I absolutely love this pick.
Great job.
Ha, gives Goodell a chest bump. didn't drive thru to knock him over though. Booo
Great pick
They gave up a 4th and still have two 3s. Okay, sure, why not.
A little surprised it wasn't Latimer there but I like Matthews a lot. Production + measurables and facing tons of strong coverage.
eh.....boring
another good locker room length guy who blocks...salt of the earth
if im gonna trade up there i don't want a good possession type guy....i want a potential game breaker with big ceiling
NFL.com says:
QuoteCousin of Hall of Famer Jerry Rice.
I think he's got game breaking potential for sure. Productivity baby!
Btw Chip says he's the slot guy.
Quote from: ice grillin you on May 09, 2014, 08:08:22 PM
eh.....boring
another good locker room length guy who blocks...salt of the earth
if im gonna trade up there i don't want a good possession type guy....i want a potential game breaker with big ceiling
He's got size and ran a 4.45. I get what you're saying but he has good athleticism too.
Yeah he should play the slot immediately this year and I would think be fairly effective.
Who wants to bet zero dollars that he finishes the season with more catches than Cooper?
Quote from: General_Failure on May 09, 2014, 08:10:26 PM
NFL.com says:
QuoteCousin of Hall of Famer Jerry Rice.
that does not bode well. DeSean trained with Jerry Rice after the draft, and look how that turned out. Jordan Matthews is going to end up a gangsta now.
He knew Rice way earlier than Jackson did, so he probably already killed three guys.
i have no doubt he will be productive...but hes a possession type wr....also chips system is going to make a wr like this productive not the wr...you can def say they got their guy....i just dont think he was worthy of a trade up...and its the opposite of exciting
Now let's hope Attouchu drops
At Vandy's pro day last month. Someone's got a crush
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QuoteMoneyMarcc91
Congrats @jmattjmattjmatt my dawg! We prayed to be on same team now we are ! God is good
Rome's head hath explodeth
Quote from: BigEd76 on May 09, 2014, 08:29:58 PM
At Vandy's pro day last month. Someone's got a crush
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:-D
Quote@alexmarvez: At @seniorbowl, Matthews woke up @SeniorBowlPhil at 5:50 am asking 4 way to get into video room. Worked like that at Vandy, too. I'm big fan
Quote@PHIEagleFans: Jordan Matthews: "I'm just going to go in and shut my mouth and get to work."
Gotta great feeling about this guy. #FlyEaglesFly
told you....salt of the earth
chip is building a commune not a football team
Chip Davidians?
Smoothies = Kool aid?
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on May 09, 2014, 09:01:44 PM
Chip Davidians?
Smoothies = Kool aid?
come for a ride on the comet kelly-bopp
No truth to the rumor Chip vacationed in Guyana
Quote from: ice grillin you on May 09, 2014, 08:58:36 PM
told you....salt of the earth
chip is building a commune not a football team
Matthews was valued where he went though. He can play. You can talk about upside but he produced in the best conference in football and has good size and ran a good 40. Not sure this fits the talking point of taking a good guy who isn't that talented.
fits it perfectly actually....doesnt matter what he did in college...its how he projects to the nfl and in the league hes gonna be a solid wr who doesn't get much separation nor stretches the field but will be productive...whats really important here tho is two things:
1. length and size
2. will be great in the room and is someone who everyone wishes their son would grow up to be
you forgot
3. good blocker
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on May 09, 2014, 08:27:27 PM
Now let's hope Attouchu drops
Earlier today hbionic told me he really wants Attouchu. I'm not sure where The No-No Place is, but that's where he wants him.
Quote from: Eagaholic on May 09, 2014, 09:47:05 PM
you forgot
3. good blocker
yes this too...which kind of falls into the will do anything for the team great man thing
pete prisco on the pick....i couldn't have said it any better:
QuoteI think there were better options, but Matthews is a good player. He doesn't play as fast as his time, but he will catch a lot of balls in that offense. Trading up with other receivers on the board is a bit of a mystery.
is this avant ?
Better than Avant if he pans out
Quote from: LBIggle on May 09, 2014, 09:53:52 PM
is this avant ?
god no....avant was a stop drop and roll guy.....matthews can move and will have some yac...he just isnt going to stretch the field
totally different body type but as far as his overall game it isnt going to be drastically different from mack...with the exception of going up and getting a ball because of height and long arms....he gonna be a productive guy but not scare anyone
as long as he doesn't have the giroux/avant falling on the ground skills anything can happen.
QuoteAaronRodgers12
Happy for Jordan Matthews, surprised he was around at #42. Good pick up for the eagles. #Vandy
Quote from: ice grillin you on May 09, 2014, 08:58:36 PM
told you....salt of the earth
chip is building a commune not a football team
The People's Temple
Dont be too harsh with your criticism...we have to be cautious of Sunnys feelings
Just for the record, I absolutely love this pick.
Overall I like the pick
Watched as much Matthews and Huff video as I could this morning while I was taking a dump. Matthews is bulkier than I thought. He plays like a big wr. He catches the ball really well in coverage and knows how to use his size. He doesn't get great separation. He's fast in open space but he runs slow routes.
Huff might work well because Chip knows his to use him. He is pretty average overall. Reminds me more of a RB than a wr. His mom tried to bash his head in with a 2x4...so there's that too
In the history of the SEC there's Jordan Matthews and then every other player ever in terms of productivity. And he did it without an excellent quarterback throwing to him.
I'll say it again... LOVE. THIS. PICK.
Quote from: Rome on May 10, 2014, 09:09:16 AM
In the history of the SEC there's Jordan Matthews and then every other player ever in terms of productivity.
the rest of the top ten:
2. earl bennent
3. craig yeast
4. kenny mckinely
5. terrence Edwards
6. chris Edwards
7. chris collins
8. drek abney
9. dj hall
10. anthony white
tim tebow is the all time td leader in the sec
again you cant put to much emphasis on college stats....thats not how the nfl drafts works
We should just ignore what he did on the field for four years and focus on how he performed in a cone drill in Indianapolis. Got it.
you arent looking at what he did on the field you are looking at his stats
should we ignore them totally....probably not....but college stats are incredibly skewed when it comes to transitioning to the nfl
production in the nfl draft means more as you move along in rounds....the earlier you draft the more things like talent size and measurables matter
I understand it's not an exact science and previous performance in college isn't the sole predictor of future performance. If it were then Brandon Graham would be celebrating his fourth straight Pro Bowl appearance and Jerome McDougle would be being prepped for his induction into the Eagles Ring of Honor.
The guys they've taken fit Chip's model for players and judging from the players they've gotten in the last two drafts I'm going to give them the benefit of the doubt here. I'm still salty about the first pick because I believe they could have gotten better value by going up a bit, but all we can do is * hope * they got it right. Sooner or later they're bound to hit the jackpot on some of these clowns they're picking, right?
Quote from: Rome on May 10, 2014, 10:57:51 AM
The guys they've taken fit Chip's model for players and judging from the players they've gotten in the last two drafts I'm going to give them the benefit of the doubt here.
i have no problem with anyone doing this as long as they don't use it as a reason to kill someone else for saying these players as indivduals arent great picks
its whats going to make the next few years so incredibly fascinating...to see how this philosophy of body type and humanism versus talent and individualism plays out
come on Rome, haters gotta hate it's what they do.
There was a Vandy game I was watching last year where Matthews just took over. I don't recall who it was against (maybe Ole Miss) and he just dominated. I think that was the game where he was cramping really bad or something and he'd go down and out for a play and then come right back in to make a huge play. That's when I was sold on him.
Saw him destroy Houston in their bowl game this year, had no clue who he was but he was making the entire Houston backfield look terrible.
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igs' favorite draft pick now
He wears his hats the same way gang people do.
That can't be coincidence. Clearly, he's too much of a risk for a billion dollar organization to tolerate.
That's the oldest twelve year old I've ever seen.
who got the props who got the props five F T evil dee and buckshot
Quote from: Sgt PSN on May 18, 2014, 09:32:22 AM
He wears his hats the same way gang people do.
You mean he wears it black?
That's a light grey hat, dummy.
Quote from: hbionic on May 18, 2014, 10:05:49 PM
Quote from: Sgt PSN on May 18, 2014, 09:32:22 AM
He wears his hats the same way gang people do.
You mean he wears it black?
No, I mean he wears it Mexican.
Backwards in front of a Home Depot?
hahaha.
just look at the first word of the top four threads on this page
jordan
beau
connor
taylor
is chip putting together a lacrosse squad or an nfl team
jesus
They should pick guys with more gangsta appeal...
Like Aaron, Rae or Orenthal.
Quote from: Rome on May 20, 2014, 09:07:57 AM
They should pick guys with more gangsta appeal...
Like Aaron
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it must just be me...i guess im insane
but yes id rather have oj simpson or ray lewis than beau taylor
I was referring to Rae Carruth, hence the RAE.
And they already have a back that is equal to Mr. Nicole Brown.
so youd rather have dane connor than oj simpson because they have shady as a rb...and i wont even get into the insanity of thinking shady is as good as oj....thats not even the point
i thought banners swirly lolipop was strong....chipper got this whole fanbase under his spell in like six months....im not even being sarcastic when i say how impressed i am....its unreal
please tell me you realize that they didn't choose their own names.
He's on a roll....let 'im go
Quote from: phattymatty on May 20, 2014, 10:07:43 AM
please tell me you realize that they didn't choose their own names.
:-D
Quote from: phattymatty on May 20, 2014, 10:07:43 AM
please tell me you realize that they didn't choose their own names.
its even worse than that....the people who named them also supplied them with their genes
its not as important as the look test but the name test holds weight
Aaron
Ben
Tom
Peyton
Russell
Doug
Joe
Yep, give me beau, taylor, Jordan, and Connor.
igy hates the the white guys like the other cf hates the black guys
reggie, randall, clyde and seth sound like a bunch of farging nerds too so i don't think discovery holds much weight.
reggie could be the blackest name ever
jewey seth is the only questionmark name in that bunch and its not even that lacrossy
of course theres gonna be exceptions...but you arent gonna find too many dawgs named spencer or brock
Lou Brock?
with speed he was agile plus worth your while....100% intelligent black child
yo adrian peterson, you have a girls name
jerry rice? my uncles name is jerry. jerry seinfeld. jerry lewis. jewey jerry.
Quote from: ice grillin you on May 20, 2014, 01:52:37 PMreggie could be the blackest name ever
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Unfortunatley this may have been the first Reggie. 90% of you probably have no idea who this is.
I work with a black guy named Reggie. He's not really "street black" but he has just enough hood in him to make all the white people around here nervous.
So taller than 6'2 and doesn't pass the paper bag test?
Quote from: phattymatty on May 20, 2014, 10:07:43 AM
please tell me you realize that they didn't choose their own names.
hahaha
Quote from: Sgt PSN on May 20, 2014, 04:34:23 PM
I work with a black guy named Reggie. He's not really "street black" but he has just enough hood in him to make all the white people around here nervous.
lol.....so the least threatening black reggie ever will still kill any white dood?
locked and loaded
Hearing good things about Jordan's work ethic.
BUT HIS fargING NAME IS JORDAN! WHAT KIND OF ATHLETE HAS A NAME LIKE THAT?
lol.
Jimmy Kempski said he looks like the best WR on the team now and it isn't close. I suppose that isn't necessarily saying a lot though but it is still good to hear.
I'm leading the farging bandwagon on this dude - he's gonna be a badass
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on June 10, 2014, 07:51:14 PM
I'm leading the farging bandwagon on this dude - he's gonna be a badass
He's mine, motherfarger. Back off.
Fight me! Now!
Put on your lacrosse gear, Connor.
It's go time.
Haha you have me confused with rjs....see his Prius is parked over there loaded with lax gear
I've coached three Conors over the last four years.
I played foosball with one and his brother Jackson at the YMCA on Sunday.
I got a friend named Reggie who lives down at the dump. Every other week I swing by and bring him some lunch.
Reggie. That name sounds familiar.
WR. Reggie....blanking on it. He was an Eagle for a few minutes and then couldn't hang on anywhere else.
Brown?
What happened to him?
Last i saw he played for the bengals for a bit, then tampa, and game over. He actually could be a valid comparison to what Matthews is coming in, except Matthews doesnt have the knee problems Reggie had.
There's so much enthusiasm about this guy that I assume he'll be out of the league in three years.
He's on the back page of the DN today...
I think he's legit but I would be lying if I didn't think of Billy McMullen and Reggie Brown with the hype he's getting
i think a llama could catch 60 balls in chips offense....he will be a productive wr as long as he plays here and perhpas anywhere else as well.....but the best WR ever talk is a little much
what is really hard to project and the X factor is how much does he get in the end zone...he scores 9-10 td's a year then obviously he goes to another level
I'll just say, a Kid who has work ethic tends to do well immediately as a WR in this league in general.
pretty much 99.9% of the wr's to ever play have work ethic....you dont make the nfl if you dont
such an overrated thing
Grit > work ethic
Quote from: ice grillin you on June 11, 2014, 09:48:20 AMpretty much 99.9% of the wr's to ever play have work ethic....you dont make the nfl if you dont
Ah...no. Plenty make the NFL without decent work ethic.
really......they dont
do they all have the same amount of work ethic no...but they all have work ethic off the charts....you cant be one of the .00000001 people on earth who become nfl players and not have work ethic
Of course you can. It happens every year. You can't stick in the NFL without it, but damn sure you can get in on talent alone. Plenty of college players were the best on every team they were ever on, including college, and didn't have to work much for it. They cruise through until they get to the pros, and then shtein gets real.
but you dont become the best without work ethic
forget super athletes that play high school sports and never pan out in college....do you know how many athletically gifted kids dont even play sports in high school?
You don't become Jerry Rice without work ethic, true.
You do become FredEx or Titus Young, or any number of other players who were literally better football players than anyone on their team, or on opposing teams, with perhaps two or three exceptions, until they landed in the NFL.
I'm surprised you disagree. How anyone could think that the guys drafted each year got there on hard work, confuses me.
Quote from: Diomedes on June 11, 2014, 11:07:27 AM
I'm surprised you disagree.
Lol
Heard nothing but rave reviews about Matthews. I'm happy they drafted a wr with size.
Quote from: rjs246 on June 10, 2014, 09:22:00 PM
I've touched three Conors over the last four years.
:sly
Quote from: SD on June 11, 2014, 11:12:20 AM
Lol
Seriously. IGY has convinced himself that he isn't a troll in one of the greatest cases of willful congitive dissonance in history, but he lives to disagree with people and spout contrary opinions for their own sake, even when they contradict his own previous opinions. Frankly I'm surprised that this needed to be pointed out to Dio.
when you are wrong you are wrong
and to think a player can make the nfl with no work ethic is as absurd as it gets
I am in the middle of reading "Talent is Overrated". I am not so sure the saying applies very well to rookies in the NFL. They may have been forced to go thru some sick camps, but that doesn't mean someone has great work ethic. The laziest horse runs like hell when it feels the whip.
Quote from: Chameleon on June 11, 2014, 12:36:01 PM
I am in the middle of reading "Talent is Overrated". I am not so sure the saying applies very well to rookies in the NFL. They may have been forced to go thru some sick camps, but that doesn't mean someone has great work ethic. The laziest horse runs like hell when it feels the whip.
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lol
Laughing on forums, Hoydas in real life.
I am right. You can infer that I am a racist all you want.
Quote from: Chameleon on June 11, 2014, 12:36:01 PM
I am in the middle of reading "Talent is Overrated". I am not so sure the saying applies very well to rookies in the NFL. They may have been forced to go thru some sick camps, but that doesn't mean someone has great work ethic. The laziest horse runs like hell when it feels the whip.
Same as in racehorses, Mortimer, it's in the blood.
For a second...when this conversation turned to 'Matthews'...I sat there and thought, "Who the farg is Matthews"...then I remembered, it's the same guy we were talking about the whole time.
Maybe names aren't the best way to identify ourselves individually...maybe we should come up with another system. :paranoid
Let me guess, your new system involves nutsack juices and yodeling.
i think this kid is going to light it up in his rookie season. light it up.
Jordan Matthews : 44rec, 558yds, 6tds
All WR's taken before:
Odell Beckam Jr: 31rec, 463yds, 3tds
Sammy Watkins: 45rec, 649yds, 5tds
Mike Evans: 46rec, 794yds, 7tds
Brandin Cooks: 53rec, 550yds, 3tds
Kelvin Benjamin: 52rec, 768yds, 8tds
Marques Lee: 13rec, 141yds, 0tds
what stands out there is how much the nfl has changed....first round wr's used to have to wait till like year three to start putting up numbers like those....the league is a video game now
also i think marquis lee is the only wr on that list id take matthews over...of course its not 100% fair to compare the X and Y
Quote from: ice grillin you on November 21, 2014, 10:45:15 AM
what stands out there is how much the nfl has changed....first round wr's used to have to wait till like year three to start putting up numbers like those....the league is a video game now
Yup. Occasionally you'd get a guy like Moss who could tear shtein up right away, but WR and QB were 2 positions that required a year or 2 of "grooming" before they'd get significant playing time. The mindset used to be that RBs can start right away but QB and WR needed time to learn. The league rules have shifted so dramatically to favor the passing game that you've got a surplus of rookie QB and WR making impacts from day 1.
Quotealso i think marquis lee is the only wr on that list id take matthews over...of course its not 100% fair to compare the X and Y
Eh, it's hard to say. I think any of those guys would look really good in Chip's offense.
thats kind of my point...matthews is putting up good numbers in the chipstem and he has the least talent of anyone on that list
i wanted bejamin last year bad in the first
I totally misread that comment......for some reason I thought you were saying that Lee was the only guy you'd take over Matthews. Not sure how I jumbled that one up.....probably due to my being an idiot.
Watkins or Beckam in this offense would give me infinite bonerz.
Quote from: ice grillin you on November 21, 2014, 11:10:10 AM
thats kind of my point...matthews is putting up good numbers in the chipstem and he has the least talent of anyone on that list
i wanted bejamin last year bad in the first
I'd take Matthews over Lee, has nothing to do with stats I just think he's really mediocre. In a normal world I'd rather have Benjamin over Matthews, in Chip's offense I'd take Matthews. He runs better in space and is more physical. Benjamin can go up and catch passes with the best of them but he's not as good in space.
I am happy with Matthews - but then again I wanted him from the get go...
I wanted Evans or OBJr going into the draft. Evans has outperformed even what I expected and Beckham is going to be insane - I think if used correctly maybe best WR in the class.
Matthews has been fine. No problem with him besides random drops, but his ceiling isn't the same as most on that list.
Quote from: SD on November 21, 2014, 11:30:40 AM
Quote from: ice grillin you on November 21, 2014, 11:10:10 AM
thats kind of my point...matthews is putting up good numbers in the chipstem and he has the least talent of anyone on that list
i wanted bejamin last year bad in the first
I'd take Matthews over Lee, has nothing to do with stats I just think he's really mediocre. In a normal world I'd rather have Benjamin over Matthews, in Chip's offense I'd take Matthews. He runs better in space and is more physical. Benjamin can go up and catch passes with the best of them but he's not as good in space.
thats what i mean by it not being really fair to compare the slot to the outside...benjamin isnt expected to run in space...and matthews isnt being told to go up and get balls or run down the field.....overall tho it think benjamin has a much bigger upside....matthews i think can always be really productive but benjamin can be a game changer
I wouldn't want Lee, mostly because of injury concerns. If Benjamin was a good camper type pretty good chance Chip would have taken him if he could. Nice compilation of stats SD, I've been wondering how they all compare. It also has to be taken into account that Matthews has been on a team that may by the end of the season have 100 - 200 more plays than some other teams like the Bucs, Bills and Panthers. That skews the numbers a bit, but of course Matthews was drafted later so maybe it evens out.
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Makes sense, he knows the system and him and Wentz are tight. I was glad when they got rid of him because I thought Wentz was too comfortable throwing to him over the middle instead of trying to stretch the field, but in this current predicament he's as good as they're going to get.
Yep - all things considered this move is about the best they could do.
do him and wentz have circle jerks in church or what
https://twitter.com/jmattjmattjmatt/status/1042345095813623808
He's mediocre. He's an improvement for the time being, however.
Get well soon, Alshon.
Assuming his hamstring works and he's not supposed to be a #1 WR, this is fine.
Quotethen she got pregnant. So we always say we have a Buffalo baby. There's nothing to do there, except each other.
Holy shtein ouch.
take 3?
The answer they've been looking for. That should set them up nicely for the playoff run.
But seriously though, if he can still catch they should immediately make him the #1 WR.
was torrance small unavailable
This is a joke right?
If this doesn't say we're raising the white flag nothing does.
I'm out
It's not like star receivers are just sitting on the waiver wire for anyone to claim.
Carson needs his blankey?
Quote from: MDS on November 05, 2019, 03:45:59 PM
was torrance small unavailable
Word is they asked Torrey Smith to come out of retirement
Glad they wasted a 2nd round pick on a slow wr who was projected to go in the late 3rd/4th
Why not just sign AB. They have cap room. Sure he's nuts, but maybe Peters can keep him in line. TO didn't go nutso until year two.
Could you imagine a team that had both AB and Josh Gordon?
Quote from: AO1 on November 05, 2019, 07:47:51 PM
Why not just sign AB. They have cap room. Sure he's nuts, but maybe Peters can keep him in line. TO didn't go nutso until year two.
"nuts" = sexual assault
He passed the nuts train a long time ago. He's full blown bat shtein crazy now.
Oh and he likes to jerk off onto unsuspecting females backs
Quote from: MDS on November 05, 2019, 08:40:24 PM
Quote from: AO1 on November 05, 2019, 07:47:51 PM
Why not just sign AB. They have cap room. Sure he's nuts, but maybe Peters can keep him in line. TO didn't go nutso until year two.
"nuts" = sexual assault
Alleged
AB is beyond a piece of garbage...as low quality a person as you can find. want him nowhere near my life or my workplace.
josh gordon though. insane they didnt claim him.
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on November 05, 2019, 09:09:44 PM
He passed the nuts train a long time ago. He's full blown bat shtein crazy now.
Oh and he likes to jerk off onto unsuspecting females backs
Well, he was on The Masked Singer.
Jadevon clowney
Minka Fitzpatrick
Jordan Matthews
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sunday: plays 96% of snaps
monday: cut, again
AB AB AB AB AB
see you week 3 2020 JM
^^^that^^^