The Sports Media Thread

Started by ice grillin you, October 21, 2009, 09:08:54 AM

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Sgt PSN

Should be a decent show until he starts puking on air during the last 2 minutes, amirite?

Sgt PSN

Anyone else going to watch the 3 specials on NBA tv tonight?

8pm - MJ & Ahmad Rashad
9pm - Bill Russell & Bill Simmons
10pm - Sir Charles Turns 50 with Ernie Johnson

Kind of wish Simmons wasn't in on this but I'll still watch because it's Bill farging Russell. 

PhillyPhreak54

Simmons is an NBA junkie and I like his takes usually despite him being a shteinbag Celtic fan.


Sgt PSN

I've grown weary of his Grantland stuff already.  I mean, there's some good stuff but I've always found his pieces way too long even dating back to articles on ESPN and he just seems douchey now.  And I really hope he doesn't spend the hour just sucking off Russell.  That's why I'd rather it be someone who wasn't so emotionally attached.  Imagine watching Havas interview Buddy Ryan.  Or MDS interviewing Joey B and Howie at the same time. 

No one actually wants to see that, right?   

PhillyPhreak54

Actually I would.

Imagine the hilarity in both situations.

Havas sitting on Buddy's lap and then paying him to swing on him Gilbride style.

MDS, Howie and Banner blinging out their yarmulkes and sticking pins into and Andy Reid voodoo doll?

Sold.

MDS

wait how am i a banner/howie fanboy? because we were both born into the same fairy tale?
Zero hour, Michael. It's the end of the line. I'm the firstborn. I'm sick of playing second fiddle. I'm always third in line for everything. I'm tired of finishing fourth. Being the fifth wheel. There are six things I'm mad about, and I'm taking over.

ice grillin you

because you hate buddy therefore you must love howie....which frankly makes quite a bit of sense
i can take a phrase thats rarely heard...flip it....now its a daily word

igy gettin it done like warrick

im the board pharmacist....always one step above yous

Sgt PSN

Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on February 18, 2013, 08:51:41 PM
Actually I would.

Imagine the hilarity in both situations.

Havas sitting on Buddy's lap and then paying him to swing on him Gilbride style.

MDS, Howie and Banner blinging out their yarmulkes and sticking pins into and Andy Reid voodoo doll?

Sold.

Good point.  But the losers who frequent this board are about the only ones who would find entertainment value in that.  Could you imagine being a non-Eagles fan (no, I know you really can't) and watching 60 minutes of Buddy breast feeding Havas?  It would creep you out. 

Quote from: ice grillin you on February 19, 2013, 07:25:26 AM
because you hate buddy therefore you must love howie....which frankly makes quite a bit of sense

haha

MDS

i dont hate buddy i just dont worship him and am quick to point out he was a failure of a head coach (winning wise)
Zero hour, Michael. It's the end of the line. I'm the firstborn. I'm sick of playing second fiddle. I'm always third in line for everything. I'm tired of finishing fourth. Being the fifth wheel. There are six things I'm mad about, and I'm taking over.

Sgt PSN

Quote from: Sgt PSN on February 18, 2013, 03:35:29 PM
Anyone else going to watch the 3 specials on NBA tv tonight?

8pm - MJ & Ahmad Rashad
9pm - Bill Russell & Bill Simmons
10pm - Sir Charles Turns 50 with Ernie Johnson

Kind of wish Simmons wasn't in on this but I'll still watch because it's Bill farging Russell. 

I recorded them, but finally just got to watch the MJ interview last night.  It was great if you like watching some old MJ highlights.  And who doesn't?  But it was pretty much the worst interview ever.  I'd say it was about half highlight reel and half interview.  And not that I was expecting any groundbreaking work or hard hitting questions from Ahmad Rashad, but this wasn't an interview, it was more like Ahmad asking MJ to reminisce about a few specific moments in his career.   It also felt like Ahmad used the opportunity to point out to the viewer that he's known MJ for quite a long time and that they were boys or something.  It was like "Hey, look at me!  I rode in the car with Michael on his way to the arena for his 1st game back in 1995! OMG, I'm so awesome!"

Hopefully I'll knock the other 2 out this weekend.  I really hope they're done better than the MJ interview was.  Then again, they really can't be much worse. 

ice grillin you

are you talking to yourself again?
i can take a phrase thats rarely heard...flip it....now its a daily word

igy gettin it done like warrick

im the board pharmacist....always one step above yous

Sgt PSN


PhillyPhreak54


ice grillin you

finally got around to reading the wright thompson jordan espn mag piece....better than advertised....amazing get
i can take a phrase thats rarely heard...flip it....now its a daily word

igy gettin it done like warrick

im the board pharmacist....always one step above yous

ice grillin you

QuoteSeeing Riches in Sports TV, Fox Will Create New Network

By RICHARD SANDOMIR and AMY CHOZICK

For Rupert Murdoch, creating a national cable sports network in the United States to compete with ESPN has been his white whale — a tantalizing television opportunity but one of the few fields that his media empire has not conquered.

But two decades after shaking up the sports broadcasting world for the first time by acquiring N.F.L. rights, Murdoch has plans to challenge ESPN head on and claim some of the lucrative revenue that the sports media giant has had largely to itself for more than three decades.

On Tuesday, Fox will announce its intention to start Fox Sports 1, an all-sports network, in August.

The channel will carry Nascar races, Major League Baseball games, college basketball and football, soccer and U.F.C. fights. It will also broadcast studio shows, including one that is to be hosted by Regis Philbin, a celebrated Notre Dame fan.

Murdoch's effort is a long shot to topple ESPN, or at least take a huge bite out of it.

ESPN brings in more than $6 billion annually from its industry-high subscriber fees. It owns the rights to televise Major League Baseball; the N.F.L.; the N.B.A.; Nascar; tennis; myriad collegiate conferences; the Bowl Championship Series and its new playoffs; and a raft of other sports. Both ESPN and ESPN2 have 98.5 million subscribers.

It is a true empire, with eight domestic cable channels; the ESPN3 broadband network; the Web sites ESPN.com and Grantland.com; a radio network; digital properties like ESPNw, which focuses on women's sports; a magazine; the WatchESPN app, which enables viewing of ESPN on computers, smartphones and tablets; and ownership of the Global X Games, college basketball tournaments and seven bowl games.

Fox Sports 1 will join a market that is far more crowded than it was when Murdoch first contemplated squaring off against ESPN. Not only will Fox face the dominance of ESPN, but NBC and CBS have their own sports channels, which are struggling for viewers and identities. The Big Ten and Pacific-12 conferences have created their own networks, and the Southeastern Conference is planning one. And in the past decade, M.L.B., the N.F.L., the N.B.A. and the N.H.L. have started their own channels.

Still, Fox and its parent, News Corporation, have a companywide faith in sports as a DVR-proof way to attract viewers — especially young men — and a belief that their new sports channel will differentiate itself from the competition, as the Fox News channel has demonstrated in its successful challenge to CNN and then MSNBC. To ensure that Fox Sports 1 has some of the style and attitude that Fox Sports has had since it began in the mid-1990s, Murdoch and Chase Carey, News Corporation's president and chief operating officer, brought back one of their favorite executives, David Hill, for its creation and launch. Hill, the former head of the Fox Sports Media Group, left the division last year for another job within News Corporation.

"We think sports is a huge arena that has room in it to build a really attractive businesses," Carey told analysts on an earnings call last month. He said that the company recognizes the escalating costs of sports rights but "in a world of increasing fragmentation, we think sports continues to be a more and more important and unique part of that overall landscape."

The channel's success might not have to come as a result of beating ESPN at its game.

David Bank, managing director of global media and Internet research at RBC Capital Markets, said that Fox Sports 1 would be a success "from Day 1" and could, in future years, bid against ESPN for N.B.A. rights and any cable package of N.F.L. games that might come to market.

"Do I expect them to be ESPN? No," he said. "Mega-success will be hard to determine for five years."

But, he said, "Rupert and Chase have had a pretty decent run at building long-term value."

Michael Nathanson, an analyst at Nomura Securities, wrote in a recent report that Fox Sports 1 would be a "good start" for News Corporation but was "unlikely to make a material dent to ESPN's business for the investable time horizon."

One way to measure Fox Sports 1's future success will be how many subscribers it gets and the subscriber fees it can accumulate. Fox has spent months working to convert Speed, a motorsports-centric network with 81 million subscribers, to Fox Sports 1. A companion service, Fox Sports 2, will replace another niche channel, Fuel.

Fox is seeking substantially more for Fox Sports 1 than the 31-cent monthly subscriber fee that Speed gets, according to the media research firm SNL Kagan.

Bank estimated that Fox Sports 1 will probably charge cable, satellite and telephone companies 75 cents to $1 a subscriber. "At $1 a sub, it's a massive home run," he said.

By comparison, ESPN charges $5.15 a month and additional fees for its other channels.

"We view Fox as a formidable competitor," said John Skipper, ESPN's president. "They've got the resources of News Corp., and the willingness that Fox has shown in the past to take big bets and to create a difference."

He added: "We like our hand. We just have to play it well."

Fox is certainly asset-rich. It plans to use existing long-term deals to fill Fox Sports 1 with M.L.B. games, including some from the league division series, beginning in 2014; Nascar Sprint Cup and truck races; U.F.C. matches; future World Cup soccer matches; and Big 12 and Pac-12 football and basketball games, as well as those from a basketball conference that is being formed by the seven Catholic universities that are leaving the Big East. The new network is also expected to buy some Big East games from ESPN.

Fox also has 22 regional sports networks to plumb for talent and some of its baseball programming. Two of those regional channels, each in Los Angeles, recently lost the rights to carry the Lakers and the Dodgers — each to networks created by Time Warner Cable. But last November, News Corporation made a major foray into the New York sports market by paying about $2 billion for a 49 percent stake in the YES Network, the profitable channel of the Yankees, with an option to buy up to 80 percent in three years.

Still, the possibility of starting a national sports network constitutes unfinished business at Fox.

In the late 1990s, Fox tied a package of M.L.B. games and a news operation with Keith Olbermann as the star anchor on its regional sports channels. It failed. Recalling that time, a former Fox executive said, "It was Chase's vision that we'd use the regional sports networks to transition into a national sports network."

Then, in 2004, Murdoch tried to create a national channel in partnership with the N.F.L. and cable operators. At the time, Murdoch said, "We want to consider the capacity of pay television subscribers to pay for two ESPNs."

But that effort never got off the ground, and he has waited nine years to make his next move.

Sports will become even more integral by this summer, when News Corporation splits into two publicly traded companies. The company's newspapers, including The Wall Street Journal and The New York Post, will join a publishing-based company that will retain the name News Corporation. The 20th Century Fox studio, Fox Broadcasting, Fox Sports, the cable channels FX and Fox News and the regional sports networks will form the Fox Group.

News Corporation has recently grown its sports business in the United States and abroad, making live sports programming central to the Fox Group, executives have said.

In the past year, News Corporation paid $335 million to complete its acquisition of Singapore-based ESPN Star Sports, previously a joint venture with the Walt Disney Company, and $757.6 million to broadcast Indian Premier League cricket through March 2018 on its Star TV channel.

"Across the whole sports portfolio, it's about making choices about where you want to invest and where to prioritize," James Murdoch, the deputy chief operating officer of News Corporation, said on the earnings call last month.
i can take a phrase thats rarely heard...flip it....now its a daily word

igy gettin it done like warrick

im the board pharmacist....always one step above yous