OK, who watches this show? I haven't posted about it all year, but after last night's episode, I had to. WTF is going on?? LOL
It's getting more bizarre as it goes on. I think the writers are putting scripts together the night before they film each episode.
I LOVE it. Last night's episode was one of the best yet. I KNEW that guy was strange...."Ethan". But I love the show...the more bizarre it gets, the better it gets and the more I want to watch it.
Awesome show. I don't watch much TV, but I go out of my way to watch this one. Very cinematic. Wish I could just sit down and watch the entire season.
The only problem I have with it is that I wish it was poised as a one-season show with a definative ending. I hate the idea that they won't wrap things up and will drag it out into a mulit-season series. As it stands, I hope I'm not disappointed with how they close out the season.
Ethan, I believe, is the French woman's son.
Quote from: Zanshin on December 02, 2004, 09:22:28 AM
Ethan, I believe, is the French woman's son.
She said she was alone though....on the radio....
Quote from: PhillyGirl on December 02, 2004, 09:25:14 AM
Quote from: Zanshin on December 02, 2004, 09:22:28 AM
Ethan, I believe, is the French woman's son.
She said she was alone though....on the radio....
She was asking Saiid where her son was last week. Just because she was alone when she recorded the message, doesn't mean she was alone on the island.
ah, ok.
i watch the show hoping for answers but always come up with more questions....i'm addicted.
ethan might be frenchie's son....hell, the way this show is going, he could be anybody. great show. :yay
Alex??? Awsome show i'm hooked...only problem is my DVR stopped recording as they figured out there was one extra person in the group than there was in the manifest, was that the Lance guy(ethan)? I'm with you Zanshin, its such an awsome setting perfect for the bigscreen and Surround Sound. It was a little weird b/c everytime they showed Ethan he was gathering wood or coconuts. So what does everyone think about the Baby? Is it the antichrist? Hitler? or the next Brett Favreses :paranoid
MURP says its an alien baby...most likely from the Predator family...lmfao
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v367/mnemosyne23/I%20Believe%20Banners/IBelieve_charlieclaire01.jpg)
OK, now THAT is pretty sad. Someone made that? LMFAO
There's liking the show a lot and being a little overboard. I'm thinking the one that made that is leaning a bit towards the latter?
:-D
that psychic was freakin' me out! ;D
The psychic had a huge HEED..No wonder he had the gift..
want to see something funny? http://p073.ezboard.com/blosttheunofficalforumfortheabcseries
Quote from: MURP on December 02, 2004, 10:10:47 AM
want to see something funny? http://p073.ezboard.com/blosttheunofficalforumfortheabcseries
Imagine how much bandwidth that would've been consumed by a Twin Peaks message board. :P
What happened to the monster in the tree's? That just kind of died.
It's fitting it's called "Lost". Watching that show, I am completely lost. ;D
There is absolutely no direction in that show.
(http://www.lost-tv.com/pictures/albums/userpics/10040/normal_sawer2.jpg) :-D
Its a great, even if they have a bunch of wacko fans. Ethan is listed a guest star BTW--meaning he's either going to be woven in and out of the story line, or killed in the next episode or so.
i like the show.
but i think they are trying to do much with it. one of the few shows that i watch all the way through though.
i would hope they start to explain a little in the coming weeks. as it does come off like they are making the story up as they go along.
I missed the first few and i figured it would be too tough to pick up in the middle. Anyone know if they plan on airing it again from the beginning?
Actually, yes. The first 6 eps will air at 8 and 9 after next week (15th, 22nd, 29th) Most shows stop running new eps after next week, and pick up in early january. So if want to catch up on Lost, heres your chance......
Quote from: MDS on December 02, 2004, 04:58:41 PM
Actually, yes. The first 6 eps will air at 8 and 9 after next week (15th, 22nd, 29th) Most shows stop running new eps after next week, and pick up in early january. So if want to catch up on Lost, heres your chance......
ahhh sweet. Thanks for the heads up. :yay :yay
Holy shtein...this show just gets better and better.
Does Boone get killed off? I didn't think he was leaving the show!
The light going on at the end just blew me away.
Quote from: PhillyGirl on March 30, 2005, 10:01:24 PM
Holy shtein...this show just gets better and better.
Does Boone get killed off? I didn't think he was leaving the show!
The light going on at the end just blew me away.
Yeah that show is friggin insane probably with Deadwood for my favorite shows.
this is really one of the more anticlimactic shows out there. everything seems to fit a litte too well. but thats just me.
they might as well have left locke in a tub of ice with a note saying to call the hospital :-D
the show's okay. but the first 10 episodes were much much better. it's seemed to have lost focus recently.
Quote from: Wingspan on March 30, 2005, 10:42:26 PM
this is really one of the more anticlimactic shows out there. everything seems to fit a litte too well. but thats just me.
they might as well have left locke in a tub of ice with a note saying to call the hospital :-D
the show's okay. but the first 10 episodes were much much better. it's seemed to have lost focus recently.
Recently, its been repeats for over a month.
Quote from: PhillyGirl on March 30, 2005, 10:46:21 PM
Quote from: Wingspan on March 30, 2005, 10:42:26 PM
this is really one of the more anticlimactic shows out there. everything seems to fit a litte too well. but thats just me.
they might as well have left locke in a tub of ice with a note saying to call the hospital :-D
the show's okay. but the first 10 episodes were much much better. it's seemed to have lost focus recently.
Recently, its been repeats for over a month.
ok...the FIRST 10 episodes or so were really good. the last 8 or 9 have seemed to have lost focus.
sheesh ::)
Wow...who else is still watching this? This weeks' episode looks like its going to be insane. :yay
I stopped watching after maybe 3 episodes....
People still watch that show?
I watch...and I'm proud of it.
I could never get into. None of the episodes ever seemed to have any point. All this weird shtein happens for absolutely no reason. Just strange.
Great show IMO. Their hyping up the season finale, hopefully it doesnt dissapoint.
I admit I'm hooked. Season finale tonight :-D. And there will be more seasons after this due to the success of the show - so they wont be getting off the island....
That show is one of the best shows on TV. That and Deadwood are the only two shows I go out of my way to watch.
eh...i gave up about a month ago. kept forgetting it was on. bored the crap out of me
did they ever find the slee stacks?
(http://members.cox.net/stymie/sleestack.jpg)
Mikey...I think there is one more episode left. At least that's what it looked like on the teaser at the end of last night's show.
How this show bores anyone is beyond me. I'm not sure what more you could want from a show.
Quote from: PhillyGirl on May 19, 2005, 08:05:23 AM
How this show bores anyone is beyond me. I'm not sure what more you could want from a show.
Naked pillow fights.
eh, that's why they make chocolate and vanilla, I guess. But for me, I couldn't ask for much more. There's a complex narrative, rich and interesting characters, and a non-traditional flashback arc all wrapped with a great setting and nice camerawork. The acting is good, and the dialog works for me.
One thing-- what the hell did Kate do initially? I thought at first that she had robbed the bank and shot her boyfriend then went back home on the run. But I had that backwards. She did something, then went home on the run, then killed the guy in the bank. What do you figure she did to be on the run in the first place?
I was thinking the same thing last night when the Marshal was explaining everything. I have no clue.
And I still want to know why Charlie from Party of Five isn't married to Carol Vessey of Ed anymore ;).
I watched it last night, and I'm more lost than ever.
It's like that show has no script and it's all just shot from the hip.
And for the love of God, what the hell is in the tree's!?!?
A security system, of course. :paranoid
Quote from: Zanshin on May 19, 2005, 08:37:42 AM
A security system, of course. :paranoid
I think they're all 'lost' on a resort island and all they're hearing is the chopping down of the useless trees just outside of their sight line to make room for more condos. I predict that in the season finale the hot brunette will comfort the hot blonde over the loss of her brother (who she occasionally had sex with) by presenting her with a cheerio to bark at.
See, now I'll just be nothing but disappointed with the real finale.
Well the show is going to last 3-5 seasons, so don't expect any real closure during the season finale...most likely they'll answer some questions but in the Lost tradition, present a few more.
Quote from: mikey418 on May 19, 2005, 09:48:58 AM
Well the show is going to last 3-5 seasons, so don't expect any real closure during the season finale...most likely they'll answer some questions but in the Lost tradition, present a few more.
Of course. I think they'll answer more on what went on in the plane before the crash, and very little about the island. We might find out HOW they got there, but WHY they are there is probably due in the series finale.
The how is easy. Didn't you see The Truman Show?
Quote from: PhillyGirl on May 19, 2005, 08:05:23 AM
How this show bores anyone is beyond me. I'm not sure what more you could want from a show.
Agreed.
We were lucky enough to be camping about a mile down the beach with my sons Indian Guides group(boy scouts without the rules - instead of firewood we collect cold 12 oz. cans ;))from where they film Lost last month. We hiked down on a Sunday morning and we were able to check out the set. It was very cool with all the airplane parts and make shift little shelters. The dude on security was freaking out when we showed up. We told him we were a father/son group and just wanted to look at the set. He was not to thrilled. We asked him to take a group photo and he wanted nothing to do with us. We quickly got the hint. They film the entire show on Oahu. It's funny for those of us who live here as we crack up when they use the Convention Center as the Sydney Airport, a downtown Honolulu Church as a Scottish Cathedral, a local neighborhood as Hurley's neighborhood.
If I can ever figure out how to download pictures into this site I'll post some from our "uninvited" visit to the set.
It's an excellent show--one of the most inventive, well-written, well-acted, and beautifully directed and "told" series in recent memory, and the first one I've found to be extremely addictive since "The X Files".
Can't wait to see the two hour season-finale this Wednesday. :yay
RE: Kate's initial transgression, I think they may have thrown us a clue when her Mother freaked out when she went to visit her in the hospital. My suspicion is that her original crime was against a member of her family, and that she'd been on the run since she was a teenager...perhaps murder of an abusive Father? Then again, with this show? Her Mom may have just been delusional from Chemo/cancer.
Quote from: jeffreyjpa on May 23, 2005, 09:12:29 AM
RE: Kate's initial transgression, I think they may have thrown us a clue when her Mother freaked out when she went to visit her in the hospital. My suspicion is that her original crime was against a member of her family, and that she'd been on the run since she was a teenager...perhaps murder of an abusive Father? Then again, with this show? Her Mom may have just been delusional from Chemo/cancer.
Makes sense. Good insight.
Quote from: jeffreyjpa on May 23, 2005, 09:12:29 AMRE: Kate's initial transgression, I think they may have thrown us a clue when her Mother freaked out when she went to visit her in the hospital. My suspicion is that her original crime was against a member of her family, and that she'd been on the run since she was a teenager...perhaps murder of an abusive Father? Then again, with this show? Her Mom may have just been delusional from Chemo/cancer.
Kate = Darth Vader
Quote from: jeffreyjpa on May 23, 2005, 09:12:29 AM
It's an excellent show--one of the most inventive, well-written, well-acted, and beautifully directed and "told" series in recent memory, and the first one I've found to be extremely addictive since "The X Files".
Can't wait to see the two hour season-finale this Wednesday. :yay
RE: Kate's initial transgression, I think they may have thrown us a clue when her Mother freaked out when she went to visit her in the hospital. My suspicion is that her original crime was against a member of her family, and that she'd been on the run since she was a teenager...perhaps murder of an abusive Father? Then again, with this show? Her Mom may have just been delusional from Chemo/cancer.
Probably, yea. I think that everyone on the island has some sort of issue with their father (we know Jack, Walt, Jin, Sun, Locke and Sawyer already do).
Quote from: Don Ho on May 21, 2005, 07:36:00 PM
Quote from: PhillyGirl on May 19, 2005, 08:05:23 AM
How this show bores anyone is beyond me. I'm not sure what more you could want from a show.
Agreed.
We were lucky enough to be camping about a mile down the beach with my sons Indian Guides group(boy scouts without the rules - instead of firewood we collect cold 12 oz. cans ;))from where they film Lost last month. We hiked down on a Sunday morning and we were able to check out the set. It was very cool with all the airplane parts and make shift little shelters. The dude on security was freaking out when we showed up. We told him we were a father/son group and just wanted to look at the set. He was not to thrilled. We asked him to take a group photo and he wanted nothing to do with us. We quickly got the hint. They film the entire show on Oahu. It's funny for those of us who live here as we crack up when they use the Convention Center as the Sydney Airport, a downtown Honolulu Church as a Scottish Cathedral, a local neighborhood as Hurley's neighborhood.
If I can ever figure out how to download pictures into this site I'll post some from our "uninvited" visit to the set.
lol...this article sounds like you wrote it ;) (http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20050524/ap_en_tv/tv_lost_locations)
wasnt that a steaming pile of nothing. :boo :boo :boo :boo :boo :boo :boo :boo
Anoying, yes. But the show is going to be around for awhile....their not goin answer everything now. Their just goin create more and more questions. The season ended with some major questions needed to be answered, no who shot jr moment, but still some really good stuff.
I liked it. Dissapointing that we didnt get the MAJOR CLIFFHANGER they were pimping out, but still good. September cant come soon enough.
Yeah, they needed to throw us a little more to make it satisfying. All we really learned is that the baby wasn't the boy "they" really wanted.
The schoolteacher being exploded was the best thing I've seen in a while.
Yeah, and the "others" are some scary looking motherfargers, who sound like Americans. Having pieces of a blown-up science teacher land on them was a nice touch (sorry Geo).
I too was expecting them to raise more questions, but hoping they'd give some more answers for lingering season 1 questions than they did.
On the bright side, at least we won't need to wait for three years for the next season to begin, like "The Sopranos".
Quote from: jeffreyjpa on May 26, 2005, 09:02:48 AM
Yeah, and the "others" are some scary looking motherfargers, who sound like Americans. Having pieces of a blown-up science teacher land on them was a nice touch (sorry Geo).
I too was expecting them to raise more questions, but hoping they'd give some more answers for lingering season 1 questions than they did.
On the bright side, at least we won't need to wait for three years for the next season to begin, like "The Sopranos".
No problem. I teach social studies. ;D
Quote from: Wingspan on May 25, 2005, 10:24:56 PM
wasnt that a steaming pile of nothing. :boo :boo :boo :boo :boo :boo :boo :boo
I LOVED the last episode. I just watched it last night and loved it.
What the hell did you want? A nicely wrapped package with all of the answers?
I am DYING to know what happens for next season.
Too many people were whining and bitching, threatning to never watch the show again because they really didnt tell us anything. If they told us everything, these people would be bitching that there is nothing to look foward to and the show is boring. Idiots.
The episode was very well done, right up there with Walkabout (where we found out that Locke was in a wheelchair) and the Pilot. They've got me itching all summer long to find out what happens next.
I'm just upset that the baby wasn't shot in the face.
And that the two hotties didn't get intimate with each other's rain-forrest-esque nether regions. Can you even imagine how hairy those broads are at this point?
I have seen only bits and pieces of the show and I feel that they ripped off a lot of the predator which pisses me off as you know. ;) the cloak chameleon look jumping through the trees, the same sound effects sped up, and the same booby traps. boooooooooooooooooo.
Quote from: MURP on May 27, 2005, 09:05:13 AM
I have seen only bits and pieces of the show and I feel that they ripped off a lot of the predator which pisses me off as you know. ;) the cloak chameleon look jumping through the trees, the same sound effects sped up, and the same booby traps. boooooooooooooooooo.
Its a smoke effect with the creature things...lol. You missed that.
Quote from: PhillyGirl on May 27, 2005, 07:33:34 AMA nicely wrapped package with all of the answers?
no, not at all.
i would have, however liked to have SOME things answered.
where'd the polar bears come from? whats that monster? whats in that hatch? whats up with that band of pirates? i know they are the "others" but where the hell do they get bullets and gasoline? and even after over a month, all the womens legs are still shaved, and the beards are the same length. boone's sister went from being homicidal to non-existant. then you have the numbers? the plane, the boat.
they answered nothing. and only created more problems.
You're all a bunch of whiners.
I posted this on some other EMB but I'll say it again. Everyone has come to expect explosions, alien invasions, lebian butt-snacking and miracle recoveries from season finales. It's a freaking television show. And a good one. Those are rare. Enjoy it, jerks.
Quote from: PhillyGirl on May 25, 2005, 09:38:28 AM
Quote from: Don Ho on May 21, 2005, 07:36:00 PM
Quote from: PhillyGirl on May 19, 2005, 08:05:23 AM
How this show bores anyone is beyond me. I'm not sure what more you could want from a show.
Agreed.
We were lucky enough to be camping about a mile down the beach with my sons Indian Guides group(boy scouts without the rules - instead of firewood we collect cold 12 oz. cans ;))from where they film Lost last month. We hiked down on a Sunday morning and we were able to check out the set. It was very cool with all the airplane parts and make shift little shelters. The dude on security was freaking out when we showed up. We told him we were a father/son group and just wanted to look at the set. He was not to thrilled. We asked him to take a group photo and he wanted nothing to do with us. We quickly got the hint. They film the entire show on Oahu. It's funny for those of us who live here as we crack up when they use the Convention Center as the Sydney Airport, a downtown Honolulu Church as a Scottish Cathedral, a local neighborhood as Hurley's neighborhood.
If I can ever figure out how to download pictures into this site I'll post some from our "uninvited" visit to the set.
lol...this article sounds like you wrote it ;) (http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20050524/ap_en_tv/tv_lost_locations)
Plagiarism! Love the photo of the security guard.
Quote from: Wingspan on May 27, 2005, 09:47:05 AM
Quote from: PhillyGirl on May 27, 2005, 07:33:34 AMA nicely wrapped package with all of the answers?
no, not at all.
i would have, however liked to have SOME things answered.
where'd the polar bears come from? whats that monster? whats in that hatch? whats up with that band of pirates? i know they are the "others" but where the hell do they get bullets and gasoline? and even after over a month, all the womens legs are still shaved, and the beards are the same length. boone's sister went from being homicidal to non-existant. then you have the numbers? the plane, the boat.
they answered nothing. and only created more problems.
Did you notice at the end of the episode they had Hugo reading a comic w/a Polar Bear on the Front Cover :paranoid
I just watched it Friday night and was really happy w/some of the resolution. Definitely cant wait till next season :yay
They'd shown that comic earlier...when the psychic kid was reading it.
Hurley was in the nut house, so maybe he turns into a polar bear when he gets angry? I figured it out!
Just a reminder....9pm tonight :yay
WTF is in that hatch! We'll find out, but will just lead to more questions.
So I've never actually watched an episode - if I tune in - have I missed too much to know what is going on?
I hear there's threesomes on network television. Has this show got them? FFM, I hope?
Quote from: SD_Eagle on September 21, 2005, 08:20:36 PM
So I've never actually watched an episode - if I tune in - have I missed too much to know what is going on?
rent the first season on DVD.
well they did it again, im on my seat waiting till next week again. Great beginning to hopefully another good season.
wtf that show is amazing. that guy....how what where when?
Quote from: PhillyGirl on September 21, 2005, 09:57:00 PM
Quote from: SD_Eagle on September 21, 2005, 08:20:36 PM
So I've never actually watched an episode - if I tune in - have I missed too much to know what is going on?
rent the first season on DVD.
Okay, I just watched the beginning of what I think is the first episode. How many seasons behind am I?
if you saw the crash thats episode one only the first season. What was on tonight was the start of season 2
Quote from: Seabiscuit36 on September 21, 2005, 11:15:57 PM
if you saw the crash thats episode one only the first season. What was on tonight was the start of season 2
Cool, thanks. Doesn't seem like I'm
that far behind :paranoid So far this first episode is pretty good :yay
first episode won best directing in drama series at emmys. first 20 minutes are superb :yay
Speaking of ABC shows, I saw Invasion and thought it was pretty bad. I'll give it another episode, and if I still think it sucks I'm done with it.
Lost is OK, but no matter what happens there is no way it will live up to the suspense. When you build up something for so long, the outcome is going to be disappointing no matter what it is.
I was half interested in watching Invasion...but I figured I'd get better use out of the extra hour of sleep.
What I found interesting was the other runner's comments to Jack: "See you in another life"......
Solid opener, as expected.
Quote from: mikey418 on September 22, 2005, 08:03:21 AM
What I found interesting was the other runner's comments to Jack: "See you in another life"......
He also told him to "lift up" after speaking to him about miracles, then acted like he was telling him about his ankle. Notice the 'Quarantine' sign is in the inside of the hatch, not on the outside? Wonder what the relevance of that number sequence is?
Quote from: SD_Eagle on September 22, 2005, 09:08:52 AM
Quote from: mikey418 on September 22, 2005, 08:03:21 AM
What I found interesting was the other runner's comments to Jack: "See you in another life"......
He also told him to "lift up" after speaking to him about miracles, then acted like he was telling him about his ankle. Notice the 'Quarantine' sign is in the inside of the hatch, not on the outside? Wonder what the relevance of that number sequence is?
So many "I wonder" comments can be made about it...does anyone remember what the guy tells Jack his name is? Also, why the heck could that girl see Walt and why was he all wet?
The guys name was Desmond.
Desmond wasnt the guy in the beginning i think. And what was he shooting up with?
Looked to me that it was medicine for whatever had him quarantined.
Quote from: Seabiscuit36 on September 22, 2005, 09:39:06 AM
Desmond wasnt the guy in the beginning i think. And what was he shooting up with?
Yeah it was him....same dude...
I was thinking it was a big-assed steroid injection at first.
Desmond wasn't quarantining himself from the island, but rather quarantining the island from him(the island is what is infected). I think the injection was vitamins. He did grind up fruit and stuff.
I didn't see this myself, but I got it from others (Igglephans) who did: The bottles of stuff he injected...had "the numbers" on them. And all through his place, there were signs of "the numbers."
Another thing I found online is someone recorded what Walt said when Shannon thought she saw him. If you play it backwards it sounds like "Push the button" or "Don't push the button."
It's hard to tell.
It's assumed to mean the button on Desmond's computer that Jack was about to push when Locke told him to stop.
I found this theory on their website:
Quotehttp://recently found an interesting natuarlly occuring thoery found in our world that states everyone has a mirror image somewhere in the world. You may have heard of this. Its called Roussau's genetic mirror theory, and I must say it is very interesting. Roussau's genetic mirror theory says that everyone in the world has an exact twin somewhere, however according to the theory you never encounter this person, by laws of probablitly and other natuaral occuring phemnomen. Its the theory that was devised by a French Mathematician named Marseille Roussau in the year 1988. He used a series of numbers to explain his theory. Now I know you're not going to believe this but here goes.
4 8 15 16 23 42
Let me explain...
The 4 stands for 4 degrees of separation (not 6 or 7 as commonly stated.) Roussau believed that everyone in the world was connected by four different people. So in theory could meet yourself by using four different people connected to you. Example: Your brother's, boss's, neighbor nephew, knows your mirror. Hard to believe, I know but keep reading.
The 8 stands for the eight continent, or the only place in the world where you could meet your mirror. He calculated it to be somewhere in the south pacific. Now we know its not actually as large as the other contintents but its used figurtively because everyone in all 7 continents could meet there mirror on the 8th universal continent.
The 15 stands for the chances of you acually meeting yourself on this place, as in 15 out of 4,815,162,342. Look at the second set "815." Ring any bells? Interesting huh?
The 16 stands for the maximum amount of people that could encounter thier twin all at the same time. Think about the number of main characters.
The 23 is the number of years apart your twin and yourself are. You are not the same age as your twin. By chance and probablity it takes 23 years exactly for the same genes that made you to be connected again to form another you.
The 42 stands for the maximimum number of years your twin and yourself can be alive at the same time. However people do die at diffferent times so thats why everyone isn't dead at 75. For example my twin was born on Sept. 6 2003 b/c i was born on Spet. 6 1980. Now that doesn't mean i will die in the year 2045, I could, but its not set in stone. My twin could die when he is 16, and then the whole thing starts over again.
This is all very complicated and I don't know how well I explained it but the connections with the show are too coinidental to not be real.
Roussau and his team (wife, included) went to the 8th continent. You can figure out how they died and why by the numbers and equations. It also fits with every character. You can predict when they will die. There are others on the island who are twins of the survivors, but have been there 23 years longer.
There is a book Roussau wrote 16 years ago in 1988 when he came up with the theory. Thats where I got it from.
It makes sense if it's true, but there's only a couple of people claiming they heard it.
you guys know this show is supposed to run for like 8 more years? good luck waiting to see Daniel Snyder pop out of the hatch when you have one foot in the grave.
Quote from: MURP on September 22, 2005, 06:59:51 PM
you guys know this show is supposed to run for like 8 more years? good luck waiting to see Daniel Snyder pop out of the hatch when you have one foot in the grave.
Really? 8? Last night was my first night watching it :-D I give it 3-5 years tops. Fans will start getting annoyed if the story goes nowhere.
They didn't even officially guarantee a 3rd season yet.
Quote from: Avenger on September 22, 2005, 07:41:18 PM
They didn't even officially guarantee a 3rd season yet.
yeah, and Bush didnt officially declare war on Iran yet. :-D
The thing is, the writing team has no control over how long the show lasts. They can say to ABC: OK to finish the story it will take 3 seasons. Then ABC is going to say. Well if it's successful then we will continue it as long as it takes. ABC owns it's rights.
Anyway it will go 5 seasons max. I'm guessing 3 or 4. 8... no chance in hell.
Quote from: Avenger on September 22, 2005, 09:34:34 PM
Anyway it will go 5 seasons max. I'm guessing 3 or 4.
ha. covering 3 years with a guess. come on, pick one number!
Quote from: Avenger on September 22, 2005, 09:34:34 PM
The thing is, the writing team has no control over how long the show lasts. They can say to ABC: OK to finish the story it will take 3 seasons. Then ABC is going to say. Well if it's successful then we will continue it as long as it takes.
im just saying the writers have already said they have 8 seasons worth of material. As long as the show is a cash cow, ABC has no reason to stop it anytime soon.
If it takes more than 3 seasons to reveal the mystery of the island people will stop caring. No one is going to wait until 2011 to find out what's up to the island. I know you didn't say they would definitely have 8 seasons, but if they plan to, then they better reveal the secret by season 3's end and go from there.
reveal one secret, provide another. seems like a winning strategy.
The thing is all mysteries lead back to the one mystery, which is why are they all there and what is up with the island? They can only drag it out for so long. There is about 25 episodes per season. If they reveal one secret per season then you will have 20 episodes of nothing.
hey, the writers have kept you guys freakin out every week so far, im sure if they think they have 8 seasons worth of material they have some serious tricks up their sleeves.
Quote from: Avenger on September 22, 2005, 09:34:34 PM
The thing is, the writing team has no control over how long the show lasts. They can say to ABC: OK to finish the story it will take 3 seasons. Then ABC is going to say. Well if it's successful then we will continue it as long as it takes. ABC owns it's rights.
Anyway it will go 5 seasons max. I'm guessing 3 or 4. 8... no chance in hell.
Ah no. Lindelof and/maybe Abrams are in charge. He is contractually obligated to do x amount of season/episodes. Whatever they sign. Right now they are set for a full 23 episode order. After that, nothing is in stone. The show is quite popular, so I don't see why ABC wouldn't bring it back. When a show reaches the height of popularity that Lost is at, the producers hold the balls. They can decide that season 7 is it. They're done.
Examples:
Seinfeld and Raymond. Their respective networks wanted the shows back, were offering big time cash. The creators said nope, were done. They were not contratcually obligated to another season, so they said no.
You're ratings suck and you get cancelled. Until you reach hit status, the network holds the balls cause they can cancel you at anytime. Look at David Chase with The Sopranos. He can do whatever he wants cause his show the most popular and profitable show in HBO's history. Two years between seasons sure doesn't sound like something the network would want.
I don't think it's like that with every series. I think networks can bring it back if they want. Not exactly sure of all the technicalities.
Quote from: Avenger on September 22, 2005, 10:29:30 PM
Not exactly sure of all the technicalities.
dont worry, if there is one thing MDS actually knows, its his television. ha.
Not really. Who will watch Lost with completley different actors, writers and producers? Yea....I know too much about this stuff.
i will only watch it next year if they open that hatch and find Ed O'Neill bonging a 40oz of Steel Reserve.
holla
I won't stick around Lost too long if they just drag it out and unnecesessarily delay the mystery.
Theyll continue to reveal questions, which will just lead to new ones. This will go on until Lindelof wants to do something new. I figure they have an end point, and if the show continues to be real popular, by season 5 or 6 theyll all have more than enough money so abc tempting them with more will not endice the producers. at the same time, they could be like er and just sorta hang on to what once was a great show by having no original castmembers remain.
and murps right, bundy needs to be on. i was watching some frontline piece in a media class and they showed a few clips from bundy, twas an awsome moment. better than the clip they showed of carl winslow in a hospital gown.
Eventually it gets to the point where there is so many questions you stop caring. I predict it'll end in 3 seasons and if not them I'm done with it. It's not all that great anyway. The only reason people are watching is to find out what happens next. The suspense and mystery is what keeps everyone drawn in. That would apply to any mystery though. What I think they'll do is they will reveal the mysteries of the island and their connection, but then they will make more mysteries with that. They can't have the same questions hanging over it for too long, so they will solve those and add new ones.
isnt that what the hell i said. ha.
I thought you meant they would keep the mystery about the island lingering, but just keep adding clues for the viewers to think about. Which would be boring and stupid.
i dunno, i think the show is boring and stupid already ;) Thats why I just watch the PREDATOR 200 times a year.
Quote from: PhillyGirl on September 21, 2005, 09:57:00 PM
Quote from: SD_Eagle on September 21, 2005, 08:20:36 PM
So I've never actually watched an episode - if I tune in - have I missed too much to know what is going on?
rent the first season on DVD.
Has anyone bought the set? Saw it at Tower Records yesterday. My neice works there and she said Naveen Andrews(Sayid)is always in there buying CD's.
I see Harold Perrineau(Michael)jogging near my house all the time and at the 24 Hour Fitness in my neighborhood. Saw Locke earlier this summer. Also saw Kate and Charlie at a smoothie shop two weeks ago. My wife said they are an item.
Quote from: MURP on September 22, 2005, 09:59:03 PM
reveal one secret, provide another. seems like a winning strategy.
That formula kept The X Files going for way too long.
if we dont see at least 1 slee-stack this season, i dont see how i can keep watching
I think the monster is Chaka all grown up.
Quote from: Susquehanna Birder on September 23, 2005, 07:41:46 AM
Quote from: MURP on September 22, 2005, 09:59:03 PM
reveal one secret, provide another. seems like a winning strategy.
That formula kept The X Files going for way too long.
I was thinking that, too...The X-Files was the best show on TV for a few years, but eventually they had to give up the secret of the conspiracy and wrap-up the core part of the story, or alienate the viewers (no pun intended). "Lost" will need to continue this story line for at least a few years, or it could suffer the same fate as the X-Files did after the main story was resolved. Of course, losing Duchovny and Anderson at the same time (for the most part) didn't help, either.
:-D Chaka...I wonder if Koy has a little Chaka lineage in him.
This site reveals a lot of clues.
http://losthatch.com/audio_visual.aspx
Wow..excellent site. Thanks!
I think this is an excellent show but I agree that it will probably only last 3-4 seasons, it will be extremely difficult to keep up the story and maintain interest.
I was reading in USA Today lastweek and the writer said the 3rd episode will explain a lot and that will be the one everyone talks about. It also said they will explain a lot more throughout the season because people are getting tired of all the questions not being answered. To me that is what makes the show great but as usual people are so fargin impatient.
Americans are stupid. I think the writers were shocked and upset with the fans reaction to the season finale, which they were boasting as being really good and exciting and such. So, they're basically giving the fans what they want--answering questions and going inside the hatch, etc.
I, for one, want this to drag on as long as possible. It's a great show. It's an hour out of my usually boring, simplistic day. I enjoy getting swept into the show. I just let it take me along for the ride (teehee). Unfourtnatley, not everyone thinks like me. Which sucks, cause they should. I'm always right.
Quote from: MURP on September 22, 2005, 11:06:26 PM
isnt that what the hell i said. ha.
Maybe he couldn't understand your accent. ;)
For those who want to watch the first episode again, it will air at 8:00 Wednesday, prior to the episode. I will definitely be setting the DVR for both of 'em this time.
Quote from: MDS on September 25, 2005, 12:18:05 PM
Americans are stupid. I think the writers were shocked and upset with the fans reaction to the season finale, which they were boasting as being really good and exciting and such. So, they're basically giving the fans what they want--answering questions and going inside the hatch, etc.
I, for one, want this to drag on as long as possible. It's a great show. It's an hour out of my usually boring, simplistic day. I enjoy getting swept into the show. I just let it take me along for the ride (teehee). Unfourtnatley, not everyone thinks like me. Which sucks, cause they should. I'm always right.
I agree.
So uh last nights show sort of blew, was too much of a repeat of the season premier. One thing I noticed was the DHARMA symbol on Desmonds T-shirt and inside the food cabinet was also on the Sharks Fin. Anyone else catch this?
You can pack too much awsome into every episode. It was interesting to see what happened with the people in the hatch, but its stuff they could have covered in the first episode. But, this is the second consecutive episode to end on a cliffhanger. Actually, there are two cliffhangers, because we never really moved anywhere in the hatch storyline.
Quote from: SD_Eagle on September 29, 2005, 08:21:49 PM
So uh last nights show sort of blew, was too much of a repeat of the season premier. One thing I noticed was the DHARMA symbol on Desmonds T-shirt and inside the food cabinet was also on the Sharks Fin. Anyone else catch this?
I agree it was pointless, this is the only time I have been extremely disappointed with the show. It basically told us shtein we already knew.
You didn't know that Michael gave his son a polar bear before he went away forever, or until his mom died :crazy
Quote from: MDS on September 29, 2005, 08:52:10 PM
You didn't know that Michael gave his son a polar bear before he went away forever, or until his mom died :crazy
I noticed that too. I haven't seen season 1 yet but from what I hear the Polar Bear makes its appearance throughout in relation to Walt. I wonder what the signifance of that could be? Also, Jack certainly knows Desmond but Desmond doesn't seem to remember him so far. And I found it somewhat surprising that he was asking if anyone was sick and if the outside world still exists. He also seemed awfully surprised when hearing the plane had crashed there 44 days ago. Next weeks show should be interesting when we finally see the 'others'.
I didn't like last night's episode either, except that now I know that next week will rock. The two things I noticed were already mentioned -- thepolar bear, and that Desmond doesn't seem to recognize Jack. Could point back to that whole "everybody has a twin" thing discussed last week on CF....
I must have missed an episode or something... what's the significance of Dharma? That fact that it is on the shark's fin must make it pretty important.
Picture of shark fin (http://lost-forum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=24988)
It's a Buddhist principal that orders the universe.
sharks with frickin' laser beams
Here's something about that symbol from the site that Avenger gave the link to earlier:
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The symbol is a Feng Shui Ba-Gua . A Ba Gua is one of the tools used in Feng Shui to help determine preferred locations for certain functions. Feng shui (Chinese geomancy) has been used for thousands of years by Chinese people to harmonize themselves to their environment and to create good fortune
The image is also important do to the many mirror references in this episode: mirrors in the hospital, mirrors in the bunker and bottom of the hatch shaft, the Feng Shui Ba-Gua is also called the "Feng Shui Ba-Gua Mirror".
http://forums.go.com/abc/primetime/lost/thread?threadID=583378&forumStart=0
very interesting...
Quote from: Avenger on October 02, 2005, 08:32:43 PM
http://forums.go.com/abc/primetime/lost/thread?threadID=583378&forumStart=0
very interesting...
Indeed. People are freaking nuts about that show.
I finally got time to watch last week's episode last night, and agree...a bit too much rehashing of last week's episode, RE: the hatch, with some of the details filled in. I was thinking maybe the initial episode was written to be a two-hour show, but was chopped in half by ABC...it at least appeared to be written in that way.
RE: Desmond and the shark, I was thinking that the symbol may be indicative of some parent company that is doing some kind of genetic research...maybe Desmond is a clone (looks like same Desmond, doesn't seem to know Jack), the shark genetically engineered, and the "others" being experiments gone wrong, who were left to live/die on the island.
No idea what the count-down and then the required entry of the sequence of numbers is, unless it's some kind of automated self-destruct device that needs to have someone put in a combination periodically so that it doesn't detonate, to ensure that someone (Desmond) is still alive to reset it.
Of course, this is all massive speculation and most likely completely incorrect.
Uh, so is this shtein on tonight or what?
Yea it was won. And yea, it was awsome. God damn Ana-Lucia is a tricky whore.
It's obvious that the big black dude is the black girl's wife on the island(forget her name) and they are are from Flight 815. None of them are bad, they are just cautious.
He seems a bit young to be Rose's husband, kid. In fact, like a 30 year age difference.
30 year difference? The guy could've easily been in his late 30's. You didn't get nearly a good enough look at him.
Also even if he was, some couples are sick like that.
Ok maybe not that long. But I don't think their married. The link between the others and the survivors will be Jack and Ana-Lucia.. Duh.
Those people probably aren't even the others. There are probably 3 or 4 groups on that island.
I'm more pissed that Jack grew a vagina and pressed the button.
Quote from: jeffreyjpa on October 05, 2005, 09:23:03 AM...maybe Desmond is a clone (looks like same Desmond, doesn't seem to know Jack)
Good idea, but since Desmond remembered him finally, it doesn't fit.
BTW, the photo of Desmond on the desk - is the woman in the picture the one from Jack's miracle cure?
Quote from: Susquehanna Birder on October 06, 2005, 07:09:31 AM
Quote from: jeffreyjpa on October 05, 2005, 09:23:03 AM...maybe Desmond is a clone (looks like same Desmond, doesn't seem to know Jack)
Good idea, but since Desmond remembered him finally, it doesn't fit.
BTW, the photo of Desmond on the desk - is the woman in the picture the one from Jack's miracle cure?
I don't think so...
(http://lost-media.com/modules/coppermine/albums/ep-caps/season2/2x03-orientation/7/normal_orientation-cap321.jpg)
Wha the farg? farging baseball was on instead in Boston. What a farging joke.
Quote from: rjs246 on October 06, 2005, 09:28:31 AM
Wha the farg? farging baseball was on instead in Boston. What a farging joke.
you deserve to get jobbed like that.
Hey baseball fan. Cramit.
all your anti-baseball venom came back to bite you in the ass. karma is a bitch.
Quote from: MDS on October 06, 2005, 01:20:48 PM
all your anti-baseball venom came back to bite you in the ass. karma is a bitch.
Ha! If all that my 'anti-baseball venom biting me in the ass' amounts to missing one episode of Lost, I think I'll just keep on spittin'.
One crazy good episode. With a lezbo scene between Evangeline Lilly and Jessica Alba.
Quote from: MDS on October 06, 2005, 01:22:46 PM
One crazy good episode. With a lezbo scene between Evangeline Lilly and Jessica Alba.
If you weren't such a liar I would buy the season DVD. But since you are a liar, and I don't really care about Lost that much, I'll just break wind and wish you were here to sniff it.
I have to smell my own farts. Thats bad enough.
Why, did you have cabbage for lunch?
Nope. Just kinda of a daily thing for me to constantley fart.
http://humpys.net/images/theothers.jpg
Check out that photo
Are the people on the boat the same from the film?
Quote from: Avenger on October 06, 2005, 04:20:42 PM
http://humpys.net/images/theothers.jpg
Check out that photo
Are the people on the boat the same from the film?
Wow! Good find. I think you got it.
Someone else made that picture and I found it on a website, but yea, it definitely looks like they are the same people. A blonde matching a blonde isn't a huge coincidence, but the guy with the beard and stach AND the blonde girl both on the same boat is just too much of a coincidence to not be the same people from the film.
Recorded it last night and watched it today. Awesome episode.
Just got season 1 on DVD 8) Time to fill in the blanks. :-*
http://thetailsection.com/images/dharma-1.jpg
I don't know if it's doctored, or it just looks like what it does, but interesting nonetheless.
Check this out. Josh Halloway robbed at gun point. I live in this neighborhood mentioned. Holy shtein! He lives about two miles from us.
According to the TV news he is pretty shaken up. Time for sawyer to kick some ass!
http://khon.com/khon/displayStory.cfm?storyID=8020
http://www.honoluluadvertiser.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20051014/NEWS01/510140358/1001/NEWS
You Hawaiians are going to ruin that show!!
;)
Amazing. Funny thing is during the Hawaii 5-0 and Magnum PI days the cast loved it here because the local residents could give a rat's ass when they saw them in public. Jack Lord who came across as such a bad ass as McGarret was the nicest guy in the world. He'd stop and talk to people at the grocery store near his home. Believe it or not they actually built a statue of Lord at the shopping mall near his home he frequented all the time.
and nothing happened this week.
Well Sun found her ring ::)
3 weeks until the next episode :boom
Early speculation is that:
[SPOILER] Shannon is the girl killed in the next episode[/SPOILER] which would suck because I like her bikini scenes. :drool Plus she plays a great spoiled bimbo. If I had a say in the matter I'd kill Michelle Rodriguez off. I'm so sick of her in the pissed off bitch role.
Crazy LOST theory (http://www.4815162342.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=3377&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0)
Definitely worth the read if you're into the show. :yay
hmmmm. I dont watch the show, but an intern at my office was basically telling everyone at work that same thing to a large degree. And that was a month ago. :sly
Quote from: MURP on November 19, 2005, 09:46:00 PM
hmmmm. I dont watch the show, but an intern at my office was basically telling everyone at work that same thing to a large degree. And that was a month ago. :sly
Her name's not andrew smith and she's not from Northampton England by any chance is she?
That was probably the most plausible theory I've read so far.
I don't buy the "collective consciousness" thing, but it's an interesting take.
Quote from: SD_Eagle on November 19, 2005, 09:48:57 PM
Quote from: MURP on November 19, 2005, 09:46:00 PM
hmmmm. I dont watch the show, but an intern at my office was basically telling everyone at work that same thing to a large degree. And that was a month ago. :sly
Her name's not andrew smith and she's not from Northampton England by any chance is she?
That was probably the most plausible theory I've read so far.
heh.
im not sure about the whole collective conscious part either, but he did have an entire plot based around electomagnetic yadda yadda. Something about scientists working there testing stuff sorta like a Noah's Ark of testing subjects. Which would explain strange animals and other stuff being there. I didnt really pay attention to the rest of what he was saying.
Just a reminder, new episode on tonight :yay
8-9 (repeat of the rear end of the plane crash)
9-10 New episode.
My girl and I just watched season one and got hooked. That being said, we can't watch new episodes since we've missed a handful. We're gonna wait till it comes out on DVD so we can watch it straight through.
I won't be checking this thread anymore to avoid spoilers, etc.
If you watched lastnights episode you may have seen faces in the black smoke that confronted Eko, here they are. (http://lost.cubit.net/pics/2x10/) Some of the villagers and his brother are among the faces. (Creepy)
Only caught the last 30 minutes last night. Good stuff, though.
Interesting that the smoke monster seemed to be reflecting back things in Eko's mind. Also interesting to see that Eko seemed to know what it was, and he didn't fear it.
Not sure if you all heard about this incident last month involving Michelle Rodriguez.
http://the.honoluluadvertiser.com/article/2005/Dec/03/ln/FP512030330.html
Yeah, saw it. Hope they kill her off, soon.
You might get a kick out of this, last year my son's school had a fund raising auction. One of the parents worked on the set of Lost so she donated a bunch of things to auction off. My wife picked up a cool Lost Crew t-shirt. Well one of the things up for bid were these little statues they "claimed" were used on the show. My wife asked me if she should get one and said forget it. I think they were going for like $20. Turns out the little statues were, yep you got it:
(http://abc.go.com/primetime/lost/images/gallery/210/ep210_18_360x240.jpg)
The heroine filled Marys. I was so bummed when I saw that last night. They made a brief appearance last season.
Awsome man. Now lock the kid in his room, do some some H with the mrs and let the fun begin.
Picture of what came up when the numbers hit 0:
(http://homepage.mac.com/awaspaas/.Pictures/lost.jpg)
-The picture shown to Sayid of the little girl by the American Soldier was of Kate.
Quote from: SD_Eagle on February 16, 2006, 01:46:13 PM
-The picture shown to Sayid of the little girl by the American Soldier was of Kate.
Yeah, I caught that. Then Mrs. Feva reminded me that her dad was in the military (from one of her flashback episodes).
Quote from: SD_Eagle on February 16, 2006, 01:46:13 PM
Picture of what came up when the numbers hit 0:
(http://homepage.mac.com/awaspaas/.Pictures/lost.jpg)
Penis Feathered Bird Nerf Missile.
Mystery solved.
Quote from: SD_Eagle on February 16, 2006, 01:46:13 PM-The picture shown to Sayid of the little girl by the American Soldier was of Kate.
We wondered about that, and I rewound the DVR a little to check it. It was a little hard to tell, but it's entirely possible.
Also, I didn't notice this before, but I saw it mentioned elsewhere. On last week's episode, in the diner where Sawyer was planning the con with the other guy...the waitress was Kate's mother.
shtein, I totally missed it this week. F.
Quote from: Susquehanna Birder on February 16, 2006, 02:13:19 PM
Quote from: SD_Eagle on February 16, 2006, 01:46:13 PM-The picture shown to Sayid of the little girl by the American Soldier was of Kate.
We wondered about that, and I rewound the DVR a little to check it. It was a little hard to tell, but it's entirely possible.
Also, I didn't notice this before, but I saw it mentioned elsewhere. On last week's episode, in the diner where Sawyer was planning the con with the other guy...the waitress was Kate's mother.
Correct.
Also, the supposed 'other' captured said he arrived in a weather balloon and that his name was Henry Gale. Dorothy in the Wizard of Oz had an Uncle named Henry, her last name was Gale, and then there's the whole weather balloon thing. Just some food for thought.
The Wizard of Oz was a move. Lost is real. Stupid.
Quote from: SD_Eagle on February 16, 2006, 02:47:22 PM
Quote from: Susquehanna Birder on February 16, 2006, 02:13:19 PM
Quote from: SD_Eagle on February 16, 2006, 01:46:13 PM-The picture shown to Sayid of the little girl by the American Soldier was of Kate.
We wondered about that, and I rewound the DVR a little to check it. It was a little hard to tell, but it's entirely possible.
Also, I didn't notice this before, but I saw it mentioned elsewhere. On last week's episode, in the diner where Sawyer was planning the con with the other guy...the waitress was Kate's mother.
Correct.
Also, the supposed 'other' captured said he arrived in a weather balloon and that his name was Henry Gale. Dorothy in the Wizard of Oz had an Uncle named Henry, her last name was Gale, and then there's the whole weather balloon thing. Just some food for thought.
that was on preston and steve this morning.
they are in purgatory.
Quote from: MDS on February 16, 2006, 02:49:39 PM
The Wizard of Oz was a move. Lost is real. Stupid.
Where was it a move to?
From Kansas to the Emerald City, then back again.
Quotethey are in purgatory.
If this is confirmed I have a lot of gloating to do... I called that shtein crazy early.
Quote from: rjs246 on February 16, 2006, 02:58:50 PM
Quotethey are in purgatory.
If this is confirmed I have a lot of gloating to do... I called that shtein crazy early.
The writers keep denying that. It's becoming obvious that the characters aren't just random, they were brought there for a collective reason. I think the story is going to start to center around Claire's baby soon.
When the timer hit zero, you could here what sounded like an engine firing up.
Quote from: SD_Eagle on February 16, 2006, 02:57:04 PM
Quote from: MDS on February 16, 2006, 02:49:39 PM
The Wizard of Oz was a move. Lost is real. Stupid.
Where was it a move to?
they went to space and to hang with Hans Solo and Chewbaca, then came back to the island.
Quote from: MDS on February 16, 2006, 03:01:33 PM
Quote from: SD_Eagle on February 16, 2006, 02:57:04 PM
Quote from: MDS on February 16, 2006, 02:49:39 PM
The Wizard of Oz was a move. Lost is real. Stupid.
Where was it a move to?
they went to space and to hang with Hans Solo and Chewbaca, then came back to the island.
I didn't know he was German.
Quote from: SD_Eagle on February 16, 2006, 03:01:09 PM
Quote from: rjs246 on February 16, 2006, 02:58:50 PM
Quotethey are in purgatory.
If this is confirmed I have a lot of gloating to do... I called that shtein crazy early.
The writers keep denying that. It's becoming obvious that the characters aren't just random, they were brought there for a collective reason. I think the story is going to start to center around Claire's baby soon.
When the timer hit zero, you could here what sounded like an engine firing up.
yeah, and then as usual....nothing happened
stop whining. do you want the island to blow up in the middle of season 2?
i'm not whining, TV boy. just saying i think the show's not that good as it was in season 1.
i think its better. and my opinions are facts.
Quote from: SD_Eagle on February 16, 2006, 03:04:54 PM
Quote from: MDS on February 16, 2006, 03:01:33 PM
Quote from: SD_Eagle on February 16, 2006, 02:57:04 PM
Quote from: MDS on February 16, 2006, 02:49:39 PM
The Wizard of Oz was a move. Lost is real. Stupid.
Where was it a move to?
they went to space and to hang with Hans Solo and Chewbaca, then came back to the island.
I didn't know he was German.
(http://www.needlenose.com/images/arn_hanz_franz.jpg)
Quote from: SD_Eagle on February 16, 2006, 02:47:22 PM
Quote from: Susquehanna Birder on February 16, 2006, 02:13:19 PM
Quote from: SD_Eagle on February 16, 2006, 01:46:13 PM-The picture shown to Sayid of the little girl by the American Soldier was of Kate.
We wondered about that, and I rewound the DVR a little to check it. It was a little hard to tell, but it's entirely possible.
Also, I didn't notice this before, but I saw it mentioned elsewhere. On last week's episode, in the diner where Sawyer was planning the con with the other guy...the waitress was Kate's mother.
Correct.
Also, the supposed 'other' captured said he arrived in a weather balloon and that his name was Henry Gale. Dorothy in the Wizard of Oz had an Uncle named Henry, her last name was Gale, and then there's the whole weather balloon thing. Just some food for thought.
That's if his story wasn't total BS. He probably just made it up, which makes the coincidence moot.
After all, Sayid thinks he's an other and Sayid is never wrong.
The story was total BS IMO. He's an 'other'. No way a weather balloon travels that far off course, or that he's there that long and this is the first contact he has with anyone. When Jack walked in the room his eyes lit up like he knew who he was and that he was going to be taken care of.
If they are in Purgatory how can a baby be born? That doesn't make a lot of sense to me.
Quote from: NGM on February 16, 2006, 06:21:17 PM
If they are in Purgatory how can a baby be born? That doesn't make a lot of sense to me.
They aren't in Purgatory, the writers have stated that over and over again.
There is no logical way they can tie up all the coincidences unless it's paranormal.
The other was definatley lying. Thats why he used his background as one from a book.
island takes a life, island gives a life thoery was debunked when shannon died and nobody was born (unless.....).
according to lindelof and abrams, there is a logical explenation behind everything. im thinking this is some mad sociological scientific bla bla big words type of experiment gone wrong. i dont think theres anything paranormal or purgatoryish. that would ruin it for me if it gets to sci fi. im hoping whenever it raps up, its something remotley realistic (though obviously extreamly dramatized because its a tv show).
The problem with it being realistic is it would have to be insanely far-fetched or would have to be too complex to even understand. How would they logically explain the "monster"? Unless it is something like nano-bots. If that was the case, I don't understand how an underground corporation like Dharma could afford the technology and the scientists to create that type of technology.
I would actually prefer something paranormal. At least that way it could be explained in a way that doesn't make it much too far-fetched.
I thought it was interesting that Henry said his business was in some kind of metals. Was it non-magnetic metal or something like that?
Damn...I wish I had saved the recording.
He was a miner of non-something metals.
I grabbed the episode on iTunes. He was a miner of non-metallic minerals.
I also took some vidcaps of a couple of interesting things. First, the glyphs on the countown clock:
(http://www.susbirder.com/Lost/glyphs.jpg)
Here is the Kate's father on the truck:
(http://www.susbirder.com/Lost/kates_dad.jpg)
And here is the photo he's holding (definitely Kate):
(http://www.susbirder.com/Lost/kate.jpg)
And finally, regarding Henry's balloon story, I see people are speculating that he came up with the story based on the surroundings when he was being questioned. Here's a highlight of a picture that was on the wall:
(http://www.susbirder.com/Lost/balloon_pic.jpg)
Forget that last pic. From another angle, it's clear that it's not a balloon in the picture on the wall.
I'm almost convinced that the bunker is part of a nucler missle silo. When the timer went to zero, you could hear the mechanicals starting to move, but Jack reset it. And remember the thing with Kate and her pendant being attracted to something magnetic? I'm thinking that it was the magnets in the big motors that are required to move all the silo doors and the like.
Anyway, it'll be a damned repeat this week. At least 24 will be a new show.
Just so you know there are two more three week breaks coming up. That may start the beginning of the end of my patience with this show. It moves slow as it is, on top of that they have breaks every other week.
Quote from: Philly Forever on February 20, 2006, 12:30:29 AM
Just so you know there are two more three week breaks coming up. That may start the beginning of the end of my patience with this show. It moves slow as it is, on top of that they have breaks every other week.
I'm right there with you. I love this show but my patience are wearing thin, I don't so much mind it when there's a new episode that explains nothing, but when the season consists of more re-runs then it does shows there's a problem.
In the end, the same amount of episodes will air as last year, and as any other show. According to a schedule I found, they will have the Claire episode on March 1 then take 4 weeks off (yikes) before running straight through the end of the year (there might be a recap show or week off in there).
Last year, they aired 2 episodes between the end of Feb sweeps and the beginning of May sweeps. They moved around the sked this year so things would be heavier towards the backload (teehee) of the season. Calm down.
Quote from: MDS on February 20, 2006, 11:51:13 AM
Calm down.
Make me. :P
They should send Jack Bauer to the island to take care of the Others.
if jack bauer was on the lost island...they'd all be home by now. in fact they never would have crashed. jack would have held the plane together in mid air until they could have landed safely. and lost would have been nothing more than an extended superbowl commercial telling you to drink gatorade.
If Jack Bauer was on that island, he'd be dead by now. Why? No cell service.
Jack would make a coconut cell phone.
jack's dead sillies.
Quote from: Philly Forever on February 20, 2006, 04:41:49 PM
Jack would make a coconut cell phone.
That's McGyver nitwit.
Besides, Chuck Norris would stand on the back side of the island and begin a flurry of roundhouse kicks thus propelling the island back to civilization.
Quote from: Sgt PSN on February 20, 2006, 08:49:12 PM
Quote from: Philly Forever on February 20, 2006, 04:41:49 PM
Jack would make a coconut cell phone.
That's McGyver nitwit.
Besides, Chuck Norris would stand on the back side of the island and begin a flurry of roundhouse kicks thus propelling the island back to civilization.
thats not bad, private. you should send it into the facts site.
FINALLY a great episode!
-Russo was in the room they were going to operate on Claire. The girl who helped Claire escape was obviously her daughter Alex. They probably did the same thing to her but she somehow escaped.
-Kate found costumes, and a case containing theater glue and a fake beard. The 'Others' are dressing up like savages to scare the rest of the people on the island. As evidenced by Ethan, Alex, and the doctors prepping the room for surgery, they have decent clothes and are probably very civilized.
I'll have to raid the Lost boards to find some other bits of info.
Now we get to wait two weeks for a mediocre episode.
Yea, the dorks with the screenshots need to come through. there was a bunch of stuff in there.
I don't think Russo was in there before Claire led them to it.
The guy who pulled Ethan away from Claire was the same guy from the boat ("...we're gonna have to take the boy") and Jack's island encounter ("...you live here because we let you live"), sans the makeup.
Quote from: Susquehanna Birder on March 02, 2006, 07:23:22 AM
I don't think Russo was in there before Claire led them to it.
The guy who pulled Ethan away from Claire was the same guy from the boat ("...we're gonna have to take the boy") and Jack's island encounter ("...you live here because we let you live"), sans the makeup.
Did you see the look on Russo's face when she entered that room? And it was the same guy, he goes by Zeke.
Found this on Preston and Steve's website. New Dharma video (http://www.prestonandsteve.com/video/144.wmv) Looks legit, I don't have a sound card so I couldn't hear what was being said.
i forgot it was on. and i dont even remember what i was doing instead.
maybe my tivo caught it. i dunno. i'll be sure to catch the important part (oh wait, everything is an important clue) when they do yet another recap show and pass it off as new.
http://www.honoluluadvertiser.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060303/NEWS06/603030356/1010/NEWS
Josh Holloway "Sawyer" update.
Almost all of the episodes are on Limewire... I missed the last couple while in Ukraine, so I downloaded them one night, and watched them the next. No commercials, and free to "borrow" :paranoid
And you can get them legitimately via iTunes ($2 each). Or even not legitimately via BitTorrent.
Quote from: DemonchildrenOnTurf on March 04, 2006, 05:23:16 PM
Almost all of the episodes are on Limewire... I missed the last couple while in Ukraine, so I downloaded them one night, and watched them the next. No commercials, and free to "borrow" :paranoid
Better off using torrents. Faster, better quality files, and more trust-worthy.
Crappy episode tonight. Everyone knew Sun was pregnant, only shock to me was she wasn't whoring around with her English teacher. (Either that or she's a good liar). Wasn't too pissed off because this episode was a good setup for next weeks episode. After hearing Henry Gale speak about a possible setup I thought there was no way he wasn't an other, but in next weeks preview they show the balloon. I think the balloons been there for sometime and he made up the story, the others are smart.
She's lying.
Quote from: Susquehanna Birder on March 22, 2006, 10:32:05 PM
She's lying.
I thought so too but didn't think she was that deceptive. Was also thinking that the island healed Jin's swimmers sort of like it healed Locke.
Who farged her on the island? I say Michael. We'll now when the baby comes out (in about 4 seasons) a brother.
I also think it was Michael. This episode wasn't all that great, but next week's looks farging awesome.
Quote from: MDS on March 22, 2006, 11:33:08 PM
Who farged her on the island? I say Michael. We'll now when the baby comes out (in about 4 seasons) a brother.
My wife saw Jun in our local super market Wednesday evening. I see him every so often at 24 Hour Fitness. It's so tempting to just walk up to him and say "What the farg is going on man? Please tell me! Tell me please!" Kind of like what i want to do when I see Dog Chapman.
Proof that Henry Gale is an Other? (http://wktz.jones.edu/images/HenryG_Other.bmp) Certainly looks that way.
maybe a bit of a stretch, but it looks like em
Great episode tonight, I think that map/code thing is a sign that all the Dharma stations/projects are related to one master plan. Ending was stellar, I knew all along Gale was a shady farg trying to get inside the Losties camp to spy.
Ha. Locke got dumped by Peg Bundy.
Larger version of map (http://lost.cubit.net/pics/2x17/blastDoorMap.jpg)
(http://www.notworksafe.com/picshare/hatchwall.jpg)
that was fast. but the nerds will disect it and get a full description of every word on that thing soon enough.
You know those crazies don't farg around, I'm sure it'll be superimposed and dissected by the morning.
This came from someone on the EMB, but if you look at the symbol at the 8 o'clock it looks like the God of Fertility:
(http://www.mediabuilder.com/mb_content/stll_kokopelli.jpg)
Pretty sure thats the word Fertility underneath it too.
what the farg does this all mean?
yo also, the real henry gale was a brotha. that made four black people on the island. maybe its enough for igy to start watching.
Okay, here's a High resolution large pic of the map (http://img87.imageshack.us/img87/1203/lost2cb.jpg). If you look at the bottom, it says 'P.R.D.' which stands for 'Planned Rotation Date' meaning the map was probably drawn by Desmond who was expecting his relief.
Quote from: MDS on March 29, 2006, 10:34:30 PM
Ha. Locke got dumped by Peg Bundy.
Every time I'd get into this episode tonight I'd have visions of this:
(http://www.firsttvdrama.com/neverf/futurama.gif)
Best pictures I could find of the blast door image.
http://img76.imageshack.us/img76/7088/blastdoormapoverlay1wj.jpg
http://www.thehatchonline.com/images/dharmadoor.jpg
i still dont know what any of that means
congrats to the lost nerds for getting a 4 hour head start on breaking down the map. little did they know that entertainment weekly got a clear, thorough shot of the map and the page is now leaked. have fun.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v301/kimsphotos/lost/243bfbf3.jpg)
Cool. I checked on the latin phrases, and here's what I found:
Quote
Ut sit magna, tamen certe lenta ira deorum est - The wrath of the gods may be great, but it certainly is slow
Sursum corda - Lift up your hearts
Credo nos in fluctu eodem esse - I think we're on the same wavelength
Cogito ergo doleo - I think therefore I am depressed
Hic sunt dracones - Here be dragons. (Expression often used by old mapmakers and placed at the edge of known areas on maps.)
Liberate te ex inferis - Save yourself from hell
Malum consilium quod mutari non potest - It's a bad plan that can't be changed.
References to cerebus are interesting. In mythology, Cerebus is the 3-headed creature that guards the entrance to Hell.
And an interesting reference to Black Rock on there, too.
Some loser spent all day deciphering what the map said (http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c272/christhisis/lost_dharma_decoded-751672.jpg)
Quote from: SD_Eagle on March 30, 2006, 06:57:02 PM
Some loser spent all day deciphering what the map said (http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c272/christhisis/lost_dharma_decoded-751672.jpg)
and hundreds of thousands of more losers have been reading it all day 8)
wow what a dorky fan base this show has
Quote from: SD_Eagle on March 30, 2006, 06:57:02 PM
Some loser spent all day deciphering what the map said (http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c272/christhisis/lost_dharma_decoded-751672.jpg)
That's a cropped version of the one MDS had in his post.
Nothing wrong with enjoying the whole mystery angle of the show.
Since the 'mystery angle' is the show I agree, but some of those crazies go a bit overboard.
Welcome to the internet.
Lost promo for next week from Canada, gives a bit more away, but nothing spoilerific. so have it, Hoydas: woopee (http://www.thetailsection.com/lost.Dave.Canadian.avi)
also: Shot of Gale's liscense (http://www.thetailsection.com/uploaded_images/gale_license-708286.jpg)
also a scheduling update. new episodes the next two weeks (hurley centric "dave," and bernad/rose centric "s.o.s"). then two weeks off (one of which is the 2hr alias return, and the other might be a recap special). then the final 4 episodes in may. the first one is called "two for the road." no clue who the centric character is in that one.
hurley is crazy. so is libby. so thats why she wants him. well, shes not an other like previously thought. good lil twist at the end with that.
wanted more henry gale stuff, but interesting episode with the hole hurley/libby situation. next week looks like a dandy. ill probably end up watching it at 11 considering its the first passover sedar, and i have to go home and bla bla you all care.
Quote from: MDS on April 05, 2006, 10:49:33 PM
hurley is crazy. so is libby. so thats why she wants him. well, shes not an other like previously thought. good lil twist at the end with that.
wanted more henry gale stuff, but interesting episode with the hole hurley/libby situation. next week looks like a dandy. ill probably end up watching it at 11 considering its the first passover sedar, and i have to go home and bla bla you all care.
You hit on all points except for the Jew stuff.
Twist at the end was great, but for a moment I thought they were going to off the fatman sort of like they did with Edgar on 24. It was pretty obvious from the getgo Dave was Hurley's alter-ego. More Henry Gale stuff next week, from the looks of the preview Jack gets caught in a net.
they need to bring back shannon and have a ladies of lost porno.
That would be nice, I miss the Maggie Grace bikini scenes. Those long legs of hers are insane.
yea next week will probably be awsome. the flashback is of rose and bernanrd. since theyre not real cast members, the plot will really be island centric since neither character is gonna have a lot of depth. itll probably just be some B story in the plot that shows how much the two love each other or something.
He lied about not pushing the button.
They wouldn't have built it up for so long to have it do nothing.
Or maybe he was telling the truth, and it did something, but they just don't know it yet.
He's been screwing with them all along. The question is if he's being truthful now, or if he's still manipulating them. It looks like Jack tries to offer him back to The Others next week. I'm thiinking that they would rather sneak in and kill him before they make any kind of deal.
After Hurley's episode, I'm once again leaning toward the idea that they are all in some kind of collective pseudo-world. Something like The Matrix.
http://www.khnl.com/Global/story.asp 4819043
You go girl! She was on a flight of mine in February from LA and was actually very nice. Everyone recognized her and she was cordial and signed autographs.
A .14 for her second offense, and she only got five days and a $500 fine? Either she's getting preferential treatment or HI's DUI laws are pretty weak.
Is Lost a new one, or a repeat tonight? I thought it was going to be a rerun...but I can't tell from the description.
recap special. final 4 start next week.
I hate that. Technically, it's "new," but it's just a clip show. Cheap-assed way to squeeze out an extra show.
I have to give credit to the makers of 24 for not doing that.
would you rather have a repeat or a recap? fox airs 24 with no repeats. lost has a normal schedule, although they will adapt next year and go to a 8-7-8 type schedule (8 episodes in a row, 7 in a row, etc, but with longer hiatuses inbetween).
It doesn't matter if they show either. I'm not going to watch it. There are too many alternatives on TV (and in life) to put up with rehashed crap like that.
Quote from: Susquehanna Birder on April 26, 2006, 01:00:43 PM
It doesn't matter if they show either. I'm not going to watch it. There are too many alternatives on TV (and in life) to put up with rehashed crap like that.
I always think that, then they show a really great episode and hook me back in. bastiches.
Quote from: SD_Eagle on April 26, 2006, 02:32:42 PM
Quote from: Susquehanna Birder on April 26, 2006, 01:00:43 PM
It doesn't matter if they show either. I'm not going to watch it. There are too many alternatives on TV (and in life) to put up with rehashed crap like that.
I always think that, then they show a really great episode and hook me back in. bastiches.
Tell me about it. That's how I got hooked on The Partridge Family. farging Susan Dey.
Quote from: MDS on April 26, 2006, 12:30:01 PM
would you rather have a repeat or a recap?
A recap show is the same as a repeat if you're all caught up.
I watched about 20 minutes of that dreck after the Flyers game (waiting for Invasion). Horrible.
i know the scheduling sucks, but all in all there are the same amount of episodes as last year. only difference is they had a 2hr pilot last year, which gave them one extra hour to put on. quit crying you pack of bitches.
That might have been the best episode ever.
Holy shtein at the ending.
**SPOILERS IF YOU DIDN'T SEE IT**
I think that Libby may not be dead. She had a cushion or blankets that the bullets had to pass through, plus we never saw her back story yet. I think it was obvious Michael did it to pin the blame on henry or because the others asked him to. I think Libby was an accident. He shot himself to look like he put up a fight.
I thought that too, but think about it, if Libby's still alive she's going to foil Michael's plan, so she has to be dead. Poor Hurley, fat dude finally gets a chick and now she's toast.
She could be knocked out for a while and forget everything that happened. It happened so fast.
Libby will not be dead. But, she will be passed out or something and wont be able to speak. Like she'll wake up and tell everyone after Michael left with the group to go take The Others.
GREAT episode, though. I figured Michael was an Other, but did not see that coming.
Quote from: MDS on May 03, 2006, 10:39:04 PM
Libby will not be dead. But, she will be passed out or something and wont be able to speak. Like she'll wake up and tell everyone after Michael left with the group to go take The Others.
GREAT episode, though. I figured Michael was an Other, but did not see that coming.
See, I'm not sure he's actually an Other. I think they made a deal with him to get Gale back. Ana killed one of their's so they wanted revenge. Maybe Gale's original plan was to kill Ana. Or maybe she just got in the way and Michael took advantage of the oppurtunity since he had her pistol and no one else was around. It's pretty obvious Gale's just farging with Locke, he's been doing so for so long. What a mind boggling episode, its like crack.
Could be. But what the F is Michael gonna do after? Like, is his plan to just chill with Walt in the middle of the jungle forever? No, he's bringing Gale back (so they can presumably make him pay for his failure) and he'll live with them and Walt. Like will our survivors accept Michael back into the group after what he just did and the big stunt he's trying to pull? Damn this is gettin good. Can't wait for next week.
I think Henry was actually honest with Locke tonight.
But it's also a possibility that Michael just did it to piss off the survivors so they would all follow him into the others camp.
Also they were probably well armed, and he made up the part about them not being armed so they'd go with him.
Quote from: Bunkley "The Thing" on May 03, 2006, 10:47:44 PM
I think Henry was actually honest with Locke tonight.
But it's also a possibility that Michael just did it to piss off the survivors so they would all follow him into the others camp.
Also they were probably well armed, and he made up the part about them not being armed so they'd go with him.
I think Henry's been farging with Locke all along.
When Michael was talking about the Others and how they were a bunch of savages, did you see them pan to Kate's face? She knows they're in costumes and a light went on in her head. I think that was a foreshadow of Michael being exposed.
Quote from: MDS on May 03, 2006, 10:47:42 PM
Could be. But what the F is Michael gonna do after? Like, is his plan to just chill with Walt in the middle of the jungle forever? No, he's bringing Gale back (so they can presumably make him pay for his failure) and he'll live with them and Walt. Like will our survivors accept Michael back into the group after what he just did and the big stunt he's trying to pull? Damn this is gettin good. Can't wait for next week.
I'm pretty sure Gale just leaves, Michael doesn't escort him back to their camp. If Libby's dead, maybe Walt gets released. I'm sure the survivors will want an explanation but won't care since they have him back.
I've been thinking that maybe the others aren't actually bad. Henry pointed out that Goodwin may not have actually been trying to kill Ana Lucia. Maybe they are actually good and have another purpose.
Quote from: Bunkley "The Thing" on May 03, 2006, 10:54:20 PM
I've been thinking that maybe the others aren't actually bad. Henry pointed out that Goodwin may not have actually been trying to kill Ana Lucia. Maybe they are actually good and have another purpose.
Possibly, that ran through my mind too. But you're underestimating Gale, he constantly lies. When he was talking about the 'leader' being a great but not forgiving man, it almost reminded me of something biblical.
everyone go to thehansofoundation.org
then go to newsletter and type in any name, then for password use Breaking Strain for the password.
You'll get a weird message.
Also it's cool to explore.
Quote from: Bunkley "The Thing" on May 03, 2006, 11:17:27 PM
everyone go to thehansofoundation.org
then go to newsletter and type in any name, then for password use Breaking Strain for the password.
You'll get a weird message.
Also it's cool to explore.
Its for a game, google Lost experience. Here are some clues (http://experience-lost.blogspot.com/)
Send Joop a letter there and you get to read a hidden letter.
Between the two at least wounded tonight and next week's preview showing Ekko "falling", it looks like all of the Tailies are potentially facing extinction...at least all but the older guy (Rose's husband) appear to be in jeopardy at the moment. Coincidence?
Didn't see that coming tonight.
Mary mother of christ! Tonight was unreal. I was sitting here watching it thinking that this show is starting to get lame but that ending tonight put that thought to rest. Next three weeks are goona be cool.
I know there's some debate here about Libby's demise...but she might be a goner-- the actress who plays her has signed on to play a lead in a sitcom coming soon. (http://www.eonline.com/News/Items/0,1,18835,00.html?rsslatest)
Regarding Libby and Ana, supposedly their real life drinking habits were starting to become a problem, which is why they were killed off.
Lindelof and Cuse reiterated that their personal affairs had nothing to do with them dieing.
Also, it is "unclear" if Libby survived. Again, my guess is she is still alive but won't be able to speak out against Michael's evil ways until it's too late.
I have a few spoilers for future episodes if anyone wants them. If not I'll keep my trap shut. They aren't major plot spoilers, but do reveal a few things as to character appearances and an event that happens.
I'll make sure to mark it or disguise it if anyone does want them. So it won't spoil it for anyone else.
I know one of the spoilers. I found an episode on the net where they went 'matrix' style for one episode. Awesome surprise at the end of the episode to help you understand 'the island' a little better. Pretty dope! :yay
:CF
of course this is all bullshtein, I don't even watch the show.
course this is all bullshtein, I don't even watch the show
Quote from: Bunkley "The Thing" on May 04, 2006, 06:23:24 PM
I have a few spoilers for future episodes if anyone wants them. If not I'll keep my trap shut. They aren't major plot spoilers, but do reveal a few things as to character appearances and an event that happens.
I'll make sure to mark it or disguise it if anyone does want them. So it won't spoil it for anyone else.
Fire away
**LOST SPOILERS FOR FUTURE EPISODES!**
The guy Kelvin that Desmond mentioned in the first episode makes an appearance in the finale. So does Dr. Marvin Candle who is the guy in the Dharma films. Not sure if he makes an appearance in another film or on the island. Also supposedly Eko doesn't die in the next episode, and in the season finale the hatch/bunker gets destroyed.
Interesting. Good spoilers whereas they give you a glimpse of whats happening but don't really ruin much of the plot. Where did you find them at?
Spoilerfix.com Wikipedia, thefuselage.com, and uhh... I think that's it.
I didn't look at many spoilers. I tried not to get out of control and completely ruin the rest of the season for myself. I'm not going to look at anymore.
Oh, and this isn't a spoiler, but in the next episode I think we find out what the ? is in the blast door map:
http://img143.imageshack.us/img143/3138/cleanwall7074844yd.jpg
The next episode is titled "?".
Any guesses as to what it is?
Quote from: Bunkley "The Thing" on May 04, 2006, 06:51:36 PM
**LOST SPOILERS FOR FUTURE EPISODES!**
The guy Kelvin that Desmond mentioned in the first episode makes an appearance in the finale. So does Dr. Marvin Candle who is the guy in the Dharma films. Not sure if he makes an appearance in another film or on the island. Also supposedly Eko doesn't die in the next episode, and in the season finale the hatch/bunker gets destroyed.
whatever, when i see jevon walker in the hatch i'll beleive it
Don't hate the messenger, hate the spoiler sites.
Another crazy great episode. The story is really chugging along towards the season finale.
The hatch that the survivors are typing numbers in is obviously of great importance. Locke's faith was compromised by the orientation video but Eko is like his guide to keep him on the straight path. Of course, now I can't wait till next weeks episode.
Did anybody else notice the Hanso commercial? Did you go to the website?
http://www.sublymonal.com/
I tried, and I only got so far...but it looks like I have an older Flash version, and my PC is giving me fits.
My guess is on the log sheet, they find something on there that stands out, and possibly have Michael shooting everyone on video.
and maybe Libby wakes up from her death like the girl in Eko's flashback did.
Any guesses to what the survivors say 'Oh my God' to in next weeks episode?
I've had a theory all season that maybe another plane crashes on the island. Maybe that's what it is.
Maybe a boat.
Quote from: SD_Eagle on May 10, 2006, 10:39:24 PM
Any guesses to what the survivors say 'Oh my God' to in next weeks episode?
they realize the plot twists lead to fan boy interent clues.
Quote from: Bunkley "The Thing" on May 10, 2006, 10:40:37 PM
I've had a theory all season that maybe another plane crashes on the island. Maybe that's what it is.
Maybe a boat.
Very interesting.
I was thinking it was Walt and Michael, they didn't look scared but who knows with this show. Post the trailer for next week if you come across it.
Also "Zeke" in the preview seems to be beating someone up with some sort of whip it looked like.
I doubt the entire island would all look over in shock if it's just something like Walt. It would have to be something huge.
Also about the episode, I think it's pretty safe to assume now that the ? hatch is connected to at least one hatch, because of the air transportation chute. They could all be connected. Maybe that line that connects them all on the blast door map is the air chute networking them all.
Also did you notice the guy on the tape changed his name from the previous tape? He used to be Dr. Marvin Candle, now he is Mark Whittman. Also he seemed to have lost his prosthetic arm.
Yes, I noticed that about the Doctor too. So that was Zeke in the trailer? I wasn't sure if it was him or if it was Rose's husband.
Yeah, it was Zeke.
Is it just me or does the guy on the Dharma tape freak anyone else out? He's scary looking.
IMO he's the most mysterious guy of them all.
Great episode. My first one watching in HD. Can't wait 'till next week. Michael gonna get got.
Locke and Eko should go back to the security hatch and light one of the dynamite sticks and send it through the air chute to the dharma guys.
Also I captioned Lost on my Tivo and the guy said his name was Mark Wickmund not Wittman. Marvin Candle... Mark WICKmund? Anyone catch the similarity? Also he mentioned leaving by the Pala Ferry. Whatever that is. Must mean there's a ferry on the island or somewhere near it.
Or there was at one time. Remember the copyright on the tape (by Hanso, btw) is dated 1980.
Great episode. They always leave you wanting more...
Quote from: Susquehanna Birder on May 10, 2006, 10:30:17 PM
Did anybody else notice the Hanso commercial? Did you go to the website?
http://www.sublymonal.com/
I tried, and I only got so far...but it looks like I have an older Flash version, and my PC is giving me fits.
I got the new password "heir apparent" of that site & plugged it into the newletter section. I was told to call the call center number found in the TV ad section....but am having a hard time finding any number.
That add is sponsored by Sprite, I'm guessing 'Heir Apparent' is referring to LeBron James. Some of the words like 'Obey' (Obey your thirst)
If that's the case, I hate those fargers.
Be sure to drink your Ovaltine.
(http://crossspot.net/bws/Ralphie.jpg)
Quote from: Susquehanna Birder on May 11, 2006, 12:27:44 PM
If that's the case, I hate those fargers.
EDIT: LeWingspan beat me to the joke. >:(
Did this last night.
-Take that password and go to thehansofoundation.org
-Click on exec bios
-Click on Dr Thomas Mittlewerk
-Type heir apparent into the text space.
-Hit enter.
My friend said hitting enter didn't work for him, but it did for me. So I don't know what's up with that.
Also the Pearl bunker had a camera in that too, which might mean they as well are being monitored.
Quote from: Bunkley "The Thing" on May 11, 2006, 03:06:34 PM
Did this last night.
-Take that password and go to thehansofoundation.org
-Click on exec bios
-Click on Dr Thomas Mittlewerk
-Type heir apparent into the text space.
-Hit enter.
Worked for me thanks! Now go to "Joops Corner" & click "Send Joop a Message", type "heir apparent" or "breaking strain" in that space & send. Connect the circles for a letter to appear.
Quote from: Bunkley "The Thing" on May 10, 2006, 11:00:40 PM
Also did you notice the guy on the tape changed his name from the previous tape? He used to be Dr. Marvin Candle, now he is Mark Whittman. Also he seemed to have lost his prosthetic arm.
Noticed it as well. What did the Doc say when he bowed at the end of the tape?
Sure gonna miss Ann Lucia :'(
I'd like to remember her like this
(http://www.mclaughlinlabs.com/leigh/galleries/new_modeling/new00107.jpg)
or like this:
(http://www.mclaughlinlabs.com/leigh/galleries/new_modeling/new00079.jpg)
but not like this:
(http://www.sfgate.com/blogs/images/sfgate/dailydish/2005/12/30/ga_dish_lostladies225x115.jpg)
Quote from: Don Ho on May 11, 2006, 04:41:13 PM
Quote from: Bunkley "The Thing" on May 10, 2006, 11:00:40 PM
Also did you notice the guy on the tape changed his name from the previous tape? He used to be Dr. Marvin Candle, now he is Mark Whittman. Also he seemed to have lost his prosthetic arm.
Noticed it as well. What did the Doc say when he bowed at the end of the tape?
He said namaste and good luck.
I got some pretty big Lost spoilers if anyone wants them. I only read some of it myself, but I saw some pretty big spoilers in there. They will ruin some stuff for you, but if you don't care I will post them if you want(small font of course). It basically gives some good info about the finale. I read a small bit of it and I found out some stuff about Desmond that I didn't want to know, but oh well. I stopped reading after that point.
Anyone want it? I didn't even read hardly any of it myself, but I'll post it if anyone wants it.
I love Spoilers so yes please. I don't take many of them serious because with Lost there are so many, but please give me what you got.
**LOST SEASON FINALE SPOILERS***
We are treated to DESMOND flashbacks in this episode right off the bat, I'm hearing. Here I have some exclusive info regarding the flashback material we will see, leaked to me by legit inside sources.
I'm aware that many people have probably already read the latest leaked spoilers on this episode...yes, that information is DEFINITELY the real deal and is all very exciting stuff indeed. The following info should tie some of that together and clear it up. Typing fast here though...I have to make this quick now. Again, what I'm telling you now are legit spoilers for the Season 2 finale.
Opening scene will show us exactly where Desmond has been since he ran off in episode 203, sort of as a parallel of the first scene of the season two premiere. Michael found him, during his absence in the jungle looking for Walt--he's hidden up in The Flame station--where Kelvin told him he should head to in case of emergency. Anyway, now onto the flashbacks here...
Desmond's last name is Cook. Desmond Cook. Desmond got engaged to "Penny," daughter of rich steel tycoon "Cameron"--whom Desmond worked for in a drilling business. The business was owned by Widmore Construction, and get this - here's where things get really crazy - the founders of Widmore Construction are Harold and LIBBY Widmore. Later in life, when Desmond prepares for his race around the world, Libby allows him to use her husband's boat. All that flashback material covers the first hour.
The second hour of flashback material shows Desmond on the island...with Kelvin, the hatch, the numbers, everything. We will see exactly how Desmond crashed there, which will give you a HUGE hint as to how FLIGHT 815 crashed as well. Kelvin is a slightly stocky man with glasses and matted hair. Desmond crashes into the reef (there's something about him losing his ring), is dragged ashore just as he told Jack and crew. Soon we have Desmond being dragged by Kelvin through the jungle into the hatch...Kelvin lays him down on the sofa, rushes to the computer, types in the numbers.
The lines, spoken verbatim, were just as Des said:
"What was all that about, then?"
"Just saving the world..."
Everything that follows in the FLASHBACK material (and there is a lot of it) is pretty much as you would expect, going on what Desmond told the castaways, save for a few more surprises...How the flashbacks eventually tie in with the events on the island though are supposed to be revolutionary. I'm paraphrasing a bit here, but somehow what we have here will really mess with our minds--something that interweaves and ties all these characters and storylines together is supposed to be revealed.
So, think what you will, again this info IS completely legitimate, I assure you. I've only heard a little of the events that occur on the island but just going from this--what I've been told--it sounds like one hell of a finale.
Thanks, I heard before the season finale was very Desmond based but hadn't heard the rest of that jazz. Sounds pretty legit, can't wait.
Also this link has some spoiler pictures for the next episode.
LOST NEXT EPISODE SPOILERS!
http://www.lostpedia.com/wiki/The_Door
Ha, I called the boat.
Weak episode in general but next week is obviously going to blow us away.
It was pretty weak, but at least we know more about the others, even though they are all in disguises.
Another Hanso "commercial" this week. In small print, at the bottom of the screen, it said "sponsored by Jeep." I guess they just need somebody to help pay for the time that spot takes up. Last time it was Sprite, which led people to think it was just a Sprite commercial.
The question the one Other (the black woman) asked Michael - about Walt - was interesting.
Ms. Clue was a bitch. I hope Sawyer pounds her then kills her.
One last ****LOST SPOILER***** for SD since he seems to be the only one that reads them.
Note: This one didn't come from nearly as credible a source as the other sites I got them from, so this could be totally wrong, but nonetheless I sorta expected this anyway. I found it on a board, that found it on a board, that found it on a board, etc...
Sayid gets shot and maybe dies
If true, I sorta expected it because Mrs. Klugh specifically said only bring the people on the list. That can only mean something bad if an unwanted Sayid shows up.
I'm managing a store on the Wildwood boardwalk (Electric Beach) this summer and have way too much to do before Memorial Day Weekend, so if there was any way I could get a somewhat detailed recap from one of you guys (I'm thinking Bunkley or MDS is my best candidate) it would be greatly appreciated.
I'll post a recap for you, a little bit after the show ends.
Some people(not sure which region) are getting Lost now, well, they already saw it apparently. I was reading some boards and I only read one opinion on it(non-spoiler) and they said it was a bit of a letdown.
No idea which region saw it because I don't think Canada even got it yet. So they could just be lying in general.
Thanks bro, I'm very appreciative. Had plans to go to Preston and Steve's Lost finale at the Troc but had to cancel.
You'll be able to download it via torrent if you just want to wait a day or two.
torrent files are usually up by middle of the night on the night that it airs
live free streaming video on abc.com by noon thursday
download for 1.99 of itunes
no recaps coming from me, star wars geek.
Wow, I thought that was a great season finale. It answered a lot of questions, but it also created many more. Tremendous episode, makes you wonder if Walt and Michael are out of the show for good.
Wow. Did the Russian dude at the end say "him" or "it"? as in the island, or desmond.
So Michael and Walt are gone....kinda
Locke, Ecko and Desmond are...dead?
Sun, Jin and Sayid are on the boat, perhaps they come across Michael in season 3
Jack, Sawyer and Kate are going back to the others camp, as we will see what it looks like
Is Henry--him? I thought he could be, and it seemed like he was in control.
an EMP blast can't kill you, so they should all be alive in the hatch.
It's just a blast of magnetic pulse, which can't hurt you.
I'll write up a summary for you in a bit SD...
Quote from: Bunkley78 on May 24, 2006, 11:10:55 PM
an EMP blast can't kill you, so they should all be alive in the hatch.
It's just a blast of magnetic pulse, which can't hurt you.
I'll write up a summary for you in a bit SD...
What? You don't really know what happens there yet.
The look Kate and Jack gave to each other was curious at the end, wonder what that means?
I don't know what happened, but do you think they'd really like 2 MAJOR characters die without a big-time death scene?
Plus an EMP bomb can't kill you. I mean if you have metal attached to you it could rip it right off your arm, but an EMP itself can't kill you.
Plus, think about it. When it said system failure, there was enough electro-magnetism to pull down a plane thousands of feet in the sky. Not to mention how heavy a plane is. If it's that strong, and people were standing in the room, and it could hurt you, you'd be dead already.
Summary for SD:(may need to edit a few times if I forget something that comes to me later)
Before reading you can watch the episodes on ABC.com so don't read if you'd prefer to do that.
They all run out to the boat and Jack finds Desmond there piss drunk. He explains he sailed for 2 weeks in a direction(forget what direction) and he should've found land by then but all that happened was he ended up back near the island. He said they are stuck in a "snow globe" and there's no leaving the island.
Locke tries to destroy the computer but Eko stops him. Eko beats him up and kicks him out of the hatch. So then eventually Locke and Desmond meet up and talk. Locke tells Desmond about The Pearl hatch and asks Desmond to help him stop Eko from pushing the button. He said it needs to be done. Desmond agrees, so they lure Eko out and Desmond short circuits the the fuse box and the blast doors close and lock Eko out and Locke and Desmond in with the computer.
Meanwhile there was Desmond flashbacks going on throughout the whole episode. I'll summarize entire flashback right now or else I'll be jumping back and forth in this entire summary.
Desmond got kicked out of the royal army(forget the country, dammit) and got his things and left. He gets in a car, with a guy named Widmore. He's Desmond's girlfriend's father. Anyway, he says his daughter has moved on from him and is getting married, and offers Desmond a lot of money to just leave and start a new life. Desmond turns it down and is determined to get her back. One day he runs into Libby in a cafe or some place and they get to talking. He explains his story to her and tells her he's doing a race around the world. The winner apparently gets something from Widmore.
Libby tells him her husband had a boat and she gives it to Desmond. So he's sailing on it and gets knocked out in rough seas. He wakes up on an island and a guy in a quarantine suit and oxygen mask picks him up and takes him to the hatch. It turns out to be:
http://triviana.com/inter/clancy.jpg
The guy who struck a deal with Sayid in the war and let him go and gave him money. He's Kelvin. Anyway, he introduces Desmond to the whole hatch and everything. One day Desmond looks for him ad can't find him and he sees a floor panel opened. He crawls in and sees Kelvin down there drunk with a key next to an ignition type thing in the floor and says he can't do it. Desmond asks him what the incident was from the film adn Desmond says it's electro-magnetic and it was leaked, and it keeps growing until you hit the button to stop it. Desmond asks what happens when you turn the key in the thing and he says the whole place disappears. Then one day Desmond follows him out of the hatch and finds him along shore cliffs on the island. Desmond finds out he was secretly repairing Desmond's boat and was trying to escape. Desmond gets mad and accidentally kills him by knocking him into a rock and he bashes his skull in accidentally. I'll get to the rest of the flasback later
Back to present.
Sayid makes a plan with Jack for Michael. The plan is Sayid takes Jin and Sun on the boat around the island to scope out the other's camp, then come back around and make a signal smoke fire on the island. Then when Jack sees it when they are on their way, they stop and meet Sayid, Jin, and Sun and all invade the camp.
Well Sayid goes in the camp, and it's completely empty. The hatch is empty as well. Nothing is in it, an empty room.
A giant bird that hums the word "Hurley" attacks Jack, Kate, Sawyer, Michael, and Hurley on their way to the camp. On the way they see 2 people following them. Sawyer kills one of them and they let the other get away. Jack forces Michael to confess his plan and he does. They continue on their way and eventually get ambushed and the others knock them all out with some type of darts while hidden in bushes. They all get carried away knocked out except Michael, who's conscious.
Back at the hatch, Eko gets Charlie to help get through the blast doors. Charlie shows him the dynamite stash and they try to blow it up. It doesn't work and both get messed up pretty bad.
**Desmond flashback**
After where I left you off, and he accidentally kills Kelvin, he takes the Dharma key off from around his neck and runs back to the hatch. The timer wnet all the way down and the hatch is shaking like crazy. Things are flying and getting knocked over, and the speakers keep saying "system failure" over and over again. Theres a bunch of crap on the computer, which prevents him from seeing what to type, but eventually he types in the code and hits execute and it stops the hatch from getting destroyed. So now you know the button does prevent something. The hatch has a powerful electro-magnetism that goes out of control. Kelvin wasn't lying.
**Back to present**
Desmond tells Locke that maybe that the Swan hatch wasn't the test, but the Pearl hatch actually was, and advises Locke to push the button. There is very little time left. Lock says no and smashes the computer monitor.
**Final flashback**
Then Desmond has another flashback about him reading a hidden letter in his book from his ex-girlfriend who he loved. She told him that eventually he'll be important in some way and get a chance to save someone and be useful. He's about to kill himself when he hears a noise. He goes to the hatch top and sees Locke banging on it(from season 1). He suddenly has hope.
**Back to present**
Desmond opens the blast doors and Desmond says to Locke that he saved him in the past, now it's Desmond's time to save locke. He tells Locke to get the hell out of there. Charlie and Eko survive the dynamite blast and Eko is pressed out of it. He gets him back on his feet and then Eko goes in the room with Locke and they both kinda just stand around in confusion as to what's going on. Everything metal in the hatch is flying everywhere and getting sucked to the magnet source. Desmond goes in a hidden floor panel(hidden under one of the large tall equipment things) and turns the key in the ignition thing. An insanely big bright light shoots out.
The scene cuts to the others and Jack, Sawyer, Kate, Hurley, and Michael. The light is so big, they are on the entire other side of the island, and it's insanely bright from there it completely englufs the entire island in white light. Then it goes away eventually. The others(Zeke, who we find out's name is Tom and Mrs. Klugh who we find out's name is Dei I think) are all there. Kate also lets them know that they know they have disguises on. The speed boat pulls up and out comes Henry Gale who assumingly is actually the leader of the others. He tells Michael they keep promises and gives him the speed boat with Walt inside. Tells them to travel 325 degrees to find the way out, and when they do get out that they'll never be able to get back there even if they wanted.
They unmask Jack and crew, and they let Hurley go. Hurley is told by Mrs. Klugh to go back to the survivors and tell them never to come back here. They are keeping Jack, Kate and Sawyer though. Michael drives off with Walt in the speed boat.
Then back on the beach Charlie comes out of the hatch mess ok, but Eko and Locke and Desmond are nowhere to be seen. Charlie and Claire chat for a bit, and she kisses him.
Then the final scene has some people in some place out in the arctic. They are portugese and playing chess. Then something was flashing on a computer screen and it said something about detecting electro-magnetic. They type something in a nice computer and make a phone call. The girl they call turns out to be Desmond's ex-girlfriend and they tell her "We found it!" and it ends.
If that's confusing my fault because it's a lot to process. I'm tired, light-headed, so I hope I got everything. If not I'll update it tomorrow or just watch the episode on ABC.com.
Dude that was great, I can't thank you enough. Very easy to understand. I caught some of the stuff on the Lost boards but they're all over the place and most of their posters post stupid theories. Can't wait till I get a break so I can check this out for myself. Thanks again.
The finale was crazy. Like every episode has answers but always gives you questions in return. I'd be pissed if Locke and Echo are killed off b/c there are some of the most intersting on the show, so I'm betting they will still be alive. I doubt Abrams will build a show around Charlie or Bernard. I'd wish there was more answers but then they wouldn't have the hook to get me for the fall.
Quote**Desmond flashback**
After where I left you off, and he accidentally kills Kelvin, he takes the Dharma key off from around his neck and runs back to the hatch. The timer wnet all the way down and the hatch is shaking like crazy. Things are flying and getting knocked over, and the speakers keep saying "system failure" over and over again. Theres a bunch of crap on the computer, which prevents him from seeing what to type, but eventually he types in the code and hits execute and it stops the hatch from getting destroyed. So now you know the button does prevent something. The hatch has a powerful electro-magnetism that goes out of control. Kelvin wasn't lying.
Question. If you had gone through this experience, someone could come to you later amd convince you that it was all a fake and you shouldn't push the button? Huge flaw in the story. A) If I was the Desmond character I wouldn't fall for that. B) The Desmond character that is in all those flash backs wouldn't fall for that.
Quote**Back to present**
Desmond tells Locke that maybe that the Swan hatch wasn't the test, but the Pearl hatch actually was, and advises Locke to push the button. There is very little time left. Lock says no and smashes the computer monitor.
Uhh, left out the important part where Desmond searches through the computer printouts and discovers that the hatch system failure and the day the plane crashed (Sep. 22) are the same. Desmond realizes he caused the plane crash then tries to convince Locke its real then....
Quote from: MDS on May 24, 2006, 11:06:35 PM
Wow. Did the Russian dude at the end say "him" or "it"? as in the island, or desmond.
I believe he said "it."
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So Michael and Walt are gone....kinda
I doubt they're gone. Remember what Desmond said about his attempt to leave the island? He kept a fixed heading, and he ended up where he started. And Henry, knowing this would happen to Michael, told him to stick to a heading of 325.
I liked how Henry ended up being in charge. That was pretty cool.
Quote from: Bunkley78 on May 24, 2006, 11:10:55 PM
an EMP blast can't kill you, so they should all be alive in the hatch.
It's just a blast of magnetic pulse, which can't hurt you.
It's true that the pulse itself isn't necessarily damaging, but I'd have to think that whatever causes the pulse has to have some physical effect to those in close proximity.
Quote from: Susquehanna Birder on May 25, 2006, 08:08:35 AM
Quote from: MDS on May 24, 2006, 11:06:35 PM
Wow. Did the Russian dude at the end say "him" or "it"? as in the island, or desmond.
I believe he said "it."
Quote
So Michael and Walt are gone....kinda
I doubt they're gone. Remember what Desmond said about his attempt to leave the island? He kept a fixed heading, and he ended up where he started. And Henry, knowing this would happen to Michael, told him to stick to a heading of 325.
I liked how Henry ended up being in charge. That was pretty cool.
I'm sure it was "it" as in the boat. I'm sure the Desmond's girl set up Libby to give Desmond the boat, complete with a hidden GPS to keep tabs on him. But the magnetic fields would have rendered it useless...it seemed like the Russians had the signal once (when the system initially failed and the plane crashed), but lost it when the system was restored. Now they find it again after the latest system failure.
Quote from: Zanshin on May 25, 2006, 10:02:40 AM
I'm sure it was "it" as in the boat. I'm sure the Desmond's girl set up Libby to give Desmond the boat, complete with a hidden GPS to keep tabs on him. But the magnetic fields would have rendered it useless...it seemed like the Russians had the signal once (when the system initially failed and the plane crashed), but lost it when the system was restored. Now they find it again after the latest system failure.
Precisely.
Oh, yeah, SD, Eagles 3x was right. I left out an insanely important part which you probably know by now. That part where Desmond ran back to the hatch after he killed Kelvin, and the timer ran down, that was the same date as when the plane crashed.
The log Locke print out in the pearl showed the system failure and that's what crashed the plane. Can't believe I left that out.
It was NOT Jack at the end, as the Brazilian guy (bad twin thoery). Confirmed by Lost producer.
Apparantly, this it for Walt and Michael. But I just don't think they can leave us hanging on their characters. Maybe down the road, when they get rescued (if)...but this just cant be it.
Quote from: MDS on May 25, 2006, 09:40:58 PM
It was NOT Jack at the end, as the Brazilian guy (bad twin thoery). Confirmed by Lost producer.
Apparantly, this it for Walt and Michael. But I just don't think they can leave us hanging on their characters. Maybe down the road, when they get rescued (if)...but this just cant be it.
What? I have missed a few episodes so you will have to fill me in.
Compilation of the season 3 promos. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ncmL1ITR01U) New episode tonight.
This episode is a Jack flashback, and we only see 4 of the castaways (I assume the 3 captured by the others and Hurley making his treck back to camp). Apparantly, Ethan is in this episode in one form or another. Also, Henry Gale and Desmond are both official castmembers. And again, the show is on for 6 straight weeks...then off until mid-feb where it will have a non rerun run until the finale.
Quote from: MDS on May 25, 2006, 09:40:58 PM
It was NOT Jack at the end, as the Brazilian guy (bad twin theory). Confirmed by Lost producer.
Apparantly, this it for Walt and Michael. But I just don't think they can leave us hanging on their characters. Maybe down the road, when they get rescued (if)...but this just cant be it.
MDS, what did you mean by this? I have absolutely no idea what you are talking about.
Umm...thoery being shot around that everyone as an "evil" twin or something. Some people like Sawyer could be the evil twin, while good guys like Jack would have someone evil out there. I don't know, I didn't come up with it. But whatever it is, it was debunked.
Ahhhh the whole Rosseau (sp?) 4 degrees of separation BS?
Yeah stupid idea.
Pretty average episode IMO.
I'm giving Lost this season to answer multiple major questions. If not then I'll stop watching until the series is completely over then download all the seasons on torrents.
I thought it was a great episode, not as good a premier as last seasons but still a great show.
Whatever became of the whole EMP thing?
I hate this. Tell me everything. I'm confused. farg.
I watched it... but Lost seems lik a show where you really need to have it all on DVDs so you can watch a bunch of episodes at a time so you can at least try to follow what's going on. Waiting a week to follow up on this show is crazy.
Quote from: MDS on October 04, 2006, 10:42:21 PM
I hate this. Tell me everything. I'm confused. farg.
Warning...if you haven't seen the episode yet, here's a synopsis (http://community.tvguide.com/forum.jspa?forumID=700000055):
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Big Bad Ben
We finally discovered that Henry Gale's "real" name is Ben, or at least that's what the other Others call him. Tonight was time for him to get a little bit of payback by torturing Jack, Kate and Sawyer. I seriously got chills when he told Kate that he was trying to make her feel more comfortable because "the next two weeks are going to be very unpleasant." Ben is one very creepy dude no matter what he's called. I'm still fairly clueless as to the scientific purpose for capturing some of the crash survivors (how weird was it to see the Others' perspective of the crash?) and taking their blood and watching them in their cages, but I've just got a feeling that it can't be good.
I'm still marveling that the Others live in this pretty suburban-looking community and engage in normal activities like a book-club discussion — though what Ben would have had against Carrie is beyond me. Is he against telekinesis? Does he hate scary books? Perhaps he liked the movie version better? Or was it just because there is some sort of rift between him and Juliet? I definitely sensed some tension there, especially when Ben had no problem locking her out and potentially letting her drown.
Speaking of the Hydra station, I guess that must be where they keep the shark that we saw in the second season. But just to round things out, they've got dolphins, too. At first I thought the Dharma logo was an octopus or squid, but a Hydra makes more sense. The mythical Greek creature kept regenerating its heads. That's kind of how the Others seem: Ethan and some of his colleagues may have died at the hands of the castaways, but it seems like the Others have only come back stronger.
Jack "the repo man" was held captive under the bunker by Juliet and her grilled cheese sandwich, but that caused him some serious flashbacks. I was actually praying that Jack's dad didn't sleep with Sarah. I'm not sure I could have dealt with that. I figured for sure that whether his dad was involved was going to be the question that Jack posed to Juliet when he discovered that they had his entire life story in one convenient folder. But even though Sarah didn't sleep with Jack's dad, she did cut him to the quick with her reasoning for her new beau, "It doesn't matter who he is, it just matters who you're not." Ouch. That's gotta hurt.
Now if the Others live in this isolated little community in the mountains, how do they have access to all this personal information about the castaways? Is someone on the outside e-mailing or faxing them the dirt on the passengers whose names were on the manifest?
I find it entirely fascinating that the Others seem to be keen on gathering information from Jack, Kate and Sawyer in different ways: Trying to make Kate cozy by giving her a pretty new dress and letting her shower; having the persistent but soft-spoken Juliet wear Jack down and break his spirit; and dealing with Sawyer like he's a caged animal.
Sawyer befriended fellow captive Karl, who hatched a failed escape plan. But is Karl working with the Others or is he an outcast from the group? I thought some of the most entertaining parts of the episode were watching Sawyer struggle with the food reward system. ("What? You talkin' to me now, Chachi?") Interesting that the Others claimed it only took the bears two hours to solve the food problem. Would these be the polar bears? That would explain why they were roaming loose in the jungle and why the big cages were empty. Polar bears do like fish, which was the treat that Sawyer earned himself, so it would make sense. Sweet that he shared his hard-earned reward with Kate. I'm wondering, though, if Kate had said "Jack and Sawyer" instead of "Sawyer and Jack," would they have dumped her in the room opposite Jack and watched their actions instead? It seems like the Others are definitely testing some aspects of human relationships, but as to what end, I'm clueless.
Is the formerly fake-bearded guy really gay? I thought his comment that Kate wasn't his type was a pretty good signal. That's probably the clearest thing in the entire episode. I'm still baffled by what the heck is going on with this show... if the Others are stranded, too, or if they are willing participants and conductors in these experiments. Guess we'll just have to wait and see what unfolds this season. Oh, and because I forgot to mention it before, I'm really excited this show is back. Leave it to Lost to air a season premiere that throws you for a mind-boggling loop.
It's moving to 10:00 when it comes back in Feb. ABC senses the smaller than it was before but still really good ratings, and will move it out of the way of Idol.
Ha, the old man in me is not happy.
Honestly. You cannot stay up to 11:00, but you can get up at 7:30 to begin heavily drinking for a football game? Makes sense.
Quote from: MDS on December 05, 2006, 11:24:26 PM
Honestly. You cannot stay up to 11:00, but you can get up at 7:30 to begin heavily drinking for a football game? Makes sense.
Clearly you're confused about my priorities.
Well, yea. They don't make any sense. And it's currently 12:06 and you're posting on an internet message board. Quit bitching.
Quote from: MDS on December 06, 2006, 12:06:26 AM
Well, yea. They don't make any sense.
I'll explain using small words.
Getting up early to booze your face off for a football game >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Staying up late to watch TV. Even Lost.
This is why they invented VCRs and DVRs. Now be happy.
Quote from: TexasEagle on December 06, 2006, 01:53:21 PM
This is why they invented VCRs and DVRs. Now be happy.
They also have all the episodes online they next day.
http://apnews.myway.com//article/20061221/D8M50J900.html
i tell you this cast is cursed. someone needs to return the Bobby Brady idol back to Professor Whiteheads cave.
First the guy who plays Sawyer is held up at his home, then the guy that plays Michael gets chased down by a bunch of punks tailing him through a neighborhood, Michelle Rodriguez and the blonde chick who got wasted with her get busted for DUIs. Now this. Yikes.
As Jimmy sang, "just another zesty day in paradise."
For all the stuff that is going on there, they could have filmed in South Central.
Somebody must have taken home some lava :paranoid
Evangeline Lilly and 'Charlie' are an item.
http://star-dirt.com/?p=26
Is it me, or isn't Evangeline that hot off camera? Plus, she's got that Extreme Morton Toe thing going on, which disgusts me.
They've been an item for awhile. Good lookin' out.
Quote from: Father Demon on January 12, 2007, 02:16:39 AMIs it me, or isn't Evangeline that hot off camera?
It's not just you. I put her on the "overrated" thread a while back.
She's cute. But she really strikes me as a headcase, which diminishes that effect greatly.
Six packs on girls frighten me.
She's still hot.
she's girl next door hot....not supermodel hot.
i'd bang her if she'd let me....but she wouldn't.
She'd let me. I've got smooth moves.
She looks like she'd enjoy a good ear-farg.
Did anyone watch last night? I could not get into it all. Showing another one of those hour long series recaps before the new episode really pissed me off.
I still can't get past the one girl being Malcolm's (as in 'In The Middle') obnoxious girlfriend.
One of the best episodes of the season so far (IMO)
Unseen promo for next week: Juliet in Cuffs (http://spoilerslost.blogspot.com/2007/02/stranger-in-strange-land-cdn-promo.html)
Some good screenshots (http://losteastereggs.blogspot.com/)
Interesting theory:
QuoteMy theory is that the Others are trying to manipulate time and fate and that they are soldiers in an epic war against the agents of fate, a la the lady in the ring shop. I believe now that the Others were on their way to developing a method of defeating fate's agents but that fate put all of these people on flight 815 and are now using them as their soldiers. For some reason, the magnetic shield kept the agents of fate from changing form (Their original form is the "security system") and allowed people to deviate from what Fate had assigned them. For example, Locke can walk, and Sun is preggers. The island seems to be a sanctuary from fate (at least once on the island), or at least it was when the buttons were being pushed.
Fate sent Desmond to the Island because it was Desmond's destiny to be the one to not push the button (Which keeps fate and its agents off the island) and to allow everyone on that flight onto the island. Fate is now doing its best to counter the Others' attempt at manipulating time and, for all intents and purposes, fate. The Others are seeking children on the island because on the island they can keep the babies away from fate's agents and train them (as we saw last week) to be manipulators of time.
These are jumbled thoughts, I know, but I think you get the general idea. If I wasn't tired and sick, I'd write out my own theory and try to make it clearer.
Crazy episode, but the lowest ratings ever. Perhaps the idiots who cannot pay attetion unless things are getting blown up and everything is getting solved in a nice little box by the end of the hour is jumping ship. America is stupid, it's of billy beane's and king cole's.
america is stupid only because it took them so long to ask themselves why am i watching this garbage
Quote from: ice grillin you on February 15, 2007, 01:16:00 PM
america is stupid only because it took them so long to ask themselves why am i watching this garbage
Lost>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>King of Queens
NO
which is why koq was on for nine years and lost will be lucky to make its fourth year
King of Queens was easily one of the worst shows I've ever seen. If Leah Remini ever opens her mouth again she should be thrown into the nearest meatgrinder.
The only long-running sitcoms I can think of that were worse are Everybody Loves Raymond, Two and a Half Men and that god awful Jim Belushi show.
Quote from: ice grillin you on February 15, 2007, 01:22:33 PM
NO
which is why koq was on for nine years and lost will be lucky to make its fourth year
Lost isn't expected to be on that long, the writers gave it a 5 year life span, which it will easily make. Also, Lost is 1 hour long with a complex storyline, King of Queens is a half hour comedy. Big difference.
yeah, you can't even begin to compare a 1 hour drama to a half hour sitcom, sitcoms have no continuity from week to week, season to season.
then why did he?
you did, not him
Who knows why they were compared. King of Queens is awful with no story, while Lost is interesting and has a very intricate and in-depth story. Clearly very different beasts.
The fact that you don't like comedy, but liked King Of Queens is just farging confusing.
cant imagine why i would like a comedy about a fat guy who spends every waking minute of his life eating watching sports and drinking beer
lemme think about it and get back to you
And isn't funny. Don't forget that part.
Quote from: ice grillin you on February 15, 2007, 01:37:44 PM
cant imagine why i would like a comedy about a fat guy who spends every waking minute of his life eating watching sports and drinking beer
That character (only slightly modified) has been done a million times.
basically its like watching my own life
and who does daddy love more than daddy
the answer?
no one
and again its nick bakay humor....most people hate it...i happen to love it
That character (only slightly modified) has been done a million times.
but never better
in one episode carrie asks doug if anyone has ever told him that he looks like someone...and he responds oh you mean like every fat guy in every movie ever
Nothing about your taste in anything makes any sense to me.
I wasn't knocking you for liking it, just saying if America was stupid (as you said) for liking Lost than they're equally as stupid for liking King of Queens. At least Lost is original.
Quote from: SD_Eagle on February 15, 2007, 01:53:58 PM
I wasn't knocking you for liking it, just saying if America was stupid (as you said) for liking Lost than they're equally as stupid for liking King of Queens. At least Lost is original.
(http://www.bobdenver.com/Rescued_and_the_Rest_/Surviving_Gilligan_s_Island/SGIcast.jpg)
america didnt like koq...it always got pretty poor ratings and i dont believe ever won a major emmy...only its pure greatness kept it on the air for so long
if it got poor ratings, it wouldn't still be on, and it wouldn't be syndicated
At least Lost is original
beat me to it wing
gilligan
land of the lost
lost in space
blah blah blah
with a little twin peaks mixed in
their aint nothing original about lost
whats most funny is watching all the sheep continue to get strung along waiting for some big shockers when in reality their is none...the show will slowly dirft into oblivion without ever really revealing anything special and the few still watching it will ask them selves what the hell was i doing for the past four years...just as now there is a mass exodus of people saying what the hell am i doing watching this show
Nine years of King of Queens is proof positive that television sucks ballscrote.
youre all morons. all of you. especially igy.
Quote from: rjs246 on February 15, 2007, 02:18:29 PM
Nine years of King of Queens is proof positive that television sucks ballscrote.
I would say that the Americans taste in television "sucks ballscorte." Rather, there have been tons of quality shows that haven't lasted simply because the population is dumb.
You'll get no arguments from me about the US population being dumb. Carry on.
There's really nothing else, Ricky. The US is full of morons. Thusly, good shows never last and crappy shows become hits. See Criminal Minds, CSI: Miami, American Idol, Dancing with the Stars, Two and a Half Men. Basically anything on CBS.
When The Whistle Blows
In all fairness, there haven't been many good network TV shows over the past ten years. Simpsons (not nearly as good as it once was), Arrested Development (moved around, canceled), Family Guy (moved around, canceled, brought back, not nearly as good as it once was) are the only ones that come to mind.
HBO and FX seemed to single-handedly turn the TV landscape around and some of the other networks have improved drastically over the past year or two. I am not horribly offended by the idiocy of EVERYTHING on TV now. There was a time when every network from 8-11 had nothing but 'According to Jim' clones and reality television shows, but now things seem to be getting better.
TV is still the redheaded stepchild of the big screen, but at least it isn't as awful as it used to be.
Basically, Lost should have followed what a show like 24 does. You can have a seriel drama, but to expect a seriel drama to go on for 5 years with the same momentum was poorly thought out.
Lost should have compartmentalized it's seasons, having each season independent of the others. As of right now, if you have never seen Lost before, it would make no sense to jump in now and know what is going on. 24 on the other hand, you can watch any season from the start, and not be lost in what everything is about. Yes, 24 throws back to previous years, but they don't have a throw back as an intruption of the plot. You can watch season 5 of 24 without ever had seen season 4. And it still makes sense.
Lost can not pick up any new viewer because of this, you need to have had seen 2+ seasons of the show for almost anything to make sense of what is going on.
Quote from: ice grillin you on February 15, 2007, 02:10:44 PM
At least Lost is original
beat me to it wing
gilligan
land of the lost
lost in space
blah blah blah
with a little twin peaks mixed in
their aint nothing original about lost
whats most funny is watching all the sheep continue to get strung along waiting for some big shockers when in reality their is none...the show will slowly dirft into oblivion without ever really revealing anything special and the few still watching it will ask them selves what the hell was i doing for the past four years...just as now there is a mass exodus of people saying what the hell am i doing watching this show
Never saw Twin Peaks but the concept of Lost is nothing like the other shows you mentioned.
Quote from: Wingspan on February 15, 2007, 03:04:11 PM
Lost can not pick up any new viewer because of this, you need to have had seen 2+ seasons of the show for almost anything to make sense of what is going on.
I missed the entire 1st season of Lost but was intrigued enough with the season 2 premier to get it on DVD and get caught up. Same applies to 24, never was a fan until season 5's opener. I wound up buying seasons 1-4 to get caught up.
Quote from: SD_Eagle on February 15, 2007, 03:20:31 PM
Quote from: Wingspan on February 15, 2007, 03:04:11 PM
Lost can not pick up any new viewer because of this, you need to have had seen 2+ seasons of the show for almost anything to make sense of what is going on.
I missed the entire 1st season of Lost but was intrigued enough with the season 2 premier to get it on DVD and get caught up. Same applies to 24, never was a fan until season 5's opener. I wound up buying seasons 1-4 to get caught up.
Not many people are going to spend $200+ to get caught up with a television show.
The ratings speak for themselves. Lost has gradually lost views every season. While 24 has progressivly gained viewers every season.
I got Lost seasons 1 and 2 for free, 24 seasons 1-4 was on sale through Amazon for $120. (Just sayin)
Whats killing Lost is their new time slot, that was a dumb move.
i would think that the increased usage of DVRs would affect all TV ratings. i can't think of one show that i actually watch in it's timeslot
The fact that is almost impossible to join in with Lost without getting the dvd's to past season (which is not too common for a person to do) plays a giant role in the declining interest in a show. Generally, shows hit their high point and its all downhill from that point. For Lost, the high point was the start to season 2. But all the repeats and no advancement in story caused people to jump ship, as well as it being against the impossibly stupid American Idol.
Lost wasn't moved more so because of Idol. ABC feared an increased audience for the horrificly bad Criminal Minds with their post-Super Bowl shot. Greys Anatomy shot off last year with that, and they thought the same thing would happen here. So, to protect Lost, they moved it to 10. Minds ended up not gaining audience and the entire thing was a horrible move by CBS (us tv dorks called that one).
However, the fact that Lost is one extreamly complicated story spread over x seasons is what makes it so good to the fans of the show. But, ABC's schedule is a joke, outside of Sunday and Thursday. Lost has failed as a 9pm show because nothing can succeed after it. So it's now either gonna be an 8pm show or 10pm show. Chances are next year it gets held off until January while ABC tries to establish some kind of programming on wednesdays (or another day, if it gets moved).
On a side note, Lost does have pretty high tivo/dvr numbers. It's the #1 show on itunes, and a high selling tv dvd show...despite being more expensive than a comedy show to buy. So it's not all bad for Lost, but around 4 million viewers (more of them older) have deserted the show in the past year. It's surprising to me, I still enjoy it and am captivated by it, but again, I have better taste than everyone else.
Did you write that yourself?
Yes?
You guys care WAY too much about TV shows.
^^^^
yes
im sure i care about some pretty awful things....but im also sure they are all infintely better than tv
Why "LOST" is lost (http://krhunt.blogspot.com/2007/02/why-lost-is-lost.html)
http://the.honoluluadvertiser.com/article/2007/Oct/25/br/br5701984326.html
this cast loves to party!
I suppose it would be wise of the producers to provide full-time drivers for these morons.
havased?
QuoteHis character was killed off by a smoke monster in the first half of that season.
that just makes me laugh. "So Mr. Director how do I die in this episode? Gunned down? Skull crushed after brutal beating? Pushed off a cliff? Go down in a blaze of Glory" "Ah, no, not exactly. You see, ah, Ecko is killed by a
smoke monster."
Quote from: Don Ho on October 29, 2007, 03:18:24 AM
QuoteHis character was killed off by a smoke monster in the first half of that season.
that just makes me laugh. "So Mr. Director how do I die in this episode? Gunned down? Skull crushed after brutal beating? Pushed off a cliff? Go down in a blaze of Glory" "Ah, no, not exactly. You see, ah, Ecko is killed by a smoke monster."
Complete low-point of the series. I loved Ecko's character and thought that was such a bitch way for him to go out.
So....Charlie was killed off, I wasn't sure that he really was (I must have missed that in this thread).
Coming attractions look insane for this season. :yay
Quote from: PhillyGirl on December 25, 2007, 10:54:19 PM
So....Charlie was killed off, I wasn't sure that he really was (I must have missed that in this thread).
Coming attractions look insane for this season. :yay
He was killed in the season 3 finale. Good riddance.
i saw the show but i didn't know he was actually dead.
I don't know why people got excited or upset about his character. He was pretty much a non-entity as far as I was concerned. His 'death' barely registers.
LOST barely registers anymore, I got tired of it last season, i'm done.
I love the show we are re-watching season 3 now! Can't wait for the 31st.
So it begins (http://spoilerslost.blogspot.com/2008/01/lost-mobisode-13-so-it-begins.html)
What I'm assuming is the first few minutes of Thursdays episode
I'm excited for a tv show. Please kill me.
Haha loser.
I don't ejaculate all over my keyboard letting everyone know that I watched an episode on my computer so don't try to make yourself feel better by attempting to mock me. I understand it's the only thing you could do at this point to retain any self respect, but please. It's pathetic.
I refuse to believe that you have never ejac'd all over your keyboard.
Oh, I have. In fact, I just wadded one out a few minutes ago.
I've just never done it over a TV show.
Sometimes I do it to your posts, is that better?
what's with the show coming on after it, Eli Stone...is it as bad as it looks?
The show isn't bad. It's another lawyer show where the guy cares more about doing the right thing than making money and whatnot, but it at least presents the tired, worn out plot in an unique way: visions of George Michael singing.
tentative 5 more episodes (http://www.aintitcool.com/node/35574)
QuoteCuse Says LOST's 4th Season Will Be 13 Episodes At Most!!
I am – Hercules!!
"Lost" showrunner Carlton Cuse says the fourth season of his acclaimed sci-fi drama will be no more than 13 episodes this season, cut down from an order of 16 due to the writers' strike expected to end today.
Eight episodes were scripted before the strike. Cuse hopes to produce five more to air this spring.
It sounds like Cuse and the rest of the "Lost" writing staff will end the fourth season at the same story point they always intended, cramming eight episodes of plot into the season's final five installments.
"We will have to condense some stories," Cuse tells The Hollywood Reporter.
The third episode of the fourth season airs this Thursday. Sources say all 13 fourth-season episodes could conceivably run between now and the end of the season without a break.
Read all of the Hollywood Reporter's story on the matter here.
one of the best shows ever, but there comes a time when you have to know when to cut the story. What could they of had 16 more episodes of? This is not the ongoing mob-life saga like the Sopranos. They made contact--saved--end of story.
Now they are stretching flashbacks into other peoples lives that the audience really cant adapt to. Sometimes it nice to go out on top, they might be in jeopardy of that the more they prolong this.
Are you serious? I want to know what the farg is going on? They haven't answered shtein. The story was never about them being rescued, it's about solving the mystery of the island and what brought all of these people together.
good point...but I feel like they are starting to stretch it with all these other characters. You have to admit though that the characters and the audience overall goal was to see them get off the island, and we first saw that when Jack met Freckles and spoke to her. Maybe if they would of still never made contact with the outside world it makes it more intense and keeps you still guessing
Now we are seeing the back and forth, back and forth..I dont know SD...I kind of feel like they are going too much in circles
I still friggin love it though..dont get me wrong....just maybe a little too unnecessary detail going into each weeks airing
Well, there will be 3 more seasons (including this one) so they couldn't end the story at getting rescued. So they introduce a whole new story line: why would they want to go back, and will they?
Last nights episode clearly made the show insanely crooked. Im sure I wasnt the only one that said, "what the farg?"
then again, thats usually how the show ends anyway each week. Good stuff
I liked the "payload" apparently coming through a wormhole. That's quite a new twist.
I liked that angle as well, followed by shifty-boy telling the heli pilot to follow the exact coordinates as last time, no matter what.
I think the last few episodes is really leading in well for the Vile Vortices theories that are popular now.
Quote"Vile Vortices" is a fancy term to describe the supposed gaps to other dimensions that are present in the world, such as the Bermuda Triangle and the Devil's Sea. There are thought to be 12 Vile Vortices scattered around the globe. Five are near the Tropic of Cancer, five are near the Tropic of Capricorn, and there's one at each Pole.
Quote
The island on Lost would likely be located near the Fiji Vortex in the Pacific Ocean, albeit in another dimension, and the theory is that it may be a dumping ground for all of the other Vortices. Something gets sucked into the vortex in the Mozambique Channel, such as The Black Rock, and it ends up getting dropped right on to the island. Because we know that The Black Rock probably set off from the eastern coast of Africa, this is not out of the realm of possibility. Vortex travel could also explain how a small airplane originating in Nigeria ended up thousands of miles off course. There just happens to be a vortex near the Sahara, which is where the Nigerian plane was likely headed.
Does this theory sound plausible? Could the island actually be a dumping ground for other vessels, people, and objects that have been sucked through Vortices around the globe? I don't see any reason why not. Of course, if the Vile Vortices theory is correct, you'd think there'd be a lot more vehicles and people scattered around the island. However, it could be that the dumping area is much larger than the island itself, so maybe all the other long lost ships and airplanes are elsewhere.
If this theory is correct, then I think that Juliet's friend Amelia could easily be Amelia Earhart, as has long been speculated. This could also explain how a polar bear would end up in the desert of Tunisia. When you have a dozen Vortices scattered around the globe, this theory could be used to explain many of Lost's mysteries.
Of course, the big question is how do people manage to travel safely through these Vortices? We already know that somebody drops food on the island, and we can assume for now that Michael and Walt escaped without harm. Somebody obviously knows how to navigate through some of these Vortices without having their planes crashed and boats destroyed. How do they do it?
That last question seems to be answered a bit last night, with the "follow the exact coordinates" quote.
BTW - when Sayid was killing people, I told my wife "I bet he works for Ben"
What I don't know now is if Ben positioned himself to be one of the Oceanic 6, or if he snuck off the island along with them. So far, we know for sure Jack, Kate, Hugo, and Sayid. Also, I have a feeling that most of the ones that didn't get off were killed, leaving some, but not all, on the island.
Ben can't be one of the Oceanic 6 because he wasn't on Oceanic flight 815. I think the remaining two are either Aaron and Claire or Sun and Jin.
I know that part about him not being on it, but my thinking was that since someone is obviously doing a cover-up (with the fake video footage and such), that Ben could have gotten back home by arranging it so it appeared he was a survivor.
The flash-forward from last season's finale hinted that Sawyer was back, when Kate said something about "he'll be wondering where I am". but last night, he made a pretty good case for not going home.
Also, I now think that Ben might have been in the coffin in the finale, since we see him in the US and obviously wouldn't have any friends there (having grown up on the island, and the 5 or 6 survivors certainly wouldn't befriend him). Can't figure out the timing of all the flash-forwards...
Good point. It makes sense that he is the corpse in question.
The obit was not for a "Ben Linus," but he had all those fake passports so it could have been under one of his alias'.
This week's episode is friggin' cool.
What a great episode. Best show ever.
Watching the tease for next week...things will really be picking up!
They basically answered 3 seasons worth of Desmond with this one episode. The explaination was unreal. I think the red head chick gets it next week.
the show hit an all time high with that episode. I take back whatever I said about it not being good by going back and forth with the new characters....now I'm glad they did. Good call SD
creative mother humpers those guys
Here's a good explaination of where the show is heading:
QuoteWe learn Jack's fate: The finale introduced the flash forward and showed us Jack's (Matthew Fox) slide into alcoholism when he leaves the island. "The flash forward is part of an overall plan for the show," says Damon Lindelof, co-executive producer. "Season 4 is about who gets off the island and the fact that they need to get back. Season 5 is about why they need to get back, and season 6 is about what happens when they get back."
http://www.nypost.com/seven/02242008/tv/10_reasons_why_lost_is_found_98856.htm?page=0
yea great episode. everything conveniently worked out, but a great story and some solid answers help.
the show was supposed to stop after 7 episodes, then air 6 more to wrap up the season beginning april 17. but they will air 8 instead, then 5 beginning april 24.
so essentially:
mar. 5- 9pm
12- 9 pm
17- last one before break, 9pm
apr. 24- returns, 10pm
may 1- 10pm
8- 10pm
15- 10pm
22- finale, 10pm
Quote from: SD_Eagle on February 28, 2008, 10:20:21 PM
They basically answered 3 seasons worth of Desmond with this one episode. The explaination was unreal. I think the red head chick gets it next week.
I'll give it to her today...multiple times.
Hahaha...I was thinking that, too.
OK, I'm kind of confused.
I have ONLY watched up until the Desmond episode (DVRed all of the episodes and got up to there today).
First...Did Kate call her son "ERIC" or "AARON"? I just had a total 20 minute conversation with a girlfriend of mine who insisted that she said Aaron. I replayed it like 5 times and each time I swear she said Eric.
Second...Why the hell did Jack say only 8 survived when he was testifying for Kate? And why was he all clean shaven and working at the hospital in that flash forward when the one at the end of last season showed him a drunken, bearded mess?
And seriously...Ben fixing up Sayid farged me up.
she said aaron. he is one of the oceanic six.
we dont know why jack said that only 8 survived. that is to be explained. the flashforwards have been in and out of time order. a basic time stamp is hurley's flashforward happened a little after they got off the island and the "we have to go back" scene happened after that.
Aaron is Claire's child. Apparently Kate brought him back as part of the "rescue." There is sure to be some more back story on how/why that happened.
Jack's testimony supports the idea that the survivors are sworn to keep the actual events secret, perhaps out of respect for the safety the remaining people on the island.
ok, I know Aaron is Claire's baby, but I didn't think she actually said AARON. I watched it 5-6 times and it sounded like eric to me each time.
Just watched the next 2 episodes...I have one more to watch to be up to date.
I just watched the one with Walt showing up on the boat. WTF?
And the fact that Jin is believed dead by Sun...but is alive and remarried 2 months already? Does he believe her to be dead? W. T. F?
Quote from: PhillyGirl on March 30, 2008, 03:05:56 PM
ok, I know Aaron is Claire's baby, but I didn't think she actually said AARON. I watched it 5-6 times and it sounded like eric to me each time.
Just watched the next 2 episodes...I have one more to watch to be up to date.
I just watched the one with Walt showing up on the boat. WTF?
And the fact that Jin is believed dead by Sun...but is alive and remarried 2 months already? Does he believe her to be dead? W. T. F?
It was Michael on the boat.
And I think you misunderstood the Jin/Sun episode. The Jin scenes were flashback to before Flight 815. The Sun scenes were flashforward, post rescue..
Yep...the thing where Jin was rushing to the hospital, with the panda...that wasn't Sun having the baby. The writers wanted us to believe that...but it was a red herring.
Why don't you all just say what you're thinking. By the end of the episode it wasn't really all that confusing what was going on with Sun/Jin. In fact, it was really obvious. Anyone who was confused should be laughed at.
I just assumed she watched it while simultaneously writing a dissertation on particle physics and juggling scalpels.
Quote from: Zanshin on March 30, 2008, 07:12:29 PM
I just assumed she watched it while simultaneously writing a dissertation on particle physics and juggling scalpels.
or running after a toddler. LOL
Which is harder.
Or watching child(ren).
or smoking crack
PS...I meant Michael...typed Walt for some reason.
Crack smoker.
oh for farg's sake.
Was the episode I watched the last one before the break? Was there another episode after the one where Kate's son was revealed?
Quote from: PhillyGirl on April 04, 2008, 08:31:51 AM
oh for farg's sake.
Was the episode I watched the last one before the break? Was there another episode after the one where Kate's son was revealed?
Like 2 or 3 if iirc
It can only be one more, the DVR only has one "new" episode left before the break. Its from like 3/21 or something. But since last night was a repeat, I thought maybe it was one of those kinds of episodes too.
Nope, there were 4 more episodes after the Kate one:
"The Beginning of the End" Jack Bender Damon Lindelof & Carlton Cuse Hurley January 31, 2008
71 2 "Confirmed Dead" Stephen Williams Drew Goddard & Brian K. Vaughan Daniel, Miles, Charlotte, Frank & Naomi February 7, 2008
72 3 "The Economist" Jack Bender Edward Kitsis & Adam Horowitz Sayid February 14, 2008
73 4 "Eggtown" Stephen Williams Elizabeth Sarnoff & Greggory Nations Kate February 21, 2008
74 5 "The Constant" Jack Bender Carlton Cuse & Damon Lindelof Desmond February 28, 2008
75 6 "The Other Woman" Eric Laneuville Drew Goddard & Christina M. Kim Juliet March 6, 2008
76 7 "Ji Yeon" Stephen Semel Edward Kitsis & Adam Horowitz Sun & Jin March 13, 2008
77 8 "Meet Kevin Johnson"
'The Constant' was probably one of the top 5 LOST episodes ever
oh duh....the Kate episode was way before the last one I saw. The sun/jin baby one was the last one I saw.
I need sleep LOL
So meet Kevin Johnson (aka Michael) is the last one and that's the one I have saved.
I think I'll hold onto that for another week or so ;)
another update to the schedule:
april 24- 10pm
may 1- 10pm
may 8- 10pm
may 15- 10pm (finale part 1)
may 22- no (greys anatomy 2 hour finale)
may 29- 9pm (finale part 2, 2 hour episode)
they should put the 2 hour finale on may 21 so theres not a silly 2 week layoff.
minor Spoilers for the Rest of Season 4:
1) We will learn how the O6 leave the island
2) What happens to those who stay behind
3) Why Sayid is working for Ben
4) Who is in the coffin
5) New "Game Changer" at end of this Season
6) Episode 9 is a Ben Flash Forward
7) Smokey will appear and we will learn a "new dimension" of it
8) A "major" and "mysterious" story line for Claire will begin, that setup the next few episodes and "years"!!
9) Episode 10 is a Jack flash forward
10) Only one flashback - Previous spoilers here reveal a potential Locke FB in episode 11
11) We will see ALL 3 levels of the Orchid and learn about the time traveling (warping) abilities
12) Penny, Richard and Abaddon all appear
13) Daniel Faraday and Miles will have to wait until next season for more of their story
14) Hurley will encounter Smokey
15) Finale Kiss will "complicate" the triangle
16) Sawyer will be involved in "frantic" gun battle
reminder all new episode tonight
bout time...I was beginning to think they weren't lost anymore
F-----------------------------------lotsmoreminuses
what a great episode. Tied for best this season with the Constant
Completely disagree. Too much going on. Too many supernatural allusions. I was pretty meh on the whole thing.
Edit: PLUS they killed the hottest girl on the show. The things I would do to her.
Rusty I don't know what you're smoking. That episode was great. They are on a roll this season.
Quote from: MDS on April 25, 2008, 03:00:27 AM
Rusty I don't know what you're smoking. That episode was great. They are on a roll this season.
not only that but alex isn't the hottest girl on the show
Well let's see. Ben apparently can teleport to the middle of the Iraqi desert. Possibly time travel. He can control the smoke monster. He can't kill Penny's father, but he can convince Sayid to be an assassin for him... I'll probably change my mind, because I'm already finding myself intrigued by all of the nonsense, but I just thought last night's episode was over the top.
And that girl is smokin hot.
She is hot but maybe 3rd in the pecking order behind Kate and the red head slut from the boat. I'd put her just ahead of Claire and Julie. Everyone has different taste.
we've known since season 1 the island has supernatural powers so I don't know why you were so surprised. They said in an earlier season the smoke monster was the islands security device. I don't think Ben has control of it I just think he can release it when he wants. You had to know there was time travel of some sort because of the Constant episode with Desmond.
Sure sure. And all of that is part of what I love about the show, but they usually deliver it in small doses to keep it grounded. If they go flying off on supernatural tangents it'll start to lose its appeal. Whatever. I enjoyed the episode, I just didn't think it was all that. Whatever. Yay TV!
A farg that red-headed slut. She's gross. Julia, Alex and Kate in a dead heat with Alex getting the nod for ridiculous eyes and being a teenager. My tastes rule.
What about Sawyer? He's soooo dreamy.
:o
That was pretty fun.
Pointless aside, and I'm sure I'm not the first one to have the thought...BUT with all of this focus on the space time thing, it really wouldn't surprise me (as part of the series resolution) if Jack and Kate end up becoming the Adam and Eve skeletons found in the first (I think) season. Had the thought as opened the thread, so I thought I'd throw it out there.
damn--Ben junior getting shot was unexpected and a little confusing at the same time
overall pretty good episode
I watched my very first episode of Lost a couple weeks ago. I suppose I would like it a lot more if I had started watching it in the very beginning. Needless to say, I was confused for roughly the first 45 minutes. But then I missed the last 15 minutes because I was celebrating having figured the first 45.
Quote from: reese125 on March 25, 2009, 10:08:00 PM
damn--Ben junior getting shot was unexpected and a little confusing at the same time
overall pretty good episode
Someone of significance dies this season but I'm fairly certain Ben lives.
which ben?
didnt faraday say whats done is done and you cant change things? what the farg this show is nuts.
Ben got shot but that doesn't make him dead. I didn't even see a bullet hole or blood.
yeah youre right...Im guessing he lives into the next episode. if little Ben does not theres some farged up things going on I cant follow here
My favorite episode in a while
Locke is a bad ass
wow, so....yeah....smoke monster explained
Last night was good. The first hour was a little odd but I liked the second a lot. Sets up the rest of the series well.
I was getting into watching all the timelines. Pretty cool, and way different from typical time-based fiction. It will be interesting to see how they tie it all up (or if they do).
Quote from: PhillyGirl on February 03, 2010, 09:10:01 AM
wow, so....yeah....smoke monster explained
I missed that part last night. So wtf is that thing?
The series recap before was awesome. I forgot how many episodes I missed.
lol...it's not exactly a "catch it when I can" sort of show.
Sonofabitch! Made the mistake of walking away from the set for about 10 minutes. Came back and was all 'WTF did I miss now?" Forgot to record it so I hope they show it again next week which seems to be the trend for this show.
Bumping this in honor of tonight's finale.
Some of the posts in this thread are hilarious especially in the beginning.
Can't wait. Regardless of whether or not the last few episodes have been disappointing, this should be an amazing 2 and a half hours.
Holy shtein.
so pretty much everyone was dead all along. I knew that 5 years ago
They crashed lived their lives etc, they weren't dead. Why would Christian say that some died before him, some much after, if they were all dead? The alt was purgatory/limbo that they had to be in before moving on to 'heaven'.
What.The.farg. farg Abrams. Too bad that the series finale was easily the worst episode of Lost ever. Ever.
Can someone explain exactly why this steaming shteinpile needed to be an extra half-hour longer?
Christ. I may be done with serialized TV for good after that.
lol @ easy
why you are watching this now? no way you understood it.
loved the closing shot, understood what they were trying to do. there really was no other way to wrap it up then go this route.
I don't know what to think, I'm still trying to digest it all.
Edit: Initially I'm pissed off the story was all about Jack. I mean, what?!?!
yea, that too
a lot of people were crying. i did not do this. not trying to act like a man, but i wasnt even close to tearing up.
i will easily rank this above the sopranos ending (sucks/insulting) but below the shield (flawless and perfect, i dont need to see anything else)
i still want more from this show. but i guess thats the point
It's been a great ride regardless, but I always thought the show was above 1 character. It was all about Jack?!?! I'm baffled by that.
yea that was a little iffy
but i love how the show started on his eye and ended on it, too
in a way it was either this or you treat it like some corny action movie where someone (jack) sacrifices himself to get everyone else home and then they live happily ever after the end
that ending would appease one timers like easy (seriously easy this is a bad news brotha) but would be cheap. glad they didnt take that.
Meanwhile I'm not sure what to make of Breaking Bad's episode. I don't know if I'd call it a pointless episode or an episode that actually developed the characters.
The fly thing was funny at first, but got old after a while.
Quote from: KDS on May 24, 2010, 02:29:34 AM
yea that was a little iffy
but i love how the show started on his eye and ended on it, too
in a way it was either this or you treat it like some corny action movie where someone (jack) sacrifices himself to get everyone else home and then they live happily ever after the end
that ending would appease one timers like easy (seriously easy this is a bad news brotha) but would be cheap. glad they didnt take that.
After sobering up and sleeping a few hours, my guess is: The alt timeline was Jack's purgatory.The church they were all at in the end was the meeting point for Jack to ascend to Heaven/Nirvana/72 virgins/etc. Those people were so important in his life that he needed them to move on. They were all dead at that point too, but I'm assuming appeared in the form that they were important to Jack during his life. Ben wasn't ready yet, which is why he stayed outside and said "I have things to work on". Hurley ran the island after Jack died with Ben assuming the role as Richard. The hard question to answer is when did Jack actually die. Was it when he died in the bamboo forest at the end, or the plane crash, or when the Jughead went off on the island, or all 3. I'm confused.
The questions aside, the final episode was as the actors called it 'Beautiful'. And I don't mean that in some corny sappy way, just how they chose to end it. There is some method behind this madness, and I'm sure at some point someone smarter than myself is going to sit down and figure it all out.
I'm not sure it was all about Jack necessarily but I can see how it can be interpreted that way. You could also view it as him being the last to come to grips with being dead before moving on as a group. I also don't understand the people who think they died in the crash. I figured the last shot when the credits were rolling was sort of a tribute to the show and the last 10 minutes were pretty clear in that they died at various points and their lives on the island were the most important parts of their collective lives etc. The only thing that really disappointed me was I felt it was sort of anti-climactic on island the last hour. Not as emotional as I was expecting.
I'm still digesting what happened last night. I'm of the mind that the story we saw represented Jack's destiny and that the things that happened both on the island and in Limbo that we saw in the show were told from his viewpoint/perspective.
Quote from: Eagles_Legendz on May 24, 2010, 10:09:08 AM
I'm not sure it was all about Jack necessarily but I can see how it can be interpreted that way. You could also view it as him being the last to come to grips with being dead before moving on as a group. I also don't understand the people who think they died in the crash. I figured the last shot when the credits were rolling was sort of a tribute to the show and the last 10 minutes were pretty clear in that they died at various points and their lives on the island were the most important parts of their collective lives etc. The only thing that really disappointed me was I felt it was sort of anti-climactic on island the last hour. Not as emotional as I was expecting.
Dead on the way I see it.
Jack wasn't the last one to die, but he was the last one to come to grips/understanding that he was dead, rely on faith and "let go", being he was a "man of science". I thought it was fairly straightforward.
Yeah, I think they could have done a better job-- but I don't really see the confusion. It was ridiculously clear-cut.
Yeah, it made sense to me. What bugged me is that just swept all the bizarre crap on the island to the side. Yeah, it happened, and now they're all dead. Big whoop.
Quote from: Susquehanna Birder on May 24, 2010, 01:05:05 PM
Yeah, it made sense to me. What bugged me is that just swept all the bizarre crap on the island to the side. Yeah, it happened, and now they're all dead. Big whoop.
They could have used that ending for any tv show.
The island events were a means to tell the story. The journey of the survivors and why they were there was answered in my opinion. Jacob got them all there to kill the smoke monster and to prevent him from leaving. He did it for two reasons: To make up for his mistake of creating him, and to free his brothers soul.
the more think about it the more down i am on this finale
so half the season was us seeing the characters when they died? and the whole point was for them to realize that they were dead and move on to heaven or something? so the after life you are basically the same person you were in the real world, except for some changes to certain people?
and the most important part of all their lives was for everyone except for sawyer, desmond, kate, crazy claire, lapidus, miles and a 200 year old man from the canary islands to die for some hellhole island that is now run by a fat dood and ben linus? seriously what is richard going to do in LA 2007? how is he going to adapt? what the farg. and what the hell are the numbers.
Richards accustomed to the current state of the world since he's been shown off the island numerous times.
oh yea, forgot that
but he doesnt know anybody. everyone he knows is dead. what the farg is he going to do?
The numbers also correspond to numbers retired by the Yankees:
4 - Gehrig
8 - Berra
15 - Munson
16 - Ford
23 - Mattingly
42 - Jackie Robinson
Minor aside...I know they wanted to bring back the dumb blonde, but Sayid's entire existance revolved around Nadia....and his big soul mate moment was with the blonde bimbo? Stupid.
THE ISLAND WAS IMPORTANT
EVERYTHING THAT HAPPENED WAS IMPORTANT
EXCEPT FOR PENNY AND DESMOND WHICH WAS AWESOME
http://jezebel.com/5606489/omfg-its-the-official-lost-epilogue
12 minutes that answer almost all of your questions
I haven't given the show a second thought since that fargtard finale.
haha of course pg reads jezzebel
actually, I had never seen the site, but the initial blog I read it on had the link to the youtube which Disney had pulled...and they replaced it with this link instead.
Hook me up if you can find the entire 12 minutes again
I thought the 12 minute epilogue was kind of weak. I thought there would be an on island scene or two.
Got a link? All the ones I've come across have been taken down.
**SPOILER**
I heard that Hurley leaves the Island to Walt and explains the polar bears to him. What explaination was there and what other highlights are there?
I don't care anymore about any of this
Quote from: SD on August 07, 2010, 10:51:49 AM
Got a link? All the ones I've come across have been taken down.
**SPOILER**
I heard that Hurley leaves the Island to Walt and explains the polar bears to him. What explaination was there and what other highlights are there?
Hurley doesn't explain the polar bears to him. Its explained via DVD.
Here is the link
http://www.megavideo.com/?v=NK6VVI14
Got any links where I don't have to give my credit card number?
Entire epilogue: http://tinypic.com/player.php?v=2e1ghnb&s=4
If it's not The Wire, it's not worth watching.
Quote from: SD on August 07, 2010, 05:15:59 PM
Got any links where I don't have to give my credit card number?
uh, I didn't have to.
It asked me for it and I'm pretty sure it was taken down by the time I clicked on your link. The one I posted was up lastnight because my roommate watched it, but I'm pretty sure it's down now. The whole thing seemed a little forced and unnecessary. They should have done an hours worth with some island footage.
Why? Based on the finale, the island didn't mean a farging thing.
Because the island is the basis of the show, they could have showed them on the island shutting down the other Dharma stations, maybe had some footage of them in the future with another plane crashing or boat arriving, found a chamber with Egyptian artifacts etc., instead they went the unimaginative route and explained things fan boys wanted to know like the food drops.
I would argue, again based on the finale, that the island doesn't mean shtein. They disposed of that storyline so quickly that they didn't even bother to try to make any logical sense. So they could get to that ridiculous love fest for the final hour and a half. Ugh.
Weezer names their new album after Lost's Hurley (http://music-mix.ew.com/2010/08/10/weezer-album-cover-hurley-lost/)
the epilogue was pointless
we all knew 6 years ago that they made this show and threw out all these crazy questions and stories without really having any kind of ending or answer to them. why is it shocking now that still nothing makes sense?
the fun part about lost was the ride. thats what you take out of it. and its been over.
maybe the best part in all of this are the nerds (possibly including sd) who spent 3000 hours breaking down each frame of the show and typing up ridiculous theories to what the island is and what this thing is and what this person said and bla bla bla.
its a friggin tv show. it was fun to watch. now its over. get on with your lives.
I had my theories but I always knew it would be a show that was left up to interpretation. Even with Star Wars I just never got into nerd battles over why certain things occurred. Like you said, it's pointless just like the epilogue.
it wasnt interpretation
they never really had any kind of idea how to wrap things up so they paralleled a fairly predictable island reality (jack sacrifices himself, hurley takes over, some characters die, others get off) with some purgatory bullshtein thats essential message was to "let go."
i.e. the show is over and we dont know what else to do, so let it go and move on cause its just a friggin tv show
You don't understand mythology/religion etc. then, because they parallel Lost and both are left up to interpretation. The big story lines were wrapped up but because different people believe different things no one will ever agree. The writers have even mentioned there would be a certain level of interpretation they're leaving up to the viewer, the first set would be immediately after the show ended, the next set would be about 5 years later.
I'm done with the show, I had to pick a mythology and write a paper on it so I chose Lost. The professor had only seen a few episodes but he even remarked "this show seems like a lot of viewer interpretation".
i guess
but you professor sounds like a real funhole