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Title: Eagles/Giants - Post Game thread
Post by: SD_Eagle5 on November 20, 2005, 04:37:29 PM
Since none of you fargers wants to start it, here goes:

--Trent Cole is a beast
--Kearse had a good game
--Where have you gone Mr. Patterson?
--Sam Rayburn = 1 year wonder
--Hollis had a good game
--I hate being critical of Sheldon, but he flat out sucked on the Burress TD
--Michael Lewis is having his worse year as a pro
--Officiating was probably the worst I've seen this season
--Special Teams sucked ass again
--McMahon had a good second half
--Reggie Brown will be a stud
--Our O-line sucked major ass today
--LJ should have been utilized more in the first 3 quarters (they played together at Rutgers for crying out loud)
--Rod Hood is the slowest Kick Off Return man in NFL history
--Why is Cortez still taking up a roster spot?
--Why is Mahe still taking up a roster spot?
--Will McCants ever be a part of our offense?
--Wanted to see Lamar Gordon used more today -- The Giants were bent on stopping Westbrook
Title: Re: Eagles/Giants - Post Game thread
Post by: fansince61 on November 20, 2005, 04:38:58 PM
Agreed ;)
Title: Re: Eagles/Giants - Post Game thread
Post by: Feva on November 20, 2005, 04:39:08 PM
5 sacks between the two DE's.  The 1 impressive part of today's game.
Title: Re: Eagles/Giants - Post Game thread
Post by: General_Failure on November 20, 2005, 04:39:55 PM
Cut Akers and Cortez. bring back France.
Title: Re: Eagles/Giants - Post Game thread
Post by: General_Failure on November 20, 2005, 04:40:24 PM
Quote from: EagleFeva on November 20, 2005, 04:39:08 PM
5 sacks between the two DE's. The 1 impressive part of today's game.

With the number of injuries along the Giants line, I'm unimpressed.
Title: Re: Eagles/Giants - Post Game thread
Post by: General_Failure on November 20, 2005, 04:42:07 PM
Only one good thing (http://media.putfile.com/Banned-from-the-forum) came from this game.
Title: Re: Eagles/Giants - Post Game thread
Post by: pinoyboy2pt0 on November 20, 2005, 04:44:51 PM
If I was McCoy, I'd try my hardest to get cut.  Because once you're on the waiver wire, you have a better chance of playing for the Eagles on gameday.
Title: Re: Eagles/Giants - Post Game thread
Post by: hunt on November 20, 2005, 04:46:23 PM
time to draft mike lewis' replacement.
Title: Re: Eagles/Giants - Post Game thread
Post by: SD_Eagle5 on November 20, 2005, 04:47:45 PM
Quote from: mhunt on November 20, 2005, 04:46:23 PM
time to draft mike lewis' replacement.

I'm not giving up on him yet, but he's smoking crack if he thinks he's worth the money he's looking for.
Title: Re: Eagles/Giants - Post Game thread
Post by: fansince61 on November 20, 2005, 04:49:36 PM
Quote from: mhunt on November 20, 2005, 04:46:23 PM
time to draft mike lewis' replacement.

He's been great until this year(his contract year...ACK)...besides I don't want to buy a new jersey :o
Title: Re: Eagles/Giants - Post Game thread
Post by: Eaglez on November 20, 2005, 04:52:35 PM
Yeah, if Trent Cole continues his play then there really won't be a need to draft a stud DE. Instead, we need a difference making OLB.

I want more depth on the D-line, a better quality rotation, and a run stuffing DT.
Title: Re: Eagles/Giants - Post Game thread
Post by: Feva on November 20, 2005, 04:54:09 PM
Quote from: General_Failure on November 20, 2005, 04:40:24 PM
Quote from: EagleFeva on November 20, 2005, 04:39:08 PM
5 sacks between the two DE's. The 1 impressive part of today's game.

With the number of injuries along the Giants line, I'm unimpressed.
McKenzie was injured?
Title: Re: Eagles/Giants - Post Game thread
Post by: General_Failure on November 20, 2005, 04:56:23 PM
If he wasn't then he may have been the only one.
Title: Re: Eagles/Giants - Post Game thread
Post by: hbionic on November 20, 2005, 05:04:09 PM
How and when did shtein-o break his ankle?
Title: Re: Eagles/Giants - Post Game thread
Post by: General_Failure on November 20, 2005, 05:05:25 PM
He didn't, really. He just wanted to hear people bitch about Sheldon for a change.
Title: Re: Eagles/Giants - Post Game thread
Post by: hunt on November 20, 2005, 05:06:09 PM
Quote from: hbionic on November 20, 2005, 05:04:09 PM
How and when did shtein-o break his ankle?

his name is litoast.
Title: Re: Eagles/Giants - Post Game thread
Post by: SD_Eagle5 on November 20, 2005, 05:07:37 PM
Quote from: hbionic on November 20, 2005, 05:04:09 PM
How and when did shtein-o break his ankle?

When Burress (who was wide open) leaped in the air for a ball but had it go off his finger tips. Toast somehow wound up behind him and sort of stubbed/jammed/twisted/ (who the farg knows) his leg/ankle into the ground.
Title: Re: Eagles/Giants - Post Game thread
Post by: General_Failure on November 20, 2005, 05:08:34 PM
I like my version better.
Title: Re: Eagles/Giants - Post Game thread
Post by: SD_Eagle5 on November 20, 2005, 05:11:17 PM
Quote from: General_Failure on November 20, 2005, 05:08:34 PM
I like my version better.

Should I eat Mexican food tonight or should I just order pizza?
Title: Re: Eagles/Giants - Post Game thread
Post by: Feva on November 20, 2005, 05:11:29 PM
Quote from: hbionic on November 20, 2005, 05:04:09 PM
How and when did shtein-o break his ankle?
Don't know how, but WEST is GOD was somwhere jumping for joy when it happened.  farger.

Quote from: WEST is GOD on November 20, 2005, 03:38:59 PM
Oh and good riddance Lito, I was laughing so hard when he went down. I hope the same happens to Lewis so we can get a real safety in there.
Title: Re: Eagles/Giants - Post Game thread
Post by: fansince61 on November 20, 2005, 05:12:57 PM
litoast can't cover Jabba the Hut
Title: Re: Eagles/Giants - Post Game thread
Post by: fansince61 on November 20, 2005, 05:14:40 PM
How can M. Lewis cover the TE, stop the run and pickup litoast's guy?
Title: Re: Eagles/Giants - Post Game thread
Post by: Diomedes on November 20, 2005, 05:26:43 PM
Quote from: General_Failure on November 20, 2005, 04:42:07 PM
Only one good thing (http://media.putfile.com/Banned-from-the-forum) came from this game.

That's brutal.  I can't event watch that shtein.
Title: Re: Eagles/Giants - Post Game thread
Post by: General_Failure on November 20, 2005, 05:30:59 PM
Quote from: SD_Eagle on November 20, 2005, 05:11:17 PM
Quote from: General_Failure on November 20, 2005, 05:08:34 PM
I like my version better.

Should I eat Mexican food tonight or should I just order pizza?

Learn to cook.
Title: Re: Eagles/Giants - Post Game thread
Post by: fansince61 on November 20, 2005, 05:33:09 PM
Quote from: SD_Eagle on November 20, 2005, 05:11:17 PM
Quote from: General_Failure on November 20, 2005, 05:08:34 PM
I like my version better.

Should I eat Mexican food tonight or should I just order pizza?

Mexican ;D  My FAVORITE ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Eagles/Giants - Post Game thread
Post by: BigEd76 on November 20, 2005, 05:33:50 PM
x-rays were negative on Litoast, MRI tomorrow.  Might be a high ankle sprain instead...

As for the game itself...meh....I realized 3 weeks ago that the season was over....
Title: Re: Eagles/Giants - Post Game thread
Post by: General_Failure on November 20, 2005, 05:34:23 PM
Told you he faked it. :D
Title: Re: Eagles/Giants - Post Game thread
Post by: BigEd76 on November 20, 2005, 05:36:59 PM
4:15 vs the Packers next week and it's no longer the main FOX game (Giants/Seahawks is).  It probably won't be seen outside the Wisconsin or Philly areas...
Title: Re: Eagles/Giants - Post Game thread
Post by: LBIggle on November 20, 2005, 05:38:16 PM
sad but true.. i didn't bother facing the walloping hangover i had.  plus now that i moved out to reno im not used to 10:00 games.  i didn't get up to watch so.. aw well.  doesn't sound like i missed anything anyway. who do we lose to next week?
Title: Re: Eagles/Giants - Post Game thread
Post by: Dillen on November 20, 2005, 05:38:23 PM
Quote from: BigEd76 on November 20, 2005, 05:36:59 PM
4:15 vs the Packers next week and it's no longer the main FOX game (Giants/Seahawks is).  It probably won't be seen outside the Wisconsin or Philly areas...
i dont get to see it, awesome.
actually, who the farg cares.
Title: Re: Eagles/Giants - Post Game thread
Post by: SD_Eagle5 on November 20, 2005, 06:03:43 PM
Quote from: fansince61 on November 20, 2005, 05:33:09 PM
Quote from: SD_Eagle on November 20, 2005, 05:11:17 PM
Quote from: General_Failure on November 20, 2005, 05:08:34 PM
I like my version better.

Should I eat Mexican food tonight or should I just order pizza?

Mexican ;D  My FAVORITE ;D ;D ;D

Italian's actually my favorite but I went with Mexican. Just got a California Burrito with sourcream and some chips & salsa from Santana's  :drool
Title: Re: Eagles/Giants - Post Game thread
Post by: fansince61 on November 20, 2005, 06:05:55 PM
Quote from: SD_Eagle on November 20, 2005, 06:03:43 PM
Quote from: fansince61 on November 20, 2005, 05:33:09 PM
Quote from: SD_Eagle on November 20, 2005, 05:11:17 PM
Quote from: General_Failure on November 20, 2005, 05:08:34 PM
I like my version better.

Should I eat Mexican food tonight or should I just order pizza?

Mexican ;D  My FAVORITE ;D ;D ;D

Italian's actually my favorite but I went with Mexican. Just got a California Burrito with sourcream and some chips & salsa from Santana's  :drool

Awesome..jealous :boom :boom
Title: Re: Eagles/Giants - Post Game thread
Post by: SD_Eagle5 on November 20, 2005, 06:25:25 PM
They forgot the sour cream  >:(
Title: Re: Eagles/Giants - Post Game thread
Post by: BigEd76 on November 20, 2005, 06:25:33 PM
With all the streaks that have been broken this year, is it actually possible that the Green Bay one of not winning here since 1962 could also be gone?  :-\
Title: Re: Eagles/Giants - Post Game thread
Post by: General_Failure on November 20, 2005, 06:27:03 PM
Favre won't let that happen.
Title: Re: Eagles/Giants - Post Game thread
Post by: fansince61 on November 20, 2005, 06:27:58 PM
Quote from: SD_Eagle on November 20, 2005, 06:25:25 PM
They forgot the sour cream  >:(

Drive by authorized >:D
Title: Re: Eagles/Giants - Post Game thread
Post by: SD_Eagle5 on November 20, 2005, 06:39:03 PM
Quote from: fansince61 on November 20, 2005, 06:27:58 PM
Quote from: SD_Eagle on November 20, 2005, 06:25:25 PM
They forgot the sour cream  >:(

Drive by authorized >:D

Them bastiches  ;D



Title: Re: Eagles/Giants - Post Game thread
Post by: SD_Eagle5 on November 20, 2005, 06:42:38 PM
Another person who deserves criticism is JJ. QBs are obviously reading his blitzes and exploiting them. He's done a lousy job of disguising his defensive schemes this season.

I hate being critical of him, but he deserves the blame.
Title: Re: Eagles/Giants - Post Game thread
Post by: Phillyiggles_fan on November 20, 2005, 06:45:02 PM
Is it just me or do teams really seems to be beating the blitz much better than last year for big gains?

Is that because we're  not (whoops forgot the not) getting close enough to the QB to hurry them or b/c our DB's are just looking like burnt toast partly b/c of the tighter Interference/holding enforcement.

I do think there's a lot more shootout this year b/c of the way referee's are calling games.  Just I don't think that's the Eagles only problem.
Title: Re: Eagles/Giants - Post Game thread
Post by: fansince61 on November 20, 2005, 06:45:31 PM
Quote from: SD_Eagle on November 20, 2005, 06:42:38 PM
Another person who deserves criticism is JJ. QBs are obviously reading his blitzes and exploiting them. He's done a lousy job of disguising his defensive schemes this season.

I hate being critical of him, but he deserves the blame.

Yup...I think the coaching staff has bought into the "Gold Standard" schtein too :puke :puke :puke
Title: Re: Eagles/Giants - Post Game thread
Post by: PoopyfaceMcGee on November 20, 2005, 09:24:45 PM
Anyone who's more upset with this team than they were last week is retarded.  They played a very good team on the road and played somewhat respectably.  It's a lot better than losing to a garbage team like the Skins or blowing a 13 point lead at home, right?  This loss was respectable, I say!  And no, it's not preposterous!

Hey, I enjoyed watching this game... no rapid heartbeat or anything.  Just relaxed and watched an OK game.

P.S.  McMahon got his stuff together nicely.  Reggie and Greg made some plays.  Our defense, or lack thereof at times, continues to be an absolute mystery.

GO BIRDS.
Title: Re: Eagles/Giants - Post Game thread
Post by: Geowhizzer on November 20, 2005, 09:32:38 PM
It was probably the most relaxed I've been watching an Eagles game in five years.  Heck, I barely paid attention to the fourth quarter and played with my son.

In some ways it was nice.

But mostly it was  :'(
Title: Re: Eagles/Giants - Post Game thread
Post by: MDS on November 20, 2005, 09:41:44 PM
Just got back from the game. It was a long farging day. I didn't get to sleep 'till like 4am last night thanks to USC game, and had to get up at 830 to go to game. But whatever. The game was fun to be at, well, at least parts of the second half. The end result of course sucked, but it was enjoyable to watch Michael Lewis set himself up for missing tackles and drawing pass interferences. Always a good time there.

Nothing too frisky happened in the stands. 5 sections over there was a fight that led to an Eagles Suck chant that died within seconds. Pretty funny that those hosers can't go anything going. Most of the anti-eagle stuff was about Mcnabb (which i defended) and TO (which i joined in). I attempted to start a Chuck Bednarik chant when Frank Gifford was blabbing on about whatever owner just died, but nobody picked up on it.

The traffic from the stadium is just awful, I have no idea how these people do it 8 times a season. But then again, there was a mass exodus after Plexiglass scored the TD, so it shows what real fans they have.

Akers was bootin 60 yarders in practice, then he misses a 38 yarder? That was the biggest shock to me, he had no trouble whatsoever in both pregame and halftime practices. McMahon looked okay, nothing special. Giants were very unimpressive like the Skins and Cowboys, yet Giant fans took this win as a sign of a superbowl trip.

Overall good fun, long ass ride, would've been a lot more fun if we werent so damn injured.
Title: Re: Eagles/Giants - Post Game thread
Post by: BigEd76 on November 20, 2005, 11:02:41 PM
Action News led off with "Nor'easter", then "Season Over?".  Rain > Eagles
Title: Re: Eagles/Giants - Post Game thread
Post by: MDS on November 20, 2005, 11:04:04 PM
ed, dont tell me you were watching greys anatomy  :-D
Title: Re: Eagles/Giants - Post Game thread
Post by: LBIggle on November 20, 2005, 11:16:49 PM
Quote from: fansince61 on November 20, 2005, 06:45:31 PM
Quote from: SD_Eagle on November 20, 2005, 06:42:38 PM
Another person who deserves criticism is JJ. QBs are obviously reading his blitzes and exploiting them. He's done a lousy job of disguising his defensive schemes this season.

I hate being critical of him, but he deserves the blame.

Yup...I think the coaching staff has bought into the "Gold Standard" schtein too :puke :puke :puke

looks more like rusty tin now an days then gold.

Title: Re: Eagles/Giants - Post Game thread
Post by: BigEd76 on November 20, 2005, 11:20:23 PM
Of course not...
Title: Re: Eagles/Giants - Post Game thread
Post by: MDS on November 20, 2005, 11:41:58 PM
sure. play it off all serious and cool.
Title: Re: Eagles/Giants - Post Game thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on November 21, 2005, 12:13:26 AM
Says the guy who's addicted to whats goin down on Wisteria Lane...
Title: Re: Eagles/Giants - Post Game thread
Post by: MDS on November 21, 2005, 12:17:46 AM
ha. i missed it tonight, but will surley download it when i get home and can use file sharing programs. but ed claims to be this sly cool dude and boom hes watching a chick show i dont even watch (roomates gf had it on when i came in).
Title: Re: Eagles/Giants - Post Game thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on November 21, 2005, 12:20:28 AM
Speaking of Grey's Anatomy...what the hell is that? I don't think I've ever even seen a commercial for it. The only sitcom I watch is King of Queens on occasion. Well...that & Simpsons/King of the Hill/Family Guy on Fox.
Title: Re: Eagles/Giants - Post Game thread
Post by: MDS on November 21, 2005, 12:23:03 AM
two things:

1. its a doctor show with luke wilsons love interest from old school. but its about relationships and stuff. zzzzzz. but apparantley its good.

2. i should hunt you down and kill you for watching drivel like the king of queens over arrested development. seriously.
Title: Re: Eagles/Giants - Post Game thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on November 21, 2005, 12:28:43 AM
I never got into Arrested. Tried to watch it once or twice but never grew on me.

KOQ is hilarious.

I just did a google on Grey's...isn't that chick from Arli$$ in it? Arli$$ kicked ass.
Title: Re: Eagles/Giants - Post Game thread
Post by: MDS on November 21, 2005, 12:38:26 AM
yes. one of the girls is from arliss, which happened to suck.

the arrested dvds are cheap, or you can download them. seriously, watch them in order. if you dont think its funny, then ill go wank off art or something. thats how confident i am in the comedy.
Title: Re: Eagles/Giants - Post Game thread
Post by: hbionic on November 21, 2005, 03:04:54 AM
I agree with Fast Freddie's post.

Wasn't expecting anything. It was fun at some points...like I really got excited to see Reggie pull that one in for a TD. I even had hope at one point...faint...but hope nonetheless.

At least I will not die during an eagles game...at least not this year anymore.

I have my sundays back.

Go Eagles.....let's reload for '06.  :'(
Title: Re: Eagles/Giants - Post Game thread
Post by: hbionic on November 21, 2005, 03:06:34 AM
Hey MDS...how is it out there at Giants stadium? Are the fans sissy's like the Rams and the Chiefs fans? Or will they actually talk shtein and throw things at you? It seems as though the Eagles fans travel best to Giants stadium and RFK or whatever the farg its called(assuming because of the distance)...was it at least 25% eagles fans there or less?
Title: Re: Eagles/Giants - Post Game thread
Post by: Don Ho on November 21, 2005, 03:20:35 AM
Quote from: hbionic on November 21, 2005, 03:04:54 AM
I agree with Fast Freddie's post.

Wasn't expecting anything. It was fun at some points...like I really got excited to see Reggie pull that one in for a TD. I even had hope at one point...faint...but hope nonetheless.

At least I will not die during an eagles game...at least not this year anymore.

I have my sundays back.

Go Eagles.....let's reload for '06.  :'(


I third that!  Can't believe what a difference a week makes.  Last Monday evening I walked out of my local sports pup screaming profanities in the parking lot and ready to drop any dweeb giving that "Cowboys!" yell.  Today, totally relaxed.  Got a little excited a few times, got a little pissed a few times but all in all pretty mellow.

I have to admit it was almost surreal watching the birds today.  Seeing McMahon behind center, a new center, Clarke playing guard, bunch of young receivers, new punter, new kicker was like watching a different team from a different year.  Lot of strange flashbacks - like "oh,oh!" :paranoid
Title: Re: Eagles/Giants - Post Game thread
Post by: Phillyiggles_fan on November 21, 2005, 05:54:40 AM
Quote from: hbionic on November 21, 2005, 03:06:34 AM
Hey MDS...how is it out there at Giants stadium? Are the fans sissy's like the Rams and the Chiefs fans? Or will they actually talk shtein and throw things at you? It seems as though the Eagles fans travel best to Giants stadium and RFK or whatever the farg its called(assuming because of the distance)...was it at least 25% eagles fans there or less?

Giants stadium is pretty decent place to see a game especially given it has been around awhile.

Getting out of that parking lot onto the NJTP/95 connection is like Russian Roulette though sometimes you get lucky, and sometimes you wish there was a bullet in that chamber.
Title: Re: Eagles/Giants - Post Game thread
Post by: Zanshin on November 21, 2005, 08:34:12 AM
Quote from: Phillyiggles_fan on November 21, 2005, 05:54:40 AM
Quote from: hbionic on November 21, 2005, 03:06:34 AM
Hey MDS...how is it out there at Giants stadium? Are the fans sissy's like the Rams and the Chiefs fans? Or will they actually talk shtein and throw things at you? It seems as though the Eagles fans travel best to Giants stadium and RFK or whatever the farg its called(assuming because of the distance)...was it at least 25% eagles fans there or less?

Giants stadium is pretty decent place to see a game especially given it has been around awhile.

Getting out of that parking lot onto the NJTP/95 connection is like Russian Roulette though sometimes you get lucky, and sometimes you wish there was a bullet in that chamber.

Getting out of Giants Stadium is bruuuuutal.  No matter where you're trying to go.
Title: Re: Eagles/Giants - Post Game thread
Post by: henchmanUK on November 21, 2005, 09:15:57 AM
Mike Lewis looked like Blaine Bishop with a broken leg yesterday. Giants fans are big-mouthed, front-running jerk-offs, too. :=)
Title: Re: Eagles/Giants - Post Game thread
Post by: Wingspan on November 21, 2005, 09:20:06 AM
i never say anything like this...but the refs completely farged the eagles yesterday. worst officiating i have ever seen.
Title: Re: Eagles/Giants - Post Game thread
Post by: henchmanUK on November 21, 2005, 09:22:59 AM
Quote from: Wingspan on November 21, 2005, 09:20:06 AM
i never say anything like this...but the refs completely farged the eagles yesterday. worst officiating i have ever seen.

To be fair to Mike Lewis, that first PI call was an absolute fargin' joke.
[extremeskins]THE LEAGUE IS RIGGED, THE LEAGUE IS RIGGED![/extremeskins]
Title: Re: Eagles/Giants - Post Game thread
Post by: Eaglez on November 21, 2005, 09:24:47 AM
I guess so. There were only 2 plays that I was pissed out. One was the 47 yard pass interference on Lewis that should have been a no call. He was going for the ball and has a right to fight for it. He as looking back and playing it. If anything it should have been offensive pass inteference.

Second, the raping in the endzone when LJ was going for the ball. They called the McMullen interference call but it was a no call for LJ because of what? The defender was clearly going through LJ to get the ball. Plenty of contact - too much for a no-call actually.

Other than that I couldn't think of any other calls.
Title: Re: Eagles/Giants - Post Game thread
Post by: Wingspan on November 21, 2005, 09:51:54 AM
Quote from: Eaglez on November 21, 2005, 09:24:47 AM
I guess so. There were only 2 plays that I was pissed out. One was the 47 yard pass interference on Lewis that should have been a no call. He was going for the ball and has a right to fight for it. He as looking back and playing it. If anything it should have been offensive pass inteference.

Second, the raping in the endzone when LJ was going for the ball. They called the McMullen interference call but it was a no call for LJ because of what? The defender was clearly going through LJ to get the ball. Plenty of contact - too much for a no-call actually.

Other than that I couldn't think of any other calls.

those are the two i was thinking of

i though Lewis was shafted on two PI calls. the one you mention, the one that set up that TD in the second half. (there were 2 calls on the play, and the one that was declined was the 5 yard illegal contact call).

that being said...litoast's partner SHELLED-ON Brown (ha ha...get it?!) has apparently forgotten how to play which didnt help anything.
Title: Re: Eagles/Giants - Post Game thread
Post by: Rome on November 21, 2005, 09:55:56 AM
The interference call on Lewis was an absolute disgrace.

If anything, it should have been an offensive penalty.

Whatever, though.  Bitching about the officiating won't change the fact that the defense got owned again at the worst possible times and by a kid who they absolutely destroyed last year.

Awful.

Title: Re: Eagles/Giants - Post Game thread
Post by: RezRob on November 21, 2005, 09:58:55 AM
I agree about the 2 bad calls, LJ was definitely raped! JJ needs to lighten up on 3rd down blitzes, especially if our corners repeatedley bite on double-moves. They could drop a linebacker to squat the slant route and let our corners stay over the top. Conversely our QBs whoever it is should watch how teams beat our blitz. McMahon almost had a Nabb-like Roy throw in the first half. AR get LJ running routes over the middle!

I live by GB and we better not lose to the Pack, they will be on short rest and traveling. If our home run D stays solid we should be alright.
Title: Re: Eagles/Giants - Post Game thread
Post by: henchmanUK on November 21, 2005, 10:03:10 AM
Quote from: Jerome99RIP on November 21, 2005, 09:55:56 AM
The interference call on Lewis was an absolute disgrace.

If anything, it should have been an offensive penalty.

Whatever, though.  Bitching about the officiating won't change the fact that the defense got owned again at the worst possible times and by a kid who they absolutely destroyed last year.

Awful.



I agree with this 100 percent.
Title: Re: Eagles/Giants - Post Game thread
Post by: MDS on November 21, 2005, 10:05:49 AM
they dont get violent, they just talk back. its not a big deal. like the rowdiest douche in my section was this typical loser fan with a personalized jersey. some idiot in a randall jersey a few sections over was acting like a complete dickhead, and had little pieces of popcorn thrown at him, but thats it.

it took us 90 minutes to get to the turnpike from the parking lot. not a lot of fun.
Title: Re: Eagles/Giants - Post Game thread
Post by: Purple_Hayz on November 21, 2005, 10:10:26 AM
Since we're piling on the refs let's not forget that fumble non-call. ;)

As for the D if I'm picking on anybody it's Jones (with Lito gimped up that situation has taken care of itself for now) because he sucks like a Dyson.  What JJ saw in him I'll never know because his blitzing is even more worthless than his coverage.  Watching Carlos Emmons have a good day while somewhat gimpy only rubbed salt in the wound.  >:(
Title: Re: Eagles/Giants - Post Game thread
Post by: henchmanUK on November 21, 2005, 10:15:35 AM
Seems to me that JJ brings it when he shouldn't and doesn't when he should an awful lot this season. ???
Title: Re: Eagles/Giants - Post Game thread
Post by: SunMo on November 21, 2005, 10:22:39 AM
the blitzes are much more predictable this year because teams are easily blocking the front four and waiting for the blitz.

previous years, they had a good Corey Simon pushing up the middle, Hugh, Burgess, and others coming from the ends.  then they could blitz with more of a surprise element.
Title: Re: Eagles/Giants - Post Game thread
Post by: Cerevant on November 21, 2005, 11:04:57 AM
Random thoughts:

1) Give Sheldon a break - he jumped the short route because the blitz was on - they shouldn't have had time to go deep.  It wasn't his fault that the blitz didn't even cause a hurry.  Maybe you guys are saying that the secondary should start assuming that the blitz won't work? 

2) The defense was bad, but not aweful.  Take back the blocked punt, and the TD off of the bullshtein PI penalty (which would have been an interception without the offensive PI) and the Giants score 13 points.  The game was closer than it looked.

3) I'm getting farging pissed off at the media missing the whole farging point of this TO bullshtein.  This isn't about whether or not the Eagles should play him, the money, or the severity of the penalty for conduct detremental...this is about a player getting free agency in the 2nd year of a 7 year deal by going to the media.  They have to find a way to stop this or we'll have an NHL situation on our hands where the contracts get out of control, and the NFL will lock out the players before the no-cap year in the CBA (2008?).

4) Is anyone really still shocked that the Eagles suck this year?  Take a look at the list of players who started or were significant contributors last year:

IR/PUP: Pinkston, Grasmanis, McDougle, JR Reed, Buckhalter, Fraley, Short, Dirk Johnson
Released / Suspended: Mitchell, Ritchie, Owens,
FA: Burgess, Simon
Playing with significant injury: McNabb, Akers

No one player from that list makes you say "now we're farged", but when that much of your linup has turned over in one year, it's gotta make you wonder...
Title: Re: Eagles/Giants - Post Game thread
Post by: SunMo on November 21, 2005, 11:08:31 AM
Quote from: Cerevant on November 21, 2005, 11:04:57 AM


2) The defense was bad, but not aweful.  Take back the blocked punt, and the TD off of the bullshtein PI penalty (which would have been an interception without the offensive PI) and the Giants score 13 points.  The game was closer than it looked.


that was the 1st half.  but in the second half, the Eagles offense got the game within 3 points 3 different times, and after everyone of those times, the defense let the Giants answer with a score, that's inexcusable for a team in a must win game.
Title: Re: Eagles/Giants - Post Game thread
Post by: bobbyinlondon on November 21, 2005, 11:21:53 AM
Quote from: Cerevant on November 21, 2005, 11:04:57 AM
Random thoughts:

1) Give Sheldon a break - he jumped the short route because the blitz was on - they shouldn't have had time to go deep.  It wasn't his fault that the blitz didn't even cause a hurry.  Maybe you guys are saying that the secondary should start assuming that the blitz won't work? 

2) The defense was bad, but not aweful.  Take back the blocked punt, and the TD off of the bullshtein PI penalty (which would have been an interception without the offensive PI) and the Giants score 13 points.  The game was closer than it looked.

3) I'm getting farging pissed off at the media missing the whole farging point of this TO bullshtein.  This isn't about whether or not the Eagles should play him, the money, or the severity of the penalty for conduct detremental...this is about a player getting free agency in the 2nd year of a 7 year deal by going to the media.  They have to find a way to stop this or we'll have an NHL situation on our hands where the contracts get out of control, and the NFL will lock out the players before the no-cap year in the CBA (2008?).

4) Is anyone really still shocked that the Eagles suck this year?  Take a look at the list of players who started or were significant contributors last year:

IR/PUP: Pinkston, Grasmanis, McDougle, JR Reed, Buckhalter, Fraley, Short, Dirk Johnson
Released / Suspended: Mitchell, Ritchie, Owens,
FA: Burgess, Simon
Playing with significant injury: McNabb, Akers

No one player from that list makes you say "now we're farged", but when that much of your linup has turned over in one year, it's gotta make you wonder...

I agree with No.3 100%. If the arbitrator also rules that a 4 game suspension is TOO HARSH, then you'll have players, starting with Chad Johnson next year, pulling Owens' stunts. He's already says he's going to hold out unless the Bengals re-do his contract that they gave him 2 seasons ago.
Title: Re: Eagles/Giants - Post Game thread
Post by: Purple_Hayz on November 21, 2005, 11:39:50 AM
When discussing the ineffective blitzing let us not forget that it's really easy to beat the blitz when chances are a receiver is going to be open because half of the secondary fellates llamas.
Title: Re: Eagles/Giants - Post Game thread
Post by: Cerevant on November 21, 2005, 11:57:27 AM
Quote from: Purple_Hayz on November 21, 2005, 11:39:50 AM
When discussing the ineffective blitzing let us not forget that it's really easy to beat the blitz when chances are a receiver is going to be open because half of the secondary fellates llamas.
I disagree.  If the blitz is working, the only way to beat it is with short plays.  The Eagles are getting beat deep on blitzes, which means the blitz isn't getting there.
Title: Re: Eagles/Giants - Post Game thread
Post by: Purple_Hayz on November 21, 2005, 11:37:46 PM
Quote from: Cerevant on November 21, 2005, 11:57:27 AM
Quote from: Purple_Hayz on November 21, 2005, 11:39:50 AM
When discussing the ineffective blitzing let us not forget that it's really easy to beat the blitz when chances are a receiver is going to be open because half of the secondary fellates llamas.
I disagree. If the blitz is working, the only way to beat it is with short plays. The Eagles are getting beat deep on blitzes, which means the blitz isn't getting there.
Yes of course, because the ineffectiveness is all about the blitzers not getting there.  The guys that don't blitz can just sit around with their thumbs up their collective asses because it's not like y'know they actually have to keep the receivers from a) running their route and b) getting open or anything, especially when the receivers are running deep.  I mean, these guys run 40 yards in under five seconds.  There's no need for the defense to concern themselves with covering and disrupting those deep routes or anything because there's no way they could get 15-20 yards downfield before a good blitz got to the QB, right? :P
Title: Re: Eagles/Giants - Post Game thread
Post by: Cerevant on November 22, 2005, 07:28:34 AM
Quote from: Purple_Hayz on November 21, 2005, 11:37:46 PM
Yes of course, because the ineffectiveness is all about the blitzers not getting there.  The guys that don't blitz can just sit around with their thumbs up their collective asses because it's not like y'know they actually have to keep the receivers from a) running their route and b) getting open or anything, especially when the receivers are running deep.  I mean, these guys run 40 yards in under five seconds.  There's no need for the defense to concern themselves with covering and disrupting those deep routes or anything because there's no way they could get 15-20 yards downfield before a good blitz got to the QB, right? :P
:-o

Does the term "hot read" mean nothing to you?  If a QB has 5 seconds to throw the ball, he has "all day".  A blitz should get to him in 1-2 seconds.  That gives your receiver running full speed in a straight line time to get 10-15 yards.  Sheppard jumped a 10 yard hitch and go on a play where he knew a blitz was called, so it should be likely that either a) the ball would be coming to his man fast, or b) the ball would be going somewhere else.
Title: Re: Eagles/Giants - Post Game thread
Post by: bobbyinlondon on November 22, 2005, 07:41:48 AM
Here's Brookover on his PLAYBACK segment in today's Inquirer:


Bad route

Weakside linebacker Keith Adams blitzed on the Giants' game-clinching touchdown pass from Eli Manning to Plaxico Burress. For some reason, however, he didn't make an inside move, and that gave Manning time to pump-fake. Sheldon Brown bit on the fake and Burress ran past him for the touchdown in the 27-17 Giants victory.

In Saturday's preview of the Sunday's game, they also talked about the Cowboys' game where the blitz failed to get there--it seems there was an unnamed player that WAS SUPPOSED TO BLITZ, BUT DIDN'T.
Title: Re: Eagles/Giants - Post Game thread
Post by: SunMo on November 22, 2005, 08:01:04 AM
Quote from: Purple_Hayz on November 21, 2005, 11:37:46 PM
Yes of course, because the ineffectiveness is all about the blitzers not getting there.  The guys that don't blitz can just sit around with their thumbs up their collective asses because it's not like y'know they actually have to keep the receivers from a) running their route and b) getting open or anything, especially when the receivers are running deep.  I mean, these guys run 40 yards in under five seconds.  There's no need for the defense to concern themselves with covering and disrupting those deep routes or anything because there's no way they could get 15-20 yards downfield before a good blitz got to the QB, right? :P

you really don't understand football huh?
Title: Re: Eagles/Giants - Post Game thread
Post by: SunMo on November 22, 2005, 08:02:03 AM
Quote from: bobbyinlondon on November 22, 2005, 07:41:48 AM
In Saturday's preview of the Sunday's game, they also talked about the Cowboys' game where the blitz failed to get there--it seems there was an unnamed player that WAS SUPPOSED TO BLITZ, BUT DIDN'T.


i think it was Matt Ware, he either didn't blitz on that play or took a poor path like Adams, I remember his name being connected with that play.
Title: Re: Eagles/Giants - Post Game thread
Post by: rjs246 on November 22, 2005, 08:17:00 AM
Quote from: bobbyinlondon on November 22, 2005, 07:41:48 AM
Here's Brookover on his PLAYBACK segment in today's Inquirer:


Bad route

Weakside linebacker Keith Adams blitzed on the Giants' game-clinching touchdown pass from Eli Manning to Plaxico Burress. For some reason, however, he didn't make an inside move, and that gave Manning time to pump-fake. Sheldon Brown bit on the fake and Burress ran past him for the touchdown in the 27-17 Giants victory.

In Saturday's preview of the Sunday's game, they also talked about the Cowboys' game where the blitz failed to get there--it seems there was an unnamed player that WAS SUPPOSED TO BLITZ, BUT DIDN'T.


Hooray for more stories about our defense shteinting the bed!
Title: Re: Eagles/Giants - Post Game thread
Post by: Syracuse on November 22, 2005, 08:26:38 AM
There was no pressure at all from the LB's on that play. I was sitting in the end zone watching that play, and the LB's were a non factor.
Sheldon biting on the pump fake, that was the real problem on that play.
Title: Re: Eagles/Giants - Post Game thread
Post by: PoopyfaceMcGee on November 22, 2005, 08:34:01 AM
Just like last week with Bledsoe/Glenn/Lito... the CB practices to move on the QB's first move, because the blitz is theoretically supposed to get there before the QB has time to double-pump.  Both of those plays fall squarely on the lack of pressure gotten by the blitz.
Title: Re: Eagles/Giants - Post Game thread
Post by: MadMarchHare on November 22, 2005, 08:45:20 AM
I thought Sheldon's real mistake was letting up when Burress slowed down.  He should have used that mistake by Burress to get in front of him, prevent a 20 yd catch from becoming a TD.
Title: Re: Eagles/Giants - Post Game thread
Post by: PoopyfaceMcGee on November 22, 2005, 08:54:04 AM
Quote from: MadMarchHare on November 22, 2005, 08:45:20 AM
I thought Sheldon's real mistake was letting up when Burress slowed down.  He should have used that mistake by Burress to get in front of him, prevent a 20 yd catch from becoming a TD.

Agreed.  He let a much bigger guy juke him, and a small CB can't afford to do that.  Still, Manning had way too much time.
Title: Re: Eagles/Giants - Post Game thread
Post by: Purple_Hayz on November 22, 2005, 10:34:19 AM
Quote from: Cerevant on November 22, 2005, 07:28:34 AM
:-o

Does the term "hot read" mean nothing to you? If a QB has 5 seconds to throw the ball, he has "all day". A blitz should get to him in 1-2 seconds. That gives your receiver running full speed in a straight line time to get 10-15 yards. Sheppard jumped a 10 yard hitch and go on a play where he knew a blitz was called, so it should be likely that either a) the ball would be coming to his man fast, or b) the ball would be going somewhere else.
Yeah I'm aware of the concept, thanks.  My point, of course, is that irrespective of the amount of pressure a blitz actually gets or does not get if our coverage guys are doing their jobs then there's no way that a receiver should be getting wide the hell open downfield inside of three seconds yet they have so the backs deserve their share of the blame for that.  One does not contradict the other.
Title: Re: Eagles/Giants - Post Game thread
Post by: ice grillin you on November 23, 2005, 07:55:15 AM
there really won't be a need to draft a stud DE. Instead, we need a difference making OLB.

welcome to july