Dead in 2012

[Diomedes]

He shot himself in the chest.....

I see dignity and honor in this kind of thing.  I don't know the man personally, but from what I've read I'll assume he knew what he was doing and went out on his own terms.   

c'mon ladies. they're not canceling football.
idiots.

Nope.  But get it straight, CTE is going to change the game in a big way. 

[Don Ho]

How so Don?

I was referring to what Sarge posted about Seau driving his SUV off the cliff.  I believe it was in Carlsbad.  He claimed he fell asleep but "reports" surfaced it was a suicide attempt.  I thought there was another incident but can't recall. 

He always came across as a real cool guy.  Always personable and friendly when out here for the Pro Bowl.

[ice grillin you]

im sure not ALL cases of lung cancer in smokers is caused by smoking either

[PhillyPhreak54]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pR67bL-7As0&sns=em

Three weeks ago.

[rjs246]

I think it's easy for us to dismiss the idea of serious changes to the league because we're football fans and the violence is part of what draws us to it. But for people who don't live and die with football, shtein like this, and the implication (right or wrong) that football was the cause, is appalling and inexcusable. When those voices become loud enough we will see drastic changes. Guaranteed.

[Sgt PSN]

When those voices become loud enough we will see drastic changes. Guaranteed.

Except "those voices" belong to people who don't really care about uneducated black folk (or deck builder in this case) who get hit in the head a lot and die early in life.

[rjs246]

Enough with the racial shtein. Cornfed Nebraska honkies in the trenches will suffer from this shtein just like anyone else. At some point the chorus against will out-shout the hard core fans.

[hbionic]

rjs, you're acting like a negative overlord again. Tone it down.

[phattymatty]

by the time they have a sample size big enough to prove that there's an actual scientific connection between these guys offing themselves and football, we'll all be long gone.

how many musicians, actors, famous people kill themselves. the answer is lots. and they don't get their brains smashed on the regular.

people get farged up for various reasons and handle their shtein in different ways.

yeah it's common sense that playing football fargs you up. but this won't change anything.

[PoopyfaceMcGee]

Enough with the racial shtein. Cornfed Nebraska honkies in the trenches will suffer from this shtein just like anyone else. At some point the chorus against will out-shout the hard core fans.

Freddiette makes a good point. Boxing and MMA would go away first. The NFL will probably just get away with more token efforts to improve safety. Maybe helmets that are soft on the inside AND outside, perhaps?

[PhillyPhanInDC]

I think it's easy for us to dismiss the idea of serious changes to the league because we're football fans and the violence is part of what draws us to it. But for people who don't live and die with football, shtein like this, and the implication (right or wrong) that football was the cause, is appalling and inexcusable. When those voices become loud enough we will see drastic changes. Guaranteed.

To wit:
http://www.newyorker.com/reporting/2009/10/19/091019fa_fact_gladwell

by the time they have a sample size big enough to prove that there's an actual scientific connection between these guys offing themselves and football, we'll all be long gone.

how many musicians, actors, famous people kill themselves. the answer is lots. and they don't get their brains smashed on the regular.

people get farged up for various reasons and handle their shtein in different ways.

yeah it's common sense that playing football fargs you up. but this won't change anything.

Yeah, because the government and other types don't fly off the handle over sensationalized things like this - say HGH or steroids in baseball.

I think this thing with Seau certainly has the chance to cause enough of a scene that an inquiry by dopes who know or care little for the actual statistics could occur, and that it could have a dramatic impact on the sport. Am I saying seasons or the game will be canceled? No. I will say this is something the league has obviously been very worried about for a few years now, and have been left to their own devices on it. Seau was an all-star, and one of the most popular players in the sport recently, it has the potential to attract a shteinload of uninformed second-guessers with power to impose all sorts of funniness.

All that being said, probably a good time to move this stuff over to the CTE thread.

[phattymatty]

pour one out for MCA

i hate emoticons but this deserves 1,000 sad faces.

RIP kid

[QB Eagles]

pour one out for MCA

i hate emoticons but this deserves 1,000 sad faces.

RIP kid

For real? shtein.

[QB Eagles]

Yeah it's all over the place now. I guess he tried beating treatable cancer with the vegan Buddhist Steve Jobs approach.

[hbionic]

What the farg? No sonnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn!!!!!