Kimmo is back on a 1 year deal. Way to get younger.
they are farged in mediocrity
wonder why kimmo wouldnt have waited it out and tried to latch onto a cup contending team
They're not winning shtein next year and Gotstabeme is gonna need someone to show him the ropes. Might as well be Kimmo.
Quote from: ice grillin you on June 13, 2014, 08:20:36 PM
wonder why kimmo wouldnt have waited it out and tried to latch onto a cup contending team
because he didn't want to be away from his family. it was either retire or play for the flyers.
(http://media.philly.com/images/061614-richards-carter-600.jpg)
Love it. Good for both of them. That photo should be hung in the Flyers executives offices as a constant reminder of their monumental & decades-long personnel fargups.
I suspect that over the long haul Hextall will do a good job with this team, but I really just don't see how they improve significantly in the short term. They need a real superstar which they don't have. They need to improve everything about the defense. What they have is a slightly above average goalie, one second tier star player and a bunch of grinders. That's good for 90-100 points a year and a consistent second round exit. ZZZZZzzzzzzzzzzzzz.
except those trades werent farg ups...flyers got the better of the deals
kings are a much better overall team with a great goalie but the flyers won those trades fairly significantly
thats not to say the timing of the trades and the kings cup wins dont look embarrassing for the flyers but there isnt an intelligent flyer fan out there that wouldnt do the same deals again
lol
IGY is 100% correct. Those guys were done here. They got Voracek, Coutourier, Schenn, Simmonds. That kind of return is amazing with the exception of how Carter gets traded to LA, and they go on to win two cups. I'd do the trades again in a heartbeat, Both guys had burned all bridges here, and could not stay sober for a week during the playoffs, A farging week on Sober Island. Those guys needed that wakeup call, it just would not have occured here. That said, Richards is washed up, he's too small/weak to compete without the fire he had early on. Carter is finally the size/speed combo without the constant float that he was here.
As Rusty said, I'm very excited with Hextall in his position. He was responsible for 17 of the 22 players on the roster this cup win, that's impressive. Also, Kimmo on a one year deal. Like it. just move Vinny for pucks
The Richards trade was especially good. Simmonds and Schenn was a great return, and Richards seems to be finished as an offensive threat.
To get Voracek and the 8th overall was a net steal. Ah well, happy for all the ex flyers who get to drink from the Cup again. The league could put together a team that was all former flyers cup winners at this point.
Yeah, love Voracek. Would love to see him improve his finishing a bit - or get two finishers to split him and Giroux and form two true scoring lines.
I hope the Kings buy out Richards on a compliance deal and the Flyers sign him. It was cause mass pandemonium and would likely prompt at least one suicide.
I have no problem with the return on the trades.
My problem is with the smug Flyers front office shipping two guys away because they couldn't work with them. Guess who was right in this situation...the guys with the two cups. Any coincidence Richards/Carter played in the last cup the Flyers were in? Sure that was Pronger's team but they don't make it that far without Richards/Carter.
That was precisely my point. They could have been cornerstones of the franchise for years but instead of building around them through successful drafting and selective free agent upgrades, Holmgren washed his hands of both of them. Just like they washed their hands of Justin Williams, Patrick Sharp, Bobrovsky, JVR and a host of others.
If you read my comments from back then I said it was insanity to trade both. I understood the trade of Richards because he was done in Philly. He couldn't play for Lavy and Holmgren used him as a scapegoat. I thought trading Carter was a stupid mistake and it's turned out to be just that. He became the clutch player he always had the potential to be in L.A. after getting the farg out of MA, and now the both of them have two goddamn rings. And it's simple, really. The idiot GM got impatient and went for the brass ring when the 2010 team came up short.
It's not just about Richards & Carter and what they got in return for them was sufficient, but when you look at the history of this team and how they operate with young players, it's just sickening.
But hey, at least we have Vinny Lecavalier, Mark Streit & Scott Hartnell to cheer for, amirite?!?
lol at richards or carter being cornerstones....granted none of the guys they got in return are either
but...richards is a worthless overpaid pos
carter has turned into a good goal scorer but isnt equal to simmonds vorachek and cooter
gimme the kings defense gaborik kopitar jonathan quick simmonds vorachek cooter and ill take my chances
i completely understand being bitter because carter and richards happened to end up on a team good enough to win a cup but what you really should be upset about is terrible contracts like hartnell...or if you wanna get salty about trades then do it towards the sharp deal or even jdub...those were truly awful...in fact the jdub trade perfectly illustrates and is a much better example of what you are talking about romey as far as giving up on young players....carter and richards are nothing more than a nice talking point for the media and wip fans
the Williams deal was one of necessity, plus Williams was constantly injured and mired in one of the streakiest careers ever. He battled what 2 or 3 knee injuries since leaving the team. It was typical Flyers FO to give up on a young talented player never the less.
And what IGY said is right, if you think that trades like that were bad, look at their signings. Hextall has the opportunity to bring this all around which is the only reason I'm excited for this org.
there was absolutely no reason much less a necessity to trade williams....he was 22 and coming into his own...he had consecutive 30 goal seasons the two years following the trade...yeah he ended up getting hurt but the flyers didnt know that....and then he came back and turned into arguably the clutchest players in nhl history...its the textbook version of what romey was talking about with their young players....trading a 22 year old for a rent a defensman who was out of the nhl 15 minutes later...as opposed to carter and richards who had played 6-7 years with the team and were 26-27....my main point is not even to rip the williams trade (altho obviously it wasnt good) but to point out it holds much more weight to rip that than it does the carter/richard deals
You guys are missing me and romes point...it has nothing to do with the return and everything to do with the smug front offices attitude towards getting rid of young players they're unhappy with. Who cares if they out bangin jersey trash. The front office wanted them gone after a cup run and they won two cups with another team. They win.
Again exactly what I meant.
And IGY ripping Richards after the years long fellating he did with that guy is priceless.
He has two rings and they made a mistake trading him. More so Carter, though, regardless of who they got back in return.
richards was the man when he first came into the league....then he turned into a little bitch and also hit his ceiling...athletes change...(i also loved the bed wetter at one time)....as a sports fan you should be able to adapt and change as well...also be able to see the forest thru the trees which you are utterly incapable of doing time after time...
trading "richie" wasnt even remotely a mistake...in fact the richards trade was a steal for the flyers...carter i suppose you can argue as he contributed significantly to their cup this year especially....and neither were "young" when they traded them
You guys forget the entire sequence of who was let go. Upshall, Lupul, Carcillo, Ben Eager, Carter, Richards. Olde City Crew was a mess. With each player they jettisoned, the team stayed the same. Basically those guys has burned all bridges. When you see two guys like Carter and Richards sent off in the same year, 10 minutes apart, you have to realize there was a lot behind it(just like Pimp). I'm not disagreeing about the orgs long standing history of bringing players up to the NHL and ruining them, then sending them off with zero value, and to no ones surprise they become good players around 27 years old. Players don't mature well in this city for this team.
richards was the opposite tho...he became a zesty player when he was 27
True. He's basically Callahan from the NYR. Smaller player, bad shoulder, entitlement issues.
Paddock was fired, replaced by Gord Murphy
Season opener is 10/8 at Boston, with the home opener vs NJ the next night. Full schedule gets released tomorrow
I think it's hilarious that two guys who win (2) Stanley Cups would be better off in Los Angeles than Philly.
Hey dickhead... has it ever occurred to you that if they still had Richards & Carter, they might have won a Cup or two themselves?
Of course not. They did "better" in both trades!
Quote from: Rome on June 21, 2014, 06:02:10 PM
has it ever occurred to you that if they still had Richards & Carter, they might have won a Cup or two themselves?
this is either the biggest troll ever or the worst joke.....I cant tell
R.J. Umberger for Hartnell
I cant believe Columbus took that contract LOL. Love it
Wait, did that really just happen? Haha. I'm not even a Hartnell hater, but that contract is garbage.
hexy magic
Actually, Umberger's cap number is pretty goddamned close to Hartnell's, just a shorter term. So I guess it'll be off the books sooner at the very least.
shorten the cap hit plus picked up a pick. not bad.
Agreed.
now if hexy can find a way to ship vinny off id be really inpressed.
Pipe dream. No one in their right mind would take Vinny, but yes that would be farging impressive.
Strange deal...sort of lateral move aside from the length of the deal. Wonder if something else is in the works.
wouldnt surprise me if that were the case.
Rumors that Hartnell requested the trade, and RJ might be moved to Edmonton for someone else
any ideas who ??
Possibly Schultz, who's a RFA
more info on him (http://www.csnphilly.com/hockey-philadelphia-flyers/flyers-free-agent-target-justin-schultz-rfa)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Justin_Schultz
QuoteJustin Schultz (born July 6, 1990) is a Canadian ice hockey defenceman. He is currently playing with the Philadelphia Flyers of the National Hockey League (NHL). Schultz was born in Kelowna, British Columbia, but grew up in Westbank, British Columbia.
On June 23, 2014, Schultz was traded to the Flyers for Braydon Coburn, Vincent Lecavalier and cash.
Quote from: Seabiscuit36 on June 23, 2014, 03:28:40 PM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Justin_Schultz
QuoteJustin Schultz (born July 6, 1990) is a Canadian ice hockey defenceman. He is currently playing with the Philadelphia Flyers of the National Hockey League (NHL). Schultz was born in Kelowna, British Columbia, but grew up in Westbank, British Columbia.
On June 23, 2014, Schultz was traded to the Flyers for Braydon Coburn, Vincent Lecavalier and cash.
:-D
Ha - it's still there.
Brayden Schenn signed...2/$5M
hartnall trade is great because they actually received a guy who will be on his skates most of the game
going to the draft friday night. got free tickets so what the hell.
any word on who hexy & company are looking at ?
The next Gretzky, no doubt.
or the next steve downie
i have faith that hextall was out of the org long enough to get ed snyder syndrome out of his blood
Quote from: ice grillin you on June 26, 2014, 10:42:08 AM
or the next steve downie
You know I love you but you really don't get sarcasm, do you?
Apparently Gino Odjick doesn't have long to live. (http://canucks.nhl.com/club/news.htm?id=723992)
Passed on going. Rumors floating around about Vinny to the Panthers and the Flyers trying to trade up to #1. None of this shtein ever happens but I'm expecting some moves tonight from Hinxstall
Lots of rumors, none of which ever seem to happen.
I do have a feeling that Hextall is going to pull off something big tonight. Nothing to base it on, just a feeling.
i know the nhl is a second rate league but holy shtein is the gap in quality bwtn last nights nba draft coverage and the nhl tonight is incredible
This is like a farging rock concert.
Travis Sanheim, Philadelphia Flyer.
I have no idea who Travis Sanheim is but I'd much rather talk about this kid than watch KK pitch.
Maybe I'm late to the party but since when does Clarke have only 4 fingers on his left hand?
Secondary to diabetes I suppose
http://www.phillysportsforums.com/forums/showthread.php?59652-Clarke-s-finger
Quote from: SD on June 27, 2014, 09:03:25 PM
Maybe I'm late to the party but since when does Clarke have only 4 fingers on his left hand?
Yakuza
QuotePhiladelphia Flyers
Grade: B+
Travis Sanheim is touted as a two-way defenseman, but only 29 points in 67 games for the Calgary Hitmen of the Western Hockey League in his draft year raises a few concerns when it comes to the offensive side of his game. But, on the other hand, he wasn't really used in power play situations, which no doubt put a dent in his point totals.
Sanheim had 20 even strength points last year, same as Ekblad, tied for 6th among all D. His 1.2 ES points/60 were same as Ekblad's too
That, on the other hand, is encouraging. It's a bit of an off the-board-pick, but that's not always a bad thing.
this is what they say about the flyers second round pick...
He finished with respectable offensive numbers in the regular season, but where he shines is in his defensive awareness and play along the boards.
http://www.inlouwetrust.com/2014/6/12/5778916/nicolas-aube-kubel-2014-nhl-draft-prospect-profile
Quote from: Geowhizzer on June 27, 2014, 06:56:09 PM
Lots of rumors, none of which ever seem to happen.
I do have a feeling that Hextall is going to pull off something big tonight. Nothing to base it on, just a feeling.
This is why I don't gamble.
http://www.broadstreethockey.com/flyers-draft-nhl/2014/6/29/5855066/travis-sanheim-schenn-comment-no-talent-flyers-penguins
Cut him.
Philadelphia Flyers star Claude Giroux spent the night in an Ottawa Police cell after an incident involving a police officer, sources tell the Sun.
Although few details were immediately available, a source said Giroux was arrested for repeatedly grabbing the buttocks of a male police officer. Alcohol is believed to have been involved.
A witness and sources say the incident occurred outside The Great Canadian Cabin in the Byward Market club district.
Ottawa Police have refused any comment on the incident. Police said they cannot comment unless charges are laid, but several sources did confirm to the Sun Giroux spent the night in jail.
Sources say he is expected to be released Wednesday without any criminal charges.
The 26-year-old Giroux was reportedly seen inside a police cruiser in Ottawa sometime around 9 p.m. on July 1. A Twitter post by shaheed09 reads "Claude Giroux in the back of a cop car downtown ottawa". it was posted to Twitter Tuesday at 9:19 p.m.
Giroux is a native of Hearst in Northern Ontario, but has lived in the Ottawa area for the past several years.
He starred with the Gatineau Olympique of the Quebec Major Junior Hockey League before joining the Philadelphia Flyers organization in 2006. He was signed by the Flyers in 2007 and most recently, got an eight-year contract from the team in 2013.
During the 2013-14 season, Giroux scored 28 goals, 58 assists for 86 points. He was third in the NHL points race.
He is a two-time NHL all-star.
How drunk was he?
Drunk enough to out himself to a cop, apparently.
(https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTbDYnwvYAzfnGO9T71GvgYFq3z7JHzS8AnD81IfFdN1Hr1JePz)
QuoteI'm hearing from several folks that Chris Therien and Steve Coates will essentially switch roles next season: Therien to TV, Coatsey back to radio. It's unclear whether those respective roles will remain exactly the same – with Therien moving between the benches for TV and Coatsey up to the radio booth – but it sounds like that's the plan right now.
The 1980 Final is on the NHL Network right now. I forgot just how royally the Flyers got farged over in that game. Everyone remembers the Nystrom offsides but the first goal the Isles scored was clearly a high stick that the officials "missed."
http://deadspin.com/the-flyers-almost-had-teal-jerseys-1604903391?utm_campaign=socialflow_deadspin_twitter&utm_source=deadspin_twitter&utm_medium=socialflow
:puke :puke :puke
QuoteSam Morin the 2013 Flyers first-round pick wore a Sixers snapback hat Monday, to show he likes the city of Philadelphia and the NBA. The 19-year-old from Quebec speaks with a French-Canadian accent and hasn't spent much time in the United States yet, but he tried to show off some knowledge about the city where he hopes to play one day.
He's up to 224 when he checked into camp this past week, was about 200 at the draft. They're saying he's still fast on his skates, and at 6'7 thats a hell of a reach/speed/size combo. I just want them to take it slow with Morin. I'm not saying he's anywhere the skill level of Chara/Hatcher/Pronger but those guys were huge on skates, and it took them a few years to find their game.
http://www.csnphilly.com/blog/700-level/people-sea-isle-really-want-see-stanley-cup
http://www.nbcphiladelphia.com/video/?_osource=SocialFlowTwt_PHBrand#!/news/local/Oldest-Flyer-Fan-Honored/268347942
Timonen diagnosed with blood clots, out indefinitely. (http://flyers.nhl.com/club/news.htm?id=727858)
... and, in a totally unrelated note:
Flyers sign defenseman Michael Del Zotto. (http://flyers.nhl.com/club/news.htm?id=727870) $1.3M / 1 year.
DelZotto is a punk, but that's a good deal. Surprised he was still available.
Quote from: Seabiscuit36 on August 06, 2014, 08:09:35 AM
DelZotto is a punk, but that's a good deal. Surprised he was still available.
My only guess is that he was too much of a pain in the ass for the production that he provided until someone got a bit desperate. And, since he still only got $1.3M, there weren't a whole lot of other suitors.
theres also the thing about how hes sucked ass the last two years
flyer cap rookie game stream - 3pm - chance to see the flyers young d men
http://www.csnphilly.com/video_content_type/capitals-flyers-rookie-game
this is not going to be the angle for the whole game is it?
Holmgren is being honored with the Lester Patrick Trophy for his contributions to hockey in the U.S. (http://flyers.nhl.com/club/news.htm?id=730583&navid=DL%7CPHI%7Chome)
G is hurt already
I have a feeling that this is going to be a long hockey season.
i think it's still only 82 games like last year, geo.
OMGHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Awful.
The Winter Classic unis are the new alternates. They're gonna wear them for about a dozen games this season
i love those jerseys the black is so key....i actually like them better than either of their regular jerseys
i havent seen it yet but it was nice waking up this morning and seeing a flyer game on the dvr
After the crowd booed the Ice Dudes at one of the previous games, the team announced tonight they're bringing the Girls back
starts tonight....game is national....for out of towners heres the rest of them...
wed - oct 8 - at boston - 730 - nbcs
tue - oct 21 - at chicago - 830 - nbcs
wed - oct 22 - at pittsburgh - 800 - nbcs
thur - nov 6 - florida - 700 - nhln
wed - nov 19 - at rangers - 800 - nbcs
thur - nov 20 - minnesota - 700 - nhln
wed - nov 26 - at detroit - 730 - nbcs
fri - nov 28 - rangers - 100 - nbc
tue - dec 2 - at san jose - 1000 - nbcs
sat - jan 3 - at new jersey - 700 - nhln
sat - jan 10 - boston - 100 - nhln
mon - jan 12 - tampa bay - 700 - nhln
wed - jan 14 - at washington - 800 - nbcs
thur - jan 15 - vancouver - 700 - nhln
mon - jan 19 - at islanders - 700 - nhln
tue - jan 20 - pittsburgh - 730 - nbcs
sun - feb 15 - at buffalo - 730 - nbcs
sat - feb 21 - nashville - 100 - nhln
sun - feb 22 - washington - 1230/300 - nbc
tue - feb 24 - at carolina - 700 - nbcs
sat - feb 28 - rangers - 800 - nbc
thur - mar 5 - st louis - 700 - nhln
sat - mar 7 - at boston - 100 - nhln
wed - mar 25 - chicago - 800 - nbcs
wed - apr 1 - at pittsburgh - 800 - nbcs
sun - apr 5 - pittsburgh - 1230/730 - nbcs
I can't remember a time I was less enthusiastic for the Flyers to start.
i know it was the correct move sending him back for his final junior season but from a selfish something to watch for reason i wish morin had made the team
hopefully at some point gostenjohnson will come up from the valley
im going to see the phantoms in a couple of weeks....they are much more interesting than the flyers
Quote from: SD on October 08, 2014, 07:57:33 AM
I can't remember a time I was less enthusiastic for the Flyers to start.
Same here. They're setup as a blah team, so hopefully they do something to surprise us all.
FWIW Eklund has them finishing 2nd in the division behind Columbus
But I agree with SD....I'm not too excited about hockey being back either. Their only major offseason move was trading Hartnell for Umberger, Del Zotto will replace Timonen, and the only other new faces are Bellemare, Blair Jones and Nick Schultz; otherwise it's pretty much the same team as last year
Quote from: BigEd76 on October 08, 2014, 11:32:34 AM
FWIW Eklund has them finishing 2nd in the division behind Columbus
did the flyers and columbus form their own division?
i'm excited you guys...don't ruin this for me
CUP!
according to the sharps the flyers are the second most valuble long shot future in the league
thats gotta count for something
All I know is I ain't starting the regular season thread. I started the Phillies thread because you lazy funholes wouldn't and look how that turned out.
Get on that shtein.
Let lil guy start it
Maybe a hockey hater starting it would have a good effect
Hey, they scored a point! Woo woo woo...
... and the drive for the #1 pick continues against the Ducks.
Hexymagic
Over/under for Berube's firing: Jan 1
EVERYONE STAY OUT OF THIS THREAD!
I can still post here, as the Flyers haven't actually started playing this season yet.
At an impossible 27-53 all-time, the Flyers have by far the lowest winning percentage (.338) in the NHL. Nine teams have more shootout victories on the road than the Flyers do total.
They're still zesty.
Ghost and Alt called up to replace Coburn and MacDonald
great first period for the flyers....20 sog....2-1 lead
I actually got to see it thanks to Fox Sports West. Only the second game I've seen all season. Ray Emery looks good.
excellent win.....great play by schenn on the g winner
i hope they keep ghost up...just let him play and learn at this level. he doesn't seem overwhelmed and you aren't asking him to be a top or 2nd pair.
Quote from: SunMo on October 29, 2014, 07:53:13 AM
i hope they keep ghost up...just let him play and learn at this level. he doesn't seem overwhelmed and you aren't asking him to be a top or 2nd pair.
He's better than most of the trash they have at D already.
Quote from: SunMo on October 29, 2014, 07:53:13 AM
i hope they keep ghost up...just let him play and learn at this level. he doesn't seem overwhelmed and you aren't asking him to be a top or 2nd pair.
healthy scratch tonight
this might be the year jake turns into a true stud
Quote from: ice grillin you on November 04, 2014, 07:58:36 PM
this might be the year jake turns into a true stud
Two goals and a post, all in the first period.
thank god for the flyers tonight because the rest of the sports on is so bad
Typical Flyers luck?
Ghost Tears his ACL - surgery Thursday (http://flyers.nhl.com/club/news.htm?id=735111&navid=DL%7CPHI%7Chome)
i was telling my boy earlier today when i heard this that nerlens cant be far behind
This team is on fire right now
Looks like we may have the beginning of a choking situation this game.
Luke Schenn was hit into the boards late in the first period and hasn't been back since. "Upper Body Injury"
MacKinnon got a major for the hit (didn't really think it warranted five - more a matter of bad positioning than the visciousness of the hit) but not a game misconduct.
From 4-0 to 4-3 in the third period.
Great save by Grossman
Flyers hang on, but if Colorado had another 30 seconds...
never in doubt
Quote from: ice grillin you on November 08, 2014, 09:27:32 PM
Quote from: SD on November 08, 2014, 08:22:52 PM
This team is on fire right now
col or philly?
Flyers in the first two periods (with the help of a five minute powerplay in the first and a 5-on-3 in the second), but Colorado dominated in the third.
As an aside, Patrick Roy's face was redder than the Phillies' caps all game long. Sunburn or blood pressure?
Lindros and LeClair inducted into the Flyers HOF tonight. Renberg came out for the unveiling of the busts.
Oh, and the Flyers farging suck. No fight in them this year - literally and figuratively.
i thought they played well last night. the ranger game was a joke
they actually have as much reason or maybe more to tank than the sixers do....connor mcdavid is ridiculous....in fact the flyers are the textbook definition of why the sixers are doing the right thing
Quote from: ice grillin you on November 21, 2014, 08:44:11 AM
they actually have as much reason or maybe more to tank than the sixers do....connor mcdavid is ridiculous....in fact the flyers are the textbook definition of why the sixers are doing the right thing
They are tanking whether they like it or not. I'd trade their pick plus Giroux for Mcdavid
Mason tonight - by far the best game of his season, and the sole reason the Flyers are even in the game.
At least one point flat out stolen by Steve Mason.
So it goes to a shootout.
Berube's first choice? Scott Laughton.
Laughton is just as good at this as the rest of the Flyers.
Might be worse than the sixers right now
Quote from: SD on November 28, 2014, 03:15:53 PM
Might be worse than the sixers right now
Pathetic effort. Curtain may be closing on Berube sooner rather than later. Something big will happen soon.
I had forgotten that the Flyers had a game this afternoon. Checking the score, so did they. Again.
They're out-tanking the Sixers.
They've lost 16 of their last 20 to the Rangers
Only 5 points behind Columbus for worst record in the league. Tank for McDavid?
Lecavalier unhappy with ice time. (http://www.csnphilly.com/hockey-philadelphia-flyers/vinny-lecavalier-frustrated-ice-time-under-craig-berube-philadelphia-flyers)
Ummm... if you want more ice time, how about maybe sucking just a little less?
Quote from: BigEd76 on November 29, 2014, 05:11:17 PM
Tank for McDavid?
this should have been the plan before the season and in a way it was because when a team like the flyers doesnt do shtein in free agency you know they arent trying to win
alcohol is a helluva drug. just bought tampa flyers tickets for the 16th because of my couple of florida friends. i hope lecavlier manages to get on the ice and pull a demeco. 11 seconds ... lol like cool slide schenn.
Whew... they managed to pull defeat out of the jaw of victory last night.
#3 in the draft lottery right now. Buffalo started 3-13-2 and has more points than us
Quote from: BigEd76 on December 03, 2014, 11:03:35 AM
#3 in the draft lottery right now. Buffalo started 3-13-2 and has more points than us
NO
easy gets a pass
Sorry, typed that while on a conference call and wasn't paying attention
How is the draft stacking up this year? Worst since JVR?
best since ever
Quote from: ice grillin you on December 03, 2014, 11:21:32 AM
Quote from: SunMo on December 03, 2014, 11:08:04 AM
easy gets a pass
he can pass my nutz into his mouth
that's a little aggressive for my preference but whatever man, you do you
just kidding easy!
The Phantoms scored 3 goals in 21 seconds, making it 3-0 36 seconds into the game
3 straight road wins and only 6 points out of a playoff spot again
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iMfZQ8tpckE
flyers are the second oldest team in the nhl and the average age of their top 6 defensemen is over 30
michael del zotto's neck piece after getting cut by a skate last night
(https://cdn1.vox-cdn.com/thumbor/ND5rr1NpvK9oHMHH_RwKal8fU50=/800x0/filters:no_upscale()/cdn0.vox-cdn.com/uploads/chorus_asset/file/2895310/Screen_Shot_2015-01-01_at_2.43.16_PM.0.png)
Clint Malarchuk special
malarchuk was on some horror movie shtein
Damn that's pretty deep...
Malarchuk's is amazing...the blood in the jugular is some high psi shtein
Giroux just got a skate blade in the leg - carried off quickly.
Quote from: Geowhizzer on January 02, 2015, 09:04:24 PM
Giroux just got a skate blade in the leg - carried off quickly.
lottery positioning may have just gotten a little rosier
Apparently Giroux "got lucky" because of a kevlar-lined sock or something. Still looks nasty.
(http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c381/nwtguy/giroux_zpsd22e00b8.jpg)
Flyers declared him "probable" for tomorrow night against the Devils.
please implode like this more often
lay down like the dogs you are.....for the rest of the year
Does Berube make it until the end of the season? This team has pretty much stopped trying.
hopefully he does....whatever hurts the team the most...hes sucha small time coach...he should be coaching a team in the WHL
lay dead for mcdavid
lol jagr hat trick
columbus - 35 - 6.5%
philadelphia - 35 - 7.5%
new jersey - 35 - 8.55
arizona - 34 - 9.5%
buffalo - 31 - 11.5%
carolina - 26 - 13.5%
edmonton - 25 - 20%
i went to flyers caps tonight and it was legit the most boring sporting event i've ever been to in my life.
also the ugliest group of people i've even seen under one roof.
Probably not saying much, but tonight was the most entertaining Flyers game of the season. Somehow Crosby and the Penguins bring out the best in the Flyers.
Rinaldo will be missing some time for his hit on Letang. 20 years ago it isn't even a penalty.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z7nr2UlQZxI
Voracek pounded the tar out of Scuderi, too.
Edit: Found the video on YouTube
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SBNWhWNjGHM
Even the French poosy punched n00b goon in the face
Pittsburgh writer doesn't like the rough stuff. (http://dkonpittsburghsports.com/2015/01/21/column-no-not-just-another-loss-flyers/)
who would go to a flyer pens happy valley winter classic?
In. In in in in in. In.
IN.
im thinking its gonna be 2017....50 year anniversaries for both franchises
I'll find a way to get there from Florida.
the nhl all star game doesnt even rise to the level of farce.
29 goals.
Quote from: Rome on January 25, 2015, 08:03:40 PM
the nhl all star game doesnt even rise to the level of farce.
29 goals.
lol....I watched like five minutes of it earlier was saying the same thing....what a complete joke...it actually might be worse than the pro bowl if that's possible
could the flyers farging stop winning....I didn't think a franchise could pass the Phillies as the most pathetic in the city but they are real close
Timmonen has been cleared to begin skating.
Ryan White's first fight with the Flyers, and he breaks Matt Martin's nose.
https://vine.co/v/OFFxnW1WVIw
andrew mcdonald who makes 5 million a year for the next four years has been a healthy scratch for the last four games
What a Hoyda play by schenn
Yes rob zepp is an actual nhl goaltender
Been really impressed with ryan white today
Such a great pass by jake
Quote from: ice grillin you on February 22, 2015, 02:15:24 PM
Yes rob zepp is an actual nhl goaltender
And somehow the Flyers are 5-1 in games he starts.
Quote from: ice grillin you on February 22, 2015, 03:09:58 PM
Such a great pass by jake
And a nice job picking the corner by Del Zotto. And a nice screen by Bellemare (and a nice whining job by Holtby afterwards about it).
Quote from: Geowhizzer on February 22, 2015, 03:20:45 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on February 22, 2015, 02:15:24 PM
Yes rob zepp is an actual nhl goaltender
And somehow the Flyers are 5-1 in games he starts.
just good enough to ruin their draft pick but not quite good enough to belong in the nhl
story of the flyers
they're two points out of a playoff spot. try being happy for once, you stupid jew mick.
I'm afraid any real chance of a top-3 pick is gone.
Right now they're 2 points out of the last slot. So there's a chance they can be fodder for the #1 seed come playoff time.
Quote from: Rome on February 22, 2015, 04:44:37 PM
they're two points out of a playoff spot. try being happy for once, you stupid jew mick.
sooooooo happy they can crash and burn as a number 8 seed instead of getting a monumental game changing prospect
and romey loves the tanking sixers, too
Quote from: MDS on February 22, 2015, 05:33:04 PM
and romey loves the tanking sixers, too
romey loves mcw
romey has no idea who mcw is
yeah that's kinda my point
I actually am getting fonder of the Sixers as time goes on. They're like a fat girl at last call.
As for the Flyers, Todd and I didn't watch a second of that today. We were too busy watching the run-up to the Oscars on E!.
lil guy was fake broadcasting the red carpet no doubt in my mind
I was beating off to Anna Kendrick.
Heyyyyyooooo!
lol
QuoteEric Lindros has launched a $3 million defamation lawsuit against one-time NHL referee Paul Stewart and the Huffington Post, after Stewart wrote a column for the online news website that allegedly made the former Philadelphia Flyers star forward look like a "dickhead."
Heard a few people on local shows - think Morganti was one of them - saying Lindros is a Hofer. I just don't see it.
Yeah he's not a hof'er
With the way the second half of his career crashed and burned he more than almost anyone needed a cup to get in
Hey Kimmo, are your clots gone?
Pretty much
OK, you're outta here
Just got traded to Chicago for a 2nd + 2016 conditional
2016 pick is guaranteed to be a 4th. Could become a 3rd if Chicago wins 2 rounds and Timmonen plays 50%+ of the games, it becomes a 3rd rounder. If Chicago wins 3 rounds and Timmonen plays 50%+ of the games, it becomes a second rounder.
Not bad for a guy who wasn't supposed to play at all this year.
Now send Coburn out of there.
a podunk second hand organization trades someone to an elite franchise
im gonna leave it up two doods from the philly and florida suburbs to rave about it
elder white hockey fans are the best
the amount of ranger fans in the building tonight is embarrassing
The Flyers are an embarrassment so it's fitting
i wish they were embarrassing but unfortunatley they are super mediocre
Mason was pretty damn good last night. Other than the flub in the first seven seconds which didn't count. That was awful.
Coburn traded to Tampa for a 1st and 3rd round pick in the 2015 draft, and defenseman Radko Gudas.
Wow
hexy magic and it's hold on the nhl begins.
Edit: nm. I read the summary wrong. Nice trade.
Rusty Downer to the rescue.
A 1st, 2nd, 3rd, and 4th for Timmonen and Coburn? Didn't think that was possible. Both good moves.
package deal in the making ??
i could care less what they got for coburn....the best part of the move is that this is not your old flyers who in the past would have been delsuional deadline buyers because they have crept to within 6 pts of a playoff spot....hexy is signalling he knows this team sucks and its time to wipe the slate clean as much as possible...all praise due allah
Quote from: ice grillin you on March 02, 2015, 09:13:03 AM
i could care less what they got for coburn....the best part of the move is that this is not your old flyers who in the past would have been delsuional deadline buyers because they have crept to within 6 pts of a playoff spot....hexy is signalling he knows this team sucks and its time to wipe the slate clean as much as possible...all praise due allah
Pretty much, Holmgren farged this team bad with signing bad players to long term deals...his trades blew too. At least Hextall is going away from that. Said it before but it bares repeating, Ed can't be gone soon enough. The mentality has always been lets win now for Ed not lets build a good team for the future.
Flyers trade players for draft picks...omg it's so smart
Sixers do it...FRAUDS!
lol...not just drafts picks but for a player who isnt playing this year because of a blown out knee
these idiots are now only 3 pts out of a playoff spot pending bruins game tonight....they are 3-3 with two minutes left against calgary
flames win in a SO...flyers four pts back....might as well make the playoffs at this point
They're 4 points out with 16 games to play.
Settle down. They have plenty of time to blow it.
And Boston has two games in hand. Barring some minor miracle, they're not making the playoffs.
Get ready for pick 10-12.
they play tommorow
Jeff Reese is out as goalie coach. Weird that they're doing it now. Hextall and Berube aren't commenting on it
whats the deal on these kids coming out at the top of the next draft ? any worth packaging picks/players to move up for ?
Trade every pick for Connor Mcdavid
Quote from: smeags on March 06, 2015, 12:47:58 PM
whats the deal on these kids coming out iat the top of the next draft ? any worth packaging picks/players to move up for ?
mcdavid isn't a guy that gets traded....buffalo is tanking so hard for him...hes a superstar prospect on the level of a crosby
eichel is a notch below but I still cant see anyone dealing the #2 pick
jack edwards puke
what a snipe from jake
Boston cashes in on the Bettman special penalty called on Simmons. Going to OT.
Blow
jake has to bury his chance....that's what great players do
Quote from: ice grillin you on March 07, 2015, 03:58:45 PM
jake has to bury his chance....that's what great players do
Yeah, that was one he wishes he had back.
Probably better that they lost in the long run, but listening to that farg Jack Edwards ejaculate over his microphone while rubbing himself raw induced murderous impulses in me.
sam bam morin
http://gfycat.com/SevereSoupyDuckbillplatypus
six goals in the 1P by the two worst teams in the nhl
They just showed the concourse as they cut to commercial. Two Gagne jerseys, a Richards jersey and a Briere.
Adults buying and wearing jerseys is farging retarded.
you insensitive farging prick, why do you hate on retards so much ?
Looks like Berube is gonna throw players under the bus on his way out the door. First Mason, now Lecavalier
the whole organization is a mess. hexy wants to build through youth and the owner is still living for the quick hit.
Berube's an ass and an awful coach but farg LeCavalier. He's the perfect example of what's wrong with this team. He and Chief both need to get gone.
No chance Hextall gets to do a total rebuild with that fossil of an owner in charge.
Watching the Flyers against playoff teams, you'd never guess how farging awful they've been this year.
YOU CAN'T BEAT US!
Rallying win for next year..."see were fine we can beat playoff caliber teams"
Mason was stellar today
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CB2XpM_VEAAP_Ad.jpg)
Holy crap what an ending that was
Quote from: ice grillin you on April 07, 2015, 09:41:00 PM
Holy crap what an ending that was
My son and I were listening to it on the way home from his baseball game and heard both Islander goals with the goalie pulled, the second just as we got home. I put on the TV to catch overtime just in time to see the Schenn goal.
What a soft farging goal that was for Halak to give up after his team came back to tie, especially since they only needed to make it to overtime to clinch a playoff berth.
Flyers clinched the #7 spot in the lottery last night, so today's game is meaningless. Hoping Ottawa and Boston win and Pittsburgh loses at Buffalo, then mock
the difference between 7 and 8 i believe is less than 1% so todays game didn't really matter regardless of what happened yesterday
nhl draft lottery is saturday night right before the pens rangers game at 800
In PC today, Hextall said he has not yet made a decision on Berube.
Berube's the perfect assistant coach type. As a head coach he's just plain bad.
Chief got axed
What are the odds Hex brings back John Stevens? 2:1? 3:1?
when does lapierriere get announced as new head coach ?
Hitchcock
i will seriously lose my shtein if they bring back another ex flyer. Bylsma or Babcock plz
McLellan from SJ is another possibility, but he couldn't win shtein with good teams either
Panaccio says Babcock, McLellan or Julien
should have never gotten rid of lavs
I wanna see if berube gets a job somewhere else in the organization....not that I would really care if he does but if he doesn't and is just cut completely loose then maybe ed really has stepped back a little
melrose predicting babcock.
whoever they bring in make sure the staff is at least partially filled with some defenseman teaching motherfargers....with that group of youngins on there way they are gonna need it
Quote from: ice grillin you on April 17, 2015, 11:42:54 AMI wanna see if berube gets a job somewhere else in the organization
Hex is live on CSN right now and said it's highly unlikely
My guess is McClellan. George McClellan.
(http://www.mrlincolnswhitehouse.org/upload/mcclellan_geo_welles_diary_large.jpg)
http://www.tsn.ca/off-season-game-plan-philadelphia-flyers-1.280357
Quote from: ice grillin you on May 11, 2015, 12:32:37 PM
http://www.tsn.ca/off-season-game-plan-philadelphia-flyers-1.280357
Thanks for posting. Just don't make more big-spending FA mistakes and let some young guys develop and get playing time. Really interested in the who the coach will be next year.
im really excited to see whose gonna make it big from the group of defenseman...with those guys plus all the picks this year they could have a really bright future if just a few of them develop into fronline players...but i agree the coach is key...they need a top notch guy to run things no more clown shows like the berubes stevens and barbers of the world...all they gotta do is look at what trotz has done in washington
This org needs Babcock, If they can get him the Defensive future of the team looks bright.
dave hakstol - head coach
Who?
head coach of University of North Dakota.
i'm sure this will go just fine
Someone check on Havas
The first thing I read about him mentioned the culture he created at UND
culture ? uh oh ... i guess simmonds' days are numbered.
hextall must of liked the name
he's not an ex-flyer so that's a plus.
Best hire in years. UND is a dominant college program and this is just the sort of shakeup that sorry ass franchise needs. No freaking retreads and this guy will be great with the young talent.
anyone know what type of game he coaches ? defensive ? attacking ?
no goalie...it's unorthodox but seems to work for him
so he's the chip kelly of the nhl. nice.
He coaches hockey, I believe.
Let me check Wikipedia. Be right back...
Quote from: smeags on May 18, 2015, 12:11:30 PM
he's not an ex-flyer so that's a plus.
Practically no college hockey coaches make the jump to the NHL. Still, without knowing anything about this guy I'll agree with this. At least they didn't hire Lapierrier or someone lame like that.
def a step away from "flyers hockey" which is a good thing.
http://www.grandforksherald.com/sports/und-hockey/3588012-und-mens-hockey-meet-dave-hakstol
Good to see Hextall go off the board a bit. Get some new blood in the organization.
Read this article (I guarantee it won't take long). ESPECIALLY you igy
http://www.philly.com/philly/sports/flyers/20150519_The_upshot_of_the_Flyers__decision_to_hire_Hakstol.html
that was inspring.
burying forever the "flyer way" falls under the category of a good culture change
40 years ago today....for-tee
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CGBadi0XIAAW5wU.jpg)
hey ed, hear that ? 40yrs, 40 farging years you farging jerk.
i dont think you can blame ed
in those 40 years they have made 6 cup finals and 7 conference finals....team just hasnt been able to finish
Since the Blackhawks are in the finals the 4th the Flyers got for Kimmo now turns into a 2nd
Imagine if the NHL hadn't rigged the 2007 draft and the Flyers had gotten Kane instead of Reeeeeemer.
Thanks, Obama.
There's zero doubt in my mind Holmgren still takes JVR
No doubt. It's funny how the Flyers ended up with probably the second best player in that draft in Jake Voracek, though.
Quote from: SD on May 31, 2015, 09:06:43 AM
Since the Blackhawks are in the finals the 4th the Flyers got for Kimmo now turns into a 2nd
hexy has a little hinkie magic in him
Glad they got rid of Timonen. He had plenty of opportunities but could never finnish.
im glad they got rid of him because hes going to retire in the next week and a half
finnish
yes, and given his lack of production there's norway they could afjord his salary
awesome must read
http://www.philly.com/philly/sports/flyers/Dave_Hakstol.html
nice article. gonna be interesting seeing how this plays out.
again though, he's not an ex-flyer so that's already a thumbs up.
im not sixer excited but im really excited about the flyers future...love everything ive heard and read about the coach....love hextalls hinkie magic like approach thus far...love the young defenseman
now just need to infiltrate the system with some scoring talent and purge the payroll of the vinnys of the world and they will be on their way
yes, vinny needs to go. yesterday. farging waste of money. macdonald too but damn there is a ton of money still on his deal.
http://www.spotrac.com/nhl/philadelphia-flyers (http://www.spotrac.com/nhl/philadelphia-flyers)/
my god look at luke schenn's deal.
schenns deal is great....first of all its in its last year...but even if it wasnt hes only 26 i think....and its not even a big yearly numbver...i also think schenn is better than people give him credit for...he gets hated on unfairly because of the trade
i think schenn is a really good trade chip...cant really ask for a better asset than him right now...owed little money is young and is becoming a free agent
he farging stinks. period.
no he doesnt...but even if you wanna believe that...pointing out his contract is dumb
Burp
Quote from: ice grillin you on June 05, 2015, 01:17:25 PM
no he doesnt...but even if you wanna believe that...pointing out his contract is dumb
he farging stinks. anything over league minimum is too much.
Schenn is a sloth. He's even worse to watch live. Holmgren really farged this teams cap for the long haul.
Agreed. That's why they hired Chip, II. Hexy knows the roster is years away from being fumigated so you might as well get a guy who can learn the nuances of the pro game while they rebuilt the talent and cut away the dead brush that was left behind.
lol - still paying pronger.
not defending homer cause he indeed handed out some atrocious deals but everything will be cleaned up in the next 24 months...they are in a really bad place with exactly one deal right now and that is mcdonald...they arent the phillies who might be a decade away from competing
pronger doesnt count towards the cap so he is irrelevant unless you care aboiut uncle ed's cake
this is strong boner medicine...
http://www.philly.com/dailynews/sports/20150616_Flyers__Icemen_Hopeth.html
Quote1. TRAVIS SANHEIM
Position: Defense
Age: 19 (March 29, 1996)
Drafted: 2014, Round 1 (17th overall)
2014-15 team: Calgary Hitmen (WHL)
Key stat: 83 points in 84 games, including WHL playoffs.
Scoop: No player from the 2014 draft has risen as quickly as Sanheim, who rocketed up the charts and grabbed the attention of teams in the second half of last season. He is now a bona fide, can't-miss star in the making, dazzling scouts with his deft hands and ease of movement around the ice. He was named Calgary's defenseman of the year. This winter, he likely will be one of the leaders for Team Canada at the world junior championships in Finland. Plus, he's 6-4 and still growing.
cant wait for the first four rounds of the nhl draft....way more exciting than the nba draft
i want that kid provorov so bad tonight
only two picks to go and one of them is hanifan
and there he goes...please sports gods for once give me something to be happy about and dont make the devils take provorov
farging josh harris on stage with the devils and they dont dagger me
leggo hexy
BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOM!!!!!!!!!
Provorov it is...nice pick
this is everything okafor is not....super excitement
i was reading a couple weeks ago he could be a top four defenseman for 1/3 of the teams in the nhl next year
Great pick. First time in franchise history they took a Russian in the first round. Pretty sure Snider and Clarke were so pissed standing on that stage
"Ivan understands the game extremely well and is able to use his considerable talents to contribute in any area and every situation. Calm, poised and competitive he is in command when he's on the ice. The best defenceman in this draft and I see him as a number one who will anchor a blue line." - TSN Director of Scouting Craig Button
the flyer defense prospect depth chart is farging insane right now
What did they trade to move up 5 spots?
Travis Konecny
Steal where they drafted him
Quote from: ice grillin you on June 26, 2015, 09:07:21 PM
the flyer defense prospect depth chart is farging insane right now
It's scary
sounds like uncle ed and bob took over for that pick...not sure why you would trade up for that
They traded 61 and 29...supposedly he was projected as a top 15 pick
Quote
A talented scoring forward that can play either as a center or on the wing; plays with the bite and intensity of a guy who is willing to do anything to win a game. Possesses dynamic skating ability that allows him to accelerate rapidly with each step, incredible hockey sense, electrifying puckhandling skills, and a lightning release on his shot; when you put this skillset together with hard-nosed determination, proactiveness in all three zones, and a physical willingness to grind and persevere, you get a game-changer who can be extremely difficult to play against. (Curtis Joe, EP 2014)
- See more at: http://www.eliteprospects.com/player.php?player=205148#sthash.reavYsbc.dpuf
he cant skate but is a fireplug
welcome to 1984
Love the Konecny pick at 24. The kid is blazing fast, is great with the puck, and is nasty as farg out there.
Hexy's killing it tonight.
whoa maybe not...
"A talented scoring forward that can play either as a center or on the wing; plays with the bite and intensity of a guy who is willing to do anything to win a game. Possesses dynamic skating ability that allows him to accelerate rapidly with each step, incredible hockey sense, electrifying puckhandling skills, and a lightning release on his shot; when you put this skillset together with hard-nosed determination, proactiveness in all three zones, and a physical willingness to grind and persevere, you get a game-changer who can be extremely difficult to play against."
"Travis Konecny has excellent speed, and tremendous acceleration. He utilizes it both on the rush, and to be a cannonball on the forecheck. He has good balance and is strong on his skates. This helps him to to grind in the corners, work in the cycle game, or fight through checks to get to the front of the net. Konecny has strong agility and combines that with his great stickhandling to elude defenders and create plays. His speed must be respected as he can take a defender wide and cut to the net. This gives him the ability to slow up quickly and create shooting or passing lanes. Add to this great vision and passing ability and Konecny is the type of player who can make his linemates better. He also has a strong wrist shot and a good release. The good stickhandling and soft hands also come in handy for Konecny when he gets close to the net, as he can beat goalies in close, or can tip in shots, or pounce quickly on rebounds. He has the versatility to play centre, right wing, and even play the point on the powerplay at times."
"Quick and spirited scoring forward, Konecny projects as a top six sniper who can play anywhere in the top nine. Despite being undersized, he plays with good physicality and won't back down from highly contested areas. Konecny's playing style resembles a player like Phil Kessel in the way that he can unleash a shot in mid-stride."
Quote from: ice grillin you on June 26, 2015, 09:54:52 PM
he cant skate but is a fireplug
welcome to 1984
I haven't seen one mock draft that had him going over pick 18.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?t=29&v=Qr5rN7GeJsk
craig button who is the god at this stuff has him as a fire plug type who needs to improve his skating....in this case he seems like the only one
I posted the highlight video. Please just watch it for yourself. We're always bitching that the Flyers get guys with cement in their skates. I don't know how he did it but Hexy nailed this guy who fell 5-10 spots further than he should have. Dude's a player, man.
when it comes to hockey prospects there is no one i believe more than you
IN
Quote from: Rome on June 26, 2015, 10:02:53 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?t=29&v=Qr5rN7GeJsk
Slick
I know fast white skaters like you know brothas with bubbles.
Is the draft over? I went to the bathroom and now track and fields on
Quote from: SD on June 26, 2015, 10:24:55 PM
Is the draft over? I went to the bathroom and now track and fields on
lol....day two tomorrow
sanheim
provorov
morin
ghost
So what has been a giant roster hole since Pronger went mooshbrain is now potentially the team's biggest strength. I am feeling something I haven't felt in a while. Hope.
If Hextall can clear off any of the bad contracts today I might really start springing a rubbery bone.
Quote from: rjs246 on June 27, 2015, 10:13:39 AM
If Hextall can clear off any of the bad contracts today I might really start springing a rubbery bone.
thinly veiled do whatever you have to do to get vinny out of town post
I didn't intend to veil it at all. farg Vinny and his anchor of a contract. Never understood the signing in the first place and his sissybitch attitude coupled with the predictable lack of production means he needs to be launched into space. Stat.
well you posed it as getting rid of bad contracts....i think all the other bad contracts combined would be forgotten if vinny was banished...
forgotten at least for a little while
Agreed. But more to the point, farg Vinny.
i admittedly also have an un natural hatred of vinny but truth be told andrew macdonald contract is way worse
felix sandstrom....ive seen a few places call him the best goalie in the draft...not sure how they got him at 70...maybe a terrible goalie draft...but if he is in the mix for best in the draft then 70 seems like a steal
heres why...
QuoteSandstrom missed chunks of the season due to various ailments, after he came into the season as a top prospect. This lack of playing time has led to divisive stances within the industry, with some scouts claiming he's clearly good enough to go in the top two rounds and others stating he's more of a middle-round selection. Sandstrom has shown advanced play for several seasons and has impressive raw tools. He moves pretty well for a player his size, while not being erratic. His goaltender IQ grades high, as he tracks the puck pretty well and stays ahead of the play. Sandstrom is a roll of the dice, as its not outside the realm of possibility that he's in the NHL within three or four years, but his lack of playing time could scare teams.
My immediate knee jerk reaction to any Flyers/goalie news of any sort is dread. Even this, which seems like a reasonable, low impact drafting of some dude named Felix. Dread.
They took another goalie
Matej Tomek
So 2 goalies picked today
Plus they have Stolarz who's a decent prospect
stolarz is garbage
reading on tomek he looks to be a boom or bust type....was a hakstol recruit at nd
this seems too good to be true but corey proman who is espn.com's hockey guy had david kase as his 30th best prospect....flyers got him at 129
hexy killin it?
QuoteHe's a quick, shifty skater who can lead a rush and is elusive in tight spaces. He's a great playmaker, who can dictate the play on the man advantage with his skill and vision. He also shows the willingness and hockey IQ to be an effective defensive player; as he gains strength, that aspect of his game should improve even more. He hasn't really produced gaudy numbers, but on a scouting level, I think he's looked fantastic at times and has the ability to be a potential home run for the team that lands him.
Well ahead of older brother Ondrej in development at the same age, David Kase is a wrecking ball of skill who shows both utility and fireworks offensively. A first round pick of the Armada in the Q, Kase was the clear leader of the CZE U17 team in Nova Scotia. On display was an impact player game to game who showed a routine ability to beat opponent's one on one and finish high skill plays off.
At the U18, he clearly was reeled in a bit as a result of the bigger, faster players, but still managed to score some big goals and display heart all over the ice. As a fast, though chippy skater, he can stand to improve his agility and overall fluidity of stride. Very light on his skates this past season, natural growth in size and keeping a high compete level should be enough to keep him ahead of the curve as the stakes get raised
coooooooooooooooooooooooooooop
the guy who did this write up just tweeted that he was a huge steal
http://www.sbncollegehockey.com/2015/6/19/8812973/cooper-marody-scouting-report-nhl-draft-prospect-profile
Quote from: ice grillin you on June 27, 2015, 12:48:09 PM
hexy killin it?
He gets an A+ for this draft, an F that he hasn't moved anyone yet
Quote from: SD on June 27, 2015, 01:18:23 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on June 27, 2015, 12:48:09 PM
hexy killin it?
He gets an A+ for this draft, an F that he hasn't moved anyone yet
fair enough but it takes two to tango and they have some horrid contracts to move
provorov then all goalies and forwards
9 picks and they took 3 Russians and no fighters
Quote from: BigEd76 on June 27, 2015, 01:56:02 PM
9 picks and they took 3 Russians and no fighters
the russian thing was played out in like 1998 easy....they have been drafting russians since 1990 and drafted three of them in 1992 alone
Quote from: ice grillin you on June 27, 2015, 01:24:45 PM
Quote from: SD on June 27, 2015, 01:18:23 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on June 27, 2015, 12:48:09 PM
hexy killin it?
He gets an A+ for this draft, an F that he hasn't moved anyone yet
fair enough but it takes two to tango and they have some horrid contracts to move
They can't really trade Vinny until his July $2 mill bonus is paid but I seriously doubt he's moveable anyway.
Macdonald/Schenn/Read/umberger is dead weight he should do everything in his power to rid.
macdonald is a complete joke....i like schenn....read was a one year wonder
Schenn is awful...I don't know how many games you paid attention to him live but he's consistently out of position, is slow, and generally has no purpose. I'm so glad the guys they've drafted over the last few years are out of the typical slow plodding Flyers mold they think is so great. Even Morin can move for a big man.
I'm embarrassed to use the Lets Go Flyers Facebook page as a source but I just read that they traded Grossman AND Pronger's contract to the Coyotes. Um is that even possible? And if so holy goddamned shtein.
Well it's on ESPN now so I guess it's a thing. That's one bad contract down. Actually got some things in return. Some Gagner something or other and a fourth rounder.
Edit: also I educated myself on the pronger contract and it wasn't impacting philly's cap. Not sure why they would trade it or why AZ would want it but who cares. No more Grossman.
Wait, they rid themselves of Grossman and Pronger's contract in the same deal?
How is that even remotely possible?
Quote from: rjs246 on June 27, 2015, 05:20:06 PM
Well it's on ESPN now so I guess it's a thing. That's one bad contract down. Actually got some things in return. Some Gagner something or other and a fourth rounder.
Edit: also I educated myself on the pronger contract and it wasn't impacting philly's cap. Not sure why they would trade it or why AZ would want it but who cares. No more Grossman.
The Pronger money stayed on the cap all offseason until the first day of the season when the Flyers would place him on LTIR. So the availability of that money when they actually needed it was the issue. The yotes needed to get to the cap floor so they needed to take money on to comply.
Yeah as long as Pronger is on the LTIR or whatever I don't think it even matters, no idea what the point is of trading it, or taking it on.
NVM, SD got it.
Quote from: rjs246 on June 27, 2015, 05:20:06 PM
Well it's on ESPN now so I guess it's a thing. That's one bad contract down. Actually got some things in return. Some Gagner something or other and a fourth rounder.
Edit: also I educated myself on the pronger contract and it wasn't impacting philly's cap. Not sure why they would trade it or why AZ would want it but who cares. No more Grossman.
If I remember correctly, the offseason cap is 10% higher than it is in the regular season, but LTIR contracts count towards that cap. So it gives the Flyers some extra maneuverability in the offseason.
A team like Arizona would like it because it allows them to reach the cap floor without actually shelling out the money. Pronger counts nearly $5 million towards the cap (or the floor in this case), but they only have to pay him $525K.
EDIT: SD already said this. Should have read ahead, I guess.
There's noise that Hextall isn't sure that he will keep Gagner.
Quote from: Geowhizzer on June 27, 2015, 08:35:17 PM
There's noise that Hextall isn't sure that he will keep Gagner.
they definitely arent....they will buy him out
Hextall somehow got a late round pick in the deal too.
hexy magic
QuoteSome scouts considered Provorov, 18, the best blue-liner in the draft. If nothing else, he's one of the few who has been to Lincoln Financial Field for an Eagles game.
He came to North America 4 years ago in order to adjust to the culture and learn English. He watched plenty of movies, "Gladiator" is his favorite, and debuted with Wilkes-Barre/Scranton Knights of the U16 Atlantic Youth Hockey League in 2011-12.
This past season, playing for Brandon of the WHL (Hextall's hometown in Manitoba), Provorov led all WHL rookies with 61 points. He had 15 goals and 46 assists.
Provorov is so immersed in the culture here that he went to a couple of Eagles games.
So. If they do buy this dude out, what do they do with the $7mln in cap space? The right-now defense still sucks, despite the swarm of young talent waiting to come up and they don't have the offensive firepower of a legit contender.
they shouldnt do anything....hexy has been prudent in not doing things the way the flyers of the past have always operated....most of all not needlessly spending money when you arent ready to win...they need to carry cap space for the next couple of years until they are in a position to contend then make a power move or two....right now and for the immediate future its all about talent development
Do you actually think that management will do nothing with their cap space? I don't think this front office, Hextall magic or no, is capable of sitting on a pile of available cash.
Quote from: rjs246 on June 29, 2015, 11:00:06 AM
Do you actually think that management will do nothing with their cap space? I don't think this front office, Hextall magic or no, is capable of sitting on a pile of available cash.
if you asked me a year ago i probably would have said no....but hexy has been a revelation thus far....whether ed lets him continue on this same path is definitely an open question.....i dont know the answer...right now i feel very positive tho
whatever hextall said and/or did to convince snider to step back from the flyers norm is working so far. i am still a little worried that if the flyers make enough of an improvement to make the playoffs that snider gets impatient.
putting together a group for flyers islanders in brooklyn next january if anyone is interested
the flyers traded Rinaldo to the Bruins for a 2017 3rd round pick. Hexy magic is a real thing
hexy > hinkie ?
Holy shtein that is amazing. I can't believe they got anything for that relic. Hextall was by far my favorite Flyer growing up. He's making a serious play for Sexy RJS Boner Time.
Quote from: SunMo on June 29, 2015, 03:42:32 PM
the flyers traded Rinaldo to the Bruins for a 2017 3rd round pick. Hexy magic is a real thing
Hextall's making me question my sexuality
(credit sunmo)
Quote from: ice grillin you on June 26, 2015, 09:54:52 PM
he cant skate but is a fireplug
welcome to 1984
Sounds a little like cokehead richie
Gotta say, Hextall is doing everything you wanted to see in this org. Drafting best available talent, focusing on Goalie and Defense. I can't for the life of me recall a time when they had this many young guys in the system who were legit top tier Dmen talent. Provorov might make the team this year, i'm not hurt if they decide to let him mature one more, i trust hextall in this because he doesn't rush guys along. Sanheim has turned into something special at the lower levels, I really want to see how he stacks up this year.
Goalie wise, Felix was a steal there by all accounts, he's got the mental part they think. His body just broke down with mono once again. As good as Hextalls first three picks were, he was getting amazing value in the middle and later rounds. Moving Rinaldo for anything was amazing, as was Grossman. The future looks bright for once.
Brind'Amour and Jimmy Watson are this year's inductees to the Flyers Hall of Fame
no buyout for gagne....gonna stay a flyer
So a 40 pt/year dude in his mid-20s on a one-year deal? Meh, the definition of low-risk.
He's a terrible plus minus player, but dynamic in shootouts. #winning
if the team starts winning shootouts, you know hexy has powers.
It's a real who cares move. What I'm hoping is they have something in the works to move Vinnie and need the extra forward. Vinnie is due a cap bonus in July so no team will take his salary on till after that's paid. It's a long shot but they moved other crappy contracts and Hextall is on a roll so there's hope.
So i got a nice email from directv stating that the NHL lost a lawsuit, and I'm entitled to free Flyers games. It's all about the blackouts that happened all the time for Flyers/Blackhawks/Rangers etc. Anyone else get one of these?
QuoteYou Have an Opportunity to Subscribe to Discounted Individual Team Packages through NHL GameCenter LIVE and You May Have Access to Free NHL Center Ice Programming through Comcast or DIRECTV
A federal court authorized this notice. This is not a solicitation from a lawyer.
• A proposed settlement (the "Settlement") has been reached in a class action lawsuit brought on behalf of consumers who purchased NHL GameCenter LIVE from the NHL or purchased NHL Center Ice from Comcast or DIRECTV between March 12, 2008, and June 10, 2015. The proposed settlement is between the individuals who brought that lawsuit and the defendants. The defendants are the National Hockey League ("NHL"), NHL Enterprises L.P., NHL Interactive Cyberenterprises LLC, New York Rangers Hockey Club, New Jersey Devils LLC, New York Islanders Hockey Club L.P., Comcast-Spectacor L.P., Lincoln Hockey LLC, Lemieux Group, L.P., Hockey Western New York LLC, Chicago Blackhawks Hockey Team Inc., San Jose Sharks LLC, DIRECTV, LLC, DIRECTV Sports Networks LLC, DIRECTV Sports Net Pittsburgh, LLC d/b/a Root Sports Pittsburgh, Comcast Corp., Comcast Sportsnet Philadelphia, L.P, Comcast Sportsnet Mid-Atlantic, L.P., Comcast Sportsnet California, LLC, Comcast Sportsnet Chicago, LLC, and The Madison Square Garden Company ("Defendants"). The lawsuit alleges that the NHL's rules establishing the local broadcast territories and associated blackouts violated federal antitrust laws. If you purchased NHL GameCenter LIVE or NHL Center Ice from Comcast or DIRECTV between March 12, 2008 and June 10, 2015, your legal rights are affected whether you act or do not act. Please read this notice carefully.
• The lawsuit alleges that the territorial allocation of broadcast rights within the NHL assigned to each of its member clubs and thereafter sold to regional sporting networks violated federal antitrust laws, provides out of market consumers with fewer choices, and inflates prices charged to view broadcasts of live professional hockey games. Defendants dispute Plaintiffs' factual and legal claims and deny any wrongdoing and liability, as well as any adverse effect on consumer choices and that prices charged have been inflated. The parties have concluded that it is in their best interests to settle the litigation to avoid the expense, inconvenience, and uncertainty of litigation.
• In May 2015, the Court granted in part and denied in part Plaintiffs' motion for class certification. The court held that the individuals who filed this suit could represent a class for the purposes of seeking injunctive relief, but not damages.
• Under the Settlement and subject to the NHL's continued delineation of its clubs' local broadcast territorial rights, and associated blackout practices, the NHL has agreed to provide seasonal packages of single team's out-of-market games through NHL GameCenter LIVE for each and every NHL Club (e.g., a stream of just the Chicago Blackhawks' out-of-market games). These individual team bundles will be priced at 20% below the cost of the full GameCenter LIVE package. The NHL has also agreed to make this option available to Comcast and DIRECTV so that they may offer unbundled seasonal packages of single team games for each and every NHL Club available through NHL Center Ice, although Comcast and DIRECTV are not obligated to offer such packages.
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• The Court in charge of this case still needs to decide whether or not to approve the Settlement. If the Court approves the Settlement, and after any appeals are resolved, the benefits will be provided automatically to class members
Flyers signed s new backup goalie
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Pierre LeBrun ✔ @Real_ESPNLeBrun
Flyers have signed goalie Michal Neuvirth to two-year deal, $1.5 M in Year 1 and $1.75 million in Year 2
if you want to brighten your day google nhl draft grades and check out the flyers....it will give you a funny feeling in your bathing suit area
MDZ signed 2 yrs / $7.75 million (http://prohockeytalk.nbcsports.com/2015/07/16/flyers-re-sign-del-zotto-reportedly-for-two-years-7-75m/)
Not a bad deal for either side. The next two years are water treading anyway.
couturier six years avg 4.3 per
im guessing they think he will score more cause otherwise seems a little high and long for a defensive forward albeit a very good one
When the cap explodes in a couple of years that deal will look modest.
#Hexymagic
nhl cap isnt exploding....you are thinking of the nba
The cap will steadily increase for the duration of the deal. Then Bettman and the owners will lock the players out in the name of "cost certainty" and reset the cap. Again. Wash. Repeat.
(http://media.tumblr.com/a3af3bc5c9dd309349e117698f92f541/tumblr_inline_mrq1mqNvsJ1qz4rgp.gif)
the cap goes up every year in every sport...but in the nhl its baby steps...and actually its the one sport where it doesnt automatically go up...point is when talking about the nhl cap exploding romey was thinking of the nba cap which is going into deep outerspace over the next couple of years
It's going to be $80M in '17-'18.
It's going up at 5% per year. That's an explosion in NHL terms.
Argue.
so basically its a good deal.
best ever!
Voracek signed: 8 years, $66M, $8.25 per year average (http://flyers.nhl.com/club/news.htm?id=776043)
Whoa
that seems like a regrettable contract
That's basically a max deal, right?
Jesus... Hexy's got a brass pair on him, I'll give him that.
definitely a risk because he's only had one year that comes close to justify a deal like this....at the same time he was a top ten forward in the nhl last year and is entering the prime of his career so none of the years of this deal will fall during a time when you'd expect him to be done or terrible aka lecavalier or pronger
Or Richards or Carter or Giroux...
giroux and jakes are identical deals cept I think girouxs will end when he's 34 vs 33 for jake....of course their deals were signed under the new cba not the old one that gave out ludicrously long contracts otherwise they would be on par with carter richards
I just hope Giroux & Voracek are truly the players you want as cornerstones for the franchise. I'm not sure they are, actually. Like anything else Philly sports-related, I'm prepared to be disappointed.
lol...pretty much where i stand...they had to sign them...its worth the risk to get two first line players entering their prime....but i fully expect neither to live up to the price tags
Giroux has shown flashes but giving him the C was a big mistake. Too late now, though.
corey pronman just came out with his 100 top prospects....i dont really get how konecny is ahead of provorov or for that matter sanheim and i also dont know how lindblom even made it at all but seeing the ghost and morin as honorable mentions i think shows the depth the flyers have in their system for the first time in forever...in fact he ranked their overall system number 10 in the nhl
18. Travis Konecny, C, Philadelphia Flyers
Age: 18 | Ht: 5-10 | Wt: 176 | 2014-15 team: Ottawa (OHL)
Previous ranking: Not eligible
Konecny is a dynamic forward prospect who plays with a high level of energy as well. The former No. 1 overall OHL draft selection is a top-end skater and puck-handler who can make creative plays at a fast pace. Konecny's frame is not ideal, but he wins battles despite his size and has a lot of skill. His production this year with Ottawa doesn't scream "big-time prospect," but this is more a scouting call on my part. I've seen Konecny a lot the last two years, and at least heading into the 2015-16 season, I'm buying on his big-time upside.
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31. Ivan Provorov, D, Philadelphia Flyers
Age: 18 | Ht: 6-0 | Wt: 201 | 2014-15 team: Brandon (WHL)
Previous ranking: Not eligible
Provorov had an outstanding rookie season in the WHL, being among the most dangerous offensive defensemen in the league while also logging tough defensive minutes. He's a very skilled, highly mobile defenseman who plays the body and displays a significant level of hockey IQ at both ends of the rink. I think his value at the end of the day will be more offense-tilted and his upside defensively is a 2nd second-PK-unit type of guy, but his overall package points toward him being a legit top-end prospect. Provorov has been in North America for several seasons and is much acclimated to the style of play, potentially leading to a 1-2 one- to two-year wait before he's in the NHL.
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46. Oskar Lindblom, LW, Philadelphia Flyers
Age: 18 | Ht: 6-1 | Wt: 192 | 2014-15 team: Brynas (SHL)
Previous ranking: Not ranked
There are a lot of good things you can say about Lindblom's game: (1) He's a good physical player who gets to the net and wins battles; (2) he has good vision as a playmaker and has a pretty good shot as a finisher; and (3) he defends well and has produced at high levels internationally and versus men. The only real flaw in Lindblom's game is that his speed isn't great. Lindblom was a mid-round pick last year, but after a strong 2014-15, has certainly opened some eyes.
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68. Travis Sanheim, D, Philadelphia Flyers
Age: 19 | Ht: 6-4 | Wt: 198 | 2014-15 team: Calgary (WHL)
Previous ranking: 100
Six-foot-three defensemen who skate and handle the puck well don't grow on trees -- or at least any trees that I'm aware of at the moment -- and Philly has one of those defensemen in Travis Sanheim. He's a fantastic offensive defensemen, with great footwork and puck-moving poise, that produced a point per game in the WHL this season. He does need to continue to bulk up and tighten up his defensive play in terms of his decision-making and gaps. Sanheim was a first-team All-Star in the WHL East.
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Honorable mentions:
Shayne Gostisbehere, D, Philadelphia Flyers
Robert Hagg, D, Philadelphia Flyers
Samuel Morin, D, Philadelphia Flyers
It's ESPN, dude. They don't even pretend to cover hockey anymore.
its their website not their network and pronmen is regarded as one of the best in the biz when it comes to prospects
He had them ranked 25th last year and based on just this draft alone he raised them 15 spots.
Also - you questioned his rankings then defended his ability as an analyst when I agreed with you. You realize that, right?
i didnt question them....im in no position to do that...i have never seen a single one of them play...but from what ive read and by the simple fact of their draft position it suprised me...its me not understanding not me questioning him
game 6 of the scf finished behind the vikings/steelers preseason game in the ratings
espn doesnt care about hockey because its not all that popular in this country. for the life of me, i dont get why hockey fans cant just accept that.
liked what i saw of just about every flyer youngin in the game last night...especially kocecny and sanheim...hard to tell upside with really young guys but i have yet to see any of them play like they are going to be a bust or flop
Provorov, Sanheim, and Kocecny all sent down to juniors today.
i would have liked to see Kocecny get more a chance, he definitely didn't look overmatched out there
i want them all on the team right now but i fully trust hextall
flyers are putting MacDonald on waivers at noon today
over under on number of claimants
0.0
seems high
i wonder if Hextall is going to make homer be the one to actually click the button on the computer just for a little humiliation
I don't get why ghost isn't on the team
I think streit is gonna get dealt and thats maybe when he comes up
Bought tickets for the opener against the Panthers. Should be at least as much fun as the Eagles-taterskins game. :yay
sounds like gagner is going to be scratched thurs
as usual flyers lost in extra time but at least this year it will be in OT and not a shoutout
I was able to see it and they somehow looked decent against a Stanley cup favorite
That three on three is ridiculous. Still better than the shootout, though.
I love the three on three
what I despise is still getting rewarded for losing a game