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Title: Car to dance?
Post by: Diomedes on March 25, 2006, 01:01:38 PM
Isuzu (http://www.steelcitysfinest.com/Isuzu.htm)

Saab (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=8521999166042642874&q=saab)

Bonus clip:
Mustang dances with Crown Vics, briefly. (http://www.ebaumsworld.com/mustangspin.html)
Title: Re: Car to dance?
Post by: Sgt PSN on March 25, 2006, 01:40:04 PM
The Saab one was a little long for me and the music started to put me to sleep. 
Title: Re: Car to dance?
Post by: Susquehanna Birder on March 25, 2006, 02:17:20 PM
Nice driving in that stang one.
Title: Re: Car to dance?
Post by: mussa on March 25, 2006, 02:44:13 PM
wow that guy must have been a race car driver.  thats some video game shtein right there in the mustang. :yay
Title: Re: Car to dance?
Post by: Diomedes on March 25, 2006, 03:27:54 PM
IMO, the best driving is in the Isuzu commercial.
Title: Re: Car to dance?
Post by: Sgt PSN on March 25, 2006, 03:30:52 PM
Quote from: Diomedes on March 25, 2006, 03:27:54 PM
IMO, the best driving is in the Isuzu commercial.

That was pretty sweet, but it was rehearsed.  Mustang guy was all improv. 
Title: Re: Car to dance?
Post by: Diomedes on March 25, 2006, 03:32:34 PM
Oh, of course.  The criminal made a couple nice recoveries, no doubt.  But his skills don't compare to the people driving those Isuzus. 
Title: Re: Car to dance?
Post by: Sgt PSN on March 25, 2006, 03:35:05 PM
That's a given.  If he had those types of driving skills, he'd be off making car dancing commercials instead of boosting a rustang. 
Title: Re: Car to dance?
Post by: Feva on March 25, 2006, 04:08:55 PM
That's some ol' San Andreas type shtein in that Mustang video...  :yay
Title: Re: Car to dance?
Post by: Diomedes on March 25, 2006, 10:13:52 PM
These guys put a Suzuki GSX-R 1000 power plant in a Mercedes Smart car.

link (http://media.putfile.com/Diablo-19mb)

Best donuts ever.
Title: Re: Car to dance?
Post by: PhillyPhanInDC on March 25, 2006, 10:55:43 PM

IS 300 makes small, smokey circles.
(http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-834307622286511306&q=Donuts)
Title: Re: Car to dance?
Post by: MURP on March 26, 2006, 01:09:08 AM
what the hell was with the flying Isuzu cars.  ha.
Title: Re: Car to dance?
Post by: Sgt PSN on March 26, 2006, 01:54:22 AM
Quote from: Diomedes on March 25, 2006, 10:13:52 PM
These guys put a Suzuki GSX-R 1000 power plant in a Mercedes Smart car.

link (http://media.putfile.com/Diablo-19mb)

Best donuts ever.

Reminds me of the shtein I did with rc cars as a kid.

Quote from: PhillyPhaninDC on March 25, 2006, 10:55:43 PM

IS 300 makes small, smokey circles.
(http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-834307622286511306&q=Donuts)


Mom and dad are gonna be pretty pissed when they come home and see what Jr did to the driveway. 
Title: Re: Car to dance?
Post by: Susquehanna Birder on March 26, 2006, 10:04:16 AM
Quote from: Diomedes on March 25, 2006, 10:13:52 PM
These guys put a Suzuki GSX-R 1000 power plant in a Mercedes Smart car.

Interesting concept.
Title: Re: Car to dance?
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on March 26, 2006, 10:23:56 AM
Quote from: Sgt PSN on March 25, 2006, 03:35:05 PM
That's a given.  If he had those types of driving skills, he'd be off making car dancing commercials instead of boosting a rustang. 

Don't disrespect the Mustang, son. Could get you hurt up in hurrrrr.
Title: Re: Car to dance?
Post by: rjs246 on March 26, 2006, 10:25:57 AM
You tell 'im, Phreak.
Title: Re: Car to dance?
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on March 26, 2006, 10:33:33 AM
Even though that was the chick's version of the Mustang (V-6), I gotta defend the pony car.

I miss not having one. Hopefully by this time next year I will have another one. Not as my daily driver, because living up here makes that almost impossible, but one to toy around with.

I would love to get an '03 Cobra. But they're too expensive to have as a weekend/summer car. Maybe I'll go get that '94/'95 Cobra I've always wanted.
Title: Re: Car to dance?
Post by: rjs246 on March 26, 2006, 10:34:54 AM
I miss mine too. The most recent GT and Cobra models bring tears to my eyes. farging beautiful.
Title: Re: Car to dance?
Post by: Susquehanna Birder on March 26, 2006, 12:00:15 PM
Heehee...one of my current rides:

(http://www.susbirder.com/car/post-wash.jpg)
Title: Re: Car to dance?
Post by: Geowhizzer on March 26, 2006, 01:06:21 PM
Here's what a poor teacher can afford:

(http://a332.g.akamai.net/f/332/936/12h/www.edmunds.com/media/roadtests/roadtest/01.kia.optima/01.kia.optima.f3-4.500.jpg)
Title: Re: Car to dance?
Post by: Sgt PSN on March 26, 2006, 02:39:48 PM
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on March 26, 2006, 10:23:56 AM
Quote from: Sgt PSN on March 25, 2006, 03:35:05 PM
That's a given.  If he had those types of driving skills, he'd be off making car dancing commercials instead of boosting a rustang. 

Don't disrespect the Mustang, son. Could get you hurt up in hurrrrr.

Don't get me wrong, I love older Mustangs and the newer ones.  Anything made between 1980 and 2003 is mostly crap though......thus, rustangs.  2004 was good because it's the 40th anniversary but 2005+ are sweet ass rides since they went old school on the design. 
Title: Re: Car to dance?
Post by: Sgt PSN on March 26, 2006, 02:42:44 PM
Quote from: rjs246 on March 26, 2006, 10:34:54 AM
I miss mine too. The most recent GT and Cobra models bring tears to my eyes. farging beautiful.

A friend of mine's dad just bought the new Mach 1.  It is absolutely b-e-a-utiful.  :drool  I can't wait for them to release the new Cobra this year. 
Title: Re: Car to dance?
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on March 27, 2006, 04:11:18 PM
Quote from: Sgt PSN on March 26, 2006, 02:39:48 PM
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on March 26, 2006, 10:23:56 AM
Quote from: Sgt PSN on March 25, 2006, 03:35:05 PM
That's a given.  If he had those types of driving skills, he'd be off making car dancing commercials instead of boosting a rustang. 

Don't disrespect the Mustang, son. Could get you hurt up in hurrrrr.

Don't get me wrong, I love older Mustangs and the newer ones.  Anything made between 1980 and 2003 is mostly crap though......thus, rustangs.  2004 was good because it's the 40th anniversary but 2005+ are sweet ass rides since they went old school on the design. 

I love the 1987-1993, 1994-1998 and 1999-2004 body styles. Not a huge fan of the older ones unless it's a '67 fastback like in Gone in 60 seconds. And the new ones haven't grown on me yet. I like the new engines but I do not like the interior, the rear lights and the gauge clusters.

I've owned 5 Mustangs. A 1987GT, 1989LX hatchback, 1991GT, 1994GT and a 1992 LX notchback.

Next up  a 1994 Cobra

(http://www.airportautos.com/images/94cobra3_small.jpg)

or a

1996 Mystic Cobra

(http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/Speedway/4351/mymystic.jpg)
Title: Re: Car to dance?
Post by: Sgt PSN on March 27, 2006, 06:40:11 PM
The body styles on those cars do nothing for me.  They look kind of like a deformed egg.  But I'm not the one who has to drive it, so more power to ya. 
Title: Re: Car to dance?
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on March 27, 2006, 06:41:56 PM
That's right. :)

The 87-93 bodystyles are even better. The Fox Bodies are the boxy ones.
Title: Re: Car to dance?
Post by: PhillyPhanInDC on March 27, 2006, 06:54:16 PM

I've had a Mustang, and while fun, I'd give anything to have my old black Buick back...*
(http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=837288354629193352&q=Grand+National&pl=true)


(http://www.hemmings.com/images/carshow/06_20suddiw.jpg)*




* Neither of these are mine. My 87 was stolen about six years ago and totaled  >:(
Title: Re: Car to dance?
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on March 27, 2006, 07:08:56 PM
I knew a guy who had a GN that was as quiet as a Camry but ran solid 11's in the 1/4. It was very nice. :yay
Title: Re: Car to dance?
Post by: Susquehanna Birder on March 27, 2006, 08:23:01 PM
Phreak, I like my GT for sure, but I would also like a Cobra. I would maybe like to try some autocrossing, and the solid rear axle on the GT isn't good for that. It does go pretty well in a straight line, though.   >:D

I (distant) friend of mine works in a Ford dealership, and he was floating the idea of working a fox body with some really crazy mods. If I had the garage space (and more cash), I'd certainly think about it.
Title: Re: Car to dance?
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on March 27, 2006, 08:36:06 PM
Quote from: Susquehanna Birder on March 27, 2006, 08:23:01 PM
Phreak, I like my GT for sure, but I would also like a Cobra. I would maybe like to try some autocrossing, and the solid rear axle on the GT isn't good for that. It does go pretty well in a straight line, though.   >:D

I (distant) friend of mine works in a Ford dealership, and he was floating the idea of working a fox body with some really crazy mods. If I had the garage space (and more cash), I'd certainly think about it.

What year is yours, Sus? '04? I love that color. Gunmetal grey is it not?

Have you done anything to it?

I had a good friend in TX who autocrossed his and he had a blast with it. I couldn't tell you the first thing on how to set up the suspension and others mods for it because I was always doing the quarter mile thing.

But I do know that mostly everyone who I know who had one of the newer ones with the IRS hated it. One friend tore his out and put the solid axle back in there because of the enormous amount of wheel hop you get with the IRS.

The Fox's are the best to modify because the parts are relatively cheap because they are so popular.

The 94/95's are hard because that 5.0 engine and bodystyle combo was only done for 2 years.  I had about $10K invested in my '94GT nd it ran solid 12's.

There is nothing better than spending a Saturday in the garage working on a Mustang, drinking some beers and just hangin out.
Title: Re: Car to dance?
Post by: PhillyPhanInDC on March 27, 2006, 09:02:35 PM
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on March 27, 2006, 08:36:06 PM
There is nothing better than spending a Saturday in the garage working on a Mustang, drinking some beers and just hangin out.

(http://www.theitalianamericanconnection.com/cartags/Kc407.jpg)

You have one of these for a keychain....don't ya?
Title: Re: Car to dance?
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on March 27, 2006, 09:21:36 PM
I don't get it. :paranoid
Title: Re: Car to dance?
Post by: Susquehanna Birder on March 27, 2006, 09:27:40 PM
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on March 27, 2006, 08:36:06 PM
What year is yours, Sus? '04? I love that color. Gunmetal grey is it not?

It's an '02. The color is called "mineral gray." It has flecks of bronze-ish color that gives it a brown tint.


QuoteHave you done anything to it?

The previous owner put in a cold air induction setup. I did swap the stock shifter for a Steeda TriAx, but the rest I did is mostly cosmetic. I just took it to a local guy for inspection, and he asked me when I was going to let him put performance mufflers on it. That might be my next mod. After that, I'm thinking of lowering it, putting in more aggressive gears, and getting one of those handheld computer programmers.


QuoteI had a good friend in TX who autocrossed his and he had a blast with it. I couldn't tell you the first thing on how to set up the suspension and others mods for it because I was always doing the quarter mile thing.

But I do know that mostly everyone who I know who had one of the newer ones with the IRS hated it. One friend tore his out and put the solid axle back in there because of the enormous amount of wheel hop you get with the IRS.

Interesting. I'm just now learning the feel of the thing, and I think I could probably control the back end okay...but I'm curious how it wold work. Nice to know others have enjoyed it.


QuoteThere is nothing better than spending a Saturday in the garage working on a Mustang, drinking some beers and just hangin out.

Absolutely.
Title: Re: Car to dance?
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on March 27, 2006, 09:42:20 PM
Great choice with the TriAx. I had one and loved it. I switched from a Pro50 to the Steeda and it was awesome.

What kind of cold air unit did he put on there? Is it the fenderwell mounted one? Did he upgrade the MAF sensor along with it? I had a BBK fenderwell one and it looks sweet when its tucked into the well.

What kind of mufflers are you thinking about? I am partial to the Flowmasters (2 chamber - 40 series). They are loud. But if youre looking for a more mellow sound at low RPM but one that really opens up at high RPM the Borla kits are nice. The x-pipes are sweet as hell too.

I had 3:55 gears in the '94 for a long time because of the supercharger I had. But then I upgraded to 4:10's. They were too much for highway driving too high of a rpm @ 70mph. The 3:73's are the best because they give you that ass-in-the-seat feel and are good on gas at the same time. I would recommend only using the Ford brand gears when you do upgrade.

Damn...I gotta get another one. All of this talk has me missing my ride.
Title: Re: Car to dance?
Post by: Susquehanna Birder on March 27, 2006, 10:20:37 PM
LOL...the CAI is a little bit of a mystery. I see no markings on it. A guy on one of the Mustang forums said it might be a MAC, but I don't know. Looks like the stock MAF.

(http://www.susbirder.com/car/cai2.jpg)

One thing that bugs me is that the air filter is one of those oval-shaped things rather than the smaller round filter. It has more surface area, but the downside is that I can't get the stupid thing out through the hole in the fender wall. I think I can reach up through the wheel well...but it's going to be a pain.

I was considering the Flowmaster catbacks, but this local guy (manager of a Midas shop, which is normally suspect, but I trust this guy because he's bailed me out of a number of issues) wants to just cut the stock mufflers off and put on some Raven mufflers. It did some searches, and I see mixed reviews about Ravens. I'm almost ready to jump on it just because of the convenience factor.

I'm definitely thinking 3.73s. All the nuts on the forums like 4.10s, but so many of them run automatics. With the 5-speed, I like the slightly longer ratio. Plus I don't want to hear all the screaming should I decided to take the thing on a long ride.

It's friggin' addicting, isn't it? 
Title: Re: Car to dance?
Post by: cmleary0919 on March 28, 2006, 02:42:54 AM
I'm not much for stang's myself, but theres nothing that sounds like a v8 mustang w/ SLP exhaust.
Title: Re: Car to dance?
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on March 28, 2006, 11:46:54 AM
QuoteOne thing that bugs me is that the air filter is one of those oval-shaped things rather than the smaller round filter. It has more surface area, but the downside is that I can't get the stupid thing out through the hole in the fender wall. I think I can reach up through the wheel well...but it's going to be a pain.

Actually it sounds like a BBK. The BBK that I had was the one that looks like what you described. But I got tired of going through the wheel well and I just got a MAC filter and put it on the BBK tubing.

(http://us.st11.yimg.com/store1.yimg.com/I/mustangtuning_1886_19756764)

That is the BBK kit for '96 -'04's.

Here is the K & N Filters website (http://www.knfilters.com/search/univcone.aspx). They have a bunch of universal fliters that are cone shaped and would be easier to use. You'd just have to meausre out the diameter of the tubing to make sure they have one that'll slip on the CAI kit.

QuoteI was considering the Flowmaster catbacks, but this local guy (manager of a Midas shop, which is normally suspect, but I trust this guy because he's bailed me out of a number of issues) wants to just cut the stock mufflers off and put on some Raven mufflers. It did some searches, and I see mixed reviews about Ravens. I'm almost ready to jump on it just because of the convenience factor.

I've never heard the Ravens. I knew a guy who worked at Midas in TX and he used to tell me how similar they sounded to the Flow's though. If you don't want to go with the Flowmaster catback kit you can just buy the Flowmaster mufflers and have them welded to the stock tailpipes. I went with the catback kit because I bought the chrome tailpipes. But with the way the exhaust comes out of the 99-04's having chrome might not be as big of a deal because you don't see the whole side of the pipes like you do on the 94-98's.

Here are the Flowmaster 40 series mufflers from the Flowmaster website (http://www.flowmastermufflers.com/products/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=3402). You'd probably find them cheaper from a place in the Muscle Mustangs and Fast Fords magazine though.

QuoteI'm definitely thinking 3.73s. All the nuts on the forums like 4.10s, but so many of them run automatics. With the 5-speed, I like the slightly longer ratio. Plus I don't want to hear all the screaming should I decided to take the thing on a long ride.

It's friggin' addicting, isn't it?

Yeah, the 73's are the safest option because they work well on the highway and they can give you enough low end push when riding around town. The 4:10s were great on the track but when I would be driving around town I would be in 5th gear when crusing from stop light to stop light.

Make sure when you have them changed you replace the speedo gear or else your speedometer will be off. You'd have to convert the rpm's to figure out how fast you are going. And it adds mileage to your odometer if the correct speedo gear is not used.

And it is terribly addicting. But in a good way. I used to buy parts every week. Something little with every paycheck when I was in HS and right out of school. Hell, when I was 15 I had a room full of bolt-on's and no car yet. 
Title: Re: Car to dance?
Post by: Susquehanna Birder on March 28, 2006, 01:01:56 PM
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on March 28, 2006, 11:46:54 AMHere is the K & N Filters website (http://www.knfilters.com/search/univcone.aspx). They have a bunch of universal fliters that are cone shaped and would be easier to use. You'd just have to meausre out the diameter of the tubing to make sure they have one that'll slip on the CAI kit.

Thanks. I was considering doing that, but I just haven't had the motivation yet. It's good to know it's fairly easy (once I get the old filter off, of course).


QuoteI knew a guy who worked at Midas in TX and he used to tell me how similar they sounded to the Flow's though.

The description I heard was that they sounded more like a glass pack. I'll have to think about it, for sure, because I do want better sound and performance, I don't want to piss off my neighbors. Not with the car, anyway.  ;)


QuoteMake sure when you have them changed you replace the speedo gear or else your speedometer will be off. You'd have to convert the rpm's to figure out how fast you are going. And it adds mileage to your odometer if the correct speedo gear is not used.

I won't need to change it if I get one of these:

(http://www.cjponyparts.com/Pictures/XCAL2.jpg)

It will let me reprogram the car to compensate for the new differential, as well as tweak some of the tuning parameters.   >:D

BTW...I'm about 10 miles away from a place called CJ Pony Parts (http://www.cjponyparts.com/Home.asp), and they install the stuff they sell, so I might be tempted to pack my car's jammies and send it on an overnight trip. ;)