, 03:53:38 PM
Quote from: Wingspan on September 19, 2006, 03:51:56 PM
Quote from: PhillyPhaninDC on September 19, 2006, 03:47:15 PM
NEGATIVES: Quick out of his backpedal and prefers to side shuffle down the field. Marginal playing speed and struggles staying downfield with opponents. Consistently playing catch-up. He is white.
:-D
I was wondering if anyone would pick that up.
From ESPN Insider:
Quote
Comment:
Is a versatile athlete with experience at DC and DS. Is a very good athlete with above average speed at the safety position. Has good range in coverage and it should only improve with more experience in space. He is an aggressive and tough DB that will fill hard versus the run. He will need to add some bulk and get stronger. Needs to improve his hands when getting through traffic and must learn to take on blocks rather than running around them and getting out of position. Needs to adjust to playing in more space.
[bunkley78]This guys is the biggest secret in the division. He will eat pieces of shtein like Burress, Moss, and T.O for breakfast. Division champs.[/bunkley78]
We don't need the mastery of Fox to win the division. 8)
Holy shtein. I did a Google search for "White Cornerbacks", and this is the first site that came up.
http://www.castefootball.us/index.asp
Looks like some kind of white supremacist football fan site. Nice.
Quote from: PhillyPhaninDC on September 19, 2006, 04:04:16 PM
Quick! Name me a respectable, serviceable white CB! (No, you can't name Dustin Fox)
Sehorn?
Quote from: FFatPatt on September 19, 2006, 04:09:14 PM
Quote from: PhillyPhaninDC on September 19, 2006, 04:04:16 PM
Quick! Name me a respectable, serviceable white CB! (No, you can't name Dustin Fox)
Sehorn?
Sehorn is
sooo 2003.
(http://images.nfl.com/images/players/60x80/4241.jpg)
I should have added
active to my list of requirements.
Scott Ware was an amazing DB.
Quote from: PhillyPhaninDC on September 19, 2006, 04:14:17 PM
Sehorn is sooo 2003.
(http://images.nfl.com/images/players/60x80/4241.jpg)
I should have added active to my list of requirements.
More like 1999, but I think he's the most recent white CB to have success as a starter in the NFL.
Rod Woodson
We have our own Archuletta now, only dirt cheap. Woo!
Quote from: SunMo on September 19, 2006, 04:24:01 PM
Rod Woodson
Half white is closer to black than white in today's society.
IGY will love this.
White safety, white CB and a white LB.
now we need a white RB.
Where's Travis Jervey at these days?
one positive about this move is that it says to me that they are fairly confident that hood is gonna play this week...because dustin fox cant play corner in the nfl
Scouted him, IGY?
When you go to NO check out the Saints starting LBs...Shanle, Simoneau and Fujita. It's a white out at LB!
man, i would love to see IGY's face when Dustin Fox's name and face appear on the starting lineup graphic.
Quote from: SunMo on September 19, 2006, 04:58:31 PM
man, i would love to see IGY's face when Dustin Fox's name and face appear on the starting lineup graphic.
Lemme help you out....
(http://www.rootology.com/images/exploding_head.jpg)
good white corners simply dont exist....you dont ever get one...white olb are a little different animal...there are good ones but they are so rare that you should never use a high pick or trade for one
anyway the point is hanson is bad enough...fox i honestly cant even believe hes on a nfl team much less would ever actually see the field at cb...they would have gone after strickland had they believed they would need a corner this week....meaning we will be all up in the hood on sunday....ya heard?
i like his yellow shirt
Quote from: hunt on September 19, 2006, 04:05:18 PM
Quote from: FFatPatt on September 19, 2006, 04:00:28 PM
He's dreamy.
imagine him covering bloom one-on-one in practice.
ooo-gah!
some little fat kid was sitting in front of me at the game on sunday wearing a bloom jersey. he was getting it pretty tough, even hough he was like 12.
Quote from: ice grillin you on September 19, 2006, 05:03:02 PM
...fox i honestly cant even believe hes on a nfl team much less would ever actually see the field at cb...
How do you know? I seriously doubt you've ever seen him play, but admitting that is against your own rules.
Yeah, you made a good point about Hood playing.
yeah ive never seen ohio state play before...come on son...
ive seen it all when people feel the need to defend justin fox...you cant possibly worship andy that much can you?...wait dont answer that
I don't think we're defending him. I think we're (at least I am) taking a wait and see attitude. He was pretty good at OSU.
exactly
he was "pretty good" in college
hes a classic college player...a guy who posseses zero speed but can get away with it in college but would/will get eaten alive by nfl wr's
if you don't stop discussing the merits of Dustin Fox, im going to kill a puppy.
If we had a black kicker, then i think we win the super bowl hands down
that is incredibly accurate though, strickland must of stole a cheeseburger from reid to not get back on this team. i though he looked pretty decent...
that is incredibly accurate! that is incredibly accurate! that is incredibly accurate!
damn'd you all to hell!
if you don't stop discussing the merits of Dustin Fox, im going to kill a puppy.
exactly my point...its a non issue except for the fact that i think it bodes well for hoods health as no way is fox gonna play corner for the eagles...which is all i was saying before the sheep started comin
Quote from: ice grillin you on September 19, 2006, 05:16:18 PM
yeah ive never seen ohio state play before...come on son...
ive seen it all when people feel the need to defend justin fox...you cant possibly worship andy that much can you?...wait dont answer that
I never said that he will be a good player. There is absolutely no way you can make a judgement on any player before you've seen him play, period. I dont care if you've seen an Ohio State game where he's on the field, chances are you didnt even remember him 2 days after the game was over.
Why do you act like whenever someone disagrees with you they're worshipping the front office? Get your head out of your ass. Most people aren't stupid enough to make a judgement on a player before they've even seen him.
Ha...so I'm a sheep because I say wait and see?
But yet you dismiss the guy without even seeing him play. And I'm wrong?
I agree about Hood coming back.
The crazy thing about Hood injury is that it happened on a play that was blown dead but allowed to continue. Shockey had a false start and they handed off to Tiki. Hood hurt himself when taking Tiki out of bounds.
So if they play is whistled dead and stopped ASAP - Hood not hurt.
If the Birds don't choke it up and go to OT - Kearse not hurt.
>:(
like sun said im not gonna discuss a player who wasnt even that good in college
dustin fox is a complete and utter non entity who wont be in the league two weeks from now
think Fox jerseys are on sale yet? i want one.
Quote from: SunMo on September 19, 2006, 05:36:41 PM
if you don't stop discussing the merits of Dustin Fox, im going to kill a puppy.
Is the talk of it making you hungry, or horny?
Need a change from the Carlos Perez joint?
Quote from: FFatPatt on September 19, 2006, 05:50:28 PM
Is the talk of it making you hungry, or horny?
i said puppy, not 6 year old autistic boy
Quote from: SunMo on September 19, 2006, 05:59:48 PM
6 year old autistic boy
I was trying to steer the conversation AWAY from Dustin Fox.
Quote from: PhillyPhaninDC on September 19, 2006, 04:04:16 PM
Quick! Name me a respectable, serviceable white CB! (No, you can't name Dustin Fox)
Erlakkerz!1!@!!1!
(http://img234.imageshack.us/img234/3885/braddisplay4sf4.jpg)
that is incredibly accurate!
PFT link (http://www.profootballtalk.com/rumormill.htm)
QuoteKEARSE AVOIDS TRIFECTA
A league source tells us that Eagles defensive end Jevon Kearse has suffered a torn MCL and PCL in his left knee, but that the ACL is not torn.
That's good news (sort of) for Kearse, since the repair and rehab of a torn ACL is a difficult, arduous process.
The source says that Kearse will be evaluated soon by Miami surgeon Dr. John Uribe, who repaired within the past couple of years a torn MCL and PCL suffered by Jags running back Fred Taylor. Surgery could be performed as early as next week.
Meanwhile, the Eagles have placed Kearse on injured reserve, ending his season. To take his place on the active roster, the Eagles promoted CB Dustin Fox, a former third-round draft pick of the Vikings who joined the Eagles' practice squad earlier this year.
maybe fox was brought up to play special teams so somebody else wouldn't have to...probably somebody from the secondary.
A league source tells us that Eagles defensive end Jevon Kearse has suffered a torn MCL and PCL in his left knee, but that the ACL is not torn.
exactly what i said...no way you severly sprain three ligaments...one or two had to be torn...especially because of the direction the knee went...it was indentical to carson palmer
No, not really. (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2290239)
QuoteCarson Palmer's knee injury was "devastating and potentially career-ending," involving numerous ligament tears, a shredded ligament, damaged cartilage and a dislocated kneecap, his surgeon said Thursday.
QuoteThe team announced that he had torn the anterior cruciate and medial collateral ligaments. The damage was much more extensive and severe, but Dr. Lonnie Paulos said surgery went well and Palmer could be back for the start of the season.
Quote from: ice grillin you on September 20, 2006, 06:07:34 AM
A league source tells us that Eagles defensive end Jevon Kearse has suffered a torn MCL and PCL in his left knee, but that the ACL is not torn.
exactly what i said...no way you severly sprain three ligaments...one or two had to be torn...especially because of the direction the knee went...it was indentical to carson palmer
My guess is that some of the ligaments were 'partially' torn which is much different than them being fully torn. Often times partial tears are so minute that they're listed as severe sprains.
lol...im saying the knee moved in an identical way to palmers...not the injuries themselves
I know... I'm really just farging with you.
I knew Palmer had farged up a lot of shtein in his knee so I really just went to look myself.
Cole will start on the same side (weak) he's been playing on. Howard will move over to strong side DE.
Interesting.
I don't know that I like that though. I would almost rather see them leave it as is and just start McDougle or Thomas at DE and keep the rotation the same. Then if that doesn't work you move it around like this.
Also...with Hood doubtful we're looking at Joselio Hanson starting. He'll be going against his former team so hopefully he'll be pumped and have a good game.
Quote from: FFatPatt on September 20, 2006, 11:46:04 AM
Cole will start on the same side (weak) he's been playing on. Howard will move over to strong side DE.
Wow, I was thinking that would be the right move today since Howard's a veteran and he's more stout against the run. Plus Cole's a beast from the weak side and is more than ready to be a starter. That's the right move IMO.
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on September 20, 2006, 07:36:31 PM
Interesting.
I don't know that I like that though. I would almost rather see them leave it as is and just start McDougle or Thomas at DE and keep the rotation the same. Then if that doesn't work you move it around like this.
Also...with Hood doubtful we're looking at Joselio Hanson starting. He'll be going against his former team so hopefully he'll be pumped and have a good game.
still holding out hope that hood makes it.
arnaz battle is my sleeper fantasy player of the week
good for him
I can understand this in JJ's eyes, but I don't agree with it. You have to switch too many things up like this.
You move Howard away from his comfort zone. Even though he has experience at LDE he was playing nothing but RDE since he got here (and DT in nickle) and his last couple years in NO.
Cole stays in his comfort zone. They'll still rotate. So he'll stay fresh.
McDougle is a LDE, that is where he is best suited for. That's where he looked good in camp and PS.
So that means that Thomas has to be the RDE. He's been playing LDE and has 2 sacks there.
Or they take Jerome out of his spot and slide him in #2 RDE.
Too much moving around.
I would've started McDougle at LDE and kept Thomas as #2 LDE and kept Howard and Cole at RDE.
killa cole will merk heads from any point...no matter where he starts he always ends up in the same place...the quarterbacks chin
<--------
Or an offensive tackles nutsack.
Quote from: ice grillin you on September 20, 2006, 08:05:13 PM
arnaz battle is my sleeper fantasy player of the week
:-D :-D :-D
I'm swinging karma in the Eagles' favor by playing Alex Smith.
Quote from: ice grillin you on September 20, 2006, 08:17:44 PM
killa cole will merk heads from any point...no matter where he starts he always ends up in the same place...the quarterbacks chin
<--------
He just better not tire his ass out.
Quote from: Susquehanna Birder on September 20, 2006, 08:33:54 PM
I'm swinging karma in the Eagles' favor by playing Alex Smith.
I dropped Jake Plummer for him in one league.
that is incredibly accurate. <---- (ha! nice filter)
Everybody assumes Cole is going to tire out because of last season. The dude was a rookie. He hit a rookie wall. It has nothing to do with tiring out. Lineman watched tape and most likely adjusted on how to go up against him. He's smarter now, developed new moves and put on a lot of muscle in the offseason. Tiring out should be the least of the worries. He's still going to rotate a lot. He won't get that many more snaps than he got the first two games. He'll get more, but not a significant amount.
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on September 20, 2006, 08:13:17 PM
I would've started McDougle
Even with the great rotation in mind, you should be beaten with a sack of doorknobs.
Quote from: General_Failure on September 20, 2006, 09:35:45 PM
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on September 20, 2006, 08:13:17 PM
I would've started McDougle
Even with the great rotation in mind, you should be beaten with a sack of doorknobs.
That's too kind a fate.
All of you bitches will rue the day you doubted my boy McDougle!
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on September 20, 2006, 10:24:41 PM
All of you bitches will rue the day you doubted my boy McDougle!
Reggie Brown is the next Chad Johnson. Donte's just stunting his development!!
Thats right.
Damn that Donte. Friggin' team cancer...
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on September 20, 2006, 10:24:41 PM
All of you bitches will rue the day you doubted my boy McDougle!
it's just all a part of his 7 year plan to eventually get a sack in an NFL game
*Cue someone posting a picture of McDougle sacking a deer-in-the-headlights rookie who just grew up to hand the Eagles the worst loss ever.*
I think SunMo meant his first MEANINGFUL sack.
mcdougle hit eli hard once.
And Eli said "Touch me again and I'll kill you."
starting your 2 best DE's regardless of what side is the best choice
Quote from: Sgt PSN on September 21, 2006, 09:37:58 AM
And Eli said "Touch me again and I'll kill you."
Apparently McDougle doesn't want to get his nose knocked into his brain.
Spadaro and IGY finally agree on something (http://www.philadelphiaeagles.com/news/newsDetail.jsp?id=55813)
its way too late....the killa bandwagon is FULL
Quote from: ice grillin you on September 20, 2006, 08:05:13 PM
arnaz battle is my sleeper fantasy player of the week
you mean it is the footballguys.com top WR sleeper of the week.
it mgiht be
but igy>>>>footballguys
anyway its not real tough to look and see who joselio hanson is covering this week
Quote from: ice grillin you on September 21, 2006, 12:22:05 PM
maybe
but igy>>>>footballguys
why havnt you picked up Battle in the CF fantasy football league. :=)
i actually did in two of my leagues...the other two including CF i dont have a player that i would drop for him
and now i did in CF and i am starting him sucka
In a desperate move in a league I missed the draft for, I picked him up. I'm also starting Alex Smith.
Eskin said that Kearse's MCL is completely torn and the other 2 ligaments are only partial tears.
Quote from: Bunkley78 on September 21, 2006, 03:22:13 PM
Eskin said that Kearse's MCL is completely torn and the other 2 ligaments are only partial tears.
Dr. Eskin?
Quote from: Bunkley78 on September 21, 2006, 03:22:13 PM
Eskin said that Kearse's MCL is completely torn and the other 2 ligaments are only partial tears.
Whatever.
Quote from: Bunkley78 on September 21, 2006, 03:22:13 PM
Eskin said that Kearse's MCL is completely torn and the other 2 ligaments are only partial tears.
ESKIN!! ::) ::)
He got the info from a team source obviously.
He reads it off the back of a pack of onion rings.
eskin is a sickening eagle and andy lackey...but because of that he gets tons of inside info and when it comes to eagle inside info hes 99% correct on it as hes getting it directly from them...its ironic that the people on this board would rip someone like that
they remember him for his few, albeit huge, misses. i.e. "The Phillies will not trade for Billy Wagner"
hes hit or miss on all other teams...but not the eagles
he was totally wrong on TO's injury.
i didnt say he was 100% right....hes almost always right when it comes to them...he is lung deep on andys sack and because of that he gets spoon fed lots of info....
It's not that I don't believe Eskin's specifics. I just don't care.
I'm not a big fan of Eskin. He holds grudges and has unnecessary biases against certain players, coaches, and teams. But he does hit on a lot of info and the people who always say he never gets anything always point to one thing and that is the Billy Wagner thing.
That was his personal opinion and not inside info. He doesn't have many sourced within the Phillies. But with the Eagles, he does have a lot of contacts. You can tell like IGY said on the air he constantly buries his head in their nuts.
Quote from: ice grillin you on September 21, 2006, 12:24:59 PM
i actually did in two of my leagues...the other two including CF i dont have a player that i would drop for him
Must've been a tough call to decide to drop Ladell Betts, eh?
lets just say im still hurting
Quote from: Bunkley78 on September 21, 2006, 09:02:48 PM
I'm not a big fan of Eskin. He holds grudges and has unnecessary biases against certain players, coaches, and teams. But he does hit on a lot of info and the people who always say he never gets anything always point to one thing and that is the Billy Wagner thing.
That was his personal opinion and not inside info. He doesn't have many sourced within the Phillies. But with the Eagles, he does have a lot of contacts. You can tell like IGY said on the air he constantly buries his head in their nuts.
bullshtein. He claimed his SOURCES told him that there was no chance in hell Wagner was coming to Philly.
Anyone who defends this piece of shtein should be embarrassed.
Quote from: PhillyGirl on September 22, 2006, 08:45:06 AM
Anyone who defends this piece of shtein should be embarrassed.
But anyone who gets angry every time his opinion is reported on :CF... now those people are teh winnArs.
Give it a rest. We get it.
Quote from: FFatPatt on September 22, 2006, 09:06:20 AM
now those people are teh winnArs.
Give it a rest. We get it.
Yes, please internet dork, give it a rest.
You first. Let one or two Eskin report posts slip through without a comment. See how it works out.
Thats like you letting one of my Penn State sucks posts go through. good luck on that. :crazy
Quote from: MURP on September 22, 2006, 10:03:28 AM
Thats like you letting one of my Penn State sucks posts go through. good luck on that. :crazy
I'll tell you what. After tomorrow's game, you've got a free pass for a few days. Use it wisely.
i'll be watching the psu game tomorrow at the same bar back in PA that I was at for their one loss last year. so it's already over.
Is the bar in Reading?
2nd story lounge says Matty.
Talley Hoe
The Male Box?
:-D
Jay Glazer reported on the FOX pregame that Kearse tore his MCL, partially tore his ACL and PCL, popped his hamstring tendon, dislocated his kneecap and cracked his tibia, and he was "a quarter rotation away from a career-ending injury"...
Jesus christ. :o :o
After hearing that I'm not so sure we can bank on Kearse being a productive player for the Eagles ever again.
FOX Sports Link (http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/5996414)
QuoteFOX NFL Sunday and FOXSports.com have learned the extent of Pro Bowl DE Jevon Kearse's knee injury and it includes damage more than simply to a few ligaments. Kearse completely tore his medial collateral ligament (MCL) but suffered partial tears to his LCL (lateral collateral ligament) and PCL (posterior cruciate ligament). The damage unfortunately wasn't confined to the ligaments as Kearse also popped his hamstring tendon, strained his quadriceps tendon, dislocated his knee cap, fractured his tibia and tore the capsule that holds it all together.
Sounds terrible and it certainly is but had Kearse's knee been twisted for another second or one more degree in rotation he risked coming awfully close to becoming Robert Edwards. Edwards, you will remember, completely tore his knee playing beach football after a stunning rookie season for the Patriots years ago. He worked for years to come back and caught on with the 'Fins but never became a starting-caliber back again.
Had Kearse torn his ACL, basically, the entire knee would have been ripped and completely dislocated one part of his leg from the other. But because it stayed put, there is actually a chance he could be up and going for next year's camp. Remember, this is the same staff who got Terrell Owens back on the field for the Super Bowl with a major-league messed up ankle
But other than that he's OK, right?
After hearing that I'm not so sure we can bank on Kearse being a productive player for the Eagles ever again.
that was the case the minute he was put on IR
Good thing they've still got McDougle.
Anyone starting to miss Jevon yet??
I miss Tapeh, but he's not injured.
Quote from: shorebird on September 24, 2006, 06:13:21 PM
Anyone starting to miss Jevon yet??
we had 2 or 3 sacks on a very elusive QB. correct me if im wrong. i'd say thats pretty good. we should of had him 5 or 6 times. I think we're par for course.
andy reid on the other hand needs to be cut! :-D
Where did Glazer get this info that the Eagles couldn't get it? Or did the Eagles just lie about the report?
told everyone the minute they promoted scrub fox that hood was playing this game
but you also pimped Battle to no end
no...footballguys.com did
Quote from: ice grillin you on September 24, 2006, 09:34:18 PM
no...footballguys.com did
Quotearnaz battle is my sleeper fantasy player of the week
Quoteit mgiht be
but igy>>>>footballguys
anyway its not real tough to look and see who joselio hanson is covering this week
the Runningblax 126.88
Ol' Puddin Head 106.29
Quote from: ice grillin you on September 24, 2006, 09:20:22 PM
told everyone the minute they promoted scrub fox that hood was playing this game
you also said san fran would keep it close
Quote from: ice grillin you on September 24, 2006, 09:42:09 PM
the Runningblax 126.88
Ol' Puddin Head 106.29
what, did you purchase stat tracker?
i said no such thing...i said the final would be 31-28...its not like it was 31-0...is this is what its come too...tracking igy's game predictions....
youre making me blush
no its just to point out that you have zero faith in the team and your opinions are pretty much useless
Dawk said he is playing next week.
I'm glad you put that in the Kearse thread. Thanks.
Dawk said Kearse is playing next week? Is he going to tear his own leg off and beat opposing players with it, because I may have to find a barstool to sit on and watch that bit of entertainment.
Stupid London.
what, did you purchase stat tracker?
yeah its a no brainer...$10 for the whole year and i get it for all four of my teams
Eskin reporting that Kearse will have surgery in Florida tomorrow by the same Doc that repaired McGahee's knee. Early speculation is if surgery goes as planned he should be ready by camp next season.
Power or Prayer.
Hell, it worked for Alexander.....
Whether he's ready for camp or not will have absolutely zero impact on the Eagles. We've seen the last of Javon Kearse.
We can always trade him to the Vikings for Wilbur.
Quote from: rjs246 on September 28, 2006, 01:35:34 AM
Whether he's ready for camp or not will have absolutely zero impact on the Eagles. We've seen the last of Javon Kearse.
Why do you say that? You don't think he may restructure his contract?
Quote from: rjs246 on September 28, 2006, 01:35:34 AM
Whether he's ready for camp or not will have absolutely zero impact on the Eagles. We've seen the last of Javon Kearse.
That's cool. At least we'll still have Jevon Kearse.
Good news on the Kearse front. (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2606669)
QuoteDamage to Kearse's knee not as bad as first feared
By Len Pasquarelli
ESPN.com
In the wake of reports that the left knee injury suffered by the Philadelphia Eagles' Jevon Kearse on Sept. 17 included tears to three of four ligaments and ancillary involvement termed "severe," the star defensive end underwent surgery Thursday that revealed the damage was not nearly so catastrophic and that the rehabilitation for the eighth-year veteran will not be as daunting as originally anticipated.
In fact, the only repair made by renowned Miami-based orthopedic surgeon Dr. John Uribe during the Thursday procedure was to the lateral meniscus cartilage. In terms of what was reported about the injury in the days after it occurred, the meniscus damage is considered relatively benign.
Kearse did suffer a fracture to his left tibia, but that injury required only casting, not surgery.
Uribe did not have to address the ligaments, the kneecap or quadriceps at all during the procedure.
"So we're probably talking, according to Dr. Uribe, about a 12-week rehabilitation period," agent Drew Rosenhaus told ESPN.com on Thursday night. "That still means Jevon would not have been able to play again, under the best circumstances, until the very end of the season. So I can't fault the Eagles for putting him on injured reserve and ending his season. But certainly, for everyone concerned, this is great news. It means he should be back on the field next spring for all of the offseason conditioning."
Kearse was injured late in the second game of the season, an overtime loss to the New York Giants, and Eagles officials feared catastrophic damage to the knee.
Broadcast and published reports indicated that Kearse had suffered a complete tear of the medial collateral ligament, partial tears of the lateral collateral and posterior cruciate ligaments, a dislocated kneecap, a torn knee capsule, a strained quadriceps tendon and a strained hamstring.
In light of those reports, there were intimations that, because of the severity of the injury, an extended recovery period, and Kearse's scheduled base salary of $5.2 million for 2007 and lofty salary cap charge, Philadelphia might release him. That likely won't be the case, however, given Thursday's results.
In his two appearances this season, Kearse had notched 3 ½ sacks and appeared well on his way to his first double-digit sack campaign since 2001, when he was with the Tennessee Titans. After the Eagles recorded only 29 sacks in 2005, defensive coordinator Jim Johnson vowed to re-energize the team's pass rush, and the utilization of Kearse in a variety of roles was part of that plan.
With Kearse sidelined, right end Darren Howard has moved to the left side and second-year veteran Trent Cole joined the lineup at right end. Philadelphia is tied for the league lead in sacks, with 16.
Kearse, 30, was the Titans' first-round choice in the 1999 draft, was named defensive rookie of the year that season, and registered 36 sacks his first three years before injuries curtailed his production. In his first two years in Philadelphia -- which signed him as an unrestricted free agent in 2004, awarding him a contract that made him the NFL's highest-paid end at the time -- Kearse had 7 ½ sacks each season.
dont know how it will pan out but good news.
I can't wait until the next report. I love seeing what new stuff they can say about his knee every day.
but...eskin said......
Billy Wagner won't be a Phillie. No way.
thats the same medical staff that gave the inside scoop on TOs ankle injury, right?
Quote from: Drunkmasterflex on September 28, 2006, 09:37:31 AM
Quote from: rjs246 on September 28, 2006, 01:35:34 AM
Whether he's ready for camp or not will have absolutely zero impact on the Eagles. We've seen the last of Javon Kearse.
Why do you say that? You don't think he may restructure his contract?
No. Why would he do that? To make less money? Not likely.
If Trent Cole proves that he can be an every down guy and not wear down...then I'm not too worried about Kearse's future in the long run.
But, if he is gone next year, that means another first day pick will be spent on a DE, unless they pick someone up in FA.
So with Hood and Kearse not coming back next year...that's two first day picks devoted to defense. There goes everyone's hope for a big back.
Anyone that seriously expect this team to draft a any RB over 215 lbs on the first day of the draftneeds to be taken out back and be put down.
Good news.
Quote from: General_Failure on September 29, 2006, 02:10:26 AM
Anyone that seriously expect this team to draft a any RB over 215 lbs on the first day of the draftneeds to be taken out back and be put down.
And yet....we'll have to deal with those people come draft day. :boom
Thats about as good of news as one could hope for. After watching his knee bend and the fact that he was battling dehydration its a minor miracle that there was nothing more seriuosly wrong with him.
Quote from: SD_Eagle on September 29, 2006, 06:50:25 AM
Thats about as good of news as one could hope for. After watching his knee bend and the fact that he was battling dehydration its a minor miracle that there was nothing more seriuosly wrong with him.
That's another thing I don't understand about NFL teams. They pay millions of dollars for their players. They pay millions more to have the most advanced medical personel and equipment available to them for training and treatment. They have large medical staffs on duty for each and every game. And yet somehow, these professional atheltes who have been playing sports their entire lives get dehydrated. How does that happen?! You don't need a doctor to be hovering over you to know how to keep yourself hydrated or to realize the importance of hydration when competing. Every 10 year old who has ever played baseball/soccer/any sport knows that they need to stay hydrated, but grown men with a full time medical staff surrounding them can't keep themselves from drying out?! Doesn't make a lick of sense to me.
Quote from: Munson on September 29, 2006, 01:42:42 AM
If Trent Cole proves that he can be an every down guy and not wear down...then I'm not too worried about Kearse's future in the long run.
But, if he is gone next year, that means another first day pick will be spent on a DE, unless they pick someone up in FA.
So with Hood and Kearse not coming back next year...that's two first day picks devoted to defense. There goes everyone's hope for a big back.
the problem here is that there is not one eagle that plays on the D Line or as a Linebacker that can play every down. from camp on...they are conditioned to rotate in and out.
which is why all any team has to do is go no huddle and jim johnsons defense is beatable, because no one is conditioned on this team to play 4 or 5 plays in a row.
Quote from: General_Failure on September 29, 2006, 02:10:26 AM
Anyone that seriously expect this team to draft a any RB over 215 lbs on the first day of the draftneeds to be taken out back and be put down.
I guess you had better get the gun then.
You seriously expect that? Ha! Next you'll tell me it'll be in the first round too.
Quote from: rjs246 on September 29, 2006, 06:55:39 AMThey pay millions more to have the most advanced medical personel and equipment available to them for training and treatment.
No kidding. I read in the current edition of Wired (swiped from the mail room) that the Eagles give players a pill before the game that contains a thermostat that is readable by radio frequency (or some techno mumbo jumbo), so the team can
minotor monitor core body temperature through the game.
are you talking about the thing that sends an electric shock thru andys body whenever he calls a running play
LOL IGY
well considering the defense was on the field almost the entire 3rd quarter, I'd say Reid is to blame for the dehydration :puke
Quote from: FFatPatt on September 29, 2006, 09:19:59 AM
You seriously expect that? Ha! Next you'll tell me it'll be in the first round too.
He said first 3 rounds, I would doubt it would be in the first round. Unless they keep Buck and want to rely on his knee again I wouldn't see it out of the realm of possibilities.
Dreamweaver - I believe you can get me through the night.
Andy hasn't drafted a "big back" in his entire time here (outside of Tapeh who was drafted to play FB). Why do you think it'll be any different next year?
Quote from: EagleFeva on September 29, 2006, 12:05:09 PM
Andy hasn't drafted a "big back" in his entire time here (outside of Tapeh who was drafted to play FB). Why do you think it'll be any different next year?
Because Andy Reid knows how to identify his mistakes and correct them immediately.
haha
I know no one likes to admit it but Buck is a 'big back', at 6'0 220 he's roughly the same size as Corey Dillon.
Quote from: SD_Eagle on September 29, 2006, 12:23:05 PM
I know no one likes to admit it but Buck is a 'big back', at 6'0 220 he's roughly the same size as Corey Dillon.
This is exactly what I was thinking reading the last page or so of this thread. Wasn't he even bigger than that when he was drafted?
Then again he was drafted in the fourth round so the arguement still holds.
Quote from: Diomedes on September 29, 2006, 09:25:55 AM
Quote from: rjs246 on September 29, 2006, 06:55:39 AMThey pay millions more to have the most advanced medical personel and equipment available to them for training and treatment.
No kidding. I read in the current edition of Wired (swiped from the mail room) that the Eagles give players a pill before the game that contains a thermostat that is readable by radio frequency (or some techno mumbo jumbo), so the team can minotor monitor core body temperature through the game.
Yep. The person who developed that is either from West Chester or works for West Chester University - can't recall which. All the trainers have to do is walk up to the player with the device and squeeze the trigger and it gives them the core temp.
The next thing they need to do is get those water cooled shoulder pads like Dallas uses.
As for the dehydration thing - its something that I never understood either. But it happens leaguewide. And the weird thing is that it happens in even mild conditions. I guess they use up so much electrolytes that they simply cannot replace them fast enough orally. So short of hooking 'em up to an IV after each series I guess there snot much they can do.
Electrolyte enemas. Everyone get in line.
Healthy and refreshing. Double sweet!
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on September 29, 2006, 01:10:41 PM
Quote from: Diomedes on September 29, 2006, 09:25:55 AM
Quote from: rjs246 on September 29, 2006, 06:55:39 AMThey pay millions more to have the most advanced medical personel and equipment available to them for training and treatment.
No kidding. I read in the current edition of Wired (swiped from the mail room) that the Eagles give players a pill before the game that contains a thermostat that is readable by radio frequency (or some techno mumbo jumbo), so the team can minotor monitor core body temperature through the game.
Yep. The person who developed that is either from West Chester or works for West Chester University - can't recall which. All the trainers have to do is walk up to the player with the device and squeeze the trigger and it gives them the core temp.
which explains why McDougle didnt dress for 2 games.
Quote from: Wingspan on September 29, 2006, 01:15:10 PM
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on September 29, 2006, 01:10:41 PM
Quote from: Diomedes on September 29, 2006, 09:25:55 AM
Quote from: rjs246 on September 29, 2006, 06:55:39 AMThey pay millions more to have the most advanced medical personel and equipment available to them for training and treatment.
No kidding. I read in the current edition of Wired (swiped from the mail room) that the Eagles give players a pill before the game that contains a thermostat that is readable by radio frequency (or some techno mumbo jumbo), so the team can minotor monitor core body temperature through the game.
Yep. The person who developed that is either from West Chester or works for West Chester University - can't recall which. All the trainers have to do is walk up to the player with the device and squeeze the trigger and it gives them the core temp.
which explains why McDougle didnt dress for 2 games.
:-D He ran for cover
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on September 29, 2006, 01:10:41 PMThe next thing they need to do is get those water cooled shoulder pads like Dallas uses.
Indy uses them as well, iirc.
Quote from: rjs246 on September 29, 2006, 06:55:39 AM
Quote from: SD_Eagle on September 29, 2006, 06:50:25 AM
Thats about as good of news as one could hope for. After watching his knee bend and the fact that he was battling dehydration its a minor miracle that there was nothing more seriuosly wrong with him.
That's another thing I don't understand about NFL teams. They pay millions of dollars for their players. They pay millions more to have the most advanced medical personel and equipment available to them for training and treatment. They have large medical staffs on duty for each and every game. And yet somehow, these professional atheltes who have been playing sports their entire lives get dehydrated. How does that happen?! You don't need a doctor to be hovering over you to know how to keep yourself hydrated or to realize the importance of hydration when competing. Every 10 year old who has ever played baseball/soccer/any sport knows that they need to stay hydrated, but grown men with a full time medical staff surrounding them can't keep themselves from drying out?! Doesn't make a lick of sense to me.
the answer..........................
PICKLE JUICE
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