The Race(ism)/Hate Thread

[Diomedes]

Or, you could give your money to the hatemongers themselves by shopping at Walmart

[ice grillin you]

awesome tool the times put together


http://projects.nytimes.com/census/2010/explorer?view=raceethnicity&lat=40.6311&lng=-73.994&l=12

[Seabiscuit36]

ha, where i'm moving 92% whitey

[SunMo]

that is cool

[Diomedes]

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/12/24/nyregion/24commute.html?_r=1&hp

Bunch of white kids show up late at night banging down door of a black kid shouting slurs and threats.  Old man blows one of them away on his property and gets sentenced to jail for manslaughter and illegal possesion of a gun.

On one of his last days in office, Paterson says: get out of jail free brother.

Three cheers for Paterson.

Huzzah, huzzah, huzza!!

[ice grillin you]

Proposed Miss. license plate to honor KKK leader

EMILY WAGSTER PETTUS
The Associated Press

JACKSON, Miss. - A fight is brewing in Mississippi over a proposal to issue specialty license plates honoring Confederate Gen. Nathan Bedford Forrest, who was an early leader of the Ku Klux Klan.

The Mississippi Division of Sons of Confederate Veterans says it wants to sponsor a series of state-issued license plates to mark the 150th anniversary of what it calls the "War Between the States." The group proposes a different design each year between now and 2015, with Forrest slated for 2014.

"Seriously?" state NAACP president Derrick Johnson said when he was told about the Forrest plate. "Wow."

Forrest, a Tennessee native, is revered by some as a military genius and reviled by others for leading the 1864 massacre of black Union troops at Fort Pillow, Tenn. Forrest was a Klan grand wizard in Tennessee after the war.

Sons of Confederate Veterans member Greg Stewart said he believes Forrest distanced himself from the Klan later in life. It's a point many historians agree upon, though some believe it was too little, too late, because the Klan had already turned violent before Forrest left.

"If Christian redemption means anything , and we all want redemption, I think , he redeemed himself in his own time, in his own actions, in his own words," Stewart said. "We should respect that."

State Department of Revenue spokeswoman Kathy Waterbury said legislators would have to approve a series of Civil War license plates. She said if every group that has a specialty license plate wanted a redesign every year, it would take an inordinate amount time from Department of Revenue employees who have other duties.

SCV has not decided what the Forrest license plate would look like, Stewart said. Opponents are using their imagination.

A Facebook group called "Mississippians Against The Commemoration Of Grand Wizard Nathan Forrest" features a drawing of a hooded klansman in the center of a regular Mississippi car tag.

Robert McElvaine, director of history department at the private Millsaps College in Jackson, joined the Facebook group. McElvaine said Forrest's role at Fort Pillow and involvement in the Klan make him unworthy of being honored, even on the bumpers of cars.

"The idea of celebrating such a person, whatever his accomplishments in other areas may have been, seems like a very poor idea," McElvaine told The Associated Press.

Mississippi lawmakers have shown a decidedly laissez-faire attitude toward allowing a wide variety groups to have speciality license plates, which usually sell for an extra $30 to $50 a year. The state sells more than 100 specialty plates for everything from wildlife conservation to breast cancer awareness. One design says "God Bless America," another depicts Elvis Presley. Among the biggest sellers are NASCAR designs and one with the slogan "Choose Life."

The Mississippi Division of the Sons of Confederate Veterans has had a state-issued specialty license plate since 2003 to raise money for restoration of Civil War-era flags. From 2003 through 2010, the design featured a small Confederate battle flag.

The Department of Revenue allowed the group to revise the license plate this year for the first of the Civil War sesquicentennial designs. The 2011 plate, now on sale, depicts the Beauvoir mansion in Biloxi, Miss., the final home of Jefferson Davis, the Confederate president.

SCV wants license plates to feature Civil War battles that took place in Mississippi. It proposes a Battle of Corinth design for 2012 and Siege of Vicksburg design for 2013. Stewart said the 2015 plate would be a tribute to Confederate veterans.

Johnson, with the National Association for the Advancement of Colored People, said he's not bothered by Civil War commemorative license plates generally. But he said Mississippi shouldn't honor Forrest, who was an early leader of what he calls "a terrorist group."

"He should be viewed in the same light that we view Saddam Hussein and Osama bin Laden," Johnson said of Forrest. "The state of Mississippi should deny any vanity tags which would highlight racial hatred in this state."

Democratic Rep. Willie Bailey, who handles license plate requests in the House, said he has no problem with SCV seeking any design it wants.

"If they want a tag commemorating veterans of the Confederacy, I don't have a problem with it," said Bailey, who is black. "They have that right. We'll look at it. As long as it's not offensive to anybody, then they have the same rights as anybody else has."

[Diomedes]

Who cares.

[Tomahawk]

People who aren't racist care

[Diomedes]

Chalk me up as racist then, because this is some stupid shtein.  Let them have their plate, let the fools who like this old kkk guy pay the state they claim to also hate extra money, whatever.

Liberals never cease to amaze me on this point:  nevermind actual racism that actually affects people's lives, time after time they go in for a dumb shtein fight over stupid crap like this. 

[ice grillin you]

yeah shut up stupid old black southerners...what you know bout the racism

[Diomedes]

Not much, apparently.

[Sgt PSN]

I sort of agree with Dio.  If these idiots want to give a few extra bucks to the state so they can drive around with some KKK dude on their license plate, then let them so long as they don't bitch when they walk out of wal mart and find their car on fire. 

[MDS]

im gonna put a picture honoring osama bin laden on my license plate. well see how well that goes over.

[ice grillin you]

i think its a retarded thing for a state to do...i also agree that its not a huge deal...im just not sure if we should be telling old black folk in mississippi when they should or shouldnt be upset over issues of race...im guessing they have a slightly different perspective than a 30 year old ditch digging hipster from the northeast

just sayin

[MDS]

telling someone who thinks hes always the smartest guy in the room that he has no perspective on a given situation is a recipe for a massive blow up

though let me add i generally like dio mostly because of his extreme liberal politics. otherwise hed be just awful.