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Title: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Father Demon on February 14, 2008, 05:58:11 PM
seems there's enough of them...

Northern Illinois University (http://www.cnn.com/2008/US/02/14/university.shooting/index.html)

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At least two people have been shot and several injured shortly before 4 p.m. CT at Northern Illinois University outside Chicago, CNN affiliates are reporting.

The gunman who opened fire in Cole Hall, a lecture building, is dead according to DeKalb police, the Chicago Sun-Times is reporting.

This says no fatalities known at this time, but on another site I had heard maybe up to four dead, including the gunman. 
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: hbionic on February 14, 2008, 06:01:36 PM
I picked a great time to go back to school.  :-\
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Diomedes on February 14, 2008, 06:02:31 PM
As long as people have guns, this will happen.

Yawn.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Seabiscuit36 on February 14, 2008, 06:06:16 PM
Everyone should carry a SAW with them, its the american way
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Father Demon on February 14, 2008, 06:08:31 PM
Dio, are you anti-gun?

Serious question.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: MDS on February 14, 2008, 06:37:36 PM
at least the shootings at temple take place off campus, so no one really notices.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Diomedes on February 14, 2008, 06:39:29 PM
Quote from: Father Demon on February 14, 2008, 06:08:31 PM
Dio, are you anti-gun?

Serious question.

Serious answer...no.

As a practical matter, they'll never be gotten rid of, so I'm not looking for the government to try to sieze all guns.  Moreover, I think it's good sense to allow shotguns, rifles, and even revolvers.  I think shotguns are the perfect tool (after a big dog or two) for home self defense, and rifles ought to be allowed for hunting (they are useless for self defense).  I guess revolvers are okay too, but I'm on the fence a bit there...so much damage done because you can pocket it...but hell, youv'e only got six shots, so I'd allow 'em.

Everything else should be restricted to police and military.  To be clear, I fully support banning anything but rifles, shotguns, and revolvers.

I am not worried about the government using the military to attack us; the "to protect us against the government" argument is ridiculous.  First, I just don't see DMF turning his M-16 on American civilians just because his commander tells him to.   Not even on protestors, Kent State notwithstanding.  Second, if he DID submit to such an order, so would the dudes with the remote control missile bearing airplanes, which would annihilate citizens in America just as effectively as those in Iraq, even if they do have M-16s.  So I reject that argument.

The technology available at the time did not allow the founding fathers to imagine a world of automatic pistols you can hide in your pocket.  It is one of the most out-dated parts of the U.S. Constitution, an otherwise awesome document.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: SunMo on February 14, 2008, 06:51:06 PM
ok, funny answer now
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Diomedes on February 14, 2008, 06:55:05 PM
I'm not PG; I can't be funny on demand.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: SunMo on February 14, 2008, 06:59:19 PM
haha, good enough
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Geowhizzer on February 14, 2008, 07:27:03 PM
I'm pretty much in full agreement with Dio on this one.  I can see owning shotguns, and even to some degree handguns, for purposes of hunting or protection of family and property.  But there is no need for the average citizen to own assault rifles and the like.

I'm also in favor of compulsory classes and background checks before being allowed to own guns.   
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on February 14, 2008, 07:29:36 PM
Agreed.

Handguns, shotguns and rifles = fine.

Fully automatic weapons, armor piercing rounds and the like = police/military only

I always think back to those nuts in LA a few years ago who robbed that bank and then walked down the street in body armor smokin people left and right.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Diomedes on February 14, 2008, 07:33:49 PM
It was recently the anniversary of that event.

Also, I think the NRA does very good work with the gun safety classes.  Regarding the rest of their agenda, I think they ought to be shot.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Father Demon on February 14, 2008, 07:48:05 PM
I am also in agreement with Dio on this one. 

But the argument about outlawing guns (or certain kinds of guns) means only outlaws will have them.  Chances are very low I'll ever be one on one with an automatic-weapon armed dude and I only have a revolver, but if it happened I would get smoked.

But, with the chances so remote, I'm in agreement with certain restrictions.

Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Seabiscuit36 on February 14, 2008, 08:03:08 PM
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on February 14, 2008, 07:29:36 PM
Agreed.

Handguns, shotguns and rifles = fine.

Fully automatic weapons, armor piercing rounds and the like = police/military only

I always think back to those nuts in LA a few years ago who robbed that bank and then walked down the street in body armor smokin people left and right.
When the zombies come, do you want a shotty or a SAW with armor piercing rounds? 

The bank of america robbery with the auto weapons w/armor piercing rounds and sewn together bullet proof vests really was an amazing robbery, plus those guys were hopped up on pcp or some drug. 

The problem is just like handguns, you can control the legal purchasers, but for the street, there is a different law and market. 
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Diomedes on February 14, 2008, 08:04:44 PM
Depends on your skills...if you know how to use your weapon, the fact your opponent can spray bullets don't matter.

Furthermore, if we outlaw the guns I'm talking about, then it's a matter of attrition....once they are no longer sold, every one of them taken out of ciruclation by whatever means is a tangible gain in public safety.  Eventually, even thugs won't have them.  Granted, 'eventually' here means many years, but what the farg, it's worth getting started on, I think.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: phillymic2000 on February 14, 2008, 08:14:36 PM
Holy crap NIU is only about 35-40mins from me. One of my employees goes to school there, luckilyfor him he has night classes. 4 dead and 17 injured according to CNN a couple of minutes ago.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: phillymic2000 on February 14, 2008, 08:15:54 PM
just went back to CNN and now it is 5 dead, what a  shame:

http://www.cnn.com/2008/US/02/14/university.shooting/index.html
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: methdeez on February 14, 2008, 08:18:47 PM
In many parts of the county it is a hell of a lot easier to get a gun than a  fishing liscence.
Splains that to me.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Diomedes on February 14, 2008, 08:26:37 PM
PETA is strong in those places, obviously.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Diomedes on February 14, 2008, 09:40:08 PM
I'm sure I'm not the first to say this, but whatever. I find it interesting that the news media erupts with coverage when the dead count is 5 or 6 or15 in one event, but when it's 1 or 2 a day in similarly small geographic area constantly, it gets no national press.  Too much to report on, I guess.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: ice grillin you on February 15, 2008, 09:48:33 AM
Quote from: Seabiscuit36 on February 14, 2008, 08:03:08 PM
The problem is just like handguns, you can control the legal purchasers. 


that didnt work out to well in the VT shootings
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Seabiscuit36 on February 15, 2008, 01:35:17 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on February 15, 2008, 09:48:33 AM
Quote from: Seabiscuit36 on February 14, 2008, 08:03:08 PM
The problem is just like handguns, you can control the legal purchasers. 


that didnt work out to well in the VT shootings

The problem with that was if i remembe correctly, Cho was sent to therapy, or had to be evaluated mentally.  I do think that if you at any time are sent to, or have had to been treated for mental issues, there should be a reporting system in place.  I know that when i got my handgun and license, i had to sign 3 different places that i have not been in a mental institution, nor had any mental breakdowns or something to that effect.  The problem is right now there is no concrete way to prove that someone isnt lying.  The problem is rights of those, and doctors providing information to the gubament about one's mental state. 

Its a broken system but full scale banning of guns is a stupid idea. 
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Seabiscuit36 on February 15, 2008, 03:24:20 PM
(http://i.l.cnn.net/cnn/2008/US/02/15/university.shooting/t1home.niu.shooter.ap.jpg) He was reported off his meds, i'm guess this pic was when he was on his meds. 
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: mussa on February 15, 2008, 03:27:10 PM
he got all the attention he's ever wanted now. freak
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Dillen on February 15, 2008, 03:28:18 PM
Last night on the History Channel was something on the St Valentines Day Massacre in 1929. After that was supposed to be Snipers which seemingly would be awesome. They replaced it with some stupid shtein and I was pissed.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Father Demon on March 03, 2008, 10:25:01 PM
6 Killed in Memphis shooting (http://www.cnn.com/2008/US/03/03/memphis.killings/index.html?eref=rss_topstories)

He must have been at least a Level 21.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on July 23, 2008, 11:58:19 PM
http://www.esquire.com/features/steven-kazmierczak-0808

Article in Esquire about the guy from NIU. A long read, but pretty good and interesting.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: ATV on July 24, 2008, 12:25:40 AM
This is another school shooting incident that was completely fabricated. As we all know, "guns don't kill people, people kill people". I find it hard to believe that anybody could massacre that many people without a gun. Never happened.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Seabiscuit36 on July 24, 2008, 12:30:40 AM
I'd love to massacre you and your family with my gun
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: rjs246 on July 24, 2008, 08:53:56 AM
ATV needs to go away.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: PoopyfaceMcGee on July 24, 2008, 08:55:01 AM
What's not to love about an "ex" skins fan that is only rivaled by Cerevant in his unbridled love for Obama?
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: ice grillin you on July 24, 2008, 08:59:23 AM
hes right tho
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: rjs246 on July 24, 2008, 09:08:38 AM
Sure he is. Boo hoo, guns killed all of those people. Evil deranged guns decided to turn themselves on the populace and it's all because we let those guns exist. We'd never find ways to kill people en masse without those evil guns.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: PoopyfaceMcGee on July 24, 2008, 09:13:56 AM
Making guns impossible for law-abiding citizens to get means that only three types of entities would have firepower:

Police (Feds on down)
Military
Criminals

I'm all for reasonable controls, but those that think you can take guns out of circulation to prevent crime are laughable.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Diomedes on July 24, 2008, 09:14:00 AM
Quote from: rjs246 on July 24, 2008, 09:08:38 AMWe'd never find ways to kill people en masse without those evil guns.

you're rhetoric is well taken up until this point, where you can't be serious

please to explain to me how a couple high school kids are gonna kill a dozen and injure two dozen more, or how one college kid could kill 30+, without the guns? 




a suicide bomb?  We get so many of those here...maybe the easy access to guns is preventing a rash of suicide bombings in the U.S.?
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: rjs246 on July 24, 2008, 09:16:00 AM
I'm not trying to convince anyone of anything. I'm simply saying that you will never convince me that guns are the problem. People are the problem. (http://www.usatoday.com/news/world/2008-06-08-stabbing-tokyo_N.htm) And if they want to go on a murdering spree and kill 30, 40 or 50 people all they have to do is hop in their car and run down some pedestrians. Preferrably in Boston. Are we going to outlaw cars too?
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Rome on July 24, 2008, 09:17:12 AM
Just Priuses.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Zanshin on July 24, 2008, 09:19:18 AM
I hate getting involved in these conversations...but it still beats work.

If guns were illegal, it wouldn't mean that guns didn't exist.  There will always be ways to get guns, if you want guns.  

Other than that, it's ridiculously easy to make bombs.  And beyond that, blades would work for someone who knew how to use them.  
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: ice grillin you on July 24, 2008, 09:21:16 AM
Quote from: FastFreddie on July 24, 2008, 09:13:56 AM
Making guns impossible for law-abiding citizens to get means that only three types of entities would have firepower:

Police (Feds on down)
Military
Criminals

I'm all for reasonable controls, but those that think you can take guns out of circulation to prevent crime are laughable.

im not even talking about banning guns or gun control for that matter...this country is so farged up in that area and the nra is so powerful that i dont even pretend that theres any chance of real gun control ever happening...its not even an important issue for me

but the fact is more guns = more people get killed by guns
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Zanshin on July 24, 2008, 09:23:52 AM
Quote from: ice grillin you on July 24, 2008, 09:21:16 AM
Quote from: FastFreddie on July 24, 2008, 09:13:56 AM
Making guns impossible for law-abiding citizens to get means that only three types of entities would have firepower:

Police (Feds on down)
Military
Criminals

I'm all for reasonable controls, but those that think you can take guns out of circulation to prevent crime are laughable.

im not even talking about banning guns or gun control for that matter...this country is so farged up in that area and the nra is so powerful that i dont even pretend that theres any chance of real gun control ever happening...its not even an important issue for me

but the fact is more guns = more people get killed by guns

Sarcasm aside, I wonder if less guns would equate to fewer killings.  Obviously, less guns should mean less shooting deaths...but it wouldn't necessarily mean fewer killings.  Would be an interesting study.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Diomedes on July 24, 2008, 09:24:57 AM
yeah, there are so many mass murders via stabbings and bombs and cars in those countries which have banned guns...

it's a round robin argument with no end, I admit, and one I really don't care too much about having because in this country, it's already settled.  we are married to guns, divorce is not possible.  And it's an ugly marriage, but oh well, we're too busy thinking about the kids. 

Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: rjs246 on July 24, 2008, 09:26:25 AM
So can we all just agree to ban ATV and be done with it?
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Diomedes on July 24, 2008, 09:26:29 AM
You know, on the "ban guns" tip...if the only people who are allowed to have them are law enforcement and military, that would make it pretty easy to round 'em up....anyone with a gun is a criminal.  in a few decades, there would be almost no guns on the street.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: rjs246 on July 24, 2008, 09:27:49 AM
Why would you want to make otherwise law-abiding citizens into criminals? Sounds exactly like the marijuana argument to me...
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: ice grillin you on July 24, 2008, 09:29:43 AM
Quote from: Zanshin on July 24, 2008, 09:23:52 AM
Quote from: ice grillin you on July 24, 2008, 09:21:16 AM
Quote from: FastFreddie on July 24, 2008, 09:13:56 AM
Making guns impossible for law-abiding citizens to get means that only three types of entities would have firepower:

Police (Feds on down)
Military
Criminals

I'm all for reasonable controls, but those that think you can take guns out of circulation to prevent crime are laughable.

im not even talking about banning guns or gun control for that matter...this country is so farged up in that area and the nra is so powerful that i dont even pretend that theres any chance of real gun control ever happening...its not even an important issue for me

but the fact is more guns = more people get killed by guns

Sarcasm aside, I wonder if less guns would equate to fewer killings.  Obviously, less guns should mean less shooting deaths...but it wouldn't necessarily mean fewer killings.  Would be an interesting study.


check out the countries that have no guns or real and honest gun control

i cant really think of a more user friendly effective and easily accessable killing machine than a hand gun...lets say guns disappeared tomorrow...what equivalent method would replace the gun that would keep killing at their current numbers?
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Diomedes on July 24, 2008, 09:32:05 AM
Quote from: rjs246 on July 24, 2008, 09:27:49 AM
Why would you want to make otherwise law-abiding citizens into criminals? Sounds exactly like the marijuana argument to me...

They hand their guns over and they aren't criminals.  They don't, and they are.  25 years later, we don't have the wild wild west anymore.

I'm not advocating this.  But the argument that guns will always be available is not as lock tight as you think.  If we decided that we didn't want this crap anymore, and were willing to pay the price to purge the nation of guns, it could be done.  It would take damn near forever, but it could happen.  And along the way, it would make crime fighting a lot more simple..you have a gun and you're not a cop, you're a bad guy.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: rjs246 on July 24, 2008, 09:34:19 AM
In other words you're advocating talking about making otherwise lawful citizens into criminals because there are psychos out there who choose to kill people. Nothing like catering all of our laws to the lowest common denominator to improve the country.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Diomedes on July 24, 2008, 09:35:41 AM
Quote from: Diomedes on July 24, 2008, 09:32:05 AM
I'm not advocating this. 

They wouldn't be law abiding if the law said no more guns and they kept them, now would they?
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: ice grillin you on July 24, 2008, 09:37:58 AM
they wouldnt be lawful if they were breaking the law
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: rjs246 on July 24, 2008, 09:42:31 AM
OK, little miss semantics. You're talking about changing the law to make hundreds of thousands of CURRENTLY law abiding citizens into criminals if they don't give up one of their constitutionally protected rights.

SIGN ME UP!
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Diomedes on July 24, 2008, 09:51:44 AM
Now who's arguing semantics?

The idea is that it is possible for the nation to decide we'd rather not have millions of guns floating through our society.  It's not farging likely, but if the nation decided, it the political will existed, to reject the idea that anyone and everyone can have guns, then the seemingly permanent reality could in fact be changed.

Once upon a time we had slaves.  A seemingly permanent social value changed. We don't anymore. 
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: rjs246 on July 24, 2008, 09:54:27 AM
I don't believe that the Bill of Rights outlined owning another human being as an inalienable right, but whatever. Guns don't kill people, life kills people.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Diomedes on July 24, 2008, 10:01:04 AM
No, it was such fundamental assumption at the time that the bill of rights didn't bother to address it at all.  Of course you could own slaves.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: General_Failure on July 24, 2008, 11:03:45 AM
Okay, we ban guns. I'm willing to bet that crazy people who want to go on killing sprees will look for guns to do it with regardless. And find them. Then shoot people.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Diomedes on July 24, 2008, 11:08:25 AM
Didn't Australia ban guns after a school shooting or some such?  And now they have drastically fewer shootings?  Or some such?
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: General_Failure on July 24, 2008, 11:10:52 AM
Now they use a combination of boomerangs and drop bears. And the people who still want to own guns have them, they just don't tell everyone.

Also, it's only automatics and semi-automatics that have been outlawed.

Another edit. The one major shooting Australia had was carried out with petrol bomb cocktail and a crossbow. - http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2003/04/03/1048962883322.html
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: PoopyfaceMcGee on July 24, 2008, 12:04:46 PM
Quote from: General_Failure on July 24, 2008, 11:10:52 AM
Another edit. The one major shooting Australia had was carried out with petrol bomb cocktail and a crossbow. - http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2003/04/03/1048962883322.html

That's bad-ass.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: General_Failure on July 24, 2008, 12:06:11 PM
Amazingly enough, it wasn't blamed on video games.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: PoopyfaceMcGee on July 24, 2008, 12:07:18 PM
That's because no one's ever made a video game that awesome.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: 4and26 on July 24, 2008, 02:52:19 PM
Guns are not banned in Canada but they sure make it hard to obtain one and keep lliceinced.  Not to say there are not illegal guns out there etc...

No guns means that while our gun fatalities are down  - stabbings are way up!
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Father Demon on July 24, 2008, 02:55:15 PM
QuoteOther students leapt on to the youth to try to prevent him re-loading the crossbow. They said he had thrown a molotov cocktail against a wall of the science block where the girls were sitting and was attempting to light the fuel as they struggled with him.

"It was horrifying, it was like something you only hear about in America," 15-year-old Tania Miller said.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Geowhizzer on July 24, 2008, 04:45:01 PM
Just my view:

Stricter gun control / banning guns would lead to less deaths via the 'crime of passion," or murder as a result of an escalating argument, simply because it wouldn't be as easy to do.  It wouldn't eliminate it, but it would reduce it.

First degree murder probably wouldn't be reduced much, because if it is planned, the contingency would be in place.  The breakdowns of capital murder may be different, but I don't think the total number would be reduced by a whole lot.  Someone really wants to kill, they'll find a way.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: ATV on July 24, 2008, 06:13:42 PM
QuoteIf guns were illegal, it wouldn't mean that guns didn't exist.  There will always be ways to get guns, if you want guns.

If this were true then why do we need a second amendment to allow guns?

Because when the amendment was passed guns were five feet long and took 40+ seconds to reload. I can certainly grasp why it was passed. I have no problem with people carrying rifles.  Hell, carry them on the subway even. Like  to hunt? No problem, buy a rifle. Without a permit even. Take 50.

But the forefathers had no conception of the power of modern handguns. If you disagree then again, tell me where it should stop? If citizens should be allowed to own or carry 5-inch long self repeating death-sticks around, then should they be allowed machine guns? No? Yes? If so then should they be allowed to own or carry TOW missles? No? Why the hell not? Yes? If so then should citizens be allowed to own Titan missles? Why not - After all it's people that kill people, not missles for God's sake. Poor weetle missles. Remember these are arms too, and it's supposedly the right of the people "to keep and bear arms"

Just answer the fvcking question - Where do you draw the line?
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: rjs246 on July 24, 2008, 07:18:06 PM
All I want is an automatic shotgun with banana clip, grenade launcher, hd-dvd player with lcd screen and flamethrower and until I get that I'm not going to be satisfied.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: General_Failure on July 24, 2008, 10:27:32 PM
Quote from: ATV on July 24, 2008, 06:13:42 PM
QuoteIf guns were illegal, it wouldn't mean that guns didn't exist.  There will always be ways to get guns, if you want guns.

If this were true then why do we need a second amendment to allow guns?

Because when the amendment was passed guns were five feet long and took 40+ seconds to reload. I can certainly grasp why it was passed. I have no problem with people carrying rifles.  Hell, carry them on the subway even. Like  to hunt? No problem, buy a rifle. Without a permit even. Take 50.

But the forefathers had no conception of the power of modern handguns. If you disagree then again, tell me where it should stop? If citizens should be allowed to own or carry 5-inch long self repeating death-sticks around, then should they be allowed machine guns? No? Yes? If so then should they be allowed to own or carry TOW missles? No? Why the hell not? Yes? If so then should citizens be allowed to own Titan missles? Why not - After all it's people that kill people, not missles for God's sake. Poor weetle missles. Remember these are arms too, and it's supposedly the right of the people "to keep and bear arms"

Just answer the fvcking question - Where do you draw the line?

People who call guns death sticks aren't allowed to own them. I think we're making progress now.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Phanatic on July 24, 2008, 11:18:26 PM
Your never going to get rid of guns in this country. Be realistic at least. Sheesh...
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on July 24, 2008, 11:26:35 PM
Some dude picked off three people at a CC in Phoenix today...
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: ATV on July 24, 2008, 11:51:31 PM
QuoteSome dude picked off three people at a CC in Phoenix today...

That's more like it. So what did the guy use, a knife? Machette? Poison?
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: General_Failure on July 25, 2008, 12:50:16 AM
Scathing wit, I heard. Pointed commentary as well.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: ATV on July 25, 2008, 10:53:36 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=juLQBeZXmPU
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Diomedes on July 25, 2008, 10:59:52 AM
what made him think that suit worked, in any context, ever?
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Father Demon on July 25, 2008, 11:10:08 AM
It's superfly, whitey.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: ice grillin you on July 25, 2008, 11:37:25 AM
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on July 24, 2008, 11:26:35 PM
Some dude picked off three people at a CC in Phoenix today...


thanks for posting that esquire piece....just read it in the pooper....per usual an amazing expose by them
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Cerevant on July 26, 2008, 07:34:18 AM
Quote from: ATV on July 24, 2008, 06:13:42 PM
If this were true then why do we need a second amendment to allow guns?

When considered in the historical context, the point of the second amendment is to allow the existence of a militia independent of the federal government.  Cause, you know, when the king controls the military he accumulates too much power - he can unilaterally declare war and move forward unopposed.  But nothing like that would happen today.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Diomedes on July 26, 2008, 08:04:44 AM
Yeah, that couldn't happen today.  And if it did, I would totally stop him with my AR 15 and my 9mm Browning Hi Power
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: rjs246 on July 26, 2008, 08:54:25 AM
Automatic shotgun. With a banana clip. And flamethrower. Make it happen.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Cerevant on July 27, 2008, 05:24:15 PM
Damnit.  Some farg-up busted into a church and started shooting. (http://www.wbir.com/news/local/story.aspx?storyid=61322&catid=2)  Mental illness is not believed to be a factor.

I know churches get a tough rap around here (including from me) but Unitarian Universalism (http://www.uua.org/visitors/index.shtml) stands against pretty much everything that the fundies stand for.

QuoteThere are seven principles which Unitarian Universalist congregations affirm and promote:

    * The inherent worth and dignity of every person;
    * Justice, equity and compassion in human relations;
    * Acceptance of one another and encouragement to spiritual growth in our congregations;
    * A free and responsible search for truth and meaning;
    * The right of conscience and the use of the democratic process within our congregations and in society at large;
    * The goal of world community with peace, liberty, and justice for all;
    * Respect for the interdependent web of all existence of which we are a part.

Note that "do like we say or you go to hell" is not part of the deal.

Given that UU churches are pretty popular in the gay community, the odds are good that this was a hate crime.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Diomedes on July 27, 2008, 05:35:06 PM
Sounds just like the kind of thing a fundamentalist christian would do, or at least cheer.

I didn't read the article, but I assume he used a bowie knife to do the killing?
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: phillymic2000 on July 27, 2008, 07:02:27 PM
2 bombs go off and kill about a dozen wounding 70
http://www.cnn.com/2008/WORLD/europe/07/27/turkey.violence/index.html (http://www.cnn.com/2008/WORLD/europe/07/27/turkey.violence/index.html)
We should ban bombs.

Bombing warnings for the olympics, we must ban bombs!
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/asia/china/article4406836.ece (http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/asia/china/article4406836.ece)

those crazy christian fundies, why use a gun when you can kill more people with a bomb.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: rjs246 on July 27, 2008, 07:17:43 PM
Um, dude, bombs ARE banned. Basically universally illegal.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: phillymic2000 on July 27, 2008, 07:35:30 PM
well, someone needs to tell these fargers then, and if they are banned, how are they able to find them?
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: rjs246 on July 27, 2008, 07:41:36 PM
You're all over the map. Focus man.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: phillymic2000 on July 27, 2008, 07:46:02 PM
sorry, we just won the arena bowl!!!!

and cat woman is coming back!!
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Cerevant on July 28, 2008, 02:10:22 PM
Quote from: Cerevant on July 27, 2008, 05:24:15 PM
Given that UU churches are pretty popular in the gay community, the odds are good that this was a hate crime.

Sometimes I hate being right. (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/07/28/jim-d-adkisson-charged-in_n_115281.html)

QuoteKNOXVILLE, Tenn. — Knoxville's police chief says the man accused of a shooting that killed two people at a Tennessee church targeted the congregation because of its liberal social stance.

Chief Sterling Owen IV said Monday that police found a letter in Jim D. Adkisson's car. Owen said Adkisson was apparently frustrated over being out of work and had a "stated hatred of the liberal movement."

Adkisson is charged with first-degree murder. Police say a gunman entered the Tennessee Valley Unitarian Universalist Church during a children's performance Sunday. No children were hurt.

The church is known for advocating women's and gay rights and founding an American Civil Liberties Union chapter.

and (http://www.wbir.com/news/local/story.aspx?storyid=61322&catid=2)

QuoteA neighbor told 10News Adkisson described himself as a "Confederate" and a "believer in the old South." She says Adkisson self-identified in this way to her on more than one occasion, but that she didn't know what he meant by it.

Do unto others...
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: PoopyfaceMcGee on July 28, 2008, 02:12:01 PM
(http://www.getreligion.org/wp-content/photos/coexist.jpg)
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Cerevant on July 29, 2008, 03:24:21 PM
Shocker... (http://newsweek.washingtonpost.com/onfaith/undergod/2008/07/a_whole_lotta_ugly_in_church_s.html)
QuoteAdkisson, who had served in the military, said "that because he could not get to the leaders of the liberal movement he would then target those that had voted them in office," the search warrant states. Among the items seized from Adkisson's house were three books: "The O'Reilly Factor," by television commentator Bill O'Reilly; "Liberalism is a Mental Disorder," by radio personality Michael Savage; and "Let Freedom Ring," by political pundit Sean Hannity.
:puke
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: General_Failure on July 29, 2008, 03:25:28 PM
It was probably GTA IV that made him snap.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: ice grillin you on July 29, 2008, 04:01:06 PM
who was the goofball on the board that used to argue with me that the hate from the right is equal to the hate on the left
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: PoopyfaceMcGee on July 29, 2008, 04:02:36 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on July 29, 2008, 04:01:06 PM
who was the goofball on the board that used to argue with me that the hate from the right is equal to the hate on the left

your mom


Hate is one thing; violence is another.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: 4and26 on July 31, 2008, 05:41:31 PM
Not too sure where this belongs:

40-year-old suspect held in gruesome Manitoba bus killing; Passenger decapitated


http://www.cbc.ca/canada/edmonton/story/2008/07/31/greyhound-transcanada.html?ref=rss
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: PoopyfaceMcGee on July 31, 2008, 06:51:59 PM
It probably belongs in the first thread in which it was posted.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: General_Failure on July 31, 2008, 07:11:27 PM
One fatality. No gun. Not even in a Catholic church. This belongs in the bacon thread.

And since it happened it Canada, it should have gone in the non-US shootings thread: the iraq war thread.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Diomedes on September 03, 2008, 07:14:18 AM
oh look, another mass stabbing with multiple dead...what would have happened if he had used a gun??

http://www.komonews.com/news/27789174.html
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: rjs246 on September 03, 2008, 08:07:01 AM
People kill other people. They always have. They always will. Guns fascilitate it. Just like chainsaws and axes and crossbows and knives and candlesticks and rocks and AIDS.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: MadMarchHare on September 03, 2008, 08:10:11 AM
Oh no, her useless twat offspring got knocked up.  Who farging cares?

How about we focus on something more important, which even the news agencies are glossing over, which is that she tried to get her sister ex fired from the police department, and when his boss wouldn't step in line, she went after him.

Just what we need - a vindictive fundamentalist Christian president.  Again.  Except now the prez goes completely, irrationally insane one week out of every month.  YAY!
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: rjs246 on September 03, 2008, 08:11:09 AM
Wrong thread, smart stuff.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Cerevant on September 03, 2008, 08:37:46 AM
You don't understand MMH - if this woman gets the big chair, there will be a mass shooting somewhere up in Illinois...
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: MadMarchHare on September 03, 2008, 07:00:44 PM
Quote from: rjs246 on September 03, 2008, 08:11:09 AM
Wrong thread, smart stuff.

Um, yeah, not sure how that happened.  I had to search just to find it.  Oops.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Father Demon on November 14, 2008, 11:38:41 PM
yet ANOTHER ONE in my neighborhood.

Jesus Christ - I moved to the Yuppie Town to get rid of this shtein:

Two Dead (http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5iVxAeu5_kxPF16zCqvDPsS6iKNQgD94F44C00)

Yep.  Less than a mile from my house.  You'd thing I live in freaking Baltimore or some shtein. 

In the last six months, we've had three SWAT team deployments over idiots with guns.

Quote
Police say a man and his ex-girlfriend are dead after he took her hostage at a health clinic in suburban St. Louis.

Police in O'Fallon, Mo., say the gunman killed his ex-girlfriend Friday before police shot him to death.

A spokeswoman for St. John's Mercy Urgent Care Center says she cannot release any information.

She says everyone with the clinic "is saddened by the events this evening."
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Seabiscuit36 on November 14, 2008, 11:56:04 PM
Moral of the story. Middle America is crazy and armed
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Father Demon on November 15, 2008, 12:20:55 AM
I'll say this. 

No shtein.

Everyone has guns here, and I'm 7 days from buying mine.  Blast you, muthafarger......
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Seabiscuit36 on November 15, 2008, 01:39:02 AM
Quote from: Father Demon on November 15, 2008, 12:20:55 AM
I'll say this. 

No shtein.

Everyone has guns here, and I'm 7 days from buying mine.  Blast you, muthafarger......
Already have mine, its on
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Diomedes on November 15, 2008, 08:08:37 AM
Obviously this man would have stabbed his girlfriend and himself to death if he couldn't get a gun.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: PoopyfaceMcGee on November 15, 2008, 09:21:17 AM
If he only killed one person, it really doesn't qualify for the "Mass" shooting thread, right?

Maybe there should be an O'Fallon, Missouri CRIME WATCH thread.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: shorebird on November 15, 2008, 10:28:39 AM
I would bet that with the way the economy is going, incidences like this will become more and more frequent.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Diomedes on November 15, 2008, 06:53:23 PM
incidences!
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: shorebird on November 15, 2008, 07:40:05 PM
Well, killins' then, thats easier to spell.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: shorebird on November 15, 2008, 07:48:42 PM
How 'bout the 8yr. old who killed his father and fathers friend. crazy (http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2008/11/08/national/main4586103.shtml?source=RSSattr=U.S._4586103)
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: ATV on November 15, 2008, 10:09:54 PM
"Guns don't kill people, people kill people".

Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: shorebird on November 16, 2008, 07:29:23 AM
Huh, finally, a post that makes sense. Had to be something someone else said originally, but progress just the same.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Diomedes on November 16, 2008, 07:46:07 AM
I don't think 8 year olds are capable of murder without a seriously good motive.  I suppose it's possible a child that young might be a murderous sociopath, but those are some long odds.  More likely the dad had it coming.  And his friend, well farg him too.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: shorebird on November 16, 2008, 08:02:17 AM
Yeah, I'm shore the kid has some kind of story that will make you sick.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: PoopyfaceMcGee on November 16, 2008, 08:25:52 AM
Quote from: Diomedes on November 16, 2008, 07:46:07 AM
More likely the dad had it coming.  And his friend, well farg him too.

I laughed and hate myself a little for it.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: ATV on November 16, 2008, 06:44:58 PM
QuoteHuh, finally, a post that makes sense.

Hur. Or did you you really believe I wasn't being facetious?
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: shorebird on November 16, 2008, 07:02:02 PM
No, you have to be  facetious to make sense.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: rjs246 on April 14, 2009, 11:28:21 AM
Columbine, ten years later. (http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/2009-04-13-columbine-myths_N.htm)

It's amazing how much bullshtein was shoveled down our throats about this.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Seabiscuit36 on April 14, 2009, 01:05:25 PM
Ban Assault weapons... Ban Videogames
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: ice grillin you on April 15, 2009, 08:36:44 AM
theres a new book out called "columbine" by dave cullen thats supposed to be excellent
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: SunMo on April 15, 2009, 08:38:16 AM
what's it about?
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Diomedes on April 15, 2009, 08:39:28 AM
The school's championship bowling team
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: ice grillin you on April 15, 2009, 08:44:05 AM
Quote from: SunMo on April 15, 2009, 08:38:16 AM
what's it about?


columbine
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: ice grillin you on June 10, 2009, 02:42:38 PM
88 year old racist anti semite govt hating right win lunatic mensa member tried to shoot up the holocaust museum about an hour ago


if you can get on it heres his website....pretty impressive

http://www.holywesternempire.org/
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: ice grillin you on June 10, 2009, 03:03:40 PM
HITLER'S WORST MISTAKE: By JAMES VON BRUNN
By Stophypocrisy

Because there is no real photographic evidence of "Nazi Gas Chambers" I had to use a painting of the imagination of some paranoid Schizoid.
Stophypocrisy


HITLER'S WORST MISTAKE:
HE DIDN'T GAS THE JEWS.
JAMES VON BRUNN
WWW.HOLYWESTERNEMPIRE.ORG

Remember, the Federal Reserve Act (1913) gave JEWS control of America's MONEY. Followed by control of America's main sources of information .

Early on, during the war-torn 20th Century, the only broadcast networks : ABC, CBS, and NBC — were JEW owned. Today, JEWS control ALL important sources of information (The major networks, Newspapers, Magazines, Book-publishing, Tin-Pan Alley, Music & Recording Industry, Hollywood, Encyclopedia Britannica, Public schools and Universities, the Catholic Church, etc.).

Bit by bit Liberalism ascended. Bit by bit the Constitution was re-interpreted. Bit by bit government institutions and Congressmen fell into JEW hands — then U.S. diplomacy, businesses, resources and manpower came under JEW control.

Whitemen sat on their collective asses and did NOTHING - NOTHING BUT TALK. Never before in World history has a Nation so completely been conquered with absolutely NO physical resistance.

Whites LOVE their Enemies.

Today, on the World stage, Whitemen are LAUGHED AT, their women bred by stronger men.

And America ?

America is a Third-World racial garbage-dump — stupid, ignorant, dead-broke, and terminal.

Prepare to die, Whitey.

jvb-88

Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: MDS on June 10, 2009, 03:05:59 PM
well hes got a point
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: ice grillin you on June 10, 2009, 03:11:45 PM
im watching fox news to see how they are reporting on this...and theres so many viewers calling/emailing in angrily saying how can they be reporting the shooter is a white supremacist when the police havent reported it...as if white supremacists are great people and they shouldnt be associated with someone who did something like this...thats its just unfair
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Seabiscuit36 on June 10, 2009, 03:16:51 PM
White Powa
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: rjs246 on June 10, 2009, 03:22:57 PM
I had no idea my womens were being bred by stronger mens. Now I hate stuff!
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: ice grillin you on June 10, 2009, 03:30:48 PM
ha msnbc interviewd a girl who saw it go down and she said he had a confederate hat on and because of that she thought it was some sort of museum produced interactive event or some shtein before realizing it was fo rilla
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: MDS on June 10, 2009, 04:08:07 PM
speak now you farging republicans
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: rjs246 on June 10, 2009, 04:10:31 PM
Shut up child. Republican is not synonymous with 'white supremacy' or 'hate'. Only the simple-minded take the extremes and apply them to the whole.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: MDS on June 10, 2009, 04:18:10 PM
if you dont connect to the dots from limbaugh oreilly hannity beck and the power they have over these mindless repub drones to what just went down then you are a farging pos chain smoking bostonian with uncomfortable good looks hey whats up buddy
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Seabiscuit36 on June 10, 2009, 04:22:03 PM
Unfortunately thats what took over the R party
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: ice grillin you on June 10, 2009, 04:24:17 PM
id say this lunatic and roeder didnt get the compassionate conservatism mass fax
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: rjs246 on June 10, 2009, 04:27:18 PM
Quote from: MDS on June 10, 2009, 04:18:10 PM
if you dont connect to the dots from limbaugh oreilly hannity beck and the power they have over these mindless repub drones to what just went down then you are a farging pos chain smoking bostonian with uncomfortable good looks hey whats up buddy

You could connect dots all the way from Limbaugh to Marx if you try hard enough. The Republican party is out of fashion and appealing to its 'base' which is more conservative than the whole but still not associated with murder and bigotry. Parties in dire straights go through this. The Dems went through it in the early 80s and eventually adopted policies that appealed to a broader base of the population. Republicans will do the same in time.

It's easy to make caricatures out of the most extremes and 'connect the dots' from extremes to loud-mouthed shock-personalities, but that isn't reality.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: rjs246 on June 10, 2009, 04:43:09 PM
Oops, I forgot to stumblingly flirt with you. Sorry little guy, I got caught up in the moment.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: SunMo on June 10, 2009, 04:49:24 PM
try harder next time
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Sgt PSN on June 10, 2009, 04:57:50 PM
Quote from: rjs246 on June 10, 2009, 04:10:31 PM
Shut up child. Republican is not synonymous with 'white supremacy' or 'hate'. Only the simple-minded take the extremes and apply them to the whole.

it may not be synonymous, but they sure do have a strong connection.....probably one that the party would like to sever at all costs. 

not all repubs are hateful white supremists, but you can bet that most hateful white supremists are repubs. 

guilty by association. 

Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: rjs246 on June 10, 2009, 05:05:33 PM
Quote from: Sgt PSN on June 10, 2009, 04:57:50 PM
Quote from: rjs246 on June 10, 2009, 04:10:31 PM
Shut up child. Republican is not synonymous with 'white supremacy' or 'hate'. Only the simple-minded take the extremes and apply them to the whole.

it may not be synonymous, but they sure do have a strong connection.....probably one that the party would like to sever at all costs. 

not all repubs are hateful white supremists, but you can bet that most hateful white supremists are repubs. 

guilty by association. 


You first point is valid but doesn't validate your last point. What should conservatives do? Throw their hands up and abandon conservatism because hateful racist lunatics are scared of colored people and progressive agendas and therefore vote Republican?

There is no guilt by association. There are just lunatics who need to be eliminated with extreme prejudice.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: ice grillin you on June 10, 2009, 05:15:02 PM
rush limbaugh is a god in the republican party....for god sakes a man who was vice president of the country six months ago said hed rather rush than colin powell represent the party....dont try and act like these people are the fringe of the right......if anything they are the base
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Sgt PSN on June 10, 2009, 05:23:48 PM
Quote from: rjs246 on June 10, 2009, 05:05:33 PM
Quote from: Sgt PSN on June 10, 2009, 04:57:50 PM
Quote from: rjs246 on June 10, 2009, 04:10:31 PM
Shut up child. Republican is not synonymous with 'white supremacy' or 'hate'. Only the simple-minded take the extremes and apply them to the whole.

it may not be synonymous, but they sure do have a strong connection.....probably one that the party would like to sever at all costs.  

not all repubs are hateful white supremists, but you can bet that most hateful white supremists are repubs.  

guilty by association.  


You first point is valid but doesn't validate your last point. What should conservatives do? Throw their hands up and abandon conservatism because hateful racist lunatics are scared of colored people and progressive agendas and therefore vote Republican?

There is no guilt by association. There are just lunatics who need to be eliminated with extreme prejudice.

there's guilt by association everywhere.  japanese-americans were locked in camps during wwII.  after 9/11 muslims around the world were accused of being terrorists.   in the "court of public opinion" these people were guilty because they shared something in common with the actual criminals.  

the republican party takes a major pr hit every time some right wing nut job goes ape shtein with a machine gun.  that's what guilty by association is.  lay off the sauce, dook.  
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Eagaholic on June 10, 2009, 05:45:25 PM
NPR has this on the shooter.

QuoteVon Brunn has a racist, anti-Semitic Web site and wrote a book titled Kill the Best Gentile. In 1983, he was convicted of attempting to kidnap members of the Federal Reserve Board. He was arrested two years earlier outside the room where the board was meeting, carrying a revolver, knife and sawed-off shotgun. At the time, police said von Brunn wanted to take the members hostage because of high interest rates and the nation's economic difficulties.

See, this came from an economic not a racial problem.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Diomedes on June 10, 2009, 05:45:43 PM
Quote from: Sgt PSN on June 10, 2009, 05:23:48 PMnot all repubs are hateful white supremists, but you can bet that most hateful white supremists are repubs.

true, and not by accident.  white supremicists and their ilk are a core faction of the Republican base.  if you can't acknowledge that, there's something wrong with you in the head
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: rjs246 on June 10, 2009, 06:01:58 PM
I'm not going to try to convince the left-wing whackos here that the Republican party is not in cahoots with these extremist whackos. What I will say is that I love how black and white everything is around here. It reinforces my already stellar view of all of you.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Diomedes on June 10, 2009, 06:04:28 PM
Ha.  You're farged in the head.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: rjs246 on June 10, 2009, 06:09:29 PM
You're right. Assuming that a major political party, that garnered 45% of the nation's vote just 7 months ago, isn't pandering to a lunatic murderous fringe population is completely insane.

I'M the one who is making wild accusations. Totally.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Tomahawk on June 10, 2009, 06:14:23 PM
Are you trying to mount the argument that you're not farged in the head? Good luck
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: rjs246 on June 10, 2009, 06:15:53 PM
Ha. Well struck. I concede.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Diomedes on June 10, 2009, 07:21:06 PM
Dickface.  Did I say pandering?  Or in cahoots with?  No.  Though historical examples of both can be cited ad infinitum, that is not what I said.  I said hateful racist bigots are a core faction of the republican base.  And they are.   And you know it.  And you are farged in the head.  And you know it.

head farged
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: rjs246 on June 10, 2009, 07:45:50 PM
I already conceded, assbutt. You're right. Conservatives in general and Republicans in particular are all murderously racist bigots. And yes that's exactly what you said and exactly how you meant it.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Diomedes on June 10, 2009, 07:48:20 PM
I've been talking to you for too many years.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: rjs246 on June 10, 2009, 07:48:58 PM
Ignore feature?
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Diomedes on June 10, 2009, 07:55:17 PM
I'd miss you though.   Worse, it won't work in a mb format with someone you know too well.  I'd know what you typed ninety percent of the time without reading it, and the rest of the time everyone else's responses would reveal the horror.  I might as well just keep suffering.


Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: rjs246 on June 10, 2009, 07:57:43 PM
All this time and you still haven't figured out my only real passion. Arguing with people who will never ever change their mind about something. It's the gift that keeps on giving.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Diomedes on June 10, 2009, 08:06:09 PM
Quote from: rjs246 on June 10, 2009, 07:57:43 PMAll this time and you still haven't figured out my only real passion.

I can't decide whether it's drink, anal, zombies, or just plain farging with people.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Rome on June 10, 2009, 08:08:04 PM
If only your singular passion was arsenic.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Diomedes on June 10, 2009, 08:32:51 PM
wouldn't we all be happier if people wanted to do what's right?
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: rjs246 on June 10, 2009, 08:55:55 PM
Quote from: Diomedes on June 10, 2009, 08:06:09 PM
Quote from: rjs246 on June 10, 2009, 07:57:43 PMAll this time and you still haven't figured out my only real passion.

I can't decide whether it's drink, anal, zombies, or just plain farging with people.

It rotates, but the first one and last one are more or less constants.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: ice grillin you on August 05, 2009, 01:43:15 PM
a breakdown of the pittsburgh gym shooters online diary

http://abovethelaw.com/2009/08/kl_gates_shooter_george_sodini.php
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: ice grillin you on August 05, 2009, 02:15:16 PM
Moving into Christmas again. No girlfriend since 1984, last Christmas with Pam was in 1983. Who knows why. I am not ugly or too weird. No sex since July 1990 either (I was 29). No ****! Over eighteen years ago. And did it maybe only 50-75 times in my life. Getting to think that a woman now would just, uh, get in the way of things. Isolated. I have extra money and enjoy traveling, too, wtih my 25-30 days of vacation. LA was the best! But going alone is not too fun. Invited to a party on Christmas day tomorrow. Seems about 15-25 people will actually show. I like her parties; I can meet new people and talk. Got the next 8 days off. I should have exit plan done and practiced by then. I know nothing will change, no matter how hard I try or what goals I set.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: reese125 on August 05, 2009, 02:24:08 PM
so the story is saying he shot his ex-girlfriend, which was 1984? damn...you want to talk about one hell of a grudge

Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: ice grillin you on August 05, 2009, 02:29:29 PM
Quote from: reese125 on August 05, 2009, 02:24:08 PM
so the story is saying he shot his ex-girlfriend, which was 1984? damn...you want to talk about one hell of a grudge



are they still saying that....because from reading all his shtein that is never mentioned one time as a motive
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: ice grillin you on August 05, 2009, 02:32:04 PM
June 5, 2009:
I was reading several posts on different forums and it seems many teenage girls have sex frequently. One 16 year old does it usually three times a day with her boyfriend. So, err, after a month of that, this little hoe has had more sex than ME in my LIFE, and I am 48. One more reason. Thanks for nada, *****es! Bye.



July 23, 2009:

Wow!!

I just looked out my front window and saw a beautiful college-age girl leave Bob Fox's house, across the street. I guess he got a good lay today. College girls are hoez. I masturbate. Frequently. He is about 45 years old. She was a long haired, hot little hottie with a beautiful bod. I masturbate. Frequently. Some were simply meant to walk a lonely path in life. I don't usually look out, but just happened to notice. Holy ****. I have masturbated since age 13. Thanks, mum and brother (by blood alone). And dad, old man, for TOTALLY ignoring me through the years. All of you DEEPLY helped me be this way.

I wish I can go back to 1975 and fix things. Awe, that wont work, big BULLY BROTHER would assert his bull ****. He was twice my size. He never messed with guys bigger than 5'10, or so. He is a ***** at heart. Remember, Michael is my brother (we have common parents, that's all) is still a BOSS. Repetition only for emphasis: HE IS ONLY A BULLY, even at 50ish! Never forget that! Because he exudes confidence. People believe bull **** if delivered WITH CONFIDENCE. Get it??

On the same thought, things occured to me today. Michael NEVER had an attractive girlfriend. Debbie, Barb, Kim, ... then I lost track. Not to say I had any (execpt Pam, who was about a 7.25). He married a Chinese-descent, petite woman with no body, no ass, no chest and no personality. She never laughs or smiles, neither does he. But she is highly intelligent and an excellent cook. I can testify to that! She home bakes her own DELICIOUS wheat bread! But who cares about that type of small bull crap? Mike even mentioned when we were visiting dad that "she's not very attractive".

I don't know where I am going with this. I am getting tired, feels good to write and get it all out.

On still another thought, I had 20+ years of sobriety and achieved nothing about friendships, girlfriends, guys, etc. Zilch. What a waste.



last entry..


August 4, 2009:


Also, any of the "Practice Papers" left on my coffee table I used or the notes in my gym bag can be published freely. I will not be embarased, because, well, I will be dead. Some people like to study that stuff. Maybe all this will shed insight on why some people just cannot make things happen in their life, which can potentially benefit others.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Seabiscuit36 on August 05, 2009, 06:09:04 PM
jesus, what a wierdo.  He should have just shot himself, and Sidney Crosby
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: reese125 on August 05, 2009, 08:39:31 PM
sounds as though he's a little pissed about masturbating from his July 23rd blurb. dude must be crazy.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: ice grillin you on November 05, 2009, 04:50:14 PM
trouble in the hood again

http://www.comcast.net/articles/news-general/20091105/US.Fort.Hood.Shooting/
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Seabiscuit36 on November 05, 2009, 05:01:25 PM
my guess is either latino gangs, or white supremacist.  Soldiers, but the army has a huge problem.  The thing is why would 3 guys do this. 
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: General_Failure on November 05, 2009, 05:55:08 PM
Time to take guns away from the soldiers. Just to be safe, take all the video games as well.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on November 05, 2009, 06:33:01 PM
Quote from: Seabiscuit36 on November 05, 2009, 05:01:25 PM
my guess is either latino gangs, or white supremacist.  Soldiers, but the army has a huge problem.  The thing is why would 3 guys do this. 

My boy said its crazy up there right now. His wife works on base and its on lock down and has been since it happened. Which means no one on, no one off. So if ya ran on post to grab some milk or something at the commissary...you're chillin' in the parking lot waiting.

One dude that did it is a Major in the Army, a muslim fella.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Seabiscuit36 on November 05, 2009, 06:43:13 PM
damn, not good.  I didnt think it would be an outsider, its a process to get on base
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Drunkmasterflex on November 05, 2009, 07:25:06 PM
I tried to get a hold of some of my boys they don't even have their cell phones on, one did text to tell me he was ok.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Seabiscuit36 on November 05, 2009, 07:25:47 PM
i was wondering if you still had some boys there man.  Good luck to them.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: ice grillin you on November 05, 2009, 08:11:26 PM
they are saying dook killed 11 people with two pistols....how the hell do you do that in the middle of a damn army base
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Seabiscuit36 on November 05, 2009, 08:17:35 PM
Honestly, thats precision shooting.  He's also a major, a psychiatrist, and a muslim, similar to the guy who dropped grenades over in iraq. 
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Diomedes on November 05, 2009, 08:34:54 PM
I heard he was a Phillies fan, too.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Sgt PSN on November 05, 2009, 08:59:26 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on November 05, 2009, 08:11:26 PM
they are saying dook killed 11 people with two pistols....how the hell do you do that in the middle of a damn army base

contrary to popular belief, not all troops walk around base with side arms and machine guns.  so unless you just have the unfortunate luck of trying that ish with 4 or 5 mp's near by, then you're going to get your shots off and do a lot of murderdeathkilling in the process. 

Quote from: Diomedes on November 05, 2009, 08:34:54 PM
I heard he was a Phillies fan, too.

too soon. 


actually, it's not.  i laughed. 
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Seabiscuit36 on November 05, 2009, 09:59:46 PM
way too accurate to be a phillies fan
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Drunkmasterflex on November 06, 2009, 12:31:16 AM
There are a lot of different reports out there right now, I heard there may have been automatic weapons involved as well.  Where he was at is a high volume of people with a little space, similar to a school. 

Like Sarge said on a military base very few people are armed.  Where they were at no one would be, unless a MP was there for some reason.  That is highly unlikely though. 
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Diomedes on November 06, 2009, 07:29:57 AM
Sounds to me like this was a case of a very stressed out dude snapping, nothing more. 

It shouldn't come as too much of a shock given the incredible pressure being endured by our military.  You want war, this is part of war.  Soldiers get killed and kill people and it fargs them up in a big way.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: mussa on November 06, 2009, 09:02:25 AM
Problem with that is this guy never saw combat, he just heard the stories from soldiers since he was a army psychiatrist, from what i read in an article today anyway. seems like he was against the wars and was scared to go on his first deployment, so he decided to go on a rampage. i don't understand if he would of even saw combat time. i don't get it. its all very strange. i guess the guy is still alive according to this:

http://abcnews.go.com/WN/soldiers-killed-fort-hood-shooting/story?id=9007938
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: phattymatty on November 06, 2009, 09:35:23 AM
damn all day yesterday they were saying dude was killed but this morning i see he's at the hospital and stable.  another virginia tech wacko. 
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: phillycrew on November 06, 2009, 10:05:27 AM
Quote from: mussa on November 06, 2009, 09:02:25 AM
Problem with that is this guy never saw combat, he just heard the stories from soldiers since he was a army psychiatrist, from what i read in an article today anyway. seems like he was against the wars and was scared to go on his first deployment, so he decided to go on a rampage. i don't understand if he would of even saw combat time. i don't get it. its all very strange. i guess the guy is still alive according to this:

http://abcnews.go.com/WN/soldiers-killed-fort-hood-shooting/story?id=9007938

Yep.  He never would have been on the front lines.  He was a Muslim who was against the war.  Question is why not just go AWOL instead of a shooting rampage.  I think they found evidence he was on the internet talking about suicide bombings.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: phillymic2000 on November 06, 2009, 10:27:35 AM
This could also be a terrorist attack, by a radical individual or as part of a group.


Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Drunkmasterflex on November 06, 2009, 11:02:51 AM
If he was a shrink he never would have went "outside the wire".  I can kind of understand not wanting to go, but this is just insane.   Dude was a coward. 
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: fansince61 on November 06, 2009, 12:20:49 PM
His family says the more religion he got the more screwed up he was. 
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: BigEd76 on November 06, 2009, 01:05:26 PM
breaking news: 8 people shot in a high-rise office building in Orlando
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: rjs246 on November 06, 2009, 01:07:19 PM
Thin the herd.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Sgt PSN on November 06, 2009, 02:29:59 PM
Quote from: fansince61 on November 06, 2009, 12:20:49 PM
His family says the more religion he got the more screwed up he was. 

that's pretty much a given. 
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: shorebird on November 07, 2009, 08:36:39 PM
Quote from: Drunkmasterflex on November 06, 2009, 11:02:51 AM
If he was a shrink he never would have went "outside the wire".  I can kind of understand not wanting to go, but this is just insane.  Dude was a coward.  

As are all radical Muslim murderers,
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: ice grillin you on November 07, 2009, 08:38:38 PM
i dont know

giving up your LIFE for anything is pretty uncowardly if you ask me
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: shorebird on November 07, 2009, 08:39:16 PM
The thing about the Fort Hood shootings is that complaints were made and superiors were notified about this nuts state of mind, and it was all swept under the rug. I'm sure it will all come out with the investigation.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: shorebird on November 07, 2009, 08:44:24 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on November 07, 2009, 08:38:38 PM
i dont know

giving up your LIFE for anything is pretty uncowardly if you ask me

Shooting, bombing, or any other way of killing innocent unarmed people because you want to get noticed or don't like the fact they don't share your views or religion is the act of a coward. This animal shot his own fellow soldiers who were unarmed because he didn't like what was going on in Afghanistan. There is no bigger act of cowardice. I can't wait to hear this piece of shtein's story, I'm glad he wasn't killed. Maybe they will do it right and put him in front of a firing squad.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: General_Failure on November 07, 2009, 08:46:31 PM
Quote from: shorebird on November 07, 2009, 08:36:39 PM
Quote from: Drunkmasterflex on November 06, 2009, 11:02:51 AM
If he was a shrink he never would have went "outside the wire".  I can kind of understand not wanting to go, but this is just insane.  Dude was a coward. 

As are all radical Muslim murderers,

That would be all crazy-ass murderers, regardless of religious or political beliefs. We just got rid of two rhetoric-spewing jackasses, we don't need anyone to pick up where they left off.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: ice grillin you on November 07, 2009, 08:48:46 PM
Quote from: shorebird on November 07, 2009, 08:44:24 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on November 07, 2009, 08:38:38 PM
i dont know

giving up your LIFE for anything is pretty uncowardly if you ask me

Shooting, bombing, or any other way of killing innocent unarmed people because you want to get noticed or don't like the fact they don't share your views or religion is the act of a coward. This animal shot his own fellow soldiers who were unarmed because he didn't like what was going on in Afghanistan. There is no bigger act of cowardice. I can't wait to hear this piece of shtein's story, I'm glad he wasn't killed. Maybe they will do it right and put him in front of a firing squad.

now youre talking more clearly
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: shorebird on November 07, 2009, 08:52:48 PM
Quote from: General_Failure on November 07, 2009, 08:46:31 PM
Quote from: shorebird on November 07, 2009, 08:36:39 PM
Quote from: Drunkmasterflex on November 06, 2009, 11:02:51 AM
If he was a shrink he never would have went "outside the wire".  I can kind of understand not wanting to go, but this is just insane.  Dude was a coward.  

As are all radical Muslim murderers,

That would be all crazy-ass murderers, regardless of religious or political beliefs. We just got rid of two rhetoric-spewing jackasses, we don't need anyone to pick up where they left off.

The piece of shtein was obviously a radical Muslim. If he'd have been a white arian supremacist cowardly murderer, I'd have posted it. Whats the problem?
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: ice grillin you on November 07, 2009, 09:20:19 PM
timothy mcveigh parking a truck bomb in front of a day care center then slithering away before it blows up is cowardly

killing yourself in order to kill others....or walking in the middle of a military base and blasting people is not

Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: LBIggle on November 07, 2009, 09:30:30 PM
he shot a bunch of unarmed people because he was too much of a Hoyda to eat a gun himself. 

i hope they torture him.  slowly.  screaming and bloody.  and don't keep it quiet.

we are over there the begin with because of your fellow fanatic muslim retards, icehole.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: shorebird on November 07, 2009, 09:50:38 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on November 07, 2009, 09:20:19 PM
timothy mcveigh parking a truck bomb in front of a day care center then slithering away before it blows up is cowardly

killing yourself in order to kill others....or walking in the middle of a military base and blasting people is not



Then what is it?
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: ice grillin you on November 07, 2009, 09:51:24 PM
despicable...evil....ect...
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Seabiscuit36 on November 07, 2009, 10:52:43 PM
dude should have a pineapple shoved up his ass every day at 4:30pm
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: PhillyPhanInDC on November 07, 2009, 11:26:42 PM
Quote from: LBIggle on November 07, 2009, 09:30:30 PM
we are over there the begin with because of your fellow fanatic muslim retards, icehole.

Wrong, in the case of Iraq.

Also, this to me would be hard to qualify as a terrorist attack. This was a military target. Walking into a mall and unloading = terrorist. Killing your enemy's soldiers as an objective = war.

Terrorist: the use of violence and threats to intimidate or coerce, esp. for political purposes.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: LBIggle on November 08, 2009, 01:35:31 AM
i wasn't really talking about iraq. we are originally over in afghanistan and wherever else there is terrorists because of his fellow muslim extremists.  anyone who carries out a despicable act like this can be labeled as an extremist.  was it a terrorist attack? probably not.  someone would have claimed responsibility for it by now.  the point i was making is his fellow "spiritually enlightened" peoples started this mess.  if your going to flip out and throw a hissy fit, do it over there and direct it at the people that are responsible.  if its that big of a deal and you don't want to fulfill your duty, eat a gun.  don't try for suicide by cop.  coward.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: shorebird on November 08, 2009, 08:34:18 AM
Take a look at the victims. Nurses, musicians, physician's assistants, engineers, psychologist, and a pregnant mother to be.  (http://www.cnn.com/2009/CRIME/11/06/fort.hood.shootings.victims/index.html?eref=rss_topstories)

Yeah, a real battle hardened military target.

I, for one, could care less if this is deemed an act of terrorism or an act of a off the wall nut case, but it isn't hard to qualify it as terrorism if you are informed as to the comments and actions of Maj. Nidal Malik Hasan before he went on his shooting rampage. Link (http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/us_fort_hood_shooting_suspect)

QuoteAt least six months ago, Hasan came to the attention of law enforcement officials because of Internet postings about suicide bombings and other threats, including posts that equated suicide bombers to soldiers who throw themselves on a grenade to save the lives of their comrades.

QuoteHis anger was noted by a classmate, who said Hasan "viewed the war against terror" as a "war against Islam."

Dr. Val Finnell, a classmate of Hasan's at the Uniformed Services University of the Health Sciences in Bethesda, attended a master's in public health program in 2007-2008. Finnell says he got to know Hasan because the group of public health students took an environmental health class together. At the end of the class, everyone had to give a presentation. Classmates wrote on topics such as dry cleaning chemicals and mold in homes, but Finnell said Hasan chose the war against terror. Finnell described Hasan as a "vociferous opponent" of the terror war. Finnell said Hasan told classmates he was "a Muslim first and an American second."

There are also reports of him shouting "Allahu Akbar," a arabic phrase meaning God is great, before he started shooting people. Sounds like he thought he was fighting a holy war when you hear that stuff. Combined with the reported calmness of how he went about the shooting leads people to believe it was a cold, calculated thought out act. Like most other terrorist attacks.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: phillymic2000 on November 08, 2009, 08:49:02 AM
Quote from: ice grillin you on November 07, 2009, 09:20:19 PM
timothy mcveigh parking a truck bomb in front of a day care center then slithering away before it blows up is cowardly

killing yourself in order to kill others....or walking in the middle of a military base and blasting people is not



So a suicide bomber who takes his own life and any number of unarmed people is not a coward?
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: shorebird on November 08, 2009, 08:59:24 AM
Quote from: phillymic2000 on November 08, 2009, 08:49:02 AM
Quote from: ice grillin you on November 07, 2009, 09:20:19 PM
timothy mcveigh parking a truck bomb in front of a day care center then slithering away before it blows up is cowardly

killing yourself in order to kill others....or walking in the middle of a military base and blasting people is not

So a suicide bomber who takes his own life and any number of unarmed people is not a coward?

Actually, he didn't take his own life and wasn't shot too death like what was origionally reported. Which is a good thing. Hopefully all the speculation will be laid to rest with facts.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Diomedes on November 08, 2009, 09:33:44 AM
Am I to understand that bowzer and ATV are gone?
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: General_Failure on November 08, 2009, 11:33:23 AM
Yes.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Seabiscuit36 on November 08, 2009, 11:58:32 AM
there is a god?
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: mpmcgraw on November 08, 2009, 12:13:45 PM
No.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: PhillyGirl on November 08, 2009, 04:02:33 PM
Quote from: Seabiscuit36 on November 08, 2009, 11:58:32 AM
there is a god?

Praise GF?
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Diomedes on November 08, 2009, 05:51:40 PM
I'd credit Sassy for touching GF's little black heart with his impassioned ode to the good 'ol days in the politics thread. 
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Sgt PSN on November 08, 2009, 06:52:39 PM
Quote from: General_Failure on November 07, 2009, 08:46:31 PM
We just got rid of two rhetoric-spewing jackasses, we don't need anyone to pick up where they left off.

Quote from: Diomedes on November 08, 2009, 09:33:44 AM
Am I to understand that bowzer and ATV are gone?
that's what i was wondering myself. 

Quote from: General_Failure on November 08, 2009, 11:33:23 AM
Yes.
praise the black baby jeebus

Quote from: Diomedes on November 08, 2009, 05:51:40 PM
I'd credit Sassy for touching GF's little black heart with his impassioned ode to the good 'ol days in the politics thread. 

ha.  i just really had enough of those 2 because i really don't think they respect anyone's opinion and they're whole schtick got real old, real quick.

in short, i didn't like the cut of their jibs 
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Sgt PSN on November 08, 2009, 06:56:52 PM
i'm kind of curious though, because was offline from yesterday morning until this evening, what those 2 idiots did that finally went over the top. 
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: General_Failure on November 08, 2009, 09:06:48 PM
I had a bad day elsewhere and took it out on them.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Seabiscuit36 on November 08, 2009, 09:08:51 PM
i like it
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: General_Failure on November 08, 2009, 09:11:23 PM
Most of their jackassery was contained in the political threads. Since I'm of the opinion that political discussion can only lead to mindless regurgitation of lies and half truths, I was fine with it.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Seabiscuit36 on November 08, 2009, 09:13:31 PM
they both added nothing, other than headaches. 
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: General_Failure on November 08, 2009, 09:16:08 PM
And they probably cost us a couple of good posters. Good posters who probably got their panties in a twist over the deterioration of the political threads, so farg 'em all.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Seabiscuit36 on November 08, 2009, 09:22:38 PM
Kitten Mittons
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Sgt PSN on November 08, 2009, 10:00:43 PM
Quote from: General_Failure on November 08, 2009, 09:06:48 PM
I had a bad day elsewhere and took it out on them.

sometimes i think you're the sexiest person on the internet. 
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Seabiscuit36 on November 08, 2009, 10:09:44 PM
Austrailians love him
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: General_Failure on November 08, 2009, 10:27:25 PM
Much like the kangaroo, my testicles are above my penis.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: MDS on November 08, 2009, 11:36:09 PM
Ewftw
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: phillycrew on November 09, 2009, 10:08:13 AM
Ban them all.  Let Allah sort them out.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: rjs246 on November 09, 2009, 05:39:34 PM
Holy crap I just came back to see that bowzer and ATV have been banned. Now I might have to start posting again. Ugh. bastiches.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: phillymic2000 on November 09, 2009, 09:23:15 PM
http://www.nypost.com/p/news/national/report_cia_aware_ft_hood_shooter_LjsDA0q4t3i0Yfyi4svk9M (http://www.nypost.com/p/news/national/report_cia_aware_ft_hood_shooter_LjsDA0q4t3i0Yfyi4svk9M)

QuoteArmy massacre fiend Nidal Malik Hasan reportedly tried to make contact with al Qaeda terrorists, something intelligence agencies were aware of months ago.

It is not known whether the intelligence agencies informed the Army that Maj. Hasan, an Army shrink, was seeking to connect with suspected terrorists, ABC News reported today on its Web site.

Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: shorebird on November 11, 2009, 11:25:18 AM
This is looking more and more like it could have been prevented.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Seabiscuit36 on November 11, 2009, 11:41:13 AM
i blame the president
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: fansince61 on November 12, 2009, 12:22:10 PM
Quote from: shorebird on November 11, 2009, 11:25:18 AM
This is looking more and more like it could have been prevented.

"political correctness" strikes again.  To many intelligence workers protecting their pensions instead of their country
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Sgt PSN on November 12, 2009, 12:59:23 PM
intel community has a tough job.  if they act on every potential red flag they see, they'll look stupid more often than not and will be accused of spreading uneccessary fear and panic along with wasting fed tax dollars, fear mongering, violating the constitution, etc, etc, etc. 

on the other hand, when they don't act and something like this comes up, we look at them and wonder wtf are they doing? 

it's a double edged sword and anything less than 100% success is going to make them look incompetent even though 100% is not attainable.  it's also a harsh reality, but the loss of a dozen american lives is probably not considered a failure in they eyes of the intel community, only in the eyes of the public.  as long as intel is holding off the major attacks that target american property or a large # of people (ie 9/11), that is their main concern.  a dozen dead people in texas really doesn't concern them very much. 

sad.  but true. 
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: fansince61 on November 12, 2009, 01:18:10 PM
In war, indecision kills.  You have to be bias for your team ;)
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Sgt PSN on November 12, 2009, 01:33:36 PM
nah, actually i don't care for the intel community that much at all.  i think the practice of spying on other countries or your own country is childish and unethical.  world leaders need to grow the farg up and stay out of each others business.  and my own government definitely needs to the farg out of my personal life.  but that just because i don't agree with having them around doesn't mean that their job isn't difficult. 
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Eagaholic on November 12, 2009, 07:09:49 PM
Quote from: Sgt PSN on November 12, 2009, 12:59:23 PM
intel community has a tough job.  if they act on every potential red flag they see, they'll look stupid more often than not and will be accused of spreading uneccessary fear and panic along with wasting fed tax dollars, fear mongering, violating the constitution, etc, etc, etc.  

on the other hand, when they don't act and something like this comes up, we look at them and wonder wtf are they doing?  

it's a double edged sword and anything less than 100% success is going to make them look incompetent even though 100% is not attainable.  it's also a harsh reality, but the loss of a dozen american lives is probably not considered a failure in they eyes of the intel community, only in the eyes of the public.  as long as intel is holding off the major attacks that target american property or a large # of people (ie 9/11), that is their main concern.  a dozen dead people in texas really doesn't concern them very much.  

sad.  but true.  

But also, if military intelligence can't catch everything there is always Dept of Homeland Security to pick up the ball


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Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Drunkmasterflex on November 12, 2009, 09:46:33 PM
I just found out that 6 of the victims from the shooting were part of my original battalion.  Most everybody I know from that unit is gone, but it is crazy to hear. 
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Diomedes on November 12, 2009, 10:45:56 PM
six of the dead?
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Drunkmasterflex on November 13, 2009, 10:35:52 AM
not sure
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: shorebird on November 20, 2009, 11:49:11 PM
Getting even uglier. link (http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20091121/ap_on_go_ot/us_fort_hood_senate;_ylt=AmN6VPt6v9Vzw0vj7yMlGWKs0NUE;_ylu=X3oDMTNqYmxwcnZyBGFzc2V0A2FwLzIwMDkxMTIxL3VzX2ZvcnRfaG9vZF9zZW5hdGUEY2NvZGUDbW9zdHBvcHVsYXIEY3BvcwMxBHBvcwMzBHB0A2hvbWVfY29rZQRzZWMDeW5fdG9wX3N0b3J5BHNsawNmdWxsbmJzcHN0b3I-)

QuoteLevin also said he considers Hasan's shooting spree, which killed 13 and wounded more than 30, an act of terrorism.

"There are some who are reluctant to call it terrorism but there is significant evidence that is. I'm not at all uneasy saying it sure looks like that," he said.

Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Sgt PSN on November 21, 2009, 02:37:24 AM
of course it's an act of terrorism.  so is some jesus lover bombing an abortion clinic.  the word terrorism has such a broad meaning that it's actually disturbing how many people only use it when muslims be killing white people. 

but i get what the article is saying.  muslim+contacted al queda+mass shooting of soldiers and families=terrorist. 

i would just like to see the talking heads at the top of our government actually use the proper terminology. 
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Susquehanna Birder on November 21, 2009, 10:16:00 AM
I wouldn't mind if they blew past the "terrorism" label, and just called it what it was: fundamentalist Muslim behavior.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Diomedes on November 21, 2009, 12:44:24 PM
so long as we agree to call abortion clinic bombings fundamentalist christian behavior, sounds good to me.

don't know what you'd call Timothy McVeigh or the Unibomber
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Sgt PSN on November 21, 2009, 01:10:24 PM
Quote from: Susquehanna Birder on November 21, 2009, 10:16:00 AM
I wouldn't mind if they blew past the "terrorism" label, and just called it what it was: fundamentalist Muslim behavior.


can't say i agree with that one at all because i don't think that murderdeathkill is actually a fundamental of the muslim religion. 


Quote from: Diomedes on November 21, 2009, 12:44:24 PM
so long as we agree to call abortion clinic bombings fundamentalist christian behavior, sounds good to me.

don't know what you'd call Timothy McVeigh or the Unibomber

obviously the same goes here. 

all i'd like to see is a spade called a spade.  attach the terrorism label to this guy if you want to but when some white jesus extremist blows up an abortion clinic, then he needs to be labeled a terrorist as well because he's using terrorist tactics to promote his religious beliefs. 

same thing goes for anti-gov't people who blow up gov't buildings.  it's an act of terrorism to promote political beliefs. 

it really does sicken me that high ranking member of our government are only using the terrorist/ism label when muslims of middle east decent with muslim names are involved but not when whitey does the same thing.  it's simply perpetuating a stereotype that makes non-muslims afraid of muslims. 
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Seabiscuit36 on November 21, 2009, 01:22:50 PM
couldnt have said it better.  Apparently terrorism is only terrorism when its a sanctioned event by AlQueda, and they have a copyright on the term.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Sgt PSN on November 21, 2009, 01:35:27 PM
lol @ al queda getting funded with copyright royalties. 
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: shorebird on November 21, 2009, 02:01:43 PM
Quote from: Sgt PSN on November 21, 2009, 01:10:24 PM
all i'd like to see is a spade called a spade.  attach the terrorism label to this guy if you want to but when some white jesus extremist blows up an abortion clinic, then he needs to be labeled a terrorist as well because he's using terrorist tactics to promote his religious beliefs. 

same thing goes for anti-gov't people who blow up gov't buildings.  it's an act of terrorism to promote political beliefs. 

I couldn't agree more. I feel McVeigh is just as much a terrorist as the pilots of the 911 jets.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Diomedes on November 22, 2009, 01:35:05 AM
the pilots were alright, it was the hijackers were the problem
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: shorebird on November 22, 2009, 07:37:01 AM
Well, the terrorist that piloted the plans into the building then.

What gets me though, is that this guy was a officer in the United States Army who probably was in contact with terrorist organizations, schemed and plotted to murder his fellow soldiers, and then actually carried out this terrible act. But still, all some people want to talk about is wether or not to call this cretin a terrorist or not, because someone like McVeigh wasn't. Who gives a crap how his is labeled politically?? I mean, I'll call him a terrorist just because. Call McVeigh a terrorist, the Unibomber, the D.C. sniper, all of 'em. Is it that big a deal when people, innocent mothers and pregnant woman, little kids like the ones at day care in the Oklahoma City bombing are friggen' being murdered?

I think there is way, way too much emphasis put on being politically correct in this country. Every thing, person or act has to be labeled with a certain name or phrase and if you don't call it like those who think they know, you are an ignorant radical. Maybe I'll call Nidel Hasan what he really is, terrorist or not, a murdering treasonist cowardly piece of shtein who needs to be marched in front of a firing squad. He killed nurses, doctors, and a pregnant mother among others. And our government that went overseas and killed thousands supposedly to help protect us from terrorism might have known about him and possibly could have prevented this murderous act saving the lives of the people who swore an oath to protect ours, did absolutely nothing probably because of the political repercussions that would have came from the army calling out a Muslim.  That and the loss of the lives of the soldiers is were my thoughts are.



Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Susquehanna Birder on November 22, 2009, 07:58:29 AM
Quote from: Sgt PSN on November 21, 2009, 01:10:24 PM
Quote from: Susquehanna Birder on November 21, 2009, 10:16:00 AM
I wouldn't mind if they blew past the "terrorism" label, and just called it what it was: fundamentalist Muslim behavior.


can't say i agree with that one at all because i don't think that murderdeathkill is actually a fundamental of the muslim religion. 

I'm using the term "fundamentalist" in it's proper meaning. Someone who goes by the letter of the law in their book. The whole jihad thing is specifically pointed out in the Qur'an. Those who act accordingly, using the word of their book as a motivation, are acting as fundamentalists. And here is the issue.

And here is where it gets dicey. Those who say that Islam is a kind and peaceful religion are either not fundamentalists, or they are being dishonest.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Susquehanna Birder on November 22, 2009, 08:00:12 AM
Quote from: Diomedes on November 21, 2009, 12:44:24 PM
so long as we agree to call abortion clinic bombings fundamentalist christian behavior, sounds good to me.

I'm not sure that Christian doctrine specifically permits - or even instructs its practitioners - to do such things. But if you can find specific cases, then yes...it would fit by definition.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: shorebird on November 22, 2009, 08:38:02 AM
Hasan paralyzed (http://www.nytimes.com/2009/11/22/us/22hasan.html) from the waist down. Good, guess we don't have to worry about him making a run for it.

QuoteMr. Galligan did not immediately respond to phone or e-mail messages seeking comment. Mr. Galligan previously said Mr. Hasan is paralyzed from the waist down. Speaking to reporters after the ruling, Mr. Galligan expressed concern that the judicial process would negatively affect his client's treatment.

The hearing on Saturday was closed to the public and the news media. A spokesman for the Army at Fort Hood did not answer messages. The ruling came as more concerns emerged about Mr. Hasan's connection to a radical Muslim cleric, Anwar al-Awlaki, and whether counterterrorism officials did enough after intercepting e-mail messages Mr. Hasan sent to Mr. Awlaki.

In Washington, several Congressional committees are assessing whether counterterrorism officials from the Defense Department and the Federal Bureau of Investigation should have opened an investigation this year after intercepting the messages.

Senator Carl Levin, a Michigan Democrat who is the chairman of the Senate Armed Services Committee, said after a closed briefing by Defense Department officials on Friday that the committee was considering whether officials on the Joint Terrorism Task Force who examined the e-mail messages were negligent in not alerting Army officials and others to the exchange.

"That's one of the many, many things we're going to look into," Senator Levin said. He also suggested the government might have intercepted other e-mail messages sent by Major Hasan, saying the committee was studying "whether or not other alleged e-mails that existed were properly handled as well." Senator Levin declined to elaborate on the possible additional e-mail messages that the F.B.I. intercepted, which The Washington Post disclosed on Saturday.

I wonder how many if any of these types of messages are intercepted. Does it happen daily, weekly? Is it like Sarge says? One guy on an army base isn't a threat or just plain doesn't warrant attention?? Is there that much of this kind of crap going on that it put Hasan so far down on the list, he was just ignored? That thought makes me wanna' puke. All those millions being spent, all the lives lost overseas, and stuff like this on our home soil goes virtually unnoticed by the people in charge. Were are this countries priorities? I'll tell you were, in the friggen' crapper, thats were.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Diomedes on November 22, 2009, 08:53:21 AM
Quote from: shorebird on November 22, 2009, 08:38:02 AMI wonder how many if any of these types of messages are intercepted. Does it happen daily, weekly? Is it like Sarge says? One guy on an army base isn't a threat or just plain doesn't warrant attention?? Is there that much of this kind of crap going on that it put Hasan so far down on the list, he was just ignored?

There is so much spying and surveilling of U.S. citizens by the government going on that yes, I think that's exactly what happened.  It got lost in the great wave of chatter the spooks are collecting and sifting through.  Obviously, what we need to do to prevent this is more spying.  Obviously, we need government out of health care, economic regulation, environmental oversight, and education...but we just can't get enough military government to be safe.  Once every American is being tracked, this kind of thing won't happen any more.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: shorebird on November 22, 2009, 09:23:28 AM
JFC, is that what you're getting from my post, that I think we need more spying? Geez, if thats the way I'm coming across I'm sorry. What I mean is bring home our troops, take that money and protect our borders, and if counter terrorism is going to let something like this happen then whats the point?
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: General_Failure on November 22, 2009, 09:24:56 AM
Its not like the military is issuing press releases every time they find someone going a little crazy and deal with them.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: shorebird on November 22, 2009, 09:26:55 AM
Yeah, but even with all the spying going on the military wasn't even informed, and didn't even get the chance to deal with Hasan.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: phillymic2000 on November 22, 2009, 09:36:32 AM
This was a terrorist attack, plain and simple.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Diomedes on November 22, 2009, 09:54:56 AM
Quote from: shorebird on November 22, 2009, 09:23:28 AMJFC, is that what you're getting from my post, that I think we need more spying?

No man, I just took your post and ran off on a jag.  It was fun at the time.  You're kinda sensitive, huh?

Nothing will prevent the lone gunman in the U.S.  Nothing.  Spy all you want, cc everyone in the world who could possibly care, whatever.  A dude with a gun killing dozens is as American as apple pie.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: rjs246 on November 22, 2009, 10:12:02 AM
How many consecutive pages can you all argue about the use of a single word? Jesus farging christ. Get a hobby.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Munson on November 22, 2009, 10:18:23 AM
Stop being a message board terrorist.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: shorebird on November 22, 2009, 10:42:49 AM
Quote from: Diomedes on November 22, 2009, 09:54:56 AM
Nothing will prevent the lone gunman in the U.S.  Nothing.  Spy all you want, cc everyone in the world who could possibly care, whatever.  A dude with a gun killing dozens is as American as apple pie.

I'll admit most times it's 99% unpreventable, but in this case were people witnessed his anti-american rants and reported it to thier superiors, were messages were intercepted, it seems it could have been prevented. I feel one of the reasons nothing was done is because of the heat and bad press that would have came from a left leaning media. People don't want to overstep the boundry of political correctness.

Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: mpmcgraw on November 22, 2009, 11:26:40 AM
Yeah I agree.

Its as if Chris Matthews and Wolf Blitzer pulled the trigger themselves. 
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: PhillyGirl on November 22, 2009, 03:31:14 PM
Quote from: shorebird on November 22, 2009, 10:42:49 AM
I feel one of the reasons nothing was done is because of the heat and bad press that would have came from a left leaning media. People don't want to overstep the boundry of political correctness.



LMFAO.

Give it a farging rest already.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: rjs246 on November 22, 2009, 06:02:44 PM
Summary:

- An icehole with a zesty life joins the Army.
- Shockingly his life doesn't get any better.
- The dude is Muslim and decides that his particular flavor of absurd mumbo jumbo is more important that his duties in the Army.
- Dude's life continues to suck and he rants and rants and rants and no one does anything about, probably because just like every other icehole on a soapbox, eventually normal people just tuned him out because no one gives a shtein about a ranting lunatic with a boring zesty life and nothing better to do.
- Dude snaps and has access to guns.
- Idiots spend the next several weeks talking about peripheral issues in an effort to further their own previously held beliefs about the world.

The dude was a whack job. Doesn't matter what religion he was or what his job was or whether you label him a terrorist or a mass murderer or a farging beauty queen. Now he's paralyzed and we'll have to hear about him for months if not years giving you idiots something else to rant about.

Joy.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: shorebird on November 22, 2009, 07:43:23 PM
Quote from: jihadist monk on November 22, 2009, 11:26:40 AM
Yeah I agree.

Its as if Chris Matthews and Wolf Blitzer pulled the trigger themselves.  
Quote from: PhillyGirl on November 22, 2009, 03:31:14 PM

I feel one of the reasons nothing was done is because of the heat and bad press that would have came from a left leaning media. People don't want to overstep the boundry of political correctness.

Quote from: jihadist monk on November 22, 2009, 11:26:40 AM
Yeah I agree.

Its as if Chris Matthews and Wolf Blitzer pulled the trigger themselves.  

Give it a farging rest already.

Haha! You just prove my point. Give it a rest, joke about it, forget it.

Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Eagaholic on November 25, 2009, 07:50:00 PM
http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=120765741
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on November 29, 2009, 11:39:48 PM
http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/nation/6744001.html

QuoteA man with an extensive criminal past — whose 95-year prison sentence was commuted in Arkansas nearly a decade ago — was being sought Sunday as a "person of interest" in a deadly ambush on four police officers who were gunned down inside a coffee shop.

Pierce County sheriff's spokesman Ed Troyer told reporters that Maurice Clemmons, 37, was one of several people investigators want to talk to and that he could not be called a suspect at this point.

In a news release, the sheriff's office said Clemmons has an extensive violent criminal history from Arkansas, including aggravated robbery and theft. Clemmons also recently was arrested and charged in Pierce County in Washington state for third-degree assault on a police officer, and second-degree rape of a child.

In 1989, Clemmons, then 17, was convicted in Little Rock for aggravated robbery. He was paroled in 2000 after then-Gov. Mike Huckabee commuted Clemmons' 95-year prison sentence. Huckabee, who was criticized during his run for the Republican presidential nomination in 2008 for the number of clemencies and commutations he granted, cited Clemmons' age at the time of the sentence.

After his release from prison, Clemmons violated his parole and was returned to prison in July 2001. He was released March 18, 2004, according to the Arkansas Democrat-Gazette newspaper.

The four officers were with the 100-member police department of Lakewood, which adjoins the unincorporated area of Parkland, where the shootings took place. The city identified the victims as Sgt. Mark Renninger, 39; Ronald Owens, 37; Tina Griswold, 40; and Greg Richards 42.

Sad story about the 4 officers getting executed in a coffee shop in Washington state.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: shorebird on November 30, 2009, 06:42:03 AM
Guy was in prison most of adult life, should have and would have stayed there if not for Huckabee. If's it's proven he did it, he should be executed.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: ice grillin you on November 30, 2009, 12:31:49 PM
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on November 29, 2009, 11:39:48 PM
http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/nation/6744001.html

QuoteA man with an extensive criminal past — whose 95-year prison sentence was commuted in Arkansas nearly a decade ago — was being sought Sunday as a "person of interest" in a deadly ambush on four police officers who were gunned down inside a coffee shop.

Pierce County sheriff's spokesman Ed Troyer told reporters that Maurice Clemmons, 37, was one of several people investigators want to talk to and that he could not be called a suspect at this point.

In a news release, the sheriff's office said Clemmons has an extensive violent criminal history from Arkansas, including aggravated robbery and theft. Clemmons also recently was arrested and charged in Pierce County in Washington state for third-degree assault on a police officer, and second-degree rape of a child.

In 1989, Clemmons, then 17, was convicted in Little Rock for aggravated robbery. He was paroled in 2000 after then-Gov. Mike Huckabee commuted Clemmons' 95-year prison sentence. Huckabee, who was criticized during his run for the Republican presidential nomination in 2008 for the number of clemencies and commutations he granted, cited Clemmons' age at the time of the sentence.

After his release from prison, Clemmons violated his parole and was returned to prison in July 2001. He was released March 18, 2004, according to the Arkansas Democrat-Gazette newspaper.

The four officers were with the 100-member police department of Lakewood, which adjoins the unincorporated area of Parkland, where the shootings took place. The city identified the victims as Sgt. Mark Renninger, 39; Ronald Owens, 37; Tina Griswold, 40; and Greg Richards 42.

Sad story about the 4 officers getting executed in a coffee shop in Washington state.



In recent months, Clemmons has displayed increasingly erratic behavior, the Seattle Times reported. In May, he punched a sheriff's deputy in the face, the paper said.

In another incident, he had relatives undress, telling them families need to be "naked for at least five minutes on Sunday," the newspaper said, citing a sheriff's department incident report.

Clemmons also believed he was Jesus and could fly, a deputy wrote, based on conversations with family members.


Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Seabiscuit36 on November 30, 2009, 12:40:41 PM
I cant wait to see how this guy obtained his firearm.  I'd bet anything it wasnt legally.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Eagaholic on December 02, 2009, 11:54:03 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on November 30, 2009, 12:31:49 PM
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on November 29, 2009, 11:39:48 PM
http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/nation/6744001.html

QuoteA man with an extensive criminal past — whose 95-year prison sentence was commuted in Arkansas nearly a decade ago — was being sought Sunday as a "person of interest" in a deadly ambush on four police officers who were gunned down inside a coffee shop.

Pierce County sheriff's spokesman Ed Troyer told reporters that Maurice Clemmons, 37, was one of several people investigators want to talk to and that he could not be called a suspect at this point.

In a news release, the sheriff's office said Clemmons has an extensive violent criminal history from Arkansas, including aggravated robbery and theft. Clemmons also recently was arrested and charged in Pierce County in Washington state for third-degree assault on a police officer, and second-degree rape of a child.

In 1989, Clemmons, then 17, was convicted in Little Rock for aggravated robbery. He was paroled in 2000 after then-Gov. Mike Huckabee commuted Clemmons' 95-year prison sentence. Huckabee, who was criticized during his run for the Republican presidential nomination in 2008 for the number of clemencies and commutations he granted, cited Clemmons' age at the time of the sentence.

After his release from prison, Clemmons violated his parole and was returned to prison in July 2001. He was released March 18, 2004, according to the Arkansas Democrat-Gazette newspaper.

The four officers were with the 100-member police department of Lakewood, which adjoins the unincorporated area of Parkland, where the shootings took place. The city identified the victims as Sgt. Mark Renninger, 39; Ronald Owens, 37; Tina Griswold, 40; and Greg Richards 42.

Sad story about the 4 officers getting executed in a coffee shop in Washington state.



In recent months, Clemmons has displayed increasingly erratic behavior, the Seattle Times reported. In May, he punched a sheriff's deputy in the face, the paper said.

In another incident, he had relatives undress, telling them families need to be "naked for at least five minutes on Sunday," the newspaper said, citing a sheriff's department incident report.

Clemmons also believed he was Jesus and could fly, a deputy wrote, based on conversations with family members.


And now he's dead, so I guess we'll never know. Unless of course he resurrects. That would be bad ass.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Father Demon on January 07, 2010, 01:11:11 PM
Yay!!  St. Louis on the map (http://tinyurl.com/ycxt4ok)!

We got about 6 inches of snow last night, which is a ton for St. Louis.  Roads are jammed, people run off the road, etc.  So this guy was really motivated to pop some caps in asses.....
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Sgt PSN on January 07, 2010, 01:13:19 PM
MA!
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: ice grillin you on January 07, 2010, 02:14:38 PM
i think st louis might be the only city in the us with a pro sports team that i couldnt place on a map

possibly phoenix as well
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Seabiscuit36 on January 07, 2010, 02:16:50 PM
Trains dont go there?
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: ice grillin you on January 07, 2010, 02:20:40 PM
i dont know but i found out today that trains dont go to nashville or detroit
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Seabiscuit36 on January 07, 2010, 02:27:12 PM
Phoenix is great, just dont go there in July/August.  Monsoon season is hot as farg. 
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Father Demon on January 07, 2010, 02:33:08 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on January 07, 2010, 02:14:38 PM
i think st louis might be the only city in the us with a pro sports team that i couldnt place on a map

possibly phoenix as well

I think that speaks more to your education than it does for St. Louis.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on January 07, 2010, 04:45:10 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on January 07, 2010, 02:20:40 PM
i dont know but i found out today that trains dont go to nashville or detroit

Who the hell voluntarily goes to Detroit anyways?
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: MDS on January 07, 2010, 04:59:48 PM
ive been to the airport. its not that bad.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on January 07, 2010, 05:01:02 PM
Quote from: MDS on January 07, 2010, 04:59:48 PM
ive been to the airport. its not that bad.

With explosive devices strapped to your leg?
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: General_Failure on January 07, 2010, 07:16:38 PM
Yes. He saw some panties when a girl bent over at the waist to pick up her bag. Careful, its got a hair trigger!
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: PhillyGirl on January 12, 2010, 04:12:47 PM
http://www.cnn.com/2010/CRIME/01/12/georgia.workplace.shooting/index.html
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: rjs246 on January 12, 2010, 04:25:48 PM
I'm going to start a thread titled, "Crime is on the decline around the globe and things are more or less ok with everyone but no news outlets feel compelled to report that."

It will have zero replies.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: SunMo on January 12, 2010, 04:26:07 PM
i'd respond
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: rjs246 on January 12, 2010, 04:44:51 PM
You're a doll.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: PhillyGirl on January 19, 2010, 08:19:11 PM
http://www.wset.com/news/stories/0110/697477.html?hpt=T2
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Diomedes on January 20, 2010, 06:45:18 AM
link no worky
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: PhillyGirl on January 20, 2010, 10:22:40 AM
sorry, new one

http://www.freep.com/article/20100119/NEWS07/100119073/1320/Police-8-killed-in-Virgina-shooting
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: PhillyGirl on January 20, 2010, 10:44:47 PM
http://www.cnn.com/2010/CRIME/01/20/virginia.shootings/index.html?hpt=T2
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Eagaholic on February 15, 2010, 09:30:17 PM
Not sure what constitutes a mass shooting, but I think this deserved attention.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/35404881/ns/us_news-crime_and_courts/?GT1=43001

For some reason, I could never trust women who were Harvard educated professors of neurobiology. I always just thought it was my issue, but now I understand.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: MDS on February 15, 2010, 09:42:31 PM
you never promise crazy a baby
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Diomedes on February 15, 2010, 10:10:22 PM
nope, you just give 'em one or two whether they like it or not
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: fansince61 on February 16, 2010, 02:32:03 PM
Quote from: Eagaholic on February 15, 2010, 09:30:17 PM
Not sure what constitutes a mass shooting, but I think this deserved attention.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/35404881/ns/us_news-crime_and_courts/?GT1=43001

For some reason, I could never trust women who were Harvard educated professors of neurobiology. I always just thought it was my issue, but now I understand.

Another far left lunie-tune gunman...if only the victims were allowed to carry :evil
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: phillymic2000 on February 16, 2010, 02:55:18 PM
 :-D
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Munson on February 16, 2010, 03:24:35 PM
Orrrrrrrrrrr if only there were stricter gun laws that limited the distribution of them so easily, especially to someone who has killed someone with a gun in the past....accident or not.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Sgt PSN on February 16, 2010, 06:11:09 PM
sticter gun laws wouldn't realistically accomplish anything anytime soon.  there's already so many guns, legal and illegal that are on the streets right now that you could literally cease all gun manufacturing today and 50 years from now someone will still find a way to get hold of one and shoot up their office if they so desire. 

not to mention the fact that less guns does not equal less crime/murder.  you take away my gun and i'll just start stabbing people or i'll learn how to make a bomb on the internet or i'll make my own gun.  point is, if any single person feels like killing another person/group of people then they are going to do it regardless of what type of weapon they have available. 
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: General_Failure on February 16, 2010, 06:14:12 PM
I'd love to see people try to make guns. There aren't enough stories of people in the emergency room getting treated for exploded faces and hands.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Munson on February 16, 2010, 07:30:36 PM
Quote from: Sgt PSN on February 16, 2010, 06:11:09 PM
sticter gun laws wouldn't realistically accomplish anything anytime soon.  there's already so many guns, legal and illegal that are on the streets right now that you could literally cease all gun manufacturing today and 50 years from now someone will still find a way to get hold of one and shoot up their office if they so desire. 

not to mention the fact that less guns does not equal less crime/murder.  you take away my gun and i'll just start stabbing people or i'll learn how to make a bomb on the internet or i'll make my own gun.  point is, if any single person feels like killing another person/group of people then they are going to do it regardless of what type of weapon they have available. 

I was more or less just being devils advocate to 61's semi-sarcastic post.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: PhillyGirl on February 23, 2010, 09:10:56 PM
3 miles from Columbine (http://www.9news.com/news/article.aspx?storyid=133326&catid=339&hpt=T2)
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: PhillyGirl on March 08, 2010, 02:20:05 PM
http://cbs11tv.com/local/Dallas.Office.Shooting.2.1545294.html?hpt=T2
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: hbionic on March 08, 2010, 02:21:50 PM
farging Hoydas...why can't they just turn their guns on themselves.

There are a lot of weak minded in the world. A LOT.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: rjs246 on March 08, 2010, 03:14:02 PM
Quote from: PhillyGirl on March 08, 2010, 02:20:05 PM
http://cbs11tv.com/local/Dallas.Office.Shooting.2.1545294.html?hpt=T2

Three people hardly counts as a 'mass shooting'. This is barely even news.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: PhillyGirl on July 12, 2010, 02:17:38 PM
More idiots shooting up places

http://news.blogs.cnn.com/2010/07/12/police-six-killed-in-workplace-shooting/?hpt=T1
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: hbionic on July 12, 2010, 03:03:39 PM
White people
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: ice grillin you on July 12, 2010, 03:04:08 PM
dont see women doing that to often
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: PhillyGirl on July 12, 2010, 03:08:23 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on July 12, 2010, 03:04:08 PM
dont see women doing that to often

QuoteCNN mistakenly reported earlier that the shooter was believed to be a woman.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: hbionic on July 12, 2010, 03:14:19 PM
Quote from: PhillyGirl on July 12, 2010, 03:08:23 PM
QuoteCNN mistakenly reported earlier that the shooter was believed to be a woman. It was a homosexual.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on August 03, 2010, 09:24:33 PM
So I guess we're immune to mass shootings now, eh?

QuoteMANCHESTER, Conn. – A warehouse driver who was caught on videotape stealing beer from the distributorship where he worked went on a shooting rampage there Tuesday, killing eight people before committing suicide, authorities said.

At least two people were wounded, one critically, Manchester police said. They were expected to survive.

The gunman, identified by a company executive as Omar Thornton, had complained of racial harassment and said he found a picture of a noose and a racial epithet written on a bathroom wall, the mother of his girlfriend said. Her daughter told her that Thornton's supervisors had not responded to his complaints, but a union official said Thornton had not filed a complaint of racism to the union or any government agency.

Thornton had been caught on videotape stealing beer from Hartford Distributors and was supposed to meet with company officials when the shootings began, Teamsters official Christopher Roos said.

"It's got nothing to do with race," Roos said. "This is a disgruntled employee who shot a bunch of people."
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Diomedes on August 03, 2010, 09:59:56 PM
my first lay was a girl from Manchester
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: LBIggle on August 03, 2010, 11:37:34 PM
did she kill herself too?
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: General_Failure on August 03, 2010, 11:47:54 PM
Wouldn't you?
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: LBIggle on August 04, 2010, 12:50:24 AM
yes. but your all coming with me. 
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Diomedes on August 04, 2010, 06:34:26 AM
Quote from: LBIggle on August 03, 2010, 11:37:34 PM
did she kill herself too?

her cop father had killed himself

I swooped in for the kill in her time of need
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: PhillyGirl on August 04, 2011, 10:13:33 AM
Not sure what this will lead to but:

QuoteBREAKING -- Virginia Tech warns: Person with a gun reported on campus."

Quote
Virginia Tech alert: "Person with gun reported near Dietrick. Stay inside. Secure doors. Emergency personnel responding. Call 911 for help."

QuoteWSLS-TV reports that Virginia Tech campus siren system has been activated.

QuoteOnly reports that a gunman has been spotted on campus, but no reports at this point that shots have been fired.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: QB Eagles on August 04, 2011, 06:21:27 PM
To recap, three 14-year old girls at Virginia Tech saw a man with something covered up that they thought could possibly be a gun.

This was the top national news story around 11am today.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: PhillyGirl on October 12, 2011, 05:41:03 PM
Six people are dead and three are in critical condition after a shooting at at a salon in Seal Beach, California.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Sgt PSN on October 12, 2011, 05:45:13 PM
Disgruntled, spoiled teenage girls who got bad hair do's for homecoming?
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: General_Failure on October 12, 2011, 06:21:54 PM
Finally! Something to take the heat off spoiled teenage boys.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: ice grillin you on October 12, 2011, 07:02:03 PM
supposedly was a domestic dispute with one of the stylists.....must have wiped out the whole gossipy circle in one swoop

dooks also wore body armor just in case hair dryers doubled as uzi's
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: phattymatty on December 08, 2011, 01:53:57 PM
VTech gettin all shot up again.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: paco on December 08, 2011, 01:58:49 PM
I blame Vick
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Seabiscuit36 on December 08, 2011, 02:11:28 PM
and CNN is reporitng on a farging building fire in St Louis
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: ice grillin you on December 08, 2011, 02:27:34 PM
112 seconds ago
Subject headed toward Christiansburg in burgundy mitsubishi kmp-1811 #vt #hokies
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: ice grillin you on December 27, 2011, 09:53:04 AM
GRAPEVINE, Texas — Investigators in suburban Fort Worth are trying to piece together the history of a family targeted in a Christmas Day shooting that police believe was carried out by a relative dressed in a Santa Claus suit.

The names of the seven people found dead inside the Grapevine apartment, including the alleged gunman, were expected to be released Tuesday, police said.

Grapevine police spokesman Sgt. Robert Eberling said the shooter showed up in the costume shortly before gunfire erupted, and the family appeared to have been opening Christmas presents. Police responding to a 911 call found four females and three males dead. They also found two handguns.

"We think he was just inside there celebrating Christmas with the rest of them and decided for whatever reason that's how he's going to end things," Eberling told The Associated Press.


Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: phattymatty on July 20, 2012, 11:18:20 AM
one of the girls shot in CO last night was basically in the middle of that food court shooting in Toronto last month.

her last blog post: http://jessicaredfield.wordpress.com/2012/06/05/late-night-thoughts-on-the-eaton-center-shooting/

what zesty luck.

edit: deadspin article: http://deadspin.com/5927673/aspiring-sportscaster-killed-in-shooting-at-colorado-movie-theater
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Seabiscuit36 on July 20, 2012, 11:24:48 AM
Final Destination was based in truth?
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: PoopyfaceMcGee on July 20, 2012, 11:35:56 AM
Quote from: phattymatty on July 20, 2012, 11:18:20 AM
one of the girls shot in CO last night was basically in the middle of that food court shooting in Toronto last month.

her last blog post: http://jessicaredfield.wordpress.com/2012/06/05/late-night-thoughts-on-the-eaton-center-shooting/

what zesty luck.

edit: deadspin article: http://deadspin.com/5927673/aspiring-sportscaster-killed-in-shooting-at-colorado-movie-theater

Her last few tweets are creepy.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: BigEd76 on July 20, 2012, 01:17:43 PM
QuoteTanner Coon, who was in the theater with a friend and the friend's 12-year-old brother when the shooter came in, said he told them to "get down" when he heard the gunshots.

The shooter fired off about 20 rounds and there was then a pause and a "period of quietness when everybody started running out," Coon said.

"I slipped on some blood and landed on a lady. I shook her and said, 'We need to go.' There was no response, so I presume she was dead," Coon said.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: hbionic on July 20, 2012, 01:20:59 PM
Sad, sad series of events for that Coon.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: General_Failure on July 20, 2012, 02:41:04 PM
http://livewire.talkingpointsmemo.com/entries/president-obama-issues-proclamation-orders-flags-half-mast
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Don Ho on July 20, 2012, 04:36:24 PM
Just a horrible event.  Son and I were watching the initial reports come across the news last night.  Unreal.

Just saw the chick that took her 4 month old son to the movie in Aurora!  Genius.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: MDS on July 20, 2012, 05:07:51 PM
Hooray for guns

Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Hawk on July 20, 2012, 05:22:39 PM
http://www.barstoolsports.com/philly/super-page/somebody-at-celeb-boutique-better-have-gotten-their-ass-canned/

What an out-of-touch bull shtein company...

Did they really think their crap Kim Kardashian line was trending?
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Diomedes on July 20, 2012, 05:24:07 PM
my balls are trending on your mom's chin
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Rome on July 20, 2012, 05:29:52 PM
The victims were weak.  If they were armed and in full body armor like they should have been no one would have died.

- Sarah Palin
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Diomedes on July 20, 2012, 05:44:58 PM
ha, that's great
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: phattymatty on July 21, 2012, 10:40:34 AM
i don't often give praise to the piggies but this aurora police chief is really impressive. his public demeanor is badass.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: ice grillin you on July 29, 2012, 09:40:17 PM
one of the "best" and most chilling reads i have ever experienced

http://www.gq.com/news-politics/newsmakers/201208/anders-behring-breivik-norway-massacre-story
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: SunMo on July 30, 2012, 11:29:01 AM
someone just put this on their facebook.  literally makes me sick that people are this stupid.

QuoteSo I just read that the cinemark theater in Colorado, yes where the shootings happened, has a policy to not allow concealed weapons in there theater! So because those idiots put an 8x11 sheet of paper in there window saying no fire arms allowed no one in the audience had the ability to fight back! I hope to hell that everyone of those victims who has a concealed carry permit sues the pants off that company!! Wise up everyone! Gun control kills people! Unfortunately if a business displays an 8x11 sign stating no firearms on every entrance it is illegal for a civilian to carry a weapon into that establishment. And as we see in Colorado it's only the responsible gun owners that actually listen to the laws!!
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Sgt PSN on July 30, 2012, 12:11:45 PM
So, I guess the 9/11 victims should sue the airlines because the passengers on the planes weren't armed to defend themselves during the hijacking.

Also, is this someone you know or just a random message being passed around? 
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: SunMo on July 30, 2012, 12:16:54 PM
It's someone I knew in HS but I don't know if he wrote it or is sharing it.

However, I think as a sign of my growing maturity, instead of starting a stupid flame war on the internet, I simply unfriended him and will go about my day.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Sgt PSN on July 30, 2012, 12:19:34 PM
That was probably the best decision.  I know if I want to be involved in a flame war, I log into :CF. 
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Tomahawk on July 30, 2012, 12:42:01 PM
Same thing with the person who posted this:

(https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/s480x480/396822_10150974364052869_441864288_n.jpg)

I'm an ardent supporter of free speech, but can't say the same for open bigotry.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: SunMo on July 30, 2012, 12:48:07 PM
yeah, that shtein is ridiculous too

Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Zanshin on July 30, 2012, 01:00:42 PM
Turns out a lot of people are ignorant, argumentative and unreasonable. Who knew?
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: PoopyfaceMcGee on July 30, 2012, 02:48:28 PM
Usually, a firm opinion one way or the other on a divisive issue is a sign of blinders.

For instance, these people are nuts:

QuoteThe American Humane Association monitored the filming of scenes involving Brooks' crow. During the scene where he fed it a maggot, the AHA objected on the grounds that it was cruel to the maggot, and required that they use a maggot that had died from natural causes. One was found, and the scene was filmed.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Tomahawk on July 30, 2012, 03:08:41 PM
Why would the AHA care about maggots? farging idiot Jainists.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Sgt PSN on July 30, 2012, 07:27:19 PM
Quote from: Tomahawk on July 30, 2012, 12:42:01 PM
Same thing with the person who posted this:

(https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/s480x480/396822_10150974364052869_441864288_n.jpg)

I'm an ardent supporter of free speech, but can't say the same for open bigotry.

There's 2 things I don't get. 

1.  What's the relevance of 8-1-12?  Is there going to be some sort of rally to support Chick-fil-A? 

2.  What does that have to do with mass shootings? 
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Tomahawk on July 31, 2012, 12:50:24 AM
It was in response to SunMo's post about not starting flamewars on facebook.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Eagaholic on July 31, 2012, 01:38:00 AM
Quote from: SunMo on July 30, 2012, 12:16:54 PM
It's someone I knew in HS but I don't know if he wrote it or is sharing it.

However, I think as a sign of my growing maturity, instead of starting a stupid flame war on the internet, I simply unfriended him and will go about my day.

or you could just shoot him
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: hbionic on July 31, 2012, 04:24:30 AM
...at a theater nearest you?

Too soon?
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: ice grillin you on July 31, 2012, 07:16:49 AM
some guy in baltimore who has a tricked out lamborgini that looks like the batmobile and dresses up as batman to entertain kids with cancer has been told by baltimore area hospitals that he needs to stop doing it
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: shorebird on July 31, 2012, 07:50:31 AM
This crap makes me sick. After a terrible thing like this happens, the radicals on both sides want to jump on it to promote their own political agendas. The left says that we need more stringent guns laws to prevent this kind of thing from happening, when in reality, if the nut that did it didn't have a gun, he'd have used a pipe bomb or one of the many other devises found in his home. The right says we need to arm everyone to prevent this kind of thing from happening, when in reality if you arm everyone it will lead to us going back to the wild wild west. Cops and paramedics wouldn't be able to keep up on the weekends. Not to mention how in home accidents would probably go through the roof. People are stupid and most shouldn't have guns in their homes, I don't care what the constitution says. When 'the right to bear arms' was put into the constitution, it was to protect people from foreign enemies, not your friggen' neighbor.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Tomahawk on July 31, 2012, 08:26:49 AM
(http://image.spreadshirt.com/image-server/v1/compositions/1282904/views/1,width=178,height=178,interlace=true/right-to-bear-arms_design.png)

I think it was put into the constitution to protect people from our own government moreso than foreign enemies. It didn't work.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: ice grillin you on July 31, 2012, 10:55:50 AM
Quote from: shorebird on July 31, 2012, 07:50:31 AM
This crap makes me sick. After a terrible thing like this happens, the radicals on both sides want to jump on it to promote their own political agendas. The left says that we need more stringent guns laws to prevent this kind of thing from happening, when in reality, if the nut that did it didn't have a gun, he'd have used a pipe bomb or one of the many other devises found in his home.

he might have made a pipe bomb that he might have successfully set off that might have injured and killed the same amount of people...certainly possible but all speculative

what isnt speculative is that large ammo clips along with automatic and semi automatic guns kill mass quantities of humans and really arent useful for much else...i have to imagine many guns rights advocates are even against these kinds of weapons being on the street

and its just insanity that they are sold at bass prop shops
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Tomahawk on July 31, 2012, 10:59:57 AM
I thought fully automatic weapons were pretty much illegal everywhere
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Sgt PSN on July 31, 2012, 11:03:04 AM
Arguing need vs want is pointless. I agree that no one "needs" an Uzi, but we also don't need tobacco, booze, cable tv, McDonalds, soda or roughly 98% of consumer products on the market, but we have them anyway.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: ice grillin you on July 31, 2012, 11:04:22 AM
Quote from: Tomahawk on July 31, 2012, 10:59:57 AM
I thought fully automatic weapons were pretty much illegal everywhere

they are supposed to be highly regulated but to my knowledge they are not illegal...someone else who knows way more about gun laws than i can correct me if im wrong...but i beleive even machine guns are legal to own
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Sgt PSN on July 31, 2012, 11:06:34 AM
Even if they are illegal, it takes little effort to convert them them fully auto.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: ice grillin you on July 31, 2012, 11:07:23 AM
Quote from: Sgt PSN on July 31, 2012, 11:03:04 AM
Arguing need vs want is pointless. I agree that no one "needs" an Uzi, but we also don't need tobacco, booze, cable tv, McDonalds, soda or roughly 98% of consumer products on the market, but we have them anyway.

pretty sure mass murder by semi automatic gunfire is a little different than watching mad men while eating a big mac
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Seabiscuit36 on July 31, 2012, 11:25:29 AM
Quote from: ice grillin you on July 31, 2012, 11:04:22 AM
Quote from: Tomahawk on July 31, 2012, 10:59:57 AM
I thought fully automatic weapons were pretty much illegal everywhere

they are supposed to be highly regulated but to my knowledge they are not illegal...someone else who knows way more about gun laws than i can correct me if im wrong...but i beleive even machine guns are legal to own
They are illegal unless you have a Class III license which runs about 12k a year or something wild.  Usually its just the rich or shop owners who rent them out at rangest. 
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Diomedes on August 05, 2012, 12:47:37 PM
Breaking...Multiple people shot at a Sikh temple in Milwaukee.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Munson on August 05, 2012, 01:32:47 PM
Quote from: Diomedes on August 05, 2012, 12:47:37 PM
Breaking...Multiple people shot at a Sikh temple in Milwaukee.
if this was a white right winger or a muslim of a different demonination, the news is going to be unbearable for weeks.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Munson on August 05, 2012, 01:34:12 PM
Make that "more unbearable"
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Sgt PSN on August 05, 2012, 01:37:04 PM
The description of the shooter is big, bald white dude. 
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Munson on August 05, 2012, 01:42:07 PM
Ah nevermind, I thought that said Shia on my phone. I have no idea what the hell religion Sikh is. Though that sounds like a denomination of Islam too.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: General_Failure on August 05, 2012, 02:08:32 PM
It isn't. And it seems that this is still ongoing, and has turned into a hostage situation with multiple gunmen.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: ice grillin you on August 05, 2012, 03:18:49 PM
http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2012/07/mass-shootings-map
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: rjs246 on August 05, 2012, 03:43:58 PM
Sikhs aren't Muslim but ignorant honkies see headgear and work themselves into an anti-terrorism lather. People are the worst.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: phattymatty on August 05, 2012, 04:07:42 PM
people make me sikh.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: rjs246 on August 05, 2012, 04:14:29 PM
I think you meant to type puns. Stupid auto correct.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Munson on August 05, 2012, 04:54:27 PM
People make me puns.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: General_Failure on August 05, 2012, 07:49:27 PM
People make puns Sikh. Idiots.

History of hate crimes against Sikhs since 9/11. (http://www.buzzfeed.com/summeranne/a-tragic-history-of-hate-crimes-against-sikhs-in-t)
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: hbionic on August 05, 2012, 08:21:12 PM
Quote from: Munson on August 05, 2012, 04:54:27 PM
People make me puns.

:-D :-D :-D
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: rjs246 on August 05, 2012, 08:30:46 PM
Quote from: General_Failure on August 05, 2012, 07:49:27 PM

History of hate crimes against Sikhs since 9/11. (http://www.buzzfeed.com/summeranne/a-tragic-history-of-hate-crimes-against-sikhs-in-t)

That just made me really upset and I wish I hadn't clicked on the link. Butthole.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: hbionic on August 05, 2012, 08:31:08 PM
farging white people.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Diomedes on August 05, 2012, 11:15:10 PM
Quote from: General_Failure on August 05, 2012, 07:49:27 PMHistory of hate crimes against Sikhs since 9/11. (http://www.buzzfeed.com/summeranne/a-tragic-history-of-hate-crimes-against-sikhs-in-t)

How many people who read this sort of posting actually learn something from it?  I mean, it's just a circlejerk, isn't it?  Hawk's homeboys aren't taking this in.  To them, he's the liberal.  It's hard to see the litany of crimes laid out in black and white, but seriously...no one who reads it has anything to do with the people who perpetrate, condone, and celebrate it.  We are so divorced from each other that I find these kinds of articles useless. 

We've got to find a way to reach the people who target Sikhs--and blog postings farging ain't the way--or we have to just snuff them out.

I'm increasingly willing to endorse the latter proposition.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: General_Failure on August 08, 2012, 01:38:59 AM
Ex-girlfriend of Wisconsin gunman arrested on weapon charge (http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/08/08/us-usa-wisconsin-shooting-cook-idUSBRE87705420120808)

QuoteFederal authorities said they were treating the attack as a possible act of domestic terrorism. Page was involved in white supremacist groups and was a member of skinhead rock bands.


Quote from: Diomedes on August 05, 2012, 11:15:10 PM
Quote from: General_Failure on August 05, 2012, 07:49:27 PMHistory of hate crimes against Sikhs since 9/11. (http://www.buzzfeed.com/summeranne/a-tragic-history-of-hate-crimes-against-sikhs-in-t)

How many people who read this sort of posting actually learn something from it?  I mean, it's just a circlejerk, isn't it?

Sometimes news is okay just being news and not educational. I would say that I'd prefer if people saw more of this kind of news, but I'd rather it weren't news in the first place. If the choice is between something like this an "A Terrorist Fist Jab" then I think I'd prefer if more people saw this kind of news.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Diomedes on August 08, 2012, 06:46:21 AM
My point is, if a million people read this, maybe five of them came over from Fox News, and they didn't bother to finish the article.  It's preaching to the converted.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: General_Failure on August 08, 2012, 12:14:58 PM
And my point is it isn't preaching, just news like news should be.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Sgt PSN on August 08, 2012, 12:30:26 PM
Quote from: Diomedes on August 08, 2012, 06:46:21 AM
My point is, if a million people read this, maybe five of them came over from Fox News, and they didn't bother to finish the article.  It's preaching to the converted.

Pretty much.  The only people who read it and agree with it are people who agreed with it before it was even written.  Stories like that aren't converting anyone or changing people's minds.  They're just giving people something to post on their facebook to share with friends who think exactly like they do. 
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: PoopyfaceMcGee on August 13, 2012, 02:24:04 PM
Latest locale: Texas A&M University. Many people shot, still being sorted out.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on August 13, 2012, 02:27:09 PM
All the ex-Aggies here in my office are trippin out
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: General_Failure on August 13, 2012, 02:35:49 PM
Quote from: FastFreddie on August 13, 2012, 02:24:04 PM
Latest locale: Texas A&M University. Many people shot, still being sorted out.

Well, nobody can use the "if they were armed" excuse this time.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: rjs246 on August 13, 2012, 02:40:15 PM
Quote from: General_Failure on August 13, 2012, 02:35:49 PM
Quote from: FastFreddie on August 13, 2012, 02:24:04 PM
Latest locale: Texas A&M University. Many people shot, still being sorted out.

Well, nobody can use the "if they were armed" excuse this time.

That was my first thought too.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: PoopyfaceMcGee on August 13, 2012, 02:43:55 PM
Quote from: rjs246 on August 13, 2012, 02:40:15 PM
Quote from: General_Failure on August 13, 2012, 02:35:49 PM
Quote from: FastFreddie on August 13, 2012, 02:24:04 PM
Latest locale: Texas A&M University. Many people shot, still being sorted out.

Well, nobody can use the "if they were armed" excuse this time.

That was my first thought too.

Some of those shot were armed officers, and yeah, might have been a few others armed in the area.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: General_Failure on August 14, 2012, 02:34:08 AM
Why Oak Creek Isn't Being Treated as a Tragedy for All Americans (http://www.newyorker.com/online/blogs/newsdesk/2012/08/an-american-tragedy.html#ixzz23V2gPp6E)

QuoteThe media has treated the shootings in Oak Creek very differently from those that happened just two weeks earlier in Aurora. Only one network sent an anchor to report live from Oak Creek, and none of the networks gave the murders in Wisconsin the kind of extensive coverage that the Colorado shootings received.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: rjs246 on August 24, 2012, 09:35:48 AM
Five people shot in front of the Empire State Building according to cnn.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: ice grillin you on August 24, 2012, 10:13:55 AM
QuoteA dispute between coworkers exploded into gunfire outside the Empire State Building this morning — with the guman killing an innocent bystander before he was fatally shot by police, sources said.

There were a total of 10 people struck — and the 9 a.m. shooting sent panicked pedestrians scrambling from the jam-packed intersection of 34th Street and Fifth Avenue.

"This is the last thing you are expecting to see walking to work – someone shot dead in broad daylight in Midtown," said Sid Dinsay, 38, who works in a PR firm on Fifth Avenue.

"I am shocked – something like this is enough to rattle your nerves. My nerves are rattled right now."

It's unclear what sparked the deadly argument, which happened in the heart of the morning rush on a street loaded with commuters and tourists.

The two men fought right on the sidewalk before one suddenly drew his weapon and opened fire.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: DH on August 24, 2012, 10:32:47 AM
My buddy was there earlier today - enjoy..

(https://mail-attachment.googleusercontent.com/attachment/?saduie=AG9B_P90tmDR-qsDh0cwl2I5DMbe&attid=0.2&disp=emb&view=att&th=139590b42b88ec0b)
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Seabiscuit36 on August 24, 2012, 11:07:14 AM
Sounds like a mob hit. 

Shotguns should be banned, according to CNN they didn't that you could fire so many rounds. 
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: SunMo on August 24, 2012, 11:07:36 AM
picture doesn't work dh
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: DH on August 24, 2012, 11:18:37 AM
dammit...its a good pic, and it works for me. maybe because i pulled it from my gchat
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: SunMo on August 24, 2012, 11:25:01 AM
save it to your computer, host it on photobucket, post it
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Seabiscuit36 on August 24, 2012, 11:31:09 AM
Dude have .45, not a shotty.  Disgruntled worker offing his boss. 
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: ice grillin you on August 24, 2012, 11:31:48 AM
Quote from: SunMo on August 24, 2012, 11:25:01 AM
save it to your computer, host it on photobucket, post it

at that point it better be on some bud dwyer shtein
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: DH on August 24, 2012, 11:43:17 AM
(http://i1052.photobucket.com/albums/s446/eaglesfan5454/66a6805a.jpg)
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: ice grillin you on August 24, 2012, 11:45:20 AM
not bad
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: hbionic on August 24, 2012, 11:46:46 AM
Nice work Parker. But did you get any of the Spider Man? Get back out there and bring me back the Spider Man!
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Tomahawk on August 24, 2012, 12:10:42 PM
holy shtein...all that blood...that's just tragic.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on August 24, 2012, 12:28:01 PM
Damn - he should sell that shtein to TMZ
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: hbionic on August 24, 2012, 12:28:17 PM
So, if it was less blood, it wouldn't be tragic?
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Sgt PSN on August 24, 2012, 01:08:25 PM
Not for the cleaning crew.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: SunMo on August 24, 2012, 01:14:22 PM
i don't think that's blood, i think that one of the EMTs was drinking a cherry slushie and dropped it when he saw that guy sleeping
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Rome on August 24, 2012, 01:14:56 PM
I think it's Eli Manning.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: MDS on August 24, 2012, 02:09:15 PM
another win for guns

they extend their record to 329539258930425893258934589438534985349859043895-0. unbelievable winning streak for guns. cant beat these guys.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on August 24, 2012, 02:16:06 PM
Its not the guns, stupid. They're inanimate objects and quite frankly everyone should be armed.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: ice grillin you on August 24, 2012, 02:17:03 PM
if guns were allowed in the empire state building this would have never happened
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Tomahawk on August 24, 2012, 02:17:44 PM
I walk around with a veritable gun show.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: MDS on August 24, 2012, 02:19:23 PM
youre right, there would be no empire state building because everyone would be dead

i know barry cant do anything until after he gets elected but god damnit he needs to be a killer liberal and do something about this. remember in 08 when repub propaganda tried to scare the base into thinking he was coming for their guns? well, farging do it.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: ice grillin you on August 24, 2012, 02:23:18 PM
i actually wouldnt want him to...because it would only serve to empower the nutso right and allow them to say i told you he was coming for our guns

guns is like my least important issue because i know nothing real will ever be done about them...theres no point in even getting upset about it...i just get annoyed at the dumb asses that defend the amount of guns there are in the country and defend some of the kinds of guns people have...

they can have as many and whatever kinds of guns they want with virtually no limtations...yet they still wanna bitch

just shut the farg up and go back into your woods
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: MDS on August 24, 2012, 02:31:11 PM
hes playing with house money though

hes not trying to get elected, hes not running for anything. he can do whatever.

and no signing strict anti gun legislation isnt going to eliminate gun violence but it could stop nut jobs like james holmes for buying semi autos and blowing up a move theater.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: ice grillin you on August 24, 2012, 02:44:04 PM
i get what you are saying but the last thing any democrat should do is alienate the party brand to ALL gun owners...gun owners arent a monolithic voting bloc like conservative christians who would never ever vote for a pro choice candidate...lots of gun owners do and would consider voting democrat...specifically the reagan type democrats in the rust belt who are so key to every election...going balls deep into gun owners would be political suicide
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: General_Failure on August 24, 2012, 03:00:42 PM
Quote from: Tomahawk on August 24, 2012, 02:17:44 PM
I walk around with a veritable gun show.

Tell us more about your sleeveless shirt collection.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Sgt PSN on August 24, 2012, 03:48:22 PM
Quote from: MDS on August 24, 2012, 02:31:11 PM
signing strict anti gun legislation isnt going to eliminate gun violence but it could stop nut jobs like james holmes for buying semi autos and blowing up a move theater.

Right. Because obviously people who want to commit gun crimes won't do it if they can't purchase their guns legally. 
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Seabiscuit36 on August 24, 2012, 03:50:15 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on August 24, 2012, 02:44:04 PM
i get what you are saying but the last thing any democrat should do is alienate the party brand to ALL gun owners...gun owners arent a monolithic voting bloc like conservative christians who would never ever vote for a pro choice candidate...lots of gun owners do and would consider voting democrat...specifically the reagan type democrats in the rust belt who are so key to every election...going balls deep into gun owners would be political suicide
Clinton's assault weapon ban is what gave rise to Bush's power.  As you said, its political suicide no matter what party goes that route.

And i'll reiterate, Straw purchases should have been banned in the early 90's, how its going on now is just mind boggling.  The mental stability part of a handgun purchase could certainly use tuning up, I'm just not sure how you'd go about doing a more thorough exam.   Right now its basically a check here system if you're crazy.  Bringing in a psychologist to review each applicant would be the best bet.

   
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Seabiscuit36 on August 24, 2012, 03:52:45 PM
Quote from: Sgt PSN on August 24, 2012, 03:48:22 PM
Quote from: MDS on August 24, 2012, 02:31:11 PM
signing strict anti gun legislation isnt going to eliminate gun violence but it could stop nut jobs like james holmes for buying semi autos and blowing up a move theater.

Right. Because obviously people who want to commit gun crimes won't do it if they can't purchase their guns legally. 
I'm not sure the actually %'s but if i took an IGY like stab i'd say 90% of inner city related gun violence is from unregistered, illegally obtained weapons.  But why bring that up when its just another shooting in a bad neighborhood.  The sexy news story is whackjobs. 
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: General_Failure on August 24, 2012, 04:55:53 PM
Quote from: Seabiscuit36 on August 24, 2012, 03:52:45 PM
I'm not sure the actually %'s but if i took an IGY like stab i'd say 90% of inner city related gun violence is from unregistered, illegally obtained weapons.  But why bring that up when its just another shooting in a bad neighborhood.  The sexy news story is whackjobs. 

Meanwhile, in Chicago... (http://www.upi.com/Top_News/US/2012/08/24/Eight-hurt-in-Chicago-drive-by-shooting/UPI-72021345809426/?spt=hs&or=tn)
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Diomedes on August 24, 2012, 06:40:16 PM
One thing that I've been impressed by with all of these recent shootings:  cops.

I bear no love for them generally.  When I've met them socially, I tend to find other people to talk to.  I see them as the enemy in a way, and I'm afraid of them.

That said, the cops who respond to these things are some ballsy fargers.  In Michigan, the cop who went in first found a victim and started to render aid, only to be ambushed by the nazi shooter, who was in turn then shot by the second cop who entered the temple.  They get training and all that, but still...they're people.  When everyone else is running out, these people are running in and I am very glad they do. 
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: General_Failure on August 24, 2012, 07:25:48 PM
4:13 PM EST: The Guardian is now reporting that all nine civilians injured in today's shootout were shot accidentally by police. Johnson never actually fired on the officers; he just aimed his gun at them. (http://gawker.com/5937573/breaking-reports-of-mass-shooting-near-empire-state-building)

So ballsy. So brave.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Seabiscuit36 on August 25, 2012, 10:41:51 AM
LMAO. 
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: ice grillin you on August 26, 2012, 02:49:23 PM
Quote from: Diomedes on August 24, 2012, 06:40:16 PM
One thing that I've been impressed by with all of these recent shootings:  cops.

I bear no love for them generally.  When I've met them socially, I tend to find other people to talk to.  I see them as the enemy in a way, and I'm afraid of them.

That said, the cops who respond to these things are some ballsy fargers.  In Michigan, the cop who went in first found a victim and started to render aid, only to be ambushed by the nazi shooter, who was in turn then shot by the second cop who entered the temple.  They get training and all that, but still...they're people.  When everyone else is running out, these people are running in and I am very glad they do.

bahahah
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Munson on August 27, 2012, 11:48:51 AM
There's apparently been a shooting at a high school today..
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: hbionic on August 27, 2012, 11:56:45 AM
It has to be a white shooter in middle america for it to matter.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: MDS on October 21, 2012, 02:43:16 PM
http://news.blogs.cnn.com/2012/10/21/shooting-reported-at-wisconsin-spa/?hpt=hp_t1

another huge win for guns. man they keep getting it done week in and week out.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Diomedes on October 21, 2012, 04:36:09 PM
It is very hard to kill seven people with a knife.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: SD on December 11, 2012, 09:48:52 PM
Gunmen opens fire outside a mall in Oregon, 3 dead:
http://www.cnn.com/2012/12/11/us/oregon-mall-shooting/?hpt=hp_t1
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Diomedes on December 11, 2012, 10:28:55 PM
I'm sorry, I was reading about all the mass stabbing deaths, didn't notice this trend.  Have you folks been reading about the drive-by stabbing epidemic in LA?  They're using shurikens.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on December 11, 2012, 10:56:22 PM
drive by stabbings, mass poisonings and those blunt force trauma beatings - all srs probs!

Look - I am all for gun ownership. I believe we should be allowed to possess handgun, shotguns and rifles. But this is getting, or has been for a long time, out of control.

I liked your previous thoughts, Dio, on leveling harsh sentences immediately when a crime is committed while in possession or if you're a scumbag who does straw purchases for people.

The NRA and the gun industry are ridiculous. I have always thought that if any politician or group of 'em led a significant uprising that got close to strict control laws they would be killed or framed for a crime and locked up.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: ice grillin you on December 12, 2012, 07:12:38 AM
anyone see stewart take apart fox news the other day over gun talk?
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on December 14, 2012, 12:45:20 PM
A Connecticut school shooting today...like 20 kids and a coupl adults shot.

Jesus Christ this is getting old.

Cut the nra saying if the kids were packing in school they could have shot back!
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: BigEd76 on December 14, 2012, 12:53:14 PM
up to 27 dead, including at least a dozen kids, the principal and the school psychologist
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on December 14, 2012, 01:04:19 PM
http://www.courant.com/news/breaking/hc-police-responding-to-incident-in-newtown-20121214,0,3969911.story

christ almighty
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Diomedes on December 14, 2012, 02:08:48 PM
Yeah, I'm losing patience with people who say "now is not the time to talk about gun control." 

When was the last time someone stabbed 25+ people to death at a farging elementary school?
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: DH on December 14, 2012, 02:08:57 PM
god bless the first responders who have to be at the scene...seeing something like that would scar me for life.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Rome on December 14, 2012, 02:14:13 PM
I'm pro gun ownership but days like today leave me soul sick.

Maybe there is no alternative but a 100% ban.

Don't know.  I feel so bad for those families.  Ugh...
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: General_Failure on December 14, 2012, 02:17:15 PM
Quote from: Diomedes on December 14, 2012, 02:08:48 PM
Yeah, I'm losing patience with people who say "now is not the time to talk about gun control." 

When was the last time someone stabbed 25+ people to death at a farging elementary school?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Osaka_school_massacre comes close in 2001, but too many of the kids survived.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: DH on December 14, 2012, 02:27:49 PM
heres the SOB..

(https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/s720x720/150996_10100120293003893_1030729465_n.jpg)
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: reese125 on December 14, 2012, 02:29:22 PM
just unreal--some 20 kids dead, 10 adults. I'm sure this dude's weird facebook/twitter rants and suicidal thoughts journal will pop up tomorrow

Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: DH on December 14, 2012, 02:31:31 PM
https://twitter.com/Bitch_Lanza (https://twitter.com/Bitch_Lanza)

His last tweet 7 hours ago "it's gameday fellas"
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on December 14, 2012, 02:52:47 PM
http://inagist.com/all/279670500018487300/

Wow...so if that is really him posting to his FB account and the news people got it wrong (not sure about which networkswere showing it but I know FOX was because thats the channel my mother had on)...then they farged up pretty big. Or the alternative is someone hacked his FB account and is making it seem like it isnt him but it really is.

The dude walked into the office and started shooting while the morning announcements were going on...and people heard it
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: hbionic on December 14, 2012, 02:56:58 PM
Is anyone else impressed by phreak's reporting skills?
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: reese125 on December 14, 2012, 03:24:31 PM
Obama sheddding tears talking about it. Can't blame him.

Once you start talking about dead little children and you can't help but to feel emotion as a father.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Diomedes on December 14, 2012, 03:25:37 PM
It's real simple:  we Americans like our guns so much that we're willing to tolerate these incidents every few weeks.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Geowhizzer on December 14, 2012, 03:26:05 PM
Horrific.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: MDS on December 14, 2012, 04:02:37 PM
its now unclear if the shooter was adam or ryan lanza.

gotta love the news media just throwing shtein out there.

also, guns are terrific.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on December 14, 2012, 04:06:49 PM
Quote from: MDS on December 14, 2012, 04:02:37 PM
its now unclear if the shooter was adam or ryan lanza.

gotta love the news media just throwing shtein out there.

also, guns are terrific.

Yeah NYP is saying Adam, 20...Ryan, 24 is the brother.

The mother and father were shot to death as well.

Obama's speech was tough - he broke down. He needs to corral these pols and get something done
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: ice grillin you on December 14, 2012, 04:08:27 PM
guns arent the problem....bored white people with nothing better to do are the problem....god they love their mass shootings......cowards

take em all mix em up in a blender and feed them to the homeless
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: MDS on December 14, 2012, 04:12:52 PM
a neighbor called the boys "disturbed." so obviously this was quite the home situation.

we cant have a gun debate in this country because of the far right but i cant wait to find out how easy it was for this lunatic to get his hands on some guns. thats the farging issue but it cant be discussed but cletus and maude need to protect themselves and shoot deer
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: ice grillin you on December 14, 2012, 04:13:27 PM
QuoteFirst grade teacher Kaitlin Roig, 29, locked her 14 students in a classroom bathroom and listened to "tons of shooting" until police came to help.

"It was horrific," Roig said. "I thought we were going to die."

She said that the terrified kids were saying, "I just want Christmas...I don't want to die. I just want to have Christmas."
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Diomedes on December 14, 2012, 04:16:35 PM
Quote from: MDS on December 14, 2012, 04:12:52 PMwe cant have a gun debate in this country because of the far right

Wrong.  We can't have a debate, much less better control over guns, because what passes for the left in this country loves their guns almost as much as the whacko right. 

Americans love guns more than children.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on December 14, 2012, 04:18:22 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on December 14, 2012, 04:13:27 PM
QuoteFirst grade teacher Kaitlin Roig, 29, locked her 14 students in a classroom bathroom and listened to "tons of shooting" until police came to help.

"It was horrific," Roig said. "I thought we were going to die."

She said that the terrified kids were saying, "I just want Christmas...I don't want to die. I just want to have Christmas."

My god that is sad
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: MDS on December 14, 2012, 04:24:04 PM
Quote from: Diomedes on December 14, 2012, 04:16:35 PM
Quote from: MDS on December 14, 2012, 04:12:52 PMwe cant have a gun debate in this country because of the far right

Wrong.  We can't have a debate, much less better control over guns, because what passes for the left in this country loves their guns almost as much as the whacko right. 

Americans love guns more than children.

americans are stupid and over react to anything. the right has turned gun control into gun ban like they turned pro choice into pro death.

very few are for a gun ban. i am not. i am just for unbelievably strict rules for obtaining a gun...significant background checks, home visits, interviews with co workers and friends, up the funhole taxation, etc. you want a gun you better be willing to pay for it.

of course there will still be a black market for them but many do not know how to traverse that and it could limit crimes
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Diomedes on December 14, 2012, 04:33:04 PM
riffing on MDS

yes
strict rules for obtaining a gun, to include demostration of ability to use one safely, with regular practical tests as part of license renewal
significant background checks, home visits, interviews with co workers and friends
long long term prison time for breaking gun laws, as I've harped on about before
outright ban on assault rifes, machine guns, etc.


no
up the funhole taxation, etc. you want a gun you better be willing to pay for it.

Poor people can't be kept out of the club on account of prohibitive taxation.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: MDS on December 14, 2012, 04:37:43 PM
decent point

maybe a slight tax increase on the consumer and a large one on the retailer. casino owners are charged damn near 50 percent on winnings. they pay it. they make money.

gun shop owners can do the same.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Diomedes on December 14, 2012, 04:44:55 PM
damn straight.

One huge problem is what to do about people with criminal records.  Vast numbers of them should be eligible to be considered, but that point is far too nuanced for most people. 
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: reese125 on December 14, 2012, 04:47:22 PM
how dare you guys discuss gun laws during the 48 hr grieving period
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Diomedes on December 14, 2012, 04:47:39 PM
In 80% of mass shootings since 1970, the guns were obtained legally.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Munson on December 14, 2012, 04:53:09 PM
Ugh. Really sucky turning on the TV and seeing this after spending my day with classrooms full of little children.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: MDS on December 14, 2012, 04:53:27 PM
Quote from: Diomedes on December 14, 2012, 04:44:55 PM
damn straight.

One huge problem is what to do about people with criminal records.  Vast numbers of them should be eligible to be considered, but that point is far too nuanced for most people.

Those people can't even vote. Them owning guns isnt that important to me.

Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Diomedes on December 14, 2012, 04:56:48 PM
In a society that criminalizes a lot of the things that poor people do, I'm not down with making a criminal record an up or down vote on your worth to society generally.

A guy with violent crimes is different from a guy who had a DUI.  You can't just keep them all out upon the advent of actual gun control.

Also, felons should be able to vote after they get out of jail.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Diomedes on December 14, 2012, 05:12:15 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/rEqzU.png)
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on December 14, 2012, 05:19:54 PM
Jesus leave it to Fox news. Unreal.

BTW - the kid has his brothers ID on him. According to the NYP the brother said he hadn't seen the offending brother in two years and he had autism and aspergers
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Rome on December 14, 2012, 05:20:58 PM
Not even a hint of irony either.  Gotta love Fox.

Seriously, though... everyone is unbearable today.  From the bleeding hearts to the crazies who insist that guns will never be pried from their cold, dead fingers.

Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Munson on December 14, 2012, 05:32:54 PM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/A-Gh70qCAAApnYc.jpg)

It's from twitter, so take it as you will...though apparently Twitter said cops had identified it as evidence. Story going around is a kid wrote it while the shootings were going on.

I'm just going to hope it's fake.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Sgt PSN on December 14, 2012, 05:33:14 PM
Quote from: Rome on December 14, 2012, 02:14:13 PM
I'm pro gun ownership but days like today leave me soul sick.

Maybe there is no alternative but a 100% ban.

Don't know.  I feel so bad for those families.  Ugh...

It seriously does make you at least question if you're standing on the wrong side of the argument.  If something like this can happen and you still don't even let a shred of doubt enter your mind about whether or not gun laws should be dramatically changed, then you just don't have a soul or a conscience. 

In the end, I'm still going to be pro-gun.  But damn if shtein like this doesn't make me want to get rid of them completely. 
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Diomedes on December 14, 2012, 05:41:40 PM
Quote from: Munson on December 14, 2012, 05:32:54 PMI'm just going to hope it's fake.

If that's real it's private family business.  I wish I hadn't seen it regardless.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Munson on December 14, 2012, 09:44:14 PM
I've had a lot of my more conservative friends use the old "if they didn't have a gun they'd find another way, they'd just use a knife! blah blah blah"....I started asking why, if those weapons like knives are just as deadly and effective as guns, can't people just defend themselves with those weapons instead of guns?

Not a lot of answers. Shocking.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Sgt PSN on December 14, 2012, 09:51:08 PM
It's true that he probably would have found another way, but a knife probably wouldn't be his weapon of choice since it's much harder to stab 25 people without intervention than it is just to shoot them.  Maybe he builds a bomb and blows up half the school and takes out 150 people instead.  But then they'd just argue that the gun saved 125 lives. 
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Munson on December 14, 2012, 09:52:43 PM
Of course, but building a bomb requires a lot more work and time that could up the chance that somebody intervenes (plus, let's be honest, in today's world if he's buying supplies to build a bomb, the FBI and CIA probably are at his front door before he gets to do anything)
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: ice grillin you on December 14, 2012, 09:53:52 PM
Quote from: Sgt PSN on December 14, 2012, 09:51:08 PM
It's true that he probably would have found another way, but a knife probably wouldn't be his weapon of choice since it's much harder to stab 25 people without intervention than it is just to shoot them.  Maybe he builds a bomb and blows up half the school and takes out 150 people instead.  But then they'd just argue that the gun saved 125 lives. 


remember dook in china stabbed over twenty people at an elementary school last year??......he killed zero people

anyone that uses the strawman argument about how these people would just use a different weapon is not worth even responding to
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Sgt PSN on December 14, 2012, 09:57:49 PM
If he's ordering his materials online and paying with a credit card, perhaps.  But bomb making materials can be bought at Wal Mart and/or hardware stores and paid for in cash.  Nails, ball bearings, pvc pipe, duct tape and gunpowder aren't really eyebrow raisers......unless you're dumb enough to buy them all at the same time.

The only real threat to red flagging yourself is if you have no clue how to assemble it and start searching online.   
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Sgt PSN on December 14, 2012, 09:58:53 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on December 14, 2012, 09:53:52 PM
Quote from: Sgt PSN on December 14, 2012, 09:51:08 PM
It's true that he probably would have found another way, but a knife probably wouldn't be his weapon of choice since it's much harder to stab 25 people without intervention than it is just to shoot them.  Maybe he builds a bomb and blows up half the school and takes out 150 people instead.  But then they'd just argue that the gun saved 125 lives. 


remember dook in china stabbed over twenty people at an elementary school last year??......he killed zero people

anyone that uses the strawman argument about how these people would just use a different weapon is not worth even responding to

I don't remember that story, but I think that's because you just made it up. 
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: General_Failure on December 14, 2012, 10:00:02 PM
Quote from: Sgt PSN on December 14, 2012, 09:58:53 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on December 14, 2012, 09:53:52 PM
Quote from: Sgt PSN on December 14, 2012, 09:51:08 PM
It's true that he probably would have found another way, but a knife probably wouldn't be his weapon of choice since it's much harder to stab 25 people without intervention than it is just to shoot them.  Maybe he builds a bomb and blows up half the school and takes out 150 people instead.  But then they'd just argue that the gun saved 125 lives. 


remember dook in china stabbed over twenty people at an elementary school last year??......he killed zero people

anyone that uses the strawman argument about how these people would just use a different weapon is not worth even responding to

I don't remember that story, but I think that's because you just made it up. 

It turns out that story literally just happened. http://blogs.voanews.com/breaking-news/2012/12/14/man-stabs-22-children-at-chinese-elementary-school/
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: ice grillin you on December 14, 2012, 10:06:34 PM
http://www.chinadaily.com.cn/china/2010-04/29/content_9792007.htm
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Munson on December 14, 2012, 10:19:20 PM
QuoteDespite the horror of what was happening around them and being locked in a small space, the teacher explained that she kept a positive face on for the sake of her young students.
"They asked, 'Can we go see if anyone is out there... I just want Christmas... I don't want to die, I just want to have Christmas," she said.

ugh
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: phattymatty on December 14, 2012, 10:20:50 PM
wow i was pretty unplugged today and out with friends so am just reading about this in the last half hour.

awful. it also seems to be the most annoying day in facebook history.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: phattymatty on December 14, 2012, 10:28:07 PM
also not sure if chris hanson is the guy nbc should have working this story onsite.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: ice grillin you on December 14, 2012, 10:33:25 PM
Quote from: phattymatty on December 14, 2012, 10:20:50 PM
it also seems to be the most annoying day in facebook history.

holy shtein i cant even imagine

lemme guess anyone with a kid trying to gain attention by saying they can relate

same for anyone who is a teach or has a parent whos a teacher or who knows a teacher

its like a mini 9/11 with everyone trying to come up with ways to try no matter how tenuiously to connect themselves to the tradgedy and bring attention on themselves
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: SD on December 14, 2012, 10:36:27 PM
Quote from: Sgt PSN on December 14, 2012, 09:57:49 PM
If he's ordering his materials online and paying with a credit card, perhaps.  But bomb making materials can be bought at Wal Mart and/or hardware stores and paid for in cash.  Nails, ball bearings, pvc pipe, duct tape and gunpowder aren't really eyebrow raisers......unless you're dumb enough to buy them all at the same time.

The only real threat to red flagging yourself is if you have no clue how to assemble it and start searching online.   

While they could make a bomb it usually takes planning and some know how. It's easier for a frustrated person to just grab a gun and start shooting. Otherwise you'd see more mass bombings than you would mass shootings.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: phattymatty on December 14, 2012, 10:44:37 PM
i made bombs in middle school using the guts of model rocket engines, a $1 piece of copper tubing and a 4.5 volt battery. no one ever questioned us, of course that was over 20 years ago.

but once my parents saw one of these fargers explode and saw it was legit, they paid more attention to my hobbies.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: phattymatty on December 14, 2012, 10:52:01 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/zanjK.jpg)
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: ice grillin you on December 14, 2012, 10:53:56 PM
god i hate people
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: General_Failure on December 14, 2012, 11:09:33 PM
I know, right. It was just one measly interview.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Sgt PSN on December 14, 2012, 11:10:55 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on December 14, 2012, 10:06:34 PM
http://www.chinadaily.com.cn/china/2010-04/29/content_9792007.htm


Nope, still don't remember it.  But in April 2010 I was in total work up mode for deployment and completely oblivious to the world so I'm not the least bit surprised I don't remember it. 
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: ice grillin you on December 14, 2012, 11:14:16 PM
the point is not that you remember it or not....but that its pretty much the same exact scenario cept one had a gun and one had a knife....gun killed 26 knife killed zero.....knife wins
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Sgt PSN on December 14, 2012, 11:19:23 PM
Oh, I get that much.  But I was curious how I never heard of that story before today....but now I know.

Also, you'd think that if someone stabbed 20+ people, he'd get lucky at least once and hit a vital organ.  I mean, what's the probability of that not happening?     
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: ice grillin you on December 14, 2012, 11:27:38 PM
Quote from: Sgt PSN on December 14, 2012, 11:19:23 PM
Oh, I get that much.  But I was curious how I never heard of that story before today....but now I know.

Also, you'd think that if someone stabbed 20+ people, he'd get lucky at least once and hit a vital organ.  I mean, what's the probability of that not happening?     

chinese factory workers are def more efficient than chinese mass murderers

a factory worker could have made four watches out of that knife
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Sgt PSN on December 14, 2012, 11:28:23 PM
Quote from: Reggie White on December 14, 2012, 11:27:38 PM
a factory worker could have made four watches out of that knife

Agreed.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: General_Failure on December 15, 2012, 01:28:10 AM
(http://i.imgur.com/XMOgZ.png)

Ahh. Now we've hit mass murder bingo.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: ice grillin you on December 15, 2012, 01:35:02 AM
im pretty sure no one in the world knows what that means...or maybe just me....either way seems like the ultimate nerd fight
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: General_Failure on December 15, 2012, 01:36:50 AM
How's it feel to be an old man?
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Eagles_Legendz on December 15, 2012, 01:37:27 AM
people blaming shtein on video games.  summary.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: ice grillin you on December 15, 2012, 01:44:36 AM
Quote from: General_Failure on December 15, 2012, 01:36:50 AM
How's it feel to be an old man?

if not knowing about some online four way video game...the plot of the matrix or applebees onions bites makes me old then i dont wanna be young....good lord you people are terrible
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: hbionic on December 15, 2012, 01:48:49 AM
You farging love us bitch! :-*
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Eagles_Legendz on December 15, 2012, 02:04:30 AM
Quote from: ice grillin you on December 15, 2012, 01:44:36 AM
Quote from: General_Failure on December 15, 2012, 01:36:50 AM
How's it feel to be an old man?

if not knowing about some online four way video game...the plot of the matrix or applebees onions bites makes me old then i dont wanna be young....good lord you people are terrible

applebees onion bites?
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: General_Failure on December 15, 2012, 02:08:15 AM
Applebees onions bites. Get it right, whippersnapper.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: hbionic on December 15, 2012, 02:11:05 AM
 :-D
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: ice grillin you on December 15, 2012, 02:11:16 AM
what are they called??

if i knew i was gonna get kent stated by a bunch of middle americans i would have googled the proper name
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: General_Failure on December 15, 2012, 02:12:46 AM
Quote from: ice grillin you on December 15, 2012, 02:11:16 AM
what are they called??

if i knew i was gonna get kent stated by a bunch of middle americans i would have Bing'd the proper name
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Eagles_Legendz on December 15, 2012, 02:31:18 AM
Quote from: ice grillin you on December 15, 2012, 02:11:16 AM
what are they called??

if i knew i was gonna get kent stated by a bunch of middle americans i would have googled the proper name

i have no clue.  just thought your reaction was amusing.  it's good to know all it takes these days to be labeled MA is saying you're old, or, they're talking about video games.  thin fuse these days
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: General_Failure on December 15, 2012, 02:32:46 AM
Like his thinning hair. Because he's old.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Rome on December 15, 2012, 07:26:40 AM
These last few pages have been outstanding, especially Matt's (least surprising ever) revelation that he built bombs as a kid.

Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Seabiscuit36 on December 15, 2012, 09:20:04 AM
Quote from: phattymatty on December 14, 2012, 10:20:50 PM
wow i was pretty unplugged today and out with friends so am just reading about this in the last half hour.

awful. it also seems to be the most annoying day in facebook history.
So True. 
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Rome on December 15, 2012, 10:19:05 AM
This is a story about Marisa Miller having a kid.  Note the last paragraph...

(http://img17.imageshack.us/img17/3952/screenshot20121215at101.png)

WWTDD, ladies & gents.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: ice grillin you on December 15, 2012, 11:10:42 AM
actually went to applebee's website and they have onion RINGS now...i thought their claim to fame was those little onion johnsons and all of MA adored them them
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: SD on December 15, 2012, 01:43:14 PM
Gunmen opens fire in a hospital in Alabama, 3 injured, no one killed. Police killed the shooter:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/12/15/alabama-hospital-shooting-wounded-gunman-killed_n_2307505.html
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: phattymatty on December 15, 2012, 01:51:35 PM
i was actually supposed to be in birmingham for a meeting yesterday and it got postponed like a week ago. maybe cnn will call me.

i watched the news for like 15 minutes this morning and the only interviews i saw about the CT shootings were with columbine survivors and some teacher who has off on fridays and wasn't even there.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: hbionic on December 15, 2012, 03:28:19 PM
That's because everyone else was shot.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Munson on December 15, 2012, 03:42:21 PM
Medical examiner confirms that the main weapon used in the killing was the rifle
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on December 15, 2012, 04:00:45 PM
I'm amused in a cant look away at the car wreck way at the news coverage now. They're interviewing anyone they can get a hold of and bringing in experts to yap about dumb shtein

Too many news stations on the ground there.

Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Tomahawk on December 15, 2012, 05:08:04 PM
Quote from: phattymatty on December 14, 2012, 10:20:50 PMawful. it also seems to be the most annoying day in facebook history.

QuoteThey'll say it's a problem with guns.
They'll say it's a problem with crime.
They'll say it's a problem with schools.
They'll say it's a problem with parenting.
They'll come up with so many people, things, organizations, rules, laws, and policies to blame for what happened today at Sandy Hook Elementary School in Newtown, Connecticut.
Personally, I believe there is only one to blame for this: the empty human heart. The one to blame is a life lived without meaning, without purpose, without moral absolutes... without a Savior.
I don't mean to offend, but my heart is breaking. We live in a world where it is more socially acceptable to ignore God or deny His existence rather than acknowledge Him, and then we are surprised when we see evil committed. Yes, evil. That's what people will call it, and that's exactly what it is. I doubt many would argue against that.
But how can we define evil if not by comparison to it's opposite: justice, holiness, and love – three major attributes of God? We readily and quickly recognize evil for what it is, so why do we not recognize God for who He is just as easily? Why would we *choose* to live a life where evil is prevalent and effects us every day (as it seems to do)? Why would we choose that, yet turn away from the One who offers love and justice, and wants to *save* us from evil? That seems backwards, doesn't it? We choose darkness and mistakenly see it as freedom, when in reality, freedom only comes through perfect truth, which can only come by a perfect being.

John 3:19 = "And the judgment is based on this fact: God's light came into the world, but people loved the darkness more than the light, for their actions were evil."

The actions today were most certainly, evil. But you can choose The Light.
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If I believed in god, I'd blame it
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Rome on December 15, 2012, 05:10:33 PM
What a crock of farging horseshtein.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: ice grillin you on December 15, 2012, 05:13:48 PM
i wonder what the crusades would say about that
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Rome on December 15, 2012, 05:15:58 PM
Or any other religiously inspired path of lunacy.

Seriously, John Lennon had it right.  Religion sucks.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: ice grillin you on December 15, 2012, 05:26:30 PM
nic kristoff kills it....

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/12/16/opinion/sunday/kristof-do-we-have-the-courage-to-stop-this.html?_r=0
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: hbionic on December 15, 2012, 05:28:00 PM
Quote from: Tomahawk on December 15, 2012, 05:08:04 PM

If I believed in god, I'd blame her
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: ice grillin you on December 15, 2012, 05:31:03 PM
just saw the list of dead.....the date of birth column is so sad....

05/06
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: ice grillin you on December 15, 2012, 05:36:51 PM
Quote from: Rome on December 15, 2012, 05:15:58 PM
Or any other religiously inspired path of lunacy.

Seriously, John Lennon had it right.  Religion sucks.

no one knows but my money is on most families of the dead being religious....but going to church isnt enough to stop your child from being killed....you have to actually pray IN school or you lose
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on December 15, 2012, 05:54:55 PM
(http://www.agnostic-library.com/ma/wp-content/uploads/2012/12/Untitled-1.png)
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: ice grillin you on December 15, 2012, 05:57:47 PM
holy farg is that for real?
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Tomahawk on December 15, 2012, 06:00:23 PM
lol that's farging hilarious. dude should go be with god too.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on December 15, 2012, 06:04:21 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on December 15, 2012, 05:57:47 PM
holy farg is that for real?

Dunno...I saw it on another MB....I am trying to find out if its a hoax.

When I searched dudes name in facebook the first page that pops up is deleted
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Diomedes on December 15, 2012, 06:10:16 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on December 15, 2012, 05:36:51 PMno one knows but my money is on most families of the dead being religious...

not so likely in that area.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: ice grillin you on December 15, 2012, 06:15:57 PM
Quote from: Diomedes on December 15, 2012, 06:10:16 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on December 15, 2012, 05:36:51 PMno one knows but my money is on most families of the dead being religious...

not so likely in that area.

disagree...it not alabama but its also not the village....i guarantee the majority of the people in newtown are church goin folk
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: ice grillin you on December 15, 2012, 07:42:44 PM
they back....

http://www.examiner.com/article/connecticut-school-shooting-westboro-baptist-church-planning-to-picket
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Diomedes on December 15, 2012, 09:31:56 PM
I grew up in Connecticut.  It is not a highly religious place.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: ice grillin you on December 15, 2012, 09:34:45 PM
Quote from: Diomedes on December 15, 2012, 09:31:56 PM
I grew up in Connecticut.  It is not a highly religious place.

many more people believe in god there than dont....but we are getting into semantics and completely missing my original point
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Diomedes on December 15, 2012, 09:35:41 PM
No, we are not getting into semantics.  New England is the least religious place in the country.

Just swallow being disagreed with and move on dickface.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: ice grillin you on December 15, 2012, 09:39:54 PM
be more wrong.....its what you do
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: General_Failure on December 15, 2012, 09:54:56 PM
Take him under your wing and show him how to really do it right.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: ice grillin you on December 15, 2012, 09:57:44 PM
he has a good heart but the execution is way off....not sure if he worthy of help
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Don Ho on December 15, 2012, 11:05:14 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on December 15, 2012, 05:31:03 PM
just saw the list of dead.....the date of birth column is so sad....

05/06

Damn.  Being a parent I turned the shtein off when they started listing names and birth dates.  Made me sick.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Geowhizzer on December 15, 2012, 11:06:09 PM
Quote from: Don Ho on December 15, 2012, 11:05:14 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on December 15, 2012, 05:31:03 PM
just saw the list of dead.....the date of birth column is so sad....

05/06

Damn.  Being a parent I turned the shtein off when they started listing names and birth dates.  Made me sick.

Couldn't read them.  Tried, just couldn't.  So damn young.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on December 15, 2012, 11:11:42 PM
yeah it was rough to read that and know that some of them were shot 11 times. Jesus
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Don Ho on December 15, 2012, 11:15:16 PM
In all this madness it was a breath of fresh air late yesterday afternoon while we were at the Pipeline Masters surf championship.  Place was rocking and full of electricity with 25K+ people on the beach, 8-10 foot surf at one of the best venues in the sport and a world title on the line heading into the semifinals.  Whenever Kelly Slater is in a contest the place is nuts.  Word quickly spread through out the  event as the day went on of the tragic events in Connecticut.

At the awards ceremony the chairnan of Billabong, the sponsor of the event acknowledged the victims and asked for a moment of silence.  He really hit us all in the gut when he said "This is only a surf competition, people died today, children were murdered".  Took every ounce of my inner strength to keep from tearing up.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Don Ho on December 15, 2012, 11:18:00 PM
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on December 15, 2012, 06:04:21 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on December 15, 2012, 05:57:47 PM
holy farg is that for real?

Dunno...I saw it on another MB....I am trying to find out if its a hoax.

When I searched dudes name in facebook the first page that pops up is deleted

Oh man that dude can't be for real.  What a piece of shtein.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: MDS on December 15, 2012, 11:30:31 PM
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on December 15, 2012, 11:11:42 PM
yeah it was rough to read that and know that some of them were shot 11 times. Jesus

and his funhole of mother, who should be getting a ton of blame that shes not, was the one who had guns in the house with this....thing. cant even call him a person cause he aint human

but maybe if the 6 year old was packing this never would have happened
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: ice grillin you on December 15, 2012, 11:56:01 PM
jansport already said they are coming out with a back pack that has a gun holster
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on December 16, 2012, 12:05:37 AM
Quote from: MDS on December 15, 2012, 11:30:31 PM
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on December 15, 2012, 11:11:42 PM
yeah it was rough to read that and know that some of them were shot 11 times. Jesus

and his funhole of mother, who should be getting a ton of blame that shes not, was the one who had guns in the house with this....thing. cant even call him a person cause he aint human

but maybe if the 6 year old was packing this never would have happened

Yeah a reportedly mentally disturbed kid with extreme social issues and on medication for such things...and she's armed to the teeth? With a goddamn assault rifle?

The pic of the dude creeps me out. If I saw his pic without knowing he massacred children for no reason I would be creeped.

What an unfathomable thing to do. I mean...what the hell makes someone to decide to go kill kids in school? How can someone put a farging child in their sights and pull the trigger...not just once but hundreds of times?

Something has to be done. I am for gun ownership but the methodology in which they're acquired needs to be hammered.

I have always thought the assault weapons, body armor, armor piercing and extreme ammunition needed to be regulated since the days when those two fellas decided to arm up and rob that bank in LA and then walk down the street with their car taking shot after shot from LAPD without being affected....until the coppers went into the local gun stores for stronger weaponry and ammo.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: ice grillin you on December 16, 2012, 12:08:05 AM
why would anyone be for gun ownership....i am 1 million % for the abolition of all guns....i dont fight for much less even think about it cause its just something that will never happen but why should any guns be legal
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: MDS on December 16, 2012, 12:09:27 AM
because its in the constitution, dumbass

DONT TAKE AWAY MY RIGHTS
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on December 16, 2012, 12:12:30 AM
I am in no way a gun nut and if the government came out tomorrow and said it was illegal to own one I wouldn't lose sleep.

However I do believe in having a handgun or shotgun in the house for protection if needed.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on December 16, 2012, 12:15:36 AM
Apparently the mother was stockpiling weapons in case the economy collapsed and it became a wild west free for all.

WTF
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: ice grillin you on December 16, 2012, 12:16:33 AM
guns are like abortion.....theres just no changing minds....unlike a lot of right wing issues i actually respect their arguments on guns and abortion...i dont agree with them but they have an argument at least even if i think its ludicrous
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: ice grillin you on December 16, 2012, 12:17:34 AM
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on December 16, 2012, 12:15:36 AM
Apparently the mother was stockpiling weapons in case the economy collapsed and it became a wild west free for all.

WTF

wow....for real?

no wonder her son was a nutjob
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on December 16, 2012, 12:19:27 AM
yeah I am trying to find the link from CBSNews

But check this

http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/victims_found_horrific_connecticut_jNTUicqZejDtIdc6G24mUJ/1

QuoteMeanwhile, it emerged today Lanza's mother — who was also killed in the spree — was a gun nut who took her troubled son to shooting ranges.

"She'd take them to the range a lot. ... Nancy was an enthusiast -- so much so that she wanted to pass it on to her kids," said her former landscaper, and occasional drinking buddy, Dan Holmes.

"She took her two sons to the gun ranges quite a bit to practice their aim. She was a really great shot from what she told me. Whenever I finished work and went inside to chit chat, she spoke often about her fascination with firearms. Nancy had an extensive gun collection and she was really quite proud of it."

QuoteNancy collected rifles, he said -- and smiled when she looked at one antique gun.

"I remember one time she brought a nice case out and when she opened it up, she pulled out this beautiful old rifle," he said. "I don't know a lot about guns, but to me it looked really beautiful and old. She was really proud of that one. It was a beautiful old hand crafted rifle with a wooden handle. She would just smile when she looked at it."

Cops have recovered "very good evidence" at Adam Lanza's house and hoped it would provide motive in the shocking killings.

Lanza busted his way into Sandy Hook Elementary School and killed 26 people -- most of which were children -- after killing his mom in their house.

"She would often talk about her son having social issues. She told me he was a brilliant kid and very book smart but that he was very awkward around people and wanted to be by himself," he said. "He was a very fearful kid."

Nancy took her son Ryan to New Orleans last year around the holidays, but Adam stayed behind. "Apparently he didn't like to travel," he said.

The doting mom was flirty at her local bar, but was guarded didn't date much "probably because of her autistic son," he said.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: ice grillin you on December 16, 2012, 12:21:28 AM
still dont understand how you aim and fire at six year olds
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: General_Failure on December 16, 2012, 12:23:24 AM
Slightly lower than adults, I'm assuming.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: General_Failure on December 16, 2012, 03:00:58 AM
Firearm Legislation: Why We Have So Much Trouble Talking About It (http://twofoldsilence.diogenes-lamp.info/2012/07/firearm-legislation-why-we-have-so-much.html)

Written back in July, but still probably the only decently written thing on this subject I'll read.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: ice grillin you on December 16, 2012, 11:18:39 AM
Quote from: Diomedes on December 15, 2012, 09:35:41 PM
No, we are not getting into semantics.  New England is the least religious place in the country.

seems like it....

http://www.slate.com/blogs/crime/2012/12/14/newtown_school_shooting_the_heartbreaking_scene_on_the_night_of_the_shooting.html
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: phattymatty on December 16, 2012, 11:32:10 AM
wait there's a church in town?

now i've seen it all.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: ice grillin you on December 16, 2012, 11:34:20 AM
lines out the door of every church in town....but new england is non religious
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: General_Failure on December 16, 2012, 11:38:39 AM
They have a church and a liquor store? No, something doesn't add up here.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: ice grillin you on December 16, 2012, 11:48:32 AM
i dont know if anyone has been following this over the last year or so but eric cantor has been holding up a violence against women act in congress because it gives rights to native american women....cantor basically is worried about constitutional protections for non native americans accused of abusing native american women...this is as repulsive as it gets....but its even worse that hes holding up the entire bill for this outrageous reason....basically hes for allowing non native american men to be able to get away with abusing native american women

he is as repugnant as it gets
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Rome on December 16, 2012, 12:08:17 PM
Are you kidding?   For the Cantors, Scott Walkers & Rick Scotts of the world, this is SOP.  That's why the GOP should be tossed into the ash heap permanently.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: ice grillin you on December 16, 2012, 12:11:26 PM
true but this seems over the top even for them....in fact it has a lot of republican support....it would pass if a vote was taken...but cantor wont let it get out of committee

just unreal
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: ice grillin you on December 16, 2012, 12:14:31 PM
btw i have no idea why i put that in this thread
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: ice grillin you on December 16, 2012, 01:37:29 PM
must read and watch....

http://www.eclectablog.com/2012/12/how-much-would-you-pay-someone-to-take-a-bullet-for-your-child.html

http://abcnews.go.com/WNT/video/connecticut-shooting-teacher-kaitlin-roig-protected-students-17978970
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: ice grillin you on December 16, 2012, 02:16:54 PM
QuoteIt was about 9:40 a.m. Friday. In just minutes, Lanza — a withdrawn, emotionally detached 20-year-old who lived with his mother and is said to have played graphically violent computer video games — would kill 26 people in the country's second-largest mass killing. Dead were 20 children, four teachers, the school principal and a school psychologist. Earlier in the morning, Lanza shot and killed his mother, Nancy, perhaps the only person with whom he was socially engaged.

Lanza shot himself as police arrived, sirens wailing.

Late Saturday, an army of police detectives continued to interview members of Lanza's family and others who knew him, searching for answers to innumerable questions — chief among them what could have driven anyone to such violence.

Several sources in law enforcement and elsewhere provided what they said was the most current information on how the events leading to the school shootings unfolded.

On Friday morning, as Lanza turned left, toward the first-grade classrooms, Hochsprung and school psychologist Mary Scherlach, shocked by the sounds of gunfire and shattering glass, bolted into a corridor from a conference room across the hall from the classrooms.

He shot them both with the rifle.

The first classroom that Lanza reached was that of teacher Kaitlin Roig. Alarmed by the gunfire, she had hidden her students in a bathroom and closed her classroom door. For reasons that could not be explained Saturday, Lanza passed by Roig's classroom.

The classroom he chose to enter was substitute teacher Lauren Rousseau's, where he proceeded to systematically shoot everyone inside — the 14 children who investigators believe were huddled and clutching one another in fear, Rousseau and a special education teacher who happened to be in the room. Rousseau was filling in for the regular teacher, who was out on maternity leave. Rousseau had been teaching at the school for six weeks.

"There were 14 coats hanging there and 14 bodies. He killed them all," said a law enforcement officer involved in the case.

Lanza next arrived at teacher Victoria Soto's classroom. Soto is believed to have hidden her 6- and 7-year old students in a classroom closet. When Lanza demanded to know where the children were, Soto tried to divert him to the other end of the school by saying that her students were in the auditorium.

But six of Soto's students tried to flee. Lanza shot them, Soto and another teacher who was in the room. Later, in their search for survivors, police found the remaining seven of Soto's students still hiding in the closet. They told the police what had happened.

The two teacher's aides who were killed were Mary Anne Murphy and Rachel Davino. It was unclear which aide was in which room when they were killed.

The first officer to arrive at the school found Lanza's body near the door of Soto's classroom.

The intense violence lasted about 10 minutes. Lanza fired at least three, 30-round magazines with deadly accuracy. Two of the people he shot survived. All of the victims were shot multiple times.

"I did seven (autopsies) myself with three to 11 wounds apiece," Chief State Medical Examiner Dr. H. Wayne Carver III said Saturday. "Only two were shot at close range. I believe everybody was hit (by bullets) more than once."

Investigators believe that the violence began even earlier that morning in the 4,000-square-foot home on Yogananda Street where Lanza is believed to have lived with his mother. He hasn't spoken since 2010 to his brother, Ryan, or his father, Peter, who has a home in Stamford and another in New Jersey, the sources said.

Two law enforcement sources said the hard drive had been removed from Lanza's computer and broken in pieces. They said that forensic electronics experts at the FBI will examine the drive in an effort to determine with whom Lanza corresponded electronically and how he otherwise used the device.

One of the sources said that Lanza used the computer to play a violent video game in which life-like characters engage in graphic battle scenes.

Police investigators were still stunned Saturday by the scene they encountered at the school a day earlier, in particular by the seven surviving — but shocked — children hiding silently in the closet in Soto's classroom.

Officers found the children during the initial, rushed search of the building for survivors.

"Finally, they opened that door and there were seven sets of eyes looking at them," a law enforcement officer familiar with the events said Saturday. "She tried to save her class" he said of Victoria Soto.

She was shot not far from her desk, from which she had hung drawings on which her students had written captions such as, "I love my teacher Miss Soto."

Police heard what sounded like a child's moans from where the bodies of the children in Rousseau's classroom had collapsed together. Police had to move several bodies to reach an injured boy, who died en route to Danbury Hospital.

Mary Ann Jacob, a library clerk, had 18 fourth-graders with her in a classroom when the shooting started. They heard it over the school's intercom system.

"The intercom had opened up so we could hear some confusion in the office," Jacob said. "So I called the office because I thought it was a mistake and that they didn't realize the intercom was on. The secretary answered and she said there's shooting. So we yelled 'lockdown' in our room and then ran across the hall and yelled 'lockdown' in the classroom across."

"You could hear the shots. They sounded like popping noises, so we tried to minimize it with the kids," she said. "I don't think until we opened the door and there were 15 state cops with these gigantic guns and federal agents escorting the kids out that they really realized what was going on."

Art teacher Leslie Gunn said she was beginning a class on sculpturing clay with 23 fourth-graders when the shooting began. Her first thought was that the sounds of what turned out to be gunshots were a work crew making repairs to the school roof.

"It got really loud," Gunn said. "It was too loud. Something was bad."

Shaking, she dialed 911 frantically but was unable to get through to the police. Eventually she reached her husband.

"I told him I don't know what is going to happen to us."

A couple of the fourth-grade boys started to cry.

"I told the kids something is wrong and we are just going to have to stay here," Gunn said. "I said I love you. And you are all so brave.''

They remained in the room for about 15 minutes. They heard someone banging on the door to the classroom. When she realized that it was the police, she let them in and spoke to her students

"I told the kids [to] hold each other's hands and not let go," Gunn said.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: ice grillin you on December 16, 2012, 09:23:56 PM
https://twitter.com/WestWingReport/status/280496153856995329/photo/1
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: ice grillin you on December 16, 2012, 09:28:50 PM
btw his speech was so good tonight
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: ice grillin you on December 16, 2012, 09:36:24 PM
and it took charles krauthhammer less than ten minutes rip obama for giving a highly politicized speech

Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Munson on December 16, 2012, 09:38:47 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on December 16, 2012, 09:36:24 PM
and it took charles krauthhammer less than ten minutes rip obama for giving a highly politicized speech

And in the meantime saying nothing about Huckabee's droning on about lack of God in our schools leads to this and how government's too worried about funding abortion pills and blah blah blah. THAT's what politicizing this event is. But Krauthammer is a scumbag who agrees with him so he won't say shtein about it.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: ice grillin you on December 16, 2012, 09:48:58 PM
The advocacy group Gun Owners of America know exactly how the Newtown massacre might have been averted: Guns in schools.

And in the hours after the tragedy, Larry Pratt, the group's executive director is calling on state and federal lawmakers to overturn any bans on guns in schools. More hauntingly, he is suggesting gun control advocates "have the blood of little children on their hands."

Here is his statement:

"Gun control supporters have the blood of little children on their hands. Federal and state laws combined to insure that no teacher, no administrator, no adult had a gun at the Newtown school where the children were murdered. This tragedy underscores the urgency of getting rid of gun bans in school zones. The only thing accomplished by gun free zones is to insure that mass murderers can slay more before they are finally confronted by someone with a gun."

The Gun Owners of America claim a national membership of 300,000 people.

Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: phattymatty on December 16, 2012, 10:05:12 PM
ensure
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: MDS on December 16, 2012, 10:45:18 PM
i think we need to start society over
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: hbionic on December 16, 2012, 10:57:29 PM
Fine. I'll represent the mexicans.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: MDS on December 16, 2012, 11:00:35 PM
but seriously we have these endless debates about bla bla bla gun this abortion that whine whine whine and it all goes nowhere

how about this
1. florida falls into the atlantic ocean
2. jesusland MA forms their own country
3. ban all guns
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: SunMo on December 17, 2012, 08:42:09 AM
somehow this tragedy went from "that poor community, families, children..." to a self-serving opportunity for teachers to spout off about what they do for our children and whatever are they going to do and say on Monday.

farging jerkoffs.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Munson on December 17, 2012, 10:50:23 AM
its a tough question to answer if its brought up in class. im kind of glad i didnt take an elementary sub job today because if a little 5 or 6 year old asked me if they were safe or asked why it happeed or etc, id just feel upaet they even have that on their minds that young
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: SunMo on December 17, 2012, 10:52:54 AM
its tough for anybody, it's a terrible situation.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: General_Failure on December 17, 2012, 11:52:13 AM
National Rifle Association Hides Facebook Page To Avoid Hosting Flame Wars (http://techcrunch.com/2012/12/16/nra-facebook-page-down/)
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Tomahawk on December 17, 2012, 02:18:38 PM
farg it all to hell (http://www.theonion.com/articles/farg-everything-nation-reports,30743/?ref=auto)
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: hbionic on December 17, 2012, 02:26:03 PM
http://store.theonion.com/p-5045-cheat-to-win-bracelet.aspx

I just noticed these from the onion store. I'll be buying one.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: hbionic on December 17, 2012, 02:36:12 PM
I just saw that it's a 5-pack for $10.00.

I'll get the 5-pack if anyone else wants one. The first 4 people to request one will get one from me free. Actually, it will cost me postage. But it's for a good cause.

Let me know.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Seabiscuit36 on December 17, 2012, 04:09:09 PM
Can anyone explain how a Mass Ban of guns would work?  I don't see where the government has the funds available to fund a program. 
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Munson on December 17, 2012, 04:41:42 PM
Quote from: Seabiscuit36 on December 17, 2012, 04:09:09 PM
Can anyone explain how a Mass Ban of guns would work?  I don't see where the government has the funds available to fund a program.
I don't think it would...there's too many of htem
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on December 17, 2012, 05:01:50 PM
Quote from: Seabiscuit36 on December 17, 2012, 04:09:09 PM
Can anyone explain how a Mass Ban of guns would work?  I don't see where the government has the funds available to fund a program.

Perhaps they front the cash for the buy-back program and then think they save that over years from not paying out medical bills and other associated expenses that are now incurred by the sheer amount of gun violence
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on December 17, 2012, 05:05:10 PM
(http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2012/12/16/article-2249185-168BE173000005DC-875_634x408.jpg)
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Diomedes on December 17, 2012, 05:27:37 PM
Quote from: hbionic on December 17, 2012, 02:36:12 PMLet me know.

I want one.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: hbionic on December 17, 2012, 06:11:01 PM
PM me your address.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: hbionic on December 17, 2012, 06:22:40 PM
3 left, anyone else?
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: rjs246 on December 17, 2012, 07:03:11 PM
Gimme.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: rjs246 on December 17, 2012, 07:11:20 PM
And only stupid idealist hippies are talking about a nationwide ban on guns. It could never happen and would never happen. An actual adult conversation about gun ownership and this country's obsession with all things auto- and semi-automatic would be a welcome place to start, though. Maybe concentrate on educating the population in all parts of the country so that guns aren't the focus of their sense of personhood and entitlement and freedom. And maybe some funding for education, diagnosis and treatment of mental health issues? And maybe some actual stringent enforcement of existing gun laws? And maybe, hey, stop doing things like spying on our own citizens and overtly courting 'oppressive government' paranoia?

I mean, I'm as pro-gun as a liberal can be, and my reasons for it are totally libertarian and arguably insane, but we have serious societal issues that make our gun obsession incredibly dangerous. I'm not talking about video games and hollywood. I'm talking about a lack of education. A lack of community. And a total disregard for people who have trouble functioning in normal society. Isolation can farg with your head, especially when you're already on the verge of crazy.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on December 17, 2012, 07:11:51 PM
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2249185/Nancy-Lanza-Did-paranoid-gun-crazed-mother-trigger-Sandy-Hook-Connecticut-killing-spree.html

QuoteFriends and family portrayed Adam Lanza's mother Nancy as a paranoid 'survivalist' who believed the world was on the verge of violent, economic collapse.

She is reported to have been struggling to hold herself together and had been stockpiling food, water and guns in the large home she shared with her 20-year-old son in Connecticut.

Mrs Lanza, 52, was a 'prepper' – so called because they are preparing for a breakdown in civilised society – who apparently became obsessed with guns

Dude put four bullets in her head.

on a side note - the Daily Mail seems to always have pretty in-depth USA coverage despite being a British joint
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on December 17, 2012, 07:23:55 PM
Oh another thing - as an American I fully support our right to free speech. Regardless of how ignorant or stupid one may sound they have every right to say it.

With that being said freedom of speech does not shield one from showing how ignorant or obtuse a person may be. I am about tired of the "if teachers carried guns..." folks. These dopes are showing ignorance thinking that because a teacher or teachers are armed that no one would be harmed or killed.

If a teacher is walking around with a shoulder or belt holster with a Glock .40 cal what does that say about our country that even a goddamn school cannot be free of violence or the appearance of violence? All in the name of our right to bear arms? So these wacko's really want their sons and daughters in school with teachers carrying? They believe that said teacher, while standing up giving a lesson, sees a murderer enter the classroom and their reactionary thought processes immediately switch from the ABC's to how they have to draw down and eliminate a person?

Police and military personnel are trained for this and they are adequately conditioned and prepped to enter and engage in such situations. A teacher is not nor should they be.

It is sick and twisted to think teachers should be armed so these people can avoid gun rights being taken away.

I would love to hear these defenders of such ridiculousness explain how they think Ms. Teacher is going to cap the guy(s) in the minimum amount of shots necessary and accurately enough to avoid the offender getting any shots off. What about ricochet's? What about inaccurate shooting accidentally hitting a student?

Imagine the news if a teacher shot one or two kids while trying to defend the classroom? Imagine the news if a crazed older student overpowered a frail old teacher and used the weapon to kill the teacher and others?

Come on, America - smarten the farg up
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: hbionic on December 17, 2012, 07:32:47 PM
Quote from: rjs246 on December 17, 2012, 07:03:11 PM
Gimme.

PM me your address again.

Ok, 2 bands left, anyone else?
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: hbionic on December 17, 2012, 07:40:01 PM
I agree with what phreak said.

Teaching is one of the most stressful, poorly paid positions in all of the universe. I went out with a teacher. They take it from all ends, administration, co-workers, parents, and the shtein heads they have to put up with for 8 hours a day. A teacher is probably the last person I want with a gun. Their potential propencity to snap is out the roof, I think alcohol and sex with students is the only thing that keeps teachers grounded.

Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: hbionic on December 17, 2012, 07:41:03 PM
By the way, in a sad, news eats news type of way, pro-choice advocates just exhaled with the news of gun control taking center stage.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: General_Failure on December 17, 2012, 07:46:27 PM
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on December 17, 2012, 07:11:51 PM
on a side note - the Daily Mail seems to always have pretty in-depth USA coverage despite being a British joint

British media knows how to pick the bones of a carcass better than anyone.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Geowhizzer on December 17, 2012, 08:26:29 PM
Quote from: hbionic on December 17, 2012, 07:40:01 PM
I agree with what phreak said.

Teaching is one of the most stressful, poorly paid positions in all of the universe. I went out with a teacher. They take it from all ends, administration, co-workers, parents, and the shtein heads they have to put up with for 8 hours a day. A teacher is probably the last person I want with a gun. Their potential propencity to snap is out the roof, I think alcohol and sex with students is the only thing that keeps teachers grounded.

Personally, I'd probably be more likely to accidentally Plaxico myself in the leg.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Geowhizzer on December 17, 2012, 08:44:48 PM
Quote from: SunMo on December 17, 2012, 08:42:09 AM
somehow this tragedy went from "that poor community, families, children..." to a self-serving opportunity for teachers to spout off about what they do for our children and whatever are they going to do and say on Monday.

farging jerkoffs.

Here are my two cents about what happened today.   I know you want to hear this... :D

Honestly, I decided that I would try to answer any questions the students brought to me, but not to start anything myself for a few different reasons.  First, I have no real good answers to give for far too many of those questions.  Secondly, I'd like to keep things as normal for the kids as possible.  Lastly, midterm exams are this week, and the kids really need the time in class to review and prepare for those.

And to be frank, not a single student asked about the shootings in class.  I found that interesting.

One thing did change today for my homeroom.  Usually I show the CNN Student News as the students are coming in,  Today, we were asked by administration to refrain from showing it, probably for much the same reasons that I chose to not focus on the tragedy.  Interestingly, we did get an e-mail from our admin offering counseling if we needed it as staff.  It was obviously also available to any kids that needed it.   As much as it could be between the tragedy, the holiday season and the impending midterms, it was a fairly normal day.

According to my wife, her school did much the same thing.  They had their normally-scheduled prayer service (it is a Christian school) and did offer prayers to the victims, but otherwise kept things pretty low-key.

As a parent, my wife and I did try to talk to our children about the tragedy over the weekend, trying to appropriately give the kids the information they needed.  Like everything else, some kids will know nothing, and others know far too many details for comfort.  We rather would have the kids hear it first from us rather than from a friend.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: hbionic on December 17, 2012, 09:02:01 PM
Thanks for sharing that perspective.

It's nice to get a view from the inside from an arena that I would assume would have reverberations about the shootings such as another school and students and staff who attend it.

Geo, what about you...I know that as a student, when I was the J.C., after the V-Tech shootings, it was in the back of my mind as I sat there and thought about what I would do if someone started shooting. I started sitting at the end of the row at the aisle just to have a quick exit and hopefully improve my survival rate. Do you personally have a plan for an incident such as this?
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: rjs246 on December 17, 2012, 09:20:26 PM
When you are spending time thinking about your best exit strategy from your classroom in the event of a classroom shooting you should probably think about dropping out of school and killing yourself. If Geo has some sort of ready answer to your question, as though he has also spent time thinking about this, I'll be shocked. Awful things happen in the world, it's worth talking about. But if your at school you're infintiely safer than you are just about anywhere else and you should probably focus on learning your dumb ass some edumacation. Just sayin.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: hbionic on December 17, 2012, 09:36:19 PM
I was getting an A in the class and I have a Pentium chip in my brain and I am able to process thoughts which take seconds and not hours at a time thus not creating a conflict in whatever I have embarked on. You should get the upgrade. It's worth it.

I would be surprised if Geo did not have a semblance of a plan. I'm curious now to know. Geo, to the stage! Geo!
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: hbionic on December 17, 2012, 09:37:37 PM
Also, 1 band left. 3 have been spoken for already. If no one else, I'll use the extra one as a cock-ring. Obviously I'll have to tie it around a few times, but still.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Geowhizzer on December 17, 2012, 10:47:31 PM
If I'm in class, I have to worry about the students first.  If I'm at home, I have to worry about my wife and kids first.  They can't have me thinking about my safety first.  Just part of the responsibilities I've accepted as part of my work and family.

The school has a "code red" drill that we have to practice several times per year.  Code Red = shooter on campus.  Personally, I think we make ourselves sitting ducks in that drill if there was a real shooter looking for a specific target, but there are not any better options that we have come up with.  Basically, we take the kids into our central planning area (four classroom share one planning area), turn off all lights and hunker down.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Munson on December 17, 2012, 10:55:58 PM
Most of the elementary schools I've been in have bathrooms in their classrooms now, which is a good option for at least a bunch of students (they're usually decent sized)

We didn't have that shtein when I was in elementary school...sheeeit.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: reese125 on December 18, 2012, 12:45:39 AM
jesus christ i barely knew where the fire exits were in grade school. all i knew was follow the teacher and group when the annoying fire alarm went off on fire drills--which meant free time in the school yard

kids practicing lock downs, code reds, active shooter response tactics? shtein is bananas
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: General_Failure on December 18, 2012, 12:50:55 AM
At least they're not practicing for atomic bombs anymore.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: hbionic on December 18, 2012, 02:47:14 AM
Well, that's because everyone knows what to do when an atom bomb hits; Stop. Drop. And Roll.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Munson on December 18, 2012, 03:11:32 AM
No, no I think that's the procedure for doing a fat chick
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Don Ho on December 18, 2012, 03:56:32 AM
Quote from: hbionic on December 18, 2012, 02:47:14 AM
Well, that's because everyone knows what to do when an atom bomb hits; Stop. Drop. And Roll.

:-D  So that's how Chad Lewis survived Nagasaki.

Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Geowhizzer on December 18, 2012, 06:06:05 AM
Quote from: reese125 on December 18, 2012, 12:45:39 AM
jesus christ i barely knew where the fire exits were in grade school. all i knew was follow the teacher and group when the annoying fire alarm went off on fire drills--which meant free time in the school yard

kids practicing lock downs, code reds, active shooter response tactics? shtein is bananas

Been doing it since Columbine.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Diomedes on December 18, 2012, 07:46:36 AM
Quote from: Seabiscuit36 on December 17, 2012, 04:09:09 PMCan anyone explain how a Mass Ban of guns would work?  I don't see where the government has the funds available to fund a program.

A total ban is ludicrous, and not being talked about seriously by anyone worth listening to.  Here off the top of my head is what I'd like to see.  Irrational politics of the pro-gun set aside, all of this could be accomplished.  And yes, it would be expensive but freedom isn't free and I'd remind you that what we've got going now is pretty goddamn costly too.

All gun owners (I am one) submit to a background check and must pass licensing requirements to keep their guns.  There will be a set period of time in which to accomplish this...say 18 months. Any illegal weapons in their possession (see below) are taken during this limited amnesty, and they can keep the rest assuming the background check and licensing goes well.  People who ignore the requirement, keep possession of their guns and don't get licenses become criminals and should they be found they will be treated according to the law.  Use anonymous crime tips hotlines for people to rat out gun criminals.   It's harsh, but the only way to make sure the only people who have guns are legal, is to get all the others out of the system.

Licensing to include heavy duty background checks.  Like you're applying to be a cop or something.  With actual smart people doing the investigations and judges overseeing them.  People who know the applicant will be asked questions.  Mental health records will be checked.  etc.

Licensing to include demonstration of practical competence and safety, and re-licensing will require re-testing for proficiency.

Mentally retarded people cannot get guns.  Crazy people can't get guns.  Children cannot get guns.  Violent felons cannot get guns.  (non-violent felons and other "criminals" can still own/apply.."

Ban on sale of assault weapons in all venues.  Possession of one becomes a crime, turn them in or face the consequences if you get busted with one.

Ban on large clips.

Ban on bullet proof vests.  Or maybe a license required in the case of your job is to sit in an armored car, etc, but they are gonna get a lot more scare and you're not going be able to buy one with your AR 15 from Walmart for your raid on the pre-school down the block.

Draconian prison terms for gun crimes, as I've described before.

Increased funding for mental health, whatever that means.  I'm not sure, but clearly we need to be offering people more/better help.  There are a lot of damaged people walking around out there and they are beginning to eat us alive for stranding them in our midst.

People who make guns and ammo will be taxed more (but not a crippling increase) to help pay for all this, and general goverment revenue will cover the rest.  That means we all pay more, or someone, like the bloated military, gets less.  Freedom isn't free.  It would be a lot cheaper in the long run to just ban and confiscate all guns.

Finally, we can't do this by law, but we could apply enough moral pressure as a community to get the media to limit coverage of the monsters who do these crimes.  Omit names and images of the shooter as much as possible.  Deprive them of the infamy they seek, and thereby signal to the next guy that he's not going to become a household name on account of throwing grenades into school busses.

edit:  I cannot figure out how to use bullet points.  I guess I fail the licensing requirements for :CF  Goddamnit.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: SunMo on December 18, 2012, 08:25:09 AM
and underplayed, yet despicable aspect of this thing is the media.  farging blood suckers who were interviewing children hours after the shooting.  dr. phil who is broadcasting live from newtown to "help the community heal".  cnn, fox news, msnbc and all the other networks who keep showing this piece of shtein's picture on tv and saying his name and glorifying him and encouraging the next icehole to do it. 
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: SD on December 18, 2012, 09:05:52 AM
Quote from: SunMo on December 18, 2012, 08:25:09 AM
and underplayed, yet despicable aspect of this thing is the media.  farging blood suckers who were interviewing children hours after the shooting.  dr. phil who is broadcasting live from newtown to "help the community heal".  cnn, fox news, msnbc and all the other networks who keep showing this piece of shtein's picture on tv and saying his name and glorifying him and encouraging the next icehole to do it.

Couldn't agree more. I'm curious about the killer but have no interest in researching him because farg that piece of shtein. If there's a hell I hope he's rotting in agonizing pain. The media needs to stop glorifying these mass shootings indirectly. "We're just reporting" is a crock of shtein, they're psychoanalazing him and his behavior...other nut balls see this and want to emulate this. This all starts with society not feeding into this...just like they don't show fans who run on the field during sporting events so they can discourage stupidity.

And what Dio said is spot on. Guns are free for all do what you want...well guess what...society can't handle it. Owning a gun should be like owning a car...you're required to take mandatory safety classes, you are subject to a strict background check, you're federally required to get a license...ALL guns are registered with a title. You want to sell you'd gun? You transfer ghd title same as you do a car. You break the law you get heavily fined and lose your right to bear arms. This isn't taking people's guns away which is an impossible and stupid premise...it's making gun owners take responsibility for owning a firearm.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: phattymatty on December 18, 2012, 09:07:17 AM
definitely underplayed. other than the entire internet no one has been talking about that at all.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: SunMo on December 18, 2012, 09:10:27 AM
other than a few people on twitter i haven't seen anybody talking about it.  sorry buddy.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Diomedes on December 18, 2012, 09:17:04 AM
David Brooks (Republican) was on NPR's All Things Considered last friday pointing out that the media plays a major role in creating the notoriety that mass killers crave, and talked about the idea of depriving them of it by getting the media to stop using their names, and doing the kind of coverage that we're talking about here.

p.s.  interviewing 5 years old witnesses about mass killings ought be qualify you for Hell.  farg people who think that's a good idea, and farg people who watch it.

Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: ice grillin you on December 18, 2012, 09:39:24 AM
the best is when the news channels or talk shows do stories on whether the media is taking their coverage to far or are out of bounds in their coverage of the tradgedy

media went thru the looking glass a long time ago

i wanna farg the intestines out of erin burnett
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Tomahawk on December 18, 2012, 11:09:11 AM
Quote from: hbionic on December 18, 2012, 02:47:14 AM
Well, that's because everyone knows what to do when an atom bomb hits; Stop. Drop. And Roll.

In my school, the procedure was to hide under a desk or table and cover your head.

QuoteThis is powerful .. . .

COLUMBINE STUDENT'S FATHER 13 YEARS LATER !!
Guess our national leaders didn't expect this. On Thursday, Darrell Scott, the father of Rachel Scott, a victim of the Columbine High School shootings in Columbine, Colorado, was invited to address the House Judiciary Committee's subcommittee. What he said to our national leaders during this special session of Congress was painfully truthful.

They were not prepared for what he was to say, nor was it received well. It needs to be heard by every parent, every teacher, every politician, every Sociologist, every Psychologist, and every so-called expert! These courageous words spoken by Darrell Scott are powerful, penetrating, and deeply personal. There is no doubt that God sent this man as a voice crying in the wilderness.. The following is a portion of the transcript:

"Since the dawn of creation there has been both good & evil in the hearts of men and women. We all contain the seeds of kindness or the seeds of violence. The death of my wonderful daughter, Rachel Joy Scott, and the deaths of that heroic teacher, and the other eleven children who died must not be in vain. Their blood cries out for answers.

"The first recorded act of violence was when Cain slew his brother Abel out in the field. The villain was not the club he used.. Neither was it the NCA, the National Club Association. The true killer was Cain, and the reason for the murder could only be found in Cain's heart.

"In the days that followed the Columbine tragedy, I was amazed at how quickly fingers began to be pointed at groups such as the NRA. I am not a member of the NRA. I am not a hunter. I do not even own a gun. I am not here to represent or defend the NRA - because I don't believe that they are responsible for my daughter's death. Therefore I do not believe that they need to be defended. If I believed they had anything to do with Rachel's murder I would be their strongest opponent

I am here today to declare that Columbine was not just a tragedy -- it was a spiritual event that should be forcing us to look at where the real blame lies! Much of the blame lies here in this room. Much of the blame lies behind the pointing fingers of the accusers themselves. I wrote a poem just four nights ago that expresses my feelings best.

Your laws ignore our deepest needs,
Your words are empty air.
You've stripped away our heritage,
You've outlawed simple prayer.
Now gunshots fill our classrooms,
And precious children die.
You seek for answers everywhere,
And ask the question "Why?"
You regulate restrictive laws,
Through legislative creed.
And yet you fail to understand,
That God is what we need!

"Men and women are three-part beings. We all consist of body, mind, and spirit. When we refuse to acknowledge a third part of our make-up, we create a void that allows evil, prejudice, and hatred to rush in and wreak havoc. Spiritual presences were present within our educational systems for most of our nation's history. Many of our major colleges began as theological seminaries. This is a historical fact. What has happened to us as a nation? We have refused to honor God, and in so doing, we open the doors to hatred and violence. And when something as terrible as Columbine's tragedy occurs -- politicians immediately look for a scapegoat such as the NRA. They immediately seek to pass more restrictive laws that contribute to erode away our personal and private liberties. We do not need more restrictive laws. Eric and Dylan would not have been stopped by metal detectors. No amount of gun laws can stop someone who spends months planning this type of massacre. The real villain lies within our own hearts.

"As my son Craig lay under that table in the school library and saw his two friends murdered before his very eyes, he did not hesitate to pray in school. I defy any law or politician to deny him that right! I challenge every young person in America , and around the world, to realize that on April 20, 1999, at Columbine High School prayer was brought back to our schools. Do not let the many prayers offered by those students be in vain. Dare to move into the new millennium with a sacred disregard for legislation that violates your God-given right to communicate with Him. To those of you who would point your finger at the NRA -- I give to you a sincere challenge.. Dare to examine your own heart before casting the first stone! My daughter's death will not be in vain! The young people of this country will not allow that to happen!" - Darrell Scott
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yeah prayer will stop bullets
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: ice grillin you on December 18, 2012, 11:39:15 AM
Quote from: Tomahawk on December 18, 2012, 11:09:11 AM
yeah prayer will stop bullets


and of all people shouldnt he know this best?
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Geowhizzer on December 18, 2012, 06:01:33 PM
Quote from: Tomahawk on December 18, 2012, 11:09:11 AM
Quote from: hbionic on December 18, 2012, 02:47:14 AM
Well, that's because everyone knows what to do when an atom bomb hits; Stop. Drop. And Roll.

In my school, the procedure was to hide under a desk or table and cover your head.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IKqXu-5jw60
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: General_Failure on December 18, 2012, 07:05:08 PM
Oh god, I heard that song so many times while playing Fallout: New Vegas.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Seabiscuit36 on December 18, 2012, 07:22:58 PM
wait, you play video games?  Call the FBI
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: rjs246 on December 18, 2012, 07:55:49 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on December 18, 2012, 09:39:24 AM
i wanna farg the intestines out of erin burnett

Was told recently That she's gay. No idea if that's true but it broke my heart a little. Also gave me a Woodrow though so really it was a wash.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: ice grillin you on December 18, 2012, 09:02:55 PM
Quote from: rjs246 on December 18, 2012, 07:55:49 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on December 18, 2012, 09:39:24 AM
i wanna farg the intestines out of erin burnett

Was told recently That she's gay. No idea if that's true but it broke my heart a little. Also gave me a Woodrow though so really it was a wash.

did she break up with her fiance or something....doesnt mean shes not gay but shes been dating (and was still engaged to) the same guy for like 5 or 6 years

either way id still run up in her
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Sgt PSN on December 19, 2012, 11:28:42 AM
Who cares if she's gay?  It's not like women have any say so on who fargs them.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: hbionic on December 19, 2012, 03:30:58 PM
That's what makes cashing in rape dollars so special.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: General_Failure on December 19, 2012, 09:22:45 PM
Utah 6th grader takes gun to school, says parents encouraged him (http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2012/12/18/utah-6th-grader-takes-gun-to-school-says-parents-encouraged-him/)

Quote"At recess, he pointed a gun to my head and said he was going to kill me," fellow classmate Isabel Rios recalled.

Granite School District spokesperson Ben Horsley said that after the staff was informed, the boy was "apprehended in 30 to 45 seconds and immediately brought down to the office and the police were on site within five to 10 minutes."

Several parents told the Fox station that they were disappointed that the school had only notified them with a pre-recorded message at 5:30 p.m., after the the students were already home.

"There was no lockdown," parent John Klaus explained. "No one was called. Nothing was done. And then we had to hear it from our kids."
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Tomahawk on December 20, 2012, 10:24:58 AM
Poor John Klaus had to listen to his stupid kids.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on December 21, 2012, 11:29:09 AM
lol at the NRA press conference...dickheads
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on December 21, 2012, 11:36:30 AM
http://gawker.com/5970386/police-raid-gun-store-where-nancy-lanza-purchased-rifle-after-owner-was-unaware-that-a-man-stole-an-ar+15-with-plan-for-a-massacre
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: General_Failure on December 21, 2012, 01:15:16 PM
While the NRA Was on TV Talking About the Need for More Guns Some Guy Was Walking Up and Down a Road in Pennsylvania Shooting People (http://gawker.com/5970497/while-the-nra-was-on-tv-talking-about-the-need-for-more-guns-some-guy-was-walking-up-and-down-a-road-in-pennsylvania-shooting-people?utm_campaign=socialflow_gawker_twitter&utm_source=gawker_twitter&utm_medium=socialflow)

Because we need more Gawker links, I guess.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: hbionic on December 21, 2012, 01:55:18 PM
...so...there's a high school nearby that's on lock down right now.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: hbionic on December 21, 2012, 01:59:18 PM
False alarm, they were responding to phone threats. Two other schools in the region locked down today as well.

Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: General_Failure on December 21, 2012, 01:59:28 PM
Because of a gunman or because you're nearby?
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: hbionic on December 21, 2012, 02:05:00 PM
Hey, the court order says 100 ft. I've marked the perimeter and I was right on the line.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Diomedes on December 22, 2012, 06:54:19 AM
There was an armed police officer at Columbine.  He actually engaged one of the shooters but was unable to present much resistance because the shooter had much better firepower, and ducked back into the building.

Jim Brady and Ronald Reagan were shot surrounded by the best trained security service in the world, all of them armed.

Still, the NRA thinks it's a great idea to put armed cops in every school.  At ~$80k per year per school, I wonder who will pay for that.  Certainly not the anti-tax, "real American" gun nuts.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: SD on December 22, 2012, 09:13:14 AM
Ft. Hood had a base full of armed people and that stopped nothing.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Rome on December 22, 2012, 09:21:49 AM
The NRA is a despicable organization.  Their stance here reminds me of the war profiteers who were giddy at the prospect of conflicts in Iraq & Afghanistan because their profits would soar.

Absolutely amoral & evil at the core.

Death throes indeed.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Geowhizzer on December 22, 2012, 09:50:11 AM
My school has had an assigned deputy since I started here nearly 20 years ago.  Couldn't tell you for certain if he's paid for by the school district or the sheriff's office (I think it's the sheriff's office but wouldn't bet the house on it).  In our district the high schools and middle schools are each assigned a deputy. 

For the most part, the resource officer's (official title) role is to be a liason to the students.  He's come into my classes twice already this year for a few things:  internet safety, bullying, etc.  He's also taken kids out of school if they're caught with drugs or weapons (we've never had students with guns, but a few have come with knives of some sort).

Adding a resource officer to the elementary schools would effectively double the cost, since there are approximately double the number of elementary schools then there are middle and high schools combined.  My district (in Florida each county functions as a school district) has 50 elemtary schools.  50 schools X $50,000 (just a very rough estimation) is $2.5 million just in our school district.

As an aside, our district had a budget of over $1 billion last year.  A farging school district in one county in Florida had a burget of over a billion dollars ($1.3 Billion in 2012-2013).  A peacetime U.S. government (excluding the Civil War) didn't have a billion dollar budget until the 20th century (World War I in 1917, to be exact).
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Diomedes on December 22, 2012, 10:09:08 AM
[NRA]We can rest peacefully once each child is assigned an escort from Seal Team Six[/NRA]
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: SunMo on December 22, 2012, 11:31:40 AM
a 14 year old punk threatened a kid at Council Rock High School this week.  the threat was reported to a teacher, the police were called.  they went to his house with an arrest warrant and asked the parents if there were guns in the house.  they said yes.  however the farging guns were stored UNLOCKED IN THE 14 YEAR OLD'S BEDROOM.  the parents were also arrested for allowing firearm access to a minor.  oh yeah, there drugs in the house too. 

sweet work everybody, real solid effort
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: MDS on December 22, 2012, 01:34:21 PM
to the nra guns = toys

they have successfully turned dangerous deadly weapons into household items everyone has and everyone can have lying around willy nilly. awesome.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Diomedes on December 24, 2012, 11:52:45 AM
this guns thing is working out great

http://www.cnn.com/2012/12/24/us/new-york-firefighters-shooting/index.html?hpt=hp_t1

I suppose the NRA will suggest that we arm firefighters too.  Or provide each company a SWAT team for protection...
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Diomedes on December 24, 2012, 02:48:22 PM
http://www.cnn.com/2012/12/24/us/houston-police-killed/index.html?hpt=hp_t3

Further proof that all bystanders should be armed.  If the guy in the pickup and the other guy in the parking lot had only been armed to the teeth...
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on December 24, 2012, 03:05:54 PM
Exactly!

Bellaire isn't exactly a bad side of town...awful news
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Diomedes on December 24, 2012, 03:20:44 PM
I can visualize the scene easily..bad guy being chased, shooting.  Cop giving chase, shooting.  Guy in pick up shooting.  Bystander in parking lot, shooting.

It would have worked out much better that way.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on December 24, 2012, 03:25:13 PM
Quote from: Diomedes on December 24, 2012, 03:20:44 PM
I can visualize the scene easily..bad guy being chased, shooting.  Cop giving chase, shooting.  Guy in pick up shooting.  Bystander in parking lot, shooting.

It would have worked out much better that way.

Its Texas so don't forget to add the middle school aged children in the background ready to draw down as well
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Diomedes on December 24, 2012, 03:27:37 PM
I'm starting to think I support a total ban on guns and whatever it takes to confiscate them.

Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on December 24, 2012, 03:28:13 PM
http://www.chron.com/news/local_news/article/S-A-folks-drawn-to-assault-weapons-at-gun-show-4141064.php

Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Diomedes on December 24, 2012, 03:29:21 PM
Maybe just a ban on any firearm with post 1791 technology.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on December 24, 2012, 03:52:43 PM
http://www.philly.com/philly/news/breaking/20121224_Man_shot_in_front_of_five-year-old_son.html

South Philly in a busy parking lot.

Guy is shot in front of his 5yr old son. The video is sad as you see the kid running away at the end towards a lady
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Diomedes on December 24, 2012, 04:52:10 PM
QuoteThe assailant followed the man into the lot, got out of his car, fired 17 shots and drove off. The child was not physically injured.

fixed

Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: SunMo on December 26, 2012, 09:07:48 AM
(http://25.media.tumblr.com/947822c41cdf88107b923ee65bc9c515/tumblr_mf52ps53Hw1r5o6vko1_500.jpg)
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Rome on December 26, 2012, 09:27:52 AM
That is spectacular.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on December 26, 2012, 10:37:15 AM
That's an all timer there
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: ice grillin you on December 26, 2012, 12:02:49 PM
so david gregory is going to get arrested for doing the first good meet the press interview since tim russert died

Quote
Police Investigating 'Meet the Press'

Be careful where you bear your arms. Washington, D.C., police announced that they are investigating Meet the Press after David Gregory, the host, displayed what he said was a high-capacity ammunition magazine. The incident occurred during Gregory's interview with National Rifle Association CEO Wayne LaPierre on Sunday, while the two were discussing whether high-capacity ammunition should be banned. But Washington, D.C., law stipulates "No person in the District shall possess, sell, or transfer any large capacity ammunition feeding device" even if it is not attached to a firearm. A police spokeswoman confirmed, "We are investigating this matter."
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: ice grillin you on December 27, 2012, 01:18:31 PM
good read....especially if you are an arm everyone nut job

http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2012/12/armed-civilians-do-not-stop-mass-shootings
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: ice grillin you on December 27, 2012, 03:30:19 PM
i was going to use my gun to stop a mass shooting but instead i decided to clean it and killed my wife

http://whnt.com/2012/06/12/update-victim-of-apparent-accidental-shooting-in-morgan-county-identified/
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on December 28, 2012, 09:31:34 AM
Gloucester Cty in Jerz...domestic violence suspect gets into confrontation at the PD and gets a gun. He shot three cops (all survived) and then he was shot dead.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Diomedes on December 28, 2012, 09:32:20 AM
I love a happy ending.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Diomedes on December 28, 2012, 04:26:09 PM
http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/crime/2012/12/gun_death_tally_every_american_gun_death_since_newtown_sandy_hook_shooting.html
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: PoopyfaceMcGee on January 01, 2013, 08:20:34 AM
Just checking in to say that not one of you posted anything remotely surprising or life-changing. Really poor efforts across the board.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: SunMo on January 01, 2013, 09:16:26 AM
now you know how we feel every time you post
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: PoopyfaceMcGee on January 01, 2013, 02:47:34 PM
Quote from: SunMo on January 01, 2013, 09:16:26 AM
now you know how we feel every time you post

equally predictable

Congratulations on not being fat anymore, I guess, you salty prick. XOXOXOX
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: ice grillin you on January 01, 2013, 05:15:09 PM
guns: protecting your family since 1776

http://www.weau.com/home/headlines/BREAKING-Man-arrested-after-police-say-he-shot-his-wife-185286572.html?mobile=yes
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Seabiscuit36 on January 01, 2013, 07:34:32 PM
I fired shots into the moon last night in honor of america
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: hbionic on January 01, 2013, 07:36:36 PM
Did anything die?
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: PoopyfaceMcGee on January 01, 2013, 08:04:13 PM
Quote from: hbionic on January 01, 2013, 07:36:36 PM
Did anything die?

If so I am rooting for either a welfare suckler or an unborn fetus.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: hbionic on January 01, 2013, 08:10:40 PM
That would be a hell of a shot. Personally I'd be rooting for a wall street banker.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: ice grillin you on January 01, 2013, 10:10:46 PM
nra: the best protection from a bad guy with a gun is a toddler with a gun

http://kfor.com/2012/12/17/candlelight-vigil-held-for-3-year-old-accidental-shooting-victim/
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Sgt PSN on January 02, 2013, 10:01:09 AM
Quote from: ice grillin you on January 01, 2013, 10:10:46 PM
nra: the best protection from a bad guy with a gun is a toddler with a gun

http://kfor.com/2012/12/17/candlelight-vigil-held-for-3-year-old-accidental-shooting-victim/

QuoteTaylor Felgenhaur, the young victim's aunt, attended the vigil as well.

"It's just so like it wasn't expected or anything like that. It's not like, like he was only 3 years old," said Felgenhaur.

Um, what?
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Diomedes on January 02, 2013, 10:11:47 AM
If only he was armed, that three year old could have defended himself. 
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on January 03, 2013, 09:40:51 PM
http://globalgrind.com/news/sister-accidentally-shoots-kills-brother-trying-pose-gun-facebook-photos-video
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: ice grillin you on January 03, 2013, 09:50:01 PM
what never happens - hero with gun stops madman

what happens all the time - gun owner kills relative

stricter facebook laws!
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: ice grillin you on January 03, 2013, 11:06:37 PM
this has gone far enough....we need armed secruity guards to protect our armed security guards....more guns

http://www.masslive.com/news/index.ssf/2013/01/worcester_county_security_guar.html
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Seabiscuit36 on January 03, 2013, 11:12:09 PM
About 7 miles from my estate, somebody did shoot at the moon, and they killed a baby
http://www.cecildaily.com/news/local_news/article_59b8b71a-55d3-11e2-b4e8-001a4bcf887a.html

Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Diomedes on January 04, 2013, 09:14:13 AM
http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/maryland/crime/blog/bs-md-cecil-county-shooting-20130103,0,2286850.story


If the girl had been wearing a battle helmet, she would have been fine.  /NRA
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: ice grillin you on January 04, 2013, 09:30:23 AM
new years celebrations need armed guards
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: reese125 on January 04, 2013, 09:42:43 AM
you guys really going to post every "single" shooting in the u.s. from here on out until david keene joins CF?
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Diomedes on January 04, 2013, 10:42:59 AM
yeah, basically...what we have here is one long drawn out mass shooting, nationwide, daily, one and twos and threes at a time. 

isn't it great?
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: DH on January 04, 2013, 10:51:42 AM
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on January 03, 2013, 09:40:51 PM
http://globalgrind.com/news/sister-accidentally-shoots-kills-brother-trying-pose-gun-facebook-photos-video

The headline says "so sad"..why? I wish everyone who posts a pic of themselves holding a gun on Facebook a similar fate.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: PhillyPhanInDC on January 04, 2013, 11:45:49 AM
I'd shoot all over that reporter's face.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: ice grillin you on January 04, 2013, 12:00:46 PM
Quote from: DH on January 04, 2013, 10:51:42 AM
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on January 03, 2013, 09:40:51 PM
http://globalgrind.com/news/sister-accidentally-shoots-kills-brother-trying-pose-gun-facebook-photos-video

The headline says "so sad"..why? I wish everyone who posts a pic of themselves holding a gun on Facebook a similar fate.

maybe they meant its sad that they both didnt die
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: PoopyfaceMcGee on January 06, 2013, 05:14:01 AM
Quote from: DH on January 04, 2013, 10:51:42 AM
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on January 03, 2013, 09:40:51 PM
http://globalgrind.com/news/sister-accidentally-shoots-kills-brother-trying-pose-gun-facebook-photos-video

The headline says "so sad"..why? I wish everyone who posts a pic of themselves holding a gun on Facebook a similar fate.

Cute, but no. HOWEVER, I wish everyone who is stupid enough to pose for a photo with a LOADED GUN met a similar fate.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: ice grillin you on January 10, 2013, 09:44:54 AM
god i love the nra

http://www.npr.org/2013/01/09/168926749/nra-vows-to-stop-tuscon-from-destroying-guns?sc=tw&cc=share
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Diomedes on January 11, 2013, 06:49:40 AM
Shooter in the CA school yesterday said he was targeted for bullying by the kid he shot (and the one he shot at but missed). 

Kids best be careful who they push around these days.  You shove a nerd on Monday, on Thursday he interrupts your class and blasts you with a farging shotgun.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: ice grillin you on January 11, 2013, 01:08:12 PM
yo ill trade you my girlfriends gun for a set of tires!!....OK....blaow!...oh sorry still wanna trade?


http://democratherald.com/news/local/lebanon-men-injured-in-accidental-shooting/article_fc160852-470d-11e2-9458-0019bb2963f4.html
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: ice grillin you on January 13, 2013, 12:03:34 AM
responsible gun owner: i no longer have a penis but at least my firearm is clean

http://www.gadailynews.com/news/national/144541-florida-teen-michael-smeriglio-accidentally-shoots-off-his-penis-and-testicle-and-tried-to-blame-it-on-street-shooting.html
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on January 13, 2013, 12:26:33 AM
Hopefully it prevents him from reproducing.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: ice grillin you on January 13, 2013, 12:32:33 AM
the more i read about responsible gun owners the more ive come to the conclusion that the most dangerous thing you can do with a gun is clean it
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: General_Failure on January 13, 2013, 12:44:54 AM
While the gun is loaded, yes. Unloaded you're less likely to shoot yourself with that particular gun.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: ice grillin you on January 13, 2013, 12:47:10 AM
yeah so if you are a responsible gun owner you dont clean it loaded....see how this works?
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: General_Failure on January 13, 2013, 12:48:05 AM
Not until I look down the barrel to make sure.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: ice grillin you on January 13, 2013, 12:56:23 AM
everyone is a responsible gun owner just until right before a four year old gets got

http://fox4kc.com/2013/01/10/police-young-child-playing-with-gun-may-have-shot-girl-in-head/
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: ice grillin you on January 13, 2013, 11:04:37 AM
can you be a responsible gun owner if you are dead?

http://articles.ky3.com/2013-01-08/oregon-county_36223075
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: ice grillin you on January 13, 2013, 01:01:51 PM
has anyone ever gotten shot playing with a video game?

http://wearecentralpa.com/fulltext-news?nxd_id=424352
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: ice grillin you on January 13, 2013, 01:04:53 PM
protecting your home....

http://www.tribtoday.com/page/content.detail/id/581056/Cops--Shooting-an-accident.html?nav=5021

http://www.shelbystar.com/news/local/1-year-old-boy-shot-at-home-1.71472
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: ice grillin you on January 13, 2013, 02:51:05 PM
weird that the unthinkable happens everyday

http://www.northernnecknews.com/?p=7187
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: ice grillin you on January 13, 2013, 02:55:51 PM
mr. murderer could you please wait a minute before you kill me so i can fumble thru my purse and kill myself

http://www.wyff4.com/news/columbia-statewide-news/SC-woman-shoots-self-while-fumbling-through-purse/-/9324106/18036188/-/1l3hu6z/-/index.html#ixzz2Ht3kwVB6
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: ice grillin you on January 19, 2013, 12:33:26 PM
he sleeps with a gun underneath his pillow.....now he sleeps alone...mo guns mo death

http://www.bellinghamherald.com/2013/01/18/2843321/manslaughter-charge-filed-in-shooting.html
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: ice grillin you on January 19, 2013, 06:12:16 PM
i dont think this happens at auto or flower shows

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2013/01/19/accidental-shooting-gun-show/1847879/
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Diomedes on January 19, 2013, 06:35:10 PM
lmao, jesus christ
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: ice grillin you on January 19, 2013, 06:37:37 PM
happy gun appreciation day
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: ice grillin you on January 19, 2013, 07:01:51 PM
ATTENTION PLEASE: two more shootings at gun shows....if they were this common youd think youd hear about it more

http://www.newsandsentinel.com/page/content.detail/id/569437/Man-accidentally-shot-in-ankle-at-local-gun-show.html?nav=5061

daddy can you take me to the gun show PLEEEEEEEEEASE!!....ok honey just dont farg around and get shot

http://www.msnewsnow.com/story/19813925/4-year-old-injured-when-gun-discharges-at-tupelo-gun-show
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on January 19, 2013, 07:06:33 PM
Mississippi, Georgia & North Carolina

stars and bars, cheap beer and guns baby!
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Diomedes on January 19, 2013, 08:42:56 PM
these are supposedly the people who know how to use guns, huh?
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: ice grillin you on January 19, 2013, 08:57:05 PM
guns shows are where you go to avoid background checks and learn how to accidentily shoot people
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: General_Failure on January 19, 2013, 08:58:16 PM
Also to buy novelty paper targets.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Diomedes on January 19, 2013, 09:00:12 PM
I was in a gun shop when someone accidentally fired a gun once, less than ten feet from me.

The experience was pretty frightening, exhilarating, and infuriating all at once. 
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: ice grillin you on January 19, 2013, 09:01:04 PM
at least the nra is paying all the medical bills for these shootings....oh wait....no there not...stalincare is
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: ice grillin you on January 19, 2013, 09:30:17 PM
according to the AP a total of eight people were shot at gun shows today.....gun appreciation day

night is still young tho and its only 430 in hawaii so stay low
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: ice grillin you on January 19, 2013, 10:05:56 PM
to celebrate gun appreciation day a teen brother died

http://www.cbsatlanta.com/story/20631293/accidental-shooting-between-2-brothers-kills-1

still looking for all the articles about brave gun owners protecting the family by shooting mean intruder or black helicopter....will report back never
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: ice grillin you on January 19, 2013, 10:17:57 PM
little girl had such a precious face.....until she shot it off...gun appreciation day

http://www.newsnet5.com/dpp/news/local_news/cleveland_metro/clevealnd-police-are-investigating-the-death-of-a-6-year-old-girl-after-she-was-shot-in-the-face
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: ice grillin you on January 20, 2013, 12:54:34 AM
so nice of MA to make gun appreciation day on mlk's born day.....these are some special people

http://www.thedailybeast.com/cheats/2013/01/19/shooting-at-mlk-parade-in-miss.html
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: ice grillin you on January 20, 2013, 03:01:28 AM
enjoy!

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/01/17/gun-fails-second-amendment-rights-gone-wrong_n_2490579.html?utm_hp_ref=mostpopular
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: PoopyfaceMcGee on January 20, 2013, 03:11:34 AM
Quote from: General_Failure on January 19, 2013, 08:58:16 PM
Also to buy novelty paper targets.

Zombies and dudes in mullets are two of my favorites.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: PoopyfaceMcGee on January 20, 2013, 07:33:57 AM
This guy farging gets it.

THIS (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hR3t7j2tUec&feature=share)
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Diomedes on January 20, 2013, 07:58:34 AM
He gets what, the NRA talking points? 

There were armed police at Columbine.  They actually engaged one of the shooters.  Fat lot of good that did.

There were the best trained best armed security in the world surrounding Reagan and Brady.  Fat lot of good that did them.

More guns=more shootings.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: PoopyfaceMcGee on January 20, 2013, 08:09:35 AM
You are talking about the exceptions and not the rules. That said, are you in favor of removing armed guards from the President of the United States?
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Diomedes on January 20, 2013, 08:14:05 AM
The exceptions are when an armed citizen actually stops a crime because of his weapon.  Most of the time, he shoots himself or his wife or his kid finds the gun, etc.  What is it, more than a thousand dead by gunfire since Newtown?  You trying to tell me there were more than a thousand crimes prevented during that same period because some modern cowboy was in the right place at the right time?  Makes no sense.  More guns=more shooting.  Fewer guns, fewer shooting.

Regarding the President, you and the NRA are embarrassing yourselves with that line.  Unlike the rest of us, The President is under explicit threat on his life 24/7, so of course he's protected by armed security services.  Don't be daft.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: PoopyfaceMcGee on January 20, 2013, 08:32:40 AM
So why did you mention the inability of Reagan's security to protect him and Brady?

I guess I'll just try to pick and choose which parts of your arguments make sense. The simple point is that places law-abiding citizens are prohibited from carrying firearms are more attractive to those looking to commit mass acts of gun violence.

If you disagree with the comment in bold, there is absolutely no reason to debate the topic.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Diomedes on January 20, 2013, 08:55:01 AM
To support my point that even the best trained and armed security service couldn't stop a shooting, so the idea that rent-a-cops and art teachers with guns would prevent mass shootings is fantasy.

I do disagree.  Fort Hood was armed to the teeth.  So is the the Secret Service.  Columbine had armed guards.  None of which prevented attack.

Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: PhillyPhanInDC on January 20, 2013, 08:59:53 AM
Quote from: Diomedes on January 20, 2013, 07:58:34 AM
He gets what, the NRA talking points? 

There were armed police at Columbine.  They actually engaged one of the shooters.  Fat lot of good that did.

There were the best trained best armed security in the world surrounding Reagan and Brady.  Fat lot of good that did them.

More guns=more shootings.

1. While the kid @ Columbine was engaged in a firefight with the police at Columbine, was he shooting other kids at point blank range while they huddled under desks? No - not that for that period of time. So it likely reduced the total body count, so I'd call that a win.

2. RE: Reagan, I think it makes points for both sides, but this is why I consider shooters like Hinckley and Lanza to be roughly the equivalent of suicide bombers. They aren't necessarily deterred by countermeasures that would preclude a person who's instincts to preserve their own lives has been discarded due to ideology or mental illness. They are going to kill a lot of people, regardless of the mechanism.

3. More guns = more shootings. Correct - and I say that as a gun owner. Their are too many guns out there. We have differing opinions on how to fix it. I believe that putting all the resources into stopping the legal purchases is much less effective than getting rid of the guns on the black market, or those obtained second and third hand, while also making it a more time intensive and thorough process to purchase anything new. I'm always a little put off when I am in a gun store and I hear someone say "I need it right away."
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: PoopyfaceMcGee on January 20, 2013, 09:09:53 AM
Fair enough, Dio. I'll leave this thread to the hippos (not that you are necessarily one of them) after I leave my final thoughts.

I don't really care either way about the proposals Obama made except that they're wasteful. I personally don't need a bigger mag or an AR-15, but he's going after the wrong problem.

The real problem is that the access to guns is unfettered and untested, which leads to guns being in the hands of the wrong people... which leads to guns being disallowed and shunned from society. In North Carolina, no law-abiding non-law-enforcement officer may EVER carry a gun...
1. ...anywhere on any school grounds
2. ...into anywhere that charges admission
3. ...into a restaurant or bar that serves alcohol (even under the presumption that he or she doesn't drink any alcohol)

It is my strong opinion that if I am trained and able to wield a concealed handgun with expert skill, I should be able to have it basically anywhere I want to protect myself or my family/friends from an imminent threat to our lives. I take the responsibility very seriously and fully support stiff penalties for anyone who accidentally fires their gun or lets it get into the wrong hands.

Our governments (Federal and most all states) already make huge mistakes regarding "gun control" laws, and these proposals don't sniff at the true root causes. But because the proposals "sound" good to a lot of people, it only means even more delays at best for real reform. And the reason that reform is not being proposed is that our elected representatives on both sides of the proverbial aisle are not as interested in keeping us safe as they are in not making waves in the bulk of the arms industry and keeping their pockets lined with gun money. If they actually made it harder and more meaningful to be able to acquire a gun, a lot fewer would be sold. THAT is how "gun control" should work. Banning certain numbers of magazines and guns you've basically randomly decided to call "assault" weapons is a total red herring and yet another massive waste of money the government doesn't have.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Munson on January 20, 2013, 12:10:14 PM
Quote from: PoopyfaceMcGee on January 20, 2013, 08:32:40 AM
So why did you mention the inability of Reagan's security to protect him and Brady?

I guess I'll just try to pick and choose which parts of your arguments make sense. The simple point is that places law-abiding citizens are prohibited from carrying firearms are more attractive to those looking to commit mass acts of gun violence.

If you disagree with the comment in bold, there is absolutely no reason to debate the topic.

The point is that even people that are as highly trained as Secret Service agents can't even get it right sometimes...so the idea of Joe Dumbass with his concealed handgun protecting my freedom or safety doesn't give me the warm and fuzzies

And, if a law isn't a deterrent from a crazy looking to commit mass acts of gun violence, neither is the idea that someone might have a gun. They're not thinking like a sane person, remember?
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: PhillyPhanInDC on January 20, 2013, 12:50:04 PM
[quote author=Munson link=topic=20029.msg917239#msg917239 date=1358701814

The point is that even people that are as highly trained as Secret Service agents can't even get it right sometimes...so the idea of Joe Dumbass with his concealed handgun protecting my freedom or safety doesn't give me the warm and fuzzies

And, if a law isn't a deterrent from a crazy looking to commit mass acts of gun violence, neither is the idea that someone might have a gun. They're not thinking like a sane person, remember?
[/quote]

Munson, this is a great example of why most people don't take your arguments seriously: You stereotype an entire group of people, from all backgrounds and walks of life as ignorant and oblivious imbeciles. You picture and portray gun owners as frothing-at-the-mouth right wingers, which many are not, and you set yourself using that imagine, so that any argument counter to your's can be discounted. It really shows your ignorance and serves only to discount any valid points you make.

You then go on to use a single example of a somewhat successful assassination attempt to make the case that guns are ineffective in such scenarios, while conveniently failing to acknowledge all of the ones that were thwarted or deterred through the use of force.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Munson on January 20, 2013, 01:11:02 PM
Quote from: PhillyPhanInDC on January 20, 2013, 12:50:04 PM
Quote from: Munson on January 20, 2013, 12:10:14 PM

The point is that even people that are as highly trained as Secret Service agents can't even get it right sometimes...so the idea of Joe Dumbass with his concealed handgun protecting my freedom or safety doesn't give me the warm and fuzzies

And, if a law isn't a deterrent from a crazy looking to commit mass acts of gun violence, neither is the idea that someone might have a gun. They're not thinking like a sane person, remember?

Munson, this is a great example of why most people don't take your arguments seriously: You stereotype an entire group of people, from all backgrounds and walks of life as ignorant and oblivious imbeciles. You picture and portray gun owners as frothing-at-the-mouth right wingers, which many are not, and you set yourself using that imagine, so that any argument counter to your's can be discounted. It really shows your ignorance and serves only to discount any valid points you make.

You then go on to use a single example of a somewhat successful assassination attempt to make the case that guns are ineffective in such scenarios, while conveniently failing to acknowledge all of the ones that were thwarted or deterred through the use of force.

Where did I say that all gun owners are Joe Dumbass? My viewpoint is most Americans are Joe Dumbass. That being said, the amount of "accidents" that gun owners seem to encounter on a yearly basis doesn't do well for your stereotype either.

I am not currently a gun owner but plan on being one someday when I can afford to do so. Most likely a hunting rifle with a scope. I'd also really like to take up the bow/crossbow too. The challenge of being accurate with a bow interests me.

And I was making the case that even highly trained professionals with weapons sometimes aren't enough, so this notion that random American citizen with a gun is some effective deterrent is nothing more than wishful thinking.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Geowhizzer on January 20, 2013, 01:13:09 PM
Quote from: Diomedes on January 20, 2013, 08:55:01 AM
To support my point that even the best trained and armed security service couldn't stop a shooting, so the idea that rent-a-cops and art teachers with guns would prevent mass shootings is fantasy.

I do disagree.  Fort Hood was armed to the teeth.  So is the the Secret Service.  Columbine had armed guards.  None of which prevented attack.

Never give the art teacher at my school a gun.  We'd have 100 fewer students by 4th period.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: PhillyPhanInDC on January 20, 2013, 01:22:30 PM
Quote from: Munson on January 20, 2013, 01:11:02 PM
this notion that random American citizen with a gun is some effective deterrent is nothing more than wishful thinking.

lol
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Munson on January 20, 2013, 01:26:38 PM
It is. There is no evidence that supports that having a gun owner in the area of a mass shooting has any better chance of stopping said shooter than it does of resulting in more injuries.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: PhillyPhanInDC on January 20, 2013, 01:41:18 PM
So now it's mass shootings only? I thought we were talking crime in general.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Munson on January 20, 2013, 01:51:19 PM
I thought we were talking gun crime, more specifically murder, considering it was coming off of the assassination attempt/Secret Service talk.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: ice grillin you on January 20, 2013, 01:56:24 PM
one of the nice perks of the presidency is having to worry about your family being killed 24/7...its one of the main reasons people run for the office
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: PhillyPhanInDC on January 20, 2013, 01:58:21 PM
Okay, so now that we have a context, your argument is that persons carrying firearms, concealed or otherwise, do not serve as a deterrent or mitigation factor in crimes, correct?
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: ice grillin you on January 20, 2013, 02:01:35 PM
Quote from: Diomedes on January 20, 2013, 08:55:01 AM
To support my point that even the best trained and armed security service couldn't stop a shooting, so the idea that rent-a-cops and art teachers with guns would prevent mass shootings is fantasy.

I do disagree.  Fort Hood was armed to the teeth.  So is the the Secret Service.  Columbine had armed guards.  None of which prevented attack.

cops were murdered in a police station in south jerz last month.....i think we need armed guards at police stations thruout the country

GUNS!!
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Munson on January 20, 2013, 02:09:46 PM
Quote from: PhillyPhanInDC on January 20, 2013, 01:58:21 PM
Okay, so now that we have a context, your argument is that persons carrying firearms, concealed or otherwise, do not serve as a deterrent or mitigation factor in crimes, correct?

No, my argument was that it wouldn't be any more likely to stop a murder from happening as it would be in resulting in further injury or destruction. Especially in some of the panic-inducing scenarios that many pro-gun people have been bringing up (ie "If only that principal or a teacher was armed that day")

Crime in general, I do not know. Guns can certainly be a deterrent to robbery, but even that relies on the owner and the conditions of the scenario. Crime goes deeper than just whether people have a gun or not....it's a cultural thing. There are countries who have very strict gun laws and very low crime overall, and countries with very strict gun laws that have higher rates of other crime. There's also the issue of poverty and crime, and how our efforts to lower crime might be better focused if we stopped worrying about arming the populous and started worrying more about getting people out of poverty.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on January 20, 2013, 02:50:45 PM
Another one...

http://www.cnn.com/2013/01/20/justice/new-mexico-shooting/index.html?hpt=hp_t3

QuoteA teenage boy faces murder and other charges in the shooting deaths of a man, a woman and three children in a home on the outskirts of Albuquerque, New Mexico, authorities said Sunday.

Investigators were still combing over the home on the southwestern edge of the city where investigators found the victims Saturday night, said Deputy Aaron Williamson, a spokesman for the Bernalillo County Sheriff's Department. It was unclear whether the teenager now in custody is related to the victims, nor would Williamson disclose whether the victims -- who included two boys and a girl -- were related.

Williamson said each victim had been shot multiple times. Several guns were found inside the home, including a "military-style" rifle he said had been used in the crime.

The teen is being charged with two counts of murder and three counts of child abuse resulting in death, the sheriff's department said. He was arrested after being questioned at the sheriff's office and is likely to be arraigned on Tuesday, Williamson said.

Neither the victims' nor the suspect's identities had been released Sunday afternoon.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: ice grillin you on January 20, 2013, 02:52:23 PM
protecting your family
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: reese125 on January 22, 2013, 02:24:34 PM
2 shot possibly 3 wounded at Lone Star Community college in Texas today

students and faculty on lockdown
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on January 22, 2013, 02:45:30 PM
Yep - not too far from my work. One of my coworkers daughter goes there.

News says that it appears it started as an argument...GUNS!!!!
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: SunMo on January 22, 2013, 02:54:33 PM
i'm sure when they say argument it was an all american great dad protecting his family from a gang of thugs
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on January 22, 2013, 07:16:35 PM
http://www.khou.com/news/Reports-of-shooting-at-Lone-Star-College-in-North-Harris-County-187912461.html

QuoteThose two men both ended up with gunshot wounds, and one of them shot and wounded a maintenance man who was an innocent bystander, according to acting Harris County Sheriff Armando Tello.

QuoteA law enforcement source said the gunman shot the man he was arguing with, then accidentally shot himself in the buttocks.

Lone Star College student Brittany Mobley said she saw the whole thing happen.

"I saw two dudes basically get into an altercation and the dude that shot, he basically got angry and started shooting the other guy," said Mobley. "A lot of people heard a lot of shots."

Mobley said the suspect had the gun hidden in his clothes.

"Basically, I seen the dude that shot him and as soon as I heard the bullets flying and the gun being fired off, then everyone started running and it was a hint for me to start running as well," Mobley said.

1. the shooter shot himself in the ass
2. this girl needs remedial English classes pronto - and if you told he she could not say basically or dude anymore she'd be crushed
3. GUNS!
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Seabiscuit36 on January 22, 2013, 07:38:05 PM
4.  Lets see if that guns is legal
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: ice grillin you on January 22, 2013, 07:41:33 PM
texas state legislature is currently deciding whether to make it legal to carry guns on school campuses....i think thats a wonderful idea
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: PhillyPhanInDC on January 22, 2013, 07:59:56 PM
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on January 22, 2013, 07:16:35 PM
http://www.khou.com/news/Reports-of-shooting-at-Lone-Star-College-in-North-Harris-County-187912461.html

QuoteThose two men both ended up with gunshot wounds, and one of them shot and wounded a maintenance man who was an innocent bystander, according to acting Harris County Sheriff Armando Tello.

QuoteA law enforcement source said the gunman shot the man he was arguing with, then accidentally shot himself in the buttocks.

Lone Star College student Brittany Mobley said she saw the whole thing happen.

"I saw two dudes basically get into an altercation and the dude that shot, he basically got angry and started shooting the other guy," said Mobley. "A lot of people heard a lot of shots."

Mobley said the suspect had the gun hidden in his clothes.

"Basically, I seen the dude that shot him and as soon as I heard the bullets flying and the gun being fired off, then everyone started running and it was a hint for me to start running as well," Mobley said.

1. the shooter shot himself in the ass
2. this girl needs remedial English classes pronto - and if you told he she could not say basically or dude anymore she'd be crushed
3. GUNS!

The local news radio station was playing interviews from the school - hard to believe any of them were college students. Alot of "Cause we was just running" and "We are all, like, you know, running from the shots."
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Seabiscuit36 on January 22, 2013, 08:04:11 PM
It's actually a school to teach the fine arts of being waitstaff and cooks at Lone Star restaurant
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on January 22, 2013, 08:45:30 PM
Quote from: Seabiscuit36 on January 22, 2013, 07:38:05 PM
4.  Lets see if that guns is legal

Legal or not it shouldn't be happening.

One of those perfectly legal guns was in the hands of a jerkoff power hungry fella a couple years ago when he went and smoked his neighbor for music being too loud. Guy walks over to the house where the BBQ is going in and makes a scene. He's on the phone with 911 and shoots the guy and tries to come off as he was standing his ground...his ground at his neighbors house where he went.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: ice grillin you on January 22, 2013, 08:49:26 PM
people with guns kill more people than people without guns....its science

Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Sgt PSN on January 23, 2013, 07:22:13 AM
Quote from: ice grillin you on January 22, 2013, 08:49:26 PM
people with guns kill more people than people without guns....its science



Yup. Just ask the Native Americans.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Seabiscuit36 on January 23, 2013, 07:51:52 AM
Quote from: Sgt PSN on January 23, 2013, 07:22:13 AM
Quote from: ice grillin you on January 22, 2013, 08:49:26 PM
people with guns kill more people than people without guns....its science



Yup. Just ask the Native Americans.
Guns kill more than cars?

Heck Sarge keeps his Native American as a captive
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: ice grillin you on January 23, 2013, 09:40:21 AM
fox and nra....effin psychos

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZIr1xn69sT0&feature=player_embedded#!
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: MDS on January 23, 2013, 12:36:34 PM
until proven otherwise i will go to my deathbed thinking brent bozzell is the worst human being ever
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Sgt PSN on January 23, 2013, 01:46:31 PM
Quote from: Seabiscuit36 on January 23, 2013, 07:51:52 AM
Quote from: Sgt PSN on January 23, 2013, 07:22:13 AM
Quote from: ice grillin you on January 22, 2013, 08:49:26 PM
people with guns kill more people than people without guns....its science



Yup. Just ask the Native Americans.
Guns kill more than cars?

Heck Sarge keeps his Native American as a captive

I'm preventing an uprising. Even after serving, I'm still keeping 'Merica safe.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: ice grillin you on January 23, 2013, 02:37:16 PM
the great taibbi

http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/blogs/taibblog/conservatives-have-their-worst-week-ever-20130123
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: SunMo on January 24, 2013, 09:05:51 AM
legtimate status update on facebook:

"Thoughts on gun control/confiscation: see the movie Zero Dark Thirty and tell me what you propose if we were ever attacked on the Homeland. Oh wait...."


assault rifles would have stopped 9/11...now I know
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Diomedes on January 24, 2013, 09:11:30 AM
Paranoid idiots.  If we're ever attacked on the homeland, the Marines would have something to say about that.  As would the Navy, the Army, the Air Force, and the Coast Guard. 

I'll take my chances with them defending us over some racist yokel with a few shotguns AR 15s and canned food.

Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: PoopyfaceMcGee on January 24, 2013, 09:18:25 AM
I oppose the new laws because they don't address the roots of gun violence, are somewhat arbitrary and contrived, are designed to placate gun lobbies, don't make us any safer, and are a complete waste of already-strapped government funding.

The best arguments I've heard in favor of these proposals center around the "at least they're trying something" side. I disagree. Doing something wasteful and ineffective is actually worse than doing what needs to be done to truly make this country safer.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Sgt PSN on January 24, 2013, 09:38:56 AM
Quote from: PoopyfaceMcGee on January 24, 2013, 09:18:25 AM
I oppose the new laws because they don't address the roots of gun violence

The roots of gun violence is pretty simple, imo.  Human nature.  There's been gun violence basically since the invention of the hand held gun.  Plenty of people say that we've created a "gun culture" over the last 20 or 30 years with movies, video games and music that glorifies and encourages gun violence, but we all know that simply isn't the case.  If it were, then we wouldn't have the stories of legendary gun slingers in the Old West, would we?  Afterall, Billy the Kid wasn't inspired by Dirty Harry, Halo or NWA. 

People are dicks and we're inherently violent towards one another and when we get mad enough we reach for the most convenient weapon we can get our hands on.  I imagine that a few thousand years ago, rock violence was out of control.  After that, spears didn't kill people....people with spears killed people.  Then knives and the bow and arrow.  And today it's guns.  The tools have changed over the years to make our killing more efficient, but man's violent behavior hasn't....at least not much.  We're really no less civil today than we were 200 or even 2000 years ago.

So unless science nerds can somehow discover a way to suppress the violence gene, it really doesn't matter what gun laws are put in place.  You can't stop gun violence unless you can figure out a way to stop violence altogether. 

I'm in favor of putting more rules and regs around gun ownership.  I think we need to make sure that anyone buying a gun is properly trained, licensed and mentally stable enough to bear the responsibility of owning them and to also make owners criminally responsible if their gun results in an accidental death or is used in criminal activity.  But I'm not under the delusion that any changes to the purchasing/registration system are going to significantly change the amount of deaths/injuries by gun in this country.  That won't change until we do.   
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Diomedes on January 24, 2013, 09:56:13 AM
Quote from: Sgt PSN on January 24, 2013, 09:38:56 AMYou can't stop gun violence unless you can figure out a way to stop violence altogether.

False.  You are assuming guns are naturally as abundant as rocks and knives.  They happen to be as easy to get in America as knives and rocks, but they don't have to be. 

No gun=no gun violence.

I read something interesting recently on the topic of suicide and guns.  More people kill themselves with a gun each year than are killed by someone else with one, so suicide is being talked about a lot now too.  It turns out that people who attempt suicide and survive, without regard to the method of the attempt, are a lot more unlkely to try again than you would think.  In short, a great number of suicide attempts are done rashly, and if the person doesn't succeed, they usually don't try again.  It is also true that guns are by far the most successful method, with mortality rates per suicide attempt far far higher than any other method.

So the argument goes that, if guns weren't so profligate in our society, we'd have far fewer suicides, even if all the people who would have attempted suicide with a gun still go through with the attempt by a different method.

No gun=no bullet to the brain.

Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: ice grillin you on January 24, 2013, 10:14:45 AM
machine guns are the perfect example that gun control laws work

ban semi automatic weapons and eventually they will not be used to mass murder
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Diomedes on January 24, 2013, 10:16:45 AM
Why isn't the NRA lobbying to have machine guns de-criminalized?
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: PoopyfaceMcGee on January 24, 2013, 10:18:18 AM
Quote from: ice grillin you on January 24, 2013, 10:14:45 AM
machine guns are the perfect example that gun control laws work

ban semi automatic weapons and eventually they will not be used to mass murder

Sorry, no. Not if a cop can carry them too. Not if you don't start (and fund) a massive program to have all the ones out there, like mine and Dio's, confiscated with adequate compensation. You're not thinking this through... Not that it's anything new for you, but being a stubborn know-it-all is no excuse for avoiding reasonable debate.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Diomedes on January 24, 2013, 10:22:17 AM
Confiscated?  Pshaw. 

Set up a buy back program, call it mandatory.  People either bring their shtein in and get paid, or they don't, and after a defined date, they become de facto criminals subject to any and all laws should they be caught in possession of the gun.  We don't have a registry, so it's not like the boogie man feds are going to come knocking on your door.

Want to keep your gun, take the risk that you'll get put in jail for it should someone rat you out, or should you end up using it/having someone else use it. 
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: ice grillin you on January 24, 2013, 10:26:24 AM
its pretty simple actually....but if we gave up semi autos we wouldnt be able to shoot down the black helicopters
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Sgt PSN on January 24, 2013, 10:30:12 AM
Quote from: Diomedes on January 24, 2013, 09:56:13 AM
Quote from: Sgt PSN on January 24, 2013, 09:38:56 AMYou can't stop gun violence unless you can figure out a way to stop violence altogether.

False.  You are assuming guns are naturally as abundant as rocks and knives.  They happen to be as easy to get in America as knives and rocks, but they don't have to be. 

No gun=no gun violence.

Are you suggesting that knives are naturally abundant? 

Obviously rounding up every gun, melting them down and making them extinct puts an end to gun associated violence.  But it doesn't end violence, it just changes the tool people use to be violent.  The only real benefit is that it would make killing less efficient.  Can't kill fifty people in the mall with a bow and arrow in 10 seconds.  Maybe you look at that as a victory because only 2 people are dead instead of 50, but the families of those 2 people won't see it the same way.   

QuoteI read something interesting recently on the topic of suicide and guns.  More people kill themselves with a gun each year than are killed by someone else with one, so suicide is being talked about a lot now too.  It turns out that people who attempt suicide and survive, without regard to the method of the attempt, are a lot more unlkely to try again than you would think.  In short, a great number of suicide attempts are done rashly, and if the person doesn't succeed, they usually don't try again.  It is also true that guns are by far the most successful method, with mortality rates per suicide attempt far far higher than any other method.

So the argument goes that, if guns weren't so profligate in our society, we'd have far fewer suicides, even if all the people who would have attempted suicide with a gun still go through with the attempt by a different method.

No gun=no bullet to the brain.

I'm curious about the number of failed suicide attempts with guns vs other methods.  I suspect that the fail rate is much lower with guns than it is with attempted drug overdose, poisoning, wrist cutting, etc.  Probably because the people who put a gun in their mouth seriously want to leave this world and the wrist cutter is crying out for help. 

Taking away the gun only changes the means, not the result.  If someone truly wants to kill himself, he'll jump off a bridge or do something else that leaves little/no room for survival.  No one is forcing you to be in this world.  You didn't come here voluntarily but if you choose to take yourself out, by all means feel free.  Just try not to take anyone else with you or leave a huge mess to clean up. 
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Seabiscuit36 on January 24, 2013, 10:31:36 AM
Quote from: ice grillin you on January 24, 2013, 10:14:45 AM
machine guns are the perfect example that gun control laws work

ban semi automatic weapons and eventually they will not be used to mass murder
This is the problem i have with the "ban semi automatics" argument.  Semi-automatic just means that a gun that operates on a gas system or load another round rather than a manual action.  I have a Browning A-5 12ga magnum,and a Remington 11-87 that I use for goose and duck hunting.  Would that fit your list of Scary? 

I happen to agree with Sarge with Humans are inherently violent.  No matter what weapon you have around, some icehole is going to find a way to kill another. 
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: ice grillin you on January 24, 2013, 10:37:19 AM
Quote from: Seabiscuit36 on January 24, 2013, 10:31:36 AM
Quote from: ice grillin you on January 24, 2013, 10:14:45 AM
machine guns are the perfect example that gun control laws work

ban semi automatic weapons and eventually they will not be used to mass murder
This is the problem i have with the "ban semi automatics" argument.  Semi-automatic just means that a gun that operates on a gas system or load another round rather than a manual action.  I have a Browning A-5 12ga magnum,and a Remington 11-87 that I use for goose and duck hunting.  Would that fit your list of Scary? 

I happen to agree with Sarge with Humans are inherently violent.  No matter what weapon you have around, some icehole is going to find a way to kill another. 

you are wasting your time giving me the differences in guns because id abolishment the 2nd amendment if i had my way

obviously thats not going to happen so ill start with any gun i can

i honestly cant think of a single legitimate reason for guns to be legal outside of ones home or business...and guns that are allowed in those two places should be limited to non automatic handguns
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: PoopyfaceMcGee on January 24, 2013, 10:38:59 AM
Quote from: Diomedes on January 24, 2013, 10:22:17 AM
Confiscated?  Pshaw. 

Set up a buy back program, call it mandatory.  People either bring their shtein in and get paid, or they don't, and after a defined date, they become de facto criminals subject to any and all laws should they be caught in possession of the gun.  We don't have a registry, so it's not like the boogie man feds are going to come knocking on your door.

Want to keep your gun, take the risk that you'll get put in jail for it should someone rat you out, or should you end up using it/having someone else use it.

"Mandatory buy back" = confiscated = totalitarian, controlling, fascist government

That's some preposterous stuff, guys.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Diomedes on January 24, 2013, 10:41:13 AM
Quote from: Sgt PSN on January 24, 2013, 10:30:12 AMThe only real benefit is that it would make killing less efficient.  Can't kill fifty people in the mall with a bow and arrow in 10 seconds.  Maybe you look at that as a victory because only 2 people are dead instead of 50, but the families of those 2 people won't see it the same way.

That's a hell of a real benefit, wouldn't you say?

Quote from: Sgt PSN on January 24, 2013, 10:30:12 AMI'm curious about the number of failed suicide attempts with guns vs other methods.  I suspect that the fail rate is much lower with guns than it is with attempted drug overdose, poisoning, wrist cutting, etc.  Probably because the people who put a gun in their mouth seriously want to leave this world and the wrist cutter is crying out for help.

This is just the point...all evidence from suicide survivors points to the act being, by and large, impulsive, not deliberative.  Whether you use a gun or jump off a bridge is irrelevant, except the former is a hell of a lot more efficient.

Quote from: Sgt PSN on January 24, 2013, 10:30:12 AMTaking away the gun only changes the means, not the result.  If someone truly wants to kill himself, he'll jump off a bridge or do something else that leaves little/no room for survival.  No one is forcing you to be in this world.  You didn't come here voluntarily but if you choose to take yourself out, by all means feel free.  Just try not to take anyone else with you or leave a huge mess to clean up. 

No, no, no.  The lack of the gun would guarantee a higher survival rate.  People jump off bridges and survive all the time.  They take pills and wake up in hospital.  They run the car in the garage and someone finds them. 

It is true that people who are determined to kill themselves will do so gun or not, but it is not true that most of the people who attempt suicide are in fact determined to do it.  Most are acting on impulse.  With a gun, that impulse is far more likely to result in suicide than without a gun.

pullling numbers out of my ass here, but this is the gist of it

Gun + impulse=95% success rate.
No gun + impulse=80% success rate.

15% of 30k plus people per year is a lot of lives.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Diomedes on January 24, 2013, 10:44:50 AM
Quote from: PoopyfaceMcGee on January 24, 2013, 10:38:59 AMThat's some preposterous stuff, guys.

What's preposterous is guns for anyone and everyone, which is what we've got now thanks to the gun industry, and paranoid ignorant people who think their gun is what makes them free.

It's one or the other...wicked strict system for controlling guns--fascist as you would call it--or dead kids on the regular.  Seems to me that dead kids is a price that gun lovers are willing to pay so they can cling to the frontier fiction of their gun keeping the wolves at bay.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: SunMo on January 24, 2013, 10:47:42 AM
Quote from: Diomedes on January 24, 2013, 10:44:50 AM
  Seems to me that dead kids is a price that gun lovers are willing to pay so they can cling to the frontier fiction of their gun keeping the wolves at bay.

yup, what's a few dead kids as long as we have our walmart assault rifles to shoot at unmanned drones in the event our government turns on us
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: PoopyfaceMcGee on January 24, 2013, 10:48:52 AM
Quote from: Diomedes on January 24, 2013, 10:44:50 AM
Quote from: PoopyfaceMcGee on January 24, 2013, 10:38:59 AMThat's some preposterous stuff, guys.

What's preposterous is guns for anyone and everyone, which is what we've got now thanks to the gun industry, and paranoid ignorant people who think their gun is what makes them free.

It's one or the other...wicked strict system for controlling guns--fascist as you would call it--or dead kids on the regular.  Seems to me that dead kids is a price that gun lovers are willing to pay so they can cling to the frontier fiction of their gun keeping the wolves at bay.

My point is that going after the guns is fruitless and wasteful. The government must go after the system of purchasing guns, acquiring licenses, etc... And make efforts to go through the backlog of crazies who already own or have access to guns. Also, the penalties should be absolutely prohibitive for any mishandling of a gun whatsoever. I don't care if it's an "accident"... If someone shoots YOUR GUN somewhere they shouldn't, YOU go to jail. Period.

Start with the penalties for gun crimes, and work backwards. Put more people in jail for misuse of guns and fewer people in jail for drugs and prostitution, etc. No fanfare or hero worship for surviving gun criminals... Make their asses anonymous.

Seriously, write this down.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Diomedes on January 24, 2013, 10:53:02 AM
Hey, sign me up for that..it would be a huge improvement.

But nothing would beat doing what Australia did, and I'd gladly turn in my gun if everyone else had to do it as well.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Seabiscuit36 on January 24, 2013, 10:56:13 AM
The real question is "when will Walmart start carrying stinger missiles?" 

Btw, what is up with the repeated things I keep seeing that Lanza didn't take the ar15 into the school? 
http://video.today.msnbc.msn.com/today/50208495#50208495 

Was this info debunked? 
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: PoopyfaceMcGee on January 24, 2013, 11:00:18 AM
Quote from: Diomedes on January 24, 2013, 10:53:02 AM
Hey, sign me up for that..it would be a huge improvement.

But nothing would beat doing what Australia did, and I'd gladly turn in my gun if everyone else had to do it as well.

Define the term in bold, and we might be getting somewhere.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Diomedes on January 24, 2013, 11:01:10 AM
Quote from: Seabiscuit36 on January 24, 2013, 10:56:13 AMThe real question is "when will Walmart start carrying stinger missiles?"

It's a good rhetorical question.  I repeat from before:  why doesn't the NRA try to get machine guns legalized? 

The arguments they are using to defend all other weapons would work just as well for machine guns and rocket launchers.

So what is it about those weapons that they don't protect our rights to own them? 
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: ice grillin you on January 24, 2013, 11:01:59 AM
Quote from: PoopyfaceMcGee on January 24, 2013, 11:00:18 AM
Quote from: Diomedes on January 24, 2013, 10:53:02 AM
Hey, sign me up for that..it would be a huge improvement.

But nothing would beat doing what Australia did, and I'd gladly turn in my gun if everyone else had to do it as well.

Define the term in bold, and we might be getting somewhere.

the same people who turned in all their machine guns
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Sgt PSN on January 24, 2013, 11:04:01 AM
Quote from: Diomedes on January 24, 2013, 10:53:02 AM
Hey, sign me up for that..it would be a huge improvement.

But nothing would beat doing what Australia did, and I'd gladly turn in my gun if everyone else had to do it as well.

I would as well.  Don't get me wrong.....the world would certainly be a safer place without a single gun in it.  I won't argue that point with you at all.  But that wouldn't necessarily make it better because the amount of violent acts wouldn't change, only the fallout.  You'd still have crazies out there with knifes and crossbows running amuck.  The death toll goes down but the number of incidents remains the same.  It's not really solving the problem, it's just making it more palatable to deal with.

And since it's impossible to round up every gun in existence while simultaneously halting the production of guns around the world, we might as well focus more on the cause for violence rather than the tool used to carry it out. 
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Diomedes on January 24, 2013, 11:05:17 AM
Quote from: PoopyfaceMcGee on January 24, 2013, 11:00:18 AMDefine the term in bold, and we might be getting somewhere.

In this scenario, everyone means everyone.  Every single person residing in the country.

People authorized to carry weapons as part of their job--cops, FBI agents, etc--carry only while on the job.  Anyone else caught with a gun goes to jail for long long time.

Twenty or fifty years of that and gun violence in America is a relic of the bad old days.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: PoopyfaceMcGee on January 24, 2013, 11:08:33 AM
Quote from: Diomedes on January 24, 2013, 11:05:17 AM
Quote from: PoopyfaceMcGee on January 24, 2013, 11:00:18 AMDefine the term in bold, and we might be getting somewhere.

In this scenario, everyone means everyone.  Every single person residing in the country.

People authorized to carry weapons as part of their job--cops, FBI agents, etc--carry only while on the job.  Anyone else caught with a gun goes to jail for long long time.

Twenty or fifty years of that and gun violence in America is a relic of the bad old days.

Nope, still not quite there. I'm busy for the rest of the day. Sarge has the con.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Diomedes on January 24, 2013, 11:12:30 AM
Quote from: Sgt PSN on January 24, 2013, 11:04:01 AM...because the amount of violent acts wouldn't change, only the fallout.  You'd still have crazies out there with knifes and crossbows running amuck.  The death toll goes down but the number of incidents remains the same...

Au contraire mon frere.  Any coward can point a gun at someone....it takes actual balls to knife someone, or beat 'em with a bat.   Violence as an idea is constant in humanity, sure, but incidence of violence is not constant.  Elimination of guns would not result in an epidemic of stabbings and beatings.  There would just be a lot less violence, because it would be much harder to accomplish.


Quote from: Sgt PSN on January 24, 2013, 11:04:01 AMAnd since it's impossible to round up every gun in existence while simultaneously halting the production of guns around the world, we might as well focus more on the cause for violence rather than the tool used to carry it out.

I reject the idea that it's impossible to purge guns from a society.  It is, strictly speaking, perfectly possible, and it has been done.  Sure, it won't happen, but that's a different subject. 

I could give a shtein why people are violent, what I want is to make it far more difficult for violent people to kill.  And no guns=no gun deaths.  So there.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: ice grillin you on January 24, 2013, 11:17:05 AM
Quote from: Sgt PSN on January 24, 2013, 11:04:01 AM
And since it's impossible to round up every gun in existence while simultaneously halting the production of guns around the world, we might as well focus more on the cause for violence rather than the tool used to carry it out. 

if you could show me some numbers...perhaps from other countries....that less guns doesnt mean less murder then i might agree with this...but a fight or argument without a gun will end better than one with a gun...same with a burglary...a car jacking....a home invasion...its to easy to kill people with a gun they are scarily efficient
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Sgt PSN on January 24, 2013, 11:30:00 AM
Quote from: Diomedes on January 24, 2013, 11:12:30 AM
Quote from: Sgt PSN on January 24, 2013, 11:04:01 AM...because the amount of violent acts wouldn't change, only the fallout.  You'd still have crazies out there with knifes and crossbows running amuck.  The death toll goes down but the number of incidents remains the same...

Au contraire mon frere.  Any coward can point a gun at someone....it takes actual balls to knife someone, or beat 'em with a bat.   Violence as an idea is constant in humanity, sure, but incidence of violence is not constant.  Elimination of guns would not result in an epidemic of stabbings and beatings.  There would just be a lot less violence, because it would be much harder to accomplish.

I'll give you that.  Whether or not the decrease in overall violence is tremendous or minimal, the guy shooting up a school or mall probably won't attempt it with a knife.  So no guns would def = no mass killings.  But I don't know if there would be a significant decline in "one-on-one crimes" that involve guns.  Would there be a substantial drop in the number of home invasions, rapes, gang wars, crimes of passion, etc?  Maybe.  But won't say for certain one way or the other.  But I do think that 2 drunks having an argument will still result in death or serious injury with or without a gun.  I think a guy still kills his cheating wife and her lover with or without a gun.  The numbers likely would decrease, but it still doesn't address the real problem, imo.

Also, this is Uhmer'ca.  Speak English, commie.   

Quote
Quote from: Sgt PSN on January 24, 2013, 11:04:01 AMAnd since it's impossible to round up every gun in existence while simultaneously halting the production of guns around the world, we might as well focus more on the cause for violence rather than the tool used to carry it out.

I reject the idea that it's impossible to purge guns from a society.  It is, strictly speaking, perfectly possible, and it has been done.  Sure, it won't happen, but that's a different subject. 

What society has successfully purged guns?  Australia might have laws prohibiting them, but they haven't purged anything. 

QuoteI could give a shtein why people are violent, what I want is to make it far more difficult for violent people to kill.  And no guns=no gun deaths.  So there.

lol.  I won't argue the logic.  I feel the same way.  But I'd still rather address the roots of violence rather than focus solely on the means. 
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: General_Failure on January 24, 2013, 11:32:20 AM
Quote from: ice grillin you on January 24, 2013, 11:17:05 AM
Quote from: Sgt PSN on January 24, 2013, 11:04:01 AM
And since it's impossible to round up every gun in existence while simultaneously halting the production of guns around the world, we might as well focus more on the cause for violence rather than the tool used to carry it out. 

if you could show me some numbers...perhaps from other countries....that less guns doesnt mean less murder then i might agree with this

Central and South America skew the numbers way away from that. The countries with the most guns are the US, Serbia, Yemen, France, and Germany. The countries with the highest murder rates are Honduras, El Salvador, Ivory Coast, Jamaica, Venezuela, and Belieze. All the countries with the guns are in the middle of the pack as far as murder rates go.

Some day we'll all everyone but MDS will tell their grandchildren where they were the day IGY was right.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on January 24, 2013, 10:25:59 PM
Can anyone give a convincing argument as to why weapons such as MAC-10's should be legal?
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: hbionic on January 24, 2013, 10:31:31 PM
Because someone out there has MAC-7's and we all know that 7-8-9?
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: PoopyfaceMcGee on January 25, 2013, 04:46:10 AM
Has it been mentioned that the killer at Sandy Hook decided against using the AR-15?

Left it in his trunk.


So, again... Whether you are "pro-gun" or "anti-gun," these proposals are a waste of government funds and a red herring. We should demand better.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Sgt PSN on January 25, 2013, 08:07:20 AM
Don't know if that was mentioned here, but I know I saw that tidbit elsewhere. Should also be noted that he tried to purchase a rifle about a week before the shooting and was denied.

Not sure if this would be overreach or not, but it may not be a bad idea to have a red flag pop up somewhere when a person is denied a gun. Maybe it's just me but it seems like a good idea to look into why a person was denied the gun and why an unqualified person was trying to buy in the first place.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Seabiscuit36 on January 25, 2013, 08:11:32 AM
Snopes says that he used the AR.  The false report was by NBC following the aftermath, when bad info was leaked.  Press didnt understand the difference between the gun in the trunk, and the AR involved.   http://www.snopes.com/politics/guns/newtown.asp
http://www.nbcconnecticut.com/news/local/Sandy-Hook-Gunman-Had-4-Guns-State-Police-188031071.html

Though this is the first time i've heard that he had a Saiga


Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: PoopyfaceMcGee on January 25, 2013, 10:27:32 AM
So, he didn't even have one. Right.

Great work by our government reacting to this incident with laws that make no sense instead of laws that actually might work.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: SunMo on January 25, 2013, 10:45:08 AM
have fun at militia practice this weekend
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: rjs246 on January 25, 2013, 10:53:47 AM
It's called the militia prayer circle jerk. Get it right.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: SunMo on January 25, 2013, 10:55:48 AM
i would go to that...you know, for research
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: PoopyfaceMcGee on January 25, 2013, 11:07:48 AM
Be dismissive all you like. The laws I would propose would be much more restrictive and reduce the number of guns in circulation infinitely better than the ones proposed.

You guys aren't really nice people. Maybe work on that.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: rjs246 on January 25, 2013, 11:25:20 AM
I like the laws that you've proposed and have said so repeatedly. That doesn't mean that the laws being proposed don't also have value.

Regardless, mocking is more or less all I do on the internets so, no, I won't be working on that. Praying to sweet baby jebus and gun-nuttery tend to go hand in hand and I think you'd have a hard time disagreeing with that.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: PoopyfaceMcGee on January 25, 2013, 11:30:07 AM
They don't. In fact the gentleman who taught me my concealed carry class, one Russell Smith, is an athiest.

While this link is attempting to solely blame Obama for the following numbers, the numbers are still correct:
The trend of our government and some really scary numbers (http://waysandmeans.house.gov/news/documentsingle.aspx?DocumentID=317292)

This is why legislation like this is more hurtful than helpful. Throwing away government funds on largely ineffective legislation instead of truly attacking the roots of the problem is exactly the standard cop-out that our elected officials regularly take. How much longer are we going to accept mediocrity?
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: rjs246 on January 25, 2013, 11:35:58 AM
Considering the definition of mediocrity, probably indefinitely.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: PoopyfaceMcGee on January 25, 2013, 11:37:00 AM
High five!
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Tomahawk on January 25, 2013, 12:43:15 PM
I don't own gun(s) but could readily borrow or steal several from many friends. I'm not sure what's involved with the President's proposal/edict/whatever 'cause I really don't give a farg...mandate every citizen is given at least a handgun and a 6 pack when they turn 18 as far as I care. That being said, I don't understand how there can be any opposition to limiting clip sizes...seems like an easy way to reduce body counts when a person decides to shoot a shtein ton of people.

What's concerning is gun control (which is such a vague term, people can't be sure they're even talking about the same thing when arguing about it) does absolutely nothing to address the root cause: crazy motherfargers. Probably even before the icehole at Kent State, people have liked to prove their mental instability by shooting as many people they've never met as they can. I guaranmotherfargingtee there's an inverse relationship between state funded mental hospitals closing and increasing mass shooting occurrences.

This point was discussed immediately after Sandy Hook but seems to be largely ignored now.

Also, if you wanna get pissed off or worried about government tyranny, get pissed off about the Patriot Act. The revocation of due process is far more dangerous to the citizenry than an "infringement" of your antiquated second amendment rights.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: PoopyfaceMcGee on January 25, 2013, 12:47:45 PM
Reducing clip sizes is not smart, as magazines are not complicated and can be relatively easily "home made." So, again it is an issue of telling would-be "good guys" returning fire to be under-manned while someone with bad intentions could easily arm up.

Also, like the other proposals, it's relatively arbitrary and just means school shooters will bring more loaded mags with them. It takes a skilled person about 1 second to drop out an empty and pop in a new one. But I'm sure the hero unarmed Principal would totally tackle the assailant in that time frame.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Tomahawk on January 25, 2013, 12:56:52 PM
How many less rounds does that mean are fired if it takes a second or two to drop and pop a new clip? Add the seconds up and maybe two, three, or more people are able to either escape or manage not to get shot. Seems like these mass shooters are getting these guns and accessories through convenience, and not modifying the clips to hold 100 rounds instead of 30.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: PoopyfaceMcGee on January 25, 2013, 01:00:15 PM
Does it seem that way?

The point can be further extended. If guns are too hard to use, they'll just put a bomb in the school or set it on fire.

People are the problem, and while guns by design are meant for harm, they are largely a red herring in how to keep America safer.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: SunMo on January 25, 2013, 01:03:17 PM
you can't control people...you can control the methods they use to hurt other people. 

red herring, lol
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Tomahawk on January 25, 2013, 01:07:30 PM
Quote from: PoopyfaceMcGee on January 25, 2013, 01:00:15 PM
Does it seem that way?

The point can be further extended. If guns are too hard to use, they'll just put a bomb in the school or set it on fire.

People are the problem, and while guns by design are meant for harm, they are largely a red herring in how to keep America safer.

Excellent point....make it so farging difficult to fire a gun, people have to take an extensive and expensive training class in order to shoot shtein. Also mandate all new guns manufactured must have fingerprint reading technology in order to fire.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: PoopyfaceMcGee on January 25, 2013, 01:16:15 PM
Quote from: SunMo on January 25, 2013, 01:03:17 PM
you can't control people...you can control the methods they use to hurt other people. 

red herring, lol

Look, you just chime in with a brief and semi-witty anti-gun talking point and clearly don't care to broaden yourself, so I'm not going to engage any further.

In the long term, you'll be more successful in life being less of a prick.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: SunMo on January 25, 2013, 01:19:30 PM
zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: ice grillin you on January 25, 2013, 01:31:35 PM
you are talking to an avowed govt hater....black helicopters and shtein....there is no reasoning with people like that
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: PoopyfaceMcGee on January 25, 2013, 02:01:36 PM
Wrong. I am not an anarchist. I believe a strong and efficient Federal government is vital to a civilized America. But the government that employs you has become something else.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: ice grillin you on January 25, 2013, 02:05:31 PM
no you dont...thats your speak because its makes you seem reasonable and "centrist" so then when you drop your right wing idiocy you can point to that as a reason you arent a loon

smart but also transparant and a classic right wing technique

if it was up to you youd choke the life out of government especially most if not all taxes
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: PoopyfaceMcGee on January 25, 2013, 02:07:16 PM
You're absolutely wrong, as you often are.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: ice grillin you on January 25, 2013, 02:11:26 PM
not this time....ive had my eye on you (and many other zealots for a loooooong time)

you are par for the course...almost a protoype
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Rome on January 25, 2013, 02:16:35 PM
We should really try to be nicer to each other.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Tomahawk on January 25, 2013, 02:18:16 PM
lol it's raining gumdrops and lollipops
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: ice grillin you on January 25, 2013, 02:19:24 PM
Quote from: Rome on January 25, 2013, 02:16:35 PM
We should really try to be nicer to each other.

mlk tried that and they killed him
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: MDS on January 25, 2013, 02:41:22 PM
with a gun? but ff's nra buddies told me mlk was pro-gun
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: PoopyfaceMcGee on January 25, 2013, 03:14:35 PM
We're really hippoing it up today, aren't we?
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Munson on January 25, 2013, 04:46:31 PM
Quote from: PoopyfaceMcGee on January 25, 2013, 11:07:48 AM
Be dismissive all you like. The laws I would propose would be much more restrictive and reduce the number of guns in circulation infinitely better than the ones proposed.

You guys aren't really nice people. Maybe work on that.

Yes, they would, but the NRA/right wing would flip a shtein at the types of ideas you and others have proposed here. They'd see it as an even bigger infringement on the 2nd amendment than what's being proposed. That's why it doesn't get done.

Quote from: PoopyfaceMcGee on January 25, 2013, 12:47:45 PM
Reducing clip sizes is not smart, as magazines are not complicated and can be relatively easily "home made." So, again it is an issue of telling would-be "good guys" returning fire to be under-manned while someone with bad intentions could easily arm up.

Also, like the other proposals, it's relatively arbitrary and just means school shooters will bring more loaded mags with them. It takes a skilled person about 1 second to drop out an empty and pop in a new one. But I'm sure the hero unarmed Principal would totally tackle the assailant in that time frame.

Pretty sure the Virginia Tech shooter was taken down because he had to stop to reload.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: PoopyfaceMcGee on January 25, 2013, 04:48:01 PM
How sure? And how many fewer people would have died if his mags had lower capacity?

One example answers. Winning arguments since never.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Munson on January 25, 2013, 04:51:36 PM
Quote from: PoopyfaceMcGee on January 25, 2013, 04:48:01 PM
How sure? And how many fewer people would have died if his mags had lower capacity?

One example answers. Winning arguments since never.

I feel pretty confident in saying that other shooters have also been taken down whilst having to stop to reload.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Munson on January 25, 2013, 04:52:14 PM
Also, saying "a really skilled person can do it in less than a second!" isn't exactly a winning argument either.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: PoopyfaceMcGee on January 25, 2013, 04:57:25 PM
Do you even listen to your own thoughts?

Make more sense.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Munson on January 25, 2013, 05:00:08 PM
I think those two posts are pretty clear and easy to read, Adam.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: PoopyfaceMcGee on January 25, 2013, 05:02:58 PM
I'm sorry I can't do that, Dave.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Munson on January 25, 2013, 05:05:27 PM
(http://www.crankydriver.com/blog/images/Rants/hal-9000-eye.jpg)
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: ice grillin you on January 25, 2013, 09:54:59 PM
Quote from: PoopyfaceMcGee on January 25, 2013, 04:57:25 PM
Do you even listen to your own thoughts?

Make more sense.

as much as i hate your guts even me and you can agree on the fact that white trash munson is one of the dumber human beings on earth
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Munson on January 25, 2013, 10:16:33 PM
And when you're in agreement with IGY, you are a winner
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Dillen on January 25, 2013, 11:15:53 PM
I wish CF was a physical place and the next mass shooting occurred there.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: ice grillin you on January 25, 2013, 11:19:08 PM
Quote from: Dillen on January 25, 2013, 11:15:53 PM
I wish CF was a physical place and the next mass shooting occurred there.

not me
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Sgt PSN on January 26, 2013, 12:02:58 AM
Quote from: Dillen on January 25, 2013, 11:15:53 PM
I wish CF was a physical place and the next mass shooting occurred there.

Ha!
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Munson on January 26, 2013, 01:48:18 AM
Does Fatal-Combat not count?
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: ice grillin you on January 26, 2013, 04:51:28 PM
dook said the gun was unloaded when he checked it earlier in the week and he didnt know who would have loaded it....also this genius  who shot himself with a gun that he didnt think was loaded had ANOTHER loaded gun for sale at the time

GUNS!!

MA!

http://www.desmoinesregister.com/article/20130125/NEWS/130125040/Accidental-shooting-reported-at-Des-Moines-gun-show
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: ice grillin you on January 26, 2013, 04:53:15 PM
south jerz represent



http://www.nj.com/salem/index.ssf/2013/01/man_shot_in_abdomen_in_carneys.html
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: ice grillin you on January 26, 2013, 05:29:57 PM
gun fail i think

http://www.post-gazette.com/stories/local/neighborhoods-east/two-would-be-robbers-wounded-in-penn-hills-home-invastion-672083/
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: ice grillin you on January 26, 2013, 10:41:25 PM
it was either a bicycle or a skunk....i couldnt really tell

GUNS!!

http://newstrib.com/main.asp?SectionID=2&SubSectionID=27&ArticleID=26068
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: ice grillin you on January 26, 2013, 11:09:30 PM
get out of my house...or ill shoot at you and miss....and hit my own son instead!

http://newstrib.com/main.asp?SectionID=2&SubSectionID=27&ArticleID=26068
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: ice grillin you on January 27, 2013, 11:22:33 AM
i love reading about gun accidents....its always "the gun fired" or the "gun went off".....stupid guns
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Munson on January 27, 2013, 11:40:18 AM
Hah...and the same people who's unloaded guns accidentally go off are the same ones saying guns don't kill people, people kill people
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: ice grillin you on January 27, 2013, 01:03:59 PM
ROMEY!

DUCK

http://www.palmbeachpost.com/news/news/local/all-curbs-lifted-on-backyard-gun-shots-in-florida/nT7gK/
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: ice grillin you on January 27, 2013, 01:33:05 PM
responsible gun owner murders microwave

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hu4r456waYY&feature=youtu.be
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Diomedes on January 27, 2013, 01:42:02 PM
Why shouldn't this person face a mandatory five years in prison? 
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: ice grillin you on January 27, 2013, 01:44:45 PM
i dont disagree but youd need your own seperate industrial prison complex just for these dopes

the US needs a madagascar where we can send them all
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Sgt PSN on January 27, 2013, 01:48:16 PM
I thought that was Gitmo.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Diomedes on January 27, 2013, 01:49:11 PM
We have the largest prison capacity of any country in the world.  Of most of them combined, actually.  It's just a matter of who you want to put into them.  Corner boys and potheads or dangerous gun criminals.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: ice grillin you on January 27, 2013, 01:52:52 PM
lol @ "the dangers of celebratory gunfire"

how about the dangers of guns?

GUNS!!!

http://www2.tbo.com/news/south-shore-news/2012/dec/27/4/mother-of-celebratory-gunfire-victim-spreads-aware-ar-592691/
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: ice grillin you on January 27, 2013, 02:11:54 PM
residents had the gall to "complain" about bullets whizzing thru their yard

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/lake/os-lk-stray-bullets-leslie-campione-20130124,0,3720604.story
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Seabiscuit36 on January 27, 2013, 03:43:16 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on January 27, 2013, 01:44:45 PM
i dont disagree but youd need your own seperate industrial prison complex just for these dopes

the US needs a madagascar where we can send them all
why not Austrailia, those Hoydas don't even have guns. 
And here's an idea.  Legalize weed, let anyone locked up for bullshtein possession and distribution charges out, Space found.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: ice grillin you on January 27, 2013, 03:48:19 PM
no one gets locked up for weed anymore...unless you are runnin around with a few pounds....that storyline is way over played these days
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Sgt PSN on January 27, 2013, 03:52:41 PM
Yeah, I also think the sentences are fairly minimal as well. Granted, it still needs to stop but it's not like we have a problem with prisons being overpopulated with pot heads and corner boys. The biggest waste is time/money spent busting and prosecuting them.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Seabiscuit36 on January 28, 2013, 07:40:41 AM
Quote from: ice grillin you on January 27, 2013, 03:48:19 PM
no one gets locked up for weed anymore...unless you are runnin around with a few pounds....that storyline is way over played these days
http://marijuana-arrests.com/nyc-pot-arrest-docs.html
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Diomedes on January 28, 2013, 07:45:36 AM
Quote from: Sgt PSN on January 27, 2013, 03:52:41 PM... it's not like we have a problem with prisons being overpopulated with pot heads and corner boys....

You are mistaken.  These are exactly the people who are filling our prisons. 

"Real Americans" whose kid accidentally shoots herself and white collar thieves walk, corner boys hustling for grandma's grocery money CUFF 'EM.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Tomahawk on January 28, 2013, 08:30:43 AM
Quote from: ice grillin you on January 27, 2013, 03:48:19 PM
no one gets locked up for weed anymore...unless you are runnin around with a few pounds....that storyline is way over played these days

Seabiscuit's link illustrated how marijuana laws are racially enforced in the form of arrests only. This link (http://drugsense.org/blog/drug-policy/marijuana-prisoners) shows 55% of federal inmates are in prison for violating a drug law.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Sgt PSN on January 28, 2013, 08:37:18 AM
Quote from: Diomedes on January 28, 2013, 07:45:36 AM
Quote from: Sgt PSN on January 27, 2013, 03:52:41 PM... it's not like we have a problem with prisons being overpopulated with pot heads and corner boys....

You are mistaken.  These are exactly the people who are filling our prisons. 

"Real Americans" whose kid accidentally shoots herself and white collar thieves walk, corner boys hustling for grandma's grocery money CUFF 'EM.

They may be filling out the prisons but they aren't the bulk of the population. Maybe your "hard drug" dealers or users like coke, heroin, etc, make up a significant portion of the prison pop, but Joe Pothead isn't taking up much space in C block. 

Agree on the white collar criminals and such though.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Diomedes on January 28, 2013, 08:37:33 AM
55% of what, 2 million?

In other words, we don't have to argue this point any longer.  Capacity is not the issue. 
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Tomahawk on January 28, 2013, 08:42:09 AM
2 million is about right (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Incarceration_in_the_United_States), but that includes the county lockup too.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Diomedes on January 28, 2013, 08:47:40 AM
No potheads or cornerboys in there. [/Sassy]
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: rjs246 on January 28, 2013, 08:50:40 AM
Anyone who thinks that the prison population isn't wildly overrepresented by drug and non-violent offenders hasn't spent any time reading up on the topic.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Seabiscuit36 on January 28, 2013, 09:00:52 AM
Quote from: rjs246 on January 28, 2013, 08:50:40 AM
Anyone who thinks that the prison population isn't wildly overrepresented by drug and non-violent offenders hasn't spent any time reading up on the topic.
Why read?  IGY knows.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: ice grillin you on January 28, 2013, 08:02:45 PM
does it EVER happen?....im sure

but by and large people arent going to prison for selling nickel bags of weed....much less it being some epidemic like a lot of people think

Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Diomedes on January 28, 2013, 08:15:36 PM
Get popped for selling dime bags three times and see if you don't do time.  In some places, lots of time.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: ice grillin you on January 29, 2013, 08:58:59 AM
pretty awesome

http://blogs.tcpalm.com/off_the_beat_will_greenlee_blog/2011/05/st-lucie-county-woman-apparently-shoots-rifle-at-target-in-bedroom-closet-and-misses-nails-washing-m.html
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: ice grillin you on January 29, 2013, 10:38:45 AM
shut up you sonless socialist scumbag!!

http://hypervocal.com/news/2013/newtown-victim-father-heckled/
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on January 29, 2013, 11:52:58 AM
Quote from: ice grillin you on January 29, 2013, 10:38:45 AM
shut up you sonless socialist scumbag!!

http://hypervocal.com/news/2013/newtown-victim-father-heckled/

That sickens me.

Each one of those people who heckled that guy deserve to have the shtein beaten out of them. Man or woman.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Sgt PSN on January 29, 2013, 01:01:22 PM
Wow. NRA creeping up on Westboro as most despicable organization.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: ice grillin you on January 29, 2013, 02:49:38 PM
hello 911?...this intruder took me by complete suprise....i gotta go now im gonna shoot him in a few minutes

http://www.katu.com/news/local/Police-Homeowner-shoots-kills-prowler-in-Vancouver-188841621.html?tab=video&c=y
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Diomedes on January 29, 2013, 09:31:13 PM
I'm sure that without a gun, this guy would have found some other way to kill this poor cuban farg.

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2013/01/29/georgia-man-guns-down-immigrant-after-gps-sends-him-to-wrong-driveway/
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on January 29, 2013, 10:57:53 PM
QuoteSchool bus driver shot, 6-year-old taken hostage ..
9:05 PM
A driver of a school bus in Dale County was shot several times, and a 6-year-old student passenger has been taken as a hostage by the suspected shooter near Midland City.

Police report that the incident happened at approximately 3:36 p.m. Tuesday when the suspect demanded the driver to let a student off the bus. When the driver refused, the suspect boarded the bus, shot the driver before taking the child and fleeing the scene.

Law enforcement officials are currently negotiating with the suspect who took the child to an area behind Destiny Church.

We'll continue to follow this story and provide updates as information is made available.

Update:
ABC 33/40 has learned that the bus driver has died from gunshot wounds sustained during the incident.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: General_Failure on January 30, 2013, 10:48:59 AM
Girl who performed at Obama inaugural events slain on South Side (http://my.chicagotribune.com/#section/544/article/p2p-74207742/)
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Tomahawk on January 30, 2013, 11:15:14 AM
Slain is so sensational.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on January 30, 2013, 01:40:10 PM
http://blog.chron.com/txpotomac/2013/01/poll-67-percent-of-texas-republicans-want-to-impeach-obama/

Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on January 30, 2013, 01:46:19 PM
http://www.azcentral.com/community/phoenix/articles/20130130phoenix-multiple-injuries-shooting-abrk.html?nclick_check=1
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: ice grillin you on January 30, 2013, 03:17:52 PM
kid turned into the wrong driveway but dont worry responsible gun killed him

http://nbclatino.com/2013/01/29/georgia-man-shoots-and-kills-young-latino-who-accidentally-pulled-into-his-driveway-police-say/
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Diomedes on January 30, 2013, 05:33:44 PM
^^^^  six posts before this says "hi"
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Sgt PSN on January 30, 2013, 05:36:42 PM
So maybe this thread should be re-named to something a little more fitting.  The 'Every Gun Incident in America' thread, perhaps? 
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Diomedes on January 30, 2013, 05:38:37 PM
Nah, I rather like the RSS feed it's become because it helps to illustrate that what's going on in America is one great big extended mass shooting.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: General_Failure on January 30, 2013, 05:54:32 PM
The Mass of Shootings in the US Thread.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: ice grillin you on January 31, 2013, 08:27:40 AM
Quote from: Diomedes on January 30, 2013, 05:38:37 PM
Nah, I rather like the RSS feed it's become because it helps to illustrate that what's going on in America is one great big extended mass shooting.

especially now during the raging gun control debate and the intergalatic stupidity of the nra and their dickless leader

btwn lindsay graham lapierre and that stupid bitch the hearings yesterday were a god damn travesty
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Diomedes on January 31, 2013, 05:57:16 PM
QuoteYour daily dose of law abiding gun violence.

http://accidentalgunshots.tumblr.com/
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Rome on January 31, 2013, 08:03:18 PM
http://www.google.com/hostednews/afp/article/ALeqM5iyuAXFakTmhjdL3m5W61VjTjqQaA?docId=CNG.b551284ac6589b5a9b0bc67733452b5e.141
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: ice grillin you on February 01, 2013, 08:37:47 AM
http://americablog.com/2013/01/idaho-gun-nut-lawmakers-freak-out-over-gun-nut-in-the-state-capitol-even-though-guns-are-permitted.html
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Sgt PSN on February 01, 2013, 12:30:04 PM
That's awesome.  I'm pretty much at the point where I'm going to jump sides when it comes to carrying permits.  I'm still in favor of people being able to own guns but I'm pretty much against anyone carrying them in public other than law enforcement type people. 

I'm also in favor of holding 2nd Amendment supporters to the standard set in the Bill of Rights. 

QuoteA well regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed.

"well regulated" can basically be broken down into 3 things:

1.  A National Registration database that encompasses all gun sales and registrations (to include background checks, mental health, competancy, etc, etc....bascially all the other shtein that has been said in the no hippo thread)

2.  Required "license renewal."  You own a gun, you need to renew your license every X amount of years just like a driver's license except that you need to continuously demonstrate that you meet the minimum standards for ownership.  Fail any portion of that and your guns are taken until you can prove you are not a liability. 

3.  Higher standards of accountability when your gun is used in a crime or "accidental" injury/death of another person. 

"militia, being necessary to the security of a free state"

Owning enough weapons to arm a small army does not constitute a militia.  You want to own guns, then join an organized, well regulated militia.....aka....the National Guard, or any other state approved militia.  Any militia can receive a state sanctioned "charter" upon application so long as they meet certain criteria.  Personally owned weapons may be transported (safely and securely) to and from militia sanctioned events. 

But yeah, there's absolutely no reason at all for everyday people to be walking around the streets with guns, especially when most have little to no training.  There's a reason why cops and military spend hours and hours in classes that strictly revolve around Deadly Force and Escalation of Force.  So unless the general public is going to be required to receive the same amount of training as cops and soldiers, then they really don't have any business walking around with shotguns and 6 shooters. 
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: ice grillin you on February 01, 2013, 01:03:21 PM
QuoteYou want to own guns, then join an organized, well regulated militia.....aka....the National Guard, or any other state approved militia.  Any militia can receive a state sanctioned "charter" upon application so long as they meet certain criteria.     

problem here is that when the 2nd amendment was written it was to protect ones state from a foreign govt....now its to protect ones self from their own government....

thus theres no way they are going to join a govt regulated militia because the govt is the reason they are stock piling military weapons in the first place
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: ice grillin you on February 02, 2013, 05:39:31 PM
be proud gun nuts...

http://www.thestar.com/opinion/editorialopinion/2013/01/22/mallick_why_newtown_victim_noah_pozner_had_an_open_coffin.html
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Seabiscuit36 on February 02, 2013, 07:51:39 PM
Wait. Bullets tear flesh and bone apart?  Now I'm anti guns
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: ice grillin you on February 02, 2013, 07:59:25 PM
Quote from: Seabiscuit36 on February 02, 2013, 07:51:39 PM
Now I'm anti guns

and pro canned goods
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: ice grillin you on February 02, 2013, 08:59:28 PM
protecting the family:

http://www.wral.com/news/local/story/10654311/
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on February 11, 2013, 12:01:03 PM
http://www.philly.com/philly/news/breaking/20130211_Shots_fired_in_Wilmington_courthouse__injuries_reported.html

ho-hum...another public mass shooting.

Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: ice grillin you on February 11, 2013, 12:07:44 PM
i think we need armed guards in courthouses.....oh wait
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Munson on February 11, 2013, 03:28:36 PM
Not even 10 minutes from where I live. And apparently I'm hearing someone else brought a gun into the middle school I attended (and now sometimes sub at) today. Haven't been able to find anything confirming that though.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Tomahawk on February 11, 2013, 03:41:49 PM
You don't know what you're hearing?
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Munson on February 11, 2013, 03:49:00 PM
You don't know what you're hearing!
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: MDS on February 14, 2013, 02:32:36 AM
oscar pistroius...the south afican one legged runner...shot his girlfriend dead because he mistook her for an intruder

GUNS!!
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: hbionic on February 14, 2013, 03:23:57 AM
An intruder. I buy that. Sure. Will the police?
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: PhillyPhanInDC on February 14, 2013, 08:08:28 AM
Quote from: MDS on February 14, 2013, 02:32:36 AM
oscar pistroius...the south afican one legged runner...shot his girlfriend dead because he mistook her for an intruder

GUNS!!

Charged with murder.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: ice grillin you on February 14, 2013, 08:25:59 AM
if anyone should have a gun to protect themselves it would be a legless person....im ok with this
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: General_Failure on February 14, 2013, 10:03:48 AM
Quote from: ice grillin you on February 14, 2013, 08:25:59 AM
if anyone should have a gun to protect themselves it would be a legless person....im ok with this

Really, how many years have people pointed out how unsuccessful one legged men are at ass kicking?
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Zanshin on February 14, 2013, 11:23:55 AM
Wasn't in the US, though. So, that's refreshing.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Tomahawk on February 14, 2013, 11:42:36 AM
Preposterous! Gun crime happens in the US only.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Seabiscuit36 on February 14, 2013, 12:56:10 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on February 14, 2013, 08:25:59 AM
if anyone should have a gun to protect themselves it would be a legless person....im ok with this
anyone living in south africa should have a gun
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: General_Failure on February 14, 2013, 12:58:08 PM
In fact, he should have a sawn off shotgun in his prosthetic leg.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: MDS on February 14, 2013, 01:27:56 PM
there was a history of domestic abuse in that house

good thing he had a gun handy
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: QB Eagles on February 14, 2013, 06:08:53 PM
(http://cbsseattle.files.wordpress.com/2013/02/oscar-pistorius.jpg)
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Sgt PSN on February 14, 2013, 06:20:59 PM
Is that really from his website or is this just something the internet made up?
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: QB Eagles on February 14, 2013, 06:48:10 PM
From his website. Which took it down.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: ice grillin you on February 16, 2013, 10:35:21 PM
two armed cats come to shoot a 3rd dood
dood takes off running
in the chase one bad guy accidentally shoots the other

all brought to you by GUNS

http://www.wsbtv.com/news/news/local/2-critically-injured-during-dispute/nWQ2Q/

Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: ice grillin you on February 17, 2013, 11:25:09 AM
great long read to go with your sunday morning joe mimosa screwdriver


or forty

http://bigstory.ap.org/article/police-families-cope-cop-killers-aftermath

(https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/487948_10200703907220522_1070360225_n.jpg)





Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: MDS on February 17, 2013, 03:05:53 PM
you still use internet explorer? OF COURSE YOU DO
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: ice grillin you on February 17, 2013, 04:26:10 PM
i think thats funny but i dont know why
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Rome on February 17, 2013, 05:15:41 PM
If you used Firefox or Chrome you would.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: ice grillin you on February 17, 2013, 05:19:33 PM
i think those are internet avenues......of which i have no problem accessing

Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: PhillyPhanInDC on February 17, 2013, 05:36:07 PM
Looks like you got the Dell working...
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: ice grillin you on February 17, 2013, 05:37:51 PM
Quote from: PhillyPhanInDC on February 17, 2013, 05:36:07 PM
Looks like you got the Dell working...

nope....i looked into getting the discs you talked about but you have to give way more information than i am willing to do to get them....i need a downlow fix
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: MDS on February 17, 2013, 05:43:45 PM
IE is a horrible browser...chrome is vastly superior

the only other person i know who uses IE is my ex boss--an obsese life long texan who worships jesus, nascar, soccer and fast food. so besides terrible eating habits, the only other parallel is that youre both very ignorant and stubborn. i think i found something here.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Sgt PSN on February 17, 2013, 05:46:47 PM
Quote from: PhillyPhanInDC on February 17, 2013, 05:36:07 PM
Looks like you got the Dell working...

Looks like an HP in the pic to me. 
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: ice grillin you on February 17, 2013, 05:53:31 PM
Quote from: Sgt PSN on February 17, 2013, 05:46:47 PM
Quote from: PhillyPhanInDC on February 17, 2013, 05:36:07 PM
Looks like you got the Dell working...

Looks like an HP in the pic to me.

thats my working computer

the dell is the one im trying to get up and running
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: SD on February 17, 2013, 06:06:41 PM
Quote from: MDS on February 17, 2013, 05:43:45 PM
IE is a horrible browser...chrome is vastly superior

the only other person i know who uses IE is my ex boss--an obsese life long texan who worships jesus, nascar, soccer and fast food. so besides terrible eating habits, the only other parallel is that youre both very ignorant and stubborn. i think i found something here.

I switched to Chrome a year or so ago and it's decent. Was using Mozilla but I kept getting these annoying add ons.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Sgt PSN on February 17, 2013, 06:53:34 PM
I've had Chrome for probably 3 or 4 years.  It's awesome and my life is infinitely better because of it. 
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Rome on February 17, 2013, 07:51:21 PM
I use Firefox because Google is the Devil.  I mean, I use Google every day of my life, but still... THE DEVIL.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Geowhizzer on February 17, 2013, 08:09:12 PM
I use IE - mostly because I just don't give a farg.  Use it at school (no choice, can't download anything else), and haven't bothered to download Chrome or Firefox because, well, I just don't give a farg.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: hbionic on February 17, 2013, 11:33:21 PM
I use chrome but it sucks as much ass as the other ones. All of them freeze on me. They all suck. farg browsers.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: General_Failure on February 18, 2013, 12:14:40 AM
If they're all freezing, the problem is you and I'm going to assume the 7,000 little programs launching on startup you've installed or let get installed by other things.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Tomahawk on February 18, 2013, 10:04:51 AM
Download CCleaner to clear out all browser caches, locate and fix registry errors, and easily see/modify which programs are opening on startup.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: SD on February 19, 2013, 09:46:19 PM
This is my old apartment complex when I lived with baby's momma:
http://www.nbcnews.com/id/50863986/ns/local_news-philadelphia_pa/t/gunman-apartment-fires-shots-police-cops/#.USQ3RqWfjop
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Diomedes on February 19, 2013, 09:51:47 PM
We know it's not you because the shooter let the woman go unharmed.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: SD on February 19, 2013, 09:53:04 PM
What an idiot, you always keep a hostage for negotiating leverage
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Diomedes on February 19, 2013, 09:55:48 PM
Not to mention raping.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: SD on February 19, 2013, 10:33:01 PM
wrong guy

An elderly person was killed during the crossfire. Pretty sure she was killed from a police bullet. Dude gave himself up. It started out as a domestic dispute.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: ice grillin you on February 20, 2013, 11:19:59 AM
trained cops arent very good with guns therefore i think we should make sure as many untrained people in the country have them (just stay out of the room when they are being cleaned)


http://www.salon.com/2013/02/16/lapds_indefensible_dorner_pursuit/
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: ice grillin you on February 23, 2013, 06:30:39 PM
i didnt think it was loaded....bro

http://www.timesfreepress.com/news/2013/feb/22/man-charged-after-accidentally-shooting-brother-bu/


protecting the family
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: ice grillin you on February 23, 2013, 09:30:45 PM
(knock knock)
whos there
aw nevermind BAM! BAM! BAM!

http://www.philly.com/philly/news/20130223_Off-duty_Camden_officer_shoots_autistic_man__caretaker.html
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Sgt PSN on February 23, 2013, 11:56:10 PM
You're doing it wrong.

Knock knock
Who's there?
Amy Fisher
Amy Fish...
BANG!!
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: ice grillin you on February 26, 2013, 01:19:53 PM
taco 'responsible gun owner fail' bell

http://www.ktvb.com/news/regional/192029721.html
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: General_Failure on April 18, 2013, 11:51:21 PM
MIT Says There's a Shooter on the Loose and an Officer Down on Campus (http://www.theatlanticwire.com/national/2013/04/theres-shooter-loose-and-officer-down-mit/64379/)
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on April 19, 2013, 12:53:02 AM
Apparently two middle eastern males have carjacked a Mercedes and are involved in a chase close by.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on April 19, 2013, 01:01:37 AM
Now reports of explosions and grenades being set off
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Rome on April 19, 2013, 01:26:03 AM
are these clowns connected to the marathon bombings?
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: MDS on April 19, 2013, 02:38:44 AM
theres another suspect at the hospital from before who is now dead

this shtein is cray
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: hbionic on April 19, 2013, 02:56:17 AM
This almost feels like the Joker is behind all of this.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Munson on April 19, 2013, 03:10:46 AM
They said two suspect names on the BPD scanner, one of them was in fact the missing student from Brown University, which is the one they're currently still trying to find
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: hbionic on April 19, 2013, 04:05:46 AM
For the bombing or the shooting?
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Don Ho on April 19, 2013, 04:29:03 AM
Good, one useless excuse for life down, one to go.

Damn, that last picture released of the two ballsacks standing next to each other at the marathon was amazingly clear.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: MDS on April 19, 2013, 04:32:12 AM
the other one is in a building or something...hopefully they get him alive
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: phattymatty on April 19, 2013, 05:00:18 AM
this shtein is crazy. apparenly this is white hat guy.

Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: SD on April 19, 2013, 05:06:17 AM
Is that an Eagles symbol on his hat?
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: phattymatty on April 19, 2013, 05:25:56 AM
looks like it. but i just saw a new picture of the guy though and looks nothing like this kid.

yeah nm thats not the kid...don't trust the internet. apparently it's two chechnyan brothers.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: ice grillin you on April 19, 2013, 08:10:27 AM
you gotta give this kid massive props for still being on the lam...absolutely amazing job
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: rjs246 on April 19, 2013, 08:40:05 AM
I'm actually far more impressed with law enforcement's ability to track these two down so quickly. I was assuming it would be weeks or months before they turned up if they were ever located.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: ice grillin you on April 19, 2013, 08:43:07 AM
the minute pictures went up they were done

i think its absoluetly incredible that this 19 year old kid has somehow not just survived multiple car chases and shootouts but still hasnt been caught by the god knows how many different law enforecement agencies and personnel that are after him

its like the action movie where you say "no way would he have gotten away there" except this is real life and he did
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: phattymatty on April 19, 2013, 08:44:11 AM
well they live in cambridge and their pictures were everywhere and they stuck around. and they decided to rob a 7/11 and kill a cop.

probably weren't too hard to find.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: phattymatty on April 19, 2013, 08:46:03 AM
i can't stop watching and listening...been up since 4. should think about going to work soon.

http://tunein.com/radio/Boston-Police-Fire-and-EMS-Scanner-s146109/

Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: ice grillin you on April 19, 2013, 08:48:40 AM
http://www1.whdh.com/video/7newslive
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: SD on April 19, 2013, 08:56:13 AM
Quote from: ice grillin you on April 19, 2013, 08:43:07 AM
the minute pictures went up they were done

i think its absoluetly incredible that this 19 year old kid has somehow not just survived multiple car chases and shootouts but still hasnt been caught by the god knows how many different law enforecement agencies and personnel that are after him

its like the action movie where you say "no way would he have gotten away there" except this is real life and he did


It's like the last episode I ever watched of the Following when their house is surrounded by cops/FBI/swat and they still somehow manage to get away.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: phattymatty on April 19, 2013, 08:59:20 AM
a few minutes ago some cop on the scanner named kevin was like "hey guys i'm out for the weekend." other dudes were like "have a good weekend kevin."

so funny.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: ice grillin you on April 19, 2013, 09:01:09 AM
http://www.motherjones.com/mojo/2013/04/boston-bombing-suspect-posted-video-al-qaeda-prophecy-youtube
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: rjs246 on April 19, 2013, 09:03:54 AM
Quote from: phattymatty on April 19, 2013, 08:44:11 AM
well they live in cambridge and their pictures were everywhere and they stuck around. and they decided to rob a 7/11 and kill a cop.

probably weren't too hard to find.

Yes. I wasn't really counting on historic levels of careless stupidity on their part.

Aren't angry religious teenagers just the best?
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Seabiscuit36 on April 19, 2013, 10:00:04 AM
Sounds more like the older brother was a "Loser"(Uncles words), and that they think he brought his younger brother into the fold.  The 19year old was a normal hs student according to classmates.  Talk about a study of the impacts of a childhood with no morals about terrorism. 
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: hbionic on April 19, 2013, 11:18:39 AM
Quote from: rjs246 on April 19, 2013, 08:40:05 AM
I'm actually far more impressed with law enforcement's ability to track these two down so quickly. I was assuming it would be weeks or months before they turned up if they were ever located.

Felt the same way here. Thought we may never know and these guys would have got away scott free. Scary.

Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: ice grillin you on April 19, 2013, 11:31:03 AM
Quote from: hbionic on April 19, 2013, 11:18:39 AM
Quote from: rjs246 on April 19, 2013, 08:40:05 AM
I'm actually far more impressed with law enforcement's ability to track these two down so quickly. I was assuming it would be weeks or months before they turned up if they were ever located.

Felt the same way here. Thought we may never know and these guys would have got away scott free. Scary.

no chance we werent going to find out who they were and quickly

catching them was another story....but more than likely in this day and age you arent walking into the middle of a major us city dropping a couple bombs and not getting caught in a relatively short period of time

the fact that they were domestic increased the chances ten fold
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: ice grillin you on April 19, 2013, 12:42:33 PM
bombing suspect Dzhokhar Tsarnaev, 19, became an American Citizen on Sept. 11, 2012
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: phattymatty on April 19, 2013, 01:16:30 PM
this is all horrible obviously but this 19 year old escaping like 2000 cops and FBI agents is amazing shtein.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Seabiscuit36 on April 19, 2013, 02:00:26 PM
Sounds like they think he was shot or injured based on blood.  Wonder if he's just laying somewhere under a porch.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: MDS on April 19, 2013, 02:10:04 PM
this whole rooskie family needs a reality show

the aunt and the uncle holy hell. gold jerry gold
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Seabiscuit36 on April 19, 2013, 02:15:54 PM
they really are awsome.  Both uncles
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Rome on April 19, 2013, 02:18:22 PM
I thought the uncle's comment about the kid having a bright future if he turned himself in was hilarious.

Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: ice grillin you on April 19, 2013, 02:19:09 PM
the father said something like "just turn yourself in and come back to russia"
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: General_Failure on April 19, 2013, 03:25:26 PM
What does Arkansas State Rep Nate Bell think about this?

(http://media.tumblr.com/ad9fd859883fbb5d7471a33971d952ca/tumblr_inline_mlinm6g3qW1qawfnh.png)
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Seabiscuit36 on April 19, 2013, 03:55:27 PM
I laughed
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: ice grillin you on April 19, 2013, 04:41:55 PM
Quote from: General_Failure on April 19, 2013, 03:25:26 PM
What does Arkansas State Rep Nate Bell think about this?

(http://media.tumblr.com/ad9fd859883fbb5d7471a33971d952ca/tumblr_inline_mlinm6g3qW1qawfnh.png)

redneck troglodyte already apologized...its makes me sad that any of these people get elected but they actually make up a majority in the house...i hate this country
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Seabiscuit36 on April 19, 2013, 04:51:05 PM
How many points would this kid have on GTA right now? 
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Munson on April 19, 2013, 04:54:32 PM
He got to a 6 star wanted level pretty fast, without using a cheat code
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Diomedes on April 19, 2013, 05:06:08 PM
If he's not dead in a hole somewhere, and causes further mayhem, he will become one of the most notorious sonsofbitches in generations.  Chris Dorner who?
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Sgt PSN on April 19, 2013, 06:08:58 PM
Haha...I was thinking the same thing earlier. This kid is making Dorner look like amateur hour.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: phattymatty on April 19, 2013, 06:16:30 PM
ha wow these two just happened to be going to the 7-11 while someone else was robbing it last night.

what zesty luck.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Diomedes on April 19, 2013, 06:22:47 PM
It's amazing to think they had just bombed the marathon and they're going out and about showing their faces.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Seabiscuit36 on April 19, 2013, 06:40:42 PM
Quote from: Diomedes on April 19, 2013, 06:22:47 PM
It's amazing to think they had just bombed the marathon and they're going out and about showing their faces.
Maybe the mother was right
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Munson on April 19, 2013, 07:08:29 PM
Shots fired, and now a source is telling a local Fox affiliate that a "suspect is down"

Apparently, FBI went to search a boat that had blood on it in somebody's back yard, and shots rang out
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on April 19, 2013, 07:08:35 PM
Stay in ban lifted.

Immediately after gunshot and year gas lobbed into a boat on a trailer.

Take him alive!!
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: ice grillin you on April 19, 2013, 07:30:06 PM
yeah i want him alive so bad but im betting he shot himself
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Geowhizzer on April 19, 2013, 07:34:04 PM
My guess will be that he's strapped with some kind of explosive and will try to take as many with him as he can.

I think the chances to get him alive are probably slim. 
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Munson on April 19, 2013, 07:35:21 PM
They're saying he's still alive right now....
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: ice grillin you on April 19, 2013, 07:49:09 PM
holy shtein that cat is dead after that barrage
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on April 19, 2013, 07:58:31 PM
Keep him alive to zip the conspiracy theorists up. I'm sick of every event being turned into one.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: General_Failure on April 19, 2013, 08:02:43 PM
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on April 19, 2013, 07:58:31 PM
Keep him alive to zip the conspiracy theorists up. I'm sick of every event being turned into one.

Look at you, thinking conspiracy nuts will stop being nuts because of facts.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: reese125 on April 19, 2013, 08:16:49 PM
ha-just walked in and i come to a football website for the latest breaking news.

gotta love it. nice work

Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Diomedes on April 19, 2013, 08:22:16 PM
this kid isn't going to survive
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: rjs246 on April 19, 2013, 08:24:59 PM
Check out this crazy shtein. And donate.

http://www.politico.com/story/2013/04/injured-man-who-helped-id-boston-suspects-is-uninsured-90358.html
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: reese125 on April 19, 2013, 08:27:51 PM
Quote from: Diomedes on April 19, 2013, 08:22:16 PM
this kid isn't going to survive

im going the opposite from the reports. normal kid, popular, lots of friends, drug in by his brother--i say hes petrified to kill himself.

they want his ass alive in the worst way
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: ice grillin you on April 19, 2013, 08:30:00 PM
theyve blasted like a hundred rounds into the boat and threw flash bombs that caused it to catch fire....dood is RIP
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: SD on April 19, 2013, 08:32:17 PM
Quote from: reese125 on April 19, 2013, 08:16:49 PM
ha-just walked in and i come to a football website for the latest breaking news.

gotta love it. nice work
[/quote

I did the same thing...you get a better summary of events.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: reese125 on April 19, 2013, 08:33:03 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on April 19, 2013, 08:30:00 PM
theyve blasted like a hundred rounds into the boat and threw flash bombs that caused it to catch fire....dood is RIP

oh shtein--didnt know that
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: ice grillin you on April 19, 2013, 08:37:53 PM
now they are saying the cops have asked him to come out with his hands up...so amazingly he seems to be alive.....maybe all those rounds werent fired directly into the boat or something
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: ice grillin you on April 19, 2013, 08:47:47 PM
wow....they got em
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Sgt PSN on April 19, 2013, 08:50:33 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on April 19, 2013, 08:47:47 PM
wow....they got em

No way it's actually him. The real dude is already on a plane to Hawaai.  Total cover up by Obama looking out for his Muslim brothers.

Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: SD on April 19, 2013, 08:50:40 PM
suspect #1

https://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/547115_10200984928215586_1551623960_n.jpg
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: ice grillin you on April 19, 2013, 08:54:51 PM
pete williams just said one law enforcement agent told him thats its "absolutely unbelievable" that hes alive

i hope that doesnt mean hes not gonna make it
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Sgt PSN on April 19, 2013, 09:04:51 PM
Quote from: SD on April 19, 2013, 08:50:40 PM
suspect #1

https://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/547115_10200984928215586_1551623960_n.jpg

Minor flesh wound. Total hoyda for dying.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: reese125 on April 19, 2013, 09:22:05 PM
i dont care if little dude was hiding in a row boat or not---these agents are farging ridiculously smart

my thought was he stole a car or something after his brother was shot and dipped out out in the middle of the night or he duck taped some poor elderly chick and was hiding out. the fact they knew he was in the perimeter the whole time regardless of time spent all day is unreal
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Diomedes on April 19, 2013, 09:25:48 PM
Quote from: reese125 on April 19, 2013, 09:22:05 PMthe fact they knew he was in the perimeter the whole time regardless of time spent all day is unreal

only the best crooks are smarter than real cops
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: SD on April 19, 2013, 09:29:20 PM
Longest Boston Marathon in history
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: hbionic on April 19, 2013, 09:42:38 PM
Simply an amazing job by law enforcement.


Ok...someone bring me up to date...so they knew he was in the area all along?
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: SD on April 19, 2013, 10:05:01 PM
arrest photo
http://i.imgur.com/hrrR7EU.jpg
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on April 21, 2013, 07:12:03 PM
http://www.barstoolsports.com/boston/super-page/lets-pray-this-motherfarger-lives/

spell out the f*cker in the link and its apparently a pic of old boy in the hosp
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: hbionic on April 22, 2013, 02:30:35 PM
He's awake an communicating in writing right now, right?
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: General_Failure on April 25, 2013, 02:36:07 PM
Student wrongly tied to Boston bombings found dead (http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/2013/04/25/boston-bombing-social-media-student-brown-university-reddit/2112309/)

QuoteA body pulled from the water off Indian Point Park in Rhode Island has been identified as the Brown University student mistakenly linked by amateur sleuths on a social media site to the Boston bombings.

Health Department spokeswoman Dara Chadwick said Thursday that the body of Sunil Tripathi was identified through dental records.

It was not immediately clear when Tripathi, who was last seen March 15, died. The cause of death has also not been determined.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: ice grillin you on April 25, 2013, 02:41:18 PM
credit to usa today for noting that it was a few morons on the internet who said he was the bomber

i saw a couple articles on his death this morning and in either the headline or the byline it said "man wrongly identified as boston bomber...."....as if he was on the fbi 10 most wanted list much less ever officially identified as anything having to do with the boston attack....so annoying
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Munson on April 25, 2013, 02:50:06 PM
No one officially admitted it, but I was listening to the police scanner during the initial outbreak of craziness last week and someone on there definitely said Sunil's name and said one of the suspects was him.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Diomedes on April 25, 2013, 05:15:10 PM
They say all kinds of crap on police channels...can't hold them to something like that.

Watch...they'll figure out that the kid was dead before the boston bombing occurred.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: ice grillin you on April 26, 2013, 10:28:22 AM
boston carjack victims story

http://www.bostonglobe.com/metro/2013/04/25/carjack-victim-recounts-his-harrowing-night/FX6CAnypP1NbrMuPFb6zTM/story.html?s_campaign=sm_tw
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on May 02, 2013, 03:11:34 PM
http://www.khou.com/news/local/Shots-reportedly-fired-at-Bush-Intercontinental-Airport-205835961.html

Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: phattymatty on May 02, 2013, 03:20:04 PM
i've thought about shooting myself at that airport many times. the worst and it's not even close.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Chameleon on May 02, 2013, 04:09:35 PM
I don't always bring a AK-47 to an airport, but when I do, I shoot it in the air, injure no one, then kill myself with a handgun.

Seriously people, don't you see the problem with the guns. The guns are making people do outrageous things. If you take away the guns. You are just going to force bombs to be the problem. Bombs are all innocent just minding their own business and you guys are like farg you bombs. Your going to do it. Bombs are like I don't wanna.

Seriously guys guns are the problem. This has nothing to do with humans. We are gods creation. We are perfect. Let's keep being perfect you guys. In the eyes of GOD. :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :boom :boom :boom :boom
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: rjs246 on May 02, 2013, 04:11:13 PM
stalker? stillupfront? Is that you? How nice that you stayed away for so long. Please keep doing that.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Chameleon on May 02, 2013, 04:31:00 PM
Quote from: rjs246 on May 02, 2013, 04:11:13 PM
stalker? stillupfront? Is that you? How nice that you stayed away for so long. Please keep doing that.

You have no idea who I am. I shall come and go as I please. #instaban
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: General_Failure on May 02, 2013, 05:40:31 PM
I don't think Twitter hash tags work here, but that's okay because they don't really do much on Twitter either.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Chameleon on May 02, 2013, 05:43:12 PM
pro tip: I don't even have twitter.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: General_Failure on May 02, 2013, 05:44:59 PM
That's not a pro tip, that's an uninteresting fact. You're not doing so well at this today.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Chameleon on May 02, 2013, 05:55:41 PM
Quote from: General_Failure on May 02, 2013, 05:44:59 PM
That's not a pro tip, that's an uninteresting fact. You're not doing so well at this today.

You got me there...., but you are not completely correct. It is actually an uninteresting fact in a pro-tip wrapper.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Chameleon on May 02, 2013, 05:59:20 PM
Quote from: Chameleon on May 02, 2013, 04:09:35 PM
I don't always bring a AK-47 to an airport, but when I do, I shoot it in the air, injure no one, then kill myself with a handgun.

Seriously people, don't you see the problem with the guns. The guns are making people do outrageous things. If you take away the guns. You are just going to force bombs to be the problem. Bombs are all innocent just minding their own business and you guys are like farg you bombs. Your going to do it. Bombs are like I don't wanna.

Seriously guys guns are the problem. This has nothing to do with humans. We are gods creation. We are perfect. Let's keep being perfect you guys. In the eyes of GOD. :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :boom :boom :boom :boom

Let's get this thread back on line. Pro tip: make sure to look at the grain, adjust accordingly.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on May 02, 2013, 06:55:51 PM
Just the tip?
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on May 04, 2013, 02:34:58 PM
http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2013/05/04/lapierre-how-many-bostonians-wish-they-had-a-gun-two-weeks-ago/

That corksucker LaPierre at it again
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: General_Failure on May 04, 2013, 02:47:05 PM
I too wonder how many of them wished they had guns while the police were in their neighborhoods in riot gear, nervous as hell, looking for a killer, and not very relaxed about seeing guns or hearing gunshots.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: ice grillin you on May 04, 2013, 03:19:44 PM
so everyone go out and buy a gun on the off chance you live in a neighborhood where a terrorist is going to be on the run from the fbi and police?

over 1000 people died from accidental gun deaths in the us last year....since 9/11 less than 30 americans have died from terrorism in the united states

i farging hate the nra with a passion
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Sgt PSN on May 04, 2013, 03:23:31 PM
Don't bring a gun to a bomb fight.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Diomedes on May 04, 2013, 03:45:51 PM
Why doesn't the NRA advocate civilian possession of fully automatic machine guns and RPGs? 

Because they are a bunch of second-amendment-hating Hoydas.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: ice grillin you on May 04, 2013, 03:48:30 PM
Quote from: Diomedes on May 04, 2013, 03:45:51 PM
Why doesn't the NRA advocate civilian possession of fully automatic machine guns and RPGs? 

they should also be against background checks on terrorists
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on May 08, 2013, 12:07:29 AM
http://mobile.chron.com/chron/db_312284/contentdetail.htm?contentguid=gZ9NNtJX

Just another kid "accidentally" shooting another kid.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: ice grillin you on May 08, 2013, 07:19:15 AM
protecting the family
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: ice grillin you on May 09, 2013, 11:15:56 AM
(http://mjcdn.motherjones.com/preset_51/child-gun-deaths-01_0.png)
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on May 12, 2013, 04:47:22 PM
At least a dozen people shot at at a Mother's Day parade in New Orleans.

Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on May 12, 2013, 05:34:25 PM
https://vine.co/v/b0dVuFXIZaO

Brief video as the shooting started in NO.

Guns!!

Lets hear the NRA's response to this one....

"I bet those spectators wished they were armed with ar-15's so they could've returned fire!"
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Seabiscuit36 on May 12, 2013, 06:54:11 PM
Chances those guns were bought on the legitimate market... Slim.  Morons with guns. 
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on May 27, 2013, 07:09:55 PM
http://bigstory.ap.org/article/2-dead-5-injured-after-central-texas-shootings

Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Diomedes on May 27, 2013, 09:13:42 PM
I must have missed that story, too busy following all the mass stabbings going on.  It's a crazy world.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: General_Failure on June 07, 2013, 03:59:26 PM
Three shot, suspect detained at Santa Monica College (http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-ln-3-shot-suspect-detained-at-santa-monica-college-20130607,0,4254650.story)

And this is probably totally unrelated, but President Obama In Santa Monica For Luncheon Fundraiser (http://losangeles.cbslocal.com/2013/06/07/president-obama-to-make-brief-visit-to-santa-monica-for-luncheon-fundraiser/).
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Tomahawk on June 08, 2013, 04:54:01 PM
Probably not unrelated at all.

(http://i.imgur.com/mX6AH.gif)
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Rome on July 05, 2013, 09:57:31 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-sAGGoPidEY&feature=player_embedded

LOL
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on July 10, 2013, 10:05:54 AM
http://gawker.com/texas-man-arrested-for-making-gun-gestures-in-a-crowd-729949045?utm_campaign=socialflow_gawker_twitter&utm_source=gawker_twitter&utm_medium=socialflow
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: General_Failure on July 10, 2013, 12:00:02 PM
Good.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Seabiscuit36 on July 10, 2013, 01:25:11 PM
All of the people in the crowd had imaginary kevlar protecting them. 
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: General_Failure on July 10, 2013, 01:35:38 PM
Imaginary kevlar isn't going to stop imaginary headshots, dummy.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on September 16, 2013, 11:39:28 AM
Ho-hum...another mass shooting in a public place today.

Merica!

http://www.cnn.com/2013/09/16/us/dc-navy-yard-gunshots/index.html?hpt=hp_t1
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Sgt PSN on September 16, 2013, 11:39:56 AM
Looks like some dude capped 4 sailors in DC and injured another 8 or so. 
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: MDS on September 16, 2013, 03:05:18 PM
12 dead

so this is mass shooting no 4 in the past year alone? did i miss one?
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: General_Failure on September 16, 2013, 04:24:03 PM
Probably. Who has time to check up on all these shootings to make sure?
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on September 16, 2013, 07:51:53 PM
http://www.nationaljournal.com/politics/conspiracy-theorists-already-suspect-navy-yard-shooting-is-a-false-flag-20130916?mrefid=mostViewed
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: MDS on September 17, 2013, 01:35:11 AM
it was a black guy, not a white guy who did it

therefore.....GO
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on September 20, 2013, 12:51:09 AM
http://www.cnn.com/2013/09/20/justice/chicago-shooting/index.html

Chicago aka Beirut
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: MDS on September 20, 2013, 02:45:27 AM
more stillupfronts shot in the hood....WHO CARES

muslims be planning terror attacks. maybe. at some point. in some place. involving someone. RIP CIVIL LIBERTIES. HELLO 900 BILLION DOLLAR WARS.

america
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: ice grillin you on September 20, 2013, 10:41:34 AM
all the concern now is with molly because its killing white chicks
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Diomedes on September 20, 2013, 05:46:02 PM
If you bring your three year old to a basketball court in a gang contested park late at night and he gets shot...can't say I'm surprised, or that I much care for your sadness.  Bad luck for the kid to be born to you, and to be in that park, for sure.  Otherwise...yeah.  No reason to have the kid there at all.  Just terrible decision making.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: MDS on September 20, 2013, 06:09:15 PM
could say the same thing about your parents decision to have you
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: ice grillin you on September 20, 2013, 06:18:36 PM
blaming victims is such an american thing to do
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Rome on September 20, 2013, 06:48:07 PM
Dio wasn't blaming the victims.  He was blaming the scum doing the shooting and the dipshteins who brought their kid into a situation that was rife with peril.   Settle down, girls.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: MDS on September 20, 2013, 07:37:36 PM
dio is 10000 percent the guy who wouldnt testify if he saw a gang murder

not because he aint no snitch but because he be a bitch
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Sgt PSN on September 20, 2013, 08:09:33 PM
Quote from: Rome on September 20, 2013, 06:48:07 PM
Dio wasn't blaming the victims.  He was blaming the scum doing the shooting and the dipshteins who brought their kid into a situation that was rife with peril.   Settle down, girls.

I thought this was pretty obvious.  Though I don't think Dio was really blaming the shooter nearly as much as the idiot parent(s) who thought it was a good idea to bring a 3 yr old kid into a known gang zone after dark. 
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Diomedes on September 20, 2013, 10:14:29 PM
A three year old should be in bed at that hour.

The hippos would cheer a white kid getting beat down for being in the wrong place, so of course they'd disparage me for pointing out that bad parenting put the kid in harm's way as much as anything else.  Bad luck for the kid...bad decisions for the mother/grandmother/aunt or whoever is "raising" the kid.

I can sympathize with bad luck.  Bad decisions, not so much. 
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Diomedes on September 20, 2013, 10:18:16 PM
Quote from: MDS on September 20, 2013, 07:37:36 PMhe be a bitch

I'm sure you'll repeat that to me if we ever meet.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: rjs246 on September 20, 2013, 11:20:40 PM
I've met MDS and I can say with 100% certainty that he would never say that shtein to anyone who would even momentarily consider punching him in the face. He was amicable enough, I guess, but at the end of the day in the real world this kind of statement will get you decked. Rightfully. In the face. Or maybe neck.

Also Dio is so obviously right about this that it's farging stupid to even discuss. It has nothing to do with blaming the victim. Poor decisions beget poor outcomes. Taking your three year old to an outdoor basketball game at that hour in a crime ridden area of a crime ridden city is, at best, poor decision making and at worst negligent. Obviously negligent. Why are we even talking about this? Why would any parent even want their kid to be awake that late? Put the little jackass to bed and have a beer, you retards.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Eagaholic on September 21, 2013, 02:59:23 AM
Quote from: Diomedes on September 20, 2013, 10:18:16 PM
Quote from: MDS on September 20, 2013, 07:37:36 PMhe be a bitch

I'm sure you'll repeat that to me if we ever meet.

LOL at mds calling anyone a bitch. Farg you, you just made me piss my couch.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: MDS on September 21, 2013, 04:30:02 AM
dio brings out the worst in me...hipsters are like persians to me. i cant deal with them

but yeah im a total Hoyda
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: General_Failure on September 21, 2013, 05:40:01 AM
Let's be honest, there's not much to you besides the worst.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: ice grillin you on September 21, 2013, 06:34:16 AM
maybe im different but when i hear news of a three year old being shot in the face my first thought isnt to disparage the mother and scream to the world about how much i dont feel sadness for her...but if thats your schtick then carry on
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: ice grillin you on October 03, 2013, 02:47:55 PM
capitol on lockdown after shots let off
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Seabiscuit36 on October 03, 2013, 02:49:57 PM
Merica!
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: ice grillin you on October 03, 2013, 02:54:32 PM
apparently started with someone trying to break into the white house
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: MDS on October 03, 2013, 02:59:32 PM
GUNS!
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: ice grillin you on October 03, 2013, 03:02:19 PM
a female suspect reportedly dead
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: SunMo on October 03, 2013, 03:02:50 PM
[sd]good[/sd]
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: ice grillin you on October 03, 2013, 03:05:25 PM
Quote from: MDS on October 03, 2013, 02:59:32 PM
GUNS!

too soon

lets get back to making sure a quarter of the country doesn't get health insurance
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: MDS on October 03, 2013, 03:06:41 PM
some woman tried to ram the white house gate with her car or something

this country is full of wonderful people
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: SunMo on October 03, 2013, 03:07:15 PM
oh forgot to mention this.  someone at my work (elder white gun lover) tried to tell me that gun control doesn't work after the navy yard shooting because the area where the shooting occurred was a gun free zone. 
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: ice grillin you on October 03, 2013, 03:08:17 PM
Quote from: SunMo on October 03, 2013, 03:07:15 PM
tried to tell me that gun control doesn't work after the navy yard shooting because the area where the shooting occurred was a gun free zone.

what gun control?
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: ice grillin you on October 03, 2013, 03:10:38 PM
how did this women ram a white house security check point and still pull off a 12 block car chase.....youd think she would have been lit up right then and there
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Seabiscuit36 on October 03, 2013, 03:19:02 PM
She had a kid with her.  Shocker was that the kid was not lilly white.   She tried to ram one of the 6 checkpoints before the whitehouse, that failed, then she rolled out to the capitol.  Got out, apparently started firing.  Weird. 
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on October 03, 2013, 06:09:35 PM
Quote from: SunMo on October 03, 2013, 03:07:15 PM
oh forgot to mention this.  someone at my work (elder white gun lover) tried to tell me that gun control doesn't work after the navy yard shooting because the area where the shooting occurred was a gun free zone.

Oh lol I forgot to mention this when that happened but I have a buddy who has turned into a real Tea Party nutzo. I mean like quoting the Constitution all the time and egging me on in political discussions via text. Why he's gone this route I don't know.

Anyways he said the same thing. And I started twisting him up about the NRA and LaPierre (whom he'd blow and swallow)and he really lost it.

So now all I need to do is mention Obamacare and guns and it's an hour or more of entertainment for me.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Rome on October 03, 2013, 06:13:02 PM
I torment the people I know who are tea party zealots.    I've lost more than a few friends these last years because of how brutally awful they've become.  Fundy fruitcakes.   Wholly ignorant too.  Real Fox News zombies.  It's sad, really.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Diomedes on October 03, 2013, 06:27:53 PM
The guys I work with are almost all to a man rabid conservatives.  Paranoid, Obama hating, under/un-educated.

Plumber told me on Wednesday, while talking about the staff he has at a restaurant he owns, that he's got some good folk, except for one waitress who is a "stillupfront lover."  Pretty typical.  They are loving the shut down.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on October 03, 2013, 11:53:38 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MCu80iDid_Q

copper hits the barriers that come up to block the streets...NSFW language if you open this at work
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: MDS on October 04, 2013, 02:46:49 AM
WHAT DE farg OH ME GOOD
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: hbionic on October 04, 2013, 03:39:58 AM
I bet either heart attack or texting while driving.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: SD on October 21, 2013, 11:49:15 AM
http://www.cnn.com/2013/10/21/justice/nevada-middle-school-shooting/index.html?sr=fb102113nevshooting1145p
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on November 01, 2013, 10:22:32 PM
So the nutjob who shot up LAX earlier had anti-government paraphernalia on him and sent suicide texts to his family. He is from Pennsville, NJ...

Guns
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: ice grillin you on November 01, 2013, 10:25:17 PM
holy shtein my boy clint is from the ville....how old was dook?
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Munson on November 01, 2013, 10:28:47 PM
Graduated from a private school here in Delaware in 2008. Most of my friends from that school graduated in 2008, haven't really talked to them about it yet though.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on November 01, 2013, 10:29:35 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on November 01, 2013, 10:25:17 PM
holy shtein my boy clint is from the ville....how old was dook?

23

last name Ciancia
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on November 04, 2013, 10:17:20 PM
Well stop me if you've heard this before...

apparently there's a gunman inside a mall in up in Paramus Jersey
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on November 04, 2013, 10:22:32 PM
QuoteJim Gardner ‏@Jim_Gardner 13s

Report: gunman in Paramus, New Jersey mall wearing full body armor and wielding AK47.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Sgt PSN on November 04, 2013, 10:24:11 PM
People will do just about anything to be 1st in line at Best Buy on Black Friday. 
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: MDS on November 04, 2013, 10:32:09 PM
this country has a problem
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on November 04, 2013, 10:39:55 PM
no we don't! I can already hear the narratives coming from that dipshtein LaPierre and the teabaggers.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Seabiscuit36 on November 05, 2013, 07:18:05 AM
he really wanted the new COD
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: ice grillin you on November 05, 2013, 07:50:13 AM
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on November 04, 2013, 10:39:55 PM
no we don't! I can already hear the narratives coming from that dipshtein LaPierre and the teabaggers.

the problem is that there is no jump off point with the right to even start a discussion on gun control....where do you begin when one side legitimately thinks the govt. is coming for everyones guns and that theres fema camps out there

basically we are farged
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Zanshin on November 05, 2013, 08:08:11 AM
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on November 04, 2013, 10:22:32 PM
QuoteJim Gardner ‏@Jim_Gardner 13s

Report: gunman in Paramus, New Jersey mall wearing full body armor and wielding AK47.

Literally two minutes from my house. Initially, they thought the guy escaped, so we were instructed to be on the lookout and lock the doors. Turns out he offed himself in the mall. No one was hurt, which had to be purposeful. Probably was looking for death by cop. He ended up doing it himself. 20 year old with a long drug history.

Still have helicopters over my house. As much as they claim to hate it, you know the news stations LOVE this shtein.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Seabiscuit36 on November 05, 2013, 08:56:43 AM
http://www.trueactivist.com/fema-camp-has-begun-homeless-first/ 

Dont fight it IGY, they're open for business LOL. 

nothing is worse than the die by cops Hoydas.  So what this comes down to is how did a mentally unstable 20 year old get ahold of an AK and body armor, espeically in NJ?  You get multi year sentences for having hollowpoints. 
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Zanshin on November 05, 2013, 09:03:45 AM
It was a simple rifle made up to look like an AK47, and he stole it from his brother. And it was a motorcycle helmet and black clothes.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Zanshin on November 05, 2013, 09:08:01 AM
And that's another annoying thing. In the haste to get the scoop, news organizations are constantly putting out bad information, particularly at the beginning of these stories. There's no way that I can lend credence to anything anyone says as the shtein is happening. It's like a giant game of telephone.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on November 10, 2013, 04:38:18 PM
Some dumbfarg starts a twitter hashtag for her 18th birthday party here in Houston. Complete with a DJ coming into town to play the party.

2 dead and 19 injured.

Someone let off "celebratory shots" while inside which was met with retaliatory gun fire and then two people unloading on just about everyone in their way.

Guns.

BTW a guns and ammo mag editor apparently was FIRED because he chose to run a column about the discussion of fun control and safety. Meat heads wrote into the mag and their decision was to fire the guy.

America.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: ice grillin you on December 03, 2013, 08:56:18 AM
http://www.newrepublic.com/article/115790/gun-control-moms-face-misogynistic-violent-online-harassment
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: General_Failure on December 08, 2013, 11:39:47 AM
New Mexico cop fired for shooting at minivan full of kids (http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2013/12/07/new-mexico-cop-fired-for-shooting-at-minivan-full-of-kids/)
QuoteOn October 28, an officer stopped African-American driver Oriana Ferrell for speeding, saying that she was going 71 miles per hour in a 55 zone. During the traffic stop, Ferrell — who was taking the kids on a family vacation from Tennessee — panicked and drove away, fearing for the safety of her five children from the white officer.

The officer pulled Ferrell over again and attempted to physically wrest her from behind the wheel. The confrontation escalated when Ferrell's 14-year-old son got into a tussle with the arresting officer, who attempted to use a taser against the boy.

Texas campus cop empties gun on unarmed student: 'Oh, you're gonna shoot me?' (http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2013/12/08/texas-campus-cop-empties-gun-on-unarmed-student-oh-youre-gonna-shoot-me/)
Quote"I didn't hear him say anything like, 'Get down on your hands and knees,' you know? I didn't hear him say anything. He just started shooting," the witness said. "He emptied the gun on him.... Boom, boom, boom. Six shots — five or six."

Young newlyweds celebrate at strip club after fulfilling dream of 'killing someone together' (http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2013/12/08/young-newlyweds-celebrate-at-strip-club-after-fulfilling-dream-of-killing-someone-together/)
QuoteEventually, Elytte Barbour confessed that when Miranda picked LaFerrara up, he was hiding in the back seat of their SUV. On his wife's signal, he wrapped a cord around LaFerrara's neck and strangled him while Miranda stabbed him over 20 times. The couple then dumped the body, cleaned the car and then drove to the strip club.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Sgt PSN on December 08, 2013, 07:44:19 PM
I work in Sunbury, the town that the last killing happened in. Well, the killing happened in the next town over, but the body was dumped a few blocks from my office.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: hbionic on December 09, 2013, 03:37:40 PM
If you do a search for the victim and look at his picture...you can tell he wasn't a small dude. God takes people in mysterious ways.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: ice grillin you on December 16, 2013, 12:03:01 AM
kicked off the debate team.....shoot some motherfargers
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on December 16, 2013, 02:20:18 AM
http://www.nytimes.com/2013/12/15/magazine/inside-the-power-of-the-nra.html?pagewanted=5&_r=2&smid=tw-nytimes&pagewanted=all&

Inside the Power of the NRA
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: General_Failure on January 09, 2014, 08:50:08 PM
'We called for help, and they killed my son,' North Carolina man says (http://www.cnn.com/2014/01/07/justice/north-carolina-teen-killed/)

Quote"Everything was going good," Mark Wilsey said, according to WWAY. "Then this fat cop from Southport walks in the room, walks around the corner, says, 'We don't have time for this. Tase that kid now. Let's get him out of here.' "

The stepfather said Vidal tried to run but was struck with two Taser charges and fell backward. He said the first two officers to respond got on top of Vidal.

WECT attributed a slightly different accounting of events to Mark Wilsey. In that retelling, the stepfather said officers had pinned Vidal to the ground after he had been tased and one of the officers said, "We don't have time for this" and shot his stepson.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: General_Failure on January 24, 2014, 04:17:47 PM
1 injured in South Carolina State University shooting (http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2014/01/24/south-carolina-school-shooting/4831069/)

QuoteThe shooting is the second one this week on a college campus. On Tuesday, Andrew Boldt, 21, of West Bend, Wis., died after being stabbed and shot in a basement electrical engineering classroom at Purdue University in West Lafayette, Ind.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: ice grillin you on January 25, 2014, 12:52:22 PM
mall ten minutes from my house has been all shot up
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Diomedes on January 25, 2014, 12:56:29 PM
Amazon.com:  you won't get shot shopping with us!
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Sgt PSN on January 25, 2014, 12:58:31 PM
Quote from: Diomedes on January 25, 2014, 12:56:29 PM
Amazon.com:  you won't get shot shopping with us!

Unless they arm their delivery drones.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: ice grillin you on January 25, 2014, 01:01:11 PM
this mall employee on cnn just said "you know a lot of cops in maryland have itchy trigger fingers"  lol
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Diomedes on January 25, 2014, 01:03:49 PM
We have thieves who follow the mailman and delivery trucks, stealing packages off porches.  A drone that sticks with the package, gunning down anyone who comes too close, would be great.   Still better: A fleet of clean-up drones that sweep in to remove the bloody mess from my stoop would be appreciated too.

Ah, city living.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: ice grillin you on January 25, 2014, 01:06:10 PM
MOM is going to pounce on this.....i suggest if you are a gunowner and live in maryland that you immediately move
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Chameleon on January 25, 2014, 01:18:39 PM
Breaking news. Guns kill people. People are completely innocent and have nothing to do with the problem. The problem lies with the guns. Let's make it so only the cops have guns. Then we can start blaming the problem on bombs.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Seabiscuit36 on January 25, 2014, 01:21:18 PM
Ban all shotguns!

And you're right IGY, MOM is gonna go hard on this.  He already got the sb281 thru, I wouldn't be surprised if he tried an outright ban. 

Wonder what the deal was, i know the columbia mall has been going downhill for years.  Curious to see if its whitey gone crazy, or a planned altercation. 
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Diomedes on January 25, 2014, 01:23:15 PM
Yeah, we should legalize automatic machine guns, RPGs, landmines, etc.   It's people who kill, not the weapons they use.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Chameleon on January 25, 2014, 01:26:11 PM
Quote from: Diomedes on January 25, 2014, 01:23:15 PM
Yeah, we should legalize automatic machine guns, RPGs, landmines, etc.   It's people who kill, not the weapons they use.

In "government" we trust.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Diomedes on January 25, 2014, 01:42:35 PM
I trust the government way, way more than I do gun toting citizens, yes. 

Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Munson on January 25, 2014, 02:59:10 PM
Yeah I don't know why I'm supposed to trust random Americans with guns....have you seen random Americans?

That said, I don't think an outright ban would work. And I think state laws are useless when you can just drive 15 minutes away over to the next state and get a gun
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Sgt PSN on January 25, 2014, 03:03:33 PM
Quote from: Munson on January 25, 2014, 02:59:10 PM
And I think state laws are useless when you can just drive 15 minutes away over to the next state and get a gun

You obviously aren't teaching geography.

Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: hbionic on January 25, 2014, 03:11:18 PM
Who or what is MOM?

(Cue in T-Hawk and Sarge)
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: General_Failure on January 25, 2014, 03:15:43 PM
Fifteen minutes in the northeast, if you account for hyperbole, but still. People do it for fireworks and cheaper cigarettes, they'd do it for guns.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Sgt PSN on January 25, 2014, 03:16:02 PM
Mothers of 'Merica?
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Diomedes on January 25, 2014, 03:31:49 PM
Quote from: hbionic on January 25, 2014, 03:11:18 PMWho or what is MOM?

Martin O'Malley (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Martin_O'Malley), Governor of Maryland.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Diomedes on January 25, 2014, 03:32:17 PM
aka Carcetti in The Wire
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: SD on January 25, 2014, 04:47:15 PM
Ever notice during these shootings the shooter is never shot by a licensed gun owner?
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Seabiscuit36 on January 25, 2014, 04:59:00 PM
Shotgun, sounds like a lovers quarrel.  Female/Male/Male Shooter all dead.  GUNS! 
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: ice grillin you on January 25, 2014, 05:41:16 PM
Quote from: SD on January 25, 2014, 04:47:15 PM
Ever notice during these shootings the shooter is never shot by a licensed gun owner?

thats cause licensed owners are too busy shooting themselves their family or a neighbor
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Sgt PSN on January 25, 2014, 05:56:23 PM
Quote from: SD on January 25, 2014, 04:47:15 PM
Ever notice during these shootings the shooter is never shot by a licensed gun owner?

Except for that retired cop who shot a couple in a movie theater because they were texting....during the previews. (http://www.cnn.com/2014/01/13/justice/florida-movie-theater-shooting/)
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Rome on January 25, 2014, 06:03:09 PM
There are millions of gun owners that never fire their weapons in anger much less injure or kill anyone.

Settle down, freaks.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: ice grillin you on January 25, 2014, 06:36:45 PM
Quote from: Rome on January 25, 2014, 06:03:09 PM
There are millions of gun owners that never fire their weapons in anger much less injure or kill anyone.

phew!

Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Seabiscuit36 on January 25, 2014, 08:42:53 PM
The fact that this is national news is funny, of course at first it seemed like it was a terrible situation.  Whats come out of it was a lovers triangle, and the guy shot his ex and new boyfriend, albeit a mall.  You're talking a regular shotgun, so not even the 30 round guns that Omally was so afraid of, yet theyre never was a case of them being used. 

It's probably a 870 Remington or some standard mossberg. 
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: ice grillin you on January 25, 2014, 08:44:40 PM
if zumiez employees were armed this would have never happened
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on January 25, 2014, 08:50:42 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on January 25, 2014, 08:44:40 PM
if zumiez employees were armed this would have never happened


(http://assets.nydailynews.com/polopoly_fs/1.1225236!/img/httpImage/image.jpg_gen/derivatives/landscape_635/article-lapierre-1221.jpg)
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on March 21, 2014, 04:40:57 PM
http://www.khou.com/news/local/One-person-killed-when-shots-fired-at-Sugar-Land-business-251439821.html

This happened at one of my customer's shop....crazy
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on April 02, 2014, 06:43:19 PM
Another shooting at Ft Hood

One dead and several injuries...shooter still at large

Jeez
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: LBIggle on April 02, 2014, 08:32:44 PM
that's unfortunate.  i was hoping to see eagles FO pop up.  hopefully they get the guy.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Diomedes on April 02, 2014, 09:28:38 PM
Malls schools and military bases...great places to get shot.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: hbionic on April 02, 2014, 10:01:06 PM
...and if you can't get shot there...go to a movie theater.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on April 02, 2014, 11:21:43 PM
The shooter was 34yrs old and had apparently been treated for PTSD and other issues. CNN just said he had a traumatic brain injury in Iraq...but they said self diagnosed?

.45 cal handgun that was not registered on base as it should be

Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Don Ho on April 03, 2014, 03:27:16 AM
Quote from: LBIggle on April 02, 2014, 08:32:44 PM
that's unfortunate.  i was hoping to see eagles FO Pappelbon pop up.  hopefully they get the guy.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on April 13, 2014, 05:31:36 PM
Guy walks into two Jewish places in KC and kills a couple of people. As he's being arrested he gives the ol heil hitler

Guns
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: ice grillin you on April 13, 2014, 07:10:50 PM
kansas
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: General_Failure on April 13, 2014, 07:16:23 PM
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on April 13, 2014, 05:31:36 PM
Guy walks into two Jewish places in KC and kills a couple of people. As he's being arrested he gives the ol heil hitler

Guns

It wasn't a hate crime. He was just upset/He had an un-diagnosed mental illness/He played the GTA video games/He was bullied by a rabbi?
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: ice grillin you on April 14, 2014, 08:34:58 AM
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on April 13, 2014, 05:31:36 PM
Guy walks into two Jewish places in KC and kills a couple of people. As he's being arrested he gives the ol heil hitler

Guns


http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2014/04/13/frazier-glenn-miller-longtime-anti-semite-arrested-in-kansas-jewish-community-center-murders/
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: ice grillin you on April 15, 2014, 11:20:06 AM
gunzzzzzzz

https://mtc.cdn.vine.co/r/videos/294D10A5A51067682148183621632_2ab81ddf9be.0.1.11628941711312769136.mp4?versionId=pyd1UTw1kB0DSjbMBOQ4x8nbc7uRxrSp
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Seabiscuit36 on April 15, 2014, 11:52:59 AM
Over under on that gun being legally purchased? 

Also, what did i miss about this Nevada shtein. Seems to have gotten the "Patriots" riled up.  From what i've gleaned thru, the dude was using govt land, and was told no longer.  He riled up a mob of guys with guns who stood there sucking eachothers cocks?
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Seabiscuit36 on April 15, 2014, 12:06:14 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZkJ_ZiX_Tek
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: ice grillin you on April 15, 2014, 12:12:48 PM
it wasnt so much that he was told to stop using the land....but he is required to abide by the federal permit system and pay fees for using the land to graze cattle....something hes not done since 1993....in fact he doesnt recognize the federal govt as even existing and claims that the land is owned by his family
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: ice grillin you on April 19, 2014, 11:20:28 PM
gun fail

http://news.hjnews.com/news/year-old-who-was-reportedly-shot-on-accident-dies-at/article_254c2648-c7cd-11e3-90bf-0019bb2963f4.html
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: MDS on April 20, 2014, 01:25:09 AM
this was at an art gallery in georgetown, tx. a little north of austin. suburb where im spending the weekend.

america.

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BlnLWhgCYAA6pPx.jpg)
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on April 20, 2014, 01:34:46 AM
I'm surprised it's old glory in there and not a confederate flag
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: MDS on April 20, 2014, 03:14:44 AM
theres a gun store across the street from the high school

not kidding, not hyperbolizing. theres a gun store across the street from the high school.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Seabiscuit36 on April 21, 2014, 10:05:25 AM
My grandfather had the same .45 and holster, it's a WWII thing MDS. 
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: ice grillin you on April 21, 2014, 10:39:07 AM
down there it might be a mexican american war thing
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: MDS on April 21, 2014, 12:49:41 PM
Quote from: Seabiscuit36 on April 21, 2014, 10:05:25 AM
My grandfather had the same .45 and holster, it's a WWII thing MDS.

guns are awesome!
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Seabiscuit36 on April 21, 2014, 07:18:34 PM
that gun liberated your people
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: General_Failure on April 21, 2014, 07:36:42 PM
Moses didn't have a .45, dummy.

(http://2012patriot.files.wordpress.com/2011/07/mosesarms_dees1.jpg)
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Diomedes on April 21, 2014, 08:15:05 PM
Quote from: Seabiscuit36 on April 21, 2014, 07:18:34 PM
that gun liberated your people

Russia didn't use the .45 in WWII
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: MDS on April 22, 2014, 02:14:24 AM
my people were in the us by the time hitler had that little misunderstanding
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: General_Failure on April 22, 2014, 01:11:04 PM
Oh, sorry, I thought this was the 'Ass-Shootings in the US' (http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/florida-man-shoots-buttocks) thread.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: shorebird on April 22, 2014, 05:08:15 PM
Quote from: Seabiscuit36 on April 21, 2014, 10:05:25 AM
My grandfather had the same .45 and holster, it's a WWII thing MDS. 


Standard Calvery issue?

(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/55/1st_Cavalry_Division_-_Shoulder_Sleeve_Insignia.svg/240px-1st_Cavalry_Division_-_Shoulder_Sleeve_Insignia.svg.png)
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on April 29, 2014, 08:02:45 PM
Ho hum another day another workplace shooting.

19yr at FedEx in ATL blasts six people with a shotgun and offed himself
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Sgt PSN on April 29, 2014, 10:46:47 PM
He was upset because the post office said he wasn't qualified to work for them. Ironically, now he is.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: General_Failure on May 01, 2014, 07:03:03 PM
Long Beach Police Shooting of Unarmed Man Captured on Video (http://www.laweekly.com/informer/2014/04/29/long-beach-police-shooting-of-unarmed-man-captured-on-video)

QuoteThe shooting by police of an unarmed man in Long Beach over the weekend was captured in a shocking video (on the next page). The man is hit with gunfire multiple times as he descends stairs to a beach, as nearby restaurant patrons watch in horror. The cops' actions might have been a case of mistaking friendly fire for a shootout.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Diomedes on May 01, 2014, 09:17:26 PM
If trained cops are accidentally shooting at each other, why the hell would you arm teachers? 
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Geowhizzer on May 01, 2014, 09:44:01 PM
Quote from: Diomedes on May 01, 2014, 09:17:26 PM
If trained cops are accidentally shooting at each other, why the hell would you arm teachers?

I know a lot of teachers.  Arming teachers is a bad, bad, bad idea.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on May 01, 2014, 11:03:55 PM
Quote from: Diomedes on May 01, 2014, 09:17:26 PM
If trained cops are accidentally shooting at each other, why the hell would you arm teachers?

Great question. I'd love to hear the super gun nuts answer that one.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Sgt PSN on May 02, 2014, 12:36:39 AM
Obviously they'll say yes. These are people who don't think rationally. 
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Seabiscuit36 on May 02, 2014, 09:17:40 AM
Anyone who thinks it's a good idea to arm teachers doesn't know what it's like teaching.  That's like playing with fire.  Hell my wife's school is designed like a prison.  Concrete walls, have to get buzzed in, and immediately see the office which is right at the entrance.  Reminds me of OZ on hbo, and yet they still get people who make their way thru to the class occasionally, always parents who don't feel like following protocol.  Guns aren't the answer in schools, protocols and competent employees should be a bigger focus. 

Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on May 02, 2014, 10:08:27 AM
So Adibisi teaches Algebra there?
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Rome on May 02, 2014, 12:23:55 PM
African Studies
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Sgt PSN on May 02, 2014, 12:46:09 PM
Wouldn't it just be easier to say he's the x-country coach?
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: General_Failure on May 02, 2014, 01:10:39 PM
Just as long as you keep him out of the cafeteria.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Seabiscuit36 on May 02, 2014, 03:59:34 PM
Glass Shards for everyone! 
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on May 24, 2014, 11:15:06 AM
Seven dead in a mass drive by shooting at UCSB in California

And apparently this is the nice young fella responsible

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=sbv5Vpa-B-0
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: SD on May 24, 2014, 11:18:41 AM
Was just coming to post that, what a whiney little Hoyda. The user who upoloaded the video on Break goes by the name Avon_Barksdale.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on May 24, 2014, 11:20:33 AM
Yeah really...awwww poor little baby is still a virgin. Well then don't go make an effort to get laid, no no, by all means just go shoot people because you're a complete failure and can't get your dick wet
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: ice grillin you on May 24, 2014, 11:24:45 AM
he definitely has a gender disorder

he wants to be a women and is furious at the thought
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Sgt PSN on May 24, 2014, 11:37:10 AM
Not saying this is fake,  but that whole video seemed forced and not real. His stupid evil laugh makes me think he's watched Austin Powers to many times. Definite drama queen. Either way,  good riddance.   Too bad a bunch of hot college ass had to go with him. RIP,  sluts.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: SD on May 24, 2014, 11:48:07 AM
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on May 24, 2014, 11:20:33 AM
Yeah really...awwww poor little baby is still a virgin. Well then don't go make an effort to get laid, no no, by all means just go shoot people because you're a complete failure and can't get your dick wet

Exactly, Todd is in the same boat but you didn't see him shooting up girls at Temple
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on May 24, 2014, 12:00:58 PM
Haha I don't think they have temples in south Texas....or do they?!
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Sgt PSN on May 24, 2014, 12:40:03 PM
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on May 24, 2014, 12:00:58 PM
Haha I don't think they have temples in south Texas....or do they?!

They do, but they're called high school football stadiums.

Also,  SD was talking about the college,  not the Jewce Bar.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: General_Failure on May 24, 2014, 01:18:40 PM
Besides, how could he not get laid at a Texan Synagoge? By not calling himself Dr Orodenker?
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on May 24, 2014, 02:16:53 PM
Hahaha that's funny

And lol at Jewce Bar
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: MDS on May 24, 2014, 02:18:35 PM
what
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on May 24, 2014, 02:25:32 PM
http://abc13.com/news/7-killed-in-planned-mass-murder-near-uc-santa-barbara/76199/

The little weirdo was the son of the hunger games assistant director
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on May 24, 2014, 06:52:30 PM
Apparently the parents are saying they called police on him a month ago and warned them
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on May 24, 2014, 07:13:04 PM
http://gawker.com/father-of-ucsb-shooting-victim-when-will-this-insanit-1581191996?utm_campaign=socialflow_gawker_twitter&utm_source=gawker_twitter&utm_medium=socialflow

Wayne LaPierre and all the dopes who think like him can suck it

QuoteWhy did Chris die? Chris died because of craven, irresponsible politicians and the NRA. They talk about gun rights. What about Chris's right to live?
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: MDS on May 24, 2014, 08:45:52 PM
the only thing that can stop a bad guy with a gun is a good guy with a gun
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on May 25, 2014, 11:56:11 AM
Well the lunatics and nutjobs are out in full force on this. Facebook never fails to come through! Just scroll through and see the right wingers getting their shots in by saying "but but but he killed three people with a knife too! Where is the outrage there huh!?"
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: General_Failure on May 26, 2014, 07:38:38 PM
Hours after that guy shot women who wouldn't sleep with him, a totally different guy does the same farging thing. (http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2014/05/26/police-search-for-california-man-who-shot-at-3-women-who-refused-to-have-sex-with-him/) Mostly the same thing, since he missed.

You know what? It may be time to take some guns away and give out some castrations.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on May 26, 2014, 07:49:37 PM
The NRA disapproves of your suggestion, pal
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: General_Failure on May 26, 2014, 07:53:10 PM
Just tell them the Black Panthers are involved (http://www.theroot.com/articles/politics/2013/01/black_panthers_and_gun_control_the_nras_flip_flop.html).
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on May 26, 2014, 08:25:38 PM
Sorry to have to fight and ruin your black panther party
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on June 05, 2014, 08:58:40 PM
Yet another one. University in Seattle had some dude blasting people with a shotgun

Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on June 08, 2014, 05:44:23 PM
http://www.cnn.com/2014/06/08/justice/las-vegas-shooting/index.html

Two cops and one person in Walmart.

Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on June 08, 2014, 06:04:09 PM
From a Vegas website...

QuoteI came here to post this. I am in Vegas right now and spoke to some people about it and am now listening to the news.

It was 2 shooters, a white male and female, they shot the police officers and screamed "the revolution has begun" or "this is the start of the revolution". They also took the officers guns and ammunition from them.

Then they ran into the Walmart with the guns and yelled at everyone to get out. One of the shoppers had a gun and he tried to shoot them but they shot him first and killed him. So they killed 3 people total. Then they went into the back and committed suicide together.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: ice grillin you on June 08, 2014, 06:05:09 PM
donate to the SPLC
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: MDS on June 08, 2014, 06:37:06 PM
so thats 3 good guys with guns who didnt stop bad guys with guns

well i guess thats it then. no other possible defense than that.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on June 08, 2014, 08:33:43 PM
What I'm surprised hasn't happened yet is the "good guy(s)" stepping in and being horrible shots and offing innocent bystanders.

Or those stupid open carry fargs spraying a populated area with a clip in the name of their second amendment rights and stopping the bad guys
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on June 10, 2014, 11:38:55 AM
http://www.kgw.com/home/Breaking-Reports-of-gunfire-at-Reynolds-High-School-262541971.html
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on June 10, 2014, 12:48:54 PM
http://www.cnn.com/2013/09/19/us/u-s-school-violence-fast-facts/
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on October 24, 2014, 02:35:00 PM
Looks like a high school shooting is going down up by Seattle
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Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on October 24, 2014, 02:41:00 PM
QuoteCBS News ‏@CBSNews 3s4 seconds ago

JUST IN: Providence Regional Hospital ER nurse confirms three patients have arrived with gunshot wounds, 1 in the head; 4th patient expected
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Post by: ice grillin you on October 24, 2014, 04:19:19 PM
couple cases of ebola....lets stop flights and shut down entire countries

a thousand school shootings....lets do nothing about guns
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Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on October 24, 2014, 05:18:52 PM
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/seattle-washington-area-school-shooting-at-marysville-pilchuck-high-school/
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Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on January 06, 2015, 06:25:05 PM
Another army base shooting

Ft Bliss in El Paso

No word on how many shot yet
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: General_Failure on February 11, 2015, 10:35:45 AM
Man Charged in Deaths of 3 Muslim Students Near University of North Carolina (http://www.nytimes.com/2015/02/12/us/shooting-deaths-university-of-north-carolina-murder-charges.html?_r=1)

QuotePolice officials in Chapel Hill, N.C., said on Wednesday that a man had been arrested in the shooting deaths of three Muslim students at a condominium complex near the University of North Carolina campus.

The Chapel Hill police said that Craig Stephen Hicks, 46, had been charged with three counts of first-degree murder. He is being held at the Durham County Jail. "Our preliminary investigation indicates that the crime was motivated by an ongoing neighbor dispute over parking," the police said in a statement
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Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on February 11, 2015, 12:59:01 PM
Probably should be in the hate thread...damn mooslims impeding on a good white christian's parking spot!!
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: General_Failure on March 09, 2015, 11:37:36 PM
Protesters March In Madison After Unarmed Teen Shot By Officer (http://www.buzzfeed.com/jimdalrympleii/19-year-old-man-shot-and-killed-by-police-in-wisconsin-spark#.vcWbnzaO8)

Yeah, it's buzzfeed, I know. I didn't want to look for a better link.
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Post by: Eagaholic on March 10, 2015, 12:36:06 AM
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on February 11, 2015, 12:59:01 PM
Probably should be in the hate thread...damn mooslims impeding on a good white christian's parking spot!!
Parking spot? I thought they got around by magic carpets.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on March 18, 2015, 02:00:46 PM
Seven people shot at a grocery store in Cali last night

Five people shot in Mesa Az this afternoon

Gunzzzzzz

Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on March 18, 2015, 05:44:02 PM
https://twitter.com/pzfeed/status/578310313143103488

Not shocked he's the suspect
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: General_Failure on April 07, 2015, 09:37:00 PM
South Carolina police officer charged with murder after shooting man during traffic stop (http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-nation/wp/2015/04/07/south-carolina-police-officer-will-be-charged-with-murder-after-shooting/?tid=s)

QuoteThe decision to charge the officer, Michael Thomas Slager, came after graphic video footage emerged depicting Slager firing a volley of bullets into the back of Walter Scott, who was running away.

Officers rarely face criminal charges after shooting people, a fact that has played into nationwide protests over the past year over how the police use deadly force. Yet this case took a swift, unusual turn after a video shot by a bystander provided authorities with a decisive narrative that differed from Slager's account.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: ice grillin you on April 07, 2015, 09:39:26 PM
The video of that is unreal
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Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on April 07, 2015, 09:55:35 PM
Isn't that the second SC cop to be indicted? The other one was the dude who unloaded on the guy for reaching into his car for his wallet and the officer missed him with every single shot?
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on April 07, 2015, 10:07:27 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on April 07, 2015, 09:39:26 PM
The video of that is unreal

Holy shtein! I just watched it.

Thank god that was videoed otherwise dude gets away with it. I always cringe when I hear PIO's make the press statement that includes "in fear of his life" as if that makes it a-ok to unload almost a whole clip.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Diomedes on April 08, 2015, 07:08:48 AM
'In fear of your life' makes it okay to shoot anyone in Florida.
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Post by: Geowhizzer on April 08, 2015, 07:14:40 AM
Quote from: Diomedes on April 08, 2015, 07:08:48 AM
'In fear of your life' makes it okay to shoot anyone in Florida.

Pretty much.  Unless you're an African-American woman firing warning shots (http://www.cbsnews.com/news/fla-mom-gets-20-years-for-firing-warning-shots/).  Then you get 20 years. (later thrown out and reduced to time served - 3 years - in a plea deal.)
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Diomedes on April 08, 2015, 07:53:38 AM
Oh, I'm sorry, you're right.  I thought it went without saying:

All laws in America, and especially in the old Slave states, apply differently (if at all) to black folk.

p.s.  Tomorrow is a great day in history.  150 years since the Union defeated the slavers.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: phillycrew on April 08, 2015, 12:06:17 PM
Quote from: General_Failure on April 07, 2015, 09:37:00 PM
South Carolina police officer charged with murder after shooting man during traffic stop (http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-nation/wp/2015/04/07/south-carolina-police-officer-will-be-charged-with-murder-after-shooting/?tid=s)

QuoteThe decision to charge the officer, Michael Thomas Slager, came after graphic video footage emerged depicting Slager firing a volley of bullets into the back of Walter Scott, who was running away.

Officers rarely face criminal charges after shooting people, a fact that has played into nationwide protests over the past year over how the police use deadly force. Yet this case took a swift, unusual turn after a video shot by a bystander provided authorities with a decisive narrative that differed from Slager's account.
All cops and their cars should be required to have cameras.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on April 08, 2015, 12:35:48 PM
Standing ovation to GoFundMe for rejecting a fundraiser for people who tried to start a defense fund for that sick farg SoCar cop.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: General_Failure on April 08, 2015, 05:01:32 PM
Quote from: phillycrew on April 08, 2015, 12:06:17 PM
Quote from: General_Failure on April 07, 2015, 09:37:00 PM
South Carolina police officer charged with murder after shooting man during traffic stop (http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-nation/wp/2015/04/07/south-carolina-police-officer-will-be-charged-with-murder-after-shooting/?tid=s)

QuoteThe decision to charge the officer, Michael Thomas Slager, came after graphic video footage emerged depicting Slager firing a volley of bullets into the back of Walter Scott, who was running away.

Officers rarely face criminal charges after shooting people, a fact that has played into nationwide protests over the past year over how the police use deadly force. Yet this case took a swift, unusual turn after a video shot by a bystander provided authorities with a decisive narrative that differed from Slager's account.
All cops and their cars should be required to have cameras.

South Carolina Officer Is Charged With Murder of Walter Scott (http://www.nytimes.com/2015/04/08/us/south-carolina-officer-is-charged-with-murder-in-black-mans-death.html)

QuoteThe debate over police use of force has been propelled in part by videos like the one in South Carolina. In January, prosecutors in Albuquerque charged two police officers with murder for shooting a homeless man in a confrontation that was captured by an officer's body camera.
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Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on April 08, 2015, 06:08:29 PM
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on April 08, 2015, 12:35:48 PM
Standing ovation to GoFundMe for rejecting a fundraiser for people who tried to start a defense fund for that sick farg SoCar cop.

looks like IndieGoGo site has one up for him now for "protecting his community" lolololol get the farg outta here.

Wonder how much the racist bigot fargs will give this dude?
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Post by: Seabiscuit36 on April 09, 2015, 08:28:02 AM
It's funny reading their comments on another board where initially all of the responses were WTF, shot him 8 times in the back, with the final shot being so deliberate it was like hunting.  After a day of conservative news programs,  a good portion of them want the officer to have a fair trial so that all of the facts are laid out, since the video doesnt show the initial confrontation.  The power of media to these morons just boggles my mind.  They're unable to see thru the bullshtein because they are trained to lap it up. 
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: SD on April 09, 2015, 08:36:05 AM
If the officer was in a conflict and in close proximity to the guy I'd have some sympathy. Citizens shouldn't be reaching for officers weapons. Once he turns and runs there's no need for deadly force.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: ice grillin you on April 09, 2015, 09:11:54 AM
I'm not for the death penalty in any case but I bet this will be a perfect example of one of the reasons it should be abolished....had the roles been reversed 100% death would be sought and sought hard....now it still might with the cop but I'd be surprised
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on April 09, 2015, 09:33:09 AM
Yeah once that dude ran (and running is a very subjective term here - he was mall walking) the 33yr old officer should have run him down. If he doesn't catch him then he can radio into his buddies and they'll cut him off.

But this dude lights him up.

And the dude who shot the video said that he started filming late after them grappling on the ground and after dude got tazed. But so what? You chase him...tackle him...handcuff him...and then book him. He did not deserve to lose his life.

Any of those racist fargs who try to say this was a legit shooting can go farg off and die. The cop knew he was wrong because he planted the tazer next to him. And then used the "he feared for his life" mumbo jumbo and set the hook for it to be written off as a good shooting.

His lawyer dropped his ass once he saw the video.

And the guy who filmed it even said that he waited to release it to see if the police would do/say the right thing.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: ice grillin you on April 09, 2015, 09:58:07 AM
I was reading last night that he's from Burl co....went to lenape
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Post by: General_Failure on April 14, 2015, 11:50:09 PM
Video shows Tulsa man's last moments alive after accidental police shooting (http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/video-shows-tulsa-man-shot-deputy-meant-stun-article-1.2181787)

Listen to Officer Tribal-Tats, you can totally hear how much of an accident it was.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on April 15, 2015, 12:14:29 AM
"farg your breath"....as I kneel on your head with all my weight!

The old dude who "accidentally" shot him is the sheriff's sugar daddy. He donated a ton of cash to the department and also paid for fishing trips and cruises for the sheriff. In return? He gets to play cop.

And then the investigator said that he was the real victim!

MURICA
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: General_Failure on April 28, 2015, 10:45:22 PM
C-c-c-c-ombo breaker! Would-be school shooting in Washington foiled by 'heroic' teacher (http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2015/apr/27/teacher-tackles-school-shooter-north-thurston-high-lacey-washington)

QuoteA would-be school shooter was tackled by a teacher in Washington state on Monday morning, before anyone could be killed or injured.

The gunman, who was taken into police custody but not immediately identified, fired several shots at the commons of North Thurston high school in Lacey, Washington. Students say a teacher approached him from behind and tackled him to the ground, and was then aided by more teachers in holding the shooter down. The school district confirmed in a statement that staff had apprehended the gunman.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: General_Failure on July 16, 2015, 02:07:01 PM
Video: Live-shooter event at recruiting station in Chattanooga, suspect killed (http://hotair.com/archives/2015/07/16/video-live-shooter-event-at-recruiting-station-in-chattanooga-suspect-killed/)

QuoteAt least two Marines and one police officer got shot today at two military offices, a naval reserve center and an armed forces recruiting center in Chattanooga, Tennessee. CBS News reports that the suspect has been shot and killed, but as of now there is less certainty over the number of victims and their status. The police officer is in surgery with non-life-threatening injuries.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: MDS on July 16, 2015, 03:01:16 PM
4 marines are dead, so is the gunman

gotta arm everyone. marines never have guns.
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Post by: smeags on July 16, 2015, 03:51:38 PM
wonder what South Carolina State Rep. William Chumley has to say about this shooting ?
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: General_Failure on July 16, 2015, 04:35:06 PM
Quote from: MDS on July 16, 2015, 03:01:16 PM
4 marines are dead, so is the gunman

gotta arm everyone. marines never have guns.

Isn't a big part of being a marine whining about being under-funded and under-equipped?
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Seabiscuit36 on July 16, 2015, 04:36:28 PM
And, Jade Helm has started. 
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: smeags on July 17, 2015, 08:44:49 AM
Quote from: Seabiscuit36 on July 16, 2015, 04:36:28 PM
And, Jade Helm has started.

how long before we start seeing on the news that shuttered Walmart stores are being used for "guerrilla-warfare staging areas and FEMA processing camps", ?
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on July 17, 2015, 09:42:45 AM
Well some of the loony fargs were saying that the reason Blue Bell Ice Cream was shut down was so they could use their refrigeration trucks and facilities to store bodies.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: General_Failure on July 17, 2015, 10:04:13 AM
Is the crematory backed up, too?
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: smeags on July 17, 2015, 10:06:29 AM
now i know why blue bunny ice cream has an aftertaste.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on July 17, 2015, 01:36:37 PM
Quote from: General_Failure on July 17, 2015, 10:04:13 AM
Is the crematory backed up, too?

Yes of course.

Burning bodies and gunzzzz that Obummer is taking
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Rome on July 17, 2015, 01:55:43 PM
Dead bodies are preferable as a food source. 
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: General_Failure on July 17, 2015, 02:36:12 PM
I don't think long pig is allowed under sharia law.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: smeags on July 17, 2015, 04:08:57 PM
QuoteChattanooga police officers who chased a gunman between shooting sites Thursday saved lives, said police Chief Fred Fletcher. "They are my heroes."

Evidence shows police killed Mohammad Youssuf Abdulazeez, and he did not kill himself, FBI Special Agent Ed Reinhold said. He said Abdulazeez had two long guns and one handgun.

Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Diomedes on July 23, 2015, 10:26:03 PM
Lafayette. 

Shooter dead suicide.  We'll see how many others.

It's the guns, stupid.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on July 23, 2015, 11:05:38 PM
Oh goooood another mass shooting.

Welcome to America!
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: MDS on July 23, 2015, 11:10:49 PM
3 dead. meh.

there was a massacre at a theater 3 years ago.....an entire 1st grade class was gunned down....9 black people were killed in a church by a racist....nothing's changed. 3 measly dead people in farging lafayette isnt surviving past the next donald trump soundbite news cycle.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Don Ho on July 24, 2015, 05:22:12 AM
Mother farg this world.  Unreal.  Just do us all a favor and kill yourself before you do your cowardly deed.  Dickless Hoyda. Makes me sick.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: smeags on July 24, 2015, 08:57:38 AM
wondering if this isnt just a random killing and if he knew the two people he killed.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: rjs246 on July 24, 2015, 09:09:32 AM
They're reporting that he was a drifter with some drifter-ish criminal record. He wanted out and decided to make a scene, like an icehole.

Think it might be time to start taking the mental health of our citizens seriously? Maybe? Nah, let's just send everyone to prison.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: smeags on July 24, 2015, 09:14:30 AM
helping people with mental illness takes work. this country is lazy.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: rjs246 on July 24, 2015, 09:17:03 AM
It also takes a collective acknowledgement that sometimes people need help from the society that they live in. Americans don't like to think about people needing help. They like to talk about pulling up bootstraps and back to back world war championships. No money for the suffering. All the money for CEOs and war mongers.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Beermonkey on July 24, 2015, 10:18:42 AM
Quote from: rjs246 on July 24, 2015, 09:09:32 AM
They're reporting that he was a drifter with some drifter-ish criminal record. He wanted out and decided to make a scene, like an icehole.

I imagine there was a collective angry yell this morning when the shooter was identified as a white guy and not some brownish person.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: rjs246 on July 24, 2015, 10:22:46 AM
Aren't these types of things always white dudes? Seriously, other than drug/gang mass killings, isn't this random public killing spree thing a uniquely white male thing?
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Beermonkey on July 24, 2015, 10:26:55 AM
Quote from: rjs246 on July 24, 2015, 09:09:32 AM
They're reporting that he was a drifter with some drifter-ish criminal record. He wanted out and decided to make a scene, like an icehole.

I imagine there was a collective angry yell this morning when the shooter was identified as a white guy and not some brownish person.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: rjs246 on July 24, 2015, 10:28:53 AM
Oh yeah?
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Beermonkey on July 24, 2015, 10:30:23 AM
Quote from: rjs246 on July 24, 2015, 09:17:03 AM
It also takes a collective acknowledgement that sometimes people need help from the society that they live in. Americans don't like to think about people needing help. They like to talk about pulling up bootstraps and back to back world war championships. No money for the suffering. All the money for CEOs and war mongers.

I spent 3 innings at a Phillies game arguing about Obamacare with my mouth-breathing, far-right republican friend. After going back and forth, he just finally just yelled "farg the poor. farg the poor. i farging hate the poor". I think that pretty much sums up that whole side of the party's attitude about the poor, minorities and those with mental health issues.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: ice grillin you on July 24, 2015, 10:34:00 AM
Quote from: Beermonkey on July 24, 2015, 10:18:42 AM
Quote from: rjs246 on July 24, 2015, 09:09:32 AM
They're reporting that he was a drifter with some drifter-ish criminal record. He wanted out and decided to make a scene, like an icehole.

I imagine there was a collective angry yell this morning when the shooter was identified as a white guy and not some brownish person.

i laughed last week when a certain large segment of the population wanted to hang the chattanooga shooter because it was clearly isis influenced domestic terrorism two weeks after the same people wanted let the charleston shooting marinate for a while and for like three days it was "toon soon" to label it a hate crime
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Beermonkey on July 24, 2015, 10:42:17 AM
Quote from: ice grillin you on July 24, 2015, 10:34:00 AM
Quote from: Beermonkey on July 24, 2015, 10:18:42 AM
Quote from: rjs246 on July 24, 2015, 09:09:32 AM
They're reporting that he was a drifter with some drifter-ish criminal record. He wanted out and decided to make a scene, like an icehole.

I imagine there was a collective angry yell this morning when the shooter was identified as a white guy and not some brownish person.

i laughed last week when a certain large segment of the population wanted to hang the chattanooga shooter because it was clearly isis influenced domestic terrorism two weeks after the same people wanted let the charleston shooting marinate for a while and for like three days it was "toon soon" to label it a hate crime

I bet there were thousand of angry blog posts started about the dangers of blacks/muslims with guns, only to be filed away for the future. Those same people are now furiously typing away opinion pieces on how taking guns from the mentally ill is a slippery slope to Obama's jack-booted thugs raiding our homes.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Rome on July 25, 2015, 08:35:22 AM
http://news.yahoo.com/theater-gunman-built-reputation-angry-provocateur-064509522.html#

typically diseased right-wing paranoid nut-bag.  320 million americans and there's probably a good 10% or more who are just like this worthless piece of shtein.  too bad they can't just take themselves out and leave the rest of us in peace.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: ice grillin you on July 25, 2015, 08:58:44 AM
Quote
"As many times as I had him on it was obvious he had a screw loose," Floyd said.

that ahole should be in jail with him...i obviously get and understand the first ammendment but speech matters...people get their shtein from fox to rush on down to the lokel yokel on the radio or the internet....it all matters

so this farg face knew the guy was spewing hatred and lies and "had a screw loose" yet continued to put him on the air dozens of times
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Beermonkey on August 07, 2015, 10:59:15 PM
Hey, crazy is as crazy does. What are we supposed to do here? Ban gun sales to Muslims is fine but background checks for criminals or those with severe mental illness is crossing the line. All is fine here, move along.

http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/aurora-movie-theater-shooter-sentenced-life-prison-after-jury-cant-n406276 (http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/aurora-movie-theater-shooter-sentenced-life-prison-after-jury-cant-n406276)
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: MDS on October 01, 2015, 02:37:21 PM
its thursday in america, that means

http://www.oregonlive.com/pacific-northwest-news/index.ssf/2015/10/active_shooting_reported_at_um.html
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on October 01, 2015, 06:42:29 PM
Ho hum just another day in the good ol USA

The shooter apparently made victims stand up and state their religion before shooting

If it was a Muslim shooter wait for the assault on Obama...somehow this'll be his fault
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: smeags on October 01, 2015, 06:56:08 PM
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on October 01, 2015, 06:42:29 PM
Ho hum just another day in the good ol USA

The shooter apparently made victims stand up and state their religion before shooting

If it was a Muslim shooter wait for the assault on Obama...somehow this'll be his fault
of course it is, he didn't take der gunz
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on October 01, 2015, 07:21:50 PM
Barry went off in his PC and said we have made a political decision to allow this to happen

GOP and NRA response should be interesting
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on October 01, 2015, 07:42:33 PM
Glad I watched the video of his entire PC. His statement was very solid.

Not glad I read Twitter replies and article comments

"He chooses to politicize this"
"Bodies aren't even cold yet and this president is making it political"

We have a country full of dumb farging idiots
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on October 02, 2015, 12:07:17 AM
So this dude apparently hated organized religion and was a conservative republican?

Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: ice grillin you on October 02, 2015, 07:38:58 AM
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on October 02, 2015, 12:07:17 AM
So this dude apparently hated organized religion and was a conservative republican?

he also was an IRA lover which was a catholic organization
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: MDS on October 02, 2015, 11:23:16 AM
he seemed like a pretty normal dude. glad he was able to get all those guns.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: ice grillin you on October 02, 2015, 03:11:52 PM
so the sheriff investigating the shooting in oregon is a sandy hook truther....he thinks the government was behind it so that they could take everyones guns away

sweet
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: smeags on October 02, 2015, 03:49:30 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on October 02, 2015, 03:11:52 PM
so the sheriff investigating the shooting in oregon is a sandy hook truther....he thinks the government was behind it so that they could take everyones guns away

sweet

yeah because the neocons in the government would just let that happen.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: ice grillin you on October 02, 2015, 03:51:37 PM
a black man born in kenya won the presidency.....changing the constitution would be the easy part
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: General_Failure on October 02, 2015, 04:06:14 PM
Shooting in Oregon: So far in 2015, we've had 274 days and 294 mass shootings (http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonkblog/wp/2015/10/01/2015-274-days-294-mass-shootings-hundreds-dead/)

(https://img.washingtonpost.com/wp-apps/imrs.php?src=https://img.washingtonpost.com/blogs/wonkblog/files/2015/10/mass_shootings.png&w=1484)
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: smeags on October 02, 2015, 04:24:04 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on October 02, 2015, 03:51:37 PM
a black man born in kenya won the presidency.....changing the constitution would be the easy part

im talking about the neocons allowing that muslim spy to pull off a mass shooting like this to push his anit-gun agenda to disarm America for coming invasion.

shtein, Clinton couldn't get one intern to shut about a blowjob but im sure barry could pull this off.

Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Rome on October 02, 2015, 04:26:08 PM
In two days people will have moved on.    Nothing bad will change because of this. In fact it will only get worse because Congress is bought and paid for by the gun lobby.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: MDS on October 02, 2015, 04:30:44 PM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CQVoJDHUcAAxABJ.png)

jeb bush on people dying
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Sgt PSN on October 02, 2015, 04:36:02 PM
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Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Rome on October 02, 2015, 04:48:25 PM
Quote from: MDS on October 02, 2015, 04:30:44 PM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CQVoJDHUcAAxABJ.png)

jeb bush on people dying

I'd be more than fine if he and his entire farging bloodline disappeared.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on October 02, 2015, 05:39:24 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on October 02, 2015, 03:11:52 PM
so the sheriff investigating the shooting in oregon is a sandy hook truther....he thinks the government was behind it so that they could take everyones guns away

sweet

Oh that is delicious.

Like I said - a nation chock full of dipshteins...

And I liked when Obama said to pull the stats on the amount of deaths via terrorism compared to teh gunzzz....

Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Diomedes on October 03, 2015, 11:53:46 AM
http://www.forbes.com/sites/janetstemwedel/2015/10/01/congress-still-bans-cdc-scientists-from-studying-gun-violence/
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on October 03, 2015, 10:27:11 PM
http://m.nydailynews.com/news/national/exclusive-mom-ore-shooter-stockpiled-guns-article-1.2384460?cid=bitly&utm_content=bufferc18c4&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter.com&utm_campaign=NYDailyNewsTw

Solid parenting from this woman

Obama was gonna take her gunzzzz so she stockpiled
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on October 03, 2015, 10:37:24 PM
Cuomo says dems should force govt shutdown to force repubs to give in to gun control

What say you?
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Sgt PSN on October 03, 2015, 11:39:26 PM
Absolutely not. I don't like it when the GOP acts like a bunch of babies when they don't get their way, so I can't rightly support Dems for doing the same thing.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on October 03, 2015, 11:42:04 PM
That's where I am on it too. Two wrongs doesn't make a right

However some posturing and threatening of doing it could open some eyes
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Sgt PSN on October 04, 2015, 12:02:51 AM
Even just the threat of a shutdown will send the right into a downright frenzie. Nevermind the fact that the GOP has forced a shutdown of their own, we all know that they have very short memories when it comes to this shtein. Not to mention that as we approach an election year, the last thing Dems need or want is for the voting public to even think that they so much as considered a shutdown.  Voters aren't very good at remembering specifics and the GOP platform during campaign season would basically be "Hey, remember when the Dems wanted to shutdown the Gov't last year?"  And idiots out there would eat it up.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on October 04, 2015, 12:57:50 AM
It would be detrimental to the democrats for sure

But what will it takes for something serious to be done?
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Sgt PSN on October 04, 2015, 01:05:31 AM
Short of rounding up every gun on the planet and melting them down, what do people really expect reform to accomplish?  Serious question. What's the actual end game?

I've said for years that I'm on board with some moderate reform to make it harder for the wrong people to legally purchase guns, but what's that really going to solve? 

As much as we have a problem with gun violence in this country, there's really no legislation that can even slightly improve things, let alone make a significant change.

The change has to be in our culture more than anything else.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: ice grillin you on October 04, 2015, 01:18:24 AM
Quote from: Sgt PSN on October 04, 2015, 01:05:31 AM
Short of rounding up every gun on the planet and melting them down, what do people really expect reform to accomplish?  Serious question. What's the actual end game?.

its not an end game its a nooks and cranny game

how about it not being as easy to  purchase a gun as it is a slurpee

how about having to register a gun like you do a car

how about gun shows 'showing' guns instead of selling them under no regulation

how about banning fully automatic weapons...machine guns were everywhere until a law was passed

the answer to your question is that there are literally dozens of ways we could curb gun violence if America (both right and left) would gow a set and vote on real legislation instead of catering to the three thousand people in their district that will keep them in office
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on October 04, 2015, 01:45:54 AM
Agreed.

I am not for a total ban but the fact that they're so easy to obtain is what needs to be addressed. The fact is that the US has a massive problem that other countries do not have when it comes to shootings.

Why is that?

So the change that needs to happen is the tightening up on the availability and ease in which it is possible for just about anyone to buy a gun.

Because the way it has been done is not working. No one needs an AR-15 or any weapon similar to that. They are not hunting guns (well they are for human hunting). Extended mags aren't needed for handguns.

The "don't tread on me and take my guns" crowd thinks pro-gun reform people want them all wiped off the face of the earth. But its not even that. Limit what John Q Public is allowed to own/buy. Make them heavily regulated via registration.

And lets be real about owning a gun...most people are NOT equipped to handle themselves as they believe they are with a weapon. The ones who think they can shoot a human being, and be a good enough shot, to shoot the offender while the adrenaline is flowing are in for a rude awakening should they ever get in that situation.

The NRA folks want everyone armed. But if something pops off in a crowded place, like say a theater or school campus, are these people to be trusted to calmly draw their weapon and hit the intended target? I'd say no. I am willing to bet that they'd squeeze off a couple that miss and probably hit an innocent bystander. What happens then? I mean we already see cases of people (Zimmerman, etc) who abuse the law and shoot and then try to make a narrative fit as to why they killed someone. Remember the dude who killed the kid for his stereo being too loud?

I believe in owning a handgun. And I would be willing to have it registered and pay a yearly registration fee. I would also be wiling to submit myself to whatever lengthy background check and waiting period that goes along with it. I do not believe in owning arsenals nor do I believe in owning long guns outside of a shotgun and hunting rifle.

Sarge I am sure you saw people in your military career who weren't good shots or people who you did not exhibit the mental capacity to be trusted with weapons outside of the controlled military environment.

I remember when I had to qualify on the range for the prison...we had people out there who made me scared to stand next to. Swinging a loaded shotgun back towards the group because they jacked the round in wrong. Shooting only 5 of the 6 shots in the .357 and then turning towards the instructor with the other round still live...

First time I ever did a transport into a public place? I was nervous. Obviously we were armed when we did them. I had to escort a guy into a doctors appt in Austin. This was a free-world clinic so there were kids and regular people in the lobby.

All I could think about was if this guy tries to do something I am going to have to draw and shoot him...my adrenaline was flowing and I couldn't wait to get away from that clinic. I was only 20 years old.

People say "well how do you even begin to regulate and fix this"...there's only one way to eat an elephant and that is bit by bit. Gotta start somewhere....
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: ice grillin you on October 04, 2015, 01:54:46 AM
don't get me wrong im for a total ban...but thats not even remotely realistic...but in lieu of that cant we meet in the middle and let less people die...every other industrialized country in the world has strict gun laws and minimal gun deaths....we know it works we just wont do it....cuz merica!!!
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on October 04, 2015, 02:16:04 AM
Another thing that annoys me is when the pro-gun folks look down their noses at the "gun free zones" as if they are advertisements for people to go commit mass killings there.

I heard this somewhere the other day....remember back in the day when it was commonplace to not wear a seat belt and to also grab a beer or two for the road? Then both of those stopped in the name of making the roads safer. Were people overly against those changes?

The other day here in the wild wild west aka Houston some dudes decided they wanted to go shoot up a house because of a beef with an older teenager in the family. They unloaded on the place and ended up killing a 6yr old who was asleep in his bed. Is that OK for the people who support guns? If that happened to an NRA/congressman family would they just shrug their shoulders and say shtein happens?

Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Don Ho on October 04, 2015, 03:22:01 AM
Quote from: ice grillin you on October 04, 2015, 01:18:24 AM
Quote from: Sgt PSN on October 04, 2015, 01:05:31 AM
Short of rounding up every gun on the planet and melting them down, what do people really expect reform to accomplish?  Serious question. What's the actual end game?.

its not an end game its a nooks and cranny game

how about it not being as easy to  purchase a gun as it is a slurpee

how about having to register a gun like you do a car

how about gun shows 'showing' guns instead of selling them under no regulation

how about banning fully automatic weapons...machine guns were everywhere until a law was passed

the answer to your question is that there are literally dozens of ways we could curb gun violence if America (both right and left) would gow a set and vote on real legislation instead of catering to the three thousand people in their district that will keep them in office

IGY you beautiful SOB.  Well said my man, well said.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Sgt PSN on October 04, 2015, 03:40:14 AM
Quote from: ice grillin you on October 04, 2015, 01:18:24 AM
Quote from: Sgt PSN on October 04, 2015, 01:05:31 AM
Short of rounding up every gun on the planet and melting them down, what do people really expect reform to accomplish?  Serious question. What's the actual end game?.

its not an end game its a nooks and cranny game

how about it not being as easy to  purchase a gun as it is a slurpee

how about having to register a gun like you do a car

how about gun shows 'showing' guns instead of selling them under no regulation

how about banning fully automatic weapons...machine guns were everywhere until a law was passed

the answer to your question is that there are literally dozens of ways we could curb gun violence if America (both right and left) would gow a set and vote on real legislation instead of catering to the three thousand people in their district that will keep them in office

I'm down with pretty much all of that, but in the end I really don't see any of these ideas being all that effective.  It would mostly be a fluff law....something that will supposedly make a lot of people feel safer while actually doing very little to ensure actual safety. 

So while I'm not going all "don't tread on me/2nd amendment nutso" who wants to arm school teachers and students, I just don't think that there's any legislation ideas out there that will make a tangible, noticeable difference. 
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Sgt PSN on October 04, 2015, 04:06:55 AM
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on October 04, 2015, 01:45:54 AM
No one needs an AR-15 or any weapon similar to that. They are not hunting guns (well they are for human hunting). Extended mags aren't needed for handguns.

No one needs a car that goes 0-60 in 3 seconds or tops out at 200mph.  But they're cool as shtein and people want them.  If you want to regulate one thing based on what people need vs what they don't need, then you need to regulate everything that people don't actually need.  And who makes the determination as to what is necessary and what isn't? 

QuoteThe "don't tread on me and take my guns" crowd thinks pro-gun reform people want them all wiped off the face of the earth. But its not even that. Limit what John Q Public is allowed to own/buy. Make them heavily regulated via registration.

Technically, this actually is in direct contrast to the 2nd amendment.  Part of the purpose of the amendment is so that people can defend themselves and their property from the fed gov't should the feds ever decide to wage war against the people.  So if we start putting limitations on what people can own, we do in a way, put more power in the feds' hands, and that's something I'm not really on board with.  Understand that my argument here isn't specifically about being pro-gun as much as it's about preventing the fed gov't from gaining more power.       

QuoteAnd lets be real about owning a gun...most people are NOT equipped to handle themselves as they believe they are with a weapon. The ones who think they can shoot a human being, and be a good enough shot, to shoot the offender while the adrenaline is flowing are in for a rude awakening should they ever get in that situation.

Agreed.  Which is why I would fully support some sort of required weapons safety and training program for any gun owner. 

QuoteThe NRA folks want everyone armed.

The NRA is to gun rights as Al Sharpton is to Civil Rights.  Seriously....farg the NRA.  Bunch of paranoid whack jobs who are more concerned with whether or not Obama is going to raid their armory than they are with schools and movie theaters getting shot up, or toddlers picking up daddy's pistol of the nightstand and blowing his head off. But just because the NRA is group of deranged lunatics, that doesn't necessarily mean that taking a completely opposite stance from them is the right thing to do. 

QuoteI believe in owning a handgun. And I would be willing to have it registered and pay a yearly registration fee. I would also be wiling to submit myself to whatever lengthy background check and waiting period that goes along with it. I do not believe in owning arsenals nor do I believe in owning long guns outside of a shotgun and hunting rifle.

Luckily no one can or will force you to purchase a gun that you don't want.  But just because it doesn't fit in your comfort zone doesn't necessarily mean that others should have to live according to your beliefs.....ie: Kim Davis.

QuoteSarge I am sure you saw people in your military career who weren't good shots or people who you did not exhibit the mental capacity to be trusted with weapons outside of the controlled military environment.

Oh yeah.....I saw plenty of people who were more likely to take out their own men rather than the enemy if they ever saw combat.  I also see plenty of really bad drivers every day who have no business being behind the wheel of a car.....unless they are actually behind the car and are getting run over. 

QuotePeople say "well how do you even begin to regulate and fix this"...there's only one way to eat an elephant and that is bit by bit. Gotta start somewhere....

It's the end point that I'm more concerned with. 
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: ice grillin you on October 04, 2015, 09:59:56 AM
Quote from: Sgt PSN on October 04, 2015, 03:40:14 AM
I'm down with pretty much all of that, but in the end I really don't see any of these ideas being all that effective.

why have any laws then
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Rome on October 04, 2015, 11:00:24 AM
I'm all for background checks, registration, etc.  The problem is criminals will always get their hands on guns especially with 300 million of them in circulation in this country.   Sorry, but the cork is out of the bottle and the genie has escaped.  There's no going back.  There's no confiscating them either.  I mean, theoretically it's possible and I'd be all in if we had a legitimate chance to create a gun-free liberal utopia, but that's not going to happen.

We're savages and we're going to keep slaughtering each other.  It's in our DNA and there's no changing that now.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Diomedes on October 04, 2015, 11:13:51 AM
That's pretty much the deal.

We could improve things a bit by putting gun criminals in prison for draconian sentences.

Possess on illegally....20 years.

Point one at someone, 30  years.

Shoot at someone, 40 years.

Shoot someone, 50.

Kill someone, life.

No parole.  Gun crimes are worth building prisons for, and it's worth keeping people who break gun laws out of the playground.

See if that doesn't change some behavior over the course of a few decades.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Munson on October 04, 2015, 11:18:02 AM
Quote from: Sgt PSN on October 04, 2015, 04:06:55 AM
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on October 04, 2015, 01:45:54 AM
No one needs an AR-15 or any weapon similar to that. They are not hunting guns (well they are for human hunting). Extended mags aren't needed for handguns.

No one needs a car that goes 0-60 in 3 seconds or tops out at 200mph.  But they're cool as shtein and people want them.  If you want to regulate one thing based on what people need vs what they don't need, then you need to regulate everything that people don't actually need.  And who makes the determination as to what is necessary and what isn't? 

QuoteThe "don't tread on me and take my guns" crowd thinks pro-gun reform people want them all wiped off the face of the earth. But its not even that. Limit what John Q Public is allowed to own/buy. Make them heavily regulated via registration.

Technically, this actually is in direct contrast to the 2nd amendment.  Part of the purpose of the amendment is so that people can defend themselves and their property from the fed gov't should the feds ever decide to wage war against the people.  So if we start putting limitations on what people can own, we do in a way, put more power in the feds' hands, and that's something I'm not really on board with.  Understand that my argument here isn't specifically about being pro-gun as much as it's about preventing the fed gov't from gaining more power.       

QuoteAnd lets be real about owning a gun...most people are NOT equipped to handle themselves as they believe they are with a weapon. The ones who think they can shoot a human being, and be a good enough shot, to shoot the offender while the adrenaline is flowing are in for a rude awakening should they ever get in that situation.

Agreed.  Which is why I would fully support some sort of required weapons safety and training program for any gun owner. 

QuoteThe NRA folks want everyone armed.

The NRA is to gun rights as Al Sharpton is to Civil Rights.  Seriously....farg the NRA.  Bunch of paranoid whack jobs who are more concerned with whether or not Obama is going to raid their armory than they are with schools and movie theaters getting shot up, or toddlers picking up daddy's pistol of the nightstand and blowing his head off. But just because the NRA is group of deranged lunatics, that doesn't necessarily mean that taking a completely opposite stance from them is the right thing to do. 

QuoteI believe in owning a handgun. And I would be willing to have it registered and pay a yearly registration fee. I would also be wiling to submit myself to whatever lengthy background check and waiting period that goes along with it. I do not believe in owning arsenals nor do I believe in owning long guns outside of a shotgun and hunting rifle.

Luckily no one can or will force you to purchase a gun that you don't want.  But just because it doesn't fit in your comfort zone doesn't necessarily mean that others should have to live according to your beliefs.....ie: Kim Davis.

QuoteSarge I am sure you saw people in your military career who weren't good shots or people who you did not exhibit the mental capacity to be trusted with weapons outside of the controlled military environment.

Oh yeah.....I saw plenty of people who were more likely to take out their own men rather than the enemy if they ever saw combat.  I also see plenty of really bad drivers every day who have no business being behind the wheel of a car.....unless they are actually behind the car and are getting run over. 

QuotePeople say "well how do you even begin to regulate and fix this"...there's only one way to eat an elephant and that is bit by bit. Gotta start somewhere....

It's the end point that I'm more concerned with.

You keep bringing up the car example, but here's the thing....A car was built to do something other than kill people. And because they are so dangerous, we have reacted in kind with extreme measures of saftey. Mandatory training for people who want to use a car anywhere from a few months to a year+, if you count the time where new drivers have to be supervised while driving. To mention the whole needing to be registered, insured, etc.

If we handled new gun owners the same way we handled new car drivers, I'd be incredibly happy.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on October 04, 2015, 11:31:43 AM
Dio is spot on with the prison sentences. Stop locking people up for years for small drug possessions and hammer the shtein out of gun crime offenders.

Also Munson is right with the rebuttal to the car example.

Cars need licensed drivers and insured drivers. You don't have to have either to own a gun.

Imagine if you were required to carry insurance to own a gun? Hell I like that idea a lot to be honest.

So when someone's kid is playing with that glock they carelessly left out and the kid accidentally shoots their little friend? Parents not only go to jail for poorly securing their weapon but their gun insurance policy pays out to the dead kids family.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Diomedes on October 04, 2015, 11:35:40 AM
You're kid kills himself with your gun...life sentence for you.  His death ain't punishment enough.

Stop farging around.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Sgt PSN on October 04, 2015, 11:59:12 AM
Munson, which part of my saying that I'd fully support gun training classes for gun owners (which would be the same thing as requiring a DL for cars) didn't you understand?

And if you dig deep enough in this thread, I'm almost certain that I said like 2 or 3 years ago that I'd be down with gun owners having to carry some sort of insurance policy.

And I agree 100% with Dio on the extremely severe prison sentences.

I don't have a problem with tightening things up a little bit...or even a lot. That's never been the message. What I have been saying is that I don't see any of these ideas actually being effective at reducing the gun violence in this country.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: ice grillin you on October 04, 2015, 12:06:17 PM
bottom line is there are literally hundreds of things we could do....we instead do nothing

and in fact a large part of our country thinks the answer is to arm more people

we are a pathetic joke
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Sgt PSN on October 04, 2015, 12:08:08 PM
Absolutely.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Geowhizzer on October 04, 2015, 12:30:31 PM
To say that mass shootings happen in the US and not in other nations is incorrect.

Politifact article on Obama's statements to that effect. (http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2015/jun/22/barack-obama/barack-obama-correct-mass-killings-dont-happen-oth/)

I'm not saying that I'm not in favor of some common-sense gun legislation - why should gun owners not be registered? - but the facts just do not support a blanket statement that mass shootings are solely a U.S. problem.

Now, the overall murder rate?  That could be a more secure starting point for this conversation.  Just not as sensationalist in its nature.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: hunt on October 04, 2015, 05:52:30 PM
nm...already posted.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: General_Failure on October 04, 2015, 05:56:23 PM
Bel Air's about to get real crowded.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on October 04, 2015, 05:57:03 PM
http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2015/10/03/us/how-mass-shooters-got-their-guns.html?hp&action=click&pgtype=Homepage&module=photo-spot-region&region=top-news&WT.nav=top-news&_r=0

Huh...so about those stricter regulations...bought legally. Time to tighten up.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on October 05, 2015, 12:20:32 AM
http://m.nydailynews.com/news/national/mom-oregon-shooter-bragged-weapons-online-report-article-1.2383689?cid=msn

Damn lady...
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Seabiscuit36 on October 05, 2015, 04:00:55 PM
Quote from: Sgt PSN on October 04, 2015, 01:05:31 AM
Short of rounding up every gun on the planet and melting them down, what do people really expect reform to accomplish?  Serious question. What's the actual end game?

I've said for years that I'm on board with some moderate reform to make it harder for the wrong people to legally purchase guns, but what's that really going to solve? 

As much as we have a problem with gun violence in this country, there's really no legislation that can even slightly improve things, let alone make a significant change.

The change has to be in our culture more than anything else.

I'll just say that Legislation to ban them will not fix the issue at hand.  Even when the legislation is enacted, it opens up the door for so many workarounds that were not envisioned by those writing the laws that it makes them a moot point. 

Look at Chicago's handgun ban, and how the murder rate by handgun has increased.  Dio is on point about punishment for commission of felony's with a weapon laws.  You're going to have a much broader impact if the sentence is so harsh that it has an impact on the mentality of those perpetrating the crime.  If you want to crack down on straw purchases, this is where the punishment part should completely mimic the penalties of the person who commits the crime. 

You're never going to round up all of the weapons in this country, and if you do you would need to enact mandatory registration of any and all firearms.  Cuomo did that for any assault weapons aka black scary guns in NY(Safe Act), and its widely considered a failure since the list is mostly comprised of police officers and military registrants who had to register to maintain a clean record.   At last count they estimated between a 5-10% compliance rate, not exactly what Cuomo envisioned. 

We've covered it before, the laws all depend on the state that you reside.  The Brady Bill basically sets the stage for all background checks thru state and federal db's for new gun purchases.  Where it falls short is that it's only applies for sales from FFL's and relies on states to cover individual sales.  The Federal NICS DB works in its current form, but it can't identify those who are having mental breakdowns that haven't been formally sent for evaluation. 

In the end, I'd like to see Enhanced penalties for straw purchases and FFL requirements for any purchases or transfers of possession as a national statute.  Required training and certification for any regulated weapon and Storage requirements.  The mental health portion is the toughest to change because of HIPPA laws, but I do think there has to be a compromise there. 

   
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: ice grillin you on October 05, 2015, 04:28:40 PM
punishment does not deter crime...never has never will

availability is the answer
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Diomedes on October 05, 2015, 04:49:31 PM
Punishment absolutely does deter crime.  Why else do dealers have children carry their dope and guns?  Because they don't want to do the time, and the kids won't get real time. 

There are a lot of motherfargers carrying today who would leave it at home tomorrow if they knew they'd be down for 20 no parole if they got picked up.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: ice grillin you on October 05, 2015, 04:57:28 PM
crime is higher in places where there is the death penalty....mandatory minimum sentences dud nothing to stop drugs

someone is not going to use a gun because the will get 40 years instead of 15
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on October 05, 2015, 05:22:38 PM
I think Dio is right in the sense that someone who normally wouldn't carry a weapon would think twice about carrying if there was a no questions asked 20yr sentence attached to it.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: ice grillin you on October 07, 2015, 04:27:38 PM
outstadning piece on the shootout at the waco corral....seems as tho the police may have instigated it

http://www.gq.com/story/untold-story-texas-biker-gang-shoot-out
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Diomedes on October 07, 2015, 06:15:07 PM
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on October 05, 2015, 05:22:38 PM
I think Dio is right..

The point I am trying to make regarding punishment for gun criminals is not that draconian sentencing will create a substantial deterence effect--though do I believe it might--but that it will take bad actors out of society.  If some think twice about waving a gun around in a traffic dispute because they'd rather not do 20 years, all the better...but what I want is for the guy who does do that to actually be kicked out of the playground of society.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on October 07, 2015, 08:23:53 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on October 07, 2015, 04:27:38 PM
outstadning piece on the shootout at the waco corral....seems as tho the police may have instigated it

http://www.gq.com/story/untold-story-texas-biker-gang-shoot-out

Started reading this last night...saw it on the long form website

And I'm with you Dio. Throw the book at them. Of course the book needs to have those hardcore laws in it first
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: ice grillin you on October 08, 2015, 09:28:01 PM
Quote from: Diomedes on October 07, 2015, 06:15:07 PM
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on October 05, 2015, 05:22:38 PM
I think Dio is right..

The point I am trying to make regarding punishment for gun criminals is not that draconian sentencing will create a substantial deterence effect--though do I believe it might--but that it will take bad actors out of society.  If some think twice about waving a gun around in a traffic dispute because they'd rather not do 20 years, all the better...but what I want is for the guy who does do that to actually be kicked out of the playground of society.

that never works tho....sweeping incarcement gets far too many good or not so bad guys in its net....one thing that always works tho is less of a bad thing is a good thing....whether that means machine guns...cigarettes....cars without seatbelts....sugary soda...drugs etc...

when theres less of anything that causes harm the harm goes down

more guns but harsher punishment will do nothing
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Geowhizzer on October 08, 2015, 10:18:48 PM
Did you ever study the history of prohibition?
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: General_Failure on October 08, 2015, 10:20:02 PM
I have. We're days away from winning the War on Drugs.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: ice grillin you on October 08, 2015, 10:28:09 PM
the war on drugs didn't work cause it never was  about making drugs less prevalent just over criminalizing them

prohibition absolutely cut down on alcohol use and if you banned alcohol today alcohol related deaths would undoubtedly be slashed

these are obvious facts

Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: General_Failure on October 09, 2015, 09:02:51 AM
One killed, 3 injured in shooting at Northern Arizona University (http://www.cnn.com/2015/10/09/us/northern-arizona-university-shooting/index.html)

QuoteOne person died and three others were injured in an overnight shooting at Northern Arizona University in Flagstaff, university officials said Friday.

The shooter was in custody, and the school was not on lockdown, university spokesman Cindy Brown told CNN.

The shooting happened in a parking lot next to the Mountain View residence hall around 1:20 a.m., she said.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: phillycrew on October 09, 2015, 10:11:46 AM
Why not remove any restriction on lawsuits and actually enact legislation that would hold gun manufacturers and sellers liable for acts that are committed with a gun?  It may have an adverse impact on lawful gun owners, but it could spur the dealers and manufacturers to require background checks and other controls.  Could address the availability issue that IGY raises.  Problem is there are so many guns that are already out there.

Society also needs to examine our acceptance of guns.  In many ways, society has shamed the smoker/drunk driver/drug addict.  The challenge is the marginalized in our society still embrace these vices and may continue to love their guns.  Unfortunately, these shooters tend to come from these marginalized classes.  Dio is right with the harsher penalties.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Seabiscuit36 on October 09, 2015, 05:14:04 PM
Hey, those gun companies paid big money to both sides of the Aisle to get the liability protection.  Maybe the suits who signed off on it should pay back the money they received. 

Obama's new Executive action order is fine with me.  It's set for folks who sell more than 50 unregulated weapons to be required to file as an FFL.  Makes total sense to me, but I'm curious how many people would actually fit that bill.  If its sales of regulated weapons ie handgun/assault weapons, those all have to be done with a FFL or at the appropriate authority which is usually the state police. 

The thing is, the executive action does nothing to address any of the weapons that were procured for anything from sandy hook to Umpqua.  So a fluff common sense rule is either being presented to placate one side or incense another, or maybe just to see who stands up for what. 

If you want to address our society's acceptance of guns, look no further than every network tv show.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: General_Failure on December 02, 2015, 03:42:57 PM
Active shooters in San Bernardino; 'multiple victims' (http://www.wusa9.com/story/news/nation/2015/12/02/officials-shooting-reported-calif-golf-course/76675776/)

QuoteSAN BERNARDINO, Calif. — San Bernardino authorities reported Wednesday as many as 3 active shooters with rifles and "multiple victims" at a social services center. Witnesses report shooters wearing ski masks and vests.

There were reports of multiple victims, Lt. Rich Lawhead told the Associated Press. The San Bernardino Fire Department said on Twitter that there are reports of possibly 20 victims.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: smeags on December 02, 2015, 04:10:47 PM
Here we go again.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: ice grillin you on December 02, 2015, 04:24:39 PM
minimum 12 dead
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: MDS on December 02, 2015, 04:45:43 PM
america didnt give a shtein about a classroom full of 1st graders was annihilated, like its going to care about a center for retards

farg this country
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: ice grillin you on December 02, 2015, 06:13:01 PM
ghetto bird live shot of the police having the suspects cornered at an intersection...shot being ripped off...crazy
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on December 02, 2015, 06:23:17 PM
Wait - they shot up special needs people?!
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: ice grillin you on December 02, 2015, 06:25:59 PM
one suspect in custody....two others shot....one dead
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on December 02, 2015, 06:30:46 PM
So I have been busy as farg today and just heard about all this

any news on what and why this happened?

I mean other than it just being another day in Wayne LaPierre's America
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Diomedes on December 02, 2015, 06:33:26 PM
I heard that the auditorium in which the shooter(s) attacked people was rented out at the time. 

Would love to know what group had that rental if the report is true.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: ice grillin you on December 02, 2015, 06:38:59 PM
if its a specific beef with this center or whatever group may have rented out that room then its really bizarre that there are three shooters...usually that one mans beef and you don't or cant get people to help you

three people to me sounds like domestic terrorism....I believe its a government facility...that might be the connection...but even in that case how many people would associate a place like that with the federal government
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: General_Failure on December 02, 2015, 06:43:01 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on December 02, 2015, 06:38:59 PM
I believe its a government facility...that might be the connection...but even in that case how many people would associate a place like that with the federal government

Social Services Center? Is that where all the welfare queens line up so Obama can give them my money?
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: QB Eagles on December 02, 2015, 06:43:56 PM
Quote from: Diomedes on December 02, 2015, 06:33:26 PM
Would love to know what group had that rental if the report is true.

The Department of Public Health. Hard to imagine any political motive specifically targeting them. Maybe Jim Carrey didn't like them setting people up with flu shots.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: ice grillin you on December 02, 2015, 06:55:09 PM
Quote from: General_Failure on December 02, 2015, 06:43:01 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on December 02, 2015, 06:38:59 PM
I believe its a government facility...that might be the connection...but even in that case how many people would associate a place like that with the federal government

Social Services Center? Is that where all the welfare queens line up so Obama can give them my money?

i mean thats not what it is at all....but i suppose some MA meathead could certainly think that....youd think one of the three people that would go plan something like this...dress like they did and use the weapons they did would have known exactly what they were attacking
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: ice grillin you on December 02, 2015, 07:00:43 PM
now one of these guys is supposedly loose and barricaded in a church
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: General_Failure on December 02, 2015, 07:01:53 PM
Has he asked for sanctuary?
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: ice grillin you on December 02, 2015, 07:04:00 PM
looks like the ghetto bird is over the church now
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: General_Failure on December 02, 2015, 07:06:42 PM
The War on Christmas is finally heating up.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: ice grillin you on December 02, 2015, 09:15:29 PM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CVRCRkiXAAAdXfJ.jpg)
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on December 02, 2015, 11:22:27 PM
Seriously. It's way past time to do something.

Stop the farging madness.

I was out tonight having some drinks with vendors and customers at Top Golf. I couldn't play bc of my arm so I'm bullshteinting with everyone. Group next to us is talking about this bc it as shown on the TVs. I said welcome to the new USA where we are renowned for mass shooting and one dude says "it's the price we pay for freedoms. I bet those who are dead wish they had a gun to defense themself"

Wtffffff
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on December 02, 2015, 11:27:02 PM
Oh and the GOP can farg off. Hate mongering NRA tit sucking iceholes
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on December 02, 2015, 11:36:24 PM
And another thing - the GOP candidates can tweet their thoughts and prayers now but when planned parenthood was getting smoked those corksuckers were silent.

Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: General_Failure on December 02, 2015, 11:37:08 PM
Mass Shootings Have Become More Common In The U.S. (http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/mass-shootings-have-become-more-common-in-the-u-s/?ex_cid=story-twitter)

QuoteMother Jones magazine gathered data on mass shootings for a 2012 investigation and has continued to update its list, counting 72 incidents from 1982 through Tuesday. The magazine uses relatively strict criteria — the incidents must occur in public places and can't involve gangs or robbery. The primary motive must be mass murder. Also, Mother Jones excludes incidents in which the shooter killed three people or fewer — meaning that its count doesn't include the shooting at a Colorado Springs Planned Parenthood clinic last week that killed three people. Events that fit the criteria are rare — the high in a single year was seven, in 2012. That means single large events have a big impact on the data, making it noisy. But the long-term trend is clear: There have been more total mass shooting incidents and deaths in the 11 years starting with 2005 than there were in the previous 23 years combined.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on December 03, 2015, 12:13:20 AM
Uh oh

Lead shooter had a Muslim name

Nevermind he was a US citizen. The righties are gonna be all over this
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on December 03, 2015, 12:45:04 AM
Third deadliest shooting in the last 20yrs in the USA

Gunzzzz

Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Eagaholic on February 22, 2016, 04:09:22 PM
QuoteOne of the seriously injured in the Kalamazoo attack, a 14-year-old girl, was believed to have been dead for more than hour when she squeezed her mother's hand as doctors were preparing to harvest her organs, police officer Dale Hinz told Michigan Live.
Pretty chilling. A girl the Uber driver shot.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Diomedes on February 22, 2016, 04:23:20 PM
How in the actual farg could they mistake her for dead, and only realize the mistake like that?  Jesus Christ.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: ice grillin you on February 22, 2016, 05:09:27 PM
no chance that story is true....its a great story but simply isn't real....good click bait tho
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Eagaholic on February 22, 2016, 09:42:06 PM
numerous outlets are reporting it including the wash post, nbc news and such. She had already been pronounced dead. Maybe they are all wrong though.

As far as your click bait theory, the bbc article I quoted was entitled Kalamazoo killings: US Uber driver charged over shooting spree
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: ice grillin you on February 23, 2016, 07:09:06 AM
lol at thinking a neat story is true because a major news outlet runs it
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Susquehanna Birder on February 23, 2016, 07:28:48 AM
Quote from: Eagaholic on February 22, 2016, 09:42:06 PM
numerous outlets are reporting it including the wash post, nbc news and such.

The problem is that one outlet publishes a story - correct or not - and then the rest of the copy-and-paste journalists jump on it. There is no accountability any more.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: ice grillin you on February 23, 2016, 07:55:49 AM
Quote from: Susquehanna Birder on February 23, 2016, 07:28:48 AM
Quote from: Eagaholic on February 22, 2016, 09:42:06 PM
numerous outlets are reporting it including the wash post, nbc news and such.

The problem is that one outlet publishes a story - correct or not - and then the rest of the copy-and-paste journalists jump on it. There is no accountability any more.

exactly
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Geowhizzer on February 25, 2016, 09:59:55 PM
Yep.  Another one.  Kansas. (http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/2016/02/25/reports-2-dead-hesston-kansas-workplace-shooting/80954886/)
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: General_Failure on May 16, 2016, 08:45:34 AM
2 people shot at high school graduation ceremony in Kansas (http://townhall.com/news/us/2016/05/15/2-people-shot-at-high-school-graduation-ceremony-in-kansas-n2163523)

QuoteAugusta Police Chief Tyler Brewer said Sunday afternoon that the shooting was accidental and described it as a "knucklehead situation." The bullet went through the man's foot and traveled about another 50 feet before striking a woman in her calf. The woman has been released from a Wichita hospital, while the man has been admitted with an injury that's not life-threatening.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: phattymatty on May 16, 2016, 10:10:35 AM
guarantee that douche was erect that morning as he went through all kinds of hero scenarios in his head.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Diomedes on June 12, 2016, 07:38:47 AM
Orlando now...just awful.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Rome on June 12, 2016, 08:26:52 AM
Hate crime too.  Happened in a gay club and they were specifically being targeted.  Of course the homophobes are out in full force celebrating right now, because, you know... God and shtein.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: ice grillin you on June 12, 2016, 08:55:43 AM
nm
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Rome on June 12, 2016, 09:55:04 AM
Omar Mateen has been identified as the murderer.  Evidently had been radicalized... shockeroony.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: General_Failure on June 12, 2016, 09:59:48 AM
Shame, if he was just a few shades lighter he could have been a troubled young man instead.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Diomedes on June 12, 2016, 10:18:48 AM
Can you imagine the cognitive dissonance currently being experienced by millions of fundamental christian americans today?

Dead gays good / muslim terrorism bad

I'd wager it settles out for most of them as a net gain and they'll have applebees after church and feel better about the world.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Rome on June 12, 2016, 10:22:12 AM
The usual nonsense is being spewed.  Ban Muslims, deport all non-Americans (even though this dipshtein WAS American)... blah, blah, blah.

Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on June 12, 2016, 11:34:40 AM
Oh another mass shooting? This one is now the worst ever.

I woke up to people I know in Orlando being marked safe on FB. Weird. So I looked and saw the news. And that was a mistake because of the ignorance of many.

"Libtards r afraid of saying Islamic terrorist!" Is the main sentiment being thrown around now

People defending owning ar-15

Trump is gonna politicize this and his people will latch on. Buckle up
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Diomedes on June 12, 2016, 11:54:26 AM
Wow, 50 dead.  Worst mass shooting in U.S. history. 

The Orlando gay community...my god they are going to need some love and help.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on June 12, 2016, 12:08:00 PM
I'm disgusted to read what the gun nuts are saying

Not shocked anymore though. This is now commonplace in the US. Nothing will ever be done. It wasn't enough when a school was shot up and little kids died.

Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Rome on June 12, 2016, 12:17:08 PM
I read something in particular this morning that made me want to throw up.  "What if one man was in there with a gun... would this have happened?"

Well, yes considering there was an off-duty Orlando cop in there doing security and he was one of the first to get shot.

Like Dio said, the right wing nuts out there are having a tough day because sinners got killed (yay!) and a suspected Muslim extremist killed them (boo!)...
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Rome on June 12, 2016, 12:33:10 PM
(https://scontent.ftpa1-2.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/13428652_1595927807103333_7725334090844701852_n.jpg?oh=845c543e00ce81fd82c2f3129c558f87&oe=57C7861B)

People are lining up to donate blood in Orlando.

Awesome.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on June 12, 2016, 12:41:49 PM
Quote from: Rome on June 12, 2016, 12:17:08 PM
I read something in particular this morning that made me want to throw up.  "What if one man was in there with a gun... would this have happened?"

Well, yes considering there was an off-duty Orlando cop in there doing security and he was one of the first to get shot.

Like Dio said, the right wing nuts out there are having a tough day because sinners got killed (yay!) and a suspected Muslim extremist killed them (boo!)...

The righties are all about the Muslim connection right now. And may God have mercy on your soul if you try to talk guns with them. It's not the guns fault! He was Isis and legally allowed to carry!

The Texas lt gov posted some bible verse this morning about reaping what you sow. It stayed up for five hours until finally deleted.

Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on June 12, 2016, 12:45:57 PM
What can people to to help?

Pray.

That was Rick Scott's response
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on June 12, 2016, 12:47:47 PM
http://trailblazersblog.dallasnews.com/2016/06/lt-gov-dan-patrick-condemned-for-scheduled-tweet-following-orlando-attack.html/

Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: ice grillin you on June 12, 2016, 12:55:29 PM
Quote@realDonaldTrump: Appreciate the congrats for being right on radical Islamic terrorism, I don't want congrats, I want toughness & vigilance. We must be smart!
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Rome on June 12, 2016, 01:00:47 PM
I say prayers every day about Rick Scott.   Considering he's still in office I'd say they're not being answered to my satisfaction.

#godsasleepattheswitch
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Rome on June 12, 2016, 01:04:33 PM
Trump's buffoonery is embarrassing.  This had nothing to do with that shteinhead's religion.  It was a hate crime specifically targeting LGBT's and he was an American citizen.  Not sure how being tough and vigilant would have stopped him from committing mass murder either.  Disgusting vile piece of shtein.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on June 12, 2016, 01:17:14 PM
News coming out now that dude called 911 prior to entering and claimed allegiance to the head of Isis

Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on June 12, 2016, 01:22:59 PM
http://www.latimes.com/la-me-ln-gay-pride-la-weapons-20160612-snap-story.html

Whoa...
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: ice grillin you on June 12, 2016, 01:52:53 PM
Quote from: Rome on June 12, 2016, 01:00:47 PM
I say prayers every day about Rick Scott.   Considering he's still in office I'd say they're not being answered to my satisfaction.

#godsasleepattheswitch

50 dead and its still about him...and his voters think he cares about them
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Geowhizzer on June 12, 2016, 02:12:52 PM
Quote from: Diomedes on June 12, 2016, 10:18:48 AM
Can you imagine the cognitive dissonance currently being experienced by millions of fundamental christian americans today?

Dead gays good / muslim terrorism bad

I'd wager it settles out for most of them as a net gain and they'll have applebees after church and feel better about the world.

Sadly, that is true about a number of people I have known.  Not the majority, but more than a few.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Geowhizzer on June 12, 2016, 02:13:20 PM
Quote from: Rome on June 12, 2016, 01:00:47 PM
I say prayers every day about Rick Scott.   Considering he's still in office alive I'd say they're not being answered to my satisfaction.

#godsasleepattheswitch
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on June 12, 2016, 02:19:22 PM
"This is an act of terrorism and hate" - Obama

"But he didn't say Islamic terrorism! He's taking our guns! We want Trump!" - mouth breathing idiots

I'm angry as farg. I'm sick of this shtein happening. I'm tired of the ignorance and politics. Why can't there be any civil discourse about the guns AND terrorism?
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: ice grillin you on June 12, 2016, 02:33:54 PM
rich white little kids got slaughtered and nothing happened...that was the time when any hope of real gun control vanished forever
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Geowhizzer on June 12, 2016, 02:43:27 PM
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on June 12, 2016, 02:19:22 PM
"This is an act of terrorism and hate" - Obama

"But he didn't say Islamic terrorism! He's taking our guns! We want Trump!" - mouth breathing idiots

I'm angry as farg. I'm sick of this shtein happening. I'm tired of the ignorance and politics. Why can't there be any civil discourse about the guns AND terrorism?

Right now, this nation doesn't seem to be able to have much civil discourse about anything.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on June 12, 2016, 02:47:13 PM
You're both right.

When people ignored Sandy Hook (and some sickos still deny this happened for chrissakes!) the hope for any gun control ended. Over.

And now the screechers are saying how it's Islam that's the problem not guns. Oh. Well was it an Islamic fellow who did the sandy hook, aurora and charleston killings?

Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: ice grillin you on June 12, 2016, 02:55:44 PM
dooks ex wife has said he wasn't even religious
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on June 12, 2016, 03:25:14 PM
Think that'll stop the narrative?

The pledging of allegiance to Isis is going to be front and center.

What should be front and farging center is the fact this dude was investigated by the FBI twice and get was still allowed to have a license to carry and purchase weapons.

And why was he allowed to buy weapons?

Because the GOP struck down the farging bill to close that option to buy weapons for people on government watch lists!

But yeah...not about guns.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on June 12, 2016, 03:40:25 PM
http://occupydemocrats.com/2016/06/12/hypocrites-republicans-offering-prayers-accepting-money-nra/

Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on June 12, 2016, 04:33:34 PM
http://gawker.com/fox-news-commentator-blames-orlando-shooting-on-obama-1781846874?utm_campaign=socialflow_gawker_twitter&utm_source=gawker_twitter&utm_medium=socialflow

Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Rome on June 12, 2016, 05:03:49 PM
That didn't take long. 
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: MDS on June 12, 2016, 05:53:57 PM
twitter is often a repugnant place but its especially vile and gross right now....ugly country full of ugly people that deserve trump
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on June 12, 2016, 05:54:33 PM
I don't believe the jerkoff who planned to get after the LA Pride Parade is Muslim. He had a farging arsenal.

Where's the "guns ain't a problem it's them damn mooslims" fargups at?
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Rome on June 12, 2016, 06:17:40 PM
I just let the local hick reporter at Fox News Orlando have it with the "I can't understand what's happening in 'our' country bullshtein."

It's guns you farging dipshtein.  Assault weapons are why these massacres keep happening.  Gutless bought and paid for farging politicians who take blood money from the NRA to look the other way are why this keeps happening.

Oh, and cram your thoughts and prayers for the victims up your asses too.  This isn't a tragedy.  A tragedy is a train derailment or a plane crash.  This was entirely preventable and it's on you motherfargers.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: ice grillin you on June 12, 2016, 06:22:14 PM
where was today's outrage from the right after the racist massacre in Charleston
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on June 12, 2016, 06:23:24 PM
Yep.

The thoughts and prayers from the GOPers ring hollow

Some dude on Twitter is RTing every politician who offered a prayers tweet with the amount of money they've taken from the NRA
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Munson on June 12, 2016, 06:56:51 PM
The first victims names to be released are all hispanic sounding too. That'll be yet another interesting aspect to how this evolves. Wonder if the righteous anger from the right wing dies out faster when we find out all 50 of them were hispanic. 50 gay "illegals" dying at the hands of a gun, or islamic terrorism. Interesting dynamic.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: General_Failure on June 12, 2016, 07:05:10 PM
Quote from: Munson on June 12, 2016, 06:56:51 PM
The first victims names to be released are all hispanic sounding too. That'll be yet another interesting aspect to how this evolves. Wonder if the righteous anger from the right wing dies out faster when we find out all 50 of them were hispanic. 50 gay "illegals" dying at the hands of a gun, or islamic terrorism. Interesting dynamic.

They were having a Latino Night.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: ice grillin you on June 12, 2016, 07:20:30 PM
lol Munson this many years later continues to be a cranial lump
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on June 12, 2016, 09:20:08 PM
I meant to post this the other day but how true is this only a couple days later

http://www.pbs.org/newshour/bb/obama-to-gun-owners-im-not-looking-to-disarm-you/
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: ice grillin you on June 13, 2016, 01:51:39 AM
http://thinkprogress.org/justice/2016/06/12/3787581/obama-haunting-confrontation-pro-gun-activist-just-days-orlando-massacre/
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on June 13, 2016, 02:14:25 AM
Looks familiar
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Munson on June 13, 2016, 10:41:42 AM
Quote from: General_Failure on June 12, 2016, 07:05:10 PM
Quote from: Munson on June 12, 2016, 06:56:51 PM
The first victims names to be released are all hispanic sounding too. That'll be yet another interesting aspect to how this evolves. Wonder if the righteous anger from the right wing dies out faster when we find out all 50 of them were hispanic. 50 gay "illegals" dying at the hands of a gun, or islamic terrorism. Interesting dynamic.

They were having a Latino Night.

lol....my point is, it'll be fun to watch the right wing anger over this 'terrorist attack' die out as it comes out that 'real americans' weren't the victims.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: General_Failure on June 13, 2016, 01:07:05 PM
It'll be glossed over that they were Latino or gay, and that the shooter was born here. The narrative is that a Radical Muslim killed Americans.

Quote from: ice grillin you on June 13, 2016, 01:51:39 AM
http://thinkprogress.org/justice/2016/06/12/3787581/obama-haunting-confrontation-pro-gun-activist-just-days-orlando-massacre/

So what you're telling me is that as the Obama Regime is in its death throes he's announcing his Jihad and spitting in the face of good, honest, Christian Americans.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Rome on June 13, 2016, 01:43:13 PM
I said this this morning to my Neanderthal collegues:

"Remember the last time An American bigot slaughtered other Americans?

His name was Tim McVeigh."

*** silence ***
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: ice grillin you on June 13, 2016, 03:32:38 PM
Quote from: Rome on June 13, 2016, 01:43:13 PM
I said this this morning to my Neanderthal collegues:

"Remember the last time An American bigot slaughtered other Americans?

His name was Tim McVeigh."

*** silence ***

it was actually Dylan roof rome
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Rome on June 13, 2016, 04:47:03 PM
True but they actually know who McVeigh was.  Gotta play to the level of the audience.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: ice grillin you on June 13, 2016, 04:56:30 PM
ugh

fair but depressing point
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Rome on June 13, 2016, 04:58:56 PM
Trump is now accusing Obama of being a traitor.

LOL
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: ice grillin you on June 13, 2016, 05:14:02 PM
let him keep doing that....he has zero chance to win
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on June 13, 2016, 06:23:50 PM
http://bigstory.ap.org/d9adf457747446498991b7549fd1f4fa

And he's yanked WaPo's press credentials from his campaign

What a funhole
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on June 13, 2016, 06:42:09 PM
http://www.commercialappeal.com/news/government/state/tennessee-rep-holt-to-give-away-ar-15-at-fundraiser-352f00e2-f4cc-176a-e053-0100007fb102-382739961.html?d=mobile
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: MDS on June 13, 2016, 07:20:18 PM
aaaaaaaaaaaand he was gay

http://gawker.com/orlando-shooter-was-reportedly-a-regular-at-pulse-and-h-1781920316
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: ice grillin you on June 13, 2016, 07:25:07 PM
this couldn't be less of a terror attack....but ISIS!

the media including the liberal media is a travesty right now
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Rome on June 13, 2016, 07:43:20 PM
There's several liberal outlets that are worthy of praise here for keeping their eye on the ball, dude.   I agree about the MSM, though.   They're absolutely revolting.

Also - speaking of the media, I keep wondering where a man like this who says things like this is right now:

QuoteNo one familiar with the history of this country can deny that congressional committees are useful. It is necessary to investigate before legislating, but the line between investigating and persecuting is a very fine one and the junior Senator from Wisconsin has stepped over it repeatedly. His primary achievement has been in confusing the public mind, as between the internal and the external threats of Communism. We must not confuse dissent with disloyalty. We must remember always that accusation is not proof and that conviction depends upon evidence and due process of law. We will not walk in fear, one of another. We will not be driven by fear into an age of unreason, if we dig deep in our history and our doctrine, and remember that we are not descended from fearful men -- not from men who feared to write, to speak, to associate and to defend causes that were, for the moment, unpopular.

This is no time for men who oppose Senator McCarthy's methods to keep silent, or for those who approve. We can deny our heritage and our history, but we cannot escape responsibility for the result. There is no way for a citizen of a republic to abdicate his responsibilities. As a nation we have come into our full inheritance at a tender age. We proclaim ourselves, as indeed we are, the defenders of freedom, wherever it continues to exist in the world, but we cannot defend freedom abroad by deserting it at home.

The actions of the junior Senator from Wisconsin have caused alarm and dismay amongst our allies abroad, and given considerable comfort to our enemies. And whose fault is that? Not really his. He didn't create this situation of fear; he merely exploited it -- and rather successfully. Cassius was right. "The fault, dear Brutus, is not in our stars, but in ourselves."

Good night, and good luck.

Because we could sure as farg use one with a rabid mongrel like Trump running loose.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on June 13, 2016, 07:49:28 PM
So he used religion as a reason and it wasn't even it

Hook line and sinker for a lot of the idiots all in on radical Islam

Say radical! Oh! No? Coward!
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: ice grillin you on June 13, 2016, 07:51:05 PM
Quote from: Rome on June 13, 2016, 07:43:20 PM

QuoteNo one familiar with the history of this country can deny that congressional committees are useful. It is necessary to investigate before legislating, but the line between investigating and persecuting is a very fine one and the junior Senator from Wisconsin has stepped over it repeatedly. His primary achievement has been in confusing the public mind, as between the internal and the external threats of Communism. We must not confuse dissent with disloyalty. We must remember always that accusation is not proof and that conviction depends upon evidence and due process of law. We will not walk in fear, one of another. We will not be driven by fear into an age of unreason, if we dig deep in our history and our doctrine, and remember that we are not descended from fearful men -- not from men who feared to write, to speak, to associate and to defend causes that were, for the moment, unpopular.

This is no time for men who oppose Senator McCarthy's methods to keep silent, or for those who approve. We can deny our heritage and our history, but we cannot escape responsibility for the result. There is no way for a citizen of a republic to abdicate his responsibilities. As a nation we have come into our full inheritance at a tender age. We proclaim ourselves, as indeed we are, the defenders of freedom, wherever it continues to exist in the world, but we cannot defend freedom abroad by deserting it at home.

The actions of the junior Senator from Wisconsin have caused alarm and dismay amongst our allies abroad, and given considerable comfort to our enemies. And whose fault is that? Not really his. He didn't create this situation of fear; he merely exploited it -- and rather successfully. Cassius was right. "The fault, dear Brutus, is not in our stars, but in ourselves."

Good night, and good luck.

Because we could sure as farg use one with a rabid mongrel like Trump running loose.

amen
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on June 13, 2016, 07:57:37 PM
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/gun-stocks-shoot-upward-orlando-shooting-article-1.2671638?cid=bitly

Shoulda bought stock
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: General_Failure on June 13, 2016, 08:07:08 PM
If you're going to, just do it now. There's always going to be another shooting to get FOX News making people worry that them liberals are gonna take their guns.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on June 13, 2016, 08:20:13 PM
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/pulse-orlando-nightclub-shooting/os-orlando-nightclub-omar-mateen-profile-20160613-story.html

You're right tho GF I should lol

And I want to hear the repubs who spent all day yesterday schreeching about radical Islam walk their shtein back
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: ice grillin you on June 13, 2016, 08:35:24 PM
farg gays and guns its all about muslims
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on June 13, 2016, 08:44:15 PM
http://m.tmz.com/#article/2016/06/13/orlando-shooting-snapchat-inside-pulse/

This girl was eventually killed

Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Rome on June 13, 2016, 08:58:16 PM
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on June 13, 2016, 08:20:13 PM
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/pulse-orlando-nightclub-shooting/os-orlando-nightclub-omar-mateen-profile-20160613-story.html

You're right tho GF I should lol

And I want to hear the repubs who spent all day yesterday schreeching about radical Islam walk their shtein back

I'd especially like to hear from the Log Cabin Republicans who are strangely silent now after demanding President Obama cite radical Islam as the impetus here.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on June 13, 2016, 09:08:22 PM
Quote from: Rome on June 13, 2016, 08:58:16 PM
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on June 13, 2016, 08:20:13 PM
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/pulse-orlando-nightclub-shooting/os-orlando-nightclub-omar-mateen-profile-20160613-story.html

You're right tho GF I should lol

And I want to hear the repubs who spent all day yesterday schreeching about radical Islam walk their shtein back

I'd especially like to hear from the Log Cabin Republicans who are strangely silent now after demanding President Obama cite radical Islam as the impetus here.

I'm oddly amused by their insistence that they term is mentioned as if it's some cure all. Say the phrase and all the bad men go away?
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Diomedes on June 14, 2016, 06:34:42 AM
You can't kill 50 people with a blunderbuss.

The 2nd amendment has been made irrelevant by technology. 

The founders could not have imagined the killing power that would become available to every idiot who wants it, and would not have allowed it.



Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: ice grillin you on June 14, 2016, 06:43:17 AM
so trump has accused the president of the United States of somehow being behind the murders and has said the killer was "born in afghan"

if Mitch McConnell and Paul Ryan don't come out today against a trump candidacy then they need to resign...this is a disgrace to our country

Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Rome on June 14, 2016, 06:58:13 AM
They haven't so far.  Why would they now?   McConnell has blood on his hands now and they're not altering the seven years old game plan.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: ice grillin you on June 14, 2016, 07:10:15 AM
forget the Obama accusation which is a disqualifyer right off the bat

he said the shooter was "born in afghan"...first of all what the farg is afghan and secondly he was born in the same god damn city you were...how are you a presidential candidate and have a prepared speech after the worst mass shooting in the country's history and have blatant wrong information in it

how farging pathetic do we look to the rest of the world...we are truly thru the looking glass now and it's really ugly
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on June 14, 2016, 08:27:45 AM
Quote from: ice grillin you on June 14, 2016, 07:10:15 AM
forget the Obama accusation which is a disqualifyer right off the bat

he said the shooter was "born in afghan"...first of all what the farg is afghan and secondly he was born in the same god damn city you were...how are you a presidential candidate and have a prepared speech after the worst mass shooting in the country's history and have blatant wrong information in it

how farging pathetic do we look to the rest of the world...we are truly thru the looking glass now and it's really ugly

Yep that's what I was saying last night - he's dangerous. He's knowingly lying to stoke the flames of his racist base and no one on his side is calling him on it. His aides are even saying Obama is involved
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: ice grillin you on June 14, 2016, 08:33:19 AM
I don't even care if people say or think it...there were knuckleheads who thought bush and the cia was behind 9-11....but it was a handful of dopes on the internet...in a few months this farging guy is going to get ten of millions of votes for president of the united states

what is happening
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: General_Failure on June 14, 2016, 08:36:54 AM
The natural evolution of playing to your base.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Rome on June 14, 2016, 08:52:25 AM
I had a colleague accuse Obama of the same nonsense yesterday.  They're just parroting what Trump is spewing.  Yeah it's gross and really depressing but it's hardly news.  The GOP has been stoking this fire for years now.  What with the birther shtein, the thinly veiled racist rhetoric, the abject disrespect they show the President... it's all symptomatic of a greater ill that's been at the heart of their plan all along.   They know the base eats it up and everyone else is either too shocked or apathetic to do a damn thing about it.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: ice grillin you on June 14, 2016, 10:57:36 AM
"born in afghan"

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Ck6vr5_VEAAD6Jc.jpg:large)
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Geowhizzer on June 14, 2016, 11:17:06 AM
I'm all for building a wall around New York...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ckvDo2JHB7o
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: ice grillin you on June 14, 2016, 11:27:37 AM
whoa

QuoteNBC NEWS EXCLUSIVE: Wife of Orlando shooter has told FBI that she tried to talk her husband out of the attack and is cooperating sources say
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: General_Failure on June 14, 2016, 12:15:13 PM
"Honey, I'm gonna go shoot up all them sexy queers that I'm totally not blowing on the weekends."

"No, don't do it. But if you do, I'm not calling the cops to maybe save some lives or anything."
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on June 14, 2016, 02:55:39 PM
Another incident in Amarillo WalMart??
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Geowhizzer on June 14, 2016, 04:22:24 PM
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on June 14, 2016, 02:55:39 PM
Another incident in Amarillo WalMart??

Not possible.  All the good guys in Texas carrying guns wouldn't let that happen.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: General_Failure on June 14, 2016, 04:33:54 PM
They got rid of the holsters on their mobility scooters to put in another cup holder.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on June 14, 2016, 04:43:15 PM
lol

True on both statements.

Depressing shtein.

And it seems it has been verified that the Orlando nut was indeed gay. But hey...MOOOOOOOSLIM EXTREMISM!
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: General_Failure on June 14, 2016, 04:53:57 PM
Dude, he totally wasn't gay. He just hung out in a gay bar for three years because he's so hetero. Just the thought of all them dudes rubbing their toned, oiled bodies together made him stiff. With rage, obviously. Hard, throbbing rage.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Rome on June 14, 2016, 04:56:37 PM
Paging Chuggie...
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on June 14, 2016, 06:48:17 PM
So Barry got pissed and had a nice little presser today eh?

I need to see this
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: SD on June 14, 2016, 07:01:32 PM
http://www.cnn.com/2016/06/14/politics/obama-pushes-back-against-criticism-over-terrorism-rhetoric/
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Rome on June 14, 2016, 07:11:06 PM
It's not every day you're called a traitorous terrorist sympathizer.  I'm surprised (and more than a little disappointed) Barry hasn't completely lost his shtein with that tangerine motherfarger.  The gloves did come off, though. 
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: MDS on June 14, 2016, 09:03:43 PM
sam bee doing work. watch. get angry. you should be angry.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t88X1pYQu-I
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on June 15, 2016, 12:26:07 AM
Holy shtein at that Rubio quip about it could happen anywhere in the world and Orlando just happened to have its turn
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Yeti on June 15, 2016, 01:25:02 AM
Shooting at a gay club.  Talk about a soft target.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: General_Failure on June 15, 2016, 10:22:57 AM
Teen girl killed, 3 others injured in downtown Oakland shooting (http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2016/06/15/6-shot-downtown-oakland-one-grave-condition/85908100/)

QuoteA teenage girl died and three others were injured Tuesday night in downtown Oakland, police said.

The 16-year-old, who was listed in critical condition, later died at the hospital. The other three victims in the shooting are in stable condition, the San Francisco Chronicle reported.

The victims range in age from mid-teens to early 20s, the Associated Press reported. They were attending a vigil two blocks away for someone who drowned in Salinas, Calif. It's unclear if the shooting is connected to the memorial gathering.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: smeags on June 22, 2016, 01:55:42 PM
http://6abc.com/news/man-claims-orlando-shooter-was-his-gay-lover/1396258/ (http://6abc.com/news/man-claims-orlando-shooter-was-his-gay-lover/1396258/)

Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: General_Failure on July 11, 2016, 03:51:59 PM
County employee: At least 3 people dead in shooting at Berrien courthouse (http://www.wzzm13.com/news/crime/shots-fired-at-berrien-county-courthouse/269776304)

QuoteST. JOSEPH, MICH. - At least three people are dead at the Berrien County Courthouse following a shooting, an employee at the county prosecutor's office said.

Three people are dead and one person is injured, said the employee, who wished not to be named. Michigan State Police confirmed the shooting around 2:30 p.m. Monday, July 11.

Two of the people dead are court bailiffs. The other person dead is the shooter, the employee said.

State police have not confirmed those numbers nor the status of the shooter.

The employee at the prosecutor's office said the courthouse is under lockdown, and employees are being kept in their offices.

A Berrien County Commissioner told WZZM's ABC affiliate WBND reporter Vahid Sadrzadeh on scene that a man who was on his way to jail took a gun off a deputy and started opening fire.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on July 11, 2016, 05:00:40 PM
Another day in the USA

Nothing to see here
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Diomedes on July 11, 2016, 05:40:07 PM
Repeal the 2nd Amendment.  Confiscate the guns.  Imprison those who don't comply.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Diomedes on July 17, 2016, 02:25:03 PM
Baton Rouge cops ambushed.  3 dead, more injured. 

Good luck finding anyone to be a cop anymore. 

Time to find different work. 

Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: MDS on July 17, 2016, 03:01:17 PM
dont you have multiple guns
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Diomedes on July 17, 2016, 03:30:42 PM
I had a Browning Hi-Power, but gave it to a friend rather than fight with my wife about it.

I was scared at last year's riots and talked a big game about buying a shotgun, but realized once the fear subsided that I don't actually want one.  What the farg am I gonna do with a shotgun? 

So no, I have no guns.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Rome on July 17, 2016, 03:45:37 PM
I have several but I would gladly give them up if everyone else did. 
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: MDS on July 17, 2016, 06:49:10 PM
set an example and throw them in the trash romey
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: General_Failure on July 17, 2016, 08:01:05 PM
If he did that someone in a truck full of broken washing machines and two giant confederate flags behind the cab would just pick them up, and then they'd have even more guns.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Rome on July 17, 2016, 08:52:23 PM
I have a 12 gauge shotgun that has been in my family since my grandfather's day and I have a Glock .40.  The shotgun is an heirloom and my pistol is for my family's protection.  I have a concealed weapons permit from my days in private practice and the pistol is in a safe with a gun lock on it.  If things get bad I at least have a decent chance at protecting my family.  I'm not Rambo and I'm not some macho schmuck who gets off on killing shtein or shooting holes in target pictures of Muslims.  I'm a responsible gun owner, but again, I would give them up if we had a nation-wide consensus on it.  We don't so I'll keep them, thanks.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on July 18, 2016, 01:30:19 AM
I wonder how long until all the thoughts and prayers solves this gun/shooting problem?

Maybe we need more buildings lit up to show support? Or collections of tweets?

I mean this is what the solutions are right? Not legislation or constructive meetings.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: General_Failure on July 25, 2016, 09:50:37 AM
Fort Myers club shooting: 2 dead, 14 injured outside teen party (http://www.cnn.com/2016/07/25/us/fort-myers-nightclub-shooting/index.html)

QuoteA shooting outside a Florida nightclub's teen party left two people dead and more than a dozen wounded, officials said.

Fort Myers police have not released the names or ages of those killed. But Lee Memorial Hospital said it received 16 people, ages 12 to 27, with injuries ranging from minor to life-threatening.
The shooting took place around 12:30 a.m. Monday in the parking lot of Club Blu Bar and Grill, police said.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Geowhizzer on July 25, 2016, 12:25:57 PM
Saw that story this morning.  This one sure hits close to home - the victims may include students from my school.

Terrorism has been ruled out.

Local coverage. (http://www.winknews.com/2016/07/25/developing-gunshots-heard-large-deputy-presence-at-fort-myers-nightclub/)
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: smeags on September 28, 2016, 03:31:56 PM
Quotefrom cnn - Two children and a teacher shot at elementary school in Townville, SC, county official says. Teenage suspect in custody.

Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Sgt PSN on September 28, 2016, 03:36:14 PM
If only the children had guns to protect themselves.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: smeags on November 28, 2016, 11:51:42 AM
been a while ... but - OSU.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Rome on November 28, 2016, 12:49:56 PM
Harbaugh?
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: smeags on November 28, 2016, 01:05:30 PM
that was inappropriate romey.


:-D
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Geowhizzer on November 28, 2016, 01:09:02 PM
Seems like the suspect didn't have a gun. (http://www.cnn.com/2016/11/28/us/ohio-state-university-active-shooter/index.html)
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on November 28, 2016, 05:41:40 PM
Somali refugee and mulism...reportedly.

Oh great.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Diomedes on November 28, 2016, 10:03:03 PM
See, it's not just guns.  You can kill a lot of people with kni.....

Oh, what.  None dead? 

Focus on the Muslim part.  And if that doesn't float, trot out a doctor to say he's crazy.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: General_Failure on November 28, 2016, 10:11:53 PM
Don't worry, the Muslim part will stick.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on November 28, 2016, 11:22:48 PM
Donald will save us, guys. Relax.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: SD on January 06, 2017, 01:28:49 PM
9 injured in a shooting at the Fort Lauderdale airport.

Gunz
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on January 06, 2017, 02:16:31 PM
Quote from: SD on January 06, 2017, 01:28:49 PM
9 injured in a shooting at the Fort Lauderdale airport.

Gunz

I announced it to the office with a "USA" chant and a Trumper's response was "well if they stopped letting all THOSE people in this wouldn't happen"

Oh.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Rome on January 06, 2017, 02:23:38 PM
You mean humans?   I gotta agree there.  They're the worstest. 
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on January 06, 2017, 02:44:10 PM
the dude @igorvolsky on twitter, anytime these shootings happen, finds the GOPers who have taken NRA money and retweets their #thoughtsandprayers pointless tweets
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on January 06, 2017, 06:20:01 PM
Romeys homie Rick Scott called the Fuhrer and pence and not Obama

Asked why

"Today's not the day to be political"
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on January 06, 2017, 06:53:32 PM
http://www.nj.com/news/index.ssf/2017/01/ft_lauderdale_airport_shooting_suspect_he_went_to.html
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: MDS on January 06, 2017, 07:19:45 PM
zzzzzzzzzzzz

20 children were massacred in their classroom and nothing happened. nothing will ever happen. 
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Rome on January 06, 2017, 07:33:58 PM
Pence literally scares the living shtein out of me.  I'm not kidding either.  I hear him speak and I get the creeping terrors.

Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Diomedes on January 06, 2017, 10:36:07 PM
When you hear Pence speak, you shtein yourself?  Is that what you're saying?
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on January 07, 2017, 01:44:28 AM
Quote from: MDS on January 06, 2017, 07:19:45 PM
zzzzzzzzzzzz

20 children were massacred in their classroom and nothing happened. nothing will ever happen.

And some people deny it happened!

But yeah if that day/incident didn't change anything then we never will see it change
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on January 07, 2017, 02:57:04 AM
"The citizens of Florida will not tolerate senseless acts of evil," Scott said. "I just can't imagine how this ever happened in a state like ours"

Oh really? I mean just several months ago we had a mass shooting in your state, pal. Rather than offering up hollow thoughts and prayers how about fixing the farging problems?

The shooter checked his gun in his luggage - which consisted of just a gun - and decided to hop a flight. Curious as to how he ended up picking Florida as his final destination.

But the dude walked into the FBI offices some months ago and told them he was being forced to join ISIS amongst other wacked out things. And yet he was still allowed to possess a firearm. He served in Iraq and had issues after returning.

Mental health services in this country suck. More important to protect the gunzzzz!

Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: ice grillin you on January 07, 2017, 05:46:02 AM
the prototype stand your ground state cant imagine terrible things happening there.....nice
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Rome on January 07, 2017, 07:11:44 AM
Stand your ground isn't a bad theory, IGY.  For instance, if someone breaks into your house and your family is at risk, SYG allows you to kill the farg out of them without worrying about being thrown in jail for protecting your family.  It's actually a common sense measure to combat out of control violence in this society being perpetrated against innocent people.

Where it goes wrong is with the gun bullshtein.  SYG, like all other legal principles, has been manipulated and corrupted and turned into the heaping pile of shtein that it is now.  That's why you have lawyers getting scum like George Zimmerman off by using the statute as a defensive lynch pin.

We had a break-in several years ago.  icehole walked right into my garage and started rifling through shtein.  The only reason he's alive today is because I confronted him and informed him that I was armed and ready to farg up his life forever.   If he had taken a step towards me, he was dead as farg.  Thankfully for both of us he took off.  The cops arrested him a block from my house and when they searched his backpack, they found he was in possession of a Bowie knife.  It wasn't in plain sight and although he busted into my house and I felt he was a threat to my family, if I had shot his ass, a case could have been made against me for killing him if not for stand your ground. 

Stand your ground more often than not protects innocent victims, plain and simple.   Of course you'll disagree and that's fine.  I'm fine with that and I'm also fine knowing that the state prosecutor isn't coming after me for defending myself and my family.

As for Scott, he's a titanic piece of shtein.  I have nothing but contempt for him and his ilk.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Rome on January 07, 2017, 07:14:18 AM
Quote from: Diomedes on January 06, 2017, 10:36:07 PM
When you hear Pence speak, you shtein yourself?  Is that what you're saying?

Well, I usually make it to the commode.  Usually.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: ice grillin you on January 07, 2017, 07:21:00 AM
Quote from: Rome on January 07, 2017, 07:11:44 AM
Stand your ground isn't a bad theory, IGY.  For instance, if someone breaks into your house and your family is at risk, SYG allows you to kill the farg out of them without worrying about being thrown in jail for protecting your family.  It's actually a common sense measure to combat out of control violence in this society being perpetrated against innocent people.


in every state if someone breaks into your house you can shoot someone to protect your family or yourself...stand your ground doesnt do shtein except let people get away with murder
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Rome on January 07, 2017, 09:52:10 AM
That's just factually inaccurate.  Whatever though.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Sgt PSN on January 07, 2017, 10:13:31 AM
I think Havas is confusing SYG and Castle Doctrine, which I beleive every state does have in some form.  Also, about 1/3 of US States have Duty to Retreat laws, which require people to avoid defending themselves and to flee whenever possible.  23 states currently have a SYG law.

SYG laws aren't so much there to protect a person during a home invasion....that's Castle Doctrine.... but while out and about in the general community. Where those laws are really clouded, as in the Trayvon Martin case,  is that an unarmed individual was killed during an altercation and Zimmerman was armed. This contradicts Escalation of Force protocols, which call for a response of force equal to or slightly stronger than your attacker. Basically, it means that you don't respond to a fist with a gun.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Rome on January 07, 2017, 10:33:01 AM
Being afraid to defend yourself in your own home is disgusting.  farg that.  If someone enters my home with an intent to hurt me or my family or take my shtein, they're going out feet first.   I'm not saying that to be a macho icehole either.  I would never want that to happen, but if it does, I'm glad that I live in a place where a prosecutor isn't going to come after me for defending myself.

There's a lot of things wrong with this farged up state but SYG isn't one of them.  At least the principle isn't.  It could definitely use some tweaking, though.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Diomedes on January 07, 2017, 10:53:48 AM
Stand your ground is terrible policy. The idea that, on top of allowing just about anyone who isn't a felon to carry guns, we would permit their use if the shooter contends he was afraid of the scary person he shot in the parking lot, is madness.  The result of the policy is more shooting, more killing, more division, more resentment, more fear, and more hatred.  Without stand your ground, Zimmerman is in prison where he belongs.  We don't need laws that co-sign macho-fearful bullshtein like Zimmerman, or the disaster fantasy circlejerk of what you'd do to someone who threatened you.  With a policy like that, you've given people encouragement to engage in confrontations because they have a good chance of getting to off someone legally.   It's deplorable.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: ice grillin you on January 08, 2017, 12:59:55 PM
^^^^
per usual on such matters dio is on point...and per usual he says it better than i ever could
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on April 10, 2017, 02:19:55 PM
Been awhile...can't wait to hear what president fargo has to say about this one

school shooting in San Bernardino
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on April 10, 2017, 02:23:36 PM
Being reported as two dead and four injured and an apparent murder-suicide.

At an elementary school.

Da fuq
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: hbionic on April 10, 2017, 02:26:26 PM
My client's daughter would have gone there if she hadn't sold this past year.

farging people man.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Tomahawk on April 11, 2017, 09:18:01 AM
You saved her life, herobionic!
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on April 11, 2017, 11:27:47 AM
This was barely even a blip in the news yesterday.

Ho-hum.

The American way!
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Geowhizzer on June 05, 2017, 10:11:54 AM
Apparently another "multiple fatalities" shooting in Orlando. (http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-40162989?ocid=socialflow_facebook&ns_mchannel=social&ns_campaign=bbcnews&ns_source=facebook) 

This week is the first anniversary of the shooting in the Pulse nightclub.  Don't know that they're related, but can't help but think they might be.

Update:  Being called a workplace shooting with no link to terrorism.  Five dead, according to CNN. (http://www.cnn.com/2017/06/05/us/orlando-fatalities/index.html)
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Rome on June 05, 2017, 11:41:09 AM
Not even a blip on the radar. 
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on June 05, 2017, 12:18:33 PM
Maybe we can have that gun debate that The Fuhrer wants now?

You know...how another shooting happened in the USA? What if this shooter had a knife like in London? I guess companies should be handing out pistols with their new hire employee handbooks?
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Susquehanna Birder on June 05, 2017, 12:47:21 PM
Maybe we need a "mass killing with cars and knives" thread.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: ice grillin you on June 14, 2017, 10:44:16 AM
Shooter identified by law enforcement officials as James T. Hodgkinson

The shooter at the GOP congressional baseball practice this morning is James T. Hodgkinson of Belleville, Ill., according to law enforcement officials. Hodgkinson, 66, owns a home inspection business. His home inspection license expired in November 2016 and was not renewed, state records show.

Hodgkinson was charged in April 2006 with battery and aiding damage to a motor vehicle, according to online records in St. Clair County, Illinois. The charges were dismissed, records show.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: ice grillin you on June 14, 2017, 12:51:08 PM
now at least 5 shot and 2 dead in san fran
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Geowhizzer on June 29, 2017, 11:13:48 AM
(http://pocho.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/12/cucaisisthreats.jpg)
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on June 30, 2017, 04:23:53 PM
Ho hum

Just another day in the USA

Mass shooting at a Bronx hospital
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: SD on July 01, 2017, 08:02:44 AM
17 people shot at a nightclub in Little Rock Arkansas
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on July 02, 2017, 12:20:59 AM
I know I've been out and about all day but first I heard of it

Ho hum another day in the good ol USA
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Diomedes on July 02, 2017, 08:07:55 AM
How do you shoot 25 people and they all survive?   This guy ought to be ashamed of himself.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: hbionic on October 02, 2017, 03:30:59 AM
Vegas.

Now thinking about it...is it normal for the bomb squad to be walking through the stadium hallways during a football game?
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on October 02, 2017, 07:03:11 AM
This Vegas shooting is the biggest in our history

50 dead and 200 injured.

64yr old dude sat in a room at Mandalay Bay and picked people off down below

Thoughts and prayers brigade will be out in force today. But no pols will address gun control
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on October 02, 2017, 07:06:30 AM
https://mobile.twitter.com/MikeLoftus_/status/914745121865793537?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fs9e.github.io%2Fiframe%2Ftwitter.min.html%23914745121865793537

Oh my god
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Rome on October 02, 2017, 07:56:10 AM
Total farging insanity. 

Guns. 
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: MDS on October 02, 2017, 09:14:25 AM
thoughts and prayers to everyone in las vegas
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Geowhizzer on October 02, 2017, 09:56:00 AM
Don't forget some Facebook profile picture thing.  Gotta remember the victims!  For at least the next five minutes...
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Rome on October 02, 2017, 10:12:37 AM
If only Nevada was an open carry state.

Oh wait...
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: smeags on October 02, 2017, 10:22:11 AM
I thought all the fans at country concerts were packing ?
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Tomahawk on October 02, 2017, 12:58:00 PM
Insightful article on gun violence in the US  (http://www.theonion.com/article/no-way-prevent-says-only-nation-where-regularly-ha-57086)
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on October 02, 2017, 01:17:42 PM
Quote from: Geowhizzer on October 02, 2017, 09:56:00 AM
Don't forget some Facebook profile picture thing.  Gotta remember the victims!  For at least the next five minutes...

And hash tags

Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on October 02, 2017, 01:19:25 PM
Quote from: Rome on October 02, 2017, 10:12:37 AM
If only Nevada was an open carry state.

Oh wait...

Trips me out hearing the gun nuts talking about this. Oh ok they want the famous "good guy with a gun" firing blindly towards whoever they think shots are coming from
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on October 02, 2017, 04:03:54 PM
Hey guys everything will be ok. Thoughts and prayers are pouring in from GOP whores to the NRA and Trump/Pence had a moment of silence.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: ice grillin you on October 03, 2017, 01:08:35 PM
john thune's answer to gun control is basically do a better job of hiding from the bullets

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DLOoktyXkAEYTSc.jpg)
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: SD on October 03, 2017, 02:06:55 PM
Quote from: MDS on October 02, 2017, 09:14:25 AM
thoughts and prayers to everyone in las vegas

What happens in Vegas, stays in Vegas
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: MDS on October 03, 2017, 02:49:28 PM
i had a nice twitter chat with a gun not republican last night. he was trolling someone about hillary i think but i engaged him civily and he responded civilly. basically his view about guns boiled down to this:

rights >>> lives

what the farg is the point of anything when that's going to be it
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Rome on October 03, 2017, 03:00:15 PM
See?  Now you're getting it. 

Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on October 03, 2017, 03:46:55 PM
Health care is a privilege but gunzzzzzzzz are a right dammit!

This Vegas story is farging heart breaking. And the people who dig their heels in on the guns sicken me. farg them.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: ice grillin you on October 03, 2017, 03:57:27 PM
damn


https://www.washingtonpost.com/national/two-strangers-bond-over-country-music-and-beer-then-the-shots-started/2017/10/03/d5d4541a-a846-11e7-b3aa-c0e2e1d41e38_story.html?utm_term=.72e233fc7f2a
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: smeags on October 03, 2017, 04:25:50 PM
that will make you well up.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: MDS on October 03, 2017, 04:53:25 PM
was just gonna post that

the kicker is...damn
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on October 03, 2017, 06:36:06 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on October 03, 2017, 03:57:27 PM
damn


https://www.washingtonpost.com/national/two-strangers-bond-over-country-music-and-beer-then-the-shots-started/2017/10/03/d5d4541a-a846-11e7-b3aa-c0e2e1d41e38_story.html?utm_term=.72e233fc7f2a

Jesus...that one hurt to read
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Tomahawk on October 03, 2017, 08:16:12 PM
Re-post it so I don't have to pay to read it. WaPo says democracy dies in darkness; I say it dies when you have to pay to see the light
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Sgt PSN on October 03, 2017, 08:46:21 PM
Lol
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Diomedes on October 03, 2017, 10:41:12 PM
That's a gem.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: General_Failure on October 03, 2017, 10:52:31 PM
At his local Starbucks, Las Vegas shooter remembered for berating his girlfriend (http://www.latimes.com/nation/la-las-vegas-shooting-live-updates-at-his-local-starbucks-vegas-shooter-1507060195-htmlstory.html)

QuoteThe workers behind the counter at the  Starbucks inside the Virgin River Casino in Mesquite, Nev., winced whenever Stephen Paddock and his girlfriend, Marilou Danley, lined up for their usual beverages.

That's because Paddock had a nasty habit of berating Danley in public. "It happened a lot," Esperanza Mendoza, supervisor of the Starbucks, said Tuesday.

QuoteThe abuse would come when she asked to use his casino card to make the purchase, Mendoza said. The card enables gamblers to use credits earned on electronic gambling machines to pay for souvenirs or food in the casino.

"He would glare down at her and say — with a mean attitude — 'You don't need my casino card for this. I'm paying for your drink, just like I'm paying for you.' Then she would softly say, 'OK' and step back behind him. He was so rude to her in front of us."
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: MDS on October 04, 2017, 09:25:17 AM
Quote from: Tomahawk on October 03, 2017, 08:16:12 PM
Re-post it so I don't have to pay to read it. WaPo says democracy dies in darkness; I say it dies when you have to pay to see the light

exactly

journalists should work for free to provide you with news but you should get paid to do whatever the farg it is you do
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: hbionic on October 04, 2017, 11:45:37 AM
Quote from: MDS on October 04, 2017, 09:25:17 AM
Quote from: Tomahawk on October 03, 2017, 08:16:12 PM
Re-post it so I don't have to pay to read it. WaPo says democracy dies in darkness; I say it dies when you have to pay to see the light
journalists should work for free to provide you with news but you should get paid to do whatever the farg it is you do

That is quote worthy. Easily my most favorite MDS line ever.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Tomahawk on October 04, 2017, 09:24:44 PM
It's not a good look to get so defensive for a profession you couldn't make it in.

http://www.altpress.com/contributors/entry/phil_labonte_of_all_that_remains_on_the_second_amendment_and_our_right_to_b

A dude with whom I used to work liked this on fb so I read it.

How can these people miss the point they're making about the 2nd Amendment?

QuoteThe framers of our Constitution did not believe in standing armies. They believed that a free people had the right and responsibility to secure their own safety, property and liberty

We now have a standing army, but I'm all for dismantling our military to the point where you owning am assault rifle is justified.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on October 05, 2017, 01:54:10 AM
http://content.jwplatform.com/previews/DCADb31h-FAOf4K8g

Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: SD on October 05, 2017, 07:17:40 AM
I'm all for the 2nd amendment, having a fire arm to protect your household, and open carry as long as you have the appropriate license. There's no need to bare arms beyond that point. We're not getting invaded and the military isn't going to suddenly take over the country. Citizens don't need to be armed with assault rifles and now there's a push by the NRA to make silencers legal. Because that's what the founding fathers had in mind when they were loading their muskets. The whole thing is a farging joke. I'm sure you've all seen the Kimmel monologue about this not being about the 2nd amendment but about common sense.

The scarey part is the pro gun nuts realistically think the Government/Obama/Hilary were going to take their guns away. It would be impossible to confiscate every firearm in the country, there's more guns owned by citizens in this country than there are people. Unfortunately we have a weasel in the WH who will never support legislation.

These dimwits keep saying the same thing, Chicago has strict gun laws and look at their murder rate. Totally missing the point.

I still catch the DS every now and again
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nV5fXPVeZoQ
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: ice grillin you on October 05, 2017, 07:57:51 AM
truth be told the nra doesn't even care about 2A...they are a money making organization not a defend the constitution one...their job is to scare as many people as possible into believing that something black is coming for them....either a helicopter or a young male

also the vast majority of gun owners want much tougher gun control laws but the cowards in congress are beholden to the nra's money
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Rome on October 05, 2017, 09:19:10 AM
The gun nuts are out in force right now.  I swear the gun lobby brainwashed iceholes like the guy in Vegas just to get them to do a massacre to increase business. 

We are so farged right now. 
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: MDS on October 05, 2017, 09:23:25 AM
something like 78% of the country doesnt even own a gun....3% of the country controls most of the guns. so this whole thing is about placating to a minuscule group of people who would rather hoard assault rifles than see people live.

farg this country.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: SD on October 05, 2017, 09:28:02 AM
Quote from: Rome on October 05, 2017, 09:19:10 AM
The gun nuts are out in force right now.  I swear the gun lobby brainwashed iceholes like the guy in Vegas just to get them to do a massacre to increase business. 

We are so farged right now.

Some of my favorites:
Knives kill more people per year than guns, why aren't we banning knives
If someone wants to kill someone they can do it by other means like a bomb, just look at Timothy McVeigh!
Guns don't kill other people, humans do
The areas with the strictest gun control laws also have the highest crime rates
We banned drugs but they're still on the street. Look how that idea turned out.

Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Tomahawk on October 05, 2017, 10:09:10 AM
The dumbfarg author of the stupid article I posted a link to pointed out the tragedies in Norway (all those kids) and a couple other EU countries, saying how they have strict gun control laws. He fails to mention the occurences are much more frequent in the US.

Acquiescing to his point, yes, it is going to happen no matter what. That doesn't mean we should make it easy to get the guns. Or sell them to mentally ill people
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: ice grillin you on October 05, 2017, 10:13:11 AM
i mean if to become a law the law has to 100% stop wrong doing then just dont have laws
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: MDS on October 05, 2017, 10:16:07 AM
theres a law against rape but last night there were plenty of rapes

whats the point it doesnt work

rape legal
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Rome on October 05, 2017, 10:38:37 AM
More Americans have died in gun-related incidents since 1968 than all the people who died in wars since 1776. 

I read that yesterday and couldn't believe it, but it's true. 

We.  Are.  farged. 
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Rome on October 05, 2017, 11:45:03 AM
Some dipshtein on Facebook just tried the drugs false equivalency on me.  It didn't end well for him.   
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: smeags on October 05, 2017, 11:52:33 AM
did you verbally annihilate him ?
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Rome on October 05, 2017, 12:22:21 PM
I pointed out his argument was filled with blanks then I shot it full of holes. 
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: smeags on October 05, 2017, 12:41:46 PM
hopefully you weren't trigger happy.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on October 05, 2017, 06:33:41 PM
Quote from: SD on October 05, 2017, 09:28:02 AM
Quote from: Rome on October 05, 2017, 09:19:10 AM
The gun nuts are out in force right now.  I swear the gun lobby brainwashed iceholes like the guy in Vegas just to get them to do a massacre to increase business. 

We are so farged right now.

Some of my favorites:
Knives kill more people per year than guns, why aren't we banning knives
If someone wants to kill someone they can do it by other means like a bomb, just look at Timothy McVeigh!
Guns don't kill other people, humans do
The areas with the strictest gun control laws also have the highest crime rates
We banned drugs but they're still on the street. Look how that idea turned out.

The knives one is always maddening

As is the "ban cars!" shtein. When I hear that one I would like to kick their ass

Bonus is the "look at Chicago" or "what about in Europe with acid and trucks? Criminals will find a way!"
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: ice grillin you on October 05, 2017, 07:21:36 PM
bad people will find a way....this is true.....in the meantime lets make it as easy as possible for them
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on October 05, 2017, 08:54:47 PM
http://www.cnn.com/2017/10/05/politics/kellyanne-conway-white-house-las-vegas/index.html

Dumb bitch
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: ice grillin you on October 05, 2017, 08:58:03 PM
obama was supposed to be coming after everyones guns and he didnt even get their bump stocks
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on October 05, 2017, 10:10:31 PM
I'd love to see a full repeal of the second amendment just to watch the histrionics from the righties
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: ice grillin you on October 05, 2017, 10:15:30 PM
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on October 05, 2017, 10:10:31 PM
I'd love to see a full repeal of the second amendment just to watch a second civil war
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on October 05, 2017, 10:17:32 PM
Hey at least they'd have use for their confederate flags

Can I stay in your basement after I have to leave here?
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: ice grillin you on October 05, 2017, 10:19:58 PM
if the lines are drawn the same you might wanna go a little further north
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on October 05, 2017, 11:44:02 PM
True

We will all be in Philly

We can stay with lil guy
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Diomedes on October 06, 2017, 06:08:22 AM
One of the things that drives me nuts about gun lovers is that they actually agree with gun control people, they just don't know it.  They talk like any limit on the right to bear arms would bode the onset of tyranny, but the fact is that we all think access to weapons should be controlled, we just have vastly different opinions on where the control should begin. 

Gun freaks and I are in perfect agreement, for example, that shoulder fired rocket launchers should not be available to the public.  I've never heard of a 2A activiist aguing that we should be able to buy grenades at Wal Mart.  Never even heard of them arguing for fulll auto weapons to be made legal. 

So what we've got here is a bunch of people who support gun control, we just have to get them to move the line to include all of these insanely deadly modern weapons.  The Framers would never have supported the idea that anyone can carry in his pocket a pistol that fires 13 rounds as quickly as you can pull the trigger.  The mayhem that would ensue if human beings had easy access to that would have been obvious to them.  They confiscated weapons in cowboy towns afterall, because it just doesn't work when everyone can easily kill on an impulse.

The NRA allowing bump stock ban to be put forward is a massive defeat for them, insofar as they are forced to reveal that they too support gun control, but by ceding it, they fend off a more meaningful advance in gun control laws.  We should push for more than just bump stocks.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: ice grillin you on October 06, 2017, 09:39:39 AM
the fact that a huge win is banning a piece of metal that modifies a gun that itself shouldnt be legal is so ridiculous to me

wayne lapierre also said he is not for banning bump stocks...hes for "regulating" them...how the farg do you regulate an accessory to a gun...you either ban them or you dont

this whole thing is a friggin joke
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Butchers Bill on October 06, 2017, 10:15:02 AM
Quote from: Diomedes on October 06, 2017, 06:08:22 AM
One of the things that drives me nuts about gun lovers is that they actually agree with gun control people, they just don't know it.  They talk like any limit on the right to bear arms would bode the onset of tyranny, but the fact is that we all think access to weapons should be controlled, we just have vastly different opinions on where the control should begin. 

Gun freaks and I are in perfect agreement, for example, that shoulder fired rocket launchers should not be available to the public.  I've never heard of a 2A activiist aguing that we should be able to buy grenades at Wal Mart.  Never even heard of them arguing for fulll auto weapons to be made legal. 

So what we've got here is a bunch of people who support gun control, we just have to get them to move the line to include all of these insanely deadly modern weapons.  The Framers would never have supported the idea that anyone can carry in his pocket a pistol that fires 13 rounds as quickly as you can pull the trigger.  The mayhem that would ensue if human beings had easy access to that would have been obvious to them.  They confiscated weapons in cowboy towns afterall, because it just doesn't work when everyone can easily kill on an impulse.

The NRA allowing bump stock ban to be put forward is a massive defeat for them, insofar as they are forced to reveal that they too support gun control, but by ceding it, they fend off a more meaningful advance in gun control laws.  We should push for more than just bump stocks.

Even though the left hated him, that was pretty much Scalia's argument with 2A as well.  He interpreted it to include weapons that were "in common use at the time".

https://takingnote.blogs.nytimes.com/2015/12/11/justice-scalias-gun-control-argument/
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Rome on October 06, 2017, 11:18:04 AM
Scalise just got shot to pieces yet he's one of the most strident gun nuts in Washington. 

You just can't reason with motherfargers like that.  So... you don't.  You get out the vote and send them slithering back to the holes from whence they came.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Tomahawk on October 06, 2017, 11:34:42 AM
Lololololol @ voting for change. Even politicians new to Washington are quickly beholden to the money and lobbies, case in point: Obama
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: smeags on October 06, 2017, 11:51:36 AM
oh, that will go over well here.  :paranoid :-D
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Tomahawk on October 06, 2017, 12:47:52 PM
People here are objective and intelligent enough to understand even though Obama was the best President in recent history, certainly since I became eligible to vote in 1992, he still succumbed to the machine
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on October 09, 2017, 11:57:39 PM
http://www.latimes.com/nation/la-na-vegas-shooting-20171009-story.html

This new timeline changes things

The guard was shot before he started firing on the crowd. Previously they said he stopped the crowd shots to turn on the guard.

All eyes on the Mandalay security Noe as to why it was not reported the guard was shot earlier.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on October 29, 2017, 06:15:33 PM
https://mobile.nytimes.com/2017/10/26/us/adam-lanza-sandy-hook.html
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on November 05, 2017, 03:00:33 PM
Moving this over here

27 dead and 24 injured based on early reports

The thoughts and prayers bridgade is out in full force.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on November 05, 2017, 04:20:33 PM
Guys listen...now isn't the time to talk about gun control.

Bout about those terrorists and trucks and kneeling players...
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on November 05, 2017, 06:04:46 PM
Devin Kelly 26 is the shooter

Apparently a white dude and there are reports that his social media accounts are being taken down bc he was on there showing off guns
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on November 05, 2017, 06:41:10 PM
https://heavy.com/news/2017/11/devin-kelley-p-sutherland-springs-church-shooter-patrick-kelly/
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: SD on November 05, 2017, 07:43:09 PM
Radical Islamic Terrorist
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Rome on November 05, 2017, 07:45:26 PM
Motherucking thoughts and prayers, though.  all that counts!
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: MDS on November 05, 2017, 07:49:24 PM
i was legit screaming at my pops walking up 10th st about this...he was all about not taking away rights.

farg america
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on November 05, 2017, 08:41:49 PM
We need more stringent and strict vetting is what we need right?!

Thoughts and prayers.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: ice grillin you on November 05, 2017, 08:50:30 PM
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on November 05, 2017, 08:41:49 PM
Thoughts and prayers.

lolol
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: MDS on November 05, 2017, 10:11:38 PM
guess what? he was a domestic abuser

shocker

http://www.latimes.com/politics/washington/la-na-pol-essential-washington-updates-alleged-texas-shooter-was-court-1509937194-htmlstory.html
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on November 05, 2017, 10:12:49 PM
Perfectly ok with him being armed

Governor Hot Wheels Greg Abbott is at a vigil right now so it'll be just fine
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: MDS on November 05, 2017, 10:16:59 PM
he wasnt legally allowed to possess the weapons because of his discharge, so the narrative is already out there that you cant stop these people bla bla bla who cares

we have 2 options

1. stop making these weapons. stop manufacturing them.
2. monthly mass shootings
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on November 05, 2017, 10:19:48 PM
Let's not forget about the WalMart shooting in Colorado this week too

Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Sgt PSN on November 05, 2017, 10:41:34 PM
Something ain't quite right with that article.

QuoteThe man authorities have identified as the shooter in the massacre at a Texas church was give a bad conduct discharge from the Air Force three years ago after being court-martialed for assault, a military spokesperson confirmed Sunday.

Federal law prohibits a person who has been dishonorably discharged from buying a firearm. Whether Kelley's discharge would trigger the law was not immediately clear.

There are several characters of discharge:

Honorable
General
General Other Than Honorable
Bad Conduct
Dishonorable

To my knowledge, only a Dishonorable Discharge comes with a loss of gun rights. In most states it is considered equal to a felony conviction.

A BCD, as best I know, isn't on par with that and there's no loss of gun rights associated with that character of discharge. That said, his court martial conviction for assault very well could be considered equal to a felony conviction which would have put him on the ban list.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: SD on November 06, 2017, 09:16:00 AM
People who don't know much about the military think any discharge that isn't honorable is identified as a 'dishonorable discharge'. Been at the VA for going on 7 years, I've maybe seen 5 DD. Usually it's for stuff like child molestation, murder, ripping off the Gov't for a lot of money. Bad conduct discharges are usually for service members who have a pattern of misconduct. It's actually better to mess up once and get the boot then it is to have a pattern.

There was a guy who was convicted of selling heroin on his ship in the 70's who received an under honorable conditions which is essentially the same as honorable. Nowadays that would get brig time and probably a DD. Seen bad cases of domestic violence, assault to other service members, ripping the Gov't off, AWOL, drug abuse etc., all were given other than honorable. That's not even an automatic bar to benefits, they can request a trial (I've done about a dozen) and plea their case. Most Vets that come in with a hard luck story we write them in for benefits. Whatever, Vet messed up once but served honorably for 4 years he shouldn't lose out.

Anyway. Yeah they need gun control. Bad. I only own a gun for home defense. I have an open carry license but unless I'm going to the range it doesn't leave my house.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Sgt PSN on November 06, 2017, 10:14:14 AM
I'd expect an individual, like lil guy for example, to not know the difference between a BCD and DD.  I do think that a paper as big as the LA Times should be able to make the distinction though.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on November 06, 2017, 08:55:37 PM
https://mobile.nytimes.com/2017/11/06/us/devin-patrick-kelley-texas.html?smid=tw-nytimes&smtyp=cur&referer=http://www.sportsjournalists.com/forum/threads/shooting-at-texas-church.127544/page-17

So the Air Force failed to enter him in a database that would've prevented him from buying guns
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Sgt PSN on November 06, 2017, 09:41:58 PM
That is not a good look for the AF. Heads are gonna roll for that one.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: General_Failure on November 06, 2017, 09:59:23 PM
I can't believe Obummer destroyed morale so bad that they couldn't do paperwork properly.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Tomahawk on November 06, 2017, 10:34:00 PM
Once again proving he was one big ass mistake, America
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: SD on November 06, 2017, 10:54:55 PM
If his last name was Mohammed I guarantee you he's in the database
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Sgt PSN on November 06, 2017, 11:44:19 PM
Well, yeah. But to be fair, everyone named Mohammed is probably already in that database.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: smeags on November 07, 2017, 08:29:41 AM
Hilary's fault.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: General_Failure on November 07, 2017, 10:38:37 AM
She greased up the internet with butter emails.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: smeags on November 14, 2017, 01:48:21 PM
another one. you know the drill.


http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-ln-norcal-elementary-school-shooting-20171114-story.html (http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-ln-norcal-elementary-school-shooting-20171114-story.html)
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Rome on November 14, 2017, 02:17:29 PM
T&P!
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on November 14, 2017, 04:07:13 PM
Thoughts and prayers for sure.

Time to give the kids guns.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: MDS on November 14, 2017, 05:03:24 PM
this shtein is not even registering
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on November 14, 2017, 06:24:18 PM
Nope.

Coworker streams CNN and for a couple hours I didn't hear one mention of it
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: ice grillin you on November 15, 2017, 06:50:35 AM
white privilege

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/calif-shooter-previously-wanted-assaulting-neighbors-article-1.3633412

black privilege

http://www.denverpost.com/2017/11/07/colorado-springs-woman-jailed-pretrial-fee/
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Rome on November 15, 2017, 07:41:42 AM
No one cares at this point.  Dead people are just the cost of doing business. 
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Sgt PSN on November 15, 2017, 12:27:27 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on November 15, 2017, 06:50:35 AM
black privilege

http://www.denverpost.com/2017/11/07/colorado-springs-woman-jailed-pretrial-fee/

27 days of lodging, meals, medical care, clothing, & utilities for $55?  I never knew they had it so good. White people can't catch a break.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Geowhizzer on January 01, 2018, 02:31:34 PM
16 year old Long Branch, New Jersey kid rings in the new year by shooting parents, sister, and family friend. (http://abcnews.go.com/US/16-year-allegedly-killed-parents-sister-family-friend/story?id=52081845)
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: SD on January 31, 2018, 05:02:52 PM
I follow the news pretty close - granted this past week I'm Eagles 24/7 - but it's sad this is the first I heard about this shooting. I just saw on the local news there was a school shooting today. Went on google and this story popped up from a week ago.

https://www.cnn.com/2018/01/23/us/kentucky-high-school-shooting/index.html

Reporter covering shooting finds out the shooter is her son

https://nypost.com/2018/01/27/reporter-covering-school-shooting-learns-suspect-is-her-son/

Sad farging world we live in when this shtein is barely a blip on the radar.

School shooting today was at Lincoln high in Mayfair. Early word is it was two parents arguing outside the school which lead to the shooting.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: General_Failure on April 03, 2018, 05:04:26 PM
Active shooter reported at YouTube's headquarters in California (https://news.vice.com/en_us/article/qvx3wp/active-shooter-reported-at-youtubes-headquarters-in-california?utm_source=vicenewstwitter)

QuoteA spokesperson for Zuckerberg San Francisco General Hospital told NBC that the hospital has received patients from the incident. According to the San Bruno police department's scanner, 37 people need "triaging."
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Rome on April 03, 2018, 05:28:27 PM
Ugh. 
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: General_Failure on April 03, 2018, 07:22:03 PM
Here's a twist, the shooter was a woman. And also shot herself, but that's not a twist.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Diomedes on April 03, 2018, 07:23:03 PM
Women don't typically use guns for suicide. 

Then again, women don't typically shoot the place up, either.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Tomahawk on April 03, 2018, 11:09:23 PM
Quote from: Diomedes on April 03, 2018, 07:23:03 PM
Women don't typically use guns for suicide. 

Then again, women don't typically shoot the place up, either.

Didn't "going postal" become a phrase because of womyn shooters?
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Diomedes on April 04, 2018, 06:45:22 AM
Not from what I recall, no.  It was white dudes.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: SD on April 04, 2018, 09:12:46 AM
Men account for 78% of all suicides. Majority are white men. Half of those suicides are by firearm. Women are more likely (2 to 1) to attempt suicide but only account for 22% of actual suicides. If anyone cares.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: smeags on April 04, 2018, 11:12:53 AM
in other words women need to work on their technique.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: SD on April 04, 2018, 11:25:37 AM
More likely they're drama queens looking for attention...cry for help...daddy issues. Chose one.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: ice grillin you on April 05, 2018, 08:28:00 PM
whats mens excuses for od'ing on opiods on the regular....farging little bitches life is too tough...screaming daddy didnt buy me a pony
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: SD on April 05, 2018, 11:02:56 PM
Possibly...or maybe they just like to get high and don't know their limits. Maybe they got a bad batch (currently happening all over the place with fentanyl).
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: ice grillin you on April 05, 2018, 11:10:50 PM
maybe they are weaker than seven days
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: General_Failure on April 22, 2018, 12:11:24 PM
https://twitter.com/cnnbrk/status/988032934337744896
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Tomahawk on April 24, 2018, 11:46:31 PM
That dude grew up around Peoria, ILL. Sometimes I wish we had a Waffle House; not so much for the opportunity to get shot at, but more for the zesty food.

http://www.pjstar.com/news/20180423/tazewell-county-sheriffs-office-says-it-never-had-custody-of-travis-reinkings-weapons
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: SD on May 18, 2018, 11:26:23 AM
Another school shooting in Texas, multiple fatalities. Bring on the gun nuts.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: ice grillin you on May 18, 2018, 11:38:29 AM
must have been ms-13 or something
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: SD on May 18, 2018, 11:42:51 AM
Quote from: ice grillin you on May 18, 2018, 11:38:29 AM
must have been ms-13 or something

It was David Hogg
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: smeags on May 18, 2018, 12:13:27 PM
O/U on thoughts & prayers posts per hour on FB ?
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Rome on May 18, 2018, 12:16:30 PM
If only everyone was armed.  Never would have happened. 
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: SD on May 18, 2018, 12:23:17 PM
Quote from: Rome on May 18, 2018, 12:16:30 PM
If only everyone was armed.  Never would have happened.

It's Texas, everyone is armed.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: MDS on May 18, 2018, 02:46:40 PM
yawn
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: ice grillin you on May 18, 2018, 02:54:58 PM
less than a month ago

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DdffYUIUQAAS1BT.jpg:large)
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: MDS on May 18, 2018, 03:25:04 PM
they need prayer now. im a second amendment guy.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Diomedes on May 18, 2018, 04:02:38 PM
Kid used his father's guns. 


Put Dad in prison, please.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: ice grillin you on May 18, 2018, 08:13:51 PM
hmmmmm

QuoteDimitrios Pagourtzis, the suspected gunman who opened fire at a Texas high school on Friday morning, apparently posted photos of neo-Nazi iconography online, according to social media accounts flagged by classmates and reviewed by The Daily Beast.

Pagourtzis posted multiple pictures of a duster jacket emblazoned with a variety of symbols including the Iron Cross, a German military award last given by the Nazis, and a hammer and sickle. He said he equated the Iron Cross with "bravery," and the hammer and sickle with "rebellion."

(https://img.thedailybeast.com/image/upload/d_placeholder_euli9k/dpr_2.0/c_limit,w_585/fl_lossy,q_auto/180518-weill-shooter-embed2_apof3w)

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DdhLR_DU0AAtO_i.jpg)

Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Diomedes on May 18, 2018, 09:03:19 PM
When was the last time one of these guys was a liberal fanatic? 

Honest question.  It happens. 
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: ice grillin you on May 18, 2018, 09:06:48 PM
the guy who shot up the republican softball game was a liberal
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: MDS on May 18, 2018, 09:08:32 PM
think he was more of a bernie bro which is its own subset but yea sure he was that side
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Diomedes on May 18, 2018, 09:09:22 PM
that's right...more recent than I thought

Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: ice grillin you on May 18, 2018, 09:17:36 PM
in no way am i defending what he did....shooting people is bad....even donald trump

but there is a huge difference btwn progressive hate and right wing hate...progressives hate other peoples hate...on the right almost everything they do from the extreme of a white supremacist who drives his car into a bunch of liberals cause he hates jews and blacks to the passing of laws that purposely hurt women minorities and the disenfranchised...

the foundation of everything on the right these days is solely based in hatred and fear

also lets be real a liberal mass shooter is the rare exception
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: SD on May 18, 2018, 09:38:09 PM
More kids have died from school shootings this year than people in the military. That number doesn't even include teachers etc. who were killed and the military deaths are overall not just from combat.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: MDS on May 18, 2018, 09:58:48 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on May 18, 2018, 09:17:36 PM
shooting people is bad....even donald trump


false
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Diomedes on May 21, 2018, 08:42:41 PM
Well, I for one would cheer.  But the problem is, we shouldn't kill anyone.  It hurts us for longer than it hurts them.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: ice grillin you on May 29, 2018, 01:06:35 PM
heres a new one...grocery store porn causes school shootings

https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/diane-black-porn-school-gun-violence_us_5b0d6634e4b0568a880ede65?19
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Geowhizzer on May 29, 2018, 05:32:53 PM
Everyone knows it's gluten that causes mass shooting.  That and measles vaccinations.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: SD on June 17, 2018, 07:48:36 AM
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/ny-news-trenton-art-shooting-061718-story.html

Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Diomedes on June 17, 2018, 07:33:23 PM
what the farg is a 13 year old doing at a music festival at 2:45 a.m.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Rome on June 17, 2018, 07:48:48 PM
Slinging dope?
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Diomedes on June 28, 2018, 03:43:23 PM
My second hometown, Annapolis makes this thread for the first time.  Poor bastiches.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: smeags on June 28, 2018, 04:58:45 PM
too early to see any motives mentioned, but what if this is it ? (GF's post from the politics thread)


https://twitter.com/NoahCRothman/status/1011686656439738370
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: ice grillin you on June 29, 2018, 07:08:43 AM
the guy might not even know who milo is...but theres this other more well known guy who has been relentlessly attacking the press as the enemy of the people for a few years now
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: SD on June 29, 2018, 10:18:06 AM
From what I understand the guy filed a defamation suit against the paper which was dismissed...then dismissed again after he appealed

In Bucks County, 30 year old charged with possessing a weapon of mass destruction. There've been a string of huge explosions in the middle of the night for the last few months. This guy owned a chemical factory. They also found meth.

https://philadelphia.cbslocal.com/2018/06/28/sources-authorities-investigating-multiple-locations-in-bucks-county-in-connection-to-mysterious-explosions/

Check out some of his artwork. I'm sure there's a MAGA hat laying somewhere around his house

http://6abc.com/suspect-arrested-in-bucks-co-explosions-investigation-identified/3668551/
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Rome on June 29, 2018, 11:23:12 AM
Meth America Great Again?
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: General_Failure on July 17, 2018, 01:35:08 PM
Mandalay Bay owners sue victims of Las Vegas mass shooting (http://www.foxnews.com/us/2018/07/17/mandalay-bay-owners-sue-victims-las-vegas-mass-shooting.html)
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Geowhizzer on August 26, 2018, 02:43:41 PM
I pray you're OK, Rome and GF:

Jacksonville Landing - during a video game tournament. (https://www.cnn.com/2018/08/26/us/jacksonville-madden-shooting/index.html)
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: General_Failure on August 26, 2018, 03:16:01 PM
Any shooting at a video game event is a mass shooting, amirite?
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: ice grillin you on August 26, 2018, 03:23:53 PM
https://twitter.com/Anakron199X/status/1033777890318594048
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Rome on August 26, 2018, 04:11:39 PM
My daughter goes to UNF in Jacksonville.  We had a few minutes there where she wasn't answering her phone.   She was safe on campus thankfully. 
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: SD on October 27, 2018, 11:17:10 AM
7 dead, active shooter, synagogue...Thoughts and prayers
https://pittsburgh.cbslocal.com/2018/10/27/heavy-police-presence-near-synagogue-in-squirrel-hill/
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Munson on October 27, 2018, 11:37:36 AM
How dare you use this event to disparage those who want to send out thoughts and prayers to the victims!
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: General_Failure on October 27, 2018, 12:27:03 PM
I can't believe anyone would use this tragedy to further their political agenda. Now is not the time to discuss domestic terrorism.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: MDS on October 27, 2018, 02:28:42 PM
so this guy was a big gab user. everyone know what gab is? no? ok.

https://twitter.com/MichaelEHayden/status/1056218257290604550

Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: General_Failure on November 03, 2018, 06:55:26 PM
https://twitter.com/jjmacnab/status/1058843234892312576
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: SD on November 03, 2018, 07:51:38 PM
No SD joke? You guys are slippin
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: SD on November 08, 2018, 06:37:03 AM
https://6abc.com/authorities-12-killed-in-calif-bar-shooting-suspect-dead/4644740/

Gunman opened fire at a bar in So Cal. 12 dead including s Sherrif's deputy
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: General_Failure on November 08, 2018, 09:22:18 AM
https://twitter.com/CBSThisMorning/status/1060531158465892352
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Munson on November 08, 2018, 12:03:26 PM
How did he end up at both scenes? Crisis actor!
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on November 08, 2018, 08:17:26 PM
One of the shot and killed apparently was at the Vegas shooting too

The killer was a vet with mental health issues
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: General_Failure on January 23, 2019, 06:15:24 PM
https://twitter.com/NBCNews/status/1088193285624082434
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: General_Failure on February 15, 2019, 08:05:44 PM
https://twitter.com/nytimes/status/1096523549177720839
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Diomedes on February 15, 2019, 10:01:46 PM
Industrial workers should be carrying sidearms, obviously.  This would have been over right quick.

Also, everyone.  Guns for everyone.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: General_Failure on February 17, 2019, 12:33:47 AM
https://twitter.com/LanayaLewis/status/1096960955035066369
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Munson on March 14, 2019, 11:09:56 PM
Not in the US, but a nazi in New Zealand with the 14 words on his gun posted a manifesto on 8chan (apparently) and then live streamed himself on facebook or some other place shooting up a Mosque. Apparently shots were fired at another Mosque in the same town about 20-30 minutes later.

I farging accidentally auto-played some of the footage on twitter while looking for news...stay the farg away from it. It's horrifying. and I only saw about 2-4 seconds of it.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on March 14, 2019, 11:25:04 PM
JFC that's awful

Wonder if Cheeto Dick condemns white supremacy this time?
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Munson on March 14, 2019, 11:35:08 PM
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on March 14, 2019, 11:25:04 PM
JFC that's awful

Wonder if Cheeto Dick condemns white supremacy this time?

Nope...in the middle of the news breaking, he tweeted out a link to breitbart.com's homepage.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Munson on March 15, 2019, 08:41:42 AM
https://twitter.com/cd_hooks/status/1106450885666844672


Yyyyep. The Nazis need a fist to the face, not polite dialogue.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Munson on March 15, 2019, 08:52:17 AM
https://twitter.com/kevinroose/status/1106415640527679488

Keep this in mind as the manifesto spreads. A lot of it screams as 4chan "4 the lulz" stuff
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Rome on March 15, 2019, 11:19:16 AM
Hey - can't wait until someone farging smokes a couple hundred of those Nazi shteinbags.  They've declared war.  Time for people of good character to respond in kind. 
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: General_Failure on March 15, 2019, 11:48:26 AM
Weren't they all just in your neck of the woods for Bike Week?
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Rome on March 15, 2019, 12:50:31 PM
They're still here.  They mingle with the Bikers For Christ crown.  Nuke em all, I say. 
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: ice grillin you on March 15, 2019, 01:57:25 PM
they are covering all the places of worship lately...

dylan roof got the black church in charleston
bowers rolled tree of life
now this dood merked two mosques
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: General_Failure on April 27, 2019, 09:52:23 PM
https://twitter.com/nytimes/status/1122231915753496576
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: General_Failure on April 30, 2019, 11:24:33 PM
https://twitter.com/ABC/status/1123361806536171520
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: MDS on May 07, 2019, 10:11:54 PM
a teenager died today in denver...many others shot

anyone notice? anyone care?
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Geowhizzer on May 07, 2019, 10:14:41 PM
Quote from: MDS on May 07, 2019, 10:11:54 PM
a teenager died today in denver...many others shot

anyone notice? anyone care?

Thoughts and prayers were sent.  Sad emojis clicked.  What else needs to be done?
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: General_Failure on May 18, 2019, 04:31:59 PM
https://twitter.com/indystar/status/1129796632764137472
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on May 31, 2019, 06:58:41 PM
Ho hum another one

Virginia Beach. 11 people dead plus the shooter.

Thoughts and prayers
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: MDS on May 31, 2019, 10:03:24 PM
dont care
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: ice grillin you on May 31, 2019, 11:01:54 PM
yeah yawn

at this point I just try not to be in one and I'm good
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Diomedes on June 01, 2019, 11:33:25 AM
you'd think by this point someone would have blown up the NRA headquarters, or at least shot a bunch of NRA lobbyists in their cars

how many bereaved family you gotta have before one of them decides to take it to the source?
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: SD on June 01, 2019, 11:38:58 AM
T&P
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: NC_Eagle on June 01, 2019, 01:39:08 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/gRssjsv.jpg)
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: ice grillin you on June 01, 2019, 07:43:45 PM
Quote from: Diomedes on June 01, 2019, 11:33:25 AM
you'd think by this point someone would have blown up the NRA headquarters, or at least shot a bunch of NRA lobbyists in their cars

how many bereaved family you gotta have before one of them decides to take it to the source?

we snowflakes don't do this but maybe we should
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: General_Failure on July 29, 2019, 09:09:28 AM
4 Dead, Including Suspect, 12 Hurt in Gilroy Garlic Festival Shooting (https://www.nbcbayarea.com/news/local/Police-Respond-to-Reports-of-Shooting-at-Gilroy-Garlic-Festival-513320251.html)
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on July 29, 2019, 09:17:04 AM
Wonder if the GOP "thoughts and prayers" brigade can even muster them up since it happened to libtards in Commiefornia!
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: General_Failure on July 29, 2019, 09:58:00 AM
Maybe if they spent more time praying and less time using garlic like anal beads God wouldn't have let this happen.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Munson on August 03, 2019, 03:22:10 PM
https://twitter.com/cnnbrk/status/1157732159794405380?

Can't wait for the thoughts and prayers brigade. Jfc.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: SD on August 03, 2019, 03:29:17 PM
But Texas as such lax gun laws how could that be?
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Rome on August 03, 2019, 03:29:40 PM
Too bad there wasn't a good guy with a gun to stop it.  Stupid libruls!
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Munson on August 03, 2019, 03:36:53 PM
Yeah I've been told for a few years now "why don't you ever see a mass shooting in Texas?!"....welp..
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Rome on August 03, 2019, 03:46:05 PM
"Too bad!"
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Geowhizzer on August 03, 2019, 05:25:33 PM
Quote from: Munson on August 03, 2019, 03:36:53 PM
Yeah I've been told for a few years now "why don't you ever see a mass shooting in Texas?!"....welp..

1966 - University of Texas (aka "Tower Shooting") - 18 killed by a sniper.
1991 - Luby's Cafeteria in Killeen - 23 killed
1999 - Wedgwood Baptist Church in Fort Worth - 8 killed
2009 - Fort Hood - 14 killed
2017 - Sutherland Springs church shooting - 26 killed
2018 - Santa Fe High School (Texas, not New Mexico) - 10 Killed

It's not exactly rare.  This was just a quick search.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: SD on August 03, 2019, 05:44:04 PM
He posted a manifesto. He's an anti-immigration Trump lover
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: General_Failure on August 03, 2019, 07:48:40 PM
Quote from: Geowhizzer on August 03, 2019, 05:25:33 PM
Quote from: Munson on August 03, 2019, 03:36:53 PM
Yeah I've been told for a few years now "why don't you ever see a mass shooting in Texas?!"....welp..

1966 - University of Texas (aka "Tower Shooting") - 18 killed by a sniper.
1991 - Luby's Cafeteria in Killeen - 23 killed
1999 - Wedgwood Baptist Church in Fort Worth - 8 killed
2009 - Fort Hood - 14 killed
2017 - Sutherland Springs church shooting - 26 killed
2018 - Santa Fe High School (Texas, not New Mexico) - 10 Killed

It's not exactly rare.  This was just a quick search.


There's probably one other big shooting if you go back. And to the left.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Geowhizzer on August 03, 2019, 07:57:58 PM
Well, there's always David Koresh.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Munson on August 04, 2019, 04:27:14 AM
Another one. Dayton OH. Double digits injured, no official word on deaths yet.

(https://i.giphy.com/media/2g9XfJzqTQpZ6/source.gif)
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Rome on August 04, 2019, 10:53:30 AM
This has to stop.  Now. 

No more.  Full goddamn stop.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: ice grillin you on August 04, 2019, 11:53:19 AM
Lol the President is literally telling people to do it.  So good luck with that. 
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on August 04, 2019, 12:15:47 PM
I'm sure the thoughts and prayers corksuckers will be out in full force today.

Two in one day? Targeting brown people in El Paso because Cheeto dick encourages it. Wonder what the shteinbag in Ohio reason was.

Sickening.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: SD on August 04, 2019, 12:39:55 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on August 04, 2019, 11:53:19 AM
Lol the President is literally telling people to do it.  So good luck with that.

Yup
QuoteTrump asks Florida rally crowd: "How do you stop these people" from crossing the border?

"Shoot them!" a rally attendee shouts out.

Trump laughs

Crowd laughs

Trump: "That's only in the panhandle you can get away with that stuff. Only in the panhandle."

https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2019/05/09/shoot-them-trump-laughs-off-supporters-demand-violence-against-migrants/
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Geowhizzer on August 04, 2019, 02:40:39 PM
Texas Lt. Governor Dan Patrick speaks on "Fair and Balanced" Fox about prayers for El Paso and the dangers of... video games?

https://twitter.com/aidnmclaughlin/status/1158021912532017152
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: ice grillin you on August 04, 2019, 02:50:52 PM
pretty sure a video game or mental illness didn't cause this dood to drive 600 miles to a pre determined target on the border with brown people and write a hate filled 3000 word white supremacy manifesto
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on August 04, 2019, 04:37:39 PM
Of course it didn't

But this is the repub talking point on these shootings. Dan Patrick is a loathsome piece of shtein. He had some awful comments after the Pulse shootings too.

His boss, Greg Abbott, said it was video games and the lack of prayer were the reasons.

Video games and prayer. That's what's being peddled as the cause and of course the GOP and their voters are gobbling it up. farg them.

On a side note the little cowardly shtein from Ohio shot and killed his sister in his rampage.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: General_Failure on August 04, 2019, 09:07:18 PM
The most popular video game in the world right now has you dress up like a banana and dab. I can see why people would be upset.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Rome on August 04, 2019, 09:25:19 PM
Alejandro Bedoya of the Union grabbed an on-field mike and demanded Congress do something about this insanity. 

Holy shtein.  ✊🏻
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Diomedes on August 04, 2019, 09:29:12 PM
Good guys with guns aren't getting it done.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: General_Failure on August 04, 2019, 09:41:03 PM
Clearly the good guys need more guns. And more Scheming Jew or Monkey Michelle Obama targets to practice with.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Munson on August 05, 2019, 03:00:07 PM
https://twitter.com/donmoyn/status/1157861679813877766?
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Tomahawk on August 05, 2019, 05:02:22 PM
Outside the headline, I have no idea what tucker said, but if an immigrant chooses to become a naturalized citizen,  then he is yet another American, without replacing a person with that preexisting condition
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Munson on August 05, 2019, 05:33:02 PM
https://twitter.com/Taniel/status/1158460281888169985 20
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on August 05, 2019, 07:52:42 PM
They're all vile and disgusting pigs on that network. Every last one of them.

Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Rome on August 05, 2019, 08:06:42 PM
Chris Hayes is going full on right now.  Wow.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on August 06, 2019, 04:12:24 PM
https://www.theadvocate.com/baton_rouge/news/crime_police/article_cae700c4-b86c-11e9-9f27-dff771536d92.html

Two shteinheads get into an argument and draw their guns

Bystander is shot

But please tell me moaaaar about how "good guys with guns" should be shooting in public
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Geowhizzer on August 06, 2019, 07:31:18 PM
https://twitter.com/BarackObama/status/1158453079035002881
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: ice grillin you on August 07, 2019, 07:43:07 AM
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on August 06, 2019, 04:12:24 PM
https://www.theadvocate.com/baton_rouge/news/crime_police/article_cae700c4-b86c-11e9-9f27-dff771536d92.html

Two shteinheads get into an argument and draw their guns

Bystander is shot

But please tell me moaaaar about how "good guys with guns" should be shooting in public

when the pistol blows a shot thats when a murdered be the tough luck...families farged up...could have got your man but didnt look when you bucked up
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Tomahawk on August 08, 2019, 09:32:28 AM
https://www.cnn.com/2019/08/06/us/feral-pigs-twitter-trnd/index.html

I neither hunt nor know much about animal behavior, but I bet if you shoot into a pack of 30-50 feral hogs, you might kill one but the sound of the gunshot will scare the other 29-49 away. I guess that means we need silencers for assault weapons
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: General_Failure on August 08, 2019, 09:35:38 AM
If you shoot into a pack of feral hogs, you're more likely to just make them all angry and not kill one.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Diomedes on August 08, 2019, 09:45:54 AM
Feral pigs are a holocaust to a farmer.  Kill 'em all.  Humans made the problem, it's our job to control it.  Silencers probably make sense for culling them.  If you have proper license, background check, store weapons safely, don't use them to shoot brown people....I'm good with it. 


Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Rome on August 08, 2019, 10:01:48 AM
Bacon.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: General_Failure on August 08, 2019, 12:16:28 PM
Quote from: Diomedes on August 08, 2019, 09:45:54 AM
If you have proper license, background check, store weapons safely, don't use them to shoot brown people

I can't help but think there's a fatal flaw in this idea.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Diomedes on August 08, 2019, 12:28:10 PM
Yeah, the number of people who manage to do all four of those is vanishingly small.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on August 08, 2019, 06:15:33 PM
Down in south Texas they hunt them from helicopters.

Reminiscing like it's Viet farging Nam
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: General_Failure on August 08, 2019, 08:06:26 PM
They're an invasive species with no predators, hunt them with ACME anvils for all I care.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on August 08, 2019, 08:20:51 PM
http://montgomerycountypolicereporter.com/active-shooter-reported-2-dead-after-gunman-opens-fire-on-i-10-at-federal/

Nbd just another one

This is on the east side of the city.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: General_Failure on August 09, 2019, 09:05:30 AM
Former firefighter stops man armed with 100 rounds of ammunition at south Springfield Walmart (https://www.ky3.com/content/news/Heavy-police-presence-at-Walmart-Neighborhood-Market-in-south-Springfield-528602951.html)

QuoteThe Springfield Police Department arrived on scene within three minutes of the call. Police stated that a young white male, appearing to be in his twenties, pulled up to the Walmart, where he donned body armor and military fatigues. Police say the man had tactical weapons.

Police then say the man walked into the Walmart: Neighborhood Market where he grabbed a cart and began pushing it around the store. Police say the man was recording himself walking through the store via a cell phone.

The store manager at the Neighborhood Market pulled a fire alarm, urging people to escape the store.

Police say the man then made his way out an emergency exit where a former firefighter held the man at gunpoint. At that moment Springfield Police arrived on scene and detained the man.

The fabled Good Guy with a Gun. Checkmate, liberals.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Diomedes on August 09, 2019, 09:40:34 AM
Store manager deserves a bonus for his decision making. 
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: General_Failure on August 09, 2019, 10:44:44 AM
He'll probably get fired for loss of sales.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: ice grillin you on August 09, 2019, 10:46:49 AM
At the very least dook was going to need a bunch of more bullets.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: hunt on August 09, 2019, 11:01:36 AM
great news, guys.  walmart has sent out a memo instructing their stores to take down displays & images of violent video games.  sure, they're still going to sell guns.  but those video games...  :poison
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: General_Failure on August 09, 2019, 11:30:30 AM
Imagine buying physical copies of video games from a brick and mortar store in the year 2019.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on August 09, 2019, 12:50:09 PM
Quote from: hunt on August 09, 2019, 11:01:36 AM
great news, guys.  walmart has sent out a memo instructing their stores to take down displays & images of violent video games.  sure, they're still going to sell guns.  but those video games...  :poison

I feel safer.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Geowhizzer on August 09, 2019, 01:12:31 PM
My son's grades and social life may be safer...
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: MDS on August 10, 2019, 03:29:39 PM
i miss any more mass shootings or just the 2
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: General_Failure on August 10, 2019, 10:43:00 PM
It's been ? days since the last national tragedy.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on August 14, 2019, 06:48:31 PM
North Philly getting in on the action today I see
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: phattymatty on August 14, 2019, 07:53:51 PM
dude has been in a shoot out with cops for several hours and apparently was or maybe still is live streaming much of it.

looks like 100 cops or so there, crazy shtein.

Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on August 14, 2019, 08:24:52 PM
I've been looking for the stream but couldn't find it

Amazing no one has been killed
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: MDS on August 14, 2019, 08:37:24 PM
whole country seeing what north philly do
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: MDS on August 14, 2019, 08:58:39 PM
black twitter named him jawn wick

philly > everywhere else
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on August 14, 2019, 09:18:38 PM
Saw a vid clip of residents pelting the cops with stuff...bad look on that one
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Tomahawk on August 14, 2019, 11:33:35 PM
farg the police > everything else
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: General_Failure on August 15, 2019, 12:58:43 AM
Did we cover this one yet? I've lost track. https://twitter.com/nytimes/status/1161785833806057473
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Rome on August 15, 2019, 07:28:26 AM
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on August 14, 2019, 09:18:38 PM
Saw a vid clip of residents pelting the cops with stuff...bad look on that one

Yes, optics are the problem, not systemic police corruption and abuse of those they've sworn to protect and serve. 
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on August 15, 2019, 08:01:25 AM
Quote from: Rome on August 15, 2019, 07:28:26 AM
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on August 14, 2019, 09:18:38 PM
Saw a vid clip of residents pelting the cops with stuff...bad look on that one

Yes, optics are the problem, not systemic police corruption and abuse of those they've sworn to protect and serve.

Well that's a concern too of course.

I just didn't think throwing garbage or food or whatever at cops while they're in a gunfight with some dude was the best idea
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Rome on August 15, 2019, 08:09:05 AM
It's not.  But murdering unarmed and innocent civilians isn't either. 

Until they reign themselves in expect to see more of this, which, of course, will cause them to be even more trigger-happy.

But more guns, though...
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: ice grillin you on August 15, 2019, 08:14:00 AM
more community policing....less guns and military style occupation
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: phattymatty on August 15, 2019, 10:49:43 AM
i was following along on some live Reddit thread yesterday and someone asked who the shooter was and the next guy said not ben simmons.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Rome on August 15, 2019, 11:01:23 AM
Holy shtein that's funny.  Wrong.  But funny. 
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on August 31, 2019, 06:41:07 PM
Been awhile, America!

TEXAS MASS SHOOTINGS:
- Various locations across Midland and Odessa
- ONE suspect, NOT two
- Suspect killed by police
- Up to 30 people shot
- At least 2 dead
- Multiple police officers shot
- Motive unknown
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: General_Failure on November 14, 2019, 11:36:20 AM
https://twitter.com/pzf/status/1195012683986325504
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on November 14, 2019, 12:59:18 PM
Ho bum nbd Merica
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on November 15, 2019, 08:49:46 PM
Shooting at a NJ HS football game in Pleasantville

Nothing more American than shooting people under the Friday night lights
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: General_Failure on November 15, 2019, 09:49:46 PM
Gotta show them kids that this is what happens when the NFL welcomes back that traitor Kaepernick with open arms.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Geowhizzer on December 14, 2019, 01:20:01 PM
Sandy Hook was seven years ago today.

https://twitter.com/WillieGeist/status/1205870180456443904
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: General_Failure on July 03, 2020, 06:29:22 PM
It's been a quiet year with all the quarantine stuff, but America's back, baby! https://twitter.com/ABC/status/1279173743777058821
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: SD on January 10, 2021, 03:50:53 PM
https://chicago.suntimes.com/crime/2021/1/10/22223590/videos-shooting-spree-gunman-jason-nightengale-chicago-evanston

Killed 3...put a bunch of others in critical condition. Died in a shootout with police
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: ice grillin you on January 10, 2021, 09:51:23 PM
"had some problems"
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: General_Failure on February 21, 2021, 02:15:46 PM
https://twitter.com/NYTNational/status/1363417939983159297
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Diomedes on February 21, 2021, 02:19:08 PM
A lot of people shot in that story, not clear who shot whom.  Gonna be a mess to tease that one apart.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on March 16, 2021, 11:03:36 PM
Time to dust off the thoughts and prayers from GOPers who voted against the expanded background checks.

https://twitter.com/jennifer__brett/status/1372012991546294272 21
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: phattymatty on March 17, 2021, 10:27:31 AM
dudes looks 100% like I would have guessed.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: MDS on March 17, 2021, 11:34:23 AM
he bought his guns hours before targeting asians and murdering them

america !!
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Diomedes on March 17, 2021, 08:02:43 PM
I think we have an incel here, not a racist.  He killed two white people also.  Probably named Chrystal and Brandi.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: General_Failure on March 17, 2021, 08:27:58 PM
Witnesses said he said he was going to kill every Asian in there. I mean, he could be both, but he definitely did a racism.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Diomedes on March 18, 2021, 07:08:13 AM
Oh?

I haven't read that. 

I'll pipe down until I know more.  I thought he e was probably a woman hater who decided to kill (what he thinks are) sex workers at massage parlors, most of whom happen to be Asian.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: ice grillin you on March 18, 2021, 08:26:15 AM
also the cop who was giving the presser who said that it wasnt a hate crime and is leading the investigation previously posted some racist china flu shtein on social media
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Diomedes on March 18, 2021, 08:51:01 AM
I saw that.  So inside the cruiser, he turns his camera off and says to the guy

Good work, son.  Send the vermin back to hell.
Thanks brah.
Look, the politically correct are gonna scream hate crime.  Tell 'em you're a sex addict. 
Yeah, that's smart.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on March 18, 2021, 09:31:06 AM
and the cop also said the killer "had a bad day"

Just like when the SC cops took Dylan Roof to get fast food...the soft handling of the killers is sickening.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: General_Failure on March 22, 2021, 05:45:25 PM
Another shooter in Colorado.

https://twitter.com/TakLandrock/status/1374110376195813376
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on March 22, 2021, 07:41:33 PM
Thoughts and prayers.

- GOP
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on March 23, 2021, 12:36:01 PM
Ahmad Al Aliwi Alissa
21yrs old

That's the shooter. FOX who did not cover the story much yesterday is now suddenly interested. I wonder why?

BTW - I watched the video and that dude looks like hes 51 not 21.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on April 08, 2021, 05:33:23 PM
Had one today at one of my customers.

Kent Moore Cabinets in Bryan/College Station.

Apparently eight people shot including a state trooper. Our contact there (purchasing agent) said someone at their assembly plant finished his shift and walked to his backpack and got his gun out and started mowing people down.

fargin crazy.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on April 16, 2021, 03:52:09 AM
https://twitter.com/abc/status/1382961444019314689 21
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on April 17, 2021, 11:22:42 PM
And not one GOP politician, "muh gunz" or "good guy with a gun" person will give a shtein.

This is a huge problem.

https://twitter.com/nytimes/status/1383619491788066820 21
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: General_Failure on May 30, 2021, 09:31:10 AM
https://twitter.com/Fox35Amy/status/1398982107502948362
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on December 03, 2021, 08:58:05 PM
The Cheeto Dick loving MAGAt scumbag parents of the most recent school shooter in Michigan have been charged and failed to turn themselves in.

https://twitter.com/usmarshalshq/status/1466895351139479564 21
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: ice grillin you on December 29, 2021, 01:03:13 AM
https://twitter.com/cosantifascists/status/1475992196847390725 21
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on December 29, 2021, 04:16:08 AM
Not shocking.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on April 12, 2022, 11:21:10 PM
The nyc subway shooter rented the uhaul in Philly and has an address in Philly too

One of those whack jobs who posts demented shtein online

https://www.nytimes.com/live/2022/04/12/nyregion/brooklyn-subway-shooting
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: MDS on April 12, 2022, 11:50:48 PM
is this is the first nutjob mass shooter that wasnt white
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Diomedes on April 13, 2022, 12:14:31 AM
No but there ain't many poc mass shooters who ain't gunning down they own people over a street beef
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Rome on May 14, 2022, 09:54:10 PM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FSvxhUOXoAIc0Vd?format=jpg&name=large)

This is the guy who slaughtered 10 black people and live streamed it on Twitch.

Note how the skinhead pig is gently loading him into the cruiser.   
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: SD on May 14, 2022, 11:59:41 PM
Obviously Antifa Soros paid
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on May 15, 2022, 01:50:08 AM
Wait

When did this happen
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Diomedes on May 15, 2022, 02:20:43 AM
A few hours ago
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: ice grillin you on May 15, 2022, 02:14:22 PM
the fact that the media went out of their way all week to cover peaceful protests in front of scotus judges houses like it was World War III and this is what closes the week is sickening beyond belief
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: MDS on May 15, 2022, 02:23:06 PM
turn women into baby factories so men can be free to go on murder sprees

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FS0Cmt7WQAEMBqc?format=jpg&name=large)
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on May 15, 2022, 06:23:26 PM
Two more today;

One at a church in Orange County CA
One at a flea market here in Houston
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: phattymatty on May 16, 2022, 04:52:11 PM
damn so apparently one of the cashiers in buffalo called 911 and the operator got an attitude and said why are you whispering and then hung up on her.  just a matter of time before the recording is released.  seems like this shtein is happening a lot - gotta either pay these MFers more money or get better people in these call centers. 
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on May 16, 2022, 06:58:54 PM
Oh shtein really?

That's disgusting.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: General_Failure on May 16, 2022, 08:56:00 PM
Are millennials ruining the emergency operator business?
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: MDS on May 24, 2022, 04:04:18 PM
another one at an elementary school...could be as bad as sandy hook

who cares tho
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on May 24, 2022, 05:10:28 PM
Jesus farging Christ this country...

https://twitter.com/ap/status/1529207588948172803 21&t=--aHIzIG1o9taFKgbjh0nw
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: SD on May 24, 2022, 05:35:26 PM
This countries a farging disgrace.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Rome on May 24, 2022, 05:41:03 PM
Thoughts and prayers forthcoming. 
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Munson on May 24, 2022, 06:04:48 PM
What a farging horribly depressing country to live in
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on May 24, 2022, 06:48:39 PM
Scumbag

https://twitter.com/tedcruz/status/1529190433091461123 21&t=--aHIzIG1o9taFKgbjh0nw
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: MDS on May 24, 2022, 07:13:29 PM
ted cruz would trade his daughters lives if it meant he could get re elected

these politicians are soulless ghouls devoid of empathy and the people in this country are beyond ignorant and stupid. why the farg are people mad or shocked. this is america....its like being apoplectic about the phillies blowing a 2 run lead in the 9th. oh no the thing that always happened happened again.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Rome on May 24, 2022, 07:14:08 PM
There are two ways this insanity stops:

1. We elect Democrats to enact common sense Gun legislation.

2. Wait until shtein gets real and people start killing politicians and their families. 

I hope it doesn't come to #2, but I was trying to imagine what my reaction would be if someone killed my baby girl in the schools she's preparing to teach at.  I really can't imagine it, actually.  It's beyond comprehension.  That's what those poor parents are going through right now. 

Imagine the rage.  The hopelessness.  The life draining from you as you contemplate trying to go on somehow.

Maybe the GOP monsters who continue on with business as usual need to experience that grief firsthand?    Although honestly, I doubt they'd change one damn bit.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: MDS on May 24, 2022, 07:36:53 PM
most politicians wouldnt care if their families were killed

joe manchin cares more about the fillibuster than your life

hope. less.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on May 24, 2022, 07:40:28 PM
Steve Kerr is always vocal. Love this

https://twitter.com/mikecwright/status/1529244446730113024 21&t=--aHIzIG1o9taFKgbjh0nw
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on May 24, 2022, 08:05:43 PM
We are up to 18 dead kids and 3 dead adults with 3 more people in critical condition

The Tees & Pees brigade is in full effect. Especially the scumbag gun farger politicians here
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: MDS on May 24, 2022, 08:09:29 PM
its a shame the people who want to commit mass violence do it at a supermarket or school and not a cruz family bbq
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: General_Failure on May 24, 2022, 08:14:39 PM
I can't believe antifa did a false flag massacre and planted years of false data about this fake shooter, including mental illness and online tirades.

Those things haven't actually come out yet, but they will.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on May 24, 2022, 08:21:15 PM
Why do we need body armor available to the public?

https://twitter.com/natashabertrand/status/1529255082914725888 21&t=CD9kO40V0fOAgraGT34MHA
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Rome on May 24, 2022, 08:36:17 PM
So the cops "engaged" him yet he still managed to get into the school and slaughter 20 people?

Ummm... wtf?
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on May 24, 2022, 08:39:17 PM
Uvalde isn't a very big city so I'm guessing they don't have a lot of training like the bigger cities do.

Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: General_Failure on May 24, 2022, 08:49:16 PM
I'm just assuming the officer was out of breath from getting out of the car and fumbling with his holster.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Diomedes on May 24, 2022, 09:09:30 PM
There's a self fulfilling cycle for people who want to destroy because we're already fighting natural entropy, so if you just want to get yours and farg everyone else, the odds are in your favor.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on May 24, 2022, 10:07:09 PM
Vile disgusting pigs

https://twitter.com/jonathanweisman/status/1529262453137227779 21&t=MjXx2pzMBS4KVpL7Fgibqg
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Munson on May 24, 2022, 11:26:18 PM
https://twitter.com/nikigriswold/status/1529291389711818753 21&t=AkfpCATbnEJ-a2ULBe68Lg
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: General_Failure on May 24, 2022, 11:54:52 PM
https://twitter.com/EoinHiggins_/status/1529257356135215105
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on May 24, 2022, 11:56:23 PM
All in the name of these cosplay MAGA motherfargers who want an armory of killing machines. And the blood continues to be on the hands of the gutless politicians who refuse to enact ANY sort of reform.

This weekend there's an NRA circle jerk here. Cheeto Dick, Cancun Ted and others are scheduled to speak. I hope people protest the shtein out of it. Speaking of which - those lowlife snowflakes got offended at people protesting in front of judges homes and enacted laws against it. But little kids get their faces blown off and not a one of those spineless losers will enact any firearm reform.

https://twitter.com/maggienyt/status/1529290325923188737 21&t=MjXx2pzMBS4KVpL7Fgibqg

Imagine that! You're a nine year old and you watch another kids face get shot off because why?!

Peruse the right wing nutjobs and you'll see the "derrrr define assault rifle lib" or whatever other things they like to say.

They'll never ban them completely.

So...

One month waiting period
No private gun show sales
Force owners to have insurance policies like with cars
If someone steals your gun because it's left in your car? Jail.
Mental health evaluation completed in the one month waiting period

None of that is "taking our gunzzzz" shtein. And no one should be against this. NO ONE.

And by the way - any of those shteinbirds who like to think they're living in 1779 and have firearms to protect them against governmental tyranny...newsflash iceholes...if the cops, feds or military decided to start rounding civilians up they're going to get you. You're not Rambo.

Half of those living in that fantasy land of fighting these people coming to get them (btw they shout back the blue...but they'd shoot the blue coming for them?!) would run out of breath running to their closet to get their gun.

farg.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on May 25, 2022, 12:00:27 AM
Quote from: General_Failure on May 24, 2022, 11:54:52 PM
https://twitter.com/EoinHiggins_/status/1529257356135215105

Is anyone shocked?

Why would the MAGAts miss an opportunity to shtein on the non-whites? Oh your kid is in the morgue and it's the worst day of your life? Sorry. Here's ICE to make it worse.

The minority in this country needs to stop winning because of the antiquated electoral college. But then again those clutching the pearls of the EC are also the ones grasping to the second amendment.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: General_Failure on May 25, 2022, 12:03:41 AM
Anyone who has ever fantasized about shooting someone who broke into their home is not fit to live among other human beings. Yet that's all they can think of when they say they want to protect their family. Didn't protect them from school shooters. Didn't protect them from covid. Didn't protect them from Reverend Jellyfinger. It's only ever the fantasy of shooting someone breaking into their house.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on May 25, 2022, 12:50:41 AM
Breaking into their house
Or
Catching someone breaking into their car
Or
Being the good guy with a gun in a public setting
Or
Confronting someone who cut them off

Any of the above applies to the gun nut. It's sick
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: SD on May 25, 2022, 04:20:20 AM
These deplorables are hyper focused on imaginary issues like don't say gay and crt...they can't pass legislation fast enough. This? Nothing.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: hunt on May 25, 2022, 08:44:55 AM
americans can't be trusted with guns. take them all away. all of them.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: ice grillin you on May 25, 2022, 08:51:37 AM
Quote from: TAFKASD on May 25, 2022, 04:20:20 AM
These deplorables are hyper focused on imaginary issues like don't say gay and crt...they can't pass legislation fast enough. This? Nothing.

They won't say it out loud but MAGA is quietly happy with this shooting cause it took place in a Hispanic community
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Munson on May 25, 2022, 09:07:56 AM
https://twitter.com/jarjarfan69/status/1529338584200798210 21&t=U38yXpfiHWaiGx_BLoy8Aw


Already seeing some ghouls celebrating that "good guy with a gun shot him"...you know, after he killed 19 kids. But it looks like cops were there, they shot at him, and that still didn't do shtein. Don't let anyone push that bullshtein narrative today.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on May 25, 2022, 11:01:41 AM
Quote from: ice grillin you on May 25, 2022, 08:51:37 AM
Quote from: TAFKASD on May 25, 2022, 04:20:20 AM
These deplorables are hyper focused on imaginary issues like don't say gay and crt...they can't pass legislation fast enough. This? Nothing.

They won't say it out loud but MAGA is quietly happy with this shooting cause it took place in a Hispanic community

Oh its already being said on some circles of that cult - and one of them mainstream idiots will say it eventually
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on May 25, 2022, 11:02:32 AM
Quote from: Munson on May 25, 2022, 09:07:56 AM
https://twitter.com/jarjarfan69/status/1529338584200798210 21&t=U38yXpfiHWaiGx_BLoy8Aw


Already seeing some ghouls celebrating that "good guy with a gun shot him"...you know, after he killed 19 kids. But it looks like cops were there, they shot at him, and that still didn't do shtein. Don't let anyone push that bullshtein narrative today.

BACK THE BLUE!
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: MDS on May 25, 2022, 11:04:20 AM
its not theyre happy its that they dont care. they didnt care when pure white babies died in sandy hook either.

at the herschel walker watch party (a thing that exists) they groaned and booed at the very topic...the base is beyond over it and doesnt give a shtein about mass gun violence. they view at just part of freedom.

Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: SD on May 25, 2022, 12:05:36 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on May 25, 2022, 08:51:37 AM
Quote from: TAFKASD on May 25, 2022, 04:20:20 AM
These deplorables are hyper focused on imaginary issues like don't say gay and crt...they can't pass legislation fast enough. This? Nothing.

They won't say it out loud but MAGA is quietly happy with this shooting cause it took place in a Hispanic community

You're giving them way too much credit.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Munson on May 25, 2022, 01:49:50 PM
Holy shtein Beto O'rourke
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Munson on May 25, 2022, 01:56:34 PM
https://twitter.com/momof351929068/status/1529520937774764034 21&t=6jjoQvmRdfedFPuFixiqnw
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: SD on May 25, 2022, 02:18:04 PM
I guess Beto's not entitled to free speech
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on May 25, 2022, 02:44:18 PM
Love Beto.

farg Dan Patrick, Greg Abbott, Ken Paxton and the rest of them.

I really want Beto to win. But he's fighting a massive uphill battle.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: phattymatty on May 25, 2022, 04:19:02 PM
so there were 3 cops at the school and the kid was not actually wearing armor? 

what is the point of police then?  if we need police at all maybe we should incentivize them so we don't get the dumbest and least athletic people possible.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: General_Failure on May 25, 2022, 04:24:10 PM
Getting the dumbest is a design feature, not a bug.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Rome on May 25, 2022, 06:47:59 PM
The fat fouled mouthed lard ass screaming at Beto needed to get got right then and there.

I would have loved to see them all draw down too.   Blast away, all of ya.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Munson on May 25, 2022, 09:49:18 PM
https://twitter.com/bradmossesq/status/1529234505734623232 21&t=t7QCNx8svOh8ECDW3l8A4A
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on May 25, 2022, 10:55:32 PM
farging Hoydas. Absolute horseshtein.

Maybe that scumbag redneck mayor, rather than yelling at Beto, can dress down his police chief and officers for their abject failure in protecting kids.

And the GOP fargs who love to tweet about the hero first responders can eat a fleshpop too.

FORTY MINUTES

https://twitter.com/brianbeutler/status/1529653482994933761 21&t=medNOdDKga5SKBvLPP0fNg
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on May 25, 2022, 11:14:40 PM
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/teacher-uvalde-texas-describes-longest-35-minutes-life-rcna30571

"They've been practicing for this day for years,"

How farged is this?

American, baby!

Where the gun nuts will not welcome ANY reform at all but little kids have to practice active shooter drills.

This is sickening.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Diomedes on May 26, 2022, 07:08:12 AM
video of cops keeping parents from approaching school as the shooting is unfolding--and they refuse to enter themselves--is harrowing...wonder how the cops would be doing if some of those parents were armed and trying to get past them
I'll wait for facts to be established but this doesn't look like an example of bravery and service to the community at all
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: ice grillin you on May 26, 2022, 08:07:34 AM
i saw a story on the mayor of uvaldi which is 80% hispanic and this guy is a anti immigrant white supremacist....80% of the cops probably are as well
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: SD on May 26, 2022, 08:18:29 AM
Quote from: Diomedes on May 26, 2022, 07:08:12 AM
video of cops keeping parents from approaching school as the shooting is unfolding--and they refuse to enter themselves--is harrowing...wonder how the cops would be doing if some of those parents were armed and trying to get past them
I'll wait for facts to be established but this doesn't look like an example of bravery and service to the community at all

He barricaded himself in the classroom for over an hour, those cowardice cops waited for tactical units to arrive before he was engaged. Wacko had an AR and body armor the cops only had their handguns. They're farging cowards. 
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Munson on May 26, 2022, 10:32:50 AM
https://twitter.com/jbouie/status/1529813261427802115 21&t=GaH1zKTb5weVM0lt1IkX-A
https://twitter.com/jbouie/status/1529815742320979968 21&t=GaH1zKTb5weVM0lt1IkX-A

I think this is a good point for the "it goes beyond guns, something is wrong with society" talking point. Maybe a society whose leaders are constantly throwing up their arms and saying "welp nothing we can do" about gun violence or health care or covid-19 or etc etc etc...leads to more people thinking nothing is important and nothing matters
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: phattymatty on May 26, 2022, 10:50:15 AM
Most of the cops pictures and names that are coming out today appear to be Hispanic, so my first reaction is that they're just utterly incompetent and too talentless to get another job rather than being racists. 
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: MDS on May 26, 2022, 12:21:07 PM
Quote from: Munson on May 26, 2022, 10:32:50 AM
I think this is a good point for the "it goes beyond guns, something is wrong with society" talking point. Maybe a society whose leaders are constantly throwing up their arms and saying "welp nothing we can do" about gun violence or health care or covid-19 or etc etc etc...leads to more people thinking nothing is important and nothing matters

people dont get cues from leaders...leaders take cues from people. republicans dont run fox news, the audience does. everything is programed to the base and everything R's do falls in line with what their base tells them even if its getting people killed.

if you expect ted cruz or louie gohmert to go against what their core and noncore voters say, you dont quite understand the ignorance of the american people
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: MDS on May 26, 2022, 12:26:16 PM
this is really good stuff and gets to the heart of the issue...cruz knows precisely why violent mass murder happens in america and america only. it is politically inconvenient for him to admit it and he has no answer for it so he attacks and bails. this is what we are dealing with...abject cowardice from leaders and abject cowardice from voters who continue to make these people leaders. two halves of a whole.

https://twitter.com/RexChapman/status/1529851537790476288
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: SD on May 26, 2022, 01:06:01 PM
He's so god damn punchable.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Rome on May 26, 2022, 01:18:57 PM
Judging by the sheriffs actions yesterday, I'm 100% sure he ordered his deputies to stand down.

He wanted those kids dead. 

They're monsters and I hope he and his cowardly farging force burn for this. 
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: SD on May 26, 2022, 03:02:24 PM
Everyone remember this classic

https://youtu.be/6imFvSua3Kg

Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Munson on May 26, 2022, 10:30:41 PM
I mean, I'll say it...I do indeed want to take away all the guns.

Or, at a minimum, I want to pack the court and have them interpret the 2nd amendment way differently than it currently is, and overturn Heller.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Diomedes on May 27, 2022, 07:29:34 AM
Husband of one of the victims dead from heart attack.

Some of those cops who stood around are going to die sooner than they otherwise would as well, either by outright suicide (which would honorable) or by shaving years off their lives with drink food and pills.  The rest of them will sleep like babies and live long happy lives.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: SD on May 27, 2022, 07:45:24 AM
Quote from: Diomedes on May 27, 2022, 07:29:34 AM
Husband of one of the victims dead from heart attack.

Some of those cops who stood around are going to die sooner than they otherwise would as well, either by outright suicide (which would honorable) or by shaving years off their lives with drink food and pills.  The rest of them will sleep like babies and live long happy lives.

The cover up and disinformation of the actual events is pathetic. Restraining parents who just wanted to save their childs life is despicable. I wish no harm on anyone and I don't pretend to know what it's like to walk in someone else's shoes but if I was on scene and just stood by I'd put a bullet in my head eventually. I couldn't live with that guilt.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Diomedes on May 27, 2022, 07:52:22 AM
Also, I may have said it when it was first posted, but man, do I wish Obama had responded to the bullshtein line about Chicago having strictest gun laws by pointing out that it's an island surrounded by places where anyone can get a gun any time etc., so there's only so much the City can do about the proliferation of guns. 

Also..that old angry white dude is probably dead by now, right?  COVID got him, if not obesity and old age?  Buh-bye dude.  You've been replaced.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: ice grillin you on May 27, 2022, 08:53:27 AM
Quote from: TAFKASD on May 27, 2022, 07:45:24 AM
Quote from: Diomedes on May 27, 2022, 07:29:34 AM
Husband of one of the victims dead from heart attack.

Some of those cops who stood around are going to die sooner than they otherwise would as well, either by outright suicide (which would honorable) or by shaving years off their lives with drink food and pills.  The rest of them will sleep like babies and live long happy lives.

The cover up and disinformation of the actual events is pathetic. Restraining parents who just wanted to save their childs life is despicable. I wish no harm on anyone and I don't pretend to know what it's like to walk in someone else's shoes but if I was on scene and just stood by I'd put a bullet in my head eventually. I couldn't live with that guilt.

you are making a huge assumption that they care even a little bit about brown children....its probably why they didn't go in in the first place
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: SD on May 27, 2022, 09:27:44 AM
From the limited videos I saw it looked like some of the officers on scene were "brown people". Also there were officers and first responders who had kids in that school.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on May 27, 2022, 01:54:17 PM
I was disconnected yesterday from news (got shteinfaced with some friends) but I just read that the DPS (state troopers) said in their PC this morning that they assumed that it was a barricaded suspect and not an active shooter by the time they arrived.

Jesus Christ.

Also reading about how kids played dead by smearing blood on themselves.

What a farged up country we are.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Munson on May 27, 2022, 02:47:14 PM
Good time to remember with all the arguments about what's "constitutional" that all laws are made up as are how the scotus interpretes the amendments. Listening to right wing "strict constitutionalists" yammer on about how you'd need a brand new amendment to do ____ is annoying AF.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on May 27, 2022, 06:27:27 PM
This literal shtein for brains was actually President

https://twitter.com/acyn/status/1530311024103985152 21&t=PKKG46dGpoDBccZB8mwnDQ
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Munson on May 27, 2022, 06:48:16 PM
https://twitter.com/ronfilipkowski/status/1530307705923162119 21&t=joLKyR_1_3Hue_QN7c5B8g
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: SD on May 27, 2022, 09:22:58 PM
That's farging despicable

Ironic it's an nra convention but they're not allowed to bring their guns in the arena.

I hope they all die slow farging deaths
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Rome on May 28, 2022, 06:38:40 AM
So it turns out the cowards went in to pull their own kids out and left the others to die in terror. 

But Back The Blue, though. 

Also - 40% of the town's budget goes to the PD.  So 4 out of every 10 bucks the parents paid in taxes went to guys who stood by while their babies were slaughtered. 

Yeah, what is is Ice Cube said?  Something like farg THE POLICE?

Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: SD on May 28, 2022, 06:54:39 AM
Quote from: Rome on May 28, 2022, 06:38:40 AM
So it turns out the cowards went in to pull their own kids out and left the others to die in terror. 

But Back The Blue, though. 

Also - 40% of the town's budget goes to the PD.  So 4 out of every 10 bucks the parents paid in taxes went to guys who stood by while their babies were slaughtered. 

Yeah, what is is Ice Cube said?  Something like farg THE POLICE?

Kids who were still alive 30-40 minutes in at the time called whispering please send police officers while those farging cowards stood outside for an hour. There were 3 police on scene within 2 minutes. Every one of them, the gop and the nra can rot in farging hell.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Diomedes on May 28, 2022, 11:28:18 AM
This story is super emotional and hard to think about....one pretty emotional thing I keep returning to is:  what would I do if this were my kids?  If I'm suddenly not a Dad anymore?  And the guy who did it is dead.  There will be no justice.  And clearly, my government won't do anything about it.  I've no longer got anything to live for....why don't I spend a few years figuring out a way to make someone pay, someone like the NRA, or the death cult gun nut GOP?  I'm a smart enough guy, capable enough, with time and a burning coal of hatred, I could leave a whole bunch of dead Republicans if I wanted to.  But hundreds of parents have been in that position...and none of them, not one, has blown up the NRA headquarters.  Why not?  Why do people keep taking this and doing nothing about it?  How long can it continue before some grieved parent, or surviving sibling, decides farg it...if you can't beat them, join them, and strike back?

(I'm talking from emotion here, Mr. FBI, so if you gotta call me when you read this, fine, it's your job....but you didn't call this punk when he was posting actual threats, so if you call, I'm gonna heap a ration of shtein on you for utterly failing us.)
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: General_Failure on May 28, 2022, 12:39:26 PM
I'm pretty sure those parents immediately go on a watch list just to prevent that exact thing.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Diomedes on May 28, 2022, 01:06:52 PM
The budget for that effort must be huge and growing, and begs the question:  They've got the will and capacity to turn the surviving victims of violence into subjects for surveillance and monitoring, but not the perpetrators, who are busily announcing their plans to the public?

Hmmm....maybe the all cops are bastiches crowd has the right of it?
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Rome on May 28, 2022, 02:42:35 PM
They called in outside popo for protection already.   

I saw a tweet where someone was blubbering go over the possibility that the cowards might start killing themselves and OMG how sad that would be. 

If they had an ounce of integrity they would have already eaten their guns.  But nope.  Poor misunderstood cops.  Boo hoo.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Rome on May 28, 2022, 02:43:15 PM
They called in outside popo for protection already.   

I saw a tweet where someone was blubbering over the possibility that the cowards might start killing themselves and OMG how sad that would be. 

If they had an ounce of integrity they would have already eaten their guns.  But nope.  Poor misunderstood cops.  Boo hoo.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on May 30, 2022, 12:56:35 AM
Quote from: Diomedes on May 28, 2022, 11:28:18 AM
This story is super emotional and hard to think about....one pretty emotional thing I keep returning to is:  what would I do if this were my kids?  If I'm suddenly not a Dad anymore?  And the guy who did it is dead.  There will be no justice.  And clearly, my government won't do anything about it.  I've no longer got anything to live for....why don't I spend a few years figuring out a way to make someone pay, someone like the NRA, or the death cult gun nut GOP?  I'm a smart enough guy, capable enough, with time and a burning coal of hatred, I could leave a whole bunch of dead Republicans if I wanted to.  But hundreds of parents have been in that position...and none of them, not one, has blown up the NRA headquarters.  Why not?  Why do people keep taking this and doing nothing about it?  How long can it continue before some grieved parent, or surviving sibling, decides farg it...if you can't beat them, join them, and strike back?

(I'm talking from emotion here, Mr. FBI, so if you gotta call me when you read this, fine, it's your job....but you didn't call this punk when he was posting actual threats, so if you call, I'm gonna heap a ration of shtein on you for utterly failing us.)

Yep. I've wondered that myself - why we haven't seen any rogue or even organized actions against those who empower the gun nuts. The grief one has to feel from losing a child in this manner is unconscionable. And when it happens those parents and family members have to endure people like Cruz, Patrick, Abbott and their ilk simply giving lip service, thoughts and prayers and things that will not help.

I've been reading a lot about this and each day it gets worse for the Uvalde police. And each day that passes a GOP pol steps deeper into shtein with some ridiculous comparisons. That dumbass Boebert said "after 9/11 we didn't ban planes".

Every talking point from previous shootings has been (even though we knew it before) has been proven wrong or shown to simply be lip service

Good guy with a gun - wrong
How many good guys with guns were there?

Back the blue - wrong
How farged was the Uvalde PD's response? I mean they farging restrained parents while a lunatic was murdering children nearby. We can throw the DPS into the mix here too and the Texas Rangers. At some point someone from a state agency has to usurp the locals. One of the agencies even had the balls to say something along the lines of "well we didn't want any officers to get shot"

Police forces need military equipment - wrong
All those weapons and vehicles and whatnot and they didn't have the courage to confront the shooter.

Defunding law enforcement - wrong
40% of the city's budget goes to the PD

Mental health problem - true but...
Abbott slashed the states budget on that by $211m. And if you guys didn't hear Beto say it the Harris County Jail here is the states biggest mental health facility. That's farged.

Everything about this is sickening. I can't stop thinking about the timelines being released; the children repeatedly calling 911 and asking for help and the cops were right outside. The little girl who had to play dead by smearing her friends blood on herself? JFC.

And you know what? Not a farging thing is going to change. Not one.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: MDS on May 30, 2022, 09:51:21 AM
why not just assassinate republican senators...like if youre gonna go out take ted cruz with you
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Diomedes on May 30, 2022, 02:48:15 PM
Elevates him too much.  He doesn't deserve assassination. 

I mean Christ, they've turned that ranting idiot nobody who got herself killed on Jan 6 into Mother Theresa.  You'd hate to see what they'd do with a murdered Cruz or Tucker...as nice as it would be to be rid of them...
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Diomedes on May 31, 2022, 09:58:34 AM
worth reading:


https://www.thetrace.org/2022/05/nra-convention-houston-2022-schools/
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Munson on May 31, 2022, 07:37:11 PM
Cops got caught lying again, this time about the teacher leaving the door open. Now they're not cooperating with the investigation by the state anymore. Lol
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: SD on May 31, 2022, 09:11:23 PM
Quote from: Munson on May 31, 2022, 07:37:11 PM
Cops got caught lying again, this time about the teacher leaving the door open. Now they're not cooperating with the investigation by the state anymore. Lol

They should all be charged but it's Texas so Abbott will probably give them medals then talk about voter fraud, abortion and border control
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Diomedes on May 31, 2022, 10:18:57 PM
my brain has already moved on from thiis thing to the point that I see this thread with a new post and I think....oh, another one?

won't be long
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on May 31, 2022, 11:54:49 PM
As Sen Chris Murphy pointed out there has been ten mass shootings in the week since Uvalde we just don't hear about them as much or if at all...because they're normal now.

I'm still hung up on Uvalde because of how farged the police response was and as more cokes out I keep rooting for more people to be exposed.

Now the teacher whom the cops said propped the door open? Turns out she didn't.

And the Uvalde ISD chief was sworn in as a city council member today. While his dept and the city cops are now refusing to cooperate with the state investigators.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on June 01, 2022, 07:22:43 PM
And another...

https://twitter.com/poojaontv/status/1532139794611970048 21&t=0Ch13auZVmnGEW3ohT55pA
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on June 03, 2022, 04:11:25 PM
Ol Pete continues to look worse. You'd think criminally negligent.

Nah. USA!

https://twitter.com/jdavidgoodman/status/1532784506465398787 21&t=ceZRG6wL6JSHPNwhrYHkog
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: SD on June 05, 2022, 10:20:44 AM
It's long overdue but now
Philly is slammin'
Boyz II Men, ABC, BBD
The East Coast family
Never skipped a beat (nah)
While cooling on South street

https://www.inquirer.com/news/south-street-shootings-philadelphia-police-three-dead-20220605.html?outputType=amp

https://abcnews.go.com/US/13-injured-dead-philadelphia-shooting-police/story?id=85190991
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on June 08, 2022, 12:39:25 AM
Mcconaughey's white house presser was on point today
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: MDS on June 08, 2022, 07:50:02 PM
i biked past the shooting site today

there were flowers, well one bouquet on the corner of 3rd and south. some glass next to the ritas that had been shattered was boarded up. otherwise youd have no idea it happened. everything else was normal.

we have beyond normalized gun violence in this country. nobody and i mean nobody gives a shtein.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on June 09, 2022, 04:53:05 PM
https://twitter.com/nytimes/status/1534999270004248578 21&t=Fq-S_P2ye88YjTyEvNzVBA
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: phattymatty on June 09, 2022, 06:23:44 PM
3 dead at factory in bumblefarg Maryland.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Diomedes on June 09, 2022, 08:03:14 PM
It's basically impossible to kill three people with the weaponry that was in production at the time the Constitution was written.

Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on June 09, 2022, 10:19:33 PM
This farging guy

https://twitter.com/mike_hixenbaugh/status/1535080435797327873 21&t=2IEYf76FeTc0ZwjCY_N52g
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on June 18, 2022, 07:43:40 PM
In addition to the city and the PD hiring a private law firm o suppress the release of information we have this disgusting news

https://twitter.com/joshuafechter/status/1538281517079834624 21&t=PaW0EebTlyWBDUbJH69pQg
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Diomedes on June 19, 2022, 09:56:42 AM
Pigs
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Rome on June 19, 2022, 10:47:05 AM
"No guns were killed in the latest incident of mental health breakdown."

- NRA
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on June 20, 2022, 07:20:50 PM
What the hell. So they stood out there forever while he picked kids off

https://twitter.com/statesman/status/1539009067418537984 21&t=9gNxUZrRQqKDRM0G_GazqA
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: MDS on June 20, 2022, 10:14:34 PM
police are not there to protect you or your kids...they protect the inherited power structure
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on July 01, 2022, 12:00:58 AM
We are living in one farged up society.

https://twitter.com/shannonrwatts/status/1542489585665511424 21&t=U1P-fb0ntNkpZDBj6qPrnA
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on July 04, 2022, 12:59:33 PM
Shooting in America on its birthday?

USA!

https://twitter.com/lynnsweet/status/1543992717105135617 21&t=HcPrrqHpX52EBMC83n_QBw
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on July 04, 2022, 01:37:13 PM
Five dead and 16 injured

https://twitter.com/lynnsweet/status/1543993857980891139 21&t=HcPrrqHpX52EBMC83n_QBw
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: MDS on July 04, 2022, 05:19:55 PM
america, where 10 year olds raped by their uncle cant get abortion (and nobody rats out the uncle), where you are apt to die at a suburban july 4th parade and where the police harass you for having the chutzpah to care about your 6 year old dying in a school shooting

what a great place
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: General_Failure on July 04, 2022, 08:39:26 PM
Where do you even find a bulletproof school bag for a 10 year old, anyway?
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on July 04, 2022, 09:55:25 PM
Quote from: General_Failure on July 04, 2022, 08:39:26 PM
Where do you even find a bulletproof school bag for a 10 year old, anyway?

I'm surprised the king of all grifters isn't selling them on his website.

Anyways the little shteinbird who did this is a Trumper
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on July 04, 2022, 10:53:35 PM
And now reports of a shooting on the parkway in phila during the fireworks - reportedly two cops shot
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: MDS on July 04, 2022, 11:03:44 PM
i almost got dragged there tonight...its a suck fest even without the bullets so thankfully for a variety of reasons i didnt go
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: SD on July 05, 2022, 12:02:30 AM
Radical domestic terrorism
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on July 12, 2022, 08:58:54 PM
This video was obtained by a TV station and the Austin newspaper. They showed the families first and received permission to release it.

Jesus farging Christ what a cowardly bunch of cops.

And Uvalde had a press conference tonight and of course they're blaming the media.

https://twitter.com/yashar/status/1546955421243478016 21&t=jlOv5o0SrDVgaJc9JWxjWw
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: General_Failure on July 13, 2022, 10:14:55 AM
Nothing surprising there, really. Police departments actively filter out anyone who isn't exactly like this.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: General_Failure on July 18, 2022, 07:45:43 AM
https://www.fox3now.com/active-shooter-reported-at-greenwood-park-mall-in-indianapolis/
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: SD on July 18, 2022, 02:21:11 PM
Killed by a "Good Samaritan". See the system works only 4 people died. farging despicable the right celebrates this.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on September 08, 2022, 08:21:56 PM
Good lord

https://twitter.com/tplohetski/status/1568018420200837120 46&t=pKwA49zHHevdqH1zgv6bnA
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: SD on September 08, 2022, 08:32:35 PM
Don't bother calling 911 cops ain't gonna do shtein
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Geowhizzer on September 08, 2022, 08:44:15 PM
They're looking for the keys to open up the park as we speak.

This country is farged.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: MDS on September 08, 2022, 10:23:10 PM
abbott blamed it on "gang violence" aka negroes/spics
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: General_Failure on November 20, 2022, 11:44:53 AM
https://twitter.com/kylegriffin1/status/1594290743321018368
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: ice grillin you on November 20, 2022, 12:20:51 PM
this country is so farged
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Munson on November 23, 2022, 11:37:11 AM
The right wingers not jerking off all over tv and Twitter about the fact that a combat veteran stopped a mass shooter with his bare hands tells you all you need to know about who they think "deserves it"/has it coming to them?
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on November 23, 2022, 12:14:32 PM
farg them.

Who stopped this one?

https://twitter.com/ap/status/1595463940225499136 46&t=BZJNDw4huSN4-d48d9kodw
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Diomedes on November 23, 2022, 12:19:17 PM
unarmed patron at a gay bar did more than scores of armed cops could manage at Uvalde

Founders would never have allowed common people to carry semi automatic pistols (which were not invented at the time) nevermind semi auto rifles, etc.

Gonna need to repeal 2A
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: SD on January 22, 2023, 12:31:24 PM
10 dead in Monterey CA

https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2023-01-22/la-me-monterey-park-mass-shooting
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: ice grillin you on January 22, 2023, 01:48:18 PM
no one cares and our country died a long time ago
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Diomedes on January 22, 2023, 02:12:56 PM
I dint understand why this story gets front page treatment but no one seems to care about all the fatal mass stabbings
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on January 22, 2023, 02:20:21 PM
Have they identified a shooter?
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: MDS on January 22, 2023, 02:49:23 PM
it was an asian dude (rare) but he did it because he was angry at some woman and wanted inflict damage (common) but was ultimately a deranged person with easy access to a weapon of war (every day in the great old usa)
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: General_Failure on January 22, 2023, 03:20:57 PM
Quote from: Diomedes on January 22, 2023, 02:12:56 PM
I dint understand why this story gets front page treatment but no one seems to care about all the fatal mass stabbings

Knives don't have the lobbying power that guns do. Also, mall ninjas aren't a big enough demographic in the US for voting or campaign contributions.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: MDS on January 22, 2023, 09:05:07 PM
72 year old mass shooter

that is a new one
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Diomedes on January 23, 2023, 05:15:56 AM
I feel like we've had that before at abortion clinics?
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: ice grillin you on January 23, 2023, 09:09:12 PM
ho hum
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Geowhizzer on January 23, 2023, 09:55:04 PM
Another one today.

https://twitter.com/GiffordsCourage/status/1617700285018951681
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: SD on January 23, 2023, 09:59:21 PM
T&P
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: MDS on January 23, 2023, 10:24:14 PM
who gives a shtein
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on January 23, 2023, 11:08:13 PM
A way of life.

The populace getting dumber by the day with "the jab" shtein. Mass shootings as common as they ever have been. Politicians getting away with whatever they want to. Books being yanked off shelves. States re-writing and whitewashing history.

USA!
USA!
USA!
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on March 22, 2023, 12:15:44 AM
https://www.texastribune.org/2023/03/20/uvalde-shooting-police-ar-15/

As if we needed more proof that civilians shouldn't have access to the AR's.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: MDS on March 27, 2023, 12:45:06 PM
we got one a loony jesus school in tenny...cant wait to see what the freedom loving parents now with dead and or traumatized children think about assault weapons
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on March 27, 2023, 01:31:51 PM
We had the old Asian guy a few months ago and now we have a teen girl

https://twitter.com/cbsnews/status/1640405849758744596 46&t=Uib2YOn6CJgx-z2RaE9o7Q
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Rome on March 27, 2023, 01:56:35 PM
I think the most important thing to remember is at least there wasn't a drag show or a class explaining LGBTQ rights going on prior to the shooting. 

The victims' parents and family members will always have that to hold onto. 
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Diomedes on March 27, 2023, 02:13:09 PM
clearly someone showed the shooter a photo of Leonardo's David and it caused her to lose her mind
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: MDS on March 27, 2023, 02:29:30 PM
it being a jesus freak school in a church she was probably abused and/or raped by someone in that place, it was covered up and this was the end result

go christianity go
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Diomedes on March 27, 2023, 03:47:22 PM
or maybe she was an atheist who hates believers?  was she all dressed in black, listening to the Smiths?
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: SD on March 27, 2023, 04:59:41 PM
Jon Stewart annihilates shall not be infringed rep

https://youtu.be/tCuIxIJBfCY

Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Munson on March 27, 2023, 05:37:19 PM
https://twitter.com/oneunderscore__/status/1640387323173957636 46&t=SMD_81TvVT-H5sNwmpVLIQ
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Rome on March 27, 2023, 07:11:17 PM
Quote from: Diomedes on March 27, 2023, 03:47:22 PM
or maybe she was an atheist who hates believers?  was she all dressed in black, listening to the Smiths?

Stop me if you think that you've heard this one before?

Girlfriend in a coma?

So many choices...
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on March 27, 2023, 11:51:26 PM
JFC this article...what a great, yet terrifying and hauntingly sad, piece of journalism. Especially when you get to the end and how it illustrates time.


https://twitter.com/fenitn/status/1640440106979827717 46&t=Uib2YOn6CJgx-z2RaE9o7Q
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Munson on March 28, 2023, 03:33:15 PM
Yeah that thing is rough. The Sandy hook kid they used for it has similar complexion to my kid and similar hair color, though a little darker. fargin hell.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on April 10, 2023, 12:19:03 PM
Another one - this time in Louisville.

146 mass shootings in 100 days in 2023
15 mass shootings so far this month

And ain't a damn thing gonna change.

U-S-A!
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Rome on April 10, 2023, 01:35:41 PM
Permitless carry is going to be fun here in fargtopia. 

Also - I won't be a hypocrite and suggest I don't support responsible gun ownership.  I do.  But there is no reason anyone needs weapons of war.  Then again, the way things are going, we just might.

I wonder how different things would be if the children of politicians were taken out and killed in cold blood whenever one of these mass killings occur?  Five people slaughtered?  Boom.  Senator NRA loses a five year old.  We could televise them even.  Sell tickets and shtein. 
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on April 10, 2023, 01:38:14 PM
We have the permitless carry here. Its about as you'd expect - everyone has a gun. We have almost daily road rage shootings too.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: MDS on April 10, 2023, 03:10:59 PM
Quote from: Rome on April 10, 2023, 01:35:41 PM
I wonder how different things would be if the children of politicians were taken out and killed in cold blood whenever one of these mass killings occur? 

theyre all sociopaths who care more about power than life, let alone their childrens lives. each one of them would gladly sacrifice their kids for their job.

and there is no such thing as responsible gun ownership. a few common sense things would eliminate *some* of the school shootings but the only way to eliminate mass gun violence is a full on ban or extreme restrictions on ownership which has zero political capital even among democrats. just hope the bullet dont find you
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: phattymatty on April 10, 2023, 03:15:59 PM
If the Louisville bank only had armed security guards....
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Rome on April 10, 2023, 07:19:45 PM
I grew up hunting and fishing.  Was taught how to assemble, disassemble, clean and safely store shotguns, rifles and pistols from an early age.  The thing is the wackos are never giving their guns up.  I don't care how many laws are passed. I don't care if Ronnie Reagan himself came down from the clouds and touched each of them on the dick.  They would all rather die than surrender their substitutes for penises and their Daddy's love. 

And that's the crux of it everywhere.  Liberals would gladly give them up if it meant everyone did, but right now there ain't no way on Earth they're getting mine, because the mirrored sunglasses wearing Jeep riding gun nuts out there would gladly kill all of us before they ever give them up. 
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Diomedes on April 10, 2023, 09:39:49 PM
Two stellar posts on a row, easy does it now!
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: SD on April 29, 2023, 09:42:20 AM
Jays neck of the woods. 5 dead including an 8 year old.

https://www.click2houston.com/news/local/2023/04/29/5-people-dead-after-shooting-in-san-jacinto-county/

If only Texas had looser gun laws there might have been a good guy with a gun.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on April 29, 2023, 11:07:34 AM
A disgustingly sad story to wake up to this morning.

Cleveland is hickville.

Neighbors tell the dude to stop popping his AR off in the front yard so he executes them.

Reportedly a Mexican National and everyone killed were Hondurans.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: General_Failure on April 29, 2023, 11:12:57 AM
So you're saying in Texas it was reported as a feel good story.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Diomedes on April 29, 2023, 12:37:24 PM
All shootings are celebrated in Texas.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on April 30, 2023, 10:17:33 AM
Pretty much in the sense of

1. Well if the (insert victim of ANY crime) were armed and practicing their second ammendment rights maybe they wouldn't have been subjected to said crime or been able to neutralize the threat

2. Reading NextDoor app with all the nutjobs and when some screeching Karen posts about how someone rang her doorbell it's met with "arm yourself" replies
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on April 30, 2023, 10:48:54 PM
And the greaseball Governor here responds by offering $50k for the capture of the person responsible for killing "five illegal immigrants"

Total farging shteinbag
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: MDS on May 06, 2023, 06:14:40 PM
we got a live one in allen, texas

richie rich suburb of dallas. this one took place at some swanky mall. ted cruz doesnt care.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on May 06, 2023, 06:22:57 PM
USA USA USA!

thoughts and prayers and all that
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on May 06, 2023, 08:17:46 PM
I regret scrolling Twitter reading details. Came across a video of the bodies to include a child with their brains no longer intact.

farg this world
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on May 07, 2023, 01:08:42 AM
Just absolutely sickening.

https://twitter.com/bfriedmandc/status/1655068065954971650 46&t=Uib2YOn6CJgx-z2RaE9o7Q
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on May 07, 2023, 01:09:21 AM
On the new software do we need to do something different to post tweets?
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: General_Failure on May 07, 2023, 09:06:00 AM
I just have to fix the filter for it again. Or you can strip off everything at the end starting with the question mark
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Diomedes on May 07, 2023, 09:29:45 AM
I suppose those kids should have been strapped up?

If either of my kids gets shot up the FBI will need to watch me for the rest of my life; I'll find a way to make the gun lovers pay.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on May 07, 2023, 01:07:14 PM
Thanks GF.

And Dio I'm surprised people haven't done that yet. Whether at court hearings for the suspect (when they live) or just going after the most ardent "gunzzzz" people.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: MDS on May 07, 2023, 05:33:09 PM
shooter was a neo nazi. cannot believe this.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on May 07, 2023, 08:22:12 PM
Wayyyymint

He was a Mexican neo Nazi?
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Munson on May 07, 2023, 08:53:15 PM
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on May 06, 2023, 08:17:46 PMI regret scrolling Twitter reading details. Came across a video of the bodies to include a child with their brains no longer intact.

farg this world

Saw that video as well. farging awful.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: MDS on May 08, 2023, 03:07:45 PM
anti black racism among hispanics and asians hasnt been much of a secret, but i guess the public at large is having difficulty grasping it. good thing the allen shooter posted a meme about it

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FvoMKaxWYAU8wUF?format=jpg&name=small)
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Munson on May 08, 2023, 05:28:45 PM
They also aren't realizing they're running right into the "race is a social construct" thing because, hey, Hispanic people have been considered "white" on and off throughout our history and many of them identify as white
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: General_Failure on May 08, 2023, 05:54:20 PM
Quislings aren't a new thing, especially for white supremacists.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Munson on May 08, 2023, 06:43:19 PM
https://twitter.com/michaelzlin/status/1655672553774657537 46&t=SMD_81TvVT-H5sNwmpVLIQ
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on May 08, 2023, 09:20:12 PM
Yeah he was a no doubter incel nazi loving motherfarger operating straight out of the Mass Shooting 101 manual.

He even staked out the mall weeks prior to make sure he went at the peak busy time on a Saturday.

And yet, despite having Elon's $44bn website broadcast them, the videos and photos of those poor kids and families laying there won't move the god damn gun control needle one inch.

Until the next one...sadly.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on June 29, 2023, 06:47:26 PM
Any MAGAt who champions more cops in schools to stop school shooters can eat shtein. That dude who failed to confront the Stoneman shooter in Florida was found not guilty today.

So do nothing and people dgaf
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: General_Failure on June 29, 2023, 07:02:54 PM
The courts decided a while ago that cops are not obligated to put themselves in danger.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Diomedes on June 29, 2023, 09:44:34 PM
Count me OUT of the people hating on that dude. Pretty complicated story. 
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on July 03, 2023, 11:45:11 PM
This time in Philly

https://twitter.com/ap/status/1676073249074040832 46&t=Uib2YOn6CJgx-z2RaE9o7Q
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: MDS on July 04, 2023, 12:28:31 AM
nobody cares about dead negroes in the hood...nobody cares about dead white kids in a classroom either but this wont make a dent
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on August 26, 2023, 09:38:14 PM
A racially motivated one in Jacksonville where black folks were targeted.

https://www.cnn.com/2023/08/26/us/jacksonville-florida-shooting-multiple-fatalities/index.html
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Diomedes on August 27, 2023, 07:21:29 AM
Is someone keeping score of all these?  I know there's a loco liberal once in a while, but my lord the conservatives love to kill people, don't they?
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on August 27, 2023, 10:44:31 AM
Yep.

Reading my NextDoor app and in between the HOA Karen's and the warning about every person who drives down a street or knocks on a door there's a wave of comments about how people should be armed or "if they knock on my door they'll see Mr Smith and Mr Wesson"

Oh and go read what Tennessee is doing tk juke the stats on mass shootings in their state. They're changing definitions of them to include any private school or house or worship to not be counted
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on August 28, 2023, 07:11:08 PM
The news showed the Jacksonville shooter and it was a fat young white kid who hated blacks. He unloaded 52 shots into a Kia parked at the front of the store and then went inside.

And now there's reportedly another active shooter on the UNC campus
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Diomedes on October 25, 2023, 09:25:27 PM
Got one in Lewiston, Maine.  At least 16 dead, suspect at large.

I don't think it was a stabbing.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on October 25, 2023, 09:34:30 PM
Sheesh.

50-60 wounded.

Thoughts and prayers!
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on October 25, 2023, 09:40:23 PM
https://www.cnn.com/2023/10/25/us/lewiston-maine-shooting/index.html

White dood
AR15
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: MDS on October 25, 2023, 10:36:35 PM
who cares
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on October 26, 2023, 02:57:45 PM
They catch the guy yet?

What another horrific ordeal that absolutely not a god damn thing will be done about it.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Diomedes on October 26, 2023, 05:23:35 PM
Nope.  He's still not been found.  Likely dead in the woods somewhere, like the dude here in MD that offed the judge who granted his wife custody of his children.  They found him dead by suicide.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: MDS on October 26, 2023, 07:08:13 PM
just another day in america
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Diomedes on October 27, 2023, 06:32:34 AM
We need to get serious about taking guns away from people.

That or the victims need to fight back and start shooting NRA members and lawmakers.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on October 27, 2023, 08:23:50 AM
I've wondered about that - lets say one of the "thoughts and prayers - guns aren't the problem" people has to deal with losing someone like so many people do now. How quickly would they flip their view? Or are they so morally and ethically bankrupt and blinded by the cult that they would still toe the line?
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Diomedes on October 27, 2023, 05:26:24 PM
Apparently the entire area around this shooting is still on "shelter in place" orders.

That's insane. 

Can the authorities actually enforce that?  What if I'm out of food?  What if I want to go for a ride? 

farg that shtein.  The dude is dead in the woods.  Or he's not.  But you're gonna shut down the entire towns of Lewiston (40k) and Portland (more)? 

Crazy.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Rome on October 27, 2023, 06:33:47 PM
Guns don't kill people.  Democrats are at fault.

- GOP
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on October 27, 2023, 11:02:22 PM
No shock - scumbag was found dead of a self inflicted gunshot.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Diomedes on October 28, 2023, 08:43:44 AM
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on October 27, 2023, 08:23:50 AMI've wondered about that - lets say one of the "thoughts and prayers - guns aren't the problem" people has to deal with losing someone like so many people do now. How quickly would they flip their view? Or are they so morally and ethically bankrupt and blinded by the cult that they would still toe the line?

If someone shot up my kids, what would I have to live for any longer?  Why wouldn't I just reset, retreat into a private campaign of retribution against the gun lobby?  I could take a couple years to plan, and let the gun lovers have a taste of the horror they are inflicting on America, just like this guy did, but instead of targeting random people, bring the fight home. 

I'm genuinely puzzled why we haven't seen someone take that kind of reaction.  Surely, with outrageous numbers of people who survived one of these atrocities, or lost someone, there are desperate wounded people with nothing better to do than strike back.

Why haven't they?  Does the FBI put every victim on a watch list, track their movements, etc?  Is the security for these gun pushers really so good that people are trying to get at them, and failing?  I find that hard to believe.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: General_Failure on October 28, 2023, 08:11:43 PM
Why would the FBI need to watch anyone when real patriot American citizens are more than willing to go harass them themselves for being a crisis actor?
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on October 28, 2023, 08:27:12 PM
Yeah those people don't believe shtein. Something can happen right in front of them and they deny it in some form or fashion.

But I agree with Dio too. I'm shocked that we haven't seen it happen either.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Eagaholic on October 29, 2023, 08:15:04 PM
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on October 27, 2023, 08:23:50 AMI've wondered about that - lets say one of the "thoughts and prayers - guns aren't the problem" people has to deal with losing someone like so many people do now. How quickly would they flip their view? Or are they so morally and ethically bankrupt and blinded by the cult that they would still toe the line?
I wonder if there has been a shift from the good old fashioned lie through their teeth corporate dirtbag types to a new wave of people who actually convince themselves of whatever stories suit their interests. I have no idea if this is true but I get the impression that a lot of these people believe themselves. Maybe a fake news kind of effect?
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on October 30, 2023, 08:30:22 AM
Definitely. Not only that but an overall lack of compassion. And a lot of that is tied to the political landscape over the last seven years. A certain orange crusted cretin made it seemingly ok in people's eyes to be unrepentant iceholes.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: General_Failure on October 30, 2023, 10:33:47 AM
The problem with pandering to the lowest common denominator is there's always someone willing to go so much lower than you. This is just the natural progression of what's been going on since LBJ.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Diomedes on November 22, 2023, 05:52:45 AM
I forgot this one even happened. 
Actually, no I didn't.  You have to know something to forget it.  This one didn't register any attention at all when it happened.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2023/11/21/louisville-shooter-connor-sturgeon-report/

Dude left a note explaining why he did it:  to prove how easy it is for someone to get a weapon and slaughter people.  Railed against the NRA, etc.  If only he had directed his rampage as well as his tirade against the gun lovers who insist on making mass killing weapons available so easily, rather than random people...
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on February 11, 2024, 04:48:57 PM
We got one here in HTown at Joel Osteen's Lakewood Church (one of those super churches - where the Rockets used to play)

Early reports are male and female shooters and the female is dead but male it at large
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Diomedes on February 11, 2024, 08:34:36 PM
Osteen assured everyone afterwards that "God is in control."

Thanks, Joel.
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Diomedes on March 16, 2024, 11:49:18 AM
"Police in Bucks County, Pa., told people to shelter in place Saturday morning after what a congressman called an "active shooter alert.""

guns for everyone working out great, unless you want to go get a bagel of a Saturday morning.....outside world currently Closed for gunfights
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: SD on March 16, 2024, 12:15:13 PM
My ring was non stop alerts this morning. Shooting was like 10 minutes from my house. Last update I heard guy carjacked someone and fled to Trenton

https://www.nbcphiladelphia.com/news/local/breaking-suspect-sought-multiple-killed-levittown-shooting/3805011/?amp=1
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Diomedes on March 17, 2024, 11:38:34 AM
homeless 26 year old killed his baby mama, stepmother, and minor sister, bludgeoned mother of his baby mama, carjacked a dude, was finally taken into custody after a standoff at home of other family members

AR something something don't call it an assault weapon muh rights to have personal nukes
Title: Re: The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread
Post by: Rome on March 18, 2024, 12:51:16 PM
Three separate shootings last night where my daughter lives in Jacksonville. 

Quite the delightful shteinhole of a country we have here.