The following Patriots are not going to the White House:
Martellus Bennett
Devin McCourty
LaGarrette Blount
Dont'a Hightower
Chris Long
Alan Branch
Six dudes who, for whatever reason, would rather not. I applaud them.
another white dood (patriots got more than enough of them) need to jump in but even if not chris long being there is huge
James White may also find somewhere else to be.
Is he White enough for you?
Trump gonna grab Gisele by the Hoyda?
Quote from: Diomedes on February 10, 2017, 08:35:32 PM
Is he White enough for you?
blacker than midnight
until he went on jimmy fallon
if the dubs win the nba title id imagine they will outright decline the invite...the cavs might too. they follow lebrons lead and i cant imagine he would go.
or maybe im reading too much into this and its just a lock no nba team save for the utah jazz is going
Quote from: ice grillin you on February 10, 2017, 07:57:36 PM
another white dood (patriots got more than enough of them) need to jump in but even if not chris long being there is huge
When I saw this pop up on social media yesterday or the day before, I got farging goosebumps.
With current contracts, the highest paid WR in the NFL in 2017-2018 is projected to be Tavon Austin. Any player who is franchised will be paid more than Austin based on this past year's salaries.
The only franchise tag buzz I've heard for WRs has been for Alshon Jeffrey and Terrelle Pryor.
These are not the guys I would have picked as the highest paid WRs.
would Chicago really franchise Jeffrey ? I mean assuming they are actually going to trade cutler.
Quote from: smeags on February 22, 2017, 12:46:05 PM
would Chicago really franchise Jeffrey ? I mean assuming they are actually going to trade cutler.
It's a 50/50 proposition. He's not really deserving of that much salary but they have a huge amount of cap room, and the Bears know that talented WRs aren't easy to come by.
http://www.foxsports.com/nfl/story/miami-dolphins-dan-marino-contract-one-day-re-sign-retirement-022217
Weird.
cowboys/cardinals in the hall of fame game....which will be on a thursday
need some schedule teases soon
Quote from: QB Eagles on February 22, 2017, 01:49:08 PM
Quote from: smeags on February 22, 2017, 12:46:05 PM
would Chicago really franchise Jeffrey ? I mean assuming they are actually going to trade cutler.
It's a 50/50 proposition. He's not really deserving of that much salary but they have a huge amount of cap room, and the Bears know that talented WRs aren't easy to come by.
They know they'll turn into the Eagles if they let him go and no one can afford that.
Antonio Brown is a really rich mofo after today.
http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/18783479/pittsburgh-steelers-make-antonio-brown-highest-paid-wr-nfl
he will make less money on that deal than what dodgers will pay mark melancon
the giants but yes
its utterly absurd how little the nfl players make relative to the pro sports industry considering the revenue they generate
It's absurd how much any entertainer makes, and worse that his owner makes more
Owners should make more. I give 0 fargs what an athlete or entertainer makes so long as it's a respectable percentage of overall revenue, which I think they mostly are.
NFL revenue is double the NBA, but the rosters are 4x larger. The % of revenue going to players isn't too different.
Negotiating a better CBA could nudge the numbers a little, and they could change some of the rules and how evenly money is distributed among players, but fundamentally the roster size vs revenue will always dominate.
The English Premier League pays over 70% of its revenue to players, and that league doesn't even have collective bargaining at all. The lack of a salary cap also means zero parity and the same six teams are at the top almost every year, for decades. So it all depends on how you want to set up your sport.
nfl should set a number whatever it would be where if the value of your contract exceeds that number then the whole thing is guaranteed....the problem in the nfl isnt large rosters the problem is that the top half or quarter or whatever you want to say of players who deserve more money dont get it...people like antonio brown shouldnt be punished because theres a thousand bryan bramans in the league
http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/the-vikings-sparkling-glass-stadium-is-killing-birds-at-an-alarming-rate/
I don't understand why they don't have some sort of guaranteed contract system in place to protect players and teams from serious/career ending injuries. The injury thing is primarily why contracts aren't guaranteed, which makes sense in the NFL given the significantly elevated risk of serious injury in comparison to most other sports. But why not just have some sort of injury clause that guarantees a player ALL of the money in his contract, but the team has 5 or 10 or 20 years or whatever to pay any remaining balance off should a player suffer a career ending injury. And that money doesn't count against the cap. Team is making small(er) annual payments and still honoring the contract, player still has a little money coming in on an annual basis for a little bit after his career ends.
Also, maybe hold teams a little more accountable for the contracts that they're signing players to. It's a given when players sign contracts that are bonus heavy up front and salary heavy on the back that those final years are likely to be voided by cutting the player. So why not make the team liable for say 50% of the remaining money owed if they cut a player? But to balance that out, if the player is able to sign a new contract that is equal to the 50% of the previous deal, then the original team can be off the hook. If it's less than 50%, then they still owe the difference. At least this way it would possibly reduce these fake and inflated contracts.
There's gotta be a million different options out there that would make more sense than the system they currently have in place. And that's pretty much the only problem I have with NFL contracts....that they aren't guaranteed.
NFL players could easily get guaranteed contracts. Wouldn't even have to be in the CBA, free agents directly could negotiate for it. Certainly the high end free agents at least would find teams willing to bite. Of course, they would be biting for many millions of dollars less, which is why it's not occurring now.
In the CBA you could work out some system like you suggest that would give teams more flexibility under the cap and drive up the value of guaranteed contracts some. It would still be a lot less than the typical non-guaranteed contract though. Potential money is cheaper than real money.
Another thing to consider is that NFL players already have the shortest careers of the big four sports, and those careers are going to get even shorter when a player has the flexibility to collect his full contract if he gets spooked by CTE after his first concussion. We see a lot of guys retiring in their 20s now even when they know they are leaving big money on the table. I have no problem with athletes making the best decisions for themselves and their families, but more money going to guys who aren't playing will reduce the money going to guys who are currently playing.
Every system is going to have unintended consequences. The owners care primarily about the overall nut, and to a lesser extent about the competitive balance of the league. It's really up to the NFLPA and individual players how they want that negotiated % of compensation to be structured.
Revis will be released
Jairus Byrd too
I don't see an owner or GM agreeing to a guaranteed contract with any player just because the first owner to guarantee a contract is probably going to the least popular among the rest of the owners.
As for a player getting spooked by CTE and trying to collect full contract value by walking away, I'm pretty sure the league already has a tenured system in place that applies to retirement and I'm sure it could be tweaked a bit here and there. Like if you're a rook and get your bell rung and don't want to play any more because you're concerned about long term health, that's fine, but there could be a tiered level pay out based on years in the league. It doesn't have to be a flat rate like I suggested. This way you can hopefully avoid or at least significantly reduce the likelihood of someone signing a nice size rookie contract and then bailing after 1 year, or even signing a fat deal on their first trip to free agency and doing the same with only 3 or 4 years in the league.
Injury plays a role for why careers only last an average of 3-4 years, but the main reason is talent/ability. Legit stud players have their careers cut short due to injury, but most of the typical 3 year washouts were fringe/special teams guys 1 year who got replaced the next and couldn't catch on anywhere else.
Here's one for Dio. A guard on the Chiefs is in medical school. And he's Québécois also.
QuoteKANSAS CITY, Mo. -- Two days after signing a contract extension with the Kansas City Chiefs worth $41 million, guard Laurent Duvernay-Tardif was back in his hometown of Montreal tending to his other passion: medicine.
Duvernay-Tardif was making his rounds visiting geriatric patients at an area hospital Thursday as part of his medical school curriculum at Montreal's McGill University.
"The cutoff is usually 65 and older and we're kind of the specialist in geriatric syndromes: delirium, dementia, really frail people and polypharmacy [the effects of taking multiple medications for differing health problems]," Duvernay-Tardif said in a conference call with reporters who cover the Chiefs. "So we're giving a consult from either emergency or from the wards about patients that have one of those conditions. Our job is to assess them and make recommendations and then to follow them up.''
I'm all for education, but it's apparently been wasted on this Canuck. If he wanted to address old people with dementia and delirium, he need look no further than his pass-addled head coach, or if he's interested in polypharmacy, the coaches farg up son, who has a nice cushy job because dad feels guilty about ignoring him all those years he was busy choking away games that matter.
It's good he's studying these dementia issues since most of his team will have the brains of drooling 95 year-olds by the time they are 50.
By god, Andy's going to have his Canadian lineman with only a passing interest in football one way or another.
Brandon Marshall released
Eric Decker also expected to be cut when he passes his physical
Marshall is a guy I'd gladly take on a 1 or 2 yr deal. Still productive, strong veteran presence, and a solid personality that fans would likely gravitate to and appreciate.
Quote from: Sgt PSN on March 03, 2017, 12:45:36 AM
and a solid personality that fans would likely gravitate to and appreciate.
You're joking about this part right? He's had domestic violence issues, punched a woman in the face at a nightclub, and was suspended for conduct detrimental to the team. He also has borderline personality disorder, meaning he's unstable. Granted he's been a good sport the last two seasons, and he is still a very good WR, but he comes with plenty of baggage.
He can still contribute to a team like the Eagles where the WRs are garbage, but he fell off bigtime last season. Some of that was the Jets QB situation, but part of it was Marshall losing a step or two.
A geriatric Brandon Marshall is better than anyone on the Eagles. Baggage or not - he'd be a no brainer if the money was right.
Loved him coming out of college and I'd take him here
culture smulture. sign the mofo.
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on March 03, 2017, 11:31:12 AM
Loved him coming out of college and I'd take him here
I loved him more. Hands off, bitch.
Quote from: SD on March 03, 2017, 10:34:32 AM
Quote from: Sgt PSN on March 03, 2017, 12:45:36 AM
and a solid personality that fans would likely gravitate to and appreciate.
You're joking about this part right? He's had domestic violence issues, punched a woman in the face at a nightclub, and was suspended for conduct detrimental to the team. He also has borderline personality disorder, meaning he's unstable. Granted he's been a good sport the last two seasons, and he is still a very good WR, but he comes with plenty of baggage.
i dont want the guy just cause hes old and belongs on a team that is on the cusp of a title and he might put them over the top not a rebuilding team years away...but he hasnt had an off the field incident in like 6 or 7 years i think...one he was diagnosed with his problem and put on proper medicine and therapy he has overcome his demons has done a complete 180...thats the kind of guy id want on my team
I'd like a guy who can catch the ball when it's thrown in his direction and preferably one who can still run a bit. He can do both. GET.
hes 33...he might be done now who knows...but he will be on sunday countdown before the eagles are even sniffing a superbowl
he needs to go to seattle dallas or green bay
Quote from: ice grillin you on March 03, 2017, 12:40:32 PM
Quote from: SD on March 03, 2017, 10:34:32 AM
Quote from: Sgt PSN on March 03, 2017, 12:45:36 AM
and a solid personality that fans would likely gravitate to and appreciate.
You're joking about this part right? He's had domestic violence issues, punched a woman in the face at a nightclub, and was suspended for conduct detrimental to the team. He also has borderline personality disorder, meaning he's unstable. Granted he's been a good sport the last two seasons, and he is still a very good WR, but he comes with plenty of baggage.
i dont want the guy just cause hes old and belongs on a team that is on the cusp of a title and he might put them over the top not a rebuilding team years away...but he hasnt had an off the field incident in like 6 or 7 years i think...one he was diagnosed with his problem and put on proper medicine and therapy he has overcome his demons has done a complete 180...thats the kind of guy id want on my team
Yeah, I don't think he's had any issues since Denver, or maybe early on in Chicago. I just know that since he started getting help for his mental issues he's been a top notch person to go along with his playing ability.
Obviously it would be more than ideal from his perspective to go to a team that's going to compete for a chip, so I don't know that the Eagles would be an attractive option for him. But if younger players like Cooks or Alshon end up elsewhere, he'd still be a solid option to fall back on. I wasn't advocating for him to be a top priority for the Eagles, but he's a player I've liked for quite a while and definitely wouldn't be upset if he ended up in Philly.
Philly is a perfect fit for him. He'd automatically be the number 1 guy and he'd have a young quarterback that is salivating to have a legit receiver to throw to. I know Wentz loves him some Jordan Matthews but come on.
He'd be a great stop gap for them until they can actually draft a guy like him.
you do not want 33 year old brandon marshall as your number 1 guy...i would literally rather have jordan matthwes cause at least theres the hope that he can form some sort of long term chemistry with your young qb....marshall makes no sense on any level
Is there a part of stop gap that you're unclear about?
Cooks, Marshall, Matthews. Two young WRs for Wentz to grow with and one talented headcase veteran WR to teach him about the bullshtein he'll have to deal with in the pros.
Yep.
Quote from: rjs246 on March 03, 2017, 03:27:25 PM
Cooks, Marshall, Matthews. Two young WRs for Wentz to grow with and one talented headcase veteran WR to teach him about the bullshtein he'll have to deal with in the pros.
I like how you edited this to include the extra t in Matthews name
Quote from: Rome on March 03, 2017, 02:57:50 PM
Is there a part of stop gap that you're unclear about?
rebuilding teams dont need stop gaps....especially teams that have no money
Matthews + young/rookie WR + vet WR is fine with me if 1) none of the three are DGB level trash, and 2) vet WR doesn't break the bank.
I would expect WR2 level performance from Marshall but neither WR1 performance nor old broken down piece of crap performance from him would surprise me.
They need veterans to show them how to play the game. Seriously, it's a no brainer. There's no risk in signing him and he makes them better. Of course you'd be against it.
Quote from: SD on March 03, 2017, 03:55:42 PM
Quote from: rjs246 on March 03, 2017, 03:27:25 PM
Cooks, Marshall, Matthews. Two young WRs for Wentz to grow with and one talented headcase veteran WR to teach him about the bullshtein he'll have to deal with in the pros.
I like how you edited this to include the extra t in Matthews name
Eventual attention to detail is my middle name.
That certainly explains the J.
farging Wayne.
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on March 02, 2017, 11:46:31 PM
Brandon Marshall released
The New York Giants and veteran wide receiver Brandon Marshall reportedly reached an agreement Wednesday on a two-year, $12 million contract.
So I guess the Giants are now a Super Bowl contender because that's clearly the only type team he should be signing with.
I thought he might have ended up on the Pats.
I think djax ends up in NE
http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/18853659/san-francisco-49ers-expected-sign-wr-pierre-garcon
Holy shtein.
Quote from: hunt on March 08, 2017, 09:53:59 AM
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on March 02, 2017, 11:46:31 PM
Brandon Marshall released
The New York Giants and veteran wide receiver Brandon Marshall reportedly reached an agreement Wednesday on a two-year, $12 million contract.
Makes sense - he wanted to stay in NYC for the Inside the NFL show
and Garcon making $16M is crazy
How ironic is it that it's not the Racists pulling that stupid shtein for a change?
I actually dont think it's unexpected. The Niners have a ton of cap and no one worth a damn is going there until they get at least respectable.
Still...
And it was widely expected that both Garcon and Pimp would be following the money to somewhere else.
Quote from: QB Eagles on March 08, 2017, 03:05:29 PM
And it was widely expected that both Garcon and Pimp would be following the money to somewhere else.
What's the latest with Pimp?
He's a gang banger.
Just gangbanging, or is he into wife swapping too?
Cuck!
Whew
Stills going back to Miami
The Niners are paying the ex Ravens FB over $6m per season
Ravens will sign Danny Woodhead
JAX signed Calais Campbell to a deal averaging $14m per season
Whoa.
Quote from: Rome on March 08, 2017, 12:28:38 PM
I actually dont think it's unexpected. The Niners have a ton of cap and no one worth a damn is going there until they get at least respectable.
Still...
basically this
this is a "culture" move and garcon is a veteran going there to help establish something. with or without him the niners are going to suck and they have caproom to burn. but yea, still
Pimp is going to Tampa
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on March 09, 2017, 08:46:35 AM
Pimp is going to Tampa
Perfect situation for him. Great young QB, good running game and a good team overall.
I really wanted him back but $$$ talks. I hope he breaks the bank.
Stephon Gilmore to NE
no work getting done today...too many nfl rumors to follow :-D
heard cooks to new england for butler is a possibility, now that they signed gilmore. not much eagles related other than as a possible landing spot for foles :o might actually make sense if they trade or let daniel go.
browns bein' the browns:
Browns acquired Brock Osweiler, a 2018 second-round pick, and a 2017 sixth-round pick from the Texans in exchange for a 2017 fourth-round pick.
sets up romo to houston, btw.
Quote from: hunt on March 09, 2017, 03:45:31 PM
browns bein' the browns:
Browns acquired Brock Osweiler, a 2018 second-round pick, and a 2017 sixth-round pick from the Texans in exchange for a 2017 fourth-round pick.
Tony Romo, Houston Texan?
Quote from: hunt on March 09, 2017, 03:45:31 PM
browns bein' the browns:
Browns acquired Brock Osweiler, a 2018 second-round pick, and a 2017 sixth-round pick from the Texans in exchange for a 2017 fourth-round pick.
Browns #trusttheprocess
unless you care about jimmy haslams money the browns made off like a bandit
Yeah, other than Osweiler's awful contract, giving up a 4th and getting that return isn't bad at all. I don't think Osweiler will amount to shtein, but I guess it's possible that he winds up being decent. If he even just provides them some stability at QB for 2 or 3 years, it's well worth it for them.
They are already trying to flip him so Jimmy Haslam's money might not even be affected.
Although I don't know who else would want him at that price. Salary eating trades on this scale are kinda unheard of in the NFL.
this schefter cam on espn is one of the most preposterous things ive ever seen
Quote from: ice grillin you on March 09, 2017, 04:47:00 PM
this schefter cam on espn is one of the most preposterous things ive ever seen
:-D
The Browns basically bought a 2nd round pick. They could just cut Osweiler and still have made out the better. Maybe they make that crystal clear to him and give the kid a shot. He does okay while they wait for Wentz to mature...oh....I mean Goff....er...
Who is their QB? Osweiler now eh.
LOL.
Are the Eagles truly better than the Browns? I mean, we circle the drain the same, just our orbits take a little longer.
Quote from: ice grillin you on March 09, 2017, 04:47:00 PM
this schefter cam on espn is one of the most preposterous things ive ever seen
What? They had a cam on him checking texts?
Quote from: ice grillin you on March 09, 2017, 04:01:34 PM
unless you care about jimmy haslams money the browns made off like a bandit
Yep good deal for both. Brown's have a ton of money and get picks out of it. Even if they dumped him and carried the dead money.
Ravens bring back Brandon Williams 5/$54m
Kinda like the Bills signing Micah Hyde and Jordan Poyer
cooks to the pats. 1st and a 3rd.
pats now have cooks, edelman, amendola, hogan, mitchell, allen AND gronk to catch balls from i dont know, brady or something. theyll get their 7th.
Boo!
Did the Saints try to resign him? Or did Cooks just want out?
they werent going to pay him and he wanted to be "the man"
im not sure the pats are going to do either but its bb so itll work
First and a third was too rich for the Eagles so whatever.
The word was that the Saints wanted a defensive starter as part of the deal, but they didn't end up getting it.
At this point, the Pats could have shipped the Saints their whole draft and I would still guess they won the trade.
They added the best cb on the market (Gilmore) and still have a ton of money under the cap. It's almost unfair.
brady is making a lot less than he should and they find slop and turn it into gold better than anyone
bb is unreal
Quote from: MDS on March 10, 2017, 07:54:38 PM
im not sure the pats are going to do either but its bb so itll work
The plan seems to be to drag their balls across the faces of the entire AFC and just laugh at whoever limps into the superbowl from the NFC.
Everybody except Eli Manning.
Brady's autistic kryptonite.
the nfl is the absolute worst
http://www.mediaite.com/online/report-nfl-gm-says-70-percent-of-team-execs-genuinely-hate-colin-kaepernick-and-wont-sign-him/
I'm not trying to minimize how disgusting that is, but I can't help but think that if Kap could still ball then there'd at least be several teams lining up to sign him. But the fact is that he hasn't been very good the last few years and couple that with anything that brings bad/controversial PR and most teams are staying away from it. Especially when you consider that the teams that need quarterbacks are typically bad teams that are probably in some sort of rebuild mode....so there's no stability or established culture within that could handle all of the criticism and bad PR that comes with a signing like that.
he had 16 td and 4 int last year on a horrid team in a league that has like ten good qb's
there is literally zero chance hes not on a team right now if the league wasnt filled with ignorant neanderthals
Based on his play alone over the last few years, he'd be on a team, but I don't see many teams signing him to "starter money" and handing him the keys to their franchise. He'd be brought in at moderate salary and would likely have to compete for the starting job. That's what his recent production dictates.
I don't disagree that he's being punished by a bunch of old white heads and should be on someone's roster by now, but it's also not uncommon for teams to avoid mediocre players that bring controversial publicity with them. If he were considered a top notch player, he'd be employed right now regardless of his protests.
Quote from: Sgt PSN on March 19, 2017, 04:08:49 PM
but I don't see many teams signing him to "starter money" and handing him the keys to their franchise.
of course he wouldnt get that but thats so besides the point
He's an idiot for kneeling during the national anthem in a country that has been very good to him. Go protest some other way you self righteous icehole. I'm sure some Muslim country will treat you well. asa lama lakum
this country treats people so well that it allows them to kneel during a stupid meaningless song
Quote from: SD on March 19, 2017, 06:52:37 PM
He's an idiot for kneeling during the national anthem in a country that has been very good to him. Go protest some other way you self righteous icehole. I'm sure some Muslim country will treat you well. asa lama lakum
nice try troll
Quote from: ice grillin you on March 19, 2017, 07:05:16 PM
this country treats people so well that it allows them to kneel during a stupid meaningless song
If it's so bad for him here why doesn't he move to a Muslim country? There they just chop your head off. You can call the song stupid and meaningless, unfortunately for you and your boy Kaep a large majority of this country feels different. Apparently 70% of the NFL does too. This is why Trump is President, people got tired of whiny liberals who are overly PC.
And you can criticize my point of view all you want, but here's Maher droppin some knowledge for you
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y3-uNxmNj5o
I mean, "whiny PC" would be getting in an outrage over a dude silently taking a knee for a minute.
Quote from: SD on March 19, 2017, 08:25:16 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on March 19, 2017, 07:05:16 PM
this country treats people so well that it allows them to kneel during a stupid meaningless song
If it's so bad for him here why doesn't he move to a Muslim country?
for as long as i live i will never understand this argument...what does it even mean?
anyway id rather lose and be a progressive than win and be a racist misogynistic barbarian
resist
kaep >>>>>>>>>>>> trump and goodell
the star spangled banner is a crappy song written by a racist and it shouldnt be sung before a dumb sporting event
Quote from: MDS on March 19, 2017, 08:45:54 PM
the star spangled banner is a crappy song written by a racist and it shouldnt be sung before a dumb sporting event
sing along or move to a muslim country snowflake
fists up next year at the games
Quote from: ice grillin you on March 19, 2017, 08:44:37 PM
Quote from: SD on March 19, 2017, 08:25:16 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on March 19, 2017, 07:05:16 PM
this country treats people so well that it allows them to kneel during a stupid meaningless song
If it's so bad for him here why doesn't he move to a Muslim country?
for as long as i live i will never understand this argument...what does it even mean?
anyway id rather lose and be a progressive than win and be a racist misogynistic barbarian
resist
kaep >>>>>>>>>>>> trump and goodell
He's (after he got a new girlfriend) now a devout Muslim. If it's so bad for him here and Muslims are so oppressed, then farging move. Kneeling when a national anthem is played is a universal sign of disrespect. I know this is hard to believe, but a majority of citizens love and support their country - that's not just an 'American thing'. If I was at a sporting event and America was playing some country that I didn't like or disagreed with and I chose to booo or kneel you wouldn't have a problem with that? Know what would happen? I'd probably get my ass kicked. If it were in a Muslim country they'd just chop my head off.
Quote"Both are proven liars and it almost seems like they're trying to debate who's less racist," he said, The Hill reported. "And at this point, you have to pick the lesser of two evils. But in the end, it's still evil." - Colin Kaepernick
Yes Colin, you farging self centered icehole, that's EXACTLY what they were arguing about, who's less racist.
More from your boy Maher
http://www.philly.com/philly/blogs/real-time/Bill-Maher-Colin-Kaepernick-is-a-f-------idiot-.html
hint: unlike the deplorables progressives dont walk lock step with each other...we actually have free thought and differing opinions...just cause i love my brother maher doesnt mean i dont vehemently disagree with him on certain things
Quote from: SD on March 19, 2017, 09:30:06 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on March 19, 2017, 08:44:37 PM
Quote from: SD on March 19, 2017, 08:25:16 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on March 19, 2017, 07:05:16 PM
this country treats people so well that it allows them to kneel during a stupid meaningless song
If it's so bad for him here why doesn't he move to a Muslim country?
for as long as i live i will never understand this argument...what does it even mean?
anyway id rather lose and be a progressive than win and be a racist misogynistic barbarian
resist
kaep >>>>>>>>>>>> trump and goodell
If I was at a sporting event and America was playing some country that I didn't like or disagreed with and I chose to booo or kneel you wouldn't have a problem with that?
no matter who america plays in the world cup i root against them....id burn a farging flag if it meant they didnt advance...so no i honor your right to root for whatever country you want in any sport...its what america is all about
Olympic Basketball. The US is playing Nigeria. I don't agree with their religion/culture/governance/corruption, I decide to kneel while their national anthem is being played. That's ok by you?
well the national anthem means literally nothing to me so no why would i care at all...also i could care less about olympic basketball
i care about people not songs and flags
i think a big difference btwn me and you is that you are military so you obviously feel more strongly about symbols than i do and i totally get and respect that even if i dont feel the same way
Get Kap!
John Elway sent a letter supporting Gorsuch's confirmation...on Broncos letterhead
trump mocking kaepernick tonight at his redneck rally and saying no NFL team will sign him because they don't want nasty tweets from trump
I don't know what is more sad that our president is threatening NFL owners with tweets or that he's a pathetic hatemongering bully
Quote from: ice grillin you on March 20, 2017, 08:46:41 PM
trump mocking kaepernick tonight at his redneck rally and saying no NFL team will sign him because they don't want nasty tweets from trump
I don't know what is more sad that our president is threatening NFL owners with tweets or that he's a pathetic hatemongering bully
I wouldn't call that a threat; it's more of a dumb joke from a dumbass. I still can't believe he's our president.
didnt sound remotely like a joke to me and the crowd definitely didn't take it as such
but even if you believe it was the guy has had hundreds of threats of physical violence against him and or his family so it's completely irresponsible for the president to use his office to even joke about this especially to the red meat supporters who were attending or watching
Come on, Jeff. Stick it in his eye. You know Pederson would love to carry 3 QBs.
Get Kap.
kap shouldve thought twice before kneeling during a song
if he dies he dies
Everything Trump does as POtuS is irresponsible.
Gale Sayers has dementia (which was diagnosed four years ago). He just moved home from a care facility so he'll probably be dead sooner than later.
Quote from: Tomahawk on March 21, 2017, 01:21:31 AM
Gale Sayers has dementia (which was diagnosed four years ago). He just moved home from a care facility so he'll probably be dead sooner than later.
and dwight clark has als altho this was probably already posted
Quote from: Tomahawk on March 21, 2017, 01:21:31 AM
Gale Sayers has dementia (which was diagnosed four years ago). He just moved home from a care facility so he'll probably be dead sooner than later.
Lucky bastich didn't read the last two pages.
Quote from: Diomedes on March 20, 2017, 10:37:25 PM
Come on, Jeff. Stick it in his eye. You know Pederson would love to carry 3 QBs.
Get Kap.
be the first jersey ive bought in at least ten years
Now I want it to happen just so you'll be seen in a midnight green jersey
I have no problem with Kap and others doing what they did. Have no problem with John Carlos and Tommie Smith from the 1968 Olympics.
Kap is putting actions out there. So when fargface Trump at one of his klan rallies rips the guy and his MAGA hat wearing imbeciles need it makes me laugh. Kap has done more than any of those people have in regards to helping people.
He just donated $50k to Meals on Wheels today too
Quote from: MDS on March 20, 2017, 11:51:32 PM
kap shouldve thought twice before kneeling during a song
if he dies he dies
This is quality work right here. You need to post more of this and less of...well...everything else you post.
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on March 21, 2017, 01:14:46 PM
Now I want it to happen just so you'll be seen in a midnight green jersey
I have no problem with Kap and others doing what they did. Have no problem with John Carlos and Tommie Smith from the 1968 Olympics.
Kaep isn't doing what others are doing. Kneeling during a national anthem or a flag is displayed is a universal sign of disrespect.
Whereas "The raised fist, or the clenched fist, is a symbol of solidarity and support. It is also used as a salute to express unity, strength, defiance, or resistance."
the usa electing a bigot is a universal sign of disrespect to anyone who isnt kkk
nothing more patriotic than protest, especially during an anthem or around a flag. the fact that kap can do that and not wind up in jail is why america isnt horrible. you can disagree with the protest but still respect his right to do it.
You're confusing the issues. He has the right to do whatever the hell he wants within the confines of the law. But don't act like he's a 'victim' because teams don't want to sign him after he showed a sign of disrespect. That's where this whole argument started. That teams won't sign him because of his actions.
As to your first point yeah I agree...not sure what that has to do with Kaepernick.
His kneeling was his way to draw attention to the issues he wanted to bring to the forefront
He did things wrong too (pig socks etc) but the open cheering for him to remain unemployed because he's some military hating punk is harsh.
I didn't know this was the fishing thread.
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on March 21, 2017, 03:08:01 PM
His kneeling was his way to draw attention to the issues he wanted to bring to the forefront
He did things wrong too (pig socks etc) but the open cheering for him to remain unemployed because he's some military hating punk is harsh.
A big part of business (especially when you're a celebrity/pro athlete/public figure) is about how you carry and market yourself. He chose to take those actions, so now he's seeing the result of said actions. I feel no sympathy for him. Bottom line is he's bad for business.
Quote from: SD on March 21, 2017, 03:17:42 PM
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on March 21, 2017, 03:08:01 PM
His kneeling was his way to draw attention to the issues he wanted to bring to the forefront
He did things wrong too (pig socks etc) but the open cheering for him to remain unemployed because he's some military hating punk is harsh.
A big part of business (especially when you're a celebrity/pro athlete/public figure) is about how you carry and market yourself. He chose to take those actions, so now he's seeing the result of said actions. I feel no sympathy for him. Bottom line is he's bad for business.
Or you use your celebrity and fame to advance your beliefs and offer assistance to causes you support and believe in.
He's only bad for business in yours and others eyes who think he took a dump on the military and the flag, which he did not. Too many equate this to not supporting the troops. And that's a crazy position to take. The anthem isn't solely representative of military.
He had a problem with the police shootings and the cover ups.
I applaud what Kap did but when you're a marginal player, you're one controversy away from being retired. Doesn't even matter if it's your fault or not, controversy = circus = headache for the team.
Even if any GMs support Kap, why would they want to deal with the fallout for a waiver wire quality player who has been benched repeatedly for Blaine Gabbert? Just sign Matt McGloin and be done with it.
Infinitely more outrage has been expressed over Kaepernick taking a knee than over the actual brutal murders of innocent citizens by the cops.
Good thing our priorities are squared away.
Quote from: Rome on March 21, 2017, 03:28:45 PM
Infinitely more outrage has been expressed over Kaepernick taking a knee than over the actual brutal murders of innocent citizens by the cops.
Good thing our priorities are squared away.
Blue lives matter! He's a thug!
kap is getting hosed on this.
I personally think he's an intellectually lazy, attention-whoring douchebag. And he sucks as a quarterback, so farg him in that respect.
That said, he's not wrong about the issue he protested nor was he wrong in expressing that protest in the way he did.
Quote from: Rome on March 21, 2017, 03:44:38 PM
I personally think he's an intellectually lazy, attention-whoring douchebag. And he sucks as a quarterback, so farg him in that respect.
That said, he's not wrong about the issue he protested nor was he wrong in expressing that protest in the way he did.
agreed. I wouldn't have done the same, but I have no issue with kap for doing it.
especially when you consider how some fans disrespect the national anthem by not standing themselves, talking, not taking their hats off.
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on March 21, 2017, 03:22:48 PM
Quote from: SD on March 21, 2017, 03:17:42 PM
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on March 21, 2017, 03:08:01 PM
His kneeling was his way to draw attention to the issues he wanted to bring to the forefront
He did things wrong too (pig socks etc) but the open cheering for him to remain unemployed because he's some military hating punk is harsh.
A big part of business (especially when you're a celebrity/pro athlete/public figure) is about how you carry and market yourself. He chose to take those actions, so now he's seeing the result of said actions. I feel no sympathy for him. Bottom line is he's bad for business.
Or you use your celebrity and fame to advance your beliefs and offer assistance to causes you support and believe in.
He's only bad for business in yours and others eyes who think he took a dump on the military and the flag, which he did not. Too many equate this to not supporting the troops. And that's a crazy position to take. The anthem isn't solely representative of military.
He had a problem with the police shootings and the cover ups.
You can use your celebrity and fame to advance whatever you want, how you go about doing that is subject to judgement. You're the same people who mock Tebow for using his 'fame' by kneeling in the name of God (for the record so am I)
I never said he took a dump on the military. Bottom line is 70% of NFL teams think he's bad for business.
the guy just got another country to fly an airplane full of food and water to starving somalians but omg the stupid farging national anthem so nfl execs "genuinely hate" him and fans send him death threats and call him lazy....its preposterous...if he doesnt have an afro this isnt half the story it is
that said i think he still gets on a team....im not saying hes blackballed its way too early for that....i was more reacting to the poll of nfl execs who mostly said they hated him...they all need to go to hell immediately
Quote from: smeags on March 21, 2017, 03:55:04 PM
especially when you consider how some fans disrespect the national anthem by not standing themselves, talking, not taking their hats off.
how exactly the farg do you disrespect a song?...the biggest part of this ridiculous controversy lies in racist meatheads and rich old white men but second to that is the fact that people care way too much about a stupid song
Quote from: SD on March 21, 2017, 03:17:42 PMBottom line is he's bad for business.
Exactly. He might be good for a football team, but we're not talking about people who care about football games. This is the NFL. Business.
he would not affect a teams bottom line even one penny...shtein vick was the starting qb and didnt hurt the eagles and people love dogs more than they hate blacks
if anything hed help cause his jersey would be the highest selling back up qb in the nfl
almost everything gets split in the nfl anyway
also the revenue thing doesnt fly as that poll of executives showed that they hated him personally not because they thought they would lose money off him
who would want this creep on their team....i genuinely would hate any team that gave him a chance and any fan who would dare cheer for him
http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/football/kaepernick-50g-donation-time-meals-wheels-article-1.3004757
Quote from: ice grillin you on March 21, 2017, 05:05:44 PM
he would not affect a teams bottom line even one penny...shtein vick was the starting qb and didnt hurt the eagles and people love dogs more than they hate blacks
He comes with a sideshow/baggage. Teams have to weigh is his talent worth the aggravation/distractions. In Vick's case a few teams did. In Kaepernicks case they (as of today) do not. Same with TO. Same with Tebow. Same with Michael Sam (remember that guy?)
tebow and sam couldnt play in the nfl
TO blew up locker rooms
kaepernick can play in the league and is a good teammate by all accounts...so those are not apt comparisons
again tho this a different argument...i am not saying nor do i think hes blackballed....now if he doesnt have a job in September i will change my opinion but i still think hes on a team come next year
Never said he wasn't a good team mate
You sign him you're signing a distraction. Unless you're the Pats who seem to be immune to distractions you sign him knowing there's a sideshow. Nobody wants to deal with that for a marginal QB.
I don't care that Tebow kneels. I'll make fun if it and I'll make fun of just about everything but at the root of it he's free to do whatever he wants.
The distraction thing is lazy too IMO. It's only a distraction because teams and PR people allow it to be one.
The same people who have issue with this had an issue with the black lives matter shirts and demonstrations by athletes in the wake of Ferguson.
Why is that?
Quote from: SD on March 21, 2017, 05:29:59 PM
Never said he wasn't a good team mate
you used TO as a comparison...TO was a terrible locker room distraction and unless kaepernick was/is they are totally different situations on every level
i think vick is the fair comparison...both players were not great qb's and committed moral/ethical crimes in the fans eyes (vick obviously committed real crimes too)
Quote from: ice grillin you on March 21, 2017, 05:05:44 PM
he would not affect a teams bottom line even one penny...shtein vick was the starting qb and didnt hurt the eagles and people love dogs more than they hate blacks
I was thinking about Vick the other day when we were going back and forth about this. Even though their "offenses" are drastically different, bottom line is that both carry bad publicity. But the reason why it worked for Vick and the Eagles is because (at the time) the Eagles were a very stable organization with an established QB and a strong HC/FO/Owner who could absorb everything.
That's pretty much what Kap needs right now. Seattle is the first (and really the only) team that comes to mind where Kap could be signed as a backup and the franchise wouldn't suffer. PacNW is a perfect location for him because it's crazy liberal up there and Carroll is probably the most perfect coach in the NFL for him, both because of his personality and how he relates to players and also because of the offense they run.
not one single franchise would suffer financially by signing him...and the notion that one would is ludicrous
the worst thing that could happen is he sucks...but if he plays and hes good the fanbase of every team will love him
racist meatheads are a huge portion of nfl fans but they want their team to win more than they hate black people and they love the nfl more than life itself...no one player is changing that except a pedophile...and im not even sure about that
ray lewis migth have murdered someone....vick was in ivolved in torturing dogs...ben is a rapist...riley cooper a racist...etc etc etc.....these things dont matter
I know this has probably been said before, but I'm disappointed that not one of our veterans has stood next to kaep during one of his exercises of his rights.
The fact that he's protesting should be revered because he's showing the world exactly what the flag stands for. But yet, people have limited intellect and perspective and fall in line with the hate mongering. People love knee jerk and shoot first. God forbid they let the emotion settle in and get a clear head again.
All I can say is that at least he's doing something, as trivial as it may seem to you or the country. He's done way more with his protest than I've ever done my whole life for any cause or belief. That's pathetic. Bravo to Kaep, keep it going, people are watching.
greg hardy is as repulsive a human as theres been in the nfl....he went to the most popular team in the sports....they are doing fine
kap will not even be a distraction. thats such a worthless team to throw out. yea in week 10 before a big game all everyone in the locker room will be thinking about is the back up qb kneeling during a song 15 months ago.
when he signs with ___ team there will be some immediate hot takes and terrible opinion pieces and some very silly boycott calls but it will all go away relatively quickly even if trump tweets about it.
the bigger question is will woman puncher joe mixon get drafted and lol of course he will bitch had it coming
Quote from: hbionic on March 21, 2017, 09:52:37 PM
I know this has probably been said before, but I'm disappointed that not one of our veterans has stood next to kaep during one of his exercises of his rights.
they didnt stand next to him but at least a good amount of veterans supported him for that very reason...including that long snapper guy from the seahawks whose name i cant recall...overall i was pleasantly surprised by the amount of public support he got from the military
Poor Kaep, such a victim. Pity party time. Let's all hug. 😢
nobody is calling him a victim....what we're saying is its stupid to demonize him for it
also i think hes a decent shot to sign with houston or denver, which ever one doesnt wind up with romo
yeah who said he was a victim...he doesnt even call himself a victim....but nfl execs hating him and trump spewing maybe the least racially coded thing hes said since becoming a candidate for president last night is sickening....its funny how the manliest men who hate women and bully gays and people with disabilities are the first people to get their panties in a bunch over a piece of cloth
By saying 70% of the league won't sign him because league owners are neanderthal racist bigots who disagree with him is the same as calling him a victim.
if hes blackballed hes definitely a victim...but i already said i am not ready to go there yet
You did everything but use the term "blackballed" with this post
Quote from: ice grillin you on March 19, 2017, 02:23:43 PM
he had 16 td and 4 int last year on a horrid team in a league that has like ten good qb's
there is literally zero chance hes not on a team right now if the league wasnt filled with ignorant neanderthals
blackballed means you are never in the league again....like ever...his current status is definitely being affected by racism...but thats a far cry from calling it a blackball which wouldnt be fair at this point
He'll be on a roster by training camp, but I'd imagine it'll happen much sooner than that...like within a few days after the draft at the latest. That's my guess anyway.
He'll be on a roster battling it out with Vince Young, probably. There's a couple of good quarterbacks to be had right now, and he's not really one of them.
Schefter saying Captain knee down had a significant offer from an unknown team which he turned down.
perhaps he doesnt want to play and/or deal with the cretins that control the nfl and the troglodytes that watch it and threaten his life which would be a great thing
someone like him would be much better off serving society in some public service or philanthropic way and he seems like the kind of person who would retire early to do something like that...hes so much better than the nfl
Quote from: General_Failure on March 21, 2017, 10:55:44 PM
There's a couple of good quarterbacks to be had right now.
who?...i honestly dont know every qb left on the market but i dont know of any that you can make a case are better than kaep and i highly doubt there are any good qb's left....good qb's generally dont hit the market and if they do they get scooped quick..but maybe im not thinking of one thats out there
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Quote from: ice grillin you on March 22, 2017, 08:31:00 AM
who?...i honestly dont know every qb left on the market but i dont know of any that you can make a case are better than kaep and i highly doubt there are any good qb's left....good qb's generally dont hit the market and if they do they get scooped quick..but maybe im not thinking of one thats out there
Cutler's out there, his neck wobbling in the breeze. Romo's just a trade away. Chase Daniel's probably not a better option than Kaep, but he'll get signed. Hell, somebody'll probably give Ryan Fitzpatrick another contract.
none of them are good except a healthy romo and like you said hes not a free agent...in fact none of them are more appealing than kaep...kaep tho hes 29 even has a little upside as you could hope he gets back to what he was a few years ago
interesting piece on the effect trumps kaepernick comments may have
https://www.thenation.com/article/donald-trump-may-be-the-best-thing-that-ever-happened-to-colin-kaepernick/
Quote from: General_Failure on March 22, 2017, 08:52:27 AM
Quote from: ice grillin you on March 22, 2017, 08:31:00 AM
who?...i honestly dont know every qb left on the market but i dont know of any that you can make a case are better than kaep and i highly doubt there are any good qb's left....good qb's generally dont hit the market and if they do they get scooped quick..but maybe im not thinking of one thats out there
Cutler's out there, his neck wobbling in the breeze. Romo's just a trade away. Chase Daniel's probably not a better option than Kaep, but he'll get signed. Hell, somebody'll probably give Ryan Fitzpatrick another contract.
I don't think I've ever criticized anything GF has said before, but if Cutler is the first "good" QB that comes to mind when making a case that there are plenty of good QBs available, you've already disproven your point.
gf has been living in new zealand for the better part of a decade....hes legit seen jay cutler play maybe once
Would have thrown for 4,000 yards in 2014 if he played a 16th game, could have done it again in 2015. If he still wants a job, he'll have one before Kaepernick.
He's also NOT a rabble rousing negro, so to the plantation owners in the NFL, Cutler is preferable by about a bazillion percent.
Chase Daniel will get a job before Kaepernick. Bet on that.
Quote from: General_Failure on March 23, 2017, 07:51:18 PM
Would have thrown for 4,000 yards in 2014 if he played a 16th game, could have done it again in 2015. If he still wants a job, he'll have one before Kaepernick.
i know you dont watch or even like football so please just stop
Eagles proposed allowing teams to be able to wear a second helmet throughout the season
Jeffrey must want the hideous blue/yellow back!
maybe just maybe just maybe they want to go kelly green
nah too good to be true
Yes too good to be true
Lurie would rather go 0-16 for a decade
it was the old wife who hated the color....the new asian gash has a restaurant empire to run
Sure and Lurie should go back to it. Unless he hates it too.
His new chick is some restaurant mogul?
No, we're just assuming her family has at least one take-out place, dry cleaner, and nail salon.
her family owns a bunch of popular gook places in the city
Quote from: General_Failure on March 23, 2017, 10:09:29 PM
No, we're just assuming her family has at least one take-out place, dry cleaner, and nail salon.
Lolol
Quote from: General_Failure on March 23, 2017, 10:09:29 PM
No, we're just assuming her family has at least one take-out place, dry cleaner, and nail salon.
A+. Would laugh again.
Definitely because he knows the Kelly green throwbacks look hideous when paired with the midnight green helmets.
Just go back to the old colors and be done with it.
cbs also IN on romo, which methinks would mean the end of one phillip simms -- at least as their main guy
Eagles pulled 3 of 4 of their rule change requests including the alternate helmet. Only rule they kept was jumping over the center on FG/EP attempts
Well farg.
That no jumping rule is stupid too. That makes it fun to see guys be able to time that. If they don't time it right or they land on a player then it is a penalty.
QuoteCould a rule pass that incentivizes a kickoff through the uprights? Possible. Washington proposed it, and the one worry is that a team like Denver, in high altitude where balls carry better, could have an edge for eight games a year. (I'm serious. That is a concern.) Under the proposal, a kickoff through the uprights would result in ball placement at the 20-yard line instead of the 25 on first down. This could be close, but I would guess it will not pass.
That's such a dumb rule that I'm all for it. farg it, put up some Arena nets and let's get real stupid.
Yep that's some Arena League shtein
Fitting that Washington would propose that. Clown show.
I'm happy Vegas has a team but I long for the days when no city steps up and gives the NFL and their owners public funds for stadiums.
I think I saw where since 1980 NFL teams have moved ten times and the other leagues had like a combined five
Oh and $6.7b in public funds have been used on NFL stadiums the last 20yrs
50% of the billionaires who own NFL franchises have received public handouts for new stadiums.
They're worse than any welfare queens I've ever heard of.
why pony up 750 mil when its going to be given to you
the game is out there
So, Vegas is official? I've been practicing not watching any news lately.
Quote from: hbionic on March 29, 2017, 03:03:20 PM
So, Vegas is official? I've been practicing not watching any news lately.
Owners approved them to move but I don't think there's actually a done deal between the Raiders & Vegas yet. And I think they're looking at 2 years minimum to move anyway.
Ok.
Out of curiosity, was it a unanimous vote or did the Rams vote against the move?
dolphins cause they didnt wanna risk losing their spot as the number one road trip city in the league
Quote from: ice grillin you on March 29, 2017, 06:38:07 PM
dolphins cause their gazillionaire owner was butthurt about the fact that he couldn't get public funding for his stadium and had to pay out of pocket and doesn't see why a welfare baby like Mark Davis does.
Side note: It really can't be stated enough just how unsightly Mark Davis is. He is one of the absolute ugliest motherfargers I've ever seen and his Lloyd Christmas haircut makes me want to murderdeathkill his barber.
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He's not a burn survivor?
Who knew.
Romo is retiring and going to CBS
I'm not seeing the CBS part confirmed anywhere. If he replaces Simms this is the best move of the offseason.
Also good for Romo. I was fascinated to see how much he had left in the tank, but continuing to play clearly would have been idiotic from a health standpoint.
Fox needs to get him so we can have a Romo/Aikmen duo
That would probably be just the incentive I need to gouge my ears out permanently.
Hallelujah he's replacing Simms
Probably going to take some time to hone his broadcasting skills. Wouldn't expect him to be very good out of the gate. Then again, Simms has had like 20 years to get good and he still sucks. Should be a mild improvement to start, hopefully after a year or 2 he gets really good.
I've seen him guesting on things and I think I've even seen him join guys in a booth before. He's already far better than Simms.
i was saying that if cbs was going to move on simms it was going to be now...they have the super bowl in 2 seasons, so that would give romo nearly 50 games under his belt before a broadcast in front of 120 mil.
surprisingly there is no audition tape for him. cbs is just giving him this. i had figured there was one, quite the leap but like everyone said simms was so terrible im willing to give this a shot.
I find it amazing he's being given the #1 color slot without five minutes of experience. I really don't give a shtein either way because it's not like the eagles are on CBS that often anyway.
Quote from: Rome on April 04, 2017, 02:21:12 PM
I find it amazing he's being given the #1 color slot without five minutes of experience. I really don't give a shtein either way because it's not like the eagles are on CBS getting the #1 broadcast team that often anyway.
Quote from: Rome on April 04, 2017, 02:21:12 PM
I find it amazing he's being given the #1 color slot without five minutes of experience. I really don't give a shtein either way because it's not like the eagles are on CBS that often anyway.
very real chance at 2 nantz/romo games this year....home raiders and home broncos have the ingredients for it
Stock up on ear plugs.
Quote from: Sgt PSN on April 04, 2017, 12:48:25 PM
Probably going to take some time to hone his broadcasting skills.
It's a very difficult job. I've known Evan Washburn for years. The work he has put into doing his job is pretty amazing. Untold hours practicing and practicing, pouring over game film, reading boring shtein. If Romo ends up being any good, it won't be just natural, he'll have to work at it.
Quote from: Rome on April 04, 2017, 04:43:36 PM
Stock up on ear plugs.
I may have mentioned this once or a billion times, but turning the sound off makes watching football so much better.
not watching at all aint bad either
meh. phil simms is hot garbage.
Quote from: General_Failure on April 04, 2017, 06:09:21 PM
Quote from: Rome on April 04, 2017, 04:43:36 PM
Stock up on ear plugs.
I may have mentioned this once or a billion times, but turning the sound off makes watching football so much better.
I agree with this wholeheartedly. Saved me a remote many times.
From Schefter
Cleveland has not made up its mind at No. 1, per source. Split opinions. Some like Myles Garrett, some like Mitchell Trubisky. We will see.
If they take Trubusky first overall my god
I'm sure Clevelands inner circle of top brass is making that info public two weeks before the draft cause it's true
Any other team no
Cleveland is Cleveland
no team would do that but this new Cleveland regime is close the last that would...they are super secretive hinkie magic types
Ex moneyball dook running them means lil guy is balls deep in the Browns right?
adam schefter is not in the business of making things up...if it was some whatever reporter id be ignoring it but schefter is batting roughly 1000 with everything nfl. id feel confident his info is on the money.
you don't get how leading up to the NFL draft works
he can accurately report info that was given to him but it doesn't mean the info is accurate....this info in this case is clearly not accurate
i trust schefty to not report info he knows is bs....of course everyone is fed shtein now. again until hes proven wrong im not sure how you couldnt take his word as gospel
Quote from: MDS on April 11, 2017, 11:43:33 PM
i trust schefty to not report info he knows is bs
hahahaha
you dont watch espn so youve never seen an episode of nfl insiders or any of their other nfl shows hes on but if you had youd know how silly of a statement that is
forget the fact that theres no such thing as a human lie detector making it impossible for him to know if something is true or not he wouldnt have a job with espn if he only reported stuff thats true...not just because there wouldnt be enough information to justify his position as the head "insider" but because espn would fire him for insubordination....the nfl and espn live off nfl rumors...other than live sports its makes up their exisitence....its a large part of his job description to throw shtein out there thats "hes heard" so they can have the rest of the network fire off hot nfl takes
of course it is...but i never got the sense schefter traffics in that. hes probably the most plugged in nfl person in the world.
FWIW, Schefty said on 97.5 today that it was Cleveland scout that told him this, not Cleveland execs.
Quote from: MDS on April 12, 2017, 09:02:21 AM
of course it is...but i never got the sense schefter traffics in that. hes probably the most plugged in nfl person in the world.
you cant even believe how much he does it....their opening of nfl free agency show was a calamity with him sitting on the phone and getting up from the desk to walk away for a minute to take a call....it was hilariously cheesy....and he must have spit it out 50 billion free agency things he was "hearing" and about two of them came true
im not saying he isnt a real reporter or some troll like chris broussard or that he knowingly traffics in lies....i actually agree that hes one of the best but he also doesnt have some magic filter that gets rid of misinformation and he will not hesitate to throw out things he isnt making up but things that he cant confirm are true
half the shtein he says ends up being two segemts on first take every day and whatever the debate is over the thing actually never ends up happening
hankins to the colts...3 yrs...$30 mill.
dean blandino quit
congrats to j. im sure his replacement will fix all of the things you complain about.
blandino is going into tv to be mike parera...im guessing cbs
Its a start.
Blandino was awful.
theres more to it....blandino pushed to centralize replay and was going to run the show on that. basically he was going to make every close call. then he up and quit.
im guessing it has something to do with his dick. stuck it where it wasnt supposed to go.
In Jerry Jones' mouth?
probably
cbs is denying interest. maybe nbc? how much money can there be for him to work 1 game a week. parera's job makes sense because he can appear on all 6/8 fox games
PFT says FOX and will be teamed up with Pereira
thats a terrible idea
perera is a boss, he dont need no help
This could have gone a few different places:
Rod Carew received his transplanted hears from former Ravens TW Konrad Reulan after he passed from a brain aneurysm. (http://www.kare11.com/news/carew-received-heart-from-late-ravens-te/431330424)
As if to balance out the uplifting former players news...Todd Heap. Awful. Don't know how you go on after something like that.
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C9iAfK_XoAEDy8-.jpg)
ESPN had a mock draft simulation show on a while ago that was mildly entertaining.
The best part for me was the realization that Chris Berman will be gone and Trey Wingo will replace him.
Quote from: Diomedes on April 15, 2017, 09:50:29 AM
As if to balance out the uplifting former players news...Todd Heap. Awful. Don't know how you go on after something like that.
Yeah. I can't even imagine.
pats/chiefs the opener
falcons snf week 1 against gb or dal
this piece is worth the read
http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2017/04/the-alt-rights-favorite-team-visits-the-white-house-215046
spencer went to auburn tonight and called for an end to sec football cause too many blacks
Aaron Hernandez hanged himself
Dead
I wonder if he was working in the library when he did it.
Saved the taxpayers a ton of money.
Good riddance, bitch.
He's in the discussion for worst human being to ever play in the NFL. And that's quite a list.
Quote from: Diomedes on April 18, 2017, 09:42:47 PM
this piece is worth the read
http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2017/04/the-alt-rights-favorite-team-visits-the-white-house-215046
25 people gave one million dollars or more to trumps inaugural....four of those 25 people were nfl owners
kraft of course
bob mcnair texas forever
lil danni SHOCKER
shahid khan - jacksonville
Quote from: Diomedes on April 18, 2017, 09:42:47 PM
this piece is worth the read
http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2017/04/the-alt-rights-favorite-team-visits-the-white-house-215046
QuoteHe read pieces on a website called Caste Football, which celebrates white athletes and dissects the racial makeup of college and pro teams.
The
other :CF
Oh man, the Other CF getting media coverage now?
Where's our token mention in a piece, GF?
McNair is probably the biggest Republican donor in the NFL by a wide margin. Woody Johnson is a big Republican too but is more tight fisted with money. Kraft just showers money all over the place and his Trump support seems like a personal thing.
woody johnson did donate a million and got an ambassadorial position for it
couldnt believe he wasnt on the initial list but jerry jones also reportedly donated a million....as did stan kronke
ed glazer gave 250k
Other than Lurie are any owners lefties?
arthur blank definitely is....i think zygi wilf is but dont quote me on that
pretty sure john mara is fairly sane as is paul allen and jim irsay
i guess it depends on what you mean by lefty...theres some owners who are socially not nutcases they just love money more than they love people and then theres others who are apolitical but give money to garner favors
but most are pubs and no one is more liberal than lurie
Jim Irsay is definitely NOT sane.
talkin politics
rob delaney is crazy as a loon
yeah I meant liberal when saying lefties
is lurie a true liberal or just a kennedy dem
because he grubs money likes a pro
Tampa Bay gets Hard Knocks
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C9y0YkdWAAA_arh.jpg)
He wanted to grab her by the Hoyda
Quote from: QB Eagles on April 19, 2017, 08:51:47 AM
He's in the discussion for worst human being to ever play in the NFL. And that's quite a list.
yeah good riddance for sure just such weird timing. he just beat 2 murder counts last week. either he was like farg it, may as well waste a lot of people's time before going out. or maybe it was beating 2 murders and realizing it still doesn't atter he's never getting out of prison.
or i guess most likely it just popped into his head and he did it without thinking much into it.
"For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life."
Why can't more iceholes read this and think, "I should kill myself."
Quote from: phattymatty on April 19, 2017, 05:35:12 PM
Quote from: QB Eagles on April 19, 2017, 08:51:47 AM
He's in the discussion for worst human being to ever play in the NFL. And that's quite a list.
yeah good riddance for sure just such weird timing. he just beat 2 murder counts last week. either he was like farg it, may as well waste a lot of people's time before going out. or maybe it was beating 2 murders and realizing it still doesn't atter he's never getting out of prison.
or i guess most likely it just popped into his head and he did it without thinking much into it.
A friend of mine who is an attorney said that he believes Mass is one of the states where once the conviction is vacated then the estate is no longer liable for civil damages. Additionally it allows his wife and daughter to be able to collect on NFL benefits and have his money that's left over
When I first heard they found him hanged in his cell, I assumed someone else in the prison didn't like the results of his trial too much. I suppose that's still possible if the guards were in on something, but a suicide seems more likely to me given the details.
Doesn't seem to be much point in trying to figure out what he was thinking. He was stupid and violent. There could have been a million different idiotic reasons he killed himself. I do reject any hypothesis that he did this for his wife or any other reason that is halfway intelligent or considerate for others.
yeah i don't care and am already done wondering why, just seems like he's be the type of dude who could still live like a king in prison.
I was with a friend who is a lifelong Patriots fan today and we were wondering how long ago Hernandez went to prison. He googled it and said the date was 4/18.
Also, whatever really happened Belichick has a secret tape of it.
drafted at 20, multimillionaire at 22, arrested at 25, dead at 27.
that actually a pretty efficient life.
some schedule shtein i noticed
-league said they were going to get rid of the 930 games, but 3/4 london games are 930. only one thats 100 is rams/cardinals, i.e. the one with 2 west coast teams. i personally like the 930 games but would hate if the eagles played in it.
-this is the best mnf schedule since espn took over. their opener isnt strong and they got vikings/bears at some point but otherwise there are no on-paper duds.
-is the nfl scared of baseball? they are putting steelers/lions -- hardly a premier snf game -- up against the world series. in previous years this was eagles/cowboys, packers/broncos, etc.
-the tnf schedule has changed. it goes: nbc, 2 weeks to nfln, 5 weeks to cbs, 2 weeks to nfln, 6 weeks to nbc. week 15 is the last week with a thursday game....previous years it was week 16.
-fox gets the first 2 national 425 games which gives romo about 5/6 games before hes on national tv 4 times in less than 2 weeks.
-the jags and browns dont have any primetime games. not even thursday. womp womp. but the dreadful bears have 3. 3!
Is it really surprising that the team playing in the country's third largest tv market is on natty tv a lot?
I'm just asking.
lol i thought the same thing when i read that....it wouldnt suprise me if they were on five times....for a tv dood sometimes the lil guy doesnt get the simplest things
market size doesnt mean much when youre going to be 3-13. i get them being on once or twice early on in the season...but their late season saturday game is totally ridiculous. at that point its really about trying to get meaningful games in national tv spots and nothing with the bears will be meaningful then.
Who is their late opponent? If it's Green Bay it's understandable or even a projected playoff team. Besides, it's all preliminary anyway with the flex scheduling.
its the lions and the game is on a saturday and cannot be flexed
it is an nfl network exclusive game and they by design do not get great matchups but even so for a late season national game you want to put something there that might be halfway decent
yeah its national but its not even like its a good time slot....saturday afternoon on nfln is garbage...
even with that tho i would not be surprised at all if bears lions out rates chiefs rams that day
its chiefs/chargers but yea it might
they werent going to change the schedule around for those games, but you have dolphins/bills, bengals/vikings and cards/wash which are all more appealing than the 2 nfln games....eagles/giants is that weekend but wasnt an option since both teams have maxed out on national games
ok my last schedule note
fox has 8 425 games that go to around 90% of the country. 6 of these will involve the dallas cowboys.
I'm sorry, how many?
A shtein ton.
fox opens with seahawks/packers so its 6/7 games in reality
the 1 game? raiders vs. giants
It's almost as if the NFL was actively trying to counteract a media narrative about falling ratings.
All the more reason to hope the Cowboys suck balls next season.
dan graziano or what ever that doods name is said on espn today that the draft is ultimately going to find a permanent home in LA
Great. Hold it in a place where no one gives a shtein about the sport.
The league's infatuation with LA is stupid.
yea the league should hold the draft in REALAMERICATOWN,MIDWESTSTATE and serve MEAT and POTATOES for $5 with a BUDWEISER #maga
la is the 2nd biggest market in the country....the draft is a dumb event where names are read off a list....they are sprucing it up with as many shticks and gimmicks as possible in order to make as much as money as possible as is the point of all businesses.
the reason he said is that they want more players who are going to be drafted to attend....it dropped a lot from new york to chicago and has bottomed out this year with no one really wanting to go to philly
Why don't they just hold it in Texas then, since half the players are from there?
Quote from: ice grillin you on April 21, 2017, 03:11:46 PM
the reason he said is that they want more players who are going to be drafted to attend....it dropped a lot from new york to chicago and has bottomed out this year with no one really wanting to go to philly
the leagues infatuation with LA is stupid. put the draft in TULSA. thats a real FOOTBAWL city.
Quote from: General_Failure on April 21, 2017, 03:12:48 PM
Why don't they just hold it in Texas then, since half the players are from there?
or california
This was one of the things they used to sell the new stadium.
If you think this sucks, just wait until they move NFL Films there.
nfl films been RIP
I wonder if lil guy is on some of that kenzo spice?
Hold up...Aaron Hernandez was gay?
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on April 21, 2017, 09:58:09 PM
Hold up...Aaron Hernandez was gay?
care factor = negative one zillion
Same here but it was shocking to hear that would have never guessed
Someone at work said that's maybe why he capped Odin Lloyd - bc Lloyd was going to out him
you and your co workers are worse than a sewing circle
Oh yeah? And why is that?
I see that the news said the same thing
Kinda makes more sense to me than what the original suspected motive was
gossiping about whether a guy is gay or not and what that means as far as his death....might as well talk about the latest lifetime movie
Next time I'll call you and put you on speaker so you can join in
It went like this
Hernandez was gay
No way
Yeah the news said he may have killed ol dude because he was gonna out him
Makes sense
And then I went onto a phone call
Z
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on April 21, 2017, 09:44:38 PM
I wonder if lil guy is on some of that kenzo spice?
no just schoolin your trump ass up
Oh I must've missed this schooling
Link plz?
you got a lot to learn about the way the world works, son
Lolol
Alright pops
There is no difference between us talking sports and women talking celebrity gossip. We consume this entertainment product, they consume that one. Whatever.
true but gossip should be kept to whether jeremy hellickson is going to be moved at the trade deadline not about someones sexuality
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on April 21, 2017, 09:58:09 PM
Hold up...Aaron Hernandez was gay?
He was bi-sexual. Guess nobody would have ever known but he left a suicide note to his boyfriend in prison. He doesn't fit the gay profile, professional athlete, gang banger etc. Surprised me as well.
Quote from: ice grillin you on April 22, 2017, 08:24:38 AM
true but gossip should be kept to whether jeremy hellickson is going to be moved at the trade deadline not about someones sexuality
That's like their gossip should be kept to which movie a star turned downa role, or who inked a new deal, rather than who's schtupping who.
Quote from: MDS on April 21, 2017, 12:40:05 AM
-this is the best mnf schedule since espn took over. their opener isnt strong and they got vikings/bears at some point but otherwise there are no on-paper duds.
Opener is getting stronger. (http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/19237595/adrian-peterson-says-signing-new-orleans-saints)
by the time we hit draft night some late second rounder is going in the top 5 because of the idiot factor in this draft class
damn.....still active
http://deadspin.com/joe-thomas-says-hes-already-experiencing-memory-loss-1794683256?utm_campaign=socialflow_deadspin_twitter&utm_source=deadspin_twitter&utm_medium=socialflow
Quote"I definitely expect memory loss," Thomas said. "I'm already seeing memory loss, and maybe that's just because of my old age, or maybe it's football. It's hard to tell, I mean there's no double-blind studies when it comes to people's lives."
Thomas, who is 32 years old,
lol
http://www.espn.co.uk/nfl/story/_/id/19264404/commissioner-roger-goodell-says-nfl-sees-no-medical-benefits-marijuana (http://www.espn.co.uk/nfl/story/_/id/19264404/commissioner-roger-goodell-says-nfl-sees-no-medical-benefits-marijuana)
translation - big pharmas offer was better.
He used the same "our view is evolving" language that Obama used all those years he said marriage was only between a man and a woman. I take this to mean the same thing Obama meant: I realize my position is bullshtein but I'm not willing to stick my own neck out for these civil rights until I have more cover.
Except he's not a politician. He's a chief executive of an organization that hands out opiates like they're Pez candies. He's scum, pure and simple.
Quote from: Rome on April 28, 2017, 05:16:12 PM
Except he's not a politician. He's a chief executive of an organization that hands out opiates like they're Pez candies. He's scum, pure and simple.
Bills fired their GM and whole scouting staff the day after the draft.
The Pegula's don't seem to know what they're doing
Quote from: MDS on May 01, 2017, 10:34:10 AM
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on May 01, 2017, 02:52:23 AM
The Lurie's don't seem to know what they're doing
Not even close to warrant comparison
http://mmqb.si.com/mmqb/2017/04/30/buffalo-bills-dysfunction-doug-whaley-fired-after-draft-sean-mcdemott-terry-kim-pegula
playoff wins this decade
bills - 0
eagles - 0
I'm not shocked you're missing the point.
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on May 01, 2017, 11:00:33 PM
I'm not shocked you're missing the point.
The point is that you're a Lurie Lapper.
you like to brag about being the tallest midget...guess what, bub...you still cant reach the cereal
Ok.
The point stands the buffalo bills owners suck
Dispute that without somehow pretzeling this into an Eagles thing
dont throw stones from a glass house
eagles hired howie roseman then fired him for chip Kelley then rehired howie roseman
nothing buffalo has done is close to as bad as that
Now you're getting into lil guys stupid pills
You've said so yourself Lurie is a good owner
cause he's a liberal not cause he makes awesome football moves
Ok so let me get this right
Terry Pegula and his wife are better than Jeff Lurie
thats like saying matt stafford is better than andy dalton...i guess but so what?
point is your team is garbage and run incompetently.
Why bring the Eagles into it? Can any of us not offer any commentary without it somehow being directed towards the Eagles?
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on May 02, 2017, 12:03:15 AM
Ok so let me get this right
Terry Pegula and his wife are better than Jeff Lurie
not sure...they have been owners for like 5 minutes
and have won more games since taking over than Lurie
Yeah you and mds are right
They're awesome
Quote from: ice grillin you on May 02, 2017, 06:08:16 AM
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on May 02, 2017, 12:03:15 AM
Ok so let me get this right
Terry Pegula and his wife are better than Jeff Lurie
not sure...they have been owners for like 5 minutes
and have won more games since taking over than Lurie
Lurie bought the team in 1994. Pegulas bought the Bills in 2014
1994: 7-9
1995: 10-6
1996: 10-6
Total: 27-212014: 9-7
2015: 8-8
2016: 7-9
Total: 24-24
i think he meant the last 3 years, where the eagles are...24-24
i was counting the last two years....they bought the team after the 2014 season started so you cant even count that year
either way not sure how you judge an ownership after 30 months
He's been awful with the Sabres but maybe the NFL is different.
Quote from: QB Eagles on May 02, 2017, 10:40:02 AM
He's been awful with the film industry but maybe the NFL is different.
its not
lurie has windmills so there's that.
Wonderlic scores?
The lower, the better amirite?
Revis scored a 9 and Patrick Peterson a 10. Wouldn't mind getting a couple of corners like that. On the other hand, prob take a pass on Mo Claiborne at ...4
Bengals P/WR was the only player to ever score a perfect 50 on the wonderlic. Trivia: Who had the second highest score at 49?
hint: [spoiler]he was drafted by the Eagles[/spoiler]
answer: [spoiler]Mike Mamula[/spoiler]
Guessing Fitzpatrick since he's all smart and stuff.
I read the answer. I was not even close and probably wouldn't have guessed it with a thousand tries.
nothing makes me more mad these days than the nfl takes that colin kaepernicks numbers last year were due to chip kellys qb friendly offense
No shtein....we all know his numbers were due to pure luck
You misspelled suck.
we also know that chip kellys offense wasnt offense friendly once all the weapons were gone and the league started calling out his plays before they happened and both these things were more true than ever last year in sf...but somehowlast year kaep had good numbers because of chips offense...what the fargety farg
white people will always remain amazing to me...that is everywhere except mississippi and the nfl
Weird.
https://www.wsj.com/articles/baltimore-football-stadiums-brush-with-debt-1494975802?mod=e2fb
On Reddit, Eagles fans have a rep for being the best roasters. They were by far the funniest in most threads, including of coarse their own, last year.
The NFL subreddit has begun the "roast a team (https://www.reddit.com/r/nfl/comments/6cp9pl/rnfl_roast_of_the_carolina_panthers_132/)" thing this year with the Panthers and Eagles fans are killing it again.
Each thread is usually worth a few good laughs. Miami up next tommorow.
wonder if he can catch
https://twitter.com/RobertBobbyBles/status/866434148889755649
Impressive. It'll come in real handy on jump balls thrown in the endzone when he's being covered by a stack of tires.
The owners eliminated the cutdown to 75 players before the last preseason game. Now they go straight from 90 to 53 at the end of the preseason. I guess now they can put more worthless players in that worthless game.
They reduced OT from 15min to 10min
Dumb
kelvin benjamin in camp chubby as farg.
QuoteReversing a longstanding policy, the NFL has informed NBC, ESPN, CBS and FOX that they can run up to four 30-second commercials per game advertising hard liquor, the Wall Street Journal reports
I bet at some future point they will also advertise weed. Probably when it is still an NFL banned substance. Personally, I hope the first add we see is Celek doing one for Captain Morgan.
Chiefs extended Andy and fired their GM
Probably
But it sounded like the GM was getting into it with the owner
tom modrak and jeff lurie had the same make believe problems
this breaks it down nicely
http://www.kansascity.com/sports/spt-columns-blogs/sam-mellinger/article157737484.html
Former Bronco Mitchell Henry dead from leukemia at age 24. (http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/19775388/mitchell-henry-dies-leukemia-age-24)
DeAngelo Williams had a pretty funny interview with Schefter where he said he'd play for anyone except the Browns and Jaguars (because they are losers), the Panthers (because they treated him like shtein), and the Cowboys (because he hates the team and their fans).
he just became a legend in this city
https://streamable.com/vzijl
teddy bridgewater re-hab clip...not yet a year since his surgery
Curious timing here...Panthers fired their GM
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on July 17, 2017, 01:03:45 PM
Curious timing here...Panthers fired their GM
I can't remember any year with so many GM firings after January. Bills, Chiefs, Panthers, and that racist team in DC.
And to me, the weirdest GM thing this offseason is still John Lynch getting the 49ers job with absolutely zero applicable executive experience.
I agree about the firings. Especially this late in the year.
I can somewhat see Lynch getting a job. Kinda like Millen where he was around the game because of broadcasting. The comparison ends there as Lynch has always been pretty cerebral thanks to his Stanford education. Plus you have ownership in SF who doesn't really have a clue.
millen was a total meathead OLD SCHOOL football guy who had no earthly idea how to run a front office...lynch is a super smart dude who i would bet came into this as experienced as he could considering he didnt have experience. meaning he called, he talked, he listened, etc.
millen def went out drinking then shrugged his shoulders and drafted a wide out
Yeah that's why I said the comparison between the two ended with their broadcasting experience.
Jaws and Mayock were also rumored to be considered for FO jobs
you don't have to be smart to be a good NFL gm
ravens showing interest in kap
I hope dude lands somewhere. He's not very good but he's certainly good enough to be on a roster.
I would LOVE to see him in this town.
Quote from: Sgt PSN on July 27, 2017, 12:37:12 PM
I hope dude lands somewhere. He's not very good but he's certainly good enough to be on a roster.
not claiming he hasnt had a massive fall off or that hes a top 10 qb but hes way better than deserving to be on a roster.....hes easily good enough to start in this league full of shtein sauce at qb
look at his numbers last year on a putrid offense
Baltimore is probably the perfect city for him to get a fresh start. No one in this zesty league is going to give him a starting job, and nobody's going to be calling for Flacco to be benched. He'd get some time to play while Flacco deals with back issues, and maybe turns it into a starting job next year for Washington after they completely farg up their Cousins situation.
i mean i hate people in general....but wow do i REALLY farging despise nfl fans
http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/20171611/national-anthem-protests-no-1-reason-viewers-tuned-nfl-games?sf101569234=1
You of all people should know the 2016 election was more important than football
Baltimore is a great fit because:
a.) it's chocolate
b.) it's liberal (and so is the owner)
c.) despite his amazing performance through the playoffs and Super Bowl, delivering to these purple camo-clad idiots a second Lombardi, they love to hate on Flacco. You'd think he puked the game away, to hear these ingrates bitch and moan.
Quote from: ice grillin you on July 27, 2017, 02:08:54 PM
i mean i hate people in general....but wow do i REALLY farging despise nfl fans
http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/20171611/national-anthem-protests-no-1-reason-viewers-tuned-nfl-games?sf101569234=1
Every last one of them who voted wears a MAGA hat
not that nfl fans arent the worst but that poll is misleading
12% of fans said they watched less nfl. of that 12%, 26% cited kap kneeling as the reason. carry the 2 add the 7 thats like 5 people and theyre probably lying.
My favorite are the ones who didn't serve saying he's disrespecting those who do
And then like ten service people call into the show in a row saying no we fight for his right to do just that
QuoteThe New York Giants may have suffered a significant loss today, after wide receiver Sterling Shepard was carted off in tears, according to ESPN's Jordan Raanan.
Bawlbaby
QuoteWith John Bowlen facing DUI charges in California while allegedly driving more than 100 miles per hour, the son of Broncos owner Pat Bowlen has a separate legal entanglement in his home state of Colorado.
Via 9news.com in Denver, the DUI situation has triggered an allegation that John Bowlen violated the terms of the probation arising from his 2015 domestic violence arrest.
Mr Bowlen, we have Dallas on line one and Cincinnati on line two in a C suite offer bidding war.
supposedly all shepherd has is a sprained ankle....what a little bitch
Dolphins awaiting Tannehill's MRI results coming back this evening.
Everything from hyperextended knee to torn ACL is in play.
i thought i was pretty much over football but then i turned on nbc and even though its the cowboys i am hard af.
I'm blah on football this year. Maybe it's because I have so much going on but I'm really disinterested
Don't worry, they just need to spread the games out to Wednesdays and Fridays to bring you right back in.
If you allow the crazy ex to affect your enjoyment of anything, the terrorists win.
i think the league needs to ban at least one more black guy for protesting murderous cops before im fully out
MFGA?
Jay Cutler, Miami Dolphin.
you mean pale whiteler
I hear it was real close race between him and Kaepernick.
Honestly didn't think Cutler was going to come back.
He's an unlikeable bitch, but not a whole lot worse than Tannehill when it comes to playing QB. Back with Gase on a team loaded with offensive weapons, I don't think he'll look like he did last season.
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DG03OoIXgAATm4U.jpg)
It's great to make fun of how awful Ryan Leaf turned out to be....right up to the point that I remember dude only won like 4 games in his career and 1 of them was against the Eagles.
Also, I completely forgot that SD traded with Arizona to move up to number 2 so they could draft him.
QuoteMarch 16, 1998: Traded by Cardinals as 1998 1st round pick (2nd overall) to Chargers for 1998 1st round pick (3rd overall, Andre Wadsworth), 1998 2nd round pick (33rd overall, Corey Chavous), 1999 1st round pick (8th overall, David Boston), Eric Metcalf and Patrick Sapp
Cards absolutely fleeced the shtein out of SD on that one and it still took them another decade to get good.
David Boston...there's a name that hasn't scrolled through my brain for a long time. Talk about swoled, Christ. That dude got puffy at the end.
Andre Wadsworth was a colossal bust himself. That's one of the reasons it took the peckers long as it did to become competitive.
really all they got out of that entire trade was two great david boston seasons and a few seasons of good but not great corey chavous
All the Giants got was two Super Bowls and a HOF QB.
SUCKERS!
Quote from: Diomedes on August 10, 2017, 02:11:02 PM
David Boston...there's a name that hasn't scrolled through my brain for a long time. Talk about swoled, Christ. That dude got puffy at the end.
David Boston, Robocop (can't find the thread)
(https://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/s--fh4d-3MK--/18s0ot6ogrezajpg.jpg)
Quote from: Rome on August 10, 2017, 02:57:38 PM
All the Giants got was two Super Bowls and a HOF QB.
SUCKERS!
that was six years later but if you honestly look at it the chargers really got the better of the deal in that one
I was kidding, dude. 🤣
I don't get it
i dont know how he will end up as a qb but watching all mitch trubinskys throws on game pass this morning his arm strength jumps off the screen...it looks much better than even in college
Tannehill officially done for the season with a partially torn ACL. Same ACL he tore in December.
In other words, Tannehill officially done for the ever.
For the ever ever?
Bradford tore the same acl 2 years in a row so maybe just a bradford ever.
ill
https://twitter.com/Giants/status/897118004663767042
Dude is insane.
Also, he can catch.
Eh, I used to do that with a mini nerf football.
You can't make this shtein up: the new Falcons stadium will have a Chik-Fil-A, which will be closed on Sundays.
hey you gotta respect them sticking to their guns at least....not even the money grubbing whores of the nfl can make them open on sundays
It's the cheapest marking ploy ever. Free good will even from libtards like you.
PUKE
https://www.si.com/nfl/video/2017/08/15/roger-goodell-national-anthem-protests
Bortles...yuck
Cut bait from him, JAX. He may give Coughlin a heart attack.
Boldin has retired
Playing in the twilight of his career in Buffalo wasn't appealing.
One of the toughest dudes to play WR.
Probably couldn't stand trying to get to sleep while Jordan Matthews is crying over Wentz.
him being top ten all time in receptions just shows how ridiculous the league is skewed towards offense in this era
That's weird. I thought it was because he pretty much caught anything thrown near him.
nope
best jason avant ever
QuoteOnce upon a time, Vladimir Putin decided to walk away with one of Robert Kraft's Super Bowl rings. Donald Trump didn't have to be so bold.Via Tom Curran of CSN New England, Kraft gave Trump a Super Bowl LI ring, commemorating the Patriots victory over the Falcons
A woman's size 1, I'd imagine.
Ruben foster is good
Long snapper trades all over the place today. Colts traded theirs to the Jets for safety Ronald Martin.
if you think the eagles are frustrating try being the lions....gonna hand matt stafford, maybe the 15th best qb in the nfl, the biggest contract in the league
Sam Bradford has been paid how much money?
He had his crazy ass rookie contract, which was something like 75mil with 50mil guaranteed. I forget what the contract details with the Eagles were, but I don't remember them being terribly outrageous (relative to the market).
If I remember correctly, Bradford's rookie contract was so obscene that the following year they had a new rookie wage scale in place.
Stafford is probably more than halfway through his career and has been incredible at times and downright awful at times. Throwing that much money at him at this point in his career is beyond ridiculous.
i agree on the surface. stafford should not be the highest paid qb in the nfl. but consider this: good qbs are few and far between. good qbs hitting the open market are beyond rare. if stafford hit the open market, the jets, bills, dolphins, browns, possibly texans, maybe cardinals, jags and a few other teams would be fighting over him. the money would get astronomical.
but yea if im the lions i let him go, or trade him, and just bottom out and start over.
hes been really really good the last few years and is entering his prime...timing is everything and he happens to be man up right now for this kind of money...could do a whole lot worse than him being the highest paid player in the league
matthew stafford is so good the lions havent won a playoff game or even a division title. maybe now that hes in his prime hell magically become better than rodgers.
i get the timing as to why hes getting caked but the dude is a good not great qb. in my view its difficult to justify allocating that much of your cap to someone that isnt even a starting fantasy qb.
whats the scenario for the lions now? go somewhere between 6-10 and 9-7 for the next 5 years? sign me up for that.
the eagles havent been able to replace the farging bedwetter....good luck replacing a top ten qb in his prime
and stafford might not be great or be worth this kind of money but the nfl over pays for qb's...in three years he will be the 9th highest paid qb...thats how the nfl works
Quote from: ice grillin you on August 29, 2017, 09:39:42 AM
the eagles havent been able to replace the farging bedwetter
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Quote from: ice grillin you on August 29, 2017, 09:39:42 AM
top ten qb
rodgers, ryan, brees, newton, wilson, brady, roethlisberger, luck, carr, manning, cousins, rivers all better. winston, dak, wentz, mariota could all potentially be better.
if you are going to count young players who might be better than you have to count old players who might be worse...either way hes a top ten qb
lol at luck being better...luck cant even get on the field and when he does he isnt very good
holy crap i just noticed you put eli in there...wtf?
eli has 2 rings...stafford doesnt even have 2 playoff wins. hes won double digit games 2 times. no division titles. 0-3 in the playoffs. this isnt even a conversation.
luck cant stay on the field because his o line stinks. im not gonna count that against him.
this isnt a lifetime achievement award and isnt about the giants defense in 2007...its about the top ten qb's in the league right now....eli is not that close to being one of them
thats like saying victor cruz is a better wr than brandin cooks cause he won a superbowl a decade ago
if matt stafford is a top 10 qb without accomplishing anything than i am a top 10 sports writer in philly
Quote from: MDS on August 29, 2017, 11:26:26 AM
if matt stafford is a top 10 qb without accomplishing anything than i am a top 10 sports writer in philly
You very well might be at this point
http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/page/32for32x170831/nfl-nation-2017-game-game-predictions-projected-records-all-32-teams
I'd have to be pretty farging bored to read something so meaningless and absolutely bound to be wrong.
So you just read the part about the Eagles, too?
Quote from: General_Failure on August 31, 2017, 05:12:58 PM
So you just read the part about the Eagles, too?
I got to the second game before I quit:
QuoteWeek 2: Sunday, Sept. 17 at Kansas City Chiefs, 1 p.m. ET
Andy Reid faces protégé Doug Pederson, who was known by some of his players as "Skinny Andy" early on. While Pederson has since come into his own, the teacher is not ready to give way to the student. Record: 1-1
I always thought "come into his own" meant that the person did something competently. I guess it's just doing that something at all
you'd have to actually care about the eagles to read about the eagles
next time I'll post a game of thrones episode guide
Quote from: ice grillin you on August 31, 2017, 08:31:34 PM
you'd have to actually care about the eagles to read about the eagles
next time I'll post a game of thrones episode guide
You think that's reading about the Eagles? It's basically football fan-fiction.
Quote from: Zanshin on August 31, 2017, 09:42:41 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on August 31, 2017, 08:31:34 PM
you'd have to actually care about the eagles to read about the eagles
next time I'll post a game of thrones episode guide
You think that's reading about the Eagles? It's basically football fan-fiction.
love to hear about all the in depth real places you read about the eagles....
Yeah, yeah, we get it. You're the iggle-est iggles fan who ever iggled.
Quote from: ice grillin you on August 31, 2017, 11:15:41 PM
Quote from: Zanshin on August 31, 2017, 09:42:41 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on August 31, 2017, 08:31:34 PM
you'd have to actually care about the eagles to read about the eagles
next time I'll post a game of thrones episode guide
You think that's reading about the Eagles? It's basically football fan-fiction.
love to hear about all the in depth real places you read about the eagles....
Certainly not from your dumbass
Quote from: Sgt PSN on August 31, 2017, 11:42:36 PM
Yeah, yeah, we get it. You're the iggle-est iggles fan who ever iggled.
im not anything but I care about real life sports more than you all care about tv comic books
Quote from: Tomahawk on September 01, 2017, 12:02:58 AM
Quote from: ice grillin you on August 31, 2017, 11:15:41 PM
Quote from: Zanshin on August 31, 2017, 09:42:41 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on August 31, 2017, 08:31:34 PM
you'd have to actually care about the eagles to read about the eagles
next time I'll post a game of thrones episode guide
You think that's reading about the Eagles? It's basically football fan-fiction.
love to hear about all the in depth real places you read about the eagles....
Certainly not from your dumbass
aka not from anywhere
Quote from: ice grillin you on September 01, 2017, 12:39:09 AM
Quote from: Sgt PSN on August 31, 2017, 11:42:36 PM
Yeah, yeah, we get it. You're the iggle-est iggles fan who ever iggled.
im not anything but I care about real life sports more than you all care about tv comic books
And? Is there a point to this?
News flash...there is no meaning. It's a construct. Made up. No point, no purpose, no meaning. To this board, or anything else, anywhere, ever.
That's like speaking zen to deaf ears, or something.
The injury to Cyrus Jones, setting him aside for the entire season, may push Rowe into enough playing time to bump the pick from a fourth round to a third rounder.
Washington has cut Matt Jones
Phillip Dorsett traded to NE for Jacoby Brisette
I hate that trade for the Colts. Can everyone just stop trading with the Patriots unless you are really really sure about what you're doing?
Chargers kicker is some dude named Younghoe Koo
Imagine the Eagles fan base if they traded up in the second for a kicker who was out of the league in a year.
the eagles cut their 5th round pick...their other 5th rd pick might not make it and their 4th might not either
Bengals fired their OC and named ex Eagles coach Bill Lazor as replacement
Saints are looking to trade Kenny Vaccaro
jerrah might not allow for a goodell extension after the zeke thing
what a way for ol rog to go out
Normally I like Richard Sherman, but he's trying to farg up a good thing here.
QuoteSeattle Seahawks cornerback Richard Sherman took issue Wednesday with the NFL's injury reports, saying their purpose is to better inform gamblers on how to bet games.
"From what I understand, the rule is for the gamblers, for Vegas, to make sure that the odds and everything are what they're supposed to be, which is apparently what the league is concerned about when talking about injuries and things like that," Sherman said. "So maybe somebody should look into that, because I thought we weren't a gambling league and we were against all those things. But our injury report is specifically to make sure the gamblers get their odds right."
I'm not usually real big on piling on the trump hate wagon. But this is too precious
Quote
Trump to NFL owners: Fire players who don't stand for the national anthem
President Trump today called on NFL owners to cut any players who don't stand for the national anthem, the strongest statement yet from the president about the anthem protests that began last year with Colin Kaepernick and have since grown to include players on several teams.
"We're proud of our country. We respect our flag," Trump said to loud applause at a campaign event in Alabama. "Wouldn't you love to see one of these NFL owners, when somebody disrespects our flag, to say, 'Get that son of a bitch off the field right now'? He's fired! He's fired!"
Trump said an NFL owner who releases a player would instantly gain broad support across America.
"Some owner's gonna do that. He's gonna say, 'That guy that disrespects our flag? He's fired. And that owner . . . they'll be the most popular person in this country. Because that's total disrespect of our heritage. That's total disrespect of everything we stand for," Trump said.
Trump added that he believes fans should walk out if players don't stand for the anthem.
"If you see it, even if it's one player," Trump said, "Leave the stadium."
I mean, how each example of blithering idiocy and non sequitur outshines the next, and in such a short span no less, is prodigious. Brilliant!
Ha ha, you said, "prodigious". :-D That's not even a real word! LMFAO. It looks and sounds made up.
Because of people like you, it's no wonder America has become the worst thing since unsliced bread. Can't wait for Trump to make America great again...so I don't have to see stupid big words like 'prodigious'.
*Please note the incorrect use of quotation marks.
That's a direct quote from Nostradamus, dummy. He said that about Trump like 100 years ago. Also, blithering.
The only way to watch this Ravens/Jags game is to stream it through Yahoo? What a crock of shtein
it was a great game sucks you missed it
Down to two undefeated teams already (Chiefs and Falcons).
Giants are the only winless team not in Ohio or California.
Jags lead the NFL in point differential.
Attn Jerry Jones - if Zeke is suspended
QuoteLAS VEGAS -- A plan is in place for O.J. Simpson to be released on parole as early as Monday from a facility near Las Vegas, a Nevada prisons official says
http://baltimore.cbslocal.com/2017/09/26/ravens-national-anthem-singer-resigning/
QuoteSpeaking with WJZ's Vic Carter, Odoms says as a member of the military, he is not offended by the players' actions but did not want to get mixed up in the controversial discussion.
"I support the protest personally — I fought for that right, but I don't like people using people like me to attack those people who are exercising their right."
He went on to say "If I express how I feel, a segment of the fanbase would attack me."
The Ravens had a single, dedicated person to sing it? Like every week?
Yes. He's good. And in Baltimore, the crowds shout "Oh!" before "..... say can you see...", --- Francis Scott Key wrote the anthem here during the way of 1812, the baseball team is the Orioles..you get it---which throws the cadence off for the unitiated singer.
I don't get it. Please explain further.
Gladly:
Baltimore >>> Florida.
That is clearly correct.
Lol. I never knew that the Ravens used the same person for every home game. That's cool, but also kind of odd.
They don't anymore; dook quit
Now it's back to whoever won the Howard County Fair singing and dancing competition.
Quote from: Sgt PSN on September 28, 2017, 11:37:16 PM
Lol. I never knew that the Ravens used the same person for every home game. That's cool, but also kind of odd.
Whoever books the special events for home games must be pissed about this. Now they actually have to go out and find an act every game instead of just coasting.
I was wondering what Fitz's numbers would be against the Eagles next week - maybe 11/215/3?
But then I saw his OT TD catch today and gotta think 0/0/0, the way his head slammed against the turf. I haven't been able to find anything on the interwebs about if he got a concussion but I'd be surprised if he didn't. Anyone else hear anything yet?
Carr out 2-6 weeks...hopefully this buries them so they have nothing to play for xmas night
Brandon Weeden has another NFL job
But no Kap
Watt probably tore his patella tendon and is taking an ambulance ride
Can't stay healthy anymore
https://m.facebook.com/starr.sherrod/posts/10159563611860089
Dolphins OL coach snorting lines
I love that last 'line'.
Watt done for the year.
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on October 08, 2017, 11:29:12 PM
https://m.facebook.com/starr.sherrod/posts/10159563611860089
Dolphins OL coach snorting lines
It's South Beach. Dafuq else you think people doing down there? That's basically the Miami equivalent of Joel Embiid tweeting about eating a cheesesteak.
I'll never stop being surprised by people recording themselves doing illegal shtein....nothing beneficial could come from it.
Quote from: Tomahawk on October 09, 2017, 01:11:22 PM
I'll never stop being surprised by people recording themselves doing illegal shtein....nothing beneficial could come from it.
endless internet mocking is very beneficial, sir !!
Quote from: Tomahawk on October 09, 2017, 01:11:22 PM
I'll never stop being surprised by people recording themselves doing illegal shtein....nothing beneficial could come from it.
I'm still surprised girls send nude picks. I have quite the collection. Usually the one month mark the nude pics start. Used to block out their faces but now they just say farg it.
Cousin Sal said the OL coach was trying to bring back the spirit of the Dan Marino Fins.
Saints traded AP to the Cards for a conditional draft pick.
Makes sense for both teams
The Cards will probably suck regardless but I guess a desperation move makes sense if this is going to be the last rodeo for Fitz and Palmer.
AP won't play much longer either.
The Cards O line is horrendous
https://www.uninterrupted.com/watch/3VceYXfI/jg-josh-gordon
Is he getting his shtein together and doing what he needs to do, or is this the next phase of the lie? When you're dealing with an addict you always have to assume it's the latter, even though I'm sure the emotions are real. Sad to see someone who literally pissed away his life.
He may play again at some point, but he hasn't been a difference-maker on an NFL field since 2013 and I think it's too late for that to change.
he basically performs fellatio on goodell in the documentary....it's clearly a phoney desperate attempt to get back in
this dude is inimitable
(https://i.imgur.com/TteSwH1.jpg)
Haha. That's awesome.
martavias bryant wants out......eagles should definitely inquire
he wants out so he can play a big role
i mean i think theres some serious talent there to warrant that but you could just opening yourself up to the same attitude problems. seems like him going to the jets, jags, browns or some other team with no skill position talent makes the most sense if he is indeed dealt.
dan snyder: something repugnant
bob mcnair: hold my beer
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Oh...wow.
Substitute inmates and prison for slaves and plantation and there you have it.
Deandre Hopkins ain't no inmate.
https://www.si.com/nfl/2017/10/27/texans-players-deandre-hopkins-practice-bob-mcnair-quote
QuoteInmates, slaves and products. That's all we are to the owners and others. Not grown men with families, kids, wives, values, and morals.
Cecil Shorts III hit it out of the park. And honestly, he could have said the same thing about corporate America and every other profession out there, private or public. We're farging grist for the mill.
Quote from: Rome on October 27, 2017, 08:11:17 PM
QuoteInmates, slaves and products. That's all we are to the owners and others. Not grown men with families, kids, wives, values, and morals.
Cecil Shorts III hit it out of the park. And honestly, he could have said the same thing about corporate America and every other profession out there, private or public. We're farging grist for the mill.
Quit hating on capitalism and the "free" market or people won't think your USA chants are sincere
bills now have 20 picks in the next two drafts....and 12 picks in the first four rounds
Did they hire Hinkie?
http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/21206250/dallas-cowboys-jerry-jones-owners-trying-hijack-roger-goodell-proposed-contract-extension
Bears TE Zack Miller was/is facing the very real possibility that he will suffer leg amputation from a football injury.
https://mobile.twitter.com/ChicagoBears/status/925054129004797952?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Etweet
That injury was nasty. And the refs stole a TD from him to boot
Texans get Jeremy Lane, 2018 5th and 2019 2nd
Seattle gets Duane Brown
shtein
we didn't need the seahawks patching up their glaring weakness
Wow
Niners just dealt a 2018 2nd for Garrapolo
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on October 30, 2017, 08:20:57 PM
Wow
Niners just dealt a 2018 2nd for Garrapolo
They must be on crack
Does John Lynch keep his job long enough to not use the 2nd rd pick he just traded away?
I think that's a good deal for SF
NE could've had more from CLE. Bill must hate them with a passion
Cousins potential destination
Jets
Jags
Browns
Cards
Broncos
I enjoy Simmons (in doses) but it's going to be amazing to watch him spin this. He is spectactular at overrating his teams' players and assets and then backtracking and justifying trades once they're made.
Two weeks ago he says on his podcast he wouldn't trade Garoppolo for TWO first round picks. Instead they get a single second round pick. By tomorrow it'll be an amazing trade.
Patriots gonna sign Kap?
Or Hoyer.
Kraft donated 1mil to Trump's inauguration and Tom Brady has a MAGA hat in his locker. They'll probably sign you to be their back up before Kap.
Make sure you get an errands clause in your contract.
There's a better chance the Pats sign Teo nesheim than there is them signing Kap
If I were BB, I'd ask for Kap.
Rumor is that it's gonna be Brian Hoyer, who played 3 years for the Pats and was just dropped by the Niners. Rapoport says the only reason he wasn't included in the trade was the compensatory pick implications.
Browns doing Browns things, missed out on a trade for AJ McCarron because they didn't confirm it in time.
Quote from: General_Failure on October 31, 2017, 08:11:00 PM
Browns doing Browns things, missed out on a trade for AJ McCarron because they didn't confirm it in time.
Best part of this is the reason why they didn't confirm it in time....they were too busy celebrating.
i don't believe any of that story
I think it was their way of backing out of it
So you're claiming #fakenewz?
no I believe someone with the league or one of the teams said or thinks that's what happened and that's what's being reported
guess we'll find out in the off-season cause if I'm wrong they will make the trade you would think
ian rappoport is the biggest douchenozzle ever
god damnit he sucks
Josh Gordon is "conditionally reinstated" by the NFL, could play like the last 5 games of the season.
from the highs of a world series to the lows of the best qb in the league tearing his acl
Which knee? The one that exploded in college? Could be the difference between 2018 MVP and RGIII career path.
Quote from: ice grillin you on November 02, 2017, 05:18:49 PM
from the highs of a world series to the lows of the best qb in the league tearing his acl
1003
Quote from: QB Eagles on November 02, 2017, 05:58:40 PM
Which knee? The one that exploded in college? Could be the difference between 2018 MVP and RGIII career path.
not the same knee
Relax, they signed Matt McGloin. Season saved.
I find it funny that so many athletes are sending prayers out to Watson. God has a plan. Trust in God.
Um, didn't God allow this to happen in the first place? Or more to the point, didn't he actually cause it to happen?
Deities sure are fickle and sadistic.
🙏😈
God wouldn't throw anything at you that you can't handle.
Rumors have started that Houston will be bringing in Kap for a workout and McNair signed off on it
Does anyone else smirk when they hear that Jon Runyan is scolding players about their behavior on the field.
Dude was pretty nasty.
nice profile of cowher
https://www.newsday.com/sports/football/bill-cowher-ex-steelers-coach-has-become-a-ny-kind-of-guy-1.14804192
Kinda weird story with Martellus Bennett. Said he was thinking about retiring after the season, then the Packers said he was injured, then they cut him citing failure to disclose injury.
https://deadspin.com/packers-cut-martellus-bennett-with-failure-to-disclose-1820274602
When did Trump buy the Packers?
Wow, Tyrod benched. Not exactly sure he was the problem with the Bills.
Yeah that is kinda surprising
he stinks and they are going nowhere but it still seems awfully early in the afc to do this
Quote from: ice grillin you on November 15, 2017, 10:40:10 AM
he stinks
He's a top 15-20 QB in the NFL. There are so many bad QBs that these statements don't contradict each other,though.
They must like what they are seeing from Peterman.
i thought peterman looked good in the eagles/bills preseason game. obviously considering the game and talent level it was nothing, but he was making some nice throws. a window is a window.
tyrod has now been benched by 2 different bills coaching staffs. im not sure hes a top 15-20 qb. hes better than whoever the browns are starting, but other than that, youre really splitting hairs. is he better than josh mccown? wouldnt you rather have garopollo, who at least has big upside?
Quote from: QB Eagles on November 15, 2017, 01:16:00 PM
He's a top 15-20 QB in the NFL.
i personally wouldnt have done it but its not because tyrod taylor is around the 17th best qb in the nfl....i mean he is worthless is never taking you anywhere and is probably gone after this season
but at least on record you still have a really legit shot at the playoffs and bringing in a rookie 5th rounder this soon seems like a bad idea in terms of messaging to your team and fans
go noles!
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2017/11/17/report-nfl-investigating-jameis-winston-for-allegedly-groping-an-uber-driver/
Why would Larry Fitzgerald sign an extension with the Cardinals? He's only playing for a championship at this point and unless they're hiding a QB somewhere, the Cards aren't going next year either.
$11 million more dollars maybe?
He could put that towards a masters degree. Or making another $11 million from commercials about getting a masters degree.
I don't know if he's taken up permanent residence in AZ or not, but maybe he's comfy there and doesn't want to disrupt his home life. Or maybe he's smart enough to realize that even if he signs elsewhere, the odds of him winning a SB are still stacked against him even if he signs with an odds on favorite. His player legacy is set. A SB win in his twilight doesn't change much.
Raiders are still looking for that first interception of the year. They failed to intercept Marcus Mariota, Josh McCown, Kirk Cousins, Trevor Siemian, Joe Flacco, Philip Rivers, Alex Smith, Tyrod Taylor, and Jay Cutler.
Interesting prop bet would be which week the Raiders get their first pick. I found +150 odds of them getting a pick this week playing New England in Mexico City. Then they are home against Brock Osweiler and Eli Manning. If they can't get a pick either of those two weeks, they are in real trouble. They end the season with a brutal stretch against the Chiefs, Cowboys, Eagles, and Chargers.
That's pretty amazing they don't have a pick yet. You'd think they would've lucked into a tipped pick or something
gruden to the bucs rumors starting to fly
im fine with this. hes bad on mnf and the game has probably passed him by, so he can go 7-9 for an irrelevant team.
not sure if hes what espn wants but chip would be really good in the booth
Quote from: MDS on November 18, 2017, 06:52:27 PM
not sure if hes what espn wants but chip would be really good in the booth
I feel like they go Rex Ryan. Won't be long before we miss the halcyon days of Gruden.
my hope is that romo is going to be a game changer for how networks make this hires. rex has been terrible on countdown and was terrible on that late mnf game in week 1.
chip is super smart, engaging and quick. he cant coach at the nfl level but id be he could talk about it. hes also a complete football nerd which is what you need in that role. the only thing he might not have is the energy level romo and collinsworth bring.
If Chip can slow down his talking speed he might be decent. That said, I don't want him on tv in any capacity.
i dont believe espn or any network will be making decisions based off the feelings of butt hurt philly fans. i might be wrong, though.
They don't? That's hard to believe.
My two choices for 1:00:
Bucs-Dolphins
Jaguars-Browns
Yay Florida!
Could have been worse....you could have had Chiefs/Giants.
I had Ravens-Packers. farg both of you.
sean mcdermott has to be fired tonight right?
No chance they fire him but what a bonehead move on his part. And their defense has been dismantled multiple times.
5/16 AFC teams will have a winning record after the games today
Also Washington will go another season without winning more than 10 games. They've not eclipsed that total since 1991. Every other NFL team has done so.
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on November 19, 2017, 06:48:45 PM
5/16 AFC teams will have a winning record after the games today
one team from each conference makes the superbowl
Possibly more damning is that the 3 seed is QBed by Blake Bortles.
Quote from: QB Eagles on November 19, 2017, 07:22:24 PM
Possibly more damning is that the 3 seed is QBed by Blake Bortles.
this will definitely matter when new england or pittsburgh wins the superbowl
Broncos fired OC Mike McCoy.
SOFT!!
alex okafor out for the year
Quote from: Rome on November 20, 2017, 12:23:54 PM
SOFT!!
He was too soft to teach Brock Osweiler how to throw.
Nm
so i just saw dre kirkpatrick had a 101 yd interception return not for a touchdown
Robert Woods could miss the eagle game
The Paxton Lynch era is dawning in Denver.
This era will most likely be sunsetting on Dec. 31.
I have a feeling Cousins ends up in Denver
No idea where he ends up, but I feel like Jacksonville is the team that is closest to being a QB away from being a serious threat.
I wonder if Minnesota could be a dark horse candidate too. Feels like they already have six QBs though.
Crazy talk but....How long is Eli secure? Giants sign Cousins and the rest of the NFC East would curse.
Quote from: Diomedes on November 21, 2017, 08:57:59 PM
How long is Eli secure?
Not crazy talk at all. He's cooked. If he didn't have a no-trade clause, he'd be gone after the season for sure.
Unless he wants to be gone, which is doubtful, they are stuck either keeping him or eating a bunch of dead cap space. So look for them to draft his successor in the 2018 draft and have Eli play the starter/vet mentor role next season. Next year will be a rebuilding year with a new coach anyway.
I agree with JAX
They could also trade for Eli. Twilight of his career and he ends with Coughlin
I also think Arizona and Miami are potential spots for Cousins
anything is possible but i cant imagine a scenario where dan snyder lets a player go much less a top qb because of money.....id be shocked if he wasnt signed long term by washington but at the very least they will tag him again
Maybe they'll fall in love with another qb in the draft and decide to ruin his career instead.
Quote from: ice grillin you on November 22, 2017, 08:06:30 AM
anything is possible but i cant imagine a scenario where dan snyder lets a player go much less a top qb because of money.....id be shocked if he wasnt signed long term by washington but at the very least they will tag him again
So Art, tell us, how many times does Snyder have to farg up before you stop idolizing him?
im idolizing him because i think he doesnt have a problem spending money to keep or acquire a player?
that doesnt even make sense....but thats something you are consistently good at
No you idolize him because you love the taterskins and you're the biggest homer they have. You're the only one who doesn't realize or accept that, IGY.
Denial is a wonderful thing.
im sure i am....i mean the best part of having eagle season tickets is getting to see a washington game every year....but how does thinking they wont let cousins walk make anyone a homer
they have paid him 45 million in the last 24 months to keep him...now they are just gonna be like peace out?....maybe im wrong but i just dont see it
They're not paying him $34M for the franchise tag nor are they risking giving him $28M to only get a third back in the transition tag.
But you're right... the way the taterskins do business, they might just be the one team stupid enough to do so.
I'd think that if he wanted to pay him they would have done so previously, no?
Quote from: Rome on November 22, 2017, 09:26:17 AM
They're not paying him $34M for the franchise tag nor are they risking giving him $28M to only get a third back in the transition tag.
But you're right... the way the taterskins do business, they might just be the one team stupid enough to do so.
you know they can sign him long term as well
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on November 22, 2017, 09:30:04 AM
I'd think that if he wanted to pay him they would have done so previously, no?
not necessarily...they had the best of both worlds the last two years....they get cousins at the price of a long term deal without having to commit 75 mil of guaranteed money and you get to evaluate him without being in balls deep to him
none of what happened previously matters tho....the question now is will a team let one of the best qb's in the league in his prime just walk...i cant see any team much less washington letting that happen in todays nfl
lol cousins is one of the best qbs in the league
hes going to be paid like it but hes not the 2nd best qb in his own division
not sure why that is lol
hes easily top ten but i guess thats not one of the best in the league when you are a raging homer
undeniably better than cuzzo: wentz, rodgers, stafford, brees, newton, ryan, wilson, brady, rberger, luck, watson, carr, rivers
higher ceiling than cuzzo: prescott, bridgewater, garropolo, goff, mariota
interchangeable with cuzzo: dalton, smith
IMO garbage but one could make the argument theyre going to be better than cuzzo: winston, trubisky
not as good as cuzzo: cutler/tannehill, browns trifecta, broncos trifecta, mccown, bortles, flacco, palmer, taylor, eli
top ten!
Cousins reminds me of Romo in the sense that there's like 3 or 4 games a year where he looks all world, a game or 2 where he looks absolutely terrible, and the rest of the time he's just as likely to farg something up as he is to not farg up. I don't know if it's him or coaching/play calling or both, but he seems more like a guy who can occasionally be great and can consistently be frustrating.
Quote from: Sgt PSN on November 22, 2017, 10:08:13 AM
Cousins reminds me of Romo in the sense that there's like 3 or 4 games a year where he looks all world, a game or 2 where he looks absolutely terrible, and the rest of the time he's just as likely to farg something up as he is to not farg up. I don't know if it's him or coaching/play calling or both, but he seems more like a guy who can occasionally be great and can consistently be frustrating.
welcome to just about every qb in the nfl other than maybe tom brady drew bees and (http://philaflavaforum.com//forum/images/smilies/icon_twrex_ROFLburger.gif)
cam newton sucked last year....andrew luck has sucked for a couple years...who doesnt suck at times....but look at the numbers the last four years and if you dont have couysins in your top 10 then you are an idiot
Quote from: MDS on November 22, 2017, 09:59:05 AM
undeniably better than cuzzo: wentz, rodgers, stafford, brees, newton, ryan, wilson, brady, rberger, luck, watson, carr, rivers
higher ceiling than cuzzo: prescott, bridgewater, garropolo, goff, mariota
interchangeable with cuzzo: dalton, smith
IMO garbage but one could make the argument theyre going to be better than cuzzo: winston, trubisky
not as good as cuzzo: cutler/tannehill, browns trifecta, broncos trifecta, mccown, bortles, flacco, palmer, taylor, eli
lolol....stop talking football....the eagles being good has warped your mind...you wanna be a god awful homer go ahead but cease talking about anything else....youve lost it
also you used to destroy matthew stafford now hes the bestest
Quote from: MDS on November 22, 2017, 09:38:36 AM
lol cousins is one of the best qbs in the league
hes going to be paid like it but hes not the 2nd best qb in his own division
I'd take him over Dak. He's been better or just as good with no running game, O line, or stud WRs. Washington would be smart to sign him long term and give him weapons but they're Washington so they'll probably insult him, trade him for a pick, then sign the biggest FAs on the market.
garropolo very well could be worse than me but hes a great unknown right now. we know what cousins is. he puts up stats. he takes horrible game killing grounding penalties. he loses to case keenum at home.
stafford is on the lower end of that list but hes at least won a meaningful game here or there unlike cuzzo
you are blindly claiming cuzzo to be this top 10 qb with no evidence. what exactly has he accomplished. who has he beat.
Cousins' greatest accomplishment to date is that he put the final nail in Chip's coffin.
In Chip's defense he didn't have total player control to pick who he wanted so....
Quote from: Sgt PSN on November 22, 2017, 10:40:50 AM
Cousins' greatest accomplishment to date is that he put the final nail in Chip's coffin.
chip was gone by then....really his career ended the year before when he lost to that horrible team qb'ed by rg3
Chip was gone after the season regardless, but that Washington game expedited things. Cousins played a big part in it. I like that.
so in 6 seasons his greatest accomplishment is getting a terrible coach fired one week earlier than he was going to anyway.
can anyone think of a better kirk cousins game/accomplishment/moment than that. im listening. top ten qb, baby.
Kirk Cousins is not getting $34M for a year of football. Just stop it, all of you.
Quote from: Rome on November 22, 2017, 10:52:43 AM
Kirk Cousins is not getting $34M for a year of football. Just stop it, all of you.
As absurd as the idea of Kirk Cousins being paid $34mil for 1 year of football, it's equally absurd to think that Snyder wouldn't actually do it.
If anyone would do something that monumentally stupid, it would be Danny Boy, but I can't see even him do that. It would be totally insane, Sassy.
He gave $100 mil contract to Albert Haynesworth.
Now seems an appropriate time to trot out this gem:
Quote
ExtremeSkins Fan View: Cap Hell Rocks!
By Arthur Mills
ExtremeSkins.com
March 16, 2006
Don't hate us because we're beautiful.
No more blank, wondering stares, confused head scratching, frothing emotional outbursts, conspiracy theories or embarrassing, dismissive references to 2000. The Washington taterskins are the central theme of every NFL team message board out there. Here's a message to you all from all ExtremeSkins fans everywhere.
It's time to embrace the reality of it all. Simply, we're better than you.
That's it. Look no further. We are better than you. We're more fun. It feels better to be us. We've got flair. We're audacious, capricious, bodacious, supercalifragilisticxpalidocious.
Are you finally getting it?
Yes, yes, I know cap hell was supposed to be upon us. I know that's what you've been told. I feel for you, I really do. As you come to realize we're better than you, a second bit of stark reality must also penetrate. We're smarter than them.
Repeat after me.
The Washington taterskins are managed, coached and owned by highly professional people who know more about running a football franchise than ALL the unnamed, anonymous sources any reporter has yanked from the broom closet and quoted.
Don't take my word for it. Take the following words for it.
Brandon Lloyd, Antwaan Randle El, Adam Archuleta, Andre Carter, Todd Collins, Christian Fauria.
The question you all should be asking isn't, "How is all this possible?" No. The question should be, "How didn't we know this was all possible?"
Six years of assurances cap hell was on the way and you still allowed yourself to believe the tripe. Perhaps busting the cap hell myth as it relates to the Washington taterskins is just too painful a thing for media and fans of other teams to do.
Like a child coming to the harsh knowledge Santa doesn't exist, the media and opposing teams' fans are struggling desperately to hang on to the fiction that cap hell is on the way for the taterskins despite--literally--YEARS of demonstrated contrary evidence.
Here's the best part.
You don't have to hate us for what we're doing. You can do it, too.
"The thing I want to emphasize is this: We haven't done one thing that anybody else can't do," Joe Gibbs said after the introductory press conference for Andre Carter. "We have certain rules in the league. Here's the cap, here's the numbers, here's what you can spend, so everybody in the league can do what we're doing, it's just that they choose not to, many of them."
Deep down, this is really the issue, isn't it? You can do it too and you know it, but, your team doesn't do it, so, you have a hard choice. Hate your team, or hate us.
Say you're a fan of the Philadelphia Eagles. You always have all those many millions available, which somehow never seem to get spent. All week you're hearing how you have LeCharles Bentley locked up as your free agent masterstroke to solidify your offensive line.
You are giddy. You're thrilled. You know this is the guy you need. He fills a need and makes it a strength. You're excited about the prospects of adding such a substantial piece. Then, the Cleveland Browns call, offer a few more bucks to Bentley and Bentley winds up in Cleveland leaving you with nothing more than whimpering excuses that Bentley is from Cleveland and always wanted to play there.
Oh, hush.
Antwaan Randle El is from Chicago. He's always wanted to play there. Yet he's playing in D.C. Adam Archuleta admits he adores Lovie Smith after years playing for him with St. Louis and wanted to play with him in Chicago. Yet he's playing in D.C. Andre Carter just had to meet the Broncos because his father played there 12 years and he envisioned being the second generation of his family with the team. Yet he's playing in D.C.
And it's driving you crazy because you were so excited and thrilled about the prospects of adding a good player your management and owner can't figure out how to land while we get EVERY single player we shoot at.
We get to actually live the thrill and giddiness you only get to brush up against. And it's killing you.
Did we pay a premium for generally young players entering their prime with years left to play in the NFL? You bet we did. Kind of like when the Eagles lock up their own young players for a premium before they really emerge on the scene and everyone calls that genius. Think of it like that, only, with the component of actually being smart because an expensive 24-year-old promising receiver suddenly becomes a very cheap 26-year-old receiver when he grabs 80 balls.
See, we already had good players under contract. Now we have more.
As you struggle to find words to describe the coming cap doom heading our way, try to process one final thought. When you have that free agent you need all lined up and you don't get him, well, isn't that really what cap hell feels like?
I wouldn't know, because I don't ever have to feel that way
It's always fun to read that.
So it's been quite a few years since I've visited ES. I didn't know that they became part of the actual racists website. I also don't remember them having a "ring of honor" for dead posters. The upkeep on that thread is lacking.
http://es.taterskins.com/topic/307604-in-memory-of/
wonder how the dead tree crew is doing.
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remember that hahafunny guy and that other guy who became religious because of Coach Gibbs
that was one of my better troll jobs
i feel like trumpers ruined all of this for everyone. once youve seen the lowest of the lows of humanity, some idiot thinking joe gibbs was touched by a coaching angel and is going to win a super bowl with patrick ramsey because jesus wanted it that way doesnt seem that bad.
Quote from: ice grillin you on November 22, 2017, 08:37:50 AM
im sure i am....i mean the best part of having eagle season tickets is getting to see a washington game every year....but how does thinking they wont let cousins walk make anyone a homer
they have paid him 45 million in the last 24 months to keep him...now they are just gonna be like peace out?....maybe im wrong but i just dont see it
As long as the Eagles beat those corksuckers, yes.
Quote from: Sgt PSN on November 22, 2017, 10:08:13 AM
Cousins reminds me of Romo in the sense that there's like 3 or 4 games a year where he looks all world, a game or 2 where he looks absolutely terrible, and the rest of the time he's just as likely to farg something up as he is to not farg up. I don't know if it's him or coaching/play calling or both, but he seems more like a guy who can occasionally be great and can consistently be frustrating.
I don't think Cousins has ever had as good a team around him as Romo, or receivers like Bryant and Whitten, so I'd say although he might remind you of Romo, he's much better.
https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/good-news-browns-your-chances-of-making-the-playoffs-are-only-1-in-19-quintillion/?addata=espn:frontpage
Holy shtein. This is amazing.
(http://www.quickmeme.com/img/dc/dc2fd6da2c741a3b2f6ae5fcf700e06fafe43267ea271579118ef4292ffb25c6.jpg)
I read a similar article the other day. In order for the Browns to make the playoffs, they need 46 very specific things to happen.
Obviously they'll be eliminated this weekend so it doesn't really matter, but it's pretty nuts that an 0-10 team still hasn't mathematically been eliminated from the playoffs yet. Sad.
Darrelle Revis, Kansas City Chief
desperation move
Yeah, I think Revis Island got hit by Irma.
hahaha
What happened to that guy? Why was he not in the league anymore? How long has it been since we've heard that name?
Quote from: hbionic on November 22, 2017, 06:48:37 PM
What happened to that guy?
He got old and injured.
QuoteWhy was he not in the league anymore?
Because he isn't very good anymore.
QuoteHow long has it been since we've heard that name?
Probably about 6 months when idiots where starting Get Revis threads.
Thanks Sarge. ;D
Quote from: shorebird on November 22, 2017, 12:29:09 PM
Quote from: Sgt PSN on November 22, 2017, 10:08:13 AM
Cousins reminds me of Romo in the sense that there's like 3 or 4 games a year where he looks all world, a game or 2 where he looks absolutely terrible, and the rest of the time he's just as likely to farg something up as he is to not farg up. I don't know if it's him or coaching/play calling or both, but he seems more like a guy who can occasionally be great and can consistently be frustrating.
I don't think Cousins has ever had as good a team around him as Romo, or receivers like Bryant and Whitten, so I'd say although he might remind you of Romo, he's much better.
much better is an extreme take...also cuzzo had pimp jordan reed and garcon....sarge makes a good comparison... both romo and cuzzo are top nfl qb's who never won anything...like 50 million other nfl qb's
romo won 2 playoff game is revolutionizing color analyzing
cousins beat chip kelly a few times
Quote from: MDS on November 22, 2017, 11:33:15 PM
romo won 2 playoff game is revolutionizing color analyzing
cousins beat chip kelly a few times
your hero has beaten no one
yea he shouldve won 4 super bowls and 5 mvps by now. step it up, wentz
these next two weeks in the nfc are nuts.....its almost a mini round robin tournament among the contenders
this week
minnesota at atlanta
carolina at new orleans
birds at seattle
next week**
new orleans at atlanta
minnesota at carolina
birds at rams
**seattle at jacksonville - not part of the round robin but a tough game
The whole rest of the Falcons and Seahawks schedules are basically nuts.
The round robin is the only thing keeping the Lions alive. Their schedule is garbage. And they'll probably still blow it.
They should beat the Ravens, no?
Quote from: Diomedes on November 28, 2017, 05:44:16 PM
They should beat the Ravens, no?
IMO they are a slightly better team than the Ravens, but given HFA I think it's right that the Ravens are favored.
The Ravens might actually be the fourth best team in the AFC right now, but they would be one of the worst teams in the NFC. I'm not sure they would beat the Cardinals in a neutral location. That drop off after the top two AFC teams is crazy.
The Lions are such a cursed franchise they can't even blow up a stadium right.
That stadium has built up a tolerance for implosions.
first time seeing the vikings defense....they are really impressive
man are the lions a bunch of dogs
goodell got his extension. im sure trump and jerry jones love this.
Finally Jerry Jones takes a knee. In the nut sack.
$200M for a guy who has pretty much made every wrong choice during his tenure.
Hard to believe, Harry.
If the players don't like it they have the power to do something about it
I want to hate this, but since Jerrah has been fighting it, I'm going ALL IN on it. Heil Rog!
Browns shteincanned Sashi Brown and hired John Dorsey
nm
Kenny Britt is gonna win a Super Bowl this year.
Quote from: Diomedes on December 12, 2017, 05:40:11 PM
Kenny Britt is gonna win a Super Bowl this year.
The Eagles just signed Britt?
QuoteSpeaking to reporters for the first time since a four-game suspension for performance-enhancing drugs, New York Jets wide receiver Jeremy Kerley provided a rather unusual answer when asked how the drugs got into his system. Previously, he denied any wrongdoing.
"I don't know," Kerley told reporters on Wednesday, according to NorthJersey.com. "There's a lot of ghosts around here. Ghost put it in there. You know, the ghost of Christmas past? ... I don't know."
Ghost put it in there.
Jerry Richardson is selling the Panthers in light of the story about his harassment
Great, that opens up the possibility of Dan Snyder finally buying an NFL franchise.
The Patriots banned Brady's quack guru from a bunch of team facilities.
Quote from: General_Failure on December 17, 2017, 08:16:40 PM
Great, that opens up the possibility of Dan Snyder finally buying an NFL franchise.
No way I want Snyder out of the division. The tag team of he and Jerry taking it in turn to parade their buffoonery across the NFL and national stage is one of the best things the Eagles have going for them.
Underrated because it's just a kicker but the Rams lost Legatron for the year.
I would dance a jig if I learned that Snyder was out somehow. He's a pig. It would be bad news for the Eagles in a way, but the guy is just an awful human being who should go away.
James Harrison cut.
Someone in the hunt with need for an edge rusher on obvious passing downs is gonna look hard at him. KC?
no
he was awful three years ago
he's worthless now
The way they used him this season was truly weird. Wasn't really a player but he'd kinda make cameos in games from time to time.
Putting the same player on IR twice without a new injury breaks NFL rules and is supposed to result in the player being automatically released to waivers by the team. The NFL will obviously look the other way on Aaron Rodgers, but it's kind of an amateur hour move by the Packers.
is it a rule or a "rule"
if he got released hed have to go through waivers and i guess cleveland would have first pick?
teams do it all the time its not a real rule
it just happens to be aaron rodgers this time
the nfl is a really dumb league
teams can put players who arent injured on IR but you cant put someone on it twice for an actual injury
if theres one number thats ever wrapped up the awfulness of the new nfl in a tight little bow its that alex smith threw for over 4000 yards this year
Quote from: ice grillin you on December 23, 2017, 04:19:17 PM
no
he was awful three years ago
he's worthless now
Bill Belichick says hi!
this is a jedi mind trick trolling of pittsburgh signing by bellicheck in case they meet in the afcc....cant imagine he gets a single snap in the playoffs
K buddy.
I can see it now, somehow Harrison gets in for one series because of injury, sacks rapistberger and strips the ball, then runs in for the winning TD.
AFCCG and he will smoke Big Ben for a fumble bc everything NE touches is gold
the move means nothing...harrison is old and worthless. but its making yinzers mad so its worth it.
thanks for the info.
just saw a crazy ass stat
the chiefs have not had a qb they drafted win a game for them in over 30 years
Quote from: ice grillin you on December 27, 2017, 02:10:41 PM
just saw a crazy ass stat
the chiefs have not had a qb they drafted win a game for them in over 30 years
I didn't realize it was that long, but I remember people talking about it when I was living out there, which was 10 years ago now.
It was a big part of the Mahomes hype that swept KC during the preseason.
Quote from: Diomedes on December 23, 2017, 03:58:30 PM
James Harrison cut.
Someone in the hunt with need for an edge rusher on obvious passing downs is gonna look hard at him. KC?
Sounds like he was cancering it up in the Steelers locker room (http://www.espn.com/blog/pittsburgh-steelers/post/_/id/26682/why-the-james-harrison-time-bomb-blew-in-steelers-locker-room). Bitter old bastich who couldn't handle not being the man anymore.
QuoteWatching Steelers football was once a family tradition, but Jim Colletti now spends his Sundays doing other things, like tossing the football with his son.
Watching Steelers football was once a family tradition, but Jim Colletti now spends his Sundays doing other things, like tossing the football with his son.
I sat down to watch Week 3, Steelers vs. the Bears, and that was when the Steelers didn't come out for the national anthem. As soon as I saw that, I turned off my TV. I had been getting disenfranchised with the NFL for a few years, because every year you have guys getting suspended for drugs, for domestic abuse, and I'm like O.K., do I really want to support this organization? When the Steelers didn't come out for the anthem, even though they weren't protesting, they were still complicit in it. It was the tipping point for me. That's it. I don't need this anymore. The anthem is important and sacred to a lot of people and it is highly disrespectful for anyone to protest during the anthem. I think there are more respectful ways to get a message across.
When I was in college in 1994 I put myself on the Steelers season ticket waiting list and I finally got tickets in 2016. I went to the games last season, but I felt like it was a money grab. It's not cheap, it's like taking a mini vacation every time you go to the game, so I decided not to renew my season tickets for another year.
I'm kind of sad because my best memories as a kid were watching Steelers games with my dad. My mom always used to make a big Sunday dinner, and if dinner interfered with the Steelers game, we actually had a spot at our dinner table where we put this black and white TV. Almost literally, the Steelers were part of my family. Every spring when the Steelers schedule would come out, I'd load it into my phone calendar and I would make it a point to either go to the game or watch the game. I don't even know what the Steelers schedule is anymore because it is just not important to me.
I'm not out to ruin the NFL's business. I'm just one person who is choosing something else. I'm now watching more of the NHL, and spending Sundays with my kids. In our house the Steelers were 1A and the Penguins were 1B. Now, the Steelers have dropped way down and we are Pens fans in our house. Last year we went to a Stanley Cup finals game, and another game in the playoffs. The money that we used to spend on the NFL we are spending on the NHL.
I know it is not just me that feels this way. Every fall I go away to a hunting camp with a group of guys. In the past, we'd always find a bar in the nearest town and spend Sunday afternoon watching football. This year, nobody wanted to go into town to watch football. We just went hiking and nobody went in to watch football like we always had.
The only game I have watched since Week 2 was the Steelers-Bengals Week 13 Monday night football game. My son and I really didn't have anything else to do, so we turned it on. That game may have not been a good game to come back and watch because it was a really dirty game. Lots of unsportsmanlike conduct. Then you see the replays of the dirty hits and I'm just like, O.K., I wasted my time.
I'm not saying that I'll never watch the Steelers again, but they are a lower priority. I have no plans to watch any games the Steelers aren't involved in. If the Steelers are playing and I have something better to do, I won't be watching. I honestly found that life goes on without sitting in front of a TV on a Sunday afternoon in the fall.
https://www.si.com/nfl/2017/12/28/tv-ratings-cord-cutters-anthem-protests-redzone-streaming?utm_campaign=themmqb&utm_source=twitter.com&utm_medium=social
QuoteI had been getting disenfranchised with the NFL for a few years, because every year you have guys getting suspended for drugs, for domestic abuse, and I'm like O.K., do I really want to support this organization?
This is literally where I stopped reading.
I mean yeah. He's a yinzer, what do you expect?
USA! USA!
It makes no difference how many times they're told the protests aren't about the anthem or the flag or the military. The protestors have literally repeated themselves dozens of times. To guys like that it's as simple as black and white.
Those stillupfronts are disrespecting America by protesting and HOW DARE THEY after everything we've done for them?!?
They can wrap themselves in the flag all they want but in their heart of hearts, that's what it is and they will never farging admit it out loud much less to themselves.
Tampa Bay is reportedly keeping Dirk Koetter.
This is a mistake.
that is prompting oakland to go after him
if schwartz leaves the eagles have some good dc options: del rio, teryl austin, vic fangio. austin may get a hc job, but if not...
The late games should be interesting with all the playoff implications, but these early games are all brutal. Feels like preseason around the league. Only way we are getting drama is if Gronk or Brady gets injured, or if the Browns pull off the upset over the Steeler backups.
4th and 2 the Browns need to pick up to avoid 0-16.
Kizer escapes pressure and looks to be able to run the two yards, but instead passes downfield to Corey Coleman. Right through the hands in one of the most egregious drops I've seen. 0-16.
Horrible.
Coleman is the guy they took instead of Wentz by the way.
Pagano fired. Didn't even bother waiting for Black Monday to tell him to pack up his shtein.
In my view he has been a bottom 3 HC every season he's been in Indy. I even hated him that year he had cancer.
McCoy just carted off.
Wow. Imagine the excitement of the Titans and the Bills without McCoy making it into the wild card round.
Well, the Eagles won't see the Rams. Gonna be a South team.
Quote from: QB Eagles on December 31, 2017, 06:14:44 PM
Wow. Imagine the excitement of the Titans and the Bills without McCoy making it into the wild card round.
May not matter, because the Bengals are doing Bengals things.
... and Buffalo is imploding as well.
It's bad enough to be a Bills fan, but depending on Marvin Lewis has to be terrifying.
Holy balls! Unreal in Baltimore
Stunner. Wow.
Marv's final revenge after 15 years of disappointment. It's been real.
the bills!
lock in buffalo/jacksonville for the 430 saturday game. i wish it was in buffalo, but they will never host a playoff game again because brady will never die.
Everyone had Bills at Jaguars as a playoff game before the season right?
First time the Bills are in the playoffs since 1999, and it's gonna be without Shady, after a season they originally intended to tank, after they already shtein on their starting QB and effectively told him that he's done in Buffalo.
they decided not to give espn the worst game ever. wow.
Sat ESPN = TN @ KC
Sat NBC = ATL @ LAR
Sun early CBS = BUF @ JAX
Sun late FOX = CAR @ NO
according to the rules, this means the eagles should get the 800 saturday game
strike that i think eagles are getting 430 sunday now. or nbc is getting 2 primetime games and they go back to 100 sunday.
i dont know. im pretty sure its not 430 saturday. thats it.
there are no rules anymore as to which game goes where and with nbc being owed several favors for losing a game its just impossible to predict
i am confident in sunday: minnesota is the worst of the bye teams and appears headed for 430 saturday. there are no network DHs in the playoffs (there cant be), so that tells you the eagles are going sunday.
The Bengals game was nuts. I'm glad the Ravens lost after Hadbaughs whining this week
Cool to see Buffalo make it
Quote from: Don Ho on December 31, 2017, 07:48:13 PM
My God! So we may have 9 HC vacancies? Can't recall that many in recent memory.
Moving this from the Schwartz thread.
I count 6 either confirmed or highly likely (NYG, OAK, IND, CIN, ARI, CHI) and 2 more that feel likely to me (DEN, DET). Can't rule out CLE or HOU but the rumors seem to be going in the other direction on those two. So somewhere between 6 and 10.
Garrett really should be a consideration and Jerry is as impulsive as Trump sometimes, but we've seen him be overly loyal in these kinds of situations a lot of times.
Sounds like the Gruden talk is finally real this time, so this carousel is already fun.
eagles 430 saturday, pats 800 saturday, steelers 100 sunday, vikings 430 sunday
as usual i have zero clue what im talking about
first thing is i got which network was getting a game taken from them wrong because im stupid and cant remember what happened last year. second i neglected to consider the nfl anticipating a foles stinkbomb and hiding that game in the throwaway timeslot.
the eagles would get 430 sunday if wentz was playing. instead...bruh
this is awesome
https://www.instagram.com/p/BdY40j5A_0j/
James "Worthless" Harrison played well, and notched 2 sacks for the Patriots yesterday. Jedi mind tricks, not gonna get any snaps, blah blah blah.
somebody is salty over their ravens choking
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DSeoZvzXcAUNFid.jpg:large)
Giants are guaranteed one of the top qbs. Perfect timing for them. Rosen said he doesn't want to go to the Browns. Darnold is 50/50 whether he comes out. I'd rather see the Giants end up with Darnold, he has a limited ceiling and has slightly above average qb written all over him.
Indy has pick #3 with Luck coming back, Gore is ancient and Mack is average. They put Barkley in their backfield and they could be legit.
I really don't see RB as a top 5 need for the Colts. They have holes all over the place. Gore has not really been a problem, but he probably won't be a Colt next season.
There's still a decent case for drafting Barkley if they see him as a transformative player, but #3 is high for an RB in today's NFL, especially when the rest of your roster is as disastrous as the Colts'. I don't think having a top RB would be enough to turn around that mess.
Seems like the Bengals aren't firing Marvin Lewis, but if he can't get more power in the organization, he might bail.
Just an embarrassing franchise.
Not nearly as embarrassing as the Eagles. Dumpster fire. Move the team to San Diego.
Quote from: QB Eagles on January 01, 2018, 03:53:20 PM
I really don't see RB as a top 5 need for the Colts. They have holes all over the place. Gore has not really been a problem, but he probably won't be a Colt next season.
There's still a decent case for drafting Barkley if they see him as a transformative player, but #3 is high for an RB in today's NFL, especially when the rest of your roster is as disastrous as the Colts'. I don't think having a top RB would be enough to turn around that mess.
I'm not an advocate of taking an rb in the first round. But there are exceptions, Gurley is a special player, Fournette is too, Zeke yes but less so...all definitely deserved to be top 10 picks. My personal opinion is Gurley is the most talented rb in the league. Gurley is the best player to come out of the 2015 draft class by a long shot regardless of position. Barkley is probably the best rb prospect since AP...I'd actually rank Barkley higher. The Colts need o line help but I can't see passing up a generational talent like Barkley.
Gruden to coach the raiders again.
The more candidates I see getting interviews the less likely I see Schwartz leaving.
Ted Thompson OUT as the GM of the Packers.
It's aboit time they shipped Thompson out
His approach to free agency has been awful
I'm surprised the Gruden to Raiders thing actually went down....was certain it was all stupid talk
Marv's back on a two year deal.
lol
I don't understand what happened there. Haven't tried to though. Perhaps there's a good explanation for all that.
Mike Brown is the explanation. He's a wackadoo and cheap.
Marv knows he's not gonna be a HC elsewhere so he stays
I actually don't think Marv is a particularly horrible coach, but there's no way he should be back in Cincy.
At some point, it's just time for both parties to move on. It's an even more extreme version of the situation between Reid and the Eagles after more than a decade. Cincy fans online seem suicidal today. Keeping him for two more years is farging malicious toward the team's fans.
He might not be particularly horrible, but he ain't particularly good either. 15 years, 0 playoff wins. And on top of that, they've only made the playoffs 7 times in 15 seasons. And it's not like they're ever considered legit SB contenders. Only 6 seasons with 10 or more wins. In 15 years? That's garbage.
Quote from: Sgt PSN on January 03, 2018, 02:28:37 AM
Only 6 seasons with 10 or more wins. In 15 years? That's garbage.
whatever you think about marv i dont think that number is garbage....andy "only" had 8 ten win seasons in 14 years with the eagles...slightly better but not by much...also if marv goes 6-10 or better this year he will have more wins with the bengals than andy had with the eagles in not a huge amount more games
of course there is a grand canyon sized gap in their post season success except rings where they are tied
The team has a truly awful, cheap owner who loves to be hands on. And his hands are incompetent. No coach other than Lewis ever had a winning season working for that douchebag. It's not really an environment that lends itself to winning football, and they've never really hit the QB lottery either.
While I think Lewis has some big problems as a head coach (how many times have we seen undisciplined, sloppy Bengals teams) achieving a lifetime record over .500 during such a long tenure there is some kind of achievement.
its going to piss off the fans but really until the bengals get away from dalton, which they cant right now because of his contract/cheap owner, it doesnt matter who the coach is. nobody good is going there to try and win with andy farging dalton.
keeping lewis around to wait this thing out is whatever. from a pr perspective its horrible but i cant imagine that many people truly care in cinci.
lol didn't click but WaPo Sports feature titled "the fatal flaw that could stop your favorite team from winning the Super Bowl," accompanied by a photograph of Nick Foles.
QuoteIn his most ominous comments about the futures of strong safety Kam Chancellor and defensive end Cliff Avril, Seattle Seahawks coach Pete Carroll said Tuesday that both players "are going to have a hard time playing football again" because of their neck injuries.
"The jury's not out on that; they're going to decide that themselves, but it's going to be very difficult for those guys to come back and play again," Carroll said in his weekly radio show on 710 ESPN Seattle.
https://twitter.com/bruceallen/status/949069690068000774
Oh wow
i cant think of anything less interesting than the greatest dynasty in pro football history breaking up when the QB is 40 and the coach 65
i dont know what will be worse....patriot fans catching feelings over the article or patriot haters being happy over this after they won a million superbowls
worst will be the Patriots winning another Super Bowl
also should be noted that dook is wrong about brady asking for garrapolo to be moved....thats not in the piece
I wish I hated someone enough for us to be the best of all time at something.
http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/page/hotread180105/beginning-end-new-england-patriots-robert-kraft-tom-brady-bill-belichick-internal-power-struggle
every reaction to the story is a gif of trump saying fake news and i want the world to burn
gruden to the raiders. :-D
10 years hahahaha what
This deal is going to make the Joe Flacco and Brock Osweiller deals look good.
somebody mentioned something about part ownership as well ? I mean is that even possible ?
Quote from: smeags on January 05, 2018, 02:31:06 PM
somebody mentioned something about part ownership as well ? I mean is that even possible ?
no
hes bringing greg olson to be his offensive assistant (oc, but john calls the plays, so really the farg does he do) and paul guenther as the dc. they all got 4 year deals which is pretty crazy for coordinators.
but when you compare it to 10 years......
i refuse to believe its 100 million guaranteed....there has to be outs
but even if there isnt it doesnt matter....its just money....the years dont matter....its not like they cant fire him
The Raiders are worth a hundred mill?
Wtf.
Quote from: AntiRome on January 05, 2018, 05:53:53 PM
The Raiders are worth a hundred mill?
Wtf.
their move to vegas alone will more than pay for this deal even if its fully guaranteed
Davis is paying the NFL $378,000,000 over 10 years as a relocation fee, so that's close to $50M a year for a coach and a caravan of moving trucks.
paid over ten years and subsidized by the rams and chargers who got banged with 650 million dollar relocation fees
in other words peanuts and less than kurt cousins will make next year
NY papers saying there's a source who says Belichick could go to the Giants
Don't think I believe it but it wouldn't be a shock
Would make sense. Birds finally get a franchise qb and the greatest coach ever (with Chip Kelly being a close second) lands a job with their biggest rival.
bb and tb12 arent breaking up
stop
even if they do
who
the
farg
cares
sd_eagle_5 does
SD5 will always love you
the titans suck...the eagles could beat them with sudfield at qb
not only are they not a real playoff team they dont even feel like an nfl team
i rarely ever bet nfl but i even put a half unit on the chiefs today
mariota had 13 tds and 15 ints this season....how they won 9 games is beyond comprehension
their oc is farging terry robiske who is a fossil
i think they might also have intentionally tried to miss the playoffs....even they know
their uniforms suck...they play in a city that could care less about them...if the nfl had a D league they would seem like a D league team
they are likely going to fire their meathead coach after this
really what they should do is just remove the afc south from the nfl
the chargers are 1000x better than the titans...why cant there be a commissioners discretion rule to have them in the playoffs over this god awful team
complete joke thats not a fumble....how does the nfl continually miss the easiest shtein
the mariota or kelce play
mariota for sure.... that was ridiculous
i will give them a slight break on the kelce play as that safety was flying but even at home i immediately said oh farg was that a head shot....so if i thought it might be on tv youd think they could identify it on the field
Better performance: Mariota today or Foles next weekend?
I'm going with Marcus
Quote from: ice grillin you on January 06, 2018, 06:03:52 PM
mariota for sure.... that was ridiculous
i will give them a slight break on the kelce play as that safety was flying but even at home i immediately said oh farg was that a head shot....so if i thought it might be on tv youd think they could identify it on the field
it was called forward progress and it was an absurd call
Let's go Titans!
losing kelce killed kc....their offense has basically come to a halt since hes been out
kind of a preview of what the eagles will look like
mariota gets spun around backwards six times before a whistle but on the no fumble they call forward progress at the beginning of a tackle
did mcdonough just call this game a classic?
Quote from: ice grillin you on January 06, 2018, 07:30:39 PM
did mcdonough just call this game a classic?
espn is paying an ungodly sum for this game and he hasnt done a remotely interesting game in his 2 years of doing nfl....for him this is a classic
You could hear a pin drop after that 4th down drop
i thought chiefs should have punted until henry ran for the 1d and i remembered hes been slaughtering them all half
considering the opponent this might be the worst of andy reid's myriad horrible playoff losses
this titans team legit sucks
Henry was down and it's not even close
Quote from: AO1 on January 06, 2018, 07:42:23 PM
Henry was down and it's not even close
there was a loud as farg whistle you could clearly here
why would there have been a ten second run off there?
Quote from: ice grillin you on January 06, 2018, 07:45:00 PM
why would there have been a ten second run off there?
in the last 2 minutes if there is a review change
Times yours
Quote from: MDS on January 06, 2018, 07:49:33 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on January 06, 2018, 07:45:00 PM
why would there have been a ten second run off there?
in the last 2 minutes if there is a review change
but its an automatic review....not a bad challenge
they cant let him come back can they
Sounds like Matt Patricia is getting the DET job
teryl austin will probably go to the packers now and get that d in check
typical dumb lions hire...patricia is a turd
I didn't watch this game. I am immensely pleased with the result. Those of you who did watch, please detail below a couple trademark Andy farg ups that occurred, so I can taunt my Kansas City friend, who I told from the beginning that he'd rue the day Andy farging Reid took over his team, watch early playoff exit after early playoff exit, clock shenanigans, etc. etc. Thanks for your help.
The Chiefs had an 18 point lead at the half. Kareem Hunt ran the ball five times in the second half.
FIVE fargING TIMES.
Sure, he mismanaged the clock and his timeouts as usual but running Hunt 5 times in the second half is quintessential Andy.
Quote from: Diomedes on January 07, 2018, 08:56:56 AM
I didn't watch this game. I am immensely pleased with the result. Those of you who did watch, please detail below a couple trademark Andy farg ups that occurred, so I can taunt my Kansas City friend, who I told from the beginning that he'd rue the day Andy farging Reid took over his team, watch early playoff exit after early playoff exit, clock shenanigans, etc. etc. Thanks for your help.
https://www.pro-football-reference.com/boxscores/200209080oti.htm
It's like when he lost the Eagles 2002 opener against the Titans after holding a 24-10 halftime lead.
Teryl Austin went to CIN as DC
Good hire by Marv
Saw Mark Davis talking while introducing Jon Gruden as I scrolled down Facebook. I mean, seriously, how could that guy possibly look in any mirror and say, "That's the best haircut for me." Come on.
Quote from: Zanshin on January 09, 2018, 03:27:05 PM
I mean, seriously, how could that guy possibly look in any mirror and say, "That's the best haircut for me." Come on.
The same way he could watch Monday Night Football and say "That's the guy I want coaching my football team."
this is exactly why i dont see jim schwartz getting a HC job this year or really ever again
QuoteBaylor coach Matt Rhule interviewed for the Indianapolis Colts head coaching vacancy earlier this week.
how sickening is it that matt ruhle is getting HC interviews and friggin norv turner is still getting high level jobs but any blacks have a tough time getting coordinator jobs much less HC jobs
Quote from: ice grillin you on January 11, 2018, 01:40:27 PM
how sickening is it that matt ruhle is getting HC interviews and friggin norv turner is still getting high level jobs but any blacks have a tough time getting coordinator jobs much less HC jobs
the only sports realm in which whites now dominate is coaching, and if blacks take coaching, as I think everyone wants them to, there is not going to be anything left for the white people.
you mean besides front offices and ownership
It's an unfair system to begin with...the black is a better athlete to begin with because he's been bred to be that way, because of his high thighs and big thighs that goes up into his back, and they can jump higher and run faster because of their bigger thighs and he's bred to be the better athlete because this goes back all the way to the Civil War when during the slave trade...the slave owner would breed his big black to his big woman so that he could have a big black kid
Lol. Can't skate either.
flyers currently have two brothers on their team which must be driving their fanbase just nuts
SD auditioning for the other CF
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on January 11, 2018, 04:32:33 PM
SD auditioning for the other CF
Oh man, that reminds me....The other CF is definitely all in on Wentz.
Quote from: ice grillin you on January 11, 2018, 01:40:27 PM
how sickening is it that matt ruhle is getting HC interviews and friggin norv turner is still getting high level jobs but any blacks have a tough time getting coordinator jobs much less HC jobs
how is it not THE story.
look at the goddamn league. african american athletes and coaches didn't just break into the game last year. it's been a few decades. it's farging shameful.
The idea that somehow in 2018 there just aren't enough qualified black coaches, there aren't enough talented black coaches?
I don't believe that for a second.
Quote from: ice grillin you on January 11, 2018, 03:18:55 PM
you mean besides front offices and ownership
also, the paying fans at the games.
I'm almost embarrassed to attend football games because I know damn well that in this town, and in Philly, the faces in the crowd don't add up to anything like the faces in the crowd on the street, or in the census.
whats amazing and they dont even know how bad they look or maybe they do and dont care but on the same damn day they conducted interviews with the two most glaring examples of this shtein...
an unqualified young white guy and the poster child for the old boys network
norv turners son, nephew and brother are all working for him now
also hes 65 and quit his last job in the middle of the season even though his team was undefeated
and he was hired by one of the few non white coaches in the league
i dont get it
BORTLES
Embarrassing
steelers getting their ass kicked...this is a pure effort thing. not ready to play, dont care what about whats happening.
If the Patriots get to play the Jags without Fournette, I can't remember an easier path to the Super Bowl in NFL history. And with one more Eagle win, they'd be playing against Nick Foles in the SB.
Their division wasn't exactly a challenge either.
If Pitt scores on this drive and gets within 7 by the half, they'll probably pull this out.
nm
Or defensive TD puts it out of Steelers ability to come back and win. I can't wait for the Eagles to play the Jags in the Super Bowl
retire rapistburger
Quote from: Tomahawk on January 14, 2018, 02:19:54 PM
Or defensive TD puts it out of Steelers ability to come back and win. I can't wait for the Eagles to play the Jags in the Super Bowl
The matchup NBC wanted: Bortles vs Foles. Can't contain the hype.
God, I'd hate life so much if they played Jax in the SB. If they lose, another shtein franchise from a shtein town, with a shtein fan base wins a chip before the Eagles.
And if they win, I'm sure it doesn't count because Jax hasn't been a team for 80 years with eleventy chips.
Quote from: Sgt PSN on January 14, 2018, 02:22:51 PM
If they lose, another shtein franchise from a shtein town, with a shtein fan base wins a chip before the Eagles.
Losing an SB to Blake Bortles might be the worst indignity Eagles fans have ever suffered. So... book it.
nick foles beating the jags would be the worst championship of all time in all four sports
bortles beating the eagles would be way worse
if its jags/eagles theres a chance al michaels calls the game from his republican malibu enclave...zero chance he wants to do that
I don't care if Trumps the god damn qb I'll take an Eagles sb any way I can get it. Just one before I die.
Pittsburgh right back in this.
That was a heckuva catch by Bell...wow
Todd Haley is the dumbest mofo in the NFL right now.
Yeah he's been awful
Wow
4th and shorts - big problem
4th and longs - TDs
Bizzaro world
antonio brown is on a different galaxy
This is some shameful shtein by the Pittsburgh defense.
I would have bet the house that Jacksonville would have flopped today. What they're doing to Pittsburgh right now is literally unbelievable.
I can't believe the Steelers got Bortled so hard again this season.
Wow...what horrendous clock management on that final possession. But they got ringzzzzz though so I guess that's ok.
Quote from: Sgt PSN on January 14, 2018, 04:25:17 PM
Wow...what horrendous clock management on that final possession. But they got ringzzzzz though so I guess that's ok.
Tomlin is frequently awful at situational football. A bit better than Andy at managing the clock, but a bit worse in making other adjustments. It's the main knock on him.
sure you want the vikings
So what's up with the Darth Vader patch Brees has on his jersey?
Quote from: General_Failure on January 14, 2018, 06:02:18 PM
So what's up with the Darth Vader patch Brees has on his jersey?
Walter Payton man of the year patch
Hey, this game just got interesting again.
Vikes gag job in progress
Oh shtein, now we have a week of the press shoving their heads further up Brees' ass. This whole love affair is a joke as he's a complete prick.
Vikings are cursed.
Holy shtein
Right? Joe Buck actually had emotion in his voice that wasn't disappointment.
HOLY farg x 1 trillion
Did I say cursed?
Quote from: General_Failure on January 14, 2018, 08:08:44 PM
Right? Joe Buck actually had emotion in his voice that wasn't disappointment.
:-D So true! I almost liked Joe for once. He's the biggest Brees lapdog of all.
Vikes should go for two since the Saints left early
Look at this disgusting favoritism by the refs not calling for these delay of game penalties.
Unreal amazing finish
It's nice to find out that that was Keenum's third best moment of his life behind giving his life to Jesus Christ and something else no one cares about.
that marcus williams non play was the worst play in the history of sports at any level
how does he go in the locker room after that
Quote from: ice grillin you on January 14, 2018, 09:18:47 PM
that marcus williams non play was the worst play in the history of sports at any level
how does he go in the locker room after that
He was trying to avoid a PI so he avoided taking Diggs legs out.
Quote from: AO1 on January 14, 2018, 09:21:00 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on January 14, 2018, 09:18:47 PM
that marcus williams non play was the worst play in the history of sports at any level
how does he go in the locker room after that
He was trying to avoid a PI so he avoided taking Diggs legs out.
this was jimmy johnsons take and its the most preposterous thing ive ever heard
let him catch the ball...what the farg does PI have to do with anything....he catches it then you tackle him and game over
are people stupid?
My wife and daughter were watching the game with me and both of them said it looked like he intentionally missed him. I said you mean like it was a fix? And my wife replied: absolutely.
I love her so much. Lol.
Kinda like when Broncos S Rahim Moore let that ball over his head against Baltimore
Quote from: Rome on January 14, 2018, 09:41:47 PM
My wife and daughter were watching the game with me and both of them said it looked like he intentionally missed him. I said you mean like it was a fix? And my wife replied: absolutely.
I love her so much. Lol.
i said the same thing to the people i was watching with....it legit looked like he was paid off
theres really no other explanation
Missing a tackle is one thing, but he threw himself at the legs of the only guy other guy within twenty yards of the play.
Quote from: ice grillin you on January 14, 2018, 09:27:19 PM
Quote from: AO1 on January 14, 2018, 09:21:00 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on January 14, 2018, 09:18:47 PM
that marcus williams non play was the worst play in the history of sports at any level
how does he go in the locker room after that
He was trying to avoid a PI so he avoided taking Diggs legs out.
this was jimmy johnsons take and its the most preposterous thing ive ever heard
let him catch the ball...what the farg does PI have to do with anything....he catches it then you tackle him and game over
are people stupid?
He was in the motion of going low and probably thought he'd hit him before the ball got there and wanted to avoid a PI. That was my immediate impression. I didn't see Johnson's take but from the rear angle you could tell he makes a conscious decision to go below him.
the PI take might actually be worse than the actual play....he literally could have done nothing...just stood there and watched him catch the ball....then tackled him and the games over
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Hes there early and in motion while Diggs is in the air, if he hits him at that point he risks a possible PI. He goes low and decides to avoid contact instead. I'm not making excuses for the guy but it was a split second decision and I sort of understand the reasoning. He has to make a play on the ball because if Diggs catches that and goes out of bounds they kick a fg and win. So he had to break towards him because Diggs was open. Diggs shouldn't have been that wide open along the sideline to begin with.
he shouldnt be in the position of having to make a split second decision he should have just been stading btwn the sideline and the wr....let him catch it then tackle him...game over
he was wildly out of control for no reason...it was the single most ridiculous thing ive ever seen in sports
and he wasnt wide open there were multiple saints there...again it doesnt matter if he catches it he just cant catch it and run or go out of bounds
nfl >>
it never shouldve got to the point it did. on the possession where forbath hit the 50 something yarder, minny needed to run 3 times or call a screen...keep it in bounds. they called 3 passes, wasted no time, and left brees a great chance. they couldve easily gained the same 5 yards they did and ate all but a handful of seconds off the clock.
Too bad Al didn't call the end of that Saints Vikings game. He's the one you need to explain the real significance of that extra point kneeldown.
some people had it 4.5, some 5.5
so either you won/lost on the kneeldown or won/lost on the td...never will see that again
Think most books had it 4.5 until the middle of the week, then 5, then 5.5 before the game today. All kinds of chaos erupting everywhere degenerates gather.
Mularkey has been both extended and fired by the Titans.
Think they woke up hungover today and realized they said they were going to keep a horrible coach for years just because their QB was able to pass a touchdown to himself.
if you want to know the power of matchups in sports tv, consider this. saints/vikings this year and packers/cowboys last year were roughly the same game in terms of closeness and excitement.
these numbers are just for the 700-800 portion and just for the east/central time zones
this year - 33 mil
last year - 44 mil
If the SB is Eagles/Jags NBC should give advitisers a steep discount
Quote from: MDS on January 16, 2018, 09:37:01 PM
if you want to know the power of matchups in sports tv, consider this. saints/vikings this year and packers/cowboys last year were roughly the same game in terms of closeness and excitement.
these numbers are just for the 700-800 portion and just for the east/central time zones
this year - 33 mil
last year - 44 mil
PROOF THE NFL IS DECLINING BC OF KNEELING
MAGA
So you're telling me Jax/Min will be the greatest Superbowl no one will ever see.
Quote from: General_Failure on January 16, 2018, 10:55:49 PM
So you're telling me Jax/Min will be the greatest Superbowl no one will ever see.
if box pools were outlawed
Jacksonville looking strong so far.
Brady's throws look like they're coming from Nick Foles' arm.
Gronk's gotta be done. I don't think he could pass the concussion protocol on a normal day.
Man, the Patriots are really laying it on this for this obvious comeback win.
Uh oh. Jacksonville is Jacksonvilling.
Quote from: Sgt PSN on January 21, 2018, 05:42:47 PM
Uh oh. Jacksonville is Jacksonvilling.
And Brady being Brady.
Romo is the only person surprised and excited about this Patriots win.
Cut him some slack. He's never actually seen a Conf Championship Game in person.
Haha
Cards are expected to hire Panthers D Coordinator Steve Wilks as their HC.
And for the two people who actually care...he's black.
I care about him not being Jim Schwartz.
Schwarz means black
Now we just have to find Kaep a team and everyone can stop crying about racism
Dick LeBeau got the boot in Tennessee.
For perspective on how long he's been coaching, he was the Eagles special teams coach in 1973.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/more-sports/report-wwes-vince-mcmahon-to-announce-new-pro-football-league/ar-AAvalWf?li=BBnba9I
guess he didn't learn form the xfl's failure.
a spring football league could actually work if you do it right. the xfl failed because the tv contract was stupid, the advertising was literal trash and mcmahon was the face of the league and hes a wrestling stooge.
if you get some washed up names, notable college qbs and make the games easily accessible it could work on the level that the kixx and wings leagues worked. the womens soccer league has been doing ok. a ton of these leagues come and go but the interest is there to warrant football in the spring.
Bills Center Eric Wood is retiring.
https://twitter.com/EWood70/status/956934961159921665
Why is he consulting coffee about this?
Quote from: Tomahawk on January 26, 2018, 03:48:26 PM
Why is he consulting coffee about this?
well you certainly wouldn't consult with tea on it.
He should go to Dr. Pepper for a second opinion.
The biggest travesty in the NFL is finally being taken care of.
https://twitter.com/APMarkLong/status/957697826137534465
Quote from: General_Failure on January 29, 2018, 10:16:11 AM
The biggest travesty in the NFL is finally being taken care of.
There's nothing in this tweet about Daniel Snyder.
sean mcvays girlfriend
(http://dailysnark.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/01/76E82191-DC6C-44C2-A471-7DF1D42999BD.jpeg)
Nice work, Sean.
Pass
She's Ukranian. That picture doesn't do her justice...she's away hotter.
he must be hanging 12 because he got her well before the rams job
"Vukes widow is better"
Rome
So if you're a team that needs a QB, in addition to the draft picks, here's your choices:
The Cuzz
Blake Bortles
Whoever shakes free from Minnesota
Foles (probably)
Kap (just kidding)
Tyrod
Somehow prying Jimmy G or Drew Brees loose (good luck)
Scrubs like McCown or Fitz (still probably better than Bortles)
Assuming that Brees and Garappolo never see the open market, Cousins is by far the safest option but will come at a premium cost. Overall though, I think the QB options are better, more interesting, and more varied than in a typical year.
You think they would trade Foles? I wouldn't think so with a fair $7M salary and $5.4M cap hit trading him, especially with Wentz's uncertainty now. I don't think it's impossible but I doubt they'd get more than a second rounder at best and he's worth more than that to the team.
Depends on what comes back the other way. They got a first rounder for Sam Bradford. Jay Cutler went for a first rounder too. If Foles wins the SB and looks good doing it, I don't think a solid return is out of the question.
Not saying the Eagles necessarily trade him, but if a team wants him bad enough, he's gettable for sure.
i dont think theres any doubt they shop foles if they win the super bowl....and the way howie wheels and deals i would not be shocked if they do it anyway
remember they only have 6 total picks in the draft this year and only 1 is going to come in the first 128 ish selections
most fans wont care about the lack of draft picks if they win a super bowl but i guarantee you howie and joe d will
Plus, they like Sudfeld, are probably willing to rely on him as the backup.
If the Eagles win this game I will never care if they win another. We're in sell our soul to the devil territory now.
I'd be a little surprised if they trade Foles and yeah, it comes down to the market. Even if he wins I still wouldn't think they'll get a 1st for him considering there's only about 5 teams that really need a qb and what's available in the draft plus FAs, but especially with QBs you never know. If Wentz might not be 100% ready to go at the beginning of the year it makes it a lot less likely.
im sure theyll shop foles but what could they really get for him that would be worth giving up the insurance of having a capable qb when your franchise qb just tore his acl?
there cant be anyone dumb enough to give up a 2
If a team offers a 1st or 2nd - which is a definite possibility - see ya later Nick. If not, hold onto him and give Wentz as much time as he needs to recover.
id be stunned if they got anything better than a conditional 4th
foles is a fringe starter/good backup. if youre the jets or bills, primed to not even come close to getting cuzzo, why not just pay for bradford or bridgewater? is foles really that much better than either.
Probably not, but then you see what teams have done for the likes of Brock Osweiller and Mike Glennon, who haven't done shtein.
The last time a crap QB went on a playoff tear and won a Super Bowl, the Ravens gave him the biggest contract in NFL history. Not crazy to think the Cards or someone like that would want a piece of "winning culture". Assuming he wins of course.
alex smith is five years older and just got a 3rd and an excellent young corner
Quote from: MDS on January 31, 2018, 09:45:58 AM
id be stunned if they got anything better than a conditional 4th
29 year old qb who is coming into his prime, has been the most efficient qb in the playoffs, and might be holding a trophy over his head Sunday night...prepared to be stunned
Quote from: QB Eagles on January 30, 2018, 10:33:35 PM
Blake Bortles
The underreported news of the week has to be Bortles' wrist surgery. This seems to guarantee him returning to the Jags at $19 million, since the team is forced to pick up his option if he's still injured at the beginning of the league year in March. No one else is paying that guy $19 million. Seems like a disaster for the Jags. Is he gonna be their highest paid player?
gotta admit that andy might be the greatest of all time at knowing the exact time when a guy is cooked. save $17M, get a pick, CB and give mahomes a chance next year? what a great move by KC.
Quote from: MDS on January 31, 2018, 09:32:23 AM
im sure theyll shop foles but what could they really get for him that would be worth giving up the insurance of having a capable qb when your franchise qb just tore his acl?
there cant be anyone dumb enough to give up a 2
The Dolphins gave me a 2nd for AJ Feely...surely somebody would do the same for Foles
He got a 2nd and DRC for Kolb too.
Quote from: Rome on January 31, 2018, 08:27:35 AM
If the Eagles win this game I will never care if they win another. We're in sell our soul to the devil territory now.
I feel the same way.
farg selling your soul to the devil..I'm going to give him the best rusty trombone he's ever had. (I really need this superbowl win.)
Quote from: Tomahawk on January 31, 2018, 11:09:38 AM
The Dolphins gave me a 2nd for AJ Feely...surely somebody would do the same for Foles
Quote from: AO1 on January 31, 2018, 11:35:09 AM
He got a 2nd and DRC for Kolb too.
this was years ago....i cant see a team being this dumb again
Quote from: MDS on January 31, 2018, 12:50:45 PM
this was years ago....i cant see a team being this dumb again
taterskins just proved it yesterday.
alex smith is better than nick foles
Quote from: MDS on January 31, 2018, 12:50:45 PM
Quote from: Tomahawk on January 31, 2018, 11:09:38 AM
The Dolphins gave me a 2nd for AJ Feely...surely somebody would do the same for Foles
Quote from: AO1 on January 31, 2018, 11:35:09 AM
He got a 2nd and DRC for Kolb too.
this was years ago....i cant see a team being this dumb again
Osweiler fetched a second. The Pats got a 2nd for Garoppppolo. If Foles wins a SB for the Eagles another team is going to want him because he's proven he can win one. The Eagles would be doing Foles a favor too, he'd get a fat contract as a starter.
Quote from: MDS on January 31, 2018, 12:57:04 PM
alex smith is better than nick foles
Not by much.
I'm forever down to shtein on Andy Reid but one thing the guy does is prop up, coach up, whatever you want to call it, marginal quarderbacks. None of his QBs have ever played as well for someone else as they did for him.
Quote from: Diomedes on January 31, 2018, 01:08:44 PM
Quote from: MDS on January 31, 2018, 12:57:04 PM
alex smith is better than nick foles
Not by much.
in the minds of teams out there maybe not at all when you include in the fact that alex smith is way older
the difference is alex smith current track record is much longer than foles...foles was about to retire a few minutes ago
Also keep in mind that Foles' bad quarterbacking was done for Jeff Fisher and after Chip decided to make zero changes to his offense after every opponent got tape on it and memorized it.
Quote from: QB Eagles on January 31, 2018, 02:51:00 PM
Also keep in mind that Foles' bad quarterbacking was done for Jeff Fisher and after Chip decided to make zero changes to his offense after every opponent got tape on it and memorized it.
Fisher had Foles, Keenum and Goff at the same time-- they all looked like garbage...and all played at high levels without him. Common denominator is Fisher.
Steve McNair says hi or would if he weren't dead af
Quote from: Tomahawk on January 31, 2018, 03:04:37 PM
Steve McNair says hi or would if he weren't dead af
Playing for Fisher literally killed him. Well, that and bullets.
there is no way for anyone to really pick the value for nick foles in my opinion. i don't think it's hyperbole to say he's the highest variance qb in the league. he's had such a farging weird career path.
Quote from: Zanshin on January 31, 2018, 04:30:13 PM
Quote from: Tomahawk on January 31, 2018, 03:04:37 PM
Steve McNair says hi or would if he weren't dead af
Playing for Fisher literally killed him. Well, that and bullets.
Lolol
Quote from: Eagles_Legendz on January 31, 2018, 04:32:49 PM
there is no way for anyone to really pick the value for nick foles in my opinion. i don't think it's hyperbole to say he's the highest variance qb in the league. he's had such a farging weird career path.
I'd agree with that
Bortles might have more variance. He never looks as good as Foles looked against Minnesota, but the depths of his badness can go so much deeper. This year alone, there were weeks when you can legitimately say he won them the game, and also weeks where it looked like it was his first time ever throwing a football.
well, farg
https://www.indystar.com/story/news/crime/2018/02/04/suspected-drunken-driver-kills-2-70/304726002/
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oh god
QuoteThe NFL competition committee, in an effort to boost scoring, might re-emphasize enforcement of illegal contact rules.
now this would be great
QuoteNFL competition committee is discussing the possibility of limiting defensive pass interference penalties to, at most, 15 yards.
nay on the former, yay on the latter
more scoring is not something the NFL needs
I wouldn't think the former is possible; when was illegal contact de-emphasized? I thought it was essentially replaced by defensive holding.
I used to be all-in on the latter, but I need to better understand the consequences. Will players be coached to interfere because it's barely a 1st down instead of a 50 yard penalty? And even if that happens, how would it impact the game?
So the "competition committee" decided the no catch by Bryant against GB in 2014/2015 was actually a catch along with the one they ruled wasn't a catch against Calvin Johnson awhile back. No sense crying over spilled milk but realistically, it was the last shot Romo had at a ring. Even John farging Mara was on board, even though I'll bet he smirked when the vote happened. So, now they're going to tweak the farging rules. Again. They should just turn back the clock 40+ years and undo every farging rule tweak they've done, starting with the PI rules that favored WRs around '77, '78. Oh well.
http://www.espn.com/espn/now?nowId=21-0760203828007017322-4
https://www.bloggingtheboys.com/2018/2/27/17058904/its-semi-official-dez-byant-caught-it-dallas-cowboys-green-bay-packers
It'll likely make the NFL draft at AT&T Stadium in Arlington this April entertaining every time the schmuck Goodell goes to the podium.
jesus
its still just all on paper but..rams eagles saints and vikings could turn into a sick race for the nfc title
QuoteFormer Dolphins' DT Ndamukong Suh reached agreement with Los Angeles Rams on a one-year, $14 million deal, per source. Suh took less to go to LA.
Suh and Aaron Donald now manning LA's front.
Rams coming for the crown
QuoteSuh took less
Fake news detected.
seven of the rams 11 defensive players are first round picks
not often a player of that caliber leaving your teams division would be a bad thing...also great headline
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