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Title: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: MDS on April 20, 2016, 02:46:47 PM
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Title: Re: Carson Wentz or Jared Goff, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: ice grillin you on April 20, 2016, 02:48:11 PM
maybe
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: MDS on April 20, 2016, 02:49:52 PM
i just cant believe, that even this franchise, wouldnt move up to 2 unless they knew who was there

they cant say anything until the rams make it official, but come on
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on April 20, 2016, 02:56:35 PM
Look test fail.

College competition level fail.

Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: SD on April 20, 2016, 02:58:17 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kBJEfmQA9q4
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Diomedes on April 20, 2016, 05:58:19 PM
I too would have traded.  But down.  For more players.  Not this.

Boo.
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: QB Eagles on April 20, 2016, 11:58:57 PM
They were probably going to be bad for a couple of years. Now they will probably be worse, for longer. At least this trajectory gives them some nonzero chance to score a legit franchise QB for a long time. If Wentz isn't the guy they'll be in position to take the top QB in 2018.

The move doesn't make much sense to me. The Browns decided they were better off with RGIII than whoever they could draft in this spot. Yet the Eagles see the pick projecting as better than Sam Bradford. You can go far by making decisions opposite to everything the Browns do, but this is ridiculous. Reeks of a GM and coach who sense they are short timers if they don't succeed quickly off a desperation move.
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on April 21, 2016, 12:00:33 AM
I don't buy into the Browns rejected one of these guys. With their new regime there they need picks and youth. Their roster is the worst in the league and it needs as many new players as it can get
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: QB Eagles on April 21, 2016, 12:08:08 AM
The Browns haven't had a legit QB since Bernie Kosar. You think they'd pass on someone they think could be the guy? They've drafted a bunch of young studs at other positions over the last decade or so, but they tend to bail for a better team in free agency because the QB problem remains unsolved.
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: ice grillin you on April 21, 2016, 12:27:19 AM
Quote from: QB Eagles on April 21, 2016, 12:08:08 AM
The Browns haven't had a legit QB since Bernie Kosar. You think they'd pass on someone they think could be the guy? They've drafted a bunch of young studs at other positions over the last decade or so, but they tend to bail for a better team in free agency because the QB problem remains unsolved.

j would sever a limb before he gave the browns a chance to be smarter than his beloved eagles

that being said I don't think anyone knows what this new browns regime is all about...its vorpy and been there for 15 minutes
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: SD on April 21, 2016, 07:22:51 AM
After sleeping on this deal, farg it, I'm all in. Bradford isn't leading the Eagles to a SB. We've been spinning our wheels looking for a steady QB since Mcnabb left. I've watched/read/listened to as much as possible (both negative and positive) on Wentz enough to think the guy could be a top 10 QB. He's smart, big, fast, has a big arm, has intangibles, he's a perfect QB specimen. I'd be more worried about the jump from 1AA to the NFL if he was getting thrown into the fire. He gets to sit and learn for a season, which will be huge. If the guy turns into a top 10 QB the picks they gave up are irrelevant. You aren't winning a SB without a stud QB. Sure a team like the Broncos comes along with a dominant D every now and again, but that's not the norm.

So again, farg it, I'm 100% in.
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Rome on April 21, 2016, 08:53:37 AM
The Browns wanted Goff. When they realized he was going to LA they simply booted the pick.  If Wentz turns out to be a franchise QBthis deal will look like small potatoes in retrospect.
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on April 21, 2016, 09:03:32 AM
Quote from: ice grillin you on April 21, 2016, 12:27:19 AM
Quote from: QB Eagles on April 21, 2016, 12:08:08 AM
The Browns haven't had a legit QB since Bernie Kosar. You think they'd pass on someone they think could be the guy? They've drafted a bunch of young studs at other positions over the last decade or so, but they tend to bail for a better team in free agency because the QB problem remains unsolved.

j would sever a limb before he gave the browns a chance to be smarter than his beloved eagles

that being said I don't think anyone knows what this new browns regime is all about...its vorpy and been there for 15 minutes

Yeah - because I am all in on this trade and never rip your boy Howie or anything
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: phattymatty on April 21, 2016, 09:05:52 AM
Whatever, I'm kind of cool with this. I don't mind Bradford but he's boring. Whether this dude becomes and all-pro or a total bust it will be more interesting to watch. In.
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Butchers Bill on April 21, 2016, 11:40:23 AM
I just spent 10-15 minutes watching "highlights" of this guy on youtube.

I am obviously not a scout, but have watched football at every level for 35 years.

From what I observe, as a fan of the game, this guy is not an NFL QB.  He simply doesn't make good throws and excelled against mediocre competition.  Many of his "highlight" throws will be INTs at the next level, and forget about him running...ssslllloooowww.

I am officially off the Wentz bandwagon...if there is one.
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Eagaholic on April 21, 2016, 11:52:47 AM
I would have minded taking a chance on Wentz at 8, but why give up all this material when you can just keep Bradford Instead? Does Wentz really give you THAT much more of a chance than Bradford will? It won't be horrible if the Eagles can eventually recoup a first-rounder for Bradford but what if he goes down with another ACL? I think they're probably screwed then, I don't see Howie and Company being able to make up the difference to put together a SB competitive team at that point. Not within the next three or four years anyway.
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on April 21, 2016, 01:32:12 PM
That's my thing - during the season the talk was how weak this QB class was. Now all of a sudden these two guys are worthy of top picks?!

In a normal class they'd be in the 20's or early 2nd round. But hey - let's trade a shtein ton of picks for a d2 dude
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Rome on April 21, 2016, 03:10:47 PM
Wentz was the second-fastest QB at the combine and his throws were almost uniformly perfect.

Oh, and he has prototypical NFL measurements and his intangibles are off the charts as well.

So, yeah, the Eagles are definitely stupid for taking him.
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: smeags on April 21, 2016, 03:14:31 PM
gonna be a summer of bleeding vags around here.
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: ice grillin you on April 21, 2016, 03:34:53 PM
homer romey when the rams traded up for wentz....

Quote from: Rome on April 14, 2016, 12:01:35 PM
That's insanity, pure and simple.  Jesus the Rams are nuts.

homer romey when his eagles traded up for wentz...


Quote from: Rome on April 21, 2016, 03:10:47 PM
Wentz was the second-fastest QB at the combine and his throws were almost uniformly perfect.

Oh, and he has prototypical NFL measurements and his intangibles are off the charts as well.

So, yeah, the Eagles are definitely stupid for taking him.
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Rome on April 21, 2016, 03:39:40 PM
Where did I say the deal was a good one?  Oh, that's right.  I didn't.  I think they gave up way too much to go up to #2 but I also said if he's a franchise QB, the deal will end up being a good one.

I was disputing the suggestions that he was slow (he isn't) he has a zesty arm (he doesn't) and he's not capable of being an NFL quarterback because he went to a D-II school (plainly absurd).

Reading really is fundamental, Havas.  You should actually try it sometimes instead of pounding your farging keyboard like an imbecile whenever someone expresses an opinion you disagree with.
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Butchers Bill on April 21, 2016, 03:58:21 PM
Quote from: Rome on April 21, 2016, 03:39:40 PM

I was disputing the suggestions that he was slow (he isn't) he has a zesty arm (he doesn't) and he's not capable of being an NFL quarterback because he went to a D-II school (plainly absurd).


Watch the highlights is all I am saying.  Combine speed is not game speed.  #Mamula

He may have a strong arm (e.g. can throw it 75 yards) but again, watch the film and tell me a lot of those passes don't get picked against better/faster players.  Mick Vick and his great arm say "hi" btw. 
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: phattymatty on April 21, 2016, 04:11:01 PM
Well I would trade away much more than they did for a 21 year old Mike Vick. I don't even understand that comparison. Take away the dog fighting and he could easily have easily won a SB with the right team.


Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: smeags on April 21, 2016, 04:17:11 PM
im wondering what film bill is watching. cause obviously all the guru's missed it.


Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Butchers Bill on April 21, 2016, 04:20:52 PM
Quote from: smeags on April 21, 2016, 04:17:11 PM
im wondering what film bill is watching. cause obviously all the guru's missed it.

I think a lot were. 3 months ago this kid was a third round project and now he's the second pick in the draft?
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Rome on April 21, 2016, 04:25:34 PM
A player who was out eight weeks of the season with an injury while playing on a team in North Dakota wasn't on the national media's radar?

I'm shocked.
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: smeags on April 21, 2016, 04:26:50 PM
bill - I don't know what this kid will turn out to be in the nfl, but as a fan I have no say in the matter so i'll let it play out. its part of the excitement. the unknown.



and to answer your next question, yes, I will flip a farging lid if he's a bust.
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Rome on April 21, 2016, 04:31:56 PM
We'll all lose our shtein if he busts out and I don't think there's a single true Eagles fan who doesn't expect him to be a POS somewhere in the back of his mind.   

Maybe they'll get lucky this time and he'll turn out to be a star.  I doubt it but you never know.
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on April 21, 2016, 06:34:31 PM
And if he's taken by LA?

How does Goff make you guys feel
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Rome on April 21, 2016, 07:06:53 PM
Like a natural woman?

Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: MDS on April 21, 2016, 07:08:10 PM
troll troll troll your rome, gentle down the look the way other way while fsu players go on a rape spree stream....
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on April 21, 2016, 07:28:52 PM
Quote from: Rome on April 21, 2016, 07:06:53 PM
Like a natural woman?

Haha

And lol at lil guy calling out some trolling
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: ice grillin you on April 21, 2016, 08:32:31 PM

Quote from: Rome on April 14, 2016, 12:01:35 PM
That's insanity, pure and simple.  Jesus the Rams are nuts.
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: General_Failure on April 21, 2016, 08:47:05 PM
Don't be mad that Rome got through his stages of grief quicker than you. It isn't a competition.
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Rome on April 21, 2016, 09:02:30 PM
QuoteTennessee sent the top selection, along with its fourth- (No. 113) and sixth-round (No. 177) picks this year, to the Rams in exchange for Los Angeles' first-round pick (No. 15), two second-round selections (Nos. 43 and 45) and a third-round pick (No. 76) in 2016. The Titans will also get the Rams' first- and third-round picks in 2017.

(2) #1's, (2) #2's & (2) #3's for a 1, 4 & 6 is definitely the same as the Eagles gave up.

MATH
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: ice grillin you on April 21, 2016, 10:38:21 PM
MATH is eagles are the bestest!!
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: General_Failure on April 21, 2016, 11:53:11 PM
Well 2 is better than 1, so they got the better deal. The numbers check out.
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: smeags on April 22, 2016, 09:32:59 AM
Quote from: smeags on April 21, 2016, 03:14:31 PM
gonna be a spring & summer of bleeding vags around here.
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Eagaholic on April 23, 2016, 09:31:47 AM
Ha, wait til the fall. That's when we all learn Wentz will be the worst bust ever in the history of sports. ever.
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on April 23, 2016, 02:18:25 PM
Mike Silver saying that Goff is the top guy for the Rams and was viewed as the top guy by most everyone he spoke to. He said the Wentz hype is mainly scout based because they like undiscovered flavors
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: ice grillin you on April 23, 2016, 03:40:19 PM
Quote from: Rome on April 14, 2016, 12:01:35 PM
That's insanity, pure and simple.  Jesus the Rams are nuts.
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: ice grillin you on April 27, 2016, 09:43:09 AM
QuoteWhere are franchise quarterbacks found?  If an NFL team thinks they have the answer, they're wrong.  That's a question that the entire NFL can't answer, because no team knows. What is a "franchise" quarterback?  That's an easier question. If you're the Chicago Bears, apparently it's Jay Cutler and his 7 year, $126M contract.  If you're the Falcons, It's Matt Ryan and his $23.75M cap hit the next several seasons.  Many NFL teams have paid good but not great QBs to be their franchise quarterback, and I'm looking right at the Lions, Ravens, Chiefs and 49ers.

Both the Rams and Eagles recently traded up into the top two of this year's NFL draft to snag their franchise quarterback.  If they're wrong, they gave up a lot in the process, as both team's lost out on tremendous value by making these moves.  One of the best talent evaluators and front office strategists the last several years, Seattle's GM John Schneider, called this the most impressive draft class he's seen joining the Seahawks in 2010.  If he's right, having many draft picks in this particular draft would be wise.  So why are teams exchanging multiple selections in a talent-rich draft to move up to grab just one, single player they "hope" will save their franchise?  It's a valid question, but one that has been dismissed by many NFL analysts, who opined that what the Rams and Eagles did was was the right move.  It's been called "the only move to make" for a team in search of a franchise QB.  Because its unlikely you'll find a franchise QB unless you're at the very top of the NFL draft.

Eagles executive vice president of football operations Howie Roseman made it quite clear in his press conference that based on all of their analysis, they felt like moving up from #8 to #2 was where they needed to be to draft their next franchise QB.  We've also heard stories that in today's pass-heavy era, every team knows it "needs" a QB to win games, so franchise QBs don't last on the board.  The most important position in the NFL is the quarterback, as everyone knows, and the best players won't make it out of the first few picks.

Here's the problem with that mindset:  bad teams usually draft high, bad teams usually are managed poorly, bad teams usually are poor talent evaluators, and thus, good NFL QBs, even franchise QBs, can be found outside the top few picks in the draft.

We've been told good QBs can't be found anymore outside the top of the NFL draft.  Howie Roseman mortgaged much of his draft on that belief.  "It's impossible to draft a franchise Qb unless you're at the top of the draft", they said. Especially in the 5 years since the NFL changed the hit rules (mid-season 2010).

But just because teams know they need a decent QB to have a shot does not mean the first couple QBs off the board in the first round will be the answer.  In fact, it should be universal truth that the following six 2nd round-or-later QBs from the last 5 years will have better NFL careers than these six 1st round QBs drafted over the same span:
◾2nd Round or later: Andy Dalton (2), Tyrod Taylor (6), Russell Wilson (3), Brock Osweiler (2), Kirk Cousins (4) and Derek Carr (2)
◾1st Round: Jake Locker, Blaine Gabbert, Christian Ponder, Brandon Weeden, EJ Manuel and Johnny Manziel

And these are just the last 5 years, when the NFL turned its focus to the pass game in part due to rule changes.  What about prior to the rule changes?   I could easily rattle off number one overall picks including Tim Couch, JaMarcus Russell or David Carr. Or top three picks including Ryan Leaf, Heath Shuler, Akili Smith, Joey Harrington or Vince Young. But focusing not on the failures, but those that worked out and became "franchise" quarterbacks, let's take the analysis back to 2000.  The below graphic lists a variety of "franchise"  quarterbacks and where they were drafted, using the following simplistic and extremely loose definition:
◾Lasting long enough (tenure) to start 50 games and
◾Compiling a passer rating of over 80.

This certainly isn't the best way to measure if a quarterback is a "franchise QB" or not, but typically to earn the money of a franchise QB (which varies based on era), there is an element of longevity and durability coupled with some baseline level of performance.  And while a passer rating of 80 doesn't sound spectacular, the last 10 years, exactly 200 QBs produced seasons where they averaged ratings over 80 (in at least 10 starts), and collectively they won 60% of their games (between 9-7 and 10-6 on the season).

Included are QBs who started 50+ games anytime after 2000, even if they were drafted previously.  The darker the green circle, the better the career passer rating (though keep in mind only QBs who recorded at least an 80 rating appear on the graphic).

In the mid-2000s, the argument was that Tom Brady, a compensatory selection and 199th overall, was a rare gem and no other QB would be mis-evaluated as poorly again.  There would be no more late round talents.  A few years later, Tony Romo went undrafted, and while certainly not Tom Brady, he has put up numbers certainly worthy of the label "franchise quarterback".  More recently, Russell Wilson came along in 2012 in the 3rd round, to post solid numbers, win a Super Bowl, and earn a huge payday in his 2nd deal.  Still we hear:  "that won't ever happen again".  Time will tell.

The point is, you don't have to be a top pick to be a franchise quarterback.  Drew Brees and Andy Dalton went in the 2nd round.  Ben Roethlisberger and Aaron Rodgers were drafted outside the top 10.  And of course, other quarterbacks drafted lower have outperformed their first round competition, such as:
◾2011 – Tyrod Taylor was drafted in the 6th round, as the 11th QB off the board) well after #8 overall Jake Locker, #10 overall Blaine Gabbert, and #12 overall Christian Ponder.  Andy Dalton was drafted in the 2nd round that year as well.  Is Tyrod Taylor a franchise QB?  Probably not.  Andy Dalton is being paid as one, and both are far better than any of those mentioned who were drafted inside the 12th overall.
◾2012 – A slew of potential or definite franchise QBs were drafted late in this draft, including Russell Wilson in the 3rd round and Kirk Cousins in the 4th round.  Even Brock Osweiler was drafted late in the 2nd round, ahead of 1st rounder Brandon Weeden.
◾2013 – Unlike 2012, there were no QBs in this draft.  EJ Manuel was the only QB drafted in the first round, followed by Geno Smith as the only QB in the second round.
◾2014/2015 – A total of 14 QBs were drafted in 2014 and 7 more were drafted in 2015.  Its entirely too early to say which of these QBs will become franchise QBs or not.  Certainly Jameis Winston and Marcus Mariota, the only two QBs who started games from the 2015 class, look on their way.  One of three first round QBs from 2014, Johnny Manziel, is without a team and saw multiple agents terminate him.  This year, we may get to see if Jimmy Garoppolo is the heir apparent to Tom Brady's throne.  A.J. McCarron and his 6:2 TD:INT in 3 starts last year showed some promise.  But potentially one of the best of the entire 2014 class was drafted in the 2nd round: Derek Carr.

Where are franchise quarterbacks found?  I'd argue they are found just as much as they are bred.  You certainly must have the talent, but you also need the coaching to refine and perfect the mechanics.  You need the hours and hours of work in the film room.  You need the support system.  You need the right play caller and right schemes.  You need teammates on both offense and defense. You could move a young Tom Brady to the 2002 David Carr led Houston Texans, with a ridiculously bad offensive line (76 sacks taken by Carr his rookie year), and while Brady would be better than Carr, he won't be the Brady we know now.

Franchise quarterbacks may be difficult to find, but one certainty exists in the above data.  Absolutely nothing indicates the only place to find a franchise quarterback is in the top couple of draft picks each year.  The misconstrued notion that teams should willingly mortgage much of their draft class to move up the draft board to draft (what they think will be) a franchise quarterback needs to stop.  If those teams put just as much emphasis on surrounding a drafted quarterback with a blueprint for success (both on and off the field) as emphasis on draft slot above all else (price to move up be damned), we'd likely see even more 2nd and 3rd round quarterbacks evolve into franchise quarterbacks.
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Diomedes on April 27, 2016, 09:49:22 AM
that's a lot of words to say, finding a QB is a crap shoot
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: smeags on April 27, 2016, 09:55:59 AM
so wait, is that story stating that wentz isn't a guaranteed future HOFer ?
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Diomedes on April 27, 2016, 10:23:53 AM
not only that, but it says that franchise QBs have been culled from draft rounds after the first

pretty groundbreaking stuff
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: smeags on April 27, 2016, 10:26:17 AM
education is cool.
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: ice grillin you on April 27, 2016, 10:37:51 AM
it actually debunks a widely held belief amongst a lot of personnel people including the eagles own guy that you have to move up high for a qb
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: smeags on April 27, 2016, 10:41:16 AM
(http://www.dailyhaha.com/_pics/o_rly_bush.jpg)
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on April 27, 2016, 10:41:20 AM
Yep  - I agree with that.
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: ice grillin you on April 27, 2016, 12:49:35 PM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ChEDquTUoAAlkyn.jpg:large)
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: phattymatty on April 27, 2016, 01:07:52 PM
just shows that tebow and vince young are the best QBs of the last 10 years. no duh.
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: ice grillin you on April 27, 2016, 01:19:40 PM
short 15 minute pff pod on wentz if anyone is interested

http://pffpodcast.podbean.com/e/pff-short-carson-wentz/?token=8beda17af9221ee4dd043b8e04868272
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on April 28, 2016, 02:40:43 PM
I've yet to hear any pundit on radio or tv say they prefer Goff over Wentz

So guaranteed bust?

I've come to reluctant acceptance. Still not happy with the trade but let's hope like hell the Howie-Doug brain trust got it right.

It's going to suck watching guys go off the board in the 2nd and 3rd that would've helped.
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Eagles_Legendz on April 28, 2016, 02:54:55 PM
A week ago ESPN had 13 scouts/execs write up who they liked better and 9 said Goff.
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: rjs246 on April 28, 2016, 02:56:27 PM
I actually like Wentz's odds of being a star more after hearing that.
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: smeags on April 28, 2016, 03:00:13 PM
all in
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on April 28, 2016, 03:32:04 PM
Quote from: Eagles_Legendz on April 28, 2016, 02:54:55 PM
A week ago ESPN had 13 scouts/execs write up who they liked better and 9 said Goff.

Interesting. I've been listening to Sirius and watching NFL and ESPN and it's been all Wentz. Mayock practically wants to get in bed with him
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Butchers Bill on April 28, 2016, 03:36:03 PM
The Wentz suck fest continues...

http://mmqb.si.com/mmqb/2016/04/26/nfl-draft-carson-wentz-north-dakota-state-pro-ready

It's actually a decent article about the kid, but I recall seeing these types of things about a lot of former first round QB's.
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: SD on April 28, 2016, 04:11:14 PM
Chris Steuber was on Breakfast on Broad this morning, he was really hyping up Goff. The last QB he hyped was Colt Brennan.
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on April 28, 2016, 04:17:05 PM
I'm happy to be on the side that Capt Steubing isn't.

How he's still relevant is a mystery
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Rome on April 28, 2016, 08:16:46 PM
LET'S fargING DO THIS!
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Munson on April 28, 2016, 08:18:38 PM
Time for the Broncos to jump up for one thousand draft picks!
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: General_Failure on April 28, 2016, 08:24:50 PM
Booooo!
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Eagles_Legendz on April 28, 2016, 08:30:00 PM
Here's hoping
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: General_Failure on April 28, 2016, 08:33:19 PM
So what'll be the thing that gets him out of the NFL in three years? Religion? Closet pyromaniac? Buying used panties on ebay? Cousin fargin'?
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: QB Eagles on April 28, 2016, 08:34:44 PM
Quote from: General_Failure on April 28, 2016, 08:33:19 PM
So what'll be the thing that gets him out of the NFL in three years? Religion? Closet pyromaniac? Buying used panties on ebay? Cousin fargin'?

being bad at football, probably
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Diomedes on April 28, 2016, 11:05:36 PM
Instead of devoting my attention to this dog and pony show, I finished caulking, and painted the ceiling in the bathroom I'm renovating.

Errands.
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Rome on April 29, 2016, 06:06:22 AM
Dio chose cauk over football. 

Least surprising news ever?
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: ice grillin you on April 29, 2016, 01:37:17 PM
http://www.phillymag.com/birds247/2016/04/29/carson-wentz-philadelphia-eagles-grade-nfl-draft/
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: MDS on April 29, 2016, 03:16:20 PM
https://www.facebook.com/DonBellSports/videos/1779910892244252/

welcome to philadelphia, now create a scene and sign an autograph for louie guadwopguido
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Sgt PSN on April 29, 2016, 04:00:19 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on April 29, 2016, 01:37:17 PM
http://www.phillymag.com/birds247/2016/04/29/carson-wentz-philadelphia-eagles-grade-nfl-draft/

QuoteSports Illustrated's Doug Farrar gives Philadelphia an 'A' for the pick.

Don't debit Wentz because he played in the Missouri Valley Football Conference—he's more NFL-ready than you may think. He has great mobility, the size to run QB power like Cam Newton and a full read palette that belies his small-school history. The Eagles got the second quarterback in this draft class, but in the end, they may well have selected the better one overall. Think Ben Roethlisberger as a long-term comparison.

Hopefully the same success but without all the rape.
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on April 29, 2016, 04:06:35 PM
Quote from: MDS on April 29, 2016, 03:16:20 PM
https://www.facebook.com/DonBellSports/videos/1779910892244252/

welcome to philadelphia, now create a scene and sign an autograph for louie guadwopguido

Adult autograph seekers who wait and stalk athletes are the worst
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: MDS on April 29, 2016, 04:27:39 PM
Quote from: Sgt PSN on April 29, 2016, 04:00:19 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on April 29, 2016, 01:37:17 PM
http://www.phillymag.com/birds247/2016/04/29/carson-wentz-philadelphia-eagles-grade-nfl-draft/

QuoteSports Illustrated's Doug Farrar gives Philadelphia an 'A' for the pick.

Don't debit Wentz because he played in the Missouri Valley Football Conference—he's more NFL-ready than you may think. He has great mobility, the size to run QB power like Cam Newton and a full read palette that belies his small-school history. The Eagles got the second quarterback in this draft class, but in the end, they may well have selected the better one overall. Think Ben Roethlisberger as a long-term comparison.

Hopefully the same success but without all the rape.

rape is ok in exchange for super bowls
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: ice grillin you on April 29, 2016, 04:42:41 PM
Quote from: MDS on April 29, 2016, 03:16:20 PM
https://www.facebook.com/DonBellSports/videos/1779910892244252/

welcome to philadelphia, now create a scene and sign an autograph for louie guadwopguido

you would think he wouldn't have to take a perp walk thru the airport like joe citizen

anyway you aint laramie or wherever the hell you are from anymore cdub
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: ice grillin you on April 29, 2016, 05:21:13 PM
intro in ten minutes.....you can watch it live on csnphilly and probably the eagle website as well
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: ice grillin you on April 29, 2016, 05:23:01 PM
Toyota has ad's on the csn website that say "we don't back out of our two year deals"
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: ice grillin you on April 29, 2016, 06:02:43 PM
nothing noteworthy...seems like a fine kid...

kudos for rockin a tie with a kelly green stripe on it

cant give a presser with gum in your mouth tho...this isnt mayberry usa
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Don Ho on April 29, 2016, 07:31:27 PM
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on April 29, 2016, 04:06:35 PM
Quote from: MDS on April 29, 2016, 03:16:20 PM
https://www.facebook.com/DonBellSports/videos/1779910892244252/

welcome to philadelphia, now create a scene and sign an autograph for louie guadwopguido

Adult autograph seekers who wait and stalk athletes are the worst

I still run into people who ask me if I am going to the Pro Bowl to get autographs every year it's here.  I look at them with a deep stare that says I'd like to strangle them and try to kindly remind them that I am about 100 years old and I have moved on thank you. I used to take my son when he was 4, 5, 6 years old when my compnay had on field practice passes (which is how I actually got to meet Spadaro) back in 2001.  That was fun as the joy and excitement it brought to my son being up close and personal to the players he worshiped was priceless.  My son is now 19 and could give a shtein if Cam Newton or Richard Sherman asked him "hey, want my autograph?"  Seeing the 45 year old kooks with their duffle bags full of team helmets and mini footballs foaming at the mouth was sickening.  Even worse when they'd try and get kids to go get them autographs.
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: ice grillin you on April 29, 2016, 11:48:08 PM
for all I know this happens all the time but it seems really weird to me...

http://www.philly.com/philly/columnists/les_bowen/377658181.html
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: MDS on April 30, 2016, 12:05:20 AM
as long as hes not doing commercials with his mom im fine with it
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: ice grillin you on April 30, 2016, 12:12:23 AM
if he was 18 or 19 years old like an nba player I get it...or if him and his bro were gonna come together....or if his brother was 32

but hes 23 and his 26 year old brother AND wife are giving up valid careers to come and be his personal assistants??
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: QB Eagles on April 30, 2016, 12:12:47 AM
QuoteZach doesn't plan to seek a teaching or coaching job here, he'll just look out for his brother, who will get a four-year contract worth more than $26 million, under the terms of the collective bargaining agreement. That will allow him to buy a real bed, and maybe one for his dog, Henley, as well.

"We grew up in Bismarck. I like my job, I like what I do there. But anybody in their right mind would pack up and do this for a sibling, no doubt," Zach Wentz said.

"I sure do love working at my job every day in North Dakota. But the least I can do for my little brother is quit working, move to a real metropolitan area, and sponge off him for the next few years."
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on April 30, 2016, 12:20:50 AM
Moving to the big city is scary, man
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: MDS on April 30, 2016, 12:21:46 AM
Quote from: ice grillin you on April 30, 2016, 12:12:23 AM
if he was 18 or 19 years old like an nba player I get it...or if him and his bro were gonna come together....or if his brother was 32

but hes 23 and his 26 year old brother AND wife are giving up valid careers to come and be his personal assistants??

hes a yokel from a town where they think jews have horns and all black people are criminals....hes moving to a different planet. cant blame him for having some kind of support system or someone he knows.

its like when the phillies sign a cuban and he brings his brother or a boy or two to just have a semblance of normalcy when hes at home. i dont blame him. if theyre still there in 6 years, thats a different story. of course wentz will be back in north dakota coaching high school then, so...
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: ice grillin you on April 30, 2016, 12:32:38 AM
like I said it might be a totally normal thing....did roflburger bring his peoples from ohio...or jerry rice to san fran...I just don't know
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on April 30, 2016, 12:54:42 AM
I've heard of players bringing family with them to new places - keeping a tight inner circle
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: ice grillin you on April 30, 2016, 01:18:45 AM
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on April 30, 2016, 12:54:42 AM
I've heard of players bringing family with them to new places

heard from who?

who are these players....not saying you are wrong...im sure there one example ever

but im genuinely interested in old rookies who arent going to play their first year uprooting a siblings family to move with them

I think I may have heard of a parent or two doing it for a teenager but not a four year 23 year old
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on April 30, 2016, 02:09:56 AM
Man I'd have to do some searching but it's been mentioned before in articles about how so and so's mother or brother moved with them or a cousin. Their job titles are usually personal assistant or business manager. I'm surprised it's not something you recall since you read a lot

Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Diomedes on April 30, 2016, 06:15:47 AM
he talks a lot...don't confuse that for reading a lot
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: hbionic on April 30, 2016, 07:41:34 AM
Quote from: Diomedes on April 30, 2016, 06:15:47 AM
he talks a lot...don't confuse that for reading a lot

Lmao  :-D
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Rome on April 30, 2016, 09:24:02 AM
Quote from: Diomedes on April 30, 2016, 06:15:47 AM
he talks a lot...don't confuse that for reading a lot

Ha
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: MDS on April 30, 2016, 11:16:24 AM
lot to digest here

https://www.facebook.com/philadelphiaeagles/videos/1071380916233014/

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ChTJqk8UoAAsKOy.jpg)
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: General_Failure on April 30, 2016, 11:18:10 AM
Could he at least try not to look like a used car salesman? Jesus.
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: QB Eagles on April 30, 2016, 11:21:42 AM
Did you guys see the phone call? shtein is awkward. We can't be far off from a high draft pick telling teams, "hey if you select me can you just send a text and let me celebrate with my family?"

http://www.philadelphiaeagles.com/videos/videos/The-Phone-Call-How-Wentz-Becomes-An-Eagle/f2f90def-c01e-45d7-bf3c-3e12565bc7b4
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: MDS on April 30, 2016, 11:29:51 AM
Quote from: QB Eagles on April 30, 2016, 11:21:42 AM
Did you guys see the phone call?

Quote from: MDS on April 30, 2016, 11:16:24 AMhttps://www.facebook.com/philadelphiaeagles/videos/1071380916233014/

i did
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: ice grillin you on April 30, 2016, 11:47:18 AM
look at farging pederson in that picture....jesus is he a human train wreck

Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Rome on April 30, 2016, 01:32:10 PM
I know they're taught how to conduct themselves in interviews now but he seems like a good kid. 

Culture.
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: SD on April 30, 2016, 01:35:26 PM
Quote from: MDS on April 30, 2016, 11:16:24 AM
lot to digest here

A Jew, a ginger, a billionaire, and a pedophile
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: SD on April 30, 2016, 01:41:14 PM
Quote from: QB Eagles on April 30, 2016, 11:21:42 AM

http://www.philadelphiaeagles.com/videos/videos/The-Phone-Call-How-Wentz-Becomes-An-Eagle/f2f90def-c01e-45d7-bf3c-3e12565bc7b4

The best part of that interview is the very end when Duce walks in with a pimp Kelly green Eagles jacket
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Rome on April 30, 2016, 01:55:02 PM
Quote from: SD on April 30, 2016, 01:35:26 PM
Quote from: MDS on April 30, 2016, 11:16:24 AM
lot to digest here

A Jew, a ginger, a billionaire, and a pedophile

Walk into a bar... the bartender says...
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on April 30, 2016, 01:55:14 PM
Quote from: General_Failure on April 30, 2016, 11:18:10 AM
Could he at least try not to look like a used car salesman? Jesus.

He will cut you a good deal on that primo 93 Aerostar over there. $1500 takes it.
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: QB Eagles on April 30, 2016, 01:57:50 PM
Pederson looks like he's always buzzed. Maybe 30 years of getting hit in the head has the same effect.
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Eagaholic on April 30, 2016, 02:10:39 PM
Quote from: Rome on April 30, 2016, 01:55:02 PM
Quote from: SD on April 30, 2016, 01:35:26 PM
Quote from: MDS on April 30, 2016, 11:16:24 AM
lot to digest here

A Jew, a ginger, a billionaire, and a pedophile

Walk into a bar... the bartender says...
... "what is this, some kind of joke?"
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: JackStraw on April 30, 2016, 05:47:03 PM
Quote from: Rome on April 30, 2016, 01:55:02 PM
Quote from: SD on April 30, 2016, 01:35:26 PM
Quote from: MDS on April 30, 2016, 11:16:24 AM
lot to digest here

A Jew, a ginger, a billionaire, and a pedophile

Walk into a bar... the bartender says...

"well, lookit that. its the culture club reunion tour"

#1: "nevermind that wiseguy, is kelly's tab still open?"
#2: "golly, I never was in a bar where everybody didn't know my name"
#3: "ice-water for the house"
#4: "triple-scotch and a Shirley Temple in a go-cup for my new buddy out in the car"
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: ice grillin you on April 30, 2016, 05:50:12 PM
J straw!
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: ice grillin you on April 30, 2016, 07:43:57 PM
Philadelphia Eagles: Carson Wentz, QB, North Dakota State  B- Grade   

As with the Rams' grade, I'm going to have to penalize Philadelphia for its trade. I gave the Eagles a Millen on my NFL Draft Trade Grades page, as they surrendered way too much. Even if Wentz hits, Philadelphia will struggle to maintain success because of a lack of resources. Think about what happened to the Falcons in the wake of the Julio Jones deal. Matt Ryan is a solid quarterback, and Jones obviously panned out, but Atlanta hasn't visited the playoffs in a while because of a severe lack of depth. Unless Wentz is the next Andrew Luck and can single-handedly carry the Eagles as Luck does with the Colts in a soft division, Philadelphia will have trouble consistently reaching the postseason for quite a while.

Having said that, I think Wentz is the better option, so the Eagles will be given a full letter grade higher than the Rams. Wentz is seen as the superior signal-caller by most of our NFL contacts, and it's easy to understand why. While the rail-thin Jared Goff played in a goofy spread system and maintained a losing record in college, Wentz won and was more accurate in a pro system, and he doesn't look like he'll snap in half at any second.

While it would probably be better for the Eagles to wait a year or two to land a franchise quarterback - again, check the 2017 NFL Mock Draft for what appear to be two top-five signal-callers next April - it seems like Wentz is the better option of the two available in this class.
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on April 30, 2016, 07:44:55 PM
Who wrote that
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: MDS on April 30, 2016, 08:13:41 PM
probably some dork who if you pull up his breakdowns from 5 years ago will be wrong about everything
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: ice grillin you on April 30, 2016, 08:15:24 PM
Quote from: MDS on April 30, 2016, 08:13:41 PM
probably some dork who if you pull up his breakdowns from 5 years ago will be wrong about everything

he gave it a B-

does that hurt your feelings....or you trying to get that crown from J
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: MDS on April 30, 2016, 08:19:27 PM
i didnt even see the grade....but his shtein is just weak

the falcons havent missed the playoffs because of the julio jones trade. in fact it was almost worth it because they were a play from the super bowl a few years ago. they lost some picks, but drafted poorly with the ones they had and had a terrible head coach. their qb regressed. the colts part is nonsense. their gm is the worst in football.

the eagles wont have trouble reaching the playoffs because of this 1 trade. theres 1000 other things going against them, namely their doofus head coach.

hes a draft wonk whose entire existence is surrounded around the draft so of course hes going to act like its the be all end all
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: ice grillin you on April 30, 2016, 08:23:08 PM
sure the falcons were...they were gutted from getting talent at important positions (ie OL) because of all the picks...but even if you don't think so giving up a million picks for csrson wentz is pretty suspect

same as wash....almost always does the team giving up all the picks lose in trades like this....if wentz or goff were considered that good two teams wouldn't have given them up

and even with all that they got a B-....be happy
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: MDS on April 30, 2016, 08:31:19 PM
i got c's growing up so a b- is cool

cept the teacher is a dork and i have no idea what back channel of the internet you pulled that nonsense from
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on April 30, 2016, 08:52:36 PM
Quote from: MDS on April 30, 2016, 08:31:19 PM
i got c's growing up so a b- is cool

cept the teacher is a dork and i have no idea what back channel of the internet you pulled that nonsense from

Extremeskins draft guide prob
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Don Ho on April 30, 2016, 10:24:13 PM
Quote from: MDS on April 30, 2016, 08:31:19 PM
i got c's growing up so a b- is cool

LMFAO!!
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: SD on May 01, 2016, 02:27:35 PM
Quote"Yeah, I've seen him play a little bit. Obviously I know he was a top pick and everything, not too many years ago, and obviously I know he was with the Rams and everything, and now here. But you know, I haven't watched a ton of film on him. I watched a lot of film on guys like Brady and Manning and Rodgers, those types of things. So I don't know as much as some of the other guys."
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: General_Failure on May 01, 2016, 02:51:10 PM
I can't wait to see him and Pederson do Waiting for Godot.
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: SD on May 01, 2016, 08:18:30 PM
(http://pbs.twimg.com/media/ChTJUmTXEAIP0lB.jpg)
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: hbionic on May 01, 2016, 08:26:43 PM
Is that Big Brother?
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: General_Failure on May 01, 2016, 08:30:22 PM
No, that's a guy who always has roofies ready to go.
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: MDS on May 01, 2016, 08:42:07 PM
towel going directly down his dick
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Don Ho on May 01, 2016, 09:40:30 PM
L O S E R 
http://www.philly.com/philly/sports/eagles/And-Eagles-fans-are-already-booing-Carson-Wentz.html (http://www.philly.com/philly/sports/eagles/And-Eagles-fans-are-already-booing-Carson-Wentz.html)
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: ice grillin you on May 05, 2016, 08:13:32 PM
I agree....I have never seen a single throw by him that I would consider overly impressive and nothing about him even whispers nfl qb

also something that I've heard a lot of people talk a about as being a plus attribute...his arm strength....doesn't appear to me to be anything but average
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Rome on May 05, 2016, 08:22:55 PM
(https://scontent.ftpa1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/13179439_1074433765927729_4559290125329949282_n.jpg?oh=42290ddb3ebbd7fb2e4a4ebb06055f96&oe=57B50E51)

These dudes approve of your usual astute analysis especially the guy who ate eggs from The Replacements.
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on May 05, 2016, 08:49:15 PM
Is Howie blind? Purple shirt and green tie eh?
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Munson on May 05, 2016, 08:54:45 PM
I didn't realize we hired fat Jon Hamm to be the Head Coach.
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: General_Failure on May 05, 2016, 08:55:25 PM
His jaw is so narrow and his face is so wide!
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Rome on May 05, 2016, 08:58:09 PM
I just noticed Howie was wearing a Kelly green tie and his dopey boss was wearing that hideous puke green johnson.

Sell the team you New England windmill loving liberal pansy pos.
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: SD on May 05, 2016, 09:02:30 PM
Quote from: Rome on May 05, 2016, 08:58:09 PM
I just noticed Howie was wearing a Kelly green tie and his dopey boss was wearing that hideous puke green johnson.

Sell the team you New England windmill loving liberal pansy pos.

Damn straight

That's Duce in a kelly green throwback jacket behind Pederson.

Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Rome on May 05, 2016, 09:08:59 PM
Duce never played in the kelly green yet even he knows where it's at.

Seriously, I can take pretty much every disappointment this team can dish out year after year.  I can take the personnel farg-ups, the choke jobs, the hideous coaching hires, the 10 dollar beers in the stadium and I can even take an owner that cares more about recycling and making sure people don't hang signs in his precious stadium (that I helped pay for directly, btw) but I can't take him refusing to give us our colors back. 

farg.  That.  Guy.
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on May 05, 2016, 09:13:56 PM
Romeys been on a cinco de mayo binge!
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: phattymatty on May 05, 2016, 09:31:21 PM
that dude hiding behind dougie is definitely not wearing kelly green. way closer to midnight.
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Rome on May 05, 2016, 09:32:02 PM
I wish.  I had a nap earlier, though, plus a righteous chicken & steak burrito from Chipotle!

And a nice poop after.

Poop.
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: hbionic on May 05, 2016, 09:46:43 PM
farg Chipotle...their food gives me the runs guaranteed.
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Rome on May 05, 2016, 09:55:45 PM
Irony?
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: ice grillin you on May 07, 2016, 09:06:11 AM
good job by zach but i have a feeling that by the time this all plays itself out the state of north dakota is going to farging despise the city of philadelphia

http://www.philly.com/philly/sports/North_Dakota_is_happy_to_share_Carson_Wentz.html
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: rjs246 on May 12, 2016, 04:10:08 PM
Signed. All picks are under contract now.
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: smeags on May 12, 2016, 04:21:31 PM
 :yay
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: ice grillin you on May 13, 2016, 02:13:42 AM
guess who was the last pick where this mattered
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: SD on May 13, 2016, 07:05:41 PM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CiRiqafWsAAEAVd.jpg:large)
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Rome on May 13, 2016, 07:11:57 PM
lol
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Sgt PSN on May 13, 2016, 08:16:50 PM
Haha
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Diomedes on May 13, 2016, 09:38:14 PM
poor bastich had better get used to shtein like this
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: ice grillin you on May 22, 2016, 11:17:13 AM
QuoteCARSON WENTZ, North Dakota State (6-5, 237, 4.69, 1): "Prototypical," one scout said. "I see everything. Arm strength. Accuracy. Toughness. Athletic ability. Smart. Great kid." "He's a genius, Wentz is," said another scout with knowledge of Wentz's 40 on the Wonderlic. "He could be really good. He's the best runner, he's the best athlete. He is off the charts." Fifth-year senior from Bismarck, N.D., who didn't start a game until his fourth year. Finished with passer rating of 105.3. "He gets away with things in that league (Missouri Valley) that he wouldn't get away with in the SEC," a third scout said. "He tries to throw in tight windows. Even in the (FCS) title game he threw two picks. The guy he reminds me of is (Blake) Bortles. Everybody was so excited about Bortles because of the height and the athletic ability, and this guy has the same thing. At least Bortles played against big-time competition. At this point I just don't see where he's that accurate of a passer." Compared by that same scout to Ben Roethlisberger. "He's big, athletic and has a freaking cannon," a fourth scout said. "Level of competition is the only thing. I'd sit him for a year and a half, two years. Then I got a real starter. He'll be shoved into the fire too quickly and it may crush him."
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Diomedes on May 22, 2016, 11:27:15 AM
h8r gotta h8
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: ice grillin you on May 22, 2016, 11:28:22 AM
seems fairly positive to me
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Diomedes on May 22, 2016, 11:34:17 AM
Yeah, the parts  about throwing picks in a showcase game, about not being accurate enough, about forcing passes that work only because he's not playing in the SEC...quite positive stuff there.

It's all good, just making the point that if Phreak or for that matter anyone else, posted a favorable blurb instead, you'd be dropping homer this homer that.
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: ice grillin you on May 22, 2016, 12:21:49 PM
does this make you feel better you big baby....

QuoteEvery year prior to the draft, Bob McGinn of the Wisconsin Journal Sentinel does a series on draft prospects and what anonymous scouts are saying about them. Without fail, it is always one of the best reads of the calendar year.

The guys over at BGN had the good idea of going back and seeing what McGinn heard about the Eagles' draft picks prior to the draft.

Here's what those anonymous scouts said about quarterback Carson Wentz, from McGinn's quarterback piece:

CARSON WENTZ, North Dakota State (6-5, 237, 4.69, 1): "Prototypical," one scout said. "I see everything. Arm strength. Accuracy. Toughness. Athletic ability. Smart. Great kid." "He's a genius, Wentz is," said another scout with knowledge of Wentz's 40 on the Wonderlic. "He could be really good. He's the best runner, he's the best athlete. He is off the charts." Fifth-year senior from Bismarck, N.D., who didn't start a game until his fourth year. Finished with passer rating of 105.3. "He gets away with things in that league (Missouri Valley) that he wouldn't get away with in the SEC," a third scout said. "He tries to throw in tight windows. Even in the (FCS) title game he threw two picks. The guy he reminds me of is (Blake) Bortles. Everybody was so excited about Bortles because of the height and the athletic ability, and this guy has the same thing. At least Bortles played against big-time competition. At this point I just don't see where he's that accurate of a passer." Compared by that same scout to Ben Roethlisberger. "He's big, athletic and has a freaking cannon," a fourth scout said. "Level of competition is the only thing. I'd sit him for a year and a half, two years. Then I got a real starter. He'll be shoved into the fire too quickly and it may crush him."

If you've read McGinn's anonymous scouting pieces in the past, you'll know that the above is about as effusive as praise gets. The scouts in his pieces are typically beyond brutal, and pull no punches when they offer their opinions of players' flaws, especially quarterbacks. They're like mean high school girls.

For example, here are some of the things they said about the other quarterbacks who were listed in the top five:

• Jared Goff, Cal, drafted first overall by the Rams: "I just don't see him having that winner quality about him," a third scout said. "His arm isn't great. They do a lot of that dink and dunk offense, a lot of that false production. He gets rattled by pressure. Everything has kind of got to be under control for him. He couldn't win there and you want him to be the face of your franchise?"

• Paxton Lynch, Memphis, drafted 26th overall by the Broncos: "The overall maturity level and disposition, I'd be a bit concerned. Big kid, strong arm. But he's a ways away mentally."

• Connor Cook, Michigan State, drafted in the fourth round by the Raiders: "He stinks," a third scout said. "Wildly inaccurate (57.5% career). Average arm, average mobility, average field vision. Not a leader. Not aware. Someone will take him in the second, third or fourth round and he's going to disappoint. The owner needs to fire the GM right after they pick him if someone takes him in the first."


• Christian Hackenberg, Penn State, drafted in the second round by the Jets: "People can make every excuse in the book for him but he just hasn't done it," another scout said. "He was a Bill O'Brien guy and he had some issues with Franklin. He hangs out more with managers than he does teammates. It tells me he likes to be king of the little people rather than king of the big people."

And here's what some scouts said about Jameis Winston, who was drafted first overall a year ago:

"Jameis has gotten too big," said a third scout. "In high school (Bessemer, Ala.) he was a quick-twitch athlete. Now he's kind of sluggish." Posted dismal workout numbers at the combine. "I had no idea he'd run that poorly," a fourth scout said. "Quarterbacks without leg explosiveness have a terrible history. I don't like his off-field and I don't like the way he conducts himself on the field sometimes."

So what's the point here?

The point is that there isn't much to dislike about Carson Wentz. He's big, he has a strong arm, he's mobile, he's smart, he has a quick release, and he's competitive. If you're going to nitpick, you can maybe ding him a little for his accuracy, which is still good by the way, and the fact that he played at a lower level in college.

Even NFL scouts, who are some of the cattiest humans on the planet, couldn't find much in the way of criticism of Wentz.
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Rome on May 22, 2016, 03:32:13 PM
I had to chuckle about Bortles playing against "big time" competition at UCF.   Nothing says big time quite like Tulsa, Navy & Memphis.
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: QB Eagles on May 22, 2016, 04:04:06 PM
I liked this bit about Hackenberg: "He hangs out more with managers than he does teammates. It tells me he likes to be king of the little people rather than king of the big people." Someone got paid to write that horseshtein?
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on May 22, 2016, 04:58:18 PM
Maybe the same dude who beefed about Cam smiling or whatever it was. Nolan Nawrocki I think was his name
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: smeags on May 23, 2016, 12:20:18 PM
or maybe a little local jewish writer that cant crack high school baseball coverage ?
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: phattymatty on May 23, 2016, 11:43:37 PM
🐓
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: ice grillin you on June 08, 2016, 02:11:39 PM
so doug pederson said wentz's ball wobbles a lot but it can be fixed

so if I understand correctly the eagles just mortgaged their future on a qb who hasn't learned how to throw a spiral yet?
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: QB Eagles on June 08, 2016, 03:24:57 PM
They also just hired a coach who hasn't learned how to bullshtein the Philly media about stuff like that yet.

This will not end well.
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: smeags on June 08, 2016, 03:30:32 PM
nothing to worry about, doug also said the time he spent here getting benched for mcnabb made him a better qb.
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Don Ho on June 09, 2016, 01:28:28 AM
Well at least this version of the shtein show will be fun.  Buffoon as head coach, QB?, Junior College WRs, no running game, Howie = FUN
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Diomedes on June 16, 2016, 07:07:22 PM
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2646582-carson-wentz-locked-inside-gas-station-bathroom-rescued-by-guys-leg-kick?utm_source=cnn.com&utm_medium=referral&utm_campaign=editorial
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: General_Failure on June 16, 2016, 07:19:16 PM
This fargin' team.
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: SD on June 16, 2016, 07:25:45 PM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ClEmLCgWAAAoXl9.jpg)
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Don Ho on June 16, 2016, 11:51:41 PM
LMFAO!
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on August 13, 2016, 03:26:54 PM
Hairline fracture of the ribs

Hopeful to have him back by the end of the preseason

Looool jeez
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: General_Failure on August 13, 2016, 03:43:35 PM
Season's over, damn.
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: MDS on August 13, 2016, 04:33:21 PM
twitter eggs durring their way trying to blame someone for this

injuries happen in sports and especially football. k.
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Don Ho on August 13, 2016, 04:58:54 PM
I blame George Bush.
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Rome on August 13, 2016, 06:12:13 PM
I just had an hour-long argument about Bush and Republicans in general. 

Now I'm drinking alone.  Hard.
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Rome on August 13, 2016, 06:13:48 PM
Oh and if you ever have a tap in eagle on 17, walk the farg off the course.  18 can suck my d!ck.
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Geowhizzer on August 13, 2016, 08:06:38 PM
Thanks, Obama.
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on August 13, 2016, 11:08:12 PM
Quote from: MDS on August 13, 2016, 04:33:21 PM
twitter eggs durring their way trying to blame someone for this

injuries happen in sports and especially football. k.

Wut

Who could possibly be blamed? It's preseason and he's got to play.
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: General_Failure on August 13, 2016, 11:44:01 PM
Damn PC Police liberal cucks and their participation trophies. He'd never get playing time on a real team.
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: MDS on August 14, 2016, 01:05:12 AM
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on August 13, 2016, 11:08:12 PM
Quote from: MDS on August 13, 2016, 04:33:21 PM
twitter eggs durring their way trying to blame someone for this

injuries happen in sports and especially football. k.

Wut

Who could possibly be blamed? It's preseason and he's got to play.

trumpers always full of excuses

"why was he playing behind a bad offense line?"

the shot he took is a shot that qbs take every god damn game.....if it was a real game and he was the starter they could fill him up on horse tranquelizer and run him out there. but its preseason and even though needs the reps, it just aint worth it
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Don Ho on August 14, 2016, 02:52:37 AM
Quote from: Rome on August 13, 2016, 06:13:48 PM
Oh and if you ever have a tap in eagle on 17, walk the farg off the course.  18 can suck my d!ck.

HA!  My life story.
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Don Ho on August 14, 2016, 03:00:03 AM
Quote from: MDS on August 14, 2016, 01:05:12 AM
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on August 13, 2016, 11:08:12 PM
Quote from: MDS on August 13, 2016, 04:33:21 PM
twitter eggs durring their way trying to blame someone for this

injuries happen in sports and especially football. k.

Wut

Who could possibly be blamed? It's preseason and he's got to play.

trumpers always full of excuses

"why was he playing behind a bad offense line?"

the shot he took is a shot that qbs take every god damn game.....if it was a real game and he was the starter they could fill him up on horse tranquelizer and run him out there. but its preseason and even though needs the reps, it just aint worth it

Totally agree.  That hit was nothing out of the ordinary.  This is what preseason is for people!  Yes, I agree that O Line will not be around in a few weeks and I feared for his life as well but every rookie QB since Methuselah has had to play exhibition games behind porous offensive lines. 
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: ice grillin you on August 15, 2016, 10:58:08 AM
there should be no preseason period....cfb doesnt have it and has a superior product
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: QB Eagles on August 15, 2016, 11:43:42 AM
Quote from: Don Ho on August 14, 2016, 03:00:03 AMYes, I agree that O Line will not be around in a few weeks

Considering the likely suspensions and injuries, I think that O Line will be around plenty during the season.
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: General_Failure on August 15, 2016, 12:27:40 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on August 15, 2016, 10:58:08 AM
there should be no preseason period....cfb doesnt have it and has a superior product

College football is like 90% games that don't mean shtein though.
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: ice grillin you on August 15, 2016, 01:31:13 PM
actually the games mean a lot more in college...its what makes it such a great sport

that separate debate aside the fact remains that theres no good reason the nfl has a preseason...we all know why it exists
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Tomahawk on August 15, 2016, 02:15:14 PM
Quote from: Don Ho on August 13, 2016, 04:58:54 PM
I blame George Bush.

(http://cdn.ebaumsworld.com/mediaFiles/picture/883100/83074112.gif)
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: MDS on September 08, 2016, 12:29:57 AM
http://deadspin.com/here-an-old-haters-gonna-say-its-fake-from-high-schoo-1786364409
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Sgt PSN on September 08, 2016, 01:15:27 AM
That's pretty much the whitest thing ever. 
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: phattymatty on September 08, 2016, 04:58:09 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_OYJPOYkLBE
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: hbionic on September 08, 2016, 05:06:24 PM
Man, those guys were good. I can see where Howie felt comfortable moving up for him.

After this video, Wentz is my new favorite person.

Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Eagles_Legendz on September 09, 2016, 11:20:53 AM
Predictions?

I'll go 27-20 Eagles.  Higher scoring than most expect.  RG3 connects on one long TD to Pryor.  Eagles get to him 5 times but otherwise Browns move the ball a little bit more than people hope.  Ryan Mathews has a big game.
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: smeags on September 09, 2016, 12:00:48 PM
im going 24-17 eagles. agree that Matthews should have a big game and take pressure of the of wentz and the defense.
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Diomedes on September 09, 2016, 12:37:05 PM
I don't know what you folks are smoking but hook me up.  Browns will win, and it won't be close.  The first game with a brand new HC, DC, a rookie QB of questionable experiences, skills, and less than one week of prep with the first team, a WR corps that couldn't win starting jobs at Notre Dame much less Alabama...yeah, not gonna beat even the Browns, I think. 

I expect any Eagles points to come off turnovers or via special teams.  I put the o/u on turnovers by Wentz at 2 and take the over.  2 INTs and 1 FUM, if you care what I'm guessing.

28-10  Browns.

Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Geowhizzer on September 09, 2016, 01:03:16 PM
Eagles stink. 

42-7 Browns.
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Sgt PSN on September 09, 2016, 01:18:41 PM
That's the spirit.

I think it's an ugly game that could really go either way, but 9 times out of 10 the team with the better HC and/or QB are going to win. If nothing else, Cleveland has better experience in both positions so I'm going with them...by 1 score.
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Munson on September 09, 2016, 01:36:44 PM
Wrong thread, nerds. Lets keep all this information in one place, please.
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: smeags on September 09, 2016, 01:51:13 PM
 :-D
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Eagles_Legendz on September 09, 2016, 01:56:16 PM
Yeah saw Carson in thread title and thought it was game thread.  Whoops.
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Diomedes on September 09, 2016, 02:13:37 PM
I am grateful for the correction, and ashamed to have been caught out. 

Suicide might be appropriate.
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: QB Eagles on September 09, 2016, 03:44:18 PM
Quote from: Diomedes on September 09, 2016, 02:13:37 PM
Suicide might be appropriate.

True for everyone still at CF after all these years. We need to all meet up for one last tailgate blowout and pass around some barbiturate shooters.
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Diomedes on September 09, 2016, 03:53:39 PM
Can real barbituates still be had?  I've heard such loving tales from the old heads.
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Geowhizzer on September 09, 2016, 06:13:15 PM
Quote from: Munson on September 09, 2016, 01:36:44 PM
Wrong thread, nerds. Lets keep all this information in one place, please.

Make it 49-7.
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on September 09, 2016, 07:29:59 PM
Quote from: QB Eagles on September 09, 2016, 03:44:18 PM
Quote from: Diomedes on September 09, 2016, 02:13:37 PM
Suicide might be appropriate.

True for everyone still at CF after all these years. We need to all meet up for one last tailgate blowout and pass around some barbiturate shooters.

Igy and mds will argue until their last breaths
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: QB Eagles on September 09, 2016, 09:25:25 PM
"lol j wore a bedwetter jersey to a ritual death, your homerism knows no bounds. couldn't get a henry josey one?"
"who picked the cowboys game for this, they aren't even a rival to real fans. the cowboys don't even know the eagles exist when they celebrate all their super bowls. top 5 forgettable mass suicide"
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on September 09, 2016, 09:41:02 PM
Loooololol

That's incredibly accurate
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on September 11, 2016, 10:11:58 PM
He got piss tested after the game per Les' DN article
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Eagaholic on September 11, 2016, 10:22:13 PM
Lol, thread of the month
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: ice grillin you on September 11, 2016, 11:17:36 PM
Sam Bradford has two career games with at least 275 yards, 2 TD, 0 INT and 100+ QB rating.

Carson Wentz just did that in his first start.
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on September 11, 2016, 11:18:23 PM
Donovan didn't do it until his 27th game
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Eagaholic on September 12, 2016, 01:07:47 AM
Foles did it in his 5th game. But he had 381 yards + run td. So Wentz better snap to it.
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: ice grillin you on September 12, 2016, 09:56:40 AM
best thing about wentz is that people are excited and a huge amount of people stayed until the very end of the game....i left with a little over two minutes to go and was on 95 in two minutes after getting in my car
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: smeags on September 12, 2016, 10:26:10 AM
I left after the game and still got on the highway in not time. people weren't leaving the parking lot right away from what I could see. grills came back out. haven't seen that in a while. thought they pushed people out of the lots as quick as possible.
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: ice grillin you on September 12, 2016, 10:34:07 AM
people always do that and there still would usually be a line to get out....yesterday there was zero line to get out of the lot and a tiny line at the light
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Eagles_Legendz on September 12, 2016, 10:37:49 AM
Traffic was nuts for me to get on 95-N after the game, so I'm envious of your experiences.
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: smeags on September 12, 2016, 10:42:11 AM
it certainly wasn't the norm, at all. although I paid for it since there was an accident right near bridge st.
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Susquehanna Birder on September 12, 2016, 11:08:39 AM
I got the grill out and ate leftovers with my crew to let the traffic clear. And it did clear...locally. Apparently the parking lot just moved a bit farther down I-95 (and up the blue route). Took me almost an hour to get to KoP.
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: smeags on September 12, 2016, 11:22:59 AM
traffic pretty much stopped at 676 on 95n. I cut over the ben franklin and shot up 130 to the Burlington/Bristol bridge. no too bad.

Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Sgt PSN on September 12, 2016, 11:44:26 AM
Quote from: Susquehanna Birder on September 12, 2016, 11:08:39 AM
I got the grill out and ate leftovers with my crew to let the traffic clear. And it did clear...locally. Apparently the parking lot just moved a bit farther down I-95 (and up the blue route). Took me almost an hour to get to KoP.

Sounds about par for the course.  If I'm driving straight back to pennsyltucky after the game I wait pretty much until I get asked to leave the lot. Still hit a little traffic going up 476 around Lansdale exit, but it clears up by Pottstown so it's not too bad. Only time I'd ever leave games early was when I'd be driving back to NC. Farging 415/430 Sunday games were the worst... leave Philly around 8pm and drive 11 hrs straight to work.  Get there at 7am, shower, throw my uniform on and then tell my boss I had recruiting appts all morning,  then I'd park behind the px and sleep for like 3 or 4 hours.
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: phattymatty on September 12, 2016, 11:51:33 AM
I had some of the worst traffic ever on 95S.
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: smeags on September 12, 2016, 12:11:12 PM
good thing the team won. rides home would've been much worse.
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: ice grillin you on September 12, 2016, 12:15:01 PM
Quote from: Eagles_Legendz on September 12, 2016, 10:37:49 AM
Traffic was nuts for me to get on 95-N after the game, so I'm envious of your experiences.

Quote from: phattymatty on September 12, 2016, 11:51:33 AM
I had some of the worst traffic ever on 95S.

when did you guys leave your seats

Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Eagles_Legendz on September 12, 2016, 12:17:15 PM
after eagles TD to make it 29-10, so inside 2 mins.
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Rome on September 12, 2016, 12:23:30 PM
I was home in 5 minutes from the bar. 

I rule. 
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Sgt PSN on September 12, 2016, 12:23:52 PM
Quote from: phattymatty on September 12, 2016, 11:51:33 AM
I had some of the worst traffic ever on 95S.

The traffic when we left the skins game in DC back in like 06 or 07 was farging brutal. Took me like 3 hrs just to get to Quantico area. Awful. Never doing that again.
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on September 12, 2016, 02:04:40 PM
8-8 for 94 yards against the blitz
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: smeags on September 12, 2016, 02:07:56 PM
(https://www.praisecharts.com/assets/Uploads/lightstock-TOP50-medium-template.jpg)
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Diomedes on September 13, 2016, 06:53:54 AM
(http://i.imgur.com/JaM1Hnj.gif)
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: ice grillin you on September 13, 2016, 07:22:37 AM
http://www.inforum.com/news/4112725-mcfeely-eagles-blue-collar-fans-expletive-love-qb-wentz?utm_content=bufferbe884&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter.com&utm_campaign=buffer
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: ice grillin you on September 13, 2016, 10:06:05 AM
"ive been a cleveland browns fan my entire life but when it comes to carson wentz hes a good christian man and im rooting for the philadelphia eagles today"

http://www.inforum.com/video/8NHyU5vt
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: MDS on September 13, 2016, 10:13:32 AM
Quote from: ice grillin you on September 13, 2016, 10:06:05 AM
"ive been a cleveland browns fan my entire life but when it comes to carson wentz hes a good christian man and im rooting for the philadelphia eagles today"

http://www.inforum.com/video/8NHyU5vt


the blonde would get it. i love her plump midwestern look

the dude anchor is dressed like hes a groomsman in a wedding

theres no way debbie van winkle is from philly. shes deep bucksco or hanging with j in pville or something

lol @ the corey dillon jersey

these people are so simple its wonderful
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on September 15, 2016, 05:58:48 PM
Jaws kiss of death in full effect

"Wentz had the greatest debut ever for a rookie QB"

Akin to his "Kaepernick the greatest ever?" shtein.

Nice knowing ya, Wentz.
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Rome on September 18, 2016, 07:42:16 PM
(https://scontent.ftpa1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/14316970_1163678037003301_3208825876846821875_n.jpg?oh=6b753509013e429dddf3fdb670498acc&oe=58707798)

If this doesn't make Havas's head explode, I don't know what will.
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: ice grillin you on September 18, 2016, 07:46:56 PM
ill take a zoot suit over a "i play for HIM" t shirt
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: MDS on September 18, 2016, 07:47:50 PM
#AO1
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Rome on September 18, 2016, 07:48:02 PM
I was talking about his wearing Bose headphones, but sure, the suit is awesome too.
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: ice grillin you on September 18, 2016, 07:49:20 PM
Quote from: Rome on September 18, 2016, 07:48:02 PM
I was talking about his wearing Bose headphones, but sure, the suit is awesome too.

odds on the song running thru them

christian rock 3-5
country 3-1
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: General_Failure on September 18, 2016, 07:53:28 PM
I'll take the long shot and say southern rock.
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: ice grillin you on September 18, 2016, 07:57:18 PM
hold on loosely is probably the right call
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Rome on September 18, 2016, 07:59:30 PM
I'm thinking Florida Georgia Line...
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: ice grillin you on September 18, 2016, 08:01:01 PM
rip worlds biggest cocktail party
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Rome on September 18, 2016, 08:03:56 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on September 18, 2016, 08:01:01 PM
rip worlds biggest cocktail party

I actually wore a T.O. Eagles jersey to that years ago.   Talk about some confused rednecks.
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on September 18, 2016, 08:09:56 PM
I was gonna say he's probably listening to some 2 Live Crew

No?
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: ice grillin you on September 18, 2016, 08:12:02 PM
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on September 18, 2016, 08:09:56 PM
I was gonna say he's probably listening to some 2 Live Crew

No?

hes def the male tipper gore
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on September 18, 2016, 08:12:57 PM
He's no cornball brotha though or a lousy jokester so...win?
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: ice grillin you on September 18, 2016, 08:14:03 PM
true....no rubber sheets on his bed
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: ice grillin you on September 19, 2016, 10:35:47 AM
http://thelab.bleacherreport.com/the-baptism-of-carson-wentz/
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Diomedes on September 19, 2016, 10:53:23 AM
What's the second pocket all about?
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: General_Failure on September 19, 2016, 11:45:15 AM
Quote"Wentz was better prepared than just about anybody we've had come through here from a football standpoint," Gruden said. "He's been in a huddle.

Well I'm sold.
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: ice grillin you on September 19, 2016, 11:47:37 AM
hes even put a helmet on
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: General_Failure on September 19, 2016, 11:48:14 AM
By himself? Daaaaaaamn.
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: ice grillin you on September 19, 2016, 11:49:48 AM
NEXT-GEN STATS: Is Carson Wentz the real deal or a one-game wonder?

That's the question every general manager and scout must consider after watching the second overall pick in the 2016 NFL Draft light it up in his debut performance despite missing most of the preseason with a rib injury. Wentz completed 22 of 37 passes for 278 yards and a pair of scores for the Eagles in their Week 1 win over the Browns. He finished the night with a 101.0 passer rating and looked like a potential star at the position.

Now, I know it's only one game, and we shouldn't give the rookie a gold jacket based on his spectacular play against a weak Browns defense, but Wentz's numbers stand up well against the debuts of other top picks in recent history. Take a look at how some recent top-five quarterbacks performed in their first career starts:

Carson Wentz (2016): won game; completed 22 of 37 passes for 278 passing yards with a 2:0 TD-to-INT ratio and a 101.0 passer rating.

Jameis Winston (2015): lost game; completed 16 of 33 passes for 210 yards with a 2:2 TD-to-INT ratio and a 64.0 passer rating.

Marcus Mariota (2015): won game; completed 13 of 15 passes for 209 yards with a 4:0 TD-to-INT ratio and a 158.3 passer rating.

Andrew Luck (2012): lost game; completed 23 of 45 passes for 309 yards with a 1:3 TD-to-INT ratio and a 52.9 passer rating.

Robert Griffin III (2012): won game; completed 19 of 26 passes for 320 yards with a 2:0 TD-to-INT ratio and a 139.9 passer rating.

Cam Newton (2011): lost game; completed 24 of 37 passes for 422 yards with a 2:1 TD-to-INT ratio and a 110.4 passer rating.

Based on the numbers, it nearly impossible to determine whether Wentz will go on to become an elite quarterback after one game, but I found it interesting that his stats were nearly identical to Cam Newton's production in his 2011 debut against the Arizona Cardinals. I've always believed Wentz's game mirrored the reigning MVP's playing style, and he could make a similar impact on the league as a big-bodied, dual-threat playmaker.


Looking back at my scouting report on Wentz prior to the draft, I viewed the 6-foot-5, 237-pounder as a big, strong-armed passer with exceptional arm talent. I thought he was not only capable of making every throw in the book with zip, velocity and precision, but he also flashed a feathery touch on deep balls along the boundary. Regarding his running ability, I loved Wentz's combination of size and speed on the perimeter. He excelled executing zone reads and designed quarterback runs, particularly down in the red zone, where "plus-1" concepts -- quarterback runs to negate the defense's numerical advantage at the point of attack -- give the offense an added dimension.

Considering Wentz's high football IQ and his mastery of complex passing concepts due to his experience directing a pro-style offense at North Dakota State, I thought he would have a solid track to success despite playing against a lower level of competition as a collegian. Now, I'll be the first to admit that I thought it would take him some time to figure it all out (the Eagles planned to give Wentz a redshirt year as a rookie while he sat behind a couple of veterans), but the rookie was thrust into the starting lineup when the team traded Sam Bradford to the Minnesota Vikings for a couple of top picks.

I've been around the NFL long enough to know that plans quickly change, and most top-five draft picks, particularly quarterbacks, crack the starting lineup at some point during their rookie seasons. But I didn't expect to see Wentz stepping onto the field with the "ones" in Week 1 after sitting out the majority of the preseason with an injury. Despite showing impressive flashes in limited action, Wentz hadn't played enough preseason snaps to get a full grasp of his readiness, and I wondered how Eagles coach Doug Pederson would craft a game plan around the rookie to help him succeed in the season opener. In my experience, most coaches opt for a conservative approach when breaking in a rookie starter. Teams will feature quick throws and simple isolation or combination patterns to make it easy for the quarterback to find an open receiver against any coverage. Coaches will also script a series of plays around the strengths of their young passer to make sure that he quickly finds his comfort zone on the field.


Against the Browns, the Eagles crafted a beautiful game plan that highlighted Wentz's strengths as a downfield passer. From seams and go-routes along the hashes or sidelines to sail routes (deep speed outs) and deep overs (deep crossing routes), the Eagles featured a number of vertical routes that allowed the rookie to push the ball down the field off play-action or on the move. To my surprise, the high-risk, high-reward approach better suited the rookie's talents. According to Next Gen stats, Wentz completed 9 of 11 passes (81.8 percent) that traveled 10 or more yards in the air, with 15.6 yards per attempt and a perfect 158.3 passer rating on those passes. (He connected on 13 of 26 passes that traveled 10 yards in the air or less, with 3.8 yards per attempt and a 60.7 passer rating on those throws.)

That's ridiculous production from any quarterback, particularly a rookie making his first start after limited preseason work. As I studied the All-22 Coaches Film, I was blown away by Wentz's touch, timing and accuracy on his deep throws. He dropped the ball over the receiver's outside shoulder on most throws, which allowed them to keep the defender on their hip while securing the catch.

Let's take a closer look at video of Wentz's first touchdown pass on Sunday. The Eagles are aligned in an empty formation, with Jordan Matthews in the slot. The team is running a smash-seams concept, with the outside guys instructed to run hitches and the slot receivers running fade routes from their inside position. Against man coverage, the inside fade gives the quarterback a bigger box to target in the front corner of the end zone. This definitely makes the throw easier, but Wentz's superb ball placement made it nearly impossible for the Browns to defend the play:


Later in the game, the Eagles dialed it up on a fade route to Nelson Agholor down the boundary, as you can see in the video below. The second-year pro must escape press coverage at the line, but he can't get pushed too far to the sideline, because it shrinks the target area for the quarterback. Agholor quickly whips Pro Bowler Joe Haden at the line and fights to "stack" (receiver works to get directly in front of the defensive back while running down the field) the veteran corner as he heads down the field. Wentz throws a teardrop over the young pass catcher's outside shoulder for a score:


Wentz's debut performance has created a buzz in the scouting community. Evaluators wonder if the young passer can build upon his strong performance to energize an Eagles offense that is more systematic than star-driven. After looking at the numbers and the All-22 Coaches Film, I not only believe he will continue to shine as a deep ball passer, but his accuracy and efficiency will improve on the quick-rhythm throws that are the foundation of the Eagles' passing game. If he quickly masters the "catch-and-fire" throws in the game plan, the Eagles might've landed a budding superstar at the top of the draft.
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Sgt PSN on September 19, 2016, 11:33:27 PM
Guess playing on the road in prime time doesn't really faze him either. Impressive again.
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Susquehanna Birder on September 20, 2016, 08:44:46 AM
Word has come down from the league that Wentz is the first rookie since the 1970 merger to win his first two games without throwing a pick.

I saw a FB post somewhere that he is the only NFL QB ever to start his first two games with a win, at least one TD pass in each game, and no interceptions. Not completely sure about this stat...but it sounds nice anyway.
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: QB Eagles on September 20, 2016, 09:01:48 AM
Quote from: Susquehanna Birder on September 20, 2016, 08:44:46 AM
Word has come down from the league that Wentz is the first rookie since the 1970 merger to win his first two games without throwing a pick.

Stat only holds if it's the first two games of a season.
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: ice grillin you on September 20, 2016, 09:05:31 AM
if you include enough variables in a stat you can make anything come true

it's a meaningless stat cause rookies didn't start back in the day very often....it would carry weight if 20 years from now he was still the only one to do it
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: General_Failure on September 20, 2016, 09:12:05 AM
20 years from now the rules will have continued to be altered to favor the offense so much that any interception will be considered a miracle performed by the defensive player.
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Rome on September 20, 2016, 09:44:50 AM
Wentz has played decently.  He hasn't played like farging Joe Montana in his prime.  I'm all in with the guy but the hype has just been stupid.  It's a good story, though, and the NFL could use them these days what with the protests and brain damages, rapes, domestic violence and drug suspensions dominating the media's attention. 
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: smeags on September 20, 2016, 09:48:08 AM
to me this is still a 6-10 team. yeah it's nice to see this kid play at the level he is right now, but it's two games against crap teams.
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Rome on September 20, 2016, 09:50:11 AM
I still think 8-8 is reasonable.  The defense has played better than I thought.  Wentz is going to get pummeled at some point soon, though. 
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: smeags on September 20, 2016, 10:02:27 AM
it certainly is reasonable because this division is still up for grabs. I could see the eagles going 4-2 in the division which would make total 8 wins within reason.

wentz needs to practice diving/sliding all damn week.
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: ice grillin you on September 20, 2016, 10:05:13 AM
Quote from: Rome on September 20, 2016, 09:44:50 AM
Wentz has played decently. 

id argue hes played much better than decently...forget any other drops just give him the matthews touchdown last night and his numbers become stellar....hes scored on almost half his drives granted helped by amazing field position thus far but i dont know what else he could  have done thus far

except for one thing and thats 3rd down efficiency....i dont know the exact numbers from last night but they were awful...hasnt hurt them yet because of the opponents but that has to get better
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: ice grillin you on September 20, 2016, 10:11:40 AM
Quote from: Rome on September 20, 2016, 09:50:11 AM
Wentz is going to get pummeled at some point soon, though.

i agree.....not that lane johnson is some all pro but they might be in some trouble when hes gone

four of the next six on the road and the two home games are steelers and vikes....going to find out a lot after that stretch
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: QB Eagles on September 20, 2016, 10:20:49 AM
He's basically never thrown an ugly pass or something that looked like a bad decision. Sometimes I wish there was a little more zip on the ball, but the WRs are having a tough time holding on to the floaters dropped right in their bread baskets, so maybe more zip would be a bad idea. I anticipate that he will learn how to avoid some of those hits, hopefully before he gets injured. Of course I want to see how he does against better opponents and whether he can keep the momentum going once teams start seeing more of him on film, but what we've seen until now is as consistently solid as any other QB in the NFL.

So I think the hype is justified based on what we've seen so far. I won't say the same about Pederson, because 1) without Wentz it's very possible that this team would have looked like a sack of shtein in these games -- a lot of the team still does look kinda zesty to me, to be honest and 2) my opinion is that unless he proves to be completely incompetent, it takes multiple years to even begin to judge a HC. There's too many different things to judge him on to declare anything after two games against dumpster fire teams.
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: smeags on September 20, 2016, 10:26:53 AM
the real test is this sunday, we all knew that when the team announced he was starting from day 1.


Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: QB Eagles on September 20, 2016, 10:32:29 AM
Quote from: smeags on September 20, 2016, 10:26:53 AM
the real test is this sunday, we all knew that when the team announced he was starting from day 1.

I disagree with that. Starting against the Browns with minimal advance notice and preseason experience after coming out of Podunk U was a major test that most rookies (i.e. Jared Goff) would have failed. The Steelers are definitely a different type of test (though their defense is not really all that great), but Week 1 under those conditions and Week 2 on the road on a national stage are legit accomplishments.
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Sgt PSN on September 20, 2016, 10:36:51 AM
Agreed. Pittsburgh may offer the toughest test to date, but let's not minimize what he's been able to do his first 2 games.  And this game will be won or lost by the defense more so than Wentz, imo.
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: smeags on September 20, 2016, 11:13:37 AM
not saying the first two wins aren't legit, but both those teams stink and there will be those who question wentz until the team defeats a defense that isn't giving up 25+ points a game.

regardless of any of that, this kid has played very, very well to this point.
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Rome on September 20, 2016, 11:19:41 AM
He's 2-0 and he's exceeded expectations and I guess that's more than any of us can ask especially with who he's forced to play with. 
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: ice grillin you on September 20, 2016, 11:22:20 AM
Quote from: smeags on September 20, 2016, 11:13:37 AM
there will be those who question wentz until the team defeats a defense that isn't giving up 25+ points a game. 

cleveland and chicagos problem was their offenses not their defenses

pittsburghs secondary is pedestrian at best...im not saying wentz is going to light them up but its not their defense that worries me its their offense putting up 40+
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: MDS on September 20, 2016, 11:41:36 AM
Quote from: Sgt PSN on September 20, 2016, 10:36:51 AM
Agreed. Pittsburgh may offer the toughest test to date, but let's not minimize what he's been able to do his first 2 games.  And this game will be won or lost by the defense more so than Wentz, imo.

pitt is the test for the defense

wentz has been outrageous....they need more talent certainly and wont be able to get that for 1-2 years, but that hick can play
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: smeags on September 20, 2016, 11:50:19 AM
Quote from: Rome on September 20, 2016, 11:19:41 AM
He's 2-0 and he's exceeded expectations and I guess that's more than any of us can ask especially with who he's forced to play with. 

he's definitely exceeded all expectations. the talent you can see, it's there, but beyond that, the kid seems to have the "it" factor. his command and poise is impressive. I doubt he will ever blame the team's issues on their "youth" or barf in the huddle.

I do agree that this week is more about the defense vs the steelers offense though.

Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Eagles_Legendz on September 20, 2016, 08:16:50 PM
PFF on top rookies through 2 games:

1. Carson Wentz, QB, Eagles
We're not going to crown Carson Wentz just yet—a lot of quarterbacks are going to looks like All-Pros against the Browns and Bears this year—but if Rookie of the Year voting were to end today, it wouldn't be particularly close. Wentz isn't just the highest-graded rookie, he's the highest graded quarterback in the entire league. His stats aren't overwhelming (they'd look better if he didn't have the second-most yards lost through the air due to drops, with 89), but he's doing so many things well that it seems incredible there were so many skeptics during draft season—myself included.
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: ice grillin you on September 21, 2016, 07:51:27 AM
she looks like shes about 9

http://nypost.com/2016/09/20/meet-carson-wentzs-girlfriend-a-perfect-north-dakota-relationship/
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on September 21, 2016, 09:00:15 AM
Yeah she does

He looks like he could pass for a ginger amish dude
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: smeags on September 21, 2016, 09:44:40 AM
I guess that's her in the bikini pic ? igy isn't kidding, she looks too young.

but hey, red solo cup means fun times.
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: hbionic on September 21, 2016, 01:11:19 PM
Quote from: smeags on September 21, 2016, 09:44:40 AM
...she looks too young.


No such thing exists.
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Butchers Bill on September 21, 2016, 01:59:01 PM
What kind of elementary schools are you fools trolling that makes you think she looks like a 9 year old??  Maybe it's because I work with a bunch of 20-somethings, but she looks like a typical millennial to me.
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Sgt PSN on September 21, 2016, 02:09:46 PM
Lol.  There's definitely a couple pics where she looks super young....like early teens.  And there's a few where she looks 19 or 20.  Regardless, she's boring as hell in terms of her appearance and lis probably an awful lay.  Wentz needs to take advantage of his high stock right now and trade up. 
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: smeags on September 21, 2016, 02:40:19 PM
id take a run at the chick on the left in the bikini pic.
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: General_Failure on September 21, 2016, 04:03:46 PM
Quote from: Sgt PSN on September 21, 2016, 02:09:46 PM
Lol.  There's definitely a couple pics where she looks super young....like early teens.  And there's a few where she looks 19 or 20.  Regardless, she's boring as hell in terms of her appearance and lis probably an awful lay.  Wentz needs to take advantage of his high stock right now and trade up. 

At least one of them was taken when she was 17, so...
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: MDS on September 22, 2016, 12:19:36 AM
i dont care if shes an infant....keep the nice christian jesus freak from north tebowland. lets keep this yokel in check doing his church-hunting-football thing and not letting his game suffer at the alter of olivia munn's holy Hoyda
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: ice grillin you on September 22, 2016, 09:12:52 AM
wait until she gets drunk at the lurie christmas party and nigel bradham fargs the holy ghost out of her and she turns into a godzillian whore ruining wentz right before a potential playoff run

better to turn the housewife into a whore sooner rather than later...or just dump her now and start bangin mele or parveen

Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: smeags on September 22, 2016, 09:16:10 AM
mmmm parveen.
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on September 22, 2016, 10:00:45 AM
Quote from: ice grillin you on September 22, 2016, 09:12:52 AM
wait until she gets drunk at the lurie christmas party and nigel bradham fargs the holy ghost out of her and she turns into a godzillian whore ruining wentz right before a potential playoff run

better to turn the housewife into a whore sooner rather than later...or just dump her now and start bangin mele or parveen

Loooolol
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: QB Eagles on September 22, 2016, 10:47:08 AM
http://www.cc.com/video-clips/ggo9bs/chappelle-s-show--the-mad-real-world--pt--2
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: MDS on September 22, 2016, 11:33:10 AM
Quote from: smeags on September 22, 2016, 09:16:10 AM
mmmm parveen.

sheena lost her fastball a number of years ago

mele is insane but older than wentz.

surprised kacie mcjockswallow hasnt clawed her way back here to claim him
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: hunt on September 22, 2016, 03:30:05 PM
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2665250-carson-wentzs-girlfriend-caught-eagles-qb-studying-game-film-under-dinner-table#

This year's No. 2 overall pick has gone as far as watching game film under the dinner table during dates with girlfriend Melissa Uhrich, who relayed her account to the New York Post's Jaclyn Hendricks:

"While Wentz has since turned pro and become Philadelphia's prized franchise quarterback, Uhrich continues to support him as she did during their college years. And while she won't hesitate to take his cellphone away during date nights—he was caught watching game film under the dinner table—she understands how much her boyfriend is dedicated to his craft."
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: smeags on September 22, 2016, 03:55:23 PM
that is awesome.
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Eagaholic on September 22, 2016, 04:36:55 PM
Nm
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on September 22, 2016, 04:37:13 PM
If he keeps this up and wins he will eclipse Utley in The Utley Factor

Gritty salt of the earther whom igy grows to hate
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: SD on September 22, 2016, 04:51:56 PM
Hate to say it but a big reason Wentz is so popular is the Tebow factor. All American white boy who is a crazed religious nut.
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: ice grillin you on September 22, 2016, 05:06:26 PM
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on September 22, 2016, 04:37:13 PM
Gritty salt of the earther whom igy grows to hate

id like him a lot more if he didnt wear "i play for HIM" shirts

but i dont see how id ever hate him....i just wont ever love him either

was never on the b dawk wagon because of it

Quote from: SD on September 22, 2016, 04:51:56 PM
Hate to say it but a big reason Wentz is so popular is the Tebow factor. All American white boy who is a crazed religious nut.

1000%

basically picture if paul grasmanis was a potential franchise qb
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: smeags on September 22, 2016, 05:10:31 PM
He can pray to Allah twice a farging day for all I care. Just win a damn Lombardi.
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on September 22, 2016, 05:28:56 PM
Nice Paul Grasmanis reference.
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Rome on September 25, 2016, 10:50:37 PM
I said earlier in the thread that he hadn't played like Joe Montana in his prime yet.

Welp... now he has.  That was a spectacular outing from the kid today.  Imagine if his receivers weren't total farging garbage with oil slicks for hands.
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: hbionic on September 25, 2016, 11:11:34 PM
They have hands? I thought at best they were stumps.
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: General_Failure on September 25, 2016, 11:13:24 PM
At least everybody on offense that isn't a WR is fairly competent.
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: smeags on September 26, 2016, 09:13:12 AM
as long as he keeps jamming to the worship music during his pre-game prep, he will be just fine.


(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-X_yXk38CoaQ/UghTQGN771I/AAAAAAAACi4/aN-LpIerX5Y/s1600/Stryper+1985+Soldiers+Under+Command.jpg)
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: ice grillin you on September 26, 2016, 09:40:53 AM
i said this to lil guy at the game yesterday but wanted to rewatch pittsburgh game to confirm and its true.....thru three games now wentz has not thrown a single off the mark pass....his accuracy has been beyond belief
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: General_Failure on September 26, 2016, 10:30:05 AM
He was hurried on one throw and went high yesterday. A couple of his short passes to the outside have been a little weaker than they should have been. No worm burners, knuckleballs, or anything to complain about from him.
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: phattymatty on September 26, 2016, 10:40:54 AM
Garbshotz Highlights: Week 3 (http://i.imgur.com/3ippzsS.gifv)
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: QB Eagles on September 26, 2016, 10:41:35 AM
Quote from: General_Failure on September 26, 2016, 10:30:05 AM
He was hurried on one throw and went high yesterday. A couple of his short passes to the outside have been a little weaker than they should have been.

Yeah he missed a couple times in this game, but not by a lot. Actually thought his accuracy was a little lower than in the first two games but Doug opened up the playbook more and there were fewer drops (and the Steelers defense was terrible), so the end result is his best game statistically. His throws look great no matter how you slice it, just nitpicking here.
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: phattymatty on September 26, 2016, 10:42:31 AM
anyone else laugh when they showed that wobbly piece of shtein TD pass by bradford yesterday?
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: QB Eagles on September 26, 2016, 10:49:49 AM
It looks kinda like Caleb Sturgis' first FG. I'd laugh more if Bradford looked like shtein, but he really doesn't, wobbly passes or not. Also a little miffed because their play dictates the Eagles draft position, and the Vikes look pretty good in all phases in spite of what should be devastating injuries.

Zimmer is a great coach in that otherwise terribly coached division. That team is going to be a force over the next decade.
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: smeags on September 26, 2016, 10:59:37 AM
my next door neighbors may not talk to me any longer after yesterday. they have to fly my eagles flag at their house for this week.

Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Rome on September 26, 2016, 11:06:03 AM
Ha!
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Sgt PSN on September 26, 2016, 11:18:36 AM
Quote from: phattymatty on September 26, 2016, 10:40:54 AM
Garbshotz Highlights: Week 3 (http://i.imgur.com/3ippzsS.gifv)

Lol
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: ice grillin you on September 26, 2016, 12:19:26 PM
Quote from: General_Failure on September 26, 2016, 10:30:05 AM
He was hurried on one throw and went high yesterday. A couple of his short passes to the outside have been a little weaker than they should have been. No worm burners, knuckleballs, or anything to complain about from him.

being absolutely 100% perfect on every throw is not the same as having not thrown an errant pass....and if the offensive line caused a throw to be rushed an thus not accurate you dont evaluate it as a negative on the qb...just like if a wr drops a ball and it gets picked that int is not on the qb...im talking about unforced errors and he has literally had none in three games....which is beyond belief
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: ice grillin you on September 26, 2016, 12:22:39 PM
Winner: Carson Wentz

They say in journalism that three events equals a trend — and friends, I am here to tell you that the highly statistical, super-reliable, threefold trend is this: Carson Wentz is subsuming, superseding, sucking the all-American football marrow out of, and just generally surpassing Tom Brady as this nation's foremost quarterback. Who is now gunning for the Pats QB's record for most passes without an interception to start a career? That's right: America's wholesomest, cornfed-est, gingerest hope, who in a three-game NFL career has tossed 102 without an INT. He is classy. He is gritty. Tom Brady is dead. Long live Tom Brady.
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Rome on September 26, 2016, 02:31:33 PM
Wtf
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: General_Failure on September 26, 2016, 03:55:48 PM
(https://66.media.tumblr.com/47893e1fb37ab38ea81801342e922774/tumblr_oe4fqhPFaq1rlp65ro1_500.gif)
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: smeags on September 26, 2016, 03:58:22 PM
uh oh, he making the brothers tone down their celebrations.  :paranoid
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Rome on September 26, 2016, 03:59:31 PM
WHITE PEOPLE. 
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: smeags on September 26, 2016, 04:10:21 PM
shoulder bumps are reserved for jesus.
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Susquehanna Birder on September 28, 2016, 10:07:42 AM
If we believe Jordan Matthews, Wentz let him come up with the celebration.

Oh, and our rookie QB was named offensive player of the week. Where is that other shoe...and when the hell is it going to drop?
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Rome on September 28, 2016, 10:19:05 AM
My co-worker was going on and on about Wentz this morning.   She kept insisting that he was going to be the next MVP and blah blah blah.   I just kinda laughed and said, yeah, you REALLY aren't from Philly, are you?

I fully expect Dr James Andrews's name to be mentioned in connection with Wentz before too long.
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: smeags on September 28, 2016, 10:51:12 AM
shut up, you.
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: QB Eagles on September 28, 2016, 11:16:03 AM
He looks like the real deal as much as any Eagles player I've ever seen in their rookie year, but any Philly fan anointing him after three games hasn't been around this team long.

I love what I'm seeing, but my guard will be up until he does the same thing the rest of this season and comes back next season as the same guy. Until then I'm on the alert for regression to the mean, blown up knees, boating accidents, the cops finding his kiddie porn stash, or failed PED tests.
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: hbionic on September 28, 2016, 11:21:17 AM
Quote from: QB Eagles on September 28, 2016, 11:16:03 AM... or failed PED tests.

There's no way he'll fail any PED test administered to him because he's a passer!
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Rome on September 28, 2016, 11:27:15 AM
🦄🌈
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Geowhizzer on September 28, 2016, 11:49:23 AM
Here's the :CF we all know and love!
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Rome on September 28, 2016, 11:57:01 AM
If anyone says they're not expecting total farging disaster, they're either lying or their last name is Hentz. 
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: ice grillin you on September 28, 2016, 12:04:45 PM
^^^^^
pretty much

the difference this time is that he almost looks too good to turn into a zesty player...so even tho its super early i think the bobby hoying fear is gone...which means thats one less thing to worry about...but it also opens up the catastrophe possibilities to something else
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Rome on September 28, 2016, 12:10:45 PM
He's clearly got talent and poise.  I'm only worried about injuries going forward and the Eagles not surrounding him with talent.   Again, past experiences here...
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: hbionic on September 28, 2016, 12:12:49 PM
Rome, you're the guy who can't have nice things without complaining about them.
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: smeags on September 28, 2016, 12:14:35 PM
of course he cant. he's sitting there waiting for the news out of north Dakota about a hunting accident this week.
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Sgt PSN on September 28, 2016, 12:15:52 PM
How about this....stfu and enjoy the ride.  I haven't enjoyed watching this team this much since 2004. In fact, I've barely enjoyed watching this team much at all between then and now. So I'm just gonna eat this shtein up for as long as they continue to serve it.
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: ice grillin you on September 28, 2016, 12:16:47 PM
my prediction is him actually being very good to great but dak prescott being the best qb in the league and the eagles not being able to get past dallas...sort of like colts peyton vs brady but the birds dont even get one
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: hbionic on September 28, 2016, 12:16:56 PM
I'm with Sarge. Literally. We got married last week. I'm the pitcher.
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: General_Failure on September 28, 2016, 12:18:47 PM
I'm guessing that if this dream of a good quarterback collapses it'll be because he's going to jail for molesting his siblings/cousins for years.
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: hbionic on September 28, 2016, 12:20:42 PM
If he does get arrested for doing something to an underage girl...I hope it has something to do with him throwing rolled-up paper balls into a girl's teen-vagina.
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Diomedes on September 28, 2016, 12:26:58 PM
Vag-shotz highlights of the week!
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: smeags on September 28, 2016, 12:29:16 PM
was anyone surprised by igy's prediction ?

Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: hbionic on September 28, 2016, 12:32:07 PM
Only that it was a Dallas QB and not a Washington one.
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Rome on September 28, 2016, 12:33:20 PM
Quote from: hbionic on September 28, 2016, 12:12:49 PM
Rome, you're the guy who can't have nice things without complaining about them.

Call it 45 years of awareness as a Philly fan, Laker cum swallower. 
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: ice grillin you on September 28, 2016, 12:34:09 PM
pretty sure kirk cousins isnt turning into the best qb in the nfl....much less be as good as carson wentz

Quote from: Rome on September 28, 2016, 12:33:20 PM
Quote from: hbionic on September 28, 2016, 12:12:49 PM
Rome, you're the guy who can't have nice things without complaining about them.

Call it 45 years of awareness as a Philly fan, Laker cum swallower. 

still salty about shaq
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Sgt PSN on September 28, 2016, 12:35:58 PM
Hahaha
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Rome on September 28, 2016, 12:39:05 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on September 28, 2016, 12:34:09 PM
pretty sure kirk cousins isnt turning into the best qb in the nfl....much less be as good as carson wentz

Quote from: Rome on September 28, 2016, 12:33:20 PM
Quote from: hbionic on September 28, 2016, 12:12:49 PM
Rome, you're the guy who can't have nice things without complaining about them.

Call it 45 years of awareness as a Philly fan, Laker cum swallower. 

still salty about shaq

Salty about a lot of things but the big Aristotle ain't one of 'em.
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Sgt PSN on September 28, 2016, 12:43:37 PM
Salty about Howard getting puked by Bynum and Gasol?  I know that one had to hurt.
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: QB Eagles on September 28, 2016, 12:51:23 PM
The name Bynum hurts a lot of us.
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Rome on September 28, 2016, 12:57:33 PM
I literally had no idea what Sassy was talking about at first.  I thought Ryan Howard initially then I remembered Dwight Howard played for the Magic.   

So good one, I guess?
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Sgt PSN on September 28, 2016, 12:58:40 PM
Lol
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on September 28, 2016, 01:45:23 PM
Quote from: Rome on September 28, 2016, 11:57:01 AM
If anyone says they're not expecting total farging disaster, they're either lying or their last name is Hentz.

I should change it to Wentz, no?

But for real...I am looking at this with a crooked eye. I expect him to regress until proven otherwise.

But if it is for real...man...when he gets better receivers and OL? Shiiiiiiiiit
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Diomedes on September 28, 2016, 01:53:36 PM
Yes, you should.

https://twitter.com/JohnBarchard/status/781118996531802112

Kelce to Wentz:  Are you a farging robot?  What the farg?  You're playing Madden out there!
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: QB Eagles on September 28, 2016, 01:58:09 PM
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on September 28, 2016, 01:45:23 PM
when if he gets better receivers and OL?
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Sgt PSN on September 28, 2016, 02:22:55 PM
Of course he's going to regress. Hes a rook and the more film thats out there on him and Pederson, the more defensive coordinators are going to find ways to bring him down a peg or 2. Maybe that happens this year, maybe it's next year.  But even then, don't look at it as regression as much as it being time for adjustments. If he and Pederson are the real deal, they'll adjust quickly.  If they're hitting their peak right now, then it's back to the same old same old.
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: smeags on September 28, 2016, 02:48:00 PM
^^^^ this
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Munson on September 28, 2016, 02:53:23 PM
lol IGY's prediction is the most predictable thing ever posted here
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: hbionic on September 28, 2016, 02:54:10 PM
Quote from: Rome on September 28, 2016, 12:33:20 PM
Quote from: hbionic on September 28, 2016, 12:12:49 PM
Rome, you're the guy who can't have nice things without complaining about them.

Call it 45 years of awareness as a Philly fan, Laker cum swallower.

Rot in Florida motherfarger and stop trying ruin my ginger experience. Not that the Big Brother experience wasn't good enough.  :-o
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: ice grillin you on September 28, 2016, 02:58:39 PM
Quote from: Sgt PSN on September 28, 2016, 02:22:55 PM
Of course he's going to regress. Hes a rook and the more film thats out there on him and Pederson, the more defensive coordinators are going to find ways to bring him down a peg or 2. Maybe that happens this year, maybe it's next year.  But even then, don't look at it as regression as much as it being time for adjustments. If he and Pederson are the real deal, they'll adjust quickly.  If they're hitting their peak right now, then it's back to the same old same old.

its hard to predict anything with him because he should be struggling mightily right now

either way theres no reason he should regress next year...he should by all rights have some rough games this year because of what you said but he damn well better be better next year than this

the thing that makes me so confident in him is his accuracy....as a DC you cant game plan for that...his success against the blitz is another great regression preventing trait as well...one of the ways to stagger a young qb is to come up with different blitz packages but this fool is already pre snap seeing eveything

again hes not going to have 0 inteceptions this year and hes yet to play a road game against a good team in a hostile enviroment but his make up is almost regression proof...its not like hes getting by on an amazing tool liek vick did with his feet or jeff george did with his arm...wentz best attributes are ones that you cant really coach against
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Susquehanna Birder on September 28, 2016, 02:59:15 PM
Quote from: Sgt PSN on September 28, 2016, 02:22:55 PM
Of course he's going to regress. Hes a rook and the more film thats out there on him and Pederson, the more defensive coordinators are going to find ways to bring him down a peg or 2. Maybe that happens this year, maybe it's next year.  But even then, don't look at it as regression as much as it being time for adjustments. If he and Pederson are the real deal, they'll adjust quickly.  If they're hitting their peak right now, then it's back to the same old same old.

I never want to wish for negative things on the guy, but we won't really know much about him for sure until he faces adversity and has to deal with the fans and the media. And it's just a matter of time before it hits the fan. If he holds up under the pressure of that, he'll have a brilliant future in this town.
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Rome on September 28, 2016, 03:14:06 PM
If he wins Philly a farging Super Bowl, he'll make Ben Franklin look like a gutter bum by historical comparison.   
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: smeags on September 28, 2016, 03:19:40 PM
hell, they'll replace billy penn with his staute on top of city hall.
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Sgt PSN on September 28, 2016, 03:23:24 PM
If Wentz wins a chip, Philly will be known as the city of gingerly love and boat house row will start using red lights.
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: smeags on September 28, 2016, 03:32:47 PM
city of gingerly love - nice
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Zanshin on September 28, 2016, 04:13:05 PM
So, if on the off chance he doesn't regress can we all agree that he'll probably decide to retire in his prime to start a ministry or some nonsense?
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Rome on September 28, 2016, 04:21:49 PM
Or manage his girlfriend's career in porn.
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Zanshin on September 28, 2016, 04:37:52 PM
Probably part of the same thing, I'm assuming.
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: General_Failure on September 28, 2016, 04:51:14 PM
A little missionary work either way, sure.
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Don Ho on September 28, 2016, 07:20:41 PM
Quote from: Sgt PSN on September 28, 2016, 12:15:52 PM
How about this....stfu and enjoy the ride.  I haven't enjoyed watching this team this much since 2004. In fact, I've barely enjoyed watching this team much at all between then and now. So I'm just gonna eat this shtein up for as long as they continue to serve it.

This!  So true.  2004 and the playoff run in 2008 were awesome but other than that and a few small pleasantries here and there I haven't felt this good about the birds in a very long time.  To be doing this with the Hands of Stone League of super heroes at WR and a geezer for a TE is truly amazing.
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Don Ho on September 28, 2016, 07:23:55 PM
Quote from: Sgt PSN on September 28, 2016, 03:23:24 PM
If Wentz wins a chip, Philly will be known as the city of gingerly love and boat house row will start using red lights.

Now that is farging funny!
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on September 28, 2016, 07:44:12 PM
Quote from: General_Failure on September 28, 2016, 04:51:14 PM
A little missionary work either way, sure.

Lolol
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Diomedes on September 29, 2016, 12:03:55 PM
Offensive Rookie of the Month
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: smeags on September 29, 2016, 12:40:54 PM
(http://cdn-s3.si.com/s3fs-public/styles/inline_gallery_desktop/public/2016/04/29/philadelphia-eagles-carson-wentz-jahlil-okafor-cheesesteak.jpg?itok=4YzgJGrr)
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Rome on September 29, 2016, 01:23:44 PM
So someone named Bart Scott referred to Ginger Jesus as fools gold and the internet lost its farging mind.

At least someone is trashing a player who's exceeded expectations  for this team for a change. 
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: ice grillin you on September 29, 2016, 01:26:24 PM
did he say that a week ago?....or did he say something new?
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Diomedes on September 29, 2016, 01:27:53 PM
Without looking it up, I'd define "fool's gold" as treasure stumbled upon by a lucky fool.

Howie the fool?
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: General_Failure on September 29, 2016, 01:30:39 PM
Quote from: Diomedes on September 29, 2016, 01:27:53 PM
Without looking it up, I'd define "fool's gold" as treasure stumbled upon by a lucky fool.

I don't think that's right. Not even half right. Pyrite.
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: ice grillin you on September 29, 2016, 01:36:15 PM
https://bustedcoverage.com/2016/09/29/carson-wentz-hunting-bye-week-photos-instagram/
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Rome on September 29, 2016, 01:38:01 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on September 29, 2016, 01:26:24 PM
did he say that a week ago?....or did he say something new?

He said it a week ago then apologized (sorta) for it today. 

Basically he was willing to disparage Wentz after he beat two lousy teams, yet was unwilling to praise him until he's played three years in the NFL. 

You know, logic and shtein. 
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Sgt PSN on September 29, 2016, 02:21:40 PM
Quote from: General_Failure on September 29, 2016, 01:30:39 PM
Quote from: Diomedes on September 29, 2016, 01:27:53 PM
Without looking it up, I'd define "fool's gold" as treasure stumbled upon by a lucky fool.

I don't think that's right. Not even half right. Pyrite.

Haha. Nice.
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on December 04, 2016, 08:47:41 PM
http://sports.yahoo.com/news/theres-something-wrong-with-carson-wentzs-throwing-style-and-much-of-nfl-has-caught-on-011427565.html
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: ice grillin you on December 04, 2016, 09:33:13 PM
yup
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: hbionic on December 05, 2016, 01:10:51 AM
IGY don't give a farg, Eagles have been to the playoffs in over half of the past 22 seasons. It's all good.
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: ice grillin you on December 05, 2016, 08:41:22 AM
Quote from: hbionic on December 05, 2016, 01:10:51 AM
IGY don't give a farg, Eagles have been to the playoffs in over half of the past 22 seasons. It's all good.

how will you ever decide between two LA teams
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Don Ho on December 05, 2016, 11:27:25 AM
There'll  be plenty of seats to help with that decision.
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: MDS on December 08, 2016, 10:38:50 AM
mmqb

Quote1. Wentz wagon stuck in neutral. If you are reasonable, you probably knew Eagles QB Carson Wentz couldn't maintain the torrid five-game pace he was keeping through Columbus Day. But this thing, statistically, has gone the other way all together. After Week 5, Wentz's passer rating was sixth in the NFL, at 103.5, and he'd thrown seven touchdown passes against a single interception. Over the eight weeks since, he ranks 29th and last among qualifying quarterbacks with a 70.5 rating, having thrown five touchdown passes against 10 picks, and taken 19 sacks.
What gives? Defensive coordinators have tape on him. They know how the Eagles made him comfortable early. And that's helped them make him uncomfortable now. Defenses are sitting on the short stuff, pinning him in the pocket, and forcing him to go deeper into his progressions. That has affected his accuracy, and more specifically revealed Wentz's tendency to miss receivers high.
"If you watch Wentz—watch him against Cleveland, Pittsburgh, Chicago—the guy can move, he's a good athlete," said one rival defensive coordinator who's faced him. "So you have to change coverages and blitzes on the kid. Make the coverages look like blitzes and the blitzes look like coverages, You get him to pat the ball, get him to his second and third progressions, and he loses some accuracy." This particular coach then added, "That said, I think he's gonna be really good." And the Eagles agree. One Philly source put it bluntly in saying, "We knew this would happen."
Here are the three main reasons why: 1) The Eagles did things early to get Wentz going (namely getting him on the move and getting him easy completions) that they knew other teams would eventually take away; 2) The Lane Johnson suspension was looming, and it has made a huge difference up front; and 3) the Eagles knew they need another playmaker to help Wentz, and they plan to get him one in 2017. So that, at least in part, explains why he's trailing the likes of Case Keenum, Brock Osweiler and Blake Bortles in passer rating over the past eight weeks. But going through it has been valuable, and it's not like he hasn't gotten better through it. According to the guys working with him, he's improved his base and his stride mechanically, and is showing an increasing willingness to check the ball down when his reads aren't there. It just takes time, which the Eagles will, of course, give him. And the expectation is that they'll get a little more out of him at home this week against Washington.
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Rome on December 08, 2016, 11:13:03 AM
Lol at another weapon.  Really?   Ya think??
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: SD on December 08, 2016, 11:16:25 AM
I have zero doubt in my mind that Wentz will be a top 10 QB as soon as he has an above average line and half way decent receivers.

Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: QB Eagles on December 08, 2016, 11:28:51 AM
Quotethe Eagles knew they need another playmaker to help Wentz, and they plan to get him one in 2017

lol at "another" and "one"
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: MDS on December 08, 2016, 11:31:24 AM
Quote from: SD on December 08, 2016, 11:16:25 AM
I have zero doubt in my mind that Wentz will be a top 10 QB as soon as he has an above average line and half way decent receivers.



hes line isnt that bad...the only game where it killed him was the first wash game when vaitai was a trainwreck. could it be better? sure. lane would be nice. so would an improvement from kelce.

but protection issues havent really killed him. throwing to hot garbage that cant catch has. consider this

QuoteEli Manning & Carson Wentz are both 285 for 452 passing for the season. Eli has 196 more yds, 10 more TDs.

gee i wonder where those extra yards and tds are coming from
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: SD on December 08, 2016, 11:35:57 AM
His o line has been ok, most of his passes are short routes so of course protection looks like it's alright. I'd say they're average at best.
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Rome on December 08, 2016, 11:37:48 AM
Seriously.  Look, Wentz might be a disaster in the future but Trey Burton is his most reliable target at this point.  How can anything be judged fairly in terms of his future potential with that sort of dreck?
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: smeags on December 08, 2016, 11:44:51 AM
the oline def needs improving. even if he had wr's that got open downfield he'd have issues getting enough time to throw.

that said yeah, the guy needs weapons around him. I mean, id be happy with one at this point.
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: ice grillin you on December 08, 2016, 12:05:23 PM
the line has been good enough...they cant protect forever and every play they basically have to because no one can get open

the line hurts wentz much more in the running game where they are unable to consistently get anything going to run PA off of and also to get into favorable down and distance
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: hbionic on December 08, 2016, 02:13:37 PM
Loser teams do loser things.
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Rome on December 28, 2016, 05:50:53 PM
http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/18365140/carson-wentz-buys-philadelphia-eagles-offensive-line-shotguns-christmas

Because of course he did.
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: General_Failure on December 28, 2016, 07:47:45 PM
Hasn't Lane Johnson shot himself in the foot enough?
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Rome on December 28, 2016, 07:58:26 PM
He didn't get one.  He got a box of shotgun shells with 10 out of 16 missing instead.
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: MDS on December 28, 2016, 09:34:53 PM
i get that hes a sheltered little farm boy from north dakota who doesnt understand gun violence, but jesus come on dude
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: ice grillin you on December 28, 2016, 11:55:30 PM
what a farging brain dead moron....he might as well gave them all bibles
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Diomedes on December 29, 2016, 07:51:28 AM
I don't know.  He wasn't making gifts to elitist message board fanboys, he gave them to grunt jocks.  I suspect they loved it.

Besides..how many people were killed by two thousand dollar hunting shotguns in the last decade in America? 

Not farging many.   It's not like he gave them all AR-15s.
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: smeags on December 29, 2016, 07:54:20 AM
but ... gunz !
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Rome on December 29, 2016, 08:45:10 AM
They all loved them.  IGY's reaction is hilarious, though. 
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: ice grillin you on December 29, 2016, 09:12:27 AM
giving away a bunch of guns is ignorant as farg but take guns out of it giving all of them something  that you just assume they'll love because you love it is so hilariously dumb....it could have been fishing poles with platinum rods and gold plated reels

it would be like me getting married and giving each person in my wedding party the king of queens box set
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: smeags on December 29, 2016, 09:14:42 AM
 :-D :-D
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: SD on December 29, 2016, 09:15:52 AM
I thought it was a nice gesture. Also shows me he's not a Hoyda.
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Diomedes on December 29, 2016, 09:40:54 AM
Quote from: ice grillin you on December 29, 2016, 09:12:27 AM
giving away a bunch of guns is ignorant as farg but take guns out of it giving all of them something  that you just assume they'll love because you love it is so hilariously dumb....it could have been fishing poles with platinum rods and gold plated reels

it would be like me getting married and giving each person in my wedding party the king of queens box set

It would be more like giving every person in your wedding party a free round trip ticket with hotel and tickets to the taping of his new show, but we get your point:  white north dakota boy can't please you.
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: MDS on December 29, 2016, 03:03:38 PM
maybe im in a minority but if i got a gun as a gift i would politely decline it...i dont want anything to do with those things. not even as window dressing. they are violent murderous weapons that do nothing but harm.

great gift though!
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on December 29, 2016, 04:39:24 PM
Yeah you're in the minority. You ain't about that North Dakota life!
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Diomedes on December 29, 2016, 04:46:54 PM
If your Jew ass got a two grand gun your eyes would roll dolla dolla bill y'all and your toothy mouth would say "thanks."
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Sgt PSN on December 29, 2016, 04:53:43 PM
The o-line is basically made up of corn fed white boys and county brothas.  A shotgun seems like a gift they'd all enjoy.
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: General_Failure on December 29, 2016, 05:01:01 PM
Centers definitely appreciate shotguns.
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Rome on December 29, 2016, 06:39:52 PM
I'd be very appreciative.
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: MDS on December 29, 2016, 09:42:51 PM
Quote from: Rome on December 29, 2016, 06:39:52 PM
I'd be very appreciative.

because youre basically a right wing lunatic except you vote democratic

Quote from: Sgt PSN on December 29, 2016, 04:53:43 PM
The o-line is basically made up of corn fed white boys and county brothas.  A shotgun seems like a gift they'd all enjoy.

hipster kelce says otherwise
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: QB Eagles on December 29, 2016, 10:27:16 PM
http://www.philly.com/philly/sports/eagles/20161106_McLane__Several_Eagles__for_protection_and_hunting__own_guns.html
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on December 29, 2016, 10:44:29 PM
#Eagles Lane Johnson on getting shotgun as gift from Carson Wentz; "I'm lucky I got anything at all. I may have gotten a shotgun to the face
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: phattymatty on December 30, 2016, 02:17:53 AM
i'm a pansy who has never shot a gun in my life but whatever like they didn't already know he was a redneck. big whoop.

i'd be more mad because what does a shotgun cost, like a few hundred bucks at walmart? gimme some bling QB1.

i drove by an auto parts store called Wentz Auto Parts during a road trip through pennsyltucky last week and there was a big sign of carson next to it. not sure if they are just profiting off the coincidence or it's some kind of family.
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: General_Failure on December 30, 2016, 07:17:59 AM
Quote from: phattymatty on December 30, 2016, 02:17:53 AM
i'd be more mad because what does a shotgun cost, like a few hundred bucks at walmart? gimme some bling QB1.

QuoteThe rookie quarterback endeared himself to the men up front by buying each of them a Beretta shotgun for Christmas. Each is personalized with the player's number engraved on the butt of the gun.

"This is an awesome gun. I'm excited about it," said Allen Barbre, a fellow hunter. Barbre believes the Beretta model is a Silver Pigeon, which retails around $2,000 a pop. "I don't know if I'll shoot it, though. It's pretty nice."
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Eagaholic on December 30, 2016, 09:04:25 AM
Lane Johnson's should have been engraved with the number 10 and the inscription "you know what to do"
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: ice grillin you on December 30, 2016, 09:18:52 AM
do people really hunt with shot guns?.....i thought shot guns were inaccurate as farg and mostly used at close range

i thought rifles like in the deer hunter were used for hunting
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: smeags on December 30, 2016, 09:26:55 AM
yes, they are. a lot. 
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Diomedes on December 30, 2016, 09:41:53 AM
Shotguns are the most commonly used firearm for deer in my area.  They are plenty accurate at the range most fire from.  Rifles send bullets way too far to be safe in populated place like almost all of Maryland.  Besides, no one wants to shoot a deer 600 yards off just to drag it back.
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Sgt PSN on December 30, 2016, 09:48:48 AM
Quote from: ice grillin you on December 30, 2016, 09:18:52 AM
do people really hunt with shot guns?.....i thought shot guns were inaccurate as farg and mostly used at close range

i thought rifles like in the deer hunter were used for hunting

Depends on what you're hunting.  Shotguns are typically used for hunting birds and other small/medium game, like fox or deer.  Basically any kind of animal that you're going to hunt/shoot at close range. Rifles are for hunting large game from a safe distance.
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Don Ho on December 30, 2016, 02:18:31 PM
Quote from: MDS on December 29, 2016, 09:42:51 PM
Quote from: Rome on December 29, 2016, 06:39:52 PM
I'd be very appreciative.

because youre basically a right wing lunatic except you vote democratic

Quote from: Sgt PSN on December 29, 2016, 04:53:43 PM
The o-line is basically made up of corn fed white boys and county brothas.  A shotgun seems like a gift they'd all enjoy.

hipster kelce says otherwise

I'm sure Big V and Seumalo were hoping for a Hawaiian fishing spear.
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Eagles_Legendz on January 01, 2017, 08:48:22 PM
Has a lot to work on but all things considered, coming out of NDSU, there was more good than bad.
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Sgt PSN on January 01, 2017, 10:32:47 PM
His poise, athleticism, arm, mental grasp of the game each range from good to excellent.

His mechanics are an issue and he's got to learn how to stop throwing high in the middle of the field...which is mostly mechanics related.  I'd guess at least half his ints this year were on high throws.  I suppose the 1 benefit to worm burners was that they never got picked.
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Susquehanna Birder on January 03, 2017, 07:25:17 AM
I'm thinking that his poor mechanics are linked to his inability to set his feet. Yeah, he can throw on the run, but he shouldn't have to do that as much as he has. Give him a little more pocket comfort and another second or two to plant, and everybody will benefit.
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Rome on January 03, 2017, 07:55:34 AM
Receivers that actually create separation on occasion wouldn't hurt either. 
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Susquehanna Birder on January 03, 2017, 08:02:31 AM
And ones that don't have cinder blocks for hands.
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: smeags on January 03, 2017, 08:28:36 AM
I didn't expect much more than I saw from this kid.
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Sgt PSN on January 03, 2017, 12:46:22 PM
Quote from: smeags on January 03, 2017, 08:28:36 AM
I didn't expect much more than I saw from this kid.

I didn't expect even a fraction of what I saw from him. Surpassed my expectations by a mile.
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: General_Failure on January 03, 2017, 12:56:55 PM
He's got everything down except that whole passing thing. If he can get that sorted out IGY might begrudgingly say he's nearly half as good as Prescott or Cousins.
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: smeags on January 03, 2017, 01:12:53 PM
or if wentz starts wearing sixers gear.
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Munson on January 03, 2017, 01:24:13 PM
He gave a ball to Mike Trout, so if he can just lure him here...
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: smeags on January 03, 2017, 02:07:32 PM
Quote from: Munson on January 03, 2017, 01:24:13 PM
He gave a ball to Mike Trout, so if he can just lure him here...

trout seems like a guy who would love to play for his hometown team if possible. just have to pay the man and have a roster that doesn't suck.
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: ice grillin you on January 03, 2017, 02:17:18 PM
trout is from the shore not philly and the last time i checked millville does not have a mlb franchise
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: smeags on January 03, 2017, 02:19:33 PM
omg really ????

thanks for clarifying that.
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Rome on January 03, 2017, 02:34:40 PM
Millville isn't the farging shore, you dumb Jew. 
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: smeags on January 03, 2017, 02:59:36 PM
wait, south central NJ isn't the shore ?
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: ice grillin you on January 03, 2017, 04:58:06 PM
it's not on the shore but it's definitely the shore....it's like 15 minutes from the ocean

you know what def isn't mike trouts "hometown"?....Philadelphia
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: smeags on January 04, 2017, 08:34:27 AM
30miles inland but hey, who is being particular here, right ?

either way, lets just say you won this amazing debate so the thread can move along.

congrats  :yay
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: ice grillin you on January 04, 2017, 08:57:49 AM
its like 10 minutes from that preserve down there which is on the ocean....you do know theres shore other than wildwood right?...stay up in the woods you neanderthal

also you said trout seems like hes a guy that would want to play in his hometown...meaning philly...lol
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Rome on January 04, 2017, 08:58:59 AM
I'm from Sea Isle.  That's the farging shore.  Millville is where you go to get corn, tomatoes and meth. 
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: smeags on January 04, 2017, 09:05:56 AM
now he changes it to "ocean" ... lmao.

I said his hometown team, I think the Phillies are slightly popular in Millville, but maybe not enough to be considered that town's favorite MLB team.
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: ice grillin you on January 04, 2017, 09:18:53 AM
ummm where the ocean hits the land is the shore....why am i talking to grizzly adams about such things?

millville is the shore like conshohocken is philly...but even if you think the shore is only actual towns ON the ocean which is fair millville is totally not philly and dont get it twisted

his hometown team would be the millville little league....what you meant was you think hed like to play for the team he rooted for as a child
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: smeags on January 04, 2017, 09:23:15 AM
yes, I meant his little league team.

lmao, you got me.

here's your prize
(https://i.ytimg.com/vi/_H6qngeXQIg/hqdefault.jpg)

Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: hunt on January 04, 2017, 12:26:48 PM
he looks to be older than 12...we're gonna need to see his birth certificate for sure.
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: smeags on January 04, 2017, 12:35:58 PM
c'mon, that would ruin any chance the Millville LL team has of making a serious run at the LL world series. 
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Sgt PSN on January 04, 2017, 02:53:31 PM
You guys are farging idiots.  If you didn't grow up in Philly proper then the sports teams that play in Philly aren't really your hometown team.  This isn't complicated. It's  flawless logic that can't be argued against.   

Except...

I'm from Norristown. The high school teams are the Eagles. So the Eagles ARE my hometown team.  Suck on that.
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: smeags on January 04, 2017, 03:04:45 PM
don't get it twisted, there are no exceptions.


Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: General_Failure on January 04, 2017, 03:17:57 PM
I thought Wentz was from Nebraska.
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: smeags on January 04, 2017, 04:19:32 PM
Quote from: General_Failure on January 04, 2017, 03:17:57 PM
I thought Wentz was from Nebraska.

true but he's looking for beachfront property in Millville.
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: MDS on January 04, 2017, 09:42:30 PM
theres a difference between "hometown" and "team"

of course anyone from the general philly likes the philly teams not everyone from the philly area is from philly....i.e. mike trout from milleville
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: ice grillin you on January 05, 2017, 10:25:51 AM
take trout out of the mix and at least a quarter of millville are probably yankee fans
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Eagaholic on January 05, 2017, 04:50:35 PM
This is the most awesome Carson Wentz thread ever.
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: SD on March 11, 2017, 12:12:11 PM
http://penews.org/features/nfl-quarterback-carson-wentz-an-audience-of-one

(http://content.boards.philadelphiaeagles.com/monthly_2017_03/fxxk7Bxl.jpg.617bbf26951b07cf125c44e2907058eb.jpg)
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: ice grillin you on March 11, 2017, 01:28:03 PM
kill me now
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: General_Failure on March 11, 2017, 01:30:48 PM
QuoteWhile all eyes are on Carson, his eyes remain focused on the Lord. He is committed to making the name of Jesus Christ famous

Man, he's really got his work cut out for him there.
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on March 11, 2017, 01:41:56 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on March 11, 2017, 01:28:03 PM
kill me now

AO1 will lay them hands on you and bring you back
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Sgt PSN on March 11, 2017, 01:45:31 PM
Never heard of him.  How's that pronounced anyway?  Is it Gee Zoos?  Jay Zus?  Jess Us?  Hey Zues?  Cheeze Us? I wanna learn more about this guy. His name is fascinating, so I can only imagine everything else about him is unbelievable. 
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: ice grillin you on March 11, 2017, 03:09:43 PM
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on March 11, 2017, 01:41:56 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on March 11, 2017, 01:28:03 PM
kill me now

AO1 will lay them hands on you and bring you back

I hate you so much
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: ice grillin you on July 10, 2017, 03:44:09 PM
jordan matthews

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DEYtAbVXcAEBM_s.jpg:large)
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: MDS on July 10, 2017, 04:37:34 PM
what kind of animal makes his teammates come out to farging north dakota to workout

go to miami...spend 10 minutes throwing and the rest of the time doing blow and fingering strippers in the bathroom. losers.
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Diomedes on July 10, 2017, 05:14:31 PM
I always thought the same about McNabb.  Who the wants to go to farging Arizona?  In summer.  To practice football.  It's a zesty tradition, this business of the star QB issuing what amounts to mandatory training camp invitations to whatever shteinhole they call home.
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: hbionic on July 10, 2017, 05:34:32 PM
Quote from: MDS on July 10, 2017, 04:37:34 PM
what kind of animal makes his teammates come out to farging north dakota to workout

go to miami...spend 10 minutes throwing and the rest of the time doing blow and fingering strippers in the bathroom. losers.

Ha. Exactly.
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: hbionic on July 10, 2017, 05:35:12 PM
Quote from: MDS on July 10, 2017, 04:37:34 PM
what kind of animal makes his teammates come out to farging north dakota to workout

go to miami...spend 10 minutes throwing and the rest of the time doing blow and fingering strippers in the bathroom. losers.

Maybe Carson is secretly hoping he can rufee the bison burgers so he can finger the receivers.
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on July 10, 2017, 08:28:11 PM
He's brought them there under the guise of football workout but he's going to kidnap them and put them in some Jesus freak camp
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Munson on July 11, 2017, 12:02:59 AM
Carson is gonna Sunshine from Remember The Titans them and try to bring them into some restaurant that doesn't take kindly to his teammates in them parts.

Nah but I'd enjoy visiting Teddy Roosevelt National Park.
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Eagaholic on July 11, 2017, 01:40:38 AM
He's going to lure them up to North farging Dakota and once he has them there he's gonna make them work on running better routes and holding on to the ball and getting on the same page and shtein. Suckas.
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Eagaholic on July 11, 2017, 01:41:02 AM
nm
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: smeags on July 11, 2017, 08:50:12 AM
AO1
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: MDS on July 11, 2017, 09:44:53 PM
all this jesus garbage stuff is still infinitely better than mcnabb's passive aggressiveness mixed with cringe worthy corny comedy routines
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on July 11, 2017, 09:50:08 PM
Five will always love you, mcnabb_defense_superbowl
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: MDS on July 11, 2017, 09:54:44 PM
he will always love his bottle of jack daniels and his team records that wentz will breeze past
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Tomahawk on July 12, 2017, 12:09:14 AM
I hope Wentz breezes past McNabb's numbers since they are the best any Eagles quarterback has had
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: ice grillin you on July 12, 2017, 05:35:41 AM
Quote from: MDS on July 11, 2017, 09:44:53 PM
all this jesus garbage stuff is still infinitely better than mcnabb's passive aggressiveness

it might be better right now but the bedwetter has a 15 year track record and it's certainly nowhere close to infinitely better...in fact at equal stages of their careers bedwetter was far more likeable....in fact I liked him until the TO year...wentz I already can't stand
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Tomahawk on July 12, 2017, 07:43:22 AM
Also Wentz has no soul
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Rome on July 12, 2017, 08:16:08 AM
IGY doesn't like Wentz but would suck Bryce Harper's dick dry. 

Lollercats. 
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: SD on July 12, 2017, 08:36:49 AM
Wentz met with Russia
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: smeags on July 12, 2017, 08:49:54 AM
Quote from: SD on July 12, 2017, 08:36:49 AM
Wentz met with Russia

well duh, that's where jesus lives. gotta go through the proper channels to get a meeting.
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: ice grillin you on July 12, 2017, 09:16:33 AM
Quote from: Rome on July 12, 2017, 08:16:08 AM
IGY doesn't like Wentz but would suck Bryce Harper's dick dry. 

Lollercats.


i despise bryce harper....but im not stupid enough to not want him on the phillies just because i hate him

even tho he annoys the shtein out of me i still hope wentz wins the eagles a superbowl

see how this works?
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: smeags on July 12, 2017, 09:20:25 AM
igys gotta teach sum stuff around here y'all.
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: MDS on July 12, 2017, 09:38:56 AM
wentz is only really terrible on social media and when someone brings up that jew he worships. during pressers hes a boring dry white guy qb. during the game he an awkward dork.

mcnabb was a bitter douche from day 1 after he got booed at the draft...his horrible comedy routines started shortly thereafter...his awfulness really went into overdrive later on post-TO, sure, but nothing in this world will ever be worse than his dance before the cowboys playoff game i dont care how many AO1 shirts wentz wears
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: SD on July 12, 2017, 09:41:47 AM
Wentz is more of an alpha male and leader than Mcnabb ever was. That's the only trait I care about personality wise.
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: MDS on July 12, 2017, 09:50:22 AM
(http://a.espncdn.com/photo/2009/1029/nfl_ap_mcnabb_phone_480.jpg)

"hello, SD? thats an unfair thing to say. i was very macho."

also this is the last time the eagles won a playoff game and its 100% a curse brought on by this corny fat farg's horrible vaudville routine
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Zanshin on July 12, 2017, 09:52:38 AM
All things are subject to change-- however, I don't care about the personality bullshtein to the extent that it doesn't affect the team. To this point, Wentz seems to have the team believing he can get it done; that he's the guy to follow. What he does other than that, I don't really care about. McNabb's personality quirks, though, seemed to increasingly alienate him and make him less of a leader. I think it was that selfish, overly-sensitive edge that turned off the team. The dorky moonwalking in public probably didn't help or inspire confidence, either, but I'm going to go with the overly-sensitive thing, final answer.
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: ice grillin you on July 12, 2017, 09:57:35 AM
mcnabbs respect in the locker room and the league for that matter died when the TO thing jumped off.....he could never come back from that
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: phattymatty on July 12, 2017, 10:02:06 AM
i'm all in on wentz unless he does the air guitar on the field. then i'm out.
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: SD on July 12, 2017, 10:24:21 AM
Quote from: phattymatty on July 12, 2017, 10:02:06 AM
i'm all in on wentz unless he does the air guitar on the field. then i'm out.

(http://i.makeagif.com/media/8-15-2014/Bhc93u.gif)
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: smeags on July 12, 2017, 10:24:40 AM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cg0cxJlWsAAspks.jpg)
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: SD on July 12, 2017, 10:29:42 AM
(http://www.inforum.com/sites/default/files/styles/16x9_620/public/fieldimages/1/0913/giphy-2.gif?itok=acjMVUgT)
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: ice grillin you on July 12, 2017, 10:33:20 AM
repug
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: smeags on July 12, 2017, 10:38:57 AM
(https://pics.me.me/jon-gruden-sharing-his-thoughts-nfl-memes4you-on-carson-wentz-19072949.png)
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: QB Eagles on July 12, 2017, 12:05:18 PM
If you took out all the Jesus freaks and all the guys who are dirtbags of some sort, there would be like 25 guys left in the NFL.
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Rome on July 12, 2017, 05:04:58 PM
Quote from: QB Eagles on July 12, 2017, 12:05:18 PM
If you took out all the Jesus freaks and all the guys who are dirtbags of some sort, there would be Connor Barwin left in the NFL.
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: ice grillin you on July 12, 2017, 05:30:44 PM
Quote from: QB Eagles on July 12, 2017, 12:05:18 PM
If you took out all the Jesus freaks and all the guys who are dirtbags of some sort, there would be like 25 guys left in the NFL.

i honestly have no idea if any eagle other than wentz even believes in a god
which is good
keep that shtein in church and on your mantle

plus he's just a generally annoying hate the face type of guy
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: MDS on July 13, 2017, 12:04:41 AM
id suspect most of the black dudes love jesus...they are just cool about it. i think matthews is a borderline fundy.

wentz is trying to become tebow
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: ice grillin you on July 15, 2017, 12:58:43 PM
and its begun...

(https://i.imgur.com/X9VDaA9.jpg)
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: MDS on July 17, 2017, 12:43:54 AM
camo shorts are really cool. good look.

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DEtkF1vVwAA9zJw.jpg)
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Sgt PSN on July 17, 2017, 10:47:15 AM
That is the largest gathering of black people in North Dakota ever.
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Rome on August 02, 2017, 09:32:31 AM
http://www.philly.com/philly/sports/eagles/philadelphia-eagles-qb-carson-wentz-reacts-to-north-dakota-family-brought-to-tears-by-watching-him-20170801.html?mobi=true

This may be the greatest thing I've ever read. 
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Zanshin on August 02, 2017, 09:35:30 AM
That means you need to read a lot more. Maybe hit up the "What are you reading" thread for suggestions?
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Rome on August 02, 2017, 09:37:35 AM
But they were crying tears of joy, man!

How can that NOT be the goat?
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: ice grillin you on August 02, 2017, 09:49:51 AM
not sure why you would bring up the stat then not say who the other two are but i cant find the 3rd north dakota high schooler playing in the nfl....one is brent qvale (tackle jets)

also there is a red lobster right across the street from carson wentz high school


EDIT: its landon lechler (tackle, bengals)

fyi - lechler worked for the north dakota state sheep unit during the summer of 2016
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: QB Eagles on August 02, 2017, 10:23:09 AM
I'll be in ND during the Week 2 game. Lucky me, I know. I'm thinking that if Wentz looks like crap, maybe I should keep that opinion to myself that week.
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: SD on August 02, 2017, 11:13:05 AM
Can you pick me up an AO1 hoodie
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Tomahawk on August 02, 2017, 11:37:11 PM
Quote from: QB Eagles on August 02, 2017, 10:23:09 AM
I'll be in ND during the Week 2 game. Lucky me, I know. I'm thinking that if Wentz looks like crap, maybe I should keep that opinion to myself that week.

Right...be extremely careful not to upset any bison with your with your opinions
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Rome on August 03, 2017, 07:13:20 AM
Quote from: QB Eagles on August 02, 2017, 10:23:09 AM
I'll be in ND during the Week 2 game. Lucky me, I know. I'm thinking that if Wentz looks like crap, maybe I should keep that opinion to myself that week.

That game should be off the hoof. 
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: ice grillin you on August 15, 2017, 11:44:47 AM
please make it stop

QuoteWentz said he talked to Jordan Matthews since the trade. Told him he's praying for him.
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Diomedes on August 15, 2017, 12:13:11 PM
lol

crying about the fire as you throw logs on?
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: General_Failure on August 15, 2017, 12:14:36 PM
So what will they get for Wentz when he asks to be traded to Buffalo?
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Sgt PSN on August 15, 2017, 03:50:16 PM
Shady and Matthews.
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on August 15, 2017, 04:46:58 PM
I hope they keep up the bromance to keep igy fired up

AO1
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: ice grillin you on August 15, 2017, 06:06:05 PM
what would an eagle qb have to do to not have your unconditional love?

murder?....or would it have to be something really bad like kiddie rape....would that even do it?
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Diomedes on August 15, 2017, 06:18:41 PM
Well, unconditional love pretty much allows anything so..what's your point?  That he's a homer and you're....not?

I draw the line at puking the Super Bowl away.   Torturing dogs to death is bad, but I can find a way to let it go. 
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: MDS on August 15, 2017, 08:43:29 PM
all eagles players are awesome  :)
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: ice grillin you on August 15, 2017, 08:48:19 PM
Quote from: MDS on August 15, 2017, 08:43:29 PM
all eagles players are awesome  :)

none moreso tho than the qb cause he is the face of the franchise

j's love story with the bedwetter is all you need to know
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on August 15, 2017, 08:52:13 PM
Mmmhmmm sure.
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on September 04, 2017, 12:47:38 AM
http://www.philly.com/philly/sports/eagles/philadelphia-eagles-quarterback-carson-wentz-religion-gospel-faith-jeff-mclane-20170904.html?utm_campaign=Philly.com+Sports+Twitter+Account&utm_source=t.co&utm_medium=social&cid=Philly.com+Sports+Twitter+Account&mobi=true

Some light reading for igy

AO1
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: MDS on September 04, 2017, 09:30:52 AM
revolting
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Munson on September 04, 2017, 09:40:45 AM
Barf.

If he doesn't suck I don't care.
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Rome on September 04, 2017, 10:05:15 AM
Brainwashed simpletons. 
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: ice grillin you on September 04, 2017, 10:17:57 AM
why cant the eagles have a qb who isnt despicable
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Rome on September 04, 2017, 10:23:58 AM
It's not that he's despicable.  He's just a simpleminded product of white privilege in a country that rewards people of his ilk above all others. 

The sad thing is they have no idea how divisive their little "brotherhood" really is, although Ertz did admit as much in that piece. 

And it's not just Wentz either.  Hicks said he wanted 53 Christians on the team.  It's just astounding to me how easily they're manipulated into believing in their gang-like bullshtein.  They can dress it up in a pretty bow but that's what it is.  Might as well be crips or bloods.   
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: QB Eagles on September 04, 2017, 10:27:19 AM
The main thing I got from the article is that neither McLane nor his editor know the difference between an anagram and an acronym.
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: ice grillin you on September 04, 2017, 10:28:20 AM
despicable might be too kind of a word

i just want to like the people i root for especially the qb of my football team...if their right guard was a zealot i could live with it
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Sgt PSN on September 04, 2017, 10:33:21 AM
Quote from: ice grillin you on September 04, 2017, 10:28:20 AM
despicable might be too kind of a word

i just want to like the people i root for especially the qb of my football team...if their right guard was a zealot i could live with it

This is some serious white privilege shtein right here.  Sorry about your struggles.
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: ice grillin you on September 04, 2017, 10:36:59 AM
my whole life is beats and sports....dont have much else going on
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Sgt PSN on September 04, 2017, 10:37:23 AM
Imma pray for you.
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: ice grillin you on September 04, 2017, 10:39:45 AM
400 hundred years of gettin our ass kicked by so called christians and catholics but one day these babies will uprise much more than bow ties and bean pies

kickin knowledge at the seven eleven and they wont call me a stillupfront when i get to heaven
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: SD on September 04, 2017, 09:06:45 PM
I don't know shtein about Wentz's personal life, but I was about to throw out the he's gotta still be a virgin question. Quick google search shows he has a girlfriend. She's average, but I'm pretty sure he's getting Hoyda on the regular.

http://nypost.com/2016/09/20/meet-carson-wentzs-girlfriend-a-perfect-north-dakota-relationship/
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: MDS on September 04, 2017, 09:26:32 PM
100% chance hes waiting for marriage. unless the whole christian thing is an act which seems like a lot of work to keep up
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Rome on September 04, 2017, 09:45:40 PM
No chance he's gotten laid. 

Audience Of One means exactly that.
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: ice grillin you on September 04, 2017, 10:20:42 PM
Quote from: Rome on September 04, 2017, 09:45:40 PM
Audience Of One means exactly that.

lolol
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Sgt PSN on September 04, 2017, 11:07:18 PM
Quote from: Rome on September 04, 2017, 09:45:40 PM
No chance he's gotten laid. 

Audience Of One means exactly that.

FTW
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: ice grillin you on September 06, 2017, 03:14:28 PM
reuben frank actually just wrote this...and probably with a straight face

Wentz is no religious zealot. Anything but. Ask him about his faith, ask him about a particular biblical verse, ask him about his relationship with Jesus, and he's happy to chat. For hours.
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on September 06, 2017, 07:04:29 PM
Idgaf who he worships

Just ball out, ginger
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: rjs246 on September 07, 2017, 08:26:41 AM
I root for laundry.
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Sgt PSN on September 07, 2017, 09:03:57 AM
And that laundry has AO1 printed on it. 
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: rjs246 on September 07, 2017, 09:41:57 AM
Just to state the obvious, religious zealots can get farged.
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: ice grillin you on September 07, 2017, 10:32:08 AM
i wouldnt talk about the eagles for hours and i consider myself a birds zealot
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: MDS on September 08, 2017, 11:57:12 AM
"Well, I love Jesus. That's what I love, so I'm going to talk about it."
-carson wentz

http://www.faithwire.com/2017/09/07/i-love-jesus-star-nfl-quarterback-has-a-message-about-what-christianity-is-all-about/
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Sgt PSN on September 08, 2017, 12:11:15 PM
You guys are way too obsessed with this dude's obsession with Jesus. 
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on September 08, 2017, 12:45:09 PM
Havas and lil guy obsessed over something?

No way
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: SD on September 08, 2017, 01:30:32 PM
I like poking fun at the insanity of it all but could give two shteins what he believes in. If it helps him become a better Quarterback, keep drinking the kool aid
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: smeags on September 08, 2017, 01:49:39 PM
im sure the obsession by the wonder twins will wind down as time goes along.  :paranoid
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: ice grillin you on September 08, 2017, 06:34:06 PM
wentz is a repug zealot....but thats not even what i was talking about this time...per usual my supreme mathematics flew over the heads of the devils...my point was roob said how he was the opposite of a zealot then listed 17 reasons why hes a zealot...who is the editor over at csn philly?
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Rome on September 08, 2017, 06:50:36 PM
I think his definition of the word differs from yours. 

I've known people who were intensely devoted to their faith.  Buddhists, Christians, Muslims, Jews...you name it.   They weren't zealots.  Zealots, in my view, do harm because of their faith, or frankly, in the case of militant atheists, because of their lack of it. 

Wentz is a brainwashed middle American white boy who luvs him some Jesus.  I'd rather have to put up with a guy like that than some wife beating piece of shtein.
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: ice grillin you on September 08, 2017, 06:57:07 PM
Quote from: Rome on September 08, 2017, 06:50:36 PM
Wentz is a brainwashed middle American white boy who luvs him some Jesus.  I'd rather have to put up with a guy like that than some wife beating piece of shtein.

id rather have neither but people can justify anything as long as their qb wins
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Rome on September 08, 2017, 07:04:48 PM
I would also rather have neither. 
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on September 08, 2017, 07:15:44 PM
Havas gonna be rockin a Kelly green #1 jersey with AO on the back
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Sgt PSN on September 08, 2017, 09:22:48 PM
Buddy Ryan is havas' AO1.
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Sgt PSN on September 21, 2017, 02:34:10 PM
Phreak be writing love letters, yo.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B3XiBuaZnsTmczI4NUtISE9WRGs/view?usp=drivesdk
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: ice grillin you on September 21, 2017, 03:47:11 PM
lol...if it wasnt a kids handwriting it would be 100% believable...unless jay purposely wrote it like a kid to throw us off
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: hunt on September 21, 2017, 07:01:56 PM
Quote from: Sgt PSN on September 21, 2017, 02:34:10 PM
Phreak be writing love letters, yo.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B3XiBuaZnsTmczI4NUtISE9WRGs/view?usp=drivesdk

dammit...you beat me to it!  :boom
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: hunt on September 21, 2017, 07:02:36 PM
(http://i1204.photobucket.com/albums/bb415/etrain1234/Mobile%20Uploads/FB_IMG_1506034691120.jpg) (http://s1204.photobucket.com/user/etrain1234/media/Mobile%20Uploads/FB_IMG_1506034691120.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on September 21, 2017, 07:25:14 PM
Damn you fargers...I'm a special olympian now?!
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Sgt PSN on September 21, 2017, 07:28:39 PM
Haha.
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: SD on September 21, 2017, 09:42:19 PM
Reminds me of the Mac letter to Chase Utley
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Diomedes on September 25, 2017, 08:16:04 PM
Three games in, not a live minute of them have I seen, how does Wentz look?

I'm not feeling great about what I've read and the highlights so far don't feature him.
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Eagles_Legendz on September 25, 2017, 08:17:35 PM
He was pretty bad this week. 

He's been good 10-15 yards but can't throw accurately down field.
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Eagaholic on September 30, 2017, 04:02:02 AM
Wentz confirms he will keep his word and give his paycheck to a charity of Jake Elliott's choice. In a perfect world that would be Elliott's church of satanic worship where he made a pact to kick that FG. And nobody could protest Elliott doing that because of his faust amendment rights.
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Rome on September 30, 2017, 09:00:47 AM
Quotefaust

Oh no you d'int. 

Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Eagaholic on September 30, 2017, 12:27:27 PM
Nope unintended.

But the kick did happen on their last possession.
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: hbionic on September 30, 2017, 05:15:00 PM
Standing golf clap. You never cease to amaze me my friend. Eagaholic, never stop.
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Eagaholic on October 01, 2017, 01:59:23 AM
Thanks Chuggie, although you realize others would curse you for encouraging me. And after the faust pun would like me take my doofus highbrow humor and goethe farg out of here.
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Rome on October 01, 2017, 09:26:11 AM
A++++++++++
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Eagaholic on October 01, 2017, 11:24:38 AM
I suppose we should get this thread back from Wentz it came.
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: ice grillin you on October 02, 2017, 06:19:06 PM
dope

http://www.phillymag.com/news/2017/10/02/carson-wentz-responds-vegas-mass-shooting-world-needs-jesus/?amp=1
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Rome on October 02, 2017, 06:27:30 PM
Did you really expect him to say anything different?  I agree that it's amazingly tone deaf and gross but it's not unexpected. 
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Diomedes on October 02, 2017, 06:37:37 PM
I'm not gonna read that but I'll go so far as to say we def. need more love, more generosity of spirit, more acceptance of others.  If Jesus is for that, great.
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on October 02, 2017, 07:27:59 PM
igy has a google alert set for Wentz AO1 Jesus and likes to tell us about it

Dude will win a SB and thank Jesus and get the gas face from igy
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Rome on October 02, 2017, 07:37:26 PM
Like he'd watch the Eagles with AO1 in the big game. 
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: General_Failure on October 02, 2017, 07:38:06 PM
Oh, you want him to win one with the Eagles, too?
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: smeags on October 06, 2017, 12:29:55 PM
(https://scontent-ams3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/22195600_862852797226265_3748083436416978522_n.png?oh=d0b188247060a474117590199648cdac&oe=5A3E4F9D)
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Tomahawk on October 06, 2017, 12:48:48 PM
MA AF
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: QB Eagles on October 06, 2017, 12:49:10 PM
seems legit
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: smeags on October 06, 2017, 12:50:50 PM
total photoshop - it popped up with an ad on my FB feed. im sure the company got AO1's permission to use his likeness.  :-D
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: General_Failure on October 06, 2017, 01:10:24 PM
I wish I could make out what the blurred parts say.
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: MDS on October 06, 2017, 01:29:28 PM
seen those types of things pop up for "we stand for the anthem" shirts with crosses behind the wording. whoever is doing this isnt even trying but yet fooling rubes. sounds like 2016.
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: General_Failure on October 08, 2017, 05:52:55 PM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DLoLdvjVwAAzn7h.jpg)
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Sgt PSN on October 08, 2017, 06:23:15 PM
If he really believed in Jesus he'd be wearing some sort of athletic sandal. 
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Geowhizzer on October 08, 2017, 08:20:55 PM
Didinger waxing poetic on Wentz' third down prowess. (http://www.nbcsports.com/philadelphia/video/ray-didinger-carson-wentz-took-it-whole-different-level-3rd-down?ls=social-vid)
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Don Ho on October 08, 2017, 09:59:47 PM
Quote from: Sgt PSN on October 08, 2017, 06:23:15 PM
If he really believed in Jesus he'd be wearing some sort of athletic sandal.

LMFAO  :-D :-D
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on October 22, 2017, 12:47:06 PM
https://www.youtube.com/embed/InV6ZzFThX0

Jeez...just a little dusty in here
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Butchers Bill on October 22, 2017, 07:22:43 PM
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on October 22, 2017, 12:47:06 PM
https://www.youtube.com/embed/InV6ZzFThX0

Jeez...just a little dusty in here

Tough watch.
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Eagles_Legendz on October 23, 2017, 02:04:11 PM
I'm pretty unsentimental but that got to me.
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: QB Eagles on October 23, 2017, 06:47:30 PM
Yeah I typically hate sappy tearjerker Mitch Albom style sports journalism, but farg that was brutal.
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: SD on October 23, 2017, 08:08:32 PM
I watched the video earlier. They just showed it again on ESPN...had to turn it off. Poor kid.
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Diomedes on October 23, 2017, 08:16:09 PM
First time I've seen MNF this year.  What a shtein show.
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Eagles_Legendz on October 24, 2017, 12:42:20 AM
So this guy could be OK
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Rome on October 24, 2017, 03:08:37 AM
The first few pages of this thread are super.

🤔
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: SD on October 24, 2017, 04:44:54 AM
Quote from: AO1 on April 21, 2016, 07:22:51 AM
After sleeping on this deal, farg it, I'm all in. Bradford isn't leading the Eagles to a SB. We've been spinning our wheels looking for a steady QB since Mcnabb left. I've watched/read/listened to as much as possible (both negative and positive) on Wentz enough to think the guy could be a top 10 QB. He's smart, big, fast, has a big arm, has intangibles, he's a perfect QB specimen. I'd be more worried about the jump from 1AA to the NFL if he was getting thrown into the fire. He gets to sit and learn for a season, which will be huge. If the guy turns into a top 10 QB the picks they gave up are irrelevant. You aren't winning a SB without a stud QB. Sure a team like the Broncos comes along with a dominant D every now and again, but that's not the norm.

So again, farg it, I'm 100% in.

This guy farging nailed it. Kudos my man.
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Rome on October 24, 2017, 08:35:42 AM
Aside from the whole "he gets to sit a whole season", yep, you nailed it.

PS:  I thought you'd be bigger. 
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: smeags on October 24, 2017, 09:05:03 AM
Quote from: smeags on April 22, 2016, 09:32:59 AM
Quote from: smeags on April 21, 2016, 03:14:31 PM
gonna be a spring & summer of bleeding vags around here.

I was right, and now look, everyone is happy in the merry land of carson city.
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: phattymatty on October 24, 2017, 09:18:43 AM
ive been whistling the garbshotz theme music all morning.
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Rome on October 24, 2017, 09:34:26 AM
Quote from: smeags on October 24, 2017, 09:05:03 AM
Quote from: smeags on April 22, 2016, 09:32:59 AM
Quote from: smeags on April 21, 2016, 03:14:31 PM
gonna be a spring & summer of bleeding vags around here.

I was right, and now look, everyone is happy in the merry land of carson city.

Haha.  So true. 

The Eagles might have an embarrassing history when it comes to winning Super Bowls, (or anything else for that matter) but even our clowns can spot a franchise quarterback when they see one. 

First it was McNabb after the Browns took Couch and now it's Wentz after Cleveland got too cute for their own good. 

He was completely ridiculous last night.
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Rome on November 02, 2017, 10:53:33 AM
Player Of The Month

http://www.nbcsports.com/philadelphia/eagles/carson-wentz-named-nfc-offensive-player-month-october
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Eagaholic on November 02, 2017, 01:08:10 PM
Nice. Jalen Mills was also named defensive player of the week.
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: ice grillin you on November 02, 2017, 07:49:00 PM
zealot recognize zealot

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DNpSlscUMAUyNbB.jpg)
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Tomahawk on November 02, 2017, 09:58:17 PM
Hopefully he doesn't inspire Wentz to drown his kid
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: QB Eagles on November 02, 2017, 10:06:25 PM
Wentz is Madalyn Murray O'Hair compared to Randall these days.
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: hbionic on November 02, 2017, 10:20:59 PM
Quote from: Tomahawk on November 02, 2017, 09:58:17 PM
Hopefully he doesn't inspire Wentz to drown his kid


That was horrible.

:cfhead :cfhead :cfhead :cfhead :cfhead
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Don Ho on November 04, 2017, 03:48:30 AM
Quote from: Tomahawk on November 02, 2017, 09:58:17 PM
Hopefully he doesn't inspire Wentz to drown his kid

you icehole, I farging laughed but you ass.
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Cthulhu on November 04, 2017, 07:19:47 AM
randalls daughter, vashti, was the youngest high jumper in the summer olympics. unfortunatly she didn't make the first jump.

https://www.reviewjournal.com/sports/olympics/las-vegan-vashti-cunningham-fails-to-medal-in-olympic-high-jump/ (https://www.reviewjournal.com/sports/olympics/las-vegan-vashti-cunningham-fails-to-medal-in-olympic-high-jump/)

(http://kalamu.com/neogriot/wp-content/uploads/2016/03/vashti-01.jpg)
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: ice grillin you on November 06, 2017, 08:14:13 AM
first rewatch of the game right now....it was more amazing in person but holy shtein some of the throws this guys  makes are just awesome...the windows hes putting the ball in right now are so impressive
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: SD on November 06, 2017, 08:34:48 AM
I rewatched the first half this morning. The impact of having a back like Ajayi cannot be understated. That long run against the top d is going to stick in the minds of dc's. Just having him on the field kept d's honest.

What's amazing is Wentz's top target didn't play and the offense didn't miss a beat. Been saying this for a few years now but Burton needs to be a bigger part of the offense.
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Rome on November 06, 2017, 08:47:35 AM
Ajayi's first three plays he was used as a decoy.  That right there tells you how much opposing DC's think of him.

I don't know how this is gonna turn out but holy shtein he sure looks like a massive pickup by Howie Magic.   
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Rome on November 22, 2017, 08:18:54 PM
(http://a.espncdn.com/i/insider/insidermagindex/mag_11232017_1230x1591.jpg)

Sweet Jesus NO. 
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: ice grillin you on November 22, 2017, 08:20:20 PM
its only going to get worse
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Rome on November 22, 2017, 08:36:25 PM
The article that went with it was awful.  I mean reallly bad.  Thanks for the jinx too, iceholes. 
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: ice grillin you on November 22, 2017, 08:38:57 PM
lil guy will think its the coolest thing ever
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: General_Failure on November 22, 2017, 08:44:27 PM
I can't believe they shaved Garfield and put him in a Wentz jersey.
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: QB Eagles on November 22, 2017, 09:19:49 PM
Quote"He seems like a guy that could be living in a row house in Kensington," Didinger says.

I spent a lot of my youth in a row house in Kensington. I've also been to rural North Dakota.

I can report unequivocally that Carson Wentz seems much more like a guy that could be living in rural North Dakota.
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on November 22, 2017, 09:34:07 PM
Yeah lol at Wentz being a Kenzo

I guess he'd hunt stray cats?
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: ice grillin you on November 22, 2017, 09:41:14 PM
kensington is the hipster capital of philly...not saying that pos zealot belongs anywhere in the city cause he doesnt...south jersey he should stay but trust me kenzo has not been what you think it is for a good 15 years
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Eagles_Legendz on November 22, 2017, 09:45:56 PM
wgaf
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on November 22, 2017, 09:46:11 PM
Yeah can't say I've been there since prob the early 2000s.

If it's hipster central now lil guy prob has some babip/vorp buddies who live there and like rosemary flavored IPAs
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: ice grillin you on November 22, 2017, 09:49:47 PM
yeah its becoming super gentrified and has arguably the best restaurants in the city
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: SD on November 22, 2017, 10:28:22 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on November 22, 2017, 09:41:14 PM
kensington is the hipster capital of philly

It's still a shteinhole. My buddy died from an overdose there in August.
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: ice grillin you on November 22, 2017, 10:52:43 PM
oh that settles it....thanks for letting everyone know
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: MDS on November 22, 2017, 11:30:39 PM
i think youre confusing kenzo with fishtown

parts of kenzo are gentrified and full of hipsters...there are some good places there...but all in all its a drug den
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: SD on November 22, 2017, 11:41:37 PM
Quote from: MDS on November 22, 2017, 11:30:39 PM
i think youre confusing kenzo with fishtown

parts of kenzo are gentrified and full of hipsters...there are some good places there...but all in all its a drug den

Bingo

I'm plowing a girl who lives in fish town. Her house is on the market for $300,000. Kensington is still the same shteinhole it's always been. I used to work at my uncles shop on Frankford ave about a mile from K&A in the mid 90's before I went into the navy. It's gotten much worse drug wise. Heroin use is out of control. There's a few hamsterdams.
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Rome on November 23, 2017, 06:50:07 AM
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on November 22, 2017, 09:46:11 PM
Yeah can't say I've been there since prob the early 2000s.

If it's hipster central now lil guy prob has some babip/vorp buddies who live there and like rosemary flavored IPAs

lmbo
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: ice grillin you on November 24, 2017, 08:30:50 AM
Quote from: MDS on November 22, 2017, 11:30:39 PM
i think youre confusing kenzo with fishtown

nope....fishtown too tho

kenzo has...

the malthouse
bait n switch
cook and shaker
cafe pho
dinner house

and im sure im forgetting a bunch
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: SD on November 24, 2017, 09:15:45 AM
"A Hidden Hellscape, I questioned if I was still in the US"
http://www.philly.com/philly/health/addiction/A_hidden_heroin_hellscape.html?mobi=true

"Once the Cathedral of Kensington, now a heroin shooting gallery"
http://www.philly.com/philly/columnists/mike_newall/the-cathedral-of-kenzo-now-a-shooting-gallery-20170707.html?mobi=true

"From this rooftop, Philly heroin crisis comes into focus"
http://www.philly.com/philly/columnists/mike_newall/from-this-rooftop-philly-heroin-crisis-comes-into-focus-20170630.html?mobi=true

"Hooked and hustling heroin: A couple's life in Kensington"
http://www.philly.com/philly/columnists/mike_newall/kensington-couple-opioid-heroin-addiction.html?mobi=true

"Closing Down a Notorious Heroin Camp in Philadelphia"
https://www.theatlantic.com/photo/2017/08/closing-down-a-notorious-heroin-camp-in-philadelphia/536232/

"The Loved Ones Guide to Heroin and other Drugs in Kensington"
http://www.malverninstitute.com/the-loved-ones-guide-to-heroin-other-drugs-in-kensington-philadelphia/

"Inside A Notorious Philadelphia Drug Market Before It Gets Shut Down"
http://time.com/4868823/philadelphia-campamento-cleanup/

"Philly, Conrail Reach Deal Clean Up Notorious Heroin Encampment Along Trench in Kensington"
https://www.nbcphiladelphia.com/news/local/Conrail-Gurney-Street-Drug-Tracks-428680533.html

"Heroin hellscape, Kensington Philadelphia
https://youtu.be/k2PUYVBU7aM

"Heroin: Surviving Kensington, Philadelphia"
https://youtu.be/HqAgL1Mri0s

"Where Delaware gets its Heroin"
http://www.delawareonline.com/story/insider/2017/04/20/delaware-heroin-philadelphia-badlands/100575628/

"The Heroin tour guide of Kensington Philadelphia's Drug Epidemic"
http://www.centercityrecovery.com/kensington-philadelphia-drug-epidemic/

"Philadelphia's Kensington Avenue: Heroin, Prostitution, and No Police"
https://www.thedailybeast.com/philadelphias-kensington-avenue-heroin-prostitution-and-no-police

"Dr. Oz criticized for airing show on Philadelphia heroin encampment"
http://lancasteronline.com/news/local/dr-oz-criticized-for-airing-show-on-philadelphia-heroin-encampment/article_bab7824e-250e-11e7-93f6-63ce97d64eaa.html

"A dark corner of America: Photographs show Philadelphia's seedy, drug-fueled underbelly and its inhabitants' struggle to survive"
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2140221/A-dark-corner-America-Photographs-seedy-drug-fueled-underbelly-Philadelphia.html

"Democrats aren't the only tourists flocking to Philadelphia. So are heroin addicts"
http://www.latimes.com/politics/la-na-heroin-philly-20160719-snap-story.html

"Hundreds to march through Kensington to fight opioid addiction stigma"
https://billypenn.com/2017/08/30/hundreds-to-march-through-kensington-to-fight-opioid-addiction-stigma/

Time magazine, Nat Geo, and Dr. farging Oz did specials on Kensington because it's such a shteinhole. It's worse than Camden.





Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: ice grillin you on November 24, 2017, 09:36:12 AM
welcome to 1994
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: SD on November 24, 2017, 09:48:48 AM
Most of the articles are from July
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: ice grillin you on November 24, 2017, 10:06:37 AM
its obviously not beverly hills but its not the kenzo of our youth either....its changed almost one thousand percent
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: SD on November 24, 2017, 10:31:30 AM
It's worse now. I drove through Kensington a few months ago, there's more hookers and junkies than there were in the 90's. They found my buddy dead in an alley, his car a few blocks away. They think he od'd in a drug haven then someone drug his body to an alley so there would be no issues with the junkies hangout. Just because they threw up a bunch of trendy bars doesn't mean the neighborhoods gotten better. Mid 90's we used to associate Fishtown, Port Richmond and Northern Liberties with Kensington. Those neighborhoods have all undergone a massive overhaul and resurgence. Northern Liberties might be the most hipster place on Earth. If they can clean up the drugs in Kensington - which they're well on their way - than there's hope. But as of today it's a disgrace.

https://www.nbcphiladelphia.com/news/local/PBJ-New-21M-Project-Planned-for-Kensington-442246913.html
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: ice grillin you on November 24, 2017, 10:36:15 AM
you obviously have legit reasons to be jaded but you are wrong
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: SD on November 24, 2017, 10:40:12 AM
I provided articles with pictures and videos, my first hand account, and an example of someone I know who died there a few months ago...you've provided the names of a few hipster bars.

Anyway, let's go Flyers. Strength and honor.
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: ice grillin you on November 24, 2017, 10:41:58 AM
ive been there probably a dozen times in the last two years.....ill believe me over an article

also sorry for your loss....no homo
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: QB Eagles on November 24, 2017, 10:58:14 AM
My mom grew up a block south of K&A and that whole side of my family is mostly still in there. I've spent a lot of time there over the last 35 years.

Kensington, Port Richmond, and Fishtown are three separate things. Everything east of Lehigh and south of Frankford is Port Richmond, which has always been a Polish neighborhood that is fine and is getting better.

Kensington is split by the railroad tracks (Lehigh Viaduct). The area west of the tracks is only a few blocks wide and stretches down to Fishtown. That's the part that is gentrifying (though not as fast as Fishtown itself).

The bigger part is wedged between the Lehigh Viaduct and the tracks where that Amtrak train derailed. It's mostly Latin, devastated by meth in the 90s and heroin today, contains open air drug and prostitution markets, and has not improved whatsoever in the last 30 years.
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Geowhizzer on November 24, 2017, 11:06:28 AM
Let's get this thread back on track...

(https://image.spreadshirtmedia.com/image-server/v1/mp/compositions/P1013210419MPC1021802953/views/1,width=300,height=300,appearanceId=2,backgroundColor=E8E8E8,version=1485256808/ginger-jesus-t-shirts-men-s-t-shirt.jpg)
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: QB Eagles on November 24, 2017, 11:15:02 AM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DPXllIiWsAAL8C3.jpg:large)
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: SD on November 24, 2017, 11:30:47 AM
They showed some charity Wentz does through his AO1 organization on Sportsnet this morning. Has to do with trained dogs who assist the disabled. It was him and his gf. I know this has been discussed before, but he's hitting that shtein. Religion or not his tapping that ass.
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: ice grillin you on November 24, 2017, 12:09:11 PM
if you are old enough to vote and are in that picture you voted trump
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: General_Failure on November 24, 2017, 12:11:22 PM
North Dakota 20 is like regular 40. Yikes.
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on November 24, 2017, 12:17:50 PM
Hello Mrs Hicks
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: QB Eagles on November 24, 2017, 12:19:40 PM
Quote from: General_Failure on November 24, 2017, 12:11:22 PM
North Dakota 20 is like regular 40. Yikes.

Nate Sudfeld looks 17 though.
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Rome on November 24, 2017, 05:50:41 PM
Mrs Ertz would get taken to # town. 
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Sgt PSN on November 24, 2017, 06:19:03 PM
Wtf is hashtag town?

#millenialproblems
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Diomedes on November 24, 2017, 06:26:25 PM
that house is ugly
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: MDS on November 24, 2017, 06:34:20 PM
nate sudefield wearing a hoodie to thanksgiving dinner is upsetting me
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on November 24, 2017, 07:06:21 PM
Quote from: Diomedes on November 24, 2017, 06:26:25 PM
that house is ugly
m

Definitely an ugly door
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: General_Failure on November 24, 2017, 07:42:12 PM
Quote from: Sgt PSN on November 24, 2017, 06:19:03 PM
Wtf is hashtag town?

#millenialproblems

That's an octothorpe, dummy.
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Sgt PSN on November 24, 2017, 07:45:57 PM
Seems like a strange place to take a lady.
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: SD on November 24, 2017, 08:29:44 PM
Quote from: Sgt PSN on November 24, 2017, 06:19:03 PM
Wtf is hashtag town?

#millenialproblems

(https://i.pinimg.com/474x/29/f4/a1/29f4a183585520c3f0d2a0dbbb794682--ticket-do-you.jpg)
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Sgt PSN on November 24, 2017, 08:38:37 PM
Ok.  Bad joke I guess.  I lose. 
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Sgt PSN on November 24, 2017, 08:43:59 PM
Was in a mall store that sells goofy t-shirts...spencer, pac sun, something like that.  Anyway, my youngest daughter grabs a t-shirt off the rack that says I # Beer and she's like "Dad, I don't get it."  I asked her what she didn't understand and she says "What does I hashtag beer mean?"

I think she was like 15 at the time.  Had no clue it was referred to as a pound sign for several decades before hashtag became a thing.   
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Geowhizzer on November 25, 2017, 09:06:39 AM
Fined $9,115 for the "low block" on DeMarcus Lawrence last week. (http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2017/11/24/carson-wentz-fined-9115-for-low-block/)
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: smeags on November 27, 2017, 10:20:53 AM
Quote from: Geowhizzer on November 25, 2017, 09:06:39 AM
Fined $9,115 for the "low block" on DeMarcus Lawrence last week. (http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2017/11/24/carson-wentz-fined-9115-for-low-block/)

AO1 already paid it for him.
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: shorebird on November 29, 2017, 11:36:33 AM
Wentz is the only qb in the league who hasn't thrown a int. or been sacked in the red zone.
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: smeags on November 29, 2017, 11:43:08 AM
still aint no dak prescott though.

/sarcasm
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Sgt PSN on November 29, 2017, 11:47:41 AM
Quote from: shorebird on November 29, 2017, 11:36:33 AM
Wentz is the only qb in the league who hasn't thrown a int. or been sacked in the red zone.

False. He's a ginger, so no matter where he gets sacked or throws a pick, it's still the red zone.
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: shorebird on November 29, 2017, 11:49:54 AM
Lol! Prescott is in a crash and burn dive right now. Last 5 games 0 tds. and 5 ints. Don't care if he lost one of the leagues best rushers, he still has a probowl WR and TE. Theres all kinds of talent on that offense and right now he sucks.
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: smeags on November 29, 2017, 11:51:03 AM
Quote from: Sgt PSN on November 29, 2017, 11:47:41 AM
Quote from: shorebird on November 29, 2017, 11:36:33 AM
Wentz is the only qb in the league who hasn't thrown a int. or been sacked in the red zone.

False. He's a ginger, so no matter where he gets sacked or throws a pick, it's still the red zone.


but he never gets up gingerly.
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: shorebird on November 29, 2017, 11:52:33 AM
Quote from: Sgt PSN on November 29, 2017, 11:47:41 AM
Quote from: shorebird on November 29, 2017, 11:36:33 AM
Wentz is the only qb in the league who hasn't thrown a int. or been sacked in the red zone.

False. He's a ginger, so no matter where he gets sacked or throws a pick, it's still the red zone.

Oh, (ginger) Snap!!
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: ice grillin you on November 29, 2017, 12:06:35 PM
Quote from: shorebird on November 29, 2017, 11:49:54 AM
he still has a probowl WR and TE.

double false
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: shorebird on November 29, 2017, 12:13:19 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on November 29, 2017, 12:06:35 PM
Quote from: shorebird on November 29, 2017, 11:49:54 AM
he still has a probowl WR and TE.

double false
Please explain.

Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: smeags on November 29, 2017, 12:20:18 PM
probably pointing out the fact that neither are doing shtein this season which would have zero to do with the qb's play.
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Sgt PSN on November 29, 2017, 12:20:29 PM
Witten is a dinosaur and hasn't been to a pro bowl since 2014. Dez, for some reason got it last year with 50 catches in 13 games, but he really hasn't been anything special in a few years either.
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: shorebird on November 29, 2017, 12:26:15 PM
I'd still take Bryant on this team in a heartbeat. Got 53 recepts. for over 500 yds. and over 10 yd. avg. not too shabby.

edit: 578 to be exact.

But yeah Whitten is on his way out.
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: ice grillin you on November 29, 2017, 12:29:59 PM
so hes basically nelson agholar
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: smeags on November 29, 2017, 12:33:00 PM
oh boy, here we go.
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Sgt PSN on November 29, 2017, 12:35:39 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on November 29, 2017, 12:29:59 PM
so hes basically nelson agholar

Lol. I wouldn't go that far. Dez does have some all world talent and he flashes it just often enough to remind defensive coordinators that he could actually destroy their secondary even though he probably won't.  He's weird.
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: ice grillin you on November 29, 2017, 12:41:31 PM
dez would be fine as someones WR3....or even a WR2 on a team that had other pass catching weapons....as a 1 on a team like dallas hes really bad....his catch % is ungodly awful
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Eagaholic on November 29, 2017, 12:59:02 PM
Bryant is a hot head idiot. For years apologists have tried to explain him away as "passionate" or a "competitor." Other than Wentz, the best thing this team has going for it is it's chemistry and Bryant would be the worst thing for that. I wouldn't want him at a vet minimum. 
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: shorebird on November 29, 2017, 04:05:57 PM
My point, as to Smeags's sarcasm, is Wentz is doing 10 times more than Dak is with whats supposed to be less.
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: shorebird on November 29, 2017, 04:06:38 PM
Quote from: Eagaholic on November 29, 2017, 12:59:02 PM
Bryant is a hot head idiot. For years apologists have tried to explain him away as "passionate" or a "competitor." Other than Wentz, the best thing this team has going for it is it's chemistry and Bryant would be the worst thing for that. I wouldn't want him at a vet minimum. 

When you look at it that way you change my mind and give me flashbacks of T.O.
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: ice grillin you on November 29, 2017, 07:30:05 PM
Quote from: shorebird on November 29, 2017, 04:05:57 PM
My point, as to Smeags's sarcasm, is Wentz is doing 10 times more than Dak is with whats supposed to be less.

its not close to less....dallas without zeke has complete garbage offensive weapons....dallas even with zeke doesnt have as much as the eagles...dez is not good and witten is toast
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on November 29, 2017, 07:37:59 PM
BUT THEY HAVE RINGZZZZZZZZZZZZ
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: ice grillin you on November 29, 2017, 07:51:22 PM
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on November 29, 2017, 07:37:59 PM
BUT THEY HAVE RINGZZZZZZZZZZZZ

5-0

which is slightly more important than having the better offensive weapons in 2017
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Rome on December 10, 2017, 10:35:37 AM
QuoteWentz: "It was a crazy whirlwind. You're playing every scenario in your head. Trying not to, but you naturally are. But at the end of the day, wouldn't trade it for the world where I ended up."

❤️
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on December 10, 2017, 07:55:37 PM
Eagles are concerned QB Carson Wentz tore his left ACL, per source.

Gonna need Havas to say a prayer and do some kinda sacrifice here
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: MDS on December 10, 2017, 07:59:51 PM
just hope hes healthy for day 1 of camp
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on December 10, 2017, 08:03:57 PM
I'm talking myself into this

Foles isn't awful.
Three good RBs
Strong defense

Gonna hope Schefter is wrong but saw a video clip where his knee buckled and that's bad.
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: ice grillin you on December 10, 2017, 08:10:28 PM
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on December 10, 2017, 08:03:57 PM
I'm talking myself into this

of course you are
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: MDS on December 10, 2017, 08:12:02 PM
foles beats wilson, brees and brady and the parade down broad st starts in houston

Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on December 10, 2017, 08:35:53 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on December 10, 2017, 08:10:28 PM
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on December 10, 2017, 08:03:57 PM
I'm talking myself into this

of course you are

And you're coming along for the ride
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: ice grillin you on December 10, 2017, 08:37:40 PM
OUT
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on December 10, 2017, 08:39:27 PM
See you at Christmas. Crack juice?
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: ice grillin you on December 10, 2017, 08:43:17 PM
i wasnt going on christmas before this unless it meant something....100% OUT now
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on December 10, 2017, 08:45:26 PM
My heart is broken
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: SD on December 10, 2017, 08:54:30 PM
QuoteCarson Wentz just rode out of the visitors' locker room on a golf cart, wearing a black knee brace on his left leg and an NFC East champions hat. He got off the cart and walked slowly to the team bus.
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: ice grillin you on December 10, 2017, 08:58:04 PM
Quote from: AO1 on December 10, 2017, 08:54:30 PM
QuoteCarson Wentz just rode out of the visitors' locker room on a golf cart, wearing a black knee brace on his left leg and an NFC East champions hat. He got off the cart and walked slowly to the team bus.

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DQus1IMUQAAPkM7.jpg)
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on December 10, 2017, 08:59:55 PM
http://www.sandiegouniontribune.com/sports/profootballdoc/sd-sp-pfd-carson-wentz-knee-injury-1210-story,amp.html?__twitter_impression=true
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: ice grillin you on December 10, 2017, 09:05:43 PM
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on December 10, 2017, 08:59:55 PM
http://www.sandiegouniontribune.com/sports/profootballdoc/sd-sp-pfd-carson-wentz-knee-injury-1210-story,amp.html?__twitter_impression=true

Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on December 10, 2017, 08:03:57 PM
I'm talking myself into this
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on December 10, 2017, 09:07:01 PM
Yeah into them making a run without AO1
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: ice grillin you on December 10, 2017, 09:12:21 PM
lemme know how that turns out
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: ice grillin you on December 10, 2017, 09:16:58 PM
talk ramping up that he might not be completely ready for the start of next season
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: SD on December 10, 2017, 09:20:52 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on December 10, 2017, 09:16:58 PM
talk ramping up that he might not be completely ready for the start of next season

Sources say amputation below the knee a real possibility
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Eagaholic on December 10, 2017, 09:21:39 PM
Reggie White badly hyperextended his knee and against all medical odds Jesus got him ready for the next game. I think he should be able to do at least something for Carson, maybe surgery this week and ready for the SB.
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: ice grillin you on December 10, 2017, 09:24:30 PM
fully torn acl and possible lcl is surgery....this will take him easily into next summer

if there was a god he wouldnt have let him get hurt in the first place

ACL > AO1
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Sgt PSN on December 10, 2017, 09:34:32 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on December 10, 2017, 09:24:30 PM
if there was a god he wouldnt have let him get hurt in the first place

It's all part of His plan.

Doesn't that make you feel better?
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Geowhizzer on December 10, 2017, 09:36:18 PM
Funeral is Tuesday.
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: QB Eagles on December 10, 2017, 09:36:46 PM
I've watched enough late night UHF TV to know that all it takes is some snake handling or some old white guy to lay hands on his knee, and he should be fine. That's just one of the side benefits of believing in Jesus.
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: QB Eagles on December 10, 2017, 09:38:01 PM
Quote from: Geowhizzer on December 10, 2017, 09:36:18 PM
Funeral is Tuesday.

They are burying him next to Embiid.
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: MDS on December 10, 2017, 09:40:14 PM
schefter says his acl was "loose" when tested

well thats nice
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: SD on December 10, 2017, 09:40:16 PM
Quote from: Geowhizzer on December 10, 2017, 09:36:18 PM
Funeral is Tuesday.

Hurst

https://youtu.be/QQsEYLeDwUo
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: SD on December 10, 2017, 09:51:35 PM
Quote
Carson Wentz
Twitter › cj_wentz
NFC East Champs! So proud of the resiliency of this team. Such a special group of men. And I greatly appreciate all the prayers! I know my God is a powerful one with a perfect plan. Time to just lean in to him and trust whatever the circumstances! #Proverbs3:5-6
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: MDS on December 10, 2017, 09:58:57 PM
change your screen name marginasi
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: General_Failure on December 10, 2017, 09:59:43 PM
I'll never forget where I was when I found out Wentz's career was over.
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on December 10, 2017, 10:03:33 PM
Where's the talk of him not being ready for next season? Other than from Doc Havas
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: General_Failure on December 10, 2017, 10:04:49 PM
Carson Wentz is dead. Phreak. You're going to have to come to terms with it. We're here for you, buddy. Just let it out.
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on December 10, 2017, 10:14:27 PM
Hold me.

Can Foles reprise the role of Koy?!
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: General_Failure on December 10, 2017, 10:21:55 PM
Foles is a hall of fame QB that looked like ass under Jeff Fisher. Goff was a number one overall draft pick who looked like ass under Jeff Fisher, and is now on his way to a hall of fame career.

Basically, it's all 7 TD games from here on out.
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: ice grillin you on December 10, 2017, 10:25:11 PM
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on December 10, 2017, 10:14:27 PM
Hold me.

Can Foles reprise the role of Koy?!


koy detmer was terrible
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: General_Failure on December 10, 2017, 10:26:57 PM
You shut your filthy whore mouth.
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: MDS on December 10, 2017, 10:27:29 PM
this is gonna be like the sproles injury where it turns out not only did he tear his acl, but his arm is broken and ribs are cracked

QuoteThe #Eagles believe QB Carson Wentz injured his ACL today vs #Rams, but initial tests don't definitively show a complete tear, sources say. MRI tomorrow will tell the story. They're not giving up hope.
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on December 10, 2017, 10:29:59 PM
Now that is really from Rapoport

Not fakeRap

Please please please
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on December 10, 2017, 10:30:23 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on December 10, 2017, 10:25:11 PM
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on December 10, 2017, 10:14:27 PM
Hold me.

Can Foles reprise the role of Koy?!


koy detmer was terrible

How about AJ?!
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Geowhizzer on December 10, 2017, 10:31:37 PM
I'd be OK if he could conjure up some 2013 Nicky Six.
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: MDS on December 10, 2017, 10:33:30 PM
i just googled partial acl tear and the recovery time is 3 months....thats march. hell be back for the tournament.
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: SD on December 10, 2017, 10:38:07 PM
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on December 10, 2017, 10:29:59 PM
Now that is really from Rapoport

Not fakeRap

Please please please

Quote
Adam Schefter
Twitter › AdamSchefter
Carson Wentz's ACL was loose when it was tested manually today, which is why team fears it's torn; Wentz is scheduled to undergo an MRI in Philadelphia on Monday, per source.


Carson 18:33-43

33 they will flog him and kill him. On the third day he will rise again."

34 The disciples did not understand any of this. Its meaning was hidden from them, and they did not know what he was talking about.
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on December 10, 2017, 10:39:55 PM
Quote from: AO1 on December 10, 2017, 10:38:07 PM
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on December 10, 2017, 10:29:59 PM
Now that is really from Rapoport

Not fakeRap

Please please please

Quote
Adam Schefter
Twitter › AdamSchefter
Carson Wentz's ACL was loose when it was tested manually today, which is why team fears it's torn; Wentz is scheduled to undergo an MRI in Philadelphia on Monday, per source.


Carson 18:33-43

33 they will flog him and kill him. On the third day he will rise again."

34 The disciples did not understand any of this. Its meaning was hidden from them, and they did not know what he was talking about.

Cool so he says he will rise on Wednesday and be good
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Eagaholic on December 10, 2017, 10:51:18 PM
Quote from: General_Failure on December 10, 2017, 09:59:43 PM
I'll never forget where I was when I found out Wentz's career was over.
Yeah, you don't forget a draft like that.
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: General_Failure on December 10, 2017, 10:52:30 PM
In a slightly darker timeline, he was drafted by the Browns.
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Eagaholic on December 10, 2017, 10:57:14 PM
Wtf happened to Wiz? How well Foles can play means less than zero if Seumalo  and V are next to each other. Nothing but bad happens with Seumalo in, except very bad.
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Eagaholic on December 10, 2017, 11:02:42 PM
Quote from: General_Failure on December 10, 2017, 10:52:30 PM
In a slightly darker timeline, he was drafted by the Browns.
What will be more interesting than how the Goff/Wentz thing plays out, is the Eagles curse vs how the Browns reverse curse of giving Wentz to Howie plays out.
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Tomahawk on December 11, 2017, 12:33:50 AM
Quote from: AO1 on December 10, 2017, 09:51:35 PM
Quote
Carson Wentz
Twitter › cj_wentz
NFC East Champs! So proud of the resiliency of this team. Such a special group of men. And I greatly appreciate all the prayers! I know my God is a powerful one with a perfect plan. Time to just lean in to him and trust whatever the circumstances! #Proverbs3:5-6

(http://img.heartlight.org/overlazy/creations/337.jpg)

Not bad but I prefer "hang in there, kitty"
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Tomahawk on December 11, 2017, 12:38:19 AM
I'm petty sure that's the part people point at as proof that homosexuality is a sin
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: EJ72 on December 11, 2017, 12:57:04 AM
The news about Wentz sucks, he's a good player and fun to watch. They rarely get a 100% certain diagnosis until any swelling subsides which will probably be a couple, few days though. I think Foles is capable of piloting the ship the rest of the way if need be.
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: hbionic on December 11, 2017, 02:00:52 AM
Thanks for the positivity EJ72. But this is the Philadelphia Eagles. Nothing good ever happens to us. We just know the drill.
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Geowhizzer on December 11, 2017, 06:17:23 AM
Quote from: hbionic on December 11, 2017, 02:00:52 AM
Thanks for the positivity EJ72. But this is the Philadelphia Eagles. Nothing good ever happens to us. We just know the drill.

Dr. Havas has already declared Wentz, the Eagles and any chance of winning the Super Bowl in our lifetimes dead.  So it is written...
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Rome on December 11, 2017, 07:03:32 AM
It's the stupid ESPN cover. The second I saw it I knew it was just a matter of time.
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: SD on December 11, 2017, 12:27:02 PM
Official

All aboard the Foles train
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: General_Failure on December 11, 2017, 12:58:01 PM
At this point I hope he doesn't just RG3 up his career and wind up in Cleveland.
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: MDS on December 11, 2017, 01:12:47 PM
start of next season is def. in doubt

this is good
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: ice grillin you on December 11, 2017, 02:22:54 PM
yeah a full tear is minimum nine month recovery.....i suspect he's pup listed next year and probably plays after their bye especially if it's early
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Rome on December 11, 2017, 02:29:12 PM
God's got it covered.  Three months, max. 
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: hbionic on December 11, 2017, 02:56:06 PM
Jesus Christ.
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: General_Failure on December 11, 2017, 03:43:13 PM
Quote from: AntiRome on December 11, 2017, 02:29:12 PM
God's got it covered.  Three months, max. 

Three days.
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: QB Eagles on December 11, 2017, 03:48:21 PM
Quote from: AntiRome on December 11, 2017, 02:29:12 PM
God's got it covered.  Three months, max. 

Only if he prays to the same god as Adrian Peterson. And I'm pretty sure that god had a shady clinic somewhere in the Cayman Islands.
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: smeags on December 11, 2017, 04:08:18 PM
im just wondering what god's plan is with the world as it always seems to start and end with farging the eagles.
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: General_Failure on December 11, 2017, 05:17:13 PM
We're looking at that Old Testament god, full of wrath and Patriots merch.
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Rome on December 11, 2017, 07:51:55 PM
http://www.philly.com/philly/sports/carson-wentz-twitter-torn-acl-philadelphia-eagles-rams-20171211.html?mobi=true

If you don't like proselytizing, I'd avoid clicking that link. 

Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: NC_Eagle on December 11, 2017, 08:23:12 PM
Quote from: AO1 on December 11, 2017, 12:27:02 PM
Official

All aboard the Foles train

http://store.philadelphiaeagles.com/search/foles (http://store.philadelphiaeagles.com/search/foles)
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Eagaholic on December 11, 2017, 10:00:15 PM

http://store.philadelphiaeagles.com/search/foles (http://store.philadelphiaeagles.com/search/foles)
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Quote from: NC_Eagle on December 11, 2017, 08:23:12 PM
Quote from: AO1 on December 11, 2017, 12:27:02 PM
Official

All aboard the Foles train

http://store.philadelphiaeagles.com/search/foles (http://store.philadelphiaeagles.com/search/foles)
Whew! I didn't see this until there was < 2hrs left for the 25% off. There's gonna be a lot of happy people in my family this Christmas.
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: General_Failure on December 11, 2017, 10:15:29 PM
Quote from: AntiRome on December 11, 2017, 07:51:55 PM
http://www.philly.com/philly/sports/carson-wentz-twitter-torn-acl-philadelphia-eagles-rams-20171211.html?mobi=true

If you don't like proselytizing, I'd avoid clicking that link. 



Good thing he found something to do with all his free time now that he doesn't have to worry about football for a year or two.
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: ice grillin you on December 12, 2017, 05:38:54 AM
good morning


http://www.philly.com/philly/sports/eagles/philadelphia-eagles-carson-wentz-acl-injury-super-bowl-doom-destiny-20171211.html
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: ice grillin you on December 12, 2017, 06:42:55 AM
http://www.phillyvoice.com/saddest-eagles-fan-earth-bawls-about-wentz-injury-wip-morning-show/
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: SD on December 12, 2017, 07:57:33 AM
Quote from: ice grillin you on December 12, 2017, 05:38:54 AM
good morning


http://www.philly.com/philly/sports/eagles/philadelphia-eagles-carson-wentz-acl-injury-super-bowl-doom-destiny-20171211.html

This is scarey, especially considering Doctor Ford who is a board certified orthopedic surgeon who also has a degree in sports psychology and was a former coach with a hall of fame resume makes this speculation.
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on December 12, 2017, 08:40:24 AM
If that is the Bob Ford slop...not even clicking on it. What a steaming pile of shtein.
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: QB Eagles on December 12, 2017, 08:55:33 AM
Wentz may or may not return as the same guy... I think we know that's true for any serious injury... but I know for sure that when he comes back the Eagles will not be playing a last place schedule, and Rodgers, Elliot, Beckham, the Legion of Boom, Dalvin Cook, David Johnson, etc. will all be back in the NFC. This season was as easy as it's ever going to get.
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: smeags on December 12, 2017, 09:04:25 AM
obviously this all proves how dumb it was to move up for wentz when the eagles could've gotten prescott later in the draft.
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: ice grillin you on December 12, 2017, 09:05:20 AM
i think its pretty certain he will never be the same but that doesnt mean he cant still be great....his mobility even if it is just an attitude change (and its very possible he isnt physically the same) towards running will be lessened and that is a huge part of his game.....hes not some in the pocket super high percentage passer


Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on December 12, 2017, 08:40:24 AM
If that is the Bob Ford slop...not even clicking on it. What a steaming pile of shtein.

lol....feelings....nothing more than feelings....trying to forget my feelings
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Rome on December 12, 2017, 09:28:32 AM
Ford's piece was disgusting.   
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: ice grillin you on December 12, 2017, 09:30:06 AM
Quote from: AntiRome on December 12, 2017, 09:28:32 AM
Ford's piece was disgusting.

feelings....nothing more than feelings....trying to forget my feelings
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Rome on December 12, 2017, 09:48:05 AM
If Wentz was a black guy who didn't love Jesus you'd feel differently.
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: ice grillin you on December 12, 2017, 09:51:47 AM
differently about what?.....that its possible he might never be the same again

does that freezing cold take really upset you that much?

ive read a lot of "disgusting" things....this is not even on the same planet as disgusting
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: smeags on December 12, 2017, 10:01:32 AM
where's my damn popcorn ?
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Zanshin on December 12, 2017, 10:24:43 AM
Honestly, the article was just a waste of time, because it goes without saying. It was almost hyperbolic enough to classify as click-bait. It's a major injury; of course there's risk and anything is possible. Personally, I think he'll come back from it and largely be the same guy, provided they're smart with him. But anything is possible, and it's pretty pointless to speculate about it now because there are too many variables and the guy didn't even have the surgery yet. Plenty of time to wring hands over it, should people want to do so.
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Rome on December 12, 2017, 10:47:09 AM
Quote from: ice grillin you on December 12, 2017, 09:51:47 AM
differently about what?.....that its possible he might never be the same again

does that freezing cold take really upset you that much?

ive read a lot of "disgusting" things....this is not even on the same planet as disgusting

Seek mental help, IGY. 
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: ice grillin you on December 12, 2017, 10:49:16 AM
Quote from: Zanshin on December 12, 2017, 10:24:43 AM
Honestly, the article was just a waste of time, because it goes without saying. It was almost hyperbolic enough to classify as click-bait. It's a major injury; of course there's risk and anything is possible. Personally, I think he'll come back from it and largely be the same guy, provided they're smart with him. But anything is possible, and it's pretty pointless to speculate about it now because there are too many variables and the guy didn't even have the surgery yet. Plenty of time to wring hands over it, should people want to do so.

what about articles that say he will come back just as good as before

also disgusting click bait?
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: MDS on December 12, 2017, 10:50:07 AM
my man def. needs help but that has nothing to do with this

its a valid point to bring up. you might not want to hear it because it SUCKS but it's a concern. rg3 was never the same. wentz is better in the pocket than he was but wentz isnt brady or manning. his mobility and athleticism is a big part of what he does and what makes him next level. does that come back? does it come back all the way?

these are questions.
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: SD on December 12, 2017, 10:57:44 AM
Deshaun Watson's career is already over
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: ice grillin you on December 12, 2017, 11:10:57 AM
he is actually worse off as he has now torn both his acl's
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: smeags on December 12, 2017, 11:18:35 AM
1/2 empty vs 1/2 full
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: hunt on December 12, 2017, 11:25:35 AM
do we like this one better?

http://www.phillyvoice.com/experts-opinion-carson-wentzs-likelihood-starting-2018-season-time-and-returning-100-percent/

QuoteWhen Carson Wentz tore his ACL on Sunday against the Los Angeles Rams, the Philadelphia Eagles' special 2017 season took as serious a hit as imaginable. Looking ahead, because Wentz's injury occurred as late in the season as it did, many are concerned that he may not be ready to play when the start of the 2018 season rolls around.

We followed up with Mike Collins, P.T., ATC, MBA, Vice President and National Director of Sports Medicine, NovaCare Rehabilitation, to get some insights into when Wentz can realistically return to the field, and whether or not he will be the same player whenever he does.

With Wentz tearing his ACL in early-to-mid-December, there will be a gap of around seven and a half months between his injury and the start of training camp in 2018. It will be a little less than nine months in between the injury and the start of the 2018 regular season.

"I would say (a return in time for training camp) is a possibility," said Collins. "There are a lot of factors involved, and we have loose parameters based on the injury, and then there is how the individual responds. I've treated lots of people who responded more quickly than others. A few years back, there was more of an accelerated rehab type of approach in getting people back very quickly, and there are stories here and there of people who got back in a very short time frame.

"I would tell you that six-to-nine months is not out of the question, so that would put him right in that wheelhouse for training camp. With that said, an isolated ACL is one thing. If there are other injuries involved, it makes for a slightly more difficult rehab."

On Monday, Doug Pederson noted that his understanding was that there were no other associated knee injuries other than the ACL.

"With the report I got this morning, it was just ACL," he said.


With serious ligament injuries, the next question that always arises is whether or not the athlete can return to his previous form, pre-injury. According to Collins, there is a reasonable expectation that Wentz will.

"Absolutely," said Collins. "You can go down the line with many examples, from Adrian Peterson to way back in the day, Brian Westbrook. ACL injury is so prominent in the athletic population, and we have example after example of people who have recovered and performed at the same level.

"And that has to do with the quality of the surgical technique and the quality of the grafts being used. Because, remember, you cannot sew an ACL back together. You need to take tissue from somewhere else and reconstruct it. So again, the techniques, as well as the quality of graft, are significantly better than they were at one time."

And finally, will Wentz now be at greater risk of re-injuring his ACL after he has recovered?

"I would say no," Collins said. "This guy will have absolutely perfect rehab. He will be prepared before he goes back, and there's any number of return-to-play protocols that they'll follow. So I would not say it necessarily puts him at significant risk of re-injury. Statistically, when people look at these, someone who has had an injury – because now you're dealing with a reconstruction vs. what God blessed you with – there's a slightly higher propensity for re-injury. I would say that's across all demographics.

"When we're dealing with an athlete with these levels of resources available to him, I would say he should be in pretty good shape, and the thought of a re-injury really shouldn't even be there."

In other words, while Wentz's injury is devastating for the Eagles' Super Bowl aspirations in 2017, there is plenty of room for optimism in 2018 and beyond.
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: smeags on December 12, 2017, 11:37:42 AM
Quote from: hunt on December 12, 2017, 11:25:35 AM
do we like this one better?

http://www.phillyvoice.com/experts-opinion-carson-wentzs-likelihood-starting-2018-season-time-and-returning-100-percent/

QuoteWhen Carson Wentz tore his ACL on Sunday against the Los Angeles Rams, the Philadelphia Eagles' special 2017 season took as serious a hit as imaginable. Looking ahead, because Wentz's injury occurred as late in the season as it did, many are concerned that he may not be ready to play when the start of the 2018 season rolls around.

We followed up with Mike Collins, P.T., ATC, MBA, Vice President and National Director of Sports Medicine, NovaCare Rehabilitation, to get some insights into when Wentz can realistically return to the field, and whether or not he will be the same player whenever he does.

With Wentz tearing his ACL in early-to-mid-December, there will be a gap of around seven and a half months between his injury and the start of training camp in 2018. It will be a little less than nine months in between the injury and the start of the 2018 regular season.

"I would say (a return in time for training camp) is a possibility," said Collins. "There are a lot of factors involved, and we have loose parameters based on the injury, and then there is how the individual responds. I've treated lots of people who responded more quickly than others. A few years back, there was more of an accelerated rehab type of approach in getting people back very quickly, and there are stories here and there of people who got back in a very short time frame.

"I would tell you that six-to-nine months is not out of the question, so that would put him right in that wheelhouse for training camp. With that said, an isolated ACL is one thing. If there are other injuries involved, it makes for a slightly more difficult rehab."

On Monday, Doug Pederson noted that his understanding was that there were no other associated knee injuries other than the ACL.

"With the report I got this morning, it was just ACL," he said.


With serious ligament injuries, the next question that always arises is whether or not the athlete can return to his previous form, pre-injury. According to Collins, there is a reasonable expectation that Wentz will.

"Absolutely," said Collins. "You can go down the line with many examples, from Adrian Peterson to way back in the day, Brian Westbrook. ACL injury is so prominent in the athletic population, and we have example after example of people who have recovered and performed at the same level.

"And that has to do with the quality of the surgical technique and the quality of the grafts being used. Because, remember, you cannot sew an ACL back together. You need to take tissue from somewhere else and reconstruct it. So again, the techniques, as well as the quality of graft, are significantly better than they were at one time."

And finally, will Wentz now be at greater risk of re-injuring his ACL after he has recovered?

"I would say no," Collins said. "This guy will have absolutely perfect rehab. He will be prepared before he goes back, and there's any number of return-to-play protocols that they'll follow. So I would not say it necessarily puts him at significant risk of re-injury. Statistically, when people look at these, someone who has had an injury – because now you're dealing with a reconstruction vs. what God blessed you with – there's a slightly higher propensity for re-injury. I would say that's across all demographics.

"When we're dealing with an athlete with these levels of resources available to him, I would say he should be in pretty good shape, and the thought of a re-injury really shouldn't even be there."

In other words, while Wentz's injury is devastating for the Eagles' Super Bowl aspirations in 2017, there is plenty of room for optimism in 2018 and beyond.


romey's reaction - ahhh now I feel all comfy and warm.

igy's  - farg that armageddon is here !!
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Rome on December 12, 2017, 12:41:50 PM
Everyone knows the severity of the injury.  The tone of it was gross.   I'm not saying Ford was giddy over it, and for all I know he was instructed to write the article like that, but the truth is it seemed like he was taking a sense of perverse joy in Wentz's condition.

It's probably just a case of Ford being a cynical & bitter douchebag.  Or at least I hope it is, anyway. 
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: smeags on December 12, 2017, 12:53:23 PM
im just torn over the whole situation.
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: General_Failure on December 12, 2017, 01:03:53 PM
I thought I was partially torn and would only be upset for a few weeks.
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: smeags on December 12, 2017, 01:07:40 PM
well. looks like its going to take us both 6months at least to heal from this.
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Zanshin on December 12, 2017, 01:59:35 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on December 12, 2017, 10:49:16 AM
Quote from: Zanshin on December 12, 2017, 10:24:43 AM
Honestly, the article was just a waste of time, because it goes without saying. It was almost hyperbolic enough to classify as click-bait. It's a major injury; of course there's risk and anything is possible. Personally, I think he'll come back from it and largely be the same guy, provided they're smart with him. But anything is possible, and it's pretty pointless to speculate about it now because there are too many variables and the guy didn't even have the surgery yet. Plenty of time to wring hands over it, should people want to do so.

what about articles that say he will come back just as good as before

also disgusting click bait?

I don't know. I didn't read it, because it doesn't matter what anyone says right now one way or another. Obviously.
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on December 12, 2017, 02:53:50 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on December 12, 2017, 09:05:20 AM
i think its pretty certain he will never be the same but that doesnt mean he cant still be great....his mobility even if it is just an attitude change (and its very possible he isnt physically the same) towards running will be lessened and that is a huge part of his game.....hes not some in the pocket super high percentage passer


Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on December 12, 2017, 08:40:24 AM
If that is the Bob Ford slop...not even clicking on it. What a steaming pile of shtein.

lol....feelings....nothing more than feelings....trying to forget my feelings

Picture me trollin'!

Doctor Havas...ACLs are commonplace and the likelihood of that being anything more than a "routine" injury is slim. So your "pretty certain" is nothing more than woe is me crap. But you said he wasn't any good anyways so what does it matter?
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Sgt PSN on December 13, 2017, 10:59:31 PM
Lol @ all of this. ACL tears aren't even career killing for a RB anymore, much less a QB.  I'm not saying he'll be the exact same player when he comes back, but I don't think there will be much drop off, if any.  It's somewhat of a freak accident that he even tore it. ACL tears typically occur from excess pressure and torque/twisting.... like when trying to make a quick cut or run a seam route in the Vet.  The way he was injured is kind of a good thing. One of the biggest hurdles coming back from this is regaining confidence in the knee. Had he torn it trying to deke sometime, he might be more hesitant to try it again.  He tore it diving forward so maybe he starts sliding more. 
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: hbionic on December 14, 2017, 02:59:35 AM
lmao @ "running a seam route at the Vet".

:-D :-D :-D :-D :-D
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: ice grillin you on December 14, 2017, 05:29:45 AM
Quote from: Sgt PSN on December 13, 2017, 10:59:31 PM
career killing

huh?
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: SD on December 14, 2017, 07:25:08 AM
Quote from: Sgt PSN on December 13, 2017, 10:59:31 PM
Lol @ all of this. ACL tears aren't even career killing for a RB anymore, much less a QB.  I'm not saying he'll be the exact same player when he comes back, but I don't think there will be much drop off, if any.  It's somewhat of a freak accident that he even tore it. ACL tears typically occur from excess pressure and torque/twisting.... like when trying to make a quick cut or run a seam route in the Vet.  The way he was injured is kind of a good thing. One of the biggest hurdles coming back from this is regaining confidence in the knee. Had he torn it trying to deke sometime, he might be more hesitant to try it again.  He tore it diving forward so maybe he starts sliding more. 

Agree with this. That was one of the odder ACL tears in recent memory. I remember when Randall was coming back from his, he said the same thing that regaining confidence in his knee was the biggest hurdle.

Still the oddest ACL tear in the history of the league. This is when ACL tears weren't as common as they are now. The way his legs just buckle when he tries to go up for the ball is nuts. Great commentator comment while Davis is holding his knees "looks like he pulled a hamstring". I don't know how they let athletes play on the Vet surface as long as they did. Turf in general should have been outlawed but if you ever walked on the Vet turf it was like softer concrete with no give.

9:25 mark
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z_yNQqak6HM
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: QB Eagles on December 14, 2017, 11:53:04 AM
Quote from: AO1 on December 14, 2017, 07:25:08 AMThis is when ACL tears weren't as common as they are now.

I think they've always been pretty common. They just weren't perceived as impactful because the guys wouldn't get the surgery, and would often play again on the torn ACL. There are guys like Thurman Thomas and Joe Namath who played their whole careers on torn ACLs. Sometimes guys hid them and their career declines were never linked to their knee injuries. I think Logan Mankins did that a few years ago. Kinda makes me wince to think about it.

The definite career enders were complete knee exploders like what happened to Teddy B, and that can still be a career ender today. I don't even know if what happened to Wendell Davis was ACLs. I know he lost both tendons, but it could have been both. His knees were completely farged.
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: ice grillin you on December 14, 2017, 12:03:48 PM
wendell davis tore both patella tendons
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Eagaholic on December 14, 2017, 12:34:11 PM
For those feeling optimistic about Wentz's injury, I heard Doug say earlier in the week they think it could have been a noncontact injury occurring before the collision. After re-watching I didn't see that, but that was their take.
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: SD on December 14, 2017, 12:53:30 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on December 14, 2017, 12:03:48 PM
wendell davis tore both patella tendons

QuoteHis career effectively ended on October 10, 1993, in a game against the Philadelphia Eagles. While planting his feet to catch an underthrown deep ball from QB Jim Harbaugh, his cleats got stuck in the Astroturf at Veterans Stadium. The force of being pulled back to the ground was so severe that it completely severed the patella tendon in each of his knees. Doctors later found his kneecaps had been pushed all the way into his thighs. He spent several months in a wheelchair, with his legs encased in casts from thigh to ankle.

Ouch
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on December 14, 2017, 03:26:23 PM
And then only a few years later Buck would tear his patella's and they'd JB Weld them and stitch it with bailing wire and he was fine.

But hey - Doc Havas, who said Darby was done for the year, is on the case.
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: smeags on December 14, 2017, 03:34:11 PM
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on December 14, 2017, 03:26:23 PM
And then only a few years later Buck would tear his patella's and they'd JB Weld them and stitch it with bailing wire and he was fine.

But hey - Doc Havas, who said Darby was done for the year, is on the case.


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Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: ice grillin you on December 14, 2017, 03:36:16 PM
im positive carson will come back
run like randall
throw like montana
and win tons of superbowls

GOOOOOOOO TEEEEEEEEAAAAAAM!!
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Zanshin on December 14, 2017, 03:49:57 PM
You really struggle finding middle ground. Life must be tough when everything only appears to be the best or the worst. Most often, it's neither.
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on December 14, 2017, 04:01:17 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on December 14, 2017, 03:36:16 PM
im positive carson will come back
run like randall
throw like montana
and win tons of superbowls

GOOOOOOOO TEEEEEEEEAAAAAAM!!

You sound like Trumps wack doc
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: smeags on December 14, 2017, 04:08:53 PM
im just happy to hear that wentz will not only be back to his level of scrambling/running, he'll look like randall out there.   :yay :yay :yay
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: General_Failure on December 14, 2017, 04:51:12 PM
I'm concerned about the amount of time he'll spend in a tanning bed if that's the case.
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: smeags on December 15, 2017, 07:50:34 AM
Quote from: General_Failure on December 14, 2017, 04:51:12 PM
I'm concerned about the amount of time he'll spend in a tanning bed if that's the case.

let A01, be A01.
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: hbionic on December 15, 2017, 07:57:19 PM
Any chance 5 days is enough time for a recovery from an ACL injury?
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: ice grillin you on December 15, 2017, 08:02:11 PM
Quote from: hbionic on December 15, 2017, 07:57:19 PM
Any chance 5 days is enough time for a recovery from an ACL injury?

only if you believe in god
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: hbionic on December 15, 2017, 08:05:09 PM
Never mind then.
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Sgt PSN on December 15, 2017, 09:01:30 PM
It only took Jesus 3 days to recover from death. Personally, I think anyone who misses more than 1 series because of a torn ligament is a farging hoyda.
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Eagaholic on December 15, 2017, 09:46:23 PM
Quote from: Sgt PSN on December 15, 2017, 09:01:30 PM
It only took Jesus 3 days to recover from death.
Few people understand the true mysteries of Jesus' resurrection, and it's hidden meaning. He could turn water into wine which made him totally awesome at parties. Good wine, too. That's where he got that kind of good karma from. Even if Wentz could bring an elk or something he still can't compete with that, so you can't expect that same kind of healing power. 
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Sgt PSN on December 15, 2017, 11:14:31 PM
Is there anything more Jewish than turning water into wine?  I mean, how farging cheap you gonna be, bro?  Drop some coin on decent grapes and mash that shtein until it gets you drunk.
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Eagaholic on December 15, 2017, 11:18:46 PM
Infidel.
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: QB Eagles on December 15, 2017, 11:57:28 PM
Quote from: Sgt PSN on December 15, 2017, 11:14:31 PM
Is there anything more Jewish than turning water into wine?  I mean, how farging cheap you gonna be, bro?  Drop some coin on decent grapes and mash that shtein until it gets you drunk.

Some of us believe the theory that Jesus was actually killed by a conspiracy of wine, bread, and fish cartels.
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Sgt PSN on December 16, 2017, 12:11:09 AM
Big Fish don't farging play.
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: General_Failure on December 16, 2017, 01:00:27 AM
Right? Have you seen Jaws?
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on December 16, 2017, 01:18:45 AM
The QB or shark?
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Don Ho on December 16, 2017, 04:33:31 AM
Quote from: Eagaholic on December 15, 2017, 09:46:23 PM
Quote from: Sgt PSN on December 15, 2017, 09:01:30 PM
It only took Jesus 3 days to recover from death.
Few people understand the true mysteries of Jesus' resurrection, and it's hidden meaning. He could turn water into wine which made him totally awesome at parties. Good wine, too. That's where he got that kind of good karma from.

Wait!  What?  Jesus works at Costco?
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Eagaholic on December 16, 2017, 03:04:03 PM
Quote from: Don Ho on December 16, 2017, 04:33:31 AM
Quote from: Eagaholic on December 15, 2017, 09:46:23 PM
Quote from: Sgt PSN on December 15, 2017, 09:01:30 PM
It only took Jesus 3 days to recover from death.
Few people understand the true mysteries of Jesus' resurrection, and it's hidden meaning. He could turn water into wine which made him totally awesome at parties. Good wine, too. That's where he got that kind of good karma from.

Wait!  What?  Jesus works at Costco?
He doesn't work there, just shops. Jesus saves.
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: ice grillin you on January 10, 2018, 08:57:40 AM
how would carsons families name read on a door mat

the wentz
the wentz'
the wentzes
the wentz's
other

???
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Diomedes on January 10, 2018, 11:17:47 AM
if that were my name the mat would read either "Wentz" or, "the Wentz Family."
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: ice grillin you on January 10, 2018, 11:19:43 AM
Quote from: Diomedes on January 10, 2018, 11:17:47 AM
if that were my name the mat would read either "Wentz" or, "the Wentz Family."

yeah i guess the door mat example is not a good one

say for example you wanted to write "carson wentz knee is hurt"....how would you write wentz in that case...youd still just go wentz?

cause you wouldnt say tom brady knee is hurt oud say tom brady's knee is hurt
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Diomedes on January 10, 2018, 11:52:22 AM
I think "Wentz's" would be correct in that case because it's the possessive tense.

As for the welcome mat, I think it would be just "The Wentzs," much like it would say "The Bradys."
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Sgt PSN on January 10, 2018, 11:55:07 AM
His doormat would (and probably does) read AO1 you farging mongoloids.
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: QB Eagles on January 10, 2018, 11:56:52 AM
It's "es" after "z" names, even though it looks kinda horrible (Hernandezes, Schultzes, etc.). Similar to the Joneses.
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Diomedes on January 10, 2018, 12:02:09 PM
Quote from: QB Eagles on January 10, 2018, 11:56:52 AM
It's "es" after "z" names, even though it looks kinda horrible (Hernandezes, Schultzes, etc.). Similar to the Joneses.
Aha, of course you're correct.  We are learning today!!
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Geowhizzer on January 10, 2018, 12:50:39 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on January 10, 2018, 11:19:43 AM
Quote from: Diomedes on January 10, 2018, 11:17:47 AM
if that were my name the mat would read either "Wentz" or, "the Wentz Family."

yeah i guess the door mat example is not a good one

say for example you wanted to write "carson wentz knee is hurt"....how would you write wentz in that case...youd still just go wentz?

cause you wouldnt say tom brady knee is hurt oud say tom brady's knee is hurt

Wentz's
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Sgt PSN on January 10, 2018, 01:29:41 PM
Singular = Wentz.
Singular Possessive = Carson Wentz's knee exploded.
Plural = The Wentzes are all praying for Carson. 
Plural Possessive = This is the Wentzes' house.
Doormat = The Wentzes. 

I think I got that right. 
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: hbionic on January 10, 2018, 02:18:05 PM
If he gets married and has kids, does it go from an army of one, to a battalion?
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: QB Eagles on January 10, 2018, 02:27:55 PM
Quote from: Sgt PSN on January 10, 2018, 01:29:41 PM
Singular = Wentz.
Singular Possessive = Carson Wentz's knee exploded.
Plural = The Wentzes are all praying for Carson. 
Plural Possessive = This is the Wentzes' house.
Doormat = The Wentzes. 

I think I got that right. 

Doormat: Vaitai
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Don Ho on January 10, 2018, 04:22:59 PM
This may be the hardest I've laugh in awhile!  Good shtein gentlemen.
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: SD on January 12, 2018, 09:26:38 PM
QuoteCarson Wentz

@cj_wentz
Much love for the people of Haiti! They've been thru so much but it was incredible to see so much hope in them—even tho they've been stricken by so many natural disasters. Such a resilient nation & a place I'm passionate about. Definitely changed @jmattjmattjmatt and I forever!
7:42 PM - Jan 12, 2018
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: QB Eagles on January 26, 2018, 04:10:26 PM
ACL and LCL
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: hbionic on January 26, 2018, 06:27:59 PM
What, his other knee?
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Diomedes on January 26, 2018, 09:51:24 PM
No, that's the OCL.
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: SD on February 06, 2018, 01:21:33 PM
Getting married
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Diomedes on February 06, 2018, 05:34:18 PM
And soon thereafter, laid!
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Eagaholic on February 06, 2018, 05:40:14 PM
Missionary position?
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Rome on February 06, 2018, 05:40:17 PM
Everyone forgot about him for a second and this is his response. 

AO5?
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Munson on February 28, 2018, 06:20:25 PM
https://twitter.com/cj_wentz/status/968870641947631621
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Diomedes on February 28, 2018, 08:08:18 PM
Christians do luv them sum consumerism.
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: General_Failure on February 28, 2018, 08:54:12 PM
I wonder if he got his guns blessed today.
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Diomedes on February 28, 2018, 10:17:12 PM
I hope he's one of the 46% of gun owners who store their weapons safely. 
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Tomahawk on March 01, 2018, 02:10:01 AM
I hope he's one of the 54% that will blast his gun on your face
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Diomedes on March 08, 2018, 05:04:45 PM
https://www.instagram.com/p/BgEzVhkH2_R/
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: ice grillin you on March 08, 2018, 05:13:49 PM
i dont follow him on social media so maybe hes always posted videos and shtein but jason peters sure seems fired up about coming back next year...having to watch the super bowl and not play it had to have been a huge gut shot for him add in his age and he seems lit for next season
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: MDS on March 08, 2018, 07:31:16 PM
generally im ready to move on from ancient left tackles coming off major injuries but yea not him
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: General_Failure on March 19, 2018, 12:19:30 PM
https://twitter.com/jondimuzCBS/status/975753599845363713
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: ice grillin you on March 19, 2018, 12:28:21 PM
i thought i was white
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: General_Failure on March 19, 2018, 12:29:27 PM
He's never seen the sun, only the holy light of the Lord Jesus Christ. Can I get an Amen?
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: hbionic on March 19, 2018, 12:48:40 PM
Amen.
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: SD on March 19, 2018, 01:07:08 PM
Quote from: General_Failure on March 19, 2018, 12:29:27 PM
He's never seen the sun, only the holy light of the Lord Jesus Christ. Can I get an Amen?

No...but you can get a HELL YEAH!
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Rome on March 19, 2018, 03:04:47 PM
Wtf is with the creepy animated 👀?
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: hbionic on March 19, 2018, 03:17:53 PM
looks like a pair of eyes or old eggs.
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: ice grillin you on March 19, 2018, 03:34:28 PM
https://twitter.com/JReidDraftScout/status/975155660106190849
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Diomedes on March 19, 2018, 04:12:01 PM
Just like the banter in a regular season :CF game thread, except fewer people calling each other "douchebag."
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: MDS on June 01, 2018, 05:42:13 PM
so my downstairs neighbor was having somewhere between a mild heart attack and a panic attack a few weeks ago. he is a weird older brotha with no tv or internet or phone. i think hes mentally slow. anyway, during this episode at 100am, he got my attention by furiously opening and closing his front door. i was up watching the crown, being the cool cat that i am.

upon talking to him for a bit, i called 911 and brought the ambo out. they took him in and he was back at the house the next morning.

fast forward to today and i have a card for me. its a thank you note. with $30 in it.

knowing that hes a jesus freak, i take that $30 and donate it to the A01 foundation in his name. congrats to carson wentz. now go build a house for someone in haiti on the condition that they listen to you blab on about how great jesus is.
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: hbionic on June 01, 2018, 06:55:48 PM
#humblebrag?

Nice job anyway. What did you feel wasn't right that made you call 911?
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Diomedes on June 01, 2018, 07:03:54 PM
Jew fur Jesus
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: MDS on June 01, 2018, 08:47:49 PM
Quote from: hbionic on June 01, 2018, 06:55:48 PM
#humblebrag?

Nice job anyway. What did you feel wasn't right that made you call 911?

his claim that he couldnt breathe...he said his throat felt tight. didnt know what else to do but call them. thats what our tax dollars that arent funneled to the trump crime family are for.
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Diomedes on June 01, 2018, 10:03:11 PM
I call 911 two or three times a year.  Saw a raving white junkie on MLK Boulevard today waiving a hypodermic needle around in one hand....and decided that didn't cross the threshold so no call this time.  Other times, i can't help it.  Someone's got to.
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Tomahawk on June 02, 2018, 12:37:40 AM
That someone isn't me, narc
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: hbionic on June 02, 2018, 02:14:34 AM
Yeah, I call 911 on the road about 6-10 times a year. I always think of the 'Bystander Effect'. Just call anyway, you never know, you may be the first one out of all the people standing around or driving by. You may just save a life.

Nice job again MDS.
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: SD on June 06, 2018, 11:26:20 AM
Mort: Wentz is shockingly ahead of schedule

https://www.bleedinggreennation.com/2018/6/5/17430724/carson-wentz-update-nfl-insider-eagles-quarterback-shockingly-ahead-of-schedule-recovery-knee-acl
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: MDS on June 06, 2018, 11:29:22 AM
its not shocking...belief in the lord is more powerful than anything
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Rome on June 06, 2018, 11:45:40 AM
I don't believe... in Zimmerman. 

I just believe... in Me. 
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: QB Eagles on June 25, 2018, 09:44:02 PM
Voted third best player in the league by his peers.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uxolo-R57mA
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: smeags on July 16, 2018, 12:25:01 PM
married.

your take on this, SD ?
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: SD on July 16, 2018, 12:36:31 PM
Quote from: smeags on July 16, 2018, 12:25:01 PM
married.

your take on this, SD ?

"Women weaken legs"
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: smeags on July 16, 2018, 01:07:40 PM
 :-D
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Rome on July 16, 2018, 03:01:32 PM
He thanked god for his wife before he thanked her for marrying him. 

Duuuuuude... noooooooo...
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: ice grillin you on September 19, 2018, 09:50:55 AM
i could watch the move he makes at :18 against the giants forever...the quickness is incredible and the acceleration after he makes the move is so good for a big guy


https://twitter.com/phillyfanlife/status/1012000064091369472 21f
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Diomedes on November 03, 2018, 04:32:42 PM
https://twitter.com/cj_wentz/status/1058803376048275456
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Munson on November 03, 2018, 04:40:00 PM
Kill all the Canadian Geese you can, farg those things

That's a lot of white dudes.. Didn't he bring his receivers and such last year?
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Rome on November 03, 2018, 04:56:11 PM
That is farging disgusting.  Look, I'm not anti-hunting but that's a glorified slaughter just so those Neanderthals can feel better about their tiny dicks. 
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: ice grillin you on November 03, 2018, 05:05:28 PM
white people are something else
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Munson on November 03, 2018, 05:05:47 PM
I can't speak to the other birds but Canadian geese almost have to be overpopulated at this point.

I love their baby chicks but once they grow up they're just grouchy aholes that are everywhere.
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: MDS on November 03, 2018, 05:19:57 PM
that pic makes me physically ill but then i saw mike trout and i kinda got hard
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Geowhizzer on November 03, 2018, 06:06:27 PM
The geese forgot to duck...  :paranoid
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Don Ho on November 03, 2018, 07:47:58 PM
There's no ducking the issue here.
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: General_Failure on November 03, 2018, 08:06:14 PM
QuotePredators of Canada geese and their eggs include humans, coyotes, raccoons, skunks, bobcats, and foxes, as well as gulls, eagles, crows, ravens, and magpies. Canada geese hatched in urban environments may have very low first-year mortalities due to the abundance of food and relative scarcity of natural predators.

https://wdfw.wa.gov/living/canada_geese.html
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Rome on November 03, 2018, 10:01:20 PM
I grew up hunting and fishing.  It's not like I'm some PETA pansy who thinks chickens have souls.  They're birds.  And they're goddamn delicious covered in batter and deep fried to a golden brown. 

But that shtein is just grotesque.  Sorry, Carson.   That looks like something that Don Jr would be doing with his creepy frat bros.
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: General_Failure on November 03, 2018, 10:15:39 PM
No, they'd pose with a dead lion or something. What's the point in being rich if your killing is going to be so pedestrian?
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: ice grillin you on November 03, 2018, 10:21:55 PM
Quote from: General_Failure on November 03, 2018, 10:15:39 PM
No, they'd pose with a dead lion or something.

lions arent endangered or have tusks
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: General_Failure on November 03, 2018, 10:33:16 PM
Baby seals or passed out college girls, then.
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Eagles_Legendz on November 04, 2018, 12:27:01 PM
I don't understand hunting for sport.  Never have, never will.
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Diomedes on November 04, 2018, 01:04:12 PM
What I don't get is how it's considered "sporting" to shoot birds with shotguns.  That's just slaughter.  Like fishing with a grenade instead of a line and lure.  Taking pleasure in doing it is still a further step beyond my imagination.  What exactly is so cool about gunning down ducks and geese I can't fathom.  It's hard not to look down on people who find joy in it as barbaric.
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Rome on November 04, 2018, 04:52:19 PM
If you're shooting at ducks you need a shotgun.   In New Jersey rifles were illegal anyway.   We'd hunt deer in PA because of that.   And my father would kick the shtein out of me if I "celebrated" killing something.  We ate what we killed, period.  And we didn't slaughter shtein just because we could.  That is barbarism, plain and simple.
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: MDS on November 04, 2018, 05:08:14 PM
just be happy nobody there had a MAGA hat on
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: General_Failure on November 04, 2018, 05:09:04 PM
They don't sell those in hunter orange. They're missing out on a ton of extra revenue to stay on brand.
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Don Ho on November 04, 2018, 07:29:42 PM
I love meat, I love poultry but don't dig the hunting scene at all.  We have a nasty boar and wild goat problem here as they cause horrible erosion issues in the hills.  The wild pigs are getting braver and braver and now roam neighborhoods.  One of my son friends is part of the Department of Land and Natural Resources eradication project where they fly these guys by helicopter into the mountains and hunt the goats and pigs.  Eradication I get, hunting for survival like our forefathers I get, for sport?  Sorry, I choose surfing.
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: SD on November 04, 2018, 07:56:31 PM
Just ate a box of Popeyes chicken. farging delicious. Why kill birds when there's Ubereats
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: smeags on November 05, 2018, 11:44:15 AM
that's a foul picture for him to post.  :paranoid
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Tomahawk on November 05, 2018, 10:18:53 PM
I recently started carrying a knife with me when I hike so I can stab a deer if I see one
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: General_Failure on November 05, 2018, 10:25:16 PM
A Buck knife?
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Tomahawk on November 05, 2018, 10:39:19 PM
No, it's dat one doe

(https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/5165Al8F1IL._SL1000_.jpg)
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on December 13, 2018, 08:46:41 PM
Fractured vertebrae eh? Cool

A friend texted me and said the rumor is the medical staff knew three weeks ago and told him he was fine.
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: smeags on December 14, 2018, 07:57:14 AM
burger king called that fake news.
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: QB Eagles on December 14, 2018, 09:29:40 AM
Not sure why a bunch of people who work at Rothman would decide to lose their medical licenses over hiding an injury. Gonna need some evidence for a claim like that.
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Diomedes on December 14, 2018, 09:30:46 AM
LOL, evidence?  You don't need evidence anymore yo.

All you gotta do is say "a lot of people are saying...."  or "very good sources report privately to me...."

BOOM .  Now you have reality.
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Diomedes on December 14, 2018, 09:49:04 AM
I suppose you start Foles until the Eagles are eliminated, otherwise it's just quitting.  But once they are actually mathematically done, they should spare Foles the injury risk and start Sudfeld.  Get him some real time reps and see if he's the backup the Eagles need.  Put others in too, like Mailata. 
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: smeags on December 14, 2018, 09:49:21 AM
gotta get dem clicks.
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: ice grillin you on December 14, 2018, 10:09:26 AM
Quote from: Diomedes on December 14, 2018, 09:49:04 AM
I suppose you start Foles until the Eagles are eliminated, otherwise it's just quitting.  But once they are actually mathematically done, they should spare Foles the injury risk and start Sudfeld.  Get him some real time reps and see if he's the backup the Eagles need.  Put others in too, like Mailata.

mailata also has back issues and isnt practicing....no idea how serious tho
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: QB Eagles on December 14, 2018, 10:15:20 AM
Quote from: Diomedes on December 14, 2018, 09:49:04 AM
I suppose you start Foles until the Eagles are eliminated, otherwise it's just quitting.  But once they are actually mathematically done, they should spare Foles the injury risk and start Sudfeld.  Get him some real time reps and see if he's the backup the Eagles need.  Put others in too, like Mailata. 

Problem is the 6 spot in the NFC is so weak that there will be realistic (if unlikely) paths to the playoffs even after losing to the Rams. So you might only play Sudfeld against Washington, and I'm not sure any performance against the Skins right now should be taken to mean anything.
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: ice grillin you on December 14, 2018, 11:36:37 AM
Quote from: ice grillin you on December 14, 2018, 10:09:26 AM
Quote from: Diomedes on December 14, 2018, 09:49:04 AM
I suppose you start Foles until the Eagles are eliminated, otherwise it's just quitting.  But once they are actually mathematically done, they should spare Foles the injury risk and start Sudfeld.  Get him some real time reps and see if he's the backup the Eagles need.  Put others in too, like Mailata.

mailata also has back issues and isnt practicing....no idea how serious tho

IR
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: MDS on December 14, 2018, 01:07:12 PM
how does someone get injured without ever playing in a game or even working with the 1s

i dont know if its karmatic payback for the super bowl or what but this is the biggest joke of a medical staff in history
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Rome on December 14, 2018, 02:51:12 PM
You'd think a good Jew like Lurie would hire the best doctors... eh, who can tell why these happen.
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on June 06, 2019, 07:36:56 PM
Four year extension through 2024

No money amounts released yet
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: SD on June 06, 2019, 07:46:11 PM
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on June 06, 2019, 07:36:56 PM
Four year extension through 2024

No money amounts released yet

Probably $25-30 million per season
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Rome on June 06, 2019, 08:11:10 PM
If you're not a fan of proselytizing, I'd avoid his "thanks" video on the twitters.   
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on June 06, 2019, 08:11:26 PM
4 years $128M and $107M guaranteed

Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: General_Failure on June 06, 2019, 08:15:46 PM
I sure am glad the cap goes up stupid amounts every year now.
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Diomedes on June 06, 2019, 08:20:10 PM
Quote from: Rome on June 06, 2019, 08:11:10 PMIf you're not a fan of proselytizing, I'd avoid his "thanks" video on the twitters.   

I'm a fan of Wentz playing a full season of football.  Philadelphia Eagles need a star QB, not a martyr with a Jesus complex.
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Rome on June 06, 2019, 08:21:39 PM
Holy shtein.
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: ice grillin you on June 06, 2019, 09:29:38 PM
He's someone that you are best not to listen to ever

when he doesn't sound like he's at a tent revival he's being the most sleep inducing cliche ridden speaker ever
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: General_Failure on June 06, 2019, 09:40:33 PM
At least we'll never see him dry hump a wall after a sick air banjo performance.


It'll be a real banjo.
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Rome on June 06, 2019, 09:55:39 PM
Ok.  That was legit hilarious. 

A++
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: MDS on June 06, 2019, 10:44:53 PM
no competent qb experience can ever be worse than 5 so wentz's low rent tim tebow impression goes one ear and out the other to me

just play well ginger boy
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: ice grillin you on June 07, 2019, 07:59:11 AM
Quote from: General_Failure on June 06, 2019, 09:40:33 PM
At least we'll never see him dry hump a wall after a sick air banjo performance.

well yeah the bed wetter i want to die....wentz i just want to go away
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Zanshin on June 07, 2019, 01:16:52 PM
Good that it's out of the way.
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Don Ho on June 07, 2019, 06:12:11 PM
Quote from: General_Failure on June 06, 2019, 09:40:33 PM
At least we'll never see him dry hump a wall after a sick air banjo performance.


It'll be a real banjo.

bad visual, very bad.
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: QB Eagles on June 08, 2019, 09:25:52 AM
Banner on the Wentz deal.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sgTt5iNtDmo
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: ice grillin you on June 20, 2019, 10:49:10 AM
https://twitter.com/Eagles/status/1141457489340354561
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Don Ho on June 20, 2019, 07:49:31 PM
I hope we see a lot of that and not a lot of Rasul getting toasted.
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: General_Failure on June 20, 2019, 08:02:08 PM
You'll get lots of both and you'll like it.
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Rome on July 26, 2019, 07:13:26 PM
I gotta admit the scene with Wentz and the little dude in the wheelchair this afternoon choked me up. 

Cool as hell. 
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: ice grillin you on July 26, 2019, 07:25:38 PM
that dood reminded me of that little potato head girl that was in the wheel chair on the facts of life
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Don Ho on July 27, 2019, 04:19:12 AM
 :-D Oh my God!  I can't wait for the Concreteboard reunion in hell.
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: ice grillin you on July 27, 2019, 12:58:46 PM
meet you at the flame
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Geowhizzer on September 09, 2019, 06:42:40 PM
https://twitter.com/RoobNBCS/status/1171062990642339840
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: General_Failure on September 09, 2019, 08:06:22 PM
How many 3 TD games, though?
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Diomedes on September 10, 2019, 04:23:27 PM
https://twitter.com/BrandonThornNFL/status/1171445728326995969?



Also...note the rookie doing pass pro work like a pro.
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Don Ho on September 11, 2019, 02:22:02 AM
Seumalo getting burned, shocking. 

Nice pickup on the blitz by Sanders!!!
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Geowhizzer on September 15, 2019, 01:44:10 PM
https://twitter.com/RoobNBCS/status/1173286166193479681
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: General_Failure on September 15, 2019, 01:46:55 PM
Suck it, Mahomes.
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: ice grillin you on September 20, 2019, 01:58:02 PM
https://twitter.com/cj_wentz/status/1175098404000731136
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: MDS on September 20, 2019, 02:13:00 PM
still not worse than 5 but its getting close
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: ice grillin you on September 20, 2019, 02:17:11 PM
hes actually a good QB so he will always have that over the bed wetter
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Diomedes on September 20, 2019, 02:18:18 PM
Quote from: MDS on September 20, 2019, 02:13:00 PMstill not worse than 5 but its getting close

No, not even close.

We got so lucky that McNabb puked the game away in '04.  Just imagine if he's the face of the Eagles first Super Bowl victory.  A whole life time of him embarrassing us, cringes unending.

Thank you, Nick Foles. 

Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Rome on September 20, 2019, 03:31:59 PM
He can pray to a toilet seat cover for all I care.  Just win, baby. 
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: General_Failure on September 20, 2019, 03:42:42 PM
McNabb will be the one remembered for puking on the big stage. Wentz will be the one remembered for being cuckolded by Foles for that first ring.
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Diomedes on September 20, 2019, 04:09:39 PM
Poor cuckholds get a bad rap.  He might really have enjoyed that more than if he did it himself, you know?
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Don Ho on September 21, 2019, 05:27:13 AM
Seriously, join the Peoples Temple in Jonestown for all I care, just keep it respectable and get this pile of shtein to 2-2 by Thursday.

And how in the farg do the Cowboys get the Giants, Racists and Dolphins to start the season? 
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on October 17, 2019, 07:52:28 PM
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bleedinggreennation.com/platform/amp/2019/10/17/20919756/carson-wentz-offense-espn-josina-anderson-report-philadelphia-news-nfl-live-anonymous-player-foles

So Alshon again?
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: MDS on October 17, 2019, 08:51:51 PM
sounds like her source might be shady...someone who used to be on the eagles but doesnt watch them
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: ice grillin you on October 17, 2019, 09:58:29 PM
Wentz has exactly one more audience member in heaven than he does in the eagles licker room
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: QB Eagles on October 17, 2019, 11:29:46 PM
Considering that her source doesn't seem to have any accurate observations about the Eagles offense at all, it's probably Mike Groh.
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Eagaholic on October 18, 2019, 01:24:33 AM
It's Littlefinger.
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Rome on October 18, 2019, 12:39:11 PM
Quote from: Eagaholic on October 18, 2019, 01:24:33 AM
It's Littlefinger.

Ha!
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Don Ho on October 18, 2019, 05:19:20 PM
 :-D :-D :-D
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Geowhizzer on November 28, 2019, 10:43:54 AM
We may have found the problem...

https://twitter.com/Eagles/status/1200076764145471488
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: General_Failure on November 28, 2019, 10:46:12 AM
These LL Bean catalog covers are getting worse every year.
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Geowhizzer on November 28, 2019, 10:50:05 AM
On the plus side, he didn't fumble on that play.
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on November 28, 2019, 11:00:03 AM
Hoyda is undefeated.

Ok Carson you had sex. Now play better
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: SD on November 28, 2019, 11:16:41 AM
Any coincidence his play went downhill after he got married?
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: General_Failure on November 28, 2019, 11:32:00 AM
Reverse cowgirl'd into a broken back and dead receivers. Seen it happen a million times.
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: ice grillin you on November 28, 2019, 11:41:29 AM
his gooey little fishies ran the correct route
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: General_Failure on November 28, 2019, 11:48:01 AM
One did. The rest literally died.
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: MDS on November 28, 2019, 12:07:04 PM
Quote from: AO1 on November 28, 2019, 11:16:41 AM
Any coincidence his play went downhill after he got married?

new idea: dont make virgin jesus freaks your franchise qbs
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: General_Failure on November 28, 2019, 12:12:25 PM
I for one am looking forward to his AA baseball career in a few years.
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Geowhizzer on November 28, 2019, 12:40:57 PM
Quote from: General_Failure on November 28, 2019, 11:48:01 AM
One did. The rest literally died.

They'd still be better than Agholor.
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: General_Failure on November 28, 2019, 01:04:37 PM
That egg is his best receiver this year.
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Geowhizzer on November 28, 2019, 01:07:25 PM
Still got sacked, though.
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: General_Failure on November 28, 2019, 01:16:10 PM
It's gonna get real weird when that kid comes out looking like Fletcher Cox.
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on November 28, 2019, 07:18:48 PM
Haha
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on December 27, 2019, 04:14:51 PM
Carson Wentz is 250 yards away from becoming the first QB in NFL history to throw for 4,000 yards while having no WR over 500 yards for the season.
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: General_Failure on December 27, 2019, 05:26:21 PM
Greg Ward's about to go off for 289 yards.
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Don Ho on December 28, 2019, 02:46:36 AM
Quote from: General_Failure on December 27, 2019, 05:26:21 PM
Whoever Jalen Mills and Rasul Douglas are covering is about to go off for 289 yards.
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Geowhizzer on December 29, 2019, 11:13:04 PM
https://twitter.com/RoobNBCS/status/1211500218153422850
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Don Ho on January 05, 2020, 07:41:31 PM
With his history of injuries it's time to get a good backup in here.  Knee, back, now head injury, he's Tony Romo.
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: General_Failure on January 05, 2020, 11:10:57 PM
I wish the NFL would do something about protecting quarterbacks taking shots to the head.
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Geowhizzer on January 06, 2020, 12:06:33 AM
https://twitter.com/JClarkNBCS/status/1214002324789694497

(https://thumbs.gfycat.com/HospitablePitifulGoat-size_restricted.gif)
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Don Ho on January 06, 2020, 12:35:09 AM
It's going to take a Brady, Rodgers, Wilson, Brees, to go down with a helmet to helmet until they lay down the hammer and start ejecting people.
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Don Ho on January 06, 2020, 12:42:34 AM


Skip Bayless
@RealSkipBayless
I'm still trying to figure out how that Clowney helmet-to-helmet hit on Wentz as he was going to the ground didn't draw a flag. Clowney would've been ejected in college football. He got away with cheap-shotting Wentz out of the game
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Rome on January 06, 2020, 09:22:18 AM
I'm still steaming about that bullshtein last night.  There's no doubt in my mind that was a deliberate intent to injure Wentz, yet somehow Clowney made it off that field last night with his limbs intact.

Imagine someone pulling that with Seth and Jerome on our side of the ball or with Runyan on the OL or with Buddy coaching...

Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: General_Failure on January 06, 2020, 09:34:43 AM
What good is a Bodyguard who repeatedly doesn't guard bodies?
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Don Ho on January 07, 2020, 01:38:25 AM
Peters was to dizzy impersonating a blocking sled to help guard his QB.
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: ice grillin you on January 07, 2020, 08:31:53 AM
i will never for the life of me understand why people are so upset about the play....simply because even if a flag is thrown they still lose the game....a flag doesnt bring wentz back...clowney did exactly what hes supposed to do which is take the opposing QB out of the game and in this case the only good offensive player on the opposing team

that being said if you wanna argue that the cfb targeting rule should be in the nfl then thats a valid beef and one i would 100% agree with

but small picture and just talking about sunday every eagle fan would have been thrilled if brandon graham had done that to russell wilson
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Don Ho on January 07, 2020, 03:40:54 PM
Correct, Cox, Graham, etc takes out Wilson we are celebrating.  Wentz slides feet first like Wilson does, he finishes the game.  I feel if Wentz stayed in the game it would have been close but once he went out Seattle played conservative football as they knew they had it.  Wentz stays in Seattle airs it out and puts up 30.  Birds secondary was exposed to the nation Sunday night.  Metcalf was beating these clowns by 3-4 yards, no one could stop him. 
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Diomedes on January 07, 2020, 04:00:37 PM
I'm not even sure it's a dirty hit. 
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: ice grillin you on January 07, 2020, 04:09:36 PM
Quote from: Diomedes on January 07, 2020, 04:00:37 PM
I'm not even sure it's a dirty hit.

I'm not going there...it was a pretty awful hit...but the fact that there was no flag is meaningless and shouldn't be part of the discussion
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Diomedes on January 07, 2020, 05:06:41 PM
I mean, it might be.  But there's a lot of leeway given when it's a runner.  Guys are forever coming in just ever so late on a player who is obviously down/going to be down.  Clowney was squarely in that territory...whether it's dirty, I don't know.  He does lower his head, can't see what he's hitting, etc...

I don't know what's anything in the NFL anymore really. 
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Rome on January 07, 2020, 05:06:45 PM
He deliberately intended to injure Wentz.  There's no room in the game for that anymore.  It's been legislated out.  People have been fined and suspended for doing precisely what Clowney did to Wentz. 

He gets away with it for whatever reason while those who got penalized, fined and/or suspended did not.

The inconsistency is what's galling.   If that was Brady there would have been flags galore, Clowney would have been ejected and likely suspended immediately after the game.


Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Diomedes on January 07, 2020, 05:10:00 PM
Pereira has called it a cheap shot.  I like that terminology best so far.
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: General_Failure on January 07, 2020, 05:33:11 PM
Quote from: Don Ho on January 07, 2020, 03:40:54 PMI feel if Wentz stayed in the game it would have been close

It already was close.
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Eagaholic on January 07, 2020, 05:40:01 PM
From what I could hear over the sports bar din, Collingsworth spent half the broadcast gushing about how 'athletic' Clowney is, and how he has such body control and reflexes that allowed him to blow up plays in the backfield that others can't simply can't. And he's right - it's amazing what these world class athletes can do. And a lumbering 300 pound Beau Allen could have pulled up at the last second on a hit like that.
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: ice grillin you on January 07, 2020, 05:43:05 PM
Quote from: Diomedes on January 07, 2020, 05:10:00 PM
Pereira has called it a cheap shot.  I like that terminology best so far.

yeah how are you going to know what is in another persons head or heart to judge intent...i think he saw the opposing QB in the open field and went at him in a harder more dirty way they he may have someone else of another position but to say he was trying to hurt him is not something i am going to say...i think he lowered his head to cause a more powerful impact but i dont think he hit him int he head on purpose...he would have been just as happy driving him into the ground by hitting him in the back

but as i said the nfl should have the college rule where if a player intentional or not spears another players head then they are out of the game...because gaining 15 yards there becomes much bigger if the seahawks also lose clowney
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: General_Failure on January 07, 2020, 05:46:45 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on January 07, 2020, 05:43:05 PM
Quote from: Diomedes on January 07, 2020, 05:10:00 PM
Pereira has called it a cheap shot.  I like that terminology best so far.

yeah how are you going to know what is in another persons head or heart to judge intent

He should get the benefit of the doubt. It's not like he's been fined every year for the last five years for being dirty.
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: MDS on January 07, 2020, 07:14:24 PM
Quote from: Rome on January 07, 2020, 05:06:45 PM
He deliberately intended to injure Wentz.  There's no room in the game for that anymore.  It's been legislated out.  People have been fined and suspended for doing precisely what Clowney did to Wentz. 

He gets away with it for whatever reason while those who got penalized, fined and/or suspended did not.

The inconsistency is what's galling.   If that was Brady there would have been flags galore, Clowney would have been ejected and likely suspended immediately after the game.

this is classic over the top romey

its fair to say if brady gets hit like that theres a flag but other than that calm down

it shouldve been a 15 yarder but clowney aint out there trying to give a guy cte. its a lesser hit than what derek barnett did to jamal williams in week 4.
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Rome on January 07, 2020, 08:06:16 PM
He literally aimed his helmet at Wentz's head and speared him hard enough to cause a pretty severe concussion. 

He deliberately tried to injure Wentz.  He should have been carried off that field on a stretcher and he would have been if the Eagles had more football players and fewer bible thumping Hoydas. 
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: ice grillin you on January 07, 2020, 09:04:01 PM
again Brandon Graham does the same thing there's no injury intent at all and the targeting is excused because it was a split second play that no one could have avoided
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Diomedes on January 07, 2020, 09:29:01 PM
Derek Barnett on the other hand...
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Don Ho on January 08, 2020, 03:24:45 AM
Quote from: General_Failure on January 07, 2020, 05:33:11 PM
Quote from: Don Ho on January 07, 2020, 03:40:54 PMI feel if Wentz stayed in the game it would have been close

It already was close.

Close like 27-23, maybe a touchdown instead of a FG when it was 1st and goal on the 5, birds with a real chance at the end.  The old guy, and god bless him for his effort wasn't going to get it done.  Not with an ailing Ertz & three practice squad alumni at receiver.  Even when they got close both those times in Q4 you just had that gut feeling they weren't converting on 4th down or scoring.
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: ice grillin you on January 08, 2020, 08:28:07 AM
i dont have a ton of doubt that if wentz stays in the game they win

they were inside the what 25? four times and got three fg's

Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: QB Eagles on January 08, 2020, 09:00:19 AM
Yeah Wentz has some of the best red zone stats in the league. McCown played well for what he is but the Eagles are scoring more than 9 points if Wentz is in there.

We know this wasn't a Super Bowl team but it sucks to have been robbed of the opportunity to see how this game plays out, just as if it will be massively disappointing if any of the remaining 8 QBs get knocked out in Q1 next weekend. And Carson has to feel cursed with his team making the playoffs three straight years but only having a handful of snaps to show for it.
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Eagles_Legendz on January 08, 2020, 10:24:36 AM
They didn't punt once in the second half, nor turn the ball over, and they scored 6 points.  Hard to do.
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: ice grillin you on January 10, 2020, 11:41:50 AM
https://twitter.com/ThePhillyPod/status/1215257231635222528
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: ice grillin you on May 28, 2020, 08:02:00 PM
dats my stillupfront's mom

https://twitter.com/cj_wentz/status/1266138458340327424 21
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: MDS on May 28, 2020, 08:21:24 PM
if a jesus freak from north dakota can become a liberal than theres hope for everyone
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Rome on May 28, 2020, 08:27:33 PM
Other than his idiotic religious nonsense. I'm 100% on board with what he wrote. 
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Don Ho on May 29, 2020, 01:01:06 AM
QuoteFollower of Christ | Husband | Father | QB for the Philadelphia Eagles |

Adding that to my LinkedIn profile.
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Diomedes on August 30, 2020, 01:02:19 PM
Eagles announced that Wentz is day-to-day with a lower body injury.

Jalen Hurts era imminent.
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: General_Failure on August 30, 2020, 03:03:22 PM
Bought a penis pump so he could finally step out of Foles' shadow, and now look at him. Finally married, and he'll never have his three minutes of missionary ever again.
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: SD on August 31, 2020, 07:11:07 PM
https://twitter.com/PHLEaglesNation/status/1300528809070989313 20
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Diomedes on September 25, 2020, 12:45:47 PM
anyone care to disagree with this? 

https://twitter.com/espngreeny/status/1309147626974126082 21
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: SD on September 25, 2020, 12:54:03 PM
Nope

I'll give him a very slight pass on WFT...no run game, first game and no preseason, line was awful.

But against the Rams he had a running game and the line played really well. Forcing the ball to the worst wr in the league who's in double coverage in the end zone is inexcusable.
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: QB Eagles on September 25, 2020, 01:04:04 PM
He was great for the first 25 minutes of the season, since then he's been worse than anyone.
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Diomedes on September 25, 2020, 01:09:19 PM
Quote from: AO1 on September 25, 2020, 12:54:03 PMline was awful.

I dispute that.  More like, Washington D Line is all world, and Wentz played terribly. 

Go watch those 8 sacks again.  You can put one directly on Driscoll/Herbig mistake...and another squarely on Kelce for not picking up Bostic...otherwise, the six other sacks are at least partially if not entirely on Wentz for trying to super hero his way through, duck under, etc.  As Greenberg points out...he didnt' throw the ball away even once.
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: SD on September 25, 2020, 01:14:26 PM
Wentz wasn't good and held onto the ball too long, but even when he wasn't being sacked he was under duress. There was no running game whatsoever.
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: ice grillin you on September 25, 2020, 02:06:11 PM
Quote from: Diomedes on September 25, 2020, 01:09:19 PM
Quote from: AO1 on September 25, 2020, 12:54:03 PMline was awful.

I dispute that.  More like, Washington D Line is all world, and Wentz played terribly. 

it can be both and it was

for example if lane johnson plays its still bad but not nearly as bad

nuance is your friend
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Diomedes on September 25, 2020, 05:03:28 PM
Did you read my comments...I'm all nuance yo.  Line gave up a few, Wash is legit good, and Wentz was awful.  That's three factors I'm crediting.  Nuance galore.

The lack of nuance is calling the line play awful, which is just false.

Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: ice grillin you on September 25, 2020, 05:16:10 PM
since the game ended you've steady said it was all the wash line and a couple hours ago you literally wrote that you disputed that the eagle live was awful
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Diomedes on September 25, 2020, 08:06:52 PM
Since the game ended, I've said two or three sacks were  straight on the O line, the rest on Wentz holding the ball too long/Washington being legit good.  It's a a matter of record, everything I've said in the last two weeks is still there.  I don't care to quote chapter and verse.

In this thread, i object to the idea that you can explain the first game as "Oline was awful."  It's just not true.  Wentz was awful, the Wash D line was good to great, and the Oline gave up a couple easy ones. 

Order of responsibility/credit for that awful 8 sack game:

Wentz/
Wash D Line legit
O Line mistakes

The oline did not play 8-sack awful in that game, and to put them first (or worse, only) on the reasons for that would be ridiculous.

Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Diomedes on September 26, 2020, 07:50:27 AM
https://twitter.com/pff_seth/status/1309601465774862336 20
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: ice grillin you on September 26, 2020, 09:06:52 AM
I'm pretty sure there's no such thing as a dumb nfl QB
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: General_Failure on September 26, 2020, 09:53:04 AM
Then how do you explain Terry Bradshaw?
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: ice grillin you on October 02, 2020, 04:09:36 PM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EjUwI7tXgAAEkzW?format=jpg&name=small)
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: ice grillin you on October 04, 2020, 02:32:54 PM
add Justin Hebert to the list of qb's who gave lapped this pos
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on October 04, 2020, 03:37:03 PM
Yep. And he's got no receivers really either and they're making plays
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: QB Eagles on October 23, 2020, 12:35:02 AM
Not great or even good by any stretch but October was better than September. Looked more like the '18-'19 Wentz, whereas in September he looked like the worst QB in the NFL.

2017 Wentz is still missing in action. Have to assume he's not coming back.
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: MDS on October 23, 2020, 12:43:52 AM
that wentz was younger, sprier and healthier....plus they were rolling. super confident, beating the shtein out of bad teams for that oct-nov stretch. sorta gets lost in the story of the year is they pulled 3 early wins out that couldve gone the other way, then rolled over like terrible 49ers, cardinals, broncos, cowboys, wash. they were maybe a 9-10 win team that shtein broke the right way for.

case keenum looked good that year too
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: ice grillin you on October 23, 2020, 12:47:05 AM
what im torn about is that i want to excuse him for the play because they have no line and no weapons but then not like one time a game but like 5 times a game under no pressure he makes assinine plays that you can see he would do no matter who was playing in front and to the side of him...

so im so confused
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: QB Eagles on October 23, 2020, 01:02:25 AM
The difference between 2017 Wentz and a statistical anomaly like Case Keenum (or Foles for that matter) was the overall feeling of trust you got watching Wentz, the same feeling I get watching Rodgers or Wilson. That he was totally in command of the games, understood what he had to do on every play, consistently made right decisions, and every so often would do something freakishly heroic. No other Eagles QB in my lifetime had that MVP feeling and Wentz has not delivered it since that season either.

Like when you watch the Chiefs, even if Mahomes isn't putting up video game numbers or throwing no-look passes, you think they might lose, but it won't be because of that guy. That was Wentz for one season.
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on October 23, 2020, 01:43:59 PM
Accurate assessment there, I'd say. I am anxious to see what he's like when he's got a real NFL OL in front of him with the regular skill position players.

That won't solve some of his dumb hero ball mistakes or accuracy issues but maybe they'll be a little less common with the full compliment of players around him.
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: ice grillin you on October 23, 2020, 02:18:05 PM
i still cant believe the mistake he made on 3rd and 9 holding the ball for seven seconds inside the three yard line and still took a sack
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: MDS on October 23, 2020, 03:30:30 PM
the interception was worse...chucked it into triple coverage in the end zone

how he can do those 2 things, miss wildly on certain throws then calmly lead 2 td drives in the final 5 minutes with the capper being a dart to a midget is beyond me. inconsistent jesus freak ginger.
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: General_Failure on October 23, 2020, 08:29:31 PM
He grew up worshipping Jesus and Favre in that order. We got one year of Jesus, the rest he gets to Favre it up.
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: ice grillin you on October 23, 2020, 09:50:58 PM
Quote from: MDS on October 23, 2020, 03:30:30 PM
the interception was worse

it really wasn't...the end result was but not the play...watch him dance inside the 3 for seven seconds...it's truly something to behold
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: MDS on October 23, 2020, 11:04:24 PM
kinda arguing over nothing here but id rather he take a dumb sack and throw the ball into triple coverage especially in the red zone
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: QB Eagles on October 24, 2020, 12:39:44 AM
low point for me was that play where he backpedaled 30 yards and threw a jump ball across the field
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Eagaholic on October 24, 2020, 06:08:57 PM
There aren't many Wentz plays I'd call moronic, but that was the worst of them. I think it was 2nd down around the Giant's 20. It took points off the board unless Jesus told him Elliott wouldn't hit it anyway. Even then it's still dumb. When escaping pressure he often runs with a waddle or looks like a skater taking off, he needs to understand he isn't s fast as he thinks he is.
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Diomedes on October 24, 2020, 06:37:09 PM
If it looks like a duck and ducks like a duck and waddles like a duck.  It's a duck?
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Eagaholic on October 25, 2020, 07:42:49 AM
Quote from: Diomedes on October 24, 2020, 06:37:09 PM
If it looks like a duck and ducks like a duck and waddles like a duck.  It's a duck?
If Wentz goes out and hurts his knee on a play when a fowl should have been called but wasn't, and gets treated on the sidelines and sent back in by some quack, but still goes out and lays an egg anyway, and doug appeals the non-call BUT looses, does that set a lame duck precedent? Because I'm all IN with that.
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on November 16, 2020, 07:33:20 PM
The hounds are being released. And this is totally plausible and believable. Wentz is homies with Press Taylor. If he's not being held accountable and he's hero balling in practice and not honing his mechanics and decisions then here we sit.

https://twitter.com/mike_e_kaye/status/1328495133105516544 21
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: General_Failure on November 16, 2020, 08:12:40 PM
So grow a spine and fire his babysitter. It isn't that complicated.
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: QB Eagles on November 16, 2020, 09:52:15 PM
lol at all these explanations -- he doesn't practice right, he tries to do everything, he's not being coached well, he's not being held accountable (whatever that means)

maybe he's just not that good
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: General_Failure on November 16, 2020, 10:03:11 PM
Maybe Frank Reich took with him the brain the coaches shared when he left.
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: MDS on November 16, 2020, 10:36:47 PM
maybe hes an average qb on a bad team

average qbs on good teams can look really good sometimes! carson's season just happened to be in year 2 and made people assume he was an mvp level talent.
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: ice grillin you on November 23, 2020, 12:24:51 PM
QuoteOn plays with 0 pass rush wins -- meaning no defender beat his blocker within 2.5 seconds of the snap -- Carson Wentz has a QBR of 44. Dead last.
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: SD on November 23, 2020, 12:49:29 PM
Worst pocket awareness qb in history
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Zanshin on November 23, 2020, 03:18:41 PM
Inexcusably bad this year. I think it's more mental than physical, but regardless, he's simply not right. If they were smart, they'd give him some bullshtein injury designation to just give him little time to reset, because it's pointless to play him like this.
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Rome on November 23, 2020, 03:23:09 PM
They've coddled him enough.  Get it together or head out like a newborn.
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Diomedes on November 23, 2020, 04:05:41 PM
Quote from: Rome on November 23, 2020, 03:23:09 PM
They've coddled him enough.

Wholeheartedly agree.  The organization is a baby zone for players, especially old and expensive ones.
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Rome on November 23, 2020, 04:47:22 PM
No one respects loyalty more than I do but football is a cut throat business.  Imagine Belichick being sentimental with anyone. 

If you aren't getting the job done, bye.   Lurie doesn't have it in him to be ruthless.

Howie shtein the bed repeatedly since 2017 personnel-wise and Doug's luck has run out.

Time to move on from both of them. 
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: QB Eagles on November 23, 2020, 07:10:30 PM
The Eagles are so farged with the Wentz contract that the most realistic way for the team to be competitive again before 2024 is for Wentz to regain his form. There's like maybe a 5% chance of that happening tops and that's still more realistic than the other scenarios. If he is anything other than a good starting QB (whether he's a bad starter or a backup), his contract absolutely prevents them from fielding a competitive team. That's what is stopping them from benching him permanently, cause it would be giving up on any hope the team is good for years. The Eagles are not willing to do a Process-level rebuild and intentionally suck for that long.

I'd be all for a short-term benching to clear his head like what the team did with McNabb that one year, but I guess they fear that would farg his head up even more, and virtually guarantee his starting career is done. Especially if Hurts does okay and becomes the locker room favorite. So they're just gonna keep trotting him out there in the hopes he either turns it around or gets injured so they have some other excuse to bench him without seeming like they are giving up on him.

The situation with Howie or Doug is different. They could be fired tomorrow if Lurie thought it would help. Sentimentality/loyalty probably is the main thing keeping them in place right now. But they are contractually hitched to Wentz. They gave the NFL equivalent of a long-term supermax contract to a player who's not good.
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on November 23, 2020, 09:47:04 PM
If Wentz wasn't wearing the injury prone tag I'd be all for some phantom injury sitting him. But you've got that and then like QB said if Hurts comes in and balls ala Foles then Wentz is cooked mentally.

I think there's a shot Howie gets canned.
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: MDS on November 23, 2020, 09:57:48 PM
hurts isnt coming in and balling....he sucks

they know he sucks which is why they are running wentz out there even though hes playing at an insanely poor level
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: ice grillin you on November 23, 2020, 10:40:11 PM
yeah lol at hurts "ballin"
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on November 23, 2020, 10:44:57 PM
As bad as Wentz has been if Hurts came in and looked like a passable QB that's ballin
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: MDS on November 23, 2020, 10:47:45 PM
nate sudfeld would probably be better honestly
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: ice grillin you on November 23, 2020, 10:58:01 PM
under no circumstances should Wentz be benched before 2022
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Diomedes on November 24, 2020, 07:53:58 AM
He should be benched immediately and Hurts thrown to the wolves.  Entertain us goddamnit.
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Rome on November 24, 2020, 08:40:16 AM
Their O-Line is such a mess it really wouldn't matter who they put in there.  Wentz has been beyond awful but the line has been just as zesty.

Doug not altering his approach has been the killer, though.  Andy always used to say he wanted to put McNabb in the best position to succeed.  It seems like Doug feels the exact opposite of AO1.
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: ice grillin you on November 24, 2020, 08:44:53 AM
yeah Doug gotta go waaaaaay before you sit Wentz...in fact I have faith in Wentz possibly returning to mvp form with a good coach
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: QB Eagles on November 30, 2020, 10:12:15 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OD2qmLoMh4k
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: SD on December 20, 2020, 12:46:23 PM
https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/30562357/sources-carson-wentz-not-interested-being-backup-qb-want-move-philadelphia-eagles-jalen-hurts-remains-starter

Can we start a go fund me for airfare
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Rome on December 20, 2020, 12:56:31 PM
If you can't be bothered to fight through adversary, you're not worthy of being a team leader in the first place.

Audience of one indeed. 
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: SD on December 20, 2020, 01:34:40 PM
Quote from: Rome on December 20, 2020, 12:56:31 PM
If you can't be bothered to fight through adversary, you're not worthy of being a team leader in the first place.

Audience of one indeed.

Was pretty obvious the team had no confidence in him and played with some emotion once Hurts came in. Wentz is not tradeable and unreleasable so it's really the worst possible scenario playing out. After next season it becomes a bit more realistic: https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/agents-take-are-carson-wentzs-eagles-days-numbered-a-closer-examination-of-his-contract-tells-the-story/

My prediction: he starts next season and plays better. Maybe not 2017 Wentz but average. Possibly ship him to Indy so he can have prayer sessions with Reich. Groom Hurts I guess. Don't see him as a SB winning qb but who knows.
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on December 20, 2020, 01:36:08 PM
I'm tired of this story already.
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: QB Eagles on December 20, 2020, 01:39:49 PM
What he wants is not really relevant. Unless he's willing to void his contract, which I'm sure the team would be happy to oblige.
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: General_Failure on December 20, 2020, 01:47:13 PM
Has he considered a noble career in firefighting?
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Diomedes on December 20, 2020, 01:50:35 PM
lol at literally the worst NFL qb of 2020 talking about what he is and isn't interested in doing
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Eagaholic on December 20, 2020, 02:26:41 PM
QB factory of sadness has their new poster boy.
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: SD on December 20, 2020, 05:43:23 PM
Take back what I posted earlier...Hurts starts next year...Wentz becomes the most expensive backup in world history
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on January 03, 2021, 10:53:28 AM
Mort says the relationship is fractured and Wentz will be asking for a trade

Rapoport says that he wants to go to Indy

Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: General_Failure on January 03, 2021, 11:28:00 AM
What kind of picks would the Eagles have to give up to make that happen?
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: SD on January 03, 2021, 11:40:58 AM
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on January 03, 2021, 10:53:28 AM
Mort says the relationship is fractured and Wentz will be asking for a trade

Rapoport says that he wants to go to Indy

He wants to have prayer sessions with Reich

https://overthecap.com/the-eagles-options-with-carson-wentz/

Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: QB Eagles on January 03, 2021, 11:52:45 AM
People who think Wentz will be traded to the Colts:
Wentz
Eagles fans

People who don't think Wentz will be traded to the Colts:
Anyone who cares about or knows anything about the Colts
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: General_Failure on January 03, 2021, 12:34:55 PM
Hey now, maybe Reich suffers some brain damage between now and the draft. Anything is possible.
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on January 03, 2021, 01:24:10 PM
Wentz's level of bitchmade whining during this is ridiculous.

Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Diomedes on January 03, 2021, 01:29:53 PM
If he's asking for a trade, he better be willing to hand back money to make it possible. 

Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: General_Failure on January 03, 2021, 01:38:12 PM
I want to say the NFLPA won't let him do that.
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Rome on January 03, 2021, 01:42:00 PM
Imagine having a "leader" who refuses to battle for his position as a starter.  They always go well, right?

What a little bitch.
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: ice grillin you on January 03, 2021, 01:42:18 PM
Quote from: General_Failure on January 03, 2021, 01:38:12 PM
I want to say his wife won't let him do that.
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: General_Failure on January 03, 2021, 01:43:37 PM
He got his bonus, it's not like he's going to keep playing long enough to reach the end of the contract.
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: MDS on January 03, 2021, 01:43:45 PM
no shot he can give back money...he can re work the deal to help the cap hit but the damage is done there

all he can do is basically refuse to play for the eagles. come out like a man and say im done trade me and if you dont im not showing up, feel free to fine me to the cows come home. otherwise hes qb1 in 2021
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: General_Failure on January 03, 2021, 01:46:53 PM
At least until he gets hurt again.
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: ice grillin you on January 03, 2021, 02:04:26 PM
Quote from: General_Failure on January 03, 2021, 01:43:37 PM
He got his bonus

well yeah...and thats what hed have to give part of back to make a trade work...hes obviously not going to do it but if he truly wants to be traded that would be the quickest way to make it happen...
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on January 03, 2021, 02:07:19 PM
Yep that'll be the tell how bad the little shtein wants out. Don't want to give up money? Then shut the farg up, grab your nuts and compete for the job. Softbatch bum
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: General_Failure on January 03, 2021, 02:22:23 PM
I really hope the whole Wentz saga is the catalyst for the end of stupid huge quarterback contracts.
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: QB Eagles on January 03, 2021, 02:22:45 PM
By all means deal Wentz if you can, but I don't think you can. Howie will need some kind of Passover miracle.

So my guess is not only will he be back, he will be the presumptive starter unless he is obviously broken in training camp. The team has so many things working against them next season that they might as well run it back. If by some insane miracle Doug and Wentz get their shtein straight and pull a productive season out of their asses, the crisis is averted. More realistically the season is used to turn around the team financially, land a sweet draft pick for 2022, and set things up to start the rebuild under a new coach in 2022. Give Hurts some run over the second half of the season again and see if there's any justification to build around him or whether they're back in the QB market in 2022 or 2023.
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on January 03, 2021, 03:06:45 PM
Yep.

And while I'm massively annoyed at his demeanor and attitude I don't think he's totally broken. The anchor of a contract means he's here. Unless Howie says farg it and knows the cap is farged so he just eats it anyways.

Fix the OL aka get healthy
Add another top WR via draft and some other playmakers
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Rome on January 03, 2021, 05:24:05 PM
Now we know what AO1 really means.   Little funhole.
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Diomedes on January 03, 2021, 06:53:20 PM
I'd have some sympathy for this dude if his play wasn't so individually awful.  Injuries, lack of talented support, pedestrian play calling... All these were evident and good reason for his 2020 to be poorly affected . But he was awful in addition to these things, he was bad in his own right.  If he doesn't see that.. farg him.
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: SD on January 03, 2021, 06:57:36 PM
Quote from: Diomedes on January 03, 2021, 06:53:20 PM
I'd have some sympathy for this dude if his play wasn't so individually awful.  Injuries, lack of talented support, pedestrian play calling... All these were evident and good reason for his 2020 to be poorly affected . But he was awful in addition to these things, he was bad in his own right.  If he doesn't see that.. farg him.

All of this. Probably wouldn't look as bad if Hurts didn't come in and show pocket awareness and the ability to scan the field and somewhat read a defense and make progressions. I can't stand Hurts throwing mechanics but his accuracy and velocity are better than I thought they'd be.
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: General_Failure on January 03, 2021, 07:54:37 PM
It's a nonzero chance that Wentz never plays a meaningful game of football again. An even larger chance that he never plays well again.
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Eagaholic on January 03, 2021, 11:36:24 PM
I don't know how you can knock wentz. He was correctly predicting an audience of 1 long before covid ever hit, and that's about how many were in the stands.
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: ice grillin you on January 17, 2021, 01:51:35 PM
outstanding article....

https://www.inquirer.com/eagles/carson-wentz-eagles-regression-doug-pederson-press-taylor-howie-roseman-20210116.html
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Diomedes on January 18, 2021, 09:01:53 AM
All of that goes back to Lurie, of course. 

All these years I've disdained Snyder et al., and ignored the fact that the Eagles owner, though not a racist bully, is a hapless leaders of a dysfunctional operation.

Howie needs to go but so does Lurie. 
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Don Ho on January 18, 2021, 04:23:32 PM
He needs to go back to promoting matinees, reclining seats, buttered popcorn and jujyfruits.
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: SD on January 18, 2021, 05:55:16 PM
I've bashed Lurie relentlessly and if he sold the team I wouldn't shed a tear but I made a pact with myself to stop being so critical of him as long as the Eagles won a SB before I died. Honestly never thought I'd see it. Howie on the other hand can farg off.
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: SD on February 05, 2021, 11:14:02 AM
Les Bowen reporting a Wentz trade is close
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: ice grillin you on February 05, 2021, 11:19:01 AM
there must be some serious venom between the two sides for the eagles to trade him

because trading him imo is an absolutely insane move
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: MDS on February 05, 2021, 12:12:06 PM
he might go down as a bigger bitch than donovan

never got past nick winning the SB then doing better than he did in 2018...drafting hurts was the nail in the coffin. he always feels hes going to be looking over his shoulder.

meanwhile aaron rodgers' replacement was drafted and he won the mvp. you can go one way or the other
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: General_Failure on February 05, 2021, 12:59:46 PM
Rodgers learned not to do from watching Favre bitch his way out of town. Also he's a weirdo who just loves football and not Jesus then football.
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on February 05, 2021, 01:24:25 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on February 05, 2021, 11:19:01 AM
there must be some serious venom between the two sides for the eagles to trade him

because trading him imo is an absolutely insane move

Yep.

Totally dumb.

Even more so because part of the reason they shtein canned Doug was that relationship between the two.
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: ice grillin you on February 05, 2021, 01:33:02 PM
doug was a pos that had to go separate from his relationship with carson so that isnt an issue

its dumb because there is an infinitely higher chance he becomes a top 10 quarterback again than him being forever like he was this year and after all you invested in him you are going to sell him when his value is as low as it can possibly get?

i dont even necessarily wanna kill howie for doing it because i think that is just how torched their relationship is and this is an admission of that and howie basically saying it is not salvageable but its also kind of an admission that howie knows this roster is going to be one of the worst in the league for the foreseeable future...i dont think wentz gets moved if they were even close to being a contender...they basically are blowing up the team
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on February 05, 2021, 01:36:24 PM
It has to be said how bitchmade Wentz is too - the relationship is only torched bc he could not accept getting benched while he was one of the worst in the NFL
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Diomedes on February 05, 2021, 01:41:54 PM
If a trade happens it's proof that he could/should have been kept and rehabilitated.

If one doesn't it's proof that he's garbage and should have been traded at any cost.

Have I got that right?
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: ice grillin you on February 05, 2021, 01:51:35 PM
Quote from: Diomedes on February 05, 2021, 01:41:54 PM
If a trade happens it's proof that he could/should have been kept and rehabilitated.

If one doesn't it's proof that he's garbage and should have been traded at any cost.

Have I got that right?

actually in sports its how you play on the field

like...

2017 wentz great
2020 wentz garbage

see how that works?

you keep and rehabilitate hoping for 2017 or at least 80% of 2017...especially when there is almost zero value in trading him right now

imo howie has a scale on his desk and on one side of the scale is wentz's mental midgetness and just his overall irksome dickheadedness and on the other side is we are going to suck with or without wentz and if all reports are true that side of the scale has won the day

Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on February 05, 2021, 01:36:24 PM
It has to be said how bitchmade Wentz is too - the relationship is only torched bc he could not accept getting benched while he was one of the worst in the NFL

totally...if this whole thing isnt 100% on wentz its damn close
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: QB Eagles on February 05, 2021, 02:05:07 PM
Quote from: General_Failure on February 05, 2021, 12:59:46 PM
Rodgers learned not to do from watching Favre bitch his way out of town. Also he's a weirdo who just loves football and not Jesus then football.

Rodgers is still a bitch too. He's just really good at football, unlike Wentz in 2020.
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: General_Failure on February 05, 2021, 02:17:10 PM
That's all anyone really wants.
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: SD on February 05, 2021, 02:52:33 PM
Wonder if there's any chance of a swap for Watson. The Texans are a dumber franchise than the Eagles and they probably overvalue a white qb
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: QB Eagles on February 05, 2021, 02:54:41 PM
Think their odds of getting Watson are around the same as getting Mahomes.
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: MDS on February 05, 2021, 04:43:57 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on February 05, 2021, 01:51:35 PMtotally...if this whole thing isnt 100% on wentz its damn close

i want to punt carson in a pot of holy water as much as anyone but the team gets a bunch of blame. to go from mega-extension to "he has to go" in a farging year is impressive
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: General_Failure on February 05, 2021, 05:28:20 PM
Wentz and Doug didn't draft a quarterback after giving a hojillion dollar contract to a different quarterback. At some point Howie has got to go.
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Don Ho on February 05, 2021, 05:34:52 PM
Doug gone - Check
Ginger gone - getting close to Check
Howie gone - hoping to check that box off in the next 365 days
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: ice grillin you on February 05, 2021, 05:35:57 PM
Quote from: MDS on February 05, 2021, 04:43:57 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on February 05, 2021, 01:51:35 PMtotally...if this whole thing isnt 100% on wentz its damn close

i want to punt carson in a pot of holy water as much as anyone but the team gets a bunch of blame. to go from mega-extension to "he has to go" in a farging year is impressive


if by has to go you mean cause of play in the field then I'd agree

I believe Wentz has forced their hand via the off the field stuff...Im still not sure howie will trade him but even if he does it's not going to be because he wants to it's going to be because he feels he has to cause the relationship isn't salvageable...

Wentz is the biggest thing howie has ever done in terms of personnel decisions...that's HIS guy...the fear alone of him going somewhere else and being successful has to be enough to not deal him not to mention they have zero plan b so if they trade him shtein has truly gotten hellaciously bad

Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Rome on February 05, 2021, 05:47:31 PM
I won't be sad to see him and his holy roller routine gone.

The AO1 thing has always bugged the farg out of me.  Probably because I'm anti-religious, but yeah, he sucks at football too, so bye. 
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: MDS on February 05, 2021, 06:06:32 PM
hes 100% gone...if he was staying we wouldve known by now.

its my *guess* this is all cropping up because howie is getting a justifiable return (a 1 and change) and can parlay that with "well he didnt want to be here anymore, we wanted him but..." to save his ass, so he put out the smoke signals to rapoport and schefter

i cant believe philadelphia chewed up and spit him out quicker than donovan who literally puked on the field
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: ice grillin you on February 05, 2021, 06:41:55 PM
bedwetter never had a season where he was literally the worst QB in the league

he cried about not be appreciated enough sure...but imagine someone whining after having an epically bad season coming off signing a massive contract...that takes some balls
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on February 05, 2021, 06:47:30 PM
I cannot get over how butthurt he is.

Like how do you, as a professional athlete, look at yourself on film and think "man, I played good" when he was literally one of the worst QBs in the game?

But to trade him when he has shown he is much better than that 2020 season is insane. Especially with a new staff coming in. Maybe they get him right? Or maybe he's sad that his BFF Press isn't coming back.

Whatever. If they have to deal him lets just hope that 1) Howie isn't raked over the coals in a deal and 2) he doesn't end up somewhere and become an MVP.
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: General_Failure on February 05, 2021, 08:36:31 PM
You trade him because he's shown no willingness to improve and is currently terrible.
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: MDS on February 05, 2021, 09:11:45 PM
few reporters indicating its close

i have to imagine howie wasnt going to do this without a 1 being the start of conversations
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on February 05, 2021, 10:29:23 PM
It'll be funny if he ends up in Chicago with BDN
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Diomedes on February 05, 2021, 10:37:23 PM
How funny will it be if the Eagles get Foles back?
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: General_Failure on February 05, 2021, 10:44:02 PM
Immediate upgrade at QB, at least.
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Diomedes on February 05, 2021, 10:48:03 PM
Dear lord, then we'd have to hear about Hurts' precious confidence.
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: General_Failure on February 05, 2021, 11:07:13 PM
Spoilers: Hurts isn't getting a big contract extension ever.
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: ice grillin you on February 06, 2021, 12:12:33 AM
yeah hurtz ceiling is best back up in the league
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Don Ho on February 06, 2021, 05:42:51 AM
the sooner we all face that the better.  Despite the smartest man in the football universe thinking he got the next Russel Wilson, Hurts will be an adequate backup, that is all.  Maybe he'll get a Nick Foles moment and go on a nice playoff run if someone gets injured. 

Nice if Zach Wilson falls to 6 but he's climbing everyone's draft board.
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: MDS on February 06, 2021, 11:17:36 AM
hurts has a little higher ceiling than backup...its rare to drastically improve your accuracy (josh allen did it), but if he can do that he's not far away from tier 2/3 starter. which makes him fairly valuable while on a rookie deal.

of course none of that really matters. the plan is to trade wentz, bottom out and land at the top of the draft in 2022
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: ice grillin you on February 06, 2021, 11:32:58 AM
hurts main problem isnt accuracy (it is a problem) as much as there are so many nfl throws he cant make...thats primarily why his completion % is heinous not cause the ball is rarely where it needs to be...he was more accurate in college cause he was running out of a pistol and making mostly high % throws against college players that were inferior to his

hurts is limited by talent something josh allen oozes

hurts is a perfect back-up because in an in game replacement scenario you can run packages for him that the defense didnt prepare a lick for and in a 1 or 2 game scenario you can get away with the stuff he does in a small sample...as a starter tho the guy isnt the answer
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: SD on February 06, 2021, 02:51:23 PM
Hurts definitely has talent I just don't know if he could develop into a QB who could lead them to a SB. He has a much better personality than Wentz, is more of a leader, and the team clearly responded to him once he was made the starter. I'm willing to give him a few years to see if there's anything there.

Rumors swirling the Bears are the leading team - which makes sense...if they can somehow keep ARob and turn Wentz around they could make some noise. They seem to be fed up with the qb carousel but Defillipo is there and Wentz reportedly had issues with him. If Howie can pull a 1st I'd call it a win. Anything beyond that is gravy.
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: QB Eagles on February 06, 2021, 03:16:04 PM
Hurts is nothing special and shouldn't have anything to do with what the Eagles choose to do about Wentz.
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Rome on February 06, 2021, 03:33:55 PM
If Roseman gets two firsts for Wentz I will kiss his ass on top of Billy Pena's hat.
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: General_Failure on February 06, 2021, 03:48:11 PM
The downside is Howie will be making the draft selections.
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: SD on February 06, 2021, 03:54:16 PM
QuoteA trade shipping Eagles quarterback Carson Wentz out of Philadelphia is expected to happen soon, sources tell ESPN's Chris Mortensen and Adam Schefter.

When Mort and Schefty report it it's legit close
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: QB Eagles on February 06, 2021, 03:57:45 PM
Predictions:
It happens Tuesday
It's the Bears
A single 1st
BDN is in the trade
Bears fans riot
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: ice grillin you on February 06, 2021, 03:59:04 PM
Shefty is straight garbage...he never reports shtein...he basically gives a non specific most vague possible answer on everything like he's scared to be wrong

for example...

https://twitter.com/adamschefter/status/1358147327282806787 21
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: SD on February 06, 2021, 04:00:53 PM
Quote from: QB Eagles on February 06, 2021, 03:16:04 PM
Hurts is nothing special and shouldn't have anything to do with what the Eagles choose to do about Wentz.

Too early to say that...I hated the pick but he played better than I thought he would. He has the tools and mentality just don't know if he can translate that into a top qb. I don't think his accuracy is as bad as what's being made out. I'm willing to give him one full year as a starter before making a judgment
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: ice grillin you on February 06, 2021, 04:03:18 PM
what??  He was mostly awful and that's with no book on him
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: QB Eagles on February 06, 2021, 04:04:45 PM
Hurts could easily be the starter next year if they don't like who's left available in the draft, I just don't think you make any decision on Wentz on the assumption that Hurts is part of the long term solution.

They have nine figures tied up in Wentz. If you think he's irrevocably broken or the relationship is unfixable, you ship him out and get back what you can. Otherwise you keep him. What they do isn't really driven by who is quarterbacking the team in '21. They aren't winning the Super Bowl next season. Or many other games.
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: SD on February 06, 2021, 04:08:14 PM
Quote from: Rome on February 06, 2021, 03:33:55 PM
If Roseman gets two firsts for Wentz I will kiss his ass on top of Billy Pena's hat.

Pure speculation with the rumors I'm reading but it seems a 1st, a mid round pick and maybe Foles back if it's the Bears. Some guy with sources said the Bears threw a low ball offer then the Colts topped that and the Bears doubled down. I'd rather not have Foles back - love me some BDN - but he'd just be a distraction. Same guy said Eagles wanted something similar to what the Lions got for Stanford. Who knows. I'd be thrilled with a 1st.
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: General_Failure on February 06, 2021, 04:10:08 PM
Quote from: QB Eagles on February 06, 2021, 03:57:45 PM
Predictions:
It happens Tuesday
It's the Bears
A single 1st
BDN is in the trade
Bears fans riot

If it is the Bears, Foles is in the deal regardless. There's no chance Wentz will want to be on the same team as him again.
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: SD on February 06, 2021, 04:11:53 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on February 06, 2021, 04:03:18 PM
what??  He was mostly awful and that's with no book on him

He had his bad moments he also had his good ones. Like I said before...I'd like to see him get a year as a starter. They ain't winning shtein next season so who cares. Unless the Birds are trading up from 6 I don't see the damage
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: MDS on February 06, 2021, 04:12:14 PM
schefter does the bidding of execs/agents...he is basically a league employee and a mouthpiece for them at that

the fact that he zero details, just some nonsense about it being close leads me to believe this is coming from howie and is trying to get like indy to throw in an extra 3
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: QB Eagles on February 06, 2021, 04:18:43 PM
The league never breaks news Super Bowl weekend, they want everything to be about the game. So even if it's a done deal the parties would agree to wait until next week to leak confirmation and details. Same reason Brees hasn't announced retirement even though he's obviously retiring.
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: MDS on February 06, 2021, 06:57:17 PM
if anti howie shtein is making its way to mike miss' update girl, you know its bad

https://twitter.com/NatalieEgenolf/status/1358171128766808064
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: ice grillin you on February 06, 2021, 08:27:28 PM
QuoteEagles are asking for two 1s for Carson Wentz, which has led to some dial tones, including from one team previously perceived to be a favored landing spot.
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: SD on February 06, 2021, 09:47:15 PM
Quote from: MDS on February 06, 2021, 06:57:17 PM
if anti howie shtein is making its way to mike miss' update girl, you know its bad

He sucks at drafting
Cap is a farging disaster
The roster is old as farg
They have little young talent
He's been at this since Obama's first term

He seemed like the obvious choice to go
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: General_Failure on February 06, 2021, 09:53:21 PM
Have you considered that he's friends with the owner, though?
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: MDS on February 06, 2021, 09:54:29 PM
take fwiw but mike miss' update girl is now saying its close with chicago...1+player+bdn

Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: General_Failure on February 06, 2021, 09:56:02 PM
The fact that they're getting anything is a minor miracle. It's nice that there's still teams dumber than this one.
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: ice grillin you on February 06, 2021, 10:07:43 PM
your Wentz hate gf is starting to scare me and I'm the all time number one hater of things

Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: General_Failure on February 06, 2021, 10:09:15 PM
I know a stubborn, spiteful man who watched someone else take the victory lap for his hard work when I see one.
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: SD on February 06, 2021, 11:16:40 PM
Quote from: MDS on February 06, 2021, 09:54:29 PM
take fwiw but mike miss' update girl is now saying its close with chicago...1+player+bdn

She's saying a 1st, Tarik Cohen and BDN. Cohen said he spoke to the coach and GM and he ain't goin nowhere. Her source is probably some dude trying to bang her.
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: ice grillin you on February 06, 2021, 11:21:33 PM
Quote from: Dre Day on February 06, 2021, 11:16:40 PM
Quote from: MDS on February 06, 2021, 09:54:29 PM
take fwiw but mike miss' update girl is now saying its close with chicago...1+player+bdn

She's saying a 1st, Tarik Cohen and BDN. Cohen said he spoke to the coach and GM and he ain't goin nowhere. Her source is probably some dude trying to bang her.

lol....precisely

she has exactly zero sources farging wannabe diana russini
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: General_Failure on February 06, 2021, 11:43:45 PM
People were saying Cohen because he wiped his Instagram, but someone who keeps up with that sort of thing said he did that a while ago.
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on February 07, 2021, 12:13:12 AM
What a world we live in with Natalie Stroganoff having "sources".

And yeah we all know that Howie is the problem. Anonymous sources aren't changing Jeff's mind. Hell people could go on the record saying Howie is a problem and Lurie wouldn't give a shtein.

Foles coming back means people will scream for him to start. Wonder if Jalen will get all Wentzy and cry?
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: MDS on February 07, 2021, 12:15:58 AM
Quote from: Dre Day on February 06, 2021, 11:16:40 PMShe's saying a 1st, Tarik Cohen and BDN. Cohen said he spoke to the coach and GM and he ain't goin nowhere. Her source is probably some dude trying to bang her.

ive had some people tell me she is even hotter in person

goes without saying but she will be the last person to find out if a trade goes down and that includes everyone who doesnt even follow sports
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: ice grillin you on February 07, 2021, 12:28:39 AM
Quote from: MDS on February 07, 2021, 12:15:58 AM
ive had some people tell me she is even hotter in person

people think shes hot? this is why philly gets clowned on...cause they fawn over trash like her...my local hanover md fridays on any random nite has at least 3 girls hotter than her

shes legit borderline ugly and that takes a lot for me to say about a media personality
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: MDS on February 07, 2021, 12:33:42 AM
people like dem titties
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: SD on February 07, 2021, 12:59:09 AM
Quote from: MDS on February 07, 2021, 12:15:58 AM
Quote from: Dre Day on February 06, 2021, 11:16:40 PMShe's saying a 1st, Tarik Cohen and BDN. Cohen said he spoke to the coach and GM and he ain't goin nowhere. Her source is probably some dude trying to bang her.

ive had some people tell me she is even hotter in person

goes without saying but she will be the last person to find out if a trade goes down and that includes everyone who doesnt even follow sports

She looks better on tv than in person. She has a mass following of stalkers. The station has to hire personal security for events she attends.
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: ice grillin you on February 07, 2021, 01:16:53 AM
Quote from: Dre Day on February 07, 2021, 12:59:09 AM
She looks better on tv than in person. She has a mass following of stalkers. The station has to hire personal security for events she attends.

this is my point why philly will always be a second rate city...also everyone looks better on tv cause they have a team dedicated to making you look better
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on February 07, 2021, 02:28:43 AM
Nah every city has those weirdos.

The cringiest ones are the wackos who tweet stalker shtein to the local news women...like they've got some shot.
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Rome on February 07, 2021, 07:20:45 AM
Quote from: ice grillin you on February 07, 2021, 12:28:39 AM
my local hanover md fridays on any random nite has at least 3 girls hotter than her

After the pandemic is over I'm coming up there to hang out with you cause I gotta see you in a Friday's.
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: SD on February 07, 2021, 08:54:29 AM
Eskins reporting the same trade as Nat so we know it's 100% bullshtein. Not that it's happening but Cohen would make zero sense. He's the type of player a contender trades for to add another weapon as a change of pace/spark plug plus he's coming off a torn acl. I'd rather a mid round pick Howie can farg up than a player.
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: ice grillin you on February 07, 2021, 09:38:45 AM
Quote from: Rome on February 07, 2021, 07:20:45 AM
Quote from: ice grillin you on February 07, 2021, 12:28:39 AM
my local hanover md fridays on any random nite has at least 3 girls hotter than her

After the pandemic is over I'm coming up there to hang out with you cause I gotta see you in a Friday's.

you'll be the second white person to ever enter
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: ice grillin you on February 07, 2021, 09:42:49 AM
Quote from: Dre Day on February 07, 2021, 08:54:29 AM
Eskins reporting the same trade as Nat so we know it's 100% bullshtein. Not that it's happening but Cohen would make zero sense. He's the type of player a contender trades for to add another weapon as a change of pace/spark plug plus he's coming off a torn acl. I'd rather a mid round pick Howie can farg up than a player.

yeah players do nothing for them...they are in full rebuild...that's a big part of why they are moving Wentz to begin with...if it could get me an extra one I'd even be willing to not get any 2021 picks...they need to stockpile as many picks as possible over the next three years
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: General_Failure on February 07, 2021, 10:07:21 AM
In an ideal world Howie is accumulating draft picks in 2021 and 2022 for his replacement.
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: MDS on February 07, 2021, 11:47:58 AM
realistically they arent going to be good in 21 or even 22, so yes grabbing picks in 22/23 make the most sense when you can start stockpiling cap space and draft capital at the same time

id seriously consider trading miles sanders right now for that matter
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: General_Failure on February 07, 2021, 11:58:52 AM
Send Fletcher Cox to the Rams while they're in panic Win Now mode as long as you get some picks out of it.
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: QB Eagles on February 07, 2021, 12:00:03 PM
Bears fans generally consider both Cohen and Foles to be major disappointments. If either of them is part of the trade (and I give zero credibility to those tweets), they are basically just throw-ins to get them off the Bears' books, not something being given to the Eagles in lieu of draft picks.
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: MDS on February 07, 2021, 02:24:58 PM
cohen makes no money...foles really doesnt either but wentz will go poopy in his pants if he so much as sees him, so if they are indeed trading for wentz BDN is either in the deal or being cut

foles as some kind of backup to hurts is sensible if not utterly ridiculous
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: General_Failure on February 07, 2021, 02:55:38 PM
For one bright, shining season, Foles as good a backup as you could ask for.
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Don Ho on February 07, 2021, 06:54:39 PM
Good god NO on Cohen.  WTF!  Another 5'6 running back. 
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: General_Failure on February 07, 2021, 06:57:18 PM
Any players in the deal will be "here, shut up and take this guy we were going to cut anyway" players.
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: phattymatty on February 07, 2021, 10:11:39 PM
is there really someone named Natalie stroganoff?
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: SD on February 07, 2021, 10:14:29 PM
Quote from: phattymatty on February 07, 2021, 10:11:39 PM
is there really someone named Natalie stroganoff?

She's related to Joey Bagadonuts
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: General_Failure on February 07, 2021, 10:23:43 PM
So we can expect the trade announcement tomorrow now that the Brady Invitational is over, right?
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: SD on February 07, 2021, 10:32:40 PM
Quote from: General_Failure on February 07, 2021, 10:23:43 PM
So we can expect the trade announcement tomorrow now that the Brady Invitational is over, right?

Thinking Tuesday...the nfl needs a full 24 hours to commemorate Brady
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on February 07, 2021, 11:41:11 PM
Quote from: phattymatty on February 07, 2021, 10:11:39 PM
is there really someone named Natalie stroganoff?

Egenoff
Stroganoff
Egg nogg
All the same
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: General_Failure on February 08, 2021, 01:00:50 PM
Rumors are going around that the Broncos have jumped in on the Wentz train. He's tall and white, so that checks out.
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Don Ho on February 08, 2021, 05:41:54 PM
Jesus he totally fits the Broncos QB family tree.  Plummer, Tebow, Lynch (WTF ever happened to him?), Osweiler, Flaco, etc.
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: ice grillin you on February 08, 2021, 09:11:24 PM
QuoteCarson Wentz is on good terms with everyone in the Eagles organization, including Jeffery Lurie and Nick Sirianni, and has been in contact with both.

However, Wentz is refusing to answer any of Howie's calls. His issues appear to be solely with Howie.
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: General_Failure on February 08, 2021, 09:13:32 PM
Are those good relations fixing his regressing mechanics?
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: SD on February 08, 2021, 09:16:07 PM
If it's either Howie or Wentz staying I'll take Wentz

Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: QB Eagles on February 08, 2021, 09:19:39 PM
Maybe I should temper my expectations since he believes in a guy who lives in the sky, but I thought most people outgrow ghosting people sometime around age 15.
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Diomedes on February 09, 2021, 08:15:44 AM
Ghosting people appears to be standard operating procedure in most matters anymore.

PFT reporting that the Eagles are unsatisfied with the offer(s) they've received for the little prince so far.
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Rome on February 09, 2021, 09:59:19 AM
Howie is his boss.  If I said 'farg you' to mine the way Wentz is, I'd be fired in a minute.

It's absolutely absurd. 
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Diomedes on February 09, 2021, 10:03:00 AM
If you had half the talent in your profession that Wentz has in his...
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Zanshin on February 09, 2021, 10:27:40 AM
Quote from: Diomedes on February 09, 2021, 10:03:00 AM
If you had half the talent in your profession that Wentz has in his...

...then he'd also be one of the worst statistical performers in his field?
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Rome on February 09, 2021, 11:37:41 AM
Quote from: Diomedes on February 09, 2021, 10:03:00 AM
If you had half the talent in your profession that Wentz has in his...

I'm actually pretty good at what I do. 

Regardless, he's acting like an entitled bitch and in almost any other profession his prima-donna bullshtein would get him a pink slip and a foot in the ass in his way out the door.

Fact is he needs to grow the farg up and stop acting as if he's somehow special.  Because he really isn't.

Also - and I can't stress this enough... neither is Roseman.  Fire his ass too. 
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Diomedes on February 09, 2021, 11:44:18 AM
Yea yeah....

Wentz has power that you don't, and he's using it.  Waah.
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: MDS on February 09, 2021, 12:14:09 PM
how many people does this bring that have legit beef with roseman

i lost count after ed marynowitz
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: SD on February 09, 2021, 12:16:43 PM
Yet the only one who got over on him was Chip Kelly
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Rome on February 09, 2021, 01:35:31 PM
Quote from: Diomedes on February 09, 2021, 11:44:18 AM
Yea yeah....

Wentz has power that you don't, and he's using it.  Waah.

I can walk out the door right now and make what I make anywhere.  The reason is I have the education, skills, experience and professional reputation to do so, same as you, Dio.

He, on the other hand, is damaged goods and his petulant reputation will backfire on him as soon as everyone realizes his physical skills have eroded.
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Diomedes on February 09, 2021, 01:44:08 PM
meh, speak for yourself.

i'm a hack

If I were half as good at what I do as Wentz is at what he does, I'd be neck deep in work, billing $175 per hour for myself, $125 per man for my carpentry crew, and turning away clients I don't like

instead, I'm rebuilding utility shed ramps and limping along in a pic up truck that decides often and unpredictably to forget it has gears one two and three

Congrats to you on your awesomeness.

I happen to agree that Wentz is acting the fool, but he's got leverage against the Eagles and if I can forget for half a second that I don't like him personally, then I can't fault him using it...God knows the corporate overlords would and will use every bit they have against him
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Don Ho on February 10, 2021, 06:00:39 PM
Ok Howie, let's go!  You're killing us.
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Don Ho on February 10, 2021, 06:10:33 PM
Mort saying birds very interested in Mariota
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: General_Failure on February 10, 2021, 06:19:59 PM
Howie's gonna farg around and the Bears are just going to go get Watson.
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: QB Eagles on February 10, 2021, 07:51:20 PM
Quote from: Don Ho on February 10, 2021, 06:10:33 PM
Mort saying birds very interested in Mariota

Cool we can add to the 47 page thread about him.
https://www.concretefield.info/forum/index.php?topic=21750.0
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Rome on February 10, 2021, 08:17:24 PM
I forgot about that idiotic thread.   Thanks for reminding me, icehole.   🖕🏻
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on February 10, 2021, 09:38:28 PM
Quote from: QB Eagles on February 10, 2021, 07:51:20 PM
Quote from: Don Ho on February 10, 2021, 06:10:33 PM
Mort saying birds very interested in Mariota

Cool we can add to the 47 page thread about him.
https://www.concretefield.info/forum/index.php?topic=21750.0

" you aint winning with nicky foles" - lil guy

And Havas saying Mychal Kendricks would be better than Fletch

Good times
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on February 10, 2021, 09:44:47 PM
Colts make sense football wise but not on the compensation side. Ballard isn't a dumbshtein who Howie can fleece.

Ryan Pace and Matt Nagy are in win now mode. They're the ones who could offer more. Or be dumb enough to overpay.

Of course the omg surprise team hasn't been thrown out there yet. Wonder who that ends up being?

Jets?
Dolphins?
Saints?
Steelers?
Texans?
Broncos?

It's dumb to trade Wentz btw but if they're going to trade him then Howie better eek every ounce out of the deal he can.
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: SD on February 10, 2021, 09:55:29 PM
Raiders are a possibility...Gruden loves Wentz
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Diomedes on February 10, 2021, 10:35:30 PM
I predict he stays put despite it all.
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: MDS on February 11, 2021, 10:17:52 PM
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on February 10, 2021, 09:38:28 PM
" you aint winning with nicky foles" - lil guy

And Havas saying Mychal Kendricks would be better than Fletch

Good times

cant believe i didnt see the career mediocre qb playing the game of the century in the super bowl...im such an idiot
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: SD on February 12, 2021, 03:21:58 PM
Latest

Jaws said colts best offer was two 2nds and a future 3rd...Colts said they made a better offer

Team to watch: Denver
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: MDS on February 12, 2021, 07:54:04 PM
denver just hired a new gm...not sure why he would be desperate

unless horseface trump buttlicker elway is forcing this
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: SD on February 12, 2021, 07:57:16 PM
Quote from: MDS on February 12, 2021, 07:54:04 PM
denver just hired a new gm...not sure why he would be desperate

unless horseface trump buttlicker elway is forcing this

They need a qb...they have pick 9.
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: QB Eagles on February 12, 2021, 11:12:28 PM
Broncos people said that when Elway was taking a step back, it was for real. He might drop in the office a couple times a year. So their search probably isn't limited to tall white statues anymore.
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: General_Failure on February 12, 2021, 11:15:14 PM
That doesn't rule out the possibility of him firing whoever doesn't sign a tall white statue.
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: MDS on February 12, 2021, 11:32:36 PM
Quote from: QB Eagles on February 12, 2021, 11:12:28 PM
Broncos people said that when Elway was taking a step back, it was for real. He might drop in the office a couple times a year. So their search probably isn't limited to tall white statues anymore.

if thats the case i cant see the new gm, with a probable lame duck head coach, giving up assets for carson wentz. bottoming out this year and picking at the top of the 22 draft makes more sense, you then fire fangio hire a real coach and pick a qb with the skills guys in place they have...or if they love like zach wilson trying to go up and get him.

not going all in for the worst qb in the league
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Don Ho on February 13, 2021, 05:49:18 AM
So we best prepare ourselves for the inevitable, Ginger AO1 is ours for keeps.
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: SD on February 13, 2021, 07:07:32 AM
That ship has sailed. March 19th is their must trade by date because he's due a $10 million roster bonus...if he's moved after that date that becomes even more dead money.
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: ice grillin you on February 13, 2021, 09:19:36 AM
I kinda never thought he was going to be moved but dead money and roster bonuses have almost nothing to do with it
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: SD on February 13, 2021, 10:27:34 AM
Quote from: ice grillin you on February 13, 2021, 09:19:36 AM
I kinda never thought he was going to be moved but dead money and roster bonuses have almost nothing to do with it

The dead money will be historic either way...it's definitely worth taking into consideration. Post June 1st they can move him and the dead money will get spread out over 2 years.

Caplans saying Reich said he can build a team around Wentz. Throw in Ertz and get it done.
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: MDS on February 13, 2021, 11:11:00 AM
the colts continue to make the most sense...they are ready to roll right now and literally do not have a qb on the roster. their best bet to max out their current timeline is taking a chance of the baby ginger and hoping hes a top 15 qb for them.

otherwise, theyre fighting over jameis or hoping to strike gold in the 3rd round of the draft.
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on February 13, 2021, 04:17:15 PM
Colts better come strapped with more than two second rounders
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: General_Failure on February 13, 2021, 06:01:37 PM
Anyone who gives up a first rounder for a 28 year old project quarterback deserves to be fired.
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: MDS on February 13, 2021, 08:03:52 PM
imagine if they tried to bring him back after all this
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: General_Failure on February 13, 2021, 08:11:14 PM
Imagine if there were fans last season. Imagine if there's fans this season and he's not only on the team but also starting.
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: SD on February 13, 2021, 09:43:14 PM
I guess Ertz is involved or getting released or something.
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: ice grillin you on February 13, 2021, 10:57:00 PM
ertz in any deal is an actual negative
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: MDS on February 14, 2021, 12:11:38 AM
ertz is worse right now than celek was at the end of his career. dude was the 2nd best TE in the nfl as far back as 2018...now hes basically unplayable

what a fall
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: SD on February 14, 2021, 10:31:38 PM
This guy  is supposedly good friends with Reich:

https://twitter.com/DanSileoShow/status/1361095380922863620 20
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: ice grillin you on February 15, 2021, 11:03:01 AM
it would be hard to properly state how big of a failure trading wentz for zero #1's would be
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Diomedes on February 15, 2021, 11:16:13 AM
how hard would it be to properly state how big of a failure it would be not to trade him?

is there any world where Wentz is on the Eagles next season?  team is openly trying to deal him.  he's ghosted the team and fans..not doing even the minimal "welcome to the team new coach" statements, is by all reasonable measures OUT....meanwhile Hurts is gonna be hosting Eagles wrs for private workouts...not the look of a team that has any thought to Wentz remaining

situation is Lose - Lose



Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: ice grillin you on February 15, 2021, 11:35:44 AM
im talking from a big picture scenario...all they invested in him...how good he was at one point...how valued that position is around the league...

and they cant get a single first for a former league mvp candidate who is still in his 20's

epic failure
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: General_Failure on February 15, 2021, 11:40:16 AM
The ideal time to trade him was last year before he became the worst quarterback in the NFL.
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: MDS on February 15, 2021, 12:27:21 PM
the fact that we're at the point we are is the failure...whether they get 2 2's or a 1 and change is whatever.

they had an mvp qb 3 years ago, signed him to a mega extension last year and now have to trade him. this is as big a failure as it gets regardless of the return
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: SD on February 15, 2021, 12:35:14 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on February 15, 2021, 11:03:01 AM
it would be hard to properly state how big of a failure trading wentz for zero #1's would be

Two seconds is the equivalent value of a 1st round pick
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Diomedes on February 15, 2021, 12:39:50 PM
it's also double the (admittedly small) chance that Howie will accidentally make a good pick
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: ice grillin you on February 15, 2021, 01:23:47 PM
Quote from: Dre Day on February 15, 2021, 12:35:14 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on February 15, 2021, 11:03:01 AM
it would be hard to properly state how big of a failure trading wentz for zero #1's would be

Two seconds is the equivalent value of a 1st round pick

no
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Diomedes on February 15, 2021, 01:37:53 PM
I'm not really joking..I think two 2s is better than one 1 if the picks will be used by the Eagles..they need to add young talent and more picks>fewer for that mission

if they want to use the compensation for draft trade capital, I think the 1 is probably more valuable to some teams, which is enough to make it more valuable, period.
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: ice grillin you on February 15, 2021, 01:46:58 PM
It matters where they are obviously 33 and 34 are more valuable than 32 but a top 20 pick is more valuable than maybe three random second rounders
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: General_Failure on February 15, 2021, 01:49:16 PM
If you're trading Wentz for being bad, you're probably banking on the team trading for him being bad with him.
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: SD on February 15, 2021, 02:32:45 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on February 15, 2021, 01:46:58 PM
It matters where they are obviously 33 and 34 are more valuable than 32 but a top 20 pick is more valuable than maybe three random second rounders

You generalized...two 2nds gets you into the 1st round so it's equal value. Top 20's a different story
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Don Ho on February 15, 2021, 06:21:23 PM
Doesn't really matter, this FO sucks at drafting the past 5 years no matter the situation.

To long to post but go look at the past 5 drafts - 2018 wasn't to bad, no #1 but they got Goddert, Maddox (hopefully one day they play him where he belongs), Sweat, Pryor, Mailata.
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Geowhizzer on February 18, 2021, 11:57:31 AM
He gone. (https://www.nbcsports.com/philadelphia/eagles/eagles-trade-carson-wentz-colts-2-picks)

2021 3rd round pick.
Conditional 2022 2nd round pick (Can become a first rounder.)
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: SD on February 18, 2021, 11:58:07 AM
Traded for a 3rd this season and a 2nd next season which will most likely become a first unless he's injured

QuoteTweet

Adam Schefter
@AdamSchefter
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If Carson Wentz's playtime is at or above 75% next season, the conditional 2022 second-round pick would become a first-round pick, per sources. The second-round pick also.could become a first if Wentz plays at least 70 percent of the plays and the Colts go to the playoffs.
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: General_Failure on February 18, 2021, 12:01:38 PM
Well now that that's over, it's time to figure out where they're going to free up the other 50 million dollars to get under the cap for this season.
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Zanshin on February 18, 2021, 12:04:35 PM
Quote from: Dre Day on February 18, 2021, 11:58:07 AM
Traded for a 3rd this season and a 2nd next season which will most likely become a first unless he's injured

QuoteTweet

Adam Schefter
@AdamSchefter
·
3m
If Carson Wentz's playtime is at or above 75% next season, the conditional 2022 second-round pick would become a first-round pick, per sources. The second-round pick also.could become a first if Wentz plays at least 70 percent of the plays and the Colts go to the playoffs.

So, you're saying it's almost a lock to be a second-rounder then.
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Munson on February 18, 2021, 12:06:37 PM
What a pathetic return
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Zanshin on February 18, 2021, 12:08:35 PM
Quote from: Munson on February 18, 2021, 12:06:37 PM
What a pathetic return

Like it or not, they had zero leverage; all things considered, that was the best they were going to do. Still, I have no idea how Howie gets a pass on all of this.
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: SD on February 18, 2021, 12:10:32 PM
Quote from: Zanshin on February 18, 2021, 12:08:35 PM
Quote from: Munson on February 18, 2021, 12:06:37 PM
What a pathetic return

Like it or not, they had zero leverage; all things considered, that was the best they were going to do. Still, I have no idea how Howie gets a pass on all of this.

This ^

His contract and being a bitch who wouldn't go to the Bears left the Eagles no choice but to take the Colts offer. There's also a bunch of available qbs
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on February 18, 2021, 12:17:28 PM
lol what a joke
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: QB Eagles on February 18, 2021, 12:36:32 PM
I blame Howie for a lot of other moves over the past few years (particularly the atrocious drafting) but I don't get exactly why we are supposed to blame him for the Wentz thing.

- He drafted Wentz #2 overall. This was the prime impetus for winning the SB within two years. That was worth it, right?
- He gave Wentz a very large but not unreasonable contract in 2019. Had Wentz continued playing at the 2018-2019 level (not the MVP 2017 level), what Wentz is making would have been around the going rate for a solid starting QB.
- Wentz cratered in 2020 and became the worst QB in the NFL. None of us saw it coming, and clearly neither did the Eagles or really any other NFL watcher.
- Howie drafted Hurts last year. If the argument is that drafting Hurts turned Wentz into a terrible QB, that 1) seems like psychological nonsense, and 2) if true, is really on Wentz for being an emotional weakling whose good play was dependent on being pampered by the organization. I look around the league and don't see other good QBs like that.

If Wentz continues to struggle, the Eagles are the winners of this trade. It's safe to assume no one was offering more.

There are three things I would blame Howie for, but we just don't know if they are true:
- If 2020 was a one-year blip and the Eagles are selling low, and Wentz returns to being a good QB against their expectations, then this trade is an unmitigated disaster and should not have been made at all.
- If the Eagles thought there was a good chance that Wentz would return to his 2019 or earlier self, but the Eagles were forced to trade Wentz because he was flat out refusing to play for Howie because of something unreasonable that Howie did.
- If Wentz only struggled in 2020 because of the pieces around him that Howie is responsible for. I don't buy this excuse. We all saw him play last season. The rest of the team was a problem, but Wentz was individually poor.
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: MDS on February 18, 2021, 12:40:21 PM
what an absolute organizational failure. literally moved heaven and earth to get this guy, make him happy, give him a huge contract and then they have to ship him off for a 3rd like a year later

with that said, the eagles are going to stink next year so rooting against the colts and watching carson's snap % is going to be the thing. there is a scenario where they wind up with a mid-tier 1 (carson is average, colts win like 8 games) or a high 2 (carson stinks/gets hurt and you feel justified in trading him). if hes great and its a low 1....i guess thats better than the 2 but you will be bitter.
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Diomedes on February 18, 2021, 12:42:04 PM
I'm glad this part is over.

I wonder out Alshonymous is feeling.
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: phattymatty on February 18, 2021, 12:42:43 PM
I never liked this douche anyway. 
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on February 18, 2021, 12:45:03 PM
I hope he farging sucks. I will be actively rooting against him. Just play the full season to get the 1st rounder and then farg off, loser.
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: QB Eagles on February 18, 2021, 12:50:04 PM
If he doesn't suck he shouldn't have been traded, it's that simple.
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: MDS on February 18, 2021, 12:52:48 PM
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on February 18, 2021, 12:45:03 PM
I hope he farging sucks. I will be actively rooting against him. Just play the full season to get the 1st rounder and then farg off, loser.

he needs to be mediocre

if hes terrible and theyre 4-9 theyll just make up an injury and bench him to keep the 1. they need to be like 7-9 or something and "in" the playoff race until week 16 so he hits the snap % threshold. best case scenario is around 15.
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: ice grillin you on February 18, 2021, 12:53:01 PM
to me the blame on howie is not the situation at large thats all on wentz...or the return he got because the market was truly shtein...where howie farged up is trading him at all...presumably because he thinks they will contend next year and wentz would have been a distraction

let that punk sit out and not get paid or let him play and get his groove back or let him play and destroy the team and locker room so you potentially get the number one overall pick which is better than anything they will get out of this deal

i just dont understand the thinking that you HAD to trade him cause he was unhappy...that makes no sense to me
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: General_Failure on February 18, 2021, 12:55:05 PM
Quote from: MDS on February 18, 2021, 12:52:48 PM
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on February 18, 2021, 12:45:03 PM
I hope he farging sucks. I will be actively rooting against him. Just play the full season to get the 1st rounder and then farg off, loser.

he needs to be mediocre

If he makes it to mediocre then Reich should automatically win coach of the year.
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Diomedes on February 18, 2021, 12:55:14 PM
Quote from: QB Eagles on February 18, 2021, 12:50:04 PM
If he doesn't suck he shouldn't have been traded, it's that simple.

I get what you're saying, but:

If he doesn't suck, that's not necessarily evidence that he would have rebounded in Philly.  I have a hard time seeing him come back to Philly after the position he took and somehow turn it around...once he moped out of Philly, even before the team was openly attempting to trade him...I question whether it was ever possible for him to remain/return, and succeed.
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: MDS on February 18, 2021, 12:56:24 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on February 18, 2021, 12:53:01 PM
you potentially get the number one overall picke

what if i told you the eagles were going to be horrendous and could get the 1 without wentz
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: General_Failure on February 18, 2021, 12:57:03 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on February 18, 2021, 12:53:01 PM
to me the blame on howie is not the situation at large thats all on wentz...or the return he got because the market was truly shtein...where howie farged up is trading him at all...presumably because he thinks they will contend next year and wentz would have been a distraction

The last five years of bad drafts are on Howie. We can only hope someone else gets to make use of that extra pick next year and that he doesn't trade it for a backup TE or something.
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: QB Eagles on February 18, 2021, 12:57:33 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on February 18, 2021, 12:53:01 PM
i just dont understand the thinking that you HAD to trade him cause he was unhappy...that makes no sense to me

100%. You only trade him now if you're convinced he'd cooked and will be worth even less next year. They are still paying like $34 million in dead money for him this season, so Wentz hurts them whether he's playing badly on the team or playing somewhere else. Only way there would have been a good outcome was to keep Wentz and have him play up to his contract. Now they've ruled that out.
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: ice grillin you on February 18, 2021, 12:58:42 PM
Quote from: MDS on February 18, 2021, 12:56:24 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on February 18, 2021, 12:53:01 PM
you potentially get the number one overall picke

what if i told you the eagles were going to be horrendous and could get the 1 without wentz

sure but having a farged up situation with wentz that blows the whole thing up is much better than the team rallying around hurts for five or six wins
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: MDS on February 18, 2021, 12:59:24 PM
if hurts plays like he did last year they winnin 5 or 6
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: ice grillin you on February 18, 2021, 01:03:28 PM
Quote from: MDS on February 18, 2021, 12:59:24 PM
if hurts plays like he did last year they winnin 5 or 6

im not even a hurtz guy but if they get the number one overall pick (1-3 wins) it will be because this coaching staff is as horrific as it looks on paper...it wont be because of hurtz
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: MDS on February 18, 2021, 01:08:29 PM
apparently it was just the colts interested

bears got out and panthers were never in

newsflash wentz stinks
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: QB Eagles on February 18, 2021, 01:10:16 PM
Colts also have so much extra money laying around that even if Wentz sucks it was worth a shot. Very few teams in that situation.
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: ice grillin you on February 18, 2021, 01:17:22 PM
also helps to have a relationship with the head coach if you are an entitled disgruntled dick head of a person
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: General_Failure on February 18, 2021, 01:18:34 PM
So do we get one of those zesty walls of text on an Instagram post thanking us for everything?
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: ice grillin you on February 18, 2021, 01:20:07 PM
it will be extra gross because even at his most happy in philly he still despised it
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: General_Failure on February 18, 2021, 01:21:20 PM
Imagine the one McNabb would have wrote had written for him if they'd been popular back when he was around.
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: QB Eagles on February 18, 2021, 01:24:48 PM
I like to imagine he would have written it himself, casually throwing some teammates under the bus, shilling Chunky Soup, and fondly remembering fun times like playing air guitar and picking up the Giants sideline phone.
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: ice grillin you on February 18, 2021, 01:28:45 PM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EuhutqJXUAEGySV?format=jpg&name=small)

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EuhutqFWgAYDRKB?format=jpg&name=small)
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: hunt on February 18, 2021, 03:02:21 PM
the farg am i gonna do with my wentzlvania t-shirt now?  :paranoid
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: MDS on February 18, 2021, 03:22:31 PM
biggest bitches in eagles history update
1 carson
2 5
3 maga babin
4 nnamdi
5 for who for what

3 years ago he was the god of the city and now he is as big a traitor as tommy lasorda or kobe post 01 finals (before we made up)
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Don Ho on February 18, 2021, 05:50:27 PM
Days like today I often stop and look up at my Honolulu Star-Advertiser February 5, 2018 Sports section front page hanging in my office "THE PHILADELPHIA STORY - Against all odds, Nick Foles and the Eagles defeat the New England Patriots 41-33 for their first Super Bowl title" and not give a rats ass about any of this.

Wentz is gone, Howie is a moron, this team stinks, Luire is clueless, I don't care, well I do care but SB LII makes watching the Novacare Brothers Circus much less nauseating. 
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Rome on February 18, 2021, 09:18:42 PM
I have a flag with the LII score on it.  It's hanging in my office at work.  I don't own it without 2017 Wentz.  So thanks for that.

Other than that, good riddance. 
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on February 19, 2021, 10:49:13 AM
the details of the ridiculousness are starting to come out

Schefter said this AM that Wentz and Doug went like 8-10 weeks last year without speaking.

Colossal organizational failure. Lurie should be ashamed he employed babies. And continues to employ the biggest one of them all - Howie.
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: MDS on February 19, 2021, 12:21:28 PM
Quote from: QB Eagles on November 24, 2017, 11:15:02 AM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DPXllIiWsAAL8C3.jpg:large)

3 years later its all over
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Rome on February 19, 2021, 01:48:48 PM
I would give Julie Ertz Johnston the tongue bath of her life.  That's it.  That's the post.
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: ice grillin you on February 19, 2021, 01:59:14 PM
no wonder wentz hated the drafting of hurtz so much
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on February 19, 2021, 03:29:47 PM
Quote from: Rome on February 19, 2021, 01:48:48 PM
I would give Julie Ertz Johnston the tongue bath of her life.  That's it.  That's the post.

Jordan Hicks' girl is thicccc
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Diomedes on February 19, 2021, 04:36:50 PM
you all lookin at the womin

I'm looking at the trim, the barn door hardware, etc....

ugly as sin, shouts early, expensive 21st century interior design fads, like the huges slabs of floor tile...stuff that will date the house to its period on first glance to anyone

gonna be a lot of those stupid barn doors torn out of houses in ten or fifteen years.
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on February 19, 2021, 05:00:05 PM
Oh I look at that too. I noticed woodwork and millwork in movies and TV shows.

The doors in that pic are ugly as hell. The house seems like its more contemporary which means frameless cabinets likely - which I am not a fan of. Especially now that the fad is to paint everything white or gray or to use melamine.
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: General_Failure on February 19, 2021, 05:55:02 PM
Quote from: Diomedes on February 19, 2021, 04:36:50 PM
you all lookin at the womin

I'm looking at the trim, the barn door hardware, etc....

ugly as sin, shouts early, expensive 21st century interior design fads, like the huges slabs of floor tile...stuff that will date the house to its period on first glance to anyone

gonna be a lot of those stupid barn doors torn out of houses in ten or fifteen years.

Learn to love the McMansion.

Anyway, not counting the children because I didn't go to Penn State, from left to right, no no no no no yes no yes no no no yes yes no no.
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Rome on February 19, 2021, 06:35:04 PM
Quote from: Diomedes on February 19, 2021, 04:36:50 PM
you all lookin at the womin

I'm looking at the trim, the barn door hardware, etc....

ugly as sin, shouts early, expensive 21st century interior design fads, like the huges slabs of floor tile...stuff that will date the house to its period on first glance to anyone

gonna be a lot of those stupid barn doors torn out of houses in ten or fifteen years.

I'm anxiously awaiting the end of the various shades of gray tile and everything else white fad.

Every freaking house has that dumb ass style now.  It's awful.
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: General_Failure on February 19, 2021, 06:42:09 PM
If they stop going with 50 shades of gray they'll just go back to white subway tile.
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on February 19, 2021, 07:24:10 PM
Linoleum and wood paneling
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Diomedes on February 19, 2021, 11:06:46 PM
Well his ig bullshtein got me to look up Hebrews 12: 1-2

I'm not converted but you gotta chalk that up as a win for Christ right
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: General_Failure on February 19, 2021, 11:14:29 PM
That's how they get you. Next step is to guilt you into attending service.
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: General_Failure on February 20, 2021, 12:23:42 AM
I still can't believe this guy got booed off the field at home in an empty stadium.
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Rome on February 20, 2021, 07:24:21 AM
The proselytizing completely disgusts me.  I know I won't miss the god squad aspect of that bunch.
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: MDS on February 20, 2021, 02:34:37 PM
Quote from: Rome on February 20, 2021, 07:24:21 AM
The proselytizing completely disgusts me.  I know I won't miss the god squad aspect of that bunch.

this is one of the things that kept me from ever liking him

people can do what they want to do but the jesus freak stuff is so overbearing if youre not in the cult. good thing for him is indiana would rename its state jesusville if they could
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Rome on February 20, 2021, 02:55:46 PM
I'm a live and let live type but I'm sick of it being pushed in my face as if I'm not a real American if I don't swoon for the Jesus shtein. 
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: General_Failure on February 20, 2021, 02:59:20 PM
Of course, if they'd actually followed the teachings of Jesus they wouldn't behave or live like they do.
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Don Ho on February 21, 2021, 05:35:32 AM
Quote from: Rome on February 20, 2021, 02:55:46 PM
I'm a live and let live type but I'm sick of it being pushed in my face as if I'm not a real American if I don't swoon for the Jesus shtein.

Why I love you Romey!  Worship pink centipedes or purple geckos, fine with me, more power to you, just don't share to much with me. 
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Don Ho on February 21, 2021, 05:37:07 AM
Quote from: Diomedes on February 19, 2021, 04:36:50 PM
you all lookin at the womin

I'm looking at the trim, the barn door hardware, etc....

ugly as sin, shouts early, expensive 21st century interior design fads, like the huges slabs of floor tile...stuff that will date the house to its period on first glance to anyone

gonna be a lot of those stupid barn doors torn out of houses in ten or fifteen years.

I'm telling Chip and Joanna on you.
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: MDS on February 22, 2021, 01:20:09 PM
translation: carson wentz is really really white

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Eu1_TavWYAUv_CT?format=jpg&name=medium)
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Diomedes on February 22, 2021, 01:37:52 PM
Wentz:  So, about number 11
Pittman, Jr.:  I'm #11
Wentz:  That's cool, I'm probably changing anyway.

lol
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: ice grillin you on February 22, 2021, 05:06:47 PM
Quote from: MDS on February 22, 2021, 01:20:09 PM
translation: carson wentz is really really white

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Eu1_TavWYAUv_CT?format=jpg&name=medium)

he ain't whiter than foles

Wentz problem was that he had the personality of a piece of road kill...like he was nerdy robot sent from outer space...I don't think he was fake but he came off as insincere kinda aloof and uninterested unlike Foles who genuinely seems like one of the nicest people ever
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Rome on February 22, 2021, 05:37:58 PM
Wentz is 100% authentic.  He's exactly what he seems like:  White, Christian, self-absorbed, arrogant, entitled and completely incapable of straying outside the box those religious weirdos build for themselves. 

He's also from a place where white homogeneity is the only kind of "homo" officially permitted to exist.  Sure, there's a black guy here and there, and everyone is polite to him, but Wentz rarely, if ever, had to mix socially with anyone who isn't exactly like him.

That photo couldn't be more telling about him in that regard.

What's funny is there's Julie Ertz, who as a female professional soccer player, is literally surrounded by women of color, gay women, etc. and she blends in seamlessly with her teammates even though she's whiter than Crest toothpaste.  Why?  Because women in that sport are forced to be tolerant of each other.  Ain't got no choice in the matter.   

And honestly, that's exactly the way it should be in all walks of life in this country.  You want to be a racist icehole?  Fine. Take it into the woods then.  You're shunned as farg until you get your head out of your ass. 

   
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: QB Eagles on February 22, 2021, 05:50:52 PM
Foles comes from a filthy rich family and is more Christian than Wentz.

Maybe Wentz is just a bit of an icehole. Nothing more profound than that.
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: ice grillin you on February 22, 2021, 07:47:46 PM
Foles did grow up tho in one of the most liberal counties in America that was also very multicultural...he also was a stud basketball player...all this clearly lended to him being more socially adept

I don't even see Wentz as an icehole...he seems introverted and just kinda weird...like he's cool with his team but the minute practice is over he's going back to his land to kill some animals and bang his high school sweetheart...Foles might be found at Barclay prime with 12 of his teammates and 8 of them might be black and five of them atheists
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Diomedes on February 22, 2021, 07:54:34 PM
It's Carson does the thing in Haiti right?
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: ice grillin you on February 22, 2021, 08:04:27 PM
Quote from: Diomedes on February 22, 2021, 07:54:34 PM
It's Carson does the thing in Haiti right?

I think so...he's seems like a true Christian in the sense that he likes to help people who are in need but that's not the same as being able to get close to or really connect with people
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Diomedes on February 22, 2021, 08:20:28 PM
To be sure.

And Foles wants to be a preacher right?  To whom? 

Poor brown people far away on well publicized yearly jaunts? 
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Diomedes on February 22, 2021, 08:22:54 PM
What I'm getting at is it seems to me Carson does the well fed white missionary Christian thing and Foles does the meet with parishioners Christian thing.

Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: QB Eagles on February 22, 2021, 08:37:05 PM
It's not like everyone in North Dakota has the same personality as one another. And I guarantee there weren't a shortage of black kids on the NDSU football team. Some people are just better extroverts. Trying to reverse engineer Wentz's personality flaws from knowing simple facts like his state of origin and religion isn't going to be particularly insightful.
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: SD on February 22, 2021, 09:03:27 PM
Bottom line is Foles has the bigger dick
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: MDS on February 23, 2021, 12:02:30 AM
Quote from: ice grillin you on February 22, 2021, 07:47:46 PMI don't even see Wentz as an icehole...he seems introverted and just kinda weird...like he's cool with his team but the minute practice is over he's going back to his land to kill some animals and bang his high school sweetheart...Foles might be found at Barclay prime with 12 of his teammates and 8 of them might be black and five of them atheists

i wouldnt go that for with foles. he hosts a podcast blending sports and jesus...he probably goes home every day to read bible verses and watch veggie tales with the kid

wentz though rarely if ever went out. i think he hit a lowkey spot in the naval yard sometimes after practice then jetted back to jersey. him being unable to connect with alshon, desean or reagor but being best buddies with ertz and matthews is pretty much everything
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Rome on February 23, 2021, 06:46:28 AM
Anyone who's ever been in a locker room understands that dynamic.  Foles is just more comfortable in his own skin.  You can't fake that.   I'm not saying Wentz is a bad guy or anything.  I wouldn't have the foggiest clue.  But from an outsider's perspective, it sure seems like he's way more comfortable around his Jesus loving buddies than he is anyone else whereas Foles is cool with everyone.  That goes a long way.

Also - I remember reading something a few years ago about the clique aspect of the rollers on the team that really bothered me.  It was probably about Wentz, Ertz & Matthews but I can't remember.

Anyway, that sort of "everyone is welcome but not really" thing is farging poisonous to team building.  Just my impression and opinion but in my years in management, that's been my experience anyway. 
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Diomedes on February 23, 2021, 07:05:08 AM
All I remember about the locker room was stupid brutes ruled that space and it was toxic as farg if you weren't one of them.

I chose drugs and social rejects  over sports and popular jocks and it was 100% the right call.

Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: ice grillin you on February 23, 2021, 08:52:37 AM
Quote from: Diomedes on February 22, 2021, 08:22:54 PM
What I'm getting at is it seems to me Carson does the well fed white missionary Christian thing and Foles does the meet with parishioners Christian thing.

yeah this about sums it up
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: ice grillin you on March 04, 2021, 09:58:52 AM
OT Jason Peters on the move from Carson Wentz to Jalen Hurts: "Carson is a great player. Philadelphia is a hard city to play for. You have to bring it every year, otherwise they'll eat you up."

Brandon Graham on Carson Wentz: "Philly is a tough market and tough place to play in, and so when things weren't going right, I know it was . . . probably tough on him and his family to have to live through that."

(https://www.snopes.com/tachyon/2015/04/crybaby.jpg)
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: MDS on March 04, 2021, 12:42:22 PM
the thing about it is carson's mentions are going to be a dumpster fire in indy if he sucks too

im pretty sure he never listened to WIP or read marcus hayes' inqy column. its not like he went walking down 13th st on a friday night and had drunk idiots telling him he sucked. the zoom sessions with the beats were uneventful. him catching feelings were 100% him doom scrolling on ig and twitter.

but more than anything he played like crap, got benched and his ginger ego was bruised to the point where he wanted to run home to daddy frankie
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Rome on March 04, 2021, 01:35:14 PM
And they call *us* snowflakes.  JFC.
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: General_Failure on March 04, 2021, 01:58:16 PM
I'm sure he'll flourish in the shadows of Andrew Luck's broken potential and Peyton Manning.
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on March 04, 2021, 11:18:10 PM
That's what happens when you grow up in North Dakota.
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: General_Failure on March 04, 2021, 11:27:58 PM
Growing up might be pushing it.
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: MDS on March 18, 2021, 01:26:31 PM
lol this little bitch

QuoteWentz said the Green Bay game was the moment he "realized this might not be it" in Philly.

and then he refused to admit he wanted to be traded
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on March 18, 2021, 05:52:49 PM
Biggest Hoyda in Philly sports history.
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: General_Failure on March 18, 2021, 05:55:40 PM
There's no doubt in my mind he'd still be gone right now even if he had played in and won that super bowl. I think I'm gonna spend some stimulus money on a Foles jersey.


Also a Mike Vick jersey for my dog, because she hates going out in the snow and rain.
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: QB Eagles on March 18, 2021, 06:12:19 PM
He's wearing No. 2 with the Colts. Matches his quality of play last year.
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on March 18, 2021, 06:56:49 PM
Haha I thought the same when I saw the jersey pic
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Rome on March 18, 2021, 08:35:01 PM
So AO2 then?
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Don Ho on March 19, 2021, 04:57:25 AM
 :-D :-D :-D
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Don Ho on March 19, 2021, 05:01:25 AM
No shtein, wife and I were cleaning out the dresser, found my Wentz t-shirt, through it in with the dogs and their beds, happy to report Toby loves it.  He may yam on it after he sees the press conference.
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Eagaholic on March 19, 2021, 08:37:39 AM
Quote from: General_Failure on March 18, 2021, 05:55:40 PM
There's no doubt in my mind he'd still be gone right now even if he had played in and won that super bowl. I think I'm gonna spend some stimulus money on a Foles jersey.


Also a Mike Vick jersey for my dog, because she hates going out in the snow and rain.
Putting a Vick jersey on your dog means she'll probably get the herpes, and that's on you. But then applying a Foles Jersey would cure her, so I guess its a wash, as long as they are worn in he proper order.   
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on March 22, 2021, 12:56:54 PM
"From a family standpoint, I've got an 11 month old baby. I've got a wife. And my wife is actually from Kentucky, so her whole family is a two and a half hour drive away. It feels like us. It feels like our culture, our values and kind of our vibe, so to speak."

Can't wait to boo this clown and root for his demise as an NFL QB. Bum.
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: QB Eagles on March 22, 2021, 01:30:33 PM
Let's stop updating this thread. I'd rather not think about him at all than follow him around for the next few years criticizing him like an ex I'm butthurt about. Thanks for 2017. Bye.
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: ice grillin you on March 22, 2021, 01:32:36 PM
Quote from: QB Eagles on March 22, 2021, 01:30:33 PM
Let's stop updating this thread. I'd rather not think about him at all than follow him around for the next few years criticizing him like an ex I'm butthurt about. Thanks for 2017. Bye.

thats how oregon works not philadelphia

also hes a probable white supremacist...they shouldnt be left alone
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: General_Failure on March 22, 2021, 02:19:54 PM
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on March 22, 2021, 12:56:54 PM
"From a family standpoint, I've got an 11 month old baby. I've got a wife. And my wife is actually from Kentucky, so her whole family is a two and a half hour drive away. It feels like us. It feels like our culture, our values and kind of our vibe, so to speak."

Can't wait to boo this clown and root for his demise as an NFL QB. Bum.

Look man, the man just wants to live close to his family and culture. Sometimes that means moving away from the blacks and into a nice McMansion at 1488 White Flight Circle and getting a full chest Molon Labe tattoo.
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: ice grillin you on March 22, 2021, 04:53:16 PM
religious zealot telling you his morals are better than yours because the baby jesus is priceless
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: General_Failure on March 22, 2021, 05:42:15 PM
If ever there was a quarterback worthy of the name Bedwetter.
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: MDS on March 22, 2021, 06:46:07 PM
he wants to murder animals for sport, worship a bunch of fairy tales and be in a community of mostly white people

whats the big deal, leave him alone
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: General_Failure on March 22, 2021, 07:06:13 PM
Well I don't want him in my community, he should just go back to where he came from.
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on March 22, 2021, 07:40:51 PM
Havas

McNabb or Wentz as the QB on your squad?
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: ice grillin you on March 22, 2021, 07:48:37 PM
gotta be the bed wetter...regardless how i feel about him hes at least a true eagle which is something wentz will obviously now never be
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: MDS on March 22, 2021, 08:57:28 PM
does anyone remember who wentz's last td pass was to
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: General_Failure on March 22, 2021, 09:25:09 PM
Ertz?
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: SD on March 22, 2021, 09:29:18 PM
Quote from: MDS on March 22, 2021, 08:57:28 PM
does anyone remember who wentz's last td pass was to

Takitaki?
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on March 22, 2021, 09:42:07 PM
Boston Scott?
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: General_Failure on March 22, 2021, 09:44:02 PM
Was it even to an Eagle or was it a pick six?
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: General_Failure on March 22, 2021, 09:47:07 PM
Looks like it was Eagles legend DickRod.
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on March 22, 2021, 10:22:18 PM
Oh yeah the miracle cover against seattle
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: MDS on March 22, 2021, 10:44:18 PM
dickrod td it is

his last completion was the underthrow to goeddert to start 2H in the green bay game
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Don Ho on March 24, 2021, 12:58:59 AM
Not only did Carson know it was over after that pass, so did we.
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Rome on April 16, 2021, 07:59:09 PM
https://twitter.com/cj_wentz/status/1383127218600222722 20

Jesus rides beside me.

He never buys any smokes. 

Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: ice grillin you on June 14, 2021, 12:46:42 PM
QuoteLowest % of accurate passes thrown from a clean pocket in 2020.

29. Nick Mullens (58%)
30. Sam Darnold (56%)
31 Mitch Trubisky (53%)
32. Carson Wentz (52%)
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: ice grillin you on July 30, 2021, 05:22:56 PM
QuoteI'm told the Wentz foot injury involves a bone and a ligament... Colts had been hoping for better news, are bracing for possible surgery
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: General_Failure on July 30, 2021, 05:47:28 PM
It's amazing that Andrew Luck had a longer career than Wentz.
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on July 30, 2021, 06:31:42 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on July 30, 2021, 05:22:56 PM
QuoteI'm told the Wentz foot injury involves a bone and a ligament... Colts had been hoping for better news, are bracing for possible surgery

lolol jesus farging christ almighty
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: MDS on July 30, 2021, 06:54:42 PM
setting up for a possible apocalyptic scenario where wentz comes back midseason with the colts hovering around.500 and leads them to the playoffs. he doesnt hit 70% so the pick becomes a late 2.

kill me now
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Diomedes on July 30, 2021, 06:59:09 PM
lock this goddamn thread will you?
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Don Ho on July 31, 2021, 05:22:41 AM
Please cease and desist!
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: ice grillin you on August 01, 2021, 10:02:36 PM
QuoteQB Carson Wentz plans to try to rest and rehab his foot injury over the next few days, source said, rather than have immediate surgery. If all goes well, Week 1 is in play. If it doesn't improve, the answer may be surgery.
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: ice grillin you on August 02, 2021, 11:59:06 AM
QuoteSurgery it is for Carson Wentz. Wide recovery window of 5-12 weeks could have him back for the start of the regular season or out until late October.
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: MDS on August 02, 2021, 12:09:47 PM
my rough math tells me he can miss 4 games and still hit 70%

seems pretty dubious thatll happen now. looking very much like this is going to be mid-range 2.
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Rome on August 02, 2021, 12:50:26 PM
You gotta have faith!
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: ice grillin you on August 02, 2021, 01:10:41 PM
Audience of 2 fanbases
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: SD on August 02, 2021, 01:22:49 PM
Now I hope he gets covid
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: ice grillin you on August 15, 2021, 10:36:12 AM
Wentzy gonna start the opener?
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Rome on August 15, 2021, 10:54:35 AM
He's been touched by Doug.  He's now the MVP front runner.
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: MDS on August 15, 2021, 01:40:25 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on August 15, 2021, 10:36:12 AM
Wentzy gonna start the opener?

latest reports were that hes on track

between him and tua stinking it up with the dolphins, got some legit things to watch beyond jalen hurts INT count
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on August 15, 2021, 02:45:38 PM
Hopefully he does so they can get the pick.

But knowing him and our luck he will get inured again
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Diomedes on August 15, 2021, 02:57:49 PM
I am begging you Big Brother lock this thread.
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: ice grillin you on August 15, 2021, 03:15:50 PM
Yeah lock the only important thread of the 2021 season brother
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Diomedes on August 15, 2021, 03:28:14 PM
Quote from: MDS on April 20, 2016, 02:46:47 PM
(http://www.bisonillustrated.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/06/Screen-Shot-2015-06-05-at-9.16.03-AM.png)
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: ice grillin you on August 23, 2021, 02:50:13 PM
Our boy took every single first team snap in practice today
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Rome on August 23, 2021, 05:48:04 PM
(https://pics.me.me/wetalkin-bout-practice-pi-allen-iverson-meme-generator-imgflip-50954438.png)
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: ice grillin you on August 30, 2021, 01:26:45 PM
least surprising news of the year

https://twitter.com/rapsheet/status/1432393337114439684 21
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Diomedes on August 30, 2021, 01:34:34 PM
Idiot.
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on August 30, 2021, 04:44:12 PM
HIS BODY HIS CHOICE!
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on August 30, 2021, 04:52:52 PM
Rip job!

https://twitter.com/greggdoyelstar/status/1432439106714357761 21
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: ice grillin you on August 30, 2021, 05:40:10 PM
When you put god ahead of everything else its pretty much the definition of selfish
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: MDS on August 30, 2021, 08:11:59 PM
column is behind a paywall but this is the lede

Quote"The Indianapolis Colts could release Carson Wentz right now, and I'd help pack his bags. Where does he live? Because he'll need a ride to the airport."

going well for the ol ginger jesus freak
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Rome on August 30, 2021, 08:57:44 PM
"That's a personal decision" is probably the most cowardly response to a question I've ever heard.  Plus it doesn't answer the question either.  What a POS. 
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: MDS on August 30, 2021, 09:03:09 PM
i was in albany for a night last week and got to talking with a coach for albany u and asked him how ndsu became such a power, since wentz was a topic at the bar. his response

"well, their academics requirements are non existent"

that explains some things
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on August 30, 2021, 09:25:33 PM
Gotta imagine there are a ton of smooth brains in the Dakotas. So having academic requirements above 9th grade is a sure fire way too not field a team.
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: General_Failure on August 30, 2021, 10:07:20 PM
This will all pay off when Reich gets fired and becomes the new coach here.
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: SD on September 12, 2021, 07:12:35 PM
My apologies in advance for bumping this, my buddy has a 3 TV set up. We had Colts/Hawks game on. Wentz is the exact same player as last season. Holds the ball too long, zero pocket awareness, took some really hard hits, couldn't get into a rhythm...still has that stupid look on his face like he's concussed but pissed off. Colts have one of the better o lines in the league but he was taking a beating. Trying to stay optimistic he plays 70% of the snaps but I just don't see it.

Frustrating player, threads one middle field in between coverage then takes a bad sack.
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: QB Eagles on September 12, 2021, 07:41:09 PM
Ex-Eagles In The NFL (https://www.concretefield.info/forum/index.php?topic=21998.0)
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Eagaholic on September 13, 2021, 04:33:07 AM
At least from the highlights I saw, Wentz also still stares down his primary receiver for a leisurely 4 seconds before he decides to go to some other read or else gets his head pounded into the turf. I'll put the o/u at 3 games before he goes through a neuro eval in the tent, then maybe "comes back faster than expected!" from a concussion.
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Diomedes on September 13, 2021, 11:23:15 AM
https://www.phillyvoice.com/carson-wentz-snap-count-tracker-eagles-first-round-pick-colts/

Kempski gonna update this throughout the season

What if Hurts is the guy...and Wentz somehow doesn't get hurt and plays well enough to not get benched....and Mailata continues to dominate....what if Smith keeps looking great and...the Eagles have all that and three f'n first round picks....

I mean, it's possible. 

Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: ice grillin you on September 13, 2021, 01:40:03 PM
https://www.instagram.com/p/CTvLBLTgCTX/?utm_medium=copy_link
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Rome on September 13, 2021, 05:30:17 PM
Haha.  That's great, IGY.
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Don Ho on September 13, 2021, 07:05:13 PM
That is funny!  I have a wentz t-shirt jersey, would love to black out the Z.
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on September 13, 2021, 07:34:35 PM
Igys evolution from not having a cell phone to not using the quote function to posting IG links is impressive.
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: MDS on September 13, 2021, 07:45:29 PM
he got an iphone recently....next stop is sending gifs
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: General_Failure on September 14, 2021, 09:22:48 AM
I for one welcome our new memelord supreme IGY.
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: ice grillin you on September 20, 2021, 11:04:15 AM
QuoteQB Carson Wentz is dealing with injuries to not just one ankle, but both ankles sources say. He's having tests today to determine the severity of his sprains suffered yesterday.
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Diomedes on September 20, 2021, 11:07:06 AM
So so happy to be cheering for Hurts instead of Wentz.

Someone else's problem now.  farg the picks, a 2nd rounder ain't bad to be off the hook of this guy wearing an Eagles jersey.
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: phattymatty on September 20, 2021, 11:11:03 AM
lol I just logged on here to say the exact same thing.  even when Wentz looked good I forced myself to cheer for him.  farg that guy and his ankles.
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: ice grillin you on September 20, 2021, 11:15:53 AM
Quote from: Diomedes on September 20, 2021, 11:07:06 AM
farg the picks

no

indy is farging 0-2 and at the titans next....the pick could have been HUGE
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: MDS on September 20, 2021, 11:26:55 AM
theres just no way he plays the requisite amount of snaps. between his already broken down body and the colts fading, it aint happening.

root against them and hope for as good a 2 as possible...and that they take a qb in the 1st so wentz will cry
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: ice grillin you on September 20, 2021, 11:53:02 AM
yeah i said could have been

my point is it mattered....a lot
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: SD on September 20, 2021, 12:26:01 PM
Quote from: Diomedes on September 20, 2021, 11:07:06 AM
So so happy to be cheering for Hurts instead of Wentz.

Someone else's problem now.  farg the picks, a 2nd rounder ain't bad to be off the hook of this guy wearing an Eagles jersey.

100% agreement. Same salary right now and only based on play and health I'm taking Hurts over Wentz. The extra 1st would be amazing but two 1sts and two 2nds next season ain't bad either. Even if the ankle injuries aren't serious there's no way Wentz plays 70% of the snaps, he still doesn't know how to take a hit, scramble or get rid of the ball. It's painful watching him in the pocket.
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Diomedes on September 20, 2021, 01:48:44 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on September 20, 2021, 11:53:02 AMmy point is it mattered....a lot

So they could get another Marcus Smith or Andre Dillard? 

Whatever.  The team is loaded with draft capital...would have been nice to have three ones but it's all a goddamn crap shoot anyway and Wentz is clearly a liability. 

I've moved on and I love me some Hurts....the more you call him trash, the better I like him.  You can have Carson.
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Zanshin on September 20, 2021, 03:41:08 PM
Hurts is much easier to root for, no doubt about it. And if the Colts aren't doing well down the stretch, why would they play Wentz to the point of hitting the threshold even if healthy, only to give up the first over the second? Unless it was a low 1st, I don't think we'd realistically have seen it under any circumstance.
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: General_Failure on September 20, 2021, 03:51:29 PM
It was always a case of a second round pick or the Colts not needing to draft a QB next year. It was a nice dream, but good luck to whichever QB the Colts do wind up drafting next year. He's going to have to sit behind Wentz for nearly a quarter of the 2022 season.
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: ice grillin you on September 20, 2021, 04:13:21 PM
Quote from: Diomedes on September 20, 2021, 01:48:44 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on September 20, 2021, 11:53:02 AMmy point is it mattered....a lot

So they could get another Marcus Smith or Andre Dillard? 

I got a better idea just forfeit all draft picks going forward on the chance you might not get a good player
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: SD on September 20, 2021, 05:41:23 PM
Quote

Adam Schefter
@AdamSchefter
Colts' HC Frank Reich said QB Carson Wentz sprained both ankles and it's too early to tell what his status is for Sunday at Tennessee.

Just sprains but I still see no way he  lasts 3/4 the season
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on September 20, 2021, 05:44:42 PM
He's such a loser.

And when they do get another QB they better dump him quick or else he's going to cry and whine
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: General_Failure on September 20, 2021, 06:14:26 PM
Cap optimization says they dump him after next season, but they can afford to do it this offseason without it being a huge problem.
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on September 20, 2021, 06:24:50 PM
Wonder where he ends up next as a back up.
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Diomedes on September 20, 2021, 08:19:04 PM
NFC East
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Don Ho on September 20, 2021, 08:47:15 PM
Fitz and Wentz in the capitol!
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: SD on September 24, 2021, 02:23:58 PM
Quote
Zak Keefer
@zkeefer
A bit of a surprise: Colts QB Carson Wentz is practicing today, which means starting Sunday in Tennessee could be in play.
12:14 PM · Sep 24, 2021 from Indianapolis, IN
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: SD on September 26, 2021, 10:26:34 AM
Expected to play
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Diomedes on September 26, 2021, 11:35:48 AM
hero ball

Indianapolis deserves no less.  Or better.  Perfect fit.
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Diomedes on September 26, 2021, 09:12:38 PM
https://carsonsnaptracker.com/
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: General_Failure on September 26, 2021, 09:32:34 PM
Terrible tracker, it doesn't even list bones or tendons.
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: NC_Eagle on September 26, 2021, 09:33:27 PM
Quote from: Diomedes on September 26, 2021, 09:12:38 PM
https://carsonsnaptracker.com/

^bookmarked  :yay
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: SD on September 26, 2021, 09:39:24 PM
Quote from: Diomedes on September 26, 2021, 09:12:38 PM
https://carsonsnaptracker.com/

POTY
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: MDS on September 26, 2021, 10:05:10 PM
you all realize hes getting shutdown when theyre out of it
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Diomedes on September 26, 2021, 10:31:19 PM
Yeah we'll see.  If they win six games with him, seven games...and he's played okay, are they really gonna just bench their best QB option to avoid losing the draft pick?  Not sure that's a slam dunk.  You're telling everyone else on the team, yeah...these games where you could be injured for life, they don't matter, ya ya shut up you're getting paid...
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: General_Failure on September 26, 2021, 10:32:17 PM
He'll miss a couple games from covid, it'll be fine.
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Diomedes on September 26, 2021, 10:33:55 PM
Or just straight up injury.

But if Jesus protects him...it's not at all a foregone conclusion that Indy will bald-face quit trying.
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: QB Eagles on September 26, 2021, 11:08:35 PM
If they are gonna win 6 or 7 games, they need to start winning some. He looks the same as he did last year, i.e. dogshtein.
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: SD on September 26, 2021, 11:37:53 PM
Quote from: MDS on September 26, 2021, 10:05:10 PM
you all realize hes getting shutdown when theyre out of it

He's their future and a little bitch. No way Jesus lover Reich sits him and let's him sulk over a draft pick. Top 10 would be amazing. Either way they keep losing it benefits the Eagles even if it's a 2nd
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: MDS on September 26, 2021, 11:50:13 PM
irsay is already irritated with him for refusing to get vaxed. if they have a top 5 pick, which they are on pace to have, they will grab a qb and wentz will have to be a placeholder in 22. hate to see it.
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: SD on September 26, 2021, 11:57:00 PM
The Colts ain't eating this much money for a pick. Thanks for taking him off our hands qb whisperer Jesus lover Reich.

QuoteSigned through 2024, with cap hits of $27 million in 2022, $25 million in 2023 and $26 million in 2024. And he has some lucrative incentives that the Colts would likely be happy to pay: $5 million being voted NFL MVP; $5 million for being voted the NFL Offensive Player of the Year; $6 million for 3 Pro Bowl berths or 2 Pro Bowls plus a playoff berth; $5 million for Super Bowl win, if he takes 70% of the snaps during that season. 
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: MDS on September 26, 2021, 11:58:36 PM
they can get out for either little or no penalty after 22....when they traded for him, it was a 2 year deal

this year has been a disaster. hes gimpy and a complete coward who thinks science is satan. im sure they cannot wait to be rid of him.
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Eagaholic on September 27, 2021, 12:00:34 AM
As of now the Eagles hold the #3 and #6 pick plus their own.
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on September 27, 2021, 12:04:42 AM
They let him play on two sprained ankles today. However with their OL not being very good (Nelson went out again today) he could be in line to continue to take a beating. But he still looks like he has the last couple years...chaotic with the ball and lousy in the red zone. Nothing has come smooth for him this season.

Could they play some gamesmanship later in the year? Yeah. Could he get hurt again or get COVID? Probably. But here's what they have left;

At Miami
At Baltimore
Houston
At San Fran
Tennessee
NY Jets
Jacksonville
At Buffalo
Tampa Bay
At Houston
BYE
New England
At Arizona
Las Vegas
At Jacksonville
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Rome on September 27, 2021, 12:11:29 PM
Even if they *only* get a 2 for him, it's the steal of the century.

Stop crying about spilled milk, ladies.
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Diomedes on November 01, 2021, 02:50:07 PM
https://twitter.com/titansfilmroom/status/1455014362201018370
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: ice grillin you on November 29, 2021, 08:40:29 PM
if im reading this right kempski is saying wentz could/should lock up the number one pick for the birds this week

https://www.phillyvoice.com/carson-wentz-snap-count-tracker-eagles-first-round-pick-colts/
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: General_Failure on November 29, 2021, 08:44:19 PM
If there's going to be a week where he goes on IR, it's this one.
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: SD on November 29, 2021, 08:49:35 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on November 29, 2021, 08:40:29 PM
if im reading this right kempski is saying wentz could/should lock up the number one pick for the birds this week

https://www.phillyvoice.com/carson-wentz-snap-count-tracker-eagles-first-round-pick-colts/

He reached 70% snaps so if the Colts make the playoffs they get the pick. He finishes this weeks game they get the pick. Currently pick 14
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: ice grillin you on November 29, 2021, 08:49:57 PM
Quote from: General_Failure on November 29, 2021, 08:44:19 PM
If there's going to be a week where he goes on IR, it's this one.


they are a game out of the playoffs....thats not happening

if you go by whos favored their schedule has two wins two losses and a toss up so they are going to end up with 8 or 9 wins which should have it in the 10-19 range

Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Diomedes on November 29, 2021, 09:50:23 PM
Whichever pick it is, it was stolen, take it and run.
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: General_Failure on November 29, 2021, 10:29:04 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on November 29, 2021, 08:49:57 PM
Quote from: General_Failure on November 29, 2021, 08:44:19 PM
If there's going to be a week where he goes on IR, it's this one.
they are a game out of the playoffs....thats not happening

if you go by whos favored their schedule has two wins two losses and a toss up so they are going to end up with 8 or 9 wins which should have it in the 10-19 range


I don't think they stash him, I'm saying his body literally falls apart during the game and ends his season.
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: MDS on November 30, 2021, 11:17:18 AM
Quote"To be blunt, that's Philly," Wentz says now. "That's just who they are. They're passionate. It made it a lot of fun for a lot of years playing there. They're always passionate. They're blunt.

"I think I was the same guy, giving it everything I could on the field and everything I could off the field to make a difference. I can only control who I am. I can't let that type of stuff change me."

https://theathletic.com/2986286/2021/11/30/carson-wentz-chapter-2-life-after-the-benching-the-trade-the-hate-as-he-revives-his-career-with-the-colts/

not a day goes by that im not happy hes gone....he would have easily passed 5 as my most despised philly athlete
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Rome on November 30, 2021, 12:19:13 PM
Exactly.  Buh farging bye. 
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Diomedes on November 30, 2021, 12:26:19 PM
Howie managed to dump him and got a first round pick along the way .. Does a guy get credit for bailing himself out of a problem he invited?
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Rome on November 30, 2021, 06:50:25 PM
If the Eagles hadn't blown it last week they'd have the exact same record without Wentz as the Colts have with him. 

Is he a better QB than Hurts?  Probably.

Is he worth the constant bellyaching that went on with him in Philly?  Uh no. 

I would rather watch a guy like Hurts for the next half decade than put up with Ginger Jesus for one more second.
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: ice grillin you on November 30, 2021, 07:20:14 PM
Quote from: Rome on November 30, 2021, 06:50:25 PM
Is he a better QB than Hurts?  Probably.

i dont want him back or anything but lol no not probably one billion percent definitely

say what you want about him being zealot and a big baby but hes a good (not great) qb having a nice year

Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Rome on November 30, 2021, 07:57:58 PM
Well, he's usually injured, can't run, wildly misfires on passes, holds on to the ball too long, takes too many sacks, zeroes in on his primary reads, and turns the ball over too much.

Hurts does all of those things too BUT he can run and his teammates love him despite his obvious shortcomings.

Look, I'm not saying I heart Hurts like some brain dead homer.  He's obviously not great but I'm absolutely saying I'd rather have him over Wentz any day of the week precisely because he's a good guy and not some midwestern Bible thumping Trumper. 
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: MDS on November 30, 2021, 08:15:17 PM
carson is a tier 2 qb...hes a quality starter in this league. hurts is a backup who forces you to play one dimensionally because he cant throw.

this isnt a debate
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: ice grillin you on November 30, 2021, 08:58:18 PM
wentz is just ahead of patrick mahomes in qb rating

hurtz is just ahead of davis mills
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: General_Failure on November 30, 2021, 10:05:13 PM
They don't get a ring without Wentz, so whatever kind of player he is that at least puts him ahead of McNabb.
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Don Ho on November 30, 2021, 10:47:03 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on November 30, 2021, 08:58:18 PM
wentz is just ahead of patrick mahomes in qb rating

hurtz is just ahead of davis mills

(https://c.tenor.com/nYk9NUeTXtUAAAAd/oh-my-george-takei.gif)
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Rome on December 01, 2021, 01:00:53 PM
Quote from: MDS on November 30, 2021, 08:15:17 PM
carson is a tier 2 qb...hes a quality starter in this league. hurts is a backup who forces you to play one dimensionally because he cant throw.

this isnt a debate

Which one do you prefer as an Eagle?
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Don Ho on December 01, 2021, 05:29:21 PM
Agreed no Wentz in 2017 = No Parade.

11-2 and he was on another level.  That Rams game where he almost lost a limb, he was on MVP pace.  Foles looked like ass the Giants, Raiders and Cowboys game, stunk in the Atlanta game and Minnesota NFCCG was the coming out party. 

Yes, Wentz has been a complete bitch since the leg injury but no denying he was on fire in 2017 and we all thought he was the next elite QB.  Unfortunatley Hurts fire is a smoldering tire fire.
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: QB Eagles on December 01, 2021, 06:22:29 PM
I watch sports as entertainment. A whiny guy who isn't good enough to make the whining tolerable is one of the least entertaining people to root for. If he was just a Bible thumper, or purely a jerk, I wouldn't really care. Most sports stars are at least one of those. But whiny, GTFO. The prospect of having to root for him for another 5+ years is way worse than having to root for Hurts for 1-2.

See also: Ben Simmons
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: MDS on December 01, 2021, 07:59:04 PM
Quote from: Rome on December 01, 2021, 01:00:53 PM
Quote from: MDS on November 30, 2021, 08:15:17 PM
carson is a tier 2 qb...hes a quality starter in this league. hurts is a backup who forces you to play one dimensionally because he cant throw.

this isnt a debate

Which one do you prefer as an Eagle?

i guess hurts but thats not a fair question because id rather have eric trump than carson wentz
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Diomedes on December 01, 2021, 09:09:32 PM
Jesus Christ dude, that's extreme.  Wentz ain't that bad.
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Munson on December 05, 2021, 11:08:41 AM
https://twitter.com/adamschefter/status/1467452211705831427 21
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: General_Failure on December 05, 2021, 11:14:46 AM
I'm not looking forward to hearing about how his entire lower half was ripped clean off his body during this week's game.
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Diomedes on December 05, 2021, 11:17:54 AM
Next week however is another story...
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: SD on December 05, 2021, 11:54:02 AM
They're playing Houston so I wouldn't rule out him getting pulled early.
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Rome on December 28, 2021, 01:30:36 PM
https://twitter.com/AdamSchefter/status/1475895147837726720 20

There it is. 
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: SD on December 28, 2021, 02:57:17 PM
That worked out perfect. Let's hope he sits and they get some L's now
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on December 28, 2021, 03:41:36 PM
Odds were like -10000 of this happening

Just thankful it did before the draft pick percentage was hit
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: ice grillin you on December 28, 2021, 04:32:01 PM
They about to change the rules so he's playing Sunday. 
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Rome on December 28, 2021, 04:58:33 PM
Not if he's not vaxxed. 
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: ice grillin you on December 28, 2021, 05:28:25 PM
Quote from: Rome on December 28, 2021, 04:58:33 PM
Not if he's not vaxxed.

wrong
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Rome on December 28, 2021, 06:04:03 PM
QuoteThe protocols remained the same for unvaccinated players, however. Under the league's current rules, unvaccinated players must quarantine for 10 days.


https://amp.indystar.com/amp/9029111002
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Rome on December 28, 2021, 06:07:19 PM
Welp, looks like the NFL just doubled back on itself.  Guess the iceholes who didn't get vaccinated won the day after getting everyone around them sick. 

https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/32952411/indianapolis-colts-put-unvaccinated-starting-qb-carson-wentz-covid-19-list
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Don Ho on December 29, 2021, 03:31:53 AM
So I dragged my ass down to CVS at midnight Sunday night for my booster, get with the program Ginger.
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: ice grillin you on February 13, 2022, 12:31:58 PM
holy shtein mort just reported on game day colts are done with wentz and he will be released or traded by March 18

Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: MDS on February 13, 2022, 01:11:42 PM
he cant be traded...there isnt a single team out there that would take him at his salary/give up an asset

i thought it was possible a month ago that jags game was his last. what team out there is willing to bring in him as the undisputed starter? hed have to win a battle/be a backup and that dont seem like our carsie
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: SD on February 13, 2022, 01:19:20 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on February 13, 2022, 12:31:58 PM
holy shtein mort just reported on game day colts are done with wentz and he will be released or traded by March 18

Utterly amazing Howie not only got him off our books but got decent value for him too. His draft history is horrid but the man knows how to get draft capital and manipulate salary.

QuoteThere's a belief that #Colts QB Carson Wentz will "'probably" be traded or released before March 19th, per @mortreport. That's when $15M in base salary becomes guaranteed. His future in Indianapolis looks "bleak."

Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on February 13, 2022, 01:46:21 PM
God damn that's awesome news.

Haha
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: ice grillin you on February 13, 2022, 02:42:41 PM
Quote from: MDS on February 13, 2022, 01:11:42 PM
he cant be traded...there isnt a single team out there that would take him at his salary/give up an asset

i thought it was possible a month ago that jags game was his last. what team out there is willing to bring in him as the undisputed starter? hed have to win a battle/be a backup and that dont seem like our carsie

that would be a wild ass fall from league mvp to a back up in like five minutes and he's not old
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Diomedes on February 13, 2022, 03:05:32 PM
It's entirely possible he'll never take another snap and his last game will go down as one of the biggest chokes in modern NFL.

Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: QB Eagles on February 13, 2022, 03:51:36 PM
Quote from: Diomedes on February 13, 2022, 03:05:32 PM
It's entirely possible he'll never take another snap

Seems unlikely in a league that gave snaps to Ian Book, Garrett Gilbert, and Joe Flacco last season.

Also consider that there are essentially zero NFL-ready QBs entering the league this draft. He'll get a job somewhere, although not a starting job he doesn't have to compete for.
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Diomedes on February 13, 2022, 04:06:29 PM
I think he'll quit rather than be a backup, or have to win a job.
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Zanshin on February 13, 2022, 04:41:01 PM
He's an interesting case in that he has physical talent, but he's not mentally capable of being a starter and not mentally willing to be a backup. Conundrum.
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: ice grillin you on February 13, 2022, 05:23:00 PM
Quote from: QB Eagles on February 13, 2022, 03:51:36 PM
Quote from: Diomedes on February 13, 2022, 03:05:32 PM
It's entirely possible he'll never take another snap

Seems unlikely in a league that gave snaps to Ian Book, Garrett Gilbert, and Joe Flacco last season.

Also consider that there are essentially zero NFL-ready QBs entering the league this draft. He'll get a job somewhere, although not a starting job he doesn't have to compete for.

Yeah hate on him all you want he threw for  27 TD and 7 interception in a bad year....he's not a back up
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: MDS on February 13, 2022, 05:36:50 PM
but hes not a locked in starter

no one doubts carson will have offers but i doubt hed be willing to go to a place where hed have to earn the job...maybe best case scenario for him is a blow up situation like NO or CAR give him the job
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Diomedes on February 13, 2022, 05:38:14 PM
Did you watch him?  That line could easily have been 17 ints.  Homie got lucky all year.

But yeah, he's better than plenty of guys, until it counts, then he's arguably the worst.

Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Rome on February 13, 2022, 05:46:21 PM
Quote from: MDS on February 13, 2022, 05:36:50 PM
but hes not a locked in starter

no one doubts carson will have offers but i doubt hed be willing to go to a place where hed have to earn the job...maybe best case scenario for him is a blow up situation like NO or CAR give him the job

He blinked hard with farging Jalen Hurts behind him.
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: SD on March 09, 2022, 01:53:28 PM
New starting qb for the skin Commanders lolololol

QuoteAdam Schefter
@AdamSchefter
Colts are trading QB Carson Wentz to Washington for a package of packs that is thought to include two third-round picks, sources tell ESPN.

Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: phattymatty on March 09, 2022, 02:02:10 PM
LOL. 
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on March 09, 2022, 02:03:52 PM
hahahahah

and we get to boo that ho twice a year
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: QB Eagles on March 09, 2022, 02:08:31 PM
Time for Howie to flip Minshew to the Colts for another first.
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Eagaholic on March 09, 2022, 02:15:08 PM
Haha
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Diomedes on March 09, 2022, 02:21:32 PM
oh man now we gotta hear igy tell us how good Carson is even more often
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: QB Eagles on March 09, 2022, 02:25:39 PM
Imagine when the Cowboys fail to win a division with Hurts, Wentz, and Trubisky.
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: SD on March 09, 2022, 03:30:36 PM
Already has practice throwing to Wash players

https://twitter.com/barstoolsports/status/1501631392542863365 20&t=LP5r9dRs6sfKtay1mpLaHg
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: SD on March 09, 2022, 03:34:21 PM
https://twitter.com/ActionNetworkHQ/status/1501636414835994635 20&t=vFOrtD8Pz-L27NwTh7zTiw
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Eagaholic on March 09, 2022, 05:35:17 PM
That clip was to a 49er, but more importantly it shows that Wentz clearly has a gambling problem.
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on March 09, 2022, 06:13:09 PM
QuotePhilly must be mortified.  They traded him out of conference so he wouldn't haunt them for years to come and now he is back in the division after only one year!

Quote

Lol anyone who wants to justify this is a rose colored glasses wearing homer and I got nothing to say to you.

for everyone else, this is a joke and we all know it. Another Fitzpatrick, another mediocre bullsh*t qb. And another year where we have literally no shot of even contending for a playoff run. You think they laugh at us for the name? This is even worse. What a freaking joke. This team just can't stop shooting itself

QuoteThis organization can suck my commanding tool.

QuoteIm going back to the Russia vs Ukraine war thread. This is too depressing.......
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Eagaholic on March 10, 2022, 01:00:42 AM
Carson better have a safe space room handy for the first time Taylor Heinicke comes up to shake hands.
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Don Ho on March 10, 2022, 03:31:26 AM
Quote from: QB Eagles on March 09, 2022, 02:25:39 PM
Imagine when the Cowboys fail to win a division with Hurts, Wentz, and Trubisky.

POY! 
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Don Ho on March 10, 2022, 03:34:00 AM
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on March 09, 2022, 06:13:09 PM
QuotePhilly must be mortified.  They traded him out of conference so he wouldn't haunt them for years to come and now he is back in the division after only one year!

Quote

Lol anyone who wants to justify this is a rose colored glasses wearing homer and I got nothing to say to you.

for everyone else, this is a joke and we all know it. Another Fitzpatrick, another mediocre bullsh*t qb. And another year where we have literally no shot of even contending for a playoff run. You think they laugh at us for the name? This is even worse. What a freaking joke. This team just can't stop shooting itself

QuoteThis organization can suck my commanding tool.

QuoteIm going back to the Russia vs Ukraine war thread. This is too depressing.......

OMG these are farging all-time!
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: phattymatty on March 10, 2022, 10:30:43 AM
Commanders Super Bowl odds at the Wynn:

60-1 Before Went trade
75-1 After

lol
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Don Ho on March 10, 2022, 05:56:28 PM
No way!  Holy crap that is to much.
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Rome on March 10, 2022, 06:25:53 PM
It's worth 10 bucks just to have the betting slip. 
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on March 11, 2022, 06:49:28 PM
AO1 for sure. Audience for himself.

Darren Sproles da gawd

https://www.audacy.com/94wip/sports/eagles/blount-mitchell-hint-sproles-confronted-wentz

Quote"And he damn sure wasn't happy about them going on a run when he wasn't playing. He was, 'I don't feel comfortable with them winning it without me. This doesn't feel good.' Until Darren Sproles almost whipped his ass. Cause he's a 'me' guy. ...He's a 'me' guy. He better become a 'we' guy or he's gonna have problems here."
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: MDS on March 12, 2022, 02:02:09 AM
there is no doubt in my mind wash wins in his return up here...he wont play well but theyll win the game. you saw the simmons game, dont even fight this. with that said the eagles i think win down there.

i wouldnt rule out AT ALL wash grabbing a qb in the 1st or 2nd. theyre trying to win now, whatever qb they take will be more of a project. wentz is better than what they had, so they roll with him as a seat holder and possibly fall ass backwards into a good qb if he completely changes his personality
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: SD on March 16, 2022, 05:57:04 PM
Gus Triandos

https://twitter.com/NFL_DovKleiman/status/1504195243817721856 20&t=-rRDOlBHjgnauw6vvAK5oQ
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on March 16, 2022, 06:04:31 PM
If there is another COVID outbreak I wonder how cancer survivor Ron Rivera will feel about this nutbag.
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: Rome on March 16, 2022, 06:38:02 PM
AO1Bomber?
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on March 29, 2022, 08:01:05 PM
Irsay on Wentz

"It's just, for us, it was just it was something that we had to move away from as a franchise — it was very obvious."
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: SD on March 29, 2022, 08:09:11 PM
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on March 29, 2022, 08:01:05 PM
Irsay on Wentz

"It's just, for us, it was just it was something that we had to move away from as a franchise — it was very obvious."

Irsay crushed him. Even Lurie had plenty of nice things to say about him today.

https://twitter.com/zkeefer/status/1508866671951417344 20&t=jaUtfc3yXtbcHT7cx0Z1kQ
Title: Re: Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagle
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on February 08, 2023, 09:17:07 PM
https://www.inquirer.com/eagles/eagles-jalen-hurts-carson-wentz-super-bowl-lvii-20230208.html

Howie finally admitting Wentz was a cuck and scared of Hurts