My lord.
This is going to end up being wrong isn't it?
I may need to fight someone. I hope hope hope I'm wrong here
Why? Because they're the farging Eagles, that's why.
NFLN just compared him to Brandon Graham.
Quote from: General_Failure on April 27, 2017, 09:55:24 PM
NFLN just compared him to Brandon Graham.
So in 6 years he'll be pretty good?
There were way too many players to fall to still take Barnett
Quote from: General_Failure on April 27, 2017, 09:55:24 PM
NFLN just compared him to Brandon Graham.
Not Reggie White?
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on April 27, 2017, 09:54:21 PM
I may need to fight someone. I hope hope hope I'm wrong here
thought you said you did no draft prep
In Doug Howie Lurie we trust...
farg it. I'm out.
i said before the draft the only way to farg this draft up was for unexpected players to drop and they dont take one
well they found a way to farg it up
Quote from: MDS on April 27, 2017, 09:57:45 PM
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on April 27, 2017, 09:54:21 PM
I may need to fight someone. I hope hope hope I'm wrong here
thought you said you did no draft prep
I didn't read any mocks
But I watch CFB religiously - you know this.
I'm warming up to this a little more. I said the other day I wouldn't mind him. Had my heart set on Davis or Williams. And then Allen fell.
Buddy texted me and said Allen's shoulder is really bad.
howie didn't have this scenario in his spreadsheets so he took the guy they decided on a month ago
Quote from: ice grillin you on April 27, 2017, 09:59:59 PM
i said before the draft the only way to farg this draft up was for unexpected players to drop and they dont take one
well they found a way to farg it up
rashad barksdale fell and look how he turned out
Watch who the Ravens pick. That's who the Eagles SHOULD have picked.
Don't have enough time to devote to studying the draft anymore. Or for watching a ton of college football for that matter, so I can't pretend I know whether this was a good or bad pick.
Seems Barnett was the one I kept hearing tied to the Eagles in recent days, so they got their man. With the Eagles' recent track record, I'm a bit doubtful. Ah well, hope it works out for them.
He looked really thrilled to be picked. Kind of like his wife just told him they were going to IKEA.
Quote from: Rome on April 27, 2017, 10:03:38 PM
Watch who the Ravens pick. That's who the Eagles SHOULD have picked.
lol...precisely
Quote from: Beermonkey on April 27, 2017, 10:05:12 PM
He looked really thrilled to be picked. Kind of like his wife just told him they were going to IKEA.
i said this to my boy who i am watching it with....he seemed miserable
Remember a few years ago when the Eagles needed a safety, but instead of trading up a few picks for Ha Ha they stayed put and took Marcus Smith? I feel like the same thing just happened. Lattimore was there for the taking but they statyed put and took Barnett.
1. hes only 20
2. this was a significant position of need
3. maybe hes good?
Quote from: SD on April 27, 2017, 10:07:00 PM
Remember a few years ago when the Eagles needed a safety, but instead of trading up a few picks for Ha Ha they stayed put and took Marcus Smith? I feel like the same thing just happened. Lattimore was there for the taking but they statyed put and took Barnett.
said the same thing...once lattimore dropped go up and get him
Ozzie takes Humphrey.
Over/under on Pro Bowls? 8??
Marlon Humphrey being first Bama player picked is hilarious
Quote from: ice grillin you on April 27, 2017, 10:09:02 PM
Quote from: SD on April 27, 2017, 10:07:00 PM
Remember a few years ago when the Eagles needed a safety, but instead of trading up a few picks for Ha Ha they stayed put and took Marcus Smith? I feel like the same thing just happened. Lattimore was there for the taking but they statyed put and took Barnett.
said the same thing...once lattimore dropped go up and get him
the price to go up and get him was a 1
you ok with that
Quote from: Rome on April 27, 2017, 10:10:12 PM
Ozzie takes Humphrey.
actually surprised the hell out of me...i thought the eagles might take him and it made me sick
Humphrey is a walking illegal contact penalty in NFL.
Allen must've murdered a child.
Barnett is fine. He's not a disaster as a player at all ... just you had a chance to >>> that.
Quote from: MDS on April 27, 2017, 10:10:45 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on April 27, 2017, 10:09:02 PM
Quote from: SD on April 27, 2017, 10:07:00 PM
Remember a few years ago when the Eagles needed a safety, but instead of trading up a few picks for Ha Ha they stayed put and took Marcus Smith? I feel like the same thing just happened. Lattimore was there for the taking but they statyed put and took Barnett.
said the same thing...once lattimore dropped go up and get him
the price to go up and get him was a 1
lol...what?
14 to 11 at most is a 2nd and probably more like a 3rd
All Humphrey has to learn is to track the ball better. That can be taught. Barnett has no ceiling because he's so goddamn mediocre he's already hit it. IN HIGH SCHOOL.
farg THIS TEAM.
Friend of mine whose father coached in college texted me and said that "Allen's shoulders are cooked. Huge red flag"
Quote from: ice grillin you on April 27, 2017, 10:15:16 PM
Quote from: MDS on April 27, 2017, 10:10:45 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on April 27, 2017, 10:09:02 PM
Quote from: SD on April 27, 2017, 10:07:00 PM
Remember a few years ago when the Eagles needed a safety, but instead of trading up a few picks for Ha Ha they stayed put and took Marcus Smith? I feel like the same thing just happened. Lattimore was there for the taking but they statyed put and took Barnett.
said the same thing...once lattimore dropped go up and get him
the price to go up and get him was a 1
lol...what?
14 to 11 at most is a 2nd and probably more like a 3rd
is that enough to entice the saints not to take him? if you want to jump the saints you had to beat the teams searching for a qb
im not sure if a logical trade was there
The racists get Allen.
Time for a point and laugh at the corksucking Eagles thread.
always remember no matter how bad that franchise is they have 3 and the eagles have zero
howie talking up barnett's character
sounds good
but joe mixon is on their board
howie said he was bpa on their board, which joe d put together
do you believe this
everyone going crazy about who is still on the board....if the eagles didnt take barnett he wouldnt be mentioned as one of them
since all the neanderthals hate this even though they have no idea who any of these guys are, im gonna go the other way
welcome reggie white jr
Quote from: MDS on April 27, 2017, 10:17:49 PM
is that enough to entice the saints not to take him? if you want to jump the saints you had to beat the teams searching for a qb
im not sure if a logical trade was there
You're telling me the Bengals at 9 don't take 14, the Eagles 3rd, and the Eagles 4th (which they have two of)?
The more tape I watch and analysis I read the more I get the sense Barnett's a hybrid of Brandon Graham and Marcus Smith. Wonder who Joe Douglas wanted.
Hybrid you say? Rusty probably loves his Prius ass
Why do you think Douglas didn't set the board?
Quote from: SD on April 27, 2017, 11:01:55 PM
The more tape I watch and analysis I read the more I get the sense Barnett's a hybrid of Brandon Graham and Marcus Smith. Wonder who Joe Douglas wanted.
lol
to be fair tho andy took brandon graham and chip took marcus smith
Here's a fact. Nobody knows a thing at the moment. Not sticking up for them, but that is a fact. All of this talk is just talk. It's all bullshtein until it's not. And it won't be not for awhile. I miss caring deeply, to be honest.
They trade up for Lattimore it opens them up tomorrow to take BPA. Now they're forced to take a CB because their depth chart right now is Jalen Mills, Patrick Robinson, Ron Brooks, Aaron Grymes and CJ Smith. Howie somehow managed to take the worst CB tandem in the league last season and make it worse.
I don't know shtein about the draft. I just need someone to tell me if I should continue being miserable about the Eagles.
Thanks in advance.
http://www.philly.com/philly/sports/eagles/20170428_New_Eagle_Derek_Barnett_has_the_pedigree_and_is__tough_as_nails____Jeff_McLane_2017_NFL_Draft.html?mobi=true
tough as NAILS.....GRIT!
Lunch pail and time clock punching baby
HIGH MOTOR!
GRINDIN!
Quote from: hbionic on April 27, 2017, 11:48:41 PM
I don't know shtein about the draft. I just need someone to tell me if I should continue being miserable about the Eagles.
Thanks in advance.
The answer is always yes.
Quote from: hbionic on April 27, 2017, 11:48:41 PM
someone to tell me if I should continue being miserable about the Eagles.
what do you think?
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C-dxQlaXcAAYbzA.jpg)
I think even with that watch, Pederson still doesn't know what time it is.
He's just trying to figure out how much longer he's gotta put up with this shtein.
QuoteNFL Comparison Nick Perry
Who?
Four pages of this bitching and moaning, now I think the Eagles should cut the bum. Idiots.
Solid pick. I look forward to watching him play.
Quote from: ice grillin you on April 28, 2017, 12:46:27 AM
what do you think?
Curly, Moe, and Shemp
Howie was interviewed on CSN last night, he was not remotely prepared for all the players that fell. He admitted as much. He had that deer in the headlights look. Obvious they were set on Barnett and once better choices fell they weren't prepared enough to chose someone else.
Quote from: Diomedes on April 28, 2017, 06:26:15 AM
Solid pick. I look forward to watching him play.
Likewise. This, with the Long and Jerrigan additions, will improve the good pass rush by quite a bit.
So the eagles needed a de and then went and drafted a de? I for one am farging pissed.
Quote"We were real excited to get Derek," Roseman said. "He was the highest-rated guy on our board. He fits our scheme. He fits the culture we're trying to build. We think we got a tremendous player and a tremendous person."
I feel like beating the shtein out of something after reading that.
Quote from: Rome on April 28, 2017, 08:11:24 AM
Quote"We were real excited to get Derek," Roseman said. "He was the highest-rated guy on our board. He fits our scheme. He fits the culture we're trying to build. We think we got a tremendous player and a tremendous person."
I feel like beating the shtein out of something after reading that.
theres no farging way he was the best player on their board with what fell....and if he was you need people who make better boards
Quote from: SD on April 28, 2017, 06:34:00 AM
Howie was interviewed on CSN last night, he was not remotely prepared for all the players that fell. He admitted as much.
i wanna see this....not that i dont believe you but i think im at the point where i enjoy self pain
Quote from: General_Failure on April 28, 2017, 01:43:31 AM
He's just trying to figure out how much longer he's gotta put up with this shtein.
About eight months.
Quote from: ice grillin you on April 28, 2017, 08:26:43 AM
Quote from: SD on April 28, 2017, 06:34:00 AM
Howie was interviewed on CSN last night, he was not remotely prepared for all the players that fell. He admitted as much.
i wanna see this....not that i dont believe you but i think im at the point where i enjoy self pain
Go to 2:10
http://www.csnphilly.com/video/exclusive-interview-reuben-frank-and-howie-roseman-talk-derek-barnett
Quote from: SD on April 27, 2017, 10:32:08 PM
Quote from: MDS on April 27, 2017, 10:17:49 PM
is that enough to entice the saints not to take him? if you want to jump the saints you had to beat the teams searching for a qb
im not sure if a logical trade was there
You're telling me the Bengals at 9 don't take 14, the Eagles 3rd, and the Eagles 4th (which they have two of)?
For posterity since this will always be a thing if it turns out that Barnett sucks and Latimore is good:
QuoteBengals might have traded, if anyone had called
Posted by Darin Gantt on April 28, 2017, 9:27 AM
There were deals made in the Bengals' neighborhood, with two of the next three picks traded to teams eager to move up for a quarterback.
But Cincinnati coach Marvin Lewis might have felt a little lonely, since no one called to ask about moving to the ninth overall.
"Nobody was interested when we were on the clock," Lewis said, via Paul Dehner Jr. of the Cincinnati Enquirer.
Kansas City and Houston traded into the 10th and 12th spots, respectively, for Patrick Mahomes and Deshaun Watson. But because the Chiefs and Texans were including the 27th and 25th picks as part of their packages (both included next year's one, and the Chiefs threw in this year's third), it's not certain the Bengals would have been interested anyway.
Lewis said they were so intrigued by the big-play potential of wide receiver John Ross that they didn't want to risk moving too far down the order anyway.
"There are wow plays," Lewis said. "When you watch tape you feel the guy. But we felt good about the nine guys we had up there. I made the comment to [owner] Mike [Brown] on Monday morning that where we ended up settling up there when you watch those guys play on tape you felt them.
"Sometimes when you watch guys on tape you get bored and those guys fall down further a little bit in my mind. The way it shook out for us, the nine guys that we thought fit us best when you watched them play you really felt them."
While there were defensive players they could have taken a little later (bypassing their annual first-round cornerback in Marshon Lattimore), the Bengals didn't want to drop past the mid-teens, and no one called anyway.
They probably would have taken a 3rd. Eagles could have had Lattimore. Today they could have traded their 2nd and 4th to move up for Cook. Imagine coming away from this draft with Lattimore and Cook?
you're that down on Barnett ?
Douglas said quite clearly that he had the DB depth in this draft as very deep. I don't think there was any way they were going to sacrifice additional picks to go up and get any CB.
Quote from: smeags on April 28, 2017, 11:00:46 AM
you're that down on Barnett ?
I have no idea how Barnett pans out. I do know there were better players available at the time and their biggest need is CB and the best one in the draft was within striking distance.
Drafting for need sometimes will kill you. You know that.
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on April 28, 2017, 11:16:28 AM
Drafting for need sometimes will kill you. You know that.
yeah like taking Barnett because he is a DE
Quote from: SD on April 28, 2017, 10:58:25 AM
They probably would have taken a 3rd. Eagles could have had Lattimore. Today they could have traded their 2nd and 4th to move up for Cook. Imagine coming away from this draft with Lattimore and Cook?
alright fantasy football gm...lets calm down
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on April 28, 2017, 11:16:28 AM
Drafting for need sometimes will kill you. You know that.
Lattimore was the consensus best CB in the draft. That's hardly drafting for need.
Quote from: MDS on April 28, 2017, 11:31:32 AM
Quote from: SD on April 28, 2017, 10:58:25 AM
They probably would have taken a 3rd. Eagles could have had Lattimore. Today they could have traded their 2nd and 4th to move up for Cook. Imagine coming away from this draft with Lattimore and Cook?
alright fantasy football gm...lets calm down
Know what's funny, Eagles fans are usually spot on with their criticism of draft picks.
Quote from: ice grillin you on April 28, 2017, 11:26:58 AM
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on April 28, 2017, 11:16:28 AM
Drafting for need sometimes will kill you. You know that.
yeah like taking Barnett because he is a DE
So that's only why they took him? Not because he's good? Or you just can't fathom he was the top guy on their board?
im not saying barnett is going to be a stud...i have no earthly idea how good or bad he'll be...but these trades are sports radio caller levels of silly.
not to mention they need players! they need picks! even chip kelly hit on jordan hicks. the more lotto tickets you have, the better chance you'll have of finding talent.
Quote from: SD on April 28, 2017, 11:38:06 AM
Quote from: MDS on April 28, 2017, 11:31:32 AM
Quote from: SD on April 28, 2017, 10:58:25 AM
They probably would have taken a 3rd. Eagles could have had Lattimore. Today they could have traded their 2nd and 4th to move up for Cook. Imagine coming away from this draft with Lattimore and Cook?
alright fantasy football gm...lets calm down
Know what's funny, Eagles fans are usually spot on with their criticism of draft picks.
also as you mentioned no one is specifically killing Barnett and saying bust or something ridiculous like that
just that there was probably five better options at the time
it was a terrible pick with what was there barnett himself is not necessarily terrible
Barnett is not Marcus Smith or Danny Watkins.
He's not a "reach". The issue is his ceiling compared to others who were still on the board. Someone like allen or Howard or lattimore could be top 5 and their position in 4 years. Not sure that's true for Barnett
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on April 28, 2017, 11:42:56 AM
Quote from: ice grillin you on April 28, 2017, 11:26:58 AM
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on April 28, 2017, 11:16:28 AM
Drafting for need sometimes will kill you. You know that.
yeah like taking Barnett because he is a DE
So that's only why they took him? Not because he's good? Or you just can't fathom he was the top guy on their board?
you are the one who just said go best available because need pucks can kill you...I'm just pointing out the hypocrisy in that Barnett at that spot with who was available was a 100% need pick
you're playing both sides of the fence
ill wait to see how the rest of the draft pans out, but Barnett isn't really a reach IMO.
They have Graham/Curry/Long at DE. Sure that position could use an upgrade, but they already have a ton of money picks (Smith was a 1st, Graham a 1st, Curry a 2nd) tied up on the D line. Barnett was maybe the 3rd or 4th best DE in the draft.
Meanwhile their CB depth is beyond laughable and the best CB was there for the taking.
curry stinks and obviously so does marcus smith. chris long give me a break.
their roster was devoid of talent at pass rushers, rb and corner. you trade up for lattimore you hurt yourself looking for a de or rb in 2nd, 3rd, 4th, etc.
if youre one of those people that thinks the eagles are gonna screw it up anyway, so give up the picks to get the sure thing, i get that. but in their situation, they need players.
people kept saying how deep this draft was at CB and that there was no need to worry getting one in the 1st. I certainly know that nobody should feel ok with the DE's they had on the roster minus graham.
Idk if it was already mentioned but fwiw, ray diddy had the eagles taking Barnett.
Quote from: smeags on April 28, 2017, 12:22:13 PM
people kept saying how deep this draft was at CB and that there was no need to worry getting one in the 1st. I certainly know that nobody should feel ok with the DE's they had on the roster minus graham.
Idk if it was already mentioned but fwiw, ray diddy had the eagles taking Barnett.
yep...de was a major need. heck, graham isn't even all that great....what did he have...5.5 sacks last year? they'll wind up drafting at least 2 cb's...if lattimore fell to 14, sure. but i'm glad they didn't give up picks to move up for him & his chronic hammy issues.
DE is adequate. Graham is a legit NFL starter. They idiotically signed Curry to that monster deal so there's no choice but to ride him out. And Chris Long is great depth.
Meanwhile at CB you have a 2nd year 7th round pick, Patrick Robinson, perhaps the worst CB in the league, and a bunch of UDFAs who are basically practice squad fodder.
Bottom line is Barnett was always projected to go in the 15-20 range, whereas Lattimore was projected to go in the top 5-10. I don't see parting with a 3rd as a huge deal especially when you have two 4ths.
I agree with you but you are focusing too much on lattimire that would have taken a trade and not on the other players they could have taken at 14 that would have been much better than Barnett
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C-hqrMPXgAEtwiL.jpg)
farging embarrassment
Can't believe they didn't give up number 14 this year and number 165 next year and 120 this year and 19 in 2019 for that one guy i like.
Quote from: ice grillin you on April 28, 2017, 04:27:36 PM
farging embarrassment
I know right. Brown shoes with black pants?
WHO DOES THAT???
https://twitter.com/Tim_McManus/status/858055157262798848
Quote from: ice grillin you on April 28, 2017, 04:27:36 PM
farging embarrassment
At least Lurie didn't call him, then pass him around the room to everyone
Quote from: Diomedes on April 28, 2017, 04:54:54 PM
https://twitter.com/Tim_McManus/status/858055157262798848
Holy shtein that is fantastic.
So, wait, don't slit my wrists over Barnett? Make up your minds guys.
Quote from: Rome on April 28, 2017, 05:13:47 PM
Quote from: Diomedes on April 28, 2017, 04:54:54 PM
https://twitter.com/Tim_McManus/status/858055157262798848
Holy shtein that is fantastic.
it doesnt take much does it
:-D
Quote from: ice grillin you on April 28, 2017, 04:27:36 PM
farging embarrassment
What's embarrassing about that photo?
Ok fine yes we know this
But I want you to explain what's embarrassing about that. Let your feelings flow
I think its funny and shows he has a sense of humor. Most athletes act as serious as rappers do.
#ilikeitalot
Quote from: Rome on April 28, 2017, 04:35:59 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on April 28, 2017, 04:27:36 PM
farging embarrassment
I know right. Brown shoes with black pants?
WHO DOES THAT???
Those pants are navy, bro
no wonder they drafted this guy for need
QuoteBrandon Graham set to hold out for new contract, per sources.
Graham farging STOLE money for six years and now he wants more?
I would cut his ass in a New York minute.
Bye Bye Bitch.
howie brought all this on himself with that ridiculous vinny curry contract
I have trouble believing he'd hold out. The Eagles paid him a ton of money in his tenure, way more than he was ever worth, in fact.
Even a moronic pro athlete has to recognize that, right?
Yeah. Probably not.
sources = the onion ??
mcclane had it
hes making 500k less than curry this year. graham on average is a top 25 paid DE, curry is top 15. this is all about curry.
rosey magic !
There might not be a player on the whole team who loves the Eagles more than Graham, he is a stupidly rah rah guy all the time. As well he should be, since most teams would have given up on him long before he grew into his role. I have to believe it's all about that terrible Curry contract.
McLane and his sources vs everyone else and their who are saying nothing happening
Fake news
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on May 10, 2017, 05:23:32 PM
McLane and his sources vs everyone else and their who are saying nothing happening
mclane got it direct from the agent who might not have even told graham
That farging Brian Williams!
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C_9z_HVV0AE2CjP.jpg)
Thanks for the scoop, McLane.
nm
fake news hurts everyone
That's awesome that Graham texts QB Eagles
He thinks he's texting Wentz.
Quote from: QB Eagles on May 16, 2017, 03:19:14 PM
Thanks for the scoop, McLane.
This is what he does best.
Schefter reporting Barnett signed
So....this guy has been pretty decent so far
And more importantly he's getting better, I think 4.5 sacks in his last 5 games. Last night's strip sack was a great effort.
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on April 27, 2017, 09:53:39 PM
My lord.
This is going to end up being wrong isn't it?
my lord
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on April 27, 2017, 09:54:21 PM
I may need to fight someone. I hope hope hope I'm wrong here
fight
Quote from: AO1 on April 27, 2017, 09:56:37 PM
There were way too many players to fall to still take Barnett
so much talent
Quote from: ice grillin you on April 27, 2017, 09:59:59 PM
i said before the draft the only way to farg this draft up was for unexpected players to drop and they dont take one
well they found a way to farg it up
done farged it up
Quote from: Rome on April 27, 2017, 10:03:38 PM
Watch who the Ravens pick. That's who the Eagles SHOULD have picked.
marlon humphrey is playing 30% of defensive snaps
Quote from: AO1 on April 27, 2017, 10:07:00 PM
Remember a few years ago when the Eagles needed a safety, but instead of trading up a few picks for Ha Ha they stayed put and took Marcus Smith? I feel like the same thing just happened. Lattimore was there for the taking but they statyed put and took Barnett.
marcus smith junior with 2 different 2 sack games
Quote from: MDS on April 27, 2017, 10:08:00 PM
1. hes only 20
2. this was a significant position of need
3. maybe hes good?
maybe he is
still should have taken jonathan allen
Still should have traded up for Lattimore even though he got hurt yesterday. He has elite cb potential.
Exactly right. I will say this guy has been better than I thought he'd be, but it's not like he's the second coming of Reggie. He's been a good rotational DE.
wrong wrong
Quote from: AO1 on November 20, 2017, 12:13:49 PM
Still should have traded up for Lattimore even though he got hurt yesterday. He has elite cb potential.
he already elite....hes literally been the best corner in the nfl this year and its not that close
could have had jonathan allen on a rookie contract for five years and not paid jernigan who allen will be better than next year
PFF had him listed as #1, actually.
you people are dumb
there is no way you can argue with the moves theyve made
they are strong at dline and cb like theyve really never been before. theyre 9-1 bout to be 10-1. but oh no they have sideny jones and ronald darby NOT marcus lattimore the whole is coming to an end woe is me sad face pout
Quote from: MDS on November 20, 2017, 01:20:31 PM
there is no way you can argue with the moves theyve made
you're new here, welcome to CF.
I guess when the team is 9-1 and playing extremely well in every facet of the game, you complain about shtein that happened 6 months ago.
Barnett has impressed me. Early in he did a few stupid penalties that had me worried but I've seen no evidence of a pattern in that regard and he does keep getting better. He's not just adog either, his run support is solid. It's ridiculous how good and deep the d line is right now.
its more about 2 draft geeks ego's trying to say they werent wrong with their freezing cold takes than anything, but yes
reason #23434 why mock draft culture is the worst thing ever
Quote from: Sgt PSN on November 20, 2017, 01:30:17 PM
I guess when the team is 9-1 and playing extremely well in every facet of the game, you complain about shtein that happened 6 months ago.
Ha. Precisely. Oh and point out who said what just for double douchey effect.
Quote from: MDS on November 20, 2017, 01:35:15 PM
its more about 2 draft geeks ego's trying to say they werent wrong with their freezing cold takes than anything, but yes
reason #23434 why mock draft culture is the worst thing ever
lol...you are a huge VORP guy
but your caught feelings are even huger....jay needs to watch his homer crown...you comin hard
I wanted Allen
But what I said I don't think was out of line. Said I hoped I was wrong on him.
I'm happy with how it shook out though.
there is no comparison between actual data and random projections
in baseball stats you have facts, in drafts you have feel and guesses. what it really boils down to is you love lists and rankings and arbitrary debate more than anything, so 5 months of mock drafts >>> super bowl
Quote from: MDS on November 20, 2017, 01:20:31 PM
you people are dumb
there is no way you can argue with the moves theyve made
they are strong at dline and cb like theyve really never been before. theyre 9-1 bout to be 10-1. but oh no they have sideny jones and ronald darby NOT marcus lattimore the whole is coming to an end woe is me sad face pout
Their pass rush and D line is just as good without him. Now imagine having a shutdown cb with that pass rush.
Barnett so far is exactly what I expected ... he's fine.
He's not going to be a bust. He'll probably be a B+ player on the team for a while but won't be a cornerstone talent. You need those players and he'll be productive.
I still would take Allen (or Howard probably) 100/100 times.
Most sacks through 10 games by an Eagles rookie since Trent Cole.
Quote from: AO1 on November 20, 2017, 01:56:35 PM
Quote from: MDS on November 20, 2017, 01:20:31 PM
you people are dumb
there is no way you can argue with the moves theyve made
they are strong at dline and cb like theyve really never been before. theyre 9-1 bout to be 10-1. but oh no they have sideny jones and ronald darby NOT marcus lattimore the whole is coming to an end woe is me sad face pout
Their pass rush and D line is just as good without him. Now imagine having a shutdown cb with that pass rush.
ok i just imagined having jones and darby on the outside and
Quote from: AO1 on November 20, 2017, 01:56:35 PM
Quote from: MDS on November 20, 2017, 01:20:31 PM
you people are dumb
there is no way you can argue with the moves theyve made
they are strong at dline and cb like theyve really never been before. theyre 9-1 bout to be 10-1. but oh no they have sideny jones and ronald darby NOT marcus lattimore the whole is coming to an end woe is me sad face pout
Their pass rush and D line is just as good without him. Now imagine having a shutdown cb with that pass rush.
exactly....its nothing against barnett...hes good....it just wasnt the right pick at the time
high ceiling is always better than a high floor
it was just obscene how late jonathan allen went in that draft
Quote from: QB Eagles on November 20, 2017, 01:59:07 PM
Most sacks through 10 games by an Eagles rookie since Trent Cole.
He's not even as good as some random 5th rounder the Eagles drafted years ago? Bust.
He's definitely getting better. It's nice to see him progress during his first season and not wait until 5 seasons later like Graham.
Is everyone forgetting McDougle, Mamula, and Jon Harris?
Be happy with Barnett who looks to be a solid piece on D for years to come.
yeah but if the eagles would've just picked somebody, i mean anybody else, they would be 9-1.
Good point.
#fireroseman
Quote from: ice grillin you on November 20, 2017, 02:25:10 PM
it was just obscene how late jonathan allen went in that draft
there were concerns about his health, if i recall. sure enough....
Quote from: smeags on November 20, 2017, 03:07:20 PM
yeah but if the eagles would've just picked somebody, i mean anybody else, they would be 9-1.
posts that are edited should never be this bad
A trade up for Lattimore was the right way to go regardless if Barnett turns out to be a good player.
Suggesting otherwise is just stupid and pigheaded because Lattimore has already proven to be elite. Barnett has proven to be a modestly productive rotational defensive end.
/close sesame.
Had surgery to repair a sports hernia shortly after Super Bowl.
In case you all forgot:
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4e9DJt-zhow
God bless Derek Barnett.
I'm convinced that in the heat of the moment he was going to run the wrong way if he wasn't tackled.
https://youtu.be/cpxsMyoXUZQ?t=44
Barnett's brother was killed by a drunk driver last night.
https://www.tennessean.com/story/news/2018/12/04/philadelphia-eagles-nashville-crash-derek-barnett-brother-david-barnett-killed/2204978002/
Fined for the second week in a row.
https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2019/10/13/derek-barnet-fined-for-unnecessary-roughness/
This is not a guy who plays smart.
Quote from: Diomedes on December 04, 2018, 05:07:18 PM
Barnett's brother was killed by a drunk driver last night.
https://www.tennessean.com/story/news/2018/12/04/philadelphia-eagles-nashville-crash-derek-barnett-brother-david-barnett-killed/2204978002/
Jerome Brown's ghost was probably the drunk driver
https://twitter.com/ZBerm/status/1439754053110616065
I don't know how many off sides or other penalties he's collected over the years, but I can remember/be reminded so far of only three plays he's made that stand as a counterbalance to the bullshtein:
He scooped Brady's fumble in the Super Bowl.
Strip sack v. Vikings NFCCG
TD vs. Raiders on Christmas 2017, clinching 1 seed
I will be happy to see him go at year's end.
i cant ever see his name without thinking how he broke reggie whites tennessee sack record which was repeated approximately one billion times that draft year...only thing ever mentioned more was jerome bettis being from detroit
i wont look it up but hes gotta have under 20 career sacks and 8 farging PF
they also got him and josh sweat for sam bradford
He's only 25, seem so much older. He hasn't really improved in 5 years and he looks tiny out there.
IGY - spot on! 19.5 sacks.
That penalty more or less lost them the game. There's a lot more that went wrong but getting beaten for a sack or a db getting beaten on a good pass is just part of the game. Taking witless penalties that kill your team is the sort of thing that should get you unemployed.
He has an opportunity to show us something with BG out. I can't imagine that he'll take advantage of it. He's not good.
https://twitter.com/PhirstPharaoh/status/1442661990346858499 20
Welcome to our world Nick.
Like I said earlier this week, the guy is 25 years old, in his 5th year in the league and he has not improved one iota.
Ship his ass out. He has more penalty yards than lost yards on his sacks.
farg off Howie
https://twitter.com/AdamSchefter/status/1507086763608662019 20&t=qNy54Pf5t7Mg2dTfOjRt7Q
why
Lol
Inserting finger down throat
I don't have high blood pressure which is a miracle being a Philadelphia sports fan all my life but another year of this clown jumping off sides and committing stupid penalty after stupid penalty will certainly drive me to the emergency room
It's always him.
Howie is such a chump
Well that's disappointing.
Quote from: QB Eagles on March 24, 2022, 05:03:04 PM
why
3 angles
1 - they want a better pash rush this year and are going to load up on edge rushers on the roster, barnett had no market, hes an average talent and they got him on a fair deal
2 - insurance in case they dont draft one in april, if they do he might not even make the 53.
3 - howie saw daniel jeremiah's mock of kyle hamilton falling outside the top 10 and is gonna load up to get him
there's really no angle...he's an DL depth signing...nothing more nothing less
he just happens to be someone the fanbase knows...if he was on the jags the last five years eagle fans would be like eh former number pick recovered game winning fumble in super bowl still young as shtein great place to take a flyer on someone at a position of need
Too bad all that energy is pre snap or after the qb throws the ball
https://twitter.com/bigplay24slay/status/1507137826160353282 20&t=0mzUakNHI8313_bFmu5G2w
Lol
https://twitter.com/DZangaroNBCS/status/1508806786010296339 20&t=4BUi12KpyRZY5vh-e8Fp9A
Can't read that
Did he get arrested or something?
Think it was contract details that have been deleted when they turned out to be false/misleading.
https://twitter.com/DZangaroNBCS/status/1508828539306586120 20&t=mRJiQnLvgWH79xPovIYu3w
Quote from: Diomedes on March 29, 2022, 12:45:25 PM
Can't read that
Did he get arrested or something?
felony theft
It isn't a crime to steal from sports franchise owners.
1yr prove-it deal for $5.5M isn't theft, at least not by Barnett.
league minimum would be theft for him...if he doesnt play this season it would probably be a fair deal
Quote from: QB Eagles on March 29, 2022, 01:12:55 PM
1yr prove-it deal for $5.5M isn't theft, at least not by Barnett.
I'd rather draft a 4th rounder and throw him in the rotation. No hate towards Barnett the fumble recovery is legendary but he had more roughing the passer penalties than sacks last season and I don't have the stats but I'm sure his playing % to offside calls is amongst the tops in the league. He's an above average run stopper. Nobody wanted him for that deal and everyone wants DE's which says a whole lot. He's a net negative as a player.
^^Love It ^^
Don't think any of us were fooled when he came out of Tennessee after breaking Reggie White's sack record, another undersized DE and his undisciplined behavior continued to rear it's ugly head as his career went on. 2017 was an awful draft for the birds.
Yeah, Barnett was not just a net negative but was was demoralizing. I don't see how you'd bring a player back like that at any price.
And lol we got him after a coin toss in 2017. I went back and looked at the story. Vikings were tied with Indy for the 14th and 15th pick, and it came down to a coin toss tie breaker. NFL even had a fancy Vikings/Colts coin made for the occasion. But Factory Howie traded Sammy Sleeves for the Vikes pick and "won" it, taking Barnett. Eagles didn't have a 1st round pick because of Wentz the year before. Now we got the Colts 1st from the Wentz trade. I always thought it was cool that the season began with the NFL draft at the Art Museum and the parade ended there. But the season's first victory was Howie's coin toss victory vs the Colts gm.
Torn ACL - donezo
Thanks for one good play and dozens upon dozens of penalties.
Shucks
We'll always have LII and "The Recovery" and, and, and.....I got nothing.
"It's always him" was a classic moment too.
That was priceless!
Yeah the recovery is always number one but the "it's always him" was great bc the head coach verbalized what we said every week
Cut loose today.
Thanks for the SB fumble scoop, and the great nickname for a frustrating player.
It's Always Him has been a pretty unfair moniker, at least in recent times. It's Never Him would be better suited.
Yeah Never Him.
He had maybe a handful of impactful plays. But honestly the scoop in the SB is enough for me.
Have we really been so conditioned to accept mediocrity by this team that a first round bust can be excused because of a few consequential contributions?
In this instance yes.
He's probably about average for a #14 overall.
hes def not a bust...jon harris was a bust. this dude did some things. the idiot penalties and his overall anti social demeanor didnt help him but he was a really well liked guy in the room
THE ROOM