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Question: Should the NFL expand the season to 18 games?
Option 1: Yes votes: 5
Option 2: No votes: 11
Title: 18 Game Schedule
Post by: Sgt PSN on September 01, 2010, 10:05:12 PM
 :splat
Title: Re: 18 Game Schedule
Post by: SD on September 01, 2010, 10:11:33 PM
I hate the thought of an 18 game schedule. The league already has enough problems with injuries. Not to mention there's a big divide between the good and bad teams. Aside from the owners greed I don't see how it benefits the players or the fans.

What I can't understand is why they don't have a developmental/minor leagues. Every year players on the bubble get cut and a bunch of college players go undrafted. What better way to do away with the stupid 53 man roster than to have a league of players you're able to call up if an injury occurs. Not to mention, demand for NFL tickets is insane leaving a lot of fans without the opportunity to watch pro ball, so having a minor league would give these fans a chance to watch some real football. The NFL could make a killing on this. I know college football would hate the competition but boo freakin hoo. Have the games through the week so it doesn't interfere (too much) with College saturdays.
Title: Re: 18 Game Schedule
Post by: Diomedes on September 01, 2010, 10:13:16 PM
No.

Just cut two games out of preseason and move on.
Title: Re: 18 Game Schedule
Post by: ice grillin you on September 02, 2010, 07:19:51 AM
as a season ticket holder its not a yes or no question for me

18 is too many games....it also means more overseas games which is a horrific thing

at the same time i think its awesome now that i will only have to pay for one preseason game
Title: Re: 18 Game Schedule
Post by: SunMo on September 02, 2010, 08:23:40 AM
nice poll, i picked both options.


but yes, 18 games would be great.

more football = more gooder.
Title: Re: 18 Game Schedule
Post by: Sgt PSN on September 02, 2010, 09:11:08 AM
ha!  Looks like I forgot to limit the number of answers you can select. 
Title: Re: 18 Game Schedule
Post by: rjs246 on September 02, 2010, 09:24:27 AM
The Oh-shtein-I'm-getting-old-and-read-too-much side of me says that it's an awful idea. More players will get seriously injured making the games less interesting and further farging up the lives of athletes that already face some serious bullshtein post-retirement.

The other side of me says this:

Quote from: SunMo on September 02, 2010, 08:23:40 AM
more football = more gooder.
Title: Re: 18 Game Schedule
Post by: Diomedes on September 02, 2010, 09:27:30 AM
I think more games would mean the end of the season would become like a second pre-season.  Instead of two meaningless games before the playoffs, the dominant teams might face four.  F that.
Title: Re: 18 Game Schedule
Post by: Sgt PSN on September 02, 2010, 09:54:07 AM
Quote from: Diomedes on September 02, 2010, 09:27:30 AM
I think more games would mean the end of the season would become like a second pre-season.  Instead of two meaningless games before the playoffs, the dominant teams might face four.  F that.

This is one thing that I really haven't heard anywhere else and is a good point. 
Title: Re: 18 Game Schedule
Post by: ice grillin you on September 02, 2010, 10:10:45 AM
other than injuries that is the only other reason that i have heard to not expand it

tho you can also flip it the other way and say that a longer season allows teams to stay in it because more teams with bad starts can rebound as you will have more chances to get back in it
Title: Re: 18 Game Schedule
Post by: Sgt PSN on September 02, 2010, 10:16:10 AM
Quote from: ice grillin you on September 02, 2010, 10:10:45 AM
other than injuries that is the only other reason that i have heard to not expand it

I really haven't kept my ears close to the ground on this one.....or much of anything in the sports world over the last 2 weeks other than the Phils.  I catch the last 20 minutes of Mike and Mike and the first 20 minutes of Cowherd so it didn't come up during those 40 minutes, I haven't heard it. 

Title: Re: 18 Game Schedule
Post by: Sgt PSN on September 02, 2010, 10:19:44 AM
When are they looking at adding the games?  2 on the front end, 2 on the back or start a week earlier and end a week later?  If they were to add the extra games, which I'm not in favor of, I would definitely prefer the latter.  Don't really want football starting up around mid-August and don't want the Super Bowl at the end of Feb or beginning of March. 
Title: Re: 18 Game Schedule
Post by: SunMo on September 02, 2010, 10:24:30 AM
they will not start before labor day

the playoffs going through February would be awesome.  February is a terrible sports month and if the NFL playoffs would take it up and run you right to March Madness it's great.
Title: Re: 18 Game Schedule
Post by: ice grillin you on September 02, 2010, 10:26:27 AM
they havent said but i cant imagine them playing any games in the summer and we know they hate labor day...id say 99% they add two weeks on at the end
Title: Re: 18 Game Schedule
Post by: PoopyfaceMcGee on September 02, 2010, 10:45:52 AM
The more I read about this, the more I think it's an awful idea:

-It adds strain to the pending lockout situation, because the players hate the idea.
-Removing pre-season games could be done simply by, well, REMOVING PRE-SEASON GAMES.  Go ahead and increase ticket prices if you think the market will bear it, since each team would have one fewer home pre-season game.  But you know the owners would raise them anyway if they moved two games from the pre-season to the real season.
-There are already too many meaningless games as is.  More games will dilute the product and make every regular season game mean slightly less, along with creating even more end-of-season games that mean nothing.
-The NFL is the most popular pro sport by far.  Why mess with a winning formula?
Title: Re: 18 Game Schedule
Post by: ice grillin you on September 02, 2010, 11:35:58 AM
Quote from: FastFreddie on September 02, 2010, 10:45:52 AM
The more I read about this, the more I think it's an awful idea:

-It adds strain to the pending lockout situation, because the players hate the idea. - if the players get compensated they wont care...its all rhetoric at this point

-Removing pre-season games could be done simply by, well, REMOVING PRE-SEASON GAMES.  Go ahead and increase ticket prices if you think the market will bear it, since each team would have one fewer home pre-season game.  But you know the owners would raise them anyway if they moved two games from the pre-season to the real season. -adding two extra real games at no additional price is actually something the nfl should be getting credit for

-There are already too many meaningless games as is.  More games will dilute the product and make every regular season game mean slightly less, along with creating even more end-of-season games that mean nothing. - i dont think two games will dilute the product much if at all...if it does it will be more in the quality of play not in how much the games will mean

-The NFL is the most popular pro sport by far.  Why mess with a winning formula? - agreed
Title: Re: 18 Game Schedule
Post by: PoopyfaceMcGee on September 02, 2010, 11:50:24 AM
So you disagree with all the specific reasons I gave, but you still ultimately agree that the 18 game schedule is a bad idea, because the NFL is already very popular?

You are one interesting dook, dook.
Title: Re: 18 Game Schedule
Post by: ice grillin you on September 02, 2010, 12:12:02 PM
im against it cause 16 games works perfectly


im for it because i know its not realistic to expect them to give away the money that is associated with two preseason games without replacing the revenue that comes with them...and because of that...the decision to add two more regular season games at no cost to me is more than fair
Title: Re: 18 Game Schedule
Post by: Rome on September 02, 2010, 02:28:55 PM
two more games = two more opportunities to get drunk and get picked up by 22 year-old cocktail waitresses.

Title: Re: 18 Game Schedule
Post by: hbionic on September 02, 2010, 03:16:48 PM
Quote from: Rome on September 02, 2010, 02:28:55 PM
two more games = two more opportunities to get drunk and get picked up by 22 year-old cocktail waitresses.




.....mmmm.....Tiger Woods!
Title: Re: 18 Game Schedule
Post by: charlie on September 03, 2010, 03:12:44 PM
Quote from: Rome on September 02, 2010, 02:28:55 PM
two more games = two more opportunities to get drunk and get picked up by 22 year-old cocktail waitresses.



Because if there is anything 22 year old hot coctail waitresses want to do, is go home with a half drunk football fan with wing grease dripping all over his shirt smelling like miller lite farts.
Title: Re: 18 Game Schedule
Post by: ice grillin you on September 03, 2010, 04:01:16 PM
and you didnt mention creepy and old
Title: Re: 18 Game Schedule
Post by: rjs246 on September 03, 2010, 04:44:38 PM
First of all, anyone who is only half drunk after a game has no business calling themselves a man. Second of all, I don't know what my point is here.
Title: Re: 18 Game Schedule
Post by: lurking wierdo on November 11, 2010, 12:49:17 AM
I am for MY system. limit rosters to 42 players with no in-season replacements. Eliminate the 5 yard chuck rule and the clipping rule, allow face masking and head slaps, encourage violent helmet to helmet contact. Make the season as long as it takes for 2 teams to get down to 22 players. These 2 teams play for the Superbowl.

Although this sounds farcical, who of you doubts that the league would be stocked with players? As long as the money is there, people will play.
Title: Re: 18 Game Schedule
Post by: Sgt PSN on November 11, 2010, 01:41:11 AM
I've got a new beef with the 18 game schedule.  Goodell is concerned about player safety so the rules are changing to reduce the number of big hits in the game.  But he wants to add 2 games to the schedule, which will basically increase the risk for injury.  Doesn't make sense. 
Title: Re: 18 Game Schedule
Post by: Munson on November 11, 2010, 01:46:03 AM
I liked Goodell at first but it's become obvious that all he's worried about is making his name important in the history of the NFL
Title: Re: 18 Game Schedule
Post by: Sgt PSN on November 11, 2010, 02:21:49 AM
The same can be said for any person who rises to the top of any organization.  Everyone wants to put their own stamp on whatever it is that they are heading up.  Goodell is no different than anyone else in that regard.  Unfortunately, he's also no different in terms of never being satisfied with revenue and income generated by his product and is looking for a way to increase profit margins at the expense of product quality (potentially) and employee safety (potentially). 
Title: Re: 18 Game Schedule
Post by: ice grillin you on November 11, 2010, 08:20:32 AM
Quote from: Sgt PSN on November 11, 2010, 01:41:11 AM
I've got a new beef with the 18 game schedule.  Goodell is concerned about player safety so the rules are changing to reduce the number of big hits in the game.  But he wants to add 2 games to the schedule, which will basically increase the risk for injury.  Doesn't make sense. 

its not mine but thats been the beef since jump street regarding expanding the schedule

i dont think you have a new beef as much as you are noticing how blatantly goodell is contridicting himself
Title: Re: 18 Game Schedule
Post by: PoopyfaceMcGee on November 11, 2010, 08:55:03 AM
The desire to expand into Canada and London is infuriating too.  There are already too many teams that have problems selling out.
Title: Re: 18 Game Schedule
Post by: reese125 on November 11, 2010, 10:08:19 AM
Quote from: ice grillin you on November 11, 2010, 08:20:32 AM
Quote from: Sgt PSN on November 11, 2010, 01:41:11 AM
I've got a new beef with the 18 game schedule.  Goodell is concerned about player safety so the rules are changing to reduce the number of big hits in the game.  But he wants to add 2 games to the schedule, which will basically increase the risk for injury.  Doesn't make sense. 

its not mine but thats been the beef since jump street regarding expanding the schedule

i dont think you have a new beef as much as you are noticing how blatantly goodell is contridicting himself

Yeah but his theory (aside from increased revenue of course) is that if he tweaks the hitting rule, changes equipment, less off-season work, etc. then that will lead to a decrease in injury, thus being able to add two more games.

I can't believe it's week 10 already, so at this point I don't care all that much as long as more football is played.
Title: Re: 18 Game Schedule
Post by: Tomahawk on November 11, 2010, 12:48:03 PM
Quote from: FastFreddie on November 11, 2010, 08:55:03 AM
The desire to expand into Canada and London is infuriating too.  There are already too many teams that have problems selling out.

I can understand Canada or Mexico as flight times wouldn't be that much longer, but trying to expand to different continents is stupid.

NFL has it close to perfect right now. I see no reason to expand internationally or add games to a season
Title: Re: 18 Game Schedule
Post by: Diomedes on November 11, 2010, 01:45:47 PM
I think it would be better if they just dropped a couple preseason games and left the rest along.  But I don't really care enough to debate it.