First we shall remember the glory of last September as the Phightins went on a historic run and Mess suffered a collapse of historic proportions.
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As for this year:
Key Additions:
- Geoff Jenkins
- Brad Lidge
- Pedro Feliz
Key Subtractions:
Everybody knows this team will hit. IMO, they have the best offense in the NL East, with the Braves a close 2nd. It will all come down to starting pitching. Can Kyle Kendrick match what he did last year? Can Jamie Moyer not be awful. Can Adam Eaton get hit by a bus on the way to a game in April? If any of these questions can be answered in the positive, the pitching staff has a chance to be on par with last year. But there are no illusions about this staff, this team is going to have to out hit their opponents on most nights.
The bullpen may actually be a strength this year, Madsen and Romero in the 7th, Gordon in the 8th, Lidge in the 9th. I think Lidge will be ok, others do not, we shall see.
My prediction 90-72, 2nd place NL East. Win the WC.
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I am grow'd up icehole.
please tell me you did not just make a new thread because someone else started one before you
top 5 worst things ever done
he deleted his dummy
it's all about the karma
i dont believe in karma anywhere much less message board karma but if it exists this can only bring the bad kind
and if he acvtually deleted his own thread because of this hes a worse person than you
you're worse than all of us
im the bestest
Feel better now? :-D
I hope Jay doesn't get pissed at having to re-post his predictions.
Anyway, I got 91-71 and a wild card birth. And I also think the Mets are going to fold like a motherfarger again.
1. Braves
2. Phillies
3. Mets
4. Nationals
5. Marlins
I'll also pick the Phillies to make it to the NLCS but lose to the Diamondbacks in the NLCS. The Douchebacks' starting pitching is damn impressive. They have arguably the best 1-2 punch in the NL with Webb & Haren plus they also have Randy Johnson who could be huge if he stays healthy.
Who wins the World Series is irrelevant since the Phillies won't make it there but I'll go with the Red Sox to repeat.
I said 88 wins last thread but I'm gonna go with 90. I don't see a fast or slow start this season, more like an average start, which is fine. They'll contend for the WC.
All good Romey, I will sacrifice them for the greater good of Phillies karma and just repost them here.
1. Phillies 94-68
2. Mets 88-74
3. Braves 86-76
4. Nationals 75-87
5. Marlins 70-92
* Howard hits 60+
* Rollins has another MVP-type season but loses his shot at a repeat because;
* Chase Utley is the NL MVP, he'll hit .330+ with 25+ HRS
* The Werth/Jenkins platoon works out okay
* Pedro Feliz turns out to be one of the best low-key signings of the off-season
* Brad Lidge returns to his old form with a high 90s fastball and that hard ass slider
* Adam Eaton goes on the DL with a yeast infection
* Pat Burrell has a so-so final season in Philly and Billy Beans weeps sadly for his man
* Myers wins 15 and IGY cakes me off for that and the wins bet
* The Phils will miss Aaron Rowand big time, and they will regret not signing him
* The bullpen will be a strength (at least the back end)
sunmo is a queer
87 wins, 2 games out the wild card.
Pitching woes (other than Hamels) torpedoes the team this year.
1. Mets 95-67
2. Braves 92-70
3. Phillies 87-75
4. Nationals 75-87
5. Marlins 68-94
- Howard hits 56 HRs, knocks in 140+
- Utley: .320, 43 HR, 135 RBI, MVP
- Rollins: .289, 21 HR, 76 RBI, 32 SB
- Hamels: 19-8, 2.87 ERA, Top 3 in Cy Young
- Myers: 14-11, 4.32 ERA
- Kendrick: 12-9, 4.98 ERA
- Moyer: Retired in July after starting 4-8, 6.54 ERA
- Lidge - 25 saves, on DL at least a calendar month
The Phils could top 90 wins, or could finish .500. They're good, but that starting rotation is going to bite them in the ass all year.
Phils win the division again, Braves get the WC spot. The Mets finish below .500...and Santana will have a 1972 Carlton type year...but it won't make a difference.
Hamels will finish 18-3 2.25 ERA, 2nd in Cy Young Voting
Myers will go 14-16 4.90
Kendrick 13-7 4.50
Utley wins MVP
Howard hits 35 HRS, but has a .320 average and 160 rbi, leads the league in doubles.
Eaton will be gone as soon as Benson is healthy enough, which will be some time this december.
Lidge will have less than 15 saves this season, Romero will be the closer for most of the year, and Myers will save the final 2 games of the year to win the division again.
Burrell will be resigned before the trade deadline for half the money he makes now.
It will be the same april as normal...fall way behind, and then catch up the rest of the year.
91 wins
PS Karma is for 'tards
This team is about two injuries away from a major pitching disaster.
86 wins. Possible wild-card, but probably not.
Quote from: PhillyGirl on March 30, 2008, 03:28:07 PM
Quote from: MDS on March 30, 2008, 12:49:14 PM
sunmo is a queer
87 wins, 2 games out the wild card.
Quote from: MDS on March 26, 2007, 07:44:34 PM
89 and no playoffs
CHOKE
well of course its predictable that i called sunmo a queer. he is one.
and the only reason they won last year was because of the mets epic choke.
Quote from: PhillyGirl on March 30, 2008, 03:28:07 PM
Quote from: MDS on March 30, 2008, 12:49:14 PM
sunmo is a queer
87 wins, 2 games out the wild card.
Quote from: MDS on March 26, 2007, 07:44:34 PM
89 and no playoffs
CHOKE
predictable
To be fair, PG, he was spot on for the number of wins. Who knew that would be enough to win the East? I wouldn't have guessed that.
Quote from: SD_Eagle on March 30, 2008, 10:22:40 AM
I said 88 wins last thread but I'm gonna go with 90. I don't see a fast or slow start this season, more like an average start, which is fine. They'll contend for the WC.
An average start would be pharging phenominal. If the Phils could have managed so much as .500 baseball the last 6 years or so they'd have probably made the playoffs at least 3 or 4 times, if not more.
I'm going with 89 wins and a tie for the WC and lose the extra game.
It looks miserable in Philly today.
Hey, whats the deal with MLB.Tv for the delaware area? Will i get blacked out if i buy the internet games package?
showers on and off all day predicted and tomorrow same thing...although they're calling for almost 70 degrees tomorrow.
I fear we've been understating the awesomeness of the name "Iron Pigs".
These guys suck. (http://ironpigsbaseball.com/pressbox/pigsnews/index.html?article_id=116)
AAA is where teams put the people that don't fit on the far end of the bench and bullpen. Reading is loaded with Phils prospects.
1-0 Phils after 2, by the way
Who scored the first run of the season?
(http://images.sportsline.com/images/baseball/mlb/players/60x80/21547.jpg) Pedro Feliz reminds me of Sean Landeta
Anyone not named Wes Helms starting at 3rd base makes me hard.
Rollins scored on an Utley sac fly
Burrell just added an RBI single.....2-0 after 4 innings
first farg up of the season and i run to the board. ah, phils down 4-2. I love this game.
Typical Phils
2-0, 1st and 2nd, no outs.......3 straight outs
Nats have the 8-9-1 up and they score 4 runs
Madson looks to have an easy inning....2 outs.....IF single....2-run bomb by Milledge
yay 0-1
yay jimmy.
Quote from: BigEd76 on March 31, 2008, 04:47:31 PM
Madson looks to have an easy inning....2 outs.....IF single....2-run bomb by Milledge
yay 0-1
yay ed.
Gordon sucks.
I've always hated Gordon, he fargin blows
happy opening day all!
Anytime you want to pull the bastige would be fine and dandy with me.
BOO!
so that happened.
Super start, fellas. Just awesome.
next
zesty weather and a zesty display of pitching.
I hope Pat Gillick and Ruben the icehole Amaro got a good look at that.
The Nats announcers are terrible. They were so excited and amazed that the Nats opened up at 2-0 because its the first time they have been over 500 in forever.
Gordon's ERA is 135.00. :yay
Tom Gordon 135.00 ERA? shtein. If this guy is still around at the end of April I'll fly up and hang myself from the upper decks of CBP. Just awful.
He'll be around. They have no choice but to keep him. And I think he will end up being alright.
I'm not going to get too caught up in the ripping today because there was plenty of blame to go around. Including Jimmy booting the ball and not making a good relay throw that could have nailed Milledge at the plate. Myers letting Chico get a hit off of him and then he plunked Milledge after getting 2 strikes on him.
What cracks me up is how the Phils MB is in mid-season form with blasting Myers for his supposed "10 cent head", ripping Manuel for bringing in Gordon and several other shots taken.
They should have won this game, no doubt. It was stupid plays by several who farged it up.
I have Cole Hamels and Brett Myers on my fantasy team. They better not suck.
I actually had this DVR'd. Fortunately I heard the score on the way home so I won't subject myself to this.
Bleh.
bruuuuuuuuuuutal
GO TEAM
season. over.
it was my daughter's 8th birthday today and i took her to her first game and she had a great time. she got cold and tired and we left early and spared me the 9th inning (7th inning comeback as well)
i win all the way around.
0-162.
Quote from: Geowhizzer on March 31, 2008, 07:38:11 PM
I actually had this DVR'd. Fortunately I heard the score on the way home so I won't subject myself to this.
Bleh.
same...I just finished watching it. I had class from 3-8:30 so I didn't check my text messages, listen to the radio, or pay attention to what anyone was saying. I sat down for my 6:00 Finance class and I heard someone in the hallway say 'rough start' and just knew that they sucked.
farg Gordon. He blew his last couple outings in ST. I was hoping Charlie would promote Romero to the closer role until Lidge was ready to come back.
One good thing is I don't have to freeze my ass off watching them blow like I did when they played their opening series vs. the Braves last season. iirc Gordon blew in that series too.
i think wednesday is a student night and a dollar dog nite. things were out of on control the last time they did this, so its a good idea that theyre doing it again this year.
Quote from: MDS on March 31, 2008, 11:47:32 PM
i think wednesday is a student night and a dollar dog nite. things were out of on control the last time they did this, so its a good idea that theyre doing it again this year.
are they really doing that again? i know last year was a debacle. we missed it by one night last year in April. actually don jr. would have loved the extra curricular activities.
That was the rowdiest game I ever attended. Still sport my red Phils College T
betting that brett myers wont win more than 15 games might be the easiest money ever made
thanks phreak
so funny how the papers this morning already have articles "Do the Phillies miss Aaron Rowand?"
Jesus, its been one game. LOL
Lets revisit that topic in 2 months ok?
Retards.
they undoubtedly WILL miss him...how could you argue it any other way...but they also shouldnt have resigned him....it can go both ways in this case
Yes, I clearly know that Rowand would be missed.
My point is, they're writing articles like this shtein based on one game.
"DO the Phillies miss Rowand?"
Not, "Will the Phillies miss Rowand this season?"
Big difference. Retards.
Should the writers just sit on their keyboards until June?
From AJ Daulerio
Quote• Tom Gordon should just be vanquished to a small island and forced to eat himself. Brett Myers gave himself a mohawk and pitched like a number one starter for a few innings, then the inevitable 5th inning fade happened again and the Phillies were forced to go bull-penning. Ryan Madson gave up a couple, the Phillies tied it in the 8th, but then Flash came out turd-tossing in the 9th that led to a Washington Nationals offensive volcano. Final score: 11-6. Once again the Phillies start off with major concerns about their pitching staff, and the nagging feeling that the first part of the season will be absolutely horrible. Wake me when it's June.
They could sell him for glue and give the proceeds to Cole Hamels' next contract.
No, they should just go off themselves.
And lets just all see how the next week goes.
What happens if the Phils end up winning the next 3 straight? Then lose Eaton's game. Will life be good again? ::) Should I wake that turd up earlier than June?
Rowand probably will be missing philly more than philly misses him. He's going to regret his money-grab in the long run if he is about winning.
The giants could lose 90 games this year, they are terrible, and they have almost $40M tied into two guys alone.
The phils will lose every game this year where both Madsen and Gordon pitch.
does that mean games with kendrick gordon and madsen count as two losses?
At least the Phillies get to start their real ACE today.
or tomorrow, whatever works
Rudy Seanez will save the bullpen :-\
Quote from: PhillyGirl on April 01, 2008, 11:57:51 AM
so funny how the papers this morning already have articles "Do the Phillies miss Aaron Rowand?"
Jesus, its been one game. LOL
Lets revisit that topic in 2 months ok?
Retards.
But he went 2-for-3 while his team was shut out by the Dodgers! He's a difference-maker! Look at the grit and bluecollarness as he walks back to CF after another inning without a run...
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so he went 2 for 3 and his team lost
i guess you wanted him to hit a 6 run home run and singlehandedly win the game?
brett myers is now the leader of the clubhouse...if you dont think thats a major problem then i dont know what to say
again he was asking for too much money but if you dont think they will miss him then you guys are once again practicing your homertastic revisionism
Rowand wasn't the reason they lost yesterday. But hey, they have another old Latino to solve the bullpen issues....
Quote from: SunMo on April 01, 2008, 01:13:51 PM
i guess you wanted him to hit a 6 run home run and singlehandedly win the game?
It would certainly make his contract seem like a bargain if he did.
you guys probably don't remember this but roward totally smashed his face into the wall while diving for a catch once.
Unless Rowand developed a 98 mph fastball over the winter, his presence on the team wouldn't have made a speck of difference.
But I did laugh at the fact that it didn't take more than a single loss for one of the hacks in Philly to bring him up as an excuse. The only thing more predictable than the Phillies' front office being inept is the douchebags at Philly.com one-upping them.
homers who loved rowand when he was here and wait for his first game on another team to rip him are worse than either of the people you just mentioned
Quote from: ice grillin you on April 01, 2008, 02:31:02 PM
homers who loved rowand when he was here and wait for his first game on another team to rip him are worse than either of the people you just mentioned
Oh I love Rowand and wish he were still here, for sure.
But he wouldn't have helped yesterday. 6 runs at home is more than enough to be able to win a game vs. the farging Nats.
Exactly right. Six runs SHOULD BE more than enough to beat a horseshtein team like the Nationals. But, of course, it wasn't because the Phillies have a geriatric fossil for a closer who should be doing AARP commercials rather than pitching, as a closer, of all things, in the major leagues.
As for Rowand, I liked him on the team and still think it was a mistake not to re-sign him. Not a huge mistake, obviously, because he wasn't worth near what he got paid by the Giants. I don't fault them as much for that as I do for signing shteinbags like Adam Eaton which effectively prevented them from re-signing Rowand.
But that's a different kettle of fish anyway.
You knew things weren't going to go well when their closer started the game.
Quote from: Wingspan on April 01, 2008, 02:43:12 PM
You knew things weren't going to go well when their closer started the game.
amen!
sidenote from the game yesterday
new bank rule in effect that you cannot go up to your seat until the current at bat ends...its so ridiculous...
this isnt hockey or basketball where stoppages occur all the time...at bats can take forever...also in the upper levels of a baseball stadium you dont have a concourse like in areans so what you get is the stairwells becoming unpassable and crowded while waiting for the at to end...and unless youre the first people waiting right by the usher you cant see the game...
furthermore baseball is a sport where people are constantly leaving their seats as opposed to arena sports where you for the most part leave at the end of a quarter or half...thus yesterday there were constantly back ups at the entrace to sections
also in the section next to us a 40 going on 70 year old crack head from kensington had to be carried out after puking herself silly and passing out...it was awesome
Quote from: ice grillin you on April 01, 2008, 04:31:09 PM
also in the section next to us a 40 going on 70 year old crack head from kensington had to be carried out after puking herself silly and passing out...it was awesome
it was also the kid's favorite story from yesterday
They were doing that in spring training in Clearwater too.
Gay.
They've done that at a bunch of ballparks though, from what I remember. We had to wait at Yankee stadium when we went ot those games (one of my best friends in college had seats first row right behind 3rd base). We had to wait going to those seats.
not saying they dont do it other places but ive personally never been to a baseball game where they made you wait and its the first time the phils have done it and its awful
It's common in the lower levels of most stadiums throughout the league.
I have never seen it in the upper levels, including yesterday, there must have been some rogue usher.
Quote from: ice grillin you on April 01, 2008, 04:31:09 PM
new bank rule in effect that you cannot go up to your seat until the current at bat ends...its so ridiculous...
supergay
Quote from: ice grillin you on April 01, 2008, 04:31:09 PM
also in the section next to us a 40 going on 70 year old crack head from kensington had to be carried out after puking herself silly and passing out...it was awesome
superawesome
How did you know she was a Kenso? Did she have summer teeth?
yeah and as i said she looked 50 years older than she really was...kenzo is like porn...hard to fully describe but you def know it when you see it
1. They will miss Rowand and they should have signed him. The ownership is cheap and they used the injury thing as an excuse not to bring him back. He should have been kept and they should just up the goddamn payroll.
2. While bringing Rowand back they should have also invested in some farging bullpen help. WHy is it other teams will sign question marks like Guillermo Mota (roider) who can pitch, or a guy like Chris Resop (ATL) who throws straight gas and they are guys who have a shot to help. The Phillies sign fargbags like Jose Mesa, Sixto Fingers, Rudy Seanez, Francisco Rosario, etc....
3. Brett Myers will win 15.
4. I hate David Montgomery, Ruben Amaro and anyone in that front office.
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on April 01, 2008, 08:09:50 PM
3. Brett Myers will win 15.
Let us know when he plans to get started. Thanks.
Wes Helms DFAed to make room for Seanez. Bye
how bad to you have to be to lose your roster spot to rudy seanez
Quote from: ice grillin you on April 02, 2008, 03:46:00 PM
how bad to you have to be to lose your roster spot to rudy seanez when adam eaton is also on the team
Quote from: SD_Eagle on April 01, 2008, 05:46:54 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on April 01, 2008, 04:31:09 PM
new bank rule in effect that you cannot go up to your seat until the current at bat ends...its so ridiculous...
supergay
Quote from: ice grillin you on April 01, 2008, 04:31:09 PM
also in the section next to us a 40 going on 70 year old crack head from kensington had to be carried out after puking herself silly and passing out...it was awesome
superawesome
How did you know she was a Kenso? Did she have summer teeth?
What the heck is a Kenso or Kenzo (using IGY spelling)?
A Kenso is a troll from Kensington.
farging bums
1 friggin hit and they couldn't even get a man in scoring position.
the worst part is they wasted a hamels start...hes the only guy on the staff that can consistently go deep into games and you gotta win almost all of his starts...now with 3-4-5 coming up youre staring a 0-5 start right in the face
i still dont get why charlie is going with eaton sat
:-D
Cy Redding shut those farg faces down.
6 runs one night; 0 runs the next.
Victorino looks like shtein.
Hamels was pimp.
Letting Eaton start could be a good thing. Root for ligament tears or for him to give up 8 runs in a third of an inning so they will take that piece of trash out back and execute him.
Pray for rain on Sunday.
pray for someone to go down and tell charlie that you dont have to use your number 5 guy this weekend and if you do not only are you losing that game but youre making sure hamels and myers both miss the mets series
At least the Phillies ERA dropped to 6.00 tonight which is nice.
one lousey farging hit! way to go Victorino ya bum.
Nats = 3-0
Mets = 2-1
Braves = 1-2
Marlins = 1-2
Phillies = 0-2
yay last-place April again :yay
Fast starts are overrated.
i think thats like the 14th loss in a row i went to. at least i bought standing room tix then found 2 seats in 114, so that was a victory in itself.
the game was awful, of course. king was money but dear god 1 farging hit against tim redding? awful. classy phils fans started showering the field in hot dog wrappers and water bottles after the game. god i love this town.
I was told in a chat during the game that Tim Redding was "a pretty good pitcher."
I didn't know whether to laugh, cry, or break things.
Quote from: MDS on April 02, 2008, 11:02:51 PM
i think thats like the 14th loss in a row i went to. at least i bought standing room tix then found 2 seats in 114, so that was a victory in itself.
the game was awful, of course. king was money but dear god 1 farging hit against tim redding? awful. classy phils fans started showering the field in hot dog wrappers and water bottles after the game. god i love this town.
Was there some kind of fight going on down in the RF/RF line area? Late in the game you could hear a loud cheering coming from that area and all the people behind the plate were staring down that way.
But for real, this is the Phillies MO and has been for years now...
Slow April
Score runs one night, none the next
Get shut down by a pitcher who has no business shutting anyone down
WHy is it shocking anymore?
yea there was something going on. all i could see was people throwing things in one direction. my guess is some nats fan started acting like a douche and got what he had coming to him.
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on April 02, 2008, 11:28:16 PM
Was there some kind of fight going on down in the RF/RF line area? Late in the game you could hear a loud cheering coming from that area and all the people behind the plate were staring down that way.
there was something going on in the first inning down the rf line as well...you could see everyone looking and hear an icehole chant
My buddy told me this morning they were giving some Mets fan a hard time. Throwing trash at him and stuff. I approve.
Not that the phils would tell us the truth...but the recent roster moves tells me that there is no way Lidge is coming off of the DL this Saturday, you just don't activate a pitcher (Seanez) to help out the bullpen for 2 days in the first week of the season, and they definitely can not carry 13 pitchers (assuming Lidge comes off the DL).
If the saturday timeline was true, and Lidge would be ready on saturday, why sign Seanez and release Helms 2 days beforehand?
I dont think we see Lidge until May, has he even faced a Major League batter in a phils uni yet?
They'll just get rid of Condrey or Lahey. Problem solved.
Yeah, but why not wait until Saturday? You dump Helms when Lidge comes off the DL. I think Lahey is a rule 5 guy, and they like Condrey, he's a good long relief guy.
There was no reason to bring Seanez in unless they were replacing a RP. Seanez + Lidge would be 13 pitchers.
Lidge isn't coming off the DL on saturday. I'd bet your money on it.
Quote from: Wingspan on April 03, 2008, 11:23:53 AM
Lidge isn't coming off the DL on saturday. I'd bet your money on it.
igy will be by shortly with the odds
Quote from: BigEd76 on April 03, 2008, 11:04:14 AM
They'll just get rid of Condrey or Lahey. Problem solved.
or seanez
wing it could be something as simple as they wanted 12 pitchers until lidge came back...they said a couple times they werent comfortable with 11...and helms was never seeing the field as their bench is a strong point...the timing had more to do with them trying to get something for helms rather than release outright...when they realized there was no market for him they waited till last cuts by toher teams got seanz and aced helms
Could be, but I would be surprised if they turned around and cut the guy. You can certianly make it through 3 games with 11 pitchers if you're waiting for your closer to come off the DL...especially if your don't see any reason why he shouldnt come off the DL when originally scheduled.
Lidge is supposed to pitch in clearwater tonight.
My suspicion on this comes from the odd timing of it.
lol, fast starts are overrated
so is good infield defense
another sweep to start the season. gotta love it.
5-0 Nats and still only 1 out in the 1st- they batted around. Howard dropped a throw from Rollins for a sure out and Utley butchered a throw to 1st that would have been a dp
farging bums
moyer wont pitch out of the 5th inning once this year and hes their #3....unreal how this team thought it could win with a moyer kendrick eaton 3-5...whats the over under on number of wins from the 3-5 slots....18?
Of course the bums go down 1-2-3 then Guzman leads off with another double
Quote from: ice grillin you on April 03, 2008, 01:28:53 PM
moyer wont pitch out of the 5th inning once this year and hes their #3....unreal how this team thought it could win with a moyer kendrick eaton 3-5...whats the over under on number of wins from the 3-5 slots....18?
But there was nobody out there even though Santana, Haren, Bedard etc. got moved this offseason. The sooner Gillick is gone the better, he's a million times worse than Wade and that's saying something.
All this talk about over-under wins on Meyers, when will Lidge come back, etc... but somehow Moyer slid under the radar?
slid under the radar are you kidding me?
he was practically done LAST year...and somehow moved UP to the number three slot in the rotation
I thought Kendrick was "a 3"?
Moyer was the #2 after Myers went to the pen last season
the sad thing is on this team he should be
The thing with moyer is that you know in 1 inning whether or not he can give you 5.
Quote from: SD_Eagle on April 03, 2008, 01:45:10 PM
Moyer was the #2 after Myers went to the pen last season
I thought this guy was #2?
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Quote from: Wingspan on April 03, 2008, 01:46:25 PM
The thing with moyer is that you know in 1 inning whether or not he can give you 5.
realize what we are saying here...the teams #3 pitcher AT HIS MOTHERfargING BEST cant get thru the fifth inning
how is that possible
how did this happen
Don't look at me, look at old man gillick signing a 42 year old to a 3 year deal.
5-1 - The 33 year old rookie leads off with a hr
Quote from: SD_Eagle on April 03, 2008, 01:31:56 PM
The sooner Gillick is gone the better, he's a million times worse than Wade and that's saying something.
hahaha, stop
IGY..I'm saying slid under the radar as to he was not talked about that much this off-season in here...as well as the papers.
Almost like he was guarenteed to duplicate what he did last year.
hes not talked about because hes 54 and people know he cant get past the 5th inning...whats there to talk about...
what didnt get talked enough including by me mostly cause it never really hit me is how he is the #3 guy...thats almost incomprehensible to me
You should say it 3 or 4 more times then.
Just to get the point across.
Quote from: SunMo on April 03, 2008, 01:55:33 PM
Quote from: SD_Eagle on April 03, 2008, 01:31:56 PM
The sooner Gillick is gone the better, he's a million times worse than Wade and that's saying something.
hahaha, stop
Eaton, Barajas, Helms, Garcia
Gillick has been a disaster
And Bergman strikes out the side. Where are all the 'its only spring training' people?
picked up bergmann in my fanatsy league specifically cause i knew hed dominate the phils
Spring results are worthless.
This team just starts off slowly. They have for years, and they will for years to come. Get used to it.
Quote from: SD_Eagle on April 03, 2008, 02:19:08 PM
Quote from: SunMo on April 03, 2008, 01:55:33 PM
Quote from: SD_Eagle on April 03, 2008, 01:31:56 PM
The sooner Gillick is gone the better, he's a million times worse than Wade and that's saying something.
hahaha, stop
Eaton, Barajas, Helms, Garcia
Gillick has been a disaster
romero, dobbs, moyer (he's been more good than bad), Iguchi
playoffs
Gillick >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Wade
Quote from: SD_Eagle on April 03, 2008, 02:19:08 PMEaton, Barajas, Helms, Garcia, Fasano, Alex Gonzalez, Mesa, Alfonseca, Rick White, Ryan Franklin
Gillick has been a disaster
Quote from: SunMo on April 03, 2008, 02:26:28 PM
Quote from: SD_Eagle on April 03, 2008, 02:19:08 PM
Quote from: SunMo on April 03, 2008, 01:55:33 PM
Quote from: SD_Eagle on April 03, 2008, 01:31:56 PM
The sooner Gillick is gone the better, he's a million times worse than Wade and that's saying something.
hahaha, stop
Eaton, Barajas, Helms, Garcia
Gillick has been a disaster
romero, dobbs, moyer (he's been more good than bad), Iguchi
playoffs
Gillick >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Wade
The bad FAR outweighs the good. He's been a trainwreck as a GM. Gillick had no hand in them making the playoffs last season. In fact he did more to hurt their chances then he did to help them.
Quote from: BigEd76 on April 03, 2008, 02:26:36 PM
Quote from: SD_Eagle on April 03, 2008, 02:19:08 PMEaton, Barajas, Helms, Garcia, Fasano, Alex Gonzalez, Mesa, Alfonseca, Rick White, Ryan Franklin
Gillick has been a disaster
lol @ calling back up catchers a disaster
i think they are about even...its hard to judge tho because wade could have made eaton like mistakes had he been allowed to spend that kind of money
in the end i wouldnt kill either of them tho simply because the ownership is so restricting
Quote from: Wingspan on April 03, 2008, 02:25:24 PM
Spring results are worthless.
This team just starts off slowly. They have for years, and they will for years to come. Get used to it.
YOU get used to it...im sick of it and its beyond infuriating
Quote from: Wingspan on April 03, 2008, 02:25:24 PM
Spring results are worthless.
This team just starts off slowly. They have for years, and they will for years to come. Get used to it.
Scores are yes, lackadaisical attitudes and being too loose in the locker room are not. They barely made the playoffs last season and let me just remind you it was the first time since 93'
Seanez is on the mound
thats where they will really miss rowand...you have lost his superb leadership and now have a wife beating temper tantrum throwing practical jokester steadying the ship
Quote from: ice grillin you on April 03, 2008, 02:31:16 PM
Quote from: Wingspan on April 03, 2008, 02:25:24 PM
Spring results are worthless.
This team just starts off slowly. They have for years, and they will for years to come. Get used to it.
YOU get used to it...im sick of it and its beyond infuriating
It's not changing for you.
Quote from: ice grillin you on April 03, 2008, 02:39:32 PM
thats where they will really miss rowand...you now have lost his superb leadership and now have a wife beating temper tantrum throwing practical jokester steadying the ship
ha
They started off 0-3 and 0-4 under Rowands superb leadership.
Stop making it like losing rowand is the 2nd biggest loss since Lou Gehrigs "Luckiest man alive speech"
this has nothing to do with starts this has to do with the club makeup...you do know that the season goes till october?...and this is what they have till then
Quote from: SD_Eagle on April 03, 2008, 02:29:17 PM
Quote from: SunMo on April 03, 2008, 02:26:28 PM
Quote from: SD_Eagle on April 03, 2008, 02:19:08 PM
Quote from: SunMo on April 03, 2008, 01:55:33 PM
Quote from: SD_Eagle on April 03, 2008, 01:31:56 PM
The sooner Gillick is gone the better, he's a million times worse than Wade and that's saying something.
hahaha, stop
Eaton, Barajas, Helms, Garcia
Gillick has been a disaster
romero, dobbs, moyer (he's been more good than bad), Iguchi
playoffs
Gillick >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Wade
The bad FAR outweighs the good. He's been a trainwreck as a GM. Gillick had no hand in them making the playoffs last season. In fact he did more to hurt their chances then he did to help them.
Quote from: BigEd76 on April 03, 2008, 02:26:36 PM
Quote from: SD_Eagle on April 03, 2008, 02:19:08 PMEaton, Barajas, Helms, Garcia, Fasano, Alex Gonzalez, Mesa, Alfonseca, Rick White, Ryan Franklin
Gillick has been a disaster
so when ed wade was getting you Turk Wendell and Dennis cook in the push for the playoffs that was better than romero and iguch...interesting
lol at no impact on the playoffs.
get a clue dude
I'll say this...the biggest weakness during wade's era was the bullpen...and with Cook and Wendell...and Mike Williams...he did try and help that. Albeit by ravaging the minors.
They've needed starters for years now, and Gillick does nothing.
Quote from: ice grillin you on April 03, 2008, 02:46:48 PM
this has nothing to do with starts this has to do with the club makeup...you do know that the season goes till october?...and this is what they have till then
There's not a person who has even heard of the phils who believes that.
kyle loshe was nothing?
freddy garcia was nothing? (i know i'll get a smart ass answer yes, but it was an effort to get a legit starter)
if Gillick hadn't been hamstrung by awful contracts with no-trades that Wade had left him, he would've been left a little more budgetary freedom to do something.
i'm not saying Gillick has been great, but to call him a 'disaster' or say Wade is better is just asinine
just to interrupt your infighting....Phils tied up the game still have 2 men on, 1 out and the top of the order up to bat after this pitching change.
Quote from: SunMo on April 03, 2008, 02:59:31 PM
kyle loshe was nothing?
freddy garcia was nothing? (i know i'll get a smart ass answer yes, but it was an effort to get a legit starter)
Garcia was his worst move by far because he not only committed $10 million to him he also gave up Gonzalez and Floyd
Bums might actually take the lead.
wtf they're winning
Quote from: SunMo on April 03, 2008, 02:59:31 PM
kyle loshe was nothing?
freddy garcia was nothing? (i know i'll get a smart ass answer yes, but it was an effort to get a legit starter)
if Gillick hadn't been hamstrung by awful contracts with no-trades that Wade had left him, he would've been left a little more budgetary freedom to do something.
i'm not saying Gillick has been great, but to call him a 'disaster' or say Wade is better is just asinine
Lohse was no different than getting Dennis Cook or Mike Williams at the deadline. Lohse worked out.
The Garcia should never have been an option, he was hurt, and everyone knew it, that was one of the dumbest moves in 10 years.
I didnt say Wade was better than Gillick. But wade wasnt all bad.
Quote from: SunMo on April 03, 2008, 02:59:31 PM
if Gillick hadn't been hamstrung by awful contracts with no-trades that Wade had left him, he would've been left a little more budgetary freedom to do something.
i'm not saying Gillick has been great, but to call him a 'disaster' or say Wade is better is just asinine
He was hamstrung yet got to spend $20 to spend. okay. He's been a disaster.
No doubt the bullpen blows this one
Quote from: BigEd76 on April 03, 2008, 03:10:20 PM
wtf they're winning
did you miss that? I almost did too...Chase just hit into a ridiculously dumb DP, but a hell of an inning.
are you friggin serious....i turned it off
there goes my great fantasy pick up
hahaa, yeah, its 7-6.
And not sure if it was mentioned, but I love these unis.
Madsen goes 1-2-3...Howard leading off bottom of the 7th.
Wheels was just talking about how Gordon would close this game out and it made my skin crawl.
and just a PS...8 singles in that 6th inning.
Amazing how this team can get men on base with none out as frequently as they do and get nothing out of it.
2nd & 3rd with none out and they can't get a run home.
Incredible.
Quote from: Rome on April 03, 2008, 03:31:09 PM
Amazing how this team can get men on base with none out as frequently as they do and get nothing out of it.
2nd & 3rd with none out and they can't get a run home.
Incredible.
You apparently missed the 6th inning?
Quote from: PhillyGirl on April 03, 2008, 03:32:11 PM
Quote from: Rome on April 03, 2008, 03:31:09 PM
Amazing how this team can get men on base with none out as frequently as they do and get nothing out of it.
2nd & 3rd with none out and they can't get a run home.
Incredible.
You apparently missed the 6th inning?
They don't do it every time, duh.
Quote from: PhillyGirl on April 03, 2008, 03:32:11 PM
You apparently missed the 6th inning?
Actually, I did. My internet connection was down. But thanks for asking!
get set for implosion central
how much $$$ romero walks at least one
10 trillion dollars.
Chris Coste is my hero.
I can't stand LoDuca.
Did Eaton really pinch run for Burrell?
ick
BOOM!
IGY just turn it off.
Seriously, why do you even bother? All you do is annoy with your shtein.
Quote from: SD_Eagle on April 03, 2008, 03:11:27 PM
He was hamstrung yet got to spend $20 to spend. okay. He's been a disaster.
english please?
he made moves that got them into the playoffs...which is more than Ed fargING Wade could ever hope to do. to call that a disaster is just asinine and proves you don't quite understand what's going on.
Quote from: ice grillin you on April 03, 2008, 03:40:03 PM
how much $$$ romero walks at least one
Okay, you can owe me.
(http://movies.infinitecoolness.com/23/caddyshack09b.jpg)
Ed Wade did have the good sense to trade away an injury prone shell shocked closer.
Quote from: Wingspan on April 03, 2008, 03:50:22 PM
Ed Wade did have the good sense to trade away an injury prone shell shocked closer.
And brought in 10 others. ;)
Runner on 2nd, 1 out, Victorino up
We all know where this is going.
They just int. walked Chase to get to a 2-4 on the day Ryan Howard.
now intentionally walking howard.
pg's lover can win the game how sweet
nope.
But he's still hot.
Five men on in two innings and none in.
Awesome.
Quote from: Rome on April 03, 2008, 04:06:44 PM
Five men on in two innings and none in.
Awesome.
Yes, teams DO leave men on base.
But since you so conveniently missed the inning that they hit 8 singles and scored 6 runs, shut it.
Tom Gordon being in this game makes me ill. When is Lidge back?
lidge wouldnt be in now regardless
yes he would. Manuel uses his closer tied in the 9th at home. Always has
Quote from: PhillyGirl on April 03, 2008, 04:09:04 PM
Quote from: Rome on April 03, 2008, 04:06:44 PM
Five men on in two innings and none in.
Awesome.
Yes, teams DO leave men on base.
But since you so conveniently missed the inning that they hit 8 singles and scored 6 runs, shut it.
Tom Gordon being in this game makes me ill. When is Lidge back?
I'm supposed to shut it why exactly? How about you ignore my posts if you don't agree with them instead, princess?
only pay attention when they do good, ignore when they do bad
come on romey you know better than to criticize a home team...especially when theyve been doing it for the better part of five years
the ironic part of this game is that they are only in it because the nationals had their own bases loaded no outs and no runs inning
You know what else is amazing? The MLB.TV feed is at least 30 seconds behind the live action.
What the hell?
at least you can get it
The 1.2M stream blows as well. It's no better than last year.
i like the picture but theres no difference btwn the 880 and the 1.2
Did Flash Gordon blow the game yet?
The Racists left three on.
Awesome.
Quote from: FastFreddie on April 03, 2008, 04:24:28 PM
Did Flash Gordon blow the game yet?
He gave it his all but failed
What's his ERA now? 30?
Wheels just said exactly what I posted about the men LOB. Burn him. BURN HIM!
::)
Ex-Brewer with the double!
Quote from: Rome on April 03, 2008, 04:28:59 PM
Wheels just said exactly what I posted about the men LOB. Burn him. BURN HIM!
::)
Are you patting yourself on the back because you said something that Wheels said?
If anything, that makes you look worse. LOL
Quote from: Rome on April 03, 2008, 04:28:59 PM
Wheels just said exactly what I posted about the men LOB. Burn him. BURN HIM!
::)
You're just as smart as Chris Wheeler...
good job there.
I don't think Pedro Feliz has looked at a pitch since St Patricks day
Sarcasm translates so well on the internet.
Game on the line and they waste a lead off double. farging bums.
the LOB totals are OK
i guess this is why the phillies wanted 12 pitchers....whos left?
You know when baseball season has officially started when Manual uses the entire bench in 9 innings.
Quote from: ice grillin you on April 03, 2008, 04:37:54 PM
i guess this is why the phillies wanted 12 pitchers....whos left?
Eaton
Condrey = Lights out!
Wow - nice inning from Condrey.
And the player still hasn't caught up.
who wants to guess who gets the walk off homer. Im going Utley
I heart Jroll.
Back to back int. walks again for Utley and Howard.
Quote from: reese125 on April 03, 2008, 04:45:23 PM
who wants to guess who gets the walk off homer. Im going Utley
i wanna guess who you guess cause youre always right
That was excellent. :yay
Werth up bases juiced, 1 out.
Quote from: ice grillin you on April 03, 2008, 04:50:41 PM
Quote from: reese125 on April 03, 2008, 04:45:23 PM
who wants to guess who gets the walk off homer. Im going Utley
i wanna guess who you guess cause youre always right
feels good when you say that doesnt it. Appreciate it
why do they keep showing that busted looking chick with the ponytails?
Quote from: ice grillin you on April 03, 2008, 04:04:06 PM
pg's lover can win the game how sweet
wooohoo, good call LOL
Bums win! Thats what you get for loading them up.
lol, walk off walk
Werthy?
replay at 7pm for us working people
Quote from: BigEd76 on April 03, 2008, 04:57:15 PM
replay at 7pm for us working people watching the play by play on cbssportsline.com
Quote from: BigEd76 on April 03, 2008, 04:57:15 PM
replay at 7pm for us working people
I worked all day today...and watched
1-161
lol @ easy the negadelphian. you be lisnin to wip too much kid.
1. Why in the farg are they making so many errors? 4 today and 3 in the last two games, right? 7 in 3 games? Jesus christ almighty...play some farging defense you iceholes.
2. I didn't see the game, but was Moyer standing on the mound and watching as Coste set a ball on a tee for tha Nats?
3. Those uni's are fargin sweet
4. Gordon looked like shtein again?
gordon went 3-2 on every batter he faced...got bailed out by a couple bad swings...i love the unis too
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on April 03, 2008, 07:56:55 PM
2. I didn't see the game, but was Moyer standing on the mound and watching as Coste set a ball on a tee for tha Nats?
He didn't pitch well but in his defense that 5 run 1st doesn't happen if Utley and Howard (Rollins was charged with the error for some odd reason) don't make boneheaded fielding errors.
moyers problem is he doesnt have an out pitch which gives him a high pitch count every game and causes him to have to work so hard for every single out and at 45 years old it really wears him down and prevents him from going more than five innings
Quote from: SD_Eagle on April 03, 2008, 08:10:34 PM
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on April 03, 2008, 07:56:55 PM
2. I didn't see the game, but was Moyer standing on the mound and watching as Coste set a ball on a tee for tha Nats?
He didn't pitch well but in his defense that 5 run 1st doesn't happen if Utley and Howard (Rollins was charged with the error for some odd reason) don't make boneheaded fielding errors.
Not shocking that the right side of the inf were butchering it again. Both of them need glove work.
It is shocking that Rollins had the error the other night and that Feliz had one today.
Either way - forget last season iceholes...you didn't win shtein and got swept in the playoffs. Focus and win some games!
The quest for Cy Young starts tonight:
(http://www.hotstovephilly.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/kendrick.jpg)
that began on tuesday when kyle lohse went five scoreless
theres a reason i picked up that dooks in the fantasy league. besides me having next to no pitching, of course.
Quote from: Wingspan on April 03, 2008, 10:55:04 AM
Not that the phils would tell us the truth...but the recent roster moves tells me that there is no way Lidge is coming off of the DL this Saturday,
Lauber, FTL:
QuoteJust returned from the Phillies' clubhouse, where Brad Lidge is present and accounted for. And, before tomorrow's game, he'll be activated from the disabled list.
"Physically, I feel fine," Lidge said. "Facing some major-league hitters will bump up my velocity a little bit more to where I like to be. So, yeah, I'll definitely be ready to throw tomorrow."
Lidge said his fastest fastball clocked in at 93 mph last night in Clearwater, a few ticks below his usual velocity. No word yet on what the corresponding roster move will be, though I think reliever Tim Lahey's days here are probably numbered.
Phils up 6-3...Kendrick has put himself into jams the first 2 innings, had a good 3rd...hopefully he was just warming up those first 2 innings....
Lets not farg up a perfect Philly sports night, dumbasses.
heh, no sooner do I say that do they start to meltdown....
Kendrick's line tonight: 5.0 8 4 4 2 1 0 7.20
i would've let him pitch the 6th, if you're going to let him hit in the top of the 6th, you have to give him more than one baserunner in the bottom of the 6th. he just had a 1-2-3 inning and you're up 3 runs. plus, you know that 2 bullpen guys are unavailable and now the bullpen has to get you 12 outs.
i still say hes in allentown sometime this summer...perhaps when/if benson makes it into the rotation
Benson will replace Eaton.
WHy can't I shake the feeling that Victorino is going to hit like .214 this year? He looks zesty
victorino isnt a full time major leaguer
and you might be right about eaton...that would be the only thing keeping kendrick in the rotation is if eaton or another 5th starter is worse than him
Bums win 8-4. Bullpen with another good outing.
for some reason puddin head charlie used romero in a non-save situation and it was his 3rd appearance in a row. he should've just used seanez another inning
now romero probably won't be available tomorrow night when they need him. and you know they'll need pitchers with eaton pitching.
they wont need any lefty relievers this weekend with dunn and griffey in the lineup
The next person who talks shtein about Cholly is getting punched in the face. Cholly's our manager and deserves our respect.
lol
seriously, the gayest thing ever posted on this board
Your hate for Kendrick, much like your hate for Downie, is retarded.
yo homer bailey you know youre allowed to think players suck and not have to hate him
not all of your favorite teams guys have to be the greatest
Read around, I never said either of them were great.
But they don't suck either. And your hatred of them is retarded and laughable. And the way you back out of making the Kendrick bets after talking a big game makes it even better.
Well done. :yay
i have a thousand bets on this board...i certainly dont need to make another on a pitchers whip...man up and then talk young buck
lohse > kendrick
"Kendrick sucks, he'll never repeat last season, he sucks, will be in the minors by July..........but I want 2 more wins on the bet then the 10 he had last year..."
Bitch to the max.
And yes, I wanted them to re-sign Lohse, too. It doesn't matter who's better between Lohse and Kendrick, all that matters is Lohse > Eaton
Quote from: SunMo on April 04, 2008, 11:54:48 PM
for some reason puddin head charlie used romero in a non-save situation and it was his 3rd appearance in a row. he should've just used seanez another inning
now romero probably won't be available tomorrow night when they need him. and you know they'll need pitchers with eaton pitching.
That was dumb.
Unless he knew that Eaton would get raped tomorrow and he'll have Lahey and Condrey mopping up the shellacking?
Maybe he knows Eaton's secretly been juicing and will dominate tomorrow.
Quote from: SunMo on April 04, 2008, 11:54:48 PM
for some reason puddin head charlie used romero in a non-save situation and it was his 3rd appearance in a row. he should've just used seanez another inning
now romero probably won't be available tomorrow night afternoon when they need him. and you know they'll need pitchers with eaton pitching.
2-160.
Quote from: PhillyGirl on April 04, 2008, 10:07:09 PM
Lets not farg up a perfect Philly sports night, dumbasses.
Sixers won, clinched playoff spot - check
Flyers won, clinched playoff spot - check
Phillies won - check
Eagles traded for Chad Johnson/Roy Williams/Larry Fitz - ??
Almost perfect.
Quote from: ice grillin you on April 05, 2008, 12:28:51 AM
i have a thousand bets on this board...i certainly dont need to make another on a pitchers whip...man up and then talk young buck
lohse > kendrick
puss
Quote from: Munson on April 05, 2008, 12:34:47 AM
"Kendrick sucks, he'll never repeat last season, he sucks, will be in the minors by July..........but I want 2 more wins on the bet then the 10 he had last year..."
Bitch to the max.
And yes, I wanted them to re-sign Lohse, too. It doesn't matter who's better between Lohse and Kendrick, all that matters is Lohse > Eaton
youre clueless on how to wager...how can you not see the difference btwn what someone thinks will happen vs how to bet...its two totally different things...for example if you think an underdog is gonna win outright that doesnt automatically mean that you would just give away the pts
also kendrick could have 11 wins this year and still blow...did you not watch adam eaton last year
Quote from: Wingspan on April 05, 2008, 11:09:20 AM
Quote from: ice grillin you on April 05, 2008, 12:28:51 AM
i have a thousand bets on this board...i certainly dont need to make another on a pitchers whip...man up and then talk young buck
lohse > kendrick
puss
i wouldnt be so mean if i were you...by not taking your gay bet i saved you a piece of cake
No.
you can't spew on about lohse>>>>kendrick if you refuse to put the money on the table to back it up. Well you can...but you look like an idiot.
ok starting now no more predictions calls opinions or claims on the board unless you are willing to back it up with money
LAY THE HAMMER DOWN HAVAS. LAY IT DOWN, BIG FELLA.
I predict that you will all remain idiots.
Maybe, but not including yourself in the group of lovable idiots makes it difficult to back up your claim. Idiot.
Quote from: ice grillin you on April 05, 2008, 11:55:28 AM
ok starting now no more predictions calls opinions or claims on the board unless you are willing to back it up with money
Ha. This from the king of predictions. If I think something will happen, I'll say it. I'm right sometimes, I'm wrong sometimes. It's part of sportstalk. And I can guarantee that I will make no wagers.
Quote from: rjs246 on April 05, 2008, 12:08:09 PM
I predict that you will all remain idiots.
Sure, RJS, take the sure bet.
Quote from: Geowhizzer on April 05, 2008, 12:41:24 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on April 05, 2008, 11:55:28 AM
ok starting now no more predictions calls opinions or claims on the board unless you are willing to back it up with money
Ha. This from the king of predictions. If I think something will happen, I'll say it. I'm right sometimes, I'm wrong sometimes. It's part of sportstalk. And I can guarantee that I will make no wagers.
wow you are REALLY slow
Quote from: FastFreddie on April 05, 2008, 12:34:38 PM
Maybe, but not including yourself in the group of lovable idiots makes it difficult to back up your claim. Idiot.
Who said anything about you idiots being lovable?
shut up, the game is on
Wow, Pat's starting off the season nicely.
And wtf...Eaton doesn't look so bad at all today. I'm SHOCKED.
Quote from: PhillyGirl on April 05, 2008, 02:35:34 PM
Eaton doesn't look so bad at all today. I'm SHOCKED.
Wait for it...
BTW, I don't feel like reading through all the slop to see if someone already mentioned it, but Lidge was officially activated off of the DL (http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=3331128).
The black Adam Dunn breaks the tie with the white Adam Dunn!
FIRE CHARLIE MANUEL
what me and sun talked about last night is exactly what happened...they need romero for the 8th but he wasnt available because bumblefarg for some reason used him three days in a row the third day being in the 9th inning of a four run game after seanez a guy they got to go two innings pitched a great 8th
what happens today eaton gives you a solid seven and you have no way to connect to lidge so you have to over extend eaton and have him pitch the 8th inning when four of the next six in the cincy lineup are lefty hitters...and what happens eaton gives up a hr to a llefty and implodes
1 run does not = imploding
You're such a farging drama queen.
he got taken out cause he was done...leave him in or gordon doesnt save him then its implosion central...there isnt a person on earth that didnt know eaton couldnt make it thru the 8th...but because charlie is a dope he had no choice but to bring him out
manuel is a joke and again committs another fireable offense
what the farg did charlie not walk bako to get the force at home or a dp possibility
five games into the season and charlie cranks up his first L...hes special
why the hell is jimmy throwing to 1st there? awful
to be fair, romero was already warmed up in the 9th because it was a 3 run game at the time. i guess if they is already warm, you might as well use him.
today, eaton was doing great and wasnt even at 80 pitches. they had gordon up, but no reason to not leave him in after the double play.
my biggest beef is the use of chad durbin there. the guy sucks and has always sucked. why hes on the roster is a question in its own self. what exactly has clay condrey done to not deserve to be the 5th guy out of the pen?
and yea, what the farg was jimmy doing there? after he didnt field the ball cleanly, the play was over, but still...you might as well throw home. its the only play.
a. you dont HAVE to use a pitcher that warmed up and b. he never should have warmed up to begin with....until seanez came out in the ninth and gave up a couple runs or whatever...when they signed seanez they pimped him to deathn as the guy that can come out and get you two innings...two innings was all we heard about him...two inning guy...
80 pitches is a ton in your first start after a spring training where you never went above 60...its a lot to ask a good pitcher to go into the ninth this early...to ask adam eaton to do this is unrealistic...not to mention your point is irrelevant because eaton doesnt go out here for the 8th if romero can go today...eaton - romero - lidge....thats it...but if you wanna argue that eaton does go out for the 8th then at least you have romero ready at the first sign of trouble...i guess he was more needed in a four run ninth inning game than a one run 8th inning game...makes sense
I missed the game today because I was out playing golf but it's nice to see things return to normal here.
One question, though: If Lidge was ready to pitch, why the farg was Chad Durbin in there? I realize it was a tie game but if Lidge is ready, why not get him in there instead?
Rollins choked. He had a play at the plate. Eaton started off hilariously bad but wound up pitching a quality game.
Manuel shtein the bed starting with lastnight. Absolutely no reason to bring your best relief pitcher in with a 4 run lead. Then today he should have walked Bako to make it a force out anywhere. Only reasoning I can see is he wanted to avoid the top of the Reds lineup.
One way or another he was going to see the top of the Reds lineup, either in the ninth or the tenth. Maybe he thought they were in Philly? Parks kinda look alike, after all.
what even more pathetic about the romero move is that hes the ONLY lefty in the pen...which means you have to be extra cautious about when you use him cause if hes unavaliable youre double farged becasue hes your best and only
the red lineup going into the 8th inning today went like this
lefty
lefty
lefty
righty
lefty
righty
lefty
and the phillies didnt have a lefty available
part of the problem is they only have one lefty out of the pen. thats on gillick, not charles.
in general its on gillick...but a baboon could have managed the last 24 hours better than charlie
Quote from: Rome on April 05, 2008, 04:08:56 PM
One way or another he was going to see the top of the Reds lineup, either in the ninth or the tenth. Maybe he thought they were in Philly? Parks kinda look alike, after all.
There were runners on 2nd and 3rd with 1 out, pitching to the top of the Reds lineup the following inning with nobody on would have been a lot easier.
The overreactions are comical. Fireable offense? C'mon.
I didn't see the game, and I know using Romero last night was dumb. But once again, sometimes this matchup stuff is overrated. Sometimes, just sometimes, you have to rely on a guy to do his job and get hitters out regardless of the L-R splits.
When your closer is in the game, are you worrying about L-R? No. Its get the farging guy out.
Anyways, it sounds like shteinhead Eaton threw well. I'm shocked.
So Eaton throws his one good game all year and the Phils manage to blow it anyway?
These Philly teams are going to be the death of me.
The Marlins take Wes Helms off the Phils' hands. (http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/news?slug=ap-marlins-philliestrade&prov=ap&type=lgns)
Wes Helms will hit .300 for Florida and probably single-handedly beat the Phillies at least three times this year.
The Phillies are on pace to go 65-97, so there will be a lot of losers that beat them this year.
Quote from: Rome on April 06, 2008, 09:06:59 AM
Wes Helms will hit .300 for Florida and probably single-handedly beat the Phillies at least three times this year.
That would still be a net gain for the Phillies, because Wes Helms beat them single-handedly more often than that last year.
Another trademark Pat Gillick move. Trading within the division is always smart especially when you trade a disgruntled, underachieving player to a team with nothing to lose.
The sad thing is, though, once Gillick is finally gone we'll have his protege' to deal with. Yippee!
he would have become a free agent in another week had they not traded him and florida would have signed him anyway
Jorge Cantu is going to get 90% of the ABs at third anyway
At least three times. Book it.
Cantu's yet another dude I saw play in Durham. I guy I watched the game with was making the awful "Cannot? CANTU!" joke. For serious.
Myers sucks
wow. brutal.
the offense is so pathetic today it really doesn't matter what myers does
Quote from: SunMo on April 06, 2008, 02:03:36 PM
the offense is so pathetic today it really doesn't matter what myers does
Good thing, because he has nothing today. Almost looks like his arm is bothering him.
perhaps a little too much wife beating last night?
So is Myers going to suck all year or what?
YO PHREAK!
just send that money now
lol @ Chucklehead Charlie
2 men on, 2 outs he lets Feliz bat against a RH relief pitcher just into the game, Feliz looks awful striking out, and then after the inning he makes a double switch to bring dobbs in to play 3rd...what a dope.
farging bums
through some medical miracle, Brad Lidge is pitching and looks great...i don't know how though, i mean, he had minor knee surgery, nobody has every recovered from that
DAMAGED GOODS!
DOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOMED!
Quote from: SunMo on April 06, 2008, 03:22:36 PM
lol @ Chucklehead Charlie
2 men on, 2 outs he lets Feliz bat against a RH relief pitcher just into the game, Feliz looks awful striking out, and then after the inning he makes a double switch to bring dobbs in to play 3rd...what a dope.
stop over-anaylzing
forget kendrick
lohse >> myers
Quote from: SunMo on April 06, 2008, 02:03:36 PMMyers is so pathetic today it really doesn't matter what the offense does
Quote from: ice grillin you on April 05, 2008, 11:15:14 AM
Quote from: Munson on April 05, 2008, 12:34:47 AM
"Kendrick sucks, he'll never repeat last season, he sucks, will be in the minors by July..........but I want 2 more wins on the bet then the 10 he had last year..."
Bitch to the max.
And yes, I wanted them to re-sign Lohse, too. It doesn't matter who's better between Lohse and Kendrick, all that matters is Lohse > Eaton
youre clueless on how to wager...how can you not see the difference btwn what someone thinks will happen vs how to bet...its two totally different things...for example if you think an underdog is gonna win outright that doesnt automatically mean that you would just give away the pts
also kendrick could have 11 wins this year and still blow...did you not watch adam eaton last year
You're a bitch plain and simple. Same thing with the Myers bet...No way in hell he wins 15, etc blah balh blah he's not that good....But I want 3 to 1 odds. B-i-t-c-h.
You want odds? Go to Vegas. You wanna run your mouth? Then put your money where your mouth is and stop being a vadge about it.
im a bitch but i be collecting cakes like im a birthday boy
Quote from: ice grillin you on April 06, 2008, 03:20:31 PM
YO PHREAK!
just send that money now
:-D
Negative.
I read that Volquez was nasty today. And honestly, we should have expected this offense to shat all over themselves because they always do that when they fas a gas throwing youngin'. Unless the pitcher they are facing is a junkballing lowlife or some run of the mill scrub, they eat it.
Good to see Lidge back though.
Need The King to throw a beaut tomorrow and then batten down the hatches and pray for life as Moyer, Kendrick and Eaton face The DieHard Feva's.
damm, 6:35 AM HST time start tomorrow. Drop off junior at school, stop for morning brew, should be back by 5th inning and the phils down 6-0.
my girl flew to cincy this morning on business and is currently standing next to utley burrell and howard checking out of the hotel she is checking into
shes trying to figure out how to use her cell phone camera to get a pic
youll also be happy to know that burrell and utley are "unbelievably hott" in person.....i know i am
burrell and utley are hot, but not howard?
racist
(http://www.philaflava.com/forum/images/smiles/dcracistemo0mp.gif)
Quote from: SunMo on April 07, 2008, 08:49:14 AM
burrell and utley are hot, but not howard?
racist
she felt bad about this and so she asked howard to sing an autograph to me which he did on her hotel room key envelope
she's a mets fan anyway, she shouldn't be polluting them
let's go Phils, 12:35
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kyle lohse update
2 gms
1-0 record
12.0 ip
7 hits
0.92 whip
0.00 era
You shouldnt have been such a sissy and taken the bet then, huh?
i dont take gays bets that involve something called whip in them
how about VORP?
stakes is high
Quote from: ice grillin you on April 07, 2008, 10:40:56 AM
i dont take gays bets that involve something called whip in them
sissysayswhat?
The Phillies won the first game that Kendrick started and he looked slightly less brutal than Moyer. Mission accomplished.
sissy make you look funny while stealing money from phreak
Rollins lead off HR
2 run shot Pat Burrell. Bums up 3-0.
It's weird that Pat Burrell always seems to be doing well when the team is losing and vice versa.
Quote from: FastFreddie on April 07, 2008, 12:46:04 PM
It's weird that Pat Burrell always seems to be doing well when the team is losing and vice versa.
That's not actually true at all. But ok.
yeah burell basically kept them alive in the second half last year while utley was out and was their second half mvp
Quote from: FastFreddie on April 07, 2008, 12:46:04 PM
It's weird that Pat Burrell always seems to be doing well when the team is losing and vice versa.
He changed his stance. His weight is shifted more to his back leg which has made his swing more level. His old stance was stiff as a board straight which would make his swing go everywhere.
Naturally, the Phillies wouldn't dare go to the top of the 2nd with that 3-run lead.
Quote from: SD_Eagle on April 07, 2008, 12:52:38 PM
Quote from: FastFreddie on April 07, 2008, 12:46:04 PM
It's weird that Pat Burrell always seems to be doing well when the team is losing and vice versa.
He changed his stance. His weight is shifted more to his back leg which has made his swing more level. His old stance was stiff as a board straight which would make his swing go everywhere.
sonnets for a summer game....with its theme of rebirth...its strong symbols and imagery...the emerald chessboard is without a doubt our most literary of sports
shut up, tubby.
why the hell is there a 1230 game on a monday?
Quote from: FastFreddie on April 07, 2008, 12:55:50 PM
Naturally, the Phillies wouldn't dare go to the top of the 2nd with that 3-run lead.
Your baseball insight is top notch.
Quote from: MDS on April 07, 2008, 01:01:42 PM
why the hell is there a 1230 game on a monday?
why does cole hamels suck in the day?
Victorino has had a nice start to the season. What's he hitting, .030?
Quote from: ice grillin you on April 07, 2008, 12:59:04 PM
Quote from: SD_Eagle on April 07, 2008, 12:52:38 PM
Quote from: FastFreddie on April 07, 2008, 12:46:04 PM
It's weird that Pat Burrell always seems to be doing well when the team is losing and vice versa.
He changed his stance. His weight is shifted more to his back leg which has made his swing more level. His old stance was stiff as a board straight which would make his swing go everywhere.
sonnets for a summer game....with its theme of rebirth...its strong symbols and imagery...the emerald chessboard is without a doubt our most literary of sports
Burrell...yard...2nd today. Holla.
Bums up 4-2
Jenkins yard.
Bums up 5-2.
XM always carries the home team feed, so i am listening to the Reds announcers, and this guy calls the Phillies homeruns the same way he calls a pop foul to the catcher
Quote from: ice grillin you on April 07, 2008, 01:06:31 PM
Quote from: MDS on April 07, 2008, 01:01:42 PM
why the hell is there a 1230 game on a monday?
why does cole hamels suck in the day?
The only theory I have heard that makes sense to me was that it is easier to see the rotation on his changeup in the daylight, so he tends to stay away from it during day games. So when his curve and fastball aren't dead on, he struggles.
Quote from: Wingspan on April 07, 2008, 01:38:30 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on April 07, 2008, 01:06:31 PM
Quote from: MDS on April 07, 2008, 01:01:42 PM
why the hell is there a 1230 game on a monday?
why does cole hamels suck in the day?
The only theory I have heard that makes sense to me was that it is easier to see the rotation on his changeup in the daylight, so he tends to stay away from it during day games. So when his curve and fastball aren't dead on, he struggles.
you mean its not related to pat burrells batting stance?
dick pole is on his way to the mound
Quote from: ice grillin you on April 07, 2008, 02:05:15 PM
dick pole is on his way to the mound
ha I was just going to post that. Wheels said "I love Dick Pole" during Saturday nights broadcast.
If they don't get someone on base this inning, who wants to bet Manuel lets Cole start the 8th.... with hilarious results?
Dobbs PH for Hamels
Right, they got someone on base, so crisis averted.
Gordon 1-2-3 8th ??? ??? ??? ???
yeah, i never thought he'd get anyone out again...WEIRD
Quote from: FastFreddie on April 07, 2008, 02:48:47 PM
Right, they got someone on base, so crisis averted.
why would cole hamels pitching the 8th be a "crisis"?
He'd already thrown 90+ pitches, and it's the 2nd week of the season.
Tom Gordon's ERA is now under 17.
Lidge time
Quote from: BigEd76 on April 07, 2008, 02:54:00 PM
Gordon 1-2-3 8th ??? ??? ??? ???
He drank some of what Eaton was drinking
juice?
Quote from: FastFreddie on April 07, 2008, 02:57:01 PM
He'd already thrown 90+ pitches, and it's the 2nd week of the season.
i mean i have no problem taking him out but hes one of he best pitchers in the entire league...hes not adam eaton and bringing him out in the 8th would have hardley been a crisis
what up norris hopper
LIGHTS OUT LIDGE
yeah...not funny now
damaged goods?
Good thing they brought in Taguchi as a defensive replacement.
paging romero
horrible
although, that was a seriously great strikeout pitch right there.
is this really happening? good god.
Quote from: Don Ho on April 07, 2008, 03:12:30 PM
is this really happening? good god.
??
Game is over dude.
Lidge's velocity is crap right now. He should be in clearwater still. He was barely topping 91 or 92 there.
yay they survived because of a bad strike 3 call by the ump....Phils win 5-3 and split. Time for the Mets.
That was a great 3rd strike. wtf Ed?
Wingspan, he was topping out at 94-95 in Clearwater. That's why he was deemed fit to come back.
Quote from: PhillyGirl on April 07, 2008, 03:11:57 PM
although, that was a seriously great strikeout pitch right there.
i didnt see it but both phillie radio guys said it was a terrible call
I dont care what he was doing vs single A minor leaguers in march, or in a simulated inning, it's meaningless.
One of the knocks on Lidge leaving houston was that he's gun-shy now, and the lack of velocity is not a good sign. he barely hit 93 no more than 1 time in that inning.
Quote from: ice grillin you on April 07, 2008, 03:15:50 PM
Quote from: PhillyGirl on April 07, 2008, 03:11:57 PM
although, that was a seriously great strikeout pitch right there.
i didnt see it but both phillie radio guys said it was a terrible call
I thought it was a great pitch...and you're not going to see me homer it up for Brad Lidge.
But whatever. I've seen zesty pitches called strikes a million times....I thought this was a solid pitch.
Quote from: Wingspan on April 07, 2008, 03:20:31 PM
I dont care what he was doing vs single A minor leaguers in march, or in a simulated inning, it's meaningless.
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You're the one who said that he needs to be back in Clearwater...I'm telling you what he was doing there.
The lack of velocity is due to one of two things...
1) he needs more conditioning
2) he's still shellshocked.
An extended spring training would eliminate or confirm #1
He's not going back on the DL or to the minors for a rehab assignment no matter how many times you post it. He's gotta work things out with the big club because (1) they're paying him a shteinload of money, and (2) they don't have anyone else.
Quote from: Rome on April 07, 2008, 03:42:24 PM
He's not going back on the DL or to the minors for a rehab assignment no matter how many times you post it. He's gotta work things out with the big club because (1) they're paying him a shteinload of money, and (2) they don't have anyone else.
They had a good closer last year, I wonder where he wound up?
lol @ shellshocked...shut up already with that
Quote from: SunMo on April 07, 2008, 03:45:43 PM
lol @ shellshocked...shut up already with that
lol
Quote from: SunMo on April 07, 2008, 03:45:43 PM
lol @ shellshocked...shut up already with that
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raphael is cool but rude (gimme a break)
Quote from: Wingspan on April 07, 2008, 03:44:35 PM
They had a good closer last year, I wonder where he wound up?
Disneyland?
Quote from: Wingspan on April 07, 2008, 03:44:35 PM
Quote from: Rome on April 07, 2008, 03:42:24 PM
He's not going back on the DL or to the minors for a rehab assignment no matter how many times you post it. He's gotta work things out with the big club because (1) they're paying him a shteinload of money, and (2) they don't have anyone else.
They had a good closer last year, I wonder where he wound up?
He could be in relief if they'd signed Lohse.
QuoteLidge bounced a wild pitch that let in a run, then got Javier Valentin on a 95 mph called third strike to end it.
AP recap
shellshockeD!
nm
Quote from: PhillyGirl on April 07, 2008, 04:11:41 PM
QuoteLidge bounced a wild pitch that let in a run, then got Javier Valentin on a 95 mph called third strike to end it.
AP recap
keep changing the subject, it suits you well
QuoteLidge bounced a wild pitch that let in a run, then got Javier Valentin on a 95 mph called third strike to end it.
Dude, I don't think he's good. I know he bounced the farging pitch.
But your whole argument was that he topped out at 93 and you were whining and crying about it.
im the king of inane elongated arguments and this is making me cringe
Quote from: SunMo on April 07, 2008, 04:21:29 PM
keep changing the subject, it suits you well
I'm not changing the subject. Lidge is trash. He's been trash for 2 seasons.
So someone's speed gun said something different then the one i was following. So what? He's still trash.
0.00 ERA, 1 save
game won
I just pre-ordered his hall of fame induction ceremony ticket.
lol @ different speed guns...awesome
Scoot over a little and leave some room on his shaft for me too.
you're trying so hard to hate him that you just make stuff up, it's embarrassing, just admit you don't have a clue what you're talking about and move on.
first he's shellshocked, but then it's the injury, but then he didn't have enough rehab time in florida, but now it's back to shell shocked...he's only throwing 93, oh it's 95? i was looking at a different speed gun, either way, he's trash.
you think he sucks and you try to use whatever you can to make that idea work. it's getting silly.
wait are we whining about his 85 mph sliders?
Sliders are delicious
baseball sucks.
Contract year for Burrell...its showing.
Quote from: SunMo on April 07, 2008, 04:34:49 PM
you're trying so hard to hate him that you just make stuff up, it's embarrassing, just admit you don't have a clue what you're talking about and move on.
first he's shellshocked, but then it's the injury, but then he didn't have enough rehab time in florida, but now it's back to shell shocked...he's only throwing 93, oh it's 95? i was looking at a different speed gun, either way, he's trash.
you think he sucks and you try to use whatever you can to make that idea work. it's getting silly.
mlb.com had speeds posted in-game. if he hit 95..fine. but mlb.com didnt show that. my velocity comment was based on the fact that i thought he was only topping out at 93. Which would suck for a power pitcher if true.
Lidge is still trash. Injured trash that hasnt been effective as a closer since pujols ripped him a poo hole in 2005.
You want to say he had a good outing today? Really?
Quote from: SD_Eagle on April 07, 2008, 08:23:21 PM
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on April 07, 2008, 08:05:06 PM
Contract year for Burrell...its showing.
New stance
We should consult BillyBeane.
If MDS lets him out of the handcuffs and ballgag long enough for him to post.
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on April 07, 2008, 08:29:16 PM
Quote from: SD_Eagle on April 07, 2008, 08:23:21 PM
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on April 07, 2008, 08:05:06 PM
Contract year for Burrell...its showing.
New stance
We should consult BillyBeane.
If MDS lets him out of the handcuffs and ballgag long enough for him to post.
igy was busting my stones earlier for pointing out he's leaning more on his back leg which helped level his swing vice standing stiff as a board. Just thought I'd give you some background.
I hear ya bro, but I was taking a shot at our resident Burrell defender and giving him a shot to break balls since his boy is playing pretty well.
On the real, Burrell needs to keep this up. Hopefully he'll continue to kill the Mets this week.
Also, I'm getting sick of seeing Victorino play like shtein. How 'bout hittin the ball little fella?
Victorino will continue playing like shtein because he sucks.
MDS, do you like Victorino?
Down 2-0 after 4 at Shea
That's better than 5-0 after 1.
choke dog needs to get his head out of his ass
Wingspan, can you verify whether Moyer topped out at 82 or 84 during this game? Thanks in advance. I'm working on some VORP calculations here.
!$%!$ carlos ruiz
Quote from: FastFreddie on April 08, 2008, 03:00:54 PM
Wingspan, can you verify whether Moyer topped out at 82 or 84 during this game? Thanks in advance. I'm working on some VORP calculations here.
It's so cute to see you trying to fit in in a baseball thread.
lol Utley, hit again
bases loaded for choke dawg
Quote from: Wingspan on April 08, 2008, 03:19:38 PM
Quote from: FastFreddie on April 08, 2008, 03:00:54 PM
Wingspan, can you verify whether Moyer topped out at 82 or 84 during this game? Thanks in advance. I'm working on some VORP calculations here.
It's so cute to see you trying to fit in in a baseball thread.
At least I know my place as the comic relief instead of feigning knowledge like some.
BTW, Victorinoey is 2/4 today, for what it's worth.
Quote from: FastFreddie on April 08, 2008, 03:21:44 PM
Quote from: Wingspan on April 08, 2008, 03:19:38 PM
Quote from: FastFreddie on April 08, 2008, 03:00:54 PM
Wingspan, can you verify whether Moyer topped out at 82 or 84 during this game? Thanks in advance. I'm working on some VORP calculations here.
It's so cute to see you trying to fit in in a baseball thread.
At least I know my place as the comic relief instead of feigning knowledge like some.
BTW, Victorinoey is 2/4 today, for what it's worth.
:-D
ha, 2 run error from Delgado, he hit the runner at 2nd base trying to throw a double play
what a dumb farg, go home you POS
Quote from: SunMo on April 08, 2008, 03:21:26 PM
lol Utley, hit again
bases loaded for choke dawg
I am not able to listen or watch today...but was Chase leaning into them, or were the mets sending a message of sorts?
Or was it just crap pitching by the mets?
Quote from: SunMo on April 08, 2008, 03:23:39 PM
ha, 2 run error from Delgado, he hit the runner at 2nd base trying to throw a double play
what a dumb farg, go home you POS
So, Utley got beaned twice in the last 5 minutes?
Quote from: Wingspan on April 08, 2008, 03:25:46 PM
Quote from: SunMo on April 08, 2008, 03:21:26 PM
lol Utley, hit again
bases loaded for choke dawg
I am not able to listen or watch today...but was Chase leaning into them, or were the mets sending a message of sorts?
Or was it just crap pitching by the mets?
sounds like crap pitching, no warnings have been issued, i've been listening all day, not watching
werthless knocks in the human target, phillies lead 3-2
PG will make you hurt for that comment. Werth is dreamy.
Jayson Werth.
This Durbin guy BLOWS.
(http://photos-492.ll.facebook.com/photos-ll-sctm/v203/94/74/515044492/n515044492_659651_9125.jpg)
Durbin sucking made that double play happen.
Quote from: PhillyGirl on April 08, 2008, 03:37:49 PM
This Durbin guy throws crazy double play balls.
i know right!
Your defense of Phillies pitching is maddening.
durbin has been good thus far....youre just looking for things to complain about or youre thinking of jd
That too.
That pitch would have been a LONG HR in CBP.
Quote from: PhillyGirl on April 08, 2008, 03:40:49 PM
Your defense of Phillies pitching is maddening.
who was defending anybody?
i was making a joke that you say the guy blows and he throws a double play...calm down.
Weren't you defending Lidge pretty hard?
absolutely...til the DEATH!
ha
Quote from: PhillyGirl on April 08, 2008, 03:43:46 PM
Weren't you defending Lidge pretty hard?
hes hard for lidge...or he might just hate wing...or both
Quote from: PhillyGirl on April 08, 2008, 03:43:46 PM
Weren't you defending Lidge pretty hard?
I think you're confusing defending Lidge with antagonizing, for sport, those that are attacking Lidge.
Jimmy knocks Ruiz in, 4-2 Phils
Rollins.
hahahaha
Makes the Mets fans SO mad. I love it.
Quote from: SunMo on April 08, 2008, 03:48:28 PM
Jimmy knocks Ruiz in, 4-2 Phils
When does the MVP voting start?
small ball stillupfront's mom
lmfao at the Mets fans they keep showing in the stands.
Quote from: PhillyGirl on April 08, 2008, 03:50:58 PM
lmfao at the Mets fans they keep showing in the stands.
was this one of them
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Utley in that ass
JRoll hurt.
bases loaded with 1 out and they got nothing else.
Werth failed.
lol, they are playing Rick Roll in the stadium
what is rick roll why is it all over the internet all of sudden and why am i already sick of it
Did Romero wear #16 last season?
i'm not sure of questions #1 or #2...but i can answer #3 with great ease:
because you're a miserable queer
you just lol'ed at it...how can you not know what it is
someone said jimmy broke his ankle...is anyone watching the game
he's out of the game because he went back into 2nd base awkwardly, no indication of injury though
Quote from: ice grillin you on April 08, 2008, 04:09:43 PM
someone said jimmy broke his ankle...is anyone watching the game
3-159.
Quote from: ice grillin you on April 08, 2008, 04:09:43 PM
someone said jimmy broke his ankle...is anyone watching the game
someone? lol
someone else said they already amputated...Probably to the 15 DL, should start his rehab assignment in 10 days.
left ankle sprain
now they are saying liz franc
Quote from: ice grillin you on April 08, 2008, 04:26:01 PM
now they are saying liz franc
what are you talking about? Tom McCarthy just said it was an ankle sprain that would be re-evaluated tomorrow.
Rollins was just put down in the locker room.
1-2-3 for Gordon.
game over.
JRoll = Barbaro
Muck the Fets.
Jayson Werth interview.
nice. ;D
Rollin's funeral is saturday.
rip jimmy....you were a great one
Jimmy Rollins > Sean Taylor
farg the Mets. 9 in a row!
I love seeing those miserable bastiches in the stands on TV. Watching the NY feed and hearing them get all down was good too.
Rollins better not be hurt too bad. Hopefully just a mild sprain and not one of those bad ones and hopefully igy's medical insider is wrong too.
Wing, Romero wore #16 last year, yes.
Quote from: ice grillin you on April 08, 2008, 04:04:45 PM
what is rick roll why is it all over the internet all of sudden and why am i already sick of it
It's when you post a link to something but when they click on it, it goes to a video of Rick Astley singing "Never Gonna Give You Up".
I guess you saw in the Mets thread why Shea was playing it.
but i see people using it as a verb...having nothing to do with tricky links or anything like that...like some gay will say "the phillies rick rolled the mets today"
It means farged them up, dummy.
well that would be gay cause it makes no sense. The Phillies didn't provide awesome Rick Astley music. Fark did.
reason #4,764 why the internet is abhorent
shut up and report stupid news no one cares about
:(
If Rollins is out long term (even a 15 day DL stint) who replaces him?
Try Eaton at short.
Eric Bruntlett or Chris Woodward
....
Quote from: Rome on April 08, 2008, 04:45:01 PM
If Rollins is out long term (even a 15 day DL stint) who replaces him?
Eric Bruntlett
With the guy who has never seen a pitch he doesnt like, Shane Victorino, moving up to leadoff.
Quote from: FastFreddie on April 08, 2008, 04:46:20 PM
Try Eaton at short.
Try flying off a building without a parachute.
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on April 08, 2008, 04:34:44 PM
hopefully igy's medical insider is wrong too.
Which one? the Lis Franc insider or the broken ankle one? lol
i didn't get to see the game today but were the mets pitchers actually choking themselves as they threw the ball?
Quote from: phattymatty on April 08, 2008, 04:52:55 PM
i didn't get to see the game today but were the mets pitchers actually choking themselves as they threw the ball?
Pretty much. Schoenwies, Heilman and Joe Smith all choked it up.
Delgado appeared to choke himself on his throwing error in the 7th as well. Good times.
The only thing missing from today's Mets implosion was Billy Wagner. Too bad. Not enough bad things can happen to that shteinkicking redneck douche.
Quote from: Rome on April 08, 2008, 04:59:38 PM
Delgado appeared to choke himself on his throwing error in the 7th as well. Good times.
The only thing missing from today's Mets implosion was Billy Wagner. Too bad. Not enough bad things can happen to that shteinkicking redneck douche.
That was a good play by Chase. He bowed out a bit in the baseline to make Delgado have to throw it around him. Mr. I'm too good to stand for the national anthem threw it into his back.
And Reyes didn't give him a good target either.
This thread got funny for a few posts. Now it sucks again.
Just keeping everyone informed.
Rollins says he's playing tomorrow, but he will have to see how it feels in the morning. He wasn't limping (according to sportsnite) after the game at all.
Quote from: PhillyGirl on April 08, 2008, 06:04:27 PM
Rollins says he's playing tomorrow, but he will have to see how it feels in the morning. He wasn't limping (according to sportsnite) after the game at all.
That's still adrenaline and shtein from the game.
That ankle will feel a lot worse tonight/tomorrow morning.
Rollins is the type of player that'll play through any amount of pain though.
Quote from: Munson on April 08, 2008, 06:07:16 PM
Quote from: PhillyGirl on April 08, 2008, 06:04:27 PM
Rollins says he's playing tomorrow, but he will have to see how it feels in the morning. He wasn't limping (according to sportsnite) after the game at all.
That's still adrenaline and shtein from the game.
That ankle will feel a lot worse tonight/tomorrow morning.
Rollins is the type of player that'll play through any amount of pain though.
Guidel was on DNL about a half an hour ago saying he walked out to meet them just fine (no limp at all) and could have stayed in the game but only at about 50%. I think he misses the next two games max and there's a strong possibility he plays tomorrow.
I love that the bums ruined opening day. Also love the fact that they were boo'd to start the game then the Mets fans turned on their relief pitching late in the game.
I heard that Rollins went across the street and kicked down the new stadium. The guy is nothing short of amazing.
automatic 18 more wins this season. these douches cannot lose to the mets.
shut the farg up munson you stupid POS
:-D
Quote"I think all of us are tired of hearing that the Phils have our number," Mets closer Billy Wagner said. "The Phils don't have our number. We shoot ourselves in the foot every time we go out there. None of us are talking when the Phillies are coming to town that we're going to lose. We're a damn good team."
They showed that clip during dnl. Denial is a beautiful thing
I was just about to post that quote.
Seriously - not enough bad things can happen to that ignoramus. It's too bad he never comes to bat. I would love to see someone cave his farging face in with a heater.
Quote from: Rome on April 08, 2008, 10:18:32 PM
I was just about to post that quote.
Seriously - not enough bad things can happen to that ignoramus. It's too bad he never comes to bat. I would love to see someone cave his farging face in with a heater.
I would still love to hear his reasoning behind throwing at a college kid who squared to bunt on him.
It's going to be nice seeing Burrell rape him again this year.
Quote from: ice grillin you on April 08, 2008, 06:41:52 PM
shut the farg up munson you stupid POS
says the fat man who's never ran enough in his life to sprain an ankle.
Eat me dough boy.
nm
Quote from: Rome on April 08, 2008, 10:18:32 PM
I would love to see someone cave his farging face in with a heater.
...but not Lidge, because he's topping out at 92, 93 at best...
QuoteAnyway, yesterday made nine straight for the Phils against the Mets, just another fun fact to pile on top of the Mets' late-season collapse in 2007 and the Phillies' capture of the National League East. And, yes, the piling on has begun, as Wagner complained after watching a bit of postgame television analysis that he found to be, uh, lacking.
"[A television guy is] in there trying to say it's like an old girlfriend, baggage," he said. "You take her to a date, you dump her, you come back - he's trying to analyze our baseball team to a girlfriend. That's the stupid [stuff] you have to deal with.
"We're a good team and we're going to prove it," Wagner said.
Somebody brought up what Phils manager Charlie Manuel said about the Mets on Monday: "They'll talk, we'll hit. That's the only way I see it."
Billy?
"Tell the hillbilly that that's too late, they've already done that," Wagner said, laughing. "But he's right."
Hillbilly, Billy?
"One to another,'' said Wagner, a rural Virginia native like Manuel. "But you know what? That's right. You know what? When they come here, they bring it. They show up and they play great and that's what we have to do."
Not enough bad things. . .
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I knew steriods farged up your junk, but that is rediculous.
QuoteRollins Scratched From Lineup
Jimmy Rollins is out.
He has been scratched from tonight's lineup against the New York Mets at Shea Stadium because of a sprained left ankle. Rollins, who had been penciled into the lineup earlier this afternoon, injured the ankle in yesterday's 5-2 victory over the Mets on a pickoff attempt at second base.
Rollins had the ankle taped before he took part of the team's stretch a few minutes ago. He was limping noticably. He is having problems moving to his left, so it has been decided he can't play
Quote"It hasn't changed from yesterday," Rollins said. "It never felt bad. It's never been swollen. My mobility going left to right is pretty sore and that's where my game is, especially defensively. Me at 50 percent and Eric (Bruntlett) at 100 percent, I'll take my chances with him. I don't think (it will linger), and I hope it doesn't. It's just sore. It isn't anything more than that right now."
Rollins will have x-rays taken of the ankle before tonight's game. Shane Victorino will hit first in Rollins' absence. Bruntlett will hit second.
If this injury happened later in the season, Rollins said he probably would play. But this is Game No. 9, so there's no reason to rush it.
"I want to go out there and play every day, but Joe Morgan and Milt (Thompson) said it, they agreed, you go out there on a bad ankle you start getting some bad habits at the plate," Rollins said. "My swing feels pretty good right now so I don't want to start that."
mets new stadium looks like its gonna be really good...not as good as erin andrews tho
erin andrews isn't hot, remember?
i always forget that part
Quote from: ice grillin you on April 09, 2008, 07:08:52 PM
mets new stadium looks like its gonna be really good...
It was almost completely privately funded. That pretty much explains it.
Goddamn. :-\
Great job by Kendrick tonight. And an even better job by this defense.
AGAIN, the infield defense is trash. Pure farging trash. Utley let one get through, then Ruiz throws one almost down the line and now Bruntlett looks like a fargwad in trying to field one.
You can only give a team so many chances until they start to take advantage.
Gotta hope for another Phils comeback.
Bruntlett proceeds to make ANOTHER error. 6-1
Then Durbin throws a 59 foot slider, wild pitch 7-1.
Pieces of shtein.
Time for Uncle Charlie to rip into these iceholes for their shoddy defense.
OH MY GOD THEY LOST A GAME IN APRIL THE SEASON IS OVER
youre just salty you started that bum kendrick on your fantasy team....why do you have him again?
Quote from: MDS on April 09, 2008, 08:59:55 PM
OH MY GOD THEY LOST A GAME IN APRIL THE SEASON IS OVER
Its not even about that; its about the motherfargin zesty defense these clowns have been playing since the season started. And its not even Choke Dawg who is makin' the errors. Its guys like Rollins and Ruiz who are pretty good with the glove. Utley is a butcher too, and he's made a few. Then that dope Bruntlett makes two in a row.
Lack. Of. Focus.
Quote from: ice grillin you on April 09, 2008, 09:01:02 PM
youre just salty you started that bum kendrick on your fantasy team....why do you have him again?
i was trying to prove a point but its clearly backfired.
ha
bums
Quote from: ice grillin you on April 09, 2008, 09:15:58 PM
ha
ill give him, paul byrd and that icehole brian wilson one more game to get their shtein in order. OR ELSE THEY GONE.
Quote from: ice grillin you on April 09, 2008, 09:01:02 PM
youre just salty you started that bum kendrick on your fantasy team....why do you have him again?
You could ask the same of SunnyMo, who just picked up Adam Eaton.
Saw the "highlights" late last night...yuck. JRoll, I think it's safe to say a %50 you is better then a 100% whoever else they throw out there at short stop.
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on April 10, 2008, 12:09:54 AM
Quote from: ice grillin you on April 09, 2008, 09:01:02 PM
youre just salty you started that bum kendrick on your fantasy team....why do you have him again?
You could ask the same of SunnyMo, who just picked up Adam Eaton.
he owns the mets...it's as good as gold
plus, i'm in serious danger of not meeting my minimum innings this week
randy miller on wip saying kendrick has thru april then loses his spot to chad durbin and heads off to the lehigh valley
randy miller is also retarded
yeah i think he has thru may
Quote from: ice grillin you on April 10, 2008, 08:43:47 AM
yeah i think he has thru may
I do too, hopefully Anna's ready or close to it by then
that would help...even if benson isnt that great hes at least a major leaguer
rotation by the all star break
king
wife beater
anna
souderton
(not jd) durbin
Tee hee hee... ;D
1-9
souderton sucks
Quote from: EagleFeva on April 10, 2008, 09:08:01 AM
Tee hee hee... ;D
You keep piling up wins against the #4 starter with the MVP out of the lineup, and the Phillies will keep winning division titles. How does that sound?
Quote from: FastFreddie on April 10, 2008, 12:26:54 PM
Quote from: EagleFeva on April 10, 2008, 09:08:01 AM
Tee hee hee... ;D
You keep piling up wins against the #4 starter with the MVP out of the lineup, and the Phillies will keep winning division titles. How does that sound?
pretty much that, exactly.
The Mets better is better than the Phillies better.
yeah, they proved that last year
Last year the Mets bad was worse than the Phillies bad.
this is like the best midget fight ever
you have the losingest team in the history of the world who probably won their last division title for at least the next 20 years talking trash with the team they gave maybe the most historic beat down we have ever witnessed last year
advantage phillies
Die-Hard...you can't possibly think that the Mets best is better than the Phillies.
After Santana, their pitching staff is just as much of a question mark as the Phillies after Cole Hamels.
And the rest of the team? The Phillies have the advantage, sorry...you're way off here.
Well, actually I can.
Right off the bat, if you think Rollins is going to duplicate the season he had last year, then you my friend are way off. On the same token, if you think Reyes is going to duplicate the suckfest he put up in the second half last year, then again you are wrong.
And I love everyones analysis of the Mets pitching staff...First of all, you cant say "after Santana" like you're bypassing him. Much like you cant say that about Hamels...But Santana is in a different league compared to anyone else that sets foot on the mound, so that makes the Mets ace much better than the Phillies...and from that point on, you have 2 fifteen game winners from last season, not to mention Pedro who I will take any day over any Phillies starter besides Cole.
Im not a homer by any means, nor do I think the Phillies suck, much like a lot of you idiots feel about the Mets, but I do think the Mets have the advantage.
Remember people - you can talk all you want about last years collapse leading to the Phillies winning the division, but it means jackshtein as we sit here now.
The Mets blow
Quote from: Die-Hard on April 10, 2008, 04:48:44 PM
Remember people - you can talk all you want about last years collapse leading to the Phillies winning the division, but it means jackshtein as we sit here now.
patently false...keep telling yourself that if it makes you feel better but you dont believe it...1964 still haunts the phillies and 2007 is right there as the same for the mets...it will never go away much less go away seven months later...
for the phillies it was basically their second world series win and will always be a golden moment in franchise history
oh and pedro needs to be barbosaed
lol @ Pedro
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yay another old crappy lefty reliever joins the Phils
Steve Kline signed and will report to Lehigh Valley
Rollins is out tonight.
eaton dealin' again. who knows how long things will hold up, but the law of averages dictates that he should above average this year after being well below average last year.
The offense is brutal without Jimmy.
victorino sucks ass
Shane Victorino is trash offensively and on the bases.
Great OF, but someone needs to tell that farg to get a clue at the plate. Get the bunt down, jackoff. And then quit looking like a gravedigger on the slider at your shoetops.
Bruntlett...how is this guy a ML player? The only thing he's ever done has hurt the Phillies. Stealing 2B and 3B against Wagner a few years ago as an Astro and now playing like crap here.
Victorino out of the game for Werth on the double switch. Good...take a seat Shane.
CHOKE DAWG!!!!!
Bruntlett blows ass. wtf with this guy.
Quote from: Don Ho on April 10, 2008, 10:45:22 PM
Bruntlett blows ass. wtf with this guy.
And of course his failure to advance the runners is immediately followed by a double-play ball.
well at least we get the pleasure of listennig to the Mets broadcast crew on mlb.com. that's always a treat.
i knew flash would do it :paranoid
Quote from: Don Ho on April 10, 2008, 10:50:18 PM
i knew flash would do it :paranoid
What, give up the winning run in the 12th? Like that was a hard guess to make. :boom
He was out.
Terrible call.
I hate flash, hated him since he got here. mother farger :boom
Can't really get on flash for that loss. The offense had their chance with 2 men on and 1 out and Utley hit into a dp. If Rollins plays tonight the bums win this game easily.
gordon did fine...pitched a great inning then was asked to go two and couldnt do it
blame this one on bruntlett and victorino...they were both pathetic
I miss Tomas
Quote from: ice grillin you on April 10, 2008, 11:17:52 PM
gordon did fine...pitched a great inning then was asked to go two and couldnt do it
blame this one on bruntlett and victorino...they were both pathetic
Yep, pretty much. Two shteinheads who could not get bunts down. But then again, getting bunts down has always been a problem with this team. Its pretty sad when The King had to come in and show those two how to lay down a bunt.
I miss Kim Batiste
Sort of due to lose a close game to the Mets after all those last year.
If Rollins can't play tomorrow, the Phillies would be better to;
1. Play Bruntlett
2. Play without a SS
Putting Bruntlett in the 2 hole was assinine. He should have batted 9th behind Eaton
The logic is if Victorino gets on, Bruntlett can bunt him over/stay out of the DP. Feliz and Jenkins aren't ideal options for the 2 hole, so really Bruntlett is the only option.
Of course Victorino also sucks so it would be really nice if Jimmy got his black ass back in the lineup.
That logic is flawed because;
Victorino can't hit and Bruntlett can't bunt.
I hate this team sometimes, especially when they can't make routine plays. Errors all over the goddamn place, pitchers walking everyone and no one getting bunts down.
This sort of mirrored last seasons early series at Shea...farging sloppy. The good news is that come summer, the Phils will beat beatin that ass on the regular again.
I sure hope you're correct as I can't ake a whole summer of this shtein. Victorino's going to find his ass on the bench all summer if he doesn't get with it.
Problem is, who replaces him? Werth? Soooooo Taguchi? If they had a guy who could hit #2, they could drop him to 8th and just use him for his defense, but they have no one to hit 2nd.
Anyways, check this shtein out....from Mike Radano on how the Phillies blow peoples arms out.
QuoteNEW YORK - The relationship between the Phillies and Ryan Madson has become strained due to Madson's recent request for time off.
It's understandable that Madson - who entered the game in the seventh - is concerned about his arm. He lost two months last season after asking for a day off in Colorado and three weeks later he began a two-month DL stint that lasted through the season.
This has led to a current disagreement between the two parties.
After an 8-4 win in Cincinnati last Friday, in which Madson threw a pair of innings - 58 pitches in 3 1/3 innings over consecutive days - the reliever asked for some time off. With a clear memory of last season in place, Madson didn't want to push his luck this year as he had in July of 2007.
"The only other time I (asked for time off) was in Colorado (last July), two weeks before I got hurt,'' said Madson, who missed the final two months last season with a shoulder strain. "I said, 'Can I get a day off,' and I caught a lot of hell for it. I was surprised, because I had never said anything before.
"So going in (the coaches office) again was not what I wanted to do. But I knew if I would have kept throwing through it like I did last year, it would have progressively gotten worse."
"When does he want to pitch? Once a week? Once a month?" pitching coach Rich Dubee said. "We're concerned about him, but sometimes unfortunately you only have so many pitchers out there. Sometimes you have to work around things. Sometimes I guy has to get through an inning to save somebody else.
"Down the road I hope he is (a two-inning pitcher). When he's attacking the strike zone and getting early outs, then he can pitch more than one inning."
WTF Dubee?
Did he hurt himself when he helped pull the tarp over the infield in Colorado in July? What's with Warden Dubee? Sure, screw with the bullpen some more. Mesa's just a phone call away.
You're right about Victorino. Who the hell do you put at #2?
Bring on the Cubs!
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on April 11, 2008, 12:16:44 AM
Problem is, who replaces him? Werth? Soooooo Taguchi? If they had a guy who could hit #2, they could drop him to 8th and just use him for his defense, but they have no one to hit 2nd.
Anyways, check this shtein out....from Mike Radano on how the Phillies blow peoples arms out.
QuoteNEW YORK - The relationship between the Phillies and Ryan Madson has become strained due to Madson's recent request for time off.
It's understandable that Madson - who entered the game in the seventh - is concerned about his arm. He lost two months last season after asking for a day off in Colorado and three weeks later he began a two-month DL stint that lasted through the season.
This has led to a current disagreement between the two parties.
After an 8-4 win in Cincinnati last Friday, in which Madson threw a pair of innings - 58 pitches in 3 1/3 innings over consecutive days - the reliever asked for some time off. With a clear memory of last season in place, Madson didn't want to push his luck this year as he had in July of 2007.
"The only other time I (asked for time off) was in Colorado (last July), two weeks before I got hurt,'' said Madson, who missed the final two months last season with a shoulder strain. "I said, 'Can I get a day off,' and I caught a lot of hell for it. I was surprised, because I had never said anything before.
"So going in (the coaches office) again was not what I wanted to do. But I knew if I would have kept throwing through it like I did last year, it would have progressively gotten worse."
"When does he want to pitch? Once a week? Once a month?" pitching coach Rich Dubee said. "We're concerned about him, but sometimes unfortunately you only have so many pitchers out there. Sometimes you have to work around things. Sometimes I guy has to get through an inning to save somebody else.
"Down the road I hope he is (a two-inning pitcher). When he's attacking the strike zone and getting early outs, then he can pitch more than one inning."
WTF Dubee?
No. And I am no fan of Dubee.
The season is 2 weeks old, he's pitched in 4 games in 11 days and he wants a day off? Please, Madsen is a Hoyda. Has been since 2006.
I get a really bad vibe from this team this year.
Quote from: Wingspan on April 11, 2008, 08:04:03 AM
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on April 11, 2008, 12:16:44 AM
Problem is, who replaces him? Werth? Soooooo Taguchi? If they had a guy who could hit #2, they could drop him to 8th and just use him for his defense, but they have no one to hit 2nd.
Anyways, check this shtein out....from Mike Radano on how the Phillies blow peoples arms out.
QuoteNEW YORK - The relationship between the Phillies and Ryan Madson has become strained due to Madson's recent request for time off.
It's understandable that Madson - who entered the game in the seventh - is concerned about his arm. He lost two months last season after asking for a day off in Colorado and three weeks later he began a two-month DL stint that lasted through the season.
This has led to a current disagreement between the two parties.
After an 8-4 win in Cincinnati last Friday, in which Madson threw a pair of innings - 58 pitches in 3 1/3 innings over consecutive days - the reliever asked for some time off. With a clear memory of last season in place, Madson didn't want to push his luck this year as he had in July of 2007.
"The only other time I (asked for time off) was in Colorado (last July), two weeks before I got hurt,'' said Madson, who missed the final two months last season with a shoulder strain. "I said, 'Can I get a day off,' and I caught a lot of hell for it. I was surprised, because I had never said anything before.
"So going in (the coaches office) again was not what I wanted to do. But I knew if I would have kept throwing through it like I did last year, it would have progressively gotten worse."
"When does he want to pitch? Once a week? Once a month?" pitching coach Rich Dubee said. "We're concerned about him, but sometimes unfortunately you only have so many pitchers out there. Sometimes you have to work around things. Sometimes I guy has to get through an inning to save somebody else.
"Down the road I hope he is (a two-inning pitcher). When he's attacking the strike zone and getting early outs, then he can pitch more than one inning."
WTF Dubee?
No. And I am no fan of Dubee.
The season is 2 weeks old, he's pitched in 4 games in 11 days and he wants a day off? Please, Madsen is a Hoyda. Has been since 2006.
i agree that this is on madsen...you cant pull yourself because you think you
might get hurt...you pull out if you think you
are hurt
but youre wrong about two weeks into the season...pitchers are still building arm strength...60 pitches in 24 hrs is a lot for a reliever...madsen is probably right in that he shouldnt have went in again but that isnt his call and its something a player just cant do
as for the #2 spot put utley there till jimmy comes back
Quote from: Wingspan on April 11, 2008, 08:04:03 AM
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on April 11, 2008, 12:16:44 AM
Problem is, who replaces him? Werth? Soooooo Taguchi? If they had a guy who could hit #2, they could drop him to 8th and just use him for his defense, but they have no one to hit 2nd.
Anyways, check this shtein out....from Mike Radano on how the Phillies blow peoples arms out.
QuoteNEW YORK - The relationship between the Phillies and Ryan Madson has become strained due to Madson's recent request for time off.
It's understandable that Madson - who entered the game in the seventh - is concerned about his arm. He lost two months last season after asking for a day off in Colorado and three weeks later he began a two-month DL stint that lasted through the season.
This has led to a current disagreement between the two parties.
After an 8-4 win in Cincinnati last Friday, in which Madson threw a pair of innings - 58 pitches in 3 1/3 innings over consecutive days - the reliever asked for some time off. With a clear memory of last season in place, Madson didn't want to push his luck this year as he had in July of 2007.
"The only other time I (asked for time off) was in Colorado (last July), two weeks before I got hurt,'' said Madson, who missed the final two months last season with a shoulder strain. "I said, 'Can I get a day off,' and I caught a lot of hell for it. I was surprised, because I had never said anything before.
"So going in (the coaches office) again was not what I wanted to do. But I knew if I would have kept throwing through it like I did last year, it would have progressively gotten worse."
"When does he want to pitch? Once a week? Once a month?" pitching coach Rich Dubee said. "We're concerned about him, but sometimes unfortunately you only have so many pitchers out there. Sometimes you have to work around things. Sometimes I guy has to get through an inning to save somebody else.
"Down the road I hope he is (a two-inning pitcher). When he's attacking the strike zone and getting early outs, then he can pitch more than one inning."
WTF Dubee?
No. And I am no fan of Dubee.
The season is 2 weeks old, he's pitched in 4 games in 11 days and he wants a day off? Please, Madsen is a Hoyda. Has been since 2006.
I'm saying Dubee shouldn't be coming out with that stuff, making it public. Madson, for a guy who cried about being a starter, should have the stamina and ability to pitch more. But if he is feeling hurt, then he should back out. Hoyda or not, they will need him in the later months.
I'm not Madson fan, but he's better than bringing in some shteinbag mid-July like Paul Abbott.
Quote from: ice grillin you on April 11, 2008, 08:24:21 AM
Quote from: Wingspan on April 11, 2008, 08:04:03 AM
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on April 11, 2008, 12:16:44 AM
Problem is, who replaces him? Werth? Soooooo Taguchi? If they had a guy who could hit #2, they could drop him to 8th and just use him for his defense, but they have no one to hit 2nd.
Anyways, check this shtein out....from Mike Radano on how the Phillies blow peoples arms out.
QuoteNEW YORK - The relationship between the Phillies and Ryan Madson has become strained due to Madson's recent request for time off.
It's understandable that Madson - who entered the game in the seventh - is concerned about his arm. He lost two months last season after asking for a day off in Colorado and three weeks later he began a two-month DL stint that lasted through the season.
This has led to a current disagreement between the two parties.
After an 8-4 win in Cincinnati last Friday, in which Madson threw a pair of innings - 58 pitches in 3 1/3 innings over consecutive days - the reliever asked for some time off. With a clear memory of last season in place, Madson didn't want to push his luck this year as he had in July of 2007.
"The only other time I (asked for time off) was in Colorado (last July), two weeks before I got hurt,'' said Madson, who missed the final two months last season with a shoulder strain. "I said, 'Can I get a day off,' and I caught a lot of hell for it. I was surprised, because I had never said anything before.
"So going in (the coaches office) again was not what I wanted to do. But I knew if I would have kept throwing through it like I did last year, it would have progressively gotten worse."
"When does he want to pitch? Once a week? Once a month?" pitching coach Rich Dubee said. "We're concerned about him, but sometimes unfortunately you only have so many pitchers out there. Sometimes you have to work around things. Sometimes I guy has to get through an inning to save somebody else.
"Down the road I hope he is (a two-inning pitcher). When he's attacking the strike zone and getting early outs, then he can pitch more than one inning."
WTF Dubee?
No. And I am no fan of Dubee.
The season is 2 weeks old, he's pitched in 4 games in 11 days and he wants a day off? Please, Madsen is a Hoyda. Has been since 2006.
i agree that this is on madsen...you cant pull yourself because you think you might get hurt...you pull out if you think you are hurt
but youre wrong about two weeks into the season...pitchers are still building arm strength...60 pitches in 24 hrs is a lot for a reliever...madsen is probably right in that he shouldnt have went in again but that isnt his call and its something a player just cant do
as for the #2 spot put utley there till jimmy comes back
Okay;
Hacktorino
Utley
?
Howard
Burrell
Jenkins/Werth
Feliz
Ruiz
Where does Bruntlett go? DO you slide everyone up one? Put Jenkins/Werth at 3? Burrell?
Burrell, I guess, would be the best choice. And he splits up the L-L
i agree neither should have went public....but to be fair dubee went public after madsen...
and madsen didnt say he was hurt or didnt feel good...he said he didnt wanna pitch three days in a row cause he is worried about getting hurt
Hacktorino
Utley
Howard
Burrell
Jenkins/Werth
Feliz
Ruiz
bruntlett
Quote from: FastFreddie on April 10, 2008, 12:26:54 PM
Quote from: EagleFeva on April 10, 2008, 09:08:01 AM
Tee hee hee... ;D
You keep piling up wins against the #4 starter with the MVP out of the lineup, and the Phillies will keep winning division titles. How does that sound?
Keep = every 10-15 years or so, right?
Sounds good to me.
Reigning NL East champs until proven otherwise, brotherman.
Quote from: ice grillin you on April 11, 2008, 09:24:06 AM
Hacktorino
Utley
Howard
Burrell
Jenkins/Werth
Feliz
Ruiz
bruntlett
This is what I would have done too, except I'd of had Bruntlett bat in the 9th spot.
So the Phillies lost last night in 12. That sucks and stuff.
Quote from: SD_Eagle on April 11, 2008, 10:00:07 AM
This is what I would have done too, except I'd of had Bruntlett bat in Clearwater.
I think Feva & Die-Hard should star in a gay television series together. They could call it "The M Word". That would be funny a little bit.
Quote from: Rome on April 11, 2008, 10:16:41 AM
I think Feva & Die-Hard should star in a gay television series together. They could call it "The M Word". That would be funny a little bit.
you could be the third roommate except the M would be for magic
Your mom could make it a foursome. A hot foursome, trust me.
Rollins out again tonight.
Loss
dobbs batting second tonight. im guessing jenkins, ruiz, bruntlett rounds it out.
Brett Myers will be cash money tonight, bitches
good call
I think they should sign Burrell to an 8 year deal.
Quote from: SunMo on April 11, 2008, 07:28:10 PM
good call
He has pitched pretty well despite the two bombs in the 1st.
The one to Soriano was a CBP special.
Burrell has been a farging pimp.
yeah, i know, i was just busting your stones because i read that right after i turned it on and it was 2-0
man...Lidge is garbage...SHELLSHOCKED!
His fastball is topping out at 78 mph tops. Plus I think he's a pedophile too.
Burn him.
Quote from: SunMo on April 11, 2008, 09:30:29 PM
man...Lidge is garbage...SHELLSHOCKED!
Did he hit 93 or 95?
Solid game tonight. I like seeing Howard going to LF tonight.
King Cole goes tomorrow. I hope Rollins is back, but at least Bruntlett wasn't trash tonight.
That little Jap better stop dropping balls out in left.
Quote from: MDS on April 11, 2008, 09:34:17 PM
That little Jap better stop dropping balls out in left.
He's been watching too much Marty Biron.
Quote from: MDS on April 11, 2008, 09:34:17 PM
That little Jap better stop dropping balls out in left.
:-D
QuoteRyan Madson (shoulder) returned to action on Thursday night.
He gave up a hit in one inning of scoreless work. After the game he said that he's not sure he's ready to pitch two innings at a time yet, drawing the ire of manager Charlie Manuel. "We've got 12 pitchers on our staff, somebody's got to goddamn pitch," Manuel said.
Ha, these are the times when it's great to have a salty old guy as manager.
So I bought Extra Innings on digital cable...
and the Phillies are not on tonight. Why the farg not?
And next weekend I only get the Friday night Mets game, not Saturday or Sunday.
farging garbage.
Okay, so next Saturday its because the Mets games are on FOX and ESPN Sat and Sun.
But tonight? 700 start and that doesnt fall under the blackout rules.
i know around here they are on CW57...
but, you can't get them on the chicago feed?
Quote from: SunMo on April 12, 2008, 11:42:03 AM
i know around here they are on CW57...
but, you can't get them on the chicago feed?
Nope. They were on Comcast Chicago last night and tomorrow. They are supposed to be on Comcast Chicago again tonight but for whatever reason InDemand is not showing them on the schedule. I even checked the website for the Extra Innings; nothing.
They are not subject to the blackout rules today (anything before 5pm not shown on Saturdays because of farging FOX's exclusive rights), so what gives?
I guess its MLB Radio night tonight....
Why didn't you just buy the MLB.TV package? Almost every game is on there (other than local blackouts) and it's only $119 for the entire season.
Extra Innings is a waste of money, IMO, especially if you're buying the cable version and not the one on DirecTV.
Quote from: Rome on April 12, 2008, 12:32:55 PM
Why didn't you just buy the MLB.TV package? Almost every game is on there (other than local blackouts) and it's only $119 for the entire season.
Extra Innings is a waste of money, IMO, especially if you're buying the cable version and not the one on DirecTV.
Because I don't have a lap top yet and I didn't want to be glued to the computer only. I wanted to be able to watch the games while chillin on the counch or in bed at night. I watch alot of games and buying the MLB thing would restrict that.
And I am still salty about not being able to have DIRECTV here. Not having a "clear view of a south or southwest sky" has cost me the NFL and MLB packages. ITS A GODDAMN SATELLITE!! Shouldn't just pointing the farging thing at the sky result in picking up a signal from the satellite??!?! You'd think so. Goddamn, I'm pissed.
Oh, and to add insult to this next week when they play Houston Extra Innings will have the games via the CN8 and CSN Philly feeds...but I won't get to hear Harry because they will be blacked out and I will see them on Fox Sports Houston.
farg me.
The guys on the Phils MB explained it to me...
The feeds are on WGN and CW57 tonight, neither of which are carried by EI.
farging communist cable companies.
I'm splitting EI with my roomates. I love it so far, the Mets and Braves games are always on there.
So I signed up for Gameday Audio on MLB.com...so I can listen to the game tonight and in the future when I get the bone on EI.
Problem is, MLB.com will not open the audio for me. I click on the link to listen to a game and nothing happens.
I have my pop up blocker diabled, I have tried it on Firefox and IE7. I downloaded Flash 9 (again), some Microsoft Silverlight bullshtein and everything else it said I needed.
Still, NOTHING.
Baseball hates you Phreak.
Its damning you to hell since you left this area for that hellhole of a State.
I think so too :'(
I am tired of messing with trouble shooting now. I will have to call MLB.com when I get back...I have to at least be able to listen to the game tonight.
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on April 12, 2008, 03:11:03 PM
I think so too :'(
I am tired of messing with trouble shooting now. I will have to call MLB.com when I get back...I have to at least be able to listen to the game tonight.
Phreak,
Are you sure that your cable system doesn't get WGN? That's a pretty prevalent channel.
It's definitely on WGN here in Daytona.
Nope, I checked. But I do have Russian, Chinese and Arabic channels. >:(
Wait I thought they were unwelcoming to any other kind of culture in Texas.
He meant they have 24 hour live feeds to lynchings of those people.
You should come on down, Todd. Check it out. Maybe come down to cover the Rice Lady Owls or something.
Anyways, back to the clusterfarg known as MLB.com...
It is not just me who is having this issue...I found a blog from MLBGameday Support and everyone is having trouble with the audio and video feeds there.
http://gameday.mlblogs.com/archives/2008/03/known_issues_and_troubleshooti.html
I have spent an hour uninstalling and reinstalling, troubleshooting and on the phone with MLB.com and nothing works. But the lady was kind enough to let me know that they may have a response back to me by Wednesday. Well farg, it sure didn't take 4 days to take the money out of my account. farging thieves.
None of this would be happening if MLB (and you can include NFL in there too) didn't have such farged up blackout restrictions. I paid 159 for Extra Innings and I want to see th farging games. But no, because its on WGN and CW57 I get the bone. Well farg you Selig and farg your lawyers too. Eat my ass you money grubbing bitches. So I pay more money because of the stupid rules and now the MLB site is farged up too. Gee, thats great.
Hallejuah holy shtein, where's the tylenol!?!?!
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Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on April 12, 2008, 03:11:03 PM
I think so too :'(
I am tired of messing with trouble shooting now. I will have to call MLB.com when I get back...I have to at least be able to listen to the game tonight.
Phreak,
Are you sure that your cable system doesn't get WGN? That's a pretty prevalent channel.
I feel like a fargbag now...I do have WGN.
It is buried in the 4 million channels on the digital package.
Now I just hope that it isn't blacked out.
you don't deserve to watch them after all this tomfoolery
No, I deserve it more!
I want to see King Cole set down about 15 tonight.
farg MLB.com, I just got a refund from them
5-0 Bums in the bottom of the fifth. Howard just hit a mile high 2 run pop-up dinger to right-center.
Jay - you should have seen it. It was awesome.
Bahaha.
I live 280 miles from Miami which is considered the "home" market for Daytona. This despite Tampa being only 145 miles away. So whenever the Phillies play the Marlins I'm shtein out of luck. That's one of the main reasons I don't buy the extra innings bullshtein.
Phreak I will be Texas (Dallas) for my little cousin's bat mitzvah in late fall. Drive on up and grab a yamakah and come to the service.
Hamels is masterful tonight. Too bad Phreak is missing it.
he said that he found WGN on his cable package, i don't know why the game would be blacked out
people who get on the cell phones, or stand up and wave, or do anything kookey behind the plate or the batter when the camera is on him need to die
Quote from: SunMo on April 12, 2008, 09:19:37 PM
people who get on the cell phones, or stand up and wave, or do anything kookey behind the plate or the batter when the camera is on him need to die
big pet peeve of mine
7 innings, 1 hit, 5 k's
In other news Ryan Madson farging sucks ass.
Quote from: SunMo on April 12, 2008, 09:19:37 PM
he said that he found WGN on his cable package, i don't know why the game would be blacked out
people who get on the cell phones, or stand up and wave, or do anything kookey behind the plate or the batter when the camera is on him need to die
Didn't see that follow-up post. Glad he found it. That's what I'm watching it on, too - unfortunately, not HD, but I'll take what I can get.
As long as that crybaby Madsen can get one more out.
Quote from: SunMo on April 12, 2008, 09:19:37 PM
he said that he found WGN on his cable package, i don't know why the game would be blacked out
people who get on the cell phones, or stand up and wave, or do anything kookey behind the plate or the batter when the camera is on him need to die
Did you notice the dope in the orange shirt who did the "hang loose" hand gesture every time Victorino was at bat?
I kept thinking it's too bad that flag doesn't get smoked and killed with a foul ball right now.
Quote from: Rome on April 12, 2008, 09:33:17 PM
In other news Ryan Madson farging sucks ass.
they need to bring munson in to pitch, 2 years ago he hit 98 on the radar gun and had a curve that would leave you shoeless
lol, awesome
hahaha
About six people just booed Bruntlett for fouling out and the Cubs announcers whined about Phillies fans. You know, because Phillies fans are the white devil or something.
The Jap got a double and drove in the beaner. 6-1 Bums
was ron santo one of the announcers ripping the fans?
Chris Bando is my fourth cousin. That's sort of related, right?
chris BANdo?
oh the irony!
I'm drunker than you and still didn't find that funny.
i'm still giggling at it
Sal Bando should be in the Hall. (Third cousin on that ass.)
another pet peeve...wearing your bluetooth headset in the stands...you're not that important farghead
Quote from: Rome on April 12, 2008, 09:40:53 PM
About six people just booed Bruntlett for fouling out and the Cubs announcers whined about Phillies fans. You know, because Phillies fans are the white devil or something.
Phillies fans >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Steve Bartman
Quote from: SunMo on April 12, 2008, 10:01:10 PM
another pet peeve...wearing your bluetooth headset anywhere or owning a bluetooth or being given a bluetooth and not killing yourself.
Quote from: rjs246 on April 12, 2008, 10:24:54 PM
Quote from: SunMo on April 12, 2008, 10:01:10 PM
another pet peeve...wearing your bluetooth headset anywhere or owning a bluetooth or being given a bluetooth and not killing yourself.
Owning one? If you live in NJ, you don't have a choice unless you want to get pulled over for talking on the phone in the car.
I only use mine in the car, and that involves me actually on a call and not just rolling around like a puerto rican with one on the ear. I really hate everyone who uses one publically, or just wears one as a fashion statement.
Quote from: Rome on April 12, 2008, 09:43:03 PM
The Jap got a double and drove in the beaner. 6-1 Bums
:-D
Quote from: SunMo on April 12, 2008, 09:19:37 PM
he said that he found WGN on his cable package, i don't know why the game would be blacked out
people who get on the cell phones, or stand up and wave, or do anything kookey behind the plate or the batter when the camera is on him need to die
I've always been in favor of employing snipers perched in the light towers, like at The Linc, picking those iceholes off. Douchebag stands up to wave, crack goes the rifle, down goes the douchebag....win win situation.
Quote from: SunMo on April 12, 2008, 10:01:10 PM
another pet peeve...wearing your bluetooth headset in the stands...you're not that important farghead
I like the people who wear those things like a fashion statement. I find myself alternating between laughing at them and wanting to snap their necks. Old men walking around the mall with bluetooth's all lit up like a christmas tree....soccer moms, punk kids, seashell necklace wearing Romes....all die.
I flat out refuse to get one despite probably needing it because of the amount of time I spend driving and talking on the phone. And the lap top sized Blackberry I have isn't the most comfortable thing to hold against your head for hours a day. I will not be one of those homo's with a blue tooth.
Quote from: MDS on April 12, 2008, 08:44:28 PM
Phreak I will be Texas (Dallas) for my little cousin's bat mitzvah in late fall. Drive on up and grab a yamakah and come to the service.
In. Plan that bitch around the Eagles Dallas game. We'll go to some titty bars and I'll buy you a hooker.
As for the game tonight....
Hamels, despite not being able to locate his fastball, was still able to look great. He'd go to that change and it was all over but the cryin'.
Madson is a stinky vadge.
Victorino is hurt too. ANd he just started to get good contact the last two nights. Strained calf muscle. His defense has been butta this year and now with him and Rollins hurting it could get really ugly.
The bench is really short.
So who knew Billy Beane was really gay, i had no clue until i woke up to the sounds of the tv on and some gay kid talking baseball and Billy Beane talking about being an hbionic
Quote from: Seabiscuit36 on April 12, 2008, 11:18:23 PM
So who knew Billy Beane was really gay, i had no clue until i woke up to the sounds of the tv on and some gay kid talking baseball and Billy Beane talking about being an hbionic
I had to read that twice. :-D
I thought you were saying you woke up to a gay porn.
I remember hearing something about it before though. I think he wrote a book about it, did he not?
I think Mark Lemke was a homo too.
Quote from: Seabiscuit36 on April 12, 2008, 11:18:23 PM
So who knew Billy Beane was really gay, i had no clue until i woke up to the sounds of the tv on and some gay kid talking baseball and Billy Beane talking about being an hbionic
Different person. This one was Billy Bean (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Billy_Bean), an outfielder back in the 1980s.
Some icehole was wearing one in the movies the other day and kept getting calls on it. Finally someone (not me) screamed out, "turn your farging phone off, icehole" which, of course, prompted cheers and laughter all around. It was better than the piece of shtein movie we saw, that's for sure.
Quote from: Rome on April 12, 2008, 11:23:29 PM
Some icehole was wearing one in the movies the other day and kept getting calls on it. Finally someone (not me) screamed out, "turn your farging phone off, icehole" which, of course, prompted cheers and laughter all around. It was better than the piece of shtein movie we saw, that's for sure.
He should have had it crammed up his pipe.
So...how many innings does Old Man Moyer go tomorrow? Thinking about him facing Derek Lee (smoothest fielding 1B in the game, BTW), Ramirez and Soriano in that park is not good thoughts
They'll be wearing the 40's butta joints tomorrow. I want one of those
Hacktorino to the DL.
Snelling called up.
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on April 12, 2008, 11:21:06 PM
Quote from: Seabiscuit36 on April 12, 2008, 11:18:23 PM
So who knew Billy Beane was really gay, i had no clue until i woke up to the sounds of the tv on and some gay kid talking baseball and Billy Beane talking about being an hbionic
I had to read that twice. :-D
I thought you were saying you woke up to a gay porn.
I remember hearing something about it before though. I think he wrote a book about it, did he not?
I think Mark Lemke was a homo too.
I think it was MTV's Made or True Life, i have no clue. I just woke up hung over as hell with my other half watching it. VORP{
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Oh, dear God. . .
Quote from: PhillyGirl on April 12, 2008, 10:32:08 PM
Quote from: rjs246 on April 12, 2008, 10:24:54 PM
Quote from: SunMo on April 12, 2008, 10:01:10 PM
another pet peeve...wearing your bluetooth headset anywhere or owning a bluetooth or being given a bluetooth and not killing yourself.
Owning one? If you live in NJ, you don't have a choice unless you want to get pulled over for talking on the phone in the car.
Kill yourself.
Quote from: Seabiscuit36 on April 12, 2008, 10:36:59 PM
I only use mine in the car, and that involves me actually on a call and not just rolling around like a puerto rican with one on the ear. I really hate everyone who uses one publically, or just wears one as a fashion statement.
You too.
Quote from: rjs246 on April 13, 2008, 08:42:55 AM
Quote from: PhillyGirl on April 12, 2008, 10:32:08 PM
Quote from: rjs246 on April 12, 2008, 10:24:54 PM
Quote from: SunMo on April 12, 2008, 10:01:10 PM
another pet peeve...wearing your bluetooth headset anywhere or owning a bluetooth or being given a bluetooth and not killing yourself.
Owning one? If you live in NJ, you don't have a choice unless you want to get pulled over for talking on the phone in the car.
Kill yourself.
Quote from: Seabiscuit36 on April 12, 2008, 10:36:59 PM
I only use mine in the car, and that involves me actually on a call and not just rolling around like a puerto rican with one on the ear. I really hate everyone who uses one publically, or just wears one as a fashion statement.
You too.
and please you? no.
Quote from: rjs246 on April 13, 2008, 08:42:55 AM
Quote from: PhillyGirl on April 12, 2008, 10:32:08 PM
Quote from: rjs246 on April 12, 2008, 10:24:54 PM
Quote from: SunMo on April 12, 2008, 10:01:10 PM
another pet peeve...wearing your bluetooth headset anywhere or owning a bluetooth or being given a bluetooth and not killing yourself.
Owning one? If you live in NJ, you don't have a choice unless you want to get pulled over for talking on the phone in the car.
Kill yourself.
Quote from: Seabiscuit36 on April 12, 2008, 10:36:59 PM
I only use mine in the car, and that involves me actually on a call and not just rolling around like a puerto rican with one on the ear. I really hate everyone who uses one publically, or just wears one as a fashion statement.
You too.
Love Yous
today's game is a national game on TBS at 1:30
Anyone watching the Phillies instead of the FLYERS PLAYOFF GAME loses at life.
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on April 12, 2008, 11:36:26 AM
So I bought Extra Innings on digital cable...
and the Phillies are not on tonight. Why the farg not?
And next weekend I only get the Friday night Mets game, not Saturday or Sunday.
farging garbage.
It's because you are destined to only watch Ed Wade run teams for eternity. The sooner you accept this, the sooner you can ease into your new moniker, HoustonWhore.
BTW, the Phils are at .500 midway through April. How many games under do they finish the month? O/U is 4.
Quote from: rjs246 on April 13, 2008, 11:35:12 AM
Anyone watching the Phillies instead of the FLYERS PLAYOFF GAME loses at life.
The last channel button will get alot of play today.
Quote from: Rome on April 13, 2008, 12:56:13 AM
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Oh, dear God. . .
Who is she and why is she so farging skinny?
Quote from: rjs246 on April 13, 2008, 11:35:12 AM
Anyone watching the Phillies instead of the FLYERS PLAYOFF GAME loses at life.
you do realize hearing about a hockey game is the same was watching it on tv. i cant see the farging puck, its just 10 douchey canadians dancing around wanting to fight each other. hockey is a great sport, but you gotta see it in person to actually understand whats going on.
if only hockey games had commercials and intermissions
darn it!
If only hockey games didn't exist.
Quote from: Sgt PSN on April 13, 2008, 11:58:13 AM
Quote from: Rome on April 13, 2008, 12:56:13 AM
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Oh, dear God. . .
Who is she and why is she so farging skinny?
I thought it was Alyssa Milano....am I wrong?
I was wondering the same thing. It looks like her in the face but I don't remember seeing any pics of her recently that made her look so damn skinny. Not to mention that her arms look extremely leathery.
she DOES have those super hairy Italian arms. I remember meeting her before and was like, all that money and you can't do something about that forest of hair on your forearms?
And yes, she's superskinny right now.
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Jenkins is the lead off guy today. He's never done it, but he is has like 3 double and 2 triples off Marquis and it allows Werth to hit 2nd.
Get the brooms out.
Quote from: PhillyGirl on April 13, 2008, 01:11:57 PM
she DOES have those super hairy Italian arms. I remember meeting her before and was like, all that money and you can't do something about that forest of hair on your forearms?
And yes, she's superskinny right now.
Speaking of hairy italian chicks, we're still waiting for you to take care of the year-'round sweater vest you've been sporting for the last 10 years.
ha...nice
I DO recall hbionic mentioning that you prefer the smooth look.
I have high standards.
Tuned in late, do I blame this on Flash or would I be over reacting again.
Blame the Phillies for not drafting Munson. I heard he threw in the high 90's in high school and got a guy to hit into a triple play with no men on base.
ok, but my pure hatred for Flash begs the question for this outing.
I hate this farging team.
Rudy's dog should be raped.
lol go team
Quote from: Sgt PSN on April 13, 2008, 04:34:40 PM
Blame the Phillies for not drafting Munson. I heard he threw in the high 90's in high school and got a guy to hit into a triple play with no men on base.
Wrong.
The pitch was so powerful it actually got all 3 outs in that inning AND 2 of the outs in the next inning. Which we didn't need to play because I hit a walk off 5 run home run in the bottom of the 9th.
Again, this piss poor defense (thank you Utley and Howard) and the lack of hitting with RISP killed them. They had Marquis on the ropes early and managed to do nothing.
Utley has a tailor made double play and he throws the ball in the dirt, which Howard tries to backhand scoop rather than knock down and that's the ballgame.
iceholes.
And the blown HR call by that pecker head 3B umpire was big too.
Derek Lee gets props though, that guy is the sweetest fielding 1B in baseball. Ruiz's shot in the 9th gets by any other 1B (and would eat Choke Dawg's lunch) but Lee made it look easy.
Sorry but Flyers win >>>>>>>>>> Phillies win. Or loss. Whatever.
Boy that Brad Lidge fella sure looked trashy today again, didn't he?
SHELLLLLLLLLLLLSHOCKED!
QuoteAs it turns out, Wes Helms got traded for $1. That is all the Marlins had to give the Phillies, who agreed to pay his $2.4 million salary this season. (He is under contract next season, though the Marlins could buy him out.)
:-D
bums
Quote
Yet and still . . .
"I saw the ball go over the pole," third-base umpire Adrian Johnson said.
Over the top of the pole?
"Over the top of the pole."
And the television replays that seem to show the ball - hit by DeRosa with no outs in the sixth off Phillies starter Jamie Moyer - sailing to the left of the foul pole, then disappearing behind it?
"What happened is, and we saw the local Philly replay, they show the replay after the ball is well beyond the pole," crew chief Tim Welke said. "And they're looking at a high first angle. And when they say, 'Oh, the ball's foul," the ball's gone above the pole already and now the ball is below the pole and in foul territory because it's curving.
lol
Pathetic.
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jimmy out again tonight
lineup:
werth
ruiz
utely
howard
burrell
jenkins
feliz
bruntlett
eaton
lol ruiz 2nd. wow.
Pat Burrell is Jesus to Mike Richards' God.
Going oppo off of that shteinbag Valverde was nice. Chris farging Snelling went yard too. Then Choke Dawg, who looks more lost at the plate than MDS in a room full of naked women.
Chacon was settin' 'em down pretty good too.
Props to Jenkins for busting it and running through the stop sign to score on that hit too.
Fun game
Wait a minute you know how to type?
No, I pay someone to dictate for me. I only know how to draw in crayon.
Choke Dawg made a good defensive play too; must've been an accident
another decent start from Eaton
Jenkins was out
Eaton pitching well but not getting the wins seems fair.
Utley hit by a pitch yet again.
Some guy named Snelling hits a homer.
How do the Astros still have any closers?
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Ha!
Quote from: FastFreddie on April 16, 2008, 08:34:00 AM
Eaton pitching well but not getting the wins seems fair.
Utley hit by a pitch yet again.
Some guy named Snelling hits a homer.
How do the Astros still have any closers?
Giving up a 3-0 lead in the 9th to lose? Apparently they don't.
Anyone else going tomorrow?
Michael Bourn just homered off of Kendrick. :-D
Quote from: Geowhizzer on April 16, 2008, 08:21:01 PM
Michael Bourn just homered off of Kendrick. :-D
That's awesome on so many levels that I don't even care if it costs the Phillies the game.
ED WADE!
Quote from: FastFreddie on April 16, 2008, 08:54:54 PM
Quote from: Geowhizzer on April 16, 2008, 08:21:01 PM
Michael Bourn just homered off of Kendrick. :-D
That's awesome on so many levels that I don't even care if it costs the Phillies the game.
ED WADE!
You may get your wish, because right now that is the difference in the game.
How many homers did Bourn hit for the Phillies last year? Negative 12?
New closer for the Astros tonight!
someone needs to put choke dog out of his misery...and send down ruiz...i dont care how bad a catcher coste is he should be starting
Rollins got a pinch-hit single, but he was limping BADLY running to first. He looks like he should go on the DL.
Cholly immediately put in a pinch runner.
he should've been put on the DL right after the Mets series
jimmy is better on his vagankle than two thirds of the lineup is healthy
Dobbs strikes out to end the game. Astros 2, Phils 1, thanks to Michael Bourn's HR. :-D
At least KK pitched well. Thusly, his presence on my fantasy team is justified.
ironic too that the worst pinch runner in the league was in there for the phils in the 9th
i guess i'm missing the humor in michael bourn hitting a homerun?
How does irony fit into Taguchi pinch running?
Astros broadcasters were saying tonight that Rollins may be leaving the team tonight/tomorrow due to a death in his family.
The stuff he's saying about running straight ahead bring no problem is junk. Its not just lateral movement, its all movement that he is having issues with.
Tough loss, but unless Utley and Burrell are doing something there is no hope from this offense right now.
Who would have thought that Eaton and Kendrick pitch well enough and the offense struggles?
Oh well...my boy is on the rubber tomorrow. 2/3 Brett, get me IGY's cake.
Choke Dog might strike out 300 times this year.
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on April 16, 2008, 09:31:12 PM
How does irony fit into Taguchi pinch running?
cause bourne won the game and when the phils had a chance to tie it in the 9th they had a 57 year old pinch runner when last year they had bourne who was sick
so not only did bourne win the game they also missed him dearly in the late innings when they needed a base stolen to get the runner in scoring position...which by the way is going to be something that hurts them dearly all year and is an underrated aspect they are missing from last year
He is so off at the plate its ridiculous.
1. Yo Milt, bust out the video tape and show him what he farg he's doing.
2. Howard needs to get his iron glove ass in the cage, after taking a hundred balls at first and work on his farging timing. There is no goddamn reason he should be on his front foot so much. I can understand on a great breaking ball, but on fastballs? Come the farg on. Pull your head outta your ass, Howard.
Quote from: ice grillin you on April 16, 2008, 09:35:30 PM
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on April 16, 2008, 09:31:12 PM
How does irony fit into Taguchi pinch running?
cause bourne won the game and when the phils had a chance to tie it in the 9th they had a 57 year old pinch runner when last year they had bourne who was sick
so not only did bourne win the game they also missed him dearly in the late innings when they needed a base stolen to get the runner in scoring position...which by the way is going to be something that hurts them dearly all year and is an underrated aspect they are missing from last year
a good closer > whatever you just babbled on about
This team sucks. Good thing it's only April.
Quote from: MDS on April 16, 2008, 09:41:12 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on April 16, 2008, 09:35:30 PM
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on April 16, 2008, 09:31:12 PM
How does irony fit into Taguchi pinch running?
cause bourne won the game and when the phils had a chance to tie it in the 9th they had a 57 year old pinch runner when last year they had bourne who was sick
so not only did bourne win the game they also missed him dearly in the late innings when they needed a base stolen to get the runner in scoring position...which by the way is going to be something that hurts them dearly all year and is an underrated aspect they are missing from last year
a good closer > whatever you just babbled on about
i never said to the contrary...i realize its infathomable to you that the phillies could have made a bad trade but this time i wasnt saying that...just that it was ironic that bourne put his team ahead of the phils with a homer and when they had their chance to come back at the end the player they were most missing was bourne
Stop misspelling his name. He's Michael Bourn, not Jason Bourne, dinky head.
GET BOURNE!
get aids.
haha - well done.
Bums are up 3-0 in the 1st.
what the hell was that
Quote from: ice grillin you on April 17, 2008, 08:17:09 AM
Quote from: MDS on April 16, 2008, 09:41:12 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on April 16, 2008, 09:35:30 PM
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on April 16, 2008, 09:31:12 PM
How does irony fit into Taguchi pinch running?
cause bourne won the game and when the phils had a chance to tie it in the 9th they had a 57 year old pinch runner when last year they had bourne who was sick
so not only did bourne win the game they also missed him dearly in the late innings when they needed a base stolen to get the runner in scoring position...which by the way is going to be something that hurts them dearly all year and is an underrated aspect they are missing from last year
a good closer > whatever you just babbled on about
i never said to the contrary...i realize its infathomable to you that the phillies could have made a bad trade but this time i wasnt saying that...just that it was ironic that bourne put his team ahead of the phils with a homer and when they had their chance to come back at the end the player they were most missing was bourne
im sorry i didnt understand the response behind my red tinted glasses
Burrell gets thrown out and then Lee gets gunned the following inning?
Haha. Makes sense.
typical bums
Coste comes an inch from hitting a 3 run homer
Utley hits a ball off the fence with runners on 1st and 2nd but Myers fargs up and only ends up at 3rd
Howard hits into an inning ending dp
still 3-0
wow choke dawg blows....please dont EVER long term deal him
Give the money to Brett Myers (ace!) instead.
That was Dobbsy who almost hit the dinger, not Costey.
Quote from: Rome on April 17, 2008, 01:55:27 PM
That was Dobbsy who almost hit the dinger, not Costey.
SD was just seeing the future, Romey.
ruiz needs to go...coastee all day and night
Pop fly special from Tejada to right, 4-1 Bums.
Quote from: Rome on April 17, 2008, 02:15:49 PM
Pop fly special from Tejada to right, 4-1 Bums.
Can't complain about a power hitter getting a homer, even a cheap one. It's when wimpos like Mike Bourn go yard that you question the park's setup.
That's an out in almost every other major league stadium. And who was complaining?
michael bourn's homerun was legit...jesus christ get over it already
I just felt the essence of a complaint. It must have been Munson using telepathy to post to :CF.
Chasey with the dinger. 6-1 Bums
Chase Ugly HR, 6-1
Bourn's homer was a shot, btw. FF probably didn't see it, though. He was running errands last night.
Quote from: SunMo on April 17, 2008, 02:22:52 PM
michael bourn's homerun was legit...jesus christ get over it already
Bourn for the Phils: 127 AB, 1 HR
Bourn for the Astros: 55 AB, 2 HR
why does it matter what kind of hitter hits the ball...ryan howard can pop one up in that park and get a cheapy and so could shane victorino...its not like there are major leaguers who literally cant reach the seats in some parks
how bad is gee off blum
Rollins might play Saturday maybe, possibly (http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=3351235)
Quote from: FastFreddie on April 17, 2008, 02:30:10 PM
Rollins might play Saturday maybe, possibly (http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=3351235)
hes been day to day for the last four or five games
Bruntlett is farging hopeless.
The Phillies are 4-16 with men on base today. That's incredible.
Quote from: Rome on April 17, 2008, 02:36:35 PM
The Phillies are 4-16 with men on base today. That's incredible.
Hitting .250 is not incredible in a negative or a positive way.
Quote from: FastFreddie on April 17, 2008, 02:42:57 PM
Quote from: Rome on April 17, 2008, 02:36:35 PM
The Phillies are 4-16 with men on base today. That's incredible.
Hitting .250 is not incredible in a negative or a positive way.
you seriously really need to stop talking baseball
Quote from: Rome on April 17, 2008, 02:36:35 PM
The Phillies are 4-16 with men on base today. That's incredible.
Thats impossible, the had 4 hits with runners on in the 1st inning.
phils have 22 lob's in the 6th inning....lolol
Quote from: ice grillin you on April 17, 2008, 02:50:30 PM
Quote from: FastFreddie on April 17, 2008, 02:42:57 PM
Quote from: Rome on April 17, 2008, 02:36:35 PM
The Phillies are 4-16 with men on base today. That's incredible.
Hitting .250 is not incredible in a negative or a positive way.
you seriously really need to stop talking baseball
You tell me what's incredible about 4 for 16, then. If it's simply that they've even had 16 guys on base, then Rome should have said it that way.
I'll stop talking baseball never. You do realize that this whole flap is about me calling Kendrick the 3 and ignoring the 53-year-old Souderton native, right?
Baseball isn't as difficult as you would like to think, Billy Beane.
Quote from: ice grillin you on April 17, 2008, 02:55:50 PM
phils have 22 lob's in the 6th inning....lolol
batters have left 22 people on base
the phils have stranded 9 at the end of 5 innings...
there's a difference.
Baseball is super awesome.
Quote from: FastFreddie on April 17, 2008, 02:59:04 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on April 17, 2008, 02:50:30 PM
Quote from: FastFreddie on April 17, 2008, 02:42:57 PM
Quote from: Rome on April 17, 2008, 02:36:35 PM
The Phillies are 4-16 with men on base today. That's incredible.
Hitting .250 is not incredible in a negative or a positive way.
you seriously really need to stop talking baseball
You tell me what's incredible about 4 for 16, then. If it's simply that they've even had 16 guys on base, then Rome should have said it that way.
I'll stop talking baseball never. You do realize that this whole flap is about me calling Kendrick the 3 and ignoring the 53-year-old Souderton native, right?
Baseball isn't as difficult as you would like to think, Billy Beane.
htting with runners on is a lot easier than hitting with the bases empty...im not gonna get into the definitions of incredible but the fact is you didnt know this
Howard/Burrell btb
8-1 bums
Quote from: ice grillin you on April 17, 2008, 03:03:15 PM
htting with runners on is a lot easier than hitting with the bases empty...im not gonna get into the definitions of incredible but the fact is you didnt know this
The pitcher has to pitch from the stretch and worry about the runners. Yes, that's very confusing for simple-minded folk like me. I wouldn't expect you to try to explain it.
But it's still not incredible.
Preposterous.
Quote from: FastFreddie on April 17, 2008, 03:16:09 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on April 17, 2008, 03:03:15 PM
htting with runners on is a lot easier than hitting with the bases empty...im not gonna get into the definitions of incredible but the fact is you didnt know this
The pitcher has to pitch from the stretch and worry about the runners. Yes, that's very confusing for simple-minded folk like me. I wouldn't expect you to try to explain it.
But it's still not incredible.
actually it has little to do with that and mostly due to a pitcher having to throw strikes with men on
Quote from: ice grillin you on April 17, 2008, 03:22:09 PM
actually it has little to do with that and mostly due to a pitcher having to throw strikes with men on
It's good practice for a pitcher to throw a lot of balls with no men on, though. That way, they can get someone on and just blame the bad outing on how much harder it is to pitch once there's a guy on base.
The past few posts make me long for more talk about Munson.
When Munson throws a ball, he glares up at the scoreboard, changing it to a strike.
Preposterous.
The interview with Ed Wade at the beginning of the game was fascinating. He said he was happy that the fans finally had a winner to celebrate last year but also reminded everyone about the players the Phillies groomed on his watch (Rollins, Utley, Howard, etc.).
The sad thing is he's clearly in range for someone to hit him in the face with a full beer bottle but no one has taken advantage yet.
Romes.
Actually, if wade was just hired as a director of amateur scouting, like he should have been...he'd still be here, and deservedly so. There are a lot of his draft picks in the majors.
However, he is a PR nightmare in front of the camera, and his pro scouting was atrocious. Which is what led him to be such a poor GM.
Yeah, but scouting is way harder with no one on base.
Mike Arbuckle was responsible for a lot of the players Wade took credit for.
Condrey immediately comes in and gives up a dinger and a single back to back.
God he sucks.
Quote from: Rome on April 17, 2008, 03:49:24 PM
Condrey immediately comes in and gives up a dinger and a single back to back.
God he sucks.
If anyone was on base when he gave up the homer, he's not to blame. Blame the game of baseball.
Quote from: Wingspan on April 17, 2008, 03:42:39 PM
Actually, if wade was just hired as a director of amateur scouting, like he should have been...he'd still be here, and deservedly so. There are a lot of his draft picks in the majors.
However, he is a PR nightmare in front of the camera, and his pro scouting was atrocious. Which is what led him to be such a poor GM.
and he was terrible at trading
Quote from: FastFreddie on April 17, 2008, 03:52:25 PM
Quote from: Rome on April 17, 2008, 03:49:24 PM
Condrey immediately comes in and gives up a dinger and a single back to back.
God he sucks.
If anyone was on base when he gave up the homer, he's not to blame. Blame the game of baseball.
Or global warming, whatever.
I think it's Michael Bourne's fault. He shouldn't have hit that home run last night.
Quote from: SunMo on April 17, 2008, 03:53:52 PM
Quote from: Wingspan on April 17, 2008, 03:42:39 PM
Actually, if wade was just hired as a director of amateur scouting, like he should have been...he'd still be here, and deservedly so. There are a lot of his draft picks in the majors.
However, he is a PR nightmare in front of the camera, and his pro scouting was atrocious. Which is what led him to be such a poor GM.
and he was terrible at trading
Which is what i meant on the pro scouting part.
Other than getting Abreu for Kevin Stocker...I can't think of any good moves that he pulled off. The Rolen and Schilling trades alone should have gotten him fired.
Quote from: Wingspan on April 17, 2008, 03:59:11 PM
The Rolen and Schilling trades alone should have gotten him fired.
Polanco was pretty good until they traded him for the murderer.
i figured that's what you meant...
Schilling was one of the top power pitchers in the league at the time and Wade gets:
Omar Daal
Nelson Figueroa
Vincente Padilla
Travis Lee
i mean, that's just pathetic
Scott Rolen
Bud Smith
Polanco (good)
Mike Timlin
just terrible
Two trades that directly resulted in World Series championships for both teams.
I'm surprised Wade isn't in the federal witness protection program after those two farged up moves.
munson made the stocker abreu trade
STOP IT
:-D
I met Eskin today at the game, my life is complete
Quote from: Rome on April 17, 2008, 03:32:08 PM
The interview with Ed Wade at the beginning of the game was fascinating. He said he was happy that the fans finally had a winner to celebrate last year but also reminded everyone about the players the Phillies groomed on his watch (Rollins, Utley, Howard, etc.).
The sad thing is he's clearly in range for someone to hit him in the face with a full beer bottle but no one has taken advantage yet.
Romes.
I read the Inky story on him the other day and it made me want to punch the ever living shtein out of someone.
I swear to christ when I hear/read his patented Ed Wade phrases "kicked the tires" and "couldn't get to the finish line" I want to murder.
And its even worse when that pompous fargbag Ruben Amaro says it.
Houston radio has been ripping Wade already. Several callers too. I love it
Quote from: SunMo on April 17, 2008, 04:03:11 PM
i figured that's what you meant...
Schilling was one of the top power pitchers in the league at the time and Wade gets:
Omar Daal
Nelson Figueroa
Vincente Padilla
Travis Lee
i mean, that's just pathetic
Scott Rolen
Bud Smith
Polanco (good)
Mike Timlin
just terrible
I loved the Dennis Cook, Turk Wendell, Mike Williams trades too. Who else did he get? Someone post his trades so I can get fired up.
NO.
Aaron Fultz, Felix Rodriguez
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farg the bitchass Mets.
I hope they enjoyed their 4am arrival in Philly, come out tired as shtein and The King sets down 10+.
Does anyone know if Rollins is going tonight?
the jap
werth
ace
choke dog
bat
fay-lease
rooz
white dude
king
Quote from: MDS on April 18, 2008, 03:51:07 PM
the jap
werth
ace
choke dog
bat
fay-leasepete happy
rooz
white dude
king
Phils down 1-0. Not an earned run, because they're blaming it on Ruiz.
chase bob finally gets the phils on the board...
this ump sucks if for nothing else he takes forever to call a strike
holy farg...dobbsy!
Ryan Howard is a goddamn disgrace in the field.
His defense again cost them tonight.
Lidge was hitting 95-96. COOKED! DONE! OMG! SO TAGUCHI!
Gotta win tomorrow. And I am going to have to jump through hoops to see the game. FOX is showing the Dodgers-Braves. I think the only way for me to see it is to buy some spanish sports tier because FSE (Fox Sports Espanol) is showing it.
Even some of the games on the EI package have been in spanish. Tampa-Chicago and Seattle-Angels tonight and a couple last night too.
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on April 18, 2008, 09:41:33 AM
farg the bitchass Mets.
I hope they enjoyed their 4am arrival in Philly, come out tired as shtein and The King Johan will still set down 10+.
They sure looked tired didn't they? Wags looked especially tired making the 3 up, 3 down save...
Johan - 28 SO's (tied for the league lead, btw)
Cole - 19 SO's
This is gonna get ugly, man...
i was impressed choke dog made contact against santana. i thought it was a 0-3 with 3 k's for sure.
First time ever seeing Santana so I wasn't expecting much offense. Howard is brutal right now.
farg choke dog and his ridiculous contract demands...hes a god damn butcher in the field and the entire league knows how to get him out...i dont care if his lard carries 45 homers a year out of that bandbox hes not a guy you win with
trade him to the al where hed be a good dh and get top value for him while you can
When Santana was being shopped to the Mets I jokingly said send them Howard, but could you imagine Cole/Santana/Myers as your starting 3? Throw Burrell in the 4 hole and sign a decent 1st baseman. I'm not as down on him as some but starting pitching is where its at.
Quote from: SD_Eagle on April 19, 2008, 09:43:40 AM
When Santana was being shopped to the Mets I jokingly said send them Howard, but could you imagine Cole/Santana/Myers as your starting 3? Throw Burrell in the 4 hole and sign a decent 1st baseman. I'm not as down on him as some but starting pitching is where its at.
I said the same thing, but I wasn't joking. I would have been perfectly fine sending Howard for a pitcher like Santana. Howard isnt signing here long term anyway, and his value was never higher than it was this past offseason(before his arbitration), it could only get lower from here.
I am not crapping on Howard by any means, I love the guy...but in strictly a baseball sense, his 200ks and lack of defense hurt more than the 50 HRs helped.
Quote from: EagleFeva on April 19, 2008, 03:37:23 AM
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on April 18, 2008, 09:41:33 AM
farg the bitchass Mets.
I hope they enjoyed their 4am arrival in Philly, come out tired as shtein and The King Johan will still set down 10+.
They sure looked tired didn't they? Wags looked especially tired making the 3 up, 3 down save...
Johan - 28 SO's (tied for the league lead, btw)
Cole - 19 SO's
This is gonna get ugly, man...
If you people call Hamels "king", what does that make Johan? Pharaoh?
Either Queen or the Pope. The Pope because he was carrying rosary beads while he was pitching.
What's going to get ugly is the Mets bullpen.
Heilman is an automatic HR allowed. Wags? He'll give 'em up soon enough, when it counts the most.
farging a....John Marzano was found dead at his home, i really liked him on DNL and Post Game Live
http://abclocal.go.com/wpvi/story?section=news/sports&id=6091020
holy shtein that sucks
Wikipedia = the quickness.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Marzano (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Marzano)
Quote from: SunMo on April 19, 2008, 02:39:40 PM
farging a....John Marzano was found dead at his home, i really liked him on DNL and Post Game Live
http://abclocal.go.com/wpvi/story?section=news/sports&id=6091020
Holy shtein. :o
I liked him at first but thought he got stupid some times when on WIP.
Damn...
Marzano is going to help the Phillies beat the Mutts today!
I have to watch it in spanish. Its on Fox Sports Espanol, which I just ordered. :-D
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on April 19, 2008, 03:58:21 PM
I have to watch it in spanish. Its on Fox Sports Espanol, which I just ordered. :-D
¡Viva la beisbol!
good start
so benson replaces kendrick carrasco replaces eaton but who replaces moyer in july
so taguchi so sucks
apparently Marzano had a heart attack, fell down some steps and fractured his skull. I hope todd is handling this okay.
wait marzano or marzanos ghost?
Howard is terrible right now. His defense will always blow but if you cant field you better be able to hit. Start doing your job, Howard. And he wants 160 million? farg that.
This offense is putrid.
And I hate Brian Schnieder too.
He always kills the Phillies.
Spanish TV brought to by Omar Minaya.
Vive los Mets!
"Jo-se Jo-se Jo-se Jo-se"
Sing along if you know the words :-D
in other words what beltran meant was just be the flaming faggggggggot youve always been
Is that the song about weird Jersey fools that can't pick a city to root for?
I think youre thinking of that Def Leppard song...
You know, the one that makes weird folks from NC seizure once it hits the speakers.
If that hack Howard turns that DP on Chavez, Phils get outta the inning. But no - it bounces off his glove and he only has to get one. Then the flag Reyes goes yard.
farging bums
Mets up 4-1, Phils have the bases loaded and Willie brings in Heilmann...
Congrats on the win, fellas.
c'mon GEOFF!
i want the pohils to win for no other reason than that annoying nerd met fan behind home plate crys
Heilman > Werth
the phillies strike out more than mds
farg that little orange shirt wearing homo Mets fan...
and farg Jenkins and Werth for striking out.
That icehole Jenkins has Heilman 3-1 and k's on two pitches right down the goddamn middle
farg this team - these guys strike out way to goddamn much. Put the ball in play you lousy bums
Utley
Howard
Burrell
facing off against that rat Wagner.
Single, strikeout..2R bomb.
PLEASE!
So much for that.
farg you Phillies
get ready for the
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Just like last year....Mets win early on. Phillies will win when it counts. Get all your April wins racked up and then watch that bullpen and the rest of the cadavers that Minaya has collected blow up.
I highly doubt that what happened last year will ever happen again - let alone to the same team in back to back years with the same team benefiting.
But hey, if it makes you feel better thinking it will, then I'm all for it.
We shall see, bro.
I doubt the Mets choke it away too. But that's only because by the time August rolls around the Phils are in 1st place and your boys are second.
I just checked the schedule in hopes that the Mets and Phils would be playing each other the weekend I'm down for the Cowboys MNF game, but no dice.
Probably better off - one of us woulda ended up dead :-D
:-D
It would be fun though.
Those Rangers fans up there wouldn't know what to think when we would invade the sports bar.
I am glad I couldn't understand the broadcast today because it seemed like they spent a long time blowing Jose Reyes judging by the amount of camera time that chode got.
It'll be worse tomorrow night, I'm guessing. Joe Morgan wants to buttsex him.
Quote from: Die-Hard on April 19, 2008, 07:34:23 PM
I highly doubt that what happened last year will ever happen again - let alone to the same team in back to back years with the same team benefiting. to a Philadelphia team.
wow choke dog is comically bad at this point. he is a essentially a platoon dh who k's a lot. i dont see how anyone can justify playing him against lhp and in the field. wow. against rhp he can be lethal, but wow. trade him NOW to the AL.
Say wow again, motherfarger.
wow i cannot believe how wowingly awful choke dog is. he is brutal. wow.
better yet say something i wasnt saying a year ago at this time while you killed me for it
So should the Phillies trade him?
Let's say that he bounces back at hits .275 50 130....do you sell high?
the phillies have enough offense with ace, jrol and the bat. they will never come to terms with howard long term because they dont think hes worth it and howard does. yes id trade him and yes igy is always right. we covered that.
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on April 20, 2008, 12:12:51 AM
So should the Phillies trade him?
Let's say that he bounces back at hits .275 50 130....do you sell high?
hes never getting 50 again and without a tee he isnt hitting 275 again hell he might not hit 250 again...but your point is taken and is exactly right....if he even gets close to any of those numbers this year sell sell sell...i would have traded him last year (yes i know that wasnt realistic)
I'm beginning to think so too. Although I think his numbers will reach those that I posted.
But if he gets there, the combination of selling high + his age + no long term deal + his fathers insistence on becoming the next Philadelphia parent to be in the limelight = sell.
Pick out some sucker of an AL team and grab an ace.
The problem here is that Ruben Amaro will be the one doing the dealing.
we agree but for different reasons
you think hes an mvp candidate but should be traded
i think hes a liability and is only going to get worse and should be traded
boston i believe has ramirez and papi as fa's and a good farm system.
youkilis + young pitcher for choke dog?
something along those lines would be good i suppose.
choke dog for seven good pitchers
Quote from: ice grillin you on April 20, 2008, 12:36:38 AM
we agree but for different reasons
you think hes an mvp candidate but should be traded
i think hes a liability and is only going to get worse and should be traded
Well, I think he can hit those numbers this year. But I expect them to decline. So I hope he can hit them once more and then the Phillies deal him.
I hope I am wrong because he has (had?) the potential to be one of the best ever. But his reluctance to go the opposite way like he did as a rook is going to kill his game. Well, that and the fact he's a butcher in the field.
Maybe Seattle would take him for Felix Hernandez. Perfect dream there.
getting king felix is a pipe dream. they play in a giant ballpark, choke dog would be lucky to hit 35 there.
felix would give up more homers in the bank than choke would hit in seattle
I just fear that the Phils will get jobbed in a trade. Whether it be Wade getting worked on the Rolen deal or Gillick getting boned on the Abreu trade (are any of those guys still in the phils system?)
Find one GM who will deal a young pitcher...
Howard to SF for Lincecum? They need offense.
Seems that Howard has started extremely slow the last couple of years. And, like Phreak, I have noticed a disturbing tendency to pull off the ball. That MVP season went to his head a bit too much, I'm afraid.
This year I see a total of about .260, 40, 110 or so. Look good, but with CBP inflation, not exactly stellar.
Almost reminds me of the Bull's decline about the same age. The only problem is that the Bull got started at the MLB level at a much younger age.
to be fair to choke dog, he has hit 64 homers on the road and 63 at home over the last 3 years. so it aint the bank.
the problem is the pathetic average against lhp and all the k's. striking out really isnt that bad in many circumstances, but you just cant do it to excess. against lhp he strikes out once every three pa's (rough estimate, added his ab's + bb's + 25 for hbp's, sac fly's and such). thats really, really awful and it's not even worth it to play him against lhp.
the blue jays just got rid of frank thomas and need a dh. they have to believe they can compete with the yanks and sox this year, so maybe if old man gillick dangles choke dog at the them, he can pick up some young pitching or something (i know nothing about their farm system).
The only thing about that is that the Phils are (or should be) in a "win now" mentallity. They've got too many good players in or entering their prime to trade a player like Howard for prospects who may or may not pan out and may not even be ready to come up for another year or 2.
If they trade Howard then it should be for established players who can elevate this team right now. Not 2 years from now.
And let's face it, Howard puts people in the stands because of HR hitting ability. Hamels is the only pitcher on this roster that people will pay money to see and is one of the few pitchers in the league with that effect. The Phils would likely lose a ton of revenue if they deal Howard for prospects...especially pitchers.
Quote from: MDS on April 20, 2008, 12:57:56 PM
to be fair to choke dog, he has hit 64 homers on the road and 63 at home over the last 3 years. so it aint the bank.
the problem is the pathetic average against lhp and all the k's. striking out really isnt that bad in many circumstances, but you just cant do it to excess. against lhp he strikes out once every three pa's (rough estimate, added his ab's + bb's + 25 for hbp's, sac fly's and such). thats really, really awful and it's not even worth it to play him against lhp.
the blue jays just got rid of frank thomas and need a dh. they have to believe they can compete with the yanks and sox this year, so maybe if old man gillick dangles choke dog at the them, he can pick up some young pitching or something (i know nothing about their farm system).
Word is that the Jays have a prospect that's been tearing it up in Syracuse (Adam Lind) that they'll call up to play OF, and Matt Stairs will shift over to DH.
Adam Eaton. Prime time. National TV.
the most incompetent organization in the history of sports strikes again...Rollins to the DL
Quote from: SunMo on April 20, 2008, 04:41:50 PM
the most incompetent organization in the history of sports strikes again...Rollins to the DL
I'm shocked. Absolutely shocked.
Any bets on when surgery is scheduled?
Quote from: SunMo on April 20, 2008, 04:41:50 PM
the most incompetent organization in the history of sports strikes again...Rollins to the DL
Ahahahahaha....I can only laugh.
Amaro's quotes this week about them not having to put him on the DL are even funnier now.
Incompetent iceholes.
Quote from: SunMo on April 20, 2008, 04:41:50 PM
the most incompetent organization in the history of sports strikes again...Rollins to the DL
Wow, what a farging joke. They can't even make it retroactive because he played yesterday.
Quote from: SD_Eagle on April 20, 2008, 05:11:43 PM
Quote from: SunMo on April 20, 2008, 04:41:50 PM
the most incompetent organization in the history of sports strikes again...Rollins to the DL
Wow, what a farging joke. They can't even make it retroactive because he played yesterday.
exactly...every time he would pinch hit i felt it was dumb because he couldn't run and it was ruining and retroactivity of being put on the DL
the ghost of john marzano strikes again.
They might not win 75 games this year.
Quote from: MDS on April 20, 2008, 05:14:56 PM
the ghost of john marzano strikes again.
did you attend the candle light vigil for him at temple yesterday?
marzano wishes his death was retroactive
Quote from: SD_Eagle on April 20, 2008, 05:20:05 PM
Quote from: MDS on April 20, 2008, 05:14:56 PM
the ghost of john marzano strikes again.
did you attend the candle light vigil for him at temple yesterday?
i texted my editor and told him he died. thats about it. he was annoying and irritating to listen to. seemed like a good guy, though, so obviously it sucks that hes gone. with that said, lol sean taylor is still dead.
This thread is hilarious.
Almost as hilarious as IGY's spewage on the FLyers thread, but not quite.
utley just got a tiny piece of that ball.
your avatar is making me giggle
Great play by Bruntlett to end the game. farg the Mets. I couldn't have handled a sweep at home even though its April and Rollins is out.
Recap of today:
Sixers beat the Pistons take a 1-0 lead
Bums beat the Mets
No dead Philly sports commentators
Quote from: SD_Eagle on April 20, 2008, 11:29:05 PM
Recap of today:
Sixers beat the Pistons take a 1-0 lead
Bums beat the Mets
No dead Philly sports commentators
Well, 2 out of 3 ain't bad.
I about shat myself with joy when the human error himself scooped Bruntlett's throw.
Nice win and Eaton was pretty solid again until the 6th.
WTF is with that little bitch Taguchi though? He's had two balls - LINE DRIVES at that ricochet off his wrist in this series (along with another dropped ball earlier in the year).
Helluva defensive replacement! He gets to the gaps and then drops the balls. Who the hell does he think he is, Todd Pinkston?
What, did he shy away from Pat Burrell?
QuoteApril 20 -- MORE ON ROLLINS | 11:13 PM
So, Jimmy Rollins is taking the blame for not agreeing to go on the disabled list sooner, and before tonight's game, assistant GM Ruben Amaro Jr. admitted the Phillies probably erred by not forcing the issue. These quotes -- from Rollins, Amaro and Charlie Manuel -- come courtesy of colleague Geoff Mosher, who's pinch-hitting at The Bank as I travel to Denver for the opener of the Phillies-Rockies series tomorrow.
Rollins: "Most of it was me. [Athletic trainer] Scott [Sheridan] asked me if I was willing a couple days ago, but my idea was to keep going if I could work on it. You know pain is going to be associated, and that's part of it. I don't mind that. But not being able to go out there and be useful was really the ultimate decision.
"It's going to take, at best, a week before you can go out and play, and that's under very good circumstances. The average time is three weeks, 21 days, so getting on [the DL] now only puts me at 25. I was trying to see how far I could go. There wasn't any swelling. There was just it being tender, and of course, going on the DL is something I don't look forward to."
Amaro: "We had talked through this whole process about whether it made sense for us to DL him. Jimmy didn't feel comfortable with that situation. His ankle continued to feel better. It just got to the point where it maxed out. He didn't get to the point where he could play like Jimmy Rollins could play without risking more injury and we agreed."
Manuel: "When he first got hurt, and he came out the next day, the way he was moving around I didn't think it was going to be very long. I definitely didn't think it was going to be 10 days to two weeks or something like that. But that's why you got doctors and that's why there are trainers, and that's why I'm not a doctor and I'm not a trainer."
Coaches have to put their farging foot down on this shtein. The same thing happens with McNabb and Reid.
Why are there even coaches and personnel guys if the players can make decisions like this?
Anyway, none of this will matter if Jimmy's still not 100% when he comes off the DL.
The responsibility for Rollins lies with Rollins and no one else. If he isn't completely forthcoming with the training staff on something like this then they're essentially blameless in this case.
(http://philadelphia.phillies.mlb.com/images/players/mugshot/ph_454533.jpg)
Yeah, I can't really put too much blame on the coaching staff for JRoll. If the reigning MVP says that he'll be good to go after a few days of rest, then I don't see the problem in taking his word for it. JRoll is a professional athlete and a damn good one at that. If he tells me he doesn't need to go on the DL, I'd believe him too.
And I don't think that Jimmy wasn't being forthcoming about anything. I think he believed he only needed a few days rest. It's just a tricky situation that didn't work out in anyone's favor. It happens sometimes. Unless you're the Phillies. Then it happens alot.
yeah, athletes never lie about their health
MRI's and X-Rays don't lie. If it was a bad sprain, he should have been on the DL within 48 hours.
how about the fact that HE COULDNT GO OUT AND PLAY FOR TEN STRAIGHT DAYS
If he couldn't go it was his job to tell the team that. I know the urge to blame everything that goes wrong in the organization is well-founded considering their past track record but the player has to be forthcoming about his health. If he isn't then you can't blame the medical staff. I mean, it's not as if he had an injury that was 100% definable.
Quote from: Rome on April 21, 2008, 12:17:26 PM
If he couldn't go it was his job to tell the team that.
what are you talking about he told them every day for ten straight days
day 1
team: jimmy can you go tonight?
jimmy: not yet still hurt
repeat for two weeks
any idiot who's ever played sports and sprained an ankle knows the only way it gets better is with rest. Not testing it out every day and pinch hitting. if they put him on the shelf the day after the sprain he's back in 15 days, not in 1 month.
Quote from: ice grillin you on April 21, 2008, 11:56:05 AM
(http://philadelphia.phillies.mlb.com/images/players/mugshot/ph_454533.jpg)
Dukes of Hazzard?
Without looking it up, guess what team he came from. It should be easy considering the GM...
Bohners for all.
Mark Redman
Jeff Francis
Dave Bush
Ben Sheets
W-L-W-L?
But this is the Phillies, so it'll be L-W-L-W
Or more likely....L-L-L-L
The Phillies will win tonight. Bruntlett will have a game-winning safe-on-error.
I don't have CN8 anymore but did I read gamecast right that Werth hit and inside the parker?
yup, then Chase hit a regular HR to go back-to-back (tied the Phils record, 5 games in a row)
wtf Chase almost hit another one to tie it. Must be the roids
wow Charlie gets away with another boneheaded move. He pinch ran for Burrell on 1st again.....WHILE HOWARD IS ON 2ND WITH 2 OUTS
a walk and double later, TJ Bohn scores the go-ahead run :-D
ruiz! manuel is a moron, though. how can you take burrell out with choke dog clogging up the bases in front of him. did he pass grade school?
Well, he took Burrell out because of the whole defensive thing regardless of Chokesalot on 2nd. But knowing how the "defensive" replacements haven't been so goddamn defensive, he should stop taking Pat out.
The jap drops balls all the time and now the lost member of Hanson drops one - farging idiot.
But that dumb shtein redeems himself with a 2R double.
9-5 Phils.
Lidge comes in and shuts em down
Phils win 9-5 :yay
choke dawg coming through, bohn seals it. helped ease some of the pain of the Flyers performance, not much but now I may not hit my wife.
Quote from: Don Ho on April 22, 2008, 12:02:30 AMchoke dawg coming through
huh? He was still brutal tonight...
But his average is now up to .200!
WTF is up with the Marlins and why are they in 1st? Go on a losing streak already.
1. they're beating up on the Nationals and Pirates
2. undefeated in 1-run games
3. Hanley is on a tear right now
4. Olsen has been great
Hanley is a pimp. Hindsight says he should be playing 3B for the Phillies if they only would have dealt Wagner to Boston.
Olsen is a shteinhead who I hope shreds every ligament in his arm.
I looked all over TV tonight and couldn't find this game. Oh well. At least they won.
That's a great story. Thanks for sharing.
Quote from: BigEd76 on April 21, 2008, 11:11:59 PM
wow Charlie gets away with another boneheaded move. He pinch ran for Burrell on 1st again.....WHILE HOWARD IS ON 2ND WITH 2 OUTS
lol...yeah i was listening to this on the way home from the flyer game and almost drove off the road in anger...to be honest i dont know what hes doing taking burrell out of a close game at coors field in the first place...that game could have easily gone 12-10 or some shtein like that...you dont play for defense in that stadium like you would in other places
Doesn't Taguchi have a bunch of errors this season anyway?
Whatever, they needed the win. Glad they got it.
cholly's a great manager and a fine human being. and he speaks jap too.
whoever the defensive replacement is is better than burrell no matter how many errors they have had this year...but my point is why would you take one of the hottest hitters in the league who hit a homer earlier in the game out of your lineup down one run at coors field
i can see the move in almost any other ballpark they play in but not coors field. cholly screwed rjs' pooch on that move but he does that sort of shtein all the time so what's the difference?
if Burrell wasn't ran for, the game is tied going to the bottom of the 8th instead of a 6-5 lead.
It's really pretty simple on this one. You don't play for extra innings, especially on the road. Manuel was going for the win in the 8th before the wasteland part of the lineup came up. And the move worked. Bohn scored on the same hit as howard...and to top it off Bohn doubled in the 9th to give 2 extra insurance runs.
Yet the same grumpy old men contingent here sit around bitching about a substitution that worked, in a game that was won. :-D
Quote from: Rome on April 22, 2008, 08:18:24 AM
i can see the move in almost any other ballpark they play in but not coors field. cholly screwed rjs' pooch on that move but he does that sort of shtein all the time so what's the difference?
actually in any park putting a pinch runner behind howard is assinine...i was talking in a general sense coors field you dont wanna play defense when youre up one or two runs much less down a run
Yeah, really, why would you even consider playing defense?
Emmitt Smit say Bat Purrel donot play the good defence. Philly need to draft Keith River.
you have shane victor at cf....he had been banged up....and you had aron rowin at cf he was sent sailin to san francisco or the windy city so to speak
utely's play with the bases loaded in the 3rd was farging sick
i'm calling him for mvp, in april
you think he'll pick up?
Quote from: SunMo on April 22, 2008, 09:02:44 AM
utely's play with the bases loaded in the 3rd was farging sick
i'm calling him for mvp, in april
It'll happen because only the Phillies would be able to run out back to back to back MVP's and not have a playoff win during that timeframe.
ha...for real...can you imagine three mvps in a row and zero playoff game wins
Burrell hits a bases loaded double...everyone scores. 8-6 in the 9th.
SWEET!
C'mon bullpen.
haha sweet. they are idiots for pitching to him and walking choke dog.
hahaha did you see Howard running at the same speed as Chase a few feet behind him?
Quote from: MDS on April 22, 2008, 11:25:32 PM
haha sweet. they are idiots for pitching to him and walking choke dog.
NO
Quote from: BigEd76 on April 22, 2008, 11:26:11 PM
hahaha did you see Howard running at the same speed as Chase a few feet behind him?
yeah...I didn't think someone his size could slide like he did
What's with this...this...Philly teams coming through in the clutch, and not blowing it, and not choking?
I don't like it.
Lidge 1-2-3 and its game over
lidge's curve ball was sick tonight and he was topping out at 94-95 on the fast ball.
nice.
Brad Lidge...
9IP, 2R, 0ER
man, if that's shell shocked i wish some of the other phillies pitchers would get shell shocked...quickly
Quote from: Rome on April 22, 2008, 11:38:05 PM
lidge's curve ball was sick tonight and he was topping out at 94-95 on the fast ball.
nice.
lidge doesn't throw a curve ball you stupid caps fan
Boy that Brad Lidge guy sure is zesty, eh?
1. Burrell is the man
2. Utley truly does the little things and it is great to watch. Did anyone else catch his slide when he had Choke Dawg on his ass? He purposely slid to the inside part of the plate to set a pick for Howard sliding behind him. Between him and Burrell they have been carrying this team.
Quote from: SunMo on April 22, 2008, 11:42:09 PM
Quote from: Rome on April 22, 2008, 11:38:05 PM
lidge's curve ball was sick tonight and he was topping out at 94-95 on the fast ball.
nice.
lidge doesn't throw a curve ball you stupid caps fan
slider, curve ball, offspeed pitch, your sister jammed it in her snatch hole before he threw it, whatever.
ahhh, the ol' herpes ball
omgvaltrexlol
That pitch only works about 5 games and then it loses it's sting for a few months.
Quote from: ice grillin you on April 22, 2008, 11:26:34 PM
Quote from: MDS on April 22, 2008, 11:25:32 PM
haha sweet. they are idiots for pitching to him and walking choke dog.
NO
yup. pitching to the guy who always strikes out vs. one of the hottest hitters on the team. hmmm.
i do realize that walking choke dog set up the double play which burrell can handle, but in that situation it comes down to who you want- howard or burrell. and theyd be silly to want burrell. and they were.
Rockies are the defending NL champs, right?
QuoteStadium: Coors Field, Denver, CO
Attendance: 26,665 (52.9% full)
Game Time: 2:59
Weather: 67 degrees, clear
Awful.
What's their capacity? 45K? Any team filling 50% or more of their stadium on a Tuesday night in April doesn't sound too shabby to me. The exceptions would be the Yanks and Sawx obviously.
I don't really pay much attention to attendance though so maybe I'm off.
the phils attendance in april and may sucks too
Quote from: FastFreddie on April 23, 2008, 05:53:06 AM
Rockies are the defending NL champs, right?
QuoteStadium: Coors Field, Denver, CO
Attendance: 26,665 (52.9% full)
Game Time: 2:59
Weather: 67 degrees, clear
Awful.
Think Florida Marlins all year every year
Just went and checked all the box scores from last nights games and there was only a couple teams with more attendance than the Rockies (percentage wise).
Boston - duh
ChiCubs - no big surprise
ChiSox - vs the Yankees
So it seems like the Rockies made out better than most teams did last night.
Quote from: SunMo on April 23, 2008, 09:02:01 AM
the phils attendance in april and may sucks too
I think those are bad months for most teams with the exception of home openers and weekends. Once the summer months hit and the kiddies don't have school the next day, attendence will rise across the board.
Wow, if that's good attendance for a clear 67 degree night, baseball sucks.
Quote from: FastFreddie on April 23, 2008, 09:47:49 AM
Wow, if that's good attendance for a clear 67 degree night, baseball sucks.
Bingo.
Quote from: FastFreddie on April 23, 2008, 09:47:49 AM
Wow, I made a dumb ass observation and instead of swallowing it I attack the sport.
stop quoting peoples.
IGY is king of deflecting his dumbass observations, so I defer to his genius here.
Jimmy Rollins reportedly was found to have a break in his injured left ankle.
If that's the case, he may need to miss another four to six weeks. The Phillies have yet to comment, but they'll probably have to talk about the matter before the end of the day. Apr. 23 - 6:11 pm et
Source: Off The Record
not good
Goddamn.
1. The Phils medical staff is horrendous
2. Can you imagine Bruntlett for 6 weeks?
That cat is going to go 0-for 6 weeks,
(http://img99.imageshack.us/img99/1539/whatthehd4.jpg)
king gives up 3 in the first. what a farging Hoyda.
well that sucked
5-4 lead in the 8th and Hamels gives up a 2-run bomb to Prince
Taguchi at 3rd w/ 1 out in the 9th and he gets stranded
lol, ed...awful
jesus, easy. you are slippin big time.
werth is goat #3 behind charlie and "romero." picked off 2nd base with 0 outs in 7th and cant hit a god damn fly ball in the ninth. mother farger.
Charlie was a dumbass for not going to Romero.
King was a dumbass for not locating better on a 2 strike pitch
Werth was a colossal dumbfarg for getting picked off and not lifting a sac fly
Bruntlett for swinging a a ball in his eye socket, dumbass.
I hate watching games played in that park. It looks dark and dreary.
that's not the park...that's just wisconsin
ha....what did easy do
Quote from: BigEd76 on April 23, 2008, 10:59:21 PM
5-4 lead in the 8th and Hamels gives up a 2-run bomb to Prince
that was originally..
5-4 lead in the 8th and Romero give up a 2-run bomb to Prince
i asked him a while back if everything was ok because it clearly isnt...im worried about the big guy
Quote from: tard on April 23, 2008, 06:21:36 PM
Jimmy Rollins reportedly was found to have a break in his injured left ankle.
If that's the case, he may need to miss another four to six weeks. The Phillies have yet to comment, but they'll probably have to talk about the matter before the end of the day. Apr. 23 - 6:11 pm et
Source: Off The Record
not good
So has this little nugget of dog crap "news" come to any real media outlet yet?
the inquirer today reports that hes taking BP in clearwater and will return may 5 in arizona
wip specifically referencing the rotoworld eport contacted the phillies who said all mri's and x-rays have been negative and its a sprain
Quote from: Chachi on April 24, 2008, 11:12:27 AM
Quote from: tard on April 23, 2008, 06:21:36 PM
Jimmy Rollins reportedly was found to have a break in his injured left ankle.
If that's the case, he may need to miss another four to six weeks. The Phillies have yet to comment, but they'll probably have to talk about the matter before the end of the day. Apr. 23 - 6:11 pm et
Source: Off The Record
not good
So has this little nugget of dog crap "news" come to any real media outlet yet?
Oh, I see you made...a...change....in...the...thingy
dork
youre the idiot for posting "news" off a site called rotoworld
everything I post is true Cheddar Bob...belie dat
choke dog sittin for dobbsy today
Quote from: ice grillin you on April 24, 2008, 12:57:38 PM
choke dog sittin for dobbsy today
Dobbs has been the superior offensive player this year. Makes sense to platoon until Howard gets his shtein together.
ha...they arent platooning...just a day off for choke to rest and get his head straight
Dobbs is getting hosed, then. The black Adam Dunn has not even been that this year.
didnt we talk about you and baseball last week
fast frederick is banned from teh baseball threadz.
farging phillies...
3 innings, 3 leadoff hits, 3 double plays
You're right. Let's hear some more scintillating Kendrick fluffing from Wingspan.
Quote from: FastFreddie on April 24, 2008, 01:50:00 PM
You're right. Let's hear some more scintillating Kendrick fluffing from Wingspan.
While that is a somewhat valiant attempt to deflect, I am not sure I have even mentioned kendrick in this thread since the first few days of the season. So you may want to try again, how about a speed gun joke? That hasnt been kicked to death in about 2 weeks.
And before you kill the rotting horse on the gun joke...go to mlb.com right now, and look how the game tracker shows the speeds of each pitch, it gives two numbers...something i didnt realize when i made the original comment concerning lidge's velocity.
SHELL
Turdle
SHOCKED
lol @ looking at the speed gun of a online gamecast
lol@lol@
Yeah, I'm the only clown in this thread.
Werthy!
Baseball is a thinking man's game.
Two guys on base. It should be nearly impossible for Suppan to get Geeeoff out.
Jenkins is slowly turning into a Pat Gillick special. .229 and 3 farging RBI's?
Moyer left the 7th with 0 outs and runners on 1st and 3rd, nice job by Gordon to come in and get them out of the jam with 0 runs.
CHOKE DOG
Utley is a god
2 on, 2 outs. Burrell doubles. Clutch.
burrell is out of his mind
bye bye von hayes
choke dog is the worst
he has 34 k's in 85 at bats this year
Phils lose 4-3 because of Romero :P
3-1 final. Lidge shuts em down again
the bullpen AND pat burrell are both on fire at the same time...that feels weird to even say
Meanwhile, the last two NL MVP's have been a non-factor or worse.
in light of this just embarrassing show lately, i'm going to give wing a chance to take back his Lidge hate...one time only
Quote from: SunMo on April 24, 2008, 04:25:52 PM
in light of this just embarrassing show lately, i'm going to give wing a chance to take back his Lidge hate...one time only
The only thing I "took back" was the velocity thing, to which I have already explained and I wont go into again.
I don't hate him. I am not rooting against him at all.
But he's trash, give him more than 3 weeks and he will certainly prove it. It's only april lets save a little of the fellatio for a little deeper into the season....like i dont know, July, August and September. I honestly don't think he gets out of June.
Right now he's pitching ok. However, he won't be here next year, and you lost Bourn, and delayed Myers inevitable transition back to the closer role. I did not think the move was worth it. I still don't.
They rented a closer, to put myers back in the rotation, when there were better starters to be acquired.
who were these better starters to be acquired? and i loved bourn btw
and lol @ "he's pitching ok"
34 strikeouts in 85 at-bats is right around what he did last year. that's a 40% strikeout rate.
he had 199 strikeouts in 529 at-bats or 38%.
he'll come around sooner or later.
QuoteI don't hate him
QuoteI am not rooting against him at all.
QuoteBut he's trash
So you like and root for trash? Interesting.
lidge has pretty much been lights out so far. the only thing that concerns me is the walks but he's 4/4 in save opps. has a 0.00 era and has given up a measly 4 hits in nine appearances.
that's nothing to sneeze at.
Quote from: SunMo on April 24, 2008, 04:57:16 PM
who were these better starters to be acquired? and i loved bourn btw
and lol @ "he's pitching ok"
While out of reach, Santana could have been looked at.
Erik Bedard
Dontrelle Willis
On a lesser scale Carlos Silva, Kip Wells, Kyle Lohse were also available.
And yes, he is pitching "ok" he has 1 appearance where he went 1-2-3 save, otherwise, there always seems to be a walk, or a hit or two in there. He could be better.
Quote from: SunMo on April 24, 2008, 04:57:16 PM
who were these better starters to be acquired?
kyle lohse
kyle loshe is the only real one
they couldn't touch bedard or willis...what could you possibly offer those teams out of this minor league system?
silva got crazy money, worse than eaton...i guarentee you that you'd be killing gillick if he'd signed him
they can re-sign lidge and they have a very good closer
and while lidge hasn't been 1-2-3 every time i think you're stretching to find something wrong with him when you say he could be better. there have been a few times when his defense has cost him baserunners. the guy hasn't allowed an earned run yet.
lohse doesnt even count in this discussion anyway as he wouldnt have replaced myers
i just named him cause hes better than kendrick
Quote from: Wingspan on April 24, 2008, 05:07:49 PM
He could be better.
How exactly? By going 1-2-3 in every appearance? Is there a closer in baseball who's done that so far?
the phillies offered more money to lohse than he ended up signing for so i don't see how his name could be brought up in any discussion here.
willis, bedard & santana should be eliminated as well because there was zero chance of getting them. the rest of the scrubs aren't better than myers, so they're out too.
Any criticism of Lidge, when he's allowed 5 hits in 10 IP this year is just laughable. You can stick by your guns and say he will fall apart (which he may), but he has been great so far this year. The Phillies bullpen has the lowest ERA in the NL. Whodathunkit.
i just watched the highlights of the phils game. when jason werth hit his dinger they showed his mom in the stands. holy shtein. was she about 13 when she had him?
very hott.
I though it was his girlfriend when they first showed it
Quote from: Wingspan on April 24, 2008, 04:49:35 PM
Quote from: SunMo on April 24, 2008, 04:25:52 PM
in light of this just embarrassing show lately, i'm going to give wing a chance to take back his Lidge hate...one time only
The only thing I "took back" was the velocity thing, to which I have already explained and I wont go into again.
I don't hate him. I am not rooting against him at all.
But he's trash, give him more than 3 weeks and he will certainly prove it. It's only april lets save a little of the fellatio for a little deeper into the season....like i dont know, July, August and September. I honestly don't think he gets out of June.
Right now he's pitching ok. However, he won't be here next year, and you lost Bourn, and delayed Myers inevitable transition back to the closer role. I did not think the move was worth it. I still don't.
They rented a closer, to put myers back in the rotation, when there were better starters to be acquired.
I can't help but laugh at this. It's one or the other with Phillies fans.
The team or certain players get of to a slow start. Response? "It's April. Check back in June and you'll see......he/they will turn it around and will be playing well!"
The team or certain players get off to a fast start. Response? "It's April. Check back in June and you'll see......he/they will turn it around and will be playing like the crap that they are!"
Awesome.
holy shtein, choke dog struck out twice on what was supposed to be an off day? good golly ms molly does he blow.
QuotePenn State University graduate and Phillies broadcaster Chris Wheeler went to bat for his alma mater by donating $200,000 to the College of Communications to support student scholarships through two separate efforts.
With a $50,000 gift, Wheeler established the Christopher C. Wheeler Trustee Scholarship in the College of Communications.
In addition, through a $150,000 estate gift, Wheeler will support scholarships for students in the John Curley Center for Sports Journalism, which is housed in the college.
Even though people around Citizens Bank Park are calling him "money bags," Wheeler emphasized that the $150,000 portion is an estate gift, which means it is distributed after he dies.
"The scholarship just seemed like a great way to help out. The atmosphere at Penn State and in the College of Communications is just so positive, and the students really put an effort into what they do. My memories of Penn State are vivid, and to see the students working so hard, it's just wonderful to support that effort."
Doug Anderson, Dean of the Penn State College of Communications, praised Wheeler, who graduated from PSU in 1967.
"Chris is a great role model for the students. He is one of our best known and most distinguished graduates," Anderson said of Wheeler who is entering his 31st season as a Phillies broadcaster.
All from somebody who entered Penn State as a political science major.
"I was and still am a big history buff. I am especially interested in World War II and the Civil War," said Wheeler who has traveled with former Phillie and current Fox baseball announcer Tim McCarver to battlefields and historical sites such as Fredericksburg, Virgina. Wheeler and his girlfriend, Renee, a fellow Penn State graduate have traveled to battlefield sites in Gettysburg, Pennsylvania.
However, it was a Newtown Square connection who steered "Wheels" towards communications.
"When I was 15, I worked at the old Llangollen Hills Swim Club on Route 252. I dated a girl named Susan, whose father, Ed Harvey, worked at the old WCAU 1210. He encouraged me to get into broadcasting, and eventually helped me get my first job in the newsroom there."
While at Penn State, Wheeler announced Penn State basketball and baseball games for the student radio station.
After graduation, Wheeler worked for WCAU then joined the Phillies in 1971.
Throughout the years, Wheeler regularly returned to campus to participate in events for the students, including moderating the panel discussion, "Covering the Big Game" with Tim May of "The Columbus Dispatch," Lisa Salters of ABC/ESPN, J.B. Morris of "ESPN the Magazine" and Ron Musselman of "The Pittsburgh Post-Gazette."
Steve Sampsell, Director of College Relations, Penn State College of Communications wrote in an email, "He did a great job, working with students, eliciting stories from panelists and keeping it moving along."
Chris and Renee, whom he met when she was working as an usherette at Veterans Stadium, also travel to State College once a year for a football weekend – their beloved pet dog is named "Nittany."
Growing up on Tyson Road in Newtown Square, Wheeler attended St. Anastasia school through eighth grade. He played baseball for his father Chris H. Wheeler in the Babe Ruth, Newtown Edgmont, and Marple-Newtown American Legion leagues, as well as varsity baseball as a shortstop for Marple Newtown Senior High, graduating in 1963.
"I regret that my father (who died when Wheeler was 19) didn't get to see me work for the Phillies," said Wheeler.
Rob Brooks, Manager of Broadcasting for the team said, "It is not surprising to see Wheels give back to his beloved Penn State in this manner. He has always reached out to Penn State students over the years and made himself available as a resource to those who are looking to get into the sports broadcasting business. Wheels has been a valuable member of the Phillies family for many, many years. We have long known about his passion for Penn State, and are very proud that he is helping the next generation of Penn State communication students.
wheels is a straight playa.
Quote from: Rome on April 24, 2008, 05:18:33 PM
Quote from: Wingspan on April 24, 2008, 05:07:49 PM
He could be better.
How exactly? By going 1-2-3 in every appearance? Is there a closer in baseball who's done that so far?
Why would you isolate that part of my post and ask me a question that I already answered in the same post?
Quote from: Wingspan on April 24, 2008, 05:07:49 PM
Quote from: SunMo on April 24, 2008, 04:57:16 PM
who were these better starters to be acquired? and i loved bourn btw
and lol @ "he's pitching ok"
While out of reach, Santana could have been looked at.
Erik Bedard
Dontrelle Willis
On a lesser scale Carlos Silva, Kip Wells, Kyle Lohse were also available.
And yes, he is pitching "ok" he has 1 appearance where he went 1-2-3 save, otherwise, there always seems to be a walk, or a hit or two in there. He could be better.
Seattle had to give up Adam Jones to get Bedard, plus Sherrill and others.
Willis, while in hindsight it may have been nice at the time, looks like he's done. Not for the injury but his location. I was reading how some scouts think that motion may have caught up to him already.
Silva got paid alot. He's doing well in that dungeon up there though.
Kip Wells? Are you serious?
Lohse should have been signed.
However, they should have signed Lohse and acquired Lidge. I love Bourn, but thats about all they gave up for a top notch closer.
Quote from: MDS on April 24, 2008, 06:16:54 PM
QuotePenn State University graduate and Phillies broadcaster Chris Wheeler went to bat for his alma mater by donating $200,000 to the College of Communications to support student scholarships through two separate efforts.
blah blah more stuff about this blah
The PSU College of Communications is all losers. Every single graduate. Loser.
Winners = graduates of Temple School of Communications and Theater.
Quote from: Wingspan on April 24, 2008, 05:07:49 PMWhile out of reach, Santana could have been looked at.
The Phils were on Santana's trade block list.
Quote from: FastFreddie on April 24, 2008, 08:25:51 PM
The PSU College of Communications is all losers. Every single graduate. Loser.
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i just got a fat raise today. straight chedda yo.
QuoteTalked to Brad Lidge before last night's game about his strong start. Lidge said it's pretty simple, really. He's sticking with his fastball and slider (his slider has been particularly nasty). Over the past two years, he has tinkered with other pitches in April, and they haven't worked. Last season, after fumbling the closer job in Houston, he scrapped a cut fastball and split-finger, went back to the fastball-slider combo, and pitched well for the rest of the year. This season, he said he was determined to use only the fastball-slider, and so far, it's working.
Quote from: Sgt PSN on April 24, 2008, 06:02:21 PM
The team or certain players get of to a slow start. Response? "It's April. Check back in June and you'll see......he/they will turn it around and will be playing well!"
The team or certain players get off to a fast start. Response? "It's April. Check back in June and you'll see......he/they will turn it around and will be playing like the crap that they are!"
im happy with where they are right now but i wouldnt exactly qualify it as a fast start...i think you mean they got off to a not horrible start
Quote from: ice grillin you on April 25, 2008, 07:57:19 AM
Quote from: Sgt PSN on April 24, 2008, 06:02:21 PM
The team or certain players get of to a slow start. Response? "It's April. Check back in June and you'll see......he/they will turn it around and will be playing well!"
The team or certain players get off to a fast start. Response? "It's April. Check back in June and you'll see......he/they will turn it around and will be playing like the crap that they are!"
im happy with where they are right now but i wouldnt exactly qualify it as a fast start...i think you mean they got off to a not horrible start
I think you completely read way too much into my post. Go double check your work.
ML HR leaders:
#1 Utley (10)
#2 Burrell (8 )
ML RBI leaders:
#1 Burrell (25)
#2 Utley (21)
ML slugging % leaders:
#1 Utley (.835)
#2 Burrell (.750)
ML OPS leaders:
#1 Utley (1.288)
#2 Burrell (1.224)
All this without Rollins, Victorino and Howard
Utley and Burrell could get co-MVP honors! Then, the Phillies would have 4 NL MVP's in the last 3 years with no playoff wins to show for it.
I'd have to think that record would stand for a while.
Taguchi RF
Werth CF
Utley 1B
Burrell LF
Coste C
Feliz 3B
Bruntlett SS
Brad Harman 2B
Eaton P
World Series
At least Coste is playing.
Werth's been playing well.
up 6-0
win 6-5
eaton sucks
howard had 1 ab and k'ed
choke dog
lidge had a perfect 9th. 8 strikes on 11 pitches with two strikeouts.
clearly he could be pitching better, though.
he could have struck out the side...slacker
Trade Howard; move Utley to 1B; start Harman!
Another GREAT effort by the bullpen tonight. :yay
Quote from: Rome on April 26, 2008, 12:03:08 AM
lidge had a perfect 9th. 8 strikes on 11 pitches with two strikeouts.
clearly he could be pitching better, though.
Did you check the mlb.com speed gun?
6-0 Phils after 2 innings. Choke Dawg hit a HR
Luck.
Quote from: FastFreddie on April 26, 2008, 08:10:50 PM
Luck.
Looked like a pop-up off his bat, then just went over the fence.
Guy is crazy-strong, but he's pulling off the ball way too much. In the ROY and MVP years, he was lacing the ball to the opposite field frequently. Last year and this year he's trying to yank everything to right.
Phils win 8-4 and get their first series win in Pittsburgh in 7 years. Sad that it took that long...
Choke dog hit a 2 run bomb but still struck out a few times. One thing at a time, tubby.
Cy Maholm pitched a one-run, two-hit complete game against the Bums.
He lowered his ERA nearly a run this afternoon (from 4.22 to 3.26).
An uninspiring game to watch. BORING!
Letzzzzzz go Sixers
this article doesnt exactly give you the warm and fuzzies
http://www.philly.com/inquirer/sports/20080428_Phillies__Myers_at_a_loss_to_explain_anemic_fastball.html
This quote from myers is 10 times greater than awesome:
""I'm lost," Myers said. "I'm lost throwing 88 m.p.h. I'm thinking I'm still a fastball pitcher because I usually am. I usually establish my fastball early in the game. I've always been that guy. I've always done that. But right now I'm going to other crap earlier than I want to."
All the talk of tossing in that article made me uncomfortable.
I don't think he said "crap" or "doo-doo"
pretty cool
Quote
PHILADELPHIA -- Mike Lieberthal never wanted to leave the Phillies, and now he's going to leave baseball as a member of the organization for which he spent most of his career.
The former catcher, who spent 13 of his 14 Major League seasons in Philadelphia and holds the franchise record for games caught, before playing his final season in 2007 with his hometown Los Angeles Dodgers, will officially retire as a Phillie on June 1.
The last player to end his career in this manner was Doug Glanville in 2005.
"Philadelphia has always been a second home to me, so I'm really looking forward to this," said Lieberthal in a statement. "I spent half my life there and still follow the team closely on television."
That became a running joke with members of the Dodgers last season, who routinely pointed out that Lieberthal had the Phillies game on in the clubhouse, and always followed their exploits.
When the Dodgers came in last season, teammate Randy Wolf, who played with Lieberthal with the Phillies and Dodgers, said, "I follow [the Phillies] at a safe distance. He tailgates."
Originally selected by the Phillies as the third overall pick in the 1990 First-Year Player Draft behind Chipper Jones (Braves) and Tony Clark (Tigers), Lieberthal caught 1,139 games for Philadelphia, despite seven trips to the disabled list.
In 13 seasons with the Phillies -- he debuted on June 20, 1994, fitting, against the Dodgers in Los Angeles -- Lieberthal hit .275 with 150 home runs and 609 RBIs in 1,174 games. He batted .234 with one RBI in 38 games.
A two-time All-Star (1999-2000), Lieberthal became the sixth catcher in to hit .300 with 30 home runs in a season, something he did in 1999. He was the first Phillies player to reach those numbers in the same season since Mike Schmidt in 1981.
I always liked Leiberthal, he was a good guy, who had 1 too many knee surgery's to be effective.
Got to love the philly fan base that hated the guy because of contract someone else offered him.
Quote from: Wingspan on April 29, 2008, 09:42:42 AM
he was a good guy, who had 1 too many knee surgery's to be effective.
or not enough knees
Quote from: Wingspan on April 29, 2008, 09:42:42 AM
I always liked Leiberthal, he was a good guy, who had 1 too many knee surgery's to be effective.
Got to love the philly fan base that hated the guy because of contract someone else offered him.
My Dad took me to a baseball card show at the Holiday Inn in Neshanimy when I was 14 and he was there signing autographs. He was only 18 and had just been drafted so there was no line. We chatted with him for about 10 minutes and he was just really cool.
did you kiss him
I tried but my pops told me it was inappropriate. oh well.
Wolf will be pitching on Thursday. I guess the Wolf Pack will make an appearance?
I always liked Lieberthal as well.
He was probably the second or third best catcher in Phillies history behind Bob Boone.
i've really loved lieberthal for a long time too.
Isn't this the same board that used to trash the hell out of Lieberthal on a daily basis?
i always hated him....classic west coast laissez faire attitude pissed me off to no end...that being said i think its cool what hes doing now
i like him like him.
Quote from: BigEd76 on April 29, 2008, 10:18:18 AM
Wolf will be pitching on Thursday. I guess the Wolf Pack will make an appearance?
hopefully some more of them die in car wrecks
lol
Hamels pitching well again.
jinxer
wow manuel warmed up lidge and didnt use him in a game when the phils added some runs. brilliant.
I was one who turned on Lieberthal but I admit that it was probably wrong to do so. It wasn't his fault his knees were shot and yet he was still run out there every day. It was Ed Wade's fault for not replacing him and signing him to a fat contract. It's nice to see him retire and his passion for the team.
I remember his rookie card back in 1990 Topps. I played skee-ball forever in Cape May so I could win enough tickets to get that card.
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on April 29, 2008, 11:31:48 PM
It wasn't his fault his knees were shot and yet he was still run out there every day. It was Ed Wade's fault for not replacing him and signing him to a fat contract. It's nice to see him retire and his passion for the team.
That's exactly how I feel.
PS....15-12 with one day left in the month of April. I consider this first month a
huge success....especially considering they were without JRoll for most of it. Can't go blaming April for this season, come September.
Right, they'll have to blame another month.
My money's on September.
I'm really shocked that they're actually going to go into May above .500, especially when you look at not having Rollins, the horrible month by Howard at the plate and in the field along with other injuries here and there. The really important thing though is that none of the other NL East teams have come out blazing through the first month so they don't have to worry about making up a bunch of ground within the division either.
Quote from: Sgt PSN on April 30, 2008, 11:32:12 AM
My money's on September.
The really important thing though is that none of the other NL East teams have come out blazing through the first month
nor will they ever
in fact the entire NL is a joke
which is why the phillies will be in the hunt
for at least a wild card spot the entire season
The only other injury was Victorino...which helped them. Victorino is out of his league as an everyday starter.
Quote from: ice grillin you on April 30, 2008, 11:37:04 AM
Quote from: Sgt PSN on April 30, 2008, 11:32:12 AM
My money's on September.
The really important thing though is that none of the other NL East teams have come out blazing through the first month
nor will they ever
in fact the entire NL is a joke
which is why the phillies will be in the hunt
for at least a wild card spot the entire season
what is your decision process
when deciding how to format your post
it seems random
when you sometimes
break it up like this
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Quote
Former Wolf Pack members come out of den for Padres-Phillies game
By PAUL HAGEN
Philadelphia Daily News
hagenp@phillynews.com
FOUR BROTHERS - Patrick, John, Joe and Jim Wood - plan to go to the Phillies game tonight. That makes them no different than, oh, about 40,000 other fans. Maybe they will wander through Ashburn Alley, maybe they will eat some hot dogs. They will root, root, root for the home team. Typical.
What they won't be doing is wearing rubber masks and dancing and screaming every time Padres starter Randy Wolf gets an out.
Not standing out from the crowd is what will be different for the Woods, founding members of the fabled Wolf Pack.
It also will be an interesting case study of the old question of how fans react when their favorite player leaves because of a trade or free agency and then comes back with a different team.
Because from the time the group was formed in June 1999, until the last game Wolf pitched for the Phillies, first at Veterans Stadium and later at Citizens Bank Park, the Wolf Pack was there in full howl to support him.
There were eight brothers, sons of a Philadelphia policeman. Kevin and Joe are generally credited with coming up with the idea. John, Al, Jimmy, Charles, Tom and Patrick enthusiastically joined in. At its peak, the core group numbered about 15 including assorted cousins and friends, most graduates of Archbishop Carroll or Upper Darby High Schools.
Along the way they became well known in their own right and spawned a series of imitators (Adams Family for Terry Adams; Padilla Flotilla for Vicente Padilla; Duck Pond for Brandon Duckworth; Person's People for Robert Person; even Generic Fan Group, just to name a few). But the Wolf Pack always set the standard.
No negativity, although they reserved the right to growl at the umpire if his calls went against their man. No cursing or alcohol. Masks to be worn at all times while Wolf was in the game. They came off when he was finished for the night . . . but the Pack stuck around until the end to root for the Phillies.
It was something special, especially in an era when the gap between the players and the fans who root for them has never been wider.
And then, at the end of the 2006 season, Wolf became a free agent and signed with the Dodgers. This will be the first time he has pitched against the Phillies; last year he was sidelined with shoulder problems both times the teams met.
"It's going to be tough watching him in person wearing a different uniform for the first time," Patrick said earlier this week.
"We'd never root against Randy. But we'd never root against the Phillies, either. So I guess I hope he pitches eight shutout innings and the Phillies win it in the ninth after he's out of the game.
"I might give a little fist pump when he strikes somebody out, though."
Adding to the conflicted emotions, the Wolf Pack used to do its thing from Section 739 in left field at the Vet and along the way developed a bond with Pat Burrell as well. "Pat Burrell is one of my favorite Phillies of all-time. I'll be so torn," Patrick said with a laugh. "If Randy strikes Pat out or if Pat homers off Randy, my head might split."
Added John Wood in an e-mail: "We all miss Randy and wish he could still be with us, but we understand that baseball is a business and Randy had to do what is best for himself and his family. We are Phillies [f]ans first and would want the Phillies to win at all costs.
"Randy understands this and knows that while we want him to win a Cy Young Award and want the best for his career, just don't do it against the Phils."
Patrick exchanged e-mails with Wolf recently. He listens to most of the lefthander's starts on mlb.com.
But it won't be the same. It can't be. The brothers accept that. Thanks for the memories.
When the Wolf Pack started, Patrick wasn't even engaged to his future wife. Now he and Amy have four children. On the day they were married in 2000, they spent an inning in the booth with Harry Kalas and Larry Andersen before flying to Hawaii for their honeymoon the following morning.
The group took pride in being here every time Wolf pitched, even once when he came out of the bullpen. "They must have sent out the Wolf signal," Andersen marveled on the air.
John, Patrick, Charles and a cousin, Tommy Thompson, drove to Chicago for Wolf's All-Star appearance in 2003. They met his mother, who declared them her adopted sons.
They all mourned together after Tom was killed in an automobile accident on April 10, 2002, but they never missed a Wolf start. It was an antidote for their grief. Wolf attended the funeral and saluted the Pack when he left the mound after his next start.
It was a treasured time that defined all their lives and now it's over.
Well, probably.
"Maybe, just maybe, the Wolf will return to his Den one day," John wrote. "And we will be there." *
Quote"Maybe, just maybe, the Wolf will return to his Den one day," John wrote. "And we will be there."
Jesus christ.
ha
Quote from: SunMo on April 29, 2008, 04:24:20 PM
Quote from: BigEd76 on April 29, 2008, 10:18:18 AM
Wolf will be pitching on Thursday. I guess the Wolf Pack will make an appearance?
hopefully some more of them die in car wrecks
still stands
i love the wolf pack...its all the doucheys that tried to copy them who need to die
padilla flotilla was the worst
el loco vicente tengo un tequilla, que?
word
Quote• For what it's Werth: Scouts who have followed the Phillies this year weren't shocked that Shane Victorino came off the disabled list this week -- but Charlie Manuel kept running Jayson Werth out to center field.
Werth, who is leading the big leagues in pitches seen per plate appearance for the second straight year, has grown into a more productive offensive player than Victorino. But the surprise is that Werth has actually outplayed Victorino in center field in some respects.
"Victorino was not as good a center fielder as I expected," said one scout. "His throwing wasn't as good or as accurate as it was in right field. He was a lockdown arm in right field last year. He was so good, I even rated him above [Jeff] Francoeur. But not this year."
• Where'd the heat go: Scouts also have a theory on the dipping velocity of another Phillie, Brett Myers, whose fastball barely topped 88 miles per hour last Sunday: He has gotten too cutter-happy.
"He can fall in love with that cutter, and cutters over the long haul take velocity away from you," said one scout. "Historically, that's been true with a lot of guys who throw an excess amount of cutters. Then, when they try to go back to their fastballs, it's not there."
Fact: There should be some kind of tri-platoon between Jenkins, Victorino and Werth in cf/rf. With Werth's approach to the plate, he can be a terrific #2 hitter. Victorino should only be playing rf and really works best as a pinch runner for Burrell.
ha....tri platoon?
NO
you mix and match them three dooks depending on the matchups. or trade hacktorino for something.
Should have kept Rowand and kept the little hacker in RF.
Choke Dawg goes opposite field for a double.
Is he allergic to April?
Pads announcers droppin' some old school Phils names tonight...
Paul Spoljaric
Don Carmen
their announcers are hilarious and overall really really good
They must have changed them cause when I lived in SD they were atrocious
Quote from: SD_Eagle on May 01, 2008, 08:26:59 PM
They must have changed them cause when I lived in SD they were atrocious
Or, and stay with me here because this might confuse you, IGY's tastes are different than yours (everyone's).
Just sayin'.
We need lil Todd up in here to drop some announcer knowledge on us.
I think one of them is Matt Vasectomy...
Quote from: ice grillin you on May 01, 2008, 08:25:18 PM
their announcers are hilarious and overall really really good
tv or radio?
SD, hasn't Jerry Coleman been there since the early 80's? Ted Leitner used to do Eagle games years ago.
I used to listen to the mighty 1090 on the internet before WIP got their shtein together. Love Coach John Kantera.
tv
Quote from: Don Ho on May 01, 2008, 09:07:40 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on May 01, 2008, 08:25:18 PM
their announcers are hilarious and overall really really good
tv or radio?
SD, hasn't Jerry Coleman been there since the early 80's? Ted Leitner used to do Eagle games years ago.
I used to listen to the mighty 1090 on the internet before WIP got their shtein together. Love Coach John Kantera.
Leitner's a complete jackass whether its in the booth or on the news. Coleman is okay but I think he sticks primarily to the radio. Matt Vasgersian is the lead guy and he's meh...never did much for me.
Kantera is okay, I like him because he talks about every sport and other teams but I find he often would just regurgitate what he read and offer very little as far as his opinion.
How many saves in a row does Brad Lidge need to turn trash into gold?
First place 8)
Choke with the GW shot...that and the double to left was nice to see.
ANd Lidge just keep rolling along....ho-hum...shellshocking isn't it?!?
Gordon has been good too.
Rowand comes back into town. I hope he gives Pat Gillick the finger before he steps into the box tomorrow.
And they have to face Arizona phenom Max Scherzer on Monday. That could get ugly.
I'll admit when I was wrong. Lidge looks fantastic. So far, its been a tremendous move.
HOWEVER, Myers needs to play just as well as a starter for this move to be 100% solid.
Quote from: PhillyGirl on May 02, 2008, 08:59:05 AM
HOWEVER, Myers needs to play just as well as a starter for this move to be 100% solid.
not true...because if myers wasnt starting right now mds would probably be holding down the 5th spot in the rotation...myers just has to be significantly better than mds would be and its a great move (if lidge continues as he is)
Lidge is a better closer than Myers could ever hope to be so its already an upgrade. Myers is a headcase, his velocity is shtein but he won't long toss like his coaches tell him too. Maybe he should have concentrated more on being a starter in ST and less on punking Kendrick.
myers needs a kick in the face.
lidge has been lights out. but of course the inevitable is surely going to happen, right? i mean, this is the PHILLIES we're talking about here.
:-D
Eventually Lidge will blow a save, the true test will be how he responds.
hopefully he'll slap his old lady in public.
Quote from: SD_Eagle on May 02, 2008, 09:22:42 AM
Eventually Lidge will blow a save.
as long as he doesnt blow an elbow which is what romey is referring to
nothing as mundane as blowing out his elbow. nope, i expect him to be struck by a bolt of lightning or being infected by a virulent strain of ebola.
doesn't get much more fitting than that.
you knew it was coming, right? honestly, i did. i even shut the volume off so i didn't have to hear it.
choke dog--double play or keeps it alive?
how can Howard even argue that call--that was dead center--he is something else
now Charlie is coming out for fan points? Jesus Christ
Probably just frustration more than anything.
It's all up to Tricia now.
PAT MUTHA fargKING BURRELL
patty burrell, wow
farging God--Im buying Burrells poster
Burrell!!!
PATTY!
holy shtein.
:-D
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Wow! Amazing shot by Patty...major props to him. I've done a complete 180 on that guy and I honestly think they need to bring him back next year. Being wrong never felt so good.
Howard's K in the 10th was not a strike. It was nice to see him finally go off a little bit. Get angry Ryan.
Although I thought when Rowand hit the blast that it was fitting and I was hoping that those two dickheads Amaro and Gillick were watching. Maybe they took a breath from blowing Monty to see Rowand stick one outta there.
Oh, and tonight I got the CSN Philly feed...GREAT to hear Harry again. NOT great to hear MDS' boy Wheels again.
Quote from: SD_Eagle on May 02, 2008, 09:14:58 AM
Lidge is a better closer than Myers could ever hope to be so its already an upgrade. Myers is a headcase, his velocity is shtein but he won't long toss like his coaches tell him too. Maybe he should have concentrated more on being a starter in ST and less on punking Kendrick.
Please.
I don't get this headcase stuff. Why do people always say that about him? What really makes me laugh is when he has a bad start the people on the Phils MB always say "there's 10 cent head again".
His velocity is down...but I read because he was throwing his cutter more and got away from the true fastball. And also that Dubee and Chuck told him to long toss and he is doing it.
i don't think wheeler says the word "cutter" nearly enough.
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on May 03, 2008, 12:31:40 AM
Quote from: SD_Eagle on May 02, 2008, 09:14:58 AM
Lidge is a better closer than Myers could ever hope to be so its already an upgrade. Myers is a headcase, his velocity is shtein but he won't long toss like his coaches tell him too. Maybe he should have concentrated more on being a starter in ST and less on punking Kendrick.
Please.
I don't get this headcase stuff. Why do people always say that about him? What really makes me laugh is when he has a bad start the people on the Phils MB always say "there's 10 cent head again".
His velocity is down...but I read because he was throwing his cutter more and got away from the true fastball. And also that Dubee and Chuck told him to long toss and he is doing it.
He has the 'stuff' to be a very good pitcher,he just doesn't have the demeanor. You look at a guy like Cole who has more talent but gets rocked in an inning then settles down and retires the next 12. Myers gets rocked and he tries to do too much or has trouble re-gaining his focus.
anyone want to to tell me why no one has brought up the idea of batting pat 4 and choke dog 5? like really? i mean....come on. no.
Quote from: MDS on May 03, 2008, 01:21:33 PM
anyone want to to tell me why no one has brought up the idea of batting pat 4 and choke dog 5? like really? i mean....come on. no.
I was actually just looking at stats on espn and was wondering the same thing. It also goes to show just how bad of a funk that Howard is in right now because with Burrell swinging the bat like he is, pitchers are pretty much forced to pitch to Howard and he's just not taking advantage.
The only reason I can think of keeping Howard at 4 and Burrell 5th is because Howard offers absolutely no protection to Burrell. Pitchers would probably just pitch around Burrell to get to Howard. Just speculating.
in the least it would give utley a shot vs. a righty or burrell a shot vs. a lefty. also howard is just plain brutal at this point and doesnt deserve the extra at-bat.
They really don't have to "pitch" to Howard, becase he's swinging at just about everything. 42 Ks and 18 walks - more than 2 to 1.
you're actually asking why they don't try something new with the lineup?
der...
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they really should screw with burrell's place in the lineup. you know, because we know how well he deals with change and how he never careens off course when everything isn't just right in his world.
also - there's no way howard's going to start hitting again either. in fact, ship his ass to allentown before it's too late.
Quote from: MDS on May 03, 2008, 01:54:22 PM
in the least it would give utley a shot vs. a righty or burrell a shot vs. a lefty. also howard is just plain brutal at this point and doesnt deserve the extra at-bat.
choke dog isnt gonna hit no matter where in the lineup he is
plus utley hits over .300 vs lefties
if it aint broke dont fix it
Its not about Howard hitting its about having a left/right/left 3/4/5 and utilizing Burrell who's on fire.
that and getting burrell a chance at an extra at bat.
left right left doesnt matter since utleys hits lefties
like rome said burrell is on fire so is utley arguably the two hottest hitters in the majors...why would you change that
these three guys have been in these spots have crushed the ball since last june and have the phillies off to their best start since john kruk had his nut removed and you wanna change people around just because choke is struggling....no thanks
you don't change whores in mid-scream.
Quote from: MDS on May 03, 2008, 02:32:27 PM
that and getting burrell a chance at an extra at bat.
lol you dont farg with lineups to get a five hitter an extra at bat...anyway unless you bat him in the first three theres no guarantee hes getting extra at bats and even if he did it would be so inconsequential to the point that its ridiculous to even suggest the move for that reason
also why do you want burell getting walked ahead of a guy who casnt even see the ball right now
Quotealso why do you want burell getting walked ahead of a guy who casnt even see the ball right now
that's a thinker.
Quote from: SunMo on May 03, 2008, 02:05:41 PM
you're actually asking why they don't try something new with the lineup?
der...
(http://media.philly.com/images/20070418_dn_Z1PHIL18S.JPG)
And every time he does something new with the lineup, he gets blasted.
Charlie Manuel and Joe Banner could collectively cure cancer, and you and igy would get on their case for not curing diabetes at the same time.
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on May 03, 2008, 12:29:32 AM
Howard's K in the 10th was not a strike. It was nice to see him finally go off a little bit. Get angry Ryan.
The ump's strike zone was all over the place in the 8th-10th innings. That is what Howard yelled about. He was called out looking 2 at bats in a row, both were "close pitches" but one was insider corner (8th inning i believe) and one was outside (10th inning). Howards arguement was that a pitcher can't have it both ways. And howard was right. 99% of the time the ump will give one of those call to the pitcher, but not both.
Quote from: Wingspan on May 03, 2008, 02:49:54 PM
Quote from: SunMo on May 03, 2008, 02:05:41 PM
you're actually asking why they don't try something new with the lineup?
der...
(http://media.philly.com/images/20070418_dn_Z1PHIL18S.JPG)
And every time he does something new with the lineup, he gets blasted.
Charlie Manuel and Joe Banner could collectively cure cancer, and you and igy would get on their case for not curing diabetes at the same time.
wah
Quote from: ice grillin you on May 03, 2008, 02:37:40 PM
Quote from: MDS on May 03, 2008, 02:32:27 PM
that and getting burrell a chance at an extra at bat.
lol you dont farg with lineups to get a five hitter an extra at bat...anyway unless you bat him in the first three theres no guarantee hes getting extra at bats and even if he did it would be so inconsequential to the point that its ridiculous to even suggest the move for that reason
also why do you want burell getting walked ahead of a guy who casnt even see the ball right now
the first game in which howard bats in the 9th with 2 outs and obviously k's, im blamin you. you never know when getting that extra ab can help. i dont think moving a guy one spot up and one spot down is gonna really mess things up. if choke dog ever gets going, then its moot. but at this point, i dont see how you can justify having him in the middle of the order. or playing him against lhp.
Quote from: MDS on May 03, 2008, 03:52:35 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on May 03, 2008, 02:37:40 PM
Quote from: MDS on May 03, 2008, 02:32:27 PM
that and getting burrell a chance at an extra at bat.
lol you dont farg with lineups to get a five hitter an extra at bat...anyway unless you bat him in the first three theres no guarantee hes getting extra at bats and even if he did it would be so inconsequential to the point that its ridiculous to even suggest the move for that reason
also why do you want burell getting walked ahead of a guy who casnt even see the ball right now
the first game in which howard bats in the 9th with 2 outs and obviously k's, im blamin you. you never know when getting that extra ab can help.
you never do know that is true and its also the problem with moving people in the order because of something that happens that rarely...on the other hand you know exactly when burrell is getting walked so the pitcher can k choke...i can guarantee you my scenario of burrell being walked will happen ten times more often than howard getting up in the 9th with two outs and a runner in scoring position because hes batting 4th instead of 5th
Quote from: Wingspan on May 03, 2008, 02:49:54 PM
Quote from: SunMo on May 03, 2008, 02:05:41 PM
you're actually asking why they don't try something new with the lineup?
der...
(http://media.philly.com/images/20070418_dn_Z1PHIL18S.JPG)
And every time he does something new with the lineup, he gets blasted.
Charlie Manuel and Joe Banner could collectively cure cancer, and you and igy would get on their case for not curing diabetes at the same time.
banner jobs performance is not the issue...he doesnt do anything that his job calls for that no one else in like positions across the league do...however banner is a despicable person in the mold of a lil danni snyder who needs to never be seen or heard and just work his numbers....basically if youre talking about banner at all then hes farging up
charlie on the other hand is horrible at his job and by all accounts a great person...ive given charlie credit many times for his handling of the dugout and his relationship with players...but from first pitch to last hes a joke
Changing the line-up? No.
Unless you mean adding Rollins back in there and getting Bruntlett back to the bench.
Burrell in the 4th spot means he gets walked for Howard now. Because then Howard comes up and hacks at three sliders that are in the 3B dugout and sits down. Then Feliz comes up and promptly grounds into a DP.
utley is bananas right now...cain is farging dealing his ass off and utley has him 2-1....just threw a breaking ball...no way behind in the count he throws another...you sit on a fastball right...nope utleys sits back and bashes a hook to the deepest part of the park opposite field
btw cain struck out the side other than utley
choke is getting booed out of the stadium now...ive heard scattered boos for him before but now hes getting eaten up...and he deserves every last one of them
Myers was pretty good tonight but got no run support. Angel Hernandez was squeezing him early and the Phils should have won 2-1. Fred Lewis was give a walk by Hernandez, then tagged out but called safe at 2nd and then scored on a hit.
Utley is so good its ridiculous. Its amazing to see someone so good and then watch Howard dig in and look so pathetic. The boo's are deserved no doubt. Step it up, Howard for fargs sake.
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on May 03, 2008, 10:38:58 PM
Myers was pretty good tonight but got no run support. Angel Hernandez was squeezing him early and the Phils should have won 2-1. Fred Lewis was give a walk by Hernandez, then tagged out but called safe at 2nd and then scored on a hit.
phreak, he totally missed the tag at 2nd...even Wheels admitted it. i remember that because wheels was whining because the ump usually calls the runner out even if the tag isn't made.
Quote from: SunMo on May 03, 2008, 10:41:31 PM
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on May 03, 2008, 10:38:58 PM
Myers was pretty good tonight but got no run support. Angel Hernandez was squeezing him early and the Phils should have won 2-1. Fred Lewis was give a walk by Hernandez, then tagged out but called safe at 2nd and then scored on a hit.
phreak, he totally missed the tag at 2nd...even Wheels admitted it. i remember that because wheels was whining because the ump usually calls the runner out even if the tag isn't made.
Giants announcers said he got him. The replay they showed on that broadcast showed him getting the tip of the glove to the shoulder. Either way, dude should have been called out on strikes.
And speaking of tagging guys out; Utley's catcheresque blocking of 2B on steals is another example of his baseball IQ being so great. I love how he does the little things.
you suck suck penises.
phreak is close to entering pgville if he isnt already a resident
phreak is also close to not hitting his 50 minimum innings this week in fantasy, therefore giving me every pitching category and yet another dominating win
PHREAK!!!
What did I do?!
burrell with a double to the gap...nah, no reason to bat him 4th, not like he would've knocked in victorino in the 1st instead of the 10 million dollar man gagging again
choke should be moved to 7th. hit either dobbs or jenkins 5 and someone else 6, like coste or hacktorino depending on whose playing. theres no way he can hit 4 anymore. he is just brutal and its only going to get worse.
stop acting like this is new....theres a reason i gave him that moniker over a year ago
he doesnt need to go to 7th or hit behind dobbs...he needs to come out of this and hopefully along with his 200 plus k's you can get 35 homers out of him...let him play out the rest of his arbitration years and then let him go bye bye
awful
(http://spawn.com/toys/baseball/other/bcs-chamels/images/other_bcs-chamels_photo_03_dp.jpg)
I don't even know who that is supposed to be. Or maybe I do but don't want to think about it.
while thinking about that, check out the Phils losing to the piece of ish Giants again
you should stop talking about sports
phils win 6-5 in the bottom of the ninth. jenkins hit a slow roller and the giants second baseman butchered it. choke dawg scored from second, amazingly enough.
Quote from: SunMo on May 04, 2008, 04:47:12 PM
you should stop talking about sports
where did I say they lost? I'm not wrong [/igy]
That Hamels Mcfarlane piece looks almost as bad as that last hit that won the game for the phils. I should talk as my chokedawg Mcfarlane piece is starring down at me from my desk.
Good job by Ruiz to tie it in the 8th. It's about time he did something. I was hoping they'd bean the cat that ran him over, but the HR was enough payback.
Jenkins is horrible. What pisses me off about him is every time he hits a fly ball he watches it like he just crushed one.
WTF was up with Rich Aurilia owning King today?
Quote from: ice grillin you on May 04, 2008, 02:42:22 PM
stop acting like this is new....theres a reason i gave him that moniker over a year ago
he doesnt need to go to 7th or hit behind dobbs...he needs to come out of this and hopefully along with his 200 plus k's you can get 35 homers out of him...let him play out the rest of his arbitration years and then let him go bye bye
are you retard? you cant have a .150 hitter stinkin up the middle of the order. keep him in the lineup, but he seriously cannot be trusted to be in the middle of the order. even feliz is a better option, though choke dog did at least get on base a few times today.
Are you retard?
Quote from: MDS on May 04, 2008, 06:17:24 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on May 04, 2008, 02:42:22 PM
stop acting like this is new....theres a reason i gave him that moniker over a year ago
he doesnt need to go to 7th or hit behind dobbs...he needs to come out of this and hopefully along with his 200 plus k's you can get 35 homers out of him...let him play out the rest of his arbitration years and then let him go bye bye
are you retard? you cant have a .150 hitter stinkin up the middle of the order. keep him in the lineup, but he seriously cannot be trusted to be in the middle of the order. even feliz is a better option, though choke dog did at least get on base a few times today.
Howard
Feliz/Jenkins
Ruiz
Bruntlett
Pitcher
That scares no one. After getting by Burrell at 4 you have to wait for two innings to get the top back up to the plate again. Do not move the line-up around.
moving howard is a colossally stupid idea. leave him where he is.
Are YOU retard?
it is retard to have that k machine batting 4th over having someone has mediocre as dobbs or jenkins 5. you guys are getting really silly with this paranoia of not moving the lineup around. if choke dog is still hitting like this when jrol comes back, there is no justifiable reason anyone can give to keep him in the middle of the order.
jenskins got way too excited for hitting a ball he should have grounded out on
ha. give the guy a break, igy.
it's not as if he had a whole lot of experiences like that playing in beerwaukee for 10 years.
Krukker said last night that Aurilia set Hamels up by taking first ball fastball strikes on his first two at-bats. I'm sure it was his plan all along to save the homer for his 3rd.
i'm sure glad you have a blackberry so you were able to tell us that
Kruk also has only one testicle.
Quote from: FastFreddie on May 05, 2008, 12:12:49 PM
Krukker said last night that Aurilia set Hamels up by taking first ball fastball strikes on his first two at-bats. I'm sure it was his plan all along to save the homer for his 3rd.
that was an excellent breakdown by Kruk last night.
did Victorino nail Aurilia with his spikes yesterday as he stepped on the bag late in the game?
Max Scherzer a fireballing rookie.
Randy Johnson a slider happy lefty
Micah Ownings a pitcher who hits better than half of the Phillies starting line-up
Brandon Webb a 8-0 guy with a heavy sinker
0-4?
Its going to be tough to win in ARZ.
shut your dirty whore mouth, negadelphian.
:-D
Some positivity....
Howard only K's once tonight
Is he only going to have one plate appearance?
2 HRs and a double to go along with that!
Moyer has a hit off this kid half his age
Moyer is halfway to the cycle :-D
5-1 Phils after 2.5
9-1 in the 7th
11-3, bottom ninth, bases loaded, Condrey on the mound, this has grand slam written all over it.
phew! 11-3.
The IronPigs suck. I mean REALLY suck. (http://www.usatoday.com/sports/baseball/minors/2008-05-06-lehigh-valley_N.htm)
Moyer had the slop going nicely last night.
Well, the highlights and recap would indicate he did.
tj bohn holla
No doubt Randy Johnson gets at least 10 k's tonight and shuts the bums down.
Did Randy Johnson find a time machine?
He doesn't need one, he owns the bums. Not to mention they put up 11 lastnight which automatically means they won't score squat tonight.
Someone took his Negadelphian pills this morning.
unicorns, sunshine, lollipops, and rainbows
ooh, lollipops?
yummy
Quote from: SD_Eagle on May 06, 2008, 10:44:52 AM
He doesn't need one, he owns the bums. Not to mention they put up 11 lastnight which automatically means they won't score squat tonight.
That 1-1 record over the last 2 years is frightening.
http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=3382909
not sure if this was posted.
First place in the East and this guy has barely played.
they feel like the same team that finished last year
Quote from: PhillyGirl on May 06, 2008, 10:58:46 AM
http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=3382909
not sure if this was posted.
First place in the East and this guy has barely played.
I won't be upset if they hold out Rollins until Memorial day if it means once he's back, he's 100%
Bruntlet has done an ok enough job fielding at the SS spot (after those 1st couple of atrocious games). As long as the phils continue this pace, they can wait out Rollins ankle a little longer.
Quote from: Wingspan on May 06, 2008, 11:11:42 AM
Quote from: PhillyGirl on May 06, 2008, 10:58:46 AM
http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=3382909
not sure if this was posted.
First place in the East and this guy has barely played.
I won't be upset if they hold out Rollins until Memorial day if it means once he's back, he's 100%
Bruntlet has done an ok enough job fielding at the SS spot (after those 1st couple of atrocious games). As long as the phils continue this pace, they can wait out Rollins ankle a little longer.
agree with this 100%
Luckily, the Phillies lead the majors with 48 homers, and (stat of the day alert) Chase Utley and Pat Burrell have combined to hit more homers (22) than eight entire teams.
Entering last night's game, 70 of the Phillies' 150 runs (46.67 percent) had come via homers.
Quote from: PhillyGirl on May 06, 2008, 10:58:46 AM
First place in the East and this guy has barely played.
Talkin' about Rollins or Choke Dog?
No Choke Dog tonight.
Hacktorino, Bruntlett, Utley (1B), Bat, Werth, Feliz, Coste, Harman (2B), Eaton
I'd rather see Werth 2 and Coste 5.
Randy Johnson will drop dead on the mound tonight.
I'd like to see a Randy Johnson halloween mask. Dude is one scary lookin freak. What chick would find him good looking?
Bruntlett is on fire! He owns the 2-hole now.
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on May 06, 2008, 07:33:28 PM
I'd like to see a Randy Johnson halloween mask. Dude is one scary lookin freak. What chick would find him good looking?
For some reason I can't quite figure out, lots of ugly guys with tens of millions of dollars are with hot chicks. I guess women can just see the inner beauty of everyone.
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on May 06, 2008, 07:33:28 PM
I'd like to see a Randy Johnson halloween mask. Dude is one scary lookin freak. What chick would find him good looking?
Bruntlett is on fire! He owns the 2-hole now.
Well, maybe it has something to do with his nickname being "The Big Unit."
ha.....Eaton f'ing walked Randy Johnson on 4 pitches and now he's losing
There's the Adam Eaton we all remember. Welcome back, fella. Dipshtein. :boo
Bruntlett again....rbi double.
the dawg is pinch hitting
Shocking result. Absolutely shocking.
::)
he's just farging lost up there.
anyone watching the Arizona feed? Mark Grace, PLEASE STOP!
Quote from: Don Ho on May 06, 2008, 11:58:27 PM
anyone watching the Arizona feed? Mark Grace, PLEASE STOP!
Randy Johnson is the bestest ever. What do you mean it's not a quality start?
way to go you farging hawaiian!
farg the best team in baseball and their 3/4 empty stadium.
Quote from: Don Ho on May 06, 2008, 11:58:27 PM
anyone watching the Arizona feed? Mark Grace, PLEASE STOP!
he is the worst....him and the lead guy are both pathetic homers
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on May 06, 2008, 11:03:54 PM
There's the Adam Eaton we all remember. Welcome back, fella. Dipshtein. :boo
That.
so the number five pitcher who was a question to even make the team has his first bad start of the year over a month into the season and yous jump all over him?
haters in the house
but he doesn't like it when you say Myers has a ten cent head
And a five cent fastball?
(http://www.newmexiconuts.net/catalog/tumbleweed.jpg)
Eaton's FIRST bad game?
Wtf have you been watching? He only had like 2 good games.
ha, they won the last 4 games he started...he must've been terrible
he allowed 2er, 3er, 4er, 2er
and only one he pitched less than 5 innings
what the farg else do you want from the guy?
Head.
you want head from a dude?
IN
Well I was answering for PG, but if you're offering, YES!
Quote from: PhillyGirl on May 07, 2008, 09:40:25 AM
He only had like 2 good games.
even if thats true and it isnt...its still not bad for a guy who is pretty much horrible and your #5...if eaton can duplicate his first month over each month for the rest of the season we would all be more than happy...when the season started i expected him to be out of the rotation at some point this year...so im pretty satisfied with what hes done so far
Eaton blows.
Defending him at all is preposterous.
That's why it's tough to get on him. For a guy who sucks to have his first awful game on May 6 is impressive. We were expecting this on April 6.
Eaton has been decent - not great, but decent. And even if last night was a poor outing, he still left the Phils with a chance to win. About what you should expect from a #5.
Not a big fan of the phrase "left you with a chance to win". How did Eaton leave the Phillies with a chance to win yesterday? 4 IP and 6 R?
Not sure being on pace to give up 13 runs qualifies as given your team a good chance.
yeah, i wouldn't agree he did that yesterday, but he has done that for just about every other game this year.
dawg up
dawg down.
Was that a purpose pitch from Kendrick? Got Jackson right in the shoulder. Ouch.
Didn't get to see last night's game, so I don't know if anything happened then to warrant a retaliation.
Are you picking up the Arizona TV feed? Mark Grace is just awful. What a lug. Sits there clapping when they get a hit, shouting "RUN! RUN!" in the background, "oh so and so is due to hit one out here." He needs to go back to the Columbia School of Broadcasting and get his money back. He is horrible
Quote from: Don Ho on May 07, 2008, 11:00:55 PM
Are you picking up the Arizona TV feed? Mark Grace is just awful. What a lug. Sits there clapping when they get a hit, shouting "RUN! RUN!" in the background, "oh so and so is due to hit one out here." He needs to go back to the Columbia School of Broadcasting and get his money back. He is horrible
If you have MLB EI on DirecTV, the Philly feed is on 745. Not HD, though.
Unfortunately I'm stuck with mlb.com
Victorino is a stud. Gets cleaned out and still books it all the way home after being nearly decapitated by Jackson.
dawg 0-4 with 3 K's. Brutal to watch this guy right now.
still bat him 4th. dont change the lineup.
he's working his way out of it. no worries.
farging flash :boom
way to battle back. still in first.
QuotePhillies Notes: Eaton now beginning to eat away at Manuel
PHOENIX - Adam Eaton opened the season with three consecutive quality starts and a 4.12 ERA, but his last four haven't been as good, and that could be reason to worry, considering his track record with the Phillies.
Eaton has a 7.23 ERA in his last four starts.
"Concerned? Yes. Worried? No," manager Charlie Manuel said after Tuesday's 6-4 loss to the Diamondbacks.
Eaton allowed five hits, six runs and three walks in four innings Tuesday. Those three walks came in the fourth inning, in which the Diamondbacks scored five runs. That included walking pitcher Randy Johnson on four pitches with the bases loaded to force in the tying run.
"I [messed] up," Eaton said.
"He needs a chance to stay out there sometimes," Manuel said. "He's got to do a job there. He had all the chances in the world to get out of the inning. He just didn't get it done."
Quality.
Eaton has kept the bums in games long enough for them to have a chance to win. He's had a few decent outings, a couple so so outings, and 1 really bad outing. The bums give him adequate run support and he very well could be 4-1 at this point. Howard on the other hand just goes from bad to worse. Seriously, re-sign Pat, make him the 4 guy, trade Howard to the Yanks for pitching or minor leaugers.
Bruntlett's been a pleasant surprise. I know his first couple outings have been horrid but he's not a bad player. I'd have been fine with going 2-2 in this series so when they lose to Webb tonight I won't be disappointed. They get a 3rd win and the bums deserve a lot of credit.
eaton SO FAR has been fine...definitely the best #5 starter in the division thus far...could he implode and be out of the rotation in a month sure...but criticizing him for his season thus far is idiotic
philies would have a much better chance in games like tonight if idiot charlie had made king the #1 starter like he should have
lol. 7.23 ERA in the last 4 games.
He's solid.
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on May 05, 2008, 07:50:36 PM
Max Scherzer a fireballing rookie. Sucks!
Randy Johnson a slider happy lefty Got lucky.
Micah Ownings a pitcher who hits better than half of the Phillies starting line-up Um, no.
2-?
Its going to be tough easy to win in ARZ. Plus I like men's balls. Lots of balls.
Your Philly Homer Card has officially been revoked, dook.
lol 3 quality starts in his first 3 games
he sucks
see i can play too
who said he was solid...i havent heard one person on the board say he isnt anything but a bum...but that isnt the argument....its the argument you created when five different people called you out for jumping all over him for his year so far
Eaton is there to keep the mound warm for the 2 starts the phils get out of Kris Benson. Nothing more, nothing less. He's not even worth commenting on.
they won the last 4 games he pitched before the other night....that means he's pitching well enough to keep them close to win the game in the end...that's what you want from your 5th starter
but hey, stats are fun too...my favorite is team wins though
My favorite is the death toll in Myanmar.
rangoons VORP is at an all time low right now
Yes, ERA is the same meaningless stat as VORP.
I'm lmfao right now.
valium is your friend
Quote from: PhillyGirl on May 08, 2008, 09:11:09 AM
I'm lmfao right now.
no you're not, your face is beet red and you're punching your keyboard
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haha, I thought of that gif when he said that.
Actually Sun, its amusing to see people defending Eaton. Keep going.
if you call it defending, that's fine. you're merely stating facts you feel are most important (ERA) and I am doing the same (team wins). i just happen to believe that him pitching well enough to give them a chance to win is all that should be expected. he couldn't even do that last year.
The sooner Anna Benson's sweater kittens show up, the better.
when did Kris Benson turn into Nolan Ryan?
Quote from: SunMo on May 08, 2008, 09:28:06 AM
when did Kris Benson turn into Nolan Ryan?
Benson probably is very similar to Nolan Ryan right now.
Then again, Ryan is 60-something years old now.
Quote from: ice grillin you on May 08, 2008, 09:10:15 AM
rangoons VORP is at an all time low right now
This shtein made me laugh.
Quote from: SunMo on May 08, 2008, 09:04:56 AM
they won the last 4 games he pitched before the other night....that means he's pitching well enough to keep them close to win the game in the end...that's what you want from your 5th starter
but hey, stats are fun too...my favorite is team wins though
yup...after people learn to accept that 1) he's never going to live up to his contract and 2) He's a 5th starter...the sooner they'll accept that he hasn't been that bad.
shane with his application for the WWE last night
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wSx3iycSvek
Tom Gordon has a 1.29 ERA since opening day.
J.C. Romero has a 0.63 ERA in 17 appearances.
Brad Lidge has a 0.00 ERA in 16 appearances.
BigSunMo76
QuotePhillies acquire lefthanded reliever
By PAUL HAGEN
Philadelphia Daily News
hagenp@phillynews.com
The Phillies, who are openly searching for a lefthanded reliever, have acquired Stephen Randolph from the Houston Astros for a player to be named later.
There are reasons to believe that Randolph, 34, could soon join J.C. Romero as the second lefty in the bullpen. He has a 1.23 earned run average for Triple A Round Rock this season and had allowed just 8 hits while striking out 21 in 14 2/3 innings.
There are also reasons to believe he might not be the answer. He has command issues, as evidenced by 11 walks.
Neither general manager Pat Gillick or assistant general manager Ruben Amaro Jr. could immediately be reached for comment this morning.
Randolph, who has just over 2 years of major league service, appeared in 14 games for the Astros last season. He struck out 22 batters in 13 1/3 innings . . . but also walked 22 and allowed 21 hits, accounting for his 12.15 ERA.
In 109 big-league appearances in his career, he has a 5.52 earned run average.
world series!
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Stephen Randolph
Eaton has gone:
3 er in 7.2 against cinci
3 er in 6 against ny
3 er in 6 against houston
4 er in 5 against ny
3 er in 3.2 against pit
2 er in 6 against sd
6 er in 4 against arz
now he didnt pitch well against ny and pit, but he still gave the team a chance to win. what the hell more can you get out of a 5th starter, especially a crappy one like eaton? hes pitched well above anyone expectations. which were really, really low.
Randolph is one of only 4 or 5 black lefty pitchers in the majors (Willis, Sabathia and um.....whoever else)
Quote from: Rome on May 08, 2008, 11:09:06 AM
QuotePhillies acquire lefthanded reliever
By PAUL HAGEN
Philadelphia Daily News
hagenp@phillynews.com
The Phillies, who are openly searching for a lefthanded reliever, have acquired Stephen Randolph from the Houston Astros for a player to be named later.
There are reasons to believe that Randolph, 34, could soon join J.C. Romero as the second lefty in the bullpen. He has a 1.23 earned run average for Triple A Round Rock this season and had allowed just 8 hits while striking out 21 in 14 2/3 innings.
There are also reasons to believe he might not be the answer. He has command issues, as evidenced by 11 walks.
Neither general manager Pat Gillick or assistant general manager Ruben Amaro Jr. could immediately be reached for comment this morning.
Randolph, who has just over 2 years of major league service, appeared in 14 games for the Astros last season. He struck out 22 batters in 13 1/3 innings . . . but also walked 22 and allowed 21 hits, accounting for his 12.15 ERA.
In 109 big-league appearances in his career, he has a 5.52 earned run average.
world series!
What did the bums give up? Cash consdieration or PTBNL? Regardless I like being on the other side of a Wade deal even if it's Gillick pulling the trigger.
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nice job manufacturing a run in the 1st of webb
then dawg of course k's.
the bat gets the day off, good spot for one. jap starts in his place, dobbsy in at 3rd as well.
these Arizona announcers make every hit the dbacks get appear to be the greatest feat ever accomplished in major league baseball. simple single turns into "Oh, what an incredible at bat for dickhead. Just spectacular". Shut up please.
Meyers you icehole!
nickel brain gives up another 1st inning homer.
dawg, 4 K's in last 5 at bats.
god i hate myers so much
Quote from: Wingspan on May 08, 2008, 03:58:46 PM
nickel brain gives up another 1st inning homer.
Leads the league. I love when he tries to sneak in a fastball right down the pipe.
howard sucks[/igy]
eat a cock you pos wife beater
Quote from: ice grillin you on May 08, 2008, 04:46:21 PM
eat a cock you pos wife beater
i yelled the same thing as i was on the phone with my co-worker watching this shtein. he didn't even ask, his response "What, Phils losing?".
Quote from: Don Ho on May 08, 2008, 04:48:40 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on May 08, 2008, 04:46:21 PM
eat a cock you pos wife beater
i yelled the same thing as i was on the phone with my co-worker watching this shtein. response "What, Phils losing?".
Doesn't that constitute asking?
I was at training until late, then had a two hour drive home. With Webb pitching, I figured they'd lose, but by reading the recap and IGY's always colorful comments, I'm pleased I missed another Myers hack job.
chokes last seven games
2 for 24
12 k's
He should still be batting clean-up though. For sure.
I didn't see the game last night, but the other night when power-pitcher Micah Owings was in, they went right after him. He scares no one, and has holes in his swing so big it's farging unbelievable.
you dont move him after a five week slump....especially after last year when he was horrible and rebounded with a half decent year....if he doesnt break out of this funk in the next month or so then his career is probably over but he at least deserves that much
i know it would have been an extremely hard trigger to pull but i wanted them to trade him this past offseason...his value was still really high and now its in a full blown recesssion
Quote from: ice grillin you on May 09, 2008, 09:27:14 AM
you dont move him after a five week slump....especially after last year when he was horrible and rebounded with a half decent year....if he doesnt break out of this funk in the next month or so then his career is probably over but he at least deserves that much
i know it would have been an extremely hard trigger to pull but i wanted them to trade him this past offseason...his value was still really high and now its in a full blown recesssion
I sort of agree, but I think you have to consider how bad a slump this is. He looks absolutely lost, and I haven't seen any signs that he could be coming around.
you need 4 k's per game in the middle of the lineup. keep him there. it just makes too much sense.
Pretty soon, people won't be debating whether or not to move him, but whether he should be moved further back in the lineup or to Lehigh Valley. I'm not sure it can really be called a slump when the numbers are that bad for that long, and seemingly getting worse. That's like a great depression.
Quote from: PPinDC on May 09, 2008, 09:40:02 AM
He looks absolutely lost, and I haven't seen any signs that he could be coming around.
totally lost and clueless. I cringe when i see him on deck and have now resorted to leave the room when he bats. .161 jeez.
Quote from: QB Eagles on May 09, 2008, 02:59:53 PM
Pretty soon, people won't be debating whether or not to move him, but whether he should be moved further back in the lineup or to Lehigh Valley. I'm not sure it can really be called a slump when the numbers are that bad for that long, and seemingly getting worse. That's like a great depression.
it happened one year ago...he average is a little lower this year but i dont know why everyone is acting like this is something new...pat burrell was horrid for two YEARS straight and never left the lineup now howard needs to go to lehigh valley?
dont get me wrong i wanted him traded last year and im by no means defending him but its way to early to send him down or put greg dobbs in the cleanup hole
Hahaha. Lehigh Valley.
You guys kill me.
Howard=Black
Burrell=White
Simple.
No but really, IGY's right. If anything you keep sitting him every few games to let him know he needs to get his shtein together. But you don't move him from #4 when he's in the game. He started the year off slow last year, and now it's in his head. He looks a lot like Burrell did two years ago...you can tell that it's really in the back of his mind when he's at the plate. He's 40+ home runs when he breaks out of the slump, and he deserves every chance to do so. It just takes one good game to get over the hump. Not to mention the Philles are going to want to see him raise his stock as a trade chip, because there's no way they sign him long term now. And they're not going to accomplish that by batting him 7th.
stop agreeing with igy, idiot.
I like agreeing with whoever is right...this time it's IGY. Howard stays in the #4.
the only thing more annoying than you arguing with him is you agreeing with him.
shut up.
lol, because of Fox's exclusivity rights the Phils/Giants game this Saturday won't be on any TV at all
Giants could move the game to 4pm their time and it would air. But they won't.
Lidge Sucks.
:paranoid
Quote
So someone's speed gun said something different then the one i was following. So what? He's still trash.
No TV tomorrow at all? That farging blows. It seems to happen once a year because of those stupid ass rules. MLB are a buncha clowns.
I fell asleep tonight watching the game right after the Giants went up 4-1. I'm pissed because I missed the comeback and because Harry was on the EI feed.
Looks like Rollins came back with his hittin shoes on.
I remember when watching the Phils on tv was simple.......
If they were away, the game was on Fox 29.
If they were home, it was on PRISM.
In either case, all you heard was Harry and Richie calling the game for all 9 innings. Those were the days. :'(
I can remember when only about half the games were on TV at all.
And Sarge, it was never just Harry and Whitey for nine that I can recall. Remember Andy Musser?
Yeah.....I remember a third person but couldn't remember who it was. But what I was getting at was that you didn't have to deal with them switching commentators mid-game, bouncing back and forth between tv and radio. Sofa King Annoying.
Quote from: Sgt PSN on May 10, 2008, 12:15:01 PM
Yeah.....I remember a third person but couldn't remember who it was. But what I was getting at was that you didn't have to deal with them switching commentators mid-game, bouncing back and forth between tv and radio. Sofa King Annoying.
Still miss Whitey. Sarge is OK, but the magic that there was between Harry and Ashburn (which, admittedly, may be more the viewpoint of a child at the time) is just not there.
I miss the simplicity of listening and/or watching a ballgame too. Harry and Whitey were the real deal and their chemistry was something that was great to listen to.
All this blackout junk is a mess for NFL and MLB. The cable companies and the suits of the leagues have ruined shtein. FOX always has the goddamn Yankees or Red Sox. Same with ESPN. farg those two teams and their fans.
I thought PRISM was Larry Rosen, Jim Barniak, Kent Tekulve.....quality guys :P
yeah in the old days the only home games on regular TV (they kept switching between PHL-17, WTAF/WTXF-29 and Philly 57) were the Sunday 1:30 ones. Those stations also carried 98% of the road games (there were 1 or 2 each year that were on PRISM), and Saturday games and Businessperson Specials were never on TV...
Anyway, Moyer vs Lincecum could be ugly today
I coudn't really tell you who was on PRISM. Honey Brook had no access to cable until I went to college.
The game not being on TV is the Giants fault. Fox has an exclusive window from 4-7. From 1-4 games can be on TV, but not Extra Innings. The Giants suck and would rather have a 1pm their time start for a game to boost attendance rather than concern themselves with letting people see the game on TV.
The same thing happened a few years ago against the Nationals back when the Fox window was from 1-4.
Pipe down you old coots.
Shaddup, virgin.
Lincecum struck out the first 3 batters. Great start.
choke dawg just hit an opposite field shot....1-0
Howard for Lincecum... do it
I also miss Whitey but not so much for what he was as a broadcaster the last 10 years of so of his career. It's like Harry is now - painful to listen to because you remember just how excellent he was in his prime.
And good God the PRISM team sucked ass. Just awful.
Quote from: BigEd76 on May 10, 2008, 02:57:10 PMMoyer vs Lincecum could be ugly today
:-\
8-2 final (Coste hit a HR too)
lose 2 out of 3 to the giants? Happy Mother's Day!
Romero gave up a 2-out 2-run HR to a backup no-name catcher that had never homered before. Pathetic. Florida swept Washington, so the Phils are now 3 games out and pct points behind the Mets for 2nd
Eaton pitched well today.
Non-quality starts:
Eaton- 2
Kendrick- 3 (all early)
Myers- 5
Hamels- 3
Moyer- 4
Holla.
Werth in CF
Sir Hacksalot in RF
:sly
:-D
losing 3-0 already
but won 5-4 because Atlanta sucks on the road and in 1-run games
Lidge is human
Quote from: BigEd76 on May 13, 2008, 10:33:09 PM
but won 5-4 because Atlanta sucks on the road and in 1-run games
Lidge is human
Werth didn't do him any favors out there. He should have had that one fly ball for the third out.
And he and the Flyin' Hawaiian nearly collided on what was the third out. Victorino managed to hold on, though.
And the Reds beat the Marlins 5-3.
Yeah, Werth committed a major no-no there. He broke in on that ball and could not recover. And then in his wanting to make up for it he almost took out Victorino.
Good come from behind win though. Werth's 4 rbi's were huge as were Howard's two hits. Something should be said about Kendrick settling down too.
Phillies are 5-0 in his last 5 starts.
HE SUCKS.
Kendrick, Eaton and Moyer have for the most part kept the team in the game. The bullpen has been the best in the NL. Myers has sucked. King has been average and needs to pick it up. He should throw in the 1er over 7ip once a month.
I was wondering if we were going to see a Kyle Lohse update.
as soon as we see a Lidge mental health update from you
Last night not withstanding, he's been better than I expected. I am not going to get on him for one game...I am more concerned about July and August saves than I am April and May.
Now...can we all have that Lohse update?
can we have some cyanide laced kool aid instead?
Pronounced lowshe
and he currently ranks 7th in the NL in complete games
Tonight's game will be on ESPN at 7:05 et. Myers vs Glavine.
Glavine's going to get his first win of the season.
Since Myers is pitching, there's a pretty good chance of that.
Myers has already given up three solo shots, and a two run double to McCann.
5-0 Braves after 2 1/3rd.
White trash dog?
Good job tonight, Brett.
Now 8-0 after Madson comes in and gives up a single w the bases loaded.
fargbags.
I hear the reason that the phils traded for Brad Lidge was because with moving Myers back into the rotation, it was like acquiring a top notch starter, is that true?
Start Lidge?
Myers will be fine.
Meanwhile, the Phils are starting to make some noise. 8-4 now.
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on May 14, 2008, 09:13:20 PM
Myers will be fine.
Meanwhile, the Phils are starting to make some noise. 8-4 now.
wheels?
choke dog goes oppo off a lefty. looks likes hes finally heating up a bit.
Victorino actually swings the bat with the best hitter in the game on deck and with 1st base open, no less.
Just unreal.
Quote from: MDS on May 14, 2008, 09:30:30 PM
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on May 14, 2008, 09:13:20 PM
Myers will be fine.
Meanwhile, the Phils are starting to make some noise. 8-4 now.
wheels?
choke dog goes oppo off a lefty. looks likes hes finally heating up a bit.
Call me Wheels again, I'll kill ya.
Speaking of Wheels, I got to listen to the Phils feed again tonight. WTF have they done to that announcing line-up? Is it a contest to see how many people they can have call a game? In-game interviews?
Let Harry Kalas call the farging game. Stop the bullshtein, let the greatest have his stage and shut the other stupid fargers up.
Yea, it's pretty bad. There's too much nonsense going on.
Hacktorino wasn't going to get walked with the base opened and Utley on deck, so he was going to get a fastball and had to do something with it. He didn't and I believe swung at a ball inside. Oh well.
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on May 14, 2008, 09:13:20 PM
Myers will be fine.
In all seriousness...what could you possibly base this statement on?
Would you rather have Myers or Lohse?
::)
Rome and PG, sittin' in a tree?
::) ::)
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on May 14, 2008, 10:35:57 PM
Call me Wheels again, I'll kill ya.
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Nice article on Chasey here...
http://www.sportingnews.com/yourturn/viewtopic.php?t=411771
QuoteChase Utley just keeps busting his tail off
Posted: May 14, 2008
Chase Utley dug his left foot into the inside back corner of the lefthanded batter's box at Citizens Bank Park in Philadelphia, scattering the chalk closest to the plate, which had been untouched because, well, no one else stands that close to the plate.
This was last August, and it was Utley's first at-bat since Washington's John Lannan had broken Utley's right hand with an inside pitch 32 days earlier. He had been nonchalant about the injury -- after getting hit, he was asked what the worst-case scenario might be and replied, "I don't know. The hand might fall off?" And now, he was nonchalant in his return, crowding the plate, surgically repaired hand and all, as if daring pitchers to come back inside. Didn't matter. Utley went 3-for-5 with a homer and a double, helping the Phillies rout the Mets in the heat of a division race that Philadelphia eventually won.
This was nothing new. Gary Adams, Utley's coach at UCLA, recalls that Utley was consistently among the collegiate leaders in getting hit by pitches, much to Adams' chagrin: "I'd shake my head and just say, 'Please, please, please don't get hurt.' " Utley shrugs. Even with the month off, he led the majors in HBPs last year with 25 and, after the hand injury, allowed himself to be plunked eight times in his final 32 games. "It's just where I stand," he says. "It's where I'm comfortable. If I get hit, fine, I am on base. It's just part of baseball."
It's part of baseball the way Utley plays it, at least, with intensity and seriousness, an approach in which withstanding the sting of a major league fastball is an acceptable price for a trip to first base. This is a trait to be expected among those of middling talent, the scrappy, dirty-uniform ballplayers hustling for their big league lives. But Utley is an elite. He's the best second baseman in baseball, a two-time All-Star who hit .310 with 82 home runs and 310 RBIs in his first three full seasons in the majors. He has a swing so smooth and consistent you could set your watch by it. Still, he plays with the abandon of a guy who could be sent to Class AAA Lehigh Valley by next week.
Because of that, Adams compares Utley to another former Bruin, Diamondbacks outfielder Eric Byrnes. Told of this, Byrnes chuckles. "Maybe we're similar, but the difference is Chase has talent," Byrnes says. "Chase is one of the best baseball players I have ever seen, and he plays hard on top of that. I bust my butt out there, but I have to because I am not going to go down as one of the better players who ever played. Chase has that potential. He is in a different category than anyone playing the game right now. He has talent, but he still busts his butt out there."
The numbers Utley is posting could put him in yet a different category -- National League MVP. Utley is tied for the league lead in home runs and ranks among the N.L.'s top 15 in batting average, runs and RBIs, and he has helped keep the Phillies at or near the top of the N.L. East despite the fact the club lost Jimmy Rollins for nearly a month (twisted ankle) and has endured a severe slump from Ryan Howard. That pair -- Howard in 2006 and Rollins in '07 -- won the last two N.L. MVP awards, and an Utley win in '08 would be historic. Howard, Rollins and Utley would make the Phillies the first team since the 1961-63 Yankees (Roger Maris, Mickey Mantle and Elston Howard) to feature three consecutive different MVPs. "I could see it," says Phillies outfielder Geoff Jenkins. "I don't know who's playing better than him right now."
Just don't expect Utley to say much about it. As aggressive as he is on the field, Utley, 29, is quiet and contemplative off it, least comfortable musing on his own exploits. When he had a 35-game hitting streak in '06, Utley decided he would not discuss the streak, and he stuck to that policy until it ended. Ask him about this year's MVP prospects and he says much the same thing: "It's a bit early to be talking about that, isn't it?"
His father, Dave Utley, takes credit for that reticence. He recalls when his son was 11 or 12, in little league, complaining about a boastful teammate. "The kid was doing a lot of bragging," Dave recalls, "and that bothered Chase. So, I told him, 'Listen, if you're really good, you don't ever have to go around telling people how good you are. They'll tell you.' I think that sank in."
That, perhaps, could be the only thing that gets in the way of an MVP for Utley -- where Howard and Rollins are big personalities, Utley prefers to keep his personality personal. "He doesn't see the upside in talking about himself," his father says.
But there aren't many other holes in the case for an eventual Utley MVP. In college, he was weak defensively, a skinny shortstop who struggled to get zip on his throws. He was moved to second base and became an All-American in 2000. The Phillies switched Utley to third at Class AAA in 2002, but that was a disaster and he has been a second baseman ever since. He has settled into the position nicely, building himself from a decent second baseman into an outstanding one.
"That probably does not get talked about enough," says an N.L. scout. "This guy worked his tail off to make himself a great second baseman. His footwork is tremendous, he gets to everything, his ability to turn the double play is so much better than it used to be, and he does little things -- gets tags down quick, positions himself correctly -- that no one notices."
Which is not the case with Utley's swing. Everyone notices that. In 1997, when Utley was coming out of Poly High School in Long Beach, Calif., the Dodgers noticed and made Utley a second-round pick. He opted to go to college, though, and even as a 160-pound teenager, Utley employed the same balanced, fluid swing he uses now. He has put on a few pounds in the meantime -- the Phils list him at 6-1, 200 -- but he is still, by major league standards, string bean-like.
"If you took every player in the major leagues, stripped them and put them in order of how many home runs you think they'd hit based on body type, you would probably have Chase in the bottom 10 percent," Adams says. "But the thing for him is leverage. He's always been able to get great leverage on the ball, and that is going to make him a great hitter for a long, long time."
He's a great hitter now. But watch Utley when he digs into the batter's box -- he still gets that left foot into the inside corner of the chalk, still is willing to take the thwack of a fastball if it gets him on base. And, of course, he's tied for third in the N.L. in being hit by pitches. He's a great hitter, all right, but he's still busting his butt.
George Bush was asked if he was back in Baseball, and he could get any player to start a team, who would he go with if money was no object. He said "Chase Utley" The first thing he said in office that made any sense.
God throws a 4 hit shutout to beat the Cox's 5-0.
Check out Rollins' double play in the ninth. Just an insane example of his incredible athleticism. He was flat on his ass yet still had enough gas to get the ball over to Utley who then made a perfect pivot to Howard who also made a nice catch to seal the deal.
Quote from: Wingspan on May 15, 2008, 07:45:03 AM
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on May 14, 2008, 09:13:20 PM
Myers will be fine.
In all seriousness...what could you possibly base this statement on?
Because he has good stuff. He's been a good pitcher in the past and he's having location issues now. His fastball was too straight the other night and the location was a tad off. He has to make adjustments, and I believe he will.
In other words he sucks, but he can fix it? Hope springs eternal I suppose...
My optimistic attitude is refreshing
choke dog hit another bomb tonight. i believe off a lefty. can we say he is not crappy anymore?
Victorino's home run also qualifies as free pass off the crappy list. Until he goes 0-5 tonight than right back he goes.
It's the second half of May. He'll be on fire now until October 1st, then he'll suck again.
Just drove past CBP. Am I missing anything?
Quote from: FastFreddie on May 16, 2008, 07:45:28 PM
Just drove past CBP. Am I missing anything?
i think you might be retarded.
Jayson Werth is DESTROYING the Blue Jays. 3-run HR, Grand Slam, 7 RBI. It's the bottom of the third.
Quote from: FastFreddie on May 16, 2008, 07:45:28 PM
Just drove past CBP. Am I missing anything?
baseball sucks
Quote from: FastFreddie on May 16, 2008, 07:45:28 PM
Just drove past CBP. Am I missing anything?
the guardrail
You're just upset I didn't call you to hang out.
Holy shtein...make that 3 HRs for Werth now.
3R
Grand Slam
Solo shot
Can he do it 4 times? And add in a 2R homer?
Amazing.
tied the Phillies record for RBIs in a game (Schmidt and 3 others) and he still has 2 more ABs
its amazing its incredible
Moyer will blow it, though, because he's ANNNNNNNNNNNNNNNCIENT!
Christ. I actually could have been there to see it.
thats like me saying "damn i cant believe i missed that soul game"
I'm not the one that hates baseball. That's your buddy rjs.
my bad....perhaps im equating uneducated about with disliking
Is It Werth It, Let Me Work It
Bases loaded w/ no outs....Barajas goes opposite-field grand slam off Eaton. Put a bullet in his f'ing head already
Quote from: FastFreddie on May 16, 2008, 07:45:28 PM
Just drove past CBP. Am I missing anything?
Posting while driving, eh? I'm amazed by your ability to sink to new, unthinkable lows.
Rod Barajas - 5
Phillies - 3
They let that sack of shtein singlehandedly beat them. Where was that power last year, Rod? farging garbage.
Cut Eaton.
Oh and Butterfingers Choke Dawg dropped another one right at chest level. He tried to pimp it by flipping his glove a little and it bounced off.
Add in 3 more K's for him too.
Best part of the game was someone watching Princess Bride and surfing through youtube videos in front of me. Who knew that CBP had wireless?
Also who knew that Armando Benetiz was alive?
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on May 17, 2008, 11:54:37 PM
Oh and Butterfingers Choke Dawg dropped another one right at chest level.
has anyone in the history of baseball ever missed two little league catches like he has in one year...has anyone ever missed one?....dook is a joke
lol @ easy freaking out about an ex phillie coming back to haunt.....his worst nightmare
Eaton...he's a solid 5th starter.
Quote from: PhillyGirl on May 18, 2008, 09:37:04 AM
Eaton...he's a solid 5th starter.
This year, he mostly has been. Not great, but not the horrific nightmare he was last year. I wouldn't mind seeing the staff improved. Yes, he gave up a salami to Rod F. Barajas, but afterwards kept the Phils within striking distance.
Now, we can talk about the supposed number 2. He's been a freaking nightmare, and I don't see an improving trend in the future.
Number one need for the trading deadline should be a #2 starter. Unfortunately, I don't believe that a) the Phils have the trading chips to pull it off and b) that the Phils would have the balls to do it even if they did.
Burrell is 10 for 48 with 1 home run and 6 rbi's in May. His average has dropped from .333 on May 1st to .286 after last night's 0'fer.
Quote from: Rome on May 18, 2008, 10:27:54 AM
Burrell is 10 for 48 with 1 home run and 6 rbi's in May. His average has dropped from .333 on May 1st to .286 after last night's 0'fer.
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Quote from: Geowhizzer on May 18, 2008, 09:45:45 AM
Quote from: PhillyGirl on May 18, 2008, 09:37:04 AM
Eaton...he's a solid 5th starter.
This year, he mostly has been. Not great, but not the horrific nightmare he was last year. I wouldn't mind seeing the staff improved. Yes, he gave up a salami to Rod F. Barajas, but afterwards kept the Phils within striking distance.
It was sarcasm and no, he's not a solid starter at ANY spot. Even a #5. He's garbage and the sooner they get rid of him the better.
Quote from: PhillyGirl on May 18, 2008, 10:52:11 AM
Quote from: Geowhizzer on May 18, 2008, 09:45:45 AM
Quote from: PhillyGirl on May 18, 2008, 09:37:04 AM
Eaton...he's a solid 5th starter.
This year, he mostly has been. Not great, but not the horrific nightmare he was last year. I wouldn't mind seeing the staff improved. Yes, he gave up a salami to Rod F. Barajas, but afterwards kept the Phils within striking distance.
It was sarcasm and no, he's not a solid starter at ANY spot. Even a #5. He's garbage and the sooner they get rid of him the better.
I realize it was sarcasm. That's what we usually get from you. And, as I said, this year he usually has been a decent
#5 starter. Yes, he's not a great starter. But list #5 starters that are.
A much bigger problem for this team is Brett Myers. Eaton, who sucks, has had better results than the team's
#2 starter. If a pitcher is killing this team this year, it is the wife-beating practical joker.
To summarize....
Myers = Not pitching anywhere near as well as he should be.
Eaton = Not pitching anywhere near as bad as he should be.
Next.
Quote from: Sgt PSN on May 18, 2008, 11:12:40 AM
To summarize....
Myers = Not pitching anywhere near as well as he should be.
Eaton = Not pitching anywhere near as bad as he should be.
Next.
Ryan Howard = Strikeout Machine Glove Butcher.
Next.
PG's irrational hatred of Eaton is hilarious
The slam to someone as awful as Barajas was pathetic, but he didn't single-handedly lose that game last night. Phils offense could only muster out 3 runs. Eaton has been about as good as you're gonna get from a #5 starter this year. It's actually been a pleasant surprise.
choke dawg goes yard again...2-0
Quote from: BigEd76 on May 18, 2008, 02:00:35 PM
choke dawg goes yard again...2-0
Seems to be feast or famine for Howard right now. HR or Ks galore.
Tarp is off....expected to restart at 4:05 with Durbin pitching
Did Sarge just say "Oh shtein!" on that home run?
up 3-0, now down 6-3. great.
Quote from: BigEd76 on May 18, 2008, 05:44:18 PM
up 3-0, now down 6-3. great.
THey're depressed about the Flyers game.
back on after another rain delay. Toronto used Roy Halladay as a reliever to get Burrell out. 6-4 in the 7th
Burrell goes yard to make it 6-5 with 2 outs, then Coste double and Bruntett K's. He almost got two alls fair down the line at 3rd though.
The HP ump Laz Diaz was in a hurry to get gone though. He called some brutal pitches as strikes in the 9th.
here's the video of those "strikes" (http://youtube.com/watch?v=qjKg_6iqiGQ)
that is hilarious
I like the slo-mo closeup at the end.
Quote from: BigEd76 on May 18, 2008, 09:24:55 PM
here's the video of those "strikes" (http://youtube.com/watch?v=qjKg_6iqiGQ)
That guy has to be punished somehow, right? That's incredible.
And they are getting shut down by Cy farging Redding again. He 1-hit their asses last time. Now they get hits but no hits with RISP.
1st inning - Rollins out; Vic single, Utley single then Howard and Burrell out
2nd inning - Jenkins double, gets stranded
3rd inning - Rollins out; Vic single, Utley single then Howard and Burrell out
4th inning - Jenkins double, gets stranded
Then they don't do shtein.
And Ray Knight is absolutely TERRIBLE. He never shuts up. Gimme Wheels over this guy any day long.
I went and saw the Single A Clearwater team tonight.
I won't bore you with all the details but I'll pass this along: They had SIX baserunners either picked off by the pitcher or thrown out by a fielder in seven innings. SIX fargING RUNNERS.
The Phillies Way, ladies and gentlemen. :yay
Good step in preparing them for the big club. Now once they master not hitting with runners on, dropping easy balls right in the chest area and bobbling balls they'll be fast-tracked.
What a shtein ass game.
phreak what was our other bet (not the myers one)
88 wins I think, no? I had the over.
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on May 20, 2008, 09:23:49 AM
88 wins I think, no? I had the over.
ah right...team wins....i dont remember the number but i have it written down at home....i couldnt even remember what the bet was about
Some interesting baseball stories as told by the fans. (http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=3404999&lpos=spotlight&lid=tab4pos2)
This one is pretty cool...
Quote"This is a college baseball story, but about a current major leaguer, so hopefully it qualifies. I remember watching Pat Burrell, who had already clubbed two homers for Miami against the J.D. Drew-led Seminoles. His next time up, the pitcher threw a fastball right at him. But instead of diving away, Burrell took his hand off the bat and caught the ball with his bare hand. He threw it to the ground in disgust, stared down the pitcher (who probably soiled himself), then went on to hit another home run later for good measure."
--JT (Miami)
Sweet.
I wonder if that's true.
He must have had his scrotes removed after he went pro.
Cole looking ridiculous as usual.
Quote from: Munson on May 20, 2008, 08:32:59 PM
Cole looking ridiculous as usual.
Unfortunately, so is the Phils' offense.
holy s....a run
1-0 Phils, bottom of the 9th
I have Hamels on my fantasy team. I pointed out to myself watching the game how dick it is to take him out bottom 8th so he had no chance of winning. Obviously the Fils get a run in the 9th.
He had 110 pitches. Not sure what you're driving out there.
always needs to be interesting huh
6-7-8-PH vs Lidge
strikeout
strikeout
walk
steals 2nd
steals 3rd
walk
grounder to Chase is bobbled but they get the out at 1st
1-0 win
wish Dobbs had bowled that SOB over. Great tag though.
What was up with that crackhead Elijah Dukes? Was he angry at Lidge for something? He flipped his bat after the walk and then looked all pissed off like he had somethng to prove.
And I reiterate about the Nats announcers....holy hell they are terrible. Gimme Wheels and MDS in the booth all day over those yokels.
Quote from: Don Ho on May 20, 2008, 10:02:10 PM
wish Dobbs had bowled that SOB over. Great tag though.
Great block. And yes, Dobbs should have plowed him.
Gotta point out Howard's K's again, especially the last one where he flailed at a pitch in the RH box. Oh, and the wonderful throw after Cole had picked off Guzman that sailed past Utley and would have gotten to Burrell had Jimmy not been there.
You know you would love me announcing the game, Jasony.
the new nats stadium is nice but boring as shtein. but igy somehow got us some extra beers after the 7th which is hard to do.
the metro ride back was fun. when i walked in, i asked some girl who she would eat first if the zombies came, and then the whole ride turned into a monster fest. it was awesome.
Quote from: MDS on May 20, 2008, 11:07:52 PM
You know you would love me announcing the game, Jasony.
You, Marcus Hayes and Wheels in the booth. Havas doing sideline reports so you guys could can continue to build your rapport together.
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on May 20, 2008, 10:33:18 PM
And I reiterate about the Nats announcers....holy hell they are terrible. Gimme Wheels and MDS in the booth all day over those yokels.
lost track after the 100th "We". The more I hear some of these other announcers around MLB, Wheels ain't half bad. I am still getting over the Diamondbacks crew.
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on May 20, 2008, 10:33:18 PM
What was up with that crackhead Elijah Dukes? Was he angry at Lidge for something? He flipped his bat after the walk and then looked all pissed off like he had somethng to prove.
And I reiterate about the Nats announcers....holy hell they are terrible. Gimme Wheels and MDS in the booth all day over those yokels.
The Nats announcers are easily the worst in the league. It's not a sin to be homertastic in baseball since they are the local announcers, but it is to just be mind-numbingly boring. They actually make me pine for the Braves' announcers.
yeah nats announcers are unbelievably boring but still light years better than wheels who is probably the worst announcer in any sport...jack edwards is a close second
ive actually always liked the brave announcers
this series has been a nightmare....been there for 18 innings and seen one phillie run...the scariest thing ive seen tho pat burrells raised hands sucked in stomach take that we saw every in every one of his at bats a few years ago....not a good sign at all
utley - choke - jimmy - burrell are 14 for their last 92 (.152)
choke has more k's than rbi walks homers doubles and triples combined
Skip Carey was friggen awesome as a PBP guy. His son Chip is a worthless piece of shtein, though.
burrell is a streaky player. he'll get it going again soon enough. the thing that keeps him in the lineup is the obp, though. even though hes hitting in the low .200's, his obp is still close to .400.
I assume you mean he's hitting in the low .200's during May because his avg for the year is .278.
choke with 2 monster home runs tonight
btw, apparently on the Nats broadcast, Ray Knight was spouting off about how well he hit off of Carlton and proclaimed that Zimmerman is already a better fielder than Schmidt was
Yep, he was. He said Zimmerman was the best 3B he's seen since Brooks Robinson. He said he loved Schmitty but he played all his games on turf and it is easier to field on turf. Oh, and because Schmitty didn't dive and get dirty as much as Zimmerman does.
12-0 Bums.
No kidding.
I hate this team.
No shutout thanks to our buddy Clay Condrey.
Another 0-4 for Pat. Boy he really is streaky.
Meanwhile, Choke Dog hit an absolute bomb against Chico. Not safe to say he's back, but he's been in that "mediocre to average" area the past few weeks, a marked improvement from what he did in April.
He looked clueless on the first two pitches and then Chico made the mistake of throwing him the same exact pitch a third time.
Hello, upper deck.
me and matty had more beers tonight than the phillies had runs....and that was before i left and had a booze cruise on the way home
my hero
Lost in the offensive explosion / Nats implosion is the Houdini-like pitching of Moyer last night. The Nats had several chances where it looked like they would score at least a run, and perhaps several (1st/3rd no outs twice), and Moyer wriggled out of all of them without giving up a run.
He throws slop up there that looks like you and I (probably not MDS, though) could hit it, but he had the Nats way in front of just about everything.
Quote from: munson grillin you on May 22, 2008, 12:03:19 AM
me and matty had more beers tonight than the phillies had runs....and that was before i left and had a booze cruise on the way home
Ha, excellent. Very subtle.
Ray Knight said "we", "us" or "our" at least 50 times last night. And he never shuts up. Ever.
And lol at m-g-y.
Quote from: Rome on May 22, 2008, 08:56:53 AM
Ray Knight said "we", "us" or "our" at least 50 times last night. And he never shuts up. Ever.
And lol at m-g-y.
I did laugh in spite of myself when one of the announcers said something like the following: "For those fans just tuning in: HELP!"
we almost got thrown out last night for throwing cups at the command center, whatever that is.
haha...awful
The Astros' announcers were beginning to rake this kid over the coals for "reaching over the railing" to catch Burrell's home run. Then the replay showed:
1. The kid didn't catch it.
2. The kid didn't reach over the fence.
3. The ball cleared the top of the fence.
if this stays like this into the 9th gonna be real interesting to see lidge
almost got interesting after Tejada singled and Berkman up.. First pitch pop up = WE WIN!
Surfing on Kauai this weekend, Choke dawg finally going off, Victorino out of his slump, dam the booze is gonna taste good. Don't drink and surf! (unless Eaton is pitching).
Had to go to sleep after the Phils went up 6-5. Glad to see they held on.
Phreak, are you going to one of these games?
QuoteThe matchup all the fans were anticipating fizzled when Berkman got under a fastball off the plate.
"It's just very difficult to square the ball up against him," Berkman said. "I hit it as good as I could, but it went straight up in the air, so that did not do us a whole lot of good."
Baseball players are so smrt.
is that emmitt berkman?
Eaton sucks
Valverde just took a liner off the side of the head from Pedro Feliz. Seems to be OK, but that was scary for a minute.
In the replay, it looks like it went off the shoulder first. And he's staying in the game.
Howard + Hacktorio = bums.
Eaton gave them another solid outing and they could only muster 3 runs. He sucks. Call up Anna Benson.
Werth to the DL. Stoner Bohn is back
Is he expected to be back as soon as he's eligible?
Couldn't hit a sac fly tonight. Yay.
bums
This team would be unstoppable with a respectable starting rotation.
howard is a farging embarrassment at 1st, hopefully he finishes the year red hot and they can trade him to an AL team, he's the definition of a DH
The Phillies are wearing out another pitching staff tonight. 10-4 Bums, end of four.
They will score 1 run the next 2 nights.
Good call.
Coste just jacked a three run dinger.
13-4 Bums.
I think Taguchi had 8 hits coming into today's game. He has 3 tonight.
27 runs in their last 10 innings :-D
16-4 Bums
20-4 Bums
:-D
7-0 Phils after 2.
42 runs in the last 20 innings.
They only scored 7 runs those Hoydas.
this is nuts...
really, the offensive onslaught began last Wednesday night when the Phillies hung 12 runs on Washington at Nationals Park. That was six games ago, and during this stretch, the Phillies have scored 60 runs and are batting .349 (82-for-235) with a .418 on-base percentage and .613 slugging percentage.
Here's a breakdown of how each player has done during the six-game stretch. What you'll find is offensive balance throughout the lineup, something the Phillies have been looking for since the season began.
Pedro Feliz: 13-for-27 (.481), 1 HR, 8 RBI, 7 R
Chris Coste: 7-for-17 (.412), 1 HR, 5 RBI, 3 R
Shane Victorino: 11-for-27 (.407), 1 HR, 5 RBI, 10 R
Ryan Howard: 9-for-24 (.375), 4 HR, 12 RBI, 9 R
Greg Dobbs: 3-for-8 (.375), 2 RBI, 2 R
So Taguchi: 3-for-8 (.375), 3 RBI, 3 R
Jimmy Rollins: 10-for-30 (.333), 4 RBI, 3 R
Carlos Ruiz: 4-for-13 (.308), 2 RBI, 2 R
Chase Utley: 7-for-23 (.304), 2 HR, 11 RBI, 6 R
Geoff Jenkins: 4-for-14 (.286), 1 HR, 3 RBI, 3 R
Pat Burrell: 5-for-19 (.263), 3 HR, 3 RBI, 5 R
burrell sucks
Holy Lord.
QuoteThe Phils are now six games over .500. Last year's team didn't achieve that until they won on July 29th! This team is two months ahead of schedule.
That excalamation point is entirely unnecessary.
No, it's warranted. The July 29th part is intended to be read louder than the rest of the sentence.
thats a pretty interesting number...its ironic that even in accomplishing that they would still be out of the playoffs if the season ended right now
i wonder if the nl is that much better or if the teams at the bottom are that much worse
Quote from: rjs246 on May 28, 2008, 01:01:24 PM
That excalamation point is entirely unnecessary.
98% of them are
Joe Kerrigan is on WIP and he said that hitters are hitting over .400 off of myers' first two pitches of an at bat, ha
Quote from: ice grillin you on May 28, 2008, 01:03:59 PM
thats a pretty interesting number...its ironic that even in accomplishing that they would still be out of the playoffs if the season ended right now
i wonder if the nl is that much better or if the teams at the bottom are that much worse
wait for some things to even themselves out with those central teams and florida. you figure if the phils stay on this pace they shouldnt have a problem making the playoffs.
The Mets could still get hot.
Couldn't they?
Quote from: MDS on May 28, 2008, 02:18:25 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on May 28, 2008, 01:03:59 PM
thats a pretty interesting number...its ironic that even in accomplishing that they would still be out of the playoffs if the season ended right now
i wonder if the nl is that much better or if the teams at the bottom are that much worse
wait for some things to even themselves out with the phillies' pitching. Then they'll fall even further behind in the wild card race.
Seth Smith has been thrown out at home twice in this series now. Tool.
Three run smash from Chasey followed by a two run dinger from Geoffy. 6-1 Phils.
brooms :yay
Myers/Hamels/Moyer vs former 76er Mark Hendrickson, Ricky Nolasco and Andrew Miller this weekend
Eaton finally gets a win. Nice to see.
He's actually pitched well enough to have 3-4 by now at least. That said, he's probably just catching up with last year, when he might have deserved 2-3 all year.
awful 1986 phillies commercials
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s1eEdO1yYNw
Juan Samuel, Von Hayes, Kevin Gross, John Felske - Good times.
Quote from: FastFreddie on May 29, 2008, 02:25:17 PM
Juan Samuel, Von Hayes, Kevin Gross
i have all of their starting lineup figures.
Quote from: phattymatty on May 29, 2008, 02:38:42 PM
Quote from: FastFreddie on May 29, 2008, 02:25:17 PM
Juan Samuel, Von Hayes, Kevin Gross
i have all of their starting lineup figures.
I don't have Kevin Gross, but I do have Hayes and Sammy along wtih Shane Rawley, Bedrock and 2 Schmitty's. I think I might have one more but can't remember who.
Quick trivia...who was Von Hayes traded away for? (when he left the phils)
Hint: He's with the team now.
Ruben the Douche.
I hate nights with no games lol
yep.
I was at the 26-7 game that Hayes hit two dingers in the first inning.
Quote from: SunMo on May 29, 2008, 01:54:32 PM
awful 1986 phillies commercials
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s1eEdO1yYNw
since you guys love to get on my case, it's my turn :-*
Quote from: BigEd76 on May 05, 2008, 10:03:36 PM
Phillies promotions in 1986 (http://youtube.com/watch?v=s1eEdO1yYNw)
Those first three commercials are creepy. The three fans look and sound like they were being filmed in peep show jerkoff booths.
How about that healthy lunch for the kids
hot dog
potato chips
soft pretzel
ice cream
candy bar
Tastykakes
Coke
Good God, Myers is farging horrid.
who would have thought adam eaton would be better than brett myers this year...i didnt think much of myers going into to the season but good god is he worthless
oh and lol at chuck for putting myers ahead of king in the rotation
They both suck. Please.
Eaton had a good outing the other day. Wow. Good for him. Its about time.
Myers is farging atrocious.
Oh wow....Myers got an out. Praise the baseball gods. ::)
Quote from: PhillyGirl on May 29, 2008, 07:50:16 PM
I hate nights with no games lol
I hate nights when Meyers pitches.
eaton is better than myers this year so far....period
Burrell, what the farg was that?
Plain awful.
ok much better, meyers got um right where we wants um :paranoid
that might have been chokes best at bat this season
lol philly girl is still on here stubborn high horse, refusing to admit that eaton has been fairly average this year. give it up, honey.
meanwhile, COASTEY!
farging mlb.com just went out for a minute and comes back on as Coste walks into the dugout. :boom
they should sit on hendricksons fastball for the rest of the night because he cannot get any off speed pitches over the plate so far
i love when harry says shane vick-tore-reen-ooooooo
i love when Wheels uses terms like "Sick". Wheels the total surf dude.
hes like the young kids today like to use the term sick
um wheels its been around since the 80's
he is extra sickening when the phils are winning or playing well...almost to point of you rooting against the team so hes not a giddy little cock
I hate Wheels
I heart this offense.
i thought maybe a big lead would make myers more comfortable when he comes back out...nope he just sucks
Cole
Moyer
Kendrick
Eaton
aids
Myers
Quote from: SunMo on May 30, 2008, 08:05:09 PM
i thought maybe a big lead would make myers more comfortable when he comes back out...nope he just sucks
Cole
Moyer
Kendrick
aids
Eaton
Myers
Your love for Eaton is strange.
Trade for Lohse.
Quote from: PhillyGirl on May 30, 2008, 08:11:25 PM
Quote from: SunMo on May 30, 2008, 08:05:09 PM
i thought maybe a big lead would make myers more comfortable when he comes back out...nope he just sucks
Cole
Moyer
Kendrick
aids
Eaton
Myers
Your love for Eaton is strange.
it's not even love, but anybody with a half a brain can see that eaton's been decent this year...you can't get over last year, which makes you a worse negative fan than anybody because you are like those dopes in the stands that boo a guy when he's playing well because they remember when he played like shtein. here's the deal, you criticize when they suck, cheer when they do well...right now eaton doesn't suck, and for the #5 pitcher in the rotation...that's good enough.
looks like that hick wifebeater has calmed his trashy little skinhead ass down. looks like.
im legitimately embarrassed about that homerun
Quote from: MDS on May 30, 2008, 08:24:17 PM
looks like that hick wifebeater has calmed his trashy little skinhead ass down. looks like.
seven runs (and now 11) will do that...i dont think i ever wanna see myers in a tough situation again tho...hes got no toughness which would explain why he beats on women
he was decent as a closer though, so that somewhat debunks that theory
being a closer doesnt automatically make you tough...it might take a different mindset but theres plenty of people that have saved 20 games once in their life who arent tough
tough is being over a hundred pitches and having a guy in scoring poisition in the 8th inning of a tie game and having to get him out...or getting into a jam by hitting someone and your 2b butchering a ball to put two on with one out...then ignoring what just happend and striking out a couple couple guys to get out of it
myers is front running women beater
8 IP
117 pitches (75 strikes)
11 K's
3 BB's
6 hits
3 ER
If he could rock that every start, I'd be happy.
The three runs Myers gave up shouldn't have been all earned runs either. I mean, how does Burrell not get an error on that lazy fly ball he butchered?
He pulled a Ricky Watters on that play.
On the other hand, how hot is this offense right now? Good God - opposing pitchers must be pooping in their pants at the prospect of facing these fools.
If a pitcher gives up 3 runs in the first inning and then settles down and pitches a solid game without giving up another run, does that mean he's got some mental toughness?
no....i can pitch with an eight run lead...also id say he pitched more than a solid game...he pitched an excellent game
The Marlins had a chance to completely destroy Myers last night and let him off the hook by being undisciplined at the plate. Uggla watched Myers walk the man in front of him on four pitches, so of course, the first pitch he sees he swings at, pops up, and thereby lets Myers compose himself a little.
It's inexcusable that a player who has reached the Major Leagues would do that, especially a guy who's as hot at the plate and talented overall as Uggla is, but that's what massive expansion has done to the level of play. Players come to the Majors without enough seasoning to avoid making the most fundamental mistakes on the field and in the box.
second crap start in a row from hamels. what a Hoyda.
today's game is on TBS for the out-of-towners
about ten minutes ago i was flipping out cause i couldnt get the game on my computer
I have to watch this one on FoxSports Florida because of blackout rules. Hearing Tommy Hutton celebrating these home runs is irritating me.
Moyer doing his Cole Hamels (of yesterday) impression.
Blacked out everywhere here.
I cannot understand why in the hell a game that is being played 1,000 miles away can be blacked out, especially when the Marlins home base is 275 miles away from this market.
MLB is such a joke.
the ownership better farging make a trade deadline deal for a big time pitcher regardless of salary...
give carrasco
give whoever you need to give
but get it done
Quote from: ice grillin you on June 01, 2008, 02:34:40 PM
the ownership better farging make a trade deadline deal for a big time pitcher regardless of salary...
give carrasco
give whoever you need to give
but get it done
Two problems:
1. The minor leagues do not have enough talent to compete with other teams.
2. This is the cheapskate Philadelphia Phillies we're talking about. 125 years of cheapskate antics - why would that change now? The only owners willing to actually spend money on the franchise was the Carpenter family.
the best they're gonna do is maddux or randy wolf from san diego. the two big names out there would be sabathia and sheets, phillies dont have the balls/talent to get it done.
maddux has a ntc and its doubtful he would even want to come here, but he'll be out there. and hes like 50.
maddux is a right handed moyer he wouldnt win them a world series
and they have plenty of talent to get a frontline pitcher...their farm system as a whole is weak but they have enough at the top end to easily get it done...it really all comes down to be willing to spend the money
gillick proved he would spend the money so long as it was short term. a guy like sheets is going to command a lot and he cant even stay healthy.
chances are they get another kyle lohse.
Quote from: ice grillin you on June 01, 2008, 03:08:28 PM
and they have plenty of talent to get a frontline pitcher...their farm system as a whole is weak but they have enough at the top end to easily get it done...it really all comes down to be willing to spend the money
No, they actually don't.
And before you tell me I am wrong again....give me 3 top 50 prospects (in baseball) the phils have to use as trade bait?
Their minor leagues suck.
Geoffreysey!
Burrellsey!
It was nice to see Gordon do a complete 180 after Rollins gave him a quick pep talk. I thought we were going to see full-scale implosion in the 8th.
Good bounce-back win today. It's about time Jenkins did something worthwhile. Choke flashed a little bit of leather today too, he made two good plays defensively.
As for getting a top line pitcher....unless they give up Carrasco, Happ, basticho and someone else they don't have a shot at landing a stud. Sabathia would be nice, but if you get someone like him the FO had better be ready to sign him because if not he's a rental and then the Yankees will sign him next year.
Sheets would be nice, if he could stay healthy. But again, they would have to give up a lot. Trade deadline deals always have higher price tags because the sellers have most of the leverage.
Maybe Joe Blanton can be had. But The A's turned down Homer Bailey from the Reds during the winter.
BTW, I really like the johnson joints they were rocking today, except for the ghay blue hat.
I like them too. Even the blue hat; so much that I bought one last week.
The jerseys are solid. Next thing they need to do is change the ugly gray road uni's. Home pinstripes could perhaps use a slight touchup, but they are fine.
Quote from: FastFreddie on June 01, 2008, 06:36:49 PM
BTW, I really like the johnson joints they were rocking today, except for the ghay blue hat.
Ditto.
Quote from: FastFreddie on June 01, 2008, 03:45:38 PM
It was nice to see Gordon do a complete 180 after Rollins gave him a quick pep talk. I thought we were going to see full-scale implosion in the 8th.
RECAP (http://www.philly.com/philly/sports/20080602_J-Roll_Talks_the_Talk.html)
QuoteBut there was a moment shortly after Burrell's big hit that figured almost as large in the Phils' ninth win in 12 games, and if you blinked you might have missed it.
Reliever Tom Gordon, called upon to protect the lead in the eighth, walked the first batter he faced, pinch-hitter Luis Gonzalez, on five pitches, and the crowd began to get loud and antsy.
Gordon then threw two straight balls to dangerous Hanley Ramirez, the potential tying run.
That was enough for Jimmy Rollins, who trotted in from shortstop and let Gordon have it.
"He got on my ass," Gordon said. "He said, 'What the heck are you doing? Throw strikes. Babe Ruth's dead.' "
Rollins' little pep talk worked. Gordon turned into a different pitcher. He threw three straight fastballs and struck out Ramirez. He then retired Jeremy Hermida on a pop-up and Jorge Cantu on a fly ball to make everyone in the ballpark breathe easier.
M. V. P.
Yeah, so Gordon made up the exact quote, but still...
Quote from: Wingspan on June 01, 2008, 03:44:31 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on June 01, 2008, 03:08:28 PM
and they have plenty of talent to get a frontline pitcher...their farm system as a whole is weak but they have enough at the top end to easily get it done...it really all comes down to be willing to spend the money
No, they actually don't.
And before you tell me I am wrong again....give me 3 top 50 prospects (in baseball) the phils have to use as trade bait?
Their minor leagues suck.
carrasco cardenas and maybe another lower level guy would easily get a frontline starter....their farm system sucks because it has terrible depth...every team in the majors has a few top prospects its the depth that seperates the good systems from the bad
The Phils don't have any prospects in the top 50, and Carrasco is the only one in the top 100. Cardenas and Savery could be prospects, but nobody is trading for A-level players because they're unproven...
yo easy lay off igy dude knows his minor league baseball prospect trade value like he knows the early 90's rap scene
Quote from: BigEd76 on June 02, 2008, 11:03:36 AM
The Phils don't have any prospects in the top 50, and Carrasco is the only one in the top 100. Cardenas and Savery could be prospects, but nobody is trading for A-level players because they're unproven...
Holy shtein, that is bleak. Not only for this year's trade potential but for years and years to come.
carrasco is in the top 50 of several rankings but even if you think hes top 100 thats still huge...him and cardenas or savery or marson could easily be packaged for a starter...
again a lack of talent isnt the problem its whether the phils are willing to pull the trigger and with them finally having an outstanding bullpen improving the starting pitching could get you a world series this year...
i say could because a lot can happen btwn now and the deadline but if nothing much changes before then then the phils can trade their entire minor league organization for all i care
id do that for sabathia if hes out there. probably not sheets, hes never quite healthy. other than that, this supposed igy trade doesnt exist because there wont be more front line starters available.
phils will get to see the reds other phenom this series on thursday
tonight - arroro vs kendrick
tues - harang vs eaton
wed - volquez vs myers
thurs - bailey vs hamels
Quote from: ice grillin you on June 02, 2008, 01:03:16 PM
carrasco is in the top 50 of several rankings but even if you think hes top 100 thats still huge...him and cardenas or savery or marson could easily be packaged for a starter...
They would have to be packaged together. And even that is not going to be enough to get a top of the line starter.
And if you're putting this together for a starter, you might as well just bring up Carrasco. Otherwise you're just renting a player until the end of the season. Maybe a season and a half... again, you could just bring up Carrasco.
Carrasco and a minor impact player like Jayson Werth could probably get you Ben Sheets, but that's a stupid trade.
Quote from: ice grillin you on June 02, 2008, 01:03:16 PM
again a lack of talent isnt the problem its whether the phils are willing to pull the trigger and with them finally having an outstanding bullpen improving the starting pitching could get you a world series this year...
No...lack of talent is the problem now. Unless you're talking blockbuster deal that includes Howard or a top tier guy from the major league roster. The phils have shown they are willing to do the deal...(look at the garcia deal). The minors are stripped of any legit prospects. There's 1 guy that is on some top 50 rankings. And another 1 or two in single A ball that sometimes crack a top 100 list? Color me not impressed.
You want another starter? (and really, who doesn't see this need)...you have to hope for a resurgence out of Benson (not likely)...or than an AL team that is stacked in their starting rotation that will take Burrell (and to have Burrell waive his NTC). (slightly less unlikely)
ill rent a player anyday to win a world series NOW which is something carrasco cannot bring this year
I think it's funny you guys are criticizing a farm system that has produced the past two league MVP's and another player who's the clear front runner this year.
Benson shut down again tonight in Clearwater. Biceps tightness again.
So yeah, about trading for a starter....
Quote from: Rome on June 02, 2008, 06:21:03 PM
I think it's funny you guys are criticizing a farm system that has produced the past two league MVP's and another player who's the clear front runner this year.
two different things...its def true that the system produced a ton on the current team but its also true that theyve had more than enough years to replenish it and they havent done a good job of that
that was another disgraceful bank homer
dook's got 21 and its the first few days of june. stop hatin.
im not hatin on him he cant control it...but the park is a friggin joke
Quote from: ice grillin you on June 02, 2008, 07:14:23 PM
Quote from: Rome on June 02, 2008, 06:21:03 PM
I think it's funny you guys are criticizing a farm system that has produced the past two league MVP's and another player who's the clear front runner this year.
two different things...its def true that the system produced a ton on the current team but its also true that theyve had more than enough years to replenish it and they havent done a good job of that
The starters at 1B, 2B, SS, LF, CF & C are all home grown talent and all of those players are under 30 (other than Costey). Their top two starters are home grown and so are Kendrick, Madson and several other pitchers.
I realize they don't have starting caliber players waiting in the minors but they do have good talent down there, especially at the high A level and below.
If you look at the teams with great minor league systems, the big clubs have either been horrible forever (Tampa) or their budget have allowed them to constantly sign players above slot. We have to be realistic with the minor league system the same way we do about the Phillies themselves. They'll never be Boston or the Yankees because we, the fans, don't require them to be. Expecting any different from the organization is kinda silly, IMO.
Quote from: ice grillin you on June 02, 2008, 07:35:30 PM
im not hatin on him he cant control it...but the park is a friggin joke
negative nancy get negative on biron. he looks like he was in a concentration camp.
i wasnt killing the talent level...in fact i was the only one saying they had enough to get a good starter at the deadline....but lets be real its not very good from top to bottom right now
Victorino isn't a homegrown talent
Quote from: MDS on June 02, 2008, 07:43:08 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on June 02, 2008, 07:35:30 PM
im not hatin on him he cant control it...but the park is a friggin joke
negative nancy get negative on biron. he looks like he was in a concentration camp.
you can homer it up as much as you want and more power to you for it....i however will continue to call things as i see them
eskin?
i saw the replay of Chase's home run, that wasn't a cheapo, that's a legit part of the park
sounds like someone listened to Howard today
anyone know this broad?
(http://www.thefightins.com/wp-content/images_05_08/meechone/drunkgirlthrowup2.jpg)
Quote from: SunMo on June 02, 2008, 07:47:17 PM
i saw the replay of Chase's home run, that wasn't a cheapo, that's a legit part of the park
no way...that ball is in the gap in a lot of parks...arroyos face said it all after it went out...he couldnt believe it..he had that what a joke look
Quote from: ice grillin you on June 02, 2008, 07:57:11 PM
Quote from: SunMo on June 02, 2008, 07:47:17 PM
i saw the replay of Chase's home run, that wasn't a cheapo, that's a legit part of the park
no way...that ball is in the gap in a lot of parks...arroyos face said it all after it went out...he couldnt believe it..he had that what a joke look
and you care about arroyo's facial expressions? every pitcher makes a face when they give up a hr, especially here. Put down the Eskin koolaid, we all know the park is flawed, but chase is god damn amazing this season
calm down pg
all im saying is i listened to the same show, and your flying off the handle about it now.
you do know that the park is like five years old right?......and youre the one flying off the handle...omg chasey is a sooo great dont you dare disaprage him...
the funny thing is i never once said anything about him and you came darting in to protect him
Quote from: SunMo on June 02, 2008, 07:44:13 PM
Victorino isn't a homegrown talent
You know, I always forget about that. He was a steal as a Rule 5 guy, though.
Quote from: ice grillin you on June 02, 2008, 08:19:26 PM
you do know that the park is like five years old right?......and youre the one flying off the handle...omg chasey is a sooo great dont you dare disaprage him...
the funny thing is i never once said anything about him and you came darting in to protect him
stay black
the dumb thing is that the Dodgers had every chance to take him back but didn't bother, he spent his first year in the minors
dodgers also drafted utley i believe
I just looked up his minor league numbers and noticed that he was Rule 5 drafted twice, first by the Padres in 2003 and then by the Phillies in 2004. I didn't realize that either.
when he was 18 they drafted him, but he went to ucla instead of signing
why did burrell run right to the ball...if he holds up its a run
Quote from: ice grillin you on June 02, 2008, 08:30:56 PM
why did burrell run right to the ball...if he holds up its a run
i think steve smith was waving him home from 2nd
Pat Burrel being the slowest man alive is biting the Phillies in the butt right now. 5-4
Durbin scares the crap out of me. icehole.
Quote from: ice grillin you on June 02, 2008, 08:35:37 PM
Quote from: MDS on June 02, 2008, 08:34:35 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on June 02, 2008, 08:26:39 PM
dodgers also drafted utley i believe
lol hater
huh?....youre losing it dooks
everyone knows he was drafted by the phils. how dare you take credit away from a great baseball man like ed wade.
he was drafted by the dodgers before the phillies...pump your brakes homie
Quote from: MDS on June 02, 2008, 07:52:56 PM
anyone know this broad?
(http://www.thefightins.com/wp-content/images_05_08/meechone/drunkgirlthrowup2.jpg)
here's a better angle...
(http://cache.deadspin.com/assets/images/deadspin/2008/06/drunkgirlthrowup.jpg)
wtf happened to her? Is that barf
She probably goes to Drexel.
way to ruin the old school uni bitch.
Quote from: ice grillin you on June 02, 2008, 09:04:57 PM
he was drafted by the dodgers before the phillies...pump your brakes homie
he was drafted by them but didnt sign, went to ucla then was drafted again by eddie wade. i assumed you meant he was drafted by them and traded to philly at some point. so who wins?
nice work with the google, todd
thanks, coach
god damn their bullpen has been fantastic
no jinx please
this team is so close to being a legit contender and favorite to win the NL...they need that one more pitcher
Quote from: ice grillin you on June 02, 2008, 09:30:12 PM
god damn their bullpen has been fantastic
no jinx please
:paranoid :paranoid :paranoid :paranoid :paranoid :paranoid :paranoid
per wheels "sick"
Chasey made an excellent diving stop to end the game.
M-V-P! M-V-P! ! M-V-P! ! !
that was not an excellent play...it was actually hilarious that he dove...he definitely didnt need to
shut your filthy gutter whore mouth.
i still love my chasey
he knew he didn't have to dive, you could tell by the look on his face
Sidney Crosby would have been been jealous of the gloriousness of that dive.
looks like the Phils will catch a break in a few weeks......David Ortiz is out a month
Marlins choke in extra innings, so the Phils have a 1.5 game lead. The Mets are down 6-0 with 1 out in the 1st .....ha
i'm going to put this picture on a t-shirt. no words, just the picture.
(http://beerleaguer.typepad.com/photos/uncategorized/2008/06/03/utley_2.gif)
do you molest eight year old boys?
no he bangs 13 year old girls
Close. I believe he has three-ways with 13 year old girls.
(http://img135.imageshack.us/img135/8559/utleyshirtpe0.png)(http://img265.imageshack.us/img265/4466/utleyshirt2es2.png)
i feel uncomfortable
a true brotha wouldnt be caught dead in that
Who would have thought that the only loss in this homestand would be King getting roughed up....
Eaton goes tonight against Harang. For the love of MDS, lets hope he can go at least 6 and give up less than 3.
http://hittrackeronline.com/detail.php?id=2008_1059&type=hitter
plot of all Chase's homeruns...including last nights...just about all legit, you can beef with maybe 1 or 2 of them
(http://hittrackeronline.com/parks/Utley_Chase_2008_scatter.jpg)
Nerd.
Those Utley shirts should be required wear for the Cincy roadie.
I thought we were all going to wear authentic Chad Johnson Eagles jerseys.
im getting cy eaton shirts made up
IN
Eaton gave up a run tonight...he sucks.
Standing O for Eaton as he leaves the field.
6 2/3, 1 run (Solo HR) on 3 hits. Excellent start for him again.
Howard at bat again with the bases loaded and one out and strikes out feebly.
Then Burrell gets rung up on a pitch that was six inches inside.
Whoever the umpire is behind home plate, he needs a lobotomy.
Lidge gives up 2 walks and a single but gets help from a DP....Phils win 3-2 :yay
Bring on the Eaton hate!
I won't say I've done a complete 180 on Eaton since opening day because I'm still waiting for him to implode, but the bottom line is that he's been far better than expected this year, and his last few starts have been quality work. He seems like he's pitching fairly well.....not pitching well for a #5, just flat out pitching well. Can't hate on him right now.
Big time props to Eaton for the way he's been throwing lately. He deserved the standing ovation tonight.
That Danny Herrera dude is the guy they got with Volquez for Hamilton. Talk about a good deal for both teams.
Myers has to be on his game tomorrow. Keep this streak going....
10 games above .500 and the Fish lose again.
Eaton was great. I didn't get taking him out and bringing Romero in for 1 batter (in a 3-1 game, nobody on, had struck out White Choke Dog twice)....but whatever. It doesn't matter.
Good to get a win when the offense couldn't do squat with RISP and with Gordon and Lidge not having their best stuff. Better than that, this was my first win at CBP in 2 years. Better than that, the douchebags in the top level tried to get the wave going and were denied. Worse than that, on a dollar dog night there were limited fights and ruckus in the upper level. Gotta do better than that, Philly.
Quote from: MDS on June 03, 2008, 11:16:00 PM
Eaton was great. I didn't get taking him out and bringing Romero in for 1 batter (in a 3-1 game, nobody on, had struck out White Choke Dog twice)
i didnt like that move either...thought it was overmanaging 101 but didnt mention it because chuckles has been uncharacteristically not awful this year
Romero had already warmed up before the inning started, and he had not pitched in a week.
If not for that Eaton would have finished the 7th.
care factor: negative 42
Well if you're going to analyze the move, you should know the reason behind it.
42 is the answer the the ultimate question of life, the universe, and everything.
Quote from: Wingspan on June 04, 2008, 09:08:11 AM
Well if you're going to analyze the move, you should know the reason behind it.
the point is there was no reason for him to come in there...btw not that warming up means you HAVE to come in the game but even if you buy that garbage can you tell me who had him up in the first place?
He brought Romero in because of the back-to-back lefties with Dunn and Votto. I don't think it was just because he was warming.....otherwise he could've pitched the 8th. And why are we complaining about leaving Eaton in the game longer? Get him out before he blows it...
eaton in longer = one batter
no one was on base i just felt like why mess with something going that good...had he just walked someone or given up a hit or even if it was less than two outs it would have made more sense....that said it wasnt some terrible error by chuckles and no one was really complaining to begin with...im only even discussing it now because of wings pathological need to defend all things charlie
FIRE MANUEL
Being 10 games over .500 while winning your division is pretty indefensible.
lets not start blowing him yet or in your case even more than you already have
his teams in cleveland were semi successful and they axed him because he was such a bad strategian
he hasnt been horrible this year is the best we can say about him...im happy if he doesnt lose any games for the team and by my count thats happened only once this year which is a huge improvement for chuckles
Quote from: FastFreddie on June 04, 2008, 09:48:14 AM
42 is the answer the the ultimate question of life, the universe, and everything.
It's also 21 x 2. OMGSEANTAYLORZ!
If there were 2 Sean Taylors, 1 would still be drawing 15-yarders for the skins! It would be like "The Prestige," only with a lot less intrigue.
The bullpen has made things pretty easy on Manuel. Romero, Gordon and Lidge are his clear top guys and they've been great this year. He clearly has a great pinch hitter in Dobbs. It's tough to find scenarios for him to farg up, like even when he over-manages they still win.
Myers with a _________________ through 6 :paranoid
no hitter
myers will probably do a 9 inning no hitter, and the phils lose in 10.
0-2, 2 outs.....RBI double...1-0 Reds :boom
down 1 in the 7th, why are you letting Myers hit here?
why is wheels slurping myers...yeah he had a good game but calm down the guy did have SIX walks
but he only had 1 hit....that's all that matters
unless he had 6 hits and 1 walk, then he only gave up 1 walk, that's why it was a great outing
no way should he be criticized and he had a very good game but at the same time no way should he be getting his penis licked when he has six walks couldnt get out of the 7th and very well may lose the game...wheels was acting like he threw a complete game no hitter as he was going out and then was still going on about his outing after the commerical
wow adam dunn
if they win this game they may be a team of destiny
if choke k's here or maybe even gets out hes gonna get booed hard
howard didn't get a strike in that at bat...he could've walked on 4 pitches
im now thinking hes as dumb as he is bad at hitting...how many times can you swing at the same farging pitch
great game if you like pitching
2-0 Reds.....neither team reached 4 hits
King wins tomorrow and they have an 8-2 homestand. Good times.
even if they lose today its still a good homestand but the real test and what will be a sign of how good this team really is will be the upcoming road trip and subsequent homestand
3 @ atlanta
3 @ florida - 2nd place
3 @ stl - 2nd place
3 vs bos - 1st place
3 vs laa - 1st place
winning seven of those would be good
Yeah, they have a killer 15 coming up.
King pitches today and I hope he can put whatever he doesnt like about pitching in day games behind him and come out and get it done.
Quote from: ice grillin you on June 05, 2008, 08:38:21 AM
even if they lose today its still a good homestand but the real test and what will be a sign of how good this team really is will be the upcoming road trip and subsequent homestand
3 @ atlanta
3 @ florida - 2nd place
3 @ stl - 2nd place
3 vs bos - 1st place
3 vs laa - 1st place
winning seven of those would be good
7 out of 15 is good?
they'll take 9/15 easy...
well i was gonna say .500 but its an odd number of games and with the majority on the road i went with seven instead of nine as being a 'good' number
lol @ nine "easy"...
could they win nine definitely
is it going to be easy
not even close
nine would be great
anything in double figures would be off the charts
probables
moyer - hudson
kendrick - reyes
eaton - campillo
myers - hendrickson
hamels - miller
moyer - olsen
kendrick - lohse :o
eaton - wellmeyer
myers - looper
hamels - lester
moyer - colon
kendrick - wakefield
eaton - santana
myers - saunders
hamels - weaver
yea out of the next 16 games id be very pleased with 8-8. id also be very pleased if chuckles starts sittin choke dog against lhp.
Quote from: ice grillin you on June 05, 2008, 09:37:10 AM
kendrick - lohse :o
Hackman and Caine in the same movie! I have my closing argument!
Griffey is in the lineup today.....Dunn is out
The MLB draft is today. The Phillies will take a player nobody's ever heard of...
Quote from: BigEd76 on June 05, 2008, 12:26:55 PM
Griffey is in the lineup today.....Dunn is out
The MLB draft is today. The Phillies will take a player nobody's ever heard of...
Yet I still feel compelled to watch. I love drafts...nothing compares to the NFL but any draft will do.
NFL Draft is the best draft out there. NBA Draft is pretty good as well, i really enjoy the NHL's, and MLB has a bunch of people i have no idea who they are.
5-0 CG shutout (3 hits)....done in 2 hours, 6 minutes
Griffey almost hit #600 in the 9th
Hail to the king, baby. (http://meltyourfaceoff.files.wordpress.com/2007/11/bruce-army-of-darkness.jpg)
Rollins left the game?
Charlie pulled him from the game because he popped a pitch to the shortstop and half-assed it to 1st. The SS dropped the ball, allowing a run to score, and Rollins was stuck at 1st instead of being on 2nd
Postgame, Charlie was pissed off...."Jimmy and I took care of that.....Done issue.....I don't have to talk about it, OK?......Not gonna talk about it....See ya....", then he walked off
waiting
(http://www.courant.com/media/photo/2008-06/39643805.jpg)
24. Philadelphia Phillies
The Pick: Anthony Hewitt, SS, Salisbury (CT) Salisbury School
The buzz: Hewitt was recently awarded his 5th star and moved to No. 12 in the RivalsHIGH 100 but is considered by many a high risk/high reward prospect. Could end up in the outfield for the Phillies.
A live bodied, athletic player with excellent tools nearly across the board. He plays shortstop at present, though most see him making the move to the outfield. He runs very well, and throws well enough to allow him to run his fastball into the low 90's. An early season injury forced him into designated hitter only duty, he is now healthy and playing the field and being seen more often.
Hitting Ability: Hewitt's swing has become much more efficient this spring, though he's still a little bit rigid in his approach.
Power: He has some big-time strength and projects to have good power in the future.
Running Speed: A power runner, he's got above-average speed.
Base running: He uses his speed well on the basepaths.
Arm Strength: He's got a strong arm, strong enough to play at short.
Fielding: Unlike his arm, the rest of his defensive game doesn't profile as a middle infielder. Most feel a move to center field makes sense.
Range: Due to his athleticsm, he'll make some plays, but he's not a natural shortstop.
Physical Description: Hewitt has a terrific athletic body and some big-time strength.
Medical Update: Healthy.
Strengths: Tools galore and perhaps as much upside as anyone in the Draft class.
Weaknesses: He's a little raw, and hasn't faced stiff competition in the Northeast.
Summary: As the spring wore on, few players had more helium than Hewitt, a toolsy high school shortstop. He can run and should hit for power down the road. A terrific athlete with a good arm, most feel a move to the outfield is likely so he can just go out and develop his considerable offensive tools. As a Northeast kid, he's a little raw, but has shown good improvement this spring. His name had been climbing up charts everywhere and the only thing that could hold him back is signability due to a commitment to Vanderbilt.
CROWN HEIGHTS' HEWITT READY FOR BASEBALL DRAFT
By DAN MARTIN
June 5, 2008 --
Anthony Hewitt didn't have typical plans after his high school graduation last Friday.
Instead of partying with classmates, the Salisbury (Conn.) School graduate hopped a flight to Milwaukee, where he had a workout with the Brewers.
The 6-foot-1, 195-pound shortstop was also recently in Philadelphia, hitting for the Phillies in front of Chase Utley.
"That's the kind of opportunity I went to Salisbury for," Hewitt said. "Although I didn't expect it to work out quite like this."
Though Hewitt developed his game at the elite private school, the 19-year-old grew up and actually learned the game at the famed Parade Grounds in Brooklyn, where he has hit some tape-measure home runs.
"I still play there every summer," said Hewitt, a Crown Heights native who could be selected in the first round of today's major league baseball amateur draft. "That helped me get to this point."
After three years at Salisbury, a boarding school located about 2½ hours outside of New York City, Hewitt has become one of the more intriguing prospects in this year's draft.
"He's still so raw, it's hard to tell what he's going to become," said Salisbury's first-year coach, Mark Leavitt. "But he has tools that you don't see very often. That's what makes him stand out."
Leavitt would know. Before coming to Salisbury, he was a scout in Florida for 11 years with the Expos and Mariners.
"Having someone like that around, who doesn't just know what scouts want, but actually was one, is a huge advantage," Hewitt said.
So is going to a school that cost $40,000 a year, especially when you're a kid from Brooklyn.
Bill Mitchell, who works at the Boys Club of New York, where Hewitt was a member - and where his father, Anthony, works - saw potential in the 12-year-old when he first started coaching him.
"We always try to place talented kids from the inner city in prep schools," Mitchell said. "Not many of them turn out like Anthony."
Hewitt played for three years at Salisbury and led the Crimson Knights to a 20-0 record. With Salisbury and his summer team, the Bonnies, he showed a great arm and power.
"The only thing he really needs to work on is his approach at the plate," one scout said. "But you see the potential he has and you don't worry much about that."
Hewitt has heard the criticism before, including from Leavitt and made strides in that area, along with others since leaving Brooklyn.
"I know there's good baseball in the city," said Hewitt, who thinks he would have wound up at Xaverian or LaSalle had he not left. "But I know I'm a better player and student because I got away from everything that can go on in the city."
Leaving probably aided Hewitt's academics more than anything else. If he doesn't get picked high enough, he will be on his way to Vanderbilt, where another New York City native, Pedro Alvarez, played. He is expected to be a top four pick today.
"I just want to see what happens," Hewitt said.
Chase gave the OK
Did I just see the word 'toolsy'?
Quote from: BigEd76 on June 05, 2008, 03:39:13 PM
Charlie pulled him from the game because he popped a pitch to the shortstop and half-assed it to 1st. The SS dropped the ball, allowing a run to score, and Rollins was stuck at 1st instead of being on 2nd
Postgame, Charlie was pissed off...."Jimmy and I took care of that.....Done issue.....I don't have to talk about it, OK?......Not gonna talk about it....See ya....", then he walked off
Quote"There is no explanation," Rollins said. "I just didn't do it, and sometimes, the manager gets you. I know better. I'll just go out there and make sure I don't do it again. He's the manager, and that's what he's supposed to do. He has two rules: One, be on time. Two, Hustle. I broke one of them."
Asked if he was upset with Manuel's discipline, Rollins said he wasn't. "It's like breaking the law and getting mad when the police show up," he said. "He's been here four years, and we've probably talked about it twice. Three strikes and you're out, I guess. I'm not going to be a distraction. This is the team. I did what I did. When you do something, you get caught, and it is what it is. Problems only occur when they keep reoccuring."
It's always nice to see a professional athlete act like a grown-up.
Farg the pro athlete schtick. I just like seeing a grown up acting like a grown up.
So I found out today that I CAN watch the Phillies on company time but that I probably shouldn't.
:paranoid
:-D
I also found out that if I get called away on a "national emergency" (meaning the feds pay for our time or, like Katrina or something) I get double and a half time plus expenses.
Go natural disasterz!
BTW: There was a massive brawl tonight in Daytona between the Lakeland Tigers players and the fans in the bar in right field. Not that any of you give a farging shtein but it was totally hilarious. I took photos with my phone but we all know how that turns out. Read about it in the papers or something. Romes.
Quote from: Sgt PSN on June 05, 2008, 08:11:57 PM
Farg the pro athlete schtick.
seriously...it so old and cliched....get over yourselves
welcome to concretefield.com
Gordon's son was drafted by the Dodgers, and Dykstra's son was drafted by the Brewers (to go with Cecil Fielder's kid and Tony Gwynn's kid)
stinks kid was a first rounder too
remember that kelly johnson drop, the baseball gods will even that one out at some point
Quote from: MDS on June 06, 2008, 10:35:35 PM
remember that kelly johnson drop, the baseball gods will even that one out at some point
Have you been around long, son? The baseball gods owe the Phillies about 7 million more of those for the past 125 years.
ive been around long enough to know that those things dont happen to the phillies unless there is something bad creepin around the corner
shut up
you talkin to me?
Holy crap! The Flyin' Hawaiian earns his keep tonight.
what a farging game
That was an unbelievable throw by Victorino
Holy farg!
And he was out for sure, the replays showed it. I thought they caught another break, but Vic gunned his ass.
Great farging game. :yay
Wow. Hacktorino gets a free handjob on the house
wearing my Victorino jersey to junior's football game later this morning! awesome!
Quote from: MDS on June 06, 2008, 11:16:20 PM
Wow. Hacktorino gets a free handjob on the house
Cholly?
Phils magic number: 98
And a thing about Lidge. There is a slight reason to be concerned (I am not bashing him here)...but I am not sure he has thrown 2 fastballs in the month of June. He's using his slider, almost 100% of the time. He's going to need to use his fast ball eventually, but there has to be a reason he just isn't throwing it right now.
Wing, I think you are off about his fastball usage. He has used it quite often.
No, he hasn't. (none is an exaguration...but i don't think he threw it more than once last night) he's using his slider as two pitches. He can place it for a strike, and then he throws it in the dirt to have them chase.
He barely ever throws the fastball, and I was wondering why.
I seem to recall him using it more often, but I will watch closer. Then again, even if he uses it once per hitter, thats okay because it usually is a strike and then he throws that bad ass slider.
i looked it up on mlb.com...and he is using it more than i thought(mostly early in innings). but its actually getting hit way more than his slider. could be that it's not getting the movement he'd like.
i agree, he is slider heavy...there is probably somewhere to look and find out how it breaks down, but i don't know where that is
Where the hell was Kalas last night? Tom McCarthy sucks.
The Braves are aggressive and jump all over fastballs so it made sense to use sliders against them. Unfortunately he left a few hittable ones over the plate. Oh yeah....they wouldn't have been in that intense situation at the plate if they held Blanco at 1st. I also didn't agree with allowing Anderson to move up uncontested. It's only a 2-run lead. Do that ish when you're at least 4 or 5 runs ahead...
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videos of last night (http://philadelphia.phillies.mlb.com/media/video.jsp?mid=200806062857141)
ha....check out the Coste play....someone shakes Cox's hand...
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Harry was at Kane's graduation
I was just about to post that the hitters dictate what the pitcher usually throws. That said, Lidge threw 13 pitches last night. Four were fast balls, three were splitters and the rest were all hard sliders. The slowest speed on any of them was 85 MPH and the fastest was 97 MPH. He struck out two guys, McCann & Norton and with Norton Lidge dazzled him with three straight off speed pitches.
The "hits" consisted of an opposite field humpback line and a bunt plus the line drive single up the middle from Escobar.
He actually pitched really well last night as he only threw one bad pitch (to Escobar) that didn't end up hurting him too badly anyway.
Someone...maybe Mitch Williams said he wasn't using his fastball as much on DNL the other day. He's consistently in the mid 90's with his fastball but his location has been suspect. His slider is his money pitch and I wouldn't mess with his pitch selection right now. He's been lights out all year.
That's just the thing - he's doing what he needs to do to get guys out and he's been pretty damn consistent in getting the job done. And it's not like his fast ball has been lollygagging it up there either. He's at 95-97 on the gun night after night. He uses the fast ball to set up the off speed pitches that are still coming in fairly hard, especially for off speed stuff.
I watched the 10th inning again, and honestly, he only threw maybe two or three pitches that weren't good and only one that was really sloppy.
And by the way - he was throwing 96 on a miserable humid night in Atlanta. If he can get it up to 96 there, then there's nothing wrong with his arm.
Someone could be throwing 110 and it doesn't matter if the fastball has no movement. (that's not a comment on lidge, it's a comment that thinking 97mph is some masterful achievement that should shake batters in their cleats.)
the sliders that got hit last night were ones he left up in the zone, he struck out guys on ones that were buried
he hasn't gotten as much work lately so he might not be as sharp as he could be, that will probably change with their upcoming schedule.
Whatever he has to throw to get outs, keep on doing it. He has been fantastic and Ed Wade has been robbed again. Its doubly awesome to see Lidge doing so great and knowing that little farger Wade gave him up.
McCarthy blows. He's a Mets fan and he gets excited when other teams do stuff.
Ed,
Any free broadcasts of the game tonight on line not subject to mlb.com? I cant see it because its on 57 and Peachtree, two stations not covered by digital cable EI.
Werth activated, Snelling sent out. If he rejects the demotion he will be a FA.
So Taguchi, still a Phillie.
What the hell is going on with the Phillies? They are on a goddamned tear.
You hate baseball
Yeah, but he likes winners and finds Chase Utley breathtakingly dreamy.
Gordon and Lidge last night: 2 IP, 6 K's.
Quote from: FastFreddie on June 08, 2008, 06:26:55 AM
Yeah, but he likes winners and finds Chase Utley breathtakingly dreamy.
Gordon and Lidge last night: 2 IP, 6 K's.
Lidge threw mostly fastballs last night. The first two batters I counted 1 offspeed pitch and he was consistently dealing at 96 or 97 mph.
Today's game is on TBS at 1:30 est.
30-16 since starting 8-10
Charlie got his 300th NL win last night. No team in the NL has won 300 since Charlie has taken over the Phillies
Eaton's going today and again I hope for at least 6 out of him.
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on June 08, 2008, 11:05:11 AM
Charlie got his 300th NL win last night. No team in the NL has won 300 since Charlie has taken over the Phillies
Really? I know he's been relatively successful since coming in but it's hard to believe that no other team in the NL has won 300 games during the same period where the Phillies have only 1 playoff appearance.
Maybe that's just inconsistancy in the NL over the last few years though.
The other teams at the top of the list had a season around .500 or below it, while the Phils won 88, 85 and 89 games the last 3 years and have 38 already this year...
Phillies = 300-250
Mets = 298-249
Cardinals = 298-251
Padres = 286-265
Braves = 285-264
Diamondbacks = 277-271
Astros = 276-273
Dodgers = 271-277
Brewers = 271-277
Cubs = 269-280
Marlins = 265-282
Rockies = 257-291
Reds = 255-294
Nationals = 250-299
Giants = 249-298
Pirates = 231-317
I thought it said NL East at first.....didn't realize it was the whole NL
Larry is out for at least 2 games with a quad injury
If you're referring to Chipper Jones, stop being fruity.
If a man wants to be known as Muhammed Ali, we should respect his wishes, and call him Muhammed Ali!
Muhammed > Chipper
After Rollins popped up to start the game......
Victorino Single
Utley Single
Howard Double (Victorino scores)
Burrell Int Walk (bases loaded)
Jenkins sharp hit down 1st baseline, out at first (Utley scored)
Dobbs fly to center.
Took Campillo 28 pitches to get out of the inning. Good at bats and good contact by everyone except Jimmy who tried to hit one out. Jenkins got robbed by Tiexeira.
and the braves get it right back
Eaton comes out and gets 2 quick outs and then gives up a double to Escobar and a HR to Tiexeira. :boom
Quote from: Sgt PSN on June 08, 2008, 01:54:21 PM
Took Campillo 28 pitches to get out of the inning.
So Coste leads off the inning by swinging at the first pitch and hits a lazy fly to left. Phils go down in order and it took less than 10 pitches to do so.
Awesome.
chokedog has 3 doubles and 4 rbi today. big hit in the top of the 9th to give the phils some breathing room.
(http://www.mylittleworld.co.uk/acatalog/Dustpan_and_broom.jpg)
6-3 final. Lidge has an easy 9th. Eaton pitched innings and got a nd.....he was ok today. Good enough to keep the Braves from getting a lead but bad enough to not be able to protect 2 seperate leads.
Braves fall to 6.5 games out. Mets can tie them for 3rd with a win in San Diego. Florida stays 3.5 back but has to face Volquez tomorrow night...
This team is head and shoulders better than last years team. Top to bottom they are just all around improved.
They are methodically beating teams rather than pushing though with emotion.
About as good as you can hope for from Eaton. He is frustrating to watch though. His control was off and he always seems to give up hits to pitchers.
Good to see Howard doin his thing today.
Mr Rollins is slumping and needs to get it going. The fact that this team is doing what they are doing without Howards bat for most of the year, without Rollins hitting well due to slump and injury is pretty good. Just goes to show; its all about the pitching and timely hitting. I was shocked to see the Phils are leading the league in average with RISP. Thats a foreign place for them to be.
Another solid effort from Eaton. Kept them in the game and gave them a chance to win. He farging sucks, right.
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on June 08, 2008, 04:54:20 PM
I was shocked to see the Phils are leading the league in average with RISP. Thats a foreign place for them to be.
Along with the bullpen leading the league in ERA and the Phillies flat out leading the division.
After the first and beginning of the second inning, I thought Eaton didn't have a prayer of lasting five innings. He fought through it and made it. Again, about what can be expected from the 5th starter.
This team is playing like they don't call Philly home.
is this team for real?
And this is Jimmy having missed significant time already and not hitting like he's capable of and Howard being feast or famine. If these two guys start hitting, this team (even if the pitching remained as it's been so far) would be damn hard to beat.
this team is too good to be true
Other than the fact that Eaton could use a face full of AIDS, today was an excellent win for this team. Sweeping a team that was far and away the best home team in the Majors is a great accomplishment. Of course, I fully expect them to get swept the next two series, but still, awesome effort today, especially Shaney.
what did eaton do today?
romey il be down in palm coast in a few weeks.....oyster house for one of the mets phils game?
Quote from: ice grillin you on June 08, 2008, 08:05:29 PM
what did eaton do today?
romey il be down in palm coast in a few weeks.....oyster house for one of the mets phils game?
The worst thing he did was give up a double to Whiner Escobar and a bomb to Mark Teixeira in the first AFTER getting the first two batters.
After that, he fought his way through the sixth, giving up just one more run, though he was in trouble just about every inning.
Romey, you hitting one of the Marlins games? I'm thinking about hitting one of them.
leave my romey alone
Quote from: ice grillin you on June 08, 2008, 08:05:29 PM
what did eaton do today?
romey il be down in palm coast in a few weeks.....oyster house for one of the mets phils game?
In.
And Eaton - he didn't actually pitch bad at all. I'm just drunk and irascible. And he annoyed me because he was up 2-0 after one then the Phils went to 3-2 and he gave up a third run to the Braves to make it 3-3.
BTW: Texeira made a spectacular friggen catch in the first that saved at least two runs. The he came up to bat in the bottom of the first and ripped a two run dinger. He's amazing.
dont have another
Quote from: Rome on June 08, 2008, 08:27:45 PM
BTW: Texeira made a spectacular friggen catch in the first that saved at least two runs. The he came up to bat in the bottom of the first and ripped a two run dinger. He's amazing.
And a FA after this season. :paranoid
Quote from: ice grillin you on June 08, 2008, 08:35:43 PM
dont have another
Agreed. The next step is talk of his rippling muscles gyrating and glistening in Romey's favorite fantasy.
Quote from: Geowhizzer on June 08, 2008, 08:36:36 PM
Quote from: Rome on June 08, 2008, 08:27:45 PM
BTW: Texeira made a spectacular friggen catch in the first that saved at least two runs. The he came up to bat in the bottom of the first and ripped a two run dinger. He's amazing.
And a FA after this season. :paranoid
I heard the commentators talking about that today. I love me some Howard but I would take Tiexeira in a heartbeat. The Phils could probably get good return on Howard if they traded him to the AL.
Of couse, there's almost no way Monty and his boys ante up the cash to sign him.
Quote from: Sgt PSN on June 08, 2008, 09:10:39 PM
I love me some Howard but I would take Tiexeira in a heartbeat. The Phils could probably get good return on Howard if they traded him to the AL.
(http://www.philaflava.com/forum/images/smiles/dcracistemo0mp.gif)
Good point. The Phils should sign Tiexeira and lynch Howard.
Everyone thinks Teixeira will end up with the Mets or Yankees
BTW despite blowing 2 leads and getting his ass out of a few bases loaded jams, Eaton still qualified for a quality start......his 4th in a row :paranoid
(http://bp3.blogger.com/_FwhqChzfKxE/R_6eVVRSMwI/AAAAAAAAAlU/Q4yetz4yiuY/s400/HellFrozenOver.jpg)
And, as expected, Hell has frozen over.
19 years ago today:
"If the Pirates lose this game, I'll walk home." (http://www.baseball-reference.com/boxes/PHI/PHI198906080.shtml)
Steve Jeltz had 5 home runs in his entire career. 2 of them came in that game.
Quote from: Sgt PSN on June 08, 2008, 11:07:55 PM
Steve Jeltz had 5 home runs in his entire career. 2 of them came in that game.
And from different sides of the plate. (http://www.baseball-almanac.com/feats/feats20.shtml)
I don't see his name on that list.
scroll down to the NL one :)
Amazing. :-D
phils are the only team in baseball to only use 5 starters so far this season.
It is thus guaranteed that they will have to use a 6th in the near future, jinxer.
Phillies are 4 games up in the division going into the Marlins series.
Quote from: QB Eagles on June 10, 2008, 06:27:08 AM
Phillies are 4 games up in the division going into the Marlins series.
Yep. They're on such a roll right now that they managed to pick up a half game yesterday without playing.
Prepare for a major slide.
Quote from: Sgt PSN on June 10, 2008, 06:50:11 AM
Yep. They're on such a roll right now that they managed to pick up a half game yesterday without playing.
has any team ever done that?
I just checked, and it's never happened in the history of the major leagues.
thats a long time
Quote from: ice grillin you on June 10, 2008, 07:37:30 AM
Quote from: Sgt PSN on June 10, 2008, 06:50:11 AM
Yep. They're on such a roll right now that they managed to pick up a half game yesterday without playing.
has any team ever done that?
Are you being serious?
I thought we were always serious. This (http://theinternets) is serious business, after all.
Quote from: Sgt PSN on June 10, 2008, 10:51:43 AM
Quote from: ice grillin you on June 10, 2008, 07:37:30 AM
Quote from: Sgt PSN on June 10, 2008, 06:50:11 AM
Yep. They're on such a roll right now that they managed to pick up a half game yesterday without playing.
has any team ever done that?
Are you being serious?
well since 14 teams picked up a half game last night without playing id say not serious
It's so hard to tell with you.
Idiot.
so they just play half games now? weird.
They are going back to Little League rules
Quote from: QB Eagles on June 08, 2008, 11:25:55 PM
Quote from: Sgt PSN on June 08, 2008, 11:07:55 PM
Steve Jeltz had 5 home runs in his entire career. 2 of them came in that game.
And from different sides of the plate. (http://www.baseball-almanac.com/feats/feats20.shtml)
so i read this list yesterday morning and was pretty surprised that nick swisher is on the list so much. then he did it again last night. weird.
lol @ wes helms:
Quote"They're hitting right now, and their pitching has stepped up the past few games. I wouldn't say they're the cream of the [NL East] crop. I think we can play with them any day of the week. We just hit a little spell here that took us three games behind them."
Quote from: SunMo on June 10, 2008, 04:57:50 PM
lol @ wes helms:
Quote"They're hitting right now, and their pitching has stepped up the past few games. I wouldn't say they're the cream of the [NL East] crop. I think we can play with them any day of the week. We just hit a little spell here that took us three games behind them."
Helmsly!
Myers comes right out and gives up two MONSTER homers to Ramirez and Cantu. I'm not sure what the deal is with him, is he thinking he'll just come in and blow guys out of the batter's box? He was definately challenging Ramirez (who is farging white hot), maybe not so much with Cantu, but he is hanging the ball out there like he is daring these guys to hit it out. farging frustrating.
Did I mention I hate Meyers? J Roll gets the Phils back in it and 1/2 inning later ................. 5-2 fish.
shtein! hope all 8,000 fans at Dolphin Stadium enjoyed the game.
Myers is a piece of trash.
What is Myers' deal? He's not this farging bad. I don't know if he hurt his thowing arm punching his old lady or what, but he needs to get his ish together real farging quick because it's a farging disgrace when you are easily the weak link on a pitching staff that has a 2nd year player in Kendrick, a 45 yr old Moyer and Adam Eaton.
people either completely overrate myers or have a bad case of revisionist history...the guy was never a very good pitcher....he had a couple nice years when he won 11 and 13 games i think...hes always been a #3 type guy with the hope hed one day be a solid #2...true hes having his worst year of his career thus far but is it really that big of a suprise...its not like hes had some dontrelle willis type of fall off...
he is what he is...a mental midget wife beating pitcher that has decent stuff
btw albert pujols came up lame last night
adam wainwright just went on the dl
todd wellmeyer has a hurt elbow (but supposedly will start sat against the phils)
myers is pitching about the same as adam eaton did last year. i was never buying "he's an ace" spin the phils were putting out, but surely hes gotta be better than this.
guaranteed king pitches an absolute gem tonight wanting to prove a point to the marlins after getting battered by them couple weeks ago....not to mention the fact that the marlins are currently the phils chief competition in the division
i think hes gonna be breathing fire tonight....ill be extremely disappointed if he isnt
4-1 phils tonight
Quote from: MDS on June 11, 2008, 11:25:24 AM
i was never buying "he's an ace" spin the phils were putting out, but surely hes gotta be better than this.
That's what I was getting at. Myers is/should be a solid third starter and he's clearly not pitching like one.
Quote from: Sgt PSN on June 10, 2008, 11:05:45 PM
What is Myers' deal? He's not this farging bad. I don't know if he hurt his thowing arm punching his old lady or what, but he needs to get his ish together real farging quick because it's a farging disgrace when you are easily the weak link on a pitching staff that has a 2nd year player in Kendrick, a 45 yr old Moyer and Adam Eaton.
With that I have visions of this:
(http://www.bbspot.com/Images/News_Features/2008/06/falling.jpg)
I never had any thought than Myers was going to be dominant this year, but I did expect him to be about average. I really think he's got it in his head that he can just overpower hitters and rack up the K's. I remember though when he closed, his 12-6 curve was money when he was closing, I haven't seen it once look like last year yet that I can think of.
Quote from: ice grillin you on June 11, 2008, 08:11:31 AM
btw albert pujols came up lame last night
Cha-ching! Pujols OUT for 3 weeks (http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=3438156)
Nice of the offense to show up.
marlins offense didnt either...in the end miller got it done and cole didnt...five homers in his last two games against florida isnt gonna get it done...
that being said if phils make the playoffs their offense has to be a concern when it goes against good pitching just about every night
Jesus Christ. Carlos Ruiz sucks my farging balls. Has he grounded into a double play at every at bat tonight? Hack.
he really is horrendous and shouldnt be in the majors
terrible baserunning by jimmy there
loaded up. 2 out....................and we pray, and pray and pray and pray
jayson werth should be shot
what in the farg was that? bunt? good god.
Quote from: SunMo on June 11, 2008, 09:27:19 PM
jayson werth should be shot
i want to shoot myself after that.
a bunt with 2 outs and bases loaded :paranoid
oh Flash.
Quote from: ice grillin you on June 11, 2008, 09:18:37 PM
terrible baserunning by jimmy there
yea that was brutal. they could be up 3-2, who knows. now flash will perform the usual high wire act.
hermida's bunting skills = werth's bunting skills
walk wes helms on 4 pitches?
they need to move madson into gordons spot
Quote from: Don Ho on June 11, 2008, 09:39:20 PM
walk wes helms on 4 pitches?
I don't think Helms took four pitches all last season.
flash! yea!
farg :-D
f***ing christ I hate the Marlins
i give him credit for throwing it right down the middle and getting beat.....way to many pitchers walk in the winning run in that situation....but he just doesnt have it anymore and needs to be demoted
meyers, werth, gordon can kiss my ass.
for a walk off grand slam that was the quietest reaction i've ever heard. must have been all the phillies fans in the crowd.
Quote from: Don Ho on June 11, 2008, 09:44:10 PM
meyers, werth, gordon can kiss my ass.
for a walk off grand slam that was the quietest reaction i've ever heard. must have been all the phillies fans in the crowd.
Marlins announcer Tommy Hutton even said that it sounded like there were more Phillies fans in the stands than Marlin fans.
I almost went tonight - probably a good thing I didn't. I'd hate to have to spend the night in jail after bitch-slapping some idiot fake-Marlins fan.
truth be told gordon hasnt been that bad this year. outside of 2 outings (opening day and tonight), i dont think hes blown a lead. he just jose mesas his way through innings and it gets irritating.
but charlies idiotic managing, jimmy not taking second and werths bunt also need to be factored in. also the offense mustering 2 runs. oh well, win tomorrow and they dont get swept. out of the 16 tough games (8-8 would be fine, in fact, if they play .500 ball from here on out they probably make the playoffs). theyve already won 4, so really lets all hold off jumping off the franklin just yet.
Quote from: MDS on June 11, 2008, 09:47:28 PM
truth be told gordon hasnt been that bad this year. outside of 2 outings (opening day and tonight), i dont think hes blown a lead. he just jose mesas his way through innings and it gets irritating.
but charlies idiotic managing, jimmy not taking second and werths bunt also need to be factored in. also the offense mustering 2 runs. oh well, win tomorrow and they dont get swept. out of the 16 tough games theyve already won 4, so really lets all hold off jumping off the franklin just yet.
It's up to the old man!
save me a place in line on the bridge. hell, i'll just go jump off diamond head.
Goddamn what an abortion of a game.
1. Offense, where did you go? Andrew Miller and Ricky Nolasco have shut your asses down.
2. Jayson Werth bunting? Die. Die. Die.
3. Charlie not bunting Victorino, or Victorino missing signs, or whatever that was....pull your head outta your asses. Although Vic did get rung up on a bullshtein call.
4. Jimmy not following Bruntlett on the steal, dumb.
5. Ryan Howard is pitiful to watch now. Even though Jimmy should have stolen 2nd, I was afraid they would walk Utley to face Howard and he would blow it. Its sad when you are AFRAID to see Howard come up.
6. Gordon hasn't been horrible. But he's a right-handed black version of Mitch Williams. ENough with the drama. Throw farging strikes, icehole.
7. I hate the Marlins. Jorge Cantu and the rest of those stiffs are whipping the Phils asses.
8. King was dealing tonight but that mexican got him twice.
Quote3. Charlie not bunting Victorino, or Victorino missing signs, or whatever that was....pull your head outta your asses. Although Vic did get rung up on a bullshtein call.
He took a strike, which was the smart thing since Gregg just walked Jimmy on 4 pitches. Then on the next pitch Bruntlett stole 3rd on his own. At that point, the bunt is off. And the third strike was close enough, too close to take.
Was this game closed to the public? I saw the footage of Uggla's home run, and I don't think there was 1 person in the outfield seats.
to be fair its a football stadium and unless its the world series there are not gonna be many people in the outfield seats...still there was no one there and the team should be contracted....instead they are getting a new retractable roof stadium
no one will go even with that. they built that new stadium in dc and no one goes. mostly because the team sucks and dc is an awful sports town. but miami is an even worse sports town, theyll only go if its the playoffs.
Florida just sucks for baseball. Either you watch a hot, muggy game in a football stadium, or you leave the subtropical weather to watch a game in an ugly, dingy dome that, from the inside, looks like you could be in Siberia. There's better shtein to do down there.
I could have gone to any of these games, but driving 100 miles in torrential downpours across the alligator-infested swamplands by myself just didn't sound like enough fun to me. And, judging from the first two games, I made the right decision. Just watch the games in beautiful HD and hide the remotes.
howard = :boom
i will give choke some credit there for not swinging at that wild pitch...its normally one he goes down on...he didnt this time and it got them two runs...hey it aint much to congratulate someone on but its the first thing i thought of when the play went down
moyer is amazing....souderton raise up
Phils win 3-0 and gain a game on everyone else in the division :yay
8IP, 0 runs for Moyer. Amazing job by grandpa. I wonder if Howard knocks in a couple extra runs if Cholly sends him back out in the 9th.
Quote from: ice grillin you on June 12, 2008, 09:58:32 PM
moyer is amazing....souderton raise up
He was something tonight. He throws stuff up there that looks like I could hit it, and yet the Marlins couldn't touch him tonight.
Big effort. The Phils needed this one to salvage a win in Florida.
Now I wish I had gone tonight. Driving would have been a bitch, though.
Quote from: ice grillin you on June 12, 2008, 09:58:32 PM
moyer is amazing....souderton raise up
we're rioting in the streets, cleetus even let the women folk come out to see what in tarnation is goin on
Quote from: ice grillin you on June 12, 2008, 09:09:21 PM
i will give choke some credit there for not swinging at that wild pitch...its normally one he goes down on...he didnt this time and it got them two runs...hey it aint much to congratulate someone on but its the first thing i thought of when the play went down
Howard should get 2 RBI's. The way I looked at it Olsen intentionally threw the ball that far outside figuring he had a good shot at getting Howard to swing. Any normal hitter and that ball is outside but not by that ridiculous amount.
Moyer was awesome tonight. Howard continues to be brutal.
Have they been swept this year?
I dont think so.
Gramps was dealing tonight. He owns the Marlins. I hate Scott Olsen's bitchass.
Hopefully the bats wake up on the flight to STL. No reason to not beat down the Cards. Maybe Howard going there will help him show some life. Half way through June, no HRs and still hovering at .200ish.
Need to get Rollins out of his funk, too. That may be hurting the team more than Howard right now.
Demon came through in the clutch for me and was able to hook me up with some tickets for Sunday's game in St Louis for less than face value. :yay
I've been to games at the old Busch Stadium. Looking forward to seeing the new one.
Quote from: SunMo on June 12, 2008, 10:28:48 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on June 12, 2008, 09:58:32 PM
moyer is amazing....souderton raise up
we're rioting in the streets, cleetus even let the women folk come out to see what in tarnation is goin on
Yee farging Haw!
Quote from: MDS on June 12, 2008, 11:36:46 PM
Have they been swept this year?
i dont believe they have even lost three in a row yet
Quote from: Geowhizzer on June 13, 2008, 12:34:08 AM
Need to get Rollins out of his funk, too. That may be hurting the team more than Howard right now.
jimmy is back to his couple years ago mode where he swings at a stupid amount of first pitches...he also is trying to hit 30 homers again
Yep, he's got that maddening uppercut going again.
Lohse goes against Kendrick tonight, interesting.
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on June 13, 2008, 09:06:26 AM
Lohse goes against Kendrick tonight, interesting.
On Friday the 13th. How special.
Wellemeyer
Lohse goes tomorrow
Booooooooooooo
Quote from: BigEd76 on June 13, 2008, 10:41:08 AM
Wellemeyer
Lohse goes tomorrow
hopefully the phils can salvage the series sunday
the cardinals are complete shtein with pujols. bring out the brooms, kiddies.
Quote from: MDS on June 13, 2008, 11:20:58 AM
the cardinals are complete shtein with pujols.
FTL
24 hrs ago the cardinals had more wins than the phillies
Quote from: ice grillin you on June 13, 2008, 12:49:40 PM
24 hrs ago the cardinals had more wins than the phillies
Now the records are identical, including the home/away splits.
You queers need to butch it up a lot in this motherfarger.
Quote from: FastFreddie on June 13, 2008, 01:42:25 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on June 13, 2008, 12:49:40 PM
24 hrs ago the cardinals had more wins than the phillies
Now the records are identical, including the home/away splits.
but have they gained a half game when the didnt play, thats the real test
Quote from: Seabiscuit36 on June 13, 2008, 02:53:02 PM
Quote from: FastFreddie on June 13, 2008, 01:42:25 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on June 13, 2008, 12:49:40 PM
24 hrs ago the cardinals had more wins than the phillies
Now the records are identical, including the home/away splits.
but have they gained a half game when the didnt play, thats the real test
no chance that happens twice in one week
i'd be shocked
Utley/Howard/Burrell went back-to-back-to-back in the 1st :yay
14-1 holy crap
im surprised they sent burrell on that last run...i would expect him to get plugged next at bat
Holy shtein, that was a bomb by Howard. :o
17-1
17-1 and there hasnt been one single boo....the funniest was when it was 13-1 and the cards doubled and the crowd went nuts...just like heaven
Quote from: ice grillin you on June 13, 2008, 10:26:11 PM
17-1 and there hasnt been one single boo....the funniest was when it was 13-1 and the cards doubled and the crowd went nuts...just like heaven
17 -1 and they give Toguchi a standing ovation. pretty cool.
As awesome as this is, I'm almost certainly going to see them get shut out on Sunday.
Quote from: ice grillin you on June 13, 2008, 10:26:11 PM
17-1 and there hasnt been one single boo....the funniest was when it was 13-1 and the cards doubled and the crowd went nuts...just like heaven
Villone did get a bronx cheer when he finally got the last out in the 4th - I believe there was another when he threw strike one to Utley.
Quote from: Sgt PSN on June 13, 2008, 10:32:06 PM
As awesome as this is, I'm almost certainly going to see them get shut out on Sunday.
Do you forget this stretch?
Sun, May 25 @ Houston W 15-6 28-24 Seanez (3-3) Nieve (0-1)
Mon, May 26 Colorado W 20-5 29-24 Moyer (5-3) De La Rosa (1-3)
Tue, May 27 Colorado W 7-4 30-24 Kendrick (4-2) Jimenez (1-5)
Wed, May 28 Colorado W 6-1 31-24 Eaton (1-3) Reynolds (0-2)
Fri, May 30 Florida W 12-3 32-24 Myers (3-6) Hendrickson (7-3)
Quote from: Sgt PSN on June 13, 2008, 10:32:06 PM
As awesome as this is, I'm almost certainly going to see them get shut out on Sunday.
lohse pitches tomorrow
Quote from: PhillyGirl on June 13, 2008, 10:34:33 PM
Quote from: Sgt PSN on June 13, 2008, 10:32:06 PM
As awesome as this is, I'm almost certainly going to see them get shut out on Sunday.
Do you forget this stretch?
Sun, May 25 @ Houston W 15-6 28-24 Seanez (3-3) Nieve (0-1)
Mon, May 26 Colorado W 20-5 29-24 Moyer (5-3) De La Rosa (1-3)
Tue, May 27 Colorado W 7-4 30-24 Kendrick (4-2) Jimenez (1-5)
Wed, May 28 Colorado W 6-1 31-24 Eaton (1-3) Reynolds (0-2)
Fri, May 30 Florida W 12-3 32-24 Myers (3-6) Hendrickson (7-3)
I think you made all that up. Eaton and Myers winning back-to-back games? ha!
Quote from: ice grillin you on June 13, 2008, 10:35:40 PM
Quote from: Sgt PSN on June 13, 2008, 10:32:06 PM
As awesome as this is, I'm almost certainly going to see them get shut out on Sunday.
lohse pitches tomorrow
That's comforting to know. What's the probable pitching matchup for Sunday?
wife beater and boggs
btw id be ok with this stadium exploding even if all the phillies got hurt
I'd be seeing King pitch if Cholly hadn't thought that Myers was the ace of this staff. Looking back at it, he could have made Eaton the #1 starter and looked smarter for doing so.
Quote from: Sgt PSN on June 13, 2008, 10:42:59 PM
I'd be seeing King pitch if Cholly hadn't thought that Myers was the ace of this staff. Looking back at it, he could have made Eaton the #1 starter and looked smarter for doing so.
I hope you choked on that last sentence.
Quote from: Sgt PSN on June 13, 2008, 10:42:59 PM
I'd be seeing King pitch if Cholly hadn't thought that Myers was the ace of this staff. Looking back at it, he could have made Eaton the #1 starter and looked smarter for doing so.
im sure if you pm him wing can somehow defend it and make you feel better
Quote from: Sgt PSN on June 13, 2008, 10:42:59 PM
I'd be seeing King pitch if Cholly hadn't thought that Myers was the ace of this staff. Looking back at it, he could have made Eaton the #1 starter and looked smarter for doing so.
I think that was more of a "reward" for Myers being put back in the rotation, and to try to stroke his ego a bit to get him on the right trace.
Obviously, it didn't work.
Quote from: PhillyGirl on June 13, 2008, 10:45:38 PM
Quote from: Sgt PSN on June 13, 2008, 10:42:59 PM
I'd be seeing King pitch if Cholly hadn't thought that Myers was the ace of this staff. Looking back at it, he could have made Eaton the #1 starter and looked smarter for doing so.
I hope you choked on that last sentence.
You'll be happy to know that all is clear.
cards fans are essentially like little league parents. its really pathetic, sad, creepy...all those things.
Springer thrown out for throwing at Howard, LaRussa thrown out for arguing about it.
Weak move by the umps- hit Howard in the thigh.
what a terrible ejection
lol @ tim mccllelan...not cause he tossed the pitcher but because he looks like a titanic dork
lol for real @ ryan franklin
franklin is their closer. la russa is just such a terrible strategical manager, it was such dumb luck that this team won the series 3 years ago.
where did that ejection come from? stupid move. great, now piss the cards off for the weekend (not that being down by 15 runs didn't).
Quote from: MDS on June 13, 2008, 11:08:41 PM
la russa is just such a terrible strategical manager, it was such dumb luck that this team won the series 3 years ago.
WOW maybe the worst post ever....20 posts ago you said how much of a joke the cards are...and now larussa is a terrible manager....you ever wonder why they are as good as they are...hint: his initials are TL....one of the top five managers ever...shtein maybe higher
Quote from: ice grillin you on June 13, 2008, 11:07:12 PM
what a terrible ejection
lol @ tim mccllelan...not cause he tossed the pitcher but because he looks like a titanic dork
lol for real @ ryan franklin
McClellan didn't eject either one. The home plate ump ejected the pitcher and LaRussa.
Quote from: Don Ho on June 13, 2008, 11:09:06 PM
where did that ejection come from? stupid move. great, now piss the cards off for the weekend (not that being down by 15 runs didn't).
Thought he threw at Howard intentionally. Probably did, but he hit Howard in the upper leg - the big guy probably didn't even feel it.
Jenkins and Ruiz make it 20-2.
still no boos
Quote from: ice grillin you on June 13, 2008, 11:11:26 PM
Quote from: MDS on June 13, 2008, 11:08:41 PM
la russa is just such a terrible strategical manager, it was such dumb luck that this team won the series 3 years ago.
WOW maybe the worst post ever....20 posts ago you said how much of a joke the cards are...and now larussa is a terrible manager....you ever wonder why they are as good as they are...hint: his initials are TL....one of the top five managers ever...shtein maybe higher
strategical, dooks. he is. he won in the al where is no strategy. he certainly always has good teams for a reason, but he is just awful in decision making in the game. hitting the pitcher 8th, squeezing all the damn time, he's just a cocky jerk who thinks he invented the game.
first of all were you even born when he won in the AL?....second of all you have no idea what youyre saying and you spouted off before thinking...the guy is a legend a first ballot hall of famer and a phenomional manager that not only has won with great teams but also with average teams...hes simply the best of his era and one of the best ever
Seanez throws behind Ryan's back, Jose Oquendo gets thrown out arguing that he should be ejected. :-D
Sarge could see a VERY interesting game by Sunday. LaRussa doesn't let these things go.
Another ridiculous beat-down from the Phillies against a good baseball team.
And the knock down attempt on Howard was hilarious. Not as funny as Seanez missing the Cardinal, but still, pretty farging funny.
And 2B Aaron Miles comes in and sets the Phils' top of the lineup (sans Utley) in order. :-D
Someone needs to tell the hayseed announcers for the Cardinals that they're losing 20-2.
these cards announcers are out of control...literally screaming because miles is getting people out....like the phils are gonna hit up 20 against a position player pitching....middle america sucks
Quote from: Rome on June 13, 2008, 11:35:16 PM
Someone needs to tell the hayseed announcers for the Cardinals that they're losing 20-2.
You're not getting the Phils' feed tonight? I have it on EI (DirecTV channel 739) for the first time in awhile.
Embarrassing. Their team is getting shellacked and they're giggling like flags over a positional player doing mop-up duty on the mound.
Good God.
Quote from: ice grillin you on June 13, 2008, 11:24:16 PM
first of all were you even born when he won in the AL?....second of all you have no idea what youyre saying and you spouted off before thinking...the guy is a legend a first ballot hall of famer and a phenomional manager that not only has won with great teams but also with average teams...hes simply the best of his era and one of the best ever
i was alive but like 2 or 3, so no. and la russa strategy's are awful. but it shows you how little that matters because teams can despite incompetent managing. the phillies did this, but always feel a little short. the cardinals had the talent to put them over the top and la russa doing stupid things in games didnt matter.
i love you like a son, michael, always remember that.
right back atcha dad
aaron miles with the player of the game award
they wont stop
among the quotes
"incredible performance"
"the best relief appearance weve seen this year"
"SEVEN strikes and ONLY three balls"
Quote from: MDS on June 13, 2008, 11:43:11 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on June 13, 2008, 11:39:49 PM
right back atcha dad
this brings a tear to my eye
cant wait till we are flippin burgers together on sunday
The Cards announcers were trying to lighten it up. I actually thought they were an ok team to listen to, compared to some of the slop we hear on opposing broadcasts and when McCarthy and Wheels are in the phils booth.
Their fans are indeed like little league parents, great analogy.
And I agree with MDS about LaRussa too. I think he's overrated and that he does think like he invented the game.
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on June 14, 2008, 12:09:15 AM
And I agree with MDS about LaRussa too. I think he's overrated and that he does think like he invented the game.
actually you arent like mds...he thinks he actually not a great manager....where as you just dont like him because of his attitude...he cocky cause hes that good...just like a belicheck or an athlete like mj or deion or any of the greats...if you arent cocky you probably arent that good to begin with...trying to downplay larussa reminds me of the phil jackson haters
btw how sickening does the gavin floyd trade get by the hour
You're right, I don't like him because of his attitude. But I like the cocky attitude on most people. Not so much when they flaunt it all the time, but when they show it here and there and at the right times. Not sure if I explained it well or not.
Gavin Floyd = Brad Lidge in the sense that both needed changes. If Floyd was still here he wouldn't be doing what he is doing now, I think.
BTW; I think Howard was intentionally hit. He pimped it a little too much on his shot that made it 17. Springer comes in and hits him in the thigh. That is where he should hit him though. Put it on the leg and not up and in or on the hands where a guy can get hurt.
QuoteThe NL East leaders are 10-1 in Kendrick's last 11 starts.
Ladies and gentlemen, may I present your #3 starter!
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on June 14, 2008, 12:19:11 AM
BTW; I think Howard was intentionally hit. He pimped it a little too much on his shot that made it 17. Springer comes in and hits him in the thigh. That is where he should hit him though. Put it on the leg and not up and in or on the hands where a guy can get hurt.
Oh, no doubt it was a purpose pitch. And .212 hitters shouldn't pimp it up so much. Still lame to be thrown out. Want to issue a warning, fine. But that was crazy.
Myers is tied for most HRs given up this season in the majors.
And the Phils haven't been swept, but they have lost three in a row: they lost two to the Blue Jays and then one to the Nats back in the middle of May.
It's really hard to believe that this team hasn't had more than a 3 game losing streak yet this year. Not because they haven't been playing good ball. But because they're the Phillies.
And Larussa is a great manager. I agree with Phreak that I believe he is a tad overrated, but he's still great. Having said that, I still can't stand the arrogant douche and I might toss a couple batteries at him on Sunday. I went to several Phillies/Cards games when I lived out here before and I'm really going to miss booing Scott Rolen this time.
So who do the Phillies hit today? It's normally the best player, but the Cardinals don't have one because Pooholes is out. I'd do it to Aaron Miles just because he was a little fag and pitched yesterday.
Rudy tried it yesterday...and failed, badly
Well yea, so someone needs to step, take one for the team, and clunk a bitchass Cardinal in the face. I suggest Ryan Madson, what the hell does he do anymore?
give up hits
Is Condrey still around too?
Clay is the last man in the pen, he has a more vital role than Madson at this point.
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on June 14, 2008, 12:19:11 AM
BTW; I think Howard was intentionally hit. He pimped it a little too much on his shot that made it 17. Springer comes in and hits him in the thigh. That is where he should hit him though. Put it on the leg and not up and in or on the hands where a guy can get hurt.
The comical thing was the Cardinals announcers screaming that the umpire had just done them wrong - SO WRONG!
:-D
Those Romes make taterskins fans seem rational.
what the hell, i could see in real time that wasn't a farging catch...the top of the lineup was pathetic today, they let Kyle farging Loshe shut them down...sickening
20 runs yesterday, 2 today.
Awesome.
They didn't deserve the call because the next guy would have done what the rest of them did today anyways - get shut down by Lohse. Although it was clear as day he trapped it.
Meh. Boring game.
I met Joe Savery's Mom today in the grocery store. Lady walks up to me and says "thats a real Phillies jersey isn't it". I tell her that it is and she says her son was drafted by the Phillies last year. I ask the name and she tells me Joe Savery. I told her how Philly fans were the best and to tell him to enjoy his time in Philly because we are passionate and all of that. She asked about the booing and I told her people only get booed if they don't hustle, are under-performing and the fans think he should be better or if Angelo Cataldi and Rhea Hughes tell people to boo.
She said he loves it and loved being drafted by a team that is in a baseball city.
Fascinating isn't it?
OHMIGOD
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I also told her to tell her kid to never give that jewish journalist Todd Orodenker an interview.
Lohsey!
Quote from: FastFreddie on June 14, 2008, 09:02:19 PM
Lohsey!
i hate that i came on to the board and a right wing zealout posted exactly what i was gonna do
LOLohsey!
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on June 14, 2008, 07:51:56 PM
I also told her to tell her kid to never give that jewish journalist Todd Orodenker an interview.
wait, how did you just put a sentence together? you can...write?? wow!
so, the Phillies tie the game when Burrell walks with the bases loaded. charlie, for some reason, decides to pinch run So for Burrell...the player that would eventually make it 9-6 if he scored, it wasn't like he was the go-ahead run, and there was two outs.
Jenkins strikes out, so you figure at least So will come out for defense? nope, Werth to left, Vic in center, Jenkins in right and now you don't have Burrell for extras...just awful.
i was just saying this to myself...incredibly stupid move...my thing is why doesnt jimmy williams stop him when hes doing this crap
who knows, probably drunk
horrible hideous bullshtein call
wow, Bruntlett really farged that play up
if he slides he's safe, but he tries to be a hero and crosses the plate so that he can run over the guy no blocking the plate...what a farging moron.
Quote from: ice grillin you on June 15, 2008, 05:20:37 PM
horrible hideous bullshtein call
it was a good call, he tagged him on the knee, but only because Bruntlett ran at him for some reason and didn't realize you don't want to go near the guy with the ball
can someone explain to me why the runners didnt advance
15 LOB
FIFTEEN!
Bruntlett is a goddamn idiot. He should have scored on Vic's hit, but the chowderhead went back to 2nd first. Then, like Sun said, he should have slid and he is safe.
Charlie running for Burrell there was ignorant.
These last two games have been annoying and frustrating to watch.
what an abortion
Total farging trash.
1. Those two plays are on Choke. He goes after the balls that are clearly for the 2B and leaves the pitcher and Utley out to dry. Newsflash....you aren't getting them! Get your ass to the base and take the throws. Goddamn.
2. LOB and no big hits at all today or yesterday.
3. Bruntlett is trash as a PR
I hate watching sloppy baseball.
5-4 after the first nine of this tough ass 15 game stretch...doesnt seem bad on paper but its actually bad considering they swept the braves....phils gotta show they can win a series against the other best teams in baseball...the two good teams theyve faced have taken it to them
I am beginning to hate watching Jenkins.
This douchebag comes up after the Cards are doing a walk-a-thon and starts swinging away. He always swings and misses and misses badly.
farging idiot.
Outscored the Cardinals 28-12 in the series. Lost 2 of 3.
See, these are the Phillies I know and love. Welcome back guys.
Quote from: MDS on June 15, 2008, 09:46:15 PM
See, these are the Phillies I know and love. Welcome back guys.
:) x 100 You are as bad a "fan" of the Phils as IGY is of the Eagles.
Bruntlett's baserunning gaffe was awful. Wheeler defending it was nauseating.
Wow I love you.
Bruntlett is a terrible baserunner. This isn't the first time he incorrectly read a ball, just because he's kind of fast doesn't mean he should pinch run for people. But the worst move was taking out Burrell for Jap. His run would have made it 9-6 and Howard was clogging up the bases in front of him. Just a retarded move.
i wish we all could be as good of a sports fan as pg
farg THE RED SOX (http://www.philly.com/inquirer/sports/20080616_Bob_Ford__Red_Sox_Nation__Scourge_on_the_country.html)
Went to the game yesterday. Pathetic execution by the Phils. 15 lob. Had the bases loaded 3x and I don't believe they registered a single hit or sacrifice. I believe the only runs they scored was when they walked 2 in. Myers sucked something awful and I couldn't beleive Cholly left him in as long as he did. Infuriating.
And what the hell happened in the 10th? 2 errors on the exact same play. I was hard to tell from my angle but were they both bad throws from Utley or did Gordon not get into position fast enough?
As for the new Busch Stadium. Very nice looking ball park but a little plain in comparison to many of the new retro style stadiums. Walking through the concorse I noticed that they hung regular, rear projection tv's.....the old style, not even flat screen. And that was only on the lower level. Up on the 3rd level, there's no tv's at all for you to keep an eye on the game while waiting in line for concessions.
Speaking of concessions......way overpriced and not very good. Their nachos were pretty good ($8) but everything else was crap. They also don't offer lids for drinks unless you buy the $7 souvenier cup.
The loudest the stadium got was when So Taguchi came in to pinch run. It was louder than when the winning run came across.
There was also some lady a few rows behind me who kept yelling at the "refs." She thought every pitch the Cards threw was a strike and when he'd call a ball she'd yell "Open your eyes ref!" and stupid crap like that. When the game went to the 10th I heard her on her cell phone telling someone that the game was going into overtime. Even my kids thought she was annoying and clueless.
Good day though, beautiful weather and all that. Overall I give the stadium a 7 out of 10 and the Phils a (minus) 102.
anyone want to call the dc sniper and ask him to perch himself atop cbp and start picking off sox fans tonight? is there are a more irritating fan group in america at this point? if there arent 25 fights tonight im gonna be disappointed.
i wanna see how many of them show tomorrow nite...cause if youre at a regular season baseball game instead of either being at or watching the celtics game then youre fraudulent
A fraudulent what? Sawx fan for not watching the Celtics game?
fraudulent sox fan...fans that arent from boston but like the sox because of fever pitch..which is about 75% of their fanbase
So if they're watching the Red Sox, they aren't actually Red Sox fans. Got it.
just like 25% of the eagles fans at the Linc are fraudulent...yes
Quote from: Sgt PSN on June 16, 2008, 02:44:05 PM
So if they're watching the Red Sox, they aren't actually Red Sox fans. Got it.
if they are from north carolina and root for the sox because of drew barrymore but could care less about boston or any of their other teams then yes they are huge frauds
Quote from: SunMo on June 16, 2008, 02:49:10 PM
just like 25% of the eagles fans at the Linc are fraudulent...yes
Is that because they watched
Invincible or
The Garbage Pail Kicking, Field Goal Kicking, Philadelphia Phenominon?
Quote from: ice grillin you on June 16, 2008, 02:51:20 PM
if they are from north carolina and root for the sox because of drew barrymore but could care less about boston or any of their other teams then yes they are huge frauds
Oh, ok. Be sure and keep tabs on how many NC plates you see in the parking lot with Red Sox bumper stickers.
are you actually trying to argue that there arent people all over the country who became red sox "fans" in the last 4-5 years...and who dont all make up a story of having some connection to boston...tell me youre not denying this
sarge is a hardcore sawx fan i think he thinks
Im with IGY, all these Sox fans popped up, look at all the new gear. It's hilarious. farg em all. I'd rather sit here my entire lifetime and join those bandwagon fargs
Ask em to spell "Yastrzemski"
espn feed working in philly for some reason, so you can enjoy shulman and phillips sucking sox cock for 3 hours or wheels....hmmm
Howard with two opposite field homers tonight. When he's right, that's how he hits them - he may be finally warming up a bit.
Howard - 57 hits, 58 RBI
didnt see the second, but the first was a routine flyout.
Howard is now second in the NL in RBI's despite being shtein-awful for most of the year.
That's crazy.
routine flyout? stop.
it was a CBP special, but it still hits the wall or warning track at any other ballpark and most likely isn't caught.
nah prolly knot
jd drew with a bomb. shouldve given him the money.
Cole just gave up back to back dingers to Pedroia and Mr. Copper Top.
Burrell with a... triple? :o
jenkins is not good at baseball.
HOWARD with a triple... Howard and Burrell on the same night. :-D
Quote from: MDS on June 16, 2008, 07:04:07 PMespn feed working in philly for some reason
It was the only 7PM game but yeah, usually they just show ESPNEWS
Burrell and Howard with triples on the same night....f'ing awesome
thats a big dude cruisin them bases.
Howard isn't even looking to pull the ball at this point. He's just swinging level and letting the ball get deep on him before finishing his swing.
It's bad farging news for everyone they face if he starts hitting like this for a month or so.
really wish the lineup after burrell wasn't always a guaranteed out. are u kidding me again jenkins..
For some reason Utley just isn't seeing the ball well tonight. He even missed the meatballs Timlin was lobbing up there.
Hamels needs to put Pedroia on his ass here.
stupid charlie took burrell out already...i farging hate that shtein
Quote from: SunMo on June 16, 2008, 09:08:42 PM
stupid charlie took burrell out already...i farging hate that shtein
So?
utley hasnt had a hit since friday. just a normal slump.
jenkins is also in a pretty bad slump, though he was a lot better in may (.303 avg, .818 ops). hes also been brutal against lhp, but thats expected when he only gets 15 ab's against them.
hes also the best option against rhp, werth is hitting below .250 and has a lower ops. the obp's are about the same, but thats just because werth walks so much.
In this case it's actually a good move. Or at least it would have been if Jenkins hadn't swung at the first pitch (again).
Someone needs to clue that farger in that he's not playing in Milwaukee anymore so there's no reason to play like an AIDS-glazed jockstrap.
ge off is what he is. his performance so far has pretty much been consistent with his career averages. and he looks like brett favre, legendary drug addicted qb.
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FTW!
hah, cole flippin out for walking drew with a 6 run lead was awesome. should've just pegged him in the knee. or face.
Quote from: L-ong-B-each-I-ggle on June 16, 2008, 09:23:15 PM
hah, cole flippin out for walking drew with a 6 run lead was awesome. should've just pegged him in the knee. or face.
With a D-cell.
God damn Colon is huge
I know it's been hot out there, but the field looks horrible. My high school field we got ready for summer league looks 100 times better. yeah me.
Quote from: phillymic2000 on June 16, 2008, 10:06:20 PM
I know it's been hot out there, but the field looks horrible. My high school field we got ready for summer league looks 100 times better. yeah me.
They had a few nights of Jimmy Buffett concerts on it while the Phils were on the road. Its supposed to be fixed when they go on the road again.
that would explain it. And here I was thinking I was some guru on turf and had a chance at the big leagues :(
Quote from: SD_Eagle on June 16, 2008, 09:56:27 PM
God damn Colon is huge
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QuoteHoward was hitting a season-low .163 on May 7, but he has hit a respectable .276 (40 for 145) with nine doubles, two triples, 13 home runs and 46 RBIs since. He has hit .500 (9 for 18) with one double, one triple, four home runs, and 13 RBIs in his last four games.
Keep it up, fat man.
It's not too likely, but if they swept the Sucks, I might cream my pants.
did you see the stats on choke last night that espn flashed...in four of the last eight games hes hitting .563 with like 17 rbi and in the other four games he has one hit and seven k's
they also said hes the second player since wwII that has had four games of four or more rbi in an 8 game span...albert belle is the other
Quote
The Citizens Bank Park outfield had noticeable patches of yellow grass last night, the result of hosting Saturday night's Jimmy Buffet concert.
Cosmetics aside, this can lead to safety concerns. Two years ago, after Wrigley Field had been used for non-baseball events, Phillies centerfielder Aaron Rowand stepped in an indentation on the turf and broke a leg.
That apparently wasn't a problem last night after the grounds crew spent the better part of 2 days prepping the surface. After having a chance to check out the condition of the field during batting practice, leftfielder Pat Burrell pronounced it "absolutely perfect."
Because everyone cares.
Quote
Brett Myers is 3-8 with a 5.58 earned run average after getting knocked around by the Cardinals on Sunday. He has given up a frightening number of home runs, 20 to be exact, most in the major leagues.
So what will he and pitching coach Rich Dubee be working on between now and his next scheduled start against the Angels on Saturday?
"Before the last start we thought we had hit on something and we'll keep working on that," Dubee said. "We want him to take the ball out of his glove earlier to get more downward plane on the ball. He did it, but not consistently enough. His [pitches] are a little flat right now."
I don't know that they are flat, I just know they are pretty much the same pitch, every other pitch, and normally sub-90 mph fastballs chugging high across the plate. Baffles me where his hook went, the one that was his K pitch when he was closing. I really feel like Myers is still applying a closer's mentality, with obvious results. He's not mixing pitches, and even when he does, the curve isn't really part of the plan.
unless youre a moyer or maddux or someone that can locate like a mother the off speed stuff doesnt really work when the fastballs are coming in the mid to upper 80's
It's just ridiculous how often Howard K's. He's on pace to strike out more than 200 times this season and break his own record.
right on top of it arent you?
I'm only hard on him because he's black, clearly.
If I recall correctly, I believe ESPN said he was on pace for 217.
Quote from: FastFreddie on June 17, 2008, 10:20:46 AM
I'm only hard on him because he's black, clearly.
whatever the reason youre about two years to late
Yeah, but now he's getting paid $10 million. He should respond by improving his play accordingly.
What's this I hear about Howard being on pace to break his single season K record?
Quote from: Sgt PSN on June 17, 2008, 12:31:38 PM
What's this I hear about Howard being on pace to break his single season K record?
He misses the ball a lot.
Is that bad?
Quote from: Sgt PSN on June 17, 2008, 12:31:38 PM
What's this I hear about Howard being on pace to break his single season K record?
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haha, that's awesome
Quote from: ice grillin you on June 17, 2008, 12:47:43 PM
Quote from: Sgt PSN on June 17, 2008, 12:31:38 PM
What's this I hear about Howard being on pace to break his single season K record?
You Can Get The Latest Here (http://www.concretefield.com/forum/index.php?action=pm;sa=send;u=73)
Quote from: SunMo on June 17, 2008, 12:48:20 PM
haha, that's awesome
Agreed. Well played.
Phils broadcast leads off by blowing Jon Lester and his no-hitter a few weeks ago.
farg Boston.
Moyer scares me against this line-up.
Old man knows what hes doing, Cletus. Relax.
moyer only has 50+ pitches through 2 innings. :paranoid
Quote from: MDS on June 17, 2008, 07:11:55 PM
Old man knows what hes doing, Cletus. Relax.
i think the two time world series champs might know a little more
I farging hate Carlos Ruiz.
Quote from: PhillyGirl on June 17, 2008, 08:01:09 PM
I farging hate Carlos Ruiz.
i would've rather seen him sacrafice and just have moyer hit.
Comcast is splendid.
after rollins gets a 1 out single 3 more pitches and out of inning. :boom
Try listening to NESN.
Quote from: Geowhizzer on June 17, 2008, 08:18:54 PM
Try listening to NESN.
Comcast is literally frozen and has been for the past 20 minutes. They are hoping I will eventually cave and buy a trip on the Phillies Phantastic Voyage, but I'm holding steadfast in my refusal.
do you have digital cable?
try unplugging your box and letting it sit for a minute and plugging it back in.
howard blown away. burrell caught looking. werths slow. your not missing much. still 2-0.
Moyer hung in there after giving up 2 runs (home run to Coco Crisp... :-D).
Unfortunately, the offense cannot seem to touch Lester.
are they ever going to throw somebody out stealing.
and of course it bites them in the ass. slow farging burrell piece of shtein.
manuel lets ruiz hit for himself in the 7th with 2 on and 2 out. ruiz really is useless.
but really, charlie rules as a gametime manager...he's the best
between comcast's constant blowing of Boston, and the pathetic display of the lineup, this game is one of the worst in recent memory
Wheels thinks Lester is dreamy. Who would have guessed.
Thanks for the tip, btw, Sun.
It's working now . . . unfortunately.
and then casey steals his first bag since halfway through last year against barajas jr.
it would help if the phillies had a better rh pinch hitting option that wasnt a catcher. werth is gonna play against rhp, so when that happens, the two key guys off the bench are ge off and dobbsy, both of whom are left handed.
a manager like manuel, who is conventional and plays by the book, isnt gonna consistently pinch hit coste and isnt gonna waste his catcher for someone zesty like so taguchi or eric bruntlett. basically it would help the phillies added another rh bat of the bench that wasnt a catcher and was solely a bench player, not a platoon player like werth.
or if manuel got off the soapbox and stop playing by this absurd notion that you need to save the catcher. the odds of a catcher getting knocked out of the game for an injury are so slim. its such a ridiculous thing to do, saving coste just in case something might happen. farg.
but he's using him the very next inning with nobody on for the pitcher, so you're theory is out the window
yea that was just retarded. now you cant ph for ruiz in the 9th (lets say theres a rally) unless they double switch.
all of this probably doesnt matter because they arent winning this game, but manuel is just stupid.
that's why i said what i said, coste was on-deck for the pitcher in the 7th...so i knew he was going to use him. if you're ok with using him, then farging use him for ruiz and let bruntlett lead off the 8th
well clearly someone should have told that to charles
they don't get near him when he's coloring
well we shall see how aggressive he is pinch hitting for pedro phillies or maybe even going balls out and pinch hitting for ruiz if he doesnt double switch.
papelboner throws hard and the ball is carrying at the bank tonight, swing hard and shtein can happen.
thanks wheels
Quote from: MDS on June 17, 2008, 09:39:47 PM
it would help if the phillies had a better rh pinch hitting option that wasnt a catcher. werth is gonna play against rhp, so when that happens, the two key guys off the bench are ge off and dobbsy, both of whom are left handed.
a manager like manuel, who is conventional and plays by the book, isnt gonna consistently pinch hit coste and isnt gonna waste his catcher for someone zesty like so taguchi or eric bruntlett. basically it would help the phillies added another rh bat of the bench that wasnt a catcher and was solely a bench player, not a platoon player like werth.
or if manuel got off the soapbox and stop playing by this absurd notion that you need to save the catcher. the odds of a catcher getting knocked out of the game for an injury are so slim. its such a ridiculous thing to do, saving coste just in case something might happen. farg.
everything you say is irrelevant because werth used to be a catcher and even caught a game in spring training this year...they have an emergency third catcher...basically its pointless to overanalyze chuckles...hes a terrible manager anyway you look at it
of course he is. but last night, lets say they get a rally going, and it comes to ruiz's spot. he has to hit, he didnt double switch out of the spot and coste is used. to lead off an inning. it was just all pointless.
haha, Ruiz is starting again today...Charlie rules
I think Coste must have banged Charlie's son or something.
Quote from: MDS on June 18, 2008, 10:58:40 AM
of course he is. but last night, lets say they get a rally going, and it comes to ruiz's spot. he has to hit, he didnt double switch out of the spot and coste is used. to lead off an inning. it was just all pointless.
im talking about in general not last night
Already down 4-0, 0 outs. Lowell and Drew went deep.
Kendrick is hanging his sinker dead center in the middle of the plate.
They should have signed Lohse.
phillies are getting dangerously close to not being able to win unless king starts
this 15 game stretch is exposing them as not yet near ready for prime time
To be fair, Moyer and Kendrick have both had more good starts (including Moyer last night in the loss) than bad ones. Myers has been pitching like Eaton, and Eaton has been not completely horrible.
The problem is that if Moyer starts pitching like he's 45, Myers doesn't shape up, Eaton continues to slowly descend back toward the Eaton of last year, and Kendrick strings together a bunch of bad starts...
Well, shtein. It's going to be ugly. And that doesn't even factor in that the bullpen has been MUCH better than expected, and a few of those guys (Durbin, Romero, Lidge) could crap out too.
moyer and kendrick have been good for moyer and kendrick...but not good for a team that has world series aspirations...they need pitching desperately because this offense in the playoffs will not be what it is in the regular season
You mean if 4 of the 5 starters all collapse at the same time, it could get bad? Really? shtein.
Quote from: Wingspan on June 18, 2008, 01:33:15 PM
You mean is 4 of the 5 starters all collapse at the same time, it could get bad? Really? shtein.
Well, one already has collapsed (Myers) and one is basically expected to collapse (Eaton). So, if Moyer and Kendrick are your #2 and #3... Yeah, there could be trouble ahead.
They aren't hitting well is whats killing them. Its fun and great and all when they hang 8 or 20 runs on a team but putting up a goose egg or 1 or 2 runs the next couple of games isn't gonna get it done.
Looks like Kendrick won't get through 4 innings.
well he went seven last game so he had to bring his average back down to its normal 5
utley is just brutal these days. obviously its a horrid slump and he'll break out of it, but when choke is doing his usual thing and burrell is flailing along, it doesn't really give them any kind of chance to win.
and yea they need to go balls out and get sabathia or sheets or something. anything less than that aint gonna get the job done.
Quote from: SD_Eagle on June 18, 2008, 01:36:18 PM
They aren't hitting well is whats killing them. Its fun and great and all when they hang 8 or 20 runs on a team but putting up a goose egg or 1 or 2 runs the next couple of games isn't gonna get it done.
Exacty. Their pitching, for the most part, has been fine. But right now Utley and Howard are slumping, and for this team to succeed you need 2 of the 3 in the middle (Utley/Howard/Burrell) to be hitting.
That said, every team slumps once in a while, and I would rather have to get through this in June, rather than August.
And while we're at it...can someone let the fans know that incessantly booing JD Drew isn't working?
i wouldn't doubt they go through this in August too
their lineup is prone to slumps...they don't walk a ton and play for the 3 run homerun
also they are incredibly slow 4-9, like pretty much no one can go 1st to 3rd, 2nd to home or steal a base (except for werth when he plays). it really doesnt help things when you always have to play station to station baseball and have guys with obp's hovering around .300.
They're in the top 10 in MLB in being walked actually. #5 in NL.
im worried about an october slump
im worried about a comeback
Nothing to worry about there. Need 3 runs with the 5-hole set to lead off.
Quote from: FastFreddie on June 18, 2008, 03:51:49 PM
Nothing to worry about there. Need 3 runs with the 5-hole set to lead off.
The top of the order has produced squat today, 2 men on no outs with Victorino, Utley, and Howard and they get shtein. The bottom of the order has been hittin. They basically have this inning to win it because once Papelbom comes in its game over.
three wins against atlanta
three wins combined against the three good teams theyve played in this stretch
they need to sweep the angels to 'easily' reach the nine wins wing boldly predicted
well that sucked. everyone take a break and come back friday.
I love it. They lose two games to one of the best teams in the league and suddenly it's fire and brimstone. Settle down, sisters.
actually, they've lost 3 series in a row and with the exception of 2 games the offense has been putrid
casual following is not your thing
its not like the seasons over they can of course still make the playoffs...but this 15 game stretch was a chance to show they could take it to the big boys and i think it was an important test...so far its a test they have failed...losing every series in this stretch aginst quality opponents
unless they make some serious moves at the deadline they have no chance of making the world series much less winning it...nothing less nothing more
Quote from: SunMo on June 18, 2008, 04:38:36 PM
actually, they've lost 3 series in a row and with the exception of 2 games the offense has been putrid
casual following is not your thing
Please.
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Hit.
Quote from: Wingspan on June 18, 2008, 04:50:23 PM
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easily 9
Quote from: ice grillin you on June 05, 2008, 08:38:21 AM
3 @ atlanta
3 @ florida - 2nd place
3 @ stl - 2nd place
3 vs bos - 1st place
3 vs laa - 1st place
winning seven of those would be good cause for me to post a bunch of panicky shtein about how the team isn't a real contender
contender for what?...to win a playoff game this year....that would be a huge step forward
sorry but i could care less about making the playoffs they already did that....either they are a world series title contender or who the hell cares...and right now they are NOT a world seriesa title contender
and lol @ anyone saying anything negative about them being panicky
was i being unrealistic when i asked if this team was for real two weeks ago?
The Phillies might not win another game this season.
The farg is up with Utley?
swinging and missing a lot
Should they trade him?
only if they can get a corey lidle type
Helluva pilot, that guy.
Maybe Bronson Arroyo or Gil Meche would work?
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on June 18, 2008, 11:11:14 PM
The farg is up with Utley?
Seems to be studying at the Ryan Howard Hitting Academy.
Oh wow...the Phils follow up a great stretch with a semi-slump and the world is in complete craziness and they won't make the playoffs now?
show one example of someone getting "crazy"
show one example of someone saying they wouldnt make the playoffs
your one post is way nuttier and off the handle than all the other posts combined
who cares if they make the playoffs. they did that last year.
Quote from: L-ong-B-each-I-ggle on June 19, 2008, 02:56:21 PM
who cares if they make the playoffs. they did that last year.
Well, that was a lot better than the previous 14 years.
Quote from: Geowhizzer on June 19, 2008, 06:52:03 PM
Quote from: L-ong-B-each-I-ggle on June 19, 2008, 02:56:21 PM
who cares if they make the playoffs. they did that last year.
Well, that was a lot better than the previous 14 years.
and it was awesome...but now its time to win a championship
Quote from: ice grillin you on June 19, 2008, 07:41:53 PM
Quote from: Geowhizzer on June 19, 2008, 06:52:03 PM
Quote from: L-ong-B-each-I-ggle on June 19, 2008, 02:56:21 PM
who cares if they make the playoffs. they did that last year.
Well, that was a lot better than the previous 14 years.
and it was awesome...but now its time to win a championship
Isn't happening, not without another starting pitcher.
agree
Stark:
QuotePhretting in Philly: With the help of a number of clubs that have spoken with the Phillies, we've assembled this shopping list of starting pitchers it appears they've at least kicked tires on: Sabathia, A.J. Burnett, Bronson Arroyo and (surprisingly) Jarrod Washburn. Bedard just hit the market, so you can add his name any minute now.
But those same clubs say the Phillies might have the hardest decisions to make of just about any team with win-the-World Series upside. If they go for it now -- and decimate their still-thin system to deal for a big-name rent-a-pitcher like Sabathia or Burnett -- this might be the only year they'd be capable of contending.
To make a trade like that, they'd probably have to give up both of their two most advanced starting-pitching prospects, Carlos Carrasco and Antonio basticho. So if they lose Brad Lidge and their rent-a-starter to free agency, and Jamie Moyer retires, Brett Myers doesn't rebound and Adam Eaton's first half turns out to be a mirage, the Phillies' pitching staff next year would essentially consist of Cole Hamels, Kyle Kendrick, J.C. Romero, Ryan Madson, an uncertain Myers and seven question marks.
"So that's a tough call," said one NL executive. "Do you say, 'Go for it, and the hell with next year'? Or do you think big picture, but maybe not have enough [pitching] to win this year? It's a scary choice to have to make."
I also read that he said they inquired about Ryan Freel too.
He would be an ideal guy to have on the bench.
Burnett is nothing special and gets hurt a lot.
Arroyo is not really better than what they already have
Washburn is no good
CC is the only one I would want (no shtein?)
Sabathia is the only one who would make a difference.
The franchise is going down the tubes when Amaro takes over next year anyway, might as well go out swinging.
nobody will say shtein if they win a world championship. I think everyone is just a little tired of the "stay competitive for years to come" concept. That goes for all Philly sports. Its about time just one of these friggin sports teams goes for broke. I cant see why these gm's dont see whats going on around them
You think anyone is going to care that that much if the Celtics are mediocre next year, or the Patriots dont make the playoffs, or the Red Sox etc. Though the chances are probably slim, still in the end its all about the trophy and if you hold one people can cope with a lost season/s--then you rebound
I'm sick of the "stay competitive" bullcrap. The Eagles have fostered that retarded philosophy for years and look what it's gotten them. Nothing.
Just go for the big one this year and then worry about next year next year for a change.
QuoteReport: Phillies sent a scout to watch Roy Oswalt
Although he is not believed to be on Houston's trading block, several teams – including the Yankees, Angels, Braves, Mets and Phillies, sent scouts to watch the right-hander, according to MLB.com. [link]
Oswalt is under Houston control through 2011 and is earning $13M this season. The deal includes a no-trade clause and an option, however, and goes up to $14M in '09, $15M in '10 and $16M in '11. His numbers have dropped off sharply this season (5-7, 5.06 ERA, 83 ERA+), thanks to 17 homers allowed, fourth most in the National League and one away from matching his career high for a season. The Astros (33-39) have lost seven in a row and have fallen 12 games behind the Cubs in the NL Central.
Beerleaguer: Hey, Ed? Would you like to be reunited with your 2004 first-round draft pick? Sounds like scouting for scouting's sake. The same article reiterates the Phillies' search for left-handed relief, which appears to be deep with candidates. MLB Trade Rumors lists Colorado's Brian Fuentes, Pittsburgh's John Grabow and Damaso Marte, Cincinnati's Jeremy Affeldt and Kansas City's Ron Mahay among the candidates.
For what it would take to get Oswalt and considering the numbers on his deal I'd rather they trade for Sabathia and re-signed him. Oswalt has some innings on that arm and could be Freddie Garcia part deux.
trade clearwater lakewood and reading for oswalt sabathia burnett and marte
The Phillies gained half a game on both Atlanta AND Washington last night.
This is an incredible run.
Is that even possible?!?!?
pretty much unpossible
never heard of
Eaton's great.
Quote from: PhillyGirl on June 20, 2008, 07:17:59 PM
Eaton's great.
ahaha....youve been waiting to do that for so long
Santana looks to have good stuff tonight.
Utley needs a couple of days off.
Quote from: Geowhizzer on June 20, 2008, 07:24:14 PM
Santana looks to have good stuff tonight.
everyone does against utley
and he had his day off yesterday its friggin baseball how many days off do you need...i love when utley blows he needs a day off but when burrell or howard blow they need to be sent down to aaa or benched
Quote from: ice grillin you on June 20, 2008, 07:32:10 PM
Quote from: Geowhizzer on June 20, 2008, 07:24:14 PM
Santana looks to have good stuff tonight.
everyone does against utley
and he had his day off yesterday its friggin baseball how many days off do you need...i love when utley blows he needs a day off but when burrell or howard blow they need to be sent down to aaa or benched
One hasn't shown the propensity of slumping like this nearly as often as the other two. You do the math.
Speaking of Burrell, he just missed that one.
two are power hitters one isnt
choke went rookie of the year to mvp to a big year last year...you know im not even a howard guy and im not saying that anything needs to be done with utley hell snap out of it....but the double standard btwn utley and everyone else on the team is insane and im not talking about you...your post just brought it up again...it happens all the time the on blogs and wip and the newspaper websites...its always utley needs time off while the other guys need to be crucified
Quote from: ice grillin you on June 20, 2008, 07:40:43 PM
two are power hitters one isnt
choke went rookie of the year to mvp to a big year last year...you know im not even a howard guy and im not saying that anything needs to be done with utley hell snap out of it....but the double standard btwn utley and everyone else on the team is insane and im not talking about you...your post just brought it up again...it happens all the time the on blogs and wip and the newspaper websites...its always utley needs time off while the other guys need to be crucified
I've never said to crucify the other two.
Howard, unfortunately, has regressed since is incredible first two seasons. He's become a hitter not unlike Thome during his time here: incredibly inconsistent, but with great raw power when he's on. To me, he insists on pulling off the balll, trying to yank everything down the line. When he's hitting well, he'll hit a lot of his homers to left field. He finally seems to be getting out of that funk right now, and he could get hot and stay hot all summer. There's probably another deep and hard slump along the line, though.
Burrell has just never quite become the hitter that he seemed destined to be during his first couple of seasons. Personally, I think his foot injuries took a lot out of him for a few years running. It's got to be hard to hit well and consistently if you don't have a solid base. Also, he tends to internalize the criticism he gets (and I agree, he gets way too much) and presses, which sometimes just makes his slumps worse. To his credit, he's been more consistent this year. How much of this is because of being more healthy and how much is due to being a contract year is anyone's guess. I'd say a bit of both.
I'm not sure what is wrong with Utley (injury or just mechanics way out of whack), but I think he needs a couple of days to work out the kinks, work on his swing without the pressure of the game, and try to come roaring back. A scheduled day off isn't going to do that - he needs "park days" to work with the coaches. Hell, maybe get his eyesight examined. He's looked too much like Geoff Jenkins and not enough like Chase Utley for far too long now.
Quote from: SD_Eagle on June 20, 2008, 07:40:54 AM
For what it would take to get Oswalt and considering the numbers on his deal I'd rather they trade for Sabathia and re-signed him. Oswalt has some innings on that arm and could be Freddie Garcia part deux.
Oswalt was "pitching to contact" this year up until about 2 weeks ago. Someone told him to just get people out the easiest way, so racking up a pitch count and putting the batters to shame is the way he's going now. He's no Freddy Garcia...luckily. He has a NTC anyways.
thats my point
choke has regressed
but utley is just tired or lol he needs glasses
its always something other than utley
like omg its the great chase utley it couldnt be his fault
utley farging blows right now nothign less nothing more...days off dont help that..a day of rest might but the only way good hitters get out of slumps is to fight thru it...and ive never even heard of a "park day"...what is that
that "flyin hawaiian" figurine was absolutely frightening.
benson faced 13 batters and allowed five runs on three homers in two innings.
they need to get another bat thats hits for average further down in the lineup that they lost when rowand departed. preferably a righty cleanup hitter that drops howard down to 5th and burrell to 6th if they keep him.
also an actual #1 pitcher is a pretty good idea. or even one with an ERA under 6 is excellent as well.
and vlad continues to murder the phils.
Quote from: ice grillin you on June 20, 2008, 08:38:12 PM
thats my point
choke has regressed
but utley is just tired or lol he needs glasses
its always something other than utley
like omg its the great chase utley it couldnt be his fault
utley farging blows right now nothign less nothing more...days off dont help that..a day of rest might but the only way good hitters get out of slumps is to fight thru it...and ive never even heard of a "park day"...what is that
A day to work at the park without playing in the game - work on his mechanics.
And get it through your thick freaking skull: Howard has regressed. That is statistically proven from the first two seasons to the last two seasons. This is one of the first ones for Utley like this. What is so freaking hard to understand about that? Except, of course, for your love of argument.
If Utley is hitting .225 when next June rolls around, come talk to me about comparisons.
that should've been an in the park hr.
Quote from: L-ong-B-each-I-ggle on June 20, 2008, 08:56:37 PM
that should've been an in the park hr.
absolutely. nice job shane.
Quote from: Geowhizzer on June 20, 2008, 08:54:20 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on June 20, 2008, 08:38:12 PM
thats my point
choke has regressed
but utley is just tired or lol he needs glasses
its always something other than utley
like omg its the great chase utley it couldnt be his fault
utley farging blows right now nothign less nothing more...days off dont help that..a day of rest might but the only way good hitters get out of slumps is to fight thru it...and ive never even heard of a "park day"...what is that
A day to work at the park without playing in the game - work on his mechanics.
And get it through your thick freaking skull: Howard has regressed. That is statistically proven from the first two seasons to the last two seasons. This is one of the first ones for Utley like this. What is so freaking hard to understand about that? Except, of course, for your love of argument.
If Utley is hitting .225 when next June rolls around, come talk to me about comparisons.
i told you two years ago howard wasnt the player you thought he was so dont tell me that howard has regressed....he had a career year and then he turned into what he really is...you just happen to see this now
and theres no such thing as a park day...you just made that up...you watch film to spot mechanical problems then you take batting practice and if you need the rest you take a day off...other than that there isnt anything major league hitters can do to get out of a slump...except according to you go to lens crafters...the great chase utley couldnt suck right now there has to be some other worldly power causing this
Quote from: ice grillin you on June 20, 2008, 09:03:24 PM
Quote from: Geowhizzer on June 20, 2008, 08:54:20 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on June 20, 2008, 08:38:12 PM
thats my point
choke has regressed
but utley is just tired or lol he needs glasses
its always something other than utley
like omg its the great chase utley it couldnt be his fault
utley farging blows right now nothign less nothing more...days off dont help that..a day of rest might but the only way good hitters get out of slumps is to fight thru it...and ive never even heard of a "park day"...what is that
A day to work at the park without playing in the game - work on his mechanics.
And get it through your thick freaking skull: Howard has regressed. That is statistically proven from the first two seasons to the last two seasons. This is one of the first ones for Utley like this. What is so freaking hard to understand about that? Except, of course, for your love of argument.
If Utley is hitting .225 when next June rolls around, come talk to me about comparisons.
i told you two years ago howard wasnt the player you thought he was so dont tell me that howard has regressed....he had a career year and then he turned into what he really is...you just happen to see this now
and theres no such thing as a park day...you just made that up...you watch film to spot mechanical problems then you take batting practice and if you need the rest you take a day off...other than that there isnt anything major league hitters can do to get out of a slump...except according to you go to lens crafters...the great chase utley couldnt suck right now there has to be some other worldly power causing this
For crying out loud: I put it in quotes because I couldn't think of a better name for it. Utley needs to work with the coaches and get his head cleared a little bit - just about like you just described.
The eyesight think was a bit of hyperbole. I figured you would be well acquained with that since you use it all the time.
Utley is in a slump, and he looks lost and frustrated. To me, he need a couple of days to work out the kinks and get the pressure off him a bit, because as-is, he's not doing the team any favors. I would say the same thing if it was Howard or Burrell. Only you would try to find a victim in every word someone says.
i hope their not taking the same approach to get utley out of his slump as they have with howard for the entire season.
what did i miss?
Quote from: MDS on June 20, 2008, 10:28:35 PM
what did i miss?
More of the same, apparently.
Bums
What is more likely to happen tonight:
1. Chase getting a hit
2. Choke putting a ball in play
3. myers not giving up at least a run in the first
4. Hacktorino not popping up with runners on base
Victorino was the only player on that team last night who played like he gave a damn.
Todd seeing a woman's breast
5. me not eating a minimum of two of these
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it's on
Quote from: ice grillin you on June 21, 2008, 11:28:14 AM
3. myers not giving up at least a three runs in the first
Mmmm... Tony's roast beef.
:'(
Bruntlett is farging brutal on the bases. He singlehandedly cost the Phils the Cards game last Sunday and cost them at least a shot and winning last night.
Quote from: Rome on June 21, 2008, 12:12:45 PM
Mmmm... Tony's roast beef.
:'(
Knowing igy, I'm going to guess that from Nick's.
it was and we went last night before the game...my first time
it was like heaven...
Nick's is some good ish. Havas had me meet him there before a game last year. I had gone there a couple times as a kid and forgot how delicious their roast beef sammiches were.
hey at least utley got a hit
I've missed both games this weekend. I don't think I missed much.
Stupid Jap corksucker has a farging 2-0 count with Chase Utley on deck and he farging swings. He SWINGS!
Nuke Tokyo.
You just missed So Taguchi swinging at a pitch over his head and popping out to end the game.
I don't what was dumber, Taguchi swinging at that pitch or Bruntlett stealing second so they would walk Jimmy to pitch to Taguchi. Manuel is really stupid, isn't he?
Quote from: Rome on June 22, 2008, 04:30:05 PM
Stupid Jap corksucker has a farging 2-0 count with Chase Utley on deck and he farging swings. He SWINGS!
Nuke Tokyo.
Maybe So figured with Utley's slump, how much worse could he be?
it's impossible to watch this team when all 8 starters are in an offensive slump. Howard had a decent day but not scoring in the 1st then falling behind 3-0 in the 2nd killed them. Taguchi can burn in hell....another f'ing Cardinal castoff that hasn't done sht for us.
9-game road trip to Oakland/Texas/Atlanta coming up, while the Marlins, Mets and Braves play at home. If Florida wins today, they take over 1st place by percentage points.... :boom
June Swoon indeed.
Mets won 2 of 3, are now 3.5 back
Braves won 2 of 3, are now 4.0 back
Marlins losing 5-1 in the 6th
And what about the Nationals? For God's sake, man, if you're going to keep us up to date, then KEEP US UP TO DATE!
I will when they're back in the race 3 weeks from now
Florida lost 7-1, so they only gained 2 games on the Phils this week. If there's any good news, they're heading home to face Tampa Bay and Arizona...
Quote from: Rome on June 22, 2008, 04:30:05 PM
Stupid Jap corksucker has a farging 2-0 count with Chase Utley on deck and he farging swings. He SWINGS!
i would have swung too
Quote from: MDS on June 22, 2008, 04:30:56 PM
You just missed So Taguchi swinging at a pitch over his head and popping out to end the game.
I don't what was dumber, Taguchi swinging at that pitch or Bruntlett stealing second so they would walk Jimmy to pitch to Taguchi. Manuel is really stupid, isn't he?
i was shteintin when Bruntlett headed for second. wtf was with that call? this team is in deep dodo. just a terrible series with the halos.
Phils are the frontrunners to get Brian Fuentes. They will give up Fabio Castro in return.
He's been having a great season, doesn't walk anyone and would possibly replace Gordon in the 8th inning role.
I'm fine with the move, it's just that the bullpen is not this teams problem. I hope they don't simply get Fuentes and then say that he's the missing piece. But that's what's most likely to happen.
I'd be OK with that if Castro was actually a 22-yr old righty like the NY Post claims
Better not be Carrasco.
Giving up Castro for Fuentes would be sweet.
And I see these fargbags played like shtein again over the weekend. Pissing away a nice lead in the division, bad ball swinging, poor pitching, bad baserunning.
Maybe its better I did not watch them.
Speaking of not watching, I will not get to see the games against Texas. Why? Because Bud Selig and his brigade of idiots deem me to be in a blackout area for Arlington. 4 hours away.
damn, so you'll miss Padilla's revenge huh
If it wasn't four hours away I'd go up there to see my boy Crazy Vicente go all loco on these bums.
Our main office is in the area and of course the one guy with the ticket hook up is on vacation this week.
the Phils are good at these 1/2 game things
stop scoreboard watching. its june.
why is geoff jenkins the designated "hitter". every at bat i see him get angers me more and more.
Manuel managed to not put Dobbs in the lineup even though Blanton is a RHP. Why? Because lefties hit worse against him. Okay. That's his reasoning for Werth being in there. I can't figure out why he'd choose Jenkins over Dobbs to DH, though.
burrell solo shot, jenkins.. still doesn't know what a strike zone is. 1-0 bums.
ha.....Moyer has 9 Ks through 6
ruiz is up bases loaded 1 out.. please just strike out. dont hit into a DP
wow your kidding right.
this teams farging gay.
from a shutout with 9 Ks to losing 3-1. awesome
Ruiz can eat sht
they scored one to make it look like they had a chance. this offense is still horrid right now. bottom of the order due up in the ninth.. yawn.
they bring in Romero to keep it at one run.....CSN shows a stat that Romero has an ERA of 6.03 against Oakland in his career....sure enough, Cust 2-run HR opposite field
f'ing brutal, but the NL East goes 0-5 again
This team is really starting to piss me off. June can't end soon enough.
Quote from: BigEd76 on June 25, 2008, 12:28:10 AM
f'ing brutal, but the NL East goes 0-5 again
Suck is contagious.
my phreak bets are all looking up
myers less than 15 wins = lock
phillies 88 wins or less very possible
and even my ridiculous phillies under .500 has a shot
True fan.
smart
fan
altho honestly the under .500 bet wasnt something i really believed in just wanted to make sure i got caked off if the team imploded
Nothing says fan passion like betting against the team so you wind up "winning" either way.
Fraud.
pg?
I turned it off after Emil Brown's 3 run shot, I knew the bums wouldn't come back since they're scoring just over 1 run per game over their last 3 series.
I'm not against adding another starting pitcher, but the starters have not been bad over this stretch, the bats have been horrendus. I'm done with Ruiz, I hope he's moved. Jenkins is the teams new Helms.
Quote from: ice grillin you on June 25, 2008, 09:05:39 AM
pg?
Hey...I am not the one that can stand up and cheer no matter what happens. Like some kind of special olympic race.
how appropriare since the phils and especially their manager are retarded
Weak deflection
oh my bad...yes you and pg are correct im not a real fan (of any philly teams)
feel better?
Shut the farg up, both of you.
wow you all are total Romes
Let's continue to talk about how almost every player Gillick brings in is a complete piece of shtein.
Anyone want Bengie Molina? He's on a bad team that should be willing to unload him, he's on a 1-year deal and he doesn't ground into doubleplays like Ruiz.
I'd take Darren Daulton's crazy ass right now
Brad Lidge is trash
Mike Schmidt is going to be at the Reading Phillies game tonight signing autographs for a whole 30 minutes....and he won't take pictures, shake hands, talk or sign anything other than the oversized cards being handed out by the promoting company.... :yay
Sounds about right. He's been an icehole for 35 years so why expect anything more from him now that he's a has-been?
not saying his nickname should be sunshine but the guy is on a nationwide tour of minor league baseball parks to promote prostate cancer awareness not to sign a million autographs
I love Mike Schmidt.
no no no he has to go to a fans house and clean their gutters. he played baseball afterall.
Quote from: ice grillin you on June 25, 2008, 05:08:52 PMthe guy is on a nationwide tour of minor league baseball parks to promote prostate cancer awareness not to sign a million autographs
Understood, but only a half hour? I could see a small window like that if he's in Tennessee or Texas but you'd think a Phillies affiliate would be at least an hour...
Quote from: ice grillin you on June 25, 2008, 05:08:52 PM
not saying his nickname should be sunshine but the guy is on a nationwide tour of minor league baseball parks to promote prostate cancer awareness not to sign a million autographs
He's an icehole. He always has been and always will be.
autograph hounds should be shot.
Lineup for Tonight:
Werth RF
Utley 2B
Rollins SS
Burrell LF
Howard DH
Feliz 3B
Victorino CF
Coste C
Bruntlett 1B
Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm.....
Might as well shake it up. These fargers have been awful.
Plus, any time Ruiz takes a seat, they have a better chance to win.
Burrell at #4? Meh, why not.
Hopefully he steps up to the plate (boo)
id switch feliz and vic, then you have a good lineup. also howard as a dh sounds about right.
nm
utley a homer away from the cycle.
holy S they won one
4-0 shutout, plus the Marlins lost :yay
Utley was about 2 ft away from going 5-for-5
Kendrick = ace?
Fell asleep in the 2nd and still woke up in time to see Romero get the final 3 outs.
That is not an interesting story.
Quote from: rjs246 on June 26, 2008, 07:06:11 AM
That is not an interesting story.
He fell asleep while listening to the Tool Lullabie CD?
they left 3000 men on base.
that number seems high to me
it might have been 2987, ill have to re-check
thanks pal
i hope both of you end up in hell
i don't doubt i'm on my way there
Quote from: SunMo on June 26, 2008, 11:47:19 AM
i don't doubt i'm on my way there
(http://site.hope-health.org/client_pics/white,ryan-ap.jpg) he's waiting for you
there is no such thing as hell. jesus' mom was a farging prostitute, how the hell is he the son of god?
how was she a prostitute? she was a virgin you f'n heeb
didnt you read the da vinci code?
no, i read the bible, that's the only book for me
(http://www.irreligion.org/wp-content/uploads/2008/02/2237283202_efc39ddd19_o.gif)
Quote from: MDS on June 26, 2008, 12:01:18 PM
didnt you read the da vinci code?
That's Jesus' GIRLFRIEND, not his mom.
Two different ladies named Mary. Derrrrrrr.
If "The Da Vinci Code" were true, Jesus has gotten laid more recently than MDS.
lol the first pope was a rabbit
Quote from: MDS on June 26, 2008, 02:33:34 PM
lol the first pope was a rabbit
MDS wins on virtue of South Park reference.
Actually, MDS loses on virtue of you declaring him the winner.
South Park trumps all.
yay Eaton.
Why bother even watching.
I know, right?
2-0 already :-D
Quote from: BigEd76 on June 26, 2008, 03:48:38 PM
2-0 already :-D
it was 2-0 after the first 3 batters.
And poor Eaton's throwing a mini hissy fit when he gets to the dugout? farg you.
same thing Cole did when he gave up 3 runs in one inning, farg him too i guess
The conversation is awesome. Again.
Quote from: SunMo on June 26, 2008, 03:57:07 PM
same thing Cole did when he gave up 3 runs in one inning, farg him too i guess
yes, they compare.
you're right, Eaton only gave up 2 runs...he shouldn't be so hard on himself
Can we blame this on Carlos Ruiz?
I farging hate Geoff Jenkins
Ruiz gets a slight pass because he is actually good defensively, and he can call a good game...I can live with the hitting woes from him...for a while.
But Geoff Jenkins is just a complete waste.
i don't think Ruiz is that good defensively though...not enough that it can excuse getting zero from him offensively
I hate him too, but I've always hated anyone who spells "Jeff" as "Geoff" or "Jef."
what about Jeph
just saw that Benson was promoted to Lehigh Valley
Hahahahaha.
eaton up innings
three outs a way from ANOTHER quality start
pg with the reverse curse holla
igy reverse reverse curse holla
nope...one out away from quality
quality
Jenkins? 2 for his last 40. awesome
EATon IT PG!!!
these bums need to go jump in one of those Nor Cal wildfires on the way to the airport.
shtein, i need one of those smoke masks watching this so i won't puke on my keyboard.
oh they played early today. i guess its their turn to get shut out.
Just checked to see the last time the Phils beat a decent pitcher. Carlos Zambrano in early April.
Looks like they'll face some garbage pitching the next 5-6 games though...
oh i didn't see they only had one hit. awesome... awesome.
victorino leads off and gets on.. then career backups werth, jenkins, and ruiz strike out the side. back to not watching.
Jenkins is trash.
Eaton has been pretty good. Although he got lucky a few times today because his location was off as Sarge noted in the telecast.
Maybe it is better that I will not be able to see the games this weekend...although the whole blackout the Rangers in Houston despite them playing 4 hours away angers me.
5 series in a row. Not good. What's worse is Myers is next up in the rotation.
Quote from: BigEd76 on June 26, 2008, 05:19:05 PM
Just checked to see the last time the Phils beat a decent pitcher. Carlos Zambrano in early April.
this was generally how they were last year too...and why they probably wont win any playoff games this year either
shawn chacon got released. i really thing he would be a nice addition, mostly for karmas sake.
Phils get one hit after 3 and it's fricken feliz grand slam. :-D this team is to much.
meyers just keep walking right out of the stadium and please don't come back.
anyone watching this crap? i can see why not.
Quote from: Don Ho on June 27, 2008, 09:17:58 PM
anyone watching this crap? i can see why not.
Yeah, I'm watching it, for what it's worth.
On the plus side, Utley is beginning to look more like himself again.
I watched it at the sports bar until the inning where Coste homered and then the Phils had more opportunities and Rollins grounded into a goddamn double play. I got up and left.
Brett Myers has been absolute shtein. Way to go after they put up a 5 spot to go out and give the whole farging thing right back. Yeah igy, you got me on that bet. But we already knew that. My only hope for Myers is that somehow he fixes whatever the farg is wrong and bounces back in the 2nd half.
They need pitching. They need a goddamn ass ripping from Charlie too. Get all up in their asses, Chuck. Just like in Florida a year or so ago.
To see them piss away their lead like this is maddening. Way to play front running ball, iceholes.
no hits since the fourth???? oh dear.
good job werth. that insurance runs gonna bite us in the rear.
farging bullllllshtein.
These fargbags give up a run in the bottom of the 8th; 8-6.
Werth homers to lead off the 9th. It should be tied 7-7, but no...its 8-7.
Come on you lifeless iceholes.
Well, yeah.
Werth HR, Utley ground out, Rollins gets rung up on an apparent bad call, Burrell doubles and is PR for by Jenkins who apparently doesn't score on a single to the SS by Howard. Then Dobbs smokes one to 2B - game over.
Nothing like "watching" the game on Yahoo gamecenter.
Myers and Rollins...farg the both of you.
Terrible.
1 game lead now.
observations:
1. Ranger announcers are terrible. I am really starting to like Wheels.
2. Meyers, Meyers, aahhh, Meyers just sucks. Love the fact Charlie yanked his ass out of there early.
3. I can't wait to see the National League again.
Did you just say you are starting to like Wheels?
punch yourself in the balls! NOW!
this is really getting brutal.
They really need to think about sitting Myers. The long ball and first inning blunders are outrageous.
Hamels vs. Padilla today.
So, when do we change the title to LOL @ the Phillies?
how are they stiill 5 games over and in first place?
Luck.
And the Marlins/Braves/Mets have their own troubles too.
King has to be on tonight. Hopefully Crazy Vicente goes out and drinks a bottle or two of tequila this afternoon and gets bombed.
I am really frustrated at the way they have been playing, especially Jimmy. Last night angered me like hell when he swung at the first pitch and GIDP. A flyball there and it makes a big difference.
I think Charlie is close to blowing his top like he did in Florida that year. One or two more games like this and he has to get crazy.
He's already a couple of games late with it. This damn streak is snowballing.
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on June 28, 2008, 12:04:40 AM
Did you just say you are starting to like Wheels?
punch yourself in the balls! NOW!
sorry man, it was a long week. this slump has me in a real funk. not thinking straight.
Did anyone expect them to NOT have a funky few weeks at some point in the season? I'm kind of scratching my head here over the responses on this thread. The fact that they are in this funk and STILL in first place and over .500 is huge.
You know its not going to last all year (the offensive slump). They DO, however, NEED to address Myers and Eaton...IMMEDIATELY. Oh yeah, and Gordon.
lol eaton
Quote from: SunMo on June 28, 2008, 03:16:58 PM
lol eaton
yes, Eaton lover...his horribleness needs to be addressed.
yeah, we need to get rid of all those quality starts, they suck
Myers is a problem.
The offense is wildly erratic and that is also a problem.
Eaton as a #5 starter is not a problem.
I have a problem.
All of you.
Good god they are going to blow it.
From what I gather via the gamecast and Phils MB...
Howard butchered another ball. The 8th almost fell apart and it looks like they have had some decent offense tonight.
Lidge better come in and nail it down.
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on June 28, 2008, 10:45:04 PM
From what I gather via the gamecast and Phils MB...
Howard butchered another ball. The 8th almost fell apart and it looks like they have had some decent offense tonight.
Lidge better come in and nail it down.
Not sure if "nailed down" is the proper term, but he did get through the inning and notch the save. The strikeouts of Hamilton and Bradley were clutch, though.
Only saw the 9th inning tonight. What happened?
No clue, man.
I listened to a little on the radio on the way home and followed the rest on the gamecenter.
They have to get it going. With ATL and NYM this week, now is the time to shake this funk. Interleague is done, now lets bury these homo's in the east.
hey they won a game kids, be happy
what they need is for howard, burrell and rollins to get their shtein in order.
choke has on sub .300 obp this month and ops is barely above .700.
burrell has been hitting like shtein, but is still getting on base a lot and is ops is around .900. so he just needs to get more extra base hits i suppose.
rollins is probably still hurting a bit but he needs to get on base more. wow. great analysis.
myers will probably have his spot in the rotation skipped this week.
and please let the little ms sunshine and lollipops phillygirl eaton hate patrol continue. hes only had 4 non-quality starts this season and that is just unacceptable for a 5 starter. he sucks. burn him.
If they skip Myers, do they push King up to Thursday? He has to pitch the Mets series, doesn't he?
Do they bring someone up? And who gets sent out for that to happen? Or do they start Durbin and let him go 3, then bring in Condrey for 3 and see what happens?
They just pitched Durbin today in the 8th, a normal spot for Gordon. Not sure if he was unavailable or if Cholly has taken the role away from him. Either way, it appears that Durbin is staying in the bullpen.
I'd shut Myers down until after the all-star break and call up another bullpen arm. If you push everyone up a day with the off day, yes Cole misses the Mets series, but then you are talking about scrapping your way through 2 starts with Madson firing out 50 pitches or something to begin the game. It might work and it could definitely do Myers some good to take a few weeks off and basically begin a brand new season after the break.
Did Durbin look shaky? Well...since I didnt see it but I guess the error (ruled as a hit) for Howard and Coste's CI had something to do with it.
I am all for letting Myers chill. I think he has dead-arm and its stemming from the injury last year plus throwing a lot of a reliever. He needs to be sat down for a bit.
If they do DL him; does Happ come up? Do they pull the trigger on Carrasco? Benson is not ready yet. Even if he goes out and throws well today in Lehigh he is not ML ready.
But knowing the Phillies they will bring him up and he'll get pimped.
i too am waiting for him to implode at any time but eaton has six QS's in his last seven games...pg reverse curse FTW
and the reason youre seeing these kinds of responses pg is because they have not just been in a "skid" but they have been beyond bad in it...secondly it shows that they are nowhere near being a world series winning type team...no one cares anymore that they are better than florida or atlanta or the mess...and its not "huge" that they are...they should be better than those teams...we all wanna see a team that we believe can win a playoff game and then a ring
the good part is no one in the nl appears to be that good. the best team, so far, is the cubs. and me thinks they'll find a way to choke like they always do. so even if the phillies dont have a world series worthy team, they can still actually make it, and like the cardinals a few years ago, perhaps get hot at the right time.
Quote from: Geowhizzer on June 28, 2008, 11:25:26 PM
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on June 28, 2008, 10:45:04 PM
From what I gather via the gamecast and Phils MB...
Howard butchered another ball. The 8th almost fell apart and it looks like they have had some decent offense tonight.
Lidge better come in and nail it down.
Not sure if "nailed down" is the proper term, but he did get through the inning and notch the save. The strikeouts of Hamilton and Bradley were clutch, though.
Only saw the 9th inning tonight. What happened?
Durbin stunk
single (picked off)
ground out.........so there were 2 outs and nobody on
grounder to Howard gets kicked into foul territory....ruled a single
catcher's interference
single
bases loaded single
Romero comes in....
bases loaded walk
full count to Saltaralphmacchio and he swung at ball 4. he was so pissed he broke his bat Bo style
Because of that long inning, Lidge had to face the tough part of the lineup, and it didn't help when the #9 hitter doubled to lead off the 9th. But Lidge settled down and was great after that...
Phils get the rare 6pm Sunday start time since they don't have day games in Arlington during the summer
Quote from: MDS on June 29, 2008, 11:16:14 AM
the good part is no one in the nl appears to be that good. the best team, so far, is the cubs. and me thinks they'll find a way to choke like they always do. so even if the phillies dont have a world series worthy team, they can still actually make it, and like the cardinals a few years ago, perhaps get hot at the right time.
youre going by reg season record which is meaningless...there are a multitude of teams the phillies could/would play in the playoffs whose pitching would lock them down...the phillies lineup is fun for the occasional 20 run regular season game but when facing solid pitching night in and out in the playoffs they will be overmatched...plus they have a less than zero chance of beating whatever al team they face in the world series were they to make it that far
@ geo romey or whoever else has the extra innings package...im guessing the phils arent on it today since its a 6pm start?
Quote from: ice grillin you on June 29, 2008, 02:09:43 PM
Quote from: MDS on June 29, 2008, 11:16:14 AM
the good part is no one in the nl appears to be that good. the best team, so far, is the cubs. and me thinks they'll find a way to choke like they always do. so even if the phillies dont have a world series worthy team, they can still actually make it, and like the cardinals a few years ago, perhaps get hot at the right time.
youre going by reg season record which is meaningless...there are a multitude of teams the phillies could/would play in the playoffs whose pitching would lock them down...the phillies lineup is fun for the occasional 20 run regular season game but when facing solid pitching night in and out in the playoffs they will be overmatched...plus they have a less than zero chance of beating whatever al team they face in the world series were they to make it that far
@ geo romey or whoever else has the extra innings package...im guessing the phils arent on it today since its a 6pm start?
I don't believe it's on.
Its not on EI....
But I luck out because its on FSSW because Houston is playing Boston now.
But I am going golfing.
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on June 29, 2008, 02:56:00 PM
Its not on EI....
But I luck out because its on FSSW because Houston is playing Boston now.
But I am going golfing.
(http://archive.gamespy.com/fargo/february03/hollywood/caddyshack.jpg)
Marlins scored 2 in the 9th to win
Mets won 3-1
Braves lost 1-0
need a win to stay 2 games up
MUST WIN JUNE GAME
Bums
Brutal.....couldn't win one series against the American League :boom
The Phils get 3 games in Atlanta (will miss Hudson and face 3 righties) before a homestand against the Mets, Cardinals and DBacks
The Marlins get 3 at home vs Washington before a trip to Colorado, San Diego and Los Angeles
The Mets have an 8-game trip through St. Louis and Philly this week
The Braves get the Phils and Astros at home this week
I'll actually get to see the BPS against the Cardinals on July 10. Fools better be on that game!
Wife and children will be in tow. Wife already has instructions to take daughter and son to the playground if needed and let Daddy watch the game. >:D
when does training camp start?
3 weeks
We watched the soccer final and then asked the bartender to turn the Phillies on. No luck. Better off, I guess.
Stinking bums.
^^^^^
when do we sign Xavi?
Quote from: MDS on June 29, 2008, 01:02:34 AM
I'd shut Myers down until after the all-star break and call up another bullpen arm.
absolutely.
Mets lost 7-1 to Lohse
Hanley saves the Marlins with another 9th-inning HR, then Willingham wins it in the 10th.....1/2 game back
The Phillies had such a bad June that they stopped gaining games during byes!
Myers is an Iron Pig (http://www.philly.com/philly/hp/news_update/20080701_Phils_demote_Myers_to_Triple_A.html)
Quote from: Wingspan on July 01, 2008, 04:38:25 PM
Myers is an Iron Pig (http://www.philly.com/philly/hp/news_update/20080701_Phils_demote_Myers_to_Triple_A.html)
About damn time. I'll set the over/under at him giving up 2 HRs tomorrow night.
from ace to iron pig in 2 months. go team.
As the resident Myers fan-boy, I agree with this. He needs to straighten himself out and the big league roster is no place to do it. I don't care if he goes down there and get shelled the first few starts, just get the location back and work on the mechanics. Once his mechanics come back, the velocity will. And for him to accept is big too. He's not acting like a petulant kid.
JA Happ will probably get the call. I would prefer Carrasco.
June is over asslips, how about winning some ball games starting tonight?
they will now go on a 79 game winning streak.
Read on the Phils MB that;
1. Eskin said the Phils offered Myers, Jason Donald and Carlos Carrasco to Cleveland for CC and were denied.
2. Hamels was bumped up to Thursday and whomever the Myers replacement is will pitch Friday against Joe and the Mets.
Eskin knows shtein about the inner workings of the Phillies. I wouldn't believe anything he spews about them.
I like the move with Myers. Curious to see who they bring up.
J.A. Happ.
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on July 01, 2008, 06:55:31 PM
Read on the Phils MB that;
1. Eskin said the Phils offered Myers, Jason Donald and Carlos Carrasco to Cleveland for CC and were denied.
2. Hamels was bumped up to Thursday and whomever the Myers replacement is will pitch Friday against Joe and the Mets.
Carrasco and Myers is a heavy deal.
If the Phillies offered that deal two months ago there isn't a person here who wouldn't have called for Gillick's scalp.
The Phillies are already winning 5-0.
June swoon, July boon!
June is the new April.
i'm surprised geoff jenkins remembers how to run the bases. like which way to go after you actually hit the ball.
Quote from: L-ong-B-each-I-ggle on July 01, 2008, 08:36:57 PM
i'm surprised geoff jenkins remembers how to run the bases. like which way to go after you actually hit the ball.
Did he reach on an error?
him being taught to play baseball was an error. but.. he has not one but two hits tonight. he had 8 in all of june.
Quote from: FastFreddie on July 01, 2008, 08:38:26 PM
Quote from: L-ong-B-each-I-ggle on July 01, 2008, 08:36:57 PM
i'm surprised geoff jenkins remembers how to run the bases. like which way to go after you actually hit the ball.
Did he reach on an error?
Bloop single over the SS head. Howard scored.
Kendrick's having another nice outing.
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on July 01, 2008, 06:55:31 PM
Read on the Phils MB that;
1. Eskin said the Phils offered Myers, Jason Donald and Carlos Carrasco to Cleveland for CC and were denied.
2. Hamels was bumped up to Thursday and whomever the Myers replacement is will pitch Friday against Joe and the Mets.
Assuming Sabathia would be re-signed I'd do that deal in a heartbeat. CC/Hamels/Moyer would make for a nice postseason rotation. I'll be at Sundays game, 11 rows from 1st base.
Think about it like this:
Myers
Hamels
Kendrick
Happ
Corrasco
Or:
Sabathia
Hamels
Kendrick
Happ
?
Which one you want
Quote from: MDS on July 01, 2008, 08:49:47 PM
Think about it like this:
Myers
Hamels
Kendrick
Happ
Corrasco
Or:
Sabathia
Hamels
Kendrick
Happ
?
Which one you want
Moyer die from a stroke?
Before next year? Maybe. He's old.
I'm talking 1-2 years down the line. Moyer I believe is done after this year. Maybe.
really give chipper nothing to hit please.
and.. wow utley.
lol.. walk victorino to pitch to utley. he gets a chance to redeem himself on that horrible error.
edit: not.
how on earth did flash get a 1-2-3 inning?
flash does OK when he needs to hold a save in the 8th; otherwise he sucks
RJ Swindle (lefty reliever) was called up from LV
So, I guess Durbin is now a starter?
The Phillies have three players with more home runs than anyone in the AL.
and the al has about eight teams that are better than the phillies
Quote from: ice grillin you on July 02, 2008, 10:28:24 AM
and the al has about eight ten teams that are better than the phillies
Eaton 5 innings 5 hits 1 run. Not bad.
Durbin in. Oh shtein.
Quote from: Don Ho on July 02, 2008, 09:05:42 PM
Eaton 5 innings 5 hits 1 run. Not bad.
Durbin in. Oh shtein.
Good exchange - 2 outs for a run. Now get #3 and strand the runner.
Durbin pitches tonight (and does great)
Carrasco gets scratched from his start due to tightness in his throwing shoulder
So its gotta be Happ on Friday.
ANd on a side note, if they planned on dealing Carrasco this likely puts a clamp on those plans.
yes, i 'll take that. bases loaded and no outs had disaster written all over it. good job durbin.
another fairly solid start for eaton. god damn these average 5th starters.
Myers tonight: 5 IP, 5 hits, 3 runs (all earned), 2 BB, 6 K, WP, approx 100 pitches
Quote from: BigEd76 on July 02, 2008, 09:28:19 PM
Myers tonight: 5 IP, 5 hits, 3 runs (all earned), 2 BB, 6 K, WP, approx 100 pitches
and this was against Scranton Babtist Pre-School?
yup, and unless LV comes back, he'll lose again
Quote from: BigEd76 on July 02, 2008, 09:38:34 PM
yup, and unless LV comes back, he'll lose again
He's been the Phils' most consistent starter.
thats really quite sad. wife beater joke.
Quote from: MDS on July 02, 2008, 09:49:59 PM
thats really quite sad. wife beater joke.
As long as he stops beating the Phillies, I'm OK with that.
Pigs lose. Myers will try Reading next.... :P
its so adorable watching howard try to play defense.
i just crapped my pants. howard :boom
Quote from: Don Ho on July 02, 2008, 10:22:30 PM
i just crapped my pants. howard :boom
If Lidge somehow gets out of this he should get credit for two innings pitched.
holy **************** first pitch to Teixeira
whew 7-3 final
Geo,
I am getting way to old for this stuff. man that was made way to easy for the braves at the end.
Quote from: BigEd76 on July 02, 2008, 10:25:18 PM
holy **************** first pitch to Teixeira
whew 7-3 final
i think i almost felt what it was like to have a heart attack as that thing left the bat.
Quote from: Don Ho on July 02, 2008, 10:26:56 PM
Geo,
I am getting way to old for this stuff. man that was made way to easy for the braves at the end.
I'm just glad it didn't get to Chipper Jones. He was on deck. I wouldn't have been able to watch.
I freaking hate Chipper Jones.
No one in the division is >.500 in their last ten games. And if you think that's bad, check out the train wreck that is the NL West.
ace
(http://d.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/ap/20080703/capt.ecc6a1a986cf4942a96297cebb40b902.phillies_myers_baseball_pabb106.jpg) (http://d.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/ap/20080703/capt.65ffb47a45fb4d7898b5925de4946647.phillies_myers_baseball_pabb107.jpg)
Quote from: Geowhizzer on July 02, 2008, 10:36:26 PM
Quote from: Don Ho on July 02, 2008, 10:26:56 PM
Geo,
I am getting way to old for this stuff. man that was made way to easy for the braves at the end.
I'm just glad it didn't get to Chipper Jones. He was on deck. I wouldn't have been able to watch.
I freaking hate Chipper Jones.
Wasn't it Chipper that hit the 2nd grounder that Howard fumbled?
Speaking of Howard:
(http://static.baseballtoaster.com/blogs/u/cardboardgods/2008/409/0001/buckner_360.jpg)
Yeah, McCann was on deck I think.
Howard's defense is straight trash. I mean, come the farg on dude.
Where can I get a Myers Iron Pigs jersey?
Quote from: SD_Eagle on July 02, 2008, 11:11:19 PM
Quote from: Geowhizzer on July 02, 2008, 10:36:26 PM
Quote from: Don Ho on July 02, 2008, 10:26:56 PM
Geo,
I am getting way to old for this stuff. man that was made way to easy for the braves at the end.
I'm just glad it didn't get to Chipper Jones. He was on deck. I wouldn't have been able to watch.
I freaking hate Chipper Jones.
Wasn't it Chipper that hit the 2nd grounder that Howard fumbled?
I think you're right. He'd probably find a way to hit a game-winning homer, even if it wasn't his turn up. Cholly wouldn't catch it, anyway.
Guess what was 15 years ago tonight
4:40am (http://www.baseball-reference.com/boxes/PHI/PHI199307022.shtml)
Quote from: BigEd76 on July 02, 2008, 11:38:30 PM
Guess what was 15 years ago tonight
4:40am (http://www.baseball-reference.com/boxes/PHI/PHI199307022.shtml)
I was a newlywed. I'm getting old...
seriously when are they gonna do something about eaton?!???!?!!?!
btw anyone know how many pitches that lidge texiera at bat was...that was one of the best non big situation at bats ive ever seen...just awesome on both sides...texiera fought off numerous large sliders and lidge after throwing a ton of pitches in a back to back situation sat him down on a ridiculously ill pitch to end the game...just great stuff all around
i dont know but according wheels lidge was "tremendous."
Quote from: BigEd76 on July 02, 2008, 09:28:19 PM
Myers tonight: 5 IP, 5 hits, 3 runs (all earned), 2 BB, 6 K, WP, approx 100 pitches
Recap of his night from ESPN (http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=3471827)
It's really getting annoying how Eaton continues to give these Bums a chance to win.
Quote from: ice grillin you on July 03, 2008, 12:46:00 AM
seriously when are they gonna do something about eaton?!???!?!!?!
ooh yay. He got his first win in what? 5-6 games?
yay him. ::)
lol
Quote from: PhillyGirl on July 03, 2008, 08:44:25 AM
Quote from: ice grillin you on July 03, 2008, 12:46:00 AM
seriously when are they gonna do something about eaton?!???!?!!?!
ooh yay. He got his first win in what? 5-6 games?
yay him. ::)
I guess it's his fault the team has given him shtein for run support. He can pitch like Cy Young, if the team doesn't produce runs he can't produce wins.
FYI during this rough stretch the Phils just went through, in his last 7 starts he has a 3.75 ERA and opponents are only batting .239 agaisnt him. Give the man some credit.
As long as iceholes like IGY make posts like that, I'll defend my stance against him.
Earlier this season, when he started off strong, I gave him a ton of credit. I said he was proving me wrong. And then oops! It was right back to regularly scheduled Eaton programming.
He's helped this team MAYBE as much as he's hurt them this year. OOh yay. He breaks even. Maybe.
I see the Eaton hate has reached unprecedentedly retarded proportions in here.
:-D
In his last eight starts he's given up more than three earned runs just once. That's not fifth starter production; it's third starter.
stubborn sally still sits solidly sulking sillilly
lol
Just announced on DNL: J.A. Happ will get the start Friday vs. the Mets
I expect a Myers-like result.
almost one year ago, also vs the Mets (http://www.baseball-reference.com/boxes/PHI/PHI200706300.shtml)
that series sucked ass........almost got swept at home in a 4-gamer
choke dawg with another opposite-field HR....3-0 in the 6th
Quote from: BigEd76 on July 03, 2008, 08:40:23 PM
choke dawg with another opposite-field HR....3-0 in the 6th
Feliz makes it 4-0.
Cole leaves with one out to go after losing his shutout.....125 pitches
....and Gordon comes in, throws one pitch and gets a save :-D
SWEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEP
I believe the logic there was even though Cole arm's about to fall off, he should face the lefties/turn Chipper and Tex around instead of putting Gordon in. Not a bad idea to simply get the win, but Cole is a fragile little girl, and Gordon is probably decent enough to get 3 outs without giving up 4 runs. Probably.
Quote from: MDS on July 03, 2008, 10:05:19 PM
I believe the logic there was even though Cole arm's about to fall off, he should face the lefties/turn Chipper and Tex around instead of putting Gordon in. Not a bad idea to simply get the win, but Cole is a fragile little girl, and Gordon is probably decent enough to get 3 outs without giving up 4 runs. Probably.
The only reason that Hamels was still in the game was because he had a possible shutout. Simple as that.
how friggin bad is the national league (east)
2.5 up again. Thanks Marlins.
Quote from: BigEd76 on July 04, 2008, 12:07:14 AM
2.5 up again. Thanks Marlins.
Gregg flat out choked that game. Had a lead in the 11th inning. Two walks, throws the ball away on a bunt, then gives up a two-run single to lose.
More watery corn-studded shtein flowing out of Billy Wagner's face...
Quote"We've been doing them favors for a year and a half," Mets closer Billy Wagner said. "It's about time they hit a bump."
there better be some met fans ass kicking in stands
Quote from: Rome on July 04, 2008, 08:07:26 AM
More watery corn-studded shtein flowing out of Billy Wagner's face...
Quote"We've been doing them favors for a year and a half," Mets closer Billy Wagner said. "It's about time they hit a bump."
Jesus. They'd better sweep these fargs.
Happ comes in against Johan Santana and gets a 4.2 IP no decision...couldn't really expect much more then that.
Victorino gets the 2 out bottom of the 9th game winning single, Pedro scores.
I'm going to go consume now.
well it was wet. but i sat 4 rows up 1st base side and only paid $20 to get in. but jeez mets fans are trashy and obnoxious. i get the feeling the go to the games for the sole purpose of trying to start shtein and purposely acting like a bunch of asses, over cheering and ignorantly getting out of their seats when a the ump calls ball 3. farg them.
4 in a row and a sweet victory against those NY homo's.
I loved the hats and the t-shirts they showed on the tv tonight. I wonder if they have 'em in Modell's yet? I'll have to check before I catch my flight home on Sunday.
Marlins lose to the Rockies in an absolute slug fest. They were up 13-4 and lose 18-17. :-D
Happ pitched well. He should have struck out Wright on that pitch but Mr Umpire blew it.
Saw on BBTN that CC could be dealt before his next start with Cleveland to Milwaukee for some stud OF prospect.
Milwaukee and the Dodgers are the most serious candidates.
what t shirts are you talking about
that marlins rockies game was insane...i saw the ticker show the marlins up like 12 runs then what seemed like ten minutes later it was a one run game
I can't find them on the Phils website, which is odd because they are already selling the hats. Basically they are all blue with that american flag P logo on the front.
Old Man Moyer has to come strapped tonight. Hopefully they give him the corners and he holds them in check.
(http://mlb.imageg.net/graphics/product_images/pMLB2-4837110dt.jpg)
All 30 teams wore them. The Frenchies had this one:
(http://mlb.imageg.net/graphics/product_images/pMLB2-4837397dt.jpg)
(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3015/2638371021_e1698fa3c4.jpg?v=0)
thats a flag made out of phillies hats
also easy ontario is not a french province, the people there are actually legit human beings, there are not dirty frogs.
Real Canadians hate French Canadians more than Americans do.
How's this meltdown by the bullpen?
Nice partial birth abortion by Romero & Gordon last night. The only thing more painful to watch than the game was the hillbillies and roid ragers battling it out for televisions at the Pub.
:puke
press conference at 11....Lidge signed an extension :yay
Quote from: BigEd76 on July 06, 2008, 10:50:59 AM
press conference at 11....Lidge signed an extension :yay
thats great news, he's been stellar
3 yrs, $37.5M, club option for 2012 ($11.5M)
choke is dreaming if he thinks the phils are paying him now
Quote from: Rome on July 06, 2008, 08:00:57 AM
Nice partial birth abortion by Romero & Gordon last night. The only thing more painful to watch than the game was the hillbillies and roid ragers battling it out for televisions at the Pub.
:puke
Gordon needs to be done.
Can't really get pissed at the BP overall though, that was their first real blown game as of late. They've been unreal all season.
NICE to see that Lidge signed. :yay I will eat much crow on my "he's done" statement before the season and spring training. He proven me very wrong. Happily enough. :D
choke has more RBIs than hits. He might end this season with some of the weirdest numbers ever.
lights out and ace all stars. patty in the fan vote thing.
and everyone will forget about it in three days.
when do they get to play the braves again
a series or two after the break i believe. easy has the sked memorized hell know.
end of july here
1-0 Mets, bottom of the 8th, 1 out, 1st and 2nd, choke dawg up
rain delay
it was a rhetorical question farg faces
Watching Romero, who has not been able to throw a farging strike lately, and Gordon who has been off for awhile too, last night was frustrating as hell.
I see the bats are quiet today. At least I will get to see the end of the game as soon as the rain stops.
Great news on Lidge.
Vote for Burrell, he deserves it. After blasting him early last year, this guy has gotten it done and I hope they re-sign him.
Geofffffffff Jenkins is garbage.
farg burrell...they have enough rbis in the lineup where they dont need his awful fielding and hideous baserunning...they need to start reworking this lineup by getting some strikeouts out of it and getting more speed and contact in...id much rather have the kind of outfielders the twins usually go for...a 15-25 homer 75-85 rbi guy who can run field and make contact whether to move guys around or drive them in...the phillies lineup has been fundementally flawed for a long time now and they arent going anywhere in the postseason until it changes
There is no way the Phillies should re-sign Burrell. He's a liability in the field and in very short order he's going to be unable to play there every day. He's got "DH" written all over him (as does Dawg). It's bad enough that they have one guy on the field who should be designated hitter but having two and signing one of them to another long term deal is flat out stupid.
They aren't going anywhere in the PS until they get pitching.
Burrell has cut down on his K's somewhat and his ability to draw walks is nice. His defense is okay and his arm is above average. With Victorino playing CF you can afford to have a lead-foot in left.
Want to cut down on K's? Get in Choke's head and tell that guy to not whiff 220 time a year. Its scary good to think about what he would do if he made more contact. He's at what, 76 rbi now? Hitting .220? If he's hitting .280 he has over 100 by now.
And Rollins' dumbass needs to get away from that uppercut swing and back to the swing he had last year. Every time he comes up now I think he is going to pop out or fly.
You can win with Burrell and Howard in there doing what they do now if the other role players can play fundamentals and get bunts down, situational hit , etc.
Speaking of Burrell...Charle pulling him in the 7th last night was dumber than shtein. You want to yank him in the 9th for defense? Fine. But in the 7th? And when his spot came up again in the 8th they had to PH Ruiz.
Charlie's a farging buffoon. I know everyone loves him like the retarded grandfather who makes everyone laugh at parties when he farts and tells dirty jokes, but enough is enough.
The team needs a legitimate tactician not Elmer Fudd.
but then the clubhouse won't be the funnest daycare around!
to win a world series you need more pitching and hitting but to win in the national league playoffs they have to change their offense...last year was the perfect example...when this team faces playoff pitching they are gonna be locked down everytime
bottom line is re signing burrell would be dumb as hell....theres probably 25 outfielders that will be available this offseason that can improve LF for the phillies...and i wouldnt have a problem at all trading choke especially because he has value in his offense...burrell is a 25 homer 95 rbi guy in a bandbox that is a liability in every other facet of the game...plus hes in his 30's...what is so special about him that would make you even entertain the thought of resigning him...at least choke puts up monster offensive numbers
I'm not saying give him killer money. I would like to see a list of FA's this year; maybe you are right. Depending on who is available maybe they should not get him. But I would lean towards keeping him.
after a 3-hour rain delay, the Phils fail to score again :boom
WERTH!!!!!!!!!
farg you Wags.
2 outs 2 strikes and he bombs one!
Jayson Werth is God.
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on July 06, 2008, 07:47:38 PM
WERTH!!!
farg you Wags.
2 outs 2 strikes and he bombs one!
Too soon to point out that if not for lidge, this game would be won?
the hillbilly never fails to deliver
Quote from: Wingspan on July 06, 2008, 07:50:28 PM
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on July 06, 2008, 07:47:38 PM
WERTH!
farg you Wags.
2 outs 2 strikes and he bombs one!
Too soon to point out that if not for lidge, this game would be won?
Or if they would have scored in the 8th too...
farging Jimmy...swung at ball 3. Come on.
Sure..that too.
Nice 10th from Madson.
Time to end it, fargers.
Fernando f'ing Tatis :boom
its just maddening at how since werths homer just about every single batter has tried to hit a home run...the team IQ of the phillies is in the negative numbers...they are a bunch of meatheads and it all starts with the bumbling idiot of a manager
they're all slow as hell too except for Rollins, Victorino and Werth...maybe Utley...
Mets take 2 of 3 w/ Eaton vs Pedro tomorrow night
Nice job again by the bullpen.
You could tell Durbin didn't have it today. He was off. Bad time for the BP to go in the tank just as the bats go cold again.
I really cannot stand Jenkins. Watching Ruiz makes me feel like David Bell is a Phillie again.
I really hate watching this team play some times.
yup slower than dirt and strikeout machines...the front office will never change that tho...they are golden as long as they continue to sell out the money pit and are able to shape a fanbase made out of dumb asses who care more about home runs dollar dogs and chanting "mvp" for chase utley in june while hes in a 6 for 1000 slump than they do about winning a title
Bums.
Wonder want the Phils record is when they score four less runs this season.....I gotta imagine it's pretty zesty.
Bums.
Not sure, but they have been shut out 5 times already.
iceholes.
not sure their record but i believe they have scored three or less runs 35 times this year
burrell doesnt make an out over 40% of the time he comes to the plate. yea hes slower than igy but his bat more than makes up for it. he lost 2 at bats in extras today because chuckles pinch ran for him, unnecessarily, with ge off. maybe his bat makes the difference there. last night, pinch running for him get the phils a run (no way he scores on that werth hit). depending on the situation, you can run for him. but today it was just so incredibly stupid.
what they need to do is start werth and bat him second. he is an on base machine and a lot better than jenkins. put hacktorino down in the lineup with pedro phillies and the out machine that is carlos ruiz. also playing dobbsy more at third couldnt hurt.
Gordon to the DL
Swindle is back
Worst rain I've ever seen, everytime I said 'it can't rain harder than this' it would. While everyone else sat dry in the concourse my Brother and I stayed out in the stands and got drenched. Not entirely sure why but after the first 10 minutes it didn't really bother me.
During the rain delay one of the fans ran on the field and did a head first dive onto the tarp. Then he ran in the black tube the tarp was rolled up. Popped out the other side a few minutes later and was taken away.
Saw a Mets fan in Ashburn Alley with a torn shirt and a police escort. Got my steak, saw him again on the way back with a bandage on his head. Tried to snap a picture with my phone but couldn't. Speaking of Mets fans I thought their turnout was rather weak as compared to their usual turnout. Only saw 2 or 3 in our section (112). Didn't really notice them too much.
Sat in the seats next to the dugout during the RD, once it started to let up some funhole usher came down and said we couldn't sit there. She told this guy that was hanging with us to leave or she'd kick him out. He said you wouldn't kick me out after I just sat 3 hours in this and she went and got security and had him thrown out. Power trippin bitch. I hope she got in an accident on the way home. Dude resurfaced on the other side of the field 10 minutes later. They probably kicked him out and he just re-entered through McFaddens.
Werth's HR was awesome. farg you Wagner. I couldn't see the ball because of the weather but knew it was gone from the fans in the bleachers reaction.
Someone please find me a "Did Read, But Wish I Didn't" smilie.
Quote from: FastFreddie on July 07, 2008, 11:47:53 AM
Someone please find me a "Did Read, But Wish I Didn't" smilie.
i'll just take a picture of myself the next time i read one of your posts
Quote from: FastFreddie on July 07, 2008, 11:47:53 AM
Someone please find me a "Did Read, But Wish I Didn't" smilie.
(http://www.flyersphans.com/forums/images/smilies/new/killme.gif)
Best I could do. This is aka the munson smiley
Quote from: SunMo on July 07, 2008, 11:52:58 AM
Quote from: FastFreddie on July 07, 2008, 11:47:53 AM
Someone please find me a "Did Read, But Wish I Didn't" smilie.
i'll just take a picture of myself the next time i read one of your posts
Keep going to the feedback forum and asking for an ignore feature. Sus and G_F are simply waiting for more people to ask before they institute it.
saw this one during the rain delay...
(http://oceancountybillboard.com/upload_img/1134411585.jpg)
Quote from: dis12 on July 07, 2008, 04:27:33 PM
saw this one during the rain delay...
(http://oceancountybillboard.com/upload_img/1134411585.jpg)
damm! Get me one of those.
Atta boy, Phillies!!
5-0 going into the bottom of the 2nd.
Bad call by the ump in the 1st cost them a run. Other than that they have shtein themselves.
And CBP sounds like farging Shea stadium.
Just another one of Eaton's quality starts!
EVERYBODY HITS! WOOHOOO!
:-D
Did Eaton butt in line in front of you at CVS or something?
What is Greg Dobbs doing out there?
Goddamn. 7-0 now.
Way to come out and bury this team. These motherfargers are playing like pureed shtein.
BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
8-0.
BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO....ah wtf :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D
If the Phillies rally and win I'll walk back to Pittsburgh.
Quote from: Rome on July 07, 2008, 08:15:12 PM
If the Phillies rally and win I'll walk back to Pittsburgh.
i'll swim from honolulu
1 measly hit. joke.
oh my god the #5 starter got rocked for 2nd time this year. and its only july!
(http://philadelphia.phillies.mlb.com/images/2008/07/06/YBnRlZSN.jpg)
BURN HIM!!!!!!!!!
10-7 :paranoid
what happened to utley? why is bruntlett playing 2nd.
charlie manuel happened to utley
it was 10-2 so Utley needed rest
now it's 10-7 with Howard up as the tying run :-D
i kind of figured that from the retard.
did anyone really think howard was going to get a hit there?
down to the last strike, Feliz singles up the middle, Victorino scores, Beltran throws to 3rd to get Bruntlett and the ball gets away, so Bruntlett scores....10-9 :-D
....then Werth flies out to end it :boom :boom :boom :boom
Losing 3 of 4 at home to the Mets f'ing sucks. They're only 2.5 out of 1st now
cock tease
Bums
Who knew that Pedro's farging rbi single would be the game winner?
Jesus christ.
Way to choke on it, iceholes.
Carlos Ruiz was up with the bases loaded and 1 out. Guess what happened.
he's such a f'ing joke it's not funny
Getting Bengie Molina from SF shouldn't be the hard. Or even calling up Jaramillo. Why not.
teams a joke easy
Stop it.
Quote from: BigEd76 on July 08, 2008, 07:39:41 PM
Carlos Ruiz was up with the bases loaded and 1 out. Guess what happened.
GRAND SALAMI?!? :crazy
Imagine that, more RISP and no one getting a hit.
I want to smash Jimmy's hands with a hammer so he cannot pick up a bat for awhile. Pop up city, baaaaaby!
And Ankiel goes deep on King now.
Useless farging losers.
and Beltran hit a 3-run HR off Lincecum
METS GONNA BE 1.5 BACK SON
mets are a better team than the phillies just as they were better last year...the difference this year is that the mets couldnt possibly have a meltdown of historic porportions again....or can they?
whatever "it" is they don't have it.
if they were going to rely on the offense like last year they needed to keep the offense the same.. not lose rowand and add nothing.
if they were going to rely more on pitching they needed to add a starter. myers was not it.
and now we have this.
thank god ruiz isn't going to bat.
THANK YOU
why not use ge off here? waste him instead of dobbsy.
now they've resorted to howard trying to bunt his way on.
franklin getting a save was good for my fantasy team. so eat it.
what about my monster deal son
Quote from: L-ong-B-each-I-ggle on July 08, 2008, 09:22:42 PM
now they've resorted to howard trying to bunt his way on.
truly the WTF? of the week. howard bunting in that situation was beyond priceless.
This team just isn't that good. Even with a solid #2 starter they have no shot to win the WS. None.
I'd be sellers at this point, not buyers.
What a steaming pile of trash this team is.
They can't hit with runners on and it reminds me of the past several years and is extremely frustrating.
Rollins...what the farg.
Double plays all over the place. Ruiz is an abortion at the plate.
All this offense and they can't produce squat. The amount of DPs tonight was a disgrace. I'd really consider bringing Marson up from the minors, dude is tearing it up in AA. Who cares if he's ready or not, he can't be any worse than Chooch.
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on July 08, 2008, 10:06:13 PM
What a steaming pile of trash this team is.
They can't hit with runners on and it reminds me of the past several years and is extremely frustrating.
Rollins...what the farg.
Double plays all over the place. Ruiz is an abortion at the plate.
almost word for word how i "summed" up the game to my neighbor. Cards fan who missed the score and he asked me what happened after i told him hammels only gave up 3 hits over 7 innings. I think i used a few more "F" bombs.
tonight's game is on ESPN for the out-of-towners. Rain delayed it to 7:45
that fat farg andy reids daughter just sang the national anthem.
shes not fat...garrett knocked her up
no she aint, her dad is, though. god he is such a stubborn icehole.
how much of a travesty is this gonna be when the cardinal bullpen shuts the phillies down for nine innings
it was a given the second Mulder came out
This team makes me want to murder someone.
These fargbags have 1 hit.
ONE GODDAMN HIT!
Against Brad, last man in the bullpen, Thompson.
Happ is throwing well though.
Happ has a three hit shutout through five. So, of course, expect Cholly to summon the bullpen very soon.
And LOL at 1 hit for the Phillies.
CHOOOOOOOOOOOOOCH!
thats gotta be his first hit this month
guess two runs would have been way to many to get in one inning
so the phillies have 1 run...
weird
And now Utley gets a single.
Typical.
your face is typical
for a fag
You say the sweetest things, Lover.
elton brand was born the same year as ryan howard...hes 8 months older
Brand can't hit a curve ball either.
CHOKE DOG
Quote from: MDS on July 09, 2008, 10:35:55 PM
CHOKE DOG
!!
The second he went down 0-2 I went to take a leak thinking he'd whiff.
Feliz Navidad
4-2 Bums
Lidge vs Pujols with Pujols being the tying run
Wings theory of shellshockness is being tested
Holy shtein, they won.
Lidge was gassing it up there at 96+.
Happ threw pretty well.
Congrats to Ruiz for his second hit in a month.
Quote from: Rome on July 09, 2008, 09:40:04 PM
Brand can't hit a curve ball either.
Neither can Jesus Christ.
Alyssa Milano will be at the phils game tonight
she was on wip the other day talking about it and sounding sexy as hell
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Quote from: Seabiscuit36 on July 10, 2008, 08:56:12 AM
Alyssa Milano will be at the phils game tonight
which player is she banging now?
anyone, she's pretty easy from what i hear
so she went through several Marlins and now she's going through several Dodgers huh. So why's she at the Phillies/Cardinals game? Scouting Shane and Ryan?
she used to be a hockey groupie...i remember way back in the day...maybe 93?...i know she wasnt very old...she was banging wayne mcbean...that was her forray into athlete cock...i guess now shes running thru baseball
to promote her womens mlb fashion line of clothes and jewelry...she will be at the phillies store and if you buy one of her items you get to meet her
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on July 10, 2008, 12:32:28 AM
Holy shtein, they won.
Lidge was gassing it up there at 96+.
Happ threw pretty well.
Congrats to Ruiz for his second hit in a month.
Lidge was definitely bringing some heat last night, but he also seemed to struggle with his control too. He got the save though and that's all that counts.
You can't really ask for Happ to do much more than he has so far in his 3 or 4 starts. He's been pretty solid, worked himself out of a couple jams and gave the Phils a chance to win. Too bad he got a nd out of it. He was hustling his ass off to cover 1st on that ball the Howard fielded too (which Howard make a great toss on as well).
Quote from: ice grillin you on July 10, 2008, 10:38:35 AM
she used to be a hockey groupie...i remember way back in the day...maybe 93?...i know she wasnt very old...she was banging wayne mcbean...that was her forray into athlete cock...i guess now shes running thru baseball
to promote her womens mlb fashion line of clothes and jewelry...she will be at the phillies store and if you buy one of her items you get to meet her
yesterday she said she was dating a guy who was totally anonymous so i don't think she's dating any athletes
Dating and farging are two completely different things.
Quote from: Sgt PSN on July 10, 2008, 10:39:52 AM
Lidge was definitely bringing some heat last night, but he also seemed to struggle with his control too. He got the save though and that's all that counts.
Anyone know why he was blowing on his hands so much last night? I don't know if i'd ever seen him do that before...it looked as if he did it more after throwing into the dirt.
Quote from: ice grillin you on July 10, 2008, 10:38:35 AM
she used to be a hockey groupie...i remember way back in the day...maybe 93?...i know she wasnt very old...she was banging wayne mcbean...that was her forray into athlete cock...i guess now shes running thru baseball
to promote her womens mlb fashion line of clothes and jewelry...she will be at the phillies store and if you buy one of her items you get to meet her
My Uncle and Grandpa were doing a car show at the civic center and she was there signing autographs. This was maybe 1987-88, I was wearing my Hextall jersey and she told me she hated the Flyers and gave me a smart ass smirk. Hot. She's never left my top 5.
Johnny Depp was there too but I had idea who he was since I didn't watch 21 Jumpstreet. Also met David Faustino aka Bud Bundy and Jeremey Miller who played Ben on Growing Pains.
Quote from: rjs246 on July 10, 2008, 10:44:56 AM
Dating and farging are two completely different things.
Mutually exclusive?
gee off and costey in the lineup today.
also happ was sent down so they could have an extra relief pitcher for the final 4 games. hopefully he gets a few more starts, dook has pitched well.
Quote from: MDS on July 10, 2008, 12:37:00 PM
also happ was sent down so they could have an extra relief pitcher for the final 4 games. hopefully he gets a few more starts, dook has pitched well.
Kendrick Pt II?
maybe. then myers coming back could be their big trade for this year, kind of like bringing gordon and myers back off the dl was the "big trade" last year. go team.
choke dawg 2-run bomb
he now leads the majors in HRs and still leads the NL in RBIs
and strikeouts
He's fat and he strikes out too much.
Burn him.
Does he have breast cancer?
if i hear one more commerical or see another ad for that vote for pat shtein im gonna puke...howard leads the league in hr and rbi...where is his all star campaign...not only does he not have one but hes getting booed at the stadium and buried continously on wip
Dude is batting .235. We all loved Dave Kingman growing up but we didn't want his ass on our team.
Howard's clearly getting booed because he's black and not because he's fat and strikes out too much.
Damn racist Phillyphans.
hes still infintely better than burrell...hell hes been better than utley for the last month and half
i just dont get the love affair with pat burrell
Quote from: ice grillin you on July 10, 2008, 01:43:08 PM
if i hear one more commerical or see another ad for that vote for pat shtein im gonna puke...howard leads the league in hr and rbi...where is his all star campaign...not only does he not have one but hes getting booed at the stadium and buried continously on wip
I think I see where you're going with this:
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Quote from: ice grillin you on July 10, 2008, 02:02:32 PM
hes still infintely better than burrell...hell hes been better than utley for the last month and half
i just dont get the love affair with pat burrell
Pats dreamy
ftw
Quote from: SD_Eagle on July 10, 2008, 02:02:50 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on July 10, 2008, 01:43:08 PM
if i hear one more commerical or see another ad for that vote for pat shtein im gonna puke...howard leads the league in hr and rbi...where is his all star campaign...not only does he not have one but hes getting booed at the stadium and buried continously on wip
I think I see where you're going with this:
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not at all...shtein ive bashed him more than anyone and im an honorary brother...i just dont get the double standard...jimmy is having an awful year....utley has been hideous for over a month and burrell has been a disgrace for much of his career...and now the team and fans are going all out to get him on an all star team he doesnt deserve while they have booed choke back to the dugout for most of this season after ROY and MVP's...its ridiculous and im not even a choke guy
Burrell is having a better season this year over Howard. How is this hard to understand?
Quote from: ice grillin you on July 10, 2008, 02:09:51 PMnow the team and fans are going all out to get him on an all star team he doesnt deserve
yeah the #5 overall OPS guy in the majors doesn't deserve to be there. He's the only one in the top 14 that wasn't invited to New York....
OPS means more than HR & RBI's. Definitely.
yeah, saying he doesn't deserve it this year is wrong, he does
the team/city/players/whoever would be doing this for whoever was on this vote-off, they did the same thing for abreu a few years ago. if it was So Taguchi on there, they would be doing the same thing, it's a publicity stunt
If I had to pick my favorite Phillie it would probably be Jimmy Rollins. But Rollins is having exactly same the kind of year he has every year except for last year. (Year.)
People pump him up to be this superman, and last year he was exactly that, but in general he's an above average hitter with great speed and a good glove and good leadership who is not the superstar that Phillie fans want him to be. What is he a career .280 hitter with like a .340 on base percentage? Whoopideedoo.
And that's all I have to say about that.
But how is his VORP?
Quote from: BigEd76 on July 10, 2008, 02:12:39 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on July 10, 2008, 02:09:51 PMnow the team and fans are going all out to get him on an all star team he doesnt deserve
yeah the #5 overall OPS guy in the majors doesn't deserve to be there. He's the only one in the top 14 that wasn't invited to New York....
lol vorp what?!?!....the top 14 ops guys?....im not saying either deserve it but get the farg outta here with that shtein...choke has
eighty farging two rbi and leads the majors in hr...burrell isnt even having the best year of the guys on the ballot
The clamoring for Pat to be in the ASG wouldn't be so ridiculous if on the other end of the coin, Howard wasn't being CRUCIFIED like he's the worst player on the team by the fans/radio. Booing him and then campaigning for Pat to be in the ASG is ridiculous.
Quote from: PhillyGirl on July 10, 2008, 02:23:25 PM
The clamoring for Pat to be in the ASG wouldn't be so ridiculous if on the other end of the coin, Howard wasn't being CRUCIFIED like he's the worst player on the team by the fans/radio. Booing him and then campaigning for Pat to be in the ASG is ridiculous.
exactly
and this campaign is way more organized and promoted than anything else the fans have ever done like this
Howard could have been there if San Diego had someone else to represent them besides Gonzalez
and why is OPS a ridiculous stat to measure players? I'm not into that ERA+ and VORP and BABIP and all that other geeky ish, but OPS is a combination of power and getting on base by any means....much more than looking at just batting average...
haha, you agree with PG
Quote from: rjs246 on July 10, 2008, 02:15:44 PM
If I had to pick my favorite Phillie it would probably be Jimmy Rollins. But Rollins is having exactly same the kind of year he has every year except for last year. (Year.)
People pump him up to be this superman, and last year he was exactly that, but in general he's an above average hitter with great speed and a good glove and good leadership who is not the superstar that Phillie fans want him to be. What is he a career .280 hitter with like a .340 on base percentage? Whoopideedoo.
And that's all I have to say about that.
RJS doesn't like baseball.
I just gained a bit more respect for Sarge.
Quote from: BigEd76 on July 10, 2008, 02:26:35 PM
much more than looking at just batting average...
....and rbi and homeruns
im not saying ops is worthless but generally when people cite stats like that it means they dont have a very strong argument...82 rbi at the break easily cancels out whatever burrrells ops is
i mean if youre gonna go into it that deep then lets count fielding which automatically elminates burrell from the team (and possibly choke)
again this isnt an indictment on burrell and its not a comparison of the two players im just baffled by the love burrell is getting vs the hate choke gets and i cant wait for 5pm today when the vote for pat crap ends
Quote from: SD_Eagle on July 10, 2008, 02:30:23 PM
I just gained a bit more respect for Sarge.
what did he say...i got larry andeson on talking about how hes voted for burrell 83 times today on his laptop
Quote from: PPinDC on July 10, 2008, 02:27:56 PM
Quote from: rjs246 on July 10, 2008, 02:15:44 PM
If I had to pick my favorite Phillie it would probably be Jimmy Rollins. But Rollins is having exactly same the kind of year he has every year except for last year. (Year.)
People pump him up to be this superman, and last year he was exactly that, but in general he's an above average hitter with great speed and a good glove and good leadership who is not the superstar that Phillie fans want him to be. What is he a career .280 hitter with like a .340 on base percentage? Whoopideedoo.
And that's all I have to say about that.
RJS doesn't like baseball.
No running plus no collisions plus chewing tobacco = boring as shtein.
.282 avg, 48 runs, 22 hr, 54 rbi, 21 2b, 68bb....that's all-star worthy, Pat was picked by MLB or whoever to be in the vote-off and the team and fans are supporting him, just like they did Abreu just like they would do any Phillie that was in this position, same with Howard if he was in the vote-off
NO ONE is saying that its not All Star worthy.
But to see the fans all going crazy for him and then booing Howard in the same farging night is typically pathetic.
Quote from: ice grillin you on July 10, 2008, 02:33:01 PM
Quote from: SD_Eagle on July 10, 2008, 02:30:23 PM
I just gained a bit more respect for Sarge.
what did he say...i got larry andeson on talking about how hes voted for burrell 83 times today on his laptop
Alyssa Milano was in studio and Sarge said he heard she liked Tattoo's. She said yes she had some ink and asked Sarge if he had any. Sarge responded "I don't have any tattoo's but I like looking at them". Alyssa said I have two that you can see. Sarge is a pimp.
abreus campaign didnt even sniff whats going on now with t shirts and guys camping out to try and get other fans to vote and every two seconds during the game the announcers talking about it ect..
and burrell is maybe the third best guy of the five who are up for the spot...the only way he deserves a nod is if the rosters were expanded
Quote from: SD_Eagle on July 10, 2008, 02:41:27 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on July 10, 2008, 02:33:01 PM
Quote from: SD_Eagle on July 10, 2008, 02:30:23 PM
I just gained a bit more respect for Sarge.
what did he say...i got larry andeson on talking about how hes voted for burrell 83 times today on his laptop
Alyssa Milano was in studio and Sarge said he heard she liked Tattoo's. She said yes she had some ink and asked Sarge if he had any. Sarge responded "I don't have any tattoo's but I like looking at them". Alyssa said I have two that you can see. Sarge is a pimp.
sarges pimp hand stay strong
83 RBIs, NL leader in HRs.
4-1 phils
He sucks.
Damn Howard owns the Cards. 4-1
Quote from: PhillyGirl on July 10, 2008, 02:44:44 PM
83 RBIs, NL leader in HRs.
4-1 phils
He sucks.
oh lord what have i done
By my recollection it seems Howard's last 10 HRs have been opposite fields.
IGY, don't flatter yourself. I've been laughing at the stupidity of the fans clamoring for Howard to be dealt, or saying he's past his prime, etc...for weeks. You had nothing to do with it.
Quote from: ice grillin you on July 10, 2008, 02:46:10 PM
Quote from: PhillyGirl on July 10, 2008, 02:44:44 PM
83 RBIs, NL leader in HRs.
4-1 phils
He sucks.
oh lord what have i done
Started one of the more retarded arguments in recent memory.
debate makes the internet go round...except on the funny boards...perhaps going back there would better suit you
franzke just said sarge is stalking alyssa milano
Quote from: ice grillin you on July 10, 2008, 02:56:20 PM
debate makes the internet go round...except on the funny boards...perhaps going back there would better suit you
If only those places existed anymore... boo hoo.
The commentators for the game last night on espn said that when Howard actually puts the ball in play this year, he's hitting over over .400. It's his k's that are absolutely killing him. Not that that's anything we don't already know, but I was surprised to see that his average was that high when he actually makes contact. If he could reduce his k's by even 25%, he's still probably hitting .300.
terrible throw by Jroll there. ugh.
Howard's defense deserves to be booed. And when he is clueless up there hacking at sliders in the RH box, he deserves to be booed when he does not make adjustments or continuously swing at the pitches.
Burrell deserves to go. Even if he does not win the vote, they need someone to replace Soriano.
I voted for Burrell and had some of the guys I work with do it too.
Back to Howard, he has made his adjustments and is heating up. Its too bad it took him until late June/July to get going full throttle.
Quote from: Sgt PSN on July 10, 2008, 02:59:45 PMIf he could reduce his k's by even 25%, he's still probably hitting .300.
just out of curiousity i ran the numbers and hed be hitting .268 this year vs .231 were he to cut his k's by one quarter...which coincidentally is exactly what he hit last year .268
if you run the numbers on his strikeout totals from last year tho he ends up hitting .306
no, you're supposed to cheer him when he's hitting .196 in June and has over 100k's already
He's STILL getting booed when he K's.
Is he batting .196? ::)
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ok...i never actually laughed at a smilie before.
ha...thats awesome
SunMo has been sitting on that thing for how long? LOL
Oh jesus I actually chuckled at that. Please kill me.
Bedard to the DL. So much for trading for him.
Quote from: PhillyGirl on July 10, 2008, 03:34:35 PM
SunMo has been sitting on that thing for how long? LOL
too f'n long...
why would anyone waste a second of their life voting for a pampered, rich athlete to go on a free trip to New York City and sit in a dugout with the best players in game and receive a bonus more than 99% of the country makes in a year?
Quote from: MDS on July 10, 2008, 03:53:39 PM
why would anyone waste a second of their life voting for a pampered, rich athlete to go on a free trip to New York City and sit in a dugout with the best players in game and receive a bonus more than 99% of the country makes in a year?
cause hes dreamy?
is he more dreamy drawing a walk and being replaced by so taguchi or when hes drowning in a mound of coke and random bar floozies?
Can't it be both?
try really hard to think of a scenario in which that man muffin wouldnt be dreamy...bet you cant
holy shtein a series win against a team not from georgia
now to be swept by the dbacks: two lefties and webb.
magic number = 69 ^-^
they sold out a BPS against the Cardinals? phillies fans are insane
Quote from: SunMo on July 10, 2008, 04:03:11 PM
they sold out a BPS against the Cardinals? phillies fans are insane
two words:
samantha micelli
Quote from: SunMo on July 10, 2008, 04:03:11 PM
they sold out a BPS against the Cardinals? phillies fans are insane
they didnt sell out tuesday (41k) and june 2 against cinci (38k). since june the rest have been sellouts.
the low this year was the 3rd game against dc. other than that theyve been over 30k.
i hate these owners
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Oh I see. He's touching his penis.
hit him hard enough to flip him too
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Myers is pitching for Reading next. Will they keep sending him down until he's finally whiffing little leaguers?
reading is at home that why hes pitching there...they dont want to send him on 14 hr minor league bus trips
Quote from: ice grillin you on July 10, 2008, 04:47:36 PM
reading is at home that why hes pitching there...they dont want to send him on 14 hr minor league bus trips
You may be right, but dear god who cares? The dude is a minor leaguer right now, shouldn't he be traveling with his fellow minor leaguers?
he's not a minor leaguer...he's a major leaguer pitching in the minors
Quote from: rjs246 on July 10, 2008, 04:54:06 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on July 10, 2008, 04:47:36 PM
reading is at home that why hes pitching there...they dont want to send him on 14 hr minor league bus trips
You may be right, but dear god who cares? The dude is a minor leaguer right now, shouldn't he be traveling with his fellow minor leaguers?
hes there to straighten out his pitching...not to bond with teammates playing peanuckle on the back of the swb team bus
Quote from: SunMo on July 10, 2008, 04:55:20 PM
he's not a minor leaguer...he's a major leaguer pitching in the minors
Judging from what I saw from him this year, I'd say the exact opposite. He was a minor leaguer pitching in the majors.
Boom! Outta here.
Quote from: ice grillin you on July 10, 2008, 05:04:40 PM
Quote from: rjs246 on July 10, 2008, 04:54:06 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on July 10, 2008, 04:47:36 PM
reading is at home that why hes pitching there...they dont want to send him on 14 hr minor league bus trips
You may be right, but dear god who cares? The dude is a minor leaguer right now, shouldn't he be traveling with his fellow minor leaguers?
hes there to straighten out his pitching...not to bond with teammates playing peanuckle on the back of the swb team bus
I think that's a load of bullshtein. If you aren't good enough to stay up with the team you aren't a big leaguer. But whatever. I know that you're right and that that is exactly what the team is doing, but it's retarded.
Stark:
Quote"The buzz in Philadelphia is that GM Pat Gillick has convinced ownership to take on a big contract if the right starting pitcher falls into their zip code. We're not sure how hard that was, but even the most skeptical members of a conservative ownership group can't help but see that the Phillies aren't going anywhere without a high-impact starter.
"Then again, Sabathia was the guy they'd targeted. Yet they wouldn't talk about either their best minor league arm, Carlos Carrasco, or their most advanced position player, catcher Lou Marson, in those Sabathia discussions. So without altering that stance, they might not even have the ammunition to get a second-tier starter.
"Phillies executives have been telling people they're wary of both Erik Bedard and A.J. Burnett. But at this point, they have no choice but to stalk both of them."
Nice to see that this ownership group is still having to be convinced rather than them going to the GM and telling him to do whatever it takes to win. I hate them.
they cant trade carrasco they him to take hamels spot when he leaves
Quote from: ice grillin you on July 10, 2008, 05:04:40 PM
peanuckle
Worst misspelling of any word in the history of ever?
Quote from: ice grillin you on July 10, 2008, 06:57:07 PM
they cant trade carrasco they him to take hamels spot when he leaves
Right, then Kendrick will be the #2.
Bums eyeing Burnett (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2008/baseball/mlb/07/10/phillies.burnett/index.html)
Pass
I'd rather they keep their prospects and take a chance on a guy like Happ than overpay for that stiff.
I don't like him and never did when he was in FLA.
He's inconsistent and is prone to getting blown up just as much as one of the Phillies farm-hands they could bring up and be about $12M cheaper.
Burnett is horrible...
Which is why the Phillies will get him.
More fuel to the fire, Howard should take Soriano's spot:
Quote
Is Howard All-Star worthy?
By Todd Zolecki
Inquirer Staff Writer
Should Colorado Rockies manager Clint Hurdle call Charlie Manuel about Ryan Howard's worthiness to replace Alfonso Soriano on the National League all-star roster, Manuel might ask him a few questions instead:
How many RBIs does Howard have?
How many home runs has he hit?
What place is his team in?
Where does he hit in his team's lineup?
Hurdle already has replaced the injured Soriano in the NL starting lineup with Rockies leftfielder Matt Holliday, but he still must find a player to replace him on the team. Howard deserves serious consideration for that spot, along with Phillies leftfielder Pat Burrell.
Howard leads the major leagues with 27 home runs and the NL with 83 RBIs. If Hurdle doesn't choose Howard to replace Soriano, Elias Sports Bureau's Santo Labombarda said Howard could become the first player to lead his league in home runs and RBIs at the all-star break and not make the all-star team since Cincinnati Reds leftfielder Hank Sauer in 1948.
"I'm part of history," Howard joked after yesterday's 4-1 victory over the St. Louis Cardinals at Citizens Bank Park, where he went 2 for 4 with two home runs and three RBIs.
Sauer was hitting .275 with a league-leading 24 homers and 64 RBIs in 1948, but the NL starting outfield featured Cardinals leftfielder Stan Musial, Phillies centerfielder Richie Ashburn, and Cardinals rightfielder Enos Slaughter. Reserve outfielders included Boston Braves rightfielder Tommy Holmes, Pittsburgh Pirates leftfielder Ralph Kiner, and New York Giants outfielder Bobby Thomson.
The things that could hold Howard back (and should not) are his average and strikeouts. He is hitting just .234 and has struck out an eye-popping 125 times. He is on pace to finish the season with 47 homers, 144 RBIs and 217 strikeouts, which would shatter the major-league record he set last season with 199 strikeouts.
But two things about Howard's average and strikeouts:
He was hitting a season-low .163 on May 7 but has hit .272 with 21 homers and 67 RBIs since. So, while a low batting average typically correlates with poor production, that's not the case here. Howard also is hitting .333 this season with runners in scoring position, which shows he has been coming up big in clutch situations all season.
Strikeouts are overrated.
Baseball Prospectus looked at the relationship between teams' strikeout rates and run production from 1950 to 2002. It found no correlation. It also found that a hitter's strikeout rate correlates positively to power, slugging percentage, and walks per plate appearance. After another look at strikeouts by Baseball Prospectus in 2005, analyst James Click wrote, "On a very rough scale, a strikeout costs a team about three one-hundredths of a run."
That's statistically insignificant.
Howard's run production is not.
"Find somebody that has produced more runs than him?" Manuel said. "I think that's kind of hard to do. He's leading the league in homers, and he's leading the league in RBIs. I'd say, who tops that? What's the name of the game? Produce runs. He does that."
That's why Manuel does not concern himself much with Howard's average. Sure, he would like his strikeouts to drop a bit, but not at the expense of the run production he provides.
"Would you take him out of your lineup?" Manuel said. "He does about twice as much as other guys do. How can you take him out of your lineup? What he does sits right there in front of you. That's one thing about this game. Nobody can take away your performance on the field. It sits right there in front of you. The numbers tell the story."
And it should be enough to get Hurdle to think long and hard about putting Howard on the all-star team. He just needs to see past his average and strikeouts and look at the numbers that really matter.
Has anyone with his HR/RBI total or better ever NOT made the All-Star game?
Quote from: FastFreddie on July 11, 2008, 12:47:30 PM
Has anyone with his HR/RBI total or better ever NOT made the All-Star game?
Doubtful. Also doubtful they had 125 Ks, the worst batting average of any starting 1st baseman in the league, or couldn't play a lick of defense.
You can't strictly look at his offensive numbers to make a case for him to be there. That article makes a pretty good argument to negate the overwhelming number of K's Howard has racked up this year. But what about the errors he also logs on the field?
He leads NL 1B with 10 errors and has the 3rd lowest fielding percentage.
I'm a pro-Howard guy. But I think there are too many holes in his all around game to make him an All Star 1B this year.
Having said that, this year's game is in an AL park which means that the DH rule is in effect. I would have absolutely no problem with Howard going and being a DH, but by no means should he have a need to bring his glove to the ball park with him.
JMO
Quote from: FastFreddie on July 11, 2008, 12:47:30 PM
Has anyone with his HR/RBI total or better ever NOT made the All-Star game?
not even close...in fact not many people who
have made the all star team have had numbers like his...but lets have a parade for pat burrell
good point, let's not support the phillies player who has a chance to be voted into the all-star game
Quote from: SunMo on July 11, 2008, 01:06:13 PM
good point, let's not support the phillies player who has a chance to be voted into the all-star game
i wouldnt vote for any of them...the whole thing is gay...but burrell definitely didnt deserve it and thankfully the fans recognized this and got outvoted by milwaukee of all places
yes, thankfully, another phillie didn't make the all-star team...booooooooo .282, 22hr, 21 doubles
Burrell is more deserving to be there this year than Howard.
JMO
Quote from: Sgt PSN on July 11, 2008, 01:20:56 PM
Burrell is more deserving to be there this year than Howard.
JMO
Quote from: SunMo on July 11, 2008, 01:15:58 PM
yes, thankfully, another phillie didn't make the all-star team...booooooooo .282, 22hr, 21 doubles
hes having a good year....but he needs to buy a ticket to get in the all star game...people shouldnt be having t-shirts and internet crusades on his behalf to make it...these are the same people that do the wave in the 8th inning of a tie game at the bank
who the eff cares how many phillies make an exhibition game.....burrell has never won a playoff game in his friggin life...worry about that shtein not an all star game
Quote from: Sgt PSN on July 11, 2008, 01:20:56 PM
Burrell is more deserving to be there this year than Howard.
no...and really its not close...howard is second in the majors in run production...and arent runs the most important stat in the game...farging geovany soto has more rbi than burrell
Quote from: FastFreddie on July 11, 2008, 01:33:50 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on July 11, 2008, 01:28:50 PM
geovany soto
Excuse me. Who?
hes the guy that doesnt get pulled out of every game in the 7th inning cause he cant catch or run
so you blame burrell because charlie is a moron...awesome
i dont blame burrell for anything...i blame the team somewhat but mostly i blame its idiotic new cbp fanbase
i hate you
just make sure you dont spill my beer next time youre doing the wave
PHILADELPHIA -- Pat Burrell was at a diner Wednesday when he saw five Phillies fans carrying "Vote for Pat" signs. The left fielder has also seen the billboards and the T-shirts with the same slogan.
It's all part of campaign to get Burrell into his first All-Star Game.
"It's unbelievable," Burrell said.
As of Wednesday afternoon, Burrell and the Mets' David Wright were closely trailing Milwaukee's Corey Hart in the Monster 2008 All-Star Game Final Vote. The Giants' Aaron Rowand and the Astros' Carlos Lee are also in the running.
Phillies fans have until 5 p.m. ET on Thursday to vote Burrell into his first All Star Game. He didn't make the NL squad that was announced Sunday afternoon, but has a second chance as one of five finalists for the Monster 2008 All-Star Final Vote.
Burrell is getting plenty of support from four Phillies fans who have been working since noon Tuesday to cast as many votes as possible. The four -- Nick Ferraro of Lancaster, Monica Horwedel of Conshohocken, Jason Schatz of Willow Grove and Todd Smith of Oreland -- were picked by sports talk radio station WIP to hold vigil at a table outside the upper level of Harry the K's at Citizens Bank Park, using their laptops to repeatedly vote for Burrell.
Late Wednesday afternoon, the four showed no signs of slowing down. Horwedel estimated that they had collectively cast about 50,000 votes for the Phillies' left fielder. The group is hoping to cast more than 100,000 votes for Burrell.
"We still have a whole day," Horwedel said.
Whichever one of them stays awake the longest and votes the most will receive a jersey personally autographed by Burrell and will attend a Phillies game with 15 friends in Burrell's suite.
Burrell smiled in amazement when discussing the four fans' efforts.
"They're really going out of their way," he said.
In its seventh year, the Final Vote gives baseball fans the chance to select the final player on each squad. The winners will be announced on MLB.com.
Burrell said he doesn't have computer (bullshtein) , so the left fielder hasn't been able to cast a vote yet. Still, his teammates have been happy to campaign on his behalf.
"His numbers speak for themselves," second baseman Chase Utley said. "And he's my buddy."
If those were black players and he said "that's my dawg"...you wouldn't have bolded it.
They both deserve to be in the all-star game, and if there's a question on either of them it's Howard due to his zesty BA, insane amount of strike outs, and terrible fielding. End of discussion.
Seriously....shut up.
Quote from: ice grillin you on July 11, 2008, 02:54:42 PM
"His numbers speak for themselves," second baseman Chase Utley said. "And he's my buddy."
How can they be buddies? Chase spends time saving old cats while Pat regularly kills young puss.
Quote from: Munson on July 11, 2008, 02:58:14 PM
If those were black players and he said "that's my dawg"...you wouldn't have bolded it.
Ha. Your doucheness knows no bounds. He schooled you in the torture thread, so now you follow him around all day to knock anything he does. You should've whipped out the "you're a fag!" routine.
Quote from: PPinDC on July 11, 2008, 03:00:00 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on July 11, 2008, 02:54:42 PM
"His numbers speak for themselves," second baseman Chase Utley said. "And he's my buddy."
How can they be buddies? Chase spends time saving old cats while Pat regularly kills young Hoyda.
excellent observation
god damn thats gay shtein right there, makes me sad to be a phils fan
Quote from: Seabiscuit36 on July 11, 2008, 03:07:08 PM
god damn thats gay shtein right there, makes me sad to be a phils fan
agreed.
David Wright replaced Soriano. Try again next year
Quote from: PPinDC on July 11, 2008, 03:00:00 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on July 11, 2008, 02:54:42 PM
"His numbers speak for themselves," second baseman Chase Utley said. "And he's my buddy."
How can they be buddies? Chase spends time saving old cats while Pat regularly kills young puss.
Quote from: Munson on July 11, 2008, 02:58:14 PM
If those were black players and he said "that's my dawg"...you wouldn't have bolded it.
Ha. Your doucheness knows no bounds. He schooled you in the torture thread, so now you follow him around all day to knock anything he does. You should've whipped out the "you're a fag!" routine.
You're the one that follows my posts around. I don't see how calling me a dope is any better then calling him a fag and somehow I got schooled. Riiiiiight.
Nice try, though.
the DBacks lineup tonight has four guys (including the pitcher) that don't have a HR yet this year, their #3 guy has 7 HRs, and their cleanup hitter has 8 HRs
Jinx, ftl?
probably. plus the guy pitching for Arizona has thyroid cancer
D-Backs will win 83-1. Solo shot by Ruiz.
The big black guy that won't go to the all star game just hit another opposite field HR. #28
Annnnnd Charlie leaves Kendrick in just a little too long.
4-3 in the 7th. Yay for losing the lead.
yea they won wooo
beat a solid squad and a lefty all in the same night....yay team
Should we mention that they could have won in 9 had they just managed to get Victorino home from 3rd in the 8th?
They also had guys in scoring position in the 9th, 10th, and 11th.
I'm hungover because they went to 12 innings. If they had won it in the ninth I would have caught the last trolley home, but no, they had to go extra innings, and as a result, I ended up staying out and getting smashed.
I hate this team.
HATE!
good piece on marson today in the inquirer
http://www.philly.com/inquirer/sports/20080712_Reading_s_Marson_becoming_a_total_player.html
Quote from: Rome on July 12, 2008, 09:55:17 AM
I'm hungover because they went to 12 innings. If they had won it in the ninth I would have caught the last trolley home, but no, they had to go extra innings, and as a result, I ended up staying out and getting smashed.
I hate this team.
HATE!
Apparently your control approximates that of Brett Myers.
Quote from: Rome on July 12, 2008, 09:55:17 AM
I'm hungover because they went to 12 innings. If they had won it in the ninth I would have caught the last trolley home, but no, they had to go extra innings, and as a result, I ended up staying out and getting smashed.
I hate this team.
HATE!
I had to get up at 5 this morning and lets just say it wasn't fun...but they won so it was werth it
Oh jesus christ.
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Murder. By the way, the Phillies bullpen is pretty good.
Quote from: rjs246 on July 12, 2008, 12:29:28 PM
Oh jesus christ.
I almost added a smiley cause I saw you were on
Quote from: SD_Eagle on July 12, 2008, 12:28:58 PM
Quote from: Rome on July 12, 2008, 09:55:17 AM
I'm hungover because they went to 12 innings. If they had won it in the ninth I would have caught the last trolley home, but no, they had to go extra innings, and as a result, I ended up staying out and getting smashed.
I hate this team.
HATE!
I had to get up at 5 this morning and lets just say it wasn't fun...but they won so it was werth it
BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
Last night's game was the first time i actually left my seat to go to watch the game from one of the communal areas. The guy next too me was one of the worst smelling people I have ever come across. I had to shower almost immediately when I got home, the smell attacked me.
That said..Harry the K's is probably the best thing about the stadium. (upper or lower level pavilion tables).
Quote from: FastFreddie on July 12, 2008, 12:23:27 PM
Quote from: Rome on July 12, 2008, 09:55:17 AM
trolley
Really?
Yep. It's a beach trolley that runs up and down A1A every 1/2 hour. It's basically a 1940's style bus that costs $1.25 each way. Better than paying $10,000 for a DUI.
Me & SD refer to Howard as Choje Dog in texts.
We win.
Quote from: Wingspan on July 12, 2008, 01:09:04 PM
That said..Harry the K's is probably the best thing about the stadium. (upper or lower level pavilion tables).
I was surprised, there was no line, the food was decent, and the prices were fair. They serve beer there too which is always an added bonus.
Quote from: Rome on July 12, 2008, 01:22:10 PM
Me & SD refer to Howard as Choje Dog in texts.
We win.
He's been hitting well as Choje Dog
I went to HTK's when it first opened. I was underwhelmed by the food and the service plus we couldn't actually sit there for the entire game, which sucked.
Utley not in the starting lineup vs Randy Johnson today
Here's who's getting the game on FOX:
PA - all except Erie
Arizona
Maryland
Washington DC
Virginia
WV - all except Charleston
OH - Cincinnati, Columbus, Dayton
IN - Evansville
WI - Milwaukee, Green Bay, Madison
MO - all except Kansas City
Kentucky
Tennessee
NC - all except Wilmington
South Carolina
Georgia
FL - Tallahassee, Panama City
Alabama
Mississippi
Louisiana
Arkansas
TX - all except Dallas
Oklahoma
New Mexico
Nevada
Oregon
California
Hawaii
American Samoa
Guam
It'll be interesting to see if Howard can stay hot against Johnson.
Good time to sit Utley too.
:yay Eaton :yay
:yay Victorino :yay
Eaton giving up the double to Randy Johnson to score 2 with 2 outs. Awesome.
Are you f'ing kidding me....Randy Johnson just crushed a 2-run double :-D
Eaton's got no control left. Get him the farg outta there.
Nothing like following up a thrilling extra-inning win with a start by Eaton.
:-D
2 outs, then 8 runs due to Eaton's inability to sit down Randy Johnson.
How is Swindle's ERA looking now?
while eaton was a bit of surprise for the first 2.5 months of the season, he needs to be dfa'ed right now.
Yep. DFA time.
Take him out back and put the mercy bullet in him. That inning was ridiculous.
I bet PG was thrilled with the loss today.
It's urgent to get another starter in here. Hamels/Kendrick/Moyer/Happ/Myers ain't gonna cut it. I shudder at the thought of seeing Myers back in philly.
How in the farg can you people talk baseball at a time like this? Hello!! The Soul are going to the Arena Bowl!
Quote from: Sgt PSN on July 12, 2008, 08:38:02 PM
How in the farg can you people talk baseball at a time like this? Hello!! The Soul are going to the Arena Bowl!
We weren't talking about baseball, we were talking about Adam Eaton's 4th inning, which was more like tee ball.
Quote from: Wingspan on July 12, 2008, 06:57:27 PM
I bet PG was thrilled with the loss today.
Are you farging kidding me? I love the Phillies. I NEVER want to see them lose. wtf. >:(
I'm actually glad that yesterday's game was blacked out.
Quote from: PhillyGirl on July 13, 2008, 08:25:50 AM
Quote from: Wingspan on July 12, 2008, 06:57:27 PM
I bet PG was thrilled with the loss today.
Are you farging kidding me? I love the Phillies. I NEVER want to see them lose. wtf. >:(
It's these minor internet overreactions that keep me coming back to this place.
No doubt, the weakness that is the starting rotation has been exposed for the world to see in the past few weeks.
At this point, Hamels is a #1/2 pitcher. He could use a top-notch pitcher to learn from. He's dominant in some starts, but has been prone to giving up the long ball in others.
Moyer has been excellent, but we're all waiting for the day when his 1,000-year-old arm finally falls off.
Myers is in the minor leagues after being the opening day starter. EI have nothing to contribute.
Kendrick is Kendrick. OK, not great. A #3/4 starter at best.
Eaton has had several 2007 Eaton starts in a row now after being fairly solid in most of his prior starts. A troubling sign for a team that desperately needs somebody - ANYBODY - to step up behind Hamels and Moyer.
We can all be upset about not getting Sabathia, but the Phils just did not have the minor league chips to get him. I would love to have seen Harden here, but with the Philadelphia luck, he'd be on the DL by August 1. Not sure what other first- or second-tier pitchers will be available come the deadline, but if the Phils don't pick up one, don't be surprised if they're a third-place team by the end of the season.
I think it's time to kick Eaton to the curb. The last two starts aren't the aberration, the few games he pitched relatively well were.
I would be okay with Happ taking his place as the 5th guy, just to see what you have. The sooner the better, because if Happ can't cut it, then they really are in need of two arms. I really believe Myers is done as well, he has never seem like the mentally tough kind of guy. At this point they've gotta work to get what's available, and if that's Burnett, so be it. Just gotta hope a change of scenery does him well. If they can't or won't get anything done, I'd like to see Carrasco called up when his shoulder is better, as well as Happ staying up.
I'm with Geo, if they don't do something drastic with this staff, it's third place at best.
QuotePhillies Notes: Phillies talk to Rockies about Fuentes
By Sam Carchidi
Inquirer Staff Writer
The Phillies are trying to make their already formidable bullpen even stronger.
A source close to the situation said the Phillies are trying to acquire Colorado reliever Brian Fuentes, a 32-year-old lefthander who is 1-4 with a 3.50 ERA and 14 saves. He is to earn a little more than $5 million this year.
The Rockies have asked the Phils for righthander Carlos Carrasco or catcher Lou Marson, both of whom are at double-A Reading. They are regarded as two of the club's top prospects.
The Phillies have turned down the offer, but the teams still are talking, the source said.
The Phils have a best-in-the-majors 2.70 bullpen ERA, but they are looking for another lefthander to take some of the load off J.C. Romero.
is there a better announcer in sports than matt vasgersian...he is friggin hilarious
happ in eaton out...they go their 8 mil out of eaton for this season...its now time to move on
might as well stash him on the dl. you have to pay him, its silly to just let him go. but no he should never start another game.
also nice to see the offense in full force against this barry webb guy. fargers.
chase is killing this team right now
but hes white so its okay
1-19 with RISP since 6/5
shut up racist
choke's defense is embarrassing, but not as embarrassing as the hometown scoring calling that a hit
so should i get you a ticket for jewish heritage night on aug 21?
Pat Burrell! Pedro Feliz!
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Quote from: ice grillin you on July 13, 2008, 04:30:44 PM
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nice.
Were you serious that Eaton is out and Happ is in? I missed most of the game.
I havent read anything, PG.
Good game today. The DBacks dumbshtein baserunning helped them in the 7th. Drew was stopped inexplicably by the 3B coach on a ball not caught at the wall by Jenkins. Good for the Phils as they tied it up soon after.
Burrell was clutch. Good win before the break.
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nice.
Were you serious that Eaton is out and Happ is in? I missed most of the game.
i mean i was serious but its just my opinion...i havent seen what they are gonna do after the break
Happ can't be called back up right away unless they DL Eaton. Someone asked Charlie in the postgame about Eaton getting another start and he stumbled through while not committing to anything...
That Swindle junk was sent back to the Pigs.....Joe Bisenius is up
Florida down 6-1 after the 1st inning
why cant he be called back up unless eaton goes on the dl
I believe there is a 10 day waiting period to recall players from the minors unless a player is placed on the DL.
Quote from: BigEd76 on July 13, 2008, 05:06:35 PM
Florida down 6-1 after the 1st inning
Aren't the Mets a bigger concern at this point anyway?
No, the Marlins are a better team.
After 47 AB, Cole Hamels is hitting .277.
Gotta keep an eye on both teams for now. And look who the Phils get after the break.....3 at Florida, 3 at New York
SCOREBOARD WATCH IN JEW LIE DAMNIT
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on July 13, 2008, 05:23:07 PM
I believe there is a 10 day waiting period to recall players from the minors unless a player is placed on the DL.
yeah and thats ten days from last week which is nothing....in fact with the all star break would he even miss a turn
ace batting 2nd in the nl lineup. youd also have to imagine lights out is the closer.
stop calling him ace
yeah, call him chaser
you two are no longer authority figures to me.
Utleysey?
Zolecki's blog;
QuoteMonday, July 14, 2008
What A Tool
I hope this guy doesn't believe in karma.
A guy dressed in full Phillies uniform -- complete with Phillies wristbands! -- showed up at the All-Star Fan Fest in New York and got people to actually hand him memorabilia to sign. This supposedly went on for 15 to 20 minutes before police escorted him out of the building. Note to memorabilia seekers: no player in his right mind would be in full uniform unless he's on the field. Ever. Another note to memorabilia seekers: have a clue who is signing your baseball, jersey, glove, etc. The name on the back of the jersey was C. Yeager, who wore No. 16. There never was a C. Yeager, who played for the Phillies. And every Phillies fan knows J.C. Romero wears No. 16 for the Phillies. As a side note, I think I've seen this guy before. Or at least I saw somebody just like him a couple springs ago in Bradenton, Fla. He showed up along the third-base line dressed in full uniform and players cracked jokes about his attire. Note to fans: no fan in his right mind should dress in a full Phillies uniform, unless he or she is under 10 years old.
Update: phillyblog.com said this guy's name is Cole Yeager. Read more about him here.
He seemed like a nice enough guy in the story, but the guy ruined baseballs and other memorabilia with his autograph because people believed he was a real player. That's pretty pathetic.
An article on the Phillies version of Sean Young;
QuoteOn a dreary, damp and cold May night Cole Yeager walks through Citizens Bank Park in Philadelphia dressed in full uniform, everything from head to toe. The hat? Fitted. His jersey? Customized with his lucky No.16 on the back. His spikes? Painted red to match the stirrups and red pinstriped pants.
Three little kids approach Yeager as he passes through Ashburn Alley. Quickly throwing out a hat, glove and a program for him to sign. The curious group of onlookers soon turns rabid, armed with sharpies and cameras. The impromptu autograph session would last for the better part of the next hour.
"Are you a real player," an old lady, maybe 70, asks the Mike Schmidt wannabe.
"I'm a minor leaguer. Double A. Remember my name because I'll be up in a few years," Yeager responds.
He's correct in telling the woman he's a minor leaguer.... ...in Emerson College's Intramural Whiffleball League, where the college junior hit a buck-seventy last season. Signing autographs for old ladies and little kids is the closest he'll ever come to living out his big league dreams.
Secretly, I'd like to believe that the assembled crowd knows he isn't real. But Yeager isn't a 300-pound fat guy wearing something purchased at Wal-Mart. His 6-foot-3 well-built, athletic frame makes it obvious that he's an athlete. At just 20, he's slightly younger than Jonathan Papelbon and Prince Fielder, two of the best young players in the game. And his costume, ranging from the Authentic Collection turtleneck to the red belt and matching armbands, is as good as it gets. Which makes it hard not to admire how real he looks... even if he can't hit a whiffleball.
"He's like the Phillies' Santa Claus," notes his father, Rich. "People want to believe he's real."
Yeager walks into the team store and is immediately recognized by some of the employees. With the costume, he's both the best customer and a walking billboard. The crowd, now smaller, starts to form around this real-life talking mannequin.
"Here! Stand next to the bobblehead Thome," someone shouts. "Smile!" CLICK.
How did it all start? Yeager going from rabid fan to an almost imaginary figure.
"The jersey was for my 16th birthday," he remembers. "After 9/11, MLB put the American Flag on the back of the jerseys and I really wanted one. That's why 16 is on the back."
He found the pants on eBay for 20 bucks and the idea of building an entire uniform was born. Three years later Yeager had refined his act, eagerly enjoying his cult status at the ballpark, especially with the ladies.
"There was a rain delay on the night Jim Thome hit his 400th homer," he laments. "This was only my second time at the new ballpark so I wanted to get a feel for the place. All of the sudden a whole luxury box of 16- to 18-year-old girls start shouting my name and waiving to me."
The story gets better.
Twenty minutes later he wanders again. This time a man shouts out for him and invites him into his private suite. Turns out the suite was owned by Lincoln Financial Field, home of the Eagles.
"The guys wanted to know what the deal was with the jersey. They offered me free food, snacks, beer, everything," Yeager said.
And better.
The girls, who were previously screaming his name, were in the suite next door. Once they figured out that the look-a-like in the Phillies uniform was feet away, raging hormones took over.
"I was mobbed," he jubilantly says. "Turns out it was a birthday party and one of the girls invited 19 of her closest friends to the game."
And better.
"One of the guys in the suite was a ticket broker, and he ended up setting my family up with seats for a Rockies-Reds game at Coors Field when we went out there. Oh! And the Phillies won too."
By this time it was clear that the act was a winner. Since then he's continued to wander the stands of Citizens Bank Park periodically on those hot summer nights when he's got a ticket. He says he enjoys the attention, the little kids and being recognized as a hardcore Philly fan.
"Younger and older guys make fun of me," he admits. "But that's because they can't pull it off like I can."
I never figure out what makes people do that kind of stuff. I'd much rather be in shorts and a tee shirt, drinking beer.
note to Cole:
Younger guys make fun of you becuase your an idiot, wannabe ballplayer.
LOL. Chase gets booed and he says..."BOOO.... farg YOU"
Most awesome thing ever?
:-D :-D
Awesome, Utley.
I heard that too.
farg New York!
Quote from: Rome on July 14, 2008, 08:09:15 PM
Most awesome thing ever?
Since Utley did it, Yes. farging hilarious. Trashy Mets fans invaded the stadium
i need a youtube of this asap
ask and ye shall receive http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BBEnfGsLTHE
that's f'n awesome
That Jimmy Rollins ESPN commercial was good.
Quote from: Seabiscuit36 on July 14, 2008, 08:42:32 PM
ask and ye shall receive http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BBEnfGsLTHE
:-D :-D :-D
I think the fact that he still maintains the soft spoken manner while saying it makes it even more hilarious.
"Boo? farg you."
hahaha
Was Chase your favorite current Phillie before tonight?
Is he now?
Quote from: Seabiscuit36 on July 14, 2008, 08:42:32 PM
ask and ye shall receive http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BBEnfGsLTHE
I have my first man crush. That was farging hilarious.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iBtkQoeaNCE&feature=related
Better version..lolz
Quote from: FastFreddie on July 14, 2008, 09:10:48 PM
Was Chase your favorite current Phillie before tonight?
Is he now?
no
no
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anyone who wears a piece of clothing in public with the word farg on it should be beaten
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that especially includes 14 year old daddy dont love me hate the world goth kids who rock farg racism shirts they bought at spencer gifts with their allowance money
but they still might be a notch above the cbp phillie fans who muck the fets
Quote
Phillies pitching coach Rich Dubee said today that Jamie Moyer will make the first start after the All Star break against Florida in Miami. Kyle Kendrick will follow him Saturday. Cole Hamels will then likely start Sunday, though that isn't yet set and stone. Dubee was noncomittal on the final two spots in the rotation, though he did say Brett Myers will get another start in the minors. Myers pitched Saturday night, so his next turn would likely be Thursday, when the IronPigs host the Red Barons.
here we go again with this shtein...lets hold king back till sunday so he misses the mets series
just beyond idiotic why he cant start saturday. it gives him 6 days off between starts and lets him go on normal rest for that thursday game in new york. douches.
there was alot of cursing going on throughout the HR derby. Prob more than some south park and family guy episodes.
Saturday/Thursday would be two day games for Cole, where he's around .500 and has an ERA over 4. It's a stupid excuse, but that could be part of their thinking besides the rest thing. I hated that he missed last week's series and now he's going to miss both...
So we're sitting here watching the warm up to the All Star Game, and they show George Steinbrenner riding into the stadium in his golf cart. My eight year-old turns to me and says, "you know, they can shoot a president, why can't they just shoot him?"
:-D
Sometimes kids just "know" about things.
The force is strong in her, indeed. Hell, she'll be old enough for Sarge in only 3 or 4 years!
Quote from: BigEd76 on July 15, 2008, 05:15:53 PM
Saturday/Thursday would be two day games for Cole, where he's around .500 and has an ERA over 4. It's a stupid excuse, but that could be part of their thinking besides the rest thing. I hated that he missed last week's series and now he's going to miss both...
huh?
friday/wed would be two night games
myers pitches friday in clearwater then joins the team in miami and starts on wednesday. id assume that makes happ the tuesday starter.
Hamels just pitched on Sunday and they didn't want to use him on Friday.
Quote from: BigEd76 on July 16, 2008, 10:50:09 AM
Hamels just pitched on Sunday and they didn't want to use him on Friday.
this is what i intially brought up and you responded with day games being why they are sitting him not because they wanna given him a seven day rest
regardless if they wanna do that then wait till the washington series....why the hell would you sit your ace against the mets
Because the Mets suck.
fwiw, Phils are in talks with the A's for Joe Blanton. Apparently it will not involve any of the top prospects. http://www.baseball-reference.com/b/blantjo01.shtml
He's better than his record shows...still isn't the "answer" but he'd shore the back of the rotation. I'd take him as long as you're not giving up a ton for him.
hes a michelin man looking whale...cant wait to see this lard assed sweatbox in the august heat
id rather go for broke and get holliday then some mediocre pitcher who will be a slight improvement over ja happ
Lovely
QuoteThursday, July 17, 2008
Phillies Get Blanton
The Phillies hope Joe Blanton can help their rotation for the stretch run much like Jamie Moyer helped them in 2006 and Kyle Lohse helped them in 2007.
They just acquired the righthander from the Oakland Athletics today in a trade for minor-league prospects Adrian Cardenas, Josh Outman and Matt Spencer. Blanton, 27, is just 5-12 with a 4.96 ERA this season, but the Phillies certainly seem to think he's an upgrade over what they have.
With Brett Myers expected to return to the rotation next Wednesday against the New York Mets at Shea Stadium, that could signal Adam Eaton's move to the bullpen. Eaton is 1-4 with a 9.64 ERA in his last five starts.
Why Blanton? For a few reasons. Take away his four worst starts this season and he has a 3.58 ERA, which is more than respectable in the American League. He went 16-12 in 2006 and 14-10 in 2007, so he has a winning track record. He also has thrown more than 194 innings each of the past three seasons, which makes him an "innings eater." But he's also intriguing because he can't become a free agent until after the 2010 season.
More to come ...
Same crap as in the past. They needed a 1/2 but they end up with a 4/5. If this is the pitching upgrade - and I'm pretty sure it is - no way they're able to make a run this season.
There's nothing wrong with that move. They gave up nothing for him. Cardenas was a moderate prospect. But he wasn't ever going to play here while Utley and Rollins are here.
Nothing spectactular, but a decent move nonetheless.
There is something wrong with this move. This is it, Joe freaking Blanton. Problem is he isn't much of an upgrade over Eaton. They needed another quality starter not an end of the rotation guy.
Loser move by a loser organization. Good thing the Mets are horrible and have no shot to win the division.
Quote from: Wingspan on July 17, 2008, 07:31:22 PM
There's nothing wrong with that move. They gave up nothing for him. Cardenas was a moderate prospect. But he wasn't ever going to play here while Utley and Rollins are here.
Nothing spectactular, but a decent move nonetheless.
youre looking at it small picture...big picture its a terrible move cause as sd said this is their pitching move for the season to win the world series
Hmmm, I don't know.
I would have preferred Aaron Cook but I don't know if he was available. But the good news is Joe Blanton is young and he is better than Adam Eaton. That's what I will use to pacify myself.
They did not give up much at all.
The other bad news, and I haven't looked it up yet, is I think this cat is a fly ball pitcher.
And at least they didn't get AJ Burnett.
QuoteJohn Marzano died from a fall
By Michael Klein
INQUIRER STAFF WRITER
Major-league catcher-turned-broadcaster John Marzano died of "postural asphyxia" sustained in a fall in his South Philadelphia apartment, the Medical Examiner's Office said today.
Jeff Moran, a spokesman for the M.E., said contributing factors in Marzano's death were blunt-force trauma and ethanol intoxication. He did not elaborate.
Marzano's widow, Terri, said this afternoon she was told that "Johnny Marz," 45, suffered injuries when he fell down the steps of his South Philadelphia apartment.
"I wear a size 7 and those steps were narrow," Marzano said, who teaches and coaches gymnastics. "They were quite a challenge."
The former ballplayer, who had started hosting a one-hour Webcast for MLB.com shortly before his death, was found in a doorway on April 19.
Marzano said she, his mother, Laura, and their daughters "have spent the last three months in complete horror and shock. We're all completely lost, scuffling around, to make sense of it. It's been especially hard on our daughters."
Dominique, 20, has a 9-month-old son, Jaden, and Danielle, 18, has a 6-month-old daughter, Ariana.
The couple had been married for 25 years, and had their ups and downs, she said. He had been living in the apartment on Passyunk Avenue but had been planning to move back to the couple's home in Washington Township, Gloucester County.
The babies had brought them closer together, she said.
John Marzano, a standout at Central High School and Temple University, was recalled as a passionate player and wisenheimer who had never forgotten his roots at 11th and Wharton Streets.
His father, John, who died in 1988, drilled his son on the fine points of the game and lived to see him play for the Boston Red Sox.
Marzano spent 10 years in the majors with the Red Sox, Texas Rangers and Seattle Mariners. He also played two years in the farm systems of the Cleveland Indians and the Phillies. He also played on the 1984 Olympic team.
After his playing days, Marzano had done postgame analysis of Phillies games on WIP (610) radio and Comcast SportsNet. He also ran a baseball academy.
"We miss him greatly," MLB.com spokesman Matt Gould said today, adding that the New York studio had been renamed in his honor. "His energy is still very much alive."
Terri Marzano said her husband was good for "100 text messages a day. I still expect to hear from him."
Dominique, 20, has a 9-month-old son, Jaden, and Danielle, 18, has a 6-month-old daughter, Ariana.
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Blanton is a #3....maybe a #2 on some teams. His numbers stink this year but he's been decent the last two, and unlike the other pitchers out there he's not a free agent until after 2010. Other than Burnett, there really wasn't anyone else available after Sabathia and Harden. Cook wasn't available.....Bedard and Oswalt are hurt....Wolf is Wolf....Maddux is finished. My reaction to this trade and what they gave up? Meh.....no more Eaton = happy.
lol @ "after sabathia and harden"....so besides the really good pitchers there werent any really good pitchers
they also could have waited closer to the deadline when presumably some other names better than fatty blanton will hit the block
i agree this is an eaton upgrade and not a terrible trade but its not going to win them the world series thus its a failure
They couldn't match Milwaukee's package for Sabathia and they didn't like the injury history of Harden. What other options are out there?
Quote from: BigEd76 on July 17, 2008, 10:01:34 PM
They couldn't match Milwaukee's package for Sabathia and they didn't like the injury history of Harden. What other options are out there?
you cant discount the top two guys and then say no one was out there...the reasons are irrelevant...once again there were and will be numerous guys better than blanton and for whatever reasons the phillies did not get them
kurkjian is on espn now talking about blanton
said he has a 6.75 era his last 8 starts but has dominated the mets and phillies twice each and that they probably looked at that
also said a scout told him his split looked real good lately
Jake Peavy is not available
Roy Halladay is not available
Cliff Lee is not available
Felix Hernandez is not available
Tim Lincecum and Matt Cain are not available
so who did you want them to get?
well id say harden or sabathia but apparently they dont count
gave up their #2 and #4 guys for a fat white guy whose a slight upgrade over adam eaton.
also what now with ja happ. hes back if there is an injury or if myers implodes. nice.
well since today has been awesome, the Mets came back from 8-6 in the 9th to win 10-8, so the Phils' lead is gone
Screw Harden's injury history. They could've had him for the same deal that they did for Blanton. The Phils will never win a WS, because they are scared and too afraid/cheap to take chances. Yes, they spend a lot, but REFUSE to go over their "set limit" each year. Meanwhile winners out there go out each year and land big-time players to give their team the best shot. Regardless if it adds a big salary to an already big payroll.
Also I would've taken Bedard(on the DL) over Blanton.
I'll take a wait and see on Blanton. He was pretty good the last three years, so maybe he'll be something valuable for them. He was actually a name some Phils fans were talking about at the deadline and off-season last year. He was rumored to be going to the Mets in the off-season as well.
My first reaction was...no more Eaton and they could have done worse. Jarrod Washburn is a guy they were talking about who I would have killed someone over if they had traded for him.
The Reds suck. Cordero is trash. I watched that game.
I don't care about Blanton as much as I do what the Phillies gave up to get him. Cardenas alone is too much but to give up Outman also is ridiculous.
Also - just wait and see... the Phillies won't pull the trigger on a longterm deal with him either because of budgetary issues.
Hate. This. Team.
He's not a free agent until after 2010. Why would you give him a long term deal?
Quote from: Rome on July 18, 2008, 08:40:11 AM
I don't care about Blanton as much as I do what the Phillies gave up to get him. Cardenas alone is too much but to give up Outman also is ridiculous.
Also - just wait and see... the Phillies won't pull the trigger on a longterm deal with him either because of budgetary issues.
Hate. This. Team.
you care more about one decent prospect whos path to the league is blocked and two bums than you do the fact that they arent going to challenge for a world series again?
And Outman sucks.
Cardenas was their best positional prospect. And who says Utley's position was blocked? Utley's eventually going to move to 1st after Howard becomes too "expensive" for them to re-sign anyway, so Cardenas simply would have slid into the second base slot.
And Outman doesn't suck either. He was their fourth rated prospect. Eventually he'll be on a Major League roster as a fourth or fifth starter.
So, basically, they gave up their best positional prospect and a fourth/fifth starter for a guy they won't probably end up re-signing to a new deal.
Yay.
Calm down, Future Munson... none of the guys traded are worth crying over. And again...Blanton is not a FA for 2+ seasons.
This is an okay move to shore up the back of the rotation.
Utley is not going to 1st.
Interesting fact:
There were 9 pitchers last year that had 220+ IP and a sub-4.00 ERA. They were: Jake Peavy, John Lackey, Brandon Webb, Dan Haren, CC Sabathia, Roy Halladay, Tim Hudson, Aaron Harang and Joe Blanton. That's 8 legitimate aces--and Blanton
Until his recent string of poor starts, he wasn't too far off those same numbers with a 4.15 ERA through his first 14 starts. He's pitched 7+ innings in 10 starts (vs. 20 total for the FOUR non-Hamels starters) and has allowed 2 ER or less in 9 starts (vs. an average of 6 for the Phillies 4 non-Hamels starters).
From what I read--this guy could be a nice find to pitch in the NL and eat up enough innings for this offense to excel
Quote from: Rome on July 18, 2008, 09:07:27 AM
Cardenas was their best positional prospect. And who says Utley's position was blocked? Utley's eventually going to move to 1st after Howard becomes too "expensive" for them to re-sign anyway, so Cardenas simply would have slid into the second base slot.
And Outman doesn't suck either. He was their fourth rated prospect. Eventually he'll be on a Major League roster as a fourth or fifth starter.
So, basically, they gave up their best positional prospect and a fourth/fifth starter for a guy they won't probably end up re-signing to a new deal.
youre going by the stupid espn ticker that had baseball americas rankings which are outdated...marson and donald have both passed cardenas...so even if they move utley and thats far from certain then donald would move up before cardenas
outman is a bum...when you cant even crack the phillies top five prospects then your future is limited...anyway he projects as a RP he has very little chance to ever crack a major league rotation
Whenever I need keen insights into the Phillies, I pray for Wingspan to contribute.
Whenever I need to know how many beers someone drank, I pray for Munson or Future Munson to tell us how drunk they got.
Quote from: reese125 on July 18, 2008, 09:15:26 AM
Until his recent string of poor starts
From what I read--this guy could be a nice find to pitch in the NL and eat up enough innings for this offense to excel
recent = his last 8 starts..and thats pitching half his games in a place where the coldest winter you spend is summer...lets see what he does in 95 degree humidity for most of his starts...him and fellow fatty myers should be fun to watch this summer sweatin like slaves
the only thing hes eating up is tony lukes
im half kidding but for real stop trying to turn this into more than what it is...they got a decent #3 or 4 starter which upgrades a slot but this isnt winning any playoff series for them if they even make the playoffs...and thats the bottom line here
I dont know why everyone thinks you need to legit aces on your team to win a championship. If you get a possible #2-3 (fat boy possibly can) starter, you can be just fine
go back the last 6 years of each championship team and look at the 1-2 pitchers. I bet it will be half and half of "legit" 1-2 aces. Add the best bullpen in baseball-you have at least a decent shot
Cardenas has done nothing to lower his prospects. He's hitting over .300 in high A ball Clearwater and remained one of, if not the TOP rated positional prospect in their system.
And Billy Beane has always been a fairly astute judge of talent in the past. I'd say that if he insisted on Outman then he must see a future for him in the Majors.
Time will tell on all accounts, though.
Quote from: Rome on July 18, 2008, 09:34:43 AM
And Billy Beane has always been a fairly astute judge of talent in the past. I'd say that if he insisted on Outman then he must see a future for him in the Majors.
does that mean blanton sucks?
and reese if the phillies win the world series with this current rotation whoever you considerd their second best starter would probably be the worst to win a title in the last 50? years...you dont need two aces but you better have a real good #2 guy and they dont have that...unless kyle kendrick is the next greg maddux and is waiting for the playoffs to show it
What it says is the A's couldn't or wouldn't pay him just like they wouldn't pay Hudson, Mulder or Zito. I'm not suggesting he's in their league talent-wise, but salary-wise he is or will be.
the As don't pay anyone
The Ghost of Charlie Finley rules!
damn eddy--7+ years and 13,855 posts later and the signature changed
well done
blanton cant become a FA until after the 2010 season and wont make a huge amount in arbitration...money had a lot less to do with this oakland deal than most of them
great paragraph from a great conlin article today...if he isnt the best writer in the country id like to know who is....
Six road games against the Marlins and Mets . . . And next Wednesday, when Brett Myers is scheduled to emerge from his odyssey through Triple A, Double A and Class A with a start in Shea Stadium, the Eagles will be in training camp. And thousands will be making the daily run up the Northeast Extension to watch the NFL version of batting practice, despite gas more expensive per gallon than jug wine. It is a psychological milestone of significance, a weigh station where bandwagons are boarded and allegiances tested. If scattered chants of E-A-G-L-E-S - EAGLES! erupt at the Bank on the next homestand, you will not need the standings to inform you the Phillies are no longer in first place.
If I participated in the ghoulpool, Conlin would be at the top of my list.
man i wish he was done and billy lyon was still writing on a weekly basis.
Cardenas is only an average fielding 2B, but he hits for a decent average and has above average speed. I've read a couple of scouting reports that say he might eventually project as an OF. Don't know if they're taking the bums current situation with Utley at second or if that's just their overall opinion. No way Cardenas or Outman were even top 5 prospects. [
Quote from: MDS on July 18, 2008, 12:07:09 PM
man i wish he was done and billy lyon was still writing on a weekly basis.
Lyon is a legend but I've always enjoyed Conlin's stuff.
lyon is local legend....conlin is national legend and will be in the baseball hall of fame one day...hes one of the best writers of all time
conlin has been done for 5 years...he's beyond awful now
every one of his columns is at worst a B-
today was an A+
His columns are angry, bitter, old-man rants that no one gives a shtein about.
more like historical field trips that contain more baseball knowledge than any of us could ever imagine...but if his sand paper like attitude hurts your feelings im sure hes sorry for it
When I'm King Of The World, you'll stop posting like a farging drama queen.
youre sad because a newspaper writer is mean and im a drama queen?
Yes, I'm sad because Bill Conlin is a miserable douchebag.
Quote from: Rome on July 18, 2008, 10:21:17 AM
The Ghost of Charlie Finley rules!
yellow baseballs baby!
I enjoy Conlin's writing. He's insufferable at times on DNL and he is not enjoyable to look at with the unkempt beard and boulders of dandruff on his shoulders...but he's a baseball guy and I enjoy reading his stuff.
I'm not going to sweat losing Cardenas nor will I blink an eye at losing Outman, who was moved to the 'pen in AA. You've gotta give to get. Blanton can be a good starter; he's done it before so let's hope he does it again.
Either way, he's better than Eaton and he will go 7 a start.
QuoteThe Phillies were recently working on a blockbuster with Colorado that would have netted them Brian Fuentes and Matt Holliday for something like Shane Victorino, J.A. Happ, Carlos Carrasco, and Lou Marson. Those talks have stalled, and the added payroll might've been a problem for the Phillies anyway.
Why couldnt they pull that kind of a deal for CC? If this went down, it would have been awful. A major league ready starter, their 2 best prospects and an above average outfielder for a relief pitcher and one of the best bats in the game? Factor in that Burrell wouldn't have been resigned and the lineup isn't all that much better next year.
Thankfully this team is cheap as balls. But obviously this is the kind of deal that puts them all-in on winning the series this year, so what the farg.
Where'd you get that from?
I don't know how I would feel about that.
Who plays CF...Werth? That means Holliday in RF. His defense is not very good.
I wondered if Holliday in RF in the ASG was a showcase by Hurdle. fargudome usually plays RF and they had him in left, right?
I just read on the Phils MB that it was Carrasco, Savery, Donald and Victorino
That sounds better. But it's great that ownership continues to nix deals because it might cost them some more money. It's not like this isn't the 4th largest media market in the country or that 80% of the games have been sellouts. farging christ I hate them.
Yep, they're cheap fargs. But if they didn't have that dead weight Eaton's deal on the books who knows what they would do....
So let's look at what that trade would do...is Holliday a FA after this year or next?
Rollins
Utley
Holliday
Howard
Burrell
Werth
Feliz
Coste/Ruiz
Gordon*
Madson
Romero
Fuentes
Lidge
King
Moyer
Kendrick
Myers
Blanton
Quote from: MDS on July 18, 2008, 05:51:01 PM
QuoteThe Phillies were recently working on a blockbuster with Colorado that would have netted them Brian Fuentes and Matt Holliday for something like Shane Victorino, J.A. Happ, Carlos Carrasco, and Lou Marson. Those talks have stalled, and the added payroll might've been a problem for the Phillies anyway.
They were just talking about Holliday and Fuentes being available on DNL so I started putting trade scenarios together in my head.
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on July 18, 2008, 05:57:26 PM
I just read on the Phils MB that it was Carrasco, Savery, Donald and Victorino
I'd do that in a heartbeat. Would hate to lose Carrasco but as long as they're not givng up Marson too I could live with that. No way Burrell is re-signed and Holliday is a better player.
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on July 18, 2008, 06:19:31 PM
Rollins
Utley
Holliday
Howard
Burrell
Werth
Feliz
Coste/Ruiz
That lineup would be scary.
Choke Doggy Dogg
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That shot was not taken at a bar in China.
Quote from: Rome on July 18, 2008, 06:46:40 PM
That shot was not taken at a bar in China.
lol
Blanton will get his first start Tuesday at Shea.
So Eaton is in the bullpen now....
Bisineus will obviously get sent down when Cookies gets put on the roster Sunday, so who goes when Myers comes back Wednesday? Since it appears they are committed to Eaton in the pen, I guess it'll be good old Rudy Seanez.
And seriously, Gee off doesn't suck anymore?
Jenkins is ballin tonight...RBI single, diving catch and a farging bomb.
In other news, Carlos Ruiz continues to blow.
Ruiz is the reason the club values Marson so much.
I hope they bring Moyer back next season. I'm pretty sure he could pitch till he was 50.
Whenever he's done he needs to slide on over to the pitching coach spot.
i would trade every player from clearwater on up to get holliday
did mds really use as a reason not to get holliday because pat burrell wouldnt resign....lol
people need to remember that just because carrasco is their best prospect doesnt mean that hes that great of a chip...hes projected as a #3 starter
and phreak if you wanna go double or nothing on our myers bet ill bet that blanton goes less than 7 inn more than he goes 7+ this year
Quotei would trade every player from clearwater on up to get holliday
I agree completely with this.
both burrell and holliday are free agents after this year. so logically the phillies are only going to keep one.
basically you want to give away the farm for a half a season of a unreal lineup, then over-paying holliday when burrell basically gives you the same production, when of course the biggest weakness continues to be on the mound?
Quote from: MDS on July 19, 2008, 11:21:30 AM
both burrell and holliday are free agents after this year. so logically the phillies are only going to keep one.
if they didnt get holliday they shouldnt resign burrell
Quote from: MDS on July 19, 2008, 11:21:30 AM
basically you want to give away the farm for a half a season of a unreal lineup, then over-paying holliday when burrell basically gives you the same production, when of course the biggest weakness continues to be on the mound?
their farm sucks so yes id give it away for holliday....even tho hes missed like 20 games holliday has equal numbers to burrell this year and hits like 60 pts higher...plus he can field and run...you equating those two players is unbelievably outrageous
Quote from: ice grillin you on July 19, 2008, 09:01:54 AM
i would trade every player from clearwater on up to get holliday
did mds really use as a reason not to get holliday because pat burrell wouldnt resign....lol
people need to remember that just because carrasco is their best prospect doesnt mean that hes that great of a chip...hes projected as a #3 starter
and phreak if you wanna go double or nothing on our myers bet ill bet that blanton goes less than 7 inn more than he goes 7+ this year
I'm tempted. But I may end up losing because it's the NL and they use PH's here and because Charlie has lapses at times and doesnt do what should be done.
Holliday's fielding is not hat good, igy.
he hits 3rd, burrell hits 5th behind two outstanding run producers and gets taken out of every game in the 7th inning because his manager is an idiot. theres your reason why their equal.
and yes, hollidays road splits indicate he isnt the same kind of player away from coors.
holliday will command a fargload of money after this season. money that phillies ownership doesnt need to be spending on a left fielder when burrell is doing what hes doing and there is a giant, gaping hole in the rotation and guys like sheets and sabathia on the market.
id much rather have burrell and sabathia than holliday and another adam eaton clone.
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on July 19, 2008, 11:53:01 AM
Holliday's fielding is not hat good, igy.
who said it was
hes like utley
passable
where as burrell is a travesty and cant get to any balls
Quote from: MDS on July 19, 2008, 11:56:04 AM
id much rather have burrell and sabathia than holliday and another adam eaton clone.
well thats a legitimate argument altho not very realistic...all im saying is dont compare holliday to burrell cause theyarent even on the same planet as offensive players
after this year is done holliday will have already had three years easily better than burrellls best career year...the two players arent even on the same planet and holliday is just hitting his prime...burrell belongs as a dh in the AL
its a waste of time to even discuss cause theres about a 3% chance the phillies would ever get someone as good as holliday but holy shtein a man can dream
Holliday isn't a FA until after 2009, his agent is Boras, and like todd said, his numbers away from Coors aren't as great
I'd take him, sure. But he's far from a savior.
But it doesn't matter...because Adam Eaton says they're winning the whole thing!!
QuotePhils' Eaton takes move to pen in stride
By Jim Salisbury
Inquirer Staff Writer
MIAMI - Adam Eaton took the news well. After racking up a 6.06 ERA in 49 starts over the last two seasons with the Phillies, he really couldn't protest the team's decision to bounce him from the rotation.
"I understand it," the righthander said in the visitors' clubhouse at Dolphin Stadium last night before the Phillies resumed business after the all-star break.
Eaton became the odd man out when the Phils acquired righthander Joe Blanton in a trade with Oakland on Thursday. Blanton will join the team tomorrow and likely make his National League debut Tuesday against the Mets in New York.
Brett Myers is expected to return from the minors and start against the Mets on Wednesday. Myers pitched for single-A Clearwater last night and took the loss while allowing two earned runs over 62/3 innings.
Signing Eaton to a three-year, $24.5 million contract before the 2007 season has proved to be a costly mistake for the Phillies. He is making $7.6 million this season, a hefty paycheck for a long reliever, and the team still owes him $9 million for next season.
Eaton, 30, would have lost his job in spring training had anyone stepped up and taken it. In recent weeks, the Phils had hoped to replace him with a high-end starter such as CC Sabathia, but they couldn't match the offer Milwaukee used to pry the lefthander away from Cleveland earlier this month.
The urgency to replace Eaton grew over the last few weeks as he recorded a 9.64 ERA in his last five starts and was rocked for 17 hits and 14 earned runs over 61/3 innings in his last two. Those two starts caused Phillies officials to step up their pursuit of pitching, and that resulted in Blanton.
"He's mentally tough, he likes to pitch, he eats innings, and he's durable," manager Charlie Manuel said. "Our people think he can help us."
Blanton, 27, ranked third in the American League in innings pitched (7522/3) the last 31/2 seasons - from 2005 to this all-star break. He had 12, 16 and 14 wins, respectively, from 2005 to 2007. He was 5-12 with a 4.96 ERA in 20 starts this season. One of his wins came when he pitched seven innings and allowed just a run against the Phillies on June 24.
The Phils hope Blanton can have an impact similar to that of Kyle Lohse, last season's stretch-drive acquisition. Lohse was 6-12 with Cincinnati. He started 11 games with the Phillies and the club was victorious in nine of them.
Pitching coach Rich Dubee described Blanton as "a strike thrower."
"He attacks the strike zone and he commands his stuff pretty well," Dubee said. "I think he can be a piece to help us get into the playoffs and further on. Maybe a change of scenery can help."
Blanton has not been officially added to the active roster, so the Phillies didn't have to subtract a player from the team before last night's game against Florida.
They entered last night with the best bullpen ERA (2.77) in the majors. Eaton has pitched only twice as a reliever in his nine-year career, and his work could be inconsistent.
Can he right himself as a long man?
"We hope," Dubee said. "We hope."
"I'll do anything to help the team," Eaton said. "I'd like to be a starter, don't get me wrong, but it's not up to me. I'm on one of the best teams in the big leagues. We're going to win this thing, and I want to be on it when we do."
QuoteSomething brewin'?
The Phillies still are looking for relief help and possibly a hitter, though it remains to be seen what they can pull off with their thin farm system, which lost two top prospects (second baseman Adrian Cardenas and pitcher Josh Outman) in Thursday's trade for pitcher Joe Blanton.
The Rockies are dangling lefthander Brian Fuentes - at a very high price. It's worth noting that the Rockies had a scout watching double-A righthander Carlos Carrasco, the Phillies' top pitching prospect, last night in Bowie, Md. Phillies scout Charley Kerfeld, one of general manager Pat Gillick's top lieutenants, was at the game, checking out Carrasco. The Rockies also are considering trading all-star outfielder Matt Holliday
I don't see the point of trading for Brian Fuentes. The Phillies already have the best bullpen in the business. If you're going to give up a blue chip prospect like Carrasco, you package him for a superstar, not a reliever (although Fuentes is a pretty damn good one).
It just seems like the Phillies have given up any hope of landing an ace starter, so instead they've resolved to make the bullpen as bulletproof as possible.
Whatever, though.
Go Eagles.
i wouldn't hate it...the bullpen has shown signs of cracking lately. gordon is a mess and romero is their only lefty. so fuentes would solve a few problems
He'd come to Philly and then fall to pieces like a K-Mart suit.
you can buy suits at K-mart?
Quote from: Rome on July 19, 2008, 12:35:02 PM
I don't see the point of trading for Brian Fuentes. The Phillies already have the best bullpen in the business. If you're going to give up a blue chip prospect like Carrasco, you package him for a superstar, not a reliever (although Fuentes is a pretty damn good one).
It just seems like the Phillies have given up any hope of landing an ace starter, so instead they've resolved to make the bullpen as bulletproof as possible.
Whatever, though.
Go Eagles.
I don't necessarily see that as a bad thing though, Jef.
There aren't too many stud starters to be had, so the next best thing is to have a lock-down 'pen. You know Kendrick and Moyer are good for 6. That leaves them with Madson, Romero, Durbin, Fuentes and Lidge to close it out on those days. I like those odds. Especially with this offense.
King can give you 7-9 strong.
It's on my boy Myers to come back ready and Blanton to give them 6-7 strong.
Tighten up the bullpen with another lefty and get a solid bat to use off the bench and I'm happy.
DFA Eaton and DFA So and be done with it.
Quote from: Rome on July 19, 2008, 12:35:02 PM
I don't see the point of trading for Brian Fuentes. The Phillies already have the best bullpen in the business. If you're going to give up a blue chip prospect like Carrasco, you package him for a superstar, not a reliever (although Fuentes is a pretty damn good one).
Carrasco for Fuentes I don't do. Carrasco/Victorino/Savery/Donald for Fuentes and Holliday I do in a heartbeat. You'd have the best lineup in the league and maybe the top bullpen. Postseasons all about starting pitching but a good lineup and bullpen can makeup for some of that.
Right - the trade for Holliday & Fuentes is a no-brainer. I actually laughed out loud when I read some of the anti-Holliday comments that were posted earlier in this thread.
Stoopid.
Quote from: MDS on July 19, 2008, 11:56:04 AM
and yes, hollidays road splits indicate he isnt the same kind of player away from coors.
and yet his numbers away from coors compare favorably to burrell at home
holliday last year on the road
.301
11 hr
55 rbi
22 2b
53 runs
burrell last year at HOME
.295
16 hr
60 rbi
18 2b
41 runs
even with burrell having the advantage of playing at the bank hollidays numbers are equivalent...then of course holliday at home vs burrell anywhere just absolutely murders pat...in other words holliday is so much better than burrell its not even funny...in fact you can make a strong argument that holliday is the best offensive player in the national league
Kendrick got torched today.
Phils were up 1-0 then went down 3-1. Came back and tied it at 3 and then immediately went down 4-3. Came back and tied it at 4 and then went down 7-4 (which is where they are now).
All this and I can't watch the game because they're in Florida (300 miles away) and not on television because the world would stop spinning if the Red Sox weren't on television on Saturday.
Quote from: Rome on July 19, 2008, 06:22:54 PM
All this and I can't watch the game because they're in Florida (300 miles away) and not on television because the world would stop spinning if the Red Sox weren't on television on Saturday.
lol...this is funny
and at the same time makes me sad because its so true
I might be better off anyway. It's 9-4 now thanks to Rudy SeANez.
I had to order the spanish channel line-up to watch this crap. Its on Fox Sports Espanol.
Way to piss it away, assfargs.
The 2nd inning was really nice. Score one run and have two guys hosed at the plate because no one can get the ball out of the farging infield.
Booooooo.
Burrell hit a rocket to make it 9-5. Bottom of the eight, though.
And they have a chance to tie it on a slam but Howard just misses crushing a fastball, then K's on a fastball down the middle because he was looking for a off-speed pitch and couldn't catch up to 96.
Burrell grounds out weakly; ballgame.
Let's go Reds.
you know getting texted score updates doesnt have the same luster as being in the dark until i come back here for 2 pages of whiney phillies fans posts.
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on July 19, 2008, 07:14:11 PM
And they have a chance to tie it on a slam but Howard just misses crushing a fastball, then K's on a fastball down the middle because he was looking for a off-speed pitch and couldn't catch up to 96.
Burrell grounds out weakly; ballgame.
Let's go Reds.
The Reds say, "You're welcome."
choke is rbi machine
thank god king doesnt give up a lot of baserunners cause hes luuuuuuuvs giving up home runs
When's the last time after the All-Star break that three of the top four home run hitters in the Majors have been on the same team? Not a trivia question, I'm legitimately asking.
Blacked out again today.
I seriously hope Bud Selig contracts a horribly disfiguring terminal disease. And soon.
only three batters so far have seen more than three pitches from king...pretty sick
anyone else happy when gee off hurt himself?
I think I've seen him pitch twice this year. Every time he's scheduled something comes up or the game gets blacked out. It's really weird. I couldn't go out to a bar in this condition anyway, but still, why am I paying all this money to MLB if I can't watch the games I want?
Quote from: Rome on July 20, 2008, 02:44:17 PM
I think I've seen him pitch twice this year. Every time he's scheduled something comes up or the game gets blacked out. It's really weird. I couldn't go out to a bar in this condition anyway, but still, why am I paying all this money to MLB if I can't watch the games I want?
Rome, I have it on SunSports. If you have DirectTV, it's on channel 632.
oh yeah its a free preview on the extra innings package this week
I have Bright House cable and it's blacked out. Trust me.
hooray for king run support
Quote from: Rome on July 20, 2008, 03:05:55 PM
I have Bright House cable and it's blacked out. Trust me.
Sucks to be you.
On the bright side, you didn't just see the Marlins tie the game in the 8th on a Ross home run.
The Phils blew so many chances today, and it's going to bite them in the hindquarters.
king is done....he needs to do something about his gopher ball propensity...wont win today and they dont have him vs the mets while ny goes with the top of their rotation this week
on the bright side i like the beard....makes him look like less of a so cal douchebag
a guy hit a high outside fastball 390 feet the other way. sometimes you just got to give it up.
Quote from: MDS on July 20, 2008, 03:11:59 PM
a guy hit a high outside fastball 390 feet the other way. sometimes you just got to give it up.
or sometimes you gotta buckle down and finish the job...granted the offense has come up small but once you get to where king was your ace has to seal the deal
it doesnt help when you have choke at first and his inability to throw to second when they got a guy picked off.
and king is pitching fine, dooks. you be drinkin too much haterade these days
You clowns need to stop watching Wire reruns.
i didnt say he wasnt fine...hes more than fine hes a legit #1...but the bottom line is if thats your rank then you gotta finish the job like a sabathia does
another added bonus...my fanbtasy score was igy down by two before ross' homer to up by one after ross' homer....holla
Quoteit doesnt help when you have choke at first and his inability to throw to second when they got a guy picked off.
guys been throwing a baseball since he was 7yrs old... and he still cant figure out how to throw to farging 2nd base
some people were born to be a dh
i think id rather eat my own shtein than start carlos ruiz another game at catcher
say hello to third place by the end of the mets series
yea cookies trash and the old man doesnt bode well. what the farg pull that holliday trade why not.
3-way tie for 1st place if the Marlins beat the Braves tomorrow night
but they get Zambrano/Dempster/Harden/Marquis next weekend at Wrigley
Blanton/Santana
Myers/Maine
Moyer/Perez (noon start)
yea I feel great about this one
Quote from: BigEd76 on July 20, 2008, 04:59:08 PM
Blanton/Santana
Myers/Maine
Moyer/Perez (noon start)
L
L
toss up
Quote from: BigEd76 on July 20, 2008, 04:59:08 PM
3-way tie for 1st place if the Marlins beat the Braves tomorrow night
but they get Zambrano/Dempster/Harden/Marquis next weekend at Wrigley
Blanton/Santana
Myers/Maine
Moyer/Perez (noon start)
yea I feel great about this one
1. Blanton could get the new team surge, and Santana has been somewhat human this month. Still have to go with Santana. - L
2. Maine has been nearly as bad as Myers since June 1, has has a 6+ ERA in July. - Toss up
3. Moyer has been stellar, but Perez has been sparkling in July. Still lean toward the more consistent Moyer. - W
perez is a mortal lock against the phillies...much more so than santana
Quote from: ice grillin you on July 20, 2008, 07:44:47 PM
perez is a mortal lock against the phillies...much more so than santana
yup...and they never hit Maine. I think their best bet is against Santana.
Freakin bums. That Holliday trade is looking more and more like a good idea.
Colorado is talking to the Angels about Holliday and they want the guys the Angels wouldn't give up for Miguel Cabrera
Quote from: ice grillin you on July 20, 2008, 07:44:47 PM
perez is a mortal lock against the phillies...much more so than santana
This year that's been true, but Perez' ERA was over 5 against the Phils last year, and he can be dominating or batted around the ballpark from start to start. And Moyer, his age notwithstanding, has been money this year, and especially in the last month.
Quote from: SD_Eagle on July 20, 2008, 08:18:53 PM
yup...and they never hit Maine. I think their best bet is against Santana.
Freakin bums. That Holliday trade is looking more and more like a good idea.
Maine has just been god-awful. His saving grace this week is the Phils' spectacularly inconsistent offense, and the fact he's going up agianst Brett Myers.
If the best shot is against Santana, the Phils would be in deep shtein. I don't believe that the case, but they are in some trouble anyway just from being the Phillies.
king pitching today is the phillies being the phillies
how much better would
blanton/santana
moyer/maine
hamels/perez
have looked
it's because it was so simple to accomplish that makes them so inept. he pitched last Sunday. him pitching Friday would've been right on schedule, but they think they are being smart by pushing him 2 whole days. what, do they think they are saving him innings by bumping him 2 games?
its really beyond comprehension and only easy could give it any sort of justification
i don't think Easy has one in his bag of tricks for this
nope. I think it's stupid too
his arm was tired so they wanted to give him more time off. there.
I hate that fag Cody Ross.
I hate this faggy team even more. Way to come out of the break, asshats.
Quote"We're not hitting the baseball," Manuel said. "Our situational hitting is absolutely terrible. Off the chart, really. The guys might be trying too hard, and it seems like when you remind them to make sure you get [the runner] over, all of a sudden, they don't do it."
Manuel went on.
"Also, we strike out a lot," the skipper said. "People don't realize, we have a different lineup than we had last year. We have different people. And just one guy makes a difference. It's called execution, and hitting the ball in the right place. When we don't do that, it's going to be hard for us to win."
Though Manuel didn't say Aaron Rowand by name, his right-handed bat was a steady force for last year's team, which lead the NL in runs scored. They're second this year, but have struggled since scoring 20 runs on June 13 against St. Louis.
Maybe this is a plea to Gillick to go for Holliday
Quote from: BigEd76 on July 20, 2008, 08:30:50 PM
Colorado is talking to the Angels about Holliday and they want the guys the Angels wouldn't give up for Miguel Cabrera
Bums can't compete with the Angels in that sweepstakes.
He needs to go batshtein crazy. Both on the team for their inability to do the right things and for not hustling and giving a shtein and on the GMs to get him some farging help.
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on July 20, 2008, 10:54:50 PMI hate that fag Cody Ross.
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Straight out of central casting for a re-make of the Rudolph cartoon.
He's got a face that needs a beatin'
QuoteThis is from Jim Salisbury's story, posted on philly.com:
"... Charlie Manuel is frustrated with his team's offense, and he let it be known after the Phillies wasted a golden effort from ace Cole Hamels in losing, 3-2, in 11 innings to the Florida Marlins today.
"'We get pitching like that, we've got to win,' an exasperated Manuel said after Hamels allowed just four hits, two of which were home runs, over eight innings.
"Sitting behind a desk in the visiting manager's office at Dolphin Stadium, Manuel flicked a few jabs at his team's offense, then delivered a haymaker.
"'Our situational hitting is absolutely terrible," he said. "Absolutely off the chart, really.'"
Manuel continued:
"'It's going to be hard for us to win' if situational hitting does not improve, Manuel said. '[On Saturday], we hit all those balls down to third base in one inning - absolutely bad hitting. I'm not trying to hurt anybody's feelings, but if I do, if I'm talking about you, that's good. I mean to be talking about you.
"'We hit enough. We talk enough [about situational hitting]. We've got to get it done. A lot of it is me. It's up to me to make us try to get it done.
"'Accountability is fine, but if you don't execute, something's wrong.'"
And then even more:
"'I hear everybody [praise] our lineup, but evidently they don't really evaluate our lineup right,' he said. 'It's not like I'm throwing anybody under the bus, because I'm not. It's about our team. I'm included in that.'"
Manuel, Salisbury wrote, "also made a point to say that this year's lineup is different than last year's."
And then Salisbury reported this disappointing comment from the so-called team leader:
"'He's pretty much right, but we'll get out of it,' Rollins said. 'We don't get concerned until late. Coaches do that now. We go play.'"
More of that it's early talk.
SHUT UP AND PLAY BALL
Jimmy's woe-is-me it's alright attitude is running a strong 1/6. good for him and his disappointing season.
Quote"I'm upset, absolutely," Burrell said. "I'm upset, and I have been for a long time. It's not personal. I don't want to ever come out of close games."
So it took you like 2 years to admit you think Manuel's stupid strategy is stupid? God damn cokehead.
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Nice cans
uuuuhh...edit that with a link please..
some of us have jobs we'd like to keep
NICE
whats this white stuff coming out of my wee-wee?
Quote from: BigEd76 on July 20, 2008, 11:23:20 PM
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on July 20, 2008, 10:54:50 PMI hate that fag Cody Ross.
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I saw that the other night on the Marlins broadcast. If I were Ross I'd sue the organization's ass for that shot. Looks like something from my son's preschool xmas pageant.
At the risk of sounding a little gay, I'd sort of like to see her face in at least ONE shot. I know I know. Gay.
Probably, yeah.
I'd like to see her take her pants off.
The originals are here (http://flickr.com/photos/9199473@N06/sets/72157600585083232/). I think she's got the same model painted up as a cowgirl. Her pants are painted on in those, and you can see a tiny bit more of her face.
Olney mentioned on BBTN that Arthur Rhodes was a possibility.
No. No way.
farg Verizon Fios. Damn cable is out so I can't watch the game. farg em.
shtein--what location SD?
Quote from: reese125 on July 22, 2008, 07:15:37 PM
shtein--what location SD?
Warminster
There's an outage, approx. up time is 1:18 AM. farg them, I should have stuck with Comcast.
Comcast > Osama Bin Laden
And of all games the bums pick this one to hit Santana early. 1-0
Cookies' cankles look hot in those high socks.
3-1 to victorino and he pops up to short...i hate his offensive game
i was just thinking how much culture shock fatty blanton must be in right now...hes pitching his whole career on the awful milquetoast west coast in front of 10k everygame and the next thing he knows hes pitching in a fierce northeast sports rivalry for a team with the toughest sports fans in the world...welcome to the big time dunn
pat burrell's defense sucks take him out for bruntlett
holy shtein he hit a cutoff man resign him
btw the only reason there was even a play at home is because it takes burrell a day and a half to get into the corner to retrieve the ball...but perhaps thats his game...play possum then bang the guy out at home
heat exhaustion is starting to overwhelm fatty
cookies needs his cookies.
igy needs a burrell vorp sandwich.
yeah, Burrell definitely should've cut off that line drive down the line...he sucks
he doesnt suck he just cant move and is a dh
i don't see a ton of leftfielders out there that would win a sprint
now now havas had a healthy share of haterade this mornin and hes just blowin off some steam
I swear, I want to root for this team, and I want them to win, but when they pull these yearly trainwreck stretches I just want them to lose. Tough love kinda thing. They have to realize that their way of doing business just doesn't win championships.
manuel needs to go so badly...they need to get a real manager in here who wont let douchebags like shane victorino run the clubhouse...get a real leader in there and see what happens...it worked for the mets in getting rid of randolph...the phillies need to try the same thing...if that doesnt work then start overhauling shtein this offseason...this team needs either a mental break up or a physical one because even tho they have players that can win the team as a whole doesnt have that championship make up for whatever reason...start with manuel and see where that gets you...
its manuels fault jimmy rollins is grossly underpeforming and that myers, eaton and cookies are in his rotation.
if youre gonna cliche it up at least say it right "the manager doesnt hit and catch"
and neither did willie randolph
i love you like a son but this aint manuels fault. firing him aint gonna do shtein.
Florida's winning, by the way.
3rd. Place. Soon.
How many more days until Eagles training camp starts?
Oh, wait. . .
He's SO farging Taguchi.
So...
Bums now up 7-5! 5 run 9th.
IN OTHER NEWS farg YOU VERIZON!
I love it when the Mets farging collapse.
:-D
Feliciano playing hot potato.
:-D
8-5 lol
Quote from: Rome on July 22, 2008, 10:02:30 PM
I love it when the Mets farging collapse.
:-D
Even more when it's against the Phils. There's still the bottom of the 9th to blow it though. :yay
Quote from: Eagles_Legendz on July 22, 2008, 10:09:56 PM
Quote from: Rome on July 22, 2008, 10:02:30 PM
I love it when the Mets farging collapse.
:-D
Even more when it's against the Phils. There's still the bottom of the 9th to blow it though. :yay
BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
Quote from: Geowhizzer on July 22, 2008, 10:19:00 PM
Quote from: Eagles_Legendz on July 22, 2008, 10:09:56 PM
Quote from: Rome on July 22, 2008, 10:02:30 PM
I love it when the Mets farging collapse.
:-D
Even more when it's against the Phils. There's still the bottom of the 9th to blow it though. :yay
BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
Sorry, Geo, just had to say what everyone else is thinking.
1 more out please.
Lidge ties a club record with his 22nd consecutive save
Bums win. Bums win. Bums win.
farg the Mets.
Holy smoke, I thought the Phils had no chance in this game after about the 5th inning, when Santana was up 5-1.
nICE WIN ;D
Funny how ESPN is talking about how the Mets would have loved to have had Wagner in there tonight.
Have they SEEN him blow those games all year long? :-D
FIRE MANUEL
Jerry?
no really, fire him. hes fat.
The blown call on Delgado was atrocious. He swung at that ball.
Although Utley not coming up with that ball also contributed to that inning as well. He did make amends later in the game though.
Burrell played a solid game.
Victorino has taken on Jimmy Rollins' uppercut shoot for the fences swing. But his hustle to 2nd caused that dancing fag Reyes to rush and miss the base. Great hustle there.
So's AB was a thing of beauty. Slap at balls and get a pitch to hit. Looked like Iguchi's ABs last year. Those Japs know how to handle the bats. He was helped by Endy playing so shallow too.
Hernandez on the Mets broadcast was pointing out how So was 0-16 as a PH and how Endy was too shallow and both bit them in the ass.
I didn't think Blanton looked horrible at all. He was fine minus the Delgado HR, which he should have had a K anyways.
Hey SD, thanks to a free preview of MLB extra innings, I was even able to watch the game. Both feeds too.
It wasn't a total loss I got to see the highlights this morning
Jimy Williams isn't the answer either, by the way.
neither was jerry manuel
at least jimmy williams is a competant tactician so even if the attitudes and approach of the players dont change at the very least you get a good dugout guy...and who cares they are going nowhere with charlie...lets see what a shake up does...if it doesnt work and the players dont respond then its time to shake up the roster in the offseason...and maybe thats the answer anyway...but lets start with the manager and see whats up because you cant significantly change a roster mid season like you can with a manager
It's kind of hard to can the manager when the team's in first place and they all like him.
they liking him is part of the problem....i agree about the first place part...but sometimes you gotta make a bold move to try and win a title...thinking the phillies would do something bold is probably where im going way wrong
I think the bold move they needed to win the title was more in regards to the on-field personnel.
As they're rocking Joe Blanton and not C.C. Sabathia, I think we're too late on that front also.
they just signed manuel to that extension. there is a 0% chance he gets fired.
no shtein hick lover
Let's keep arguing about something that will not happen.
hi, i'm the internet. have we met?
lets play more season ticket waiting list games
anyone else here like pooping?
i love making stinkies
i made a loch ness monster yesterday
I'll bet Charlie Manuel spent at least one inning after his ejection on the crapper.
I had breakfast in NYC this morning at what I am going to assume was the Phillies hotel because I sat next to Charlie and his gross wifey, then saw Lidge and Jenkins walk in as I left.
I told Charlie he broke my heart last night but all I got was an inaudible grunt.
Quote from: Die-Hard on July 23, 2008, 12:21:05 PM
I had breakfast in NYC this morning at what I am going to assume was the Phillies hotel because I sat next to Charlie and his gross wifey, then saw Lidge and Jenkins walk in as I left.
I told Charlie he broke my heart last night but all I got was an inaudible grunt.
An inaudible grunt is better than your Manuel...taking absolutely zero blame for his ridiculous call to the BP last night. :yay
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Quote from: PhillyGirl on July 23, 2008, 12:33:53 PM
Quote from: Die-Hard on July 23, 2008, 12:21:05 PM
I had breakfast in NYC this morning at what I am going to assume was the Phillies hotel because I sat next to Charlie and his gross wifey, then saw Lidge and Jenkins walk in as I left.
I told Charlie he broke my heart last night but all I got was an inaudible grunt.
An inaudible grunt is better than your Manuel...taking absolutely zero blame for his ridiculous call to the BP last night. :yay
Good one! ;D :yay
The Pittsburgh Post-Gazette reports the Phillies have entered the discussions to trade for corner outfielder Xavier Nady and reliver Damaso Marte.
Nady would likely play right field for the Phillies on an every day basis. Nady is hitting .328 with 12 homers and 56 RBI. This would be a welcomed addition for Charlie Manuel who speaks often of 'hitting season' and could use another strong bad from the right side. This would strengthen the bench by having Jayson Werth and Geoff Jenkins on the bench.
Marte could be the lefty reliever Pat Gillick is seeking. This year, Marte is 4-0 with a 3.55 ERA. He would join JC Romero as the only southpaws in the bullpen. Marte won a World Series in 2005 when he was with the Chicago White Sox which adds critical experience in the postseason.
UPDATED (4:13 pm)
Ken Rosenthal of Fox Sports confirms the Phillies' interest in Nady.
I'd take Nady and Marte but wouldn't give up Carrasco or Marson in any deal to get them.
Quote from: SD_Eagle on July 23, 2008, 04:44:48 PM
I'd take Nady and Marte but wouldn't give up Carrasco or Marson in any deal to get them.
lol
Quote from: SD_Eagle on July 23, 2008, 04:44:48 PM
I'd take Nady and Marte but wouldn't give up Carrasco or Marson in any deal to get them.
Really? Why?
Nady is having an okay season but overall he's an average outfielder and doesn't hit for much power. Don't really see how he's much of an upgrade of what's already out there.
Marte would be help in the BP l but I wouldn't give up a possible starting pitcher or starting catcher for him.
Charlie was probably angry that they didn't serve grits in NYC swank hotels.
Nady and Marte...not too shabby. Can't get Hollidy and Fuentes, move on to the next RH bat and LH pitcher.
I hope my boy comes out tonight and does well. Huge game tonight.
nady would be a nice little fit. werth would still have to get in there against lhp, but that would now give you a key rh and lh bat off the bench. marte i feel like theyve been targeting for 3 years.
im down so long as its not for marson and only one of happ/corrasco. hell, let it be straight up for hacktorino.
nady is a full time player you dont aquire him to platoon with werth
Quote from: ice grillin you on July 23, 2008, 06:53:51 PM
nady is a full time player you dont aquire him to platoon with werth
Nady has never played more than 125 games in a season, and last year was his first with more than 400 ABs (edit: he had 431) and he's been in MLB since 2001.
"nady" is one letter off of "nads" but also one off "lady"
Pass.
Cy Maine, FTL again
Quote from: Geowhizzer on July 23, 2008, 07:12:21 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on July 23, 2008, 06:53:51 PM
nady is a full time player you dont aquire him to platoon with werth
Nady has never played more than 125 games in a season, and last year was his first with more than 400 ABs (edit: he had 431) and he's been in MLB since 2001.
im talking about this year...you dont give up top prospects to get a platoon player...not to mention you dont platoon a RH hitter (nady) with a RH hitter (werth)
myers still cannot come even close to locating his fastball...its ridiculous
Quote from: ice grillin you on July 23, 2008, 07:20:39 PM
Quote from: Geowhizzer on July 23, 2008, 07:12:21 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on July 23, 2008, 06:53:51 PM
nady is a full time player you dont aquire him to platoon with werth
Nady has never played more than 125 games in a season, and last year was his first with more than 400 ABs (edit: he had 431) and he's been in MLB since 2001.
im talking about this year...you dont give up top prospects to get a platoon player...not to mention you dont platoon a RH hitter (nady) with a RH hitter (werth)
I don't believe that the Phils should give top prospects for those two at all. Nady & Marte are ok, but not worth the top two prospects, even with the Phils' weak system.
Nice to have Brett back. :boo
this is like watching your sister being raped
id give up one of their top guys in a package if it brought nady and marte
wow what a boneheaded swing by beltran
Quote from: SunMo on July 23, 2008, 07:28:54 PM
this is like watching your sister being raped
FTW
that pitch showed what little confidence he has in his fastball right now...its just a disgrace
Time to put this one to sleep. He's lost it.
They should've never brought him back up to begin with. He wasn't good in the minors. Myers sucks, and Happ was pitching fine. Just another bad move by a bad organization.
Myers = momentum killer.
Don't look now, but myers has a no hitter going through 1
someone on the team finally took some pitches...and of all people its dummy shane...good at bat
Luckily Myers>Maine.
myers makes me :'(
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the best thing that can happen for the phils right now is a 100 minute rain delay
Good call sending Ruiz on the steal there. Now Brett gets to lead off the 3rd.
If that was Ruiz' decision, he needs to be deported immediately. Who the farg steals with 2 outs and the pitcher up? cx
Quote from: Wingspan on July 23, 2008, 07:42:08 PM
the best thing that can happen for the phils right now is chuckles getting ejected again
Charlie's dumb, but not that dumb.
Ruiz is a stone cold retard.
WTF?!?! Come on, have some brains icehole.
Quote from: Eagles_Legendz on July 23, 2008, 07:42:53 PM
If that was Ruiz' decision, he needs to be deported immediately.
Preferably, to Ugie Urbina's farm.
im trying to think of something i wouldnt do to marry erin andrews
It was strike three, ladies. Calm down.
Quote from: ice grillin you on July 23, 2008, 07:46:02 PM
im trying to think of something i wouldnt do to marry erin andrews
kill Halle Berry?
burn your copy of "Angel Heart"?
go to work for the McCain campaign?
farging harsh play by Jimmy there
OMGinningseater!
Quote from: Rome on July 23, 2008, 07:46:19 PM
It was strike three, ladies. Calm down.
so he took off after the strike was called?
Quote from: Rome on July 23, 2008, 07:46:19 PM
It was strike three, ladies. Calm down.
Wait, the announcers were wrong that Myers will be leading off? I feel so violated.
Quote from: Rome on July 23, 2008, 07:47:58 PM
OMGinningseater!
FEAR JOE BLANTON
Quote from: ice grillin you on July 23, 2008, 07:46:02 PM
im trying to think of something i wouldnt do to marry erin andrews
Go trick or treating in North Philly wearing this:
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Quote from: ice grillin you on July 23, 2008, 07:48:49 PM
Quote from: Rome on July 23, 2008, 07:46:19 PM
It was strike three, ladies. Calm down.
so he took off after the strike was called?
Seems like the type of thing Ruiz would do.
If it was possible he'd get thrown out trying to steal after ball four.
of course jimmy swings at the first pitch....what an icehole
Quote from: ice grillin you on July 23, 2008, 06:53:51 PM
nady is a full time player you dont aquire him to platoon with werth
i meant with hacktorino. werth is way to productive against lhp to sit on the bench.
C'mon, dawg!
Howards going to hit a bomb here. Wait and see. . .
"When Howard puts a ball into play, he's hitting .581."
What in the hell?
Quote from: MDS on July 23, 2008, 07:55:57 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on July 23, 2008, 06:53:51 PM
nady is a full time player you dont aquire him to platoon with werth
i meant with hacktorino. werth is way to productive against lhp to sit on the bench.
no
Quote from: Rome on July 23, 2008, 07:56:34 PM
Howards going to hit a bomb here. Wait and see. . .
Still waiting.
He almost knocked Wright on his ass. At short.
Burrell and Howard both hit the ball really hard that inning. That and 5 dollars will buy you a night with Deanna Favre.
BTW: Did you guys hear the stat about when Howard actually puts the ball in play he's hitting .581.
Good thing strikeouts are overrated.
Quote from: ice grillin you on July 23, 2008, 07:59:09 PM
Quote from: MDS on July 23, 2008, 07:55:57 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on July 23, 2008, 06:53:51 PM
nady is a full time player you dont aquire him to platoon with werth
i meant with hacktorino. werth is way to productive against lhp to sit on the bench.
no
doesnt make an out just under 40% of the time, ops over 1000 = yes
Quote from: FastFreddie on July 23, 2008, 07:58:20 PM
"When Howard puts a ball into play, he's hitting .581."
What in the hell?
Quote from: Rome on July 23, 2008, 08:01:15 PM
BTW: Did you guys hear the stat about when Howard actually puts the ball in play he's hitting .581.
Good thing strikeouts are overrated.
Darwin Walker's thigh
Omar Gaither's bubble
Luis Castillo's contract
Last page, dickwad.
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Bruce Pearl loves him some Erin Andrews.
It's sort of on topic.
i'm 95% sure that's not Erin Andrews
That photo makes me sad.
And angry.
And bitter.
And... a little horny, actually.
Are these Erin Andrews?
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Well, there went Myers' no hitter.
marlin andersen sux
Way to be, wifebeater.
I'm rooting for the Phils to be one run down going into the 9th (http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=3502594)
QuoteWagner, who turns 37 on Friday, said doctors told him that the problem in his shoulder was simply a result of throwing hard his entire career.
Four years of college, four years of medical school, plus two years (minimum) internship before they can practice and this is the best they can come up with?
Awesome.
Universal health care will fix uneducated doctors. No worries.
Ruiz single
Myers flawless sac bunt
Jimmy to the gap
I did not see that coming.
utleys act is getting old...he doesnt drive in runs anymore ever
The farg is mccarthy blabbing about now? Second major league debut? :boom
Finally an uneventful inning from Myers.
Choke Dawg legs out the infield single to lead off. I smell runs.
Quote from: ice grillin you on July 23, 2008, 08:42:30 PM
utleys act is getting old...he doesnt drive in runs anymore ever
Six homers since June 1.
Quote from: Geowhizzer on July 23, 2008, 08:53:47 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on July 23, 2008, 08:42:30 PM
utleys act is getting old...he doesnt drive in runs anymore ever
Six homers since June 1.
nine rbi since june 14
The sad thing is the Mets are such a bad team. In any other division, except maybe the West, they are way below .500. But the Phils will probably take game 1, then lose 2 of 3. Like they did last series vs the Mets.
farg face Ryan Madson is back. After weeks of imitating a MLB pitcher the guy who we know to give up HRs is back.
And worse it was to that farging Hoyda ass bitch Jose Reyes who acted like he won game 7 of the '88 series.
I think I hate Tom McCarthy
I'm glad I don't have the Phils feed tonight. I am watchign it on ESPN.
I know Wheels is blowing Reyes...McCarthy probably has his Mets t-shirt on under his Phils shirt.
Reyes showboating around first after hitting the home run should warrant a farging pineapple to the temple. I don't know who throws it the hardest in that bullpen but someone better put that little flag on his ass, pronto.
take some pitches
Victorino swung at ball 4 there, not that it matters with Bruntlett up next.
moyer should throw the first pitch of the first inning and that fag reyes head. seriously. he does this shtein because no one has taught him otherwise. good god.
myers was alright, cuts down on the walks he has a solid outing. madson just picked a bad time to suck. and yes, the middle of the lineup was brutal. especially utley, who has been just horrid since june 1.
I guess every bullpen has to suck sometimes. The nationally televised games I'm able to catch haven't been going so well lately. Hopefully I'm not in the viewing area on Saturday.
Wheels actually said "he needs to cut out that crap" when Reyes was doing his homo finger raising and high-fiving in the dugout after a 3 run homer in the 6th inning of a game in july.
Quote from: QB Eagles on July 23, 2008, 10:07:08 PM
I guess every bullpen has to suck sometimes. The nationally televised games I'm able to catch haven't been going so well lately. Hopefully I'm not in the viewing area on Saturday.
if it makes you feel better they have sucked in most games over that last couple months
lol @ myers was alright
Quote from: SunMo on July 23, 2008, 10:18:41 PM
lol @ myers was alright
without the six walks...pay attention
All of that talk about coming out and winning tonight after last night was just that; talk.
This team talks too much. Get the job done, iceholes.
Reyes = bitchmade.
No wonder they gagged like motherfargers last year with that queer leading them down the rabbit hole.
Quote from: MDS on July 23, 2008, 10:09:57 PM
Wheels actually said "he needs to cut out that crap" when Reyes was doing his homo finger raising and high-fiving in the dugout after a 3 run homer in the 6th inning of a game in july.
I was listening to the game in my truck on my way home from school, LA said "Someone needs to throw one at his neck the next time he's at the plate"
Quote from: ice grillin you on July 23, 2008, 10:20:10 PM
Quote from: SunMo on July 23, 2008, 10:18:41 PM
lol @ myers was alright
without the six walks...pay attention
he...kept the team in the game and didn't implode when he could have easily done so. it's good to see that when he got his pitches over, the hitters weren't doing much with it. obviously needs to improve the ol' location, but he looked better than he did before the demotion. baby steps here, children.
Quote from: SD_Eagle on July 23, 2008, 10:36:03 PM
Quote from: MDS on July 23, 2008, 10:09:57 PM
Wheels actually said "he needs to cut out that crap" when Reyes was doing his homo finger raising and high-fiving in the dugout after a 3 run homer in the 6th inning of a game in july.
I was listening to the game in my truck on my way home from school, LA said "Someone needs to throw one at his neck the next time he's at the plate"
condrey farged that up by forcing manuel to ibb him. i was kind of hoping tatis was gonna pop one so condrey could just nail reyes and not have it cost them anything that game.
The one guy who would have gunned Reyes' ass was sitting in the whirlpool in the clubhouse at the time.
Figures. . .
QuoteBurnett is starting tonight's contest for the Jays and one of the interested onlookers was Gord Lakey, the director of major league scouting for the Philadelphia Phillies, one of the teams said to be interested in perhaps trading for the right-hander.
Toronto paper
They're going to give away the farm system for a career .500 pitcher. That will be Gillick's legacy. Just wait and see.
Myers for Burnett
Getting another bat and a LH out of the pen would help much more than trading for Burnett.
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Quote from: SD_Eagle on July 23, 2008, 10:36:03 PM
Quote from: MDS on July 23, 2008, 10:09:57 PM
Wheels actually said "he needs to cut out that crap" when Reyes was doing his homo finger raising and high-fiving in the dugout after a 3 run homer in the 6th inning of a game in july.
I was listening to the game in my truck on my way home from school, LA said "Someone needs to throw one at his neck the next time he's at the plate"
wip is playing it on their tickers...it absolutely awesome
"they should put one in his neck"
"kids acting like he just won the world series"
really is there a more dislikeable athlete in pro sports right now than reyes
favre? pacman jones? chris henry? to? brett myers?
nope. hes it.
Franzke: "This is Joe Blanton's 10th plate appearance, he's 1-10 lifetime with his only hit being an infield single"
LA: "An infield single? Was the infield playing at the warning track"
Jimmy a late scratch from the lineup. Not sure why.
Quote from: MDS on July 24, 2008, 12:10:16 PM
Jimmy a late scratch from the lineup. Not sure why.
I hope it's for disciplinary reasons
Bruntlett time!
He seemed fine walking around the dugout, maybe he said something to piss Charles off and got the boot.
He probably called Cholly a honky.
I don't have warm fuzzies about this rubber match.
charlie bropught up yesterday how his ankle is still bothering him and that he tweaked it hitting a base in florida...its probably that
sloth burrell strikes again
1-0 Mets. Phils haven't put a scare into Perez yet, naturally.
Quote from: SD_Eagle on July 20, 2008, 08:18:53 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on July 20, 2008, 07:44:47 PM
perez is a mortal lock against the phillies...much more so than santana
yup...and they never hit Maine. I think their best bet is against Santana.
Called that one a mile away. Game isn't over yet but Perez is having his way with the middle of the bums order.
burrell just sucks. what a piece of shtein. he cant throw out reyes from 2nd with 2 outs? farg him what a fleshpopface.
choke has faced perez 22 times and has 14 strikeouts
Quote from: MDS on July 24, 2008, 01:14:28 PM
burrell just sucks. what a piece of shtein. he cant throw out reyes from 2nd with 2 outs? farg him what a fleshpopface.
wow does the game fly over your head...an average OF catches the ball and no throw is necessary
Howard would have caught the ball AND thrown out Reyes for good measure.
4 hits off of Perez so far - 2 are Eric Bruntlett.
Howard with 3 Ks
Perez with 10
choke career vs perez
2 for 23
15 k's
that inning was on burrell tho for not getting the run home
Bruntlett on 3rd with 1 out, stranded by Burrell and Howard.
Incredible stat: Howard is now hitting sub-.100 (5 for 51) in 2008 with a 3-2 count.
Yeah but he's batting ONE MILLION when he puts the ball in play.
Quote from: ice grillin you on July 24, 2008, 01:15:27 PM
choke has faced perez 22 times and has 14 strikeouts
Quote from: MDS on July 24, 2008, 01:14:28 PM
burrell just sucks. what a piece of shtein. he cant throw out reyes from 2nd with 2 outs? farg him what a fleshpopface.
wow does the game fly over your head...an average OF catches the ball and no throw is necessary
wow. yes burrell is slow, but thats a single no matter what and pat more than makes up for his complete lack of range with his offensive production. today aint goin so well but hes really quite good with the bat.
Quote from: FastFreddie on July 24, 2008, 01:36:19 PM
Bruntlett on 3rd with 1 out, stranded by Burrell and Howard.
Incredible stat: Howard is now hitting sub-.100 (5 for 51) in 2008 with a 3-2 count.
thats actually not that crazy for a guy who strikes out a million times AND walks a ton...a lot of times a pitcher doesnt wanna give in to a guy 3-2 who can take him out of the stadium...he isnt getting pitches down broadway at 3-2 like a lot of other hitters would
hes werth every penny
Quote from: ice grillin you on July 24, 2008, 01:43:10 PM
hes werth every penny
Werth has incredible VORP.
Pop quiz, hot shots: Moyer is leading off the 8th but has only thrown ~90 pitches. Pinch hit?
yea probably. you can get 2 innings out of chad durbin if need be.
Quote from: FastFreddie on July 24, 2008, 01:52:58 PM
Pop quiz, hot shots: Moyer is leading off the 8th but has only thrown ~90 pitches. Pinch hit?
He hits
One of the bums needs to step the farg up here.
Quote from: FastFreddie on July 24, 2008, 01:52:58 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on July 24, 2008, 01:43:10 PM
hes werth every penny
Werth has incredible VORP.
Pop quiz, hot shots: Moyer is leading off the 8th but has only thrown ~90 pitches. Pinch hit?
1 million % yes
btw the catch werth just made is what burrell couldnt do
Bruntlett > Rollins
time for utley to man up
its a sad day when you dont want ace up here cause you know he aint doin shtein
utley is hitting .123 with risp since june 1
Howard + Utley = 6 Ks
Maybe 7
Way to take one for the team there Ryan
great at bat from choke to draw a walk there. very surprising he didnt k.
gutty at bat by choke
Quote from: MDS on July 24, 2008, 02:05:19 PM
great at bat from choke to draw a walk there. very surprising he didnt k.
He got hit, I was surprised he didn't swing
manuel is a very stupid individual.
why didn't uncle stooopid put in Dobbs there?
because werth hit a hr last time up?
Quote from: SunMo on July 24, 2008, 02:09:59 PM
why didn't uncle stooopid put in Dobbs there?
he wants to see how he does as a pinch hitter before he puts him in big spots like that
Well that was fun
the bullpen sure picked a good time to suck ass
la and franzke are callin out chuckles hardcore for butchering that PH situation
well this has been an incredible waste of 2.5 hours of my life. burn everything.
Holy Christ. Jimmy benched because he was late to the ballpark. The rubber match in one of the more important series in the season, and he's slacking somewhere instead of being on time. Nice.
Quote from: PPinDC on July 24, 2008, 02:41:45 PM
Holy Christ. Jimmy benched because he was late to the ballpark. farging a.
Good.
He's dogged it all year. If being benched agaisnt the Mets isn't a wake up call then nothing will be. It helps that Bruntlett played a good game today.
chuckles needs to farging go right god damn now...hes clearly lost the team (if he ever had it)
they should've been swept. yawn. lets go training camp.
Quote from: ice grillin you on July 24, 2008, 02:43:46 PM
chuckles needs to farging go right god damn now...hes clearly lost the team (if he ever had it)
At this point, he's the lesser of the available evils. They need an authoritarian. They are lax as hell, who would replace chuckles to put the foot down?
Quote from: PPinDC on July 24, 2008, 02:57:25 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on July 24, 2008, 02:43:46 PM
chuckles needs to farging go right god damn now...hes clearly lost the team (if he ever had it)
At this point, he's the lesser of the available evils. They need an authoritarian. They are lax as hell, who would replace chuckles to put the foot down?
Bowa?
Good thing they didn't pick up Fuentes & Holliday, huh?
Quote from: PPinDC on July 24, 2008, 02:57:25 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on July 24, 2008, 02:43:46 PM
chuckles needs to farging go right god damn now...hes clearly lost the team (if he ever had it)
At this point, he's the lesser of the available evils. They need an authoritarian. They are lax as hell, who would replace chuckles to put the foot down?
thats the problem...the options you have during the middle of the season are limited...davey lopes wouldnt be a bad choice...jimmy williams would be an upgrade as well...i mean they surrounded charlie with mlb lifers for a reason right?
I'm sick of the treading water BS. If they don't start turning back into may/june form, then I hope they crash and burn. At least that would be fun to watch. Nothing is more brutal to watch than treading water. Either go wild and pull away from the division or crash and burn so we can laugh and have fun in misery.
This team needs to become sellers so we can actually have some prospects. Sadly, they really have no one to sell.
Nothing is more brutal than seeing another of your nonsensical replies.
I'd rather they go with Lopes if they replace Chuckles, Williams to me seems to be a little bit of a Chuckles clone, albeit probably a more game-smart version.
I gotta go with Eskin (wretch) on Jimmy and Utley. Jimmy is on the "MVP slide" and there is something wrong with Utley. It's not a slump....dude has seriously got something wrong with him. Jimmy is dissapointing, I always thought the dude was a gamer, but this season he's done a lot to prove otherwise.
Quote from: King Cole on July 24, 2008, 03:20:32 PM
I'm sick of the treading water BS. If they don't start turning back into may/june form, then I hope they crash and burn. At least that would be fun to watch. Nothing is more brutal to watch than treading water. Either go wild and pull away from the division or crash and burn so we can laugh and have fun in misery.
This team needs to become sellers so we can actually have some prospects. Sadly, they really have no one to sell.
stfu
If I knew ahead of time this team was going to miss the playoffs and we had two ways of going about it:
1. Playing inconsistent ball, but treading water
2. Playing horrible ball, and falling apart
I'll pick option two. For one, it would be funny to watch, and two, the front office would get a reality check that they aren't that close. They aren't close and going after these mediocre pitchers isn't good enough.
The same thing applied to the Eagles last year. Winning those final 3 games were the worst thing that happened to the Eagles. It made the FO delusional about the offense.
Ultimately, if you want a championship a team needs to crash and burn before it can turn it around.
Quote from: PPinDC on July 24, 2008, 03:23:58 PM
I'd rather they go with Lopes if they replace Chuckles, Williams to me seems to be a little bit of a Chuckles clone, albeit probably a more game-smart version.
I gotta go with Eskin (wretch) on Jimmy and Utley. Jimmy is on the "MVP slide" and there is something wrong with Utley. It's not a slump....dude has seriously got something wrong with him. Jimmy is dissapointing, I always thought the dude was a gamer, but this season he's done a lot to prove otherwise.
jimmy williams does seem as tho hes mellowed in his old age (he is 75) but back in the day he used to get in that ass...at this point they need a change for the sake of change...forget the tactical reasons youd wanna do it
and dont listen to eskin on utley...at the start of this year his new schtick was to say how much better utley is than choke and jimmy...and that even last year utley was the team mvp not rollins...hes in the bag for him no matter what happens so of course utley cant be sucking it up like jimmy and choke do there must be an injury or illness because the great chase utley could never be in a slump
Quote from: PPinDC on July 24, 2008, 03:23:58 PM
Quote from: King Cole on July 24, 2008, 03:20:32 PM
I'm sick of the treading water BS. If they don't start turning back into may/june form, then I hope they crash and burn. At least that would be fun to watch. Nothing is more brutal to watch than treading water. Either go wild and pull away from the division or crash and burn so we can laugh and have fun in misery.
This team needs to become sellers so we can actually have some prospects. Sadly, they really have no one to sell.
stfu
ha
The Marlins do it all the time. They win championships, and then a year or two after, when their team falls from grace and is mediocre they tear the entire thing apart. They let their team crash and burn, and rebuild it back to title form in no time.
I want to keep Utley, Howard, and Hamels, but anyone else is ripe for the taking. I want to win a championship.
In order to "break things up" after a win, you first have to WIN SOMETHING, numbskull.
Quote from: King Cole on July 24, 2008, 03:26:14 PM
and two, the front office would get a reality check that they aren't that close.
havent been a phillie fan long have you?
the front office/ownership could care friggin less how close they are to a championship
Here's a recent shot of David Montgomery walking out of CBP:
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Quote from: ice grillin you on July 24, 2008, 03:38:28 PM
Quote from: King Cole on July 24, 2008, 03:26:14 PM
and two, the front office would get a reality check that they aren't that close.
havent been a phillie fan long have you?
the front office/ownership could care friggin less how close they are to a championship
True
From Jayson Stark - team bus arrived at 10:30, Rollins got there at 11 am. Manuel not happy. Rollins does not agree with decision to be benched. Stark says relationship between Manuel and Rollins has been "simmering" all season.
Nothing says "MVP!" quite like not running out ground balls and showing up late to team functions.
I agree with Manuel's decision to bench Rollins. He's dogged it all year. Either way this story is about to erupt.
It's time for Rollins to hold out of his contract for more money. He deserves it.
I'd be happier if Manuel was shtein-canned but it's not like Rollins is untouchable either.
Rollins for Holliday
Sounds good. After all, they have a great shortstop prospect still in the minors. . . oh, wait.
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EVERYONE CALM THE farg DOWN
Wow, I miss some good shtein today.
Rollins is a slacker
Utley is still blowing ass
Ollie Perez would be in the HOF if he only pitched against the Phils
igy beating on the OMG CHARLIE LOST THE TEAM drum, when he really hasn't.
well to be fair i did say he may have never had them...which is probably the more likely scenario
players loving a guy because they can play the way they want when they want and make the same mistakes over and over how ever many times they want is not a manager controlling a team...they love playing for charlie but they dont respect him in the least...but how could they when they see him make brutal move after brutal move without having to answer for it
Yeah, I'm sure they absolutely loathe him because he doesn't make moves that you deem better.
Again, does he farg up? Yes.
But when it comes down to it, the players gotta play. It cracks me up when people, who just hate the guy and want to rip him about something, point to him being a hitting guru and cry how he should be helping Howard and all of these struggling hitters.
This collection of clowns need to learn how to hit with runners in scoring position, move runners over and shtein like that. During the Florida series Charlie mentioned about how no one seems to want to give up their ABs to get guys over and shtein like that.
He takes shots at the FO (Rowand leaving, begging for pitching, etc)
He's ripped the team and called the offense overrated
He's frustrated like hell as evidenced by getting tossed twice in the last few days
What do you want him to do? shtein gold?
Players. That's whose fault it is.
The thing with Rollins and Utley are what's the most puzzling to me.
Rollins has been dogging it most of the year. Whether it's the ankle or the MVP that's gone to his head, he has not been the spark plug the offense needs. Worse than the results, the effort just isn't there far too often.
Why Utley has stopped hitting, I don't know. But he has been brutal since the beginning of June, and Igy and I posted yesterday (6 HR and few RBI - can't remember the actual number). Howard's been producing far more than Utley in the past two months, even with the lower batting average (and that's come up recently as well).
Missed today's game, and kind of glad I did. I needed a day off from the Phillies.
Still the crowd will never boo Utley. Ever.
Quote from: MDS on July 24, 2008, 02:09:35 PM
manuel is a very stupid individual.
no, i'm stupid for falling for this shtein. these bums had me fooled after the 20-2 blowout in St. Louis last month. just when i thought everything was coming together.........panic, nah. just totally pissed. thank god i didn't have to watch this shtein today as it started at 6:00 AM HST and i was out the door.
Quote• Phil 'er up: With that Joe Blanton deal out of the way, the Phillies are all over the left-handed-reliever market. They're in on most of the usual suspects (Fuentes, Marte, George Sherrill, Jack Taschner). But we're hearing they could have expanded the Blanton trade to include Alan Embree if they'd have been willing to throw in Olympic-team shortstop Jason Donald, and turned that one down. Another option they've mulled is recalling J.A. Happ as a situational left-hander. Left-handed hitters went 1 for 12 off Happ in his two starts earlier this month.
• Phil 'er up again: Could the Phillies still deal for a bat? Not impossible. But it won't be Matt Holliday. Yes, they looked into it, but they were scared off by the price tag before they even made an offer. Ditto on Nady. An official of one club that spoke with the Phillies says they're more focused on a "Casey Blake-type" bat, but pitching remains their top priority.
Stark Rumblings (http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/columns/story?columnist=stark_jayson&page=rumblings)
Quote from: MDS on July 24, 2008, 11:26:37 PM
Still the crowd will never boo Utley. Ever.
farg you
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on July 24, 2008, 08:33:09 PM
Yeah, I'm sure they absolutely loathe him because he doesn't make moves that you deem better.
Again, does he farg up? Yes.
But when it comes down to it, the players gotta play. It cracks me up when people, who just hate the guy and want to rip him about something, point to him being a hitting guru and cry how he should be helping Howard and all of these struggling hitters.
This collection of clowns need to learn how to hit with runners in scoring position, move runners over and shtein like that. During the Florida series Charlie mentioned about how no one seems to want to give up their ABs to get guys over and shtein like that.
He takes shots at the FO (Rowand leaving, begging for pitching, etc)
He's ripped the team and called the offense overrated
He's frustrated like hell as evidenced by getting tossed twice in the last few days
What do you want him to do? shtein gold?
Players. That's whose fault it is.
i never said it wasnt partly the players fault...there isnt a player on this team i havent killed...but you cant trade the whole team especially in mid season...however you can change the manager and the entire aura of the club whenever you want...i mean the proof is right in their face with the mets...and the bonus is whoever you get will at least be a competatnt tactician
Quote from: MDS on July 24, 2008, 11:26:37 PM
Still the crowd will never boo Utley. Ever.
hes dreamy saves puppies and is clearly injured....how could you boo that?
Right, but it's still more Charlie's fault than the players' fault, right?
unless youre in the clubhouse every day i dont think you can 100% accurately say
really the %'s of fault are irrelevant and this isnt about blame...this is about doing something to make the team better
the fact is chuckles doesnt have the team and hes a horrible manager of a roster that has a lot of talent...you cant address the players en masse until after the season...but you can address the manager right now
Get Willie Randolph!
Quote"It's unfortunate, but rules are rules," said pitcher Jamie Moyer, after another great outing by him was wasted. "I commend Charlie for standing up to the rules that he has. I think we all need to be accountable to that. Each team has their own rules. They play for not only their managers and their coaching staffs, but they play amongst their teammates and I think you create who you are in the clubhouse and on the field by the way you act and the way you carry yourself. I'm sure it is something that probably won't happen again, but life goes on."
Doesn't look like Jimmy has the support of his teammates
Moyer truely is Souderton's finest
besides me
You're both wrong:
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moyer is a fraud anyway....hes sellersville....he couldnt hold down souderton if he tried
he was born at Grand View Hospital, which is in Sellersville, but he was raised in Souderton and went to Souderton HS
thats like saying kobe bryant is from philly
stop talking about souderton. its making me upset.
It's making me hard.
sam hollenbach
that's sellersville, and pennridge high school
sellervilles favorite native son?
sam hollenbach or jamie moyer
sunmo
who is that?
Spanky G
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Philly Mag sure picked a good time to put him on the cover.
Side note: The catering company I work for is doing a Philly Mag party on Wednesday for what I assume is the Best of Philly thing. So...I'm gonna do my best to get away from stacking dishes and emptying garbage bags and harass Jen Utley on her stupid husbands zesty play.
You work for a catering company?
It's a called a part time job. They pay me $14 an hour to do stupid shtein a day or two a week, I show up and do enough not to get fired. You know, that.
Do you wear a hair net?
No. But I do wear my Jesus necklace.
Sweet. Do you try to persuade them to expand the Jewish food part of the menu?
I would never subject anyone to Jewish food.
Bottom of the first, Victorino on 3rd with 1 out. #3 and #4 hitters up to bat.
Nothing.
Hah.
Quote from: Munson on July 25, 2008, 07:20:48 PM
Bottom of the first, Victorino on 3rd with 1 out. #3 and #4 hitters up to bat.
Nothing.
Hah.
That's become the modus operandi for this team.
Quote from: Geowhizzer on July 25, 2008, 07:21:26 PM
Quote from: Munson on July 25, 2008, 07:20:48 PM
Bottom of the first, Victorino on 3rd with 1 out. #3 and #4 hitters up to bat.
Nothing.
Hah.
That's become the modus operandi for this team.
Pretty much.
It's sad how expected that is anymore.
and now they're losing with the Mets winning. yay 3rd place
yankees get nady and marte package. so...there goes that.
Boos came out after Utley's last strikeout. Unfortunately, well deserved. He's been miserable.
Can't even score a run? farg these losers.
This team is completely lost. Wheels was talking about the six shutouts this season, and I think they said four of them have come at home in the bandbox. They've got to shake this up before the end of the month. zesty farging thing is, I've got GREAT farging tickets for next week at the 'Nats new park, I've been waiting all season to see them and King pitch. The way they are playing now, King will allow less then five hits, and they'll farging blow it for him.
Some have been talking third place. If the Braves win, they're only 4½ behind the Phils. Fourth place is a real possibility if they don't pull out of this soon.
Lidge's first homer given up is a GS. 6-0 top of the ninth. Christ.
Judging by their reactions, the Braves smell the blood in the water. It's totally conceivable that by Monday, they could be "battling" for third.
Abortions for all.
i'm not going to say it, not going to, no, nope. but, i will start thinking about it "season. done."
This team has got to blow this thing up. If they don't, next year won't be any different. Rebuild and in a few years maybe we can contend while Utley and Howard are still at a good age.
are we having fun yet?
thank god i'm meeting Sea Biscuit's bro later for a brew.
whats pathetic is that the dumbass non sports fans that make up the ownership will believe that what happened last year is going to happen this year thus they will do nothing to change things...when in reality last year was a once in a generation collapse by a dog met team...as great as it was and for me its worth probably around ten years of the mets being better than the phils...its never gonna happen again in our lifetime....they need to shake things up and again it starts with chuckles
I still think the bums are a better team than the Mets, they're just ridiculously bad right now. Even if the lineup produces average they're still 5 games up. Pitching isn't the problem.
pitching isnt the problem but yet the mets rotation is still better than the phillies...especially now that pelfrey has started to turn into the stud everyone imagined a couple years ago
the only place the phillies are better than the mets is the bullpen
igy, couldn't agree with you more. the only time we might ever see a collapse like last year's mets kamikaze nose dive will probably involve the phils being the team that implodes.
what's frustrating is watching the whole team struggle. not just two or three guys but the whole frickin' team. but 8-2 makes me feel so much better. so much better i might just have 6 margaritas instead of 8.
ha...i just got back from chilis 6 el nino margaritas deep...god damn those things are good
so glad i missed this travesty
did you catch choke dawg posing on that HR down 8-0? :-D
f'ing fraud offense
Quote from: BigEd76 on July 25, 2008, 10:10:51 PM
did you catch choke dawg posing on that HR down 8-0? :-D
f'ing fraud offense
not even watching it by why doesnt that suprise me...yeah charlie has such control of the situation...sign him to an extension
what exactly did uncle fatasses little meeting before the game do? farging Hoydas.
but on the bright side this now makes sense:
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Quote from: BigEd76 on July 25, 2008, 10:10:51 PM
did you catch choke dawg posing on that HR down 8-0? :-D
f'ing fraud offense
Yep. Terrible.
But not as terrible as Utley's ABs. Or this entire farging offense. Or igy trying to find a way to pin it on Charlie.
i didnt pin anything on charlie just said that its time to fire the manager....charlie pins enough on himself...have you watched him manage for the last four years?...i cant imagine youd admit hes even an average manager...therefore you have a terrible manager and a team with a lot of talent thats in a horrible funk...if thats not a recipe for a change i dont know what is...the defense of charlie by anyone is beyond baffling
The Phillies should trade for Aaron Rowand. You know, because he's gutsy and stuff.
Quote from: ice grillin you on July 26, 2008, 07:19:04 AM
charlie pins enough on himself...
He needs to do a better job out there of putting guys in positions to make plays.
Quote from: Rome on July 26, 2008, 09:31:43 AM
The Phillies should trade for Aaron Rowand. You know, because he's gutsy and stuff.
I was torturing myself by thinking of next season. No way they re-sign Burrell, so the mighty lineup from last season will have been slowly chipped down to scrap. The starting rotation is a mess that they've been trying to fix forever. The only hope is they get a GM with some imagination, but I know that's a long shot.
Quote from: SD_Eagle on July 26, 2008, 10:46:11 AM
Quote from: Rome on July 26, 2008, 09:31:43 AM
The Phillies should trade for Aaron Rowand. You know, because he's gutsy and stuff.
I was torturing myself by thinking of next season. No way they re-sign Burrell, so the mighty lineup from last season will have been slowly chipped down to scrap. The starting rotation is a mess that they've been trying to fix forever. The only hope is they get a GM with some imagination, but I know that's a long shot.
Ruben. Amaro. Jr.
The only hope with Ruben Amaro is he pulls a Paul Holmgren and actually does a good job. I know that's a long shot but I have to grasp at something.
Just accept it now SD...Amaro is going to be a clusterfarg. That smarmy, egocentric prick with the tough guy attitude is going to be eaten alive and ruin this team (more than it is now). ANd we'll have to listen to him recycle the Ed Wade cliches.
Regardless of who goes or comes, I think we'll find out for sure in the next seven days whether this team and front office are really committed to winning in any capacity. It's obvious to most that if the Mets even get 50% of their heads together, they will run away with the division, as well as the Phils not being able to hold of the Marlins. It's really a shame, because the Mets Phils rivalry was really starting to gather some steam, and was exciting as hell. If the Phils go back to be perennial losers, it won't be much of a rivalry. Also, it'll be nice to see when they are clinging to third place and the stadium stops selling out at a brisk place.
There's a stink emanating from this team and the stink is called complacency. As long as they're making money the ownership couldn't care less if they actually win a World Series. It's been that way since those fargers took over 25 years ago and nothing is going to chance until those douchebags are gone.
I disagree. I think if they trade Carrasco for Fuentes, they'll win the World Series.
Hah hah.
Wow.
9 run 4th off Hamels.
Stick a fork in em folks, they're done.
Two games, two huge innings.
farging shteinbag losers.
Great effort again from the Phillies. Nine runs allowed but only four of them are earned. Excellent.
Blow. It. Up.
Minus Utley, Hamels, and Howard.
This team is an embarrassment. They have no balls, no fight, no nothing. Whatever they had early on is gone. What a farging farce and way to choke it up, you farging iceholes
They don't need to blow it up. What they need is to shake it up a bit and add someone new to the mix. Firing Charlie would be my first choice because it's clear he's lost this bunch.
Anyone who thinks this team is making the playoffs is in denial. Mediocre team in a bad division. Last year's playoff run was a fluke. They are an 85-89 win team every year, and will continue to be until they either go for it, or blow it up.
Meanwhile the Marlins win the World Series a handful of years ago, rip it apart, and build it back up and have already caught and surpassed the Phillies. This Phillies team has been stuck in this mediocre muck since Bowa, and they'll never escape with their current way they run things.
Quote from: Rome on July 26, 2008, 05:27:13 PM
They don't need to blow it up. What they need is to shake it up a bit and add someone new to the mix. Firing Charlie would be my first choice because it's clear he's lost this bunch.
If they fired Manuel and added Jason Bay to this team a month ago, things wouldn't be any different now. They'd have maybe 2 more wins.
With the way Utley and Rollins are playing, and the way everyone else is falling apart, a little shakeup wouldn't make a difference at all.
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Yes, I most certainly do!
BUT, there is hope. BASES LOADED.
If you turned it off I don't blame you, but the bums actually came back. Up 10-9.
Dobbs 3 run shot to right just put them on top. Unbelievable.
They still suck, however.
NO fargING WAY! This just didn't happen did it?
I'm missing this game because the Fox affiliate down here is showing, of course, the Sox-Yanks. bastiches.
May be better for my heart (and television) the way this game is going...
Amazing. Maybe, just maybe, these fargs have some fight left in them.
I'm watching the game on Fox Sports en Espanol. Second Saturday in a row I've had to do this.
Quote from: Geowhizzer on July 26, 2008, 06:01:56 PM
I'm missing this game because the Fox affiliate down here is showing, of course, the Sox-Yanks. bastiches.
May be better for my heart (and television) the way this game is going...
who is getting this game? I can't imagine any FOX affliate bumping the Yankees/Red Sox. God forbid anyone miss one of the 75 games they seem to play every season.
The Orlando station has the Sox/Yankees on. It just wouldn't be the weekend if one of those teams wasn't on Fox.
Durbin pitches out of a jam in the 7th. Still clinging.
EDIT: BUMS WIN! BUMS WIN!
Great comeback win from those retards.
Quote from: Don Ho on July 26, 2008, 06:10:17 PMwho is getting this game? I can't imagine any FOX affliate bumping the Yankees/Red Sox. God forbid anyone miss one of the 75 games they seem to play every season.
it was basically limited to Philly and the rednecks in Georgia, South Carolina, Alabama and Tennessee
I turned the game off after 9-3 and didn't see any of that 7-run inning. Didn't turn it back on until the 9th. Great comeback. Lidge broke Wagner's team record for consecutive saves to start a season (23)...
All this means is that they will come out tomorrow and have 1-run on 3 hits.
hey look they won
cookies in the swampy philly afternoon heat tomorrow = epic fail
Worst nickname ever?
best nickname ever?
QuoteRollins blew off reporters again yesterday. ("What a game. That's my quote," he said as he left the locker room.) But that's the least of it. Since being benched for getting to Shea Stadium late on Thursday, Rollins has made a point of showing up just in time to beat the manager's arrival deadline, and he affects a body language that indicates he doesn't much care what anyone thinks of it. If his teammates aren't tired of the act, you can be sure the front office is. It doesn't take much to mess up the mechanism of a baseball team. Rollins could do it all by himself.
Jimmy's gotta grow the farg up
Sounds like someone needs a cockslapping.
best game ive been to in a long time
nypost says phils and mess the two teams at the front of the latest manny ramirez trade rumors
and good to see cookies pitching well
Getting Manny would be awesome. I guess they would have to give up Burrell? I hope not. But then you have an OF of Manny - Vic/Wert - Burrell
Steve Smith tried to score Utley on a line drive single by Howard to RCF from 1st. The ball didn't even make it to the wall.
He sucks.
Rain delay. Starting the game was stupid. They knew the rain was moving in so now they'll likely have to burn the pen.
Why the hell would the Phillies want another malcontented head case on this team?
Quote from: Rome on July 27, 2008, 02:27:16 PM
Why the hell would the Phillies want another malcontented head case on this team?
That was my thought. Ramirez is already known for not running out hits and half-assing it when he doesn't feel like giving the effort. To me, there's no need to add him to a clubhouse situation that already seems to be going to hell in a handbasket.
Manny being Manny wouldn't fly in Philly. If there's one thing we can't stand it's a motherfarger who doesn't bust his ass and hustle.
Fish 3 Cubs 0
Mets 7 Cards 0
Braves 2 Phils 0
Yay baby!!
Apparently Happ was pulled from his start today in the minors after 2.2 innings and not for being zesty or being hurt....
Has the game actually been called, or is it still just a rain delay. I ask because my Game Mix on DTV lists it at PPD, but the Yahoo boxscore still has it as delayed.
tarps coming off theyre gonna resume soon. eaton pitching.
happ and burrell for manny? ummmmmm
Quote from: MDS on July 27, 2008, 03:46:54 PM
tarps coming off theyre gonna resume soon. eaton pitching.
Um.... thank God for
that.
manny played 4-6 games as a rf in 2002. he and burrell will be lethal corner of's you just wait america.
Quote from: MDS on July 27, 2008, 04:09:57 PM
manny played 4-6 games as a rf in 2002. he and burrell will be lethal corner of's you just wait america.
Victorino would be dead by the end of the season.
lmao... this team. Whew.
Phils load the base because JoJo Reyes wants to give runs up. Rollins K's looking.
Then light hitting Kelly Johnson takes Eaton yard.
And so does Omar Infante (classis case of a guy subbing in for a star player killing a team).
Then Reyes goes off the wall in LF. The 0-19 pitcher.
A throaty YOU SUCK EATON chant breaks out. Loud booing.
Great game today fargbags. Like the NY comeback, the game the next day means absolutely nothing when you come out and get thumped.
Coste 2R HR
Victorino 3R HR
And speculation that Myers goes back to the pen...
QuoteRadano says:
Speculation is at an all-time high after J.A. Happ was lifted early from today's game in Richmond. Trade? Maybe. Or, could it be possible the Phillies front office have enough intestinal fortitude to bring Happ up for Tuesday's start in Washington and move Brett Myers to the bullpen. It's believed that the Phillies were none too impressed with Myers start in New York and may have finally thrown up their hands in disbelief.
Pat HR
6-5 Phillies
im sure myers will take kindly to that news
11-5 Phillies :-D
Better keep Myers away from Happ. Then again, I don't know if he fights men.
Rollins homers to make it 12-5.
Now Seanez is going to make it more interesting that it should be. What a farging bum.
Did you guys see Victorino destroy McCann? He was out.
Madson in to save the day.
Quote from: FastFreddie on July 27, 2008, 06:25:37 PM
Madson in to save the day.
or walk in a run.
awful.
SEanez is atrocious.
How many strikes do you want the guy to pitch?!? He got one in there. That's a nice day's work.
awful.
Woooohooo...excellent.
12-10 now.
WTF Werth.
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on July 27, 2008, 06:31:02 PM
Woooohooo...excellent.
12-10 now.
WTF Werth.
for real
why is he diving at a ball up 5 in the 8th inning
this could be the dumbest team ever assembled
A bunch of retards who do not play fundamentally sound baseball. Plays like that and the ever maddening never getting bunts down are basic, yet this team doesnt do it.
At least we have the Soul.
You flying home for the parade, Jay?
Just booked my ticket.
I'm flying first class for this one. How about you save me a spot on the corner of Broad please?
Phew.
12-10 final
1 game back of the Mets, alone in 2nd
finally some games against the Nationals
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on July 27, 2008, 06:40:20 PM
A bunch of retards who do not play fundamentally sound baseball. Plays like that and the ever maddening never getting bunts down are basic, yet this team doesnt do it.
yet you don't want to lay anything on the manager...you just described one of the manager's biggest jobs
If a major leaguer doesn't know how to lay a bunt down or hit the ball the other way to move a runner he has no business being in the bigs. I'll lay the blame on the absence of fundamentals with this team on the wretched developmental system they have in the minor leagues, not with an admittedly retarded skipper in Philly.
Quote from: SunMo on July 27, 2008, 06:57:35 PM
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on July 27, 2008, 06:40:20 PM
A bunch of retards who do not play fundamentally sound baseball. Plays like that and the ever maddening never getting bunts down are basic, yet this team doesnt do it.
yet you don't want to lay anything on the manager...you just described one of the manager's biggest jobs
If they didn't have the same issues when Bowa was the manager then maybe I would blame Charlie. But they didn't suddenly get awful at this shtein once Chuck took over.
Like Rome said...its in the system; thats where the problem is.
seanez had a nice little run in may or something but hes cooked. id rather have sunmo pitching.
Quote from: BigEd76 on July 27, 2008, 06:56:40 PM
finally some games against the Nationals
Thanks, jinxer. Should the Nats just get their brooms out now?
Quote from: MDS on July 27, 2008, 08:28:41 PM
id rather have sunmo pitching.
Underhand, overhand, or with his penis?
QuoteIronPigs left-hander J.A. Happ was pulled from his start at Richmond today after 2 2/3 scoreless innings and 41 total pitches. Whenever something like that happens in the minor leagues, it's almost always the result of a promotion or a trade.
In Happ's case, we've heard from a source that it's a promotion to the Phillies. Happ made two starts for the Phillies before the all-star break before being sent back to Triple-A. At the time, the plan was to bring him back for at least one more start after the break, but the trade for Joe Blanton changed all that.
Reached by phone minutes ago, Happ said he hadn't heard official word about any kind of move.
But after today's 12-10 win over Atlanta, Phillies reliever Adam Eaton was called into manager Charlie Manuel's office for a chat. The Phillies now are expected to reassign or cut either Eaton or Rudy Seanez to make room for Happ.
"Until I actually get a phone call that tells me it's happening, I don't feel I can comment," said Happ, who did confirm that he was not pulled from his start due to injury or illness. "Obviously I'd like to be up there, but they haven't made any move yet."
well farg me...maybe Eaton is going to be DFA'd.
QuoteUTLEY'S HIP IS A CONCERN
Posted 7/27/2008 9:00 PM EDT on CourierPost Online
PHILADELPHIA - For the past three months, Chase Utley hasn't appeared to be Chase Utley.
His offensive numbers have been down due to a combination of bad luck, poor timing and now, even though he won't use it as an excuse, injury.
On Sunday, general manager Pat Gillick admitted that that the three-time All-Star at second base is "having some trouble with his (right) hip." How much more than an everyday bump and bruise this is remains in doubt but it's certain he is being treated for problem on a daily basis including anti-inflammatory medication.
"I have no idea what you're talking about," Utley said with a smile in front of his locker.
"That's a good question because I don't know anything about that. I understand why you'd ask the question because I think I'd ask the same question."
"I think this is just a miscommunication or something."
That's fine. It's the answer one expects from Utley who could be in a full body cast and never admit there was a problem. That said, it's long been speculated his troubles over the last month are more than just a slump or overcoming normal bumps and bruises. How much his hip affects his swing is anyone's guess because Utley surely won't admit too it.
Utley's contention has been from the start that he's struggled with the normal soreness of a 162-game season but that's been betrayed by a lack of production on the field that has been magnified by struggles team wide. Since his high water mark - after 100 plate appearances - on April 24 when he had a .385 average and a 1.288 OPS the UCLA product has hit just .257 with an OPS of .821. Take that one step further and since June 14, the day he began an 0-for-29 stretch, Utley has hit just .227 with a .672 and three home runs.
"He'll work it out," manager Charlie Manuel said late last week. "That's part of the game. Good hitters hit slumps. It's noticed a lot, especially when you go two or three games and don't get a hit. He'll be OK. I'll put my money on Utley."
Way to not sit out of the AS game and HR derby....
n/m
Bums option Eaton to the minor leagues (http://philadelphia.phillies.mlb.com/news/press_releases/press_release.jsp?ymd=20080728&content_id=3211825&vkey=pr_phi&fext=.jsp&c_id=phi)
QuotePhillies option Eaton to Minor Leagues
Righthander Adam Eaton accepted an optional assignment to the Phillies' Minor League system, Senior Vice President & General Manager Pat Gillick announced today. No specific classification has been determined, as the Phillies work out his schedule.
A corresponding roster move to fill Eaton's spot on the 25-man roster will be made prior to Tuesday's game against the Nationals in Washington, D.C.
Eaton, 31, was 4-8 with a 5.80 ERA in 21 games (19 starts) for the Phillies this season. His last two appearances came in relief.
Still LOL @ Adam Eaton, then.
Is Happ any better? Probably not.
Now...move myers to the pen, and let Happ start tomorrow.
Quote from: FastFreddie on July 28, 2008, 11:26:14 AM
Still LOL @ Adam Eaton, then.
Is Happ any better? Probably not.
Are all of the posters here any better? Probably so.
I think Happ is going to be a bit overrated by some due to his recent success, but I don't think you can do much worse than Eaton right now.
I agree with Wingspan. Move Myers to the pen.
Happ is no savior. But like Blanton, helps shore up the back of the rotation.
Hamels/Kendrick/Moyer/Blanton/Happ is better than
Hamels/Kendrick/Moyer/Eaton/Myers
If nothing else, you remove the two pitchers that are most likely to implode on any given start and give you stability in the rotation. They still need a stud to go with Hamels as a 1-2 punch...but I doubt that happens by weeks end.
How soon can Happ pitch after just going 2 1/3 or whatever?
So, wait... is Kendrick the 2 now?
cant move myers to the pen before the nationals...they are the perfect team for him to possibly regain some confidence with a nice start...if they blow him up then send him overseas for all i care
Quote from: FastFreddie on July 28, 2008, 11:41:23 AM
How soon can Happ pitch after just going 2 1/3 or whatever?
So, wait... is Kendrick the 2 now?
He only threw 40 pitches. He could probably start tomorrow.
The phils rotation is like the birds WRs in 04...you have a #1 Hamels...and then 4 #3 guys.
And then when they can't re-sign Hamels, they have 5 #3 guys?
so it took them a year and a half to pull to plug on eaton? wow.
Good news. It's about goddamn time.
I would use Happ out of the pen to help. Let Romero become the LH specialist.
QuoteBy RANDY MILLER
phillyBurbs.com
PHILADELPHIA — Jimmy Rollins might want to head the other way if he sees Dallas Green coming his way.
Big D isn't happy with J-Roll's recent behavior, and, as usual, the Phillies' outspoken senior advisor to the general manager still isn't bashful about speaking his mind.
"Jimmy and I have a pretty good relationship," Green said Sunday in the middle innings of the Phillies' 12-10 win over the Atlanta Braves. "I'll tell him when I think he's done right, and I'll tell him when I think he's done wrong.
"He's done wrong. He's done wrong for the team, he's done wrong for himself and he's done wrong for Charlie."
Green, who will turn 73 next week and is in his 52nd season of pro baseball, strongly supports manager Charlie Manuel's decision to pull Rollins from the game for not hustling on June 5, and he also agrees with Manuel's benching of the 2007 National League MVP last Thursday for showing up at the ballpark late.
"I think we're all disappointed in Jimmy's reaction to what's going on," said Green, the manager of the Phillies' only championship team in 1980. "His body language is just brutal right now. The body language doesn't say that 'I'm busting my [rear] right now.' "
Hearing Rollins' post-game comments last Thursday bothered Green. Rollins said he was stuck in traffic and didn't think he let the team down because replacement Eric Bruntlett had three hits in a loss to the Mets at Shea Stadium. Green doesn't think Rollins realizes he's been a problem, and adds most of his teammates surely aren't happy with him. "Jimmy doesn't sense, I don't think, that the guys are starting to get upset with him," Green said. Rollins hasn't had a great season on the field, either, although he did contribute two hits, including his first homer in 33 games in Sunday's victory. Afterward, Rollins basically blew off the media for the third day in a row. A day after offering a "what a game; that's my quote" statement, Rollins was asked for a second of his time after Sunday's game and said, "Your second's up" while leaving the clubhouse. According to one major league scout, a change in Rollins was noticed back in March.
"He didn't run out a ball in spring training," the scout said.
When the Phillies were vying for the pennant in 1980, Green had an off-the-field issue with Garry Maddox and didn't start the eighttime Gold Glove center fielder six games in a row in the final week of the regular season.
"You gotta go with the rules you set," Green said. "If the rule is disobeyed, you gotta follow through with it, and Charlie did."
Years later, Green says he wouldn't be so harsh on Rollins, although sitting him one game wouldn't be his punishment for tardiness.
"I wouldn't have played [Rollins] the next day," Green said, "but it's a different time. Charlie did the right thing. Charlie said that he talked to him, and they got it straightened out. I assume that's what happened."
I hope the phils are smart enough to keep Dallas Green locked up in a cage somewhere. He shouldn't be allowed near the players. He's from a different era...let him go out to pasture already.
Green expects players to act professionally off the field and bust their asses on the field. But yeah, the Phillies should totally keep a guy like that away from today's players because today's players are a bunch of spoiled rotten disrespectful punks.
Normally I agree with keeping Green away and his trap wired shut. I am of the belief that players should be called out in private, which is why I like how Reid and Charlie go about business. But for some reason I liked seeing Green get on Jimmy's ass. Maybe Jimmy needs it and maybe it will help. He's been a bitch too much this year. He acts like they won something and that his big head is warranted.
He is supposed to be the leader and team captain. A leader or captain doesn't act the way he's acting either by dogging it on the field or acting like an icehole off it. It's inconceivable to me that he's now acting this way after the way he played last year. There's no rational explanation for it, but I guarantee you money is going to end up being part of the reason for his behavior. Just wait and see.
For whatever the reason, he's done a complete 180 this season - in style of play, in demeanor, and in results.
Almost like his head swelled a bit too much from the MVP season.
QuotePhillies could Acquire Halladay after recent reports?
Rumor has it Roy Halladay is not happy currently in Toronto, and Howard Eskin from 610 WIP stated that the Phillies inquired immediately to find that the price was atleast 3 top prospects. After backing off for a little bit, the Phillies offered SS Jason Donald, C Lou Marson, P JA Happ, and PTBNL. Toronto thought about the offer, and neglected, but said the offer was very close to what they wanted. He said that they wanted Fabio Castro added to the deal, but the Phillies expect Castro to be in the pen by the end of the year.
Look, no way this is true. If it is and the farging iceholes refused to add Fidel farging Castro they should all be shot and tea-bagged by Max Jean-Gilles.
heads up....Sunday's game at St. Louis was moved to the ESPN night one
yea really if the hold up is him then im gonna gut gillick with a plastic spoon
Halladay would be unreal but I think another team could offer more than Donald/Marson/Happ and maybe Castro.
DO IT
jayson stark reporting that donald for mahay is all but done
Quote from: ice grillin you on July 29, 2008, 01:56:36 PM
jayson stark reporting that donald for mahay is all but done
or...
QuotePhils 'not close' on Mahay
Tuesday, July 29, 2008 | Print Entry
Posted by Jayson Stark
A source with knowledge of the Phillies' trading discussions now says they're "not close" to any deal for left-handed reliever Ron Mahay. They plan to continue to explore all their left-handed relief options.
According to clubs that have been speaking with the Royals, they've been having extensive conversations with the Phillies about a trade that would send Mahay to Philadelphia for shortstop prospect Jason Donald, a member of the U.S. Olympic baseball team.
It's believed that as many as 10 teams have contacted the Royals about Mahay, who is signed for next year at $4 million. Most of them have come away with the impression that the Royals aren't motivated to trade him. But in Donald, the Phillies have a commodity for which Kansas City has been searching aggressively. So the fit appears better with the Phillies than with any of the other teams on the Royals' list.
lol
id hope to believe zolecki. trading a top 3 prospect from a middle reliever = ed wade.
Even though I'm sure there's no validity to the rumor on the last page I've had Halladay wood for a majority of the day.
also happ officially up for eaton
and pedro phillies is on the dl so that mike cervanek cat is back up
Fay-leese
Quote from: ice grillin you on July 29, 2008, 01:56:36 PM
jayson stark reporting that donald for mahay is all but done
Mahay would be a solid addition and something they need.
Wow - Rollins gets a hit, and Utley hits a homer with 2 outs.
I guess you guys were right about righting the ship against Washington... for now.
SI.com claims Phils lead the Manny sweepstakes (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2008/baseball/mlb/07/29/manny.dodgers/index.html)
Manny and prospects for Burrell would be just about the dumbest thing they could do. Straight up? I guess.
Myers pitched well tonight, and should have two outs on that muff by Utley.
2-1 final :yay
Manny for Burrell? Uh, no.
Manny for Burrell makes absolute sense
if you want to get worse in the outfield and crush team chemistry (if there is any now).
2-1.. at least myers didn't implode.
manny for burrell would be a lateral move except that he makes like 8 million more this year.
if they can get him without trading burrell.. do it yesterday. if their not going to land a starter.. then do something that would actually help.
Manny + Burrell in the OF = Major defensive disaster.
Good to see Myers throw like that tonight. As far as movement and location and velocity went he did what he should have done. He let them make contact and kept himself out of trouble.
Manny would be great. But I do not want to give up Burrell. Never though I would say that.
Well you can't have both of them, Billy Bob. So it's one or the other. Manny is obviously the better talent, but he's crazy. Burrell just whores around and does lots of coke. I choose him.
I told you Burrell and Lidge were good.
Quote from: MDS on July 30, 2008, 12:53:49 AM
Well you can't have both of them, Billy Bob. So it's one or the other. Manny is obviously the better talent, but he's crazy. Burrell just whores around and does lots of coke. I choose him.
Yeah, in general, Burrell is basically a poor man's Manny. Except he's probably actually better in the field.
Unless the Sox were willing to pay a huge chunk of Manny's salary, I don't see the point. And I REALLY don't see the point of trading for Manny without giving up Burrell. Starting both of them would be a disaster in the outfield.
Was at the game last night with decent seats, about ten rows up from third base. I've gotta say, for a brand new park, I was thoroughly disappointed with it, especially when compared to CBP. Nats park has all the usual vendors, and that was it. There was some stupid thing called the "Red Porch" in center field, but that was basically a big ass concrete veranda with a tiny shtein little bar. It seemed like they designed the park with good angles and all the right architectural details, then said farg it when it came to outfitting the place.
As usual, Washington fans are a farging joke. First year of a brand new park and with a division opponent coming to town, and the park looked to be about at 50% capacity when the first pitch was thrown. A lot of the people that were that did show up were typical "got-the-tickets" from work business types in suits who talked on their cell phones for about 70% of the time. It was t-shirt night, and twice the P.A asked for everyone to wave their shirts, and I think I counted less than fifty being waved at any given moment.
50% capacity isn't bad for a team firmly in last place on a Tuesday night.
yeah i didnt think the crowd was bad at all...it was much worse for the last series
i agree about the stadium in general it has a barren unfinished look and the bank shteins all over it...but i love the red porch...last series me and matty got the $5 seats and just stood out there the whole game
We hung out in the Red Porch deal for about an inning or so, then moved back down to our seats. There is so much space up there and such a tiny bar, and again, it looked totally desolate for the most part, no TVs, zesty little tables that you could move around, and flat gray paint everywhere. Other then getting to watch the Phils in person for only the second time this season, we were pretty stoked to go and check out the new stadium. It was terrible.
the only reason that there were as many people last night as there were is because they do t-shirt tuesdays.
and obviously compared to RFK the new place is great, but for a brand new stadium there is nothing special about it. i guess there's one section that gives you a great view of the capitol but i have yet to see that. mostly just see zesty unused smokestacks.
and i like the red porch deal too, just don't throw cups at the command center.
they gotta do something about the camera angles from 2 miles away
eskin reporting that king has a small fracture in his pitching elbow but can pitch with it for now
That... is bad.
http://www.courierpostonline.com/apps/pbcs.dll/section?category=PluckPersona&U=a3bb1ddee22d4cbb91f6b50e7950a717&plckPersonaPage=BlogViewPost&plckUserId=a3bb1ddee22d4cbb91f6b50e7950a717&plckPostId=Blog%3aa3bb1ddee22d4cbb91f6b50e7950a717Post%3a4e1e3218-5604-4117-aee6-a99eb9f93e16&plckController=PersonaBlog&plckScript=personaScript&plckElementId=personaDest
Michael Radano is stating that Eskin is patently false about the report and that Cole is fine. Who would have thought that Eskin would be incorrect about something having to do with the Phillies? :o
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Are you farging kidding me with that link?
[url=http://www.trylinkinglikethis.com/jackass]LINK[/url]
Eskin's a liar, and E_L is a mama's boy (http://www.courierpostonline.com/apps/pbcs.dll/section?category=PluckPersona&U=a3bb1ddee22d4cbb91f6b50e7950a717&plckPersonaPage=BlogViewPost&plckUserId=a3bb1ddee22d4cbb91f6b50e7950a717&plckPostId=Blog%3aa3bb1ddee22d4cbb91f6b50e7950a717Post%3a4e1e3218-5604-4117-aee6-a99eb9f93e16&plckController=PersonaBlog&plckScript=personaScript&plckElementId=personaDest).
I love my mama. :'(
I work with (for) her remember?
:poison
Manny rumor is B.S. per Stark:
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Little interest in Manny
Tuesday, July 29, 2008 | Print Entry
Posted by Jayson Stark
A Phillies official told ESPN.com Tuesday night persistent reports that Philadelphia is pursuing Manny Ramirez are "false" and said the Phillies have "nothing doing" with the Red Sox involving Ramirez or any other player.
Meanwhile, a baseball man who speaks regularly with the Dodgers' front office said that the team also has no interest in trading for Ramirez, despite reports to the contrary.
The two other teams linked to Ramirez, the Mets and Diamondbacks, had previously denied interest. So while the Red Sox continue to float Ramirez's name around baseball, there were no indications Tuesday that they're making any significant headway.
Also...
QuoteThe Phillies continue to hunt for modestly priced left-handed bullpen types. The list of left-handers they're known to have called on includes John Grabow, Will Ohman, Arthur Rhodes and Jack Taschner.
And...
QuoteManny to the Marlins?
Wednesday, July 30, 2008 | Print Entry
Posted by Buster Olney
With less than 24 hours before the trade deadline, the Red Sox are engaged in serious conversations to trade Manny Ramirez to the Florida Marlins, as well as other teams. If the Red Sox make a deal with the Marlins, it is likely they would kick in money to offset Ramirez's salary, and they would look for three young players in return -- perhaps outfielder Jeremy Hermida or outfielder Josh Willingham, plus pitchers.
The Red Sox have gone down this road many times before with Ramirez, seriously discussing a deal before pulling back -- but what might be different this time is that Ramirez apparently has just two months of regular season with the Red Sox, and Boston could be asking the internal question of how invested Ramirez will be in the last days of the year.
Looks like a strong outing from Moyer... two homers and two doubles in the first inning.
Quote from: Eagles_Legendz on July 30, 2008, 05:41:41 PM
http://www.courierpostonline.com/apps/pbcs.dll/section?category=PluckPersona&U=a3bb1ddee22d4cbb91f6b50e7950a717&plckPersonaPage=BlogViewPost&plckUserId=a3bb1ddee22d4cbb91f6b50e7950a717&plckPostId=Blog%3aa3bb1ddee22d4cbb91f6b50e7950a717Post%3a4e1e3218-5604-4117-aee6-a99eb9f93e16&plckController=PersonaBlog&plckScript=personaScript&plckElementId=personaDest
Michael Radano is stating that Eskin is patently false about the report and that Cole is fine. Who would have thought that Eskin would be incorrect about something having to do with the Phillies? :o
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i have no idea if eskin is right but mike radano isnt exactly the phillies gospel and id take eskins word over his (not on this just in general)...you can hate eskin...hell i cant stand the guy...but he hits on a ton of stuff whether you wanna admit it or not
except when he's a shill for the Eagles' front office
His disdain for the Phillies is well documented. He hates them and does anything he can to blast them. If Cole was hurt like that, we'd have heard more about it.
Zolecki, Randy Miller, Paul Hagen, and the Phillies all say Eskin is wrong.
Utley's hip must be feeling better.
Quote from: FastFreddie on July 30, 2008, 06:54:25 PM
Manny rumor is B.S. per Stark:
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Little interest in Manny
Tuesday, July 29, 2008 | Print Entry
Posted by Jayson Stark
A Phillies official told ESPN.com Tuesday night persistent reports that Philadelphia is pursuing Manny Ramirez are "false" and said the Phillies have "nothing doing" with the Red Sox involving Ramirez or any other player.
Meanwhile, a baseball man who speaks regularly with the Dodgers' front office said that the team also has no interest in trading for Ramirez, despite reports to the contrary.
The two other teams linked to Ramirez, the Mets and Diamondbacks, had previously denied interest. So while the Red Sox continue to float Ramirez's name around baseball, there were no indications Tuesday that they're making any significant headway.
Also...
QuoteThe Phillies continue to hunt for modestly priced left-handed bullpen types. The list of left-handers they're known to have called on includes John Grabow, Will Ohman, Arthur Rhodes and Jack Taschner.
And...
QuoteManny to the Marlins?
Wednesday, July 30, 2008 | Print Entry
Posted by Buster Olney
With less than 24 hours before the trade deadline, the Red Sox are engaged in serious conversations to trade Manny Ramirez to the Florida Marlins, as well as other teams. If the Red Sox make a deal with the Marlins, it is likely they would kick in money to offset Ramirez's salary, and they would look for three young players in return -- perhaps outfielder Jeremy Hermida or outfielder Josh Willingham, plus pitchers.
The Red Sox have gone down this road many times before with Ramirez, seriously discussing a deal before pulling back -- but what might be different this time is that Ramirez apparently has just two months of regular season with the Red Sox, and Boston could be asking the internal question of how invested Ramirez will be in the last days of the year.
Update;
QuoteMLB.com that a three-way trade may be in the works.
Under this scenario, Ramirez would go to the Marlins, while Jeremy Hermida would go to the Pirates, and Jason Bay would go to the Red Sox.
The Marlins are not afraid to roll the dice and gamble. Team president David Samson, when asked on the team's flagship station, 790 The Ticket, was asked about the Manny Ramirez rumors.
"The Marlins always seem to be in the middle of everything," Samson said. "I don't know how we do that every deadline. We're spending all day trying to figure out a way where we can get better, to stay good, to try to figure out a way how we could win this thing. Everything is possible."
When it comes to the Sixers/Eagles/etc I suppose I'd take Howard's 'word' over Radano's, but not on the Phillies and certainly not when you read that link and he explains Hamels throwing yesterday and coming in the clubhouse today joking about wearing a cast tonight. More importantly, for as great of a pitcher as Hamels is, he's a prima donna and self centered. Remember in the playoffs last year when he said he would have refused to start a day ahead of schedule for fear of messing up his arm/rotation? I have no doubt that if Hamels was injured he'd sit himself down.
Victorino! Beautiful.
Good thing Werth came in for defense. :boom
Quote from: Geowhizzer on July 30, 2008, 09:28:57 PM
Good thing Werth came in for defense. :boom
what's even funnier is he flopped right in front of the Phillie contingent in left field :-D
Phils win, Mets lose. Back in first, for now.
that 3-way marlins trade was submitted to the commissioner for approval :-\
Oh, noes.
Phils need pitching more than anything.
Ramirez might be the most talented player of his generation. Too bad he's also a fat, lazy malcontent who doesn't give a farg about anything or anyone but himself.
Toss his ass into a vat of acid for all I care. If I had to choose, I'd still stick with Burrell in left. At least he still seems to give a shtein. Witness his comments about Uncle Cholly pulling him out in the seventh every night for proof of that.
If Manny thinks he's mistreated in Boston, wait until he plays in front of fans that could give a farging rats ass down in Florida.
LOL. Funny shtein.
Here's a picture of the collision between Victorino and McCann the other game.
(http://d.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/ap/20080728/capt.3ec01887e23c4fe999d63c3f45062709.aptopix_braves_phillies_baseball_patm106.jpg?x=400&y=294&sig=LEW4tY1eDCt8wutJLpFz_A--)
Quote from: PhillyGirl on July 30, 2008, 10:32:07 PM
If Manny thinks he's mistreated in Boston, wait until he plays in front of fans that could give a farging rats ass down in Florida.
LOL. Funny shtein.
I'm sure he'll be thrilled to be playing in front of 16,000 a night. And hey, they'll all speak his native tongue too!
:-D
Quote from: Geowhizzer on July 30, 2008, 10:39:39 PM
Here's a picture of the collision between Victorino and McCann the other game.
(http://d.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/ap/20080728/capt.3ec01887e23c4fe999d63c3f45062709.aptopix_braves_phillies_baseball_patm106.jpg?x=400&y=294&sig=LEW4tY1eDCt8wutJLpFz_A--)
hey Don, did they show that on the highlights, awesome play by the way
why would the pirates do that? is bay in the last year of his contract?
also does anyone of our loser dc people know if its true that the nats box office closes at 5?
Quote from: Seabiscuit36 on July 30, 2008, 11:17:17 PM
Quote from: Geowhizzer on July 30, 2008, 10:39:39 PM
Here's a picture of the collision between Victorino and McCann the other game.
(http://d.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/ap/20080728/capt.3ec01887e23c4fe999d63c3f45062709.aptopix_braves_phillies_baseball_patm106.jpg?x=400&y=294&sig=LEW4tY1eDCt8wutJLpFz_A--)
hey Don, did they show that on the highlights, awesome play by the way
They had the whole sequence in Monday's sport page. The local press is all over Shane. Updates every night.
Funny as Kurt Suzuki of the A's is also a Maui boy, played for Shane's high school rival. He's having a great year in Oakland. Tough little shtein.
BTW, Burrell leads the national league in outfield assists... again.
Quote from: FastFreddie on July 31, 2008, 06:56:07 AM
BTW, Burrell leads the national league in outfield assists... again.
Yeah, he may move at a glacial pace (though faster than Manny Ramirez, from what I hear), but he has a strong and accurate arm.
I was watching the game last night listening to Nats broadcast, and one of the tards dropped a pretty nice stat on Victorino. They were talking about he's almost impossible to strike out, and that he makes contact in 90+ percent of his ABs. I checked, and as of this morning dude has 366 ABs with 39 strike outs. Someone needs to attach Howard to his hip.
Quote from: MDS on July 31, 2008, 12:52:22 AM
also does anyone of our loser dc people know if its true that the nats box office closes at 5?
Google.
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Fans may purchase single game tickets through nationals.com, by calling 888.632.NATS (6287) or by going to the Nationals Park box office located on the corner of the Northeast Parking Garage at the Center Field Gate. Box office hours are Monday-Friday, 10 a.m. - 5 p.m. and Saturday 10 a.m. - 3 p.m
If you are trying to get tickets, but can't make it by 5:00, you can order them online and print them. I did this for the Tuesday game, they just scan your print out on the way in.
to be clear it doesnt close at 5 on gamedays....no box offices do (for obvious reasons)
maybe b/c of the weather, but last night was the most people i've ever seen at nats stadium.
QuoteRockies close to decision on Fuentes
Wednesday, July 30, 2008 | Print Entry
Posted by Jayson Stark
The Rockies informed all the teams interested in reliever Brian Fuentes on Wednesday afternoon that they would decide late Wednesday night whether to put Fuentes on the market. All those teams also were told exactly what it would take from their club to get Fuentes if the Rockies opt to trade him. At least three of those clubs -- the Mets, Phillies and Rays -- have told the Rockies that, because of the price, they're out of the Fuentes derby.
No way on Fuentes.
And no on anyone else, either:
QuotePhils unlikely to add reliever
Thursday, July 31, 2008 | Print Entry
Posted by Buster Olney
The Phillies made a move for a starting pitcher in Joe Blanton at the All-Star break, and they have evaluated the market for relievers. But with 30 minutes remaining before the deadline, it did not appear the Phillies would land a reliever; it was more likely the deadline would come and go without the Phillies making a trade, sources said. Of course, that could change with a single phone call.
He's been adding that last line to every post. Stellar reporting.
Does anyone want to sign up for the monthly Pat Burrell newsletter?
harry.stilson@gmail.com
phillies are a complete farging joke...another year wasted
but at least they still have carlos carrasco and lou marson
another reason they are a joke. Boston has Manny blow up on them and has to trade him in a week, and they manage to get an all-star back.
the Phillies traded Bobby Abreu when they had a half of a year to get offers for him and got 4 stiffs back that will never play for them ever.
Stand Pat!
speaking of abreu
remember when they traded abreu and gillick said they were sellers because the team wasnt ready to win that year or even the next...but in two years they would be a world series contender...well we are in that year now and nothing has changed
I've been trying to tell you for 3 years that Gillick is not a good GM. He's made, 3 good moves in 3 years?
I would say doing nothing at the deadline would be a good thing because most of Gillick's team's fall apart shortly after leaving them, but his replacement is probably going to be Amaro...and not Arbuckle (as it should be if you were to limit yourself to in house candidates).
has nothing to do with the gm...its the ownership...they will never win until they sell...and gillick is a great gm who has been just ok with the phillies...nothing more nothing less
Gillick has been horrid
Quote from: ice grillin you on July 31, 2008, 05:17:50 PM
has nothing to do with the gm...its the ownership...they will never win until they sell...and gillick is a great gm who has been just ok with the phillies...nothing more nothing less
Absolutely right about the ownership. They will never win a World Series until this team gets new ownership. They only care about winning if it can be done under their budget and rules. If it can't they really don't give a shtein. They'll just ride out the season, make a ton of money and not blink.
I feel sorry for the people who spend tons of money and time to drive down there every night and have them every year never try to win.
Kendrick reaches 1st on a passed ball 3rd strike, then Rollins homers.
The Nationals are making these bums look really good.
QuoteWASHINGTON (AP) — The Philadelphia Phillies were among the teams trying to deal for Manny Ramirez on Thursday, but their bid to trade for the Boston Red Sox slugger fell short.
In fact, the Phillies didn't make a deal before the league's 4 p.m. EDT trade deadline.
Phillies general manager Pat Gillick said the team had a "good feeling" at one point about landing Ramirez, but the deal didn't come together.
"We were talking," Gillick said before the Phillies faced the Washington Nationals. "We were involved. We couldn't get where they wanted to be, and we couldn't get where we wanted to be."
The Red Sox traded the disgruntled Ramirez to the Los Angeles Dodgers in a three-team trade. In return, Boston got Jason Bay from Pittsburgh. The Pirates received four young players in return.
Earlier Thursday, it seemed as if Ramirez was on his way to the Florida Marlins, but those talks broke down.
Gillick also said the Phillies were looking for a left-handed pitcher and even came close on a possible three-way deal involving a starting pitcher. Philadelphia actually reached an agreement with one club, according to Gillick, but that team couldn't connect with the other team involved.
"I'm not disappointed," manager Charlie Manuel said. "We'll take what we got and work with it. If something you like comes available and things like that, from here on out there's ways of maneuvering it to get somebody."
Yeah, ok. Hopefully they can get some help via the waiver trade market.
According to the local sports radio station, the Marlins wanted the Red Sox to pay Ramirez' salary PLUS an extra $2 million. Apparently the Red Sox were willing to play the salary, but not the extra.
Eaton's line in his A-ball start tonight;
3.2 IP
5 H
4 ER
1 BB
2 K
1 HR
Bum.
Murphy's DN blog;
QuoteLots of stuff to get to. Before I get into some of the details of the trade deadline negotiations, I thought I'd point out one of the most intriguing and bewildering developments of the day. General manager Pat Gillick said the Phillies were pondering an "adjustment" that would get J.A. Happ out of the bullpen. When asked if that adjustment involved sending Happ to the minor leagues, Gillick said that the Phillies were examining another "alternative." I'll tell you this: it isn't Brett Myers going to the bullpen. Beyond that, I have nothing concrete.
Gillick didn't say it was a definite. But everything the Phillies have said - particularly Charlie Manuel, who reiterated today that he views Happ as a starter - seems to indicate that they want the young lefty to get another major league start.
Now, onto the other business. . .
Gillick said the Phillies thought they had a chance to add a starting pitcher through a three-way trade that eventually fell through. He also said the Phillies were involved in discussions for Manny Ramirez, but that the asking price was too high. Ramirez eventually landed with the Dodgers.
Other notes:
1) The market for lefty relievers was well beyond what the Phillies were willing to pay. For example, the Marlins gave up a 21-year-old pitcher who Baseball America rated as the No. 5 prospect in the organization to land 38-year-old Arthur Rhodes.
2) Interest in short stop Jason Donald was significant, but it would have taken the right player for the Phillies to part with him.
3) Gillick and Manuel both said they are not disappointed that they did not add another piece. The silver lining: the Mets and Marlins did not significantly upgrade either.
Though the Phillies spent much of the past two days actively trying to land a lefthanded reliever in order to bolster their playoff chances, Major League Baseball's trading deadline passed at 4 p.m. today without any announced moves.
The Phillies had considered a number of players, including Pittsburgh's John Grabow, Atlanta's Will Ohman, San Francisco's Jack Taschner and Kansas City's Ron Mahay, but were unable to strike a deal.
The Phillies still could add a player before the end of the season, but any players involved in a trade would have to pass through waivers before being dealt. It isn't out of the question -- the Phillies added Jamie Moyer in that manner two years ago -- but general manager Pat Gillick said yesterday the likelihood of a deal decreases significantly once today's deadline passes.
"There are guys that slip through, but there is just a larger pool of players to pick from prior to (the deadline)," Gillick said.
The Phillies added righthander Joe Blanton earlier this month, but were hopeful to add a lefty reliever to supplement J.C. Romero in the bullpen. They also were exploring a possible deal for a hitter that could help bolster an offense that has been inconsistent for most of the last two months.
Striking a deal beyond July 31 can be difficult because rival clubs can block a trade by claiming a player off of waivers and forcing his current club to withdraw the waiver request and keep him on the team.
So while the Phillies may not be done adding personnel, all the major parts are likely in place for the playoff run.
Anyone care to explain what that means about getting Happ a start?
6-man rotation?
Maybe Blanton to the bullpen
Kendrick has struggled recently (before tonight) so maybe as his replacement
Quote from: SD_Eagle on July 31, 2008, 11:53:15 PM
Maybe Blanton to the bullpen
Kendrick has struggled recently (before tonight) so maybe as his replacement
Kendrick took the L in his last outing after only allowing 1 run. And the Phillies are 15-7 with him as the starter..
Hamels/Moyer/Kendrick have been fine.
I have no idea what they're thinking now.
Quote from: SD_Eagle on July 31, 2008, 11:53:15 PM
Maybe Blanton to the bullpen
Kendrick has struggled recently (before tonight) so maybe as his replacement
There's no way they could move Blanton. Imagine the outrage of trading for a guy to eat innings and be a solid starter and giving up prospects only to move him after a couple starts to be a long man.
I doubt it would be Kendrick either.
This team makes me want to smash my head in.
Quote from: King Cole on July 31, 2008, 07:51:16 PM
I feel sorry for the people who spend tons of money and time to drive down there every night and have them every year never try to win.
what about people who spend lots of money and drive there from merryland
nationals park blows
and ryan langerhans is a fag
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on July 31, 2008, 09:32:02 PM
QuoteWASHINGTON (AP) — The Philadelphia Phillies were among the teams trying to deal for Manny Ramirez on Thursday, but their bid to trade for the Boston Red Sox slugger fell short.
In fact, the Phillies didn't make a deal before the league's 4 p.m. EDT trade deadline.
Phillies general manager Pat Gillick said the team had a "good feeling" at one point about landing Ramirez, but the deal didn't come together.
"We were talking," Gillick said before the Phillies faced the Washington Nationals. "We were involved. We couldn't get where they wanted to be, and we couldn't get where we wanted to be."
The Red Sox traded the disgruntled Ramirez to the Los Angeles Dodgers in a three-team trade. In return, Boston got Jason Bay from Pittsburgh. The Pirates received four young players in return.
Earlier Thursday, it seemed as if Ramirez was on his way to the Florida Marlins, but those talks broke down.
Gillick also said the Phillies were looking for a left-handed pitcher and even came close on a possible three-way deal involving a starting pitcher. Philadelphia actually reached an agreement with one club, according to Gillick, but that team couldn't connect with the other team involved.
"I'm not disappointed," manager Charlie Manuel said. "We'll take what we got and work with it. If something you like comes available and things like that, from here on out there's ways of maneuvering it to get somebody."
Yeah, ok. Hopefully they can get some help via the waiver trade market.
leave, and retire. thanks for nothing, ass.
LOL at Washington. It looked like there was about 10,000 Phillies fans in attendance last night, especially behind home plate. Every time the Phillies got a big hit a bunch of Phillies fans would stand up and cheer.
Nice sweep of the Nats, but really, they're horrendous and they should be swept. Anything less would have been unacceptable.
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on August 01, 2008, 12:17:31 AM
Quote from: SD_Eagle on July 31, 2008, 11:53:15 PM
Maybe Blanton to the bullpen
Kendrick has struggled recently (before tonight) so maybe as his replacement
There's no way they could move Blanton. Imagine the outrage of trading for a guy to eat innings and be a solid starter and giving up prospects only to move him after a couple starts to be a long man.
Only thing worse would be signing a guy to $8 million a year then sending him to Lakewood. Wait.
Quote from: Rome on August 01, 2008, 06:10:58 AM
LOL at Washington. It looked like there was about 10,000 Phillies fans in attendance last night, especially behind home plate. Every time the Phillies got a big hit a bunch of Phillies fans would stand up and cheer.
Nice sweep of the Nats, but really, they're horrendous and they should be swept. Anything less would have been unacceptable.
there were a ton of phillie fans..probably harder to see on tv but the sections behind the phils dugout was 80% phillie fans
and the nats truly are terrible...worst team ive seen in a while
I watched the replay on MLB.TV after I got home last night and it sounded like it was a Phillies home game. Seriously, I wouldn't be surprised if there were 10,000 Phillies fans there. Not shocking considering it's the same thing at taterskins & Caps games.
Washington sucks.
lol nats
http://texas.rangers.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20080731&content_id=3232500&vkey=news_tex&fext=.jsp&c_id=tex
still weird that the Daniels guy running the Rangers is our age
he's 13?!
Quote from: ice grillin you on August 01, 2008, 11:31:57 AM
lol nats
http://texas.rangers.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20080731&content_id=3232500&vkey=news_tex&fext=.jsp&c_id=tex
That's awesome on many levels.
Quote from: ice grillin you on August 01, 2008, 11:31:57 AM
lol nats
http://texas.rangers.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20080731&content_id=3232500&vkey=news_tex&fext=.jsp&c_id=tex
Those zany millionaires and their silly shenanigans. What a laugh riot!
Quote from: BigEd76 on August 01, 2008, 12:22:53 PM
still weird that the Daniels guy running the Rangers is our age
Yeah I was at college with him. Clearly he made some better life choices than I did. Motherfarger.
hamels is cooked and its one day into august.
Quote from: L-ong-B-each-I-ggle on August 01, 2008, 09:11:42 PM
hamels is cooked and its one day into august.
He's not cooked. But he needs to get his curveball to the level of his fastball and changeup.
it started out is lohse > kendrick and now its is lohse > hamels
Funny what happens when you have to play a real team, and not the Nationals.
lol, what a bunch of frauds. The Phillies suck.
its cool we have blanton up tomorrow. all is well.
hamels has given up 5 or more runs in six starts this year
he no longer deserves to be the king....he will have to earn that back
There's only one King Cole in town.
(http://media.scout.com/media/image/48/487187.jpg)
pat burrell is such a hunk
Quote from: MDS on August 01, 2008, 09:47:54 PM
pat burrell is such a hunk
he has been clutch this year and therefore, will not be resigned.
lol @ clutch
should i write you guys one of my essays about why clutchness doesnt exist.
doing something good when your team needs it. you know, the exact opposite of carlos ruiz. nah, it probably doesn't exist.
pat burrell has a 28% chance to get a hit, 40% chance to reach base every time he comes to the plate. what inning it is means nothing.
neither does the score i guess.
no not really
its all odds and percentages basically. nerdy math stuff. saber nerds like mcgraw get boners when they get to talk about this stuff.
that was an example of not clutch hitting
that was an example of someone who hits right handers very avergely (not a word) doing what he was most likely gonna do.
also having bruntlett and ruiz lead off this inning does not bode well.
Phils, Mets, Marlins all lose. Good thing the Bums are in a shtein division.
Quote from: ice grillin you on August 01, 2008, 09:38:05 PM
hamels has given up 5 or more runs in six starts this year
he no longer deserves to be the king....he will have to earn that back
Sadly I agree.
His penchant for giving up the long ball is really hurting him. You could see from the jump tonight that his pitches were high and tailing out across the plate and it was only a matter of time until someone took him deep.
Too bad it had to be some shteinbag, Jerry Mathers or whatever his name is, wearing a damn non-roster invitee number.
He's has two piss poor starts in a row.
Oh, and then the text book definition of INCONSISTENT trots in there and gives up another bomb. Madson was shtein, then he was real good and now he's back to garbage again.
They just won 5 in a row. Yea Cole is a Hoyda and pitched like ass again, but 5 game winning streaks are gonna have to come to an end sooner or later.
its pretty bad when MDS is the voice of reason.
like really bad.
like harold and kumar bad.
the phils are bad. neat.
Quote from: QB Eagles on August 01, 2008, 11:34:32 PM
Phils, Mets, Marlins all lose. Good thing the Bums are in a shtein division.
Hi, I'm the NL West. Have we met?
Quote from: King Cole on August 01, 2008, 09:35:31 PM
Funny what happens when you have to play a real team, and not the Nationals.
lol, what a bunch of frauds. The Phillies suck.
Funny how you wait a week in between losses to post this same repetitive drivel again.
Quote from: MDS on August 02, 2008, 01:01:59 AM
They just won 5 in a row. Yea Cole is a Hoyda and pitched like ass again, but 5 game winning streaks are gonna have to come to an end sooner or later.
they played atlanta who has waived the white flag and then the played a minor league team
yea. if they get swept we can whine. if they win the next 2 youre gonna be happy. if they lose 2/3 then none of us will be surprised because theyll lose a series on the road to a team thats probably better than them.
ha...probably better than them?
and the problem with losing 2/3 would not be a problem if they could win 2/3 against ANY team that might be better than them...or hell even as good.....how many times have they done that in the last two months
im questioning whether you have even watched this season or not
Lohse > Johan Santana?
lets see:
they beat the cubs 2/3 in early april
split a 2 gamer in milwaukee
split a 4 gamer in arizona
beat florida 2/3 at home
beat arizona 2/3 at home
not really impressive but they are 9 games over .500 and in first place. compared to the al and nl central they are inferior, yes. but at this point the logical world series is beating the mets, and despite losing 2/3 or 3/4 in every series to them they are 1 game better. so cheer up, murray.
can i get the dates of all those series
also their total record vs teams over .500
The Cardinals are not a better team than the Phillies.
Quote from: ice grillin you on August 02, 2008, 06:14:07 PM
can i get the dates of all those series
also their total record vs teams over .500
milwaukee and zona were late april/early may
florida was late may
zona was last series before the break
their total record against .500 teams (including toronto and oakland who are basically .500 teams) is 22-30 (i think).
so theyve beaten one over .500 team since may...actually better than i thought
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on August 02, 2008, 06:14:49 PM
The Cardinals are not a better team than the Phillies.
Standings say otherwise, Phreak.
Quote from: ice grillin you on August 02, 2008, 06:26:05 PM
so theyve beaten one over .500 team since may...actually better than i thought
and arizona isnt even that good. they play in a terrible division and are only a few games over.
and it doesnt help the sillies that their best starter got rocked so now they are relying on a fat guy and a trashy guy to get something out of this weekend.
Quote from: Geowhizzer on August 02, 2008, 06:26:15 PM
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on August 02, 2008, 06:14:49 PM
The Cardinals are not a better team than the Phillies.
Standings say otherwise, Phreak.
Yeah, I know. But still, I don't think they're better. STL is playing with smoke and mirrors.
They'll fall flat soon.
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on August 02, 2008, 06:14:49 PM
STL is playing with smoke and mirrors.
what are the phillies playing with?
the main difference btwn st louis and the phils is the manager...st louis has arguably the best manager of all time and the phillies have one of the worst in the majors
Tony LaRussa is overrated.
When they were playing the Mets last week there was 2 runners on base (2nd and 3rd) with the score 8-5 in favor of the Cards. He has the BP up and warming but yet he let Isringhausen hit with 2 outs. Then he takes him out of the game for a new pitcher. The Mets tied it up and the game went deep into extras.
The reason he's been successful is Dave Duncan.
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on August 02, 2008, 06:50:26 PM
Tony LaRussa is overrated.
The reason he's been successful is Dave Duncan.
lol
And if Charlie did what he did in that situation, the one you had no comment on, you'd be on fire.
so because larussa made some random bad move the other night that means a guy that has won multiple world series is to be compared to a guy who butchers games on a daily basis
i personally think larussa might be the best manager of all time but even if you dont i dont know anyone except you phreak that thinks hes overrated...hes a brillaint baseball guy thru and thru
Quote from: ice grillin you on August 02, 2008, 07:14:10 PM
so because larussa made some random bad move the other night that means a guy that has won multiple world series is to be compared to a guy who butchers games on a daily basis
i personally think larussa might be the best manager of all time but even if you dont i dont know anyone except you phreak that thinks hes overrated...hes a brillaint baseball guy thru and thru
I have seen quite a few people who think he's overrated and are turned off by his attitude that seems to think he invented the game or that he's smarter than anyone else in the game.
I'm not comparing him to Charlie, I'm saying that if Charlie does that he's killed. LaRussa does it and you don't care.
I believe most of the credit goes to Duncan.
Anyways, Blanton pitched pretty damn good tonight. The offense has been quiet though and only have 3 hits, 2 of the solo shots by Dobbs and Choke.
larussa is a hall of famer...i dont think anyone thats ever been in any hall of fame in any sport is overrated
frankly trying to downplay his accomplishments and using a pitching coach whos has never managed a single major league game in his life pretty friggin outrageous
Have you seen that pitching staff? And pitching staffs in the past? He's a miracle worker.
hes a great pitching coach i agree...but that doesnt make tony larussa overrated as a manager
is bobby cox overrated because leo was his pitching coach...leo was a train wreck as a manager
who are some great major league managers because they were also good pitching coaches
I think Bobby Cox is good. But Mazzone had a lot to do with it. But Cox just seems different to me than LaRussa. More consistent and less of a know-it-all smug bastich.
LaRussa is accomplished, yes. But also somewhat overrated, IMO.
aaaaah you hate larussa because hes a pompous dick...cant argue with that...but you gotta seperate your hate of him from his managerial abilities which are top notch
Quote from: ice grillin you on August 02, 2008, 06:26:05 PM
so theyve beaten one over .500 team since may...actually better than i thought
They obviously had a brutal June, but they've taken 2/3 from both St. Louis and Arizona within the last month, and they've got a shot at doing it against St. Louis again.
They have been less than impressive against the Marlins and Mets, and they've been terrible against the AL. Baseball's a streaky game, if they catch a hot streak going into the playoffs, there's no reason they couldn't have as much success in the playoffs as Colorado last year. Or they could have another month like June and miss the playoffs. They are still very much in that jumble of NL teams with a shot. Beating the AL team, that's a different story.
They needed another stud pitcher. Hmmm... Sabathia is 5-0 with Milwaukee. Freakin' MILWAUKEE.
Quote from: QB Eagles on August 02, 2008, 11:16:43 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on August 02, 2008, 06:26:05 PM
so theyve beaten one over .500 team since may...actually better than i thought
Baseball's a streaky game, if they catch a hot streak going into the playoffs, there's no reason they couldn't have as much success in the playoffs as Colorado last year.
i love you guys
1.5 clear of the Marlins and alone in first.
Bandwagon's rollin' out again, son. Best hop on while the hoppin's good.
Marlins lose; Mets down 4-0 in the 8th.
Magic number is at 50 8)
Way to jinx it, Ed.
Booooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!
:boo
wait so is this an early august must win game?
this offense is beyond frustrating
besides the utley hr, every hard hit ball happens to be at someone. of course they are not hitting enough balls well, but when they do, tough shtein.
1st & 2nd with one out last inning and nothing. 1st & 2nd with two out in the eighth . . . we'll see.
no such thing as clutch hitting...derrrrrrrr
Burrelly comes through! 2-2 game.
SHANEY!
Clutch, baby!
The Flyin' Hawaiian is smokin'.
NO SUCH THING AS CLUTCH HITTING!
the natural gags
the negroid the cripple and the retard come thru
must be the bad hip
Pies in the face for Shaney!
you probably want to put a comma between negroid and cripple or peeps will get confused
The hell?
Quote from: SunMo on August 03, 2008, 10:26:11 PM
you probably want to put a comma between negroid and cripple or peeps will get confused
ha.....i was just punching myself in the face for that after re reading it....just hideous and an edit in my near future
Good Christ Cholly is a befuddled motherfarger.
LOL @ Howard.
Quote from: Rome on August 03, 2008, 10:34:27 PM
Good Christ Cholly is a befuddled motherfarger.
hes two man tits away from andy reid
Romero needs to go back to being a situational reliever. He can't pitch a whole inning to save his life.
Ugh - this shtein is getting ugly. And now Ryan Madson is coming in to get blasted by Pujols. This inning should be over and they're gonna end up blowing it.
Yay team.
Quote from: Wingspan on August 03, 2008, 10:38:45 PM
Romero needs to go back to being a situational reliever. He can't pitch a whole inning to save his life.
he can go a whole inning...but he cant carry the left handed flame all by himself for the whole bullpen...this is why the front office failed bad in not getting as mahay or some toher left handed bp help
hell farging yeah....huge
Madson got out of it.
Wow.
Franklin made G thang look silly
Awesome effort there, Jimbo.
jimmy has been pathetic this weekend
Ruh roh.
wing got his finger on his keyboard trigger
farging Lidge. Come on, dude. Don't gag it away, you fag.
shtein is about to start getting thrown
Meltdown.
This game is disintegrating before our very eyes.
lidges slider just doesnt have that snap tonight...it was bound to happen....but damn the phillies need this win
One more asshat. Come on. . .
Quote from: ice grillin you on August 03, 2008, 11:03:56 PM
lidges slider just doesnt have that snap tonight...it was bound to happen....but damn the phillies need this win
To be fair, he's had some bad luck tonight - the flair to left, the ball off Howard's glove.
The HR by Glaus was rocked, though. Seemed to throw him off.
Come on Lidge, you bastich!
Game over, motherfargers!
farg YEAH....what a gut job by the closer
whew
GLORY HALLELUJAH!
Lidge found his slider the last two batters. He didn't throw a strike to either one and struck them both the hell out.
NICE!
if gillick didnt nothing else but get lidge he was a decent gm...where would the phils be without him this year
What?
english motherfarger
yeah he's better than Alfonseca
Quote from: Rome on August 03, 2008, 11:08:03 PM
Lidge found his slider the last two batters. He didn't throw a strike to either one and struck them both the hell out.
NICE!
Exactly. Those two youngin's were scared shteinless of that pitch. He reached back and did what he had to do. Way to get out of your own jam, Lidge. He's amazing.
My boy back in PA called to suck Lidges dick. He ripped the trade for months, even after he was like 15-15 saying he sucked and would suck eventually. He finally admitted he was wrong.
Victorino was HUGE.
Choke's defense is ridiculous. Its like he has two farging frying pans on his hands trying to field a ground ball.
Oh, and my boy Myers threw well again.
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on August 03, 2008, 11:37:24 PM
Wingspan called to suck Lidges dick. He ripped the trade for months, even after he was like 15-15 saying he sucked and would suck eventually. He will never admit he was wrong.
:-D
Congrats, you're the first one to do what I figured would be done....edit the post to say Wing. But it's true...although WIng hated on him more than my boy did. He never preached to me about velocity.
By the way...those dooshbag Cards fans did it again.
So comes up with two guys on base with STL protecting a 1-run lead and he gets a standing ovation again.
WTF?
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on August 03, 2008, 11:55:29 PM
By the way...those dooshbag Cards fans did it again.
So comes up with two guys on base with STL protecting a 1-run lead and he gets a standing ovation again.
WTF?
They already knew he wouldn't do anything. They were cheering the end of the inning already. :)
:-D
Good point
They are little league parents and So is the little Chinese boy who is returning home.
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on August 03, 2008, 11:42:18 PM
:-D
Congrats, you're the first one to do what I figured would be done....edit the post to say Wing. But it's true...although WIng hated on him more than my boy did. He never preached to me about velocity.
eh... i said i was wrong about lidge so far weeks ago...try to keep up.
I never "preached" about velocity either. Which, by the way...is not there for him and hasn't been all season. What I did not figure in was that he could use his slider so effectively.
That Glaus homer was sick. The only ball hit harder all night was the foul ball Victorino hit right before he homered.
Quote from: Wingspan on August 04, 2008, 08:10:16 AM
I never "preached" about velocity either. Which, by the way...is not there for him and hasn't been all season.
He's been consistently clocking mid 90's all year. If you want to make a case for his location and movement on his fastball being off you'd probably have a better argument.
Quote from: SD_Eagle on August 04, 2008, 09:46:20 AM
Quote from: Wingspan on August 04, 2008, 08:10:16 AM
I never "preached" about velocity either. Which, by the way...is not there for him and hasn't been all season.
He's been consistently clocking mid 90's all year. If you want to make a case for his location and movement on his fastball being off you'd probably have a better argument.
It's the same thing. In houston he constistantly clocked in the mid to upper 90's. He's lost some velocity...which has affected the movement on his fastball. Losing some velocity is not a criticism. It happens to all power pitchers at some point...
Velocity and movement are two different things, but I don't feel like arguing with you so okay.
In other news, it's convenient that the Phillies are idle tonight, seeing as Lidge threw so many pitches.
Florida and New York are also off tonight. Teen Choice awards, anyone?!?
omgmileycyrus
In a couple of years, she will be added to the list with Britney Spears, the Olsen twins, and Lindsay Lohan: Girls who became immediately boring as hell once they turned 18.
For now, though...
Quote from: BigEd76 on August 04, 2008, 01:09:43 PM
omgmileycyrus
And to keep things on topic, who wants to bet the Phillies gain an all-important 1/2 game tonight on the Braves and/or Nationals?!?
or we could talk about how much jimmy rollins blows
Jimmy Rollins at the plate = Ryan Howard in the field
Quote from: Wingspan on August 04, 2008, 10:00:47 AM
Quote from: SD_Eagle on August 04, 2008, 09:46:20 AM
Quote from: Wingspan on August 04, 2008, 08:10:16 AM
I never "preached" about velocity either. Which, by the way...is not there for him and hasn't been all season.
He's been consistently clocking mid 90's all year. If you want to make a case for his location and movement on his fastball being off you'd probably have a better argument.
It's the same thing. In houston he constistantly clocked in the mid to upper 90's. He's lost some velocity...which has affected the movement on his fastball. Losing some velocity is not a criticism. It happens to all power pitchers at some point...
Losing velocity does not effect the movement on your fastball.
Quote from: FastFreddie on August 04, 2008, 01:12:42 PM
In a couple of years, she will be added to the list with Britney Spears, the Olsen twins, and Lindsay Lohan: Girls who became immediately boring as hell once they turned 18.
For now, though...
Quote from: BigEd76 on August 04, 2008, 01:09:43 PM
omgmileycyrus
And to keep things on topic, who wants to bet the Phillies gain an all-important 1/2 game tonight on the Braves and/or Nationals?!?
yeah, but Lohan turned out to be gay....isnt' that all newsworthy for you guys and stuff? lol
A hot chick? Yes.
Lohan is far from hot. I'd rather pick up a hooker.
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on August 04, 2008, 06:24:44 PM
A hot chick? Yes.
Lohan is far from hot. I'd rather pick up a hooker.
And what's worse, Samantha Ronson looks like Eric Bruntlett before the beard:
(http://popdish.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/07/samantharonson.jpg)
Oh, and Lindsay and Samantha are apparently engaged.
http://www.thefightins.com/meechone/sal-fasano-sure-knew-how-to-throw-runners-out/
God I miss Sal Fasano.
It looks like Moyer's going to lose to the Marlins. Ruh roh.
Ryan Howard's defense is goddamn farging ridiculous.
Holy farging hell...FIELD YOUR POSITION.
Thank god the Marlins are stupid iceholes. They are being given a shtein load of runners by Moyer and its only 2-0. They should be lucky that it isn't 7-0 now.
something wrong, sport?
Who in the hell is Les Walrond?
Quote from: Geowhizzer on August 05, 2008, 09:17:25 PM
Who in the hell is Les Walrond?
He had a complete game SO with 17 Ks for the Iron Pigs in July
And he comes in and walks guys.
And then Greg farging Dobbs is playing on the goddamn grass or close to it with Amezaga up and the bases loaded with 2 outs. A fister gets over his head. He would have caught it if he was playing back like he is supposed to.
And then Wheels defends him playing in saying how Amezaga could bunt there. HELLO WHEELS! TWO OUTS AND THE BASES LOADED.
And now that shteinbag Ruiz gets a hit. Soooooooooooo Taguchi coming up.
I hate this team.
Settle down, Louise.
4-3 twin killing
3rd DP of the night
Shouldn't you be drunk by now?
Quote from: Rome on August 05, 2008, 09:34:29 PM
Settle down, Louise.
:-D
I hate watching this team some times. Really.
From Howard's butchery to Dobbs not know WTF to striking out, walking guys...jesus. farg the bums.
You hate the phillies and they are in first place and love the Eagles and they were in last place.
I r confused.
phreak, who do you think puts dobbs halfway there...certainly not himself
someone please explain to me why ruiz was in such a rush to get to third base in a 4-0 game
Victorino power surge.
Looks like its foul
they're going to reverse this
wow, that's a break
there's one for the instant replay crowd
Quote from: Rome on August 05, 2008, 09:35:34 PM
Shouldn't you be drunk by now?
I drink to battle depression and marathon threads
I drink to battle power-tripping douchebags on message boards.
I win.
Howard battles depression 200x a season
Quote from: ice grillin you on August 05, 2008, 09:40:53 PM
someone please explain to me why ruiz was in such a rush to get to third base in a 4-0 game
Because he's an idiot.
Quote from: SunMo on August 05, 2008, 09:42:38 PM
wow, that's a break
there's one for the instant replay crowd
Tommy Hutton is still going on about it on the Marlins broadcast.
Great, now it's 5-2. And for some salt in the wound the Mets are up 6-5.
wow manuel is just out of his mind terrible tonight. not that the offense is making a difference, but hes just brutal.
Managers don't make any difference in the outcome of games.[/mcgrawbeane]
I pitched for the Reading Phillies tonight. In 3 1/3 innings I gave up 2 long balls, 4 hits, and 6 total earned runs.
Who am I?
Dave Duncan?
Quote from: Rome on August 05, 2008, 09:57:40 PM
Managers don't make any difference in the outcome of games.[/mcgrawbeane]
They usually don't have much impact on the season unless they are uncomprehensibly terrible.
do you think for yourself or just listen to what bill james tells you and then act like you're smarter than everyone else and refuse to converse with others who dont swear on the holy baseball prospectus bible of sabermetrical nerd stats even though in reality you just some silly high school student?
phillies got beat pretty good tonight...i thought after the umps gave that HR to Victorino they would rally, but boy was i wrong..lol...hopefully they can take the next 2 and win the series..
Quote from: SunMo on August 05, 2008, 09:39:47 PM
phreak, who do you think puts dobbs halfway there...certainly not himself
He could position himself.
But Jimmy Williams and/or Steve Smith are the guys who set the INF and OF.
Quote from: MDS on August 05, 2008, 10:43:41 PM
do you think for yourself or just listen to what bill james tells you and then act like you're smarter than everyone else and refuse to converse with others who dont swear on the holy baseball prospectus bible of sabermetrical nerd stats even though in reality you just some silly high school student?
I so silly!
Quote from: SD_Eagle on August 05, 2008, 10:04:32 PM
I pitched for the Reading Phillies tonight. In 3 1/3 innings I gave up 2 long balls, 4 hits, and 6 total earned runs.
Who am I?
(http://www.readingphillies.com/trout/0805_eaton.jpg)
Worst unis ever.
hes owed 8.5 mil next year. and thats 8.5 mil less for the phils to spend because remember theyre a small market team.
Go easy on Eaton. He pitched against some really solid prospects last night!
nm
Quote from: MDS on August 06, 2008, 12:19:30 PM
hes owed 8.5 mil next year. and thats 8.5 mil less for the phils to spend because remember this is what Pat Gillick saw as a good pitching aquisition.
every big market team makes big money mistakes the problem is when it happens to the phils it hurts them far more than any of the others
what they should do is either buy out the contract are just eat the 8.5 mil and pretend its not there. they basically need to act as if that 8.5 mil is not on the payroll and still spend what they were going to spend.
but ownership will not do that. they simply care about making a profit and winning championship is something they are not really that interested in doing.
Quote from: ice grillin you on August 06, 2008, 12:31:18 PM
every big market team makes big money mistakes the problem is when it happens to the phils it hurts them far more than any of the others
If i had posted this sentence in the eagles section about a big money bust you would fly off the handle with your rolodex of names you like to call people.
lololol
Quote from: Wingspan on August 06, 2008, 12:38:04 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on August 06, 2008, 12:31:18 PM
every big market team makes big money mistakes the problem is when it happens to the phils it hurts them far more than any of the others
If i had posted this sentence in the eagles section about a big money bust you would fly off the handle with your rolodex of names you like to call people.
lololol
Um, I think IGY's whole point was that the ownership ALLOWS it to hurt them, much like the Eagles. Both teams are out to maximize profit.
I see how that can be read either way.
i didnt even come close to making a comment on the move itself much less defend it....im simply saying because of their ownership the phillies margin of error on failed moves like eaton is zero
Punctuation, learn it, live it, love it.
Kendrick throwing a beaut tonight.
Cervanek or whatever just drove one in...5-0.
Yeah, so the Phils are still scouting Freddie Garcia.
And they have interest in Scott Eyre, he of a 7.15 ERA and a DFA by the Cubs.
And Flash left his game tonight with an arm injury.
home shutout :yay
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on August 06, 2008, 09:11:56 PM
Yeah, so the Phils are still scouting Freddie Garcia.
Ken Rosenthal was on DNL earlier and said Garcia pitched poorly and was out of shape during his showing.
It's all good though, Gavin Floyd is only 11-3 with a 3.68 ERA. Yay Pat.
Gio lost his major league debut in Toronto tonight
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i honestly think i care more about how sd does in his fantasy star wars league than gavin floyd does with the chisox. just stop talking about him, it could not mean less.
I really don't think Floyd would have made it here. He was one of those guys who needed a change. Was it pressure to live up to the #1 pick status or was it because the Phils minor league instructors farged him up? Who knows.
Gio gave up a 3R bomb to Barajas.
Hamels pitches in a day game tomorrow after two horrid starts. Wanna step it up soon, Colbert?
he will or this team aint for real. not like anyone thinks it is anyway, but ultra not for real.
and to clarify for sober people.. he'll pitch a good game because he's farging suppossed too.. or hang it up...
Quote from: MDS on August 06, 2008, 11:17:28 PM
i honestly think i care more about how sd does in his fantasy star wars league than gavin floyd does with the chisox. just stop talking about him, it could not mean less.
Just for that I'll post an update after every time he pitches
QuoteWrestler Kurt Angle, a 1996 Olympic gold medalist, will throw out the first pitch today. He is in town for a wrestling show Sunday at the Sovereign Bank Arena in Trenton.
Sweet. Maybe he'll be able to share some 'roids with the team.
Quote from: SD_Eagle on August 07, 2008, 06:27:58 AM
Quote from: MDS on August 06, 2008, 11:17:28 PM
i honestly think i care more about how sd does in his fantasy star wars league than gavin floyd does with the chisox. just stop talking about him, it could not mean less.
Just for that I'll post an update after every time he pitches
can i have a scott rolen update too?
i just caught the end of it but it sounds like there is a rumor floating around that hamels was late to the park today
stop the presses.
Quote from: ice grillin you on August 07, 2008, 12:44:39 PM
i just caught the end of it but it sounds like there is a rumor floating around that hamels was late to the park today
maybe he'll think it's a night game now?
supposedly he was seen driving in after noon so it was PM
If Rollins is on time, make him pitch FTW
well hes pitching and gave up an rbi single to the 8 hitter with 2 outs.
kendrick may be the #1 starter before the years out...i thought hed be in the minor leagues by now
If Lohse were here, he'd be the #1.
P.S. The Phillies offense rulez.
if not for the bogus hr call the phils would have 5 runs total in this series and been shut out twice by chris farging volstad and a guy just back from tj surgery
les waldron era is over phils traded for scott eyre
can he hit?
he can barely pitch
and Tampa gets Chad Bradford
how much of a joke are you when the farging devil rays are out manuerving your franchise
i suppose less of a joke than the marlins having more world series
and why would the cubs, who haven't won a WS in 10000 years, be trading anyone of value down the stretch?
shtein if you wanna get down to it might as well say iowa (aaa) traded him since the cubs tried to send him down he was so friggin bad...so for all intents and purposes the phillies traded for a minor leaguer
la just gave the number
2 for 26 w/ risp this series
sickening
shutout six times at HOME this year
the Marlins and Mets play each other this weekend while the Phils get the Pirates. Gotta sweep...
just awful. manuel not starting dobbs was beyond stupid, but the bottom line is 1-5 make the team go and they are brutal right now.
Quote from: BigEd76 on August 07, 2008, 04:08:51 PM
the Marlins and Mets play each other this weekend while the Phils get the Pirates. Gotta sweep...
Prepare to be disappointed.
Quote from: ice grillin you on August 07, 2008, 04:04:47 PM
la just gave the number
2 for 26 w/ risp this series
sickening
shutout six times at HOME this year
:puke
Most overrated offense ever?
When is the last time Hamels won a game?
They cannot beat the Marlins or Mets. Charlie had a quote the other day about the importance of the games and then the offense comes out and throws 0's up.
Hoydas
really they cant beat anyone but atl and wash
nine out of their 22 against fla and the mets
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on August 07, 2008, 04:21:09 PM
Most overrated offense ever?
Pitching has carried this team for the last 2 months. Sad.
Change the thread title to "LOL @ someoneactuallyontheteam"?
how about lol at cole hamels run support
or lol at still in first place
LOL at how much I farging hate this team.
But yet still watch.
ANd still believe they will make the playoffs.
WHY?!
lol @ the amount of money Phreak's going to lose to IGY
i wish but the most he can lose is 10...no way i win the .500 or worse bet
Hope springs eternal.
Quote from: ice grillin you on August 07, 2008, 09:00:24 PM
i wish but the most he can lose is 10...no way i win the .500 or worse bet
If they go 19-29 the rest of the way, they finish .500. That's doable for this team. Of course, so is 29-19.
so evidentially ja happ is gonna be sent down to make room for this erye joker.
1. myers and eaton blow chunks for the first 3 months of the season
2. happ gets called up and pitches well for 2 games after myers is sent down
3. they finally have enough of eaton
4. they trade one of the top 50 prospects in baseball for a fatass average starting pitching who is fat
5. myers gets his job back
6. happ is back in aaa despite manuel stating he should get another start
7. eaton sucks ass in the bullpen too
8. happ, despite never being a relief pitcher, is called up to the bullpen
9. he isnt used for over a week
10. hes put in a 2 run game against florida and predictably gets hit around
11. hes send back down so a 39 year old cast off can have a job
farg THIS TEAM
they way they have dogged happ is pathetic but par for the course for this franchise
which would you rather have in the next five years:
a) two philly teams make their league finals and have two chances to win a championship
b) current phillies ownership sell the team
who is the top 50 prospect they gave up for blanton?
a) is worthless, unless you are leaving it open-ended as to whether or not they ACTUALLY win
I would love for the Phillies to sell the team to a ridiculously rich icehole, though. Tough, tough call.
Quote from: FastFreddie on August 08, 2008, 08:39:36 AM
a) is worthless, unless you are leaving it open-ended as to whether or not they ACTUALLY win.
either you got el ninoed last night or reading isnt your strong suit
the transformation of Jimmy Rollins from MVP hero to town moron continues...
Radano:
QuoteFifty-nine games later, the Phillies remain in first. Any chances of running away with the division have gone by the wayside, however, because the offense has wasted more than one solid effort from a maligned starting rotation.
During that time, the Phillies have played to the tune of three games below .500.
"You say that like it's a bad thing," shortstop Jimmy Rollins said after Thursday's 3-0 loss to second-place Florida. "I'd rather be ahead than behind. I don't think anybody in here expects to pull away -- we just expect to win."
Amazing....did someone steal his brain in the offseason?
And why isn't Les Walrond getting sent down?
The JA Happ hog smoke fest is getting a little ridiculous though. You'd think he was Francisco Liriano if you listened to some people.
It's JA Happ. He got lit the other night. He walks a lot of guys.
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on August 08, 2008, 09:19:04 AM
It's JA Happ. He got lit the other night. He walks a lot of guys.
he hadn't pitched in 2 weeks dude...and then gets thrown into a relief appearance when he's a starter? they totally jerked him around.
phreak it has nothing to do with how good or bad of a pitcher happ is...you dont do to him what they have done
Now I agree with that. They jerked him off. That is par for the FO's course.
But...reading the Phils MB you'd think he was a savior or something. I like the dude and I think he'll be good. But some gotta slow the roll...
reason number 378 to not read baseball message boards
Quote from: ice grillin you on August 08, 2008, 08:03:05 AMcurrent phillies ownership sell the team
pretty much the best news that could ever happen ever in the history of the world ever
cardenas was listed as one of the top 50 prospects in baseball from what i read. hes blocked by utley here, and they definitely could have gotten something more for him than some fat guy.
More to make you angry...
Sabathia: 5-0, 1.88 since being traded to the Brewers
On the plus side, the Phils have won all three games Blanton has pitched. Personally, Blanton is 1-0 with a 4.80 ERA with the Phils.
Will Cole Hamels win another game? Ever?
Probably not. Eskin says he doesn't have an elbow anymore.
funny, i don't hear WIP using that breaking news report in their sweepers for Howard...
So who's ready for Pittsburgh to run up in their asses this weekend?
If this team has any balls at all they'll sweep this with ease.
Graphic just said Utley is batting .246 with RISP. Less than .200 since June 1.
this guy kills left handed hitters and Charlie puts out the normal lineup with Utely and Howard back to back
chase utely is PATHETIC
ace of hearts lol
youve been MAHOLMED!!
i hate you
has a team in 1st place on aug 8 ever had a worse 7-8-9 than coste-bruntlett-fat guy?
Chris Coste sucks...icehole
Quote from: MDS on August 08, 2008, 09:20:59 PM
has a team in 1st place on aug 8 ever had a worse 7-8-9 than coste-bruntlett-fat guy?
Have
you ever hit in the 8-hole, sweetums?
hes a terrible pinch hitter and borderline decent backup catcher.
but in reality the 8 hitter shouldnt even matter. 1-5 in the lineup have been weaker than havas' bank account statements.
jesus chase utley you are A FAG
3-1 count and howard swings at 2 balls...what a farging stiff
Utley and Choke Dawg... GOOD TIMES
utley out silence
choke out boos
Quote from: ice grillin you on August 08, 2008, 09:47:26 PM
utley out silence
choke out boos
Howard needs to give the crowd a farg you
Burell is a fleshpop tease
harry a step away from the graveyard > anyone else
no
you wanna honor a legend who is pathetic now by not saying anything bad about him then go ahead
i understand that
and respect it
but hes not even top ten announcers in baseball
and having the package i hear them all
Harry is the greatest baseball announcer in MLB history. Top 10 all time voices ever in professional sports. Recognize.
As brutal as they've been Coste has probably been the worst
lol at Bruntlett
im talking about right NOW
hes terrible and to say otherwise is to be on his nuts...which like i said everyone should be...hes a legend
id rather have him at 3b than beardface. god what a scrub.
He can announce till he's in Dick Clark condition for all I care
ive never liked this team from the start three years ago but now they are slowly turning into one of my least favorite philly teams ever
they now have 5 runs in the last 36 innings in homer central
against
some guy named vulcan
two guys fresh off long stints on the dl including one of them two starts back from tj surgery
a pittsburgh pirate
Quote from: SD_Eagle on August 08, 2008, 10:11:31 PM
He can announce till he's in Dick Clark condition for all I care
no doubt
i dont want him gone
hes earned the right to stay as long as he wants
but he just isnt good anymore
Quote from: ice grillin you on August 08, 2008, 10:14:35 PM
ive never liked this team from the start three years ago but now they are slowly turning into one of my least favorite philly teams ever
Last years team will go down as one of my all time favorite Phils team, but that probably has more to do with the Mets collapse
Quote from: SD_Eagle on August 08, 2008, 10:19:49 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on August 08, 2008, 10:14:35 PM
ive never liked this team from the start three years ago but now they are slowly turning into one of my least favorite philly teams ever
Last years team will go down as one of my all time favorite Phils team, but that probably has more to do with the Mets collapse
exactly...they would never be even close to my favorite just because there isnt likeable guys on the team....but had they followed up last year with something special this year i would have definitely come around on them...but as awesome as last year was and it basically was like a psedo championship it had nothing to do with them and everything to do with the mets...and the proof is that the year before last and the year after last they played exactly the same way they always have...they have never gotten better over the four years...its groundhog day
Lidge is farging brutal in non save situations
Back to back IW to Utley and Howard to load em up and go righty/righty with Burrell up. I'm thinking Burrell draws a walk for the W here
nice butt jutt you farging cokehead
Burrell pops up
Top 11th
They showed some nice cleavage shots when they showed the crowd
Losing is as losing does.
victorino has surpassed not just being the dumbest baseball player alive but has moved on to the list of dumbest people alive
I don't even know what to say.
PITTSBURGH FARGING PIRATES!
ZERO RUNS!
I hate hate hate hate hate hate this team.
longest home shutout by innings since 1956. nice.
just saw the highlights on the local news. victorino you stupid, stupid person. :boom dumb hawaiian.
This team really is not good. I got a chuckle watching Baseball Tonight last night, as they're apparently 4th in the most recent power rankings.
Blanton pitches his ass off and they still lose.
Oh, well. It's not like they could have done anything to improve the team before the deadline anyway, right Stand Pat?
The offense is hilariously bad right now, it's like they blew their load in the first half of the season. Statistically they have to be in the bottom 10 of the league in runs scored over the past 2 months.
pedro phillies is gonna start rehabing. its actually sad that its a good thing that hes close to coming back.
I'm still salty as farg about how overrated this offense is. And how much they seem to NOT care about it.
The only one who seems to give two shteins is Pat Burrell.
Jimmy Rollins is aloof.
Shane Victorino is dumb
Chase Utley is slacking
Ryan Howard is the king of the stupid who farted look when he strikes out, like every call was so bad he just cant believe it
Werth has been exposed
Jenkins should be offed
Bruntlett is useless
Ruiz gets a hit every two months
Coste is horrible
Dobbs is a poor defender who shteins the bed unless he's a PH
HATE
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on August 09, 2008, 01:43:24 PM
I'm still salty as farg about how overrated this offense is.
They are only overrated by people who overestimated their ability from the beginning. Anyone who objectively follows this team has known for 3 years it's a sink or swim offense with no consistancy. They have lacked a speed guy who will hit .310-.330 every season and have made no attempt to get one, with Stand Pat being happy with situational role players and forcing them to be everyday guys and his inherited sluggers.
They have better pitching this season, so they will win the division despite their flawed lineup but then get eaten alive by the cubs in the divisional round.
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on August 09, 2008, 01:43:24 PM
The only one who seems to give two shteins is Pat Burrell.
The fact this is true or even close to it means this team is superfarged.
Victorino clearly gives a damn too. It's too bad his talent level doesn't come close to his attitude and work ethic.
Hey, the Phils have plenty of guys with talent. They usually choke on it, but at least they have some.
Quote from: Wingspan on August 09, 2008, 01:58:51 PM
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on August 09, 2008, 01:43:24 PM
I'm still salty as farg about how overrated this offense is.
They are only overrated by people who overestimated their ability from the beginning. Anyone who objectively follows this team has known for 3 years it's a sink or swim offense with no consistancy. They have lacked a speed guy who will hit .310-.330 every season and have made no attempt to get one, with Stand Pat being happy with situational role players and forcing them to be everyday guys and his inherited sluggers.
They have better pitching this season, so they will win the division despite their flawed lineup but then get eaten alive by the cubs in the divisional round.
They don't need a speed guy.
Do you know anything about baseball? What they need is a guy who can hit righties in rightfield, a third baseman who doesn't make a cagillion outs and a catcher that isn't having one of the worst seasons in the history of baseball.
Speed is about 100th on the list of important things in baseball.
That's why Burrell is so good.
Hey, where does "getting a hit in the bottom of the 11th with the bases loaded" rank on your list?
idk I mean he has gotten a hit in situations like that a ridiculous % of the time this year he was bound to make an out at some point.
Myers pitched great.
Charlie goes out to get him and I guess Brett didn't like it.
I flipped channels and when I came back the Pit feed had images of Myers and Charlie going at it pretty damn good in the dugout. Then it went down into the tunnel where both Manuel and Myers were in each others faces.
Rollins is having himself a night. Utley? Yuck.
Rollins looks good tonight for the first time in awhile.
Utley got booed after K'ing with the bases loaded.
Myers said to Charlie "It's my farging goddamn game" when Charlie went out to the mound.
BUMS WIN!
(Why was Durbin out there instead of Lidge in the 9th?)
P.S. Myers only threw 93 pitches. No wonder he was pissed. His wife should hide out at a friend's tonight.
Quote from: FastFreddie on August 09, 2008, 09:43:41 PM
(Why was Durbin out there instead of Lidge in the 9th?)
3 run lead, 25 pitched the night before, and a day game tomorrow is my guess. Although he was warming up once Durbin gave up the run.
Quote from: mpmcgraw on August 09, 2008, 06:55:18 PM
What they need is a guy who can hit righties in rightfield,
They get shut down against even mediocre lefties...and you want another lefty in the lineup?
Not another lefty just a better lefty than Jenkins.
Quote from: Wingspan on August 09, 2008, 10:59:15 PM
Quote from: FastFreddie on August 09, 2008, 09:43:41 PM
(Why was Durbin out there instead of Lidge in the 9th?)
3 run lead, 25 pitched the night before, and a day game tomorrow is my guess. Although he was warming up once Durbin gave up the run.
Charlie said after the game that he had some shoulder stiffness but is ok.
Judging the trustworthiness of the Phillies medical staff....Lidge's shoulder is likely to explode soon.
QuotePHILADELPHIA (AP) -- Brett Myers got his stuff and his snarl back.
Myers pitched 7 2/3 sharp innings, Jimmy Rollins had four hits, and the Philadelphia Phillies beat the Pittsburgh Pirates 4-2 on Saturday night.
Myers (5-9) allowed one run and five hits, striking out six. The feisty right-hander wasn't pleased to leave with a runner on second and two outs in the eighth.
Myers muttered a few expletives when Phillies manager Charlie Manuel went to the mound. Manuel went after Myers in the dugout and the two briefly exchanged words nose-to-nose.
"I wanted to stay in," Myers said. "I'm a competitor. That's what I do. Sometimes your emotions get the best of you and you do something irrational. I should've respected his decision. It's patched up. We're buddies."
Manuel said he prefers a pitcher who doesn't want to exit a game.
"It was two strong-willed people kind of disagreeing," Manuel said. "Everything is all right. He wanted to stay in. I like that. In fact, if he doesn't want to stay in, I'd be mad."
J.C. Romero retired Doug Mientkiewicz for the final out after Myers departed. Chad Durbin finished for his first save after allowing a run in the ninth. Brad Lidge, who is 28-for-28 in save chances, was unavailable after throwing 24 pitches in one-third of an inning Friday.
The NL East-leading Phillies remained one game ahead of the New York Mets and are 2½ up on Florida.
Rollins, the reigning NL MVP, sparked a struggling offense that was shut out in consecutive games for the first time in nine years. He finished 4-for-4 with two triples in his four-hit game since last Sept. 1.
The Phillies snapped a 23-inning scoreless streak before making an out against Ian Snell (4-9).
Rollins led off with a line-drive triple down the right-field line and Shane Victorino followed with a double off the scoreboard in right. Ryan Howard's one-out RBI single made it 2-0.
The Pirates sliced the lead in half in the fourth on Nate McLouth's RBI double.
Rollins tripled off the wall in right leading off the seventh and scored on Victorino's single through a drawn-in infield for a 3-1 lead.
"We have to set the table for the bug guys," Rollins said of himself and Victorino.
Jayson Werth led off Philadelphia's eighth with a triple off Romulo Sanchez and scored on Greg Dobbs' single to make it 4-1.
Brandon Moss' RBI single in the ninth capped the scoring.
Snell allowed three runs and eight hits in six innings. It was just his eighth quality start in 23 games.
"He struggled in the first inning then he settled in and threw the ball well," Pirates manager John Russell said.
A short trip to the minors has made a difference for Myers, the team's Opening Day starter who was demoted on July 1 after going 3-9 with a 5.84 ERA in his first 17 starts. He's 2-0 with a 2.10 ERA in four starts since returning to the majors.
"Last two games he's been top-notch," Manuel said. "I'd say his stuff is back. He's got a different look about it."
In his four games since being re-called Myers is 2-0 with a 2.10ERA
The hick from Japan has lost this team, period. He has a piece of shtein wife beater screaming at him on the field, then in the dugout, and then again in the tunnel to the clubhouse and he's expected to retain some semblance of control over this bunch?
Please.
Fire that hillbilly and send everyone with him except Davy Lopes. At least he's working for a living down there.
I don't think he's lost it. Myers and him are always next to each other talking and laughing in the dugout. Tonight was nothing bad, IMO. I liked that this team, or at least someone, showed some fire tonight. Because that is exactly what they are lacking.
All too often we've seen them be lackadaisical and ho-hum.
we were mocking brett because of his obnoxious crowd acknowledgment when he got taken out. i guess that was sarcastic due to his unhappiness of being taken out...what a douche
utley sucks and it was fun to yell at him with his jersey on my back
todd is a douche
i got stuck in construction traffic coming home 55 mintues to go 3 miles...farging awful.
the bar made up for it though
Quote from: SunMo on August 10, 2008, 04:02:45 AM
utley sucks and it was fun to yell at him with his jersey on my back
Best post ever?
wow, i really munsoned it up this morning
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man i was so drunk
also manuel gave burrell the day off against this scrub rhp and neglected to start dobbsy. werth, who is just a monster against righties, is in lf and farging eric bruntlett is at 3b. god he is just a stupid person.
QuoteJust heard from Charlie Manuel that, for a second consecutive game, closer Brad Lidge is not available to pitch today because of tightness in his throwing shoulder. But Manuel and Lidge insist it's nothing to worry about, and Lidge said he's hoping to be ready tomorrow night in LA.
Some background: Lidge warmed up six times before finally pitching in the All-Star Game on July 15 at Yankee Stadium. Manuel said "he's just now getting his strength back" after that experience, but Lidge said his shoulder began feeling "sluggish" before the All-Star Game. Lidge believes his shoulder troubles have stemmed from some faulty mechanics that were discovered last week by pitching coach Rich Dubee. Since the All-Star break, Lidge has made 11 appearances. And although he's 8-for-8 in save opportunities, most of them haven't been easy. He has has walked seven batters in 7-1/3 innings and put runners on base in eight of the 11 games. Of the last 209 pitches Lidge has thrown, only 122 have been strikes.
Lidge, who has been taking anti-inflammatory medication and seen team physician Dr. Michael Ciccotti but has not undergone at MRI exam, said he played catch this morning with Dubee and feels considerably better.
Clearly, though, this is a situation worth monitoring. To me, Lidge and ace Cole Hamels are the two players the Phillies can least afford to lose to injury.
so, Lidge has had a balky shoulder since the all-star break yet charlie uses him on Thursday in the 9th when they are down by 3
LaRussa wouldn't have done that.
And he's been noticeably off since the break too.
I hope Clint Hurdle dies.
Charlie using him was not smart either. He should be kept on ice.
ANyways....delay to start the game.
The Pirates have a makeup tomorrow in NYC at 1 but the PHils and Pirates share no off days the rest of the year. So my guess is they will squeeze this one in,
Anyone good pitching today?
how the Phils tied the game at 1-1:
Ruiz walked (no really)
Moyer sac bunt, pitcher throws the ball into RF
Moyer rounds 1st and knocks the crew chief ump on his ass as he runs to 2nd :-D
Jason Michaels throws to 2nd and the ball goes into LF
Ruiz scores, Moyer goes to 3rd
Rollins follows it up with the slowest sac fly ever....Moyer jogging home and doesn't bother to slide as the catcher goes for the tag
2-1 Phils
the play wasnt near close enough for moyer to even think about sliding...i liked how he ran past home plate didnt slow up at all and went straight into the dugout and sat down
hes like 45 years old, he aint sliding.
also nice that the only way the phillies can score runs today is with the pirates literally handing it to them.
man does chase hustle down the line
Quote from: MDS on August 10, 2008, 04:42:22 PM
hes like 45 years old, he aint sliding.
also nice that the only way the phillies can score runs today is with the pirates literally handing it to them.
They tried to in the 5th, but the Phils wouldn't take them this time.
choke is a fielding abortion
Quote from: ice grillin you on August 10, 2008, 04:45:39 PM
man does chase hustle down the line
Its nice to see, but I would rather see him hustle to 2B after he actually got a hit with runners in farging scoring position. Or how about a sac fly?!?
Utley's RISP hitting is about as bad as Choke's fielding.
Bahhhhhhhhhhrutal.
And Pat Burrell's girlfriend comes through with a hit to take the lead...
Par for the course...Phils choke on a fleshpop with the bases loaded and the next inning they give up the lead.
farging iceholes.
jesus they are about to lose a home series to the friggin pirates
Quote from: MDS on August 10, 2008, 04:59:55 PM
jesus they are about to lose a home series to the friggin pirates
And that surprises you because...
it doesnt. its merely a "we've hit a new low" observation
is it possible to be worse than eric bruntlett?
Quote from: MDS on August 10, 2008, 05:12:28 PM
is it possible to be worse than eric bruntlett?
geoff jenkins?
he at least is entertaining in the field diving unnecessarily for balls. but otherwise, yea.
my god is wheels sickening
is this in reference to his jerking off scott eyre
About time, Utley.
After Rollins and Victorino laid eggs.
Quote from: MDS on August 10, 2008, 05:36:55 PM
is this in reference to his jerking off scott eyre
no the two minute diatribe he went into after dobbs hit...it was amazing
he thought it was the funniest thing ever that dobbs hit it down the left field line
he literally makes me root against the phillies...id rather them lose than him be happy
i dont think victorino has ever hit a sac fly in his life. he is just a beyond stupid baseball player.
nice to see utley do something.
the 6th inning with wheels and t-mac is basically unbearable. wheeler is just off the charts a front office kiss ass and t-mac hates the phillies. it doesnt mesh like the wheels/sarge middle innings pairing did. those two were comic gold.
Sensational play by Rollins to end the inning.
Just excellent.
Quote from: Rome on August 10, 2008, 05:49:19 PM
Sensational play by Rollins to end the inning.
Just excellent.
simply superb
wheeler knows larry bowa. they are buddies.
ohmigodimsojealous
he just said the dodgers have "a lot of very good young hitters"
they are 25th in the majors in runs scored
their offense sucks ass...thats why they traded for manny dumb farg
The Pirates pitcher is not good.
god i want to shoot wheeler.
what a cock that umpire is
Madson in to close the game. Fun.
how is this team 11 games over .500 and 2 up in the division
Is the game over? Gamecast sucks.
Quote from: MDS on August 10, 2008, 06:12:34 PM
how is this team 11 games over .500 and 2 up in the division
Luck.
At least today they were extremely lucky to win this game. If it weren't for the Pirates looking like a team of amputees in the field, they get whupped.
we focus so much on the phillies that we overlook how bad the mets and marlins are...spend a week on their message boards and id imagine it looks a lot like this thread
The Marlins don't have fans and both Mets fans already post here.
e-a-g-l-e-s mets mets mets
Should be a fun week. The Phils have 7 out west (Sunday night is on ESPN btw) while the Mets get the Pirates and Nationals
the nationals have been dominated by a superior milwaukee team this weekend but in general they are playing much improved ball since cutting all their dead weight....i say they take two of three from the garbage ass mets
Marlins get the Cubs and Cards.
Legit shot they lose all 7.
the dodgers are horrible outside of that moron hitting 4th. plus the padres are the worst team in baseball, worse than the senators. 2-5 predicition.
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on August 10, 2008, 06:53:43 PM
Marlins get the Cubs and Cards.
Legit shot they lose all 7.
lol
the Marlins own the Cubs
that being said, it'll be Zambrano/Dempster/Harden in that series
ill put money on no team in the majors losing seven in a row for the rest of the season...much less a team over .500
Wishful thinking...I'm trying to make myself feel better about the abortion of a favorite team we have
Was at the game today, igy you'll be glad to hear Utley was boo'd when he grounded into the bases loaded DP. And again when he missed that ball up the middle. Maybe the boo's worked.
Bruntlett sucks
I hate umbrellas and people who use them when there's a slight drizzle. Grow some balls.
http://www.philly.com/philly/sports/20080811_Bill_Conlin__Charlie_s_latest_challenge__Bratt_at_his_worst.html
Conlin on "Bratt" Myers.
jabba is gawd
Quote from: SD_Eagle on August 10, 2008, 09:53:52 PM
Was at the game today, igy you'll be glad to hear Utley was boo'd when he grounded into the bases loaded DP. And again when he missed that ball up the middle. Maybe the boo's worked.
Bruntlett sucks
I hate umbrellas and people who use them when there's a slight drizzle. Grow some balls.
actually he was booed sat night....finally....only took three months
Kendrick got bombed. Location was off big time. A 6-spot in the 3rd.
SP has been so good lately, but it would not last forever. The only thing lasting forever is the goddamn piece of shtein offense standing around with their thumbs jammed up their asses.
Barring a miracle this team has failed AGAIN to take advantage of losses by FLA and NY.
lol @ the sight of les waldron batting
OMG its 7-2 now!
farging bums.
2nd and 3rd 0 outs...1 run scores.
1st and 2nd 0 outs a few innings ago...1 run scores
7-4...
chipping away.
I was at that game tonite. Manny is unreal.
Phillies suck.
Chase is scary.
Dodgers bullpen sucks! :boom
Amazing stat from the ESPN.com recap:
QuoteHoward was the first major leaguer in 60 years to lead his league in homers and RBIs at the All-Star break and not make the All-Star team.
Vote Pat Burrell.
Quote from: hbionic on August 12, 2008, 02:42:38 AM
I was at that game tonite.
did you get there in the 7th inning with everyone else?
Got there in the 7th and left after Manny's double in the 8th.
Colbert pitches tonight. How about throwing like an ace?
Quote from: hbionic on August 12, 2008, 02:42:38 AMManny is unreal.
You talking about the top of the 9th where he delayed the game to take a piss?
It's not like people in LA even know what baseball is. They see a goofy Hispanic with dreadlocks whose on ESPN a lot hit it far and he's a god.
Quote from: MDS on August 12, 2008, 12:07:04 PM
It's not like people in LA even know what baseball is. They see a goofy Hispanic with dreadlocks whose on ESPN a lot hit it far and he's a god.
This.
Anyone else sick of the phrase, "It's just Manny being Manny!"??
That...and anything Joe Buck. That guy's a douche.
mother farger :boom
And here it comes...
Once again the offense has been putrid.
farg heads.
Gary Sheffield is one waivers and wants to play every day. Wooooo
GET SHEFF.
Not.
Victorino pulled for a stiff lower back.
Soooooooo gets some PT now.
1-run game.
Burrell out again (even though he made the last out in the 8th)...
Durbin pitching...single and a walk. Manny up with 2 on and 0 outs.
Hold me, MDS.
Goddammit. Manny gets beaned.
Bases loaded...0 outs.
They're going to lose. farging piece of shtein bums.
Well to put a positive spin on it the wheels had to come off the Chad Durbin train at some point.
He did get a huge DP though. Too bad it was his own mess he had to get out of.
3-3 going to the bottom of the 9th.
Geoff Favre and his goddamn fly outs.
Burrell out of the game AGAIN pisses me off. Especially with Vic out.
Werth-So-Jenkins is the OF
sure glad Burrell's arm wasn't in left to through out Martin
Charlie is a farging butcher once again
It wouldn't have even mattered but taking him out is and always will be dumb unless its a 10-4 game.
Romero beaning the dude killed them.
And the bats going quiet...or staying quiet I should say...AGAIN
I hate this farging team.
what do you mean it wouldn't have mattered? who has a better arm? So or Burrell?
not even close
My point is even if he gets hosed...they go to the 10th and fail to score. Then the Dodgers go yard in the bottom and they lose. They are farging losers who play like they don't give a shtein.
They will not win until they learn how to hit and get rid of that black hole of , Jenkins ,Bruntlett, Ruiz/Coste portion of the line up.
This team disgusts me and takes the fun out of watching baseball
Mets win 4-3.
Marlins win 4-3.
Phillies lose 4-3.
GO TEAM.
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on August 13, 2008, 01:02:33 AM
My point is even if he gets hosed...they go to the 10th and fail to score. Then the Dodgers go yard in the bottom and they lose.
if they are gonna lose anyway why were you mad at burrell coming out in the first place?
farging bums. Went to bed happy thinking they won, woke up to see they pulled their usual choke job. I hate this team.
It's the bats, stoopid.
Shut down after the third. Plus Manuel's moronic lineup with Homerun Jimmy batting 3rd and the best player 2nd. Just idiotic. How hard is it to hit Burrell 4 and Choke 5? Moron fatass.
Rollins called Phillies fans 'frontrunners' on The Best Damn Sports Show. farg him. The panel even gave him shtein for his comments and he just came off like an idiot.
I don't even get worked up about that stuff any more.
I do. Especially when every game there's a commercial of him saying Phillies fans are the most passionate in sports and how being accepted here is not an easy thing and once you're accepted it's special. Sure a lot of that is fluff but for a guy that's been dogging it most of the season and hasn't won squat yet and has had the city support him since he was a rookie that's a zesty thing to say. farg him.
That's exactly why I don't get worked up about those things. Because they talk about whatever the situation calls for.
Phillies commercial? Blow the fans.
National sports show? Rip the fans.
Did you see the whole show or just a clip? Were the hosts baiting him and Howard into the whole Philly fans are horrible people things?
Granted the cool thing to do would have been to defend the fans of your home city...but whatever. Just go out and play baseball.
I only saw a clip but from what I saw the panel was sticking up for Philly and getting on him for his comments. He said "you don't have to deal with things in other cities like you have to in Philly", the panel said that's everywhere then asked him where he's from. He said "Oakland, but they just don't even show up there". He reminded me of TO when he started going nuts. Like I said, farg him.
Right. We're front-runners. That's why the Phillies & Eagles & Flyers are usually sold out despite not winning championships in 28, 48 & 33 years.
Stupid little bitch.
Like I said...I just can't get angry about that.
I mean, lets be real here...Philly fans are known to turn on guys. Do I agree that we are front runners? Nope. Not as a whole. But like all fan bases there are front runners.
One thing that does make me angry...
Why is it when the Phils sign a guy who is at the tail end of his career, he really is at the tail end and has nothing left and plays like shtein (Geoff Jenkins).
But when another team signs a player who is washed up...like says the Cubs signing Jim Edmonds...he plays well?
I hate Edmonds. But imagine him in CF here.
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on August 13, 2008, 07:19:57 PM
Like I said...I just can't get angry about that.
I mean, lets be real here...Philly fans are known to turn on guys. Do I agree that we are front runners? Nope. Not as a whole. But like all fan bases there are front runners.
I disagree. As a whole, philly fans are frontrunners attendance at the eagles in 2005, and training camp this year...as well as down philly and sixer seasons tells the story.
There is a strong base of fans that carry on no matter what as well.
When you are part of one group it is tough to acknowledge the existence of the other.
hes probably alluding to the booing that went on this weekend when the team was playing like shtein, compared to the lovefest they had when they won the nl east.
basically hes an idiot. its that way in new york, chicago, philly, detroit; any real sports city that doesnt accept losing games to shteinsburgh or losing home series to the florida marlins. jimmy has been here since 2001 he cant be the farging dumb to think this is new or it only goes on here.
Unless today's players get 100% support and adoration from the fans they feel disrespected.
Poor them.
Quote from: Wingspan on August 13, 2008, 07:34:21 PM
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on August 13, 2008, 07:19:57 PM
Like I said...I just can't get angry about that.
I mean, lets be real here...Philly fans are known to turn on guys. Do I agree that we are front runners? Nope. Not as a whole. But like all fan bases there are front runners.
I disagree. As a whole, philly fans are frontrunners attendance at the eagles in 2005, and training camp this year...as well as down philly and sixer seasons tells the story.
There is a strong base of fans that carry on no matter what as well.
When you are part of one group it is tough to acknowledge the existence of the other.
Show me a city that supports all 4 of their teams 100% even when the suck. Those cities don't exist. I'll give Boston the Sox. Pats fans didn't exist before they beat the Rams in the SB. The Celtics attendance wasn't good two seasons ago when they sucked. Bruins are an afterthought in that city.
Boston doesn't support the Sox when they aren't winning. That's all smoke and mirrors. I've never seen a bigger group of front runners than this team. When they are COMPETING the fans come out in droves. When they are average or worse no team in this city can fill the house. Fenway was empty for years in the 90s...
Quote from: SD_Eagle on August 13, 2008, 08:06:40 PM
Quote from: Wingspan on August 13, 2008, 07:34:21 PM
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on August 13, 2008, 07:19:57 PM
Like I said...I just can't get angry about that.
I mean, lets be real here...Philly fans are known to turn on guys. Do I agree that we are front runners? Nope. Not as a whole. But like all fan bases there are front runners.
I disagree. As a whole, philly fans are frontrunners attendance at the eagles in 2005, and training camp this year...as well as down philly and sixer seasons tells the story.
There is a strong base of fans that carry on no matter what as well.
When you are part of one group it is tough to acknowledge the existence of the other.
Show me a city that supports all 4 of their teams 100% even when the suck. Those cities don't exist. I'll give Boston the Sox. Pats fans didn't exist before they beat the Rams in the SB. The Celtics attendance wasn't good two seasons ago when they sucked. Bruins are an afterthought in that city.
I never said those cities existed. They don't.
There is a huge contingent of front running fans in every city, in every stadium, of every sport.
There is a bigger diehard base in philly than in some towns like orlando, or houston...but to deny that there is a large front running following in philly is just blinding yourself to the obvious truth.
Quote"In the 10 games in August, the Phils offense has scored 36 runs. Only the Pirates, Athletics, and Giants
are worse Phils have a Batting Average of .216. Only the Athletics are worse. In the 23 games since the All - Star Break: Phils offense has scored 101 runs. Only the Royals,Reds, Athletics, Nats, and Giants are worse. Phils have a Batting Average of .249. Only the Reds and Athletics are worse."
1st place!
Victorino not in the lineup, I guess his back is farged up.
Quote from: Wingspan on August 13, 2008, 08:33:31 PM
I never said those cities existed. They don't.
There is a huge contingent of front running fans in every city, in every stadium, of every sport.
There is a bigger diehard base in philly than in some towns like orlando, or houston...but to deny that there is a large front running following in philly is just blinding yourself to the obvious truth.
Didn't I say there were front runners in every city? This brings us back to my original point:
Quote from: SD_Eagle on August 13, 2008, 06:55:57 PM
I only saw a clip but from what I saw the panel was sticking up for Philly and getting on him for his comments. He said "you don't have to deal with things in other cities like you have to in Philly", the panel said that's everywhere then asked him where he's from. He said "Oakland, but they just don't even show up there". He reminded me of TO when he started going nuts. Like I said, farg him.
His comments were idiotic because even as the panel said you have to deal with that stuff everywhere. Why he would say that when the fans have supported him 100% since his rookie season is retarded.
Quote from: MDS on August 13, 2008, 09:36:27 PM
Victorino not in the lineup, I guess his back is farged up.
0-4 3 Ks last night. That's a lot of swing and miss.
His comments were idiotic because even if all of a team's fans are front runners, it's dumb for players to say so.
he's having such a great year to be able to back up those comments with
Well shtein...they can score some runs.
Although all via the HR, but I'll take it.
And Blanton is trying his hardest to give it back.
im willing to bet a jason hentz signed klan robe that they lose this game 10-6.
Pipe down, Orodenker. Or I'll take your dreidel away from you.
Cervix is PH'ing for Blanton.
Wheels and McCarthy...oh how I hate them.
the bench today is atrocious with no victorino
bruntlett
cervenek
taguchi
coste
im not even kidding cole hamels is the best hitter available. is it really that difficult for gillick to wake up from his nap and get a decent bat or two off the bench? especially with this putrid offense.
You're right. The bench is putrid.
Ibanez was claimed by someone on waivers today. No idea who (Washburn was too) but I highly doubt Ibanez made it to the Phils. He'll probably be a Met.
yea like the phillies are gonna make their team better
:-D more runners LOB
:-D at this team hitting with RISP
Boy am I glad football season is around the corner. This fargin thing is over.
Offense shut down after the 3rd. Again.
Chad Durbin blew the game. Again.
Manuel handed the ball to Clay Condrey in a tight spot. Again.
I hate this team and I want them to lose. farg them.
farg!
farg!
farg!!
It's a good thing I'm back at work this week and needing to get to bed early. They suck.
A bunch of fargin' bums.
pretty sure there were 45 thousand people chanting mvp 12 months ago at the bank....memory be short jimmy
http://www.forbes.com/2008/08/07/baseball-fans-loyal-forbeslife-cx_mw_0807sport3_slide_7.html?thisSpeed=15000
the idea of calling fans of one of the losingest franchises in all of sports frontrunners is funny.
Quote from: ice grillin you on August 14, 2008, 08:40:47 AM
http://www.forbes.com/2008/08/07/baseball-fans-loyal-forbeslife-cx_mw_0807sport3_slide_7.html?thisSpeed=15000
St. Louis didn't even make the top 10. I mention them because he referenced them when talking about other cities that are more supportive. Lets also not forget the fact that St. Louis had McGwire to root for in the mid to late 90's, has made the playoffs 5 of the last 7 seasons, has been to two world series, and won one. I'd like to see how supportive they are after not making the playoffs for 14 seasons.
youre looking at it backwards...phillies made the top ten LEAST loyal
st louis made the top 10 MOST loyal
theres no question st louis baseball fans are more loyal than phillie fans...they arent better fans but you really cant argue they arent more loyal...loyal to a fault perhaps
but it really deosnt apply to what jimmy said because he wasnt talking about being loyal....imo he was saying that st louis is always positive and doesnt boo
my bad...I quickly went through the list and posted. But like I said, St. Louis has been in a great situation for the past 10 seasons, so of course they're going to be perceived as being more loyal or better fans. Lets see what they're like after an almost 30 year WS drought and 14 year playoff abscence. I'm gonna boo Jimmy as loud as I can the next game I'm at. 1 for his comments, 2 for playing like shtein, 3 for letting the MVP - which he should be thanking the fans for - go to his head.
even tho they are MA's st louis is arguably the best baseball city in the country...i have nothing bad to to say about them
what about the time the phillies scored 20 on them and somebody hit a double in the 7th inning and they acted like it was the game winning hit of the World Series?
yeah, i would love to be that type of fan
Radano was on WIP this morning and said Rollins has been nothing but a prima donna pain in the ass since winning the MVP and he wants a new contract of at least $10M+/yr. 3 for his last 18 and 0 for 5 last night. The offense is total ish when he's not doing anything...
And stop throwing Durbin out there for the 8th, Charlie. He can't handle it, stupid hick....
Quote from: SunMo on August 14, 2008, 10:20:41 AM
what about the time the phillies scored 20 on them and somebody hit a double in the 7th inning and they acted like it was the game winning hit of the World Series?
yeah, i would love to be that type of fan
like i said they are middle americans...i dont wanna be them...but its still a great baseball city
phillie fans these days dont have much room to criticize anyone after the atrocity that goes on down at the bank these days...the new phillie fan is as sickening as it gets
lol, Forbes' list of most loyal includes pittsburgh and atlanta in their top 5...yeah, that's credible
its a lot like ff talking about sports...money lovers should not be analyzing sports
basically what they are saying is its not a matter of how many fans you have... its the difference between your attendance when your winning and your attendance when your losing
what they determined is a team that draws 11K when they lose and 13K when they win has a more "loyal" fanbase than a team that draws 20K when they lose and 40K when they win
its retarded to say the least
but yet you posted it...stop playing with my mind man
Quote from: ice grillin you on August 14, 2008, 10:46:12 AM
its a lot like ff talking about sports...money lovers should not be analyzing sports
Don't hate on the player, bro-dawg.
Quote from: ice grillin you on August 14, 2008, 10:19:05 AM
even tho they are MA's st louis is arguably the best baseball city in the country...i have nothing bad to to say about them
That's all fine and dandy, but lets see how supportive they are when they have an ownership like the Phillies and go through the type of drought Phils fans have. People used to say the same thing about Rams fans, but they've suddenly fallen off the face of the earth.
ive never heard one single positive thing said about st louis football fans
where as st louis is a legendary baseball city
philly cant be the best in everything guys
Quote from: ice grillin you on August 14, 2008, 11:00:45 AM
ive never heard one single positive thing said about st louis football fans
where as st louis is a legendary baseball city
philly cant be the best in everything guys
I'm not comparing our fanbases, I'm simply pointing out its much easier to be a happy life is swell fan when your team has actually done something worth a damn within the past 5-10 years. Sporting News named St. Loius it's best sports city after the Rams little run, and everyone from TV analyst to every schmuck that bought a Faulk/Warner jersey spouted off how great and loyal their fans were.
Quote from: ice grillin you on August 14, 2008, 11:00:45 AM
philly cant be the best in everything guys
But the one thing we know for sure is that the Flyers are bigger than the Sixers in Philly.
that sporting news best city thing every year is pure garbage
Of course it is, but it shows that its easy to say how great fans are of a certain city when their teams are doing well year after year.
That was my point yesterday. The Eagles, Phillies & Flyers haven't won anything in a collective 109 years yet we still show up night after night and watch these farging clowns, yet Rollins has the nerve to suggest we're front-runners.
Calling us bandwagoners is so laughable it's not even worth a rebuttle. It is worth a hearty farg you, though.
for Jimmy to say that is sickening. They farging suck for years, and everyone still supported them, maybe Jimmy should go to Miami and play for the Marlins.
Quote from: SD_Eagle on August 14, 2008, 11:11:53 AM
Of course it is, but it shows that its easy to say how great fans are of a certain city when their teams are doing well year after year.
but its not a best fans thing...its a best sports city...basically whoevers teams do the collective best that year wins
Then Boston = best sports city.
Huzzah.
st. louis fans are little league parents. the team is like all their kids and they go and cheer when they do something right, sit on their hands when they do something wrong. calling them good baseball fans is laughable, they are simple minded middle americans who like scrappy little white players and adore pinch hitting japs.
the upcoming homestad with la and the mets is gonna be the beginning of the end. they are gonna lose most of those games, jimmy is gonna get booed and run out of town, it's gonna be carnage. but meanwhile chase utley will hustle out his pop ups and groundouts to second so good for him.
Quote from: MDS on August 14, 2008, 12:54:44 PM
but meanwhile chase utley will hustle out his pop ups and groundouts to second so good for him.
This is your finest piece of writing in weeks. I actually chortled.
QuoteWell, myself and a couple other reporters just got through with a 12-minute conversation with Jimmy Rollins in which the MVP shortstop expanded on the now infamous remarks he made on the "Best Damn Sports Show Period" on Fox Sports Net.
Essentially, his point boils down to this: Athletes are human. And even though you think they should stand there and take booing because they make a lot of money, it doesn't work that way. They hear it, and they feel it, and it can affect them negatively. He said he expects to be booed when he deserves it. But in his opinion, Philly sports fans often take it to an extreme. For example, he pointed out the fans' treatment of Tom Gordon this season, and their booing of Ryan Howard.
His point: why turn on players so quickly?
I'm in the middle of transcribing the interview, but I think this quote sums it up best:
"Do they come to the games? That wasn't the aspect I was talking about. They always say they are passionate to a fault. That's not the aspect I was talking about ... For example, when I went down, [Eric] Bruntlett came in and played. He got booed his first time out there because he made one error in New York. And then they are on his side after he comes through and gets some big hits. You should be there from Day One, because he is the guy who is going to be in there for 25 games. He is going to need your energy the same way when I'm out there I need it to keep going. There are some days you really sit back and say. 'Boy, these fans are really behind us' and you can feel it and it can get you going. Or, it's 'Dang, they just booed him, and I'm coming up next.' It kind of just bounces down through the team person to person to person to person."
Q: Do they forget ballplayers are human?
A: "I don't know if they forget. A lot of times fans world wide in general, they say well you are making all this money, you are supposed to (take it). Or I paid to come to the game so I can let you know anything and say anything I want. Well I don't, but (other players) have kids, I've got a wife, I've got mom and dad. Before I was a ballplayer I was a person and I am a person the same way you are. So you say something as a person, forget the uniform, as a person I could say something back. But because of the uniform, I can say anything I want to you, and that's your armor, that's your shield. It's just not true. Not at all."
Q: On booing Tom Gordon. . .
A: Man, they jumped all over him. That's why I'm running up to him (when he comes out of the bullpen) like, Come on. Because I'm trying to reinforce that we need him. I understand what's going on out there, but we need you out here, dog. Put that out your mind. And it's hard, because your human, and you hear it, and you throw a ball and it gets louder.
Q: On booing on the road. . .
A: If they want to boo us as the visting team, keeping giving me some boos. But at home, give us some home field advantage.
Q: On how his "Front-runner" comment was mis-interpreted
A: That's exactly where when I say it, that's when I look at. . .I think they are talking about the attendancea nd the support. No. I have never once said that. Anytime I've mentioned the fans, I've never once said that. Anytime I've mentioned the fans, I've never said taht part of it. But the way you put it, Opening Day introductions. They did that to Schoenweis in New York. It's just like, are you serious?
Q: Is Rollins happy in Philly?
A: Happy? I've never not been happy. My mission and my goal is to win a championship. It has nothing to do wtih happiness, nothing to do with love. That has nothing to do with it. We're talking about getting us to play better. Getting you to support better. That's their goal and I think sometimes they feel by getting on you, they can help change the outcome. Negative energy doesn't produce anything positive.
Earlier, Rollins returned to Best Damn Sports Show Period to talk about his comments made yesterday about the Philadelphia fans ... Rollins was interviewed by phone by hosts Chris Rose and John Salley. Here is a transcript of the interview, sent by Fox Sports Net.
Asked if he was surprised about the fans' reaction:
"Actually, very surprised. People take things and use them in whichever way they use, but yeah, I'm definitely surprised....I don't know who called in and who did what. It's just one of those things. The way, I guess, what front runner means and the way I think about it is completely different from, yes, than what they're using it... Like I said, they're on your side – they're demanding fans, everybody knows that. When you're doing good, they're on your side. When you're not doing good, they're going to let you know – 'We expect better. We want better. And we want it now.' And I think they feel that by doing that, they can influence the way you play. But when you're giving off that negative energy, it really doesn't.
"And I think that maybe they're like, 'We don't show up,' which is what I guess front runner means – they're only on your side when you're winning. No, we get 45,000 fans every night. They scream, they cheer and they want a winner. There's no doubt about that. But, as passionate as they are about us going out there and winning and playing well, that's the same passion I feel about them giving us support. Don't get on us when we're down this time of the year, come out and support us.
"There are definitely games, don't get me wrong, where I'm like, 'Damn, you know, we are getting booed and we need to get booed because we're not doing well.' But there are a lot of times where it makes it harder to play at home when they're against you – or it feels like they're against you. They're never really against you, but it feels like they're against you – they're venting against you and it doesn't help. So, like I said, they show up. You asked about the West Coast, I'm from Oakland, I'm like, 'They don't show up.' That has nothing to do with it.
"The whole thing was, look, here we are in the playoffs, we're at home, we're in first place. There's really nothing to boo about. We're not going to win every game. As long as we win by one when it comes down to the finish. But, go out there and support us. When Carlos Ruiz comes up to the plate, don't boo him because you want (Chris) Coste in the game. This man has a job to do today. Encourage him to do his job to the best of his abilities."
Asked if he wanted to take any of his original comments back:
"The term front runner and what it actually means and to what I was using it, what was going through my mind, they weren't accurate. Front runners is like people who only show up when you're winning. Hey, we're going to cheer you if you win. That's not it about Philly fans. They're passionate. They show up – like I said, 45,000. We've got like 42 sellouts. They announce it everynight. That's not what I meant. Like I said, it's the fact that here we are at this point of the year, come out and be supportive. Don't necessarily get on us. We can use that positve energy. And you know that positive energy can lift you, that negative energy can bring you down."
Oh, Jesus... ::)
On what he expects the reation to him will be when he gets back to Philly:
"Who knows? Who knows? We're trying to win games. All we look for is support. If they want to boo me, that's fine. That's fine. It's not going to effect me from doing my job. My job is to go out there and try to win ballgames and I'm going to do that my best."
:puke
Jimmy stilll has a lot of west coast in him. Sports there aren't as big as they are on the East coast. We're passionate, we boo. We don't show up in the 3rd, drink champagne, then leave in the 7th to beat traffic. Basically he's till got that Cali. Hoyda perspective.
He's from farging Oakland.
First place Mets :-\
Quote from: SD_Eagle on August 14, 2008, 09:08:09 PM
Jimmy stilll has a lot of west coast in him. Sports there aren't as big as they are on the East coast. We're passionate, we boo. We don't show up in the 3rd, drink champagne, then leave in the 7th to beat traffic. Basically he's till got that Cali. Hoyda perspective.
youre thinking socal...surfers like matt mccoy and seashell bombers like hamels
jimmy is from the oaktown ghetto...it aint no joke there
My old room mate is from Vallejo which is a ghetto ass part of Oakland...maybe 10-15 minutes from where Jimmy grew up. I've been to that area more times than I can count. I'm not saying he hasn't put his time in the hood, what I'm saying is the mindset of professional sports is completely different. John Kruk had a good quote I can't find about how it's a way of life on the east coast whereas the west coast it's a night out on the town.
I don't disagree much with what Rollins said. He was pretty spot on, IMO.
Brett Myers looked good again tonight.
Offense? not so much.
At one point they were 1-31 since the 3rd inning last night.
I cannot understand why they look so horrible. I know teams look bad from time to time but this bad? Jesus effin Christ.
Get yer brooms out!
What a bunch of goddamn bums.
I really cannot stand to watch these fargs.
Last three games...
Phils have had the leadoff guy on 3 times.
Three times in 3 games. Not to lead off the game. But to lead off innings.
Rollins with another 0-fer. F'ing dog.
How do you spell finished?
Quote from: BigEd76 on August 15, 2008, 12:43:03 AM
Rollins with another 0-fer. F'ing dog.
He only plays well when the team is good. What a frontrunner.
I will bet $1000 in MDS's jew gold that the Phillies will still win the division.
Quote from: mpmcgraw on August 15, 2008, 06:45:02 AM
I will bet $1000 in MDS's jew gold that the Phillies will still win the division.
how about $20 of it?
farging bums, I actually stayed up to watch the end since the Eagles game ran so late.
Quote from: mpmcgraw on August 15, 2008, 06:45:02 AM
I will bet $1000 in MDS's jew gold that the Phillies will still win the division.
It's gonna come down to which team sucks ass less.
the mets suck but suck much less....they arent gonna have a once in a lifetime meltdown two years in a row
Wouldn't really be a meltdown as both teams are neck in neck...and I wouldn't underestimate the mets suckiness
mets will be 5-10 games up by sept 15
shtein they might be up by that much by the eagles opener...yeah the phils get the nats mixed in twice but they play the dodgers mets and cubs 13 times in the next two and a half weeks
Its amazing how little you know about baseball.
Quote from: mpmcgraw on August 15, 2008, 08:16:17 AM
Its amazing how little you know about baseball.
forgotten more than your saber metric only know what i read off the internet ass
you gonna put up the 20 piece or go away?
I'll bet pretty much anything the Mets don't finish 5-10 games above the Phillies.
zzzzzzzzzzzz
are you in or not?...or did my pointing out what the schedule makers did get you shook...you see dunny theres more to baseball than vorp
Quote from: mpmcgraw on August 15, 2008, 06:45:02 AM
I will bet $1000 in MDS's jew gold that the Phillies will still win the division.
sure Im in.
you have MDS's paypal info right?
haha...maybe next time before you spout off look at things like the SCHEDULE instead of pat burrells WBHPKHRBB percentage
Actually I am 100% positive that the Phillies will win the division.
seriously though MDS will be my financial backer.
Quote from: mpmcgraw on August 15, 2008, 08:45:05 AM
Actually I am 100% positive that the Phillies will win the division.
seriously though MDS will be my financial backer.
igy was 100% positive the Flyers were going down game 7 vs. the Caps
Yes, igy is wrong a lot.
That's why I am positive.
why did you steal my avatar you farging jew
i know its hard to believe because im on point so much but yes even igy is wrong sometimes....in fact igy's nationals mets prediction was one of the worst in recent memory
and i dont care if youre 100% positive the phillies are gonna win the division but dont wanna bet on it...but dont say you will bet then backpeddle like a bitch....
igy = hustla and likes to cake off...especially from dumb people
and really likes cake
how many times do i have to say I am betting on it and MDS is covering me.
The Philadelphia Phillers; fillin' time between April and the start of the Eagles season
Quote from: mpmcgraw on August 15, 2008, 09:37:29 AM
how many times do i have to say I am betting on it and MDS is covering me.
until its funny?
totally serial.
playa's got mad insert wigger word for money now that hes working for playboy
not yet...keep trying
that is incredibly accurate
Quote from: SD_Eagle on August 15, 2008, 09:00:13 AMigy was 100% positive the Flyers were going down game 7 vs. the Caps
so was most of the country
Quote from: BigEd76 on August 15, 2008, 10:11:00 AM
Quote from: SD_Eagle on August 15, 2008, 09:00:13 AMigy was 100% positive the Flyers were going down game 7 vs. the Caps
so was most of the country
Not enough to drop two-fitty on the caps
what?
the money was all on the caps...as much as people bet on hockey that is
damn igy took mpmcgraw for all he was worth. kid tries to act like hes smarter than everyone, but damn son, shorty just got played.
hey if i am wrong you are the one thats gonna be losing money.
why did you steal my avatar you kunt?
Quote from: mpmcgraw on August 15, 2008, 11:21:42 AM
hey if i am wrong you are the one thats gonna be losing money.
you are still beating this into the ground?
Quote from: MDS on August 15, 2008, 11:27:25 AM
Quote from: mpmcgraw on August 15, 2008, 11:21:42 AM
hey if i am wrong you are the one thats gonna be losing money.
you are still beating this into the ground?
word.
well since you arent going away anytime soon why dont you explain why youre better than everyone else and why the phillies will win the nl east. im sure its the same logic that people take to the casinos.
and why you stole my avatar while you're at it
Quote from: MDS on August 15, 2008, 11:34:31 AM
well since you arent going away anytime soon why dont you explain why youre better than everyone else and why the phillies will win the nl east. im sure its the same logic that people take to the casinos.
because the offense isn't this bad and will come around eventually.
groundbreaking stuff i know.
right and the pitching will hold up and so will the bullpen
Starters will.
Bullpen will be servicable.
yea the 6-7-8-9 of jenkins, coste, bruntlett and pitcher will knock in burrell when he draws a 1 out walk.
you do realize the offensive is well past the point of being unlucky. they are having bad at bats, their weaknesses are being exposed. its not oh the numbers say theyll start getting hits. its the leadoff hitter doesnt give a shtein, the second hitter is a moron, the third is letting the struggles go to his head, the fourth strikes out every other at bat and the fifth is streaky and draws a lot of walks. the rest suck. manuel isnt going to play dobbs more often so that wont help things.
the team is flawed and they arent good enough to win the world series, let alone the nl east. stop being such an idiot homer.
haha the lil guy hates beane so much
well i do hate billy beane the person but not his philosophy. but its not the gospel. you cant work out during the game and then act like you know everything by plugging a bunch of numbers into the calculator.
Quote from: MDS on August 15, 2008, 01:03:14 PM
well i do hate billy beane the person but not his philosophy. but its not the gospel. you cant work out during the game and then act like you know everything by plugging a bunch of numbers into the calculator.
the less sports gets nerded up the better
no doubt. you should certainly look at and value the saber nerd stats, but whats happening is accounting majors from harvard and starting to get bigger roles and cool jocks like me cant give them wedgies anymore.
didnt you say you were 5'8 140.
real athletic build you have.
why do you remember my height and weight and clearly i was joking.
i doubt it you look rather petite in your pictures.
make sure you guys post your Pitch and Putt scores after tomorrow night
and dont leave anything out
Quote from: mpmcgraw on August 15, 2008, 01:10:49 PM
didnt you say you were 5'8 140.
real athletic build you have.
you have the worst sense of humor ever
well at least I'm not fat.
You both have valid points.
Quote from: rjs246 on August 15, 2008, 01:35:59 PM
You both have valid points.
The best post of the last two pages.
Quote from: MDS on August 15, 2008, 01:09:03 PM
no doubt. you should certainly look at and value the saber nerd stats, but whats happening is accounting majors from harvard and starting to get bigger roles and cool jocks like me cant give them wedgies anymore.
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This offense in SD?
0 runs three straight games.
The Pads will probably win all 3 1-0.
Pretty close to being right...
Thank, Burrell.
The offense is still maddening to watch.
i hate it when mpmcgraw is right. damn this offense for being so good.
it will come around
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on August 15, 2008, 06:59:39 PM
The Pads will probably win all 3 1-0.
Almost correct! They'll take the next 2.
Quotewe will score over 6 runs tonight
They jump out to a 3-1 lead.
Then in true Phillies style, Kendrick give up a 2 out rbi single to a rookie pitcher in his MLB debut.
3-2 Phils.
:puke
Giles clears the bases with a double to RF.
Inning started at 3-1...now 5-3...motherfarging bums.
Giles, that guy that wouldn't have helped their offense
not at all
i hate this team. i hate this season. i hate baseball.
I came here to wonder why Manual put eyer in, with the pitchers spot to bat, then pinch hitted for him, only to bring another lefty in the next inning...instead of double switching.
Then i looked and saw that there are 13 pitchers on the active roster. 13?! (blanton, condrey, durbin, eyre, hamels, kendrick, lidge, madson, moyer, myers, romero, seanez, walrund).
And 12 position players. when two of them are Taguchi, and Jenkins...there's no bench whatsoever.
Pat Gillick can't go away fast enough for me.
what ever you do, do not ever, ever try to figure this shtein out. it will kill you.
I have no energy left to hate this team more than I hate them now.
Watching them has killed me.
They strikeout too much, give up RBIs to pitchers, cant get bunts down, no one gives a shtein, no one argues, no one shows emotion, no one can put the team on their back and carry them.
No one can do shtein.
farg these farging losers.
i am heading out the door right now to a pizza joint and before i order our pizza i am going to have at least 8 heinekens to help ease some of this pain.
Geoff Jenkins, So Taguchi, Eric Bruntlett, and Chris Coste is your bench.
The first three there may be the 3 worst combined phillies in the last 20 years.
Quote from: Wingspan on August 17, 2008, 12:41:00 AM
Geoff Jenkins, So Taguchi, Eric Bruntlett, and Chris Coste is your bench.
The first three there may be the 3 worst combined phillies in the last 20 years.
i meant 12 heinekens.
Make it 13.
One for each of the Phillies K's tonight.
Quote from: Wingspan on August 17, 2008, 12:41:00 AM
Geoff Jenkins, So Taguchi, Eric Bruntlett, and Chris Coste is your bench.
The first three there may be the 3 worst combined phillies in the last 20 years.
on paper thats actually not a bad bench...before the season it would have looked real good....this team just plain sucks
:-D
name ten better on paper benches
bruntlett has been a very good utility guy
so was one of the best ph's in the game
people wanted coste to start this year
jenkins was a borderline starter
Who cares about "on paper benches"?
The phils have had a terrible exposed bench this season...and the only thing gillick does is add a 6+ era left handed reliever.
Jenkins has never been anything but an average hitter for a bad team for most of his career. I dont think he's even come close to hitting even .290 more than 3 times in the past 7 years.
Bruntlett filled in decently when MVP got hurt...and has been crap since.
taguchi was terrible, and is terrible
Only idiots want coste to start full time...but even said, fine. Start coste and it's Ruiz on the bench...better?
Still there are only 4 position players on the bench...for a team that can't hit, thats terrible. and that is on gillick.
the whole team definitely sucks im just saying the bench shouldnt be this bad and i dont know what more gillick could have done...in the end the gm i suppose deserves the blame for them sucking but at the time you couldnt hate on him forming that group of guys
the much bigger problem is not aquiring guys like harden or sabathia
Kyle Kendrick blows.
yeah he isnt very good but hes far from the problem...the biggest problem regarding him is that hes their #2 or 3 starter when he should be a five
last line in the inky game story today....
The Phillies are hitting .198 (64 for 324) in their last 10 games, and .190 (37 for 195) in the first six games of this seven-game trip.
Read it. All of you.
http://www.phillymag.com/articles/the_phantom_five/
QuoteIn the Phillies boardroom, the mantra isn't "You're fired!" — it's "We'll get 'em next year, fellas." "Play it safe" has replaced "Play ball!" as the rallying cry. The Phillies' front office is a place where jobs last forever, everyone's chummy, and no one is held accountable, starting with the owners themselves, who refuse to talk to the media or to accept responsibility for failing to bring home a single championship during their 26-year reign. At best, they're cowardly. What's more, they're violating the civic pact you make when you buy a professional baseball team, and the quasi-public trust you create when you ask the city and state for $260 million in funding to build your new ballpark.
good article
QuoteMontgomery, his good friends in the front office and the Phantom Five are playing with some serious house money. It belongs to the tax-paying, seat-buying, jersey-wearing fans. Accountability to them is long overdue.
it is a good piece....but that article is like a year old isnt it...everyone should subscribe to philly mag...its so farging awesome
Yeah, it was out in May.
But its still pretty startling to read.
may wow...i literally thought it was like a year ago...im either losing it or getting really old or both
They spend the money they make, the problem is that they are utterly incompetent and continue to promote people who should be fornicated with an iron stick like Amaro.
the owners made 11 million last year according to what someone on bsg posted and thats near the bottom of the league.
i dont know who someone is or what bsg is but word to both of them
bsg = backshegoes
A Phils fan MB
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shhh they're winning. Don't startle them
lol @ the phils making 11 million last year. if they did that they have the most incompetent business people and deserve to fail.
but billy beane said someone on a baseball message board said they did....it has to be true
11 million dollars!!
a media market of 4 mil and plenty of fans elsewhere had to make more than 11 mil. with revenue sharing and all the cake the made from the stellar crowds at the bank, they were rakin it in no doubt.
my groups six game plan is worth a million by itself
choke is a god damn disgrace
i love his slow swaggering walk back to the dugout while he shakes his head. its really something.
hamels is counting the days till he hits free agency
im pretty sure now that he stayed healthy for a year the phils are gonna lock him up. hes a laid back california guy, he dont need to win to be happy
hes a surfer meaning hed rather quit baseball than play in philly...and no the phillies arent giving anyone 115 million dollar contract.....especially not one who was beefing with them over a chiropractor
that broken elbow is really farging him up
well no not that much but if i remember reading correctly they wanted to do it once he proved he could pitch a full season without going on the dl.
did you read that on bsg?
he got banned from bsg lolz
i believe it was a legit publication but who knows
that must have been devastating, that seems to be the site with all the great info
Quote from: jihadist monk on August 17, 2008, 10:42:16 PM
he got banned from bsg lolz
not nerdy enough?
or not wrong enough?
nah he constantly made fun of some guy who cant spell yet posts a cagillion times a day and wants burrell's jock more than i do. that is incredibly accurate try to imagine that.
at least thats what i think happened.
we really didn't care
neither do i
do you speak for both of you now
mikey
lidges velocity concerns me
i really think it is effecting his movement
I said weeks ago that i misjudged Lidge...but forwhatever reason he can not throw his fastball this season.
That said, he's back to being able to control his slider both in the dirt and in the strike zone. The part I did not factor in with lidge originally was how smart of a pitcher he was.
He knows his velocity is not as good as it once was, but has found a way to be effective without it.
haha...so you were right on about everthing but his mental make up which is the only reason he can get anyone out
lol
Quote from: ice grillin you on August 17, 2008, 11:05:23 PM
haha...so you were right on about everthing but his mental make up which is the only reason he can get anyone out
lol
I was concerned about his injuries and his loss of his fastball from the very beginning.
Both of those things are still very valid concerns...as you said about 5 posts up yourself.
What i did not know, and what i was wrong about was how good his slider was and how he basically made it two pitches.
so yeah...lol i guess.
youre not a closer if you dont have a dominant out pitch...lidges was is and will always be a slider....the fact that you overlooked his bread and butter is alarming
Reading comprehension is fundamental.
so is knowing baseball
but for real im sure you will yell really loud when/if lidge blows a save
True, he's probably going to be the first to blow a save...ever.
Quote from: ice grillin you on August 18, 2008, 12:22:28 AM
so is knowing baseball
but for real im sure you will yell really loud when/if lidge blows a save
Show me one string of words on this page that was incorrect that was typed by me. Not interpreted by you.
i give wing credit for owning up to mistake...but he still loves Joe Banner
I don't think I have ever said one good thing about banner...ever.
other than that you're in love with him
I never said that was a good thing. Love hurts.
eagles front office cant go 30 for 30 in saves
and you cant get credit for maybe the worst call of all time...especially when you say it was only a bad call because you under-estimated how smart the guy is...whatever that means
and thats word to howie roseman
I did not ask for, nor am I looking for any kind of "credit" about anything I say on a message board.
then youre golden cause youre not getting any
I am simply terrified of your big internet penis.
the Phils are the best at winning half games :yay
gotta love that Mets bullpen. Up 2-0 to lose 5-2
Saw this on the EMB...
QuoteFYI, after 124 games:
2008: 66-58, 1.5 games back
2007: 66-58, 5 games back
1980: 66-58, 2.5 games back
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jimmy is gonna get demolished. enough people dont read nerdy sports blogs.
Zolecki picked it up in his blog too.
I will be there tonight.
Booing.
wow they are making way too big a deal out of this jimmy rollins nonsense
Whats even worse is all the cock hurt nancy's who are offended and whining about it.
OHMYGOD Jimmy Rollins called us frontrunners! I'm going to boo! I pay him money! My vagina hurts! Booooooooo to you Jimmy!
i dont know why but i was listening to a little eskin today and the people calling him were just going off about how much they hate jimmy and how mike schmidt annoyed them because he asked that they take off the pen cap before he signs something
people are just stupid and believe athletes are like their personal property, they should be catering their lives to fans all the time no matter what. moron country
0-3 with a DP so far tonight. He's getting booed hard
Quote from: MDS on August 19, 2008, 07:25:03 PM
i dont know why but i was listening to a little eskin today and the people calling him were just going off about how much they hate jimmy and how mike schmidt annoyed them because he asked that they take off the pen cap before he signs something
people are just stupid and believe athletes are like their personal property, they should be catering their lives to fans all the time no matter what. moron country
Exactly.
Year before last a lot of people hated Jimmy. I used to catch shtein because I like him. Last year because he was MVP and his comments and the beating of the Mets they all wanted to blow him. Now he makes a comment and its like he raped peoples mothers and sisters.
What cracks me up is how offended people in Philly get offended by things like this. So much for a tough attitude.
What about when Fregosi said all of South Philly goes home and fargs their mothers? To me that's funny.
What Jimmy said doesn't deserve all this shock of oh my Jimmy said something bad about us. We're a buncha sissies. Let's cry about it.
The booing and the crying on radio and message boards has reached the point of enough.
Jimmy should still shut his stupid mouth and figure out why he's sucking this year.
QuoteFor Phils' Rollins, unusual season of adversity
By Todd Zolecki
Inquirer Staff Writer
Larry Bowa once called Phillies fans the worst ( expletive deleted) fans in the world.
Jimmy Rollins now has called them front-runners.
The two shortstops certainly have more in common than their observations of Phillies fans - both won Gold Gloves and made all-star teams, for example - but last week at Dodger Stadium, where Los Angeles swept the Phillies in four games, Bowa acknowledged one noteworthy difference between himself and Rollins.
"I was a good player," he said. "Jimmy is a great player."
But Rollins, the reigning National League most valuable player, is having an unusual season for arguably the greatest shortstop in franchise history. After he memorably proclaimed the Phillies the team to beat in the National League East last year - and backed up his words to become the first player in baseball history with 200 hits, 20 doubles, 20 triples, 20 home runs, and 20 stolen bases in a season - he has dealt with adversity on and off the field.
Rollins enters tonight's series opener against the Washington Nationals at Citizens Bank Park hitting .266 with 8 home runs, 42 RBIs and 31 stolen bases.
His .333 on-base percentage is his lowest since 2003, when it was .320. His .431 slugging percentage is his lowest since 2005, when it also was .431. He missed 25 games because of a sprained ankle. He has been pulled from a game because he failed to run out a fly ball. He was scratched from a lineup because he showed up late to the ballpark.
Then last week, he appeared on Best Damn Sports Show Period and called Phillies fans front-runners, although he clarified later that he wasn't implying that the fans don't show up or don't care. He was saying that negative energy at the ballpark - specifically, booing a player before he steps into the batter's box or onto the mound - hurts more than it helps.
"We'll all find out on Tuesday," said Rollins, asked Saturday at Petco Park in San Diego what kind of reaction he expects tonight. "I'm more worried about what's going to happen tonight, really. All you have to do is win the game, and they'll cheer. They want a winner. We want to win. They'll cheer if we win. And if they don't, oh well."
But there's no question that while Rollins has been a lightning rod, he plays a critical role in how his team finishes the season.
He led the Phillies into the postseason last year. He can do it again. He just needs to rediscover his MVP mojo at the plate.
"I'm looking for it," Rollins said. "It's like, 'Man, what was I doing last year?' I've watched my highlight tape. I look at things and I'm like, 'Got it.' I come in here and try to repeat it. Sometimes it happens; sometimes it doesn't. But even last year, I was looking at myself going, 'OK, got it.' I'd go into the game and I was able to repeat it over and over and over and over and over. This year, I just haven't been able to repeat it over and over and over and over and over and over. That's the only difference."
Charlie Manuel said Rollins' effort has been there, especially lately.
"Jimmy's been hustling, if you've been noticing," he said. "Defensively, he's had some real good games. Yeah, he's been hustling. He does early hitting in the cage some days, and every now and then he comes out and hits early. Last year, he probably took early hitting, hell, maybe not at all. He's never done that. He's probably done more this year than he has in the past."
So what's been Rollins' biggest issue at the plate?
"Timing," Rollins said.
"I've been hitting with my foot in the air a lot. If the foot isn't down, you're not going to have a good swing. You're not going to see the ball. Anything you can put with a bad swing, that's what happens when your foot is in the air. Your timing is off. When your foot is down, you recognize pitches earlier. You see them better. You're able to make a better decision. And naturally, because you see them earlier, you can put a better swing on it. You have a better chance of doing something close to what you want to do with the ball."
Rollins insisted that this year's trials and tribulations haven't bothered him to the point that his play has been affected, although he still disagreed with Manuel's decision to bench him July 24 at Shea Stadium, where he showed up after the team bus. He thought he should have been fined instead.
Rollins said his ego hasn't been bruised because of it.
"I think it is hard being prideful when you have a younger brother and a younger sister," he said. "Your whole life is trying to lead the way and you have to share. Nothing is ever yours because you have to bring them in. That's part of it."
It is mentioned to Rollins that at least two of the most popular players in Phillies history - Bowa and Mike Schmidt - also expressed their candid opinions about Phillies fans, and took heat for it.
Bowa ripped the fans after a 15-inning victory over the Chicago Cubs on Sept. 29, 1980. He made an obscene gesture and told reporters afterward that those fans were "the worst [expletive deleted] fans in the world. Front-running [expletive deleted]!"
Schmidt told the Montreal Gazette in 1985 that Phillies fans are "beyond help." He described them as "a mob scene, uncontrollable."
"Sticking up for your team," Rollins said. "That's what it is."
Bowa and Schmidt overcame their comments because they won and performed on the field.
It will be no different for Rollins. If he plays well and the Phillies win, all will be forgiven
say stupid shtein and play good = cheers
say stupid shtein and play zesty = boos
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phreak, why do you act like you don't understand this when you do perfectly
jimmy had been a bust this year already and then he rips the fans....oh, i wonder why he's getting booed. yeah, those stupid fans, they get mad when a player rips them, SHOCKING
Phils beat the Nats on a winning homer by Werth. Lidge pitches a perfect ninth. I'm bored.
the nats are basically a aaa team so good for the phillies for squeaking one out
I'd like to squeak one out onto Jessica Alba's luscious milked-up titties.
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:drool
PS: Rollins has been alternately showboating and dogging it his entire goddamn career. Why anyone is shocked that he's still doing both now when he's stinking up the joint is the truly hilarious element here.
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on August 19, 2008, 08:38:21 PM
Quote from: MDS on August 19, 2008, 07:25:03 PM
i dont know why but i was listening to a little eskin today and the people calling him were just going off about how much they hate jimmy and how mike schmidt annoyed them because he asked that they take off the pen cap before he signs something
people are just stupid and believe athletes are like their personal property, they should be catering their lives to fans all the time no matter what. moron country
Exactly.
Year before last a lot of people hated Jimmy. I used to catch shtein because I like him. Last year because he was MVP and his comments and the beating of the Mets they all wanted to blow him. Now he makes a comment and its like he raped peoples mothers and sisters.
What cracks me up is how offended people in Philly get offended by things like this. So much for a tough attitude.
What about when Fregosi said all of South Philly goes home and fargs their mothers? To me that's funny.
What Jimmy said doesn't deserve all this shock of oh my Jimmy said something bad about us. We're a buncha sissies. Let's cry about it.
The booing and the crying on radio and message boards has reached the point of enough.
He stopped running out pop ups and was benched
Showed up late and was benched
His numbers are way way way down from last season
HE cried about the fans this season
But yeah, its us not him. Give me a farging break.
SuperhomerPhreak is back. I thought he went away when the Phillies fired Wade but he's back again.
LEAVE JIMMY PHREAK ALONE
My point is;
I totally agree with booing him for not hustling. And I totally agree with him for being booed for showing up late. And even because he's stunk up the joint this year. That's not my issue. I boo players just as much as anyone when they deserve it, and he deserved it then.
And he made a stupid remark. Big deal. I don't even care about it too much. People say stupid shtein all the time.
The thing that cracks me up is the fans who get all pissy about it. Like you're offended he would say such a thing. How dare he say that, you think. He can't criticize me because I am a tough Philly fan! I care! I support zesty teams! We're the best fans in the world!
And the constant bitching about it days later. It's over. But that carcass will be beaten, allowed to rot, dragged out and beaten some more and then given a swift kick again just to make sure it's dead.
And, when a player gives it back to the fans who are supposed to be tough people get all indignant about it. Shocked even.
If you're going to dish it, take it.
I used to laugh about the people on the radio who would get all worked up into a frenzy about when a player rips the fans. But usually its the same guy who tells the player to go farg his mother or how farging terrible he is who gets mad when a player shoots back.
Phreak goes to Houston & Wade follows shortly thereafter.
Coincidence?
:paranoid
I want to get his address so I can go by his place and take a dump on his doorstep.
He opened his big fugging mouth while he was on the road, Jay. He's a Hoyda for doing that, but you're right, it doesn't matter in the long run.
He had one spectacular season last year and now he's back to being the same old J-Roll.
Shrugs
Sure...and I think he should catch some heat for it. I'm not saying he should be immune. It just bugs me when people act like he offended them personally and drag it out forever.
So the fans show up to games, Jimmy cries about it but he's not to be criticized? Makes perfect sense.
phillie fans are a disgrace since they have moved to the bank....half of them dont even know what they are booing at...they are out in ashburn alley or wasted in the upper deck not even watching the game hear some booing coming from somewhere turn around and boo themselves...the majority of them could care less about what jimmy rollins said
rather the problem is a simple one...jimmy isnt playing well and when youre not playing well its probably not the best time to spout off at the mouth...if he hits that home run last night and not werth then he gets all cheers
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:-D
Quote from: ice grillin you on August 20, 2008, 08:13:55 AM
phillie fans are a disgrace since they have moved to the bank....half of them dont even know what they are booing at...they are out in ashburn alley or wasted in the upper deck not even watching the game hear some booing coming from somewhere turn around and boo themselves...the majority of them could care less about what jimmy rollins said
rather the problem is a simple one...jimmy isnt playing well and when youre not playing well its probably not the best time to spout off at the mouth...if he hits that home run last night and not werth then he gets all cheers
I have no problem with the current fans, reason being is at least they fill the stadium. I'd rather have a packed house full of families and drunk college kids on dates than a half empty stadium. You can't blame the Phils for marketing to them as they've been successful and making money ultimately helps in adding players.
i dont care about it until im there...i like the fact that it brings money to the team...but its a disgrace embarrassing and almost ruins the game experience for me...if you wanna act like that go to a farging bar and chat it up while you peak at the tv every once and a while and let the real fans enjoy the game at the stadium
the best phillie games to go to are on the road cause you get a decent amount of phillie fans showing up and they are all their to see the team and the game
Quote from: ice grillin you on August 20, 2008, 08:13:55 AM
phillie fans are a disgrace since they have moved to the bank....half of them dont even know what they are booing at...
Quote from: Rome on August 20, 2008, 08:19:37 AM
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Case in point... the guy that's holding up a sign saying to trade Jimmy after the non-waiver trade deadline.
farging retards.
im impressed at all the time and effort he put into that sign
I thought "Hey Jimmy, you have to win something first before we can be called frontrunners" would have been better
Quote from: ice grillin you on August 20, 2008, 09:39:43 AM
im impressed at all the time and effort he put into that sign
I can't tell if it's posterboard or the side of a cardboard box, but either way, there's a lot of love involved.
this is literally the most pointless and boring week long news story ever
a made a poster last night that said, "Rollins Sucks" and held it up in my living room.
Burrell with his 12th OF assist.
Dook's gotta gun.
Phreak's boy Myers is shutting out the AAA Washington Nationals.
NO JINX
QuotePHILADELPHIA -- The option was dismissed as quickly as it was considered. Despite Monday's off-day, the Phillies have decided against juggling their rotation, which could've lined up ace Cole Hamels to face the Mets next week at Citizens Bank Park.
With Monday off, the Phillies could have started Hamels on regular rest Friday and bumped Kyle Kendrick to Saturday. That would've made Hamels' next outing Aug. 27 against New York, but Kendrick will start that day.
"I gave thought to it, then stopped thinking about it," Phils pitching coach Rich Dubee said. "It's not going to happen. We want to try to preserve what we've got here. Cole's at 180-plus innings and leads the National League in innings pitched. It's more beneficial to give him that extra day."
Yeah, God forbid the staff ace pitches against the team in first place.
Hate. This. Team.
CG SHO for Brett and he didn't yell at Charlie. Good times. The Mets won again though...
Why waste Hamels' pitching on a first place team? Better to save him for teams the Phils can score a run or two against. Might as well keep in him the dugout during the Cubs series too.
Quote from: QB Eagles on August 20, 2008, 09:51:09 PM
Why waste Hamels' pitching on a first place team? Better to save him for teams the Phils can score a run or two against. Might as well keep in him the dugout during the Cubs series too.
May as well keep him in the dugout the rest of the season. They'd struggle to score runs against the Saudi Arabian little league team right now.
if the rotation holds he'd miss the mets series in flushing, too. but he'd face florida, so....yea farg these idiots.
Quote from: Rome on August 20, 2008, 09:33:56 PM
QuotePHILADELPHIA -- The option was dismissed as quickly as it was considered. Despite Monday's off-day, the Phillies have decided against juggling their rotation, which could've lined up ace Cole Hamels to face the Mets next week at Citizens Bank Park.
With Monday off, the Phillies could have started Hamels on regular rest Friday and bumped Kyle Kendrick to Saturday. That would've made Hamels' next outing Aug. 27 against New York, but Kendrick will start that day.
"I gave thought to it, then stopped thinking about it," Phils pitching coach Rich Dubee said. "It's not going to happen. We want to try to preserve what we've got here. Cole's at 180-plus innings and leads the National League in innings pitched. It's more beneficial to give him that extra day."
Yeah, God forbid the staff ace pitches against the team in first place.
Hate. This. Team.
simply amazing...they WILL NOT learn...this is the second time in two series and the third time this year they have had a chance to put hamels against the mets and have opted out...youd think they could figure it out that if you pitch your #1 guy against new york maybe you wouldnt lose every series to them
what the farg is wrong with this organization...i love how the reasoning is that he leads the league in innings pitched...well dumb asses perhaps he does that because hes one of the better pitchers in the league and perhaps you want one of the better pitches going against the team youre chasing for the playoffs...its like they think they have a shot at the wild card or something and the mets just arent that important
Meanwhile I'm sure we'll see Santana, Maine and Perez
its only a two gamer and it will be pedro and santana
werd
I like our chances better against Pedro and Johan than I do Oliver and John Boy
yeah ill take anyone over perez
Stupid fargers should alter the rotation.
And King should be in jumping up and down on Dubee and Charlie's desks demanding it.
But the Cali style wont allow that.
phils should see at least one, if not both, of them in the series in flushing.
this is just an incompetent organization and they prove it again by sending kyle kendrick (or maybe happ) to the mound for the biggest series of the year. morons.
Imagine Dallas Green not starting Steve Carlton against the Pirates in the late 70's or early 80's.
Inconceivable right?
If Hamels is truly the ace of the staff then they should match him up against Santana or whoever is the other club's ace if at all possible. Of course, they won't because they're a collection of incompetent farging morons. From top to bottom they're the worst collection of buffoons I've ever seen. And that's why they've never won so much as a playoff game in 15 years.
could this offense be any worse?
farg man...show some respect. They're facing Cy Redding.
He always rapes the Phils.
lol gold glove utley with the smart play there
Quote from: MDS on August 21, 2008, 08:26:21 PM
lol gold glove utley with the smart play there
He actually managed to knock in Werth, though...
that is his 9th rbi this month and first since aug 13. good for him.
atta boy Jimmy
Chooch
i think gameday is broken. it says ruiz homered..
lol nats hand phils another run
manuel uses dobbs even though feliz probably would have done the job
then carlos ruiz of all people hits a hr
they are so lucky to be playing the nats.
Rollins said they'll forget about it and cheer when he does well. Guess he didn't think about the flipside of that.
Nats: 1st and 2nd, 0 outs.
now they're losing
lol and bruntlett has to stay in the game now.
go team.
Ryan Madson sucks.
farging bitch.
Choke comes up to the plate with men on first and second... strikes out for the third time tonight. Way to play the game, big guy.
Phils get their first two on in the bottom of the 8th...
Choke Dawg strikes out. Way to at least get the runner over icehole.
VORP THAT
Holy shtein this team sucks bad!
un clutch.
so basically they are all-in next inning with shane victorino getting on and running around the bases so bruntlett and ruiz dont have to do anything
Looking back at this pathetic season I think my favorite highlight will be during the all star break when all the players non chalantly shrugged their shoulders and said we always play better in the second half.
Yeah, I loved hearing that. It bothered me then and it chafes my ass even more now.
These guys can't hit shtein.
god can manuel get any dumber for using eric bruntlett as a defensive replacement? he is such a farging idiot, i understand he cant do anything about him being on the roster but that doesnt mean he has to play him.
Well he PH for Feliz.
I would have left Dobbs in, but Gregory is not know for making any defensive plays. Even the routine ones.
its a marginal improvement and it was stupid to use up dobbs to get a sac fly in the 7th inning, something feliz could have done.
then he used geoff with no one on 2 batters later, so now in this situation, your bench is brutal. a good manager could have had both jenkins and dobbs ready to go but manuel is a farging moron.
Actually I had no hope in any of them to get that run in.
If Washington was 40 games under .500 they don't play the INF in and that is a routine grounder. No run scores.
Dobbs accidentally made contact.
This team blows.
Look at Bruntlett trying to bunt...
Victorino is the only one doing shtein right now.
Bruntlett....what a horses ass.
Victorino steals and helps out that loser Bruntlett.
its a sad day in baseball land when shane victorino is the best player on the field
May as well try to have Victorino steal home. Might be the best chance they have.
Quote from: Geowhizzer on August 21, 2008, 10:01:27 PM
May as well try to have Victorino steal home. Might be the best chance they have.
Nah. Everyone knows the beloved MVP will win this one for 'em.
LOL @ losing to the Nats. Season over.
farging bums
shteinheads.
What a terrible loss.
Thank you Ryan Madson. You suck
another terrible loss. this stretch vs. la, ny and chi is gonna be it.
Watch them come out and go like 7-2.
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on August 21, 2008, 10:14:43 PM
Watch them come out and go like 7-2.
It never ends with you, does it? You're that guy who will dig all the way through a huge pile of horseshtein, because you figure there's gotta be a pony in there somewhere.
Quote from: FastFreddie on August 21, 2008, 10:18:30 PM
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on August 21, 2008, 10:14:43 PM
Watch them come out and go like 7-2.
It never ends with you, does it? You're that guy who will dig all the way through a huge pile of horseshtein, because you figure there's gotta be a pony in there somewhere.
I'm trying to even make myself believe what I typed. I don't.
Scary thing is that they have a 3.49 ERA in August, and have split their games (9-9). The offense, and the offense alone, is killing this team.
The pitching goes south at all, and it's going to be an ugly end to this season.
there is is a 0% chance they make the playoffs. not even another mets choke job will save them.
even if they do, it won't amount to anything. they shouldn't have made it last year and i'm hoping they don't this year. maybe something substantial will be done in the offseason. like not replacing your best outfielder with geoff jenkins. but of course like a tard, i will watch them disappoint until the season comes to a close. or until sept. 7th.
Completely illogical. You're hoping they don't make the playoffs so that they'll do something in the offseason? Since when have they done anything in recent offseasons but sign mediocre and washed up garbage?
Hoping they'll see the light is retarded because they won't. The best we can hope for is another stirring playoff run in the regular season followed by a first round playoff exit.
It won't change anything but nothing will ever change significantly until ownership changes. That's the real deal, folks.
anyone who thinks they shouldnt have made the playoffs last year is nuts...that was one of the greatest philadelphia sports moments of my career....ill never forget it
as for last night...i am once again beyond furious with charlie.....why the farg did he pitch hit jenkins...forget the fact that no one was on with two outs and that theres little chance this team is goin to get two straight hits...forget the fact that it was only the seventh inning...it farging took their best pitcher on the roster (excl. lidge) this year out of the game forcing you to go with madson to hold the lead in the 8th...youre up one go with durbin in the 8th and lights out in the 9th...what the farg
the entire year hes played for defense late with a lead by taking burrell out of every game...then last night with a late lead hes out of nowhere playing offense for some reason...offense when this team hasnt hit a lick for over two months...hes just beyond belief
btw durbin needs to be moved into the set up role...give madson the 7th
victorino to the lead off spot
choke to whatever team will take him...outright release him if you have to...i farging cant stand that guy
Helping pat gillick clean out his office would be considered an offseason success.
Charlie should be fired if they miss the playoffs, but that won't happen, so no use in whining about it.
Getting rid of the entire bench minus dobbs would be a nice start, including both catchers.
Yeah, I like Durbin and all...but have you seen what he's done in the 8th this year? Call it a coincidence or whatever, but he's sucked there too. He's money in the 6th and 7th, but crap in the 8th.
And Jenkins doubled...which should have meant Jimmy could accidentally drive his ass in but Jimmy was too busy going 0-4 again.
Anyways....Chuck wants King to face the Mets...Dubee is crying about it...
QuoteHamels may be shuffled to face Mets
By MIKE FINNEY
The News Journal
PHILADELPHIA -- Phillies manager Charlie Manuel is intrigued by the idea of moving his pitching order around so that staff ace Cole Hamels would take the mound against the New York Mets in a two-game series next Tuesday and Wednesday.
The luxury of having an off day last Monday just might give Manuel that chance.
However, he was noncommittal before the Phillies took on the Nationals on Wednesday night, even though his team trailed the Mets by 11¼2 games in the National League East.
Hamels (10-8, 3.22 ERA) is scheduled to pitch against the Dodgers on Saturday afternoon. The left-hander made his last start on Sunday in the Phils' 2-1 win over San Diego and would have to move up in the rotation to get a shot at the Mets.
"I think about things like that and there are some things that we'll talk about," Manuel said.
"If we can do something to help us win a game, then I think that's what it's all about."
Pitching coach Rich Dubee seemed to be against moving the staff around.
"It's not going to happen," Dubee said.
He pointed to the fact that Hamels currently leads the National League with 181 2¼3 innings pitched.
Dubee doesn't want to take any chances that a change in routine might hurt Hamels, who was placed on the 15-day disabled list on Aug. 22 last year due to a mild left elbow sprain.
Manuel can understand Dubee's concern, but he didn't rule out moving some pieces around.
"We've got a lot of things to talk about," he said. "Believe me."
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on August 22, 2008, 09:04:24 AM
Yeah, I like Durbin and all...but have you seen what he's done in the 8th this year? Call it a coincidence or whatever, but he's sucked there too. He's money in the 6th and 7th, but crap in the 8th.
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no chance you typed that with a straight face
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on August 22, 2008, 09:04:24 AM
Anyways....Chuck wants King to face the Mets...Dubee is crying about it...
They have to show a sense of urgency here. Yay Charlie.
igs the 8th inning is an abortion. durbin sucked when he was in that role in LA, Madson got lucky not to blow it in SD and obviously blew it last night. there is no right answer there, it just so happened they were forced into madson because they had to pinch hit for durbin the 7th.
and if they make a change with hamels pitching it has to be in the next few hours. also itll be great for the manager to shut down what his pitching coach wants for one of his pitchers. im sure the 2 fat old guys will fight about that one.
the offense has scored 3 runs or less in 40.2% of games this year
Howard's K's are not a big deal.
Nope.
The fact that he has no recognition of strikes and balls or when to take it the other way though is.
23-36 against teams over .500 in the NL, if you factor in teams from the AL they are 27-47 (I'm considering Oakland over .500 because they played them before Beane gave up). Wow.
Factor in this:
Tuesday they scored 5 runs, the Nationals handed them 3.
Wednesday they scored 4 runs, the Nationals handed them 3.
Thursday they scored 3 runs, the Nationals handed them 1.
So that's 3 games, 5 legit runs, with 2 coming off homers that would only be hit at their bandbox of a ballpark. That's coming off a series where they scored 6 runs against the Padres.
To recap: they have played the 2 worst teams in baseball the last 6 games. While they have gone 5-1 in that stretch, the offense has scored a mind boggling 11 legit runs in those games.
Terrible.
Madson's 8th inning last night was more bad luck than him being awful. Zimmerman's grounder to Bruntlett hits the base and goes straight up. Milledge gets jammed and bloops a single over Howard's head. Flores ties the game with a weak grounder up the middle just out of the reach of Madson.
That being said, blowing three 8th inning leads in the last 9 days sucks ass, especially when the Mets keep winning...
Quote from: BigEd76 on August 22, 2008, 12:54:41 PM
Madson's 8th inning last night was more bad luck than him being awful. Zimmerman's grounder to Bruntlett hits the base and goes straight up. Milledge gets jammed and bloops a single over Howard's head. Flores ties the game with a weak grounder up the middle just out of the reach of Madson.
That being said, blowing three 8th inning leads in the last 9 days sucks ass, especially when the Mets keep winning...
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so charlie gets a pass because chad durbin of the 1.70 era supposedly can pitch in any inning but the 8th but madson gets blamed for some tough breaks
7-1 Phils
Coste just went yard
Choke went deep too...
Following this on Yahoo...shtein ass Extra Innings not showing the game
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on August 22, 2008, 08:59:57 PM
7-1 Phils
Coste just went yard
Choke went deep too...
Following this on Yahoo...shtein ass Extra Innings not showing the game
The funny thing is that the game was listed at 7pm, but wasn't showing. Not sure if they had technical problems or what happened, but I'm stuck watching grainy preseason football and Olympic water polo.
same ol crap
Jimmy is hitless
Chase is lost
Kendrick is a deer in headlights that keeps escaping trouble
5 runs on 2 HRs. The rest was a sac fly and a single....
make that 6 on 3 HRs. Chase just homered :-D
who's putting money on 3 or less tomorrow.
all in on the hr and they get 2 only in cbp bombs.
I didn't see where Howard's landed. I'm assuming you're saying Chase's solo shot would have been off the wall many places, which is probably right.
But Coste's was about 7 rows back. That farger would have been out anywhere.
Howard's was about 15 rows back in left center. There isn't a field in the majors that would have held that one.
So, the only homer that really was a CBP special was the solo shot by Utley that didn't affect the outcome of the game in the least, and MDS is full of shtein?
Good to know.
Look at the time stamp on his post. He obviously had drank his six pack of Zima and was fargin' flyin' by then.
Quote from: Rome on August 23, 2008, 07:29:34 AM
Howard's was about 15 rows back in left center. There isn't a field in the majors that would have held that one.
agreed. It was a nice shot.
here are three of them on espn's highlights:
http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/recap?gameId=280822122
perhaps i remembered choke's hr wrong but im pretty sure coste's landed a row or two deep.
Quote from: MDS on August 23, 2008, 11:02:03 AM
im pretty sure coste's landed a row or two deep.
No.
And Utley's was to center, so it still went 400+, so really you're just wrong across the board.
Why is it only an issue when the bums hit a HR at CBP but not when the opposing team does? Ethier's HR barely made it out iirc.
Quote from: FastFreddie on August 23, 2008, 11:51:48 AM
Quote from: MDS on August 23, 2008, 11:02:03 AM
im pretty sure coste's landed a row or two deep.
No.
And Utley's was to center, so it still went 400+, so really you're just wrong across the board.
well chase's was legit, i know that.
just watched the coste hr and it landed in the first or second row in lf. seems like a cbp bomb to me.
didnt see the first burrell hr, was it a cbp bomb or legit?
Question: The Phillies scored three runs in the fifth, right? Ryan Howard is on second with NONE OUT and Cholly has Victorino sacrifice him over to third? Really??
I'm not watching the game, obviously, because it's blacked out, but he really didn't do that did he? Please tell me Shaney had a brain cramp there.
im pretty sure it was either a swinging bunt or he was trying to bunt for a hit.
Quote from: MDS on August 23, 2008, 05:42:33 PM
didnt see the first burrell hr, was it a cbp bomb or legit?
off the foul pole
Rome - Shane's bunt was a drag bunt
and now Shane bloops one over NoMAH....9-2
Jenkins to DL
Andy Tracy, a 34 year old AAA player called up. He did hit 11 HRs in 200 with the Expos.
But once again the FO calls up slop rather than some young talent
Quote from: BigEd76 on August 23, 2008, 05:56:42 PM
Quote from: MDS on August 23, 2008, 05:42:33 PM
didnt see the first burrell hr, was it a cbp bomb or legit?
off the foul pole
Rome - Shane's bunt was a drag bunt
and now Shane bloops one over NoMAH....9-2
ok so no? it was a sac fly turned into a 3r bomb?
but what it took the middle of the order a month and a half to have a good game? ok lets see them keep it up for the mets series and then maybe i wont be a sour puss.
Nah, it was hit pretty good....about halfway up the pole and bounced into foul territory
Eyre and Seanez close it out....9-2 final
cmon Astros help us out
Two straight 7-run wins. We rule.
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on August 23, 2008, 06:21:57 PM
Jenkins to DL
What did they say about Manny to Philly...I had the game on but was busy building my daughters closet...something about Jenkins.
Couldnt see the game on FOX.... so I dont know man
I listened to it on ESPN radio on the local Houston affiliate.
I couldn't see the game either. The Phils were upstaged on the national scene by the Tampa Bay Rays. :-D
(That's just laughing at the Phils, not the Rays. They'll be good a while with that young pitching.)
Quote from: Geowhizzer on August 23, 2008, 07:32:52 PM
I couldn't see the game either. The Phils were upstaged on the national scene by the Tampa Bay Rays. :-D
(That's just laughing at the Phils, not the Rays. They'll be good a while with that young pitching.)
should have watched the LLWS. Hawaii down 5-1 in the bottom of the fifth and scores 6 runs. Face Mexico tomorrow.
Viva Hawaii!
Quote from: SD_Eagle on August 23, 2008, 06:59:01 PM
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on August 23, 2008, 06:21:57 PM
Jenkins to DL
What did they say about Manny to Philly...I had the game on but was busy building my daughters closet...something about Jenkins.
Rosenthal said they were never even close.
I read on the Mets board that they are pushing Santana back to Friday so he will miss the Phils.
QuoteBrian Fuentes is expected to be put on waivers this week, a process that's not usually made public, let alone announced, so the Rockies must be keen to see if they can do better in a trade than the two first round draft picks they get by keeping Fuentes. According to Rosenthal, as things stand, the Dodgers currently have waiver priority. If they pass for salary reasons, the Phillies could be a roadblock for the Mets.
farg blocking the Mets; acquire Fuentes
Gillick needs to shore up that 8th inning spot.
Mets blow another lead and lose in 10 :yay
http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/blog/big_league_stew/post/Answer-Man-Cole-Hamels-talks-pink-apes-Survivo;_ylt=AoHf2xbj7epRszp_24WluV0RvLYF?urn=mlb,102858
That was painful to read.
Quote from: Rome on August 24, 2008, 05:04:12 PM
That was painful to read.
Inane. I want that two minutes of my life back.
Phillies are being no-hit through four.
Awesome.
That Jap did it to them last week too...I think through 7 last time
Manuel literally took Burrell out of the game so Taguchi could stand on first. Idiot.
Just when I think k-roll can't get any worse he proves me wrong. Good job here in the 10th by Durbin, bases jammed no outs. What a lucky ass double play.
Umpire at home called Manny out when Coste stepped on the plate, even though it was a force play. How can a society function when it's authority figures don't know what they are authoritizing over?
and howard gets picked off at first...and people wonder why we boo
why would you not squeeze with Vic on 3rd and Hamels up?
nevermind, Feliz bailed the clueless one out
Feliz Navidad
Quote from: MDS on August 24, 2008, 11:45:34 PM
Umpire at home called Manny out when Coste stepped on the plate, even though it was a force play. How can a society function when it's authority figures don't know what they are authoritizing over?
Just like the ball Rollins hit to 1st. It was foul and the HP ump should have made the call because the 1B ump's view was blocked.
Quote from: SunMo on August 25, 2008, 12:21:55 AM
why would you not squeeze with Vic on 3rd and Hamels up?
nevermind, Feliz bailed the clueless one out
Because it would be dumb. If he whiffs at the bunt then you lose Victorino...too many bad things could happen there. I feel better letting him swing away; Hamels usually makes decent contact.
Victorino has been the MVP lately. I love the way he's playing.
And Feliz was a pimp tonight.
Victorino is just a complete dick and a stupid person and player but damn is he playing out of his mind now.
The whole Dodgers Bullpen should be taken to the parking lot, lined up and shot...starting with Broxton and Kuo.
I hate this farging team sometimes. :boom
they have the top bullpen in the league and should've won
oh well....revenge for last week. Beat the DBags next week if you want the division title....
on that Manny play in the 10th......Coste tagged Manny out for the 2nd out. Did the home plate ump call him out without looking down to 3rd first?
Quote from: MDS on August 25, 2008, 12:36:56 AM
Victorino is just a complete dick and a stupid person and player but damn is he playing out of his mind now.
DId he shoot down your request to interview him while he was posing like Joselio Hanson?
Randy Miller has sand in his vadge...
QuotePat the Bat turned into Pat the Scat after the Phillies' 9-2 win over the Los Angeles Dodgers on Saturday.
I blogged the two previous days about what it's like to be working media in the Phillies clubhouse, and Pat Burrell's antics made it an easy decision to share the latest.
Burrell had a great day Saturday - three-run homer in the first inning, RBI double on a flyball lost in the sun in the fifth, run-scoring single in the sixth. The five ribbies tied his career-high, moving him past Bobby Abreu into seventh place on the Phils' career list. The homer gave him 30 for the fourth time and left him two shy of 250 for his career.
And this big day for Pat happened in a game nationally televised by FOX.
Afterward, Burrell did an interview for the network. I saw some of it waiting for an elevator ride from the press box to the clubhouse. He was in a good mood talking with Ken Rosenthal.
And then came the old disappearing act.
While waiting for manager Charlie Manuel to speak, I asked another reporter how long he thought we'd have to wait for Burrell.
"I bet it'll be 40 minutes," I said.
"Twenty minutes from the time Charlie is done talking," the reporter countered.
"Twenty minutes after Charlie?" I said. "That'll be 40 minutes after the game."
Another reporter chimed in:
"I say he won't talk at all"
Reporter No. 3 wins the prize.
When Charlie was done talking, we all headed to the clubhouse, and unlike the two previous nights, we pretty much had the pick of the litter on Saturday.
On Thursday, Jamie Moyer was the only Phillies player available in the first 35 minutes after a loss to Washington, and at that point many of the on-deadline scribes gave up and left to finish their stories. On Friday night, Kyle Kendrick and Chris Coste were the lone Phillies available for interviews in the first 40 minutes following a blowout win over Los Angeles.
But on Saturday, with the media not on deadline due to the 4:05 p.m., start time, and players wanting to leave the ballpark in a hurry, Ryan Howard, Cole Hamels, Coste, Shane Victorino and others were around almost immediately after the media entered the clubhouse.
When those players were done talking, the Burrell wait was on ... and then off.
One reporter noticed Burrell at his locker briefly, approached, then was told, "Gotta go, bro."
No Burrell on Saturday.
When I asked Phillies Public Relations official Greg Casterioto if this true and was Burrell wouldn't return, he confirmed the blowoff.
We shouldn't be surprised.
Earlier this year, a Phillies player approached me about this topic.
"How long has this been going on around here?" he asked. "This ain't right."
"For a few years, and it's getting worse," I responded.
I asked the player if he could do anything to help fix things. He shook his head no, then looked to Burrell's locker.
When Burrell talks to the media, he's cooperative and friendly for about two minutes, then he almost always abruptly ends the interview with a "Thanks, guys."
Burrell is in the final year of a $50-million contract. He's had good times and bad times in Philly, good seasons and bad seasons. He's earning his $14 million this year, as he's arguably been the Phillies' MVP. (I brought this up to Manuel on Saturday and he agreed).
But with a big paycheck comes responsibility and expectation to represent the organization in a positive way off the field. I'm not totally sure about on this, but I don't think Burrell ever has shown up for one of the Phillies' offseason functions, which includes a media luncheon and visit to area malls to sign autographs. And in the clubhouse, he's never been someone the media can count on, sometimes even after games where his comments are warranted. This may be overlooked by Phillies fans because Burrell is friendly with one of the Comcast SportsNet sportscasters and frequently grants that station interviews.
I think I have a pretty good feel for Burrell. We've been around each other since his rookie season in 2000 and have known each other since the Phillies drafted him first overall in 1998. We've had some good talks over the years, and he almost always makes a little time for me when I need him for a few questions.
But Burrell has gotten on me for being a tough reporter, sometimes in front of others. We never talked about it, but I heard he was really ticked when I took Billy Wagner's side in their feud.
Wagner was out to dinner with myself and a couple other reporters in spring training one year when Burrell walked into Villa Gallace. The next day, Wagner told me he was called a "rat" by Burrell for hanging out with writers. Wagner told me he responded by saying, "Maybe you should get to know these guys a little and they won't get on you as much."
Wagner also told me that Burrell was the reason so few Phillies players were available after games during his two years in Philadelphia. When a PR person would go to a backroom that was off-limits to the media and ask for someone to make themselves available, Burrell often would instruct the player to stay put, Wagner told me on many occasions
Randy Miller is a farging bitch.
Wahh wahh Pat is mean to me. Look, Burrell is a corksucker. He doesn't want to waste his time with the media. The Phillies either let him get away with it or fine him and he doesn't care. If I were him, I'd do the same.
It's the Phillies job to make their employees talk to the media, most guys aren't going to go do it on their own. Burrell clearly doesn't want to his waste his time talking to some fat, balding sportswriter when he could be out banging hot chicks and doing loads of blow. Good for him.
Generally athletes are just awful to interview. They tell you very little. Yes, it should be a responsibility for them, especially the good ones, to be accountable and talk after every game. But it's up to ownership is enforce it and make Burrell, Utley, Howard and Rollins stand by their lockers every game and answer question for 10-15 minutes. No doubt.
@ ed, the ump called Manny out when Coste stepped on the plate. Perhaps he didn't see Feliz tag third, or perhaps it was an instinct call to say he was out. How often do you see that play anyway?
Miller has always been a confrontational douche. He was the one who almost goaded Lofton into that fight a few years back. Lofton is a tool but so in Miller. And Marcus Hayes. He's friends with Billy Wagner.
It was good that Coste knew what was up and didn't throw down to 1st thinking it was a force at home or else Manny being Manny scores.
phillies organization is bush league from top to bottom...and like romey said the other day things will never change until some responsible visible ownership takes over
I turned the game off and went to sleep after Werth K'd in the 9th, thinking that if the Phillies pulled it out, I would have a nice surprise in the morning. Go team.
Wasn't Andy Tracy coming to bat? Did he draw a walk or something?
Quote from: FastFreddie on August 25, 2008, 08:41:31 AM
Wasn't Andy Tracy coming to bat? Did he draw a walk or something?
They walked him on 4 pitches, it was basically intentional so they could go righty/righty with Feliz coming to the plate
Ha! Good call, Torre.
I can't fathom how Broxton would pitch around someone who hasn't had a big league at bat since 2004. Perhaps he was pre-aware of the awesomeness that is Andy Tracy and didn't want to bother getting more proof of the fact?
I fell asleep during the 10th inning and never woke back up.
I hate working.
Quote from: MDS on August 25, 2008, 11:13:03 AM
I can't fathom how Broxton would pitch around someone who hasn't had a big league at bat since 2004. Perhaps he was pre-aware of the awesomeness that is Andy Tracy and didn't want to bother getting more proof of the fact?
Broxton is just a big piece of shtein on a piece of shtein team. farg them!
Broxton has a JLo ass.
Think I could feel the wind generated from ChokeDawg's strikeout here in Doylestown. He's pathetic to watch. I don't care about his HRs and RBIs, he is just absolutely maddening.
Rollins did something relevant for the first time in 2 weeks. I was listening to the game on my way home when he was hit by a pitch, LA said "you don't ever wanna see a player get hit but it's a good thing if you're Jimmy Rollins"
Brett Myers...stud.
I'll give this team credit for something....impeccable timing. I just got my bill for postseason tickets.
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on August 25, 2008, 09:18:31 PM
Brett Myers...stud.
I was ready to ask who the new pitcher wearing #39 was.
Myers is great... when he has his head on straight. Which isn't often enough. But I'll take it for now.
bring on the Mets :evil
Don't get cocky. These guys still suck.
They aren't as good as what you saw in may and june...and they aren't as bad as july and the opening of august. They are tied in the loss column with the division leader, and are currently 13 games over .500, granted if they were a powerhouse team, they would be 20 games over, and have a 8 to 10 game lead, but they arent. But they don't suck.
As inconsistent as the phils are...the mets are worse (and just lost Maine to injury).
I've maintained all along, they are good enough to win the division. And I think they will.
Fans in general grossly overreact during a baseball season. Even a terrible month can be recovered from.
why isnt igy telling me how the phillies will lose the division by 8 games or whatever nonsensical number he was spouting on about
this offense=fine.
that is incredibly accurate
i was right about burrell i was right about bourn i am right about pretty much everything.
just accept it and we will all get along much better from here on out. aint that right toddo?
I will say this, i defended Manuel last season because he kept the team playing hard...whatever worked for him to get the players motivated last season has worn thin this season.
The phils won't fire him, but unless they advance at least 1 series in the playoffs, he should be let go.
mpm is basically jesus with a small penis. never doubt him.
this is the kind of douchebags you have to live thru if you wanna go to phillie games these days
http://www.bustedcoverage.com/?p=6818
Pretty sure you can't swing a dead cat anywhere in the world and not hit people just like that especially at sporting events.
well i rarely see it at any games but the phils...however even if youre right times it by 1 million and you have a phillies game
I only go to Magic games and everyone there is swell. Oh, and all the women are hot too. So there.
I'd much rather watch the fight with the people in the car
SEAN TAYLOR
yea dude no. i mean its funny that he got shot in the dick and idiot racists fans cried about it like they lost a family member but you are beating this into the ground and it aint funny.
What did I just hear babble on DNL about Kotsay? I just turned it on to see "Interest in Kotsay"
???
Quote from: MDS on August 26, 2008, 05:07:04 PM
yea dude no. i mean its funny that he got shot in the dick and idiot racists fans cried about it like they lost a family member but you are beating this into the ground and it aint funny.
actually the way they reacted to it was hilarious.
i couldnt have planned it that well.
after someone said stab jon miller in the throat with an ice pick no less. i love self righteousness.
well thats just a nerdier version of philliesphans sometimes
pg the kotsay thing was a rumor. i guess hes better than dick tracy.
This game is starting off well. ::)
god choke is just so infuriating some times
Moyer is awful tonight
Quote from: BigEd76 on August 26, 2008, 07:59:05 PM
Moyer is awful tonight
worse than awful. Get him out after the next run. Please.
6-0 ouch. The runner on 3rd should have been out for interference. Moyer really shtein the bed tonight.
first bad outing in last 15 starts. poor timing with the crapiness but tough to complain about jamie.
Condrey double + Rollins HR
no really
Rollins is on fire. Great to see...6-6 the last two nights.
Pedro's wheels are coming off.
The Mets bullpen will have to pitch a lot. Good for the Phils...they will win this game.
Why is it that zesty players like Brian Schneider, Damien Easley and Fernando "put the needle in my ass" Tatis kill them?
CHOKE DAWG!
we got ourselves a game again
CHOKE YOSELF
Howard gone!
7-5 now
Come on, bullpen.
Keep these shteinbag, preening, dancing, steroid injecting, non-patriotic, spanish rice eatin' fargs off the scoreboard!
That's a lot of ing's there.
Yessir!
HUGE DP by Scott Eyre.
Come on boys, let's take the lead.
Wow huge DP there. Scott Eyre = most efficient signing since Russell Branyan.
METS BULLPEN!!
7-6 now, frontrunner is on fire
Utley is Feliciano's bitch
You figure after 30 something at bats he would be able to hit a fly ball against him
Ruiz is playing 3rd base :-D
all so bruntlett can pinch hit or something?
manuel seriously
Quote from: MDS on August 26, 2008, 10:40:25 PM
all so bruntlett can pinch hit or something?
manuel seriously
Bruntlett!
We should never question Charlie again
holy ish :-D
Werth scores from 1st on what should've been a single for most defenses and Bruntlett goes to 2nd
then Ruiz hits one up the middle and Reyes makes a great diving stop to save the game
The little douchebag saved their asses right there.
farger.
now manuel doesnt use romero for church and schnieder so madson can presumably go 2 innings
come on, aaron heilman is coming in!
Holy shtein Wheeler needs to SHUT. THE. farg. UP. about RAYAZZ.
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Die Hard has put on some weight.
you only see douchey facial hair like that out of mets fans
Neckbeards are all the rage in Queens.
Costey!
lol @ aaron heilman, god he is terrible
farging Burrell
awful. lead off double and 1-2-3-4 can't get it done. bad feelings comin out now.
All Rollins had to do was roll his hands over that pitch but he was trying to be the hero instead. Burrell gets gunned and then Howard grounds out.
Team baseball, baby. Catch it.
MVP! MVP! MVP!
(http://men.style.com/slideshows/mens/standalone/gq/fashion/1206/mets/00001f.jpg)
:-D
Hamels pinch-hitting.- :-D
Quote from: BigEd76 on August 26, 2008, 10:59:37 PM
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I think I have seen that guy with the same expression before.
Mets. Bullpen.
Bwahahaha
King is workin' Heilman.
farging scrubs
Horrendous.
JC vs Beltran/Delgado/Tatis
yikes
Not good...they have ample opportunities to end it and they can't do it. It's going to come back and kill them.
SON OF A BITCH END ALREADY
Phils LOB - 15
Mets LOB - 8
Phils w/ RISP...3/17
Choke flashing a little leather. :yay
END THIS NOW PLEASE!
Come on, Utley, stick your shoulder into that!
Heilman has to be near the end.
farging great Chase.
farging utley
Burrell 0-7 with 4 Ks
wow Burrell is just lost
Good grief, Burrell. 0-7...that is not a way to keep the Mets killer status.
Still not quite as bad as not being able to put the ball in play vs Feliciano.
In other news, Howard is attempting to prevent the mets from intentionally pitching around him. :boom
And Utley's AB was terrible. Swung at ball 4 twice.
Now Howard is fishing. Take the goddamn walk. Or jack a hanging slider over the wall.
And then he watches the ONLY pitch that was clearly a strike.
Or watch a slider letter high.
Aaron "Hindenberg" Heilman is shutting them down.
retards...all of them
Who's ready for RUDY!
With tomorrow night's starter Kendrick throwing.
Oh boy.
Come on Rudy.
Don't pretend you didn't think Endy was going yard there.
Rudy gettin it done
They need to end this farging thing
THE FLYIN HAWAIIAN!!!! HOLLA AT YA BOY DONHO
Going to be the bases loaded for the pitcher??
You pineapple loving motherfarger!!
IBB to Werth
They'll IBB Bruntlett
Myers in on deck now. The only other bench player is Blanton and Kendrick.
Holy shtein....they HAVE to get this done here.
Be a hero Brett!
Did anyone think that strike call was quite a bit outside, or am I just that tired?
It was definitely outside. That at bat was a tease. I was CLOSE to thinking the mets were THAT inept that they were going to walk in the winning run.
COSTE!!!
COSTE!!!
4-4 off the bench!!!
YES, YES, YES!!!!!!!
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!!
COSTEY!!!
farg THE METS!
Back in 1st
THANK Christ.
:evil :evil :evil :evil :evil :evil :evil :evil :evil :evil :evil :evil :evil :evil :evil :evil :evil :evil :evil :evil
farg the mets.
Have a good night everyone. :crazy
:yay
Cholly had Kendrick warming up to come in if it went to the 14th. Hopefully that doesn't screw him up (even more) against Santana tomorrow.
They'll lose 2-0 tomorrow night and Reyes is the worst human on Earth.[/IGY]
Jesus pretty much everything Cholly did was right. I mean the guy is just brutal with in-game management, but his decision to hold back Bruntlett and not let Myers swing worked. For once, he gets credit.
But yea what a game. So many things going on...damn. farg the Mets!
the only thing i said right away is, if you're not going to let Myers swing (rightfully so), why not just let Seanez stay in the game so that he can pitch another inning if needed
he clearly is incapable for going 2 innings for some unexplainable reason.
i found it stranger that jc didnt go 2, which he routinely did last year and i believe at some point this year
Quote from: MDS on August 27, 2008, 12:45:27 AM
he clearly is incapable for going 2 innings for some unexplainable reason.
i found it stranger that jc didnt go 2, which he routinely did last year and i believe at some point this year
I think they were holding JC out tonight. They had to use him because of the extras, but Mets announcers made it sound like he wasn't going to go tonight unless needed. So maybe he could only go one?
Quote from: SD_Eagle on August 27, 2008, 12:19:12 AM
THE FLYIN HAWAIIAN!! HOLLA AT YA BOY DONHO
Awesome! I was watching the updates on Baseball Tonight. Loved seeing that freak smokin' around the bases.
This team is going to kill me sooner or later,
Coste didn't come into the game until the 8th inning and still tied his career high in hits with 4 :-D
The Mets didn't score in innings 5 through 13 but Pedro Martinez blames the comeback and loss on this damn bandbox... :-D
It's also the 9th time the Mets lost a game they were leading in the 8th
Charlie told Brett not to swing...."see, you CAN follow orders!"
He also told him not to fake a suicide squeeze because Shane would be dumb enough to fall for it
Quote from: Rome on August 27, 2008, 12:33:53 AM
They'll lose 2-0 tomorrow night and Reyes is the worst human on Earth.[/IGY]
IGY doesn't post in this thread when the Phillies are winning.
The Phils won this game? Epic lulz.
Burrell alone left ten on base during his golden sombrero night. Maybe more surprising, no one else in the game on either team had more than two strikeouts.
Quote from: Munson on August 27, 2008, 04:21:04 AM
Quote from: Rome on August 27, 2008, 12:33:53 AM
They'll lose 2-0 tomorrow night and Reyes is the worst human on Earth.[/IGY]
IGY doesn't post in this thread when the Phillies are winning.
sorry delware white trashed out bastich child...but i dont post when the game is on tv or i am at it which has been the case for like five of the last six games...keep tryin tho...one day daddy will come home and he might even have that pony
BTW: I "agree" with IGY. Phillies are going to shtein the bed tonight. Watch.
they're going to be shut down by Johan Santana? way to go out on a limb there...
The Phillies could win 2-1 tonight. They wouldn't even score 2 against Oliver Perez.
The Phils are 2-1 in games started by Santana this season.
Quote from: Wingspan on August 27, 2008, 10:51:27 AM
The Phils are 2-1 in games started by Santana this season.
He's shut them down for the most part but their bp blew it.
I can see the bums doing one of their retarded acts by hitting Santana well then getting shut down by the Mets sorry ass bp.
Quote from: SD_Eagle on August 27, 2008, 10:55:46 AM
Quote from: Wingspan on August 27, 2008, 10:51:27 AM
The Phils are 2-1 in games started by Santana this season.
He's shut them down for the most part but their bp blew it.
Yeah, I know. I was pointing out that him pitching is not an automatic win for them since the rest of their staff is so weak.
pretty sure i said nothing about them being shut down tonight...not that id be surprised if it happens
Quote from: BigEd76 on August 27, 2008, 10:25:50 AM
they're going to be shut down by Johan Santana? way to go out on a limb there...
Didn't even know Santana was pitching. I was just going by past history there.
PS: farg you.
:-D
Quote from: ice grillin you on August 27, 2008, 08:18:14 AM
Quote from: Munson on August 27, 2008, 04:21:04 AM
Quote from: Rome on August 27, 2008, 12:33:53 AM
They'll lose 2-0 tomorrow night and Reyes is the worst human on Earth.[/IGY]
IGY doesn't post in this thread when the Phillies are winning.
sorry delware white trashed out bastich child...but i dont post when the game is on tv or i am at it which has been the case for like five of the last six games...keep tryin tho...one day daddy will come home and he might even have that pony
Yeah but you've had time to stop by and bitch and moan after a loss.
But I do love that the guy that probably goes out in oversized white T's, a straight brimmed hat worn to the side, and jorts that come down to his ankles, calls me white trash.
Try again, Jamal.
Per Hofman in the DN, Rollins said that the Mets little bitch ass dancing ignited the comeback. First time I've heard the say its bullshtein, but good to know they see the same shtein we do.
Jose Reyes and Fernando Tatis and Carlos Delgado acting like they won the series on routine shtein...keep it up
(http://men.style.com/slideshows/mens/standalone/gq/fashion/1206/mets/00003f.jpg)
this angers me more than his faggy dancing. what a god damn homo.
ew
Choke dawg eats Johans for breakfast.
freak ass werth does it too
Put up that pic of his husband again, Todd.
Quote from: PhillyGirl on August 27, 2008, 07:27:35 PM
ew
That was my wife's reaction, and she doesn't even care about the Mets.
Nice work with 2 on and no outs there.
Why did that icehole put Seanez in instead of Romero? JC only picthed one inning last night. And Lidge is borderline horrible in non-save situations.
I'm guessing Durbin is being held off for a supposed extra innings, so that's why Seanez was in there and then yea fargin Manuel
Yucky.
well smartly enough manuel is bringing in this carpenter person so lidge can go tomorrow. so hes done at least 1 thing right.
Kendrick pitched his usual non-spectacular but ok game. Props to the guy who isn't quite Kyle Lohse.
farging bums
Well, that was predictable. Net result of this week's NL East games: the Nats gained a game on everyone.
probably not a smart move to hold off durbin, but perhaps he wasnt available
but more importantly the offense quit after the second inning so yea farg them
oh well if cole acts like an ace itll be tied
Quote from: SD_Eagle on August 27, 2008, 10:55:46 AM
I can see the bums doing one of their retard acts by hitting Santana well then getting shut down by the Mets sorry ass bp.
I'll just pat myself on the back for calling this one
charlie really buttfarged this game in the ass. i said from the start of the 8th, you can't let Seanez pitch to Delgado. but no, the players love him, who cares how many games like this he blows
go back to vacation FAG
And I almost believed that Rudy was going to pull it out.
Delagdo's fist pump angers me. Hopefully he'll blow his knee out.
no but shane victorino's is okay
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on August 27, 2008, 11:55:57 PM
And I almost believed that Rudy was going to pull it out.
Delagdo's fist pump angers me. Hopefully he'll blow his knee out.
It doesn't anger me nearly as much as Reyes' antics. I want to hit that motherfarger in the face with a fungo bat.
Quote from: QB Eagles on August 27, 2008, 10:29:57 PM
Well, that was predictable. Net result of this week's NL East games: the Nats gained a game on everyone.
Yep... glad we could get so much resolved over the past 2 games.
no one asked you
One thing is clear: The Mets still blow seven run leads and choke away games they have no business blowing to the Phillies.
1 inning for Carpenter and he's outta here. Castro returns...
MIKE LAMB RUMORS HEATING UP HOLD ON TIGHT
Fidel's back and they'll have a sacrificial lamb! (booooooooooooooooooo!)
Vic knocks in a run; 1-0 Phils.
Quote from: MDS on August 28, 2008, 06:48:03 PM
MIKE LAMB RUMORS HEATING UP HOLD ON TIGHT
Is there any update? Please advise!
charlie manuel should be sodomized for bringing madsen in here
and now he brings durbin in, after madson has farged the game up already...what a terrible manager
madson and durbin need to die in a f'ing fire
farg this weak ass farging team, all of the die in a plane crash
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yeah, it's gillick's fault he hasn't fired this embarrassment of a manager yet
Quote from: Wingspan on August 28, 2008, 10:48:52 PM
(http://mlb.mlb.com/images/2005/11/02/VP2dkrei.jpg)
"Ha...ha...ha....you didnt really think I could turn this team around did you..ha...ha.."
.
Quote from: SunMo on August 28, 2008, 10:50:38 PM
yeah, it's gillick's fault he hasn't fired this embarrassment of a manager yet
pretty much
so, Romero is so tired that he has to be unavailable last night to pitch to Delgado
yet he's miraculously recovered so that ol' Cholly brings him into a 6-4 game they are losing?
farging moron
Your raging HATE MANUEL boner is ridiculous.
Tell me your plan for tonight, oh wise one?
oh, i don't know, let the kid who's throwing a gem pitch in the 8th inning?
nahhhh, that makes too much sense.
let me guess what charlie homer excuse #1 is..."but, but, but, he was at 100 pitches!"
pathetic
Boxscore says he was at 108.
It may be a different day and time, but Carlton would have been in there.
Who would you rather have on the mound: J.C. Romero, Chad Durbin or Cole Hamels?
It's a freakin' pennant race - screw the count. Colbert should have still been in that game.
2 late leads blow in a row. Not a good sign.
i said it immediately when they pinch hit for him in the top of the 8th. there was nobody on and 2 outs. i can see doing that if there are men on and you have a chance to get more runs. but as soon as manuel did that i said Cole should have gone into the 8th, considering the status of the bullpen lately with the 13 inning game.
I saw him at 108 too and I was thinking that the lead was safe. 4-1 with only the 8th to worry about. If he stays out there, a guy who has already pitched more this year than in any other year right?
Normally I think a pitch count is pussified...but I assumed he was done and the BP who had been so good the rest of the year could manage 3 outs in the 8th.
Ryan Madson has no balls. Giving up that HR and then getting hit around...terrible. And Durbin...jeez.
Terrible loss.
id be mad, but its like being mad at the dog for taking a piss on the carpet
http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/story/8501292/Sources:-Phils-get-Stairs-from-Blue-Jays
Matt Stairs, Phillies player
ALL YO PROBLEMS BE OVER MATTY STAIRS IN DA HOOOOOUSE
I fell asleep with Hamels dominating and a 4-1 lead and I wake up to this farging bullshtein?
Die.
Die.
Die.
Die.
Die.
nm
Blanton vs Harden in the battle of ex-A's pitchers. O/U on Harden Ks = 11
shocking....2-0 lead blown again....3-2 loss
NFL kickoff is Thursday.
Matt Stairs in uniform tomorrow!!
3 blown leads; 3 days.
Oh how I love them so.
I just read that Fidel was the guy dealt for Stairs. Not sure if its true though
Quote"I have all the confidence in the bullpen and I knew I wouldn't have been able to get the job done either," Hamels said. "Complete games are great and all that. But the complete games I threw even early in the season, they took a toll on me. I wasn't up to par two starts down the line, so I don't want that to effect me, especially this late in the season when every five days I go out and every game means something and I've got to be able to put in six, seven, eight quality innings where I can give the team an opportunity."
Stop quoting yourself, jackass.
No! Make me!
Von Hayes - the band (http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2/story?page=pearlman/080829)
QuoteThere's "Schu Schu Baby," an ode to former Phillies third baseman Rick Schu. There's "The Hawk," in honor of Andre Dawson, the 1987 NL MVP. There's "Jerry Mumphrey," a 13-second song that concerns Mumphrey's fabulous 1987 pinch hitting for the Cubs. ("Really," says Zitelli, "thirteen seconds is enough to tell the whole story."). There's even the Beatles-esque "Randy Ready" -- "No disrespect to Randy," says Zitelli of the .259 lifetime hitter, "but I wrote the song because his name fit in with one of the chords I was using. The guy was a pretty terrible player."
yea it was for fabio
stairs also has 1 mil comin to him next year, so maybe he hangs around as a bench player and periodic fill in for werth in rf.
today's game is on FOX for everyone except Baltimore and Tampa I think
Check that out, moron puts Romero in with 2 on and 0 outs in the 8th and he strikes out the side.
1-2-3 9th from Lidge and the Phils win :yay
so wait if they win tomorrow, they can easily head into the final mets series winners of 5 in a row and with a rested bullpen?
Mets lost; now only up by 1 again.
Missed the game but I see that Brett Myers threw well again. :yay
Zambrano was pushed back to Wednesday. The Phils will face Sean Marshall instead...
farg THE JOCKEY
Wasn't he wearing shades?
i dont know but jamie moyer is wearing his souderton special cap today
all hail pittsburgh south
i hate you
xoxoxox
@ my out of town baseball package people
is there a bigger dickhead than bob brenly?
chip carey
maybe
its close
they are both suicide inducing
atlanta, florida, dc, yankees, chi sox and seattle guys are terrible
scully isnt a fleshpop but hes brutal
texas, boston, san fran and mets are great
seashell necklace brah
why the farg is chad durbin batting right now
5-3, Madson coming in with the tying run at the plate
F
hold me easy
pretty sure manuel has a learning disability
Quote from: ice grillin you on August 31, 2008, 04:31:47 PM
@ my out of town baseball package people
is there a bigger dickhead than bob brenly?
i'd like to shove a puka shell necklace down brenly's throat.
oh happy day madson got an out
good job, panty boy strikes out soriano.
lights out just spit in the cubs face
his walk off the mound was so good...like it was too easy
Split in Chicago and 7-3 over their last 10. Not bad considering they haven't really played all that well. Easily could have won all 10 if moron could figure out what to do in the 8th.
Kendrick/Redding
Hamels/Lannan
Blanton/Odalis Perez
igy, you gonna be at those games?
I wanna give Brad Lidge a big ole hug.
Quote from: BigEd76 on August 31, 2008, 06:07:13 PM
Kendrick/Redding
Hamels/Lannan
Blanton/Odalis Perez
igy, you gonna be at those games?
The Nats have won 8 out their last 10. wowsa.
Eaton, Happ, Greg Golson and Lou Marson were called up
The GCL Phils (the only Phils minor league affiliate that will see playoff action) won the Gulf Coast League title today
Quote from: BigEd76 on August 31, 2008, 06:41:09 PM
Eaton, Happ, Greg Golson and Lou Marson were called up
One of these things is not like the other, one of these things just isn't the same
Golson?
(http://homepage.mac.com/kparlato/.Pictures/Fark/Cliches/waisis.gif)
Quote from: BigEd76 on August 31, 2008, 06:41:09 PM
Eaton, Happ, Greg Golson and Lou Marson were called up
The rest of the National League is quaking in their cleats.
Quote from: BigEd76 on August 31, 2008, 08:22:16 PM
Golson?
I was thinking more along the lines of Eaton. I think the other 3 can contribute.
Didn't see it mentioned and if it was blow me, but Kris Benson was released.
chances of hamels pitching that sunday night game against the mets?
1%. Can't mess with Cali kid's precious arm ::)
Meanwhile the Mets will give us Pelfrey/Pedro/Santana
god if they do not move up cole for that sunday nighter against santana i may kill dubee
Charlie needs to override Dubee on this one and move King up.
He cannot miss another series with those scumbags from up the turnpike.
charlie wanted cole to start the last one. the fact that santana is pitching that night compounds the need for cole to start that game.
From the pregame:
-- Burrell benched, Werth in LF, Stairs in RF
-- Hamels will be moved up to Sunday if he doesn't throw 130 pitches tomorrow night
-- Jason Donald might be called up later this week
-- Marson is wearing #3
Did they say why Burrell was benched? He's been sucking ass lately which begs the question why has he been hittin in the 3 hole. What channel is todays game on? It's not showing up on my program guide.
CW
it's just a day off for now, but he thinks he "can come in as a defensive replacement later" :-D
Kendrick is getting destroyed
Quote from: BigEd76 on August 31, 2008, 06:07:13 PM
Kendrick/Redding
Hamels/Lannan
Blanton/Odalis Perez
igy, you gonna be at those games?
im out of town but will def be at wed and possibly tomorrow
really glad im not at this one
happy day....Phils getting no-hit, down 6-0, and the Mets just came back to lead 4-2 off Roids Gagne
where is the pat burrell fan club leader
crickets
I am really tired of this team. Underachieving fargin dogs.
pathetic. phils cannot continue to lose to these jv clubs. 3 frickin hits. someone pleae tell the phils that today is a holiday for working people not for a bunch of hacks.
damm, phils suck.
Phils lose 7-4 and manage a whole 4 hits
2 games back
swell.
Not the way this whole Phils/Nats - Mets/Brewers thing is supposed to go.
This one is all on Kendrick today. He was horrible.
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on September 01, 2008, 06:55:00 PM
This one is all on Kendrick today. He was horrible.
Getting no-hit through the first five innings (when Redding didn't even have good control) didn't help either.
No, it did not. And generally I'll blame the offense. But Kendrick, especially in that 4-run inning just farging imploded.
just awful. they ph carlos ruiz with the bases loaded. die manuel die.
He already used up his bench except for Bruntlett, Marson and Golson by that point. Marson is a better hitter but I'm not sure if that's the spot to throw someone into his first AB...
friend got us hooked up with free front row seats behind the phils dugout tonight. i'm gonna hug burrell so hard.
Nice! Get on your cell phone and wave to the camera like everyone else.
Quote from: MDS on September 02, 2008, 12:46:44 AM
just awful. they ph carlos ruiz with the bases loaded. die manuel die.
I saw that....and turned it off.
Quote from: BigEd76 on September 02, 2008, 04:28:29 PM
Nice! Get on your cell phone and wave to the camera like everyone else.
If I ran the MLB I'd have sniper surveillance at every game, anyone caught doing that gets killed on spot.
Quote from: SD_Eagle on September 02, 2008, 05:10:36 PM
Quote from: BigEd76 on September 02, 2008, 04:28:29 PM
Nice! Get on your cell phone and wave to the camera like everyone else.
If I ran the MLB I'd have sniper surveillance at every game, anyone caught doing that gets killed on spot.
Good to see I'm not the only one who imagines those peoples head exploding into a red mist when they wave and stand up and attention whore themselves out.
Sike, I'm right behind the third base ball girl and some milf.
Utley just broke Flores' shin and ankle with his grit
1st & 3rd with two out, two runs in and Ryan Howard at bat and Utley tries to steal home.
Brilliant.
Fire everyone.
I had no beef with Utley going there. The round mound of Ronnie Belliard had to make a perfect throw.
I wonder if Utley will get thrown at tonight?
Utley trying to steal home with Howard at bat and a starting pitcher looking shaky after giving up four consecutive hits is utter retardation, Jay.
He's gritty!
What a pathetic boo Utley received, I realize there's only 5k in the stadium but grow some balls people. I'm pretty sure igy was the loudest.
Pretty sure Matty booed the loudest. Or vomited or something.
just saw phatty in the schmidt powder blue t-shirt...he looked sexy
i could have met matty at the phils/nats game i went to but ignoramous doesnt carry around a farging cell phone and neglected to tell me that. the chance of a lifetime...gone.
Using Lidge in the 9th inning of a 4-0 Nats game :yay
Pretty stupid move, but they do have a day off Thursday. Lidge can't be unavailable for the Mets series, so if they need him tomorrow, he's got to be used 5 out of 6 days.
Quote from: SunMo on September 02, 2008, 08:57:41 PM
just saw phatty in the schmidt powder blue t-shirt...he looked sexy
thought that was him
Hamels should be a definite go sunday night
Paid attendance was listed at 23,150.
Yeah right. Looked like maybe 15k in that joint.
DNL confirms Hamels is pitching Sunday night
Bruntlett...in RF tonight....starting.... :-D
Utley beaned 1st pitch. On the hip.
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on September 03, 2008, 06:51:55 PM
Bruntlett...in RF tonight....starting.... :-D
anyone's better than Stairs. Holy hell is awful.
Choke went deep with Utley on in the 1st. 2-0.
If the bums don't take at least 2 out of 3 from the Mets its time to start rooting against the Brewers
and fatty gives one right back
Fatty's gettin his shtein pushed in
what a great farging trade gillick
speaking of that trade, Outman made his ML debut last night
fat ass can't get an out in the 5th and now they're losing :boom
choke dawg w/ his 2nd 2-run HR
5-4 Phils
choke hit both bombs to pretty much the same spot.
madson throwin some mean shtein tonight.
once again the nats ballpark resembles a minor league park with roughly 10K in attendance.
Durbin comes in and blows the game again
KILL
2 of 3 to the f'ing Nationals?!
Cristian Guzman adds the exclamation point.
What a collective group of scumbag losers.
Worst loss of the season.
What a bunch of farging bums!
Thank farging god football starts tomorrow night
this team resembles a massive pile of shtein.
oh great, eaton warming up.
and of course they get 2 runs in the 9th and lose 9-7 :-D
Yikes. Dropping 2/3 to the Nats?
terrible. farging brutal. there is nothing to say.
Now they'll come back, sweep the mets and brew crew, then subsequently go 0-6 vs the Braves and Marlins to end the season and miss the playoffs.
It would be the only right way to end the season.
Quote from: BigEd76 on September 03, 2008, 08:55:51 PM
fat ass can't get an out in the 5th and now they're losing :boom
i said when they made the trade come the dog days you will not get innings from that load...
his last five games goes something like this 5,5,6,5,4
Quote
Bob Ford: Phillies played the shame game
By Bob Ford
Inquirer Sports Columnist
It isn't the sort of quote that will join the litany of misplaced words in the sporting history of this town. It won't rank up there with Terry Murray calling his Flyers a bunch of chokers, or Ricky Watters asking for the identity of the beneficiary had he extended himself to catch a difficult pass, or, certainly, with Allen Iverson reminding his audience that no one pays $100 a seat to watch rehearsal.
In this frustrating Phillies season, however, it is all we have.
We have only what team president Dave Montgomery said, long before the trade deadline, long before this race in the National League East became such a mud-wrestling contest between two drunken bears.
"Shame on us if we sit back and say, 'Everything is fine.' "
There is more to the quote, which Montgomery gave to the Daily News in a friendly sit-down before the all-star break, but that is the heart of it. The Phillies are a good team, maybe just a deep drive from great, and shame on the organization if it doesn't do what it takes to make that jump. The team is that close.
Well, here we are with 140 games gone, 22 to go, and there's nothing else to say but this: Shame on you guys.
Regardless of how the race in the division turns out - and the Phillies may yet pin the Mets in the muddy trough - the organization let down its players and fans by not doing enough to solidify the roster.
Forty-five of the 68 home dates on the schedule so far have been sellouts, already a franchise record. The support and the income have been there. And what have the fans received in return as they waited for the mortar that would fill the cracks in the roster? No offense to the players, because they are doing the best they can, but what the fans got was Joe Blanton, Scott Eyre and Matt Stairs.
Perhaps that isn't the front-office equivalent of sitting back and saying everything is fine, but it isn't far from it.
Should the Phillies get past the Mets - and starting the process tonight wouldn't be the worst idea - they probably aren't good enough to go very far in the playoffs. Just surviving a first-round series against the wild-card Milwaukee Brewers is unlikely. The Brewers, of course, have nothing to be ashamed of. They didn't sit back. They needed a real starting pitcher and made it happen. CC Sabathia is 9-0 with a 1.43 earned run average since his trade to Milwaukee.
Is it that simple? Not entirely, but the difference between Sabathia and Blanton might turn out to be the difference in the NL playoffs.
The puzzling part is that everyone assumed this would be the season of no holding back for lame-duck general manager Pat Gillick. Who wouldn't want the last lap to be a victory lap before he and his cabana clothes sailed off into the rayon sunset?
Gillick might have been expected to mortgage some future to make this a memorable farewell, and we were advised to hold onto our hats. Now it is past Labor Day, and our hats are still firmly in place and the tenuous nature of this ball club is still intact as well.
It isn't as if Gillick minds the prospect of leaving the cupboard bare as a necessity sometimes. Toronto won 95 games in 1993 under Gillick's stewardship, and he was out of there the next year. It took the Blue Jays until 1998 to have another winning season. Baltimore won 98 games in 1997. Gillick left the next year, and the Orioles haven't had a winning season since. The Mariners won, in succession, 91, 116, 93 and 93 games under Gillick before he decamped for Philadelphia. One winning season since in Seattle.
The Phillies have been steady under Gillick, winning 85 and 89 games in the last two seasons. In all likelihood, they will middle those numbers this year. Here's the question, as the general manager purportedly prepares to retire: What happened to our 95-win season?
It's a reasonable question. The answer, in part, is that the front office overrated the lineup coming out of spring training. There wasn't a replacement for Aaron Rowand's 89 RBIs or the ability to compensate for Jimmy Rollins' dip in power production. Once Pat Burrell cooled after an unusually hot start - he's hit .227 since June 16 - the offense did the same. The team is 35-36 since that same week.
The thin starting pitching was bolstered by an unbelievable stretch of competence from the bullpen, but that appears to be reaching its expiration date, too. And now the team is forced to skip Kyle Kendrick in the rotation and pitch the fragile and indispensable Cole Hamels out of turn. Two words: Uh oh.
A chance in time is an awful thing to waste. That appears to be where we are heading, though.
Three more words: Shame on them.
best bet i ever made, Phillies will not win the World Series, 100clams.... Cant wait to collect from my uncle.
yeah..but then you gotta store em, the smell, etc ...shtein..Id rather get money from him
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHHAAHAHAHAHAHAAHAAHA HHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAAHHAHAhahHAHAHAHAhAhahAhHAhA.
Ha.
I get it.
tad iguchi is back
Iguchi is the X factor.
God Burrell is brutal.
he was great in april and july, awful in may and august and mediocre in june. so...odds say hes gonna be better down the stretch?
It's like Russian Roulette, but less fun.
Quote from: MDS on September 05, 2008, 07:38:16 PM
he was great in april and july, awful in may and august and mediocre in june. so...odds say hes gonna be better down the stretch?
hes been 0-87 since bean stated he was right about him and that the offense was fine
myers is farging rolling
yea there is no doubt he has been brutal.
also tough shtein coming up cause the game tomorrow will be rained out. theyll probably go day-night on sunday, so moyer and king will be fine, but that means kendrick has to start monday and that happ has to fill in on thursday.
pelfrey depresses me so bad...hes finally coming into his own and is turning ionto the pitcher everyone thought he would be and is gonna be an ace for the forseeable future...hes also saved their season this year
santana pelfrey for the next five years is a cryable thought
hamels myers should dry those tears!
that play in a nut shell is the difference btwn 07 and 08 phillies
aint nothin but a g thang?
the wreck of the edmund fitzgerald
is it possible for you to get any whiter?
move to souderton
Myers stellar again tonight. Too bad he wasn't like this all season.
souderton = 12.6% black
price georges county = 66% black
north philly = 100% black
i win son.
I rode the train into the city on Saturday. Being on a train at Temple University station made me feel icky close to both IGY and MDS at the same time.
By the way, there were about 15 white kids at the station and no black ones. Just saying.
OHMIGOD
anyway phils 3 outs away from a solid win. myers just might be the 2nd half mvp.
Lidge trying to kill us by making it "interesting." Just get the damn outs, Brad.
i was just saying he has had more than a few of those this year but as long as he puts em down im all good...of course that means his first blown save will be on the last weekend against the nats to miss the playoffs
dude finds a way to get the job done. but yea, odds are hes gonna blow one soon and of course itll be that last week.
on the bright side, i did some nerd projections and chances are no matter what happens myers, hamels and moyer will pitch 6 of the final 7 games.
id did some predictions once that hamels would face the mets twice in two series....he faced them none
Rained out today
2:15 tomorrow for the first game (still Moyer/Martinez)
god i want them to win that game...hamels santana sunday night in ny for the division lead would be amazing...losing tomorrow afternoon would be a huge letdown...souderton raise up
it wouldnt be for the division lead, they would just even things up.
they would be tied for the division lead...the phillies are currently in second...it most definitely is for the lead as far as the phillies are concerned
Myers is currently the ace. I hated him the first half of the season but he's 6-1 since coming back, his era is under 2, and he's had 4 straight games of 8 ks or more. The Mets are the toughest team in the nl to k and he had 10 lastnight. Playing the optimist I can't see Moyer having two bad outings in a row vs. the Mets, and Hamels can dominate. I actually feel better about this series being in NY, there's less pressure on the bums to not farg up. With all that said, as long as they win 1 tomorrow they're in good shape.
Quote from: BigEd76 on September 06, 2008, 01:28:35 PM
Rained out today
2:15 tomorrow for the first game (still Moyer/Martinez)
52" split screen for the win
Quote"Guys,
One pitch, one at-bat, one play, one situation, think 'small' and 'big' things result. Tough at-bats, stay up the middle with men on base, whatever it takes to keep the line moving. Hot offense. 27 outs on defense. The Mets know you're better than they are. They remember last year. You guys are never out of the game. Welcome the challenge that confronts you this weekend. You guys are the best.
Good luck,
#20."
Schmitty's e-mail to the team this weekend. Delgado was crying about it.
Sweep these flags tomorrow!
QuoteWhile the Mets could not hit Myers, they could sit and chew on the words from Schmidt and Rollins.
Schmidt sent a note to the Phillies to pump up the team before the game. In the e-mail, which was posted on the clubhouse door, he wrote, "The Mets know you're better than they are. They remember last year."
Oh, really?
"Did Gary Carter send us one?" Mets closer Billy Wagner said to the Associated Press.
Jimmy Rollins, who has been Public Enemy No. 1 among Mets fans since he correctly called the Phillies as the team to beat in the NL East in 2007, said he read just the first few lines from Schmidt's e-mail. He said he didn't read the part about the Mets.
"No, what did he say?" Rollins asked.
The Mets know that you're better than they are.
"Oh, well, that part is true," Rollins said.
Oh, it is definitely on.
Phillies up 2-0 on a Stairs sac fly and Ruiz 2-out single
Brewers losing 5-0
Quote from: BigEd76 on September 07, 2008, 02:53:09 PM
Phillies up 2-0 on a Stairs sac fly and Ruiz 2-out single
LOL, that might be the first and ONLY time that sentence will EVER be said. :-D
lineup for tonight should be
rollins
iguchi
werth
burrell
victorino
feliz
coste
cervanek
hamels
LOL funny lineup.
DOBBSY!
LOL.
6-0
Moyer has a 1-hitter through 6 and the only hit was a fat-ass catcher bunt
everyone back in for now?
Eyre tried to blow it but got out of the 8th
Madson gets 1 out and JC gets a DP.........Phils win 6-2 and go for the sweep tonight :yay
Let's go King Cole, cap a three for three today.
nm
a win tonight would finish off the weekend sweetly! that being said :paranoid
farg yeah! Howard RBI single
was that farg yea in reference to you crackin open an ice cold bud light lime johnny cakes?
haha
no it was to Ryan Howard's RBI single against Johan Santana...but the Bud Lime jokes are still hilarious
lol
i love it
gonna be a long year
Uncle Cholly's been tossed.
cole hamels in big games
so cal = soft
booooooooo
Wright was out at 3rd
Cole ain't the king no more
isnt this ace supposed to shut the door here?
Quote from: MDS on September 07, 2008, 08:46:39 PM
isnt this ace supposed to shut the door here?
Is Brett Myers pitching tonight?
Mr. Clutch Ryan Howard is trying to win this game. No one else seems to give a shtein.
And Cole gave it right back.
Motherfarg!
I'll take 2 out of 3, but it's disappointing when a sweep was possible
always fun to have the ace shtein his pants in big games.
Wonderful job tonight! :yay
Quote from: MDS on September 07, 2008, 11:07:10 PM
always fun to have the ace shtein his pants in big games.
this
now we know why they hold him out of big series
last year in the two big games he pitched when healthy, he was lights out against the senators and not good enough against the rockies.
farging baby.
the home stretch...
Phillies. . . . . Mets
Marlins. . . . . .Off
Marlins. . . . . .Nationals
Marlins. . . . . .Nationals
Brewers. . . . . Off
Brewers. . . . . Braves
Brewers. . . . . Braves
Brewers. . . . . Braves
Off . . . . . . . . at Washington
at Braves. . . . at Washington
at Braves. . . at Washington
at Braves. . . at Washington
at Marlins. . .at Braves
at Marlins. . .at Braves
at Marlins. . .at Braves
Braves. . . . .Cubs
Braves. . . . .Cubs
Braves. . . . .Cubs
Off. . . . . . . .Cubs
Nationals. . . Marlins
Nationals. . . .Marlins
Nationals. . . .Marlins
Hopefully, the Cubs still have a reason to play.
Then again, if they don't, it could mean a wild card possibility.
Problem is, I don't see the Mets losing any more than 2-3 games outside of that Cubs series.
gotta figure the no days off between thurs and the end of the seaso will break their terrible bullpen
Quote from: FastFreddie on September 08, 2008, 12:40:51 PM
Hopefully, the Cubs still have a reason to play.
Then again, if they don't, it could mean a wild card possibility.
Problem is, I don't see the Mets losing any more than 2-3 games outside of that Cubs series.
its essentially the same schedule cept the phils have the brewers and the mets have the cubs
i like the phils off day right before the final series which will allow them to set their rotation up pretty much how they want and should prevent bitch hamels from having to possibly pitch on short rest
Quote from: ice grillin you on September 08, 2008, 12:47:39 PM
its essentially the same schedule cept the phils have the brewers and the mets have the cubs
Three against the fish are going to be a little trickier than three against the Nats.
maybe
but in the last 30 games
nats 17-13
fish 12-18
Yeah, but the Nats played more against the Phillies, who suck.
Looks like a fun night
Phils score 2, Blanton gives up 2
Phils score 3, Blanton gives up 2
....and it's only the 3rd inning
way to humid for fatty to go tonight
the "innings eater" goes only 5 again
Durbin comes in and........they're still winning for now
Rumors on the 2009 schedule already:
-- open the season at home vs the Braves
-- July 4 vs the Mets
-- only one September series vs the Mets (at home)
-- end the season at home vs the Astros and Marlins
-- interleague = home-and-home w/ Blue Jays, with the Orioles and Red Sox coming here while the Phils go to New York and Tampa Bay ROME
Bums up 8-6 in the 9th, Marlins have runners at the corners with 1 out. Lidge strikes the next two batters out on 6 pitches. Game.
Ol' friend Helms does what he does....Ks at a bad pitch
then Cantu Ks swinging
half games ftw
and Blanton gets the win :-D
Season's over.
Time to move on.
Milwaukee up 4-2 in the 9th after Dave Bush pitched 8 innings
Torres comes in and gives up 3 runs :yay
3 out in the wildcard
those Romes from boston come here AGAIN
250,000th HR in baseball history was hit tonight.
Gio Gonzalez gave up 249,998, 249,999 and 250,000.
Quote from: MDS on September 08, 2008, 11:33:49 PM
those Romes from boston come here AGAIN
once the phils lost the orioles to the nats as their "rival" the red sox replaced them...so you will now see them every year as long as inter league play continues...disgusting
yea but why cant the phils go there so there is an excuse to go bunkin with rusty
theres no excuse needed for that
My doors are always open to all non-Todds.
IN. I will bring a warm 24-pack of Miller Lite cans for you and an ice-cold sixer of Bud Light Lime for me and Sunny to share.
Oh god what have I done...
there is a 0% chance Rusty ever denies me a place to crash. Dude wants a little brother like igy wants to suck david simons dick.
3-0 already.
Get Kendrick out.
can someone please put kyle kendrick out of his farging misery
why they didnt start happ here is beyond me. dubee has generally done a decent job but when it comes to mechanics but decisions like this hes always too conservative.
carlos corrasco throws strikes and no one knows his stuff. if you need an spot start why in the farg cant be more effective than this slop.
Why does this pitching staff always give up hits to other pitchers?
I swear they give up one every two games or so. Way too many!
4-1 on a Volstad double and a Ramirez double.
BOOOOOOOOOOOO. >:(
wow great job phillies coaching staff letting this jackass start again. go team.
He follows it up with a walk. farg him. Start Happ for the rest of the season.
Cantu 3 run jack. 7-1 :-D
farg you Charlie you dumb shtein
And they left him IN and he gave up a 3R bomb to that pimple faced Mexican.
farg YOU iceholeS!!!!!!
What a lame dick decision.
farg.
well thats farging great. manuel and dubee cost them a game by running this fargface out there again. i hope they are happy.
agree with all
kendrick should have been in AAA a month and a half ago yet they run him out there in a pennant race...simply amazing
i hope he never pitches for them again and charlie is managing him in the independant league next year
i believe dubee makes that call, so its really on him. sure charlie could over rule him, but either way, both get the blame for this.
bullshtein the pitching coach lets the manager know who can and cant go whos ready and who isnt and the manager makes the call....thats baseball 101
then why did dubee rule out hamels from being moved for the first mets series
because he may have said cole shouldnt go he isnt feeling good or his arm is tired and charlie made the call that he was out
so maybe tonight he said happ couldnt go...but if he says both kendrick and happ are ready charlies decides who hes going with and how he wants his rotation to set up in the coming games
i remember happ warming up i think sunday night in pen so maybe that answers the question
either way terrible decision. manuel gets the blame because he is the manager, but hes not getting fired so lalalalalala
Phils make a semi run and get it o 9-4...
and that little bald headed flag Cody Ross goes deep.
10-4
Luckily the Nats are winning
They are going to win this game...
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on September 09, 2008, 09:17:40 PM
They are going to win this game...
Your hope will be the end of you, sir.
CHASE UTLEY.... MVP! MVP! MVP!
10-8 :paranoid
Yes, that indeed was the score when Chase was at the plate with runners on 2nd and 3rd.
It is still the score, I believe.
Kendrick really needs to go at this point.
Oh, and I saw an actual championship game tonight - the Daytona Cubs won the FSL title. It took me 28 years but I finally saw another team win a title in person. Yay me.
Slackers.
2.5 out and 3 in the loss column.
Hopefully Milwaukee keeps on choking.
choke dawg hits another....1-0 in the 2nd
the offense is fine and so is pat burrell
where the farg is beane
yay....3 outs away from losing 2 out of 3 at home to the Marlins and falling further back
Goddamn bullpen.
6-3 Fishies.
BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
same old phillies...they really did need the biggest collapse in baseball history to even make the playoffs once in the last 15 years....farging dogs...lets go sixers
Helms gets another one in.
7-3.
This is sick to watch. Although the Marlins are the worst team to play now because they can hit well.
farging loser ass phils.
lol @ durbin
stand pat!
wes helms officially ends our season.
I wont call it dead yet. But if they don't sweep the brewers it pretty much is.
durbin was a great acquisition....chuckles burned him out...otherwise hes been money all year
Quote from: ice grillin you on September 10, 2008, 06:56:03 PM
durbin was a great acquisition....chuckles burned him out...otherwise hes been money all year
This excuse for Durbin is getting old. He didn't looked burned out when he got a DP right after the hit. He just has to pitch better.
hes not that good. its on gillick for not getting a better rhp and on him for not getting a lhp until late so jc is now cooked.
They've cooked my brain. farging bums.
Has utley had a hit with a runner in scoring position since the all star break?
Probably not.
He's been terrible.
4 games back in the loss column for both the Mets and Brewers
and now the Astros are tied with them
(http://www.singaporesoxfan.com/images/francona_wade.jpg)
yeah thats embarrassing...and also an indication that no matter who is the gm here they will never be successful until new ownership arrives...
its absolutely worthless to ever criticize a phillie gm because whatever grade you give them has to be done on a huge scale
ha farging chuckles blaming the fans for the teams zestyness
Quote from: ice grillin you on September 11, 2008, 08:14:15 AM
its absolutely worthless to ever criticize a phillie gm because whatever grade you give them has to be done on a huge scale
That statement was valid 5 years ago, not now.
They have one of the higher payrolls in the league. the ineptness stems from the lame duck GM ignoring a weakness...or just not going out and making this team better when they were treading water with a division lead. The phils chose to start the season with Adam Eaton, Tom Gordon, Ryan Madson, and Chad Durbin in their bullpen.
The offense collapsed under the strikeouts of choke dawg in the first 3 months of the season, and now due to the total lack of any kind of clutch hit from choked dog since the all star break.
The ownership is non existent, and really a non factor right now as far as money goes. This season is on the back of the crap fed to us by the GM, and the total lack of focus of the $50M infield. The GM ignored the fact that they needed another top starter, and tried to sell us on Tom Gordon, and Ryan Madson again... they threw in Chad Durbin, but he can not pitch under any kind of pressure...just like Madson.
farg em.
You don't lose two of three to the marlins and nationals and expect any sympathy of the fans.
Oh...and charlie should be fired on the spot for that comment on the fans. It won't happen, but it should. The team has shown nothing but contempt all season, I don't expect that to change in the next two week.
i hate choke dog more than anyone but utley has been worse this year and for that matter burrell as well
you can criticize a gm on the phillies for indivuidual moves particularly in the offseason before they hit their budget mark...but as for in season moves and specifically trade deadline deals thats all on the ownership because they determine who can be aquired and who cant...they also effect those moves because of the lack of spending on the farm system which is what allows you to go out and have the ammo to get a sabathia...theres also the issue of the phillies not wanting to bring up people like carrasco because they dont wanna waste service years so instead you gotta throw out people like kyle kendrick and ja happ in a pennant race
imo gillick can be destroyed for a move like garcia but you can never truly blame any phillie gm for not making moves to put the team over the top because the ownership is not willing to go over the top to win
Quote from: ice grillin you on September 11, 2008, 09:53:30 AM
i hate choke dog more than anyone but utley has been worse this year and for that matter burrell as well
choke dawg = ryan howard
choked dog = chase utley
Quote from: ice grillin you on September 11, 2008, 09:53:30 AM
i hate choke dog more than anyone but utley has been worse this year and for that matter burrell as well
Agreed, aside from his fast start Utley has been average which isn't good enough if you want to hit in the 3 hole and want to be considered the best player in the league at your position. Burrell is a 1/2 year guy. His 1/2 year happened to come in the first half this season.
As far as blaming ownership they're not the ones that traded for Blanton over Harden, signed Eaton, Barajas, Helms, Jenkins, and traded for Garcia. Gillick seems to operate better with small budget players like Werth, Dobbs, Durbin, etc. than he does when he actually has money to spend. He's been a horrid GM and I can't wait till he leaves. And lets save the "wait till Amaro gets in office" comments till he's actually hired.
even so are Phillie fans really supposed to be believers because Amaro steps in...or any GM for that matter?
all of these GM's hired are puppets under greedy, un-enthusiastic owners that are padding their slacks pockets every year.
Sure, Amaro or whoever can make little moves here and there, but it will take coin to take bring in "real" players to change the dynamics of this team and win the World Series, and that is something a new GM will have no control over regardless
yup...the gm of this team will forever remain irrelevant until new ownership comes in
and the Phillies team as a whole we be irrelevant until Matt Stairs steps up and proves he can be the leader of this team
Quote from: reese125 on September 11, 2008, 11:44:24 AM
and the Phillies team as a whole we be irrelevant until Matt Stairs steps up and proves he can be the leader of this team
I laughed, but I don't think you should read too much into it.
Quote from: ice grillin you on September 11, 2008, 09:06:50 AM
ha farging chuckles blaming the fans for the teams zestyness
:-D yeah, it's all our fault.
i have officially had it with these clowns for the year. do these morons player/staff/FO have any idea what the city and fans have been through? Jesus H. Christ. The fans continue to show up every year and this is what they get in return? I don't get it.
i have to admit I was really proud of the fans when they gave Meyers the standing ovation when he left in the 8th yesterday. act like an icehole, play like a putz and you're going to hear it. Play hard and you'll hear it. is it that hard to figure out?
The Phillies have been averaging 97.2% of capacity at The Bank this year. Yep - blame the fans. All 42,280 who are there each and every night watching those underachieving bumbling corksuckers piss away another playoff opportunity.
what did chuckles say that was so bad, havas?
Choke is officially on fire. Too bad it's just him and Werth. Bums up 2-0
might i also add that prince fielder is so much fatter than joe blanton
vegetarian huh. maybe dipped in icing
Suicide squeeze to bring in Victorino!
i would feel better if the fatty and kendric/happ werent the last two pitchers of this series
The coin flips were held for any tiebreakers. The Phils would host any matchup (Mets, Brewers, Astros or Cardinals)...
Quote from: MDS on September 11, 2008, 09:57:03 PM
i would feel better if the fatty and kendric/happ werent the last two pitchers of this series
supposed to be hot and humid this weekend...if we could just get fall here the phils wouldnt be so bad off with fatty
TMac for 9 innings on FOX today
Anyone that was supposed to get Tigers/White Sox is getting this game instead (rained out)
Phils up 2-0, still no outs
....now 3-0, 1 out
The Phillies/Brewers were scheduled again and I get the Mets/Braves instead. I farging hate living in this shteinhole state.
choke dawg puts em up 5-0 after 2
f'ing Mandel trying to get our hopes up about Sabathia (http://philadelphia.phillies.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20080913&content_id=3467647&vkey=news_phi&fext=.jsp&c_id=phi) :boom
Phils win 7-3 and are now 2 games back of both the Mets and Brewers :yay
Season's over. Time to move on.
Quote from: Rome on September 13, 2008, 07:41:26 PM
Season's over. Time to move on.
May as well watch, Romey. What else is there to do between Sundays?
Drink and fornicate.
He didn't specify his partner.
tonight's game will be shown on CW locally but won't appear on Extra Innings because of ESPN
$100000 says Fatty Blatty doesn't make it past the fourth inning in this heat.
sweat box
triple
popup
2-run HR
Blanton
CHOKE CBP BOMB HAHA
gotta give fatty his propers today
the next time you wanna bash Charlie, just look at Ned Yost :-D
Quote from: BigEd76 on September 14, 2008, 04:00:06 PM
the next time you wanna bash Charlie, just look at Ned Yost :-D
the old fat ned yost is bringing in lidge AGAIN in a non save spot, with a game left to play.
charlie makes ned yost look like sparky anderson
what a friggin buffoon
why the farg is lidge in again
well ya like ya know a 4 run lead is almost like a save.
7 pitches for the last 2 outs....he's still OK for tonight
Meanwhile at Shea.... :-D
manuel always tries to win the game at hand and worry about the next one when it comes.
hes stupid.
farg these iceholes for keeping the hope alive!
4-0 Phils :yay
Ed what channel is this game on?
CW
it's not on Extra Innings and I don't think it's on MLBTV...not sure
Pat adds a HR....5-0
loaded w/ 2 outs for Werth right now....
....and he works a 4-pitch walk. 6-0, loaded for Utley. Suppan is done
game is not on mlb.com. audio only,
shame....you guys missed one hell of a start by Myers
3 days rest and he's through 8 with no signs of fatigue, up 6-1
BROOMS
Phils win 6-1
Myers goes a complete game on 3 days rest and throws less than 95 pitches
Tied for the wildcard and 1 game behind the Mets
Magic number = 13
these next 12 games will be the death of me.
What Myers has been able to accomplish since his stint in the minors is nothing short of amazing. Howard is absolutely unreal right now. It's crunch time and he's coming up huge.
CBP was rockin in the beginning, hi ho bandbox ahoy
Quote from: MDS on September 14, 2008, 11:32:14 PM
CBP was rockin in the beginning, hi ho bandbox ahoy
damm frontrunners.
Season's over. Time to move on.
mon...off
tue....@atl (moyer)
wed...@atl (kendrick/happ/eaton)
thu...@atl (hamels)
fri...@fla (myers)
sat...@fla (blanton)
sun...@fla (moyer)
mon...atl (kendrick/happ/eaton)
tue...atl (hamels)
wed...atl (myers)
thu...off
fri...dc (moyer)
sat...dc (blanton)
sun...dc (hamels)
If they take 4 of 6 from Atlanta and 2 of 3 from the Nats, they should be able to lose 2 of 3 to Florida and still make the playoffs.
Winning any 7 of the next 12 should be enough, considering the way the Brewers and Astros are playing, which means they will win 6 and miss the playoffs by a game.
iceholes.
what if they win seven but its a specific seven not just "any" seven
do they still make it?
phi- off, 3 @ atl, 3 @ fla, 3 vs. atl, off, 3 vs. dc
mil- off, 3 @ chc, 3 @ cin, off, 3 vs. pit, 3 vs. chc (sabathia and sheets 3 more starts each)
hou- 1 vs. chc, 3 @ fla, 3 @ pit, off, 3 vs. cin, 3 vs. atl, 1 vs. chc (if it needs to be played) (oswalt 3 more starts)
nym- 4 @ dc, 3 @ atl, 4 vs. chc, 3 vs. fla (santana 3 more starts, including last game of season)
phillies have the worst schedule simply because the cubs will have nothing to play for in the majority of their remaining games and will only be worrying about the playoffs
phillies have all their games against division rivals that would love nothing more than to knock them out
there really is no reason why they should lose any of those games to atlanta or dc, both those teams are beyond putrid.
Quote from: ice grillin you on September 15, 2008, 11:39:39 AM
phillies have the worst schedule simply because the cubs will have nothing to play for in the majority of their remaining games and will only be worrying about the playoffs
phillies have all their games against division rivals that would love nothing more than to knock them out
And wouldn't the cubs and reds and pirates want to see the same thing happen to the brewers then?
No wai.
How about this scenario:
-- Phils go 2-1 at Atlanta; NY goes 2-2 at Washington => Phils are .5 back
-- Phils go 1-2 at Florida; NY goes 1-2 at Atlanta => Phils are .5 back
-- Phils go 2-1 vs Atlanta; NY goes 2-2 vs Chicago => Phils and Mets are tied (and we're exactly where we were last year)
-- Phils go 2-1 vs Washington (again); NY goes 1-2 vs Florida (again) => Phils win by 1 game (again) :yay
Quote from: Wingspan on September 15, 2008, 11:46:16 AM
Quote from: ice grillin you on September 15, 2008, 11:39:39 AM
phillies have the worst schedule simply because the cubs will have nothing to play for in the majority of their remaining games and will only be worrying about the playoffs
phillies have all their games against division rivals that would love nothing more than to knock them out
And wouldn't the cubs and reds and pirates want to see the same thing happen to the brewers then?
cubs could care less and they are the x factor here as they play all the other teams except the phillies...they will be sitting players as the playoffs are more important to them than beating the brewers or mets
reds and pirates technically are the same to the brewers as the braves and fish are to the phils except the rivalries in that division are not the same as in the nl east
im not saying the phils have some murderous schedule compared to everyone else but theirs is slightly tougher because they dont get to play against the cubs bench like the other teams do
ask the Cardinals if the Pirates gave up on the season
cubs magic number is 7 for the division, so in the least, they will be playing out these next 4 games. if the phils keep winning, they can extend the cubs clinching homefield into the mets series, so theyll have something to play for.
the division may be a stretch but the wild card you gotta definitely favor the phils
you can favor them because of how hot they are right now...or because you think they are the best team regardless...but you cant favor them on the schedule
maybe.
but on paper the philles shouldnt lose more than 3 games and that should be good enough to get them into the playoffs.
they're gonna lose at least 2 in Florida
Quote from: BigEd76 on September 15, 2008, 12:35:33 PM
they're gonna lose at least 2 in Florida
i totally agree with this...and it wouldnt shock me if they lost two to the nats
It wouldn't shock me if they went 0-12, and it would only shock me slightly more if they went 12-0.
according to yahoo chuckles is playing his lhp lineup against a rhp
lefties don't have a hit against him yet (0-14)
so Rollins singles to start the game
what a large sample size
>:( Durbin :boom
typical. mets losing, brewers losing and of course phils losing.
here we go. two more weeks of this shtein.
atta boy pat! shtein.
HOWARD!
CHOKE MUTHAfargIN DOG!!
League MVP right now, farg Delgado.
Burrell with the Platinum Yamika
Definitely a murmur of support for Dawg for MVP. I still think Pujols gets it, though.
Damn, Coste just missed an RBI double by inches.
Burrell is lost right now. Mid-season, he'd get a few days to work out the mental kinks. Can't afford them in September, though. Hate to think of this being his swan song as a Phil, but it may be fititng.
Back in 1st place
Damn Lidge makes you sweat them out
Quote from: SD_Eagle on September 16, 2008, 10:53:49 PM
Back in 1st place
Damn Lidge makes you sweat them out
Yeah, I really didn't need the drama, but he got it done.
Good win.
Choke is on fire & Durbin is a mess right now.
Bullpen at this points looks like Madson, Eyre and Lidge. Romero and Durbin are cooked.
Brewers lost too
magic number = 11 for a playoff spot and 12 for the division title
Has anyone seen Pat Burrell the last two months?
Choke is doing this by himself with a little bit of Werth, Rollins and Vic thrown in.
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on September 17, 2008, 12:10:12 AM
Has anyone seen Pat Burrell the last two months?
Choke is doing this by himself with a little bit of Werth, Rollins and Vic thrown in.
Burrell is hiding inside the hole in his swing.
Goddamn it. I fell asleep in the seventh and missed the ending. Howard is unconscious right now. Good Lord. Just keep winning, idiots. Nothing more, nothing less.
Quote from: Rome on September 15, 2008, 04:54:12 AM
Season's over. Time to move on.
Quote from: Rome on September 17, 2008, 06:48:16 AM
Goddamn it. I fell asleep in the seventh and missed the ending. Howard is unconscious right now. Good Lord. Just keep winning, idiots. Nothing more, nothing less.
Your body is following your own advice and has moved on.
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on September 17, 2008, 12:10:12 AM
Has anyone seen Pat Burrell the last two months?
lets ask billy beane....what a colassal moron
it was pretty sweet at nats stadium last night, i saw the phils score change right as david wright was striking out. almost the exact second.
jesus choke is out of his mind right now. if the phils win the nl east hes got to be the mvp.
never liked the guy never will....not sure what youre getting at
He's saying you hate the black peoples.
IGY loves black peoples more than black peoples love black peoples.
igy hates people who hit 50 homers and knock in 150 runs
2009 schedule (http://philadelphia.phillies.mlb.com/schedule/index.jsp?c_id=phi&m=4&y=2009)
Anything less than 9-0 to start, and I'll be really pissed.
thats the 4th opening day home opener in a row. the last time they opened on the road was when CBP wasnt quite ready yet.
Quote from: FastFreddie on September 17, 2008, 02:44:31 PM
Anything less than 9-0 to start, and I'll be really pissed.
Plan on having an unhappy April.
yankee stadium weekend about a week after i hopefully graduate. IN.
Happ's having a decent outing, might as well stick with him for the rest of the season since he's still an unknown. Kendrick was 1-4 with an 11.82 era in his last 6 starts.
they probably would have the division wrapped up already if they had dumped kendrick when they should have
happ at 86 pitches but chuckles the clown pulls him so he can dip into that terrific middle relief he has.
happ hasnt pitched much his arm probably isnt up for 100+ pitches tonight
i have no problem taking him out there with a 4 run lead and six outs to go
i dont see why they couldnt just get him if he put 2 guys on or something. its not like the braves are good or anything.
i mean they could have and it wouldnt have been a terrible move i just dont think you can kill charlie for taking him out either
well considering he brought in chad durbin....
Condrey blew the SO....kill him.
wow....Brewers up 6-2 with 2 outs in the 9th and lost in extra innings. Phils magic number is now 9.
Hampton replaced Jo-Jo Reyes tonight
I'm glad the Brewers lost for obvious reasons but listening to Ron Santo acting like a high school cheerleader on XM is about as painful as it gets. He's the worst homer I've ever heard. I mean EVER.
what an ace cole is. phils get him 2 and he gives 1 back with 2 outs. Hoyda.
Quote from: Rome on September 18, 2008, 07:32:15 PM
I'm glad the Brewers lost for obvious reasons but listening to Ron Santo acting like a high school cheerleader on XM is about as painful as it gets. He's the worst homer I've ever heard. I mean EVER.
Yeah, he's not an analyst, he's a cheerleader. Makes Spadaro look like a negadelphian.
Quote from: Rome on September 18, 2008, 07:32:15 PM
I'm glad the Brewers lost for obvious reasons but listening to Ron Santo acting like a high school cheerleader on XM is about as painful as it gets. He's the worst homer I've ever heard. I mean EVER.
Worst homer I ever heard was former Houston Rockets t.v. announcer Calvin Murphy. He was ridiculous to the point that I used to wish bad things would happen to him. He had this taunting in your face laugh that made me throw shtein at the screen. Imagine the vindication I felt when he was accused of molesting his 5 daughters. Not to mention it came out in court he has 14 children with 9 different women. Who's laughing now bitch.
so burrell wakes up and hits a homer and the "ace" lumbers through 6 innings again. way to be an ace, Hoyda.
Quote from: SD_Eagle on September 18, 2008, 08:31:59 PM
Quote from: Rome on September 18, 2008, 07:32:15 PM
I'm glad the Brewers lost for obvious reasons but listening to Ron Santo acting like a high school cheerleader on XM is about as painful as it gets. He's the worst homer I've ever heard. I mean EVER.
Worst homer I ever heard was former Houston Rockets t.v. announcer Calvin Murphy. He was ridiculous to the point that I used to wish bad things would happen to him. He had this taunting in your face laugh that made me throw shtein at the screen. Imagine the vindication I felt when he was accused of molesting his 5 daughters. Not to mention it came out in court he has 14 children with 9 different women. Who's laughing now bitch.
and he was one helluva baton twirler ;)
Quote from: MDS on September 18, 2008, 09:01:05 PM
so burrell wakes up and hits a homer and the "ace" lumbers through 6 innings again. way to be an ace, Hoyda.
I think he picked the wrong time to get dead arm. His stuff just doesn't have the normal bite.
Phils flat out gave Atlanta a run back.
Quote from: MDS on September 18, 2008, 09:01:05 PM
so burrell wakes up and hits a homer and the "ace" lumbers through 6 innings again. way to be an ace, Hoyda.
just had that conversation with don jr. on the way home from school when we got the updated score at 2-2 in ths sixth. my son said "hammels is so overrated for being the ace of the staff". proud of my boy.
dead arm is a lame excuse. the guy wants to get paid like an ace, he gets paid for going 8 innings in late september. farging Hoyda gets his vagina all sandy in these games and always gives them an average start.
nice insurance runs there boys. idiots.
Quote from: MDS on September 18, 2008, 09:26:51 PM
dead arm is a lame excuse. the guy wants to get paid like an ace, he gets paid for going 8 innings in late september. farging Hoyda gets his vagina all sandy in these games and always gives them an average start.
And I think that he managed to gut out 6IP, 2 ER, without his best stuff and left the Phils with a 4-2 lead.
Take some midol, stick in a tampon and stop bitching. It's just not warranted tonight.
hes supposed to have his best stuff now. the fact that he doesnt says all you need to know about so cal surfer douches who call themselves aces.
Quote from: MDS on September 18, 2008, 09:41:00 PM
hes supposed to have his best stuff now. the fact that he doesnt says all you need to know about so cal surfer douches who call themselves aces.
(http://farm1.static.flickr.com/61/181739492_0bf2c367b5.jpg?v=0)
lidge. sphincter test.
uuhhh uuuhhhh uhhhh uhhh uhhhh uhhhhh tomahawk chop. please STFU!
Quote from: MDS on September 18, 2008, 09:41:00 PM
hes supposed to have his best stuff now. the fact that he doesnt says all you need to know about so cal surfer douches who call themselves aces.
And yet his ERA for both August (2.61) and September (2.89) is below his season average (3.11). With a modcum of run support, he'd have 7 or 8 wins in the two months instead of 4 (hopefully 5 at the end of tonight).
The one troubling sign is that he's become more hittable in September. His pitches are up and his stuff isn't as nasty. And yet he's managed to gut his way through games and keep the Phils in it (except the Mets game).
He's at 220 innings with tonight's game, which is 40 over the last two years, and probably light years beyond what he's pitched in the minors.
EDIT: Brad Lidge shuts the door - Hamels now 3-1 in September. What a Hoyda.
ugh geo if you cant see the difference between what brett myers did and giving up 2 runs over 6 innings to atlanta then i dont know buddy
beautiful lidge! nothing better than seeing chippah swing and miss to end the ball game.
me so happy!
Quote from: MDS on September 18, 2008, 09:55:37 PM
ugh geo if you cant see the difference between what brett myers did and giving up 2 runs over 6 innings to atlanta then i dont know buddy
Oh my goodness, Hamels didn't strike out 12 and throw a one-hitter tonight. Burn him at the stake.
No, he hasn't had his best stuff in the past few games. And yet, in all but one of those games, he's pitched his way through the games to give his team a chance to win. 3-1 in September. Less than 3.00 ERA.
NO one has his best stuff all the time. Not Clemens (roids or not), not Steve Carlton, not Walter Johnson. The best pitchers - the aces - are the pitchers who manage to win when they don't have their best stuff. And Hamels has done that.
I'm very impressed with Myers the past few months. But if his stuff goes south, he basically has no shot at winning (see 5.00+ ERA before the all-star break).
Phils have a 7-game winning streak and the Marlins have an 8-game winning streak. They put up 22 on the Wades the last two nights and won't go away....
Marlins scare the shtein out of me. this series scares me real bad.
Season's over. Time to move on.
PS: I think I'm going to the game tomorrow. I can't afford it, but farg it.
Quote from: Rome on September 19, 2008, 05:39:53 AM
Season's over. Time to move on.
PS: I think I'm going to the game tomorrow. I can't afford it, but farg it.
I'm considering a Saturday excursion. Probably can't afford the gas, but I'm thinking of it anyway.
Won't have a problem getting tickets, thats for sure.
The Fish scare me too.....just don't get swept, Phils.
phils can get swept and still at most only be a half game out of the wild card
they are IN the playoffs....just a matter of the division now
im going next weekend, im almost sure they will lose
so has anyone heard back about the playoff ticket lottery? thought it was supposed to be yesterday.
Quote from: ice grillin you on September 19, 2008, 09:43:14 AMphils can get swept and still at most only be a half game out of the wild card
If the Brewers sweep the Reds, the Phils would be 1 game out. I don't think either one will happen, but...
I sincerely hope the Phillies stomp the life out of the Fish. I don't expect it to happen but a sweep would be nice.
I also have a bad feeling about the last nine games of the season but that's just a reminder of the last 28 years of failure talking.
between myers and moyer youd figure theyd be capable of winning 1 game. maybe.
florida is gonna rake moyer...the phils are gonna lose at least two of three no question....but even if they get swept they are in fine shape
moyer is like 9-1 in his career against fla. myers has been pitching out of his mind. id say 1/3 with one of those being a close, terrible loss.
none of those guys have faced them as hot as they are now...their lineup is out of its mind...i could see myers neutralizing them if he has his best stuff but moyer is gonna get rocked
The Phillies will clearly win precisely 1.4 of the next 3 games.
phillies = 9 games left: 1/3 @ fla, 3/3 vs. atl, 2/3 vs. dc....92 wins
mess = 10 games left: 2/3 @ atl, 2/4 vs. chc, 2/3 vs. fla...91 wins
brew = 9 games left: 1/3 @ cin, 2/3 vs. pit, 2/3 vs. chc....89 wins
hell i could be over-doing the mess by a win or two.
if they are still in it brewers will sweep the cubs last weekend...cubs will have nothing to play for and will want the brewers in the playoffs over the mets or phillies thus they will have their des moines lineup in
its possible both the brewers and mess could wind up with 90 wins, setting up an ultimate choke-off for the nl wildcard.
Quote from: MDS on September 19, 2008, 11:36:28 AM
its possible both the brewers and mess could wind up with 90 wins, setting up an ultimate choke-off for the nl wildcard.
Get yo popcorn ready for that.
So, how would the first round look if the Mets win the wild card and Phillies win the division? The Phillies would have 3 home games against the Dodgers, and the Cubs would have 3 against the Mets?
yes
divisonal foes can not meet in first round (stupidest rule ever)
the divison winners are then seeded by wins
wild card plays the best non divisional opponent
kudos the phillies for being destroyed in the season series against the mets, so if the two are tied for the nl east and wild card lead, the mets win the nl east and the phillies get the cubs in round 1.
tonight
brett myers @ jason johnson
oliver perez @ jo jo reyes
jeff suppan @ ramon ramirez
Per ESPN's Jerry Crasnick:
Quote• If the National League managers and coaches are paying attention, Philadelphia's Chase Utley should win his first Gold Glove this year. Utley has a plus-44 rating under John Dewan's "The Fielding Bible" plus-minus system. A zero is considered neutral. Oakland's Mark Ellis is a distant second to Utley among big league second basemen with a plus-24.
I got vetoed for the game tomorrow night.
:win
pusssie
Haha. In more ways than one, soul brotha #1.
I don't even care about a baseball game but that's pretty weak.
ha....Rome's gonna miss the postgame concert with the lead singer of Foreigner
(they're also giving away those annoying maracas)
Nice...bums already up 2-0 in the 1st. Fish are making some piss poor errors.
Of course the bums already give 1 run back.
Cinci's up on the Brewers 3-0 in the 1st
now 5-0
bums now losing 3-2...4 straight hits from the Marlins...still no outs. Myers is reverting back to first half form.
Unfortunately it looks like April and May's Myers took the hill tonight rather than August.
3-2 Marlins now, none out in the 1st.
5-2 lol
Still 0 outs
Dobbs HR.....5-3
CHOKE DAWG!!! 6-5 Phils.
AAAAAAAAYYYYHHHHHRRIIIIIIIGGHHHTTTT!
Quote from: FastFreddie on September 19, 2008, 08:39:56 PM
CHOKE DAWG! 6-5 Phils.
The Marlins announcers are still whining about the ball call on the borderline-low pitch.
Marlins announcers suck Cuban cock all night long. farg them.
Quote from: Geowhizzer on September 19, 2008, 08:42:22 PM
Quote from: FastFreddie on September 19, 2008, 08:39:56 PM
CHOKE DAWG! 6-5 Phils.
The Marlins announcers are still whining about the ball call on the borderline-low pitch.
yeah, and all 400 Marlin fans in attendance booed as howard circled the bases.
don't you have mlb.com? they just upgraded it so you can now chose which broadcast you wish to listen to.
Conine is in the booth there and he's pretty good. The PBP guy was whining about the low pitch and Conine half heatedly agreed with him, but you could tell he knew it was low.
Anyways...Cameron Maybin is looking like a player.
Quote from: Don Ho on September 19, 2008, 08:45:02 PM
Quote from: Geowhizzer on September 19, 2008, 08:42:22 PM
Quote from: FastFreddie on September 19, 2008, 08:39:56 PM
CHOKE DAWG! 6-5 Phils.
The Marlins announcers are still whining about the ball call on the borderline-low pitch.
yeah, and all 400 Marlin fans in attendance booed as howard circled the bases.
don't you have mlb.com? they just upgraded it so you can now chose which broadcast you wish to listen to.
No, I have EI on DirectTV, and it wouldn't matter anyway, because I'm in the Marlins' blackout area. It's their guys or nothing (and many times it's nothing).
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on September 19, 2008, 08:45:26 PM
Conine is in the booth there and he's pretty good. The PBP guy was whining about the low pitch and Conine half heatedly agreed with him, but you could tell he knew it was low.
Anyways...Cameron Maybin is looking like a player.
The PBP guy is former Phil Tommy Hutton.
He's not in booth tonight, Geo.
And Jorge Cantu, whom I hate, ties it up.
GODDAMN!!!!
BIG MASSIVE F WORD!
Marlins take the lead.
farg!
These sorry iceholes can flat out hit.
This Maroone call to the bullpen stuff makes me want to kill someone.
get this bitch out of here. shtein. thanks meyers. settled in my ass.
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on September 19, 2008, 08:55:17 PM
Marlins take the lead.
farg!
These sorry iceholes can flat out hit.
This Maroone call to the bullpen stuff makes me want to kill someone.
How are not the Marlins in first place? Their lineup should make up for any shortcomings on the mound. They're loaded.
We'll see why they aren't in first when the Phils rake their bullpen and their defense can't catch shtein. They suck in those two areas.
Now it is 8-6.
Yeah..no Hanley = good, right?
Wrong. Amezaga's little bitchass goes yard for a 3R bomb.
11-6.
fargING BUMS!
Rudy! Rudy! Rudy!
i can't even phatom putting seanez out there in a playoff situation. he'd make losche look like Nolan Ryan.
now we're coming back ::)
like i said earlier marlins offense is insane....we can now look for a sweep this weekend...just gotta root against the mets and brewers...phils are cooked against this team
kendrick! yipee!
this marlins team is going to make things very interesting - like to the final day, final inning, final out.
I hope a sue-nam-mee makes your life very interesting.
PS: Shut up.
Love, Drunk Romey.
Quote from: ice grillin you on September 19, 2008, 09:48:32 PM
like i said earlier marlins offense is insane....we can now look for a sweep this weekend...just gotta root against the mets and brewers...phils are cooked against this team
Shut the farg up, Duke lover
Quote from: Rome on September 19, 2008, 11:36:40 PM
I hope a sue-nam-mee makes your life very interesting.
PS: Shut up.
Love, Drunk Romey.
give me a few hours to get shtein faced and i'll think of a comeback.
Love, Sober Don
who the farg is cameron maybin
QuotePhillies manager Charlie Manuel described the interplay thusly: Early on, he noticed the Marlins' first- and third-base coaches' straying outside their respective boxes. Worried that they could be stealing signs, Manuel conferred with the umpires between innings and asked them to keep the Marlins coaches inside the coaching boxes.
Florida, apparently annoyed at the request, responded by asking the umpires to require Myers to cover up his tattoo, citing it as a distraction to the Marlins hitters hitters.
Wahhh....Hoyda Fish.
Quote from: MDS on September 20, 2008, 11:27:02 AM
who the farg is cameron maybin
the Tigers' top prospect that came to Florida in the Cabrera/Willis trade
Brewers/Reds on FOX today. We're in the 9% of the country (along with Milwaukee and Ohio) getting that game. Everyone else gets Cardinals/Cubs or Twins/Rays...
Sabathia gives up 3 runs to Micah Owings and a no-name. 4-2 Reds after 6
Brewers lose.
I just noticed the Marlins have won nine straight. Christ.
Quote from: FastFreddie on September 20, 2008, 07:35:23 PM
Brewers lose.
I just noticed the Marlins have won nine straight. Christ.
If the Marlins could execute the fundamentals, the Phils and Mets would be solely fighting for the wildcard. The Fish have hands down the most potent lineup in the division, and a good, but young, starting rotation.
Rollins just took strike three for the second straight time - this time with none out and a man on third. :boom
Cantu was safe by a mile at home plate. This home plate ump sucks.
Quote from: SD_Eagle on September 20, 2008, 10:01:48 PM
Cantu was safe by a mile at home plate. This home plate ump sucks.
Not sure about by a mile, but he did look like the foot definitely got in there first.
Madson gets an assist from the ump on that call and manages to survive the inning.
rollins 0-4. time to do something. idiot trys to bunt. swell.
did the home plate ump get in the chest and the head?
what nerve ass racking game. listening to baseball in the car does you no good.
almost as bad as checking your cell phone for updates on the sidelines during juniors game.
win. shut it, havas.
beautiful!
Nice win. Back in 1st.
chances are that locked the phillies into the playoffs. 3 up on the brewers, and most likely they only lose 2 more games this year, maybe 3. so in the least they can go to chicago and get swept.
Gut check win. Good stuff, although I expected them to blow it at any second.
Let's see if Gramps can fluster those dead red fastball cats tomorrow.
I just farted.
65.2% chance of winning the East
32.3% of winning the WC
97.5% chance at making the playoffs
Someone's got to say it, but I won't be the one....
what, you're a redneck?
No. The fact that you spent the day staring at naked college football players wishing they'd run a train on you.
We're not allowed in the locker room so it's all in my head, kiddo.
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on September 20, 2008, 11:50:20 PM
Someone's got to say it, but I won't be the one....
Season's over. Time to move on.
Brewers won, Mets bullpen blew another lead, and the Phils are up 3-0 after 5
durbin strikes again.
this farging bullpen is pathetic.
excellent. let the fun begin this week.
Quote from: ice grillin you on September 19, 2008, 09:48:32 PM
like i said earlier marlins offense is insane....we can now look for a sweep this weekend...just gotta root against the mets and brewers...phils are cooked against this team
Because I like bustin balls:
Quote from: ice grillin you on September 19, 2008, 09:48:32 PM
like i said earlier marlins offense is insane....we can now look for a sweep this weekend...just gotta root against the mets and brewers...phils are cooked against this team
Quote from: ice grillin you on September 19, 2008, 09:50:25 PM
not even a small chance the eagles win this game
pimp is shut down and maybe out for the first time
and the steelers d bodies the birds
21-6 pittsburgh
Quote from: ice grillin you on September 19, 2008, 11:04:16 AMflorida is gonna rake moyer...the phils are gonna lose at least two of three no question
I can't talk ish though because I thought they'd lose 2 of 3 (and they probably should have)...
Magic number of 4 for a playoff spot and 6 for the division
he wont come and eat his crow. the mans ego is bigger than his collection of throw-back jerseys.
Pedro Mothafarging Feliz!
Whats the word on Dobbs?
Quote from: Don Ho on September 22, 2008, 04:12:33 AM
Whats the word on Dobbs?
According to the Inky's game report (http://www.philly.com/philly/sports/phillies/20080921_Phils_win_to_pad_lead_in_NL_East.html), he's fine. Left because of a cramp in his calf.
SHOW YO FACE HAVAS
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on September 19, 2008, 08:45:26 PM
Conine is in the booth there and he's pretty good. The PBP guy was whining about the low pitch and Conine half heatedly agreed with him, but you could tell he knew it was low.
Anyways...Cameron Maybin is looking like a player.
he got called up? i just saw him play last month in a minor league game, i thought it was only double-A. anyway, he killed it in the game i was at too, went like 4-5 with a HR and a few SBs.
he was like 12 for 13 and killed the Phils on Friday then struck out 8 of his next 9 ABs this weekend
Saturday's game got moved up to FOX 4pm
Lou Williams threw out the first pitch tonight. The Braves are going with their AAA lineup :yay
loooooooooooooooooooooou
Quote from: BigEd76 on September 22, 2008, 06:57:26 PM
Saturday's game got moved up to FOX 4pm
don jr. can catch a cab to his game Saturday morning.
the mess just went ahead 2-1 bottom 3
the flyers broadcast is the in arena sound. They put up the score of the phils game and you would have thought they won the world series. Good shtein
tied up in flushing!
marquis with a granny...lol
:-D
f'ing hilarious
Mets not even waiting for the bullpen to implode.
Just showed some schmuck Mets fan in the Phils game.
beautiful cubs! i keep switching over to mlb.com mosaic just to hear ron darling and keith hernandez ramble on.
7-2!!
cubs are going balistic in this inning. seven hits.
Nelson Figueroa in to save the season for the Mets...
great
hi, we're the Phillies. We aren't winning right now....
i just crapped my shorts.
that shot of wheels just cheered me up :fire
lol @ igy not even owning up to his god awful predictions
Have no fear, Rudy Seanez is here!
well this sucks
Quote from: MDS on September 22, 2008, 08:55:39 PM
lol @ igy not even owning up to his god awful predictions
omg theres 162 baeball games and i didnt get them all right
do we really need to make posts whenever any of us get a prediction wrong...altho im willing to do it...please tell me we dont...
J-ROLL! Nice throw to the plate.
Great throw by Jimmy and way to block the plate there Chooch. Vamanos!
his release on that throw was sick quick
Quote from: ice grillin you on September 22, 2008, 09:01:23 PM
Quote from: MDS on September 22, 2008, 08:55:39 PM
lol @ igy not even owning up to his god awful predictions
omg theres 162 baeball games and i didnt get them all right
do we really need to make posts whenever any of us get a prediction wrong...altho im willing to do it...please tell me we dont...
we still cool?
like a polar bears toenails
so brad lidges vagina wont let him pitch in a key game in september?
first time this season charlie manuels pinch running decisions actually made a difference?
HORRIBLE block by the Braves catcher. :-D
Wheels is SO over Maybin now omg bff
I thought no way Golson was safe but the replay proved the ump made a good call
wow, thought he was out until that replay. ump got it right.
Quote from: SD_Eagle on September 22, 2008, 09:19:48 PM
I thought no way Golson was safe but the replay proved the ump made a good call
He should have been nailed, but the catcher had his foot ON home plate rather than in front of it (blocking), then took damn near forever making the tag.
The pitcher did his job, the third baseman his. That run is on the catcher (with a big assist from Golson's speed).
Dawg just missed that one.
Patricia!
Quote from: SD_Eagle on September 22, 2008, 09:27:26 PM
Patricia!
I was just going to type that.
He didn't miss that.
Pat kills the save opportunity for Madson :P
Quote from: BigEd76 on September 22, 2008, 09:28:06 PM
Pat kills the save opportunity for Madson :P
Hater.
(And thank God for that! I'm out of Tums.)
oh look theyre beating a terrible team
have i ever mentioned how much i cant stomach chris wheeler?
Quote from: MDS on September 22, 2008, 09:29:32 PM
oh look theyre beating a terrible team
Just like Penn State on Saturday.
Quote from: Geowhizzer on September 22, 2008, 09:30:32 PM
Quote from: MDS on September 22, 2008, 09:29:32 PM
oh look theyre beating a terrible team
Just like Penn State on Saturday.
I was just about to type that. Must be a full moon tonight.
Quote from: ice grillin you on September 22, 2008, 09:30:14 PM
have i ever mentioned how much i cant stomach chris wheeler?
The real question is who do YOU think would win in a race, Victorino or Golson? Wheels thinks Golson.
Quote from: SD_Eagle on September 22, 2008, 09:33:00 PM
The real question is who do YOU think would win in a race, Victorino or Golson? Wheels thinks Golson.
that would be some race
oh god time for instant replay
2.5 games up unless the Mets come back
Quote from: SD_Eagle on September 22, 2008, 09:43:06 PM
2.5 games up unless the Mets come back
They're working on it.
listening to darling and hernandez makes me we want to cut myself with sharp objects.
Quote from: Don Ho on September 22, 2008, 10:10:14 PM
listening to darling and hernandez makes me we want to cut myself with sharp objects.
It was interesting, though, to hear them talk about the Mets' choking of last year (and gag reflex this year) for nearly the entire 8th inning.
Mets lose 9-5. Magic number = 3 for a playoff spot and 4 for the division title
and the Mets are only 1 game ahead of the Brewers...
king
wife beater
fatty
old man
king
CHOKE
Quote from: Geowhizzer on September 22, 2008, 10:19:03 PM
Quote from: Don Ho on September 22, 2008, 10:10:14 PM
listening to darling and hernandez makes me we want to cut myself with sharp objects.
It was interesting, though, to hear them talk about the Mets' choking of last year (and gag reflex this year) for nearly the entire 8th inning.
i think both of them are excellent...especially darling...which is funny because i thought darling was basically unlistenable when he announced for the nationals...he literally improved 1000 fold over one winter
Season's over. Time to move on.
Quote from: Rome on March 30, 2008, 09:39:44 AMI got 91-71 and a wild card birth. And I also think the Mets are going to fold like a motherfarger again.
heres hoping that number 71 doesn't come true
Quote from: FastFreddie on March 30, 2008, 04:12:38 PM
This team is about two injuries away from a major pitching disaster.
86 wins. Possible wild-card, but probably not.
Well, I was right that they probably won't win the wild-card.
if baseball games were only eight innings, the Mets would be 6.5 games up on the phillies
http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/columns/story?columnist=stark_jayson&page=pennantpulse/080922 (http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/columns/story?columnist=stark_jayson&page=pennantpulse/080922)
Saturdays game moved up to 3:55pm by Fox, and the weather forecast is a rainout. I'll be going to this, my brother in law is going to the Flyers game at the spectrum and then to this, i hate him
any going to the temple-western michigan game at the linc?
thats funny
pretty amazing joe kerrigan interview on wip right now
bill conlin wrote a story a couple weeks ago how gavin floyd would look great in the rotation right now...in the piece he reported that the phils front office blamed joe kerrigan for it
so kerrigan is on now saying how he emailed bill conlin and asked who it was attributed to...so conlin forwards an email he recieved from ruben amaro where amaro in the email in response to the floyd fiasco says one person and one person only is to blame and i quote "joe farging kerrigan"...
kerrigan then goes on to talk about how he had gavin floyd for exactly four starts...and talks about how he emailed amaro to tell him he didnt appreciate using that kind of language in front of his family name...
pretty interesting stuff
amaro is a fleshpophead, he will hated 10000x more than wade
pretty sure he's the next GM
Quote from: ice grillin you on September 23, 2008, 04:37:39 PM
pretty amazing joe kerrigan interview on wip right now
bill conlin wrote a story a couple weeks ago how gavin floyd would look great in the rotation right now...in the piece he reported that the phils front office blamed joe kerrigan for it
so kerrigan is on now saying how he emailed bill conlin and asked who it was attributed to...so conlin forwards an email he recieved from ruben amaro where amaro in the email in response to the floyd fiasco says one person and one person only is to blame and i quote "joe farging kerrigan"...
kerrigan then goes on to talk about how he had gavin floyd for exactly four starts...and talks about how he emailed amaro to tell him he didnt appreciate using that kind of language in front of his family name...
pretty interesting stuff
Wow. And my hatred for Amaro continues to grow.
Olney had a chat today where he said a few times, hinted actually, that Cashman would be the Phils next GM if he doesn't re-sign with NY.
Olney has been sucking Cashmans noob for years, so he would know.
Quote from: Die-Hard on April 19, 2008, 07:34:23 PM
I highly doubt that what happened last year will ever happen again - let alone to the same team in back to back years with the same team benefiting.
through 5 innings of a brutally boring game, the Braves lead 2-1
the Mets are tied 2-2 and the Brewers are losing 3-2
2-1 Braves after five. Phils offense is making Hampton look like, well, Mike Hampton of 10 years ago.
Mets are tied with the Cubs, and the Pirates just took a lead over the Brewers.
I hope the Brewers find a way to back in to the playoffs. The Phillies should kick their asses.
more score updates from around the league please....because anyone that would be on a message board probably doesnt have access to a website with scores
The Eagles won on Sunday 15-6.
Now it's 3-1 Braves.
Come on King. farg.
Quote from: ice grillin you on September 23, 2008, 08:46:18 PM
more score updates from around the league please....because anyone that would be on a message board probably doesnt have access to a website with scores
You are mean like Viet Cong.
and 3-2 Mets
what a dumb farg
so basically burrell is choke but with less power and worse baserunning?
Victorino just single-handedly ruined a potentially great inning. Idiot.
6-2 Gaggers thanks to the gayest fag on Earth.
Hamels has thrown another million pitches tonight.
Rollins swings on a 3-0 pitch = 3rd out.
I mean, really. 3-0 and that idiot is swinging? Are they trying to farg it up now? Is that it?
Christ.
Easy what's the score?
Hitler 6,000,000
Jews Coming To Bat
I miss seeing John Rocker on the mound for the Braves
guaranteed victorino swings at the first pitch.
gonzalez stuff is so filthy
wtf was that maui boy?
you gotta farging swing at the fastball when you get a ahead of this guy...farging feliz just looked a perfect one all the way in
way to go Chooch.
farging bums.
BOO BOO BOO fargING BOO!
Victorino should be dirt-napped for his asinine bullshtein tonight. He was totally worthless.
And job #1 in the offseason should be to get a real catcher. Ruiz is utter farging garbage.
man they really needed that one with hamels going...hopefully the brewers gag tonight but i really dont wanna lose the division to those sorry sacks of shtein from ny and now they be creepin with the game in hand
hamels on sunday, correct? season on the line? he's sure come up big the last two games he's pitched. well, tonight's not on him as much as the potent offense was brilliant with 2 farging runs.
yup
i think its clinched by then...unless lou doesnt pitch zambrano and harden i think the phils still win...but it would have been nice to all but seal it with a win tonight behind the "ace"
In Hamels last 8 losses the bums have scored 14 runs for a whopping 1.75 avg. per game.
last 8 losses is the key word...a lot of those losses is because cole gets out pitched...he seems to always find a way to give up a homer late in his losses where the other pitcher doesnt...when youre the ace youre invariably going to face the other teams best pitchers quite a bit and you have to out pitch a guy sometimes...he doesnt seem to have the toughness to do that
a no-name .230 hitter just hit a 2-run HR off Guillermo Mota....5-4 Pirates
What a boring game.
No runs for King.
But they should have won 2-1. Take away the HR given up to the HR KING Casey Kotchmann and the thrown away pick off.
Colbert needs to pull his head out. Be a stud.
wtf....2-out RBI double by Jason f'ing Kendall
and the Brewers win it on a 2-run walkoff by Prince
cole with just enough. gave 1 run away on an error, another on a bomb. sure the offense shtein the bed, but the "ace" should be better than that.
still they should win these next 4 and you have to figure those choking dogs are gonna do their thing.
Quote from: BigEd76 on September 23, 2008, 10:57:58 PM
and the Brewers win it on a 2-run walkoff by Prince
what on earth were they doing pitching to prince once the count got to 3-1....at the very least dont give him something to hit...throw something off speed for god farging sakes...
thats why youre the cork sucking pittsburgh pirates
If Lidge didn't pitch in that one game on July 25th, when he came in with the Phils trailing 1-0 and ended up giving up 5 runs, his ERA would be 1.21 on the year instead of 1.87. Crazy.
Breaking news at CBP...3 suspicious packages being detonated that were at the ballpark.
game still on for now....until they know more.
Found on the 1st base side of the ballpark.
Oops, I guess my panties never made it to Utley's locker.
http://www.philly.com/philly/sports/20080924_Suspicious_packages_detonated_at_Citizens_Bank_Park.html
Hot dogs!
:-D
Weapons of mass defibrilliation?
Should have detonated Myers along with it. Looks like he's back to his early season sucky self.
that's right brett, there is no sense of urgency here.
Haha. This isn't really going to happen, is it?
The old Myers is back bitches.
Quote from: Rome on September 24, 2008, 07:27:19 PM
Haha. This isn't really going to happen, is it?
wanna bet?
W.B. gets out of another jam.
Yay team.
shane you lucky shtein.
2-1 Injuns.
The Phillies are seriously playing like a bunch of boneheads, though. Amazing.
coste looked like he was trying to ground into a double play there
and could myers look any worse tonight? every other ball is ripped, he is just asking to get shelled.
Hoydas
Myers needs to go away and never farging come back.
this should be his last inning. myers has nothing again, get him the farg out of there.
Quote from: MDS on September 24, 2008, 07:29:35 PM
The old Myers is back bitches.
I was just going to say... the magic is over, and the wife-beating hillbilly is back.
oh christ
PINCH HIT.
Quote from: Geowhizzer on September 24, 2008, 07:58:27 PM
PINCH HIT.
They're going to go ahead and keep him in there.
CHOKE
ah, they still suck.
Mr. MVP of the Spring gets the bums within 1. Can Myers pitch one scoreless inning?
I say no.
the 8 and 9 hitters just barely missed hrs
how long will this last uncle stoopid?
Good news: Dawg homers to tie the game at 3.
Bad News: Zambrano walks home a run to let the Mets tie at 1.
phillies have 0 excuses to lose ANY of these game, so who cares about the mets
if they lose they should be sitting home gagging on their choke
Quote from: MDS on September 24, 2008, 08:12:59 PM
phillies have 0 excuses to lose ANY of these game, so who cares about the mets
if they lose they should be sitting home gagging on their choke
Not even you're that naive.
Choje dawg!
Quote from: MDS on September 24, 2008, 08:12:59 PM
phillies have 0 excuses to lose ANY of these game, so who cares about the mets
if they lose they should be sitting home gagging on their choke
:yay
Somehow Victorino is going to hit into a triple play even though there's only one on base.
Delgado slam makes it 5-1 Mets. :boom
LOL @ the Mets.
mets lucky to face a team already locked into the 1 seed, cant even get up to play spoiler
florida will do as they did last year, dont worry dear friends
cubs have left the building.
Quote from: Geowhizzer on September 24, 2008, 07:10:39 PM
Should have detonated Myers along with it. Looks like he's back to his early season sucky self.
just in time for the playoffs....or a huge choke
Quote from: ice grillin you on September 24, 2008, 08:19:08 PM
Quote from: Geowhizzer on September 24, 2008, 07:10:39 PM
Should have detonated Myers along with it. Looks like he's back to his early season sucky self.
just in time for the playoffs....or a huge choke
Looking a lot like the latter right now.
between that and hamels acting like a pure 2 starter is a 45 year old slop-baller the ace?
farging ridiculous. Burrell rips another double with none out and these clowns can't get him in.
Quote from: Geowhizzer on September 24, 2008, 08:20:03 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on September 24, 2008, 08:19:08 PM
Quote from: Geowhizzer on September 24, 2008, 07:10:39 PM
Should have detonated Myers along with it. Looks like he's back to his early season sucky self.
just in time for the playoffs....or a huge choke
Looking a lot like the latter right now.
i still think the phils win it because the mets have florida this weekend but im not feeling to good about it
phils will win it because the mets will lose it
This has to be Myers' last inning.
Well Werth didn't help him but farg it nice job wife beater
everyone feeling good about this rotation in a playoff series?
?
?
yah, didn't think so.
yeah way to step up coward
no you need durbin to get you into the 7th, so thats great
CHOKE DOG
farging losers. just choke already and end this shtein so i can enjoy my weekend. this is ridiculous.
He may be heating up at the plate, but he's still a butcher in the field.
Quote from: FastFreddie on September 24, 2008, 08:41:35 PM
He may be heating up at the plate, but he's still a butcher in the field.
he shouldn't even pick up a bat in spring training. spend 12 hours every day for 6 weeks working on fielding and relays.
who did not see this coming
don't worry, we'll sweep the Nats. Excuse me while I double check on the rumor that hell just froze over.
at least the mets bullpen is at it again
Larry goes long. Way to go Phils. 9-3
TRAIN. WRECK.
watch the Mets on ESPN to feel better
I tried that Ed, not feeling any better.
I want to puke.
Its even worse to have to hear McCarthy call the game. I think he was full on Mets boner hard when Chipper went deep.
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on September 24, 2008, 09:14:20 PM
I want to puke.
Its even worse to have to hear McCarthy call the game. I think he was full on Mets boner hard when Chipper went deep.
true, i wish i had the radio broadcast on just to hear harry's reaction. "you have got to be kidding me" still his best line yet during that Astros debacle two years ago.
that was a spirited effort by Ruiz.
farg him up shane! don't farg with the hawaiians.
lol at Tavarez, what a psycho. Benches cleared, I'm sure you've all missed it.
farging joke.
Good to see that this thread is back to where it started.
Quote from: SD_Eagle on September 24, 2008, 10:11:21 PM
lol at Tavarez, what a psycho. Benches cleared, I'm sure you've all missed it.
Patty B looked heated. Like he wanted to shtein on Tavarez.
What a buncha bums. Only the Phils can own a team all year and then when its nut time, they choke up.
Thank god for the Mets being zesty.
The farging bums are still in the driver's seat, with a magic number of 3. The way they are playing the Mets could easily take care of that on their own, but hopefully the Phils will help their own cause and win a couple games.
Mets now tied for the wild card. Ha.
CSN video of the Tavarez/Victorino crap (http://philadelphia.phillies.mlb.com/media/video.jsp?mid=200809243543246)
check out Burrell
I missed this during the game, but the guys on the PHils board are talking about it...
Lopes was interviewed during the game by the insufferable Mr. Met McCarthy. A fly ball was hit to Vic and McCarthy asked Lopes to critique Vic's play in CF. Lopes said he was doing good but then mentioned something about him going back to RF with Werth going to LF next year.
So I guess it is a foregone conclusion that Burrell is moving on.
Quote"It wouldn't be the Philly way. No matter what sport, we don't make it easy," shortstop Jimmy Rollins said.
I don't know which is worse... Myers performance last night or Manuel leaving him in until he completely disintegrated.
Just pathetic.
advantage who?
nationals @ fightins
balester - fatty
lannan - moyer
perez - hamels
marlins @ mets
volstad-pelfrey
nolasco-neise/knight
olsen-santana (short rest)
cubs @ brewers
dempster - suppan
lily - sheets
marquis - sabathia
Three teams will try to choke and only one will emerge victorious.
rain
Quote from: FastFreddie on September 25, 2008, 06:02:35 AM
Quote"It wouldn't be the Philly way. No matter what sport, we don't make it easy," shortstop Jimmy Rollins said.
are you kidding me? is this for real? what a terd.
Quote from: MDS on September 26, 2008, 02:36:28 PM
rain
So what's the plan if it's rained out? Double header tomorrow? 4:00 PM start gets moved up? No FOX broadcast?
TO
MUCH
PRESSURE.
CAN'T
HANDLE.
im going tomorrow and fully expect a rainout
giveum hell. especially if Shane plays like he played Tuesday night.
your bro has no excuse to oversleep this Sunday. 2:30 HST kickoff.
Choke dog! 3-0 Bums in the 1st.
Mets are down 2-0
CHOKE YO SELF HAVAS
:paranoid :paranoid :paranoid :paranoid :paranoid
:paranoid :paranoid :paranoid :paranoid :paranoid
:paranoid :paranoid :paranoid :paranoid :paranoid
:paranoid :paranoid :paranoid :paranoid :paranoid
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Of course tubby gives one back.
...to some scrub ass bitch named Luke Montz.
Who?
Quote from: SD_Eagle on September 26, 2008, 07:30:35 PM
Of course tubby gives one back.
2 out... 1-2 count... get the freaking job done fatso. :boom
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on September 26, 2008, 07:31:41 PM
...to some scrub ass bitch named Luke Montz.
Who?
Luke Montz? Isn't he on the new "90210"?
He threw it right down the middle of the plate.
They just showed a commercial of all the players thanking the fans for showing up this season. Jimmy Rollins wasn't in it. The ending was Kalas saying "thanks to the best fans in baseball". Not true but I almost felt like he was sticking up Jimmy's ass.
Mets had bases loaded but failed to get a run home. Still 2-0 fish.
Utley with the big hit. 6-1 Phils.
Utley just missed a GS. Bums up 6-1
and mlb.com freezes right in the middle of it all...................... :boom :boom :boom :boom
Howard follows with another double to make it 7-1.
where the farg was this against atlanta
Charlie threw the red flag
I don't think it will be overturned. Hard to tell definitively.
Idiot's on his cell phone.
3-0 Florida now.
Milwaukee and Chicago tied 1-1.
the team to beat?
utleys double was a friggin comedy act...the bank makes me sick
cant ever just be happy, can you
as i predicted and already knew the phils were making the playoffs reagrdless so whats to get excited about
when they actually clinch that will be great but tonight was par for the course
colin balester gimme a break
is there a more disgraceful player on the planet than jose reyes?
Quote from: MDS on September 26, 2008, 10:43:51 PM
is there a more disgraceful human on the planet than jose reyes?
i was gonna say that but then i thought of the president, reese/cole, david montgomery and rupert murdoch
that's a solid list
Magic Number = 1
My prediction post...
Quote1. Phillies 94-68
2. Mets 88-74
3. Braves 86-76
4. Nationals 75-87
5. Marlins 70-92
* Howard hits 60+
* Rollins has another MVP-type season but loses his shot at a repeat because;
* Chase Utley is the NL MVP, he'll hit .330+ with 25+ HRS
* The Werth/Jenkins platoon works out okay
* Pedro Feliz turns out to be one of the best low-key signings of the off-season
* Brad Lidge returns to his old form with a high 90s fastball and that hard ass slider
* Adam Eaton goes on the DL with a yeast infection
* Pat Burrell has a so-so final season in Philly and Billy Beans weeps sadly for his man
* Myers wins 15 and IGY cakes me off for that and the wins bet
* The Phils will miss Aaron Rowand big time, and they will regret not signing him
* The bullpen will be a strength (at least the back end)
QuoteGillick may decide to stand pat in Philly
There's a lot of scuttlebutt that Phillies GM Pat Gillick, who's still one of the best in the business, may not retire after all. Publicly, Gillick has maintained he planned to retire. But several baseball people said they believe the decision has not been made and that Gillick may indeed change his thinking and return to run the Phillies.
SI.com
Ed...
do you know of any of the local radio sites that are free? They are showing the Brewers-Cubs here tomorrow and no bars will show it either.
Why not make it 4 posts in a row, jason?
Why not fondle my beanbag, Todd?
I'm not even sure I'm going to my little cousins Jew mitzvah now so you need to come to philly for us to hang out
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on September 27, 2008, 12:50:00 AM
QuoteGillick may decide to stand pat in Philly
There's a lot of scuttlebutt that Phillies GM Pat Gillick, who's still one of the best in the business, may not retire after all. Publicly, Gillick has maintained he planned to retire. But several baseball people said they believe the decision has not been made and that Gillick may indeed change his thinking and return to run the Phillies.
SI.com
Please god no.
They're showing the Yankees/Red Sox here in Orlando.
:boom
guess what game they are showing in washington
LOL
Quote from: Rome on September 27, 2008, 07:37:04 AM
They're showing the Yankees/Red Sox here in Orlando.
:boom
Ft. Myers, too. Never mind that game has ZERO bearing on the playoffs now. I'd rather watch KC-Minnesota at this point than Yanks-Sawx.
mlb.com is only charging $8 for the rest of the weekend, and any tie break games.
Problem is any game that isn't on Fox at 3:55 is blacked out on MLB.TV and the MLB package.
Unless they decide to switch away from the meaningless Yankees/Red Sox game, the only cities that get the Phils game are Philly, Washington and Baltimore. TMACx2 today (McCarthy and McCarver)
Another note: Kendrick was told he's off the playoff roster and his ass is being shipped to the Florida Instructional League. At least it's not Japan.... :-D
Jay - try thegamelive.com (that link we post on the EMB game threads)
That's a shame about Kendrick. He's a good kid who pitched way over his head last year. Here's hoping he finds whatever he lost this year.
Ended up getting the audio on XM. Like when I was a kid listening to the game on the radio.
the Yankees/Red Sox audience just switched to the Phils game
I hope the Cubs drop about 11 runs soon. Then they will switch to the Phils here.
No luck on the link, Ed. All are blocked.
I'm following on Gamecast.
Pat sac fly foul out to Dukes...1-0 Phils
1st and 2nd, 1 out for Feliz right now
Now bases loaded for Ruiz.......sac fly 2-0
Moyer walks on 4 pitches to reload em, but Rollins grounds to Zimmerman
2-0 Phils after 4
Werth drops a 2-out line drive on the run near the fence, allowing a runner to score
2-1, bottom of the 5th
He redeems himself with an opposite-field shot to the same area! 3-1
I just got on the board to bitch and moan about Werth and whatta know?
Cubs still up 4-0.
Twins up on KC 2-0.
ugly at bat for choke dawg.
shane just missed a home run that would have put this thing away - well sort of.
One of the guys on the Phils MB hooked me up with a link to watch it online.
Sweet!
Now if I could just find a way to watch the post game celebration....
anyone know how to watch CSN online/
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on September 27, 2008, 05:30:15 PM
One of the guys on the Phils MB hooked me up with a link to watch it online.
Sweet!
Now if I could just find a way to watch the post game celebration....
anyone know how to watch CSN online/
WELL...??!?
don't you guys just love all these suspenseful updates?
this will make you puke - Durbin warming up
Sent ya a PM Geo...
http://www.selfcast.com/barcalysports
high and inside! thank you jesus!
Muchas gracias, mi amigo!
De nada, mi amigo.
6 more outs
Madson facing Guzman/Zimmerman/Milledge, still 3-1
This team is going to kill me.
:-X
3 more outs 3 more outs 3 more outs
Brewers have 2 on, 1 out in the bottom of the 8th, down 4-1. Who do they bring up? Craig Counsell.
Set the wayback maching to 1997, Sherman!
EDIT: And he gets a base hit. 4-2 Cubs. :-D
huge insurance run
7/8/9 vs Lidge
8 just got a hit
Dammit... lost the feed for the botom of the 9th.
And farging Fox won't switch to the game for a division clincher. Damn idiots.
Lost the farging feed too. farging figures!
Come on Lidge, get it done you sonofabitch
4-3 on a bloop single
Come on Lidge, you freaking moron.
bases loaded 1 out
bums!
NL EAST CHAMPS MOTHERfargER!!!!
J=ROLL!!!!!!!!!!!!
YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS
Season's over. Time to move on.
YESSSSSS!!!
Way to go Jimmy.
NL East Champs.
Tell me how the Phils ass tastes, Mets.
Werth wearing goggles in the locker room
The DP will be the #1 play on Sportscenter tonight
Quote from: BigEd76 on September 27, 2008, 06:52:36 PM
Werth wearing goggles in the locker room
The DP will be the #1 play on Sportscenter tonight
That was one hell of a play at anytime.
To get the final two outs in a clinching game? In-freaking-credible.
(http://mlb.imageg.net/graphics/product_images/pMLB2-5264934dt.jpg)
Holy shtein. That didn't take long.
:-D
That is one fugly hat.
I kinda like it.
I'm waiting for the "World Champs" hat.
I know. I'll be long dead when that happens.
Kevin Kennedy just said that he thinks Howard will be named MVP.
Quote from: Geowhizzer on September 27, 2008, 07:01:37 PM
Kevin Kennedy just said that he thinks Howard will be named MVP.
I just don't see it
It won't be Lidge because he's still shellshocked.
I like the hat, and the back to back division champs!!
Quote from: SD_Eagle on September 27, 2008, 07:04:23 PM
Quote from: Geowhizzer on September 27, 2008, 07:01:37 PM
Kevin Kennedy just said that he thinks Howard will be named MVP.
I just don't see it
Me either, really. It's probably still Pujols, though it would be interesting to see his head explode if Howard got it over him again.
here's the final DP for those that missed it (http://philadelphia.phillies.mlb.com/media/video.jsp?mid=200809273560660&c_id=phi)
thats fargin awesome!
God bless Jimmy Rollins.
MLB.TV already has the entire game up for replay if anyone cares.
does anyone have the link to HK calling the final out on the radio?
here you go (http://www.hammradio.com/video/PhilliesWinNLEast2008.mp3) :)
haha that was awesome
i was covering the temple game, finished up my work as the party was goin on down there, unreal.
figure game 1 will be at 3, game 2 at 530, game 3 either 1000 or 530
Hoyda cole in for game 1, too
Quote from: MDS on September 27, 2008, 08:42:18 PM
figure game 1 will be at 3, game 2 at 530, game 3 either 1000 or 530
Hoyda cole in for game 1, too
Figures they'll start the games when I'm either at school or in bed. :P
Quote from: MDS on September 27, 2008, 08:42:18 PM
figure game 1 will be at 3, game 2 at 530, game 3 either 1000 or 530
Hoyda cole in for game 1, too
Probably Wednesday when I have a test that I can't miss with a Professor that doesn't do make up tests. It's always something, last year I had to miss game 2 because my g/f went into labor.
Looks like I will be coming home early this week.
And that link doesn't work for me. :'(
I heard the first part real quick, maybe a second, and then nothing.
edit: sweet...I got it to work. I love Harry.
Quote from: PhillyGirl on September 27, 2008, 08:18:53 PM
does anyone have the link to HK calling the final out on the radio?
LA screaming in the background is even better. Almost sounded like Ron Santo.
I was fuming as we had to leave to go to jr's football game in the bottom of the seventh. Had to get updates on my wife's blackberry and finally resorted to calling my dad and having him place the phone next to the TV. Almost took out the car next to us on the highway when they pulled that double play. I had my Steve Carlton t-shirt on at the game and in between quarters the ref is asking me "did they win? are they in? mets lose?". Youth sports, classic.
Rollins to Utley to October (http://www.philly.com/philly/sports/20080928_Phil_Sheridan__Rollins_to_Utley_to_October.html)
Quote"I told my wife this morning, 'I do not want to pitch tomorrow,'" Hamels said. "Then I joked around about it all during batting practice. I kept telling guys, 'I'm not pitching tomorrow.'
"My heart started beating a little bit faster at the end knowing I might have to prepare for a game of that significance. I'm glad I don't have to do that.''
Hamels is bitchmade.
I hope to God he's kidding there because if not... Jesus Christ.
They would have won 100 games if I left my thread open.
Fo rill.
i start threads and teams make playoffs = fact
Right - and then they get swept in the playoffs.
SunMosy = playoff death.
ahhhh, but i didn't start that thread....that was Wing.
SunMosy = message board god
Yesterday was freaking amazing. The party afterwards was great too, Mcfaddens was off the hook, people were shooting beer in the air, my brain still hurts. When we were leaving, we were at the stop light at Darien street, and some dude was laid out on the ground cops were running from everywhere, and were arresting people around him. I dont know if the guy got shot, knocked out, or just passed out.
Quote from: SunMo on September 28, 2008, 09:41:18 AM
SunMosy = message board god
Hahaha. Somewhere IGY's head just exploded.
Johnny Boy is a god. What the farg do you iceholes thing he does around here?
LF Taguchi
SS Bruntlett
2B Iguchi
RF Jenkins
1B Coste
3B Cervenak
CF Golson
C Marson
RHP Kendrick
:-D :-D :-D
and the Nationals are resting Zimmerman, Guzman, Milledge and Dukes...
Sweet.
I just wish they could carry the good Jap on the playoff roster; Iguchi.
They do get 4 playoff roster exemptions according to Gillick because of the injuries to guys like Mathieson, Gordon and Zagurski. But Tad is not eligible because he joined after Sept 1.
Multiple *guchis and *sons starting. Should be a wild game.
i know it means nothing but iguchi batting 3rd is stupid, he sucks. but why the hell not.
Quote from: MDS on September 28, 2008, 12:30:59 PM
Johnny Boy is a god. What the farg do you iceholes thing he does around here?
Shut the farg up, paperboy.
(http://www.xenafan.com/movies/bod/images/johnny05.jpg)
QuoteProps for Pat
Phillies president David Montgomery hired Pat Gillick as general manager after the 2005 season because the club couldn't get to the postseason. Gillick has rewarded him with back-to-back NL East championships for the first time since 1976-78.
Gillick said he will retire after this season.
"When I think back about Pat's contribution, it's that he let the good people here continue to do good things," Montgomery said. "He didn't come in and say I have to make all these changes. He worked with Mike [Arbuckle]. He worked with Ruben [Amaro Jr.]. He said we just needed a couple of more wins. Well, the glass ceiling for us was winning 90. We finally won 90 this year. Sometimes good leadership just gives you the ability to believe in yourself."
Asked whether the team's success makes him more likely to find Gillick's replacement internally - assistant GMs Amaro and Arbuckle are candidates - Montgomery said it's too early to talk about that.
"We're blessed with two great internal candidates," he said. "I continue to ask Pat, 'Isn't this a lot of fun?' But my expectation is after we hopefully win a few more games, we'll talk about that."
Goddamn I hate Monty.
He's already pimping that fargface Amaro and Arbuckle.
Please hire Hunsicker or Cashman!
hope
Quote from: Rome on September 28, 2008, 01:45:28 PM
Quote from: MDS on September 28, 2008, 12:30:59 PM
Johnny Boy is a god. What the farg do you iceholes thing he does around here?
Shut the farg up, paperboy.
(http://www.xenafan.com/movies/bod/images/johnny05.jpg)
Daniel Briere?
manuel said they will carry 11 pitchers, so....
sp: hamels, moyer, myers, blanton
rp: lidge, madson, durbin, romero, eyre, condrey, seanez/happ
c: ruiz, coste
if: dobbs, feliz, rollins, bruntlett, utley, choke,
of: burrell, victorino, werth, stairs, golson, taguchi/jenkins
Taguchi has 2 RBI's - Is that more than he had all season until today?
QuoteThe Bucks County Courier Times reported this morning that Golson was told he will not be on the post-season roster and is scheduled to fly to Florida on Monday to play in the Florida Instructional League.
i guess they are going with gee off instead. logical move considering golson can't hit or play the field and you dont the same kind of bench as you do in september.
Golson responded by hitting a home run.
Phils up 8-3. Ha.
Quote from: FastFreddie on September 28, 2008, 04:17:51 PM
Golson responded by hitting a home run.
Phils up 8-3. Ha.
Better record (92-70) than 1980 (91-71).
How many years have they had a better record, and what was the most recent?
83? 93?
Quote from: FastFreddie on September 28, 2008, 04:34:40 PM
How many years have they had a better record, and what was the most recent?
83? 93?
I believe they won 97 in 1993.
EDIT: They only won 90 in 1983 and in 1978. The most ever were in 1976 and 1977 (101 each).
Coincidentally, they won 92 games in a season last in... 1964.
They went 91-63 in 1950, 90-62 in 1915.
i'm reading back in the early part of this thread and the offseason thread hoping to find where Die-Hard said that the Mets bullpen was better than Phillies.
however, along the way, i've found some good and bad predictions.
a good one:
Quote from: ice grillin you on October 11, 2007, 10:23:19 AM
kendrick is not a three...ill bet anyone here 20 bucks he isnt over 500 next year
and ill take odds on him losing his spot in the rotation at some point
Phils/Brewers on Wednesday. Have they given the start time yet? If they schedule these games at CPB as the early games again I'll shtein. We got screwed last year.
I think I read that it is 3pm start, 630pm and 10pm.
Quote from: SunMo on September 28, 2008, 05:04:07 PM
i'm reading back in the early part of this thread and the offseason thread hoping to find where Die-Hard said that the Mets bullpen was better than Phillies.
however, along the way, i've found some good and bad predictions.
a good one:
Quote from: ice grillin you on October 11, 2007, 10:23:19 AM
kendrick is not a three...ill bet anyone here 20 bucks he isnt over 500 next year
and ill take odds on him losing his spot in the rotation at some point
Obsessed
with what? reading back on everyone's predictions? yeah, i guess.
Quote from: SunMo on September 28, 2008, 07:00:53 PM
with what? reading back on everyone's predictions? yeah, i guess.
everyone is obsessed with proving that Havas is wrong, and you seem to defend a certain someone.
QuoteWednesday, October 1st
3:00 p.m. MIL @ PHI
6:30 p.m. LAD @ CHI
10:00 p.m. BOS @ LAA
Thursday, October 2nd
2:30 p.m. CWS or MIN @ TB
6:00 p.m. MIL @ PHI
9:30 p.m. LAD @ CHI
Friday, October 3rd
6:00 p.m. CWS or MIN @ TB
9:30 p.m. BOS @ LAA
Saturday, October 4th
6:30 p.m. PHI @ MIL
10:00 p.m. CHI @ LAD
god forbid they get a primetime game...jesus christ
Quote from: SunMo on September 28, 2008, 10:26:39 PM
god forbid they get a primetime game...jesus christ
Small market obviously
god do you idiots know how this shtein works?
do you want 2 games at the same time or do you want mlb to put the bigger draw at 3 in the afternoon and the phillies at 8 so its convenient for you?
I'd actually like to be able to watch the playoffs, thanks.
Guess I'll be DVR-ing the first game and trying to avoid the score on the way home. :-\
lol @ anyone thinking the phils would get better start times than the cubs....the media so badly wants the cubs to be the new red sox its not even funny....lovable losers FTL
it goes
1. yankees
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2. red sox
3. cubs
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4. mets
5. phillies
6. dodgers/giants
wheres Favre?
nfl is lucky enough to have 2 players make 2 normally unmarketable teams popular (jets and colts), and also have two small market teams (packers and steelers) become big draws, in addition to the usual big markets (cowboys, giants, eagles, bears, 49ers) who also can draw.
and thats why they are the most popular league.
a baseball playoff without the sox, cubs or yanks = EPIC FAIL
Quote from: SunMo on September 28, 2008, 05:04:07 PMi'm reading back in the early part of this thread and the offseason thread hoping to find where Die-Hard said that the Mets bullpen was better than Phillies.
Mets thread, page 6:
Quote from: Die-Hard on April 11, 2008, 09:30:50 AM
True, the Mets bullpen sucks. But the Philllies pen sucks just as much, if not more.
What was the final tally for bullpen ERA and W-L for each team?
Phillies = 33-23, 47 saves, 483 IP, 3.22 ERA, 37 HR, 411 K, 211 BB (39 intentional), .251 BA, .333 OBP, .371 SLG, .703 OPS, .304 BABIP
Mets = 28-28, 43 saves, 493.1 IP, 4.27 ERA, 58 HR, 410 K, 202 BB (37 intentional), .258 BA, .336 OBP, .401 SLG, .736 OPS, .299 BABIP
I couldn't find the blown saves totals but I think the Mets had around 30 of them...
The Phillies pen gave up more walks. They suck.
It was truly nauseating watching Gavin Floyd frigging dominate Detroit tonight. Jesus - what an incredible blunder trading him was.
If he was still here he'd be in AAA with a 5-11 record and a 5.15ERA.
Change of scenery was needed.
Ideally the haul would have been better than Freddy Garcia. But yeah, Gavin Floyd would never have done that here.
hamels vs. gollardo
he faced the phils last year, won the game, gave up a run in 6.2 innings, but hes coming off an injury is making his 2nd start since may. hes right handed. its a bandbox. win. please.
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on September 30, 2008, 12:39:22 AM
If he was still here he'd be in AAA with a 5-11 record and a 5.15ERA.
Change of scenery was needed.
Ideally the haul would have been better than Freddy Garcia. But yeah, Gavin Floyd would never have done that here.
whatever makes you feel better
22 year olds who had like 15 career starts dont need changes of scenery...they need seasoning...changes of scenery are for veterans like manny ramierez whos been in a place for 100 years and needs to get out
not even you phreak can try and defend that move as anything but a massive and collassal FAIL
yeah I don't buy he needed a change of scenery either. You can either pitch or you can't. Giillick really shtein the bed with that trade.
Quote from: MDS on September 30, 2008, 01:49:30 AM
hamels vs. gollardo
he faced the phils last year, won the game, gave up a run in 6.2 innings, but hes coming off an injury is making his 2nd start since may. hes right handed. its a bandbox. win. please.
you cant lose game one...you just cant
according to weather nerds, its supposed to rain tomorrow afternoon, then clear up at night. so you girls complaining about baseball logically revolving its postseason schedule against the best matchups for tv ratings might be able to see the game after all.
die in a fire todd
unpossible since the rain would put it out
Garcia for Floyd has the potential to go down in Phillies history as the worst trade ever.
Lidge wins NL Comeback Player of the Year in a total shocker.
Quote from: Rome on September 30, 2008, 12:12:32 PM
Garcia for Floyd has the potential to go down in Phillies history as the worst trade ever.
Sandberg?
Sandberg never won anything. Plus, the Phillies had Juan Samuel, Randy Ready, and Mickey Morandini.
sanberg is easy to say now because he ended up being a hall of famer...but if you go back to that time sandberg was a 20th round pick...floyd was a top 5 overall pick who they invested milions of dollars in and at least they got a few (albeit bad ones) years out of dejesus.....freddie garcia gave them a few minutes
time will tell but if floyd keeps up what he did this year for another decade or so he eclipses sandberg
nm
Quote from: ice grillin you on September 30, 2008, 10:12:25 AM
unpossible since the rain would put it out
theyd just put it on tnt or something, start it around 7 or 8
Floyd might end up dead in a car wreck next week. On the other hand he might go on and win 250 games in the Majors. Either way the deal would still be a tremendous failure on the Phillies' part. Not only did Garcia lie to the Phillies, they actually allowed him to come to Philly without going through an extensive physical. I don't blame Garcia, though. He basically stole 10 million dollars and got away scot free.
http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=3618812
sweet, going to the game. if they lose ill kill...sunmo? no hes too adorable.
Maybe its a good thing he misses the first game, Gallardo is a righty and Patricia hasn't exactly been lighting it up the past 2 months.
I mean, who wouldn't want to see Jenkins start a playoff game?!
Vs. his old team...maybe that's extra motivation.
Quote from: Rome on September 30, 2008, 12:12:32 PM
Garcia for Floyd has the potential to go down in Phillies history as the worst trade ever.
You know nuttin buddy.
Floyd wasn't even the best player we gave up in that deal. 2008 Floyd=2007 Kendrick. He will be back in the minors mid way through next year.
anyone going to game 2? i'll be there. holla if you want to drink 24 beers beforehand.
Quote from: jihadist monk on September 30, 2008, 07:07:29 PM
Quote from: Rome on September 30, 2008, 12:12:32 PM
Garcia for Floyd has the potential to go down in Phillies history as the worst trade ever.
You know nuttin buddy.
Floyd wasn't even the best player we gave up in that deal. 2008 Floyd=2007 Kendrick. He will be back in the minors mid way through next year.
Right - and there's no such thing as a clutch player and strikeouts mean nothing.
Got it.
dont you people realize mikey just tries to start inane arguments for the sake of it?
17-8 sucks, though. SUCKS!
WINS AND LOSSES ARE AN EXCELLENT WAY TO EVALUATE A PITCHER
REALLY IT GIVES YOU THE TOTAL PICTURE
REALLY I AM SEREAL
How about hits to innings pitched, ERA, strikeouts to walks ratio... I guess those stats don't mean anything either, right brainiac?
mikey
im gonna say luck and youre gonna get angry but ive been right about literally everything weve argued about so...
how about floyd having more stuff in his bullpen sessions than kendrick has in the best pitch hes ever thrown
will floyd win 16 games a year for the next ten years...doubtful...is comparing him to kendrick assinine yes...but then again this is coming from someone that said pat burrell would carry the team down the stretch
seyz the guy who thought the phillies would be out of it by early september.
that was last year dummy
that was this year remember.
you kept wanting to bet and i kept saying sure mds will back me up and you kept saying thats not funny.
no that was about burrell
nope that was about the division.
Quote from: ice grillin you on August 15, 2008, 08:14:49 AM
mets will be 5-10 games up by sept 15
shtein they might be up by that much by the eagles opener...yeah the phils get the nats mixed in twice but they play the dodgers mets and cubs 13 times in the next two and a half weeks
ooops....still was bettetr than your burrell prediction tho
i cant find it but i am guessing if it exists it was based off the fact that he had been bad for a while and was bound to come out of it at some point. it probably happened sometime in between when i made that comment and now but i wasnt paying attention.
mikey do you cream your pants over these stupid internet conversations?
the burrell prediction was classic not because it was wrong but because literally 24 hrs after you made it he went into an epic slump and never came out of it
not really they are pretty easy for me. its like shining a flashlight on the floor in front of a dog.
when are finishing high school, idiot
Quote from: ice grillin you on August 15, 2008, 08:14:49 AM
mets will be 5-10 games up by sept 15
shtein they might be up by that much by the eagles opener...yeah the phils get the nats mixed in twice but they play the dodgers mets and cubs 13 times in the next two and a half weeks
Mets were up 3 games on Sept. 12... he wasn't that far off.
yeah son
does tbs come in hd...i cant find it on comcast
My Comcast in Pittsburgh has TBS-HD. They don't have it lumped in with the rest of the HD channels here for some reason though... pretty much have to use the guide to find it.
Quote from: MDS on September 30, 2008, 09:30:32 PM
when are finishing high school, idiot
about 7 months
WTF is ryan howard pimpin for Subway? that bootleg cheesesteak :boo still can't go out with anyone who knows I'm from philly anywhere, "are you going to get the cheesesteak, mother fargers :boom
lol
Quote from: phillymic2000 on September 30, 2008, 10:15:33 PM
WTF is ryan howard pimpin for Subway? that bootleg cheesesteak :boo still can't go out with anyone who knows I'm from philly anywhere, "are you going to get the cheesesteak, mother fargers :boom
three years ago says (http://chat2.globalpinoy.com/images/emoticons/wave.gif)
Quote from: QB Eagles on September 30, 2008, 09:41:19 PM
My Comcast in Pittsburgh has TBS-HD. They don't have it lumped in with the rest of the HD channels here for some reason though... pretty much have to use the guide to find it.
mine too...i knew i had it because i watched their sunday games all year but coukldnt find it...btw their baseball games in HD rival any HD program ive ever seen...at least their sunday ones during the season did
Just grabbed two tickets cheap on stubhub. They're going for less than 100 bucks right now in section 125 behind the plate. Anyone heading down today?
im saving my money for WS tix
is there something wrong with that section? i noticed yesterday that seats were going there really cheap, which doesn't make sense because people are trying to get over 100 for upper levels.
Sat there before, and everything was fine. Today's tickets are dropping in price as the game gets closer. You can buy tickets on the dugout in sections like 130 for about 120$ now too. Tomorrow is more expensive, I'm assuming because less people can get out of work today on short notice.
i'm pretty sure i'm bailing from work at 2:30 to go watch the game at a bar. i tried to listen to the games on the radio at work last year and i didn't get much done anyway.
The Current Economic Crisis is a good thing for sports fans
i'll be in front row, section 143 for tomorrow's game. right behind pat burrell. i will catch a home run for sure.
i hear that they want you to throw it back if it's from the other team
like theres any chance myers is going to give up a home run.
i forgot
Burrell is in the lineup
Rollins
Werth
Utley
Howard
Burrell
Victorino
Feliz
Ruiz
Hamels
burrell should get his ass yanked out of the lineup for that hideous at bat...god he makes me sick
werth is not to far behind. what the hell was going on during those last two at bats?
I came home early to watch...I'm such a slacker.
Werth looks like trash thus far. Two terrible ABs.
Combine it with Burrell's hideous AB and I'm already frustrated.
The Brewers look like they want to give it away already. Gallardo is wild and they are swinging at trash. And the Brewesr defense sucks.
nice reminder of last years great performance during game 1.
Holy shtein! He dropped it!
they are so lucky the Brewers defense sucks
great, we get to watch Patsy take strike three looking.
Smoltz actually isn't bad as a color guy
agreed on Smoltz.
c'mon shane. don't hit a little dribbler to the ss.
great ab by shane...i really thought he would pull a Jimmy there
shtein, could have put this baby to bed with a huge inning.
cole be groovin
dying to see werth's at bat here.
Why? Werth isn't going to stink it up for long, you all know that.
Why whine about it?
Quote from: PhillyGirl on October 01, 2008, 04:14:29 PM
Why? Werth isn't going to stink it up for long, you all know that.
Why whine about it?
Because I'm a nervous wreck. Watching the game alone in my office pretending I'm working is very stressful. Sad thing is I work out of home.
haha, well, don't stress.
dammit, Cole had Hart buried 0-2 and threw a fastball down the middle and gave up his first basehit
Quote from: PhillyGirl on October 01, 2008, 04:14:29 PM
Why? Werth isn't going to stink it up for long, you all know that.
Why whine about it?
slut
of course, 3 run lead and by the book charlie has to have lidge up. just let cole finish the game
Quote from: SunMo on October 01, 2008, 05:20:31 PM
of course, 3 run lead and by the book charlie has to have lidge up. just let cole finish the game
Was that Smoltz who just said do not put Lidge in? Don't let the Brewers see him until later in the series. Absolutely.
i think so...and yeah, i agree too
Should Keep Cole in you dumb farg
dammit!
stupid stupid stupid charlie
cole was cruising and under 100 pitches...i guess the only thing you can say is that this bodes well for him pitching on short rest...but still, i would've liked to have seen him finish it
mitch williams...i mean brad lidge is making me nervous
I'd like to see Lidge not give this away
what the farg...this is not good
LOL, here it comes
unbelievable.
actually it isn't.
Lidge = Akers outside 39 yards
holy shtein that swing made me poop
say it aint farging so...please god
he throws one more heater it could be over
they are laying off the slider and waiting for fastballs
high heat destroys him right here
if he can get it up
jesus lidge. farg!
wow...what a strikeout
holy heart attack
up the ladder...peace
terrible swing by lard ass.
everyone ok?
i'm not.
how ironic, they're testing the civil defense sirens in Honolulu right now! :-D
feel the whiff boys..game over
wow, talk about a repeat of saturday
holy shtein...not easy, but finally a playoff win
Philly sports are going to kill me.
Lucky shteins.
four hits and more awful managing...just like game 1 last year cept cole came up huge
and where was i when utley formed an awful lisp
Quote from: SunMo on October 01, 2008, 05:35:09 PM
mitch williams...i mean brad lidge is making me nervous
Well, Mitch threw out the first pitch.
A win is a win, I'll take it. Although the offense wasn't too good despite a pitching staff that wanted to give it up big time. Gallardo was walkin fools left and right.
Gotta hope CC is worn out.
I almost shat my pants.
Why was Lidge in there anyway? Gawd only threw 101 pitches and cruised the last three innings. Stupid fat managers and head coaches are gonna kill my ass one of these days.
Charlie's explanation:
If Hamels put one or two on, he would've pulled Hamels anyway. Plus the first few batters up were rightees and Lidge is .170 a clip against them. He thought it was set up perfectly for him.
He also said situations like this are what they have Lidge for.
I see. So Uncle Cholly didn't actually watch the last three innings that Hamels pitched. Instead, he asked someone in the clubhouse how many pitches Hamels had thrown, realized it was the ninth inning, and went with Lidge.
Awesome. How the Phillies haven't won the World Series every year with Manuel managing is beyond me.
lidge was the obvious move to make. hes been...lights out and its a playoff game, why the farg wouldnt you use him. is it mauels fault he didnt know lidge slider would be flatter than kate hudson? no, he cant. but whatever, they won. thats all that counts.
I would usually agree with bringing in the closer if the starter didn't have anything left. Hamels was rolling through the Brewers without breaking a sweat, though. He was totally dominant and with a three run lead there was no reason to expect he'd do anything but continue the dominance.
Whatever, though. I'm just nitpicking and it's annoying even me at this point.
Great game from Hamels and they got the win. That's all that counts.
First playoff win in nearly 15 years, right? I'll take it.
i guess i'm rooting for the dodgers just so it'll be easier to get my hands on some NLCS tickets.
Honestly, Lidge hasn't been that "lights out" the past week or so. Most of his saves have been 20+ pitches, putting men on base, and being Houdini to get out of it (with a huge assist from Rollins in the clincher).
Not sure what's the matter, but with the way Hamels was pitching, they should have left him in and allowed Lidge another day of rest. Hamels was dominating the whole game, and more so in the later innings.
Quote from: MDS on October 01, 2008, 06:49:09 PM
lidge was the obvious move to make. hes been...lights out and its a playoff game, why the farg wouldnt you use him. is it mauels fault he didnt know lidge slider would be flatter than kate hudson? no, he cant. but whatever, they won. thats all that counts.
no...hes been struggling lately and you had cole at maybe his most dominating ever...no reason to bring him in at that point...now hes shot for tomorrow...a game that if you do win you arent likely to be up by a lot and will need your closer
2-3-4 up and your lights close rested and ready to go. unless cole was pitching a perfect game, i go to lidge. thats why they pay him $10 mil.
you dont play people by how much money they make and he hasnt been near lights out lately
and like romey said cole was lights at the time...thats the big factor here...had retired eight in a row
charlie tried to fix something that wasnt broke and almost paid for it...and he wasted lidge for tommorow while he was at it...should be fun watching madson or romero close out a 2-1 game if it comes to that
(http://donchavez.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2008/02/rh5.jpg)
MVP! MVP! MVP!
lidge can pitch back to back days, he'll be ready to go.
you cant think about game 2 before you won game 1, they needed 3 outs in a 3 run game to win, hamels was dealing but you had a rested lidge who you have to totally trust because he has never let you down. havas.
Let's face it; whichever move Cholly makes there is probably the wrong one. He's an idiot.
whoever tried to get playoff tickets but didn't check your email now. i just got an email about second chance tix for Game 5 and was able to get 3 of them for face value.
Quote from: phattymatty on October 02, 2008, 08:37:53 AM
whoever tried to get playoff tickets but didn't check your email now. i just got an email about second chance tix for Game 5 and was able to get 3 of them for face value.
That's a scam. You just donated the sum of 5,220,000.00 Euros to the Nigerian freedom fund.
i got that too, but it says there is a problem authorizing my credit card. motherfarger.
got it also
saving my money for world series tho
for whatever it's worth...WS tickets are $150 face. I have home games 1 and 3.
the cheapest are 150?
Yeah...there's only 2 levels of seating throughout the playoffs this year.
Right behind the plate / rest of park
NLDS $70/$40
NLCS $120/$80
WS $225/$150
i thought they were gonna be tough to get
Quote from: MDS on October 02, 2008, 09:50:10 AM
i got that too, but it says there is a problem authorizing my credit card. motherfarger.
That's because you need money in your account, Todd.
Insert hilarious joke about 'jew gold'.
HILARIOUS.
i have 3k in my account, i am more rich than igy who cant afford playoff tickets because he is now poor?
Myers starts strong with a K...then walks in a run. But he was getting squeezed a bit by that shrimpy farg Mark Wegner.
Why does it matter? Because Wegner is giving Sabathia shtein a foot outside when Howard was up.
And Utley failed to score Shane-O, who doubled and stole 3rd w/ 1 out.
LETS GO!
Quote from: MDS on October 02, 2008, 05:50:15 PM
i have 3k in my account, i am more rich than igy who cant afford playoff tickets because he is now poor?
bad week at the tracks for havas
Ryan Howard looks like the fat kids I used to play ball with who had no idea what they were doing at the plate but caught ahold of pitches every now and then and made the rest of us look like scrawny 12 year olds. Which we were.
fargers are farged up in Philly right now. And I hate every one of them.
SHANEY!
Before he hit that, I was about to say that was the loudest scoreless inning from the home team I've ever heard.
HOLY shtein!
Jesus christ!
WAY TO GO YOU PINEAPPLE LOVIN farg!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
DonHo, take a bow.
farg CC.
Myers workin the count was HUGE!!!! He fouled off like 6 pitches.
YES!! LETS GO PHILS!
That was incredible.
The wifebeater just needs to keep the Brewers off the board now.
Victorinoey! Don Ho just had an orgasm.
Nice job, Brett. Just keep pickin' em up and layin' em down.
So what's the deal on WS tix?
Where does one purchase those for face now?
Shut up, you jinxing tejano.
I'm just following up on an earlier conversation!
I'll get my #39 authentic ready for the Series and the parade down Broad!
STOP JINXING THEM, DAMN IT!
Where is everyone tonight? :paranoid
Frantically searching for WS tickets?
Staking out real estate on Broad and Pattison?
I want the spot in front of the fence by C-6.
I'll be there if they make the Series.
that was almost Burt Hooton redux in that inning
more cheers for Myers in this AB
Brett Myers is like Lane Myers in 'Better off Dead' trying to ski the K-12. If he can just get past the first part without killing himself the rest is a breeze.
ha....IBB to Victorino to pitch to Utley
the lefty hitters have no shot against him
Big spot here for Chase/Howard if Chase walks. 2 guys in scoring position. Chance to bust the game wide open.
loaded for Howard
and CC is done!
Blah. He had some pitches to hit there too.
The third baseman was so far out that a bunt down the line scores Rollins easily. Choke and poke scores two easily.
This one isn't about the homer, big guy, every freaking run counts.
Thought that was two runs easily there. Rollins smoked that.
Am I dreaming
The last three inning the Phillies have had eight men on base and haven't gotten a single run out of it.
Howard struck out with bases loaded to kill the first rally, Rollins lined out with bases loaded to kill the second and now Werth pops up to end the third.
These fargers refuse to put their heels in the Brewers throats.
And another thing... why the farg do we have to listen to two Braves corksuckers announce this game?
And the PBP guy is a Brewers PBP dude.
But its better than Wheels and McCarthy.
farg. And just like that it's 5-2.
Motherfarger.
The Bridge to Lidge? He just made that shtein up.
They've had so many chances to blow this open and have wasted them all.
Why am I not confident in the last two innings?
farging Rollins. :boom
Way to help out madson there Jimmy.
The only thing I hate worse than listening to these iceholes is watching that fat talentless flag Frank Caliendo during every commercial break. Christ - he's not funny, TBS. NOT FUNNY.
Romero's in now against Princess.
Nice fargin' pitch from Romero. End of inning, thank Satan.
sphincter........aaahhhhhhhhhhh......release
Quote from: Geowhizzer on October 02, 2008, 08:42:06 PM
They've had so many chances to blow this open and have wasted them all.
Why am I not confident in the last two innings?
no one on this board right now is confident. especially when the score should be at least 7-2.
Quote from: Rome on October 02, 2008, 08:48:47 PM
The only thing I hate worse than listening to these iceholes is watching that fat talentless flag Frank Caliendo during every commercial break. Christ - he's not funny, TBS. NOT FUNNY.
But if he keeps repeating
very funny about himself every commercial, doesn't that mean it has to be hilarious?!
This team makes my head hurt.
Quote from: Rome on October 02, 2008, 08:23:57 PM
And another thing... why the farg do we have to listen to two Braves corksuckers announce this game?
I was on the road all afternoon and listened to most of the game on the radio. The ESPN crew was pretty bad to. Michael Kay from the Yankees and Steve Phillips.
oh shtein. 10 men left on base. not good.
Lights Out Lidge.
It's like they keep saying it so he'll farg up.
God, and I thought ESPN was bad.
ok, this half inning should take 1/2 hour.
LIDGEY!
Does David Aldridge have AIDS? Seriously.
One win in Milwaukee = more champagne :yay
The best part of the Phillies win? NOT HAVING TO WATCH TBS ANYMORE.
Quote from: Rome on October 02, 2008, 09:13:02 PM
The best part of the Phillies win? NOT HAVING TO WATCH TBS ANYMORE.
are they not doing Saturday's game?
tbs has all division series games + rotating cs', this year it's the al.
I meant that I wouldn't have to watch it anymore tonight. My main question about tonight's broadcast is why they felt the need to have not one but TWO Braves guys announcing a Phillies game? Is there a reason that whenever there's a Philly sports team playing it seems like one of their biggest rivals is being represented in the announcing booth?
Just awful, especially having an active Atlanta Brave announcing the game.
it's a mere coincidence that tbs' #3 team is announcing this series. they didnt do it on purpose, but it'll be better than buck and mccarver for the nlcs.
Simpson isn't that bad.
And Smoltz seems complimentary. I enjoy a little bit of his insight when the Phils are batting, knowing that he has to gameplan against them.
Phillies/Dodgers NLCS huh. That's a new one....
i was front row left field for the game and get home to about 5 messages from people saying they saw me on tv. victorino's grand slam hit about 20 yards to my right, and it's probably the most nuts sporting moment that i've ever been to, my area was absolutely ridiculous. i'm going to be hoarse for days for yelling at ryan braun.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pe6AWrx_vEw
i cant get over how much the play by play guy sounds like mike breen
career playoff stats
utley 3-19 8 K
choke 3-17 11 K
(http://media.philly.com/storage/dailynews/covers/back.jpg)
best at bat ever.
Quote from: ice grillin you on October 03, 2008, 08:01:03 AM
career playoff stats
utley 3-19 8 K
choke 3-17 11 K
Through 2 games, dawg hasn't hit a ball fair yet
their lineup is gonna get exposed big time against the dodgers
(http://media.philly.com/images/100208_600.jpg)
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seriously, top 3 sports moment i've ever been to in person.
Quote from: ice grillin you on October 03, 2008, 10:22:27 AM
their lineup is gonna get exposed big time against the dodgers
Offense is borderline irrelevant in the postseason, they just need the pitching to hold up.
but they hit the dodgers pretty well in the 8 games against them, even in the series they swept the phils through.
not only is it not irrelevant it cost them a series last year
pitching is more important of course but when you hit .172 in a series your chances are pretty much done no matter what
not saying they will hit .172 but their lineup better produce more and stop leaving so many men on if they wanna win the next series
(http://cache.gawker.com/assets/images/deadspin/2008/10/100208_myerswalks_400.jpg)
quit hatin and enjoy the wins, havas. come on, big papa, lets get happy.
my eyes are on the prize....you can have first round wins
I don't think the bums are the best team in the league. But in the back of my mind I keeping thinking maybe they'll just get hot and win it all. Just once a Philly team has to exceed expectations and just get it done.
Quote from: ice grillin you on October 03, 2008, 11:42:40 AM
my eyes are on the prize....you can have first round wins
im lookin for a win. its not like choke and ace are trying to suck, sure they have to do better, no shtein. lets not get ahead of ourselves, they still need to close fattyville out, and it can be 1-0 or 100-99 for all i care.
Quote from: SD_Eagle on October 03, 2008, 12:00:42 PM
I don't think the bums are the best team in the league. But in the back of my mind I keeping thinking maybe they'll just get hot and win it all. Just once a Philly team has to exceed expectations and just get it done.
the odds are certainly against it
Quote from: SD_Eagle on October 03, 2008, 12:00:42 PM
I don't think the bums are the best team in the league. But in the back of my mind I keeping thinking maybe they'll just get hot and win it all. Just once a Philly team has to exceed expectations and just get it done.
best team often doesnt win....i think the phils have a good shot at the ws now that they are in...either way at this point thats what we all should be looking at...what does this team have to do to win it all this year
phils better win tomorrow cause idiot mlb put sundays game at 1pm
i believe that is just a tentative sked because the cubs and sox games arent even 3 hours apart
Quote from: MDS on October 03, 2008, 01:19:15 PM
i believe that is just a tentative sked because the cubs and sox games arent even 3 hours apart
Nope, they're 3 hours and 10 minutes...
http://mlb.mlb.com/mlb/schedule/index.jsp#20081003
Quote from: ice grillin you on October 03, 2008, 01:11:33 PM
phils better win tomorrow cause idiot mlb put sundays game at 1pm
shtein. They'd better wrap this up tomorrow, you're right.
Quote from: Wingspan on October 03, 2008, 01:23:36 PM
Quote from: MDS on October 03, 2008, 01:19:15 PM
i believe that is just a tentative sked because the cubs and sox games arent even 3 hours apart
Nope, they're 3 hours and 10 minutes...
http://mlb.mlb.com/mlb/schedule/index.jsp#20081003
first one i saw had something different.
well that was to be expected with two 2-0 series. basically tbs can promote the two games that will happen at the good timeslots, and worry about the other ones if they go down. had the phillies series been 1-1, the game would have been at 4 probably. but whatever, yea, end it tomorrow or else im off to sit uncomfortably on a bar stool.
ill have to rely on this drooling cancer patient looking kenzo inbred who gives my section updates from the headphone radio he rocks every game
yeah...i won't be sitting with you..that sucks
just use your ticket to get in and then come up and sit on my lap
Quote from: ice grillin you on October 03, 2008, 10:38:11 AM
not saying they will hit .172 but their lineup better produce more and stop leaving so many men on if they wanna win the next series
All the Phils have to do to avoid this is to stop watching the Dodgers play. It's hard to believe any team leaves more runners on base than the Dodgers.
Anyone got stats?
F LA.
Phils goin to the Series!
Quote from: phattymatty on October 03, 2008, 02:16:57 AM
i was front row left field for the game and get home to about 5 messages from people saying they saw me on tv. victorino's grand slam hit about 20 yards to my right, and it's probably the most nuts sporting moment that i've ever been to, my area was absolutely ridiculous. i'm going to be hoarse for days for yelling at ryan braun.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pe6AWrx_vEw
good shtein! thank you. even knowing the outcome i was at the edge of my seat.
Quote from: ice grillin you on October 03, 2008, 01:11:33 PM
phils better win tomorrow cause idiot mlb put sundays game at 1pm
Sunday is really going to suck shtein. I can't imagine trying to watch both games at a sports bar at 7 AM. I'll already be a wreck because the birds are playing the skins and there is definitely going to be some dip shtein skin fans with their stupid ass comments within beating range. I'll be on the verge of snapping. Phils better wrap this thing up tomorrow.
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on October 03, 2008, 03:39:40 PM
Phils goin to the Series!
NOT GOOD ENOUGH.
We need these iceholes to win it all. They can do it, too. They just need "good" Myers and the offense to play like they are capable.
Quote from: FastFreddie on October 04, 2008, 11:11:02 AM
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on October 03, 2008, 03:39:40 PM
Phils goin to the Series!
NOT GOOD ENOUGH.
We need these iceholes to win it all. They can do it, too. They just need "good" Myers and the offense to play like they are capable.
They win = never called the bums again
Just going and losing = farging bums
Quote from: SD_Eagle on October 04, 2008, 11:48:20 AM
They win = never called the bums again... until next season.
Just going and losing = farging bums
i have a 5:00 wedding, so th3 6:30 start time should give me just enough time to get drunk at the open bar before sneaking out of the reception to catch the game.
Quote from: phattymatty on October 04, 2008, 12:30:25 PM
i have a 5:00 wedding, so th3 6:30 start time should give me just enough time to get drunk at the open bar before sneaking out of the reception to catch the game.
For most weddings I've been to, you'd be doing well to START the reception by the time 6:30 rolls around.
i'm pretty sure its one of those non-religious jammies. 20 min. then cocktail hour.
Lucky groom.
Update: phatty's farged up right now. I think he just felt up the coat check girl.
Here we go goddammit; end this bitch tonight!
really, a semicolon?
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What a great AB from Werth.
shteinshow.
man moyer is really not getting any help with this strikezone. every borderline pitch is a ball.
if he can get out of this inning with only allowing one run, that's a major farging victory.
the Brewers came to the plate with a great approach but are falling back into their habits now
ball 2 was actually strike 3, but whatever, old man needs to get his shtein together
yeah, what the farg, he had hardy struck the farg out
Runge might be the worst balls & strikes umpire in the league. He's already squeezed Moyer more times in an inning than I've ever seen in an entire game.
Just disgusting.
Typical. But disgusting.
Bush gets strikes.
Moyer gets squeezed.
WAY TO GO CHOKE!!!
Come on boys, get these two back.
Choke Dawg with the gapper.
yeah Pat, don't swing at the 78 mph slop over the middle of the plate, belt high...icehole
jesus burrell is the slowest human being on the face of the earth
Holy shtein this is ridiculous. Runge is absolutely laughable with his calls.
I want to shoot Runge in his face. farging ridiculous.
dave bush
jayson werth should try to not look like an icehole here
nice job chuckles
Quote from: SunMo on October 04, 2008, 07:34:38 PM
jayson werth should try to not look like an icehole here
and yet he looks like an icehole thats been ravaged by a 14" dildo.
Whew, good play by Werth there & dumb base running by the trailer trash looking Corey Hart.
Chasey gettin' shtein started.
Howard and Burrell not doing shtein.
Vic up now...and Hardy stabs the shot by him.
farg!!!
This ump is beyond terrible.
A bunch of hard hit balls but they are right at the Brewers. Like they dont even have to move.
And add in BRIAN "ITS MY SHOW!" RUNGE and it ain't looking good. But the good is they have only scored the 2. Keep it close and get some lucky breaks with balls in the gaps later.
Quote from: Rome on October 04, 2008, 07:49:01 PM
Chasey gettin' shtein started.
You were right... the rest of the inning was shtein.
Is Burrell trying to suck?
luckily the Brewers bullpen blows almost as bad as the mets...if they can keep it close they might be ok
but seriously, dave farging bush
i'm feeling four letters and a broken heart here with Ruiz
some hard hit balls are going right at people, little bit of bad luck, but these douches have had chances. and continue to.
please matt stairs hit a homer, i'll be your bff
dave farging bush
They continue to crush them right at people.
They have to start going gaps sometime, right? Or dropping in?
This is ridiculous and aggravating.
I'm thisclose to giving up. How dare they!
Clay Condrey to the rescue!
Oh, and Matt Stairs? LOL - Uncle Fester makes me giggle.
TBS is beyond awful. Cameron gets hit (evidently) yet they don't even show a replay.
Burrell once again fargs up. Can he try and suck more this year?
Packers fans are booing Brian Runge now.
Welcome to reality you fat disgusting animals.
Corey Hart got JACKED UP!
That's a catch in my world, I don't care what the rule book says.
chase is an embarrassment
yea thats a catch, and nice job by the mvp of april to cash in on it. farging hack.
wow, it took 2 outs from the 3-4 hitters to get a guy in from 3rd...lineup efficiency!
chase utley should be shot, he is farging awful. put in iguchi.
Utley was terrible.
Burrell has looked zesty and his OF throw was stupid.
Howard was safe. These umpires blow.
My BP is up and I want to punch someone.
Burrell is clueless at the plate right now. Why in God's name is he in the facing a right handed pitcher? It's like it's April or May and the Phillies are doing their usual zesty job of not doing anything right and that includes the befuddled farg who manages them.
Someone find me stats of hits allowed to pitchers.
THEYALWAYS GIVE THEM UP.
A relief pitcher gets a single. And now Cameron gets one.
2 on with 1 out.
COME ON DURBIN.
Goddamn motherfargers. farging bullshtein umpires and now the Phils are doing stupid shtein again. Motherfarg,
farging loaded with one out.
GET A fargING DOUBLE PLAY YOU SINKERBALLING flag!
so now uncle stoopid takes burrell out of the game for jenkins?
Good thinking, actually. Burrell is absolute garbage right now and Werth is 10 times the player he is in the field.
yea but now the pitchers spot is right after choke, so that just might make the dobbsy card useless. but im happy to see manuel realized how god awful putrid burrell has been.
lol, so charlie is mr matchup all year but in the 7th inning of a playoff game he lets scott farging eyre just pitch to everybody
terrible way of handling the bullpen for chuckles, every move he made has been the wrong one. he used 2 multi inning guys (condrey and durbin) to get 5 outs. now he has to use madson for 4 outs, jc is the only bridge to lidge left (teehee).
doesnt help tomorrow that fatass is pitching and there is a 0% chance he makes it past the 5th.
he took moyer out too early, it was only 2-0 nothing and it forced him to use the bullpen too early
that move isnt the worst thing if he would have gotten 2 innings out of either durbin or condrey. that gets you into the 7th with some room to work. but yea, this has been terrible managing from charlie.
however, we're not even talking about that if these farging bats would wake up. you could argue that everyone one of their runs outside of the 1st run in game 2 were pure luck.
Now Rollins tries to bunt his way on with one out in the eight.
They're just throwing it away today, no doubt about it.
jason werth is going to look like a paraplegic trying to walk here
frontrunner with a pathetic attempt at a bunt single
Why is anyone swinging with Gagne pitching? Too funny.
I hope they smarten up between tonight and tomorrow
they are probably better off with werth getting out here. utley-choke-dobbs against what i can presume will be solomon torres isn't too bad.
Swing away, baby!
lol, Mike Cameron
How in God's name did Mike Cameron win three gold gloves?
:-D :-D :-D
He's black
lol they zero respect for utley letting trash like gagne face him
i was thinking the same thing...and utely tried so hard to get hit on the first pitch
GRITTY!
nice job, superstar.
Utley sucks
ACE OF SUCK
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Has anyone else seen the penis with ears wearing a Phillies cap and a Brewers t-shirt yet?
The only bright spot of this entire miserable farging night was watching Madson pitch. He looked excellent.
Last chance for the Bums...
Quote from: Rome on October 04, 2008, 09:54:12 PM
Has anyone else seen the penis with ears wearing a Phillies cap and a Brewers t-shirt yet?
yeah what a douche
munson?
Choje with the single.
Holy shtein. . .
why must they tease me so
Holy farging shtein part 2.
Rally time bitches!
Way to work the count, Feliz, you worthless motherfarging piece of farging shtein.
That probably could have been a triple play
and like that...it was gone
Awe - and now Joe Simpson is crying about Shane being unprofessional.
Boo.
Hoo.
What is this bullshtein?
Hahahaha. And now they're taking the run off the board. Too farging funny.
Typical. Bases loaded with none out and these c*nts can't even score a run.
well that just terrible. cock tease and then feliz with a terrible at bat, and manuel doesnt even bother pinch hitting for ruiz. farging brutal.
Quote from: SD_Eagle on October 04, 2008, 10:08:50 PM
What is this bullshtein?
Victorino had to slide. Because he ran into the fielder, it was ruled interference. Ball dead, runners have to go back.
Now I have to miss game 4 and the Eagles game, thanks fargfaces
I said it a few days ago - first thing they need to do in the offseason is get a legitimate starting catcher for this ballclub. Ruiz is brutal.
All around the most miserable game I've seen out of this bunch in a long time.
I'm missing BOTH games, dammit.
tomorrow could either be really good, or really bad. farging christ i need a break.
BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!! >:( >:(
This offense is HORRIBLE right now.
Welcome back June and July Phillies! Oh how we've missed you so. farging flag ass bitches.
MOTHERfargING BUMS!
I'll watch both. I'll have the Eagles on the big screen and the chokers on a television right next to it.
Hopefully they will be the Phillies once again tomorrow, tonight they were the farging bums.
Tonight they were tighter than MDS' vagina.
They came out grinding the bat handles down to dust. If they cannot rough Jeff Suppan up tomorrow I may kill someone.
See ya'll on Tuesday. That was just farging pathetic today. I just had a bad feeling going into today. Everyone just way to confident. How can anyone be confident with this bullpen and the offense scoring in 3 out of 27 innings. not good, not good at all.
Cross Wes Helms off your offseason wish list! (http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=3624428)
So I heard the Phillies were like playing or something.
victorino 2nd, werth 6th, dobbs 7th today.
and so it continues.
i hate the phillies, they have to ruin my day watching the birds beat the racists, and there is a good chance one or both teams will lose
I just need one of the two to win. That's not too much to ask.
Quote from: FastFreddie on October 05, 2008, 11:45:19 AM
That's not too much to ask.
This is most likely not a true statement. I've got a bad feeling about both teams today.
Me too. Bums.
when is someone going to start the "Available Catchers This Off Season" thread? watching Ruiz bat makes my eyes bleed.
thunder sticks? please.
is this same icehole behind the plate? terrible calls so far.
PATSY!!!!!!!!!!!
did I hear them booing? no thunder sticks?
I am real close to taking a thunder stick to these three announcers. facially and anally.
Good lord. Were these three clowns in the booth as apologetic, excuse making, cheerleading for the phils yesterday as they have been for the Brewers? I had to listen to most of the game on the radio yesterday so I was spared this dribble.
Quote from: Don Ho on October 05, 2008, 02:21:10 PM
Good lord. Were these three clowns in the booth as apologetic, excuse making, cheerleading for the phils yesterday as they have been for the Brewers? I had to listen to most of the game on the radio yesterday so I was spared this dribble.
No. We've been blessed with ex-Braves players and current Brewers announcers covering this series. Not biased at all.
Hart looks like the GEICO caveman!
I just had a heart attack! Smoltz complimented the Phils.
Madson please bring it.
NICE play by Howard.
nice to see you Geo. I was getting lonely over here. total sensory overload now that FOX switched to the birds game.
Quote from: Don Ho on October 05, 2008, 03:38:00 PM
nice to see you Geo. I was getting lonely over here. total sensory overload now that FOX switched to the birds game.
TV on Phils, computer on the Iggles.
Hopefully the Phils can wrap this up quickly. Thunderstorm brewing, so I'll lose my signal in a little bit.
Only thing for which cable beats my dish - loss of signal in a storm.
I give up on the birds today.
Here you go brother. 3 away. C'mon Lidge,
1
confidence level in Lidge = confidence level in Akers
YES!!!
Well at least one Philly team didn't choke today. Go Phils!
I really want to see Matt Stairs rip open one of those champagne corks with his teeth.
Quote from: Don Ho on October 05, 2008, 03:58:55 PM
confidence level in Lidge = confidence level in Akers
At least Lidge is still making them.
Seriously, if Akers were barely clearing the crossbar or knocking them off the upright and through, that would be one thing.
Lidge is still getting it done. Akers is not, and needs to be euthanized.
Hamels: "hopefully we turn this town more red than green"
Quote from: BigEd76 on October 05, 2008, 04:24:46 PM
Hamels: "hopefully we turn this town more red than green"
The Eagles are definitely doing their part to make it happen.
The skins have done their part also.
Great frigging win today. Nothing like no doubter especially when the Eagles were busy shteinting the bed.
And what the hell got into Patricia today?
Quote from: Rome on October 05, 2008, 04:41:48 PM
Great frigging win today. Nothing like no doubter especially when the Eagles were busy shteinting the bed.
And what the hell got into Patricia today?
The possibillity of free agent dollars. :deion
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Wait, is Len Dykstra still on the roster?
He runs into walls!!
Why are you talking about Aaron Rowand?
farg LA
Oh, my bad.
He has a bad back!
Yay...im drunk as farg. Go phils.
Sweeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeet
manny, ethier, kampe and kent scare me. go phils!!!!
blanon was money tdaoy!
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on October 05, 2008, 08:31:25 PM
manny, ethier, kampe and kent scare me. go phils!!
blanon was money tdaoy!
I'm quoting this for posterity.
was there a sale on whiskey at the trailer park or something? jesus phreak is out of his mind.
ha
Quote from: MDS on October 05, 2008, 08:41:25 PM
was there a sale on whiskey at the trailer park or something? jesus phreak is out of his mind.
I drank zero liqour...only beer. Like 5 pitchers of it and three srtongbows. great phils gane, zesty eagle sgame. and i almost cheated on my woman today,....damn,.
are you mocking munson or are you really drunk?
i'm saying combo of both
no, i am really farged up. I drank too much today, thanks to the eagles. i put away a few pitchers, then the bar tenbder got me chugging STrongbows...oh boy. I am not as bad as I was then I got home, but I am stll ripped. NO mocking,
At least the Phils won.
oh, there's plenty of mocking...just all of it directed at you
ESPN's SportsNation poll:
Which team will win the NLCS?*
58% = PHILLIES
Which team has the better starting rotation?
56% = PHILLIES
Which team has the better bullpen?
63% = PHILLIES
Which team has the better top of the lineup?
68% = PHILLIES
Should the Phillies pitch to Manny Ramirez if first base is open?
51% = yes
* = The map is pretty much split from the Ohio/PA border down, with Arkansas, Michigan, Colorado and Alaska also picking the Philies, Vermont picking the Dodgers, and New York is undecided (or hates both teams equally).
over/under for number of boards easy posted that on: 6
Pat Burrelll 4 NLDS MVP!
only 2. i win
and it looks like Friday's game is a 4pm start because TBS gets the 8pm slot. f'ing AL
are you farging serious? WHAT THE farg. im flying out to cover the central michigan/temple game and was set to be in the hotel for the 800 start. farg you funholes.
Quote from: BigEd76 on October 06, 2008, 12:50:16 AM
only 2. i win
and it looks like Friday's game is a 4pm start because TBS gets the 8pm slot. f'ing AL
TBS? I thought we were done with these clowns.
TBS gets the ALCS.
Quote from: BigEd76 on October 06, 2008, 12:50:16 AM
only 2. i win
You didn't pick the under first, loser.
philly ratings
eagles- 674,000
phils- 410,000
considering phils were on cable, it's pretty much what you expect. id submit most people went to a bar or hooked up two tvs in one area or relentlessly flipped and i have no clue how ratings tabulate when people only stay on the channel for a few minutes.
how do those total numbers translate into share %'s
and how are two of the top five markets in the country including the #2 market not the primetime game friday...are the red sox really that big around the country that they get top billin even playing against trash like tampa...its sickening
something needs to be done about the red sox...something bad
Quote from: ice grillin you on October 07, 2008, 08:24:35 AM
and how are two of the top five markets in the country including the #2 market not the primetime game friday...are the red sox really that big around the country that they get top billin even playing against trash like tampa...its sickening
I hate the playoff scheduling.
However, it's flipped on monday with the Phils/Dodgers game at 8 and the Sawkx/Rays at 4:30.
of course it is....because i have off monday
I am absolutely enthralled by that tidbit.
there are 3 days set with 2 lcs games on the same day.
2 of those phils have 800 game.
im guessing friday is to give tbs a boost for alcs game 1 by putting it in primetime. its probably in their contract or something. silly idea from mlb, just put the two at the same time.
on the bright side, its 435 not 400, so when my flight gets into lansing around 600, ill still be able to catch the last half of the game.
phils have one game that doesn't start at 8:22. it just happens to be the one on friday. big whoop.
Seems like despite Vegas favoring the Phils, as far as media and fans are concerned the Dodgers are going to walk.
There's a profile on Urbina on E:60 right now.
His girlfriend is hot. She's from Queens and used to work in Shea. She lives in Venezuela now and visits him three times a week and brings him food, Hoyda (gets conjugal visits) and laundry.
He's got AC, internet and satellite TV in his cell. He also owns and operates a restaurant within the prison. He is appealing the sentence and hopes to get out soon. But those prisons are so violent that no guards go inside. They only patrol the perimeter.
This E:60 show is so cheesy. The whole black and white discussion setting after stories is stupid. With all involved acting like they care and they take notes. Please.
King - Game 1 (Lowe)
Wife Beater - Game 2 (Billingsly)
Geezer - Game 3 (Jap)
Fatty - Game 4 (Maddux?)
Division Series ratings and viewership.
Dodgers 3, Cubs 0
Game 1: 3.5 (4.1 cable rating), 5.4 million viewers (Wed., 10/1, 6:30 PM TBS)
Game 2: 2.6 (3.0 cable rating), 4.0 million viewers (Thu., 10/2, 9:30 PM TBS)
Game 3: 3.2 (3.8 cable rating), 5.2 million viewers (Sat., 10/4, 10 PM TBS)
Red Sox 3, Angels 1
Game 1: N/A (N/A cable rating), 4.4 million viewers (Wed., 10/1, 10 PM TBS)
Game 2: 3.3 (3.8 cable rating), 5.3 million viewers (Fri., 10/3, 9:30 PM TBS)
Game 3: 3.9 (4.5 cable rating), 6.2 million viewers (Sun., 10/5, 7:30 PM TBS)
Game 4: not available (Mon., 10/6, 8:30 PM TBS)
Rays 3, White Sox 1
Game 1: N/A (N/A cable rating), 2.6 million viewers (Thu., 10/2, 2:30 PM TBS)
Game 2: 2.6 (3.0 cable rating), 3.9 million viewers (Fri., 10/3, 6 PM TBS)
Game 3: not available (Sun., 10/5, 4 PM TBS)
Game 4: not available (Mon., 10/6, 5 PM TBS)
Phillies 3, Brewers 1
Game 1: N/A (N/A cable rating), 2.8 million viewers (Wed., 10/1, 3 PM TBS)
Game 2: 2.7 (3.2 cable rating), 4.2 million viewers (Thu., 10/2, 6 PM TBS)
Game 3: 2.9 (3.3 cable rating), 4.6 million viewers (Sat., 10/4, 6 PM TBS)
Game 4: not available (Sun., 10/5, 1 PM TBS)
one other local viewership tidbit, game 3 and 4 of the sox series outdrew all but 2 games of the nba finals in boston. great sports town.
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on October 07, 2008, 07:17:40 PM
This E:60 show is so cheesy. The whole black and white discussion setting after stories is stupid. With all involved acting like they care and they take notes. Please.
saw that piece on Urbina and agreed that the whole black and white discussion table is so staged with all those clowns acting like they're really into each other's stories. very weak show.
Predictions anyone?
Phils in 6.
I said it in the haiku thread; Phillies in five.
Man, I want a WS appearance so bad.
I think ROllins will be the NLCS MVP with him and Victorino being the jumper cables for the offense. They have to get on base for them to win. Get on base, run and hope that Utley has broken out of his slump enough to muster up even a sac fly when he has to, hope Howard sees pitches, and hope Burrell crushes so Howard has to see pitches.
Less than two hours!
WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
I want Jeanne Zelasko's purple shiny lips on my cork.
Oh, and they just showed cheesesteaks being cooked on the grill at The Bank! All is right with the world!
LETS
GO
PHILLIES
I thought that went out. Bad pitch by Hamels.
pitch to him Cholly, its always a good idea
And Cole needs to play games with Manram
farging Manny. >:(
Season's over. Time to move on.
pitches right down the middle to manny probably aren't a good idea
man did manny quiet down the crowd
Someone better put that douchebag on his ass for showboating after he hit that ball. Just farging drill his ass.
yeah, the NLCS is just the place to send messages like that
Quote from: Rome on October 09, 2008, 08:31:13 PM
Someone better put that douchebag on his ass for showboating after he hit that ball. Just farging drill his ass.
But Hbionic likes that
manny being manny
how do you groove one to manny and cant throw one down the middle 3-2 to loney
Way to go, Chooch
Quote from: SunMo on October 09, 2008, 08:32:19 PM
yeah, the NLCS is just the place to send messages like that
You're right. They should wait for spring training next year.
Ruiz sucks
I'm still waiting for someone to drill Reyes
I'm already sick of Joe Buck
You can practically hear Joe Buck masturbating every time he mentions Ramirez.
how can you not love manny...i even liked him on the red sox...and i feel sick for even saying that
Fox wants a Boston/L.A. series more than a McCain/Palin winning ticket next month.
Quote from: ice grillin you on October 09, 2008, 08:36:40 PM
how can you not love manny...i even liked him on the red sox...and i feel sick for even saying that
Please shut the farg up.
Quote from: Rome on October 09, 2008, 08:37:33 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on October 09, 2008, 08:36:40 PM
how can you not love manny...i even liked him on the red sox...and i feel sick for even saying that
Please shut the farg up.
I second that
Someone needs to take a couple of hours and teach Howard how to hit the farging ball on the ground to the left side of the infield. I'm thinking the hitting coach but that's just crazy talk.
Is that Turtle working the camera behind Ken Rosenthal?
Nice inning from Gawd. Time to get some runs, you Romes.
God I hate Joe Buck
lol..."that's a GREAT play by Manny Ramirez"
werthless
welcome to the 5-6 games...this lineup is going to get exposed like a hunts point ho this whole series
Quote from: ice grillin you on October 09, 2008, 09:02:16 PM
welcome to the 5-6 games...this lineup is going to get exposed like a hunts point ho this whole series
Worst part about all this is, the Phillies are getting pitches to hit. Especially in the 2nd. They just foul the pitch off or hit into a DP.
Thats Ryan being Ryan.
great pitch
two innings to late
that was a great inning zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
how many times are these idiots going to try and pull a backdoor slider?
nice hustle there Werth. farging deer in the headlights.
obligatory red sox chatter
"what a game that was!!!"
"what a SERIES that was!!!!!"
it was a farging awful series that the red sox dominated
joe buck just might kill himself if they don't get a BoSox/Dodgers WS.
no one panic. our "sizzling" bats are gonna light up CBP. we won't be able to keep track off all the hits.
they will get a homer down 4-0 in the 8th and lose 4-1
manufacture runs? starting to make a lot more sense.
i hate two out rallies so much
safe to say that was huge - against the phils.
Furcal shtein his pants as Victorino hauled ass down to first.
victorino actually bailed out on that play
yes
CHASE !!!
and choke dog brings us back to earth.
utley is the key to the series...if he doesnt hit they dont win...if he does they have a great chance
if choke turns over on that slider one more time im gonna lose a remote
BURRELL!!!!!!
has anyone ever fallen off quicker in a game than lowe
holy farging shtein
burrell looked like he was ready to burst into tears around the base paths
how can a human being sweat like Derek Lowe when it's 70 degrees at night? He's been pitting since the second pitch of the game.
:o
dude, i sweat in short sleeves in 40 degree weather
btw...prepare for major ballpark bitching after this game, they were already working that angle before the game started.
i was just about to post how much of a joke the park is....again
why is beimel warming up when utley and howard arent until at least next inning
Quote from: SunMo on October 09, 2008, 10:15:00 PM
btw...prepare for major ballpark bitching after this game, they were already working that angle before the game started.
I'll never understand that since they're playing in the same park. It's not the like the bums can calculate their hits to go right over the fence.
no ones saying its an advantage to the phillies.....just that park is a travesty
Quote from: SD_Eagle on October 09, 2008, 10:17:26 PM
Quote from: SunMo on October 09, 2008, 10:15:00 PM
btw...prepare for major ballpark bitching after this game, they were already working that angle before the game started.
I'll never understand that since they're playing in the same park. It's not the like the bums can calculate their hits to go right over the fence.
i'm sure joe buck will find an angle where they actually can calculate their hits.
well, there goes any chance of us signing Derek Lowe in the off season.
DeWitt almost made me Deshtein my pants.
Hamels is over 100 pitches but his stuff is as good as at any point in this game.
one more game like this and hamels might get his king moniker back
ugh... Madson in the pen warming up
i don't know what's worse, having to watch Madson pitch to Ramirez this inning or listen to Joe Buck mess himself over Ramirez.
madsen has been lights out for two months now....chill
Taguchi? WTF Cholly.
might as well left cole in to bunt
wtf? where was Dobbs? to busy being "miced up"?
Rollins was farging safe
oh bullshtein!! he was safe by a farging mile. say it joe buck! say it!
he looked safe to me
Quote from: ice grillin you on October 09, 2008, 10:32:16 PM
madsen has been lights out for two months now....chill
i wish i could chill. unfortunately i remember black friday all to well. my wife won't watch these games with me as the expletives are flying.
Quote from: Seabiscuit36 on October 09, 2008, 10:34:53 PM
he looked safe to me
god forbid FOX do a follow up when they come back from a break.
Tim McCarver forgot that he saw Cole throw the best changeup on the phillies for 7 innings
Feliz needs to come up with that ball
why is romero not in the game here
i wont say that cause the replay didnt do it justice...it was smoked...but he should have tried to backhand it to give himself a better chance
yeah, it was a tough play
props to madsen
if this is who madsen is the phillies are playing seven inning games for the next three years
When the ball was first hit I didn't know he got a piece of it.
An insurance run would be nice here
lol double tommy john
that was the old Madson
Here comes Mitch
im so nervous about this...it wouldnt be right if he didnt blow his first save of the season here
it wouldn't be right...but it would be philadelphia
nervous is an understatement.
shtein did just come out.
1 down
Nice play by Victorino
only in philly could you be nervous about a perfect closer
his slider is filthy tonight...no worries from this guy
Quote from: SunMo on October 09, 2008, 10:55:10 PM
his slider is filthy tonight...no worries from this guy
not as filthy as my mouth.
2 down
Another nice catch from Victorino
c'mon lidge. holy crap these are to close.
perfect so cal guy
blake dewitt
what a loser
i don't hate the dodgers but i really hate joe buck.
1 down
7 to go
LIGHTS OUT, BITCHES! :yay
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stop the gay fireworks
great win
see you all tomorrow.
good job phils!
Still all or nothing for the Phils. I don't like that. Good to see Utley get one, though.
The offense needs to get some rallies going. They need to be able to scratch some runs.
Great pitching by Hamels, Madson and Lidge. And a win is a win is a win.
Quote from: ice grillin you on October 09, 2008, 10:54:31 PM
only in philly could you be nervous about a perfect closer
:-D
I said the same thing. I was nervous. All the bitter Astros fans have been talking shtein all week about Lidge blowing his first save in crunch time.
Great win. Lowe was on with that sinker. He had 2 K's, 11 GO and 1 FO at one point. But he flipped a few up there and that was enough.
With Madson shedding the arsonist label and Lidge, I feel good. Huge to get that first win tonight in this fashion.
YEA MOTHER fargER WHAT NOW YOU STUPID PUERTO RICAN PIECE OF shtein MANNY GO HOME YOU farg YOU fargING fargTARD PIECE OF TRASH IDIOT YOU STUPID HOMO farg YOU O3PWNED BY KING COLE stillupfront's mom HOLLA TO YO BOIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII
MDS ladies and gentleman.
He's our mascot here at :CF
you farging hick i will drive down to texas and kill you and then you will be dead and at that point i cant help but think you will not be happy but i will because you farging suck the big black cock like a coke whore you farging jew
:-D :-D
Man, what is your major malfunction?
i was all boozed up or something ooop just farted anyway go phils
holy shtein MDS. You sound like Phreak on Sunday night. :-D :-D :-D
Quote from: MDS on October 10, 2008, 12:06:53 AM
you farging hick i will drive down to texas and kill you and then you will be dead and at that point i cant help but think you will not be happy but i will because you farging suck the big black cock like a coke whore you farging jew
POTY?
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Quote from: MDS on October 10, 2008, 01:19:46 AM
i was all boozed up or something ooop just farted anyway go phils
:-D :-D
Better be careful with the farts today, you might end up getting a little more than you bargained for.
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yo son sarge looks pimpin in that hat
Sarge is a pimp in sheeps clothes. He was trying to bang Alyssa Milano when she was in the studio.
Anyone going to the game today? If you are Rome wants to know if you could pick him up a program.
im saving my money for the world series
going to a philly bar in bmore with some of my boys to watch the game
im so hyped for this farging game...can you imagine the phils having a 2-0 nlcs lead...its almost unfathomable
Quote from: MDS on October 10, 2008, 12:06:53 AM
you farging hick i will drive down to texas and kill you and then you will be dead and at that point i cant help but think you will not be happy but i will because you farging suck the big black cock like a coke whore you farging jew
I will now be logging on to owlsports.com with regularity.
Charlie's mom died :(
She just died? What was she like 140?
QuoteOct. 10 -- SAD NEWS | 1:05 PM
BY SCOTT LAUBER
Just arrived at the Bank, and word is beginning to filter through the press box that Charlie Manuel's mother, June Manuel, has passed away in Buena Vista, Va. She was 87 years old. Charlie was scheduled to be in the interview room at 1:15, but that has been canceled. Right now, as I look down at the field, Charlie is standing alone at the batting cage. The Phillies are stretching. They will take batting practice in a bit. No word yet on whether Manuel will manage today.
We'll have more as it becomes available.
Win one for the Gipper
this one's for mom!!
heard charlie got a huge ovation during last night's introductions.
I don't think the Phillies have to worry about the loss interfering with his judgement.
Quote from: SD_Eagle on October 10, 2008, 01:27:26 PM
She just died? What was she like 140?
if she borned charlie out of her im gonna say shes well above two bills
If she's 87, charlie is 64. I was expecting her to be 12 when she got hitched in WV
like charlie is one of her first 5 kids
Dodger Stadium
Field dimensions Left Field: 330 ft (101 m)
Medium Left-Center: 360 ft (110 m)
True Left-Center: 375 ft (114 m)
Center Field: 395 ft (120 m)*
True Right-Center: 375 ft (114 m)
Medium Right-Center: 360 ft (110 m)
Right Field: 330 ft (101 m)
CBP
Field dimensions Left Field - 329 ft (100 m)
Left-Center - 374 ft (114 m)
Deep Left-Center - 387 ft (118 m)
Left of Center Field - 409 ft (125 m)
Center Field - 401 ft (122 m)
Deep Right-Center - 398 ft (121 m)
Right-Center - 369 ft (112 m)
Right Field - 330 ft (101 m)
Quote from: SunMo on October 10, 2008, 02:54:23 PM
Dodger Stadium
Field dimensions Left Field: 330 ft (101 m)
Medium Left-Center: 360 ft (110 m)
True Left-Center: 375 ft (114 m)
Center Field: 395 ft (120 m)*
True Right-Center: 375 ft (114 m)
Medium Right-Center: 360 ft (110 m)
Right Field: 330 ft (101 m)
CBP
Field dimensions Left Field - 329 ft (100 m)
Left-Center - 374 ft (114 m)
Deep Left-Center - 387 ft (118 m)
Left of Center Field - 409 ft (125 m)
Center Field - 401 ft (122 m)
Deep Right-Center - 398 ft (121 m)
Right-Center - 369 ft (112 m)
Right Field - 330 ft (101 m)
Those dimensions can be misleading without seeing them
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under 350 in "medium" power alleys is ridiculous
utleys homer last night is a fly out in la
Are you kidding? Utley's HR went 5 rows deep. But Burrell's HR barely made it to the 1st row. And for all the crap that's said about CBP the dimensions aren't that far off from other stadiums.
joe buck's got the juice rag out as manny's up.
can meyers throw one of those pitches at the FOX broadcast booth and put us out of our misery?
sit down bitch.
that phanatic player intro was classic!
I hate Joe Buck.
Seriously.
Listening to him is just plain awful. His Dodger love is ruining the game.
Quote from: PhillyGirl on October 10, 2008, 04:51:32 PM
I hate Joe Buck.
Seriously.
Listening to him is just plain awful. His Dodger love is ruining the game.
I am so bummed the mlb.com audio with the Phillies crew has about a one minute delay. I am so desperate not to have to listen to this geek that I have Ike Reese on WIP in the background. Give me wheels any day.
oh joe, i bet you're so happy now.
That was the most "well hit" out ever, apparently. ::)
Meals blew the call on Loney. He should have been struck out.
Come on offense!!
Was that a strike on Burrell there? :sly
Holy shtein, Ruiz on Roids!
Quote from: PhillyGirl on October 10, 2008, 05:05:01 PM
That was the most "well hit" out ever, apparently. ::)
can you believe this guy? kiss my ass joe buck!
DOBBS!
RUIZ!!!
CHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOCH!
He's 3/4 so far this series.
YES!
MYERS!!!!
ahahahaha!
2-1 Phils.
YES!!
I love how Buck was going on about how zesty Myers is at the plate before Ruiz was up. LOL
Meyers being recruited by the Jamacian track team.
thats your boy Don Ho!!
2-out rally. LOL.
MAUI NO KAI OI!
howard is pathetic right now
otherwise great inning
With Utley up 3-0 I was already envisioning the Howard strike out.
memo to management:
send Howard to hitting a breaking ball 101 this winter.
Only observation Joe Schmuck has made that I can applaud him on "Dodgers aren't even disguising the breaking ball to Howard. Keep throwing them until he hits it."
Quote from: Don Ho on October 10, 2008, 05:28:50 PM
memo to management:
send Howard to hitting a breaking ball 101 this winter.
Only observation Joe Schmuck has made that I can applaud him on "Dodgers aren't even disguising the breaking ball to Howard. Keep throwing them until he hits it."
Howard = Pedro Cerrano
Wow, Buck's getting a little over excited that the Dodgers have 2 men on.
Dobbs you knuckle head. c'mon.
get this mother farger out.
uh, that pitch was strike 3.
Quote from: PhillyGirl on October 10, 2008, 05:41:41 PM
uh, that pitch was strike 3.
totally.
major disaster avoided.
That inning was too damn close. Need more runs. :-X
Pat Burrell found his swing. Nice.
the only ones left to find their are Werth and Howard.
And thank you Jayson Werth. :-D
Damn, Burrell is slow as dirt.
does burrell run with 50 lb weight boots on? i thought for sure he'd score. what did Lopes stop watch get that as? 19.0? 19.6?
There's the Ruiz we all know and love.
speed kills.
OMG MYERS!!!!!!!!!!
Myers wants to win this farging game! Yeah!
Meyers you beautiful sob!!
Howard: 0-2, 2 K
Myers: 2-2, 3 RBI
:-D
someone had better call CBP security to check on joe buck during commercial break. he just might attempt to hang himself from the pressbox.
Atta baby Brett!!
Amazing.
McCarver and Buck are stunned.
farg LA and all the corksuckers who were slurping their scrotes.
oh, it's Jun from Lost.
Chan Ho Park is still alive?
sorry jimmy but that was a good pitch.
of course Buck screws up the pronunciation.
and yes, my son loves the shtein.
Quote from: Don Ho on October 10, 2008, 05:57:09 PM
sorry jimmy but that was a good pitch.
Ump started to call the high borderline pitch. Hope he starts doing it for Myers, too. He can use it.
Victorino!
I believe that was "farg" in Korean.
for those in the wonder, Spam Musubi..........
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Quote from: Don Ho on October 10, 2008, 05:58:36 PM
of course Buck screws up the pronunciation.
and yes, my son loves the shtein.
I expect that to be prepared when i come out in December
Quote from: Seabiscuit36 on October 10, 2008, 06:03:46 PM
Quote from: Don Ho on October 10, 2008, 05:58:36 PM
of course Buck screws up the pronunciation.
and yes, my son loves the shtein.
I expect that to be prepared when i come out in December
I am going to make Ryan eat some of that shtein when we hook up Sunday to watch the birds/niners game.
bottom of the third? we're going to be here until midnight - Hawaii time!
He'll try it, shtein i've never eaten Spam in my life, but love sushi. I know we're going sushi splurging when we're out there, i'll just ask for the Victorino Special
Howard sucks by the way, but he avoided swinging at his head on that one.
hey Joe...it's the 3rd farging inning, stop managing like it's the 8th
Howard can't even hit a loud foul today, but manages a walk.
Torre may blow through the entire bullpen by the end of the 4th at the rate he's going.
Quote from: Geowhizzer on October 10, 2008, 06:09:17 PM
Howard can't even hit a loud foul today, but manages a walk.
Torre may blow through the entire bullpen by the end of the 4th at the rate he's going.
fine with me, burn up arms
Walking Howard after getting him in that hole... another embarrassment for the Dodgers.
I see a typical Burrell K here.
MacDonald looks like he's 15 years old. Did the Dodgers pick him up between classes at Edison High School on the way to LAX?
Wow, this team is on today. Myers with 3 rbi's fargin awesome!
I really, really can't take Joe Buck anymore. I may just turn on Wheels and the boys and listen to the delay.
"It's a start" oh STFU already.
that's for you joe!
Buck refuses to believe the Dodgers won't win. Assface.
At first I thought they were trying to get people to keep watching.....now he's trying to make it like the Dodgers will be back in it in a moment.
bad move pitching to this guy. wild pitch just put these fargers back in it.
I knew as soon as I hit "Post" it was doomed.
Manny is a farging icehole. Almost as bad as Jose.
fargin' Manny.
hey choke dawg, can you do that?
Manny talkin ish down by 3 :-D farg you
Dammit, he jammed Manny, and it still went out. :-D :boom
if this wasn't the playoffs i'd love to see meyers drill that sob the next at bat. i mean clean him out. for good.
I've had the tv on mute watching, then after reading about the announcers I turned it on, holy crap how did we end up with the LA local feed. :boo
Nice finger wag, i remember that little move fired up the phils recently
Quote from: Don Ho on October 10, 2008, 06:27:04 PM
if this wasn't the playoffs i'd love to see meyers drill that sob the next at bat. i mean clean him out. for good.
Fargen drill him, and drill him hard!!
just keep hittin boys it's all good.
Quote from: phillymic2000 on October 10, 2008, 06:27:23 PM
I've had the tv on mute watching, then after reading about the announcers I turned it on, holy crap how did we end up with the LA local feed. :boo
do you have a barf bag near you? razor blades? rope? Drano? it's really bad. buck is sickening.
Werth is really bad right now.
if meyers gets a hit here i'll cry,
:'( :'( :'(
Myers' bat must have something to do with the particle collider that CERN built. This is retarded.
I want Manny to die a horrible death.
those runs would have been huge. shtein jimmy!
Quote from: Don Ho on October 10, 2008, 06:39:06 PM
those runs would have been huge. shtein jimmy!
The poor devil seems to have contracted Ryan Howard disease.
Quote from: Geowhizzer on October 10, 2008, 06:52:00 PM
Quote from: Don Ho on October 10, 2008, 06:39:06 PM
those runs would have been huge. shtein jimmy!
The poor devil seems to have contracted Ryan Howard disease.
between he, Werth and Howard I don't know who looks more lost at the plate.
here we go...............
c'mon patsy. hit the mofo otta here.
Please, Patricia. Get Utley in.
Quote from: Geowhizzer on October 10, 2008, 06:57:15 PM
Please, Patricia. Get Utley in.
we both knew that was asking to much. way to much.
i can't watch.
thank you god.
Quote from: Don Ho on October 10, 2008, 07:07:00 PM
thank you god.
:-D
Fortunately, I was giving my son a bath.
i thought the playoffs were supposed to be fun. i have a knot in my gut.
Apparently Joe Buck has now professed his man love for James McDonald. Sorry Manny.
I've been watching on Mute.
I switched to espn radio, too brutal on the tv. And yes the life of philly fans, up three in the 7th and we are on edge, brutal life we live.
:-X BREATHE..... :-X
SPAM MUSUBI!!
MVP.
Madson you really suck.
that's right jimmy, no sense of urgency here.
Howard is going to go 0 for Philly
this Kershaw is pretty damm good.
and your bringing in a new pitcher to face Werth because...?????
Here comes Mitch
Lidge could have afforded to challenge Manny there. Hoyda.
He should have thrown a fastball to Looney there.
pretty sure Todd just got some face time
2-0
2 down 6 to go
Lidge is going to kill me before this is all over.
Quote from: SunMo on October 10, 2008, 08:07:14 PM
pretty sure Todd just got some face time
girl waving the towel?
:evil :evil
2-0.
The curse of Black Friday is over!!!
Congrats. That was a good game. Now the series goes to L.A. I think Philly looks good, especially if Howard can get right.
fargin yes
I haven't really taken notice of the Phillies 'till the end of the year. Howard is a power hittin' s.o.b. He doesn't hit for much avg. but when he gets a hold of 'em, they go a long way. I was checking his stats, he had 153 hits and 48 home runs. Thats almost a third of every thing he hits, he's going deep with! Whats he been in the league for, three years?
I hate the Dodgers, and would like to see him start getting hot. Phillies will need him in L.A.
Huge win. Simply huge.
The fact they scored without the HR was nice. And the back end of the BP is money. Wild Thing Lidge started to come out tonight, but he dropped the hammer quick.
Vic's catch was great.
Now...go finish these farging bitches off.
I watched the game on and off all day because I was taking a recertification class. I actually told the instructor I had the shteins around 6:45 so he let me go early.
I can't believe this team is up 2-0 in the NLCS. Just incredible. They're only six wins away from a World Series win. Six.
Can this really be happening for us?
no
After his latest antics, Manny should be Mandingo'd now. Forget drilling him with a baseball. Toss his ass into a boiling pot filled with potatoes, carrots & tomatoes at this point.
Quote from: Rome on October 10, 2008, 09:11:24 PM
I watched the game on and off all day because I was taking a recertification class. I actually told the instructor I had the shteins around 6:45 so he let me go early.
I can't believe this team is up 2-0 in the NLCS. Just incredible. They're only six wins away from a World Series win. Six.
Can this really be happening for us?
Knock off that damned optimism, and get back to declaring the season over.
The farging drought is 20 days from being over.
Victorino was told after the game that his grandmother had died. Great day for the Phillies, bad day for Phillies families.
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People let me tell ya 'bout my best friend...
Quote from: SunMo on October 10, 2008, 08:07:14 PM
pretty sure Todd just got some face time
was there a camera on my rental car along route 127?
i guess it was some other malnourished douche looking jew then
awwww, thats sweet of you johnny.
you're not nourished unless you're drinking Bud Lime
Quote from: SunMo on October 11, 2008, 07:59:53 AM
i guess it was some other malnourished douche looking jew then
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I wanted to see Manny try to fight Myers. Myers would've beat the shtein out of Manny. Myers is a fargin brawler.
Does Myers fight dudes, though? I thought he only slapped around women.
Quote from: FastFreddie on October 11, 2008, 07:33:07 PM
Does Myers fight dudes, though? I thought he only slapped around women.
Manny is a woman. And yeah, she needs two black eyes like the uppity bitch that she is.
LETS GO PHILS... Get the Triphecta
I can't stand Fox's pregame show. The Dodgers are down 2-0 and all they've done is talked about how great the Dodgers are. It's sickening.
Quote from: Rome on October 12, 2008, 08:11:17 PM
I can't stand Fox's pregame show. The Dodgers are down 2-0 and all they've done is talked about how great the Dodgers are. It's sickening.
cry more....thatll help
No chance the Phillies win on the road without Westbrook.
no chance your mother knows who your father is
Lot of empty seats...fans must be stuck in traffic
That Sunday work traffic on those three highways are a bitch.
Nice job, Grit.
he was safe
If there was any doubt who's going to get the questionable calls...
He was clearly safe.
yep.
Announcers actually said. This place will be packed by the end of the night :-D
Yes he was. Doesn't matter, though. This game is going to be a carbon copy of the Brewers game 3.
Come on old man
Great start.
Moyer is a pinata tonight.
One day Pat will learn to throw to 2nd.
i hope this is moyers last start ever for the phillies
ruh rooh
This will not end well.
No way.
It'll be like 5-0
wtf? he didn't try to move. and lol at the fans making a big deal, like moyer could hurt anyone with a pitch.
another F you to Fox, have Danny Devito announcing the line up, drunk and admitting he's a dodger fan, douches. :boo
sit down beeeatch
Pat Sajak
come on hold them at 2
Wow...come on Moyer...get outta this with 2 is huge.
Well, farg that.
5-0 like I said.
GREAT job Moyer, you sonofabitch.
ouch
This is like watching the Eagles D all over again
wow, now we get to hear the announcers stroke the dodgers all night again
That and the I love LA song.
A crying shame that the stadium is half empty.
farging bandwagon fans.
You can't give up a 3 run double to DeWitt when you get up 0-2. Unbelievable. Jesus
Howard lead off double
Burrell and Wert go swinging for the fences.
Come on fargbags...gotta chip away. Get this run home, Feliz.
There ya go.
1 run is a start
And Moyer gives it up faster than a whore.
Get him out.
Motherfarg
He should have never come out to start the inning
Our game 7 starter looked awesome tonight huh
I really wish that would have hit him
this whole throwing inside thing is what makes baseball gay.
Martin gets pissed.
Lowe told Kuroda to hit someone.
Wonder if they'll clear tonight?
Jimmy's getting frustrated, they keep ringing him up. Plus the call at 1st in Philly...
There it is.
Here we go!!
Threw at his head!
Shane should have charged the mound. Beat his ass Shane.
Benches clear!!
farging Manny
Someone needs to put one in Mannys neck
Ramirez runs his f@ggot mouth as soon as there's 10 of his teammates standing around him.
I'd drill his punk ass for sure now. Kill that piece of sh*t.
yup..he turns into a MMA fighter as soon as he has a bunch of guys holding him back
farging Lopes and Mariano Duncan talking shtein now. :-D
Buck and McCarver are ridiculous. McCarver says the safets place is to throw over a guys head? WTF?
They openly root for the Dodgers and now this. Crazy. :-D
I want the Phils to win this even more now. Shred this lead!
Drill Manny in the face. farging prick.
He's perfect for L.A. He's a showboating bitch and he's now taken over for Jose Reyes as the biggest bitch in MLB. I'd run out of pitchers throwing at him now.
And I don't give a shtein what anyone says - Fox is openly biased about a L.A./Boston matchup.
Hell yeah they are, its obvious.
Kennedy was rooting for LA too.
I don't know why Fox just doesn't put Vin Scully in the booth.
:-D
Quote from: Rome on October 12, 2008, 09:28:35 PM
I don't know why Fox just doesn't put Vin Scully in the booth.
:-D
Vin would probably be more neutral.
hit this slanty eyed bastich in the face
I have a feeling they are going to win this game.
With Victorino being the guy to drive the dagger in.
It's too bad the Phillies don't have a pitcher that throws 100 mph yet at the same time is completely replaceable. They're not gonna gun it at Manny anyway because two things would happen: 1st - whoever did it would be kicked out of this game and then suspended for the rest of the playoffs. 2nd - Cholly loves Manny like a son and as a result won't intentionally try and injure him. Too bad because if anyone ever deserved it, that turd does.
Nice play by Mr. Hamm there.
Too bad MMA guy Seanez is not on the roster. He'd plant one in the ribs, and then kill everyone.
hello sunday nite nfl game
Switching off a Phillies NLCS game to watch Chargers - Patriots week 6 game?
Drunk? Crazy?
Oh, and this eggroll is flipping up hangers and they cant do shtein with them.
this game blows....id watch cagney and lacey re runs over this
You're nuts.
Quote from: ice grillin you on October 12, 2008, 09:40:46 PM
this game blows....id watch cagney and lacey re runs over this
Jimmy Rollins says hi
c'mon Happ knock that fruity mouth piece from this piece of shteins mouth
Time to throw some fargin strikes here. Let's goooooooo.
Nice cutoff, idiots.
damn that was an expensive ass commercial
Seriously, this game is putting me to sleep.
I want to take a giant shtein in Joe Buck's mouth. He, and everyone else working for Fox is praying to baby jesus that the dodgers get to play the Red sox in the series. farg hitting the jap or manny, gun a farging ball into the both to shut the fargcing midet up.
STILL ALIVE
werth is completely lost at the plate
what's with the douchebag behind homeplate with sunglasses on
well thats probably it
tomorrow...
I just caught the bench clearing argument, Farg manny that piece of trash, once his buddies got there he was the toughest man alive, he reminds me of Kimbo Slice just pitiful. Put a nail in the coffin tomorrow night boys.
after someone cleans out joe buck can someone drill mary hart from ET sitting in the front row? and i mean "drill" her.
it 3-0 and joe buck is like "and jimmy rollins doesnt go there"...what a moron
Way to start it off, bitches!!
Pour this shtein on, Choke.
Howard almost beat that.
Lowe's looking a bit like Moyer
Quote from: Don Ho on October 13, 2008, 08:31:29 PM
Howard almost beat that.
He would have beat it if he had hustled from the chute
Come on Vic...stick this right up their flag asses
that'll show um, shane. Hoyda.
like i said, i like fat chicks
So much for that.
But it is great to get two and rattled Lowe a little bit.
Now we need Blanton to pitch the game of his life.
start schlurping joe.
Intentionally walking Manny in the 1st? farg that drill his ass, same result.
Good call to walk him. Manny kills Blanton.
I like Blantons location tonight.
COME ON PHILS!!
Quote from: SD_Eagle on October 13, 2008, 08:42:15 PM
Intentionally walking Manny in the 1st? farg that drill his ass, same result.
but he'd want to start something especially when he's being held back by a bunch of 60+ year old assistant coaches.
Blanton's looking pretty good...so far
Bad pitch right down the plate.
farg. phils needed to shut these fargers out after going up 2-0.
who called a fastball 0-2 after his slider has been fairly nasty so far...regardless blanton has to shake that off...horrible pitch selection
We spoke too soon.
Manny could not score on that and FOX is blowing him saying he had no shot. Bullshtein. Two outs you run on contact.
Good for the Phils though.
COME ON BLANTON.
That was a terrible pitch and terrible pitch call by Ruiz. No 0-2 fastball, and if you do call it you do not throw the goddamn thing in the middle of the plate.
The pitch call is fine if Blanton throws it shoulder high not waist high. He missed his spot by a mile there. Still more comfortable with off-speed pitches in the dirt though 0-2.
the pitch call is brutal...fattys fastball sucks and his slider was on point thus far...if its nolan ryan or randy johnson you go high heat 0-2...not soft ass fatty blanton
nice work stranding a lead off double, douches
Surprised we can still hear the broadcast with the Dodgers' collective cocks buried so deep in Buck's throat.
Quote from: MDS on October 13, 2008, 08:58:03 PM
nice work stranding a lead off double, douches
Because we were all expecting so much from Ruiz and Blanton?
i wasnt looking for a gapper from ruiz but at least advance the runner
Pierre got really slow
jesus jimmy
pierre has been terrible since 03 or 04, whatever year they buttraped the phillies and won the world series.
How in the hell did the Flyers get down 3-2?
2 goals in 44 seconds
Quote from: ice grillin you on October 13, 2008, 09:00:13 PM
i wasnt looking for a gapper from ruiz but at least advance the runner
Carlos is just lucky he didn't find some way to hit into a DP. He seems capable of it even with a man on 2nd and 1 out.
I think Carlos moving the runner over was largely irrelevant with Blanton coming up. I would have been happy with a run in that situation but I wasn't expecting it.
i agree but if hes on third maybe a wild pitch or a swinging but down the line by blanton to get the runner in (or of course a sac fly)...at leats it gives you some sort of small chance
next year might as well be 2090 at this point but lou marson needs to be the opening day catcher
That looked like strike 3 on Manny
Quote from: ice grillin you on October 13, 2008, 09:11:51 PM
i agree but if hes on third maybe a wild pitch or a swinging but down the line by blanton to get the runner in (or of course a sac fly)...at leats it gives you some sort of small chance
True. I just wasn't expecting anything positive from Carlos.
i expect everyone to do the simple things in the playoffs...its literally the difference btwn winning a ws and not...even carlos ruiz has to elevate his game at this time of year so i did expect him to get the runner over...but youre probably right and im asking for/expecting too much
LETS GO JIMMY!
bring back nuttin but g thang for your on deck walk...thats whats missing
Apparently Chase and manny don't get the same pitches.
Not good
offense has shut it down so everything comes down to fatass getting manny out
my god this is not good
how sick is manny...sure would be nice to see him on the phillies right now
love the sense of urgency here by the phils offense. sure would be nice if they started to give a shtein.
so who pitches in game 6?
huh?
myers
jesus thats choke's first good ab of the playoffs
c'mon pat you angery sob!
where's the pinch bunter Toguchi?
lol Feliz
wtf feliz?
0farging Jun strikes again!!!
Thank god for that wild pitch
Did the city of Philadelphia treat McCarver like shtein or something? What is his problem? Dawg bitch slapped homeplate.
Great job by Ruiz to draw the walk.
Jenkins announced...Beimel in.
I am willing to bet that Charlie pulls Jenkins back and goes with Taguchi.
jesus what a play
farg I thought that was gonna drop
Damn!!
So close to dropping. farg that french farg Ethier.
ask and you shall receive toguchi
that little shtein almost did it.
of course if that were werth diving for the ball it would have rolled to the fence.
farg! :boom
Motherfarger
Thank you Durbin.
unfargingreal.
Now he wants to put Pierre on.
Goddamn.
thats the series....within three minutes of each other (including a commerical break) the dodgers make a great fielding play to stop a run and the phils give up a homer
dodgers in 6
i was always terrified of seeing this bullpen in the playoffs and our worse nightmares are unfolding before us.
Isn't there a football game on, igy? Or Cagney and Lacey?
Why does Juan Pierre blow against everyone else except the Phils?
Browns are winning if anyone gives a shtein.
PATHETIC!
speechless
RYAN GODDAMN HOWARD!
Jesus farging christ.
Hate.
lololololol @ choke even thinking about third
lol
is there a worse defensive player in baseball right now? wow.
these guys don't give a shtein. they really don't.
this thing is collapsing right before our eyes.
Every time they show a Dodger in the batters box Penny Marshalls in the background shoving her face with something
Great play by Utley.
For the love of MDS can they score some farging runs?!?
wow great play chase
Quote from: SD_Eagle on October 13, 2008, 10:44:14 PM
Every time they show a Dodger in the batters box Penny Marshalls in the background shoving her face with something
she is farging disgusting. i'd rather they show shots of "the Fonz".
I'd rather shots of Ryan Howard having his farging hands chopped off.
phillies offense is so fraudulant its not even funny
there is no one on this offense the Dodgers fear right now.
the bums are done.
Hong Chi Kuo.
Throwing farging gas.
This offense is downright maddening. I feel like punching something
yup...they had a couple lucky innings earlier in the series where dodger pitchers just lost it but they are so overmatched now its a joke...they need to overhaul that shtein and get a bunch of the strikeouts out of the lineup for next year and most importantly raise the intelligence factor...the numbe of bad at bats per game is unbelievable with these guys
Quote from: ice grillin you on October 13, 2008, 10:59:46 PM
yup...they had a couple lucky innings earlier in the series where dodger pitchers just lost it but they are so overmatched now its a joke...
total embarrassment right now and absolutely no signs of them turning this around.
they werent even good in the games they won...game two maybe...they had some huge two out hits which they deserve credit for but were barron other than that...and in game one they got a couple of citizen bank specials and did nothing besides that
they just arent an offense that is gonna carry you in the post season...they are way to easy to pitch to
baseball 101.
Howard is just awful right now.
For the guys watching this Phils debacle, the Browns are up 27-14 on the Giants with 14:48 left in the game.
No one they have scares you offensively besides Manny either. Furcal sucks, Loney is a fluke, Ethier is probably their second best hitter, but he is nothing special.
Too many damn walks. Our offense has got to step up though.
so dawg starts a rally?
wait, Burrell's up. forget it.
Quote from: QB Eagles on October 13, 2008, 11:08:51 PM
For the guys watching this Phils debacle, the Browns are up 27-14 on the Giants with 14:48 left in the game.
care factor: negative 47 million
Quote from: King Cole on October 13, 2008, 11:09:11 PM
No one they have scares you offensively besides Manny either. Furcal sucks, Loney is a fluke, Ethier is probably their second best hitter, but he is nothing special.
Too many damn walks. Our offense has got to step up though.
lol @ except manny....only maybe the best right handed hitter in mlb history...and even besdies him they have guys that might not scare you but they know how to conduct preofessional major league at bats and let themselves become tough outs when needed...the phillies cant do this...the only people who kinda scare you on the phils are utley and choke and all you need to do with them is bring in a good lefty and its basically over
[/quote]
lol @ except manny....only maybe the best right handed hitter in mlb history...and even besdies him they have guys that might not scare you but they know how to conduct preofessional major league at bats and let themselves become tough outs when needed...[/quote]
agreed.
Quote from: QB Eagles on October 13, 2008, 11:08:51 PM
For the guys watching this Phils debacle, the Browns are up 27-14 on the Giants with 14:48 left in the game.
Manning just threw his 3rd pick of the night at the goaline...it was returned for a TD. 33-14 Browns
Quote from: SD_Eagle on October 13, 2008, 11:16:07 PM
Quote from: QB Eagles on October 13, 2008, 11:08:51 PM
For the guys watching this Phils debacle, the Browns are up 27-14 on the Giants with 14:48 left in the game.
Manning just threw his 3rd pick of the night at the goaline...it was returned for a TD. 33-14 Browns
and the phillies still suck
perfect example of what im talking about with that burrell at bat...weak pop up on a high and outside ball...just terrible
reverse jinx FTW
MOTHERfargING VIC!!!!
YES!!!!!
holy shtein
Victorino... more HRs this series than Manny's entire playoff career.
what a beast
farg YEAH SHANE!!!
farg YEA
not for nothing, but that's why you don't bunt him back in the inning where they had that rally going, he's hot as hell...let him farging swing
So sweet.
The flagy ass LA fans boo Vic and he shoves his nuts right in their mouths.
LETS.
GO.
PHILS!
my wife just walked in and asked me what was up with the Phils and I told her no heart, can't get guys home, zesty at bats...........................and Shane farging clocks one.
Quote from: SunMo on October 13, 2008, 11:19:45 PM
not for nothing, but that's why you don't bunt him back in the inning where they had that rally going, he's hot as hell...let him farging swing
Well Bob, I wouldn't exactly call him and his .133 avg hot, but your point is taken and bunting him was dumb.
i don't care what his average his, he's come up with huge hits the whole playoffs
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on October 13, 2008, 11:19:50 PM
The flagy ass LA fans boo Vic and he shoves his nuts right in their mouths.
they weren't booing shane they were pissed the sushi bar just closed.
you would think this would be the type of pitcher stairs is made for
Quote from: SunMo on October 13, 2008, 11:23:25 PM
you would think this would be the type of pitcher stairs is made for
Broxton looks like he ate Stairs
mother farging called that shtein
WHAT A GODDAMNSHOT!!!
MATT STAIRS I LOVE YOU!
HOLY MFING shtein!!!!!!!
MATT STAIRS farg YEAH!!!!!!!
That ball just landed on my front lawn.
wow that shot of burrell jenkins and stairs was a MA special
that's the definition of raping a baseball
Devastating? farg YOU McCARVER!
Quote from: King Cole on October 13, 2008, 11:26:15 PM
That ball just landed on my front lawn.
It landed in San Francisco?
its hilarious how depressed Buck and Mccorksucker are
Quote from: Seabiscuit36 on October 13, 2008, 11:28:30 PM
its hilarious how depressed Buck and Mccorksucker are
Yeah, no shtein.
Buck lost his boner as soon as Stairs bat made contact.
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on October 13, 2008, 11:30:11 PM
Quote from: Seabiscuit36 on October 13, 2008, 11:28:30 PM
its hilarious how depressed Buck and Mccorksucker are
Yeah, no shtein.
Buck lost his boner as soon as Stairs bat made contact.
McCarver... "Just Shocking"
Quote from: Seabiscuit36 on October 13, 2008, 11:30:42 PM
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on October 13, 2008, 11:30:11 PM
Quote from: Seabiscuit36 on October 13, 2008, 11:28:30 PM
its hilarious how depressed Buck and Mccorksucker are
Yeah, no shtein.
Buck lost his boner as soon as Stairs bat made contact.
McCarver... "Just Shocking"
it wasnt?
philly teams never do this...especially the phillies
and lol at Burrell going crazy
Quote from: ice grillin you on October 13, 2008, 11:33:18 PM
Quote from: Seabiscuit36 on October 13, 2008, 11:30:42 PM
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on October 13, 2008, 11:30:11 PM
Quote from: Seabiscuit36 on October 13, 2008, 11:28:30 PM
its hilarious how depressed Buck and Mccorksucker are
Yeah, no shtein.
Buck lost his boner as soon as Stairs bat made contact.
McCarver... "Just Shocking"
it wasnt?
philly teams never do this...especially the phillies
it was, but when you and i say it, we are enthused not depressed
refs and announcers against all philly teams
The announcers part isnt true?
farging eh.
wtf has happened to Romero
wow how big was that dp
saying something nice McCarver. icehole.
no one has a nextel in the dugout? waving caps?
the phones at Dodger stadium work as well as the headsets at Giants stadium
Quote from: Seabiscuit36 on October 13, 2008, 11:36:28 PM
The announcers part isnt true?
honestly i dont hear it with buck and mccarver like you all ...but im a hater not a homer so maybe i agree with them most of the time
did the Gmen lose?
the bridge to lidge is...lidge
Quote from: ice grillin you on October 13, 2008, 11:40:34 PM
Quote from: Seabiscuit36 on October 13, 2008, 11:36:28 PM
The announcers part isnt true?
honestly i dont hear it with buck and mccarver like you all ...but im a hater not a homer so maybe i agree with them most of the time
if i could only be you
yeah, manny sucks ::)
manny is jordan right now
Worst glove ever
why would dubee come out here
that was a fluke play...i think it hit a divit
strike this bum out and go to the 9th
lol @ everyone that has to work tomorrow
Quote from: ice grillin you on October 13, 2008, 11:49:38 PM
lol @ everyone that has to work tomorrow
i'll be dead by tomorrow.
That Sharp commercial with the Albino is going to give me nightmares
why did they play that aids infested corny ass song going to commerical there
Quote from: Don Ho on October 13, 2008, 11:51:40 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on October 13, 2008, 11:49:38 PM
lol @ everyone that has to work tomorrow
i'll be dead by tomorrow.
at least you got to hang with my bro before you met Sean Taylor
Quote from: ice grillin you on October 13, 2008, 11:52:12 PM
why did they play that aids infested corny ass song going to commerical there
what's up with that? what is this 1979?
3 more outs farging christ my boner wont go away
Quote from: ice grillin you on October 13, 2008, 11:52:12 PM
why did they play that aids infested corny ass song going to commerical there
should have played this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vVPtZywtwwo
Quote from: Seabiscuit36 on October 13, 2008, 11:52:23 PM
Quote from: Don Ho on October 13, 2008, 11:51:40 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on October 13, 2008, 11:49:38 PM
lol @ everyone that has to work tomorrow
i'll be dead by tomorrow.
at least you got to hang with my bro before you met Sean Taylor
Is Ryan watching this? Did he tell you about us at The Shack yesterday? We may not be asked back.
Quote from: Don Ho on October 13, 2008, 11:54:23 PM
Quote from: Seabiscuit36 on October 13, 2008, 11:52:23 PM
Quote from: Don Ho on October 13, 2008, 11:51:40 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on October 13, 2008, 11:49:38 PM
lol @ everyone that has to work tomorrow
i'll be dead by tomorrow.
at least you got to hang with my bro before you met Sean Taylor
Is Ryan watching this? Did he tell you about us at The Shack yesterday? We may not be asked back.
he said it was good, didnt really go into details other than there were 2 other birds fans there, and 2 who didint care.
Quote from: Don Ho on October 13, 2008, 11:53:06 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on October 13, 2008, 11:52:12 PM
why did they play that aids infested corny ass song going to commerical there
what's up with that? what is this 1979?
its not even that...they played the rocky theme earlier in the series...but the dodgers just gagged at the plate that inning and they play the la song?
do it for GEICO Bruntlett.
let's go Spam Musabi
is it my imagination or are there a shtein load of empty seats at Dodger Stadium?
Quote from: Don Ho on October 14, 2008, 12:01:57 AM
is it my imagination or are there a shtein load of empty seats at Dodger Stadium?
they're all stuck in traffic
Quote from: ice grillin you on October 13, 2008, 11:49:38 PM
lol @ everyone that has to work tomorrow
I have to work, but I can wake up late and go in whenever.
Quote from: Don Ho on October 14, 2008, 12:01:57 AM
is it my imagination or are there a shtein load of empty seats at Dodger Stadium?
Nope saw that too. I mean who gives up on their team down by 2 runs except LA fans and igy?
i can snort some len bias and be ready to go
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on October 14, 2008, 12:03:18 AM
Quote from: ice grillin you on October 13, 2008, 11:49:38 PM
lol @ everyone that has to work tomorrow
I have to work, but I can wake up late and go in whenever.
i can wake up late and NOT go into work...eat me
ok, cardiac arrest - here I come.
1
2
kent looks like he eats puppy dogs with that farging scowl.
and 3!
3-1!
farg yeah
nice job bleeping nothing fox
i still cant get over how awful either is....i doubt it will but a lot should be made of what an epic failure his at bat was....literally any human being with the ability to stand and hold a baseball bat couldve stood at the plate and watched three strikes go by him and still have done a better job than he did in the 8th
the only way your team DOESNT have the best right handed hitters of all time up as the tying run with one out is if you ground into a double play
so not only do you ground into a double play you do it on the FIRST FREAKING PITCH....you don't even THINK about swinging until jc got two strikes on you...especially after hes just walked the guy in front of you
not only did that moran screw his team...he screwed everyone out of an potentially amazing at bat...not that im mad about it...but it was downright awful
Vic is the hero of this team right now, DonHo is freaking out
Quote from: ice grillin you on October 13, 2008, 10:31:41 PM
thats the series....within three minutes of each other (including a commerical break) the dodgers make a great fielding play to stop a run and the phils give up a homer
dodgers in 6
(http://i169.photobucket.com/albums/u224/SaneMadness/Failboat.jpg)
i guess we can all come back in off the ledge.
"That was Matt Stairs first career post season Home Run"
I thought that type of shtein only happened to Philly
Quote from: Don Ho on October 14, 2008, 12:11:44 AM
i guess we can all come back in off the ledge.
we back dunn dunn
Quote from: Seabiscuit36 on October 14, 2008, 12:10:47 AM
Vic is the hero of this team right now, DonHo is freaking out
he is about to displace Tom Selleck as my hero. He just passed Timmy Chang on the man love list.
hate em alllll the way
Dodger apologists on the FOX post game.
farg
You
Asswipes
Quote from: Don Ho on October 14, 2008, 12:16:42 AM
Dodger apologists on the FOX post game.
farg
You
Asswipes
Karros is an ex-Dodger but they have a point that Torre shtein the bed tonight
(http://d.yimg.com/a/p/sp/tools/med/2008/10/ipt/1223956978.jpg)
Quote from: SD_Eagle on October 14, 2008, 12:17:52 AM
Quote from: Don Ho on October 14, 2008, 12:16:42 AM
Dodger apologists on the FOX post game.
farg
You
Asswipes
Karros is an ex-Dodger but they have a point that Torre shtein the bed tonight
i know, i just need something to bitch about. FOX studios is like a nine iron from chavez ravine.
however.........not one compliment towards the phils.
The 808 Celebrates
Quote from: SD_Eagle on October 14, 2008, 12:17:52 AM
Quote from: Don Ho on October 14, 2008, 12:16:42 AM
Dodger apologists on the FOX post game.
farg
You
Asswipes
Karros is an ex-Dodger but they have a point that Torre shtein the bed tonight
the decision to take kuo out after one batter in the 8th after being so dominant and after just having him bat was pretty baffling
phillies presser on espn news right now
the HD Espnnews is money
;D
i love how the phillies front office is gettinbg credit now for bringing matt stairs in
Stairs interview with Rosenthal was cool because he may be the first ML player to admit all he does is swing for the fences.
"That's all I've done in my career is swing for the fences"
This team is going to kill me... but it's been a hell of a ride so far.
Stairs: "getting your ass hammered by the guys.....that's fun" :-D
Quote from: BigEd76 on October 14, 2008, 12:34:30 AM
Stairs: "getting your ass hammered by the guys.....that's fun" :-D
:-D :-D
lol @ havas feelin special for watchin pressers on espnews
LIVE IN PHILLY YO
Choke's single off of the Jap was huge in the 8th. If he retires Howard there, Jappy stays in.
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on October 14, 2008, 12:33:44 AM
Stairs interview with Rosenthal was cool because he may be the first ML player to admit all he does is swing for the fences.
"That's all I've done in my career is swing for the fences"
Postgame press conference: "what am I gonna do....get a single and steal 2nd?" :-D
Quote from: MDS on October 14, 2008, 12:36:00 AM
lol @ havas feelin special for watchin pressers on espnews
LIVE IN PHILLY YO
ummmm im letting people like don who dont live in philly know
lol @ you getting excited about this...ive been to more games in philly from maryland in the last year than youve been in your entire life
(http://d.yimg.com/a/p/sp/getty/a4/fullj.688f00cd6aa12035b050d508d3167714/688f00cd6aa12035b050d508d3167714-getty-83112961ps064_philadelphia_.jpg)
^^^^
MA dugout
Burrell looks like Percy from The Green Mile there.
(http://d.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/ap/20081014/capt.6dc1bbaecf154ff99fb17447112825ae.nlcs_phillies_dodgers_baseball_nlcs151.jpg)
Quote from: ice grillin you on October 14, 2008, 12:42:22 AM
Quote from: MDS on October 14, 2008, 12:36:00 AM
lol @ havas feelin special for watchin pressers on espnews
LIVE IN PHILLY YO
ummmm im letting people like don who dont live in philly know
lol @ you getting excited about this...ive been to more games in philly from maryland in the last year than youve been in your entire life
im just pointin out what livin in murland has done to you, bff
Dobbs "F*** YEAH" (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ulD03hG53A)
(watch it before YouTube pulls it off)
settle down easy
im not gonna sleep for another hour i think
Me either.
I wish I had IGY's job.
You hiring up there Havas?
Quote from: ice grillin you on October 14, 2008, 12:43:15 AM
^^^^
MA dugout
shtein, seeing Seanez in the dugout made my night!
Dodgers fans everywhere:
MATT F*CKING STAIRS!?!
:-D
i couldnt fall asleep at all last night, ended up getting to sleep around 430.... farg Yeah
Quote from: Seabiscuit36 on October 14, 2008, 06:54:14 AM
i couldnt fall asleep at all last night, ended up getting to sleep around 430.... farg Yeah
Luckily I had to take sinus meds, or I would never have gotten to sleep. 4.5 hours of sleep.
I slept just fine.
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on October 14, 2008, 01:34:57 AM
Me either.
I wish I had IGY's job.
You hiring up there Havas?
always
but it would require you leave texas
which we all know you wont because you love it so much
Quote from: rjs246 on October 14, 2008, 07:44:49 AM
I slept just fine.
Me too. I turned off the game when the Dodgers had guys on 2nd and 3rd with 0 outs, up 5-3, content that the Phillies would go up 3-2 with Hamels vs. Billingsley.
So much for that theory.
No ordinary come-from-behind win for the Phillies
By Jayson Stark
ESPN.com
(Archive)
http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/playoffs2008/columns/story?columnist=stark_jayson&id=3642376
Quote from: ice grillin you on October 14, 2008, 10:02:01 AM
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on October 14, 2008, 01:34:57 AM
Me either.
I wish I had IGY's job.
You hiring up there Havas?
always
but it would require you leave texas
which we all know you wont because you love it so much
I go where the money is.
Straight cash, homey.
Quote from: BigEd76 on October 14, 2008, 12:34:30 AM
Stairs: "getting your ass hammered by the guys.....that's fun" :-D
http://www.sportingnews.com/blog/the_sporting_blog/entry/view/13548/phillies_hero_matt_stairs_is_a_mans_man
The chuckle by the guy into the mic is funny
Wow.
QuoteBaseball Strikes Out
The National League Playoff game between the Los Angeles Dodgers and the Philadelphia Phillies struck out Monday night against all the major competition, which included Monday Night Football on ESPN. Although figures for the NFL telecast were not immediately available -- cable ratings are generally released after those for the broadcast networks -- they are almost certain to come out on top, given their recent performance. Since MNF also no doubt captured most sports viewers, the fourth game of the MLB playoff series, which was won by the Phillies, averaged just 7.28 million viewers -- leaving Fox in last place among the major networks. The No. 1 program of the night on the broadcast networks was ABC's Dancing With the Stars, which averaged 17.66 million viewers, peaking in the 8:30 p.m. half hour with 18.35 million. CBS took over the top spot at 10:00 p.m., as the season premiere of CSI: Miami drew 13 million -- but that figure was 21 percent below last year's number for the season premiere of the drama.
csi miami didnt have its season premiere, that was 4 weeks ago
but yea, this is on the pace to be the lowest rated lcs not counting the one on tbs last year.
but who cares, farg the haters who cant watch something not involving the yankees.
Quote from: MDS on October 15, 2008, 12:14:13 AM
csi miami didnt have its season premiere, that was 4 weeks ago
yeah, wtf? season premire was last month. don't mess with Horatio.
Quote from: MDS on October 15, 2008, 12:14:13 AM
but who cares, farg the haters who cant watch something not involving the red sox.
fixed
and YOU care...in fact you might care more about the phillies tv ratings than you do the phillies
game 4 sucked until the 8th inning
So riots in the streets tonight if they win?
Quote from: mussa on October 15, 2008, 11:07:56 AM
So riots in the streets tonight if they win?
Only if there isn't some Division III college game on CN8 that grabs your attention first.
Quote from: mussa on October 15, 2008, 11:07:56 AM
So riots in the streets tonight if they win?
bandwagon is full son
QuoteThank you for registering for a chance to purchase tickets for the Phillies postseason. Unfortunately your entry was not selected for our online World Series sale.
Booooo! Anyone have any luck?
I have NLCS game 6 tickets
WS game 3 tix
and i am going to get the choice to buy either Game 4 or 5 of the WS as well, but that wont be determined until friday.
The phils have pretty much given partial season (17 game plan) holders the opportunity to buy any game thus far.
i'll hold your balls the entire game for one of those game 3 tickets.
Quote from: ice grillin you on October 15, 2008, 08:49:33 AM
Quote from: MDS on October 15, 2008, 12:14:13 AM
but who cares, farg the haters who cant watch something not involving the red sox.
fixed
and YOU care...in fact you might care more about the phillies tv ratings than you do the phillies
yankees are still a 100000x bigger draw than the sawx
and sports tv ratings and irrelevant. the only thing ratings count for is sustaining a show. baseball is always gonna be on tv, no matter what. sure it might eventually go strictly to cable, like all sports except for the nfl, but it'll still be played and easily accessible. so it does in fact not matter, sir.
Quote from: mussa on October 15, 2008, 11:07:56 AM
So riots in the streets tonight if they win?
I'd stay away from Frankford Ave.
Jimmy Rollins ss
Jayson Werth rf
Chase Utley 2b
Ryan Howard 1b
Pat Burrell lf
Shane Victorino cf
Pedro Feliz 3b
Carlos Ruiz c
Cole Hamels p
Not looking for drama tonight. Please just beat the piss out of the Dodgers and get ready for the Series.
I need WS tix.
I dont care if it is there or Tampa, I need tix.
Someone hook a brutha up.
LETS GO PHILS!!
Quote from: QB Eagles on October 15, 2008, 06:32:15 PM
Jimmy Rollins ss
Jayson Werth rf
Chase Utley 2b
Ryan Howard 1b
Pat Burrell lf
Shane Victorino cf
Pedro Feliz 3b
Carlos Ruiz c
Cole Hamels p
Not looking for drama tonight. Please just beat the piss out of the Dodgers and get ready for the Series.
Amen.
Read on the Phils MB that Nutter is considering putting a Phils jersey on Billy Penn.
No. No. No, a thousand times no.
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2008/writers/joe_posnanski/10/15/stairs/index.html?eref=T1
Good read on Matt Stairs.
hentzerific you will easily be able to find ws tickets in tampon gay, just pick me up along the way.
No problem Todd-O.
Wait for me in Louisiana.
haha that place is like 1/4 full. nice job hbionic you queer.
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bring on tampa bay
JIMMY!
Way to get the half full Chavez Ravine peeps boing.
Now Werth walks.
choke is at it again...trying to pull and turning over on everything...
get your fat head out of your ass
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Looks like my house the past 48 hours.
Quote from: MDS on October 15, 2008, 08:23:18 PM
haha that place is like 1/4 full. nice job hbionic you queer.
of course joe buck to the rescue with the obligatory "stuck in traffic " line. When will the rest of the country realize that no other city has traffic except Los Angeles?
I cannot listen to these guys again. Seriously.
Joe Buck should be fired, he's farging the worst.
either the phils have a gameplan to not come out early with a lot of change ups or hamels does not have his change tonight
its been mostly fastballs and breaking balls...in fact hes already thrown more breaking balls than he sometimes does in six or seven innings
I'm going with gameplan. Maybe save it for the 2nd time around the order.
I don't recall him ever not having his change.
he does that a lot, i think he wants to get through the lineup one time on all fastballs and curves and then he can add the change up the next time through as something else to keep the hitters' timing off
jimmy with a five pitch and a four pitch count at bat first two times up.....very nice
yea where the hell has that been? its one thing for a guy to get streaky with hitting, its another when he only gives good at bats some of the times.
Quote from: SunMo on October 15, 2008, 09:00:26 PM
he does that a lot, i think he wants to get through the lineup one time on all fastballs and curves and then he can add the change up the next time through as something else to keep the hitters' timing off
ive seen him do it with primarily with his fastball mixing in a few changes ive never seen like tonight where hes already thrown five breaking balls
might time to sit werth against righties
wow that was a brutal pitch
choke yoself havas
the run this team has had with 2 out hits has been incredible
Keep it up...without those they probably get swept.
And Billingsley is done.
Dodger stadium will probably be emptying out soon.
A Feliz slam here would be orgasmic.
Let's gooooooo, Pedroooo.
There's the changeup. farg LA.
no vintage maddux would have put the pitch in the same state as the strike zone
yeah, that wasn't even close, even Fox's awful tracker couldn't pick it up
Almost 15 years ago to the day Maddux lost the game that sent the Phillies to the World Series. How long before FOX brings out some old tape?
Quote from: QB Eagles on October 15, 2008, 09:38:40 PM
Almost 15 years ago to the day Maddux lost the game that sent the Phillies to the World Series. How long before FOX brings out some old tape?
You really think they'll figure that one out?
Cole is farging dominating
a big farging fat LOL to mccarver who 50 times in the first inning said how much trouble hamels was in and how something isnt right with him
Quote from: FastFreddie on October 15, 2008, 09:41:01 PM
Quote from: QB Eagles on October 15, 2008, 09:38:40 PM
Almost 15 years ago to the day Maddux lost the game that sent the Phillies to the World Series. How long before FOX brings out some old tape?
You really think they'll figure that one out?
You're right, the production crew is probably busy furiously updating all their Dodgers v. Red Sox World Series graphics.
Quote from: ice grillin you on October 15, 2008, 09:43:43 PM
a big farging fat LOL to mccarver who 50 times in the first inning said how much trouble hamels was in and how something isnt right with him
I was just going to type that. I especially liked how they were asked if they should be more concerned over Hamels or Billingsley who gave up a HR and threw about 25 pitches and they said Cole because he was missing some high spots.
haha @ maddux with 17 gold gloves....thats just crazy
Quote from: QB Eagles on October 15, 2008, 09:38:40 PM
Almost 15 years ago to the day Maddux lost the game that sent the Phillies to the World Series. How long before FOX brings out some old tape?
There you go
Quote from: QB Eagles on October 15, 2008, 09:38:40 PM
Almost 15 years ago to the day Maddux lost the game that sent the Phillies to the World Series. How long before FOX brings out some old tape?
You win.
:-D
Thank you Furcal
McCarver has to point out what the two errors were. Pretty sure I figured those out on my own Tim, thanks.
Pedro Feleaves a shteinload of men on base.
i dislike pedro feliz
The Dodgers are awesome at fielding.
burrell is an abomination on the bases. how the farg does he not score.
Time for King to earn the money that will be saved when they don't re-sign Burrell.
After they sign Manny, that's fine.
I love Dewitt
Quote from: SD_Eagle on October 15, 2008, 10:09:30 PM
I love Dewitt
SunMo (10:08:15 PM): blake dewitt is definitely going to hit into a triple play here
havas222 (10:08:31 PM): only because theres not four outs per inning
Quote from: ice grillin you on October 15, 2008, 10:11:37 PM
Quote from: SD_Eagle on October 15, 2008, 10:09:30 PM
I love Dewitt
SunMo (10:08:15 PM): blake dewitt is definitely going to hit into a triple play here
havas222 (10:08:31 PM): only because theres not four outs per inning
Hahaha.
BTW, props to Utley on really improving in the field. That was a nice play and definitely not a gimme for a butcher 2nd baseman.
odds of mds signing onto aim and having a 3-way chat with sunmo and igy: 99.9%
Quote from: FastFreddie on October 15, 2008, 10:19:14 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on October 15, 2008, 10:11:37 PM
Quote from: SD_Eagle on October 15, 2008, 10:09:30 PM
I love Dewitt
SunMo (10:08:15 PM): blake dewitt is definitely going to hit into a triple play here
havas222 (10:08:31 PM): only because theres not four outs per inning
Hahaha.
BTW, props to Utley on really improving in the field. That was a nice play and definitely not a gimme for a butcher 2nd baseman.
Utley is actually the best fielding second baseman in the majors.
I'm shocked that Burrell kept that in his glove.
im shocked he has gum in his mouth and not a ball of chew the size of a grapefruit
LOL at the Dodger fans actually thinking they'll do something after that HR.
That's it, throw a high fastball to Manny Ramirez with a 1-2 count
how farging ludicrous is manny
that stupid farging crip behind home plate needs to sit his ass down
Manny is gonna get those. I'm not concerned as long as the Phillies are keeping the bases empty for him. Doesn't seem like a game-changer.
That looked low but who farging cares. 9 more outs.
Quote from: jihadist monk on October 15, 2008, 10:23:28 PM
Quote from: FastFreddie on October 15, 2008, 10:19:14 PM
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Quote from: SD_Eagle on October 15, 2008, 10:09:30 PM
I love Dewitt
SunMo (10:08:15 PM): blake dewitt is definitely going to hit into a triple play here
havas222 (10:08:31 PM): only because theres not four outs per inning
Hahaha.
BTW, props to Utley on really improving in the field. That was a nice play and definitely not a gimme for a butcher 2nd baseman.
Utley is actually the best fielding second baseman in the majors.
No shtein, Sherlock. I didn't say he improved his fielding for this game. He improved it from last year to this year.
Smart move by Martin to chew out the ump.
wow, the dodgers pitcher isn't getting any close calls?
weird!
Dodger fans cheering an injured Victorino. Could you just imagine if the situations were reversed.
I love the fat guy behind home plate with the BEAT LA shirt on
Quote from: SD_Eagle on October 15, 2008, 10:38:10 PM
Dodger fans cheering an injured Victorino. Could you just imagine if the situations were reversed.
What happened to him? I missed the last half inning?
Quote from: PhillyGirl on October 15, 2008, 10:42:18 PM
Quote from: SD_Eagle on October 15, 2008, 10:38:10 PM
Dodger fans cheering an injured Victorino. Could you just imagine if the situations were reversed.
What happened to him? I missed the last half inning?
Pegged in the ribs by a throw to first. He's fine.
hes a drama queen is what he is
Quote from: PhillyGirl on October 15, 2008, 10:42:18 PM
Quote from: SD_Eagle on October 15, 2008, 10:38:10 PM
Dodger fans cheering an injured Victorino. Could you just imagine if the situations were reversed.
What happened to him? I missed the last half inning?
Feliz struck out and Martin threw it to first to try to pick of Victorino. The ball went under Victorino and he rolled on it. He's fine.
Thanks...and he showed he's fine with that catch.
ha, dodger fans.
looks like he didn't have to jump for that one either blake, you little bitch.
C'mon King, just need one pitch here.
Good move by Cholly
farg YEAH COLE!
Yeah, Hamels! 6 more outs to shut this shtein down.
Hey, if the ump is going to keep giving that low strike, why not take it?
I'm naming my next kid Juqua Cole now.
yeah that was a brutal call
6 MORE
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Awful call but farg uit.
How many times did Joe Buck just say "377 homes runs...."
The fliped the stat up of Kent Career vs. Hamels : 0 for 8, Six Ks.
Not a farging peep about that shtein though.
farging great outing by Cole. Shut the door. i wish this was happening in Philly though.
Bad call, yup.
There have been plenty on both sides all series.
Nice grab Utley.
And 97 mph Madsen, holy shtein.
Madson throwing some heat
nice catch by Utley
Amazing how Utley makes that catch look routine.
Holy shtein, 4 more outs!
Omg.
Can this really happen?
Oh wait, fargface is up.
LOL at Buck's over-excitement over that hit.
Alyssa Milano = still hot
holy shtein.
holy shtein.
holy shtein.
Madson was on fire in that inning. Three more outs.
3 more outs
Who else had visions of Bill Buckner on that slow roller to Howard?
so close now :paranoid
lol, SD you're in my head
93 right up around chase's grill and he barely moves...i think he's a serial killer
Nice nose picking shot there
Quote from: SD_Eagle on October 15, 2008, 11:22:05 PM
Nice nose picking shot there
yeah, too bad they didn't show if Furcal was going to eat it or not
They haven't been able to strike out choke dawg all night. Dodgers have no chance with a stat like that.
igy and Victorino share in their love for Manny
Quote from: SunMo on October 15, 2008, 11:20:18 PM
93 right up around chase's grill and he barely moves...i think he's a serial killer
White male, late 20's-early 30's, Medium build, good looking, described as soft spoken, nice, charming, works for a lot of good causes....
He's either a serial killer or a child molester.
munson you kill a little bit of me everytime i see youre still alive
Quote from: Munson on October 15, 2008, 11:25:57 PM
Quote from: SunMo on October 15, 2008, 11:20:18 PM
93 right up around chase's grill and he barely moves...i think he's a serial killer
White male, late teens, Medium build, ugly as sin, described as saying stupid shtein on message boards
He's most likely a beer vendor
SOOOOOOOOOO CLOSE!!!
COME ON BABY!!
since wen has Madsen been able to top 95? I remember him flirting with it, but he's been throwing some heat recently
Is this shtein really happening.
Phialadelphia philles = world series? For real?
Funny thing is, the negadelphian in me is thinking, wow, how great it will be if they win on in the series. Just don't get swept. :-X
Going to keep tghat up. Worked so far
i really want somebody to get on so I can see Nomar bat against Lidge one more time
Quote from: SD_Eagle on October 15, 2008, 11:28:35 PM
Quote from: Munson on October 15, 2008, 11:25:57 PM
Quote from: SunMo on October 15, 2008, 11:20:18 PM
93 right up around chase's grill and he barely moves...i think he's a serial killer
White male, late teens, Medium build, ugly as sin, described as saying stupid shtein on message boards
He's most likely a beer vendor
I'm very near age of legally destroying my liver, and I'm pretty good looking if I do say so myself.
Todd, when I run into you at Temple can I put my foot up your ass? I would appreciate that.
of course, it would be only fitting to end the game on a DP here
wow. jow buck wants everyone to believe Lidge is the worstest closer eVar!
VICTORINOEY!
lol, how much do people in LA hate shane victorino
1 out of way
how good of an outfielder is Victorino
2 outs sd
meh....aaron rowand would have spilt blood. Shane is a Hoyda.
One more farging out. Come on Lidge.
greatest sporting moment in my adult life and I am sharing it with you douches. I need friends. Like, real ones.
oh snap...one more strike...c'mon nomahhh, bend over and take it
Quote from: Munson on October 15, 2008, 11:30:55 PM
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Quote from: Munson on October 15, 2008, 11:25:57 PM
Quote from: SunMo on October 15, 2008, 11:20:18 PM
93 right up around chase's grill and he barely moves...i think he's a serial killer
White male, late teens, Medium build, ugly as sin, described as saying stupid shtein on message boards
He's most likely a beer vendor
I'm pretty good looking if I do say so myself.
someone has to
SWEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEET
WE'RE GOING TO THE MOTHERfargING WORLD SERIES!!!!
farging cole is in shorts already
World farging Series Bitches.
Season's over. Time to move on.
Quote from: ice grillin you on October 15, 2008, 11:36:56 PM
Quote from: Munson on October 15, 2008, 11:30:55 PM
Quote from: SD_Eagle on October 15, 2008, 11:28:35 PM
Quote from: Munson on October 15, 2008, 11:25:57 PM
Quote from: SunMo on October 15, 2008, 11:20:18 PM
93 right up around chase's grill and he barely moves...i think he's a serial killer
White male, late teens, Medium build, ugly as sin, described as saying stupid shtein on message boards
He's most likely a beer vendor
I'm pretty good looking if I do say so myself.
someone has to
:-D
Sadly it's the middle school insults on here that make me laugh most.
WORLD SERIES MOTHER fargERS!!!!
Quote from: Rome on October 15, 2008, 11:39:42 PM
Season's over. Time to move on.
Nice timing, old man. Well played.
farg THE METS!! ;D
Fireworks like crazy in my neighborhood
i so wish i was into baseball. i mean im excited for them but....arggg GO PHILLIES!
i'm actually diggin the hats
Amazing moment. Gillick just gave Ed Wade major props. Twice.
CLASSY.
giles sounds farging drunk, haha
I'm digging the hats too.
way to ignore the fans surfer boy
Just you, big boi, just you.
:-D
already for sale
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i want that shirt boreanze was wearing
Quote from: ice grillin you on October 15, 2008, 11:50:45 PM
way to ignore the fans surfer boy
I'm not worried about that. I'm worried about the shots of Myers. Any chance he doesn't punch a broad tonight?
That farging hat is thirty bones. The shirt is 25.
Quote from: FastFreddie on October 15, 2008, 11:55:24 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on October 15, 2008, 11:50:45 PM
way to ignore the fans surfer boy
I'm not worried about that. I'm worried about the shots of Myers. Any chance he doesn't punch a broad tonight?
Ha I thoug ht the same. i said to my wife, myers gonna smack a ho.
Quote from: ice grillin you on October 15, 2008, 11:54:48 PM
i want that shirt boreanze was wearing
the phillies 80 shirt?
I have that shirt. :-D
I'd personally rent Myers a bitch to slap if he pitches well in the Series.
the live shots around the city are insane
Amazing.
Simply amazing.
As much as I can't believe it has been 15 years, I can believe it. All those trash ass teams in the 1990's.
King Cole is proppin' the fans on ESPN now. Just for Havas.
1915... 1950... 1980... 1983... 1993...
2008
WORLD SERIES BITCHES!!!
80 - 08
Krukker givin love on ESPN. Said the Phils will win it all (despite picking the Dodgers). His homerism was flowing on the set tonight.
Jay you're missing all the local coverage. Frankford and Cottman has mosh pits and some guy climbed a billboard. It's nuts....
oh yeah WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
and remember when Jimmy Rollins said the Phils would win 100 games this year and we laughed at him?
99 and counting....
Quote from: BigEd76 on October 16, 2008, 12:17:34 AM
Jay you're missing all the local coverage. Frankford and Cottman has mosh pits and some guy climbed a billboard. It's nuts....
oh yeah WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
and remember when Jimmy Rollins said the Phils would win 100 games this year and we laughed at him?
99 and counting....
Better be 103 then... :paranoid
2008
WORLD SERIES BITCHES!
Hell farging yeah. And LOL at the California lispy Phillies fans
Quote from: BigEd76 on October 16, 2008, 12:17:34 AM
Jay you're missing all the local coverage. Frankford and Cottman has mosh pits and some guy climbed a billboard. It's nuts....
oh yeah WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
and remember when Jimmy Rollins said the Phils would win 100 games this year and we laughed at him?
99 and counting....
I called my Mom and told her to get the DN and Inky for me tomorrow and mail 'em out.
That Frankford and Cottman intersection was where all the crazy shtein was going down when the Eagles won the NFCCG.
Hopefully CSN will have some clips available.
Just read on the Phils MB...
October 26th (MY BIRTHDAY FOR THOSE OF YOU WHO HAVE AN EXTRA WS TICKET!)
1 PM Eagles vs Falcons (The Linc-sold out)
7 PM The Who (Wahcovia Center-sold out)
8 PM The World Series (CBP-sold out)
This is some great shtein, loved the props by Gillick even though i hate Wade, he built what he fine tuned. World farging Series
Joyce something or other on Foxnews just told some fan behind her "okay you have to get off me" then gave him a shove. :-D
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on October 16, 2008, 12:33:38 AM
Just read on the Phils MB...
October 26th (MY BIRTHDAY FOR THOSE OF YOU WHO HAVE AN EXTRA WS TICKET!)
1 PM Eagles vs Falcons (The Linc-sold out)
7 PM The Who (Wahcovia Center-sold out)
8 PM The World Series (CBP-sold out)
Damn people are going to be parking 3-4 miles away.
Every time they show Frankford and Cottman its more crowded then before
Quote from: SunMo on March 30, 2008, 09:32:12 AM
it's all about the karma
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thank you
you're welcome
no doubt dummy wing will try to start some sort of World Series thread, don't fall for the trap
http://www.stubhub.com/philadelphia-phillies-playoff-tickets/?osid=top-tickets-cat-mlb-philliesws
For reals, Wing dont try it.
Gonna go crazy at the ATL game
Cheapest one on there is standing room only...for 469.
Jeez.
HOLY shtein!!! farg I missed you guys. My internet went down in the first inning so I had to bitch to my wife the entire game.
This is awesome. I am going to savor every minute of this.
Way to go Phils!!!! YEEAAAHHHHH!!!
Tampa's prices are about $335 each.
Anyone know what day the huge celebration down a certain street in the city would be? Because that may be what I come home for.
I do not know what that celebration is or where it would be
Anyone catch the story about someone putting the picture of Vic on his locker after the slam off of Sabathia where he rounded the bases with his hand up and labeled it J. REYES?
yeah, they had some good stories tonight
Charlie gets to manage the NL All-Stars in St. Louis :-D
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on October 16, 2008, 12:31:55 AM
That Frankford and Cottman intersection was where all the crazy shtein was going down when the Eagles won the NFCCG.
Hopefully CSN will have some clips available.
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Gm 1 Philadelphia Phillies @ American League Wed Oct. 22 TBD FOX
Gm 2 Philadelphia Phillies @ American League Thu Oct. 23 TBD FOX
Gm 3 American League @ Philadelphia Phillies Sat Oct. 25 TBD FOX
Gm 4 American League @ Philadelphia Phillies Sun Oct. 26 TBD FOX
Gm 5* American League @ Philadelphia Phillies Mon Oct. 27 TBD FOX
Gm 6* Philadelphia Phillies @ American League Wed Oct. 29 TBD FOX
Gm 7* Philadelphia Phillies @ American League Thu Oct. 30 TBD FOX
Holy farging shtein.
:-D
Holy shtein!
Come on, Phils...win it in 4 so I can be there for the aftermath!
Badass picture
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Amazing ;D
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ok
temple people started congregating on broad and cecil, then eventually we all started running around campus, someone knocked over the bagel hut, there had to be like 1000 students just goin nuts, then someone had the brilliant idea to run to city hall, so me and 2 buddies got in my car and drove around center city for an hour honking the horn and slapping hands with random people.
i have a midterm tomorrow that i have yet to study for, but the last 2 hours were some of the best of my life. i love you all. even munson. well actually no, hes a waste of sperm and i feel sorry for his parents.
go team!
here is the best video of the scene, so far: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lOJTKc4EK5o
I perched myself atop this big brown vent thing on the corner of broad and cecil, so when videos come out of that, chances are my dorky lanky awkward physic will be easy to spot.
^^^^
I love you to.
My buddy nick on the rugby team went up to city hall whilst celebrating.
I plan on being in the city if they're in a clinching game, because I plan on being a part of the riot that will probably literally burn the city down if they win.
Molotov cocktails for all of us!
The Phillies are going to win it all, one simple reason I won't be around to enjoy the festivities.
Quote from: Don Ho on October 16, 2008, 05:00:50 AM
Molotov cocktails for all of us!
Seriously. After seeing the reaction tonight, I have no doubt in my mind that Philadelphia will burn to the ground if they win the World Series.
Quote from: Munson on October 16, 2008, 05:23:08 AM
Quote from: Don Ho on October 16, 2008, 05:00:50 AM
Molotov cocktails for all of us!
Seriously. After seeing the reaction tonight, I have no doubt in my mind that Philadelphia will burn to the ground if they win the World Series.
I just might fly up for that.
Got the green light from the Mrs. to catch a game but man that's a long ass trip from the islands. Plus getting tickets will be absolutley impossible. Hell, I wouldn't mind just hanging out in the city just to experience all this.
I slept fine again last night.
Furcal not only had 3 errors, but he picked his nose on national TV..ha
Quote from: Don Ho on October 16, 2008, 05:33:45 AM
Got the green light from the Mrs. to catch a game
Me too. I'm wondering if tickets are still available for game 1 or game 2 in Tampa.
Congratulations fellas...
Mets fan or not, Im thrilled to see the city celebrate this - even if its the only Philly team I dont like. As much as it will pain me to see the Phils win the Series; not because its the Phils, but because its not the Birds, Flyers or Sixers I know how great it is for the fanbase and how amazing a parade down Broad would be...
Im sure y'all think this is all in sarcasm, but I'll be very quietly rooting for you guys...my Philly love is too strong to not do so..
Quote from: Munson on October 16, 2008, 05:23:08 AM
Quote from: Don Ho on October 16, 2008, 05:00:50 AM
Molotov cocktails for all of us!
Seriously. After seeing the reaction tonight, I have no doubt in my mind that Philadelphia will burn to the ground if they win the World Series.
what are you talking about...other than one bottle throwing incident was there a single negative thing you could say about the celebrations last night that would lead you to believe the city will burn down if they win the world series
Quote from: ice grillin you on October 16, 2008, 08:55:16 AM
Quote from: Munson on October 16, 2008, 05:23:08 AM
Quote from: Don Ho on October 16, 2008, 05:00:50 AM
Molotov cocktails for all of us!
Seriously. After seeing the reaction tonight, I have no doubt in my mind that Philadelphia will burn to the ground if they win the World Series.
what are you talking about...other than one bottle throwing incident was there a single negative thing you could say about the celebrations last night that would lead you to believe the city will burn down if they win the world series
That liberal media and their bias again. :P
Did Munson say "whilst" earlier?
Are you British?
or a 12 year old kid from bumfarg delaware who just last week stopped having accidents on the carpet trying to talk about shtein way above and beyond his knowledge level
Quote from: Die-Hard on October 16, 2008, 08:29:19 AM
Congratulations fellas...
Mets fan or not, Im thrilled to see the city celebrate this - even if its the only Philly team I dont like. As much as it will pain me to see the Phils win the Series; not because its the Phils, but because its not the Birds, Flyers or Sixers I know how great it is for the fanbase and how amazing a parade down Broad would be...
Im sure y'all think this is all in sarcasm, but I'll be very quietly rooting for you guys...my Philly love is too strong to not do so..
Thank you, sir. Quite classy.
Appreciate it DieHard. And i hate how Munson brings down the whole state of Delaware.
Quote"I don't know if I understand what's really taken place here," said Jamie Moyer, the only member of this team who actually attended the parade of the one World Series championship in Phillies history. "I don't know if it's really sunk in. I know we're going to the World Series, but it hasn't sunk in."
With eyes watering, Moyer began to tell the story of what it was like to be a kid in high school in October 1980, skipping school to watch the champs parade down Broad Street.
"I remember people hanging from the street lights and the trees, and toilet paper all over," Moyer said. "And everybody was your friend. A half a million people were all friends."
And then somehow, in 2006, the world spun and brought him back to his hometown, to a team that was still trying to figure out how to win these kinds of games. And a couple of weeks later, he found himself in the middle of a team meeting, telling his new friends about that parade -- and laying out a dream for all of them, to reach a parade of their own someday.
"And now we're one series away from being on the floats in that parade," Moyer said. "It's amazing."
It sure would be a nice bonus if Moyer finds his groove in the World Series.
yeah, brett myers in game 2 of the WS is more than likely to literally explode on the mound from excitement, so they'll need moyer after that.
he might run into the stands and start smacking bitches
QuotePhilly will be left in ruins
By T.J. Simers
Los Angeles Times
ANGRYVILLE, Pa. - You spend any time in this dingy city and around these folks, and pit bulls running wild come to mind.
Fine when leashed, but set them free, put a beer in their grubby paws, and it's only a matter of time before they're going to go on the attack - both the home team and its opponent feeling the bite.
It's an angry place, all right, everything old here in Philadelphia, crumbling and in ruin. Even the city's main attraction has a crack in it.
So the prevailing opinion around here is you have to be an obstinate pug to make it in Philly, the football team tough, the hockey team a bunch of bullies, and the Phillies rugged competitors like Larry Bowa.
This is supposed to make Philly an intimidating place to play, Bowa telling the media Wednesday that if the Dodgers thought Chicago was bad, "they're going to be in for a rude awakening" playing here.
"It was like a West Coast crowd in Chicago," said Bowa, the Philly in him unable to keep himself from slapping Dodgers fans, and apparently discounting the manner in which Nancy Bea Hefley can whip a Dodgers crowd into a frenzy.
But if a Philly crowd is so intimidating, as Bowa suggests, why do the Phillies lose here so often? A year ago, the Phillies became the first pro sports franchise in North American history to lose 10,000 games.
Philly has always been more bark than championship bite, so why should the Dodgers give a hoot about folks who paint their faces and then have to drive home looking like sad clowns?
The Dodgers have the better team, a destiny date in Boston, and while that might make the folks in Philly miserable, they don't know how to act any differently here.
Funny thing, too, this series will probably come back here for Games 6 and 7, and there's nothing more disappointing than getting that close to a World Series only to trudge out of the stadium wondering what went wrong.
The Phillies get the first two games here, their best pitcher in Cole Hamels starting against Derek Lowe, who is pitching for a new contract next year, as much motivation as any pro athlete can have these days. Advantage Lowe.
Brett Myers, who has more losses than wins, then takes on Chad Billingsley, and the Dodgers look pretty good to win one of the first two games. A sweep is not out of the question, especially if Matt Kemp opts to rejoin the Dodgers.
"I didn't care that I went 0 for 4 with two strikeouts when we clinched, because we won," Kemp said. "But I'd like to contribute, too. And adding an extra bat might help make a difference.
"I just need to calm down. I saw all those towels waving, and I got excited and said to myself, 'I just have to get a hit.' The same thing happened in Arizona earlier this season, and I made the adjustment."
Kemp failed to come through with the game on the line in Arizona one day, regrouped, and the next delivered the winning hit.
"It was my best at-bat of the season. I was in a zone," he said. "I need to do that again. All those towels waving got me nervous. I'm emotional, but I think that last series helped me."
OK, so if Phillies fans show up waving towels, maybe the Dodgers go only 1-1 before returning to Dodger Stadium on Sunday.
But then it really turns ugly for the Phillies, who can throw only 100-year-old softball pitcher Jamie Moyer at the Dodgers and then just another guy in Joe Blanton.
The Dodgers hitters weren't much earlier this season, but even at their worst, they feasted on pitchers like Moyer and Blanton.
Now, as long as the Dodgers don't get into a slugfest in Games 3 and 4 and lose the advantage of playing a team that can do no better than Moyer and Blanton, there's no reason why they can't be sitting in L.A. with a three-games-to-one advantage.
Three playoff wins in L.A. might be asking for too much, though, from a Dodgers team that doesn't figure to be as good as the Phillies in close games down the stretch. But leaving L.A. ahead, 3-2, makes everyone at Fox hoping for an L.A.-Boston matchup feeling pretty good.
That would take the series back to the city that just isn't quite up to the standards of New York or Boston, the Dodgers needing one more win in this angry place.
Now, as intimidating as Philly likes to think it is, could the Dodgers come up with one win in Game 6 or Game 7 to move on?
"If it comes down to that," manager Joe Torre said, "we can get one more win."
So there you go. The Phillies lose again. But then, what's new?
farg you bitch. Suck a cock. Wonder what he wrote this morning???
I've been farging wacky all morning. I am making plans now to be in Philly to watch the games in town, most likely from a bar. I feel like a kid.
I'm so tired right now I can barely function. My director walked in this morning and said, "what are you doing here?"
:-D
it was farging nuts out there tonight, its gonna be 1000x better if they win the series. you arent in philly when they clinch, youre doin yourself a massive disservice.
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Quote from: PhillyGirl on October 16, 2008, 09:41:27 AM
Quote"I don't know if I understand what's really taken place here," said Jamie Moyer, the only member of this team who actually attended the parade of the one World Series championship in Phillies history. "I don't know if it's really sunk in. I know we're going to the World Series, but it hasn't sunk in."
With eyes watering, Moyer began to tell the story of what it was like to be a kid in high school in October 1980, skipping school to watch the champs parade down Broad Street.
"I remember people hanging from the street lights and the trees, and toilet paper all over," Moyer said. "And everybody was your friend. A half a million people were all friends."
And then somehow, in 2006, the world spun and brought him back to his hometown, to a team that was still trying to figure out how to win these kinds of games. And a couple of weeks later, he found himself in the middle of a team meeting, telling his new friends about that parade -- and laying out a dream for all of them, to reach a parade of their own someday.
"And now we're one series away from being on the floats in that parade," Moyer said. "It's amazing."
haha jamie moyer was in high school in 1980.
I was a year from being borned
Who here went to the parade in '80? I was in third grade, it was a day off from school, and it was awesome. If the Phils pull this thing out, I'm going to have to come down to take my boy to that parade....if only for old times sake.
I was almost three and living in California. I remember it well.
I was 9 years old. I was trying to watch the game and my parents sent me to bed because it was past my bed time. I had a little black and white TV in my room. So I turned the volume down and watched the game with no sound. When they won I freaked out and started jumping up and down in my room screaming how they won. Busted! Step Dad came in and I was in the trouble... He wasn't a sports fan.
Either way this has been a cool ride. I'm excited all over again.
Quote from: Zanshin on October 16, 2008, 11:36:39 AM
Who here went to the parade in '80? I was in third grade, it was a day off from school, and it was awesome. If the Phils pull this thing out, I'm going to have to come down to take my boy to that parade....if only for old times sake.
I was there...i was 5 and dont remember it, but i was there.
500 bucks for a standing room only for game 3? farg.
in a recession. Otherwise they'd be higher i would think
Current AL East Teams
Boston Red Sox
New York Yankees
Baltimore Orioles
Toronto Blue Jays
Tampa Bay Rays
Teams the Phillies have lost to in the World Series
Boston Red Sox
New York Yankees
Baltimore Orioles
Toronto Blue Jays
farg the Rays. They are NOT making this farging list. And the Red Sox don't get to make it again, either. farg them all. Go Phillies.
Quote from: Zanshin on October 16, 2008, 11:36:39 AM
Who here went to the parade in '80? I was in third grade, it was a day off from school, and it was awesome. If the Phils pull this thing out, I'm going to have to come down to take my boy to that parade....if only for old times sake.
I was eighteen months old. My old man took me and my older brother down. I obviously remember none of it. My older brother tells me that moms was hating on dad for taking me outside for so long when I was so little.
Quote from: Phanatic on October 16, 2008, 11:45:07 AM
I was 9 years old. Busted! Step Dad came in and I was in the trouble... He wasn't a sports fan.
........................and that's when the sodomy began.
TJ Simers column..
QuoteSEVERAL DODGERS fans e-mailed complaining about the fan experience in the stadium for Game 4.
"I am not sure I will take my son to another Dodger game any time soon," wrote Ken Gowey. "It makes me absolutely ashamed to be a Dodger fan."
I was afraid of this, knowing some folks born in Philly have probably moved here and become Dodgers fans over the years.
The thing is, you just can't take the Angryville out of them, which obviously explains all the problems in Dodger Stadium.
I'm actually a little impressed with this guy's ability to piss people off. I'm assuming that he wrote this on purpose to piss Philly people off and he doesn't really believe it, no nice work TJ.
Quote from: PPinDC on October 16, 2008, 12:20:01 PM
Quote from: Zanshin on October 16, 2008, 11:36:39 AM
Who here went to the parade in '80? I was in third grade, it was a day off from school, and it was awesome. If the Phils pull this thing out, I'm going to have to come down to take my boy to that parade....if only for old times sake.
I was eighteen months old. My old man took me and my older brother down. I obviously remember none of it. My older brother tells me that moms was hating on dad for taking me outside for so long when I was so little.
When the phillies last won the series I was only 2. I don't remember any of it. I was so drunk.
Not that you guys really give two shteins, but a part of me wants the Phils to take care of biz for the simple fact that there'll be a ton of Eagles fans that get the monkey off their backs. If they do it, who knows? Maybe it'll open the floodgates for the Birds...
Pains me to say it, but...
Go Phils
chickie and petes was off the hook last night. i had mitch williams right next to me before the game. place went crazy when they won...beers were flying everywhere...everyone just spilled out onto the streets. it was like they won the damn world series.
The bandwagon is getting full now.
Quote from: FastFreddie on October 16, 2008, 01:00:05 PM
The bandwagon is getting full now.
That better not have been at me. We have already had the discussion how my 2 team allegance has been narrowed down to one (back in 04 or 05).
Quote from: paco on October 16, 2008, 01:06:28 PM
Quote from: FastFreddie on October 16, 2008, 01:00:05 PM
The bandwagon is getting full now.
That better not have been at me. We have already had the discussion how my 2 team allegance has been narrowed down to one (back in 04 or 05).
I was referring to both of the Mets fans that have resigned to support of the Phillies for the good of the city of Philadelphia and its sports fans in general.
Matt Stairs used to play for the A's, so you have that going for you.
Quote from: FastFreddie on October 16, 2008, 01:11:43 PM
Quote from: paco on October 16, 2008, 01:06:28 PM
Quote from: FastFreddie on October 16, 2008, 01:00:05 PM
The bandwagon is getting full now.
That better not have been at me. We have already had the discussion how my 2 team allegance has been narrowed down to one (back in 04 or 05).
I was referring to both of the Mets fans that have resigned to support of the Phillies for the good of the city of Philadelphia and its sports fans in general.
Matt Stairs used to play for the A's, so you have that going for you.
And Rich Harden contributed to the Cubs choke job allowing philly to play the LA Ramirez's
(And you know I dumped Oakland, suga)
Why can't us?
Quote from: paco on October 16, 2008, 01:06:28 PM
Quote from: FastFreddie on October 16, 2008, 01:00:05 PM
The bandwagon is getting full now.
That better not have been at me. We have already had the discussion how my 2 team allegance has been narrowed down to one (back in 04 or 05).
you and both met fans can go to effin hell
two teams...bwahahaha
matt stairs apparently likes guys hammering his ass
oh did i mention mitch "wild thing" williams was right next to me last night at chickie and petes
Quote from: ice grillin you on October 16, 2008, 02:24:19 PM
Quote from: paco on October 16, 2008, 01:06:28 PM
Quote from: FastFreddie on October 16, 2008, 01:00:05 PM
The bandwagon is getting full now.
That better not have been at me. We have already had the discussion how my 2 team allegance has been narrowed down to one (back in 04 or 05).
you and both met fans can go to effin hell
two teams...bwahahaha
I rooted for the phillies from day one.
Then as a young kid I became a big fan of the Bash bro's and Rickey, so I rooted for the As as well.
Then as a young adult, I realized that Oakland was ground zero for the steriod era, so I cant root for them anymore.
But why am I explaining myself to you? You're an eagles sesaon ticket holder who wears taterskins footsie pajamas.
translation = the phillies sucked for a while so i picked a new team, now they're good so i like them again.
I was an A's fan for a while when I was a kid, and I still follow them peripherally. But I was a fan because my grandfather was an A's fan stemming back when they were the Philadelphia A's.
Read into it however you want. I know plenty of sixers fans that rooted for the bulls because they loved Jordan.
Quote from: paco on October 16, 2008, 03:27:29 PM
Read into it however you want. I know plenty of sixers fans that rooted for the bulls because they loved Jordan.
Dogs run in packs.
paco's not a true fan, not a true fan, not a true phan! pointing laughing...pointing laughing...
Hilariously, he could have avoided this embarrassment if he realized I wasn't talking about him in the first place.
Quote from: ice grillin you on October 16, 2008, 08:55:16 AM
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Quote from: Don Ho on October 16, 2008, 05:00:50 AM
Molotov cocktails for all of us!
Seriously. After seeing the reaction tonight, I have no doubt in my mind that Philadelphia will burn to the ground if they win the World Series.
what are you talking about...other than one bottle throwing incident was there a single negative thing you could say about the celebrations last night that would lead you to believe the city will burn down if they win the world series
I didn't say anything negative.
I just know that the city is going to go insane if they win.
I put the over under on police cruisers set on fire at 15.5
And at least 6 phillies fans dead.
I'll make sure that Todd is one of those 6.
Quote from: FastFreddie on October 16, 2008, 03:41:40 PM
Hilariously, he could have avoided this embarrassment if he realized I wasn't talking about him in the first place.
Its difficult cuz your always on my nuts, stalker.
BTW, let me know if you got that thing I sent.
yeah well you aren't a professional athlete.
I can still run a 4.4 forty, though. 4.35 even.
40 feet, right?
Jim Rome just had a nice piece on the Phils on Rome is burning
Tampa or Boston? I think I'd rather see them face Boston...
I still can't believe it...
WORLD SERIES!
Cottman and Frankford was ridiculous last night. I can only imagine the insanity if this team actually pulls it off. People will probably be killed unfortunately.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pJWzn5qo6mw
Wait for it...
ive been to cottman and frankford after several big wins the best being after game seven of the milwaukee series in 01
this is awesome...
QuoteI drank, I sang, I shimmied up light-posts, had a police officer threaten me with violence, & almost got into a round of fisticuffs with a local bartender because he would not serve me another dark & stormy. What I'm basically trying to say is that I blacked out & found myself in a rather compromising situation this morning.
I guess I was smart enough to not drive home, but I stumbled back to my office & decided it was a good idea to get comfortable on our conference room table. I was found this morning by a co-worker laying flat on my back on top of a table with one arm behind my head acting as a cushiony support mechanism & the other down my jeans into the crotchal region. I was also still wearing my Pumas. It got worse when I realized I did not have a change of clothes for the workday. It got fiscally complicated when I came back to my desk, opened my Gmail account and found a StubHub confirmation for 4 world series tickets which I have no recollection of doing....fiscally complicated to the extent of $2k.... I have been ridiculed all day for my actions, but I will not apologize."
haha nice. i wish had some igy cake to do something like that.
Houston Chronicle follows suit with Pat Gillick and gives props to Wade (http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/sports/bb/6063495.html)
sd must be losing it right now...im not sure who he hates more wade or gillick...but they 1 and 2 on his most hated people ever
Quote from: phattymatty on October 16, 2008, 11:55:03 AM
500 bucks for a standing room only for game 3? farg.
it's now more than $550....ridiculous.
no chance that what they go for in the real world...ie outside of stubhub and other online spots...i suspect a single SRO will be going in the 250 range as we approach the game
if by some miracle there is a chance to clinch in game 4 or 5 i am 100% going and right now got 1000 bucks put aside for it
do you have 1000 for me?
Quote"The challenges were that there were high expectations that we could win in 2003 and 2004 and 2005," Wade said. "There was criticism because we weren't as aggressive as people thought we should have been at the trading deadlines. But the reality is that in order to do the types of things that some were clamoring for us to do we would have had to trade people like Utley and others."
No, Ed. YOU wanted to deal Ryan Howard for Kip Wells and Ted Lilly.
Pipe down, smacked ass.
Hahaha. Utley's name never once came up publicly in any sort of trade scenario. For him to even mention Chase's name just goes to show what a complete farging jackass he is.
And the more I think about it, I'm almost 100% sure that Gillick's mentioning of him was a PR move more than anything else. Because there's no farging way he deserves more than a passing mention credit-wise.
I think his name came up once.
When Oakland was looking to deal Hudson and Mulder.
Quote from: ice grillin you on October 17, 2008, 03:22:18 PM
sd must be losing it right now...im not sure who he hates more wade or gillick...but they 1 and 2 on his most hated people ever
lol
Wade/Gillick only had 11 years to get it done. I've always tried to praise Wade for the way he drafted, but his trades, signings, and extensions were among the worst in the league. I credit Gillick for Lidge, Dobbs, and Werth. I criticize him for Eaton, Barajas, Helms, Garcia. They both get partial credit over 11 years. Good for them.
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on October 17, 2008, 06:15:09 PM
I think his name came up once.
When Oakland was looking to deal Hudson and Mulder.
Talking to yourself while drunk doesn't count big fella.
http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/playoffs2008/columns/story?columnist=stark_jayson&id=3645889
Quote"I don't know if I understand what's really taken place here," said Jamie Moyer, the only member of this team who actually attended the parade of the one World Series championship in Phillies history. "I don't know if it's really sunk in. I know we're going to the World Series, but it hasn't sunk in."
With eyes watering, Moyer began to tell the story of what it was like to be a kid in high school in October 1980, skipping school to watch the champs parade down Broad Street.
"I remember people hanging from the street lights and the trees, and toilet paper all over," Moyer said. "And everybody was your friend. A half a million people were all friends."
Quote"We always had good players, but we just couldn't seem to put it together," said Rollins. "There was always a piece missing."
But as the pieces began to fit together, in the winter of 2006-07, it was Jimmy Rollins who stepped forward to change everything. He did it with one little quotation:
"We ARE the team to beat."
The reverberations that erupted that day are still rumbling all these months later. And as the Moet & Chandon dripped down his face Wednesday night, Jimmy Rollins thought back to the moment those prophetic words flowed from his vocal cords. If he hadn't said them, he honestly believes this World Series journey might never have arrived.
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Ryan Howard had three hits in the Game 5 win that secured a trip to the World Series, thus helping a new group of Phillies put its mark on the franchise.
"People thought I was crazy. Put it that way," Rollins said. "Even some of my teammates. That's the way it always is. People believe, but no one ever wants to say it. No one ever wants to make a statement and put himself out there. So I knew, when I answered the question, it was going to resonate in this clubhouse. And that's what I wanted. I really wanted to catch these guys' attention.
"This was an organization that wasn't used to winning. So saying things like that was definitely out of the ordinary. ... But no one ever really said anything to catch guys' attention. And I thought maybe we need to change that a little bit."
People thought at the time he uttered those words to throw a lightning bolt at the Mets. But what he really intended was to throw a jolt into another clubhouse -- his own. To raise the bar. To change the mindset. To transform the brain waves when it came time to play The Big Games.
"That's what we had to do -- change the way we approached the game, changed the way we thought about it," Rollins said. "We were always a team with talent. We were always a team of underdogs. We were always a team that ran the bases well. But I wanted to be known as a team that WINS well."
Quote from: ice grillin you on March 30, 2008, 09:33:24 AM
i dont believe in karma anywhere much less message board karma but if it exists this can only bring the bad kind
and if he acvtually deleted his own thread because of this hes a worse person than you
Thank you Sun Mo Karma!
YOURE A SUN MO CKARA!
Quote from: Rome on October 17, 2008, 06:01:07 PM
Hahaha. Utley's name never once came up publicly in any sort of trade scenario. For him to even mention Chase's name just goes to show what a complete farging jackass he is.
And the more I think about it, I'm almost 100% sure that Gillick's mentioning of him was a PR move more than anything else. Because there's no farging way he deserves more than a passing mention credit-wise.
Good god you are wrong about everything.
We offered a trade for Zito and Beane said ok i can has chase utley plz? and Wade turned him down.
His name was actually thrown around a couple times.
http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/playoffs2008/columns/story?columnist=stark_jayson&id=3650057&lpos=spotlight&lid=tab2pos1
QuoteWerth: Signed as a free agent for $850,000 in December 2006, after the Dodgers non-tendered him. Gillick was the GM in Baltimore when Werth was the Orioles' first-round pick in 1997, then kept his eye on him throughout Werth's frustrating battles with wrist problems in 2005 and '06. Werth has gradually worked himself into an everyday right fielder, and this year hit more homers (24) than Justin Morneau and David Ortiz, and had a higher slugging percentage (.498) than Magglio Ordonez and Carlos Pena
QuoteMoyer: Another August trade (in 2006), another trade for a player Gillick went way back with, to their days in Seattle. Moyer was 43 when the Phillies traded for him and was viewed by some folks as being close to the end of the trail.
Well, apparently not. Since then, he has exactly the same record (35-21) as Josh Beckett and Carlos Zambrano. In fact, only six pitchers in baseball have more wins than Moyer since that trade.
So if Gillick slapped his nuts on the table, you'd just go ahead and suck them? Would one hand be to tickle and the other to fight of Easy?
Bring on the Rays
Phillies in 5.
Why not make it 4?
Either way... win the thing at home. Tropicana Field is a disgrace and I've got some bad memories of a World Series dome game.
Every AL East team has beaten the Phillies in the World Series except Tampa (Boston in 1915, the Yankmes in 1950, the Orioles in 1983 & the Joe Carters in 1993).
THE MOTHERfargING STREAK STOPS NOW!
ESPN poll has 70% of the US picking Tampa. :-D
Oh noes.
Vegas has the Rays at -155 to win it.
and if Boston had won they'd be favored.
let's get it on and shut all these naysayers up!
i was reading last night the only player from either team that has a world series at bat is so taguchi
experience FTW!!
ooops
Quote from: ice grillin you on October 20, 2008, 05:42:40 AM
i think beanie is going to do to penn state for a whole game what lloyed did for one half on saturday...tressell saw the gashing and is going to three yards and a cloud of dust penn state to death...the only way to stop this is to score yourself...if penn state can get a couple early scores it might be a game...otherwise i see a boring game that ohio state wins in a final score that is closer than the play indicated...something like 17-6
Hah.
steve phillips and krukie (of course) both pick the phils
Quote from: FastFreddie on October 16, 2008, 12:12:19 PM
Current AL East Teams
Boston Red Sox
New York Yankees
Baltimore Orioles
Toronto Blue Jays
Tampa Bay Rays
Teams the Phillies have lost to in the World Series
Boston Red Sox
New York Yankees
Baltimore Orioles
Toronto Blue Jays
farg the Rays. They are NOT making this farging list. And the Red Sox don't get to make it again, either. farg them all. Go Phillies.
Quote from: Rome on October 20, 2008, 12:08:41 AM
Every AL East team has beaten the Phillies in the World Series except Tampa (Boston in 1915, the Yankmes in 1950, the Orioles in 1983 & the Joe Carters in 1993).
THE MOTHERfargING STREAK STOPS NOW!
Season's over. Time to move on.
Brain cramp!
McNabb's gonna throw the first pitch out to Rhonde Barber
Quote from: SD_Eagle on October 20, 2008, 08:04:08 AM
McNabb's gonna throw the first pitch out to Rhonde Barber
No way that joke is a SD original.
Quote from: ice grillin you on October 20, 2008, 05:54:47 AM
steve phillips and krukie (of course) both pick the phils
Phillips is picking TB.
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on October 20, 2008, 09:25:20 AM
Quote from: ice grillin you on October 20, 2008, 05:54:47 AM
steve phillips and krukie (of course) both pick the phils
Phillips is picking TB.
unless he changed in the last 12 hours thats a negative chief...watch todays sportscenter...or the recorded one from last night...he has the phils becaus eof their bullpen
:-D
Thats crazy because right after the game he was on TBs nuts.
Quote from: ice grillin you on October 20, 2008, 09:27:16 AM
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on October 20, 2008, 09:25:20 AM
Quote from: ice grillin you on October 20, 2008, 05:54:47 AM
steve phillips and krukie (of course) both pick the phils
Phillips is picking TB.
unless he changed in the last 12 hours thats a negative chief...watch todays sportscenter...or the recorded one from last night...he has the phils becaus eof their bullpen
I didn't see the one where he made a pick, but on ESPN.com he goes on and on with Kruk about how he thought the bullpen would be a big advantage for the Phillies, but because of the "emergence" of Price, it's not anymore.
probably should check out the one where he makes a pick
I hope they all pick the Rays. I wouldn't care if everyone in the country outside of the Phillies' clubhouse thought the Rays were going to win.
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Am I reading this right? Phillies fans actually picking them to win the World Series. You should all know better by now. Stay negative or you'll end up crushed.
Quote from: rjs246 on October 20, 2008, 09:50:52 AM
Am I reading this right? Phillies fans actually picking them to win the World Series. You should all know better by now. Stay negative or you'll end up crushed.
listen to this guy
and ff doesnt count as a phillies fan
Quote from: ice grillin you on October 20, 2008, 09:57:54 AM
Quote from: rjs246 on October 20, 2008, 09:50:52 AM
Am I reading this right? Phillies fans actually picking them to win the World Series. You should all know better by now. Stay negative or you'll end up crushed.
listen to this guy
and ff doesnt count as a phillies fan
Ain't nobody gonna break-a my stride, ain't nobody gonna hold me down. Oh no. I've got to keep on movin'.
the way i see it is your want them to win and would be happy if they did but you wouldnt care if they lost either which is why youre able to proclaim victory for them so confidently
For the record I'm excited that the Phillies are in. My old man is freaking out and they were the second team I ever followed obsessively (after the Nittany Lions), but even I am smart enough to know that I shouldn't get my hopes up.
Quote from: ice grillin you on October 20, 2008, 05:39:41 AM
i was reading last night the only player from either team that has a world series at bat is so taguchi
experience FTW!!
Feliz had several ABs in 2002 and Eric Hinske (TB) had an AB last year for the Red Sox. Taguchi is the only one on the
Phillies that won a ring. (Romero received a ring from last year's Red Sox but he doesn't acknowledge it.) Some of the pitchers have also been on World Series teams before...
Seanez = 1999 (Atlanta)
Eyre = 2002 (San Francisco)
Lidge = 2005 (Houston)
Durbin = 2006 (Detroit)
Percival = 2002 (Anaheim)
Wheeler = 2005 (Houston)
feliz & taguchi > hinske
I fully believe the Phillies will lose, and probably get swept, its the Philly way.
Quote
More Obnoxiousness Awaits, Says Ex-Philly, Boston Resident
By HOWARD ALTMAN | The Tampa Tribune
Published: October 20, 2008
TAMPA - Goodbye, obnoxious Red Sox fans.
Hello, obnoxious Phillies fans.
Twin brats of different dysfunctional mothers, the fanatics of Boston and Philadelphia come to the same place of extreme obnoxiousity from opposite roads.
This much I know from having lived in both places and having rooted against both home teams.
Believe me, as a New York Mets fan. I know obnoxious.
Boston Obnoxious
Boston fans have a haughty air of superiority that belies 86 years of "No, No, Nanette"-induced futility only recently replaced by the jinx-busted aura of invincibility.
Bostonians call their home The Hub. As in the Hub of the universe. As in the center of all things and the best place on Earth.
I lived there for several years in the 1980s and know this much: They really believe that Hub stuff and have since before the American Revolution.
Such long-lasting mass delusion of grandeur is hard to shake off.
Some of my best and oldest friends suffer from this syndrome. Which brings me to my good friend and former colleague Scotty Farmelant, with whom I have traded baseball guff for more than a decade.
I received this message via Facebook after the Rays blew Game 5 of the American League Championship Series.
"Sox motto: Never say die.
"Rays motto: Don't look now, but your manager threw away your momentum with the dumbest managing this side of Grady Little. Can you spell 'C-H-O-K-E'? I can: T-A-M-P-A!"
I just rolled my eyes.
Farmy is a Red Sox fan. It's in his blood.
He couldn't help himself if he wanted to.
Which, of course, he didn't.
When the Sox tied the best-of-seven series at three, I received this missive:
"Howie, Howie, do you believe? It's sad that the Rays fans are learning what it's like to be a baseball fan in such tramautic [sic] fashion. Joe Maddon says Game 5 has nothing to do with anything. Sure. And Japan had nothing to do with Pearl Harbor. Mark my words, the Rays are cooked."
Farmy, consider your words, and the Rays travel plans to Philly, marked.
Philadelphia Obnoxious
So here come the Philly fans.
Another obnoxious lot.
Whom I love with all my heart.
I spent 12 of my favorite years in the City of Brotherly Love (and Sisterly Affection) as an editor and columnist. Some of the finest people I ever met live in that town.
Even if some of them are obnoxious.
But unlike Boston fans, there is no haughty air about Philadelphia.
There is only the stench of an inferiority complex, dating back to its Revolutionary sibling rivalry with Boston and exacerbated from being in the shadow of New York to the north and Washington to the south.
And unlike Boston fans, Philadelphia fans don't think they, or their city, is the best place on Earth. Or even a very good place at all. Even though it's one of the nation's best cities.
Philly fans hate everyone and everything, but nothing as much as themselves.
They even pelted Santa with snowballs.
So fierce is the game-day passion of Philadelphia fans that a special court had to be set up just to deal with the brawling inebriates at Eagles' games.
And Flyers fans — who, like Eagles' fans, share a love/hate of the Phillies — recently booed Gov. Sarah Palin off the ice.
This is what you will see, Rays fans, as Phillies fans begin to deplane and invade the Tampa Bay area.
Boozing, brawling, self-hating maniacs, clad in red and screaming allegiance, however fleeting, to their beloved "Fluffya."
Before you look down on Phillies fans though, consider this.
It was only weeks ago that there were more empty seats than filled ones at the indoor mall otherwise known as the Trop.
The longest-suffering Rays fans have been waiting a mere decade to see their team in the World Series.
The Phillies haven't been there since 1993.
They haven't won it since 1980.
And they lost more than 10,000 games since the team was created in 1883, a record of futility even Rays fans cannot comprehend.
So good riddance Boston fans, and bring on the Phils.
Ring all the cowbells you want, Rays fans.
Crop your hair in Rayhawks and scream yourselves hoarse.
You have a long way to go before you can truly call yourself obnoxious.
Editor Howard Altman can be reached at (813) 259-7629.
oh look, another Santa reference
Quote from: BigEd76 on October 20, 2008, 10:59:37 AM
oh look, another Santa reference
What's the over/under on Santa references in the next 10 days?
I'd put it at around 750. I'm probably low.
I'm going to go find a fat guy to pelt with rita's ice.
Quote from: ice grillin you on October 20, 2008, 10:09:39 AM
the way i see it is your want them to win and would be happy if they did but you wouldnt care if they lost either which is why youre able to proclaim victory for them so confidently
you're half right
no way I care as much as you do and no way I care about losing to the Rays as much as the Sox
that said, I was a Phillies fan since I can remember, before I even understood the basic rules of football, and I really do care a lot - I am just sick of the whoa is me attitude and ready to cheer for a farging winner
not playing the sox definitely takes a mountains worth of pressure off this series....you can now just focus on the phils and them breaking the drought and not have to worry about the sawx....the medias obsession with the sawx and the worst sports fans on earth
Quote from: FastFreddie on October 20, 2008, 11:04:54 AM
Quote from: ice grillin you on October 20, 2008, 10:09:39 AM
the way i see it is your want them to win and would be happy if they did but you wouldnt care if they lost either which is why youre able to proclaim victory for them so confidently
you're half right
no way I care as much as you do and no way I care about losing to the Rays as much as the Sox
that said, I was a Phillies fan since I can remember, before I even understood the basic rules of football, and I really do care a lot - I am just sick of the whoa is me attitude and ready to cheer for a farging winner
Don't forget you can also bet against them so you can be happy the lose as well.
Quote from: Wingspan on October 20, 2008, 11:07:25 AM
Quote from: FastFreddie on October 20, 2008, 11:04:54 AM
Quote from: ice grillin you on October 20, 2008, 10:09:39 AM
the way i see it is your want them to win and would be happy if they did but you wouldnt care if they lost either which is why youre able to proclaim victory for them so confidently
you're half right
no way I care as much as you do and no way I care about losing to the Rays as much as the Sox
that said, I was a Phillies fan since I can remember, before I even understood the basic rules of football, and I really do care a lot - I am just sick of the whoa is me attitude and ready to cheer for a farging winner
Don't forget you can also bet against them so you can be happy the lose as well.
not happy
just rich
Fraud
cowardice
and ill pay 500 for one of your game five tix?
is the city of tampa actually trying to act like they are real fans or something? 3 weeks ago they were gettin 12k to their games. i swear to god if this city losses another title to that cesspool i will snap.
Quote from: ice grillin you on October 20, 2008, 11:12:15 AM
and ill pay 500 for one of your game five tix?
Nope.
Not for sale.
250 and a handjob
i've been offered more money for 1 ticket than it would have cost some of these morons to buy a partial season plan, and the whole run of the playoffs...combined.
Front running morons.
More ESPN picks:
Gammons: Phils in 7
Caple: Rays in 4
Neyer: Rays in 5
Law: Rays in 6
Kurkjian: Rays in 7
rays in 4?
wtf
Betting against Philly teams has made people rich for decades. Why would any of these clowns think that the Phillies can win this?
http://www.sportsline.com/mlb/story/11048241
Quote from: ice grillin you on October 20, 2008, 11:09:11 AM
not happy
just rich
For moneylovers, that's the same thing!
In other news, I got the email from the Rays that I did not win the lottery for games 1 and 2 but am still in the running for games 6 and 7. Exciting stuff, I know.
Quote from: FastFreddie on October 20, 2008, 11:48:59 AM
In other news, I got the email from the Rays that I did not win the lottery for games 1 and 2 but am still in the running for games 6 and 7. Exciting stuff, I know.
I wish I would have thought of this and tried to enter. I'm on my last week at work before I start a new job and would happily just take of to Tampa instead of coming in.
I didn't check, but I think you can still enter the lottery for games 6 and 7. It's not first come, first served.
Quote from: MDS on October 20, 2008, 11:13:30 AM
is the city of tampa actually trying to act like they are real fans or something? 3 weeks ago they were gettin 12k to their games. i swear to god if this city losses another title to that cesspool i will snap.
I can just hear Joe Buck now, "These fans of Tampa have waited a long time for this. Some of the best fans in the world.."
Quote from: PhillyGirl on October 20, 2008, 11:48:05 AM
http://www.sportsline.com/mlb/story/11048241
QuoteIn early September, after the Rays traveled to Chicago to capture an important series from the White Sox, they returned home to only 13,478 fans in a Tropicana Field that at the time seated 36,048.
yeah, the Rays fan base deserve it. good god.
Since the Eagles weren't playing yesterday the family and I went and picked some pumpkins. I got bored lastnight:
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yeah, I know I'm gay and this is an MA thing to do
ok i give up. MA?
I was wondering wtf that message was.
:-D
Quote from: PhillyGirl on October 20, 2008, 11:48:05 AM
http://www.sportsline.com/mlb/story/11048241
Old cliché: there's no parity in baseball, waaaaaaaaa!
New cliché: there's no New York, Boston, or Chicago team in the World Series, waaaaaaaaa!
For real. Philly is one of the biggest markets on the east coast. What the farg do they want?
they want lovable losers that the whole country can bandwagon off of or they want evil empires that they all can hate...philly is neither...the size of the local market is irrelevant when youre talking on a national scale
Wrong.
They want Manny Vs. Boston.
The end.
this year yeah...in general tho they dont want parochial teams no matter how big the city they play in is...and thats what philly sports is...no one gives a flying farg about philadelphia outside of ummm errrr philadelphia
http://www.philaphans.com/forums/showthread.php?t=79918
SunMo is being summoned.
like anyone has an account to that retard haven
no world series thread yet? bullocks!
yay biased picks
Randy Miller (the most negative prick beat writer) = Phils in 5
Ricky Bottalico = Phils in 6
Greg Luzinski = Phils in 7
Quote from: MDS on October 20, 2008, 10:38:55 PM
like anyone has an account to that retard haven
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Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on October 20, 2008, 10:12:04 PM
http://www.philaphans.com/forums/showthread.php?t=79918
SunMo is being summoned.
LMAO
http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/story/8701610/On-the-Mark:-Philly-fans-will-be-singing-the-boos
Here's a shocking story.
batteries santa claus boo cheesesteak!
ha
So who's gonna DH? Dobbs?
Either Burrell or Coste in game 1, then Dobbs in game 2. Hopefully we don't need to worry about games 6 or 7 but it would be Dobbs in those games too...
Why on Earth wouldn't Howard DH? I can play a better first base than that guy with the glove on my right hand and my left arm sawed off of my body.
Pete Grey on that ass.
then the first baseman would be Coste or Stairs and you'd be going from big pile of crap at 1B to even bigger pile of crap....
Put a trash can there. Or a coat rack with a glove.
good idea. The coat rack won't throw the ball into left field....
Quote from: rjs246 on October 21, 2008, 05:57:50 PM
Put a trash can there. Or a coat rack with a glove.
Those both have something in common with infected vagina, I think.
one of the youngest World Series in history (http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20081021&content_id=3634600&vkey=ps2008news&fext=.jsp&c_id=mlb)
17 players among both teams were born while Reagan was the president
Quote"[I watched] 'Boy Meets World' on Friday nights," Rays center fielder B.J. Upton said. "I loved Topanga."
Said third baseman Evan Longoria: "I was a big 'Saved by the Bell' guy. And 'Family Matters.'"
Quote...the Rays have 15 players who weren't even born the last time the Phillies clinched a World Series title on Oct. 21, 1980. Longoria was just 8 years old the last time the Phils were in the Series, in 1993, and Upton was 9.
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Quote from: BigEd76 on October 21, 2008, 05:48:15 PM
Either Burrell or Coste in game 1, then Dobbs in game 2. Hopefully we don't need to worry about games 6 or 7 but it would be Dobbs in those games too...
burrell is not an option hes been terrible in interleague games as DH...with coste theres the slight risk of losing your DH if Ruiz gets hurt but come on that shouldnt really be a concern...
i honestly think taguchi is the play....more speed on the basepaths and even tho he sucked this year he did pretty well as a starter...he was atrocious as a PH and to me if youre not gonna start him at DH i leave him off in place of marson cause im not sure why youd even have him on the roster if youre just going to use him as a PH
final results of the ESPN SportsNation poll:
60% overall and 47/50 states voted for the Rays
Like f'ing Wyoming knew the Rays existed before Sunday
cmon dukes its wyoming...they didnt know who the phillies were before yesterday
Quote from: BigEd76 on October 22, 2008, 10:16:27 AM
final results of the ESPN SportsNation poll:
60% overall and 47/50 states voted for the Rays
Like f'ing Wyoming knew the Rays existed before Sunday
well considering a total of 2 people voted in Wyoming the number is a little skewed.
seems early to me but according to espn....
Rollins
Victorino
Utley
Howard
Burrell
Werth
Feliz
Ruiz
Coste
I don't like Coste at DH.
What happens if Ruiz gets hurt?
Quote from: SD_Eagle on October 22, 2008, 09:42:20 AM
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now you're going to make me cry.
then you either let werth catch...or you lose your DH
Quote from: PhillyGirl on October 22, 2008, 03:39:38 PM
I don't like Coste at DH.
What happens if Ruiz gets hurt?
That's why they should have called up Marson as the emergency catcher and sent Taguchi back to Nagasaki.
Quote from: PhillyGirl on October 22, 2008, 03:39:38 PM
I don't like Coste at DH.
What happens if Ruiz gets hurt?
good question. i thought i heard if the catcher gets hurt and the backup is the DH, the DH can move to catcher but now the pitcher assumes the DH role as well. does that sound right? that came up on Big Daddy's show last night.
I don't know...I guess I'd rather see Dobbs in there...even against a rightie.
Can't a DH switch to the field if an injury occurs? I thought they could.
myers should DH tonight.
Yeah, but then you lose the DH...and the pitcher assumes that lineup spot.
the DH is farging retarded
can Sarge still hit?
They were talking about Coste being the DH on ESPN last night and said that Charlie would likely do that and if Ruiz was hurt then they would just let the pitcher hit and play it like a National League game.
And yes, the DH reeks of gay.
what i dont like about coste there is not because of an injury to ruiz...its the fact that now youre limited as far as PH for ruiz tonight...and with a southpaw on the mound the phils are gonna have all their lefties on the bench late and if ruiz comes up in a big spot youd like to hit dobbs for him if the situation arises
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^^^^^
good one.
Quote from: ice grillin you on October 22, 2008, 04:21:17 PM
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Now that is funny.
longest.
day.
ever.
are your nerves completely shot yet?
Not nerves, just anxious. The layoff was harder on us fans than the players LOL
Please win, Phillies.
The farging Backstreet Boys are singing the Anthem tonight. And Los Lonely Boys tomorrow night.
The farg?
Tampa.
Need I say more?
Quote from: ice grillin you on October 22, 2008, 04:21:17 PM
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lol
Dobbs should be the DH, I could give two shteins about right vs. Lefty. Coste gets 3 Ks tonight.
I think someone posted this (at the time a youtube link) here some time ago. The youtube link was removed, but I had downloaded it and just found it again.
Hopefully we see a repeat of this.
Ain't No Stoppin' Us Now (http://s31.photobucket.com/albums/c388/geowhizzer/?action=view¤t=Phillies1980.flv)
WORLD SERIOUSNESS NESS
Sing the goddamn anthem you flags.
wow, worst anthem ever
Carl Lewis & Roseann Barr >>>>>Backstreet Boys
And someone tell ol' boy that his hairline was back further than the OF wall....time to get rid of the spiky hair, homo.
Just like Jerry Rice and the dreads, or Jimmy Rollins a few years ago.
Anyways...
LETS GO PHILS!
I muted it the moment I saw them on screen.
To call them flaming Romes is an insult to flaming Romes everywhere.
Just when you think you're rid of that talentless hack Frank Caliendo here he is again on a commercial for DirecTv.
Die.
he's like herpes
my pops loves that guy so much
Werth hitting 2nd, Victorino 6th, Coste 8th, Ruiz 9th
I took a massive pre game shtein, god damn I've got some butterflies
UTLEY!!
farg YEAH!
CHASE!
Way to start it off.
Did you hear all the Phillies fans?
More Phils fans in Tampa than Dodgers fans in their own stadium during the NLCS.
Mow them down.
farging howard
Awesome.
bad start there
For anyone who questioned why that fat farg shouldn't be DH'ing, there you go.
nice
looked like jimmy might have done bag then ball
unconventional 1-2-3
Nice recovery.
Cole's frigging dealing.
Victorino was out
Is it just me or are the Phils getting some called balls that should be strikes
victorino continues his quest to become the dumbest player in sports
horrible piece of hitting by coste
Yeah, so dumb he just forced Kazmir into walking the worst hitter in the National League.
On the other hand...
Shallow pop and Victorino goes, farging idiot.
unbelievably awful at bat by jimmy...why the farg are you swinging 1-0 on a guy that cant sniff the plater...selfish prick...thats gonna come back to haunt them
Quote from: Rome on October 22, 2008, 09:07:59 PM
Yeah, so dumb he just forced Kazmir into walking the worst hitter in the National League.
he was out the ump just missed it...which is why i said hes on a quest to become the dumbest...had he actually been called out he might have taken the crown over...and lol at thinking he forced a walk...kazmir hasnt thrown a strike all game
Quote from: SD_Eagle on October 22, 2008, 09:09:19 PM
Shallow pop and Victorino goes, farging idiot.
gotta go there...fast as shtein runner and two outs you gotta make them make a perfect throw
That was about 25 feet away from being an infield fly.
Oh, and is Rollins ever going to start hitting the farging ball on the ground again? Stop the upper cuts, frontrunner.
Buck hasn't mentioned Manny Ramirez
Dealin'.
can someone put a bullet in mcarvers head
both of their domes are missing holes
cant keep doing this....its gonna burn them later in the game
Not taking advantage of these opportunities = recipe for disaster.
Let's not see how many players can be abandoned in scoring position tonight.
manufacturing runs...................................
Great play by Feliz
Upton = Dewitt
thats the look of a confident double play....again
Good thing they had Feliz in for that one. Escape.
That's a confident hitter right there.
has anyone heard about ben zobrist's closing speed?
I heard you were going to get a good night sleep from Joe Buck.
TAKE ADVANTAGE, IDIOTS.
here we go again
Chooch
Jimmy with the strikeout
Rollins officially has his head stuck in his ass.
3-1
Hanging curves suck.
I guess Tom Petty is the closest FOX can get to Tampa Bay bumper music.
Christie Brinkley looks hot as balls. Still.
Oh, when Chevy Chase was funny...
real good at bat by choke...even if it produces nothing got 8 pitches out of kazmir
Quote from: ice grillin you on October 22, 2008, 10:06:42 PM
real good at bat by choke...even if it produces nothing got 8 pitches out of kazmir
Putting huge mileage on his arm this inning.
Put these funholes out of their misery, please.
Hey these guys seem to be very good at hitting until people get on base! I'm observant!
Go to sleep.
I knew that was going to happen. Goddamn it.
this inning by hamels is the pitchers equivalent to an at bat by rollins...just stupidity everywhere you look
id rather lose to the red sox than these undeserving frontrunners
Nice job by Choje.
ummm not even close
not to mention red sox fans never would have let choke catch that ball....lol @ the rays fans completely unaware of what to do
there shouldnt even be rays fans let alone a team in tampa bay
boston shouldnt be a city
Quote from: MDS on October 22, 2008, 10:33:48 PM
there shouldnt even be rays fans let alone a team in tampa bay
Take away their hockey team before you take away their baseball team.
Are they seriously interviewing the farging President of farging Taco Bell?
hockey shouldnt even be played in philly. its too warm. rule should be avg winter temp below freezing or no hockey. but thats another conversation.
but yea boston does suck but they have legit, albeit trashy and spoiled, fans. tampa ought to be wiped off the face of the earth.
Another inning comes and goes with the leadoff guy getting farging stranded.
I hate when they play like this.
Quote from: rjs246 on October 22, 2008, 10:35:56 PM
Are they seriously interviewing the farging President of farging Taco Bell?
free taco on the 28th...pass.
I figured it being Florida and all there would be some hot ass in the crowd, so far it's 40-50 year old hags.
Quote from: Rome on October 22, 2008, 10:39:10 PM
Another inning comes and goes with the leadoff guy getting farging stranded.
I hate when they play like this.
yep...theres just no chance it isnt gonna come back and bite them in the nuts
and there goes choje again
Motherfarging butcher.
Jesus...farg YOU HOWARD.
Now like a hundred countries watch him blow in the field.
People in Venezuela must be like "wtf?"
King balked.
Thanks for the break, blue.
The Rays can mess up getting the leadoff guy on also.
ball bounces 2 feet in front of the plate and choje swings
choke is just brutal. farging fatass.
their offense is pathetic and is what is going to cost them this series
nice to see the layoff helped J Roll, Choke and Coste.
My god! Patsy walked!
Score some runs, clowns.
wow the phils are getting all the calls
lol igy simma down now. i recall you saying the phillies had the series lost down 5-3 in game 4 to la.
i underestimated the dodgers suckiness...al east champs arent gonna let that happen
Why do you have to do that? Can't you for once stop being a farging icehole and just cheer for the team?
Christ.
Welcome back, June/July Phillies. Not glad to see you and your stranding runners on base asses back.
Bitches.
these guys are terrible tonight.
9 farging runners stranded.
choke is just disgusting right now. :boom
Quote from: Rome on October 22, 2008, 11:05:58 PM
Why do you have to do that? Can't you for once stop being a farging icehole and just cheer for the team?
Christ.
im pretty sure its a defense mechanism. like oh well i knew they were gonna lose it, farging Hoydas hey look they won wooo go sporting group!1!
Eyre and Durbin up.
It's time for me to start drinking.
Quote from: MDS on October 22, 2008, 11:10:11 PM
Quote from: Rome on October 22, 2008, 11:05:58 PM
Why do you have to do that? Can't you for once stop being a farging icehole and just cheer for the team?
Christ.
im pretty sure its a defense mechanism. like oh well i knew they were gonna lose it, farging Hoydas hey look they won wooo go sporting group!
Hey! That's exactly how my wife describes me. "Bitch, bitch, bitch, cry, cry, bitch, bitch, cry. Oh shtein did they win?"
Quote from: MDS on October 22, 2008, 11:10:11 PM
Quote from: Rome on October 22, 2008, 11:05:58 PM
Why do you have to do that? Can't you for once stop being a farging icehole and just cheer for the team?
Christ.
im pretty sure its a defense mechanism. like oh well i knew they were gonna lose it, farging Hoydas hey look they won wooo go sporting group!
if it was that i would have said it before the series started
but its clear that if this offense doesnt dramatically turn it around and i dont see them doing it then they will lose this series...after hamels its a coin flip every night for the phils pitchers and i see tampas offense winning that toss just about everytime
rays in six
ok, i'm taking bets! how many men do we leaveon this inning?
your parade invitation has been lost in the mail
use that broken bat and stab Coste in the neck!
I'll admit it. I don't want to believe they can wit it. I'm just so happy they madei to the series. I am worried that my hopes are going to get up and then get crused, then I am left with the avrage Birds.
On another note, I am pleasantly lit. A coworker bought me a 12 pack of Sam adams Octoberfest as a congradulations thing, he's a suprisingly a Sawx fan. It's excellent swill.
Damm, maybe I should chug a 12 pack like PP! Diet Lipton Citrus Green Tea aint cuttin it.
Wost Manneans!
this Iwamura puts everything into each at bat. guy is wired.
Madson is on roids. Holy christ. Where was he all season??
Quote from: Don Ho on October 22, 2008, 11:26:23 PM
this Iwamura puts everything into each at bat. guy is wired.
its the chinamen work ethic
Quote from: PPinDC on October 22, 2008, 11:27:17 PM
Quote from: Don Ho on October 22, 2008, 11:26:23 PM
this Iwamura puts everything into each at bat. guy is wired.
its the chinamen work ethic
i'd like 8 of those chinamen right about now.
whatever you are into, bro.
Joe Buck, please remove your lips from Upton's cock right now.
Madson is mighty masterful... almost mythological.
Quote from: PPinDC on October 22, 2008, 11:30:58 PM
whatever you are into, bro.
easy now, Commander Tsulu was recently married to his gay lover and I'm having a rough time.
mcarver is so bad. Buck I can deal with because i dont ecpect him to know what he is talking about anyway.
The thing with madsen when Ruiz came out, and he's saying he'll throw the fastball...."Nope!"
What the farg is Rollins swinging at?
Rollins is farging terrible
Christ, Jimmy, if you're gonna get an out at least make them work a little for it.
Quote from: PPinDC on October 22, 2008, 11:35:41 PM
mcarver is so bad. Buck I can deal with because i dont ecpect him to know what he is talking about anyway.
The thing with madsen when Ruiz came out, and he's saying he'll throw the fastball...."Nope!"
yeah, what's up with McCarver? For being an ex-phil he sure hates on us.
Looks like the stage is gonna be set for a classic choke dawg choke, 9th inning World Series variety.
it would be so great if I had any inclination to believe that howard could make them pay for walkin utley
Hahaha. The Aussie is going to have a coronary out there.
Howard Ks here, no doubt.
Quote from: SD_Eagle on October 22, 2008, 11:40:54 PM
Howard Ks here, no doubt.
Mortal lock. over/under the amount of pitches howards see: 5
christ, my mother could pitch underhand and blindfolded and strike Howard out right now.
How classic is this! Walking Utley to get to Howard!
Quote from: SD_Eagle on October 22, 2008, 11:40:54 PM
Howard Ks here, no doubt.
Probably but don't underestimate the possibility of DP. I hope Lidge has his stuff.
If by "K" you mean hit a three run bomb, then yes.
i dont even care if choke strikes out here...i dont ever expect him to get a hit against a situational lefty...its the horrid at bats against kazmir when he was all over the planet all night that piss me off
sit down fat ass. it was right down the farging pipe.
shocking. When he farging argues a bonafide strike, after K'ing, I want to farging beat him to death with his bat. Sit down fat man.
That piece of shtein was throwing batting practice fastballs and Howard stares at them.
Start Dobbs at first for all I care.
lol @ all the idiots picking the phils because the rays bullpen supposedly sucks...even tho it was amazing all year
Didn't even get a quality swing in that AB. Textbook choke.
Howards average post season AB:
Check swing - challenge - Strike 1
way outside ball 1
right down the middle of the plate - Strike 2
little off the plate but no less a Strike - Strike 3
Look at Ump like an idiot
rinse repeat
86mph down the pipe and dumbfarg looks at it.
Sure glad Bruntlett is up. Whew!
Um, what?
i am dying to hear how loud it is in there from someone who went tonight. doesn't seem to loud.
funholelett.
farg!! Bearded shteinhead.
omgbradlidge
13 LOB = awesome.
my farts smell
Here we go
In Lidge's hands now. Honestly: the pitching, hitting, baserunning, and fielding to win a convincing World Series game have basically been there for the Phillies, with the exception of a few key players having brutal individual performances and just killing it for everyone else.
im going to have a farging heart attack. He's gonna walk at least one.
I might vomit a little.
Quote from: PPinDC on October 22, 2008, 11:54:13 PM
im going to have a farging heart attack. He's gonna walk at least one.
i am still on life support after the NL East clincing game against the Nats.
1
HOLY farg!
"give this sold out crowd a jolt."? oh, that's because this is like only their fourth sellout this season.
Quote from: Don Ho on October 22, 2008, 11:50:58 PM
i am dying to hear how loud it is in there from someone who went tonight. doesn't seem to loud.
its embarrassing
and there are a significant amount of empty seats in the upper deck
first fastball just now...
YESSSSSSSSSSS
Yes! Road win in the World Series for the Phils!
1 down 3 to go
Sweet Jesus Christ Almighty.
farg THE RAYS AND THEIR GAY FAN GIMMICKS
THREE MORE.
nice win, Lidge was nasty.
why does this not feel like a win?
this game had no world series feel to it what so ever. maybe when they move to CBP. this orange juice factory sucks.
Quote from: Seabiscuit36 on October 23, 2008, 12:04:25 AM
nice win, Lidge was nasty.
He owed the Phils one, he's the reason this game is being played in Florida. ;)
Quote from: Don Ho on October 23, 2008, 12:06:07 AM
why does this not feel like a win?
this game had no world series feel to it what so ever. maybe when they move to CBP. this orange juice factory sucks.
worst fans ever, when Crawford hit his homerun, you would have though he singled. farg Tampa
Quote from: Seabiscuit36 on October 23, 2008, 12:07:54 AM
Quote from: Don Ho on October 23, 2008, 12:06:07 AM
why does this not feel like a win?
this game had no world series feel to it what so ever. maybe when they move to CBP. this orange juice factory sucks.
worst fans ever, when Crawford hit his homerun, you would have though he singled. farg Tampa
half the crowd looked like the senior citizen home bus made a wrong stop.
Fox's post game hacks just had the temerity to say that missed chances cost the Rays. What the farg? The Phillies should have absolutely destroyed this bullshtein team tonight if not for missed opportunities.
Quote from: Don Ho on October 23, 2008, 12:09:21 AM
Quote from: Seabiscuit36 on October 23, 2008, 12:07:54 AM
Quote from: Don Ho on October 23, 2008, 12:06:07 AM
why does this not feel like a win?
this game had no world series feel to it what so ever. maybe when they move to CBP. this orange juice factory sucks.
worst fans ever, when Crawford hit his homerun, you would have though he singled. farg Tampa
half the crowd looked like the senior citizen home bus made a wrong stop.
Everyone who wasn't old and fat was either a shirtless five year-old boy or a 40 year-old woman who looks 55 due to too much time out in the sun.
milt thompson needs to take Jelly Roll and Yak Dawg and keel haul their asses in Tampa Bay tonight.
Disgraceful.
Great game by the Phils but too many guys left on base. This should have been a beat down. Hamels was awesome.
Gotta be the first time in baseball history that the MVPs of the two previous years are the two least valuable players in a World Series win. Although designated out Coste was nearly as pathetic.
From the AP recap:
QuoteCowbells were sounding and fans were petting the cownose Rays in a tank in right-center during Tropicana Field's first World Series game.
There was a minor league feel, with the public-address announcer hawking season tickets for 2009, an on-field fan contest in left field during the middle of the fifth inning and a trivia contest to give away a video game after the sixth.
Even if they end up winning the Series that franchise is a disgrace and Tampa sports fans are horrible. All they care about is the cheap spectacle, whether it's blue mohawks, a gay pirate ship blasting its cannons, or their fake sports heroes Hulk Hogan and Macho Man Randy Savage. They just don't quite get it.
These fake-ass fans are still less annoying than arrogant Sox fans though.
Quote from: Don Ho on October 23, 2008, 12:09:21 AM
Quote from: Seabiscuit36 on October 23, 2008, 12:07:54 AM
Quote from: Don Ho on October 23, 2008, 12:06:07 AM
why does this not feel like a win?
this game had no world series feel to it what so ever. maybe when they move to CBP. this orange juice factory sucks.
worst fans ever, when Crawford hit his homerun, you would have though he singled. farg Tampa
half the crowd looked like the senior citizen home bus made a wrong stop.
I wonder if they have Depends dispensers in all restrooms...
Quote from: Don Ho on October 23, 2008, 12:06:07 AM
why does this not feel like a win?
this game had no world series feel to it what so ever. maybe when they move to CBP. this orange juice factory sucks.
....and we get a series there in the middle of the week in late June '09. I'm guessing there's gonna be less cowbell....
oh yeah.....3 MORE WINS HOLY SH**
and Jimmy Rollins was right. Tonight was the 100th win of the year.... ;D
It's worse at Lightning games. Trust me, if there's 5,000 legitimate sports fans in Tampa, I'd be shocked. The rest are either bandwagoning Romes or Gators fans biding their time until Saturday afternoons.
Brett Myers is gonna drop the hammer tomorrow night; I think the hook will be on...maybe 8-10K's.
paging igy bet, paging igy bet...
From Philly.com...
QuotePosted by Mike H. 12:36 AM, 10/23/2008
I wish I had a printing press in my cellar so I could help pay his salary for 16 more years. Very, very, very good game by King Cole tonight.
holy ish, a lot of jealous brew crew fans tonight in milwaukee! up here for a convention, and they were pissed in the bar tonight. ;D
your all a bunch of losers...just kill yourselves tomorrow
tomorrow we will be up 2-0 so :flipoff
i'm still pissed. phils should have beat these guys down. they had Kazmir, Kazam whatever his name is on the ropes. Coste needs to take a seat. I have 1000% more faith in Taguchi up there.
it was frustrating, but they pulled it out 3-2, fargin a we took it to them and beat the min their house. Farg them. it's only game 1. Many more runs tongiht
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vpTRD0jEheA (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vpTRD0jEheA)
That game seemed to go by so fast, I missed the first three innings so that may have something to do with it. I could barely watch the last two innings, I had to try to be quiet because my roommate was sleeping. 3 more to go FTW!
Quote from: phattymatty on October 23, 2008, 02:28:34 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vpTRD0jEheA (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vpTRD0jEheA)
Whatever that is, i'll be going to HR i think now since it popped up sexy videos do not meet bank policy
0-for-13 with RISP. That had never been done in a world series game before. 0-for-13.
And they still managed to win the game. Thank goodness for Cole Hamels.
Hopefully we get Dominant Wifebeater and not Headcase Wifebeater tonight.
Quote from: Don Ho on October 23, 2008, 02:01:51 AM
i'm still pissed. phils should have beat these guys down. they had Kazmir, Kazam whatever his name is on the ropes. Coste needs to take a seat. I have 1000% more faith in Taguchi up there.
What about Dobbs or Stairs? Screw the whole lefty righty thing. And Blanton should be getting the third start, not Moyer.
Well, as frustrating and angry as I was during the game at the guys LOB, I figure I'll chalk it up to a week off and being rusty.
Bottom line is...they won ON THE ROAD, GAME 1 of the World farging Series.
End of story.
No reason to bitch about it. I don't expect the offense to take a shtein like that at home in this series.
I so want them to win it all at home. This city deserves it. Winning it all in Tampa would be so wrong (so right, but so wrong in that sense).
Please God, let it be dominant Wifebeater tonight. PLEASE.
I think Moyer is going to destroy this team. VERY young fastball hitters up and down that lineup. He can confuse the shtein out of them. They've never faced him.
I feel the same way about Moyer, I think he will do to the Rays what he usually does to the Marlins.
Quote from: SunMo on October 23, 2008, 09:01:56 AM
I feel the same way about Moyer, I think he will do to the Rays what he usually does to the Marlins.
i said the same this morning. He frustrates younger players, that said, the philly fan in me think he gets blown up again
Quote from: Seabiscuit36 on October 23, 2008, 09:05:38 AM
Quote from: SunMo on October 23, 2008, 09:01:56 AM
I feel the same way about Moyer, I think he will do to the Rays what he usually does to the Marlins.
i said the same this morning. He frustrates younger players, that said, the philly fan in me think he gets blown up again
The Philly fan in me said last night that Cole would let up 3 runs in the bottom of the first, after Chase hit the HR. :-D :paranoid
I am going to POST like PhillyGirl for a few DAYS and hopefully I will FINALLY get my POINTS across.
Quote from: rjs246 on October 23, 2008, 09:09:37 AM
I am going to POST like PhillyGirl for a few DAYS and hopefully I will FINALLY get my POINTS across.
:-D :paranoid
Quote from: SunMo on October 23, 2008, 09:01:56 AM
I feel the same way about Moyer, I think he will do to the Rays what he usually does to the Marlins.
I don't know, I mean, I guess he's due, right? I thought the same thing when he was going up against the Brewers, yet he sucked ass. If I had to bet I'd say he gets destroyed again.
And I could care less how they win games, bottom line is it's the World farging Series and they're 3 wins away. How they get those 3 wins doesn't matter.
SD, didn't the Brewers face him this season though? And I still say the Rays are younger and more apt to chase his stuff (after watching them last night and in the playoffs) than the Brewers were.
Probably, that gets thrown out the window when he's hanging pitches over the plate. His location has been shtein and if the Umps aren't giving him the close stuff (like they weren't lastnight) it's going to be another short outing.
i have to assume hamels is going to win his other game, so that means between myers' 2 games and moyer and blanton they need to win 2 of those games...they have to be able to do that.
Its all about Myers' fastball tonight. If he's locating it, and able to set up the splitter, cutter and most of all the hammer....he'll be on.
Buster Olney was talking about the Rays swinging outta their shoes this morning. They. according to him and scouts, are trying to crush all the time now. Moyer has that ability, not just with his slop, but with how he makes batters impatient in the box (standing on the mound, stepping off, throwing over 56 times, etc)
Can someone let Rollins, Howard and Burrell know the Series started please?
http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/playoffs2008/columns/story?columnist=stark_jayson&id=3659005
QuoteHamels proving October is his kind of month
By Jayson Stark
ESPN.com
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Updated: October 23, 2008, 3:45 AM ET
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ST. PETERSBURG, Fla. -- The names on the list are the names of men who have carved their legend in the month of October.
Josh Beckett. Randy Johnson. Curt Schilling.
Jack Morris. John Smoltz. Orel Hershiser.
We know their names because October was their kind of month. And they belong on that list because they once did something very few pitchers have ever done.
They all won four starts in the same postseason.
And now they have company.
The latest name to join them on that list is a 24-year-old lefthander named Cole Hamels. And with every time the Phillies hand him the baseball, it is becoming apparent that he is one of this sport's most special talents.
He won Game 1 of the 2008 World Series on Wednesday night, beating the Tampa Bay Rays 3-2 in the Land of the Cowbells. It wouldn't be accurate to say he won that game for his team all by himself. But it WOULD be accurate to say the Phillies won this game, in large part, because Cole Hamels just wasn't going to let them lose it.
"You just got the feeling he was not going to let anything happen to upset that game," teammate Scott Eyre said after Hamels had finished spinning off seven innings of five-hit, two-run domination. "He was going to keep making pitches. And he was going to keep trying to get outs until they told him, 'You're done.' "
He was done, as it turned out, after 102 pitches. He was done because his manager, Charlie Manuel, thought it was time to unleash his unhittable late-inning bullpen tag team, Ryan Madson and Brad Lidge, for a devastating, six-up, six-down, three-strikeout grand finale in the eighth and ninth.
But this was Cole Hamels' show. And it's now, officially, Cole Hamels' month. He is having himself an October for the history books. So let's take a look at just some of the entries he has already made in those history books:
• He is now 4-0, with a 1.55 ERA, this October, with 27 strikeouts in 29 innings. That makes him only the 10th starting pitcher in history to win four games in one postseason, joining the six names above, plus Dave Stewart, David Wells and Burt Hooton.
• If Hamels gets another start in Game 5, he will have a chance to tie the all-time record for most wins in a single postseason, held by Randy Johnson (2001) and Francisco Rodriguez (2002). But all of K-Rod's wins that year, and one of Johnson's, came in relief. So Hamels is now in position to become the first starting pitcher EVER to win five times in one postseason.
• Hamels also is now only the fourth pitcher ever to win Game 1 of an LDS, LCS and World Series in a single postseason. The other three are Smoltz in 1996, Wells in 1998 and Beckett last year. But Hamels is the only member of that group who won three Game 1s AND a series clincher in one postseason (since he also won Game 5 of the NLCS).
• Finally, Hamels' Game 1 win made him the third-youngest left-handed starter in history to win a World Series opener. Only Babe Ruth and Ray Sadecki (both 23) were younger. And Hamels is the first left-hander to win a Game 1 on the road in 22 years -- since Boston's Bruce Hurst beat the Mets in Shea Stadium in 1986.
So this fellow is making it more clear, with every journey to the mound this month, that he is baseball's most irreplaceable animal -- a genuine, no-question-about-it No. 1 starter. And as his friend, teammate and mentor, Jamie Moyer, put it, "It's great to be on a team that can rely on somebody like that."
Cole Hamels allowed just two runs over seven innings in Game 1 of the World Series against the Rays to pick up his fourth win of this postseason.
Yeah, those aces can come in handy, all right. Especially on nights like this. Because if you were going to draw up a formula for How to Win Game 1 of a World Series, "you wouldn't do it THAT way," laughed Jimmy Rollins, after one of his team's strangest nights all season.
Yessir, if you're trying to win Game 1 of the World Series, we really don't advise you to do stuff like becoming the first team in history to go 0-for-13 with runners in scoring position in a World Series game.
And we really don't advise you to try to beat one of the hottest teams on Earth on a night when your leadoff man (Rollins) and cleanup hitter (Howard) go a combined 0-for-8, with five strikeouts.
And we really, really don't advise you to try winning a game in which you leave nine men on base, get another runner thrown out at the plate and foul up two routine ground balls to the first baseman, all in the space of one crazy evening.
"But hey," Rollins chuckled, "it worked."
Yeah, it worked, all right. But the way it worked was so inexplicable that even the men in the middle of it got a little mixed up.
At one point after this game, for instance, Shane Victorino saw an ESPN graphic on a clubhouse TV that said his team had just gone 0-for-13 with runners in scoring position.
"Wait, we weren't 0-for-13 with runners in scoring position," he yelped.
Uh, yes you were, his favorite gang of media inquisitors informed him.
"Oh, OK, we were," he said. "But I scored."
Right, he was informed. But he didn't score on a hit. He scored on a fourth-inning ground ball.
"OK, we were 0-fer, but we still scored a damn run," Victorino retorted. "So take that 0-fer and shove it up ..." (ehhh, no need to finish THIS sentence) ... "So we still manufactured a run. We don't have to get a hit to score a run. That's what I meant."
Sure. That's exactly what he meant. Just as soon as he finally figured out what he meant after he meant it. Or something like that.
But whatever he meant, "I'm sure tomorrow will be different," Rollins said. "I'm sure we can't go 0-for-13 with runners in scoring position AGAIN and win another game 3-2. That's hard to do."
No kidding. But they did it. Somehow.
They did it because their irrepressible second baseman, Chase Utley, pounded a two-run homer off Rays starter Scott Kazmir in the first inning of the first World Series game of his life.
Kim Klement/US Presswire
Chase Utley gave Hamels a cushion with a two-run shot off Scott Kazmir in the first inning of Game 1.
And they did it because, in Victorino's words, they "manufactured" an insurance run in the fourth on two singles and two ground ball outs.
But mostly, they did it because the man on the mound, Cole Hamels, was fabulous.
He is arguably the best starting pitcher on either team in this World Series. But more than that, he's the most important starting pitcher on either team. And his teammates seem well aware of exactly how important he really is.
"Our first thought was, we've got Cole Hamels on the mound," Lidge said afterward. "So we need to win."
And if that's the role his team wants to put him in, "he likes being in that position," said his pitching coach, Rich Dubee. "I think Cole's mentality is knowing that he's got stardom written all over him, and he thrives on that position."
So, Dubee was asked, does that mean Hamels goes into games like this knowing he has to win?
"No," Dubee deadpanned. "He thinks he's going to go out and throw a no-hitter."
And on a night like this, facing hitters who have barely seen him before, his teammates joke about just how possible that might be. When Cole Hamels unfurls the most untouchable changeup in baseball (or, at least, the most untouchable changeup thrown by anyone not named Johan Santana), it barely seems like a fair fight.
Asked if he ever feels sorry for hitters who have never seen that changeup before, Eyre replied: "Sometimes, because you know it's coming. When they get two strikes, we're all out there in the bullpen going, 'Here it comes.' And they swing right through it."
Oh, the Rays didn't swing through all of them, not on this night. Akinori Iwamura went 3-for-3 against Hamels, including a two-out, fifth-inning RBI double that narrowed the score to 3-2.
And Carl Crawford, a man who hadn't homered since June 27, hammered a solo homer off Hamels in the fourth.
And Hamels needed two B.J. Upton double-play balls -- including a bases-loaded rocket to third base in the third inning -- to wriggle out of two early jams.
But even though he's only 24, Hamels always seems as if he's in total control -- and not just of these career-defining baseball games, but of himself.
"He was walking around this afternoon like it was just another game," Moyer said. "I went out in the dugout early [Wednesday] before the game, and I sensed it even there. We had a conversation, and it was not like, ho-hum, who cares. It was, 'I'm ready to pitch. I've done all my prep work. And now I'm ready to go.' And he does it not with arrogance, not with cockiness. It's just confidence. It's just, 'I expect to go out and do it.' "
Hamels has talked often of wanting to be the guy on the mound in these games, in these moments. But even he says it hasn't hit him yet that this is the World Series.
"I think I'll still kind of play it slow and easy until the World Series is over," he said, "until I really get excited about it."
But if he wants to wait another week to figure out where he is and what he's done, that's cool with his teammates -- because they understand exactly what they're watching. They're watching greatness unfold before their eyes. And even better, they're watching it in the in the month that matters more than all the other months.
I'm hoping there's a rain delay that will give Hamels an extra day of rest so he can maybe pitch 3 times in this series.
With Myers tonight it's going to be all about weathering the early storm. He needs to control himself cause the Rays are gonna come out swinging.
Quote from: PhillyGirl on October 23, 2008, 08:56:43 AM
Please God, let it be dominant Wifebeater tonight. PLEASE.
Exactly. It's either one or the other with this guy.
That said, I will also contend that Rollins, Howard, and/or Burrell will have to figure out how to hit for the Phils to win tonight.
I will even say Rollins, more than the other 2, has GOT to get his shtein together. He frustrated me more than anyone last night.
If saturday is rained out, anyone who spent $$ to get a game 4 ticket to double up the eagles game is gonna be shtein outta luck.
Quote from: PhillyGirl on October 23, 2008, 11:04:11 AM
I will even say Rollins, more than the other 2, has GOT to get his shtein together. He frustrated me more than anyone last night.
How do you strike out on three pitches to a guy who is literally only throwing fastballs?
The thing that pissed me off about Rollins is on two consecutive at-bats he let two pass that were literally right down the pipe and then swung at two pitches that were at his eye level.
That's little league bullshtein, IMO, and it comes from trying to do too much.
He needs to start hitting through the ball and stop trying to lift everything. If he does that then the dinger will come.
Howard, on the other hand, is just hopeless right now. He's seen 10 straight games of nothing but off-speed garbage, so when he does see a fastball, he can't get around on it quick enough. He picked the worst possible time to go into one of his "spells" but if he was tearing the cover off the ball, someone else would be sucking wind anyway.
That's just how it goes in Philly.
I didn't read all of the game posts, but that stadium is farging hideous. There is not one. single. attractive. feature to it. From the clearly (to a point of ridiculousness) bandwagon fans, to the cowbells, to a dome in farging FLORIDA, to the turf, to the music....all of it.
MLB should be embarrassed with that place. Its about as far from a baseball park as you can possibly get.
As much crap as CBP takes for its dimensions, its a beautiful park and I am damn proud that this city build one like that.
I think the ray tank is kinda cool though
and did you see the plans for the new Rays stadium? Instead of a retractable roof, it would have a giant sail that gets pulled over the field... :-D
(http://www.baynews9.com/images/news/2007/11/28/lgRays5.jpg)
Let's hope the Phillies can win in 4 or 5 and avoid that hellhole after tonight.
Quote from: PhillyGirl on October 23, 2008, 12:57:46 PM
As much crap as CBP takes for its dimensions, its a beautiful park and I am damn proud that this city build one like that.
Tropicana's field dimensions are shorter than CBPs:
Tropican field
(http://www.baseball-almanac.com/stadium/tropicana_field_dimensions.jpg)
CBP
(http://www.andrewclem.com/Baseball/Diag/CitizensBankPark.gif)
Fascinating.
Quote from: PhillyGirl on October 23, 2008, 12:57:46 PM
I didn't read all of the game posts, but that stadium is farging hideous. There is not one. single. attractive. feature to it. From the clearly (to a point of ridiculousness) bandwagon fans, to the cowbells, to a dome in farging FLORIDA, to the turf, to the music....all of it.
MLB should be embarrassed with that place. Its about as far from a baseball park as you can possibly get.
As much crap as CBP takes for its dimensions, its a beautiful park and I am damn proud that this city build one like that.
we talked about that last night, how this game just didn't have a WS atmosphere to it. i felt like i was watching an inter league regular season game on mlb.com. i can't wait until they get to CBP just so we can feel the experience.
Quote from: FastFreddie on October 23, 2008, 01:41:01 PM
Let's hope the Phillies can win in 4 or 5 and avoid that hellhole after tonight.
and so havas can see the drought end in person
As someone who lives in the godforsaken state and has been to the stadium several times, I can honestly say that the structure itself isn't bad. The fans suck and all and aestetically it's like a huge warehouse inside, but trust me, when it's 90 degrees out at 7:30 and the humidity is 100%, a dome is an absolute necessity.
Everything else that's been said about Tampa, the fans, the cowbells and the general third rate minor league feel to the place is accurate, but the stadium itself really isn't that bad.
Quote from: Rome on October 23, 2008, 04:00:40 PM
As someone who lives in the godforsaken state and has been to the stadium several times, I can honestly say that the structure itself isn't bad. The fans suck and all and aestetically it's like a huge warehouse inside, but trust me, when it's 90 degrees out at 7:30 and the humidity is 100%, a dome is an absolute necessity.
Everything else that's been said about Tampa, the fans, the cowbells and the general third rate minor league feel to the place is accurate, but the stadium itself really isn't that bad.
It looks cheap
it looks like costco
i love costco.
the closest around here is Mt. Laurel
baseball is played outside. if old people and frontrunners in florida dont like it, they shouldnt have a team. or a state.
The thing about Rollins, and with Howard too, are they are guessing too much and that gets the out of whack.
Rollins looks like he's trying to take pitches to work counts. Then he'll fall behind and start swinging to either foul balls off (try) and end up swinging at a bad pitch.
Howard has to get it through his brain that he will not see fastballs for the most part. Slider, change, slider, curve...he's so far out on his front foot and leaning towards LF its crazy. SO when he does get a goddamn BP "heater" he cannot pull the trigger.
A little help here, fellas.
And the Rays are still being hailed as winners. "Big Game James" Shields (what'd he do to earn that nickname?) was being fellated all over the radio and TV today.
Shields is Rowand's cuz....for whoever cares about pointless info.
http://www2.tbo.com/content/2008/oct/22/s6-baseball-primer/
Are you farging shteintin me?!? I mean...come on.
QuoteA Tribune staff report
Published: October 22, 2008
So you're new to baseball and looking to follow the World Series?
Here's an explanation of some terms you might hear.
BATTING AVERAGE: The standard numerical measure of a player's ability at the plate. It is calculated by added three zeros to the number of hits and dividing by the total number of at-bats. An season average of .300 is considered excellent, while .400 has only been achieved by eight batters since 1900 (the last time in 1941 by Ted Williams, who batted .406).
CAUGHT LOOKING: A batter who takes a third strike and is called out, often because he was expecting a different pitch than the one thrown.
CLEANUP: The fourth batter in the lineup, usually one with power, because he is expected to clean the bases of any runners with a home run or extra-base hit.
CLOSER: A relief pitcher specializing in recording the final out (or outs) of a game to preserve a victory.
CUTOFF MAN: A fielder who intercepts a throw from the outfield, usually to prevent a runner from taking an extra base or to hasten the throw to a base.
DOUBLE PLAY: A routine but difficult play in which the defense gets two outs with one pitch.
EARNED RUN AVERAGE (ERA): The statistic representing the number of runs a pitcher allows per nine innings (27 outs). It is determined by dividing earned runs by innings pitched, then multiplying that number by nine. Example: A pitcher has worked 47 innings during the season and has allowed 14 earned runs. 14 divided by 47 times 9 equals 2.68 ERA.
HIT AND RUN: The base runner tries to move from one base to the next. It is the batter's obligation to protect him by putting the ball in play.
HOT CORNER: Third base.
K: The symbol in a scorecard for a swinging strikeout. A backward K is used to indicate a called third strike.
LONG RELIEVER: A pitcher expected to work three or more innings in a game.
ON DECK: The batter due up next. He stands or kneels in the on-deck circle between the dugout and home plate.
PITCHOUT: A ball intentionally thrown high and wide when a steal is expected, to prevent the batter from hitting the ball and to place the catcher in a better throwing position.
RALLY CAP: A cap worn inside-out or backward by superstitious players hoping to start or extend a rally.
SEVENTH-INNING STRETCH: The time when the home-team fans rise and stretch before their team comes to bat in the bottom of the seventh inning. Legend has it that it began in 1910 when President William Howard Taft stood the stretch and the crowd, believing he was leaving, stood as well out of respect for the office.
STOLEN BASE: A runner who successfully advances a base without the ball being put in play.
SUICIDE SQUEEZE: A runner on third breaks for the plate as the pitcher delivers. The batter bunts the ball. If executed correctly, there is virtually no way the runner can be tagged at the plate.
UP THE MIDDLE: A ball hit back past the pitcher, over second base and into center field.
UTILITY PLAYER: One who can play several positions and usually doesn't start.
BANDWAGONER: You, if you need this article to get through the game.
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Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on October 23, 2008, 07:23:29 PM
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Are you farging shteintin me?!? I mean...come on.
The Rays probably hand that out as "fans" come in to the stadium.
damn Mexicans singing the National Anthem, stealing American jobs
would someone care to explain to me how james shields is a big game pitcher...so much so that he has a friggin nickname for it
Its a stupid nickname, but given to him in the minors. EIther way, lets not use it up in the bigs considering he's pitched in about 2 big games.
zesty 1st inning. Rollins popping up...
Werth's error cost them two runs. Pena's ball is a DP with the guys on 1st and 2nd.
Come on, iceholes...wake up.
i really really hate shane victorino...hes got the iq of a sperm whale
gotta love this offense
Greg Dobbs and Shane Victorino...thank you!
Goddamn, this is nauseating to watch.
0-3 w/ RISP so far; 0-16 overall.
Way to go, bitches.
This freaking team is going to kill me. :boom
What is this bullshtein?
Quote from: ice grillin you on October 23, 2008, 08:57:20 PM
i really really hate shane victorino...hes got the iq of a sperm whale
as much as i love him you are correct. that was just farging stupid.
WTF?
This is going to hurt.
absolute bullshtein! even Buck and McCarver agreed - of course Joe farg now brings up the "controversial" balk by hamels last night.
Nice throw and play at the plate by Ruiz, of course the inning should have already been over.
And it costs a run.
Terrible, terrible call by Danley.
Ruiz is a midget.
COME ON OFFENSE! You lazy, no good motherfargers get some hits and score some goddamn runs.
not that i'm panicing but we're in deep shtein tonight. we just might break that 13 RISP left on base record.
can they just farging score some runs without waiting for someone to homer?
don't worry Carlos is leading off tthe third!
Quote from: Don Ho on October 23, 2008, 09:14:42 PM
not that i'm panicing but we're in deep shtein tonight. we just might break that 13 RISP left on base record.
can they just farging score some runs without waiting for someone to homer?
don't worry Carlos is leading off tthe third!
they will not win a game this series unless hamels is pitching...not only is tampas pitching better but their offense is far superior
that home plate ump is the ugliest mofo i've ever seen. farging neanderthal.
atta boy chooch, might as well get comfy at second cause I doubt you're going anywhere
lets count the ways they cant strand the jockey
Quote from: SD_Eagle on October 23, 2008, 09:16:22 PM
atta boy chooch, might as well get comfy at second cause I doubt you're going anywhere
well now he's at third so he can finish chapter 2 of the book he's reading out there.
werthless piece of shtein.
unreal
no way we win tonight. sorry. this is just awful.
Jesus motherfarging goddamn christ.
I swear this team is going to be the end of me.
Philadelphia Phillies: Stranding Leadoff doubles since the Bowa days
Can one of you farging shteinbags get a hit with runners on?
Somehow I doubt Joe Buck's "honest" review of 24: Redemption will be very critical.
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on October 23, 2008, 09:22:06 PM
Jesus motherfarging goddamn christ.
I swear this team is going to be the end of me.
Philadelphia Phillies: Stranding Leadoff doubles since the Bowa Ed Delahanty days
Can one of you farging shteinbags get a hit with runners on?
excellent inning by the wifebeater....now farging give him something to work with
Uh oh, another RISP.
figures, dawg gets hot and the rest of the putzs suck massive shtein.
i'm ready for Taguchi to DH already.
Dobbs = deer in the headlights
he needs to come out of the game....right farging now
Quote from: SD_Eagle on October 23, 2008, 09:34:16 PM
Dobbs = deer in the headlights
he looks freaked out up there.
phils just suck. we don't score here - good night.
farging bums
good night.
game over.
aloha
:puke :'(
I mean, what the farg Dobbs?
Matt Stairs please.
Seriously...
Dobbs has not even come close to touching a ball.
farg! farg! farg!
So Hamels goes Saturday correct?
I sure hope these morons are taking note on how to "manufacture" runs from the Rays.
An AL team doing back to back squeezes.
Why oh motherfarging WHY didn't Dubee call for a pitchout there?!?
I want to murder something. Maybe my TV.
jockey be ballin tonight
Jayson Werth. farg you.
bums
now it's just farging funny.
where was werth going even if the ball drops
the iq of this team is beyond comprehension...led by king dummy chuckles manuel
Yeah, Charlie's fault.
Negative, chief.
Did the phils take stupid pills with lunch today? good lord.
I hope someone has Dobbs by the neck in the dugout and is telling him to snap out of it.
Ryan Howard...unanchor you motherfarging ass off the bag and catch that ball...its not a force out you stupid bitch.
farg. Motherfarging frustrating.
maybe I'm just high but I have a feeling Howards going yard here
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on October 23, 2008, 10:00:49 PM
Yeah, Charlie's fault.
who said it was his fault?
doesnt make him an less of a moron tho...his band of idiots just follow along
1st & 3rd Feliz up...mega de ja vu
RBI time.....or not...farging Phillies
Quote from: ice grillin you on October 23, 2008, 10:09:58 PM
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on October 23, 2008, 10:00:49 PM
Yeah, Charlie's fault.
who said it was his fault?
doesnt make him an less of a moron tho...his band of idiots just follow along
What did he do so moronic tonight?
nothing
Shields was completely ripe for the picking tonight and they didn't come through. Very frustrating.
At least Ruiz showed up tonight.
Ruiz is THE offense for the Phils tonight. :-D
RISP = inning over.
McCarver says "perfect pitch" as the replay shows it missing the plate.
werth needs to wipe that stupid scowl off his face. just hit the damm ball.
let the joe buck man love for price begin.
can we please do something here.
Quote from: Don Ho on October 23, 2008, 10:50:29 PM
let the joe buck man love for price begin.
It's sickening
abortions ahoy
how in the farg was that strike three?
You think to yourself no way they strand 11 again tonight
oh but let's not worry as they're coming home where all is well :paranoid
Quote from: Don Ho on October 23, 2008, 10:57:52 PM
oh but let's not worry as they're coming home where all is well :paranoid
With an ace like Moyer coming up, no way the Phils drop Game 3.
Quote from: QB Eagles on October 23, 2008, 10:58:42 PM
Quote from: Don Ho on October 23, 2008, 10:57:52 PM
oh but let's not worry as they're coming home where all is well :paranoid
With an ace like Moyer coming up, no way the Phils drop Game 3.
suddenly i think i have plans this weekend.
Myers pitched better than the four runs would indicate. Too bad he got some bad breaks on defense and no offensive support at all.
Bruntlett lol
of all the jinjoints in the all the places...
Quote from: QB Eagles on October 23, 2008, 11:10:20 PM
Myers pitched better than the four runs would indicate. Too bad he got some bad breaks on defense and no offensive support at all.
could not agree with you more. he pitched a good game but a farg up by werth and a zesty call by that ugly mutha ump cost him a few runs. offense, ah no coment.
Is it possible to nuke Tampa fans?
Singing "goodbye"?
Please.
WTG Eric Beardlett.
I feel a 3R HR coming in the top of the 9th.
Come to daddy, baby.
nuke that kid that just showed the "shaka" sign. little prick.
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on October 23, 2008, 11:19:00 PM
I feel a 3R HR coming in the top of the 9th.
Come to daddy, baby.
it never ends, does it?
Ruiz is the farging man tonight.
Ump = AIDS
JRoll = AIDS
can charlie play this game under protest?
rollins needs to walk to first and sell that better. farging idiot.
Howard didn't save the game, what a shocker.
farg A DUCK!
farging bums
Quote from: MDS on October 23, 2008, 11:23:14 PM
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on October 23, 2008, 11:19:00 PM
I feel a 3R HR coming in the top of the 9th.
Come to daddy, baby.
it never ends, does it?
The opportunity was there. Go kill yourself, Toddy.
That umpire was horrific.
farg farg farg farg farg farg farg farg
Because that Werth hit was scored an error, the Phils still haven't driven anyone home with a hit with RISP.
It seems like they haven't driven anyone home.
I wonder if they will be able to get into their cars in the morning and drive home.
farging shteinbags.
that umpire was absolutely horrific.
i turned off the tv as i can't handle the FOX post game crew.
i need a beer.
terrible umping but the phils had about 10000 chances and couldnt do shtein. farg them they deserved to lose.
Quote from: MDS on October 23, 2008, 11:45:04 PM
terrible umping but the phils had about 10000 chances and couldnt do shtein. farg them they deserved to lose.
True.
Apparently in his interview after the game, Price said that he didn't hit Rollins, he only hit Rollins' jersey. Someone send Price an MLB rulebook.
CBP better be rocking off it's foundation this weekend!
Jayson Werth = dumbshtein of the game award winner. That error allowing the extra base and getting picked off first was mother farging dumb.
Greg Dobbs = terribly clueless
Jimmy Rollins wearing another 0-5 collar
Pat Burrell...any time you'd like to hit a ball, let us know.
I am SO sick and tired of hearing this Big Game Shields and the comments from the teat sucking media afterwards about living up to the nickname.
WAY too many opportunities missed.
Seriously they look like the Phillies of June/July.
you could magnify about 100 different situations and at bats out of this game where the phillies epically failed.
one thing they might not be able to overcome is tampa having 2-3 solid lhp out of the pen. choke and utley cant really hit lhp, especially lefty specialists late in games. dobbs cant touch them. this has been the case all year. theyve won despite it. it could hurt them, it could not. we'll see. but its something thats out there.
but on the bright side, they come home 1-1 and tampa did not beat them tonight. the phillies beat themselves with pos play in the field and god awful at bats with risp. youve got to like their chances to at least head back to tampa up 3-2. we all knew this wasnt gonna be a cake walk.
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His eyes were closed when Rollins got hit. No bullshtein. Terrible
Quote from: MDS on October 24, 2008, 12:08:35 AM
you could magnify about 100 different situations and at bats out of this game where the phillies epically failed.
one thing they might not be able to overcome is tampa having 2-3 solid lhp out of the pen. choke and utley cant really hit lhp, especially lefty specialists late in games. dobbs cant touch them. this has been the case all year. theyve won despite it. it could hurt them, it could not. we'll see. but its something thats out there.
but on the bright side, they come home 1-1 and tampa did not beat them tonight. the phillies beat themselves with pos play in the field and god awful at bats with risp. youve got to like their chances to at least head back to tampa up 3-2. we all knew this wasnt gonna be a cake walk.
Maybe your best post ever. Take a bow, Todd Orodenker.
i love how everyone here is able to spell my last name right. growing up everyone mangled it. but you, with your 3rd grade education and incest-laden genes, can do it correctly. nice work, friend.
It's not exactly rocket science.
Considering mine was butchered so much (Heinz...Hertz...no, I don't make ketchup or rent cars! I even wore #57 in middle school football as a joke).
I know how to spell. I know its a rarity for people who live in Texas, Tampa fans, and the general population.
Quote from: MDS on October 24, 2008, 12:08:35 AM
but on the bright side, they come home 1-1 and tampa did not beat them tonight. the phillies beat themselves with pos play in the field and god awful at bats with risp. youve got to like their chances to at least head back to tampa up 3-2. we all knew this wasnt gonna be a cake walk.
you're right. we all got excited after winning game one and all this talk of sweep was ridiculous. This thing is going to go down to the wire. i just hope i'm still alive to watch it.
Moyer's gotta be huge on Saturday.
Wouldn't hurt if the offense finally got it together, either.
sat will be rained out which is perfect because now it wont conflict with penn state
the question is who scores more pts in their next game ohio state or the rays
and whats the over under on combined walks and homers for moyer
i say 4 walks and three homers for a o/u of 7
bets?
Quote from: ice grillin you on October 23, 2008, 09:15:44 PM
Quote from: Don Ho on October 23, 2008, 09:14:42 PM
not that i'm panicing but we're in deep shtein tonight. we just might break that 13 RISP left on base record.
can they just farging score some runs without waiting for someone to homer?
don't worry Carlos is leading off tthe third!
they will not win a game this series unless hamels is pitching...not only is tampas pitching better but their offense is far superior
stop. You're more of a drama queen than me. I thought Myers pitched well last night after the first inning when he settled down. Without Werth's error the GOD awful call behind the plate, this game was up for grabs. ON THE ROAD.
I'm pissed at the lack of scoring but its not going to continue at home.
Just finished reading the last 2 pages of this thread...I never, EVER want to hear that I'm a drama queen again. Not with IGY, Phreak and DonHo's posts. Holy shtein. They split the first 2 games on the farging road and are coming home for 3 straight. Get a grip. Did you think they were going to sweep them? ::)
no i thought theyd lose in 5 or 6...which is what i still think
myers pitched well i agree but guess what shields pitched better
and tampas offense got the job done and the phillies shtein the bed
the american league has dominated the national league for a while now and thats the case here...the phillies are a solid team but tampa bay is simply better and were tested by far better teams all year...theres no shame in the phillies game but jesus look at their interleague record this year and you can see why they are the inferior team
i just wish they werent from tampa bay...thats the unfair part...if the phils were to lose to the yankees or tigers or white sox id be fine but my god if tampa wins every team in their city will have won a title in the last five years....and that makes me wanna cry
The Phillies are just as good as Tampa, if not better. Stop IGY.
NL/AL has nothing to do with this. I know the AL/NL records, but at the same time, it all goes out the window when you get to the opposing team ballpark in the world series.
Phillies have not played up to their potential the last 2 games and I fully expect that to be different when they get into the confines of CBP. I expect to see the same team that played the past 2 series there.
Stop being a drama queen.
Phillies in 6.
Quote from: PhillyGirl on October 24, 2008, 08:52:17 AMI know the AL/NL records, but at the same time, it all goes out the window when you get to the opposing team ballpark in the world series.
the phillies were 2-7 at home vs the AL this year
just got this email from my boy...
I can get 3 tickets to game 5 for $100 for all 3, you interested in going, SRO
I'm interested. I can't go, of course, but I'm interested.
i wanna know how he got these...it sounds to good to be true...stubhub has their cheapest tickets going for 700-800 each
He probably stole them from some rich GOP white devil.
your waitin for the devil to come from the ground...clown....take a look around...just look at the cross that the priest is holdin...a beast in sheeps clothin
but im rollin....with that knowledge of self....cause heaven aint about wealth...so mister preacher if i cant pay my tide....do I have to wait outside?
white man please take another look....cause we cant be reading out the same book...cause yous a crook...and im a brotha....king james had sex with his mother...is that your edition?....is that your religion?...black man you gotta make a decision
cause god is comin on day number seven...and they wont call me a niggggga
when i get to heaven
Quote from: ice grillin you on October 24, 2008, 08:59:46 AM
Quote from: PhillyGirl on October 24, 2008, 08:52:17 AMI know the AL/NL records, but at the same time, it all goes out the window when you get to the opposing team ballpark in the world series.
the phillies were 2-7 at home vs the AL this year
They didn't play Tampa. What is your point?
The winner of the next game 100% wins the series. The Phillies need to get Garza early, and Moyer needs to not suck.
Amazing Insight
I have a gift.
I thought the 100% was a nice touch. While it's a complete lie and hyperbole at its best, it sounds good.
The truth is that the Phillies are 100% going to win the Series regardless. farg the Rays. They shouldn't even have a team.
The Phillies split in Tampa and got decent pitching to boot. If someone asked me three days ago if I'd be happy with those results, I'd have said damn straight.
The hitting will come around and I think Moyer's going to pitch the game of his life tomorrow night.
I said it before and I'll say it again... Phils in Six.
If I get game six tickets, you're there, right?
Quote from: PhillyGirl on October 24, 2008, 10:36:25 AM
Quote from: ice grillin you on October 24, 2008, 08:59:46 AM
Quote from: PhillyGirl on October 24, 2008, 08:52:17 AMI know the AL/NL records, but at the same time, it all goes out the window when you get to the opposing team ballpark in the world series.
the phillies were 2-7 at home vs the AL this year
They didn't play Tampa. What is your point?
crazy correlation i know but tampa won the division and league all those teams were in
People here massively overreact to 1 game(win or lose), it's quite comical.
im actually pretty level headed...series has gone just as i thought...hamels should win and the rays should win the rest of the games...if either of those things go off course then the series could change dramatically....well see if it does
other than hamels and lidge i see no area where the phillies are better than tampa...and lidge is neutralized in games hamels doesnt pitch
I wasn't talking about or to you. You should be happy you got your free lunch from someone today.
so if/when the phis win can we hire a security detail to hold igy down and prevent him from coming to the parade? guy has been beyond negative all season, im pretty sure he proclaimed the phillies done at least 15 different times.
that was last year...this year i thought they were done maybe once...much less than most people on the thread
this isnt even about them being done...it about them not being the better team and having to have some really fortunate stuff happen for them to win...can they win sure...hell the cards won a couple years ago
will they win...highly doubtful
its got to be a 50/50 shot at this point.
you have to figure they will win 2/3 at home. youre talking about splitting 3 and 4 with hamels winning 5. then its a crapshoot if they can come out of tampa and win 6 or 7.
but this aint over, hater.
actually you gotta figure they lose two of three at home with winning 2/3 being a possibility...tampas better...the phillies are horrible against al teams...and they are at a big disadvantage in two of the three home pitching matchups
other than blind faith what would make you "figure" theyre gonna win 2/3 at home
because the next 2 guys are both rhps. and neither are that good.
logic and odds say the phils will get some runs in 1 of those 2 games, if not both.
last night was a rhp who was struggling and look what happened...the next two righties have been dominant and very good
faith says the phillies are gonna score runs not logic..and even if you believe they will you have to also have faith that moyer and blanton will both contain tb
I'm preparing myself for a typical Philly loss. I don't want it to happen but watching base runners get stranded over and over again is such a Philly sports way to lose. Something inexplicably frustrating. You know it's coming but you watch anyway.
Hopefully I'm wrong.
I'm feeling overly gloomy today.
they were a hit here or a hit there for winning the game, dooks. they were dominated.
sometimes you get bad luck, like dobbs happening to not be able to pick up the ball against this guy and being up with a runner at 3rd and less than two outs. or feliz hitting a ball hard and right at some one.
at some point, it comes down to results. you gotta get the job done. but they put guys on base and eventually logic says those runs are gonna come home. thats all.
You know whats awesome.....that so called "underdogs" (which is extremely debatable) never ever ever win in sports historyr
"highly doubtful", "how do you figure", "not a better team", "you need to be SO fortunate"...blah blah blah
The Phillies have just as much an opportunity to win this than friggin Tampa, and the final scores dictate that, The fact that someone (not naming names) is dwelling on JUST and only JUST the negative perspective is horrendous..trying to proclaim a "see..I told you so."
if you know who you are...raise your hand
90% of people who know baseball picked the rays...does that mean the phillies cant win absolutely not...and saying the phillies can or even will win isnt stupid but saying the two teams have an equal chance is...unless as i suspect youre saying that because the series is tied 1-1 and each team needs the same amount of wins...and in that case you would be correct
oh and its not debatable about whether the phillies are underdogs or not
no need to stand up...just raise your hand
thanks
Quote from: ice grillin you on October 24, 2008, 09:22:36 AM
just got this email from my boy...
I can get 3 tickets to game 5 for $100 for all 3, you interested in going, SRO
ha...my boy left a zero off his email...three tickets for 1000 bucks...i dont know whos the bigger idiot him for doing that or me for believing it
Quote from: PhillyGirl on October 24, 2008, 08:39:23 AM
Just finished reading the last 2 pages of this thread...I never, EVER want to hear that I'm a drama queen again. Not with IGY, Phreak and DonHo's posts. Holy shtein. They split the first 2 games on the farging road and are coming home for 3 straight. Get a grip. Did you think they were going to sweep them? ::)
now you know why my wife makes me go upstairs and watch the game alone. she walks in and asks me "Is it necessary to swear? Does that help things?" Sure does. My neighbor's think I'm beating my wife and kid during Phils/Birds/Sixers games. Ask Sea Biscuits brother as he's seen me at the sports bar in true form usually being asked to pipe it down or leave.
when you watch the game alone in solitary you tend to go off. have to admit the "negativity" was at an all time high here yesterday with IGY, Phreak and yours truly just fueling the fire.
Quote from: ice grillin you on October 24, 2008, 12:50:51 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on October 24, 2008, 09:22:36 AM
just got this email from my boy...
I can get 3 tickets to game 5 for $100 for all 3, you interested in going, SRO
ha...my boy left a zero off his email...three tickets for 1000 bucks...i dont know whos the bigger idiot him for doing that or me for believing it
If the games were in Tampa I still wouldn't believe it. $100 sounds like way too pricey for tickets down there. But in Philly? Yeah, too good to be true.
http://www.newsday.com/sports/ny-spseries102,0,4458526.story
Matt Garza says:
Quote"I've done my early scouting, and I'll tell you what," Garza told NBC this week. "Facing that Phillies lineup compared to facing the Red Sox lineup, the Tigers' lineup or the Yankees' lineup, you get a little bit of a break with the Phillies' lineup."
I also love how the Newsday, a NY rag, calls CBP tiny. Interesting that Shea gave up more bombs this year than CBP.
thats cause of the mets bullpen and the great phillies bullpen...i cant imagine any park gives up more cheesy homers than the bank...and shea certainly doesnt
STFU and pass me some crack jizzy.
yummmmmie!
CW57 is showing game 6 of the 1980 World Series right now, including NBC pregame with Bryant Gumbel
Looks like the start will be delayed until 9-10ET...
(http://d.yimg.com/a/p/sp/getty/d2/fullj.db806f07868ef345972b4c7f85c2dd9e/db806f07868ef345972b4c7f85c2dd9e-getty-83274793mh015_world_series_.jpg)
whats the word now on the start time? how can they play in this crap?
Why are they asking for autographs from the enemy..he should be pelted with shtein, batteries and beer.
10:00 P.M. start for a world championship series is a total farging disgrace. MLB is a joke and so is the piece of shtein commissioner that allows this sort of idiocy to go on.
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on October 25, 2008, 09:32:39 PM
Why are they asking for autographs from the enemy..he should be pelted with shtein, batteries and beer.
sun stroke, oh wait, it's night time and it's been raining all day. yeah, kick his ass!
Quote from: Rome on October 25, 2008, 09:35:00 PM
10:00 P.M. start for a world championship series is a total farging disgrace. MLB is a joke and so is the piece of shtein commissioner that allows this sort of idiocy to go on.
let's just hope it's not a tie tonight ;)
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on October 25, 2008, 12:11:41 AM
Matt Garza says:
Quote"I've done my early scouting, and I'll tell you what," Garza told NBC this week. "Facing that Phillies lineup compared to facing the Red Sox lineup, the Tigers' lineup or the Yankees' lineup, you get a little bit of a break with the Phillies' lineup."
This was the only Ray I couldn't stand before the playoffs. Now I can't stand him even more.
I hope the crowd is drunk, loud and crazy.
LETS GO PHILS!
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on October 25, 2008, 09:44:26 PM
I hope the crowd is drunk, loud and crazy.
LETS GO PHILS!
i will be!
LET'S GO PHILS!
IGY, Phreak, are we going to be positive tonight? are we? if you are I'll be. promise.
Thanks to the delay, I think a lot of us have a good head start on the "drunk" part.
I cannot believe they played a childrens "fish, fish, fishy" song over the PA while announcing the Rays line-up.
Taylor Swift sang the Anthem like it should be, not trashy Backdoor Boys bullshtein.
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on October 25, 2008, 09:52:56 PM
I cannot believe they played a childrens "fish, fish, fishy" song over the PA while announcing the Rays line-up.
Yeah that was about as degrading as I've ever seen. :yay
Joe Buck thinks black people can't read.
music to my ears not hearing "At DH for the Phillies".
why didn't McCarver catch the first ball from Lefty?
Steve Carlton looks like he's lost a little heat on his fastball.
ah, Eva chant...lol
Looks like the ump is willing to go along with Moyer's shtein... game on!
oh sweet! atta boy jamie!
Quote from: Seabiscuit36 on October 25, 2008, 10:12:37 PM
ah, Eva chant...lol
now they need to get under Garza's skin.
Tim McCgraw with the John Miller "Pedro FEEHHHLLLEEEZZZZ".
JRoll with the leadoff hit! Hopefully the Phils can rattle this douchebag Garza early.
RISP, 0 outs. Let's see if anything is different tonight.
it's ok. i'll take the one run. this is good. now this crowd is making it feel like a WS game. good job people.
RUIZ FOR WORLD SERIES MVP
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Third World Assassin!
Ruiz must be putting something in his churros because he's been on fire.
Chooch is a goddamn PIMP.
Keep the pressure on this Sun Mo.
It's a different game when Rollins can get on base. He's in Garza's head.
i love our filters
shtein. JRoll had no chance there.
If it wasn't for great Rays defense, the Phils would have had some runs in that inning.
I have never seen a team farg itself out of so many chances and rallies in my entire life.
And Howard is beyond brutal now. His might be the worst performance in postseason history.
Moyer was dealing in that inning. Offense, please.
24, the Atlanta Falcons... do you want to hype American Idol also, Joe?
Look at that shtein Burrell swung at. Sad thing is that's a quality AB for Burrell.
They are just frigging hopeless at the plate right now. Bungling iceholes.
Anyone else's Comcast deciding to take a shtein right now? :boom
WHO IS THE icehole WHISTLING? CUT HIS fargING EYEBALLS OUT.
Moyer has been pitching beautifully tonight... someone PLEASE give this old man some offensive help!
Quote from: PhillyGirl on October 25, 2008, 11:32:07 PM
Anyone else's Comcast deciding to take a shtein right now? :boom
Yeah mine's doing the same thing. I'm glad it's not just me.
Moyer is dealin'...keep it up gramps.
This offense is sleepwalking. WAKE THE farg UP JITBAGS!
my picture on DTV gets grey for a second, then goes back to normal. Might be the overall feed out of Fox
Quote from: Seabiscuit36 on October 25, 2008, 11:52:15 PM
my picture on DTV gets grey for a second, then goes back to normal. Might be the overall feed out of Fox
FOX-HD is looking great to me.
thesde two announcers are just begging , begging for TB to do something. :boo
Quote from: QB Eagles on October 25, 2008, 11:54:20 PM
Quote from: Seabiscuit36 on October 25, 2008, 11:52:15 PM
my picture on DTV gets grey for a second, then goes back to normal. Might be the overall feed out of Fox
FOX-HD is looking great to me.
mine looks every once in a while like players are turning into t2000's
farg you Buck!
"How'd the park hold that one?"
Christ, thought that was a HR by Eva
Holy effing shtein...wow.
Whew!
Quote from: QB Eagles on October 25, 2008, 11:54:20 PM
Quote from: Seabiscuit36 on October 25, 2008, 11:52:15 PM
my picture on DTV gets grey for a second, then goes back to normal. Might be the overall feed out of Fox
FOX-HD is looking great to me.
fine here - like that helps 8,000 miles away.
That one made me poop myself a little bit.
Now...hows about one of these fargups get the offense going?
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on October 26, 2008, 12:00:39 AM
Holy effing shtein...wow.
Whew!
i don't know what was worse - the heart attack i almost suffered or the piece of shtein that came out.
"robbed by the elements" oh boy.
YES YES YES YES~~~~~~
UTLEY!
keep that shtein up!!!!!
Huge run.
As an aside, for everyone having cable issues, it's related to comcast digital. If you unplug your box and hook in normal cable, it works fine.
:yay
Where were the Elements on that one?
At least one of the big bats showed up for this series. Utley!
oh my god
There's the big man! 4-1
YESYESYESYESYESYESYES!!
HOWARD!
WAHOOOOOOOO!
Utley's face was priceless. oh shtein he just did it!
back 2 back 2 :sly
Odd, our Fox HD is completely perfect, but with the TV I'm watching it on, its all blocky and freezing up and the sound goes off.
Burrell sucks.
Buck is the WORST announcer ever. His dad should be ashamed. He's absolutely monotoned and emotionless...unless its a Tampa player doing something.
I got up to put my Utley jersey on and he hit a dinger so I sat down. My wife told me to put my Howard jersey on and the second I slipped it on he hit his dinger.
The lesson here is simple. I have to buy a different jersey for every Phillies player on the team.
PS: I synched Harry with the tv video. It's like paradise now.
Oh buck actually admitted he was out.
I can't take this ish.
yeah, really bad call again
Quote from: PhillyGirl on October 26, 2008, 12:14:54 AM
Buck is the WORST announcer ever. His dad should be ashamed. He's absolutely monotoned and emotionless...unless its a Tampa player doing something.
He's so pedestrian, with no personality or anything interesting to say... Ryan Seacrest in a broadcast booth.
Six umpires on the field and not one can get the call right. But sure, there's no need for instant replay in baseball. Not at all.
Quote from: QB Eagles on October 26, 2008, 12:18:28 AM
Quote from: PhillyGirl on October 26, 2008, 12:14:54 AM
Buck is the WORST announcer ever. His dad should be ashamed. He's absolutely monotoned and emotionless...unless its a Tampa player doing something.
He's so pedestrian, with no personality or anything interesting to say... Ryan Seacrest in a broadcast booth.
somebody called into 610 today and said they had a friend who won a chance to sit in on a buck/mccarver broadcast. He said Buck sits there and read novels in between innings, and during the game. Buck sucks period
If that blown call ends up costing them, I'll be furious.
And with that, my cable just COMPLETELY went out.
FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCK!
Play by play would be appreciated...anyone? :'( :'( :'(
nevermind...its up, just in time to see that double and to see that that blown call will end up costing the PHils.
farg.
There you go.
Blown call, ends up a run. :boom
If the Phils can hold on, Moyer will be the oldest starting pitcher to win a World Series game, ever.
An umpire's blown call costs them a run. Shocking.
4-2 Moyer's out, 1 out on a nice play by Howard at first, man on third for Tampa.
Quote from: QB Eagles on October 26, 2008, 12:24:51 AM
If the Phils can hold on, Moyer will be the oldest starting pitcher to win a World Series game, ever.
JINX
That run pisses me off, because it was a total sham
I am about sick and tired of these horrific calls.
MLB keeps defending them too.
THESE 6 iceholes are the best in the game? Please.
I hope they dont wake up tomorrow.
happy bday by the way phreak
Quote from: PhillyGirl on October 26, 2008, 12:24:09 AM
There you go.
Blown call, ends up a run. :boom
i have had it with these umpires. they are terrible. no excuse. there had better be one hell of an explanation by the MLB FO on that call.
The Phillies better win this game. Otherwise Tom Hallion might wanna think about entering the witness protection program.
Great, 1 run game. Inning should farging be over.
Quote from: Rome on October 26, 2008, 12:27:42 AM
The Phillies better win this game. Otherwise Tom Hallion might wanna think about entering the witness protection program.
Yep. Horrific call. How do you miss that staring right there. He looked out in real time too. JOKE
son of a bitch!
Quote from: Seabiscuit36 on October 26, 2008, 12:27:12 AM
happy bday by the way phreak
Thanks, bro.
Two Phillies wins and an Eagles in on October 26 would make it even better.
But these corksucking umpires are garbage!
Motherfarging corksucking motherfarger.
4-3 Phils
Durbin sucks
WTG Durbin.
Walk and a run. ::)
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and my HD just went out
I have only a few words for the way I feel right now, and all of them would be filtered.
And can someone please tell me why the infield wasn't playing in with a man on third with less than two outs?
C'mon fargers, one out here.
Whew. Eyre came through.
shut em down like Chuck D :yay
Sit the farg down, Charlie.
Quote from: Rome on October 26, 2008, 12:32:36 AM
And can someone please tell me why the infield wasn't playing in with a man on third with less than two outs?
Probably thinking they want to limit the big inning. One gets through the drawn in INF and it could be a bigger inning. That would be the only reason I could thnk of.
Wow - she's unfortunate looking.
Quote from: Rome on October 26, 2008, 12:36:26 AM
Sit the farg down, Charlie.
Awww man sooo wrong :-D
Quote from: phillymic2000 on October 26, 2008, 12:36:12 AM
shut em down like Chuck D :yay
6 more outs... let's get pumped
http://www.youtube.com/v/LB4D-GbQ9A4&hl=en&fs=1
long, light wa-era.
Very nice QB
Awesome job by Jenkins.
I think I'm going to be holding my breath the next two innings. The acute mixture of anger and nervousness is interesting.
The Rays put two up to match the Phillies and then the bums go 1-2-3 as easy as pie against a guy who should be cleaning pools for a living.
I want to hit something hard right now. Where's Rusty's dog?
Phillies seemed to have no clue how to hit that submariner. This next inning has me very nervous.
farg, leadoff man on base. :boom
Rollins needs to get that out of his glove.
for crying out loud, these two idiots are like junior high girls when ever anything good is happening for the rays.
wow
Now Carlos can't get it out of his glove? Not like he was going to get him anyway.
Oh for farg's sake!
Jesus christ of latter day saints.
Absolutely terrible.
Thank you umpire! It should be 4-2.
farging shteinbag
:boom
Choking Romes.
seriously? only one look at the guy..
fundamentals are key.. and the phillies don't have any.
Phillies D cost them that inning. Rollins and Ruiz both. They score without getting a ball hit out of the infield.
The veteran team isn't doing what it needs to do and this is the result. Absolutely unreal.
Upton basically turned an infield single into a solo home run. Horrible job by the Phils to keep him honest.
still should only be 4-2, thats the true joke in all of this
farging bullshtein.
Do something, offense, right now.
why the farg can't the phils get runs like that? so frustrating. an incredible game by Moyer and than this shtein. :boom
This would be much easier to take if I was drunk.
Quote from: phillymic2000 on October 26, 2008, 12:52:13 AM
for crying out loud, these two idiots are like junior high girls when ever anything good is happening for the rays.
i can't handle them anymore.
Quote from: Rome on October 26, 2008, 01:03:18 AM
This would be much easier to take if I was drunk.
its saturday night, you should be
Here we go O...time to launch again.
Get a goddamn run here. I dont care how; get one. Give it to Lidge.
I'm telling you, just sync the radio feed with the television. It's not hard if you have a tivo or dvr with pause feature.
Werth leads off with a walk.
NOW SCORE A fargING RUN, FAGGGGGGGGGGS.
please please do something with the base runner
I do not think JP Howell was ready in the 'pen. Maddon came out and they showed a shot of the BP guys yelling like he was not ready to come in. I hope his arm is tighter than a virgin's Hoyda.
I really can't take this.
3-2 to Utley. Werth on second. :paranoid
Runner in scoring position, no outs, big hitters up. MUST SCORE HERE!
Too worried about hitting that to right there. Have to have a better eye than that.
1-32 with RISP.
Awesome.
That's horrible right there.
Go small ball.
they deserve to lose.
Jayson Werth needs to die.
can't wait to watch howard finish getting eaten alive.
I guess costing them game 2 wasn't enough for that douchebag.
Good eye Ryan.
Both halves of that inning were vile. This game is really pissing me off now.
nice try u fat bitch.. dont even swing.
Does Werth have an empty farging head?
The SS is standing on the base and this chode gets picked off.
Stupidest motherfarger alive; Jayson Werth.
2R error
getting doubled off
getting picked off
goddamn fargface
Nice job, Ryan. It was only an 85 mph curve ball right down the middle.
:puke :bash :fire :flipoff :spank :win :chair
Wow that more button really helps me sum up this past inning .
just a werthless piece of shtein.
the phils just get exposed at the most critical times.
trust me, i am trying to stay positive here but.....................................
I want to vomit and punch things.
Namely Werth.
In the face.
I love how they keep going over the bunt hit.
thats fundamentals.. they dont have those.
A run wins it. C'mon bums.
This is the most physically ill I've been since the TB NFCCG.
Please...
Did you all have strokes?
Bunt Vic here then PH Dobbs vs Balfour?
normally i would agree with a bunt.. but being 1 for a million with RISP and feliz and ruiz (even though he's been decent) coming up i say swing away. being able to pop one is the only advantage they have over the rays.
HOLY shtein
No reason to bunt now! Dump it deep in the outfield, Shane!
This has to end NOW. PLEASEEEEE
please dont get picked off bruntlett.
Holy farging shteinburgers.
wth how long can you take
All we need is anything preventing a play at the plate. C'mon!
Five infielders.
FIVE.
:-D
WHY SWING THERE
LOL EXACTLY HOW WE fargING DREW IT UP
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LOL, I think that ball was going foul.
wow, crazy night, time for sleep, gotta get to havas tailgate by 9
THAT was the only way this game could end.
Quote from: QB Eagles on October 26, 2008, 01:50:20 AM
LOL, I think that ball was going foul.
Yep, if Eva lets it go, it rolls foul.
Wooooohooo!!
Way to get it done, boys. They got back the Upton run by Navarro being dumb. Thank you.
They deserved that win.
SO how many calls will get blown tomorrow?
Mai Tai''s on Don Ho!
I think I might be hallucinating a little right now.
i'm hallucinating as well. mainly because of the heart attack and stroke i just had.
Two down, two to go.
http://www.stumbleaudio.com/share/sandistevie2/4
Leslie says Tim McGraw reached into his pocket and spread Tug's ashes on the mound before the game :-\
Thats kind of cool.
Boys, I don't know what to say. I'm a happy man right now. A happy man.
Two words:
CRACK JIZZY!
Joe Buck is horrible. Just horrible. I used to able to stand him, but he farging brutal. Him and McCarver need to go NOW.
I was at my buddies house and he had DirecTV and the thing crapped out about 3 or 4 times. Man I know Comcast is awful but damn, that would never happen to them with these stupid farging dishes.
It's something about sports to make you hug people you don't know...
QuotePhils fans to miss big homers due to cable outage
The Associated Press
PHILADELPHIA - Some Phillies fans in the Philadelphia metro area missed back-to-back home runs by Chase Utley and Ryan Howard in Game 3 of the World Series on Saturday night due to a cable outage.
Comcast customers reported the loss of picture and sound, and the cable company blamed the outage in the Philadelphia area, parts of central Pennsylvania and South Jersey on an equipment failure.
The failure affected most standard definition channels, including the World Series on Fox, said Beth Bacha, vice president of communications for Comcast Cable East Division.
The outage started just before Utley and Howard pushed the Phillies lead to 4-1 with consecutive homers in the sixth inning of the rain-delayed game.
"We sincerely apologize to our customers," Bacha said. "We realize how many of them were watching the Phillies game."
Bacha said the outage was detected almost immediately and it took 15 to 25 minutes to get the channels fully restored.
Ironically those of us outside the Philly market had no problem getting the game. Good job, Comcrap. They must have hired some people from TBS.
Quote from: QB Eagles on October 26, 2008, 02:58:58 AM
Ironically those of us outside the Philly market had no problem getting the game. Good job, Comcrap. They must have hired some people from TBS.
Craig Sagar?
Quote from: QB Eagles on October 26, 2008, 02:02:25 AM
http://www.stumbleaudio.com/share/sandistevie2/4
that is so farging funny!
My daughter decided it's time to wake up. I don't even know what day it is, but I have a hangover and an erection.
QuoteWith Bruntlett on third, the Rays issued two intentional walks and brought in right fielder Ben Zobrist for a five-man infield.
"It looked like they were about to blitz," Howard said.
Ha. Ruck the Fays.
Quote from: QB Eagles on October 25, 2008, 10:44:37 PM
RUIZ FOR WORLD SERIES MVP
He's in the lead right now, for sure.
Quote from: BigEd76 on October 26, 2008, 02:08:24 AM
Leslie says Tim McGraw reached into his pocket and spread Tug's ashes on the mound before the game :-\
That explains why Garza took so long to settle in.
Quote from: L-ong-B-each-I-ggle on October 26, 2008, 01:24:17 AM
thats fundamentals.. they dont have those.
They're in the World Series.
But they don't have fundamentals.
Shut up idiot.
I don't know if that ball was going foul. Even Mitch Williams said he didn't think it would in those field conditions with no spin on the ball that was hit.
Regardless...that game was karma. After that BULLshtein call in the 7th, they deserved to win that game. I can't wait to hear MLB's officiating defend that pile of crap at first base's call.
Come on Fat boy Blanton...lets see a big game today
Jesus Christ. Settle down, PG. They're lucky as hell right now. They're literally like 2-100 with RISP right now and have committed more botched plays in the field than any team, much less one in the World Series, has a right to make.
The only thing that's kept this team in this series is the good to great pitching they've gotten. They have to start hitting the goddamn ball in timely situations, because you know damn right well Tampa will eventually.
Rome, I'm talking about the whole season.
By saying this team lacks the fundamentals is shteinting all over their season. Its been a rough 3 games with RISP, but that wasn't the case all. season. long...or they'd never be up 2-1 in the World farging Series.
Get my point?
BTW, you telling anyone to "settle down" is comical....with your 'season's over' and absolute ridiculous in-game posts so far in the playoffs. LOL
Do you honestly not understand that when I post "season's over, time to move on" it's the complete opposite of the intended meaning?
And me telling you to calm down was in reference to calling LBI an idiot simply because he was freaking out last night. We were all freaking out and when that happens we post stupid outlandish shtein and sometimes it's even shtein we don't mean.
Got that?
Simmer down!!
Yes, the Phillies lack fundamentals. Well, I shouldn't say lack....more so they are retarded in their fundamentals and not as good as 99% of the league.
Quote from: PhillyGirl on October 26, 2008, 08:46:42 AM
Quote from: L-ong-B-each-I-ggle on October 26, 2008, 01:24:17 AM
thats fundamentals.. they dont have those.
They're in the World Series.
But they don't have fundamentals.
Shut up idiot.
obviously being in MLB and in the series you have the fundamentals of baseball down. but you can't say they aren't heart attack inducing with some of their antics. they sure didn't get here solely on being able to move a runner over.. holding a runner on second.. not get picked off on second.. or even knowing when not to throw the farging baseball. their pitching and being able to knock the shtein out of the baseball did. luckily, the rays gave it right back at the end of the game. call me whatever the hell you want.. most of the time you dont get away with that shtein in the world series.
Last night was the single greatest sporting event I had ever witnessed. Being there was just unreal. Got there at 5pm...didnt leave until almost 10 hours later. Awesome crowd everywhere you went.
I'll be at game 5 too...this ends on monday.
Man I've been on so many highs and lows watching this series.
My liver hopes it's over by Monday!
Moyer pitched with a severe stomach virus (http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/story/8721632/)
Quote"It was so bad I had to change the sheets twice," Karen said. "He ruined two pillows. Our comforter is at the cleaners right now.
and how about this quote from his 15-yr old son, Hutton:
Quote"Know how the bloody sock went to the Hall of Fame? Our toilet seat should go to the Hall of Fame."
ha
I bet landing on his stomach during that diving stop felt real good
That virus may have been gold for Moyer. Less nervous energy, having to concentrate more. Perfect for his style of pitching.
Master Blaster!
Quote from: BigEd76 on October 26, 2008, 01:01:23 PM
Moyer pitched with a severe stomach virus (http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/story/8721632/)
Quote"It was so bad I had to change the sheets twice," Karen said. "He ruined two pillows. Our comforter is at the cleaners right now.
and how about this quote from his 15-yr old son, Hutton:
Quote"Know how the bloody sock went to the Hall of Fame? Our toilet seat should go to the Hall of Fame."
ha
I bet landing on his stomach during that diving stop felt real good
Moyer's Mud Butt = fantasy team name.
WHo'd he name his kid after, Tommy Hutton?!
I am so farging pumped for tonight. I'm insanely jealous of those lucky souls who got to do both WS games and the Eagles game today.
I'd give MDS' testicle to be there.
Jim Thome made a surprise appearance today
Patti LaBelle sings the national anthem tonight
Maddon said in his pregame conference today that his grandchildren were pelted with mustard packets last night. ha
Stairs is the only Phillie that has faced Sonnanstine and he has a HR off him
Cliff Floyd injured his shoulder in game 2 and has been dropped from the roster, replaced by Eric Hinske
win this one with Cole going tomorrow night...oh man
Wonder how big the Mustard Gate will become.
Maddon should consider his grandkids lucky. It could have been a stinkbomb.
The Rays have scored their last 8 runs on ONE lousy hit.
The kings of productive outs.
damn girl patti sing it sista
Terrible.
what cause a sista brings out them pipes you be hatin?
Rollins was out, who cares.
i would not have mind seeing Langoria take his bat to the umps head on the way back to the dugout.
wow, strike zone is very tight tonight.
Amazing how bad this team is with runners on. I cannot believe it.
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on October 26, 2008, 08:59:11 PM
Amazing how bad this team is with runners on. I cannot believe it.
i promised myself i am not going to comment on that topic tonight as i might kill someone maybe even myself.
Phils blowing too many damned opportunities. It's eventually going to bite them in the ass.
So far, though, Fatboy is looking darn good.
Ump's zone is tighter than a virgin's.
LOL at Burrell and Vic's ABs.
Feliz rescued another feeble attempt at scoring runs.
Historically bad. These iceholes can't buy a hit.
this game should be over by now. pathetic pathetic stuff.
Burrell and Victorino to be shot at dawn. Feliz gets a pardon.
HOWARD!!!!!
FINALLY!
HOLY shtein!
the reaction to that hit was sick
It's about time, Choje.
Even Howard was thinking "it's about damn time I hit something"
Hinkse goes Yard in his first at bat.
Blanton really might consider not throwing fastballs down the middle anymore.
Feliz doesn't even give the new pitcher a chance to throw a strike. He just swings at the first pitch.
Awesome.
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holy shtein
I don't believe what I just saw
Two hits in his entire life as a Major Leaguer and he farging smoked that ball.
Unreal.
When Fat Joe is hittin homers, you know you just might have a chance to win a championship.
The look on Burrell's face in the dugout was hilarious.
He's like, 'OH MY GOD!'
that's because Blanton has more hits than him in this series :-D
Nice post in ESPN chat:
Tim (Ohio): Joe Blanton now has more world series home runs than Alex Rodriguez!
i hate joe buck
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there, that should carry me for the rest of the game.
Seriously, matching the radio broadcast with television feed is not hard.
Stop listening to those hacks.
Madson just threw the changeup of his life to strike out Upton.
Wow.
nasty
Feliz looked safe, didnt look like the glove made contact in time
It was a catch so all Pena had to do was tag the base for the out
WERTHY!
Wow.
Wow.
Wow.
WOW.
Holy shtein is this really happening?
Stat padder.
;D
Quote from: QB Eagles on October 26, 2008, 11:21:02 PM
Holy shtein is this really happening?
That is EXACTLY what I just said. LOL
L.A. said that Werth might as well go ahead and hit a two run home run. Next pitch... BAM!
:-D
I'm 10 innings away from seeing my first championship.
I'm going up to Temple tomorrow night to watch the game. If they clinch I will be part of the mob that burns down Philly.
T-Mac just said that Lidge just sat down.
Quote from: Rome on October 26, 2008, 11:22:58 PM
L.A. said that Werth might as well go ahead and hit a two run home run. Next pitch... BAM!
:-D
haha, I wish I heard that.
What was IGY saying again about the Phillies and not being able to hit Rays' pitching....and something about not winning another game without Hamels?
Just saying, IGY. :-D
HOLY shtein CHOKE!!!1
Save some of these homers for tomorrow, boys.
PARTY AT MY HOUSE
WOW!
10-2
Quote from: QB Eagles on October 26, 2008, 11:25:30 PM
Save some of these homers for tomorrow, boys.
No way...they NEEEEEEEEED this!
Hamels pitches tomorrow.
What the hell is going on here?
this is the one time in my life where this shtein is happening so might as well dry ma pants off and enjoy it
Quote from: Rome on October 26, 2008, 11:26:19 PM
What the hell is going on here?
A Philadelphia team isn't wilting in the spotlight and totally choking for once?
But I'll knock on wood as they still have 3 games to do so.
Not wilting but coming alive right before our eyes.
Gay play by Romero...lazyass.
I love this team.
3 down 1 to go
I don't even know what to say. My wife and I were up high fiving each other like little kids.
We're one game away from making my :CF sig completely irrelevant. :crazy
1 MORE YOU funholeS 1 MORE farg ME
I also don't want to hear that those HRs were cheap ass ones either. They were all (except Blanton's) HRs in any park in MLB.
I could care less if its 1-0 or 10-9.
1 more win. unreal.
Quote from: PhillyGirl on October 26, 2008, 11:43:59 PM
I also don't want to hear that those HRs were cheap ass ones either. They were all (except Blanton's) HRs in any park in MLB.
If ANY home run was a CBP special, it was Crawford's.
Maddon: "especially in this ballpark"
Your team was hitting HRs like there was no tomorrow....why aren't they hitting them in "THIS" ballpark?
Howard's home run to right would have left the grand canyon. That was an absolute blast.
Quote from: PhillyGirl on October 26, 2008, 11:52:39 PM
Maddon: "especially in this ballpark"
Your team was hitting HRs like there was no tomorrow....why aren't they hitting them in "THIS" ballpark?
The Bank really is a pitcher's paradise.
Quote from: ice grillin you on July 17, 2008, 09:42:35 PM
they also could have waited closer to the deadline when presumably some other names better than fatty blanton will hit the block
i agree this is an eaton upgrade and not a terrible trade but its not going to win them the world series thus its a failure
haha there's probably gems like that all throughout this thread. And not just from him.
But...mostly from him.
Is anyone watching Blanton's presser? Some wise ass just asked him "what that stuff on your hat is?"
What a farging loser. I want to find out who asked that.
we're a Cole Hamels win at home away from a World Series championship
I still can't believe this
Blanton left his hat on the bench and Moyer sat on it by accident.
Quote from: King Cole on October 26, 2008, 11:58:51 PM
Is anyone watching Blanton's presser? Some wise ass just asked him "what that stuff on your hat is?"
When he kept rubbing his bill, I was actually kinda hoping that Blanton was getting away with doctored balls. Stuff like that makes the game fun. In this case though, I'm pretty sure Blanton is just a filthy southerner with a flithy hat and some filthy pitches.
Joe Maddon said he was concerned about it too. They asked Charlie about it and he took the high road and said it didn't bother him.
Quote from: QB Eagles on October 26, 2008, 11:55:01 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on July 17, 2008, 09:42:35 PM
they also could have waited closer to the deadline when presumably some other names better than fatty blanton will hit the block
i agree this is an eaton upgrade and not a terrible trade but its not going to win them the world series thus its a failure
why bother QB
Im shocked nobody made the thread "The Worst IGY Predictions Ever" yet...could have hit a solid 20 pages easy
Daily News back page: "Joe the Lumber" ha
1 MORE fargING WIN WOW
I've reached the point of total exhaustion, fellas.
Have a good night.
Quote from: reese125 on October 27, 2008, 12:04:31 AMwhy bother QB
Im shocked nobody made the thread "The Worst IGY Predictions Ever" yet...could have hit a solid 20 pages easy
Not about picking on IGY. Most of the time I like him. Everyone's made bad predictions on here, including me. Before last year I was a habitual Phillies basher. Only reason for posting that July post is how funny it is in light of tonight's game. Blanton shredded an opposing team in the World Series.
oh man i guess i gotta go to philly tomorrow...i don't know if my liver can handle 4 days of straight drinking...but this is something special!
Like I said...IGY probably as a ton of posts like that in this thread, including the "Rays in 6" post, that are just hilarious hyperbole.
But I guarentee he's not the only one that people here could dig up gems on in this thread.
McNabb spotted in the hallway behind Leslie and Wheels, wearing full Phillies gear
Who is going tomorrow???? I'll be there.. wOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
I have no tickets but my 14 year old son and I will be near there. Where is the best spot not in the stadium? Will the lots be rocking for the game?
Take him to Risque...he'll love it
I was looking for the picture I have of him getting kicked out of Hustler Hollywood in New Orleans earlier this year. He snuck in and remained for like 45 minutes. It still a little nebulous how he got away from my son and snuck in. Unfortunately, the picture is not to be found. That's a true story. He was also caught negotiating with a hooker on Bourbon St.
Seriously, does anyone think the lots will be a good place to be during the game.
(http://media.philly.com/images/081026_PHILS_YK_06.jpg)
(http://media.philly.com/images/081026_PHILS_BJ_01.jpg)
Wow.
King on the mound in a clinching game.
Howard finally heated up. Rollins too.
Blanton going yard = stars aligning for Philadelphia.
I can't stop crying. I may actually need hospitalization if the Phils (I almost said we) win the series.
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on October 27, 2008, 12:39:25 AM
Wow.
King on the mound in a clinching game.
Howard finally heated up. Rollins too.
Blanton going yard = stars aligning for Philadelphia.
yeah...I mean..if thats not a sign...christ.
I no its never good to celebrate early...but the champagne will be ordered and delivered to the crib at 5pm..farg it
Quote from: bowzer on October 27, 2008, 12:22:57 AM
Who is going tomorrow???? I'll be there.. wOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
I just emptied my bank account but I'll be there.
:evil
Quote from: Eagles_Legendz on October 27, 2008, 12:47:51 AM
Quote from: bowzer on October 27, 2008, 12:22:57 AM
Who is going tomorrow???? I'll be there.. wOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
I just emptied my bank account but I'll be there.
:evil
I got a ticket as a gift... best surprise of my life...
SOMEONE HOLD ME
From the getting ahead of myself department-- if they win, when will the parade be? I told my son I'd try to bring him.
Blanton HR (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EwjpBPOYeIU)
Quote from: Zanshin on October 27, 2008, 08:14:13 AM
From the getting ahead of myself department-- if they win, when will the parade be? I told my son I'd try to bring him.
Yeah, I need to know this info too...anyone?
If they win tonight my guess would be Wednesday...I'm a little surprised there is no info out there...I would have thought the papers or news would have something by now. I just want to know what the parking situation is going to be
you'd probably park in spots
Quote from: SunMo on October 27, 2008, 09:04:12 AM
you'd probably park in spots
There aren't going to be enough
ride a bike
http://www.sportsline.com/mlb/story/11063658
:-o
haha, from another CBS column:
QuoteI'm not certain what's more impressive: the way the Phillies have thoroughly intimidated and battered the Rays since the series shifted here or how the Rays' spines have crumpled into little pieces under the dynamo that is Philadelphia.
The pounding Tampa Bay has taken won't change what was a historic and an impressive overall season, but it does make you wonder just how good were these Rays now that they're getting the Buffalo Bills treatment.
You knew the Rays were in trouble when they got smoked by the 75-year-old Jamie Moyer and his stubborn case of diarrhea.
http://www.nysportsday.com/themofo2/new-york-mets/11563-tampa-bay.html
this Mets board thread is priceless
The fat jokes are great...considering the slobs posting them are probably licking the slop off of their fingers so they can type on the keyboards of their parent's computers.
The umps are screwing the Rays. I guess they missed games 2 and 3. :-D
If there is a parade, im sleeping in the streets tuesday night
Quote from: Seabiscuit36 on October 27, 2008, 09:18:59 AM
If there is a parade, im sleeping in the streets tuesday night
Like you wouldn't be doing that anyway.
Quote from: Geowhizzer on October 27, 2008, 10:02:15 AM
Quote from: Seabiscuit36 on October 27, 2008, 09:18:59 AM
If there is a parade, im sleeping in the streets tuesday night
Like you wouldn't be doing that anyway.
You dont know how hard i have it, i have like 10000 cats outside
Quote from: SunMo on October 27, 2008, 09:12:45 AM
http://www.nysportsday.com/themofo2/new-york-mets/11563-tampa-bay.html
this Mets board thread is priceless
That is gold.
lmfao...Skip Bayless just said that the Rays would win tonight.
I still hate that guy.
Quote from: PhillyGirl on October 27, 2008, 09:09:06 AM
http://www.sportsline.com/mlb/story/11063658
:-o
Quote"If we could do something about that," Maddon said before Game 4. "Throwing mustard packs at my granddaughter is not very cool."
I disagree. That's pretty cool. Maybe his granddaughter shouldn't wear a Rays jersey in Philly.
Mustard packets don't hurt.
Well, they do if you freeze them and throw 20 at a time.
farg his grandkids
Figuratively, yes. Literally, not until she's 18.
Did anyone else notice this from the first CBS article PG posted:
Quote"When we saw the dogs and the horses coming out that night, we said, 'Well, we understand. It's Philadelphia,' " said legendary broadcaster Chris Wheeler, who has been in the Phillies' booth since 1977.
Guuuuuuuuuuuuu.
1
shocking
Amaro will be the next GM (http://www.philly.com/philly/sports/phillies/20081027_Phillies_Notes__Amaro_expected_to_be_named_Phils__GM.html)
Quote from: BigEd76 on October 27, 2008, 12:02:50 PM
shocking
Amaro will be the next GM (http://www.philly.com/philly/sports/phillies/20081027_Phillies_Notes__Amaro_expected_to_be_named_Phils__GM.html)
I will be furious if the Rays manage to win the next three games, regardless of this news.
I will not give a shtein if the Phillies win one of the next three, regardless of this news.
Good time for them to leak it.
Go back in time to page 137 for some good amusement re: the Blanton deal (http://www.concretefield.com/forum/index.php?topic=20075.msg615351#msg615351).
Quote from: ice grillin you on July 17, 2008, 03:31:42 PM
hes a michelin man looking whale...cant wait to see this lard assed sweatbox in the august heat
Quote from: MDS on July 17, 2008, 03:36:30 PM
id rather go for broke and get holliday then some mediocre pitcher who will be a slight improvement over ja happ
Quote from: SD_Eagle on July 17, 2008, 07:22:37 PM
Lovely
Same crap as in the past. They needed a 1/2 but they end up with a 4/5. If this is the pitching upgrade - and I'm pretty sure it is - no way they're able to make a run this season.
Quote from: Wingspan on July 17, 2008, 07:31:22 PM
There's nothing wrong with that move. They gave up nothing for him. Cardenas was a moderate prospect. But he wasn't ever going to play here while Utley and Rollins are here.
Nothing spectactular, but a decent move nonetheless.
Score one for Wingspan.
Quote from: SD_Eagle on July 17, 2008, 08:04:18 PM
There is something wrong with this move. This is it, Joe freaking Blanton. Problem is he isn't much of an upgrade over Eaton. They needed another quality starter not an end of the rotation guy.
It's fair to say Blanton has wildly exceeded expectations, especially in the postseason.
I tried to find the FastFreddie outlook on the Blanton move but my search came up empty
And I've never been prouder to admit I was wrong
I have a hard time contemplating the fact that in about an hour...i'm leaving work to go witness this in person. Seriously...I am speechless on this. Attending on saturday night was the greatest event I have ever attended...but it could be less than 48 hours in the top spot....To think, I contemplated selling these tickets about a week ago. Hard to believe, Harry...
(http://www.johnnygoodtimes.com/ashburn.jpg)
farg yeah! Go Phils!
(http://www.fansedge.com/Images/Product/35-88/35-88251-F.jpg)
I can't concentrate for crap today. I have a buttload of work to get done but I just don't have the ability to focus at all.
@ winger... don't sell them. I don't care what someone offers you. Trust me, I was at that game in 1980 and nothing in my life short of seeing my daughter being born comes close.
Quote from: SD_Eagle on October 27, 2008, 01:18:56 PM
I tried to find the FastFreddie outlook on the Blanton move but my search came up empty
And I've never been prouder to admit I was wrong
I vividly remember that I thought the move was simply meaningless. I wasn't angry or happy about it, because I thought the outcome of the season would be a choke job regardless.
No way am I selling them, I am meeting my dad at about 4 at the schmidt statue. .
I was offered up to $2000 for these tickets. No farging way would I sell them. No chance. .
Have a great time, Wing. Hopefully you get to witness some history.
I can't believe this may really happen.
Quote from: Seabiscuit36 on October 27, 2008, 10:03:03 AM
Quote from: Geowhizzer on October 27, 2008, 10:02:15 AM
Quote from: Seabiscuit36 on October 27, 2008, 09:18:59 AM
If there is a parade, im sleeping in the streets tuesday night
Like you wouldn't be doing that anyway.
You dont know how hard i have it, i have like 10000 cats outside
You heard, right? Ryan and I will be sponsoring you at the Honolulu Institute For Human Services when you're here in December. I heard the cardboard cots are to die for and..............they serve Spam Musubi.
Quote from: PhillyGirl on October 27, 2008, 10:10:51 AM
lmfao...Skip Bayless just said that the Rays would win tonight.
I still hate that guy.
someone tell that asswipe that TO doesn't play for the Phils.
Quote from: Rome on October 27, 2008, 01:27:03 PM
I can't concentrate for crap today. I have a buttload of work to get done but I just don't have the ability to focus at all.
i'm sitting here trying to get some work done, yeah right. i'm going nuts. i'm a nervous wreck.
think i'll pop in an old episode of Hawaii 5-0 and watch McGarret kick the shtein out of some thug to calm me down.
Taking the train up to Temple tonight....I hope they farging do this tonight, at home. The home crowd deserves it.
Go Phils. I had goose bumbs last night after Howards first homer. Tonights the night!
LOL...is IGY dead after this past weekend?
http://www.wunderground.com/radar/radblast.asp?zoommode=pan&prevzoom=zoom&num=6&frame=0&delay=15&scale=1.000&noclutter=0&ID=DOX&type=N0R&showstorms=0&lat=0&lon=0&label=you&map.x=400&map.y=240&scale=1.000¢erx=400¢ery=240&showlabels=1&rainsnow=0&lightning=0&lerror=20&num_stns_min=2&num_stns_max=9999&avg_off=9999&smooth=0
I just saw that.
shtein. shtein. shtein.
Quote from: PhillyGirl on October 27, 2008, 04:27:37 PM
LOL...is IGY dead after this past weekend?
Since about early august, he's only posted in this thread when they've lost. Not always but most of the time.
Quote from: Seabiscuit36 on October 27, 2008, 10:03:03 AM
Quote from: Geowhizzer on October 27, 2008, 10:02:15 AM
Quote from: Seabiscuit36 on October 27, 2008, 09:18:59 AM
If there is a parade, im sleeping in the streets tuesday night
Like you wouldn't be doing that anyway.
You dont know how hard i have it, i have like 10000 cats outside
Ha! I just noticed this. Well done.
Quote from: PhillyGirl on October 27, 2008, 04:27:37 PM
LOL...is IGY dead after this past weekend?
he very well might be. Hell, yesterday was Crack Jizzy, and it was crackalackin
Quote from: FastFreddie on October 27, 2008, 04:47:32 PM
Quote from: Seabiscuit36 on October 27, 2008, 10:03:03 AM
Quote from: Geowhizzer on October 27, 2008, 10:02:15 AM
Quote from: Seabiscuit36 on October 27, 2008, 09:18:59 AM
If there is a parade, im sleeping in the streets tuesday night
Like you wouldn't be doing that anyway.
You dont know how hard i have it, i have like 10000 cats outside
Ha! I just noticed this. Well done.
i was laughing hysterically at that whole part, Frank coming in with beads on, slamming down some catfood, and passing out..
I might love you guys more than ever tonight. Be warned.
I haven't been on the board in a long time, but it's almost surreal to think that at last, the city could get a sports championship after 25 years. When the Phils won in '80, I was stationed in Japan; now in '08, as they get ready to perhaps win another, I live now in London. The night of the '80 clincher, they had perhaps the best LHP at that time in baseball take the mound; tonight in perhaps this clincher, they have the best LHP of this post season taking the mound.
I attended the Eagles home opener this year, flying over with my one of my daughters and a British colleague of mine, who had never seen an NFL game in person, or attended a tailgayte. But my orignal plans was to fly over this past weekend for the Falcons game--I'm kicking myself in the butt for changing plans--I know it would have been very remote for me to score Series tickets, but to be home when the city was feeling those great vibes would have been awesome.
i'm farging climbing the walls! i can't take it! i feel like Lloyd Bridges in the movie "Airplane", "I picked a bad time to quit sniffing glue".
let's get it on!
(http://tbn0.google.com/images?q=tbn:SCzRTZ_U-br-DM:http://i126.photobucket.com/albums/p100/lastofthebenders/FreeRep7-TV/Lloyd-Bridges-3.gif)
im on edge.
I ditched my last class because whats the point of being there when you can't concentrate on shtein. Not to mention my 2 and 430 classes were maybe a little over half filled.
I'm farging pumped the farg up.
Lets go King!!!!!!!!!
:crazy
Get the game started already!
ESPN:
Quote7:10 p.m. ET
As I was standing on the field, I started to feel pellets of rain come down. I hadn't realized we were due for another front, and by the time I got back to the press box, all the talk was about how we could all be in for another long night.
The local news showed a front moving north, and one colleague told me it's supposed to come down harder than it did on Saturday night, when the start of the game was delayed 91 minutes because of rain. I'm told it could be really bad around 11 p.m. As of right now, at 7:10 p.m., it's coming down lightly outside, but the Rays are still taking batting practice.
--Amy K. Nelson
McNabb is reading line-ups tonight
Not to jinx anything, but if the Phillies win tonight, the parade will be Wednesday. The route will begin at 20th and Market in Center City, proceed to City Hall, take a turn onto Broad Street and will end at Citizens Bank Park. No word yet on the time.
From Peter King's MMQB:
Quote4. I think Ronde Barber may have 33 career interceptions, but his 34th, if made, would have been the most memorable one of his career. Barber was at Tropicana Field for Game 1 of the World Series the other night, sitting in row two, just beyond the first-base dugout. In the fifth inning, B.J. Upton hit a high foul pop near the stands, and Phillies first baseman Ryan Howard chased it. As the ball fell, Howard leaned into the stands and plucked it out of the air -- with Barber sitting there watching, his wife clinging to his shoulders with a fearful look on her face. Barber showed off the photo of Howard's catch, with him clearly visible, Saturday, and I asked him where the ball would have landed if Howard hadn't caught it. "Right at my feet,'' he said. He said Howard glowered at the crowd after making the catch. He'd have glowered a lot more if Barber had battled him for it
Thanks for something finally, Ronde.
Karma :evil
i feel like im going to hurl
before we start tonight, i just want to say, i love you guys.
lol, Pat the Ladies man
Great start!
C'mon Chooch! Kill the Rays.
Pat Burrell is without a doubt the slowest human being alive.
Way to go Shane!!!
I can live with 2-0. The way this game is looking so far, the Phils will have the bases loaded up again. 24 outs is all that separates Philadelphia from a championship.
Peña can't even bunt his way onto base.
Awesome start.
farging A!
The Hawaiian without sleeves on tonight puts 'em ahead and Cole is on cruise control.
LETS GO BABY!
Werth Sucks ass
Uh oh.
Nice at-bat by Werth. Not sure if it makes up for that double.
This isn't going to be easy. And, considering the rain, it's probably not going to finish before midnight.
Goddamn it.
Absolutely ridiculous. This game should be delayed.
Incredible play by Chase.
Quote from: Rome on October 27, 2008, 09:55:12 PM
Absolutely ridiculous. This game should be delayed.
I agree. The field is going to get muddy and farged up soon with rain at that rate.
It's like God himself is taunting us now. :-D
Quote from: Rome on October 27, 2008, 09:55:12 PM
Absolutely ridiculous. This game should be delayed.
Officially they could call the game now... ;)
Kazmir can't get footing on that mound, it's obvious.
Rome, where are you getting the Audio feed from?
This is starting to get the feel of a freak weather game. That makes FOX, MLB, the Rays, the Phillies, and myself nervous. You'd like to see this game decided by baseball instead of the elements...
no delay, we need Cole in there. Just keep dumpin the diamond dry and get me my world series!!!!
Return of the choking Romes.
Quote from: Seabiscuit36 on October 27, 2008, 10:12:52 PM
gotta pay for it right?
I have MLB.TV and the audio package is part of it.
Choking bums.
Why oh why oh WHY are they chasing high fastballs?!?!
Goddamn I'm nervous.
I'm telling you, it's like Mother Nature, God, Allah, Jesus & George Carlin are all conspiring against us.
Quote from: QB Eagles on October 27, 2008, 10:00:12 PM
Quote from: Rome on October 27, 2008, 09:55:12 PM
Absolutely ridiculous. This game should be delayed.
Officially they could call the game now... ;)
has that ever happened in recent WS history? that's just wrong.
Quote from: Don Ho on October 27, 2008, 10:22:54 PM
Quote from: QB Eagles on October 27, 2008, 10:00:12 PM
Quote from: Rome on October 27, 2008, 09:55:12 PM
Absolutely ridiculous. This game should be delayed.
Officially they could call the game now... ;)
has that ever happened in recent WS history? that's just wrong.
Never has happened and never will happen. It's just in the rulebook.
holy crap! i just checked accuweather and this shtein ain't going anywhere soon.
fairly obvious the umps want to get out of here as well.
Rome,
How long is the delay with mlb.com? I have it as well but last week it was almost a 60 second delay.
farg!!!
C'mon Jimmy. shtein shtein shtein shtein shtein
LOL, look at that crazy swamp at second base.
Buck is bitching about the weather because it hurts the Rays.
went to the WS and a Monster Truck Rally broke out. this is ridiculous.
fargin slip n slide.
do these pricks think just the Rays are frustrated?
farg, tie game.
oh shtein.
once again all these farging runers left on base.
Let's all remain calm.
This is a total farging disgrace.
Seth Everett on WIP said MLB officials told him that there is no way they call the game. If they stop play, it will either be the longest delay in history or they'd resume it at another day.
Quote from: Don Ho on October 27, 2008, 10:31:04 PM
Rome,
How long is the delay with mlb.com? I have it as well but last week it was almost a 60 second delay.
At least. I have DVR so I just pause the video until the audio feed catches up. I shut it off, though, because it was annoying me.
Joe Buck is so in the bag for TB its ridiculous.
"If I'm Joe Maddon I go out there..."
STFU.
Now we have a farging tie game.
Can someone PLEASE get a run in?!?!?!
This is ridiculous
Quote from: Seabiscuit36 on October 27, 2008, 10:40:36 PM
Seth Everett on WIP said MLB officials told him that there is no way they call the game. If they stop play, it will either be the longest delay in history or they'd resume it at another day.
Yeah, that's obvious. The question is whether they stop the game here and resume it later or tomorrow. If they don't stop it now, they probably won't stop it ever.
Now they call a delay.
AFTER they tie it.
Jesus.
Unmotherfarging believable. They wait until Tampa ties it up and then they go into a rain delay.
It might be the worst disgrace in the history of sports.
this is farging sad.
Tuesday Night: A chance of showers, mainly before 1am. Mostly cloudy, with a low around 38. Breezy, with a west wind between 15 and 20 mph, with gusts as high as 33 mph. Chance of precipitation is 30%.
Wednesday Night: Partly cloudy, with a low around 36. West wind between 6 and 9 mph.
This is SELIG BULLshtein
LOL at the MLB again
Who starts our three-inning game on Wednesday?
the worst part about this whole abortion is losing our ace.
What a fargin nightmare. How do you wait until TB scores to call it? And Joe and Tim are out of fargin control. THese two douches need to be shot
worst thing about this is watching these clowns transform into their old selves again at the plate.
farging blue balls
i just can't believe this shtein. wait 25 years for this. unbelievable. once again phils should be up by 2 or 3 runs.
And when they resume the game we will be vomited on by the two asshats about how TB has the Mo now. Farg I wanna hit someone right now.
It's so typical that something like this would happen to us, though. Of all the bizarre, incredibly ridiculous scenarios to unfold, this one takes the cake.
They actually waited until the game was tied despite the fact that everything about the game was unplayable. The field was unplayable, it was pouring ass rain to the point where a great fielder like Rollins can't even make a routine play at short - just an abomination.
Quote from: L-ong-B-each-I-ggle on October 27, 2008, 10:48:26 PM
the worst part about this whole abortion is losing our ace.
Rest of Game 5 delayed to Wednesday ----> Game 7 = Hamels?
Dupuy on FOX said that the radar showed this rain all night...WHY not suspend it before they tie it up? If you asshats knew it would not let up, and we all knew that, why let them continue?
Buck, McCarver, Selig, Dupuy, and the umpires are iceholes. Stone cold iceholes.
Joe Maddon whining and the umps do not even go talk to Charlie.
Only to PHiladelphia, boys. This is the type of thing that happens to us.
Quote from: QB Eagles on October 27, 2008, 10:52:55 PM
Quote from: L-ong-B-each-I-ggle on October 27, 2008, 10:48:26 PM
the worst part about this whole abortion is losing our ace.
Rest of Game 5 delayed to Wednesday ----> Game 7 = Hamels?
no, they wouldn't have a travel day between 5 and 6 if that were to happen. game 7 would be on friday and they have already stated they wont pitch him on 3 days rest.
Quote from: QB Eagles on October 27, 2008, 10:52:55 PM
Quote from: L-ong-B-each-I-ggle on October 27, 2008, 10:48:26 PM
the worst part about this whole abortion is losing our ace.
Rest of Game 5 delayed to Wednesday ----> Game 7 = Hamels?
oh, but he needs his rest.
Quote from: L-ong-B-each-I-ggle on October 27, 2008, 10:58:03 PM
Quote from: QB Eagles on October 27, 2008, 10:52:55 PM
Quote from: L-ong-B-each-I-ggle on October 27, 2008, 10:48:26 PM
the worst part about this whole abortion is losing our ace.
Rest of Game 5 delayed to Wednesday ----> Game 7 = Hamels?
no, they wouldn't have a travel day between 5 and 6 if that were to happen. game 7 would be on friday and they have already stated they wont pitch him on 3 days rest.
Has it been stated as fact that there would be no travel day?
Each time some shtein like this happens, I can't help but think.....
"The Curse of Billy Penn"(http://th215.photobucket.com/albums/cc59/sid_vicious2007/th_billypenn.jpg)
if there is a travel day it would give Cole another chance. No way in hell they have a rest day.
Quote10:52 p.m. ET
The run the Rays scored in the sixth inning (after they had two outs and nobody on) might have saved Major League Baseball from one of its all-time October embarrassments.
Because that run tied the game, the rules now permit the game to be stopped, suspended and resumed when the skies clear -- whatever day, week or month that is.
But had the Phillies held onto the lead and the game then was stopped, the rules wouldn't have allowed a suspension. So baseball might have been faced with having the World Series end with the first rain-shortened game in Series history.
So talk about your clutch hits. When Carlos Pena lined that RBI single, the Rays might have been down to their final strike of the season -- in the sixth inning.
--Jayson Stark
it was stated that there wouldn't have been a travel day tomorrow had there been a rain out on sat. and it went back to tampa. so i'm assuming in the event of a postponement they would still eliminate any travel days.
You know what? farg it. I'm going to bed. If they resume and they win, great. If not, whatever. Later, guys.
(http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/baseball/2002/allstar/news/2002/07/09/allstar_game_ap/lg_selig_ap.jpg)
Quote from: QB Eagles on October 27, 2008, 11:03:30 PM
Quote10:52 p.m. ET
The run the Rays scored in the sixth inning (after they had two outs and nobody on) might have saved Major League Baseball from one of its all-time October embarrassments.
Because that run tied the game, the rules now permit the game to be stopped, suspended and resumed when the skies clear -- whatever day, week or month that is.
But had the Phillies held onto the lead and the game then was stopped, the rules wouldn't have allowed a suspension. So baseball might have been faced with having the World Series end with the first rain-shortened game in Series history.
So talk about your clutch hits. When Carlos Pena lined that RBI single, the Rays might have been down to their final strike of the season -- in the sixth inning.
--Jayson Stark
and if the ball didn't stop the second it hit the soaking wet outfield grass and kept rolling to burrell like it normally should then they
might have gotten upton by at least 3 steps.
seligs a farging retard.
according to 1060 the games very close to officially being suspended.
* The grounder to Jimmy is fielded and thrown to 1st, routine play. Not tonight.
* Not calling an INF fly rule because of the elements...should have been a massive indicator.
From the FOG BOWL to the SOG BOWL.
farg YOU BUD.
theradar has a lot of yellow on it, no way they resume this game. Mother fargers farg everyone.
i hate major league baseball.
i'll give joe buck a small amount of praise as he was saying these conditions were horrible for three innings.
this could only happen to us.
he said only because the rays were losing
Mr. Self Importance was on MLB Mosaic (according to someone on the Phils MB; I guess that is XM radio?) and sent his players up the tunnel and then went out to talk to the umps.
I hope when they resume this they unleash a beating on Tampa never seen before. Send those shteinbags back to Florida with their hopes crushed.
Quote from: phillymic2000 on October 27, 2008, 11:14:26 PM
he said only because the rays were losing
probably as the fricken camera was locked on the Rays dugout for 3/4 of the game.
Officially suspended until tomorrow.
Exactly 30 minutes after the tarp was pulled out.
Great job Selig you spineless piece of shtein.
i am ready to explode right now. i still can't believe this.
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on October 27, 2008, 11:16:53 PM
Officially suspended until tomorrow.
Exactly 30 minutes after the tarp was pulled out.
Great job Selig you spineless piece of shtein.
what time?
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press conference coming up any minute from CBP.
Sign at CBP: earliest tomorrow is 8pm. Hold onto the tickets if you have them
This PC is a farging joke.
Bud is clueless. He keeps deflecting blame by saying "everyone agreed"
riot. now.
holy ish Selig needs to die. He said if the Rays DIDN'T tie the game, they'd STILL play the full 9 innings, even though THERE'S NOTHING IN THE RULES LETTING HIM DO THAT
Gillick at the mic now. He's pissed
Oh my, Bud is making an ass out of himself.
He said they would have suspended it 2-1 Phils leading. SO WHY DIDN'T YOU DO IT?!?!
They wait for the darlings to tie it and then call it. Bullshtein.
Bud saying that it was his judgment and that he didn't want the WS to end that way...after 5 innings.
Die.
Now they're asking Bud what weather services he used :-D
So to recap, we've had 2 games in one day and 1 game in two days
looks like we'll see y'all on Wednesday. Calling for the same shtein tomorrow.
1975 WS was postponed two nights due to rain in Boston. Than again Bowie "at least I have a clue" Kuhn was the commish.
Bud Selig looks like a moron up there.
My mind is totally blown by the fact that they are sitting up there swearing that they would have suspended it 2-1...but they wait through the 5th and top of the 6th to do it after the Rays score.
Unreal.
And Tim Welke with his "velocity of the rain..." bullshtein.
Feed that shtein to someone else, icehole
can Lidge go three?
In all honesty, I wouldn't want to win in a 5 inning game Phreak.
World Series Champions
2007 - Boston Red Sox
2008 - Philadelphia Phillies ***
No thanks.
good point on WIP, if we don't go tomorrow we get to talk about this for two days. swell.
Quote from: PhillyGirl on October 27, 2008, 11:37:23 PM
In all honesty, I wouldn't want to win in a 5 inning game Phreak.
World Series Champions
2007 - Boston Red Sox
2008 - Philadelphia Phillies ***
No thanks.
totally agree. i want a WS championship so bad but to win it like that would be wrong.
Quote from: Don Ho on October 27, 2008, 11:37:11 PM
can Lidge go three?
good question-- do the phils burn myers? or do they go right to the bullpen. i'd assume they go bullpen with myers on standby..
I dont want a 5-inning win either.
But Bud The Abortion said they would have suspended it 2-1, it would have been termed a "rain delay" and they leave it as such until resumes.
So no win, just a rain delay. But they kept it going until TB scored.
It should have bee rain delayed after the 5th.
I swear if this somehow costs us the series, I'm going to pull an AJ Soprano jump off the Ben Franklin with cinder blocks tied to my feet. I'll have a buddy post it on here for your enjoyment so at least you'll get some entertainment out of this travesty.
Mitch Williams just made a good point.
Hamels had to pitch in that slop, gave up a run and they didn't have their pitcher come in and pitch in that slop to give the Phils the same advantage?
Bad. Really bad.
Bottalico and Williams are PISSED.
Which is my whole point of anger...
Bud said they would have rain delayed it earlier. But no...they let Hamels throw in that slop and waited for TB to score and then suspended it.
Forget even the scoring...you can't stop halfway through an inning.
And look how happy Maddon is.
farg you.
This shtein only happens in Philly. It's always farging something. I have a really bad feeling this is going to cost us the series.
As for Selig I can't blame him, it's not like the shtein was that much worse that the Rays had an advantage when they got the tieing run. Even dry Upton scores on the Pena hit. You have to remember Upton was slowed down big time by the rain. And every weather forecast I saw said it would be a drizzle, not the windy mess we had tonight.
Quote from: PhillyGirl on October 27, 2008, 11:45:40 PM
Forget even the scoring...you can't stop halfway through an inning.
And look how happy Maddon is.
farg you.
Sure they can, they can rain delay it at any point.
Quote from: SD_Eagle on October 27, 2008, 11:47:22 PM
This shtein only happens in Philly. It's always farging something. I have a really bad feeling this is going to cost us the series.
As for Selig I can't blame him, it's not like the shtein was that much worse that the Rays had an advantage when they got the tieing run. Even dry Upton scores on the Pena hit. You have to remember Upton was slowed down big time by the rain. And every weather forecast I saw said it would be a drizzle, not the windy mess we had tonight.
Not the point, SD....you need to either call it after BOTH pitchers have pitched an inning (before Hamels came out or AFTER Kazmir (or whomever) pitched that inning).
Its a clear advantage to the Rays' pitching as they will now finish the 6th inning with a perfect mound/field. Hamels gave UP that run after being out in that rainy shtein on base for 10 minutes and then having to pitch THROUGH that rain in that inning. YOu can't say that isn't a disadvantage. :-\
Phreak, I know they CAN, but they should never do it that way. Ever. Ever. Ever.
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on October 27, 2008, 11:16:01 PM
I hope when they resume this they unleash a beating on Tampa never seen before. Send those shteinbags back to Florida with their hopes crushed.
Oh yeah, this.
btw the Rays already checked out of their hotel and have no place to stay right now :-D
Quote from: PhillyGirl on October 27, 2008, 11:50:51 PM
Phreak, I know they CAN, but they should never do it that way. Ever. Ever. Ever.
Which is why when it became apparent by watching the field conditions, by watching Rollins struggle to catch balls, by looking at puddles and by any sane person looking at the radar should have been stopped way before the 6th.
Phreak, I agree.
The Rays do not have a hotel. They checked out. Now they have to stay in Wilmington Delaware.
:-D
Quote from: BigEd76 on October 27, 2008, 11:53:42 PM
btw the Rays already checked out of their hotel and have no place to stay right now :-D
awesome.. i hope they get blackballed to the worst piece of shtein hole the city has to offer.
Per McCarthy (and ESPNews) Manuel will not address the media.
The players and Manuel are not talking and they are all highly pissed off.
GOOD GOOD GOOD!
I hope they come out and ass rape these pansies
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on October 27, 2008, 11:56:50 PM
The Rays do not have a hotel. They checked out. Now they have to stay in Wilmington Delaware.
:-D
I'm sure MLB will accommodate them better than anyone ever. ::)
Quote from: PhillyGirl on October 27, 2008, 11:58:27 PM
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on October 27, 2008, 11:56:50 PM
The Rays do not have a hotel. They checked out. Now they have to stay in Wilmington Delaware.
:-D
I'm sure MLB will accommodate them better than anyone ever. ::)
i hope they get a nice welcome into town. Im farging pissed off, Selig goes and admits that he just wanted them to win it or tie it
What the farg. Seriously. You thought you've seen it all...
Well now the parade will be on Thursday if we win on Tuesday, Friday if we win on Wednesday. If it extends beyond that, I'd have to imagine things would be pushed back to Monday.
Romero came out to talk to Leslie....basically said it is what it is and the bullpen has to treat it like any other 6th-inning game now
Wild Thing on CSN screaming that it should be protested by Gillick to have the inning started at the top of the 6th so they can be on even ground without Hamels having to pitch in that pig sty.
He's on to something, but I doubt Butt Selig will do that
From what I could figure from the rules, here were their options:
1) end the game before the 5th, and screw the Phillies out of a 2 run lead (they would have to start over)
2) end the game after the 5th, and the Phillies win the series on a technicality
3) keep playing in the muck
4) end the game with a tie, and resume play from where it left off.
There is no such thing as "delay" in the rules. The problem is that they would have to finish the game before the scheduled start of the last game, or it would be "called" (Phils win). The real mess is that if they don't finish this game before the start of game 7, the game is called a tie, and they play it over from the start.
Obviously the Phils were screwed regardless, but do you really want 20 years of "well, they didn't really win it"?
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on October 27, 2008, 11:58:16 PM
Per McCarthy (and ESPNews) Manuel will not address the media.
The players and Manuel are not talking and they are all highly pissed off.
GOOD GOOD GOOD!
I hope they come out and ass rape these pansies
And now horrible singer Peter Gammons rips the Phils for not talking and says how the Rays are not complaining.
Wellll...no shtein, Peter. I wonder why?!?!
Go have another aneurysm.
i'm just farging sick right now.
Quote from: Cerevant on October 28, 2008, 12:03:36 AM
From what I could figure from the rules, here were their options:
1) end the game before the 5th, and screw the Phillies out of a 2 run lead (they would have to start over)
2) end the game after the 5th, and the Phillies win the series on a technicality
3) keep playing in the muck
4) end the game with a tie, and resume play from where it left off.
There is no such thing as "delay" in the rules. The problem is that they would have to finish the game before the scheduled start of the last game, or it would be "called" (Phils win). The real mess is that if they don't finish this game before the start of game 7, the game is called a tie, and they play it over from the start.
Obviously the Phils were screwed regardless, but do you really want 20 years of "well, they didn't really win it"?
They could have ended the game BEFORE the Rays tied it and resumed play where it left off. They didn't have to wait until midway through the 6th.
Quote from: Cerevant on October 28, 2008, 12:03:36 AM
From what I could figure from the rules, here were their options:
1) end the game before the 5th, and screw the Phillies out of a 2 run lead (they would have to start over)
2) end the game after the 5th, and the Phillies win the series on a technicality
3) keep playing in the muck
4) end the game with a tie, and resume play from where it left off.
There is no such thing as "delay" in the rules. The problem is that they would have to finish the game before the scheduled start of the last game, or it would be "called" (Phils win). The real mess is that if they don't finish this game before the start of game 7, the game is called a tie, and they play it over from the start.
Obviously the Phils were screwed regardless, but do you really want 20 years of "well, they didn't really win it"?
Selig said they would have called a rain delay. Those rules do not apply. If the Rays had not scored, they would have rain delayed it until whenever appropriate.
So they could have called a delay in the 5th and resume without consequence
I saw Romero talking. Wtf is Gammons talking about?
Quote from: PhillyGirl on October 27, 2008, 11:50:23 PM
Quote from: SD_Eagle on October 27, 2008, 11:47:22 PM
This shtein only happens in Philly. It's always farging something. I have a really bad feeling this is going to cost us the series.
As for Selig I can't blame him, it's not like the shtein was that much worse that the Rays had an advantage when they got the tieing run. Even dry Upton scores on the Pena hit. You have to remember Upton was slowed down big time by the rain. And every weather forecast I saw said it would be a drizzle, not the windy mess we had tonight.
Not the point, SD....you need to either call it after BOTH pitchers have pitched an inning (before Hamels came out or AFTER Kazmir (or whomever) pitched that inning).
Its a clear advantage to the Rays' pitching as they will now finish the 6th inning with a perfect mound/field. Hamels gave UP that run after being out in that rainy shtein on base for 10 minutes and then having to pitch THROUGH that rain in that inning. YOu can't say that isn't a disadvantage. :-\
The Rays pitchers had to pitch through the same crap, it's not like it got that much worse in one inning...they were scraping mud off Kazmir's cleats in the 4th and that shtein was on there pretty thick.
Look, I'm as pissed as anyone but I don't think this is some grand conspiracy by Selig. Lets face it, God is not a Phils fan. In fact, I'm pretty sure he/she hates us.
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2 AM forecast. let's go!
Quote from: SD_Eagle on October 28, 2008, 12:06:34 AM
Quote from: PhillyGirl on October 27, 2008, 11:50:23 PM
Quote from: SD_Eagle on October 27, 2008, 11:47:22 PM
This shtein only happens in Philly. It's always farging something. I have a really bad feeling this is going to cost us the series.
As for Selig I can't blame him, it's not like the shtein was that much worse that the Rays had an advantage when they got the tieing run. Even dry Upton scores on the Pena hit. You have to remember Upton was slowed down big time by the rain. And every weather forecast I saw said it would be a drizzle, not the windy mess we had tonight.
Not the point, SD....you need to either call it after BOTH pitchers have pitched an inning (before Hamels came out or AFTER Kazmir (or whomever) pitched that inning).
Its a clear advantage to the Rays' pitching as they will now finish the 6th inning with a perfect mound/field. Hamels gave UP that run after being out in that rainy shtein on base for 10 minutes and then having to pitch THROUGH that rain in that inning. YOu can't say that isn't a disadvantage. :-\
The Rays pitchers had to pitch through the same crap, it's not like it got that much worse in one inning...they were scraping mud off Kazmir's cleats in the 4th and that shtein was on there pretty thick.
Look, I'm as pissed as anyone but I don't think this is some grand conspiracy by Selig. Lets face it, God is not a Phils fan. In fact, I'm pretty sure he/she hates us.
Then finish out the inning! Don't call it midway through!
Quote from: Don Ho on October 28, 2008, 12:06:47 AM
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2 AM forecast. let's go!
wait that's Hawaii.
they did call for light rain tonight but where did this shtein come from? Kruk mentioned snow was in the forecast for tomorrow?
The field was unplayable at that point, it's not like Upton had an advantage by stealing the base in the rain or scoring from second. Hamels was just fine for the first two batters and had Pena down but gave up a hit. Stop blaming the weather.
Quote from: PhillyGirl on October 28, 2008, 12:05:53 AM
I saw Romero talking. Wtf is Gammons talking about?
Charlie and players will not come out to the podium. And Romero was the only one to say something I think to local media.
Quote from: PhillyGirl on October 28, 2008, 12:07:32 AM
[Then finish out the inning! Don't call it midway through!
yes, yes, yes. I always thought that was the rule. If they knew it wasn't going to improve why did these pricks start the sixth?
Cole Hamels talking to CSN now too.
Suck it Gammons.
just saw Pena on ESPN News and he said they were cluelesss as to what the hell was going on. no rules were ever explained to them.
Did Hamels really say "I dont want to be the next Wild Thing" when being interviewed?
Phils MB said Barkann was pissed about it, but Mitch took it in stride and Cole was joking.
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on October 28, 2008, 12:18:57 AM
Did Hamels really say "I dont want to be the next Wild Thing" when being interviewed?
Phils MB said Barkann was pissed about it, but Mitch took it in stride and Cole was joking.
good time for jokes Cole.
Quote from: PhillyGirl on October 28, 2008, 12:05:28 AM
They could have ended the game BEFORE the Rays tied it and resumed play where it left off. They didn't have to wait until midway through the 6th.
The problem is that if they couldn't find a time to finish the game before game 7, it would be called and the Phils win. I'm guessing with rain in the forecast the next two days, they didn't want to risk it.
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on October 28, 2008, 12:05:44 AM
Selig said they would have called a rain delay. Those rules do not apply. If the Rays had not scored, they would have rain delayed it until whenever appropriate.
So they could have called a delay in the 5th and resume without consequence
Delay doesn't exist in the rules. Regardless, assuming there is a loophole, I would think that makes the situation worse: they have to finish before the next game started, instead of game 7. (How can you start a new game while there is a game between the two teams in progress?)
Mitch was pissed, Ricky Bo almost cursed.
Everyone at the jawn I was at was laughin at Selig. What a tool.
Again...it would not have been called. They would have waited in Philly "until Thanksgiving" according to Butt.
SO they wait to play it and finish game 5, then go to Tampa.
There have been long delays before. The 1989 Series...I think 1972 was pushed back 3 days because of rain.
I didn't get to see that part of the presser, but it doesn't seem to go with the rules.
As for the past - the rules governing weather / suspension / etc. changed in the last two years.
For the record (http://mlb.mlb.com/mlb/official_info/official_rules/start_end_4.jsp)
Quote (4) Any suspended game not completed prior to the last scheduled game between the two teams during the championship season shall become a called game. If such game becomes a called game and
(i) has progressed far enough to become a regulation game, and one team is ahead, the team that is ahead shall be declared the winner;
(ii) has progressed far enough to become a regulation game, and the score is tied, the game shall be declared a "tie game." A tie game is to be replayed in its entirety, unless the league president determines that playing the rescheduled game is not necessary to affect the league championship; or
(iii)has not progressed far enough to become a regulation game, the game shall be declared "No Game." In such case, the game is to be replayed in its entirety, unless the league president determines that playing the rescheduled game is not necessary to affect the league championship.
"Rain Delay" in the index references 3.10 (c):
QuoteThe umpire-in-chief shall be the sole judge as to whether and when play shall be suspended during a game because of unsuitable weather conditions or the unfit condition of the playing field; as to whether and when the play shall be resumed after such suspension; and as to whether and when a game shall be terminated after such suspension. He shall not call the game until at least thirty minutes after he has suspended play. He may continue the suspension as long as he believes there is any chance to resume play.
Note the use of the term "suspended". I don't think this gives an out.
Yes, but the rulebook would have been overridden by Selig.
It would have been rain delayed and resumed when able to be resumed.
So they should have done it way earlier.
Selig's a dictator and can do whatever he wants. He said so.
Quoting rules to him is like quoting the Constitution to congressmen.
Well, like I said - I missed that part of the presser. Given the fact that they seemed to be waiting for the game to tie to suspend play, it would seem logical that they were worried about the consequences of stopping it earlier.
Hopefully Mein Fuhrer doesn't try to squeeze the game in tomorrow night when it is obvious the conditions won't be good enough again tomorrow either. You don't want a repeat of tonight's travesty. Just wait until the damn weather is clear.
Quote from: Cerevant on October 28, 2008, 12:44:11 AM
Well, like I said - I missed that part of the presser. Given the fact that they seemed to be waiting for the game to tie to suspend play, it would seem logical that they were worried about the consequences of stopping it earlier.
Just made it easier for them to save face. Plus they want the Rays to win so the Series goes on longer and attracts more viewers.
So here's the deal. I went out with my 14 year old and his friend just to be there for the party. Around the 4th inning those 2 were asking people who were leaving for their stubs thinking they could get in. Of course they couldn't. They threw the stubs away. But as we were driving home after the reain-out it suddenly hit me......those stubs would have been usable when they finish the game!
I'm still farging pissed.
Quote
The angriest place on earth
October 28, 2008 • 12:22 am
By Michael Radano
PHILADELPHIA - Proof that major league baseball is run by a bunch of buffoons came at midnight when the suspended game notes were handed out.
At the bottom of the sheet, the powers that be maybe thought it was cute or even pithy to include Koppett's Law.
"Whatever creates the greatest inconvenience for the largest number of people is guaranteed to happen."
Yeah, that's what the suspension of Game 5 was, inconvenient.
Inconvenience was why the Phillies clubhouse all but boiled over after the game. Inconvenience was why what began as a day not of hope, but of destiny quickly dissipated into disgust and bursts of anger directed at the television where Commissioner Bud Selig held a press conference on why Game 5, tied at 2-2, was suspended in the middle of the sixth inning.
"That (expletive deleted) guy," one pitcher said as he saw commissioner Bud Selig before walking out the back door of the clubhouse. "I wouldn't let him supervise one of my (bowel movements). He has no clue. Not one (expletive deleted) clue."
"(Expletive deleted)," one position player said in the direction of one television pausing only for a moment before leaving. "He's a moron. How stupid can one person be?"
Well, pretty stupid if this night was any indication.
Compounding matters, several national media members couldn't figure out why the players were so upset? The game was still tied and really how could it continued to be played.
Well:
1. Hamels is now done. He won't be available to finish this game despite a low pitch count. It's a stretch to believe that he will be ready for Game 7 even if this game resumes on Wednesday. That means three days of rest and we know the history on that one.
2. The Phillies held a 2-1 lead heading into the sixth as the rain continued to fall and rivers formed throughout the infield. The grounds crew - already working beyond the call of duty - did their best but as the inning wore on the field worsened. B.J. Upton hit an infield single that Jimmy Rollins had in the tip of his glove. Normal conditions, inning over. In these, Upton reached base, stole second and then scored on a flare into left field.
3. Tampa can start David Price tomorrow or whenever this game resumes. The Phillies have already indicated they will begin with their bullpen. that favors the Rays as Price can go multiple innings.
4. The emotions of the crowd will be diminished and it will be interesting to see how many fans can and will show up.
5. If this series goes back to Tampa, James Shields and Matt Garza will get the starts and they have been very good at home this year.
"I feel really bad for Cole," catcher Carlos Ruiz said. "He was pitching well even though the ball was tough to grip. I don;t know why we started that inning. I don't understand this at all."
He's far from alone.
:boom :boom :boom
I don't know if I can sleep tonight after all this bull shtein.
Bring on Mr. Price. He can kiss my ass.
Jayson Stark (http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/playoffs2008/columns/story?columnist=stark_jayson&id=3668201). The national media is missing out on the story of how pissed the Phillies and their fans are, but Stark's a Phillies fan and he gets it right.
QuoteAnd here's what he also knows: The Phillies had better go on to win this World Series. Because if they don't, the always-magnanimous residents of Philadelphia aren't going to blame Charlie Manuel, the next three losing pitchers or good old Mother Nature.
They're going to blame him, Bud Selig.
So if the commish has always wanted to, say, tour Independence Hall, there may be no better time than the last Tuesday in October.
today would suck a lot less if there were actually a good chance they could play tonight
just heard MLB wont let Cole pitch anymore, i guess if it goes 7 he could go
I've had a sickening feeling all night that lastnight probably cost us a title. I hope Selig dies:
QuotePhil Sheridan: Tainted by television
By Phil Sheridan
Inquirer Sports Columnist
Game 5 of the World Series became a farce the moment Jimmy Rollins - one of the finest defensive shortstops of his generation - dropped that zigging, zagging pop-up in the fifth inning.
This doesn't happen to Rollins, an all-star and the reigning National League MVP, in playable baseball conditions.
"When you look up into the rain, it's pretty hard to catch a ball," Phillies starter Cole Hamels said.
In April or May, in June or July, in August or September, the umpires would have stopped play at that moment - if they hadn't already. Pop-ups that drop toward unseeing eyes can seriously injure a player. It was pouring rain. Pools of water were forming in front of the infielders. Pitchers were cleaning their spikes after every pitch.
In October, the game went on. And Major League Baseball should be ashamed for allowing its most important game of the year to deteriorate into an embarrassing mess because of slavish obedience to its pimp, the Fox Television Network.
Simply put, Game 5 is hopelessly tainted by what transpired between the time the game should have been called and the middle of the sixth inning, when it was finally suspended.
Whatever happens when play resumes, whether the Phillies celebrate their first World Series championship or the Rays force a Game 6 in Florida, MLB can't justify its decision or its decision-making process.
This night was different from Saturday, when a rain delay caused Game 3 to begin 91 minutes late, at about 10 p.m. That game ended at nearly 2 a.m., but it was played fairly and under perfectly acceptable conditions.
Those things are going to happen in outdoor ballparks in the Northeast in late October. It rained all day Saturday, and the best time to play the game was, in fact, when it was played.
The first problem here is TV's insistence on scheduling these games for 8:30 p.m. or even later. There are plenty of lovely autumn afternoons - and yesterday was one of them - that give way to cold and blustery evenings. When baseball, like other sports, sold its soul to the networks and their craven need for prime-time sports programming, it created a situation where young fans couldn't stay up to watch the most important games of the year.
There is no mechanism for the baseball commissioner, Bud Selig, to look at the weather reports, discern that a night game is doomed, and shift the start time to late afternoon.
That would inconvenience fans, but so does suspending the game for a day. That would be tough on players, but so does suspending the game for a day.
If the fans and players were the priorities, last night's game would have been stopped much sooner. They aren't. Television is, and television won't allow its prime-time program to be moved to 5 p.m.
Rollins, rain pouring into his face, dropped that pop-up in the top of the fifth. The play was rather nastily ruled an error, as if it had occurred in acceptable conditions. Hamels got out of that inning without allowing a run. The Phillies led, 2-1, in the middle of the fifth.
At that moment, a regular-season game would become official. A rainout would mean the game was over, with the Phillies winning.
"This is not a way to end a World Series," Selig said. "I would not allow a World Series to end this way."
Selig is right on that point. The problem is, it appears MLB allowed play to continue in unplayable conditions because the Phillies had a lead. It seems like more than a coincidence that play was suspended after the top of the sixth, when the Rays tied the game on a base hit by Carlos Pena.
That run was scored by B.J. Upton, who hit a two-out grounder up the middle. Rollins ranged to his left, caught the ball deep in the hole and turned to fire a throw to first. The ball slipped out of his hand and Upton was safe.
Now Upton is fast. It may well be that Rollins wouldn't have been able to get him. But it's also impossible to know whether the slick infield slowed Rollins down as well as caused him to lose his grip on the ball. If he throws Upton out, the inning is over.
Upton scored from second on Pena's single to left. Pat Burrell's throw was on target but bounced in the muck in front of home plate. Would a cleaner bounce have allowed Carlos Ruiz to get the ball sooner?
Maybe these are long shots. The point is, no one knows. What we do know is that this game was being played in unacceptable conditions. That's not my opinion. It's Selig's, too. He ordered the game suspended just moments later.
"The weather, it kept changing," Selig said.
Well, yes, sir. We call that Earth.
The tie made suspending the game a lot easier and more convenient. It sure looks as if Major League Baseball let an unplayable game play on long enough to make things easier.
And that's just shameful.
as usual stark nails it
http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/playoffs2008/columns/story?columnist=stark_jayson&id=3668201
QuoteAsked when HE would have stopped this game, Rays reliever Trever Miller replied: "I would have said no later than the fourth inning. As soon as Jimmy Rollins had trouble with that fly ball (Rocco Baldelli's uncaught popup leading off the top of the fifth), right then and there that would have told everyone that conditions were not conducive to playing good baseball.
Damn right. The problem with that is it wouldn't have been an official game and you still lose a Hamels start.
The game should have never been played in the first place, but from everything I saw it was only supposed to be light rain.
I'm pretty sure we're farged now. I just knew some bullshtein like this was gonna happen. I just want to go into a coma and wake me up when it's all over.
Im so pissed off still, farging bullshtein, it felt like Betteman was setting this plan up. Weather looks really bad tonight, 20-25mph winds, and rain/snow. They probably wont play until Wednesday
http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/news?slug=jp-wssuspendedgamefive102708&prov=yhoo&type=lgns
QuoteBaseballs crown event is beyond repair
By Jeff Passan, Yahoo! Sports
4 hours, 32 minutes ago
PHILADELPHIA This World Series is unsalvageable. It is a disaster borne of people who think cowbells and haircuts make them fans, owners who are so greedy that they accept late-October baseball and late-evening start times, and a commissioner who unilaterally changes a rule while hes carrying the book in his left hand.
Game 5 is suspended. Rain washed through Citizens Bank Park from the beginning of the Philadelphia Phillies potential championship clincher to the sixth inning, when the Tampa Bay Rays tied the score 2-2. No one knows when the game will resume. Could be tonight. May well be Wednesday night. Or even later. It is on Mother Nature, which is a good thing, because if it were up to the baseball gods, they would smite the series before it could continue any longer.
Its awful, embarrassing even, that the country became so indifferent to what once was the most popular championship series in sports. Even worse, Major League Baseball, fat and happy with its coffers growing and ticket sales booming, watched idly as the number of people viewing its championship series dwindled to a record low in Game 3.
That, of course, was the night that MLB decided to begin a game after 10 p.m., rain to blame again. The skies cleared for the rest of the evening. The conditions were fine for playing. Its just that the entire country was in its REM cycle, baseball hardly a competitor for sleep.
Such is the norm, too, with the 8:30 p.m. start times now typical for World Series games and the remainder of the postponement, which will begin at 8 p.m. Thank MLB again for that. It got into bed with Fox for a long-term $3 billion deal. Fox requested a later first pitch. MLB obliged. The guys in suits win. The kids with hats and genuine interest in the game, and not the green it generates, lose.
And all of these elements poison what should be the most glorious time for the best sport. Nothing beats a great World Series. Not a classic Super Bowl. Not a fantastic Final Four. Not a seven-game NBA Finals. When two teams get together, no matter the size of the market or depth of the history, and play a to-the-max series with the requisite drama that accompanies a great matchup, it is magic. Baseball doesnt need the Yankees or Red Sox. Minnesota and Atlanta did just fine in 1991.
Instead, we are talking about weathermen.
Seriously, in the 20 minutes commissioner Bud Selig addressed postponing Game 5, he spent as much time talking about weather forecasters as he did the fact that he was prepared, on the fly, to change a well-hewn rule. While Selig was interested in informing the public that the three weather services MLB contacted said the rain would abate, everyone wondered how he planned to handle the situation had Carlos Pena not driven in B.J. Upton in the sixth inning with the Rays tying run.
Selig said he discussed such a scenario before the game with general managers Pat Gillick of the Phillies and Andrew Friedman of the Rays, allegedly telling them the rule stating that a game is complete after 4½ innings did not apply.
Its not a way to end a World Series, Selig said. And I think theres enough, and I have enough authority here, frankly, so that I think Im not only on solid ground, Im on very solid ground.
It would have been the right call, of course, though it sets a dangerous precedent just how far does the commissioners in-the-best-interests-of-baseball clause go? and was made even shadier by the fact that nobody but the brass seemed to know. Fans were clueless, as were the players, who wanted no part of it.
I wouldnt pride myself in being called a world champion on a called game, Phillies starter Cole Hamels said, following an even more damning statement: That truly would have been the worst World Series ever.
Would have?
OK, so were not there yet. Game 3, even with its sparse viewing audience, teemed with intrigue. Game 4 was a Phillies home run barrage, including the first from a pitcher in nearly 35 years. The weather gave Game 5 a unique twist, players tromping around in puddles of water and running the bases and the field with extreme caution as wind whipped and sheets of rain careened sideways into their eyes.
Games 1 and 2 well, those were held inside a big warehouse outfitted with seats, a massive neon orange, a tank of cownose rays, four catwalks, a drunk pro wrestler, artificial turf, mullets and a group of people that thinks ringing cowbells is awesome and wearing bright blue Mohawks is socially acceptable.
Rays fever, unfortunately, comes no warmer than 98.6 degrees. Scalpers there are eating thousands of dollars because the demand for tickets is so flabby. Florida is a football state, and the inroads to carve out a fan base in the Tampa area will take decades. While championship T-shirts in Philadelphia already are deep on back order, there will be plenty available should the Rays come back and win the series.
And that, actually, is the only thing that can turn this debacle around and help MLB avoid it being the Rain Series or the Delay Series or the Atrociously Umpired Series or the Series No One Cared About. The questions crossing everyones mind Monday night were how to keep weather from so adversely affecting the biggest games of the year. Shorten the regular season? No chance the owners would lose the revenue. Do it by playing doubleheaders every other Saturday, shaving nearly two weeks from the season? Again, revenue would lag, and the players union almost certainly would say no. Schedule a neutral-site World Series? No thanks.
Point is, none of this has anything to do with the games, which should be the focal point in October. As long as MLB remains stubborn about the fact that starting the postseason earlier wouldnt help with its weather issues a flimsy claim at best this is all moot.
Sometimes, nothing can save baseball from itself. Not even global warming.
So all we can do is sit back and get acquainted with the Doppler. There is supposed to be rain this morning. And then more this afternoon. And
you get the point. This is a championship held hostage by its elements, a sad and somewhat fitting occurrence with the World Series That Cant Get It Right.
Will you fargheads shut up with the "we're farged" stuff? Would it have been nice and tidy for Hamels to dominate and end the series last night? Hell yes. Are the Phillies "farged?" No.
FACT: David Price is the only truly dominant pitcher on the Rays staff, but the Phillies have the offense to score (or not score) on any pitcher at any given time.
FACT: Every member of the Phillies bullpen is available for the last 9 outs of game 5.
FACT: While Pena and Longoria have woken up a bit, everyone in the Phils lineup has also tasted some success (except maybe Burrell) and can get a big hit at any time.
FACT: This is our farging year, and no upstart team of jackasses, no dickbag commissioner, no rookie left hander, no cold and rainy weather, and no amount of umpire fargups is going to stop the Phillies.
I can't guarantee a win in game 5, but I can guarantee a Phillies World Series win. Any of you iceholes want to bet against the Phils? Bring it.
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In short, I'm offering to bet cheddar on the Phillies winning this World Series.
Would you like to cake me off?
farg this
They'll win, I am with FF on that.
But its the whole point of how this happened. It just pisses me off and possibly robbed them of winning it all IN Philadelphia.
It robbed them of having Hamels go 7 or 8, finishing off with Lidge, and winning with a nice bow on top.
It has far from robbed them of winning it at home, though. Game 5 is a toss-up at worst.
Quote from: PhillyGirl on October 28, 2008, 09:51:28 AM
They'll win, I am with FF on that.
But its the whole point of how this happened. It just pisses me off and possibly robbed them of winning it all IN Philadelphia.
It completely sucks, but I hope this team is pissed enough to go out and wreck shop on Price and finish this shtein
Stark nailed it for sure.
I have a pit in my stomach. There is nothing I want more than to see the Phillies turn that anger into some motivation to come out and pound the Anointed One, David Price, into mush.
Butt Selig has made this a circus. Last night was a joke. A goddamn joke. And the Rays get a breath of life. They get some momentum because they tied it and Pena and Longoria were hitting.
Hamels could not throw a curve or his change.
Rollins could not get to balls.
Ridiculous.
both teams had to play in it...cant say rollins couldnt get to balls but the tampa players could?...or kazmir was able to pitch in it but hamels was not?
the "only" mistake made was the pathetic and cowardly decision to end the game in the middle of an inning because bud got the tie he wanted...you have to let the phillies hit in the bottom of the 6th....one of the worst decisions of all time
Quote from: ice grillin you on October 28, 2008, 10:08:10 AM
both teams had to play in it...cant say rollins couldnt get to balls but the tampa players could?...or kazmir was able to pitch in it but hamels was not?
the "only" mistake made was the pathetic and cowardly decision to end the game in the middle of an inning because bud got the tie he wanted...you have to let the phillies hit in the bottom of the 6th....one of the worst decisions of all time
I know both had to play in it....and honestly I was expecting Upton to slip coming around 3rd or when setaling because he has such a long stride. Kazmir was struggling obviously.
It should not have been played or at the very least it should have been called a rain delayed game as soon as Rollins missed the pop up and when Pena struggled to catch the pop up where Tschida did not call the INF fly because of the conditions.
Quote from: ice grillin you on October 28, 2008, 10:08:10 AM
both teams had to play in it...cant say rollins couldnt get to balls but the tampa players could?...or kazmir was able to pitch in it but hamels was not?
the "only" mistake made was the pathetic and cowardly decision to end the game in the middle of an inning because bud got the tie he wanted...you have to let the phillies hit in the bottom of the 6th....one of the worst decisions of all time
Agreed, but that last part is what pissed me off so much. Why did Hamels have to pitch that extra half inning in that shtein? Score should be 2-1 after 5 right now...and delayed as they are already doing.
http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/rumors/post/Rays-Balfour-Maybe-it-s-just-fate-?urn=mlb,117872
QuoteRays Balfour: 'Maybe it's just fate'
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The Philadelphia Phillies will have a new pitcher on the mound when Game 5 of the World Series resumes Tuesday night. But Tampa Bay Rays pitching coach Jim Hickey said that he does expect Grant Balfour to take the mound again once the game resumes.
Balfour explained that it would be just like a regular relief appearance to him. "I'll just warm up like I normally would in a game," he said. "I might even have them call down there on the phone and tell me to get up."
Pitching considerations and umpiring decisions aside, the bottom line for the Rays was that they were still alive in this World Series.
"Maybe it's just fate," Balfour said. "It happened for a good reason
What a nightmare of a night...everyone except Bud Selig and John Bolaris knew it was going to rain, and rain hard all night after the 2nd inning baseball is run by idiots.
Oh...and can we stop with this it's "unfair they played the top of the 6th" bullshtein? I have never once seen a game where they played in bad weather where they said "Well lets let the other team bat again before they called it." Stop whining. Selig is an idiot...the game should have been moved up from the start as of 3 pm yesterday, and shorten the commercials. but it wasnt, you play the hand you're dealt. The Phils have 4 at bats left, and the rays 3...and farg David Price, they scored 2 runs off him in game 2...they'll do it again.
One good thing came of this...well 8 good things. I was able to get 8 additional ticket stubs for whenever they resume this because of the moron fans who just tossed them. So now pretty much my entire family and close friends will all be able to go...
Although i have a feeling that the phils are going to win this thing with about a half empty stadium with all the tickets people stupidly tossed.
Well, the Phillies will just have to score some more farging runs, then.
Quote from: Wingspan on October 28, 2008, 10:17:42 AM
What a nightmare of a night...everyone except Bud Selig and John Bolaris knew it was going to rain, and rain hard all night after the 2nd inning baseball is run by idiots.
Oh...and can we stop with this it's "unfair they played the top of the 6th" bullshtein? I have never once seen a game where they played in bad weather where they said "Well lets let the other team bat again before they called it." Stop whining. Selig is an idiot...the game should have been moved up from the start as of 3 pm yesterday, and shorten the commercials. but it wasnt, you play the hand you're dealt. The Phils have 4 at bats left, and the rays 3...and farg David Price, they scored 2 runs off him in game 2...they'll do it again.
One good thing came of this...well 8 good things. I was able to get 8 additional ticket stubs for whenever they resume this because of the moron fans who just tossed them. So now pretty much my entire family and close friends will all be able to go...
Although i have a feeling that the phils are going to win this thing with about a half empty stadium with all the tickets people stupidly tossed.
The POINT is that it should have NEVER GONE AS FAR AS IT DID. Like you said, the weather was well known to anyone with a TV or computer. It wasn't going to let up once it started, it was only going to get worse. WHY START THAT 6TH INNING?
Fine...you want to play that game...it should never have gotten past the top of the 4th. meaning you would have wasted Hamels entire start because they would have just restarted the game.
Quote from: Wingspan on October 28, 2008, 10:17:42 AM
One good thing came of this...well 8 good things. I was able to get 8 additional ticket stubs for whenever they resume this because of the moron fans who just tossed them. So now pretty much my entire family and close friends will all be able to go...
Although i have a feeling that the phils are going to win this thing with about a half empty stadium with all the tickets people stupidly tossed.
No shtein? Any interest in selling me a stub?
I'm glad you're all so confident they'll still win, I see yet another heartache on the horizon.
Oh, and in other news, farg Grant Balfour and his fate bullshtein. I hope they send him out there for the bottom of the 6th, and Howard or Burrell puts some fate right up the middle off of his dome.
Burrell will hit a walkoff homer in his last at bat in Red Pinstripes.
Quote from: ice grillin you on October 28, 2008, 10:08:10 AM
both teams had to play in it...cant say rollins couldnt get to balls but the tampa players could?...or kazmir was able to pitch in it but hamels was not?
the "only" mistake made was the pathetic and cowardly decision to end the game in the middle of an inning because bud got the tie he wanted...you have to let the phillies hit in the bottom of the 6th....one of the worst decisions of all time
I agree 100%, looking to the start up we get 4 innings (if needed) to hit in good conditions. The Rays get a chance to pitch and field in good conditions for 4 innings. I would feel much better if they would have let us hit and the rays pitch in the bottom of the sixth.
Quote from: SD_Eagle on October 28, 2008, 10:24:21 AM
Quote from: Wingspan on October 28, 2008, 10:17:42 AM
One good thing came of this...well 8 good things. I was able to get 8 additional ticket stubs for whenever they resume this because of the moron fans who just tossed them. So now pretty much my entire family and close friends will all be able to go...
Although i have a feeling that the phils are going to win this thing with about a half empty stadium with all the tickets people stupidly tossed.
No shtein? Any interest in selling me a stub?
I'm glad you're all so confident they'll still win, I see yet another heartache on the horizon.
No sale...they're all spoken for now.
They still have 3 chances to win 1 game.
I'm about 30 minutes from the stadium and it's flurrying outside my pad right now.
QuoteThey still have 3 chances to win 1 game.
Damn right baby, this is our fargin time.
Quote from: SD_Eagle on October 28, 2008, 10:24:21 AM
Quote from: Wingspan on October 28, 2008, 10:17:42 AM
One good thing came of this...well 8 good things. I was able to get 8 additional ticket stubs for whenever they resume this because of the moron fans who just tossed them. So now pretty much my entire family and close friends will all be able to go...
Although i have a feeling that the phils are going to win this thing with about a half empty stadium with all the tickets people stupidly tossed.
No shtein? Any interest in selling me a stub?
I'm glad you're all so confident they'll still win, I see yet another heartache on the horizon.
You really think the Phillies lose 2.5 games in a row now?
Stop.
Quote"When the wind turned around and started coming in from right field is when you started to see where players had trouble catching the ball, and now the game runs the risk of being comical," said umpire Tim Tschida.
yeah, comical
Quote from: Wingspan on October 28, 2008, 10:17:42 AM
Oh...and can we stop with this it's "unfair they played the top of the 6th" bullshtein? I have never once seen a game where they played in bad weather where they said "Well lets let the other team bat again before they called it." Stop whining. Selig is an idiot...the game should have been moved up from the start as of 3 pm yesterday, and shorten the commercials. but it wasnt, you play the hand you're dealt. The Phils have 4 at bats left, and the rays 3...and farg David Price, they scored 2 runs off him in game 2...they'll do it again.
im pretty sure mlb has secretly directed the umps to never ever call a game due to weather that isnt tied anymore....i remember 2 years ago a yanks orioles game that was played in HORRIBLE conditions...worse than last night...that they didnt call until right after the yanks tied the game in the top of the 8th....i remember melvin mora even got ejected for complaining about having to play in it
the bottom line is if you start the 6th you finish the 6th....and i have no doubt in my mind that the game would have continued had tampa not scored in the top of that inning
Same here IGY, a sidebar question would be, if they ended up scoring 2 in the inning, would they have called it so they could bring it back to Tampa and get more TV time?
The simple fact that the Rays got to hit, and the phils didnt is complete bullshtein
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LOL, these fargers are NOT winning a World Series.
GO PHILS.
Quote from: PhillyGirl on October 28, 2008, 10:31:40 AM
Quote from: SD_Eagle on October 28, 2008, 10:24:21 AM
Quote from: Wingspan on October 28, 2008, 10:17:42 AM
One good thing came of this...well 8 good things. I was able to get 8 additional ticket stubs for whenever they resume this because of the moron fans who just tossed them. So now pretty much my entire family and close friends will all be able to go...
Although i have a feeling that the phils are going to win this thing with about a half empty stadium with all the tickets people stupidly tossed.
No shtein? Any interest in selling me a stub?
I'm glad you're all so confident they'll still win, I see yet another heartache on the horizon.
You really think the Phillies lose 2.5 games in a row now?
Stop.
I have a really bad feeling that if this series goes back to Tampa its over for the Phils. Call it a gut reaction
No, I'll just call it a ridiculous and undeserved (for this team) Negadelphian attitude.
These Phillies deserve more credit than that, SD.
It is a gut reaction and the same protectionist attitude I and others have displayed over and over again when things start to go wrong. Considering I'm at the perfect age where I do not remember the last major sports championship at all, my "gut" always wants to play it safe and assume the worst.
But, farg it, man. This team is going to win it all, and you are going to get piss-ass drunk at a parade. It's going to happen. Just learn to accept victory.
I still don't think this goes back to Tampa. The top half of the Phils lineup will still get at least 2 ABs, the Rays only get 3 more ABs with their 6-7-8 batting in the 7th, and everyone in each bullpen is still available....even that nutjob Balfour....
Its snowing hard
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Quote from: BigEd76 on October 28, 2008, 11:18:59 AM
I still don't think this goes back to Tampa. The top half of the Phils lineup will still get at least 2 ABs, the Rays only get 3 more ABs with their 6-7-8 batting in the 7th, and everyone in each bullpen is still available....even that nutjob Balfour....
Who do you think goes out in the 7th for the Phils? I wouldn't mind seeing Madson pitch the 7th and 8th but that probably takes him out of Thursdays game if they lose.
I have never been angrier or more disgusted at a sporting event than I was last night. And honestly, in the 12-plus hours since, I think I've actually gotten more pissed off and depressed.
Selig should be shot in the face for that fiasco. Just an unmitigated disaster all around.
Quote from: SD_Eagle on October 28, 2008, 11:31:31 AMWho do you think goes out in the 7th for the Phils?
Since the game is going to feel like a new one even though it isn't, they'll likely go with a starter/reliever mix....which means Durbin... :-\
per wip a press release is currently being drafted that will announce the cancellation of tonights game
Which will mean Hamels would be available for game 7. (Hamel's did say last night he would go on short rest since he only threw 75 pitches).
I would not be surprised to see myers start game 5.2 tomorrow. Blanton game 6. Hamels/Moyer game 7.
Quote from: ice grillin you on October 28, 2008, 12:03:20 PM
per wip a press release is currently being drafted that will announce the cancellation of tonights game
...and this is why it was so important that the game end in a tie. Yes, Selig could have wielded his executive power like W, but this way he can just point to the rulebook.
If they call the game, it is ruled a tie and game 8 is in Philly (if needed). I bet the Rays would be thrilled with that conclusion...
Quote from: Wingspan on October 28, 2008, 12:06:18 PM
Which will mean Hamels would be available for game 7. (Hamel's did say last night he would go on short rest since he only threw 75 pitches).
I would not be surprised to see myers start game 5.2 tomorrow. Blanton game 6. Hamels/Moyer game 7.
If Hamels said that then I missed it but that's good news.
No on Myers, he blows in the first inning of games.
So, will game 5 now be finished tomorrow? Or will they do something really screwy and play game "6" and "7" (if needed) first, only coming back to Philly to complete game 5 if necessary?
Quote from: Wingspan on October 28, 2008, 12:06:18 PM
Which will mean Hamels would be available for game 7. (Hamel's did say last night he would go on short rest since he only threw 75 pitches).
I would not be surprised to see myers start game 5.2 tomorrow. Blanton game 6. Hamels/Moyer game 7.
Where did you see Hamels say that Wing? I'd love to hear that I just haven't seen it anywhere.
Quote from: Eagles_Legendz on October 28, 2008, 12:35:33 PM
Quote from: Wingspan on October 28, 2008, 12:06:18 PM
Which will mean Hamels would be available for game 7. (Hamel's did say last night he would go on short rest since he only threw 75 pitches).
I would not be surprised to see myers start game 5.2 tomorrow. Blanton game 6. Hamels/Moyer game 7.
Where did you see Hamels say that Wing? I'd love to hear that I just haven't seen it anywhere.
the first article on the phillies website (http://philadelphia.phillies.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20081027&content_id=3649717&vkey=news_phi&fext=.jsp&c_id=phi)
QuoteMyers is accustomed to relieving; he served as the team's closer for much of last season. Should he be called upon to pitch Wednesday -- assuming the teams can't play Tuesday -- Moyer could pitch Thursday on regular rest in Game 6. Hamels also could return for a potential Game 7, though he would be on three days' rest.
Hamels said he would be willing to do that, especially because he threw only 75 pitches.
Quote from: Wingspan on October 28, 2008, 12:42:32 PM
Quote from: Eagles_Legendz on October 28, 2008, 12:35:33 PM
Quote from: Wingspan on October 28, 2008, 12:06:18 PM
Which will mean Hamels would be available for game 7. (Hamel's did say last night he would go on short rest since he only threw 75 pitches).
I would not be surprised to see myers start game 5.2 tomorrow. Blanton game 6. Hamels/Moyer game 7.
Where did you see Hamels say that Wing? I'd love to hear that I just haven't seen it anywhere.
the first article on the phillies website (http://philadelphia.phillies.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20081027&content_id=3649717&vkey=news_phi&fext=.jsp&c_id=phi)
QuoteMyers is accustomed to relieving; he served as the team's closer for much of last season. Should he be called upon to pitch Wednesday -- assuming the teams can't play Tuesday -- Moyer could pitch Thursday on regular rest in Game 6. Hamels also could return for a potential Game 7, though he would be on three days' rest.
Hamels said he would be willing to do that, especially because he threw only 75 pitches.
Lets hope it doesn't get that far but that's great news.
Wait, they're also saying Myers could pitch in game 5 redux AND start game 6?
Even better, from MLB.com:
QuoteIf Game 5 resumes on Wednesday or later in the week in Philadelphia, the games in St. Petersburg would need to be moved back and a travel day might be utilized.
DuPuy said after reading the current weather reports that "it doesn't look good" for playing on Tuesday night.
So, they might move the rest of game 5 to tomorrow, use Thursday as a travel day, and then play Friday and Saturday, if needed, in Florida.
That would make Hamels a stone cold lock for game 7 if the Rays got lucky enough to force one.
http://philadelphia.phillies.mlb.com/news/press_releases/press_release.jsp?ymd=20081028&content_id=3650889&vkey=pr_mlb&fext=.jsp&c_id=mlb (http://philadelphia.phillies.mlb.com/news/press_releases/press_release.jsp?ymd=20081028&content_id=3650889&vkey=pr_mlb&fext=.jsp&c_id=mlb)
QuotePHILADELPHIA - Game Five of the 2008 World Series will not resume tonight due to inclement weather. Game Five is now tentatively scheduled to resume on Wednesday evening at 8:37 p.m. (ET), weather permitting.
Commissioner Allan H. (Bud) Selig said: "While obviously we want to finish Game Five as soon as possible, the forecast for today does not allow for us to continue the game this evening. We are closely monitoring tomorrow's forecast and will continue to monitor the weather on an hourly basis. We will advise fans as soon as we are able to make any final decisions with respect to tomorrow's schedule."
at this rate cole can go back in and resume where he left off.
I hope Selig dies screaming.
Quote from: Rome on October 28, 2008, 01:31:27 PM
I hope Selig dies screaming.
tonight
Quote from: L-ong-B-each-I-ggle on October 28, 2008, 01:27:58 PM
at this rate cole can go back in and resume where he left off.
I'm a daydream believer too.
Also - I don't know how anyone can be excited about the prospect of Myers going into a game situation like he'd be facing tomorrow. His opening innings are usually the rockiest no matter what the situation and considering what's on the line - I don't know.
The prospect scares me more than a little.
Mike Victorino, Shane's dad on WIP now.
Quote from: FastFreddie on October 28, 2008, 01:45:01 PM
Quote from: Don Ho on October 28, 2008, 01:43:03 PM
Mike Victorino, Shane's dad on WIP now.
and then?
he confessed to the brutal murder and dismemberment of bud selig. pieces can be picked up at town hall.
Quote from: FastFreddie on October 28, 2008, 01:45:01 PM
Quote from: Don Ho on October 28, 2008, 01:43:03 PM
Mike Victorino, Shane's dad on WIP now.
and then?
he is sending Vai Sikahema over to husk Selig like a rotting coconut.
Mike Victorino is comical. He's a councilman on Maui and is a very cool dude.
They should just put Cole in and go for the damn win...
Selig can suck it...
If they are pretty sure that Cole would be available to start a game 7, it would be borderline retarded to put him back in to finish game 5. They can get 9 outs without him.
Quote from: FastFreddie on October 28, 2008, 02:54:14 PM
If they are pretty sure that Cole would be available to start a game 7, it would be borderline retarded to put him back in to finish game 5. They can get 9 outs without him.
Exactly.
I'm not sure why so many people are so worried about this. They need 9 outs with the best bullpen in baseball?
they need nine outs and one run
Im more worried about the one run
definitely....why is everyone acting like they have the lead?
I'm wondering the same thing not to mention they hadn't scored a run since the 1st.
They have a 2 game lead and forcing elimination in the world series. I think it's fairly safe to assume that they can muster out at least 1 more run in the next 4 innings.
Quote from: Wingspan on October 28, 2008, 03:22:49 PM
They have a 2 game lead and forcing elimination in the world series. I think it's fairly safe to assume that they can muster out at least 1 more run in the next 4 innings.
like they did with the bases loaded how many times.
Quote from: ice grillin you on October 28, 2008, 03:07:32 PM
definitely....why is everyone acting like they have the lead?
I'm not. But Hamels is not going to help them get another run, and he'd be much more valuable pitching game 7 on nearly full rest than he would trying to pitch an inning or two on 2 days rest.
of course they can score a run tomorrow...but lets not act like they dont have to
Quote from: Seabiscuit36 on October 28, 2008, 03:27:34 PM
Quote from: Wingspan on October 28, 2008, 03:22:49 PM
They have a 2 game lead and forcing elimination in the world series. I think it's fairly safe to assume that they can muster out at least 1 more run in the next 4 innings.
like they did with the bases loaded how many times.
Fine, you are correct.
Oh woe is us.
What should have been a perfect night and a perfect Philly moment was raped by Gawd and Bud Selig.
Just sayin...
Quote from: Phanatic on October 28, 2008, 03:44:50 PM
raped by Gawd and Bud Selig.
I would agree with aborting that child.
Quote from: FastFreddie on October 28, 2008, 03:46:22 PM
Quote from: Phanatic on October 28, 2008, 03:44:50 PM
raped by Gawd and Bud Selig.
I would agree with aborting that child.
clothes hanger. or swift kick to the stomach. or both.
I'd like to say something that's been on my mind all day.
Anyone who is whining about not knowing what to do because they "threw out" or "tossed" their ticket stubs....shut. the. farg. up. you. morons.
Who in the hell would toss their stubs?
1. If there wasn't a rain delay and the Phils WON last night, those stubs would have been the World Series game clinching ticket stubs. Something you hold onto for LIFE.
2. If you tossed them AFTER the game, what is wrong with you? WHY WOULD YOU DO THAT? Hello? Dumbass? If you didn't see/hear the announcement at the stadium, and had no idea what was going to happen for the next few innings of play when the game resumed, how are you dumb enough to throw them out? If it was up in the air, one of the options was going to be to re-use those stubs to get into the game again.
Jesus, people are so farging stupid it amazes me. And they're all crying online and on the radio today about it.
Quote from: PhillyGirl on October 28, 2008, 04:01:31 PM
I'd like to say something that's been on my mind all day.
Anyone who is whining about not knowing what to do because they "threw out" or "tossed" their ticket stubs....shut. the. farg. up. you. morons.
Who in the hell would toss their stubs?
1. If there wasn't a rain delay and the Phils WON last night, those stubs would have been the World Series game clinching ticket stubs. Something you hold onto for LIFE.
2. If you tossed them AFTER the game, what is wrong with you? WHY WOULD YOU DO THAT? Hello? Dumbass? If you didn't see/hear the announcement at the stadium, and had no idea what was going to happen for the next few innings of play when the game resumed, how are you dumb enough to throw them out? If it was up in the air, one of the options was going to be to re-use those stubs to get into the game again.
Jesus, people are so farging stupid it amazes me. And they're all crying online and on the radio today about it.
That place is gonna be half empty for the end of the game. Either that, or filled with homeless.
Like I said...i picked up
8 ticket stubs on the way out the door.
I was going to say, anyone who didn't go garbage picking or search the Wach lot for stubs is a moron too. LOL
Had I had time, I'd be down there with an umbrella and gloves, like a bum on Chestnut St...garbage picking away.
The thrifty ownership likely hired people off the street for $8/hour to search for stubs and will re-sell all those tickets for $200 each at the window.
Quote from: FastFreddie on October 28, 2008, 04:14:41 PM
The thrifty ownership likely hired people off the street for $8/hour to search for stubs and will re-sell all those tickets for $200 each at the window.
In.
i almost wonder if it will be over capacity for those who threw the ticket away, if they have receipts and printouts, they might have a hard time tracking tickets
Quote from: ice grillin you on October 28, 2008, 03:07:32 PM
definitely....why is everyone acting like they have the lead?
i don't get that feeling. everyone is pretty down today. majority of us are very nervous. i still can't believe this is happening.
i'd like a couple of runs.
i am confident i will be dead by tomorrow night, after I pick up jr. from football practice of course.
Quote from: PhillyGirl on October 28, 2008, 04:01:31 PM
Who in the hell would toss their stubs?
I still can't believe that. My god people they're WS ticket stubs! So what if they got wet. Idiots.
It's going to be insane down there trying to get in with ticket stubs only. I hope they plan on opening up the gates at least six hours early because if not they might have a riot on their hands. They might anyway, but still...
Oh, I think the stadium will be full.
Did anyone ask about parking yet? Seems like people are going to be charged twice...
Quote from: BigEd76 on October 28, 2008, 04:51:11 PM
Did anyone ask about parking yet? Seems like people are going to be charged twice...
Just announced on DNL, as long as you have your receipt or pass from lastnight parking is free. If you don't have it you're getting charged.
Quote from: ice grillin you on October 28, 2008, 03:07:32 PM
definitely....why is everyone acting like they have the lead?
cause, well because I said so. :paranoid
why are you always acting like our teams will always lose?
Quote from: phillymic2000 on October 28, 2008, 05:31:22 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on October 28, 2008, 03:07:32 PM
definitely....why is everyone acting like they have the lead?
cause, well because I said so. :paranoid
why are you always acting like our teams will always lose?
I'll speak for myself, shtein like last night only happens to philly teams
QuoteMLB Suggested That the Game Be Completed in Tampa
From one of the writers of the Unfiltered blog on baseballprospectus.com:
I'm told that MLB officials put forward the idea of moving Game Five's conclusion to Tampa on Wednesday with the intention of playing out Game Five and, if necessary, starting Game Six. The idea was quashed by both the Phillies and Fox.
:-D
Quote from: Seabiscuit36 on October 28, 2008, 05:49:23 PM
QuoteMLB Suggested That the Game Be Completed in Tampa
From one of the writers of the Unfiltered blog on baseballprospectus.com:
I'm told that MLB officials put forward the idea of moving Game Five's conclusion to Tampa on Wednesday with the intention of playing out Game Five and, if necessary, starting Game Six. The idea was quashed by both the Phillies and Fox.
:-D
the fact that it was even brought up makes me want to buy a gun and use it quite a bit.. mainly at anything related to MLB not including the phillies.
Are you farging serious?
Quote from: PhillyGirl on October 28, 2008, 05:56:23 PM
Are you farging serious?
http://www.baseballprospectus.com/unfiltered/
While they're at it, why don't they allow their fans to throw cowbells at the Phillies players? Or, they could simply let the Rays play their entire team in the field every inning to make sure nothing drops.
Quote from: Seabiscuit36 on October 28, 2008, 05:49:23 PM
QuoteMLB Suggested That the Game Be Completed in Tampa
From one of the writers of the Unfiltered blog on baseballprospectus.com:
I'm told that MLB officials put forward the idea of moving Game Five's conclusion to Tampa on Wednesday with the intention of playing out Game Five and, if necessary, starting Game Six. The idea was quashed by both the Phillies and Fox.
:-D
now i have the weapons and explosives out.
hey, let's finish it in Milwaukee!
Quote from: FastFreddie on October 28, 2008, 06:05:42 PM
While they're at it, why don't they allow their fans to throw cowbells at the Phillies players? Or, they could simply let the Rays play their entire team in the field every inning to make sure nothing drops.
REally.
wtf, I cannot believe that.
this is a farging joke
so much bullshtein
farg it
45.9/60 rating last night for the game in philly, about half that in tampa. that translates to around 2 mil watching the game in the philly area, or aboot 45% of the population. of course, that doesnt count all the parties and jam packed bars and 45k at the stadium.
Quote from: MDS on October 28, 2008, 06:12:26 PM
this is a farging joke
so much bullshtein
farg it
45.9/60 rating last night for the game in philly, about half that in tampa. that translates to around 2 mil watching the game in the philly area, or aboot 45% of the population. of course, that doesnt count all the parties and jam packed bars and 45k at the stadium.
good point. do you know how this compared to the MNF game? shtein, I think Bizzare Foods on The Travel Channel got a higher rating than game 5.
Andrew Zimmern is great!
Whenever you think MLB can't be more of a whored out collection of c*cksuckers, you hear a rumor like they actually suggested that the game be moved to Tampa.
Honest to God, I think Bud Selig's life might literally be in danger if that happened. And that's not hype, either. I'm talking serious jeopardy.
you guys really shouldnt believe everything you read on the internet
Why not?
its possible that some of it might not be true
Bud Selig's life may still be in jeopardy if the Phils somehow lose this Series.
Agreed on the dumbshtein iceholes who discarded the ticket stubs. I was thinking about the stubs last night while watching the game and seeing everyone get wet in the stands. I thought about how they could be lifetime collectibles and I would have probably made like an inmate smuggling in a rock to keep my ticket stub dry. And some chunked 'em? Idiots.
Please tell me that those who were calling into WIP and whining about it were getting ripped by the hosts.
RE: Myers starting...absolutely not. Like Rome and SD said, the 1st inning of work for him is never his best. Can't afford to farg around with only 2.5 to go.
I was like an imbalanced retard today when thinking about the offense and the ramifications of last night. One moment I'd be thinking about how the Phils were pissed enough to come out and pound the ball thus collectively giving TB and MLB the finger and ending it.
Then I'd flip to being negative and thinking about how TB turned it around,, their offense would come out crushing and the Phils would go down feebly against that raging steroid junkie Grant Balfour or The Anointed One David Price.
if the phils choked this series away how would it even remotely be bud seligs fault
i didn't say it would be...I'm saying there would be plenty of people who direct their anger and blame towards him and what did/did not happen last night.
If the Phils choke this series away, the hit list will be long and most random.
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on October 28, 2008, 07:43:49 PM
i didn't say it would be...I'm saying there would be plenty of people who direct their anger and blame towards him and what did/did not happen last night.
Exactly.
It would definitely be
Elmer Bud Selig Season out there.
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philadelphia fans are smarter than that
starting the 6th inning was colassally stupid but you cant come up with a solid reason why that would cost them game 5 much less the series
Other than the fact that starting the 6th meant Upton, the guy who scored the tying run, hit a ball that normally is fielded with ease by Mr. Smooth at SS?
Or that their ace could not throw his best pitch?
Last night was a clusterfarg and Selig played it as bad as he possibly could.
On a funny side note...
My girl was watching some of the game on TV in Peru...the Phanatic came on screen and she was like "what the hell is that thing?!"
time for a bidding war between Phreak and Rome
ebay (http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=280280648234)
I'd buy it and then drown Selig with it.
You know, maybe it's just the learned despair, but it just doesn't feel right. I mean, after Rollins got that horrible safe call off Longoria, he was clearly pissed off and ineffective the rest of that game. I see the same thing happening when this restarts.
If this goes back to Tampa, that could be trouble. Shields and Garza had great seasons there, and Myers is a nutjob. Even with Hamels pitching.....I don't know. This all seems vaguely familiar.
I'm really only a casual baseball fan, so this feeling is not based on any factual analysis, but,....this city's teams always finds a way to farg themselves over. And when they avoid that, bad luck takes over.
I'll be a lot happier when the Phillies have actually won it. Till then, I'm worried.
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on October 28, 2008, 07:33:05 PM
Please tell me that those who were calling into WIP and whining about it were getting ripped by the hosts.
I was like an imbalanced retard today when thinking about the offense and the ramifications of last night. One moment I'd be thinking about how the Phils were pissed enough to come out and pound the ball thus collectively giving TB and MLB the finger and ending it.
Then I'd flip to being negative and thinking about how TB turned it around,, their offense would come out crushing and the Phils would go down feebly against that raging steroid junkie Grant Balfour or The Anointed One David Price.
Yes on the WIP hosts ripping any idiot that threw away their stub. Eskin was especially brutal.
Your day sounds like mine. I've been a frickin' ball of emotions all day. I still can't believe this shtein.
Alright, I've had a day and a half to process this...
1. Game should have never started. The radar pretty clearly showed that the rain was coming and would not let up once it started.
2. Game should have been stopped after five. Conditions were pretty unplayable then.
3. Timing, at least on the surface, should favor the Phils, simply because they have the extra at-bat.
4. Hopefully the Phils can channel that anger and fustration to their pathetic offensive performance. If they can get the jump on whatever pitcher the Rays throw in tonight, they could end this early.
5. Count me among those that have a bad feeling. Call it negadelphian or whatever, if this goes back to Tampa, I just don't like the possibilities. Tampa was one of the best teams in the league all year, and the Phils have a tendency to slump. And momentum does count for something in a tense playoff series. I won't say that I EXPECT them to lose, but I will say that I will have that nervous (and nauseous) feeling in the pit of my stomach until they win the series.
6. Anyone else having to avoid the national sports media? Makes me want to break things.
7. Bud Selig is an f'n moron. He's making Gary Bettman, Andy Reid and George Bush look like geniuses right now.
8. They have 3½ innings. The game is tied. They have the extra at-bat. Hopefully they can make everything else moot tonight.
Steve Phillips said that the MLB and Selig did everything right handling the game monday..lol
My worry, the 2000 Flyers vs Devils. Up 3-1, i never count teams out now.
david price = marty broduer
All of you....shut up.
If the Phillies can't win it all after this, they dont deserve to win it at all. None of this has any bearing on anything.
I am still pissed about how it was handled because the PHils SHOULD be up 2-1 after 5 right now, but they're not. But they have 4 ABs and the Rays have 3. THey have the best BP in baseball to handle 9 outs...and one of the best offenses in baseball to get one farging run.
If they can't, they're not worthy of winning. Period.
And since they ARE worthy of it, they'll take it. If not here, In that Godforsaken dump of a stadium in Tampa...and shtein all over their wannabe fans.
Quote from: ice grillin you on October 29, 2008, 08:14:54 AM
david price = marty broduer
igy = wrong about at least the last two series.
Oh, and if it IS frigid weather tonight, I want to hear everyone on TV stop complaining because its been frigid in Boston for the World Series every time they're there.
http://deadspin.com/5069963/time-to-play-guess-which-phillie-ripped-bud-selig
QuoteGenerally I don't use anonymous quotes, unless it's concerning something really big, like when a member of the Phillies sees Bud Selig in the clubhouse following the Game 5 rain delay and utters the immortal line: "I wouldn't let him supervise one of my shteins." Who is this mystery poet? Personally my money's on Cole Hamels, but of course that's just rank speculation. Here are some more clues, plus a second, unknown Selig basher:
From the Courier-Post:
That (expletive deleted) guy, one pitcher said as he saw commissioner Bud Selig before walking out the back door of the clubhouse. I wouldnt let him supervise one of my (bowel movements). He has no clue. Not one (expletive deleted) clue.
(Expletive deleted), one position player said in the direction of one television pausing only for a moment before leaving. Hes a moron. How stupid can one person be?
Speculate away, Phillies fans. But while you're sleuthing, contemplate this: Has there been a more beleaguered baseball commissioner than Selig? I liken him these days to Alan Greenspan, the former Fed chairman who recently admitted that he screwed up royally in the years leading to the country's financial meltdown. But Foul Balls does me one better, likening our Bud to E.B. Farnum, the sweaty-palmed, rodent-like hotel manager/mayor of the HBO series Deadwood. My only regret is that Swearengen is not around to keep him in line.
Im going with Myers
It was Cholly.
I'm no Sam Donnellan fan at ALL....I think he's a sniveling, miserable little man....but as the saying goes, even a blind squirrel finds a nut.....
http://www.philly.com/philly/sports/columnists/20081029_Sam_Donnellon__Bud_Selig_is_for_Fox_Network__not_for_you.html
Great column.
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steppin his game up
Hopefully he runs into Selig and Betteman
There is a commercial over here on AFN that has different guys from the Phillies thanking us, Myer's little segment is by far the worst he sounds like he is retarded.
retardation explains the anger issues
Bill Clinton and George W. would not hesitate to give him the needle or the chair.
Holy christ you need to stop with the politics. Rent a porno or something.
I don't need to rent a porno, as I'll have a rager when Lidge closes out the top of the 9th tonight.
http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/playoffs2008/news/story?id=3670398
QuoteGame 5 bets on Phillies pay off in Vegas sports books
ESPN.com news services
What happens in Philly pays in Vegas.
In reality, the Tampa Bay Rays and Philadelphia Phillies are tied 2-2 after rain halted Game 5 of the World Series after 5½ innings.
But in the world of Las Vegas sports books, the Phillies won 2-1 -- and side bets on the Phillies have to be paid out.
Confused? There's a simple explanation.
According to Nevada Gaming Commission rules the final score of an official baseball game, for betting purposes, is determined by reverting to the last completed inning, the Las Vegas Review-Journal reported. And the Phillies led Game 5, 2-1, after five completed innings.
Wagers on totals and run-line bets are being refunded because gaming rules stipulate that at least 8½ innings must be played for those bets to pay off, according to the report.
"We're just following the regular baseball rules. This is a very common rule," Las Vegas Hilton sports book director Jay Kornegay said, according to the report. "We can't make exceptions.
"There was no special disclaimer for World Series games, or any playoff games for that matter, that your bet would continue if the game was suspended," Kornegay said, according to the report. "It's one of those unfortunate, misunderstood rules of baseball betting."
Jeff Sherman, assistant manager of the Hilton sports book, told Bloomberg that several regular-season baseball games were affected by the same rule. But none were as high profile as the World Series game.
"It hasn't had as much notoriety as its getting now because it's a rare instance," he told Bloomberg. "When we had this during the regular season, we get people who say, 'Oh, I didn't know that.' Now it's just on a lot larger scale."
How about double or nothing?
"I'm sure there are disgruntled bettors because people see it as a 2-2 game and they're stuck with a losing ticket,'' said John Harper, senior oddsmaker at Las Vegas Sports Consultants, in an interview witih Bloomberg. "It's a break for someone who had a Philly ticket.''
Kornegay said the Hilton would post a prop bet Wednesday on the conclusion of Game 5, the Review-Journal reported. He said the Phillies, who have an advantage because they still get to bat in the bottom of the sixth, will be money-line favorites and the wagers will be paid "whenever the game is finished."
According to morning lines in Las Vegas, Philadelphia is listed at -160 and Tampa Bay at +150. If the Rays win, a $1 bet will pay out $1.50; to win on the Phillies, a $1.60 bet wins $1.
Despite the Nevada gaming rules, some sports books, such as MGM/Mirage Properties, did not consider the Phillies the winner on Monday night and will wait until Game 5 is concluded to pay winners.
ha....someone called into Gargano's show and said dozens of fans are surrounding the hotel down in Delaware and chanting and going nuts....homeless people too
Are they throwing mustard packets?!?
game 6 is tomorrow night if they need it...no travel day
Well, I guess the Phils just have to do the right thing and let the Rays use tomorrow to relax and reflect.
1 run and 9 outs.
this has been the longest 48 hours in recent memory.
I am going to pick up a bottle of champagne on the way home.
Is my first instinct to expect defeat? Sure. But I am fighting it with all my might.
GO PHILS!
Tonights game is going to have the timing of a video game. I am going to have to emplore my raid the beer men strategy, the beer men ignore the 2 beer at a time limit and will send down as many as you ask for.
This is just gonna be awesome.
Don't forget your mittens.
http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/playoffs2008/columns/story?columnist=stark_jayson&id=3670327
QuoteComplete euphoria, or worst nightmare awaits all Philadelphians
Stark
By Jayson Stark
ESPN.com
(Archive)
Updated: October 29, 2008
PHILADELPHIA -- In Philadelphia, folks are used to seeing the sky fall on their greatest sports parades.
Just usually, it's not quite this literally.
In Philadelphia, a place I confess I've lived most of my life, they know stuff happens in sports. They just wonder why it's mostly bad stuff. Especially when things seem way too good -- by which we mean way too non-Philadelphian -- to be true.
So Game 5 of the 2008 World Series fits right in. It's so utterly Philadelphian, they should place a DVD of it in William Penn's hand, way up there on top of City Hall.
One day, these folks are pouring through the gates of a ballpark they love, certain they're about to watch a team they love do something they've witnessed once in their lives, their parents' lives, their grandparents' lives, the founding fathers' lives and, when you get right down to it, even the dinosaurs' lives:
Win a World Series.
Next thing they know, there's more water falling on their heads than flowing between the banks of the Schuylkill. Their sure-handed shortstop can't catch a pop-up. Their best pitcher can't grip the pitch that has made him what he is. And their happy little march to the parade floats has turned into an all-time weather debacle.
Only in Philadelphia.
Sooner or later -- hopefully as soon as 8:37 p.m ET Wednesday night -- Bud Selig will invite them all back to the ballpark to finish Game 5. And maybe it will all turn out fine for the Phillies and the millions of human beings whose mental health depends on them.
But that isn't what most of those humans are thinking right now. Ohhhhh no.
They're thinking: Even Mother Nature doesn't want them to win.
They're thinking: It's their meteorological Bartman Moment.
But above all, they're thinking: This could happen only in Philadelphia, a place where heartbreak in sports is the specialty of the house.
Well, if it means anything to these people, they should know that the team they've surgically attached their psyches to isn't thinking the way they're all thinking.
Asked Tuesday if he was worried about his players' ability to put this weird turn of events behind them, Phillies manager Charlie Manuel replied, confidently: "I don't think there's going to be any problem at all. I think we've been resilient now for the last couple of years. I think we know exactly where we're going and what we want to do. We're going to be ready."
Asked the night before what he would tell the fans who had shown up Monday at Citizens Bank Park believing they were about to see their team win the World Series, Phillies ace Cole Hamels retorted: "That's what we're believing. And that's what we still believe. Now it won't obviously be tonight. But tomorrow. That's what we really want to do. We want to do it in Philly, in front of the fans who have really been there for us all year."
Of course, every team says stuff like that about its fans this time of year. But this time, it's different. This time, it's those fans -- those weary, desperate, beaten-down, angst-ridden, broken dreamers -- who have become one of the most intriguing parts of this plot line.
These people have spent the last parade-free quarter-century walking around with such a profound, universal sense of dread that every one of them should have been assigned his or her own personal psychological counselor.
They weren't merely aware of all the natural sporting disasters that had befallen their teams through the years -- from Chico Ruiz to the Fog Bowl, from Black Friday to Smarty Jones. They'd spent much of their lives contemplating just how and when their next nightmare was about to demolish their spirit, with one swing of the big old sporting wrecking ball.
But then something amazing happened.
There was something about this Phillies team that gave them faith, gave them the courage to conquer that dread.
They'd just seen their team win one game on a 2 a.m. dribbler down the line and another on a mighty home run by a pitcher they'd never before confused with Mike Schmidt. They found their team leading this World Series, three games to one. And all of a sudden, for once in their lives, they were convinced this was their time, that it was finally safe to trust this team.
That's a phenomenon, you understand, that's more rare in this universe than the aurora borealis. So when it erupted over the last few weeks, it was so striking that even these players themselves noticed it.
"Even when we'd lose a game late in the season," said third baseman Greg Dobbs, "the stuff we'd hear was: 'That's OK, boys. Get 'em tomorrow.' Not: 'Boo, you suck.' We got none of that. So you know how people say you learn more about yourselves and others when you face adversity? I think that's something I learned from the fans. I realized that these fans have actually turned the corner."
But in Philadelphia, it's never a shock that, just when they least expect it, the corner is always waiting to turn on them. So now it has turned. One more time.
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Jimmy Rollins
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Jimmy Rollins and the Phillies could be world champions by the end of tonight, or they could be headed for a Game 6 on Thursday night at Tropicana Field.
And, naturally, it wouldn't even be the first time the weather gods did the turning.
It's now 31 years since another October monsoon washed away another Phillies team's dreams -- 31 years since the Phillies and Dodgers played an entire, LCS-ending game in conditions right out of the set of "A Perfect Storm." And of course, people in Philadelphia spent all day Tuesday reminiscing about that day -- because no good Philadelphia sports horror story deserves to be put out of its misery. Ever.
But at least, unlike that day, the commissioner of baseball didn't pretend that this time around it wasn't even raining. At least this time, the commish noticed those raindrops and placed this game in a state of suspended animation.
So at least this time -- with 3½ innings left to be played in Game 5 -- there's a chance for this Phillies team to rewrite this story.
Or not.
So that's the plot line hovering over this World Series whenever Game 5 resumes.
If, somehow, the Phillies don't go on to win, this World Series could wind up leaving a scar on their fan base the size of the King of Prussia Mall.
But if they do, they can turn this goofy weather mess into something to laugh about during every October deluge for the next thousand years.
So this is now more than a mere sporting event, friends. It's a life-altering event for an entire community. Do these people get their parade and release their demons? Or does one horrendously ill-timed act of nature drive them deeper into the Cuckoo's Nest?
It will all be played out on a soggy October baseball field. Only in Philadelphia
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The 8:37pm start wouldn't have anything to do with a politcal infomercial would it? Cause I know Selig would never bow to Fox and would rather look out for the safety of the teams and fans.
Quote from: phillymic2000 on October 29, 2008, 04:45:35 PM
The 8:37pm start wouldn't have anything to do with a politcal infomercial would it? Cause I know Selig would never bow to Fox and would rather look out for the safety of the teams and fans.
Did the other games start any earlier? I can't remember one game starting before 8:30.
Quote from: PhillyGirl on October 29, 2008, 05:11:00 PM
Quote from: phillymic2000 on October 29, 2008, 04:45:35 PM
The 8:37pm start wouldn't have anything to do with a politcal infomercial would it? Cause I know Selig would never bow to Fox and would rather look out for the safety of the teams and fans.
Did the other games start any earlier? I can't remember one game starting before 8:30.
They did not start any earlier at all. It was frustrating that they were even listed at 8:00.
Madson gets the "start".
Quote from: PhillyGirl on October 29, 2008, 05:11:00 PM
Quote from: phillymic2000 on October 29, 2008, 04:45:35 PM
The 8:37pm start wouldn't have anything to do with a politcal infomercial would it? Cause I know Selig would never bow to Fox and would rather look out for the safety of the teams and fans.
Did the other games start any earlier? I can't remember one game starting before 8:30.
No, and this is not a shot @ obama at all, I said earlier that it was a wow move by him to buy a time slot on national TV. I figure if weather is a concern, start the game at 7 or 7:30pm mainly so the party can start earlier!
Well, they should have started at 3pm on Monday if they gave a shtein about that.
Quote from: QB Eagles on October 29, 2008, 06:02:26 PM
Madson gets the "start".
Works for me. He can go 2, and Lidge will close it out.
Tonight is the night. NOT going back to Tampa.
I'm nervously excited.
I am glad Madson is the guy out there. Let him mow down the 7th and start the 8th, perhaps. That leaves Romero for the 8th and LOL for the 9th.
I'm excited, nauseous, heart in my throat, wishing Obama would shut the hell up so we can get this started already.
GO PHILLIES!
I just wanted to take this quick opportunity to say that as much as I hate all of you guys, I love all of you guys.
80
08
GO PHILS.
YEEEAAAAAHHHH!
YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS!!!
POUR IT ON!!
LETS GO!
Oh, sweet Jesus.
it feels like the game never got rained out with shtein like that.
Lets go fargers!!!
farg.
Kick in the balls.
Damn.
Welcome to Hell.
SIT THE farg DOWN, MOTHERfargER.
GREAT GREAT GREAT play by Utley
Great time for Patsy to start producing!
Motherfcking yeah!
Get his ass home, Vic.
LETS GO!!
2 more farging feet and that's a home run. farging wind.
Hmm... 6-7-8 against the submariner. Find a way to get Bruntlett home, dammit!
Beardlett in....lets goooooooooo Vic!
sink the submarine. Silent Service
C'mon Feliz, a fly into right is all we need.
Quote from: QB Eagles on October 29, 2008, 09:19:08 PM
C'mon Feliz, a fly into right is all we need.
A single works too!!
Helluva play by the Jap.
Lets go JC...shut their asses down.
6 motherfcking outs away!
Glad Manuel kept JC in. I was nervous about losing Romero, I don't trust those other bums until Lidge comes in.
Haha I just screamed "farging asian" when he made that play....there are definitely asians very close to the dorm room I'm in.
3 more outs. YOU GOTTA BELIEVE!
I literally just puked a little in my mouth.
get the tissues ready--tears will be shed...in a very good way
Make it happen!
3 outs to go.
I'm shaking like a freaking leaf.
holy sht we're so close now :crazy :crazy :crazy
By the way, remember that Maddon kept Howell in specifically to pitch to Burrell. But we're told Maddon is a genius.
One more save, Lidge.
One more time, Lidge.
End our farging misery.
that hit/only hit by Burrell was not an aboration....this shtein was meant to be
Im sick to my stomach right now.....somebody please hold me
Dear God,
One time.
Sincerely,
Every Philadelphian who's ever lived.
2 more!
1 more! Feels like my heart is in my throat and my stomach is in my head...
Lidge is trying to kill me now.
One more.
Please, God. Please.
I love everyone!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Season's over. Time to move on.
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this is great!
I LOVE YOU ALL!!!
I LOVE YOU!!!!
Quote from: Don Ho on October 29, 2008, 10:11:18 PM
this is great!
I LOVE YOU ALL!
I LOVE YOU!!
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Congrats guys, it's nice that the city has a recent title now! That's something. Now if the Iggs can get on the board. Enjoy it!
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YESSSSSSSSSSSSSS!!!!!
the fact that Utley held on to that ball to decide to accurately throw to home was nothing short of amazing
one of a kind play
I'm going to puke with joy.
Quote from: reese125 on October 29, 2008, 10:26:06 PM
the fact that Utley held on to that ball to decide to accurately throw to home was nothing short of amazing
one of a kind play
Agreed. Play of the game, including the part on Monday.
Where the hell is Mo? Time to change the banner, motherfarger!
We still do want the Mets to die, though. Let's be honest.
IM Meeting you muthafargers when they announce this parade. CHAMPS
AMAZING!!!!!!!!
I LOVE EVERYONE!!!!!1
The suffering is over after all these years of McNabb puking and Lindros concussions, together we lived through the Fog Bowl and Iverson and Hexy and Cunningham and the Bounty Bowl and the Legion of Doom and Wild Thing and the Body Bag Game and Ronde Barber and Shawn Bradley and Mike Mamula and 4th and 26 and TONIGHT THAT ERA ENDS BECAUSE PHILADELPHIA HAS A CHAMPIONSHIP!!!!! wrt3 4t4u4btg43t ibnue
Fightens WIIIINNNN!! :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D
I cannot even describe how I feel.
Amazing. I went absolutely batshtein crazy.
my heart is racing and WE WON THE MOTHERfargING WORLD SERIES!!!
Parade starts at noon Friday at 20th & Market
South on Broad Street
Ending at CBP
Quote from: BigEd76 on October 29, 2008, 10:46:30 PM
Parade starts at noon Friday at 20th & Market
South on Broad Street
Ending at CBP
:drool
FF, you better be coming, i just got calls from friends in FL and KY who are booking flights now, if they arent done now
Philly.com cam outside CBP (http://www.philly.com/philly/sports/phillies/33400454.html) (use IE)
Unreal....my girlfriend flies in to San Antonio on Friday.
WHY CANT IT BE ON SATURDAY!?!?!?
uh oh....here comes the rioting. A CBS3 van just got smashed and rocked
This team is all heroes now... Lidge, Hamels, Moyer, Blanton, Utley, Howard had huge moments... even Ruiz, Burrell and Victorino came up big when they needed to... and Feliz of all people had the game winning RBI... :crazy
:-D
Damn, for real?
I hoped this would not happen. Its going to ruin it.
Unbelievable! I wish I could be there to celebrate! Oh well, World Champs!!!!!!!
Quote from: Seabiscuit36 on October 29, 2008, 10:50:15 PM
FF, you better be coming, i just got calls from friends in FL and KY who are booking flights now, if they arent done now
I might be able to work this out yet.
Halloween is the worst day of the year to fly, especially on a Friday. Hoo boy.
The best part of the post game: listening to the fans boo Selig the entire time he spoke. farging hilarious.
I know this is a LOT more important to other people on the board, but it is pretty awesome to break the drought.
I teared up when I heard Harry.
My grandpop is in ICU and it made me think of him. I hope he could watch. :'(
A pic for Don Ho:
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HELL YES! WORLD CHAMPS!
I thought about my grandma. She loved the Phillies.
This team was amazing in the playoffs. 11-3. 7-0 at home. And the individual players weren't all playing their best. But they had the pitching throughout the playoffs.
Amazing. Freaking amazing.
Congratulations losers. It's about time you iceholes got a taste of Championship.
Phillies were the best team in the post season, Hamels was nails and you all had timely hitting.
The best team won the most un-interesting world series EVER.
Now...rub some of that magic off on the Eagles.
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http://www.justin.tv/wvudak06
For the out of towners!
LIVE VIDEO from FOX 29
Quote from: QB Eagles on October 29, 2008, 11:04:20 PM
A pic for Don Ho:
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Sweet! Some dude from Maui just called in on the local sports talk show and said he went to games 3, 4 and 5 Act I plus the birds game on Sunday. Poor bastich had to fly home to the islands yesterday. Apparently a Friend of Victorino.
The 808 is gonna eat Shane up! We love um!
This is so awesome.
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on October 29, 2008, 11:13:15 PM
http://www.justin.tv/wvudak06
For the out of towners!
LIVE VIDEO from FOX 29
good stuff! thanks.
Quote from: Don Ho on October 29, 2008, 11:21:38 PM
Quote from: QB Eagles on October 29, 2008, 11:04:20 PM
A pic for Don Ho:
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Sweet! Some dude from Maui just called in on the local sports talk show and said he went to games 3, 4 and 5 Act I plus the birds game on Sunday. Poor bastich had to fly home to the islands yesterday. Apparently a Friend of Victorino.
The 808 is gonna eat Shane up! We love um!
This is so awesome.
dude, gotta come back east NOW, i want to convince my bro
Yeah thanks for the link for us out of towners!
Burrell on live TV: "all the sh*t I've been through........1983....1993....this is OUR show now"
BigEd: your sole mission in life is now to find that video. :-D
Quote from: BigEd76 on October 29, 2008, 11:25:23 PM
Burrell on live TV: "all the sh*t I've been through........1983....1993....this is OUR show now"
that was CLASSIC Burrell
Quote from: Munson on October 29, 2008, 09:25:32 PM
Haha I just screamed "farging asian" when he made that play....there are definitely asians very close to the dorm room I'm in.
ah, try yell that out in Hawaii! I've had to bite my tongue all series as my neighbors would not have been to happy with my "farging Tojo" references.
My two oldest watched the game with me, brought back memories of watching it when I was 7 with my pops! We went nuts shot off some fireworks sang WE are the Champions (I actually know how it feels to sing it with meaning now). My daughter asked me if she could wear my property of the world champs T-shirt from 80. Brought me to tears!! I love my kids, my city!!!this team. Farg yeah!!
And PG time to take down that philly fan waiting for a championship logo!!
Un fargin believable!!!
philly=champs!!!!!!!!!!
thanks the link!!!
Can you believe this shtein!
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man, i would love that shtein! my neighborhood is going down friday night. i'll go as a drunken phillies fan for halloween. Won't have to act to hard.
so where's the craziest place in philly right now?
Quote from: BigEd76 on October 29, 2008, 10:46:30 PM
Parade starts at noon Friday at 20th & Market
South on Broad Street
Ending at CBP
:'(
Everyone going enjoy and fargin love every minute of it!!!!!!!!
Blanton smokin a cigar sweeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeet
ahahaha shteins on fire in the streets
They got a fire in the middle of the street and people are just walking into it, LOL. City is insane right now, and it should be!
looks like they are burning something in the middle of the street!!
that view is amazing
Charlie on CSN wearing a red top hat
Dobbs going crazy, hitting on Jamie Apody and making no sense :-D
no room on broad st!!!!
Damn I'm jealous
the dude broadcasting this FOX cast on the net just did a huge bong hit and is coughing like crazy now :-D
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on October 29, 2008, 11:13:15 PM
http://www.justin.tv/wvudak06
For the out of towners!
LIVE VIDEO from FOX 29
I'm also enjoying when the video poster takes down the audio so we can hear his bong rips. :-D
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on October 29, 2008, 11:41:57 PM
the dude broadcasting this FOX cast on the net just did a huge bong hit and is coughing like crazy now :-D
:-D that was exactly what i was going to say. he's dying.
:-D :-D
He's tokin like crazy.
bubbbbbbbbbbbbbble....
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on October 29, 2008, 11:41:57 PM
the dude broadcasting this FOX cast on the net just did a huge bong hit and is coughing like crazy now :-D
Phreak,
did you just hear the bong? :-D
Quote11:43alpha_q:*** why you coughin so much after a bong hit bro, you gotta take it like a champ
11:43alpha_q:we champs tonight
:-D
Hell yeah, that dude was tokin hard. :-D
Charlie "Burney...errr, Brunt....uhh, Bruntlett"
Lidge loves him sum Philly fans.
I WILL SHOOT THE FINGER TO EVERY ASTRO FAN TOMORROW
HAHAHAHAHAHA CSN had a camera on Harry K for the final call and Wheels started flipping out and having a seizure in the background :-D
and Moyer stole the pitching rubber :-D
I'll be rocking my old-school Phillies tie to school tomorrow.
Gotta rub it in to all my middle schoolers who suddenly were life-long Rays fans. :)
Geo...go in guns a blazin'..
"Your assignments, you little pricks, is to write a history of this World Series".
DUDES WEEEE WON!!!!!
I AM DRUNK................................................
THERE IS A GOD.....
that pothead passed out, any new live video?
Quote from: QB Eagles on October 29, 2008, 11:58:51 PM
that pothead passed out, any new live video?
i think he did. i'm dying over here. must have feed.
all the espn crew now praisng the phils! HA. Christ you spent the past two days crucifing them. We don't forget.
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on October 29, 2008, 11:54:54 PM
Geo...go in guns a blazin'..
"Your assignments, you little pricks, is to write a history of this World Series".
You kidding, I've got an intern teaching tomorrow.
I'll be on the net reading about the Phillies! 8)
a bunch of celebration videos on Youtube (http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=phillies+world+series&search_sort=video_date_uploaded)
CSN just showed Pat in the locker room....says he doesn't think he'll be back but hopes he can
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Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on October 29, 2008, 11:54:54 PM
Geo...go in guns a blazin'..
"Your assignments, you little pricks, is to write a history of this World Series".
You kidding, I've got an intern teaching tomorrow.
I'll be on the net reading about the Phillies! 8)
I love my wife! She had relatives in town from Kauai that she had to take to a doctor's appointment this afternoon - she said the whole office came into the waiting room to watch the ninth inning on the waiting room tv. while she was killing time today she bought me a "Flyin Hawaiian" t-shirt that is locally produced. thing is so cool. daddy very happy!
QuoteRich Hofmann: Believe it, Phils are champs
By RICH HOFMANN
Philadelphia Daily News
hofmanr@phillynews.com
TWENTY-FIVE YEARS joined them all, fans and Phillies, young and old, diehards and cynics, as pitcher Brad Lidge dropped to his knees in front of the mound. History will record the final out was a strikeout of Tampa Bay's Eric Hinske. It was 9:58 p.m. The hour of redemption was upon them all.
Catcher Carlos Ruiz reached Lidge first as Citizens Bank Park erupted. So that's what it sounds like, after all? Ryan Howard rushed in from first base and bowled over both Lidge and Ruiz, and then the real pileup began. People hugged, jumped, danced in the seats. One guy held up a sign that said, "Yo Adrian, We Did It."
Twenty-five years. And Jimmy Rollins said, "It's over, man. It's over."
The ballpark was filled by proxies - 25 current Phillies players representing decades of a franchise filled mostly by despair; 45,000 fans standing and yelling on behalf of millions of their fellow citizens, some who had lost their voices, others who had lost all hope after a quarter-century without a major sports championship.
As Philadelphians, we seem to grow wary when things begin
going too well. We fear success sometimes. We are frightened by perfection. It would take an hour and an advanced degree in sociology to explain it, but we all know it is true.
But we will know forever now that Lidge, the closer who never blew a save all season, led them in the end to a 4-3 victory, led the franchise to its first championship in 28 years. And teammate Ryan Madson said, "It's a good thing he was perfect because this is unbelievable. It was a lot of hard word and it's all for a reason now."
An hour beforehand, it was still hard to know. The seats at Citizens Bank Park, dark blue and mostly empty, sat unopened in the cold. You could imagine the ticketholders huddling elsewhere, in the concourse, around their cars and their coolers, trying to stay warm, stamping their feet, pondering their fate, waiting.
They had arrived here early Monday night filled with hope and departed a few hours later, wet and exhausted, sentenced to 2 more days. "Only in Philly," came the simple message from a buddy, and it was echoed a million-fold throughout the region. This is a place that has found comfort in misery over the last quarter-century. So, rain? Of course.
They came to see 3 1/2 innings, the resumption of a suspended World Series game, the final, labored sprint at the end of a 25-year marathon. And you wondered - what it would feel like when a Philadelphia team finally won?
It felt like sprayed champagne in your eyes and fans who didn't want to leave, who chanted for Phils manager Charlie Manuel to come back out of the clubhouse nearly 90 minutes after the game ended.
It looked like relief pitcher Chad Durbin, kneeling down on the pitching mound, scooping up a handful of dirt and sifting it into the tiny hand of one of his children.
It looked like 45-year-old pitcher Jamie Moyer, standing on the field, doing an interview and then excusing himself to run over and get into a picture with his wife and children. It will make one hell of a Christmas card.
Twenty-five years. "What can they say now that we're world champions?" Rollins said. "Twenty-five years they've waited. I was barely born."
It was so odd, the whole night. It will forever be a part of the lore. No one had ever seen what all of us just saw, a World Series game suspended by rain and resumed 46 hours later. The Phillies were leading the Rays by three games to one, and they needed only one more win, one more for the title, and no one had ever been a part of such a crownus interruptus - not here, not anywhere.
And this is how they took the lead: In the bottom of the seventh, Pedro Feliz singled, through a drawn-in infield, to score Eric Bruntlett. Bruntlett was pinch-running for Pat Burrell, who had doubled high off of the wall in left-center to lead off the inning. The batter before, Bruntlett had advanced to third on a groundout by Shane Victorino after Victorino failed twice to get down a bunt.
Look at that sequence. Feliz, brought here mostly for his glove. Bruntlett, a spare part. Burrell, a lifer here, maybe in his last Phillies at-bat. Victorino, part of the young, new energy on the roster.
Four players. One run. The end of an era that Philadelphia swore would not define us but very likely did.
Twenty-five years. So this is what it feels like.
Rioting in Pitt :-D Burn that place down!
Unbelievable
The city is farging nuts right now. I just got back but every where you go there's people celebrating.
Not to sound too cliche (or gay) but aside from the day my daughter was born this is the greatest day in my life.
25 YEARS OF HEARTACHE ARE OVER AND IT WAS ALL WORTH IT!
I've watched that last slider a hundred times already. That pitch was so farging nasty.
my body is tingly. i might be stroking out. it doens't matter now though.
farg YEAH BABY
Quote from: QB Eagles on October 30, 2008, 12:34:50 AM
I've watched that last slider a hundred times already. That pitch was so farging nasty.
i know right.. the icehole before him had the ump check the ball. nah brah, no need to check it, u just blow.
WORLD SERIES CHAMPIONS!
I STILL CAN NOT BELIEVED I SAW THIS IN PERSON!!
http://deadspin.com/5070748/us-did-it-phillies-are-world-series-champions
Quote from: BigEd76 on October 30, 2008, 01:07:20 AM
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on October 19, 2008, 11:44:09 PM
Phillies in 5.
HOMER...LOL
This has been the best 100bucks i ever spent. Im betting against philly teams from now on
Here's that Wheels video for the out-of-towners (http://vimeo.com/2105920) :-D
I went out a while ago and just got back. Four Phillies girls were out at the bar and got me drunk as farg. I mean MUNSON DRUNK.
Jesus.
I have to go to work in five hours.
:-D
only 7:54 PM in Hawaii and I got all farging night!
HOW SWEET IT IS!
Quote from: BigEd76 on October 30, 2008, 01:30:27 AM
Here's that Wheels video for the out-of-towners (http://vimeo.com/2105920) :-D
that just made my life! :-D
WORLD SERIES BITCHHHHHHHHHES.
JUST GOT BACK.
LOVE YOU ALL
I don't even know where to start. Literally the craziest 4 hours of my life. Basically all of Temple and North Philly ran to City Hall (I biked), then the fun got going on Broad between Chesnut and Walnut. Cars getting tipped over, fires, getting in mad scrambles for those flags hanging on polls along Broad (I got a piece of one).
Wow. I...don't know what else. I don't know what to do or feel.
^^^^^^
you lucky shtein. must have been a blast.
Quote from: MDS on October 30, 2008, 02:30:48 AM
I don't even know where to start. Literally the craziest 4 hours of my life. Basically all of Temple and North Philly ran to City Hall (I biked), then the fun got going on Broad between Chesnut and Walnut. Cars getting tipped over, fires, getting in mad scrambles for those flags hanging on polls along Broad (I got a piece of one).
Wow. I...don't know what else. I don't know what to do or feel.
Dude we were very close in proximity.
Me and my friend were never got too far away from the pretty big fire that got set under the redlight that those people climbed that hung over the street....can't remember the name for the life of me but it was pretty close.
Haha a group of guys carrying their bikes were walking through the crowd and the crowd around them started chanting "Hipsters" :-D
I hope you also saw some nice tits like I did.
But yes, it was farging awesome. Watching them win it then running down Broad towards city hall has got be the greatest moment of my life. It was farging insane and my friend got a ton of pictures....I'll post some of them, maybe in a new thread so as not to clutter this one. Jesus farging christ what a night. So farging awesome being in Philly for that.
WORLD SERIES CHAMPS!! WOOOOOOO!
^^^^^^
Quote from: Don Ho on October 30, 2008, 02:40:09 AM
^^^^^^
you lucky shtein. must have been a blast.
GOOD MORNING WORLD CHAMPIONS!
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The last out (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dGuO-Ai-sJk)
Just checked.... the Phillies are still World Champions!
Quote from: QB Eagles on October 30, 2008, 07:10:13 AM
Just checked.... the Phillies are still World Champions!
i literally had to wake up and turn on fox 29 to make sure
Congratulations, Phillies fans. Your team did you proud! :yay
Sweeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeet.
Congratulations, guys. For real. I'm happy for ya.
Yep, congrats guys. Enjoy it :)
P.S - All this broad st stuff looks like a hell of a lot of fun.
World Series Champion Philadelphia Phillies
I still can't believe it.
I just keep watching that last pitch over and over again on YouTube.
Quote from: Seabiscuit36 on October 30, 2008, 07:31:17 AM
Quote from: QB Eagles on October 30, 2008, 07:10:13 AM
Just checked.... the Phillies are still World Champions!
i literally had to wake up and turn on fox 29 to make sure
Me too.
But my eyes being swollen with a headache let me know it happened. I cried like a little baby last night after that pitch and crying usually leads to swollen eyes and headaches for me. SO I knew it from that.
I just watched the Fox link at the one spot where he pitches the final pitch. Hearing that crowd sound over and over again right as he swung at the pitch gives me goosebumps every time.
Its surreal right now. It really doesn't seem real to me. At. All.
Fire Manuel :P
i loved the booing of Selig presenting the trophy, god i love philly
And LOL at the azn reporter asking Charlie why he didnt use Taguchi.
Quote from: Seabiscuit36 on October 30, 2008, 09:35:29 AM
i loved the booing of Selig presenting the trophy, god i love philly
And LOL at the azn reporter asking Charlie why he didnt use Taguchi.
Yes.
Ha! Well, Iwamura was one of the best players on the field for the Phillies.
FYI to all: Use promotion code
TY2008 at mlb.com for 15% off your entire purchase if you want to order any WS Champs stuff.
jesus christ, Cole Hamels wasnt soft at all. And that Camaro looked great
We booed montgomery too...and then started with the charlie chants.
i still can believe i saw them win in person. last night was just unreal, it's like the game was in fast forward the whole time.
farging farging awesome
My mom told me that the Phoenixville Fire Dept were riding through the streets with the sirens going and the horns blaring half the night....fireworks and people shooting guns all through the night...she said it was crazy in little ol' Phoenixville.
I'm extremely homesick right now
Quote from: Wingspan on October 30, 2008, 09:53:02 AM
We booed montgomery too...and then started with the charlie chants.
i still can believe i saw them win in person. last night was just unreal, it's like the game was in fast forward the whole time.
farging farging awesome
I am pretty damn jealous and for the first time in a few years actually wish I lived near Philly.
I hate being grown up and having to worry about a "job" and shtein.
I was going to fly up for the parade tomorrow but plane tickets are ridiculous right now. I did buy a hat, though. Thanks for the discount code.
Quote from: Rome on October 30, 2008, 10:21:58 AM
I was going to fly up for the parade tomorrow but plane tickets are ridiculous right now. I did buy a hat, though. Thanks for the discount code.
No problem, old man. I don't care what Ed and Jay say about you; you're OK in my book.
WE ARE THE CHAMPS REMIX (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BmvtNkKmEdE) I havent played this since before the SB, and never got to fired it up then.
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consider him AVENGED!
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SI.com
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Thanks, Ed! (https://subs.timeinc.net/SI/si_ws2008.jhtml?experience_id=213390&source_id=6&_requestid=145690&_requestid=145690)
sweet anus
wheels....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=12GNs8ERYL0
farg that rip off highlight dvd from SI.com
they're going to put out a whole set of the entire series...save your money for that.
http://www.newseum.org/todaysfrontpages/flash/default.asp
Lets you see all the front pages
Quote from: BigEd76 on October 30, 2008, 11:17:49 AM
http://www.newseum.org/todaysfrontpages/flash/default.asp
Lets you see all the front pages
Printed a bunch of these this morning. They're now decorating my classroom.
So, when is game 6?
Quote from: BigEd76 on October 30, 2008, 11:17:49 AM
http://www.newseum.org/todaysfrontpages/flash/default.asp
Lets you see all the front pages
AWESOME. ED RULES.
Quote from: Cerevant on October 30, 2008, 11:22:19 AM
So, when is game 6?
I think they are going to give a travel day. Check with Ed. He'd know.
ha
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Any Phillies season ticket holder log in to your account NOW...
i just got passes to citizen bank park for the celebration tomorrow. it's a first come first serve thing....
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Bwahahahahaha.
anyone been on broad since last night? is this stuff cleaned up or are they gonna farg it until after the parade?
More people celebrated last night than the TB Lightning/NJ Devils/TB Bucs parades combined i'd bet
http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/news?slug=ap-bush-worldseries&prov=ap&type=lgns
Bush congratulates Phils on World Series win
2 hours, 45 minutes ago
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Buzz Up
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Print
WASHINGTON (AP)—President Bush has called the president of the Philadelphia Phillies to congratulate the National League team on winning this year's World Series.
White House spokeswoman Dana Perino said that Bush talked to David Montgomery, the Phillies' president, on Thursday morning. She said he "offered his congratulations and said how exciting it must be for him, the team, and for all of the fans."
Perino said that Bush also noted that Phillies manager Charlie Manuel had brought some of the players by the White House last year, and said he was "really impressed" by them. She said Bush asked Montgomery "to give Charlie and the entire organization his best."
Bush once was a part-owner of the Texas Rangers of the American League.
Quote from: MDS on October 30, 2008, 11:56:19 AM
anyone been on broad since last night? is this stuff cleaned up or are they gonna farg it until after the parade?
the news showed them cleaning it up early this morning, it looked much better, they came thru and just got things in order i think
They showed broad and center city on the news this morning and the crews did an amazing job of getting it straight. Kudos to the city.
Quote from: Rome on October 30, 2008, 11:54:40 AM
Bwahahahahaha.
And another:
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i cant even begin to describe how much broken glass, newspapers, over-turned pots with soil everywhere, burned shards of bonfire and other crap was on that street...basically from city hall to the stadium and including 15th, 16th, 13th, 12th. god damn.
it looks like you began to describe it right there
they just announced that the main celebration will be at the bank, and 3 players will be at the linc along with a live videocast of the celebration over there. Gates open at 10 for the linc, The Bank is sending out emails to sth's.
eagle season ticket holders get tickets to the linc for the festivities
I'm just sitting on my computer replaying "We are the champions" on youtube. Feels. So. Good.
I wish I knew what this felt like....
Seriously fellas, congrats. Awesome for the city....now let's get a Super Bowl...please???
No booze at either facility
If any season ticket holders cant make it, PM me :)
Ant and Macnow are drinking champagne and doing toasts to Victorino, Feliz, and Ruiz
No newspapers anywhere. Modells has 10 cashiers on and the line goes from the front of the store to the back, along the wall, and all the way back to the front. It's insane.
Quote from: SD_Eagle on October 30, 2008, 01:51:22 PM
No newspapers anywhere. Modells has 10 cashiers on and the line goes from the front of the store to the back, along the wall, and all the way back to the front. It's insane.
tierney was just on and said 175,000 copies of each should be hitting stores in the next hour
Did he say which stores? I went to two Rite Aids, 3 gas stations, 2 7-11's, 1 Wawa, and 2 supermarkets and they were all out.
they probably havent gotten to the stores yet...he specifically mentioned wawa's but im sure they will be at different spots...keep checkin...he said he thought they would last until like 7 tonight
if you find them can you pick me up one of each...i got feelers out with a bunch of people but i have no idea yet how many if any have scored...if i have extras i can hook other people up
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MufTb-D4AcE
Dude getting rocked by a bottle, ive watched this non stop since 7am, and it makes me laugh every time. Jim Rome talked about it for 20 minutes or so, hilarious
Good read (http://www.philly.com/inquirer/sports/20081030_Gonzo___Suffering_had_to_come_before_thecelebration.html)
QuoteMy pal Fearce has completely short-circuited. He sent me this message: "What do we do? Where do we go? Is there an instructional video on how to celebrate? It's my first time, and I don't want to suck at it."
tickets are available on the phillies website, just click on Citizens bank park under celebration, or Lincon Financial field
ill trade someone four at the linc for two at the bank
Quote from: ice grillin you on October 30, 2008, 02:41:22 PM
they probably havent gotten to the stores yet...he specifically mentioned wawa's but im sure they will be at different spots...keep checkin...he said he thought they would last until like 7 tonight
if you find them can you pick me up one of each...i got feelers out with a bunch of people but i have no idea yet how many if any have scored...if i have extras i can hook other people up
Just went to the same spots and still none. The clerks all gave me a clueless look when I asked about more papers arriving.
just got off the phone with one of my boys and he just got a bunch of daily news at rite aid 20th and fairmount...but no inkys
where are you at up in the northeast?
maybe they are only down closer to center city
How is everyone getting there tomorrow, is anyone gonna try to park around the stadium areas? I was gonna use mass transit but I'm gonna have my daughter with me so that might not be ideal.
I've been walking around with a stupid grin all day. I still can't believe "we" won.
A guy came into the office today and noticed my Phillies logo on the shirt I'm wearing. He goes, "YO, PHILLIESSSSSSSSSS!" and proceded to high-five me across the partition. Turns out he just moved here last week from Turnersville and watched the game last night at Hooters because he didn't know any local sports bars yet.
:-D
Quote from: ice grillin you on October 30, 2008, 03:38:43 PM
just got off the phone with one of my boys and he just got a bunch of daily news at rite aid 20th and fairmount...but no inkys
where are you at up in the northeast?
maybe they are only down closer to center city
Near Byberry, there ain't shtein around here.
might drive up to the airport, and take the train over is what i heard some people are doing from this side
im either coming tonight and parking in south phil or taking the train in the AM
http://cgi.ebay.com/2-Phillies-Celebration-tickets-10-31-Citizens-Bank-Park_W0QQitemZ160295593432QQcmdZViewItem?hash=item160295593432&_trkparms=72%3A1205|39%3A1|66%3A2|65%3A12|240%3A1318&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14
lol, tickets for this are going for 100 bucks
Quote from: Seabiscuit36 on October 30, 2008, 02:53:41 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MufTb-D4AcE
Dude getting rocked by a bottle, ive watched this non stop since 7am, and it makes me laugh every time. Jim Rome talked about it for 20 minutes or so, hilarious
did that guy survive? that sucked. he dropped like a rag doll.
Harry's on WIP now with the bearded ox.
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wearing mine right now!
I took the speedline and subway from haddonfield to game 4 of the world series. it was nuts. I can't imagine it's going to be much better.
i think i am gonna drive and hope to get a spot in the cbp parking lot.
Getting a room tonight near the airport might not be a bad idea. That way parking won't be a problem.
Quote from: Rome on October 30, 2008, 04:34:23 PM
Getting a room tonight near the airport might not be a bad idea. That way parking won't be a problem.
wanna share a room? Red eye to Philly gets me there at 8:00 AM. I'll bring the booze.
OK, the dumb Hawaiian needs some advice here. Is it best to just go ahead and order WS t-shirts, caps, etc from mlb.com or does Modell's have a website? Any other suggestions? I am wearing out the only three Phillies t-shirts and one polo shirt I own. My wife is ready to pour kerosene on them.
leavin NJ around 10am. takin PATCO to either Market or Locust...from there who knows. It's gonna be a phreakin zoo!
I think I'm just gonna catch a train tomorrow morning from here.
easy to just bike there if you lives 10 mins from city hall.
got a daily news, say NO inqs anywhere, but my pops gets it to his house so hes gonna give me his. set-up.
there is a world series shop on like 12th and market, i stopped in there lookin for them gray playoff sweatshirts but them jaws aint real sweatshirt, they ride up on your wrist and arent comfortable. so i dont know. i ordered a why cant us shirt last night, at least that cake goes to als.
game scored 51 rating in philly last night. with bars and parties you had to figure close to 2/3 or 3/4ths of the city was watching.
also c matthews knows what time it is
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Please tell me you guys have seen the video of the 18 year old fan that ran screaming past the CSN camera right after the game....and when whoever it was held the mic to him he stopped screaming and tried to look normal.
farging hilarious :-D
post plz
Quote from: Don Ho on October 30, 2008, 04:43:57 PM
Quote from: Rome on October 30, 2008, 04:34:23 PM
Getting a room tonight near the airport might not be a bad idea. That way parking won't be a problem.
wanna share a room? Red eye to Philly gets me there at 8:00 AM. I'll bring the booze.
I can't fly up. I'd like to but I can't make it.
:'( me either
I've got to order some WS shtein though
Quote from: Don Ho on October 30, 2008, 04:43:57 PM
Quote from: Rome on October 30, 2008, 04:34:23 PM
Getting a room tonight near the airport might not be a bad idea. That way parking won't be a problem.
wanna share a room? Red eye to Philly gets me there at 8:00 AM. I'll bring the booze.
hott
i need to find the Fox feed from last night where the camera guy clearly took a bong hit
Edit: Got two tickets to the Linc, here's the lowdown
QuoteWorld Series Celebration Ticket Opportunity - INTERNET ONLY
Dear Eagles Season Ticket Holder,
We congratulate the 2008 World Series Champion Philadelphia Phillies. The Philadelphia Eagles would like to present a unique opportunity for the fans of Philadelphia. We are pleased to announce that tomorrow's parade route will make an initial stop at Lincoln Financial Field, where the Phillies will address the crowd and present the Championship trophy. Details:
The entire parade, from beginning to end will be shown LIVE on the EagleVision boards in the stadium.
Special appearance by the entire World Series Champion team at Lincoln Financial Field.
Concessions and official World Series merchandise will be available.
Gates open at 10AM and you must present a ticket for admission – tickets must be printed at home or work via TicketMaster TicketFast.
The parade will begin at approximately 12 noon at 20th and Market and make its way to the sports complex. The celebration at the stadium will begin between 1:00 pm to 2:00 pm (estimated time).
The Eagles would like to extend an opportunity for you to receive up to 2 tickets to this special event (WHILE SUPPLIES LAST).
Event: Celebration of Phillies World Championship
Location: Lincoln Financial Field
Date: Friday, October 31
Gates Open: 10:00 AM
Approximate start time: 1:00 pm to 2:00 pm
Please note: Only fans with tickets will be admitted into the stadium for the celebration. Due to limited availability we are only able to offer 2 tickets per account.
THESE TICKETS WILL ONLY BE AVAILABLE ONLINE VIA THE LINK AND PASSWORD PROVIDED BELOW.
Please CLICK HERE and enter PASSWORD: SERIES to take advantage of this offer AS SOON AS POSSIBLE TODAY, Thursday, October 30th. These tickets are first come first served and will be made available to the public at 3pm today.
Delivery of Tickets - Tickets will ONLY be available to print through TicketMaster TicketFast at the time the reservation is completed. You must print these tickets and bring with you to gain admittance.
To order tickets, please follow the steps below:
1.Click on the link below
2.Select your ticket quantity
3.Enter the Season Ticket Holder presale password
4.Purchase tickets
5.Print your tickets via TicketFast
CLICK HERE FOR TICKETS
PASSWORD: SERIES
NOTE: Parking for this event will be very limited, so please plan on using public transportation as much as possible.
http://www.dealtaker.com/Modells-coupon-code-a963-c.html
Modells.com coupons
2nd row on the far right is a $10 off $50+ purchase.
They are also offering free 2nd day shipping. (click on 2nd day shipping to get the offer)
Both offers are good through tomorrow.
I just bought the gray Champs t-shirt and the black flex fit hat for $44.98.
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I Want
Me too
i wonder what time bars are opening in south phil tomorrow...my train gets in at 720 and im trying to put the liver helmet on shortly thereafter...and non guy who would probably show my wife a good times (ie munson) wanna meet up and get some beers pre parade lemme know
http://www.philly.com/philly/blogs/phillygossip/Cole_Hamels_to_read_tonights_Top_Ten_List_on_Letterman.html
Hamels is gonna be on Letterman tonight.
Quote from: ice grillin you on October 30, 2008, 09:36:06 PM
i wonder what time bars are opening in south phil tomorrow...my train gets in at 720 and im trying to put the liver helmet on shortly thereafter...and non guy who would probably show my wife a good times (ie munson) wanna meet up and get some beers pre parade lemme know
what train are you rolling on? We're thinking about hopping on the R2 in newark, de then taking that to the R1, and from what i can tell on Septa's site(which just crashed :-D ) then to 30th street, then the Orange express. Ive never ridden the train from down here up to philly.
Congrats to all the die hard Phillies fans.
i dont know my exact arrival time but i leave bmore at 557 and it takes approx 1:20 to get there...so 715ish?...super early...probably hit the melrose for breakfast and then look for sustinence
nm
Bill Lyon (http://www.philly.com/philly/sports/phillies/20081030_Bill_Lyon__The_team_of_10_000_losses_wins_a_big_one.html)
Quote from: ice grillin you on October 30, 2008, 09:36:06 PM
i wonder what time bars are opening in south phil tomorrow...my train gets in at 720 and im trying to put the liver helmet on shortly thereafter...and non guy who would probably show my wife a good times (ie munson) wanna meet up and get some beers pre parade lemme know
I'll wear a shirt that says Hi Igy just for you.
http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/columns/story?columnist=wojciechowski_gene&id=3672097&sportCat=mlb&lpos=spotlight&lid=tab3pos1
http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/news?slug=jp-worldseriesclincher103008&prov=yhoo&type=lgns (http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/news?slug=jp-worldseriesclincher103008&prov=yhoo&type=lgns)
QuoteAfter it happened, Philadelphia celebrated. As the party raged on the field, two policemen led a handcuffed man down the tunnel outside the Rays clubhouse. He had tried to run onto the field. His best excuse: "They did it in '80." That likely will not hold up in court, though judges sympathetic to Philadelphia's plight may be lenient.
"People here don't forget," Utley said. "They die by their sports."
So the sight of the championship trophy being passed from Rollins to Brett Myers to Jenkins to Utley to Greg Dobbs to Joe Blanton to Scott Eyre to Ryan Howard caused cheer after cheer. Outfielder Shane Victorino's father, Michael, pranced around the field handing out leis straight from their native Hawaii, taking explicit pleasure in crowning retiring Phillies general manager Pat Gillick. Teammates dug up the pitching mound for Jamie Moyer, and Howard took a lap around the stadium with a Phillies flag, and So Taguchi's wife, Emiko, a Japanese TV host fluent in English, spoke for everyone when she said: "Let's get drunk tonight!"
QuoteSo they did, Rollins the leading mouthpiece. He still was chirping an hour after hoisting the trophy, finally getting to his 43 awaiting text messages and reading one out loud, from Eagles quarterback Donovan McNabb: "Congrats, my dude. The streets is hot. Enjoy it for ya boy. We up next."
Ebonics flows from DMac about as naturally as it flows from a white frat boy.
havas i would meet up with you but you choose not to carry a cell, so what the farg you big dumb animal.
cell phones are so 2008
QuoteSo Taguchi's wife, Emiko, a Japanese TV host fluent in English, spoke for everyone when she said: "Let's get drunk tonight!"
TPIWWP
pretty sure I can't believe i'm not going to the parade
pretty sure i cant believe i just got up before 1100 on a friday OH WAIT A fargING PARADE
Quote from: SunMo on October 31, 2008, 08:40:37 AM
pretty sure I can't believe i'm not going to the parade
Whoa. Closing a deal today?
That sucks. I could not NOT go if I lived up there. It took begging, pleading, and bribing from my wife to stop me from going today as it is.
there were already a million people along the route at 10am
My buddy Joe left Sea Isle at 7:00 and got to Lindenwold in 50 minutes. He got on pretty quickly but said the line to go over was at 5 blocks and counting when he got on the train.
PS: I hate all of you who are there right now. HATE.
i had a friend who went to the Lansdale Septa station to take th regional rail down at 8am, it's at 11:30 they texted me saying that they still hadn't gotten on a train and they were bailing
Found this live feed of the parade:
http://abclocal.go.com/wpvi/index
http://csnphilly.com/main.html
MOB SCENE
this is so cool! i have a meeting in one hour but i'm about to call them and say "stuck in traffic".
Wheels on one of the floats! :-D
cool, calm and collect. C'mon Wheels, let's see it!
god i hope they show a clip of Wheels Caveman Dance on the big screen during the celebration.
Quote from: Don Ho on October 31, 2008, 03:21:15 PM
god i hope they show a clip of Wheels Caveman Dance on the big screen during the celebration.
they did it. that was my xmas gift this year! :yay
I decided early this morning that being in the city when they won was good enough...and as much as I would have loved going to the parade, and as much as I love the Phillies....I really want/need my first parade in Philly to be an Eagles Super Bowl win.
So I've been at home watching the coverage all day and it looks awesome/nuts. They're in the stadium now and I'm loving watching these players get their cell phone cameras out to record shtein....it's like they're little kids again watching it happen, and not the ones that made it happen.
Hahaha WOW.
Chase Utley gets up to give his speech to the stadium/on live television....and what does the clean cut good boy do?
"World Champions.......World fargING CHAMPIONS!"
It wasn't bleeped. And It was awesome. ANd the reaction of the rest of the team was priceless.
I want to have Utley's manbabies.
love it! no time to bleep that out.
lovin' all the Mets bashing.
Utley is a farging god. Wow.
That would not fly in MA, but in Philly, he is now an even bigger Human Jesus than he was before.
Quote from: MDS on October 31, 2008, 04:48:09 PM
Utley is a farging god. Wow.
That would not fly in MA, but in Philly, he is now an even bigger Human Jesus than he was before.
yes. any dickwad that complains about that can kiss my ass. these kids heard a lot worse when dad or uncle were letting the expletives fly during the past three weeks.
start printing up the t-shirts!
I hope you all are enjoying this, wish I could be there.
Was at the parade. The float Werth was on stopped next to us and we were against the ropes. A guy next to me was drinking Vodka straight from the bottle and Werth yells "throw it to me!" The guy tosses it onto the float and Werth starts chugging and drives away with it. I have a picture on my camera I'll have to load on here. Awesome. He was blitttzed.
:yay
farg yeah that shtein was awesome.
drove from my boys house in williamstown over the ben franklin with almost no traffic compared to the mob scene that was the walt whitman. we found free parking in 20 minutes on a side road and walked 10 blocks down til we hit that mob scene and trucked our way down to broad and chestnut. it was the perfect place to watch it, all the buses stopped there.
watching the parade made it set in a little more. it was fitting that burrell was first on the horse drawn carriage.
sucks for whoever decided to try and take public transportation. their probably still waiting.
I took the bus from Broad and about Oxford to Vine where they had to let us off. Let this be the last time I ever step foot on a SEPTA bus in my life. Pretty much a bus full of white trash Munsons, old black people who couldn't care less who was in there way, and trashy Puerto Ricans who just got in from Queens.
God damn.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NhF067kZNxA (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NhF067kZNxA)
chase utley "world farging champions"
Chase Utley is forever my favorite Phillie, he almost had it wrapped up but then today he goes and does that. WORLD fargING CHAMPIONS.
Amazing day, we got to the FDR at 830, tailgated all morning until 1230, and walked over to broad, then trucked into the linc for the seats there, the aramark people suck ass it took over a half hour to get farging 2 hotdogs.
Well, that didn't take long... :-D
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Never had so much fun ever in anything. I love you all.
Seriously...the parade today was farging awesome.
I went to a relatives on Snyder Ave.waited there for them to pass. I had a backpack full of beer, that Bruntlet and someone else (i think Happ, i don't know for certian) asked for one, i tossed them the whole backpack (about 15 of them), by the time we got to oregon, I had a WS Hat auto'd by everyone on the float.
Once they turned into the linc..i went to my seats at CBP. teared up at just about everything.
This was just about the greatest day in philly sports history as far as I am concerned.
This was just all day long a blast. I don't think anything will ever top the experience we had today.
WORLD fargING CHAMPIONS!
Well put. This is my first ever parade, and it was all I thought and infinitely more. I dreamed about it for years, and it surpassed even my greatest expectations. The best part? It sounds cheesy, but millions of people in one area just coming together for the same cause. Just unreal. You think you can comprehend 2-3 million people, but you really can't. I didn't get anything signed. Where I was the police were blocking you from going up to them. That probably happened once they got out of the more confined areas.
25 years is a long farging time. After today I can say without any hesitation that the wait was worth what I experienced today and then some.
WORLD fargING CHAMPIONS!
What a day
Enjoyable moment:
I caught the action on Broad and Ellsworth, right on the corner there is predictably a Chinese shop and a Fried Chicken shop. What else would there be?
Anyway, on top of the Chink place there are a few apartments. The top one was this fat guy who was chuggin down bottles of vodka all day to entertain the crowd (might have been water for all I know). Under him was this skeezy fat skank who quickly showed her tits, then needed 5 minutes of egging on and attention before she showed them again. Tits are tits when all is said and done, and it beats seeing someone whip out their cock and pee in the middle of an intersection in broad daylight.
The guy, in an obvious attempt to steer the crowds attention back to him, started downing more bottles and dropping them down to the crowd and such. But he ran out, and then had the genius idea to hold up a McCain/Palin sign. People booed, chanted Obama, then started throwing bottles and shtein up at him. The guy got pissed off, gave several different non-verbal variations of "farg you," and closed his windows shut. What a fat farging baby.
But overall an unbelievable day. Chase Utley is my hero.
And to top it off I saw my old roomates buddy rockin a Carcetti for mayor sweatshirt. I was soooo jealous of him for having that.
i am so happy for those of you who got to attend the festivities. even from 8,000 miles away i enjoyed every minute of it on the comcast feed. it truly felt like i was there.
this is the best. this whole day has really let it start to sink in.
i watched game 5 (Wednesday's version) at my mom's house with the parents, my son, niece and nephew.
what a special moment. my mom called later that night saying how exciting it was and how much fun the kids had watching their uncle go nuts. the whole family was into it and it will be something i will cherish forever.
this is what it's all about folks. embrace all of this for it is truly special. I have waited for what seems like an eternity since 1983 for this day and was it ever worth it.
you people are the best and always keep me in stitches and help me vent about our teams and god knows i need that as my wife is ready to throw me out.
Happy World Champions Day!
Now let's party!!
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Hahaha
Quote from: LBIggle on October 31, 2008, 06:36:54 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NhF067kZNxA (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NhF067kZNxA)
chase utley "world farging champions"
I now must have an Utley jersey johnson joint.
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Muck The Fets
Players reactions to Utley's Fbomb:
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yesterday was the single best day of my entire farging life...absolute insanity...the best part wasnt even the actual floats it was walking down broad to the stadiums following the parade....im not ashamed to admit i teared up multiple times...
shouts to the philly police who basically let you did whatever the hell you wanted...to the people of the greatest city in the entire world...and to jimmy rollins for calling out johan santana and the piece of farging shtein ny mets...jimmy rollins = top 5 all time philly athlete
eat a big fat dick ny
parade >>>>>>>>>>>> being at game 5
Quote from: ice grillin you on November 01, 2008, 12:20:40 PM
parade >>>>>>>>>>>> being at game 5
no
But they were entirely different feelings. Wednesday was the sex....Friday was the afterglow.
Best two days of my sports life were yesterday and wednesday.
Quote from: Wingspan on November 01, 2008, 12:28:44 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on November 01, 2008, 12:20:40 PM
parade >>>>>>>>>>>> being at game 5
no
But they were entirely different feelings. Wednesday was the sex....Friday was the afterglow.
Best two days of my sports life were yesterday and wednesday.
you can honestly say this is the first and only time IGY will be jealous of you.
I agree IGY, best day i can remember EVER. I've never seen so many happy people, not animosity at all, no matter your race, where you grew up, just love and appreciation of a World fargING CHamp.
I felt like a complete puss tearing up, but if you looked around, there were thousands of people in the exact same shoes. Charlie Manuel is forever legend in this town, he didnt farg up at all in the playoffs that i can remember. Burrell was great, just soaking it in, and wherever he goes, he'll always be a Phillie. Utley needs to have a statue made of the speech, and Rollins shteinting on the mets int eh worst way was amazing. I think i have arthritis in my index finger from pointing #1 so much. Thanks Phils, and the best City in the World
One of the best moments for me yesterday was when I finally walked into CBP after following them from Snyder. And I was walking the stadium concourse. I ran into the older guy who had the same season plan as I did and sat across the isle from all season long, immediately we hugged and I was as happy for him as I was for anyone else. He told me that his wife was in the hospital for Game 5.1, and couldnt make the game, only to have been able to go to Game 5v2 to see this.
(Playoff seats were not your normal seats for partial season holders, since in theory 4 other people have your seats)
It's not about being jealous...but being at game 5 was a feeling that just cant be described the rollercoaster of emotion...the thrill, anticipation...the waiting...the jubilance...it doesnt sink in right away, it's impossible...and it took until seeing the floats on friday to really see and finalize your experience from wednesday.
Obviously...yesterday was amazing for every fan, and no one is less of a fan for not being able to get to see a WS in person (something that eagles some season ticket holders like to say). But those who were there to see them clinch it, got their closure at the parade. One was not better than the other...it was just different, and farging amazing. Amazing for everyone...the die-hard fans, the out of town fans, the casual fans....every single one of them was able to celebrate. It's not about saying that one event was better than the other. From the moment of strike three...through yesterday, it was about finally being able to experience an AMAZING 3 days.
World fargING Champions
Someone we know bought World Series merchandise at Modell's yesterday and flew it down with him. Whoever manufactured the hat forgot to put the Phillies insignia on it after they won.
:-D
Needless to say it's going back.
I hope the one I bought on MLB.com isn't farged up like that one.
Also - bought this butta johnson on QVC yesterday...
(http://img517.imageshack.us/img517/5148/c8431dd2.jpg)
It's on waitlist only now.
Quote from: Seabiscuit36 on November 01, 2008, 12:52:13 PM
Quote from: Wingspan on November 01, 2008, 12:28:44 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on November 01, 2008, 12:20:40 PM
parade >>>>>>>>>>>> being at game 5
no
But they were entirely different feelings. Wednesday was the sex....Friday was the afterglow.
Best two days of my sports life were yesterday and wednesday.
you can honestly say this is the first and only time IGY will be jealous of you.
I agree IGY, best day i can remember EVER. I've never seen so many happy people, not animosity at all, no matter your race, where you grew up, just love and appreciation of a World fargING CHamp.
I felt like a complete puss tearing up, but if you looked around, there were thousands of people in the exact same shoes. Charlie Manuel is forever legend in this town, he didnt farg up at all in the playoffs that i can remember. Burrell was great, just soaking it in, and wherever he goes, he'll always be a Phillie. Utley needs to have a statue made of the speech, and Rollins shteinting on the mets int eh worst way was amazing. I think i have arthritis in my index finger from pointing #1 so much. Thanks Phils, and the best City in the World
im jealous because he didnt pay 700 bucks for 3.5 innings....but i was at the game and the parade and the parade owned the game...not that the game wasnt ridiculous
I was at neither but the last three innings of that game were the most intense I've ever experienced in my life a Philly fan. The parade looked awesome, though, but I was there in 1980 and I suspect it was similar.
In all honesty, though, I doubt either would hold a candle to an Eagles Super Bowl parade.
Just sayin'...
who are these eagles you speak of?
Quote from: Rome on November 01, 2008, 07:02:25 AM
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Hahaha
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anyone remember this video? (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zfj0iSSPVTs). Tear jerker looking back and knowing it's all over.
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So happy for everyone here. You guys deserve it. The entire city did. Glad everyone had an amazing time. All the suffering made the last 3 days that much more insane. I don't think it would've been as amazing if I hadn't suffered for so long. Same applies to everyone else.
Quote from: ice grillin you on November 01, 2008, 01:55:30 PM
im jealous because he didnt pay 700 bucks for 3.5 innings....but i was at the game and the parade and the parade owned the game...not that the game wasnt ridiculous
I paid 1600 total for the following: Opening Day, 17 game partial season plan (Which included game 4 of the brewers sweep, game 4 of the dodgers sweep, the division clinching game) then Game 2 of the NLDS (Victorino's GS), game 1 of the NLCS, Game 6 of the NLCS (not played), Game 3 and Game 5 of the WS.
People paid more for 1 WS ticket than I paid for two seats to the entire season...plus postseason. Really, there is no reason to not get season tickets, I actually paid less than that because I sold at least 4 games I couldnt make it to.
I don't believe for a second you were at that game by the way. Who goes to a clinching WS game and then waits 4 days to mention it? ha
yeah because if you dont talk about things on the internet they didnt really happen
but if you really care that much i can give you the phone numbers of the friends i sat with
lolol @ you being upset because you werent the only person on CF that went to the game
trust me when i say this you care way more about me than i do you
you're fairly wrong about that entire post.
nothing new though.
http://www.philly.com/philly/hp/news_update/Phillies_select_Amaro_as_new_GM.html
QuoteThis just in. . .
Ruben Amaro Jr. is the new Phillies general manager.
Sources close to the situation confirmed to the Daily News' Paul Hagen that club president Dave Montgomery met with assistant general manager, scouting and player development Mike Arbuckle yesterday and informed him that he had lost out to Amaro in what had been considered a two-man sweepstakes.
Arbuckle, who was hired by former general manager Lee Thomas before the 1993 season, then informed Montgomery that he will be leaving the organization to pursue other opportunities, the sources continued.
An official announcement is expected Monday.
The decision to hire Amaro, 43, is hardly a shock. There was strong speculation when Pat Gillick was hired three years ago that he was brought in, in part, to mentor the young assistant.
Amaro, who was often presented as the public face of the Phillies front office as Gillick preferred to operate of the spotlight, is heavily involved in many aspects of the organization, including contract negotiations. It was Amaro who introduced closer Brad Lidge and spoke for the organization when the Phillies announced his contract extension earlier this season.
Amaro has strong Phillies ties. His father, Ruben Sr., played for the Phillies and then worked for the team in a number of capacities. Ruben Jr. was a batboy for the Phillies from 1980 through 1983, and also played for the Phils in 1992-93 and 1996-98. He is also bilingual and a graduate of Stanford.
Nevertheless, Arbuckle's qualifications merited strong consideration. One of the first things Montgomery mentioned on the field in the giddy moments of euphoria after the Phillies clinched the team's first World Series title since 1980 on Wednesday night was the "many homegrown players" who had made it possible.
And it was Arbuckle, 58, who supervised the drafts that netted Ryan Howard, Cole Hamels, Chase Utley, Jimmy Rollins, Brett Myers, Pat Burrell and Carlos Ruiz. It was also the system that provided the players (Michael Bourn, Geoff Geary, Mike Costanzo) that allowed Gillick to acquire Brad Lidge last November.
It remains to be seen if others in the scouting and player development department will follow Arbuckle out the door.
Amaro, who has been mentioned as a candidate for several general manager positions over the past few offseasons, will represent the Phillies at the GM meetings in California starting Monday.
Arbuckle would have made a good GM. farg Amaro.
Its no shock that Arbuckle would bolt since he was not named GM.
I really dislike Amaro. He's a latin Joe Banner but with more smugness.
they could name reese gm and i wouldnt care right now...30 hrs ago there was a parade....settle down corksuckers
fact
Quote from: SD_Eagle on November 01, 2008, 02:40:01 PM
anyone remember this video? (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zfj0iSSPVTs). Tear jerker looking back and knowing it's all over.
thank god it ended on a high note as the 2003 NFCCG lowlights of Trash and Pinky doing their Teletubbies impersonation did make me cry.
Quote from: Rome on November 01, 2008, 01:39:10 PM
Someone we know bought World Series merchandise at Modell's yesterday and flew it down with him. Whoever manufactured the hat forgot to put the Phillies insignia on it after they won.
:-D
Needless to say it's going back.
I hope the one I bought on MLB.com isn't farged up like that one.
Also - bought this butta johnson on QVC yesterday...
(http://img517.imageshack.us/img517/5148/c8431dd2.jpg)
It's on waitlist only now.
I missed Victorino on QVC after the parade. shtein! I bet they had some cool stuff.
Now I'm worried as I ordered a bunch ot t-shirts and the WS Champs cap from Modell's online. :paranoid
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Players reaction to Utley's awesome line.
Wheels is the one with his head buried in his hands. :-D
Quote from: ice grillin you on November 01, 2008, 11:17:03 PM
they could name reese gm and i wouldnt care right now...30 hrs ago there was a parade....settle down corksuckers
Never been a more accurate post in the history of forever.
Great, great article by Bill Lyon (big surprise, I know):
QuoteBill Lyon: Phillies and city: A complex marriage
By Bill Lyon
For The Inquirer
It is a fragile, tenuous relationship, this marriage of professional athletes and a defiantly prideful city.
As with most marriages, there is, from time to tempestuous time, broken crockery scattered on the floor, passion wasted on things not worth the price, hurtful words that cannot be recalled, and, on bittersweet occasions, a tearful makeup.
Which brings us to Philadelphia and its baseball team, wed for better or for worse for 126 years now, which is a remarkable - miraculous even - tenure when you think about it.
The city's hard-edged reputation precedes itself, and athletes are wary. Like wolves that smell roasting meat, they circle warily around the campfire, slinking uncertainly about in the shadows, wondering, fretting: "Do I really want to play here, in front of these lynch mobs?"
But every great once in a while, each side is brought to realize the true depth of its marriage. As, for example, when you win a World Series.
Secretly, we glory in our hard-edged reputation. We take a perverse pride in being known as the proving ground of sports, relentlessly demanding, quick to judge, quicker still to root out the slackers and the charlatans.
But beneath that rhino hide of ours lies a marshmallow, gooey, soft, yielding.
You bust a gut trying, you spend your blood and assorted body parts for us, we will melt.
But even we surprise ourselves when the chance comes along. Like, say, a parade of champions. World Series champions. Or, to use the rightly earthy Anglo-Saxon term for fornication as memorably uttered by Chase Utley: World F- Champions.
To a man, the Phillies were overwhelmed by the parade and the reception. They were engulfed by a sea of people. They thought they knew what they would see, but it was so much more sweeping than that.
And they were made to grasp the magnitude of this marriage, made to understand the umbilical cord that binds city and team with an almost mystical force.
"This is way better than I ever expected," manager Charlie Manuel said.
They chant his name now, shout it from the rooftops. Four years ago, he was derided as a clueless country bumpkin. Now, and forever, he will occupy a place in the Hall of Winners.
Such is the power of a championship.
But why? What is the appeal of a band of mercenaries with bat, ball and glove winning a tournament?
It is a civic validation of sorts. We didn't actually win anything ourselves, but our team did, and by extension we did, too. We're not suddenly smarter. Or better looking. But it feels like it, feels like there's pride back in your stride.
And there is the matter of welcome distraction, escapism from all that besets us.
That's the gift players bestow on the city. And the city, in turn, showers them with - well, you've seen the parade pictures.
The players, caught by surprise at the outpouring of affection, try to return it in kind. They pledge their own fealty. They will be a Phillie, and a Philadelphian, 'til the day they die. Promise.
Cole Hamels, who has a perspective to match that killer dead-fish change-up, talked about coming back, old and retired and maybe a little fat, and being accorded the standing ovation and the devotion still showered on the 1980 champions.
Unlike many things in life, this is forever.
Or until the next parade.
Which could be as soon as next year.
The core of this team is, after all, young. There is every reason to think its best ball is still ahead of it.
Hamels said he couldn't wait to float down Broad Street again.
And again.
And again.
For a time, at least, the negativity withers like things dying on the November vines. The marriage between wary player and defiantly prideful city flourishes.
A new dawn?
Consider this sign along the parade route:
"I Promise Never To Boo Again."
Here, that is the highest compliment.
I DVR'd the parade and ceremony, Game 5a and 5b, and the pennant clincher. Had a few beers and watched game 5b and the reception yesterday. Must have replayed the final out 30 times, everytime I got teary eyed like a little Hoyda.
Ha. I keep playing it over and over myself. And yeah, I get a little choked up too. Not Hoyda choked up, though. Hoyda.
Quote from: PhillyGirl on November 01, 2008, 09:50:18 AM
Players reactions to Utley's Fbomb:
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Thanks Phreak...LOL Day late dollar short. :-D
looks like Romero picked a winner
The more I see and read the more envious I am of all of you that were there to celebrate. It was very bittersweet for me when they won, it is really tough not being there. I won't lie I teared up when they won, but then again I have become an emotional Hoyda over the last year.
You couldn't get down because of work or something? Sucks you weren't able to get down man. Hopefully next time a Philly team wins something you can make it down.
Quote from: King Cole on November 02, 2008, 05:01:44 PM
You couldn't get down because of work or something? Sucks you weren't able to get down man. Hopefully next time a Philly team wins something you can make it down.
DMF is kind of out of town. lol
Quote from: PhillyGirl on November 02, 2008, 07:44:39 PM
Quote from: King Cole on November 02, 2008, 05:01:44 PM
You couldn't get down because of work or something? Sucks you weren't able to get down man. Hopefully next time a Philly team wins something you can make it down.
DMF is kind of out of town. lol
that drive would have SUCKED..lol
Wow.
Quote from: Seabiscuit36 on November 02, 2008, 08:22:44 PM
Quote from: PhillyGirl on November 02, 2008, 07:44:39 PM
Quote from: King Cole on November 02, 2008, 05:01:44 PM
You couldn't get down because of work or something? Sucks you weren't able to get down man. Hopefully next time a Philly team wins something you can make it down.
DMF is kind of out of town. lol
that drive would have SUCKED..lol
He could have driven right through Russia, to Palin's house, through Canada, and across... if he were really a die hard like King Cole.
the legend of cole/reese/munson continues......
haha
lol, how am I supposed to know where the guy lives? I assumed at least somewhere in the vicinity of the tri-state area.
you just keep digging that retard hole deeper and deeper...
Eskin claims the Phils had a trade in place back in June or July that would've sent Howard to the Dodgers for James Loney + prospects but the Dodgers backed out.
Once I heard Eskin tease that I knew it was a stone cold mortal lock Easy E had the posts lined up and ready to go on here, EMB, BSG, and the 3,000 other boards he dominates.
nah, nothing on EMB. Besides it's Eskin, although I'm sure they've discussed the possibility of trading him if he gets into the $17M-$20M range...
Quote from: MDS on November 02, 2008, 11:59:34 PM
you just keep digging that retard hole deeper and deeper...
lolz
Quote from: BigEd76 on November 03, 2008, 12:00:54 AM
Eskin claims the Phils had a trade in place back in June or July that would've sent Howard to the Dodgers for James Loney + prospects but the Dodgers backed out.
just heard that on WIP. holy crap. Loney? Dodgers do have a shtein load of prospects.
makes you wonder where Manny would have ended up.
http://losangeles.dodgers.mlb.com/team/player.jsp?player_id=425766
Quote from: BigEd76 on November 03, 2008, 12:00:54 AM
Eskin claims the Phils had a trade in place back in June or July that would've sent Howard to the Dodgers for James Loney + prospects but the Dodgers backed out.
I love how he conveniently brings this up now so he can still seem relevant. Eskin's just mad it wasn't the Eagles that broke the drought.
Quote from: BigEd76 on November 03, 2008, 12:00:54 AM
Eskin claims the Phils had a trade in place back in June or July that would've sent Howard to the Dodgers for James Loney + prospects but the Dodgers backed out.
"You're an idiot...Billy Wagner is NOT coming to Philadelphia."
And that marked the last time Eskin was ever somewhat relevant in Phillies conversation.
Howard to the Dodgers for Loney & prospects?
Wow - that's some impressive shenanigans there.
When do they announce the MVP results?
David Bell got a AA managerial job (http://cincinnati.reds.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20081031&content_id=3657156&vkey=news_cin&fext=.jsp&c_id=cin)
mock
Hamels reads the Top Ten on Letterman (http://philadelphia.phillies.mlb.com/media/video.jsp?mid=200810313656361&c_id=phi)
Quote from: BigEd76 on November 03, 2008, 11:10:05 PM
David Bell got a AA managerial job (http://cincinnati.reds.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20081031&content_id=3657156&vkey=news_cin&fext=.jsp&c_id=cin)
mock
seems like he was a phil so long ago but it was only three years ago.
This is the most comfortable sweatshirt I've ever had:
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if aids was around in the 1700's that what the settlers would have handed the indians
Don't hate.
i have a why cant us shirt and it rules.
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If anyone is ordering off MLB.com i used the code TY2008 and it gave me 15% off
Stores in the area have the paper version of that black Sports Illustrated book for $7.99. Saw a bunch at Acme...
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Quote from: FastFreddie on October 30, 2008, 09:43:51 AM
FYI to all: Use promotion code TY2008 at mlb.com for 15% off your entire purchase if you want to order any WS Champs stuff.
Quote from: Seabiscuit36 on November 09, 2008, 07:22:46 PM
If anyone is ordering off MLB.com i used the code TY2008 and it gave me 15% off
Still works? Holy shtein.
BTW, some of the stuff that wasn't on sale last week is now. Check it out.
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Quote from: FastFreddie on November 09, 2008, 08:04:30 PM
Quote from: FastFreddie on October 30, 2008, 09:43:51 AM
FYI to all: Use promotion code TY2008 at mlb.com for 15% off your entire purchase if you want to order any WS Champs stuff.
Quote from: Seabiscuit36 on November 09, 2008, 07:22:46 PM
If anyone is ordering off MLB.com i used the code TY2008 and it gave me 15% off
Still works? Holy shtein.
BTW, some of the stuff that wasn't on sale last week is now. Check it out.
didnt see that, sorry dick.
Not a bad savings, i got (http://mlb.imageg.net/graphics/product_images/pMLB2-5429176dt.jpg)
a phils hat, and the commemorative world series champs coin
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i dont think he spells his name with an h
Stalker
i thought it was only catholics who added the h, or something like that.
Cole Hamels is a winner.
Pat Burrell, even though he almost had a homer and should have had a triple, is a winner.
Donovan McNabb is a loser.
Andy Reid is fat and should be dead.
Quote from: FastFreddie on November 10, 2008, 12:04:50 AM
Cole Hamels is a winner.
Pat Burrell, even though he almost had a homer and should have had a triple, is a winner.
Donovan McNabb is a loser.
Andy Reid is fat and should be dead.
:-D
reads like a beautiful poem. this belongs on a birthday card or get well card!
Quote from: BigEd76 on November 09, 2008, 07:38:38 PM
Stores in the area have the paper version of that black Sports Illustrated book for $7.99. Saw a bunch at Acme...
(http://i17.ebayimg.com/01/i/001/18/c3/f7cc_1.JPG)
How do you get this copy of SI? My copy of SI that arrived this week had Albert Haynesworth on the cover.
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Found this on a friends facebook.
what exactly passes as a friend for you? guy you know who brings 40's to lame frat parties and hooks up with the nastiest girl there? guy in the trailer next to you who lets you borrow his dip? something like that?
the people with young kids might enjoy this one
Phillies fans will cheer anything (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y7lJpFwAcCs)
Quote from: Don Ho on November 10, 2008, 02:17:37 AMHow do you get this copy of SI? My copy of SI that arrived this week had Albert Haynesworth on the cover.
This one isn't the usual weekly SI. This is a special issue.
that kid was pelted with snowballs shortly after the video stopped
Quote from: BigEd76 on November 13, 2008, 10:14:30 AM
the people with young kids might enjoy this one
Phillies fans will cheer anything (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y7lJpFwAcCs)
Quote from: Don Ho on November 10, 2008, 02:17:37 AMHow do you get this copy of SI? My copy of SI that arrived this week had Albert Haynesworth on the cover.
This one isn't the usual weekly SI. This is a special issue.
i dont think is a special issue...its just a regionalized cover isnt it?
I got you Don, would it be cool if i wait a month and bring it out in December along with the papers?
And i'll get to the post office at some point here Geo. Slowly but surely
Quote from: MDS on November 13, 2008, 09:17:14 AM
what exactly passes as a friend for you? guy you know who brings 40's to lame frat parties and hooks up with the nastiest girl there? guy in the trailer next to you who lets you borrow his dip? something like that?
It was a nerdy jew who thinks he's cool because he writes for the school paper! Lame frats and girls! Lame!
Christ you are a farging charicature of everything I hate.
Quote from: rjs246 on November 13, 2008, 04:23:25 PM
Christ you are a farging charicature of everything I hate.
And you piss and moan like a 40 year old hooker who didn't get paid for the footjob she gave. Grow a sack and stop whining.
Stating the fact that I hate you is not whining. I'm beginning to realize that you don't understand what the definition of that word is. Which is not surprising in any way.
Complaining about people on the internet and how much you "hate" someone you've never met is as bitchmade as Donovan McNabb.
I was niether complaining nor whining. Again you need to work on your basic understanding of common english words.
I was stating that your 'internet personality' is a picture of everything that I hate in people. It's not that hard to understand. But feel free to take your time re-reading it. Let me know when you come up with something interesting to say in response. Or don't, I don't particularly care.
munson dont you have some parliament shorts to search for
Quote from: ice grillin you on November 13, 2008, 04:45:06 PM
munson dont you have some parliament shorts to search for
I don't smoke, IGY. Never have, never will. We've been over this.
Rusty, seriously...just stop. No one cares and no one has cared for a long time who you hate or what annoys you on an internet message board.
Good point. We should probably shut down the internet since no one cares what anyone else has to say. Thank god Munson is here to point out the obvious.
You'd be lost without me.
I heard the Phillies won the series.
Sarge...where the hell have you been?
Here, there and everywhere man.
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I want to take Todd out behind the middle school and get him pregnant
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